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| catid | well, after i lost data the first time my system crashed using XFS, decided to switch to reiserfs | 02:13 |
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| DudeManJer | I know its not the correct room but I wonder if anybody here knows how to assist about the installation process? | 05:08 |
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| yimmmy | help please | 06:40 |
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| yimmmy | helop | 06:48 |
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| RAOF | !ask | yimmmy | 06:50 |
| ubotu | yimmmy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | 06:50 |
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| czarny | hello | 07:38 |
| czarny | I've updated my g/f's laptop yesterday to partly gutsy | 07:38 |
| czarny | and after reboot all kernels see ide disks and cdroms as scsi | 07:38 |
| czarny | instead of hda I get sda | 07:38 |
| czarny | is it normal? | 07:39 |
| czarny | I've overcame this problem, nevertheless after all processes in init went OK I'm asked to pass maintainance password | 07:40 |
| czarny | and when I do, I need to start gdm manually and everything works | 07:41 |
| czarny | nevertheless I don't get any errors, but the maintanance pswd is needed - why? | 07:41 |
| crimsun | yes, it's normal. In fact, that was the movement with edgy, but it got delayed until feity, and bits and pieces ended up being reverted for feisty final | 07:42 |
| crimsun | feisty, even. | 07:42 |
| czarny | why the move? | 07:43 |
| czarny | I'm a PLD (another distro) devleoper and I'd like to hear the reasons | 07:43 |
| czarny | why everything gets emulated (through sg I'd assume?) | 07:43 |
| crimsun | because it makes sense. Upstream (Linux, kernel.org) wants One Interface to Rule Them All. | 07:43 |
| czarny | and that interface to be is scsii :) | 07:44 |
| czarny | ok - and about the init problem ?? | 07:44 |
| crimsun | you likely will find a protracted discussion on the libata devel list(s). | 07:44 |
| czarny | what could cause maintainance passwd ? | 07:44 |
| czarny | there is no error, all services seem to run normal | 07:44 |
| crimsun | is this with 2.6.22-[12] or 2.6.20-15 from feisty? | 07:45 |
| czarny | 2.6.20 | 07:45 |
| crimsun | I can't comment on the former; it doesn't even boot my machines. | 07:45 |
| czarny | well the transition wen't bad for me | 07:46 |
| czarny | UUID's in /etc/fstab got updated to the scsii ones | 07:46 |
| crimsun | need more context. Do you have a digital photo or possibly a dump from a serial console? | 07:46 |
| czarny | but not in /boot/menu.lst | 07:46 |
| czarny | LOL | 07:46 |
| czarny | not really | 07:46 |
| czarny | ok - how could I debug it ?? | 07:46 |
| czarny | is there a ..h m...step by step mode ?? | 07:46 |
| czarny | like every service asks me if it is to be run ? | 07:47 |
| crimsun | not really. | 07:48 |
| czarny | well - the strange thing is, that all servicess pass | 07:49 |
| czarny | in PLD maintance passwd is issued when something breaks | 07:49 |
| czarny | usually quite early | 07:49 |
| czarny | and this seems to show after *all* start | 07:49 |
| crimsun | does starting in recovery mode (the second boot option, which is simply nosplash verbose single) reveal anything? | 07:49 |
| czarny | because when I start gdm and toy with GNOME it seems all run | 07:49 |
| czarny | I need to boot in this mode all the time | 07:50 |
| czarny | but doesn't | 07:50 |
| czarny | when I boot in the normal mode, when spalsh shows, the computer never reaches GDM | 07:50 |
| czarny | It's a hardware problem | 07:50 |
| czarny | some usplash fcked up ati 7500 booting | 07:50 |
| crimsun | what if you choose the normal mode but remove quiet and splash from the kernel command line? | 07:50 |
| czarny | didn't try that | 07:51 |
| czarny | w8 | 07:51 |
| crimsun | we are going through a usplash transition if you haven't kept up with gutsy-changes | 07:51 |
| czarny | crimsun: I don't use ubuntu :) | 07:52 |
| czarny | crimsun: I've installed it on my g/f's laptop :) | 07:52 |
| czarny | crimsun: whoa - works ! | 07:52 |
| czarny | crimsun: THX dude | 07:52 |
| czarny | so now the rescue mode always will issue passwd at the end ? | 07:53 |
| crimsun | only if you've configured a root password. | 07:53 |
| czarny | bout that usplash hung - it's like from...hm...end of edgy? | 07:53 |
| czarny | crimsun: Yea - I think I maby did?? | 07:53 |
| czarny | crimsun: something needed that | 07:53 |
| crimsun | certain video cards act weird with usplash and Xorg | 07:53 |
| crimsun | video's not my strong point (I deal with audio) | 07:53 |
| czarny | crimsun: well there was a time I was making some splash for PLD | 07:53 |
| czarny | and I've toyed around usplash and fbsplash | 07:54 |
| czarny | so usplash doesn't have much options to tweak | 07:54 |
| czarny | but fbsplash has an option which is told to be used, when during boot something shows on top of the splash | 07:54 |
| czarny | like changing consoles make splash dissapear | 07:54 |
| czarny | and when You turn the magical fbsplash option on it forces the splash to stay on top | 07:55 |
| czarny | since usplashes splash stays on top all the time I'd assume that You use that feature by default | 07:55 |
| czarny | and both fbsplash with that feature and usplash make my laptop not display anything else then the splash :) | 07:55 |
| czarny | BTW: NetworkManager 0.6.5 anytime soon ? | 07:56 |
| czarny | I'd pass You some patches, as I've did it for PLD - it compiles and runs | 07:56 |
| czarny | but I've got totally no idea how debs are being build and how You ppl develop Your packages | 07:56 |
| czarny | (and NM 0.6.5 needed some minor patching) | 07:57 |
| tritium | czarny: what's fixed in 0.6.5? I still haven't figured out if its a kernel module or network-manager problem that prevents me from using AR5212 on feisty. | 07:58 |
| czarny | czarny: I totally don't know ;) | 07:58 |
| czarny | czarny: my friend had problems with his card | 07:59 |
| czarny | and asked me to try 0.6.5 | 07:59 |
| czarny | and it worked for him | 07:59 |
| czarny | nevertheless a lot of fuss is out there, especially on Your forums, that 0.6.5 is a magical wand for some ppl who couldn't have used it | 07:59 |
| czarny | I know that some driver issues were fixed and all the magical conecting modes, like EAP2, WPA2 and other certificate types of connectivity has been revised | 08:00 |
| czarny | tritium: but to answer Your question - I'd go wit the network-manager helping, as my friends didn't change any drivers, only NM | 08:01 |
| tritium | hmm, that sounds promising... | 08:02 |
| tritium | I can only connect to open networks currently | 08:02 |
| tritium | Was a little surprised to see feisty release with that bug. I've got to imagine there are a lot of Thinkpad users out there that are affected... | 08:03 |
| tritium | (among others) | 08:03 |
| czarny | tritium: thinkpad?? | 08:08 |
| czarny | tritium: I've got a T42 | 08:08 |
| czarny | and I can connect to a WPA2 TKIP network with a certificate and password | 08:09 |
| tritium | czarny: I've got a T43p with Atheros AR5212 | 08:09 |
| czarny | tritium: aah...so I've got a solution 4 You ;) | 08:10 |
| czarny | tritium: I'll give You my postal address, You'll give my Yours and we're all set ;) | 08:10 |
| czarny | just the switch needed ;) | 08:10 |
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| tritium | czarny: ;) | 08:11 |
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| tritium | czarny: it's actually my employer's | 08:11 |
| czarny | tritium: well - so there's some convincing 4 You to do ;) | 08:12 |
| czarny | tritium: try "Dir Sir, try to think bout it as an upgrade - it's true You'll get an older model, but the upgrade is, that something that didn't work started to!" | 08:12 |
| tritium | I'm sure that'll go over really well ;) | 08:15 |
| czarny | ok - thx dudes | 08:20 |
| tritium | take care, czarny :) | 08:20 |
| czarny | crimsun: especially You - easy thing but made me stope | 08:20 |
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| czarny | Yea - I'm going to - I'm going to my g/f graduatation ceremony | 08:20 |
| czarny | cya | 08:20 |
| czarny | oh - and fetch my someone who knows bout the usplash thing next time | 08:20 |
| czarny | cya | 08:20 |
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| gnomefreak | czarny: the usplash issue will be fixed soon now that UDS is over. hopfully sometime in the next 7 days or so but can promise that since its not my package | 11:40 |
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| czarny | gnomefreak: thx | 11:56 |
| czarny | again bout the hda -> sda stuff | 11:56 |
| czarny | 2.6.22 detects hda again | 11:56 |
| czarny | WTF ?? | 11:56 |
| czarny | what makes a kernel detect stuff normally, and what in the scsii way?? | 11:56 |
| czarny | some package ?? | 11:56 |
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| czarny | initrmafs ? | 11:57 |
| czarny | and what is unknown stanza in init scripts? | 11:58 |
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| gnomefreak | czarny: off hand i dont know, its still a bit early here and i havent booted my gutsy sys in a few days because i havent set it up for building packages yet. | 12:28 |
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| Gearman | exterior monitor does not work | 08:14 |
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| Cas | Hi all, A little question about Gutsy. Will the restricted driver manager still be in it? | 08:29 |
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| Toma- | yep | 08:32 |
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| Cas | Toma-: good, I was a little confused by many comments cause of the free approach | 08:33 |
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| venky | hello is anyone on kubuntu gutsy with intel pro wireless 3945? | 09:32 |
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| venky | anyone using kubuntu gutsy? | 09:40 |
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| teethdood | anyone trying firefox 3? | 12:04 |
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