Adri2000afflux: I'm going to upload your briquolo merge, to but it would be cool to forward the changes to debian so that next time we can sync12:18
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bluekujait seems that cddb files like libcddb etc cannot be used on a pbuilder12:29
bluekujathey're available in packages.ubuntu.com under gutsy devel12:30
FujitsuWhat do you mean by `cannot be used'?12:30
gesermy guess is: universe not enabled12:30
FujitsuThat was mine too.12:30
bluekujalet me see my pbuilder12:31
bluekujaconf file12:31
bluekujacannot be used means12:31
bluekujaapt-get install libcddb2-dev12:31
bluekujaReading package lists... Done12:31
bluekujaBuilding dependency tree       12:31
bluekujaReading state information... Done12:31
bluekujaE: Couldn't find package libcddb2-dev12:31
bluekujalooking conf file12:31
bluekujaCOMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse"12:33
bluekujasomeone can try it on his pbuilder?12:33
bluekuja(gutsy pbuilder)12:33
DktrKranzbluekuja, try to login and see if universe is enabled12:33
bluekujaalready done ...12:34
bluekujait works for you?12:34
DktrKranzI'm gonna check12:34
bluekujaI'm able to get other universe files...12:34
DktrKranzwhich package were you about?12:35
bluekujaand others12:35
bluekujacddb related files12:35
DktrKranzE: Couldn't find package libcddb12:37
bluekujatry it12:37
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DktrKranzno problems here12:38
DktrKranzlibcddb2 |    1.2.1-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages12:38
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Davieyimbrandon, you about?01:02
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leonelScottK: ping01:16
TheMusoHey MOTUs and MOTU hopefuls.01:23
angasulewhat about us useless lurkers? :?01:24
persiaHello TheMuso01:24
TheMusoheh everybody.01:25
angasulehey :)01:25
TheMusoI believe all people in here who lirk are MOTU  hopefuls.01:25
TheMusoOr MOTUs.01:25
TheMusoSo everybody who is not a MOTU, is a MOTU hopeful in my eyes.01:25
TheMusoWho is in here.01:25
persiaTheMuso: You forget MOTU-stalkers, IRC bots, etc. :)01:25
leoneland me01:25
angasuleI'm an Evil Overlord01:26
TheMusoHeya pochu.01:26
pochuhi TheMuso 01:26
pochuScottK: I can't understand your second message to the list. What do you want to correct? :)01:26
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Adri2000-to your sources.list(5).  Then, update and upgrade (or install) azureus.01:40
Adri2000+to your sources.list(5).  Then, update and upgrade (or install) lighttpd.01:40
Adri2000pochu: ^ :)01:40
pochuAdri2000: :)01:46
pochuAdri2000: have you really done a diff to the mails? ;)01:47
Adri2000no, just eye-diff :)01:50
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superm1hey anyone up for a revu right now?01:53
TheMusosuperm1: If nobody else has done it before I return, I'll have a look when I'm back at the computer.01:56
superm1thanks TheMuso 01:56
TheMusosuperm1: Just give me the revu link, so I can look if you're not around later.01:56
superm1http://revu.tauware.de./details.py?upid=5108 mythtv-themes-unofficial is the package01:57
TheMusosuperm1: Thanks.01:58
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ScottKpochu: There was a typo in the first.  It said to install the wrong packagename, it's fixed in the text on the 2nd.02:19
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pochuScottK: didn't see it :)02:28
pochugood night MOTUland!02:28
leonelScottK: about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squirrelmail/+bug/113725     I need to apply the patch directly  since   crimsun told me that there's no a patch management for squirrelmail  so I don't know how to patch it  02:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 113725 in squirrelmail "Cross site scripting in HTML filter" [High,Confirmed]  02:29
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leonelScottK: patched in the source already ..02:32
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crimsunleonel: about what are you unclear?02:44
leonelI've patched the sourece  ..02:44
leoneland  now ??02:44
leonelthe debdiff  against what ?02:44
leonelthis is what ive done 02:45
crimsunleonel: the previous source package that's currently in feisty.02:45
leonelapt-get source squirrelmail02:45
leonelpatched the source 02:45
leoneland  now ?02:45
crimsunedit debian/changelog02:45
crimsundebuild -S -uc -us02:45
leonelnow  I see the new  dsc02:46
crimsuncd ..02:46
crimsundebdiff old.dsc new.dsc >new.debdiff02:47
crimsunreplace old.dsc and new.dsc as appropriate02:47
crimsunthen attach new.debdiff to the bug02:47
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crimsunour friendly MOTUs must be inebriated beyond the point of sense, now.02:47
leonelwhy ?? friday ?02:48
crimsunyesterday was the last day of UDS02:48
crimsunthe big dinner, aka "drink & eat yourself silly", took place02:49
leonelmust been  there .. 02:49
crimsunhave you attached the new.debdiff yet?02:49
leonelnot do a pbuilder ?02:51
leonelcrimsun: ?02:51
crimsunwell, I assume you've tested this new patch02:51
leonellet's do that first :-P02:51
crimsunpbuilder-feisty build foo.dsc02:52
freeflyingcrimsun: hi03:02
crimsunfreeflying: uploaded.03:06
leonelcrimsun: the deb installed  03:07
leoneluploading the  debdiff03:07
freeflyingcrimsun: thanks03:07
leonelcrimsun: this as a descripton :     patch applied without dpatch   ??03:09
crimsunleonel: you don't need to say that in the description.03:09
leoneljust upload the debdiff ?03:09
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crimsunleonel: yes03:10
leonelcrimsun: uploaded 03:13
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crimsunleonel: ok, tweaked.03:23
leonelwhat I did wrong ?03:26
leonelcrimsun:  ?03:26
crimsunleonel: you didn't do anything  /wrong/  ; I just clarified.  It's in the bug report.03:26
crimsunleonel: it's now up to the security team.03:27
crimsunleonel: thanks for your work on it!03:27
leonelnow  on to dapper ..03:27
leonelcrimsun:  I assume apply the patches for dapper  the same ?03:27
crimsunif you're extremely lucky, they'll backport cleanly.03:28
leonelwhat this  patch ?03:28
leonelthe problem is that  Dapper has other security  issues 03:28
leonelsince dapper has  1.4.603:30
leoneland this patch was for  1.4.903:30
leonelis there any chance  that  this get to dapper backports  ?03:30
crimsunerr, no, this is a security erratum, not a backport wishlist.03:31
crimsunit belongs in dapper-security (just like feisty-security).03:32
leonelso it's  ok  to work on dapper's squirrelmail  security bugs  ?03:32
minghuaAlso, I don't think everybody has dapper-backports enabled.  I don't.03:34
crimsunleonel: absolutely.03:34
crimsunleonel: Dapper is an LTS.03:35
leonelok 03:37
leonelthe procedure would be 03:37
leonelreport or check for bugs  in launchpad03:37
leoneland  do all the patching as we did with feisty ?03:37
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crimsunleonel: yep03:43
leonelcrimsun: ok  thank you very much   03:52
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persiaOops!  One should never run debuild inside cdbs-edit-patch.04:30
jmgpersia: :)04:31
plugwashpersia why? what happens?04:34
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persiaplugwash: It just spits an error, preventing you from making a big mistake :)04:35
nixternalbug 114156 - available for a merge if anyone is around to do so. thanks!04:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 114156 in tellico "[Gutsy Merge]  tellico_1.2.11-1ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11415604:44
TheMusonixternal: If nobody takes it before I get this mass compile set up, I'll have a look after this is done.04:45
nixternalrock on, thanks!04:46
crimsunI'll do it.04:46
crimsunoucheroo.  Debdiff against  /current/  source package?04:48
crimsunthat debdiff is gigantenormous.04:49
nixternalthat is what I get for *1.dsc04:50
nixternallet me fix that04:50
crimsunnixternal: the reason we ask for debdiffs against the current Debian source package is:  dpkg-source: cannot represent change to po/foobarblah.gmo: binary file contents changed04:50
nixternalLOL, I know04:50
nixternalI did a * and it grabbed the wrong (ubuntu revision) one04:51
nixternalcrimsun: fixed, sorry about that04:52
crimsunsilly rich forgetting DebianMaintainerField.04:54
nixternalsee, last time I switched it to MOTU I was told I wasn't supposed to04:55
nixternaloh wait, we are talking about 2 different things04:55
crimsunthis is gutsy; you're definitely supposed to.04:55
nixternalI am thinking about changing the orig maintainer04:55
crimsunmaybe it wasn't such a good idea to upload this merge over a 56kbps dialup04:59
persiacrimsun: :)04:59
minghuaubuntu-science list is just having too much spam05:00
nixternalcrimsun: did you fix that or do you want me to fix it really quick? sorry, there was a plane crash05:00
crimsunI've fixed it.05:00
crimsun(and updated debian/changelog to boot)05:01
nixternalactually, he didn't crash, he landed in our damn roadway05:01
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ranfbug #11415905:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 114159 in python-numpy "Merge python-numpy 1.0.2-2 from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11415905:17
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TheMusoAfternoon RAOF 06:20
RAOFGood afternoon TheMuso06:20
RAOFOoh, feisty-backports06:21
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chillywillykudos to the Ubuntu team, I just tried some other friggin desktop distro and it pales in comparison...that is all...07:38
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imbrandonDavie, I am now, kinda08:07
nixternalstop lying!08:07
nixternalwho is your fathah, and what does he do08:08
superm1imbrandon, that was like 8 hours ago?08:08
imbrandonsomething like that08:08
nixternalhey, better late than never08:08
superm1good point08:08
nixternalis Davie even around anymore?08:08
superm1imbrandon, he was wondering about email on mythbuntu.org08:09
imbrandonyou know since ubuntu studio release i've bveen pushiong 60MB/s out heheh08:09
imbrandonsuperm1: sure, what emails you want setup and to point to where08:09
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nixternalmt. dew doesn't get you tipsy silly08:10
nixternalit is the whacky tobacky that gotcha prolly08:11
imbrandonheh redbull and vodka does08:11
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TheMusoHeya imbrandon.08:11
nixternalmidwest in da house!08:11
imbrandonheya TheMuso !08:11
nixternalMO, IL, and WI covering MOTUland08:11
superm1well lets see, we wanted mirrors@mythbuntu.org and packages@mythbuntu.org at least08:11
imbrandonhows it going08:11
superm1and MN up here :)08:12
TheMusoimbrandon: Well thanks.08:12
nixternalwoowoo, and the MN08:12
TheMusosuperm1: Oh what was the name of the package you wanted reviewed?08:12
nixternalsharms: wake up and represent the MI already08:12
imbrandonsuperm1: honestly better to email me about them at this pooint and then i'll set some way up later tonight for you toadmin them08:12
superm1nixternal, mythtv-themes-unofficial08:12
nixternaloh wait, the MI probably crashed with your enhance bash your head script08:12
superm1k imbrandon 08:12
superm1woops, TheMuso ^08:12
superm1not nixterna l 08:13
nixternalI was gonna say, you lost me with that one ;)08:13
TheMusosuperm1: Thanks.08:13
TheMusoyoooooooooooouchy!! Big orig.08:14
superm190 megs i think08:14
TheMusoWhat the hell you got in here?08:14
nixternal2 other distros08:14
TheMusoYou sure about that08:15
superm1it was 100, but i had to pull one out that i couldnt straighten the licensing on08:15
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TheMusosuperm1: Ok, its now downloaded.08:27
superm1TheMuso, the way that i packaged it - since there are so many upstream tgz's - is that the correct way?08:28
superm1to put them all in one big archive?08:28
TheMusosuperm1: Hang on a sec.08:29
TheMusosuperm1: Is there a reason why you used o instead of * for mentioning the themes in debian/control?08:31
superm1not particularly?08:32
imbrandondum deee doo08:33
TheMusoIts just that * is used mostly, but I guess it doesn't matter.08:33
TheMusoI am not sure about debian/copyright. I am no expert in that area. I'm fine with it, but I am not sure if it will pass...08:33
superm1because of the organization of it?08:34
superm1or what are you thinking with it?08:34
persiasuperm1: For so many upstream archives, consider adding a get-orig-source: rule to debian/rules, just so the super-paranoid can verify that you didn't repack something evil.08:35
superm1persia, is get-orig-source typically used then to build the .orig.tar.gz?08:35
superm1based on the links that I provide for it08:36
TheMusosuperm1: There are no binaries shipped in this package, so there is no need for dh_strip.08:36
persiasuperm1: Not yet.  It's proposed to become the typical way in the future (in Debian).08:36
superm1but for the purposes of this package then, it would be used to build and compare to the orig.tar.gz that I uploaded correct?08:37
persiasuperm1: That's the idea.  It would only be run manually.  If you're sneaky, you can have it check the watch file for sources, and that way when you update the watch file, you can use it to prepare the next upstream version.08:38
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superm1when i make these changes, is there any way i can avoid having to reupload the whole .orig.tar.gz to revu, and maybe just upload a debdiff? Or will it only accept a full source package?08:43
TheMusosuperm1: Depends on what is changed.08:44
TheMusoAnd how you build the updated package.08:44
TheMusoIf you don't change anything in the orig.tar.gz, you can simply do debuild -S, which will only update the diff.08:44
superm1ah okay08:45
TheMusoThen when you upload, the orig won't be uploaded.08:45
superm1that'd be the way to go then08:45
superm1i wont change the orig.tar.gz at all08:45
superm1no real need to08:45
persiasuperm1: If you can make all your changes, and your new orig.tar.gz has all the same contents, you can fake it by hand-editing the .dsc file and re^running debsign.08:45
TheMusoWell then thats easy08:45
TheMusopersia: No need, if you use debuild right.08:45
TheMusoThat is if the md5sum doesn't change.08:46
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persiaTheMuso: Ah.  For my packages, get-orig-source testing tends to mess that up.08:46
superm1TheMuso, but what were you thinking about debian/copyright that is in need of possible work?08:50
TheMusosuperm1: Thats the thing. I don't know, as I am no expert, but I get the feeling that something needs changing. Exactly what though, I couldn't tell you.08:51
superm1okay :)08:51
superm1MOTU intuition08:51
persiasuperm1: I think you have to indicate to whom the upstream copyrights belong, and declare copyright for the packaging modifications.08:53
superm1ah okay08:54
superm1that would make sense08:54
persiasuperm1: Install debian-policy - all the rules are in there, and you can grep.08:54
superm1will do08:55
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persiaStevenK: were you hiding?09:06
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StevenKpersia: I've been out for most of the day.09:06
persiaStevenK: Welcome back.09:06
StevenKIn fact, I'm still out.09:06
jussi01hello motu's!!09:10
jussi01is there a reason there is no source here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/waon09:11
persiajussi01: waon has never yet been released in Ubuntu.  If the page responds, you can expect it soon.09:12
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crimsunjussi01: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=waon09:12
crimsunjussi01: it's awaiting source NEW09:13
jussi01ahhh... ok... so you guys upload it then it goes to new?09:13
jussi01great :D thanks crimsun09:14
crimsunsource NEW, build, binary NEW.09:14
jussi01ok... so how long does the process usually take?09:19
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crimsundepends on the archive admins.09:20
crimsunseeing how they've all been at UDS, it's no surprise.09:20
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rollerskatejammsWhat would be the best language to learn if I want to start contributing to packaging, fixing bugs, etc? C?09:22
bmmrollerskatejamms: first find the package, then learn that language.09:23
rollerskatejammsbmm, true :-D09:23
bmmFixing bugs is not really allot of fun (not all the time) so you should find a piece of software you are willing to make the effort for ;-)09:23
bmmWhat language would you like to learn?09:24
bmm(C#, Python, C++, Lisp, Erlang, Fortran, Io, Perl, Javascript..)09:24
bmmJava... and the list should go on even further ;-)09:24
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bmmYeah! My lintian and Linda are 0 bytes :-D http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=511309:26
persiarollerskatejamms: I have the opposite view: sometimes it's nice to learn a language by looking at bugs.  C, C++, and python seem to cover the majority of packages.09:27
bmmIf someone out there would have the time to take a look at it, It' be thrilled09:27
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rollerskatejammsbmm, I thought C# was a proprietary MS language.09:28
bmmrollerskatejamms: there are mono based packages out there, written in C# which you could help with if you would want that.09:29
bmmsee www.mono-project.com for more info.09:29
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rollerskatejammsCool. I'll have to think about which packages interest me most. I guess I'll take a look at the ones I use most frequently. (XChat, Gaim/Pidgin, Evolution, amongst others)09:30
bmmBut if you would have to choose a language, go with C++ if you are going to buy a book, C if you just have some hours left and Python if you want to start a project yourself.09:31
bmmrollerskatejamms: With C# you can take a look at programs like F-Spot, Banshee... there is probably a list somewhere ;-)09:32
persiabmm: delete config.{sub,guess} in clean: and copy them in configure:  This will make the diff smaller.09:32
rollerskatejammsAh yeah I use Banshee a lot.09:33
rollerskatejammsI don't really love F-Spot though. I use it because its there.09:33
rollerskatejammsI like Picassa a lot more, but it's not open source so I don't use it.09:33
superm1persia, are you still here?  Would you be able to look over what I made into debian/copyright for mythtv-themes-unofficial to see if it looks kosher?09:33
bmmpersia: copy them from the default location you mean?09:33
persiasuperm1: Sure, but I'M not an authority.09:34
superm1of course :) its at the bottom of this diff: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/mythtv-themes-unofficial-0705120325/mythtv-themes-unofficial_0.20070418-0ubuntu1.diff09:34
persiabmm: Yes (you need to Build-depend on autotools-dev for this to work).09:35
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persiasuperm1: Nothing left sticks out for me, but you'll want someone who knows better than I for confirmation.09:37
superm1K. thanks persia 09:37
superm1TheMuso, i made that change to debian/rules and debian/copyright, would be able to reack the new revu?09:38
bmmpersia: autotools dev is there already. My dh_make template rules contains a line to copy the config is already. Should I move the "cp -f ..." from clean: to config-status in rules?09:39
bmm(and add the delete in the clean)09:39
persiabmm: Exactly (or at least I prefer packages that do this).09:39
bmmpersia: if you are going to advocate it in the end, that's NP :-D09:40
persiabmm: I'm not MOTU :)09:40
bmmbmm: you don't need to be to advocate them, right? Just to mentor them.09:41
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bmmpersia: well, dh_make placed it there, so should I just leave it for now? I can make a comment about it on the revu page.09:42
persiabmm: You can certainly leave it there.  dh_make and I disagree about this, but it's not policy or anything.09:42
bmmpersia: ok, then I'm going to leave it there so I don't have to do another upload to revu. It would be so cool if the package could get through without an update ;-)09:43
bmmI'll post a comment about it....09:43
bmmWell.. now it's just sitting here and waiting for somebody to notice my package, right?09:49
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persiaDoes anyone know if popcon data is available in such a way that I could discover the number of reported users of a package on each architecture?09:51
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bmmHow do you know wether dh_installdirs is needed or not?09:58
persiabmm: Do you have a <package>.dirs file?09:58
bmmpersia: you mean debian/dirs, yes I've got that.09:59
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persiabmm: If you have that, then you need it.  Otherwise, not.09:59
bmmBut dh_make made it and it contains /usr/bin and /usr/sbin :-S10:00
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persiabmm: I disagree with dh_make about a number of things, so I may not be the best responder, but I only use the dirs file for directories that are not created during upstream installation into which I need to put files (typically with debian/install).  You may not need it.10:02
bmmpersia: yeah, think so. I'm not using the /usr/sbin at all, so that should just be removed.. I'll look it up in the new-maintainers guide and start purging it ;-)10:04
bmmok, deleted that file :-D10:05
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bmmpersia: Well, I cleaned up my installdirs and the unneeded commented dh_make things. The new upload should be there in a few minutes. (there being: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5113 ) Thanks for all the help!10:19
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persiabmm: No problem.  I'm currently failing to determine why something works fine on i386 and fails on amd64, and appreciate the distraction.10:20
bmmpersia: anything online? I don't have a amd64, but I could look at the code. It's probably some pointer arithmatic ;-)10:21
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bmm(or people trying to serialize using structs)10:21
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fluxyHey uni masters, know a good msn (not multi protocol) client for ubuntu? (needs nudge, file transfer, display message, smileys and disp pic), also i prefer gtk. thx10:22
persiabmm: I don't have it online, but I could upload it somewhere, if you really want to help debug it.  It's a C++ JACK client that uses wxgtk for everything.10:23
bmmpersia: if you upload it somewhere, I can take a look at it for you, don't expect any quick results though ;-)10:24
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bmmfluxy: I'm not a master, but you can try amsn10:27
fluxybmm: amsn is too buggy (am currently using it)10:28
bmmI think you can only go MORE experimental if you start of with amsn :)10:28
bmmfluxy: you could also try to find an online client with all that support. webmessanger probably has most of those features.10:30
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persiabmm: bug #11418110:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 114181 in freqtweak "Please upgrade freqtweak" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11418110:33
persiabmm: You might also consider removing yylex.cc in clean:.   you don't need dh_installdirs.  If you are upstream, consider not using "doc/debiandocs/" as part of the upstream directory structure.10:38
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stgraberDoes any MOTU have a minute to look at : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5117 please10:53
stgraberhey Sindwiller 10:53
stgraberpersia: ^ ?10:53
superm1stgraber, persia's not a MOTU :)10:54
persiastgraber: I'm not MOTU, but I'll look.10:54
stgraberhehe, sorry :) but nevermind as soon as someone may find some details I didn't fix :)10:54
Sindwillerhey stgraber :)10:54
TheMusosuperm1: Yep, will have another look.10:57
superm1thx TheMuso 10:57
stgraberTheMuso,gpocentek: I've uploaded a fixed version of miniracer, can you have a look when you've a minute.10:58
bmmpersia: thanks! I've added the rm -f src/SourceScanner/yylex.cc to my clean: rules. I'll do another dput in a few minutes :-D11:01
TheMusostgraber: Reviewing.11:07
bmmpersia: Well, the new update is in http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5118 REVU is fast btw.11:09
bmmpersia: have you put your code online already?11:09
persiastgraber: I don't see much still wrong.  I like icons & menu files, but that's just sugar.  You might consider using dh_desktop to binary-arch:.  You might also consider using install -m 755 instead of cp to place miniracer-bin.11:09
TheMusopersia: One would think that dh_fixperms fixes that up. I'll check once the package has finished building.11:09
TheMusoBut yes I agree, setting permissions once its copied over, i.e using the install command is a better idea.11:10
persiabmm - I made a special bug for you: it's number 114181.  debian/ is there, and everything else is automated.11:10
bmmpersia: hahah, when you types bug #114181, my IRC directed me to bugzilla which also has a bug under that number. Thought you might just have spoke to rhe wrong person11:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 114181 in freqtweak "Please upgrade freqtweak" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11418111:11
persiaTheMuso: Yes, dh_fixperms fixes it. I just like install.11:12
TheMusopersia: Yeah, its certainly more complete that way.11:12
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bmmpersia: Shouldn't the .orig.tar contain a directory with the package name? If so you might want to "mv freqtweak `dirname ${PWD}`' or something like that in getorigsource:.11:18
persiabmm: All previous upstream tarballs were flat.  That's a good idea though - that way I can have a rule that preps the build environment :)11:20
stgraberpersia: the problem I had with using dh_install is that I should have renamed "miniracer-bin" to "miniracer" before using it and doing so, debuild remove "miniracer" from the debian/ directory ...11:22
stgraberpersia: It'd have been good if I was able to use dh_install to copy+rename the miniracer-bin file to usr/games/miniracer11:23
superm1thx TheMuso .  i'm off to bed now :)11:23
TheMusosuperm1: No problem.11:23
persiastgraber: My apologies for the confusion.  not dh_install, but rather use `install -m 755 ...` instead of `cp ...` in debian/rules.11:23
stgraberok, will look at it11:23
TheMusostgraber: I've added another comment to revu.11:24
stgraberTheMuso: ok, for this description-starts-with-package-name is it that important ? All the game packages I've checked start with the game name in the description ...11:27
TheMusoProbably not.11:27
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TheMusostgraber: No need to worry about it I guess.11:28
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dothebarthm, i've been subscribed to REVU for a week now, and asked for adding my key...11:29
TheMusodothebart: Whats the problem?11:29
dothebartbut nobody answers my mail... 11:29
dothebartor tells me my key is added...11:29
bmmdothebart: there is something going wrong then. I've never asked for anything and got it without a problem :-D11:29
TheMusodothebart: Have you tried to upload a package?11:30
dothebartno, not yet.11:30
dothebartas the wiki states to ask the maintainers...11:30
dothebartshould that work without interaction?11:30
TheMusoI am not sure about how often the keyring is synced.11:30
TheMusoSo I can't answer for certain.11:30
TheMusoAnd unfortunately, as far as I am aware, there are no revu admins around at the moment.11:31
dothebartis there a cheap way to find out if?11:31
TheMusoTry uploading a package.11:31
TheMusoThe package should hopefully appear on revu in a few minutes.11:33
TheMusoWhats the name of the package?11:33
TheMusoAnd make sure you are only uploading the source.11:33
bmmonly do dput revu *_source.changes11:34
bmmTheMuso: if you have some spare time, check ccbuild: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=511811:35
TheMusobmm: Sure, in a sec.11:35
bmmNP, I was expecting this to take about months or so ;)11:36
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stgraberTheMuso: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=511911:42
TheMusostgraber: Will look again when I have finished reviewing bmm's package.11:42
bmmpersia: have you checked al the warnings for freqtweak?11:45
bmmpersia: the awnser might be in "CLFAGS=-Wall make 2>warnings.txt; grep -v wx < warninglog.txt |less"11:46
persiabmm: I've been looking through them, and fixed a couple, but my last patch for wxwidgets2.6 is still pending, so I don't really want to push another yet (to many things depend on wxwidgets).11:47
bmmand the problem is in the wxwidgets warnings?11:47
TheMusobmm: Left a comment.11:47
bmmwxwidgets should work on amd64 right?11:47
bmmTheMuso: ooh, where?11:48
TheMusoOn revu.11:48
bmmoh, I though I left a comment in my debian/rules :-D11:48
persiabmm: No, just that most of the warnings are wxwidgets.  And *should* is a good word there.  It does (98%), but there's still bugs.11:48
bmmpersia: that's why I used grep -v wx < warnings.txt ;-)11:49
persiabmm: heh11:49
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TheMusostgraber: Good. Acked it.11:53
stgraberTheMuso: great11:53
stgraberTheMuso: thank you11:53
TheMusostgraber: You're welcome.11:54
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persiabmm: I'm not sure about the type-punning, don't understand why a non-virtual destructor is bad, and will force-initialise the various mod values, which may help, but it crashes for me before I add a modulator, so I wonder if it might be one of the things I'm ignoring.11:55
bmmpersia: I currently have such a long comment on my "lintian free" package, that I'll have to get back to you on that ;)11:56
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persiabmm: No worries.  Thanks for the help.11:57
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jtbatesHi, I'm interested in getting started packaging.  I'm going through the Packaging Guide and I've hit a bump with setting up the chroot environment.12:00
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jtbatesWhen I do dpkg-reconfigure passwd in the chroot environment I get a bunch of errors about stuff not being in /etc/gshadow12:01
jtbatesFor example: 'cupsys' is a member of the 'lp' group in /etc/group but not in /etc/gshadow12:01
jtbatesAny idea why this is happening?12:02
jtbatesI followed the directions in the guide exactly12:02
stgraberTheMuso: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5120 if you still have a minute (it's a new upstream version for an already uploaded package)12:03
TheMusostgraber: Sure.12:03
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TheMusojtbates: If you are going to set up sudo, you don't really need to reconfigure passwd.12:05
TheMusoThats the experience I've had when setting up chroots.12:06
TheMusoJuast as long as you set your own password with the passwd command, sudo is installed, and sudoers is copied over to the chroot.12:06
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TheMusoHeya Hobbsee.12:11
TheMusoHow was the dinner?12:11
jtbatesOk, I just followed the rest of the instructions skipping that step and it seems to be working.  Thanks TheMuso.12:11
TheMusojtbates: You're welcome.12:11
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stgraberTheMuso: I've just read your comment, thanks12:12
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Hobbseeheya TheMuso!12:13
Hobbseewas great :D12:13
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TheMusoSo what are your plans until you fly out? :)12:14
stgraberhi Hobbsee 12:14
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Hobbseehiya stgraber 12:14
HobbseeTheMuso: not sure.  may explore the city a bit more12:15
TheMusoGot anybody to go around with, Melissa perhaps?12:15
Hobbseedont think she wants to come12:15
Hobbseebut yeah12:15
Adri2000does anyone remember the name of the ubuntuwire powerpc buildd?12:16
geserimbrandon: shouldn't aurora have a fast connection to mirror.imbrandon.com?12:17
Hobbseegeser: probably should, yes12:17
geserAdri2000: intrepid12:17
geser14% [1 cmake 1738760/4920kB 35%]                                 11.4kB/s 14m53s12:17
geseron aurora12:17
Adri2000geser: thanks12:17
stgrabergeser: well, that's 2xphone line, what are you complaining about ? :)12:18
geserAdri2000: but it still points to aurora, last I heard intrepid had hardware problems12:18
Adri2000hmm ok, will use sparky then (I need an arch different of i386/amd64)12:19
imbrandongeser: yes but its on the same 100MB/s switch BUT ....12:20
imbrandonright now the webserver ( e.g. mirror.* ) is dugg because of the Ubuntu Studio release12:20
imbrandonsooo its a bit slow12:20
geserok, will be patient then12:20
imbrandonit falling back though12:21
imbrandonpeeked at 89MB/s out12:21
imbrandonits about ~25 now12:21
imbrandonsoo the digg effect is slowly going away12:21
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jussi01heh, seems as your server is the only current working one right now imbrandon12:22
imbrandonreally ?12:22
imbrandonthats nuts12:23
jussi01crazy huh12:23
Hobbseetelephonica is broken.12:23
TheMusoThere are many people on the torrent also12:23
jussi01the others ave been up and down...12:23
imbrandonheya Hobbsee 12:23
Hobbseehi imbrandon!12:23
imbrandonmake it back to .au ?12:23
Hobbseehavent started12:23
imbrandonjussi01: heheh /me hugs his webserver12:24
imbrandonit can take the digg effect12:24
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stgraberAny MOTU can have a have a look at : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5119 ? It needs a second +112:25
jussi01lol, well its good we have at least 1 server still up :D12:26
bmmDo I need to mention NMU in my changelog (Non-maintainer upload)?12:28
imbrandonnot for ubuntu12:28
bmmTheMuso: ok, I've changed it all, except the "section name should be preceded by contrib/non-free". the new upload is http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=512312:44
TheMusobmm: I'll look in a sec.12:44
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TheMusoE: Couldn't find package libtext-template-perl12:45
TheMusoW: Unable to locate package libtext-template-perl12:45
TheMusoE: Could not satisfy build-dependency.12:45
TheMusoargh sorry wrong channel12:45
TheMusobmm: Is the md5 rsa code GPL?12:50
TheMusoOr another license?12:50
bmmsrc/MD5Info/MD5Hash/md5-cc/README makes it look Public domain if you mention the right name.12:51
TheMusoYou might want to state that in the cpyright file.12:52
TheMusoI have put a comment on revu anyway.12:52
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DaveMorrishi all, is there any reason why the OpenChrome driver for Unichrome and Unichrome Pro Graphics chipsets aren't provided as packages but instead users have to compile and install the driver themselves?12:57
TheMusoDaveMorris: WHats the license for the drivers?12:58
DaveMorrishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome - says they are free and open source 12:58
TheMusoah ok12:58
TheMusoAre they X drivers, or is there kernel code as well?01:00
TheMusoI guess nobody has got around to packaging them.01:00
imbrandonlooks to be all userland01:00
imbrandone.g. X01:00
TheMusoWithout having read anything myself, I'd guess thats why01:00
DaveMorrisso there won't be a problem with me attempting to package them up for mythbuntu01:04
TheMusoI'd say not, no.01:04
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imbrandonTheMuso: hehe01:07
TheMusoimbrandon: Feel like doing other stuff that I want to get done.01:08
imbrandonright on :)01:08
TheMusoIts so easy to get into a rhythm with all the revu/merge work.01:08
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persiaTheMuso: What do you use now?01:14
TheMusopersia: I currently use dchroot, with each chroot on its on small partition, and pbuilders inside these. WOrks well.01:17
persiaTheMuso: One dchroot for each release (on dedicated partitions), with a dedicated pbuilder for each?  Where do you do install testing? In the dchroots?01:19
TheMusopersia: Yes.01:19
TheMusoKeeps my default install tidy, and I can roll my chroots back from a tarball.01:20
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arne_Maybe someone here can answer this pbuilder question: I built packages for my library with pbuilder. Now I want to also build a package for an application using this library but this fails with unsatisfied deps since my library is not in the repositories. Can I fix this somehow?01:35
bmmTheMuso: i've edited the copyright file. Whenever you get back on ubuntu duty and have some time over, it's now: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5124 Thanks for the comments!01:36
TheMusobmm: Heh sure.01:36
Kmosarne_: sudo pbuilder login --save-after-login01:36
Kmosarne_: after you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list01:36
imbrandonarne_: and / or install it after logged in and it will save01:38
arne_Kmos: if i change the sources.list this would mean I need to set up a local repository containing my packages, right?01:39
Kmosarne_: i think so01:40
Lamegothat is why i love dchroot :P01:41
arne_BTW. to get a package into universe, I would file a bug report?01:43
Kmosarne_: yes.. with [needs-packing]  in the title01:44
Kmosand a tag needs-packaing01:44
arne_and final question: when I make new releases, how do I make sure the package will get updated?01:47
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ranfarne_, I think you also file a bug (wishlist: new version available. please update).01:56
Kmosif there is a upstream new version, tag it with "upgrade"01:57
imbrandon[..] 02:08
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bmmHmmm... after installing my package I now get problems with the manual. Doing  man /usr/share/man/man1/ccbuild.1.gz works but man ccbuild will give an error and empty manpage02:28
ranfWhat error?02:30
ranfbmm, what error?02:40
bmmranf: Manual page ccbuild(1) line ?/? (END)02:40
ranfbmm, sorry never seen this.02:41
bmmranf: You can get it with "touch a.tmp; man ./a.tmp"02:41
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bmmi just found out.02:42
bmmSo there seems to be an empty file with the same name somewhere.... I'll have to check my system. But it doesn't seem to be a packaging problem though.02:42
bmmso that's ok ;-D02:42
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bmmranf: thank! found the problem, was an empty manual in /usr/local/share....02:44
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ranfbmm, nice to know if ever I get the same prob.02:45
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ranfWhat can I do about these errors? http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/emelfm2-0705112325/linda  I'm quite sure the problem comes from the upstream debian/ dir.02:48
ranfhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5112 that is.02:49
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AnAnthow do I upgrade pbuilder to the new distro ?02:54
TheMusoAnAnt: Use pbuilder login --save-after-login, and modify sources.list. Then exit, and run pbuilder update02:56
persiaranf: If you just want to get rid of the errors, you could clean up in clean: (I think).02:57
AnAntTheMuso: thanks02:58
TheMusoAnAnt: Welcome.02:58
AnAntTheMuso: I remember there used to be a more elegant way before02:58
TheMusoThats the only way I know of. :)02:58
Adri2000\sh_away: xchm - your changelog says the only ubuntu change is the .desktop file change, but there are also Build-{Depends,Conflicts} and maintainer changes...03:00
ranfpersia, in debian/rules?03:01
persiaranf: That's a thought (not tested).03:02
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ranf_persia, that didn't do it. Other ideas?03:32
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ScottKBug #114159 is ready for UUS review (sorry crimsun - went to bed last night without attaching the debdiff).03:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 114159 in python-numpy "Merge python-numpy 1.0.2-2 from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11415903:43
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ScottKgeser: The new python-dns just hit Debian unstable.  You are marked as having touched it last because you uploaded it after fixing up my patch.03:55
persiaranf: I've just tried a few things, and although I can get a clean binary, I cannot get clean lintian output from the source file without overrides.  My recommendations are summarised at http://pastebin.ca/48489503:55
ScottKgeser: I'm the new Debian maintainer for the package.  It's a sync now.  I'll go ahead and file the sync bug.03:56
geserScottK: if you have time you can merge/sync it03:56
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ranfpersia, will look into it. Thanks.04:06
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ScottKStevenK: url?04:11
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nixternalstgraber: what are you twitchin' for?04:12
nixternalStevenK: ^^04:12
nixternalsorry st on that one04:12
StevenK"A super cool DD" ? :-P04:13
nixternalwell I was going to put "an ass of a DD", but thought you wouldn't like that ;p04:14
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ScottKBug #114249 is ready for UUS review...04:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 114249 in python-dns "Sync request python-dns 2.3.0-6 from Debian Unstable (Main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11424904:14
StevenKnixternal: I bet you were. :-P04:16
StevenKScottK: Looking.04:16
ScottKStevenK: Thanks.04:16
bmmIf somebody is able to comment on my REVU upload http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5125 I'll be here to fix and reply it :-D04:17
nixternalthis sucks, I can't use revu at all. It will not decrypt the password correctly04:21
nixternalslap me in the head somebody04:22
StevenKScottK: Done.04:23
bmmnixternal, what is going wrong?04:24
nixternallogin with full email address, not a username ;)04:24
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nixternaltells you how long it has been since I last logged in04:24
ScottKStevenK: Thanks.04:26
AnAntHello, I updated pbuilder , now when I try to build a package I get an error that it can't find debhelper !04:28
ScottKStevenK: Any interest in another one (merge)?04:30
AnAnthmm, nevermind04:31
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StevenKScottK: Not really, but that's because it's 12:30am. :-)04:32
ScottKStevenK: Thanks for taking care of python-dns.04:32
StevenKNo problem.04:33
nixternalquick question, the diff.gz that is created. I am getting the config.{sub,guess} in there and someone commented on revu:04:34
nixternal* the diff.gz should not contain the config.{sub,guess} bits04:34
nixternalhow could I prevent that from happening?04:34
persianixternal: Delete in clean:, copy in configure:04:35
StevenKThat's still a little icky.04:35
nixternalgotcha, thanks04:35
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StevenKBut most of autobork makes things icky. :-P04:35
nixternalwhich way would you go about doing it then?04:35
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bluekujaimbrandon, do you have a minute for a merge review?04:49
imbrandonbluekuja, not this second i have a down webserver, i can in about ~45 min if all goes well04:49
bluekujaimbrandon, oh ok np then :)04:50
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nixternalanyone up for a revu?05:30
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leonelhello mous 05:53
leonelmous ??  motus !05:53
sorsiswhy enemy territory is not as ubuntu package?05:53
ScottKsorsis: Probably nobody packaged it.05:54
nixternalI suck at that game, so I am not about to package it ;)05:55
sorsisnixternal: good reason05:56
angasulegame support is kind of... not good05:56
leonelI'm very good  with that game  i Finish  in seconds  always death but finish fast :)05:56
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nixternalhahaha leonel 06:05
jdongleonel: you know... finishing fast is not always a good thing in life ;-)06:06
jdongespecially in terms of relationships... but enough about my personal 06:07
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leoneljdong: you are right   06:07
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leonelreally I'm not much a  games  fan06:07
jdongnor am I06:08
jdongI suck at all of them06:08
jdongonce in a while, I'll start up UT2004, name some bots after people that I hate, put them on novice, and run around with god mode killing them 5000 times06:09
jdonglol I'm kidding :D06:09
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PrezuGuys, I recently added a package to Debian. I'd also like to see it in Ubuntu. So should I ubuntize it and add it to REVU?06:20
nixternaljdong: so now I understand the the UT2004 screen shot with the one bot named nixternal ;p06:21
jdongnixternal: LOL :)06:21
ScottKPrezu: If it's in Debian, no need, just ask to have it synced from Debian06:21
persiaPrezu: As this is the beginning of a development cycle, it should be synchronisd in the next couple weeks (so long as it has passed NEW in Debian)06:21
PrezuScottK: Who should I ask for it?06:21
ScottKPrezu: Once that's done, future updates you do in Debian automatically end up in Ubuntu.06:22
ScottKPrezu: Not sure.06:22
ScottKPrezu: They auto sync periodically as persia says, so I think just wait and see a bit....06:22
PrezuIt already left NEW queue. It's in the archive now.06:23
PrezuSo it should hit Ubuntu automaticly soon?06:23
ScottKpersia: ? Do all Debian packages automatically appear here?  I didn't think so.06:24
Prezuthis is the one06:24
persiaPrezu: You can check the status of the Ubuntu NEW queue at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue06:25
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ScottKPrezu: We are a long way from the Gutsy release, so I'd just keep an eye on Ubuntu NEW and if it doesn't show up, as for a sync via a bug: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess06:26
geserScottK: mostly as long as they aren't on the blacklist06:27
ScottKgeser: Thanks 06:27
ScottKPrezu: geser is someone who would know.  Looks like you just need to wait.06:27
PrezuOk, thanks for info guys. :)06:28
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ScottKDebian NEW has only 5 packages in it right now.  Wow.  Someone has been very busy....06:30
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plugwashanyone know why ubutntu universe hasn't picked up pidgin06:34
plugwashi thought packages from sid were imported automatically06:34
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imbrandonplugwash, because it JUST came out of debian NEW06:36
imbrandonit will soon06:36
ScottK3 days ago (just checked).06:37
ScottKplugwash: Automatically, but not instantly.06:37
ScottKInteresting article for those with free reading time: http://www.riehle.org/computer-science/research/2007/computer-2007-article.html06:38
leonelScottK: hey ! the squirrelmail had to be modified  and  sent the new debdiff 06:44
ScottKI saw.  06:44
ScottKGreat that you're keeping with it.06:44
leonelyes 06:44
leonelnow I'm checking the security for dapper 06:44
ScottKYou're doing good.  Keep at it.06:44
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Adri2000plugwash: gaim/pidgin is main, not universe; https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin06:52
lioneland it has been imported06:55
plugwashgaim is main but afaict pidgin is a completely seperate package06:57
ScottKAdri2000: I checked and your tooltip change for DaD works with Konqueror too.  It's interesting because Konq actually displays an open text entry box.06:57
plugwashso i don't see why gaim being in main would stop pidgin being auto-imported to universe06:57
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lionelplugwash: pidgin has been imported07:00
Adri2000plugwash: right pidgin is currently in universe, but it's going to be moved to main and will replace gaim, and it is/will be maintained by the core-devs (especially seb128) not by us (motus)07:00
Adri2000ScottK: what is "open text entry box"?07:01
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ScottKAdri2000: The comments field looks very different in Konq.07:03
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ScottKThere is a visible box and the text looks like it's been typed in, not rendered.07:04
ScottKIt makes it very clear that the text there is editable, and not static.07:04
ScottKMuch clearer for my pre-web 2.0 brain.07:04
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Adri2000yeah please a screenshot, /me doesn't want to install all the kde deps :p07:06
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ScottKAdri2000: http://www.kitterman.com/kubuntu/dad.png07:11
Adri2000ScottK: ok, looks like it doesn't understand border-style: none;07:12
ScottKAdri2000: Sounds reasonable.  I actually like it better.  Makes it clear what's editable and what's not.  Also I'd have figured out I could scroll to the right to read the rest of the text with than look.07:13
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DarkSun88Hi all07:15
ScottKHi DarkSun8807:15
DarkSun88ScottK: Hi :)07:15
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leonelif I do a   apt-get source package  the downloaded package will be  the one in security  in case there's a newer package or the package in the universe repository  even if there's a security package ?07:34
ScottKleonel: If dapper-security is enabled for universe source packages and no repo with a newer version is enabled, yes.07:35
ScottKAlternatively, use dget to get it from launchpad and unpack it with dpkg-source -x07:36
man-diScottK: or shortcut both with dget -x ...07:38
ScottKAhh.  Did not know that.  Thanks.07:38
man-diScottK: millions of commands and their options are hard to remember07:39
ScottKHeh.  That's certainly true.07:39
persiaIf anyone is strong with debian/copyright, could you tell what is missing from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20520/?07:40
PhinnFortwhat is the ubuntu moderators channel again?07:40
PhinnFortthere's a spammer in #kubuntu07:40
lionelmost of them must be flying :-(07:41
PhinnFortargh... darn conferences;)07:41
man-dipersia: it lists no copyright07:42
man-dipersia: after the copyright headline follows the license07:42
man-dipersia: and license != copyright07:42
persiaman-di: That's one thing to fix, and I know I need copyright dates.  Anything else?07:43
man-dipersia: {GPL|LGPL}07:44
man-dichoose the right one07:44
ScottKleonel: dapper-security doesn't have a squirrel mail in it: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squirrelmail07:44
man-diand edit the text next to this accordingly if its GPL07:44
persiaman-di: Thanks.  One finds the strangest things inthe archives sometimes :)07:44
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ScottKleonel: 1.4.6-1 in the regular dapper repo is what you should start from07:45
man-dipersia: and you have to say which parts are using what license07:45
ScottKleonel: dget -x http://librarian.launchpad.net/1963659/squirrelmail_1.4.6-1.dsc07:45
man-diand link/include the MIT license07:45
man-dipersia: I'm one of the Debian debian/copyright fascists07:46
man-dipersia: when you have fixed the issues I can take another look. just ping me07:46
persiaman-di: Right.  So I might just want to delete this, and start with a fresh debian/copyright, check the licenses of the code, and put the correct upstreams, dates, and licenses (and links) in the file.  Thanks for your help: I'll definitely ping you again when I have something better.07:47
man-dipersia: getting it right is always lot of work07:48
ScottKpersia: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/03/msg00023.html and messages linked from it have detailed advice.07:48
persiaScottK: Thanks.07:48
man-dipersia: and at least the Debian ftp-masters are very interested in getting it right before it enters the archive07:48
persiaman-di: The debian/copyright I pasted is already in the Debian archives :)  It's just four years old.07:49
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ScottKIME Mithrandir is even tougher than the Debian ftp masters on copyright/license stuff.07:49
persiaScottK: Except on sync'd packages, I agree.07:49
man-dipersia: four years was before Ganneff started processing NEW queue07:50
persiaman-di: That's probably how this slipped through.07:50
man-dipersia: Ganneff is the guy who wrote the mail ScottK pasted07:50
leonelthanks  ScottK07:51
man-dipersia: today you get rejected when the copyright year is missing07:51
ScottKIf I have depends lib1 | lib2, if lib2 is available (installed) will the system just use that or will it install lib1 in preference if it's available?07:58
plugwashdpkg-buildpackage doesn't install anything, not source what apt-get build-dep, pbuilder and builldd do07:59
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leonelwow   dapper's squirrelmail needs  10 patches08:02
leonelScottK: Should I apply the 10 patches  once  and  put in the changelog de description for those 10 patches ?08:02
leonelScottK: and in launchpad  how do I handle ?08:03
leonelScottK:  fill 1 bug for  each patch ?  or  file a  10 bugs report ?08:03
nixternalpatching is so much fun..I prefer cherry picking an application in stable releases...it really takes up the entire day ;)08:04
ScottKleonel: File one bug describing all 10 issues08:04
leonelScottK:  ok08:04
leoneleven  the  las one  is already  filed  with the  last bugfix ?08:04
ScottKChangelog will have to describe all the changes.08:04
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ScottKGiven that's only one of 10 issues, I'd say file a new bug and mention that you are fixing the exisiting bug for dapper.08:05
ScottKSomeone more experienced might have a better idea.08:05
ScottKgeser or crimsun are you around?08:06
persialeonel: When I've uploaded packages that fix multiple bugs, I've opened a new bug, and made sure to note which other bugs were closed in the changelog.  When the upload was complete, I updated all the closed bugs.08:07
leonelthank persia08:08
persiaman-di: Is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20525/ better?08:12
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leoneledgy's squirrelmail needs  7 patches ..08:22
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geserScottK: I'm around08:24
ScottKgeser: leonel is looking for advice on how to update squirrelmail for security issues in dapper.  There are 10 outstanding vulnerabilities08:25
ScottKI wasn't sure exactly what to advise him and was looking for someone more experienced.08:26
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ScottKand similarly 7 for edgy...08:26
ScottKleonel: Neither of those packages have a patching system installed do they?08:27
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ScottKleonel: If you have questions, I will try to answer them as best I can.  Hopefully geser can watch over my shoulder as he's more experienced (is MOTU).08:33
geserlooks like squirrelmail doesn't use a patch system :(08:35
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plugwashdoes it use CDBS?08:36
geseronly build-dep is debhelper08:36
ScottKgeser: That's correct.  For the feisty-security fix, crimsun advised leonel to use the edit the source and debdiff method rather than installing a patch system.08:37
geserbut that is only one patch, isn't it?08:38
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leonelScottK: I don't  think they have the patching system     I'm installing  dapper and Edgy to start the patching and tests08:43
ScottKSince the Feisty package didn't it'd be REALLY unusual if the older ones did.08:44
leonelScottK: and  I think I'll patch the others  the same way as feisty 08:44
ScottKI think that's what you should do.08:45
geserwith ten or seven patches and each patch touching several files I would probably install a patching system08:45
leonellet'me  finish installing  those 2 systems    and  let you know 08:45
geseras it allows to review the individual patches easier08:45
leonelqemu  is great :)08:45
geserbut security updates have their own rules, so don't take my word for given08:46
geserkeescook: are you around?08:46
man-dipersia: I would indent the three GPL paragraphs08:47
persiaman-di: Thanks.  I also noticed I forgot the trailer (The debian packaging is (c) ...).08:47
man-dipersia: and what is about the MIT license? where these wrong in the old version?08:47
persiaman-di: Completely.  I'm not sure where that came from, but it's not there now.08:48
man-dipersia: and you check all the sources?08:48
man-dijust to be sure08:48
ScottKpersia: grep -R copyright * can be useful08:49
geserdon't forget -i08:49
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ScottKgeser: Good point.08:50
persiaman-di: Unfortunately, only two files contain copyright information (see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20527/ for an update), and I've noted these (in the improved version).  The rest is blank.  If upstream were even slightly active, I'd complain, but the project has been mostly dead for about three years.08:50
persiaScottK: Only when upstream follows the terms of their own license :)08:50
man-dipersia: good work08:52
persiaman-di: Thanks again for reviewing this.  Now, to fix the archives :)08:52
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psusidid apt ever get fixed to look at the suggested and/or recommends: headers and install those packages as well?09:09
ScottKpsusi: IIRC it will install recommends, but not suggests.  Not sure though.09:11
psusiScottK: is there some option you have to set to make it do this?09:11
ScottKDunno.  Sorry.09:12
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ranfaptitude daes it different by default09:13
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ScottKMaybe that's what I was thinking of.09:14
psusiyea, I can't find any docs on the subject09:15
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ScottKgeser: I see you are doing merges...  If you have the time/interest, Bug #114159 is waiting for a uus ack.09:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 114159 in python-numpy "Merge python-numpy 1.0.2-2 from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11415909:29
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Simon80ok, someone must be able to help me out here:  what's the canonical way to check if a variable is set when using bash?09:57
Simon80right now I've found that if [ ${!HOME[*] } ] ;  works, but it seems too esoteric, like there might be a less ugly way09:58
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AnAnt_in the docs file, can I add a directory ?09:59
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Simon80AnAnt_: that file is read by dh_installdocs, so you should check that10:02
Simon80the answer seems to be year10:02
Simon80stupid hand, lol10:03
Simon80i.e., read man dh_installdocs, and same goes for any other files anyone has questions about10:03
Simon80like, none of that stuff happens automagically, it's all just debhelper's doing, so the answers are in debhelper10:03
Simon80...I don't mean to say RTFM though, just trying to be informational10:04
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leonelso let me get this10:07
leonelmost of the updates come  from debian unstable ?10:07
leonelif there's a security bug10:08
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leonelsearch first  in debian if there's a fix  and  use the update here10:08
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leonelif there's no update in debian   do the fix for ubuntu  and  then  debian gets the update ?10:09
leonelI'm I right ?10:09
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redbullfxHow do i get rid of the splash screen right after login in???? or where the file is so i can config it????10:20
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geserleonel: in the development version or in released versions?10:26
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leonelgeser: in released versions 10:36
geserboth Debian and Ubuntu has an own security team10:37
geseralthough the Ubuntu security team only fixes security bugs in main and only publish security updates in universe if somebody prepares them10:38
geserthe security teams (from all distributions) exchange the patches that are available10:39
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leonelgeser: so it's recommended to see if debian has fixes for any bug in universe ?10:44
geserit's possible that Ubuntu is vulnerable but Debian stable isn't due to different versions (and vice versa)10:45
geserso you should also check for security bugs fixed in unstable which more comparable to Ubuntu than Debian stable10:47
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geserespecially when there are new Ubuntu releases after the last Debian stable release10:47
gesersometimes you have to hunt down the patch yourself as it was fixed in Debian unstable with a new upstream version (which isn't acceptable for a security update)10:52
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leonelgeser: yes backporting bugfixes  10:54
leonelwhat can be done If I need a newer package for  dapper10:55
leonellet's say  clamav    for example 10:55
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leonelclamav is in universe 10:55
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leonelcan the new version be  backported and maintained ?10:55
geserthat was the question on the last MOTU meeting10:56
leonelreally ?10:56
leonelis there a Log ?10:56
geserthe problem with clamav is that 0.90 changed the api and you need to update/backport all clamav using packages too10:56
geserafaik there is no log, as nearly nobody appeared10:57
geserScottK sent a mail about it and keescook wanted to sent some info too10:57
leonelyes  there's need to  update all the dependencies10:58
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geserhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2007-April/001584.html is the mail10:59
geserone problem is how to test if the backported packages still work (regressions)10:59
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geserScottK: uploaded python-numpy11:02
ScottKgeser: Thanks.11:02
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leonelgeser: big work to test all the backported packages ...11:08
leonelgeser: but with time and resources  can be done ?11:09
shawarma_Ah... Home at last.11:09
leonelno pbuilder for  edgy and dapper ?11:10
leonelhttp://revu.tauware.de/~laserjock/ ?11:10
leonelfound it11:11
leonelname this script 'pbuilder-dapper', 'pbuilder-edgy', 'pbuilder-feisty'11:11
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leonelpbuilder-ubuntu has  :-buildresult $BASE_DIR/${DISTRIBUTION}_result11:12
leoneland pbuilder-feisty  has :11:13
leonel-buildresult $BASE_DIR/$DISTRIBUTION_result11:13
leonelwhich one to use ?11:13
leonelfeisty's and rename do dapper , edgy ?11:13
geserthe one with ${DISTRIBUTION}11:15
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geseryou can rename it to -feisty, -edgy, -dapper, -gutsy too11:18
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