| waldo323 | does it see your tuner card fine after upgrading? | 12:35 |
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| waldo323 | before feisty you would need to recompile your tuner card drivers, at least for some cards | 12:36 |
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| Xenocide | hey has anyone setup wirelss on their mythtv box | 12:44 |
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| rogue780|laptop | in edgy when I inserted a SD card into my laptop it would automatically mount it and put an icon on my desktop. now when I insert an SD card under feisty nothing happens. the card reader is built into my laptop. | 01:20 |
| tgm4883_laptop | is it set in the removable media? | 01:23 |
| tgm4883_laptop | mine mounts automatically just fine | 01:24 |
| rogue780|laptop | how do I find out? | 01:25 |
| tgm4883_laptop | under system preferences removable drives and media | 01:25 |
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| a5benwillis | what command do I use to 'tail' a log file in real time? | 03:12 |
| jams | a5benwillis- tail -f logfilename | 03:40 |
| a5benwillis | tx | 03:43 |
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| gardengnome | re | 06:08 |
| gardengnome | wow, that was a rather rough ride | 06:08 |
| gardengnome | i've just installed svn packages based on marillat's 0.19 .diff on a box with superm1's 0.20 packages | 06:08 |
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| superm1 | Hey Daviey | 07:18 |
| Daviey | superm1, i thought you had died | 07:24 |
| Daviey | where have you been? :) | 07:24 |
| superm1 | Daviey, i've been moving and dont have internet setup yet | 07:24 |
| Daviey | oic | 07:24 |
| superm1 | so its been really weird without web access | 07:25 |
| gardengnome | are your hands shaking? | 07:25 |
| superm1 | yes yes they are | 07:25 |
| superm1 | it was even worse, my cell phone antenna broke, so i couldnt even get onto gmail via that ! | 07:26 |
| gardengnome | oh my god | 07:27 |
| gardengnome | i'm sorry to hear that :( | 07:27 |
| Daviey | superm1, checked i some of DaveMorris' changes to the script | 07:28 |
| superm1 | so i'm glad to be on for the moment | 07:28 |
| superm1 | what did he change? | 07:28 |
| Daviey | I also changed the date format to be YYMMDD | 07:28 |
| superm1 | are they on bzr now? | 07:28 |
| Daviey | superm1, changelog on lp - but mainly adding AMD64 support | 07:28 |
| Daviey | superm1, yes | 07:28 |
| superm1 | oh i hope that i uploaded the latest one directly from pegasus before he went changing stuff | 07:28 |
| superm1 | i dont want to have to merge ;) | 07:29 |
| superm1 | ooh proxy option | 07:29 |
| Daviey | I want to change the script to remove references to supermario and make it save to a central place. Probably /storage | 07:29 |
| superm1 | i like that | 07:29 |
| gardengnome | superm1: would you be interested in an adaption your mythtv debianisation to svn trunk? | 07:29 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, you mean the weekly build script? | 07:29 |
| superm1 | for 0.20-fixes? | 07:29 |
| gardengnome | superm1: no, i was mainly talking about the stuff thaT's in the .diff.gz | 07:30 |
| gardengnome | think debian/rules | 07:30 |
| superm1 | usually that stuff doesnt go into upstream | 07:31 |
| superm1 | its supposed to sit at debian/ubuntu/mythbuntu level | 07:31 |
| gardengnome | sure, i never meant to submit it to upstream. | 07:31 |
| Daviey | gardengnome, what is in there? | 07:31 |
| superm1 | well upstream would be svn trunk, unless we're referring to different things | 07:32 |
| gardengnome | Daviey: debian/rules, debian/control; anything that's needed to turn a source package into a debian package. | 07:32 |
| gardengnome | superm1: heh, sorry. i was going to package svn trunk. and i was wondering if you were interested in the necessary changes. | 07:32 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, i've been very very very warry of packaging svn trunk | 07:32 |
| Daviey | what i am saying is - why would we convert to svn method when it works currently? ;) | 07:33 |
| superm1 | because once someone has svn available to them really easily, things can break for a lot of people | 07:33 |
| gardengnome | superm1: it'd be their choice ;) | 07:33 |
| superm1 | there is a thread on mythtv-users about this that i commented on a little bit with this | 07:33 |
| superm1 | looking to see if there was interest | 07:33 |
| superm1 | and the consensus was that it shouldnt be made too easy for users to install svn trunk, because if there is breakage they cant go back easily | 07:34 |
| gardengnome | well, i *am* interested which is why i'm going to do it. at the moment, i'm using marillat's 0.19 stuff which someone updated for svn trunk. | 07:34 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, well your better off using our automated build script | 07:35 |
| superm1 | for 0.20 fixes svn | 07:35 |
| superm1 | because it can be switched to trunk very very easily | 07:35 |
| superm1 | (matter of switching a single env variable) | 07:35 |
| gardengnome | i don't want release-0.20-fixes, i want trunk | 07:35 |
| gardengnome | ah | 07:35 |
| superm1 | atm it will create a source package that is ready to be kicked off to a buildd or pbuilder or debuild | 07:35 |
| gardengnome | superm1: right. however, certain things like build-time dependencies will still need to be modified. | 07:36 |
| superm1 | Modified? | 07:36 |
| superm1 | for svn? | 07:36 |
| superm1 | trunk | 07:36 |
| gardengnome | yes. | 07:36 |
| gardengnome | that's my point :) | 07:36 |
| superm1 | oh i was not aware of this | 07:36 |
| gardengnome | for example, mythmusic can use libvisual and taglib now | 07:36 |
| superm1 | ah | 07:36 |
| gardengnome | there even might be some new libs | 07:36 |
| superm1 | hm | 07:37 |
| gardengnome | that's my point. ;) | 07:37 |
| superm1 | see i'm pretty torn here, i do like the idea of putting svn trunk builds together | 07:38 |
| Daviey | snapshots? | 07:38 |
| superm1 | yea | 07:38 |
| Daviey | I dunno - people want bleedin' edge - then complain when it borks | 07:38 |
| gardengnome | it also has the advantage of keeping in sync with trunk. otherwise, you'd need to make major updates every time a new release comes out. | 07:38 |
| gardengnome | which is like once a year :/ | 07:38 |
| superm1 | thats very true | 07:38 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, if you determine what needs to be changed, we can adapt it and put it on pegasus with a big big big warning that these are bleeding edge packages | 07:39 |
| superm1 | etc | 07:39 |
| Daviey | Weekly builds - semi stable & semi broken :) | 07:39 |
| gardengnome | superm1: that's not a problem, i've already got a set of working packages. i just need to adapt that to your ubuntu packages | 07:40 |
| Daviey | gardengnome, was it literally a case of running pbuilder? | 07:40 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, so do you need a hand understand how debian packages work in this case, or just need to literally make the changes to add other build deps and such | 07:41 |
| gardengnome | Daviey: i don't use pbuilder atm, but dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot worked well after adding some depndencies :) | 07:41 |
| gardengnome | superm1: i think my understanding of debian packages is sufficient to do it myself | 07:41 |
| gardengnome | i used to roll my own svn packages back in the day... ;) | 07:41 |
| superm1 | k gardengnome, well if you have any problems or questions feel free to ping me and i'll give you a hand | 07:41 |
| gardengnome | scorpi has done most of the work already: http://home.arcor.de/scorpidnb/mythtv/READ_ME | 07:42 |
| superm1 | i would really recommend taking our bzr branch | 07:42 |
| gardengnome | superm1: fine, sounds great | 07:42 |
| gardengnome | i'll set up pbuilder again. | 07:42 |
| superm1 | and starting from that debian/* directory | 07:42 |
| superm1 | because it grabs svn and makes tgz for you at least to base from | 07:42 |
| gardengnome | on my old box, i used to have pbuilder with some wrapper scripts. i should get those again | 07:42 |
| Daviey | gardengnome, can you check in your debian/ folder into bzr? | 07:42 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, here is the address to do the bzr co from: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythbuntu/devel | 07:43 |
| Daviey | gardengnome, are you in 'da team'? | 07:43 |
| gardengnome | Daviey: i don't have bzr :( it's not ready. scorpi just kept updating marillat's 0.19 packages to work with trunk | 07:43 |
| gardengnome | Daviey: nope. | 07:43 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, once you are ready to check changes back into bzr, we'll add you to the lp team | 07:44 |
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| Daviey | Have we heard anything from Garry Parker from parker1.co.uk | 07:45 |
| superm1 | juski tried to contact him some time back | 07:46 |
| superm1 | but didnt get through | 07:46 |
| Daviey | oh superm1, never heard back from MePo creater | 07:46 |
| superm1 | i think i'll just submit the themes package without mepo in it then | 07:47 |
| superm1 | until we hear back | 07:47 |
| Daviey | shame | 07:47 |
| superm1 | its easy enough to add it via a debdiff | 07:47 |
| Daviey | just important to get the main package in | 07:48 |
| Daviey | superm1, you uploaded the usplash theme to revu with a different name | 07:48 |
| superm1 | on purpose | 07:48 |
| Daviey | why? | 07:49 |
| superm1 | because thats how kubuntu follows the naming for feisty+ | 07:49 |
| Daviey | ahh | 07:49 |
| gardengnome | superm1: yay. :) | 07:49 |
| Daviey | i got the original one i uploaded nuked | 07:49 |
| superm1 | yes i saw that email this morning | 07:49 |
| superm1 | from revu | 07:49 |
| superm1 | vg | 07:49 |
| superm1 | Daviey, i wonder if i can submit this to revu leaving mepo in the source package, but just not installing it in the binary | 07:50 |
| superm1 | so the source doesnt have to be regenerated in the future | 07:50 |
| Daviey | better ask MOTU | 07:50 |
| Daviey | I would think they would say no - but technically can't see a problem | 07:51 |
| superm1 | i think they'd say no too.. | 07:51 |
| superm1 | i'll just pull it | 07:51 |
| superm1 | this package is huge btw, 90 megs for the source package | 07:52 |
| Daviey | It's been almost a week since i mailed him.... I could try the forums... | 07:52 |
| superm1 | garry parker? | 07:53 |
| gardengnome | Daviey: he is available sometimes on #mythtv-users | 07:53 |
| Daviey | no the MePo guy | 07:53 |
| gardengnome | juski knows him, AFAIK | 07:53 |
| superm1 | well its not him we need, its the guy who did his artwork | 07:53 |
| superm1 | his xml files are GPL | 07:53 |
| superm1 | but he doesnt even know about the licensing on the artwork (and has a blurb on his site about it) | 07:54 |
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| gardengnome | the build script looks nice | 08:24 |
| superm1 | (weekly build i'm assuming your talking about) | 08:25 |
| gardengnome | yep | 08:25 |
| gardengnome | it might better to include the revision in the version string instead of just using the date, though | 08:26 |
| superm1 | well i guess for trunk that'd be more important | 08:26 |
| gardengnome | yep. | 08:26 |
| superm1 | well just need to be sure to stay consistent | 08:27 |
| superm1 | do you know an easy way to grab that version number? | 08:27 |
| superm1 | we can switch to that | 08:27 |
| gardengnome | i'm on edgy still, i wonder if i need to get the pbuilder deb from feisty. | 08:27 |
| gardengnome | superm1: svn info | grep something | cut something probably | 08:27 |
| gardengnome | or capture the last line from svn co/svn up | 08:27 |
| superm1 | didnt even know there was an info option for svn | 08:28 |
| gardengnome | heh | 08:28 |
| gardengnome | something is very wrong here. i tried to do a "find -name something | grep somethingelse" in the minimyth build tree and the kernel OOPSed. | 08:29 |
| gardengnome | i think i need some fsck magic. | 08:29 |
| Daviey | fsck is black magic | 08:30 |
| gardengnome | heh | 08:30 |
| Daviey | it fscked one of my partitions | 08:30 |
| gardengnome | i guess i'll modify work/debian-mythtv now and get acquainted with the build script later | 08:31 |
| superm1 | yea it covers most of the complexities of the package | 08:32 |
| gardengnome | i wonder what kind of versioning schema should be used. "0.20-trunk-rXXXX" is not exactly a great idea | 08:33 |
| tgm4883_laptop | is there a certain amout of free space that is required on the recording partition? | 08:33 |
| a5benwillis | Good afternoon, can anyone help me get lirc_serial working under Ubuntu Edgy? | 08:35 |
| Daviey | gardengnome, probably svn$date | 08:35 |
| gardengnome | Daviey: we should ensure that the version is higher than the current release so as not to confuse apt | 08:36 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, what about just adding a r### after the current svn$date | 08:36 |
| superm1 | a5benwillis, what sort of troubles? | 08:36 |
| gardengnome | sounds sensible | 08:37 |
| Daviey | a5benwillis, what guide are you following? | 08:37 |
| a5benwillis | I've tried several but am working from this one atm. | 08:37 |
| a5benwillis | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Edgy | 08:37 |
| a5benwillis | I have a home-brew serial rx. | 08:38 |
| superm1 | k a5benwillis what is happening for you then? | 08:38 |
| superm1 | does the module load? | 08:38 |
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| a5benwillis | yes, module loads | 08:38 |
| a5benwillis | I get /dev/lirc0 | 08:38 |
| Daviey | and if you start the service? | 08:38 |
| a5benwillis | but when I run mode2 -d /dev/lirc0 I get nooutpur when pushing buttons | 08:39 |
| a5benwillis | Its difficult because I have no way to test the receiver other than lirc. | 08:39 |
| Daviey | a5benwillis, what does - sudo /etc/init.d/lirc start give you? | 08:41 |
| superm1 | a5benwillis, do you have multiple serial ports? | 08:42 |
| a5benwillis | LIRC IS NOT CONFIGURED | 08:42 |
| a5benwillis | started daemon | 08:42 |
| a5benwillis | only one serial port per dmesg | 08:42 |
| superm1 | ah and the daemon would not start if you haven't irrecorded your remote yet of course | 08:42 |
| Daviey | a5benwillis, have you used 'setserial'? | 08:43 |
| a5benwillis | superm1: I shouldnt have to confiigure the daemon to test whether Im getting signals from the remote though. | 08:43 |
| superm1 | right | 08:44 |
| a5benwillis | yes,setserial to set uart to none | 08:45 |
| Daviey | did you make the reciever yourself or purchase it? | 08:45 |
| a5benwillis | made from here http://www.lirc.org/images/schematics.gif | 08:46 |
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| Daviey | a5benwillis, pain - so it's never been tested :( | 08:47 |
| a5benwillis | true,butits a pretty siple circuit.. | 08:48 |
| superm1 | a5benwillis, you've made sure that the serial port is enabled in the BIOS? It will show up in dmesg regardless (on at least 2 of my machines that i know its turned off in the BIOS) | 08:50 |
| superm1 | and the irq/interrupt are set appropriately to what you set in lirc-modules-source? | 08:51 |
| a5benwillis | I havent checked the bios | 08:52 |
| a5benwillis | good idea | 08:52 |
| a5benwillis | I need to grab my logic probe from home, that should tell me if Im getting signal from the ir rx | 08:53 |
| superm1 | from *home*? | 08:56 |
| superm1 | you mean work i'd think... | 08:56 |
| a5benwillis | yes, enabled in bios | 08:56 |
| a5benwillis | No, I have one at home. | 08:57 |
| a5benwillis | not at work :) | 08:57 |
| superm1 | :) | 08:57 |
| a5benwillis | should irw work without the daemon running? | 08:59 |
| superm1 | No, it connects to the daemon | 09:00 |
| superm1 | and you need a lircd.conf | 09:00 |
| a5benwillis | superm1: Gonna reinstall edgy.I wonderif following the first guide mucked something in the kernel up | 09:01 |
| superm1 | well what guide did you first follow? | 09:02 |
| a5benwillis | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=163496 | 09:02 |
| superm1 | ah a source guide | 09:02 |
| superm1 | well you should be able to revert anything done there, and take out that /etc/init.d/homebrew | 09:03 |
| superm1 | and /etc/rcS.d/S99homebrew | 09:03 |
| superm1 | you've done that i imagine right? | 09:03 |
| a5benwillis | not yet, couldnt get past testing mode2 | 09:03 |
| superm1 | well that is going to mess you up for sure | 09:03 |
| superm1 | ln /dev/lirc0 /dev/lirc? | 09:03 |
| superm1 | that will most definitely break things | 09:03 |
| a5benwillis | I diddo that but it doesnt stick | 09:04 |
| superm1 | well when modprobing lirc_serial, that /dev/lirc0 should be made on its own | 09:04 |
| a5benwillis | Im testing this on another machine so I dont muck up my myth box. when I know how to do it right I'll install on myth.. | 09:04 |
| superm1 | if its not being made, then there is another trouble | 09:04 |
| superm1 | ah | 09:05 |
| Daviey | a5benwillis, took me a week to get working untill i followed the wiki guide ;) | 09:05 |
| a5benwillis | yes, lirc0gets made, no lirc though | 09:05 |
| a5benwillis | Daviey: I feel better now :D | 09:05 |
| Daviey | almost gave up... didn't work when i went to bed... Switched on in the morning and it worked :) | 09:05 |
| Daviey | I look after the bookmark very carefully now. | 09:06 |
| a5benwillis | Im still trying to get a few init scriupts to work on this box as well. Once that and lirc are up I'll have a wife friendly myth box. | 09:07 |
| a5benwillis | I use Sat so I have to start a few "things" as well | 09:07 |
| Daviey | a5benwillis, init scripts are easy. There is a bare one / or just rip of another inside init.d | 09:07 |
| Daviey | then make a symlink inside the runlevel of your choice | 09:08 |
| a5benwillis | I have a few example scripts for starting a few daemons. I get a few errors from one. | 09:08 |
| a5benwillis | I can start everything manually of course andit works fine. | 09:08 |
| a5benwillis | yeah, I had the symlinksin there but took them out til I got the script right. | 09:09 |
| a5benwillis | Daviey: What IR receiver do you use? | 09:09 |
| Daviey | a5benwillis, homebrew - used to use one on Nova-T - but then had to have separate when i split back/frontend | 09:10 |
| a5benwillis | I might have to buy one if I cant verify that this one I made works. | 09:10 |
| Daviey | tbh. i purchased mine - it was only UK8 | 09:11 |
| Daviey | For parts - all local suppliers wanted a quantity of >5. Would have cost me more | 09:12 |
| gardengnome | some of the patches will have to be updated, eg the debian patch | 09:15 |
| gardengnome | the recording group stuff seems to break it | 09:15 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, how does the recording group stuff work now? | 09:16 |
| superm1 | is there like a primary directory steting? | 09:16 |
| gardengnome | superm1: i think there's a primary directory, yes. i haven't really looke dinto it because my mythtv box is broken :'( | 09:17 |
| gardengnome | i'll try to come up with a patch | 09:17 |
| Daviey | Will any of you guys us the different recording directories? | 09:17 |
| gardengnome | yes | 09:17 |
| gardengnome | i don't like LVM. | 09:17 |
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| superm1 | i will switch to different recording directories i think | 09:18 |
| superm1 | i'm wary of LVM, i lost all my data once when i drive died | 09:18 |
| gardengnome | i've got an empty 400G partition dedicated to mythtv at the moment, another couple of gigabytes are waiting in an unused logical volume | 09:18 |
| Daviey | that's a good point - my backup's are on the same LVM - maybe i should stop that | 09:18 |
| gardengnome | that should keep me going for a while | 09:19 |
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| superm1 | Daviey, http://revu.tauware.de./details.py?upid=5108 | 09:34 |
| Daviey | good | 09:35 |
| Daviey | :s - http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/mythtv-themes-unofficial-0705111500/lintian | 09:36 |
| superm1 | revu servers are never updated for that stuff ;) | 09:36 |
| Daviey | bad-distribution-in-changes-file gutsy - hasn't revu updated to gutsy? | 09:36 |
| gardengnome | um | 09:36 |
| gardengnome | the configfiles/ directory was moved to contrib/configfiles which is installed into debian/mythtv-backend/usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend | 09:37 |
| gardengnome | should the configfiles still be put into the mythtv-doc package, eg should i move them out of the mythtv-backend package again? | 09:38 |
| superm1 | sudo apt-get install mythtv-doc | 09:38 |
| superm1 | oops | 09:38 |
| superm1 | meant to look in a terminal what was in mythtv-doc right now :) | 09:38 |
| gardengnome | :) | 09:38 |
| gardengnome | apt-file show :) | 09:38 |
| Daviey | The following NEW packages will be installed | 09:39 |
| Daviey | mythtv-doc | 09:39 |
| Daviey | 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. | 09:39 |
| Daviey | Need to get 1135kB of archives. | 09:39 |
| Daviey | After unpacking 1819kB of additional disk space will be used. | 09:39 |
| superm1 | mythtv-doc takes eveyrthing on configfiles/* and puts it in mythtv-doc/examples | 09:39 |
| Daviey | sorry - thought this was a terminal :0 | 09:39 |
| superm1 | see debian/rules: dh_installexamples -pmythtv-doc configfiles/* | 09:40 |
| gardengnome | right. | 09:41 |
| superm1 | oh wait i see what your comment was | 09:41 |
| superm1 | configfiles is now contrib/configfiles | 09:41 |
| gardengnome | yep | 09:41 |
| superm1 | yes move it back out | 09:41 |
| gardengnome | suppose i'll just delete debian/mythtv-backend/usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/configfiles. | 09:46 |
| superm1 | well there are lots of ways to handle it, probably moving it to the old location is easiest | 09:47 |
| gardengnome | sure, but i'd have to write a "clean" rule to move it back to the new place on dpkg-buildpackage clean, right? | 09:48 |
| superm1 | right | 09:48 |
| gardengnome | some people aren't happy with using --compile-type=debug and stripping the symbols later. someone told me that we'd be missing out optimizations then. | 09:50 |
| gardengnome | guess i'll have to task again in #mythtv | 09:50 |
| gardengnome | there's --compile-type=profile which will allow for optimizations while retaining debug symbols | 09:51 |
| superm1 | when i looked at the source, i didnt see anything that would be taken out by --compile-type=debug | 09:51 |
| superm1 | your sure that leaves optimizations and debug symbols, the compile type=profile | 09:52 |
| superm1 | and these arent CPU specific optimizations or anything like that? | 09:52 |
| gardengnome | i'll talk to someone more knowledgeable later. i think that -O2 is not possible with --compile-type=debug | 09:53 |
| gardengnome | not sure, though | 09:53 |
| superm1 | K | 09:53 |
| superm1 | well if anything, i'm always more preferable to -Os | 09:53 |
| superm1 | rather than -O2 | 09:53 |
| gardengnome | sure, but if we use our own optimizations flags, we get to keep both pieces if it breaks | 09:54 |
| a5benwillis | superm1: Banging my head against the wall lol | 09:54 |
| superm1 | a5benwillis, :) | 09:54 |
| a5benwillis | superm1: Reinstalled, followed the wiki. Loaded the serial module | 09:54 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, let me know what they say in #mythtv bout the compile types | 09:55 |
| a5benwillis | got lirc, lirc0 | 09:55 |
| superm1 | and we can switch it around as needed | 09:55 |
| a5benwillis | sudo mode2, nothing from remote.. | 09:55 |
| gardengnome | superm1: yep. i'll wrap my head around the packages first, though | 09:55 |
| superm1 | i say you need to checkout that device and make sure its working | 09:55 |
| superm1 | with your logic analyzer | 09:55 |
| a5benwillis | I get this from dmesg: | 09:57 |
| a5benwillis | [17180180.760000] lirc_serial: no version for "lirc_unregister_plugin" found: kernel tainted. | 09:57 |
| a5benwillis | [17180181.760000] lirc_serial: auto-detected active low receiver | 09:57 |
| a5benwillis | I'm not sure if that "tainted" message is bad or not.. | 09:57 |
| superm1 | i get that on my functional mceusb2 setup, so i wouldnt worry | 09:58 |
| a5benwillis | I have a Harmony remote. Would a mceusb recieverwork orshould I stick to the serial? | 09:58 |
| superm1 | well i've never tried a remote other than the mceusb2 or mceusb i have | 09:59 |
| superm1 | but the harmony can learn the commands for mceusb2 if you needed it to | 09:59 |
| superm1 | i've been really happy with the mceusb2 myself | 09:59 |
| a5benwillis | k, I guessI'll test this adapter and if anythings in questionII'll just order one online. | 09:59 |
| gardengnome | superm1: is it still true that an additional package containing the dbg symbols is being produced from those packages? | 09:59 |
| superm1 | yes | 10:00 |
| superm1 | if you do it in a pbuilder though, you need an extra package thats not in the pbuilder by defualt | 10:00 |
| superm1 | i have it in my local pbuilders | 10:00 |
| superm1 | and the buildds have it as well | 10:00 |
| gardengnome | ok, just wondering | 10:00 |
| superm1 | thats why the -dbg package of mythtv was dropped because of the symbol stripping functionality apport gives | 10:01 |
| a5benwillis | superm1: Using anledIm able to testpower through the circuit all the way to the ir. I'll need my digital probe to check the ir output. | 10:04 |
| a5benwillis | thanks for all ofthe help! | 10:04 |
| superm1 | good luck a5benwillis | 10:05 |
| superm1 | let us know how it turns out | 10:05 |
| a5benwillis | will do! | 10:05 |
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| superm1 | gardengnome, what you confused on? | 10:05 |
| gardengnome | superm1: just need to brush up my bash skills a bit ;) | 10:06 |
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| gardengnome | could someone please tell me why this clean target: http://www.pastebin.ca/483620 results in this error message: http://www.pastebin.ca/483623 | 10:29 |
| gardengnome | i have the feeling it's something embarrassing | 10:30 |
| superm1 | dont you need a ; then | 10:39 |
| superm1 | after the if [ ! -f Makefile ] | 10:39 |
| superm1 | er wait... | 10:40 |
| superm1 | thats not what you added | 10:40 |
| gardengnome | yeah, sorry | 10:40 |
| superm1 | you added the if [ -a configfiles ] ; then | 10:40 |
| superm1 | right? | 10:40 |
| gardengnome | yep | 10:40 |
| superm1 | dont use the semicolon at the end of the line i dont think if your only doing one command | 10:40 |
| superm1 | for the move | 10:40 |
| superm1 | also debian/rules isn't done in bash necessarily | 10:41 |
| superm1 | i'm not sure you can even use that if | 10:41 |
| superm1 | i saw during the clean target you just move unconditionally | 10:42 |
| superm1 | at bery worst if the file is already clean, then nothing happens | 10:42 |
| gardengnome | ah. | 10:42 |
| superm1 | s/bery/very/ | 10:42 |
| gardengnome | that might explains things. :) | 10:42 |
| gardengnome | i was afraid an exit code !0 would break stuff | 10:42 |
| gardengnome | thanks. | 10:43 |
| hugolp | HI I alter my PCM volume level to 100% and then when I watch live tv with mythtv and I rewind or go forward it goes back to 70%. If I change it again to 100% it stays there until I forward o rewind that goes back to 70%. How can I make it stay at 100%? | 10:43 |
| gardengnome | superm1: that's not true :( http://www.pastebin.ca/483644 | 10:44 |
| superm1 | ha. wow | 10:44 |
| superm1 | wouldnt have expected that | 10:44 |
| superm1 | hugolp, you have to change the setting in Settings/General | 10:45 |
| hugolp | thanks superm1 | 10:45 |
| gardengnome | superm1: i'll try something else then :) | 10:45 |
| superm1 | gl gardengnome | 10:45 |
| superm1 | how about you do a mkdir -p contribfiles | 10:46 |
| superm1 | and then move the contents of contribfiles rather than the directory itself | 10:46 |
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| DaveMorri1 | hey all | 10:48 |
| DaveMorri1 | we got some time to make a list of what needs doing? | 10:48 |
| superm1 | sure DaveMorri1, in like 10 or 20 min i'll be right back and we can update the list | 10:49 |
| DaveMorri1 | Daviey: Ping | 10:49 |
| Daviey | Pong | 10:49 |
| DaveMorri1 | you free in 10-20 mins? | 10:49 |
| DaveMorri1 | for ^^ | 10:49 |
| Daviey | should be | 10:49 |
| gardengnome | superm1: sounds sensible, thanks. | 10:50 |
| superm1 | in 10-20 min i'll be free | 10:50 |
| gardengnome | is superm1 going to come back? | 11:20 |
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| DaveMorris | I'm rready | 11:22 |
| Daviey | gardengnome, he's getting cable internet installed..... so your guess is as good as how reliable the cable guys are :) | 11:22 |
| gardengnome | Daviey: ah :) | 11:22 |
| gardengnome | because i'd rather rewrite the packaging stuff instead of moving configfiles. the latter is just too annoying ;) | 11:23 |
| gardengnome | the clean target tends to break when mv/cp can't find a file | 11:23 |
| Daviey | gardengnome, to be honest - long term sounds better to rewrite to incorporate new changes | 11:23 |
| gardengnome | yeah | 11:24 |
| gardengnome | i'd just need to move a few lines around i think | 11:24 |
| DaveMorris | poke me when we're ready | 11:29 |
| Daviey | k | 11:35 |
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| superm1 | okay guys i think i'm back | 11:38 |
| superm1 | my cable modem seems to not like me very much though | 11:38 |
| DaveMorris | always the way | 11:38 |
| DaveMorris | Daviey: poke | 11:39 |
| superm1 | i had better luck on my neighbors internet :) | 11:39 |
| Daviey | here.. thanks | 11:39 |
| superm1 | so we should update the team goals page | 11:40 |
| superm1 | on w.u.c | 11:40 |
| Daviey | wiki? | 11:40 |
| gardengnome | superm1: are you *sure* you don't want me to rewrite debian/rules to accomodate for the new location of configfiles/? that'd be a lot cleaner (and less annoying for me) | 11:40 |
| superm1 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MythTVTeam | 11:40 |
| Daviey | i didn't even know that page existed! | 11:41 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, how much of a rewrite are you talking? | 11:41 |
| superm1 | hasnt been updated in a while though :) | 11:41 |
| superm1 | let me parse through the stuff that was proposed and finished, and then we can go through the goals that are left and add to them | 11:42 |
| Daviey | Okay.... are you looking to set goals for mythbuntu or mythtv specifically? | 11:42 |
| DaveMorris | I'd like to see goals we can work towards to have mythbuntu released with gutsy | 11:43 |
| gardengnome | superm1: not much. i'd just need to move the lines that handle contrib/configfiles up.. i'll tell you when i come up with something that's working and looks sane | 11:43 |
| superm1 | i think goals for mythbuntu are more appropriate, since they also affect mythtv source package | 11:44 |
| superm1 | k gardengnome | 11:45 |
| superm1 | perhaps launchpad is a better place for this | 11:45 |
| superm1 | under the mythbuntu heading | 11:45 |
| DaveMorris | like are we gonna focus on mythbuntu for the frontend 1st, both or backend | 11:45 |
| superm1 | well atm it works for frontend off a disk | 11:45 |
| superm1 | i tried it with my roomates box | 11:46 |
| superm1 | and he was even able to watch hidef off the disk | 11:46 |
| superm1 | i'd like to focus on all three at the same time | 11:46 |
| DaveMorris | ok, also are we gonna build support in for mini-itx boards, specifically the openchrome drivers which need to be built | 11:47 |
| superm1 | well that should be something that will need to be added | 11:47 |
| Daviey | Do they exist in deb format? | 11:47 |
| DaveMorris | not 6 months ago | 11:47 |
| Daviey | google-foo skills brb | 11:47 |
| superm1 | i think the best approach to this whole thing is to prioritize the things that need to go into the installer | 11:47 |
| DaveMorris | not sure if thats a licencing issue or not | 11:47 |
| superm1 | so questions that need to be addressed, BE, FE, BE/FE? | 11:48 |
| superm1 | lirc? | 11:48 |
| superm1 | detect openchrome unichrome | 11:48 |
| superm1 | and detect if firmware is needed for anything on the machine | 11:48 |
| Daviey | seems not - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome (last edited recently) - still need SVN... DaveMorris do you have a mini-itx box? | 11:48 |
| DaveMorris | we'll need scripts to download the firmware | 11:48 |
| superm1 | setup binary drivers | 11:48 |
| superm1 | setup tv out | 11:48 |
| DaveMorris | Daviey: Yes | 11:48 |
| DaveMorris | with PAL TV-OUT | 11:48 |
| Daviey | DaveMorris, can you look into debianiazing it? | 11:49 |
| DaveMorris | sure | 11:49 |
| superm1 | aye, so no build env on disk will be the goal | 11:49 |
| superm1 | have binaries of everything | 11:49 |
| Daviey | superm1, lirc - i thought we were putting it on hold in favour of the Media Centre guys? | 11:49 |
| superm1 | exactly | 11:49 |
| DaveMorris | we're not allowed to ship the firmware for cards are we, so we need scripts to grab those for the backends | 11:49 |
| superm1 | after they finish it off, we can still configure it | 11:50 |
| superm1 | yes | 11:50 |
| DaveMorris | who'sg | 11:50 |
| superm1 | unless we can get the +1 from companies whom have the firmware | 11:50 |
| DaveMorris | who's gonna add these to launchpad? | 11:50 |
| Daviey | DaveMorris, are you sure licencing doesn't allow shipment.... An email might be worth it. ITX seem quite linux friendly | 11:50 |
| superm1 | i can after i finish up cleaning this mythtv team page unless one of you really wants to | 11:50 |
| DaveMorris | I'm not sure but I'll find out why they aren't in ubuntu | 11:51 |
| Daviey | Next we need to look at other ways of making mythbuntu rock | 11:52 |
| DaveMorris | is the frontend just gonna have mythtv in, or the plugins as well | 11:52 |
| Daviey | I mean, what are other Mythtv distro's doing that we aren't? | 11:53 |
| DaveMorris | an option to install a readonly frontend to flash card would be cool | 11:53 |
| Daviey | soundn't be too hard | 11:53 |
| Daviey | flashcard / usb pendrive | 11:53 |
| superm1 | all plugins are installed by default atm . thats another question that will need to be asked in the installer | 11:53 |
| Daviey | I would like to see an Advanced option and a Basic -> basic installs everything and doesn't ask, advanced asks all these questions | 11:54 |
| Daviey | need to draw a tree really with all possible options we need to add to ubiquity | 11:54 |
| superm1 | Well some of these questions are relevant only if particular hardware will be present though | 11:54 |
| superm1 | Had one at one point, but it got scrapped because it was getting too large and complex | 11:55 |
| Daviey | How many people use non-standard hardware? | 11:55 |
| DaveMorris | might also wanna look at getting the various sound cards to work | 11:55 |
| DaveMorris | 5.1, digital, stero | 11:55 |
| Daviey | been some recent bug reports about sound. | 11:56 |
| superm1 | i'll see if i can get jetsaridem to pop in | 11:56 |
| superm1 | and majoridiot too | 11:56 |
| superm1 | and add some input | 11:56 |
| Daviey | Haven't seen much of majoridiot recently | 11:56 |
| DaveMorris | also we should try and guess the mpeg decoder needed by the frontend, and is there a way to auto dected a backend? | 11:56 |
| Daviey | broadcast ping? | 11:57 |
| Daviey | on mythbackend port? | 11:57 |
| superm1 | backend autodetection is coming in the next release of mythtv | 11:57 |
| superm1 | from what i heard | 11:57 |
| Daviey | we'll ignore that then :) | 11:57 |
| superm1 | there is a branch that handles auto configuration of a lot of things | 11:57 |
| superm1 | including tuners from what i understood | 11:58 |
| Daviey | this year or next? | 11:58 |
| superm1 | so thinking about the possibility of a "Standard" or "Advanced" install | 11:58 |
| superm1 | well next release, whenever it is | 11:58 |
| Daviey | normally end of summer isn't it? October time? | 11:58 |
| superm1 | no "normal" time | 11:58 |
| DaveMorris | also we might wanna change the default file system on the backend so its not ext3 | 11:59 |
| superm1 | myth releases arent really predictable until they get closer | 11:59 |
| superm1 | DaveMorris, either that or enable slow deletes by default | 11:59 |
| Daviey | but why use ext3? | 11:59 |
| DaveMorris | ext3 is the ubuntu default I think | 11:59 |
| superm1 | good point | 11:59 |
| DaveMorris | advanced options would be to easily setup muliple backends | 12:00 |
| superm1 | so for a std install, perhaps install a FE/BE with all plugins | 12:00 |
| Daviey | Who was looking at hacking ubiquity? | 12:00 |
| superm1 | and then do hardware questions as needed | 12:00 |
| Daviey | themes-unoffical? | 12:01 |
| superm1 | yes and that by default for std | 12:01 |
| DaveMorris | do we know any artists? | 12:01 |
| superm1 | jetsradiem was for a while, and i started to, but then finals came around | 12:01 |
| superm1 | and i had to step back from putting too much time into everything | 12:01 |
| Daviey | I went through it briefly - it's a real mess! | 12:01 |
| DaveMorris | finals are great, I'm just signing onto a Masters :/ | 12:01 |
| superm1 | just spoke with jetsradiem, he cant stop in, but i'll cc him a transcript of our talk here | 12:02 |
| Daviey | DaveMorris, are you being sponsored? | 12:02 |
| superm1 | he is emailing one of the installer guys about some more info that he needed that he will then CC me | 12:02 |
| DaveMorris | yeah, best bit of working in a uni | 12:02 |
| Daviey | DaveMorris, rogue780|mythser seems quite handy with gimp | 12:03 |
| superm1 | okay back to what i was saying about what goes into std. so we have be/fe, all plugins, all themes and only provide the hardware questions depending on the hardware that is detecting | 12:03 |
| superm1 | anything else we need for a standard install? | 12:03 |
| DaveMorris | auto start myth on boot up, and auto log into ubuntu | 12:04 |
| Daviey | superm1, should we do autodetection with v1? | 12:04 |
| superm1 | all done already :) | 12:04 |
| DaveMorris | we doing the std install on gnome? | 12:04 |
| Daviey | nope | 12:04 |
| superm1 | the ubuntu-mythtv-frontend package that i wrote earlier does that | 12:04 |
| superm1 | and it also parses for nvidia settings or lirc irxec info if they install it | 12:04 |
| Daviey | didn't know that either | 12:05 |
| DaveMorris | I'm just wondering if sorting out the sound problems for users etc will be easier on gnome, as they will get help from most people then | 12:05 |
| superm1 | DaveMorris, our env is highly customized with openbox | 12:05 |
| superm1 | for the wm | 12:05 |
| Daviey | DaveMorris, have you tried the ISO in a virtual machine? | 12:05 |
| DaveMorris | nope, I booted it up on real hardware | 12:05 |
| Daviey | okay - have you tried installing :) | 12:06 |
| DaveMorris | took a couple of attempts once it was loaded to launch the myth frontend | 12:06 |
| DaveMorris | nope, I need to sort my hardware out 1st | 12:06 |
| Daviey | odd - do you know why? | 12:06 |
| DaveMorris | my incompentence, expecting it to be like gnome :) | 12:06 |
| Daviey | DaveMorris, we did initially think about having a full gnome install - as a 'passive' advertising | 12:07 |
| DaveMorris | but thats it. People are going to expect the desktop to be like gnome if they have to interact with it | 12:07 |
| Daviey | but don't think we can fit it on the ISO - so we dropped that | 12:07 |
| superm1 | there is no way that a full ubuntu-desktop install will fit on the ISO with all of our stuff | 12:07 |
| superm1 | our stuff + X is at 350 right now | 12:07 |
| gardengnome | remove openoffice.org | 12:07 |
| superm1 | its going to be another 50-100 after the unofficial themes are added | 12:07 |
| DaveMorris | prehaps do a dvd with gnome | 12:08 |
| DaveMorris | :) | 12:08 |
| Daviey | also openbox should start faster than gnome - which is a plus for everday useage | 12:08 |
| superm1 | well DaveMorris what in gnome did you miss? | 12:08 |
| === DaveMorris never turns his frontend off | ||
| superm1 | i mean we can always add functionality to our env | 12:08 |
| Daviey | DaveMorris, i do when the electric bill comes in - then get back to my old habits | 12:09 |
| DaveMorris | superm1: nothing I can think of. | 12:09 |
| DaveMorris | Daviey: mini-itx are cheap, about 25w at full load :) | 12:09 |
| Daviey | think it could be a bad idea to maintain a dvd iso | 12:10 |
| superm1 | i think for now its better to leave gnome out, and get the rest done | 12:10 |
| DaveMorris | atm yes | 12:10 |
| superm1 | if we have room on the disk, consider it | 12:10 |
| Daviey | agreed | 12:10 |
| gardengnome | sorry for interrupting you guys, but could someone tell me please the package content of mythtv-backend? (eg pastebin 'apt-file show mythtv-backend')? i don't have a feisty box handy and launchpad... well, it's weird. | 12:10 |
| superm1 | but i think the disk is going to keep filling up more and more (adding mythweb adds apache, etc) | 12:10 |
| superm1 | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=mythtv-backend&version=feisty&arch=i386 | 12:11 |
| Daviey | Okay... what are our immediate goals? | 12:12 |
| === Daviey thinks ubiquity | ||
| gardengnome | superm1: thanks | 12:12 |
| superm1 | well i think ubiquity is the big one for all of this | 12:12 |
| superm1 | i think the standard install is a good immediate goal | 12:12 |
| superm1 | and then add the advanced afterwords | 12:12 |
| superm1 | after talking to jetsradiem though, it appears they might just be one in the same | 12:13 |
| Daviey | So we just need to hook in the extra packages? | 12:13 |
| DaveMorris | so if we break the std install goal down into smaller ones which people can pick up and look into | 12:13 |
| superm1 | reasoning being is that ubiquity is really a debconf frontend | 12:13 |
| superm1 | so when we do a standard install, it is more like enabling options for every piece of the advanced | 12:13 |
| superm1 | yes DaveMorris | 12:14 |
| superm1 | being that it is indeed a debconf frontend, it is easier to remove packages at the end by marking them in apt to be wiped | 12:14 |
| superm1 | and have everything preinstalled | 12:14 |
| DaveMorris | also prehaps have a list of hardware people have access to so we can make sure we're not duplicating testing, or someone isn't doing it all | 12:14 |
| superm1 | indeed good idea | 12:15 |
| superm1 | so the next big complication | 12:15 |
| superm1 | mythtv-setup | 12:15 |
| superm1 | i have all of the work necessary to launch it at the end of the install prior to reboot done | 12:15 |
| Daviey | mythtv-setup does little more than add stuff to the db, right? | 12:15 |
| Daviey | (and tuning ofc) | 12:15 |
| superm1 | well it configures the db for the first time | 12:15 |
| superm1 | some of the stuff done in it can be done by us | 12:16 |
| superm1 | with mysql commands | 12:16 |
| Daviey | that''s what i was about to say! | 12:16 |
| superm1 | thats 3 times today DaveMorris | 12:16 |
| superm1 | oops Daviey | 12:16 |
| DaveMorris | hehe | 12:16 |
| superm1 | but i think there is a big enough part of it still that makes it necessary to run mythtv-setup | 12:16 |
| Daviey | ie Tuning | 12:16 |
| superm1 | yes | 12:16 |
| superm1 | and adding channel data | 12:17 |
| superm1 | etc | 12:17 |
| Daviey | need to also get tv-guide wrapped up | 12:17 |
| DaveMorris | so we need to ask them what country they are in | 12:17 |
| DaveMorris | I assume we're only able to do US and UK for the 1st releases | 12:17 |
| superm1 | well that can be handled by the time zone information at the start of the install can it not? | 12:17 |
| superm1 | what we *can* do however, is modify the mythtv source packages for better defaults of some of the options | 12:17 |
| superm1 | thats how i enabled ALSA to be the default for audio rather than OSS from now forward | 12:18 |
| Daviey | so we can't do much with Ubiquity until we hear back from Jetstream | 12:19 |
| superm1 | well we can get our entire storyboard assembled | 12:20 |
| superm1 | for the install process | 12:20 |
| superm1 | something like a flow chart | 12:20 |
| superm1 | or a state machine if you will | 12:20 |
| Daviey | DFA ftw :) | 12:20 |
| superm1 | so any good apps for assembling a story board like this? | 12:23 |
| Daviey | Launchpad can do flow charts? | 12:23 |
| superm1 | can it? | 12:23 |
| Daviey | not sure if it is for planning or something else | 12:23 |
| Daviey | but i know i have seen flow charts on it | 12:23 |
| gardengnome | superm1: maybe you like freemind | 12:23 |
| gardengnome | it's a mindmapping application | 12:23 |
| gardengnome | dunno if it suits your needs, though | 12:23 |
| DaveMorris | superm1: MS Visio ;) | 12:24 |
| superm1 | lets see if freemind is in apt | 12:24 |
| superm1 | apt-cache search freemind | 12:24 |
| superm1 | kdissert - mindmapping tool | 12:24 |
| superm1 | heard of that one gardengnome ? | 12:24 |
| gardengnome | no | 12:24 |
| gardengnome | freemind is java app | 12:25 |
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| gardengnome | http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page | 12:25 |
| Daviey | There was a recent disccusion of them on a mailing list recently | 12:25 |
| Daviey | wikipedia has a list of mind mapping apps | 12:25 |
| Daviey | i think we should certainly keep the file in bzr tho | 12:25 |
| superm1 | looks like kdissert might be able to do it pretty easily | 12:25 |
| superm1 | daviey we should move our branch for mythbuntu | 12:26 |
| superm1 | over to the mythbuntu section on LP | 12:26 |
| Daviey | set up a mythbuntu team now? | 12:26 |
| superm1 | dont even need a team for it i dont think, because a project can have a code section | 12:26 |
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