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| soundray | Hi | 02:35 |
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| BigMac | Hey | 02:36 |
| soundray | What's your chipset | 02:36 |
| soundray | ? | 02:36 |
| BigMac | alright so I have a broadcom chipset which I know are a bi*** to get working | 02:36 |
| soundray | i386 or amd64? | 02:36 |
| BigMac | I have tried following a guide that is made for my laptop, but it is supposedly crap | 02:37 |
| nalioth | or powerpc? :P | 02:37 |
| BigMac | i386 | 02:37 |
| soundray | nalioth: do you mean that old, not officially supported platform? | 02:37 |
| soundray | ;) | 02:37 |
| BigMac | I tried this guide but the first two steps didn't remove ndiswrapper | 02:38 |
| BigMac | http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/2007/01/fixing-wifi-on-dell-1501.html | 02:38 |
| soundray | BigMac: have you seen this: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/feisty-cafuego/all/ | 02:38 |
| BigMac | then if you scroll down I followed the poster named c0ld instructions | 02:39 |
| BigMac | using bcm43xx-fwcutter driver | 02:39 |
| BigMac | no I will check it now | 02:39 |
| BigMac | anything is worth an attempt | 02:39 |
| soundray | Re. removing ndiswrapper: | 02:40 |
| soundray | The kernel module is part of the default install. Make sure it is not listed in /etc/modules | 02:41 |
| soundray | You may also want to blacklist it: sudo sh -c 'echo blacklist ndiswrapper >/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ndiswrapper' | 02:42 |
| soundray | Although that's probably overkill | 02:42 |
| soundray | But you do want to be sure that the rmmod worked. | 02:42 |
| BigMac | the rmmod did nothing | 02:42 |
| BigMac | gave an error if I recall | 02:42 |
| soundray | lsmod | grep -q ^ndiswrapper && echo ndiswrapper is still loaded | 02:43 |
| BigMac | didn't echo anything to me | 02:43 |
| BigMac | and I don't see a modules folder in etc | 02:44 |
| soundray | It's a file, and I'd be surprised if you didn't have it at all... | 02:44 |
| BigMac | I can paste the output to pastebin, but nothing was output from that snipper | 02:45 |
| BigMac | snippet | 02:45 |
| soundray | How about cat /etc/modules ? | 02:45 |
| BigMac | http://rafb.net/p/O3ASlr23.html | 02:47 |
| soundray | Fine | 02:47 |
| BigMac | should I run the commands on that site you linked me to? | 02:47 |
| soundray | It looks to me like the firmware on that site should be the same as the firmware you've already prepared with fwcutter | 02:48 |
| BigMac | Ok so what should I be doing | 02:49 |
| soundray | Try again | 02:50 |
| soundray | but don't disable the connections like c0ld says | 02:50 |
| soundray | Set them to "Roaming mode" if you want to set it up through networkmanager | 02:51 |
| BigMac | I didn't get that far | 02:52 |
| BigMac | I just went through 1-3 | 02:52 |
| BigMac | clicked my network | 02:52 |
| BigMac | and it wouldn't connect | 02:52 |
| BigMac | SO I should disable everything? | 02:52 |
| soundray | No, read what I said | 02:53 |
| BigMac | ok | 02:53 |
| BigMac | sorry I don't know where to adjust those settings, I looked in network tools | 02:54 |
| soundray | One above, in Networking | 02:55 |
| BigMac | It says roaming mode enabled already | 02:56 |
| soundray | That's good then | 02:56 |
| BigMac | ok | 02:56 |
| BigMac | so what else should I be doing | 02:57 |
| soundray | Can you do a iwlist ap | 02:57 |
| BigMac | surr | 02:57 |
| BigMac | sure | 02:57 |
| soundray | What's your interface name? | 02:57 |
| BigMac | http://rafb.net/p/rUDts424.html | 02:58 |
| soundray | I see, you haven't got a wireless device yet | 02:58 |
| BigMac | My SSID? Otherwise I don't know what you mean | 02:58 |
| soundray | You have two wired Ethernet sockets? | 02:59 |
| BigMac | I am not sure what you mean | 02:59 |
| BigMac | Sorry I am usually not this computer illiterate | 03:00 |
| BigMac | I do have a built in wifi card, and I have one ethernet port on the back | 03:00 |
| soundray | Are you connected through the Ethernet right now? | 03:01 |
| BigMac | Yup | 03:01 |
| soundray | Is that eth0? | 03:01 |
| BigMac | yes | 03:01 |
| soundray | Have you got the bcm43xx module loaded? Check with | 03:03 |
| soundray | lsmod | grep ^bcm | 03:03 |
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| BigMac | http://rafb.net/p/KXovG972.html | 03:05 |
| soundray | The driver is loaded, then | 03:06 |
| BigMac | ? | 03:07 |
| BigMac | SHouldn't it be working then | 03:07 |
| soundray | BTW, I don't mind you pasting a few lines here. It's the main channel where pasting can be a major problem. | 03:07 |
| BigMac | Oh ok | 03:07 |
| soundray | I don't know, I'm trying the same thing here, and it doesn't work, either... | 03:07 |
| soundray | Driver loads, but no new interface appears | 03:08 |
| BigMac | hmm | 03:08 |
| BigMac | Perhaps I should try the actual driver in that guide, but the first 2 commands do nothing | 03:09 |
| soundray | The ones to remove ndiswrapper? | 03:10 |
| BigMac | yah | 03:11 |
| soundray | The rmmod command worked. You have no ndiswrapper module now. | 03:12 |
| BigMac | ok | 03:12 |
| BigMac | so should I try the guide all the way through then report back | 03:12 |
| soundray | To check whether ndiswrapper-utils is installed, do a | 03:12 |
| BigMac | or do you think it is not worth it | 03:12 |
| soundray | dpkg -l ndiswr* | 03:12 |
| soundray | Difficult question | 03:13 |
| BigMac | moyers@moyLAPTOP:~$ dpkg -l ndiswr* | 03:13 |
| BigMac | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | 03:13 |
| BigMac | | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed | 03:13 |
| BigMac | |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) | 03:13 |
| BigMac | ||/ Name Version Description | 03:13 |
| BigMac | +++-==============-==============-============================================ | 03:13 |
| BigMac | un ndiswrapper-mo <none> (no description available) | 03:13 |
| BigMac | It is just irritating knowing that wifi does work on my laptop, I like ubuntu way more then windows for coding, but yet I have never been able to get wireless working | 03:14 |
| soundray | You've successully removed that package | 03:16 |
| BigMac | ok | 03:16 |
| BigMac | so continue the guide? | 03:16 |
| soundray | I don't know | 03:17 |
| soundray | It would be nicer to get it to work without ndiswrapper | 03:18 |
| soundray | and without bypassing the package system as well | 03:18 |
| BigMac | Sure but I would rather have wifi with ndiswrapper than no wifi | 03:18 |
| BigMac | If I can't get it working without it | 03:18 |
| soundray | I can see that. | 03:19 |
| BigMac | But if you have more ideas, please go ahead, I am just saying if you are tapped on ideas then i can resort to this | 03:20 |
| soundray | But I have to let you try without me, I need a bit of sleep now | 03:20 |
| soundray | I've been searching the web up and down while we were chatting, but haven't found anything useful | 03:21 |
| BigMac | ok I guess I will try and really hope it works | 03:22 |
| BigMac | if not I find somebody else who can help | 03:22 |
| soundray | Good luck | 03:22 |
| soundray | BigMac: one more thing | 03:24 |
| soundray | lspci | grep Broadcom | 03:24 |
| soundray | What does that give you? | 03:25 |
| BigMac | moyers@moyLAPTOP:~$ lspci | grep Broadcom | 03:26 |
| BigMac | 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01) | 03:26 |
| BigMac | 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02) | 03:26 |
| soundray | Yes, it looks like those instructions apply | 03:29 |
| soundray | I just found that for my device (4328) there just isn't a driver at all yet. | 03:30 |
| soundray | Nevermind | 03:30 |
| soundray | See you later | 03:30 |
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| Fezzler | h | 05:01 |
| Fezzler | how come in some irc rooms there are long lists of people but no conversation. Are people IMing? | 05:01 |
| Fezzler | sorry for newbie q? | 05:02 |
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| eAi | hey | 06:52 |
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| soundray | eAi: let's start with grub | 06:53 |
| eAi | ok | 06:53 |
| soundray | To simplify things a little, there are two parts to it. | 06:53 |
| soundray | One is a tiny program that fits into the master boot record of a hard disk drive. | 06:53 |
| eAi | yep | 06:54 |
| eAi | stage1 right? | 06:54 |
| soundray | Yes | 06:54 |
| soundray | The MBR is outside of all partitions. In fact, I think it contains the partition table as well. | 06:54 |
| soundray | That part of grub needs to reference the next stage, 1.5. | 06:55 |
| eAi | ok | 06:55 |
| soundray | Or is it stage2, I get confused. | 06:55 |
| soundray | It doesn't matter. | 06:56 |
| soundray | What matters is that stage 1 needs a pointer to what comes next, so it can load it off the disk. | 06:56 |
| eAi | ok | 06:56 |
| soundray | That's what goes into the /grub subdirectory of your /boot partition. | 06:57 |
| soundray | Once that part is loaded, it goes on to load a kernel. At this point, grub is still dependent on BIOS information. | 06:58 |
| soundray | Which is why your first attempt with the USB failed. | 06:58 |
| eAi | ok | 06:58 |
| soundray | Now let's make a quick digression into partition tables. | 06:58 |
| soundray | You can have a maximum of four primary partitions on a disk, *or* up to three primaries plus an extended partition. | 06:59 |
| soundray | The extended partition can contain logical ones. | 06:59 |
| soundray | fdisk shows all partitions, including the extended one. Some other programs don't. Hence the discrepancy between three and four partitions that you see. | 07:00 |
| eAi | ok | 07:01 |
| soundray | Given that you have a new /dev/sda6, I presume you have one primary partition, one extended one and two logicals inside the extended. | 07:01 |
| eAi | Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System | 07:02 |
| eAi | /dev/sda1 * 1 5101 40973751 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) | 07:02 |
| eAi | /dev/sda2 5102 7296 17631337+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) | 07:02 |
| eAi | /dev/sda5 5102 7125 16257748+ 7 HPFS/NTFS | 07:02 |
| eAi | /dev/sda6 7126 7296 1373526 83 Linux | 07:02 |
| soundray | Yes, that's what I thought. sda5 and sda6 are the logical ones inside sda2 | 07:02 |
| eAi | ok | 07:03 |
| soundray | The next step is to copy the required data to your /dev/sda6 | 07:03 |
| soundray | How we do this depends on how you are currently set up. ? | 07:03 |
| soundray | Running Windows right now? | 07:03 |
| eAi | no, Ubuntu live cd | 07:04 |
| soundray | eAi: okay, that's where you ran gparted from, correct? | 07:04 |
| eAi | yes | 07:04 |
| soundray | BTW, what version of ubuntu? | 07:05 |
| eAi | 7.04 | 07:05 |
| soundray | Did you have to apt-get install gparted? | 07:05 |
| eAi | no | 07:05 |
| eAi | was in the System->Administration menu | 07:06 |
| soundray | It's included, that's what I thought. Someone claimed the opposite yesterday. | 07:06 |
| soundray | Nm | 07:06 |
| eAi | well, its fairly obvious, right there at the top | 07:06 |
| soundray | What do you get from a 'sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt'? I'm hoping for silence. | 07:06 |
| eAi | correct | 07:08 |
| eAi | nothing | 07:08 |
| soundray | Do a "sudo sh -c 'date >/mnt/datelabel' " to see if you can write to it | 07:09 |
| soundray | Should be silent, too. | 07:09 |
| eAi | silent | 07:10 |
| soundray | What's the partition name of your ubuntu installation, ie. external hard disk? | 07:10 |
| eAi | /dev/sdb2 | 07:11 |
| soundray | eAi: we need to mount that to another mount point. | 07:12 |
| soundray | sudo mkdir /media/sdb2 | 07:12 |
| soundray | mount /dev/sdb2 /media/sdb2 | 07:12 |
| soundray | should both be silent | 07:12 |
| soundray | sorry | 07:13 |
| soundray | sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/sdb2 | 07:13 |
| eAi | ok, done | 07:13 |
| soundray | Now we need to copy the whole /boot directory contents to the new partition. | 07:13 |
| soundray | sudo cp -a /boot/* /mnt/ | 07:14 |
| soundray | actually... | 07:14 |
| soundray | sudo cp -av /boot/* /mnt/ | 07:14 |
| soundray | That way you'll know what's going on | 07:14 |
| eAi | ok, done | 07:14 |
| soundray | Now the Ubuntu installation needs to know about the new location of the /boot data | 07:15 |
| eAi | ok | 07:16 |
| soundray | echo '/dev/sda6 /boot ext3 defaults 0 2' | sudo tee -a /media/sdb2/etc/fstab' | 07:16 |
| soundray | before you do that... | 07:17 |
| soundray | sudo cp /media/sdb2/etc/fstab /media/sdb2/etc/fstab-backup | 07:17 |
| soundray | just to be safe ;) | 07:17 |
| eAi | hm | 07:19 |
| eAi | that gives a > prompt | 07:19 |
| soundray | my fault | 07:19 |
| soundray | Ctrl-C that | 07:19 |
| soundray | then arrow-up and remove the quote mark from the end. | 07:19 |
| eAi | ah ok | 07:20 |
| eAi | yeah it just echoed out that part in quotes to the console | 07:21 |
| soundray | Do a cat /media/sdb2/etc/fstab and see if the new line is there | 07:21 |
| eAi | yeah it is | 07:22 |
| eAi | theres 5 uncommented lines | 07:22 |
| soundray | Good. Next step is to adapt the grub configuration to the new location. | 07:22 |
| eAi | ok | 07:23 |
| soundray | Could you paste the whole /mnt/grub/menu.lst to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | 07:23 |
| soundray | and give me the URL | 07:25 |
| eAi | sure | 07:25 |
| eAi | well, its empty | 07:25 |
| eAi | which makes that kind of redundant ;) | 07:26 |
| soundray | What about | 07:26 |
| soundray | ls /mnt/grub | 07:26 |
| soundray | is that empty, too? | 07:26 |
| eAi | device.map | 07:26 |
| soundray | Is that all? | 07:26 |
| eAi | yes | 07:26 |
| soundray | ls /media/sdb2/boot/ | 07:27 |
| soundray | anything there? | 07:27 |
| eAi | yep | 07:27 |
| eAi | abi-2.6.20-15-generic initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic.bak | 07:27 |
| eAi | config-2.6.20-15-generic memtest86+.bin | 07:27 |
| eAi | grub System.map-2.6.20-15-generic | 07:27 |
| eAi | initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic | 07:27 |
| soundray | eAi: the copying step hasn't worked then | 07:27 |
| soundray | No /mnt/datelabel, that's worrying | 07:28 |
| eAi | thats odd | 07:28 |
| eAi | i cd'd to mnt | 07:28 |
| eAi | and its all there | 07:28 |
| eAi | one sec | 07:28 |
| eAi | it just hasn't copied all the grub stuff | 07:29 |
| soundray | ls /mnt ? | 07:29 |
| eAi | abi-2.6.20-15-generic lost+found | 07:29 |
| eAi | config-2.6.20-15-generic memtest86+.bin | 07:29 |
| eAi | datelabel System.map-2.6.20-15-generic | 07:29 |
| eAi | grub vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic | 07:29 |
| eAi | initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic.bak | 07:29 |
| eAi | I did the copy again and it did the same | 07:30 |
| eAi | it just copied on grub/* file | 07:30 |
| soundray | Is there a /mnt/grub/menu.lst now? | 07:30 |
| eAi | no | 07:30 |
| eAi | sudo cp -av /boot/grub/* ./grub | 07:30 |
| eAi | copies one file | 07:30 |
| eAi | that copy is wrong | 07:31 |
| soundray | Yes, it's the wrong source | 07:31 |
| soundray | sorry | 07:31 |
| eAi | yes | 07:31 |
| eAi | :) | 07:31 |
| soundray | sudo cp /media/sdb2/boot/* /mnt/ | 07:31 |
| soundray | sudo cp -av /media/sdb2/boot/* /mnt/ | 07:31 |
| eAi | ok, better | 07:31 |
| soundray | Now let me see your /mnt/grub/menu.lst pls | 07:32 |
| eAi | one sec | 07:33 |
| eAi | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20519/ | 07:36 |
| soundray | I'll go through that, edit it in a few places and paste it back. Be patient pls ;) | 07:37 |
| eAi | of course :) | 07:37 |
| eAi | thanks btw, really helpful | 07:37 |
| soundray | eAi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20521/ | 07:42 |
| soundray | I hope these are right. Make a backup of the existing menu.lst for reference. | 07:42 |
| soundray | You'll see that I put (hd0,5), this is the grub name of your /dev/sda6 | 07:43 |
| eAi | yeah I saw | 07:44 |
| eAi | copied in | 07:44 |
| soundray | We should be ready to put grub in the MBR now. | 07:44 |
| soundray | sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda | 07:45 |
| soundray | Any errors? | 07:45 |
| soundray | oops | 07:46 |
| soundray | Have you done that already? | 07:47 |
| eAi | Installation finished. No error reported. | 07:47 |
| eAi | This is the contents of the device map /mnt/boot/grub/device.map. | 07:47 |
| eAi | Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect, | 07:47 |
| eAi | fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'. | 07:47 |
| eAi | (fd0) /dev/fd0 | 07:47 |
| eAi | (hd0) /dev/sda | 07:47 |
| eAi | (hd1) /dev/sdb | 07:47 |
| soundray | I see | 07:47 |
| eAi | that right? | 07:48 |
| soundray | The problem now is that grub created a boot directory inside /mnt, which itself is later going to be /boot | 07:48 |
| soundray | Not a problem, let's sideline that new directory | 07:49 |
| soundray | sudo mv /mnt/boot /mnt/boot-mistake | 07:49 |
| soundray | Then create a symbolic link in /mnt named boot, pointing to itself | 07:49 |
| soundray | cd /mnt ; sudo ln -sf . boot | 07:50 |
| soundray | Then redo the grub-install | 07:50 |
| eAi | done | 07:50 |
| soundray | sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda | 07:50 |
| eAi | Installation finished. No error reported. | 07:50 |
| eAi | This is the contents of the device map /mnt/boot/grub/device.map. | 07:50 |
| eAi | Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect, | 07:50 |
| eAi | fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'. | 07:50 |
| eAi | (hd0) /dev/sda | 07:50 |
| eAi | (hd1) /dev/sdb | 07:50 |
| soundray | Hmm, it's strange that it dropped the fd0 now | 07:51 |
| soundray | Not a problem, you're not booting from floppy. | 07:51 |
| eAi | don't even have a floppy drive | 07:51 |
| soundray | Let's think this through now | 07:52 |
| soundray | Grub will load from /dev/sda and load its config etc. from /dev/sda6 | 07:52 |
| soundray | Then it'll boot the kernel... | 07:52 |
| soundray | oops | 07:52 |
| eAi | remember I still want to be able to boot Windows sometimes ;) | 07:53 |
| soundray | That's not a problem, grub knows all about your Vista ;) | 07:53 |
| soundray | But we need to change the location of the kernel back to /boot/... now | 07:53 |
| soundray | which means I have to give you another menu.lst | 07:54 |
| soundray | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20522/ | 07:55 |
| soundray | This needs to go to /mnt/grub/menu.lst again | 07:55 |
| soundray | Okay, now the kernel knows where to find itself, so to speak, once grub loads it. | 07:56 |
| eAi | copied that in | 07:56 |
| soundray | I think it's done. Wanna try to reboot? | 07:56 |
| eAi | ok :) | 07:59 |
| eAi | if it doesn't work I'll have to reboot using the live cd and install xchat again | 07:59 |
| eAi | so I may be some time... | 07:59 |
| soundray | eAi: either that, or connect with gaim instead (should be on the CD already) | 07:59 |
| eAi | ok | 07:59 |
| eAi | I'll be back! | 08:00 |
| soundray | eAi: I'll stay logged in for another while | 08:00 |
| eAi | k | 08:00 |
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| eAi | it worked! | 08:08 |
| soundray | Excellent. | 08:08 |
| eAi | thanks a lot :) | 08:08 |
| soundray | Have you tried booting your horrible closed source OS, too? | 08:09 |
| eAi | haven't tested if windows still works | 08:09 |
| eAi | no | 08:09 |
| eAi | i've actually got Vista and XP installed, but I never use Vista | 08:09 |
| eAi | someone gave it to me free ;) | 08:09 |
| soundray | Well, I trust that it'll work. If not, you can always ask again on the main channel | 08:09 |
| eAi | ok | 08:10 |
| soundray | Are you sorted then? ;) | 08:10 |
| eAi | well a few other questions | 08:11 |
| soundray | I'm all eyes | 08:11 |
| eAi | like, is there a way to get double-tap (on the laptop's trackpad) to work for dragging? | 08:11 |
| eAi | its hardly major, but it'd be useful | 08:12 |
| soundray | eAi: probably. It worked out of the box for me, but you may have to configure the synaptics driver. | 08:12 |
| soundray | gsynaptics is a useful frontend. | 08:12 |
| eAi | ok | 08:13 |
| eAi | gparted isn't installed by default | 08:13 |
| eAi | it is on the live cd though | 08:13 |
| eAi | also, is it just me, or does the return/enter key not always work to click the default button | 08:14 |
| eAi | (the glowing one) | 08:14 |
| soundray | eAi: that's just you... | 08:14 |
| eAi | strange | 08:15 |
| eAi | it keeps happening | 08:15 |
| soundray | eAi: I'm not sure, I don't get this problem. | 08:15 |
| soundray | Do you mean dialog buttons, like OK/Cancel, or menus as well? | 08:15 |
| eAi | works fine selecting menu items | 08:15 |
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| eAi | but for example, if I select a package in the Synaptic Package Manager | 08:15 |
| eAi | and try to install it | 08:16 |
| eAi | I get the "Apple the following change" dialog | 08:16 |
| eAi | and pressing return won't do "Apply" | 08:16 |
| soundray | eAi: maybe it's not just you | 08:16 |
| soundray | I tend to use the keyboard for command line work, and the mouse for GUIs | 08:17 |
| eAi | well, I avoid the mouse as much as I can on my laptop | 08:17 |
| soundray | Try space if return doesn't do what you expect | 08:17 |
| eAi | when I don't have a mouse connected | 08:17 |
| eAi | space didn't work | 08:17 |
| eAi | tab -> enter worked | 08:17 |
| eAi | (selecting the checkbox) | 08:17 |
| eAi | which suggests that whatever is selected by default is not passing the keystroke correctly | 08:18 |
| eAi | anyway | 08:18 |
| eAi | i'll live ;) | 08:18 |
| eAi | wheres xorg.conf? | 08:18 |
| soundray | /etc/X11 | 08:19 |
| eAi | that gsynaptics app says I've got to set SHMConfig to true | 08:20 |
| eAi | but I'm not sure what section that should be in | 08:21 |
| eAi | and SHMConfig isn't currently in there | 08:21 |
| eAi | I don't have a Synaptics Touchpad item which one site thinks I maybe should | 08:23 |
| soundray | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=975421 | 08:24 |
| soundray | look at post #8 | 08:24 |
| eAi | do I have to restart X after I change it? | 08:25 |
| soundray | eAi: yes | 08:25 |
| eAi | control + alt + backspace? | 08:26 |
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| eAi | doesn't work :( | 08:28 |
| soundray | eAi: you have to reference that InputDevice where the current one is also referenced | 08:31 |
| soundray | in Section ServerLayout | 08:31 |
| eAi | add an InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad" | 08:32 |
| eAi | ? | 08:32 |
| soundray | Yes | 08:33 |
| eAi | ok, trying that | 08:33 |
| soundray | Make sure it exactly matches the Identifier. | 08:33 |
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| eAi | well that fixed it :) | 08:34 |
| eAi | tap and drag works :) | 08:34 |
| soundray | Hooray! | 08:34 |
| eAi | and the config works :) | 08:34 |
| eAi | config should really be part of ubuntu :) | 08:34 |
| eAi | judging by the number of posts there are about this kind of thing | 08:35 |
| soundray | Do you mean gsynaptics? | 08:35 |
| eAi | yes | 08:35 |
| eAi | and whatever is required to make it "just work" :) | 08:36 |
| eAi | well, thanks very much for helping me with this | 08:37 |
| soundray | Yw | 08:37 |
| eAi | now, all this stuff has made me forget to eat :( | 08:38 |
| eAi | heres a quick question - whats the best way to mount an SMB share? | 08:40 |
| soundray | eAi: that's not a quick question ;) | 08:45 |
| soundray | eAi: try "Places - Connect to server" | 08:46 |
| soundray | eAi: if you want a permanent mount, add it to /etc/fstab. I'll give you an example line from mine: | 08:46 |
| soundray | /fsg/media /var/lib/media cifs credentials=/root/.creds,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 1 | 08:47 |
| eAi | if that fails to mount, will it cause any problems? | 08:47 |
| eAi | (e.g. if the laptop is off the network) | 08:47 |
| soundray | eAi: yes | 08:48 |
| soundray | After gid=1000, you can add ',noauto' (no space) | 08:48 |
| soundray | Then you can mount the share when needed with | 08:48 |
| soundray | sudo mount /var/lib/media | 08:49 |
| eAi | hm ok | 08:49 |
| eAi | how can I enable ntfs write? | 08:49 |
| eAi | just install the ntfs-3g package? | 08:49 |
| eAi | or is it more complex? | 08:49 |
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| soundray | I don't know... | 08:50 |
| soundray | !ntfs-3g | 08:50 |
| ubotu | ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions | 08:50 |
| soundray | That may help | 08:51 |
| soundray | I don't have any ntfs partitions on my main machines :) | 08:51 |
| eAi | ok :) | 08:51 |
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| soundray | Actually, that's not true. I created one on my Mac with Boot Camp. But I'm not using it atm and I don't think I will | 08:53 |
| soundray | Where in the UK are you? | 08:53 |
| eAi | back | 09:01 |
| eAi | im in London | 09:01 |
| soundray | Not far then | 09:01 |
| soundray | I'm in Ascot | 09:01 |
| eAi | I go to uni at Royal Holloway very near there | 09:01 |
| soundray | In Egham, yeah | 09:02 |
| eAi | yep | 09:02 |
| soundray | I have friends there | 09:02 |
| soundray | What do you study? | 09:02 |
| eAi | Computer Science | 09:02 |
| eAi | ;) | 09:02 |
| soundray | My friends are two geologists and an ethno-musicologist :) | 09:03 |
| eAi | i've met a few geologists, no ethno-musicologists though | 09:04 |
| soundray | I went to the open day a few weeks ago with the kids | 09:04 |
| eAi | the UCAS ones? | 09:05 |
| soundray | erm | 09:05 |
| soundray | Don't know what UCAS is | 09:05 |
| eAi | university entry system | 09:05 |
| soundray | No, it was a thing for the public | 09:05 |
| eAi | ah | 09:06 |
| soundray | I work with computer scientists a lot. Are you into image processing at all? | 09:07 |
| eAi | well I used to play around with that kind of thing ages ago, but I can't say I've done much recently | 09:07 |
| eAi | I spend most of my time working on Multi Theft Auto a grand theft auto mod | 09:08 |
| eAi | thats C++ and Assembly | 09:08 |
| eAi | assembly is really what I enjoy | 09:08 |
| eAi | bit sad ; | 09:08 |
| eAi | ) | 09:08 |
| soundray | :D | 09:08 |
| eAi | but I do all sorts of stuff really, the mod I do because its a good challenge | 09:10 |
| soundray | Are you undergraduate still? | 09:10 |
| eAi | yes, second year | 09:10 |
| eAi | but strangely I still find I haven't really learnt much I didn't know before I started it ;) | 09:10 |
| eAi | probably because I wasted most of my school life in front of a computer | 09:11 |
| soundray | Well, I can tell you your type is in demand in my arena | 09:11 |
| eAi | whats that exactly? | 09:12 |
| soundray | Extracting information from e.g. 3D brain images acquired with MRI that isn't readily visible on 2D sections | 09:13 |
| eAi | data visualisation kind of? | 09:14 |
| soundray | Yes, that comes into it | 09:14 |
| eAi | or more focused on getting the information than displaying it? | 09:14 |
| soundray | But also data mining, feature extraction, statistical functional mapping, all of that | 09:15 |
| eAi | sounds interesting | 09:15 |
| eAi | I imagine theres lots of demand for that for all sorts of things | 09:16 |
| soundray | If you're interested in a summer project or similar in that vein at any stage, drop me an email | 09:16 |
| eAi | like satellite images etc? | 09:16 |
| soundray | It's my nickname at imperial dot aycee dot ukay ;) | 09:17 |
| eAi | sure, I might well be, got nothing to do this summer anyway | 09:17 |
| eAi | worked in an office last year, got paid well, but bored out of my mind | 09:17 |
| eAi | worked in "The gherkin" | 09:17 |
| soundray | eAi: yes, or even just to continue this discussion... I should log off now. | 09:17 |
| eAi | ok, sure | 09:17 |
| soundray | Enjoy your ubuntu ;) | 09:18 |
| eAi | thank you | 09:18 |
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| eAi | I will :) | 09:18 |
| soundray | Bye now | 09:18 |
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