[12:35] does it see your tuner card fine after upgrading? [12:36] before feisty you would need to recompile your tuner card drivers, at least for some cards === Xenocide [n=xeno@cpe-024-163-112-039.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:44] hey has anyone setup wirelss on their mythtv box === Xenocide [n=xeno@cpe-024-163-112-039.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving"] === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.129.223] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === rogue780|laptop [n=rogue780@c-68-49-53-29.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:20] in edgy when I inserted a SD card into my laptop it would automatically mount it and put an icon on my desktop. now when I insert an SD card under feisty nothing happens. the card reader is built into my laptop. [01:23] is it set in the removable media? [01:24] mine mounts automatically just fine [01:25] how do I find out? 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[07:25] yes yes they are [07:26] it was even worse, my cell phone antenna broke, so i couldnt even get onto gmail via that ! [07:27] oh my god [07:27] i'm sorry to hear that :( [07:28] superm1, checked i some of DaveMorris' changes to the script [07:28] so i'm glad to be on for the moment [07:28] what did he change? [07:28] I also changed the date format to be YYMMDD [07:28] are they on bzr now? [07:28] superm1, changelog on lp - but mainly adding AMD64 support [07:28] superm1, yes [07:28] oh i hope that i uploaded the latest one directly from pegasus before he went changing stuff [07:29] i dont want to have to merge ;) [07:29] ooh proxy option [07:29] I want to change the script to remove references to supermario and make it save to a central place. Probably /storage [07:29] i like that [07:29] superm1: would you be interested in an adaption your mythtv debianisation to svn trunk? [07:29] gardengnome, you mean the weekly build script? [07:29] for 0.20-fixes? [07:30] superm1: no, i was mainly talking about the stuff thaT's in the .diff.gz [07:30] think debian/rules [07:31] usually that stuff doesnt go into upstream [07:31] its supposed to sit at debian/ubuntu/mythbuntu level [07:31] sure, i never meant to submit it to upstream. [07:31] gardengnome, what is in there? [07:32] well upstream would be svn trunk, unless we're referring to different things [07:32] Daviey: debian/rules, debian/control; anything that's needed to turn a source package into a debian package. [07:32] superm1: heh, sorry. i was going to package svn trunk. and i was wondering if you were interested in the necessary changes. [07:32] gardengnome, i've been very very very warry of packaging svn trunk [07:33] what i am saying is - why would we convert to svn method when it works currently? ;) [07:33] because once someone has svn available to them really easily, things can break for a lot of people [07:33] superm1: it'd be their choice ;) [07:33] there is a thread on mythtv-users about this that i commented on a little bit with this [07:33] looking to see if there was interest [07:34] and the consensus was that it shouldnt be made too easy for users to install svn trunk, because if there is breakage they cant go back easily [07:34] well, i *am* interested which is why i'm going to do it. at the moment, i'm using marillat's 0.19 stuff which someone updated for svn trunk. [07:35] gardengnome, well your better off using our automated build script [07:35] for 0.20 fixes svn [07:35] because it can be switched to trunk very very easily [07:35] (matter of switching a single env variable) [07:35] i don't want release-0.20-fixes, i want trunk [07:35] ah [07:35] atm it will create a source package that is ready to be kicked off to a buildd or pbuilder or debuild [07:36] superm1: right. however, certain things like build-time dependencies will still need to be modified. [07:36] Modified? [07:36] for svn? [07:36] trunk [07:36] yes. [07:36] that's my point :) [07:36] oh i was not aware of this [07:36] for example, mythmusic can use libvisual and taglib now [07:36] ah [07:36] there even might be some new libs [07:37] hm [07:37] that's my point. ;) [07:38] see i'm pretty torn here, i do like the idea of putting svn trunk builds together [07:38] snapshots? [07:38] yea [07:38] I dunno - people want bleedin' edge - then complain when it borks [07:38] it also has the advantage of keeping in sync with trunk. otherwise, you'd need to make major updates every time a new release comes out. [07:38] which is like once a year :/ [07:38] thats very true [07:39] gardengnome, if you determine what needs to be changed, we can adapt it and put it on pegasus with a big big big warning that these are bleeding edge packages [07:39] etc [07:39] Weekly builds - semi stable & semi broken :) [07:40] superm1: that's not a problem, i've already got a set of working packages. i just need to adapt that to your ubuntu packages [07:40] gardengnome, was it literally a case of running pbuilder? [07:41] gardengnome, so do you need a hand understand how debian packages work in this case, or just need to literally make the changes to add other build deps and such [07:41] Daviey: i don't use pbuilder atm, but dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot worked well after adding some depndencies :) [07:41] superm1: i think my understanding of debian packages is sufficient to do it myself [07:41] i used to roll my own svn packages back in the day... ;) [07:41] k gardengnome, well if you have any problems or questions feel free to ping me and i'll give you a hand [07:42] scorpi has done most of the work already: http://home.arcor.de/scorpidnb/mythtv/READ_ME [07:42] i would really recommend taking our bzr branch [07:42] superm1: fine, sounds great [07:42] i'll set up pbuilder again. [07:42] and starting from that debian/* directory [07:42] because it grabs svn and makes tgz for you at least to base from [07:42] on my old box, i used to have pbuilder with some wrapper scripts. i should get those again [07:42] gardengnome, can you check in your debian/ folder into bzr? [07:43] gardengnome, here is the address to do the bzr co from: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythbuntu/devel [07:43] gardengnome, are you in 'da team'? [07:43] Daviey: i don't have bzr :( it's not ready. scorpi just kept updating marillat's 0.19 packages to work with trunk [07:43] Daviey: nope. [07:44] gardengnome, once you are ready to check changes back into bzr, we'll add you to the lp team === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.129.223] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:45] Have we heard anything from Garry Parker from parker1.co.uk [07:46] juski tried to contact him some time back [07:46] but didnt get through [07:46] oh superm1, never heard back from MePo creater [07:47] i think i'll just submit the themes package without mepo in it then [07:47] until we hear back [07:47] shame [07:47] its easy enough to add it via a debdiff [07:48] just important to get the main package in [07:48] superm1, you uploaded the usplash theme to revu with a different name [07:48] on purpose [07:49] why? [07:49] because thats how kubuntu follows the naming for feisty+ [07:49] ahh [07:49] superm1: yay. :) [07:49] i got the original one i uploaded nuked [07:49] yes i saw that email this morning [07:49] from revu [07:49] vg [07:50] Daviey, i wonder if i can submit this to revu leaving mepo in the source package, but just not installing it in the binary [07:50] so the source doesnt have to be regenerated in the future [07:50] better ask MOTU [07:51] I would think they would say no - but technically can't see a problem [07:51] i think they'd say no too.. [07:51] i'll just pull it [07:52] this package is huge btw, 90 megs for the source package [07:52] It's been almost a week since i mailed him.... I could try the forums... [07:53] garry parker? [07:53] Daviey: he is available sometimes on #mythtv-users [07:53] no the MePo guy [07:53] juski knows him, AFAIK [07:53] well its not him we need, its the guy who did his artwork [07:53] his xml files are GPL [07:54] but he doesnt even know about the licensing on the artwork (and has a blurb on his site about it) === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.129.223] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.129.223] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-111-176-187.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883_@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:24] the build script looks nice [08:25] (weekly build i'm assuming your talking about) [08:25] yep [08:26] it might better to include the revision in the version string instead of just using the date, though [08:26] well i guess for trunk that'd be more important [08:26] yep. [08:27] well just need to be sure to stay consistent [08:27] do you know an easy way to grab that version number? [08:27] we can switch to that [08:27] i'm on edgy still, i wonder if i need to get the pbuilder deb from feisty. [08:27] superm1: svn info | grep something | cut something probably [08:27] or capture the last line from svn co/svn up [08:28] didnt even know there was an info option for svn [08:28] heh [08:29] something is very wrong here. i tried to do a "find -name something | grep somethingelse" in the minimyth build tree and the kernel OOPSed. [08:29] i think i need some fsck magic. [08:30] fsck is black magic [08:30] heh [08:30] it fscked one of my partitions [08:31] i guess i'll modify work/debian-mythtv now and get acquainted with the build script later [08:32] yea it covers most of the complexities of the package [08:33] i wonder what kind of versioning schema should be used. "0.20-trunk-rXXXX" is not exactly a great idea [08:33] is there a certain amout of free space that is required on the recording partition? [08:35] Good afternoon, can anyone help me get lirc_serial working under Ubuntu Edgy? [08:35] gardengnome, probably svn$date [08:36] Daviey: we should ensure that the version is higher than the current release so as not to confuse apt [08:36] gardengnome, what about just adding a r### after the current svn$date [08:36] a5benwillis, what sort of troubles? [08:37] sounds sensible [08:37] a5benwillis, what guide are you following? [08:37] I've tried several but am working from this one atm. [08:37] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Edgy [08:38] I have a home-brew serial rx. [08:38] k a5benwillis what is happening for you then? [08:38] does the module load? === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-111-176-187.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:38] yes, module loads [08:38] I get /dev/lirc0 [08:38] and if you start the service? [08:39] but when I run mode2 -d /dev/lirc0 I get nooutpur when pushing buttons [08:39] Its difficult because I have no way to test the receiver other than lirc. [08:41] a5benwillis, what does - sudo /etc/init.d/lirc start give you? [08:42] a5benwillis, do you have multiple serial ports? [08:42] LIRC IS NOT CONFIGURED [08:42] started daemon [08:42] only one serial port per dmesg [08:42] ah and the daemon would not start if you haven't irrecorded your remote yet of course [08:43] a5benwillis, have you used 'setserial'? [08:43] superm1: I shouldnt have to confiigure the daemon to test whether Im getting signals from the remote though. [08:44] right [08:45] yes,setserial to set uart to none [08:45] did you make the reciever yourself or purchase it? [08:46] made from here http://www.lirc.org/images/schematics.gif === MegaQuark [n=gary@pool-71-111-176-187.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:47] a5benwillis, pain - so it's never been tested :( [08:48] true,butits a pretty siple circuit.. [08:50] a5benwillis, you've made sure that the serial port is enabled in the BIOS? It will show up in dmesg regardless (on at least 2 of my machines that i know its turned off in the BIOS) [08:51] and the irq/interrupt are set appropriately to what you set in lirc-modules-source? [08:52] I havent checked the bios [08:52] good idea [08:53] I need to grab my logic probe from home, that should tell me if Im getting signal from the ir rx [08:56] from *home*? [08:56] you mean work i'd think... [08:56] yes, enabled in bios [08:57] No, I have one at home. [08:57] not at work :) [08:57] :) [08:59] should irw work without the daemon running? [09:00] No, it connects to the daemon [09:00] and you need a lircd.conf [09:01] superm1: Gonna reinstall edgy.I wonderif following the first guide mucked something in the kernel up [09:02] well what guide did you first follow? [09:02] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=163496 [09:02] ah a source guide [09:03] well you should be able to revert anything done there, and take out that /etc/init.d/homebrew [09:03] and /etc/rcS.d/S99homebrew [09:03] you've done that i imagine right? [09:03] not yet, couldnt get past testing mode2 [09:03] well that is going to mess you up for sure [09:03] ln /dev/lirc0 /dev/lirc? [09:03] that will most definitely break things [09:04] I diddo that but it doesnt stick [09:04] well when modprobing lirc_serial, that /dev/lirc0 should be made on its own [09:04] Im testing this on another machine so I dont muck up my myth box. when I know how to do it right I'll install on myth.. [09:04] if its not being made, then there is another trouble [09:05] ah [09:05] a5benwillis, took me a week to get working untill i followed the wiki guide ;) [09:05] yes, lirc0gets made, no lirc though [09:05] Daviey: I feel better now :D [09:05] almost gave up... didn't work when i went to bed... Switched on in the morning and it worked :) [09:06] I look after the bookmark very carefully now. [09:07] Im still trying to get a few init scriupts to work on this box as well. Once that and lirc are up I'll have a wife friendly myth box. [09:07] I use Sat so I have to start a few "things" as well [09:07] a5benwillis, init scripts are easy. There is a bare one / or just rip of another inside init.d [09:08] then make a symlink inside the runlevel of your choice [09:08] I have a few example scripts for starting a few daemons. I get a few errors from one. [09:08] I can start everything manually of course andit works fine. [09:09] yeah, I had the symlinksin there but took them out til I got the script right. [09:09] Daviey: What IR receiver do you use? [09:10] a5benwillis, homebrew - used to use one on Nova-T - but then had to have separate when i split back/frontend [09:10] I might have to buy one if I cant verify that this one I made works. [09:11] tbh. i purchased mine - it was only UK8 [09:12] For parts - all local suppliers wanted a quantity of >5. Would have cost me more [09:15] some of the patches will have to be updated, eg the debian patch [09:15] the recording group stuff seems to break it [09:16] gardengnome, how does the recording group stuff work now? [09:16] is there like a primary directory steting? [09:17] superm1: i think there's a primary directory, yes. i haven't really looke dinto it because my mythtv box is broken :'( [09:17] i'll try to come up with a patch [09:17] Will any of you guys us the different recording directories? [09:17] yes [09:17] i don't like LVM. === Daviey adores LVM [09:18] i will switch to different recording directories i think [09:18] i'm wary of LVM, i lost all my data once when i drive died [09:18] i've got an empty 400G partition dedicated to mythtv at the moment, another couple of gigabytes are waiting in an unused logical volume [09:18] that's a good point - my backup's are on the same LVM - maybe i should stop that [09:19] that should keep me going for a while === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-111-176-187.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:34] Daviey, http://revu.tauware.de./details.py?upid=5108 [09:35] good [09:36] :s - http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/mythtv-themes-unofficial-0705111500/lintian [09:36] revu servers are never updated for that stuff ;) [09:36] bad-distribution-in-changes-file gutsy - hasn't revu updated to gutsy? [09:36] um [09:37] the configfiles/ directory was moved to contrib/configfiles which is installed into debian/mythtv-backend/usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend [09:38] should the configfiles still be put into the mythtv-doc package, eg should i move them out of the mythtv-backend package again? [09:38] sudo apt-get install mythtv-doc [09:38] oops [09:38] meant to look in a terminal what was in mythtv-doc right now :) [09:38] :) [09:38] apt-file show :) [09:39] The following NEW packages will be installed [09:39] mythtv-doc [09:39] 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. [09:39] Need to get 1135kB of archives. [09:39] After unpacking 1819kB of additional disk space will be used. [09:39] mythtv-doc takes eveyrthing on configfiles/* and puts it in mythtv-doc/examples [09:39] sorry - thought this was a terminal :0 [09:40] see debian/rules: dh_installexamples -pmythtv-doc configfiles/* [09:41] right. [09:41] oh wait i see what your comment was [09:41] configfiles is now contrib/configfiles [09:41] yep [09:41] yes move it back out [09:46] suppose i'll just delete debian/mythtv-backend/usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/configfiles. [09:47] well there are lots of ways to handle it, probably moving it to the old location is easiest [09:48] sure, but i'd have to write a "clean" rule to move it back to the new place on dpkg-buildpackage clean, right? [09:48] right [09:50] some people aren't happy with using --compile-type=debug and stripping the symbols later. someone told me that we'd be missing out optimizations then. [09:50] guess i'll have to task again in #mythtv [09:51] there's --compile-type=profile which will allow for optimizations while retaining debug symbols [09:51] when i looked at the source, i didnt see anything that would be taken out by --compile-type=debug [09:52] your sure that leaves optimizations and debug symbols, the compile type=profile [09:52] and these arent CPU specific optimizations or anything like that? [09:53] i'll talk to someone more knowledgeable later. i think that -O2 is not possible with --compile-type=debug [09:53] not sure, though [09:53] K [09:53] well if anything, i'm always more preferable to -Os [09:53] rather than -O2 [09:54] sure, but if we use our own optimizations flags, we get to keep both pieces if it breaks [09:54] superm1: Banging my head against the wall lol [09:54] a5benwillis, :) [09:54] superm1: Reinstalled, followed the wiki. Loaded the serial module [09:55] gardengnome, let me know what they say in #mythtv bout the compile types [09:55] got lirc, lirc0 [09:55] and we can switch it around as needed [09:55] sudo mode2, nothing from remote.. [09:55] superm1: yep. i'll wrap my head around the packages first, though [09:55] i say you need to checkout that device and make sure its working [09:55] with your logic analyzer [09:57] I get this from dmesg: [09:57] [17180180.760000] lirc_serial: no version for "lirc_unregister_plugin" found: kernel tainted. [09:57] [17180181.760000] lirc_serial: auto-detected active low receiver [09:57] I'm not sure if that "tainted" message is bad or not.. [09:58] i get that on my functional mceusb2 setup, so i wouldnt worry [09:58] I have a Harmony remote. Would a mceusb recieverwork orshould I stick to the serial? [09:59] well i've never tried a remote other than the mceusb2 or mceusb i have [09:59] but the harmony can learn the commands for mceusb2 if you needed it to [09:59] i've been really happy with the mceusb2 myself [09:59] k, I guessI'll test this adapter and if anythings in questionII'll just order one online. [09:59] superm1: is it still true that an additional package containing the dbg symbols is being produced from those packages? [10:00] yes [10:00] if you do it in a pbuilder though, you need an extra package thats not in the pbuilder by defualt [10:00] i have it in my local pbuilders [10:00] and the buildds have it as well [10:00] ok, just wondering [10:01] thats why the -dbg package of mythtv was dropped because of the symbol stripping functionality apport gives [10:04] superm1: Using anledIm able to testpower through the circuit all the way to the ir. I'll need my digital probe to check the ir output. [10:04] thanks for all ofthe help! [10:05] good luck a5benwillis [10:05] let us know how it turns out [10:05] will do! === gardengnome scratches his chin and gets out "linux in a nutshell" [10:05] gardengnome, what you confused on? [10:06] superm1: just need to brush up my bash skills a bit ;) === bendailey [n=bendaile@mail.bhmsd.k12.in.us] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [10:29] could someone please tell me why this clean target: http://www.pastebin.ca/483620 results in this error message: http://www.pastebin.ca/483623 [10:30] i have the feeling it's something embarrassing [10:39] dont you need a ; then [10:39] after the if [ ! -f Makefile ] [10:40] er wait... [10:40] thats not what you added [10:40] yeah, sorry [10:40] you added the if [ -a configfiles ] ; then [10:40] right? [10:40] yep [10:40] dont use the semicolon at the end of the line i dont think if your only doing one command [10:40] for the move [10:41] also debian/rules isn't done in bash necessarily [10:41] i'm not sure you can even use that if [10:42] i saw during the clean target you just move unconditionally [10:42] at bery worst if the file is already clean, then nothing happens [10:42] ah. [10:42] s/bery/very/ [10:42] that might explains things. :) [10:42] i was afraid an exit code !0 would break stuff [10:43] thanks. [10:43] HI I alter my PCM volume level to 100% and then when I watch live tv with mythtv and I rewind or go forward it goes back to 70%. If I change it again to 100% it stays there until I forward o rewind that goes back to 70%. How can I make it stay at 100%? [10:44] superm1: that's not true :( http://www.pastebin.ca/483644 [10:44] ha. wow [10:44] wouldnt have expected that [10:45] hugolp, you have to change the setting in Settings/General [10:45] thanks superm1 [10:45] superm1: i'll try something else then :) [10:45] gl gardengnome [10:46] how about you do a mkdir -p contribfiles [10:46] and then move the contents of contribfiles rather than the directory itself === DaveMorri1 [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:48] hey all [10:48] we got some time to make a list of what needs doing? [10:49] sure DaveMorri1, in like 10 or 20 min i'll be right back and we can update the list [10:49] Daviey: Ping [10:49] Pong [10:49] you free in 10-20 mins? [10:49] for ^^ [10:49] should be [10:50] superm1: sounds sensible, thanks. [10:50] in 10-20 min i'll be free [11:20] is superm1 going to come back? === DaveMorris [n=dave@89.243.43.236] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:22] I'm rready [11:22] gardengnome, he's getting cable internet installed..... so your guess is as good as how reliable the cable guys are :) [11:22] Daviey: ah :) [11:23] because i'd rather rewrite the packaging stuff instead of moving configfiles. the latter is just too annoying ;) [11:23] the clean target tends to break when mv/cp can't find a file [11:23] gardengnome, to be honest - long term sounds better to rewrite to incorporate new changes [11:24] yeah [11:24] i'd just need to move a few lines around i think [11:29] poke me when we're ready [11:35] k === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:38] okay guys i think i'm back [11:38] my cable modem seems to not like me very much though [11:38] always the way [11:39] Daviey: poke [11:39] i had better luck on my neighbors internet :) [11:39] here.. thanks [11:40] so we should update the team goals page [11:40] on w.u.c [11:40] wiki? [11:40] superm1: are you *sure* you don't want me to rewrite debian/rules to accomodate for the new location of configfiles/? that'd be a lot cleaner (and less annoying for me) [11:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MythTVTeam [11:41] i didn't even know that page existed! [11:41] gardengnome, how much of a rewrite are you talking? [11:41] hasnt been updated in a while though :) [11:42] let me parse through the stuff that was proposed and finished, and then we can go through the goals that are left and add to them [11:42] Okay.... are you looking to set goals for mythbuntu or mythtv specifically? [11:43] I'd like to see goals we can work towards to have mythbuntu released with gutsy [11:43]