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[12:13] <avb> why #113780 is exist for more then two days?
[12:13] <avb> a problem with usplash dependencies 
[12:13] <avb> usplash-theme-debian must be changed to usplash-theme-ubuntu
[12:13] <avb> and the problem will be fixed
[12:14] <avb> or usplash-theme-ubuntu must provide usplash-theme
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[12:18] <gnomefreak> avb: it was reported 12 hours ago not 2 days ago from what LP says. everyone is at UDS so things may not get fixed right away.
[12:19] <avb> ah, I see
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[03:05] <j-dizzle> infinity2: poke... fix ktorrent pretty please?
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[03:31] <_MMA_> Hi all. Ubuntu Studio 7.04 has been released. http://ubuntustudio.org Thanx to everyone. :)
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[08:41] <pitti> Good morning
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[08:45] <geser> Morning pitti
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[08:53] <pitti> hey geser!
[08:53] <ion_> Hi pitti
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[08:57] <tepsipakki> what is the equivalent for "Depends: foo (= ${binary:Version})" for dpkg in dapper?
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[08:57] <tepsipakki> dpkg-deb complains that the version string is empty
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[09:00] <geser> (= ${Source-Version}) if I'm not mistaken
[09:00] <crimsun> dapper's dpkg is older than 1.13.19, which is needed for ${binary:Version}.  ${Source-Version} AFAIK.
[09:00] <tepsipakki> yeah, thanks.. I'll try that
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[09:15] <Hobbsee> morning all
[09:15] <Mithrandir> hiya Hobbsee 
[09:15] <keescook> mornin'
[09:16] <Hobbsee> :)
[09:16] <ajmitch> morning 
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[09:22] <pitti> keescook: running 'bt' or 'bt full' in a built source tree does not show any source lines, only the initial 'breakpoint hit' or 'crashed' message
[09:22] <pitti> keescook: and I think it's good that way TBH; convoluting source and variable values would be too confusing
[09:23] <pitti> keescook: so I guess I'll spec it to just simply read it out from the source files manually
[09:23] <keescook> pitti: hmmm... I will try it again shortly
[09:23] <infinity> pitti: Does anyone hanging out there know why the buildd sequencer appears to be stopped?
[09:23] <keescook> hiya infinity
[09:24] <pitti> infinity: hm, I didn't notice and didn't hear anything from Tollef/Colin/the other suspects
[09:24] <pitti> infinity: but that might just be us being busy talking and not watching the archive at all
[09:24] <pitti> infinity: I can poke cprov, he's sitting 2 m away
[09:24] <Mithrandir> pitti: please do, and point him to #soyuz
[09:25] <infinity> Kay.  I'd restart it myself, but if there was a reason, and it's unsafe to restart it, I'd rather not.
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[09:37] <pitti> keescook: if you have a minute, maybe you can have a review of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApportBetterRetracing ?
[09:37] <keescook> pitti: sure, one sec
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[09:39] <keescook> pitti: add "useless for Mono" too, since you have Wine in there already?
[09:39] <pitti> keescook: I deliberately didn't, since we have a separate spec for that
[09:40] <keescook> ah!  very good.  :)  Perhaps link to it?
[09:40] <pitti> right
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[09:42] <keescook> pitti: do you think adding a coredump checksum for corruption-detection is useful?  (it was in the gobby list of possible solutions for #3)
[09:43] <infinity> pitti: I realise this is a bit late in the game to suggest it, but has there been any interest in revisiting ReducingDuplication to try to clean up again?
[09:44] <keescook> pitti: rest looks good.
[09:44] <pitti> keescook: I couldn't see an immediate need for it
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[09:44] <pitti> keescook: that's why I didn't add it; it's one of the cases where I rather leave it out and add it as needed
[09:44] <pitti> keescook: mono spec linked
[09:45] <keescook> sounds good.  as long as the upload truncation can be "proven" as solved with the contentlength, I'd agree.  If that can't be shown, then I think the crc is useful.
[09:45] <pitti> infinity: right, that's an ongoing effort; I do want to have a look at it again, for gutsy+1 at latest (since that's LTS)
[09:46] <pitti> keescook: right; thanks for revierw
[09:46] <pitti> s/rw$/w/
[09:46] <infinity> pitti: Yeah, I'd like to clean a bit now, and then get fascist about it for gutsy+1.
[09:46] <infinity> pitti: Where "now" is "sometime in the next few weeks", obviously no big rush.
[09:46] <pitti> infinity: sounds good
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[09:59] <infinity> j-dizzle: feisty-backports is all sorted and happy now.  Sorry about that.
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[10:12] <lifeless> http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=288 <- ati + opensource ?
[10:13] <Treenaks> solution: http://tirdc.livejournal.com/3766.html
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[10:40] <Saied> all, hi
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[10:40] <Saied> how can i disable boot messages?
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[10:46] <Saied> how can i disable boot messages?
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[10:48] <ion_> saied: Try #ubuntu for support.
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[11:11] <dholbach> keescook: heya - where are you hanging out?
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[11:16] <ajmitch> dholbach: mdadm/lvm fun
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[11:29] <keescook> dholbach: hiya.  I'm in the mdadm/lvm session atm
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[11:46] <Sp4rKy> hi
[11:47] <Sp4rKy> is there something to add during build of iso to use gfxboot ?
[11:47] <Sp4rKy> something other than conf files in isolinux/ ?
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[12:33] <tepsipakki> new hal in feisty-backports is broken
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[12:36] <tepsipakki> oh
[12:36] <tepsipakki> hal-info didn't make it in our mirror, so maybe that's what broke it
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[12:42] <tepsipakki> nope, hal-info for feisty-backports isn't in the archives, since it's new
[12:42] <tepsipakki> could an archive admin please accept hal-info for feisty?
[12:44] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: ^
[12:45] <Mithrandir> tepsipakki: I voluntold kylem to do it.
[12:45] <tepsipakki> Mithrandir: thanks!
[12:45] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: skipping work, again... :P
[12:45] <StevenK> Hobbsee: No, "Delegation", an important part of work.
[12:45] <Mithrandir> I'm such a slacker
[12:45] <tepsipakki> :)
[12:45] <mjg59> He's a manager now
[12:45] <Mithrandir> mjg59: I am?
[12:46] <Hobbsee> StevenK: hah.  yes.
[12:46] <StevenK> mjg59: Have you bought him a tie?
[12:46] <Mithrandir> actually, this is so kyle gets to make mistakes when I'm here so I can whack him over the head if he tries to make the archive blow up
[12:46] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:46] <Hobbsee> always fun
[12:46] <StevenK> Heh
[12:48] <StevenK> Mithrandir: Like a "Oh crap, I just managed to clean out dapper" ?
[12:48] <StevenK> Actually, that would be fairly impressive.
[12:49] <kylem> tepsipakki, backport accepted.
[12:49] <Mithrandir> that'd be bad, yes.
[12:51] <tepsipakki> kylem: rock
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[02:02] <robertj> on resume, my laptop shows a black background, the cursor is present, and the area where the cursor starts has some corrupted graphics, what package do I need to file the bug against?
[02:02] <ScottK> robertj: #ubuntu-bugs is a probably a better channel to ask that question.
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[02:03] <robertj> thanks, done
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[02:18] <Mithrandir> doko: is that ooo doesn't work correctly on gutsy know?
[02:18] <Mithrandir> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/libspell680li.so: undefined symbol: _ZN8Hunspell5spellEPKc
[02:18] <doko> Mithrandir: yes, known
[02:18] <Mithrandir> is there a workaround
[02:18] <Mithrandir> ?
[02:18] <doko> don't upgrade libhunspell
[02:19] <pochu> bug 111940
[02:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111940 in hunspell "libhunspell-1.1-0 1.1.5-6: Incompatible ABI change" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111940
[02:19] <Mithrandir> oh well, I could downgrade I guess.
[02:19] <Mithrandir> pochu: cheers
[02:19] <pochu> yw
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[02:21] <ScottK> Mithrandir: Looks like the sparcdd that's running is actually getting stuff done now.  I can mark some bugs fix released.  Thanks for kicking/having them kicked.
[02:22] <ScottK> err sparc buildd
[02:22] <Mithrandir> ScottK: yeah, I just prodded the right people; thanks for your persistency in telling me, I just haven't been attending to the buildds this week due to uds
[02:22] <ScottK> NP.  I certainly understand being distracted.
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[02:39] <pygi> hi folks
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[03:36] <asac> Mithrandir keescook mvo dholbach http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/funkymonkey.xpi ... please try and tell me if things work proper for you ... had to do some hacking in greasemonkey user script management dialog. Now it should be as easy as dropping global scripts to /usr/share/firefox/defaults/gm_scripts/
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[03:37] <keescook> nce
[03:37] <keescook> er... nice too
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[03:39] <dholbach> asac: works great
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[04:51] <gumpa> Howdy. I want to make a liveCD for collecting hardware info.
[04:51] <gumpa> Upon boot it should accept telnet, run lshal and Python scripts, be able to ftp .. not much else
[04:51] <gumpa> Any suggestions?
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[06:21] <bluefoxicy> wtf is going on with launchpad
[06:21] <bluefoxicy> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/livecd-creator
[06:21] <bluefoxicy> people are fiddling with the white boards for asinine purposes
[06:23] <mjg59> I suspect that this is the wrong place to ask
[06:26] <bluefoxicy> mjg59:  where IS the right place to ask about random wiki/launchpad/etc vandalizing and such?
[06:26] <mjg59> Unsure. Not here.
[06:28] <j-dizzle> bluefoxicy: probably #launchpad
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[06:42] <bddebian> Heya
[06:43] <ion_> Hi
[06:43] <bddebian> Hello ion_
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[06:52] <gumpa> bluefoxicy: thanks for the LP link, doesn't appear that there's much interest in a liveCD tool
[06:52] <gumpa> can anyone comment on Reconstructor or Ubuntu Customization Kit ?
[06:56] <bluefoxicy> gumpa:  I was more pointing out the whiteboard junk, people are changing it to draw smilies and say "my turn my turn eee!"
[06:56] <bluefoxicy> I don't know if they're screwing with other specs
[06:56] <bluefoxicy> but as mjg said, not here.
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[06:58] <gumpa> bluefoxicy: but you _did_ provide the link germane to my query. thx for that :-] 
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[07:02] <bluefoxicy> gumpa:  nods
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[08:30] <Husio> hello
[08:30] <Husio> I have a question about the pilot in macbook (intel 2.0)
[08:30] <Husio> what patch allows to use it?
[08:31] <Husio> can't find any info how to make it works
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[10:30] <StevenHarperUK_>  Hi : I have just registered my lauchpad project https://launchpad.net/usb-adsl-modem-manager   I have a working application, but I need someone who's used to the processes in getting Ubuntu packages made (debian) and other processes to help me
[10:30] <StevenHarperUK_> Cany anyone help - or point me in the right direction
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[10:33] <mc44> StevenHarperUK_: #ubuntu-motu can help you with packaging, but a lot of the people are in spain at the development conference at the moment
[10:34] <StevenHarperUK_> do you know the steps - in order I should be doing things
[10:34] <mc44> well, making a package is a good first step :)
[10:35] <StevenHarperUK_> I have never done that before
[10:36] <StevenHarperUK_> Is there a WIki page?
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[10:37] <mc44> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
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[10:56] <soundray> I reported a bug back in February (#84026). Additional information was requested. I supplied that, and after that nothing ever happened any more. "Importance" is still "undecided". Have I just wasted my time reporting the bug?
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[11:03] <mc44> soundray: there are 17594 undecided bugs in Ubuntu...
[11:05] <soundray> mc44: so the answer is yes...
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[11:06] <mc44> That wouldn't be my interpretation
[11:09] <soundray> I would have thought that frequency scaling is important, especially on CPUs where the savings potential is so big.
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[11:13] <pygi> hi G0SUB 
[11:13] <pygi> Gman*
[11:13] <Gman> hi
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[11:14] <soundray> Anyway, thanks mc44 for the info. I'll be patient.
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