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kalikianah3sp4wn, As far as the description goes, toolame does mp2. ;)12:26
h3sp4wnthat is what I said originally12:26
h3sp4wnhowever 23:02 < Jester45> well.. ripperx has toolame and lame as mp3 encoder options12:26
h3sp4wnimplies different12:26
kalikianaHm, weird. I never tried toolame, though.12:28
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h3sp4wnme neither12:34
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ZER0hey look, im back12:35
ZER0massive problem that i cant figure out12:36
ZER0im at a screen after the download of the java6-jdk12:37
ZER0and it has a licence agreement, and an <OK> at the bottom, but i cant click the <OK> or press enter for <OK>, etc12:37
ZER0any help?12:38
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ZER0quiet, now arent we?12:38
ZER0HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWwwwww12:39
ZER0you know what? fuck this shit, im finding people to help12:39
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darrend_moron12:41
darrend_all he had to do was hit the tab key :)12:42
Sleepy_CoderI don't like him. 0.o12:42
Sleepy_CoderDon't know him, but don't like him. :P12:42
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freezahey does xubuntu feisty come with compiz preinstalled like ubuntu?12:49
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IndyGunFreakI just installed Xubuntu 7.04, and the "File System" icon, is on my desktop, how do i set it to hide12:55
IndyGunFreakanybody12:56
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kalikianaIndyGunFreak, Settings->Desktop Settings12:58
IndyGunFreakkalikiana: everything is unchecked, and its still there12:58
IndyGunFreakacually all the icons are.12:58
IndyGunFreakand none of hte options are checked.12:58
IndyGunFreaknevermind, i got it now, don't know why, but it worked all of a sudden12:59
IndyGunFreaki had it unchecked..12:59
IndyGunFreakthanks..12:59
PrimoTurboI have a problem, my fonts in xubuntu became really small, i fixed it by forcing 96 DPI through some hack12:59
PrimoTurbohowever as a result the default GDM login theme has messed up and the text has moved to the left and it's not alligned01:00
PrimoTurboany ideas?01:00
PrimoTurbothe way I set the DPI was throught ~/.config/xfce/Xft.xrdb.01:01
PrimoTurboadding Xft.dpi: 96 at the bottom of the file01:01
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kalikianaPrimoTurbo, I know that problem - if you find a solution let me know about it. :)01:09
PrimoTurboyeah I think i found it the solution01:09
PrimoTurbothe problem is that the monitor DPI is not detected so when u force it only works for window manager and not GDM01:09
PrimoTurbou can force the monitor size to be detected01:09
PrimoTurboby messauring your monitor in mm01:10
PrimoTurbohttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xorg_and_Fonts#Note_on_DPI section /etc/X11/xorg.conf explains it01:10
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h3sp4wnits hard coded in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc also (if you use startx as I do)01:15
h3sp4wnprobably also hardcoded somewhere for gdm01:15
h3sp4wn(at 100)01:15
PrimoTurbobrb going to see if it works01:18
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IndyGunFreakhow do you change the CLock in xfce?01:28
IndyGunFreaknevermind, found it01:28
IndyGunFreaktks01:28
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PrimoTurbomonitor thing works but login is still messed up01:34
PrimoTurboI just use simply Ubuntu gdm theme for now01:34
PrimoTurboodd that only xubuntu login theme is messed up not a single other one01:35
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PrimoTurboIs there anyway to make xchat go to tray on close?01:36
kalikianaPrimoTurbo, XChat has a try icon setting. I don't know if it does what you want, though.01:45
kalikiana*tray01:45
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PrimoTurbofound the solution the command is /set gui_tray_flags 1 type it in chat01:49
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cjaehow do I get more screensavers installed03:06
Jester45have you installed the open gl ones?03:07
cjaeI am not sure I just have want was installed ootb03:07
cjaesorry that should say what03:08
Jester45!info xscreensaver-gl03:09
ubotuxscreensaver-gl: GL(Mesa) screen hacks for xscreensaver. In component main, is optional. Version 4.24-5ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1601 kB, installed size 4096 kB03:09
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cjae!info xscreensaver-gl03:09
ubotuxscreensaver-gl: GL(Mesa) screen hacks for xscreensaver. In component main, is optional. Version 4.24-5ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1601 kB, installed size 4096 kB03:09
Jester45hehe03:10
Jester45i beat you to it03:10
Jester45you could install other screensaver programs or, look online for extra xscreenaver ones03:10
cjaeso how do I tell I don't think I do cause the opengl ones have the sprongies or whatever right?03:11
Jester45how od you tell what03:12
Jester45do you tell*03:12
cjaewhat is installed03:12
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cjaew/o having to go through whole list03:13
Jester45you mean in synaptic03:13
cjaeno just your screen saver list03:13
Jester45um03:14
cjaeCan I install them through synaptic??03:14
Jester45 i dont know03:14
Jester45yea03:14
cjaeI thought it might be like in kde where part of the wm will download and install it for you03:14
Jester45to get extra screensavers for xscreensaver type this in a terminal "sudo apt-get install xcreensaver-gl-extra"03:15
Jester45or search synaptic for xscreensaver03:15
cjaethe cli is not the problem it just lack of familiarity with xfce03:16
Jester45im sorry03:16
cjaefor what03:16
Jester45o03:19
Jester45sorry wrong window03:19
cjaewhat does it mean when ppl are greyed out from channel list using xchat03:20
Jester45inactive maybe03:20
cjaethought so03:20
cjaejust a noob to irc as well03:21
Jester45its ok03:21
cjaeoh wow I wondered if it was ever going to come to me03:28
cjaeI finally thought of my other question03:29
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cjaeI was wondering why the screen savers seem to twitch out after launching the first time??03:30
cjaeThey have done this since dapper @ least03:30
cjaeI thought it might be my gpu card but why would they work once03:31
cjaehang on I m going to check the names of which are the worst03:31
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cjaecubestorm freaks out03:36
cjaebadly03:36
cjaedoes this happen with anybody else03:37
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cjaeJester45, ???03:38
cjaeanybody???03:38
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maxownzhello world03:48
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cjaethis is a pretty cool channel.....hey04:03
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kandrewsHi, does anyone know where the xfce cursor themes are stored? I see a cursor.theme file inside /usr/share/themes/ but I don't see the icons in there and when I put the theme I want to install in there, it didn't show up in the dialog to change cursor themes. Thanks!04:17
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cjaecubestorm freaks out04:28
cjaedoes this happen with anybody else04:28
Jester45let me look04:30
Jester45o04:30
Jester45you mean it smears04:30
Jester45thats what its supposed to do04:31
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BFTDyo Jester4504:39
Jester45hi04:39
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bordy240Fonts are jagged and my screen flickers in Xubuntu 7.04 on an old ibm craptop. Any advice?05:27
Jester45applications -> settings -> user interface -> play around with font rendering05:28
Jester45and for the flickering applications -> settings -> display options05:29
bordy240happen to know why I dont have a panel at the bottom? I did when I tested with edgy, I believe.05:30
Jester45are you missing 1 or both05:35
Jester45press alt + F2 then type xfce4-panel in the blank then press run05:36
s|kis ie4linux still the best way to get IE on linux?05:38
Jester45not sure05:38
Jester45im guessing so05:38
Jester45that or wine + IE05:38
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navetsi am trying to use svideo to connect my tv to my laptop on linux, can anyone help me06:12
Jester45!tvout06:12
ubotuFor help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)06:12
Jester45its pretty trickly depending on your card06:12
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navetshumm its built in06:13
navetsan intel card06:13
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ZER0help!!!!!!!!!06:20
navetsubotu: what if your not using an nvidia card06:20
ZER0wtf?06:20
ZER0anywayz06:20
ZER0yeah, i get to a configure screen with a licence and an ok button (sort of) and i cant click it or use enter or anything06:21
ZER0btw, im installing sun-java6-jdk06:21
ZER0anyone going to help?06:22
ZER0Zambezi, i think you helped me before to start the download06:23
ZER0but now i cant accept the license agreement06:23
ZER0goddamn it06:24
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ZER0posingaspopular, can u help me, no1 is helping...06:25
ZER0:(06:25
posingaspopularZER0: i can try06:25
ZER0alright06:25
ZER0i am installing sun-java6-jdk06:26
posingaspopular k06:26
ZER0i get to a license agreement screen06:26
ZER0and i cant accept the agreement06:26
ZER0:'(06:26
posingaspopularwth?!?06:26
posingaspopularhow is that possible06:26
ZER0yeah...  its got a <OK> button, but i cant click it or press enter06:26
posingaspopularand you tried aborting and restarting it06:27
ZER0yes, several times06:27
posingaspopulardid you try ubuntuforums?06:27
posingaspopulari haven't heard of this happening before06:28
ZER0no... do you know if there is a license agreement screen when installing another terminal program such as Konsole?06:28
posingaspopularno that shouldn't be an issue06:28
ZER0alright, could i use apt-get for konsole?06:29
posingaspopularumm i dont see why konsole would be an issue or related to sun-java6-jdk06:30
ZER0well, im thinking that the terminal application is the issue, so by switching to another application, i can accept the agreement06:30
posingaspopularwell konsole is just the kde front for the terminal, im assuming you're running the terminal in xubuntu feisty fawn though06:31
posingaspopularthey both do the same thign06:31
posingaspopularbut yea actually go to add/remove programs and see what happenes with konsole06:32
ZER0im using edgy06:32
posingaspopularokay06:32
ZER0im actually using apt-get to install konsole06:32
ZER0lalala 46% downloaded06:34
posingaspopularokay just tellme what happens06:34
ZER0ok06:34
posingaspopularZER0: im talking to a girl so just let me know when you need me06:38
ZER0same damn thing06:38
ZER0it keeps trying to install the jre06:38
ZER0and giving me this damn screen06:38
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odatanyone know how you get streamtuner to work with mplayer?06:38
ZER0do you know how to install the jdk/jre manually06:39
ZER0idk06:39
posingaspopularhmm no odat06:39
posingaspopularZER0: so you ran that in konsole and that's didn't work06:39
ZER0no, when i downloaded konsole, it tried installing jre and it gave me that same screen06:40
posingaspopularahh i see, dependencies issues than?06:40
ZER0yeah, which is why i need to know how to install the jre manually06:40
ZER0and where the default locations are for the files06:41
posingaspopularZER0: join #ubuntu-chicago and ask in there. i know somone has the answer in there, just tell them i sent you06:41
ZER0thanks06:42
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soberonHello... A newbie question: When I wish to install some packages using synaptic, a prompt tell about uninstall xubuntu-desktop; so This is OK? or it will destroys my configuration?07:06
posingaspopularsoberon: which packages07:07
posingaspopularbecause you definetly DONT want to uninstall xubuntu desktop07:07
soberonsmb4k07:07
posingaspopularwhich is..?07:08
soberonfor samba07:08
posingaspopularohhh i see07:08
posingaspopulari haven't touched samba07:08
posingaspopulari know a few people who have, but they're not online atm07:08
soberonso I do not install any that if tell it OK?07:09
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posingaspopulari have no clue07:09
varkasoberon: its save to uninstall xubuntu-desktop as it is only a metapackage, but you have to reinstall it in order to fullfill the next distupgrade with success07:10
lil_cainthere's a shortcut, that makes my bar at the top and bottom of the screen, with the log in and out buttons disseapear...07:10
lil_cainand I just accidentally hit it, any idea how I'd get them back?07:10
soberonThanks a lot07:10
lil_cainany ideas?07:10
soberonWhat package (other than open office) do you recommend for presentations?07:12
posingaspopularslide presentations?07:12
soberonYes07:12
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crdlbyou could just make a pdf07:13
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crdlband use a simple pdf reader07:13
crdlbif you don't need flashiness07:13
posingaspopularask j1mc07:13
posingaspopularhe's the hero in here ;)07:13
j1mchah.  hi posingaspopular07:14
posingaspopularj1mc: these guys in here have questiosn abotu samba and presentations and who knows what else07:14
lil_cainj1mc: I just pressed some shortcut to make the bar at the top and bottom of my screen go away...07:15
lil_cainhow would I get them back?07:15
soberonIn other PC (bigger) I use ubuntu with OO and works fine; I must made presentations for college and courses07:15
j1mclil_cain: try entering xfce4-panel into a command line prompt07:16
lil_cainj1mc: thanks, you're a godsend07:17
j1mclil_cain: if you close that terminal window, though, i think the panels might go away.  heh.07:17
lil_cainj1mc: I'm unlikey to that anyway...07:18
posingaspopularj1mc: soberon was asking abotu samba07:20
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j1mcposingaspopular: what did they want to know?07:21
soberonThanks... my question is for an application to share documents as smb4k07:21
soberonI see smb4k in sinaptyc07:21
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soberonbut the promt says about uninstall xubuntu-desktop07:22
soberonand it scares me07:22
j1mcsoberon: i can see how it would scare you, but xubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage name... it is ok if it gets removed.07:23
soberonso I can proceed to accept the prompt conditions?07:23
j1mcyes07:23
soberonThanks a lot for the advice07:24
j1mcsoberon: you're welcome.  good luck!07:25
soberonSee you soon07:25
posingaspopularj1mc: wasn't that fun?07:26
posingaspopulari should be your secretary07:26
j1mcposingaspopular: heh.  most of the time i am stumped if they ask hard questions.07:27
posingaspopularj1mc: yea, if it's harder than !mp3, im out of luck07:27
j1mc:)07:28
posingaspopularbbl07:30
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Gachahi08:04
Gachahow can I run the xubuntu installer in 800x600 ?08:04
GachaI got 1Mb video card which doesn't support larger screen :)08:04
TheSheepGacha: it autodetects the resolution08:05
Gachabut it's doesn't detect correctly08:05
Gachait gives me a black screen08:05
TheSheepGacha: have you tried the 'safe grpahic mode' boot option?08:06
Gachayes08:06
Gachathe same08:06
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TheSheepGacha: you don't have any other graphic card on board?08:07
Gachanope08:07
Gachathere was AGP card, but it burned08:07
Gachaand I think the AGP port is dead08:08
TheSheepGacha: I have no ideas. You might try the laternate cd -- it uses a text-mode installer08:08
Gachaok, I will, thanks08:08
TheSheep*alternate08:08
TheSheep:)08:08
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odatanyone awake?08:44
TheSheepodat: no08:45
odatTheSheep, lol08:45
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Gerrosup odat09:22
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Boj3hiho10:36
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TheSheephi Boj310:40
Boj3so happy that my old notebook works. thinkpad 380xd comes with a fresh xubuntu installation  :D10:44
Boj3Pentium II, 96 MB RAM10:45
Sleepy_Coder[01:43:20]   ***  insecure (n=chatzill@121.247.65.116) has joined #ubuntu <----this sounds like a pun. lol10:47
Sleepy_CoderCan do a lot with an IP address. :p10:48
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Boj3same to me :(10:49
Sleepy_Coder0.o10:50
Sleepy_CoderPentium II is good. :)10:50
Sleepy_CoderIt's not the worst, and it's better than most....10:50
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Boj3right, HDD sounds like a couple of bees10:51
Sleepy_Coder:)10:51
Boj3hmm putty?10:52
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grazieI've just moved house and got a very unreliable adsl connection from my ISP. Are there any scripts/tools I can use to monitor the connection?11:14
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Catoptromancytheres a network monitor11:16
Catoptromancyright click a task bar, add new item11:17
grazieThe connection is so unreliable (I've just lost connecion now) that if I don't respond to any suggestions it means that I've not seen the response.11:17
darrendgrazie: your adsl router (if it is a router and not a modem) probably has a page somewhere in its admin webapp that shows connection stats and line transmission errors11:17
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darrendgrazie: did you see my response or did your connection die before then?11:45
graziedarrend: I got your router admin page response...11:46
darrendcool.  any luck with it?11:46
graziedarrend: can't find anything on there that helps11:46
darrendwhich router?11:46
grazienetgear dg83411:47
darrendnot familiar with that one I'm afraid11:47
graziethe router is good...I just need some stats to argue with the ISP :(11:48
darrendif your ISP is BT then I wish you lots of luck arguing about anything.  You'll need it :(11:52
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h3sp4wngrazie: Do you have a shell on the router ? http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101238.asp (dunno what version you have but there is quite a bit of source code there)12:54
grazieh3sp4wn: I dunno...I'll find out...thanks for that link :)12:56
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Jester45http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=1&pid=53301:04
Jester45^thats pretty cool01:04
h3sp4wnThere is a dlink voip thing where they provide the sdk (based on kubuntu)01:11
h3sp4wnhttp://parker1.co.uk/satanic/ - anyone seen ubuntu satantic edition ?01:12
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Jester45nope01:24
h3sp4wnMe neither, but there is a comment from mark shuttleworth saying its ok01:27
h3sp4wnI thought it was a hoax up until that point01:28
Jester45http://parker1.co.uk/ubuntu-se/screenshots.php01:28
Jester45the wallpapers are pretty cool01:28
h3sp4wnYeah01:30
h3sp4wnJester45: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2786 (that is the dlink thing I am interested in but I don't think you can buy them outside Germany)01:31
h3sp4wnHorstBox they are called01:31
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aboyousif!corefonts01:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about corefonts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:33
aboyousif!mscorettf01:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mscorettf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:33
grazieaboyousif: do you know can /msg ubotu for info?01:34
aboyousifgrazie, yes i did that .. sorry01:35
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Tanohello01:52
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Pumpernickel!info msttcorefonts | aboyousif02:00
ubotuaboyousif: msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 34 kB, installed size 208 kB02:00
aboyousifPumpernickel, thanks i got it :)02:01
Pumpernickelah, good02:03
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TheSheepboje: last warning, disable this script please02:15
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FabzgyHi mates.... someone willing to help me with ISDN Probs?03:32
FabzgyI ve installed Xubuntu 6.06 and don t find any ISDN configuration Client...03:33
FabzgyRight now I m online with knoppix Red Hat ISDN Config but I wonder if there is something for ubuntu...03:34
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Fabzgyhi ToHellWithGA do you ve got a clue how to install packages if you are not online?03:47
Merchelo!isdn | Fabzgy03:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about isdn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:48
ToHellWithGAFabzgy: yeh03:48
Merchelo!info isdn03:48
ubotuPackage isdn does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:48
ToHellWithGAyou could download the package and put it on a thumbdrive/disk/what-have you03:48
ToHellWithGAsudo dpkg-i package_name.deb03:48
ToHellWithGAit will then tell you of dependencies, you must get them03:48
FabzgyI ve got a USB stick... right now I m online with knoppix live CD03:48
ToHellWithGArinse, lather, repeat03:49
ToHellWithGAbbl, gotta teach science03:49
magic_ninja at times my internet goes down (i use cable via dhcp), and i have to sudo ifdown then sudo ifup it for it to work, is there a way I can make a script to do that for me to put on my girlfriend's account (she doesn't have admin access)03:49
magic_ninjafabzgy: what are you trying to install03:50
ToHellWithGAmagic_ninja: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart03:50
ToHellWithGAand/or sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart03:50
ToHellWithGAthat does ifdown, ifup03:51
FabzgyI m trying to run ISDN on my Computer but I ve got no Inet when I m on ubuntu...03:51
magic_ninjaToHellWithGA: i can't do that, she doesn't have admin access and i'm not willing to give her it03:51
magic_ninjais there a way to just give her access to networking commands03:52
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cyrisHey everyone. What is the min cpu speed required to run Xubunut? I'm currently running edubuntu on a duron 800mhz with 512mb of ram, but its somewhat slow.04:29
j1mchi cyris:  that info is found on: http://xubuntu.org/get04:33
j1mcthere isn't a minimum speed, just a minimum amount of RAM.04:33
cyrisyes i read that before coming here, i was hoping that someone would answer saying they run xubuntu on slower machines then the one im trying to get going04:34
j1mccyris: i doubt you'll find anything to be lightning fast with that processor, but xubuntu should be snappy enough.04:34
j1mcoh, yes . . .   i've run xubuntu on a 900mhz PIII, but it only had 256k of ram.  it was fast enough.04:35
j1mcothers have run xubuntu on lesser machines.04:35
j1mcXfce is noticeably faster than gnome or kde on lesser machines.04:35
cyrissounds good, i'll give it a go this morning04:35
j1mcgood luck!04:35
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cyrisj1mc: run any ubuntu based machines that have wireless cards?04:40
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cyrisI'm looking at the supported cards list ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink ) and I'm hoping the comments are correct for the dlink dwl-520+04:40
shmillhey guys04:40
cyrisI want a card that will work out of the install.04:41
shmillif i tell you my general system specs... can you tell me if i should use Xubuntu or Ubuntu?04:41
shmillno, i meant i want to consider my system performance, not compability04:42
shmillanyone?04:43
j1mccyris: yeah . . . look for one with an atheros chipset.04:44
pleia2cyris: prism2 and04:44
pleia2orinoco_cs04:44
pleia2are good too04:44
cyrisso the dwl-520+ is atheros correect?04:44
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j1mccyris: sorry, at work.  don't have time to check now.  :(04:47
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shmilli have a rather old computer: Duron 4 1.3ghz 512ram --> should i use ubuntu or xubuntu?04:51
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shmillanyone here?04:54
j1mcshmill: you could use either.04:54
j1mci've run both xubuntu and ubuntu on a PIII with 256mb of RAM.  Xubuntu was a little faster, but Ubuntu was ok, too.04:55
shmillah l04:55
shmillk04:55
shmillbecause i dont know if i should use xubuntu or ubuntu.04:55
j1mcshmill: it depends on what you'll use it for.  ubuntu is more full-featured, but xubuntu provides solid core functionality, and you can always add on more applications.04:56
j1mcshmill: what will you use it for?04:56
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shmillgeneral desktop04:56
shmillmostly programming04:56
shmillwatching tv episodes/movies, internet, etc04:56
shmillmusic04:56
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shmilloops04:57
j1mcshmill: np.  :)04:58
j1mchmmmmm....04:58
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shmilldid you say something before i left?04:58
j1mcshmill: no . . .   still thinking =)04:58
shmillah04:58
shmillmeanwhile04:58
shmillis there a chance the live-cd version missing features that the installed version has?04:58
shmille.g. connecting to the internet through broadband (network card)|?04:58
j1mcshmill: no . . .  not really.04:59
shmillok04:59
shmillso how do you set a broadband connection in xubuntu?04:59
shmill(i'm not using it right now)04:59
j1mcdo you have a router?04:59
shmillumm no04:59
shmilljust a lan modem04:59
shmillROTAL RTA1320a04:59
j1mchmmm... how do you connect to the internet now?04:59
shmillwait.. that's a router modem i think.04:59
shmillsame method04:59
shmillno network, two computers switch modem :D05:00
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j1mcwhat OS are you on now, and are you having trouble connecting to the internet?05:00
shmillxp sp205:00
shmilli'm not 'having trouble'05:00
shmilli just dont know how to connect to the internet :d05:00
j1mcwhat do you do to connect to the internet in XP?05:00
shmillsec05:01
shmillwan miniport (pppoe)05:02
shmill"broadband"05:02
j1mcah, you'll need to install a pppoe package to connect to the internet in xubuntu or ubuntu.05:03
shmillah.05:04
shmillhow do i do that without internet connection? D:05:04
j1mci think you can do it w/o an internet connection . . . or, maybe it's installed already (sorry . . .).  google for pppoe +ubuntu05:05
j1mcsee what you come up with05:05
shmillkay thanks05:05
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Rich_li_nyXubuntu 6.10  ...  Resolution changes to 640*480 or something.. and when I go to change it back to normal only choice listed is "Default".   How do I set my resolution and make it permanently stay that way for myself and other users?  Its seems this happens every few days for apparently no reason at all.  (this last instance was after install a package but I don't think that was the cause).05:43
darrendhuzzah!05:45
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soberonGood day... Please How can I to add a printer to my Xubuntu?05:57
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aboyousif!printer | soberon05:58
ubotusoberon: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows05:58
soberonThere is not an app in Xubuntu?05:59
aboyousifsoberon, try to run system-config-printer06:00
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soberonYes I did it, and read the help; but says that is for a printer previously configured and I can not find an app for do it as in Ubuntu06:02
Rich_li_nyXubuntu 6.10  ...  Resolution changes to 640*480 or something.. and when I go to change it back to normal only choice listed is "Default".   How do I set my resolution and make it permanently stay that way for myself and other users?  Its seems this happens every few days for apparently no reason at all.  (this last instance was after install a package but I don't think that was the cause).06:04
Rich_li_nyEverything on my monitor is gigantic.. and i cant  change it at all now :(06:04
Rich_li_nyActually using another pc now.. cuase mine is barely usable.06:05
soberonRich_li_ny... Did you tryed sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?06:06
Rich_li_nyIve tried it in the past.. and it didnt help..06:07
Rich_li_nyI will try it again06:08
soberonI had the same problem and fix it that way06:08
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gadiushello people, sorry if my english is no good06:09
gadiusI have a little problem using Xubuntu, but I think it is independent06:09
gadiusdo you know why Synaptic don't search?06:10
gadiusI mean, i write "xmms", and it doesn't show nathing06:10
soberonBecause xmms is not in the default repositories06:11
gadiusthanks, sobreon, I have universe and multiverse repositories yet06:12
soberonYou must go to repositories and add the others options, and refresh; so xmms will appears06:12
gadiusI have been using Xubuntu long time, and this is the first time that it happens xD06:13
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ml--anyone knows of a cli webcam application?06:14
soberonThis is my first time with xubuntu and my only trouble is that I can not print06:14
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gadiusok, thnaks anyway06:14
soberongood look06:14
gadiusthanks ;D06:15
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gadiusnobody more speaks here? xD06:15
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maxownzsup06:15
sunnypiesHow bad does my computer need to be to install xubuntu?06:15
j1mcgadius: sorry, working06:15
sunnypiesto anyone06:15
j1mcsunnypies: haha  how bad?06:15
j1mcwhat are your specs?06:16
Rich_li_nysoberon: Thanks.... I think I was typing the command in incorrectly.. Looks like I should get it going now :)06:16
gadius j1mc: nathing xD06:16
sunnypiesits a laptop with 256 mb ram and about 50 gig hard drive06:16
j1mcxubuntu does run on good computers, too.  :)06:16
sunnypiesprocessor is not real fast06:16
arosunnypies, xubuntu can be useful on things other than "bad" computers06:16
j1mcsunnypies: that should be great.  i've run xubuntu on a PIII 900mhz with 256 ram.  xubuntu worked well.06:16
h3sp4wnsunnypies: That will be fine - how experienced are you on linux ?06:16
maxownzsunnypies: i have 400mhz and 64mb of ram06:17
maxownz6gb hd06:17
sunnypiescoo06:17
maxownzi got it to install06:17
ml--sunnypies: http://www.xubuntu.com/get#requirements06:17
gadiusyes, I hvave pentium 4 512 ram nvidia and i am very happy xD06:17
sunnypiesnice,  I want to put it on my wifes laptop, windows is slowing her way down06:17
gadiusi work better on xfce that in gnome06:17
sunnypiesis xfce graphical?06:17
sunnypiesgui06:17
aroYes06:17
gadiusyes06:17
Rich_li_nySunnypies.. that should be fine.. its doesn't have to be a bad computer to work.  I have it installed on modern machines as well as dinosaurs and relics.06:18
sunnypiesand it does come with openoffice?06:18
darrendsunnypies: http://www.xfce.org/06:18
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darrendI run it on very high spec h/w06:18
aroEven if it isn't defaulted with openoffice, it's easy enough to add it06:18
gadiusat the beginig not06:18
darrendsome people just prefer it06:18
gadiusyou can install it easily06:19
j1mcsunnypies: aro is correct.  it doesn't come with it installed by default, but you can install it with one command or by using synaptic.06:19
soberonAnybody has added and configured a printer to xubuntu?... How is it done please?06:19
grazie!printer | soberon06:20
ubotusoberon: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows06:21
graziesoberon: if you have an hp printer you can use hplip rather thab cups06:21
grazie!info hplip | soberon06:22
ubotusoberon: hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 605 kB, installed size 2776 kB06:22
ml--how do i see all attached devices?06:22
soberonThanks but What app is used?... as in ubuntu06:22
h3sp4wnor you can use lpr / lpd06:23
h3sp4wn(Well I use it with my hp)06:23
maxownzif i build a custom kernel with the bare essentials will it run than the default on my ancient machine?06:23
sunnypiesthank you all for advising =)06:24
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soberonI have cups installed, but I do not know how to add a printer06:25
gadiuswell, thanks all06:25
gadiusbye!06:25
h3sp4wnsoberon: are you using dapper / edgy / feisty ?06:26
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h3sp4wnI think it has a webserver listening iirc on localhost06:26
soberon6.0606:26
grazieindeed >> http://localhost:631/06:27
Rich_li_nysoberon:  Whooooooo hooooooooooo   I have a usable PC again.. :)06:28
soberonI am glad for you06:28
Rich_li_nyThanks a bunch.. and since the config file was just rewritten.. it 'should' stay that way for a while.06:28
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soberonNo guidance for printing??06:38
j1mcsoberon: sorry, i'm at work now, and can't help.  :(06:39
soberonNo problem... thanks06:39
soberonsee you06:39
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sunnypiesJust a question, why would someone want to use Xubuntu rather than Ubuntu if they have a power-house machine?06:42
h3sp4wnbecause gnome sucks06:43
pleia2sunnypies: some of us like xfce more than gnome06:43
sunnypiesoh ok, I'm not familiar with xfce, whats the difference with that and gnome?06:43
sunnypiesI love learning =)06:44
maxownzi thought xubuntu offered gnome and kde?06:44
h3sp4wnYou can run kde or gnome apps in xfce06:44
maxownzbut you aren't actually running kde or gnome?06:44
h3sp4wnNo you are running xfce06:45
pleia2maxownz: under the hood the only difference between the *ubuntus are which window manager you're running, so if you're running Gnome you're running Ubuntu, if you're running KDE you're Kubuntu ,etc06:45
maxownzah06:46
sunnypiesso what's the difference between xfce and gnome?  just that one uses nautilis?06:46
sunnypiesanyone?06:47
maxownzlearning like you ;)06:47
h3sp4wngnome has all sorts of "features" that consume system resources and for me achieve very little06:47
sunnypiesoh ok06:47
sunnypiesh3sp4wn, so you just install the programs you actually use with Xubuntu06:48
h3sp4wnI don't use any gnome programs06:48
h3sp4wnI use amarok - and the rest are just X programs06:48
sunnypiesh3sp4wn, what is amarok?  and are X programs have a gui?06:48
h3sp4wnamarok is a kde media player06:49
h3sp4wnX programs have a gui yes06:49
sunnypiesh3sp4wn, so what the difference between a x program and a gnome program since they both have guis06:49
h3sp4wnActually I only use xterm or urxvt - and terminal stuff06:49
h3sp4wngnome programs need loads of libraries06:50
pleia2sunnypies: different developers, different features06:50
h3sp4wnI don't like any gui applications that are not in a compiled language either06:50
pleia2you have a lot of choices for what apps you want to use in Linux to do most things..06:50
sunnypiesroger06:50
h3sp4wn(Finally got to the stage where we have enough power for a computer to feel lightning fast - I would rather it feel like that than wasting power on perl / python / ruby applications etc06:51
maxownzso h3sp4wn would you say you run a minimalist system?06:51
h3sp4wnNot that minimalistic06:51
sunnypieswhats your system h3?06:52
h3sp4wndual core athlon x2 / 2gb ram / nvidia / decent 320gb sata disk ?06:52
maxownzi'm trying to build something that is very basic - web, email, office, maybe a few simple games, maybe some multimedia apps06:53
h3sp4wnfluxbox is lighter than xfce06:53
h3sp4wn(I use a mixture of sometimes e17 sometimes xfce)06:53
maxownzbecause my system is very old and virtually non-upgradable06:54
graziemaxownz: if you've 128m ram or more xubuntu is worth a look. if you've got less then DSL or similar would be better in my opinion06:56
maxownzso i want to learn how to compile a custom kernel so i can cut out a bunch of unwanted, unneeded stuff06:56
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hyper_chhiho06:56
maxownz64mb ram :(06:57
maxownzwhat is DSL? (i'm guessing you aren't talking about the internet service)06:58
hyper_chmaxownz: you can run xubuntu on 64mb ram... but I would advice against it...06:58
maxownzhaha yea i have it running right now06:58
hyper_chmaxownz: DSL --> DamnSmallLinux06:58
maxownzah06:58
hyper_chmaxownz: you could install fluxbox as Window Manager on a ubuntu server install06:58
maxownzthen install openoffice, firefox, thunderbird to use with fluxbox?06:59
hyper_chmaxownz: yes, but OOo is VERY slow on that07:00
graziei wouldn't try openoffice with 64mb ram07:00
hyper_chgrazie: it works... I did it on a 10 year old notebook... well, not 10 year old.. had a P1 233mhz processor with 64mb ram07:00
hyper_chgrazie: but it's crawling slow07:00
maxownzis there something simpler than openoffice that could edit doc and spreadsheets07:01
h3sp4wnI would use something based on uclibc with 64mb ram07:01
hyper_chmaxownz: abiword and gnumeric07:01
hyper_chmaxownz: you should them have already in xubuntu07:01
maxownzsure do07:02
maxownzso should i look into ubuntu server + fluxbox or rebuild a smaller xubuntu kernel07:05
hyper_chI'd go for DSL07:06
maxownzthen i can choose which gui i want?07:06
h3sp4wnI would go for ucrux07:06
maxownzlooks like DSL comes with Fluxbox and JWM window managers07:07
hyper_chucrux... haven't heard of that yet07:07
maxownzwould wireless be a problem with DSL?07:07
hyper_chcould be... depending on your wifi adapter07:08
hyper_chdo you have a cd-rw?07:08
maxownznot in the machine i want to turn unix but i have in other computers lying around07:09
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h3sp4wnAlot of the wireless drivers don't support 2.407:10
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hyper_chmaxownz: then just download the DSL Live CD, run it nd you'll see whether your wifi adapter works07:11
maxownzhaha simple enough07:11
hyper_chthat's why I said cd-rw ^^07:11
maxownz?07:11
hyper_chcd-rw --> you can try lots of stuff and not waste piles of cd-r :)07:13
maxownzoo ur sayin burn the DSL Live CD to a cd-rw instead of a cd-r07:13
hyper_chyes, if the cd-drive of the notebook can handle cd-rw then you can test-drive it... if it works it's good... if not, then you just blank the cd-rw and you have not wasted a cd-r07:14
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hyper_ch*smile*07:16
maxownzyea i feel ya07:16
hyper_chmaxownz: you see when I started with linux... I sort of just downloaded more or less any distro I could find to test on cd-r... so in the end I had a pile of those that I really don't need... I should have used cd-rw from the beginnin07:17
maxownzhaha i know what you mean07:17
maxownzi have a spindle of distros when i started playin in hs07:17
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h3sp4wnI have grml on a 1gb usb key - I can install any distro from there07:22
hyper_chh3???07:23
hyper_chh3sp4wn: ?07:23
h3sp4wngrml its a live distro07:24
h3sp4wn(only decent one I know of actually for its use)07:24
hyper_chh3sp4wn: ah... I have DSL on my stick :)07:24
h3sp4wnIt has zsh - good screen configuration07:25
h3sp4wnjust what I want on a live cd07:25
hyper_chzsh?07:25
hyper_ch!zsh07:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zsh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:25
h3sp4wnhttp://grml.org/zsh/07:26
h3sp4wn!info zsh07:26
ubotuzsh: A shell with lots of features. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.2-25ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2169 kB, installed size 6528 kB07:26
hyper_chwith lots of features ^^07:26
h3sp4wntab completion for almost everything07:26
hyper_ch:)07:27
hyper_chnice07:27
BFTDI use Puppy07:27
hyper_chI have an important question.... what shall I go get for dinner07:28
maxownzits friday - pizza07:28
hyper_chI guess I'm going to get pizza then :)07:28
hyper_chbtw, is a sys reboot required after upgrading HAL?07:30
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BFTDhyper_ch nope07:31
hyper_chBFTD: good :)07:31
BFTDat least not for me07:32
hyper_chafter the power outage yesterday my uptime was reduced to 0 :(07:32
BFTDpwn'd!!07:32
hyper_chSysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running Xfce 4.4.0, CPU: AMD Sempron 2400+ at 1683 MHz (3371 bogomips), HD: 238/897GB, RAM: 989/1010MB, 142 proc's, 12.15h up07:33
hyper_ch:(07:33
hyper_chsunnypies: /sysinfo in Konversation07:35
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pilotkevinhey guys\07:37
pilotkevinhow can i download the PPPoe package outside linux? (i have an adsl connection through a router modem, i think, so i need to get pppoe installed)07:38
hyper_chpilotkevin: good question...07:39
pilotkevinand the answer? :P\07:39
pilotkevinah http://packages.ubuntu.com/07:40
hyper_chhmmm, the answer would be ask h3sp4wn or BFTD or TheSheep ^^07:40
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godlessanybody use adesklets?07:59
hyper_chyes07:59
godlessAnyway to get yab to stay on top?08:00
hyper_chyab?08:01
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fluggerI'm having multiple problems with xubuntu, I cannot open the terminal..it restarts xfce everytime I try. Synaptic will not let me mark anything for installation either.08:02
cjaehi does anyone have a plextor optical drive and does it now work after the HAL update08:03
cjaeor work better??08:04
godlesshyper_ch:  The launchbar desklet.. anyway to keep any desklet always on top? I'm sure I could adapt the method.08:05
cjaeI don't understand how my hitachi/LG drive can work so good as compared to a plextor drive??08:05
hyper_chgodless: I don't know what you mean08:05
hyper_chcjae: LG produces good devices08:06
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h3sp4wnplextor's new stuff is no better than anyone elses08:06
cjaehyper_ch, and plextor does not08:06
h3sp4wn(they used to be higher quality but now you just pay for the name)08:06
cjaei see08:07
cjaeanyone know about the whole having to put an audio disc in before to get a dvd to play08:07
cjaethis was rectified by the HAL update08:08
hyper_chI remember when plextor had the first burn-free device08:08
cjaebut now it crashes gxine08:08
cjaeand I tried with VLC and that does not work as well08:08
cjaebut if I put it in the LG drive voila08:09
cjaeand gxine does not crash08:09
cjaethis suck though because my plextor is my dvd burner the LG is only cd/rw08:10
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cjaeis plextor the only one that can update firmware by holding the eject button and the  putting the firmware iso in it?08:12
cjaeI mean like OS independent08:13
cjaeand how good is lite on as compared to the others??08:14
h3sp4wnI have a lighton sata drive here - seems fine08:14
cjaethis really sucks cause I bought this drive so it would function well under linux and it sucks more than most wtf08:15
h3sp4wncertain there is not something else wrong - wonky cable etc08:15
cjaehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/2731608:16
ubotuLaunchpad bug 27316 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Plextor DVD-RW drives do not detect DVDs properly until an audio CD is inserted" [Medium,Confirmed] 08:16
cjaeoh the you go08:16
cjaethere08:16
h3sp4wnlooks like it only exists in dapper08:16
cjaeon it was in xubuntu till the HAL upgrade this morning08:17
h3sp4wnwhich hal upgrade ?08:17
cjaeNow this is what I get The xine engine failed to start.08:18
cjaeNo plugin was found maybe the file does not exist or cannot be found please check url08:19
cjaeput the same dvd in LG wham bam thank you mam08:20
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cjaesorry not familiar with synaptic or apt-get could you tell me how to check08:21
cjaeUpgraded the following packages:08:22
cjaehal (0.5.8.1-4ubuntu12) to 0.5.9-1ubuntu2~feisty108:22
cjaektorrent (2.1-0ubuntu2) to 2.1.4-0ubuntu1~feisty108:22
cjaelibhal-storage1 (0.5.8.1-4ubuntu12) to 0.5.9-1ubuntu2~feisty108:22
cjaelibhal1 (0.5.8.1-4ubuntu12) to 0.5.9-1ubuntu2~feisty108:22
Catoptromancy!pastebin08:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:23
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cjaesorry I just didn't think it would be so bad cause no else seems to be speaking08:24
Catoptromancynot real bad, If I have more than 2-3 lines pastebin is alwasy good08:24
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cjaeCatoptromancy, ok it will08:25
cjaesorry that should say I will08:25
Catoptromancylooks like those packages are already upgraded08:25
cjaeyeah but my drive still fails it also has the latest firmware as well08:26
Catoptromancyhow does it fail?08:27
cjaeI am very stumped I guess I should'nt say latest cause after I said that elsewhere there was a new update they were like 4 days apart(plextor)08:27
cjaeOk first it would not recognize the dvd (only video like movie/mpeg dvds) regular dvds(data) worked fine08:28
Catoptromancyhmm I should scroll up once in awhile heh08:28
Catoptromancydid it seem like a codec missing?08:29
Catoptromancyfor an error message08:29
CatoptromancyI had to install a ton of codecs to get Kaffine working right08:30
Catoptromancywith pretty much everything08:30
cjaeI also have the libdvdcss while seems to be getting a little tattered anyway, I would just say blank disc on the desktop icon and  opening would just show vobs and such08:30
Catoptromancy1 DVD I had I couldnt play08:31
cjaethat should say it instead of I08:31
CatoptromancyMovie, dais it was write proected08:31
Catoptromancysaid*08:32
cjaeIt is madagascar08:32
CatoptromancyI could open the the DVD, and look at the files08:32
Catoptromancybut it wouldnt play08:32
cjaetrying to make backup cause this is the second one I have bought cause kids scratch the hell out of them08:32
maxownzanyone in here know php?08:33
CatoptromancyTry another DVD, it mgiht be Copy-protected08:33
cjaethe funny thing is I put it in the LG and works automagically08:33
CatoptromancyLG a moive?08:34
cjaewouldn't libdvdcss fix that on a that on a two year old movie08:34
cjaeLG is the optical drive08:34
cjaeit is just a dvd reader though08:34
Catoptromancyhmm drivers maybe?08:35
cjaehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/2731608:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 27316 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Plextor DVD-RW drives do not detect DVDs properly until an audio CD is inserted" [Medium,Confirmed] 08:35
EspadaV8hi, what's the login managed in xubuntu? and how do i configure it?08:36
EspadaV8*manager08:36
cjaecan codecs be attached to devices08:37
Catoptromancythey are general08:37
Catoptromancyshared devices use them08:37
Catoptromancyif its installed it should find it08:38
CatoptromancyEspadaV8, menu settings, login window08:38
cjaeCatoptromancy, well it works in the other device??08:38
h3sp4wnEspadaV8: gdm08:38
cjaeI am so frustrated08:38
Catoptromancyseems like a bug that you posted08:38
EspadaV8ah, thanks Catoptromancy and h3sp4wn08:38
cjaeCatoptromancy, think it is just ubuntu08:39
cjaeor is it kernel??08:39
CatoptromancyLaunchpad bug 27316 in linux-source-2.6.1508:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 27316 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Plextor DVD-RW drives do not detect DVDs properly until an audio CD is inserted" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/2731608:39
h3sp4wnLooks like it only exists with dapper08:39
Catoptromancynot using Feisty?08:40
Catoptromancycjae08:40
cjaeyes I am using feisty08:40
h3sp4wnso a bug in 2.6.15 shouldn't affect you08:40
h3sp4wncjae: what does 'uname -r' say08:41
cjaeand I did the audio thing first and it would at lest recognize the dvd08:41
cjae2.6.20-15-generic08:41
cjaethink I need to recompile???08:42
h3sp4wnThis has only just started ?08:43
cjaeit was a fresh install08:43
cjaezero filled and started clean08:43
h3sp4wnbut it worked prior to the hal update ?08:44
cjaeno worked worst08:44
cjaeworse08:44
cjaeh3sp4wn, sorry I should type your name cause you may have the beep enabled08:45
h3sp4wnI am more likely to notice if you do08:45
cjaeh3sp4wn, would only open the disc desktop icon would say blank media I mean blank disc08:46
cjaeh3sp4wn, quote from the bug post "I don't have another drive spare to test with unfortunately. The problem exists with all video DVDs (I haven't tried with a data DVD though). I am able to use mplayer/xine to play the DVDs without having to insert an audio CD, it just seems to be Hal that gets confused." so that's why I thought it was just HAL08:48
cjaeopps08:48
h3sp4wnhmm, you don't have to use hal or dbus08:49
cjae!info dbus08:50
ubotudbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.2-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 342 kB, installed size 708 kB08:50
cjae!info hal08:50
ubotuhal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.8.1-4ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 543 kB, installed size 1512 kB08:50
h3sp4wnprobably removing either of those will remove xubuntu desktop though08:51
cjaeh3sp4wn, what do you think I should do??08:51
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cjaetired another disc nothing same crash08:52
cjaewow does my spelling/typing suck08:53
cjaeh3sp4wn, ok but in I do not just let gxine open and play it with vlc an the plaextor drive it works08:54
h3sp4wnsudo update-rc.d -f dbus remove08:55
cjaewow08:55
h3sp4wnTrying to work out how hald gets started08:56
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cjaeh3sp4wn, not trying to be rude but this system is fairly stable,and I have been bouncing from distro to distro are you sure??08:56
h3sp4wnYou don't need dbus08:57
h3sp4wnor hald08:57
h3sp4wnIf you can play manually (and know how to do it) then it won't make any difference to you08:57
cjaeso you would like me to do that08:58
cjaeh3sp4wn,08:58
h3sp4wnI don't know if you would like to do it then do it08:59
cjaeok I tried the madagascar disc in there again and the desktop icon comes up but vlc fails with it too09:00
cjaeh3sp4wn,09:01
cjaeh3sp4wn, sorry this is like my 5 time on irc09:01
h3sp4wnhave you removed the dbus startup scripts ?09:01
h3sp4wns/scripts/links09:02
cjaeI did the above command09:03
cjaeI will try again09:03
h3sp4wnrun sudo /etc/init.d/dbus stop09:03
cjaeok09:04
h3sp4wnps -efH | egrep hal\|dbus09:06
cjaeh3sp4wn, ok did that now VLC does not have a /dev listing09:06
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h3sp4wnCan you not just use open disk09:07
cjaehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20385/09:08
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Tidook, I'm retarded.  Somehow I've borked xfce badly.  It won't load the desktop, no icons, no applications menu09:08
Tidoand I have no idea why09:08
Tidoany suggestions?09:08
cjaeh3sp4wn, you mean in VLC09:09
h3sp4wncjae: yes - don't know why you need /dev there09:09
cjaeopen disc I always have needed a /dev/ listing there09:10
cjaeh3sp4wn, I think cause I have two optical09:10
h3sp4wnjust type in the device you want to use09:11
cjaeh3sp4wn, I know I tried09:11
h3sp4wnare you in the correct group ?09:12
cjaeh3sp4wn, do you get the pastebin09:12
h3sp4wnyes09:12
h3sp4wnjust not sure whether just killing those will exit xfce or not09:12
h3sp4wnsudo kill 5565 556609:13
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cjaeh3sp4wn,  sorry just hang one sec please09:15
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h3sp4wncjae: no I need to go somewhere back in a bit09:15
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cjaeh3sp4wn, just killed xchat and the channel list09:18
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Tidodid anyone see my question? I'm dying here :(09:28
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TidoI'll reprint if it's off your screen09:30
Tidowhen xfce loads, one of the menus comes up, but no icons on the desktop come up, or the desktop itself.  Also the applications menu is gone.09:31
Tidodoes anyone know what would cause this?09:32
Catoptromancyright click desktop?09:35
Catoptromancyor a task bar09:35
Catoptromancyin task bar09:35
Tidohas no response09:35
Catoptromancy"add new item" and select menu09:35
Catoptromancyhmmm09:35
Catoptromancyhmmm09:36
cjaealt f2??09:37
Tidoalt f2 works09:37
cjaexfce4-panel09:37
Tidodoesn't seem to do anything09:37
Tidohang on I might have it solved09:39
Tidolets see if it survives a reboot09:39
cjaeor did you muk up panel manager settings09:40
Tidoit was xfdesktop09:40
Tidosomehow it got messed up09:40
Tidobut I purged it and reinstalled09:40
Tidothen ran and it seems to be ok now09:40
Tidooh09:41
Tidoexcept09:41
Tidoapplicants menu is still gone09:41
cjaeyou can add that09:41
Tidoyeah, just did09:41
Tidook, well, disaster averted for now, but I wish I knew how that happened09:42
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Shaba1Hello all09:44
Shaba1anyone here?09:45
sunnypiesoi09:45
sunnypieshellp09:45
Shaba1Hello sunnypies09:45
sunnypiesShaba1, having a wonderful friday?09:45
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ntslabSysinfo for 'nts61': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)XeonCPU1.70GHz at 1680 MHz (3361 bogomips), , RAM: 982/1010MB, 124 proc's, 5.45h up09:46
Tidooh, also, how can I make a user that doesn't need a password to login?09:47
sunnypiesTido, Just don't add a password hit next or continue09:47
Tidoit errors out and says password must be at least 6 characters09:48
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kalikianaboje, Turn that away script of yours off, please.10:03
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soberonGood afternoon... A question: There are in Xubuntu a directory named /hotplug/firmware??10:21
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tero_Hi! I need help upgrading from dapper10:39
h3sp4wn!upgrade10:39
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes10:39
tero_I tried with update-manager but it told me that i need one of the *buntu-desktop packages10:40
tero_however I can't install any of them since slocate won't install10:40
tero_this is what I get from apt-get10:42
tero_(Reading database ... 92917 files and directories currently installed.)10:42
tero_Unpacking slocate (from .../slocate_3.0.beta.r3-1ubuntu0.1_i386.deb) ...10:42
tero_Removing `diversion of /etc/cron.daily/find to /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate by slocate'10:42
tero_dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/etc/cron.daily/find' with10:42
tero_  different file `/etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate', not allowed10:42
tero_dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/slocate_3.0.beta.r3-1ubuntu0.1_i386.deb (--unpack):10:42
tero_ subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 210:42
tero_Errors were encountered while processing:10:42
tero_ /var/cache/apt/archives/slocate_3.0.beta.r3-1ubuntu0.1_i386.deb10:42
tero_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:42
tero_!upgrade10:42
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes10:42
h3sp4wn!info slocate dapper10:42
ubotuslocate: Secure replacement of findutil's locate. In component main, is extra. Version 3.0.beta.r3-1ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 152 kB10:43
h3sp4wntero_: Checked launchpad ?10:45
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h3sp4wnShouldn't need to use force on dapper10:46
tero_whats launchpad10:46
h3sp4wn!launchpad10:47
ubotulaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/10:47
h3sp4wn!bugs10:47
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots10:47
tero_I'll try that10:49
Shaba1hello10:49
Shaba1anyone know and easy vnc client and server for linux that will connect and can be connected to a windwos machine?10:49
cjaeh3sp4wn, are you back I guess10:52
cjaeh3sp4wn, how do I put that startup script back10:52
h3sp4wnupdate-rc.d10:52
cjaedoes that just start all the scripts up again, didn't I just remove it?10:53
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h3sp4wnNo10:53
h3sp4wnjust stopped the startup scripts - I didn't tell you to remove it10:54
cjaesudo update-rc.d -f dbus remove10:55
cjaeis what you told me to do10:55
h3sp4wnexactly10:55
h3sp4wnsudo update-rc.d dbus defaults10:55
cjaeassume I got to restart wm??10:56
h3sp4wnjust start it up again sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start10:56
h3sp4wnthen restart the wm10:56
cjaethat what I meant sorry10:57
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cjaeI did sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start10:57
cjaebefore would that have worked10:57
h3sp4wn?10:58
cjaeanyway, I lost all my desktop icons on monitor and tv out10:58
cjaeI meant before I asked you10:59
h3sp4wnThat is nothing to do with that though10:59
cjaeoh that is daemons and not start up scripts right?10:59
kalikianaIs someone in here fluent in Spanish, to review a short text?10:59
cjaeh3sp4wn, ??11:00
h3sp4wnI am confused as to what you mean11:00
cjae/etc/init.d is for what will run in the init level I  am in right??11:01
cjaelike init 3 or 411:02
h3sp4wnNot 100% sure what upstart does11:02
h3sp4wnwith regards to runlevels11:02
cjaeupstart??11:02
h3sp4wnubuntu replaced init in edgy11:03
cjaeI thought I read that somewhere11:03
cjaeso what is it now11:03
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cjaeI gotta reboot wm old lady wants to watch movie11:05
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rennershi can I get some help installing xubuntu please?11:09
grazierenners: what's the problem?11:10
aboyousifrenners, how much you will pay ? :D11:10
rennersI'm trying to install over a previous kubuntu installation.... but I keep getting disk errors... i think because the kubuntu partion is mounted but every time I unmount it, something remounts it!11:10
grazierenners: if you're getting disk errors you most likely have a disk problem. What errors?11:12
Pumpernickelbug 10725911:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10725911:13
rennersnot disk errors... kubuntu installed no problem... I'm using option to use entire disk hda11:13
rennersi thaink that's it ubotu!11:13
grazierenners: if you read the bug report there's most likely a workaround11:14
rennersyep, trying it now thanks11:14
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skydehello11:17
graziehi there11:17
skydesome one know why the install froze on (detecting hardwar)11:18
skydein fact it is not frozen it only make 30 minute it is at 90%11:19
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kalikianaskyde, Actually it'S often the case that a second try with the same options will work.11:19
kalikianaI don't know why, though.11:19
skydetanks11:20
skydei will wait a little11:20
skydebut it realy seem to do nothing11:20
grazieskyde: are you using alternate or desktop cd?11:20
skydedekstop11:21
skydenow it say selecting package to remove11:21
skydei think it work only it was slow11:21
graziedoes alt+ctrl+f1 give you a console?11:21
skydeyes11:21
skydei seem to install well11:22
skydei am now at 95%11:22
skydesorry11:22
graziegood news ... no problem11:22
skydei dont know why it is soo slow11:23
skydebut if it work11:23
skyde:)11:23
sunnypiesquestion:  I just installed mtpaint   i can load by typing mtpain in terminal, how do i put an icon of it in the Applications list???11:24
skydeit now remove a lot of package11:24
skydeit might be for that reason11:24
skydewith the menu editor11:24
skydein setting11:25
skydemenu editor11:25
graziesunnypies: not sure what you mean by "put an icon of it in the Applications list"11:28
skydei wish to have a button to start it11:29
skydelike a link on windows11:29
skyde:P11:29
skydehe not i11:29
graziesunnypies: if you want an Applications menu entry you'll need to create a mtpaint.desktop file in /usr/share/applications11:31
graziesunnypies: if you wan11:31
graziesunnypies: if you want an icon on the panel then right click the panel and select "Add New Item"11:32
sunnypiescool, I just right clicked on ubuntu11:32
sunnypiesand clicked edit menu11:32
sunnypiesand did it that way11:32
graziek11:33
cjaehow do I enable more tty (guis)11:33
sunnypiesthanks11:33
cjaelike ctl alt f811:33
cjaethrough f1211:34
cjaeohla11:35
CatoptromancyAnyone happen to know how to use a .diff11:39
CatoptromancyI need to patch a program before I compile it11:39
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rennersthanks for help earlier, peeps, I'm now talking from a working hd install!11:43
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cjaehow do I enable more tty (guis)11:49
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Gerroneed to export a .deb to another comp, how do I do that?11:51
Gerrolike I installed something on this comp through synaptic11:51
Gerrobut other one doesn't have internet11:51
cjaedownload the .deb11:52
Gerrofrom where?11:52
Gerrocheck everyone of those repositories for where its getting it from!?11:52
Gerrosynaptic needs an export function..11:53
cjaeI think there are sites from ubuntu that just have  individual deb they may have a search on the page or just use google11:53
Gerroand get it from some random other site11:53
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Gerronever mind found it under packages.ubuntulinux.org/fiesty/11:54
Gerrofeisty I mean11:55
cjaeI meant use google to find the ubuntu site11:56
cjaelike the subdirectories11:57
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skydeexect the desktop what is different in xubuntu11:57
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Fremfont question: Why do the cool old Windows fonts like Arial and Tahoma not display correctly in the interface when I turn off anti-aliasing, hinting, sub-pixel hinting, and all that fun stuff?11:59
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FremI want my desktop to look like this screenshot (http://xfce-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=55632&file1=55632-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Murrina-Rezblue&PHPSESSID=0b5943e9f7cebb8f3e2396e302bf931b) , but the fonts look like they're scaled weird, they don't look nice at all.12:01
kalikianaFrem, 1. When you turn off hinting and anti aliasing most fonts look bad, that's not only about Windows fonts. 2. The link doesn't work for me.12:03
Fremhttp://fremwise.googlepages.com/Screenshot.png12:03
Fremkalikiana, I'm using windows fonts which are supposed to look decent without anti aliasing and hinting.12:04
Fremhttp://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Murrina-Rezblue?content=5563212:04
FremDoh, never mind. Turned on hinting and it got fixed.12:05
kalikianaSee? I was right. ;)12:05
FremYes, yes you were. Thanks. :-)12:06
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