drknsnicon trial and error might work here12:14
Daisuke_Idodsmith_: of course, as soon as i saw Internet Explorer i knew it was BS with the article released today saying they won't even ship WINE on the dell machines12:14
dsmith_hah, you know what your right12:14
dsmith_Shuttleworth did say that12:14
dsmith_you do need wine for that to work12:14
logixoulhi. can anyone help with http://rafb.net/p/B04YKq18.html ? I'm in the Kubuntu LiveCD right now.12:15
Dinoflynicon-: just to be sure: are you expecting kate to open INSIDE the konsole window ?12:15
Daisuke_Idoand if that were actually the desktop they were going to use, they were setting themselves up for failure12:15
drknsok good fellas pls let me know if you know how to fix my wireless card speed to 54mbts/sec rather than 18mbits/sec12:15
dsmith_how come?12:15
dsmith_kinda bland if you ask me12:15
LamingtonI already used Automatix2... Haven't noticed any problems... If I haven't noticed any problems, should I expect any ?12:16
Admiral_Chicagoplease stay on topic. if you aren't asking for help or getting support, please see #kubuntu-offtopic12:16
Daisuke_Idonon-functional and ugly, looks as bad as the packard bell program launcher did back in the 90s12:16
nicon-cannot connect to x server?12:16
LamingtonDidn't realise it was bad12:16
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Daisuke_IdoLamington: i hope you don't have to remove anything12:16
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drknsnicon did you played with your xorg.conf file???12:16
atraxhi everyone12:16
nicon-drkns: nope12:16
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Daisuke_Idodsmith_: while i realize that what i said is purely a subjective view of the desktop, a lot of people would hate it and not know how to change it.12:17
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LamingtonDaisuke_Ido: Why is that ?12:17
drknsbecause i had the same problem while trying to install latest ati driver12:17
nicon-Hm, maybe other problem...12:17
drknsxorg.conf file was the problem12:17
nicon-I did apt-get install banshee...12:17
nicon-And i did install this banshee..12:18
drknswhen i tried ti kate it it said cannot connect to x-server12:18
nicon-But it don't works12:18
nicon-Any idea?12:18
Daisuke_IdoLamington: automatix has a habit of forcing things to install which can cause issues if you have to remove some things12:18
dsmith_Daisuke_Ido: Oh well, learning curve then, like how many windoze users can do the same thing12:18
Dinoflyi see no reasons an app could open using alt-f2 and not using the command line, that makes no sense12:18
Daisuke_Idodsmith_: that's a problem though12:18
dsmith_not for me12:18
LamingtonDaisuke_Ido: Ah i c... I don't recall that it removed anything12:18
nicon-Anybody has test banshee at kubuntu 7.04?12:18
nicon-BTW, sry for my english, i know it's terrible :/12:19
LamingtonWhat is banshee ?12:19
drknsnicon you shouldnt need banshee in kubuntu12:19
LamingtonIt rings a bell but I forget12:19
nicon-drkns: why?12:19
Daisuke_Idoaverage user: "well, i can get a machine with windows installed and i know it already, but what's this?  oh god that's ugly.  why is my entire control panel sitting at the bottom of the desktop?  screw it, i'm getting windows"12:19
drknsi believe it has its counterpart in kubuntu12:19
nicon-drkns: i've installd it bcs it's very such like itunes12:20
logixoulLamington: a gnome media player12:20
logixoulnicon-: try kaffeine12:20
nicon-logixoul: is that looks like itunes?12:20
logixoulnicon-: (kaffeine for video and amarok for audio)12:20
Chris_Swift"main.cpp:1:21: error: windows.h: No such file or directory" So where can I get the Windows.h for Linux well g++ in particular?12:20
logixoulnicon-: no12:20
Daisuke_Idoget amarok and love it :D12:20
nicon-logixoul: ):12:20
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nicon-amarok, now i work on that q;12:20
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nicon-But i need a program what looks like itunes12:20
LamingtonAmarok is great12:20
nicon-I love itunes q;12:20
drknskaffeine suppose to work with ipod12:21
TheDebuggerChris_Swift: There's no windows.h in linux..12:21
Daisuke_Idonicon-: sudo apt-get install amarok12:21
Lamingtonnicon-: How about songbird ?12:21
nicon-drkns: i don't got itunes12:21
Daisuke_Idoif you're already USING kubuntu12:21
logixoulnicon-: try also JuK12:21
Daisuke_Idoyou have it already12:21
Chris_SwiftTheDebugger: So I can't program windows apps in Linux?12:21
nicon-I want to look it like itunes, not to compatible with ipod12:21
LamingtonAmarok connects to Magnatune12:21
nicon-amarok, like i said, now i'm working on that12:21
TheDebuggerChris_Swift: You can, but you won't be able to test your applications12:21
DinoflyChris_Swift: probably using wine12:22
Daisuke_IdoLamington: it has a front end for the magnatune store12:22
LamingtonDaisuke_Ido: yes12:22
nicon-Banshee looks the same like itunes12:22
Chris_SwiftWine'll do but I need to find the sdk for Linux that includes windows.h ...12:22
nicon-That's why i want it12:22
Daisuke_Idonicon-: so install banshee12:22
drknsits pretty late for this old fart so take care fellas and God be with you with all your linux problems12:22
Daisuke_Idosudo apt-get install banshee12:22
nicon-Daisuke_Ido: like i sait, i've installed this banshee12:22
nicon-But it dont work ):12:22
nicon-When i click on it nothings happend12:23
logixoulCan anyone help me with http://rafb.net/p/B04YKq18.html ? I'm in the Kubuntu LiveCD right now. Pretty please :)12:23
LamingtonTried starting it from bash ?12:23
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nicon-Lamington: nope12:23
nicon-Hm, not it works xD12:24
makuseruhi, i have a problem, i had a HP DVD writer and ive tried diffrent programs and diffrent brands of dvds, but it never burns one correctly, i always get errors, someone said K3B had a problem with HP writers, but ive tried more than just k3b, i dont need anything special for hp writers do i?12:24
dsmith_Daisuke_Ido: I left a commant on that site :)12:24
Daisuke_Idologixoul: what filesystem is that?12:24
nicon-But sth is wrong...12:24
nicon-I can't do anything12:24
dsmith_I have a HP laptop and can burn ISOs all day long12:24
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logixoulDaisuke_Ido: ext312:24
navetscan somebody help me set up svideo on kubuntu12:24
logixoulmakuseru: try using K3b as root - rumor has it this solves many problems12:25
LamingtonKDE detected U312:25
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Chris_SwiftHmm, any programmers out there that know of a WIn32 SDK for linux if that makes sense, well I mean a SDK for the Linux g++ but has the windows headers and libs12:26
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MinatakuChris_Swift: MingW12:26
logixoulMinataku: no, that's the other way round12:27
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mingw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:27
MinatakuTBH, I wasn't quite clear what he wanted XD12:27
Chris_Swift!Minataku thanks if it works12:27
MinatakuBTW: I'm not a bot :312:27
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n8k99Minataku: has passed the Turing test12:28
DinoflyChris_Swift: http://www.dumbbell.fr/howto/win32-cross-compilation.en.html12:28
Daisuke_Idoi assure you, Minataku isn't a bot.12:29
cox37777has anyone ever had a grup 18 error?12:29
Daisuke_IdoMinataku: he wants to develop windows software on a linux machine12:29
Chris_SwiftDinofly: Thanks yet again12:29
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: Actually, that's still MinGW12:30
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xhyckoaew galera12:30
xhyckoalguem pode me ajudar?12:30
Minataku!br ! xhycko12:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about br ! xhycko - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:30
Daisuke_Idobut if you want to develop for windows, use windows12:30
Minataku!br | xhycko12:30
ubotuxhycko: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.12:30
Daisuke_Idoknow thy enemy and all that12:30
MinatakuWe prefer if you develop for Linux, of course12:31
Daisuke_Idodon't use a real os to develop for a toy :)12:31
Chris_SwiftI am used to developing Windows apps though...12:31
Daisuke_Idookay, belittlement done.12:31
nicon-K, thx all 4 help12:32
nicon-Bb all12:32
MinatakuOr better yet, don't use or develop for the toy at all12:32
Daisuke_IdoMinataku: touche12:32
nicon-Have a good night12:32
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MinatakuBelittlement never ends. It just gets weaker for a moment or two.12:32
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Chris_SwiftIs it possible to run D3D apps on Linux or not?12:32
logixouluse cedega12:33
lucky_lucasdoes anyone has tested the kde4 alpha 1 packages ?12:33
logixoulPlease help with http://rafb.net/p/B04YKq18.html - trying to resize ext3...12:33
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Admiral_Chicagolucky_lucas: i'm grabbing it now, there isn't too much to see however12:33
Daisuke_Idolucky_lucas: we aren't masochists, no :P12:33
cellfishalright, i think i have a damaged partition12:33
cellfishwhen i deleted my ntfs partition and tried ot change it to an ext3 one, it screwed up and seems irreperable12:34
lucky_lucasI'am all ok about that it's just to setup the environnment12:34
Admiral_Chicagonone of the modules are uploaded from what i have seen12:34
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Daisuke_Idohow the F can you justify writing D3D apps in linux?12:34
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cWolfedoes any one know of a command to check voltages of the power supply? Did I cat something in /proc?12:34
lucky_lucasAdmiral_Chicago: because when I add the line deb blabla posted on the kubuntu website, i get 40412:35
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cellfishdoes anyone know why, when i create a new partition on say /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdb1 is no longer visible when the operation is complete?12:35
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Admiral_Chicagolucky_lucas: feisty?12:35
premier_can programs like gparted safely move files around windows partitions to make them smaller?  Right now I'm considering making my windows partition smaller, but it is up against files listed as "unmovable" by windows defragmenter12:36
Admiral_Chicagodeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1 feisty main12:36
lucky_lucasok thank you12:36
lucky_lucaswhy isn't it written on the website ?12:36
Admiral_Chicagopremier_: defrag your drive in windows first, then resize in12:36
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Admiral_Chicagolucky_lucas: not sure, i'm not in charge of the Kubuntu site, i'll ask around12:36
Daisuke_IdoAdmiral_Chicago: he just said that won't work because the files are marked as unmovable during defrag :)12:37
premier_Admiral_Chicago: fine, but right now there a files at the end of the drive that windows defrag will *not* move.12:37
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Daisuke_Idopremier_: can you set it to defrag at boot?12:37
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Minatakupremier_: Sounds like Microsoft's latest plan to thwart would-be Linux users, to me12:37
lucky_lucasThat's why I came  here too find somebody to fix it12:37
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dogatemycomputerpremier_: as long as windows isn't loaded then the files are movable.  Like linux.. it just doesn't like to relocate files on a mounted partition..12:38
MinatakuStick files at the end of the partition and *censored* people up12:38
lucky_lucasavoiding the trouble a lot of time12:38
dogatemycomputerpremier_: (defrag mounts the partition before defragging so some files are listed as unmovable..)12:39
MinatakuNot to mention the mere fact that NTFS is a total piece of *censored* *censored*12:39
premier_well, anyone who's familiar with windows knows that programs cannot be changed, modified, or removed during run time... its a major cause of failures and a good example of poor OS design12:39
dogatemycomputerMinataku: you go boy!!!12:39
logixoulPlease help with http://rafb.net/p/B04YKq18.html - trying to resize ext3...12:39
Admiral_Chicagohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defrag <-12:39
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Admiral_Chicagomake the files contigious.12:39
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MinatakuOr just nuke the whole Windows partition12:40
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dogatemycomputerlogixoul: was the partition mounted when you tried to resize it?  i've seen that error and booting from the Live CD, installing gparted, unmounting the partition, running a fsck then resizing the partition worked for me.12:41
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dogatemycomputerlogixoul: i've never had a partition I couldn't resize when booting from the live CD and unmounting the partition in question..12:42
logixouldogatemycomputer: Nope, I took care to umount it first. And yeah, I'm in the Live CD. Only thing I haven't done is run fsck manually (cause I thought gparted was doing it for me). I'll try that next, thanks :)12:43
dsmith_is it normal for my swap partition to show as being disabled?12:46
premier_theres a liveCD just for gparted.  Its pretty nice, but I wish it had the ability to do other things like access those file systems.  Is there a system utility live CD?12:46
dogatemycomputerlogixoul: yeah..  i would have thought it would.. and it even says it does.. but maybe something is going wrong with the fsck..12:46
dogatemycomputerpremier_: i've heard of recovery CDs spread throughout the net.. but the LiveCD has always worked for me.  You can even install software from the live CD for temporary use..12:47
premier_what live cd?  kubuntu?12:48
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premier_actually, I have to hack it to get it to run... lousy dell hardware, you see12:48
logixoulpremier_: yes, the Kubuntu feisty live cd12:48
premier_so I just use sabayon... why not fix your computer in style?12:48
dogatemycomputeryeah.. kubuntu12:48
logixouldogatemycomputer: ok12:48
dogatemycomputerlogixoul: i haven't really delved into the specifics to find out where adept intalls the software too.  I assume its a ramdisk but I haven't checked.12:49
logixoulought to be a ramdisk, I guess12:51
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t3hfr3akok i need help setting up multiple monitora12:53
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logixoulHey. If I have unallocated space and *after that* a partition, then I cannot enlarge it directly, but rather I should use a low-level partition copy tool (what's the name again?), then delete the old partition and just _then_ enlarge the new partition. Is that correct?12:57
navetst3hfr3ak: i have same problem12:57
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t3hfr3aknavets; unsolved?12:57
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navetst3hfr3ak: do you know how to get svideo working12:57
t3hfr3aknavets; thats what im trying to figure out lol12:58
UentilHey, can someone help?12:58
navetst3hfr3ak: haha same12:58
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navetst3hfr3ak: suprised there is not a program to do it12:58
t3hfr3akme too lol12:58
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UentilIm on Kubuntu live, i need to move some files from my Win Vista on to my external hdd, can someone tell me how thats done?12:59
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t3hfr3aknavets; i think i found a site with it01:01
malik__Uentil: open konqi goto /media/sda1............that should be ur primary vista drive01:01
UentilThanks dude.01:01
navetst3hfr3ak: show me plz01:01
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logixoulmalik__: hdd partitions don't seem to be automounted in the livecd tho01:01
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logixoulUentil: first, you mount your w partition in a terminal like so: sudo mkdir /media/w && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/w01:01
logixoul(where /dev/hda1 is your w partition)01:02
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malik__hello ppl i am totally new to photo editing, specially in linux. can some one suggest a website for gimp tutorials or any books available?01:03
Uentilmount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist01:03
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logixoulUentil: do you know which device is your Vista partition?01:03
navetst3hfr3ak: damn i dont have a video card01:03
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navetsi mean a nvidia card01:04
logixoulmalik__: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/GIMP01:04
UentilNo, i dont.01:04
UentilVista isnt working01:04
Uentilthats why i need it01:04
Uentilimma transfer files to my external and install kubuntu01:04
malik__logixoul: thanx dude01:05
logixoulUentil: what is the output of `ls /dev/hd*`01:05
logixoulmalik__: you're welcome :)01:05
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Uentills: /dev/hd*: No such file or directory01:05
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UentilAny way i could browes for Partitions?01:07
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adaptrUentil use fdisk -l01:07
logixoulUentil: what adaptr said, or alternatively kinfocenter01:07
adaptror qtparted01:07
adaptrqtparted would be the definitive answer01:08
logixoulthat too01:08
Uentilubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l01:08
Uentilthats all01:08
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UentilNot finding devices it says01:08
logixoulUentil: I suspect your partition table is seriously screwed01:09
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logixoulUentil: see what qtparted says01:09
UentilIt says no devices found01:09
logixoulUentil: what happens on boot if you don't have the kubuntu cd inserted?01:10
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UentilIt says "Booting from CD" and takes me to a recovery screen01:11
logixoulwhat cd?01:11
Uentiland i tried everything and nothing happens01:11
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UentilNO CLUE!01:11
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logixoulok, what recovery screen?...01:11
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Uentili forget01:12
logixouldescribe it01:12
Tired_How can I make a link to a network shared folder on a remote computer, so that when I'm browsing files with Konq, I can click on the link and it'll open the shared folder?01:12
Uentilit was like01:12
GuyFromHellis the kde4-alpha1 repo working for anyone01:12
Uentilboot normaly01:12
Uentilor do system recovery01:12
Uentiland it wouldnt recover correctly01:12
Tired_It's annoying to have to browse to smb://sharename every time.01:12
yurimxpxmanis there any way to automatically store the linked images inside an OpenOffice document?01:12
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Tired_I was hoping to put links in /mnt, so I could work with them like mounted drives, only with Samba doing the heavy lifting.01:13
cox37777i'm manually creating partitions in ubuntu server and there is no swap patition in the options01:13
cox37777anyone got any ideas?01:13
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slicknickany idea why kmix is not keeping/saving my change when i choose USB Logitech headset01:14
adaptrcox37777 create partition first, change type later01:14
lucky_lucasHi I'm back with kde4 but does anyone knows where okular is hide ?01:14
Schatzyalguien habla espa;ol aca01:14
UentilImma try something else, be back later maybe01:15
cox37777adaptr: where do i change it mate? and what do i set it to at the moment01:15
cox37777adaptr: did u see what i put as my set up? as in do u think it will work?01:16
adaptrcox37777 you say you are manually creating partitions - how ?01:16
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cox37777adaptr: welll i'm just going through the partitioner,01:17
cox37777adaptr: when first installing01:17
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roguejedixThe guide says to uninstall samba when upgrading. Is that just the package "samba" or everything samba related?01:17
adaptrroguejedix upgrading from what to what ?01:18
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cox37777adaptr: if i create a /boot do i need to set a boot flag?01:18
roguejedixadaptr: Edgy to Feisty01:18
roguejedixI was a bit unclear, sorry01:18
adaptrnice nick by the way, it puts you squarely in the 15-21 age bracket :)01:18
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adaptrI didn't uninstall anything, just sudo update-manager -c and let it go01:19
roguejedixWhat can I say? I'll always be a kid at heart :P01:19
roguejedixIt actually did hang at one point for me01:20
adaptrcox37777 no, you don't generally need a boot*able* flag with GRUB01:20
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SkyblastSome, but not all h/x264 .mp4 files have green blocking across the left side. Is there a setting in the xine engine that I can change or is the *264's just not that well supported yet? They work just fine in VLC and MPlayer.01:20
SkyblastOh, my bad, I'm playing them in Kaffeine.01:20
cox37777adaptr: just one last thing01:20
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cox37777i've put the / at the end opposed to directly after the /boot01:21
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cox37777adaptr: would what mater?01:21
adaptrit depends - the best arrangement for a single-disk install would be /swap firts, then /home, and last / - in order of decreasing disk speed01:22
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adaptrwhy are you making a separate /boot ? it serves no purpose unless you run multiple distributions01:22
cox37777adaptr: because i have an old bios and keep getting grub 18 errors01:22
cox37777adaptr: not sure if u have seen it before01:22
roguejedixIs that the one where you have to set all disks to LBA mode?01:23
adaptrcox37777 yes, *I* (that's actually a one-letter word - "you", however, is not) have seen pretty much anything there is to see in the last 18 years of PC industry01:23
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cox37777adaptr: do you know what i am trying to do?01:24
adaptrand especially with an older BIOS, you should always set all disks to LBA mode if possible01:24
adaptrcox37777 not really, why don't you enlighten us ?01:24
cox37777adaptr: lol :s going round in circles01:24
adaptryou're trying to go around in circles ? have you tried tying one foot to a chair, or something ?01:25
adaptrI'm pretty sure that will help01:25
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cox37777adaptr: story goes like this, tried installing 6.06 ubuntu and got the grup 18 error and that was auto disk setup. i then tried with this making a small 32mb /boot at the front but it didnt work, i then came home from work last night and just let the 7.04 server addition just run and low and behold it installed. I mssed it up when i was playing so i went to reinstall the same way and now i'm getting the grub 18 again after a reinstall.01:26
cox37777So here i am once again trying to find a solution to getting 7.04 to install again01:26
adaptrcox37777 describe your hardware01:27
cox37777it's a P3/450MHZ sitting on a ASUS P2B-F motherboard with a 160gig hdd and about 300mb ram01:27
adaptrdoes it actually *see* the entire 160GB ?01:28
adaptrwhat type of HD and did you run any extender tools on it to make it see the additional 32 GB ?01:28
cox37777it does when i had linux installed before i tired reinstalling01:28
adaptrbecause you really better not, it'l complicate things enormously01:28
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cox37777as in ubuntu saw the whole disk01:29
adaptrthis has nothing whatsoever to do with Linux, or any other OS01:29
cox37777adaptr: no i didn't try any extender tools01:29
adaptrwhat disk ?01:29
adaptrwhere is the disk connected to the controller ?01:29
adaptris it an UDMA disk, is it on an UDMA cable ?01:29
cox37777adaptr: its a western digital HDD IDE01:30
dogatemycomputeradaptr: i'm not sure what the bios "seeing" the whole disk has anything to do with getting grub to boot?01:30
adaptrdogatemycomputer cylinder boundaries, for starters01:30
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cox37777adaptr: it's connected to the IDE1 slot on the motherboard01:30
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dogatemycomputeradaptr: then shouldn't just making the boot partition relatively small (end prior to the 1023rd cylinder) allow grub to boot?01:31
adaptrcertain ahuem.. other OSes tend to fill the partition table with data gotten from the BIOS, which will be incorrect, and GURB doesn't use the BIOS i fit can help it01:31
adaptrdogatemycomputer that depends entirely on how the disk was originally partitioned01:31
dogatemycomputeradaptr: ahhhh.. i assumed he formatted the disk.. my bad..01:31
adaptrno, not formatted - partitioned01:31
dogatemycomputeradaptr: (or at least emptied it)01:32
cox37777dogatemycomputer: os this an irraversable problem?01:32
adaptrcox37777 it's software - nothing is irreversible01:32
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dogatemycomputercox37777: sorry.. i'm just sticking my nose into the conversation.. i'm letting adaptr take it from here..01:32
dogatemycomputercox37777: its certainly not irreversable..01:33
adaptrcox37777 can you boot the system and check what the BIOS thinks of the disk ? and by "IDE1" did you mean the first slot, or the second ? the first is normally callled IDE001:33
cox37777dogatemycomputer: no problem, This is a laugh or cry situation @ the moment01:33
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cox37777in terms of the motherboard it's in 1st IDE as the second slot states 'secondary IDE'01:34
cox37777adaptr: what do you mean by what the bios thinks? what am i looking for?01:34
dogatemycomputercox37777: the worst thing that I can see happening is to basically wipe the partitions, create a really small partition at the beginning of the drive for grub then partition the rest of the drive ..01:34
cox37777dogatemycomputer: I'm currently sitting at the partitioner at the moment01:35
adaptrcox37777 the BIOS reports the IDE devices it finds when you boot - hit the PAUSE key and read what that says01:35
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cox37777adaptr: ok shall reboot now01:36
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cox37777adaptr: what sorry?01:37
jordo23For some reason....all of a sudden, my second hard drive (sdb1) won't let me write to it.....any ideas?01:37
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cox37777adaptr: was that message for me?01:37
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jordo23The drive is also listed in /etc/fstab01:38
adaptryes, and no01:38
adaptrgo on about your business :)01:38
cox37777adaptr: shall I reboot?01:38
adaptrwell, yes - you want to see the boot screen01:38
cox37777adaptr: ok 2 ticks01:39
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cox37777adaptr: ok paused :D01:39
navetshey i need some help from anyone who knows anything about monitor layout01:40
navetswhat does LFP mean?01:40
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dogatemycomputerjordo23: would it make sense to you if I said to unmount the partition and do a fsck then reboot?  Did you chance anything in your fstab file that would change your access to the drive?01:40
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jordo23dogatemycomputer: Not sure anything was changed....it was mounted fine last I checked....01:41
jordo23dogatemycomputer: I don't even think I rebooted in the last week....I rebooted now....and still isn't mounted correctly or something...01:42
dogatemycomputerjordo23: in that case..  can you open a console and type 'mount' to see what drives are mounted?01:43
dogatemycomputerif you could cut/paste the line that applies to the read-only device then that would be helpful.01:43
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cox37777adaptr: hello?01:44
adaptryes ?01:44
jordo23dogatemycomputer: It says sdb1 is mounted.....can't create dirs on command line either....permission denied...01:44
cox37777adaptr: i'm at the pause screen01:44
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adaptrso what disk data do you see ?01:44
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jordanhey could anyone tell me how i know whether to use nvidia-glx, legacy, or new01:44
adaptrUbuntu will decide for you01:45
OptimusRexHi all. Does anyone know how to kill firefox that has crashed but is still running in the background?01:45
adaptrOptimusRex erm.. kill it ?01:45
cox37777adaptr: CHS.UDMA 2, 8455MB01:45
jordankillall firefox01:45
adaptrcox37777 ah, there you are... but that's only 8GB01:45
dogatemycomputerjordo23: give me a sec.. brb01:45
OptimusRex<adaptr> yes kill it01:45
OptimusRexstop it running01:45
adaptrOptimusRex no, that was the answer01:45
SkyblastIn Konquerer, how do I set it to not take away the search bar when I change view modes?01:46
jordo23dogatemycomputer:  http://www.pastebin.ca/48396401:46
cox37777adaptr: does this mean I should set the partitioner up using a small /boot?01:46
OptimusRexhow do I enter that in the konsole01:46
adaptrI can list at least 4 different ways to do that01:46
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adaptrcox37777 it doesn't mean anything YET01:46
OptimusRexI remember something like killall...01:46
cox37777adaptr: Ok01:46
jordankillall firefox01:46
slicknickwhos got the direct link to multiple programs sharing sound?01:46
adaptrcox37777 is that disk, in fact, 8GB in size ?01:46
mike_can someone help me install JRE?01:46
cox37777adaptr: 160GB01:47
adaptrcox37777 the BIOS only sees 8GB, so using CHS is a big no-no01:47
dogatemycomputerjordo23: sorry about that..01:47
adaptrswitch it to LBA in the BIOS01:47
adaptryou'll have to re-install everything, i.e. wipe the partition table01:47
dogatemycomputerjordo23: okay..  have you tried taking ownership of the partition?01:48
jordo23dogatemycomputer: Why would it work before but not now though?01:48
jordo23dogatemycomputer: Does the pastebin show it's mounted correctly?01:48
dogatemycomputerjordo23: I think its "sudo chown -R yourusername:users /dev/sdb101:49
cox37777adaptr: ok changed in bios, now it reads LBA, UDMA 2, 8455MB01:49
dogatemycomputerjordo23: what's the pastebin link again?01:49
dogatemycomputerjordo23: nevermind..  found it.01:49
jordo23dogatemycomputer: What should be in the user's part of that command...01:49
adaptrcox37777 good, now both GRUB and the BIOS will agree on how the partitions are set up01:49
adaptrcox37777 now you can create a small partition to hold /boot01:50
jordo23dogatemycomputer: The word 'users'?01:50
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dogatemycomputerjordo23: yeah.. basically you are reassigning ownership of the partition and all files on the partition to you01:51
cox37777adaptr: ok great, so I'm going for 100mb /boot primary + 150gb / logical + 2gb /swap logical?01:51
dogatemycomputerjordo23: you're a user.. right? :)01:51
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adaptrcox37777 why use logical partitions at all ?01:51
adaptrcox37777  I do advise you to create a separate /home01:51
dogatemycomputerjordo23: yep.. it looks like it was mounted properly..01:51
cox37777adaptr: Sorry, a lot of this is guess work on my part01:51
jordo23dogatemycomputer: Did the command....seemed fine.....do I have to reboot?01:51
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adaptrcox37777 okay... in that case, I suggest you create 128MB /boot, memory-size swap, 16GB / and the rest for /home01:52
dogatemycomputerjordo23: if you take ownership and you don't see any significant errors then no.. you should be able to write to the partition..01:53
cox37777adaptr: ok I am at the partitioner again now, I shall set it up01:53
jordo23dogatemycomputer: Ran the command seemed fine....but no write from KDE01:53
dogatemycomputerjordo23: still can't write to the partition?01:54
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adaptrjordo23 dogatemycomputer that's not the way to alter permissions on a drive01:54
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cox37777adaptr: and all this is in Ext301:54
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jordo23dogatemycomputer: Cannot create file or directory from command line to /media/sdb101:54
jordo23adaptr: Do you know what I should do?01:54
adaptrjordo23 you need to chmod the *mount point*01:54
dogatemycomputeradaptr: go for it..01:54
crazyrobotall your /dev/partions should be root/disk   do chmod a+w /media/sdb101:55
jordo23adaptr:  /media/sdb1 or /dev/sdb1?01:55
adaptrjordo23 the mount point is the filesystem location01:55
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adaptryou can only chmod a partition when it's mounted01:55
adaptris the partition empty ?01:55
ScarFreewillwhat is a nice dc client for kde?01:56
Admiral_Chicagowhat is Dc? sorry01:56
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jordo23adaptr: The drive is a 250 (one large fat32) partition. Was working fine yesterday and I could write to it. Did not reboot....now all of a sudden I can't write to it...01:56
ScarFreewillAdmiral_Chicago: dcpp...01:56
Admiral_Chicagookay you lost me.01:56
crazyrobotjordo23: can you read from it?01:56
adaptrjordo23 does it have to be FAT32bitch ? :(01:56
ScarFreewillAdmiral_Chicago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC++01:57
jordo23adaptr: Yeah....was working flawlessly....I don't get it....01:57
Admiral_Chicagothanks ScarFreewill01:57
jordo23crazyrobot: Yeah....I can read from it, but cannot write to it anymore..01:57
ScarFreewillthere is a linux one there but you have to go and compile it...01:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dc++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dcpp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:58
adaptrjordo23 is the partition in your fstab ?01:58
Admiral_Chicagocrap, i've heard of it too01:58
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jordo23adaptr: Yeah....please check my fstab....http://www.pastebin.ca/48398101:59
ScarFreewilli was using valknut and its in apt but i was looking for others01:59
cox37777adaptr: another question, does /boot files know where the /root is?01:59
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cellfishok i really don't get it02:00
cellfishi delete a partition, i create a new one02:00
cellfishif i format in ext3, the drive goes offline and i have to turn off and restart the computer to get it back and the partition becomes corrupted02:00
cellfishif i format in fat32, it formats quickly but no matter how much i change the permissiions, it never allows me to copy into it02:00
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cellfishand if i format as reiserfs, it works but i can't copy huge chunks of data otherwise the drive just stalls02:01
adaptrjordo23 /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 fat user,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 002:01
adaptrjordo23 and then mount it, then sudo chmod 777 /media/sdb102:01
dogatemycomputercellfish: that sounds like a failing drive..02:01
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jrjxHow do I quickly / easily determine the basic version of Kubuntu I am running, presumably from the Konsole command line?02:02
cellfishdogatemycomputer: i know, and yet it was absolutely fine until i started installing linux02:02
adaptrjordo23 FAT doesn't actually have permissions, so you need to provide full perms on the root of the partition02:02
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jordo23adaptr: What's the exact mount command?02:02
GrueTamerjrjx, do you mean the kernel, or the actual kubuntu version?02:02
adaptrcox37777 the initrd and kernel images are on /boot, which is all the loader needs to be able to find02:02
adaptrjordo23 I showed you02:02
stdin!version | jrjx02:02
ubotujrjx: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell02:02
jordo23adaptr: No....sorry.....do I have to reboot first?02:03
dogatemycomputercellfish: you know..  it wouldn't be the first time i've had linux find a failing device before Windows or even Mac.  Linux expects a device to respond properly and if it doesn't then it does its best to protect you early on.  If anyone else has anything to add then please do.02:03
adaptrjordo23 edit fstab then mount /media/sdb1 -o remount02:03
jordo23adaptr: That's what Im lookin for...thanks.02:03
cox37777adaptr: Ok, now in the install process. Many thanks for all the help and wish me luck02:03
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jrjxUmmm...  Both, I suppose.  I *think* it's 5.10, but I want to be sure for a bug report I'm filing.  (Not a Kubuntu bug, but for ... http://www.visibone.com/javascript/jt1.html.  Automated Javascript compatibility testing.02:03
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GrueTamercox37777, good luck02:03
cox37777GrueTamer: thank mate02:03
GrueTamerno problem02:03
jordo23adaptr: Did that....edited fstab, then ran the two commands......still no write....02:04
GrueTameranybody whos installing linux for the first time (i assume this is your first time, tell me if im wrong) deserves luck02:04
jordo23adaptr: Try reboot?02:04
adaptrjordo23 no reboot - NEVER any reboot02:04
adaptrthat's microfuckingsoft thinking02:04
adaptrit's just a disk FCS02:05
dogatemycomputerjordo23: what do you see if "cd /mnt" then "ls -la"02:05
jordo23adaptr: Sorry....what now though?02:05
stdinjrjx: use "lsb_release -a" to get the version of k/ubuntu you are using, and "uname -r" for the kernel version02:05
dogatemycomputeror cd /media02:05
adaptrjordo23 no need for sorry... but yeah, post the result of ls -la /media02:05
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dogatemycomputerjordo23: i'm curious if you even have rights to write to the drive.02:05
jordo23adaptr dogatemycomputer:  http://www.pastebin.ca/48398902:06
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adaptrjordo23 you did not chmod - did you remember to use sudo ?02:07
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jordo23adaptr: Yeah....went to the next line....no error02:07
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dogatemycomputeradaptr: I had to take ownership of my drive to get it to work right.. not sure why.02:08
jordo23adaptr: Ran it again...02:08
jordo23no error....same ls-la results02:08
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jordo23adaptr: Still cannot create files on command line to /media/sdb1 (permission denied)02:09
N6REJgood evening all02:09
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dogatemycomputerjordo23: sudo chown jordo23:users /media/sdb102:09
N6REJAnyone know how to figure out what is causing ascii graphical characters at boot up?02:09
jrjxThankee for the answer.  Worked.02:10
jordo23dogatemycomputer: Operation Not Permitted?02:10
adaptrjordo23 if you run sudo chmod 777 /media/sdb1 and it does not show rwxrwxrwx perms afterwards, then.. ehm.. SOMEthing went wrong02:10
jordo23adaptr: How is that possible?02:10
jsubl2dogatemycomputer: i believe you have to change options in the fstab02:10
jsubl2man fstab02:11
dogatemycomputerjordo23: ls -la /mnt02:11
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dogatemycomputerjordo23: ignore that last message02:11
adaptrI have no idea, but if you're the only user of this system you can try setting uid and gid in fstab02:11
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jordo23dogatemycomput: Good....nothing in that dir02:11
dogatemycomputerjordo23: ahhhh02:11
adaptrjordo23 can you post the output of "mount" ?02:11
dogatemycomputerjordo23: try this..02:11
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dogatemycomputerjordo23: chown jordo23:root /media/sdb102:12
dogatemycomputerjordo23: let me test it on my system..02:12
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dogatemycomputerjordo23: I have a similar setu..02:12
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jordo23dogatemycomputer: Says Operation Not Permitted, even when ran with sudo02:13
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OptimusRexHow do I stop Adept if it's running in the background?02:13
jordo23adaptr: http://www.pastebin.ca/48400402:13
dogatemycomputerjordo23: in that case i'm at a loss too.  It lets me take ownership of my device and change permission without an issue.  Hmmmmmmmm.. have you unmounted it, fsck then rebooted?02:13
jordo23dogatemycomputer: I don't think so....02:14
jordo23adaptr told me not to reboot02:14
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jordo23dogatemycomputer: I don't think it was ever unmounted then remounted...02:14
adaptrthere's absolutely no need to EVER do that02:14
jordo23adaptr: I agree with you in theory.....02:15
adaptrjordo23 you can try adding uid=<yourusername> to the mount options in fstab02:15
dogatemycomputersudo umount /media/sdb1 , sudo fsck /dev/sdb1 ..  you probably don't need too but who knows...  i've seen stranger.02:15
adaptrjordo23 it doesn't matter whether you "agree" with that - it's a fact02:15
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YorokobiOptimusRex, 'sudo killall adept-manager' I believe. You can use 'ps wax | grep adept' to get the name/pid and kill -9/killall from there.02:15
jordo23adaptr: Where in fstab?02:15
adaptradd it to the other options for sdb102:16
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jordo23adaptr: At the end of the line?02:16
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OptimusRexYorokobi, Thanks.02:16
dogatemycomputerjordo23: here is an excellent fstab tutorial if you're curious.. http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html02:16
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adaptrjordo23 no, *ADD IT TO THE OPTIONS* - if you dont' know what the options are then man mount02:17
cox37777adaptr: you are a legend02:17
jordo23adaptr: Options is after type....but I want to get the line right...02:17
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adaptrI know...02:17
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adaptrcox37777 I assume you have it installed ?02:18
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cox37777adaptr: yes02:18
adaptrcox37777 chalk it up to ~15 years of PC hardware experience :)02:18
cox37777and it seems to have gone through fine02:18
adaptrcox37777 the only real magic there was setting the disk to use LBA mode - it would NEVER have worked until you did02:18
cox37777adaptr: lol .. i spent about 10 hours of getting very angry with it, finally got it working then messed it up and got back to this when i was just finalizing the workings02:19
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adaptrthat's how it goes02:19
stanleyhey cox37777 can u help me with a kbfx prob??02:19
cox37777stanley: whats up with it?02:19
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tinit seems weird, but when you'r setting up a new system, or making big changes to an old system, it helps ti write things down on paper02:19
stanleynone of the settings i've selected are being applied02:20
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tini moved some partitions around for kubuntu, and somewhere the partition table got hosed02:20
cox37777stanley: i would love to help but unfortunatly i know nothing about it. Ummm02:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:20
tinso both the eventual kubuntu install and windows were dead after the rebot02:20
cox37777stanley: is it a theme?02:20
tini sort of remembered where the partition boundaries were and got it fixed, but if i had wirrtten it down, woulda been fixed in seconds02:21
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tininstead of hours of parted manual reading and guessing on how many bytes in a given partition02:22
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N6REJis there anyone that can help me with my bootup propblem?02:22
stanleyyea...it;s a menu theme program02:22
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rayluI can't boot from the Feisty CD on my other computer02:24
rayluit hangs after loading on what looks like a tty02:24
rayluwith 2 lines at the bottom:02:24
rayluInt 14: CR2 and some hex02:24
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adaptrdid you md5 check the CD after dling ?02:25
rayluno, but I installed with it on this machin02:25
raylui also tried it with an ubuntu cd that I used on a friend's machine and it gave the same error02:26
adaptrthen it's a bad drive, a broken system, or a really weird combination of hardware02:26
adaptrbut I'd check the CD cable first ;-)02:26
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rayluI put the CD in under XP and it loaded up the openWhatever program fine02:26
N6REJsurely somebody around here knows what might be causing me to get graphical ascii characters for text instead of regular text during bootup when it didn't happen before.02:27
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N6REJlook here to see what I mean... http://www.n6rej.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=7002:28
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raylugraphical ascii characters for text?02:28
N6REJraylu: yep, look at the pictures.02:29
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rayluyou mean why are you in a terminal window?02:29
dogatemycomputerN6REJ: that looks like a bad CD..02:29
N6REJraylu: no, if you look closely at the images you'll see that they are not text.  They are mostly ascii graphics.02:30
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N6REJdogatemycomputer: thats my HD02:30
N6REJdogatemycomputer: it was fine, this happened suddenly02:30
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dogatemycomputerN6REJ: then it only gets worse from here..02:30
N6REJdogatemycomputer: I lost my sound at the same time.02:30
rayluoh, i've had that before when I screwed around with my xorg.conf, N6REJ02:30
autocliphow do I tell KDE to not automatically copy selections into the clipboard? I'd prefer explicitly using ctrl-c.02:30
N6REJwell it does't do that once I'm in kde02:30
rayluperhaps you should fix the your /etc/modprobe.d02:30
dogatemycomputerN6REJ: does it boot into X after the trash finishes spewing on your screen?02:31
rayluautoclip, try klipper settings02:31
N6REJdogatemycomputer: yep02:31
N6REJbeeps, squaks has a fit, but then loads fine just no sound.02:31
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dogatemycomputerN6REJ: what kernel are you running?02:31
N6REJdoes it on -14 also02:32
N6REJI tried to install vmware server and I don't know if thats when it happened or not02:32
dogatemycomputerN6REJ: does this describe the problem?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/6397002:32
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DarlMcBrideThe Ubuntu ops didn't like my nick.02:33
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SCOTrollHmm, not official enough.02:34
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TheSCOTrollThere, perfect.02:34
N6REJdogatemycomputer: yes similar.  During bootup its a mess but once I'm in KDE I can run terminal and its clear02:34
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autoclipraylu: thanks02:35
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dogatemycomputerN6REJ: did you try commenting out the splash in grub to see if that corrects the problem?02:35
dogatemycomputerN6REJ: its worth a shot..02:36
TheSCOTrollI got a letter from SCO in the mail asking me to pay a $699 fee for using Linux. Has anyone gotten these letters from the SCO group?02:36
N6REJdogatemycomputer: no I don't know how02:36
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TheSCOTrollShouldn't the KUbuntu people set up an account with The SCO Group so they can pay this for the users?02:36
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ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:37
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dogatemycomputerN6REJ: well... the menu list is /boot/grub/menu.lst .. if the bug applies.. then there should be a line in there that looks similar to the line described in the bug report..02:38
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dogatemycomputerN6REJ: use your favorite text editor to comment it out (just insert a "#" in front of the line) and save it.02:39
dogatemycomputerN6REJ: does that make sense to you?02:39
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dogatemycomputerN6REJ: I would backup the file first though.. this way you can boot from the live CD and restore it if needed.02:39
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dogatemycomputerN6REJ: you can also follow the tutorial to basically reinstall grub?02:40
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OptimusRexHelp! I can't stop Adept running in the background or at least that is what Automatix says.02:43
dogatemycomputerN6REJ: as for sound.. no clue.. I would start with 'dmesg' and make sure the card was installed and detected properly.  You can also check lspci to make sure its installed/detected properly.02:43
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe02:43
N6REJdogatemycomputer: I believe mine is already set to quiet.  I'm going to try rebooting now and see what happens... perhaps the had is going bad :(02:43
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adaptrwhy doesn't the SCO troll post his checking account so we can withdraw $6.99 for every line he utters ?02:43
adaptrsounds fairer to me, and easier too02:43
OptimusRexok. So the best advice is to uninstall it?02:43
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about canceled - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:44
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dogatemycomputerOptimusRex: sorry.. never even used it.  I do know its still in beta and beta software is scares me.02:44
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dogatemycomputerOptimusRex: i'm not good enough yet..02:45
OptimusRexthanks dogatemycomputer. I will uninstall right away02:45
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Feldegastgiven SCO is a dead company trading who exactly would we pay? also consider that the extortion er um licensing inititive was put on hold pending the court cases02:46
PenguinsRuleLinux is better than SCO.02:47
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PenguinsRuleI had a question about SMP in Linux.02:47
K-RyanHey hey02:47
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raidmaxhey anyone know any cgi?02:48
raidmaxi really need some help02:48
Feldegastwhile i am in here (and active) how easy is it to enable dual monitors in kubuntu?02:48
TheSCOTrollraidmax: You mean Common Gateway Interface?02:48
K-RyanI've heard it's not that bad, but I haven't done it personally.02:48
raidmaxyes TheSCOTroll thats exactly wat i mean02:48
Feldegastraidmax depends on the type of cgi, can be C, C++, perl etc02:48
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raidmaxanyone kno02:49
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DragnslcrAnyone tried installing Feisty as a Xen guest? Just wondering if it's worth experimenting with02:49
Yorokobiraidmax, this is not a perl/cgi channel02:49
TheSCOTrollWatch out how you implement anything that interacts with the httpd via CGI. If you have an instance of your program for every request, you'll use a lot of memory.02:49
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raidmaxi have a website with a submit button and when i click it it should display Hello but it doesnt it brings the code from the cgi i wanna use up02:50
TheSCOTrollraidmax: You need to be more specific.02:50
Feldegastsounds like the apache conf isn't configured right02:50
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raidmaxi dont even know if i have apache someone told me the same thing02:50
raidmaxi have xampp on windows but i dnt kno how to use it02:50
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Feldegastin linux apache is the recomended webserver02:51
raidmaxcan u walk me thru it?02:51
crdlbFeldegast: either that or lighttpd02:51
PenguinsRuleI am trying to get my school to switch from M$ Windows to Linux, but the system administrator laughed at me. How can I convince him that Linux is the best?02:51
Feldegastto enable perl? not from memory sorry02:51
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Feldegastit's on the perl website iirc02:52
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PenguinsRuleI love Linux because it runs Gimp and openoffice, which are superior to those Windows programs. And kubuntu is the best.02:52
PenguinsRuleWhat reasons can I give to get my school to switch to kubuntu?02:53
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FeldegastPenguinsRule from what?02:53
PenguinsRuleWindows 200002:53
hitmanWillyPenguinsRule: you could try the virus angle02:53
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Feldegast\increased reliablility, reduced cost, increased flexability02:53
N6REJdogatemycomputer: well, its a little better... look at this... http://www.n6rej.com/images/stories/cimg0854.jpg  This was taken at the login screen I told it to make the session "console" instead of kde.02:54
TheSCOTrollPenguinsRule: Linux costs more ($699 SCO IP license fee a wack versus Windows).02:54
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N6REJhiya hitmanWilly02:54
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Feldegastalso 2000 is no longer supoported02:54
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K-RyanI wasn't following the conversation, but aren't most Linux distros free and those that aren't are cheap I thought.02:55
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jsubl2PenguinsRule: when i switched my wife a couple of years ago.. She was already using openoffice.  I was forcing her to mozilla for security/virus reasons.  that only left her gaming and photos  to deal with02:55
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FeldegastK-Ryan this is true, some schools get free M$ software02:55
dogatemycomputerN6REJ: its beyond me.. i'm sorry..02:56
K-RyanNo no no, TheSCOTroll said "Linux costs more"02:56
dogatemycomputerSCO is scum.02:56
PenguinsRuleIs that true?02:56
K-RyanI seriously doubt it.02:56
K-RyanThe only distro that I heard of that costs money is Red Hat.02:56
Feldegastis what true?02:56
N6REJdogatemycomputer: nuts.02:56
TheSCOTrollSCO invented Linux.02:56
K-RyanAnd I don't think it's that much.02:56
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N6REJK-Ryan: there are several that do02:57
K-RyanBut in comparison to Windows, it's miniscule, right?02:57
dogatemycomputerTheSCOTroll: that code has long since been gone to the dust heap..02:57
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Feldegastlinspire, xandros and others are non free iirc02:57
ArwenK-Ryan, it's not the license cost he's talking about, he's talking about the total cost of ownership - e.g. admins, devs, etc02:57
Kr4t05What is the best way to burn a Video DVD?02:57
Arwennot that makes his argument any more right, but..02:57
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TheSCOTrollI think Linux should continue, it just needs to pay for patent rights or it will be crushed by commercial solutions.02:58
hitmanWillyKr4t05: try k3b02:58
K-RyanI'm not quite sure what you mean.02:58
Kr4t05I've tried DeVeDe, tovid, and an assortment of other tools, and I need a fool-proof way of making it work.02:58
PenguinsRuleTheSCOTroll: You are very insightful.02:58
TheSCOTrollPenguinsRule: Thank you.02:58
ArwenTheSCOTroll, why would the kernel team need to pay for patent rights?02:58
K-RyanTheSCOTroll Linux will live on, open source will prevail just because it's so much better.02:58
adaptrhe's certainly full of it, yeah02:58
dogatemycomputerI think the real debate is weather you want to pay Mirosoft for the right to use software that you can't get support on or the right to use less expensive software that requires a bit more support..02:58
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K-RyanThat's my outlook, but please let's not go offtopic.02:58
K-RyanOtherwise #ubuntu-offtopic02:58
Admiral_ChicagoTheSCOTroll: PenguinsRule. dogatemycomputer please talk in #kubuntu-offtopic,02:58
K-RyanErr, what Admiral said.02:59
Kr4t05hitmanWilly: When I select the VideoDVD option in K3b, it gives me two directories: AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS. I put a pre-encoded MPEG-2 in the VIDEO_TS directory and try to burn. It errors out with some cryptic message that I can't figure out.02:59
Feldegastdoes anyone here use dual monitors?03:00
ArwenFeldegast, sorry, I don't enough cash for that :-P03:00
Kr4t05Feldegast: Me.03:00
Kr4t05Feldegast: Need help setting up Xorg?03:00
ArwenKr4t05, err, describe the cryptic message03:00
TheSCOTrollDual monitors is so 1995.03:00
K-RyanStop trolling.03:00
FeldegastKr4t05 have u booted your dual monitor configured linux up inside vmware?03:01
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TheSCOTrollMy stock trading setup has four LCD monitors.03:01
TheSCOTrollBeat that.03:01
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hitmanWillyKr4t05: don't really burn those that much, just know that it does it03:01
Kr4t05Feldegast: Er... no, can't say I have.03:01
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K-RyanIf you aren't going to help or try, and you don't have any questions...03:01
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hitmanWillyKr4t05: i think you have to convert it over to a vid dvd format03:01
Kr4t05Arwen: "Could not determine the size of the resulting image file."03:01
Feldegasti have a dual boot xp/kubuntu and each can boot the other inside vmeware03:01
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mobiusNZhey guys, ive got an odd problem trying to get my broadcom wireless working on my new lappy, using ndiswrapper. i've installed the drivers fine, but in my /var/log/messages i get "ndiswrapper: request for IRQ 0 failed". anyone have any ideas?03:02
Kr4t05hitmanWilly: I already used tovid to convert it.03:02
TheSCOTrollTHe Three Stooges03:02
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Kr4t05hitmanWilly: keep up.03:02
Feldegasti was just wondering hoe dual monitors would go with that03:02
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LarryWhere is Moe? :(03:02
ArwenKr4t05, ah, hmm.... no idea then.. try burning it as a normal DVD? Video DVD is really just DVD + VIDEO_TS03:02
Feldegastin the simpsons?03:02
Kr4t05Arwen: Would it play in a standard player, then?03:03
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CurlyWe can't continue the crapflood trolling without Moe. :(03:03
K-Ryan"Larry" really, stop.03:03
adaptrwhere's Moe ?03:03
Arwenrather, who's moe?03:04
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adaptrArwen the absent Stooge ?03:04
K-RyanGood luck Feldegast03:04
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Kr4t05Arwen: It errors out... :/03:05
ArwenKr4t05, so I guess it's a problem with your burning software? :-)03:05
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Kr4t05Arwen: KDE crashed... :/03:09
Arwenha, lol03:09
Kr4t05Arwen: Apparently... I should look at this online...03:09
Arwentime for some bug reports?03:09
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Kr4t05Time to just give up...03:11
Kr4t05Course... can't take this thing back to Walmart, as a threw out the box...03:11
Kr4t05It burned two DVDs fine...03:11
Kr4t05Then, it just stopped working...03:11
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ubuntu_hey can anyone help me03:13
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ubuntu_with a few probs03:13
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stratman4300ubuntu...  sure whats up???03:14
II want03:14
Ito make a smooth linux03:14
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Iinstall with xp dual boot BUT somehting messed up03:15
Iand now I can only access this live cd03:15
Iand I can't install kubuntu either03:15
stratman4300did you install XP first or 2nd???03:15
Iit just freezes up03:15
stratman4300okay....   when does it lock up for you???03:15
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ubuntu_it says "Press A Key To Reboot" when I try winxp03:16
ubuntu_and it locks up03:16
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ubuntu_when i goto install kubuntu03:16
stratman4300does it load xp then say that within XP??   or before XP comes up???03:17
ubuntu_so I either need XP fixed or kubuntu installed03:17
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ubuntu_after the bios screen03:17
stratman4300does it say anything about missing files??03:17
ubuntu_I think03:17
ubuntu_the nt boot files03:18
ubuntu_are gone03:18
ubuntu_and I don't have an xp cd to use the recovery console03:18
stratman4300sounds like your xp install is screwy....   personally i would re-install it03:18
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ubuntu_I'd like to get some data off first03:18
ubuntu_{we all know xp is screwy}03:18
stratman4300okay...   what happens when you install kubuntu???03:18
stratman4300LOL...  yes we do03:19
ubuntu_it won't mount properly in the live cd03:19
ubuntu_it locks up03:19
ubuntu_when i try to install03:19
stratman4300the xp drive won't mount??03:19
ubuntu_well it says03:19
Arwenubuntu_, eh? the partition won't mount?03:19
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ubuntu_Read only; I used mount -t ntfs dev/hda5/ /mnt03:19
ubuntu_hda 5 is my windows partion with my data03:20
ubuntu_I HATE M$.......the other 3 times it happened I had mbr/hdd backups03:20
_christoph_ubuntu_, you must repartition your drive to install kubuntu03:20
stratman4300hmmm...   i think you have to be the root user to mount to /mnt....  did you try it with the sudo command???03:20
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ubuntu_i did03:20
ubuntu_christoph: well it locks up when I install03:21
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stratman4300i would try creating a seperate folder in /mnt the try to mount it in /mnt/(yournewfolderhere)03:21
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hitmanWillyubuntu_: try mounting in a subdir of mnt, ie /mnt/hda5 or some such03:21
ubuntu_so i make a new folder through konqueror or similar03:22
ubuntu_ok, give me a sec03:22
stratman4300you could even do it with the command line03:22
Arwenubuntu_, mkdir /mnt/hda503:22
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hitmanWillyubuntu_: sure, or mkdir from cli03:22
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roadfishmy computer keeps rebooting even though I select "Turn Off" rather than "Restart". any idea what might be the problem?03:22
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ubuntu_..... {} /dev/hda5 already mounted or /mnt/hda5 busy03:23
_christoph_more /etc/mtab03:24
stratman4300roadfish....   what version of kubuntu are you running???03:24
ubuntu_this what u want ?03:24
ubuntu_one sec03:24
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ubuntu_proc /proc proc rw 0 003:24
ubuntu_sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 003:25
ubuntu_tmpfs /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile tmpfs rw,mode=0755 0 003:25
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ubuntu_tmpfs /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile tmpfs rw,mode=0755 0 003:25
ubuntu_/dev/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb none rw,bind 0 003:25
ubuntu_fusectl /sys/fs/fuse/connections fusectl rw 0 003:25
ubuntu_varrun /var/run tmpfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755 0 003:25
ubuntu_varlock /var/lock tmpfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777 0 003:25
ubuntu_udev /dev tmpfs rw,mode=0755 0 003:25
ubuntu_devshm /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 003:25
ubuntu_devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 003:25
ubuntu_tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev 0 003:25
hitmanWilly!paste | ubuntu_03:25
ubotuubuntu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:25
_christoph_just look yourself if /dev/hda5 really IS mounted03:25
roadfishstratman4300: 7.04 Feisty Fawn03:26
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ubuntu_nothing is03:26
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ubuntu_nothing is mounted...03:27
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hitmanWillyubuntu_: as in NOTHING nothing? that's not possible...03:27
dextroneit says in bash mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /mnt/hda5 busy03:28
dextroneand I don't see a thing03:28
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Arwenugh, help vampire... ah well03:28
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dextroneAS IN03:28
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:29
dextronesince I restarted the live cd03:29
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DaveMoraHello everyone03:31
dextroneso is there anything I can do03:31
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DaveMoraDoes anyone have experience with biometric with ubuntu ?03:31
roadfishwell, I found a workaround to my computer continuously rebooting even after "Turn Off" was select ... I force a "shutdown now" from konsole.03:32
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ubuntu_can anyone help?03:35
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IreclanHow do I install Win32 codecs for Kaffeine?04:03
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_christoph_I use (K)MPlayer with w32codecs-all04:04
Jucato!w32codecs | Ireclan04:05
ubotuIreclan: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs04:05
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IreclanI have a debian file called "w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb"....How about that? Does THAT get me anywhere?04:07
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M_42does anyone know how to get your backlight on your lcd to turn off?04:07
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_christoph_yes, that's it. But I dont know if Kaffeine can use it.04:08
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nosrednaekimsorry.. caps04:09
IreclanAnyone know if Kaffeine can use "w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb"?04:09
M_42not a lappy04:09
M_42just a standard 17" lcd04:09
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nosrednaekimM_42: "DPMS"04:12
nosrednaekimI don't hink you can give the command yourself.04:12
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M_42I checked my xorg.conf and my acpi-settings files04:13
M_42they seem ok04:13
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IreclanAnyone know where I can get help with Kaffeine?04:14
_christoph_Ireclan, maybe on #kde04:14
JucatoIreclan: yes it can04:14
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Kr4t05Has anyone else mastered the secrets to burning DVDs with k3b?04:15
Jucatoany w32codec will do04:15
IreclanJucato: It's a .deb...04:15
IreclanJucato: I can't install it, it gives me errors...04:15
Jucatowhat errors?04:16
Jucatoand how are you installing it?04:16
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IreclanJucato: I'm installing it by right-click...04:16
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JucatoIreclan: and what errors do you get?04:17
Jucato(if it's too many, pastebin it)04:17
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IreclanJucato: The path is incorrect...04:18
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IreclanJucato: I THINK I just figured out what's wrong...04:18
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M_42anyone know how to force a lcd monitor to turn its backlight off?04:18
ArwenM_42, hit the power key04:18
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IreclanJucato: How do I properly install .debs via command line???04:19
HymnToLifeIreclan, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb04:19
Gabzanyone here used ktorrents schedule bandwidth function ?04:19
JucatoIreclan: are you sure you are doing right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package04:19
ArwenGabz, nope, I'm an azureus user :-)04:20
Arwenbesides, I want my torrents to always be eating max bandwidth anyway04:20
IreclanJucato: Yep. And the person who programmed the function made an idiotic mistake...It can't handle files with spaces in them...04:20
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Kr4t05Gabz: I have, but I stopped after a while...04:20
ArwenIreclan, dpkg -i "filename"04:20
Kr4t05My schedule is too variable for it.04:21
Arwendon't forget the quotes04:21
Jucatodon't forget sudo as well04:21
JucatoIreclan: sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>04:21
Arwensudo ain't part of the command :-)04:21
JucatoIreclan: use tab completion so that you won't have to manually enter the whole file name04:22
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JucatoArwen: and without sudo, the command is useless04:22
ArwenJucato, not true - what if you had a root shell?04:22
JucatoArwen: "what if", we are in Kubuntu, that's not the normal case04:22
GabzKr4t05: you don't know how to limit the downloads below 1 do you ?04:22
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Arwen"apps -> system tools -> root konsole"04:22
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Jucatothat menu entry doesn't exist by default either04:23
Jucato(we don't even have an Apps/Applications menu)04:23
Arwenpssh, sucks to be you04:23
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Jucato!coc | Arwen04:25
ubotuArwen: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/04:25
Arwenah cmon.... lame04:25
IreclanIt worked...04:25
JucatoIreclan: worked now?04:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:26
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ArwenIreclan, hehe04:26
ubotufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot04:26
JucatoM_42: heh. just don't do it agan ;)04:26
IreclanJucato: And I DO believe that's a bug...04:26
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IreclanJucato: You reckon it's been fixed for Feisty?04:27
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M_42anyone know what would cause power management functions for an lcd monitor not to work at all04:27
M_42I tried /etc/acpi/screenblank.sh and it does nothing04:27
JucatoIreclan: I'm not sure anyone actually reported it. I'll ask. but hopefully next release we already have a full graphical DEB installer (KDE port of gdebi)04:27
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: its being worked on for SoC04:32
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LincKanabicohi everybody how do i enable root login in kubuntu feasty?04:38
Jucato!sudo | LincKanabico04:38
ubotuLincKanabico: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:38
Jucato(the page in that link has instructions)04:38
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Jucatothanks for confirming Admiral_Chicago04:38
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:40
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LincKanabicothis helps buti like to login to kde as root from the login prompt04:41
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servidorunobuenas noches04:52
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servidorunoespero su colaboracion con el siguente tema:04:53
IreclanAmerok is being a F*cktard.04:53
servidorunotengo problemas para compartir impresoras desde kubuntu.04:53
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IreclanIt won't install MP3 support.04:53
servidorunoprimero el administrador de impresoras no me aceptaba mis pasword y claves04:54
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IreclanJucato or someone, please help.04:54
servidorunoluego agregue el usuario cupsys a shadow04:54
servidorunoy aun asi me sigue negando mis claves y accesos y no me deja configurar el servidor de impresion cups,04:55
servidorunocomo podria corregir este lio?04:55
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Ireclanservidoruno: No hablo espanol. Los siento.04:55
servidorunoalguen a podido resolver esto04:55
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:55
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Admiral_ChicagoIreclan: what release?04:55
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IreclanAdmiral_Chicago: Edgy.04:56
Admiral_ChicagoIreclan: thats a know bug. Pleaes enable Multiverse and install libxine-extracodecs04:57
IreclanAdmiral_Chicago: What plugin do I need. I'll do a manual install if necessary.04:57
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:57
Admiral_Chicago!mp3 | Ireclan04:57
ubotuIreclan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:57
Admiral_Chicagothat might also help04:57
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servidorunosome body know how i can fix the cups server, when I change the cupsys user to shadow?04:59
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servidorunoplease !!!04:59
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servidorunosomebody know?05:02
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Ireclanservidoruno: Patience. Someone might help evuntually.05:03
IreclanAdmiral_Chicago: Could you tell me how to enable multiverse- my net connection's being retarded...05:04
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servidorunook   thank you05:04
Feldegastin KDE, how do you tell the desktop menu to left align?05:04
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Kr4t05This is weird... The drive is rated for 16x burning on DVDs, the media is rated for 16x burning, DMA is enabled and the drive is connected properly... However, K3b doesn't peak over 3x when burning...05:07
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dr_williscould be the hd isent able to send the info any faster...05:09
dr_willisor somthing else is telling it to slow down.05:09
flaccidguess there is a bottleneck there unless 16x is just a max, not a realistic speed05:09
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dr_willisflaccid,  yea tey always hype those #'s dont they05:10
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IreclanAnyone care to help me with getting universe and multiverse repositories working?05:11
crimsunIreclan: for which Ubuntu release?05:11
flaccidyeah they do, but i though with the burning speeds it was meant to be, its the read speed that is max eg. 52X is absolute max , but yeah maybe the write speeds are max as well05:11
Ireclancrimsun Edgy.05:12
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:12
Feldegastnobody knows how to left align the desktop menu??05:12
crimsunIreclan: see the URL that the bot just posted.05:12
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flaccidFeldegast: im not sure what you mean05:12
Ireclanflaccid: Already tried that...Not working....05:12
Kr4t05flaccid: Maybe... Can't see any bottlenecks... 2.26GHz Intel Celeron D, 1GB RAM DDR400, and a WD 160GB IDE05:13
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flaccidIreclan: tried what?05:13
Feldegastin kde you can enable the "desktop menu" which puts a menu at the top of the screen05:13
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flaccidFeldegast: oh how do you do that?05:13
Ireclanflaccid: the procedure on that page.05:13
flaccidIreclan: you must be doing something wrong05:14
Kr4t05It just seems that 2.7x is a pretty big difference from 16x.05:14
Feldegastright click desktop -> configure Desktop > behaviour05:14
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Kr4t05K3b even says it will burn at 16x, but doesn't deliver...05:14
winstonUptime: 1 hours and 5 minutes05:14
flaccidFeldegast: thanks. i can't test atm, if no luck here, #kde will advise05:14
flaccidKr4t05: thats because its hardware dependent05:15
winstonhow can i use my webcam on kopete? i see it working in preferences, but i see no place in kopete to use it.05:15
Feldegastin 6.10 the desktop menu was left aligned, when i upgraded to 7.04 it bekame sort of centered05:15
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras05:15
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Admiral_ChicagoIreclan: sorry I'm away05:15
flaccidwebcam support is very bad on *nix due to no standard protocol05:15
mrwinstonthose websites dont answer my question05:15
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Kr4t05flaccid: Don't forget the gspca drivers.05:15
flaccidyeah but i just did...05:15
mrwinstoni didnt say my webcam doesnt work05:15
mrwinstonit does05:15
flaccidKr4t05: depends what webcam you have05:16
mrwinstonwhere is the option to use my webcam in kopete?05:16
flaccidmrwinston: settings - configure - devices05:16
Kr4t05mrwinston: The only protocol that supports video in kopete is Yahoo. AIM and MSN don't have support for it, yet.05:16
flaccidthats funny msn webcam works fine for me in kopete05:17
Kr4t05Oh, yeah, it does. Forgot. :P05:17
dr_willisheh i was just wondering why my sound wasent working.. then resized i was on my widnows box using XDMCP and XMING to get an xdispley on it. :)05:17
mrwinstonKr4t05: id use amsn if kopete didnt support the msn protocol05:17
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Kr4t05As for AIM, dunno what to tell you... I'm not sure if gaim/pidgin supports video, yet.05:17
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Kr4t05Hrm... Maybe this drive is like those other goofy ones where I need to hold in the eject button after loading a disc in order to get the higher speeds.05:19
Kr4t05flaccid: I had a Samsung like that, I think...05:19
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strabeswhy are the backup folders created by sbackup only readable by root? How can I change this?05:26
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about perms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:29
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ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs05:35
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rayluCan someone help me with a Ubuntu install?05:50
rayluactually, it gave me the same error as Kubuntu05:51
Feldegastin kde you can enable the "desktop menu" which puts a menu at the top of the screen, right click desktop -> configure Desktop > behaviour, in kubuntu 6.10 it was left aligned, in 7.04 it is now "sort of" centered, any way to fix this?05:52
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bonbonthejonraylu: whats the error05:54
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dsmith_anyone know about enabling SD cards?05:57
bonbonthejon!question | dsmith_05:58
ubotudsmith_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:58
dsmith_that was my question.. :P05:58
bonbonthejonsomewhat, whats the problem05:58
dsmith_revise: Does SD cards work in Ubuntu?05:59
spawn57you mean encrypted ones?05:59
bonbonthejondsmith_: I have a SD card reader, it works fine05:59
dsmith_no just vanilla ones05:59
dsmith_mine is built into my laptop05:59
spawn57just plug it into the card reader05:59
bonbonthejondsmith_: probably05:59
spawn57and an icon will pop up on your desktop05:59
dsmith_do I need to edit fstab?05:59
spawn57hal and pmount will take care of it06:00
bonbonthejondsmith_: it will be like a cd, it will show an icon06:00
dsmith_nah, no icons06:00
dsmith_my usb works fine06:00
dsmith_so does the cd06:00
spawn57open up a console and type dmesg06:00
dsmith_one sec06:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:01
spawn57one sec06:02
dsmith_im reading it as well06:02
spawn57the last few lines are all you need to look at06:02
spawn57your sd card isn't being detected06:03
spawn57can you unplug and plug in the usb card reader again?06:03
dsmith_one min06:03
dsmith_showing the same06:04
dsmith_not seeing it06:04
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spawn57nothing detected?06:04
spawn57it works in windows right?06:04
bonbonthejondsmith_: you have a new HP?06:04
dsmith_i believe06:05
dsmith_I'd have to look at the bios06:05
spawn57bonbonthejon: are they ide card readers?06:05
bonbonthejonspawn57: pci, at least lspci lists it06:06
spawn57a pci card reader?06:06
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spawn57dsmith_: didja try that module06:07
dsmith_im about to06:07
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t3hfr3aki need help setting up my TV connected to my computer VIA SVIDEO06:09
t3hfr3akrunning ubuntu 7.0406:09
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bonbonthejont3hfr3ak: you'd probably be better off searching on google06:11
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t3hfr3aki did... and the tut i found didnt work06:11
arunhey, people.. does any one use koffice in here?06:12
dsmith_i dont06:12
t3hfr3akarun; that open office correect?06:12
arunno, open office and koffice are different06:12
dsmith_spawn57: that module change did not work06:12
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spawn57i would stay and help, but I'm bout to meet up with friends now man06:13
arunOpenOffice has it's own ugly font rendering which I really hate.. my fonts look OS X-sexy for all other apps06:13
arunand look so crappy in openoffice06:13
spawn57i'll try looking into it, drop me an e-mail on your hardware, do lspci and paste me the output.06:13
dsmith_lspci shows it06:13
spawn57addy is spawn57@yahoo.com06:14
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spawn57i'll get back to you later tonight06:14
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t3hfr3akherzi; you know anything about setting up SVIDEO with 7.04?06:15
bonbonthejon!es | herzi06:15
ubotuherzi: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:15
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herzidesculpe jo no sabia que eras en espaol06:16
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:16
herzidsmith, what is u problem?06:16
dsmith_I was teating my connection, http access is down but irc works fine06:17
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aruni was like teating? err...06:17
t3hfr3akdrsmith_: restart router06:17
herzigood! what u from?06:17
dsmith_I know about restarting router06:17
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arunhey lobster06:20
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arunseriously, no one uses koffice here?06:22
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bs_ascomo estan?06:22
hitmanWilly!es | bs_as06:23
ubotubs_as: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:23
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lobsterI dont use koffice, but I might be able to help.06:27
lobsteranyone familiar with samba?06:27
hitmanWillylobster: a little, what's up?06:28
lobsterI want to mount my cd drives over the network; if I mount /media/cdrom0 will it register on my network?06:29
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lobsterI have two cds mounted now, but cdrom0 and cdrom1 are empty?06:29
hitmanWillylobster: no, you have to set it up as a samba share06:29
pingvenoarun: I use koffice sometimes06:29
pingvenoIt's general quicker than OpenOffice06:30
lobsterhitmanwilly: thats what I mean.  I set them up as shared folders in systemsettings, sharing06:30
pingvenoUnfortunately, it doesn't have writing to .doc files :(06:30
hitmanWillylobster: it won't let you connect? hmmm.....06:31
lobsterhitmanwilly: will that do it, though? there is nothing in the cdrom files, and I can see the mounted cds under their names....06:31
kalorin_that's so funny06:31
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hitmanWillylobster: most of my experience goes the other way, but let me see06:31
kalorin_runnin x11vnc and trying to connect to my box at work06:31
kalorin_the screen saver is taking so much to redraw I can't unlock it06:31
pingvenoI'm trying to figure out a problem I'm having with Amarok. It's not playing .aiff files for some reason06:31
kalorin_had to ssh to it and kill it manually06:31
pingvenoIt's something to do with the xine engine, I think06:32
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arunpingveno: does openoffice on your computer also render fonts in its own ugly way?06:33
bryanHey everyone, Im sure this is ANNOYing, but, does anyone have a few seconds to help out someone who just installed Kubuntu on Macbook?06:33
bryanjust having a few probs :)06:33
pingvenoarun: no06:34
pingvenoWell, it's a bit subjective06:34
pingvenoI suppose the antialiasing could be taken as being too harsh06:34
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hitmanWillylobster: all the links i can fseem to find are for mounting windows shares under nix, hmmm06:35
lobsteryeah, me too06:36
hitmanWillylobster: and i haven't run a windows box for a while :)06:37
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kalorin_now how come the remote desktop vnc client can't deal with turning remote 32bit color to 8bit local color06:38
kalorin_so I don' thave to sit here for EVERY when it's redrawing things06:38
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pingvenoI get the error "filename.aff: Error while parsing header" when I run ffmpeg on an aiff file, even though the file runs perfectly through sox06:38
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pingvenooops, filename.aiff06:39
pingvenoI think that's giving me problems with amarok06:39
debianola alguem conhece algum site de matematica?06:39
lobsterhmm.  It doesn't seem to want to accept my password?06:39
debiantem algum portugues aqui?06:40
debianque merda de lugar06:40
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hitmanWillylobster: you may want to setup a seperate account just for remote access, put it in the group that owns the cdrom drive, and use that...i don't know if ubu allows remote access for admin accounts remotely06:43
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arunopenoffice renders my fonts like windows 95, exactly like that, while the fonts on everything are rendered really nicely, OSX style06:44
arunI had this problem with Dapper as well, which got fixed in Edgy06:45
pingvenoWould a screenshot show the problem?06:45
arunnow it's back to the same old thing, I'm looking it up online, apparently it's a bug in openoffice06:45
arunyeah, sure hold on06:45
hitmanWillyanyway, got to go...work tomorrow :(06:45
redshadowheroso, how would one use kubuntu to interact on a network with windows computers?06:46
redshadowheroI have no idea.06:46
lobsterredshadow: that is what I am trying to do.06:46
redshadowheroHa ha.06:47
redshadowheroI'm used to the OSX way of doing it: a nice shortcut in finder.06:47
lobsterI just found out how, with samba06:47
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redshadowheroPlease, enlighten me.06:47
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dsmith_does anyone use Keep backup?06:48
arunpingveno: screenshot in openoffice -- http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/382/snapshotoorp9.png  |  screenshot in koffice of pretty much the same text and font -- http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2452/snapshotkowh3.png06:48
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arunpingveno: see how the fonts in the menus are rendered as well06:49
pingvenoI have the same font rendering, I think06:49
lobstersee above redshadowhero06:49
arundo you see the massive difference06:49
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Jake08anyone here able to help my through a difficult install of Kubuntu?06:50
lobsterbasically apt install samba, set up share folders and create share users06:50
redshadowheroah, thank you.06:50
dsmith_jake08: whats wrong06:50
Jake08I am getting /bin/sh: can'06:50
pingvenoarun: I see what you mean by ugly rendering, but I don't think that's an actual bug06:50
Jake08t access tty; job control turned off06:50
Jake08sorry for the two lines... well now three06:50
arunpingveno: what do you think that is06:50
dsmith_hmmm, never saw that one before06:51
Jake08Yeah not on the forums either :(06:51
pingvenoarun: I'm sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean06:51
Jake08getting a prompt before the error...06:51
Jake08BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian) 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) built-in shell (ash)06:52
dsmith_you know what06:52
Jake08Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands06:52
dsmith_I had that dern busybox thingy once before06:52
dsmith_I had to do a complete reinstall06:52
dsmith_is it a empty drive?06:52
Jake08Yeah this is not my first full install06:52
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Jake08I went ahead and let it take over the full drive yeah06:53
arunpingveno: you said that's not a bug, how so?06:53
dsmith_so this is a new driver formatted and such06:53
dsmith_but kubuntu wont start>06:53
pingvenoarun: Well, I think it's not an actual bug, just an engine that doesn't produce particularly nice rendering06:53
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Jake08yeah, I mean not totally new it had vista home basic on it before06:53
felixhello jake06:53
felixhello dsmith06:54
Jake08hey felix..06:54
dsmith_did you get to format it?06:54
pingvenoarun: The Ubuntu bug I saw had really, really ugly rendering06:54
dsmith_hello felix06:54
Jake08yes i did06:54
felixi'm a newbie here at kubuntu06:54
felixthanks jake and dsmith for your warm welcome06:54
dsmith_Jake08: I never did figure that one out06:54
dsmith_i was perplaxed and no one could seem to help06:54
felixi'm from philippines06:54
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arunpingveno: the font rendering isn't that ugly for everyone, that's the thing06:55
Jake08well I know it is backwards from normal, I started with the Alternate CD this time because of trouble in the past, I just finished the regular disc should I try it?06:55
arunon some PCs it shows nice rendering06:55
pingvenoarun: huh06:55
pingvenoarun: interesting06:55
dsmith_try another disc this time and see if that works06:55
dsmith_I have had a few bad images myself before06:55
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dsmith_or they burned poor06:56
pingvenoarun: yeah, I agree. I just took a second look at the rendering on my copy and I suppose it does have problems06:56
Jake08Yeah I would worry about miss downloads but I am bittorrenting it which was recommended because of the on the fly crc checking06:56
pingvenoThe l's and the d's being too close together06:56
Jake08and no the burner is fine I use it pretty frequently with no troubles06:56
dsmith_crc checking is nice06:56
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arunpingveno: i looked up some stuff about it on google, seems like openoffice keeps having this problem for some versions06:57
arunwell, i guess i'll stick to using kword or google docs06:57
Jake08much better than waiting 20 minutes for the download to find out that it was a bad downloaded06:57
dsmith_openoffice is nice06:57
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zeekstarrhow do i burn a video dvd from an avi? I've tried with k3b but I'm messing it up somehow06:57
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pingvenokword's definitely a good program06:57
felixwhere can download kword?06:57
pingvenoapt-get install kword06:57
arunfelix: just look for kword in adept06:57
dsmith_kubuntu should already have it06:57
arunand install it06:57
arundsmith_: screenshot in openoffice -- http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/382/snapshotoorp9.png  |  screenshot in koffice of pretty much the same text and font -- http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2452/snapshotkowh3.png06:57
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pingvenoK Menu > Office > KWord (Word Processing)06:59
felixarun, where is adept located...sorry newbie here06:59
dsmith_felix: Follow pingveno06:59
arunfelix: kmenu > system > adept manager06:59
arunyou can install and upgrade anything from here, hassle-free06:59
dsmith_Kubuntu has kword already installed06:59
arundsmith_: mine didn't come with kword06:59
dsmith_well not from IRC, but from konsole06:59
levi_How would I fix broken video codecs?07:00
dsmith_oh well then he can install it07:00
felixi only have here is openoffice.org07:00
dsmith_arun: I thought kde included kword?07:00
levi_you should have Kate07:00
felixi did not see kword07:00
dsmith_felix: sudo apt-get install kword07:00
arundsmith_: no, apparently in kubuntu, you have to install koffice separately07:00
felixthanks arun07:00
Jucatodsmith_: Kubuntu doesn't by default07:00
dsmith_hmmmm ok07:00
Jucatodsmith_: also, KDE doesn't really install KOffice by default either07:01
arunfelix: search for 'kword' or 'koffice' in adept07:01
arunyou will see a list of results07:01
dsmith_then perhaps its07:01
dsmith_felix: sudo apt-get install koffice07:01
zeekstarravi to video dvd?07:01
dsmith_felix: I was a beginning Linux user a year ago, there are tons of ppl here to help you07:02
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arunok, i gotta get some breakfast, see you guys in a bit07:02
dsmith_save some bacon07:02
levi_No, as in Videos will no longer play unles I use Opengl which is choppy and laggy.07:02
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felixguys, this message appears: Package koffice is not available,07:03
felixbut is referred to by another package.07:03
felixThis may mean that the package is missing,07:04
felixhas been obsoleted, or07:04
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:04
felixis only available from another source07:04
levi_How would I get Kubuntu 6 to ICS07:05
levi_and file share?07:05
felixPackage koffice has no installation candidate07:06
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nimbletry sudo apt-get update07:07
omarque tal07:08
omarsaludos a todas las chicas guapas07:08
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pingveno!es | bs_as07:10
ubotubs_as: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:10
pingvenoI think that's right notice :/07:11
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pingvenoI just love Babel Fish's translation of the es message07:12
pingveno"If it looks for aid in Spanish please between in the channels # ubuntu-is, # kubuntu-is or # edubuntu-is, will obtain but aid there."07:12
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Sleepy_Coderlol, pingveno07:15
pingvenoSo, does anyone have any clue what's happening with the aiff issue?07:15
pingvenoamarok not being able to open aiff files07:16
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hendaussomebody help me please!07:20
felixthanks nimble07:21
felixi would like to help you hendaus but i'm just a newbie at linux07:21
felixthanks dsmith07:21
hendausfelix thanx, is there an amule if i want to copy my link as friend and send it to my friends to add me?07:22
felixsorry hendaus, i don't know the answer.07:23
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felixyou may want to try google for that07:23
hendausfelix,  dont worry , maybe some one use amule and they could help me :)07:23
felixyeah, hendaus. have a good day then07:25
felixhope you can find the answers to your questions and worries07:25
felixneed to go..07:25
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AngelinHello World I need some help07:28
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Angelinis there someone here who's able to help me ? ^^07:28
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TuTuFFwhassup Angelin?07:32
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Angelinhum I would like to shut down grub (sorry if the words aren't very good employed but I'm French :p)07:33
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maxisnt there a terminal command to change all parts of the sources.list that say edgy to feisty?07:36
Angelinmmh I don't think so :p07:37
AngelinSo TuTuFF can you help me ?07:37
nimbleyou mean just a find and replace?07:37
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Angelini didn't understand that max sorry07:37
maxno prob07:37
maxso does anyone know it?07:39
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nimbleyou could probably make one pretty fast if it needs to be only a terminal command07:41
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)07:41
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nimbleis there a reason you cant just open it in a text editor and find and replace from there?07:42
max  sudo sed -e 's/\sedgy/ feisty/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list07:42
maxthere it is07:42
maxcause thats alot easier07:43
Jucatovim, then, :%s/edgy/feisty/g ?07:43
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robotgeekwhy aren't we using the nice dist-upgrade tool?07:44
unix_infidelanyone here running ubuntu on a Dell D620?07:44
maxbecause i think its easier in the term07:44
Jucatothe dist-upgrade wouldn't even require you to edit anything...07:45
Jucato(when it works...)07:45
maxi didnt edit anything07:45
acemoFailed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1/./Packages.gz  404 Not Found anyone else is unable to fetch the kde4 packages?07:45
maxi just did "sudo sed -e 's/\sedgy/ feisty/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list " and now im donig a dist-upgrade07:45
nixternalacemo: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1 feisty main07:45
nixternalput that in your sources.list07:45
nixternalacemo: just so you know, the uploads aren't complete. so you won't get to play with any of the kde-extras at all. that is just a base kde4 buildout07:46
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maxkde4 is in alpha right now right?07:46
Jucatomax: the advantage of the dist-upgrade tool is that 1) it makes sure you have the necessary packages to properly dist-upgrade (stuff like kubuntu-desktop) and 2) it disables all other repositories that may conflict with the upgrade07:46
nixternalmax: correct07:46
Jucatomax: yep07:46
acemonixternal: tnx, u think i should wait till the uploads are complete? how long should that take?07:47
maxJucato: acctually this is Xubuntu, and im uninstalling the xubuntu-desktop to get the ubuntustudio-desktop and all its stuff07:47
Jucatoum... and let me guess, no one is answering you in #xubuntu ?07:47
maxwhen i connected to konversation it went here07:47
Jucatoah I see07:48
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Jucatothe guys over at #xubuntu might know better on how to dist-upgrade07:48
maxand since all the *buntus are basically the same it dosnt really matter07:48
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Jucatowell, yes *and* no07:48
nixternalacemo: there is no telling seeing as the man uptop with the @ is at UDS or in transit back home07:48
nixternalI have half of the extra modules built, but amd64 only right now07:49
maximy main hd is kubuntu, i originally installed dapper and ive always done manual upgrades with it, no problems yet07:49
Jucatoyou have to remember that you're not only upgrading the base packages, but the desktop-specific packages as well07:49
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carutsuI have a small sound problem, sound is only coming from one speaker only, i found the problem is on alsamixer as left speaker is muted, however the real problem is that i fix it and it works only for that session i doesnt save, once i restart i gotta do it again07:54
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flowingfireHey there... Does anybody here happen to use VirtualBox?07:57
carutsuthat and i need to stop checking the disk, i forgot where to change the 1 to 0, xD07:58
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flowingfireI'm typing to you from VirtualBox right now, and I can't get out... lol.  What command can I use to re-gain control of linux instead of being stuck in VirtualBox?07:58
carutsuflowingfire: google is your friend http://www.virtualbox.org/download/UserManual.pdf07:59
nixternalor is that vmware? I think they are the same though07:59
flowingfirelol... I tried ctrl-alt, nixternal. :)  Carutsu-- thanks for the link. :)08:00
carutsuflowingfire: no problem08:00
flowingfireBut I'm kinda laughing at myself right now too. :)08:00
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nixternalhahaha, I am laughing at you as well ;p08:00
carutsunixternal: what for?08:00
nixternalI have only used VBox for 5 minutes and the window sizing annoyed me on my widescreen08:00
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Jucatoheh :)08:00
carutsuhave anyone read my question?08:01
nixternalit wouldn't shrink down like vmware does/did08:01
flowingfireheh.... Well, I'm hoping to get seamless integration w/ windows.  (Yeah right.)08:01
Admiral_Chicagoi reda your question, not sure how to help you08:01
nixternalcarutsu: I seen the question, but I am lost. when it comes to sound I am out of it08:01
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carutsuAdmiral_Chicago, nixternal well gotta fix it by hand every time, not very annoying08:02
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Jucato!away > lobster08:02
nixternalno, that *sounds* very annoying :)08:03
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carutsuand how about the fsck? _that's_ annoying as windows have some error or something in the disk and every time i boot i gotta wait for it to check it08:03
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: chicagoans08:03
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Jucatoah ok. I'll *try* to remember that :)08:03
n8k99they're all from chitonw08:03
raidmaxhey can anyone help me validate cgi text fields08:03
nixternal1am, wow it is late08:04
nixternalraidmax: how are you trying to validate?08:04
raidmaxusing regular expressions08:04
raidmaxusing perl08:04
nixternalbeen a while since I messed with cdi08:04
nixternalraidmax: you can try #perl08:04
nixternalthey are pretty quick to knock you out with their minds08:04
raidmaxwats dat08:04
nixternalaother IRC channel08:04
mendredhi when i use beryl with mplayer i get a border around the player window when it is skinned..any workarounds?08:05
raidmaxhow do i use that08:05
carutsunixternal: near everywhere in #c++ are pretty rude too08:05
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Jucatomendred: hm.. try #beryl or #ubuntu-effects08:05
carutsuJucato: well is the same, is a redirection, isn't it? whi does it have two #?08:05
nixternalya, the c++ guys annoy the hell out of me at times08:05
mendredJucato: thanks08:05
nixternalcarutsu: something about being official and un-official or private or something08:06
Jucatocarutsu: I forgot the reason. something about the official status of the channel08:06
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Jucatosee? nixternal confirmed it :P08:06
carutsunixternal, Jucato ok08:06
nixternalya, I read it somewhere I think08:06
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MrDigimonIs anyone here?08:10
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MrDigimonpeople here look kinda...dead08:12
Jucatohm... it's a weekend, it's almost night/dawn at one part of the world, hm...08:13
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MrDigimonhere in northern europe its morning08:13
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nixternalhere in Chicago it is morning as well ;)08:14
Skrot-1.14AM in Chicago? :p08:14
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nixternalroy d. mercer?08:15
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Skrot-What now?08:17
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MrDigimonno idea08:17
MrDigimonhow many of u in here have updated to kde 4?08:20
Jucatoum... for what purpose?08:20
carutsuMrDigimon: updated? only kamikaze-ones08:20
Jucatokde 4 is still alpha. nothing much to upgrade to08:20
MrDigimonjust wondering :P08:21
carutsuit's first alpha, it will be so buggy that you will barely have time to blink between crashes08:21
MrDigimonthen i dont think i should update my comp crashes enough08:22
carutsuMrDigimon: crashes? my only crashes are konqueror's ones... and weird enough after i close it xD08:23
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carutsuoh an OOo ones when i try to, say, install a new dictionary08:23
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MrDigimonkonquror chrashes much here too but i dont think it have been any for awhile now08:24
nimblekonqueror only crashes for me ive been watching flash stuff08:26
nimble(not always)08:26
carutsummm, when i close konqueror somtimes i get the error screen, and I'm like 'er i already closed it, oh well'08:26
carutsuwould anyone of you make me a favor? can you open the assistant for OOo and try to install a new dictionary? still crashes here so I'm reporting it but i'd like a confirmation08:27
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MrDigimonhave anyone had problem with slow internet?08:28
carutsunevermind it's already reported08:28
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xonecasHi, I just instaled kubuntu feisty08:28
carutsuMrDigimon: nop, actually i have a better performace in linux than windows, weird eh08:28
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carutsuxonecas: hi08:28
MrDigimoni have it the other way that its faster in windows08:28
xonecasI have the broadcom 43xx wireless08:28
xonecashow do I make it work ? ndiswrapper ?08:29
xonecascarutsu:  HI08:29
MrDigimoni have tried to install firestarter, it became a bit faster, and i have disabled the ipv608:29
MrDigimonbut its still slow ;(08:30
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carutsuxonecas: I have no clue, have you googled it?08:31
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carutsuxonecas: remember young padawan google is your friend: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40599008:31
matt__hi, could I ask a question on vm servers?08:31
MrDigimonive tried but its always the same thing that shows up: the ipv6 tunnel or firestarter08:31
carutsumatt__: you may but i dont really think it'll be solved here, and remember08:32
ubotumatt__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:32
carutsuMrDigimon: i wish i could be more usefull however it's been strightforward to me08:32
matt__is vmware opensource and 'supported' on kubuntu?08:32
LynoureRecently most of the podcasts I'm subscribed with with Amarok started showing duplicate entries. How can I fix it?08:33
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carutsumatt__: first and most important of all google something it'll save you time, for some vmware information go to http://www.vmware.com/08:34
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carutsumatt__: as far as i know its not opensource but freeware08:35
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carutsumatt__: if you are a purist you may try virtualbox which isopensource08:35
ubotumatt__: VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox08:36
matt__ok, id rather use open source, Im just looking at xen in adapt08:36
carutsuthere are plenty of choices, "Virtual PC", "BOCHS" and "QEMU" are GPL too08:37
carutsumatt__:: and finally if you are interested in vmware, you may find usefull: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_fawn_vmware_server_howto08:38
Hirvinenmatt__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=comparison+of+virtual+machines08:38
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MrDigimonhave anyone here tried to install Windows Xp with Qemu?08:39
carutsunope, have you?08:39
matt__ok, I think virtualbox looks good, im going to try and install it!08:39
MrDigimoni tried but it froze when it tried to install the devices08:39
nimbledoes anyone else have this problem where the first keypress after booting up doesnt register?08:39
carutsuwhat I'm wondering right now is if i can run an already installed winxp with any of those... i already have it installed and as i dont have a recovery cd... it'll be ard to reinstall08:40
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matt__actually, changed my mind, gonna go with xen as its in adept08:41
MrDigimoncarutsu: i have no idea08:42
carutsumatt__: be my guest, that's the good thing about opensource it's really up to you08:42
matt__does anyone know which package will install it? is it ubuntu-xen-desktop?08:42
carutsuMrDigimon: yesm after they discovered HDD recovery they became cheap08:43
matt__carutsu, yes, I like open source!08:43
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carutsuguys gotta have some sleep08:44
carutsusee you all around08:45
MrDigimonsmell ya later XD08:45
carutsuerr ok, i was expecting a "read you later instead" xD08:45
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MrDigimonwell it works too08:46
carutsukernel panic carutsu doesnt recogniced the parameter "smell" and tried to kill init08:46
matt__ ubuntu-xen-desktop says This package will install a suite of software for running Xen on SERVERS?08:46
matt__is this just a mistake in the description?08:46
carutsumatt__: a server is any host computer, isnt it?08:46
matt__thank you carutsu08:47
carutsumatt__: np08:47
carutsuhope you dont have problems08:47
carutsucheck out any good tutorial on the net08:47
carutsumatt__ remember google anything you want it'll be very usefull and you'll learn08:48
carutsumatt__ good luck08:48
matt__ubuntu-xen-desktop - it doesnt install any gnome dependencies does it? do you know?08:48
carutsumat__ oops, i dont know, mmm may be the gui, a lot of gui's are made in gtk for portability (i think)08:49
MrDigimoncarutsu: didnt u say that u needed some sleep?08:49
carutsuMrDigimon: err well i do08:49
carutsuMrDigimon: xD08:50
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carutsuMrDigimon: take good care of matt__, and tell aunt sarah i will not go back for christmass08:50
matt__night carutsu, thanks for your help08:50
carutsumatt__ np glad to be usefull08:51
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carutsuwell see you around08:51
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!08:52
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matt__MrDigimon, ive installed xen, but i;ve looked in the start menu to find it, but its not there08:54
matt__how do I start xen do you know?08:54
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MrDigimontried to start via shell?08:54
MrDigimonit might work, and if it dont, i dont have any idea08:55
MilhousePunkRockdoes anyone know if feisty's logout dialog is available for other distros too?08:55
MilhousePunkRockbecause I would really like to have it on my gentoo box too...08:56
MrDigimoni have no idea08:56
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: no it isn't08:56
Jucatomatt__: I think you "run" Xen as a separate session, from the login menu. not really sure though08:57
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy08:57
MilhousePunkRockJucato: So I don't need to browse through kde-apps all day anyway?08:57
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Jucatoyou could probably apt-get source the code, but I'm not sure where it is.08:58
Jucatoit's just a patch to the current logout dialog anyway, so it might be in kdebase08:59
Jucatoor ksmserver.. hm... let me see...08:59
matt__thank you ubotu08:59
sebastian_kubuntu es?08:59
sebastian_somebody help my?08:59
Jucatomatt__: ubotu is a bot :)08:59
Jucato!ubotu | matt__08:59
ubotumatt__: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:59
Jucatobah wrong factoid... but anyway...08:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about turing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:00
neptunepink!turing test09:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about turing test - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:00
neptunepinkah, well, you pass it anyways. :)09:00
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: the relevant package/app seems to be ksmserver09:01
matt__well you learn something new every day! lol09:01
MilhousePunkRockJucato: Yeah, I think so too, of course I spent some time with google before comming here...09:02
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MrDigimonhow many of u have friends that always tells u to change from linux to windows?09:05
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matt__yes, I do09:06
MrDigimonits annoying isnt it?09:06
matt__sorry, i miss-read the question, no, I tell people to change to linux09:07
MrDigimonok, i do the same thing but its hard to get them to do it09:07
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matt__what do you think is the main reason why it is difficult to convert?09:08
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MilhousePunkRockmatt__: Games, followed by laziness09:08
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MrDigimonall of them allways think of the games in windows so they dont want to change(even if it doesnt exist virus on linux )09:09
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MrDigimonan they are allways scared of something they dont know anything of09:09
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Jucato"change" is the main reason09:10
matt__i agree, games is a big one, also I dont think people understand what an operating system is09:10
matt__so when they want to install a program, they dont understand why they cannot09:10
MrDigimonbut it exits some funny games on linux like Supertux (super mario)09:12
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matt__thanks for your help today guys, but im off now, ill be on later asking for more help! lol!09:12
MrDigimondont ask to much, we can get tired of u lol09:13
LynoureStrigi-daemon seems to crash every time I start indexing09:18
MrDigimonis strigi-daemon like daemon tools for windows or is it something else?09:19
LynoureMrDigimon: it's a daemon for desktop search09:19
JucatoMrDigimon: a daemon is the term for "background service/process" in Linux09:20
Jucatonothing to do with Daemon Tools09:20
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MrDigimonok, i was just wondering when they nearly had the same name09:20
Jucatowell, daemons existed looong before Daemon Tools :)09:21
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MrDigimonthx for explaining, i havent used linux for so long yet09:22
MrDigimonbut i still havent got a clue to help u lol09:23
Jucatonot me though :)09:23
MrDigimonbut im sure u will get that working sooner or later09:24
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LynoureMrDigimon: I gave up on it for now. I can pretty much remember where I keep my files for now. Heard it is going to be in KDE4, so maybe it will work then =)09:26
MrDigimonhopefully it will09:26
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LynoureHmm, I started wondering if there is some setting for menu exit sensitivity...09:29
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LynoureWith long konqueror bookmark folder hierarchies I sometimes accidentally more the mouse subtly wrong, exiting the menu accidentally09:30
nimblemenu exit sensitivity?09:34
Lynourenimble: I just tried to explain what I meant. If it did not help, can you tell which part was left weird?09:35
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Lynourenimble: I don't know if such setting exist, so I also do not know what they'd call it.09:36
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nimblewell my menu only exits when i click or move the cursor to a different submenu (and im moving the mouse more down than across)09:36
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nimbleactually its as long as im not moving it too fast09:37
Lynourenimble: not when you accidentally move the mouse 1px outside the submenu into the root level menu?09:37
Lynourenimble: it's especially frustrating when the submenu you are in is 5th level or so :)09:39
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MrDigimonread u later dudes, we gonna have guests...09:39
nimbleah, well its based on the speed youre moving the mouse09:39
nimbleif youre moving the mouse fast then it wont go09:39
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Lynourenimble: so it is especially hard for slow and clumsy people? Weird.09:40
nimbleyou must have a lot of bookmarks if theres 5 levels09:42
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LynoureBut actually I cannot even do the speed that would stop me from going to the root level vertically. Horizontally there seems to be a limit09:43
Lynourenimble: about 2000, maybe09:44
nimblemaybe itd be faster and easier to use the bookmarks search09:44
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dettoaltrimentiin kdm theme manager, it says I need to be administrator to make changes, but there's no 'administrator' button09:46
Lynourenimble: unfortunately not fast or easy, as I often do not know the specific site name or even wether it is Finnish or English09:46
Lynourenimble: so, do you have speedlimit on the vertical leap?09:47
nimblemine seems to be based purely on mouse, not whether its horizontal or vertical09:48
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nimblei can open a window and just wave the mouse around over the root menu and the submenu stays open09:48
Lynourenimble: you meant mouse speed?09:49
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Lynourenimble: Do you know if there is any way of adjusting the speedlimit?09:49
flaccidjack be nimble, jack be quick, jack uses kde instead of a candlestick09:49
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misolaxsu tu slovaci???09:50
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pag!sl | misolax__09:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:50
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nimbleno sorry09:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:51
se7en_somebody uses a Satellite P205-S6287 toshiba notebook?09:51
pagno luck :-/09:51
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nimblei expect it wouldnt be too hard to change within the code09:51
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Jucato!cz | misolax__09:53
ubotumisolax__: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.09:53
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LynoureHaving like 0.5 second delay on exiting would be ideal for me.09:53
Lynourenimble: Maybe I'll try that some day :)09:54
LynoureHah, found a workaround, arrow keys.09:54
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ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:55
flaccidanyone seen kubuntu specific beryl guides?09:56
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nimbleits pretty much the same as ubuntu09:56
flaccidit is the same09:56
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flaccidkubuntu users can get confused when there are gnome specific instructions09:57
flaccidok it is in the wiki09:58
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flaccidJucato: wonder if we can get a #kubuntu specific trigger for ubotu to advise that link09:58
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_RadioHeadflaccid: :)10:07
_RadioHeadflaccid: why i can`t use internet when i use dhcp configuration on eth0 ?10:08
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flaccidi don't know10:08
flaccidneed more information10:08
flacciddoes /etc/resolv.conf have nameservers?10:08
EyeVisionssolved problem screensaver wound't start automatic. Do not uninstall laptop batterij even when your not on a laptop10:10
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EyeVisionsworks then oke here10:12
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_RadioHeadflaccid: moment10:15
_RadioHeadyes resolv.conf have nameservers10:16
_RadioHeaddo no why is that10:16
_RadioHeadif i give static ip then internet is working10:17
llutz_RadioHead: but your dhcp-server works ok?10:17
flaccidyes but when you use dhcp, are nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf ?10:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about surround - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:17
_RadioHeadllutz: 100%10:18
_RadioHeadflaccid: yes10:18
flaccidyou might want to check that is is giving the right ip. ifconfig10:18
_RadioHeadmore /etc/resolv.conf10:18
_RadioHeadnameservers IP10:18
_RadioHeadnameserver IP2310:18
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flaccidcheck the gateway in netstat -r10:18
cox37777hey all10:18
_RadioHeadflaccid: i think it is something with dhcp on ubuntu10:19
flaccidcheck your given IP address, broadcast, nameservers and gateway first10:20
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_RadioHeadflaccid: all work ok dude with other OS/PC10:20
flaccidmy dhcp doesn't even work on boot with my kubuntu feisty. quite ghey. and yeah ubuntu seems to have various dhcp issues in my experience too, usually becuase of networkmanager10:20
_RadioHeadi try slax , windows ...10:20
_RadioHeadsuse,slackware ...10:20
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flaccidi use freebsd myself10:21
EyeVisionsdon't use dhcp over here so i have no  problems10:22
_RadioHeadEyeVisions: when i give static ip it is ok everything10:23
_RadioHeadflaccid: :) i use freebsd before litle bit on 166Mhz :)10:23
EyeVisionsyep have no problems10:23
EyeVisionson kubuntu feisty10:23
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EyeVisionssome small things only10:24
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EyeVisionsls $KDEDIR/share/apps/konversation/scripts10:27
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stamenmy box can't mount automaticaly the CD-ROM10:31
stamenwhat can I do10:31
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stamenI am with faisty10:31
stamenI have problem only with CD-ROM10:31
stamenso what to do10:32
stamenplease help me10:32
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EyeVisionsyou have it mount it as root stamen10:36
stamenwhy as root10:36
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stamenbefore when I insert the disk10:36
stamenit has opened automativali10:36
EyeVisionsit was more for me if it then work10:37
stamenwhen I was with dapper, but now it wont10:37
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stamenand I want to make as it was before10:37
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zszis there a kubuntu livecd version that has kpat installed?10:39
_buzzsz: you can use apt-get on the live cd10:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kpat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:40
_buzits just that after a reboot, it wont be installed anymore, obviously10:40
zszsure I can but the one that's going to use it has never even touched linux10:40
MrDigimon_buz: because it's installed in the ramdisk10:41
_buzMrDigimon: yeah i know that ;910:41
_buzbut this helped me several times10:41
_buzbecause you can use obscure recovery tools that way quite easily10:42
zszso there isn't a livecd with kpat preinstalled...10:42
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zszis there a way I can preinstall it?10:44
zszbu modifying the cd image10:44
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zszyeah, I found a howto on building livecd, will try that. Thanks guys10:48
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stamenin the kernel which option responds to CD-ROM support10:59
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MrDigimonanyone alive in here?11:03
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pagMrDigimon, no :)11:04
zszMrDigimon, absolutely not11:04
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MrDigimontought so, hey waitamin....11:05
S-AngeliWhy I have never been able to print from kubuntu any print picture over a network printer?  I am able to print test pages but not pictures. The printrer is always showing "Printing in Progress" but never prints. From other linux distro and from windows it prints fine and fast11:05
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S-AngeliAny advice please?11:05
MrDigimonwhat are the model of the printer?11:06
S-AngeliHP LaserJet 1320n11:06
BlissexS-Angeli: the KDE print subsystem prints pictures *very* slowly.11:07
S-AngeliI see11:07
S-Angeli so it is not related to ubuntu but to kde?11:07
S-Angeliwhat about other desktop manager like gnome or others?11:07
S-Angeliare they the same?11:07
BlissexS-Angeli: try to print from GQView or from Firefox, might make a difference.11:08
S-AngeliI will try11:08
S-Angelithks then.11:08
BlissexS-Angeli: I suspect that the KDE print subsystem generates extremely inefficient Postscript.11:08
stamenso, somehow my cd-rom device is not recongnized in my system11:08
S-Angelidoes this happen on gnome too?11:08
stamenbut it works on windows, how can that happen, in my custom kernel support for ATAPI device is cheked11:09
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stamenwhere can be the mistake, can anybody tell me11:09
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stamenand in /dev for which will be the device there11:10
Blissexstamen: depends on what you mean by not recognized, what do you expect to happen.11:10
stamenBlissex: k3b does not see that I have CD-rom11:11
stamenwriter or reader11:11
stamenBlissex: it says that there is no such device11:11
stamenBlissex: and as I said, I have made a custom kernel, but the support for ATAPI device especialy CD-ROM is checked11:12
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stamenBlissex: and it should support it, but not :(11:12
markowhy i cant find the official ubuntu how-to ?11:12
Blissexstamen: try 'head /proc/ide/hd*/model'11:13
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stamenBlissex: in fstab is written to be /dev/sdc11:13
stamenBlissex: no I will try this11:13
Blissexstamen: have you got a SATA CD/DVD drive?11:13
stamenBlissex: head: cannot open `/proc/ide/hd*/model' for reading: No such file or directory11:13
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Blissexstamen: well then, that looks like your problem...11:14
stamenBlissex: no, but in new kubuntu it wants the divice to be with "s" instead of "h"11:14
Blissexstamen: unless your CD/DVD is SATA or external.11:14
stamenBlissex: it is IDE11:14
stamenBlissex: only ATA11:15
Blissexstamen: OK, then you know all you need to fix the kernel config.11:15
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stamenBlissex: yes but I have checked for both for SATA and ATA ATAPI11:15
stamenBlissex: and it should work but not11:15
Blissexstamen: sure, you have an ATAPI layer but no ATA chipset drivers.11:16
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stamenBlissex: where are this drivers placed if you remember?11:18
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stamento see, I think they are checked too11:18
stamenBlissex: is there a specific name for this ATA chipset drivers11:19
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Blissexstamen: under block devices and IDE. However what the above command says is that no IDE/ATA devices have been recognized.11:19
premier_hello, I just used a gparted liveCD to move my primary linux partition.  Everything seems to run just as it did before, but for some reason my konqueror bookmarks tab is broken.  Also, the KDE System Guard wont show the process table (something about a malformed XML file)11:19
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stamenBlissex: why should them be not reconized11:20
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Blissexstamen: beause you did not configure the relevant drivers. You need also to configure the IDE and CD drivers.11:21
stamenBlissex: I have this under block devices ->ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support  --->11:21
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stamenBlissex: where is this option for IDE and CD drivers in this menu ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support  --->11:21
premier_Also, (unrelated problem) sometimes when I plug in my ethernet cord (I'm on a laptop), knetworkmanager attempts to switch from wireless to ethernet, but it gets stuck in some loop and I can't get online.  killing and restarting knetworkmanager fixes this11:22
Blissexstamen: it is a bit pointless to discuss this in detail... You jsut have to configure the right drivers until you see the name of the drive returned by that command.11:22
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stamenBlissex: 10x11:22
Blissexpremier_: try to 'fsck' again. You may have unpleasant surprises.11:22
Blissexstamen: if you do 'head /proc/ide/*/model' you should see at least the names of the IDE chipsets you got.11:23
premier_Blissex: I know I shouldn't do fsck while online... should I reboot a liveCD?11:23
Blissexpremier_: yes...11:23
stamenBlissex: ok11:23
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Blissexpremier_: just copying files around should not break anything.11:23
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premier_Blissex: specifically, I expanded my primary linux partition (ext3) for a very full 55GB to 73GB and shrunk a windows partition (NTFS).  The windows partition was before the linux partition11:25
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Blissexstamen: this is what I get here: http://pastebin.ca/484569 note the two "pci" chipset drivers.11:25
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Blissexpremier_: that is always a bit of a dangerous operation. However just expanding and especially with 'ext3' should be quite safe. However you did not just expand.11:26
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premier_I didn't?11:26
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stamenBlissex: yes I saw it, but I must find the option in the kernel11:27
Blissexpremier_: because if you shrunk the NTFS partition and that was before the 'ext3' one that meant that the whole 'ext3' partition had to be shifted down.11:27
stamenBlissex: to enable all this11:27
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markowhy i can't find the official ubuntu how-to11:27
Blissexpremier_: straight expand happens only if one adds more space at the end of a partition.11:27
markois the server down11:27
premier_Blissex: oh, so shifting my partition was more than just copy pasta?  It had to make changes?11:27
stamenBlissex: when the /proc directory have to made11:28
Blissexpremier_: well, that probably involved rewriting everything.11:28
stamenBlissex: oo its made sorry11:28
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Blissexpremier_: a very slow operation too. Adding space to the end of a partition instead is very quick.11:28
premier_mmm.... well it did take an hour and a half to complete... alright I'll go run that fsck now11:28
lucahi everyone11:29
premier_yeah, that wasn't really possible11:29
tmskeHi, someone who can help me with getting a plugable belkin wireless card working, I tried howto's for ndiswrapper, but I can't get it working11:29
Blissexpremier_: hour and a half is way too fast for shifting 55GB same disk to same disk. Unless the shift was done really very cleverly (which is error prone).11:29
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Blissextmske: try #wireless and be prepared to be told that it is not supported...11:30
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lucaI'd need help - yesterday I somhow broke "important" parts of kde and system - cannot use mouse scroll in kde anymore (ut in gnome it functions) and, most importantly, suspension is not called if I use the graphic manager, I have to activate it with hibernate-ram, from the command line11:30
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markocan somebody give me a link11:32
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markofrom the official ubuntu how-to11:32
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tmskeBlissex: Ok I'll ask it there11:32
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Blissexmarko: your questions dont make a lot of sense to me. There are dozens of HOWTOs. depends what you want to do.11:33
ugaanyone knows if there's a way to enable the dvb-t module for kaffeine using kubuntu packages?11:33
Fahuadaimarko: try starting here - https://help.ubuntu.com/11:33
ugait's weird but they dont' seem to be enabled here11:33
markothe official how to11:33
markoi need the list of repos11:34
markoand i can't find it11:34
pag!repositories | marko11:34
ubotumarko: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:34
pagmarko, that one?11:34
markothe whole list11:35
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roadfishwhen I type "loadkeys dvorak" at a console window, I get "findkeymap: no such file or directory \n cannot open file dvorak" ... how do I fix this problem?11:36
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pagmarko, http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ <- here you can create sources.list for your own needs11:37
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markoi find the guide11:38
Jitenzcan anyone help me with pppoeconf11:38
markoi dont know why11:38
markoit isnt on the top page11:38
Jitenzi actually was able to setup pppoeconf11:38
markowhen you write ubuntu help or ubuntu how to11:38
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Jitenzbut i wanted to change the account so i ran it again and all messed up11:39
Jitenzany1 plz help11:40
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tmskeBlissex: there doesn't seem to be much activity there :-s11:40
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Jitenzhey guys, plz help me out.11:42
lucaplease help me. I am on the verge of formatting the ubuntu partition if I cannot get rid of these problems11:43
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pagluca, did you mess around with sudo, or simply with your account?11:45
lucayesterday there was some updte for the hal packages.11:45
lucaand then, I did something which maybe was totally stupid but definitely should not have broken the system this much...11:46
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lucaI have installed the kde4 libraries and packages and created a different session type11:46
lucashould not have touched the suspension and scroll though, I do not understand, frankly11:46
logixoulHi. I'm trying to use the Feisty LiveCD to fix my GRUB installation. I copied the /boot/grub dir from the installed partition into the LiveCD ramdisk root dir. Then sudo grub-install /dev/hda returns this error: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device. How do I fix this?11:46
pagluca, did you follow the instructions in the kubuntu announcement?11:47
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lucayes I did11:47
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roadfishhow do I generate keymaps for "loadkeys" in Ubuntu?11:47
sabayonuserhello, this is premier11:47
sabayonuserwhat is the command to check my disk?11:48
pagluca, does the scroll work in kde4 session?11:48
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logixoulsabayonuser: (also, type /nick premier)11:48
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lucaproblem is, I firt wrote the four lines in the shell (Export etc.), but when I realized the mistake, I corrected it immediately11:49
lucanot sure, give me 5 minutes to check :)11:49
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lucapag yes it functions11:52
Jitenzguys, i am really in trouble. help me11:52
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lucaI am in the kde4 session now, it functions11:52
rkviraniI have ubuntu, I just installed kde, how do I get the kubuntu theme?/11:53
lucasuspension though does not function even in gnome :(11:53
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lucarkvirani: have you installed the kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-artwork packages?11:53
rkviranikubuntu-desktop will reset all my settings even the boot splash11:54
rkviraniI just want the kubuntu default theme11:54
lucathen kubuntu-artwork I guess11:54
pagluca, hmm.. you could try to export those libraries to their right (=kde3) places11:55
rkviranikubuntu-artwork - There is no such.11:55
lucapag which one should they be?11:55
Jitenzwhich files get affected on setting pppoeconf.11:56
pagluca, heh :) *very* good question... I'll try to find them, but I can't promise anything11:56
lucarkvirani: ur right, dunno then :(11:56
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lucapag ok thanks...11:57
rkviranioh, I think its kde-style-polyester11:57
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lucain any case, just to see if the problem is simple11:57
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lucaafter I exported the libraries as per the article, to correct I gave the following commands:11:57
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lucaexport KDEHOME=~/.kde11:58
pagthe first should be: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde3/lib11:58
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rkviraniwhats the best irc client for KDE?11:58
fdovingrkvirani: konversation is nice.11:58
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lucapag there it is!11:58
pagrkvirani, imho it's konversation :)11:58
lucaI just did the export to /usr/lib11:58
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lucasame by me :)11:59
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rkviraniare there "desktop effects" for KDE?11:59
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lucapag ok, then the other two repairing commands were12:00
Jitenzrkvirani: try beryl12:00
logixoulrkvirani: yes, but compared to beryl's, they suck.12:00
lucaexport KDEDIR=/usr/kde312:00
pagluca, looks like they're all the same lines, just kde3 instead kde4  (except home, it's simply ~/.kde)12:00
lucaok, then, rebooting12:01
lucabut I fear this is not what causes the suspension problem...in any case, trying! :)12:01
rkviranithere we go12:02
rkviranithe kubuntu artwork is so much nicer12:02
rkviraniwhen I had kubuntu running two of my friends (one of them has been in IT for over 15 years) thought it was vista :D12:02
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phoenixbyrdI've seen nothing but bad reviews for vista12:04
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logixoulyou hang in /. too much ;)12:04
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rkviranimee to but its interesting12:04
logixoulmany mainstream sites recommended vista12:04
logixoulHey, I'm in the Feisty LiveCD, fixing my GRUB installation. I sudo chrooted into /media/hda2/boot/grub (hda2 is the installed partition). Then grub-install hd0 returns this error: /dev/hda4: Not found or not a block device. However, /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't mention hda4. How do I fix this?12:05
phoenixbyrdyea, they made it look pretty, but idk if I'd touch it12:05
rkviranilogixoul: thats cause many mainstream sites probably got paid to12:05
premierhow long should a disk check take on a 73GB hard drive?12:05
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rkviranipremier: depends what filesystem12:06
phoenixbyrdlogixoul, last grub error I had I reinstalled ... fixed the problem right away lol12:06
logixoulrkvirani: dunno, I haven't tried Vista yet.12:06
logixoulphoenixbyrd: yeah, uh, I'd like to skip that if possible :)12:06
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lucapag ok thumbs up for scrolling12:06
rkviraniI have, I ran it on my box for a while, its WindowsXP with eye-candy.  The problem is its extremely bloated, if you dont have 1gb ram it swaps just to open notepad, they say you should have 4gb ram... haha12:07
rkviranikonversation is nice :D12:07
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premiermepis os has a gui fsck utility and I don't think its working correctly... can I abort it safely?  it has a little console window but the console window isn't giving me any messages12:07
lucabut suspension does not function12:07
premieror a progress bar12:07
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premierrkvirani, and thats why we need 64 bit computers... so we can have 16 GB or ram for vista+112:08
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rkviraniWhats the theoretical limit for a 386, was it 8GB??12:09
premierbut only a portion of that is usuable12:09
rkviranipremier: no thanks, I think I will stick with linux :D12:09
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premierand 64 bit is still 386, its just expand12:09
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premierActually, I kinda want 64 bits... with open source software, its easy to transition12:10
premieralthough, I'm told I'm going to want 32 bits anyway12:10
rkviranipremier: true enough12:10
nimblenot that easy12:10
pagrkvirani, iirc thos fonts can be obtained from https://www.redhat.com/promo/fonts/12:10
nimbleflash doesnt have a native 64 bit version12:10
rkviraniI have a friend with a 64-bit dualcore AMD, he is running the 32bit version of windows...12:10
rkviranipag: thanks12:10
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roguejedixCan anyone tell me why my mouse cursor changes to an X when I hover over the kicker or its menus?12:11
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nimbleyou have to compile wine yourself as well (at least when i tried which was only a month or 2 back)12:11
lucaroguejedix: that's strange12:11
lucanimble: what?!?12:11
lucajust open adept_manager and install wine12:11
lucait's perfectly up to date....12:11
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nimblethere is/was no 64 bit wine package12:12
roguejedixluca: Yeah, I had to do a xserver-xorg reconfigure after the Edgy -> Feisty upgrade12:12
lucanimble: oh ok sorry :)12:12
lucaroguejedix: can't help you then, I am using a "clean" fesity isntall12:12
lucauhm dum de dum let's remove the system and reinstall it...12:13
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logixoulGuys, I'm in the Feisty LiveCD, fixing my bootloader. I sudo chrooted into /media/hda2/ (the installed partition). Then grub-install hd0 returns this error: /dev/hda4: Not found or not a block device. However, /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't mention hda4 or hd0,3. What should I do?12:15
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Fahuadairoguejedix :  you using a custom mouse icons theme?12:15
premierI'm getting an amd 64 this summer, and I'm going to install kubuntu, vista and debian... do you guys think I should take advantage of the 64 bit processor, or just stick to 32 bit OSes?12:16
rkviranilogixoul:  edit menu.lst and add the lines or modify the ones you require12:16
logixoulrkvirani: I re12:16
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logixoulrkvirani: I read through menu.lst and it seems all right12:16
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logixoulrkvirani: want me to paste it?12:16
rkviranilogixoul: nope12:17
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logixoulrkvirani: ok. any idea what could've gone wrong?12:17
rkviranilogixoul:  I will refer you to the gentoo grub instructions12:17
logixoulok, thanks12:18
roguejedixFahuadai: Not that I know of12:18
rkviranilogixoul: well first of all I do things manually, it gets stuff done.  And you will actually understand what you are doing and why you are doing it :D12:18
premierluca: are you running 64 bit?12:18
logixoulyeah, I'm trying to do that12:18
Fahuadaiwas thinking there theme might be missing an icon or two... but if you're using default then i'm not sure.12:18
Fahuadaithere = the^12:19
roguejedixMaybe something went wrong when I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:19
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rkviranilogixoul: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10#doc_chap2 refer to code listing 812:20
roguejedixAlthough it did the trick for the kinit error it was giving me12:20
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logixoulrkvirani: cool, no errors this time! thanks! rebooting...12:22
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frankyhi! is there anyone who know the repository which contents "winwrap"?12:23
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ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:25
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logixoulrkvirani: dude... awesome. thanks a million!12:26
rkviranilogixoul:  no problem12:26
rkviranisometimes apt doenst work, its very rare and it is the best package management solution out there but manual always does the trick :D plus you learn more :D12:26
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ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:29
HymnToLiferkvirani, no, it's not12:29
rkviraniHymnToLife: ?12:29
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HymnToLifeit "doesn't work" way too often to be considered "the best"12:29
minty1 of my moniyor wont wokjr can any1 help me12:30
roguejedixOkay, where'd my hide button for the kicker go?12:30
Fahuadai!software sources12:30
Fahuadaiack. bot not clever enough :(12:30
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Fahuadaianyone tell me or direct me to, how i can add 'bleeding edge' software repositories to my software sources in 7.04 ?12:31
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mintywhere is "system x server?12:32
logixoulhow do I find out the UUID of a partition?12:32
Benehey everyone =) I have a little question: How do I save all the usersettings and systemsettings and other things on an USB-Stick based Live!-System ?12:33
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BeneFahuadai , there is a file called sources.list I think. So you gotta open this file and write the sources you want to connect to for updating, installing things12:34
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Fahuadaibene thanks, but i was wanting to know the actualy location of the sources. (ie. http://kubuntu/bleeding... etc)12:35
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Fahuadaii know where to add the repository, i wanting to know where it's location is.12:36
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stoneythegoombadnloaded feisty desktop-i386 and alternate isos and verified checksums were good through iso burn. When booting with the CD got a invalid compressed format err=2. Thought it might be the MBR so wiped it and partition table with dd command. Booted without silent option and got spurious ack error with atkbd.c So I stripped to Video Card, CD/DVD, HDDs, and Keyboard. Now just get CRC error when trying to boot12:37
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stoneythegoombadoes anyone have options to pass to kernel to try and get around these errors12:41
rkviraniWhat is this "on screen display in konversation"?12:41
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rkviraniIm going to sleep12:42
rkviraniI am tired :D12:42
rkviraninight night12:43
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stoneythegoombahello ??? Do I have voice here?12:43
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about surround - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:45
frankyhi! how can i remove a repository of adept using Konsole?12:47
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Fahuadaifranky: try: nano /etc/apt/sources.list12:48
Fahuadaithat should open the list for you to edit12:49
pagfranky, do it with sudo ;)12:49
stoneythegoombahello can anyone help with install disk problems?12:49
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Fahuadaiyes sorry, put sudo in front of the command i said12:50
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frankyah ok12:50
Fahuadaisudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list12:50
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Fahuadaisudo  == super user do.  for when you need root access12:51
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markiewhat is the KDE program for GDesklets ?12:52
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frankythe problem is this: I've added a repository which doesn't work, when i closed the window to add repositories, adp told me that is impossible open atp database12:53
ahmadrovickI am new user here12:54
frankyan suggests me to use apt-setup or apt-get up... (none of the two works)12:54
pagmarkie, while not exacly the same, superkaramba works just fine12:54
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markiethat is the one.... but it is not on the installable program list is it ?12:55
pag!info superkaramba | markie12:55
ubotumarkie: superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 533 kB, installed size 1428 kB12:55
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mintyhow do i mount my windows hardrive12:56
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ahmadrovickcan ay body tell me the software for internetcafe12:56
_4strOfranky: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:56
ahmadrovickwhere i sould to download it12:56
markiepag: ah, i need to update the source list12:56
pagmarkie, so you have to have universe enabled to install superkaramba12:56
pag!universe | markie12:56
ubotumarkie: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:56
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franky_4strO i've done it but the source i've added doesn't appear12:57
_Pe-Te_Any idea how i can free up the space from files i sent to trashbin when my hd was full, they never showed up there, so cant fully delete them. the icons did vanish from desktop thou.12:57
stoneythegoombacan anyone help with install cd errors?12:58
_4strOfranky: did you look all the lines, particulary the first ?12:58
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ahmadrovickhello can anybody tellme where is it12:58
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_4strOahmadrovick: dont understand your question ...12:59
seishinbyouI don't really have a problem; I just am writing to let people know I converted an office full of win98 boxes to various flavours of X/K/Ubuntu and everything is wonderful12:59
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pagseishinbyou, nice :)12:59
_4strOahmadrovick: THE software for internet cafe, which one ?01:00
ahmadrovicki want to build an internet cafe ussing kubuntu01:00
ahmadrovickis there any apilcation for manageing the internet cafe for my network01:01
_4strOahmadrovick: did you googlize a little ?01:01
Fahuadaiseishinbyou: great to hear!01:01
seishinbyouodd place; they are afraid of any Windows after 98, but were all gung-ho for Linux when they saw it was all pretty-like and actually did stuff01:01
ahmadrovickor can i instal software for windows in my linux01:01
seishinbyouthere is wine and vmware01:02
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franky_4strO i used apt-get update and Konsole says"'http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/xapps/xwinwrap/http://webcvs.freedeskt         op.org/xapps/xwinwrap/deb' it's not recognized at line 46 in souce list          /etc/apt/sources.list01:02
seishinbyouor kqemu01:02
markiepag:  thanks01:02
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mintyhow do i mount  my windows partition01:02
Fahuadaifranky: try removing that line01:02
seishinbyouIs it NTFS?01:02
_4strOfranky: then look in your sourcelists at line 45, 46 :p01:02
mintyyas i believe so01:03
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ahmadrovickyes iam searcing with google, but i cant find one01:03
_4strOfranky: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list01:03
seishinbyouyou might need to get the ntfstools first01:03
Fahuadaiyou have a terminal open at sudo nano /etd/apt/sources.list ?01:03
seishinbyouI'm a bit fuzzy on that; it is googleable, though01:03
markiewhich program can i better use for using 3d desktop ?01:03
Fahuadaiuse the arrow keys to move down to line 45/46  and delete the repository http://webcvs.....01:04
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frankythank you very much, i've solved the problem by removing the line01:05
seishinbyouHas anyone had a Thinkpad run Kubuntu for more than an hour and a half on battery?  It seems a bit short01:05
stoneythegoombaminty -- there is a how to at tldp.org that covers samba and mounting windows partitions01:05
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mcscrufflo all01:06
mcscruff?? kde 401:06
mcscruffanyone know what the kde 4 alpha packages are called?01:07
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pagmcscruff, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php <- here are the instructions01:08
mcscruffty! :)01:08
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ehambergAre the packages uploaded? I get this: "Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1/./Packages.gz  404 Not Found" when updating.01:09
Fahuadaifranky: gald to help.01:10
mcscruffehamberg, same problem here01:10
pagehamberg, iirc you should replace ./ with feisty main01:11
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mcscruffW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508801:11
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pagmcscruff, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.5.php here are the instructions on how to add the key :)01:12
ehambergpag: Thanks! :)01:13
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stoneythegoombalooking for kernel options to pass at install to get around kernel panick error01:14
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mcscruffis kde 4 nice01:15
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Skrot-kde 4 is alpha, aka not usale and no, not nice01:16
pagmcscruff, it's just first alpha.. I'm not even sure if it works ;)01:16
logixoulmcscruff: wait until oct 2301:16
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mcscrufflogixoul, naa, i wanna test the widgets bit01:18
logixoulok then; the Oxygen widgetstyle is already pretty mature01:18
logixoulnot sure if it's built by default tho01:19
logixoulthere's videos of it btw.01:19
mcscruffisnt it ment to support osx widgets too?01:19
logixoulyou mean widgets as in superkaramba widgets.01:19
logixoulno, the rumors of Dashboard compatibility have been highly exagerrated.01:20
mcscruffi want to test eye candy for when windows lover use my lappy01:20
mcscrufffor my personal use i use xfce01:20
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logixoulcurrently KDE 3 Superkaramba widgets mostly work in the KDE4 version, too. Also, you can now write them in Ruby, too. That's all for now.01:21
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mcscruffi do have 1 thing i dont like about kde tho01:21
mcscruffthe amount of crap apps that come with the defualt install01:22
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s330d3ris it possible to mount a ntfs usb drive with linux?  I have looked in google, and I can figure out how to edit fstab and/or manually do it, but when I try to do it, there is nothing in the folder.01:25
mcscruffi thought it did it auto01:25
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s330d3rhmmm... I am using 7.04 and it trys the auto, but nothing comes up on my desktop.01:26
mcscruffbrb, need to try kde01:26
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crazy_busI've got a computer hooked up to a wireless router.  Is there anyway I can use this to transfer files to another computer which has a wireless card?01:29
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seishinbyourun sshd and use sftp/scp to transfer your files01:30
seishinbyouI have a winxp box at home and I use winscp to send files to my xubuntu laptop over wireless as long as the files aren't too large01:30
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ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:31
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rkviraniooh Im still logged in :D01:36
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rkviraniAnyone know of a gui way to partition and format a disk?01:36
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fdovingrkvirani: gparted is nice.01:37
rkviranifdoving: cool I will check it out01:37
ubunturosrkvirani: or QParted that comes with Kubuntu 6.0601:37
rkviraniQparted eh01:37
rkviraniwhere is it in the menu :D01:37
rkvirani(btw the KDE menus are friggin bloated)01:37
fdovingrkvirani, ubunturos: i'd recommend gparted, qparted isn't as up2date as gparted.01:37
rkviranigparted it is01:38
rkvirani.. show me how to do the gui way :D01:38
ubunturosfdoving: oh, ok01:38
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ubunturosrkvirani: you should find how-to's on that on the internet,01:38
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fdovingrkvirani: open Adept Manager, then search for and install 'gparted'01:38
ubunturosrkvirani: or http://www.howtoforge.com01:38
ubunturosshould help01:38
fdovingrkvirani: after doing that you'll find it in the menus.01:38
s330d3ranyone have any idea why my usb drive (ntfs) is not being assigned a folder in 7.04?01:39
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ubuntuross330d3r: may be it isn't mounted with appropriate params01:39
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rkviraniIm looking for adept01:39
rkviranis330d3r: check dmesg01:39
s330d3rit sees it and asks what I want to do, but it never opens in a window.01:39
ubuntuross330d3r:  :-?01:39
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fdovings330d3r: did you do antyhing apart from plugging it in?01:40
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rkviranilol I dont have adept :D01:40
fdovingrkvirani: what distro are you on?01:41
rkviraniubuntu D01:41
s330d3rfdoving: nope01:41
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rkviraniso does the ubuntu team focus more on ubuntu or kubuntu01:42
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rkviraniI read something about shuttleworth running kubuntu all the time01:43
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fdovings330d3r: you need to run the ntfsconfig utility to make an fstab entry for it. pmount doesn't support ntfs-3g directly.01:43
s330d3rdmesg tells me that it is sdb and is generic sg2 type 0 (120034 MB)01:43
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fdovings330d3r: you're on 7.04 right?01:43
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fdovings330d3r: kmenu -> run command 'kdesu ntfs-config'01:44
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fdovings330d3r: if it doesn't start, you probably don't have ntfs-config installed, then open adept and install it. packagename is 'ntfs-config'01:44
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rkviraniewww ntfs01:44
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jujimufuare the beryl debs in one of the official/standard sources.list repos, or do I have to add new ones?01:47
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crazy_busis there anyway to use remote places in kde or another program to automaticaly transfer files via the wireless router?01:48
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ubunturoscrazy_bus: if you are connected, use scp01:49
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:49
flaccidsmb:// in konq?01:49
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ubunturosflaccid: yes, it can be01:50
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s330d3rfdoving... that didn't seem to do anything01:50
flaccidi was talking to crazy_bus01:50
fdovings330d3r: did you answer a bunch of questions?01:50
fdovings330d3r: do you have ntfs-config package installed?01:50
crazy_bussmb:// just takes me to '/'01:51
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flaccidtry smb:/01:51
s330d3rfdoving:  I installed ntfs-config and then ran it, it popped up a window asking if I wanted to enable write support on external drives and I checkt that off...01:51
fdovings330d3r: so you don't want to write?01:51
crazy_busUnable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall.01:51
flaccidyou need to configure smb01:51
s330d3rfdoving: it was deselected, I selected it, yes I want to write01:52
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fdovings330d3r: try to run it again. it should ask more questions.01:52
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crazy_bushow do I configure smb?01:52
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:53
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crazy_busI should mention that I'01:53
crazy_busI'm trying to share between two kubuntu's.  And not windows01:53
bladycan anybody help me? how to extend man database? I mean, that I don't have for example definition of man bind etc.01:53
flaccidput them on the same workgroup01:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:54
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bind9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:54
s330d3rfdoving: this is what the about page says on ntfs-config:  Enable/disable NTFS write support with one click.01:54
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s330d3rfdoving: and that is all it is asking me01:54
flaccidblady: what do you want to do01:54
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fdovings330d3r: it should be more, hang on, i'll try to figure it out.01:54
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flaccidblady: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto01:55
bladyflaccid: i want my man, to show bind documentation after i type in terminal "man bind"01:56
jink_anybody know how to install opera01:56
flaccidits man named01:56
fdoving!opera | jink_01:56
ubotujink_: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser01:56
flaccidjink_: don't shout01:56
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.01:56
jink_but im trying to do dat for many hours now and its not happening01:57
LjLjink_: well, explain the problem01:57
jink_i have downloaded the file from opera site01:57
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LjLjink_: which filename is that?01:58
jink_and its :  opera-9.20-20070409.6-shared-qt.i386-en.tar.gz01:58
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jink_so i dont know how to install this01:58
flaccidjink_: follow the link from ubotu01:58
LjLjink_, you got the wrong file.01:58
flaccidjink_: use the package instead01:58
LjLget the Ubuntu package.01:58
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flaccidfollow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser01:58
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jink_flaccid: should i donwload from there and then wats the method to install it01:59
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LjL Locate the .deb package and double click on it to start the Gdebi .deb installer. 01:59
LjLbut since we don't have gdebi in Kubuntu (unless you've got GNOME too), use dpkg01:59
LjL sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  from the command line02:00
fdovingor, rightclick -> kubuntu menu -> install.02:00
LjLi suppose02:00
flaccidjink_: read the link02:00
bladyflaccid: what package are related with man? "bind" was just the example, I won't have permament connection to net, so I need full man on hdd02:00
flaccidblady: a full man for what?02:00
jink_willl try out02:01
LjLblady: manpages usually get installed by the relevant package.02:01
jink_as soon as the download finishes02:01
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LjLthe one big exception is manpages-dev02:01
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jink_hey buddy one more problem02:01
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GrahamMorning, does anybody know how to change the aspect ratio in Kaffine?02:02
jink_i have downloaded a theme frm look-kde and i donw have any idea how to install it i tried from kcontrol but not happening02:02
bladyflaccid: generaly man, my problem is that: i wrote in terminal "man bind" "man opendir" and man response was that it doesn't know these function02:02
flaccidblady: thats because those man pages dont exist02:03
bladyflaccid: i need it for support in writing in C02:03
LjLblady, i just told you, manpages-dev02:03
jink_graham: start kaffeine02:03
LjLflaccid: (they do)02:03
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Grahamjink_: You're saying it should happen automaticly?02:03
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jink_and over ther select player in video select aspect ratio02:04
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flaccidwell not man bind anyway02:04
LjLflaccid: yes it exists02:04
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flaccidwhat package02:04
LjLit doesn't if you don't have manpages-dev installed (third time)02:04
logixoulhow do I enable vesa in grub?02:04
jink_else when ur video is playing on press f5 f6 f7 f802:04
flaccidit doesnt come up for me02:05
LjL!info manpages-dev02:05
ubotumanpages-dev: Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development. In component main, is optional. Version 2.39-1 (feisty), package size 1185 kB, installed size 2916 kB02:05
jink_and see the chang02:05
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LjLflaccid: then you don't have manpages-dev installed (4th)02:05
flaccidi did02:05
flaccidshut the fuck up02:05
Grahamjink_: I see what you did there, thanks.02:05
flaccid1st time..02:05
bladyflaccid: when u type "man bind" u get right response, i need acces to such man off-line, i guess LjL solved my problem :) thx02:05
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flaccidwhat the fuck02:05
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Grahamjink_: If it's on auto... shouldn't it automaticly change to the right one?02:05
GrahamBecause it wasn't being 16:9, and I recorded my video in 16:902:06
jink_it will select the default aspect ratio02:06
Fahuadaijink_ in kcontol under the appearance, go to theme manager and import your theme02:06
jink_fahualdai i tried but its not importing02:06
jink_its a theme called aqua lookalike mac os x02:07
LjLblady: also02:07
Grahamjink_: Either than or JVC fucked me in the ass... Iuno02:07
jink_fahuadai: should i tell in wat format is it02:07
Fahuadaiwhat's the file type of the theme? .kthc ?02:07
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erz-Is kwin baghira unstabe on mutiverse ?02:08
jink_hey graham: u can also try out vlc02:08
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jink_vlc player02:08
jink_download it from add/remove02:08
LjLblady: if you know which man section the page you want is in (for instance, "bind" is in section 2 because it's a unix call), you can know the path: /usr/share/man/man2/bind.2.gz   in this case02:08
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs02:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about baghira - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:08
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:08
jink_graham u ther?02:08
LjLblady: if you know the path, you can use apt-file to search for it. "apt-file search bind.2.gz" should suffice02:08
LjL!apt-file > blady    (blady, see the private message from Ubotu)02:09
Grahamjink_: Yes.02:09
GrahamGimme a moment02:09
jink_check out vlc its the ultimate plater02:09
LjLblady: that goes for anything that you don't know the package for02:09
logixoulHow do I enable VESA in GRUB?02:09
s330d3rfdoving: any luck?02:09
jink_guys stellerium aint working properly02:10
Grahamjink_: What's so good about it?02:10
fdovings330d3r: it should auto-detect devices. was your disk connected when you ran this?02:11
nimbleplays most stuff without installing codecs02:11
Grahamnimble: You mean it comes with codecs?02:11
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jink_well check out for urself u have a wide varity of aspect ratio02:11
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GrahamBecause typing sudo apt-get install codec_package is such a hassle!02:11
GrahamI'll pass, I'm rather fond of Kaffeine02:12
jink_anybody knws why stelleruim aint workin at my end02:12
bladyLjL: i've already downloaded and installed manpages-dev, that was wat i meant :D02:12
LjLblady: sure, was just telling you how you could have found out the right package yourself02:13
LjLblady: might come useful in the future02:13
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bladythx for help, i am about to love kubuntu and this place :D02:13
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s330d3rfdoving: yes it was02:16
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fdovings330d3r: then i don't know, i remember i had some problems making it appear myself, you could try to ask in #ubuntu02:17
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:18
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PhinnForti'm having some trouble with getting the latest kde4 packages02:42
PhinnForti've added "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1/ ./" to my sources list02:43
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PhinnFortbut i get the following:02:43
PhinnFortErr http://kubuntu.org ./ Packages02:43
PhinnFort  404 Not Found02:43
PhinnFortwhen apt-get updating02:43
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pagPhinnFort, replace ./ with feisty main02:44
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PhinnFortworked like a charm;)'02:45
PhinnFortsomeone should update this: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php02:45
BluesKajis kde4 kubuntu-version dependent ?02:45
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PhinnFortBluesKaj: i think it's only available for feisty02:46
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BluesKajmakes an unstable OS even moreso :)02:46
mieneHello @ all, can somebody please help me with my corrupted OSS-sound?02:46
PhinnFortmiene: why do you use OSS?02:47
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PhinnFortif there are alsa-drivers available for your card, you should use alsa instead02:47
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mieneI use OSS for some wine-programs because ALSA wasnt working (wine problem). A wine-geek found out, that my lack of sound in wine using OSS instead doesnt work because my OSS-server actually doesnt... i tried amarok using OSS, no sound02:48
mintyCould not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unaable)02:49
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mintyE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another ess using it?02:49
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mintywot does that mean02:49
PhinnFortminty: try closing all other package programs02:49
mintygot ya02:49
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PhinnFortmiene: i think you maybe need to load an OSS emulation module02:49
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mienehow do i do that PhinnFort?02:50
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:50
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PhinnFortmiene: i'm not really sure, but try loading "sudo modprobe snd-pcm-oss"02:50
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PhinnFortand "sudo modprobe snd-mixer-oss"02:51
mieneokay i try now02:51
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PhinnFortand "sudo modprobe snd-seq-oss"02:51
BluesKajdon't understand why ppl use wine ..whynot just keep the windows partitrion ?02:51
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PhinnFortBluesKaj: because then you need a windows cd-key?02:51
PhinnFortBluesKaj: I use wine to play Fallout 202:51
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mienePhinnFort: - i did ur commands - though still no sound02:52
BluesKajthere's lotsa those keys available PhinnFort02:52
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PhinnFortBluesKaj: and I really don't care to use several gigabytes and time just to play it02:52
Dr_willisheh :) vmware+windows95  there we go!02:52
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BluesKajI guess ppl need their games ..02:52
PhinnFortBluesKaj: works perfectly in wine, so no reason to do more work02:52
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PhinnFort!find oss02:53
ubotuFound: libsdl1.2debian-oss, alsa-oss, alsaplayer-oss, amiga-fdisk-cross, apt-cross (and 48 others)02:53
PhinnFort!info alsa-oss02:53
ubotualsa-oss: ALSA wrapper for OSS applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12-1 (feisty), package size 50 kB, installed size 216 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)02:53
PhinnFortmiene: did you catch that?02:53
PhinnFortmiene: try sudo aptitude install alsa-oss02:53
mieneshould i install those packages all?02:53
PhinnFortonly alsa-oss02:54
mienei think i already have thaat... hang on..02:54
mieneyes already installed02:54
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PhinnFortand probably try "sudo rmmod snd-seq-oss" "sudo rmmod snd-mixer-oss" and "sudo rmmod snd-pcm-oss"02:54
PhinnFortmiene: can you paste the output of "modprobe -l | grep oss" in #flood02:55
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mieneOh first this:02:55
mienesudo rmmod snd-mixer-oss02:55
mieneERROR: Module snd_mixer_oss is in use by snd_pcm_oss02:55
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PhinnFortoh, you must take them in the right order02:56
PhinnFortdo "sudo rmmod snd-pcm-oss" first02:56
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mienethan i get this: ERROR: Module snd_pcm_oss does not exist in /proc/modules02:57
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miene..ok i must have removed it earlyer with that command.. clear02:57
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PhinnFortmiene: just ignore it then02:57
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PhinnFortmiene: but can you paste that stuff into #flood02:57
PhinnFort!hi | vendetta02:58
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ubotuvendetta: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:58
PhinnFort!hi | denechtew02:58
ubotudenechtew: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:58
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vendettaI've got a problem with the installation of Kubuntu 7.0402:58
PhinnFortvendetta: what kind of problem?02:58
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denechtewa boot problem02:58
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mieneok PhinnFort, u wanted the output from modprobe -l | grep oss right? - buts a lot can i post it here?02:59
PhinnFortmiene: go to the #flood channel and post it there02:59
BluesKaj!pastebin | miene02:59
ubotumiene: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:59
Vincent_kwhy cant I print pdf files from acroread02:59
vendettaI made a new partion with partion magic, from 10 Gb, but when I want to install Kubuntu I don't know how to select that partition to install Kubuntu on02:59
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denechtewI should think place the fileso n the disc03:00
denechtewand set in bios to boot fromthat disc03:00
_4strOvendetta: just remove you partition an let kubuntu do this for you03:00
esbenVincent_k: It is easier from kpdf, by it should work from acroread  too. Use "kprinter" as the printer, that usually does the trick03:00
Vincent_kI.ll try03:01
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mieneI have posted it PhinnFort03:02
BluesKajvendetta, click on the partiton and choose edit , it has to be formatted to ext2 or ext303:02
PhinnFortmiene: thank you03:02
Vincent_kwell actually its aspx files that gives me headake03:02
vendettaok, and is that the only thing I have to do?03:02
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BluesKajpartiton magic should be banned , it's unstable and dangerous03:02
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  and overpriced03:03
Vincent_kI'm trying to print shipment documents from dhl's site03:03
Dr_willisthen again - that just described most pc's and  things that exisyt in the world03:03
BluesKajright Dr_willis03:03
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BluesKajvendetta, are you using the kubuntu cd ?03:03
vendettaI downloaded the image and burned it on a cd03:04
PhinnFortmiene: try to run the wine command prefixed with "aoss"03:04
PhinnFortmiene: like "aoss wine filename.exe"03:04
mieneok i do now PhinnFort, thx03:04
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BluesKajok vendetta, then use the 'manual partition' option03:04
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KrAmMeRhow do i get my window manager to take focus when I click on any part of a certain window, and not the top toolbar?03:05
vendettamaybe It's handy to know I wanne dual boot with xp03:05
KrAmMeRor just the top toolbar03:05
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mienestill no sound PhinnFort03:05
PhinnFortKrAmMeR: try alt+f2, "kcontrol" hit enter and search for "window behaviour"03:05
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PhinnFortmiene: have you set wine to use oss?03:06
PhinnFortmiene: try "aoss wineconfig"03:06
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BluesKajthat's what i figured vendetta , using the manual option gives you a way to save your windows partition03:06
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mieneoh i see a change in my winecfg, PhinnFort, after running that command... i check OSS again and try that command again..03:06
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PhinnFortKrAmMeR: if what you're looking for isn't there, try in #kde03:07
KrAmMeRPhinnFort: ok thanks03:07
mienePhinnFort: still nothing :-/03:08
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PhinnFortKrAmMeR: most (if not all) kde devs hang out there03:08
PhinnFortmiene: i suspect there's a problem with your wine03:08
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mieneomg lol03:08
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mieneyes maybe i should reinstall or something03:09
mienethx a lot PhinnFort for ur help :-)03:09
PhinnFortmiene: no need to, just try to rename the ".wine" folder in your home03:09
PhinnFortmiene: then try to run it again03:09
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mieneok i'll try that03:09
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PhinnFortcall it just "wine" without the dot, for example03:10
erz-i try to customize my deskbar ... and i dont find what i'm looking for ... how can i customize it ?03:11
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PhinnForterz-: right click on it and configure03:11
erz-i'm using beryl =x03:12
PhinnForterz-: and...?03:12
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erz-PhinnFort: it doestn matter so :D03:13
BullinesHi!  I just installed Kubuntu (Feisty) and it looks great.  I was wondering how I could increase my display resolution beyond 1024x768.03:13
mienePhinnFort: Games runs, but still no sound :-(03:14
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:14
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seishinbyougood evening03:14
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PhinnFortBullines: if you feel daring, you could just move the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and then it should configure itself for optimal resolution03:14
vendettacan somebody help me with my problem plz?03:15
manicmani just startet kubuntu from live cd and miss the icon "install kubuntu" on my desktop. is there any way to install kubuntu another way?03:15
dac_uboto,how do I change my nick?03:15
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stdindac_: /nick NewNick03:15
erz-PhinnFort: works fine, dunno why i dont find it before ... i was looking about themes, kwin, emerald, beryl, vrunner, eveything is getting me crazy ... =))))03:15
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PhinnForterz-: :P03:15
dac_ok ty03:15
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BullinesI have an nVIDIA card and 'sudo nvidia-settings' seems to have done the trick.  Thanks :)03:16
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erz-PhinnFort: How can i be sure hardware accel is on with my ati card ( it seems glexgears is not a benchmark :pppp )03:17
vendetta I made a new partion with partion magic, from 10 Gb, but when I want to install Kubuntu I don't know how to select that partition to install Kubuntu on03:17
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vendettaI always gave an error03:17
mienePhinnFort: when my oss is completely not working, then i think it wont in  wine too. How can i  get it to work in general?03:17
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PhinnForterz-: glxinfo03:21
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PhinnFortmiene: i would avoid oss at all cost, but that's just me03:21
PhinnFortmiene: you shouldn't have to use it03:21
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mieneyes ur surly right. i was just wondering why it suddently didnt work anymore. - Thx for ur help, I'll wait for the next wine release for the ALSA fix i guess :-)03:22
erz-direct rendering: Yes sounds good : D03:22
PhinnForterz-: ;)03:22
PhinnForterz-: what kind of video card do you have?03:22
PhinnFortmiene: what game is it that you're having trouble with?03:22
mieneGuild wars03:22
erz-R350 M10 Mobility03:22
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PhinnForterz-: are you using the proprietary ATi driver or the one that comes with kubuntu?03:23
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erz-i thinks its free which comes with kubuntu03:24
PhinnForterz-: then you're good;)03:24
lontrawhy is the kubuntu logo on everything?  my kmenu sidebar, my systems icon, konqueoror's background, amarok ... it's a bit of an overkill03:24
PhinnFortlontra: it's a clever marketing trick03:25
lontraPhinnFort: you don't find it annoying?03:25
seishinbyouFortunately it can all be changed03:25
PhinnFortlontra: no03:25
lontraseishinbyou: yes fortunately03:25
PhinnFortlontra: but I don't have it all over, since my /home is from a gentoo install, with some different than standard-kubuntu settings03:25
PhinnFortmiene: what happens if you try to use alsa?03:26
lontraubuntu isn't like this is it?03:26
seishinbyouUbuntu is brown03:26
seishinbyouall brown03:26
seishinbyouBut not poo brown like the Zune03:26
lontrai mean with the branding everywhere03:26
PhinnFortlontra: well, have you tried Windows recently?03:26
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PhinnForti dare you to count the times you see "microsoft" during a normal day03:26
lontraPhinnFort: i don't want to run windows ... just kde :)03:26
seishinbyouIt's really not so bad.  Just check out kde-look.org and *poof*03:27
seishinbyouless plasticy-look03:27
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erz-whats baghira exactly ? :D03:27
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lontraseishinbyou: i can get read the sidebar too right?03:27
PhinnForterz-: a buggy widget theme03:27
PhinnForterz-: mac os x look-a-like03:27
lontras read/rid03:28
erz-thats why apt-get tell me i ask for impossible thing when tried to install it03:28
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seishinbyousidebar in...?03:28
lontrai like domino ... but i can't ever make it look nices03:28
lontraseishinbyou: in the kmenu03:28
erz-apt-get is a ghost in each hardware linux, it gonna take control =)))))03:28
seishinbyouapt-get moo03:28
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seishinbyouAt least it is better than rpms03:29
seishinbyouFortunately, alien can convert them to .deb03:29
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lontrarpms are not as bad as they use to be ... the new mandriva is pretty snappy and when i ran opensuse i never had dependency hell like the old days of fedora03:29
erz-trying to give a well look to my amarok trough kde theme ... its hard ^ ^03:29
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vendettado I really need a swap disk?03:30
lontravendetta: yup03:30
mienePhinnFort: then wine/guildwars freezes and i get a whole lot of fixme's. - but if i run guildwars with the -dsound switch it works.. but no sound and a lot of fixme's. Thats supposed to be a wine problem.03:31
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PhinnFortmiene: doesn't sound too good...03:31
Fahuadaivendetta: aim for 2 times your RAM for swap03:31
BullinesHi!  I'm trying to install VMware Server based on this guide:03:31
vendettado I need to make a new partition for that or can I just use my HD where windows is on for that?03:31
mienePhinnFort: but if i click the ALSA tab in winecfg i get the following errors... look in the flood-room pls03:31
seishinbyouBullines: and?03:32
BullinesBut when I run 'sudo vmware-install.pl', I get a "command not found" error.03:32
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seishinbyousudo ./vmware-install.pl03:32
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seishinbyouassuming you are in the right directory03:32
Bullinesseishinbyou:  That's the ticket.  Thanks :)03:33
PhinnFortmiene: sorry i can't help you with this:(03:33
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mienePhinnFort: nah its ok! Thank u very much for ur help till here ;-)03:33
mieneIll find a way03:33
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vendettahow big is Kubuntu?03:35
lontrabigger than a bread basket03:35
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vendettaI mean the data,03:35
lontravendetta: ~2 GB03:35
lontramaybe a little mroe03:35
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vendettasorry can't explain very good, I'm not english03:36
erz-looking about some diskspace & a briht theme for me pink amarok =)03:36
lontravendetta: no you had a good question ... but i was being a smart ass :)03:36
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vendettaand how big does my swap disk has to be?03:36
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ubotu #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 03:36
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lontravendetta: how much RAM do you have?03:36
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vendetta1 gig03:36
lontravendetta: between 1.5-2 GB would be my recommendation03:37
vendettaok, thanks ^^03:37
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erz-thats why my mem is full 768 MB of Ram : /03:37
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ubunturosHarleyQuine: hello!03:39
HarleyQuineI was wondering whether someone could help me out with a disk mounting problem03:39
ubunturosHarleyQuine: post your problem, someone should03:40
HarleyQuineok well since I've installed kubuntu I haven't been able to access my fat32 partition. This morning I resized and made another fat32 partition to store my files in, but neither of them can be mounted03:41
HarleyQuinefirst error was mount: can't find /mnt/blah in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab but after adding them there it's still not working, coming up with some permission errors03:41
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erz-show you fstab03:42
BluesKajvendetta, if you are trying to savew as much diskspace as possible for data , a swap file of 1gig is plenty03:42
ubunturosHarleyQuine: paste fstab in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:42
trymi have a mdadm array with "State : active, degraded, Not Started" - i cant mount it, and when I try to start it it says input/output error. One drive is missing from it, but appears in /proc/partitions. Can anyone assist me in trying to mount the array?03:42
BluesKajHarleyQuine, why fat32 ?03:43
HarleyQuineok it's sent there03:43
HarleyQuinecos I know that ntfs doesn't work03:43
HarleyQuineand also cos I wanted a file system that'll work with both linux and windows to store my files03:44
ubunturosHarleyQuine: it does, but there's no default rw-access, only read only access03:44
BluesKajwhynot ntfs, then you can acccess /eread/write with ntfs-3g and ntfs-config03:44
ubunturosHarleyQuine: ntfs-3g will allow you to write and read03:44
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ubunturosHarleyQuine: there must be a link to your paste, post that as well03:45
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flakehow do I install a new icon theme, I tried browsing to the folder, now what..03:45
spawn57 flake, use kcontrol to install and load the new icon themee03:45
spawn57HarleyQuine: ntfs-3g works fine, it's slow for big files though.03:46
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HarleyQuineI've never heard of that file system before, I'll have to change the windows partition too yes?03:47
flakeI have a control center, not a kcontrol03:47
ubunturosflake: you can type kcontrol in Run Dialog box, for Control Center03:47
spawn57HarleyQuine:  naw it's a driver that lets you read and write to ntfs partitions03:47
flakeand I select theme manager and browse to the folder I extracted the icon theme into03:48
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spawn57flake: system settings -> appearance -> icons03:48
HarleyQuineso fat32 won't work at all then?03:48
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ubunturosHarleyQuine: fat32 should work without any tweaks03:48
spawn57HarleyQuine: it will, you missed out the permissions mapping03:48
spawn57HarleyQuine: you shoudl be able to read and write as root atm, but you need to mount fat32 with the umask, uid and gid options to map it to the user03:49
flakedoes the icon file need to be non-extracted?  or what do I point to in the folder, what file?03:49
flakein 32x32 folder there's an application folder with a bunch of .png's in it03:49
spawn57flake: did you downlaod the tar ball ( .tar.gz ) or do you just have one icon?03:50
HarleyQuineI wish I knew what that meant, but I haven't a clue ;) hate to be a noob but could you explain more?03:50
spawn57HarleyQuine: sure, do you know what file permissions/acls are?03:50
flakedownloaded the tar ball03:50
spawn57flake: what icon theme may I ask?03:51
HarleyQuinefile permissions yes, acls nope03:51
flakecrystal diamond 2.603:51
vendettacan I make new partitions with the Kubuntu install?03:51
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spawn57flake: gimme a sec03:52
spawn57HarleyQuine: well, fat32 has no file permissions, so when you moutn the file system on linux, you specify what file permissions all the directorys and files will have by default03:52
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erz-ahem, is it possible to increase size of kubuntu partition ?03:53
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HarleyQuineok am with you so far, and where do I do that?03:53
flakeI got it, had to point to the tar ball03:53
spawn57in your fstab, you see the part where you have "defaults, user"03:54
spawn57HarleyQuine: you're going to need to add a few more options in there03:54
spawn57HarleyQuine: main one is umask, gid and uid03:55
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HarleyQuineok am googling config instructions03:56
BluesKajerz, yes , if you use GParted Live CD partition editor03:56
spawn57HarleyQuine: uid is your user id, look up you're username in /etc/passwd to get your uid numbe that way all the files in the fat32 filesystem will be owned by you03:56
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spawn57HarleyQuine: ah just use this, umask=007, gid = 100, uid=100003:57
erz-BluesKaj: my cd drive is dead : /03:57
spawn57i think your id should be 1000 by default, users is 100, ...umask=007 will set all files readable and writeable to you and all the users in the group users03:58
BluesKajbummer erz03:58
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BluesKajerz, you can try qtparted but i"ve never tried it03:59
HarleyQuineok, am still with ya.. where's the right mount point for partitions? it says that my /media/hd1 doesn't exist so is there a right place for it?03:59
spawn57are you using edgy?04:00
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erz-BluesKaj: thx i will take a look =)04:01
BluesKajerz, there migt be a way to do it with a USB thumbdrive04:01
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spawn57HarleyQuine: just create folder using mkdir /media/hd1  ..it should be named hda1 since that's what the device node is named (/dev/hda1)04:02
erz-why not i need to format a fat32 part in ext3 or the software give diskspace by itself :pppp04:02
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HarleyQuineokey dokey04:03
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HarleyQuinehehehe also had the wrong filesystem type.. what a trip.. now it's working, thanks very much :)04:06
spawn57np man04:06
spawn57what fs type is it?04:06
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ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:08
flakeif/when a new kde comes out and I update, will it overwrite my current themes?  Likewise if I upgraded from edgy to fiesty, would that kill my themes?04:08
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flakebtw i'm already fiesty, just curious04:08
flakeand if ubuntu is a distro, what are edgy / fiesty called?04:08
flakekde / gnome / etc I call gui's04:09
seishinbyoudifferent releases of the distro04:09
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ubunturosflake: an update to the next version, shouldn't ideally kill your themes, but a fresh install would04:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:10
_4strOflake: lsb_release -a04:10
flakeno lsb modules are available,  ubuntu 7.04  feisty04:10
_4strOflake: actually "feisty" or "edgy" are codenames04:10
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_4strO7.04 is the Release04:11
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_4strOkde and gnome are some desktop environement04:12
cunyand not the lightest...04:13
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seishinbyouxfce is nice now04:15
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vendettaI'm now making another partition for my swap files04:18
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HarleyQuineif I don't want to use konqueror as my windows manager what other options do I have?04:18
nimblekonqueror isnt a window manager04:18
vendettaI now have 10Gb for Kubuntu and 1Gb swap disk04:18
HarleyQuineok as a what-dya-macall-it then ;)04:18
nimbledo you mean file browser?04:18
vendettaand how do I need to set them?04:18
_buzvendetta: 10G seems about right04:19
HarleyQuineyah that'd be the one04:19
BluesKajgood vendetta04:19
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nimblewell theres gnomes, nautilus or something04:19
BluesKajvendetta, how large is your windows partition ?04:19
_buzwhat provides the volume onscreen display?04:20
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nimbleadept manager brings up claw4 as well04:20
nimbleand mentions xffm and rox04:20
_4strOor thunar04:20
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_4strObut konqueror just fine04:21
vendettaI have 2 hard disks, C and D. I took 10Gb from the D for a new partition for Kubuntu. NOw I also took 1Gb from the D for my swap04:21
vendettaThe total of C and D is 100Gb04:21
_4strOwith konqueror you can do manythings04:21
HarleyQuinetrue, but I like simple04:21
HarleyQuinesimple minds like simple things ;P04:21
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_4strOHarleyQuine: you can configure it to look "simple"04:22
cunyI agree XFCE fits well most needs04:22
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BluesKajvendetta, is 10g the max for kubuntu or is that going to be your /home partition?04:23
_4strOand isnt it easyer to have one program to, browse internet, filesystem, ftp, ..., display galleries photo, text files, music, video, ... than have on programme for each action ?04:23
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_4strOoups sorry for my bad english (many mistakes above)04:24
HarleyQuinepossibly.. but it scares me04:24
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vendettawhat do you mean with /home partition?04:30
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vendettaI'm going to try to install it again04:31
nimblethe partition /home points to?04:31
_4strOvendetta: why just use de auto partition ?04:32
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BluesKaj_4strO, he wants to preserve his windows partition04:33
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_4strOBluesKaj: nevermind, he can use only the free space ;)04:33
BluesKajhe's gonna find out that 10G isn't enuff04:34
BluesKajin a week or 2 :)04:34
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_4strOBluesKaj: think the best way is to prepare everything on windows for a kubuntu installation04:34
_4strOi mean create and move data to partitions and create some free space for kubuntu installation04:35
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nimblemy current install is only taking 6.3gb and 2gb swap04:38
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asa-tyr-forseteHey there :)04:39
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Mozz27Hi All04:40
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asa-tyr-forseteI'm sort of new to Linux... I've just installed Kubuntu Feisty Fawn and everything works great :) The only thing I'm wondering is, how to watch tv with my tv card... It is installed (I see /dev/video0) but I don't know how to watch it, and with wich software am I supposed to do it ?04:41
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lontraanother converted opensuse -> kubuntu user :)04:43
_4strOasa-tyr-forsete: i dont know about videocard using, but some guys seems to look channels on VLC player04:44
lontraberyl works so great in kubuntu :)04:44
_4strOlontra: yes04:45
nimbleberyls too slow for me :(04:45
seishinbyoudepends on your video card, too04:45
lontrait's just as speedy here as kwin04:45
erz-is it possible to mount with ntfs-3g a network drive in fstab04:45
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nimblei pretty sure its just because of my poor graphics card and relatively high resolution04:46
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seishinbyouyep.  My old Intel 855GM would choke at anything higher than 800x60004:46
seishinbyouThe ATI in this Thinkpad is doing all right, though04:46
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lontrahe eh04:46
buzseishinbyou: what ati do you have?04:46
nimbleit was fine when i tried it on some laptop04:46
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buzmine doesnt work with AIGLX at all04:46
buzand Xgl is a pain04:47
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seishinbyouATI Mobility Radeon 750004:47
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seishinbyouOr so the specs say04:47
erz-is it possible to mount with ntfs-3g a network drive in fstab04:47
buzah that one has opensource drivers04:47
seishinbyouIt could all be a huge lie and I am actually running a Trident Oak card04:47
nimbleonly thing i found wrong with xgl was the log out options04:47
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_4strOnimble: and the keyboard settings no ?04:48
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BluesKajyes _4strO , that's whay i suggested he use GParted to resizeand format his ext2/3 partition04:48
nimbledidnt notice anything04:48
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nordlandsomeone german?04:48
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lontrahave you guys seen the kore suite on kde-look.org?  it's going to be so nice when it's completed!04:48
_4strO!de | nordland04:48
ubotunordland: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:48
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nordlandah thx04:49
_4strOyou can even try in english ;)04:49
DiegoHello ^04:49
DiegoI am with ubuntu 7.04 and i want to use kde interface, how can i change it? :)04:50
buzsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:50
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bjoern__Wie komme ich zu 5.1 Sound? ber Mixer geht es nicht....04:51
bjoern__Soundchip ist der realtek ALC65004:51
BluesKaj!de | bjoern__04:51
ubotubjoern__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:51
lontraanyone know where the oxygen icons are kept??04:51
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buzlontra: in kde's svn04:52
buzthey dont really exist for kde304:52
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lontrabuz: yeah i know but i can cherry pick a few icons from it can't i?04:52
buzsure, browse the svn repository04:53
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lontrabuz: do you know how i can pull in the icons from svn and search locally for them?04:54
ses1959_questions on updates to loaded software04:54
buznot really, ask in #kde04:54
lontrabuz: ok thanks04:55
ses1959_I am using k3b but see there is an update on their web site but feisty does show the update04:55
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BluesKajses1959_, normally k3b updates with new kde releases04:58
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korobaseI find the knetworkmanager has a bug!05:04
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korobaseI use my computer in my company and the in my home,The IP address can't automaticlly change for two diffirent place!05:05
korobaseAnd I can't get the corrent IP at home for the first boot,I must reboot it.05:06
korobaseAny one know why? Please help me.05:07
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buzdo both places have dhcp servers active?05:08
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HarleyQuineok I've looked everywhere I can think of.. how on earth do I install themes?05:12
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n8k99HarleyQuine: themes for what? from where?05:12
Fahuadaiharleyquine: kde themes?05:13
HarleyQuinethemes for the kde05:13
HarleyQuineyah.. I downloaded a tarball thingy, but can't find anywhere05:13
Fahuadaiok, first find the tarball05:13
HarleyQuine:D couldn't find kcontrol either in the menus.. just found it with run05:13
Fahuadaikcontrol is run from terminal.05:14
n8k99or alt+f205:14
Fahuadainot in menu by default. (you can add it if you want)05:14
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HarleyQuinethat'd explain it05:14
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HarleyQuinethe 'select theme file' hasn't shown the tar ball or any of the files after I'd unzipped it05:15
HarleyQuinedud theme?05:15
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Fahuadaiwhere you get it from?05:15
n8k99you don'tneed to unzip05:15
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n8k99you select the tarball as the file to install05:16
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HarleyQuineI got it from.. somewhere.. damn lol05:16
Fahuadaihehe, nvm.05:16
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/05:16
Fahuadaii was gonna check it myself05:16
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HarleyQuineit's not showing the tar file in the window05:16
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Fahuadaihmmm.... i didn't think kcontrol was restricted to .kthc files.... :S05:17
HarleyQuineseems to be, fussy little madam it is05:17
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Fahuadaimmmm... excessive sodium :)05:19
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HarleyQuinerightt.. so I guess I can't use that theme then05:19
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HarleyQuinegawd. so many file types so fussy computers05:19
Fahuadaiyou probably can, but i not know how. i use kthc themes from kde-look.org05:19
HarleyQuinewill check that out, thanks :)05:20
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HarleyQuinedomino config file.. this just keeps getting more and more complicated05:22
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buzdomino is neat05:22
buzbut not in kubuntu repositories :(05:23
draremkonqueror doesn't support flash?05:23
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buzdrarem: sure it does, you just need the plugin05:23
HarleyQuinethink I'll dream of the day when I can stop configuring and installing stuff on ubuntu05:24
HarleyQuinewhen it all just... works.. then it crashes and dies the next day, knowing my luck05:24
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nfstonqkoi s kubuntu 7.04 da e imal problem s firefox05:24
draremHarleyQuine  - my windows pc goes to waste when I think of it, unless I want to play a specific game05:25
draremthe linux pc when I'm on it am constantly doing something and learning something new about it05:25
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HarleyQuineyah, I like exploring and learning things too, I have the flu.. so am not my usual chirpy self ;)05:26
HarleyQuineat the moment I'm having a dilemma... kde or gnome.. kde or gnome...05:27
ArwenHarleyQuine, GNOME :-)05:27
HarleyQuinethey both have their good points..05:28
Arwenhehe, I like GNOME, prettier panels05:28
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buzwell, gnome is better uspported on ubuntu, aside of that, i'm not sure ;)05:28
nimbleuse a different panel image?05:28
Arwenmeh, not worth my time to tweak :-)05:29
HarleyQuineyeah I like the simple life, gnome is simple.. and elegant.. but kde has Kontact which I'm liking05:29
buzimho gnome is way too simple05:29
lontrablah ... the customizability of kde is so superior!05:29
ArwenI might try KDE4 though, it's supposed to be uber05:29
buzmore akin to dumb imho05:29
buzscreenshots look very clean05:29
lontra!start a desktop war05:29
HarleyQuineI'd just like to install a theme simply :) then I could decide05:29
nimblei like putting my menu bar at the top of the screen05:29
buzHarleyQuine: domino is a good bet05:29
nimbleand the gnome developers for some reason dislike that option :-/05:29
buzbut it's kinda painful to compile05:29
nosrednaekimI put my Taskbar on the top05:30
lontrabuz: domino is awesome ... there are kubuntu packages at kde-look.org05:30
nosrednaekimbuz: there are kubuntu packages!05:30
HarleyQuine:D! couldn't compile to save my life05:30
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nimblei have my taskbar on the side :D05:30
buznosrednaekim: i dont use unofficial packages05:30
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buzbefore that, i compile stuff myself05:30
HarleyQuinemaybe that's why everything is taking so long for me to do.. I'm just not geeky enough05:30
lontracompiling domino is easy :) ... i made a deb package myself that i sent to debian-kde05:30
nosrednaekimdoes the text go sideways nimble?05:30
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HarleyQuineor at least not geeky enough in compiling areas.. geeky enough in other ;P05:31
nosrednaekimbuz: go up to www.kubuntu.org they have OFFICIAL packages there05:31
nimblewell it goes the way it normally goes05:31
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buzapt-cache search domino doesnt yield very much of use05:31
HarleyQuine:D I just put my taskbar on the top.. feels more gnomy05:31
lontrabuz: go to kde-look.org and search for domino and kubuntu05:32
buzyeah those arent official05:32
buznot official == not signed by kubuntu devs05:32
nimbleits about as close as i can configure the taskbar to be like a dock (im not trying to get my desktop like mac os x, i just think the dock is a better design)05:32
buznimble: there are dock clones for kde05:32
nosrednaekimbuz: so...... um.. are they really dangerous? I was going to get them myself.05:32
buzprobably not05:33
dell190can anyone tell me how to change the Theme in Kubuntu please05:33
lontrabuz: i can send you my domino packages?05:33
buzbut i'm paranoid05:33
nimbleyeah i know but im lazy05:33
buzlontra: i'm running domino as we speak ;)05:33
buzbuilding it isnt terribly hard05:33
lontradell190: open up System Settings -> user preferences -> style, kwin, or whatever05:33
lontrathough i use kcontrol cause i find system settings is cumbersome05:33
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buzi'm not entirely sure why feisty doesnt ship domino, anyway ;)05:34
nimblealso when i last tried some docks they all screwed up (it was in beryl)05:34
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buzmost things are kinda screwed up in beryl in my view05:34
buzit's neat, but it's also buggy05:34
Arwenberyl is pretty solid actually.. the backends it runs on are pretty buggy05:35
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scanmanselam trk var m05:36
nosrednaekimjeroen__: hello05:36
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jeroen__yeah, finely, it works ^^05:37
HarleyQuineeverything I've come across on kde-look is a domino config thing05:37
HarleyQuineno fair05:37
jeroen__i had some problems installing kubuntu 7.0405:37
jeroen__but now it works and I'm soooooooo happy :D05:37
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:38
nosrednaekimgood job05:39
draremI'm kinda wondering if I should move my tv tuner card in my media center xp home pc  to my linux pc, do I hear any fors or againsts?05:39
buzdrarem: well the first question is if linux has drivers for it05:39
buzmine doesnt work in linux for one05:39
jeroen__Is this the channel where I was like 1 hour ago with the question for my partitions?05:39
buznot terrible bad loss05:39
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nosrednaekimdrarem: what type of card is it?05:41
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jaimsjust installed feisty and beryl packages...05:41
jaimsis there a quick way to switch beryl on?05:41
nosrednaekimjaims: ok.05:41
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nosrednaekimjaims: are you running AIGLX or XGL?05:41
jaimsxgl i reckon05:42
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jaimsfresh standard kubuntu feisty install05:42
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Faderhvalhello folks :)05:42
jaimsi mean, with ubuntu feisty (installed 2 days ago in my laptop) it was matter of couple of clicks05:42
nosrednaekimjaims: did you install XGL?05:43
draremdon't know, I would have to open it, it's a m7640n  HP  pc05:43
jaimsnosrednaekim: no05:43
Faderhvalhey guys i just installed kubuntu 7.04 and was wondering does apt no longer have a "search" command ??05:43
jaimsi thought it would be the default x manager...05:44
buzapt-cache search05:44
nosrednaekimjaims: no its not... whut what type of video caard do you have?05:44
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Faderhvalbuz: thanks05:44
jaimsmother board integrated05:44
jaimsshouldn't go into trouble i think05:45
jaimsnosrednaekim: thank you05:45
draremchit DDR2 ram techology???  wtf?  thought it was brand new at that price05:45
nimbleaiglx is easier to set up05:45
jaimsi guess that would be my starting point...05:45
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buzuhm ddr2 is current tech05:45
jaimsnimble: d u think so?05:45
lontraaiglx and xgl are both very easy to set up05:45
buzsure, aiglx is much easier05:46
draremwhere did i hear ddr305:46
jaimsas i haven't started yet i can install aiglx instead xorg05:46
nosrednaekimAiglx is far simpler easier and stable05:46
jaimsi see05:46
Arwenyep, if you can use AIGLX, do so05:46
buzonly it's not supported by ATi05:46
nosrednaekimjaims: aiglx is included in xorg..05:46
draremnm sorry05:46
buzthen again, nothing's really supported by ati05:46
nimbleblack window bug with nvidia and the faster settings too05:46
jaimsok thanks05:46
jaimsand be indulgent plz with my ignorance :-)05:47
lontrajaims: no :)05:47
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jaimsso, i'm going to try05:47
jaimsthanks again05:47
Diashtoanyone around a beryl expert?05:47
jaimsbye all05:48
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nosrednaekimDiashto: not really an EXPERT.. go over to #beryl for that05:48
nosrednaekimbut I might be able to help05:48
Faderhvalanyone running radeon gfx cards in kubuntu?05:48
Diashtowell.. having an unusual issue05:48
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Diashtoi start  up beryl.. and suddenly i have 112 desktops05:48
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nosrednaekimDiashto: ok....05:49
nosrednaekimdoes the cube owrk and verything?05:49
Diashtoin the settings manager it shows as 105:50
Diashtoor, rather that it should only have one desktop05:50
Diashtoand in the desktop pager thingy it only shows 205:50
Diashtothe cube works, all the little doodads work05:51
Diashtobut there's 112 desktops05:51
Diashtoso its more of a dodecahedron than a cube05:51
nosrednaekimDiashto: thats a known problem.05:51
Diashtoany way to fix it?05:52
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nosrednaekimDiashto: windows list viewer? its owrthless in beryl anyway05:52
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Mozz27Im new to kubuntu and linux in general so please go gentle with me. Can any advise me how to upgrade firefox in dapper from 1.5 to current release?05:54
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buzMozz27: unless oyu have a good reason to do so, dont05:55
buzit's quite painful05:55
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angasuleis blender working for 64 bits in feisty? or broken? :?05:55
Mozz27Is it safe to continue with 1.5 from a security point of view05:56
buzshould be05:56
ArwenMozz27, it's safe enough, 1.5 is supported with patchces from mozilla corp05:56
nosrednaekimMozz27:  oh yes.05:56
buzubuntu should patch bugs for what i understand05:56
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Mozz27Thanks guys, will stick with 1.5 in that case05:57
phoenixbyrdupgrade to kubuntu 7.04 and use the latest firefox05:57
Mozz27i had some trouble with boot time with 7.0405:58
Faderhvaluhm... having a small problem here the prompt to type in my password when switching to admin mode dosent show and ideas why that is?05:58
buztrouble like what05:58
buzFaderhval: on the console?05:58
buzif you have used it a few minutes ago it wont ask again05:58
Faderhvalnope from menu system settings05:58
buznot sure then05:59
Mozz27it took 5-6 mins to boot in to my desktop. just sat at the splash screen05:59
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buzMozz27: thats weird05:59
phoenixbyrdlive cd or fresh install?05:59
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phoenixbyrdlive cd took awhile for me to boot05:59
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Mozz27fresh install05:59
buzwell livecd generally arent very fast05:59
phoenixbyrdnew computer or old clunker?06:00
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arunhey, people.. the upload speeds i'm getting while using ktorrent are far greater than the download speeds (think in multiples of ten).. anything i can do to change this?06:00
Mozz27someone sugested it had somthing to do with network detection. all went over my head a little so i settled on dapper lts06:00
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Mozz27same problem occured on my laptop install06:01
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jeroen__Hello, I have a problem06:01
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alexandreme too!06:01
nosrednaekimstate your poisons..06:01
jeroen__I seems that my Konqueror keeps crashing when I open it06:01
phoenixbyrdso don't open it, problem solved06:01
alexandrehow can I update from dapper drake to feisty fawn ?06:02
Faderhvalhmm... how do i change my screen res. in konsole????06:02
jeroen__that's not really the solution :p06:02
buzmhh medibuntu is in dire need of some mirrors06:02
nosrednaekimjeroen__: start konqueror in a konsole and look for the error mesage06:02
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jeroen__how ? I'm a linux noob :p06:02
buztype konqueror in konsole06:03
alexandrehow can I update from dapper drake to feisty fawn ?06:03
nosrednaekimand hit enter.06:03
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)06:03
jeroen__it opens06:03
nosrednaekimalexandre: dapper->edgy->fiesty06:03
buzalexandre: "Skipping versions is not advised and can cause a lot of damage to your installation. If you are using an earlier version, and want to 'skip' a version, the only safe way is to backup your data and do a fresh install, or to progressively upgrade to each successive version. "06:04
nosrednaekimhas it crashed>06:04
jeroen__No, but it crashed when I want to open my external HDD06:04
scanmantrk var m turk :-D06:04
buzalexandre: if you have home on a separate partition, i suggest backing it up and reinstall06:05
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buzbackups are generally a good idea anyhow ;)06:05
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jeroen__I need to reinstall? :s06:05
LynoureIt would be really nice if the newest LTS version always had a direct upgrade path06:05
nosrednaekimjeroen__: try navigating to there in that window which is printing out messages to the konsole06:06
alexandrebut how do I know my linux version ?06:06
nosrednaekimjeroen__: NO!06:06
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buzalexandre: dapper is 6.0606:07
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alexandrehow can I know my linux version ?06:07
crazyrobotalexandre: uname -r06:07
alexandrethanks !06:07
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crazyrobotalexandre: if you want to know your kubuntu version type lsb_release -r06:09
alexandreok I've got dapper :(06:09
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buzmhh powermanager seems broken on this notebook, the core 2 duo always runs at 1ghz06:10
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Dr_willisbuz,  you may need to install some of the laptop related packages06:10
buzon my old laptop that worked without any special stuff06:11
nosrednaekimjeroen__: did you navigate to your removable HD?06:11
nosrednaekimbuz: everything works on this one... but its a AMD06:11
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buzmy old one was a pentium m, that worked perfectly06:11
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jeroen__There it worked06:12
buzmhh i'm beginning to think cpuinfo is just wrong06:13
jeroen__but it worked with Konqueror half an hour ago06:13
buzcore2 duo should not have 4000 bogomips at 1ghz06:13
buzit has that at 2ghz06:13
nosrednaekimyes it does... thats probably both cores together06:13
buzwell it lists two cores06:13
nosrednaekimeach at 4000?06:14
jeroen__how can I fix it?06:14
nosrednaekimjeroen__: i'm not sure what the problem is... are you saing that when you click on the HD icon on the desktop konquror crashes?06:14
jeroen__but for internet and stuff it works06:14
jeroen__only when I want to go to my external HDD or my other hard drive it crashes06:15
jeroen__maybe a reboot would do the job?06:15
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jeroen__this is the first time it has booted06:15
buzthen again it shows 4mb cache for both of them as well06:16
nosrednaekimjeroen__: yeah... or maybe just a re-login06:16
jeroen__Ok, I'll try that. Thanks for the help06:16
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Diashtough.  remind me how to mount my ntfs volume so i can read my pictures?06:21
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:21
lontrai've been spending all money oxygenifying my kde3.5.6 :D06:23
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lontraoops ... all morning06:23
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nosrednaekimlontra: you mentioned money... sure you aren't running vista?06:24
lontranosrednaekim: he he06:24
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aleksanteriwhere are the konqueror metabar themes located at?06:26
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Jucatoaleksanteri: planning to install some?06:27
aleksanterihmm more like to make my own... creating a small theme suite06:27
Mozz27anyone else find 7.04 boots slowly06:27
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buz(it was not mythtv)06:28
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Jucatoaleksanteri: if you modified them yourself, they'd be in ~/.kde/share/apps/metabar06:28
Jucatothe system-wide ones are in /usr/share/apps/metabar06:28
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assosalut j ai un problme06:30
nosrednaekimbye all06:31
assoj arrive pas a installer modem sagem fast06:31
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:31
Diashtothanks for  yall's help :)06:32
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Mozz27has anyone else found 7.04 boot time to be long06:33
Admiral_ChicagoMozz27: not me.06:34
LynoureMozz27: how long is too long? At one point before release there was network bug adding extra 40s or so, but it is gone now.06:34
LjL!info bootchart06:35
ubotubootchart: boot sequence auditing and chart generator. In component main, is extra. Version 0.9-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 97 kB, installed size 192 kB06:35
blackflagI can not use apt anymore. I get the failure: aptitude: error while loading shared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:35
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blackflagcan someone help?06:35
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LjLblackflag: that's quite bad. pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list (if you can)06:35
lontra!file libgcc_s.so.106:35
LjL!find libgcc_s06:35
Mozz27lynoure was it fish with an update06:35
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Mozz27fixed even06:36
ubotuPackage/file libgcc_s does not exist in feisty06:36
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LynoureMozz27: yes.06:36
blackflagthe sources list is okay, I think . the file is missing06:36
Mozz27Thanks will reinstall and update06:36
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LjLit's in libgcc1 anyway06:36
LjLblackflag: well, we need to find out why06:36
LjLblackflag: what does "apt-cache policy libgcc1" show?06:36
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lontrablackflag: if you're on i386 ... http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/libgcc1_4.1.2-0ubuntu4_i386.deb06:37
Fattihvaloshey guys i'm having a dumb problem here, i accedently used the wrong res and driver for my monitor and know i cant get x up (input not supportet) how do i change the driver/res from recovery mode???06:37
rakyrayi just installed the feisty kubuntu-desktop yesterday.  i removed the libgnome.  i turn it on today, and it shuts down after its up.  then i log into recovery mode, and it shutsdown.  any suggestions?06:37
LjLdon't fix things before understanding why they broke06:37
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LjL!xconfig > Fattihvalos    (Fattihvalos, see the private message from Ubotu)06:38
LjLrakyray: any clue in the messages telling you why it would shutdown?06:38
lontraFattihvalos: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:38
rakyraythe only thing i get is a message after the BIOS screen before grub that says it cant' load kbuntu_splashscreen,w hich is odd06:39
blackflagthanks a lot! :) reinstall that packaage solves it !!!06:40
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rakyrayi guess its not hardware, cuz i'm using windows and its not shutting-down06:40
lontrablackflag: np06:40
LjLrakyray: that must be after GRUB... anyway, try booting without the "quiet" option (and remove "splash" too), and see if there's any relevant message (you can do that in the GRUB menu: hit "e", then down-arrow to the kernel command line, "e" again, edit it, and then "b" to boot)06:40
lontraoliver: hi06:40
oliverI got a problem with bluetooth06:40
oliverwhen ever I click it in the system settings menu it just stops and freezes06:41
oliverKubuntu 7.0406:41
LjLblackflag: *find out why it got uninstalled*. run debsums and check that your system is ok. make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed.06:41
rakyrayok, thanks LjL06:41
syntax /msg nickserv set unfiltered on06:41
LjLwithout a space06:41
syntaxsorry =)06:42
lontrai'm sure he knows that06:42
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oliverhang on i think I fixed it06:42
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blackflagI tried to install vmware-server from source waht is ending with errors . I found a websites where it is discribed to solve that problem, what is not working for me06:42
blackflagand it seems I was not able to move the tings back06:43
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blackflagthats the reason06:43
Mozz27with ubuntu getting regular new versions whats the benefit of lts06:43
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lontraMozz27: new software, better hardware detection, bug fixes, new innovations ...06:44
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blackflagsomeone has the latest version of vmware-server installed on feisty?06:45
amanonesomeone, can speak french  pliz ? ^o)06:46
blackflagmy installation end with errors building the vmmon modules06:46
Mozz27lontra is that a benefit on regular dist upgrades or long term support06:46
blackflagCan someone help me vmware server installing?06:46
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blackflagor is trhere anywhere a deb package?06:46
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amanonenobody speak french Oo ?06:47
crazyrobotamanone: #kubuntu-fr06:47
amanone-_- sorry :)06:47
lontrablackflag: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware06:47
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lontraMozz27: i'm not sure i understand the question ... with upgrades and dist-upgrades (provided you stay within the same release ... i.e. always Edgy, Dapper, or Feisty) you'll only get bug fixes.  when you upgrade to newer releases Edgy -> Feisty , i.e., you'll get the benefits i described06:48
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Mozz27sorry lontra its my lack of understanding of linux. This is a big learning curve coming from windows06:50
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blackflagahh, okay thanks!!!06:51
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rakyraygood news is its not shutting down, bad news is I don't know why06:51
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lontraMozz27: no problem.  some distros like ubuntu/kubuntu don't upgrade to newer software within releases.  others like opensuse do if you add the correct repositories.  since ubuntu releases 2 times a year it never lags in new software06:51
rakyrayI removed gdm, since its leftover from before I got kdm06:51
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mefisto__question about gwenview: can I get it to remember to sort files by date instead of by name?06:52
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Mozz27Thanks for your help guys. This channel is going to be a great help to me in my transition to linux06:55
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XBehaveanybody know much about kopete plugins?06:56
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afterwegoAnyone know how to stop programs from starting in the top right corner on a global level?06:57
afterwegoor one of the corners06:57
lontrathere's a setting in kcontrol under windows behaviour06:58
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mefisto__starting in the top right corner?06:58
afterwegoI could have sworn ive searched that thing06:58
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afterwegoI think it actually starts in the bottom left corner, but I couldn't remember06:59
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lontraafterwego: i can't find it now ... but i know there's something in kcontrol that controls taht07:00
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afterwegoOk I suppose i'll just keep digging07:00
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lontraafterwego: try #kde too07:00
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afterwegowill do thanks07:01
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mefisto__afterwego: try desktop>window-specific settings07:03
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afterwegoAlright ill give it a shot07:03
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:22
Admiral_Chicagowb Jucato07:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lirc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:22
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Jucatothanks :)07:22
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PhinnFortdoes "lirc-modules-2.6.20-13-lowlatency" provide the same modules as "lirc-modules-source"?07:26
Faderhvalhey guys... was wondering if theres a way to have Amarok support mp3 with compiling from source?? it seems amarok freezes when i try to do it from amarok07:26
PhinnFortFaderhval: wtf do you want to compile amarok from source?07:27
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thepimpdoes anyone what package contain the command play?07:28
PhinnFortthepimp: try packages.ubuntu.com07:28
PhinnFort sound/sox07:29
PhinnFort!info sox | thepimp07:29
ubotuthepimp: sox: A universal sound sample translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.18.2-1 (feisty), package size 323 kB, installed size 748 kB07:29
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thepimpthanks ubotu07:30
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PhinnForthe's a bot;)07:30
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ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!07:30
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FaderhvalPhinnFort: because it doesent support mp3 default and the usual way of getting amarok to support mp3 freezs the application07:32
jardasmid_What to do now?07:33
PhinnFortFaderhval: it isn't amarok that does the playing07:33
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PhinnFortFaderhval: Amarok uses "engines" who send plays the files/sends the files to programs that play them07:33
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PhinnFortFaderhval: what is "the usual way"?07:34
jardasmid_nobody know what to do now?07:34
PhinnFortjardasmid_: I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about...07:34
PhinnFortjardasmid_: are you in the right channel?07:35
Faderhvalwell if you try to play and mp3 file in amarok it will tell you it dosent support it and then ask to enable support but when the prombt appears it freezes07:35
jardasmid_I've just installed kubuntu and I don't know what should I do now ...07:35
PhinnFort!mp3 | Faderhval07:35
ubotuFaderhval: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:35
PhinnFortjardasmid_: give me all your base would be a beginning;)07:36
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jardasmid_Hey, I realy don't know what to do know.07:37
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PhinnFortjardasmid_: turn off your computer and go out07:37
PhinnFortlook at the grass'07:37
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PhinnFort!hi | manu_07:38
ubotumanu_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:38
manu_i have a timidity server and can play with pmidi files, but with kmid i get no sound output07:38
manu_whats wrong? :(07:38
Kensome2 laptops 400 ea. 1 xbox 360 for 300, 1 ps3 with 3 games, extra controller 500, 1 nintendo ds with game 100$  livraiison/shiiping  incl msn: mberrelley@telusmail.net07:38
manu_i like kmid because of the karaoke function and its graphical userinterface07:39
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ubotuUnsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)07:39
PhinnFortmanu_: sorry, I can't help you07:39
PhinnFortmanu_: you could try in #kde too, if you don't get help here07:39
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jardasmid_It's raining and that strong wind ... I better stay home. I'd like to update my system, install some apps, games, but ... I've got too slow internet connection - 56kbps. Browsing the internet is too slow. I have to wait 1 long minute for web page to be loaded. Why? My usual speed in Windows is around 5Mbps!07:41
PhinnFortjardasmid_: then there's something wrong with your ISP07:42
jardasmid_No, I don't think so.07:42
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jardasmid_Yeah, 5Mbps07:42
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PhinnFortjardasmid_: how do you connect to the internet?07:43
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jardasmid_via cable tv07:43
PhinnFortjardasmid_: well, then there's no reason it would be slower in Linux than in Windows07:44
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thefirstdudejardasmid_, try pinging google, and tell us how long for 10 pings07:44
jardasmid_10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9004ms07:45
jardasmid_rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 144.008/187.227/256.017/39.225 ms07:45
PhinnFortsure beats me: 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3999ms07:45
thefirstdudejardasmid, 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms07:46
phnomthis is a kinda noobish question, but how does one execute a certain command at start-up? (xmodmap .xmodmap in this case)07:46
PhinnFortdoesn't sound too bad07:46
thefirstdudeyou beat me by 3ms07:46
PhinnFortphnom: when you log into KDE or when you boot?07:46
phnomPhinnFort, when you log in07:47
PhinnFortphnom: try the ".kde/Autostart" folder07:47
PhinnFortphnom: right click in it, new link to application07:47
jardasmid_Pls, help me.07:47
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thefirstdudejardasmid, it cant be your internet connection07:48
PhinnFortjardasmid_: try installing opera07:48
thefirstdude./whois jardasmid_07:48
thefirstdudeopera sucks07:48
phnomPhinnFort: ah, ok, tyvm :)07:48
PhinnFortthefirstdude: I don't want to start a flame war, but it has the most features in the smallest download07:48
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PhinnFortand it's also much quicker by default;)07:48
thefirstdudejardasmid_, what browser are you using?07:49
PhinnFort!find opera07:49
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ubotuFile opera found in apparmor-profiles, crossfire-maps, crossfire-maps-small, debian-edu-config, localization-config07:49
thefirstdudeKonqueror is a premature browser in my opinion07:49
thefirstdudefor me it loads in about 10 times the speed firefox07:49
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PhinnFortkonqueror has always been before Firefox in anything;)07:50
PhinnFortthat I can remember, but that's just me07:50
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PhinnFortCSS2, CSS3, uzw07:50
phnomI'd settle with anything that can read css the right way :P07:50
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amitronHello. I am having some sound problems after an upgrade to Feisty Fawn.07:50
PhinnFortwell, Konqueror has always been amongst the first to pass the ACID tests07:50
thefirstdudePhinnFort, I donno why, but it says page loaded, then waits 2 minutes, and then displays?07:50
PhinnFortthefirstdude: then there's something seriously wrong with your install;)07:51
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PhinnFortthefirstdude: what sites are you browsing?07:51
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:51
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jardasmid_I'l try to install firefox, but I don't think it will help, since kopete is connecting to jabber account for 45 seconds, on windows mirranda connects in a second07:52
sercik_after many trying i have finally choose kubuntu07:52
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thefirstdudejardasmid_, why kopete?07:52
thefirstdudejardasmid_, I've never used it before07:52
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PhinnFortKopete owns07:53
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PhinnFortjardasmid_: Kopete is slow on MSN here, but so is the official MSn client07:53
PhinnFortjardasmid_: i believe miranda is connecting while it's loading it's interface07:53
sercik_opn linux try amsn07:53
PhinnFortwhich takes several minutes on the computer's i've tried07:53
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PhinnFortKopete is very good, and it's tightly integrated with KDE07:53
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sercik_amsn support many options like msn on windows07:53
thefirstdudeI'm actually using xubuntu with afew kde apps (like konversation and kate)07:53
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PhinnFortso it's less memory overhead07:54
PhinnFortsercik_: so has Kopete07:54
thefirstdudePhinnFort, not really07:54
PhinnForteven webcam support07:54
PhinnFortthefirstdude: how so?07:54
sercik_only animoticons are not supported07:54
sercik_i use amsn also on windows..07:54
thefirstdudePhinnFort, all the kde junk loaded takes up all my memory (256)07:54
PhinnFortsercik_: Kopete supports custom emoticons07:54
jardasmid_no, I start kopete. When it is loaded, i right-clink on the account icon and select online. Now i have to wait over 45 second to connect07:54
thefirstdudedcopserver, kdeinit, blablabla07:54
PhinnFortthefirstdude: but if you run only KDE, it's much lighter07:54
sercik_PhinnFort: is not a war :)07:54
PhinnFortthefirstdude: please read up on shared libraries;)07:55
sercik_i like kopete but the bast msn clone is msn STOP07:55
PhinnFortjardasmid_: that's what I mean07:55
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thefirstdudePhinnFort, I switched from kubuntu to xubuntu because it's lighter on ram07:55
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thefirstdudeeven when running kde apps07:55
PhinnFortjardasmid_: when you start miranda, it loads forever, just as long as it takes for kopete to connect, i would guess07:55
nimblei dont see why youd want an msn clone, live messenger and all the msn messengers i ever used were pretty bad imo07:55
thefirstdudebecause I can only load dcopserver, and klauncher07:55
PhinnFortthefirstdude: and KDELIBS07:56
sercik_because if you want only to chat use mirc07:56
PhinnFortthe mighty kdelibs07:56
thefirstdudeyeh, I think those get loaded in klauncher07:56
sercik_but if you want send animoticon sound video and audio chat with msn people under windows....07:56
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PhinnFortthefirstdude: KDELIBS is the shared libraries that are shared amongst all kde apps07:56
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PhinnFortthefirstdude: if you're just running one app, it seems huge, but if you run several, it's really small07:57
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PhinnFortthefirstdude: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html07:57
thefirstdudeanyway, KDE uses up much less ram when I custom load it on xubuntu07:57
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thefirstdudeI'm also running konqueror, konversation, ksysguard, and kate07:58
thefirstdudeso I'm using enough apps hopefully07:58
jardasmid_the slowness is not kopete fault. I've found every internet app in kubuntu to be slow. Kubuntu is connected to internet with 50-60 kbps speed, but it should be something around 5Mbps, like in windows. It isn't ISP's fault. It is Kubuntu fault07:58
PhinnFortjardasmid_: have you tried disabling IPv6?07:59
thefirstdudeI should have thought that first07:59
jardasmid_how can i do that?07:59
PhinnFortit's the next generation of the internet protocol, but it's not widely used07:59
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ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv407:59
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PhinnFortjardasmid_: i don't think Windows XP supports it08:00
FaderhvalPhinnFort: thanks for the links but they didnt really help :( i still cant play mp3 files08:00
Faderhvalany suggestions_08:00
PhinnFortFaderhval: what did you try?08:00
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Faderhvaltried installing gstreamer0.10-ugly08:01
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jardasmid_Could not connect to host https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv408:01
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Faderhvalwas the only thing i got from the pages you pasted...08:01
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PhinnFort!find xine08:02
ubotuFound: amarok-xine, gxine, kaffeine-xine, libxcb-xinerama0, libxcb-xinerama0-dbg (and 23 others)08:02
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Faderhvalaye i installed libxine as well with no luck08:03
sercik_!find make08:03
ubotuFound: automake, automake1.10-doc, automake1.4, automake1.7, automake1.8 (and 56 others)08:03
PhinnFort!find mp308:03
ubotuFound: libgmp3-dev, libgmp3-doc, libgmp3c2, beep-media-player, checkmp3 (and 41 others)08:03
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jardasmid_Fuck it! Now I'm going to boot Windows and delete kubuntu. Does anyone know how to restore nt-bootloader, because kubuntu rewrited it with grub with no ask.08:03
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sercik_jardasmid_: this is kubuntu help channel go to microsoft help channel :)08:04
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Lynourejardasmid_: Microsoft has a help page on that. But I can tell you step by step the ipv6 instructions08:05
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jardasmid_go ahead ...08:05
sercik_jardasmid_: use a dos floppy disk and do fdisk /mbr08:05
Lynourejardasmid_: kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist08:05
Lynourejardasmid_: Add this line:  blacklist ipv608:06
PhinnFortit actually exists08:06
FaderhvalPhinnFort: thank you for your help but i dont really know what to do with the info you just sent! im pretty new still to this :)08:06
Lynourejardasmid_: Save the file and restart your computer, After restarting, open up a terminal and type:    ip a | grep inet608:06
PhinnFortFaderhval: I'm just trying to remember what I did;)08:06
LynoureIf there's no output, IPv6 is disabled08:06
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sercik_but is strange that kubuntu installation don't create the voice to start windows08:06
sercik_probably you have installed kubuntu overwriting windows08:06
FaderhvalPhinnFort: aah ok :)08:06
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jardasmid_Why reboot? It's like in windows, reboots forever. Every one was telling me, that no reboots in linux are required exept of kernel upgrade08:08
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Lynourejardasmid_: you can also unload the module and reload, but it is less easy for newbies08:08
jardasmid_what is the module, i can use modprobe08:08
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jardasmid_will rmmod ipv6 do the job?08:09
Lynourejardasmid_: try the check command to see.08:09
jardasmid_ERROR: Module ipv6 is in use08:09
lontrajardasmid_: probably ... /etc/init.d/ipv6 stop08:10
Lynourejardasmid_: indeed. You'd need to run down your interface first.08:10
lontrajardasmid_: then rmmod ipv608:10
jardasmid_i'll try to reboot, wait08:10
PhinnFortjardasmid_: that won't work08:10
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LynourePhinnFort: yep, it will just reload on boot if he only rmmod:ed. Gotta love those "no no, I do it my way" cases =)08:11
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PhinnFortFaderhval: install " libxine-extracodecs"08:13
PhinnFortand try to restart amarok08:13
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Faderhvalyou be da man! it work thank you! xD08:14
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Faderhvali did come across it when reading those pages you first pasted but when i did a search for them in apt it came up with nothing. Must have spelled it wrong08:16
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markowhere is kde installed08:18
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Admiral_Chicagomarko: what do you mean?08:19
marko "./configure --prefix=/path/to/kde/version"08:19
markowhat i need to put here08:19
Admiral_Chicagowhat are you trying to do?08:20
markocompile a kopete plugin08:20
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kristinahi, I'm trying to download kde4 alpha, added the repository as indicated on the site but it couldn't fetch it while doing an apt-get update, is the repository down atm by chance?08:21
Admiral_Chicagokristina: no, you need the right line..08:21
Admiral_Chicagodeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1 feisty main08:21
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Admiral_Chicagogood luck08:21
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kristinaah, ok didn't add the feisty main, tnx08:21
RawSewageIs anyone else's system broken08:22
markowhen i try only with ./configure it says checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!08:22
RawSewageI installed the KDE4 Alpha yesterday, and now my system is broken, and the idiots over at KDE are saying it's all my fault and KDE4 had nothing  to do with it08:23
RawSewageinstead of offering a solution08:23
Sannemarko: that error means you need the X development packages08:23
RawSewageI cant even run KDE3 now08:23
RawSewageIM on the live CD08:23
RawSewagex wont start08:24
nimblewhy did you install kde4?08:24
RawSewagethats irrelevant, thanks08:24
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sercik_hi Admiral_Chicago do you remember me?08:24
RawSewageIm asking for a solution08:24
RawSewageanyone else have problems after installing KDE4 alpha08:24
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Admiral_Chicagosercik_: sorry no I do not08:25
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AFaithhello people08:25
AFaithwhat can I use to play a divx encoded file ?08:25
Admiral_ChicagoRawSewage: i created a new session and it wouldn't launch but thats because i didn't want to hose my install08:25
Admiral_Chicagosercik_: something I can help with?08:25
Sannemarko: you can try libx11-dev, and if that's not enough, xlibs-dev08:25
sercik_no thanks08:26
RawSewageAdmiral_Chicago: thats how I have it set up.  I can choose KDE4 or KDE3 from login.  but now KDE3 wont even work08:26
sercik_i want only to salute you08:26
sercik_you have helped me times ago08:26
Admiral_Chicagocan't say I have that issue08:26
sercik_i need webmin under kubuntu it is possible??08:26
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RawSewageI have no clue whatsoever how to fix it08:27
AFaithRawSewage: try this http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/vlc-beyond-the-basics/08:27
AFaithit really worked08:27
RawSewageAFaith: ty08:27
Admiral_Chicagowhat does webmin do?08:27
sercik_don't you know webmin?08:27
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RawSewageAFaith: I was answering your question08:27
RawSewagevlc plays divx08:27
AFaithAdmiral_Chicago: webmin is the best web-based administration08:27
Admiral_Chicagolike SWAT?08:27
sercik_Hi AFaith08:27
AFaithRawSewage: yes, i know :) i pretended to be a complete n00b08:27
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LynoureRawSewage: It did say developers only... so not surprising. If you can get console, you can remove kde4 and reconfigure kubuntu-desktop, (might be an overkill), if that does not help, try without your ~/.kde08:28
sercik_no no best08:28
AFaithto see if it's really like08:28
AFaithAdmiral_Chicago: it's a lot better than swat08:28
sercik_you can also do remote command08:28
AFaithtry it!08:28
RawSewageLynoure: how do you reconfigure08:28
sercik_AFaith: is nopt installable under kubuntu08:28
sercik_but i need it08:28
AFaithsercik_: you can also create bandwidth shaping with webmin ;)08:28
Admiral_Chicagookay, well i don't know where to find it08:28
AFaithsercik_: VLS ?08:28
AFaithVLC* ?08:29
LynoureRawSewage: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-desktop08:29
RawSewageLynoure: ty08:29
AFaithsercik_: misstyped08:29
LynoureRawSewage: good luck.08:29
sercik_VLC is videolan?08:29
AFaithsercik_: yes08:29
sercik_and i have not requested... i need webmin08:29
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AFaithsercik_: i can install & setup webmin for you :)08:30
sercik_AFaith: how?08:30
AFaithsercik_: via ssh08:30
Admiral_Chicagosercik_: there is a Debian package08:30
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sercik_i don't know you... sorry :)08:31
AFaithAdmiral_Chicago: you can also install it via apt-get if you have enough good repos installed08:31
AFaithsercik_: i understand :))08:31
sercik_Admiral_Chicago: could you give me a repo?08:31
AFaithi've done this mistake myself too :))08:31
sercik_AFaith: i'm not a newbye :)08:31
Admiral_Chicagohold on let me look08:31
AFaithtelling my ip, username and password over a IRC channel :))08:31
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sercik_i use ssh!! i have a server running on my home without keyboard and monitor and i use ssh...08:32
sercik_do you know putty?08:32
AFaithsercik_: neighter am I ;)08:32
AFaithi'm wondering08:32
sercik_i'm sure.. netter than me08:32
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AFaithwho doesn't :))08:32
sercik_better than me08:32
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AFaithany other irc channels for linux distributions ?08:32
sercik_AFaith: but you remember me? i have a flashback08:33
AFaithi really wanna see if VLC is the most popular video player08:33
AFaithand not only :P08:33
AFaithsercik_: what do you mean ?08:33
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sercik_irc password .... etc etc...08:33
Admiral_Chicago i can't seem to find it, i'd install the deb using dpkg08:33
sercik_do you know where is deb package?08:33
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Admiral_Chicagothere sercik_ ^^08:34
t3hfr3aki need help installing the NVIDIA DRIVER08:34
sercik_thank you very much08:34
AFaitht3hfr3ak: try ENVI08:34
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Yorokobi!nvidia | t3hfr3ak08:34
ubotut3hfr3ak: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:34
sercik_t3hfr3ak: first go to nvidia site and download08:34
sercik_then you need to install kernel-headers08:34
AFaithYorokobi: better try envi ;) it works better ;)08:34
Admiral_Chicagot3hfr3ak: follow the link, that'll help you out08:34
Admiral_ChicagoAFaith: its also experimental08:35
AFaithbut it really rocks08:35
YorokobiThe distributed drivers work and are supported.08:35
AFaithi never had problems with it :)08:35
sercik_AFaith: you are right but i have had problems to use package precompiled08:35
AFaithonly in Dapper Drake08:35
sercik_the best way is to compile08:35
sercik_and then there is a better nvidia application that works only with drivers downloaded and compiled08:35
AFaithbtw, can anyone provide me some help with CUPS ?08:36
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sercik_AFaith: what do you need?08:37
AFaithi can't acces the CUPS admin interface via http://localhost:63108:37
navetscan anyone help me with my sound. It is super low compared to windows and I have no master volume control08:37
AFaithit keeps telling me something it's dezactivated08:37
Admiral_Chicagonavets: open up alsamixer in konsole08:37
AFaithi've tried to allow CUPS user and procces to acces the shadow file in /etc but noup, it doesn't work :(08:38
sercik_try to restart cups with /etc/init.d/cupsys restart08:38
dcorbinIs there a good "Kubunut for the experienced Linux user" guide somewhere?08:38
navetsAdmiral_Chicago: i did but i am unable to change my master control volume08:38
sercik_do you access with localhost:63108:38
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AFaithsercik_: yes I do08:39
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sercik_you can't connect?08:39
sercik_try to see in /var/log/cups/errors......08:39
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AFaithwait a minute08:39
navetsAdmiral_Chicago: yes but i can change pcm08:39
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navetsAdmiral_Chicago: pcm changes my volume levle but it doesnt go very high, i can barley hear anything08:40
AFaithit doesn't connect at all :((08:40
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sercik_have you seen the log??08:40
Admiral_Chicagohmm, i'm not good with sound, sorry navets08:40
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sercik_the best things is that you empty log than try to connect and then see logs08:41
sercik_webmin have problems with dependencies08:41
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AFaithsercik_: what is he asking for ?08:41
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AFaithtake my advice, and install the tar gzipped version because it's a much easier and safer08:42
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sercik_he installed but then at the end of installation ask for some libraries to configure08:42
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sercik_webmin is not good under ubuntu08:43
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AFaithsercik_: i use webmin under ubuntu dapper ;) for 3 monthis08:43
AFaithit really rocks!08:43
AFaithtry installinsg something with apt-get08:43
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AFaithif it manages to install right08:43
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AFaiththe dependencies are not a problem08:43
AFaithif not08:43
navetsAdmiral_Chicago: np thx anyway08:44
AFaithit will ask you too run with some argument08:44
sercik_i have manually installed that libraries and now seems work08:44
AFaithi don't remember it now08:44
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AFaithi'll join this channel later08:45
AFaithi'm going to spread ubuntu :))08:45
AFaithon my friends pc's08:45
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ubuntu__the KDE channel pisses me off every time I use it.  maybe I'll switch to GNOME08:45
sercik_AFaith:  so the problem with cups?08:46
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ubuntu__I messed up my computer installing KDE4 Alpha.  I guess I need to do a complete reinstall08:46
navetsdoes anyone know if there is a way i can reinstall my sound driver08:46
AFaithsercik_: got to go now :)) maybe later :)08:46
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sercik_sorry how can i create user and associate it to a group??08:48
ubuntu__how can I access my files in the borked Kubuntu from the Live CD08:48
sercik_useradd -m dino -g studio is right??08:48
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sercik_dino is the user and studio is the group08:49
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angeldarkholmehi....could you pelase help me with this: I have a windows partition and I would like to have administrator rights on it with my normal user...I mean not being root in linux...how can i do this?08:50
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BilfordHow can I access my files on the Kubuntu harddrive from the Live CD08:50
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SSJ_GZBilford: I can't remember for sure, but opening Konqueror and entering media:// in the navigation bar should be a start.08:51
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BilfordSSJ_GZ: ty08:52
markoi think they are mounted at startup08:52
SSJ_GZBilford: Whoops - should be media:/08:52
angeldarkholmedo you know how can i erase, update etc. my windows partition files without being root in linux?08:52
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sercik_you need to mount a partition with special options08:53
sercik_see the command man mount08:53
angeldarkholmebut...it looks like the partitions are always mounted08:53
sercik_angeldarkholme: is not a simple task :)08:53
angeldarkholmei mean at the beginning08:53
Bilfordthe special options begin username password?08:53
sercik_you need to umount and then mount again setting permission to user08:53
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angeldarkholmeis there any config file to08:54
angeldarkholmeset it up?08:54
sercik_you need to add some lines to /etc/fstab