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avbwhy #113780 is exist for more then two days?12:13
avba problem with usplash dependencies 12:13
avbusplash-theme-debian must be changed to usplash-theme-ubuntu12:13
avband the problem will be fixed12:13
avbor usplash-theme-ubuntu must provide usplash-theme12:14
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gnomefreakavb: it was reported 12 hours ago not 2 days ago from what LP says. everyone is at UDS so things may not get fixed right away.12:18
avbah, I see12:19
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j-dizzleinfinity2: poke... fix ktorrent pretty please?03:05
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_MMA_Hi all. Ubuntu Studio 7.04 has been released. http://ubuntustudio.org Thanx to everyone. :)03:31
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pittiGood morning08:41
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geserMorning pitti08:45
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pittihey geser!08:53
ion_Hi pitti08:53
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tepsipakkiwhat is the equivalent for "Depends: foo (= ${binary:Version})" for dpkg in dapper?08:57
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tepsipakkidpkg-deb complains that the version string is empty08:57
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geser(= ${Source-Version}) if I'm not mistaken09:00
crimsundapper's dpkg is older than 1.13.19, which is needed for ${binary:Version}.  ${Source-Version} AFAIK.09:00
tepsipakkiyeah, thanks.. I'll try that09:00
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Hobbseemorning all09:15
Mithrandirhiya Hobbsee 09:15
keescookmornin'09:15
Hobbsee:)09:16
ajmitchmorning 09:16
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pittikeescook: running 'bt' or 'bt full' in a built source tree does not show any source lines, only the initial 'breakpoint hit' or 'crashed' message09:22
pittikeescook: and I think it's good that way TBH; convoluting source and variable values would be too confusing09:22
pittikeescook: so I guess I'll spec it to just simply read it out from the source files manually09:23
keescookpitti: hmmm... I will try it again shortly09:23
infinitypitti: Does anyone hanging out there know why the buildd sequencer appears to be stopped?09:23
keescookhiya infinity09:23
pittiinfinity: hm, I didn't notice and didn't hear anything from Tollef/Colin/the other suspects09:24
pittiinfinity: but that might just be us being busy talking and not watching the archive at all09:24
pittiinfinity: I can poke cprov, he's sitting 2 m away09:24
Mithrandirpitti: please do, and point him to #soyuz09:24
infinityKay.  I'd restart it myself, but if there was a reason, and it's unsafe to restart it, I'd rather not.09:25
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pittikeescook: if you have a minute, maybe you can have a review of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApportBetterRetracing ?09:37
keescookpitti: sure, one sec09:37
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keescookpitti: add "useless for Mono" too, since you have Wine in there already?09:39
pittikeescook: I deliberately didn't, since we have a separate spec for that09:39
keescookah!  very good.  :)  Perhaps link to it?09:40
pittiright09:40
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keescookpitti: do you think adding a coredump checksum for corruption-detection is useful?  (it was in the gobby list of possible solutions for #3)09:42
infinitypitti: I realise this is a bit late in the game to suggest it, but has there been any interest in revisiting ReducingDuplication to try to clean up again?09:43
keescookpitti: rest looks good.09:44
pittikeescook: I couldn't see an immediate need for it09:44
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pittikeescook: that's why I didn't add it; it's one of the cases where I rather leave it out and add it as needed09:44
pittikeescook: mono spec linked09:44
keescooksounds good.  as long as the upload truncation can be "proven" as solved with the contentlength, I'd agree.  If that can't be shown, then I think the crc is useful.09:45
pittiinfinity: right, that's an ongoing effort; I do want to have a look at it again, for gutsy+1 at latest (since that's LTS)09:45
pittikeescook: right; thanks for revierw09:46
pittis/rw$/w/09:46
infinitypitti: Yeah, I'd like to clean a bit now, and then get fascist about it for gutsy+1.09:46
infinitypitti: Where "now" is "sometime in the next few weeks", obviously no big rush.09:46
pittiinfinity: sounds good09:46
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infinityj-dizzle: feisty-backports is all sorted and happy now.  Sorry about that.09:59
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lifelesshttp://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=288 <- ati + opensource ?10:12
Treenakssolution: http://tirdc.livejournal.com/3766.html10:13
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Saiedall, hi10:40
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Saiedhow can i disable boot messages?10:40
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Saiedhow can i disable boot messages?10:46
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ion_saied: Try #ubuntu for support.10:48
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dholbachkeescook: heya - where are you hanging out?11:11
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ajmitchdholbach: mdadm/lvm fun11:16
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keescookdholbach: hiya.  I'm in the mdadm/lvm session atm11:29
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Sp4rKyhi11:46
Sp4rKyis there something to add during build of iso to use gfxboot ?11:47
Sp4rKysomething other than conf files in isolinux/ ?11:47
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tepsipakkinew hal in feisty-backports is broken12:33
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tepsipakkioh12:36
tepsipakkihal-info didn't make it in our mirror, so maybe that's what broke it12:36
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tepsipakkinope, hal-info for feisty-backports isn't in the archives, since it's new12:42
tepsipakkicould an archive admin please accept hal-info for feisty?12:42
HobbseeMithrandir: ^12:44
Mithrandirtepsipakki: I voluntold kylem to do it.12:45
tepsipakkiMithrandir: thanks!12:45
HobbseeMithrandir: skipping work, again... :P12:45
StevenKHobbsee: No, "Delegation", an important part of work.12:45
MithrandirI'm such a slacker12:45
tepsipakki:)12:45
mjg59He's a manager now12:45
Mithrandirmjg59: I am?12:45
HobbseeStevenK: hah.  yes.12:46
StevenKmjg59: Have you bought him a tie?12:46
Mithrandiractually, this is so kyle gets to make mistakes when I'm here so I can whack him over the head if he tries to make the archive blow up12:46
Hobbseehehe12:46
Hobbseealways fun12:46
StevenKHeh12:46
StevenKMithrandir: Like a "Oh crap, I just managed to clean out dapper" ?12:48
StevenKActually, that would be fairly impressive.12:48
kylemtepsipakki, backport accepted.12:49
Mithrandirthat'd be bad, yes.12:49
tepsipakkikylem: rock12:51
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robertjon resume, my laptop shows a black background, the cursor is present, and the area where the cursor starts has some corrupted graphics, what package do I need to file the bug against?02:02
ScottKrobertj: #ubuntu-bugs is a probably a better channel to ask that question.02:02
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robertjthanks, done02:03
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Mithrandirdoko: is that ooo doesn't work correctly on gutsy know?02:18
Mithrandir/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/libspell680li.so: undefined symbol: _ZN8Hunspell5spellEPKc02:18
dokoMithrandir: yes, known02:18
Mithrandiris there a workaround02:18
Mithrandir?02:18
dokodon't upgrade libhunspell02:18
pochubug 11194002:19
ubotuLaunchpad bug 111940 in hunspell "libhunspell-1.1-0 1.1.5-6: Incompatible ABI change" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11194002:19
Mithrandiroh well, I could downgrade I guess.02:19
Mithrandirpochu: cheers02:19
pochuyw02:19
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ScottKMithrandir: Looks like the sparcdd that's running is actually getting stuff done now.  I can mark some bugs fix released.  Thanks for kicking/having them kicked.02:21
ScottKerr sparc buildd02:22
MithrandirScottK: yeah, I just prodded the right people; thanks for your persistency in telling me, I just haven't been attending to the buildds this week due to uds02:22
ScottKNP.  I certainly understand being distracted.02:22
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pygihi folks02:39
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asacMithrandir keescook mvo dholbach http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/funkymonkey.xpi ... please try and tell me if things work proper for you ... had to do some hacking in greasemonkey user script management dialog. Now it should be as easy as dropping global scripts to /usr/share/firefox/defaults/gm_scripts/03:36
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keescooknce03:37
keescooker... nice too03:37
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dholbachasac: works great03:39
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gumpaHowdy. I want to make a liveCD for collecting hardware info.04:51
gumpaUpon boot it should accept telnet, run lshal and Python scripts, be able to ftp .. not much else04:51
gumpaAny suggestions?04:51
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bluefoxicywtf is going on with launchpad06:21
bluefoxicyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/livecd-creator06:21
bluefoxicypeople are fiddling with the white boards for asinine purposes06:21
mjg59I suspect that this is the wrong place to ask06:23
bluefoxicymjg59:  where IS the right place to ask about random wiki/launchpad/etc vandalizing and such?06:26
mjg59Unsure. Not here.06:26
j-dizzlebluefoxicy: probably #launchpad06:28
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bddebianHeya06:42
ion_Hi06:43
bddebianHello ion_06:43
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gumpabluefoxicy: thanks for the LP link, doesn't appear that there's much interest in a liveCD tool06:52
gumpacan anyone comment on Reconstructor or Ubuntu Customization Kit ?06:52
bluefoxicygumpa:  I was more pointing out the whiteboard junk, people are changing it to draw smilies and say "my turn my turn eee!"06:56
bluefoxicyI don't know if they're screwing with other specs06:56
bluefoxicybut as mjg said, not here.06:56
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gumpabluefoxicy: but you _did_ provide the link germane to my query. thx for that :-] 06:58
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bluefoxicygumpa:  nods07:02
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Husiohello08:30
HusioI have a question about the pilot in macbook (intel 2.0)08:30
Husiowhat patch allows to use it?08:30
Husiocan't find any info how to make it works08:31
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StevenHarperUK_ Hi : I have just registered my lauchpad project https://launchpad.net/usb-adsl-modem-manager   I have a working application, but I need someone who's used to the processes in getting Ubuntu packages made (debian) and other processes to help me10:30
StevenHarperUK_Cany anyone help - or point me in the right direction10:30
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mc44StevenHarperUK_: #ubuntu-motu can help you with packaging, but a lot of the people are in spain at the development conference at the moment10:33
StevenHarperUK_do you know the steps - in order I should be doing things10:34
mc44well, making a package is a good first step :)10:34
StevenHarperUK_I have never done that before10:35
StevenHarperUK_Is there a WIki page?10:36
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mc44http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html10:37
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soundrayI reported a bug back in February (#84026). Additional information was requested. I supplied that, and after that nothing ever happened any more. "Importance" is still "undecided". Have I just wasted my time reporting the bug?10:56
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mc44soundray: there are 17594 undecided bugs in Ubuntu...11:03
soundraymc44: so the answer is yes...11:05
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mc44That wouldn't be my interpretation11:06
soundrayI would have thought that frequency scaling is important, especially on CPUs where the savings potential is so big.11:09
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pygihi G0SUB 11:13
pygiGman*11:13
Gmanhi11:13
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soundrayAnyway, thanks mc44 for the info. I'll be patient.11:14
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