[12:14] <drkns> nicon trial and error might work here
[12:14] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: of course, as soon as i saw Internet Explorer i knew it was BS with the article released today saying they won't even ship WINE on the dell machines
[12:14] <dsmith_> hah, you know what your right
[12:14] <dsmith_> wtf
[12:14] <dsmith_> Shuttleworth did say that
[12:14] <dsmith_> you do need wine for that to work
[12:15] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[12:15] <logixoul> hi. can anyone help with http://rafb.net/p/B04YKq18.html ? I'm in the Kubuntu LiveCD right now.
[12:15] <Dinofly> nicon-: just to be sure: are you expecting kate to open INSIDE the konsole window ?
[12:15] <dsmith_> LIES!
[12:15] <Daisuke_Ido> and if that were actually the desktop they were going to use, they were setting themselves up for failure
[12:15] <drkns> ok good fellas pls let me know if you know how to fix my wireless card speed to 54mbts/sec rather than 18mbits/sec
[12:15] <dsmith_> how come?
[12:15] <dsmith_> kinda bland if you ask me
[12:16] <Lamington> I already used Automatix2... Haven't noticed any problems... If I haven't noticed any problems, should I expect any ?
[12:16] <Admiral_Chicago> please stay on topic. if you aren't asking for help or getting support, please see #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:16] <Daisuke_Ido> non-functional and ugly, looks as bad as the packard bell program launcher did back in the 90s
[12:16] <nicon-> cannot connect to x server?
[12:16] <Lamington> Didn't realise it was bad
[12:16] <Daisuke_Ido> Lamington: i hope you don't have to remove anything
[12:16] <drkns> nicon did you played with your xorg.conf file???
[12:16] <atrax> hi everyone
[12:16] <nicon-> drkns: nope
[12:17] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: while i realize that what i said is purely a subjective view of the desktop, a lot of people would hate it and not know how to change it.
[12:17] <Lamington> Daisuke_Ido: Why is that ?
[12:17] <drkns> because i had the same problem while trying to install latest ati driver
[12:17] <nicon-> Hm, maybe other problem...
[12:17] <drkns> xorg.conf file was the problem
[12:17] <nicon-> I did apt-get install banshee...
[12:18] <nicon-> And i did install this banshee..
[12:18] <drkns> when i tried ti kate it it said cannot connect to x-server
[12:18] <nicon-> But it don't works
[12:18] <nicon-> Any idea?
[12:18] <Daisuke_Ido> Lamington: automatix has a habit of forcing things to install which can cause issues if you have to remove some things
[12:18] <dsmith_> Daisuke_Ido: Oh well, learning curve then, like how many windoze users can do the same thing
[12:18] <Dinofly> i see no reasons an app could open using alt-f2 and not using the command line, that makes no sense
[12:18] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: that's a problem though
[12:18] <dsmith_> not for me
[12:18] <dsmith_> :P
[12:18] <Lamington> Daisuke_Ido: Ah i c... I don't recall that it removed anything
[12:18] <nicon-> Anybody has test banshee at kubuntu 7.04?
[12:19] <nicon-> BTW, sry for my english, i know it's terrible :/
[12:19] <Lamington> What is banshee ?
[12:19] <drkns> nicon you shouldnt need banshee in kubuntu
[12:19] <Lamington> It rings a bell but I forget
[12:19] <nicon-> drkns: why?
[12:19] <Daisuke_Ido> average user: "well, i can get a machine with windows installed and i know it already, but what's this?  oh god that's ugly.  why is my entire control panel sitting at the bottom of the desktop?  screw it, i'm getting windows"
[12:19] <drkns> i believe it has its counterpart in kubuntu
[12:20] <nicon-> drkns: i've installd it bcs it's very such like itunes
[12:20] <logixoul> Lamington: a gnome media player
[12:20] <logixoul> nicon-: try kaffeine
[12:20] <Daisuke_Ido> AMAROK
[12:20] <Lamington> ah
[12:20] <nicon-> logixoul: is that looks like itunes?
[12:20] <Daisuke_Ido> oops
[12:20] <logixoul> nicon-: (kaffeine for video and amarok for audio)
[12:20] <Chris_Swift> "main.cpp:1:21: error: windows.h: No such file or directory" So where can I get the Windows.h for Linux well g++ in particular?
[12:20] <logixoul> nicon-: no
[12:20] <Daisuke_Ido> get amarok and love it :D
[12:20] <nicon-> logixoul: ):
[12:20] <nicon-> amarok, now i work on that q;
[12:20] <nicon-> But i need a program what looks like itunes
[12:20] <Lamington> Amarok is great
[12:20] <nicon-> I love itunes q;
[12:21] <drkns> kaffeine suppose to work with ipod
[12:21] <TheDebugger> Chris_Swift: There's no windows.h in linux..
[12:21] <Daisuke_Ido> nicon-: sudo apt-get install amarok
[12:21] <Lamington> nicon-: How about songbird ?
[12:21] <Daisuke_Ido> actually
[12:21] <nicon-> drkns: i don't got itunes
[12:21] <nicon-> ipod*
[12:21] <Daisuke_Ido> if you're already USING kubuntu
[12:21] <logixoul> nicon-: try also JuK
[12:21] <Daisuke_Ido> you have it already
[12:21] <Chris_Swift> TheDebugger: So I can't program windows apps in Linux?
[12:21] <nicon-> I want to look it like itunes, not to compatible with ipod
[12:21] <Daisuke_Ido> um
[12:21] <Daisuke_Ido> duh?
[12:21] <Lamington> Amarok connects to Magnatune
[12:21] <nicon-> amarok, like i said, now i'm working on that
[12:21] <TheDebugger> Chris_Swift: You can, but you won't be able to test your applications
[12:22] <Dinofly> Chris_Swift: probably using wine
[12:22] <Daisuke_Ido> Lamington: it has a front end for the magnatune store
[12:22] <BluesKaj> BBL
[12:22] <Lamington> Daisuke_Ido: yes
[12:22] <nicon-> Banshee looks the same like itunes
[12:22] <Chris_Swift> Wine'll do but I need to find the sdk for Linux that includes windows.h ...
[12:22] <nicon-> That's why i want it
[12:22] <Daisuke_Ido> nicon-: so install banshee
[12:22] <drkns> its pretty late for this old fart so take care fellas and God be with you with all your linux problems
[12:22] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo apt-get install banshee
[12:22] <nicon-> Daisuke_Ido: like i sait, i've installed this banshee
[12:22] <Daisuke_Ido> okay
[12:22] <nicon-> But it dont work ):
[12:23] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[12:23] <nicon-> When i click on it nothings happend
[12:23] <logixoul> Can anyone help me with http://rafb.net/p/B04YKq18.html ? I'm in the Kubuntu LiveCD right now. Pretty please :)
[12:23] <Lamington> Tried starting it from bash ?
[12:23] <nicon-> Lamington: nope
[12:24] <nicon-> Hm, not it works xD
[12:24] <nicon-> now*
[12:24] <nicon-> thx
[12:24] <makuseru> hi, i have a problem, i had a HP DVD writer and ive tried diffrent programs and diffrent brands of dvds, but it never burns one correctly, i always get errors, someone said K3B had a problem with HP writers, but ive tried more than just k3b, i dont need anything special for hp writers do i?
[12:24] <dsmith_> Daisuke_Ido: I left a commant on that site :)
[12:24] <Lamington> :)
[12:24] <Daisuke_Ido> logixoul: what filesystem is that?
[12:24] <nicon-> But sth is wrong...
[12:24] <nicon-> I can't do anything
[12:24] <dsmith_> I have a HP laptop and can burn ISOs all day long
[12:24] <logixoul> Daisuke_Ido: ext3
[12:24] <navets> can somebody help me set up svideo on kubuntu
[12:25] <logixoul> makuseru: try using K3b as root - rumor has it this solves many problems
[12:25] <Lamington> KDE detected U3
[12:25] <Lamington> :O
[12:25] <dsmith_> lol
[12:26] <Chris_Swift> Hmm, any programmers out there that know of a WIn32 SDK for linux if that makes sense, well I mean a SDK for the Linux g++ but has the windows headers and libs
[12:26] <Minataku> Chris_Swift: MingW
[12:27] <logixoul> Minataku: no, that's the other way round
[12:27] <Minataku> Doh
[12:27] <Minataku> lol
[12:27] <Chris_Swift> !MingW
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mingw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <Minataku> TBH, I wasn't quite clear what he wanted XD
[12:27] <Chris_Swift> !Minataku thanks if it works
[12:27] <Minataku> lol
[12:27] <Minataku> np
[12:27] <Minataku> BTW: I'm not a bot :3
[12:28] <n8k99> Minataku: has passed the Turing test
[12:28] <Dinofly> Chris_Swift: http://www.dumbbell.fr/howto/win32-cross-compilation.en.html
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> i assure you, Minataku isn't a bot.
[12:29] <cox37777> has anyone ever had a grup 18 error?
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> Minataku: he wants to develop windows software on a linux machine
[12:29] <Chris_Swift> Dinofly: Thanks yet again
[12:30] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Actually, that's still MinGW
[12:30] <Minataku> Cross-compilation
[12:30] <xhycko> aew galera
[12:30] <xhycko> alguem pode me ajudar?
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> right
[12:30] <Minataku> !br ! xhycko
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about br ! xhycko - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <Minataku> Er
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> but if you want to develop for windows, use windows
[12:30] <Minataku> !br | xhycko
[12:30] <ubotu> xhycko: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[12:30] <Minataku> Sorry
[12:30] <Daisuke_Ido> know thy enemy and all that
[12:31] <xhycko> !br
[12:31] <Minataku> We prefer if you develop for Linux, of course
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> don't use a real os to develop for a toy :)
[12:31] <Chris_Swift> I am used to developing Windows apps though...
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, belittlement done.
[12:32] <nicon-> K, thx all 4 help
[12:32] <nicon-> Bb all
[12:32] <Minataku> Or better yet, don't use or develop for the toy at all
[12:32] <Daisuke_Ido> Minataku: touche
[12:32] <nicon-> Have a good night
[12:32] <Minataku> Belittlement never ends. It just gets weaker for a moment or two.
[12:32] <Minataku> XD
[12:32] <lucky_lucas> hi
[12:32] <Chris_Swift> Is it possible to run D3D apps on Linux or not?
[12:33] <logixoul> yes
[12:33] <logixoul> use cedega
[12:33] <lucky_lucas> does anyone has tested the kde4 alpha 1 packages ?
[12:33] <logixoul> Please help with http://rafb.net/p/B04YKq18.html - trying to resize ext3...
[12:33] <Admiral_Chicago> lucky_lucas: i'm grabbing it now, there isn't too much to see however
[12:33] <Daisuke_Ido> lucky_lucas: we aren't masochists, no :P
[12:33] <cellfish> alright, i think i have a damaged partition
[12:34] <cellfish> when i deleted my ntfs partition and tried ot change it to an ext3 one, it screwed up and seems irreperable
[12:34] <lucky_lucas> I'am all ok about that it's just to setup the environnment
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> none of the modules are uploaded from what i have seen
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> how the F can you justify writing D3D apps in linux?
[12:34] <cWolfe> does any one know of a command to check voltages of the power supply? Did I cat something in /proc?
[12:35] <lucky_lucas> Admiral_Chicago: because when I add the line deb blabla posted on the kubuntu website, i get 404
[12:35] <cellfish> does anyone know why, when i create a new partition on say /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdb1 is no longer visible when the operation is complete?
[12:35] <Admiral_Chicago> lucky_lucas: feisty?
[12:36] <lucky_lucas> yes
[12:36] <premier_> can programs like gparted safely move files around windows partitions to make them smaller?  Right now I'm considering making my windows partition smaller, but it is up against files listed as "unmovable" by windows defragmenter
[12:36] <Admiral_Chicago> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1 feisty main
[12:36] <lucky_lucas> ok thank you
[12:36] <lucky_lucas> why isn't it written on the website ?
[12:36] <Admiral_Chicago> premier_: defrag your drive in windows first, then resize in
[12:36] <Admiral_Chicago> lucky_lucas: not sure, i'm not in charge of the Kubuntu site, i'll ask around
[12:37] <Daisuke_Ido> Admiral_Chicago: he just said that won't work because the files are marked as unmovable during defrag :)
[12:37] <premier_> Admiral_Chicago: fine, but right now there a files at the end of the drive that windows defrag will *not* move.
[12:37] <Daisuke_Ido> premier_: can you set it to defrag at boot?
[12:37] <Minataku> premier_: Sounds like Microsoft's latest plan to thwart would-be Linux users, to me
[12:37] <lucky_lucas> That's why I came  here too find somebody to fix it
[12:38] <dogatemycomputer> premier_: as long as windows isn't loaded then the files are movable.  Like linux.. it just doesn't like to relocate files on a mounted partition..
[12:38] <Minataku> Stick files at the end of the partition and *censored* people up
[12:38] <lucky_lucas> avoiding the trouble a lot of time
[12:38] <etrange> .
[12:39] <dogatemycomputer> premier_: (defrag mounts the partition before defragging so some files are listed as unmovable..)
[12:39] <Minataku> Not to mention the mere fact that NTFS is a total piece of *censored* *censored*
[12:39] <premier_> well, anyone who's familiar with windows knows that programs cannot be changed, modified, or removed during run time... its a major cause of failures and a good example of poor OS design
[12:39] <dogatemycomputer> Minataku: you go boy!!!
[12:39] <Minataku> ^^
[12:39] <logixoul> Please help with http://rafb.net/p/B04YKq18.html - trying to resize ext3...
[12:39] <Admiral_Chicago> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defrag <-
[12:39] <Admiral_Chicago> make the files contigious.
[12:40] <Minataku> Or just nuke the whole Windows partition
[12:41] <dogatemycomputer> logixoul: was the partition mounted when you tried to resize it?  i've seen that error and booting from the Live CD, installing gparted, unmounting the partition, running a fsck then resizing the partition worked for me.
[12:42] <dogatemycomputer> logixoul: i've never had a partition I couldn't resize when booting from the live CD and unmounting the partition in question..
[12:43] <logixoul> dogatemycomputer: Nope, I took care to umount it first. And yeah, I'm in the Live CD. Only thing I haven't done is run fsck manually (cause I thought gparted was doing it for me). I'll try that next, thanks :)
[12:46] <dsmith_> is it normal for my swap partition to show as being disabled?
[12:46] <premier_> theres a liveCD just for gparted.  Its pretty nice, but I wish it had the ability to do other things like access those file systems.  Is there a system utility live CD?
[12:46] <dogatemycomputer> logixoul: yeah..  i would have thought it would.. and it even says it does.. but maybe something is going wrong with the fsck..
[12:47] <dogatemycomputer> premier_: i've heard of recovery CDs spread throughout the net.. but the LiveCD has always worked for me.  You can even install software from the live CD for temporary use..
[12:48] <premier_> what live cd?  kubuntu?
[12:48] <premier_> actually, I have to hack it to get it to run... lousy dell hardware, you see
[12:48] <logixoul> premier_: yes, the Kubuntu feisty live cd
[12:48] <premier_> so I just use sabayon... why not fix your computer in style?
[12:48] <dogatemycomputer> yeah.. kubuntu
[12:48] <logixoul> dogatemycomputer: ok
[12:49] <dogatemycomputer> logixoul: i haven't really delved into the specifics to find out where adept intalls the software too.  I assume its a ramdisk but I haven't checked.
[12:51] <logixoul> ought to be a ramdisk, I guess
[12:53] <t3hfr3ak> ok i need help setting up multiple monitora
[12:56] <t3hfr3ak> anybody?
[12:57] <logixoul> Hey. If I have unallocated space and *after that* a partition, then I cannot enlarge it directly, but rather I should use a low-level partition copy tool (what's the name again?), then delete the old partition and just _then_ enlarge the new partition. Is that correct?
[12:57] <navets> t3hfr3ak: i have same problem
[12:57] <t3hfr3ak> navets; unsolved?
[12:57] <navets> t3hfr3ak: do you know how to get svideo working
[12:58] <t3hfr3ak> navets; thats what im trying to figure out lol
[12:58] <Uentil> Hey, can someone help?
[12:58] <navets> t3hfr3ak: haha same
[12:58] <navets> t3hfr3ak: suprised there is not a program to do it
[12:58] <t3hfr3ak> me too lol
[12:59] <Uentil> Im on Kubuntu live, i need to move some files from my Win Vista on to my external hdd, can someone tell me how thats done?
[01:01] <t3hfr3ak> navets; i think i found a site with it
[01:01] <malik__> Uentil: open konqi goto /media/sda1............that should be ur primary vista drive
[01:01] <Uentil> Thanks dude.
[01:01] <Uentil> :)
[01:01] <navets> t3hfr3ak: show me plz
[01:01] <logixoul> malik__: hdd partitions don't seem to be automounted in the livecd tho
[01:01] <logixoul> Uentil: first, you mount your w partition in a terminal like so: sudo mkdir /media/w && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/w
[01:02] <t3hfr3ak> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456
[01:02] <logixoul> (where /dev/hda1 is your w partition)
[01:02] <Uentil> okay
[01:03] <malik__> hello ppl i am totally new to photo editing, specially in linux. can some one suggest a website for gimp tutorials or any books available?
[01:03] <Uentil> mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[01:03] <logixoul> Uentil: do you know which device is your Vista partition?
[01:03] <navets> t3hfr3ak: damn i dont have a video card
[01:04] <navets> i mean a nvidia card
[01:04] <logixoul> malik__: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/GIMP
[01:04] <Uentil> No, i dont.
[01:04] <Uentil> Vista isnt working
[01:04] <Uentil> thats why i need it
[01:04] <Uentil> imma transfer files to my external and install kubuntu
[01:05] <malik__> logixoul: thanx dude
[01:05] <logixoul> Uentil: what is the output of `ls /dev/hd*`
[01:05] <logixoul> malik__: you're welcome :)
[01:05] <Uentil> ls: /dev/hd*: No such file or directory
[01:06] <logixoul> hmmmm
[01:06] <logixoul> weird...
[01:07] <Uentil> Any way i could browes for Partitions?
[01:07] <adaptr> Uentil use fdisk -l
[01:07] <logixoul> Uentil: what adaptr said, or alternatively kinfocenter
[01:07] <adaptr> or qtparted
[01:08] <adaptr> qtparted would be the definitive answer
[01:08] <logixoul> that too
[01:08] <Uentil> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l
[01:08] <Uentil> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[01:08] <Uentil> thats all
[01:08] <Uentil> Not finding devices it says
[01:09] <logixoul> Uentil: I suspect your partition table is seriously screwed
[01:09] <logixoul> Uentil: see what qtparted says
[01:09] <Uentil> It says no devices found
[01:10] <logixoul> Uentil: what happens on boot if you don't have the kubuntu cd inserted?
[01:11] <Uentil> It says "Booting from CD" and takes me to a recovery screen
[01:11] <logixoul> huh?
[01:11] <logixoul> what cd?
[01:11] <Uentil> and i tried everything and nothing happens
[01:11] <Uentil> NO CLUE!
[01:11] <logixoul> ok, what recovery screen?...
[01:12] <Uentil> i forget
[01:12] <logixoul> describe it
[01:12] <Tired_> How can I make a link to a network shared folder on a remote computer, so that when I'm browsing files with Konq, I can click on the link and it'll open the shared folder?
[01:12] <Uentil> it was like
[01:12] <GuyFromHell> is the kde4-alpha1 repo working for anyone
[01:12] <Uentil> boot normaly
[01:12] <Uentil> or do system recovery
[01:12] <Uentil> and it wouldnt recover correctly
[01:12] <Tired_> It's annoying to have to browse to smb://sharename every time.
[01:12] <yurimxpxman> is there any way to automatically store the linked images inside an OpenOffice document?
[01:13] <Tired_> I was hoping to put links in /mnt, so I could work with them like mounted drives, only with Samba doing the heavy lifting.
[01:13] <cox37777> i'm manually creating partitions in ubuntu server and there is no swap patition in the options
[01:13] <cox37777> anyone got any ideas?
[01:14] <Schatzy> alo
[01:14] <Schatzy> lucas
[01:14] <slicknick> any idea why kmix is not keeping/saving my change when i choose USB Logitech headset
[01:14] <adaptr> cox37777 create partition first, change type later
[01:14] <lucky_lucas> Hi I'm back with kde4 but does anyone knows where okular is hide ?
[01:14] <Schatzy> alguien habla espa;ol aca
[01:15] <Uentil> Imma try something else, be back later maybe
[01:15] <Uentil> Peace.
[01:15] <cox37777> adaptr: where do i change it mate? and what do i set it to at the moment
[01:16] <cox37777> adaptr: did u see what i put as my set up? as in do u think it will work?
[01:16] <adaptr> cox37777 you say you are manually creating partitions - how ?
[01:17] <cox37777> adaptr: welll i'm just going through the partitioner,
[01:17] <cox37777> adaptr: when first installing
[01:17] <roguejedix> The guide says to uninstall samba when upgrading. Is that just the package "samba" or everything samba related?
[01:18] <adaptr> roguejedix upgrading from what to what ?
[01:18] <cox37777> adaptr: if i create a /boot do i need to set a boot flag?
[01:18] <roguejedix> adaptr: Edgy to Feisty
[01:18] <roguejedix> I was a bit unclear, sorry
[01:18] <adaptr> nice nick by the way, it puts you squarely in the 15-21 age bracket :)
[01:19] <adaptr> I didn't uninstall anything, just sudo update-manager -c and let it go
[01:19] <roguejedix> What can I say? I'll always be a kid at heart :P
[01:20] <roguejedix> It actually did hang at one point for me
[01:20] <adaptr> cox37777 no, you don't generally need a boot*able* flag with GRUB
[01:20] <Skyblast> Some, but not all h/x264 .mp4 files have green blocking across the left side. Is there a setting in the xine engine that I can change or is the *264's just not that well supported yet? They work just fine in VLC and MPlayer.
[01:20] <Skyblast> Oh, my bad, I'm playing them in Kaffeine.
[01:20] <cox37777> adaptr: just one last thing
[01:21] <cox37777> i've put the / at the end opposed to directly after the /boot
[01:21] <cox37777> adaptr: would what mater?
[01:22] <adaptr> it depends - the best arrangement for a single-disk install would be /swap firts, then /home, and last / - in order of decreasing disk speed
[01:22] <adaptr> why are you making a separate /boot ? it serves no purpose unless you run multiple distributions
[01:22] <cox37777> adaptr: because i have an old bios and keep getting grub 18 errors
[01:22] <cox37777> adaptr: not sure if u have seen it before
[01:23] <roguejedix> Is that the one where you have to set all disks to LBA mode?
[01:23] <adaptr> cox37777 yes, *I* (that's actually a one-letter word - "you", however, is not) have seen pretty much anything there is to see in the last 18 years of PC industry
[01:24] <cox37777> adaptr: do you know what i am trying to do?
[01:24] <adaptr> and especially with an older BIOS, you should always set all disks to LBA mode if possible
[01:24] <adaptr> cox37777 not really, why don't you enlighten us ?
[01:24] <cox37777> adaptr: lol :s going round in circles
[01:25] <adaptr> you're trying to go around in circles ? have you tried tying one foot to a chair, or something ?
[01:25] <adaptr> I'm pretty sure that will help
[01:26] <logixoul> hehe
[01:26] <cox37777> adaptr: story goes like this, tried installing 6.06 ubuntu and got the grup 18 error and that was auto disk setup. i then tried with this making a small 32mb /boot at the front but it didnt work, i then came home from work last night and just let the 7.04 server addition just run and low and behold it installed. I mssed it up when i was playing so i went to reinstall the same way and now i'm getting the grub 18 again after a reinstall.
[01:26] <cox37777> So here i am once again trying to find a solution to getting 7.04 to install again
[01:27] <adaptr> cox37777 describe your hardware
[01:27] <cox37777> it's a P3/450MHZ sitting on a ASUS P2B-F motherboard with a 160gig hdd and about 300mb ram
[01:28] <adaptr> does it actually *see* the entire 160GB ?
[01:28] <adaptr> what type of HD and did you run any extender tools on it to make it see the additional 32 GB ?
[01:28] <cox37777> it does when i had linux installed before i tired reinstalling
[01:28] <adaptr> because you really better not, it'l complicate things enormously
[01:29] <cox37777> as in ubuntu saw the whole disk
[01:29] <adaptr> this has nothing whatsoever to do with Linux, or any other OS
[01:29] <cox37777> adaptr: no i didn't try any extender tools
[01:29] <adaptr> what disk ?
[01:29] <adaptr> where is the disk connected to the controller ?
[01:29] <adaptr> is it an UDMA disk, is it on an UDMA cable ?
[01:30] <cox37777> adaptr: its a western digital HDD IDE
[01:30] <dogatemycomputer> adaptr: i'm not sure what the bios "seeing" the whole disk has anything to do with getting grub to boot?
[01:30] <adaptr> dogatemycomputer cylinder boundaries, for starters
[01:30] <cox37777> adaptr: it's connected to the IDE1 slot on the motherboard
[01:31] <dogatemycomputer> adaptr: then shouldn't just making the boot partition relatively small (end prior to the 1023rd cylinder) allow grub to boot?
[01:31] <adaptr> certain ahuem.. other OSes tend to fill the partition table with data gotten from the BIOS, which will be incorrect, and GURB doesn't use the BIOS i fit can help it
[01:31] <adaptr> dogatemycomputer that depends entirely on how the disk was originally partitioned
[01:31] <dogatemycomputer> adaptr: ahhhh.. i assumed he formatted the disk.. my bad..
[01:31] <adaptr> no, not formatted - partitioned
[01:32] <dogatemycomputer> adaptr: (or at least emptied it)
[01:32] <cox37777> dogatemycomputer: os this an irraversable problem?
[01:32] <adaptr> cox37777 it's software - nothing is irreversible
[01:32] <dogatemycomputer> cox37777: sorry.. i'm just sticking my nose into the conversation.. i'm letting adaptr take it from here..
[01:33] <dogatemycomputer> cox37777: its certainly not irreversable..
[01:33] <adaptr> cox37777 can you boot the system and check what the BIOS thinks of the disk ? and by "IDE1" did you mean the first slot, or the second ? the first is normally callled IDE0
[01:33] <cox37777> dogatemycomputer: no problem, This is a laugh or cry situation @ the moment
[01:34] <cox37777> in terms of the motherboard it's in 1st IDE as the second slot states 'secondary IDE'
[01:34] <cox37777> adaptr: what do you mean by what the bios thinks? what am i looking for?
[01:34] <dogatemycomputer> cox37777: the worst thing that I can see happening is to basically wipe the partitions, create a really small partition at the beginning of the drive for grub then partition the rest of the drive ..
[01:35] <cox37777> dogatemycomputer: I'm currently sitting at the partitioner at the moment
[01:35] <adaptr> cox37777 the BIOS reports the IDE devices it finds when you boot - hit the PAUSE key and read what that says
[01:36] <cox37777> adaptr: ok shall reboot now
[01:36] <adaptr> noooes!
[01:36] <adaptr> :)
[01:37] <cox37777> adaptr: what sorry?
[01:37] <jordo23> For some reason....all of a sudden, my second hard drive (sdb1) won't let me write to it.....any ideas?
[01:37] <cox37777> adaptr: was that message for me?
[01:38] <jordo23> The drive is also listed in /etc/fstab
[01:38] <adaptr> yes, and no
[01:38] <adaptr> go on about your business :)
[01:38] <cox37777> adaptr: shall I reboot?
[01:38] <adaptr> well, yes - you want to see the boot screen
[01:39] <cox37777> adaptr: ok 2 ticks
[01:39] <cox37777> adaptr: ok paused :D
[01:40] <navets> hey i need some help from anyone who knows anything about monitor layout
[01:40] <navets> what does LFP mean?
[01:40] <cox37777> !LFP
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lfp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: would it make sense to you if I said to unmount the partition and do a fsck then reboot?  Did you chance anything in your fstab file that would change your access to the drive?
[01:41] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: Not sure anything was changed....it was mounted fine last I checked....
[01:42] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: I don't even think I rebooted in the last week....I rebooted now....and still isn't mounted correctly or something...
[01:43] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: in that case..  can you open a console and type 'mount' to see what drives are mounted?
[01:43] <dogatemycomputer> if you could cut/paste the line that applies to the read-only device then that would be helpful.
[01:44] <cox37777> adaptr: hello?
[01:44] <adaptr> yes ?
[01:44] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: It says sdb1 is mounted.....can't create dirs on command line either....permission denied...
[01:44] <cox37777> adaptr: i'm at the pause screen
[01:44] <adaptr> so what disk data do you see ?
[01:44] <jordan> hey could anyone tell me how i know whether to use nvidia-glx, legacy, or new
[01:45] <adaptr> Ubuntu will decide for you
[01:45] <OptimusRex> Hi all. Does anyone know how to kill firefox that has crashed but is still running in the background?
[01:45] <adaptr> OptimusRex erm.. kill it ?
[01:45] <cox37777> adaptr: CHS.UDMA 2, 8455MB
[01:45] <jordan> killall firefox
[01:45] <adaptr> cox37777 ah, there you are... but that's only 8GB
[01:45] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: give me a sec.. brb
 yes kill it
[01:45] <OptimusRex> stop it running
[01:45] <adaptr> OptimusRex no, that was the answer
[01:46] <Skyblast> In Konquerer, how do I set it to not take away the search bar when I change view modes?
[01:46] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer:  http://www.pastebin.ca/483964
[01:46] <cox37777> adaptr: does this mean I should set the partitioner up using a small /boot?
[01:46] <OptimusRex> how do I enter that in the konsole
[01:46] <adaptr> I can list at least 4 different ways to do that
[01:46] <adaptr> cox37777 it doesn't mean anything YET
[01:46] <OptimusRex> I remember something like killall...
[01:46] <cox37777> adaptr: Ok
[01:46] <jordan> killall firefox
[01:46] <slicknick> whos got the direct link to multiple programs sharing sound?
[01:46] <adaptr> cox37777 is that disk, in fact, 8GB in size ?
[01:46] <mike_> can someone help me install JRE?
[01:47] <cox37777> adaptr: 160GB
[01:47] <adaptr> cox37777 the BIOS only sees 8GB, so using CHS is a big no-no
[01:47] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: sorry about that..
[01:47] <adaptr> switch it to LBA in the BIOS
[01:47] <adaptr> you'll have to re-install everything, i.e. wipe the partition table
[01:48] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: okay..  have you tried taking ownership of the partition?
[01:48] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: Why would it work before but not now though?
[01:48] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: Does the pastebin show it's mounted correctly?
[01:49] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: I think its "sudo chown -R yourusername:users /dev/sdb1
[01:49] <dogatemycomputer> "
[01:49] <cox37777> adaptr: ok changed in bios, now it reads LBA, UDMA 2, 8455MB
[01:49] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: what's the pastebin link again?
[01:49] <jordo23> http://www.pastebin.ca/483964
[01:49] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: nevermind..  found it.
[01:49] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: What should be in the user's part of that command...
[01:49] <adaptr> cox37777 good, now both GRUB and the BIOS will agree on how the partitions are set up
[01:50] <adaptr> cox37777 now you can create a small partition to hold /boot
[01:50] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: The word 'users'?
[01:51] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: yeah.. basically you are reassigning ownership of the partition and all files on the partition to you
[01:51] <cox37777> adaptr: ok great, so I'm going for 100mb /boot primary + 150gb / logical + 2gb /swap logical?
[01:51] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: you're a user.. right? :)
[01:51] <adaptr> cox37777 why use logical partitions at all ?
[01:51] <adaptr> cox37777  I do advise you to create a separate /home
[01:51] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: yep.. it looks like it was mounted properly..
[01:51] <cox37777> adaptr: Sorry, a lot of this is guess work on my part
[01:51] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: Did the command....seemed fine.....do I have to reboot?
[01:52] <adaptr> cox37777 okay... in that case, I suggest you create 128MB /boot, memory-size swap, 16GB / and the rest for /home
[01:53] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: if you take ownership and you don't see any significant errors then no.. you should be able to write to the partition..
[01:53] <cox37777> adaptr: ok I am at the partitioner again now, I shall set it up
[01:53] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: Ran the command seemed fine....but no write from KDE
[01:54] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: still can't write to the partition?
[01:54] <adaptr> jordo23 dogatemycomputer that's not the way to alter permissions on a drive
[01:54] <cox37777> adaptr: and all this is in Ext3
[01:54] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: Cannot create file or directory from command line to /media/sdb1
[01:54] <jordo23> adaptr: Do you know what I should do?
[01:54] <adaptr> jordo23 you need to chmod the *mount point*
[01:54] <dogatemycomputer> adaptr: go for it..
[01:55] <crazyrobot> all your /dev/partions should be root/disk   do chmod a+w /media/sdb1
[01:55] <jordo23> adaptr:  /media/sdb1 or /dev/sdb1?
[01:55] <adaptr> jordo23 the mount point is the filesystem location
[01:55] <adaptr> you can only chmod a partition when it's mounted
[01:55] <adaptr> is the partition empty ?
[01:56] <ScarFreewill> what is a nice dc client for kde?
[01:56] <Admiral_Chicago> dc+
[01:56] <Admiral_Chicago> what is Dc? sorry
[01:56] <jordo23> adaptr: The drive is a 250 (one large fat32) partition. Was working fine yesterday and I could write to it. Did not reboot....now all of a sudden I can't write to it...
[01:56] <ScarFreewill> Admiral_Chicago: dcpp...
[01:56] <Admiral_Chicago> okay you lost me.
[01:56] <crazyrobot> jordo23: can you read from it?
[01:56] <adaptr> jordo23 does it have to be FAT32bitch ? :(
[01:57] <ScarFreewill> Admiral_Chicago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC++
[01:57] <jordo23> adaptr: Yeah....was working flawlessly....I don't get it....
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks ScarFreewill
[01:57] <jordo23> crazyrobot: Yeah....I can read from it, but cannot write to it anymore..
[01:57] <ScarFreewill> there is a linux one there but you have to go and compile it...
[01:58] <ScarFreewill> !dc
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> !dc++
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dc++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <ScarFreewill> !dcpp
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcpp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <adaptr> jordo23 is the partition in your fstab ?
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> crap, i've heard of it too
[01:58] <ScarFreewill> :$
[01:59] <jordo23> adaptr: Yeah....please check my fstab....http://www.pastebin.ca/483981
[01:59] <ScarFreewill> i was using valknut and its in apt but i was looking for others
[01:59] <cox37777> adaptr: another question, does /boot files know where the /root is?
[02:00] <cellfish> ok i really don't get it
[02:00] <cellfish> i delete a partition, i create a new one
[02:00] <cellfish> if i format in ext3, the drive goes offline and i have to turn off and restart the computer to get it back and the partition becomes corrupted
[02:00] <cellfish> if i format in fat32, it formats quickly but no matter how much i change the permissiions, it never allows me to copy into it
[02:01] <cellfish> and if i format as reiserfs, it works but i can't copy huge chunks of data otherwise the drive just stalls
[02:01] <adaptr> jordo23 /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 fat user,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[02:01] <adaptr> jordo23 and then mount it, then sudo chmod 777 /media/sdb1
[02:01] <dogatemycomputer> cellfish: that sounds like a failing drive..
[02:02] <jrjx> How do I quickly / easily determine the basic version of Kubuntu I am running, presumably from the Konsole command line?
[02:02] <cellfish> dogatemycomputer: i know, and yet it was absolutely fine until i started installing linux
[02:02] <adaptr> jordo23 FAT doesn't actually have permissions, so you need to provide full perms on the root of the partition
[02:02] <jordo23> adaptr: What's the exact mount command?
[02:02] <GrueTamer> jrjx, do you mean the kernel, or the actual kubuntu version?
[02:02] <adaptr> cox37777 the initrd and kernel images are on /boot, which is all the loader needs to be able to find
[02:02] <adaptr> jordo23 I showed you
[02:02] <stdin> !version | jrjx
[02:02] <ubotu> jrjx: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[02:03] <jordo23> adaptr: No....sorry.....do I have to reboot first?
[02:03] <dogatemycomputer> cellfish: you know..  it wouldn't be the first time i've had linux find a failing device before Windows or even Mac.  Linux expects a device to respond properly and if it doesn't then it does its best to protect you early on.  If anyone else has anything to add then please do.
[02:03] <adaptr> jordo23 edit fstab then mount /media/sdb1 -o remount
[02:03] <jordo23> adaptr: That's what Im lookin for...thanks.
[02:03] <cox37777> adaptr: Ok, now in the install process. Many thanks for all the help and wish me luck
[02:03] <jrjx> Ummm...  Both, I suppose.  I *think* it's 5.10, but I want to be sure for a bug report I'm filing.  (Not a Kubuntu bug, but for ... http://www.visibone.com/javascript/jt1.html.  Automated Javascript compatibility testing.
[02:03] <GrueTamer> cox37777, good luck
[02:03] <cox37777> GrueTamer: thank mate
[02:03] <cox37777> thanks*\
[02:03] <GrueTamer> no problem
[02:04] <jordo23> adaptr: Did that....edited fstab, then ran the two commands......still no write....
[02:04] <GrueTamer> anybody whos installing linux for the first time (i assume this is your first time, tell me if im wrong) deserves luck
[02:04] <jordo23> adaptr: Try reboot?
[02:04] <adaptr> jordo23 no reboot - NEVER any reboot
[02:04] <adaptr> that's microfuckingsoft thinking
[02:05] <adaptr> it's just a disk FCS
[02:05] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: what do you see if "cd /mnt" then "ls -la"
[02:05] <jordo23> adaptr: Sorry....what now though?
[02:05] <stdin> jrjx: use "lsb_release -a" to get the version of k/ubuntu you are using, and "uname -r" for the kernel version
[02:05] <dogatemycomputer> or cd /media
[02:05] <adaptr> jordo23 no need for sorry... but yeah, post the result of ls -la /media
[02:05] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: i'm curious if you even have rights to write to the drive.
[02:06] <jordo23> adaptr dogatemycomputer:  http://www.pastebin.ca/483989
[02:07] <adaptr> jordo23 you did not chmod - did you remember to use sudo ?
[02:07] <jordo23> adaptr: Yeah....went to the next line....no error
[02:08] <dogatemycomputer> adaptr: I had to take ownership of my drive to get it to work right.. not sure why.
[02:08] <jordo23> adaptr: Ran it again...
[02:08] <john> huuhuu
[02:08] <jordo23> no error....same ls-la results
[02:09] <jordo23> adaptr: Still cannot create files on command line to /media/sdb1 (permission denied)
[02:09] <N6REJ> good evening all
[02:09] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: sudo chown jordo23:users /media/sdb1
[02:09] <N6REJ> Anyone know how to figure out what is causing ascii graphical characters at boot up?
[02:10] <jrjx> Thankee for the answer.  Worked.
[02:10] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: Operation Not Permitted?
[02:10] <adaptr> jordo23 if you run sudo chmod 777 /media/sdb1 and it does not show rwxrwxrwx perms afterwards, then.. ehm.. SOMEthing went wrong
[02:10] <jordo23> adaptr: How is that possible?
[02:10] <jsubl2> dogatemycomputer: i believe you have to change options in the fstab
[02:11] <jsubl2> man fstab
[02:11] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: ls -la /mnt
[02:11] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: ignore that last message
[02:11] <adaptr> I have no idea, but if you're the only user of this system you can try setting uid and gid in fstab
[02:11] <jordo23> dogatemycomput: Good....nothing in that dir
[02:11] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: ahhhh
[02:11] <adaptr> jordo23 can you post the output of "mount" ?
[02:11] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: try this..
[02:12] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: chown jordo23:root /media/sdb1
[02:12] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: let me test it on my system..
[02:12] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: I have a similar setu..
[02:13] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: Says Operation Not Permitted, even when ran with sudo
[02:13] <OptimusRex> How do I stop Adept if it's running in the background?
[02:13] <jordo23> adaptr: http://www.pastebin.ca/484004
[02:13] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: in that case i'm at a loss too.  It lets me take ownership of my device and change permission without an issue.  Hmmmmmmmm.. have you unmounted it, fsck then rebooted?
[02:14] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: I don't think so....
[02:14] <jordo23> adaptr told me not to reboot
[02:14] <jordo23> dogatemycomputer: I don't think it was ever unmounted then remounted...
[02:14] <adaptr> there's absolutely no need to EVER do that
[02:15] <jordo23> adaptr: I agree with you in theory.....
[02:15] <adaptr> jordo23 you can try adding uid=<yourusername> to the mount options in fstab
[02:15] <dogatemycomputer> sudo umount /media/sdb1 , sudo fsck /dev/sdb1 ..  you probably don't need too but who knows...  i've seen stranger.
[02:15] <adaptr> jordo23 it doesn't matter whether you "agree" with that - it's a fact
[02:15] <Yorokobi> OptimusRex, 'sudo killall adept-manager' I believe. You can use 'ps wax | grep adept' to get the name/pid and kill -9/killall from there.
[02:15] <jordo23> adaptr: Where in fstab?
[02:16] <adaptr> add it to the other options for sdb1
[02:16] <jordo23> adaptr: At the end of the line?
[02:16] <OptimusRex> Yorokobi, Thanks.
[02:16] <dogatemycomputer> jordo23: here is an excellent fstab tutorial if you're curious.. http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[02:17] <adaptr> jordo23 no, *ADD IT TO THE OPTIONS* - if you dont' know what the options are then man mount
[02:17] <cox37777> adaptr: you are a legend
[02:17] <jordo23> adaptr: Options is after type....but I want to get the line right...
[02:17] <adaptr> I know...
[02:18] <adaptr> cox37777 I assume you have it installed ?
[02:18] <cox37777> adaptr: yes
[02:18] <adaptr> cox37777 chalk it up to ~15 years of PC hardware experience :)
[02:18] <cox37777> and it seems to have gone through fine
[02:18] <adaptr> cox37777 the only real magic there was setting the disk to use LBA mode - it would NEVER have worked until you did
[02:19] <cox37777> adaptr: lol .. i spent about 10 hours of getting very angry with it, finally got it working then messed it up and got back to this when i was just finalizing the workings
[02:19] <adaptr> that's how it goes
[02:19] <stanley> hey cox37777 can u help me with a kbfx prob??
[02:19] <cox37777> stanley: whats up with it?
[02:19] <tin> it seems weird, but when you'r setting up a new system, or making big changes to an old system, it helps ti write things down on paper
[02:20] <stanley> none of the settings i've selected are being applied
[02:20] <tin> i moved some partitions around for kubuntu, and somewhere the partition table got hosed
[02:20] <cox37777> stanley: i would love to help but unfortunatly i know nothing about it. Ummm
[02:20] <stanley> ok
[02:20] <cox37777> !kbfx
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <tin> so both the eventual kubuntu install and windows were dead after the rebot
[02:20] <cox37777> stanley: is it a theme?
[02:21] <tin> i sort of remembered where the partition boundaries were and got it fixed, but if i had wirrtten it down, woulda been fixed in seconds
[02:22] <tin> instead of hours of parted manual reading and guessing on how many bytes in a given partition
[02:22] <N6REJ> is there anyone that can help me with my bootup propblem?
[02:22] <stanley> yea...it;s a menu theme program
[02:24] <raylu> I can't boot from the Feisty CD on my other computer
[02:24] <raylu> it hangs after loading on what looks like a tty
[02:24] <raylu> with 2 lines at the bottom:
[02:24] <raylu> Int 14: CR2 and some hex
[02:25] <adaptr> did you md5 check the CD after dling ?
[02:25] <raylu> no, but I installed with it on this machin
[02:25] <raylu> *machine
[02:26] <raylu> i also tried it with an ubuntu cd that I used on a friend's machine and it gave the same error
[02:26] <adaptr> then it's a bad drive, a broken system, or a really weird combination of hardware
[02:26] <adaptr> but I'd check the CD cable first ;-)
[02:26] <raylu> I put the CD in under XP and it loaded up the openWhatever program fine
[02:27] <N6REJ> surely somebody around here knows what might be causing me to get graphical ascii characters for text instead of regular text during bootup when it didn't happen before.
[02:28] <N6REJ> look here to see what I mean... http://www.n6rej.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=70
[02:28] <raylu> graphical ascii characters for text?
[02:29] <N6REJ> raylu: yep, look at the pictures.
[02:29] <raylu> you mean why are you in a terminal window?
[02:29] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: that looks like a bad CD..
[02:30] <N6REJ> raylu: no, if you look closely at the images you'll see that they are not text.  They are mostly ascii graphics.
[02:30] <N6REJ> dogatemycomputer: thats my HD
[02:30] <N6REJ> dogatemycomputer: it was fine, this happened suddenly
[02:30] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: then it only gets worse from here..
[02:30] <N6REJ> dogatemycomputer: I lost my sound at the same time.
[02:30] <raylu> oh, i've had that before when I screwed around with my xorg.conf, N6REJ
[02:30] <autoclip> how do I tell KDE to not automatically copy selections into the clipboard? I'd prefer explicitly using ctrl-c.
[02:30] <N6REJ> well it does't do that once I'm in kde
[02:30] <raylu> perhaps you should fix the your /etc/modprobe.d
[02:31] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: does it boot into X after the trash finishes spewing on your screen?
[02:31] <raylu> autoclip, try klipper settings
[02:31] <N6REJ> dogatemycomputer: yep
[02:31] <N6REJ> beeps, squaks has a fit, but then loads fine just no sound.
[02:31] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: what kernel are you running?
[02:31] <N6REJ> 2.6.20-15-gerenric
[02:32] <N6REJ> does it on -14 also
[02:32] <N6REJ> I tried to install vmware server and I don't know if thats when it happened or not
[02:32] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: does this describe the problem?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/63970
[02:33] <DarlMcBride> The Ubuntu ops didn't like my nick.
[02:34] <SCOTroll> Hmm, not official enough.
[02:34] <TheSCOTroll> There, perfect.
[02:34] <N6REJ> dogatemycomputer: yes similar.  During bootup its a mess but once I'm in KDE I can run terminal and its clear
[02:35] <autoclip> raylu: thanks
[02:35] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: did you try commenting out the splash in grub to see if that corrects the problem?
[02:36] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: its worth a shot..
[02:36] <TheSCOTroll> I got a letter from SCO in the mail asking me to pay a $699 fee for using Linux. Has anyone gotten these letters from the SCO group?
[02:36] <N6REJ> dogatemycomputer: no I don't know how
[02:36] <TheSCOTroll> Shouldn't the KUbuntu people set up an account with The SCO Group so they can pay this for the users?
[02:37] <N6REJ> !grub
[02:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:38] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: well... the menu list is /boot/grub/menu.lst .. if the bug applies.. then there should be a line in there that looks similar to the line described in the bug report..
[02:39] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: use your favorite text editor to comment it out (just insert a "#" in front of the line) and save it.
[02:39] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: does that make sense to you?
[02:39] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: I would backup the file first though.. this way you can boot from the live CD and restore it if needed.
[02:40] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: you can also follow the tutorial to basically reinstall grub?
[02:43] <OptimusRex> Help! I can't stop Adept running in the background or at least that is what Automatix says.
[02:43] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: as for sound.. no clue.. I would start with 'dmesg' and make sure the card was installed and detected properly.  You can also check lspci to make sure its installed/detected properly.
[02:43] <dogatemycomputer> !automatix
[02:43] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:43] <N6REJ> dogatemycomputer: I believe mine is already set to quiet.  I'm going to try rebooting now and see what happens... perhaps the had is going bad :(
[02:43] <adaptr> why doesn't the SCO troll post his checking account so we can withdraw $6.99 for every line he utters ?
[02:43] <adaptr> sounds fairer to me, and easier too
[02:43] <OptimusRex> ok. So the best advice is to uninstall it?
[02:44] <TheSCOTroll> CRAP FLOOD
[02:44] <TheSCOTroll> !canceled
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about canceled - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <dogatemycomputer> OptimusRex: sorry.. never even used it.  I do know its still in beta and beta software is scares me.
[02:45] <dogatemycomputer> OptimusRex: i'm not good enough yet..
[02:45] <OptimusRex> thanks dogatemycomputer. I will uninstall right away
[02:46] <Feldegast> given SCO is a dead company trading who exactly would we pay? also consider that the extortion er um licensing inititive was put on hold pending the court cases
[02:47] <PenguinsRule> Linux is better than SCO.
[02:47] <PenguinsRule> I had a question about SMP in Linux.
[02:47] <K-Ryan> Hey hey
[02:48] <raidmax> hey anyone know any cgi?
[02:48] <raidmax> i really need some help
[02:48] <Feldegast> while i am in here (and active) how easy is it to enable dual monitors in kubuntu?
[02:48] <TheSCOTroll> raidmax: You mean Common Gateway Interface?
[02:48] <K-Ryan> I've heard it's not that bad, but I haven't done it personally.
[02:48] <raidmax> yes TheSCOTroll thats exactly wat i mean
[02:48] <Feldegast> raidmax depends on the type of cgi, can be C, C++, perl etc
[02:48] <raidmax> perl?
[02:49] <raidmax> anyone kno
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> Anyone tried installing Feisty as a Xen guest? Just wondering if it's worth experimenting with
[02:49] <Yorokobi> raidmax, this is not a perl/cgi channel
[02:49] <TheSCOTroll> Watch out how you implement anything that interacts with the httpd via CGI. If you have an instance of your program for every request, you'll use a lot of memory.
[02:50] <raidmax> i have a website with a submit button and when i click it it should display Hello but it doesnt it brings the code from the cgi i wanna use up
[02:50] <TheSCOTroll> raidmax: You need to be more specific.
[02:50] <Feldegast> sounds like the apache conf isn't configured right
[02:50] <raidmax> i dont even know if i have apache someone told me the same thing
[02:50] <raidmax> i have xampp on windows but i dnt kno how to use it
[02:51] <Feldegast> in linux apache is the recomended webserver
[02:51] <raidmax> can u walk me thru it?
[02:51] <crdlb> Feldegast: either that or lighttpd
[02:51] <PenguinsRule> I am trying to get my school to switch from M$ Windows to Linux, but the system administrator laughed at me. How can I convince him that Linux is the best?
[02:51] <Feldegast> to enable perl? not from memory sorry
[02:51] <raidmax> kk
[02:52] <Feldegast> it's on the perl website iirc
[02:52] <PenguinsRule> I love Linux because it runs Gimp and openoffice, which are superior to those Windows programs. And kubuntu is the best.
[02:53] <PenguinsRule> What reasons can I give to get my school to switch to kubuntu?
[02:53] <Feldegast> PenguinsRule from what?
[02:53] <PenguinsRule> Windows 2000
[02:53] <hitmanWilly> PenguinsRule: you could try the virus angle
[02:53] <Feldegast> \increased reliablility, reduced cost, increased flexability
[02:54] <N6REJ> dogatemycomputer: well, its a little better... look at this... http://www.n6rej.com/images/stories/cimg0854.jpg  This was taken at the login screen I told it to make the session "console" instead of kde.
[02:54] <TheSCOTroll> PenguinsRule: Linux costs more ($699 SCO IP license fee a wack versus Windows).
[02:54] <N6REJ> hiya hitmanWilly
[02:54] <Feldegast> also 2000 is no longer supoported
[02:55] <K-Ryan> I wasn't following the conversation, but aren't most Linux distros free and those that aren't are cheap I thought.
[02:55] <jsubl2> PenguinsRule: when i switched my wife a couple of years ago.. She was already using openoffice.  I was forcing her to mozilla for security/virus reasons.  that only left her gaming and photos  to deal with
[02:55] <Feldegast> K-Ryan this is true, some schools get free M$ software
[02:56] <dogatemycomputer> N6REJ: its beyond me.. i'm sorry..
[02:56] <K-Ryan> No no no, TheSCOTroll said "Linux costs more"
[02:56] <dogatemycomputer> SCO is scum.
[02:56] <PenguinsRule> Is that true?
[02:56] <K-Ryan> I seriously doubt it.
[02:56] <K-Ryan> The only distro that I heard of that costs money is Red Hat.
[02:56] <Feldegast> is what true?
[02:56] <N6REJ> dogatemycomputer: nuts.
[02:56] <TheSCOTroll> SCO invented Linux.
[02:56] <K-Ryan> And I don't think it's that much.
[02:57] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: there are several that do
[02:57] <K-Ryan> But in comparison to Windows, it's miniscule, right?
[02:57] <dogatemycomputer> TheSCOTroll: that code has long since been gone to the dust heap..
[02:57] <Feldegast> linspire, xandros and others are non free iirc
[02:57] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[02:57] <Arwen> K-Ryan, it's not the license cost he's talking about, he's talking about the total cost of ownership - e.g. admins, devs, etc
[02:57] <Kr4t05> What is the best way to burn a Video DVD?
[02:57] <Arwen> not that makes his argument any more right, but..
[02:58] <TheSCOTroll> I think Linux should continue, it just needs to pay for patent rights or it will be crushed by commercial solutions.
[02:58] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05: try k3b
[02:58] <K-Ryan> I'm not quite sure what you mean.
[02:58] <Kr4t05> I've tried DeVeDe, tovid, and an assortment of other tools, and I need a fool-proof way of making it work.
[02:58] <PenguinsRule> TheSCOTroll: You are very insightful.
[02:58] <TheSCOTroll> PenguinsRule: Thank you.
[02:58] <Arwen> TheSCOTroll, why would the kernel team need to pay for patent rights?
[02:58] <K-Ryan> TheSCOTroll Linux will live on, open source will prevail just because it's so much better.
[02:58] <adaptr> he's certainly full of it, yeah
[02:58] <dogatemycomputer> I think the real debate is weather you want to pay Mirosoft for the right to use software that you can't get support on or the right to use less expensive software that requires a bit more support..
[02:58] <K-Ryan> That's my outlook, but please let's not go offtopic.
[02:58] <K-Ryan> Otherwise #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:58] <Admiral_Chicago> TheSCOTroll: PenguinsRule. dogatemycomputer please talk in #kubuntu-offtopic,
[02:58] <TheSCOTroll> Fine.
[02:59] <K-Ryan> Err, what Admiral said.
[02:59] <Kr4t05> hitmanWilly: When I select the VideoDVD option in K3b, it gives me two directories: AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS. I put a pre-encoded MPEG-2 in the VIDEO_TS directory and try to burn. It errors out with some cryptic message that I can't figure out.
[03:00] <Feldegast> does anyone here use dual monitors?
[03:00] <Arwen> Feldegast, sorry, I don't enough cash for that :-P
[03:00] <Kr4t05> Feldegast: Me.
[03:00] <Kr4t05> Feldegast: Need help setting up Xorg?
[03:00] <Arwen> Kr4t05, err, describe the cryptic message
[03:00] <TheSCOTroll> Dual monitors is so 1995.
[03:00] <K-Ryan> Stop trolling.
[03:01] <Feldegast> Kr4t05 have u booted your dual monitor configured linux up inside vmware?
[03:01] <TheSCOTroll> My stock trading setup has four LCD monitors.
[03:01] <TheSCOTroll> Beat that.
[03:01] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05: don't really burn those that much, just know that it does it
[03:01] <Kr4t05> Feldegast: Er... no, can't say I have.
[03:01] <K-Ryan> If you aren't going to help or try, and you don't have any questions...
[03:01] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05: i think you have to convert it over to a vid dvd format
[03:01] <Kr4t05> Arwen: "Could not determine the size of the resulting image file."
[03:01] <Feldegast> i have a dual boot xp/kubuntu and each can boot the other inside vmeware
[03:02] <mobiusNZ> hey guys, ive got an odd problem trying to get my broadcom wireless working on my new lappy, using ndiswrapper. i've installed the drivers fine, but in my /var/log/messages i get "ndiswrapper: request for IRQ 0 failed". anyone have any ideas?
[03:02] <Kr4t05> hitmanWilly: I already used tovid to convert it.
[03:02] <TheSCOTroll> THe Three Stooges
[03:02] <Kr4t05> hitmanWilly: keep up.
[03:02] <Feldegast> i was just wondering hoe dual monitors would go with that
[03:02] <Larry> Where is Moe? :(
[03:02] <Arwen> Kr4t05, ah, hmm.... no idea then.. try burning it as a normal DVD? Video DVD is really just DVD + VIDEO_TS
[03:02] <Feldegast> in the simpsons?
[03:03] <Kr4t05> Arwen: Would it play in a standard player, then?
[03:03] <Arwen> yes\
[03:03] <Curly> We can't continue the crapflood trolling without Moe. :(
[03:03] <K-Ryan> "Larry" really, stop.
[03:03] <adaptr> where's Moe ?
[03:04] <Arwen> rather, who's moe?
[03:04] <adaptr> Arwen the absent Stooge ?
[03:04] <K-Ryan> Good luck Feldegast
[03:04] <Feldegast> ty
[03:05] <Kr4t05> Arwen: It errors out... :/
[03:05] <Arwen> Kr4t05, so I guess it's a problem with your burning software? :-)
[03:09] <Kr4t05> Arwen: KDE crashed... :/
[03:09] <Arwen> ha, lol
[03:09] <Kr4t05> Arwen: Apparently... I should look at this online...
[03:09] <Arwen> time for some bug reports?
[03:11] <Kr4t05> Time to just give up...
[03:11] <Kr4t05> Course... can't take this thing back to Walmart, as a threw out the box...
[03:11] <Kr4t05> It burned two DVDs fine...
[03:11] <Kr4t05> Then, it just stopped working...
[03:13] <ubuntu_> hey can anyone help me
[03:13] <ubuntu_> with a few probs
[03:14] <stratman4300> ubuntu...  sure whats up???
[03:14] <I> well
[03:14] <I> I want
[03:14] <I> *wanted
[03:14] <I> to make a smooth linux
[03:15] <I> install with xp dual boot BUT somehting messed up
[03:15] <I> and now I can only access this live cd
[03:15] <I> and I can't install kubuntu either
[03:15] <stratman4300> did you install XP first or 2nd???
[03:15] <I> it just freezes up
[03:15] <I> first
[03:15] <stratman4300> okay....   when does it lock up for you???
[03:16] <ubuntu_> it says "Press A Key To Reboot" when I try winxp
[03:16] <ubuntu_> and it locks up
[03:16] <ubuntu_> when i goto install kubuntu
[03:17] <stratman4300> does it load xp then say that within XP??   or before XP comes up???
[03:17] <ubuntu_> so I either need XP fixed or kubuntu installed
[03:17] <ubuntu_> before
[03:17] <ubuntu_> after the bios screen
[03:17] <stratman4300> does it say anything about missing files??
[03:17] <ubuntu_> no
[03:17] <ubuntu_> I think
[03:18] <ubuntu_> the nt boot files
[03:18] <ubuntu_> are gone
[03:18] <ubuntu_> and I don't have an xp cd to use the recovery console
[03:18] <stratman4300> sounds like your xp install is screwy....   personally i would re-install it
[03:18] <stratman4300> hmmm
[03:18] <ubuntu_> well
[03:18] <ubuntu_> I'd like to get some data off first
[03:18] <ubuntu_> {we all know xp is screwy}
[03:18] <stratman4300> okay...   what happens when you install kubuntu???
[03:19] <stratman4300> LOL...  yes we do
[03:19] <ubuntu_> it won't mount properly in the live cd
[03:19] <ubuntu_> it locks up
[03:19] <ubuntu_> when i try to install
[03:19] <stratman4300> the xp drive won't mount??
[03:19] <ubuntu_> well it says
[03:19] <Arwen> ubuntu_, eh? the partition won't mount?
[03:19] <ubuntu_> Read only; I used mount -t ntfs dev/hda5/ /mnt
[03:20] <ubuntu_> hda 5 is my windows partion with my data
[03:20] <ubuntu_> I HATE M$.......the other 3 times it happened I had mbr/hdd backups
[03:20] <_christoph_> ubuntu_, you must repartition your drive to install kubuntu
[03:20] <stratman4300> hmmm...   i think you have to be the root user to mount to /mnt....  did you try it with the sudo command???
[03:20] <ubuntu_> i did
[03:21] <ubuntu_> christoph: well it locks up when I install
[03:21] <stratman4300> i would try creating a seperate folder in /mnt the try to mount it in /mnt/(yournewfolderhere)
[03:21] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: try mounting in a subdir of mnt, ie /mnt/hda5 or some such
[03:22] <ubuntu_> so i make a new folder through konqueror or similar
[03:22] <ubuntu_> ok, give me a sec
[03:22] <stratman4300> you could even do it with the command line
[03:22] <Arwen> ubuntu_, mkdir /mnt/hda5
[03:22] <stratman4300> yup
[03:22] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: sure, or mkdir from cli
[03:22] <roadfish> my computer keeps rebooting even though I select "Turn Off" rather than "Restart". any idea what might be the problem?
[03:23] <ubuntu_> ..... {} /dev/hda5 already mounted or /mnt/hda5 busy
[03:24] <_christoph_> more /etc/mtab
[03:24] <stratman4300> roadfish....   what version of kubuntu are you running???
[03:24] <ubuntu_> this what u want ?
[03:24] <ubuntu_> one sec
[03:24] <ubuntu_> proc /proc proc rw 0 0
[03:25] <ubuntu_> sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
[03:25] <ubuntu_> tmpfs /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile tmpfs rw,mode=0755 0 0
[03:25] <ubuntu_> tmpfs /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile tmpfs rw,mode=0755 0 0
[03:25] <ubuntu_> /dev/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb none rw,bind 0 0
[03:25] <ubuntu_> fusectl /sys/fs/fuse/connections fusectl rw 0 0
[03:25] <ubuntu_> varrun /var/run tmpfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755 0 0
[03:25] <ubuntu_> varlock /var/lock tmpfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777 0 0
[03:25] <ubuntu_> udev /dev tmpfs rw,mode=0755 0 0
[03:25] <ubuntu_> devshm /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
[03:25] <ubuntu_> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
[03:25] <ubuntu_> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev 0 0
[03:25] <_christoph_> eek
[03:25] <ubuntu_> ?
[03:25] <hitmanWilly> !paste | ubuntu_
[03:25] <ubotu> ubuntu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:25] <_christoph_> just look yourself if /dev/hda5 really IS mounted
[03:26] <roadfish> stratman4300: 7.04 Feisty Fawn
[03:26] <ubuntu_> nothing is
[03:27] <ubuntu_> nothing is mounted...
[03:27] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: as in NOTHING nothing? that's not possible...
[03:28] <dextrone> it says in bash mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /mnt/hda5 busy
[03:28] <dextrone> and I don't see a thing
[03:28] <Arwen> ugh, help vampire... ah well
[03:28] <dextrone> I DIDN'T EVEN TRY TO MOUNT BEFORE
[03:28] <dextrone> AS IN
[03:29] <Skrot-> !caps
[03:29] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:29] <dextrone> since I restarted the live cd
[03:29] <dextrone> sorry
[03:31] <DaveMora> Hello everyone
[03:31] <dextrone> so is there anything I can do
[03:31] <DaveMora> Does anyone have experience with biometric with ubuntu ?
[03:32] <roadfish> well, I found a workaround to my computer continuously rebooting even after "Turn Off" was select ... I force a "shutdown now" from konsole.
[03:35] <ubuntu_> can anyone help?
[04:03] <Ireclan> How do I install Win32 codecs for Kaffeine?
[04:04] <_christoph_> I use (K)MPlayer with w32codecs-all
[04:05] <Jucato> !w32codecs | Ireclan
[04:05] <ubotu> Ireclan: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:07] <Ireclan> I have a debian file called "w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb"....How about that? Does THAT get me anywhere?
[04:07] <M_42> does anyone know how to get your backlight on your lcd to turn off?
[04:08] <_christoph_> yes, that's it. But I dont know if Kaffeine can use it.
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> M_42: DOES YOUR LAPPY HAVE A HARDWARE SWITCH FOR THAT?
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> sorry.. caps
[04:09] <Ireclan> Anyone know if Kaffeine can use "w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb"?
[04:09] <M_42> :C
[04:09] <M_42> not a lappy
[04:09] <M_42> just a standard 17" lcd
[04:09] <M_42> :C
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> M_42: "DPMS"
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> I don't hink you can give the command yourself.
[04:13] <M_42> I checked my xorg.conf and my acpi-settings files
[04:13] <M_42> they seem ok
[04:14] <Ireclan> Anyone know where I can get help with Kaffeine?
[04:14] <_christoph_> Ireclan, maybe on #kde
[04:14] <Jucato> Ireclan: yes it can
[04:15] <Kr4t05> Has anyone else mastered the secrets to burning DVDs with k3b?
[04:15] <Jucato> any w32codec will do
[04:15] <Ireclan> Jucato: It's a .deb...
[04:15] <Jucato> yes
[04:15] <Ireclan> Jucato: I can't install it, it gives me errors...
[04:16] <Jucato> what errors?
[04:16] <Jucato> and how are you installing it?
[04:16] <Ireclan> Jucato: I'm installing it by right-click...
[04:17] <Jucato> Ireclan: and what errors do you get?
[04:17] <Jucato> (if it's too many, pastebin it)
[04:18] <Ireclan> Jucato: The path is incorrect...
[04:18] <Ireclan> ...
[04:18] <Ireclan> Jucato: I THINK I just figured out what's wrong...
[04:18] <M_42> anyone know how to force a lcd monitor to turn its backlight off?
[04:18] <Arwen> M_42, hit the power key
[04:19] <Ireclan> Jucato: How do I properly install .debs via command line???
[04:19] <HymnToLife> Ireclan, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[04:19] <Gabz> anyone here used ktorrents schedule bandwidth function ?
[04:19] <Jucato> Ireclan: are you sure you are doing right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[04:20] <Arwen> Gabz, nope, I'm an azureus user :-)
[04:20] <Arwen> besides, I want my torrents to always be eating max bandwidth anyway
[04:20] <Ireclan> Jucato: Yep. And the person who programmed the function made an idiotic mistake...It can't handle files with spaces in them...
[04:20] <Kr4t05> Gabz: I have, but I stopped after a while...
[04:20] <Arwen> Ireclan, dpkg -i "filename"
[04:21] <Kr4t05> My schedule is too variable for it.
[04:21] <Arwen> don't forget the quotes
[04:21] <Jucato> don't forget sudo as well
[04:21] <Jucato> Ireclan: sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>
[04:21] <Arwen> sudo ain't part of the command :-)
[04:22] <Jucato> Ireclan: use tab completion so that you won't have to manually enter the whole file name
[04:22] <Jucato> Arwen: and without sudo, the command is useless
[04:22] <Arwen> Jucato, not true - what if you had a root shell?
[04:22] <Jucato> Arwen: "what if", we are in Kubuntu, that's not the normal case
[04:22] <Gabz> Kr4t05: you don't know how to limit the downloads below 1 do you ?
[04:22] <Arwen> "apps -> system tools -> root konsole"
[04:22] <Arwen> lies
[04:23] <Jucato> that menu entry doesn't exist by default either
[04:23] <Jucato> (we don't even have an Apps/Applications menu)
[04:23] <Arwen> pssh, sucks to be you
[04:25] <Jucato> !coc | Arwen
[04:25] <ubotu> Arwen: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:25] <Arwen> ah cmon.... lame
[04:25] <Ireclan> ANYWAY...
[04:25] <Ireclan> It worked...
[04:26] <Jucato> Ireclan: worked now?
[04:26] <Jucato> good
[04:26] <M_42> !cock
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <Arwen> Ireclan, hehe
[04:26] <M_42> lol
[04:26] <M_42> sry
[04:26] <Arwen> !fsck
[04:26] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[04:26] <Arwen> :-)
[04:26] <Jucato> M_42: heh. just don't do it agan ;)
[04:26] <Ireclan> Jucato: And I DO believe that's a bug...
[04:27] <Ireclan> Jucato: You reckon it's been fixed for Feisty?
[04:27] <M_42> anyone know what would cause power management functions for an lcd monitor not to work at all
[04:27] <M_42> I tried /etc/acpi/screenblank.sh and it does nothing
[04:27] <Jucato> Ireclan: I'm not sure anyone actually reported it. I'll ask. but hopefully next release we already have a full graphical DEB installer (KDE port of gdebi)
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: its being worked on for SoC
[04:38] <LincKanabico> hi everybody how do i enable root login in kubuntu feasty?
[04:38] <Jucato> !sudo | LincKanabico
[04:38] <ubotu> LincKanabico: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:38] <Jucato> (the page in that link has instructions)
[04:38] <Jucato> thanks for confirming Admiral_Chicago
[04:39] <LincKanabico> thanks
[04:40] <cyt> !ntfs-3g
[04:40] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:41] <LincKanabico> this helps buti like to login to kde as root from the login prompt
[04:52] <servidoruno> buenas noches
[04:53] <servidoruno> espero su colaboracion con el siguente tema:
[04:53] <Ireclan> Amerok is being a F*cktard.
[04:53] <servidoruno> tengo problemas para compartir impresoras desde kubuntu.
[04:53] <Ireclan> It won't install MP3 support.
[04:54] <servidoruno> primero el administrador de impresoras no me aceptaba mis pasword y claves
[04:54] <Ireclan> Jucato or someone, please help.
[04:54] <servidoruno> luego agregue el usuario cupsys a shadow
[04:54] <jsubl2> english
[04:55] <servidoruno> y aun asi me sigue negando mis claves y accesos y no me deja configurar el servidor de impresion cups,
[04:55] <servidoruno> como podria corregir este lio?
[04:55] <Ireclan> servidoruno: No hablo espanol. Los siento.
[04:55] <servidoruno> alguen a podido resolver esto
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> !es
[04:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:55] <servidoruno> thank
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> Ireclan: what release?
[04:56] <Ireclan> Admiral_Chicago: Edgy.
[04:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Ireclan: thats a know bug. Pleaes enable Multiverse and install libxine-extracodecs
[04:57] <Ireclan> Admiral_Chicago: What plugin do I need. I'll do a manual install if necessary.
[04:57] <Admiral_Chicago> !multiverse
[04:57] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:57] <Ireclan> *?
[04:57] <Admiral_Chicago> !mp3 | Ireclan
[04:57] <ubotu> Ireclan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:57] <Admiral_Chicago> that might also help
[04:59] <servidoruno> some body know how i can fix the cups server, when I change the cupsys user to shadow?
[04:59] <servidoruno> please !!!
[05:02] <servidoruno> somebody know?
[05:03] <Ireclan> servidoruno: Patience. Someone might help evuntually.
[05:03] <Ireclan> *eventually
[05:04] <Ireclan> Admiral_Chicago: Could you tell me how to enable multiverse- my net connection's being retarded...
[05:04] <servidoruno> ok   thank you
[05:04] <Feldegast> in KDE, how do you tell the desktop menu to left align?
[05:07] <Kr4t05> This is weird... The drive is rated for 16x burning on DVDs, the media is rated for 16x burning, DMA is enabled and the drive is connected properly... However, K3b doesn't peak over 3x when burning...
[05:09] <dr_willis> could be the hd isent able to send the info any faster...
[05:09] <dr_willis> or somthing else is telling it to slow down.
[05:09] <flaccid> guess there is a bottleneck there unless 16x is just a max, not a realistic speed
[05:10] <dr_willis> flaccid,  yea tey always hype those #'s dont they
[05:11] <Ireclan> Anyone care to help me with getting universe and multiverse repositories working?
[05:11] <crimsun> Ireclan: for which Ubuntu release?
[05:11] <flaccid> yeah they do, but i though with the burning speeds it was meant to be, its the read speed that is max eg. 52X is absolute max , but yeah maybe the write speeds are max as well
[05:12] <Ireclan> crimsun Edgy.
[05:12] <flaccid> !repos
[05:12] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:12] <Feldegast> nobody knows how to left align the desktop menu??
[05:12] <crimsun> Ireclan: see the URL that the bot just posted.
[05:12] <flaccid> Feldegast: im not sure what you mean
[05:12] <flaccid> kmenu?
[05:12] <Ireclan> flaccid: Already tried that...Not working....
[05:13] <Kr4t05> flaccid: Maybe... Can't see any bottlenecks... 2.26GHz Intel Celeron D, 1GB RAM DDR400, and a WD 160GB IDE
[05:13] <flaccid> Ireclan: tried what?
[05:13] <Feldegast> in kde you can enable the "desktop menu" which puts a menu at the top of the screen
[05:13] <flaccid> Feldegast: oh how do you do that?
[05:13] <Ireclan> flaccid: the procedure on that page.
[05:14] <flaccid> Ireclan: you must be doing something wrong
[05:14] <Kr4t05> It just seems that 2.7x is a pretty big difference from 16x.
[05:14] <Feldegast> right click desktop -> configure Desktop > behaviour
[05:14] <winston> uptime
[05:14] <Kr4t05> K3b even says it will burn at 16x, but doesn't deliver...
[05:14] <winston> Uptime: 1 hours and 5 minutes
[05:14] <flaccid> Feldegast: thanks. i can't test atm, if no luck here, #kde will advise
[05:15] <flaccid> Kr4t05: thats because its hardware dependent
[05:15] <winston> how can i use my webcam on kopete? i see it working in preferences, but i see no place in kopete to use it.
[05:15] <flaccid> !webcam
[05:15] <Feldegast> in 6.10 the desktop menu was left aligned, when i upgraded to 7.04 it bekame sort of centered
[05:15] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:15] <Admiral_Chicago> Ireclan: sorry I'm away
[05:15] <Feldegast> k
[05:15] <flaccid> webcam support is very bad on *nix due to no standard protocol
[05:15] <mrwinston> those websites dont answer my question
[05:15] <Kr4t05> flaccid: Don't forget the gspca drivers.
[05:15] <flaccid> yeah but i just did...
[05:15] <mrwinston> i didnt say my webcam doesnt work
[05:15] <mrwinston> it does
[05:16] <flaccid> Kr4t05: depends what webcam you have
[05:16] <mrwinston> where is the option to use my webcam in kopete?
[05:16] <flaccid> mrwinston: settings - configure - devices
[05:16] <Kr4t05> mrwinston: The only protocol that supports video in kopete is Yahoo. AIM and MSN don't have support for it, yet.
[05:17] <flaccid> thats funny msn webcam works fine for me in kopete
[05:17] <Kr4t05> Oh, yeah, it does. Forgot. :P
[05:17] <dr_willis> heh i was just wondering why my sound wasent working.. then resized i was on my widnows box using XDMCP and XMING to get an xdispley on it. :)
[05:17] <mrwinston> Kr4t05: id use amsn if kopete didnt support the msn protocol
[05:17] <Kr4t05> Right...
[05:17] <Kr4t05> As for AIM, dunno what to tell you... I'm not sure if gaim/pidgin supports video, yet.
[05:19] <Kr4t05> Hrm... Maybe this drive is like those other goofy ones where I need to hold in the eject button after loading a disc in order to get the higher speeds.
[05:19] <flaccid> lol
[05:19] <Kr4t05> flaccid: I had a Samsung like that, I think...
[05:20] <flaccid> hehe
[05:26] <strabes> why are the backup folders created by sbackup only readable by root? How can I change this?
[05:29] <flaccid> !perms
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about perms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <flaccid> !chmod
[05:29] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[05:34] <dsmith_> perms?
[05:34] <dsmith_> lol
[05:35] <Ahmuck> !dvd
[05:35] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:36] <Ahmuck> !restricted
[05:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:50] <raylu> Can someone help me with a Ubuntu install?
[05:51] <raylu> actually, it gave me the same error as Kubuntu
[05:52] <Feldegast> in kde you can enable the "desktop menu" which puts a menu at the top of the screen, right click desktop -> configure Desktop > behaviour, in kubuntu 6.10 it was left aligned, in 7.04 it is now "sort of" centered, any way to fix this?
[05:54] <bonbonthejon> raylu: whats the error
[05:57] <dsmith_> anyone know about enabling SD cards?
[05:58] <bonbonthejon> !question | dsmith_
[05:58] <ubotu> dsmith_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:58] <dsmith_> that was my question.. :P
[05:58] <bonbonthejon> somewhat, whats the problem
[05:59] <dsmith_> revise: Does SD cards work in Ubuntu?
[05:59] <spawn57> you mean encrypted ones?
[05:59] <bonbonthejon> dsmith_: I have a SD card reader, it works fine
[05:59] <dsmith_> no just vanilla ones
[05:59] <spawn57> oh
[05:59] <dsmith_> mine is built into my laptop
[05:59] <spawn57> just plug it into the card reader
[05:59] <bonbonthejon> dsmith_: probably
[05:59] <spawn57> and an icon will pop up on your desktop
[05:59] <dsmith_> do I need to edit fstab?
[05:59] <spawn57> naw
[06:00] <spawn57> hal and pmount will take care of it
[06:00] <bonbonthejon> dsmith_: it will be like a cd, it will show an icon
[06:00] <dsmith_> nah, no icons
[06:00] <spawn57> oh
[06:00] <dsmith_> hmmm
[06:00] <dsmith_> my usb works fine
[06:00] <dsmith_> so does the cd
[06:00] <spawn57> open up a console and type dmesg
[06:00] <dsmith_> one sec
[06:01] <dsmith_> !pastebin
[06:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:01] <dsmith_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20444/
[06:02] <spawn57> one sec
[06:02] <dsmith_> im reading it as well
[06:02] <spawn57> yeah
[06:02] <spawn57> the last few lines are all you need to look at
[06:03] <spawn57> your sd card isn't being detected
[06:03] <spawn57> can you unplug and plug in the usb card reader again?
[06:03] <dsmith_> one min
[06:04] <dsmith_> showing the same
[06:04] <dsmith_> not seeing it
[06:04] <spawn57> nothing detected?
[06:04] <dsmith_> nothing
[06:04] <spawn57> it works in windows right?
[06:04] <bonbonthejon> dsmith_: you have a new HP?
[06:05] <dsmith_> 2002
[06:05] <dsmith_> i believe
[06:05] <dsmith_> I'd have to look at the bios
[06:05] <spawn57> bonbonthejon: are they ide card readers?
[06:06] <bonbonthejon> spawn57: pci, at least lspci lists it
[06:06] <dsmith_> http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=1556
[06:06] <spawn57> a pci card reader?
[06:07] <spawn57> dsmith_: didja try that module
[06:07] <dsmith_> im about to
[06:09] <t3hfr3ak> i need help setting up my TV connected to my computer VIA SVIDEO
[06:09] <t3hfr3ak> running ubuntu 7.04
[06:10] <t3hfr3ak> anyone?
[06:11] <bonbonthejon> t3hfr3ak: you'd probably be better off searching on google
[06:11] <t3hfr3ak> i did... and the tut i found didnt work
[06:12] <arun> hey, people.. does any one use koffice in here?
[06:12] <dsmith_> i dont
[06:12] <t3hfr3ak> arun; that open office correect?
[06:12] <arun> no, open office and koffice are different
[06:12] <dsmith_> spawn57: that module change did not work
[06:12] <dsmith_> :(
[06:12] <spawn57> dang
[06:13] <spawn57> i would stay and help, but I'm bout to meet up with friends now man
[06:13] <arun> OpenOffice has it's own ugly font rendering which I really hate.. my fonts look OS X-sexy for all other apps
[06:13] <arun> and look so crappy in openoffice
[06:13] <spawn57> i'll try looking into it, drop me an e-mail on your hardware, do lspci and paste me the output.
[06:13] <dsmith_> lspci shows it
[06:14] <spawn57> addy is spawn57@yahoo.com
[06:14] <spawn57> i'll get back to you later tonight
[06:14] <dsmith_> k
[06:14] <herzi> ol!
[06:15] <t3hfr3ak> herzi; you know anything about setting up SVIDEO with 7.04?
[06:15] <bonbonthejon> !es | herzi
[06:15] <ubotu> herzi: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:16] <herzi> desculpe jo no sabia que eras en espaol
[06:16] <dsmith_> !help
[06:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:16] <dsmith_> hmmm..
[06:16] <herzi> dsmith, what is u problem?
[06:17] <dsmith_> I was teating my connection, http access is down but irc works fine
[06:17] <dsmith_> weird
[06:17] <dsmith_> *testing
[06:17] <arun> i was like teating? err...
[06:17] <t3hfr3ak> drsmith_: restart router
[06:17] <dsmith_> lol
[06:17] <herzi> good! what u from?
[06:17] <dsmith_> I know about restarting router
[06:17] <dsmith_> :)
[06:19] <nickname> hello!
[06:20] <arun> hey lobster
[06:21] <dsmith_> brb
[06:22] <arun> seriously, no one uses koffice here?
[06:22] <bs_as> hola
[06:22] <bs_as> como estan?
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> !es | bs_as
[06:23] <ubotu> bs_as: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:27] <lobster> I dont use koffice, but I might be able to help.
[06:27] <lobster> anyone familiar with samba?
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> lobster: a little, what's up?
[06:29] <lobster> I want to mount my cd drives over the network; if I mount /media/cdrom0 will it register on my network?
[06:29] <lobster> I have two cds mounted now, but cdrom0 and cdrom1 are empty?
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> lobster: no, you have to set it up as a samba share
[06:29] <pingveno> arun: I use koffice sometimes
[06:30] <pingveno> It's general quicker than OpenOffice
[06:30] <lobster> hitmanwilly: thats what I mean.  I set them up as shared folders in systemsettings, sharing
[06:30] <pingveno> Unfortunately, it doesn't have writing to .doc files :(
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> lobster: it won't let you connect? hmmm.....
[06:31] <lobster> hitmanwilly: will that do it, though? there is nothing in the cdrom files, and I can see the mounted cds under their names....
[06:31] <kalorin_> heh
[06:31] <kalorin_> that's so funny
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> lobster: most of my experience goes the other way, but let me see
[06:31] <kalorin_> runnin x11vnc and trying to connect to my box at work
[06:31] <kalorin_> the screen saver is taking so much to redraw I can't unlock it
[06:31] <pingveno> I'm trying to figure out a problem I'm having with Amarok. It's not playing .aiff files for some reason
[06:31] <kalorin_> had to ssh to it and kill it manually
[06:32] <Goontz> asdf
[06:32] <pingveno> It's something to do with the xine engine, I think
[06:32] <Goontz> jkl;
[06:33] <arun> pingveno: does openoffice on your computer also render fonts in its own ugly way?
[06:33] <bryan> Hey everyone, Im sure this is ANNOYing, but, does anyone have a few seconds to help out someone who just installed Kubuntu on Macbook?
[06:33] <bryan> just having a few probs :)
[06:34] <pingveno> arun: no
[06:34] <arun> ah
[06:34] <pingveno> Well, it's a bit subjective
[06:34] <pingveno> I suppose the antialiasing could be taken as being too harsh
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> lobster: all the links i can fseem to find are for mounting windows shares under nix, hmmm
[06:36] <lobster> yeah, me too
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> lobster: and i haven't run a windows box for a while :)
[06:38] <kalorin_> now how come the remote desktop vnc client can't deal with turning remote 32bit color to 8bit local color
[06:38] <kalorin_> so I don' thave to sit here for EVERY when it's redrawing things
[06:38] <pingveno> I get the error "filename.aff: Error while parsing header" when I run ffmpeg on an aiff file, even though the file runs perfectly through sox
[06:39] <pingveno> oops, filename.aiff
[06:39] <pingveno> I think that's giving me problems with amarok
[06:39] <debian> ola alguem conhece algum site de matematica?
[06:39] <lobster> hmm.  It doesn't seem to want to accept my password?
[06:40] <debian> tem algum portugues aqui?
[06:40] <debian> que merda de lugar
[06:40] <debian> quit
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> lobster: you may want to setup a seperate account just for remote access, put it in the group that owns the cdrom drive, and use that...i don't know if ubu allows remote access for admin accounts remotely
[06:44] <arun> openoffice renders my fonts like windows 95, exactly like that, while the fonts on everything are rendered really nicely, OSX style
[06:45] <arun> I had this problem with Dapper as well, which got fixed in Edgy
[06:45] <pingveno> Would a screenshot show the problem?
[06:45] <arun> now it's back to the same old thing, I'm looking it up online, apparently it's a bug in openoffice
[06:45] <arun> yeah, sure hold on
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> anyway, got to go...work tomorrow :(
[06:46] <redshadowhero> so, how would one use kubuntu to interact on a network with windows computers?
[06:46] <redshadowhero> I have no idea.
[06:46] <arun> http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/382/snapshotoorp9.png
[06:46] <lobster> redshadow: that is what I am trying to do.
[06:47] <redshadowhero> Ah.
[06:47] <redshadowhero> Ha ha.
[06:47] <redshadowhero> I'm used to the OSX way of doing it: a nice shortcut in finder.
[06:47] <lobster> I just found out how, with samba
[06:47] <redshadowhero> Please, enlighten me.
[06:48] <dsmith_> does anyone use Keep backup?
[06:48] <arun> pingveno: screenshot in openoffice -- http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/382/snapshotoorp9.png  |  screenshot in koffice of pretty much the same text and font -- http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2452/snapshotkowh3.png
[06:49] <arun> pingveno: see how the fonts in the menus are rendered as well
[06:49] <pingveno> I have the same font rendering, I think
[06:49] <lobster> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[06:49] <lobster> see above redshadowhero
[06:49] <arun> do you see the massive difference
[06:50] <Jake08> anyone here able to help my through a difficult install of Kubuntu?
[06:50] <pingveno> Yeah
[06:50] <lobster> basically apt install samba, set up share folders and create share users
[06:50] <redshadowhero> ah, thank you.
[06:50] <dsmith_> jake08: whats wrong
[06:50] <Jake08> I am getting /bin/sh: can'
[06:50] <pingveno> arun: I see what you mean by ugly rendering, but I don't think that's an actual bug
[06:50] <Jake08> t access tty; job control turned off
[06:50] <Jake08> sorry for the two lines... well now three
[06:50] <arun> pingveno: what do you think that is
[06:51] <dsmith_> hmmm, never saw that one before
[06:51] <Jake08> Yeah not on the forums either :(
[06:51] <pingveno> arun: I'm sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean
[06:51] <Jake08> getting a prompt before the error...
[06:52] <Jake08> BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian) 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) built-in shell (ash)
[06:52] <dsmith_> you know what
[06:52] <Jake08> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands
[06:52] <dsmith_> I had that dern busybox thingy once before
[06:52] <dsmith_> I had to do a complete reinstall
[06:52] <dsmith_> is it a empty drive?
[06:52] <Jake08> Yeah this is not my first full install
[06:53] <Jake08> I went ahead and let it take over the full drive yeah
[06:53] <arun> pingveno: you said that's not a bug, how so?
[06:53] <dsmith_> so this is a new driver formatted and such
[06:53] <dsmith_> but kubuntu wont start>
[06:53] <dsmith_> ?
[06:53] <pingveno> arun: Well, I think it's not an actual bug, just an engine that doesn't produce particularly nice rendering
[06:53] <felix> hello!
[06:53] <Jake08> yeah, I mean not totally new it had vista home basic on it before
[06:53] <felix> hello jake
[06:54] <felix> hello dsmith
[06:54] <Jake08> hey felix..
[06:54] <dsmith_> did you get to format it?
[06:54] <pingveno> arun: The Ubuntu bug I saw had really, really ugly rendering
[06:54] <dsmith_> hello felix
[06:54] <Jake08> yes i did
[06:54] <dsmith_> ok..
[06:54] <dsmith_> hmmmm
[06:54] <felix> i'm a newbie here at kubuntu
[06:54] <dsmith_> welcome!
[06:54] <felix> thanks jake and dsmith for your warm welcome
[06:54] <dsmith_> Jake08: I never did figure that one out
[06:54] <dsmith_> i was perplaxed and no one could seem to help
[06:54] <felix> i'm from philippines
[06:55] <dsmith_> USA
[06:55] <arun> pingveno: the font rendering isn't that ugly for everyone, that's the thing
[06:55] <Jake08> well I know it is backwards from normal, I started with the Alternate CD this time because of trouble in the past, I just finished the regular disc should I try it?
[06:55] <arun> on some PCs it shows nice rendering
[06:55] <pingveno> arun: huh
[06:55] <pingveno> arun: interesting
[06:55] <dsmith_> try another disc this time and see if that works
[06:55] <dsmith_> I have had a few bad images myself before
[06:56] <dsmith_> or they burned poor
[06:56] <pingveno> arun: yeah, I agree. I just took a second look at the rendering on my copy and I suppose it does have problems
[06:56] <Jake08> Yeah I would worry about miss downloads but I am bittorrenting it which was recommended because of the on the fly crc checking
[06:56] <pingveno> The l's and the d's being too close together
[06:56] <Jake08> and no the burner is fine I use it pretty frequently with no troubles
[06:56] <dsmith_> ok...
[06:56] <dsmith_> crc checking is nice
[06:56] <dsmith_> :)
[06:56] <Jake08> Yeah
[06:57] <arun> pingveno: i looked up some stuff about it on google, seems like openoffice keeps having this problem for some versions
[06:57] <arun> weird
[06:57] <pingveno> yeah
[06:57] <pingveno> agreement
[06:57] <arun> well, i guess i'll stick to using kword or google docs
[06:57] <pingveno> *shrug*
[06:57] <Jake08> much better than waiting 20 minutes for the download to find out that it was a bad downloaded
[06:57] <dsmith_> openoffice is nice
[06:57] <dsmith_> yea
[06:57] <zeekstarr> how do i burn a video dvd from an avi? I've tried with k3b but I'm messing it up somehow
[06:57] <pingveno> kword's definitely a good program
[06:57] <felix> where can download kword?
[06:57] <pingveno> apt-get install kword
[06:57] <arun> felix: just look for kword in adept
[06:57] <dsmith_> kubuntu should already have it
[06:57] <arun> and install it
[06:57] <arun> dsmith_: screenshot in openoffice -- http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/382/snapshotoorp9.png  |  screenshot in koffice of pretty much the same text and font -- http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2452/snapshotkowh3.png
[06:59] <pingveno> K Menu > Office > KWord (Word Processing)
[06:59] <felix> arun, where is adept located...sorry newbie here
[06:59] <dsmith_> felix: Follow pingveno
[06:59] <arun> felix: kmenu > system > adept manager
[06:59] <arun> you can install and upgrade anything from here, hassle-free
[06:59] <dsmith_> Kubuntu has kword already installed
[06:59] <arun> dsmith_: mine didn't come with kword
[06:59] <dsmith_> well not from IRC, but from konsole
[07:00] <levi_> How would I fix broken video codecs?
[07:00] <dsmith_> oh well then he can install it
[07:00] <felix> i only have here is openoffice.org
[07:00] <dsmith_> arun: I thought kde included kword?
[07:00] <levi_> you should have Kate
[07:00] <felix> i did not see kword
[07:00] <dsmith_> felix: sudo apt-get install kword
[07:00] <arun> dsmith_: no, apparently in kubuntu, you have to install koffice separately
[07:00] <felix> thanks arun
[07:00] <Jucato> dsmith_: Kubuntu doesn't by default
[07:00] <dsmith_> hmmmm ok
[07:01] <Jucato> dsmith_: also, KDE doesn't really install KOffice by default either
[07:01] <arun> felix: search for 'kword' or 'koffice' in adept
[07:01] <arun> you will see a list of results
[07:01] <dsmith_> then perhaps its
[07:01] <dsmith_> felix: sudo apt-get install koffice
[07:01] <felix> ok
[07:01] <zeekstarr> avi to video dvd?
[07:02] <dsmith_> felix: I was a beginning Linux user a year ago, there are tons of ppl here to help you
[07:02] <arun> ok, i gotta get some breakfast, see you guys in a bit
[07:02] <dsmith_> save some bacon
[07:02] <levi_> No, as in Videos will no longer play unles I use Opengl which is choppy and laggy.
[07:03] <felix> guys, this message appears: Package koffice is not available,
[07:03] <felix> but is referred to by another package.
[07:04] <felix> This may mean that the package is missing,
[07:04] <felix> has been obsoleted, or
[07:04] <Jucato> !pastebin
[07:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:04] <felix> is only available from another source
[07:05] <levi_> Question
[07:05] <levi_> How would I get Kubuntu 6 to ICS
[07:05] <levi_> and file share?
[07:06] <felix> Package koffice has no installation candidate
[07:07] <nimble> try sudo apt-get update
[07:08] <omar> que tal
[07:08] <omar> saludos a todas las chicas guapas
[07:10] <pingveno> !es | bs_as
[07:10] <ubotu> bs_as: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:11] <pingveno> I think that's right notice :/
[07:12] <pingveno> I just love Babel Fish's translation of the es message
[07:12] <pingveno> "If it looks for aid in Spanish please between in the channels # ubuntu-is, # kubuntu-is or # edubuntu-is, will obtain but aid there."
[07:15] <Sleepy_Coder> lol, pingveno
[07:15] <pingveno> So, does anyone have any clue what's happening with the aiff issue?
[07:15] <dsmith_> lol
[07:16] <pingveno> amarok not being able to open aiff files
[07:19] <arun> hi
[07:20] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[07:21] <felix> thanks nimble
[07:21] <felix> i would like to help you hendaus but i'm just a newbie at linux
[07:21] <felix> thanks dsmith
[07:22] <hendaus> felix thanx, is there an amule if i want to copy my link as friend and send it to my friends to add me?
[07:23] <felix> sorry hendaus, i don't know the answer.
[07:23] <felix> you may want to try google for that
[07:23] <hendaus> felix,  dont worry , maybe some one use amule and they could help me :)
[07:25] <felix> yeah, hendaus. have a good day then
[07:25] <felix> hope you can find the answers to your questions and worries
[07:25] <felix> need to go..
[07:25] <felix> bye..
[07:28] <Angelin> Hello World I need some help
[07:28] <Angelin> is there someone here who's able to help me ? ^^
[07:31] <TuTuFF> morn
[07:32] <TuTuFF> whassup Angelin?
[07:33] <Angelin> hum I would like to shut down grub (sorry if the words aren't very good employed but I'm French :p)
[07:36] <max> isnt there a terminal command to change all parts of the sources.list that say edgy to feisty?
[07:37] <Angelin> mmh I don't think so :p
[07:37] <Angelin> So TuTuFF can you help me ?
[07:37] <nimble> you mean just a find and replace?
[07:37] <max> yes
[07:37] <Angelin> oooooh
[07:37] <Angelin> i didn't understand that max sorry
[07:37] <max> no prob
[07:39] <max> so does anyone know it?
[07:41] <nimble> you could probably make one pretty fast if it needs to be only a terminal command
[07:41] <max> !update
[07:41] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[07:42] <nimble> is there a reason you cant just open it in a text editor and find and replace from there?
[07:42] <max>   sudo sed -e 's/\sedgy/ feisty/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:42] <max> there it is
[07:43] <max> cause thats alot easier
[07:43] <Jucato> vim, then, :%s/edgy/feisty/g ?
[07:44] <robotgeek> why aren't we using the nice dist-upgrade tool?
[07:44] <unix_infidel> anyone here running ubuntu on a Dell D620?
[07:44] <max> because i think its easier in the term
[07:45] <Jucato> the dist-upgrade wouldn't even require you to edit anything...
[07:45] <Jucato> (when it works...)
[07:45] <robotgeek> ++
[07:45] <max> i didnt edit anything
[07:45] <acemo> Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1/./Packages.gz  404 Not Found anyone else is unable to fetch the kde4 packages?
[07:45] <max> i just did "sudo sed -e 's/\sedgy/ feisty/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list " and now im donig a dist-upgrade
[07:45] <nixternal> acemo: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1 feisty main
[07:45] <nixternal> put that in your sources.list
[07:46] <nixternal> acemo: just so you know, the uploads aren't complete. so you won't get to play with any of the kde-extras at all. that is just a base kde4 buildout
[07:46] <max> kde4 is in alpha right now right?
[07:46] <Jucato> max: the advantage of the dist-upgrade tool is that 1) it makes sure you have the necessary packages to properly dist-upgrade (stuff like kubuntu-desktop) and 2) it disables all other repositories that may conflict with the upgrade
[07:46] <nixternal> max: correct
[07:46] <Jucato> max: yep
[07:47] <acemo> nixternal: tnx, u think i should wait till the uploads are complete? how long should that take?
[07:47] <max> Jucato: acctually this is Xubuntu, and im uninstalling the xubuntu-desktop to get the ubuntustudio-desktop and all its stuff
[07:47] <Jucato> um... and let me guess, no one is answering you in #xubuntu ?
[07:47] <max> no
[07:47] <max> when i connected to konversation it went here
[07:48] <Jucato> ah I see
[07:48] <Jucato> the guys over at #xubuntu might know better on how to dist-upgrade
[07:48] <max> and since all the *buntus are basically the same it dosnt really matter
[07:48] <Jucato> well, yes *and* no
[07:48] <nixternal> acemo: there is no telling seeing as the man uptop with the @ is at UDS or in transit back home
[07:49] <nixternal> I have half of the extra modules built, but amd64 only right now
[07:49] <max> imy main hd is kubuntu, i originally installed dapper and ive always done manual upgrades with it, no problems yet
[07:49] <Jucato> you have to remember that you're not only upgrading the base packages, but the desktop-specific packages as well
[07:52] <carutsu> hello
[07:54] <carutsu> I have a small sound problem, sound is only coming from one speaker only, i found the problem is on alsamixer as left speaker is muted, however the real problem is that i fix it and it works only for that session i doesnt save, once i restart i gotta do it again
[07:57] <flowingfire> Hey there... Does anybody here happen to use VirtualBox?
[07:58] <carutsu> that and i need to stop checking the disk, i forgot where to change the 1 to 0, xD
[07:58] <flowingfire> I'm typing to you from VirtualBox right now, and I can't get out... lol.  What command can I use to re-gain control of linux instead of being stuck in VirtualBox?
[07:59] <nixternal> hahahahaha
[07:59] <nixternal> ctrl+alt
[07:59] <carutsu> flowingfire: google is your friend http://www.virtualbox.org/download/UserManual.pdf
[07:59] <nixternal> or is that vmware? I think they are the same though
[08:00] <flowingfire> lol... I tried ctrl-alt, nixternal. :)  Carutsu-- thanks for the link. :)
[08:00] <carutsu> flowingfire: no problem
[08:00] <flowingfire> But I'm kinda laughing at myself right now too. :)
[08:00] <nixternal> hahaha, I am laughing at you as well ;p
[08:00] <carutsu> nixternal: what for?
[08:00] <nixternal> I have only used VBox for 5 minutes and the window sizing annoyed me on my widescreen
[08:00] <Jucato> heh :)
[08:01] <carutsu> have anyone read my question?
[08:01] <nixternal> it wouldn't shrink down like vmware does/did
[08:01] <flowingfire> heh.... Well, I'm hoping to get seamless integration w/ windows.  (Yeah right.)
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> i reda your question, not sure how to help you
[08:01] <nixternal> carutsu: I seen the question, but I am lost. when it comes to sound I am out of it
[08:02] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago, nixternal well gotta fix it by hand every time, not very annoying
[08:02] <Jucato> !away > lobster
[08:03] <nixternal> no, that *sounds* very annoying :)
[08:03] <carutsu> and how about the fsck? _that's_ annoying as windows have some error or something in the disk and every time i boot i gotta wait for it to check it
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: chicagoans
[08:03] <Jucato> ah ok. I'll *try* to remember that :)
[08:03] <nixternal> hehe
[08:03] <n8k99> they're all from chitonw
[08:03] <raidmax> hey can anyone help me validate cgi text fields
[08:04] <nixternal> 1am, wow it is late
[08:04] <nixternal> raidmax: how are you trying to validate?
[08:04] <raidmax> using regular expressions
[08:04] <raidmax> using perl
[08:04] <nixternal> been a while since I messed with cdi
[08:04] <nixternal> cgi
[08:04] <nixternal> raidmax: you can try #perl
[08:04] <raidmax> kk
[08:04] <raidmax> #perl
[08:04] <nixternal> they are pretty quick to knock you out with their minds
[08:04] <raidmax> wats dat
[08:04] <nixternal> aother IRC channel
[08:05] <mendred> hi when i use beryl with mplayer i get a border around the player window when it is skinned..any workarounds?
[08:05] <raidmax> how do i use that
[08:05] <carutsu> nixternal: near everywhere in #c++ are pretty rude too
[08:05] <Jucato> ##c++....
[08:05] <Jucato> mendred: hm.. try #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[08:05] <carutsu> Jucato: well is the same, is a redirection, isn't it? whi does it have two #?
[08:05] <nixternal> ya, the c++ guys annoy the hell out of me at times
[08:05] <mendred> Jucato: thanks
[08:06] <nixternal> carutsu: something about being official and un-official or private or something
[08:06] <Jucato> carutsu: I forgot the reason. something about the official status of the channel
[08:06] <Jucato> see? nixternal confirmed it :P
[08:06] <carutsu> nixternal, Jucato ok
[08:06] <carutsu> xD
[08:06] <nixternal> ya, I read it somewhere I think
[08:10] <MrDigimon> Is anyone here?
[08:11] <MrDigimon> ok
[08:12] <MrDigimon> people here look kinda...dead
[08:13] <Jucato> hm... it's a weekend, it's almost night/dawn at one part of the world, hm...
[08:13] <MrDigimon> here in northern europe its morning
[08:14] <nixternal> here in Chicago it is morning as well ;)
[08:14] <MrDigimon> :D
[08:14] <Skrot-> 1.14AM in Chicago? :p
[08:14] <nixternal> yup
[08:14] <Jucato> hehe
[08:15] <nixternal> roy d. mercer?
[08:17] <Skrot-> What now?
[08:17] <MrDigimon> no idea
[08:20] <MrDigimon> how many of u in here have updated to kde 4?
[08:20] <Jucato> um... for what purpose?
[08:20] <carutsu> MrDigimon: updated? only kamikaze-ones
[08:20] <Jucato> kde 4 is still alpha. nothing much to upgrade to
[08:21] <MrDigimon> just wondering :P
[08:21] <carutsu> it's first alpha, it will be so buggy that you will barely have time to blink between crashes
[08:21] <carutsu> xD
[08:22] <MrDigimon> then i dont think i should update my comp crashes enough
[08:22] <MrDigimon> XD
[08:23] <carutsu> MrDigimon: crashes? my only crashes are konqueror's ones... and weird enough after i close it xD
[08:23] <carutsu> oh an OOo ones when i try to, say, install a new dictionary
[08:24] <MrDigimon> konquror chrashes much here too but i dont think it have been any for awhile now
[08:26] <nimble> konqueror only crashes for me ive been watching flash stuff
[08:26] <nimble> (not always)
[08:26] <carutsu> mmm, when i close konqueror somtimes i get the error screen, and I'm like 'er i already closed it, oh well'
[08:27] <carutsu> would anyone of you make me a favor? can you open the assistant for OOo and try to install a new dictionary? still crashes here so I'm reporting it but i'd like a confirmation
[08:28] <MrDigimon> have anyone had problem with slow internet?
[08:28] <carutsu> nevermind it's already reported
[08:28] <xonecas> Hi, I just instaled kubuntu feisty
[08:28] <carutsu> MrDigimon: nop, actually i have a better performace in linux than windows, weird eh
[08:28] <carutsu> xonecas: hi
[08:28] <MrDigimon> i have it the other way that its faster in windows
[08:28] <xonecas> I have the broadcom 43xx wireless
[08:29] <xonecas> how do I make it work ? ndiswrapper ?
[08:29] <xonecas> carutsu:  HI
[08:29] <MrDigimon> i have tried to install firestarter, it became a bit faster, and i have disabled the ipv6
[08:30] <MrDigimon> but its still slow ;(
[08:31] <carutsu> xonecas: I have no clue, have you googled it?
[08:31] <xonecas> yeah
[08:31] <carutsu> xonecas: remember young padawan google is your friend: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[08:31] <matt__> hi, could I ask a question on vm servers?
[08:31] <MrDigimon> ive tried but its always the same thing that shows up: the ipv6 tunnel or firestarter
[08:32] <carutsu> matt__: you may but i dont really think it'll be solved here, and remember
[08:32] <carutsu> !ask|matt__
[08:32] <ubotu> matt__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:32] <carutsu> MrDigimon: i wish i could be more usefull however it's been strightforward to me
[08:32] <matt__> is vmware opensource and 'supported' on kubuntu?
[08:33] <Lynoure> Recently most of the podcasts I'm subscribed with with Amarok started showing duplicate entries. How can I fix it?
[08:34] <carutsu> matt__: first and most important of all google something it'll save you time, for some vmware information go to http://www.vmware.com/
[08:35] <carutsu> matt__: as far as i know its not opensource but freeware
[08:35] <carutsu> matt__: if you are a purist you may try virtualbox which isopensource
[08:36] <carutsu> !virtualbox|matt__
[08:36] <ubotu> matt__: VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[08:36] <matt__> ok, id rather use open source, Im just looking at xen in adapt
[08:37] <carutsu> there are plenty of choices, "Virtual PC", "BOCHS" and "QEMU" are GPL too
[08:38] <carutsu> matt__:: and finally if you are interested in vmware, you may find usefull: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_fawn_vmware_server_howto
[08:38] <Hirvinen> matt__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=comparison+of+virtual+machines
[08:39] <MrDigimon> have anyone here tried to install Windows Xp with Qemu?
[08:39] <carutsu> nope, have you?
[08:39] <matt__> ok, I think virtualbox looks good, im going to try and install it!
[08:39] <MrDigimon> i tried but it froze when it tried to install the devices
[08:39] <nimble> does anyone else have this problem where the first keypress after booting up doesnt register?
[08:40] <MrDigimon> nope
[08:40] <carutsu> what I'm wondering right now is if i can run an already installed winxp with any of those... i already have it installed and as i dont have a recovery cd... it'll be ard to reinstall
[08:40] <carutsu> nimble:weird
[08:41] <matt__> actually, changed my mind, gonna go with xen as its in adept
[08:42] <MrDigimon> carutsu: i have no idea
[08:42] <carutsu> matt__: be my guest, that's the good thing about opensource it's really up to you
[08:42] <matt__> does anyone know which package will install it? is it ubuntu-xen-desktop?
[08:43] <carutsu> MrDigimon: yesm after they discovered HDD recovery they became cheap
[08:43] <matt__> carutsu, yes, I like open source!
[08:44] <carutsu> guys gotta have some sleep
[08:45] <carutsu> see you all around
[08:45] <MrDigimon> smell ya later XD
[08:45] <carutsu> err ok, i was expecting a "read you later instead" xD
[08:46] <MrDigimon> well it works too
[08:46] <MrDigimon> :P
[08:46] <carutsu> kernel panic carutsu doesnt recogniced the parameter "smell" and tried to kill init
[08:46] <carutsu> xD
[08:46] <MrDigimon> :D
[08:46] <matt__>  ubuntu-xen-desktop says This package will install a suite of software for running Xen on SERVERS?
[08:46] <matt__> is this just a mistake in the description?
[08:46] <carutsu> matt__: a server is any host computer, isnt it?
[08:47] <matt__> thank you carutsu
[08:47] <carutsu> matt__: np
[08:47] <carutsu> hope you dont have problems
[08:47] <carutsu> check out any good tutorial on the net
[08:48] <carutsu> matt__ remember google anything you want it'll be very usefull and you'll learn
[08:48] <carutsu> matt__ good luck
[08:48] <matt__> ubuntu-xen-desktop - it doesnt install any gnome dependencies does it? do you know?
[08:49] <carutsu> mat__ oops, i dont know, mmm may be the gui, a lot of gui's are made in gtk for portability (i think)
[08:49] <MrDigimon> carutsu: didnt u say that u needed some sleep?
[08:49] <carutsu> MrDigimon: err well i do
[08:50] <carutsu> MrDigimon: xD
[08:50] <MrDigimon> xD
[08:50] <carutsu> MrDigimon: take good care of matt__, and tell aunt sarah i will not go back for christmass
[08:50] <carutsu> xD
[08:50] <MrDigimon> :)
[08:50] <matt__> night carutsu, thanks for your help
[08:51] <carutsu> matt__ np glad to be usefull
[08:51] <carutsu> well see you around
[08:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[08:53] <MrDigimon> mornin...
[08:54] <matt__> MrDigimon, ive installed xen, but i;ve looked in the start menu to find it, but its not there
[08:54] <matt__> how do I start xen do you know?
[08:54] <MrDigimon> tried to start via shell?
[08:55] <MrDigimon> it might work, and if it dont, i dont have any idea
[08:55] <MilhousePunkRock> does anyone know if feisty's logout dialog is available for other distros too?
[08:56] <MilhousePunkRock> because I would really like to have it on my gentoo box too...
[08:56] <MrDigimon> i have no idea
[08:56] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: no it isn't
[08:57] <Jucato> matt__: I think you "run" Xen as a separate session, from the login menu. not really sure though
[08:57] <Jucato> !xen
[08:57] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[08:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: So I don't need to browse through kde-apps all day anyway?
[08:58] <Jucato> yep
[08:58] <Jucato> you could probably apt-get source the code, but I'm not sure where it is.
[08:59] <Jucato> it's just a patch to the current logout dialog anyway, so it might be in kdebase
[08:59] <Jucato> or ksmserver.. hm... let me see...
[08:59] <matt__> thank you ubotu
[08:59] <sebastian_> kubuntu es?
[08:59] <sebastian_> somebody help my?
[08:59] <Jucato> matt__: ubotu is a bot :)
[08:59] <Jucato> !ubotu | matt__
[08:59] <ubotu> matt__: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:59] <Jucato> bah wrong factoid... but anyway...
[09:00] <neptunepink> !turing
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <neptunepink> !turing test
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turing test - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <neptunepink> ah, well, you pass it anyways. :)
[09:01] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: the relevant package/app seems to be ksmserver
[09:01] <matt__> well you learn something new every day! lol
[09:02] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: Yeah, I think so too, of course I spent some time with google before comming here...
[09:05] <MrDigimon> how many of u have friends that always tells u to change from linux to windows?
[09:06] <matt__> yes, I do
[09:06] <MrDigimon> its annoying isnt it?
[09:07] <matt__> sorry, i miss-read the question, no, I tell people to change to linux
[09:07] <MrDigimon> ok, i do the same thing but its hard to get them to do it
[09:08] <matt__> what do you think is the main reason why it is difficult to convert?
[09:08] <MilhousePunkRock> matt__: Games, followed by laziness
[09:09] <MrDigimon> all of them allways think of the games in windows so they dont want to change(even if it doesnt exist virus on linux )
[09:09] <MrDigimon> an they are allways scared of something they dont know anything of
[09:10] <Jucato> "change" is the main reason
[09:10] <matt__> i agree, games is a big one, also I dont think people understand what an operating system is
[09:10] <matt__> so when they want to install a program, they dont understand why they cannot
[09:12] <MrDigimon> but it exits some funny games on linux like Supertux (super mario)
[09:12] <matt__> thanks for your help today guys, but im off now, ill be on later asking for more help! lol!
[09:13] <MrDigimon> dont ask to much, we can get tired of u lol
[09:18] <Lynoure> Strigi-daemon seems to crash every time I start indexing
[09:19] <MrDigimon> is strigi-daemon like daemon tools for windows or is it something else?
[09:19] <Lynoure> MrDigimon: it's a daemon for desktop search
[09:19] <MrDigimon> ok
[09:20] <Jucato> MrDigimon: a daemon is the term for "background service/process" in Linux
[09:20] <Jucato> nothing to do with Daemon Tools
[09:20] <MrDigimon> ok, i was just wondering when they nearly had the same name
[09:21] <Jucato> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computer_software)
[09:21] <Jucato> well, daemons existed looong before Daemon Tools :)
[09:22] <MrDigimon> thx for explaining, i havent used linux for so long yet
[09:23] <MrDigimon> but i still havent got a clue to help u lol
[09:23] <Jucato> not me though :)
[09:24] <MrDigimon> but im sure u will get that working sooner or later
[09:26] <Lynoure> MrDigimon: I gave up on it for now. I can pretty much remember where I keep my files for now. Heard it is going to be in KDE4, so maybe it will work then =)
[09:26] <MrDigimon> hopefully it will
[09:29] <Lynoure> Hmm, I started wondering if there is some setting for menu exit sensitivity...
[09:29] <MrDigimon> maybe
[09:30] <Lynoure> With long konqueror bookmark folder hierarchies I sometimes accidentally more the mouse subtly wrong, exiting the menu accidentally
[09:34] <nimble> menu exit sensitivity?
[09:35] <Lynoure> nimble: I just tried to explain what I meant. If it did not help, can you tell which part was left weird?
[09:35] <Lynoure> s/weird/vague
[09:36] <Lynoure> nimble: I don't know if such setting exist, so I also do not know what they'd call it.
[09:36] <nimble> well my menu only exits when i click or move the cursor to a different submenu (and im moving the mouse more down than across)
[09:37] <llutz> hi
[09:37] <nimble> actually its as long as im not moving it too fast
[09:37] <Lynoure> nimble: not when you accidentally move the mouse 1px outside the submenu into the root level menu?
[09:39] <Lynoure> nimble: it's especially frustrating when the submenu you are in is 5th level or so :)
[09:39] <MrDigimon> read u later dudes, we gonna have guests...
[09:39] <nimble> ah, well its based on the speed youre moving the mouse
[09:39] <nimble> if youre moving the mouse fast then it wont go
[09:39] <MrDigimon> bye
[09:40] <Lynoure> nimble: so it is especially hard for slow and clumsy people? Weird.
[09:42] <nimble> you must have a lot of bookmarks if theres 5 levels
[09:43] <iGraphite> hey
[09:43] <Lynoure> But actually I cannot even do the speed that would stop me from going to the root level vertically. Horizontally there seems to be a limit
[09:44] <Lynoure> nimble: about 2000, maybe
[09:44] <nimble> maybe itd be faster and easier to use the bookmarks search
[09:46] <dettoaltrimenti> in kdm theme manager, it says I need to be administrator to make changes, but there's no 'administrator' button
[09:46] <Lynoure> nimble: unfortunately not fast or easy, as I often do not know the specific site name or even wether it is Finnish or English
[09:47] <Lynoure> nimble: so, do you have speedlimit on the vertical leap?
[09:48] <nimble> mine seems to be based purely on mouse, not whether its horizontal or vertical
[09:48] <nimble> i can open a window and just wave the mouse around over the root menu and the submenu stays open
[09:49] <Lynoure> nimble: you meant mouse speed?
[09:49] <nimble> yeah
[09:49] <Lynoure> nimble: Do you know if there is any way of adjusting the speedlimit?
[09:49] <flaccid> jack be nimble, jack be quick, jack uses kde instead of a candlestick
[09:50] <misolax> su tu slovaci???
[09:50] <pag> !sl | misolax__
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <nimble> no sorry
[09:51] <pag> !sk
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <se7en_> somebody uses a Satellite P205-S6287 toshiba notebook?
[09:51] <misolax__> jj
[09:51] <pag> no luck :-/
[09:51] <nimble> i expect it wouldnt be too hard to change within the code
[09:53] <Jucato> !cz | misolax__
[09:53] <ubotu> misolax__: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[09:53] <Lynoure> Having like 0.5 second delay on exiting would be ideal for me.
[09:54] <Lynoure> nimble: Maybe I'll try that some day :)
[09:54] <Lynoure> Hah, found a workaround, arrow keys.
[09:55] <misolax__> sory
[09:55] <flaccid> !beryl
[09:55] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:56] <flaccid> anyone seen kubuntu specific beryl guides?
[09:56] <nimble> its pretty much the same as ubuntu
[09:56] <flaccid> it is the same
[09:57] <flaccid> kubuntu users can get confused when there are gnome specific instructions
[09:58] <flaccid> ok it is in the wiki
[09:58] <flaccid> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BerylOnFeisty
[09:58] <flaccid> Jucato: wonder if we can get a #kubuntu specific trigger for ubotu to advise that link
[10:00] <_RadioHead> morning
[10:02] <flaccid> evening
[10:07] <_RadioHead> flaccid: :)
[10:08] <_RadioHead> flaccid: why i can`t use internet when i use dhcp configuration on eth0 ?
[10:08] <flaccid> i don't know
[10:08] <flaccid> misconfiguration?
[10:08] <flaccid> need more information
[10:08] <flaccid> does /etc/resolv.conf have nameservers?
[10:10] <EyeVisions> solved problem screensaver wound't start automatic. Do not uninstall laptop batterij even when your not on a laptop
[10:12] <EyeVisions> works then oke here
[10:15] <_RadioHead> flaccid: moment
[10:16] <_RadioHead> yes resolv.conf have nameservers
[10:16] <_RadioHead> do no why is that
[10:17] <_RadioHead> if i give static ip then internet is working
[10:17] <llutz> _RadioHead: but your dhcp-server works ok?
[10:17] <flaccid> yes but when you use dhcp, are nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[10:17] <EyeVisions> !surround
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about surround - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <_RadioHead> llutz: 100%
[10:18] <_RadioHead> flaccid: yes
[10:18] <flaccid> you might want to check that is is giving the right ip. ifconfig
[10:18] <_RadioHead> more /etc/resolv.conf
[10:18] <_RadioHead> nameservers IP
[10:18] <_RadioHead> nameserver IP23
[10:18] <flaccid> check the gateway in netstat -r
[10:18] <cox37777> hey all
[10:19] <EyeVisions> o/
[10:19] <_RadioHead> flaccid: i think it is something with dhcp on ubuntu
[10:20] <flaccid> check your given IP address, broadcast, nameservers and gateway first
[10:20] <_RadioHead> flaccid: all work ok dude with other OS/PC
[10:20] <flaccid> my dhcp doesn't even work on boot with my kubuntu feisty. quite ghey. and yeah ubuntu seems to have various dhcp issues in my experience too, usually becuase of networkmanager
[10:20] <_RadioHead> i try slax , windows ...
[10:20] <_RadioHead> suse,slackware ...
[10:21] <flaccid> i use freebsd myself
[10:22] <EyeVisions> don't use dhcp over here so i have no  problems
[10:23] <_RadioHead> EyeVisions: when i give static ip it is ok everything
[10:23] <_RadioHead> flaccid: :) i use freebsd before litle bit on 166Mhz :)
[10:23] <EyeVisions> yep have no problems
[10:23] <EyeVisions> on kubuntu feisty
[10:24] <EyeVisions> some small things only
[10:27] <EyeVisions> ls $KDEDIR/share/apps/konversation/scripts
[10:28] <EyeVisions> excuus
[10:30] <stamen> 
[10:30] <stamen> hi
[10:31] <stamen> my box can't mount automaticaly the CD-ROM
[10:31] <stamen> what can I do
[10:31] <stamen> I am with faisty
[10:31] <stamen> fawn
[10:31] <stamen> I have problem only with CD-ROM
[10:32] <stamen> so what to do
[10:32] <stamen> please help me
[10:36] <EyeVisions> you have it mount it as root stamen
[10:36] <stamen> why as root
[10:36] <stamen> before when I insert the disk
[10:36] <stamen> it has opened automativali
[10:37] <EyeVisions> it was more for me if it then work
[10:37] <stamen> when I was with dapper, but now it wont
[10:37] <stamen> and I want to make as it was before
[10:39] <zsz> is there a kubuntu livecd version that has kpat installed?
[10:40] <_buz> zsz: you can use apt-get on the live cd
[10:40] <crazyrobot> !kpat
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <_buz> its just that after a reboot, it wont be installed anymore, obviously
[10:40] <zsz> sure I can but the one that's going to use it has never even touched linux
[10:41] <MrDigimon> _buz: because it's installed in the ramdisk
[10:41] <_buz> MrDigimon: yeah i know that ;9
[10:41] <_buz> but this helped me several times
[10:42] <_buz> because you can use obscure recovery tools that way quite easily
[10:42] <zsz> so there isn't a livecd with kpat preinstalled...
[10:44] <zsz> is there a way I can preinstall it?
[10:44] <zsz> bu modifying the cd image
[10:45] <zsz> by*
[10:48] <zsz> yeah, I found a howto on building livecd, will try that. Thanks guys
[10:59] <stamen> in the kernel which option responds to CD-ROM support
[11:01] <kraut> moin
[11:03] <MrDigimon> anyone alive in here?
[11:04] <pag> MrDigimon, no :)
[11:04] <zsz> MrDigimon, absolutely not
[11:05] <MrDigimon> tought so, hey waitamin....
[11:05] <S-Angeli> Why I have never been able to print from kubuntu any print picture over a network printer?  I am able to print test pages but not pictures. The printrer is always showing "Printing in Progress" but never prints. From other linux distro and from windows it prints fine and fast
[11:05] <S-Angeli> Any advice please?
[11:06] <MrDigimon> what are the model of the printer?
[11:06] <S-Angeli> HP LaserJet 1320n
[11:06] <MrDigimon> ok
[11:07] <Blissex> S-Angeli: the KDE print subsystem prints pictures *very* slowly.
[11:07] <S-Angeli> I see
[11:07] <S-Angeli>  so it is not related to ubuntu but to kde?
[11:07] <S-Angeli> what about other desktop manager like gnome or others?
[11:07] <S-Angeli> are they the same?
[11:08] <Blissex> S-Angeli: try to print from GQView or from Firefox, might make a difference.
[11:08] <S-Angeli> I will try
[11:08] <S-Angeli> thks then.
[11:08] <Blissex> S-Angeli: I suspect that the KDE print subsystem generates extremely inefficient Postscript.
[11:08] <stamen> so, somehow my cd-rom device is not recongnized in my system
[11:08] <S-Angeli> does this happen on gnome too?
[11:09] <stamen> but it works on windows, how can that happen, in my custom kernel support for ATAPI device is cheked
[11:09] <stamen> where can be the mistake, can anybody tell me
[11:10] <stamen> and in /dev for which will be the device there
[11:10] <Blissex> stamen: depends on what you mean by not recognized, what do you expect to happen.
[11:11] <stamen> Blissex: k3b does not see that I have CD-rom
[11:11] <stamen> writer or reader
[11:11] <stamen> Blissex: it says that there is no such device
[11:12] <stamen> Blissex: and as I said, I have made a custom kernel, but the support for ATAPI device especialy CD-ROM is checked
[11:12] <stamen> Blissex: and it should support it, but not :(
[11:12] <marko> why i cant find the official ubuntu how-to ?
[11:13] <Blissex> stamen: try 'head /proc/ide/hd*/model'
[11:13] <stamen> Blissex: in fstab is written to be /dev/sdc
[11:13] <stamen> Blissex: no I will try this
[11:13] <Blissex> stamen: have you got a SATA CD/DVD drive?
[11:13] <stamen> Blissex: head: cannot open `/proc/ide/hd*/model' for reading: No such file or directory
[11:14] <Blissex> stamen: well then, that looks like your problem...
[11:14] <stamen> Blissex: no, but in new kubuntu it wants the divice to be with "s" instead of "h"
[11:14] <Blissex> stamen: unless your CD/DVD is SATA or external.
[11:14] <stamen> Blissex: it is IDE
[11:15] <stamen> Blissex: only ATA
[11:15] <Blissex> stamen: OK, then you know all you need to fix the kernel config.
[11:15] <stamen> Blissex: yes but I have checked for both for SATA and ATA ATAPI
[11:15] <stamen> Blissex: and it should work but not
[11:15] <stamen> :(
[11:16] <Blissex> stamen: sure, you have an ATAPI layer but no ATA chipset drivers.
[11:18] <stamen> Blissex: where are this drivers placed if you remember?
[11:18] <stamen> to see, I think they are checked too
[11:19] <stamen> Blissex: is there a specific name for this ATA chipset drivers
[11:19] <Blissex> stamen: under block devices and IDE. However what the above command says is that no IDE/ATA devices have been recognized.
[11:19] <premier_> hello, I just used a gparted liveCD to move my primary linux partition.  Everything seems to run just as it did before, but for some reason my konqueror bookmarks tab is broken.  Also, the KDE System Guard wont show the process table (something about a malformed XML file)
[11:20] <stamen> Blissex: why should them be not reconized
[11:21] <Blissex> stamen: beause you did not configure the relevant drivers. You need also to configure the IDE and CD drivers.
[11:21] <stamen> Blissex: I have this under block devices ->ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support  --->
[11:21] <stamen> Blissex: where is this option for IDE and CD drivers in this menu ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support  --->
[11:22] <premier_> Also, (unrelated problem) sometimes when I plug in my ethernet cord (I'm on a laptop), knetworkmanager attempts to switch from wireless to ethernet, but it gets stuck in some loop and I can't get online.  killing and restarting knetworkmanager fixes this
[11:22] <Blissex> stamen: it is a bit pointless to discuss this in detail... You jsut have to configure the right drivers until you see the name of the drive returned by that command.
[11:22] <stamen> ok
[11:22] <stamen> Blissex: 10x
[11:22] <Blissex> premier_: try to 'fsck' again. You may have unpleasant surprises.
[11:23] <Blissex> stamen: if you do 'head /proc/ide/*/model' you should see at least the names of the IDE chipsets you got.
[11:23] <premier_> Blissex: I know I shouldn't do fsck while online... should I reboot a liveCD?
[11:23] <Blissex> premier_: yes...
[11:23] <stamen> Blissex: ok
[11:23] <Blissex> premier_: just copying files around should not break anything.
[11:25] <premier_> Blissex: specifically, I expanded my primary linux partition (ext3) for a very full 55GB to 73GB and shrunk a windows partition (NTFS).  The windows partition was before the linux partition
[11:25] <Blissex> stamen: this is what I get here: http://pastebin.ca/484569 note the two "pci" chipset drivers.
[11:26] <Blissex> premier_: that is always a bit of a dangerous operation. However just expanding and especially with 'ext3' should be quite safe. However you did not just expand.
[11:26] <premier_> I didn't?
[11:27] <stamen> Blissex: yes I saw it, but I must find the option in the kernel
[11:27] <Blissex> premier_: because if you shrunk the NTFS partition and that was before the 'ext3' one that meant that the whole 'ext3' partition had to be shifted down.
[11:27] <stamen> Blissex: to enable all this
[11:27] <marko> why i can't find the official ubuntu how-to
[11:27] <Blissex> premier_: straight expand happens only if one adds more space at the end of a partition.
[11:27] <marko> is the server down
[11:27] <marko> ?
[11:27] <premier_> Blissex: oh, so shifting my partition was more than just copy pasta?  It had to make changes?
[11:28] <stamen> Blissex: when the /proc directory have to made
[11:28] <Blissex> premier_: well, that probably involved rewriting everything.
[11:28] <stamen> Blissex: oo its made sorry
[11:28] <Blissex> premier_: a very slow operation too. Adding space to the end of a partition instead is very quick.
[11:28] <premier_> mmm.... well it did take an hour and a half to complete... alright I'll go run that fsck now
[11:29] <luca> hi everyone
[11:29] <premier_> yeah, that wasn't really possible
[11:29] <tmske> Hi, someone who can help me with getting a plugable belkin wireless card working, I tried howto's for ndiswrapper, but I can't get it working
[11:29] <Blissex> premier_: hour and a half is way too fast for shifting 55GB same disk to same disk. Unless the shift was done really very cleverly (which is error prone).
[11:30] <Blissex> tmske: try #wireless and be prepared to be told that it is not supported...
[11:30] <luca> I'd need help - yesterday I somhow broke "important" parts of kde and system - cannot use mouse scroll in kde anymore (ut in gnome it functions) and, most importantly, suspension is not called if I use the graphic manager, I have to activate it with hibernate-ram, from the command line
[11:32] <marko> can somebody give me a link
[11:32] <marko> from the official ubuntu how-to
[11:32] <marko> ?
[11:32] <tmske> Blissex: Ok I'll ask it there
[11:33] <Blissex> marko: your questions dont make a lot of sense to me. There are dozens of HOWTOs. depends what you want to do.
[11:33] <uga> anyone knows if there's a way to enable the dvb-t module for kaffeine using kubuntu packages?
[11:33] <Fahuadai> marko: try starting here - https://help.ubuntu.com/
[11:33] <uga> it's weird but they dont' seem to be enabled here
[11:33] <marko> the official how to
[11:34] <marko> i need the list of repos
[11:34] <luca> anyone?
[11:34] <marko> and i can't find it
[11:34] <pag> !repositories | marko
[11:34] <ubotu> marko: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:34] <pag> marko, that one?
[11:35] <marko> no
[11:35] <marko> the whole list
[11:36] <roadfish> when I type "loadkeys dvorak" at a console window, I get "findkeymap: no such file or directory \n cannot open file dvorak" ... how do I fix this problem?
[11:37] <pag> marko, http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ <- here you can create sources.list for your own needs
[11:38] <marko> i find the guide
[11:38] <Jitenz> can anyone help me with pppoeconf
[11:38] <marko> google
[11:38] <marko> i dont know why
[11:38] <marko> it isnt on the top page
[11:38] <Jitenz> i actually was able to setup pppoeconf
[11:38] <marko> when you write ubuntu help or ubuntu how to
[11:39] <Jitenz> but i wanted to change the account so i ran it again and all messed up
[11:40] <Jitenz> any1 plz help
[11:40] <tmske> Blissex: there doesn't seem to be much activity there :-s
[11:42] <Jitenz> hey guys, plz help me out.
[11:43] <luca> please help me. I am on the verge of formatting the ubuntu partition if I cannot get rid of these problems
[11:45] <pag> luca, did you mess around with sudo, or simply with your account?
[11:45] <luca> well.
[11:45] <luca> yesterday there was some updte for the hal packages.
[11:46] <luca> and then, I did something which maybe was totally stupid but definitely should not have broken the system this much...
[11:46] <luca> I have installed the kde4 libraries and packages and created a different session type
[11:46] <luca> should not have touched the suspension and scroll though, I do not understand, frankly
[11:46] <logixoul> Hi. I'm trying to use the Feisty LiveCD to fix my GRUB installation. I copied the /boot/grub dir from the installed partition into the LiveCD ramdisk root dir. Then sudo grub-install /dev/hda returns this error: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device. How do I fix this?
[11:47] <pag> luca, did you follow the instructions in the kubuntu announcement?
[11:47] <luca> yes I did
[11:47] <roadfish> how do I generate keymaps for "loadkeys" in Ubuntu?
[11:47] <sabayonuser> hello, this is premier
[11:48] <sabayonuser> what is the command to check my disk?
[11:48] <sabayonuser> fsck?
[11:48] <logixoul> yes
[11:48] <pag> luca, does the scroll work in kde4 session?
[11:48] <logixoul> sabayonuser: (also, type /nick premier)
[11:49] <luca> problem is, I firt wrote the four lines in the shell (Export etc.), but when I realized the mistake, I corrected it immediately
[11:49] <luca> not sure, give me 5 minutes to check :)
[11:52] <luca> pag yes it functions
[11:52] <Jitenz> guys, i am really in trouble. help me
[11:52] <luca> I am in the kde4 session now, it functions
[11:53] <rkvirani> I have ubuntu, I just installed kde, how do I get the kubuntu theme?/
[11:53] <luca> suspension though does not function even in gnome :(
[11:53] <luca> rkvirani: have you installed the kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-artwork packages?
[11:54] <rkvirani> kubuntu-desktop will reset all my settings even the boot splash
[11:54] <rkvirani> I just want the kubuntu default theme
[11:54] <luca> then kubuntu-artwork I guess
[11:55] <pag> luca, hmm.. you could try to export those libraries to their right (=kde3) places
[11:55] <rkvirani> kubuntu-artwork - There is no such.
[11:55] <luca> pag which one should they be?
[11:56] <Jitenz> which files get affected on setting pppoeconf.
[11:56] <pag> luca, heh :) *very* good question... I'll try to find them, but I can't promise anything
[11:56] <luca> rkvirani: ur right, dunno then :(
[11:57] <luca> pag ok thanks...
[11:57] <rkvirani> oh, I think its kde-style-polyester
[11:57] <luca> in any case, just to see if the problem is simple
[11:57] <luca> after I exported the libraries as per the article, to correct I gave the following commands:
[11:58] <luca> export KDEHOME=~/.kde
[11:58] <pag> the first should be: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde3/lib
[11:58] <rkvirani> whats the best irc client for KDE?
[11:58] <fdoving> rkvirani: konversation is nice.
[11:58] <luca> pag there it is!
[11:58] <pag> rkvirani, imho it's konversation :)
[11:58] <luca> I just did the export to /usr/lib
[11:59] <luca> same by me :)
[11:59] <rkvirani> are there "desktop effects" for KDE?
[12:00] <luca> pag ok, then the other two repairing commands were
[12:00] <Jitenz> rkvirani: try beryl
[12:00] <logixoul> rkvirani: yes, but compared to beryl's, they suck.
[12:00] <luca> export KDEDIR=/usr/kde3
[12:00] <pag> luca, looks like they're all the same lines, just kde3 instead kde4  (except home, it's simply ~/.kde)
[12:01] <luca> ok, then, rebooting
[12:01] <luca> but I fear this is not what causes the suspension problem...in any case, trying! :)
[12:02] <rkvirani> there we go
[12:02] <rkvirani> the kubuntu artwork is so much nicer
[12:02] <rkvirani> when I had kubuntu running two of my friends (one of them has been in IT for over 15 years) thought it was vista :D
[12:04] <phoenixbyrd> I've seen nothing but bad reviews for vista
[12:04] <logixoul> you hang in /. too much ;)
[12:04] <premier> hello
[12:04] <rkvirani> mee to but its interesting
[12:04] <logixoul> many mainstream sites recommended vista
[12:05] <logixoul> Hey, I'm in the Feisty LiveCD, fixing my GRUB installation. I sudo chrooted into /media/hda2/boot/grub (hda2 is the installed partition). Then grub-install hd0 returns this error: /dev/hda4: Not found or not a block device. However, /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't mention hda4. How do I fix this?
[12:05] <phoenixbyrd> yea, they made it look pretty, but idk if I'd touch it
[12:05] <rkvirani> logixoul: thats cause many mainstream sites probably got paid to
[12:05] <premier> how long should a disk check take on a 73GB hard drive?
[12:06] <rkvirani> premier: depends what filesystem
[12:06] <phoenixbyrd> logixoul, last grub error I had I reinstalled ... fixed the problem right away lol
[12:06] <logixoul> rkvirani: dunno, I haven't tried Vista yet.
[12:06] <premier> .qy3
[12:06] <premier> ext3
[12:06] <logixoul> phoenixbyrd: yeah, uh, I'd like to skip that if possible :)
[12:06] <luca> pag ok thumbs up for scrolling
[12:07] <rkvirani> I have, I ran it on my box for a while, its WindowsXP with eye-candy.  The problem is its extremely bloated, if you dont have 1gb ram it swaps just to open notepad, they say you should have 4gb ram... haha
[12:07] <phoenixbyrd> o.0
[12:07] <rkvirani> konversation is nice :D
[12:07] <premier> mepis os has a gui fsck utility and I don't think its working correctly... can I abort it safely?  it has a little console window but the console window isn't giving me any messages
[12:07] <luca> but suspension does not function
[12:07] <premier> or a progress bar
[12:08] <premier> rkvirani, and thats why we need 64 bit computers... so we can have 16 GB or ram for vista+1
[12:09] <rkvirani> Whats the theoretical limit for a 386, was it 8GB??
[12:09] <premier> 4GB
[12:09] <premier> but only a portion of that is usuable
[12:09] <rkvirani> premier: no thanks, I think I will stick with linux :D
[12:09] <premier> and 64 bit is still 386, its just expand
[12:10] <premier> Actually, I kinda want 64 bits... with open source software, its easy to transition
[12:10] <premier> although, I'm told I'm going to want 32 bits anyway
[12:10] <rkvirani> premier: true enough
[12:10] <nimble> not that easy
[12:10] <pag> rkvirani, iirc thos fonts can be obtained from https://www.redhat.com/promo/fonts/
[12:10] <nimble> flash doesnt have a native 64 bit version
[12:10] <rkvirani> I have a friend with a 64-bit dualcore AMD, he is running the 32bit version of windows...
[12:10] <rkvirani> pag: thanks
[12:11] <roguejedix> Can anyone tell me why my mouse cursor changes to an X when I hover over the kicker or its menus?
[12:11] <nimble> you have to compile wine yourself as well (at least when i tried which was only a month or 2 back)
[12:11] <luca> roguejedix: that's strange
[12:11] <luca> nimble: what?!?
[12:11] <luca> just open adept_manager and install wine
[12:11] <luca> it's perfectly up to date....
[12:12] <nimble> there is/was no 64 bit wine package
[12:12] <roguejedix> luca: Yeah, I had to do a xserver-xorg reconfigure after the Edgy -> Feisty upgrade
[12:12] <luca> nimble: oh ok sorry :)
[12:12] <luca> roguejedix: can't help you then, I am using a "clean" fesity isntall
[12:13] <luca> uhm dum de dum let's remove the system and reinstall it...
[12:13] <roguejedix> Damn
[12:15] <logixoul> Guys, I'm in the Feisty LiveCD, fixing my bootloader. I sudo chrooted into /media/hda2/ (the installed partition). Then grub-install hd0 returns this error: /dev/hda4: Not found or not a block device. However, /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't mention 	hda4	 or 	hd0,3	. What should I do?
[12:15] <Fahuadai> roguejedix :  you using a custom mouse icons theme?
[12:16] <premier> I'm getting an amd 64 this summer, and I'm going to install kubuntu, vista and debian... do you guys think I should take advantage of the 64 bit processor, or just stick to 32 bit OSes?
[12:16] <rkvirani> logixoul:  edit menu.lst and add the lines or modify the ones you require
[12:16] <logixoul> rkvirani: I re
[12:16] <logixoul> oops
[12:16] <logixoul> rkvirani: I read through menu.lst and it seems all right
[12:16] <logixoul> rkvirani: want me to paste it?
[12:17] <rkvirani> logixoul: nope
[12:17] <logixoul> rkvirani: ok. any idea what could've gone wrong?
[12:17] <rkvirani> logixoul:  I will refer you to the gentoo grub instructions
[12:18] <logixoul> ok, thanks
[12:18] <roguejedix> Fahuadai: Not that I know of
[12:18] <rkvirani> logixoul: well first of all I do things manually, it gets stuff done.  And you will actually understand what you are doing and why you are doing it :D
[12:18] <premier> luca: are you running 64 bit?
[12:18] <logixoul> yeah, I'm trying to do that
[12:18] <Fahuadai> was thinking there theme might be missing an icon or two... but if you're using default then i'm not sure.
[12:19] <Fahuadai> there = the^
[12:19] <roguejedix> Maybe something went wrong when I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:20] <rkvirani> logixoul: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10#doc_chap2 refer to code listing 8
[12:20] <roguejedix> Although it did the trick for the kinit error it was giving me
[12:22] <logixoul> rkvirani: cool, no errors this time! thanks! rebooting...
[12:23] <franky> hi! is there anyone who know the repository which contents "winwrap"?
[12:25] <Fahuadai> !repository
[12:25] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:26] <logixoul> rkvirani: dude... awesome. thanks a million!
[12:26] <rkvirani> logixoul:  no problem
[12:26] <rkvirani> sometimes apt doenst work, its very rare and it is the best package management solution out there but manual always does the trick :D plus you learn more :D
[12:29] <franky> !repository
[12:29] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:29] <HymnToLife> rkvirani, no, it's not
[12:29] <rkvirani> HymnToLife: ?
[12:29] <minty> HEYY
[12:29] <HymnToLife> it "doesn't work" way too often to be considered "the best"
[12:30] <minty> 1 of my moniyor wont wokjr can any1 help me
[12:30] <roguejedix> Okay, where'd my hide button for the kicker go?
[12:30] <Fahuadai> !software sources
[12:30] <Fahuadai> ack. bot not clever enough :(
[12:31] <Fahuadai> anyone tell me or direct me to, how i can add 'bleeding edge' software repositories to my software sources in 7.04 ?
[12:32] <minty> where is "system x server?
[12:32] <logixoul> how do I find out the UUID of a partition?
[12:33] <Bene> hey everyone =) I have a little question: How do I save all the usersettings and systemsettings and other things on an USB-Stick based Live!-System ?
[12:34] <Bene> Fahuadai , there is a file called sources.list I think. So you gotta open this file and write the sources you want to connect to for updating, installing things
[12:35] <Fahuadai> bene thanks, but i was wanting to know the actualy location of the sources. (ie. http://kubuntu/bleeding... etc)
[12:36] <Fahuadai> i know where to add the repository, i wanting to know where it's location is.
[12:37] <stoneythegoomba> dnloaded feisty desktop-i386 and alternate isos and verified checksums were good through iso burn. When booting with the CD got a invalid compressed format err=2. Thought it might be the MBR so wiped it and partition table with dd command. Booted without silent option and got spurious ack error with atkbd.c So I stripped to Video Card, CD/DVD, HDDs, and Keyboard. Now just get CRC error when trying to boot
[12:41] <stoneythegoomba> does anyone have options to pass to kernel to try and get around these errors
[12:41] <rkvirani> What is this "on screen display in konversation"?
[12:42] <rkvirani> Im going to sleep
[12:42] <rkvirani> I am tired :D
[12:43] <rkvirani> night night
[12:43] <stoneythegoomba> hello ??? Do I have voice here?
[12:45] <EyeVisions> !surround
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about surround - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <franky> hi! how can i remove a repository of adept using Konsole?
[12:48] <Fahuadai> franky: try: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:48] <franky> ok
[12:49] <Fahuadai> that should open the list for you to edit
[12:49] <pag> franky, do it with sudo ;)
[12:49] <stoneythegoomba> hello can anyone help with install disk problems?
[12:50] <franky> sudo???
[12:50] <franky> how??
[12:50] <Fahuadai> yes sorry, put sudo in front of the command i said
[12:50] <Fahuadai> so:
[12:50] <franky> ah ok
[12:50] <Fahuadai> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:51] <Fahuadai> sudo  == super user do.  for when you need root access
[12:52] <markie> what is the KDE program for GDesklets ?
[12:53] <franky> the problem is this: I've added a repository which doesn't work, when i closed the window to add repositories, adp told me that is impossible open atp database
[12:54] <ahmadrovick> I am new user here
[12:54] <franky> an suggests me to use apt-setup or apt-get up... (none of the two works)
[12:54] <pag> markie, while not exacly the same, superkaramba works just fine
[12:55] <markie> that is the one.... but it is not on the installable program list is it ?
[12:55] <pag> !info superkaramba | markie
[12:55] <ubotu> markie: superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 533 kB, installed size 1428 kB
[12:56] <minty> how do i mount my windows hardrive
[12:56] <ahmadrovick> can ay body tell me the software for internetcafe
[12:56] <_4strO> franky: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:56] <ahmadrovick> where i sould to download it
[12:56] <markie> pag: ah, i need to update the source list
[12:56] <pag> markie, so you have to have universe enabled to install superkaramba
[12:56] <pag> !universe | markie
[12:56] <ubotu> markie: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:57] <stoneythegoomba> hello
[12:57] <_4strO> yop
[12:57] <franky> _4strO i've done it but the source i've added doesn't appear
[12:57] <seishinbyou> hello
[12:57] <_Pe-Te_> Any idea how i can free up the space from files i sent to trashbin when my hd was full, they never showed up there, so cant fully delete them. the icons did vanish from desktop thou.
[12:58] <stoneythegoomba> can anyone help with install cd errors?
[12:58] <_4strO> franky: did you look all the lines, particulary the first ?
[12:58] <ahmadrovick> hello can anybody tellme where is it
[12:59] <_4strO> ahmadrovick: dont understand your question ...
[12:59] <seishinbyou> I don't really have a problem; I just am writing to let people know I converted an office full of win98 boxes to various flavours of X/K/Ubuntu and everything is wonderful
[12:59] <pag> seishinbyou, nice :)
[01:00] <_4strO> ahmadrovick: THE software for internet cafe, which one ?
[01:00] <ahmadrovick> i want to build an internet cafe ussing kubuntu
[01:01] <ahmadrovick> is there any apilcation for manageing the internet cafe for my network
[01:01] <_4strO> ahmadrovick: did you googlize a little ?
[01:01] <Fahuadai> seishinbyou: great to hear!
[01:01] <seishinbyou> odd place; they are afraid of any Windows after 98, but were all gung-ho for Linux when they saw it was all pretty-like and actually did stuff
[01:01] <ahmadrovick> or can i instal software for windows in my linux
[01:02] <seishinbyou> there is wine and vmware
[01:02] <franky> _4strO i used apt-get update and Konsole says"'http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/xapps/xwinwrap/http://webcvs.freedeskt         op.org/xapps/xwinwrap/deb' it's not recognized at line 46 in souce list          /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:02] <seishinbyou> or kqemu
[01:02] <markie> pag:  thanks
[01:02] <minty> how do i mount  my windows partition
[01:02] <Fahuadai> franky: try removing that line
[01:02] <franky> how???
[01:02] <seishinbyou> Is it NTFS?
[01:02] <_4strO> franky: then look in your sourcelists at line 45, 46 :p
[01:03] <minty> yas i believe so
[01:03] <ahmadrovick> yes iam searcing with google, but i cant find one
[01:03] <_4strO> franky: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <seishinbyou> you might need to get the ntfstools first
[01:03] <minty> ??
[01:03] <Fahuadai> you have a terminal open at sudo nano /etd/apt/sources.list ?
[01:03] <seishinbyou> I'm a bit fuzzy on that; it is googleable, though
[01:03] <markie> which program can i better use for using 3d desktop ?
[01:03] <minty> klkl
[01:03] <minty> beryl
[01:03] <Fahuadai> etc/apt/source.list^
[01:04] <Fahuadai> use the arrow keys to move down to line 45/46  and delete the repository http://webcvs.....
[01:05] <franky> thank you very much, i've solved the problem by removing the line
[01:05] <seishinbyou> Has anyone had a Thinkpad run Kubuntu for more than an hour and a half on battery?  It seems a bit short
[01:05] <stoneythegoomba> minty -- there is a how to at tldp.org that covers samba and mounting windows partitions
[01:06] <mcscruff> lo all
[01:06] <mcscruff> ?? kde 4
[01:07] <mcscruff> anyone know what the kde 4 alpha packages are called?
[01:08] <pag> mcscruff, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php <- here are the instructions
[01:08] <mcscruff> ty! :)
[01:09] <ehamberg> Are the packages uploaded? I get this: "Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1/./Packages.gz  404 Not Found" when updating.
[01:10] <Fahuadai> franky: gald to help.
[01:10] <mcscruff> ehamberg, same problem here
[01:11] <pag> ehamberg, iirc you should replace ./ with feisty main
[01:11] <mcscruff> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[01:12] <pag> mcscruff, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.5.php here are the instructions on how to add the key :)
[01:13] <ehamberg> pag: Thanks! :)
[01:14] <stoneythegoomba> looking for kernel options to pass at install to get around kernel panick error
[01:15] <mcscruff> is kde 4 nice
[01:16] <Skrot-> kde 4 is alpha, aka not usale and no, not nice
[01:16] <pag> mcscruff, it's just first alpha.. I'm not even sure if it works ;)
[01:16] <logixoul> mcscruff: wait until oct 23
[01:18] <mcscruff> logixoul, naa, i wanna test the widgets bit
[01:18] <logixoul> ok then; the Oxygen widgetstyle is already pretty mature
[01:19] <logixoul> not sure if it's built by default tho
[01:19] <logixoul> there's videos of it btw.
[01:19] <mcscruff> isnt it ment to support osx widgets too?
[01:19] <logixoul> aah.
[01:19] <logixoul> you mean widgets as in superkaramba widgets.
[01:20] <mcscruff> :)
[01:20] <logixoul> no, the rumors of Dashboard compatibility have been highly exagerrated.
[01:20] <mcscruff> i want to test eye candy for when windows lover use my lappy
[01:20] <mcscruff> for my personal use i use xfce
[01:21] <logixoul> currently KDE 3 Superkaramba widgets mostly work in the KDE4 version, too. Also, you can now write them in Ruby, too. That's all for now.
[01:21] <mcscruff> i do have 1 thing i dont like about kde tho
[01:22] <mcscruff> the amount of crap apps that come with the defualt install
[01:25] <s330d3r> is it possible to mount a ntfs usb drive with linux?  I have looked in google, and I can figure out how to edit fstab and/or manually do it, but when I try to do it, there is nothing in the folder.
[01:25] <mcscruff> yes
[01:25] <mcscruff> i thought it did it auto
[01:26] <s330d3r> hmmm... I am using 7.04 and it trys the auto, but nothing comes up on my desktop.
[01:26] <mcscruff> brb, need to try kde
[01:26] <s330d3r> k
[01:28] <deichgraf> moin
[01:29] <crazy_bus> I've got a computer hooked up to a wireless router.  Is there anyway I can use this to transfer files to another computer which has a wireless card?
[01:30] <seishinbyou> yes
[01:30] <seishinbyou> run sshd and use sftp/scp to transfer your files
[01:30] <seishinbyou> I have a winxp box at home and I use winscp to send files to my xubuntu laptop over wireless as long as the files aren't too large
[01:31] <jujimufu> !beryl
[01:31] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:36] <rkvirani> hrm...
[01:36] <rkvirani> ooh Im still logged in :D
[01:36] <rkvirani> Anyone know of a gui way to partition and format a disk?
[01:37] <fdoving> rkvirani: gparted is nice.
[01:37] <rkvirani> fdoving: cool I will check it out
[01:37] <ubunturos> rkvirani: or QParted that comes with Kubuntu 6.06
[01:37] <rkvirani> Qparted eh
[01:37] <rkvirani> where is it in the menu :D
[01:37] <rkvirani> (btw the KDE menus are friggin bloated)
[01:37] <fdoving> rkvirani, ubunturos: i'd recommend gparted, qparted isn't as up2date as gparted.
[01:38] <rkvirani> gparted it is
[01:38] <rkvirani> .. show me how to do the gui way :D
[01:38] <ubunturos> fdoving: oh, ok
[01:38] <ubunturos> rkvirani: you should find how-to's on that on the internet,
[01:38] <rkvirani> :D
[01:38] <fdoving> rkvirani: open Adept Manager, then search for and install 'gparted'
[01:38] <ubunturos> rkvirani: or http://www.howtoforge.com
[01:38] <ubunturos> should help
[01:38] <fdoving> rkvirani: after doing that you'll find it in the menus.
[01:39] <s330d3r> anyone have any idea why my usb drive (ntfs) is not being assigned a folder in 7.04?
[01:39] <ubunturos> s330d3r: may be it isn't mounted with appropriate params
[01:39] <rkvirani> Im looking for adept
[01:39] <rkvirani> s330d3r: check dmesg
[01:39] <s330d3r> it sees it and asks what I want to do, but it never opens in a window.
[01:39] <ubunturos> s330d3r:  :-?
[01:40] <fdoving> s330d3r: did you do antyhing apart from plugging it in?
[01:40] <rkvirani> lol I dont have adept :D
[01:41] <fdoving> rkvirani: what distro are you on?
[01:41] <rkvirani> ubuntu D
[01:41] <s330d3r> fdoving: nope
[01:42] <rkvirani> so does the ubuntu team focus more on ubuntu or kubuntu
[01:43] <rkvirani> I read something about shuttleworth running kubuntu all the time
[01:43] <arriesp> hi
[01:43] <_4strO> yop
[01:43] <fdoving> s330d3r: you need to run the ntfsconfig utility to make an fstab entry for it. pmount doesn't support ntfs-3g directly.
[01:43] <s330d3r> dmesg tells me that it is sdb and is generic sg2 type 0 (120034 MB)
[01:43] <fdoving> s330d3r: you're on 7.04 right?
[01:43] <s330d3r> yes
[01:44] <fdoving> s330d3r: kmenu -> run command 'kdesu ntfs-config'
[01:44] <fdoving> s330d3r: if it doesn't start, you probably don't have ntfs-config installed, then open adept and install it. packagename is 'ntfs-config'
[01:44] <rkvirani> ewww ntfs
[01:47] <jujimufu> are the beryl debs in one of the official/standard sources.list repos, or do I have to add new ones?
[01:48] <flaccid> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BerylOnFeisty
[01:48] <crazy_bus> is there anyway to use remote places in kde or another program to automaticaly transfer files via the wireless router?
[01:49] <ubunturos> crazy_bus: if you are connected, use scp
[01:49] <flaccid> !samba
[01:49] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:49] <flaccid> ?
[01:49] <flaccid> smb:// in konq?
[01:50] <ubunturos> flaccid: yes, it can be
[01:50] <s330d3r> fdoving... that didn't seem to do anything
[01:50] <flaccid> i was talking to crazy_bus
[01:50] <fdoving> s330d3r: did you answer a bunch of questions?
[01:50] <fdoving> s330d3r: do you have ntfs-config package installed?
[01:51] <crazy_bus> smb:// just takes me to '/'
[01:51] <flaccid> try smb:/
[01:51] <s330d3r> fdoving:  I installed ntfs-config and then ran it, it popped up a window asking if I wanted to enable write support on external drives and I checkt that off...
[01:51] <fdoving> s330d3r: so you don't want to write?
[01:51] <crazy_bus> Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall.
[01:51] <flaccid> you need to configure smb
[01:52] <s330d3r> fdoving: it was deselected, I selected it, yes I want to write
[01:52] <fdoving> s330d3r: try to run it again. it should ask more questions.
[01:52] <crazy_bus> how do I configure smb?
[01:53] <flaccid> !smb
[01:53] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:53] <crazy_bus> I should mention that I'
[01:53] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to share between two kubuntu's.  And not windows
[01:53] <blady> can anybody help me? how to extend man database? I mean, that I don't have for example definition of man bind etc.
[01:53] <flaccid> put them on the same workgroup
[01:54] <flaccid> !bind
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <flaccid> !bind9
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bind9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <s330d3r> fdoving: this is what the about page says on ntfs-config:  Enable/disable NTFS write support with one click.
[01:54] <s330d3r> fdoving: and that is all it is asking me
[01:54] <flaccid> blady: what do you want to do
[01:54] <fdoving> s330d3r: it should be more, hang on, i'll try to figure it out.
[01:55] <jink_> hi
[01:55] <flaccid> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BerylOnFeisty
[01:55] <flaccid> oops
[01:55] <flaccid> blady: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[01:56] <blady> flaccid: i want my man, to show bind documentation after i type in terminal "man bind"
[01:56] <jink_> anybody know how to install opera
[01:56] <jink_> HOW SHOULD I INSTALL OPERA
[01:56] <flaccid> its man named
[01:56] <jink_> I HAVE ALREADY DONWLOADED FILE
[01:56] <fdoving> !opera | jink_
[01:56] <ubotu> jink_: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[01:56] <flaccid> jink_: don't shout
[01:56] <LjL> !caps
[01:56] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:56] <jink_> ok
[01:56] <jink_> sorry
[01:56] <jink_> pal
[01:57] <jink_> but im trying to do dat for many hours now and its not happening
[01:57] <LjL> jink_: well, explain the problem
[01:57] <jink_> i have downloaded the file from opera site
[01:57] <root> caoss
[01:58] <LjL> jink_: which filename is that?
[01:58] <jink_> and its :  opera-9.20-20070409.6-shared-qt.i386-en.tar.gz
[01:58] <jink_> so i dont know how to install this
[01:58] <flaccid> jink_: follow the link from ubotu
[01:58] <LjL> jink_, you got the wrong file.
[01:58] <flaccid> jink_: use the package instead
[01:58] <LjL> get the Ubuntu package.
[01:58] <flaccid> follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[01:59] <jink_> flaccid: should i donwload from there and then wats the method to install it
[01:59] <LjL>  Locate the .deb package and double click on it to start the Gdebi .deb installer. 
[01:59] <LjL> but since we don't have gdebi in Kubuntu (unless you've got GNOME too), use dpkg
[02:00] <LjL>  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  from the command line
[02:00] <fdoving> or, rightclick -> kubuntu menu -> install.
[02:00] <LjL> i suppose
[02:00] <flaccid> jink_: read the link
[02:00] <blady> flaccid: what package are related with man? "bind" was just the example, I won't have permament connection to net, so I need full man on hdd
[02:00] <jink_> ok
[02:00] <flaccid> blady: a full man for what?
[02:01] <jink_> thank
[02:01] <jink_> willl try out
[02:01] <LjL> blady: manpages usually get installed by the relevant package.
[02:01] <jink_> as soon as the download finishes
[02:01] <LjL> the one big exception is manpages-dev
[02:01] <jink_> hey buddy one more problem
[02:02] <Graham> Morning, does anybody know how to change the aspect ratio in Kaffine?
[02:02] <jink_> i have downloaded a theme frm look-kde and i donw have any idea how to install it i tried from kcontrol but not happening
[02:02] <blady> flaccid: generaly man, my problem is that: i wrote in terminal "man bind" "man opendir" and man response was that it doesn't know these function
[02:03] <flaccid> blady: thats because those man pages dont exist
[02:03] <blady> flaccid: i need it for support in writing in C
[02:03] <LjL> blady, i just told you, manpages-dev
[02:03] <jink_> graham: start kaffeine
[02:03] <LjL> flaccid: (they do)
[02:03] <Graham> jink_: You're saying it should happen automaticly?
[02:04] <jink_> and over ther select player in video select aspect ratio
[02:04] <flaccid> well not man bind anyway
[02:04] <LjL> flaccid: yes it exists
[02:04] <flaccid> what package
[02:04] <LjL> it doesn't if you don't have manpages-dev installed (third time)
[02:04] <logixoul> how do I enable vesa in grub?
[02:04] <jink_> else when ur video is playing on press f5 f6 f7 f8
[02:05] <flaccid> it doesnt come up for me
[02:05] <LjL> !info manpages-dev
[02:05] <ubotu> manpages-dev: Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development. In component main, is optional. Version 2.39-1 (feisty), package size 1185 kB, installed size 2916 kB
[02:05] <jink_> and see the chang
[02:05] <LjL> flaccid: then you don't have manpages-dev installed (4th)
[02:05] <flaccid> i did
[02:05] <flaccid> shut the fuck up
[02:05] <Graham> jink_: I see what you did there, thanks.
[02:05] <flaccid> 1st time..
[02:05] <blady> flaccid: when u type "man bind" u get right response, i need acces to such man off-line, i guess LjL solved my problem :) thx
[02:05] <jink_> welcome
[02:05] <flaccid> what the fuck
[02:05] <Graham> jink_: If it's on auto... shouldn't it automaticly change to the right one?
[02:06] <Graham> Because it wasn't being 16:9, and I recorded my video in 16:9
[02:06] <jink_> it will select the default aspect ratio
[02:06] <Fahuadai> jink_ in kcontol under the appearance, go to theme manager and import your theme
[02:06] <jink_> fahualdai i tried but its not importing
[02:07] <jink_> its a theme called aqua lookalike mac os x
[02:07] <LjL> blady: also
[02:07] <Graham> jink_: Either than or JVC fucked me in the ass... Iuno
[02:07] <jink_> fahuadai: should i tell in wat format is it
[02:07] <Fahuadai> what's the file type of the theme? .kthc ?
[02:08] <erz-> Is kwin baghira unstabe on mutiverse ?
[02:08] <jink_> hey graham: u can also try out vlc
[02:08] <Graham> vlc?
[02:08] <jink_> vlc player
[02:08] <Fahuadai> !vlc
[02:08] <erz-> !baghira
[02:08] <jink_> download it from add/remove
[02:08] <LjL> blady: if you know which man section the page you want is in (for instance, "bind" is in section 2 because it's a unix call), you can know the path: /usr/share/man/man2/bind.2.gz   in this case
[02:08] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baghira - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <nimble> !codecs
[02:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:08] <jink_> graham u ther?
[02:08] <LjL> blady: if you know the path, you can use apt-file to search for it. "apt-file search bind.2.gz" should suffice
[02:09] <LjL> !apt-file > blady    (blady, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:09] <Graham> jink_: Yes.
[02:09] <Graham> Gimme a moment
[02:09] <jink_> check out vlc its the ultimate plater
[02:09] <LjL> blady: that goes for anything that you don't know the package for
[02:09] <logixoul> How do I enable VESA in GRUB?
[02:09] <s330d3r> fdoving: any luck?
[02:10] <jink_> guys stellerium aint working properly
[02:10] <Graham> jink_: What's so good about it?
[02:11] <fdoving> s330d3r: it should auto-detect devices. was your disk connected when you ran this?
[02:11] <nimble> plays most stuff without installing codecs
[02:11] <Graham> nimble: You mean it comes with codecs?
[02:11] <jink_> well check out for urself u have a wide varity of aspect ratio
[02:11] <Graham> Because typing sudo apt-get install codec_package is such a hassle!
[02:12] <Graham> I'll pass, I'm rather fond of Kaffeine
[02:12] <jink_> anybody knws why stelleruim aint workin at my end
[02:12] <blady> LjL: i've already downloaded and installed manpages-dev, that was wat i meant :D
[02:13] <LjL> blady: sure, was just telling you how you could have found out the right package yourself
[02:13] <LjL> blady: might come useful in the future
[02:13] <blady> thx for help, i am about to love kubuntu and this place :D
[02:16] <s330d3r> fdoving: yes it was
[02:17] <fdoving> s330d3r: then i don't know, i remember i had some problems making it appear myself, you could try to ask in #ubuntu
[02:18] <_4strO> !radeon
[02:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:42] <PhinnFort> i'm having some trouble with getting the latest kde4 packages
[02:43] <PhinnFort> i've added "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1/ ./" to my sources list
[02:43] <PhinnFort> but i get the following:
[02:43] <PhinnFort> Err http://kubuntu.org ./ Packages
[02:43] <PhinnFort>   404 Not Found
[02:43] <PhinnFort> when apt-get updating
[02:44] <pag> PhinnFort, replace ./ with feisty main
[02:44] <PhinnFort> ok
[02:44] <PhinnFort> thanks
[02:45] <PhinnFort> worked like a charm;)'
[02:45] <PhinnFort> someone should update this: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php
[02:45] <BluesKaj> is kde4 kubuntu-version dependent ?
[02:46] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: i think it's only available for feisty
[02:46] <BluesKaj> makes an unstable OS even moreso :)
[02:46] <miene> Hello @ all, can somebody please help me with my corrupted OSS-sound?
[02:46] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:47] <PhinnFort> miene: why do you use OSS?
[02:47] <PhinnFort> if there are alsa-drivers available for your card, you should use alsa instead
[02:48] <miene> I use OSS for some wine-programs because ALSA wasnt working (wine problem). A wine-geek found out, that my lack of sound in wine using OSS instead doesnt work because my OSS-server actually doesnt... i tried amarok using OSS, no sound
[02:49] <minty> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unaable)
[02:49] <minty> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another ess using it?
[02:49] <minty> wot does that mean
[02:49] <PhinnFort> minty: try closing all other package programs
[02:49] <minty> got ya
[02:49] <minty> thnx
[02:49] <PhinnFort> miene: i think you maybe need to load an OSS emulation module
[02:50] <miene> how do i do that PhinnFort?
[02:50] <PhinnFort> !oss
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <miene> :-)
[02:50] <miene> okay
[02:50] <miene> thx
[02:50] <PhinnFort> miene: i'm not really sure, but try loading "sudo modprobe snd-pcm-oss"
[02:51] <PhinnFort> and "sudo modprobe snd-mixer-oss"
[02:51] <miene> okay i try now
[02:51] <PhinnFort> and "sudo modprobe snd-seq-oss"
[02:51] <BluesKaj> don't understand why ppl use wine ..whynot just keep the windows partitrion ?
[02:51] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: because then you need a windows cd-key?
[02:51] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: I use wine to play Fallout 2
[02:51] <BluesKaj> hehe
[02:51] <PhinnFort> ;)
[02:52] <miene> PhinnFort: - i did ur commands - though still no sound
[02:52] <BluesKaj> there's lotsa those keys available PhinnFort
[02:52] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: and I really don't care to use several gigabytes and time just to play it
[02:52] <Dr_willis> heh :) vmware+windows95  there we go!
[02:52] <BluesKaj> I guess ppl need their games ..
[02:52] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: works perfectly in wine, so no reason to do more work
[02:53] <PhinnFort> !find oss
[02:53] <ubotu> Found: libsdl1.2debian-oss, alsa-oss, alsaplayer-oss, amiga-fdisk-cross, apt-cross (and 48 others)
[02:53] <PhinnFort> !info alsa-oss
[02:53] <ubotu> alsa-oss: ALSA wrapper for OSS applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12-1 (feisty), package size 50 kB, installed size 216 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)
[02:53] <PhinnFort> miene: did you catch that?
[02:53] <PhinnFort> miene: try sudo aptitude install alsa-oss
[02:53] <miene> should i install those packages all?
[02:54] <PhinnFort> only alsa-oss
[02:54] <miene> i think i already have thaat... hang on..
[02:54] <miene> yes already installed
[02:54] <PhinnFort> and probably try "sudo rmmod snd-seq-oss" "sudo rmmod snd-mixer-oss" and "sudo rmmod snd-pcm-oss"
[02:55] <PhinnFort> miene: can you paste the output of "modprobe -l | grep oss" in #flood
[02:55] <PhinnFort> ?
[02:55] <miene> Oh first this:
[02:55] <miene> sudo rmmod snd-mixer-oss
[02:55] <miene> ERROR: Module snd_mixer_oss is in use by snd_pcm_oss
[02:56] <PhinnFort> oh, you must take them in the right order
[02:56] <PhinnFort> do "sudo rmmod snd-pcm-oss" first
[02:57] <miene> than i get this: ERROR: Module snd_pcm_oss does not exist in /proc/modules
[02:57] <miene> ..ok i must have removed it earlyer with that command.. clear
[02:57] <PhinnFort> miene: just ignore it then
[02:57] <PhinnFort> miene: but can you paste that stuff into #flood
[02:57] <PhinnFort> ?
[02:57] <vendetta> Hello
[02:58] <PhinnFort> hi
[02:58] <PhinnFort> !hi | vendetta
[02:58] <ubotu> vendetta: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:58] <denechtew> Hello
[02:58] <PhinnFort> !hi | denechtew
[02:58] <ubotu> denechtew: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:58] <vendetta> I've got a problem with the installation of Kubuntu 7.04
[02:58] <PhinnFort> vendetta: what kind of problem?
[02:58] <denechtew> a boot problem
[02:58] <vendetta> no
[02:58] <denechtew> :p
[02:59] <miene> ok PhinnFort, u wanted the output from modprobe -l | grep oss right? - buts a lot can i post it here?
[02:59] <PhinnFort> miene: go to the #flood channel and post it there
[02:59] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | miene
[02:59] <ubotu> miene: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:59] <Vincent_k> why cant I print pdf files from acroread
[02:59] <vendetta> I made a new partion with partion magic, from 10 Gb, but when I want to install Kubuntu I don't know how to select that partition to install Kubuntu on
[03:00] <denechtew> I should think place the fileso n the disc
[03:00] <denechtew> and set in bios to boot fromthat disc
[03:00] <_4strO> vendetta: just remove you partition an let kubuntu do this for you
[03:00] <esben> Vincent_k: It is easier from kpdf, by it should work from acroread  too. Use "kprinter" as the printer, that usually does the trick
[03:01] <Vincent_k> I.ll try
[03:02] <miene> I have posted it PhinnFort
[03:02] <BluesKaj> vendetta, click on the partiton and choose edit , it has to be formatted to ext2 or ext3
[03:02] <PhinnFort> miene: thank you
[03:02] <Vincent_k> well actually its aspx files that gives me headake
[03:02] <vendetta> ok, and is that the only thing I have to do?
[03:02] <miene> :-D
[03:02] <BluesKaj> partiton magic should be banned , it's unstable and dangerous
[03:03] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  and overpriced
[03:03] <Vincent_k> I'm trying to print shipment documents from dhl's site
[03:03] <Dr_willis> then again - that just described most pc's and  things that exisyt in the world
[03:03] <BluesKaj> right Dr_willis
[03:03] <BluesKaj> vendetta, are you using the kubuntu cd ?
[03:04] <vendetta> I downloaded the image and burned it on a cd
[03:04] <PhinnFort> miene: try to run the wine command prefixed with "aoss"
[03:04] <PhinnFort> miene: like "aoss wine filename.exe"
[03:04] <miene> ok i do now PhinnFort, thx
[03:04] <BluesKaj> ok vendetta, then use the 'manual partition' option
[03:05] <vendetta> ok
[03:05] <KrAmMeR> how do i get my window manager to take focus when I click on any part of a certain window, and not the top toolbar?
[03:05] <vendetta> maybe It's handy to know I wanne dual boot with xp
[03:05] <KrAmMeR> or just the top toolbar
[03:05] <miene> still no sound PhinnFort
[03:05] <PhinnFort> KrAmMeR: try alt+f2, "kcontrol" hit enter and search for "window behaviour"
[03:06] <PhinnFort> miene: have you set wine to use oss?
[03:06] <PhinnFort> miene: try "aoss wineconfig"
[03:06] <BluesKaj> that's what i figured vendetta , using the manual option gives you a way to save your windows partition
[03:06] <miene> oh i see a change in my winecfg, PhinnFort, after running that command... i check OSS again and try that command again..
[03:07] <KrAmMeR> hmmm
[03:07] <PhinnFort> KrAmMeR: if what you're looking for isn't there, try in #kde
[03:07] <KrAmMeR> PhinnFort: ok thanks
[03:08] <PhinnFort> np
[03:08] <miene> PhinnFort: still nothing :-/
[03:08] <PhinnFort> KrAmMeR: most (if not all) kde devs hang out there
[03:08] <PhinnFort> miene: i suspect there's a problem with your wine
[03:08] <miene> omg lol
[03:08] <miene> damn
[03:09] <miene> yes maybe i should reinstall or something
[03:09] <PhinnFort> ;)
[03:09] <miene> thx a lot PhinnFort for ur help :-)
[03:09] <PhinnFort> miene: no need to, just try to rename the ".wine" folder in your home
[03:09] <PhinnFort> miene: then try to run it again
[03:09] <miene> ok i'll try that
[03:10] <PhinnFort> call it just "wine" without the dot, for example
[03:11] <erz-> i try to customize my deskbar ... and i dont find what i'm looking for ... how can i customize it ?
[03:11] <PhinnFort> erz-: right click on it and configure
[03:12] <erz-> i'm using beryl =x
[03:12] <PhinnFort> erz-: and...?
[03:13] <erz-> PhinnFort: it doestn matter so :D
[03:13] <PhinnFort> ;)
[03:13] <Bullines> Hi!  I just installed Kubuntu (Feisty) and it looks great.  I was wondering how I could increase my display resolution beyond 1024x768.
[03:14] <miene> PhinnFort: Games runs, but still no sound :-(
[03:14] <stdin> !resolution
[03:14] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:14] <manicman> hi
[03:14] <seishinbyou> good evening
[03:14] <PhinnFort> Bullines: if you feel daring, you could just move the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and then it should configure itself for optimal resolution
[03:15] <vendetta> can somebody help me with my problem plz?
[03:15] <manicman> i just startet kubuntu from live cd and miss the icon "install kubuntu" on my desktop. is there any way to install kubuntu another way?
[03:15] <dac_> uboto,how do I change my nick?
[03:15] <stdin> dac_: /nick NewNick
[03:15] <erz-> PhinnFort: works fine, dunno why i dont find it before ... i was looking about themes, kwin, emerald, beryl, vrunner, eveything is getting me crazy ... =))))
[03:15] <PhinnFort> erz-: :P
[03:15] <dac_> ok ty
[03:16] <PhinnFort> np
[03:16] <Bullines> I have an nVIDIA card and 'sudo nvidia-settings' seems to have done the trick.  Thanks :)
[03:17] <erz-> PhinnFort: How can i be sure hardware accel is on with my ati card ( it seems glexgears is not a benchmark :pppp )
[03:17] <vendetta>  I made a new partion with partion magic, from 10 Gb, but when I want to install Kubuntu I don't know how to select that partition to install Kubuntu on
[03:17] <vendetta> I always gave an error
[03:17] <miene> PhinnFort: when my oss is completely not working, then i think it wont in  wine too. How can i  get it to work in general?
[03:21] <PhinnFort> erz-: glxinfo
[03:21] <PhinnFort> miene: i would avoid oss at all cost, but that's just me
[03:21] <PhinnFort> miene: you shouldn't have to use it
[03:22] <miene> yes ur surly right. i was just wondering why it suddently didnt work anymore. - Thx for ur help, I'll wait for the next wine release for the ALSA fix i guess :-)
[03:22] <erz-> direct rendering: Yes sounds good : D
[03:22] <PhinnFort> erz-: ;)
[03:22] <PhinnFort> erz-: what kind of video card do you have?
[03:22] <PhinnFort> miene: what game is it that you're having trouble with?
[03:22] <miene> Guild wars
[03:22] <erz-> R350 M10 Mobility
[03:23] <PhinnFort> erz-: are you using the proprietary ATi driver or the one that comes with kubuntu?
[03:24] <erz-> i thinks its free which comes with kubuntu
[03:24] <PhinnFort> erz-: then you're good;)
[03:24] <lontra> why is the kubuntu logo on everything?  my kmenu sidebar, my systems icon, konqueoror's background, amarok ... it's a bit of an overkill
[03:24] <PhinnFort> :P
[03:25] <PhinnFort> lontra: it's a clever marketing trick
[03:25] <erz-> ^^
[03:25] <miene> lol
[03:25] <lontra> PhinnFort: you don't find it annoying?
[03:25] <seishinbyou> Fortunately it can all be changed
[03:25] <PhinnFort> lontra: no
[03:25] <lontra> seishinbyou: yes fortunately
[03:25] <PhinnFort> lontra: but I don't have it all over, since my /home is from a gentoo install, with some different than standard-kubuntu settings
[03:25] <PhinnFort> ;)
[03:26] <PhinnFort> miene: what happens if you try to use alsa?
[03:26] <lontra> ubuntu isn't like this is it?
[03:26] <seishinbyou> Ubuntu is brown
[03:26] <seishinbyou> all brown
[03:26] <seishinbyou> But not poo brown like the Zune
[03:26] <lontra> i mean with the branding everywhere
[03:26] <PhinnFort> lontra: well, have you tried Windows recently?
[03:26] <PhinnFort> i dare you to count the times you see "microsoft" during a normal day
[03:26] <lontra> PhinnFort: i don't want to run windows ... just kde :)
[03:26] <PhinnFort> ;)
[03:27] <seishinbyou> It's really not so bad.  Just check out kde-look.org and *poof*
[03:27] <seishinbyou> less plasticy-look
[03:27] <erz-> whats baghira exactly ? :D
[03:27] <lontra> seishinbyou: i can get read the sidebar too right?
[03:27] <PhinnFort> erz-: a buggy widget theme
[03:27] <PhinnFort> ;)
[03:27] <PhinnFort> erz-: mac os x look-a-like
[03:28] <lontra> s read/rid
[03:28] <erz-> thats why apt-get tell me i ask for impossible thing when tried to install it
[03:28] <seishinbyou> sidebar in...?
[03:28] <lontra> i like domino ... but i can't ever make it look nices
[03:28] <lontra> seishinbyou: in the kmenu
[03:28] <erz-> apt-get is a ghost in each hardware linux, it gonna take control =)))))
[03:28] <seishinbyou> apt-get moo
[03:29] <seishinbyou> At least it is better than rpms
[03:29] <seishinbyou> Fortunately, alien can convert them to .deb
[03:29] <lontra> rpms are not as bad as they use to be ... the new mandriva is pretty snappy and when i ran opensuse i never had dependency hell like the old days of fedora
[03:29] <erz-> trying to give a well look to my amarok trough kde theme ... its hard ^ ^
[03:30] <vendetta> hello
[03:30] <vendetta> do I really need a swap disk?
[03:30] <denechtew> hello
[03:30] <lontra> vendetta: yup
[03:31] <denechtew> yes
[03:31] <miene> PhinnFort: then wine/guildwars freezes and i get a whole lot of fixme's. - but if i run guildwars with the -dsound switch it works.. but no sound and a lot of fixme's. Thats supposed to be a wine problem.
[03:31] <PhinnFort> miene: doesn't sound too good...
[03:31] <Fahuadai> vendetta: aim for 2 times your RAM for swap
[03:31] <Bullines> Hi!  I'm trying to install VMware Server based on this guide:
[03:31] <Bullines> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_fawn_vmware_server_howto
[03:31] <vendetta> do I need to make a new partition for that or can I just use my HD where windows is on for that?
[03:31] <miene> PhinnFort: but if i click the ALSA tab in winecfg i get the following errors... look in the flood-room pls
[03:32] <seishinbyou> Bullines: and?
[03:32] <Bullines> But when I run 'sudo vmware-install.pl', I get a "command not found" error.
[03:32] <seishinbyou> sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[03:32] <seishinbyou> assuming you are in the right directory
[03:33] <Bullines> seishinbyou:  That's the ticket.  Thanks :)
[03:33] <blackb0x> Hi!
[03:33] <PhinnFort> miene: sorry i can't help you with this:(
[03:33] <miene> PhinnFort: nah its ok! Thank u very much for ur help till here ;-)
[03:33] <miene> Ill find a way
[03:34] <schizzzee> weeeeeeeeeee
[03:35] <vendetta> how big is Kubuntu?
[03:35] <lontra> bigger than a bread basket
[03:35] <erz-> ^^
[03:35] <vendetta> I mean the data,
[03:35] <lontra> vendetta: ~2 GB
[03:35] <lontra> maybe a little mroe
[03:36] <vendetta> sorry can't explain very good, I'm not english
[03:36] <erz-> looking about some diskspace & a briht theme for me pink amarok =)
[03:36] <lontra> vendetta: no you had a good question ... but i was being a smart ass :)
[03:36] <vendetta> and how big does my swap disk has to be?
[03:36] <seishinbyou> !japanese
[03:36] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[03:36] <lontra> vendetta: how much RAM do you have?
[03:36] <vendetta> 1 gig
[03:37] <vendetta> 1Gb
[03:37] <lontra> vendetta: between 1.5-2 GB would be my recommendation
[03:37] <vendetta> ok, thanks ^^
[03:37] <erz-> thats why my mem is full 768 MB of Ram : /
[03:39] <HarleyQuine> hello
[03:39] <ubunturos> HarleyQuine: hello!
[03:39] <HarleyQuine> I was wondering whether someone could help me out with a disk mounting problem
[03:40] <ubunturos> HarleyQuine: post your problem, someone should
[03:41] <HarleyQuine> ok well since I've installed kubuntu I haven't been able to access my fat32 partition. This morning I resized and made another fat32 partition to store my files in, but neither of them can be mounted
[03:41] <HarleyQuine> first error was mount: can't find /mnt/blah in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab but after adding them there it's still not working, coming up with some permission errors
[03:42] <erz-> show you fstab
[03:42] <BluesKaj> vendetta, if you are trying to savew as much diskspace as possible for data , a swap file of 1gig is plenty
[03:42] <ubunturos> HarleyQuine: paste fstab in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:42] <trym> i have a mdadm array with "State : active, degraded, Not Started" - i cant mount it, and when I try to start it it says input/output error. One drive is missing from it, but appears in /proc/partitions. Can anyone assist me in trying to mount the array?
[03:43] <BluesKaj> HarleyQuine, why fat32 ?
[03:43] <HarleyQuine> ok it's sent there
[03:43] <HarleyQuine> cos I know that ntfs doesn't work
[03:44] <HarleyQuine> and also cos I wanted a file system that'll work with both linux and windows to store my files
[03:44] <ubunturos> HarleyQuine: it does, but there's no default rw-access, only read only access
[03:44] <BluesKaj> whynot ntfs, then you can acccess /eread/write with ntfs-3g and ntfs-config
[03:44] <ubunturos> HarleyQuine: ntfs-3g will allow you to write and read
[03:45] <ubunturos> HarleyQuine: there must be a link to your paste, post that as well
[03:45] <flake> how do I install a new icon theme, I tried browsing to the folder, now what..
[03:45] <HarleyQuine> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20490/
[03:45] <HarleyQuine> an
[03:45] <HarleyQuine> sorry
[03:45] <spawn57>  flake, use kcontrol to install and load the new icon themee
[03:46] <spawn57> HarleyQuine: ntfs-3g works fine, it's slow for big files though.
[03:46] <flake> brb
[03:47] <HarleyQuine> I've never heard of that file system before, I'll have to change the windows partition too yes?
[03:47] <flake> I have a control center, not a kcontrol
[03:47] <ubunturos> flake: you can type kcontrol in Run Dialog box, for Control Center
[03:47] <spawn57> HarleyQuine:  naw it's a driver that lets you read and write to ntfs partitions
[03:48] <flake> and I select theme manager and browse to the folder I extracted the icon theme into
[03:48] <spawn57> flake: system settings -> appearance -> icons
[03:48] <HarleyQuine> so fat32 won't work at all then?
[03:48] <ubunturos> HarleyQuine: fat32 should work without any tweaks
[03:48] <spawn57> HarleyQuine: it will, you missed out the permissions mapping
[03:49] <spawn57> HarleyQuine: you shoudl be able to read and write as root atm, but you need to mount fat32 with the umask, uid and gid options to map it to the user
[03:49] <flake> does the icon file need to be non-extracted?  or what do I point to in the folder, what file?
[03:49] <flake> in 32x32 folder there's an application folder with a bunch of .png's in it
[03:50] <spawn57> flake: did you downlaod the tar ball ( .tar.gz ) or do you just have one icon?
[03:50] <HarleyQuine> I wish I knew what that meant, but I haven't a clue ;) hate to be a noob but could you explain more?
[03:50] <spawn57> HarleyQuine: sure, do you know what file permissions/acls are?
[03:50] <flake> downloaded the tar ball
[03:51] <spawn57> flake: what icon theme may I ask?
[03:51] <HarleyQuine> file permissions yes, acls nope
[03:51] <flake> crystal diamond 2.6
[03:51] <vendetta> can I make new partitions with the Kubuntu install?
[03:52] <spawn57> flake: gimme a sec
[03:52] <spawn57> HarleyQuine: well, fat32 has no file permissions, so when you moutn the file system on linux, you specify what file permissions all the directorys and files will have by default
[03:53] <erz-> ahem, is it possible to increase size of kubuntu partition ?
[03:53] <HarleyQuine> ok am with you so far, and where do I do that?
[03:53] <flake> I got it, had to point to the tar ball
[03:54] <spawn57> in your fstab, you see the part where you have "defaults, user"
[03:54] <HarleyQuine> yup
[03:54] <spawn57> HarleyQuine: you're going to need to add a few more options in there
[03:55] <spawn57> HarleyQuine: main one is umask, gid and uid
[03:56] <HarleyQuine> ok am googling config instructions
[03:56] <BluesKaj> erz, yes , if you use GParted Live CD partition editor
[03:56] <spawn57> HarleyQuine: uid is your user id, look up you're username in /etc/passwd to get your uid numbe that way all the files in the fat32 filesystem will be owned by you
[03:57] <spawn57> HarleyQuine: ah just use this, umask=007, gid = 100, uid=1000
[03:57] <erz-> BluesKaj: my cd drive is dead : /
[03:58] <spawn57> i think your id should be 1000 by default, users is 100, ...umask=007 will set all files readable and writeable to you and all the users in the group users
[03:58] <BluesKaj> bummer erz
[03:59] <BluesKaj> erz, you can try qtparted but i"ve never tried it
[03:59] <HarleyQuine> ok, am still with ya.. where's the right mount point for partitions? it says that my /media/hd1 doesn't exist so is there a right place for it?
[04:00] <spawn57> are you using edgy?
[04:01] <erz-> BluesKaj: thx i will take a look =)
[04:01] <BluesKaj> erz, there migt be a way to do it with a USB thumbdrive
[04:01] <erz-> hum
[04:02] <spawn57> HarleyQuine: just create folder using mkdir /media/hd1  ..it should be named hda1 since that's what the device node is named (/dev/hda1)
[04:02] <erz-> why not i need to format a fat32 part in ext3 or the software give diskspace by itself :pppp
[04:03] <HarleyQuine> okey dokey
[04:06] <HarleyQuine> hehehe also had the wrong filesystem type.. what a trip.. now it's working, thanks very much :)
[04:06] <spawn57> haha
[04:06] <spawn57> np man
[04:06] <spawn57> what fs type is it?
[04:07] <HarleyQuine> vfat
[04:08] <lontra> !beryl
[04:08] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:08] <flake> if/when a new kde comes out and I update, will it overwrite my current themes?  Likewise if I upgraded from edgy to fiesty, would that kill my themes?
[04:08] <flake> btw i'm already fiesty, just curious
[04:08] <flake> and if ubuntu is a distro, what are edgy / fiesty called?
[04:09] <flake> kde / gnome / etc I call gui's
[04:09] <seishinbyou> different releases of the distro
[04:10] <ubunturos> flake: an update to the next version, shouldn't ideally kill your themes, but a fresh install would
[04:10] <erz-> !codecs
[04:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:10] <_4strO> flake: lsb_release -a
[04:10] <ubunturos> upgrade*
[04:10] <flake> no lsb modules are available,  ubuntu 7.04  feisty
[04:10] <_4strO> flake: actually "feisty" or "edgy" are codenames
[04:11] <flake> ok
[04:11] <_4strO> 7.04 is the Release
[04:12] <_4strO> kde and gnome are some desktop environement
[04:13] <cuny> and not the lightest...
[04:13] <_4strO> :p
[04:15] <seishinbyou> xfce is nice now
[04:18] <vendetta> I'm now making another partition for my swap files
[04:18] <HarleyQuine> if I don't want to use konqueror as my windows manager what other options do I have?
[04:18] <nimble> konqueror isnt a window manager
[04:18] <vendetta> I now have 10Gb for Kubuntu and 1Gb swap disk
[04:18] <HarleyQuine> ok as a what-dya-macall-it then ;)
[04:18] <nimble> do you mean file browser?
[04:18] <vendetta> and how do I need to set them?
[04:19] <_buz> vendetta: 10G seems about right
[04:19] <HarleyQuine> yah that'd be the one
[04:19] <BluesKaj> good vendetta
[04:19] <nimble> well theres gnomes, nautilus or something
[04:19] <BluesKaj> vendetta, how large is your windows partition ?
[04:20] <_buz> what provides the volume onscreen display?
[04:20] <nimble> adept manager brings up claw4 as well
[04:20] <nimble> and mentions xffm and rox
[04:20] <_4strO> or thunar
[04:21] <_4strO> but konqueror just fine
[04:21] <vendetta> I have 2 hard disks, C and D. I took 10Gb from the D for a new partition for Kubuntu. NOw I also took 1Gb from the D for my swap
[04:21] <vendetta> The total of C and D is 100Gb
[04:21] <_4strO> with konqueror you can do manythings
[04:21] <HarleyQuine> true, but I like simple
[04:21] <HarleyQuine> simple minds like simple things ;P
[04:22] <_4strO> HarleyQuine: you can configure it to look "simple"
[04:22] <_4strO> ;)
[04:22] <cuny> I agree XFCE fits well most needs
[04:23] <BluesKaj> vendetta, is 10g the max for kubuntu or is that going to be your /home partition?
[04:23] <_4strO> and isnt it easyer to have one program to, browse internet, filesystem, ftp, ..., display galleries photo, text files, music, video, ... than have on programme for each action ?
[04:24] <_4strO> oups sorry for my bad english (many mistakes above)
[04:24] <HarleyQuine> possibly.. but it scares me
[04:25] <_4strO> :p
[04:30] <vendetta> what do you mean with /home partition?
[04:31] <vendetta> I'm going to try to install it again
[04:31] <vendetta> Bye
[04:31] <nimble> the partition /home points to?
[04:32] <_4strO> vendetta: why just use de auto partition ?
[04:33] <BluesKaj> _4strO, he wants to preserve his windows partition
[04:33] <_4strO> BluesKaj: nevermind, he can use only the free space ;)
[04:34] <BluesKaj> he's gonna find out that 10G isn't enuff
[04:34] <BluesKaj> in a week or 2 :)
[04:34] <_4strO> BluesKaj: think the best way is to prepare everything on windows for a kubuntu installation
[04:35] <_4strO> i mean create and move data to partitions and create some free space for kubuntu installation
[04:38] <nimble> my current install is only taking 6.3gb and 2gb swap
[04:39] <asa-tyr-forsete> Hey there :)
[04:40] <Mozz27> Hi All
[04:41] <asa-tyr-forsete> I'm sort of new to Linux... I've just installed Kubuntu Feisty Fawn and everything works great :) The only thing I'm wondering is, how to watch tv with my tv card... It is installed (I see /dev/video0) but I don't know how to watch it, and with wich software am I supposed to do it ?
[04:43] <lontra> another converted opensuse -> kubuntu user :)
[04:43] <_4strO> :)
[04:44] <_4strO> asa-tyr-forsete: i dont know about videocard using, but some guys seems to look channels on VLC player
[04:44] <lontra> beryl works so great in kubuntu :)
[04:45] <_4strO> lontra: yes
[04:45] <nimble> beryls too slow for me :(
[04:45] <seishinbyou> depends on your video card, too
[04:45] <lontra> it's just as speedy here as kwin
[04:45] <erz-> is it possible to mount with ntfs-3g a network drive in fstab
[04:46] <nimble> i pretty sure its just because of my poor graphics card and relatively high resolution
[04:46] <seishinbyou> yep.  My old Intel 855GM would choke at anything higher than 800x600
[04:46] <seishinbyou> The ATI in this Thinkpad is doing all right, though
[04:46] <nordland> hi
[04:46] <lontra> he eh
[04:46] <buz> seishinbyou: what ati do you have?
[04:46] <nimble> it was fine when i tried it on some laptop
[04:46] <buz> mine doesnt work with AIGLX at all
[04:47] <buz> and Xgl is a pain
[04:47] <seishinbyou> ATI Mobility Radeon 7500
[04:47] <seishinbyou> Or so the specs say
[04:47] <erz-> is it possible to mount with ntfs-3g a network drive in fstab
[04:47] <buz> ah that one has opensource drivers
[04:47] <seishinbyou> It could all be a huge lie and I am actually running a Trident Oak card
[04:47] <nimble> only thing i found wrong with xgl was the log out options
[04:48] <_4strO> nimble: and the keyboard settings no ?
[04:48] <BluesKaj> yes _4strO , that's whay i suggested he use GParted to resizeand format his ext2/3 partition
[04:48] <nimble> didnt notice anything
[04:48] <nordland> someone german?
[04:48] <lontra> have you guys seen the kore suite on kde-look.org?  it's going to be so nice when it's completed!
[04:48] <_4strO> !de | nordland
[04:48] <BluesKaj> !de
[04:48] <ubotu> nordland: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:49] <nordland> ah thx
[04:49] <_4strO> ;)
[04:49] <_4strO> you can even try in english ;)
[04:49] <Diego> Hello ^
[04:49] <_4strO> yop
[04:50] <Diego> I am with ubuntu 7.04 and i want to use kde interface, how can i change it? :)
[04:50] <buz> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:51] <bjoern__> Hi!
[04:51] <bjoern__> Wie komme ich zu 5.1 Sound? ber Mixer geht es nicht....
[04:51] <bjoern__> Soundchip ist der realtek ALC650
[04:51] <BluesKaj> !de | bjoern__
[04:51] <ubotu> bjoern__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:51] <lontra> anyone know where the oxygen icons are kept??
[04:52] <buz> lontra: in kde's svn
[04:52] <buz> they dont really exist for kde3
[04:52] <lontra> buz: yeah i know but i can cherry pick a few icons from it can't i?
[04:53] <buz> sure, browse the svn repository
[04:54] <lontra> buz: do you know how i can pull in the icons from svn and search locally for them?
[04:54] <ses1959_> questions on updates to loaded software
[04:54] <buz> not really, ask in #kde
[04:55] <lontra> buz: ok thanks
[04:55] <ses1959_> I am using k3b but see there is an update on their web site but feisty does show the update
[04:58] <BluesKaj> ses1959_, normally k3b updates with new kde releases
[05:04] <korobase> I find the knetworkmanager has a bug!
[05:05] <korobase> I use my computer in my company and the in my home,The IP address can't automaticlly change for two diffirent place!
[05:06] <korobase> And I can't get the corrent IP at home for the first boot,I must reboot it.
[05:07] <korobase> Any one know why? Please help me.
[05:08] <buz> do both places have dhcp servers active?
[05:12] <HarleyQuine> ok I've looked everywhere I can think of.. how on earth do I install themes?
[05:12] <n8k99> HarleyQuine: themes for what? from where?
[05:13] <Fahuadai> harleyquine: kde themes?
[05:13] <HarleyQuine> themes for the kde
[05:13] <Fahuadai> kcontrol
[05:13] <HarleyQuine> yah.. I downloaded a tarball thingy, but can't find anywhere
[05:13] <Fahuadai> ok, first find the tarball
[05:13] <HarleyQuine> :D couldn't find kcontrol either in the menus.. just found it with run
[05:14] <Fahuadai> kcontrol is run from terminal.
[05:14] <n8k99> or alt+f2
[05:14] <Fahuadai> not in menu by default. (you can add it if you want)
[05:14] <HarleyQuine> that'd explain it
[05:15] <HarleyQuine> the 'select theme file' hasn't shown the tar ball or any of the files after I'd unzipped it
[05:15] <HarleyQuine> dud theme?
[05:15] <Fahuadai> where you get it from?
[05:15] <n8k99> you don'tneed to unzip
[05:16] <n8k99> you select the tarball as the file to install
[05:16] <HarleyQuine> I got it from.. somewhere.. damn lol
[05:16] <Fahuadai> hehe, nvm.
[05:16] <lontra> !medibuntu
[05:16] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[05:16] <Fahuadai> i was gonna check it myself
[05:16] <HarleyQuine> it's not showing the tar file in the window
[05:17] <Fahuadai> hmmm.... i didn't think kcontrol was restricted to .kthc files.... :S
[05:17] <HarleyQuine> seems to be, fussy little madam it is
[05:19] <Fahuadai> mmmm... excessive sodium :)
[05:19] <HarleyQuine> rightt.. so I guess I can't use that theme then
[05:19] <HarleyQuine> gawd. so many file types so fussy computers
[05:19] <Fahuadai> umm...
[05:19] <Fahuadai> you probably can, but i not know how. i use kthc themes from kde-look.org
[05:20] <HarleyQuine> will check that out, thanks :)
[05:22] <HarleyQuine> domino config file.. this just keeps getting more and more complicated
[05:22] <buz> domino is neat
[05:23] <buz> but not in kubuntu repositories :(
[05:23] <drarem> konqueror doesn't support flash?
[05:23] <buz> drarem: sure it does, you just need the plugin
[05:24] <HarleyQuine> think I'll dream of the day when I can stop configuring and installing stuff on ubuntu
[05:24] <HarleyQuine> when it all just... works.. then it crashes and dies the next day, knowing my luck
[05:24] <nfsto> nqkoi s kubuntu 7.04 da e imal problem s firefox
[05:25] <drarem> HarleyQuine  - my windows pc goes to waste when I think of it, unless I want to play a specific game
[05:25] <drarem> the linux pc when I'm on it am constantly doing something and learning something new about it
[05:26] <HarleyQuine> yah, I like exploring and learning things too, I have the flu.. so am not my usual chirpy self ;)
[05:27] <HarleyQuine> at the moment I'm having a dilemma... kde or gnome.. kde or gnome...
[05:27] <Arwen> HarleyQuine, GNOME :-)
[05:28] <HarleyQuine> they both have their good points..
[05:28] <Arwen> hehe, I like GNOME, prettier panels
[05:28] <buz> well, gnome is better uspported on ubuntu, aside of that, i'm not sure ;)
[05:28] <nimble> use a different panel image?
[05:29] <Arwen> meh, not worth my time to tweak :-)
[05:29] <HarleyQuine> yeah I like the simple life, gnome is simple.. and elegant.. but kde has Kontact which I'm liking
[05:29] <buz> imho gnome is way too simple
[05:29] <lontra> blah ... the customizability of kde is so superior!
[05:29] <Arwen> I might try KDE4 though, it's supposed to be uber
[05:29] <buz> more akin to dumb imho
[05:29] <buz> screenshots look very clean
[05:29] <lontra> !start a desktop war
[05:29] <HarleyQuine> I'd just like to install a theme simply :) then I could decide
[05:29] <nimble> i like putting my menu bar at the top of the screen
[05:29] <buz> HarleyQuine: domino is a good bet
[05:29] <nimble> and the gnome developers for some reason dislike that option :-/
[05:29] <buz> but it's kinda painful to compile
[05:30] <nosrednaekim> I put my Taskbar on the top
[05:30] <lontra> buz: domino is awesome ... there are kubuntu packages at kde-look.org
[05:30] <nosrednaekim> buz: there are kubuntu packages!
[05:30] <HarleyQuine> :D! couldn't compile to save my life
[05:30] <nimble> i have my taskbar on the side :D
[05:30] <buz> nosrednaekim: i dont use unofficial packages
[05:30] <buz> before that, i compile stuff myself
[05:30] <HarleyQuine> maybe that's why everything is taking so long for me to do.. I'm just not geeky enough
[05:30] <lontra> compiling domino is easy :) ... i made a deb package myself that i sent to debian-kde
[05:30] <nosrednaekim> does the text go sideways nimble?
[05:31] <HarleyQuine> or at least not geeky enough in compiling areas.. geeky enough in other ;P
[05:31] <nosrednaekim> buz: go up to www.kubuntu.org they have OFFICIAL packages there
[05:31] <nimble> well it goes the way it normally goes
[05:31] <buz> apt-cache search domino doesnt yield very much of use
[05:31] <HarleyQuine> :D I just put my taskbar on the top.. feels more gnomy
[05:32] <lontra> buz: go to kde-look.org and search for domino and kubuntu
[05:32] <buz> yeah those arent official
[05:32] <buz> not official == not signed by kubuntu devs
[05:32] <nimble> its about as close as i can configure the taskbar to be like a dock (im not trying to get my desktop like mac os x, i just think the dock is a better design)
[05:32] <buz> nimble: there are dock clones for kde
[05:32] <nosrednaekim> buz: so...... um.. are they really dangerous? I was going to get them myself.
[05:33] <buz> probably not
[05:33] <dell190> can anyone tell me how to change the Theme in Kubuntu please
[05:33] <lontra> buz: i can send you my domino packages?
[05:33] <buz> but i'm paranoid
[05:33] <nimble> yeah i know but im lazy
[05:33] <buz> lontra: i'm running domino as we speak ;)
[05:33] <HarleyQuine> hehehe
[05:33] <buz> building it isnt terribly hard
[05:33] <lontra> dell190: open up System Settings -> user preferences -> style, kwin, or whatever
[05:33] <lontra> though i use kcontrol cause i find system settings is cumbersome
[05:34] <buz> i'm not entirely sure why feisty doesnt ship domino, anyway ;)
[05:34] <nimble> also when i last tried some docks they all screwed up (it was in beryl)
[05:34] <buz> most things are kinda screwed up in beryl in my view
[05:34] <buz> it's neat, but it's also buggy
[05:35] <Arwen> beryl is pretty solid actually.. the backends it runs on are pretty buggy
[05:35] <jeroen__> Hello
[05:36] <scanman> selam trk var m
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: hello
[05:37] <jeroen__> yeah, finely, it works ^^
[05:37] <HarleyQuine> everything I've come across on kde-look is a domino config thing
[05:37] <HarleyQuine> no fair
[05:37] <jeroen__> i had some problems installing kubuntu 7.04
[05:37] <jeroen__> but now it works and I'm soooooooo happy :D
[05:37] <buz> congrats
[05:38] <lontra> !ndiswrapper
[05:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:39] <nosrednaekim> good job
[05:39] <drarem> I'm kinda wondering if I should move my tv tuner card in my media center xp home pc  to my linux pc, do I hear any fors or againsts?
[05:39] <buz> drarem: well the first question is if linux has drivers for it
[05:39] <buz> mine doesnt work in linux for one
[05:39] <jeroen__> Is this the channel where I was like 1 hour ago with the question for my partitions?
[05:39] <buz> not terrible bad loss
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> drarem: what type of card is it?
[05:41] <jaims> hello
[05:41] <jaims> just installed feisty and beryl packages...
[05:41] <jaims> is there a quick way to switch beryl on?
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> jaims: ok.
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> jaims: are you running AIGLX or XGL?
[05:42] <jaims> xgl i reckon
[05:42] <jaims> fresh standard kubuntu feisty install
[05:42] <Faderhval> hello folks :)
[05:42] <jaims> i mean, with ubuntu feisty (installed 2 days ago in my laptop) it was matter of couple of clicks
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> jaims: did you install XGL?
[05:43] <drarem> don't know, I would have to open it, it's a m7640n  HP  pc
[05:43] <jaims> nope
[05:43] <jaims> nosrednaekim: no
[05:43] <Faderhval> hey guys i just installed kubuntu 7.04 and was wondering does apt no longer have a "search" command ??
[05:44] <jaims> i thought it would be the default x manager...
[05:44] <buz> Faderhval:
[05:44] <buz> apt-cache search
[05:44] <nosrednaekim> jaims: no its not... whut what type of video caard do you have?
[05:44] <jaims> asus/nvidia
[05:44] <Faderhval> buz: thanks
[05:44] <jaims> mother board integrated
[05:45] <jaims> shouldn't go into trouble i think
[05:45] <jaims> nosrednaekim: thank you
[05:45] <drarem> chit DDR2 ram techology???  wtf?  thought it was brand new at that price
[05:45] <nimble> aiglx is easier to set up
[05:45] <jaims> i guess that would be my starting point...
[05:45] <buz> uhm ddr2 is current tech
[05:45] <jaims> nimble: d u think so?
[05:45] <lontra> aiglx and xgl are both very easy to set up
[05:46] <buz> sure, aiglx is much easier
[05:46] <drarem> where did i hear ddr3
[05:46] <jaims> as i haven't started yet i can install aiglx instead xorg
[05:46] <drarem> video?
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> Aiglx is far simpler easier and stable
[05:46] <jaims> i see
[05:46] <Arwen> yep, if you can use AIGLX, do so
[05:46] <buz> only it's not supported by ATi
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> jaims: aiglx is included in xorg..
[05:46] <drarem> nm sorry
[05:46] <buz> then again, nothing's really supported by ati
[05:46] <nimble> black window bug with nvidia and the faster settings too
[05:46] <jaims> ok thanks
[05:47] <jaims> and be indulgent plz with my ignorance :-)
[05:47] <lontra> jaims: no :)
[05:47] <jaims> :-)
[05:47] <jaims> so, i'm going to try
[05:47] <jaims> thanks again
[05:47] <Diashto> anyone around a beryl expert?
[05:48] <jaims> bye all
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> Diashto: not really an EXPERT.. go over to #beryl for that
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> but I might be able to help
[05:48] <Faderhval> anyone running radeon gfx cards in kubuntu?
[05:48] <Diashto> well.. having an unusual issue
[05:48] <Diashto> i start  up beryl.. and suddenly i have 112 desktops
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> Diashto: ok....
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> does the cube owrk and verything?
[05:49] <Diashto> yeah
[05:50] <Diashto> in the settings manager it shows as 1
[05:50] <Diashto> or, rather that it should only have one desktop
[05:50] <Diashto> and in the desktop pager thingy it only shows 2
[05:51] <Diashto> the cube works, all the little doodads work
[05:51] <Diashto> but there's 112 desktops
[05:51] <Diashto> so its more of a dodecahedron than a cube
[05:51] <nosrednaekim> Diashto: thats a known problem.
[05:52] <Diashto> oh
[05:52] <Diashto> any way to fix it?
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> Diashto: windows list viewer? its owrthless in beryl anyway
[05:53] <Diashto> eh?
[05:54] <Mozz27> Im new to kubuntu and linux in general so please go gentle with me. Can any advise me how to upgrade firefox in dapper from 1.5 to current release?
[05:54] <nosrednaekim> yeah.
[05:55] <buz> Mozz27: unless oyu have a good reason to do so, dont
[05:55] <buz> it's quite painful
[05:55] <angasule> is blender working for 64 bits in feisty? or broken? :?
[05:56] <Mozz27> Is it safe to continue with 1.5 from a security point of view
[05:56] <buz> should be
[05:56] <Arwen> Mozz27, it's safe enough, 1.5 is supported with patchces from mozilla corp
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> Mozz27:  oh yes.
[05:56] <buz> ubuntu should patch bugs for what i understand
[05:57] <lontra> hi
[05:57] <Mozz27> Thanks guys, will stick with 1.5 in that case
[05:57] <phoenixbyrd> upgrade to kubuntu 7.04 and use the latest firefox
[05:58] <Mozz27> i had some trouble with boot time with 7.04
[05:58] <Faderhval> uhm... having a small problem here the prompt to type in my password when switching to admin mode dosent show and ideas why that is?
[05:58] <buz> trouble like what
[05:58] <Faderhval> any*
[05:58] <buz> Faderhval: on the console?
[05:58] <buz> if you have used it a few minutes ago it wont ask again
[05:58] <Faderhval> nope from menu system settings
[05:59] <buz> not sure then
[05:59] <Mozz27> it took 5-6 mins to boot in to my desktop. just sat at the splash screen
[05:59] <buz> Mozz27: thats weird
[05:59] <phoenixbyrd> live cd or fresh install?
[05:59] <phoenixbyrd> live cd took awhile for me to boot
[05:59] <Mozz27> fresh install
[05:59] <buz> well livecd generally arent very fast
[06:00] <phoenixbyrd> new computer or old clunker?
[06:00] <arun> hey, people.. the upload speeds i'm getting while using ktorrent are far greater than the download speeds (think in multiples of ten).. anything i can do to change this?
[06:00] <Mozz27> someone sugested it had somthing to do with network detection. all went over my head a little so i settled on dapper lts
[06:01] <Mozz27> same problem occured on my laptop install
[06:01] <alexandre> bonjour
[06:01] <jeroen__> Hello, I have a problem
[06:01] <alexandre> me too!
[06:01] <nosrednaekim> state your poisons..
[06:01] <jeroen__> I seems that my Konqueror keeps crashing when I open it
[06:01] <phoenixbyrd> so don't open it, problem solved
[06:02] <alexandre> how can I update from dapper drake to feisty fawn ?
[06:02] <jeroen__> ...
[06:02] <Faderhval> hmm... how do i change my screen res. in konsole????
[06:02] <jeroen__> that's not really the solution :p
[06:02] <buz> mhh medibuntu is in dire need of some mirrors
[06:02] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: start konqueror in a konsole and look for the error mesage
[06:02] <jeroen__> how ? I'm a linux noob :p
[06:03] <buz> type konqueror in konsole
[06:03] <alexandre> how can I update from dapper drake to feisty fawn ?
[06:03] <nosrednaekim> and hit enter.
[06:03] <buz> !upgrade
[06:03] <jeroen__> k
[06:03] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:03] <jeroen__> it opens
[06:03] <nosrednaekim> alexandre: dapper->edgy->fiesty
[06:04] <buz> alexandre: "Skipping versions is not advised and can cause a lot of damage to your installation. If you are using an earlier version, and want to 'skip' a version, the only safe way is to backup your data and do a fresh install, or to progressively upgrade to each successive version. "
[06:04] <nosrednaekim> has it crashed>
[06:04] <alexandre> thx
[06:04] <jeroen__> No, but it crashed when I want to open my external HDD
[06:04] <scanman> trk var m turk :-D
[06:05] <buz> alexandre: if you have home on a separate partition, i suggest backing it up and reinstall
[06:05] <buz> backups are generally a good idea anyhow ;)
[06:05] <jeroen__> I need to reinstall? :s
[06:05] <Lynoure> It would be really nice if the newest LTS version always had a direct upgrade path
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: try navigating to there in that window which is printing out messages to the konsole
[06:06] <alexandre> but how do I know my linux version ?
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: NO!
[06:06] <jeroen__> ok
[06:07] <buz> alexandre: dapper is 6.06
[06:07] <alexandre> how can I know my linux version ?
[06:07] <crazyrobot> alexandre: uname -r
[06:07] <alexandre> thanks !
[06:09] <crazyrobot> alexandre: if you want to know your kubuntu version type lsb_release -r
[06:09] <alexandre> ok I've got dapper :(
[06:10] <buz> mhh powermanager seems broken on this notebook, the core 2 duo always runs at 1ghz
[06:10] <Dr_willis> buz,  you may need to install some of the laptop related packages
[06:11] <buz> like?
[06:11] <buz> on my old laptop that worked without any special stuff
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: did you navigate to your removable HD?
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> buz: everything works on this one... but its a AMD
[06:11] <buz> my old one was a pentium m, that worked perfectly
[06:12] <jeroen__> yes
[06:12] <jeroen__> There it worked
[06:13] <buz> mhh i'm beginning to think cpuinfo is just wrong
[06:13] <jeroen__> but it worked with Konqueror half an hour ago
[06:13] <buz> core2 duo should not have 4000 bogomips at 1ghz
[06:13] <buz> it has that at 2ghz
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> yes it does... thats probably both cores together
[06:13] <buz> well it lists two cores
[06:14] <jeroen__> yeah
[06:14] <nosrednaekim> each at 4000?
[06:14] <jeroen__> how can I fix it?
[06:14] <buz> yes
[06:14] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: i'm not sure what the problem is... are you saing that when you click on the HD icon on the desktop konquror crashes?
[06:14] <jeroen__> yes
[06:14] <jeroen__> but for internet and stuff it works
[06:15] <jeroen__> only when I want to go to my external HDD or my other hard drive it crashes
[06:15] <jeroen__> maybe a reboot would do the job?
[06:15] <jeroen__> this is the first time it has booted
[06:16] <buz> then again it shows 4mb cache for both of them as well
[06:16] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: yeah... or maybe just a re-login
[06:16] <jeroen__> Ok, I'll try that. Thanks for the help
[06:16] <jeroen__> Bye
[06:21] <Diashto> ugh.  remind me how to mount my ntfs volume so i can read my pictures?
[06:21] <Jucato> !ntfs
[06:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:21] <lontra> hi
[06:21] <nosrednaekim> hello
[06:21] <Mozz27> hi
[06:23] <lontra> i've been spending all money oxygenifying my kde3.5.6 :D
[06:23] <lontra> oops ... all morning
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> lontra: you mentioned money... sure you aren't running vista?
[06:24] <lontra> nosrednaekim: he he
[06:26] <aleksanteri> where are the konqueror metabar themes located at?
[06:27] <Jucato> aleksanteri: planning to install some?
[06:27] <aleksanteri> hmm more like to make my own... creating a small theme suite
[06:27] <Mozz27> anyone else find 7.04 boots slowly
[06:28] <buz> (it was not mythtv)
[06:28] <Jucato> aleksanteri: if you modified them yourself, they'd be in ~/.kde/share/apps/metabar
[06:28] <aleksanteri> ok
[06:28] <Jucato> the system-wide ones are in /usr/share/apps/metabar
[06:28] <aleksanteri> thx
[06:30] <asso> salut j ai un problme
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> bye all
[06:31] <asso> j arrive pas a installer modem sagem fast
[06:31] <Mozz27> bye
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> !fr
[06:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:32] <Diashto> thanks for  yall's help :)
[06:33] <Mozz27> has anyone else found 7.04 boot time to be long
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Mozz27: not me.
[06:34] <Lynoure> Mozz27: how long is too long? At one point before release there was network bug adding extra 40s or so, but it is gone now.
[06:35] <LjL> !info bootchart
[06:35] <ubotu> bootchart: boot sequence auditing and chart generator. In component main, is extra. Version 0.9-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 97 kB, installed size 192 kB
[06:35] <blackflag> I can not use apt anymore. I get the failure: aptitude: error while loading shared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:35] <blackflag> can someone help?
[06:35] <LjL> blackflag: that's quite bad. pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list (if you can)
[06:35] <lontra> !file libgcc_s.so.1
[06:35] <LjL> !find libgcc_s
[06:35] <Mozz27> lynoure was it fish with an update
[06:36] <Mozz27> fixed even
[06:36] <ubotu> Package/file libgcc_s does not exist in feisty
[06:36] <Lynoure> Mozz27: yes.
[06:36] <blackflag> the sources list is okay, I think . the file is missing
[06:36] <Mozz27> Thanks will reinstall and update
[06:36] <LjL> it's in libgcc1 anyway
[06:36] <LjL> blackflag: well, we need to find out why
[06:36] <LjL> blackflag: what does "apt-cache policy libgcc1" show?
[06:37] <lontra> blackflag: if you're on i386 ... http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.1/libgcc1_4.1.2-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[06:37] <Fattihvalos> hey guys i'm having a dumb problem here, i accedently used the wrong res and driver for my monitor and know i cant get x up (input not supportet) how do i change the driver/res from recovery mode???
[06:37] <rakyray> i just installed the feisty kubuntu-desktop yesterday.  i removed the libgnome.  i turn it on today, and it shuts down after its up.  then i log into recovery mode, and it shutsdown.  any suggestions?
[06:37] <LjL> don't fix things before understanding why they broke
[06:38] <LjL> !xconfig > Fattihvalos    (Fattihvalos, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:38] <LjL> rakyray: any clue in the messages telling you why it would shutdown?
[06:38] <lontra> Fattihvalos: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:39] <Fattihvalos> thanks
[06:39] <rakyray> the only thing i get is a message after the BIOS screen before grub that says it cant' load kbuntu_splashscreen,w hich is odd
[06:40] <blackflag> thanks a lot! :) reinstall that packaage solves it !!!
[06:40] <rakyray> i guess its not hardware, cuz i'm using windows and its not shutting-down
[06:40] <lontra> blackflag: np
[06:40] <oliver> hey
[06:40] <LjL> rakyray: that must be after GRUB... anyway, try booting without the "quiet" option (and remove "splash" too), and see if there's any relevant message (you can do that in the GRUB menu: hit "e", then down-arrow to the kernel command line, "e" again, edit it, and then "b" to boot)
[06:40] <lontra> oliver: hi
[06:40] <oliver> I got a problem with bluetooth
[06:41] <oliver> when ever I click it in the system settings menu it just stops and freezes
[06:41] <oliver> Kubuntu 7.04
[06:41] <LjL> blackflag: *find out why it got uninstalled*. run debsums and check that your system is ok. make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed.
[06:41] <rakyray> ok, thanks LjL
[06:41] <syntax>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[06:41] <LjL> without a space
[06:42] <syntax> sorry =)
[06:42] <lontra> i'm sure he knows that
[06:42] <oliver> hang on i think I fixed it
[06:42] <blackflag> I tried to install vmware-server from source waht is ending with errors . I found a websites where it is discribed to solve that problem, what is not working for me
[06:43] <blackflag> and it seems I was not able to move the tings back
[06:43] <blackflag> thats the reason
[06:43] <blackflag> ;)
[06:43] <Mozz27> with ubuntu getting regular new versions whats the benefit of lts
[06:44] <lontra> Mozz27: new software, better hardware detection, bug fixes, new innovations ...
[06:45] <blackflag> someone has the latest version of vmware-server installed on feisty?
[06:46] <amanone> someone, can speak french  pliz ? ^o)
[06:46] <blackflag> my installation end with errors building the vmmon modules
[06:46] <Mozz27> lontra is that a benefit on regular dist upgrades or long term support
[06:46] <blackflag> Can someone help me vmware server installing?
[06:46] <blackflag> or is trhere anywhere a deb package?
[06:47] <amanone> nobody speak french Oo ?
[06:47] <crazyrobot> amanone: #kubuntu-fr
[06:47] <amanone> -_- sorry :)
[06:47] <lontra> blackflag: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[06:48] <lontra> Mozz27: i'm not sure i understand the question ... with upgrades and dist-upgrades (provided you stay within the same release ... i.e. always Edgy, Dapper, or Feisty) you'll only get bug fixes.  when you upgrade to newer releases Edgy -> Feisty , i.e., you'll get the benefits i described
[06:50] <Mozz27> sorry lontra its my lack of understanding of linux. This is a big learning curve coming from windows
[06:51] <blackflag> ahh, okay thanks!!!
[06:51] <rakyray> good news is its not shutting down, bad news is I don't know why
[06:51] <lontra> Mozz27: no problem.  some distros like ubuntu/kubuntu don't upgrade to newer software within releases.  others like opensuse do if you add the correct repositories.  since ubuntu releases 2 times a year it never lags in new software
[06:51] <rakyray> I removed gdm, since its leftover from before I got kdm
[06:52] <mefisto__> question about gwenview: can I get it to remember to sort files by date instead of by name?
[06:55] <Mozz27> Thanks for your help guys. This channel is going to be a great help to me in my transition to linux
[06:56] <XBehave> anybody know much about kopete plugins?
[06:57] <afterwego> Anyone know how to stop programs from starting in the top right corner on a global level?
[06:57] <afterwego> or one of the corners
[06:58] <lontra> there's a setting in kcontrol under windows behaviour
[06:58] <mefisto__> starting in the top right corner?
[06:58] <afterwego> I could have sworn ive searched that thing
[06:59] <afterwego> I think it actually starts in the bottom left corner, but I couldn't remember
[07:00] <lontra> afterwego: i can't find it now ... but i know there's something in kcontrol that controls taht
[07:00] <afterwego> Ok I suppose i'll just keep digging
[07:00] <lontra> afterwego: try #kde too
[07:01] <afterwego> will do thanks
[07:03] <mefisto__> afterwego: try desktop>window-specific settings
[07:03] <afterwego> Alright ill give it a shot
[07:08] <solokkhz> HOHOHO
[07:22] <PhinnFort> !remote
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> wb Jucato
[07:22] <PhinnFort> !lirc
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lirc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <Jucato> thanks :)
[07:26] <PhinnFort> does "lirc-modules-2.6.20-13-lowlatency" provide the same modules as "lirc-modules-source"?
[07:26] <Faderhval> hey guys... was wondering if theres a way to have Amarok support mp3 with compiling from source?? it seems amarok freezes when i try to do it from amarok
[07:27] <PhinnFort> Faderhval: wtf do you want to compile amarok from source?
[07:28] <thepimp> does anyone what package contain the command play?
[07:28] <PhinnFort> thepimp: try packages.ubuntu.com
[07:29] <PhinnFort>  sound/sox
[07:29] <PhinnFort> !info sox | thepimp
[07:29] <ubotu> thepimp: sox: A universal sound sample translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.18.2-1 (feisty), package size 323 kB, installed size 748 kB
[07:30] <thepimp> thanks ubotu
[07:30] <PhinnFort> he's a bot;)
[07:30] <PhinnFort> !botsnack
[07:30] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:32] <Sanne> haha
[07:32] <Faderhval> PhinnFort: because it doesent support mp3 default and the usual way of getting amarok to support mp3 freezs the application
[07:33] <jardasmid_> What to do now?
[07:33] <PhinnFort> Faderhval: it isn't amarok that does the playing
[07:33] <PhinnFort> Faderhval: Amarok uses "engines" who send plays the files/sends the files to programs that play them
[07:34] <PhinnFort> Faderhval: what is "the usual way"?
[07:34] <jardasmid_> nobody know what to do now?
[07:34] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about...
[07:35] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: are you in the right channel?
[07:35] <Faderhval> well if you try to play and mp3 file in amarok it will tell you it dosent support it and then ask to enable support but when the prombt appears it freezes
[07:35] <jardasmid_> I've just installed kubuntu and I don't know what should I do now ...
[07:35] <PhinnFort> !mp3 | Faderhval
[07:35] <ubotu> Faderhval: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:36] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: give me all your base would be a beginning;)
[07:37] <jardasmid_> Hey, I realy don't know what to do know.
[07:37] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: turn off your computer and go out
[07:37] <PhinnFort> look at the grass'
[07:37] <manu_> hi
[07:38] <PhinnFort> !hi | manu_
[07:38] <ubotu> manu_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:38] <manu_> i have a timidity server and can play with pmidi files, but with kmid i get no sound output
[07:38] <manu_> whats wrong? :(
[07:38] <Kensome> 2 laptops 400 ea. 1 xbox 360 for 300, 1 ps3 with 3 games, extra controller 500, 1 nintendo ds with game 100$  livraiison/shiiping  incl msn: mberrelley@telusmail.net
[07:39] <manu_> i like kmid because of the karaoke function and its graphical userinterface
[07:39] <PhinnFort> !spam
[07:39] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[07:39] <PhinnFort> manu_: sorry, I can't help you
[07:39] <PhinnFort> manu_: you could try in #kde too, if you don't get help here
[07:41] <jardasmid_> It's raining and that strong wind ... I better stay home. I'd like to update my system, install some apps, games, but ... I've got too slow internet connection - 56kbps. Browsing the internet is too slow. I have to wait 1 long minute for web page to be loaded. Why? My usual speed in Windows is around 5Mbps!
[07:42] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: then there's something wrong with your ISP
[07:42] <thefirstdude> 5Mbps?
[07:42] <jardasmid_> No, I don't think so.
[07:42] <jardasmid_> Yeah, 5Mbps
[07:43] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: how do you connect to the internet?
[07:43] <jardasmid_> via cable tv
[07:44] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: well, then there's no reason it would be slower in Linux than in Windows
[07:44] <thefirstdude> jardasmid_, try pinging google, and tell us how long for 10 pings
[07:45] <jardasmid_> 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9004ms
[07:45] <jardasmid_> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 144.008/187.227/256.017/39.225 ms
[07:45] <PhinnFort> sure beats me: 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3999ms
[07:46] <thefirstdude> jardasmid, 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms
[07:46] <phnom> this is a kinda noobish question, but how does one execute a certain command at start-up? (xmodmap .xmodmap in this case)
[07:46] <PhinnFort> doesn't sound too bad
[07:46] <thefirstdude> you beat me by 3ms
[07:46] <PhinnFort> phnom: when you log into KDE or when you boot?
[07:47] <phnom> PhinnFort, when you log in
[07:47] <PhinnFort> phnom: try the ".kde/Autostart" folder
[07:47] <PhinnFort> phnom: right click in it, new link to application
[07:47] <jardasmid_> Pls, help me.
[07:48] <thefirstdude> jardasmid, it cant be your internet connection
[07:48] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: try installing opera
[07:48] <thefirstdude> ./whois jardasmid_
[07:48] <thefirstdude> opera sucks
[07:48] <phnom> PhinnFort: ah, ok, tyvm :)
[07:48] <PhinnFort> ;)
[07:48] <PhinnFort> thefirstdude: I don't want to start a flame war, but it has the most features in the smallest download
[07:48] <PhinnFort> and it's also much quicker by default;)
[07:49] <thefirstdude> jardasmid_, what browser are you using?
[07:49] <PhinnFort> !find opera
[07:49] <ubotu> File opera found in apparmor-profiles, crossfire-maps, crossfire-maps-small, debian-edu-config, localization-config
[07:49] <jardasmid_> Konqueror
[07:49] <thefirstdude> Konqueror is a premature browser in my opinion
[07:49] <PhinnFort> lol
[07:49] <thefirstdude> for me it loads in about 10 times the speed firefox
[07:50] <thefirstdude> 1/10
[07:50] <PhinnFort> konqueror has always been before Firefox in anything;)
[07:50] <PhinnFort> that I can remember, but that's just me
[07:50] <PhinnFort> CSS2, CSS3, uzw
[07:50] <phnom> I'd settle with anything that can read css the right way :P
[07:50] <amitron> Hello. I am having some sound problems after an upgrade to Feisty Fawn.
[07:50] <PhinnFort> well, Konqueror has always been amongst the first to pass the ACID tests
[07:50] <PhinnFort> !sound
[07:50] <thefirstdude> PhinnFort, I donno why, but it says page loaded, then waits 2 minutes, and then displays?
[07:51] <PhinnFort> thefirstdude: then there's something seriously wrong with your install;)
[07:51] <PhinnFort> thefirstdude: what sites are you browsing?
[07:51] <sercik_> hi
[07:51] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:52] <jardasmid_> I'l try to install firefox, but I don't think it will help, since kopete is connecting to jabber account for 45 seconds, on windows mirranda connects in a second
[07:52] <sercik_> after many trying i have finally choose kubuntu
[07:52] <thefirstdude> jardasmid_, why kopete?
[07:52] <thefirstdude> jardasmid_, I've never used it before
[07:53] <PhinnFort> Kopete owns
[07:53] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: Kopete is slow on MSN here, but so is the official MSn client
[07:53] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: i believe miranda is connecting while it's loading it's interface
[07:53] <sercik_> opn linux try amsn
[07:53] <PhinnFort> which takes several minutes on the computer's i've tried
[07:53] <PhinnFort> Kopete is very good, and it's tightly integrated with KDE
[07:53] <sercik_> amsn support many options like msn on windows
[07:53] <thefirstdude> I'm actually using xubuntu with afew kde apps (like konversation and kate)
[07:54] <PhinnFort> so it's less memory overhead
[07:54] <PhinnFort> sercik_: so has Kopete
[07:54] <thefirstdude> PhinnFort, not really
[07:54] <PhinnFort> even webcam support
[07:54] <PhinnFort> thefirstdude: how so?
[07:54] <sercik_> only animoticons are not supported
[07:54] <sercik_> i use amsn also on windows..
[07:54] <thefirstdude> PhinnFort, all the kde junk loaded takes up all my memory (256)
[07:54] <PhinnFort> sercik_: Kopete supports custom emoticons
[07:54] <jardasmid_> no, I start kopete. When it is loaded, i right-clink on the account icon and select online. Now i have to wait over 45 second to connect
[07:54] <thefirstdude> dcopserver, kdeinit, blablabla
[07:54] <PhinnFort> thefirstdude: but if you run only KDE, it's much lighter
[07:54] <sercik_> PhinnFort: is not a war :)
[07:55] <PhinnFort> thefirstdude: please read up on shared libraries;)
[07:55] <sercik_> i like kopete but the bast msn clone is msn STOP
[07:55] <sercik_> amsn
[07:55] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: that's what I mean
[07:55] <thefirstdude> PhinnFort, I switched from kubuntu to xubuntu because it's lighter on ram
[07:55] <thefirstdude> even when running kde apps
[07:55] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: when you start miranda, it loads forever, just as long as it takes for kopete to connect, i would guess
[07:55] <nimble> i dont see why youd want an msn clone, live messenger and all the msn messengers i ever used were pretty bad imo
[07:55] <thefirstdude> because I can only load dcopserver, and klauncher
[07:56] <PhinnFort> thefirstdude: and KDELIBS
[07:56] <PhinnFort> ;)
[07:56] <sercik_> because if you want only to chat use mirc
[07:56] <PhinnFort> the mighty kdelibs
[07:56] <thefirstdude> yeh, I think those get loaded in klauncher
[07:56] <sercik_> but if you want send animoticon sound video and audio chat with msn people under windows....
[07:56] <PhinnFort> thefirstdude: KDELIBS is the shared libraries that are shared amongst all kde apps
[07:57] <PhinnFort> thefirstdude: if you're just running one app, it seems huge, but if you run several, it's really small
[07:57] <thefirstdude> ok...
[07:57] <PhinnFort> thefirstdude: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[07:57] <thefirstdude> anyway, KDE uses up much less ram when I custom load it on xubuntu
[07:58] <thefirstdude> I'm also running konqueror, konversation, ksysguard, and kate
[07:58] <thefirstdude> so I'm using enough apps hopefully
[07:58] <jardasmid_> the slowness is not kopete fault. I've found every internet app in kubuntu to be slow. Kubuntu is connected to internet with 50-60 kbps speed, but it should be something around 5Mbps, like in windows. It isn't ISP's fault. It is Kubuntu fault
[07:59] <thefirstdude> lol
[07:59] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: have you tried disabling IPv6?
[07:59] <thefirstdude> I should have thought that first
[07:59] <jardasmid_> how can i do that?
[07:59] <PhinnFort> it's the next generation of the internet protocol, but it's not widely used
[07:59] <PhinnFort> !ipv6
[07:59] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:00] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: i don't think Windows XP supports it
[08:00] <Faderhval> PhinnFort: thanks for the links but they didnt really help :( i still cant play mp3 files
[08:00] <Faderhval> any suggestions_
[08:00] <PhinnFort> Faderhval: what did you try?
[08:01] <Faderhval> tried installing gstreamer0.10-ugly
[08:01] <jardasmid_> Could not connect to host https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:01] <Faderhval> was the only thing i got from the pages you pasted...
[08:02] <PhinnFort> !find xine
[08:02] <ubotu> Found: amarok-xine, gxine, kaffeine-xine, libxcb-xinerama0, libxcb-xinerama0-dbg (and 23 others)
[08:03] <Faderhval> aye i installed libxine as well with no luck
[08:03] <sercik_> !find make
[08:03] <ubotu> Found: automake, automake1.10-doc, automake1.4, automake1.7, automake1.8 (and 56 others)
[08:03] <PhinnFort> !find mp3
[08:03] <ubotu> Found: libgmp3-dev, libgmp3-doc, libgmp3c2, beep-media-player, checkmp3 (and 41 others)
[08:03] <jardasmid_> Fuck it! Now I'm going to boot Windows and delete kubuntu. Does anyone know how to restore nt-bootloader, because kubuntu rewrited it with grub with no ask.
[08:04] <jardasmid_> ?
[08:04] <sercik_> jardasmid_: this is kubuntu help channel go to microsoft help channel :)
[08:05] <Lynoure> jardasmid_: Microsoft has a help page on that. But I can tell you step by step the ipv6 instructions
[08:05] <jardasmid_> go ahead ...
[08:05] <sercik_> jardasmid_: use a dos floppy disk and do fdisk /mbr
[08:05] <Lynoure> jardasmid_: kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:06] <Lynoure> jardasmid_: Add this line:  blacklist ipv6
[08:06] <PhinnFort> ##windows
[08:06] <PhinnFort> it actually exists
[08:06] <Faderhval> PhinnFort: thank you for your help but i dont really know what to do with the info you just sent! im pretty new still to this :)
[08:06] <Lynoure> jardasmid_: Save the file and restart your computer, After restarting, open up a terminal and type:    ip a | grep inet6
[08:06] <PhinnFort> Faderhval: I'm just trying to remember what I did;)
[08:06] <Lynoure> If there's no output, IPv6 is disabled
[08:06] <sercik_> but is strange that kubuntu installation don't create the voice to start windows
[08:06] <sercik_> probably you have installed kubuntu overwriting windows
[08:06] <Faderhval> PhinnFort: aah ok :)
[08:08] <jardasmid_> Why reboot? It's like in windows, reboots forever. Every one was telling me, that no reboots in linux are required exept of kernel upgrade
[08:08] <Lynoure> jardasmid_: you can also unload the module and reload, but it is less easy for newbies
[08:08] <jardasmid_> what is the module, i can use modprobe
[08:09] <lontra> ipv6?
[08:09] <jardasmid_> will rmmod ipv6 do the job?
[08:09] <Lynoure> jardasmid_: try the check command to see.
[08:09] <jardasmid_> ERROR: Module ipv6 is in use
[08:10] <lontra> jardasmid_: probably ... /etc/init.d/ipv6 stop
[08:10] <Lynoure> jardasmid_: indeed. You'd need to run down your interface first.
[08:10] <lontra> jardasmid_: then rmmod ipv6
[08:10] <jardasmid_> i'll try to reboot, wait
[08:10] <PhinnFort> jardasmid_: that won't work
[08:11] <Lynoure> PhinnFort: yep, it will just reload on boot if he only rmmod:ed. Gotta love those "no no, I do it my way" cases =)
[08:12] <PhinnFort> ;)
[08:13] <PhinnFort> Faderhval: install " libxine-extracodecs"
[08:13] <PhinnFort> and try to restart amarok
[08:14] <Faderhval> you be da man! it work thank you! xD
[08:16] <Faderhval> i did come across it when reading those pages you first pasted but when i did a search for them in apt it came up with nothing. Must have spelled it wrong
[08:18] <marko> where is kde installed
[08:18] <marko> ?
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago> marko: what do you mean?
[08:19] <marko>  "./configure --prefix=/path/to/kde/version"
[08:19] <marko> what i need to put here
[08:20] <Admiral_Chicago> what are you trying to do?
[08:20] <marko> compile a kopete plugin
[08:20] <marko> http://conrausch.elise.no-ip.com/index.php?p=kopete_ktts
[08:21] <kristina> hi, I'm trying to download kde4 alpha, added the repository as indicated on the site but it couldn't fetch it while doing an apt-get update, is the repository down atm by chance?
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> kristina: no, you need the right line..
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1 feisty main
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> good luck
[08:21] <kristina> ah, ok didn't add the feisty main, tnx
[08:22] <RawSewage> Is anyone else's system broken
[08:22] <marko> when i try only with ./configure it says checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[08:23] <RawSewage> I installed the KDE4 Alpha yesterday, and now my system is broken, and the idiots over at KDE are saying it's all my fault and KDE4 had nothing  to do with it
[08:23] <RawSewage> instead of offering a solution
[08:23] <Sanne> marko: that error means you need the X development packages
[08:23] <RawSewage> I cant even run KDE3 now
[08:23] <RawSewage> IM on the live CD
[08:24] <RawSewage> x wont start
[08:24] <nimble> why did you install kde4?
[08:24] <RawSewage> thats irrelevant, thanks
[08:24] <sercik_> hi Admiral_Chicago do you remember me?
[08:24] <RawSewage> Im asking for a solution
[08:24] <RawSewage> anyone else have problems after installing KDE4 alpha
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik_: sorry no I do not
[08:25] <AFaith> hello people
[08:25] <AFaith> what can I use to play a divx encoded file ?
[08:25] <RawSewage> vlc
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> RawSewage: i created a new session and it wouldn't launch but thats because i didn't want to hose my install
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik_: something I can help with?
[08:25] <Sanne> marko: you can try libx11-dev, and if that's not enough, xlibs-dev
[08:26] <sercik_> no thanks
[08:26] <RawSewage> Admiral_Chicago: thats how I have it set up.  I can choose KDE4 or KDE3 from login.  but now KDE3 wont even work
[08:26] <sercik_> i want only to salute you
[08:26] <sercik_> you have helped me times ago
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> can't say I have that issue
[08:26] <sercik_> i need webmin under kubuntu it is possible??
[08:27] <RawSewage> I have no clue whatsoever how to fix it
[08:27] <AFaith> RawSewage: try this http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/vlc-beyond-the-basics/
[08:27] <AFaith> it really worked
[08:27] <RawSewage> AFaith: ty
[08:27] <RawSewage> no
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago> what does webmin do?
[08:27] <llutz> hi
[08:27] <sercik_> don't you know webmin?
[08:27] <RawSewage> AFaith: I was answering your question
[08:27] <RawSewage> vlc plays divx
[08:27] <AFaith> Admiral_Chicago: webmin is the best web-based administration
[08:27] <AFaith> tool
[08:27] <sercik_> exact
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago> like SWAT?
[08:27] <sercik_> Hi AFaith
[08:27] <AFaith> RawSewage: yes, i know :) i pretended to be a complete n00b
[08:28] <Lynoure> RawSewage: It did say developers only... so not surprising. If you can get console, you can remove kde4 and reconfigure kubuntu-desktop, (might be an overkill), if that does not help, try without your ~/.kde
[08:28] <sercik_> no no best
[08:28] <RawSewage> oh
[08:28] <AFaith> to see if it's really like
[08:28] <AFaith> Admiral_Chicago: it's a lot better than swat
[08:28] <sercik_> you can also do remote command
[08:28] <AFaith> try it!
[08:28] <RawSewage> Lynoure: how do you reconfigure
[08:28] <sercik_> AFaith: is nopt installable under kubuntu
[08:28] <sercik_> but i need it
[08:28] <AFaith> sercik_: you can also create bandwidth shaping with webmin ;)
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, well i don't know where to find it
[08:28] <AFaith> sercik_: VLS ?
[08:29] <AFaith> VLC* ?
[08:29] <sercik_> VLS?
[08:29] <Lynoure> RawSewage: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-desktop
[08:29] <RawSewage> Lynoure: ty
[08:29] <AFaith> sercik_: misstyped
[08:29] <Lynoure> RawSewage: good luck.
[08:29] <sercik_> VLC is videolan?
[08:29] <AFaith> sercik_: yes
[08:29] <sercik_> and i have not requested... i need webmin
[08:30] <AFaith> sercik_: i can install & setup webmin for you :)
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=webadmin&filename=webmin_1.340_all.deb&use_mirror=internap
[08:30] <sercik_> AFaith: how?
[08:30] <AFaith> sercik_: via ssh
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik_: there is a Debian package
[08:31] <sercik_> i don't know you... sorry :)
[08:31] <AFaith> Admiral_Chicago: you can also install it via apt-get if you have enough good repos installed
[08:31] <AFaith> sercik_: i understand :))
[08:31] <sercik_> Admiral_Chicago: could you give me a repo?
[08:31] <AFaith> i've done this mistake myself too :))
[08:31] <sercik_> AFaith: i'm not a newbye :)
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on let me look
[08:31] <AFaith> telling my ip, username and password over a IRC channel :))
[08:32] <sercik_> i use ssh!! i have a server running on my home without keyboard and monitor and i use ssh...
[08:32] <sercik_> do you know putty?
[08:32] <AFaith> sercik_: neighter am I ;)
[08:32] <AFaith> i'm wondering
[08:32] <sercik_> i'm sure.. netter than me
[08:32] <AFaith> who doesn't :))
[08:32] <sercik_> better than me
[08:32] <AFaith> any other irc channels for linux distributions ?
[08:33] <sercik_> AFaith: but you remember me? i have a flashback
[08:33] <AFaith> i really wanna see if VLC is the most popular video player
[08:33] <AFaith> and not only :P
[08:33] <AFaith> sercik_: what do you mean ?
[08:33] <sercik_> irc password .... etc etc...
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago>  i can't seem to find it, i'd install the deb using dpkg
[08:33] <sercik_> do you know where is deb package?
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=webadmin&filename=webmin_1.340_all.deb&use_mirror=internap
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> hdece
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> there sercik_ ^^
[08:34] <t3hfr3ak> i need help installing the NVIDIA DRIVER
[08:34] <sercik_> thank you very much
[08:34] <AFaith> t3hfr3ak: try ENVI
[08:34] <AFaith> ;))
[08:34] <t3hfr3ak> ENVI?
[08:34] <Yorokobi> !nvidia | t3hfr3ak
[08:34] <ubotu> t3hfr3ak: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:34] <sercik_> t3hfr3ak: first go to nvidia site and download
[08:34] <sercik_> then you need to install kernel-headers
[08:34] <AFaith> Yorokobi: better try envi ;) it works better ;)
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> t3hfr3ak: follow the link, that'll help you out
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> AFaith: its also experimental
[08:35] <AFaith> but it really rocks
[08:35] <Yorokobi> The distributed drivers work and are supported.
[08:35] <AFaith> i never had problems with it :)
[08:35] <sercik_> AFaith: you are right but i have had problems to use package precompiled
[08:35] <AFaith> only in Dapper Drake
[08:35] <sercik_> the best way is to compile
[08:35] <AFaith> indeed
[08:35] <sercik_> and then there is a better nvidia application that works only with drivers downloaded and compiled
[08:36] <AFaith> btw, can anyone provide me some help with CUPS ?
[08:37] <sercik_> AFaith: what do you need?
[08:37] <AFaith> i can't acces the CUPS admin interface via http://localhost:631
[08:37] <navets> can anyone help me with my sound. It is super low compared to windows and I have no master volume control
[08:37] <AFaith> it keeps telling me something it's dezactivated
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> navets: open up alsamixer in konsole
[08:38] <AFaith> i've tried to allow CUPS user and procces to acces the shadow file in /etc but noup, it doesn't work :(
[08:38] <sercik_> try to restart cups with /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[08:38] <dcorbin> Is there a good "Kubunut for the experienced Linux user" guide somewhere?
[08:38] <navets> Admiral_Chicago: i did but i am unable to change my master control volume
[08:38] <sercik_> do you access with localhost:631
[08:39] <AFaith> sercik_: yes I do
[08:39] <sercik_> you can't connect?
[08:39] <sercik_> try to see in /var/log/cups/errors......
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> odd.
[08:39] <AFaith> wait a minute
[08:39] <navets> Admiral_Chicago: yes but i can change pcm
[08:39] <sercik_> yes
[08:40] <navets> Admiral_Chicago: pcm changes my volume levle but it doesnt go very high, i can barley hear anything
[08:40] <AFaith> f***
[08:40] <AFaith> it doesn't connect at all :((
[08:40] <sercik_> have you seen the log??
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i'm not good with sound, sorry navets
[08:41] <sercik_> the best things is that you empty log than try to connect and then see logs
[08:41] <sercik_> webmin have problems with dependencies
[08:41] <AFaith> sercik_: what is he asking for ?
[08:42] <AFaith> take my advice, and install the tar gzipped version because it's a much easier and safer
[08:42] <sercik_> he installed but then at the end of installation ask for some libraries to configure
[08:42] <sercik_> FxxK
[08:43] <sercik_> webmin is not good under ubuntu
[08:43] <AFaith> sercik_: i use webmin under ubuntu dapper ;) for 3 monthis
[08:43] <AFaith> months*
[08:43] <AFaith> it really rocks!
[08:43] <AFaith> try installinsg something with apt-get
[08:43] <AFaith> if it manages to install right
[08:43] <AFaith> the dependencies are not a problem
[08:43] <AFaith> if not
[08:44] <navets> Admiral_Chicago: np thx anyway
[08:44] <AFaith> it will ask you too run with some argument
[08:44] <sercik_> i have manually installed that libraries and now seems work
[08:44] <AFaith> i don't remember it now
[08:45] <AFaith> :)
[08:45] <AFaith> i'll join this channel later
[08:45] <AFaith> now
[08:45] <AFaith> i'm going to spread ubuntu :))
[08:45] <AFaith> on my friends pc's
[08:45] <AFaith> :))
[08:45] <ubuntu__> the KDE channel pisses me off every time I use it.  maybe I'll switch to GNOME
[08:46] <sercik_> AFaith:  so the problem with cups?
[08:46] <ubuntu__> I messed up my computer installing KDE4 Alpha.  I guess I need to do a complete reinstall
[08:46] <navets> does anyone know if there is a way i can reinstall my sound driver
[08:46] <AFaith> sercik_: got to go now :)) maybe later :)
[08:46] <siegmundt> hi
[08:48] <sercik_> oooookkkkkkkkk
[08:48] <sercik_> sorry how can i create user and associate it to a group??
[08:48] <ubuntu__> how can I access my files in the borked Kubuntu from the Live CD
[08:48] <sercik_> useradd -m dino -g studio is right??
[08:49] <sercik_> dino is the user and studio is the group
[08:50] <angeldarkholme> hi....could you pelase help me with this: I have a windows partition and I would like to have administrator rights on it with my normal user...I mean not being root in linux...how can i do this?
[08:50] <Bilford> How can I access my files on the Kubuntu harddrive from the Live CD
[08:51] <angeldarkholme> hola?
[08:51] <SSJ_GZ> Bilford: I can't remember for sure, but opening Konqueror and entering media:// in the navigation bar should be a start.
[08:51] <marko> yes
[08:52] <Bilford> SSJ_GZ: ty
[08:52] <marko> i think they are mounted at startup
[08:52] <SSJ_GZ> Bilford: Whoops - should be media:/
[08:52] <Bilford> ok
[08:52] <angeldarkholme> do you know how can i erase, update etc. my windows partition files without being root in linux?
[08:53] <sercik_> you need to mount a partition with special options
[08:53] <sercik_> see the command man mount
[08:53] <angeldarkholme> :O
[08:53] <Bilford> ok
[08:53] <angeldarkholme> but...it looks like the partitions are always mounted
[08:53] <sercik_> angeldarkholme: is not a simple task :)
[08:53] <angeldarkholme> i mean at the beginning
[08:53] <Bilford> the special options begin username password?
[08:53] <sercik_> you need to umount and then mount again setting permission to user
[08:54] <Bilford> oh
[08:54] <angeldarkholme> is there any config file to
[08:54] <angeldarkholme> set it up?
[08:54] <sercik_> you need to add some lines to /etc/fstab
[08:54] <angeldarkholme> great...that's a start....i'll search for it in google...thanks for the help
[08:55] <sercik_> angeldarkholme: i don't remember now so i can't help you more
[08:55] <sercik_> windows is ntfs??
[08:55] <sercik_> if so you need to install ntfs-3g to have support for writng
[08:55] <Sanne> angeldarkholme: I can paste you the line I added for my win98 fat32 partitions on Dapper, if that helps.
[08:55] <Bilford> hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999
[08:56] <Bilford> maybe I can create a new user
[08:58] <omega_point> Hi. Is there an equivalent tool for chkdsk in Kubuntu?
[08:59] <omega_point> Hello?
[08:59] <ogzy> hey
[08:59] <derheacker> hi
[09:00] <Sanne> omega_point: yes, command is fsck. Best read up on it beforehand with "man fsck".
[09:00] <ogzy> anybody help me for mp3 support for kubuntu
[09:00] <omega_point> Sanne:  thanks a lot
[09:00] <Sanne> omega_point: you're welcome :)
[09:01] <ogzy> can u help me for mp3 support
[09:01] <Bilford> when I open Konq and type media:/  it shows my harddrives, but I cant mount them
[09:01] <Bilford> hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999
[09:01] <Sanne> !mp3 | ogzy
[09:01] <ubotu> ogzy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:01] <omega_point> ogzy: I can help you with that one. One possibility is for you to install Xine extra plugins
[09:02] <ogzy> omega_point: but how
[09:02] <omega_point> Mine is in spanish, but there should be an option "add/remove programs"
[09:02] <omega_point> there you can type "mp3"
[09:02] <omega_point> and then
[09:03] <omega_point> in Multimedia you can click Xine extra plug in
[09:03] <omega_point> and apply, or something like that
[09:04] <derheacker> tach
[09:04] <ogzy> omega_point: i can't see
[09:04] <omega_point> what is it you can't see?
[09:05] <meself> does anyone here have problems with beryl ...like titlebar missing?
[09:05] <ogzy> omega_point: i that said no results
[09:05] <omega_point> if you write "mp3" it says no results? mm
[09:06] <omega_point> perhaps you have to enable multiverse and so
[09:06] <phnom> meself: are your window decorator running? like emerald or aquamarine
[09:07] <Sanne> ogzy: why don't you try to read the link I gave you through ubotu? Should help, really.
[09:07] <omega_point> meself: do you have and nvidia card?
[09:07] <leo> meself: yes, i have that problem too
[09:07] <Skuller> !skype | Skuller
[09:07] <cables> !multimedia | ogzy
[09:07] <ubotu> ogzy: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[09:07] <leo> meself: but i haven't figured out how to solve it yet
[09:07] <meself> no it is not...
[09:08] <meself> i am using a nvidia card
[09:08] <omega_point> well
[09:08] <meself> it says to set AddRGBGLXVisuals in xorg.conf
[09:08] <meself> but still it is not working
[09:08] <omega_point> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_nVidia
[09:09] <Faderhval> uhm... i've just downloaded my gfx driver but its in *.run how do i execute that???
[09:09] <ogzy> omega_point: can i change source.list
[09:09] <omega_point> try where it says "an automatic easy solution..."
[09:12] <meself> let me restart and see
[09:12] <meself> exit
[09:12] <meself> opps
[09:12] <Skuller> meself: hehe, try the konsole instead ;)
[09:13] <navets> anyone know how to reinstall a sound driver?
[09:13] <Skuller> !sound | navets
[09:13] <ubotu> navets: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:14] <navets> Skuller thx
[09:16] <Faderhval> hey again guys have a new problem here (sorry :) i'm trying to install my gfx driver but i get an error saying that my version of X doesn't have a matching x720 dir??
[09:16] <meself> beryl works fine now...thanks omega-point
[09:16] <omega_point> meself:  my pleasure
[09:17] <n8k99> ho do i add a printer which is plugged straight into the back of a router?
[09:19] <mimeyer> test
[09:32] <venky> is anyone on gutsy kubuntu?
[09:33] <Roadrunner343> Hey guys, Im a newbie to Kubuntu... I havent used it in a loooong time. I can't remember how to gain access to the /etc folder... I need root access
[09:33] <davo> while i was installing a lib using adept my system froze ( i dunno if because of that action or any other reason). After about 10 mins waiting, i had to brutally switch the system off as both keyboard and mouse were not responding.  When restarted, I tried opening Adept again and it said i can't modify anything as another process is using the packge system databes.  I checked the processes using KSysGuard, but could not find anything
[09:33] <davo> apparently related th apt or similar.  Any clue?
[09:33] <Roadrunner343> I dont want to log in as root, so how would I use sudo to create a new text file? I dont remember exactly how sudo works
[09:34] <Skrot-> sudo <command>
[09:34] <Roadrunner343> say what?
[09:34] <Skrot-> sudo nano myfile.txt for instance
[09:34] <Skrot-> That will start nano editing the file myfile.txt
[09:34] <Roadrunner343> Im a complete newb... I just wanted to right click, new text document, so I could make a file required to install my modem
[09:35] <venky> anyone hasa intel pro wireless 3945 on gutsy?
[09:35] <Skrot-> ah, I dunno how to do it using GUI
[09:35] <Roadrunner343> Ah. I see. Let me look up exactly what it is I needed done again so you can tell me what commands I need to use.
[09:36] <dextrone> can anyone tell me how to use the root account in the live cd
[09:37] <dextrone> I want the pass
[09:39] <davo> While i was installing a lib using adept my system froze ( i dunno if because of that action or any other reason). After about 10 mins waiting, i had to brutally switch the system off as both keyboard and mouse were not responding.
[09:40] <Roadrunner343> oh hey... I have a question again
[09:40] <davo>  When I restarted, I tried opening Adept again and it said i can't modify anything as another process is using the packge system databases.  I checked the active processes using KSysGuard, but could not find anything which seems to be related with apt.   Any clue ??
[09:40] <venky> anyone using kubuntu gutsy?
[09:41] <JohnFlux_> davo: i think there's a lock file you might have to delete
[09:41] <Roadrunner343> In the old version of Kubuntu (I dont remember which one) I used to be able to download all sorts of programs that weren't designed for KDE. With the new version it has all apps for GNOME greyed out...
[09:41] <JohnFlux_> davo: close adept etc
[09:41] <Roadrunner343> how do I get to download and install all of these programs for GNOME into kubuntu?
[09:41] <JohnFlux_> davo: and from the command line do    sudo apt-get update
[09:41] <JohnFlux_> davo: that might give you a better error
[09:41] <JohnFlux_> davo: try asking in #ubuntu   as well
[09:42] <davo> ok JohnFlux_   wil try that and let you know.  Thanks for now
[09:42] <Roadrunner343> Again, how can I make it so I can download and install Gnome apps and run them in KUBUNTU? They are all grey right now and wont let me select them
[09:44] <CrapfloodTroll> Hi, I am Darl McBride. I also go by SCOTroll.
[09:44] <premier> hello, I just completed a fsck on my file system
[09:44] <premier> /dev/sda3: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
[09:44] <premier>   <- is that a good thing?
[09:44] <marko> Roadrunner343 if you install it with apt-get or adept
[09:44] <CrapfloodTroll> Yes.
[09:45] <marko> you have no problems
[09:45] <premier> cool
[09:45] <marko> but if you install a downloaded file from net
[09:45] <CrapfloodTroll> That's all you can hope for if you aren't running UFS.
[09:45] <Roadrunner343> Marko: I have tried installing it with adept, but the applications are listed in Grey and will not let me download and install them
[09:45] <marko> ?
[09:46] <marko> wich programs
[09:46] <marko> ?
[09:46] <Roadrunner343> I need to know how so I can download and install Firefox for sure, and then GIMP as well (Graphic Designer)
[09:46] <Roadrunner343> however, there are some others too... all programs that are not designed for KDE are listed in Grey when I open up adept to install new apps
[09:46] <Roadrunner343> and it wont let me install anything but KDE applications
[09:47] <marko> try refreshing the list
[09:47] <edward> how  do you add easycam for logitech 4000 web cam?
[09:47] <kristina> hi, does the kde4games package break your installation as well?
[09:48] <Roadrunner343> I have, that isnt the problem. You know it has the description of programs and the little icon for the program? For all apps that arent for KDE, they are all listed in grey and I cannot download and install them. I am using Feisty Fawn btw
[09:49] <marko> try install with cli
[09:49] <marko> sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:50] <marko> or sudo apt-get install gimp
[09:50] <Roadrunner343> ok, Ill have to try that later
[09:50] <Roadrunner343> right now i am running in windows
[09:50] <marko> ok
[09:50] <Roadrunner343> still, I would like to know how to get adept to work... because its much easier to use and install programs in bulk...
[09:50] <Roadrunner343> and because you can add more repositories and stuff too it...
[09:50] <ChuckNorrisTroll> Hilarious Chuck Norris joke #1 Chuck Norris doesn't need root access.
[09:55] <maxcxam>    
[09:56] <Skuller> !ru | maxcxam
[09:56] <ogzy_> how can i listen my mp3s
[09:56] <maxcxam> #ubuntu-ru
[09:56] <ubotu> maxcxam:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:56] <Skuller> !mp3 | ogzy_
[09:56] <ubotu> ogzy_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:57] <ChuckNorrisTroll> mp3 sucks, use wav.
[09:57] <Jaralm> hello evereyone
[10:00] <marko> ChuckNorrisTroll flac is the best
[10:00] <ubuntu__> how do I mount my HD from the Live CD
[10:01] <Bilford> Im at  media:/  in konq, but permission problems wont let me mount
[10:01] <marko> change them
[10:01] <marko> in right click properties
[10:02] <Bilford> theres no permissions
[10:02] <marko> try to open it with sudo
[10:02] <Bilford> ok
[10:03] <Skuller> !flash | Skuller
[10:03] <Bilford> marko: that worked.  ty
[10:04] <fyrmedic> How do I reset my eht0 settings to default?
[10:06] <marko> Bilford just dont delete something important
[10:07] <Bilford> Im going to have to do a complete reformat/reinstall
[10:07] <Bilford> KDE4 Alpha messed up my whole computer
[10:07] <Bungler> how can i acess a hard disk connected after install
[10:07] <Bungler> ?
[10:08] <Bilford> either that or I have a virus
[10:10] <f3n1x> hi!
[10:14] <josh__> Why does every window I open start in one of the corners no matter where i move it to
[10:14] <josh__> It seems kind of weird
[10:16] <Bilford> wheres the trash folder
[10:16] <Bilford> nm
[10:16] <Odi> hello
[10:16] <Fahuadai> hi odi
[10:17] <Odi> can please anybody help me... pcmcia usb card not working
[10:17] <Bilford> actually, yes. where is the trash folder
[10:17] <Odi> recognized, even recognizing the external dvd, but when a disk is inserted stops working
[10:17] <Odi> and also the other pcmcia card until I remove the pcmcia usb
[10:17] <Fahuadai> bilford: you see the trash icon on the kde panel?
[10:18] <GWillakers> Nanu: chmod o+x filename
[10:18] <GWillakers> Nanu: ./filename
[10:18] <Bilford> Fahuadai: nm i found it.  it's .Trash-0/files
[10:18] <ogzy_> can u help me for playing mp3s
[10:19] <Fahuadai> left click it once and open in  new window. or froma  terminal:  cd trash:/
[10:19] <cables> !multimedia | ogzy_
[10:19] <ubotu> ogzy_: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[10:19] <Fahuadai> ogzy: in amarok?
[10:20] <Bilford> Fahuadai: I was looking for it on a mounted HD.  Im on the Live CD now
[10:20] <Odi> any idea please?
[10:20] <Dekkard> anyone running the kde4 packages?
[10:21] <Fahuadai> bilford: kk.
[10:21] <tailsfan> Dekkard: No
[10:21] <Dekkard> leave them alone than eh?
[10:21] <Bilford> Im trying to delete these files off my HD
[10:22] <Bilford> But it just moved them to a Trash folder.  and I cant empty that trash
[10:22] <tailsfan> Yeah, 4 is a beta thing and not to be trusted at the moment
[10:22] <Dekkard> coo
[10:22] <Bilford> I installed KDE4 and it broke my computer.  Im on the LIve CD now and will have to do a complete reinstall
[10:22] <Dekkard>  i was just wondering with all the news about the alpha release.. but.. im such a DE whore it prolly can wait
[10:22] <Bilford> and the people in KDE chaneel will just laugh at you and not help
[10:22] <Dekkard> Bilford:  man that stinks
[10:23] <Dekkard> Bilford: cant you just do something wierd like install fluxbox..  uninstall kde all.. and reinstall?
[10:23] <tailsfan> Weirdly though with Kubuntu, I can't install my USB Hard Drive
[10:24] <Bilford> Dekkard: idk
[10:24] <Dekkard> idk?
[10:24] <Bilford> I dont know
[10:24] <Dekkard> ahh
[10:24] <Dekkard> sorry man..
[10:24] <Bilford> first I have to delete these files.  I have 0b left on this HD
[10:24] <Dekkard> arrrgh
[10:25] <LordGreyhound> does anyone know if I can install the bluetooth and HP utilities that are available in kubuntu, in ubuntu ?
[10:25] <tailsfan> Yes, Thourgh Synaptic
[10:26] <LordGreyhound> good :D
[10:26] <LordGreyhound> I'm running the kubuntu live cd now and I don't like the interface as much as I liked the ubuntu one
[10:27] <LordGreyhound> but kubuntu does have does little utilities that I couldn't find in the ubuntu live cd :)
[10:27] <tailsfan> but kubuntu actually contains a CD Burning App
[10:27] <LordGreyhound> doesn't ubuntun have one as well ?
[10:28] <LordGreyhound> *ubuntu
[10:28] <tailsfan> Yeah, but it doesn't support audio burning
[10:28] <LordGreyhound> aha..
[10:28] <tailsfan> or mixed mode burning
[10:28] <LordGreyhound> can't I install that in ubuntu also ? I assume yo're talking about K3b
[10:29] <tailsfan> Yes I am and Yes you can
[10:29] <tailsfan> anyone order from Shipit in here?
[10:29] <GnomeRules> I have a question
[10:30] <tailsfan> Yes Gnome
[10:30] <GnomeRules> Why doesn't kubuntu use Gnome, a more free destop environment?
[10:30] <tailsfan> Kubuntu is to KDE as Ubuntu is to GNOME
[10:30] <tailsfan> it's meant to have the Desktop Environment
[10:30] <KDERules> GnomeRules: Because Gnome's gtk2 is unresponsive and slow.
[10:30] <sybux> Hi all, I'm looking for an application for mixing mp3 under kde/ubuntu
[10:31] <tailsfan> audaicyt did you try?
[10:31] <tailsfan> audacity*
[10:31] <jsubl2> so KDERules and GnomeRules is the same  person
[10:31] <GnomeRules> No.
[10:31] <sybux> tailsfan: nope, I do not know any1 !
[10:32] <strabes> does anyone have any recommendations for ergonomic keyboards that work well with linux? Preferably one where the media buttons work and everything.
[10:33] <tailsfan> Why, Your's doesn't work now?
[10:33] <GnomeRules> K in KDE stands for Kommunist.
[10:34] <KDERules> Kommunism is better than nazis.
[10:34] <tailsfan> >:-( No it doesn't
[10:34] <Lynoure> hmph
[10:34] <jsubl2> dont feed the trolls
[10:36] <GnomeRules> KDE is from Trolltech, who steals the work of the GNU.
[10:36] <KonqiKid> I like the new k3b
[10:37] <sybux> tails
[10:37] <KDE_Fanboy> But KDE has more features than Gnome!
[10:37] <KonqiKid> The things that are on Ubuntu can be easily obtained froma  CD or by teh internet
[10:37] <sybux> KonqiKid: audacity is for editing not mixing :(
[10:37] <KonqiKid> Sorry, my bad
[10:37] <KonqiKid> then I don't know then
[10:38] <KonqiKid> I just like listening to music
[10:38] <sybux> ^^
[10:38] <KDE_Fanboy> sybux: Insteal KDE!
[10:38] <GnomeRules> No, Gnome!
[10:38] <GnomeRules> KDE steals opensource code.
[10:38] <sybux> KDEfanboy: ???
[10:39] <KonqiKid> NVM, and let's not fight, Linux Desktop Environments are all equal anyway :)
[10:39] <LordGreyhound> can I use ktorrent under ubuntu ?
[10:39] <KonqiKid> Yes you can
[10:40] <KonqiKid> anything KDE you can basically use on Ubuntu
[10:40] <LordGreyhound> or here's a better question.. do all KDE progs also work udner gnome ? :)
[10:40] <LordGreyhound> lol
[10:40] <LordGreyhound> u read my mind
[10:40] <Dekkard> only if you have kdelibs installed
[10:40] <KonqiKid> I happen to liek k3b, Kopete, Konversation and KSCD
[10:40] <LordGreyhound> I'm guessing I can get those too
[10:40] <KonqiKid> Synaptic does it for you
[10:40] <LordGreyhound> the kdelibs
[10:40] <Dekkard> which will be pretty much a cinch.. because apt does depencancies... blah blah blah
[10:40] <Lynoure> sybux: there is dbmix at least
[10:40] <LordGreyhound> cool
[10:41] <sybux> Lynoure: thx I'll check
[10:41] <LordGreyhound> has anyone tried running adobe CS3 in ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[10:41] <KonqiKid> Who uses XMMS in here?
[10:41] <KonqiKid> with WIne?
[10:41] <nosrednaekim> is anyone here familiar with KVM?
[10:41] <LordGreyhound> sure
[10:41] <premier_> hello, my konqueror toolbar is broken.  I moved my ext3 partition around, and the reformat went smoothly and everything else is working perfectly.  However, for some reason the konqueror bookmarks toolbar is broken (unrelated?)
[10:41] <KonqiKid> No I'm not
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> premier_: that happened to me too....
[10:43] <Lynoure> sybux: and galan... maybe I'll find others too. But I have not tried any myself
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> can't fix it either.. (not that i've really tried)
[10:43] <sybux> btw, any1 know which package I need to install to read DVD uner kaffeine ?
[10:43] <KonqiKid> libdvdcss2, hold on, I'll get you a linl
[10:43] <KonqiKid> link*
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> !DVD | sybux
[10:43] <ubotu> sybux: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:43] <LordGreyhound> how do I get root permissions ?
[10:43] <LjL> !root > LordGreyhound    (LordGreyhound, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:44] <LordGreyhound> thanks :)
[10:44] <sybux> oky
[10:44] <Lynoure> sybux: http://www.openjay.org/ could have interesting info too
[10:45] <sybux> Lynoure: thx, I was just looking also on the site !!
[10:45] <KonqiKid> LordGreyHound: http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb
[10:45] <Dekkard> vlc rocks
[10:45] <KonqiKid> Ye sit does
[10:45] <KonqiKid> but i use XMMS to play music
[10:46] <Dekkard> kde needs a good mpd frontend
[10:46] <KonqiKid> mpd?
[10:46] <Lynoure> sybux: :)
[10:46] <Dekkard> music player deamon
[10:46] <LordGreyhound> I'm trying to access a drive off the kubuntu live cd through a command in the terminal because I need root privilages
[10:46] <Dekkard> its nice.. works like client and server..
[10:46] <LordGreyhound> is this the right command? 0.0.0.0 ?
[10:47] <LordGreyhound> sudo \dev\disk\by-label\Extra
[10:47] <LordGreyhound> 0.0.0.0 was a typo :)
[10:47] <Dekkard> i think the salskes are the wrong direction
[10:47] <Dekkard> slashes
[10:48] <Dekkard> man.. i gotta get mothers day stuffies
[10:48] <Dekkard> Irssi 0.8.10 (20051211) - http://irssi.org/
[10:48] <LordGreyhound> sudo: /dev/disk/by-label/Extra: command not found
[10:48] <KonqiKid> Whos using Feisty right now, just for curiousity
[10:48] <Dekkard> hmm
[10:48] <Dekkard>  /me is
[10:49] <Dekkard> i would sudo konqueror
[10:49] <LordGreyhound> Live CD here :)
[10:49] <Dekkard> that should allow you access
[10:50] <Roaming> hi all
[10:50] <jeroen__> Hello
[10:50] <Dekkard> l8rs
[10:50] <Roaming> i'm having ubuntu issues.  can someone help me?
[10:51] <LordGreyhound> Dekkard:  it worked
[10:51] <LordGreyhound> thanks
[10:51] <avenger> nabend
[10:52] <avenger> jemand wach?
[10:52] <Roaming> can anyone help me w/ ubuntu issue?
[10:52] <Dekkard> np dood
[10:52] <Dekkard> Roaming:  state your problem
[10:52] <Dekkard> how else can we tell if we can help you?
[10:52] <Roaming> i just installed.  sound not working.  i'm new to linux and ubuntu
[10:52] <Dekkard> ok
[10:53] <KonqiKid> Roaming, What sound card do you have?
[10:53] <jeroen__> How can I play mp3 on Kubuntu?
[10:53] <KonqiKid> One way is to install XMMS with mpg321
[10:53] <Dekkard> first things fires.. click main menu> system>preferences>sound
[10:54] <Roaming> k
[10:54] <Roaming> done
[10:54] <corey> Do anyone know if there is a way to change the login screen?
[10:54] <jsubl2> !mp3
[10:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:54] <Dekkard> ok.. there are settings there.. try testing by clicking on the test buttons
[10:55] <Dekkard> you may need to change you device or arch
[10:55] <Dekkard> bbl
[10:56] <yotux> can anyone help with a possible nvidia issue
[10:56] <jsubl2> yotux: just ask.  you might get lucky
[10:56] <yotux> getting an error of: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:56] <sybux> just a little question : which package shall I need to install so that I can compile source file. I was remember of a thing like build-essential but not sure
[10:56] <jsubl2> !nvidia
[10:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:57] <Roaming> dekkard... i tried each setting under sound events and nothing worked :(
[10:58] <KonqiKid> Raoming, What version are you using?
[10:58] <Roaming> fiesty
[10:58] <KonqiKid> Weird, Feisty's Sounds works fine for me
[10:58] <KonqiKid> What soundcard are you using?
[10:59] <Roaming> soundblaster
[10:59] <phoenixbyrd> moo
[10:59] <KonqiKid> Even Weirder
[10:59] <sayers> What packages are needed for 3d Chess
[10:59] <KonqiKid> sybux, yes it's build-essential you install
[10:59] <Roaming> i know... fiesty works fine on my ancient laptop
[10:59] <Roaming> sb audigy
[11:00] <Roaming> are there drivers i can try like i do in windows?
[11:00] <Roaming> i'm a total linux noob
[11:00] <sayers> Drivers you try?
[11:00] <KonqiKid> Hmm, let me see something
[11:01] <Roaming> btw, when the testing pipeline window comes up, the progress bar just sits there.  is that ok?
[11:01] <RytmenPinnen_> are there any security updates in kubuntu? like in suse yast had some security updates to be made a litle now and then
[11:02] <LjL> RytmenPinnen_: yes
[11:03] <RytmenPinnen_> where are those to be found?
[11:03] <LjL> RytmenPinnen_: in the feisty-security repository (which is enabled automatically)
[11:03] <KonqiKid> update your package lists
[11:03] <LjL> RytmenPinnen_: just take care to enable it for the universe and multiverse components too, if you enable those
[11:05] <Roaming> konqikid... any ideas?
[11:05] <KonqiKid> No I Don't
[11:05] <KonqiKid> I thought alsaconf was in Synaptic, but it's not
[11:07] <jsubl2> KonqiKid: alsa-utils i think
[11:07] <KonqiKid> then try typing in "sudo alsaconf" and see if it works
[11:10] <jsubl2> KonqiKid: check out /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:10] <KonqiKid> So, who liek to play KFoulEggs?
[11:10] <KonqiKid> I'm fine, my sound works
[11:10] <icebreaker> hello
[11:10] <KonqiKid> Hi
[11:12] <icebreaker> I've got a problem... when i start apt (or the other programs with apt function) I get the mistake that another apt progress is running to time but I kill all apt task' and shutdown my Computer.... what can I do now? please help me
[11:14] <jsubl2> icebreaker: tried apt-get -f install on the command line
[11:14] <icebreaker> one moment plesase
[11:14] <icebreaker> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:15] <jsubl2> so...  do it --> dpkg --configure -a
[11:15] <jsubl2> it wont hurt.... promise
[11:15] <jsubl2> never has me anyway
[11:16] <KonqiKid> Yes, it definitely works
[11:16] <KonqiKid> I had to do it one
[11:16] <KonqiKid> once*
[11:17] <sayers> Are there any KDE versions of somthing similar to Boabob
[11:17] <KonqiKid> Boabob?
[11:18] <icebreaker> thx it works ^^
[11:18] <icebreaker> you are the best
[11:18] <jsubl2> yw
[11:18] <KonqiKid> No Problem :)
[11:18] <sayers> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd1?action=AttachFile&amp;do=get&amp;target=boabob.png
[11:18] <KonqiKid> One Second, installing msttcorefonts
[11:20] <peu> evening all :)
[11:20] <KonqiKid> Hello
[11:21] <rbrunhuber> Hello
[11:21] <KonqiKid> Anyone know where I can go and get Konqueror Extensions?
[11:21] <RealisticDragon> hmm not sure but if you find out please let me know :)
[11:21] <jeroen__> Hello
[11:21] <RealisticDragon> have you tried kde-look? has lots of k related extension stuff
[11:21] <KonqiKid> lol Dragon, I wish
[11:22] <RealisticDragon> kde-apps.org has stuff as well
[11:22] <jeroen__> How do I play mp3's? and how do I install programs?
[11:22] <KonqiKid> yeah, but I meant for stuff liek FF's DownThemAll! and UnPlug
[11:22] <KonqiKid> Programs = Adept
[11:22] <KonqiKid> MP3 = Install XMMS with mpg321
[11:22] <jsubl2> !mp3 > jeroen__
[11:22] <RealisticDragon> jeroen__: to play mp3s the easiest way is probably with medibuntu (you can find out how on the wiki, one sec and ill get a link)
[11:23] <rbrunhuber> Peu: what extensions? Some plugins/etensions can be used from mozilla by importing them from menu.
[11:23] <RealisticDragon> jeroen__:  http://revis.co.uk/site/?q=node/149
[11:23] <RealisticDragon> didnt know that rbrunhuber
[11:23] <RealisticDragon> i use firefox even in kde myself, prefer the font rendering :o
[11:24] <luca> hi everyone
[11:24] <RealisticDragon> hi
[11:24] <jeroen__> thanks
[11:24] <alsamixxer> Hi ! how do ia change my soundcard in alsamixer
[11:24] <luca> I have a problem with KDE on my laptop - the function+F10 key should activate CD tray expulsion, in GNOME it functions, but not in KDE
[11:25] <luca> does anyone have any idea about how to solve this problem?
[11:25] <jeroen__> I'll try to find out how to install Medibunto
[11:25] <rbrunhuber> Realisticdragon use firefiox too. Has a few less probs with some sites. But is badly integrated in kde
[11:26] <RealisticDragon> jeroen__: there is more here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[11:26] <KonqiKid> rbrunhuber: Have you tried UnPlug and DownThemAll! on Konqueror?
[11:26] <rbrunhuber> Luca: try filing a bug with specs of your system.
[11:27] <luca> rbrunhuber ok thanks
[11:27] <rbrunhuber> Konqikid: no i use ff for these.
[11:28] <DerekS> how do i setup avahi in kubuntu? I want to stream from an mt-daapd on one box to amarok on another
[11:28] <rbrunhuber> Luca: if you hack this for your system this only helps you. If the bug is solved everybody is helped
[11:30] <rbrunhuber> dereks: avahi should work out of the box. Try installing avahi discover to verify
[11:30] <DerekS> rbrunhuber: i went to zeroconf:/
[11:30] <DerekS> and it shows my server
[11:30] <jeroen__> I don't know where to download it, there are a lot of differant files :s
[11:30] <DerekS> when i click on that
[11:30] <DerekS> it doesn't actually show mt-daapd
[11:31] <DerekS> jsut a fake thing i put in to test
[11:32] <luca> rbrunhuber: I have NO idea of how to hack this though ;)
[11:32] <luca> I mean, I do not even know where to begin to look :)
[11:32] <rbrunhuber> Dereks: You have to intall mt* on your server. Avahi is just a mech to negotiate ips and services
[11:33] <DerekS> rbrunhuber: i just got it working
[11:33] <DerekS> rbrunhuber: haha i had that installed
[11:33] <rbrunhuber> Luca: there is some special key howto AFAIK
[11:33] <luca> on the wiki?
[11:34] <jsubl2> luca rbrunhuber i looked thru the keyboard shortcuts in kde control center and I don't see a shortcut for eject cd
[11:36] <rbrunhuber> Luca: can t remember where i read this. Maybe you have to ask google.
[11:36] <KonqiKid> Back, had to go shomewhere real quick
[11:37] <RealisticDragon> luca: if you prefer launchpad.net (the ubuntu support website) is a good place to ask the more tricky questions :)
[11:37] <KonqiKid> Is there a program that is similiar to foobar2000
[11:37] <rbrunhuber> Realisticdragon: yeah right the support section is really good
[11:38] <RealisticDragon> its not that we dont want to help but im afraid that at least in my case i dont know how to help :o
[11:39] <floojah> hello
[11:39] <KonqiKid> Hiya :)
[11:40] <rbrunhuber> Luca: you coukld also try to ask in -devel if you plan to provide a fix yourself. A bug is a help, though
[11:40] <floojah> i'm very new to linux and i would like some help please
[11:40] <KonqiKid> Sure floojah, go aheag
[11:40] <floojah> how do you navigate in terminal?
[11:40] <knapp> Where do I need to be for help with beryl?
[11:40] <floojah> i'm trying to install things...
[11:40] <jeroen__> I'm downloading VLC media player with the Adept installer
[11:41] <KonqiKid> sudo apt-get install "nameofsoftware"
[11:41] <rbrunhuber> Floojah: you came to the right place i hope now ask the right questions :-)
[11:41] <knapp> floojah, if you mean scroll then try Shift+scroll or shift+up arrow
[11:41] <floojah> i mean to actually move around files and directories
[11:42] <floojah> i mean navigate around them not actually "move" them
[11:42] <knapp> floojah: to move is "mv"
[11:42] <UltimaDude> hi
[11:42] <UltimaDude> How do I stop the bouncing icon everytime something loads?
[11:43] <KonqiKid> What's wrong with that?
[11:43] <knapp> floojah I misread. If you want to move into a different directory, then use "cd <dir>"
[11:43] <rbrunhuber> Floojah: mv source target
[11:43] <Skrot-> kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback
[11:43] <floojah> thank you
[11:44] <Skrot-> UltimaDude: ^ set that to No Busy Cursor
[11:44] <icebreaker> where can I find the icons (for folders etc)#
[11:45] <KonqiKid> or /usr/share/icons/
[11:45] <rbrunhuber> Cu
[11:45] <UltimaDude> Kcontrol?
[11:45] <UltimaDude> Can't find
[11:45] <crazyrobot> icebreaker: or ~/.kde/share/icons
[11:45] <icebreaker> thx
[11:46] <UltimaDude> Thanks
[11:46] <UltimaDude> Its now gone
[11:49] <KonqiKid> Is Easy Ubuntu safe to use?
[11:50] <crimsun> safer than automatix*, certainly.
[11:50] <luca> rbrunhuber ok I will ask :) sorry was writing in the forums.
[11:51] <luca> crimsun: can someone explain to me what is wrong with automatix?
[11:51] <luca> I have used it tons of times and it NEVER gave me any problems whatsoever
[11:51] <KonqiKid> luca: running that with feisty?
[11:51] <jeroen__> How do I install the gimp?
[11:52] <sercik> jeroen__ do you know synaptic
[11:52] <jeroen__> no
[11:52] <aro> jeroen__, sudo apt-get install gimp
[11:52] <sercik> ?
[11:52] <sercik> synaptic is a graphical simple to use package manager
[11:52] <sercik> jeroen__ do you use kubuntu??
[11:52] <luca> KonqiKid yep also, but I used it since Dapper...never a problem
[11:52] <jeroen__> yes
[11:52] <crimsun> luca: there's nothing  /wrong/  with automatix*.  We give you enough rope with which to hang yourself.  When I first encountered it, it was doing all sorts of hackish things.  I've avoided it since then.
[11:53] <luca> crimsun: still not clear :)
[11:53] <UltimaDude> jeroen: Open Konsole
[11:53] <crimsun> luca: you asked what's wrong.  I answered that question.
[11:53] <jeroen__> ok
[11:53] <UltimaDude> jeroen: then type in sudo apt-get install gimp
[11:53] <sercik> jeroen__ synaptic uses gnome library but you can also install it on kubuntu is the best package manager on ubuntu
[11:53] <sercik> open a konsole and do sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:54] <jeroen__> it gave an error
[11:54] <aro> jeroen__, paste it
[11:54] <oliver> hey I got a small problem
[11:54] <sercik> jeroen__ what give an error?
[11:54] <crimsun> luca: if you want me to catalog what  /was/  wrong when I first encountered it, I can do that, but be aware that this list may have changed significantly [seeing how I don't track its development] :  unsafe use of apt-get -y install, unsafe temporary file use, failure to follow Debian Policy.
[11:54] <jeroen__> something like this
[11:55] <luca> uhm ok
[11:55] <jeroen__> this is something from the error         /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:55] <aro> jeroen__, you have something else open that is using the apt-get process
[11:55] <luca> the point is that it never gave me a problem, so I understand it is not very clean, but still it functions....in any case, trying Easy Ubuntu
[11:55] <sercik> lock is before another process is using package
[11:56] <crimsun> luca: again, I personally don't care what you use.  We *ubuntu devs give you plenty of rope with which to hang yourself.
[11:56] <aro> jeroen__, though I'm not sure why you pasted just one thing from the error instead of the error itself
[11:56] <luca> ok ;)
[11:56] <Daisuke_Ido> luca: you're better off learning how to use adept and installing things yourself :)
[11:56] <hruskin> ls
[11:56] <jeroen__> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                         ess using it?
[11:56] <Daisuke_Ido> you're less likely to be immolated in the resulting flame war :)
[11:56] <jeroen__> thats the error
[11:57] <Daisuke_Ido> jeroen__: is adept open?
[11:57] <aro> jeroen__, another process is using the package manager
[11:57] <luca> Daisuke_Ido: I can use adept perfectly well thanks ;) but some programs are not by default in the repos, so... :D
[11:57] <sercik> jeroen__ havr you launched adept manager??
[11:57] <jeroen__> yes
[11:57] <jeroen__> it's downloading VLC
[11:57] <Daisuke_Ido> then you're going to have to wait to apt-get anything
[11:57] <sercik> you can't use another process
[11:57] <oliver> how do I get bluetooth to work in linux?
[11:57] <jeroen__> ow, ok
[11:57] <Daisuke_Ido> can't have two apt processes at once
[11:58] <sercik> apt-get adept synaptic are all programs that uses package databases but only one program at a time can have access to it
[11:58] <jeroen__> and do I always have to install programs like that? with the sudo .....
[11:58] <sercik> sudo is necessary to give you administrator privileges
[11:58] <luca> jeroen_ absolutely NOT :)
[11:58] <UltimaDude> or you won't be root
[11:58] <sercik> is needed for many tasks not only to install a package
[11:59] <sercik> also if you want to edit a system file
[11:59] <luca> (i meant from the command line)
[11:59] <jeroen__> wow, now it works :D
[11:59] <oliver> anyone
[11:59] <sercik> jeroen__ don't you know linux?
[11:59] <jeroen__> no, It's the first time I use it :p
[11:59] <jeroen__> I'm trying to learn it
[11:59] <sercik> ok so you need a manual to read
[11:59] <jeroen__> yeah, probably
[12:00] <sercik> the chat can help you but you need the basis
[12:00] <jeroen__> ok
[12:00] <sercik> because linux is not very simple
[12:00] <jeroen__> I noticed that :p
[12:00] <sercik> but you will love it
[12:00] <jeroen__> I already love it :p
[12:00] <sercik> and kubuntu is one of the simpler distribution
[12:01] <sercik> the most important thing to learn are:
[12:01] <oliver> can anyone help me with bluetooth adaptors?
[12:01] <jeroen__> what's the differance between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[12:01] <UltimaDude> Kubuntu uses KDE
[12:01] <UltimaDude> Ubuntu uses Gnome
[12:01] <jeroen__> what's the best?
[12:01] <sercik> perfect
[12:01] <UltimaDude> It counts on what you want
[12:01] <sercik> i think kubuntu
[12:01] <UltimaDude> i liked Gnome a while ago
[12:01] <UltimaDude> know I like KDE More
[12:02] <sercik> kde is more comlete than gnome i think...
[12:02] <jeroen__> ok
[12:02] <sercik> ad is more simple to use
[12:02] <UltimaDude> Gnome gets more stuff thrown at you
[12:02] <sercik> jeroen__ go into system setting
[12:02] <UltimaDude> and uses up too much monitor space xD
[12:02] <sercik> here you can configure all setting
[12:03] <jeroen__> ok, system setting
[12:03] <knapp> How do I stop KDE tooltips?
[12:03] <sercik> you need to learn this command:
[12:03] <sercik> mount umount
[12:03] <sercik> then the most important configuration files are /etc/fstab
[12:04] <sercik> every user on linux have a personal directory under /home/user_name
[12:04] <jeroen__> ok
[12:04] <sercik> then launch konsole go to /etc for example and try ls -l *
[12:04] <jeroen__> yeah, but I'm kinda installing the gimp :p
[12:05] <sercik> you can see a list of files and before the name you see rwxr-xr-x
[12:05] <sercik> or similar
[12:05] <eams> Hi! someone knows if can I use Beryl if I have a NVIDIA TNT 64?
[12:05] <sercik> this is one importat things on linux
[12:05] <jeroen__> ok
[12:05] <Agron33> Hi all does anyone know why WINE is disabled in Adept installer?
[12:05] <sercik> r= read w = write x = execute
[12:06] <sercik> the first three letters refers to proprietary of file
[12:06] <sercik> the second three to all hat are in the same group
[12:06] <sercik> the last thrre rest of the world
[12:06] <jeroen__> ok
[12:07] <sercik> so for example a file that have rwxr-xr-x could readed writed and executed only from proprietary
[12:07] <eams> sercik, do you know that? excuse me, but I want to use beryl
[12:07] <sercik> eams do you use kubuntu?
[12:07] <eams> Yes, feisty
[12:07] <sercik> i think that a tnt 64 is old
[12:08] <sercik> i don't think that can run beryl good
[12:08] <sercik> do you have installed nvidia drivers??
[12:08] <eams> Mmm
[12:08] <eams> No, I think no
[12:08] <sercik> this is the first thing to do
[12:09] <sercik> you need to install nvidia-legacy-glx
[12:09] <eams> Which is the driver that I need?
[12:09] <sercik> because you have an old card
[12:09] <sercik> eams now i'm not under linux and i don't remember exactly the name but follow me
[12:09] <sercik> open a konsole
[12:09] <eams> Ok, apt-get install nvidia-legacy-glx, isn't it?
[12:10] <eams> I did
[12:10] <sercik> then write sudo apt-cache search nvidia
[12:10] <sercik> in the output should be somrthing that contain legacy
[12:10] <sercik> and then you need also nvidia-kernel-common
[12:11] <sercik> eams have you enabled repository??
[12:11] <eams> restricted-manager - manage non-free hardware drivers
[12:11] <eams> smartdimmer - Change LCD brightness on Geforce 6200Go cards
[12:11] <eams> xserver-xorg-video-nv - X.Org X server -- NV display driver
[12:11] <eams> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-386 - Non-free Linux 2.6.20 modules on 386
[12:11] <einwort> hola alguien me dice como puedo entrar a la red irc-jhispano// hello, how i can go to irc-hispano?
[12:11] <eams> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic - Non-free Linux 2.6.20 modules on x86/x86_64
[12:11] <sercik> no no
[12:11] <sercik> don't paste here
[12:11] <eams> Ok, sorry
[12:12] <sercik> paste under pastebin.ca if you need
[12:12] <sercik> and give me the link
[12:12] <eams> Where?
[12:12] <sercik> eams pastebin.ca is a website where you can paste and then you obtain a link
[12:12] <eams> Ok, give me a second
[12:12] <sercik> you can paste the link so i can open browser and see what you have pasted