[12:11] <guigouz> does dapper have a xen-enabled kernel (for it as a guest) ?
[02:28] <zion_da> hi
[02:28] <zion_da> small question
[02:29] <zion_da> somehow i have a delay in the menus 
[02:30] <zion_da> i tried to change gtk menu delay to 0 and it wont work
[02:30] <zion_da> the delay is only in beryl interface and
[02:30] <zion_da> what can i do ?
[02:33] <foo> Beryl?
[02:33] <foo> I'd ask in #ubuntuforums or #ubuntu
[02:34] <zion_da> thanks!
[03:50] <DaveMora> I will be attempting to install ubunto on a HP-Proliant Server. Does anyone know of any possible issues? 
[10:32] <Gruelius> I installed build-essential however i cant compile my app, it tells me that Glib 2.0 is missing
[10:33] <Gruelius> i tried to install linux-kernel-headers however it said it was allready installed
[10:35] <ivoks> how is this related to servers?
[10:37] <Gruelius> because im running server ed?
[10:38] <foo> ivoks: hm, so this is a servers channel. That's what I thought. Someone asked about beryl in here earlier. hehe
[10:38] <Gruelius> and i get 0 responses in the normal channel
[10:38] <ivoks> Gruelius: compiling applications needs headers of some libraries
[10:38] <ivoks> and your app said that you don't have glib 2.0
[10:39] <ivoks> first thing you should do then is 'apt-cache search glib 2.0 development
[10:39] <Gruelius> is that how you search packages?
[10:39] <ivoks> yes
[10:39] <Gruelius> allways wondered :D
[10:39] <foo> ivoks: What monitoring system do you use? If any. zenoss, or nagios or something
[10:40] <Gruelius> im going to go on ubuntu in a tic, expect me to be back with more semi server related questions
[10:40] <ivoks> foo: munin
[10:40] <foo> ivoks: hmm, used nagios/zenoss before?
[10:40] <ivoks> no, but zenoss will be packaged for gutsy (probably)
[10:40] <ivoks> if they resolve they copyright issues
[10:41] <ivoks> their
[10:41] <foo> gutsy? Is that a distro?
[10:41] <ivoks> ufff :)
[10:41] <ivoks> that's next ubuntu
[10:41] <foo> ahh
[10:41] <ivoks> 7.10
[10:41] <foo> ohhh
[10:41] <foo> Nice :)
[10:43] <foo> ivoks: hm, I want to have systems log stuff like /var/log/messages and syslog to a remote system... what's the best way to do this? I'm thinking about writing a script that whenever it sees a new line appended to the log, then either http://domain.com/?event=something ... or, ssh somehost 'cat $line >> /home/log/master.log'  ... or something. You see? Basically, say I got like 3 systems and I want to be able to read the logs from one central location
[10:45] <ivoks> logwatch?
[10:45] <ivoks> this is periodic
[10:45] <ivoks> on mail
[10:45] <foo> hmmm
[10:45] <foo> So, logwatch would e-mail me my logs daily or something?
[10:46] <ivoks> yes
[10:47] <foo> Mhmm, I see. I'd rather have it write to my server via text... that way I can (theoretically) sit on the server, tail -f log.txt ... and watch everything from however many systems I setup. You know what I mean? Not to mention, I can filter some stuff if I wanted to.
[10:47] <ivoks> syslog?
[10:48] <foo> Yeah, ssh host 'echo $line >> /somewhere/txt' works. Just need to have ssh keys setup
[10:48] <foo> Hm, what do you mean syslog?
[10:48] <ivoks> syslog can send logs to another computer
[10:49] <foo> Hmm. I see. I'll have to check the man page for that. And, I don't think I've seen syslog on RHEL systems. Or maybe I just need to install it
[10:49] <foo> Does syslog send via ssh? 
[10:49] <foo> If you'd happen to know, of course
[10:49] <ivoks> syslogd is on all linux machines
[10:50] <foo> ah, yup
[10:51] <foo> Hm, now, taking it a step further... says I wanted /var/log/syslog|messages|auth.log ... and /var/log/apache2/error.log ... is it safe to say that if I wanted to do this I would have to write something?
[10:51] <foo> say*
[10:52] <ivoks> you can make all your apps logg to syslog
[10:53] <ivoks> and then forward syslog to another machine
[10:53] <foo> ah, I see
[10:53] <ivoks> or you can write your own thing
[10:53] <foo> Would you happen to know if syslog appends the data on another machine? Or does it just move the whole file over (via scp or something) ?
[10:54] <ivoks> append, of course
[10:54] <ivoks> no point in sending
[10:54] <foo> Hmm, I wonder how it does that
[10:54] <ivoks> same way IMAP server appends mail to your client
[10:54] <foo> When you say I can have my apps write to syslog, you mean have them write to /var/log/syslog - yeah?
[10:54] <foo> ohh, that's via mail as well
[10:55] <ivoks> no it's not via mail
[10:55] <foo> ah, my bad
[10:55] <ivoks> it's via TCP/IP, like mail, web and most of internet protocols
[10:55] <foo> ahh, I see
[10:55] <foo> Cool, thanks, I'll have to play around with that
[11:35] <Gruelius> I still get the error
[11:35] <Gruelius> configure: error: You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build.
[11:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> Gruelius, what are you trying to build, and how?
[11:36] <Gruelius> pigdin :P
[11:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah. *heh*
[11:36] <Gruelius> that is the ./configure stage
[11:36] <Gruelius> lets presume i am using a gui on my server :P
[11:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[11:37] <Gruelius> ive installed glib C++
[11:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> enable the deb-src lines in your sources.list, then seach on glib |grep dev
[11:37] <Gruelius> kk
[11:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> on glib/apt-cache search glib
[11:38] <Gruelius> where is my sources file located? ive forgotten the directory
[11:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> /etc/apt
[11:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/libdevel/libglib2.0-dev probably the packag eyou want?
[11:39] <Gruelius> probably
[11:39] <Gruelius> ive got all the other relevant sorts of libglib :p
[11:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[11:40] <Gruelius> im on that site allready, if i run into another compiling problem where should i look?
[11:41] <Gruelius> You must have the GTK+ 2.0 development headers installed to compile Pidgin.
[11:41] <Gruelius> is there a package that encompasses all building things?
[11:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> i suggest `apt-get build-dep gaim` as a start to getting all the pigdin libs
[11:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> got build-essential?
[11:42] <Gruelius> yesh
[11:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> you'll need it
[11:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[11:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[11:43] <Gruelius> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_feisty-backports_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[11:43] <Gruelius> its not commented in my sources.list file
[11:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> you'd better `sudo apt-get update`
[11:44] <Gruelius> lol yep forgot that one
[11:44] <Gruelius> before someone scolds me about this being a server channel, are there any other quiet irc channel's for general help?
[11:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> tried #ubuntu-au?
[11:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[11:44] <Gruelius> lol
[11:45] <Gruelius> and do dep build gaim i need... duh duh duh
[11:45] <Gruelius> 101mb of packages
[11:45] <Gruelius> 30*
[11:45] <Gruelius> my bad
[11:45] <Gruelius> still worth it?
[11:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> *grin*
[11:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> your call. not mine
[11:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> btw. serious about -au
[11:45] <Gruelius> lol
[11:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'll help you just the same ;)
[11:45] <Gruelius> haha
[11:46] <Gruelius> Is this the normal process for ubuntu? run wild on the irc till you can build stuff? :P
[11:46] <Gruelius> so there are variants of Glib that are required to build pigdin, variants specific to gaim that i must download?
[11:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> normal process probably involves looking at help.ubuntu.com :P
[11:46] <Gruelius> heh
[11:46] <Gruelius> how do i request that this gets put onto the packages thing
[11:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont know how different pigdin is to gaim
[11:47] <Gruelius> its like gaim but not ugly apparantly
[11:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> file a request bug.
[11:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> if it is 'the next gaim' then it'll get packaged, probably real soon now
[11:50] <Gruelius> well idk bout that but its just gaims ui that shits me :P
[11:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> -> #ubuntu-au
[11:51] <Gruelius> ive got another bug tho, with the desktop effects thing
[12:38] <amachu> hi, i want my laptop to connect to my desktop
[12:38] <amachu> i have a RJ-45 cable
[12:38] <amachu> laptop with Kubuntu Edgy
[12:38] <amachu> and desktop with edubuntu feisty
[12:39] <amachu> help wanted
[12:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> how is this server related?
[01:48] <Skaag> how do I add something to my PATH env var so that when I sudo -s it will be there?
[01:49] <Skaag> I tried /etc/profile and /root/.profile
[01:49] <Skaag> nothing works
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> add a 'if uid=0 use this PATH=' to your bashrc
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo -s = your bashrc, sudo -i = root bashrc
[01:50] <Skaag> I see!
[01:51] <Skaag> great, works now
[01:51] <Skaag> i've been struggling with this because of this small difference between -s and -i
[01:51] <Skaag> bummer ;-)
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> np. 
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:51] <Skaag> thanks Kamping_Kaiser 
[01:51] <Skaag> ;-)
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> enjoy mate :)
[01:51] <Skaag> now to try and get Xen working
[01:51] <Skaag> i'm a bit uneasy with having xen replace my kernel
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> i havent tried it
[01:53] <Skaag> I did simulations with apt-get
[01:53] <Skaag> to see what it will do..
[01:53] <Skaag> it plans to replace the kernel among other things
[01:53] <The__FBI> kamping_Kaiser: i have you surrounded
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> The__FBI, i'll not treat this as ban evasion.
[01:54] <Skaag> lol
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry about the distraction :)
[04:27] <dworkin> I have feisty and i want to install apache2 with ssl support, but the only apache in repos with ssl enabled is 1.3.34. how can i enable ssl in apache 2.2.3?
[10:26] <jam_> Anyone there?
[11:24] <foo> Hm, LayeredTech offers ubuntu servers; nice.