=== _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-019-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === evand [n=evand@ubuntu/member/evand] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [PUPPETS] Gonzo [n=gonzo@80.69.47.16] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [PUPPETS] Gonzo [n=gonzo@80.69.47.16] has joined #ubuntu-motu === philwyett_ [n=philip@87.81.146.45] has joined #ubuntu-motu === concept10_ [n=concept1@adsl-70-251-0-137.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] StevenK: did you check out krename merge the othernight? bug 112528 [12:55] Launchpad bug 112528 in krename "[Gutsy Merge] krename_3.0.14-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112528 [12:55] getting that merged will close 2 bugs for krename [12:55] brb [12:57] I'd like to get set up with a mentor. [12:57] What's the best way? === crimsun_ [i=crimsun@nat/redhat/x-e46d6b4d7f3c0637] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Acksys [n=acksys@cpe-024-088-056-038.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun__ [i=crimsun@nat/redhat/x-76e70ccd9c552b69] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml_ [n=jml@121.44.221.65] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schultmc [n=schultmc@c-68-58-138-203.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec [n=nwheeler@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #ubuntu-motu === etank [n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] what is the process of getting teamed with a mentor? [01:54] etank: talk to the person offering the mentoring maybe. i guess it depends on what you want mentoring in and who is willing to help in that [01:55] gnomefreak: ok. === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-019-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] oh damn it :/ [02:20] keep forgetting to submit my patches :) [02:20] "send patches or stfu" :D === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [n=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=Chris_@129.94.176.134] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] Hey MOTUs and MOTU hopefuls. [02:48] hi Dr. Nick! [02:48] Hey TheMuso [02:49] I'm just being random === harrisony [n=harrison@unaffiliated/harrisony] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nxvl [n=nxvl@barovia.aureal.com.pe] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] is feisty-backport not opened yet? [03:02] hi [03:03] i want to help, and be part of the MOTU [03:03] i have read the web [03:03] nxvl: Excellent! How do you want to help? [03:03] and write to sistpoty but i don't have any answer yet === RAOF thinks that reading the interweb must have taken some time :) === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-019-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] If I look in launchpad it seems like ktorrent have been backported to feisty, but there is nothing in the archives. [03:04] RAOF: i will like to help with ruby, wich is the lenguage with i feel more comfortable [03:04] paran: it's open... I'm on break while exam season's here.... === jwhitlark [n=jwhitlar@66-240-26-40.isp.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] paran: and infinity said he'd fix the backports build problem for ktorrent..... [03:04] "this morning" === jwhitlark [n=jwhitlar@66-240-26-40.isp.comcastbusiness.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:04] where this morning was 3 days ago [03:04] RAOF: and as i read it seems to need lot of help [03:04] so umm.... yeah..... === j-dizzle walks over to -devel.... [03:05] nxvl: And you want to help by... fixing bugs in ruby packages? Packaging new ruby programs? [03:05] j-dizzle: lol [03:05] RAOF: yes, packaging, reporting bugs, maybe fixing [03:05] im not a ruby expert [03:05] but i will learn [03:06] paran: all the devs are at their conference thing, so it's been an odd week :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] Right, so reporting bugs you can do right now, to launchpad.net :) [03:06] not to mention I'm supposed to be learning how curl and stokes theorem works.... [03:06] RAOF: that i know ;) [03:06] Heya gang [03:07] j-dizzle: there is no rush for me, I have backported it myself with some extra patches from SVN. was only wondering why it wasn't in archives [03:07] hey bddebian [03:07] Hello RAOF [03:07] RAOF: but i want to make packages, and try to fix bugs [03:07] paran: ok; "mystery buildd magic" I guess is the official explanation. [03:07] paran: I have some personal conspiracy theories... but I'd rather not share them :D [03:07] haha [03:07] nxvl: Ok. Have you read the packaging guide? That's how I learnt to build debian/ubuntu packages. [03:08] nxvl, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Ruby sounds good for you :) [03:08] j-dizzle: exam periods is a rather good excuse for you not working [03:08] j-dizzle: although I seem to spend _more_ time on things unrelated to studies when I have those.. :) [03:08] paran: I'm trying to prevent the same from ahppening here :D [03:09] I'm pretty sure I bombed my calc test this morning :) [03:09] I'm awaiting the "you've failed, you miserable piece of garbage" e-mail... :D [03:09] calc as in calculus? [03:09] RAOF: im reading [03:09] yep [03:09] 18.02, multivariable calc [03:09] harrisony: thnx [03:10] nxvl, can i have a link to your launchpad profile? === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] harrisony: https://launchpad.net/~nvalcarcel [03:12] harrisony: i haven't use it very much [03:12] nxvl, have you been told about REVU? [03:12] j-dizzle: ah, I know that feeling. I also have a failed multivar course that I will pass any year now [03:13] harrisony: nop [03:13] well... 2 weeks left to go [03:13] then my first term at the suicide mansion will come to an end :) [03:13] !revu > nxvl [03:13] the bot will pm you [03:16] im reading [03:16] well, first i need to know how to make packages [03:16] :D [03:20] yep also check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek have a look at the package sessions and MOTU related sessions logs as they are quite good [03:21] !packagingguide > nxvl === CarlF1 [n=carl@dsl081-148-056.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] <_MMA_> Hi all. Ubuntu Studio 7.04 has been released. http://ubuntustudio.org Thanx to everyone. :) [03:31] Is it just me or do we have people coming out of the woodwork lately? :) [03:32] What is the best way to get hooked up with a mentor? [03:34] Acksys: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentors [03:35] Do I need to pick one that reflects the area in which I'd like to contribute? Because I'm not sure about that yet. [03:35] Nope. In fact you don't "have" to have one. You are welcome to ask questions here. === RAOF hasn't had one. [03:36] Well, I have some programming experience, but no experience in a real development environment. [03:36] RAOF: And it shows. ;-P [03:36] So I'm at somewhat of a loss about where to begin. [03:36] ubuntustudio has a nice looking website [03:36] RAOF: j/k [03:36] bddebian: :P [03:36] Acksys: Do you have any specific areas of interest? [03:36] bddebian: Only in stupid things like assigning bugs to u-u-s & u-m-s [03:37] <_MMA_> minghua: Thanx [03:37] My major is graphic communications.. that's a print management major, so I'm interested in graphics [03:37] and music as well === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-024-042.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:38] Acksys: Look for some bugs in music or graphics packages and fix them. :-) [03:39] bddebian: You make it sound easy. [03:39] I'll give it a shot. [03:39] <_MMA_> ;) [03:40] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize is a list of bugs marked as "bitesized" ie: should be quick/easy to fix. [03:40] ah, ok [03:41] It might be good to start there, since most of the work involved in fixing those (should) be in the learning of the various processes :) [03:42] RAOF: That looks like a good place to start, thanks for the info. [03:43] i have send mi first patch [03:43] :D === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] um, so the only way to do a desktop install via the desktop feisty iso is to boot into a full desktop? [03:58] and double click on the "install" icon [03:58] chillywilly: check out alternative install CD [03:58] it's just kinda weird if you ask me [03:59] chillywilly: Oh hush up and go back to your rbuild or whatever the fsck it's called. ;-P [03:59] I hadn't downloaded and burnt that one [04:00] anaconda is a nice installer and customizable via python :) [04:00] chillywilly: If you *really* want, you can manually partition and debootstrap using the pool directory on the regular CD, but it won't be very friendly. [04:00] anaconda is used by fedora === micahcowan [n=micahcow@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] but no I am building a distro using rPath linux appliance platform for the record ;P === Spec [n=nwheeler@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly slaps bddebian w/ a large Halibut === nmorrison [n=a@201-25-239-17.bnut3702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:16] <_MMA_> chillywilly: Why aren't you on: #rpath #rpath-support #foresight or #conary. Those are the places you should ask. [04:17] I am on #conary [04:17] ask what? [04:18] I didn't ask anything here :)\ === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === concept10 [n=concept1@adsl-70-251-0-137.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.172.173] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jikanter@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-000-042.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-000-207.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matid [n=matid@195.116.35.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mattva01 [n=matthew@c-69-143-121-184.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === IanC [n=IanC@WNPP-p-203-54-28-34.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === concept10 [n=concept1@adsl-70-251-0-137.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Showering] === tudenbart [n=willi@xdsl-213-196-243-6.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aplg [n=me@N849P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tudenbart is now known as dothebart === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:13] Could someone please advise me as to how to automatically generate -dbgsym packages with sbuild? [05:14] persia: the dh_strip(1) man page (assuming you have a debhelper >= 5) [05:15] minghua: Thanks. Now to complicate things, I need to override for CDBS :) === tmr0 [n=tmr0@71-208-74-89.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] minghua: Thanks a lot. You've pointed me in the right direction. I just need to install pkg-create-dbgsym in the chroot. [05:19] minghua: will you merge scim into gutsy? [05:20] freeflying: not now, don't have time [05:20] persia: Hmm, I didn't know about pkg-create-dbgsym. Is that a package name? [05:20] minghua: ok, I've done [05:21] freeflying: sure, thanks [05:21] It's what the buildds use to automatically create the foo-dbgsym packages for everything, right? [05:21] (The package, I mean) [05:21] minghua: Yep. It diverts dh_strip to always generate -dbgsym packages. Handy for local testing. === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:22] imbrandon: ping === matid [n=matid@195.116.35.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:32] persia: I see. I also found out it's an Ubuntu-only package. No wonder I haven't heard of it before. [05:33] minghua: I think it's fairly new too (perhaps six months old, or so?) === rollerskatejamms [n=rollersk@pool-71-249-99-9.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] persia: launchpad says it has existed since edgy [05:35] 2006-07-04 first upload, acutally [05:35] so yes, fairly new [05:36] minghua: Ah - almost a year old. My apologies for misremembering. [05:37] persia: did you get a response on where to file a bug on the ubuntu web site? === Hanusz_Leszek [n=Hanusz_L@112.200-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] dabaR: For the ubuntu website, I have an answer, but I haven't really followed up on where to file a bug about the behaviour of patches.ubuntu.com (which might be Soyuz? I'm not sure). [05:39] persia: I would personally file it against the ubuntu web site, but you're right, that may be wrong. [05:42] dabaR: Just yesterday I had what I thought was a Malone bug turn out to be a duplicate of a Soyuz bug, so I want to avoid causing more extra work for the triagers. It's only wishlist anyway (preserve last three ubuntu patches, for convenience of packages.qa.debian.org, instead of only the lastest patch; alternately, provide a symlink "latest" in each directory for link convenience). === dabaR [n=dabaR@wnpgmb09dc1-93-248.dynamic.mts.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === dabaR [n=dabaR@wnpgmb09dc1-93-248.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] sharms: Do you know that both the Archive and the About links on your blog are broken? === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-72-133-223-147.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-72-133-223-147.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Admiral_Chicago [n=Admiral_@ubuntu/member/admiral-chicago] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hanusz_Leszek [n=Hanusz_L@112.200-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:57] nixternal: Hrm? What about krename? [06:58] just wondering if you had looked at it for the merge previously? I think last time talking about getting it into Debian threw it off [06:58] I still haven't received contact back from the maintainer [06:58] How long has it been? === nixternal checks [06:59] Saturday [06:59] Hrm. I'd give it a little longer. === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan_ [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi01_@gw1.panoulu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === user_ [n=user@c-76-111-84-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === user_ [n=user@c-76-111-84-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ceros [n=user@c-76-111-84-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:09] i'm trying to upload my packages again [08:09] dput -f isn't working for me [08:10] You've changed ~/dput.conf so that revu is the default server? [08:10] yes [08:12] And you've added yourself to the revu team, and the revu keyring has been sync'd? [08:12] StevenK: Thank you. === bersace [n=bersace@81.185.38.57] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:13] i don't know if the keyring has been synced [08:14] How long ago did you add yourself to the team? [08:14] ceros: As far as I know, last sync was about 18 hours ago. [08:14] about 2 or 3 days ago [08:16] when something has a Replaces: foo [08:16] And what exactly isn't working/what errors are given? [08:16] and I try to install a .deb and it goes "Cannot satisfy dependency: foo" [08:16] what does that mean? [08:16] Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of sauerbraten_0.0.20070413-0ubuntu1.dsc [08:17] assuming I have the first thing installed already. [08:17] Does it mean the dependency checking code is horribly broken? [08:17] i'm trying to upload again since my last attempt errored out [08:17] when it was about to upload the changes file [08:17] ceros: It's possible that you've got some files from your previous attempt blocking the new files. [08:18] i can't force it to upload again? [08:18] No, you need to prod a REVU admin. [08:18] Who can look at incoming, and delete stuff or whatever [08:20] bluefoxicy: Replaces: means that the package is allowed to share filenames with the replaced package. It should generally only be used where multiple binaries are built from the same source, and some files moved, or there is a transition (in which case it should Conflicts: as well). For either case, it may well depend on some version of the replaced pacakge to ensure the user is never without the affected file. [08:21] I forget who the actual admins are, though. crimsun is, I think. [08:22] bluefoxicy: do you have a versioned Replaces? [08:22] ceros: Bah, silly me. wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [08:24] ceros: that page says admins are siretart, sistpoty, ajmitch, raphink. [08:24] ok [08:24] minghua: no, it just seems gdebi doesn't like libusplash-dev instead of usplash-dev [08:24] RAOF, you live in australia? [08:24] harrisony: Yup, Sydney. [08:24] minghua: but libusplash-dev Replaces usplash-dev [08:24] it won't satisfy dependencies though. [08:25] RAOF, how come i dont see you in #ubuntu-au , what suburb in sydney? [08:25] bluefoxicy: If they were the same, libusplash-dev would need to Provides: usplash-dev. Wait a while, and it will become more stable. === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:26] harrisony: Because if I joined every relevant IRC channel, I wouldn't get even what little work I do get done done :) [08:26] haha [08:29] bluefoxicy: that's correct behavior [08:29] bluefoxicy: Replaces has nothing to do with satisfying dependency, it's Provides' job. [08:31] ok [08:31] then the other package is broken [08:32] okay, next time I should read all conversations before repeating what persia said... [08:32] minghua: No, your phrasing is easier to understand :) === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi01_@gw1.panoulu.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia resolves to avoid scim & CJK bugs whilst minghua is actively triaging [08:47] persia: :-) [08:47] not exactly all CJK bugs === elkbuntu [i=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] I'm just subscribed to bugmail of all scim related packages, and triage them on a best-of-effort basis === concept10 [n=concept1@adsl-70-251-0-137.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:48] minghua: No, but I'll at least concentrate on fixes, rather than grabbing easy "gutsy isn't ready yet" bugs :) [08:48] persia: yeah, sounds a good idea [08:49] persia: you can spend you time working on the code, and let me do the commenting work :-) [08:49] minghua: :) [08:49] persia: as I don't have a gutsy system right now, doing really packaging is a little problematic [08:49] minghua: vm? chroot? [08:50] chroot is not exactly convenient for testing input method stuff [08:50] it usually requires a working X [08:51] as for VM, I've never played with one [08:51] I've recently set up a gusty VM with KVM, that was pretty easy. [08:51] I suppose I can update my feisty pbuilder chroot and do some test building stuff [08:52] but I only want to upload stuff I'm very confident of this way if that's all my testing [08:53] minghua: For chroot, run the X server on a different vterm. Of course, when gutsy crashes, feisty might :). For VM, try vmware-player and http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/ubuntu.html. There's an ubuntu.org link too, but I can't find it right now. [08:53] my problem is, trying to keep an up-to-date development system with both GNOME and KDE installed is a bit taxing to my DSL line [08:54] minghua: get a better internet connection :) === doko [i=doko@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-4789bffca399b72e] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:54] persia: my main system is sid, not feisty :-) [08:54] minghua: In that case, you'd do better to wait until later. [08:54] yeah I know how to set a chroot with X [08:54] minghua: sid? My sid VM is less stable than my gutsy VM, but perhaps that's just me. [08:55] but things are always a bit iffy and I don't want to mess with my good sid system [08:55] I think it depends on what "stable" means === Burgundavia [i=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:56] it's our Burger King! :) [08:56] I am quite confident on the kernel and basic stuff in sid [08:56] although I've been experiencing an OO.o bug and a video driver bug recently [08:56] minghua: Stability is king. That's why I like using VMs, but I don't know that vmware-player works on sid. In reference to "stable": I am currently les surprised by changes to gutsy than to sid. I expect this to change next week, after UDS. [08:56] persia: kvm should work on sid [08:57] kvm [08:57] persia: yeah, sid is rather turbulent right now [08:57] Treenaks: Doesn't kvm have processor requirements? === minghua needs to find time to play with VM stuff [08:57] persia: oh... yeah.. === RAOF needs to chase down why kvm doesn't boot properly all the time [08:57] persia: it needs intel vt or amd-v [08:57] Surely everyone has a <1 yr old Intel or AMD chip :P [08:58] RAOF: ;) [08:58] Treenaks: apparently not a choice for my AMD K6 CPU then :-) [08:58] RAOF: No. My main computers are XScale 624 and Athlon X2 4400+. [08:58] Old school! [08:58] persia: The X2 supports kvm, doesn't it? [08:58] minghua: xen? [08:58] RAOF: Not the first batch off the ship. A newer one might. [08:58] maybe vserver, I think [08:59] or vmware stuff [08:59] although my priority is taking care of my Debian package now [09:00] so sid system is good enough :-P === EtienneG [i=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [i=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [i=ach@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-39717f1f0e69595f] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jacquesmerde [n=michael@220-253-28-172.VIC.netspace.net.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ogra [i=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Prezu [i=patryk@dug.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-7-144.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [i=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [i=tonio@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-ed909365365afd58] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:16] morning [09:16] morning ajmitch === lfittl [i=lfittl@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-6cf6fdb6badbeb8e] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia_ [i=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:22] /lastlog sorsis === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [i=daniel@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-2a65552f21d1fe71] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [i=tonio@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-1566b93b7a560466] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp36-84.lns3.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-185-45.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-12-164.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dharrigan [n=dharriga@82-71-62-76.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:58] hi all === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@78-0-136-101.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C1A48C.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:20] If I upload a foo-1.2-0ubuntu1 revision, and Debian later publishes a foo1.2-1 version, is a sync possible so long as the same orig.tar.gz is in use? [10:21] yes. [10:21] crimsun: Thanks. [10:22] cf. galago-python, galago-gtk-python recently (this devel cycle). [10:22] err, was that versioning you used intentional? [10:23] (I presumed you meant foo_1.2-0ubuntu1 and foo_1.2-1) [10:23] crimsun: No, there was a typo - it should have been as you typed. I somehow managed to commit my comment whilst still composing :) [10:24] ah, I've been a victim of that, too. [10:26] persia: did you really mean foo-1.2 and foo1.2? [10:26] persia: i.e., the difference of a hyphen in the package name? [10:26] minghua: Not at all. I really meant foo_1.2-0ubuntu1 and foo_1.2-1 [10:28] crimsun: arounds [10:28] freeflying: hi [10:28] crimsun: would you likde sponsor uplad [10:29] freeflying: sure, url? [10:29] crimsun: a momnet plz [10:31] crimsun: or I mail u [10:31] freeflying: I'm on a very slow connection now, so a URL is probably best === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@cs27009116.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:33] crimsun: http://211.147.215.100:~/freeflying/scim/scim_1.4.6-1ubuntu1.dsc [10:34] crimsun: http://211.147.215.100~/freeflying/scim/scim_1.4.6-1ubuntu1.dsc [10:35] crimsun: can you access to it === gizmo [n=gizmo@87.139.112.143] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia_ [i=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:47] freeflying: testing === Tonio_ [i=tonio@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-26518038a4e26db9] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:47] freeflying: yes [10:48] crimsun: all others package has build-dep on it need rebuild against it, or they can not work === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:49] freeflying: ok, can you link me to the diff.gz? [10:50] crimsun: http://211.147.215.100~/freeflying/scim/scim_1.4.6-1ubuntu1.diff.gz [10:50] freeflying: did you work with minghua on this merge? [10:51] crimsun: minghua said he hasn't time now for merge, so I did [10:51] freeflying: ok. And you've tested it? [10:51] crimsun: yeah, he asked earlier today, I told him to go ahead [10:51] crimsun: sure, I'm using it now [10:51] minghua: ok. [10:51] freeflying: thanks. [10:52] all right, grabbing orig.tar.gz [10:52] debian's powerpc builld dosen't work now, I can not close the bug of skim now [10:56] err, the previous Ubuntu changelog entries are missing from debian/changelog === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:58] c [10:58] ugh [10:58] evening folks. [10:58] freeflying: would you readd the missing previous Ubuntu changelog entries, please? [10:58] hi TheMuso [10:59] crimsun: ok [11:01] good evening TheMuso. === elkbuntu pokes ajmitch [11:05] oi you. who keeps signing me up for stuff === bashelier [n=bashelie@gov91-1-82-234-91-6.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:06] I hear a certain Melissa would like to join the ubuntu-audio LP team... [11:06] lp? === elkbuntu thwacks crimsun [11:06] jmg: Launchpad [11:06] notice there is a melissa at google === jmg had an ex melissa [11:07] all the same :) [11:07] I was referring to "elkbuntu" Melissa [11:07] elkbuntu: greetings [11:08] hi jmg === pochu [n=emilio@10.Red-83-59-168.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] crimsun, i'm thinking it's mr mitchell [11:09] hmm! [11:09] crimsun, i somehow was signed up to a motu session the first day [11:09] crimsun, now this [11:10] and goodness knows how many else i havent noticed through the week [11:10] crimsun: done [11:11] freeflying: new URLs? [11:11] crimsun: same as above [11:13] Is it a Debian bug is a Build-Depends is not specified that causes a build failure for Ubuntu (where the Debian package built successfully)? [11:13] persia: Curious. Which package, and which package is missing? [11:14] StevenK: aqsis and libtiff (or, probably, really libtiffxx0). [11:14] elkbuntu: yes? [11:15] Perhaps one of the Build-Depends in Debian pulls in the tiff libraries? [11:15] And doesn't on Ubuntu. [11:15] elkbuntu: I told you I don't subscribe you to specs === persia goes to investigate again - perhaps more is needed [11:15] persia: I saw your removal bug, and dealt with it. [11:15] ajmitch, then wtf is happening? you and hobbsee were plotting evil things before we came here : [11:15] I'm evil, not mean [11:16] ajmitch, ah, so it must be hobbsee then [11:16] is she in the same session as you at the moment? [11:16] nope [11:16] StevenK: For wstools? Thanks. Only 5 packages to go :) [11:16] Heh [11:16] freeflying: uploaded. [11:16] crimsun: thanks [11:17] hmm, i wonder where she is then [11:17] well I'm in a mdadm/lvm/evms session [11:17] which I doubt she's interested in === pochu [n=emilio@10.Red-83-59-168.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:19] persia: according to aqsis's debian build log (http://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=aqsis), Debian uses libtiffxx0c2 [11:20] I see no schedule for today [11:20] TheMuso: It's there, just not linked to. [11:20] minghua: Ubuntu does as well - I just saw "TIFF C++ bindings" when first commenting. [11:20] gotcha [11:20] TheMuso: You have no idea how much self-control that took. :-P [11:22] persia: okay. in Debian libtiffxx0c2 is pulled in by libtiff4-dev [11:22] early finish today [11:22] There's a big dinner on, isn't there? [11:23] StevenK: yep, around 7:30 tonight === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-120-243-30.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [i=ach@conference/ubuntu-developer-summit/x-8dc34e2ff232c5d0] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:26] minghua: In Ubuntu as well. [11:26] aka the big ole dinner in which everyone eats way too much and gets drunk [11:26] and then the later evening when people get even drunker [11:27] except that many have a flight at about 6:30 AM === Hobbsee [i=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:28] ajmitch: Like yourself? [11:28] minghua: Interestingly enough, yellow pulled all of libtiff4, libtiff4-dev, and libtiffxx0c2 before trying to compile. I'm suspicious of scons for this one. [11:28] nah, my flight is after lunch [11:28] persia: ah, scons [11:29] persia: I met a mysterious FTBFS related to scons in Debian as well a few days ago [11:30] minghua: rumor has it that scons packages build correctly until uploaded to production :) [11:30] persia: Sounds about right. [11:30] persia: scons ought to be avoided. [11:31] the only thing I know about scons is its colorful output :-) [11:31] StevenK: I agree, but Upstream does as Upstream wills. I'm not sure I want to maintain a backport to autoconf ;) === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-243-30.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:31] persia: Actually, I'd find it amusing if a package Build-Depends on scons and Build-Conflicts on scons because it's so horrid. === hagi__ [n=hagi@adsl-84-227-45-104.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:32] StevenK: Amusing yes, but surely a sufficient bug not to be tolerated (although I am tempted) [11:33] hah, I really misinterpreted that. I thought you were saying that autoconf build-depends on scons. [11:33] Twitch [11:34] that would be quite tragic/humourous. [11:34] crimsun: That would be a feature :) [11:34] that would make little baby bunnies cry [11:34] a lot of them [11:34] at the same time [11:35] how do i sign into revu to reply to a comment? [11:35] gnomefreak: "recover" the password you were probably never sent of the email address on the registered key. [11:35] announcement: amaranth just got kicked out of the hotel room by the maid [11:35] persia: i tried that but it gave me None and it doesnt work [11:35] that is all. i must now go rofl === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] elkbuntu: just what /was/ he doing in that hotel room... [11:36] elkbuntu: so.. he's sitting on the floor, naked? [11:36] elkbuntu: just outside the room [11:36] he's walking around now, ask him [11:36] elkbuntu: *BAD MENTAL IMAGE* [11:37] gnomefreak: Sorry, that's what I did. Perhaps someone with more REVU experience could help? [11:37] gnomefreak: on the main page [11:37] when i click recover it gives me a couple of lines [11:38] to decrypt ..... than > gpg command than now paste the lines below ... no lines are there [11:38] Treenaks, do you think i'm IRCing from above a porcelain bowl or something? [11:38] http://revu.tauware.de/lostpw.py?email=gnomefreak@ubuntu.com [11:39] gnomefreak: You need an admin. [11:39] :( [11:40] elkbuntu: maybe [11:40] also why would a build fail in pbuilder and not with dpkg-buildpackage (patch failing in pbuilder) [11:42] gnomefreak: That can happen if your source tree was dirty before dpkg-buildpackage, or if your Build-Depends are insufficiently satisfied (for your patch system), or lastly, if you are patching after the autoconf fun, and need to patch configure.ac or configure.in (or similar for other build systems). [11:42] magic patch? [11:42] gnomefreak: have you uploaded a package to revu? [11:43] yes [11:43] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5092 [11:43] it builds fine here without pbuilder ;) === ajmitch blames gpg on tiber === Hobbsee blames everything on ajmitch [11:45] I'm used to that, thanks for your helpful input [11:45] :) === PriceChild [i=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:51] Does anyone know whether Soyuz uses chroot or schroot for the sbuild processes? [11:52] persia: I would ask that in #launchpad ;) [11:53] pochu: Oh well. Thanks. === persia waits until after UDS for #launchpad bothering [11:55] Good Morning Everyone [11:55] hi joejaxx [11:56] hello pochu :) === joejaxx finally has time for motu-hopeful work :D [12:02] hmmmmmmm === bersace [n=bersace@81.185.38.57] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:05] brb something is off here [12:05] persia: schroot and sbuild are rather tied together, so I'd say schroot. === Seveas [i=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] TheMuso: The man page for sbuild-setup makes lots of references to buildd.chroot, which makes me unsure. I wouldn't be surprised if dchroot was the mechanism of preference. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:09] Heya imbrandon. [12:09] StevenK: do you remember how to use requestsync for gutsy, when running feisty? [12:10] crimsun: this is due to something that was updated in gutsy because before today (for me) it built fine. [12:10] Hobbsee: eh? You specify the distro on the command line? [12:10] and if you go through and # out in 00list you will end up with no patches [12:11] i tried in 2 gutsy chroots and a gutsy main sys. [12:11] shawarma: says i dont have gutsy in apt-cache madison [12:11] although i do have the source version [12:12] mr_pouit: around? I'm packaging scribes for Debian (since the packager i revu doesn't intend to do it), and I saw you said the .svgs have a CC license. Where have you read it? :) [12:12] Hobbsee: Oh, really? Ah, yes, that makes sense. [12:12] Hobbsee: You can just specify the base version? [12:12] Hobbsee: As the last argument. [12:13] Hobbsee: forget it. [12:13] Hobbsee: I'm on crack. === bersace [n=bersace@81.185.38.57] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:14]