[12:01] <randomwalker> dell inspiron 640m aka 1400
[12:01] <d_> i've tried apt-get install yast but doesn't work :)
[12:01] <d_> doesn't find it...
[12:01] <stefg> d_ : wrong distro ... #suse is next door :-)
[12:01] <nickrud> rlfol
[12:01] <aro> randomwalker, one sec
[12:01] <d_> uhm
[12:01] <gglser> funkyhat: it says: Couldnt find Trash
[12:01] <funkyHat> hacked_kernel, because it deletes everything inside the object you specify, so if you accidentally type the wrong thing you could destroy your system... it's only as dangerous as the person that's typing
[12:01] <sonictwin> dyrne: ahhh its on /dev/sda2
[12:01] <d_> stefg:  i'm using ubuntu feisty
[12:01] <thor> @gg in nautilius type ctrl H
[12:01] <thor> that will show ur trash
[12:02] <danlock2> Hacked_kernel: lets say that you're in the home folder or any folder for that matter, and you run rm -rf */* it'll prolly nuke everything below you.
[12:02] <funkyHat> gglser, /home/username/.Trash (the . is important)
[12:02] <erUSUL> seesul: no problem
[12:02] <thor> its in ur home directory
[12:02] <xelados> hacked_kernel: 'rm' gets rid of files. Deletes them permanently, right? the -r flag tells it to delete that folder _and everything that's in it_. The -f flag means 'force', which obviously means that it should ignore any errors and delete files anyway.
[12:02] <hermanandpauline> ok to rationalise my question - evolution and gaim dont recognise a net connection but firefox and this does, i use 3rd party driver
[12:02] <xelados> If you did something like 'rm -rf ~', your entire home directory would be gone.
[12:02] <gglser> funkyhat: sorry for the stupid questions! and thanks for the help
[12:02] <d_> uff
[12:03] <siloko> talking about dangerous commands I turned my root into a swap partition when not paying attention !!
[12:03] <jacque1> hi everyone.  i'm back again.  i rebooted my machine and I still don't have sound.  I
[12:03] <xelados> Actually, I have a funny story to relate when it comes to rm.
[12:03] <wimdows> how do I install the kernel source? do I need to extract the source bz2 archive?
[12:03] <xelados> I installed a second instance of linux on Ubuntu.
[12:03] <xelados> chroot or something
[12:03] <ab__> cello_rasp I only have 2 laptops connected by wireless... cannot test other connection. It works locally though
[12:03] <hacked_kernel> funkyHat: what if I miss typed rmdir ~/*  instead of ~/abc  it wil also deletes everything inside my home dir
[12:03] <xelados> I thought I was in the chroot and wanted to get rid of it, so I did an rm -rf /
[12:03] <xelados> Ended up breaking my entire system!
[12:03] <jacque1> I found out that for some reason the GUI in ubuntu doesn't show the group "audio" as existing.  hence, I thought it was gone.
[12:03] <Gerro> seesul: think there is a way to have celestia output the constellations currently above your location as your desktop background.
[12:04] <d_> hello...does anybody know how to make working sound card (HDA ATI SB) with ubuntu feisty? must I install Yast? i can't find it..
[12:04] <sercik> hi
[12:04] <funkyHat> hacked_kernel, no because rmdir won't delete a directory unless it's empty
[12:04] <thor> i did a chmod 777 -R
[12:04] <bthornton> Where is the bash prompt style defined?  (i.e. instead of just "-bash-3.00#", I want it to be "[user@host directory] ")
[12:04] <thor> wiped out sudo priviledges
[12:04] <BigToe> Why doesn't Ubuntu Server recognise my HP Deskjet 5440?
[12:04] <stefg> hermanandpauline: you do not semm to be connected through a router... i'd try to 'sudo apt-get remove avahi daemon network-manager'. avahi has some strange behaviour on pppoe networks
[12:04] <xelados> funkyHat: Why does it insist on it being empty to delete? :\
[12:04] <cello_rasp>  ab__ its usually a network issue if it works locally.
[12:04] <danlock2> bthornton: your hostname prolly?
[12:04] <Gerro> d_: ubuntu is debian based so uses .deb instead of .rpm files so no yast, use synaptic or dpkg
[12:04] <xelados> That always bugged me about rmdir
[12:04] <xelados> Makes it kinda useless.
[12:05] <danlock2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rm_%28Unix%29 talks about rm -rf
[12:05] <jacque1> !audio
[12:05] <ab__> cello_rasp thanks, I'll check that
[12:05] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:05] <d_> Gerro: sorry, i'm newbie and i didn't know Yast was something like aptitude but for suse :S
[12:05] <dyrne> bthornton: google some .bashrc prompt examples
[12:05] <d_> ubotu i look for it..thank you
[12:05] <gortba> Hi. Is there a command that shows the hardware profile?
[12:06] <thor> sysinfo
[12:06] <thor> @gortba sysinfo
[12:06] <funkyHat> xelados, you can use --ignore-fail-on-non-empty .... but I find rm -r works just as well and is quicker to type ;)
[12:06] <BigToe> Why doesn't Ubuntu Server recognise my HP Deskjet 5440? I plug it in and have installed loads of different packages, but it's not printing and this is really annoying.
[12:06] <gortba> ok thanks.
[12:06] <hacked_kernel> funkyHat: thats means if I want to delete a dir and everything under it, to open each dir to delete all files in that dir before I delete the parent dir
[12:06] <d3t> helo free world
[12:06] <nickrud> gortba, also lshw and dmidecode from the command line, all you want and more than you'd think
[12:06] <dyrne> BigToe: i hate troubleshooting printer using the gnome gui tool.
[12:06] <dyrne> !cups > BigToe
[12:07] <BigToe> dyrne, I said ubuntu server.
[12:07] <funkyHat> hacked_kernel, if you want to delete a directory, look at it in Nautilus and click delete ;-)
[12:07] <aro> randomwalker, sorry I took so long, I was frantically searching for a solution but I have failed in that department. The only thing I can suggest is to google your model of laptop, or video card, or monitor type with common keywords. Or wait for someone else who can help you that would know the answer ;(
[12:07] <seesul> Gerro: sounds very cool, my child loves the stars and I had a lot of software running in windows for astronomy, could even connect tele to laptop. It is one of the mainreason why I have been holding back from making the switch completely
[12:07] <BigToe> If I had a GUI I probably would have fixed this by now, dyrne.
[12:07] <xelados> funkyHat: Yeah, no kidding.
[12:07] <wimdows> where can I find the kernel source?
[12:07] <danlock2> funkyHat: i don't use a gui ;-).
[12:07] <BigToe> But instead I have SSH. :S
[12:07] <danlock2> !print
[12:07] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:07] <randomwalker> aro: thanks for your help
[12:08] <BigToe> danlock2, that's no help
[12:08] <danlock2> why?
[12:08] <BigToe> most of the stuff there is aimed at GUI users.
[12:08] <randomwalker> aro: i wasted a lot of time trying to increase the screen resolution in my current machine (which has an nvidia card) and ran into exactly the same problem
[12:08] <danlock2> ah, okay.
[12:08] <nickrud> BigToe, try pointing you web browser at :631 on the remote host
[12:08] <Dracula}X{> Does anyone know how to share internet over firewire in ubuntu?
[12:08] <funkyHat> hacked_kernel, there's nothing WRONG with using rm with options like r and f, all I was saying is it can be dangerous, as long as you make sure you type the right thing you'll be fine ;)
[12:08] <randomwalker> aro: i don't want to waste time again, so i'm just going to use vista until it works by default in perhaps a future ubuntu release
[12:09] <hacked_kernel> funkyHat: by the way I deleted a whole partition by mistake using rm -r-f :)
[12:09] <d_> sorry...must I use alsa..oss or what to make my sound card working ?
[12:09] <Wiseguy> hey guys i just installed an app that put a shorcut in my menu automatically when i installed it in 6.10, but in 7.04 it doesnt place one... is there someway i maybe need to refresh the menu?
[12:09] <funkyHat> hacked_kernel, ouch
[12:09] <aro> randomwalker, I can also suggest researching "915resolution" fix
[12:09] <dyrne> Wiseguy: you can pkill gnome-panel
[12:09] <jacque1> can anyone tell me what /proc/asound/oss/sndstat tells me?  I have a soundblaster but this log says "SigmaTel" which is the disabled on-board soundcard.
[12:10] <BigToe> nickrud, thank you thank you thank you!
[12:10] <aro> randomwalker, though it sounds pretty hit or miss from what I'm reading
[12:10] <randomwalker> aro: thanks.. perhaps when i have more time
[12:10] <BigToe> I found the printer, and pressed add, and it added the printer!
[12:10] <nickrud> BigToe, yw.
[12:10] <funkyHat> d_, ALSA is the linux sound system... you don't have much choice I'm afraid
[12:10] <d_> nice..doesn't work..uff
[12:10] <gortba> ok. lshw and sysinfo didn't work. I'll be more specific--I'm trying to see if my soundcard is working. How can I do this?
[12:10] <dsmith_> Interesting   http://rjdohnert.wordpress.com/2007/04/01/dell-linux-first-look/
[12:10] <funkyHat> d_, what soundcard do you have?
[12:10] <d_> uhm
[12:11] <d_> it's onboard
[12:11] <d_> on my laptop
[12:11] <gortba> It's a soundblaster
[12:11] <d_> wait i can tell you exactly which model..
[12:11] <foomanchew> how do I allow anymous users to access a samba share on a linux server ?
[12:11] <d_> (my laptop is acer ferrari 1000)
[12:11] <funkyHat> gortba, cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:11] <LjL> !kernel > wimdows    (wimdows, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:11] <foomanchew> that is they do not have to use an account to authenticate ?
[12:11] <gglser> anyone here know how TeX can be used with Ubuntu? wouldnt want to go back to windows just for TeX
[12:11] <gortba> funkyHat: Trying that now.
[12:11] <jacque1> funkhat, what does this file tell me?  see my question above...
[12:12] <dyrne> gglser: what is TeX?
[12:12] <polm> How can I install Edgy to my RAID ? I've setup the stripe in BIOS, but Edgy only offers the individual drives for installation.
[12:12] <LjL> gglser: well no, for something like TeX you'd definitely need windows.
[12:12] <nickrud> gglser, install tetex, and or latex
[12:12] <LjL> (gglser, kidding.)
[12:12] <thor> you could try it under WINE
[12:12] <Ikonia> polm: fake raid -is not a great idea, software raid would be better
[12:12] <gglser> LjL: lol
[12:12] <polm> Ikonia: can I install to a software raid?
[12:12] <LjL> gglser, what's the problem with getting TeX running?
[12:12] <Ikonia> polm: I think you have to use the alternate cd
[12:13] <gglser> nickcrud: hmm I just read some posts and they all said it doesnt work well
[12:13] <polm> Ikonia: alternate cd?
[12:13] <gglser> LjL: still have to try
[12:13] <funkyHat> jacque1, no idea... sorry :/ looks like it's what bits of OSS emulation you have set up though
[12:13] <wimdows> cheers Ljl - figured out you just have to extract the Bzip2 archive yourself after apt-get install linux-source
[12:13] <Ikonia> polm: yes, there is a desktop cd, a server cd and an alternate cd
[12:13] <funkyHat> d_, can you run cat /proc/asound/cards please
[12:13] <polm> Ikonia: ahhh..gotcha.
[12:13] <gortba> funkyHat: I did what you said but I'm not sure what I'm looking at.
[12:13] <nickrud> gglser, I haven't used it ever on ubuntu, so ....
[12:13] <gglser> LjL: wanted to see if anyone had suggestions with what was better to isntall
[12:13] <d_> yes wait
[12:13] <gglser> nickcrud: k thanks!
[12:13] <logixoul> hi. can anyone help with http://rafb.net/p/B04YKq18.html ? I'm in the Kubuntu LiveCD right now.
[12:13] <d_> funkyHat: root@next:/proc#  cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:13] <d_>  0 [SB             ] : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
[12:13] <d_>                       HDA ATI SB at 0xb0000000 irq 17
[12:14] <funkyHat> gortba, you should be looking at a list of the soundcards in your computer
[12:14] <gglser> LjL: on the latex website it says: Your system distribution or vendor has probably provided a TeX system including LaTeX. Check your usual software source for a TeX package.
[12:14] <funkyHat> gortba, so if there's one there, then it looks like your soundcard is working
[12:15] <gortba> funkyHat: Doesn't that also show the internal soundcard?
[12:15] <hhhh> fuck nazis ,fuck islam
[12:15] <scarter> i'm considering adding some additional repos, but don't know where to check and see if they're safe/reliable. Any one know of a place where I can check/read any reviews?
[12:15] <d_> funkyHat: volume is up..but can't hear anything...in "sound preferences" if I click Test..can't hear anything too...
[12:15] <funkyHat> d_, ok so the soundcard is being picked up by ALSA... it could be that there's another volume control you need to change
[12:16] <d_> o_O
[12:16] <d_> how many volumes? :D
[12:16] <funkyHat> d_ in the volume control window go to preferences and tick all the boxes
[12:16] <jacque1> d_, have you ever had your sound working properly?
[12:16] <LjL> gglser, the basic package is tetex-bin i think. not a heavy tex user at all here
[12:16] <funkyHat> d_ well probably just master/front and PCM are the ones you need to worry about
[12:16] <f0rtune> im having a problem, im trying to make a bootable CD of xubuntu, but when i use the CD/DVD creator, it askes me to 'Create From Image' or 'Create with file', when i click 'Create from Image', nothing happens, anyone know why?
[12:16] <d_> jacque1: with windows yes...with ubuntu no
[12:16] <gglser> LjL: allright
[12:17] <funkyHat> gortba, yeah it should show the internal sound card too, unless you've disabled it in your bios config
[12:17] <d_> funkyHat: i've just used gnome-mixer and picked up ALL VOLUMES...but doesn't work o_O
[12:17] <jacque1> d_, ok - thanks.  I am having sound problems - but mine just started 2 days ago.  thought it may have been related.
[12:17] <nickrud> f0rtune, just right click the iso file, and select burn
[12:17] <cbs> whats the best Nvidia driver to use with feisty?
[12:18] <f0rtune> nickrud: will it burn it as a file or an image?
[12:18] <nickrud> f0rtune, as an image
[12:18] <dyrne> cbs: nvidia-glx should be pretty up to date
[12:18] <f0rtune> nickrud: ok thanks
[12:18] <gortba> funkyHat: Can you please look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20421/ and tell me if my Sound Blaster is working?
[12:18] <funkyHat> cbs I'd go with the drivers you get from the nvidia-glx package
[12:18] <nickrud> f0rtune, gnome does some things too simply ;)
[12:18] <cbs> dyrne: is there anything better?
[12:19] <funkyHat> gortba, which sound blaster is it?
[12:19] <void^_> cbs: nvidia-glx-new for cards newer than gf4
[12:19] <gortba> funkyHat: The only info I have is a booklet. Do you mean 16 PCI
[12:20] <cbs> so apt-get install nvidia-glx-new?
[12:20] <f0rtune> so i read that Dell is going to make computers that have Ubuntu pre-installed, is that true, and if it is, when will they hit US shelves?
[12:20] <funkyHat> gortba, it's a Soundblaster 16 PCI?
[12:20] <gortba> yes funkyHat
[12:20] <demon_spork> is anybody here familiar with the Beryl-Project site Wiki?
[12:21] <funkyHat> gortba, cool ;-). I have an ISA one of them somewhere.
[12:21] <Jowi> f0rtune, seems like it's true. but that discussion is better to have in #ubuntu-offtopic (non-support questions and general chat)
[12:21] <d_> uhm...can anybody help me with my sound card?
[12:21] <funkyHat> gortba, I think the SiS card is your soundblaster
[12:21] <demon_spork> is anybody here familiar with the Beryl-Project site Wiki? I need to revert an article back to another revision due to sabotage, and I need the instructions that someone deleted, but I can't figure out how to do it
[12:21] <logixoul> demon_spork: ask in #beryl
[12:21] <gortba> funkyHat: Ok good--so it should be working then right?
[12:21] <demon_spork> thx
[12:21] <funkyHat> gortba, yep
[12:22] <demon_spork> how do I register on freenode?
[12:22] <demon_spork> I need to in order to join #beryl
[12:22] <kitche> !register | demon_spork
[12:22] <ubotu> demon_spork: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:22] <cbs> unable to initialize frontend: dialog
[12:22] <gortba> funkyHat: Then I don't know what to do because I don't get any sound at all from my computer.
[12:22] <d_> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[12:22] <d_> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB] , device 0: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog] 
[12:22] <d_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[12:22] <d_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[12:22] <d_> root@next:/proc#
[12:22] <cbs> (Dialog frontend requires a screen at least 13 lines tall and 31 columns wide.)
[12:22] <cbs> what does that mean
[12:22] <funkyHat> !paste | d_
[12:22] <ubotu> d_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:23] <slvmchn> lol
[12:23] <variant> cbs: make the terminal window bigger. it's fairly self explanitory
[12:23] <slvmchn> pastebin you mothafucka
[12:23] <tinin> Please, could someone help me to unistall a package? it fails to do so in synaptic and even with "sudo aptitude purge nominalinex"
[12:23] <demon_spork> !ohmy | slvmchn
[12:23] <ubotu> slvmchn: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:23] <variant> slvmchn: mind the language please.. supposed to be family friendly in here
[12:23] <tinin> is there a command like sudo aptitude fix???
[12:23] <slvmchn> oh whoops demon_spork i'm so sorry, i thought i was in a different chan!
[12:23] <d_> funkyHat: do you think is ok if i change volume by gnome-mixer ?
[12:23] <slvmchn> my bad
[12:23] <logixoul> Can anyone help me with http://rafb.net/p/B04YKq18.html ? I'm in the Kubuntu LiveCD right now. Pretty please :)
[12:23] <d_> or must I use other mixer in my ubuntu ?
[12:24] <funkyHat> d_ either should be fine
[12:24] <d_> uhm..
[12:24] <makuseru> hi, i have a problem, i had a HP DVD writer and ive tried diffrent programs and diffrent brands of dvds, but it never burns one correctly, i always get errors, someone said K3B had a problem with HP writers, but ive tried more than just k3b, i dont need anything special for hp writers do i?
[12:24] <d_> so my problem is not for volume...but for sound card..probably i must install audio drivers... :(
[12:24] <LjL> !tex > gglser    (gglser, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:24] <nickrud> tinin, where'd you get that package, it's not in my lists
[12:24] <funkyHat> d_ did you look in preferences and tick all the other boxes for other controls?
[12:25] <gglser> LjL: wow thanks
[12:25] <tinin> nickrud, its a contability program
[12:25] <nootrope> I'm trying to install 7.04 and when I click the Install shortcut on the Live desktop, it tries to load an administrative app but then it closes it shortly thereafter and the supposed installation disappears.
[12:25] <d_> funkyHat: i can't understand what you mean to tick...
[12:25] <navets> can somebody help me set up s-video on ubuntu
[12:25] <d_> on devices ?
[12:25] <nickrud> tinin, but where's it from? how'd you install it?
[12:26] <funkyHat> d_ in the volume control window, click edit > preferences
[12:26] <funkyHat> d_ then you'll have a list of tracks
[12:26] <jrib> navets: nvidia?
[12:26] <odat> what is the terminal command to discover your internal ip address from your router?
[12:26] <d_> hem..i use mixer by terminal so i don't have edit..preferences... oo_O
[12:26] <funkyHat> d_ stupid question ;-) is there a volume control knob somewhere on your laptop?
[12:26] <tinin> nickrud from packages avaliable at a spanish linux project, based on ubuntu, i think (well, i needed them, but i could not get it to work)
[12:26] <d_> i can't find volume control in menu :)
[12:26] <navets> jrib: no its a intel onboard graphics card
[12:27] <nootrope> odat: ifconfig -a
[12:27] <nickrud> tinin, so how'd you install them?
[12:27] <d_> funkyHat: yes...and it's at max
[12:27] <d_> :)
[12:27] <darkstrikerd> can i use beryl with intel onboard?
[12:27] <funkyHat> d_ ah sorry, I meant if you right click on the volume icon next to the clock, then click open volume control
[12:27] <jrib> navets: hmm, don't know about those
[12:27] <d_> ah ok wait sorry
[12:27] <navets> jribk thx
[12:27] <funkyHat> darkstrikerd, I think so
[12:28] <funkyHat> Oh err...
[12:28] <funkyHat> Actually I don't know if they do AIGLX...
[12:28] <funkyHat> So you might have to use Xgl
[12:28] <d_> funkyHat: ok..it's all ticked...and all UP...
[12:28] <d_> but doesn't work...
[12:28] <tinin> It tells me this when i do "sudo aptitude purge nominalinex" ---> Making a copy of your BBDD in /root... --- /var/lib/dpkg/info/nominalinex.postrm: line 41: /etc/init.d/mysql: it does not exist          dpkg: error al procesar nominalinex (--purge):          error 127
[12:28] <funkyHat> :(
[12:28] <cox37777> has anyone ever had a grup 18 error?
[12:28] <nickrud> tinin, if you'd put your error up on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:29] <Jowi> darkstrikerd, depends on the chipset of your video card. I use it fine with a 945GM
[12:29] <tinin> nickrud Thats all
[12:29] <chrisjs169|brb> i accidentally disabled the login manager, how can i reenable it?
[12:29] <dyrne> chrisjs169|brb: depends. what did you do?
[12:29] <funkyHat> d_ if you click File > Change Device you can't see any other devices to the one you've selected can you?
[12:29] <d_> i have 2 devices..
[12:29] <d_> alsa and oss
[12:29] <darkstrikerd> Jowi: funkyHat: thanks
[12:29] <d_> i use alsa...but with oss doesn't work too :(
[12:29] <funkyHat> ok that's not it then :(
[12:30] <OD_Jonno> anyone know anything about installing Wubi?
[12:30] <AndyC2> hi
[12:30] <tinin> nickrud I think it's trying to make a copy of a database or so, but i also uninstalled mysql yet
[12:30] <chrisjs169|brb> dyrne: well, actually it was my friend that did it....I believe they unchecked 'Graphical Login Manager' in the controls
[12:30] <AndyC2> im having an issue with device icons
[12:30] <OD_Jonno> anyone?
[12:30] <AndyC2> my usb stick icon is the normal hard drive, not the removable one
[12:30] <nickrud> tinin, ah, it's looking for mysql to turn it restart it, probably. A silly fix would be to install mysql, uninstall the package, then uninstall mysql. And file a bug
[12:30] <tinin> and i can't even upgrade anything
[12:30] <funkyHat> Anyone - is pulseaudio installed by default in Feisty?
[12:30] <Yggdrasil> chrisjs169|btb you talking about gdm ?
[12:30] <Jowi> darkstrikerd, use aiglx instead of xgl though (just add the composite option to your xorg.conf if you use egdy or later (haven't installed feisty yet))
[12:31] <chrisjs169|brb> Yggdrasil: yeah
[12:31] <tinin> nickrud thanx i'll try that way
[12:31] <Yggdrasil> hmm.. try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:31] <Yggdrasil> ?
[12:31] <nathan_> Anyone know howto do a animated wallpaper?
[12:31] <funkyHat> d_ checked all the mute buttons too?
[12:31] <andreas_> Hi. How do I enable SLAB? I have just installed it via automatix2
[12:31] <nickrud> tinin, put /var/lib/dpkg/info/dominalinex.postrm on paste-nl.org
[12:31] <d_> funkyHat: i have 2 devices..one is HDA ATI SB (ALSA) and the other is CONEXANT ID 2BFA (OSS)
[12:31] <Xen_> hello all
[12:31] <OD_Jonno> can ANYONE help me with installing Wubi?
[12:31] <d_> funkyHat: no mute buttons activated... :(
[12:31] <tinin> but i don't like that program to write at root
[12:31] <LjL> !automatix > andreas_    (andreas_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:31] <nickrud> tinin, probably only need to comment out a couple of lines
[12:31] <funkyHat> d_ the OSS one is your modem
[12:31] <Jowi> darkstrikerd, ...and I have to add that I only have 512MB ram and the integrated intel chip use shared ram and it flies :)
[12:32] <d_> mm
[12:32] <tinin> nickrud ok
[12:32] <lbawinowns> Hi guys, Anyone know how to set Thunderbird as main email-program?
[12:32] <chrisjs169|brb> Yggdrasil: I believe I tried that a few times....even went as far as removing and purging gdm, ubuntu-desktop, and xserver-xorg (and reinstalling all of them)
[12:32] <d_> funkyHat: boh :( i will look better tomorrow so now i can to sleep...at the moment...thank you... ;(
[12:32] <andreas_> !worksfor me
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about worksfor me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <darkstrikerd> Jowi: i have 1gb and my chip use shared ram too
[12:32] <Yggdrasil> chrisjs169|brb darn,
[12:32] <Yggdrasil> not sure then
[12:33] <Yggdrasil> chrisjs169|brb you can startx and then use the gui to reenable it ?
[12:33] <logixoul> Please help with http://rafb.net/p/B04YKq18.html - trying to resize ext3...
[12:33] <nickrud> tinin, I'm taking what you said before, <tinin> and i can't even upgrade anything to mean you can't install mysql
[12:33] <paozinho> someone know how to "pilot" Avidemux ??? Im with a Error =/
[12:34] <wimdows> does anyone here have a RocketRaid card?
[12:34] <chrisjs169|brb> Yggdrasil: says the X server is already active...hold on
[12:34] <Jowi> darkstrikerd, if you use edgy it should be as simple as to enable the composite option and press ctrl-alt-backspace to restart the x server.
[12:34] <angasule> !motu
[12:34] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[12:34] <tinin> nickrud ill try to post that thing, this machine is slow :)
[12:34] <darkstrikerd> Jowi: im using feisty
[12:34] <ILuv2GivFacials> im a newbie. Just installed ubuntu on ATA HD. How do i configure GRUB so that it can see my windows installation on SATA HD ?
[12:34] <paozinho> someone know how to "pilot" Avidemux ??? Im with a Error =/
[12:34] <nickrud> tinin, I'll be at for about an hour, ping me when you're ready
[12:35] <nickrud> *the desk
[12:35] <funkyHat> damn... d_ has gone and I think I just found his solution
[12:35] <dyrne> chrisjs169|brb: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults    should work if gdm is in /etc/init.d/
[12:35] <nathan_> HEre is what I mean that I'm looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYgV2GlsufI
[12:35] <nickrud> tinin, um, back in 15
[12:35] <jacque1> what's his soln funkyht?
[12:35] <Yggdrasil> nice answer dyrne
[12:35] <Yggdrasil> the right way
[12:35] <darkstrikerd> nathan_: nice!
[12:35] <tinin> nickrud ok i'll be trying
[12:35] <Yggdrasil> nathan_ how did that work for you the other night ?
[12:36] <paozinho> someone know how to "pilot" Avidemux ??? Im with a Error =/
[12:36] <paozinho> someone know how to "pilot" Avidemux ??? Im with a Error =/
[12:36] <HymnToLife`> !repeat | paozinho
[12:36] <zlx> I just installed ubuntu but when its loading it does about 3% of the bar and freezes then says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" anyone know why?
[12:36] <ubotu> paozinho: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:36] <jacque1> funkyhat, what did you think _d x was?
[12:36] <logixoul> Please help with http://rafb.net/p/B04YKq18.html - trying to resize ext3...
[12:36] <darkstrikerd> paozinho: what error?
[12:36] <Bidash> do i have x windows after installing ubuntu?
[12:37] <Bidash> X-Windows
[12:37] <Yggdrasil> oh that makes me really want beryl
[12:37] <funkyHat> jacque1, 'use external amplifier' switch
[12:37] <kitche> Bidash: yes if you installed
[12:37] <jacque1> oh ok..
[12:37] <darkstrikerd> nathan_: animated wallpaper is a beryl feature?
[12:37] <Bidash> kitche is x-windows an alternative to gnome and kde or something different?
[12:37] <gortba> funkyHat: are you still around?
[12:38] <kitche> Bidash: gnome/kde runs on top of X
[12:38] <Bidash> ah
[12:38] <Bidash> kitche thanks
[12:38] <funkyHat> gortba, yep
[12:38] <gortba> funkyHat: would you mind helping me to try and get my sound up and running?
[12:38] <gortba> First, I should tell you that Im using Fedora Core 6 not Ubuntu.
[12:39] <mneptok> gortba: #fedora
[12:39] <bruenig> !offtopic | gortba
[12:39] <ubotu> gortba: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:39] <tinin> nickrud http://pastebin.ca/483854
[12:39] <mneptok> gortba: this channel is for help with Ubuntu
[12:39] <Bradford> Hey, looking for advice on WiFi card in Ubuntu. I have tried everything to get it to work.
[12:39] <JammasterJay> I have a quick question (im a newbie - ebuntu) running from root is bad...got that...how do i know if im running fror root or not?
[12:39] <Jowi> logixoul, maybe you should try to reboot after that time fix?
[12:39] <gortba> yeah I know. You guys are just much more friendly.
[12:39] <mneptok> gortba: so switch
[12:39] <bruenig> JammasterJay, root is not enabled by default so you are never running as root unless you have set root up
[12:40] <funkyHat> gortba, hm. In that case you should direct your questions to #fedora ... I haven't used Fedora for years and anyway this channel is for help with Ubuntu.
[12:40] <mneptok> Bradford: pcmcia?
[12:40] <gortba> Actually, my other computer has Ubuntu on it.
[12:40] <JammasterJay> bruenig: Excellent
[12:40] <JammasterJay> Thxs
[12:40] <funkyHat> gortba, I agree with mneptok, install Ubuntu :-)
[12:40] <Bradford> mneptok, what's that?
[12:40] <nickrud> tinin, looking
[12:40] <Jowi> JammasterJay, in the terminal, if there is a # you're running as root. if there is a $ you're running as a normal user.
[12:40] <logixoul> Jowi: not sure what "time fix" you are thinking of, but I already rebooted like 5 times to no avail ;)
[12:40] <mneptok> Bradford: is it a PCMCIA card?
[12:40] <chrisjs169|brb> dyrne / Yggdrasil - using startx says connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[12:41] <gortba> hehe. Yeah--I've never had problems like this with my ubuntu system. Alright I'll go try Fedora. Thanks.
[12:41] <zlx> I just installed ubuntu but when its loading it does about 3% of the bar and freezes then says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" anyone know why?
[12:41] <Bradford> I think it's a minipci, broadcom
[12:41] <Yggdrasil> well hell
[12:41] <Bradford> Dell Inspiron E1505
[12:41] <Yggdrasil> nathan_ thats sick
[12:41] <Jowi> logixoul, "Superblock last mount time is in the future.  Fix? yes" <--- from your paste
[12:41] <Goldline> I have been looking on the wbesite but.. i couldnt find anyhting, are there screenshots of the opensuse dsitrubution? like how it looksl ike if everything is installed & ready
[12:41] <mneptok> Bradford: good luck. worst Linux support of any hardware vendor.
[12:41] <Jowi> logixoul, is your date/time correct?
[12:42] <mneptok> Bradford: me? i'd buy another card and end the frustration.
[12:42] <nickrud> tintin, gksudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/nominalinex.postrm , put a # at the start of line 41, save and remove the package
[12:42] <JammasterJay> Can anyone recommend a Do All - Multimedia player? ....i cant seem to play my mp3's with my fresh ubuntu install
[12:42] <f0rtune> xubuntu was made for pc's that have lower specs right?
[12:42] <Bradford> mneptok, Thanks, do you know of anything to read up about that? Who makes the best card?
[12:42] <crdlb> f0rtune: it has lower RAM requirements
[12:42] <f0rtune> crdlb: thanks
[12:42] <mneptok> Bradford: PCI? PCMCIA? Mini PCI? please be sure.
[12:42] <funkyHat> !restricted | JammasterJay
[12:42] <ubotu> JammasterJay: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:42] <Bradford> mneptok, MiniPCI
[12:43] <teer> anyone purchased from System76?
[12:43] <mneptok> Bradford: USA?
[12:43] <bruenig> JammasterJay, think codecs, not media players
[12:43] <Bradford> mneptok, yes
[12:43] <nickrud> tinin, and file a bug on that package where you got it :)
[12:43] <JammasterJay> ubotu: Thx
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <zlx> i cant install 7.04, but i installed 6.06 in the past so when it updates will it update to 7.04?
[12:43] <tondar> hello all
[12:43] <JammasterJay> Bruenig: Codecs...hmm...riiiiight...
[12:43] <dyrne> chrisjs169|brb: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults    should work if gdm is in /etc/init.d/ then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:43] <bruenig> zlx, you will have to upgrade to 6.10 and then again to 7.04
[12:44] <tondar> I downloaded a .dmg package (icons) and I want to open it under ubuntu, how would I go about doing it ??
[12:44] <bruenig> !upgrading | zlx
[12:44] <ubotu> zlx: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:44] <tarzeau> tondar: forget it
[12:44] <mneptok> Bradford: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106001
[12:44] <tondar> tarzeau: y?
[12:44] <tarzeau> tondar: you can't
[12:44] <tondar> tarzeau: no way
[12:44] <tondar> ?
[12:44] <tarzeau> tondar: no way
[12:44] <imperfectus> Anyone aware an issue that causes buffer read errors when reading DVD discs and not CDROM discs?
[12:44] <manolete> nas
[12:44] <Aerotwelve> Can anyone help me with a GUI problem? It isn't starting up and I cannot understand the output. Help please
[12:45] <zlx> thankx ubotu and bruenig
[12:45] <tondar> tarzeau: thanks for the quick respond :D
[12:45] <crdlb> !ubotu
[12:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:45] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: can you paste a line or two of error? no more than 2 lines
[12:45] <Aerotwelve> Sure,
[12:45] <mneptok> tondar: you can use mount, i think. .dmg is just a funky Apple re-roll of an iso image
[12:45] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: or just pastebin the whole thing
[12:45] <logixoul> Jowi: no, the time wasn't correct - it's correct in the installed Kubuntu but in the LiveCD it showed up as 4 hours earlier. Adjusted it now, but do you think this was the problem?
[12:46] <logixoul> Jowi: anyway, I'll try again now
[12:46] <tondar> mneptok: iso for a pack of icons ?
[12:46] <tondar> mneptok: what is the command ?
[12:46] <Jowi> logixoul, are you able to enter failsafe/recovery mode in ubuntu and run a fsck on that partition/disk?
[12:46] <mneptok> tondar: .dmg is just a funky Apple re-roll of an iso image
[12:46] <Aerotwelve> Well, it's on a different computer, but the end of the output says "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[12:46] <Aerotwelve> I can get more, if needed
[12:46] <tondar> mneptok: ok, what is the command that I have to issue?
[12:46] <Jowi> logixoul, yeah, if the time difference is to big you will get complaints.
[12:46] <mneptok> tondar: mount -t loop /path/to/.dmg /path/to/mount/point
[12:47] <mneptok> i think
[12:47] <tondar> mneptok: thanks
[12:47] <malv2> how do I see the boot log ?
[12:47] <imperfectus> So no one has seen this behavior with the scsi emulation?
[12:47] <malv2> what file is the boot log in?
[12:47] <logixoul> Jowi: yup, I can go into recovery mode and run fsck, but won't it be the same if I do it from the LiveCD?
[12:47] <mneptok> but there's a good chance those icons are worthless. they might be resource-forked for HFS+
[12:48] <Jowi> logixoul, I'm afraid that the live-cd might have the wrong time/timezone, so if you do it from there you will get the same error... (a guess but I think it's a valid guess)
[12:48] <Bradford> mneptok, wow that's cheap
[12:49] <logixoul> Jowi: I see, thx.
[12:49] <mneptok> Bradford: by far the path of least sesistance. the Intel 3945ABG has great support in Ubuntu.
[12:49] <chrisjs169|brb> sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults doesn't seem to work, but from what it looks like, GDM starts to load (I see a background) but the login 'window' doesn't appear
[12:49] <mneptok> *resistance
[12:49] <Aerotwelve> dyrne: Well, it's on a different computer, but the end of the output says "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Sorry, didn't realize you could PM
[12:50] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: well im not sure id do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg first and user vesa driver to get up and going.
[12:50] <logixoul> Jowi: but right now I'm trying to use Kubuntu's install tool to resize the partition (I intend to cancel it after that step, as it's already installed). That should be safe, right?
[12:50] <Jowi> logixoul, no idea. uncharted territory for me :)
[12:50] <Aerotwelve> dyrne: Alright, thanks, I'll try that
[12:51] <logixoul> okay
[12:51] <Yggdrasil> dam what do you need hardware wise to run beryl ?
[12:51] <Bradford> mneptok, thx for your help!
[12:51] <jjm> I upgraded to 7.04 and ran the ntfs configuration utility. What do I do now to be able to write to ntfs?
[12:51] <navets> does anyone know how to set up s-video on linux?
[12:51] <defendguin> is feisty fawn suppose to include an app to configure X if need be?
[12:51] <Yggdrasil> navets what video card ?
[12:51] <mobutu> when I switch user in gnome on feistry, my mouse stops working, why is that?
[12:51] <arnon> 7.04 - anyone managed to use d-link usb wlan on it?
[12:51] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to try to start x. dunno how familiar you are with linux
[12:52] <navets> Yggdrasil: onboard intel 128 mb
[12:52] <Yggdrasil> navets , sorry cant help :(
[12:52] <tinin> nickrud, it's needed to make some tricks to installl this on ubuntu, I just need to unistall it manually or with aptitude. But thanx, that must be the important file, i'll try
[12:52] <navets> Yggdrasil: thx ne way
[12:53] <nickrud> tinin, that's why aptitude won't remove it.
[12:53] <Yggdrasil> navets, there might be a man page for your intel video driver. under man pages
[12:53] <tinin> http://pastebin.ca/483882
[12:53] <tinin> nickrud
[12:53] <chrisjs169|brb> dyrne:  sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults doesn't seem to work, but from what it looks like, GDM starts to load (I see a background) but the login 'window' doesn't appear
[12:53] <_Puppy_> I've got a problem with sound capture on my ubuntu machine. Can anyone help?
[12:53] <Yggdrasil> and you basicly need to adjust your xserver xconf file
[12:54] <navets> Yggdrasil: yea last time i did that i had no graphics
[12:54] <tinin> nickrud sorry it's in spanish, but now i can see what aptitude is trying to do and i'll do it manually
[12:54] <nickrud> tinin, I understand your uncertainty
[12:54] <dyrne> chrisjs169|brb: sudo apt-get install xinit  (you should have it already) then 'xinit' you can then launch gnome-panel& and gnome-session&  to at least get a gui
[12:54] <Aerotwelve> dyrne: Okay, I ran it up until the part about color depth. The program quit with this warning: "xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070511175323. Any thoughts?
[12:54] <Yggdrasil> navets google. and thats the way to do it, jsut backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, pretty basic if you can copy a file to a different file name
[12:54] <logixoul> Jowi (and others): If I have unallocated space and *after that* a partition, then I cannot enlarge it directly, but rather I should use a low-level partition copy tool (what's the name again?), then delete the old partition and just _then_ enlarge the new partition. Is that correct?
[12:55] <d2812> JammasterJay : See PM re:codecs
[12:55] <ubuntuuser1988> Hello I want to COMPLETELY UNISTALL BERYL.. delete settings and all.. NO BERYL..
[12:55] <ubuntuuser1988> how to ?
[12:55] <tinin> nickrud laguage problems, but i speak esperanto too
[12:55] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart        now
[12:55] <Aerotwelve> Alright
[12:55] <nickrud> tinin, no spanish here, but I do read bash at about a 10th grade level. That's an easy one for me :)
[12:55] <logixoul> ubuntuuser1988: I believe you need to use Synaptic to uninstall beryl, then delete ~/.beryl to get rid of the settings
[12:56] <ubuntuuser1988> do u believe .. or are u SURE ?
[12:56] <t3hfr3ak> ok i need help setting up multiple monitora
[12:56] <funkyHat> ubuntuuser1988, first off, when you installed beryl, what method did you use to make beryl start on login?
[12:56] <logixoul> ubuntuuser1988: almost sure, but I've never used ubuntu.
[12:56] <ubuntuuser1988> just added     "beryl-manager" command to the System > Sessions
[12:56] <navets> Yggdrasil: yea im not afraid of chainging it its just i cant find a guideline to doing it with my video card
[12:56] <Jowi> ubuntuuser1988, you can try "sudo apt-get remove --purge beryl" and then "rm -r /home/user/.beryl*"
[12:56] <Aerotwelve> dyrne: Okay, my screen flashed three times, and I got the same error as before. "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly."
[12:56] <_Puppy_> Can someone help me get my mic to work with Ubuntu? I think I have a problem with sound capture and I'm pretty much lost.
[12:57] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: you tried the vesa driver?
[12:57] <funkyHat> ubuntuuser1988, ok, so firstly remove it from there. next go to synaptic, do a search for beryl, and remove all the beryl packages (you might want to click 'completely remove')
[12:57] <Aerotwelve> dyrne: Yes.
[12:57] <funkyHat> ubuntuuser1988, then as logixoul said delete .beryl (which is in your home folder)
[12:58] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: and chose some lower resolutions too? it will try the resolutions in xorg.conf file from highest to lowest
[12:58] <Yggdrasil> ok
[12:59] <ubuntuuser1988> So first: sudo apt-get remove --purge beryl    and then      "rm -r /home/user/.beryl*"
[12:59] <ubuntuuser1988> and then Synaptics
[12:59] <ubuntuuser1988> ???
[12:59] <t3hfr3ak> anybody know how to get S-VIDEO output working
[12:59] <Jowi> ubuntuuser1988, either use apt-get or synaptic. different tools to achieve the same thing.
[12:59] <Aerotwelve> dyrne: I chose all of the resolutions. It said X server would attempt to find the highest possible resolution
[01:00] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: you can 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'  and near the bottom of page change DefaultDepth  24     to 16 and the gdm restart again.
[01:00] <Aerotwelve> dyrne: No problem
[01:00] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: or keep dpkg-reconfigureing trying diff things until it works
[01:01] <`008> I recently installed Ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop, so it can work with Windows.
[01:01] <Asauce> How do I open a .cmg file in ubuntu?
[01:01] <Jowi> t3hfr3ak, usually it is as easy as connect the svideo cable and reboot. depending on your video card that is. I think nividia and ati has their own setup thing for it (I've only used generic cards for svideo)
[01:01] <`008> Unfortunately, I can't access the part of my drrive that has all my stuff.
[01:02] <funkyHat> ubuntuuser1988, don't bother with the apt-get command
[01:02] <Jowi> t3hfr3ak, in some cases you need to enable svideo in your bios, in others it is already enabled or not necessary.
[01:02] <sdfasdf2> can anyone tell my why feisty+ipw2200 refuses to play nice with wpa-psk?
[01:02] <Jowi> t3hfr3ak, for example "crt+tv" in BIOS/CMOS
[01:03] <Aerotwelve> dyrne: Hmm, looks like the same error. Any suggestions on what to change in reconfigure?
[01:03] <Jowi> t3hfr3ak, the important thing is to connect the cable *before* you start the computer
[01:03] <tinin> nickrud i think i have to remove just 34 to 38 lines here (translated) http://pastebin.ca/483895
[01:03] <imperfectus> I just want the darn DVD drive to read DVD's ;)
[01:04] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: try cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log  what does it say again near the bottom?
[01:04] <`008> Is dual booting Windows and Ubuntu supposed to hide the contents of the other's partitions?
[01:04] <t3hfr3ak> jowi: I have the cable connected and everything... i was working with Windows
[01:04] <sdfasdf2> okay i lied feisty is playing nice with everything
[01:05] <chamberlain> hi everyone, i just have a quick question about changing the volume via the cli.  I have a remote on my TV card, and i need to make it change the volume.  I can't remember the command to change the volume, + and -.  Anyone know the command I need to use?
[01:05] <nickrud> tinin, all you have to do is comment out line 41.
[01:05] <tinin> nickrud too late
[01:05] <Jowi> `008, short answer: yes. windows has no native driver for ext3 and in linux you need to mount the fat32/ntfs.
[01:05] <Jowi> !ntfs | `008
[01:05] <HostilePenguin> fstab
[01:05] <ubotu> `008: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:05] <navets> does anyone here know how to use wine?
[01:05] <dyrne> navets: ?
[01:05] <tinin> trying again nickrud
[01:05] <Aerotwelve> dyrne: The last two lines are "(II) UnloadModule: "vbe" " and "(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[01:06] <Jowi> t3hfr3ak, what video card do you have?
[01:06] <nathan_> Hey guys, had to run a away for a sec.  Anyone look at the Matrix clip from you tube I linked?
[01:06] <t3hfr3ak> jowi; NVidia GeForce 7600 GS
[01:06] <soundray> navets: wine file.exe
[01:06] <`008> bash: Thank you.
[01:06] <nathan_> Animated Matrix code wallpaper
[01:06] <HostilePenguin> is your window ubuntu dual boot and dual drive?
[01:06] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: you have an nvidia card or intel?
[01:06] <navets> dyrne: i would like to know if wine will let me take my program of windows that lets me use s-video and let me use it on linux
[01:07] <Aerotwelve> dyrne: I have an ATI. I can boot into Windows and get the exact model, if needed.
[01:07] <nickrud> tinin, the postrm isn't very nice, it shouldn't be playing around in home. The issue is that mysql isn't there, and they don't check for it first. Either they should check, or depend on mysql. Skipping the mysql restart will allow that package to be removed.
[01:07] <chamberlain> navets: you will have to use a native driver for that functionality
[01:07] <nathan_> HEre is what I mean that I'm looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYgV2GlsufI
[01:07] <nonewmsgs> are there any recomendations on brand names for an LCD?
[01:07] <nathan_> I personally like samsung monitirs
[01:07] <chamberlain> i like LG
[01:07] <navets> chamberlain: do you know if there is a way for me to use svideo through an intel graphics card
[01:08] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: lspci -v would tell you probably just pgup or down to scroll.  im not too familiar with ati cards. i only know they are sometimes problematic but vesa driver should workd
[01:08] <nathan_> Although NEC has been making qality build monitors for quite some time.  The last forever like Hondas.
[01:08] <chamberlain> navets: depending on the card, i've heard a lot of success through the i915 driver
[01:08] <chamberlain> navets: whats your card's model?
[01:08] <nonewmsgs> thanks guys
[01:08] <navets> chamberlain: ill check 1 sec
[01:08] <Znow> Can anyone help me with PartitionMagic?
[01:09] <ethereality> How do you force two windows to close when they aren't responding?
[01:09] <nathan_> Znow, why use Partiotion magic?
[01:09] <`008> Does Ubuntu 6.06 have a C/C++ compiler?
[01:09] <Znow> what else to use?
[01:09] <navets> intel 945 driver: i810
[01:09] <Znow> nathan_
[01:09] <nonewmsgs> it's a payware version of gpart.  if you pay fot it it has to be better right? :P
[01:09] <Aerotwelve> dyrne: For some reason, I'm getting system beeps when trying to scroll up, so I can't.
[01:09] <soundray> Znow: Partition Magic is closed source and not Ubuntu related. Not particularly reliable, either. Use gparted.
[01:09] <nickrud> `008, install build-essential
[01:09] <nathan_> '008: yes it does, you just have to apt-get them
[01:09] <navets> chamberlain: intel 945 driver: i810
[01:09] <Znow> soundray
[01:09] <tinin> nickrud, thax a lot, that was all, now i can  test UbuntuStudio, i've been waiting for it a year. I'm going to add their repos. Thanx
[01:10] <nickrud> `008, make, gcc, a couple other essentials for compiling
[01:10] <Znow> so I have to use gparted?
[01:10] <Jowi> t3hfr3ak, I think you use "sudo nvidia-settings" or similar for that. but I am not 100% sure since I haven't owned a nvidia card for some time...
[01:10] <Znow> where to get?
[01:10] <nickrud> tinin, good luck
[01:10] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: lol sorry shift pgup
[01:10] <soundray> Znow: it comes with ubuntu Desktop CDs
[01:10] <nathan_> Znow:  sudo apt-get intstall gparted
[01:10] <Znow> I dont got that
[01:10] <ethereality> You don't have to use gparted, but it's the simplest ...
[01:10] <Znow> where from nathan_?
[01:10] <soundray> Znow: what do you have?
[01:10] <Znow> atm
[01:10] <Znow> PartitionMagic
[01:10] <chamberlain> navets: your card is an i8110, so it should work, check out http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Dual_Monitor_Intel_i810_i915
[01:10] <nathan_> Soundray, Ubuntu 7.04 doesn't included the gparted anymore
[01:10] <Jowi> !nvidia | t3hfr3ak (maybe you can find into here)
[01:10] <ubotu> t3hfr3ak (maybe you can find into here): To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:11] <`008> What command do I enter into bash to apt-get the compiler, linker, etc.
[01:11] <`008> ?
[01:11] <dyrne> `008: build-essential
[01:11] <nonewmsgs> nathan type sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:11] <soundray> nathan_: is that true?
[01:11] <Aerotwelve> dyrne: Heh. lspci returns: "VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Raedon Mobility X1400 (prog-if 00 [VGA] )" Any use?
[01:11] <Znow> PartitionMagic
[01:11] <Jowi> `008, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:11] <nathan_> yes
[01:11] <Znow> what to use?1 I need to partition my drive...
[01:11] <Znow> I have to resize, clean it and format it
[01:11] <Znow> I got 2 partition atm
[01:11] <soundray> Znow: are you going to install ubuntu?
[01:11] <Znow> yes
[01:12] <`008> Also: Is there a good IDE for it?
[01:12] <Znow> but I need some help
[01:12] <Znow> cause Ive used the whole day
[01:12] <Znow> because I ran into troubles
[01:12] <cox37777> i;m installing ubuntu server
[01:12] <dyrne> Aerotwelve: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2420732 might help
[01:12] <soundray> Znow: there is a partitioner that's part of the installer.
[01:12] <Jowi> `008, an IDE for what exactly? compiling applications?
[01:12] <d2812> Jowi: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:12] <cox37777> i've got grub 18 error, so i've set up the following
[01:12] <chamberlain> navets: i'll try to find you a better howto
[01:12] <yurimxpxman> is there any way to automatically store the linked images inside an OpenOffice document?
[01:12] <Znow> soundray
[01:12] <funkyHat> I thought the ubuntu installer could do that for you...
[01:12] <nathan_> Znow, you can partition your drive (with out destroying windows) in the Ubuntu live CD installer
[01:12] <Aerotwelve> dyrne: I'll look into it, thanks for your help.
[01:12] <cox37777> 100mb as primary /boot
[01:12] <Znow> I dont know how to do it
[01:12] <Znow> and how much the drives shall be on
[01:12] <cox37777> 150gig as / logical
[01:13] <navets> chamberlain: thanks i really appreciate it
[01:13] <Znow> i got a 100 gb drive
[01:13] <cox37777> but when i go to create a swap there is no option for it
[01:13] <`008> Jowi: Yes, I am trying to create applications.
[01:13] <Znow> shall I split that one up in 2 or 3 parts?
[01:13] <nickrud> argh, I hate us.archive.ubuntu.com.
[01:13] <slap_me> cox
[01:13] <slap_me> nm
[01:13] <slap_me> heh
[01:13] <Znow> i got a 100 gb drive
[01:13] <nathan_> Znow, it's at your personall descretion, but if you want to see me Partiotion setup.......
[01:13] <Znow> shall I split that one up in 2 or 3 parts?
[01:13] <soundray> Znow: don't repeat please
[01:14] <Jowi> `008, create or just compile? to compile, I would say no. to build it depends on the language you use.
[01:14] <yurimxpxman> is there any way to automatically store the linked images inside an OpenOffice document?
[01:14] <Znow> well, I dont know what to do...
[01:14] <theTrav> yo, anyone know where amarok keeps its album covers on ubuntu by default?
[01:14] <HostilePenguin> figure it out
[01:14] <`008> C++
[01:14] <Znow> Ive tried to get help everywhere....
[01:14] <HostilePenguin> rread somthing
[01:14] <`008> Or C whichever is available with an IDE.
[01:14] <HostilePenguin> how to use gparted
[01:14] <funkyHat> Znow, how much space is being used up by stuff on your windows partiton at the moment?
[01:14] <`008> (To automate the compiling, linking, etc.
[01:14] <Znow> 5,7
[01:14] <`008> )
[01:15] <Znow> but its a very clean install
[01:15] <Znow> with no programs at all
[01:15] <Znow> I think
[01:15] <slicknick> any idea why kmix is not keeping/saving my change when i choose USB Logitech headset
[01:15] <nathan_> 15GB Windows (ntfs) |  application data (ntfs) | 10GBLinux root (ext3) | 25GB /home (ext3) | 2GB swap
[01:15] <funkyHat> Znow, how much space do you anticipate Windows using?
[01:15] <Jowi> Znow, ubuntu need 1. root partition (I would recommend min 6GB) 2. swap (512MB -- 1GB should be enough) 3. /home (as much as you can spare
[01:16] <logixoul> (hd0,2) == hda3 right?
[01:16] <Znow> Oo
[01:16] <Jowi> Znow, you can combine root and home but i would not recommend it in case you need to re-install/upgrade
[01:16] <funkyHat> Why complicate things with a separate /home partition?
[01:16] <nickrud> Znow, 3 partitions ..., um see Jowi
[01:16] <nathan_> But like  funkyHat said, it depends how much space Windows is using now.
[01:16] <Znow> Dont know anything. arg..... how to do it?
[01:16] <Znow> I dont know what the thingies are used for etc
[01:16] <Znow> whats root, whats swap, whats /home?
[01:16] <Znow> I got 100gb total of my HDD
[01:16] <Znow> how shall I split up?
[01:17] <funkyHat> Znow, root (/) is where everything goes that isn't in another partition
[01:17] <nathan_> funkyHat:  keeps your personal data seperate from OS so if you EVER need to reinstall Ubuntu root you can format w/o losing your pwersonal data
[01:17] <slap_me> ~2gb swap
[01:17] <soundray> Znow: like Jowi said
[01:17] <dyrne> Znow: swap is like the page file /home is like Documents and Settings root is like c:\winnt\ sort of
[01:17] <adaptr> Znow install WIntendo first, it will save much breaking of the head later on...
[01:17] <`008> Jowi: Is there an IDE that can be D/Led for Ubuntu that automates the compilation and linking?
[01:17] <funkyHat> nathan_, true :)
[01:17] <logixoul> `008: kdevelop
[01:17] <nathan_> Would be nice if Windoz had that option.  :)
[01:17] <logixoul> `008: but since you use gnome, probably anjuta
[01:17] <Znow> WIntendo? Oo
[01:18] <slyboots> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could recomend a program for a job I need to do :)
[01:18] <Znow> omg im getting confused
[01:18] <slap_me> Znow,
[01:18] <slap_me> partition it like this
[01:18] <slyboots> Indexing my DVD collection, so I am looking for some sort of.. Databasing system
[01:18] <slap_me> heh
[01:18] <_Puppy_> I'm really confused here. I can hear my new mic through my speakers but I can't use the signal in any programs. Could someone please help? Please?
[01:18] <slap_me> about 2gb for swap
[01:18] <slyboots> .. Thats free ;)
[01:18] <slap_me> rest for /
[01:18] <slap_me> = X
[01:18] <logixoul> _Puppy_: kde or gnome?
[01:18] <funkyHat> slap_me, Znow wants a windows partition too
[01:18] <_Puppy_> gnome
[01:18] <slap_me> mm
[01:18] <logixoul> can't help then
[01:18] <slap_me> yea
[01:18] <Znow> ye
[01:18] <Jowi> Znow, root is the base system. swap is used for temporary storage. home is for your user files. I have 10GB for XP (that I never even use), 6GB for root, 512MB swap and 20GB for home. then I have an extra partition in case I need for 10GB. depends on your needs.
[01:19] <_Puppy_> logixoul: thanks for trying.
[01:19] <chamberlain> navets: http://www.williambrownstreet.net/wordpress/?p=35 its a howto for a different laptop,, but it uses the same card
[01:19] <dan_> hmm _Puppy_  what do you want to do?
[01:19] <slyboots> Some sort of.. DVD cataloging program that I can customise
[01:19] <navets> chamberlain: thanks alot i really appreciate it
[01:19] <GuyFromHell> Can someone help me figure out why one version of firefox (64-bit) properly uses the middle click as non-paste while the other version i have (32-bit) does not?
[01:19] <`008> Is Anjuta free?
[01:19] <dyrne> _Puppy_: its a setting in alsamixer run it from terminal and test probably
[01:19] <Znow> I want to do it so I can boot from xp and ubuntus
[01:19] <_Puppy_> dan_: just use it for audio chats in gizmo
[01:19] <Znow> well...
[01:19] <Znow> what to install first
[01:19] <Znow> btw thanks for the support
[01:19] <slap_me> Znow,
[01:19] <logixoul> `008: yes
[01:19] <slap_me> install xp first
[01:19] <Jowi> Znow, do you have many big apps/games for win?
[01:19] <Znow> hmm
[01:19] <_Puppy_> dyrne: how would I do that?
[01:19] <Znow> yes Jowi
[01:20] <slap_me> THEN ubuntu...ubuntu will take over windows boot menu
[01:20] <nathan_> Znow, for partitioning, you can ask google for specifics.  there is a lot of helpful documentations on the Incredable edible Internet about the subject.
[01:20] <dyrne> Znow: always let linux have th last word on install so windows first
[01:20] <GuyFromHell> no one listen to the crazy man (me) ranting in the corner, thank you very much
[01:20] <Znow> wow, cs, w3:tft etc
[01:20] <slap_me> so xp...THEN ubuntu
[01:20] <Znow> but but
[01:20] <slap_me> 100gb hd
[01:20] <Jowi> Znow, so how about 30GB for win, 10GB for ubuntu root, 1GB for swap and the rest for home...?
[01:20] <chamberlain> navets: i don't know if it mentions it in the howto, but i think you also need to install the xserver-xorg-video-intel package
[01:20] <Znow> my winxp is a "recovery" cd from acer
[01:20] <Znow> ok thanks jowi!
[01:20] <HostilePenguin> lmao
[01:20] <dyrne> _Puppy_: open a terminal and type alsamixer     adjust the settings testing the mic
[01:21] <slap_me> recovery cd's ftw!!
[01:21] <DangerDaz> Hi, i need to install ubuntu again and i was just wondering, is it possible to save the current configuration i have; beryl,themes,applications,nvidia driver, so that I can restore it to the current setup when i re-install easily?
[01:21] <navets> chamberlain: awesome, i try it
[01:21] <adaptr> GuyFromHell perhaps their.. options are set differently ?
[01:21] <dyrne> _Puppy_: or search ubuntuforums.org i know others have had similar problem
[01:21] <Jowi> Znow, you can even leave 10-20GB unused you know, in case you feel you need it for win or linux later. you don't need to fill the whole harddisk at once :)
[01:21] <GuyFromHell> adaptr: meh, that's what i thought but the about:config pages showed the same thing. it was confusing but i got it
[01:21] <_Puppy_> dyrne: I've used alsamixer to adjust the mic. I can hear it but I can't record it.
[01:21] <nathan_> DangerDaz.... funkyHat:  Hence having HOME on a seperate partition.
[01:21] <`008> Are there any things that I should avoid that might cause the kernel to blow up?
[01:21] <Znow> but... I cant partitionate with recovery cd
[01:22] <nathan_> Put /Home on seperate partion and you can keep your settings seperate from / so not to lose them in re-instrall.
[01:22] <holymoo_> hi guys
[01:22] <slap_me> znow...dl a pirated parition magic
[01:22] <slap_me> heh
[01:22] <slap_me> then use that
[01:22] <dyrne> _Puppy_: when you use the mic do you get noise coming out of the speakers also? iow your voice coming out of speakers (bad thing)
[01:22] <Znow> got one?
[01:22] <verdeza> hi
[01:22] <soundray> slap_me: please don't recommend warez here
[01:22] <Jowi> `008, yeah, don't recompile the kernel unless you know what you're doing
[01:22] <zBoy> #ubuntu-se
[01:22] <GrueTamer> `008: uh...well, there are a lot of things you can do, but i dont think youll really do them
[01:22] <holymoo_> i keep on getting the  cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found! error in my cups logs.  i have a feeling that is preventing me from printing and it has something to do with permissions
[01:22] <chamberlain> navets: in case you screw up your xorg configuration and are stuck in command line, press ALT+F1, and then type in "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf_BAK /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:22] <holymoo_> would anyone offhand have a clue how to fix that? i'm googling zilch on it
[01:23] <soundray> Znow: all you need is on the ubuntu install cd
[01:23] <slap_me> isnt there a burnable gparted?
[01:23] <slap_me> that he can just dl standalone?
[01:23] <GrueTamer> slap_me, yeah, there is
[01:23] <`008> For example, someone told me that dereferencing NULL can cause a KP.
[01:23] <Znow> where?
[01:23] <Znow> <3
[01:23] <dyrne> holymoo_: is this the original user you made or a new user on the system?
[01:23] <_Puppy_> dyrne: I hear pretty well out of the speakers. Not crackling or static or anything like that. I just can't use the sound in any programs.
[01:23] <Znow> grueTamer, where?!
[01:23] <slap_me> yea...znow...just dl gparted...then burn that...its a partition manager
[01:23] <holymoo_> original, i will try new
[01:23] <GrueTamer> Znow, just a minute
[01:23] <Znow> well...
[01:23] <dyrne> _Puppy_: oh
[01:23] <slap_me> google.com
[01:23] <knoeki> in which path is firefox located?
[01:23] <Znow> dont got anymore disc's ^^
[01:23] <soundray> holymoo_: that message is a side effect of other errors in most cases
[01:23] <Znow> used em all today
[01:23] <slap_me> go buy some
[01:24] <Znow> stores closed :/
[01:24] <slap_me> a true computer user has cd-r's galore
[01:24] <Znow> but can't I use it now
[01:24] <slap_me> heh
[01:24] <Znow> ?
[01:24] <chamberlain> back to my question, does anyone know how to turn the volume up and down via the command line?
[01:24] <GrueTamer> Znow, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:24] <holymoo_> soundray ah really?
[01:24] <navets> chamberlain: yes i figured that out when i messed it up yesterday :)
[01:24] <holymoo_> *hmm*
[01:24] <dyrne> holymoo_: nah i just wanted to see if you were a member of group original user should be
[01:24] <Znow> thans grue
[01:24] <GrueTamer> chamberlain, run alsamixer
[01:24] <nathan_> just remember that gparted is not on the Ubuntu fiesty 7.04 live CD.  you have to use 6.10 or earlier
[01:24] <chamberlain> navets: well done, i've done it numerous times
[01:24] <Jowi> `008, all the files in /dev you shouldn't play with. but that's common sense (I hope)
[01:24] <`008> It is.
[01:24] <Znow> thanks*
[01:24] <holymoo_> what gouprs should users be in for printers, just lpadmin right?
[01:24] <`008> I don't screw with those.
[01:24] <Znow> But Grue?
[01:25] <GrueTamer> `008, dont compile a kernel that you set up wrong
[01:25] <Znow> Cant I just run it now
[01:25] <Znow> and manage the partitions?
[01:25] <chamberlain> gruetamer: i know that, but i need to be able to turn the volume up and down via my remote
[01:25] <GrueTamer> Znow, if youre on the livecd, you can just use apt to get gparted
[01:25] <`008> Now, to answer my NULL deref question...
[01:25] <soundray> holymoo_: yes
[01:25] <GrueTamer> if it is indeed not there
[01:25] <Znow> what do you mean?
[01:25] <navets> chamberlain: i need a list of unix commands to hang above my head for when i mess up stuff lol
[01:25] <GrueTamer> because i thought it was, just not as a part of the installer
[01:25] <nathan_> GrueTamer is true.  you can apt-get gparted from live Cd
[01:25] <Jowi> Znow, boot into the ubuntu live cd and use gparted. it is quite similar to pqmagic.
[01:26] <chamberlain> navets: ?? i cant tell if that was a joke :P
[01:26] <Znow> Jowi ok
[01:26] <mdeias> #Ubuntu-ar
[01:26] <slap_me> znow...use your ubuntu cd...restart computer...load up terminal type in 'sudo apt-get gparted'
[01:26] <lastkey> Hi
[01:26] <slap_me> then yer golden
[01:26] <lastkey> Need help
[01:26] <soundray> slap_me: you forgot "install"
[01:26] <slap_me> oh yea
[01:26] <archville> Hi.
[01:26] <holymoo_> man cups problems are the hardest to diagnose
[01:26] <chamberlain> lastkey: try to be more specific to get people attention
[01:26] <slap_me> sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:26] <nathan_> apt-get install gparted
[01:26] <lastkey> I want to permanently alias ls=ls -lrt
[01:27] <holymoo_> okay just a stab in the dark, anyone have a canon ip1500 type of printer or something in that range? just curious if you got it working
[01:27] <soundray> holymoo_: pastebin your error_log if you want me to have a look
[01:27] <mneptok> lastkey: your shell environment is where that happens
[01:27] <nathan_> yes, sudo is important. :)
[01:27] <lastkey> but as soon as i close the terminal window this aliasing ends
[01:27] <slap_me> then it will install...then run it...its a partition manager...running from cd-rom...not hd...so you can manager right there
[01:27] <`008> I have a question that involves a multiline source code.
[01:27] <chamberlain> holymoo: i have a pixma ip2000
[01:27] <soundray> holymoo_: there was a guy here the other day
[01:27] <Znow> slap_me.... ehm terminal type? Oo
[01:27] <`008> Anyone thinks they can answer, please PM.
[01:27] <Znow> wth is that?
[01:27] <lastkey> then how to do it
[01:27] <soundray> holymoo_: he got it to work with the ip2200 instructions on the wiki
[01:27] <holymoo_> chamberlain really? you just added it and it works? what version of ubuntu?
[01:27] <Jaboia> 008 what language is it in?
[01:27] <chamberlain> lastkey: you can set it to start in system>preferences>session
[01:27] <nathan_> Terminal is Linux's "command prompt"
[01:27] <sdf> how can i unzip files with  .rar  in ubuntu??
[01:28] <holymoo_> soundray ah really? someone else with a similar prob?
[01:28] <slap_me> no, in your terminal, type "
[01:28] <`008> C or C++
[01:28] <jrib> !rar >  (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:28] <chamberlain> holymoo: i use feisty, but it also worked in edgy
[01:28] <`008> I forget which.
[01:28] <holymoo_> soundray oh!
[01:28] <mneptok> lastkey: what shell do you use?
[01:28] <Jaboia> if you PM me i'll take a quick look, may not be able to help though
[01:28] <d2812> lastkey add 'alias ls=ls -lrt' in ~/.bashrc
[01:28] <lastkey> ok
[01:28] <holymoo_> soundray thx for the tip
[01:28] <chamberlain> holymoo: i had to add it as a printer, but the provided driver worked
[01:28] <holymoo_> lemme look
[01:28] <soundray> holymoo_: a guy with an ip1300 who used the Canon driver in the end
[01:28] <Znow> slap_me, how? maybe im slow and retarded 2am at the night but ^^
[01:28] <archville> sdf, install "unrar" package, then use: rar -x -r file.rar
[01:28] <lastkey> it's bash. But please do tell me how to know the shell from terminal
[01:28] <mneptok> d2812: you'll need quotes
[01:28] <lastkey> i mean by which command we can know it
[01:29] <sdf> archville thank you
[01:29] <d2812> mneptok : damn it, I was even reading from my bashrc as well
[01:29] <Znow> slap_me, how? maybe im slow and retarded 2am at the night but ^^
[01:29] <holymoo_> soundray, canon driver? i didn't see any linux packages on their site
[01:29] <nathan_> welcome ame, cein, rever, dick.
[01:29] <d2812> lastkey: add "alias ls='ls -lrt'" in ~/.bashrc
[01:29] <GrueTamer> Znow, what do you exactly want to do?
[01:29] <cein> hi nathan_
[01:29] <archville> sdf by the way i don't exactly remember if the command is "rar -x -r file.rar" or "rar x -r file.rar" but you get the point
[01:29] <nathan_> welcom bolo
[01:29] <rever75> Does anyone know how to set up gnome to play a sound when emptying the Trash ?
[01:30] <Znow> GrueTamer, I want to partitionate my HDD
[01:30] <mneptok> lastkey: echo alias ls=\'ls\ \-lrt\' >> ~/.bashrc
[01:30] <soundray> holymoo_: they are a bit hidden. You can find them when you look up your printer in the database on http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
[01:30] <GrueTamer> Znow...how exactly
[01:30] <rever75> I know it is totally useless but was just wondering
[01:30] <Znow> into 4 pieces
[01:30] <Znow> as jowi said earlier
[01:30] <GrueTamer> go on...
[01:30] <nathan_> <--- away
[01:30] <sdf> ok
[01:30] <slap_me> znow...do you have xp installed already?
[01:30] <dick-richardson> I have an intel wifi chip (ip2200), using feisty, and connecting to my network via wpa_supplicant. My connection keeps dropping, but only on this machine...any ideas?
[01:30] <Znow> Win: 30gb - Ubuntu: 10gb - Swap: 1gb - Home: Rest
[01:30] <Znow> yes...
[01:30] <GrueTamer> got it
[01:30] <Znow> but its a bad version
[01:31] <lastkey> it was there but commented, I uncommented but it is saying 'll' not found
[01:31] <Znow> cause
[01:31] <Znow> My comp chrashed while it installed
[01:31] <cein> use GPARTED
[01:31] <slap_me> you need to install xp before all else...
[01:31] <slap_me> heh
[01:31] <Znow> yes
[01:31] <GrueTamer> well then get rid of it or reinstall it
[01:31] <slap_me> cuz the recovery cd's will erase EVERYTHING
[01:31] <GrueTamer> getting rid of it is my favorite
[01:31] <GrueTamer> ;)
[01:31] <Znow> ^
[01:31] <Znow> ^^
[01:31] <Znow> ok ill try ;)
[01:31] <slap_me> GrueTamer, i totally would be ubuntu only...but my lady doesnt like it
[01:31] <slap_me> heh
[01:31] <slap_me> so i have to dual-boot
[01:31] <Znow> cya tomorrow, later tonight or something ^^
[01:32] <GrueTamer> slap_me, i had to dual boot because my roomie hates linux, but now that he got his own machine...its gone!
[01:32] <nathan_> slap_me.  I only dualboot to keep gaming easier.  :)
[01:32] <Bidash> can i access my xp ntfs drive from ubuntu? as in copy files from it over to the ubuntu partition(hdfile)?
[01:32] <d2812> lastkey: you may need to close the terminal window, before it takes effect for the first time.
[01:32] <jshriver> Hi, does anyone know how to author DVDs under Linux?
[01:32] <Greyhound> so first it's better to install ubuntu and then xp, if you want dual-boot ?
[01:32] <slap_me> she's like 'what did you do to the computer?!
[01:32] <nathan_> I would go console, but I just can't will myself to use a controller for FPS.
[01:32] <jshriver> using dvdauthor and mencoder? or ffmpeg?
[01:32] <soundray> Bidash: yes. Check out the private message from ubotu
[01:32] <dick-richardson> I have an intel wifi chip (ip2200), using feisty, and connecting to my network via wpa_supplicant. My connection keeps dropping, but only on this machine...any ideas?
[01:32] <soundray> !ntfs > Bidash
[01:32] <GrueTamer> Greyhound, other way around
[01:32] <lastkey> thanx d2812
[01:32] <Greyhound> k :)
[01:33] <lastkey> I got it. Can you tell me the command to know the shell am using
[01:33] <GrueTamer> my roomie likes his vista machines...too bad its slow
[01:33] <funkyHat> Greyhound, windows first... Ubuntu can handle setting up dual boot, windows is stupid and will just break stuff :)
[01:33] <Greyhound> I have a "good" copy of XP installed so I'm all set for an ubuntu install :D
[01:33] <Bidash> thnx! hope ull undersatnd it tho..
[01:33] <Bidash> i'll i mean
[01:33] <icebreeze> i'm currently switching from gentoo to ubuntu.  I have  files i need to back up but no place to put them.  It is possible to just delete the old file system and keep my files on the hard drive and not have to reformat it when installing ubuntu ?
[01:33] <cein> there must be _some_ way to keep win from messing it up
[01:33] <dick-richardson> icebreeze: yep
[01:33] <GrueTamer> icebreeze, uh...
[01:33] <soundray> Bidash: if not, you can always come back and ask more specifically
[01:33] <nathan_> Greyhoud, correction.  windows like taking over... then breaking stuff.
[01:33] <GrueTamer> i think so
[01:33] <barbarella_me> Bidash:yes you can, but don't
[01:34] <cein> but yeah... the safe way to go is install win first
[01:34] <dick-richardson> if it's on a separate partition from /
[01:34] <GrueTamer> icebreeze, see what happens :)
[01:34] <d2812> lastkey: thank mneptok - with out the quotes you'd of been screwed :) I'm afraid I dont know how to find out what shell you are in. Sorry.
[01:34] <icebreeze> dick-richardson: well how would i do that since i set the partition to root and it says it must be formatted anyway
[01:34] <GrueTamer> oh, well...
[01:34] <Greyhound> but why would it mess with the partition you install ubuntu on ?
[01:34] <GrueTamer> nevermind, maybe you cant
[01:34] <nickrud> icebreeze, you can't put them on a cd or thumbdrive?
[01:34] <dick-richardson> everything's in / ?
[01:34] <dick-richardson> you don't have a separate /home partition?
[01:35] <barbarella_me> Greyhound:hmm, that will not say that all will go perfect!
[01:35] <icebreeze> nickrud: its over 20 gigs of information.
[01:35] <chamberlain> icebreeze: email!
[01:35] <dick-richardson> then yeah, you should really back up
[01:35] <nickrud> icebreeze, borrow someones usb harddrive
[01:35] <pushpop`> by default what module extensionfor mysql do you have to enable in your php.ini file?
[01:35] <jshriver> Anyone know how to transcode a video file into mpeg2/vob and authoring a DVD? Trying to convert some home videos into DVD so I can send them to my family back home.
[01:35] <dick-richardson> got a dvd burner?
[01:35] <nathan_> Seriously, the guys at Conocial should have Ubuntu by default make a /home partition.
[01:35] <jshriver> dick-richardson: yeah
[01:36] <chamberlain> nathan_: its being discussed for gutsy
[01:36] <dick-richardson> jshriver: i was talking to icebreeze, sorry
[01:36] <jshriver> tis ok :)
[01:36] <icebreeze> no i don't have a /home.   when i had gentoo i had 3 partitions.  A boot, main(i guess root), and a swap.
[01:36] <lastkey> Can anybody tell me any software to view MS Power point presentation, other than Open Office
[01:36] <joey3> I just updated from dapper to feisty, and updated my kernel. now all my gnome letters are just squares, but the letters in terminals are still fine. some font problem. anyone familar with this?:
[01:36] <nathan_> jshriver.  Y0u can just encode mpg2 straight to DVD.  most DVD players have native suppoert for mpeg2 since that's what vob is based on.
[01:36] <holymoo_> well if anyone is interested ... http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/#canon
[01:36] <barbarella_me> dick-richardson:mencoder would be a good start
[01:36] <holymoo_> thats how you install those drivers
[01:36] <icebreeze> I don't care if the swap or boot partitions get whiped but i don't want to lose what is on the main partition
[01:36] <holymoo_> except we run dapper not edgy ... damn
[01:36] <hagabaka> i hate it that when people are comparing windows and ubuntu nowadays, the only advantage they seem to focus on is that you don't need to "install" extra software to get extra software
[01:37] <dick-richardson> icebreeze: do you have a dvd burner?
[01:37] <soundray> lastkey: there isn't a good alternative. What's the problem with OOo Impress?
[01:37] <jshriver> nathan_: huh? hehe... So I can just make a VIDEO_IFO or whatever directory and put a movie.mpg in there?
[01:37] <icebreeze> dick-richardson: yes but i really don't want to do that... 20+ gigs isn't fun to burn..
[01:37] <jshriver> I dont need menus or anything fancy, just viewable
[01:37] <lastkey> soundray: it crashes after I close presentation or doesn't show Slide Show at all
[01:37] <icebreeze> dick-richardson: and actually i don't have a dvd burner on the linux computer just my laptop so its just a moot point
[01:37] <dick-richardson> icebreeze: I agree, but it really is your best option.
[01:37] <nathan_> hagabaka.  I totally agree with you.  Like it's really that hard to get software.  people don't seem to have a problem D/Ling anything else on the internet.
[01:38] <icebreeze> dick-richardson: there isn't a baselayout i could get like in gentoo?
[01:38] <hagabaka> yeah
[01:38] <holymoo_> thx later
[01:38] <nickrud> icebreeze, you could get a crossover cable and transfer the files to the laptop then
[01:38] <C0stigan> hehhhh
[01:38] <dick-richardson> icebreeze: not really. you REALLY want to back up
[01:38] <C0stigan> can anyone here
[01:38] <C0stigan> help me?
[01:38] <C0stigan> O.o
[01:38] <maynards-girl> any ointers before I upgrade to fiesty this weekend?
[01:38] <barbarella_me> lastkey:yes you can, there is a viewer, but you have to run it wine. Mayebe other people know a better solution
[01:38] <soundray> lastkey: have a look at ppthtml, that's one I haven't tried
[01:38] <nathan_> jshriver: in a word, yes.  infact you don't even need that.  My $20 USD DVD player at home can run MPG2 and MP3 files fine on a data CD.
[01:39] <AceMan> anyone know how to convert a chm file to pdf?
[01:39] <jordo23> For some reason....all of a sudden, my second hard drive (sdb1) won't let me write to it.....any ideas?
[01:39] <soundray> lastkey: you might also want to have a look at the OOo memory settings.
[01:39] <icebreeze> dick-richardson: sigh... thought i loath compiling. i do miss the flexibility of a gentoo install...
[01:39] <lastkey> soundray: where i can find memory settings
[01:39] <cein> maynards-girl: keep an eye on your fstab
[01:39] <dick-richardson> icebreeze: the install is about all you'll miss ;)
[01:39] <cein> jordo23: what's the error?
[01:40] <cein> what's its FS?
[01:40] <dopefish> hey yalls - when I try to save the port range in bittornado to 10000-10010, it never saves
[01:40] <C0stigan> isolinux: Disk error 80, AX=0201, drive 00 <----anyone know what that means?
[01:40] <jordo23> cein: No error.....just can't create folders and stuff....no option when right-click....
[01:40] <dick-richardson> ok, that was a little 'drink the kool-aid'ish
[01:40] <cein> oh?
[01:40] <cein> can you write from the command line
[01:40] <icebreeze> dick-richardson: i personally love gentoo.  just as a busy college student i don't want to maintain it right now
[01:40] <jordo23> cein: it's also listed in /etc/fstab,...
[01:40] <cein> ?
[01:40] <soundray> lastkey: Tools-Options-OpenOffice.org-Memory
[01:40] <maynards-girl> cein, planned on backing my main stuff up just in case. better to do a fresh install than upgrade?
[01:40] <nathan_> Are ther any heavy hitter Ubuntu users in here with a resolution issue after installing nVidia drivers>?
[01:40] <lastkey> soundray: I got it man
[01:40] <cein> no, upgrade works just fine
[01:40] <jordo23> cein: It was fine yesterday.....all of a sudden...
[01:41] <cein> i didn't lose any data, just that some of my secondary partitions didn't mount automatically after upgrade
[01:41] <cein> but you might not have the same problem
[01:41] <cein> all in all a smooth upgrade
[01:41] <slap_me> mm
[01:41] <dick-richardson> icebreeze: i hear ya. I think you'll like ubuntu - maybe not as much as you do gentoo, but it'll get you by
[01:41] <soundray> !fixres > nathan_, read ubotu's private message please
[01:41] <Greyhound> what file system does ubuntu use ? ext3 ?
[01:41] <dick-richardson> Greyhound: by default, yes
[01:41] <soundray> Greyhound: by default, yes
[01:41] <slap_me> what is important to install in ubuntu when you get it? so at some point you wont have a 'crap i have to install this' moment?
[01:42] <cein> jordo23 can you create files at the CL?
[01:42] <nathan_> welcom Unreal_.    nice nick
[01:42] <slap_me> i already got my mp3/sound and video codecs...
[01:42] <Greyhound> aha...
[01:42] <dopefish> repeating message: when I try to save the port range in bittornado to 10000-10010, it never saves. Why? 1
[01:42] <slap_me> what else is necessary?
[01:42] <barbarella_me> C0stigan:usb drive?
[01:42] <HostilePenguin> i was suprised i wasent asked what file system
[01:42] <nathan_> soundray, is that what that is?  never used xchat before. :)
[01:42] <icebreeze> dick-richardson: for sure... i just totally see no point i backing to back all this up...  just because of a root fs
[01:42] <lastkey> I tried it. But after closing presentation it said OOO crashed.
[01:42] <HostilePenguin> i use reiserfs on my debian and elive install
[01:42] <navets> chamberlain: hey I kind of got it working but am having some probelms and was hoping you could help
[01:42] <C0stigan> er
[01:42] <chamberlain> navets: i'll try
[01:42] <gglser> anyone know how you can play NTSC DVD avi ?
[01:42] <dick-richardson> icebreeze: backups are a good idea anyway ;)
[01:42] <AceMan> anyone know how to convert a chm file to pdf?
[01:43] <gglser> at least thats what the stream is
[01:43] <cein> how is reiserfs?
[01:43] <soundray> lastkey: perhaps the ppt is faulty, or an old Powerpoint version?
[01:43] <icebreeze> dick-richardson: if i click guided on how to partition.  will it automatically erase my drive when i click forward.?
[01:43] <dick-richardson> cein: it's good
[01:43] <HostilePenguin> havent lost power yet
[01:43] <jordo23> cein: Nope...says permission denied.....how could this suddenly become changed and what should I do?
[01:43] <dick-richardson> you can choose not to format...
[01:43] <barbarella_me> gglser:yes
[01:43] <soundray> cein: not worth the deviation from the standard in my opinion
[01:43] <navets> chamberlain: awesome, ok so heres the deal, I am using it to set up to my T.V. It works but it only shows some of the screen because of the resolution. do you know how I can get it to show the whole sceen?
[01:43] <C0stigan> barbarella_me, i burnt ubuntu to a disk and tried to get it to load it gives me the ubuntu logo but when i click to install it gives me that message, sayingt he boot failed.
[01:43] <lastkey> hmm I don't think so. It's Office 2003 format presentation
[01:43] <cein> well journaling sounds useful
[01:44] <dick-richardson> but before I'd do it, I'd personally want to have a backup
[01:44] <gglser> barbarella_me: what should I do? VLC wont open it
[01:44] <soundray> lastkey: that's right, those should work. Does it contain video clips?
[01:44] <mneptok> cein: ext3 has journalling
[01:44] <cein> jordo23: checked the file permissions? are you root? what's the filesystem?
[01:44] <cein> oh..
[01:44] <aj_> anyone have problems with ut2004 and ati cards?
[01:44] <chamberlain> navets: in your xorg.conf file, there should be a setting of the preferred resolution, cant remember where, but it should be in there somewhere
[01:44] <AceMan> anyone?
[01:44] <jordo23> cein: logged in as normal user, jordo23,
[01:44] <chamberlain> navets: is the resolution too high or too low?
[01:44] <dick-richardson> icebreeze: it should give you a checkbox next to the partitions it's going to format
[01:44] <mneptok> AceMan: why convert?
[01:44] <lastkey> soundray: problem is with every presentation, which i open
[01:45] <navets> chamberlain: low it only shows about half of whats on my monitor
[01:45] <barbarella_me> C0stigan:what is your drive architecture?
[01:45] <AceMan> mneptok: cos i can read the chm in ubuntu but not windows
[01:45] <dick-richardson> uncheck the root partition and it SHOULD just write what it needs over your current install...
[01:45] <nathan_> soundray: I all ready tried those fixes.  none of them worked.  Also I'm running the Ubuntu 7.04 which this article does not directly cover.
[01:45] <mneptok> AceMan: the Widows Help Viewer opens .chm
[01:45] <mneptok> *Windows
[01:45] <dick-richardson> but my ex-girlfriend SHOULD have been faithful, too...
[01:45] <soundray> lastkey: in that case, I would exit OOo, do a 'mv ~/.openoffice.org2 /openoffice.org2-backup' and try again
[01:45] <AceMan> mneptok: it doesn't seem to like this particular chm file tho :(
[01:46] <barbarella_me> gglser:and mplayer?...don't think so!
[01:46] <soundray> nathan_: what resolution do you need?
[01:46] <C0stigan> O.o DVD/CDrw drive then an empty bay, followed by the hard disk bay, floppy diskbay and another empty bay.
[01:46] <mneptok> AceMan: print to a .ps psotscript file in Ubuntu
[01:46] <nathan_> I can mes with the xorg.conf file all I want till my fingers fall off, for whatever reason after install of nvidia driver all goes to 800x600 and does not change.
[01:46] <slyboots> Anyone happen to know what Ubuntu sets as the default password for root on mysql?
[01:46] <nickrud> icebreeze, maybe if you deleted every directory but /home first, it's an interesting experiment
[01:46] <chamberlain> navets: i'm just looking up the setting for tv-out, just a second
[01:46] <dick-richardson> another thought...when booted into the ubuntu live cd - move everything to a sub-directory under root
[01:46] <AceMan> mneptok: fantastic, didn't think of that. thanks!!    :)
[01:46] <dick-richardson> /backup, for example
[01:46] <leetwanker> anyone here run linuxmce?
[01:46] <soundray> nathan_: then your monitor isn't set up properly.
[01:47] <dick-richardson> the move should take seconds
[01:47] <navets> chamberlain: ok thanks
[01:47] <nathan_> soundray: I would love to do native resolution of 1280x1024, but 1024x768 will do nicely also.
[01:47] <cein> is the journal data journaled ? ;-)
[01:47] <icebreeze> nickrud: i will see
[01:47] <mneptok> cein: causality loop
[01:47] <soundray> nathan_: TFT or CRT?
[01:47] <nathan_> TFT
[01:47] <icebreeze> nickrud: actually thats what i did... i just have folder called backup
[01:47] <nickrud> icebreeze, and the idea of moving to a /backup
[01:47] <nickrud> eh :)
[01:48] <barbarella_me> slyboots:it doesn't, i think. but you can run mysql -u root, and change the password.
[01:48] <dick-richardson> nickrud: not a bad idea, eh :D
[01:48] <nickrud> I still say, steal someone's usb hard drive
[01:48] <icebreeze> nickrud: lol
[01:48] <dick-richardson> nickrud: yep
[01:48] <leetwanker> anyone run LinuxMCE?
[01:48] <navets> chamberlain: also i dunno if this will help but my monitor on my laptop is a widescreen and my tv is not
[01:48] <AceMan> lol
[01:48] <jlulian38> Is there any resonably easy way to make my laptop act as a router?
[01:48] <nathan_> leetwanker: I haven't yet but I like the demo video.  I may try it sometime,.
[01:48] <soundray> nathan_: set HorizSync to 30-65 and VertRefresh to 50-75, that should fix it for you
[01:48] <icebreeze> nickrud: well thats wonderful i can't even browse samba with this live cd...
[01:49] <slyboots> Yea, I got in Thanks :)
[01:49] <chamberlain> navets: the two SHOULD have the different resolutions.  Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456 because it has a lot of the settings you'll need for tv-out
[01:49] <leetwanker> i'm just wondering if it will set up my tv output or if i'll have to configure it in my xorg.conf
[01:49] <jlulian38> I've got a wifi card and a ethernet, but I have a mac with no internet right next to me I don't want to buy stuff for
[01:49] <soundray> lastkey: was I making sense?
[01:49] <nickrud> icebreeze, neither can I. Someday I'll hook into a windows network :)
[01:49] <navets> chamberlain: ok cool thanks
[01:49] <lastkey> soundray: I tried your method but no luck
[01:50] <dick-richardson> nickrud: with a vista machine, a linux machine, and os x - it didn't take long to like samba
[01:50] <soundray> lastkey: sorry I couldn't help
[01:50] <barbarella_me> slyboots:GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO root@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'password' WITH GRANT OPTION;
[01:50] <lastkey> soundray: thank you for trying :)
[01:50] <leetwanker> i've never had luck getting my tv output working right in xorg.conf
[01:50] <soundray> jlulian38: you can setup internet connection sharing with firestarter
[01:50] <nickrud> dick-richardson, I could understand that, for sure
[01:50] <jlulian38> firestarte >.>
[01:50] <jlulian38> starter*
[01:51] <nickrud> ah well, work is done. See you all around next week
[01:51] <leetwanker> it'd be nice if nvtv worked
[01:51] <Endlessguitar> Hello people
[01:51] <slyboots> o.o
[01:51] <dotpavan> hi, I couldnt find any info on tomcat 6 installation for feisty, did anyone try this? if yes, any linky help plz?
[01:51] <nathan_> soundray: Okay going to start X now. BRB.
[01:51] <Endlessguitar> are some1 good at linux ubuntu feisty fawn?
[01:51] <chamberlain> endlessguitar: ???
[01:52] <soundray> Endlessguitar: just ask your question and find out
[01:52] <dick-richardson> sounds like a gam
[01:52] <dick-richardson> game*
[01:52] <Endlessguitar> I should need help to install my graphic card nvidia geforce 7600
[01:52] <navets> chamberlain: hey sorry about this but you dont happen to have that last guide you gave me to configure the svideo. When i restarted x-server it didnt come back up
[01:52] <usser> the end guy is hard
[01:52] <Endlessguitar> I have restalled the linux 3 times cause when Ive done the settings have it fucked up
[01:52] <dick-richardson> system --> administrator --> restricted drivers
[01:52] <chamberlain> navets: you need the link again?
[01:52] <nathan_> Nope, still stuck on 800x600@50hz
[01:52] <dotpavan> !tomcat
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <soundray> dotpavan: does tomcat6 have features that you need? If not, I would strongly recommend sticking with the packaged version
[01:53] <dick-richardson> er...system --> administration --> restricted drivers
[01:53] <soundray> !language | Endlessguitar
[01:53] <ubotu> Endlessguitar: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:53] <Endlessguitar> sorry
[01:53] <nathan_> I might just have to revert back to 6.10 for this machine (intended purpose is setup as kiosk)
[01:53] <Endlessguitar> know some1?
[01:53] <dick-richardson> yeah, I graduated from a catholic school. I'm not familiar with this adult language ;)
[01:53] <tritium> Endlessguitar: we need to keep the channel family/work friendly, please
[01:53] <Endlessguitar> I see sorry
[01:53] <Endlessguitar> I said
[01:54] <dotpavan> soundray: I am just starting, hence any ver should be okay.. would the 5.5 repo version have default configured? I had probs configuring the xml files
[01:54] <slyboots> Hm is there a way to verbose a package install?
[01:54] <dick-richardson> Endlessguitar: yes. system --> administration --> restricted drivers
[01:54] <slyboots> So I can see what exactly it is that it is doing?
[01:54] <Endlessguitar> but it sais
[01:54] <Endlessguitar> says"
[01:54] <Endlessguitar> Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers.
[01:54] <navets> chamberlain: yea the one to the guild for the thinkpad. It didnt reload when I restarted x-server and i thought it would
[01:54] <nathan_> slyboots: use the -v command
[01:54] <nathan_> ??
[01:54] <soundray> dotpavan: I don't understand your question
[01:54] <chamberlain> http://www.williambrownstreet.net/wordpress/?p=35
[01:55] <soundray> Endlessguitar: so why aren't you happy ;)
[01:55] <navets> chamberlain: thanks
[01:55] <slyboots> That.. didnt realy do anything
[01:55] <slyboots> It .. looks like a version infomation for apt-get o.o
[01:55] <dotpavan> soundray: I was wondering : would it work like apache without any need for manual tweaking of config files?
[01:55] <Endlessguitar> cause
[01:55] <Endlessguitar> in windows xp have I resolution 1440 x 900 and in linux have I just 1280x800
[01:55] <Endlessguitar> :S
[01:55] <C0stigan> barbarella_me,  DVD/CDrw drive then an empty bay, followed by the hard disk bay, floppy diskbay and another empty bay.
[01:55] <spinull> when i try to connect to my ubuntu shares from windows it asks me for a password
[01:56] <thepumpkin1979> i'm trying to sync with my WM5 Device but when the pocket user is authenticated, it disconnects:S
[01:56] <icebreeze> dick-richardson: well i can't see how i'm going to back this up now.  Samba isn't working on the live cd.  I don't have a dvd burner in the linux comp.  Nor do i have a external hard drive.  Are you sure there is no base install i could od>
[01:56] <soundray> slyboots: you can get a package listing with dpkg --contents package.deb
[01:56] <nathan_> Endlessguitar:  A simple edit of your xorg.conf should fix that.
[01:56] <slyboots> I think the script might be busted
[01:56] <dotpavan> spinull: smbpasswd?
[01:56] <slyboots> When I try to install it, I get this :
[01:56] <slyboots> Setting up mediamate (0.9.3.6-4.2ubuntu1) ...
[01:56] <slyboots> [: 33: ==: unexpected operator
[01:56] <thepumpkin1979> im using synce, but is just disconnects!
[01:56] <dick-richardson> icebreeze: move everything to a new directory under / ... /backup for example
[01:56] <Endlessguitar> can you help me please please nathan_?
[01:56] <soundray> slyboots: to see what the setup procedure does, look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.postinst
[01:56] <spinull> dotpaven, i tried that but it says it can't connect to change my password
[01:56] <Endlessguitar> how I do it please :)
[01:56] <nathan_> sure.  I'll do it the noob way for you.
[01:57] <Endlessguitar> I am really newbie at linux Im just used it in around 2 days
[01:57] <nathan_> I'll make channel....
[01:57] <Endlessguitar> okej:)
[01:57] <gnome-orochi`> hello..
[01:57] <Endlessguitar> hello.
[01:57] <icebreeze> dick-richardson: even if i do that it will erase that directory when it reformats the drive...
[01:57] <chamberlain> again, does anyone know the command to turn the volume up and down via command line?
[01:57] <gnome-orochi`> can anyone tell me how to use kiba dock?
[01:57] <usser> spinull: do sudo smbpasswd -a yourusername
[01:57] <Endlessguitar> hmm
[01:57] <spinull> k
[01:57] <dick-richardson> icebreeze: yeah, don't reformat
[01:58] <barbarella_me> C0stigan:do you install ubuntu from a cd?
[01:58] <icebreeze> dick-richardson: it won't let me continue unless i choose reformat.
[01:58] <Endlessguitar> nathan_?
[01:58] <C0stigan> it wont install
[01:58] <Endlessguitar> how it going?
[01:58] <C0stigan> it gives that disk error
[01:58] <soundray> Endlessguitar: have some patience please
[01:58] <nathan_> Endless guitar:  type "/join #endlessguitar" in chat box
[01:58] <Endlessguitar> hmm
[01:58] <barbarella_me> chamberlain:mount /dev/??? umount /dev/???
[01:59] <gnome-orochi`> Endlessguitar: do you know how to install kiba-dock?
[01:59] <dick-richardson> icebreeze: ...I'm stumped then
[01:59] <barbarella_me> chamberlain:or umount /mount/point
[01:59] <chamberlain> barbarella_me: i dont need to mount or unmount drives...?
[02:00] <barbarella_me> chamberlain:you asked "again, does anyone know the command to turn the volume up and down via command line?"
[02:00] <chamberlain> barbarella_me: yes, the sound (volume) up and down
[02:00] <spinull> that got er done
[02:00] <spinull> thanks usser
[02:00] <barbarella_me> chamberlain:try alsamixer
[02:00] <usser> spinull: nice
[02:01] <barbarella_me> chamberlain:esc = exit
[02:01] <chamberlain> barbarella_me: i can't use alsamixer, i need a command that can be used by my remote control
[02:02] <soundray> chamberlain: I *think* you may be looking for amixer. Have a look at the man page.
[02:02] <usser> isnt alsamixer a command line tool
[02:02] <soundray> usser: no, it's a text-based GUI
[02:02] <chamberlain> soundray: ok, i'll see
[02:02] <Bidash> barbarella_me i didn't notice your response until now. why did you say i shouldnt? "yes you can, but don't" about reading files from the windows ntfs partition when im in ubuntu..?
[02:02] <barbarella_me> chamberlain:dhaa...that's up to you, cause a i don't know.
[02:02] <chamberlain> soundray: perfect.  i'd used amixer before but i couldn't remember the command
[02:03] <JammasterJay> Here there, wanted to know how i open the 'bittorrent' included in ebuntu 6?
[02:03] <usser> soundray: yea i understand but it doesnt need nothing meaning i can run it through ssh?
[02:03] <mneptok> actually, alsamixer is a curses UI :)
[02:03] <mneptok> JammasterJay: double-click a .torrent
[02:03] <slyboots> as anyone here used MovieMate before?
[02:03] <slyboots> And mediamate  I mean
[02:03] <soundray> usser: you can
[02:03] <slyboots> and got it to work? It seems to have a botched install script
[02:03] <zielona_zabcia> hello is anyone here who can help me with wifi connection at ubuntu 6.10?
[02:04] <JammasterJay> mneptok:  tried that, but i dont see the gui or stats or anything
[02:04] <jlulian38> argh
[02:05] <mneptok> JammasterJay: you should get a progress window
[02:05] <zielona_zabcia> is anyone here who can help me with wifi connection at ubuntu 6.10?
[02:05] <soundray> slyboots: have you had a look at the install script?
[02:06] <C0stigan> barbarella_me, it runs fine, untilll i try to install i think the burn is crap
[02:06] <slyboots> Thats what Im trying to find, but Im not sure where it is stored
[02:06] <soundray> slyboots: ts
[02:06] <slyboots> ts?
[02:06] <soundray> slyboots: I've wasted keys on you
[02:06] <soundray> slyboots: /var/lib/dpkg/info/mediamate.postinst
[02:06] <slyboots> Well arnt you just a cheery fellow
[02:07] <barbarella_me> C0stigan:could be, or your cables, or bios settings
[02:07] <soundray> slyboots: definitely
[02:07] <Simon_Malaysia> hello
[02:07] <Simon_Malaysia> room
[02:07] <Simon_Malaysia> My name is Simon Yee
[02:08] <soundray> !hi | Simon_Malaysia
[02:08] <ubotu> Simon_Malaysia: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:08] <barbarella_me> zielona_zabcia:yes we can
[02:08] <Simon_Malaysia> I need some help to install the missing driver for the VIA display card
[02:08] <C0stigan> barbarella_me, i have downloaded winxp pro onto the comp via CD so bios isent the problem, cables are all fine O.o
[02:08] <Simon_Malaysia> Can ANy one help me please
[02:08] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: it's not missing, it's part of the default install.
[02:09] <Simon_Malaysia> how do I check if it is working
[02:09] <redcard> Does anyone know of a way to queue up Thoggen jobs?  I'm going on a business trip and want to take my DVDs in Ogg/Theora
[02:09] <Simon_Malaysia> I cannot get the display to lower down to 640 * 480
[02:09] <slyboots> Im looking at the script, but Im not realy sure what is wrong..  does not help that Im not sure what Im looking for exactly
[02:09] <nigro> hello
[02:09] <Simon_Malaysia> I need to do this because I use a very old monitor
[02:09] <crdlb> Simon_Malaysia: the resolution is too high?
[02:09] <barbarella_me> C0stigan:linux is more sensitive as windows
[02:09] <crdlb> ubuntu would be unusable at that resolution
[02:09] <Simon_Malaysia> yes
[02:09] <knoeki> in which path is firefox located? I'm configuring 'gmail notifier', it needs a path of a browser..
[02:09] <Simon_Malaysia> so what I do I do ?
[02:10] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and make sure via is selected as the driver
[02:10] <Simon_Malaysia> to make it display 640*480
[02:10] <C0stigan> barbarella_me, indeed thats why i think the dl was sh1t.
[02:10] <mneptok> C0stigan: did you md5sum the .iso files?
[02:10] <Grueliu1> Does feisty default with the 3g driver?
[02:10] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: later on, make sure that 640x480 is among the active resolutions.
[02:10] <C0stigan> hmm no i did not,
[02:10] <jago25> I can't get anything to listen to open a port to listen on; kismet UI & gpsd for example. Is there somesort of firewall by default I'm not aware of?
[02:10] <barbarella_me> C0stigan:try to reset your bios t default, and see what happens.
[02:11] <C0stigan> :/ i dont really want to play with the bios
[02:11] <orbin> knoeki: run: which firefox
[02:11] <C0stigan> yet at least
[02:11] <knoeki> orbin: ??
[02:11] <Simon_Malaysia> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' is not working
[02:12] <Simon_Malaysia> sound ray
[02:12] <Simon_Malaysia> help
[02:12] <mneptok> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:12] <mneptok> just that
[02:12] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: do not copy the quote marks
[02:12] <barbarella_me> C0stigan:what should go wrong, when you restore the bios to factory defaults!
[02:12] <orbin> knoeki: use the which command to locate an app's pathname
[02:13] <mneptok> orbin: which $appname
[02:13] <soundray> jago25: run 'sudo iptables -L'. If you get more than 8 lines of output, you've inadvertently installed a firewall.
[02:13] <knoeki> orbin: sorry, I'm a total n00b with ubuntu... how do I do that? >.>
[02:13] <C0stigan> barbarella_me, lol i dont think the bios is screwed and i reconfigured alot of stuff since 1997 :S
[02:13] <meatwad64> anyone here have an ati card that runs ut2004 right?
[02:14] <jago25> soundray, thanks. No rules. What could be stopping these things opening a port?
[02:14] <mneptok> knoeki: which $appname
[02:14] <phixnay> what command can I use to pop up a message box?
[02:14] <Simon_Malaysia> ok
[02:14] <redcard> So.. anyone?  A way to queue up Thoggen?
[02:14] <Simon_Malaysia> I got it but I do not what suppose to do
[02:14] <Simon_Malaysia> help
[02:14] <orbin> knoeki: apps > accessories > terminal
[02:14] <soundray> jago25: they may be trying privileged ports, in which case try starting them with sudo
[02:14] <knoeki> orbin: ah, in the terminal ^^
[02:14] <knoeki> okay thanks :D
[02:14] <Simon_Malaysia> how do you check if the hardware is correct for the VIA ?
[02:15] <HtBeast> I downloaded the alsa-info.sh script, and when I try to run it it tells me command not found. I try to run it from within the same directory with './alsa-info.sh' Any ideas?
[02:15] <jago25> soundray, nope, ports 2501 and have tried sudo. wierdness
[02:15] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: just see if it works. You can configure it back to the vesa driver if it doesn't
[02:15] <Simon_Malaysia> what I do DO ?
[02:15] <barbarella_me> C0stigan:try the cables then. Maybe they are from 1997 :-)
[02:15] <Pelo> HtBeast,  anything else in that download or what it just the one file ?
[02:16] <HtBeast> yes pelo
[02:16] <Grueliu1> does fesity fawn defualt to use the 3g NTFS driver or am i risking my windows partition!
[02:16] <Simon_Malaysia> It say auto detect video hardware Sound ray ?
[02:16] <Simon_Malaysia> yes or no ?
[02:16] <Pelo> HtBeast, you can'T answer and either /or question with yes
[02:16] <soundray> jago25: don't know then, sorry
[02:16] <Simon_Malaysia> sound ray auto detect ?
[02:16] <Pelo> HtBeast, you can'T answer an either/or question with yes
[02:16] <HtBeast> sorry. It's just one file
[02:16] <Pelo> ;)
[02:16] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: say yes, but change it to via if it doesn't set that automatically.
[02:17] <usser> that was one from bash.org
[02:17] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: and have some patience, please.
[02:17] <redcard> .part
[02:17] <Pelo> HtBeast,  try opening the file with a text editor and see if there are any instructions in it
[02:17] <redcard> Ack.
[02:17] <C0stigan> barbarella_me, lol, the cables are all fine, ive checked everything, only thing i can think of is the DL was screwy
[02:17] <Simon_Malaysia> no x server known for your video hardware
[02:17] <soundray> phixnay: zenity
[02:17] <Simon_Malaysia> no hardware installed Sound ray ?
[02:17] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: select via then
[02:17] <barbarella_me> C0stigan:sata or ata (ide) ?
[02:18] <phixnay> soundray: thanks, I'll give it a try
[02:18] <C0stigan> ide
[02:18] <Simon_Malaysia> ok
[02:18] <C0stigan> lol
[02:18] <Simon_Malaysia> Generic Video Card ?
[02:18] <C0stigan> its from 1997, barbarella_me ide all the way
[02:18] <C0stigan> lol
[02:18] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: accept the defaults now, until you get to the resolutions.
[02:18] <Simon_Malaysia> Generic Video Card Sound ray ?
[02:18] <HtBeast> nope, no instructions. I seem to remeber running it once before a few days ago in my never ending quest to get sound working, but that was a couple of re-installs ago and I've done so much I can't remember for sure
[02:19] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: I asked you to have some patience.
[02:19] <Pelo> HtBeast, did you use sudo ?
[02:19] <HtBeast> yep
[02:19] <Simon_Malaysia> ok I will be patience use kernel framebuffer ? yes /no
[02:19] <Pelo> HtBeast, check the site where you got it for instrucitons
[02:20] <barbarella_me> C0stigan:haha, maybe it is a wrong cd burn. It happens often
[02:20] <HtBeast> ok, thanks
[02:20] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: I won't reply to you any more now. I told you what to do already: just accept the defaults.
[02:20] <funkyHat> My system still thinks it has twice as much swap as is actually there...
[02:20] <funkyHat> How can I fix that?
[02:20] <root> guys my system wont boot to a login screen. it boots to command line as root
[02:21] <root> i can startx but cant log in as a normal user
[02:21] <soundray> funkyHat: interesting... have you got two swap entries in /etc/fstab ?
[02:21] <xSUSHix> Ubuntu says my cpu is running at 1000MHz when i know it should be 1600 - am I losing cycles ??
[02:21] <soundray> root: have you changed the default from 0 to 1 in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[02:21] <funkyHat> soundray, nope
[02:22] <Pelo> xSUSHix,  are you using  cpufreq ?  your comp is being throttled down because it doesn't need more cpu
[02:22] <jacques> hi eveyone, i'm back.  i've just tried knoppix live cd - and the sound works under that.  I strongly suspect it was the updates two days ago that broke my sound card. i've followed every recommendation I can find, i've trolled through error logs, mutings, volume switches alsamixer, groups...  Is there anything anyone else can think of that would have suddenly stopped my sound card working under all user accounts?
[02:22] <soundray> xSUSHix: no, it will go faster when you run a CPU-intensive task
[02:22] <root> il try that now. do i reboot after
[02:22] <Pijiu> I installed VLC and tried to run a few VCD's that I own but the CD-Drive won't detect them, do I need to install something to get it to detect the VCD?
[02:23] <soundray> root: no!
[02:23] <HtBeast> sorted pelo. I had to change permissions. Didn't think of that
[02:23] <root> ok?
[02:23] <Pelo> HtBeast, ;-)
[02:23] <soundray> root: if you had done that, it could have caused the problem
[02:23] <Endlessguitar> hello
[02:23] <Trebek> hey guys
[02:23] <root> oh, no i did not do that
[02:23] <Trebek> I have a noob problem
[02:23] <Endlessguitar> can some1 help me 2 install and download beryl?
[02:23] <Endlessguitar> so it works too
[02:23] <xSUSHix> soundray - i am currently running a game in the background which requires 100% cpu - and /proc/cpuinfo still says 1000mhz   =[   and i wish i had 1600 cuz the game is kinda laggy
[02:23] <soundray> root: have you made any other changes recently?
[02:24] <root> i just checked, it was set to 0
[02:24] <Pelo> Endlessguitar,   ask in #beryl
[02:24] <root> i started using the ati restricted driver
[02:24] <Endlessguitar> ok
[02:24] <Trebek> I just formatted my 2nd hard drive, and i have no permissions to it
[02:24] <Simon_Malaysia> sound ray ?
[02:24] <Simon_Malaysia> I have reach the part that detect the monitor resolution how Sound ray ?
[02:24] <Pelo> Trebek, sudo chmod 755 /mountpoint
[02:25] <soundray> xSUSHix: "sudo invoke-rc.d powernowd stop" disables throttling. I recommend turning it back on when you're done gaming
[02:25] <redfoxy> hi all
[02:25] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: have a look and see if you can figure it out for yourself.
[02:25] <barbarella_me> Trebek:man chown
[02:26] <Endlessguitar> thx pelo
[02:26] <Trebek> thanks
[02:26] <Trebek> im still learning this stuff ;)
[02:26] <Simon_Malaysia> Sound ray I selected only 600x800 640x480 can this do ?
[02:26] <Pelo> Trebek,  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[02:26] <maynards-girl> when installing, it the ubuntu flash screen supposed to be all fuzzy and blury OR is it my comp and/or monitor?
[02:26] <root> what else can i try
[02:26] <yell0w> hey guys, how can i recreate a new user profile ?
[02:26] <jlulian38> uhh
[02:26] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: that's fine
[02:26] <Pelo> maynards-girl,  probably your videocard
[02:26] <zhujiale> hello
[02:27] <jlulian38> firestarter is being like it's made of fail :/
[02:27] <yell0w> i think i screwed up alacarte
[02:27] <redfoxy> I'm now with ubuntu feisty with a geforce 8800GTX 768Mb, I've installed drivers following a good guide, now glxgears give me very good result but if i run secondlife when it starts to render whole system is frozen... or if i use compix i loose the bar to drags the windows... any ideas about it?
[02:27] <Pelo> yell0w,  /home/user/.config/menu
[02:27] <barbarella_me> Trebek:and you do, can't say about a lot of people
[02:27] <zhujiale> Anyone got the Canonical commercial repository to work with Feisty? The opera package appears nowhere for me...
[02:27] <Simon_Malaysia> Sound Ray it says "please choose a method for selecting your monitor characteristics." how ?
[02:28] <maynards-girl> pelo, ok.. seems to have cleared up since the desk top is loading
[02:28] <yell0w> Pelo, so i delete that folder and restart ?
[02:28] <DarlMcBride> Hello, fellow Ubuntu users. I'm Darl McBride. I am not a troll.
[02:28] <yell0w> lol
[02:28] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: select "Easy"
[02:28] <Pijiu> Anyone know how I can get my DVD/CD-Drive to recognise VCD's, it works for DVD and CD Rom but won't detect VCD
[02:28] <root> what is the command to start gdm
[02:28] <Pelo> yell0w,  look in it,  it keeps the config files for the menues,   you can delete the latest and rename one of the previous ones
[02:28] <DarlMcBride> Simon_Malaysia: No, "Easy" is for the uninformed. You want to be able to specify your monitor's horizontal sync and vertical refresh.
[02:29] <xSUSHix> soundray thankjs a bunch!!!
[02:29] <Simon_Malaysia> Sound ray This came up xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[02:29] <Simon_Malaysia>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070512082849"
[02:29] <Simon_Malaysia> is this ok
[02:29] <DarlMcBride> Simon_Malaysia: The "Easy" method is very poor advice.
[02:29] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: that's fine
[02:29] <barbarella_me> DarlMcBride:that is definite
[02:29] <SIIAU> i need help
[02:29] <soundray> DarlMcBride: can you keep out of this please
[02:30] <DarlMcBride> soundray: Suck it.
[02:30] <Pelo> SIIAU,  we need specifics
[02:30] <Simon_Malaysia> Do i restart ? Sound ray ?
[02:30] <soundray> !ops | DarlMcBride abuse
[02:30] <ubotu> DarlMcBride abuse: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[02:30] <yell0w> Pelo, you mean delete one of the *undo* files ?
[02:30] <soundray> Simon_Malaysia: yes
[02:30] <DarlMcBride> *shudders*
[02:30] <SIIAU> at startup show this message "Invalid PBLK length[5] "
[02:30] <DarlMcBride> I'll be good.
[02:30] <DarlMcBride> I promise. ::(
[02:30] <zion_da> hi
[02:30] <SIIAU> i use wibu
[02:30] <Pelo> yell0w,  no i mean delete the one called menu ( i think it is)  and rename one of the undo to menu
[02:31] <maynards-girl> this is going to take a while to install with only 256mb ram...
[02:31] <zion_da> i have a question
[02:31] <Pelo> yell0w,  or whatever it is
[02:31] <soundray> Thanks LjL
[02:31] <XLV> just installed 7.04 amd64.. anyone got some one-line command for nvidia graphics drivers, or can point me to some doc?
[02:31] <soundray> DarlMcBride: sorry for snapping at you
[02:31] <zion_da> i have a menu delay for 1 second on each menu i browse
[02:31] <zion_da> what can i do ?
[02:31] <soundray> DarlMcBride: you didn't know his requirements, and I did.
[02:31] <SIIAU> anyone can help me
[02:31] <SIIAU> ?
[02:32] <tritium> !nvidia > XLV
[02:32] <Pelo> SIIAU, search fhe error msg in the forum   www.ubuntoforums.com
[02:32] <DarlMcBride> zion_da: What window manager?
[02:32] <jacques> DarlMcBride: calling yourself by that sig doesn't win you any favours :)
[02:32] <SIIAU> ok thanks
[02:32] <XLV> former user for years of slackware, so i need all the help i can get ;-) thanks tritium
[02:32] <BigMac> Hey does anyone have a decent amount of experience with wifi?
[02:32] <harrisony> !forums | SIIAU
[02:32] <ubotu> SIIAU: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[02:32] <Pelo> zion_da, I had something like that because my hdd was being over used, if you have stuff like beryl or compiz installed it might also be a cause
[02:33] <harrisony> zion_da, if you are running on the live cd that is normal
[02:33] <BigMac> because this is just going horribly and I have tried many methods
[02:33] <zion_da> no
[02:33] <zion_da> it's not a live cd ....
[02:33] <SIIAU> ok
[02:33] <zion_da> it was ok until i configured
[02:33] <zion_da> the tv-out nvidia feature
[02:33] <zion_da> and after the menu's are in delay
[02:33] <soundray> BigMac: it can be a beast, but I'll have a go if you say what the issue is
[02:33] <zhujiale> so nobody use the feisty-commercial repo?
[02:34] <jrib> zhujiale: is there anything in them?
[02:34] <drK_avNgr> Hey guys I'm having some trouble with sound-converter, it doesn't show up in the right-click menu when I right click on a file I wish to convert, whether it be .ogg or .mp3. I'm using Feisty. Anyone have any insights?
[02:34] <zion_da> also tried to make a gtkrc file
[02:34] <zion_da> with delay=0
[02:34] <BigMac> soundray, do I have permission to pm you or do you want me to chat here
[02:34] <zion_da> and still there's a delay.
[02:34] <zhujiale> jrib: supposedly opera, realplayer and vmware-server
[02:34] <BigMac> !seen Sepheas
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen sepheas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <redfoxy> hey boys anyone can help me about 3d and nvidia?
[02:34] <Pelo> drK_avNgr,  try adding it  pick a file  right click  properties  open with
[02:35] <soundray> BigMac: let's meet in #ubuntu-classroom
[02:35] <buz1> Help! I was trying to figure out what the root password is on my install (i've been using sudo and haven't needed it). I didn't think to set a new root password it with "sudo passwd" but instead i changed settings in the sudoers file and now i can't execute visudo! - I know that was stupid :-( , but can anyone help me please?
[02:35] <BigMac> ok
[02:35] <zhujiale> jrib: but although the files do exist, enabling the repo doesn't seem to make 'opera' available to apt
[02:35] <harrisony> !seen  Seveas | BigMac
[02:35] <foutrelis> Hey. I am editing my /etc/sudoers to give some permissions to apache (www-data). I want it to be able to run the commands specified in STUFF, without entering a password. However with my current setup, useradd does not ask for a pass, while the other two do. What am I doing wrong? My /etc/sudoers is here: http://pastebin.us/34770
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen  seveas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <harrisony> !nvidia | redfoxy
[02:35] <ubotu> redfoxy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:35] <BigMac> Ah his name was Seveas
[02:35] <redfoxy> harrisony, i've the driver installed! i've troubles!
[02:36] <drK_avNgr> Pelo: Will do.
[02:36] <usser> zhujiale: u have ubuntu x64?
[02:36] <zion_da> any other ways to change menu delay besides gtkrc ?
[02:36] <Pijiu> how can i get my cd drive to detect vcd's
[02:36] <nathan_> Anyone else here running 7.04 with nVidia?
[02:36] <jrib> zhujiale: I only see vmware-server in http://archive.canonical.com/dists/feisty-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[02:36] <redfoxy> me
[02:37] <yargh> Guys, I booted into the ubuntu desktop CD and downloaded the ubutu alternate CD.  I mounted this to a folder on a hard drive - can I launch the CD from here?
[02:37] <cox37777> does someone know off the cuff the command to make an already added user into an admin users?
[02:37] <buz1> Help! I was trying to figure out what the root password is on my install (i've been using sudo and haven't needed it). I didn't think to set a new root password it with "sudo passwd" but instead i changed settings in the sudoers file and now i can't execute visudo! - I know that was stupid :-(  Is there any way to reset the sudoers file or set a root password?
[02:37] <zhujiale> usser: nope. i386
[02:37] <nathan_> redfoxy: You have any issues with resolution after nVidia install?
[02:37] <usser> zhujiale: hm weird then its not architecture pblem
[02:37] <barbarella_me> cox37777:man sudoers
[02:37] <funkyHat> zion_da, try gconf-editor ... though I wouldn't know where in there to look :/
[02:37] <foutrelis> yargh: So he can use sudo to do anything?
[02:37] <usser> zhujiale: did u do sudo apt-get update?
[02:38] <foutrelis> yargh: Wrong user.. Sorry :)
[02:38] <zhujiale> jrib: alright then. I wonder why they don't include the opera packages (which are indeed in pool)
[02:38] <redfoxy> nathan_, like? now i use 1280x1024 at 24bit
[02:38] <yargh> :(
[02:38] <cox37777> barbarella_me: umm how would it go if the user was say xxx
[02:38] <jrib> zhujiale: they were (are) in dapper-commercial
[02:38] <nathan_> redfoxy: yes
[02:38] <redfoxy> just reconfigure your xserver
[02:38] <zhujiale> jrib: thanks
[02:39] <nathan_> before I installed nvidia drivers I had 1024x768 (although I'd rather have 1280x1024 as well since that is native resolution)
[02:39] <phixnay> $ zenity --question --text="Come to sad realization, cancel or allow? "
[02:39] <phixnay> This option is not available. Please see --help for all possible usages.
[02:39] <zion_da> funkyHat, when i disable beryl and move to compiz or the standard ubuntu window managment i have no delay, maybe in beryl ? (i dont know where)
[02:39] <phixnay> why?
[02:39] <foutrelis> cox37777: Paste your /etc/sudoers on pastebin.us and give me the url.
[02:39] <barbarella_me> cox37777:reading is the best teacher
[02:39] <harrisony> zion_da, whar are you specs
[02:40] <redfoxy> nathan_, reconfigure your xserver to support new resolutions
[02:40] <nathan_> after nvidia installed it went to 800x600 despite the xorg.conf file says and nvidia-settings doesn't allow me to change the resolution either, just set to "auto"
[02:40] <harrisony> !pastebin | cox37777
[02:40] <ubotu> cox37777: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:40] <funkyHat> zion_da, ah. in that case... is the delay you are talking about while the menus are fading in and out?
[02:40] <Trebek> yay i figured out how to make my drive work
[02:40] <yargh> Anyone?  Can I install ubuntu-alternate from within the ubuntu-desktop livecd booted?
[02:40] <yargh> It's mounted to a hard drive
[02:41] <zion_da> no
[02:41] <zion_da> not the animation .
[02:41] <zion_da> the standard click and wait until......
[02:41] <phixnay> hey, does anybody know what's up with that zenity error I put earlier?
[02:41] <zion_da> normaly 1/4 second
[02:41] <zion_da> now 1.5 second!!
[02:41] <cox37777> harrisony: i'm trying, i'm running lamp and having issues
[02:41] <cox37777> harrisony: lol
[02:41] <Endlessguitar> hello
[02:42] <yargh> Or, is there any way to eject the live CD so I can burn another one.
[02:42] <yargh> ?
[02:42] <foutrelis> cox37777: Ehm.. lol :)
[02:42] <barbarella_me> phixnay:so you did a bad command
[02:42] <cox37777> foutrelis: trying to access it via sftp but its saying cannot read
[02:42] <Film> there's a hockey puck lodged in my monitor, quickly what do i deau?
[02:43] <slap_me> film...throw it on the floor
[02:43] <funkyHat> Film, :D
[02:43] <slap_me> and stomp on it a little bit
[02:43] <Film> solved
[02:43] <foutrelis> cox37777: Trying to access /etc/sudoers? O.O
[02:43] <slap_me> puck should come out
[02:43] <Hirvinen> Film: Throw it ouf of the window.
[02:43] <cmo> hey guys I have a question:  tried installing virtual box (works..) but in the process of trying to add myself to the vboxusers group it seems I removed myself from all the others (I am a member of my username and vboxusers now).  Is there anyway to re-add myself back to the groups? Thanks
[02:43] <foutrelis> cox37777: Maybe [sudo visudo]  to edit the file
[02:43] <jojek> join #ubuntu-pl
[02:43] <Hirvinen> Film: After tht, take out all the interesting electronic components and do something fun with them.
[02:43] <Pijiu> Is there anyway to get my cd drive to detect VCD's
[02:44] <jojek> join# ubuntu-pl
[02:44] <foutrelis> cox37777: When you're logged in via SSH
[02:44] <cox37777> foutrelis: shall try now
[02:44] <phixnay> barbarella_me: how so? it looks like correct syntax "zenity --question --text="Come to sad realization, cancel or allow? "
[02:44] <Film> Hirvinen: thanks, who do i make the check out to?
[02:44] <cox37777> foutrelis:
[02:44] <cox37777> gummy@ubuntu:~$ sudo visudo /etc/sudoers
[02:44] <cox37777> usage: visudo [-c]  [-f sudoers]  [-q]  [-s]  [-V] 
[02:44] <buz1> a question? Am I totally locked out? I haven't set a root password and I've accidentally removed my users ability to run visudu again. I can't sudo and I can't su - Is there anything else to do?
[02:45] <phixnay> barbarella_me: try it and it will probably work for you
[02:45] <nathan_> redfoxy, been there, done that.  I set it for new resolutions and everytime it's just 800x600.
[02:45] <foutrelis> cox37777: just: sudo visudo
[02:45] <redfoxy> nathan_, what res do you want use?
[02:45] <barbarella_me> phixnay:it still asked for a -h (help)
[02:45] <nathan_> ideally 1280x1024
[02:45] <foutrelis> cox37777: There should be a line at the bottom like this: your_username       ALL = (ALL) ALL
[02:45] <Shoeb> Hello, help on software RAID for Ubuntu Fesity server please? Thread at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=440424
[02:45] <zion_da> any idias?
[02:45] <cox37777> foutrelis: do i just add the user i want?
[02:45] <foutrelis> cox37777: You need to add another line with the other username :)
[02:46] <cox37777> foutrelis: sweet
[02:46] <cox37777> let me give it a go
[02:46] <foutrelis> cox37777: ok :] 
[02:46] <redfoxy> nathan_, open a shell then do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then follow the guide about xserver reconfigure, when you arrive at monitor settings, you must insert your max h and v freq and the resolutions that your monitor supports... after that restart xserver or reboot
[02:46] <redfoxy> and you'll give your new resolutions
[02:47] <cox37777> foutrelis: does the % mean it's commeted out?
[02:47] <cmo> anyone know how I can re-add myself to the admin group after removing myself.....
[02:47] <phixnay> barbarella_me: hmm so what should I do? It's the right syntax, but it asks for help. is that some kind of bug
[02:47] <foutrelis> cox37777: I am not sure. My commented out lines begin with #
[02:47] <knoeki> how do I switch to the root account?
[02:47] <foutrelis> !sudo | knoeki
[02:47] <ubotu> knoeki: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:48] <phixnay> knoeki: do sudo su if you really want to have the #
[02:48] <XLV_feisty> !nvidia
[02:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:48] <buz1> cox37777: no, it's a variable you just need to add another user without the %
[02:48] <cox37777> buz1: ok done it, lets see if it works
[02:48] <barbarella_me> phixnay:sman zenity
[02:48] <mag_> join #ubuntu-es
[02:48] <barbarella_me> phixnay:man zenity
[02:48] <cox37777> buz1: yup
[02:49] <buz1> cox37777: super
[02:49] <phixnay> barbarella_me: I already looked at that: ok here's what's happening. When I do it on my computer, it works like it should. When I do it through ssh to another computer, it gives the error
[02:50] <buz1> I haven't set a root password and I've accidentally removed my admin groups privileges to sudo, so I can't run visudu again to rectify it. I can't sudo and I can't su - Is there anything I can do?
[02:51] <yargh> Can I burn a CD from the ubuntu live CD if I only have on CDrROM?
[02:51] <phixnay> buz1: I think if you reboot into recovery mode (press esc to access the grub menu when it tells you to) you'll be able to fix that. NOt sure though
[02:51] <jrib> buz1: reboot and choose recovery mode from the grub menu
[02:51] <Shoeb> Can someone please help me out about software RAID on Feisty server?
[02:51] <barbarella_me> phixnay:it uses a gui
[02:51] <buz1> phixnay & jrib: thanks, I'll try that now
[02:52] <yargh> cd /
[02:52] <barbarella_me> phixnay:that's why it doesn't work with ssh.
[02:52] <Do``> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2616708
[02:52] <Do``> could someone help with this problem?
[02:52] <phixnay> barbarella_me: wow, ok that's why
[02:52] <harrisony> !raid | Shoeb
[02:52] <ubotu> Shoeb: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:52] <phixnay> barbarella_me: is it possible to mix ssh and gui?
[02:52] <XLV_feisty> !nvidia>XLV_feisty
[02:52] <Shoeb> Thanks!
[02:54] <mattwalston> i am beyond caring what the price is... I am looking for a NIC that works 100% with a current kernel, not one that works 20 hours and needs to restart the networking or reload module, any suggestions?
[02:54] <barbarella_me> phixnay:try vnc, you can use it over ssh, and use the gui.
[02:55] <wepeel> Hi all, I'm having a heck of a problem. I'm running 6.10 on two machines. On one machine, I'm able to install a program. On the other, it has unresolvable dependencies (trying to install via apt-get) Should I try another avenue?
[02:56] <barbarella_me> mattwalston:what is the hardware of your nic?
[02:56] <wepeel> And, yes, it's important to have this software on the other computer
[02:56] <cbs> I was trying to install nvidia drivers, now ubuntu boots to a console, before which appears a blue screen, and a red message box talking about xserver not being able to find a suitable window...does anyone know a quick way to fix this?
[02:56] <mattwalston> barbarella_me, x86, 32-bit or 64-bit pci avail
[02:56] <crdlb> cbs: only if you can get the specific error
[02:57] <cox37777> 777 means permissions for everyone doesnt it?
[02:57] <theconartist> is there any way to resume http downloads that were interrupted?
[02:57] <barbarella_me> mattwalston:???
[02:57] <crdlb> theconartist: what were they downloaded with?
[02:57] <crdlb> with wget: wget -c
[02:57] <funkyHat> cox37777, yes 777 is read write and execute for everyone
[02:57] <theconartist> crdlb, ty
[02:58] <mattwalston> barbarella_me, oh, right now I have some kind of marvel chipset with the onboard that does not have any stability
[02:58] <mattwalston> barbarella_me, after 20-30 hours it has to have the network restarted
[02:58] <funkyHat> theconartist, wget can resume half-done downloads
[02:59] <barbarella_me> mattwalston:can you pastebin your output of lspci?
[02:59] <Film> Anyone using a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-150?
[02:59] <barbarella_me> Film:yes
[02:59] <theconartist> crdlb, its working thanks
[02:59] <majnoon> <<diff hauppage card
[02:59] <theconartist> funkyHat, i didnt know :o
[02:59] <Film> barbarella_me: Just curious what program you're using it with. Using mplayer myself.
[03:00] <Film> and ivtv-tune to change channels
[03:00] <josh_> !rar
[03:00] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:00] <icebreeze> finally! thank god for debootstrap. no need for useless backing up of over 50 gigs of information
[03:00] <josh_> !unrar-free
[03:00] <barbarella_me> Film:you want to use the hardware encoder?
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrar-free - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <majnoon> Film: i have a wintv card with fm radio
[03:00] <Film> barbarella_me: that would be nice
[03:01] <crdlb> !info unrar-free
[03:01] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[03:01] <majnoon>  .o0(does this peer guy work for micro$oft ??)
[03:01] <Romeo> hi
[03:01] <yellow_chicken> for board com wireless cards, do i need additional configuration to get it working or will it work off of the live cd-install?
[03:01] <barbarella_me> Film:as i know from now....you can't.
[03:02] <Romeo> a
[03:02] <Romeo> helo
[03:02] <Romeo> hi
[03:02] <Dihydrogen> Hello!
[03:02] <Film> barbarella_me: what program do you use?
[03:02] <mattwalston> barbarella_me, its in the bin
[03:03] <Dragnslcr> Anyone tried installing Feisty as a Xen guest? Just wondering if it's worth experimenting with
[03:04] <Shoeb> harrisony: If the RAID links say I'd need an alternate CD. Does that mean I have to get a server alternate CD, or a desktop alternate CD? I can't find the server alternate CD.
[03:05] <Shoeb> !alternate server CD
[03:05] <usser> Shoeb: thats because server only comes with alternate cd
[03:05] <barbarella_me> Film:i use a different card for now, and using mencoder for recording.
[03:05] <usser> *in
[03:05] <Romeo> aranzda trk varm ?
[03:05] <Shoeb> usser: What do you mean, sorry?
[03:05] <yellow_chicken> in xchat how to display all users in the channel on the left or right panel?
[03:05] <Film> barbarella_me: alirght, thanks any how
[03:05] <crdlb> yellow_chicken: xchat or xchat-gnome ?
[03:06] <yellow_chicken> xchat-gnome
[03:06] <crdlb> yellow_chicken: you can't
[03:06] <usser> Shoeb: theres no alternate cd for server, if u installing server it is assumed u dont need to be hold by hand
[03:06] <crdlb> you have to click the button
[03:06] <Pijiu> I'm having problems getting dual screens going, I connected my VGA cable to my laptop and my monitor worked but the resolution was stuck at 800x600 and the laptop wasn't displaying
[03:06] <javes> where is a good place to find some radio stations?
[03:06] <crdlb> or use regular xchat
[03:06] <crdlb> !info xchat
[03:06] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[03:06] <crdlb> !info xchat-gnome
[03:06] <yellow_chicken> crdlb: well how about for xchat theN?
[03:06] <ubotu> xchat-gnome: a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.16-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 305 kB, installed size 784 kB
[03:06] <Shoeb> usser: Yes, but unfortunately, RAID seems to be an option in the alternate CD?
[03:06] <crdlb> yellow_chicken: it's always the right sidebar in regular xchat
[03:07] <yellow_chicken> crdlb: hm... i don't recall that the last time i installed in in 7.04
[03:07] <Dihydrogen> I'm having an issue with my Feisty Fawn, whenever I try to install .deb package I get an error saying 'telnet' is missing final newline. I am getting this on non-telnet related packages.
[03:07] <mattwalston> barbarella_me, know the story on that marvell chip?  pasted to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20434/
[03:07] <crdlb> yellow_chicken: it's there, you may have to drag it out though
[03:08] <crdlb> but remember xchat-gnome != xchat
[03:09] <linuxor> HI, I've installed my ATI Raden 7500 on ubuntu7.04 but can not enable GL Desktop???
[03:09] <yellow_chicken> crdlb: yes, but looks very similar
[03:09] <crdlb> linuxor: #ubuntu-effects
[03:09] <crdlb> yellow_chicken: they look quite different really
[03:09] <yellow_chicken> crdlb: feels like a wrapper class around that app
[03:09] <linuxor> crdlb, thx
[03:09] <crdlb> it is but the UI is very differnt
[03:09] <usser> Shoeb: well are u installing a desktop or a server?
[03:09] <usser> Shoeb: whats the purpose of the machine?
[03:09] <Shoeb> usser: Server.
[03:10] <Shoeb> usser: Web/mail/ftp - webhost server.
[03:10] <maikol> will the vfat drivers fragment data?
[03:10] <yellow_chicken> crdlb: ... still get the horizontal line divider. and spell check.
[03:10] <yellow_chicken> feels the same for me
[03:10] <crdlb> yellow_chicken: yes but the ui around that is completely different
[03:10] <phixnay> you know how in windows you do in explorer \\192.168.1.whatever to get somebody's share
[03:10] <phixnay> where do you put that in for linux
[03:10] <crdlb> xchat-gnome also has <> around the nicks
[03:11] <yellow_chicken> /192.x.x.x
[03:11] <J^son> places/newtork
[03:11] <usser> Shoeb: and it doesnt give u an option of RAID?
[03:11] <yellow_chicken>  / /192.x.x.x
[03:11] <J^son> places/network
[03:11] <phixnay> yellow_chicken: wgere do you type that in?
[03:11] <usser> Shoeb: u'd guess a server version would have it
[03:11] <usser> Shoeb: i dunno
[03:11] <Shoeb> That;s ok, thanks for trying. :)
[03:11] <cyril_> anyone have trie to use pptp client with network manager ?
[03:11] <phixnay> J^son: places network doesn't show the share I want to get
[03:11] <cyril_> tried *
[03:12] <yellow_chicken> phixnay: in explorer or in my compuer's address bar
[03:12] <usser> Shoeb: but really for that much u can have a regular desktop ubuntu
[03:12] <usser> Shoeb: just install apache, postfix and vsftpd
[03:13] <usser> Shoeb: and configure
[03:13] <cyril_> anyone have tried to use pptp client with network manager ?
[03:13] <con-man> Im having trouble finding the main udev.rules file.  locate udev.rules does not return anything
[03:13] <phixnay> yellow_chicken: hm maybe there's something wrong with the share i'd like to access, cause it's not working : (
[03:14] <con-man> !udev
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <cox37777> i';ve got this problem, i've added a additionaly user to my ubuntu lamp, this user credentials are for login to the lamp box from a windows box. I've added the user name and password under samba but i still cant get it to log in. any i missing anything. this is also my samba.conf http://pastebin.ca/484093, could someone see if i'm doing everything right?
[03:17] <javes> Small question, i just deleted the "panel" in the upper left hand corner where i had my network and beryl and stuff, how do i get that back?
[03:17] <javes> sorry make that right hand corner
[03:18] <javes> Before I could select the wireless network and such, how might i get that back?
[03:20] <NobleCommerce> Hey, I can mount an smb share using 'connect to server' but i'd like to mount it on the actual filesystem... how do I do that?
[03:21] <slvmchn__> if i have a fast connection how long will upgrading from edgy to feisty take
[03:21] <javes> aaaargh
[03:22] <Khisanth> hrm the installer is kinda ...
[03:23] <usser> NobleCommerce: u'd need an smbfs package
[03:23] <javes> Can anyone help me with a simple questio about the panel?
[03:23] <usser> NobleCommerce: once its installed u can use mount command with specified filesystem smbfs
[03:24] <mag_> does enyone know if there are problems with nvidia driver in festy ?
[03:25] <darwin> Does anyone know an easy way to add VMware Tools to an existing .vmx virtual machine?
[03:25] <XLV_feisty> mag_, just installed them, feisty 64bit, no problem
[03:25] <Shoeb> Is there a tutorial somewhere for Software RAID on Feisty?
[03:25] <mag_> XLV_feisty:  the problem is that my driver is ok but beryl is slow now !
[03:25] <llol> shoeb u have the alternate cd
[03:25] <llol> ?
[03:26] <Shoeb> llol: Yes. But is that the server edition?
[03:26] <javes> I deleted the icons in my system trey, any ideas on how to get it back? I kind of need my network icon and mail notifier
[03:26] <Shoeb> llol: Isn't the alternate CD for desktop purposes?
[03:26] <XLV_feisty> mag_, dont know about that, not using beryl
[03:26] <llol> yes
[03:26] <NobleCommerce> usser: Thanks, i got that installed, mounted, put it into fstab, and now i'm rebooting to see if it comes through!
[03:27] <mag_> XLV_feisty: ok np thank's
[03:28] <llol> shoeb what kind of raid are u attempting
[03:28] <Shoeb> llol: RAID1
[03:29] <llol> k
[03:29] <morodock_> exit
[03:29] <llol> ive never messed with the server edition
[03:29] <nekyinboots> Q: If I replace a CD Drive will ubuntu auto-detect the new drive?
[03:29] <llol> but with the desktop its available in the alternate cd
[03:29] <EvilGrin|Win> slvmchn__, a lot of it depends on your system. There's a lot of writing stuff to the filesystem and decompressing. So it'll tax your CPU/HDD as much as your Internet connection.
[03:29] <usser> nekyinboots: yes
[03:30] <Shoeb> llol: There is no server edition alternate CD, is there?
[03:30] <nekyinboots> Kewl thanks
[03:30] <llol> ill check for ya
[03:30] <darwin> What are the differences between QEMU and VMware?
[03:30] <EvilGrin|Win> Shoeb, no, server install is text mode.
[03:30] <slvmchn__> amd athlon 1.3 ghz 256 mb ram, can you estimate a ballpark figure?
[03:30] <slvmchn__> 2 hours, 4 hours?
[03:31] <EvilGrin|Win> slvmchn__, an hour.
[03:31] <mattwalston> Any ideas what would cause a Marvell 88E8053 to give so many headaches?  It continually stops working and restarting the network service fixes it.  Bad drivers?  I have 5 computers and all reproduce the problem.
[03:31] <slvmchn__> oh really? nice
[03:31] <slvmchn__> i'll upgrade tonight then
[03:31] <slvmchn__> i've just been putting it off
[03:31] <slvmchn__> thanks evil :-D |Win
[03:31] <Hirvinen> darwin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=comparison+of+virtual+machines
[03:31] <EvilGrin|Win> slvmchn__, My barton based system took 30mins. So I figure..
[03:32] <llol> hey shoeb
[03:32] <llol> check the third paragraph heere http://www.nabble.com/Differences-between-Feisty-server-and-desktop-editions-t3648812.html
[03:32] <Shoeb> EvilGrin|Win: I just don't want to use alternate CD to install my server because what if it's installing desktop components?
[03:33] <EvilGrin|Win> Shoeb, if you want a server install, use a server CD. Thats the entire point.
[03:33] <Shoeb> EvilGrin|Win: What if I want a server install with RAID?
[03:33] <Hirvinen> Shoeb: The whole point of alternate cd is to give you more control of the installation. It can be used to install only the components you want to.
[03:33] <darwin> How can I add VMware Tools to an existing VMware Virtual Machine?
[03:34] <llol> yep hirvie got it
[03:34] <llol> hehe
[03:34] <EvilGrin|Win> Shoeb, you get to configure that during the installation. (unless it's hardware raid).
[03:34] <Hirvinen> Shoeb: But probably if you know that you are going to use the machine only as a server, there's little reason not to use the server cd.
[03:34] <Shoeb> EvilGrin|Win: That's the whole thing!! I don't know where to configure RAID on the server CD.
[03:35] <Shoeb> Hirvinen: Exactly, I just don't see any software RAID install options on the server CD
[03:35] <Hirvinen> Shoeb: I think howtoforge has a pretty good guide to installing a lot of things on an Ubuntu server, you should maybe check it out.
[03:35] <EvilGrin|Win> Shoeb, it'll prompt you with a 'suggestion' as to how to partition the disk(s). Cancel that dialog and you'll be droped in the raid/disk/partition configuration wizard.
[03:35] <Shoeb> Hirvinen: Yes they do, unfortunatelty, there's nothing about RAID with feisty.
[03:35] <Shoeb> EvilGrin|Win: Let me try that out, lol.
[03:35] <Hirvinen> Shoeb: Also, at least Ubuntu wiki should have instructions for a RAID installation.
[03:36] <Shoeb> Hirvinen: There is none with Feisty.
[03:36] <kazol> In k9copy, I get this error msg: "Dvdauthro error :". What does it mean?
[03:36] <DaveMora> anyone have experience with biometric on ubuntu?
[03:36] <kazol> *Dvdauthor error
[03:36] <Hirvinen> Shoeb: I think it should be doable on the server cd, but I won't swear on it. At least it should be possible with alternate cd.
[03:37] <EvilGrin|Win> Hirvinen, nah server cd will do what he wants. To be fair, it's not obvious when you run it.
[03:37] <DaveMora> I want to deploy ubuntu for a whole office but I need a biometric solution. Anyone have any suggestions I cant seem to find anything that can help me accomplish this
[03:37] <madman91> when i start gdesklets.. it says it cannot establish a connection to the daemon: timeout! .. what can i do?
[03:37] <llol> yo shoeb
[03:38] <Hirvinen> Shoeb: Even if there are no Feisty-specific instructions, the server and alternate installers shouldn't have changed too much from the previous versions.
[03:38] <llol> shoeb here http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704
[03:38] <llol> most likely ull have to setup LVM
[03:38] <llol> when ur making partitions
[03:38] <madman91> here is the log of gdesklets starting http://paste.stgraber.org/838
[03:38] <Shoeb> llol: Thanks man, I looked at that though, doesn;t show much about RAID.
[03:39] <llol> well the way its done with the alternate should be close to it
[03:39] <llol> when ur making the partitions
[03:39] <llol> u select MD RAID or LVM
[03:39] <strabes> what filesystem would ya'll recommend i format my external hard drive to? right now it's fat32 but i heard that can't support files over 4gb which might be a problem because i'm going to be backing up my system onto this drive using sbackup which creates tar.gz files.
[03:39] <llol> and combine the partitions into 1
[03:39] <XLV_feisty> compared to slack, lots of clickety-click, but it gets the job done, using it for 30mins and already have gfx drivers, non free codecs, various apps installed
[03:39] <madman91> strabes: .. i use ext3.. and i think it works great
[03:39] <EvilGrin|Win> strabes, ext3 will be fine
[03:40] <MoLE_> strabes, ext3 or reiserfs
[03:40] <llol> only thing is to be able to boot ull need a ext partition on one of the drives
[03:40] <kazol> I get this error msg running k9copy: "ERR: Error reading from pipe: No such file or directory"
[03:40] <strabes> MoLE_ madman91 EvilGrin|Win thanks
[03:40] <EvilGrin|Win> right peeps, I'm off to bed :)
[03:40] <EvilGrin|Win> strabes np
[03:41] <davo`> wtf hax.
[03:41] <MoLE_> strabes, np
[03:41] <llol> shoeb did u try doing a manual partition edit
[03:42] <MorningWood> Hello, I was wondering if someone might be able to help me with my SD card reader
[03:42] <demon_spork> How do I reinstall GRUB?
[03:42] <Shoeb> llol: Trying that now..
[03:42] <llol> iight
[03:42] <Gerro> MorningWood: no we can't get a camera and a usb cable then shove whatever you like on it
[03:42] <madman91> !ask | MorningWood
[03:42] <ubotu> MorningWood: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:42] <madman91> :)
[03:42] <MorningWood> heh, k
[03:42] <dotpavan> !grub > demon_spork
[03:43] <Gerro> MorningWood: buy a usb drive :P
[03:43] <Shoeb> EvilGrin|Bed:
[03:43] <Shoeb> You there?
[03:44] <Shoeb> Please tell me you are1
[03:44] <Shoeb> lol
[03:44] <spasticteapot> Anyone here know how to run OpenRPG after downloading from the repository?
[03:44] <Bitmess> simplest way to change the location of my home folder?
[03:44] <MorningWood> Well I have a Recoh R5C822 SD/MMC reader and I've been trying to get it to work (running updated kernel on ubuntustudio) and it doesn't seem to want to cooperate but I've read that the driver for this device has been included since 2.6.17
[03:44] <JammasterJay> Is there a way to import my old Microsoft Outlook .PST file into an ebuntu email program?
[03:45] <jakeholee> anyone know how I can run .exe files?
[03:45] <mag_> how can I change the frecuency of my monitor ? I have nvidia, when I had edgy all works fine but now with festy I have some problems
[03:45] <MorningWood> Gerro, have one...just need to get pictures off of my SD card when I don't have the usb cable around
[03:45] <vegas_> download wine
[03:45] <jakeholee> I need to install drivers for my wifi card
[03:45] <MorningWood> Ricoh*
[03:45] <vegas_> jakeholee: download wine and follow the instructions on the site and you can run .exe with that
[03:45] <JammasterJay> jakeholee: you can unzip certain .exe files
[03:45] <spasticteapot> jakeholee: WINE will let you run .exe files, but you'll need to use some Linux dirvers - a .exe installer is usually for Windows.
[03:45] <spasticteapot> JammasterJay: Did'nt know that. How?
[03:46] <|Jason8|> Gah!  I just installed windows on my computer, and now my swap file doesn't work.  I looked at the fstab, and it's there... along with a really long alphanumeric string. I don't remember seeing that ever.
[03:46] <spasticteapot> jakeholee: DriverGuide.com is your friend. Use it.
[03:46] <jakeholee> thank you.  any ideas how to get linksys drivers for ubuntu?
[03:46] <Bitmess> Waht's the simplest way to change the location of my home folder? Anyone please.
[03:46] <spasticteapot> jakeholee: Find the chipset for your card.
[03:46] <mneptok> JammasterJay: install Thunderbird on Windows and have it import all your stuff
[03:46] <JammasterJay> Just right clicked em...unzip..voila
[03:47] <JammasterJay> mneptok: Thunderbird, thx!
[03:47] <yargh> Can I burn a CD from the ubuntu live CD if I only have on CDrROM?
[03:47] <llol> shoeb see anything
[03:47] <jakeholee> spastic....where would I look for the chipset?
[03:47] <Shoeb> llol: It goes back to the same partitioner. :(
[03:48] <llol> u tried the manual? type
[03:48] <spasticteapot> jakeholee: Google your card.
[03:48] <spasticteapot> llol: Not going to be in there, I'm afraid.
[03:48] <llol> dude
[03:48] <llol> u have data to loose
[03:48] <MorningWood> anyone know what I might be able to do to finally get this reader to work?
[03:48] <cjae> I asked here earlier what was the equivilant'
[03:48] <spasticteapot> jakeholee: If you have the WUSB11 V4, just give up.
[03:48] <llol> ?
[03:48] <spasticteapot> I hates it so bad....
[03:49] <cjae> of isobuster in ubuntu or linux
[03:49] <jakeholee> spastic...thanks, I'll try that.  No, its wpc54g
[03:49] <llol> thats were u make partitions and make RAID partitions
[03:49] <cjae> someone said vine what is that
[03:49] <cafuego> jakeholee: wpc54g which version
[03:49] <llol> the alternate install cd is the one with the raid stuff no
[03:49] <llol> ?
[03:50] <llol> thats how i remember setting my raid up
[03:50] <Bitmess> What's the simplest way to change the location of my home folder? Anyone please.
[03:50] <spasticteapot> jakeholee: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/thread28636-1.html
[03:50] <cafuego> raid is easy to set up after install. make partitioons, call mdadm --create, mkfs, mount, done
[03:50] <spasticteapot> Seems like you're in a pickle.
[03:50] <cafuego> spasticteapot: he left
[03:50] <spasticteapot> Fnord.
[03:50] <spasticteapot> Well, I tried.
[03:50] <cafuego> spasticteapot: he prolly has  abcm4306, like mine, which works fine with the right firmware.
[03:51] <cjae> maybe they meant wine
[03:51] <cholera> anyone have any mencoder knowledge they would like to share :)
[03:51] <spasticteapot> cafuego: My general advice is "Go buy an Orinoco Gold card."
[03:51] <cafuego> Sorry, i only contain ffmpeg-fu.
[03:51] <spasticteapot> Can't really go wrong with one of those.
[03:51] <cafuego> spasticteapot: You don't need to, the 4306 works *fine*
[03:51] <madman91> i am having an issue with gdesklets .. i get an error when it starts..
[03:51] <Bitmess> Can I put my home folder on Fat32 partition?
[03:51] <cafuego> spasticteapot: Without wep, with wep, with wpa-psk, with wpa-tkip
[03:52] <madman91>  http://paste.stgraber.org/838
[03:52] <icebreeze> what package needs to be installed to get the file /usr/sbin/base-config new
[03:52] <knoeki> is it just me or is it impossible to download a torrent client for Ubuntu PPC?
[03:52] <cafuego> knoeki: rtorrent
[03:52] <jrib> Bitmess: usermod to change your home.  fat32 sounds like a really bad idea for your home since it doesn't use permissions
[03:52] <knoeki> cafuego: will look, thanks ^^
[03:52] <cafuego> it's command line/ncurses - but excellent.
[03:53] <spasticteapot> cafuego: Yes, but the Orinoco Gold card is, well, an Orinoco Gold card.
[03:53] <tritium> Bitmess: don't try fa32 for your home dir, as jrib warns
[03:53] <cafuego> spasticteapot: Also not really an option for iBook users
[03:53] <cholera> what is the easiest way to convert a dv file into a avi file, not a mencoder mpeg-4 (FMP4) I have been trying to convert video files so I can post on my site, anyone using windows is unable to play the files I post
[03:54] <Fezzler> I just installed nVidia GeForce 5500 AGP.  I'm a real newbie.  Found instruction on how to load nvidia.  But how can I check if I have the right drivers for the 5500 installed?
[03:54] <starkruzr> can someone help me figure out why my Samba shares tell every machine that tries to connect to them (both Windows and OSX, so far) that the password they are trying to use is wrong?
[03:54] <cafuego> cholera: ffmpeg.
[03:54] <spasticteapot> cafuego: Actually, the Orinoco Gold card has the same chipset as the AirPort card. They've been shoehorned in there before, or so I'm told.
[03:55] <DaveMora> cholera:  tell windows users to get VideoOnLan. Sorry for my lack of suggestions.
[03:55] <Fezzler> call me Fez:  I want to make sure I installed correctly before I play with Beryl
[03:55] <XLV_feisty> Bitmess, you could try a umsdos file over fat32 and have your home dir inside the umsdos
[03:55] <MorningWood> Does anyone know how to get the Ricoh SD/MMC card readers to work under feisty?
[03:55] <spasticteapot> Anyone know where the log file for booting is?
[03:55] <starkruzr> MorningWood: Couldn't tell you, sorry.
[03:55] <spasticteapot> That has all the nifty text in it telling me my filesystem is FUBAR?
[03:55] <Bitmess> Hmmm. my plans have been thwarted
[03:55] <cholera> DaveMora: thats cool, I have been supplying a codec download for them to install
[03:55] <MorningWood> thanks anyway starkruzr
[03:55] <spasticteapot> Bitmess: Bootfile plz?
[03:56] <RobbieCrash> How can I delete and add system users from command line?
[03:56] <RobbieCrash> !blacklist
[03:56] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[03:56] <noiesmo> !samba
[03:56] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:56] <Bitmess> spasticteapot, I don't understand
[03:56] <Fezzler> Are all Ubuntu nvidia drivers one and the same?
[03:56] <starkruzr> spasticteapot: did you look in /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/boot?
[03:56] <spasticteapot> Bitmess: Sorry, could'nt resist being a dork.. Seriously, though, I need to find the log of all the text that's spit out while booting.
[03:57] <spasticteapot> starkruzr: That should do it.
[03:57] <cjae> what does fixme:wave:ALSA_AddCaptureDevice Add support for DSCapture
[03:57] <cjae> mean
[03:57] <cables> Fezzler, no, there are three of them. Restricted Drivers Manager should automatically detect what you need.
[03:57] <starkruzr> Glad I could help :)
[03:57] <knoeki> when I want to download rTorrent PPC, I get to this page http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/rtorrent but when I select PPC, I just get a list of files... do I download them seperatly or is the a rar/zip/whatever avalible?
[03:57] <DaveMora> cholera, VideoOnLAN comes with a crapload of codecs that is why I love it.
[03:57] <Bitmess> spasticteapot, Mine says (ACPI) Cannot map memory that high
[03:57] <Bitmess> spasticteapot, what does that mean?
[03:57] <spasticteapot> Well, I'm confused.
[03:58] <spasticteapot> Bitmess: I have no idea.
[03:58] <phayro> Hi all, linux newbie here.  I have just installed the "edgy" distro on my cf48 laptop.  trying to get wireless to work.  linksys card seems to be recognized as eth0
[03:58] <RobbieCrash> More importantly than adding and deleting users, will deleting my old user account and then adding a new one get me around this totally broken /home/ dir issue that I'm having, or should I just format and reinstall it?
[03:58] <starkruzr> can someone help me figure out why my Samba shares tell every machine that tries to connect to them (both Windows and OSX, so far) that the password they are trying to use is wrong?
[03:58] <cholera> cafeugo: I have to ask, there must be an easier way to do things other than what I'm using. I capture the dv tape using Kino, I then use kino to combine all the files captured and export to a mpeg. I use mencoder to convert the mpeg to avi.
[03:58] <RobbieCrash> By it, I mean feisty
[03:58] <cables> phayro, Edgy is outdated.
[03:59] <Fezzler> cables: So if my new graphics card is working and Restricted Driver Manager appears in my System>Administration menu, I installed it correctly
[03:59] <MajorPayne> How ho I stop all the windows from popping up when I plug something in my computer or put a cd in.  I want nothing to happen but the file system to be mounted (if there is one).
[03:59] <RobbieCrash> starkruzr have you added the users to your samba list on ubuntu?
[03:59] <Bitmess> Any way is it safe to use some partition utility to resize a FAT32 partition to make room for an ext2 home place?
[03:59] <phayro> cables, the new distro wouldnt install on my laptop
[03:59] <noiesmo> starkruzr, you need to use smbpasswd to create user passwords fort samba or you can change a setting in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[03:59] <cables> Fezzler, whether it appears has nothing to do with it
[03:59] <cjae> what does fixme:wave:ALSA_AddCaptureDevice Add support for DSCapture
[03:59] <cjae> mean
[03:59] <noiesmo> starkruzr, if you change setting in smb.conf then no password required
[03:59] <phayro> laptop is several yrs old p3 600 mhz
[04:00] <phayro> wireless cardis external pcmcia
[04:00] <starkruzr> RobbieCrash and noiesmo: With what?  If I really *need* to do that why isn't it part of System > Administration > Shared Folders?
[04:00] <yargh> Can I burn a CD from the ubuntu live CD if I only have one CDROM?
[04:00] <noiesmo> starkruzr, http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20061113171007630&query=samba
[04:00] <Bitmess> jrib,  is it safe to use some partition utility to resize a FAT32 partition to make room for an ext2 home place?
[04:00] <Keroman> If anybody has the time I could use a little help getting my Ubuntu started.  I've downloaded the .iso, burned it onto a CD, and installed it on my laptop, but when I start it up it goes through the login process, but won't load anything but the wallpaper and mouse.  I've reinstalled multiple times, and even re-burned the .iso to another disc, but it's doing the same thing.  Any ideas?
[04:00] <starkruzr> I'm only trying to log in as the user to whom the directory belongs.
[04:00] <chatnoir> Hello! Seeking a little help for a minor issue...
[04:00] <mlange> i've lost my top edge panel anyone know how to set it back to default?
[04:00] <orbin> MajorPayne: sys > prefs > removable - uncheck browse
[04:00] <Fezzler> cables:  Well, I have a monitor working off the new card.  The Restricted DM say nvidia accelerated installed, so again, how do I know if I installed the right driver?
[04:00] <cein> good question yargh
[04:01] <cholera> cafuego: I put a post out there, I misspelled your nick though
[04:01] <starkruzr> i.e. if the directory was /home/starkruzr and I had that shared as //HOST/STARKRUZR why should I have to muck about with smbpasswd?
[04:01] <cables> Fezzler, try running a 3d program like a screensaver and see if that works
[04:01] <danny3793> Can someone help me with a problem i am having installing Ubuntu
[04:01] <RobbieCrash> starkruzr http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/create-a-samba-user-on-ubuntu/
[04:01] <chatnoir> How to setup the sensitivity of the trackpoint on my Thinkpad x21?
[04:01] <Fezzler> okay
[04:01] <chatnoir> I'm on Xubuntu <feisty
[04:01] <RobbieCrash> starkruzr I agree, that it's silly you have to do that, I don't understand why it's not attached
[04:01] <M_42> helllo I am having problems getting my monitor to turn off
[04:02] <M_42> when it is idle
[04:02] <usser> starkruzr: security security
[04:02] <chatnoir> setup the xorg file
[04:02] <winter-mute> hi i am trying to install ethreal, but it installs only docs
[04:02] <MajorPayne> orbin: Ahh, thanks.  You are a life saver.  Mounting is cool, but no need to pop up windows (I take media out and insert it all the time).
[04:02] <RobbieCrash> How can I delete and add system users from command line?
[04:02] <winter-mute> how come?
[04:02] <winter-mute> etheral package is broken?
[04:02] <phayro> i have no LAN access on the laptop only wireless, although do have the thumbdrive to install files if needed
[04:02] <starkruzr> usser: that should be taken care of with the fact that you need to sudo the System > Administration > Shared Folders utility.
[04:03] <cafuego> cholera: something like ffmpeg foo.dv -b 512 -ab 128 foo.wmv
[04:03] <starkruzr> essentially, sharing folders with Samba in Feisty is effectively broken.
[04:03] <mlange> anyone have an idea or link that explains how to reload my default top panel in feisty .. i lost it
[04:03] <starkruzr> (if what you're telling me is accurate)
[04:03] <M_42> someone said to make dpms=true in the monitor section of xorg.conf
[04:03] <orbin> MajorPayne: no worries
[04:03] <orbin> Keroman: search the forum while you wait.  i recall that problem being asked in here a couple of times.
[04:03] <wastrel> !adduser | RobbieCrash
[04:03] <ubotu> RobbieCrash: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[04:03] <Fezzler> cables: Yea, screensavers work (but they worked with my on-board graphics card too, so does that prove anything?)
[04:03] <winter-mute> wiresharks seems to be empty too
[04:03] <M_42> Option		"DPMS"  is how it reads now
[04:03] <Keroman> Thanks, orbin
[04:03] <M_42> is this wrong?
[04:03] <Fezzler> cables: just trying to learn
[04:03] <danny3793> Can someone help me with 64 bit Ubuntu problems i am having
[04:03] <cables> Fezzler, I'm not sure then...
[04:03] <winter-mute> i am not a noob, but maybe someone can point the right way
[04:04] <cables> !ask | danny3793
[04:04] <ubotu> danny3793: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:04] <usser> starkruzr: yea i agree with u samba configuration is a pain, to think of it i dont know why it has to be so complicated
[04:04] <danny3793> ok :P, well i have been for 2 days now, trying to install Ubuntu onto my machine
[04:04] <danny3793> It is an Acer which has Vista on it
[04:04] <cholera> cafuego: I'm looking at the ffmpeg site right now, is there an app that I could use that is not cli?
[04:04] <MorningWood> this is a stupid question, but on average.....how long does it take for a kernel update to come out?
[04:04] <danny3793> and Vista is just RAPING my system, It cant do anything but run itself
[04:04] <Fezzler> Cables: Thanks for trying.  Is it appropriate for me to post the question again?  New to irc too.
[04:04] <cables> danny3793, you should use the 32-bit version of Ubuntu rather than the 64-bit version.
[04:05] <zerokill88> Anyone use Bledner?
[04:05] <Zoffix> Hi, how can I mount some directory on another computer via network? I remember doing something like `sudo mount 10.0.0.2:/home/zoffx /mnt/zoffix` but now it gives me "Permission Denied".
[04:05] <zerokill88> Blender?
[04:05] <phayro> Hi all, linux newbie here.  I have just installed the "edgy" distro on my cf48 laptop.  trying to get wireless to work.  linksys card seems to be recognized as eth0
[04:05] <danny3793> Why shouldnt i use the 64bit version?
[04:05] <cafuego> danny3793: Does the machine have 2GB of ram or more?
[04:05] <cables> Fezzler, you should wait a few minutes (5-10)
[04:05] <danny3793> i have a 64bit AMD
[04:05] <cables> danny3793, less software and driver support
[04:05] <moonunit> i could used directed to the page about restricted formats
[04:05] <Shoeb> Is there a tutorial to setup RAID during intstall? lol
[04:05] <cables> zerokill88, yep
[04:05] <gerry_> hello, ubuntu howto find modules when type modprobe?
[04:05] <danny3793> no i have 1GB, i tried to add another 512MB, but my MotherBoard is picky as hell when it comes to RAM
[04:05] <Gruelius> i cant compile apps, ive emerged build-essential however i still get this error  You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build.
[04:05] <usser> Zoffix: is that a windows comp u trying to mount remotely?
[04:05] <danny3793> i just bought this computer the other day
[04:05] <noiesmo> Zoffix, try with sudo mount blah blah
[04:05] <jrib> Bitmess: I don't know, but I would have backups anyway
[04:05] <zerokill88> cables do you know if there is an irc channel for it? i need some help
[04:05] <starkruzr> let's see if this works now
[04:05] <yargh> Is there any way to unmount the ubuntu live CD so that I can burn another CD?
[04:05] <winter-mute> anyone can point where i can get ethereal package for ubuntu?
[04:05] <danny3793> and im trying to get the most out of my CPU by getting a 64 bit OS
[04:06] <cafuego> Return vista, ask for an OS that works ;-)
[04:06] <jrib> winter-mute: it's called "wireshark" now
[04:06] <cables> zerokill88, #blender, but you need to be registered with nickserv
[04:06] <Zoffix> noiesmo, I did what I've said and it gave me what I've said
[04:06] <Fezzler> cables: Thanks.  Will do.  I just want to make sure I have right nvidia driver installed before I install Beyrl
[04:06] <winter-mute> jrib: but there is no gui version
[04:06] <cein> probably not yargh
[04:06] <moonunit> i need help with .mp3 files
[04:06] <winter-mute> jrib: is there gtk version?
[04:06] <zerokill88> cables ok thanks
[04:06] <cein> but i dont' know
[04:06] <MorningWood> on average, how long does it take for a kernel update to come out?
[04:06] <zerokill88> !register
[04:06] <Zoffix> usser, no, I am on Ubuntu Fiesty and I am trying to mount Ubuntu Edgy
[04:06] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:06] <ziroday> yargh: unless you hav 2 cd drives no
[04:06] <PreviousN> hello? Hi...Im a recent ubuntu user. I've got ubuntu w/windows in dual boot on my laptop. I've got beryl installed/etc. It looks really reallly nice...but... I get about 6 hours of battery life on the windows side but only about 3 on ubuntu.
[04:06] <noiesmo> winter-mute, its called white shark
[04:06] <Fezzler> How do I activate the cube on the desktop?
[04:06] <cafuego> danny3793: If you're going to be mainly doing desktop stuff (web/email/video/audio) go with 32bit Ubuntu.
[04:06] <danny3793> XP 64bit is for Intel only, and 64Bit vista, well i dont want vista again ;), so now im trying to get Ubuntu
[04:06] <winter-mute> noiesmo: many thanks!
[04:06] <mlange> danny ... i'm running vista and ubuntu 64 just fine ... what is your question?
[04:06] <usser> Zoffix: ubuntu edgy shared with samba?
[04:06] <usser> Zoffix: or NFS?
[04:06] <cables> danny3793, 32-bit linux is better than 64-bit right now, due to greater driver and software support (Flash, for instance, is only for 32-bit)
[04:06] <hrp2171> Greetings, Fellow Ubuntuans
[04:06] <cholera> phayro: have you looked into whether or not you card is supported, you can use the restricted modules or a driver wrapper if that is the case
[04:06] <Bitmess> jrib, thanks for your help!
[04:06] <danny3793> im going to be doing a range of things with Ubuntu
[04:07] <anandanbu> how do i install windows xp through vmware in Ubuntu 7.04
[04:07] <noiesmo> winter-mute, wireshark sorry
[04:07] <cables> Fezzler, System>Preferences>Desktop Effects
[04:07] <danny3793> alright, well my problem is that im getting the screen error
[04:07] <Zoffix> usser, hm, how can I find out. I don't remember TBH. I believe it's NFS
[04:07] <cafuego> cables: Well, nspluginwrapper works fine actually.
[04:07] <PreviousN> does anyone here have an idea how i can increase my battery life???
[04:07] <meowarrior> cables, with care you can run all 32 bit apps on 64 bit
[04:07] <danny3793> when i attempt to install 64bit
[04:07] <danny3793> its telling me it has a problem with the X Server settings
[04:07] <cafuego> PreviousN: turn the machine off
[04:07] <hrp2171> anandanbu: funny you ask that, im here to ask about virtualbox. :)
[04:07] <winter-mute> oh
[04:07] <jrib> winter-mute: wireshark is gui
[04:07] <M_42> anyone know how to get your backlight on your lcd to turn off?
[04:07] <Fezzler> cables: done.  how do I test it (see app in cube?)
[04:07] <danny3793> but im just going to try and install the 32bit 7.04
[04:07] <danny3793> and hope that works
[04:07] <cables> meowarrior, he's a linux newbie, that stuff is way to complex
[04:07] <mlange> what cpu are you running and what graphics card?
[04:07] <cables> Fezzler, switch desktops or ctrl-alt-drag
[04:07] <phayro> cholera no, i was looking for a direction to go, new to ubuntu and linux.  the network manager that comes on the install seems to think the card is there
[04:07] <winter-mute> noiesmo: oh i see. i thought it was some pre-requisite package for ethereal :)
[04:07] <Keroman> Looking for some help with Ubuntu FF 7.04 that won't load the whole desktop correctly if any can help.
[04:07] <winter-mute> noiesmo: cool got it goin'
[04:07] <cafuego> danny3793: It will be fine; only issue you might encournter is wifi support.
[04:08] <usser> Zoffix: yea NFS
[04:08] <PreviousN> i've got ati radion 9200 and pentium m 1.6
[04:08] <winter-mute> super duper help
[04:08] <danny3793> what do you mean wifi support :S
[04:08] <jrib> Keroman: what do you mean exactly?
[04:08] <moonunit> i need help with rhythm box, and getting it to play mp3 files
[04:08] <danny3793> i am currently on a WiFi connection with a netgear wireless card
[04:08] <phayro> have the windows drivers on cd if i could get assist installing NDISwrapper
[04:08] <gerry_> modprobe howto find modules?  any paths setup configure?
[04:08] <Zoffix> mount: 10.0.0.2://home/zoffix failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
[04:08] <usser> Zoffix: but it has to be shared first for u to be able to mount
[04:08] <usser> Zoffix: thats because its not shared
[04:08] <jrib> moonunit: on feisty?
[04:08] <cafuego> danny3793: wifi support under Linux can be iffy; it completely depends on the card's chipset.
[04:08] <moonunit> jrib: 7.0
[04:08] <cables> danny3793, Wi-FI drivers are a big problem with Linux... if yours works, great, if not, come back here for help.
[04:09] <Zoffix> usser, I did mount it before I reinstalled Ubuntu on this box and I didn't change anything on the box I am trying to mount :/
[04:09] <danny3793> alright
[04:09] <jrib> moonunit: go to places -> Home and double click on an mp3
[04:09] <phayro> cholera the card is linksys 802.11g wpc54g
[04:09] <hrp2171> i just installed virtual box, the gui is up, and created my first vm, but i keep getting the following error: Make sure that the current user has write permissions to /dev/vboxdrv by adding it to the vboxusers group.
[04:09] <cholera> phayro: get the specs on your card (chipset) check to see if it is supported, if it is, then you can use linux drivers, if not you will need something like ndiswrapper,
[04:09] <danny3793> so basically i should try out the WiFi on the LiveCD first before doing anything drastic right :P
[04:09] <Keroman> jrib: The laptop boots up and puts me through the login screen, but after that it only loads the basic wallpaper and the mouse and not the white bars at the top and bottom or any icons.
[04:09] <noiesmo> moonunit, think you need  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[04:09] <hrp2171> i've already added my user account to that group, though
[04:09] <anandanbu> can someone help me to install the VMware server on Feisty.
[04:09] <jrib> Keroman: does it happen with a fresh new user?
[04:09] <cafuego> phayro: the v2 one?
[04:09] <TraceGreen> Hello, Can ubuntu run on Intel's DQ965WC motherboard? or where can i get the list of motherboard ubuntu supported?
[04:09] <danny3793> i do want to say though, that i have used 32bit ubuntu on another computer of mine, and the WiFi worked ont hat one
[04:09] <cafuego> phayro: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/feisty-cafuego/bcm43xx/
[04:10] <danny3793> and it had the same exact card as i do in this one
[04:10] <zerokill88> cables is #blender on freenode?
[04:10] <usser> Zoffix: oh
[04:10] <phayro> cholera ok i will look, cafuego it is ver 1.2
[04:10] <danny3793> so do you think that should apply to mycomputer?
[04:10] <cafuego> danny3793: easy then :-)
[04:10] <danny3793> alrighty :D
[04:10] <darnell> everytime i load up k3b It tells me I need a decoder to burn or make cds with mp3's?
[04:10] <mlange> my question : I have lost my top edge panel and can't figure out how to restore it ... anyone know how to load it back to default?
[04:10] <danny3793> im just gonna go with 32bit
[04:10] <Keroman> jrib: Yeah, this is my first time attempting to run any form of Linux.  I first installed it last night several times, then today I re-burned the .iso, reinstalled it, and it's doing the same thing.
[04:10] <darnell> where do i find this decoder?
[04:10] <Fezzler> cables:  no cube  :(
[04:10] <danny3793> im sure the performance will be very noticable
[04:10] <jrib> Keroman: hmm, you sure the install completed without error?
[04:10] <danny3793> as Vista is just flat out a polished turd
[04:10] <danny3793> lol
[04:10] <PreviousN> honestly, could someone pm me with ideas about how to increase battery life? i'm a college student and take notes with my laptop. The battery life issue is prohibiting me from running ubuntu.
[04:10] <cafuego> danny3793: with 1GB it'll fly
[04:10] <phayro> cholera what is the best place to check if linux drivers exist for my card
[04:10] <Zoffix> usser, could it be my firewall? I can't find any tool for it though (except iptables, not GUI)
[04:10] <moonunit> noiesmo: i just reinstalled ubuntu, i need to get mp3 to work in rhythmbox, and video files to play, could i trouble you for a sudo-apt get line?
[04:11] <cables> zerokill88, yeah
[04:11] <usser> Zoffix: unlikely
[04:11] <danny3793> i cant even play a game, but yet i have a nVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405 chipset
[04:11] <Keroman> jrib: During the initial load the of the LiveCD it had a few errors, but the GUI installation goes off without a hitch.
[04:11] <phayro> cafuego what do you think?
[04:11] <jrib> moonunit: why wouldn't you do it the easy way?
[04:11] <PreviousN> I've tried everything- laptopmode, etc, messing with speedstep, compiling my own kernel...etc!!
[04:11] <moonunit> jrib: im all ears
[04:11] <jrib> Keroman: and it never logged in completely?
[04:11] <danny3793> im going to have to check if that chipset is even available, i sure hope that chipset is compliant
[04:11] <jrib> moonunit: go to places -> Home and double click on an mp3
[04:11] <danny3793> lemme go check
[04:11] <usser> Zoffix: i dunno
[04:11] <cafuego> phayro: I have one too, it uses abcm4306 chipset, which works fine with the firmware at the url I just pasted.
[04:12] <phayro> cafuego i dont see url
[04:12] <Keroman> jrib: I can put in my username and password, the Ubuntu splash comes up, plays the startup noise, and disappears, then the wallpaper and mouse show up, but nothing else.
[04:12] <usser> Zoffix: maybe your comp that provides the share is setup to let access to users with a certain username
[04:12] <danny3793> i have one more question
[04:12] <noiesmo> moonunit,  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[04:12] <cholera> phayro: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=136 has alot of good info, I hate doing that, but there is a lot of good info
[04:12] <vfx> Need help getting new disks to mount, anyone free to help?
[04:12] <usser> Zoffix: and when u installed feisty u changed that username that used to access?
[04:12] <danny3793> to even play a game or use any app that ran on windows (not C# apps) would i NEED cadega?
[04:12] <jrib> Keroman: weird, is there anything in ~/.xsession-errors (do you know how to check?)
[04:12] <phayro> cholera thanks i will look
[04:12] <danny3793> and if so is there anyway to tell how exactly that all works?
[04:12] <noiesmo> darnell, sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[04:12] <usser> danny3793: most of them work with wine
[04:12] <Zoffix> usser, hm, could be, since I used to have "zoffix" as host and now it is "zoffer"..
[04:13] <danny3793> because ive never actually gotten to installing Ubuntu fully onto one of my PCs before
[04:13] <Fezzler> How do I confirm I installed the right driver for my new nvidia Geforce 5500 AGP?
[04:13] <phayro> cafuego: so how do get it going then?
[04:13] <ziroday> danny3793: no there is free Wine and paid crossover office
[04:13] <hrp2171> hmm, i just got an idea of what to try.  bbl
[04:13] <Keroman> jrib: I unfortunately don't know how to check.  Any place I can look that up?  I don't want to bother you too much while you're helping others.
[04:13] <cholera> phayro: there is also a link for supported cards
[04:13] <jrib> danny3793: there is wine or you can run windows in a virtual machine
[04:13] <PreviousN> vfx: what are you trying to mount?
[04:13] <Zoffix> usser, is there any way to do it via SSH (to add that host access) since I can `ssh` to that box, just not mount.
[04:13] <danny3793> ok, so all i need to do is download Wine, and hope the programs i try to move over will comply?
[04:13] <danny3793> ohhh
[04:13] <danny3793> windows in virtual machine
[04:13] <danny3793> i like your thinking ;)
[04:13] <PreviousN> hard drives? smb shares?
[04:13] <danny3793> ill have to figure out how to do that
[04:14] <danny3793> im not sure if i have a XP CD laying around anywhere if thats even how a virtual machine works lmao
[04:14] <danny3793> if not XP home edition is running at only $90
[04:14] <usser> Zoffix: i know very little about NFS
[04:14] <danny3793> if i run a virtual machine can i use C# with it?
[04:14] <Pelo> !realplayer
[04:14] <danny3793> C# apps taht is
[04:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:14] <jrib> Keroman: no bother, you can hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a terminal (ctrl-alt-f7 brings you back to X).  Then login and 'less ~/.xsession-errors' without quotes.  PageDown/PageUp to scroll and 'q' to quit
[04:14] <usser> Zoffix: take a look at this tutorial http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html
[04:14] <vfx> I have a JBOD with 5x 750GB drives
[04:14] <Zoffix> Thanks.
[04:14] <vfx> All partitioned w/ gparted
[04:14] <jrib> danny3793: do you know about mono?
[04:14] <vfx> 4 primary, one extended
[04:15] <danny3793> no
[04:15] <danny3793> i dont lol
[04:15] <M_42> can anyone help me force my LCD to turn off when my computer is idle?  settings in power management don't work
[04:15] <jrib> danny3793: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software%29
[04:15] <HtBeast> how do I reload the volume control thing that's usually by the clock in the top right?
[04:16] <danny3793> first thing that came to mind when you said mono was the sickness mono Lmao
[04:16] <Fezzler> after installing nvidia card and driver, I noticed I lost window re-sizing capability. ????
[04:16] <phayro> cafuego:  did you update the firmware?
[04:16] <ziroday> M_42: mine does it automatically
[04:16] <cables> My friend keeps having a message that his X and Gnome keyboard settings don't match... how can he get rid of that?
[04:16] <danny3793> im glad to see MS is actually allowing .NET apps to come near Linux
[04:16] <danny3793> Lol
[04:16] <jrib> cables: it should offer the option to not show the message again
[04:17] <moonunit> that did not solve my issue with rhythmbox
[04:17] <jrib> danny3793: "allow"
[04:17] <vfx> Can anyone help me to mount drives from a jbod
[04:17] <jrib> !ipod > vfx (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:17] <M_42> worksforme!
[04:17] <jrib> vfx: wait, what's a jbod?
[04:17] <moonunit> !mp3 > moonunit
[04:17] <vfx> just a bunch of drives
[04:18] <M_42> !worksforme >ziroday
[04:18] <vfx> not a raid
[04:18] <jrib> moonunit: did you install the packages it prompted you about when you double clicked?
[04:18] <M_42> anyone know how to force a lcd monitor to turn its backlight off?
[04:18] <jrib> M_42: I use  /etc/acpi/screenblank.sh
[04:19] <anandanbu> after installing the kde in ubuntu both kde and gnome applications shows up in gnome is there any way to change that
[04:19] <danny3793> i dont see a download on the Mono site for ubuntu
[04:19] <Keroman> jrib: Okay, here's what I've got.  "[1402.384000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.  [1527.200000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed."
[04:19] <jrib> Keroman: is that all of it?
[04:19] <p47> hello I've a Inted pentium D inside, wich version of festy I should to download ?
[04:19] <danny3793> or do i only have to download the "Linux Installer for x86" since i will be running a 32bit OS
[04:20] <Keroman> jrib There's some stuff before that but it just looks like login and session info.
[04:20] <Keroman> jrib: I can type it out but there's quite a bit.
[04:20] <p47> hello I've a Intel pentium D inside, wich version of festy I should to download or install ?
[04:20] <jrib> danny3793: mono is packaged, use your favorite package manager (the runtime is installed by default btw)
[04:20] <usser> p47: i386
[04:21] <Samus_Aran> does anyone know why Ubuntu no longer has Mozilla available ?
[04:21] <M_42> jrib, do you know how to force the lcd's backlight off after you go idle?
[04:21] <danny3793> jrib: what do you mean use my fave. package manager? and do you mean the runtime is included with Ubuntu?
[04:21] <jrib> Keroman: run this:  cat ~/.xsession-errors | netcat jrib.dyndns.org 12345
[04:21] <danny3793> so i dont have to even download it
[04:21] <Dremth> Does anyone know what can make my wireless connection more stable? it seems that I always get disconnected from my network and cant get connected again. I can disable and enable my wireless connection using ifdown and ifup but that doesn't seem to do anything. I have to end up restarting to get it to work again. Any ideas on what to do??
[04:21] <Samus_Aran> on Feisty Fawn there is no longer a package "mozilla-browser" or any other package for the Mozilla suite
[04:21] <crimsun> Samus_Aran: because firefox is available.
[04:21] <nn-main> good question jrib
[04:21] <p47> usser: thank's
[04:21] <Samus_Aran> crimsun: they are two different products
[04:21] <opticnerv> hey guys I'm running ubuntu live but my resolution is to low to click on the next buttons on the installation screen. Is there anyway to install through the terminal ?
[04:22] <jrib> !software > danny3793 (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:22] <IntangibleLiquid> after turning off printer services [cupsys and hplip]  and turning on alsa util my system went mute. What's wrong?
[04:22] <p47> usser: how I can know wich version of festy I'm runing ?
[04:22] <Keroman> jrib Err.  It's not plugged into ethernet at the moment.  I'd have to go into the other room for that.
[04:22] <Samus_Aran> crimsun: Firefox has no Mozilla Composer, etc. and the browser itself is substantially different
[04:22] <crimsun> Samus_Aran: I know, but you asked why.
[04:22] <danny3793> alright, will look at it, thanks jrib :P
[04:22] <Samus_Aran> crimsun: so it has intentionally been removed from Ubuntu ?
[04:22] <crimsun> Samus_Aran: yes.
[04:22] <jrib> M_42: system > preferences > power management
[04:22] <opticnerv> hey guys I'm running ubuntu live but my resolution is to low to click on the next buttons on the installation screen. Is there anyway to install through the terminal ?
[04:23] <p47> usser: I mean, I've festy, but I need to download some programs but it says ubuntu x86 or ubuntu 64 bits, so I need to know wich version of ubuntu is working on my machine !
[04:23] <crimsun> Samus_Aran: keep in mind that iceape now generates it in Debian.
[04:23] <jrib> opticnerv: well you could use the alternate cd
[04:23] <ziroday> opticnerv: what card?
[04:23] <Samus_Aran> crimsun: what is iceape ?
[04:23] <M_42> jrib, I tried that, is there a way to force it?
[04:23] <cables> p47, what CD did you download?
[04:23] <jrib> M_42: is that not working?
[04:23] <opticnerv> onboard graphics card but its a gforce 2
[04:23] <wastrel> opticnerv:  you can use alt + click anywhere on the window  to reposition the window so you can see the buttons
[04:24] <M_42> jrib, well it turns the screen off but the backlight is still burning
[04:24] <usser> p47: uname -a
[04:24] <Keroman> jrib Hmm.. those errors kept coming up while I was turned away from my laptop, and now I can't enter anything in the console, it just says (END)
[04:24] <jrib> Keroman: hmm I doubt that that would make your panels not work.  Can you create a new user just to see if there is a difference?  'sudo adduser my_new_username'
[04:24] <opticnerv> wastrel alt+click worked thanks !
[04:24] <XLV_feisty> p47, get cpu-z, if it says your cpu has emt-64 download the 64bit version of ubuntu, else the 32bit
[04:24] <scarter> i'm considering adding some additional repos, but don't know where to check and see if they're safe/reliable. Any one know of a place where I can check/read any reviews?
[04:24] <jrib> Keroman: press 'q'
[04:24] <phayro> cafuego:  are you still here?
[04:24] <jrib> M_42: does the command I gave you do what you want?
[04:24] <cables> p47, don't use the 64bit version of Ubuntu, the driver and software support is really bad.
[04:24] <usser> p47: if it says somewhere along the lines x86_64 then u got 64bit version
[04:24] <Keroman> jrib: Ah, thanks, sorry for being such a Linux-noob :P
[04:24] <mistone> join #ubuntustudio
[04:24] <mistone> GAH
[04:24] <mistone> lol!
[04:24] <M_42> I tried running it but nothing happend
[04:25] <M_42> :C
[04:25] <M_42> jrib, i did try running it but nothing happened
[04:25] <p47> cables, usser ,XLV_feisty  ok let me download the cpu program
[04:25] <usser> p47: oh lol u havent installed ubuntu yet?
[04:25] <XLV_feisty> cables, whats bad about support of 64bit version?
[04:25] <jrib> M_42: hmm that's probably why the power management doesn't work either
[04:26] <Samus_Aran> crimsun: I looked up iceape, thank you
[04:26] <obiwan_> hallo! ekiga doesn't work for me in combination with isight-cam... please help!!
[04:26] <p47> usser: yes I have ubuntu festy now but I had a edgy was just a update !
[04:26] <Dremth> Does anyone know what can make my wireless connection more stable? it seems that I always get disconnected from my network and cant get connected again. I can disable and enable my wireless connection using ifdown and ifup but that doesn't seem to do anything. I have to end up restarting to get it to work again. Any ideas on what to do??
[04:26] <usser> p47: download ubuntu i386 it'll save a lot time hassle!
[04:26] <M_42> jrib, what would cause this do you have any ideas
[04:26] <M_42> :C
[04:26] <Keroman> jrib: Okay, new user's created, how do I log out or do I just reboot?
[04:27] <usser> Keroman: no rebooting, just log out
[04:27] <usser> Keroman: of gnome session
[04:27] <jrib> Keroman: now you should be able to go to ctrl-alt-f7 and log back in.  If you are stuck in the broken login for the other user, you can hit ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X
[04:27] <Samus_Aran> crimsun: I didn't know that Mozilla was dumping the Mozilla Suite.  do you know if there were any plans by them to write a stand-alone app for Mozilla Composer to go along with Firefox and Thunderbird ?
[04:27] <XLV_feisty> Dremth, tried changing channels?
[04:27] <danny3793> ok i think what you are reffering to jrib, are you saying that once i get on Linux i just need to download either a deb or tarball or gzip or w.e?
[04:27] <p47> cables, usser ,XLV_feisty : I can't tu run the cpu -z command
[04:27] <danny3793> i think i know*
[04:27] <crimsun> Samus_Aran: I don't track Mozilla.
[04:27] <p47> cables, usser ,XLV_feisty : ERROR: /etc/cpu/cpu.conf:9: syntax error
[04:27] <Will404[2] > hey guys
[04:28] <jrib> deshi: no, you don't need to download anything, you use the package manager: system > administration > synaptic
[04:28] <XLV_feisty> p47, cpu-z is a windows program, i assumed you havent installed a linux distrib yet
[04:28] <danny3793> in terms of the package things you were describing earlier
[04:28] <Will404[2] > How can I take ownership of something in feisty fawn
[04:28] <Samus_Aran> crimsun: no problem.  thanks for the help
[04:28] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, to what?
[04:28] <Keroman> jrib: A-haha!  It's alive!
[04:28] <p47> ha ok
[04:28] <jrib> Keroman: new user works?
[04:28] <p47> cables, usser ,XLV_feisty : ha ok in msdos ?
[04:28] <usser> p47: do uname -a
[04:28] <obiwan_> calsh
[04:28] <Will404[2] > How can I take ownership of something in feisty fawn
[04:28] <Keroman> jrib: Yeah.  Wonder why the original setup didn't.  Oh well. Thanks a bunch!
[04:28] <XLV_feisty> p47, no, windows as in ms windows xp
[04:28] <cjae> how do I purge wine off my box again??
[04:28] <usser> p47: open a terminal and type in uname -a
[04:28] <jrib> Will404[2] : what something?
[04:28] <Will404[2] > A folder
[04:28] <usser> cjae: sudo dpkg --purge wine
[04:28] <Will404[2] > That I want to delete
[04:29] <cjae> usser, thanks
[04:29] <Will404[2] > in /etc/vmware
[04:29] <jrib> M_42: no not really, you can try reading the .sh script and see what it does.  Then google for those commands
[04:29] <p47> usser: I got this : 1:28 < jrib> Keroman: new user works?
[04:29] <p47> 21:28 < p47> cables, usser ,XLV_feisty : ha ok in msdos ?
[04:29] <p47> 21:28 < usser> p47: do uname -a
[04:29] <p47> 21:28 < obiwan_> calsh
[04:29] <p47> 21:28 -!- fastlikeacat [n=fastlike@24-205-47-252.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com]  has
[04:29] <p47>           quit [Client Quit] 
[04:29] <p47> 21:28 < Will404[2] > How can I take ownership of something in feisty fawn
[04:29] <p47> 21:28 < Keroman> jrib: Yeah.  Wonder why the original setup didn't.  Oh well.
[04:29] <p47>                  Thanks a bunch!
[04:29] <M_42> thanks
[04:29] <phayro> ok new question is there a way to get ndiswrapper on my machine other than ehternet, i dont have a hard wire,  i have cdrom floppy and thumbdrive
[04:29] <p47> 21:28 < XLV_feisty> p47, no, windows as in ms windows xp
[04:29] <phayro> real linux noob here
[04:29] <noelferreira_> how can i make my computer shuts down by any user?
[04:29] <Will404[2] > Press the power button
[04:30] <p47> usser: Linux xps 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:30] <noelferreira_> how can i make my computer shuts down by any user?
[04:30] <rscow> Can anyone help me with a problem editing /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[04:30] <HymnToLife> noelferreira_, graphically or with the command line ?
[04:30] <usser> p47: u have ubuntu for i386 cpus
[04:30] <obiwan_> p47> sorry, what does it mean: calsh?
[04:30] <noelferreira_> command line HymnToLife
[04:30] <HymnToLife> rscow, not unless you ask a more specific question
[04:30] <usser> p47: no 64 bit support
[04:31] <HymnToLife> noelferreira_, just give them sudo right on the shutdown command
[04:31] <XLV_feisty> Dremth, changing channels into wireless router/ap and wireless card
[04:31] <J> algum Br ai?
[04:31] <XLV_feisty> p47, dmesg | grep -i cpu and see what cpu kernel finds
[04:31] <noelferreira_> /usr/bin/sudo shutdown -h now     . i need that any user can perform this command HymnToLife
[04:31] <jrib> !br | J
[04:31] <ubotu> J: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:31] <jwcacces> Hello, I have a 8 way dual-core smp system, that makes 16 cpus, however the kernel I am running has NR_CPUS set at 8. Is there a precompiled-prepackaged kernel available, or do I have to roll my own?
[04:31] <sdf> how can i combine the translation for any filme with it???
[04:31] <rscow> okay, I want to add a splash screen.  in the line where you point to your image, I am not sure what to enter for (hdx,y).  My ubuntu partition is on sda3
[04:32] <sdf> film*
[04:32] <HymnToLife> noelferreira_, edit the sudoers file then ;)
[04:32] <Tido> how do I get out of this unending chain of "unmet dependencies": librsvg2-dev: Depends: libgtk2.0-dev (>= 2.8.17-1) but it is not going to be installed
[04:32] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, I know I need to go to a channel that is about that but I don't know what it's called. Could you be a little more specific? Like a channel name?
[04:32] <p47> usser: I got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20439/
[04:32] <noelferreira_> HymnToLife: it is in a scrip that i use for my remote control and vdr with satelite tv and i need that power button sthuts down  my pc HymnToLife
[04:33] <p47> XLV_feisty: I got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20439/
[04:33] <noelferreira_> HymnToLife: can you be more specific? where is that file and what should i do?
[04:33] <jrib> Tido: have you added any unofficial repositories?
[04:33] <XLV_feisty> Dremth, no, wireless channels, maybe the one you are using is used by some neighbor of yours
[04:33] <Tido> jrib, yes
[04:33] <rscow> HymnToLife:  I'm running feisty on a macbook pro, but that shouldnt matter, I think
[04:33] <noelferreira_> HymnToLife: can i make chmod 666 /usr/bin/shutdown ? will it work
[04:33] <HymnToLife> noelferreira_, what does the power button have to do with the command-line ?
[04:33] <HymnToLife> noelferreira_, no
[04:33] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, I guarantee it's not.
[04:33] <jrib> Tido: which ones?
[04:33] <usser> p47: thats i386 cpu
[04:34] <noelferreira_> power button of my remote control HymnToLife
[04:34] <Tido> jrib, I put in some for cairo
[04:34] <HymnToLife> oh, I see
[04:34] <noelferreira_> HymnToLife: it is in a scrip that i use for my remote control and vdr with satelite tv and i need that power button sthuts down  my pc
[04:34] <jrib> Tido: that's usually what causes these things
[04:34] <danny3793> ok
[04:34] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, The same exact wireless connection with the same exact settings works perfectly in Windows XP (and Vista)
[04:34] <p47> usser: ok
[04:34] <Tido> jrib, I've removed the lines in my sources.list, how can I get things kosher again?
[04:34] <p47> usser: thank's !
[04:34] <noelferreira_> HymnToLife: i mean remote control power button that performs the action
[04:34] <usser> p47: np
[04:34] <happyguy> hello, anybody here who can help me with apt-get not updating (i have tried different sources.list files)
[04:35] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, I'm actually surprised I've stayed on this chat this long.
[04:35] <dancingmonkey> I would like to upgrade from LTS to 7.04, can I boot the LTS cd and ftp install 7.04? I have no cd burner, and plan on a freash install.
[04:35] <danny3793> this is weird
[04:35] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, My wireless usually cuts out around this amount of use
[04:35] <danny3793> lmao, im on my computers brand website trying to find drivers to update my stuff
[04:35] <danny3793> and and theres only one Vista update, the rest is for Xp
[04:35] <Pelo> Dremth,  you're one of us now you can never leave
[04:35] <danny3793> o.o
[04:35] <HymnToLife> noelferreira_, then add a line like this in /etc/sudoers :      %remote mfb     ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD : /sbin/shutdown
[04:35] <usser> danny3793: haha good luck
[04:35] <XLV_feisty> Dremth, you are using ndiswrapper, or native linux drivers?
[04:35] <danny3793> should i get em anyhow?
[04:35] <gerry_> hello
[04:35] <meowarrior> why is it that 'ln -s somefile ~/.somefile' makes a link from ~/.somefile to ~/somefile?
[04:36] <usser> danny3793: finding one for linux
[04:36] <jrib> Tido: you have to see what got installed.  Check libgtk2.0-dev with:  apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-dev
[04:36] <HymnToLife> noelferreira_, then all users in the remote group will be able to sudo shutdown
[04:36] <HymnToLife> you can change the name of the group to something else if you want, of course
[04:36] <Dremth> Pelo, lol
[04:36] <jrib> meowarrior: because your cwd is ~?
[04:36] <danny3793> nah
[04:36] <Tido> thanks jrib
[04:36] <p47> usser: my dude was that, ok now I have festy but I did knew if the plataform was correct for my proccesor
[04:36] <XLV_feisty> p47, from what i can gather, your cpu doesnt have emt-64 support, so you cant run 64bit version of ubuntu anyway
[04:36] <danny3793> im trying to get some stuff done whilei  wait for x86 Ubuntu to download
[04:36] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, Native (I'm pretty sure). I don't think I could get ndiswrapper to work.
[04:36] <danny3793> im getting the 6.06LTS version
[04:36] <gerry_> i have two kvm.ko modules in /lib/modules/2.6.21.1/ dir, when type modprobe kvm,   which modules is inserted to kernel?
[04:36] <danny3793> and not 7.04
[04:36] <meowarrior> jrib no CWD isn't ~. somefile is in a directory
[04:37] <p47> XLV_feisty: ok thank's that is that I wanted to know !
[04:37] <p47> XLV_feisty: thank's !
[04:37] <danny3793> plus, i cant even see what to download for my nforce
[04:37] <obiwan_> p47> sorry, what does it mean: calsh?
[04:37] <danny3793> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[04:37] <wastrel> meowarrior:  use full path
[04:37] <danny3793> what kind of shit is that lol
[04:37] <crdlb> !language | danny3793
[04:37] <p47> obiwan_: mm where did you see that word ?
[04:37] <ubotu> danny3793: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:37] <meowarrior> wastrel, how do i script it then?
[04:37] <jrib> meowarrior: oh right cwd doesn't actually matter.  it just makes a link to "somefile"
[04:37] <XLV_feisty> Dremth, whats the wireless card?
[04:38] <crdlb> danny3793: if you need support for that I think you need feisty
[04:38] <danny3793> !language | crdlb
[04:38] <ubotu> crdlb: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:38] <phayro> ok guys how about this,  i have an airlink 101 card that is recognized as wlan0 now how do i get that puppy to authenticate on the network?
[04:38] <danny3793> o.o
[04:38] <crdlb> or at least feisty's kernel
[04:38] <sswitching> How compatible are external dvd-writers (USB) with linux?
[04:38] <jrib> meowarrior: and since the link is in ~, it points to ~/somefile.  If you move the link it should point to "somefile" in the directory that the link is in
[04:38] <meowarrior> oh! so i just use $PWD
[04:38] <usser> pwd
[04:38] <danny3793> anyhow, which package should i download from the nVidia site? i dont have an Intel, so the Intel Architecture packages wont do me any good
[04:38] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, By saying this I'm sure you will say that it's not good for linux: Netgear WG111v2 USB
[04:38] <danny3793> and the only AMD packages that they have are for 64 bit only
[04:38] <meowarrior> thnx jrib / wastrel
[04:38] <crdlb> danny3793: there are no packages for it
[04:38] <danny3793> my AMD is a 64 bit but im getting a 32bit ubuntu
[04:38] <crdlb> it's integrated into the kernel now
[04:39] <crdlb> but you need feisty
[04:39] <obiwan_> p47: anyway - can you help on ekiga+isight on macbook - no video output ...?
[04:39] <jrib> dancingmonkey: what do you mean by "ftp install"?
[04:39] <danny3793> ok, so i dont need to download my nVidia chipset drivers?
[04:39] <mjc_> hmm, I'm on a mac pro, using a spare sata disk as a bootdisk, and the nvidia driver... seems like I get latency spikes (mouse pausing) when outputting sound.  anyone seen similar?
[04:39] <danny3793> what is feisty?
[04:39] <crdlb> 7.04
[04:39] <Dremth> pwnage
[04:39] <danny3793> OHHH CMON
[04:39] <danny3793> :(
[04:39] <danny3793> 8% already on 6.06
[04:39] <danny3793> LOL
[04:39] <crdlb> dapper is a year old
[04:40] <Dremth> 7.04 is worth the time
[04:40] <dancingmonkey> jrib: I have a computer, my only computer, that has no CD burner, I only have 6.06 CD. I want 7.03. Is there a way I can get 7.03 on here?
[04:40] <py_geek> what's ubuntu's equivalent of a .exe file?
[04:40] <danny3793> alright ill go ahead and get 7.04
[04:40] <danny3793> lol
[04:40] <dancingmonkey> 7.04 rather
[04:40] <jrib> dancingmonkey: upgrade
[04:40] <jrib> !upgrade > dancingmonkey (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:40] <danny3793> i have 6.06 LTS saved on a disc so atleast i already have that
[04:40] <Pelo> py_geek,  there isn't a linux equivalent of an exe file  , what are you tring to do ?
[04:40] <p47> obiwan_: I really would like to help you but I'm a newbie I suppose that you can look in your xorg.conf
[04:40] <p47> obiwan_: sorry !
[04:40] <joshwa> <3 7.04
[04:40] <usser> py_geek: a unix/linux equivalent of an .exe is .out
[04:40] <dancingmonkey> According to ubuntu's site I'd have to install the next version, 6.10, then 7.03.
[04:41] <danny3793> i sure hope they get 64 bit ubuntu working soon
[04:41] <jrib> dancingmonkey: yes
[04:41] <obiwan_> p47: np - thx ;-)
[04:41] <crdlb> yes 6.06>6.10>7.04
[04:41] <danny3793> because i really wanna use my x2 AMD
[04:41] <jrib> danny3793: it's working fine here
[04:41] <noelferreira_> and how can i give users to that group HymnToLife?
[04:41] <usser> py_geek: but linux is capable of running any file as long as its an executable
[04:41] <joshwa> I also am running amd64
[04:41] <Dihydrogen> .deb package is similar to a .msi file (microsoft installer)
[04:41] <meowarrior> my dual core amd really doesn't seem any faster
[04:41] <jrib> happyguy: pastebin your errors
[04:41] <danny3793> i cant get it to install
[04:41] <usser> py_geek: ie if u rename a.out to a and run it its still gonna run
[04:41] <phayro> help! i am so close, my wireless card is wlan0 recognized when i plug it in.  now what?
[04:41] <danny3793> because you need dual core compliant apps
[04:41] <py_geek> pelo: then what are all the application's extensions, such as gimp or gedit?
[04:41] <HymnToLife> noelferreira_, edit /etc/group
[04:41] <dancingmonkey> jrib: I can't just reformat and install directly to 7.04?
[04:41] <Dremth> danny3792, im using 64 bit. The big trouble is getting certain programs to be compatible
[04:41] <danny3793> for you to really notice it
[04:41] <XLV_feisty> Dremth, you might want to check this out its about ndiswrapper installation of your usb wireless http://wawob.blogspot.com/2007/02/install-netgear-wg111v2-usb-device-on.html maybe they work better than native linux drivers
[04:42] <joshwa> true.
[04:42] <danny3793> well i am having X Server problems
[04:42] <crdlb> py_geek: purely for convenience
[04:42] <danny3793> it says it cant find my monitor
[04:42] <crdlb> extensions don't matter
[04:42] <joshwa> but i can't get myself to use 32 bit ubuntu when I can use 64. lol.
[04:42] <happyguy> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20297/
[04:42] <jrib> dancingmonkey: not with the 6.06 cd, but there are some options:
[04:42] <danny3793> which is evident total bull lol
[04:42] <jrib> !install > dancingmonkey (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:42] <crdlb> py_geek: applications themselves don't have extensions
[04:42] <jrib> !enter > danny3793 (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:42] <dancingmonkey> Bandwidth is at a premium.
[04:42] <Pelo> py_geek, you are not in windowsland anymore,  most exectuables will be found  in /bin or /user/bin
[04:42] <mjc_> ah, it's not just sound
[04:42] <mjc_> seems to do it every few seconds
[04:43] <jrib> happyguy: do you use a proxy or have an atypical setup for connecting to the internet?
[04:43] <XLV_feisty> Dremth, i am too using 64bit smp. what programs have you find that are incompatible? whatever has source available is or will be at some point recompiled, for the rest, a 32bit chroot jail is set up
[04:43] <cbs> ok.....API mismatch, kernel module video driver version is different than the xserver video driver version
[04:43] <Pelo> py_geek,  if you are trying to make a launcher you don'T need the full path ,  just use the name of the prog
[04:43] <noelferreira_> HymnToLife: >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 20 <<< don't let me pen the file
[04:43] <py_geek> POLL: how well does wine work? (1-10)
[04:43] <crdlb> cbs: what which nvidia-glx did you install?
[04:43] <cbs> thats the error i am dealing with, comp boots and xserver wont load
[04:44] <happyguy> jrib: i have a transparent proxy, IPcop...
[04:44] <crdlb> nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new ?
[04:44] <danny3793> cbs: are you trying to install 64bit version?
[04:44] <Pelo> py_geek,  ah,   ok you make a luancher   where the command is   "wine /path/to/your/windows/exefile/here"
[04:44] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, Ok, thanks. I'll try that.
[04:44] <cbs> crdlb: i tried the binary one form add remove, then I tried the nvidia official 64 bit driver
[04:44] <HymnToLife> noelferreira_, off to recovery mode then, you should be more careful when pasting text
[04:44] <jrib> happyguy: does it work if you get rid of that?
[04:44] <crdlb> cbs: that was a bad idea
[04:44] <XLV_feisty> if you expect to gain more speed by going to 64bit, it wont happen, at best you get some speedup by the larger registers of x86-64 extensions, but thats minimal
[04:44] <crdlb> you need to uninstall that
[04:45] <cbs> which?
[04:45] <camh> can anyone tell me how to configure mozilla-mplayer not to play audio? I want to use xmms for that.
[04:45] <crdlb> the nvidia.com one
[04:45] <mjc_> XLV_feisty: helps quite a bit when you have more than 3GB RAM
[04:45] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, Well, for one: flash player is incompatible
[04:45] <cbs> o...
[04:45] <danny3793> lol
[04:45] <cbs> i read an article about unlocking nvidia in ubuntu :(
[04:45] <Pelo> G'night folks
[04:45] <happyguy> jrib: a couple more things... (1) i can connect to the sites fine with a browser (2) i can update on the same computer over the same network with a LiveCD (3) when i chmod into my installed system from the LiveCD i can't update
[04:45] <crdlb> cbs: you can run the installer in uninstall mode
[04:45] <cbs> whats the syntax
[04:45] <danny3793> i updated my gfx card with nVidia.com driver too, how should i remove the update?
[04:45] <crdlb> cbs: add --uninstall
[04:45] <crdlb> to whatever you ran
[04:46] <cbs> to the end of the full path?
[04:46] <cbs> oh ok
[04:46] <cbs> ill try that
[04:46] <cbs> brb
[04:46] <danny3793> cbs: i believe you press F6, idk though
[04:46] <danny3793> should i just roll my driver back? so i can get my chipset back to its original software
[04:46] <jrib> happyguy: did it ever work?
[04:46] <noelferreira_> HymnToLife: What you mean off to recovery mode?
[04:47] <happyguy> yeah it worked for several months
[04:47] <happyguy> jrib: it worked for several months
[04:47] <XLV_feisty> mjc_, yes, but few have more than 2GB anyhow.. i only have 1G, a64 x2 3800.. but i installed 64bit just to get the rust of those 64bit registers... i havent used any 64bit os till now ;-)
[04:47] <jrib> happyguy: ok... try renaming sources.list to sources.list.backup, run apt-get update, rename sources.list.backup back to sources.list and run apt-get update again
[04:47] <py_geek> IM BORED! anyone know some cool ubuntu stuff to make me less bored?
[04:47] <happyguy> jrib: ok, i'll try it
[04:48] <wastrel> py_geek:  moon-buggy
[04:48] <danny3793> XLV_feisty, do you notice any diff in the speed?
[04:48] <jrib> happyguy: if that doesn't work, do you use firestarter?
[04:48] <meowarrior> omfg link is uninituitive
[04:48] <py_geek> wastrel: ?
[04:48] <jrib> py_geek: bugs.ubuntu.com get to work :)
[04:48] <XLV_feisty> Dremth, you can run the browser from inside the 32bit chroot jail
[04:48] <wastrel> it's a game
[04:48] <|chiz|> py_geek: VirtualBox
[04:48] <XLV_feisty> danny3793, no, and i dont expect to see any difference
[04:49] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, It just all seems like too much trouble
[04:49] <XLV_feisty> and if i see any difference, it will be through benchmarking, not using the system desktop
[04:49] <danny3793> darn, i cannot rollback my chipset driver, i updated it with the nvidia update, thought that i may have been having problems but it never fixed any lol
[04:50] <irotas> what package do i need to install to provide the codec Totem needs to play WMV files ?
[04:50] <noelferreira_> HymnToLife: please tell me what should i do to the file
[04:51] <jrib> irotas: if you are using feisty, double click on a wmv in nautilus, that should automatically tell you what you need
[04:51] <happyguy> jrib: not that i know of... i used to have tinyproxy on my system (i started with edgy Christian Edition but then upgraded to feisty, and the CE wasn't updated so it broke my net connection so i removed tinyproxy, etc)
[04:51] <happyguy> jrib: it worked fine after that
[04:51] <jrib> happyguy: k
[04:51] <HymnToLife> noelferreira_, you made a mistake in the file so now sudo won't work, you need teo reboot in recovery mode to fix it
[04:51] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, I might get disconnected here in a minute
[04:51] <dancingmonkey> jrib: FromUsbStick is exactly what I needed, thanks!
[04:52] <b_9> how do you tell which version of a file/app you have installed
[04:52] <jrib> happyguy: 'sudo iptables -L' should be empty unless you created your own iptables rules
[04:52] <jrib> b_9: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[04:52] <jrib> !apt > b_9 (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:52] <happyguy> jrib: what's sources.list.d ?
[04:52] <py_geek> ALL:: Should i install kubuntu? how does it run? how much space does it take up? how can i keep KDE applications out of the ubuntu applications menu?
[04:52] <XLV_feisty> !flash>dremth
[04:52] <b_9> thanks jrib
[04:52] <jrib> happyguy: ah, rename that too :)  Basically, you can organize your sources.list by putting more sources.list in that directory
[04:53] <|chiz|> Does anyone know how I would go about fixing the mp3 preview, which plays when you move your mouse over an mp3 in Nautilis?
[04:53] <meowarrior> ln -s $PWD/mydir/ ~/some/other/dir/ <<< what is wrong with this commnad?
[04:53] <XLV_feisty> Dremth, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash it has info on how to run 32bit firefox with a number of ways, apart from 32bit chroot
[04:53] <irotas> jrib: tried that, it says "Video codec 'Windows Media Video 9' is not handled. You may need to install additional plugins ..." .. but it doesn't tell me what to install
[04:53] <jrib> meowarrior: what error do you get?
[04:53] <irotas> jrib: and yes, i'm using feisty
[04:53] <jrib> irotas: hmm, ok
[04:54] <jrib> !restricted > irotas (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:54] <meowarrior> jrib, i get ~/some/other/dir/dir/dir/dir/...../dir
[04:54] <Och4> how do i open a conf file in the terminal, it says i don't have permission, but when i do sudo, it says it can't be found
[04:54] <XLV_feisty> !flash > dremth
[04:54] <jrib> Och4: what command are you using exactly?
[04:54] <phayro> is there a way to command line change the essid and wep key
[04:54] <danny3793> jrib: how exactly is feisty used?
[04:54] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, I got it, thanks
[04:54] <Och4> sudo /blah/blah/blah.conf
[04:54] <jrib> danny3793: what do you mean?  feisty is just a version of ubuntu
[04:54] <Och4> jrib, sudo /blah/blah/blah.conf
[04:55] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, I'm gonna reboot to test the ndiswrapper
[04:55] <|chiz|> phayro: iwconfig
[04:55] <Dremth> XLV_feisty, If it works I'll try the flash thing
[04:55] <jrib> Och4: sudo isn't an editor... try:  gksudo gedit /foo/bar.conf
[04:55] <usser> Och4: sudo gedit /bla/bla.conf
[04:55] <XLV_feisty> Dremth, ok
[04:55] <danny3793> jrib: oh so basically, it just runs itself? and i dont need to do anything other than install Ubuntu and it works alongside?
[04:55] <happyguy> jrib: k my sources.list.d was empty, but i renamed it anyway, still no difference
[04:55] <a5benwillis_> can anyone recomend an easy way to make an image of my newly working ubuntu machine?
[04:55] <phayro> got that part |chiz| but what would the rest of the parameters be?
[04:55] <a5benwillis_> easy being the operative word :)
[04:56] <b_9> anyone use version 0.5 of compiz?
[04:56] <jrib> danny3793: "it" is what in that sentence?
[04:56] <Och4> jrib,usser,  ohhhh nice call. didn't think of that. thanks
[04:56] <|chiz|> phayro: check out the man page, it should tell you what you need
[04:56] <phayro> i have 2 pcmcia cards both seen by machine and trying to get on to work
[04:56] <happyguy> danny3793: "feisty" = 7.04, it's like a version number
[04:56] <phayro> ok so man iwconfig?  newbie here
[04:56] <danny3793> happyguy: oh ok, just wondering what exactly it was :P
[04:56] <|chiz|> phayro: yes, man iwconfig
[04:56] <cbs> ok, i got it back up for the moment.,..lets see if it does 3d accel :P
[04:57] <phayro> thanks
[04:57] <jrib> meowarrior: that command should work fine... what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:57] <happyguy> danny3793: yeah so it's a version you would upgrade to, or install to begin with, not software to run alongside
[04:57] <happyguy> danny3793: :-P
[04:57] <py_geek> ALL:~you HAVE to see this!- http://members.ozemail.com.au/~lbrash/msjokes/msjokes.html
[04:57] <meowarrior> jrib, trying to make a link to a directory obviously
[04:57] <danny3793> happyguy: oh xD, what exactly is the difference between feisty (7.04) and 6.06
[04:57] <obiwan_> what's the best way to backup the whole system on another hd ?
[04:57] <bruenig> obiwan_, dd
[04:57] <meowarrior> screw it! I'm never using ln again, i'll just copy from now on
[04:58] <bruenig> meowarrior, what is your problem with ln
[04:58] <jrib> meowarrior: obviously, but just paste your actual command without the blah stuff
[04:58] <meowarrior> that *is* my actual command
[04:58] <bruenig> symlinks are pretty straight forward
 can you tell me the commands for backup/restore ?
[04:59] <py_geek> THE BEST WINDOWS JOKES PAGE EVER! http://members.ozemail.com.au/~lbrash/msjokes/msjokes.html
[04:59] <py_geek> sorry about caps...
[04:59] <bruenig> obiwan_, is your installation spread out across many partitions?
[04:59] <bruenig> !offtopic | py_geek
[04:59] <jrib> meowarrior: does ~/some/other/dir/ exist?
[04:59] <ubotu> py_geek: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:59] <wastrel> ln -s $PWD/link-target ~/link-name
[04:59] <meowarrior> jrib, tried it both ways (once where it does, and once where only ~/some/other exists)
 no - just one partition
[05:00] <happyguy> danny3793: well one difference is that 6.06 is LTS "Long Term Support" so if you have a mission-critical system you should use that until the next LTS version comes out
[05:00] <bruenig> obiwan_, ok so what is the partition's name and what is the name of the partition of the backup drive
[05:00] <bruenig> obiwan_, by name I mean /dev/something (if you didn't already know)
[05:01] <DudeManJer> Hello anybody available for installation assistance?
[05:01] <bruenig> !anybody | DudeManJer
[05:01] <ubotu> DudeManJer: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:01] <nbbob> can anyone tell me what the ubuntu uses that woukd be comparable to chkconfig
[05:01] <cbs> i had a little baby partition once.....cute little root....untill the accident...now we call him !root
[05:01] <DudeManJer> !anybody
[05:01] <maynards-girl> free socketables:   forum//free
[05:01] <danny3793> happyguy: yeah, i knew the LTS difference, but i mean, what exactly does this "feisty" "difference" do? does it add extra compatibility such as drivers and what not or something?
[05:01] <obiwan_> i want /dev/sda3 backup to /dev/sda2
[05:02] <bieb> I have an  ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe Motherboard that was repaired at ASUS, is there a tool that I can run with the LiveCD (6.06) to test the hardware? I know in Windoze you can run Sandra to test the Mobo and Memory, but I want this to be an Ubuntu box in the long term
[05:02] <maynards-girl> woops...wrong tab in my IM...sorry
[05:02] <bruenig> obiwan_, ok so the command would be "sudo dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sda2"
[05:02] <fsckit> i'm new to mobile phones and bluetooth. could someone tell me what exactly I would need to transfer pics from phone to pc? just a bluetooth adapter?
[05:02] <happyguy> danny3793: yeah it's the next version so it has quite a few more drivers and support for more hardware etc.
[05:02] <nbbob> yes fsckit
[05:02] <|chiz|> I figured out how to get the mp3 previews to work in nautilus, if anyone is interested
[05:02] <cbs> ya spill
[05:02] <jrib> meowarrior: what si your PWD?
[05:03] <DudeManJer> Does anybody know what to do with graphical installation? I want someones comment about before doing the final installation - will my HDD be erased if I make the final installation ?
[05:03] <fsckit> nbbob, does linux and bluetooth phones usually play well together?
[05:03] <danny3793> happyguy: kk, ill lmfao if Ubuntu supports my nVidia nForce chipset better than Vista does
[05:03] <wastrel> nbbob:  i guess /etc/init.d/service [start|stop|restart] 
[05:03] <|chiz|> You just need to install mpg321
[05:03] <|chiz|> thats all.
 ok, fine - and how to restore ?
[05:03] <bruenig> obiwan_, just reverse the if and of
[05:03] <nbbob> thanks wastrel i have tried that but it comes on next reboot
[05:03] <cbs> danny: trust me, it will
[05:04] <nbbob> depends on the bluetooth adapter
[05:04] <cbs> and all that based solely on the fact
[05:04] <cbs> that linux will work when you try to use it
[05:04] <cbs> windows will not
[05:04] <|chiz|> usser: there is a skelleton file that you can work from
[05:04] <happyguy> danny3793: i would search ubuntuforums.org for that, i have no idea
[05:04] <phayro> i need to put ndiswrapper on my unbuntu machine.  I have to do it via thumbdrive  i have the ndiswrapper-1.43.tar.gz file i can see it on the thumbdrive, now what?  noob here
[05:04] <|chiz|> usser: that is true as long as they start and stop they should be fine
[05:04] <dr_willis> phayro,  you proberly want to download the deb packages - not the tar.gz source
[05:05] <bieb> I have an  ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe Motherboard that was repaired at ASUS, is there a tool that I can run with the LiveCD (6.06) to test the hardware? I know in Windoze you can run Sandra to test the Mobo and Memory, but I want this to be an Ubuntu box in the long term
[05:05] <bruenig> usser, yeah I think it needs to accept those parameters as that is how they are called
[05:05] <evilfrog> hi
[05:05] <wastrel> nbbob:  ah, chkconfig is different then, those init scripts only affect yes the currently running processes.
[05:05] <usser> |chiz|: nice so case with "start" stop and such will be fine?
[05:05] <obiwan_> bruening: thank you! is rsync a good choice for backup too ?
[05:05] <cbs> bieb: Memtestx86 on live CD?
[05:05] <wastrel> nbbob:  you want update-rc.d
[05:05] <phayro> dr_willis ok i jsut got this from sourceforge, where should i get the others from
[05:05] <danny3793> i love the fact that my dad thinks Vista is the "pwnage" when it cant even support my nForce chipset correctly, and needs almost 4GB of RAM to even run smoothly, not only that but CPU matters also lol
[05:05] <phayro> real noob just trying to get my linksys card agoin hehe
[05:05] <nbbob> ah thank you I could not remember it
[05:05] <cbs> lol @ consumers lost money
[05:06] <cbs> o wait thats not funny bill
[05:06] <bruenig> usser, you don't even necessarily have to do that seeing as the parameter will be ignored if it isn't mentioned in the script
[05:06] <evilfrog> does anyone know where i can find info about installing ubuntu via debootstrap? (nothing useful in wiki)
[05:06] <nbbob> brb
[05:06] <|chiz|> usser: check out the template its at /etc/init.d/skeleton
[05:06] <LtL> danny3793 - what card do you recommend?
[05:06] <usser> |chiz|: thanks
[05:06] <cbs> Make the switch today......jump out of your window.
[05:06] <danny3793> LtL: are you asking me what kind of video card i would recommend to run with Vista?
[05:06] <dr_willis> phayro,  the ubuntu repositories got ftp sites. but there may be some extra files needed to install that stuff fully. if you got one ubuntu box connected to the net - you could  use some apt tool (apt-zip?) to download them all to a disk.
[05:06] <danny3793> i wouldnt even recommend running Vista at all Lol
[05:06] <LtL> danny3793 - negative, linux not vista :)
[05:07] <cbs> no its truly a disgrace
[05:07] <wastrel> lnv
[05:07] <evilfrog> hi, debootstrap anyone?
[05:07] <cbs> it is purp[osely taxing to stimulate consumers to buy new computers AGAIN
[05:07] <phayro> dr_willis i dont that is the prob, the other box is windows.  i have no way to do a hard line to the laptop (no ethernetcard)
[05:07] <bruenig> !debootstrap
[05:07] <ubotu> debootstrap is used to create a !Debian or Ubuntu base system from scratch, without requiring the availability of !dpkg or !APT. It does this by downloading !.deb files from a mirror site, and carefully unpacking them into a directory you can eventually !chroot into.
[05:07] <danny3793> LtL: oh, well right now i have a 256MB (dedicated, atleast thats what it says) of video ram, and i think its much better than my 128MB chipset which i had before in my other computer which ran XP
[05:07] <happyguy> jrib: what does an empty iptables look like?
[05:07] <danny3793> so id say a 256-512MB would run very nicely on a Linux machine
[05:07] <evilfrog> yep that's nice. but i need info on installing ubuntu using it
[05:08] <dr_willis> phayro,   no firewire connection either eh?
[05:08] <cbs> how do I do a quick restart?
[05:08] <danny3793> aslong as the card was supported fully by Linux :P
[05:08] <jrib> happyguy: there won't be any rules for INPUT, FORWARD, OUTPUT
[05:08] <happyguy> jrib: mine has like 7 lines in it, but i'm not sure they do anything
[05:08] <usser> bruenig: thank you
[05:08] <phayro> dr_willis nope, nothing of the kind, the laptop is an old cf48 panasonic
[05:08] <cbs> fast reset key combo? anyone?
[05:08] <happyguy> jrib: k, but the headings will be there, correct?
[05:08] <jrib> happyguy: pastebin them
[05:08] <evilfrog> !debootstrp-install
[05:08] <jrib> happyguy: yes, heading will be there
[05:08] <evilfrog> !debootstrap-install
[05:08] <dr_willis> phayro,  heh - i picked up a pcmcia network card ages ago for my old laptop :)
[05:09] <bruenig> evilfrog, stop
[05:09] <LtL> danny3793 -i'm trying to decide between ati or nvidia cards for future linux use. ive used both and it's still if'y
[05:09] <jrib> !install > evilfrog (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:09] <evilfrog> bruenig: hm? just seeing if the bot has any info
[05:09] <bruenig> evilfrog, perhaps if you asked a question instead of saying a word and following it with anyone, you would get a more targeted response
[05:09] <phayro> dr_willis yeah, ijust decided to dothis 2night heheh, i have had xp on it for a long time now
[05:09] <DudeManJer> I need some installation comments/assistance please :)
[05:09] <evilfrog> bruenig: i have, did
[05:09] <cbs> no that was me
[05:09] <danny3793> LtL: well ive never really got Linux fully onto my systems before, on my other computer it goes super slow on the reformatting process, but im hoping it will do better on here
[05:09] <evilfrog> --> does anyone know where i can find info about installing ubuntu via debootstrap? (nothing useful in wiki)
[05:10] <Stoffer> can someone help me with a ktorrent issue?  I'm tryin to enable the ipfilter, but ktorrent can't open the zip...it's says:  klauncher saidklauncher said: Unknown protocol 'zip'.
[05:10] <cbs> -u was just in a hurry...nevermind, ill do a slow restart
[05:10] <phayro> dr_willis so that would be the rpm then right
[05:10] <usser> LtL: nvidia no doubt
[05:10] <danny3793> LtL: to me it seems nVidia really doesnt provide much support for *nix systems, im not sure if ATI is any different
[05:10] <evilfrog> i doubt you run across this question very often
[05:10] <happyguy> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20443/
[05:10] <danny3793> LtL: but nVidia does have some nice video cards ;)
[05:10] <jrib> happyguy: ok, that's not it then
[05:10] <LtL> usser - any particular chipset/model?
[05:10] <david_> buenas noches
[05:11] <dr_willis> phayro,  ubuntu uses apt-get and the .deb packages
[05:11] <evilfrog> it's not even in the !install page
[05:11] <usser> LtL: well not really its mostly because of nvidia superb linux driver support
[05:11] <evilfrog> consider it a challenge
[05:11] <LtL> danny3793 - yeah nvidia is great but linux has to like it or im fubar ;p
[05:11] <DudeManJer> My question is for everyone : Will my HDD be fully formatted or terminated if I complete the installation with guided partitioning - it says some part of partitions will be formatted but I don't want to lose my files.
[05:11] <danny3793> im currently on a nVidia GeForce 6100 nForce 405 chipset, if thats even right (just tellin you what device manager says :P)
[05:11] <phayro> dr_willis ok i will try again heheh
[05:11] <usser> LtL: unlike ati nvidia doesnt abandon their old models
[05:11] <DudeManJer> So I was not sure if it relates with erasing my HDD
[05:11] <LtL> usser - roger that, thank you.
[05:11] <jrib> evilfrog: you just want to setup a chroot?
[05:11] <LtL> thanks danny3793
[05:11] <danny3793> DudeManJer: it depends how you told Linux to reformat your hard drive
[05:12] <evilfrog> jrib: no, i wasnt to replace CentOS with ubuntu on a live system
[05:12] <evilfrog> wasnt=want
[05:12] <DudeManJer> I asked it to do like 63% freed space on guided not erase
[05:12] <danny3793> LtL: no prob :P, tryin to give back as much as i can since ive been on here twice now and each time everyone has helped out a bunch :D
[05:12] <erikrocha> es
[05:12] <DudeManJer> but I didn't do it yet because I wasn't sure what the results will be
[05:12] <evilfrog> this should be someone worth of wiki, if successful :)
[05:12] <happyguy> jrib: thanks for the ideas so far, do you have any more?  i've scoured the web and forums for several weeks now for a fix, cuz i have a lot of customizations and i don't feel like re-installing if i can possibly help it
[05:12] <evilfrog> something
[05:12] <Crazytom> i'm getting this error while trying to uninstall or reinstall E: torrus-common: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[05:12] <Crazytom> what do i do about this?
[05:13] <danny3793> DudeManJer: ok, then i believe it will only format the free space you selected, which means it will not erase your other things, such as Windows or whatever OS you have on that machine
[05:13] <DudeManJer> Yeah that is what I asked danny3793
[05:13] <phayro> dr_willis ok got it now what, it ends in .deb
[05:13] <evilfrog> this is only reference i could find - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[05:13] <danny3793> if someone would like to approve what i stated that would be nice, :P
[05:13] <happyguy> jrib: btw on another subject, how hard is it to compile a custom kernel for ubuntu?  i've done it in mandrake (mandriva), it had a built-in GUI program for it
[05:13] <DudeManJer> So if I have like 122 GB HDD space and it says it will get up some free space which is like 30 gb
[05:13] <evilfrog> but it leaves you with a minimal useless system
[05:14] <danny3793> DudeManJer: then it should just use that 30GB and leave the rest alone and intact
[05:14] <DudeManJer> meaning partition will just free up space not erase my windows OS and files that I have, right Danny3793
[05:14] <wastrel> and dumps you into dselect!
[05:14] <jrib> happyguy: it's pretty straightforward, though I don't know of a real gui for it
[05:14] <jrib> !kernel > happyguy (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:14] <danny3793> DudeManJer: no, Linux wont free up the space, its just going to use unused space, empty blocks in your hard drive
[05:15] <DudeManJer> Ah.. that means I won't lose anything.. that helps a lot. Thanks Danny 3793
[05:15] <polm> I am going to span my UBUNTU install across two SATA disks. Is it better to use LVM or RAID (software) ? I don't need redundancy.
[05:15] <nicholaspaul> Q: I'm booted off a live CD and want to make a disc image of a partition. Anyone know how to do that???
[05:15] <DudeManJer> I appreciate it!
[05:15] <cbs> ok...
[05:15] <danny3793> DudeManJer: no prob, :D
[05:15] <jrib> happyguy: can you 'wget http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz'? and then run 'file' on it?
[05:15] <DudeManJer> I will just backup some files just to make sure
[05:16] <madman91> hey guys.. this might be a stupid question.. but how do i stream a windows media player stream.. and rip it
[05:16] <jrib> madman91: mplayer -dumpstream
[05:16] <joshwa> When I run Beryl, my typing and page scrolling is all messed up and delayed when my windows are maximized. Is there a way to reduce the quality or something whenever a window is maximized?
[05:16] <madman91> jrib: wow.. really? what will it output to
[05:16] <cbs> i fixed my system, and installed the nvidia binary ogl driver, but when I got to enable it in restricted drivers, it says my system doesn't need them....but when I try to launch tremulous, it just blits and exits
[05:17] <joshwa> or perhaps I just need a new video card...
[05:17] <evilfrog> ok thanks for the, help
[05:17] <DudeManJer> Thanks danny3793 for answering my question. Have a nice evening!
[05:17] <jrib> madman91: ./stream.dump
[05:17] <madman91> jrib: is that a video file?
[05:17] <jrib> madman91: you should be able to play it again
[05:18] <jrib> evilfrog: http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs04.html ?
[05:18] <jrib> evilfrog: though i guess you want to change the version
[05:18] <madman91> jrib: but will it just connect to the site again? or will it play in mplayer? or can i transcode it to another file..
[05:18] <evilfrog> jrib: you are the MAN
[05:18] <evilfrog> jrib: thank you :D
[05:19] <jrib> madman91: it will download the data, you won't need to connect anymore
[05:19] <obiwan_> ekiga don't find any video-input-device - what's to do ?
[05:19] <evilfrog> jrib: someone should copy that to the wiki
[05:19] <madman91> jrib: but do you know what format it will be.. and if it is transcodable?
[05:20] <happyguy> jrib: "Packages.gz: gzip compressed data, from Unix, max compression"
[05:20] <jrib> madman91: not for sure, but it will probably be wmv or whatever the original was in
[05:20] <madman91> jrib: thanks!
[05:21] <Crazytom> i'm getting this error while trying to uninstall or reinstall E: torrus-common: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[05:22] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a torsmo-like package for Ubuntu?
[05:22] <nick__> anyone know how to enable SLI i forgot how to do it
[05:22] <theshado1> Ok I'm following the comunity forums install directions for mythtv backend and front end (from scratch) the only bad part is that an xorg.conf file was never generated... is there a way I can have it do a hardware probe and create one? (I don't trust myself to do it by hand)
[05:23] <fiXXXerMet> Torsmo sits in the corner of your desktop and shows infromation on your system - ram usage, cpu usage, etc.
[05:24] <peepsalot> there's something wrong with my audio, some sound files are being distorted
[05:24] <peepsalot> anyone know what might be the issue?
[05:24] <jrib> happyguy: hmm don't know then
[05:24] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I am having the exact same problem more or less as this guy  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437942&highlight=AR5005G  Anyone could help me understand this problem... I thought linux was rock solid or "stable" rather
[05:25] <phayro> ok guys i am not an idiot but sure feel like one.  I think i got ndiswrapper installed with the installer.  now how do i start er up?
[05:25] <phayro> or how do i make sure she started properly
[05:25] <phayro> real linux noob here
[05:26] <strabes> why are the backup folders created by sbackup only readable by root? How can I change this?
[05:26] <peepsalot> phayro, try installing ndisgtk
[05:27] <phayro> peepsalot how the heck do i do that?  with the deb package or what?  i am transferring with thumbdrive atm no net connection until i get wireless up
[05:27] <happyguy> jrib: any idea where else i could check for advanced help, another channel, etc.?
[05:27] <strabes> happyguy: #linux ?
[05:27] <IowaDave> help needed to install java plugin 1.5.8 and make it the default in Firefox 1.5 on a Dapper box. $ java --version returns 1.4.6. about: plugins in Firefox returns 1.6.0. how can i back up a couple of versions to use 1.5.8?
[05:28] <jrib> happyguy: you can try again here at a different time or:
[05:28] <jrib> !support > happyguy (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:28] <theshadow> Alrighty then, I guess no one knows... how about a nice tutorial on how to create an xorg.conf file?
[05:28] <makuseru> how can i install a disto to a partion if i have A) no dvd burner B) no thumb drive thats big enough, are there any ways to do it
[05:28] <tokyoahead> hi guys... how can I amke beryl start with the system?
[05:28] <peepsalot> phayro, it is in the repositories, but since you have no net, maybe it is on the install cd?
[05:29] <Paddy_EIRE> makuseru, Wubi
[05:29] <jrib> tokyoahead: add beryl-manager to system > preferences > sessions > startup
[05:29] <jrib> makuseru: do you have a cd burner?
[05:29] <gluttony> ok, so i hear that Ubuntu Studio came out recently so i tried to get it. but the site says 404 forbiden. does anyone know why?
[05:29] <makuseru> Paddy_EIRE: whats that
[05:29] <phayro> peepsalot still learning my way around linux
[05:29] <Paddy_EIRE> google it
[05:29] <makuseru> jrib: its to big
[05:29] <jrib> makuseru: what is too big?
[05:29] <cbs> how do I enable a restricted driver thru command line?
[05:29] <jrib> !nvidia > cbs (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:29] <peepsalot> phayro, does your /etc/apt/sources.list have a line in it that points to the Install CD still
[05:30] <peepsalot> ?
[05:30] <Fezzler> Why did I lose ability to resize windows after installing new nvidia GeoFOrce 5500 card?
[05:30] <tokyoahead> jrib: thanks! I did not know that there is such a thing now... I thought I had to work with services or so
[05:30] <FurthuR> hey, how do I set a locale Var in terminal? I would like to add something to LC_ALL as it is unset and im getting errors while upgrading
[05:30] <makuseru> jrib: the ISO
[05:30] <bieb> Anyone here build their own systems?
[05:30] <phayro> peepsalot i dunno how do i check, with terminal?
[05:30] <Paddy_EIRE> makuseru, http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[05:30] <cbs> of course
[05:30] <jrib> cbs: (see how it was done before 7.04)
[05:30] <nicholaspaul> Q: I'm booted off a live CD and want to make a disc image of a partition. Anyone know how to do that???
[05:30] <peepsalot> phayro, sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[05:30] <bruenig> FurthuR, you mean just as a one time thing for a particular command?
[05:30] <IowaDave> bieb: i'm running on a homebuilt. what's your question?
[05:30] <Fezzler> bied: Goodwill Computer WOrks
[05:30] <jrib> makuseru: the iso is under 700mb
[05:30] <peepsalot> phayro, sorry, that should be sources.list
[05:31] <bieb> did you use something to burn-in/stress test your hardware?
[05:31] <makuseru> jrib: no, the ISO is 860mb
[05:31] <makuseru> Paddy_EIRE: i dont use windows
[05:31] <jrib> makuseru: not the ubuntu ones
[05:31] <phayro> peepsalot says gedit command not found
[05:31] <Shoeb> Hello, I messed up the RAID installation, and now there are md devices present even if I reboot... and when I try to delete them using "Delete MD Device", it says cannot do so since it may be in use!!! How do I get these MD devices to go and I start again?!!? :( The HDDs currently are clean wiped!
[05:31] <makuseru> jribi: ubuntu studio
[05:31] <IowaDave> bieb: no, it POSTed OK so i just installed ubuntu. couple months of daily use, all's well
[05:31] <gluttony> is there a way i can get a generic driver for my built in mother board?
[05:31] <irotas> jrib: (late response) thanks for the tip on the WMV codecs .. got it working
[05:31] <peepsalot> phayro, what version of Ubunut are you on?
[05:32] <Stoffer> considering that my wireless strength was 100% in XP, could using ndiswrapper instead of the default wireless manager in Fiesty improve my signal strength?  It's only at 40% now...
[05:32] <Fezzler> new nvidia card installed; now can't resize windows?
[05:32] <phayro> edgy, the newest one wouldnt install on the laptop
[05:32] <IowaDave> peeps: ubunut? does it taste good with chocolate?
[05:32] <phayro> and it is xubuntu if that makes diff
[05:32] <jrib> !install > makuseru (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:32] <jrib> makuseru: see if something there works for you
[05:32] <peepsalot> IowaDave, hehe, yeah it's delicious
[05:32] <bieb> Iowa.. the reason I asked is I have an ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe that was an ASUS RMA. So I wanted to test it out some, I am running the LiveCD (6.09) now and it is working
[05:32] <makuseru> jrib: please dont send me OMs
[05:33] <jrib> makuseru: what is an "OM"?
[05:33] <peepsalot> phayro, ok, xubuntu does not come with gedit
[05:33] <makuseru> PM
[05:33] <phayro> ubunut sounds south american
[05:33] <jlulian38> it is
[05:33] <makuseru> phayro: african
[05:33] <phayro> man i am sorry i didnt make that clear earlier
[05:33] <jlulian38> ubuntu
[05:33] <jlulian38> is an word
[05:33] <jrib> makuseru: why not?  it has a possible answer to your question
[05:33] <peepsalot> phayro sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:33] <Paddy_EIRE> could anyone tell me why my wifi suddenly vanished from network manager for no apparent reason?? 1 minute it was there the next its gone same problem more or less as this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437942&highlight=AR5005G
[05:33] <makuseru> !ubuntu
[05:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[05:33] <Paddy_EIRE> !install
[05:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[05:33] <makuseru> aww, thought it would give a meaning
[05:34] <luke_> Need help in fixing broken, which causes azureus and opera to stop working
[05:34] <cein> !wubi
[05:34] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[05:34] <IowaDave> bieb: is yours a new build, or does it contain a legacy OS? in other words, what's stopping you from going ahead with an installation?
[05:34] <luke_> Need help with broken JAVA
[05:34] <makuseru> phayro: jlulian38: ububtu is african, not south americans
[05:34] <Shoeb> How can I delete MD devices on install of Ubuntu?!!?
[05:34] <phayro> the only 2 lines not commented out are both urls
[05:35] <Fezzler> nvidia install robs me of window resizing?
[05:35] <luke_> Anyone having problems with JAVA 6
[05:35] <jlulian38> I meant african >.>
[05:35] <phayro> yes makuseru i know but there was a misspelling earlier and it was ubuNUT like a food hehe
[05:35] <gluttony> is there a way I can get a generic driver to be used with my built in sound card?
[05:35] <IowaDave> luke_: java 6 (i.e. 1.6) doesn't play nice with WebCT, a widely used educational content management system on college campuses.
[05:35] <titun> help me plz.... my feisty died today
[05:35] <bieb> Iowa.. I have the mobo mounted on a wooden board, with a CPU, Memory and CD Drive, and Power Supply, for testing. I want to make it a MythTV/Ubuntu box, but want to make sure there is no problem with the board
[05:35] <phayro> peepsalot and no ref to cdrom
[05:36] <cein> what did it die of?
[05:36] <titun> while booting it shows grub loading and immediately Error 17
[05:36] <titun> i am using a old knoppix live cd to use X-chat
[05:36] <IowaDave> bieb: I understand. sorry, I haven't done any burn-ins. anybody else have a suggestion?
[05:36] <tzbishop> guys. i have feisty installed on my notebook running perfectly. i would like to compile my kernel. is there a way of discovering what should I compile by analysing the result of 'lsmod'?
[05:37] <luke_> IowaDave, is there a know fix that will get java up and running?
[05:37] <bieb> Thanks IowaDave
[05:37] <titun> please someone tell me how do i get back my grub
[05:37] <cein> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1669.html
[05:37] <cein> maybe
[05:37] <cein> check your bios?
[05:37] <luke_> Because Java is broken Azureus and opera and web based java applets do not work.
[05:37] <titun> cein, bios is ok.... i can boot from live cd of knoppix
[05:38] <hecalledtheshitp> hey all i have a noob ?
[05:38] <Fritz> hello
[05:38] <IowaDave> luke_: no, the tech guys at Local U told me to uninstall J6 (from my Windows machine) and replace with a downgrade to 1.5.8. But they put the blame on the software vendor for not keeping up with Sun. Java changes apparently break older java-dependent applications sometimes.
[05:38] <luke_> Hello Fritz
[05:39] <hecalledtheshitp> i just got my ubuntu install working on my 1st hdd now i want to install xp on the 2nd drive.. is this going to give me problems, i read you should install xp first
[05:39] <Fritz> hecalled, windows doesn't want to to run ubuntu, so you'll lose your boot menu after installing it
[05:39] <Fritz> you'll need to re-install the bootloader
[05:39] <luke_> IowaDave: I tried that and using Java 5 but that did not work.
[05:39] <hecalledtheshitp> hmm
[05:40] <IowaDave> luke_: watching the chat here, it's obvious several people are experiencing the same general problem with a number of applications. i'm hoping someone can tell us how to downgrade the Firefox Java plugin to 1.5.8 from 1.6.0
[05:40] <hecalledtheshitp> how do i reinstall the boot loader?
[05:40] <linxuz3r> grub
[05:40] <linxuz3r> use grub
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> !grub
[05:41] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:41] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know how I can fiqure out why my wifi vanished??? same prob as this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437942&highlight=AR5005G
[05:41] <IowaDave> luke_: it is possible to have several versions of Java installed at the same time. the trick, apparently, is to remove all but the one you want. any suggestions to me on how to do that?
[05:41] <noelferreira> lirc
[05:41] <peepsalot> phayro, you should add a line to enable CD as a repository
[05:41] <peepsalot> phayro, i don't know exactly what you'd need to type but maybe google could tell you
[05:42] <Fritz> hecalled - see what the bot said - it's not hard as long as you are ready before you install xp
[05:42] <phayro> peepsalot ok , what about installing this ndiswrapper correctly
[05:42] <phayro> modprobe cant find it
[05:42] <phayro> i have the tar.gz file and the .deb file and .rpm heheh
[05:42] <Fritz> so, does anybody know how to make it so that the password isn't required after coming out of suspend?
[05:42] <happyguy> titun: you could try the SuperGRUB CD, it works very well for grub problems, unless you have a failing hard drive
[05:42] <Possum> So when will gaim be renamed in feisty?
[05:42] <peepsalot> phayro, oh i thought you had installed that already
[05:42] <phayro> i can see them all on my flashdrive in file manager
[05:43] <Stoffer> if I want to replace my current java JRE with the Sun version, what should I mark for removal in the synaptic manager?  Or can I just go ahead and install the Sun versions?
[05:43] <py_geek> ALL:: Is anybody using desktop effects? (System->Preferences->Desktop Effects) When I try it I only have one workspace... curse you dell inspiron 1100!
[05:43] <Fritz> possum, the next release
[05:43] <phayro> peepsalot it doesnt seem to be
[05:43] <happyguy> !grub > titun
[05:43] <Possum> Fritz, Ah, cool
[05:43] <Fritz> or maybe sooner if you use backports
[05:43] <Possum> Hm
[05:43] <danny3793> Omg, i leave for a few minutes, screen turns off, i turn it back on and Vista is ALL messed up, what a peice of garbage -_-, cant wait till ubuntu is done downloading
[05:43] <phayro> peepsalot but i thoght  i did 2
[05:43] <peepsalot> phayro, dpkg -i debfilename
[05:43] <phayro> peepsalot in a terminal right
[05:43] <fiXXXerMet> I just installed conky with apt-get.  How can I configure it and set it up?
[05:43] <Possum> danny3793, Yea, I saw a Vista display at Staples... it was frozen
[05:44] <mischko> I have kubuntu and I've switchted to gdm in the Services but it says at boot time that it's not the default.  I set it to default in System->Administration->Login Window. How to make this work?
[05:44] <Fritz> py_geek, I highly recommend installing the gl_desktop manager app
[05:44] <py_geek> danny3793: why did you waste money on vista? how much did you spend?
[05:44] <madman91> danny3793: thats what we like to hear :)
[05:44] <peepsalot> phayro yes, and replace debfilename with the actual file name of the deb file
[05:44] <danny3793> i didnt buy Vista, it came with the PC i got
[05:44] <Possum> Vista !impressive
[05:44] <Possum> danny3793, Heh... you don't _think_ you bought Vista
[05:44] <mistone> where can I find a tourtial how to use apt-get source ?
[05:44] <Fritz> py_geek - gnome-compiz-manager
[05:44] <peepsalot> mistone you want to enable source code repositories?
[05:45] <danny3793> and im suprised it took aslong as it did to finally get a BSOD on here, i bought an Acer, with knowledge of Vista on it, but im putting Linux on it so i can escape the evil grasps of winblows lol
[05:45] <FurthuR> mistone : man pages are always good place to start
[05:45] <py_geek> Has anyone heard that dell is selling computers with preinstalled ubuntu? I cant wait to dump this old laptop and get one!(once i get enough $...)
[05:45] <phayro> do i have to sudo infront of that
[05:45] <Possum> py_geek, we're on the same level, my friend :)
[05:45] <Fritz> yes, they are.  The only downside is that they are budget computers
[05:45] <peepsalot> phayro, yeah i think so
[05:45] <happyguy> fritz: i'm curious about that desktop manager you mentioned, does that take the place of gdm?
[05:45] <mistone> peepsalot: I did that already
[05:45] <danny3793> py_geek: i spent $429 for the computer at Best Buy
[05:45] <Possum> I used to des
[05:45] <Dante123> Are they supposed to start this month?
[05:46] <Possum> faulty enter key -_-;;
[05:46] <mobutu> mistone: did you try dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:46] <bruenig> py_geek, the specs will be bad probably
[05:46] <Fritz> happyguy, no, it is just a configuration tool for compiz
[05:46] <mobutu> i mean
[05:46] <cbs> ok, i need some help here...im lost....I have the nvidia binary drivers, and I know I need to allow the restricted driver to be able to load, but whenever I click to manage resttricted devices, it says my system doesn't have any
[05:46] <mistone> mobutu: wut?
[05:46] <Dante123> Selling Ubuntu preinstalled that is
[05:46] <mobutu> mischko: did you try dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:46] <bruenig> I also feel kind of dirty buying a dell but I guess they are good guys now
[05:46] <phayro> ok no error message
[05:46] <phayro> now what
[05:46] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know how I can fiqure out why my wifi vanished??? same prob as this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437942&highlight=AR5005G
[05:46] <Fritz> happyguy, it makes it easy to do things like setup active corners
[05:46] <happyguy> fritz: thanks
[05:46] <Possum> Dante123, I'll be complaining to them if that's true...
[05:46] <mischko> mobutu, no.  I want it to run gdm, not kdm.  Would that work?
[05:46] <phayro> I work for dell, hoping to learn Ubuntu for that reason
[05:46] <py_geek> bruenig: dont make any assumptions yet...
[05:46] <danny3793> bruenig: i hear Dell will soon be selling Linux desktops and laptops, lets hope for the best :P
[05:46] <Dante123> well....I'm not sure since they jumped in bed with MS and Novell
[05:47] <phayro> phone tech support for shits i mean vista and xp heheh
[05:47] <mobutu> mischko: did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[05:47] <bruenig> py_geek, well I read it is what I mean
[05:47] <mischko> mobutu, no.  I can try that.
[05:47] <Possum> Dante123, Taking a ride on the NERD SLED XD
[05:47] <Fritz> dantel, that was for their servers and not related to the ubuntu service
[05:47] <phayro> peepsalot now what
[05:47] <happyguy> fritz: are you familiar with the diff between compiz, beryl, xgl?  right now i'm trying to fix my apt-get, but then i'd like to try one of those
[05:47] <Fritz> not that it is any better, bu at least not ubuntu related
[05:47] <Fritz> happyguy, are you running feisty?
[05:48] <happyguy> fritz: yes
[05:48] <peepsalot> phayro, i'm not sure exactly. i got ndiswrapper to work using ndisgtk, which is a graphical interface.
[05:48] <danny3793> happyguy: still havin problems? :p
[05:48] <Fritz> do you have your 3D drivers installed?
[05:48] <phayro> peepsalot should  i be able to modprobe it?
[05:48] <happyguy> danny3793: yep ;p
[05:48] <Shoeb> How can I delete MD devices on install of Ubuntu?!!?
[05:48] <peepsalot> phayro, do you have access to another computer with internet?
[05:48] <phayro> yes but it is windows
[05:48] <IowaDave> bruenig: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=us&cs=19&l=en&
[05:48] <phayro> and i have trusty flashdrive
[05:49] <py_geek> bruenig: hmm... well, we dont need to waste ram and hard drive space like all the junky windows oses do... Wont make all that much of a difference, will it?
[05:49] <danny3793> happyguy: hopefully i wont have many problems, or else ill end up running around in circles praying to the linux gods to save me lmao
[05:49] <happyguy> danny3793: i'd re-install if it were easy to do without messing up all the stuff i got working like wireless, graphics 3D, etc....
[05:49] <Fritz> so, I'm taking it that nobody knows how to get rid of password requirement when coming out of suspend
[05:50] <phayro> it says no versions of ndiswrapper found dangit heheh
[05:50] <danny3793> happyguy: ohhh, so you had some problems with your wireless card? and i hear 3D isnt working on 32bit or 64bit, one of the two, im guessing theres a "fix" for this? i like to play 3D games :'(
[05:50] <Possum> Fritz, heh, I can't even get suspend to work :/
[05:50] <`RiffRaff> heyas
[05:50] <danny3793> oops, misworded my message, i meant "working on 32bit or 64bit one of the two"
[05:50] <Possum> swsup !like my hardware
[05:50] <`RiffRaff> umm quick question
[05:50] <py_geek> What I love about ubuntu is that you dont have to restart your computer every time you install something!
[05:50] <peepsalot> phayro, well, maybe you can get a deb file for ndisgtk too.  or other option is to find how to enable CD repositories, and maybe ndisgtk is on there
[05:50] <Fritz> happyguy - stick with compiz - it's well supported in ubuntu and it's merging with beryl anyway
[05:51] <IowaDave> Fritz: sometimes the answer man ain't here. the rest of us care, but we just don't know. :)
[05:51] <`RiffRaff> does ubuntu automatically set up dual boot
[05:51] <phayro> ok just search for ndisgtk
[05:51] <danny3793> py_geek: i bout crapped myself when i saw that LOL, it was like "restart when you need to" and i was like, You mean no "must restart computer" messages!?!? lol
[05:51] <Fritz> riffraff, yes
[05:51] <Possum> `RiffRaff, yes, if you partition it correctly
[05:51] <raylu> With ubuntu desktop, ubuntu alternate, and kubuntu desktop, every install option loads up the kernel and then gives me two lines of hex at the bottom of the screen
[05:51] <richgilb> HEY all - anyone want to help me get my nvidia drivers working in ubuntu studio? it crashes my xserver - and i want compiz!
[05:51] <`RiffRaff> so just install ubuntu and when I do a restart I can get into my windows side
[05:51] <peepsalot> phayro, yeah and if you want to try to do it from CD, you can probably enable CD from synaptic package manager
[05:51] <Fritz> richgilb,  have you tried using envy?
[05:52] <happyguy> danny3793: my wireless card is the BroadCom 4318, it's notorious to not work but i finally got it to, and i have an ati which has 3D support with the "restricted drivers" thing
[05:52] <Possum> `RiffRaff, make sure to manually partition it, by default it overwrites your windows partition
[05:52] <richgilb> Fritz, what's that? im kinda new to this
[05:52] <Fritz> riffraff, as long as you don't accidentally delete window
[05:52] <peepsalot> phayro, otherwise, USB flash from windows box
[05:52] <danny3793> `RiffRaff: what version are you running?
[05:52] <`RiffRaff> I have set up a linux partition
[05:52] <cbs> I have the nvidia binary drivers, and I know I need to allow the restricted driver to be able to load, but whenever I click to manage resttricted devices, it says my system doesn't have any devices that need restricted drivers
[05:52] <py_geek> Fritz: O well, I guess i just wont use desktop fx, I cant even use text boxes...
[05:52] <raylu> With ubuntu desktop, ubuntu alternate, and kubuntu desktop, every install option loads up the kernel and then gives me two lines of hex at the bottom of the screen (it starts with "Int 14: CR2 cf800000...")
[05:52] <danny3793> happyguy: ohhh, i have a Netgear wireless card, hopefully i dont get too many problems with my nVidia chipset :S
[05:52] <`RiffRaff> windows 2000 wanting to install ubuntu 7
[05:53] <Possum> `RiffRaff, I think you still need to select "manual partitioning" and tell it to install on the partition you created :)
[05:53] <`RiffRaff> kk
[05:53] <Fritz> richgilb - http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:53] <Possum> `RiffRaff, good luck :)
[05:53] <Fritz> py_geek, that link might help you too
[05:53] <`RiffRaff> kk thanks
[05:53] <py_geek> Does anyone in here have a psp that has 1.50 firmware? or undiluted platinum?
[05:53] <`RiffRaff> bye for now
[05:53] <Malenfant> hi
[05:54] <Malenfant> anyone here know how to install mythTV
[05:54] <madman91> is it possible to rip wm10 streams?
[05:54] <Fritz> malenfant, the front end or the full system?
[05:54] <Malenfant> im not sure what you are asking
[05:54] <richgilb> Fritz, thanks - i'll try it
[05:55] <Malenfant> id like to use it like i would windows media center, does that help?
[05:55] <phayro> peepsalot still searching
[05:55] <Fritz> malenfant, mythtv runs as two parts - the backend does the recording and scheduling, the frontend provides the interface and playback
[05:55] <anchovy> hey
[05:55] <oxy-cotton> Is ubuntu studio made by the same people who made ubuntu?
[05:55] <Malenfant> then the full system
[05:56] <Zjoske> how do you setup a lamp server on ubuntu feisty fawn (DESKTOP)?
[05:56] <peepsalot> oxy-cotton, i'm not too sure, but I think it is not officially supported by canonical
[05:56] <Zjoske> just sudo apt-get install apache2 etc...?
[05:56] <MEOase> I foolishly changed the mount point of my ipod (shuffle) to /media/ipod.  Ubuntu now does nothing when I plug it in.  cat /proc/scsi/scsi gives nothing :( Does anybody know how to get it back?
[05:57] <oxy-cotton> peepsalot: How can I get ubuntu studio without installing a new 7.04? Is there a ubuntustudio-desktop like kubuntu-desktop?
[05:57] <peepsalot> phayro http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndisgtk/ndisgtk_0.5-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[05:57] <happyguy> danny3793: i think nvidia is better supported than ati... just search ubuntuforums.org for the make and model of your wireless card to check for support
[05:57] <Malenfant> fritz are you still here?
[05:57] <Fritz> malenfant - it's best to follow a good guide start to finish
[05:57] <Fritz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty
[05:57] <peepsalot> oxy-cotton, maybe they have their own repositories that you can add to sources.list
[05:58] <Zjoske> !lamp
[05:58] <cbs> I have the nvidia binary drivers, and I know I need to allow the restricted driver to be able to load, but whenever I click to manage resttricted devices, it says my system doesn't have any devices that need restricted drivers,,
[05:58] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:58] <AkkaArrh> hey, I'm totally new on Linux, just installed ubuntu and I like it, anyway I'm running FileZilla and tries to transfer some files to my other machine, the files are on a fat32 partition which ubuntu mounted at start, so I'm wondering how to access it from FileZilla
[05:58] <Fritz> I could help you, but I'm much more likely to leave something out than the guide is
[05:58] <Malenfant> thank you
[05:58] <phayro> hey peepsalot do you see ndiswrapper 1.9 deb there
[05:58] <IowaDave> Zjoske: if all you want is a LAMP server, consider a clear install of the Feisty Server deition.
[05:58] <oxy-cotton> peepsalot: Which are.....
[05:58] <happyguy> meoase: do you know what it was before?
[05:58] <Fritz> malenfant, it does work well though, I run the backend on my server int he closet and a frontend on my laptop and desktop
[05:58] <gavintlgold> hi, i have apache/php set up on my ubuntu feisty computer, to test php code. Where can i move php files to, so that i can test my code on my computer?
[05:58] <Zjoske> IowaDave: i want to use desktop edition i need LAMP for testing php scripts etc...
[05:58] <Fritz> malenfant, those are all ubuntu based
[05:58] <Zjoske> (not for use as a Real server)
[05:59] <Malenfant> okay thanks youve been a huge help
[05:59] <peepsalot> oxy-cotton, dunno, maybe the ubuntu studio site says
[05:59] <danny3793> happyguy: i actually got my card to work before while using ubuntu on live cd, it was on my other computer, but its the same exact wireless card model
[05:59] <peepsalot> phayro, woops, that link i gave you was for breezy
[05:59] <peepsalot> not edgy
[05:59] <happyguy> danny3793: cool, shouldn't be a problem then
[05:59] <oxy-cotton> thanks peepsalot
[05:59] <madman91> is it possible to rip the newest windows media streams (wm10) with mplayer.. or with anything?
[06:00] <oxy-cotton> peepsalot: http://ubuntustudio.org/
[06:00] <oxy-cotton> 403
[06:00] <IowaDave> Zjoske: then I imagine installing Apache and PHP5 would probably be enough. PHP5 comes with SQLite built in, which is enough if you just want to play around with SQL.
[06:00] <gavintlgold> i just want to know the directory to my localhost.... does no one know that?
[06:00] <peepsalot> oxy-cotton, sorry :(
[06:00] <Zjoske> ok thanks IowaDave
[06:00] <Zjoske> ;)
[06:01] <theTrav> huzah! I'm got an mp3 jukebox!
[06:01] <Zjoske> and another question... how do you set up gaim for autostart on boot??
[06:01] <theTrav> s/I'm/I've
[06:01] <happyguy> jrib: i know this is a noob question, but how do you set up a kernel module to install at boot?  i'm running modprobe every boot to get my wireless up
[06:01] <IowaDave> Zjoske: you'll also need to configure Apache to connect with PHP. That's beyond my knowledge this late at night...
[06:01] <Zjoske> cuz i hate it when it doesn't autostart..
[06:01] <titun> please someone help! i am getting Error 17 while booting
[06:01] <titun> i checked BIOS, its set to boot from hard disk
[06:01] <Possum> Zjoske, system->administration->sessions I think
[06:01] <phayro> peepsalot what do i doo with this one?  http://web.mit.edu/jongrimm/Public/wireless/ndiswrapper-1.9/
[06:02] <Possum> Zjoske, err... system->preferences->sessions
[06:02] <levon> hey guys my internet connection sucks and on my router its saying that my host name is unknown
[06:02] <Zjoske> ok
[06:02] <titun> no one to help
[06:02] <titun> :(
[06:03] <phayro> this is nutz hehhe
[06:03] <Possum> titun,
[06:03] <Zjoske> titun
[06:03] <phayro> ok how do i install thisone there peepsalot
[06:03] <Zjoske> i'll see
[06:03] <Possum> titun, try boot from livecd and reinstall grub
[06:03] <titun> please tell me how do i fix my grub
[06:03] <Zjoske> titun: is it grub error 17?
[06:03] <titun> yes i am in a knoppix boot cd now
[06:03] <peepsalot> phayro, what version did you install before?
[06:03] <titun> Zjoske, yes
[06:03] <titun> ubuntu 7.04
[06:03] <Possum> titun, run grub-install from command line
[06:04] <titun> ok
[06:04] <Possum> titun, did you get it booting okay before? Or did you just install it?
[06:04] <peepsalot> phayro, http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndisgtk/ndisgtk_0.6-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[06:04] <titun> Possum, yes i had a good running os
[06:04] <peepsalot> phayro, try that on usb key
[06:04] <titun> just all of sudden it wont boot
[06:04] <Zjoske> titun:  error 17 = Your HD is not mountable..
[06:04] <phayro> well if it did install it is ndis common 1.28.1 all.deb
[06:04] <Zjoske> maybe wrong filesystem?
[06:04] <oxy-cotton> How can I get something like a ubuntu-studio desktop, like kubuntu-desktop
[06:04] <Possum> ouch, that's possible >.>
[06:05] <titun> Zjoske, oh.... so what to do
[06:05] <Zjoske> reinstall, reformat
[06:05] <Stoffer> I run azureus (installed from source) by going to its directory, and typing ./azureus..... how do I create a shortcut to that?
[06:05] <Zjoske> repartition it..
[06:05] <happyguy> titun: what's your drive setup, you have more than one drive?
[06:05] <Zjoske> you chose
[06:05] <titun> only one hdd  , 40 gb, hda1 / and hda5 is swap
[06:05] <Possum> titun, if you have extra space, or partitioned your /home as a separate directory, that can be saved easily enough
[06:06] <Possum> oh
[06:06] <titun> Possum, no i did only default install
[06:06] <phayro> ok peepsalot gots it
[06:06] <phayro> now what
[06:06] <happyguy> titun: you could try the SuperGRUB CD, i used it to fix my system
[06:06] <titun> what parameter is needed after grub-install ?
[06:06] <wilo> how do i read my current partion tables/setup in ubuntu edgy?
[06:07] <peepsalot> phayro, sudo dpkg -i filename
[06:07] <madman91> wilo: with gparted
[06:07] <titun> happyguy, i am not in a condition to get a cd, no os and no body else to make me a cd
[06:07] <XLV_feisty> wilo, fdisk -l <device>
[06:07] <madman91> wilo: or what he said
[06:07] <phayro> ok is looking
[06:07] <dhtechs> anybody got a hammer so I can crush my radeon 9200?
[06:07] <happyguy> titun: is everything fine in gparted?
[06:07] <phayro> errors
[06:07] <madman91> wilo: fdisk shows a command line display
[06:07] <wilo> madman91: how do i check with gparted?
[06:07] <titun> happyguy, how do i check
[06:07] <happyguy> titun: are you running on a liveCD?
[06:07] <madman91> wilo: install it.. sudo aptitude install gparted
[06:07] <wilo> ok ill try fdisk
[06:08] <titun> happyguy, yes, a lod knopix one
[06:08] <phayro> dependency probs it says
[06:08] <Possum> titun, actually I'm not sure grub-install will work... you can try it.. it's grub-install <your_hd>
[06:08] <peepsalot> phayro, what dependencies?
[06:08] <madman91> wilo: are you on a live cd?
[06:08] <titun> Possum, in my case hd0
[06:08] <Possum> titun, that will be /dev/hda or something
[06:08] <titun> oh
[06:08] <phayro> it syas tht ndiswrapper utils is not isntalled
[06:08] <peepsalot> phayro, if it lists them all, you will need to get those also on the usb key and install them first
[06:08] <happyguy> titun: ok, i would load from a ubuntu CD if you have one, but knoppix may have what you need
[06:08] <Possum> titun, use hd0 if you use the grub shell
[06:08] <wilo> madman91: nah i have had a hdd install of ubuntu for a while
[06:08] <madman91> wilo: then install gparted
[06:08] <wilo> i just need to resize my current partions
[06:09] <madman91> wilo: sudo aptitude install gparted
[06:09] <luisgmarine> Hello I'm about to amd 64 version, anyone here using it that can point me to a Ubuntu Guide for 64-bit?  That might explain what I need to get Cedega, Azureus, Frostwire, and Flash + Firefox working?
[06:09] <wilo> madman91: yeah im doing that now :)
[06:09] <madman91> wilo: oh.. i thought you chose fdisk :)
[06:09] <titun> Possum, cannot create directory ; read only
[06:09] <happyguy> titun: in ubuntu it's System->Administration->Gnome Partition Editor
[06:09] <XLV_feisty> any temp hardware monitoring front-end for ubuntu? gkrellm or whatever?
[06:09] <phayro> peepsalot do you know how to install from the tar file?
[06:09] <peepsalot> phayro, this page has list of all packages for Edgy http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/allpackages
[06:09] <happyguy> titun: then check for any exclamation marks and read the error messages
[06:09] <Possum> titun, err... run it as root (use sudo)
[06:09] <titun> happyguy, ok
[06:09] <titun> Possum, oh....
[06:09] <wilo> madman91: ok i installed it, where bouts is gparted in the menu, or is it a cli app?
[06:10] <phayro> peepsalot that is what i was looking for
[06:10] <Talla> ok so i have this creative live cam where do i get ubuntu drivers
[06:10] <peepsalot> phayro, from source?  you could do that but why?
[06:10] <madman91> wilo: you can start it with .. gksudo gparted
[06:10] <Talla> anyone?
[06:10] <madman91> wilo: but its in the menus as well
[06:10] <peepsalot> what tar file?
[06:10] <Possum> titun, and you might want to listen to the others about gparted or fdisk.. reinstalling grub _might_ work, but if it's an FS error it won't do anything
[06:10] <madman91> wilo: system-->administration-->gnome partition editor
[06:10] <phayro> ndiswrapper 1.43.tar.gz
[06:10] <happyguy> lol
[06:11] <fiXXXerMet> Anyone here use conky?
[06:11] <t3hfr3ak> I need help setting up my TV connected to my computer VIA SVIDEO
[06:11] <LtL> dhtechs - try here.. http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon   worked on my 9000
[06:11] <wilo> madman91: thankyou
[06:11] <titun> Possum, i don't think its a fs error... everything was fine,,.... so i need to reinstall/fix grub
[06:11] <Goldfisch> luisgmarine: I have ubuntu on an amd64 machine. Most of the stuff works out of the box. I used the 64-bit versions of everything. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727 shows how to get flash9 working.
[06:12] <titun> Possum, but the problem is that original cd from which i installed Ubuntu won't boot as livecd now
[06:12] <madman91> wilo: no problem
[06:12] <t3hfr3ak> titun; what error you getting?
[06:12] <Goldfisch> luisgmarine: I have edgy, but I'm upgrading to feisty right now.
[06:12] <Possum> titun, that's not good... try running an md5sum on it if you get a chance
[06:12] <wilo> madman91: I dont remember how set up my partions on this box
[06:12] <titun> t3hfr3ak, it searches for a long time..the orange bar
[06:12] <titun> then a lots of numbered errors
[06:13] <madman91> wilo: what do you mean?
[06:13] <luisgmarine> Goldfisch, Is there a ubuntu guide for 64-bit?  I know cedega gives 64-bit .debs , so thats taken care of.  But I'm a bit worried about java and Azureus, I like to share a lot of torrents ....
[06:13] <titun> no text which i can understand
[06:13] <madman91> wilo: cant you see them in gparted?
[06:13] <t3hfr3ak> titun: hmmm... try running memtest
[06:13] <wilo> well i have a 40gb hdd and a 80gb hdd
[06:13] <titun> t3hfr3ak, ok..... trying to reboot and check
[06:13] <yimmmy> how do i download stuff
[06:13] <danny3793> will pci=nocpi work in tituns case?
[06:13] <bruenig> yimmmy, wget
[06:13] <yimmmy> i have a hdd tahat wont let me
[06:13] <wilo> but im not sure how i set up the partions
[06:14] <yimmmy> fuctuff on it
[06:14] <DarkRAM> Can anyone help with USB drives no longer mounting automaticly?
[06:14] <danny3793> pci=noacpi*
[06:14] <madman91> wilo: you cant see the other harddrive?
[06:14] <phayro> ok peepsalot we are close i can feel it
[06:14] <yimmmy> what it wget>?
[06:14] <wilo> atm, gparted shows /dev/hda1/
[06:14] <Crazytom> what's a good webserver i can use that will help me set up a password protected http proxy?  apache is not working for me at all and #apache is practically worthless
[06:14] <wilo> which is the 80gb one
[06:14] <peepsalot> phayro, i gope so ;)
[06:14] <peepsalot> hope
[06:14] <t3hfr3ak> anyone know how to setup a TV connected through SVIDEO on 7.04?
[06:14] <wilo> madman91: i cant see the other hard drive :(
[06:14] <madman91> wilo: its in a tab.. top right corner
[06:14] <madman91> of gparted
[06:15] <maddy> making apache2 under ubuntu-server working is impossible!
[06:15] <madman91> wilo: choose one or the other.. do you see what i mean?
[06:15] <pyrohotdog> Where can I find a script/program to change my wallpaper at certain intervals?
[06:15] <Goldfisch> luisgmarine: Well, I don't use cedega, because I really am not into gaming. My amd64 is used primarily for MythTV, not java development. I haven't needed a "64-bit guide" since I migrated off of Debian onto Ubuntu. But that is because there wasn't much support back then for 64-bit.
[06:15] <yimmmy> my spare hdd when i try to put a file on it it says you are not allowed to do this
[06:15] <luisgmarine> Goldfisch, ok
[06:15] <bruenig> pyrohotdog, you could write one
[06:15] <phayro> ok i grabbed the common and the utils which one first?
[06:15] <luisgmarine> Goldfisch, I can't find a decent rock solid guide like Ubuntu Guide for 64-bit, I'm not sure if the 32-bit applies for 64-bit too
[06:15] <madman91> wilo: so.. whats happening?
[06:15] <bruenig> pyrohotdog, just have it move different pngs into the one that the background is looking for and have it run in cron
[06:15] <pyrohotdog> bruenig: thought of that, don't think I know quite enough.
[06:16] <phayro> ok got common and utils in
[06:16] <pyrohotdog> bash script?
[06:16] <DudeManJer> danny3793: thanks for this.. I am now using ubuntu.. nice OS =)
[06:16] <danny3793> luisgmarine: 62bit cpus work with 32bit os'es
[06:16] <wilo> madman91: basically i need more space on my current filesystem
[06:16] <wilo> and i have an old exiusting filesystem
[06:16] <wilo> that had mandriva on it
[06:16] <pyrohotdog> Aww, cron. Not to educated in that field.
[06:16] <madman91> wilo: but did you find your old harddrive?
[06:16] <danny3793> Dudemanjer: no prob, im very glad i was of much help :D
[06:16] <luisgmarine> danny3793, I know, I want to upgrade though
[06:16] <wilo> and i want to format that and resize so my ubuntu partion is the entire 40gb hdd
[06:17] <phayro> now it says it is not installed wheni try  that ndisgtk
[06:17] <wilo> madman91: no i didn't find my old hdd
[06:17] <wilo> gparted only found my 80gb hdd
[06:17] <wilo> its got windows on it
[06:17] <wilo> and my 40 gb shoudl be in 2 partions
[06:17] <madman91> wilo: so its ntfs?
[06:17] <wilo> ubuntu and mandriva
[06:17] <danny3793> luisgmarine: i am experiencing x server issues when trying to install 6.06 64bit, im not sure if that is limited to 64bit, but i know its my main issue
[06:17] <yimmmy> my spare hdd when i try to put a file on it it says you are not allowed to do this
[06:18] <wilo> madman91: the hdd i want to format is hdb1
[06:18] <danny3793> luisgmarine: so i am just going with 32bit 7.04
[06:18] <wilo> but that isn't commin up on gparted
[06:18] <Goldfisch> luisgmarine: I have never such a guide. I dropped in an Ubuntu AMD64 installation CD, and it installed just like by 32-bit desktop did. You may want to look up "ubuntu java 64-bit" and "ubuntu cedega 64-bit" on google to check things out.
[06:18] <madman91> wilo: hdb1 is a partition
[06:18] <wilo> but it shows in the my computer in the menu
[06:18] <madman91> wilo: but can you see it in gparted..
[06:18] <madman91> wilo: did you check the tab i told you?
[06:18] <wilo> hdb1 is the 2nd partion of a 40gb hdd, yes
[06:19] <wilo> madman91: what tab?
[06:19] <luisgmarine> danny3793, I'm fine right now, except for this flash sound problem , no one seems to know how to help me ... its a weird thing, but its pissing me off, lol I hate trying everything out there for no avial
[06:19] <peepsalot> is this wav distorted for anyone else?  http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.wav
[06:19] <madman91> wilo: in gparted
[06:19] <madman91> wilo: hold on.. ill open mine up to explain
[06:19] <theTrav> arr.  Trying to configure rt2570 wireless in feisty, anyone here done it?  know if/how I should remove network manager?
[06:19] <nambis> can anyone tell me if fs-driver mounts ext3 partiions in windows safe mode?  also, when are the fd-drivers loaded.. could i store "documents and settings" on an ext3 and not have boot problems?  thanks
[06:19] <danny3793> luisgmarine: what version of linux are you running?
[06:19] <maddy> can someone help me configuring my apacheserver under ubuntu? nothing is working like it should
[06:19] <phayro> ok peepsalot you there, i typed in ndiswrapper and it wants paramaters now
[06:19] <luisgmarine> danny3793, 7.04 - 32 bit right now
[06:19] <phayro> so now what
[06:19] <madman91> wilo: ok.. to the right of apply button
[06:19] <madman91> wilo: under the top right corner..
[06:20] <peepsalot> phayro, man ndiswrapper
[06:20] <wilo> ahhh yes
[06:20] <jumbers> When is Pidgin going to be added to the package manager?
[06:20] <Goldfisch> luisgmarine: I looked up the packages, and now there is a java5 and java6 cut for Ubuntu as a standard package (http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/devel/sun-java6-jdk). All you have to do now is apt-get install sun-java6-jdk.
[06:20] <phayro> ahh ok so rtfm heheh
[06:21] <wilo> i see now, sorry i assumed it woudl show all hdd's in the one window
[06:21] <luisgmarine> Goldfisch, that is for 64-bit you are talking about?
[06:21] <wilo> how do i know wat apertion im using right now
[06:21] <Goldfisch> luisgmarine: Thanks to Sun going open source and allowing distributions to release java, it is much easier. If you surf to that page, there is an amd64 version and i386 version.
[06:21] <danny3793> luisgmarine: hmmm..thats weird, im kinda new to the ubuntu scene, sorry, =\
[06:21] <luisgmarine> Goldfisch, awesome
[06:22] <slap_me> mm i forget, what do i need to install, to be able to write to my windows partition?
[06:22] <slap_me> i wanna transfer stuff over there to sync to my ipod
[06:22] <slap_me> ...
[06:22] <Zjoske> DarkRAM: i didn't come any closer to a solution for my usb problem too..
[06:22] <luisgmarine> danny3793, its mostly my fault I have a custom ~/.asoundrc config , and just screwing things up
[06:22] <yimmmy> my spare hdd when i try to put a file on it it says you are not allowed to do this
[06:22] <Goldfisch> luisgmarine: I haven't developed apps on one system and the run on another, so I can't testify how eclipse and jar/war/ear files work.
[06:22] <madman91> wilo: ok.. the top right corner shows your harddrive .. the whole display shows your partitions
[06:22] <DarkRAM> Zjoske, me neither :(
[06:22] <Zjoske> :'(
[06:22] <nambis> can anyone tell me if fs-driver mounts ext3 partiions in windows safe mode?  thanks
[06:22] <Goldfisch> luisgmarine: Well, I hope it works alright. I HAVE built java systems on windows and run them on sun solaris. That sounds further apart than intel 386 and amd64 to me.
[06:23] <maddy> nobody can help me?
[06:23] <r3dragon> could someone help me w/ installing firefox v2.0.0.3
[06:23] <richgilb> Fritz you there?
[06:23] <wilo> madman91: YEAH I REALISED THAT
[06:23] <wilo> sorry for caps
[06:23] <r3dragon> i'm running ubuntu v6.06 LTS
[06:23] <tootu> is there any one use mame?
[06:23] <madman91> wilo: oh.. you dont know what partition you are using right now right?
[06:23] <danny3793> r3dragon: what is your prob?
[06:23] <richgilb> r3dragon theres an installer program built into ubuntu that will install the program for you
[06:24] <r3dragon> well.. i'm a bit of a linux noob..
[06:24] <r3dragon> hehe
[06:24] <wilo> madman91: yeah
[06:24] <danny3793> me too, but i know a few things :P
[06:24] <maddy> :(
[06:24] <Zjoske> On the Ubuntu liveCD my USB stick mounts automatically, on the install version my usb device doesn't mount automatically, i can't mount it either... Anyone who knows this problem? anyone who has a solution?
[06:24] <r3dragon> i have v1.5 installed currently
[06:24] <richgilb> r3dragon it's not like windows like you have to install from the site - look around your menus for synaptic package manager
[06:24] <danny3793> linux generally comes with firefox ready to go, ubuntu that is atleast
[06:24] <Goldfisch> r3dragon: Go to Applications -> Add/Remove Applications, and you should be able to search for Firefox.
[06:24] <slap_me> anybody know what i need to install to transfer files to my windows partition?
[06:24] <madman91> wilo: there are two ways to find out what partitions you are running ubuntu on.. type in "mount" into a terminal.. and find the partitions and mount points (/ /home /swap) and so on.. or you can just do "cat /etc/fstab" and find it there
[06:25] <madman91> wilo: thats the only ways i know
[06:25] <wilo> madman91: well i know this much, i have 2 hdd's, one 80gb = hda1 that has windows xp, the 2nd hdd which is 40gb is called hdb1, this si where i have a 20 ubuntu partion and a 20gb mandirva partion
[06:25] <Zjoske> On the Ubuntu liveCD my USB stick mounts automatically, on the install version my usb device doesn't mount automatically, i can't mount it either... Anyone who knows this problem? anyone who has a solution?
[06:25] <Evan_> how do i add a word to the beginning of a whole bunch of files?
[06:25] <baudthief> Can someone please help me, I don't want to have to move back to windows just because of this. I'm getting severe "tearing" during video playback. I'm using the proprietary nvidia drivers, and sync to vblank is checked under nvidia-settings. Disabling it also seems to have no effect.
[06:25] <r3dragon> i tried synaptic, but the version is v1.5..
[06:25] <Evan_> i tried rename *.* Scrubs - *.*
[06:25] <maddy> i was changing from Gentoo to Ubuntu because i thought i might save time in the administration, but apache under ubuntu is patched to the end and no hint how to set up 60 different domains
[06:25] <Shoeb> Can someone please answer my RAID question? For god's sake?
[06:25] <bur[n] er> baudthief: using totem-xine?  sudo apt-get install totem-xine xinelib-extracodecs
[06:25] <richgilb> r3dragon enable your multiverse and universe repositories
[06:26] <madman91> wilo: .. harddrives are called hda hdb hdc ... and so on.. the 1 2 3 and so on are partitions
[06:26] <danny3793> baudthief: i dont think your supposed to use nvidia provided drivers :S
[06:26] <baudthief> bur[n] er: tried it, happens with all media players :(
[06:26] <baudthief> danny3793: Apparently I need them to run beryl nicely
[06:26] <bur[n] er> i think nvidia proprietary drivers work well and danny is talking trash
[06:26] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: I have been paying attention to other threads of discussion. What is your RAID question?
[06:26] <danny3793> baudthief: yes, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:26] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: Thank you. How can I delete a multidisk device?
[06:26] <bur[n] er> baudthief: change refresh rate?  happen at all resolutions?  try lowering depth?  same in vlc too?
[06:27] <baudthief> Feisty, 7.04 I think
[06:27] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: I messed up the RAID installation, and now there are md devices present even if I reboot... and when I try to delete them using "Delete MD Device", it says cannot do so since it may be in use!!! How do I get these MD devices to go and I start again?!!? :( The HDDs currently are clean wiped!
[06:27] <wilo> madman91: ohh well i didn't know tat
[06:27] <vbabiy> hey guys is there any good podcast software that supports both video and audio
[06:27] <madman91> wilo: so did you get my "mount" or "cat /etc/fstab" instructions?
[06:27] <wilo> madman91: have a look at wat i have in fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20449/
[06:27] <bur[n] er> vbabiy: democracy player or penguintv
[06:27] <Zjoske> On the Ubuntu liveCD my USB stick mounts automatically, on the install version my usb device doesn't mount automatically, i can't mount it either... Anyone who knows this problem? anyone who has a solution?
[06:27] <sumigamer> hey guys does anyone know whether shipit deliver CDs to India???
[06:27] <danny3793> baudthief: 7.04 should support your card
[06:27] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: Hold your horses. I have had that problem in the past. You have to execute a step to "wipe the superblock" from them. Give me a sec...
[06:27] <baudthief> bur[n] er: only thing I havent tried is VLC, but it's the same in all refresh rates and resolutions - only happens during video playback in all apps, gaming, etc look great even with vsync is disabled
[06:27] <vbabiy> bur[n] er: which would you recommend
[06:28] <r3dragon> richgilb.. thanks.. i tried that.. under "software properties" and added the other repositories
[06:28] <bur[n] er> baudthief: what's the movietype?  happen on all movietypes?
[06:28] <nambis> can anyone tell me if fs-driver mounts ext3 partiions in windows safe mode? c'mon.... i know lots of you have treid this and it only takes a sec to say yes or no :)
[06:28] <sumigamer> hey guys does anyone know whether shipit deliver CDs to India???
[06:28] <bruenig> Zjoske, do mkdir usb && sudo mount /dev/sdf1 usb/
[06:28] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: Thanks..
[06:28] <r3dragon> but for some reson they wont save
[06:28] <wilo> madman91: im pretty sure im on hdb5 right now for ubuntu
[06:28] <wilo> and i want to format and resize mandriva partion whih would be hdb1
[06:28] <bur[n] er> vbabiy: got me, I use google reader for podcasting ;)
[06:28] <wilo> crrect?
[06:28] <baudthief> bur[n] er: I havent checked that actually, right now it's XviD, i'll try divx / mpg
[06:28] <yimmmy> my spare hdd when i try to put a file on it it says you are not allowed to do this
[06:28] <r3dragon> do i need to be root?
[06:28] <madman91> wilo: /dev/hdb5 is / ... /dev/hda1 is /media/hda1 .. which is your windows
[06:28] <bur[n] er> baudthief: give vlc a shot...  just for kicks
[06:28] <Zjoske> bruenig: i already did that.. doesn't work (sdf and other mount points are no valid block-device)
[06:29] <sumigamer>  hey guys does anyone know whether shipit deliver CDs to India???
[06:29] <bruenig> Zjoske, do you know if that is its name?
[06:29] <wilo> madman91: im pretty sure im on hdb5 right now for ubuntu, is tat right?
[06:29] <madman91> wilo: /dev/hdb1 is /media/hdb1 is probably mandriva
[06:29] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: If you go to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/LVM_on_RAID, and scan down about half way, it has some steps you can execute to wipe out a RAID array. Its inthe section called "Make the array".
[06:29] <madman91> wilo: yes.. thats your /
[06:29] <Zjoske> bruenig:  i only know that on the livecd my usb device is mounted as: /dev/sda1
[06:29] <bruenig> Zjoske, plug it in and do dmesg to see what it is calling it
[06:29] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: THANK YOU!
[06:30] <wilo> madman91: so how do i format hdb1 and resize it into my hdb5?
[06:30] <Zjoske> bruenig: it is called sg0, there is no mount point created...
[06:30] <bruenig> Zjoske, I don't think usb devices are generally sda
[06:30] <bur[n] er> wilo: gparted via livecd
[06:30] <bruenig> Zjoske, ok do mkdir usb && sudo mount /dev/sg0 usb/
[06:30] <Zjoske> bruenig: i checked that on the livecd and it is properly mounted on sda1
[06:30] <madman91> wilo: well.. to format hdb1 ... you can open up gparted
[06:30] <madman91> wilo: right click on it.. and choose delete
[06:31] <wilo> it wont let me
[06:31] <bruenig> Zjoske, what does "mounted on sda1" mean
[06:31] <wilo> only option is unmount
[06:31] <madman91> wilo: unmount it
[06:31] <Zjoske> bruenig: the output is:  /dev/sg0 is no valid block-device
[06:31] <madman91> wilo: ah.. there might be a slight problem.. you are running on the same harddrive right?
[06:31] <wilo> madman91: wont let me, need to manual unmount apprently
[06:31] <DarkRAM> Zjoske, i get the same message
[06:31] <Zjoske> bruenig: with mounted on sda1 i mean it's mounted to the mountpoint: /dev/sda1
[06:31] <cute_bettong> how do i kill an unknown zombie app?
[06:32] <bruenig> Zjoske, ok take it out and plug it in, and then do dmesg | tail and see exactly what it is called
[06:32] <wilo> madman91: yes
[06:32] <bruenig> Zjoske, /dev/sda1 is not a mount point
[06:32] <madman91> wilo: it is unadvised to edit a harddrive you are running on
[06:32] <madman91> wilo: so you would need to use a live cd.. like ubuntu
[06:32] <Zjoske> (i mean a device point)
[06:32] <Zjoske> :x
[06:32] <phayro> ok now i am closer i have the inf file isntalled peepsalot
[06:32] <madman91> wilo: pop you ubuntu live cd in .. and gparted will be there
[06:32] <maddy> does someone have an example config for me?
[06:32] <madman91> wilo: then make sure they are unmounted.. and do the delete i told you
[06:32] <wilo> madman91: CAN I RESIZE MY WINDOWS PARTION AND USE IT THROUGH UBUNTU
[06:32] <bruenig> Zjoske, just see what dmesg says and then go from there
[06:32] <peepsalot> phayro, try to run ndisgtk and see if you can enable it from there
[06:32] <wilo> madman91: I JUST NEED ABOUT 20 GB MORE SPACE THEN I CURRENTLY HAVE
[06:32] <bruenig> !caps | wilo
[06:32] <ubotu> wilo: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:32] <wilo> soz for caps lock
[06:33] <peepsalot> phayro, did you get ndisgtk installed?
[06:33] <concept10> kick
[06:33] <bruenig> wilo, somehow you got the names out
[06:33] <phayro> xcept it shows my card as eth0
[06:33] <phayro> no cant get it in
[06:33] <yimmmy> my spare hdd when i try to put a file on it it says you are not allowed to do this
[06:33] <yimmmy> my spare hdd when i try to put a file on it it says you are not allowed to do this
[06:33] <yimmmy> opps
[06:33] <nambis> has anyone ever used microsoft's ifs manager?
[06:33] <madman91> wilo: you can use the rest of your windows partition.. or you can remove mandriva .. up to you
[06:33] <bruenig> yimmmy, what is the filesystem?
[06:34] <madman91> wilo: or.. just resize mandriva
[06:34] <yimmmy> what do u mean by file system
[06:34] <bruenig> yimmmy, fat32, ext3 ...
[06:34] <yimmmy> oh
[06:34] <yimmmy> nts
[06:34] <yimmmy> i think
[06:34] <Zjoske> bruenig: ill paste it on paste.ubuntu-nl.org....
[06:34] <yimmmy> somthing wiht an n in it
[06:35] <Goldfisch> !space | yimmy
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about space - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <madman91> wilo: .. you can resize the windows partition..  but then what would you mount the new partition for ubuntu as?
[06:35] <bruenig> yimmmy, pastebin your /etc/fstab
[06:35] <bruenig> !paste | yimmmy
[06:35] <ubotu> yimmmy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:35] <yimmmy> what
[06:35] <Zjoske> bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20450/ check it out, there is no device point created...
[06:35] <wilo> madman91: DUNNO
[06:35] <wilo> dunon fukin caps :(
[06:35] <Goldfisch> !punctuation | yimmmy
[06:35] <ubotu> yimmmy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:35] <madman91> wilo: sorry i cant help more now.. i have to go.. but you can ask around
[06:36] <Zjoske> bruenig: but as you can see, ubuntu sees the device...
[06:36] <wilo> madman91: THANKS FOR YOUR HELP :)
[06:36] <baudthief> bur[n] er: same deal with vlc :(
[06:36] <madman91> wilo: i will be back on tommorow.. or you can try here .. or #ubuntu-effects
[06:36] <yimmmy> ok
[06:37] <DarkRAM> Zjoske, I dont even seen USB messages when Idmesg | tail like you do. :(
[06:37] <bruenig> Zjoske, do it again after that, the name generally shows up after that point
[06:37] <madman91> wilo: check pm.. good luck and good bye
[06:37] <Zjoske> bruenig: how you mean?
[06:37] <bruenig> Zjoske, here is what mine looks like for instance
[06:37] <bruenig> scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access              USB DISK 2.0     PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[06:37] <bruenig> SCSI device sdf: 2015232 512-byte hdwr sectors (1032 MB)
[06:37] <Zjoske> re plugin the device?
[06:37] <bruenig> Zjoske, you dmesg a second too early
[06:38] <baudthief> bur[n] er: My card is a GeForce 7600GS (AGP) / 256MB Ram, I bought it just for ubuntu, my ATi card had some issues that couldn't be resolved
[06:38] <Zjoske> no i don't bruenig
[06:38] <Zjoske> cause i now do dmesg again and it still doesnt show the device point...
[06:38] <Zjoske> the same output
[06:38] <eobanb> has anyone tried using their R300-based ati radeon with the open source radeon driver? i would like to know how stable/reliable the 3D acceleration is.
[06:39] <theTrav> hmm, this wireless thing is giving me no love.  I've followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106846&highlight=HOWTO+rt2570
[06:39] <Goldfisch> bruenig: It looks like /dev/sdf is the point, no?
[06:39] <theTrav> when I get to the ifconfig rausb0 up step it tells me that the device doesn't exist
[06:40] <sgtmattbaker> anyone seen spiderman3 yet
[06:40] <yimmmy> tomorow
[06:40] <eobanb> !offtopic
[06:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:40] <sgtmattbaker> yimmmy: have you read any reviews
[06:40] <yimmmy> heck yes
[06:40] <breno_> hi
[06:40] <yimmmy> i want to get this linux working tough
[06:40] <breno_> hey... where can i find some help about mysql in ubuntu?
[06:41] <eobanb> !mysql
[06:41] <Mirage> HI.
[06:41] <breno_> yes
[06:41] <sgtmattbaker> yimmmy: what are they saying in the reviews? ; what do you need help with
[06:41] <eobanb> !offtopic | sgtmattbaker
[06:41] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:41] <Goldfisch> sgtmattbaker: No, but I'm waiting for the pinball game to come out!
[06:41] <ubotu> sgtmattbaker: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:41] <yimmmy> my spare hdd when i try to put a file on it it says you are not allowed to do this
[06:41] <Mirage> I was wondering, is it particularly hard to get Grub up and working again if I install Windows after having already installed Ubuntu?
[06:41] <XLV_feisty> anyone managed to run hddtemp on feisty? i read with some preliminary search in the web that it has problems with some latest kernels
[06:41] <Mirage> I know it's best to install windows first, then ubuntu, but this is no longer possible
[06:41] <sgtmattbaker> eobanb: um have you seen ubuntu-offtopic?  like 8 people.
[06:42] <theTrav> hmm, ok at the network interface restart it fails to sort out rausb01
[06:42] <breno_> I set my password in the wrong way, i put breno and the correctilye is passwor('breno') what can i do now????
[06:42] <breno_> in mysql
[06:42] <yimmmy> i need to know how the freak to use this
[06:43] <sgtmattbaker> yimmmy: what are you trying to do
[06:43] <Goldfisch> breno_: Enter mysql as user root, then update like -> grant blah on 'breno'@'hostname' identified by 'password';
[06:43] <theTrav> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20451/
[06:43] <theTrav> can anyone tell me what that output means?
[06:43] <yimmmy> get my hdd to work i i dont know how to dl stuff and run them
[06:43] <Mirage> !grub
[06:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:43] <theTrav> I think it's the relevant section
[06:43] <phayro> hey peepsalot thanks for the help, i am nearly there
[06:44] <theTrav> from the command sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:44] <yimmmy> my hdd is a spare i want to store stuff on but somthing wont let me
[06:44] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: Followed the WIPE everything. Is that all? Or shall I Make the array too?
[06:44] <peepsalot> phayro, no prob
[06:44] <sgtmattbaker> fimmy: get your hdd to work and d/l stuff? I dont understand..
[06:44] <peepsalot> wish someone knew about my prob though
[06:44] <yimmmy> my hdd is a spare i want to store stuff on but somthing wont let me
[06:44] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: Well, that procedure is for building a new RAID array, and wiping out any previous RAID data it had. If you don't want to build a new array, then you can skip the rest of the procedure.
[06:44] <yimmmy> i want to dl torrents and apps
[06:44] <sgtmattbaker> yimmy: type /msg sgtmattbaker serv
[06:44] <yimmmy> when i do i dont knwo how to run them
[06:44] <phayro> peepsalot now i an trying to figure out the damn ndiswrappeer but would like a front end
[06:45] <peepsalot> phayro, what do you mean ndisgtk is a frontend, have you run it yet?
[06:45] <ant-> whats linux version of limewire called?
[06:45] <ingrid232> i have a usb drive (fat filesystem) i want to mount it so I own it, not root. how do i do this?
[06:45] <ingrid232> ant-, frostwire
[06:45] <phayro> peepsalot i cant get it to install
[06:45] <ant-> ingrid232 : thanks
[06:45] <phayro> keeps givin me erros
[06:45] <yimmmy> i cant use frostwire either i want to
[06:45] <yimmmy> but i cant
[06:46] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: Ok, now, I did that to /dev/md0 and /dev/md1... but either sdb1 or sdc1 didn't go too well.
[06:46] <peepsalot> phayro, did you try getting the dependency packages that it says it needs?
[06:46] <sgtmattbaker> yimmmy: I sent you a pm please respond
[06:46] <phayro> yes
[06:46] <ingrid232> yimmmy, try gtk-gnutella. its less pretty, but it works pretty well
[06:46] <irotas> for some reason, whenever i close my laptop for a while and re-open it, my X display becomes distorted .. about a 1/8" of the right-hand side of the screen is being shown on the left-hand side instead
[06:46] <cafuego> sgtmattbaker: yimmy is not a registered user, so probably can't respond.
[06:46] <irotas> i don't know if this makes any sense .. hopefully someone has seen this before
[06:46] <peepsalot> phayro, so what is the error now?
[06:46] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: They were giving sample devices. What ARE the hard drives on your system? The idea is to apply it to the partitions you previously marked at type "Linux RAID Autodetect".
[06:46] <bayziders> Can some one recommend a front row type program?
[06:46] <sgtmattbaker> cafuego: oh ok
[06:47] <sgtmattbaker> yimmmy: do you have a AIM or Jabber nick?
[06:47] <yimmmy> aim
[06:47] <yimmmy> can u help me
[06:47] <sgtmattbaker> what is it?
[06:47] <peepsalot> phayro, you need to install the dependencies separately before you can install ndisgtk, did you do that?
[06:47] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: To get a read out on the partition tables, you can execute "sudo fdisk -l /dev/<harddrive>" like /dev/hda.
[06:47] <yimmmy> xbxmodd3r
[06:47] <yimmmy> is my aimname
[06:47] <phayro> peepsalot yeah i got that
[06:47] <Goldfisch> !punctuation | yimmmy
[06:47] <ubotu> yimmmy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:48] <yimmmy> ok
[06:48] <ingrid232> i have a usb drive (fat filesystem) i want to mount it so I own it, not root. how do i do this? chown doesnt work.
[06:48] <peepsalot> phayro, what is the error during ndisgtk install then?
[06:48] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: I think I messed up again. Before you could reply, I went on the install CD, and I still see an array there. Let me reboot and try those methods, thanks. Is there a way to go to a shell immediately when the Ubuntu menu comes up?
[06:49] <theTrav> hmm, ok, well modprobe -l | grep rt25 gives me a butt load of modules
[06:49] <yimmmy> i need help im on aim xbxmodd3r
[06:49] <theTrav> only one of them is rt2570
[06:49] <phayro> what is the install command again
[06:49] <bayziders> Does any one have a recommendation?
[06:49] <theTrav> how do I check if that module is loaded/working/running whatever it has to be doing?
[06:49] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: Regular Ubuntu Live CD? Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal.
[06:49] <Shoeb> No, I don't even have an OS.
[06:49] <Shoeb> I'm talking about right from the install CD.
[06:50] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: What type of CD are you using, so I can give you a valid answer.
[06:50] <phayro> it says that ndis wrapper utils is not installed but it is
[06:50] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: Server install CD, PC.
[06:50] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: Feisty.
[06:50] <theTrav> ok, I think lsmod | grep rt2570 was what I was looking for
[06:51] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: I am not familiar with navigating that. Maybe they have a shell option. ???
[06:51] <EcoBlue> hello
[06:51] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: I have used the Alternate CD and the Live CD, but not the Server CD.
[06:51] <phayro> it says that ndis wrapper utils is not installed but it is and i just installed it agian and tryied and it says the same thing
[06:51] <theTrav> it returns two lines, one with the module and another one called usbcore
[06:51] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: No no, it's the first menu.. you know how it asks "Install to the hard disk" "Boot from Hard disk".. and etc etc?
[06:51] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: I'm pretty sure it's the same menu you get when you boot up the alternate CD.
[06:51] <Shoeb> Or almost.
[06:52] <theTrav> I guess that means my module is loaded
[06:52] <Goldfisch> Is there some type of "Rescue" option towards the bottom?
[06:52] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: Yup, 3rd op[tion
[06:52] <EcoBlue> I'm downloading the Ubuntu 7.04 32 bit edition due to Sabayon not liking this computer. Any recommendations as to software to install?
[06:52] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: That should work. It dumps you into a shell, and probably offers options about mounting drives.
[06:52] <ziroday> EcoBlue: beryl
[06:52] <EcoBlue> ok
[06:52] <EcoBlue> I'll get that
[06:52] <tootu> /EcoBlue
[06:53] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: I wish, lol, it goes through the whole initial config. Lemme try now.
[06:53] <theTrav> dang, gotta go.  I'll be back to harass for more help later
[06:53] <Electricity> Cmo fijo yo mi sonido en el ttem?
[06:53] <skinnypuppy1334> Anyone else built a breezy or edgy virtual machine on VMServer running on Feisty? XP went no prob, edgy and dapper will both boot a virtual machine but nothing happens when you click the install icon and eventually that virtual machine will become unresponsive.. Any ideas??
[06:53] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: Are you trying to install the root server system on RAID? Does the Server edition do that, or do you need to be using the Alternate CD. (That's why I use ALternate, to get root-on-LVM-on-RAID).
[06:53] <EcoBlue> is Ubuntu 7.04 much better than 6.06
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> !es | Electricity
[06:53] <ubotu> Electricity: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:53] <Electricity> Yo no hablo espaol
[06:54] <Electricity> I was using a transloator script ;P Anyway, how do I fix sound in Totem? I get sound everywhere but there
[06:54] <ziroday> EcoBlue: yes
[06:55] <titun> i am having problem booting to feisty, which worked fill until now, loading grub gives Error 17
[06:55] <kalifornia909> !cli
[06:55] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:55] <titun> and booting from older versions of Ubuntu as liveCd gives hda1 error
[06:55] <cein> i'm having trouble setting up scim
[06:55] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: I've been trying to do that for 3 hours now, Goldfisch , lol.. go figure, eh. I wanted to use Alternate, but I worry if it'll not have serverish components.
[06:56] <cein> i can run it, i have the languages i want selected in the setup
[06:56] <skinnypuppy1334> Whats the VMware chanel on this server?
[06:56] <Electricity> Wie repariere ich Klang in Totem?
[06:56] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: Well, I guess it does support root on RAID. I just spotted http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Server_Install_With_Software_RAID.
[06:56] <cein> but when i click the scim icon there aren't any choices in the popup menu
[06:56] <Shoeb> I wish I could find things like this so easily.. sigh
[06:57] <Electricity> Necesito el sonido de fijar de ayuda en el ttem...
[06:57] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: Maybe you need the alternate CD to get LVM-on-RAID. I think Server CD basically installs ubuntu with the X components, making for a smaller footprint. If resources aren't a problem, I don't have any issue with using the desktop installation.
[06:57] <Goldfisch> !google | Shoeb
[06:57] <ubotu> Shoeb: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[06:57] <Shoeb> But desktop install gives a lot of crap I wouldn't need.
[06:57] <Electricity> Why doesn't sound work in totem?
[06:58] <Shoeb> LOL, thanks for that Goldfisch. Really appreciate it! :P
[06:58] <kalifornia909> anyone here use handbrake
[06:59] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: BTW, that fdisk command you gave me doesn't report anything.
[06:59] <bayziders> Sorry to ask this again but I really would like an answer, is there a front row type app for ubuntu?
[06:59] <Electricity> Why doesn't sound work in totem?
[06:59] <phayro> how can i get ubuntu to see my wireless card as wlan instead of eth0
[07:00] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: What slots/channels are you harddrives plugged in to? IDE0, IDE1 or SATA 1 and SATA 2?
[07:00] <Electricity> phayro, hit it repeatedly?
[07:00] <ziroday> bayziders: you mean to like work wif a remote control?
[07:00] <bayziders> no, key bored is fine
[07:00] <titun> while booting from live Cd i got a lots of error like [some number]  Buffer I/O Error on device hda1, logical block some number
[07:00] <phayro> Electricity yeah but i meant like and still work :)
[07:00] <bayziders> Nero Home might be a better example
[07:00] <kalifornia909> how do i use a program with it's own cli
[07:00] <titun> and after booting my /media has nothing
[07:00] <|chiz|> phayro, did you have no luck with iwconfig?
[07:00] <titun> does this mean my hdd is not mounted?
[07:01] <skylight> need help with Gnome
[07:01] <kalifornia909> !cli
[07:01] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:01] <phayro> |chiz|gives me eth0 and i tried reconfig with iwconfig and saysoperation not permitted
[07:01] <gswain> evening guys ;) I have fiesty fawn on my puter and my volume is so low i can barely hear anything coming out of the speakers,, my mixer is turned all the way up and so are my programs
[07:02] <titun> Possum: remember me! i had a grub problem before 30 minutes
[07:02] <|chiz|> phayro, you might have to do it as root
[07:02] <XLV_feisty> "sudo smartctl -T permissive -a -d ata /dev/sda" shows s.m.a.r.t. values, i find temp value, its 194, i add it into hddtemp.db. still sudo hddtemp /dev/sda gives /dev/sda: Maxtor 6L250S0                  : drive is sleeping
[07:02] <skylight> can a HUMAN help me
[07:02] <phayro> ok
[07:02] <phayro> bbiab
[07:02] <titun> Possum: still can't boot
[07:02] <bayziders> ziroday: you there?
[07:02] <defrysk> gswain, open gnome-volume-control and check
[07:02] <skylight> i need to change the Ubuntu Icon
[07:02] <ziroday> bayziders: sorry went to go get a drink what u say?
[07:02] <kalifornia909> how do i run a program that has it's own CLI
[07:03] <XLV_feisty> anyone managed to run hddtemp properly on feisty?
[07:03] <ziroday> skylight: go to /home/<username>/.icons
[07:03] <Electricity> Why doesn't sound work in totem?
[07:03] <Electricity> Why doesn't sound work in totem?
[07:03] <skylight> ok
[07:03] <bayziders> ziroday: That no it doesn't need a remote, I guess Nero home might be a better example
[07:03] <ziroday> skylight: then in your current icon directory
[07:03] <Talaman72> does this  --  my @warn allow me to does $warn?
[07:03] <ziroday> bayziders: not that i kno of sorry
[07:03] <Talaman72> eeer   does this  --  my @warn allow me to do $warn?
[07:04] <bayziders> =/
[07:04] <orbin> !repeat | Electricity
[07:04] <ubotu> Electricity: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:04] <orbin> Electricity: files/dvds?
[07:04] <Talaman72> wrong place
[07:04] <Electricity> It's not a DV
[07:04] <Talaman72> lol
[07:04] <Electricity> It's not a DVD
[07:04] <Electricity> It's a movie I downloaded
[07:04] <hreiser> free reiser
[07:04] <skylight> ok
[07:04] <gswain> defrysk: all the way up,, just double checked
[07:04] <kalifornia909> is there a way to mount a drive on another linux machine on my machine
[07:04] <orbin> Electricity: then probably a codec issue.  have you had a look at the restricted formats page on the wiki?
[07:05] <defrysk> gswain, also pcm is up ?
[07:05] <kalifornia909> !network Drive
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network drive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <skylight> but my username isnt in the home directory
[07:05] <defrysk> master, pcm and if you play a cd also cd
[07:05] <skylight> sorry
[07:05] <skylight> i mean theres no Icons under my username
[07:05] <gswain> defrysk: pcm is what i checked
[07:05] <defrysk> gswain, and master ?
[07:05] <gswain> defrysk: i dont see a master
[07:05] <|chiz|> kalifornia909, its possible you just need to figure out the mount command or the fstab syntax
[07:06] <Sleepy_Coder> Was there a netsplit recently?
[07:06] <bagualas> What software may I use to burn some videos to DVD ? Like I have a movie downloaded, and want to be show on DVD
[07:06] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: You know what, I have no clue.. this mobo is real bad. And I looked, and I can't tlel.
[07:06] <|chiz|> kalifornia909, is the drive on a samba share?
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> !burners | bagualas
[07:06] <ubotu> bagualas: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[07:06] <defrysk> gswain, righclick the volume icon, open volumecontrol and oyu should see a bunch of slides
[07:06] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: It doesn't even say it right! :(
[07:07] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: Are your harddrives SATA or ATA? Do they have tiny cables running out, or a wide ribbon cable?
[07:07] <bagualas> tonyyarusso, but they convert to the format of the DVD ? Like i will be able to see on a normal DVD
[07:07] <kalifornia909> chiz, yes the machine i want to mount from is samba shared
[07:07] <|chiz|> then yes it definitely possible to setup
[07:07] <gswain> defrysk: when i do that, i have a slide for pcm and one for mic,, they are both all the way up
[07:07] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: ATA
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> bagualas: At least some of those - not sure about options in all of them.  Gnomebaker and K3b I would guess do.
[07:07] <kalifornia909> |chiz| where should i look
[07:08] <bagualas> tonyyarusso, i will take a look, ths very much :D
[07:08] <ziroday> skylight: go to /home/<username>/.icons/<current theme name>/scalable/places and copy your logo in there 3 times and name one distributer-logo.png, one start-here.png and one gnome-main-menu.png
[07:08] <defrysk> gswain, select edit > preferences in volume control and select the missing master
[07:08] <ziroday> skylight: then restart your xserver
[07:08] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: Okay, they are probably identified as either /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, /dev/hdc, or /dev/hdd. Just try "sudo fdisk -l <disk>" for each of them, and see what you get.
[07:08] <skylight> ok
[07:08] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: /dev/hda is ide0:0, /dev/hdb is ide0:1, and so forth.
[07:08] <|chiz|> kalifornia909, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_mount.2Funmount_CD.2FDVD-ROM_manually.2C_and_show_all_hidden_and_associated_files.2Ffolders
[07:09] <ziroday> skylight: got that?
[07:09] <defrysk> gswain, and if you have no cd option also cd
[07:09] <gswain> defrysk: in edit/pref they are all checked
[07:09] <skylight> whats the xserver
[07:09] <defrysk> gswain, then I do not know
[07:09] <zeekstarr> how do I burn a video dvd from an avi?
[07:09] <SurfnKid> whats another desktop manager besides metacity?
[07:09] <SurfnKid> that i can use with beryl
[07:09] <defrysk> gswain, unless the volume button is low on your speakers
[07:09] <ziroday> !xserver | skylight
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <|chiz|> kalifornia909, sorry wrong link
[07:10] <skylight> but where do i restart it at
[07:10] <ziroday> skylight: xserver is what runs your screen and graphics card
[07:10] <skylight> but where do i restart it at
[07:10] <strabes> SurfnKid: to my knowledge you can use any DE...
[07:10] <ziroday> skylight: to restart it press ctrl-alt-delete
[07:10] <skylight> ok
[07:10] <Oewyn> I'm having some issues compiling AVview, and it's complaining about XvQueryAdaptors and some other related things, i believe AVview requires libvideogfx, but there isn't a package for that, and i can't seem to compile that either.  Anyone have any ideas?
[07:10] <skylight> hey dont leave im gonna try it all
[07:10] <skylight> brb
[07:10] <SurfnKid> strabes, ok
[07:11] <orbin> skylight: it won't do anything
[07:11] <ziroday> skylight: have fun
[07:11] <skinnypuppy1334> I'm wanting to upgrade my tower, I want better response when using CAD. What would be more responsive? A dual processor setup with dual amd 2400's and 266 mhz ram , or a single dual core with 800mhz fsb?
[07:11] <Saied> can anyone help me in usplash?
[07:11] <|chiz|> kalifornia909, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_mount_network_folders_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read
[07:11] <ziroday> orbin: y not?
[07:11] <orbin> skylight: it's ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:11] <orbin> :)
[07:11] <ziroday> orbin: oh yeah woops god i feel stupid today
[07:11] <zeekstarr> am I asking wrong? how do I burn an avi do dvd so i can watch it on my dvd player
[07:12] <ziroday> skylight: u still there i made a mistake
[07:12] <jeffwheeler> What, at this time, is the best way to have a regularly backed-up system to an external hd? rsync it there?
[07:12] <obiwan_> hello - can anyone help me running cthugha under feisty ?
[07:12] <orbin> ziroday: have you been playing in windows again? :P
[07:12] <skylight> ok
[07:12] <skylight> it says the start.png logo name is allreayd in use
[07:12] <skylight> and wont let me save over it
[07:12] <defrysk> zeekstarr, ffmpeg -i blah.avi -target pal-dvd (or ntsc-dvd) blah.mpg
[07:12] <SirBob1701_> hey guys are their any tests i can do on an ethernet port by connecting a laptop to it to help find out why i'm not getting an ip?
[07:12] <ziroday> skylight: its ctrl-alt-backspace to restart your xserver
[07:12] <skylight> The name "start-here.png" is already used in this folder. Please use a different name.
[07:13] <zeekstarr> defrysk: it has to be mpg?
[07:13] <defrysk> zeekstarr, dvdauthor -o dvd blah.avi
[07:13] <jeffwheeler> SirBob1701_: ifconfig
[07:13] <skylight> dlete the other image
[07:13] <ziroday> skylight: then delete it or move it away from that folder
[07:13] <skylight> ok
[07:13] <ziroday> skylight: yeah
[07:13] <defrysk> zeekstarr, dvdauthor -o dvd -T
[07:13] <skylight> hmm i dont seem to see it though
[07:14] <ziroday> skylight: what do you mean
[07:14] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: GOT IT, I think. :D
[07:14] <skylight> the image start-here.png i dont see it
[07:14] <defrysk> zeekstarr, growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video dvd/
[07:14] <obiwan_> i need some tipps for the cthugha-package - please help !!!
[07:14] <defrysk> zeekstarr, that it on the cli
[07:14] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: Well, which drives are they? (Inquiring minds want to know).
[07:14] <skylight> can i run a search
[07:14] <arya^> anyone feel like recommending a motherboard that wont hang before, during or after the ubuntu install process?
[07:15] <defrysk> thats*
[07:15] <skylight> ahh i found it
[07:15] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: hda/hdb
[07:15] <skylight> ok
[07:15] <Goldfisch> Okay, so instead of doing that wipe operation on /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdc1 like the procedure said, instead you need to execute it probably against /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdb1. Whatever partitions were marked at Linux Raid Autodetect.
[07:15] <Saied> can anyone help me in usplash?
[07:16] <ziroday> Saied: whats wrong?
[07:16] <Jordan_U> Saied, What is the question?
[07:16] <arya^> oh, and on a side note: stay away from: Abit AB9, Asus P5N, Asus P5B mobos, unless you have worlds of time to spend hacking kernel code...
[07:16] <Matir> arya^, what's the issue with those mobos?
[07:16] <Matir> chipset?
[07:17] <XLV_feisty> arya^, i am thinking of getting the asus p5n sli, what problems does it have?
[07:17] <Saied> ziroday, Jordan_U: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2639324#post2639324
[07:17] <zeekstarr> after the command how do I burn it? it seems to have worked, it made the files
[07:17] <DLB|Maximus> does anyone know what i have to do to get double buffering with an ati card, i think i have the ati driver....
[07:17] <skylight> it dodnt seem to work
[07:17] <skylight> didnt*
[07:17] <Saied> ziroday, Jordan_U: it is too emergency. please guide me
[07:17] <zeekstarr> actually it didn't work, 64k file size
[07:17] <defrysk> zeekstarr, you made an mpeg of it already ?
[07:17] <Jordan_U> DLB|Maximus, Check System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager
[07:17] <Anguis> Hi, folks - I just installed Feisty 64 alt, but am unable to boot into it. Any pointers?
[07:17] <defrysk> must be a very short movie
[07:17] <arya^> XLV_feisty, SATA controller support
[07:18] <Anguis> It installed properly, from what I can tell.
[07:18] <SirBob1701_> does the fact that i get a 169 ip mean anything other then i just didn't connect?
[07:18] <arya^> Matir, each one had a different issue =\
[07:18] <zeekstarr> I did it and it said "WARN: SKipping sector, waiting for first VOBU..."
[07:18] <zeekstarr> a bunch of times
[07:18] <Mirage> Why am I only able to share my user directory when I go to the SMB manager?
[07:18] <Anguis> I get to GRUB and then the computer crashes.
[07:18] <Saied> ziroday, Jordan_U: any idea ?
[07:19] <defrysk> zeekstarr, to burn the dvd folder :
[07:19] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[07:19] <arya^> Anyway, I've got an intel LGA775 cpu, and DDR2 ram, was hoping to find a motherboard with at least 4 SATA ports (that _actually_ worked) ...
[07:19] <ziroday> skylight: what format is the image you want?
[07:19] <defrysk> zeekstarr, growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video dvd
[07:19] <Jordan_U> Saied, Is the problem with the splash or that Ubuntu won't boot ( hangs at configuring X ) ?
[07:19] <Anguis> Actually, I get through GRUB, am able to select ubuntu, and then the crash.
[07:19] <skylight> .png
[07:19] <hreiser> lol there are none arya^
[07:19] <Mirage> If I select for example my FAT32 partition, no directories show up
[07:19] <ziroday> Saied: sorry cant see anything
[07:19] <hreiser> i just tried the exact same thing
[07:19] <Mirage> and if I try to create a directory there, I get access denied
[07:19] <pingveno> I'm having some trouble with ffmpeg and some aiff files I was given by a friend
[07:19] <DLB|Maximus> Jordan_U: says not in use... i think i tried it but had it messed up my beryl, do you know what the ati open source driver is refered as in xorg.conf, isnt it fglrx?
[07:19] <hreiser> my ELITEGROUP mobo failede hard
[07:19] <hreiser> but what do u except from something named ELITEGROUP
[07:19] <arya^> *#&$(&@#
[07:19] <hendaus> helpers i want a help!!
[07:20] <ziroday> skylight: did you put in your icon theme you are currently using?
[07:20] <XLV_feisty> arya^, the one in nforce 650sli? what problems exactly you had with it?
[07:20] <pingveno> I keep getting the message filename.aiff: Error while parsing header
[07:20] <|chiz|> Anguis, if you edit the grub command to remove splash and quiet it will give you a play by play of what it is doing, it might help you out
[07:20] <Saied> Jordan_U: no . the X server can run and my KDE (kubuntu) is running but i want usplash dont be hide
[07:20] <disinterested> ! question
[07:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:20] <jhon> Hi
[07:21] <Jordan_U> DLB|Maximus, Beryl will not work ( without the ugly hack that is XGL ) with the proprietary driver ( fglrx ) so if you want beryl then stay with what you have ( "ati" )
[07:21] <jhon> some body knows how to fix suspend trouble in Ubuntu Dapper ?
[07:21] <SirBob1701_> grr this network issue is pisisng me off cuase i think i broke my fing port
[07:21] <arya^> XLV_feisty, it's a known bug with that mobo, though I didnt try feisty...
[07:21] <Anguis> ok, got a linkfor editing GRUB, or is it easy to find in the docs/forums? thanks
[07:21] <SirBob1701_> and i can't install the marvell drivers because i can't connect
[07:21] <Mirage> Does anyone know why I can't select other directories than my home dir in the SMB share manager? If I try to select my FAT32 partition, no directories or files show up, and if I try to create a directory with the SMB share manager, I get an "access denied" message.
[07:22] <erpo> I need to set up a feisty box so that it *never* updates the kernel. How should I do this?
[07:22] <Oewyn> Does anyone have experience in installing Avview?
[07:22] <Jordan_U> Saied, No offense, but how is that an emergency?
[07:22] <jhon> suspedn dont work, someone know how to fix that ??
[07:22] <|chiz|> Anguis, you don't need a manual, just hit e when you highlight what operating system to boot
[07:22] <XLV_feisty> arya^, http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/3826 here they report success
[07:23] <disinterested> jhon why dont u upgrade to feisty?
[07:23] <Anguis> ok, thanks - I'll give it a try.
[07:23] <Saied> Jordan_U, ziroday: when usplash hides the first message in tty is "* Setting preliminary keymap"
[07:23] <jhon> Feisty is to big to my computer, AMD 2600+, 256RAM
[07:23] <Matir> Jhon, how is that too big?
[07:24] <XLV_feisty> arya^, do you have any links describing the problem? i cant find any
[07:24] <Saied> Jordan_U: emergency because we need a customized ubuntu for promotion as soon sa possible
[07:24] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[07:24] <arya^> XLV_feisty, what's your mailing address? I'll send you my dead one and you can see for yourself :-)
[07:24] <jhon> i mean, i want ubuntu works REALLY FAST, and the only version works fine its Dapper and for the support
[07:24] <ziroday> hendaus: well since i dont know what is wrong i cant
[07:24] <Jordan_U> Saied, usplash has a hard coded timeout, I don't know where it is set unfortunately
[07:24] <hendaus> ziroday,  is there an amule if i want to copy my link as friend and send it to my friends to add me?
[07:24] <disinterested> ! question | hendaus
[07:24] <ubotu> hendaus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:25] <hendaus> disinterested,  thanx, is there an amule if i want to copy my link as friend and send it to my friends to add me?
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> !away > azteech
[07:25] <arya^> Does anyone here actually _have_ an LGA775 motherboard, SATA hard drives, working?
[07:25] <Shoeb> Goldfisch!
[07:25] <Shoeb> It worked!
[07:25] <Shoeb> Thank you sooo much.
[07:25] <Shoeb> My first RAID installation!
[07:25] <Mirage> Does anyone know why I can't select other directories than my home dir in the SMB share manager? If I try to select my FAT32 partition, no directories or files show up, and if I try to create a directory with the SMB share manager, I get an "access denied" message.
[07:25] <DLB|Maximus> Jordan_U: ok, so the proprietary driver is fglrx.... i dont want that as i remember it messed up my xorg, i was just trying to figure out if i had the open source drivers or the proprietary ones as im trying to figure out how to get double buffer working
[07:25] <jsizzle> greets, I'm putting together a spare parts box with a small hard drive, is there a way to remove a package without removing the things that supposedly depend on it? say like firefox when I use swiftfox but for some reason 10 essential things depend on it? TIA
[07:25] <Jordan_U> Saied, If it times out just a little early you may be able to "fix it" by getting Ubuntu to boot a little faster ( which I may be able to help with )
[07:25] <ziroday> hendaus: sorry i dont quite understand what you are saying
[07:25] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: No problem. I converted my home systems to RAID-1 over the past month. I like it! Especially with LVM!!!
[07:25] <disinterested> im not sure hendaus
[07:26] <jhon> Ok, i was searching a lot in internet to fix that trouble ando nobody can fix
[07:26] <Mirage> I can usually access that partition without problems
[07:26] <Saied> Jordan_U: what can i do?
[07:26] <Shoeb> Now, I don't even know how LVM comes in the picture, lol
[07:26] <jhon> if someone has the same trouble, all that you have to do its see if in your menu.lst you have the parameter VGA=791, erase!! AND WORKS!! :) I dont know why BUT FINALLY WORKS!
[07:26] <arya^> Does anyone here actually _have_ an LGA775 motherboard, SATA hard drives, working?
[07:27] <disinterested> jhon dapper has been so downgraded it would be much better to get feisty
[07:27] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: Read the rest of that article I sent from wiki.mythtv.org. It should explain all the bits and pieces. It gives you easier maintenance of disk space, and you can put it on top of RAID.
[07:27] <XLV_feisty> arya^, http://www.techimo.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2074295 this problem is what you refer to?
[07:27] <jhon> i tell you, feisty its great, but not for my laptop
[07:27] <uht> ow.irc.pl
[07:27] <hendaus> ziroday,  on windows i use emule morphex, so u can make a copy link of your username and paste it to your friends, so they can add u as friend
[07:27] <jsizzle> feisty is the best for my laptops and desktops
[07:27] <Shoeb> Ah, I just  began the installation.. but I'll definitely read up about it.
[07:28] <ziroday> hendaus: not sure sorry
[07:28] <jhon> how can i speed more my laptop without use XFCE ? (I prefer Gnome)
[07:28] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: But still, just in case.. if I want to reinstall the whole OS, and ofcourse redo the arrays.. is this how hard it's going to be? lol
[07:28] <hendaus> ok thanx anyway for help
[07:28] <orbin> jhon: get more RAM
[07:28] <Jordan_U> Saied, How early does it time out? You probably won't be able to shave off much time from boot so it probably isn't worth trying unless it times out just a little early
[07:28] <jhon> :( XP works really fast in the same machine in the other partition
[07:28] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: Of course not. Now that you understand some more of the mechanics, it won't be as difficult next time. Hopefully, you can help out someone else, and pass on what you have learned to others.
[07:29] <arya^> XLV_feisty, yeah, it was a display issue... the server install worked fine though
[07:29] <Shoeb> Goldfisch: That's usually the deal with me :)
[07:29] <Mirage> How can i change the CPU speed of my laptop under Feisty?
[07:29] <orbin> jhon: i have a 2800+ and xp crawled iwith 256MB
[07:29] <Mirage> Along with other power saving features
[07:29] <arya^> XLV_feisty, I lie, the alternate text-only install worked fine...
[07:29] <jsizzle> best release yet after standard ubuntu tune-up  :) custom kernel, ext3 optimization, host file opt, hdparm all the other usual stuff
[07:29] <Goldfisch> Shoeb: I probably "reinstalled" several times until I shook out the kinks of what was happening. That is why I "know" about this trick. I was only doing it last month. Heh.
[07:29] <XLV_feisty> arya^, display issue? have you tried safe graphics option?
[07:29] <theshadow> Would anyone know how to get mythtv to use the Tv Out (S-Video) on an nVidia card?
[07:30] <orbin> jhon: get more ram.  it's a good bang-for-your-buck upgrade
[07:30] <Shoeb> Nice.
[07:30] <jhon> some tips to speed my ubuntu ? (without more RAM :(
[07:30] <Shoeb> Thanks man.
[07:30] <arya^> XLV_feisty, yeah, tried that. unfortunately, I can't test feisty on it, because after 20 hours of working on it, I smashed it into about 30 pieces.
[07:30] <XLV_feisty> arya^, in all 64bit versions i have tried, default graphics install didnt work, but safe graphics worked
[07:30] <Jordan_U> Saied, http://news.softpedia.com/news/Optimize-Ubuntu-Feisty-Fawn-for-Speed-53836.shtml Try #1 and #4 ( again, it may not be enough )
[07:31] <|chiz|> jhon, fluxbox is great for older machines
[07:31] <arya^> XLV_feisty, only to buy the Abit AB9, and have JMicron sata controller issues :)
[07:31] <XLV_feisty> arya^, also you need to set the xserver to use vesa, not nv graphics, then install the nvidia drivers which work ok
[07:31] <jhon> to ugly ;)
[07:31] <theshadow> jhon xfce?
[07:31] <jsizzle> mirage: read this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_enable_your_CPU.27s_Power_Saving.2FFrequency_Scaling_features
[07:31] <|chiz|> jhon, how much ram do you have now?
[07:32] <Saied> Jordan_U: we have not any problem with installed mode, our problem is in live mode
[07:32] <Goldfisch> theshadow: I spotted this thread. Its a little dated, but maybe it still works -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456
[07:32] <jhon> (256mb RAM ) XFCE works nice but, i prefer Gnome :(
[07:32] <theshadow> Goldfisch: at this point I will take anything :P
[07:32] <Jordan_U> Saied, Can you get a faster CD reader maybe?
[07:32] <arya^> XLV_feisty, I wish you luck with yours :-) if you know of another one that works out of the box, let me know.
[07:33] <|chiz|> jhon, that is pretty meager
[07:33] <Saied> Jordan_U: maybe no. and i think that is not solution
[07:33] <jsizzle> mirage: that link may not work so well the copy and paste f'd up a bit but it's on ubuntuguide.org
[07:33] <Mirage> Thanks jsizzle
[07:33] <skylight> Hey its not working
[07:33] <Goldfisch> Sheob: Read the gory details on my blog site: https://scifi.homelinux.net/mediawiki/index.php/MythTV
[07:33] <theshadow> Goldfisch: ROFL thats the first guide I found, that helped me get my S-Video working like I can move my mouse over there when I'm at the login screen but I can't get mythtv to output over there... its driving me flipping mad I tells ya
[07:33] <Mirage> The link worked
[07:33] <jsizzle> Mirage: np
[07:33] <Mirage> but it's too bad there's no nice GUI tool for it :p
[07:33] <jhon> mmmmm do you think, if I install XFCE at the time with Gnome, could work or could get some troubles ?
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Saied, How soon do you need a fix?
[07:34] <Mirage> Also jsizzle, do you know a way to save the hard disk standby settings?
[07:34] <|chiz|> jhon, I had ubuntu installed on a celeron 1ghz with 256 shared memory, and I definitely found fluxbox to be much more responsive
[07:34] <jsizzle> jhon: if you install both you can just select one or other from sessions in gdm
[07:34] <Mirage> To me, it seems like they are turned off after each reboot
[07:34] <Mirage> turned off as in no power save features turned on
[07:35] <Goldfisch> theshadow: Heh. Great minds think alike....err...great minds GOOGLE alike. :)  Not sure what to make of this. Hmm, is your TV plugged in? I have noticed video cards polling if there is actually a device at other end, and disabling themselves if not the case during boot up.
[07:35] <robbie> !resolution
[07:35] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:35] <|chiz|> jhon, you can still use all the same apps as you do in gnome, even nautilus
[07:35] <evolker> quit
[07:35] <isilloke> oy
[07:35] <bill_gates> Yo.
[07:35] <jsizzle> mirage: hmm.. haven't really got into that since my laptops all have dead batteries :( but if it's not on ubuntuguide.org search google.com/linux
[07:35] <Rupert-Giles> Y0
[07:35] <Mirage> I'm using the hdparm command to set the standby timeouts for the hard disks
[07:35] <Goldfisch> Yao.
[07:36] <Mirage> as I couldn't find anywhere in the GUI to set them
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Saied, Looks like the way to set the timeout *may be* sudo usplash_write "TIMEOUT <value>"
[07:36] <jhon> its to big for download XFCE ? (to install in the same machine without reinstall or install Xubuntu )
[07:36] <Saied> Jordan_U: i found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NoUsplashTimeout
[07:36] <czarny> hello
[07:36] <Mirage> Which is a bit bad, i think
[07:36] <jsizzle> Mirage: oh, the hdparm stuff is easy, you just edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:36] <isilloke> anybody know why i get horizontal lines in the wine window
[07:36] <czarny> my question is - why after updating to 7.04 and partly to gutsy kernels started to see my ide disks as sda ??
[07:36] <czarny> generally everything is seen as scsi
[07:36] <czarny> my cdrom
[07:36] <Mirage> That way, it'll set the timeouts for the harddisks at each system boot?
[07:36] <czarny> it stops my machine from booting
[07:36] <jsizzle> mirage: at the end there's a stanza for command line just uncomment and customize as neccesary
[07:36] <isilloke> i guessit doesn't have the same vertical refreshment as te screen
[07:37] <isilloke> but why?
[07:37] <tritium> czarny: gutsy questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[07:37] <Mirage> Doesn't sound like a too hard thing to implement in the powersave GUI settings
[07:37] <Mirage> If I knew how to code, I could have tried :p
[07:37] <eobanb> has anyone tried using their R300-based ati radeon with the open source radeon driver? i would like to know how stable/reliable the 3D acceleration is.
[07:38] <czarny> tritium: nevertheless should feisty use sg_mod to have everythins as a scsi device ?
[07:38] <jsizzle> mirage: just go into services and make sure hdparm is checked so it starts with your system
[07:38] <Jordan_U> Saied, If you know how to chroot in and create a custom LiveCD try running this in the chroot: sudo usplash_write "TIMEOUT 120"
[07:38] <jsizzle> mirage: but even if that is set the default config file does nothing unless you uncomment something and customize it
[07:38] <tritium> czarny: in general, don't try out packages (especially kernels) from an unstable release, unless you can tolerate occasional problems
[07:38] <Jordan_U> Saied, info obtained from: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75132.html
[07:39] <czarny> tritium: I know, I'm a PLD developer
[07:39] <jsizzle> czarny: it does that on my dad's laptop and it seems to work fine, I went with the old "if it ain't broke..."
[07:39] <HiddenHax> does anyone know where to get the tahoma.ttf font ?? Other than the core fonts.
[07:39] <tritium> PLD?
[07:39] <czarny> tritium: Polish Linux Distribution
[07:39] <tritium> oh, sorry, not familiar
[07:40] <czarny> jsizzle: it started to make all Your disks scsii?
[07:40] <unix_infidel> anyone here running on a dell D620?
[07:40] <Saied> Jordan_U: what is the scale of 120 ?
[07:40] <czarny> tritium: do't be sorry :)
[07:40] <tritium> czarny: :)
[07:40] <Jordan_U> Saied, Looks like seconds
[07:41] <jsizzle> czarny: yeah but it just looks that way it emulates them as scsi and they still show up as their normal devs, it's interesting but since its working great I haven't bothered with looking into it yet. right now I'm trying to remove firefox on feisty without bringing down the whole f'in thing
[07:41] <jordan_> hey guys, is there a good / effective file recovery system for ubuntu?
[07:41] <jordan_> as in, from past partitions?
[07:41] <unix_infidel> jordan_: fsck.
[07:42] <czarny> jsizzle: did the transition go without problems to You?
[07:42] <isilloke>  oy
[07:42] <isilloke>  i think my wine window doesn't haave the same refreshment as the screen
[07:42] <isilloke>  how can i fix it?
[07:42] <isilloke>  i get unstable horizontal lines
[07:42] <czarny> jsizzle: I've found my /etc/fstab to be updated
[07:42] <jsizzle> jordan_: past partitions you've already made new partitions over top of?
[07:42] <tritium> jsizzle: you can remove firefox with no problem.
[07:42] <jordan_> jsizzle: yes
[07:42] <czarny> jsizzle: but grubs menu.lst wasn't
[07:42] <czarny> jsizzle: which coused problems
[07:42] <jsizzle> czarny: I didn't do an upgrade I always do seperate /home so I just formated / and installed feisty
[07:43] <newbie2006> Im running a laptop on ubuntu im wonderning how do i plug in an external monitor ????
[07:43] <jsizzle> tritium: it wants to take some stuff I like with it :(
[07:43] <newbie2006> anyone know how to get an external monitor to work on a laptop ???
[07:44] <jsizzle> tritium: know a way around that?
[07:44] <tritium> !ubuntu-dekstop | jsizzle
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-dekstop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <robbie> I've followed the FAQ, but I am still missing my native resolution in Xorg, which is 1280*1024. Right now I have 1280*960, which makes everything slightly distorted. I'm new to this, and don't know what I need to do to change it. 1280*1024 is listed in my Xorg.conf as a mode, but it's not available...
[07:44] <tritium> !ubuntu-desktop | jsizzle
[07:44] <ubotu> jsizzle: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[07:44] <Saied> jordan_Jordan_U : i need some time to test . thanks
[07:44] <unix_infidel> anyone here running ubuntu on a d620?
[07:44] <unix_infidel> (Dell)
[07:44] <Jordan_U> Saied, I may have misunderstood something now that I look at the man page...
[07:45] <newbie2006> how do i get my external screen to work on a laptop
[07:45] <Jordan_U> Saied,  "usplash_write - send commands to a running usplash daemon" So just running the command probably does not make a permanent change
[07:46] <avis> is there a good WYSIWYG html editor for feisty ?  package nvu seems to be missing from the repos
[07:46] <newbie2006> in windows i just push the fn key then f4
[07:46] <jsizzle> tritium: ok, I'm removing that now but it also wanted mplayer, we'll see if it changes its tune after the ubuntu-desktop uninstall
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> !nvu > avis
[07:46] <isilloke>  oy
[07:46] <isilloke>  i think my wine window doesn't haave the same refreshment as the screen
[07:46] <isilloke>  how can i fix it?
[07:46] <isilloke>  i get unstable horizontal lines
[07:46] <newbie2006> HOW DO I GET MY MONITOR TO CONNECT TO MY LAPTOP ANYONE KNOW ?
[07:47] <tritium> no need to yell, newbie2006
[07:47] <Saied> jordan_Jordan_U : yaah . the problem exists
[07:47] <jsizzle> tritium: it still wants to take ubuntu-restricted-extras and mplayer-mozilla which I want for swiftfox to use :(
[07:47] <czarny> newbie2006: YOu get the chord from the monitor and plug it into the laptop
[07:47] <newbie2006> ive plugged it in
[07:47] <strabes> newbie2006: restart your computer?
[07:47] <selkies> does ubuntu have a firewall enabled by default?
[07:47] <Jordan_U> !dual head | newbie2006
[07:47] <ubotu> newbie2006: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[07:47] <czarny> newbie2006: most laptops have special keys to switch between displays
[07:48] <robbie> I've followed the FAQ, but I am still missing my native resolution in Xorg, which is 1280*1024. Right now I have 1280*960, which makes everything slightly distorted. I'm new to this, and don't know what I need to do to change it. 1280*1024 is listed in my Xorg.conf as a mode, but it's not available...
[07:48] <czarny> newbie2006: or key combinations
[07:48] <newbie2006> whats the key combination ?
[07:48] <HiddenHax> avis sry "Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems"
[07:48] <jsizzle> newbie2006: is there perhaps a <Fn> + F(1-12) key combo like most laptops?
[07:48] <peepsalot> how can i get my kernel drivers source and vie wit?
[07:48] <peepsalot> view it
[07:48] <newbie2006> yeh that wnt work
[07:48] <tritium> jsizzle: hmm?  It doesn't depend on those packages...
[07:48] <newbie2006> fn key wnt respond
[07:48] <Twisties> HALP
[07:48] <HiddenHax> avis that would be great
[07:48] <selkies> does ubuntu have a firewall enabled by default?
[07:48] <czarny> newbie2006: well - fn + some F something
[07:48] <Twisties> sound card
[07:48] <avis> ok HiddenHax
[07:48] <cafuego> selkies: no
[07:48] <Oewyn> does anyone know how to install the libvideogfx library, there is no debian package for it and i'm having some strange compiler errors.
[07:48] <selkies> do i need one?
[07:48] <Saied> jordan_Jordan_U : maybe i found it . in usplash source code i found : /* Number of seconds to wait for a command before exiting */
[07:48] <Saied> static int timeout = 15;
[07:49] <Twisties> cant get mPlayer to give audio playback on SoundBlaster audigy
[07:49] <cafuego> selkies: It also doesn't have any open ports by default, so that's fine.
[07:49] <selkies> oh i see
[07:49] <jsizzle> tritium: problem solved, dpkg --remove --force-depends firefox
[07:50] <flowingfire> Hello.... I'm typing to you stuck in Virtualbox... Does anybody know the command to get my keyboard and mouse back into linux instead of in the Virtualbox?
[07:50] <tritium> jsizzle: be careful using that
[07:50] <HiddenHax> avis awesome =)
[07:50] <SurfnKid> ubuntu rocks
[07:50] <SurfnKid> period
[07:50] <jeffwheeler> flowingfire: ctrl+alt? what do you mean VirtualBox? you mean a vm?
[07:50] <SloggerKhan> So I've connected to an exchange server with evolution and it connects to the contacts and such. However, I have 2 questions. How do I see people
[07:50] <SloggerKhan> s
[07:50] <avis> your welcome HiddenHax
[07:50] <avis> its all of them
[07:50] <Jordan_U> Saied, Recompiling is probably overkill, again, how much time do you have to work on this ( do you need it quick dirty and NOW, or do you have time to do it correctly ) ?
[07:51] <SloggerKhan> calendars?
[07:51] <flowingfire> Jeffwheller: Yeah I'm running Windows XP virtually inside ubuntu... and I'm stuck
[07:51] <HiddenHax> avis Thanks!
[07:51] <jeffwheeler> flowingfire: and ctrl+alt doesn't work? what are you using to emulate?
[07:51] <tritium> SloggerKhan: you can see their availability when you try to setup a meeting
[07:51] <flowingfire> It's probably some simple command too
[07:51] <cafuego> SloggerKhan: You'll need to set up calendars
[07:51] <Saied> Jordan_U: why overkill ?
[07:51] <flowingfire> nope ctrl-alt doesn't work... it just registers the command in windows... I'm using VirtualBox to emulate
[07:51] <Matrix9> Is anyone here running ubuntu in vmware 6? The mouse isn't able to move accross the whole desktop after awhile, I installed the vmware tools by converting the rpm into a deb but didn't help.
[07:52] <flowingfire> lol i got myself into a silly mes
[07:52] <HiddenHax> avis got it
[07:53] <jeffwheeler> VirtualBox is interesting; I wonder how I've never seen it before... I've always used qemu and Parallels (for Ubuntu and OS X respectively)
[07:53] <arya^> ok, just ordered a cheapie intel mobo... if that doesnt work, then i'll just give up on ubuntu and install windows *sigh*
[07:53] <Jordan_U> Saied, Compiling has many downsides like not updating with apt, and I think this can be done by simply adding sudo usplash_write "TIMEOUT 120" in a startup script
[07:53] <flowingfire> kewl. :)
[07:53] <Saied> Jordan_U: i think this the only way
[07:53] <SloggerKhan> So the only ways to find contacts on the exchange server are to search by name and the only ways to see peoples calendars are to setup a meeting and click Free/Busy''?
[07:54] <strabes> anyone know what the deal is with this? alex@alex-laptop:~$ ark
[07:54] <strabes> ERROR: Communication problem with ark, it probably crashed.
[07:54] <Nrbelex_Ubuntu_L> Hi, my wireless card wasn't working properly so I unplugged it and re-plugged it back in and now Ubuntu doesn't list it in the network window. How can I fix this?
[07:54] <Saied> Jordan_U: no . apt-get source usplash && <changes> && cd usplash && fakeroot debian/rules binary   . not very hard
[07:54] <tritium> SloggerKhan: no, not to find contacts.  That wasn't what you originally asked...
[07:54] <tritium> You asked how to see their calendars...
[07:54] <SloggerKhan> Yeah, different questions. But at least true for calendars?
[07:55] <flowingfire> Oh well... i'm going to join vbox and see if anyone can help... thx
[07:55] <SloggerKhan> That you must click free busy from setup meeting?
[07:55] <Jordan_U> Saied, Yea, but I thought you were distributing this to others, or am I mistaken?
[07:55] <Defian> Does anyone know how to get UT04's sound to work decently? it's all distorted..
[07:55] <theshadow> My audio just stopped for no reason I can think of, where can I look for some trouble shooting steps?
[07:56] <SirBob1701> hey guys if they center pin on the ethernet jack (inside the computer) is bent down some will it cuase you not to receive an ip (trying to find a pin guide online to find out)
[07:56] <tritium> SloggerKhan: to see contacts, make sure you've setup the Global Catalog server name
[07:57] <Jordan_U> Saied, Look at the last post on this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75132
[07:58] <SloggerKhan> Like I said initially I had 2 questions. One was how to see people's calendars, which I've found you go new>meeting>>free busy.
[07:58] <SloggerKhan> The other is that under Contacts, I can click on global address list. Once there, I can search by letter and it will return names. However, if I click on Global Address List and do not search, it says "search for the contact" and does not display anything.
[07:58] <hidan> hello does anyone know what happened to the package "checkinstall"? I'm booting from the livecd and can't find the package in synaptic
[07:58] <tritium> !info checkinstall
[07:58] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 111 kB, installed size 540 kB
[07:58] <Jordan_U> hidan, It's in universe
[07:58] <hidan> oh hang on
[07:58] <mrwilloby> Does anyone know a reason why Ubuntu would stop connecting to the internet upon boot while Windows and another Linux continue to?
[07:58] <Nrbelex_Ubuntu> Hi, my wireless card wasn't working properly so I unplugged it and re-plugged it back in and now Ubuntu doesn't list it in the network window. How can I fix this?
[07:59] <jsizzle> mrwilloby: wireless?
[07:59] <mrwilloby> nope
[07:59] <mrwilloby> wired school network
[07:59] <skylight> i was trying to change the Ubuntu Logo Next to applications, and i dont know how to do it, if someone could help me and actually know what there talking about, that would be great.
[07:59] <tritium> mrwilloby: what type of NIC?
[07:59] <mrwilloby> tritium: built-in to the MB
[07:59] <jsizzle> Nrbelex_Ubuntu: open terminal type without quotes "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[07:59] <hidan> okay thank you... i'm reloading synaptic now . may it go well. :p
[08:00] <tritium> mrwilloby: nVidia MCP51, by chance?
[08:00] <Zorbo> guys, I'm thinking about installing ubuntu but I have some concerns
[08:00] <skylight> lol ubuntu rocks
[08:00] <Jordan_U> Saied, If you don't mind I am curious how this turns out for you ( if it works ) :)
[08:00] <skylight> exspecially with beryl
[08:00] <Zorbo> I'm running it from a CD now and it seems great - but, this is a laptop that came preinstalled with Vista
[08:00] <Nrbelex_Ubuntu> jsizzle, still not listed
[08:00] <mrwilloby> tritium: in Windows it says VIA Rhine II
[08:01] <skylight> lol it works wel on laptops
[08:01] <Zorbo> it was built with it and everything was all preinstalled
[08:01] <Zorbo> drivers and stuff too
[08:01] <tritium> mrwilloby: hmm, okay.  The one I mentioned actually requires hard reset to work properly (firmware issue, I believe)
[08:01] <skylight> hmm it might actually be better because it was installed with windows
[08:01] <SloggerKhan> tritium: I haven't used exchange servers before and I was expecting a way to browse like browsing a telephone book, and also that if I viewed a contact I could right click on their name and hit something like "view calendar". I have figured out to a certain extent how to use both features and am mostly wondering if there are any ways to interact with them in ways closer to those I sorta expected initially.
[08:01] <Zorbo> what do you mean?
[08:01] <Zorbo> how could it be better?
[08:01] <jsizzle> Nrbelex_Ubuntu: ok short answer reboot, long answer track down all modules that load to support your NIC and rmmod them then modprobe them all, tis up to you
[08:02] <skylight> you would be using the same graphics cards, and other stuff, it would actually make ubuntu more worth using
[08:02] <skinnypuppy1334> I need to boot my 7.04 into terminal and reconfigure xserver, how do I boot to terminal? I've tried hitting esc but don't know what to do at grub>
[08:02] <Nrbelex_Ubuntu> how does one look up what modules they have loading
[08:02] <mrwilloby> everything works fine in other OSs, even live CDs of Ubuntu don't connect
[08:02] <tritium> SloggerKhan: no, you can't really browse the entire directory
[08:02] <Zorbo> I still don't get what you're getting at
[08:02] <skylight> thw windows comps seem to come with good graphic cards
[08:02] <hidan> jordan_U: woohoo that well. thank you! :)
[08:02] <Zorbo> not this one, heh, system graphics
[08:02] <jsizzle> skinnypuppy1334: ctrl+alt+f1, once in there it's ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X
[08:02] <skylight> ohh
[08:02] <mrwilloby> it just started happening after a reboot
[08:03] <jsizzle> Nrbelex_Ubuntu: lsmod
[08:03] <SloggerKhan> tritium: Thanks
[08:03] <skylight> well my computer was windows, i just unstalled ubuntu over it and it works very well, and fast
[08:03] <Jordan_U> skinnypuppy1334, Just press ctlr+alt+F1 after X crashes
[08:03] <|chiz|> skinnypuppy1334: alt-ctrl-F1 should give you a terminal
[08:03] <|chiz|> dam
[08:03] <Zorbo> was Windows preinstalled on it?
[08:03] <skylight> yes
[08:03] <Nrbelex_Ubuntu> jsizzle, then sudo modprobe modulename
[08:03] <Zorbo> hm
[08:03] <Nrbelex_Ubuntu> ???
[08:03] <orbin> Zorbo: windows and ubuntu can co-exist on the same drive.  you'd be "dualbooting".  the installer will give you the option to resize the windows partition to create room for ubuntu.  make sure you backup vital data before you install.
[08:03] <Zorbo> I still have some reservations
[08:03] <robbie> I've followed the FAQ, but I am still missing my native resolution in Xorg, which is 1280*1024. Right now I have 1280*960, which makes everything slightly distorted. I'm new to this, and don't know what I need to do to change it. 1280*1024 is listed in my Xorg.conf as a mode, but it's not available...
[08:04] <skylight> ok like what
[08:04] <leperkhanz> We got the new wine in the repos yet?
[08:04] <robbie> I am using an nvidia card
[08:04] <Zorbo> well, compatability issues mostly, with all the hardware in my laptop
[08:04] <skylight> ubuntu is far more flexible then WIndows, anyone agree
[08:04] <jsizzle> zorbo: use gnome partition editor to resize your vista partition make room for ubuntu and install it try it out if you don't like it boot the installer disk again fire up partition editor and delete the ubuntu partition and expand vista back to the old size no fuss no muss
[08:04] <ste-foy> Bonne nuit tout le monde
[08:04] <Nrbelex_Ubuntu> and how do you disable a module
[08:04] <d3m0> does ubuntu server have an interface?
[08:04] <skylight> lol yes
[08:04] <Jordan_U> robbie, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[08:04] <skylight> gnome
[08:04] <jsizzle> Nrbelex_Ubuntu: modprobe installs modules into the kernel rmmod removes them
[08:04] <ste-foy> aie sorry here for my french sentence
[08:04] <robbie> !blacklist Nrbelex_Ubuntu
[08:04] <robbie> !blacklist | Nrbelex_Ubuntu
[08:04] <ubotu> Nrbelex_Ubuntu: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[08:05] <skinnypuppy1334> I can't boot that far, after the status bar loads the login prompt never appears. I'd had 7.04 running a few days and it just froze
[08:05] <Zorbo> hm I guess I could run a dual boot
[08:05] <skinnypuppy1334> I'm in live 6.06 now
[08:05] <yuki> test
[08:05] <orbin> d3m0: afaik, no, it doesn't come with any desktop environments
[08:05] <skylight> thats what im doing
[08:05] <robbie> Jordan_U,  1280*1024 isn't in there, that's why I'm stuck at 1280*960
[08:05] <skylight> except im using a port switch
[08:05] <Nrbelex_Ubuntu> jsizzle and robbie, thanks
[08:05] <jsizzle> Nrbelex_Ubuntu:  NOTE blacklisting is not something you want to do with a module you'll ever want to automatically load again when you reboot
[08:05] <robbie> Nrbelex_Ubuntu,  np
[08:05] <jsizzle> Nrbelex_Ubuntu: in other words don't do that
[08:05] <d3m0> thanks
[08:05] <skylight> welcome
[08:05] <skylight> hope you enjoy it
[08:06] <skylight> anymore questions ill answer
[08:06] <yuki> i m a fresh man here
[08:06] <Jordan_U> robbie, What kind of card?
[08:06] <Nrbelex_Ubuntu> jsizzle, so rmod them?
[08:06] <mwales> Any mono or c# developers in here, i have a mono question
[08:06] <skinnypuppy1334> is there some way I could mount that partition and add something to grub that will take me straigh to terminal ? ?
[08:06] <robbie> GeForce 5600
[08:06] <imrazor> robbie: are you using nvidia restricted module?
[08:06] <skylight> i used to c++
[08:06] <Rupert-Giles> READY FOR TAKE OFF?!?!?!!:EONEone
[08:06] <robbie> I've also got a 7600 but I think that I'm underpowered with that, so it kills my system every so often
[08:07] <robbie> imrazor, yes
[08:07] <|chiz|> skinnypuppy1334: if you boot the recovery console that will give you the terminal
[08:07] <imrazor> under applications>system tools, do you see nvidia x server settings?
[08:07] <carutsu> where may i change the boot check of a disk? I want to disable and not to check windows drives, it has a error or something and i gotta wait every time i boot for it to check it
[08:07] <skinnypuppy1334> I hit escape and chose recovery, but I only got" grub> "
[08:07] <|chiz|> skinnypuppy1334: its also known as single user mode
[08:08] <Jordan_U> robbie, Are you using the Restricted nvidia driver?
[08:08] <Zorbo> in GNOME partition edior
[08:08] <jsizzle> Nrbelex_Ubuntu: rmmod them one by one till all the modules or just one perhaps which is for your NIC then modprobe each back in, check lsmod in between sometimes when you load one module it loads the rest for you
[08:08] <robbie> Jordan_U, yes
[08:08] <Zorbo> all the options for new partition or resizing are greyed out
[08:08] <imrazor> robbie:  under applications>system tools, do you see nvidia x server
[08:08] <mwales> I'm trying to learn .NET remoting from a C# book (thats more geared towards using Visual Studio.NET on Windows).  Anyways, it has "using System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.Tcp;" in the example, but it won't compile using mono
[08:08] <Zorbo> there's a padlock icon next to each one, I'm assuming that means they're locked out
[08:08] <carutsu> Zorbo: was it for me?
[08:08] <imrazor>           settings?
[08:08] <jsizzle> carutsu: in fstab make the last number a 0 to disable filesystem checking
[08:08] <mrwilloby> Where should I start to get a wired internet connection back in Ubuntu when it works if I boot into other OSs
[08:08] <robbie> imrazor, no it's not there
[08:09] <jsizzle> mrwilloby: /etc/network/interfaces
[08:09] <|chiz|> skinnypuppy1334: can you boot anything from your grub menu?
[08:09] <robbie> and doing nvidia-config from console doesn't let me change it either
[08:09] <Jordan_U> mwales, System.runtime... sounds OS specific to me
[08:09] <carutsu> jsizzle: fstab, got it, i knew there had to change a 0 somewhere
[08:09] <imrazor> robbie: at a command prompt do "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings"
[08:09] <skinnypuppy1334> all I have is normal , recovery and memtest.
[08:09] <mrwilloby> jsizzle: and do what with that file? I've looked at it...
[08:09] <jsizzle> mrwilloby: does the entry for eth0 or whatever dev reps your NIC look like the right settings?
[08:10] <skinnypuppy1334> recovery only drops me at grub>
[08:10] <Anguis> Hi, folks - I'm using Feisty 64 and can only boot using recovery mode in GRUB - anything bad for the computer doing it this way?
[08:10] <|chiz|> skinnypuppy1334: and you can't boot recovery?
[08:10] <robbie> imrazor, now restart x?
[08:10] <jsizzle> skinnypuppy1334: then recovery isn't working
[08:10] <leperkhanz> Upgrade the wine repos to .9.37 or I will kill this puppy!
[08:10] <mrwilloby> jsizzle: it looked the same to me as the help file
[08:10] <mwales> Jordan:  yeah, I haven't quite got the whole mono vs. VS.NET thing figured out yet.  I'm thinking about getting a book geared towards mono
[08:10] <imrazor> robbie: no, look under Applications>System Tools for nvidia
[08:10] <skinnypuppy1334> can I mount that disk and do anything usefull?
[08:11] <sef_> please help:   when I boot from the feisty fawn CD, my networking is fine, when I install and boot from HD, I have no visible networks.  I know the module for my network card is via_rhine, and I've modprobed that, but still nothing.  Anyone got a suggenstion?
[08:11] <Anguis> When I get the prompt, I type 'exit' and the comp boots into ubuntu. . .
[08:11] <holycow> mwales, do you know what .net is as a concept?
[08:11] <robbie> imrazor, still not there
[08:11] <jsizzle> mrwilloby: do this w/out quotes "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" and watch what happens you should see some error or something
[08:11] <Jordan_U> skinnypuppy1334, You can try chrooting in and running "update-grub"
[08:11] <robbie> brb restarting x
[08:11] <|chiz|> skinnypuppy1334: sure you can boot another operating system and mount the disc and do what ever you want with it
[08:11] <Tom47> leperkhanz wine will almst certainly NOT be upgraded in the repos ... o check out winhq and get the ubuntu deb fro the latest release instaed
[08:12] <imrazor> robbie: OK, try ALT-F2 then type "nvidia-settings", click Run
[08:12] <DLB|Maximus> anyone know if there is a degrees symbol in the character map?
[08:12] <jsizzle> sef_: check the network manager in the system tray
[08:12] <Matrix9> Where is the Gnome/Hal device manager located in Ubuntu? can't seem the find the icon
[08:12] <skinnypuppy1334> I just don't know what to do with it when i mount it .. I'll do that first and hop back in a minute.
[08:12] <Anguis> .. .and it looks like things work properly booting this way - the normal way hangs the computer in what looks like a suspended restart.
[08:12] <mrwilloby> jsizzle: I'm not in Ubuntu at the moment, only one PC, and the error when I did that before was something like DHCP connection not reached
[08:12] <avis> what is the channel for desktop effects ?
[08:12] <carutsu> jsizzle: what does a 2 mean? my /home partition has a 2
[08:12] <holycow> #beryl
[08:12] <Jordan_U> avis, #desktop-effects
[08:12] <sef_> jsizzle: it just tells me there are no networks.  and when I run dhclient, it gets no response.  Also, I'm not seeing any activity lights on my switch
[08:12] <avis> thank you
[08:13] <DLB|Maximus> avis: ubuntu-effects
[08:13] <leperkhanz> Tom47: Where is the latest .deb?
[08:13] <jsizzle> mrwilloby: well, if it's a desktop why not just give it a static IP? it makes ya boot faster, that's always important to me :)
[08:13] <sef_> jsizzle: to be clear, I see the link light.. but no activity light
[08:13] <Zorbo> to create a partition do I have to label the filesystem?
[08:13] <Jordan_U> avis, I meant #ubuntu-effects :)
[08:13] <isilloke> anyone got heredis through wine?
[08:13] <leperkhanz> #winehq is kinda stuck up and pissy with Ubuntu users over some STUPID /. article.
[08:13] <DLB|Maximus> lol
[08:13] <avis> thank you Jordan_U
[08:13] <holycow> leperkhanz, heh
[08:13] <|chiz|> Anguis: recovery mode is always logged in as root which is bad as it is easy to make unforgiving mistakes
[08:13] <jsizzle> carutsu: I'm not sure, I just read about disabling the checking for my winblows partition on the scrap machine I'm building
[08:13] <holycow> theres room for everyone
[08:13] <holycow> even if we hate each other
[08:14] <mrwilloby> jsizzle: I'm plugged into a campus network
[08:14] <carutsu> jsizzle: thank you anyway
[08:14] <Tom47> leperkhanz: checkout http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[08:14] <jsizzle> sef_: ping 127.0.0.1
[08:14] <carutsu> leperkhanz: eh? what did the article say?
[08:14] <jsizzle> sef_: see if it responds
[08:14] <leperkhanz> religion and dairy at the same time... I hate you holycow.
[08:14] <Zorbo> brb
[08:14] <holycow> leperkhanz, cheeze with some jesus perhaps?
[08:14] <leperkhanz> It just said that wine wouldn't be included *by default* in the Ubuntu that would be on Dell.
[08:14] <sef_> jsizzle: yep, response straight away
[08:14] <d3m0> how do I get to gnome from command line in ubuntu server?
[08:14] <robbie> imrazor, With nvidia-settings installed my x won't start
[08:14] <d3m0> I tried startx but it doesn't work
[08:15] <Anguis> ok, that's what I saw - I typed exit at the prompt and things worked then, however, that's the only way I can boot into ubuntu, at the moment.
[08:15] <jsizzle> mrwilloby: that answers that, ok well for a temp fix write down the ip in winblows and static it temporarily your lease should last at least 24hrs
[08:15] <holycow> d3lf, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:15] <leperkhanz> But it was poorly written, and if English isn't your first language, and you were a wine fan, it would piss you off.
[08:15] <jsizzle> carutsu: np
[08:15] <jsizzle> sef_: your network card is working the problems in your config
[08:15] <carutsu> leperkhanz: what the no wine ubuntu-dell agreement?
[08:15] <holycow> if that doesnt work install gdm and start again
[08:15] <mrwilloby> jsizzle: good idea, I'll try that in a bit, thanks
[08:15] <Jordan_U> leperkhanz, I think having it installed by default would be a horrible idea ( but this is all offtopic :)
[08:15] <Nrbelex> Has anyone ever seen the BIOS on a computer ever decide that it will load at a different resolution than everything else?
[08:15] <mwales> holycow:  not totally.  I'm doing some basic OO GUI development at work using VS.NET 2005.  It's been suggested that I make it use .NET services, but I'm unfamiliar with them.  So I'm trying to learn at home, but at the same time I'm very new to Mono.
[08:15] <imrazor> robbie: do you know anything about your monitor?
[08:15] <sef_> jsizzle: I do see two versions of the interface though, which is odd.... eth0 and eth0:avah
[08:15] <jsizzle> mrwilloby: np
[08:16] <robbie> imrazor, like what specifically?
[08:16] <holycow> mwales, well probably going to the mono channel would be best but ...
[08:16] <|chiz|> Anguis, you should try to fix normal boot as its alot safer
[08:16] <jsizzle> sef_: that's ok.. that shouldn't be the problem, are you using dhcp?
[08:16] <sef_> jsizzle: (when I run ifconfig that is)
[08:16] <imrazor> robbie: horiz/vert refresh rates, resolutions
[08:16] <robbie> I know it's got a refresh rate from 60-80hz and that it's native resolution is 1280*1024
[08:16] <holycow> from the big picture, .net is the same as java
[08:16] <holycow> one runtime app that runs other apps created in various languages
[08:16] <sef_> jsizzle: yes, but I tried manually configuring through the gui, and it still got no life
[08:16] <imrazor> robbie: horizontal and vertical rates, resolutions. is it lcd?
[08:16] <Anguis> why would exiting from the recovery mode work and not the normal way? How would I fix it when it hangs?
[08:16] <jsizzle> yeah but .net smells funny cuz M$ made it
[08:17] <levon> this is why i hate microcrap
[08:17] <d3m0> how do I get to gnome from command line in ubuntu server?
[08:17] <sef_> jsizzle: as a test.. is it possible for me to completely disable ipv6?
[08:17] <holycow> the big difference is that java runtime only supports java (more or less) and .net supports a whole bunch of languages, mostly poorly from a security perspective
[08:17] <tallman> hello everyone
[08:17] <domster> does anyone know where system -> preferences -> screen resolution actually makes its changes?
[08:17] <leperkhanz> Jordan_U: I agree, it was a really poorly written article stating the obvious, and devoid of any actual information at all.  Like a regular /. article these days.
[08:17] <imrazor> ?
[08:17] <jsizzle> sef_: yeah I do that, just add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:17] <Anguis> I'd love to be able to boot normally. . . thanks for the help
[08:17] <sef_> jsizzle: thanks.. back in two
[08:17] <domster> I'm guessing it's not the standard /etc/X11/xorg.conf because it's profile specific
[08:17] <orbin> d3m0: there is no gnome in ubuntu server.  you'd have to install it.
[08:17] <holycow> mwales, mono is trying to replicate c# and asp.net compatability with their own runtime
[08:17] <jsizzle> sef_: the syntax should be obvious when you edit the file, btw only root can edit it
[08:17] <robbie> imrazor, it's a rosewill lcd. 19", with native of 1280*1024, 59-80horiz, I don't remember the vert
[08:17] <|chiz|> Anguis, when you boot recover mode you tell the kernel that you are going to work in single user mode that is why exit doesn't work
[08:17] <ImNew> hey
[08:18] <Twisties> Damn I droppe dout before. Anyone know how to get mPLayer to playback audio through a sound card instead of onboard?
[08:18] <d3m0> orbin: ok, thanks
[08:18] <orbin> d3m0: i told you earlier.
[08:18] <ImNew> does anybody have the exe file for photoshop cs2?
[08:18] <d3m0> orbin: didn't see it..sorry..thanks again
[08:18] <tallman> is there a way to convert a .wma file to .mp3 in the linux world ?
[08:18] <tritium> ImNew: no warez discussions here
[08:18] <jsizzle> Twisties: have you tried right click then prefs?
[08:18] <holycow> mwales, and frankly i'm hugely against mono my self i think its a gian waste of time that will end up being wasted in court.  if one does .net it will onlly really ever trully run on windows so ... you may as well just use their tools
[08:18] <holycow> but mono people seem to disagree
[08:18] <imrazor> robbie: you still there?
[08:18] <sef_> jsizzle: np, I have a root term open
[08:18] <jsizzle> tallman: yes it's called mplayer and lame and maybe a shell script if you wanna be fancy
[08:18] <robbie> imrazor, yes
[08:18] <mwales> Yeah, I've seen that.  But I'm totally lost on the GUI stuff.  The mono folks all talk about GTK# and stuff, but the Windows stuff uses Windows forms.  And I'm not real sure if Mono is compatible.
[08:19] <robbie> imrazor, it's a rosewill lcd. 19", with native of 1280*1024, 59-80horiz, I don't remember the vert
[08:19] <holycow> mwales, the basic answer is no
[08:19] <|chiz|> Anguis, you should edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst so that the line for booting normal ubuntu doens't have the splash or the quiet options
[08:19] <tallman> jsizzle: thanks
[08:19] <Twisties> jsizzle: Yes I have
[08:19] <holycow> mwales, the real answer is maybe depending on lots of considerations
[08:19] <jsizzle> tallman: np
[08:19] <Twisties> and no options seem to work
[08:19] <Milage> why would one ask for a photoshop key in a linucx channel anyway?
[08:19] <imrazor> robbie: first look in /etc/X11 and see if you have any backup xorg.conf files
[08:19] <|chiz|> Anguis, that should let you see where it is hanging
[08:19] <jsizzle> Twisties: and configuring the sound output plugin and selecting the sound card to use?
[08:19] <robbie> imrazor, it's a fresh install, there;s nothing
[08:20] <holycow> mwales, frankly you can either choose to just code on windows for windows or you can spend the rest of your life debugging cross platform stuff on an implemenetation that will run afould of ms patents sooner or later
[08:20] <holycow> :/
[08:20] <Twisties> jsizzle: I did. using the same selecttion as XMMS uses
[08:20] <imrazor> robbie: when you did apt-get did the installer ask you to reconfig anything?
[08:20] <levon> i found that my computer was running very slow on the internet i couldnt figure out why i have been spending about a week trying to figure it out then the answer shined through my sister in law is also on my wireless network shes running microcrap i told her i check it out and went and saw in one glimps major problems no firewall no virus scan so i set it up sp2 firewall worked nice then dug for the nearest virus scan avast installed it
[08:20] <levon> and fixed everything she had over 1000 trojans because of a generator she had 300 viruses and 2 worms i have never seen this much crapola on one computer anyways i fix my network and thanks to nothing microcraps stupid system. lol this is why once again i hate microcrap
[08:20] <Twisties> jsizzle: And XMMS works
[08:20] <holycow> mwales, but actually don't listen to me, talk to mono people they can give you the gory details
[08:20] <Anguis> typing 'exit'at the root prompt actually is what lets me boot as it used to w/ 32 bit feisty - I then have to log in normally. Just delete those commands and save?
[08:20] <robbie> imrazor, nope
[08:20] <Oewyn> I have a file that i'm trying to compile that's dependent on <X11/extensions/Xvlib.h> what package should i install to make sure it exists?
[08:20] <holycow> oh look there is a #mono channel
[08:21] <Anguis> thanks
[08:21] <Jordan_U> !offtopic | levon
[08:21] <ubotu> levon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:21] <mwales> holycow.  yeah i hear you on the whole .net not really being open.  My work is pretty much a Windows shop, so I'm trying to pick my poison.  C# was a better alternative than MFC.  I use Ubuntu at home
[08:21] <jsizzle> Twisties: do you use the onboard sound for anything? why not just blacklist it's module so it's simply not available and the secondary card becomes the default card?
[08:21] <robbie> imrazor, Should I just scrap my current xorg.conf and reconfigure it?
[08:21] <levon> lol
[08:21] <Twisties> jsizzle: Because I have 0 idea how to
[08:21] <imrazor> robbie: yep. usual method is "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:21] <levon> well jordan i came here before trying to fix the network and no one could figure it out now i know why
[08:21] <robbie> thanks
[08:21] <jiping> hi,
[08:22] <imrazor> robbie: with sudo of course.
[08:22] <holycow> mwales, thats an interesting point you raise
[08:22] <holycow> mwales, as a windows shop what choice do you have?
[08:22] <robbie> imrazor, obv. Thanks
[08:22] <holycow> either do .net or what? asp.net and deploy on iis as web app?
[08:22] <domster> My X11 starts up with the correct resolution/refresh rate, but once I log in swaps down to a crappy refresh rate. gnome-display-properties is no help.  Where is the user-specific screen resolution/refresh rate stored?
[08:22] <jiping> who can introduce some interesting software in ubuntu
[08:22] <holycow> mwales, perhaps you can give qt and some of the qt bindings a try
[08:22] <Jordan_U> levon, Oh, nvm then ;)
[08:22] <tallman> jiping: ///what are you interested in?
[08:22] <holycow> c++ ... donno what other bindings there are
[08:23] <Jordan_U> jiping, bb, xmoto
[08:23] <sef_> jsizzle: no joy.. still no networking
[08:23] <jsizzle> Twisties: do this w/out quotes "dmesg | less" then read all that crap and look for where your soundcard gets initialized it will say what driver it's using, then blacklist that module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:23] <jiping> bb?
[08:23] <jiping> what is that?
[08:23] <disinterested> xmoto is addicting
[08:23] <jsizzle> sef_: dhcp right?
[08:23] <Jordan_U> jiping, The most awesome ASCII art demonstration I have ever seen :)
[08:24] <tallman> !xmoto
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmoto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <sef_> jsizzle: yep.. trying manual now
[08:24] <Twisties> ok, ill boot into ubuntu and try it no jsizzle
[08:24] <DSteele> hello
[08:24] <jsizzle> sef_: well did you edit /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:24] <jiping> Johbe, really?
[08:24] <Twisties> be back on here in a jiffy
[08:24] <mwales> holycow, yeah QT would have been a good option.  The negative thing is that everyone there has 0 QT experience since it's mostly windows users.  It would have been a hard sell and I would have got raked over the coals had something go wrong.  I'm just trying to work in more open source here and there where I can and maybe I can pitch something like QT in a few years
[08:24] <jsizzle> Twisties: if possible print it out, that way if you have to come back and ask questions you'll have more info
[08:25] <sef_> jsizzle: no, its still the installed default
[08:25] <jsizzle> sef_: ya might wanna just take a look at it before switching to manual
[08:25] <cotki> #armia_polska
[08:25] <sef_> jsizzle: auto eth0 / iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:26] <jsizzle> sef: is there NIC's listed that you don't actually have like eth1 eth2?
[08:26] <sef_> jsizzle: yes
[08:26] <aleksanteri> how can i change my keyboard layout?
[08:26] <jsizzle> sef_: put a # in front of the lines for the ones that are imaginary
[08:27] <jsizzle> sef_: why config things you don't have right?
[08:27] <sef_> jsizzle: hehe, ok gimme a sec
[08:27] <jsizzle> sef_: then retry sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:27] <disinterested> aleksanteri system>preferences
[08:27] <aleksanteri> but in console? am on kde
[08:28] <ebuth> my wireless is working fine, but does anyone know of a nice GUI wireless monitor that would fit nicely right next to the clock? :-)
[08:28] <theshadow> how can I restart the audio? everything says it should be working but it just died on me when I rebooted...
[08:28] <jsizzle> has anyone else installed linux on a SPARC box? it's interesting I gotta say
[08:29] <theshadow> or how can I unmute the audio (from the command line)
[08:29] <thebillywayne> aleksanteri, edit the keymap line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  or you can 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:29] <DSteele> theshadow,  um alsamixer
[08:29] <jsizzle> theshadow: sudo apt-get install aumix ; aumix
[08:30] <mwales> ebuth, kde has a nice wifi monitor.  i think its called knetworkmanager
[08:30] <jsizzle> ebuth: xfce has a pretty cool one too
[08:30] <jsizzle> ebuth: it's built in
[08:30] <ebuth> mwales, this maybe a dumb question, but will KDE apps work in gnome?
[08:30] <Rupert-Giles> yeh
[08:31] <Rupert-Giles> that was dumb
[08:31] <jsizzle> lol
[08:31] <Rupert-Giles> >_<
[08:31] <sef_> jsizzle: ok, restarted networking, and I'm still not getting an address... when I run tcpdump, I'm not seeing anything at all
[08:31] <mwales> ebuth, most do.  i use amarok all the time
[08:31] <ebuth> sadface :-(
[08:31] <Vektis> Hi, have got quiet audio in two Ubuntu installs, with different sound hardware... where can I adjust volume? Prefs|Volume does nothing
[08:31] <Rupert-Giles> ebuth be happy :D
[08:31] <ebuth> mwales, ok ill give it a shot, ty
[08:31] <Vektis> lie, I can mute volume, and it still plays
[08:31] <ebuth> Rupert-Giles, don't worry, I am :-)
[08:31] <Rupert-Giles> yey!
[08:31] <Rupert-Giles> >_< party!
[08:32] <jsizzle> sef_: hmm... try the static bit just to see if we need to dig a little deeper.. we'll come back to dhcp
[08:32] <Rupert-Giles> PARTY PEOPLE!
[08:32] <ebuth> lawl
[08:32] <Rupert-Giles> raise teh rooth bietchs
[08:32] <jeancvl> alguien que hable espaol
[08:33] <ebuth> this is a long shot, but does anyone develop in Eclipse?
[08:33] <thebillywayne> this is a support channel people.  go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:33] <sef_> jsizzle: there's life on the line.. I just saw a packet in tcpdump
[08:33] <theshadow> DSteele & jsizzle: thanks
[08:33] <Vektis> anyone help wit hvolume?
[08:33] <jsizzle> theshadow: np
[08:33] <|chiz|> Vektis: open the volume control window and goto file->change device
[08:33] <theshadow> DSteele: I'm still having a problem with the audio where is there a sound I can test with aplay? cause according to everything else I've checked its all working
[08:34] <|chiz|> Vektis, try adjusting those bars, that is if there is another device
[08:34] <sef_> jsizzle: so at least I know the cable is ok as well, lol (unfortunately it was nothing to do with this box)  trying manual config now
[08:34] <thebillywayne> Vektis, i think lots of folks are having your problem.  read here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=373287&highlight=low+volume
[08:35] <Vektis> aha! I searched "quiet sound" :)
[08:35] <thebillywayne> Vektis, ubuntuforums is the first place I check.
[08:35] <Vektis> I did :)
[08:35] <mwales> ebuth, i've done a little
[08:35] <twisties> jsizzle: what exactly am I looking for in the infos that come up?
[08:36] <Nrbelex> Where's the best channel to ask about a computer's BIOS?
[08:36] <Vektis> ahha - my 5.1 speakers have to be selected in prefs, and set *individually*; main control does nothing!
[08:36] <twisties> NrbelexL what do you need to know?
[08:36] <twisties> Nrbelex*
[08:36] <|chiz|> Vektis, what sound device do you have?
[08:37] <Vektis> jebus, that's load this time of morning! thanks!
[08:37] <jsizzle> twisties: well your looking for your sound card name
[08:37] <vladuz976> what's a good blogging software?
[08:37] <xjkx> i dont care for languages, then i didnt download the language CD, somethings here is in english but i understand english, problem is that i cant see accent keys, its probably the charset, how do i change system's charset? its probably using UTF-8 and i need iso8859-1 or its using iso and i need utf-8, unsure
[08:37] <Nrbelex> twisties, well I was fooling around trying to reconnect my wireless card (Which I finally got working) but now the resolution on the BIOS splash screen has changed. It also affects the Ubuntu splash screen but did NOT change the BIOS setup  screen resolution...
[08:37] <Nrbelex> very odd
[08:38] <Fezzler> How do I get Desktop "Cube" effect to work in F Fawn?
[08:38] <vm_> fezzler, i just fixed that very problem
[08:38] <Nrbelex> Fezzler, Beryl or compiz
[08:38] <vm_> you got graphics drivers installed?
[08:38] <Fezzler> I have Desktop Effects set to Cube.
[08:38] <Fezzler> either
[08:38] <vm_> Fezzler: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/89786/+viewstatus
[08:39] <Ashex> I've setup a lamp server and I'm trying to setup Amarok to use a MySQL database
[08:39] <Nrbelex> ! beryl
[08:39] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:39] <vm_> just worked for me 2min ago lol
[08:39] <Ashex> I've got the database and user setup
[08:39] <Vektis> ahh, the volume control can be set to individual speakers on my 5.1. Very.. linuxy :)
[08:39] <Ashex> but when I go into amarok to setup the database, I keep getting a connection error
[08:39] <Fezzler> ctrl-alt-right flips Desktops/Apps but full screen, not in Cube
[08:39] <Ashex> anyone know why mysql is refusing the connection?
[08:39] <sef_> jsizzle: when I try to change the config, to manual, it tells me that the default Gateway address is invalid.  I'm on a 192.168.1/24 and am setting the gateway to 192.168.1.1   What am I doing wrong?
[08:39] <vm_> Fezzler.....https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/89786/+viewstatus
[08:39] <Fezzler> Have Beryl installed
[08:40] <jsizzle> sef_: how are you changing the config? GUI or /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:40] <twisties> jsizzler: I can't see it in there. mind you im kind of lost looking at it anyway
[08:40] <vm_> fezzler: what graphics card you got?
[08:40] <Fezzler> vm - did that
[08:40] <ebuth> mwales, knetworkmanager doesn't seem to have the interface I'm looking for. I'm looking for a wireless monitor that shows signal strength a list of wireless networks when clicked upon. I've used OpenSuse recently and I must admit they have a really clean interface for that.
[08:40] <Nrbelex> !Beryl | Fezzler
[08:40] <ubotu> Fezzler: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:40] <sef_> jsizzle: gui, not 100% certain on the syntax for /etc/network/interfaces
[08:41] <vm_> hrm, well that is a fix for the desktop effects....not beryl so I dnt know
[08:41] <jsizzle> sef: man interfaces
[08:41] <Fezzler> vm: Just installed a nvidia GeoForce 5500
[08:41] <jsizzle> sef_: then change /etc/network/interfaces and do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:41] <jul> hey there
[08:41] <jul> can anyone help?
[08:41] <imrazor> Fezzler: did you install nvidia-glx?
[08:41] <ebuth> just ask :-)
[08:42] <jul> thank you
[08:42] <jsizzle> sef_: interfaces man page has an example of a static config, it's easy it'll take ya 2 secs
[08:42] <Fezzler> imrazor: yes
[08:42] <jul> I have a sound card, dmesg shows intel8x0 running cool, however it doesnt show on lspci
[08:42] <jul> and I have no sound at all
[08:42] <twisties> jsizzle: I can't see it in there. mind you im kind of lost looking at it anyway
[08:42] <jul> either at start up, during use of Feisty, or at log out
[08:43] <imrazor> Fezzler: what do you get if you do ALT-F2, type "glxgears" and hit run?
[08:43] <sef_> jsizzle: doing it now
[08:43] <Fezzler> I can flip apps, but it is full screen and not in a cube
[08:43] <theshadow> Ok, apparrently some how it decided to start using the sound card on my capture card... how can I change which device its loading as "default"
[08:43] <jul> now, I came here once before with that prob, it was solved, but I had to reinstall
[08:43] <Fezzler> Also, I noticed with Desktop Effects turned on I loose MAX/MIN/Close buttons and menus in Terminal
[08:43] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, Desktop effects is still officially just a "technology preview" If the gconftool fix doesn't work just remove compiz and install beryl
[08:44] <skinnypuppy1334> Could someone give me a hand? Feisty froze, and won't reboot. Recover in grub only drops me at" grub> " not to the terminal prompt... I'm booted into a live cd and have mounted the drive 7.04 is on ... what can I do to get that system back up ?
[08:44] <jsizzle> twisties: well then go to google.com/linux and search for your type of sound card, and figure out which module supports it that way
[08:44] <Fezzler> Beryl is installed
[08:44] <vm_> Fezzler: I had the same problem, so I removed beryl, and just used desktop effects and cube is working fine
[08:44] <mwales> ebuth,  knetworkmanager's icon when using wifi should turn into a signal strength meter
[08:45] <Fezzler> In Beryl manager I can choose from three windows managers
[08:45] <skinnypuppy1334> Could someone give me a hand getting feisty to boot again?
[08:45] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, Then Desktop effects wont effect it because desktop effects uses compiz, not beryl
[08:45] <Fezzler> vm never got cube working even w/o beryl
[08:45] <Fezzler> Jordan: ?
[08:46] <Jordan_U> !grub ( follow the reinstall grub after windows instructions and while in the chroot also run "update-grub" )
[08:46] <Nrbelex> So does anyone know a good channel to ask about BIOS issues?
[08:46] <Jordan_U> !grub | skinnypuppy1334 ( follow the reinstall grub after windows instructions and while in the chroot also run "update-grub" )
[08:46] <ubotu> skinnypuppy1334 ( follow the reinstall grub after windows instructions and while in the chroot also run "update-grub" ): grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:46] <vm_> yeah, neither could i fezzler, then i uninstalled beryl, and did that fix i linked you to and it worked
[08:46] <Fezzler> Should I uninstall Compiz? leaving just Beryl?
[08:46] <Jordan_U> Fezzler, Yes
[08:46] <jsizzle> feh: how you makin out with your NIC?? FYI I'm going to bed within the next 15-30, I sorta wanted to get u up and goin before I go sleepy-time
[08:47] <ebuth> mwales, strange... I've disabled my wired connection and knetworkmangar displays a cable still :-/
[08:47] <skinnypuppy1334> ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/hda1$ !grub
[08:47] <skinnypuppy1334> bash: !grub: event not found
[08:47] <skinnypuppy1334> ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/hda1$
[08:47] <skinnypuppy1334> ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/hda1$
[08:47] <jsizzle> sef_:  how you makin out with your NIC?? FYI I'm going to bed within the next 15-30, I sorta wanted to get u up and goin before I go sleepy-time
[08:47] <skinnypuppy1334> I'm booted in live cd and mounted into dev/hda1 where feisty is...
[08:47] <sef_> jsizzle: ok I officially give up...  network configured manually... ifconfig shows it as up, tcpdump shows it as only a 10MB link (should be at least FE)
[08:47] <Jordan_U> skinnypuppy1334, !grub isn't a command, why are you trying to run it?
[08:48] <jul> hellop?
[08:48] <jsizzle> skinnypuppy1334: "!grub" isn't a valid command ! is built into bash and searches the history of commands for whatever string follows the !
[08:48] <jul> anyone can help?
[08:48] <littlebir> can someone point me to the link where it has directions on fixing grub after installing xp after a ubuntu install?
[08:48] <sef_> jsizzle: going to read the manual a bit more.. see if I can set the speed, see if that helps
[08:48] <jsizzle> sef_: but does it work? can you ping stuff?
[08:48] <Jordan_U> !grub > littlebir
[08:48] <chains> hi
[08:48] <chains> i want to know a method to use anything remote desktop like for feisty fawn that'll let me auto scale
[08:48] <littlebir> so..
[08:49] <littlebir> how do you do it
[08:49] <sef_> jsizzle: nope, ping reports Destination Host Unreachable, and tcpdump si showing nothing
[08:49] <littlebir> oh
[08:49] <Vektis> OK, another easy Q. Beryl doesn't work. Loading the manager just crashes - how can I diagnose this? Or is my X1900 ATI card not supported?
[08:49] <jsizzle> sef_: ok well that sounds like the problem is with the driver maybe then
[08:49] <Jordan_U> Vektis, Are you using fglrx?
[08:49] <Vektis> littlebir, wil find, one sec
[08:49] <jul> please can anyone at least reply, it's 3 am here in montreal, can you help me now or should I come back some other day?
[08:50] <vm_> Vektis: you will have more luck with compiz
[08:50] <jsizzle> sef_: have you looked through dmesg to see if there's any errors concerning the NIC?
[08:50] <littlebir> Vektis, found it
[08:50] <sef_> jsizzle: the really weird thing is that it works fine from the bootcd
[08:50] <littlebir> what's the root password for the live cd
[08:50] <vm_> Vektis: do you have Xgl set up?
[08:50] <Jordan_U> littlebir, There is none, use sudo
[08:50] <skinnypuppy1334> ok, after !grub I am at grub>   what do I do now?
[08:50] <chains> i want to know a method to use anything remote desktop like for feisty fawn that'll let me auto scale
[08:50] <chains> anyone have any suggestions?
[08:50] <Vektis> k
[08:51] <Fezzler> I don't see Compiz in Add/Remove app.  Did Fiesty install Compiz?  Did Beryl?
[08:51] <Vektis> Jordan_U: fglrx, yes
[08:51] <Vektis> vm: XGL? No idea
[08:51] <jsizzle> sef_: compare what modules get loaded on the boot cd versus your installed ubuntu and compare /etc/network/interfaces that might provide a clue
[08:51] <Vektis> What is XGL?
[08:51] <jsizzle> sef_: there must be some diff
[08:51] <skinnypuppy1334> what do I do at the grub prompt now?
[08:52] <Nrbelex> I just upgraded to Feisty from Edgy and now my USB wireless card needs to be replugged in everytime the computer is running to get it recognized. How can I fix this?
[08:52] <Jordan_U> Vektis, XGL is a hack to get Beryl / Compiz to work with fglrx
[08:52] <chains> does anyone have a clue as to what i'm asking??
[08:52] <sef_> jsizzle: yeah.. time to boot off the cd again, thanks for all your help
[08:52] <vm_> Vektis: if you are using an ATI card, then you need to install Xgl, so that your card can do some of the effects
[08:52] <vm_> ! Xgl
[08:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:52] <jsizzle> chains: I know what your asking, I just don't know of anything that does it, I use Vino and there's also x11vnc but neither scale AFAIK
[08:53] <sef_> jsizzle: actually.. one quick question.. on another box I have, eveything is ok..e xcept I can't get procmail to work.  I've added a .procmailrc, but nothing is gettign filtered.  Do I need to do anything more to it?
[08:53] <jsizzle> sef_: np, we could've probably figured it out but the bootcd might be quicker + easier
[08:53] <Jordan_U> Vektis, I would recommend trying the open source drivers first ( if they give 3D accel for your card ) instead of fglrx + XGl
[08:53] <chains> jsizzle: when i say scale i mean so it ajdusts according to the window size i set for the client
[08:53] <chains> so i won't have to scroll up/down and left/right
[08:53] <Vektis> XGL eh? how obvious! :)
[08:53] <jul> DOES ANYONE KNOW WHICH BLOODY SYSTEM FILE I HAVE TO EDIT TO GET UBUNTU TO START WITH INTEL8X0 ON SOUND??? PLEASE???
[08:53] <jsizzle> sef_: step 1. "ps aux | grep procmail" make sure it's running in the first place, then if it is check the log file search /var/log for it
[08:54] <Vektis> I'd rather use the ATI drivers Jordan, so I can get dual head with projector... eventually
[08:54] <Jordan_U> !caps | jul
[08:54] <ubotu> jul: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:54] <sef_> jsizzle: thanks very much... I'll let you get some sleep now :)
[08:54] <Jordan_U> !attitude | jul
[08:54] <jul> ok thx...3rd times harder on nerves at 3 am
[08:54] <ubotu> jul: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:54] <jsizzle> sef_: np thanks!
[08:54] <jacque1> hi everyone
[08:54] <jul> I know, I've already come
[08:54] <jul> bout a week ago
[08:55] <jul> with the same prob
[08:55] <jul> and I forgot to note the solution
[08:55] <Vektis> Xgl refers to setting it as a startup option. There's no way to 'try' it in the current session then?
[08:55] <Jordan_U> jul, You might find it in the logs
[08:55] <jsizzle> chains: check out x11vnc, it should do what you want then, I thought you wanted to have like a 1600x1200 native res then vncview it from a remote client and auto scale down to say 800x600 for smaller monitor
[08:55] <jul> the logs?
[08:55] <jul> dmesg and lspci?
[08:56] <Jordan_U> jul, No, the IRC logs from when you asked and got an answer before
[08:56] <mrwilloby> ok, I'm ready to upgrade to Feisty; what I want to do is install to another partition, fresh; also, I want to have /home on its own partition this time and I'd like to keep all my settings; what order should I do these things in?
[08:56] <jul> ok, it was this one #ubuntu, positive about that
[08:56] <jul> where do I get the logs?
[08:56] <mrwilloby> btw, thanks for everyone's input before, my internet connection is back
[08:57] <jul> (hum, do I even have access?)
[08:57] <jsizzle> mrwilloby: cool
[08:57] <levon> are there any good trojan scanners for linux
[08:57] <Jordan_U> !logs | jul
[08:57] <ubotu> jul: Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[08:57] <sef_> jsizzle: well duh.. procmail isn't running.  how do I get it to run?
[08:57] <levon> i know linux can catch trojans and worms but i dont think virus so much
[08:57] <sef_> jsizzle: this just isn't my morning, lol
[08:57] <chains> jsizzle: yah, same thing
[08:57] <jul> thk you
[08:58] <chains> i tried x11vnc but it does the same thing as the ubuntu remote desktop
[08:58] <jsizzle> sef_: well there's a fancy pants ubuntu way of doing it, but I just make a symlink in /etc/rc2.d/
[08:58] <Jordan_U> levon, If you stick to the repos then there is no chance of getting a trojan
[08:58] <ebuth> jul, does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375237&highlight=intel8x0+sound
[08:58] <sef_> jsizzle: symlinks work for me :)
[08:58] <xjkx> i need change $lang to iso8859-1 permantently
[08:58] <Vektis> k, I'll try it - thanks!
[08:58] <jsizzle> sef_: if you want the fancy pants way i could look it up for you.. it's something like update-rc.d someotherbullshit
[08:58] <Fezzler> ok, uninstalled Beryl.  Re-applied the following.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/89786/+viewstatus
[08:59] <levon> jordan just in case i like to be careful but some times im very careless so if there is one i would like to have it :)
[08:59] <ebuth> !logs
[08:59] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[08:59] <jacque1> i'm currently trying to shutdown the module/package/?? called snd_emu10k1 - but for some reason a "modprobe" shows that its still in use - despite the gnome mixer being 'taken out'.  Anyone have any ideas what I need to look for?  I've used pf to look for suspect tasks - but I wouldn't recognise one unless it had 'snd', 'sound' or similar in the name.
[08:59] <Nrbelex> I just upgraded to Feisty from Edgy and now my USB wireless card needs to be replugged in everytime the computer is running to get it recognized. How can I fix this?
[08:59] <Fezzler> Desktop Effects enabled.  ctrl-alt-right arrow drops three apps to three small windows but flat, no cube
[09:00] <Fezzler> sorry ctrl-alt-up arrow
[09:00] <levon> jacque1 do this
[09:00] <levon> top
[09:00] <jul> is there a way to look for a single set of character within the logs? I think my nick then was Jul1609
[09:00] <levon> type top into your console
[09:01] <levon> then find the proccess
[09:01] <jacque1> thanks levon...
[09:01] <jsizzle> jacque1: modprobe loads modules, it doesn't show what's loaded, lsmod does that
[09:01] <levon> and type killall the process
[09:01] <Jordan_U> levon, There is clamAV , I don't know if that does Trojans though, but honestly, it is not hard to stick to trusted software sources with linux, almost everything is in the default Repos and what isn't is in repos from other verifiable sources
[09:01] <levon> should kill it
[09:02] <sef_> jsizzle:  okay one last problem... I don't have a procmail entry in init.d
[09:02] <levon> thank you jordan
[09:02] <Jordan_U> levon, np
[09:02] <jsizzle> sef_: that's definitely a problem
[09:02] <levon> jacque1 also make sure to press q after your done in konsole
[09:02] <jacque1> the problem i've got is I want to remote the asound.state file (vlc keeps on crashing and permanently disabling my sound card).  I was told to make sure all dependencies on this file were taken out before deleting the file...
[09:02] <vm_> fezzler: what abouyt ctrl-alt-right arrow
[09:02] <jacque1> i am not sure what task to kill next...
[09:03] <levon> top copy and paste to here
[09:03] <bitowrse> it seems we can not use offline messenger of Msn in pidgin, right?
[09:03] <levon> pastbin.ca
[09:03] <jsizzle> sef_: alright then do this "dpkg -l | grep procmail" then do a "dpkg -L (procmail deb name here) | less"
[09:03] <Fezzler> vm That just cycles through the 6 Desk tops open
[09:03] <levon> www.pastebin.ca
[09:03] <jsizzle> sef_: that make sense?
[09:03] <levon> so i can have a look at it ill tell you whats up
[09:03] <sef_> jsizzle:  yep.. two secs
[09:04] <Fezzler> This is very frustrating because I just purchased nvidia Geoforce 5500 to get the Cube and Beryl effects
[09:04] <jlulian38> can I just slap an ubuntu CD into a mac and hope it'll boot?
[09:04] <twisties> you just bought a 5500?
[09:04] <jlulian38> or do I need a special version?
[09:04] <Fezzler> YEs
[09:04] <jacque1>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[09:04] <jacque1>  6587 remote2   15   0 60424  17m  10m R  0.7  1.7   0:06.28 gnome-terminal
[09:04] <jacque1>  6423 root      15   0 17260  13m 2476 S  0.3  1.3   0:21.37 Xvnc
[09:04] <jacque1>     1 root      15   0  2912 1848  524 S  0.0  0.2   0:01.16 init
[09:04] <jacque1>     2 root      34  19     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.02 ksoftirqd/0
[09:04] <jacque1>     3 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 watchdog/0
[09:04] <twisties> you can still buy 5500's?
[09:04] <jsizzle> jlulian38: special version
[09:04] <levon> oh man lol
[09:04] <jlulian38> harbl
[09:04] <jsizzle> Fezzler: what did you give for it?
[09:04] <Fezzler> Yup - CompUSA for $50
[09:04] <sef_> jsizzle:  ok.. what am I looking for?  I don't see an init.d entry in the file listing
[09:05] <twisties> PCI? AGP?
[09:05] <Fezzler> AGP 256
[09:05] <Fezzler> Svideo
[09:05] <Fezzler> Did I get ripped off?
[09:05] <jsizzle> sef_: well it's gotta load from somewhere... perhaps exim laods it.. I don't use procmail so at this point I'd have to direct you to read the docs
[09:06] <Nrbelex> How does one format a floppy to make it bootable?
[09:06] <sef_> jsizzle:  yay.. I finally got an RTFM :P  seriously though.. thanks for all your help
[09:06] <ebuth> !jvm
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <tal> $ perl gui.pl # launches the gui
[09:06] <jul> I can't find the log of that particular day, I don't remember the date, in fact. I have the intel8x0 driver/package (I didn't understand that part, I'm learning), and there was a file I had to edit in gedit to get to work. I need just the name of this file
[09:07] <Fezzler> well, I guess we give up on Fiesty Cube issue.  Rats!
[09:07] <jsizzle> sef_: np
[09:07] <jul> or a thread with the same problem solved, I know it happens pretty often
[09:07] <sef_> jsizzle:  got it!  need to set mailbox_command in /etc/postfix/main.cf
[09:07] <jsizzle> jul: is it a module that you load for the sound card?
[09:08] <jul> yes it is
[09:08] <jsizzle> sef_: kickass seabass!
[09:08] <tondar> hey all
[09:08] <Nrbelex> How does one make a bootable floppy in Ubuntu?
[09:08] <jsizzle> jul: put it at the bottom of /etc/modules
[09:08] <jul> I looked for module.conf, someone told me that was it
[09:08] <tondar> how could I make the window captions thicker?
[09:08] <jul> ok, trying it right away
[09:08] <jsizzle> jul: they're on crack
[09:08] <Fezzler> another thing, when Desktop Effects are enabled, I lose min/max/close buttons and ability to resize windows?
[09:09] <melchior> My current monitor is 1280x1024. I have an extra monitor @ 1024x768. I want to use them both. 1) is dual monitor possible with different resolution, 2) how hard is it in feisty fawn/ubuntu, 3) what kind of vid card  do i need?
[09:09] <jsizzle> jul: ya gotta reboot for /etc/modules to get processed
[09:09] <tondar> how could I make the window captions thicker?
[09:09] <jul> how do I put it
[09:09] <jul> just intel8x0?
[09:10] <fliper_> good morning all...how do i list the connected dev to my pc?(i have an external usb cdrom and i dont now the name to mount it
[09:10] <Fezzler> Ctrl-Alt-UP will put all six open apps on desktop and Rt Lt arrow will cycle through them.  But no Cube.  I wonder if I have wrong nvidia driver installed?
[09:10] <melchior> dmesg
[09:10] <jsizzle> jul: if that's the name of the module, you can test by doing "modprobe intel8x0" w/out quotes
[09:10] <melchior> fliper_, dmesg
[09:10] <jsizzle> fliper_: lspci
[09:10] <EADG>  melchior 1. Yes. 2. Easy, edit xorg.conf. 3. A card with dual outputs.
[09:10] <jsizzle> fliper_: nm, I was smoking crack
[09:10] <jul> module intel8x0 not found :s
[09:10] <tondar> dock to work inside VM? any ideas?
[09:11] <fliper_> :)
[09:11] <melchior> EADG, thanks; any recommendation on card?
[09:11] <Fezzler> no more ideas?
[09:12] <EADG> melchior: Hmm, not really. Afraid I'm not up to speed on recent cards.
[09:12] <jul> so I guess I should d/l this module somewhere, but where?
[09:12] <jsizzle> Fezzler: have you tried ctrl+alt and moving the mouse?
[09:12] <melchior> oh well, I have an excuse to buy a video card now! :-)
[09:12] <Nrbelex> Nobody knows how to make bootable floppy in Ubuntu!?
[09:12] <jsizzle> jul: it should be included in your kernel, you should already have it
[09:13] <EADG> melchior: Hehe, nvidea has better supprt in Fiesty atm.
[09:13] <jul> I know it should, last time it was
[09:13] <jsizzle> Nrbelex: apt-cache show grub-disk
[09:13] <jul> hem...does the fact that I am running an upgraded edgy counts? last time it was a plain vanilla feisty
[09:13] <tal> $ /load zeus.pl #
[09:13] <tondar> jsizzle, what is that for?
[09:13] <Fezzler> Yes, nothing
[09:14] <Fezzler> The Wobbly Window Effect works
[09:14] <jsizzle> jul: I am personally against upgrades
[09:14] <jul> lol
[09:14] <jsizzle> tondar: huh?
[09:14] <jsizzle> jul: they never work right
[09:14] <fliper_> ty all
[09:14] <fliper_> have a nice day
[09:14] <tondar> jsizzle, is that for bringin back grub?
[09:14] <jsizzle> jul: seperate /home partition, then who cares if ya format /
[09:14] <jul> but it was the only way to get Beryl to work right with my new ATI VC
[09:15] <jsizzle> tondar: it could be used that way i suppose
[09:15] <tondar> ok
[09:15] <jul> don't know why, I tried beryl on feisty with this radeon9200, I got white screens and the lot
[09:16] <Fezzler> wow.  bought nvidia geoforce 5500 AGP 256 to get Cube and nil, nada, zitch!
[09:16] <jsizzle> tondar: if I mess up grub I usually boot my grub usb flash drive and just fuck around with grub syntax till I can get the hard drive to boot linux then re-install grub with sudo update-grub
[09:16] <slytherin> can someone help me with setting up pixelview tv tuner card?
[09:17] <jul>  jsizzle: thank you very much for your help, but it's 3:16 now, I think I'll go to sleep and try again tomorrow
[09:17] <jul> bye
[09:17] <jsizzle> jul: cool, np for the help... a lot of ppl helped me when I was a n00b
[09:17] <jxxxt> Does anyone know what would cause a horrible noise to replace a soundtrack? I saved a mpeg to hd then made it to an iso image then burnedit to a disc and lost the sound.:-?
[09:18] <rollerskatejamms> Good morning everybody.
[09:18] <vm_> evening rollerskatejamms
[09:18] <Rupert-Giles> hallo frozen body
[09:18] <rollerskatejamms> jul, I also get white screens.
[09:19] <Akuma_> where can i find the sources file?
[09:19] <Akuma_> where can i find the sources list file?
[09:19] <Akuma_> repository sources that is
[09:20] <DoChun> hello guys~
[09:20] <jsizzle> Akuma_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:21] <Akuma_> jsizzle:  thanks
[09:21] <jsizzle> Akuma_:  np
[09:22] <theTrav> AVAST!
[09:22] <jxxxt> akuma: locate <name> can sometimes be helpful
[09:22] <Zelda> hello people
[09:22] <theTrav> I be havin a trouble configurin me network
[09:22] <Zelda> are there anymore firewall programs other then "Firestarter" that are really good?
[09:23] <theTrav> I've been following the how to from the forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106846
[09:23] <Frogzoo> theTrav: more details plz
[09:23] <theTrav> and when I get to the restart network devices part I get this output
[09:24] <theTrav> erm well, I don't have the output, I get a device not found message
[09:24] <jsizzle> I'm off to bed, gnite all
[09:24] <Zelda> ntie
[09:24] <Zelda> er nite
[09:24] <Zelda> does anyone use firewalls in ubuntu?
[09:24] <Zelda> other than the hardware ones?
[09:24] <ben321234> Hi, i compiled my own kernel and now my atheros wireless card is not working correctly. I have manually compiled and installed the madwifi drivers. When the modules are loaded, it seems that the card is working correctly but when i scan for networks nothing is found. I booted the live cd and it works perfectly. Any ideas?
[09:25] <theTrav> does the declaration in the network/interfaces file create the device?
[09:25] <vladuz976> what TeX distribution does Ubuntu have in the repos?
[09:25] <Zelda> so everyone is going to skip right over my questions?
[09:25] <jxxxt> !Tex
[09:25] <ubotu> tex is a language for describing a document, commonly used especially for scientific publishing. Information and instructions for installing TeX and other related packages can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX
[09:26] <ben321234> zelda, its been a while but you might want to look into shorewall
[09:26] <Zelda> is that better than Firestarter?
[09:26] <Zelda> !firestarter
[09:26] <theTrav> or am I trying to declare a device that already exists?
[09:26] <theTrav> rausb0
[09:26] <eternaljoy> whats Ubuntu Studio ?
[09:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:27] <mojojojo_> Do you know the site which I could see the discription of defaultly installed services. If think I don't need every service installed by default and want to disable the unnecessary ones...
[09:27] <slytherin> Can anyone help with pixelview tv tuner card?
[09:27] <jxxxt> zelda: Ido not know I just have me modem firewall and use the defaults with nat
[09:27] <eternaljoy> !Ubuntu Studio
[09:27] <ubotu> ubuntustudio is a site is for the musician who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation, at  http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit  #ubuntu-studio
[09:27] <Zelda> yeah I have hardware firewalls too. Is having a software one good as well?
[09:27] <happyguy> anybody on now who has experience with what to do when apt-get won't update?
[09:28] <jxxxt> zelda: I do not use one for what that is worth
[09:28] <eternaljoy> happyguy: wait
[09:28] <Zelda> i would assume all you need to do would be to change your sources happyguy
[09:28] <eternaljoy> happyguy: or try anoither server
[09:28] <happyguy> zelda: i wish ;p
[09:29] <Zelda> happyguy: can you reinstall xserver?
[09:29] <happyguy> zelda: think that would help?
[09:29] <jxxxt> happyguy: will apt-get -f  help the situation
[09:29] <jxxxt> or --f
[09:30] <Zelda> happyguy: I dont know. I am making suggestions. Im still new at this too.
[09:30] <ben321234> that wont do anything helpful
[09:30] <happyguy> zelda: no problem, i can use lots of suggestions
[09:30] <ben321234> happyguy, what happens when you try to update
[09:30] <joe7d6> hi all. im new to ubuntu. i see that firefox on feisty64bit is 64bit right? i'm used to firefox tarball from official site. right now flash plugins just wont work. why is firefox linked to so many dependencies i would prefer to remove the stock firefox...
[09:30] <kr3ml> i get this in restricted manager "xorg.conf is invalid or does not exist" ... what should i do?
[09:31] <happyguy> zelda: but i have already tried a lot of things and i'm looking for an advanced user who can help me
[09:31] <drsys> hello ,i just installed ubuntu server ,everything ok ,the only problem is that i don't have gnome .it boots up in text mode and it doesnt give me an option to install gnome on the setup
[09:31] <Zelda> happyguy: have you tried re-installing xserver?
[09:31] <Nrbelex> How do I make a floppy to flash the BIOS of a Ubuntu computer?
[09:31] <jxxxt> Does anyone know what would cause a horrible noise to replace a soundtrack? I saved a mpeg to hd then made it to an iso image then burnedit to a disc and lost the sound.:-?
[09:31] <happyguy> ben321234: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20297/
[09:31] <theTrav> hmm, ok, I've got another one.  I have my desktop hooked up to my projector, I want to be able to tell it to play video files onto the projector, but I want to tell it to do that from my notebook
[09:32] <sef_> joe7d6: it's a flash problem, there are no 64bit implementations of flash, and the 32 bit plugins won't work with the 64bit binary
[09:32] <theTrav> solution?
[09:32] <drsys> xorg you mean?
[09:32] <happyguy> zelda: no i haven't but how would re-installing xserver fix it?
[09:32] <WaZ`> drsys: ubuntu server doesn't install a desktop manager... try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:32] <imhotepp> hi
[09:32] <Zelda> happyguy: wouldnt it default all your sources again?
[09:32] <drsys> aha ... ok
[09:32] <Zelda> its possible you may have changed something in there
[09:33] <ben321234> happyguy, do you have any problems accessing certain websites?
[09:33] <happyguy> zelda: i have tried 3 or 4 different sources.list files, that's not the problem
[09:33] <imhotepp> does anyone have a problem of losing window borders when enabling desktop effects in feisty?
[09:33] <happyguy> ben321234: not that i know of
[09:33] <drsys> waz: so that fixes the problem ? is it secure to have desktop in server editions?
[09:33] <jxxxt> happyguy: I do not think you are connecting do you have another apt open??
[09:33] <ben321234> are you sure that your dns settings are correct?
[09:33] <imhotepp> when I enable compiz I lose window borders and controls so I can't drag windows or close, minimize etc
[09:33] <ben321234> you can check by "less /etc/resolv.conf"
[09:34] <happyguy> my dns settings are fine
[09:35] <happyguy> no i don't have another apt open, unless it opens automatically on startup
[09:35] <drsys> waz: so that fixes the problem ? is it secure to have desktop in server editions?
[09:35] <Zelda> fiesty has ipv6 on by default am I right?
[09:36] <sef_> Zelda: yes
[09:36] <happyguy> imhotepp: try (in a console) 'metacity --replace'
[09:36] <Zelda> thats LAME!
[09:36] <tondar> anyone know where to get the full deb pack for wormux?
[09:36] <ben321234> happyguy, do you connect through a proxy or have any other unusual connection?
[09:36] <tondar> I want to install on 2 pcs
[09:36] <tondar> need to download once
[09:36] <happyguy> zelda: i think so, i've disabled it in the blacklist
[09:36] <Zelda> yeah I got it too.
[09:37] <sef_> Zelda: it has ipv4 as well
[09:37] <melchior> 32 bit flash works fine in 64 bit, as long as you grab a 32 bit firefox
[09:37] <jxxxt> happyguy: Try apt-get update -f
[09:37] <rkvirani> whats the name of the metapackage for kde?
[09:37] <Zelda> sef_: why is it in ipv6 nothing really uses that yet
[09:37] <sef_> Zelda: no clue :)
[09:37] <imhotepp> heppyguy: that replaces compiz with metacity
[09:37] <happyguy> ben321234: i'm connecting thru a transparent proxy, let me post a few more details
[09:37] <imhotepp> I lose all the eye candy stuff
[09:37] <Zelda> sef_: thanks though. I disabled it
[09:38] <ben321234> happyguy, take a look at this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2275
[09:38] <imhotepp> doesn't commpiz have a window manager like beryl?
[09:38] <zeus> hello, I have nvidia 8800 GTX and I"m using nvidia's drivers.  When i change the resolution of the screen from n vidia's control panel and reboot the old resolution is active. Anyone can help?
[09:38] <rkvirani> I hope it doesnt start using that stupid kdm thing :
[09:38] <rollerskatejamms> zeus, use the screen resolution preference and check make default on this system.
[09:38] <Zelda> so the new Ubuntu is Gutsy?
[09:39] <rollerskatejamms> zeus, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[09:39] <rollerskatejamms> Zelda, In several months it will be.
[09:39] <peppery> Does anyone know where I could find an ASCII Ubuntu logo to use in my motd?
[09:39] <rollerskatejamms> Zelda, The newest STABLE distribution is Feisty.
[09:39] <Zelda> right. I know. Im using that.
[09:39] <rkvirani> zues, hrm, I usually edit xorg.conf
[09:39] <Zelda> i was just talking out loud..
[09:39] <rkvirani> that is where it pulls the screen resolutions for the gui
[09:40] <Nrbelex> I just upgraded to Feisty from Edgy and now my USB wireless card needs to be replugged in everytime the computer is running to get it recognized. How can I fix this?
[09:40] <littlebir> is it the same speed ot scp something as to ftp
[09:40] <happyguy> here's the strange part... (1) i can access the repository sites fine in a browser, it's not a DNS issue (2) i can update just fine on the same computer and same network when booted on a LiveCD (3) when i chroot into my installed system from the LiveCD i can't update
[09:40] <skinnypuppy1334> I had to  sudo dpackage-reconfigure xserver-xorg in my feisty... now I can't get the higher than 1024x768. What can I do to get my res back ?
[09:41] <Zelda> have you tried the restricted drivers?
[09:41] <DrDario1> hi
[09:41] <zeus> rollerskatejamms: thanks. Also my screen is blank when booting ubuntu.
[09:42] <rollerskatejamms> zeus, That I'm not sure about :-(. But in the short term you could remove the quiet and splash boot parameters. You should at least see something then.
[09:42] <skinnypuppy1334> Zelda, it wasn't enabled. gotta reboot thank you ;o)
[09:44] <happyguy> anybody have a clue for me?
[09:44] <Zelda> happyguy: I dont sorry.
[09:45] <happyguy> ben321234: it seems the guy in that launchpad entry got his fixed but i can't for the life of me figure out what he did :-(
[09:46] <DrDario1> guys, i've to ask one thing
[09:46] <DrDario1> i'm studing Operating System at the University, and i'm looking for something about ubuntu's structure and programmer's algoritmical choses. Do u know if there's some "well done" doc? would be wonderful a pdf... Sorry for my english :\ :D
[09:47] <Flannel> DrDario1: you're looking for generic "linux" stuff, that ought to help your search a bit.  Ubuntu uses Linux.
[09:47] <tritium> DrDario1: for algorithms, the best is probably the CLRS text "Introduction to Algorithms".
[09:49] <DrDario1> ok, but i'm looking for Ubuntu's algorithms... for generic algorithms i've some book yet
[09:49] <Zelda> skinnypuppy: That work?
[09:49] <tarelerulz> is there any chat program that can use web cams and voice over yahoo networks?
[09:49] <famir> hi, in which folder can i found my H.drives ?
[09:50] <Flannel> DrDario1: you're looking for Linux algorithms, Ubuntu is a Linux distribution (and there's more literature out there for generic linux things)
[09:50] <zak_> famir: /media
[09:50] <zak_> famir: [assuming you mean hard drives] 
[09:50] <jinzo> tarelerulz, pidgin ( gaim )
[09:50] <peppery> What would the advantage of a Ubuntu DVD download rather than a CD download be?
[09:51] <xXSive> famir, places/computer works too
[09:51] <famir> zek: i have the only cdrom and usb
[09:51] <quinnoth> Hey
[09:51] <Flannel> peppery: Depending on which CD you get, you get more packages in the repository (or you get packages at all).
[09:51] <DrDario1> that's ok, flannel, but just cause i'm studing OS now, i need something for start, while on the web there's a lot of material!!!
[09:51] <skinnypuppy1334> No, same prob as before after reboot... get to the end of the progress bar booting and the screen goes black... I'd been using feisty about a week and haven't changed anything.. .It locked and then had this problem rebooting reconfiguring xorg got me back in but what to check now?
[09:52] <DrDario1> i ask you something for starting the Ubuntu OS study
[09:52] <peppery> Flannel: Ah, okay.
[09:52] <Zelda> skinny: maybe your using the wrong drivers after you reconfigured xserver
[09:52] <zak_> eat my fuck, quinnoth
[09:52] <quinnoth> I need some halp with installing beryl on 6.06 with a nVidia card
[09:53] <quinnoth> you remind me of gay, zak.
[09:53] <Zelda> sudo dkpg-reconfigure xorg i believe is the command
[09:53] <skinnypuppy1334> Possibly, xserver was a little less good at discovery than the install.
[09:53] <Zelda> am I right peopler?
[09:53] <tarelerulz> jinzo, I so have you used it pidgin ?  I have read other one ,but I could never get it to work and not much on it .
[09:53] <Zelda> waht kind of gfx card?
[09:53] <quinnoth> 6600GT
[09:54] <skinnypuppy1334> I used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:54] <Zelda> yeah do that again
[09:54] <Zelda> wahts your gfx card?
[09:54] <skinnypuppy1334> it is using a nvida driver
[09:54] <quinnoth> Yeah
[09:54] <quinnoth> I just installed the latest one
[09:54] <Zelda> quinnoth: there are tutorial/walkthroughs on the wiki
[09:55] <Zelda> to get beryl working on Dapper
[09:55] <quinnoth> I know, but all i get is dail
[09:55] <DBO> zak_, please try to keep the swearing to a minimum
[09:55] <quinnoth> *fail
[09:55] <skinnypuppy1334> I did, but if I select a res higher than 1024 it black screens me. I had beryl working...
[09:55] <Zelda> skinny: did you put in a generic monitor?
[09:55] <zak_> DBO: oh for fuc- uh.. ok
[09:55] <skinnypuppy1334> yes
[09:55] <DrDario1> ok, guys. thanks for all. bye
[09:56] <Zelda> skinny: sounds like your monitor doesnt like that resolution. How old is the monitor?
[09:56] <jxxxt> Does anyone know why "firefox" crashes a lot mainly in forums or webmail with popup type pages??
[09:56] <tarelerulz> Skinnypuppy , beryl is hard one to get work.  I have just got it to work right on one computer and this one it works right just not as well as it could .
[09:56] <zak_> i put slices of pizza up my arse, because it gets me off
[09:56] <Flannel> zak_: please take it elsewhere
[09:56] <skinnypuppy1334> monitor works great at 1200 and 75hz...
[09:57] <Zelda> skinny: roconfigure xserver-xorg and change the generic settings.
[09:57] <skinnypuppy1334> if I could just get back to what the installation defaulted me to instead of the manual xorg
[09:57] <skinnypuppy1334> generic monitor settings?
[09:57] <jxxxt> !firefox
[09:57] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:57] <Zelda> skinny: yeah it automatically sets settings. Manually punch them in
[09:58] <Zelda> according to your monitor specs.
[09:58] <skinnypuppy1334> ok, it's a gateway vx900 19"
[09:58] <quinnoth> I was following a guide on installing it, but when it attempted to retrieve the packages it kept getting 404 not found.
[09:59] <skinnypuppy1334> only reason I could figure it locked up on me was it is overclocked and the a/c was off this afternoon.
[09:59] <Zelda> skinny: ok. Well try manually change the settings in there. But be careful. You could mess it up and get no GUI. I did that once
[09:59] <quinnoth> Which version do i have (6.06 LTS) Fiesty or Edgy?
[09:59] <skinnypuppy1334> I guess I could go back to recovery terminal if something goes wrong
[10:00] <Zelda> yeah. Thats how I got it back
[10:00] <skinnypuppy1334> 06 is dapper isnt it?
[10:00] <Zelda> yeah
[10:00] <quinnoth> Well there is nothing for dapper on the beryl wiki.
[10:00] <Zelda> 6.10 is edgy
[10:00] <Zelda> quinnoth: ill look give me a min
[10:00] <quinnoth> Cheers
[10:01] <skinnypuppy1334> ok, thank you again. I'll go poke at some monitor settings , can I just ctl alt f1 over and do that ?
[10:01] <Zelda> http://dev.tufuncion.com/xgl-nvidia-ubuntu-apt-get give that a shot.
[10:02] <Zelda> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268036 or that
[10:02] <skinnypuppy1334> I bookmarked those zelda, thank you again for the help!
[10:03] <tarelerulz> I don't see web cam on pidgin ? does anyone know for sure
[10:03] <Zelda> quittoth: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=335034&highlight=beryl+dapper
[10:03] <ikitt> j #ubuntu-it-chat
[10:04] <Zelda> heh, skinny: those were intended for quittoth
[10:04] <Zelda> sorry.
[10:05] <BPMDUB> forgive me for being an idiot kinda new but when setting up my ubuntu install I set up extra workspaces now I have no panels at all on any workspace but workspace done anyone know how to get them back?
[10:05] <skinnypuppy1334> thats ok I still saw a thing or two of interest regarding installing nvida drivers should i have to redo them
[10:05] <quinnoth> Zelda: The first one you sent me didnt work
[10:05] <BPMDUB> one* not done
[10:05] <Zelda> skinny: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=438805&highlight=screen+resolution+nvidia
[10:05] <quinnoth> I got as far as downloading the packaged
[10:05] <quinnoth> And it failed
[10:05] <theconartist> running the failsafe term session doesnt change any configs or whatnot does it?
[10:05] <Zelda> quinnoth: have you manually added beryls sources to your sources?
[10:06] <Zelda> q: run sudo apt-get update
[10:06] <skinnypuppy1334> zelda thanks again, I'm looking that over
[10:07] <livingdaylight> Hola Amigos!
[10:07] <BPMDUB> anyone?
[10:08] <livingdaylight> My k3b just told me that it can't encode mp3's or something. Something about MAD mp3 plugin or something.. anyone know what i need?
[10:08] <quinnoth> Zelda:Failed to fetch http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:08] <quinnoth> Failed to fetch http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/dists/dapper/aiglx/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:08] <quinnoth> Failed to fetch http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:08] <quinnoth> Failed to fetch http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/dists/dapper/aiglx/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:08] <Zelda> quinnoth: give this a shot too. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[10:09] <fe5tr> Hi, I've got a little big problem getting feisty working. Live-CD on default graphic settings F4=VGA gives a messy screen. Live-CD with F4=1280x1024x32, for example, works perfect. Installing the OS gives again the messy screen. I can't figure out how to make it work (using ATI Radeon 9600) --- Is there maybe some boot parameter that can fix it?
[10:09] <Zelda> skinny: NP1
[10:09] <Och4> how do i "make depend && make" it's in a tutorial
[10:09] <Zelda> !beryl Dapper
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl dapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <Zelda> !beryl-dapper
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl-dapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <Raiders32> Where can I find drivers for Epson Stylus Color 880 printer.  The Feisty printer installation wizard apparently doesn't have them.  Dapper and Edgy have them.
[10:10] <Flannel> !beryl | quinnoth
[10:10] <ubotu> quinnoth: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:10] <livingdaylight> Hola Guys, what does my k3b need to encode and burn mp3's to disc?
[10:10] <livingdaylight> Anyone know what mad mp3 is?
[10:11] <Nrbelex> I just upgraded to Feisty from Edgy and now my USB wireless card needs to be replugged in everytime the computer is running to get it recognized. How can I fix this?
[10:11] <BPMDUB> i am running Fiesty and this occurred after setting up beryl
[10:11] <Och4> how do i "make depend && make" when installing a .tar.gz??
[10:12] <Zelda> quinnoth: this too http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/beryl-backup/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/XGL
[10:12] <Flannel> !compile | Och4
[10:12] <ubotu> Och4: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:12] <Zelda> how come you are using Dapper anyhow?
[10:12] <Och4> thank you!
[10:12] <livingdaylight> ok, guys, never mind i think i found the solution now
[10:13] <quinnoth> Its the only one they distribute via mail for free
[10:13] <Zelda> why not download Edgy?
[10:13] <livingdaylight> the new k3b is looking nice by the way
[10:13] <quinnoth> I have a download limit, so i cant get any of the later releases :(
[10:13] <Zelda> you thought about purchasing edgy?
[10:13] <Zelda> it isnt that expensive
[10:14] <livingdaylight> purchasing?
[10:14] <Zelda> q: go to the library... download it
[10:14] <BPMDUB> anyone know how to solve an issue where no panels appear on any workspace but workspace 1?
[10:14] <Zelda> yeah they sell ubuntu cds.
[10:14] <quinnoth> Hmmm i didnt even think of downloading it somewhere else...
[10:15] <theTrav> hmm, ok well this is le suck, still no wireless usb dongly love
[10:15] <livingdaylight> quinnoth, LOL, did you just have a Eureka moment?
[10:16] <Zelda> quinnoth: they sell 7.04 Fiesty for $5.00
[10:16] <quinnoth> Hahaha yeah
[10:16] <theTrav> how can I tell if my usb device is being driven by the right driver?
[10:16] <livingdaylight> dude, download it elsewhere, get a buddy to download it for you; heck Canonical even send them out to you, or do they not do that anymore?
[10:16] <theTrav> ifconfig doesn't seem to tell me which driver is running the device
[10:16] <Zelda> http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/index.php?main_page=index&redirected=true&cPath=41_47
[10:17] <Zelda> well its $5.00 and your supporting the disrto
[10:17] <livingdaylight> Zelda, no one needs to purchase ubuntu
[10:17] <livingdaylight> Zelda, is this your shop or something?
[10:17] <livingdaylight> Does Canonical still send cd's out for free?
[10:17] <SuperQ> livingdaylight: yes
[10:17] <Zelda> No. I was just saying if you dont have means to download you can purchase. thats off the ubuntu.com
[10:18] <theTrav> anyone wanna help?
[10:18] <SuperQ> theTrav: eh?
[10:18] <theTrav> I wish I knew how to debug hardware and drivers properly
[10:18] <Thor> howdy people
[10:18] <SuperQ> theTrav: ifconfig doesn't do that on linux
[10:18] <BPMDUB> ok guess I will just reinstall
[10:18] <theTrav> SuperQ, yeah apparantly not, but I don't know what does
[10:18] <theTrav> I'm kind of blundering around in the dark here
[10:18] <Zelda> quinnoth: so you have options.
[10:19] <theTrav> I've just been trying all the commands used in the HOWTO
[10:19] <SuperQ> theTrav: hrm.. gimmie a sec
[10:19] <livingdaylight> SuperQ, pfff..... LOL... so there really is no excuse or need to purchase cd's Zelda and quinnoth
[10:19] <SuperQ> livingdaylight: no, not really
[10:19] <SuperQ> livingdaylight: you can also download ISOs
[10:20] <livingdaylight> Freedom plus Free Beer, it doesn't get better
[10:20] <disinterested> im having an issue when i start gaim it pegs the cpu?
[10:20] <Zelda> livingdaylight: NO shit.. but the money supports the distro, and if he hadnt any other means of getting it
[10:20] <livingdaylight> SuperQ, dude i know, i'm responding to someone who said they couldn't download it
[10:20] <quinnoth> Zelda: Well im going to stick to 6.06 for now because im only a beginner and its taken me ages to get all my other things set up so far. But im going through alot of online docs now, and theyre helpfull.
[10:20] <Flannel> quinnoth: you'll want to download the alternate CD when you do.
[10:20] <h4wk0> !offtopic | livingdaylight
[10:20] <ubotu> livingdaylight: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:20] <SuperQ> livingdaylight: some people don't have very fast ineternet access,
[10:21] <UberPsyX> hi just wondering, will guild wars nightfall run through wine on ubuntu?
[10:21] <Zelda> livingdaylight: and whats $5-$7 bucks?
[10:21] <livingdaylight> SuperQ, most internet cafes, schools, universities have fairly fast access
[10:21] <Thor> UBerPhsyx
[10:21] <Thor> it will
[10:21] <Thor> but your better off with Cedega and full support for your vid card
[10:21] <livingdaylight> Zelda is rich
[10:22] <UberPsyX> Thor, whats Cedega?
[10:22] <Zelda> livingdaylight: I didnt buy mine. I downloaded it.
[10:22] <livingdaylight> Zelda, so did i, ^^
[10:22] <Zelda> livingdaylight: I was giving him options
[10:23] <livingdaylight> Zelda, hey, you're cool, i'm not having a go at you. I was just adding to the options
[10:23] <Flannel> livingdaylight: please take it elsewhere
[10:23] <livingdaylight> Flannel, ??
[10:24] <Zelda> skinny: you really should try to update your copy. They have worked out alot of bugs and added lots of good stuff to the new release
[10:24] <SuperQ> theTrav: ok.. i found the appropriate locations to walk under /sys
[10:26] <SuperQ> theTrav: find /sys/class/net/*/device/driver/module/drivers/
[10:26] <SuperQ> find /sys/class/net/*/device/driver/module/drivers/
[10:26] <SuperQ> erk
[10:27] <SuperQ> theTrav: I guess I don't know what utilities walk that namespace
[10:27] <SuperQ> theTrav: hope that helps
[10:28] <theTrav> SuperQ, thanks, umm.. I don't really know how that works but I'll try the commands and see what happens
[10:28] <Asad2005> i am having problem mounting nfs on dreambox, i got these errors mount: RPC: Unable to send; errno = No route to host
[10:28] <Asad2005> mount: nfsmount failed: Bad file descriptor
[10:28] <Asad2005> mount: Mounting 192.168.2.9:/media/dream on /hdd failed: Invalid argument
[10:28] <theTrav> any help is god help ^_^
[10:30] <drsys> '
[10:30] <theTrav> hmm ok
[10:30] <Gorlist> Good morning
[10:31] <theTrav> yeah that said it was using the driver I wanted >_<
[10:31] <Gorlist> couple of days ago I installed the xorg driver, all was working fine - booted up today to find Mesa has yet again taken over as OpenGL
[10:31] <Gorlist> (ATI)
[10:32] <Gorlist> ive checked the xorg files and backup xorg and seem set correctly - any other suggestions?
[10:33] <Zelda> bbl, nite everyone
[10:33] <Gorlist> :p
[10:33] <Gorlist> Seems strange, not sure where else to look in regards to Mesa
[10:36] <Asad2005> and if i try from another linux machine i got server is down error.  Any help
[10:38] <hilts50> Im trying to install 7.04 i386 on my macbook pro 2.16.  Install starts and then it says it can't find a display.  Anybody have any experience with this?
[10:39] <ducktape> hilts50: easy one
[10:39] <ducktape> have you got ethernet?
[10:39] <hilts50> yes
[10:40] <hilts50> wicked slow.. im up in the middle of nowhere in Alaska  :)
[10:40] <ducktape> give me a sec (I'll look it up; I have the same laptop so I used the trick)
[10:40] <hilts50> thanks
[10:40] <|thunder> lucky
[10:41] <robert__> 4
[10:42] <quinnoth> Argh. Im just frustrated now and having a sissy-fit.
[10:42] <Warp4> quinnoth, whats up?
[10:42] <quinnoth> Im going to reboot, go back to XP and make a sammich.
[10:42] <Rupert-Giles> i thought it was hussy
[10:42] <Davo_Dinkum> How can you turn off the gnome splash screen in fiesty?
[10:42] <Gorlist> Anyone? Installed ATI Fglrx driver the other day, working great! come to this morning to find Ubuntu has gone back to using Mesa when I type in fglrxinfo.... any suggestions?
[10:42] <Rupert-Giles> hussy-fit
[10:42] <Davo_Dinkum> Rupert-Giles: Hissy-fit actually
[10:42] <quinnoth> Hmmm, ive only ever heard sissy
[10:42] <quinnoth> Well there you go.
[10:43] <quinnoth> A hybrid of hussy and sissy
[10:43] <Rupert-Giles> ahh yeh
[10:43] <Rupert-Giles> that's the one :D
[10:43] <alistair_blunt> how to access as root to my usb drive?? i cannot write on it!!!
[10:43] <quinnoth> Warp4: dont worry, i was talking to Zelda about it before.
[10:44] <quinnoth> Just annoying online docs.
[10:44] <Warp4> quinnoth, ah
[10:44] <quinnoth> Xp & sammich time
[10:44] <Warp4> alistair_blunt, you can read from the drive, correct?
[10:45] <wyld> hey ya'll, how do i set permissions on an ntfs drive so that i can modify files in non super user mode?
[10:46] <Davo_Dinkum> How can you turn off the gnome splash screen in fiesty?  <<<Anyone know? The splash screen that shows when you log in
[10:49] <junjan> Hi ppl!
[10:50] <junjan> Since I upgraded to Feisty I can not burn DVDs -It worked perfectly under Edgy-. CD burning is working properly though.
[10:51] <Vanuatoo_> ppl, When I start firefox it crashes after 3 seconds. Reproducible always. What should I do?
[10:52] <zabovo> hello, I have a thinkpad z60m and the brightness on screen display is no more working on feisty
[10:52] <zabovo> Vanuatoo_: chenge color bit depth
[10:52] <zabovo> Vanuatoo_: try 24 bits
[10:53] <enry> help how to know the model of my motherboard?
[10:53] <Vanuatoo_> zabovo: It's already 24
[10:54] <Vanuatoo_> enry: I guess you should open the case and look at it
[10:54] <zabovo> Vanuatoo_: ok, the page you are trying has some Flash animations in it?
[10:54] <enry> mumble ok
[10:54] <Vanuatoo_> zabovo: No, I just start firefox with empty page
[10:55] <Vanuatoo_> zabovo: Actually my system is unstable, but I'm sure it's not RAM problem because windows works fine in dual boot
[10:55] <Vanuatoo_> I've got ATI X850XT with binary drivers
[10:55] <ducktape> Can anyone confirm that running ubuntu on a Mac(MBP) doesn't hurt you mac (the hardware); I can run it & love it, but I have my doubts about the heat etc.
[10:56] <boubbin_> !dvd
[10:56] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:56] <tondar> how do I play wormux multi-player on the net?
[10:56] <padee> hi all. i get this error message while starting up: your session only lasted less than 10 sec... and some stuff about missing diskspace or a installation problem. the .xsession-error file says sth about /etc/gdm and mkdtemp: private socket dir: no space left... can me anybody tell, how to get some disk space back?
[10:57] <kblin> hi
[10:57] <tondar> padee, got the same error, switched session to gnome got fixed
[10:57] <hilts50> Any luck with a solution to X Server output problem  (Can't find display) on a Macbook Pro 2.16 Core Duo?
[10:57] <padee> tondar: my session is gnome
[10:57] <tondar> yes
[10:58] <ducktape> hilts50: I've send you the solution in mp
[10:58] <ducktape> pm*
[10:58] <tondar> padee, at the login screen under session menu select gnome
[10:58] <hilts50> hmm
[10:58] <tondar> padee, then login
[10:58] <hilts50> sorry.  not showing up...  What are you using for your irc client?
[10:58] <ducktape> colloguy
[10:59] <hilts50> yeah, me too  where do pm's show up?
[10:59] <ducktape> lol in the sidebar?
[10:59] <kblin> is there a way to get linux/version.h built for my current running kernel to make vmware-tools happy?
[10:59] <padee> tondar: it doesnt work
[10:59] <junjan> In Feisty I can not burn DVDs :
[10:59] <junjan> DVD -R are recognized by the system, but Gnomebaker or Nautilus ruin the DVDs; Brasero does not begin the work...
[10:59] <tondar> padee, hmm
[11:00] <tondar> padee, u using beryl or compiz?
[11:00] <junjan> DVD +R are not recognized by the system showing an "invalid mount option" error.
[11:00] <pv2b> hilts50, ducktape: the problem is that you're both unregistered. as a security measure in freenode, it's impossible for unregistered users to send messages to people unless they specifically allow it
[11:00] <padee> tondar: beryl? compiz?
[11:00] <tondar> padee, NM
[11:00] <ducktape> thx
[11:00] <hilts50> ahh how do I get registered?  sorry first time in here.
[11:01] <Asad2005> help nfs mount failed server is down
[11:01] <ducktape> sorry everyone: I'm gonna send a lot of code through the channel
[11:01] <ducktape> wget https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run
[11:01] <ducktape> sudo apt-get update
[11:01] <ducktape> sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential
[11:01] <ducktape> sudo apt-get install fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc++5 gcc-3.3-base
[11:01] <ducktape> chmod +x ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run
[11:01] <ducktape> ./ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper
[11:01] <ducktape> sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_8.27.10-1_i386.deb
[11:01] <padee> tondar: can you be a little bit more explicit? i am not very familiar with computer stuff...
[11:01] <ducktape> sudo dpkg -i fglrx-kernel-source_8.27.10-1_i386.deb
[11:01] <ducktape> sudo dpkg -i fglrx-control_8.27.10-1_i386.deb
[11:01] <ducktape> sudo rm /usr/src/fglrx-kernel*.deb
[11:01] <ducktape> sudo module-assistant prepare,update
[11:01] <ducktape> sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx
[11:01] <ducktape> sudo depmod -a
[11:01] <kraut> moin
[11:01] <ducktape> sudo aticonfig --initial
[11:01] <ducktape> sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[11:01] <ducktape> sorry everyon
[11:01] <hilts50> thanks
[11:02] <tondar> padee, are you using or have installed any window-manager on your machine?
[11:02] <tondar> padee: !beryl
[11:02] <tondar> !beryl
[11:02] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:02] <tondar> !compiz padee
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz padee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <tondar> !beryl padee
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl padee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <padee> tondar: yes, now i understand. i got gnome and xfce. but the only login possible is over failsafe terminal
[11:03] <voltagex> how hard is it to set up Ubuntu as a thin client server
[11:03] <voltagex> ?
[11:04] <tondar> tondar, did you install anything lately on your machine?
[11:04] <voltagex> netboot or whatever it's called
[11:05] <CheshireViking> hi, i've just  been sent a ".ddp" file by email which i think is a "Delphi Diagram Portfoli" file, is there an application I can use to open it in Ubuntu?
[11:05] <padee> tondar: no, i got it from beginning....
[11:05] <padee> tonda
[11:05] <padee> how can i get some more diskspace? i think this is the actual problem..
[11:05] <DoctorOwl> I'm having trouble finding governments that run Ubuntu.  Does anyone know of an authorative list somewhere?
[11:05] <padee> tondar: how can i get some more diskspace? i think this is the actual problem..
[11:06] <tondar> padee, hold
[11:06] <Chai_Sangeen> hello everyone
[11:06] <Chai_Sangeen> im having trouble with my smb share only on fiesty can anyone help?
[11:07] <Flannel> DoctorOwl: #ubuntu-marketing might be a good place to ask
[11:07] <tondar> padee, here is a temporary fix:
[11:07] <DoctorOwl> Ok thanks Flannel
[11:08] <tondar> padee: just rename .ICEauthority to ..ICEauthority.bak from the failsafe terminal
[11:08] <Chai_Sangeen> i have server hosting my files with samba all clients can connect with no problem except my ubuntu laptop.. some times it works and sometimes it wont.
[11:08] <SmSpillaz> !ping
[11:08] <ubotu> pong
[11:08] <Flannel> voltagex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClientHowto
[11:08] <voltagex> whoa, the wiki rules
[11:09] <Flannel> voltagex: also, Edubuntu ships with a thinclient (with thinclient server) install option
[11:09] <voltagex> Flannel: I wonder if I'll be able to netboot an Intel Mac from that.
[11:09] <Chai_Sangeen> here is my fstab: //mediaserver/multimedia    /media/mediaserver/multimedia   smbfs  credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777    0    0
[11:09] <tondar> padee: Another easy way to correct the problem is write chown username .ICEauthority.
[11:10] <sevk> how to install pidgin-2.0.0-0.1.fc6.i386.rpm
[11:10] <Luft> hi, I'm trying to set up ECI adsl modem on ubuntu, and I have some problems
[11:10] <Flannel> padee: don't use sudo to run graphical programs in the future.  Use gksu and/or kdesu (for gnome/XFCE and kde, respectively)
[11:11] <anom> hello ppl.....what desktop effecter was used bz 7.04 Desktop effects?how can i configurate it?
[11:11] <Flannel> anom: Both beryl and compiz were.  #ubuntu-effects can give you all the gorey details (check the topic for URLs)
[11:11] <tondar> padee, sudo -s [enter password]  , killall gdm , apt-get install -f
[11:12] <tondar> padee, issue the above commands seperated by comma , ach on a line
[11:12] <tondar> each*
[11:12] <anom> Flannel thx......so it uses beryl on default install?or compiz?
[11:12] <Luft> Most specificaly, I need to patch the kernel, and had some trouble with it
[11:13] <Flannel> anom: They didn't have either with the default install
[11:13] <hilts50> Ducktape...  Looks like I may not have ethernet....  Keep getting failed: name or service not nknown.
[11:13] <padee> Flannel: i dont use sudo to run graphical stuff...
[11:14] <ducktape> how are you connected to the web?
[11:14] <tondar> padee, following?
[11:14] <anom> Flannel then what effects used by Desktop Effects menu?
[11:14] <Flannel> anom: there were none.  There wasn't a "desktop effects" menu pre-feisty
[11:14] <hilts50> I have ethernet plugged into the machine at the moment.
[11:14] <padee> tondar: following? i did the renaming of the .IRCsometing file... it didnt work...
[11:14] <ducktape> try "ping www.google.be"
[11:14] <hilts50> k
[11:14] <ducktape> are you getting any response?
[11:15] <ugh> how do i get feisty to detect my wireless card, i had it turned off when i did my install?
[11:15] <anom> but i use feisty
[11:15] <tondar> padee, did u issue those commands?
[11:15] <padee> tondar: no, not yet. i'll write you the whole error file, k?
[11:15] <tondar> padee, have you got any window-manager installed?
[11:16] <Flannel> anom: Oh.  I thought you were wondering before 7.04.  Uh, 7.04 uses compiz.  Help is in #ubuntu-effects
[11:16] <defcon> how do I switch between gnome and kde
[11:16] <ugh> anyone?
[11:16] <anom> i check the cannel you give,thanx Flannel!!!
[11:16] <ducktape> defcon: install kde/gnome and logout
[11:17] <ducktape> in the login window choose the session you want
[11:17] <defcon> haha
[11:17] <defcon> yo
[11:17] <defcon> this rocks
[11:17] <defcon> thnx
[11:17] <tondar> padee: Login in on one of the failsafe sessions and delete .ICEauthority from your home folder. You'll be back in business.
[11:18] <ugh> erm, how do i get 7.04 to detect my wireless card? i had it turned off when i did my install.
[11:18] <tondar> padee:u with me, try deleting the file .ICEauthority
[11:19] <CheshireViking> any way of opening a ".ddf" file in ubuntu?
[11:22] <gar> Can someone help me, I have some retarded questions.
[11:22] <theconartist> does running in failsafe terminal change anything?
[11:22] <asitaka> #list
[11:24] <Shin_Gouki> hello i wawnt to install jre 6 on xubuntu 7.04 whats the apt-get command?
[11:24] <CheshireViking> !ask | gar
[11:24] <ubotu> gar: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:24] <ugh> erm, how do i get 7.04 to detect my wireless card? i had it turned off when i did my install.
[11:25] <voltagex> Shin_Gouki: apt-cache search jre will give you the package names possible
[11:25] <Shin_Gouki> @ugh thats not very clever!
[11:25] <Shin_Gouki> thx voltagex
[11:25] <ugh> sorry i'm a noob..
[11:25] <Shin_Gouki> no prob
[11:25] <ugh> :(
[11:25] <voltagex> Shin_Gouki: no, that should not make any difference
[11:25] <Shin_Gouki> hmm -> network manager shows ur wireless card
[11:25] <ugh> so ya know how i can fix it?
[11:26] <ugh> no i dont see it
[11:26] <voltagex> ugh: wireless support should be installed no matter what
[11:26] <electra> can somebody help me .. i am new with ubuntu .. my installation getting stuck .. :(
[11:26] <voltagex> ugh: brand/model of card
[11:26] <ugh> well its built in... its in a sony vaio
[11:26] <voltagex> ugh: *which* sony vaio
[11:26] <ugh> sec
[11:27] <padee> people, i got this message during startup:  /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtemp and utmp, /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "padee", /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup, mkdtemp: privat socket dir: No space left on device
[11:27] <ugh> pcg-k35
[11:27] <voltagex> padee: run out of hard drive space?
[11:27] <ugh> model^
[11:27] <padee> voltagex: any idea how to fix it?
[11:27] <siloko> Hi Guys any network manager gurus out there?
[11:28] <voltagex> ugh: quite possibly an intel card!
[11:28] <siloko> or shall i just shot :)
[11:28] <siloko> *shoot*
[11:28] <voltagex> padee: how much hard drive space you got left?
[11:28] <gflash> hi
[11:28] <ugh> i think it is, i seem to remember that from when i had winxp on it
[11:28] <voltagex> ubotu: !ask | siloko
[11:28] <ubotu> siloko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:28] <gracek> hey
[11:28] <gracek> i've got a problem
[11:28] <siloko> ok :)
[11:29] <voltagex> ugh: one sec, this channel is soooo busy
[11:29] <ugh> ok
[11:29] <voltagex> gracek: we all have problems, just ask your question
[11:29] <gracek> gonna do it ;)
[11:29] <gflash> i want to install grub from knoppix; after chrooting and execution of grub-install hd0 i get the error message: The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. can someone help me plz?
[11:29] <anandanbu> can somebody help me with the X server as it seems to be corrupted and the splash screen and desktop are not visible clearly how do i retrieve it now im using the Ubuntu 7.04 live cd to browse
[11:29] <electra> is there nyway we could use the command line installation with the ubuntu live cd ?
[11:30] <siloko> I just added a user to my system but they only get internet connectivity through network manager when I bring up the connection with my original power user (i.e. the first user on the system)
[11:30] <voltagex> ugh: please pastebin the output of lspci WHILE your wireless card is on/enabled
[11:30] <gracek> im using a command that requires a path after it, so i type command and path. but command contains a space, so its treated as next attribute
[11:30] <cherva> when i logon into gnome i don't have windows borders and when i try to run Sustem  -> Preferences -> Windows have an error ( Can not start the preferences application for your windows manager. Window manager "unknown" has not registrated a configuration tool )
[11:30] <Akuma_> in gconf-editor's global_keybindings settings, <Control><Alt>= doesn't work. how can I encode = ?
[11:30] <voltagex> gracek: what command?
[11:30] <gracek> wine ;] 
[11:31] <jjido> Can I upgrade to Fiery using apt-get?
[11:31] <siloko> any ways of allowing this user access to network manager
[11:31] <ugh> voltagex: ok what do i type?
[11:31] <Jowi> cherva, did you install beryl?
[11:31] <Akuma_> gracek:  add quotes
[11:31] <siloko> do i just add him to the sudo-ers group?
[11:31] <cherva> Jowi : no
[11:31] <gracek> k
[11:31] <luca> hi everyone
[11:31] <luca>  I'd need help - yesterday I somhow broke "important" parts of kde and system - cannot use mouse scroll in kde anymore (ut in gnome it functions) and, most importantly, suspension is not called if I use the graphic manager, I have to activate it with hibernate-ram, from the command line
[11:31] <Shin_Gouki> @ugh so what u try to do now
[11:31] <bayziders> I really don't know where to ask this question so I will ask here =/. Can you mount an hdd in  a 5.25" drive bay?
[11:31] <Jowi> cherva, did you remove something (like metacity)?
[11:31] <siloko> (the other user is me in disguise so its no a security issue :))
[11:31] <RunCdFirst> good morning everybody
[11:32] <Jowi> morning RunCdFirst
[11:32] <siloko> Hey RunCdFirst
[11:32] <cherva> Jowi: no the last thing that I installed yesterday was g++ and code::blocks
[11:32] <knoeki> bayziders: well, you could, but it wouldn't fit well, as a HDD is much smaller...
[11:32] <roadfish> when I type "loadkeys dvorak" at a console window, I get "findkeymap: no such file or directory \n cannot open file dvorak" ... how do I fix this problem?
[11:32] <roadfish> 
[11:32] <anandanbu> can someone help me with the X window in Ubuntu 7.04
[11:32] <gracek> ok, it works
[11:33] <siloko> No takers? Perhaps I could explain this better on the forum . . .
[11:33] <padee> voltagex: 0
[11:33] <bayziders> knoeki: Yeah but my cases one 3.5 is full and I heard it was possible I just wanted to make sure.
[11:33] <voltagex> ugh: do you know what pastebin is?
[11:33] <RunCdFirst> somebody can help me with audio drivers?
[11:33] <voltagex> ubotu: !paste | ugh
[11:33] <ubotu> ugh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:34] <ugh> voltagex: I'm on a different puter...
[11:34] <luca> anyone?
[11:34] <gracek> how to get access to write in /usr/share/wine/fonts ?
[11:34] <knoeki> bayziders: it is possible, you have special extentions that you put the HDD in and then you put that into the 5.25" bay..
[11:34] <bayziders> Thanks.
[11:34] <voltagex> ugh: hmm, can you connect the laptop via an ethernet cable?
[11:34] <cherva> Jowi: any idea for the missing window borders ?
[11:34] <Jowi> cherva, which window manager do you normally use?
[11:34] <Greyhound> Hello, all you happy people ! :D
[11:34] <knoeki> oi Greyhound :D
[11:34] <cherva> Jowi: metacity
[11:34] <ugh> voltagex: no, we've been trying to do that all night
[11:34] <voltagex> padee: what?
[11:35] <gar> Hi guys, On trying to install from disk (from Vista) X server appears to be unavailable, any help?
[11:35] <cherva> Jowi: GNOME
[11:35] <voltagex> ugh: well, unfortunately you're going to have to type it out
[11:35] <Jowi> cherva, can you run "metacity" in a terminal or something to see if that helps?
[11:35] <ugh> ok
[11:35] <voltagex> ugh: in a terminal window on your laptop, type lspci
[11:35] <Greyhound> has anyone here tried openSUSE 10.2 ?
[11:35] <ugh> got it
[11:35] <voltagex> ugh: you could also copy paste it into a text document
[11:35] <cherva> Jowi: I cant't write text anywhere
[11:36] <voltagex> ugh: then save it to a flash drive or something, bring it over to this machine and email it to me
[11:36] <ugh> yup on it
[11:36] <Jowi> cherva, you should be able to get  a run dialog by pressing alt-f2 (someone correct me if I'm wrong since I am not using gnome)
[11:36] <defcon> how do I show the nicklist in xchat
[11:36] <defcon> anyone?
[11:36] <anandanbu> does anyone know how to repair a corrupted ubuntu system which doesn't show a proper window
[11:36] <cherva> Jowi: I know that sec to try
[11:37] <jscinoz> Evening everyone, I have a quick question: I use songbird as my media player on ubuntu, it has support for multimedia keys via an installled extension, my multimedia keys work perfectly... except they control rhythmbox rather than songbird. How can i change the default media player that's controlled by the multimedia keys.
[11:37] <cherva> Jowi: it's Ctrl + Alt + F1,2,3,4,5...
[11:37] <Jowi> cherva, no, that is not what i meant
[11:37] <Jowi> cherva, that is to change to a console
[11:37] <cherva> Jowi: ops my bad
[11:38] <Jowi> cherva, you should be able to get a run dialog (to launch a program). wait
[11:38] <cherva> Jowi: i can't open "run" i have a icon for the konsole
[11:38] <cherva> Jowi: but i cant write at all
[11:38] <padee> voltagex: i just deleted the trash, to check if theres now some more diskspace... but it doesnt work
[11:38] <Jowi> cherva, you get this each time you log in?
[11:38] <cherva> Jowi: yes FluxBox works normal
[11:39] <roadfish> how do I generate keymaps for "loadkeys" in Ubuntu?
[11:39] <padee> voltagex: on /dev/hda3 theres still 0 available
[11:40] <voltagex> padee: this is AFTER you've installed Ubuntu from the LiveCD and rebooted right?
[11:40] <padee> voltagex: i installed ubuntu one year ago...
[11:40] <voltagex> padee: just checking
[11:41] <voltagex> padee: try clearing as many files as possible, emptying the trash then rebooting just in case something's screwy or there's heaps in /tmp
[11:41] <padee> voltagex: and yesterday i got the message, that my disk is full.  i ignored it, and i couldnt safe a file anymore. so i restarted and since then i can only login via the failsafe-terminal
[11:41] <cherva> Jowi: i tryed with nvidia-xconfig same thing ... :(
[11:41] <voltagex> padee: well it's correct, your disk is FULL!
[11:41] <voltagex> ugh: you still here?
[11:42] <padee> voltagex: if i remember well, there's a comand to find the large files and directories and delete them...
[11:42] <beni> I want to save my Backup data on /var/backups/ put it states "PERM. DENIED", how to chown it ?
[11:42] <Jowi> cherva, I'm a bit confused. if you press alt-f2, you can not type in the box?
[11:42] <kemik> anyone knows where this comes from: "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)."
[11:42] <kemik> i've no clue what todo :x
[11:42] <padee> voltagex: what is this command? or how do i do that?
[11:42] <voltagex> padee: cd / && du -ch | sort | less
[11:42] <cherva> Jowi: it doesn't open at all
[11:42] <voltagex> padee: that will show you which files/directories are largest, sort of
[11:42] <beni> I want to save my Backup data on /var/backups/ but it states "PERM. DENIED", how do I "chown" it ?
[11:43] <ugh> voltagex: ok can i pm it to you?
[11:43] <voltagex> ugh: fine
[11:43] <gflash> i try to intsall grub, but i get the error message The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. the file exists. can somebody help me plz?
[11:44] <padee> voltagex: great. and how do i find out, if i can really delete them?
[11:44] <nessmuk> can one upgrade from Ubuntu Dapper directly to Xubuntu Feisty, or is it better to install the Xubuntu fresh, from scratch.
[11:44] <ablabla> so.. where can I see what version of Xorg I have?
[11:44] <ablabla> using ubuntu 7.04
[11:45] <LordGreyhound> has anyone here tried openSUSE 10.2 ?
[11:45] <voltagex> padee: rm "filename"
[11:45] <Jowi> cherva, well, you can try to reset gnome settings (since we can not troubleshoot in gnome). log into fluxbox, open a terminal, delete .gnome* (if that does not help delete .gconf* as well)
[11:45] <Jitenz> hello room
[11:45] <Jitenz> can any1 help me with pppoeconf
[11:45] <Jowi> cherva, that is what I would have done at least. best suggestion I can give you at the moment.
[11:45] <defcon> what do a press to list processes like alt ctrl del
[11:45] <gar> Hi guys, On trying to install from disk (from Vista) it says X server is unavailable/not installed correctly, any help?
[11:46] <padee> voltagex: hm, that i know, but i'd like to be sure, that i dont delete something, what the system needs, you know? how can i be sure to delete unimportant stuff?
[11:46] <nessmuk> defcon....use System Monitor under Applications
[11:46] <voltagex> padee: find out what's huge, then ask in here
[11:46] <padee> volt
[11:46] <padee> voltagex: ok, tnx
[11:46] <defcon> can I bind it to a key
[11:46] <Jowi> cherva, an alternative is to just rename those dirs starting with .gnome since all the settings for your programs will dissappear.
[11:46] <logixoul> Hi. I'm trying to use the Feisty LiveCD to fix my GRUB installation. I copied the /boot/grub dir from the installed partition into the LiveCD ramdisk root dir. Then sudo grub-install /dev/hda returns this error: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device. How do I fix this?
[11:47] <cherva> Jowi: thx I'll try
[11:47] <Jitenz> i have messed up my pppoeconf. i wanna restore it to its original setting. how to
[11:48] <Jitenz> plz help
[11:48] <defcon> i tried logging out to switch window managers and didnt see an option 2 do so
[11:48] <defcon> can I do it while staying logged in
[11:49] <erUSUL> logixoul: i think that an easier way to do it is to chroot to the hard disk install and issue the grub-install command from the chroot
[11:49] <erUSUL> logixoul: also maybe with the new libata drivers /dev/hda has become /dev/sda
[11:50] <ertwroc> Hi
[11:50] <Jitenz> anyone plz help me. i am not being able to run pppoeconf on my 7.04 sys. it just hangs
[11:50] <defcon> best firewall for ubuntu
[11:50] <defcon> ?
[11:51] <hilts50> DuckTape...  running into a problem at the  ./ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper   Says "./ati-installer.sh: 156: Syntax error: Bad Substitution....  Then Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install
[11:51] <logixoul> erUSUL: chroot was my first thought as well, but the HDD install's /dev dir lacks hd* entries, as well as sd* ones -- I suspect they only exist while I'm in that Kubuntu installation -- and right now I'm in the LiveCD.
[11:51] <hilts50> Any ideas?
[11:51] <logixoul> erUSUL: is there a way to use BSD-style device names with grub-install?
[11:51] <padee> voltagex: /home/padee/.mozilla/ is 15M
[11:51] <voltagex> padee: how big is hda3?
[11:51] <Akuma_> in gconf-editor's global_keybindings settings, <Control><Alt>= doesn't work. how can I encode = ?
[11:51] <logixoul> erUSUL: (hd0)? or hd0?
[11:52] <voltagex> padee: that is, what is hda3's capacity
[11:52] <logixoul> erUSUL: (about sda, no, I only have hd* device files)
[11:52] <hilts50> ohh  looks like ductape is gone.  anyone else have any ideas for me?
[11:53] <Vanuatoo_> I've got a problem that I reported as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/114196. Can anyone look at it?
[11:54] <Kubuntu> How do I use gutenprint?
[11:54] <padee> vo
[11:54] <ertwroc> I am trying to run separate X session on two monitors connected to my dual-head video card, but now second monitor is only gray. any ideas?
[11:54] <padee> voltagex: 10GB
[11:54] <anandanb1> my xorg.conf is corrupted and how can i modify it
[11:54] <tmske> Hi, someone who can help me with getting a plugable belkin wireless card working, I tried howto's for ndiswrapper, but I can't get it working
[11:55] <Kubuntu> How do I use gimp-print?
[11:55] <logixoul> anandanb1: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:55] <voltagex> padee: is there any software (packages) on there that you do not need? Ubuntu's gonna need more than 15M to run
[11:55] <logixoul> anandanb1: then Ctrl+O to "write-Out"
[11:55] <anandanb1> i can t even go into the desktop the splash screen itself is corrupted
[11:55] <anandanb1> now im using my live cd to connect to internet
[11:56] <Siulas> how to set usb hard disk to read & write?
[11:56] <padee> voltagex: hm, i dont know... there's no space on hda3, right? so how to i check the big files on hda3 only?
[11:56] <ertwroc> anyone is using two monitors with separate X sessions?
[11:56] <anandanb1> actullay the problem may be because of changing the default monitor in it
[11:56] <voltagex> padee: that command I gave you should have done that
[11:56] <logixoul> Siulas: probably edit /etc/fstab and add rw to the thumbdrive option list... not really sure.
[11:56] <roey_> some body can help me
[11:56] <logixoul> anandanb1: do you have your installed partition mounted right now?
[11:57] <anandanb1> i had set it to a different monitor other than my monitor
[11:57] <voltagex> padee: cd / && du -ch | egrep G$ | sort | less
[11:57] <anandanb1> yes i have mounted that partition
[11:57] <padee> voltagex: it checked all filesystems... also my home, which is hda6
[11:57] <ugh> voltgex i'm back
[11:57] <padee> voltagex: and my windows partitions... btw...
[11:58] <voltagex> padee: oops, sorry
[11:58] <|carlos|t41|> oi
[11:58] <voltagex> padee: you'll just have to cope, thats all I can think of
[11:58] <voltagex> padee: cd / && du -ch | egrep G$ | sort | less
[11:58] <voltagex> padee: that's a new command
[11:58] <anandanb1> logixoul what am i supposed to do with that mounted partition
[11:59] <roey_> somebody now how instal sslvpn on firefox
[11:59] <hilts50> anybody else have expierence getting 7.04 to run on a macbook Pro 2.16 core duo?  having trouble with the install specifically with monitor issues.  Started to follow some directions provided by Ductape and ran into some problems along the way.  Help would be appreciated.
[12:00] <roey_> i have error access denied -202
[12:00] <ertwroc> how to configure system for two monitors with separate X sessions?
[12:00] <padee> voltagex: i tried that one... it still gives me output with /media/hda1 and other partitions
[12:00] <Siulas> logixoul that drive isn't in fstab.. :/
[12:00] <Bradford> Does anyone know a Mac IRC channel???
[12:01] <phoenixbyrd> #mac I would assume
[12:01] <voltagex> padee: cope with it, until someone else more knowledgeable comes in, or resize a windows partition, or format your hard drive - 10GB is SMALL
[12:01] <voltagex> Bradford: #osx
[12:01] <Bradford> voltagex, thank you so million
[12:01] <logixoul> anandanb1: well, open etc/X11/xorg.conf from it
[12:01] <padee> voltagex: ok. tnx.
[12:02] <logixoul> Siulas: you sure? maybe it's just listed with its UUID
[12:02] <Bradford> voltagex "#osx :You need to be identified to join that channel". What's that mean?
[12:02] <voltagex> Bradford: /msg nickserv register
[12:02] <roey_> hii
[12:03] <roey_> somebody can help
[12:03] <Bradford> voltagex, what's that mean?
[12:03] <ziroday> !ask | roey_
[12:03] <ubotu> roey_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:03] <roey_> ok
[12:03] <fritz> hi
[12:03] <Pitel> is somewhere a list of lates updated packages in official repositiories?
[12:04] <voltagex> Bradford: you need to "identify" yourself to the IRC server
[12:04] <voltagex> Bradford: if you send a message to a bot named nickserv it will tell you how
[12:04] <Jitenz> can any1 help me with pppoeconf, i am really in trouble
[12:04] <Bradford> voltagex, I'm sorry... I'm really nub, how do i send a message in xchat?
[12:04] <Jowi> !register | Bradford
[12:04] <ubotu> Bradford: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:04] <Siulas> logixoul i forgot to say its ntfs
[12:05] <voltagex> Jowi: sorry, didn't realise that existed
[12:05] <logixoul> Hey, I'm in the Feisty LiveCD, fixing my GRUB installation. I sudo chrooted into /media/hda2/boot/grub (hda2 is the installed partition). Then grub-install hd0 returns this error: /dev/hda4: Not found or not a block device. However, /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't mention hda4. How do I fix this?
[12:05] <voltagex> ubotu: !ask | Jitenz
[12:05] <ubotu> Jitenz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:05] <ertwroc> Can anyone help with setup system for two separate X session on two monitors?
[12:05] <Jitenz> i ran pppoeconf. it was ok.
[12:05] <Jitenz> but then i ran it again. everything messed up
[12:06] <Jitenz> utotu: plz help me
[12:06] <ziroday> Jitenz: ubotu is a bot
[12:06] <garo113> Hi guys, I'm having this problem https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/6469 if anyone can help me out I'd greatly appreciate it
[12:06] <padee> anyone who can tell me, how i can list all installed programs in a console? and how to uninstall them?
[12:06] <voltagex> Jitenz: ask your question!
[12:06] <roey_> when i install plun of vpn on firefox i have error access denied -202 somebody now what is error
[12:08] <Jitenz> voltagex: i ran pppoeconf. it was working fine. but i needed to change my account. so i ran it again. it would hang up
[12:08] <hilts50> anyone able to help with my install on a macbook Pro?
[12:08] <voltagex> Jitenz: you don't need to ask me directly, besides I don't use ppoeconf, and what do you mean "hang up" ?
[12:08] <Andie> if i setup a router with iptables is dhcp server needed anymore?
[12:08] <ziroday> hilts50: ill try what is wrong
[12:08] <Andie> !router
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <Andie> !gateway
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gateway - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <Andie> !nat
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <Jitenz> i just meant that it would not respond.
 if i setup a router with iptables is dhcp server needed anymore? <<< dhcp is for autiomatic address assignement, NAT is for internet access
[12:10] <fritz> Andie: however, if you tell every computer in the network the gateway, dnsserver and netmask you dontneed dhcp
[12:10] <hilts50> Ziroday did you get my pm?
[12:10] <Andie> a tutorial please...
[12:11] <Bradford> #osx
[12:11] <ziroday> hilts50: yep
[12:11] <ziroday> hilts50: did u see my response?
[12:11] <fritz> Andie: you asked a question, u became an answer
[12:11] <hilts50> not so much
[12:11] <netpython> Andie, or if you  asign a static ip-address you also don't need a DHCP server
[12:12] <ziroday> hilts50: i have a feeling this isnt going to work then
[12:12] <fritz> netpython: already told him ^^
[12:12] <hilts50> I just registered may have to log out and back int.
[12:12] <hilts50> in
[12:12] <hilts50> stand by
[12:13] <Bradford> Yeah, those Mac channels are dead... Has anyone here installed Darwin Ports on a Mac???
[12:13] <pandina> excuse-me, i would know what is "scrollkeeper-up": it uses 70% of my cpu and i don't know what is it!
[12:13] <padee> anyone who can tell me, how i can list all installed programs in a console? and how to uninstall them?
[12:13] <blackgraz_> padee, apt-get remove programname
[12:14] <Hagg4> hello! I'm having problems with my Internet connection, any1 know how to find what the error is? Is there a good program to help me?
[12:14] <Hausberg> is there somewhere a kind of matrix which nvidia driver version I can try against which kernel and xorg
[12:15] <ziroday> hilts50: i can see what you are saying but i dont think you can see what im saying
[12:15] <hilts50> yeah... sorry.
[12:15] <hilts50> feel like giving it a try in here?
[12:15] <garo113> Anyone ever have trouble when installing ubuntu 7.04 with it saying that x server isn't found
[12:15] <padee> blackgraz_: tnx. and how do i get a list or an overview of all installed progs?
[12:15] <logixoul> Guys, I'm in the Feisty LiveCD, fixing my bootloader. I sudo chrooted into /media/hda2/ (the installed partition). Then grub-install hd0 returns this error: /dev/hda4: Not found or not a block device. However, /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't mention 	hda4	 or 	hd0,3	. What should I do?
[12:15] <ziroday> hilts50: not your fault prob mine sure what exactly is wrong
[12:16] <rausb0> padee: dpkg -l | less  will list them, sudo apt-get remove PACKAGE will remove PACKAGE
[12:16] <padee> rausb0: tnx a lot.
[12:16] <hilts50> when monitors were not working Followed user "ducktape" directions.....
[12:16] <habeeb> Hey there. I'm right now installing Feisty. The Xeffects are working but afaik it's Compiz. Can I switch to Beryl?
[12:16] <hilts50> wget https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run
[12:16] <defcon> anyone know of a good truecrypt gui for ubuntu
[12:16] <erUSUL> habeeb: yes
[12:17] <hilts50> did that.. followed some more steps.  got to....../ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper
[12:17] <netpython> defcon, forcefield
[12:17] <erUSUL> !beryl | habeeb
[12:17] <ubotu> habeeb: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:17] <defcon> netpython,
[12:17] <defcon> I just installed that
[12:17] <ziroday> hilts50: what gfx card do you have>
[12:17] <defcon> and I cant find it
[12:17] <defcon> where is it lol
[12:17] <hilts50> stand by.
[12:17] <netpython> acessesoires
[12:17] <garo113> ! xserver
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <garo113> ! x server
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <hilts50> ATY, RadeonX1600
[12:18] <defcon> wtf its not there
[12:18] <defcon> u got a good link
[12:18] <ziroday> hilts50: what ver of ubuntu are you running
[12:18] <defcon> I think i dl'd an older ver
[12:18] <hilts50> 7.04
[12:18] <trinzy> jou
[12:18] <bullgard4> IRC: 'associate': What does it mean 'to associate an IRC network with an IRC server'?
[12:18] <netpython> defcon, you might want to give automatix2 a try :-)
[12:18] <ziroday> hilts50: then you should try the envy script to do what ur trying to do
[12:19] <defcon> automatrix2 nice?
[12:19] <netpython> yes
[12:19] <defcon> im searching google right now
[12:19] <defcon> hehe
[12:19] <rausb0> !automatix
[12:19] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:19] <hilts50> what is the envy script?
[12:19] <hilts50> this in the wiki?
[12:19] <ziroday> hilts50: basically what youre trying to do but 100 times easier
[12:20] <hilts50> haha thats nice  :)
[12:20] <ziroday> hilts50: it has a gui and you should be up and running in 3 clicks
[12:20] <defcon> defcon@desktop:~$ forcefield
[12:20] <defcon> /usr/bin/forcefield:7: DeprecationWarning: the module egg.trayicon is deprecated; equivalent functionality can now be found in pygtk 2.10
[12:20] <defcon> etc
[12:20] <defcon> ...
[12:20] <hansin321> !WorksForMe
[12:20] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:20] <ziroday> hilts50: gimme a min
[12:20] <hilts50> k
[12:20] <hilts50> thanks
[12:20] <pandina> exuseme, someone can tell me what is scrollkeeper-up?
[12:21] <hansin321> Thanks ubotu ;)
[12:22] <ziroday> hilts50: http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.3-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[12:22] <ziroday> hilts50: then install it
[12:22] <Hagg4> hello! I'm having problems with my Internet connection, any1 know how to find what the error is?
[12:23] <hilts50> so wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.3-0ubuntu2_all.deb  ?
[12:23] <defcon> where do I get automatrix2
[12:23] <hilts50> still pretty new to this.
[12:23] <stefg> !automatix
[12:23] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:24] <HymnToLife> defcon, you don't
[12:24] <defcon> o
[12:24] <defcon> I got it already I guess
[12:24] <defcon> lol
[12:25] <netpython> defcon, http://www.getautomatix.com/
[12:26] <ziroday> hilts50: sorry in firefox put that url in
[12:26] <e6nian> anybody
[12:26] <hilts50> k
[12:26] <e6nian> hello
[12:26] <hilts50> did that... have it downloaded.  on this machine.  How do i run that on the machine that im trying to install ubuntu on?
[12:26] <e6nian> does anybody kn how to link firefox to amule
[12:27] <beni> how can I get mod_rewrite working with my apache2 on feisty desktop??
[12:27] <defcon> netpython, got a wget link for the latest ver of forcefield
[12:27] <e6nian> does anybody kn how to link firefox to amule
[12:27] <defcon> I installed .1.1
[12:27] <defcon> doesnt work ;\
[12:27] <x_> hello world
[12:27] <defcon> quick way to uninstall a .deb package
[12:28] <defcon> ?
[12:28] <beni> how can I get mod_rewrite working with my apache2 on feisty desktop??
[12:28] <ziroday> hilts50: ohh im sorry i thought you had ubuntu installed
[12:28] <Endlessguitar> hello
[12:28] <hilts50> not so much
[12:28] <Endlessguitar> can some1 help me to  configure beryl right?
[12:29] <hilts50> got stuck on the monitor part of the install
[12:29] <ziroday> hilts50: go you have a screen or a command line
[12:29] <KenSentMe> beni, sudo a2dismod rewrite
[12:29] <hilts50> command line at the moment.
[12:29] <KenSentMe> beni, sorry, sudo a2enmod rewrite
[12:29] <hilts50> when its loading up the install it does a screen check and then goes to command line.
[12:29] <stoffell_h> morning all; i have just got xubuntu up and running on a dell pavilion but can't connect to the wpa accesspoint, iwlist scan does find the wlan though... any hints?
[12:30] <ziroday> hilts50: are you using alternate or regular cd?
[12:30] <beni> KenSentMe: Haha, thanks!!!
[12:30] <Endlessguitar> are some1 good at beryl?
[12:30] <KenSentMe> beni, a2dismod is to disable it again
[12:30] <beni> KenSentMe: yeh i noticed it
[12:30] <KenSentMe> !beryl
[12:30] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:31] <netpython> stefg, does feisty have w32codecs in it's repo? :-)
[12:31] <ziroday> hilts50: does your mac have an intel core?
[12:31] <amachu> hi, i have a Laptop and Desktop
[12:31] <logixoul> any idea why my / partition doesn't show in kinfocenter (and df), and in qtparted its used space appears as "N/A"?
[12:31] <hilts50> hmm not sure.  Donwloaded ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso today and burned it as an iso cd with toast.
[12:31] <amachu> i need to connect them for file sharing
[12:31] <KenSentMe> !w32codecs | netpython
[12:31] <ubotu> netpython: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[12:31] <hilts50> and yes  2.16 intel core duo
[12:31] <ziroday> hilts50: thats regualer
[12:31] <Frogzoo> !codecs
[12:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:31] <stefg> netpython: seveas 'repo has it
[12:31] <amachu> how do i do it
[12:31] <stefg> !w32codec
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <Frogzoo> KenSentMe: codecs aren't in the offical repos for IP reasons
[12:31] <stefg> !w32codecs
[12:31] <netpython> stefg, third party :-)
[12:31] <stoffell_h> morning all; i have just got xubuntu up and running on a dell pavilion but can't connect to the wpa accesspoint, iwlist scan does find the wlan though... any hints?
[12:32] <Matic`Makovec> Hey there. When I try to run an application over wine, I get the response "install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables". I did apt-get install mono but that doesn't seem to suit it. Any other ideas?
[12:32] <ziroday> hilts50: kk in command line type in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and when it comes to the part about graphics card drivers select "vesa"
[12:32] <stefg> netpython: 2.5 :-)
[12:32] <voltagex> on the macbooks, the keyboard doesn't seem to work in the CD's bootloader so I can't specify boot options
[12:32] <logixoul> how do I find out the UUID of a partition?
[12:32] <Frogzoo> logixoul: blkid
[12:33] <logixoul> thanks
[12:33] <Latty> What would be the command for burning ISOs from the terminal?
[12:33] <ziroday> geo_: hows norway?
[12:33] <geo_> ziroday: what do you mean?:)
[12:34] <hilts50> ziroday:  working so far.  what should I select for amount of memory to be used by the video card?
[12:34] <Endlessguitar> can some1 help me to find a swedish guide to beryl how to  setup the beryl settings  managr?
[12:34] <ziroday> geo_: are you in norway?
[12:34] <stefg> !beryl | Endlessguitar
[12:34] <ubotu> Endlessguitar: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:34] <geo_> ziroday: that's correct
[12:34] <stoffell_h> oh; forget my wlan question, got it sorted out!
[12:34] <ziroday> hilts50: err i think nothing read what the instructions say you dont really want to specify any
[12:34] <ziroday> geo_ neva  mind
[12:35] <stefg> !UUID | logixoul
[12:35] <ubotu> logixoul: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[12:35] <hilts50> ziroday:  got it thanks
[12:35] <logixoul> very informative, thanks
[12:35] <defcon> wow automatrix2 is nice
[12:35] <ziroday> hilts50: np
[12:35] <Endlessguitar> okey
[12:36] <Endlessguitar> stfg?
[12:36] <Endlessguitar> stefg?
[12:36] <stefg> here
[12:36] <Latty> What would be the command for burning ISOs from the terminal?
[12:37] <stefg> Latty: man cdrecord, mkisofs
[12:37] <wilsud> lug-kleve
[12:37] <misfitpierce> whats up all
[12:37] <Latty> stefg: Thanks.
[12:37] <stefg> Latty: it's no single command, but a suite of utils you have to employ
[12:38] <Latty> I allready made the ISOs in a GUI program, I just have to burn from CLI because no GUI apps support burning two things at once.
[12:38] <ziroday> hilts50: hows it going?
[12:38] <misfitpierce> good, you?
[12:38] <ziroday> lol
[12:40] <ducktape> is hilts50 still trying to get ubuntu on a mbp?
[12:40] <misfitpierce> anyone try out that ubuntustudio
[12:40] <misfitpierce> looked pretty nice
[12:40] <ziroday> ducktape: yeah
[12:40] <afief> !sound > afief
[12:40] <ziroday> misfitpierce: it looks awesome but i couldnt get on ;(
[12:40] <padee> people, i still get this message during startup, after deleting trash and uninstalling a couple of programs:  /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtemp and utmp, /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "padee", /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup, mkdtemp: privat socket dir: No space left on device
[12:40] <misfitpierce> to the website?
[12:40] <Shin_Gouki> hi i run xubuntu 7.04 how do i assign a CERTAIN application to a specific fileformat?
[12:41] <ziroday> misfitpierce: yeah
[12:41] <ducktape> I didn't find it that hard and I'm not a geek in any way; besides the glasses - no friends - linux - etc :)
[12:41] <misfitpierce> I can send you a link to torrent if youd like
[12:41] <misfitpierce> in a zip file
[12:41] <ziroday> misfitpierce: thanks that would be great
[12:41] <IMYojimbo> anyone know Java SWT?
[12:42] <hilts50> ducktape: yes.
[12:42] <ziroday> hilts50: you reconfigure your xserver yet?
[12:42] <misfitpierce> ziro i sent in PM
[12:42] <ducktape> I never reconfigured anything
[12:42] <misfitpierce> direct link to torrent
[12:43] <ziroday> misfitpierce: thanks a load
[12:43] <misfitpierce> np
[12:43] <hilts50> ducktape: was following your steps ran into some trouble at the ..../ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper
[12:43] <feed-> Hi, how can i set up a remote console on a Xubuntu distro? Thanks.. qry me
[12:43] <ducktape> perhaps it would have worked with Ubuntu/edgy
[12:44] <ducktape> I know their was an easier way to get it working
[12:44] <kirkunit> anyone in the UK may want to watch BBC 24 now... piece about Ubuntu
[12:44] <kirkunit> BBC 24 news
[12:44] <misfitpierce> Need to hit that up in US
[12:44] <ducktape> the solution is in an  bug report for Feisty
[12:44] <ducktape> but I can't find it anymore
[12:45] <padee> people, i still get this message during startup, after deleting trash and uninstalling a couple of programs:  /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtemp and utmp, /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "padee", /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup, mkdtemp: privat socket dir: No space left on device. anyone any ideas?
[12:45] <geo_> kirkunit: what's it about? the future world-domination of linux crap?;)
[12:45] <hilts50> ziroday: just did I think.  it kicked me back to the command line.  How do I get back into the installer?
[12:45] <CheshireViking> any way of opening a ".ddf" file in ubuntu?
[12:45] <feed-> Hi, how can i set up a remote console on a Xubuntu distro? Thanks.. qry me
[12:46] <jrib> feed-: you mean ssh?
[12:46] <kirkunit> geo_: no Ubuntu use in third world countries. Mark Shuttleworth interviewed.
[12:46] <geo_> kirkunit: ah..that's brilliant
[12:46] <feed-> donno.. it's the first time =)
[12:46] <jrib> !ssh > feed- (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:46] <geo_> CheshireViking: it's a special acdsee file, isn't it?
[12:46] <ziroday> hilts50: it did :(
[12:47] <geo_> CheshireViking: might need to run acdsee with wine or something to be able to open it.
[12:47] <ziroday> hilts50: can you do ctrl-atl-bkspace
[12:47] <ducktape> hilts50:
[12:47] <ducktape> try this
[12:47] <ducktape> ubuntustudio
[12:47] <ducktape> crap
[12:47] <ziroday> ducktape: why?
[12:47] <ducktape> hmm can't copy-paste
[12:47] <ducktape> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:47] <ducktape> sudo depmod -a
[12:47] <ducktape> sudo aticonfig --initial
[12:47] <ducktape> sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[12:47] <ducktape> startx
[12:47] <ducktape> here you go
[12:48] <CheshireViking> geo_, i'm not 100% sure what it is, i should have said ".ddb" file, pressed the wrong key
[12:48] <hilts50> ducktape:  need an internet connection on my ubuntu box to do any of that ?
[12:48] <ziroday> hilts50: yes
[12:48] <ducktape> jup
[12:49] <hilts50> if so I have to pull the plug on this ...
[12:49] <hilts50> k
[12:49] <hilts50> brb  :)
[12:49] <Huffameg> i am linux newbie and have some questions concerning DVDplayers and monitors.. anyone who can help me?
[12:49] <CheshireViking> geo_, could be a type of bitmap graphics files
[12:49] <mazza558> hey, is there any way to lock AMD processors on performance mode (2.4 ghz as opposed to switching between 1.8 nd 2.4)
[12:49] <CheshireViking> geo_, just trying gimp
[12:50] <Latty> Huffameg: Ask the question, and If someone knows, they will tell you.
[12:50] <ducktape> ubuntu is great, but honestly their are so many different wiki's and faqs and bug reports and ...
[12:50] <misfitpierce> yes there is you need the powerstate console command
[12:50] <misfitpierce> I dont know them off top of my head
[12:51] <kemik> ducktape: like all linux dists :X
[12:51] <mazza558> misfitpierce: does this require entering the settings at every session, or it is a one-time tweak?
[12:51] <stefg> !dvd | Huffameg
[12:51] <ubotu> Huffameg: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:51] <ducktape> If you're a minority, like linux, you shouldn't be doing this: you should combine strengths (you know, like lord of the rings :p)
[12:51] <stefg> !fixres | Huffameg
[12:51] <ubotu> Huffameg: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:52] <Huffameg> My DVDplayer doesn't work properly.. (I use Totem) when I put in a DVD it will start playing directly without the menus and if I stop the player and press "Play Disc" to do it again it will just tell me that I'm lacking a component or a plugin or something..
[12:52] <feed-> Guys, aMule vs MLDonkey?
[12:52] <Huffameg> I have tried Ogle, but that doesn't work at all..
[12:52] <stefg> Huffameg: see the howtos ubotu threw at you :-)
[12:52] <Latty> ducktape: The whole point of linux is that you can choose what you want, people write because they want this or that feature.
[12:52] <misfitpierce> believe one time
[12:52] <Latty> Forcing everyone to work together would never work.
[12:52] <obiwan_> no video-device found for ekiga-cam on macbook isight - who can help???
[12:52] <mazza558> misfitpierce: just did a quick search on the forums and it seems that this is only for ATI graphica cards..
[12:53] <mazza558> misfitpierce: *graphics
[12:53] <Latty> The current system may be slower, but it makes linux diverse.
[12:54] <misfitpierce> hang on
[12:54] <ducktape> true, but my complaint is that I don't find the information I need to as fast as I want it to, because everyone writes wikis and faqs, bugreports ... and somewhere in that pile of informations lies the one answer I need
[12:54] <misfitpierce> im tryin to find it
[12:55] <Latty> ducktape: Yes, but frankly, it'd be nigh-impossible to do it any other way.
[12:55] <Latty> And if you did, you'd probably just end up with half the answers.
[12:55] <Latty> This way, they are all out there, it takes a while to find, the other way, it'd be fast, but only half would find their answer.
[12:56] <LordGreyhound> I have an external TV tuner (Leadtek WinFast TV USB II Deluxe) does anyone know if I'll experience any problems installing/using it ? :D
[12:56] <JammasterJay> Just installed ubuntu 6, with firefox my fonts look alittle wonky...is there a setting to have them looking alittle nicer?
[12:57] <defcon> any way to run my windows vista on another partition in ubuntu?
[12:57] <misfitpierce> mazza i sent PM
[12:57] <misfitpierce> might help
[12:57] <netpython> ducktape, google is your friend and in addition there are lots of ways to build your private library quite easily :-)
[12:58] <MoLE_> LordGreyhound, have a look at linuxtv.org DVB wiki (assuming it's a digital tuner, of course)
[12:58] <LordGreyhound> thanks
[12:59] <LordGreyhound> btw... has anyone tried openSUSE 10.2 ?
[12:59] <Matic`Makovec> Ubuntu here, Suse there --->
[12:59] <stefg> defcon: theoretically the commercial vmware-workstation can do that, but that would require switching between to hardware-profiles if you still want to boot it natively. Far too dangerous (and wasn't vista crippled to not run in VM's BTW?)
[12:59] <ducktape> so how is it going hilts50_
[01:00] <hilts50_> ducktape: that worked...  im up and running now...  have a window that says  "in order for this computer to function properly, Ubuntu may be using driver software that cannot be supported."  it lists to drivers  1.  ATI accelerated graphics driver  (which is not enabled but is in use) and 2.  Atheros Hardware Access Layer (HAL)  that is enabled and in use.
[01:00] <hilts50_> that a bad thing?
[01:00] <dmhouse> Hey all. I'm transferring a long list of songs to my iPod using Rhythmbox. Is there any way I can get a list of the songs I've chosen to transfer?
[01:00] <ducktape> had that to
[01:00] <hilts50_> okay... so just go to the installer?
[01:00] <Latty> stefg: Nah, you just can't run Windows Vista under the same copy of Windows Vista.
[01:00] <Latty> Or at least, that's what I remember reading in a Slashdot comment, so take it with a grain of salt.
[01:00] <ducktape> don't really know I solved it ... it think it's just temporary: you're going to install the system an d then update it
[01:01] <ducktape> how I solved it*
[01:01] <hilts50_> k
[01:01] <stefg> Latty: might be... mot very interested in Vista :-)
[01:01] <ducktape> enjoy it
[01:01] <hilts50_> thanks for your help  :)
[01:01] <ducktape> np
[01:01] <Latty> stefg: Same, My current PC has never had Windows on it :P
[01:01] <misfitpierce> I bought Vista... Wasted my money lol
[01:01] <misfitpierce> broke disc a week later
[01:01] <misfitpierce> very disappointed
[01:02] <LordGreyhound> Matic`Makovec: I know this is the ubuntu chat room but I was just asking if anyone has used both so they can point out some differences between the two :P
[01:02] <selinuxium> Hi all, once you have a samba share in place. Can you use the command line to cp files?
[01:02] <Matic`Makovec> LordGreyhound, Ubuntu is better
[01:03] <misfitpierce> indeed
[01:03] <LordGreyhound> even for linux noobs, like I am ? :)
[01:03] <Baheer> what for we are using Xammp?
[01:03] <misfitpierce> yes
[01:03] <misfitpierce> cause you can learn ubuntu
[01:03] <Latty> I, personally, have found ubuntu better than suse. Easier, more polished, and generally better.
[01:03] <misfitpierce> Vista is bugged like crazy. Takes over 400MB ram usualy on fresh boot idling and more stuff thats just crazy
[01:03] <selinuxium> LordGreyhound: I have used both, the package management in SUSE is not a nice. I find it easier to navigate around ubuntu as well.
[01:04] <Latty> Then again, that's why I am here.
[01:04] <Latty> misfitpierce: Ouch. Add an antivirus as well and that is painful.
[01:05] <LordGreyhound> I noticed that in suse you can choose which environment you wish to use... can you change the environment in ubuntu also, or in order to use KDE you need to install kubuntu ?
[01:05] <ducktape> LordGreyhound:
[01:05] <Pitel> is somewhere a list of lates updated packages in official repositiories??
[01:05] <ducktape> apt-get install kde
[01:05] <stefg> BTW ... vista rants go to #ubuntu-offtopic (and, yes, I'm guilty, too)
[01:06] <ducktape> or better: sudo apt-get install kde
[01:06] <Latty> LordGreyhound: Yeah, Allthough note I'd reccomend gnome over KDE any day.
[01:06] <Latty> KDE is ugly, slower, complicated.
[01:06] <ducktape> ditto
[01:06] <Latty> It does have great configurability mind (I'm running KDE now)
[01:06] <ducktape> the only good thing about kde is digikam
[01:06] <Latty> and better applications.
[01:07] <selinuxium> LordGreyhound: You can use KDE apps on a gnome system.
[01:07] <selinuxium> LordGreyhound: If you want to...
[01:07] <Latty> selinuxium: Yeah, allthough with an annoyingly different interface.
[01:07] <Pitel> ducktape: i think f-spot is fine, but i prefer k3b over gnomebaker
[01:08] <ncd> hey been test driving using the beryl.. I must commend the development squad :)
[01:08] <ncd> of ubuntu & beryl!!
[01:08] <stefg> So there is a reason why ubuntu is the mothership and kubuntu is a sub-project, not vice versa
[01:08] <ncd> easy does it :D
[01:09] <ducktape> digikam has some nice B/W features that are time-consuming in gimp (and impossible in F-spot)
[01:09] <ncd> stefg, you need the picture ive been searching for, for ages
[01:09] <ncd> the evoluntionary tree of all the distros
[01:09] <dtholden> can someone help me import mail from evolution to thunderbird?
[01:09] <ncd> in a flow chart/bubble type afair
[01:10] <CraiZE> hello all
[01:10] <Latty> Tom47: Mind that you will end up with both KDE and Gnome apps in both environments, which can be annoying and cluttered.
[01:10] <jos> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=04/09/10/1446217
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[01:10] <jos> google
[01:10] <Tom47> Laty true but just doing kde alone wont cut it either
[01:11] <dtholden> thanks jos
[01:11] <eternaljoy> how can I install TLC modules for AMSN?
[01:11] <stefg> dtholden: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-export-your-mails-from-evolution-to-thunderbird.html
[01:11] <eternaljoy> !tlc
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tlc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <eternaljoy> !TLS
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <eternaljoy> how can I install TLS modules for AMSN?
[01:11] <ducktape> for a normal user: is their a difference between xubuntu and ubuntu (apart from gnome vs xfce)
[01:11] <CraiZE> I just installed ubuntu server 7.04 on an old amd-k6 install was ok but after reboot it never starts !!! the memtest tool works but no way to boot it is rebooting
[01:12] <dtholden> yeah the reason behind me wanting emails  now in thunderbirds is cause i need to import it all into a win xp system
[01:12] <Lattyware> >.<
[01:12] <Tom47> ducktape i think so ... xubuntu has a distace to go imvho
[01:12] <Cas13y> Installing pidgin 2.0 doesn't work
[01:12] <Cas13y> i tried this: sudo aptitude install build-essential libglib2.0-dev
[01:12] <Cas13y> sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[01:12] <Cas13y> cd pidgin*
[01:12] <Cas13y> ./configure
[01:12] <Cas13y> make
[01:12] <Cas13y> sudo make install
[01:12] <eternaljoy> what is TLS module ?
[01:13] <Neil-> !paste > Cas13y
[01:13] <eternaljoy> !TLS module
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tls module - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <Huffameg> neither Totem or gxine will work.. what to do?
[01:13] <Neil-> Cas13y: what goes wrong
[01:13] <Neil-> worked for me
[01:13] <ncd> rofl http://photos9.flickr.com/13809894_5d4169ae08.jpg
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[01:13] <jos> ore streamturner
[01:14] <Tom47> Huffameg i swear by vlc
[01:14] <stefg> Huffameg: are they sitting on the couch and refuse to raise when you tell them to, or waht?
[01:14] <Cas13y> first part works, then it asks me "Do you want to go on" (J/n) (Yes/no) - I do yes, and it says "Stopping.."
[01:14] <jos> Cas13y yest enter
[01:14] <Lattyware> Cas13y: Caps sensitive?
[01:15] <ncd> hm
[01:15] <ncd> found this: http://www.zwahlendesign.ch/images/screenshot/unix_desktop_linux_1600x1200.jpg
[01:15] <ncd> very interesting
[01:15] <ncd> but not for dists but the kernels them self
[01:15] <stefg> Cas13y: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-pidgin-instant-messanger-in-ubuntu.html
[01:16] <jos> wen xchaT will have soubd ore video
[01:16] <Cas13y> (thanks
[01:16] <jos> sound
[01:17] <soho> totem playes no ac3 sound in videos, i use it with gstreamer, how can i solve this problem?
[01:17] <CraiZE> has some one an aswer ??? the machine worked with a debian and no more under ubuntu server ???
[01:17] <Huffameg> stefg, well.. the thing is that none of the players i've tried (totem, ogle, gxine) seems to able to play my dvds.. ogle just disappears, gxine cannot locate anything and totem tells me that it does not exist a plugin to handle my dvd.. the strange thing is that, when having totem installed, when i put in a dvd it will just start directly but without the menus and subtitles.. as soon as i press "play disc" to restart it, it just stops..
[01:18] <afief> when installing a new kernel, does make modules_install replace anything on my current system?
[01:18] <Damian> Powie mi ktos jak zrobic by po waczeniu systemu kadu i skpe sie samo uruchamiao??
[01:18] <jos> http://www.afreecodec.com/linux/3/ac3-audio-filter-codec/
[01:18] <gerhard> hey i have an usb hd drive
[01:18] <gerhard> it is just new
[01:18] <gerhard> so its unformatted
[01:18] <dxdemetriou> can I make the /dev/dsp to can be used with dmix?
[01:18] <gerhard> but when i connect it to the pc it is not recognized i think
[01:18] <jos> totem playes no ac3 sound in videos in google
[01:18] <gerhard> i get no message about it
[01:18] <afief> gerhard, please write full thoughts per line
[01:19] <jos> AC3 Audio Filter (codec)
[01:19] <stefg> Huffameg: have you installed libdvdcss ? You know, the little thingy that handles the DeCSS stuff, which will allow you to watch DVDs in Linux,
[01:19] <nowimproved> my clock says 7:18 pm
[01:19] <nowimproved> and it is 718 am here
[01:19] <nowimproved> any ideas?
[01:19] <gerhard> hey i have an usb hd drive, it is just new so unformatted, it is not recognized by the pc as i get no message about it. now my question is what can i do?
[01:19] <jos> wy thy doint use google
[01:19] <afief> gerhard, so you want to format/partition it?
[01:20] <gerhard> yes aftief
[01:20] <gerhard> but to do so i must first have it recognized dont i
[01:20] <Huffameg> stefg, yes I think so.. but it will play - as long as I do not tell it to do so..
[01:20] <MoLE_> nowimproved, right-click on the time in the menubar and select adjust date and time
[01:20] <afief> gerhard, how do you know it is not recognized? it could be recognized but not mounted
[01:20] <stefg> Huffameg: try vlc ... totem sucks anyway IMHO
[01:21] <jos> gerhard> install gnome partionbewerker
[01:21] <gerhard> afief, see my camera is recognized at once. // that may be, but as what can it be there so that i can mount it
[01:21] <afief> gerhard, try to use gparted(should be in the repositories), it will give you all the options you need to format/partition the disk
[01:21] <Wagner-> stefg totem seems to be working well for me, what's wrong with it?
[01:21] <Jowi> gerhard, run gparted. in the top right corner you will see a drop down box with the devices/disks. see if it is visible there.
[01:21] <gerhard> jos, i have that tool i think
[01:21] <Tom47> gerhard open gparted and see if it has seen it (use dropdownboxes)
[01:21] <jos> us it
[01:21] <gerhard> Jowi, ok i will do
[01:21] <Huffameg> stefg, ok i'll try..
[01:21] <mjr> cameras don't necessarily show up as USB hard drives
[01:21] <afief> gerhard, you can't mount unless there is a formatted partition
[01:22] <nowimproved> MoLE_, i cant it is fluxbox
[01:22] <jos> its fat 32
[01:22] <gerhard> afief ohh yes there it is! /dev/sda :D
[01:22] <stefg> Wagner-: a question of expectations and point of view. So have fun with totem if it works for you
[01:22] <jos> yes fat32 ?
[01:22] <gerhard> thank you very much Tom47, jos, Jowi, afief
[01:22] <dxdemetriou> the /dev/dsp why can't be used with more than one programs?
[01:22] <Wagner-> stefg i'm familiar with vlc, very familiar, what is the advantage of it, ovr totem?
[01:22] <jos> oke  kiss
[01:22] <pyrohotdog> My volume keys on my keyboard bring up the volume thing onscreen and move the bar, but it doesn't actually effect the volume...
[01:22] <afief> gerhard, so it's recognized:D now you have the choice between command line partitioning or GUI(I prefer gparted myself)
[01:23] <gerhard> afief, im formatting it msdos table ext3
[01:24] <jos> wen 3d wil bu dun in vmware?
[01:24] <afief> Wagner-, that vlc doesn't need external codecs and stuff it is mostly self contained
[01:24] <MoLE_> nowimproved, you might want to look at the man page for the 'date' command. ie: $ man date
[01:24] <Wagner-> afief can you give me an example of a codec where vlc has one which isn't 'external'? like for waht?
[01:25] <jos> endt wy is goom break down after is run berlymanger
[01:25] <Wagner-> afief which format, in particular, does vlc have a non-external codec where totem requires or uses and external one?
[01:25] <knoeki> jos: spreek je nederlands?
[01:25] <afief> Wagner-, for example VLC doesn't need liblame(or was it libmp3?) to play mp3 files. it has this stuff built in
[01:25] <stefg> Wagner-: i'm not going into a media-player war... streaming-server, dvb-watching, proper DVD-menu handling. Just to name a few. totem is dumbed down on purpose to not confuse the novice and thats fine, but I#m no novice
[01:25] <jos> ja pap
[01:25] <jos> knoekie
[01:26] <knoeki> jos: vraag maar in het nederlands, ik vertaal wel.
[01:26] <yagami_> Hello, can anyone please tell me what I need to install in order for opera to use shared qt libs?
[01:26] <Wagner-> stefg i wish you wouldn't make blind statments and then not be able to give details, i'm not in any war, i'm new to ubuntu, and exploring the comparison of totem and vlc
[01:26] <gerhard> afief, will it be automounted like the other partiitons and appearing on my desktop?
[01:26] <jos> als ik me berly draai dan gaat me goom vastlopen
[01:26] <afief> Wagner-, xvid, dvix, h.264, ac3... there are more but those are the ones i use
[01:26] <yagami_> is it kde-base? i really don't want to install kde altogether- only the stuff needed to make opera use qtlibs.
[01:26] <Wagner-> stefg i used vlc and many other players extensively under windows
[01:26] <harpi>  hello, i have a network problem. i have two computers one is ubuntu 6.06, it has Internet using wireless-cart (ath0). it also has a network-cart (eth0)169.254.95.243. i use a crossover-cable to the next computer with is a debian box, networkcart (eth1) 169.254.153.219. i can ping from 1th to 2th box but on debian is no Internet. what must i do to make it work on?
[01:26] <MoLE_> stefg, I have mplayer, gxine and vlc installed - I have yet to find a DVD that one of them can't handle.
[01:27] <afief> gerhard, probably not... you'll have to add it to your fstab file(here is something to automate for the devs)
[01:27] <knoeki> okay... Jos here asks why his goom crashes when running beryl..
[01:27] <jos> no its lpug endt play in urbuntu
[01:27] <gerhard> afief, can you tell me about how to do so?
[01:27] <Wagner-> afief xvid is an open codec whatever program uses it, and so on-- your answer doesn't help me, i'm afraid
[01:27] <stefg> Wagner-: what's your problem? if you want the feature set listing see the home page of the project.  I#m not here to give lectures about mediaplayers  /topic closed
[01:27] <afief> Wagner-, open, but patent encumbered
[01:28] <Wagner-> stefg you made a statement, to guide people, i'm wanting guidance, but you don't have any backing for your statement when i ask
[01:28] <jos> knoeki>dank zal wel luxe probleem zijn
[01:28] <afief> Wagner-, the real advantage is only that you don't need to install the rest of the stuff i think(reads: easier)
[01:28] <albert> i need to watch a video with this audio codec: Audio: Windows Media Audio 96000Hz stereo 128Kbps [Raw Audio 0]  / my current (up to date) system doesn't play it. any suggestions?
[01:28] <jos> net als ik in vmware in vista 3d wil laten draaien is nog niet mogelijk
[01:28] <stefg> Wagner... just scroll bacvk and stop trolloing
[01:28] <Huffameg> stefg, there's no picture and the sound is jumping..
[01:29] <Wagner-> afief maybe i'm missing something, can you give me a url for the non-patent encumbered codec vlc uses to play xvid files?
[01:29] <afief> gerhard, I might not be the right one to do so, I have little experience with fstab, but you should be able to easily figure it out from the already mounted stuff
[01:29] <jos> bedankt mot weg doei
[01:29] <yagami_> albert: try vlc- it'll play for sure
[01:29] <knoeki> jos: heh. tja...
[01:29] <knoeki> doei ^^
[01:29] <gerhard> afief, alright thank you
[01:29] <stefg> Huffameg: is MDA enabled for your DVD-drive?
[01:29] <albert> yagami_, no, it doesn't play it, i tried :(
[01:29] <stefg> DMA that is
[01:29] <Huffameg> dma?
[01:29] <yagami_> albert: how about mplayer?
[01:29] <albert> yagami_, i'll try
[01:29] <harpi> hello, i have a network problem. i have two computers one is ubuntu 6.06, it has internet using wirelesscart (ath0). it also has a networkcart (eth0)169.254.95.243. i use a crossovercable to the next computer with is a debian boxne, networkcart (eth1) 169.254.153.219. i can ping from 1th to 2th box but on debian is no internet. what must i do to make it work on?
[01:30] <yagami_> if it doesnt, then i don't know what will work :)
[01:30] <afief> Wagner-, xvid itself(the idea) is patent encumbered, VLC's advantage(as i said) is that it has it bundled with the program, no separate install, no complaining about "missing codecs"
[01:30] <Wagner->  stefg i'm new here, please do not accuse me of trolling when im' not; please be able to explain statements you make, when you make them
[01:30] <Tom47> gerhard when its formatted it should automount ... if it doesn't pls ask again
[01:30] <albert> yagami_, no sound either
[01:30] <gerhard> Tom47, it does not, may i have to reboot?
[01:30] <yagami_> Wagner-: since you're new, i have to tell, no one's obliged to do anything here.
[01:30] <ncd> hrmm
[01:31] <ncd> how do you change the boot splash?
[01:31] <Tom47> gerhard no
[01:31] <Wagner-> yagami the rules of conduct obliege people here, according to the ubuntu site
[01:31] <magnetron> !attitude
[01:31] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:31] <harpi> do i have to set something in iptables?
[01:31] <albert> yagami_, should i paste the mplayer output?
[01:31] <hypn0> !realplayer
[01:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:31] <afief> Wagner-, please show me those "rules of conduct"
[01:31] <tomppa> which  xserver-xorg-video-ati version should 7.04 have?
[01:31] <Jowi> !conduct
[01:31] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:31] <gerhard> Tom47, it is not real important, i was going to put the imprtant stuff to it and format then to get the new edgy version because my actual version is so wrecked
[01:31] <afief> Wagner-, did you get the answer to your question?
[01:32] <Wagner-> afief well, hopefully i will learn more about this issue of the codecs, if i do i'll get back to you
[01:32] <eternaljoy> what is TLS module ?
[01:32] <Huffameg> stefg, do i need anything other than a player and the libdvdread3?
[01:32] <yagami_> albert: yes you should- although, i wouldnt know much to make of it. does it play on the windows platform? have you checked?
[01:32] <pyrohotdog> Why is my System-->Administration-->Shared Folders telling me "You are not allowed to access the system configuration"?
[01:32] <pyrohotdog> I authenticated.
[01:32] <ncd> how do you change the boot splash?
[01:32] <harpi> or ??
[01:32] <stefg> Huffameg: yes. you need libdvdcss2
[01:32] <afief> Wagner-, I don't think there is really much to learn... it's a simple built in VS needs external library thing in this case
[01:32] <Wagner-> afief well, you raised some questions to guide my search, thanks
[01:32] <tomppa> I have  xserver-xorg-video-ati  6.6.3-2ubuntu6  and it doesn't seem to work...
[01:32] <albert> yagami_, well, i could try, even though i'd prefer to play it in ubuntu
[01:32] <harpi> no network guru's here?
[01:33] <stefg> Huffameg: and because this hacks the CSS protection it's not in official repos
[01:33] <albert> yagami_, ah, well, i'll boot windows, thx ;)
[01:33] <gerhard> Tom47, i am also only as root able to write to it
[01:33] <yagami_> if it does, then you better post the problem at some place like doom9- better at audio/video encoding and playing trouble-shooting than most people here. albert- you should definitely get it to work in ubuntu too...all i am saying is, if it works in wind0ws it should in linux as well
[01:33] <Huffameg> stefg, okay.. where do i find it then..
[01:33] <Huffameg> ?
[01:33] <piglit> when i dont want Ubuntu to install Grub when i install 7.04 how can i do that? The thing is i want to install 7.04 on /dev/sdb and leave /dev/sda (with ubuntu 6.06 on it) as it is
[01:34] <magnetron> Huffameg: it's not in the repos because it is illegal to use for the most americans an europeans
[01:34] <stefg> Huffameg: read the !DVD factoid again (which was the first thing i gave you :-) )
[01:34] <harpi> is there no way to let my ubuntu talk to debian computer
[01:34] <albert> yagami_, should be...
[01:34] <yagami_> most prolly- hey, show that log at #amarok too- the mplayer log. make sure you try to play the file using amarok. and then report th issue to them
[01:34] <harpi> ?
[01:34] <annimar> Does anyone know who is responsible for the jokosher package?
[01:34] <stefg> !dvd | Huffameg
[01:34] <ubotu> Huffameg: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:34] <Tom47> gerhard did you remove all partitions before adding anything?
[01:34] <afief> harpi: talk as in share files? I use samba to let computers talk(there is a windows box in the mix)
[01:35] <yagami_> harpi: psst...i'd suggest that you ask the same question at #gentoo.
[01:35] <harpi> i have a network problem. i have two computers one is ubuntu 6.06, it has internet using wirelesscart (ath0). it also has a networkcart (eth0)169.254.95.243. i use a crossovercable to the next computer with is a debian boxne, networkcart (eth1) 169.254.153.219. i can ping from 1th to 2th box but on debian is no internet. what must i do to make it work on?
[01:35] <gerhard> Tom47 ??? of course not
[01:35] <Huffameg> stefg, yes.. it doesn't mention anything other than libdvdread3
[01:35] <magnetron> annimar: Jono Bacon is the main developer of Jokosher
[01:35] <Huffameg> stefg, ahaa
[01:35] <gerhard> Tom47, of coure not???
[01:35] <annimar> magnetorn: thanks!
[01:35] <trumpeter2003> harpi: http://www.articles4ever.com/communications/broadband-internet/internet-sharing-using-a-linux-box-5841.htm
[01:35] <stefg> Huffameg: pleeeeaaassseee...
[01:35] <yagami_> and don't repeat- you never got an answer in the first place cause no one here knows how to go about it.
[01:35] <ncd> BK
[01:35] <tomppa> It seems that I can't upgrade my 6.10 box since the fglrx won't work anymore and the oss driver causes random hangs :(
[01:35] <afief> harpi, I guess you need to make one of them(the ubuntu box?) your gateway
[01:35] <Wagner-> magnetron while you mention that, this occurred to me: if i am dual booting xp and ubuntu from the same disk, these codecs that are illegal in the US, are already legally licensed to my on this HD via the XP, so, don't i have a liscence for them right now which would extend to ubuntu boot, if you see my thinking? the codecs are already licensed to me on this HD
[01:36] <ncd> Heh apt-get isnt a subsitute for running and configuring you system
[01:36] <afief> harpi, install firestarted, it has an easy interface to let you do just that
[01:36] <ncd> so where does "usplash" get its BOOT image from HEH?
[01:36] <afief> harpi, sorry, firestarter
[01:36] <harpi> oki i'll give it a shot, thanks
[01:36] <yagami_> afief: is it necessary to install a firewall?
[01:36] <stefg> !usplash | ncd
[01:36] <ubotu> ncd: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[01:36] <harpi> hmm
[01:37] <ncd> argh so its in a lib?
[01:37] <afief> yagami_, I am no expert, but firestarter to the best of my knowledge is only a nice way to configure the built in firewall that's in your kernel
[01:37] <stefg> ncd: it's in the initramfs
[01:37] <coolgeek> is there a command similar to cd // that takes you back to the /home/usr/ dir?
[01:37] <Jowi> ncd, the usplash is not only an graphical image.
[01:37] <magnetron> Wagner-: don't ask me for legal advice. btw, you don't have a license for DVD playback, it's the maker of the player that (possibly) has a license
[01:38] <yagami_> afief: no, no- i was asking only cause i didnt know. thanks.
[01:38] <mojojojo_> If I try to connect to other network the X-chat hangs... What's the matter?
[01:38] <afief> yagami_, no problem:) I don't know either
[01:38] <coolgeek> any one?
[01:38] <coolgeek> nice and simple one !!
[01:38] <yagami_> mojojojo_: xchat sucks. use irssi :)
[01:38] <coolgeek> is there a command similar to cd // that takes you back to the /home/usr/ dir?
[01:38] <afief> coolgeek, cd ~
[01:38] <gerhard> Tom47, afief i cannot mount the damn thing, i have written it to fstab but when i type sudo mount sda it wont be found in the fstab file nor in the mtab file
[01:39] <Jowi> coolgeek, simply type "cd"
[01:39] <mojojojo_> yagami_:  it's ok, for me :)
[01:39] <d2812> Huffameg : check your PM
[01:39] <mojojojo_> yagami_:  but precisely in what way it's worse than irssi?
[01:39] <afief> gerhard, can you post your fstab on a pastebin and give us a link?
[01:39] <gerhard> afief, sure
[01:39] <coolgeek> Jowi: nice
[01:39] <coolgeek> thanks
[01:39] <Tom47> gerhard tyr mount -a
[01:40] <gerhard> Tom47, afief http://nopaste.biz/15688
[01:40] <yagami_> mojojojo_: well for one thing it crashes a lot on ubuntu- especially in edgy- i don't know if its gotten any better since - something to do with the tray-icon really.
[01:40] <gerhard> Tom47 doesnt work either
[01:40] <dtholden> going from ubuntu back to win xp :(
[01:40] <Wagner-> magnetron i wasn't asking about DVD, but have read that they way VLC plays dvd's is legal, as opposed say to the hacked key used in dvd decrypter and similar programs
[01:40] <brussel> any reason why pg_ctl isn't in the path after installing postgres?
[01:40] <yagami_> i can reproduce the bug just by double-clicking on the xchat-try icon. don't know whats up with that-
[01:41] <magnetron> Wagner-: vlc and the others both use the DeCSS key
[01:41] <mojojojo_> yagami_:  hmm.. I haven't had this problem while using it on other distros... maybe this package is corrucpted
[01:41] <afief> gerhard, are you talking about the line that starts with "# /dev/sda"?
[01:41] <gerhard> afief yes
[01:42] <afief> gerhard, you need to remove the # from the begining of the line. it means that this line will be ignored
[01:42] <gerhard> afief, oh ok
[01:42] <yagami_> mojojojo_: not likely- no one else seems to be having those problems- and it'd be hard to trace the bug without putting up a well-documented bug-report. my descriptions are vague at best.
[01:42] <thug> what`s the name of that package that let me configure the whole box ? g-config or something ...
[01:43] <Wagner-> magnetron i quick google on 'vlc decss' will inform you that vlc does not use decss, if that helps you
[01:43] <brussel> any reason why pg_ctl isn't in the path after installing postgres? (If you reply make sure you use my name so I hear a beep and return.)
[01:43] <gerhard> Tom47, afief, still not found
[01:43] <yagami_> thug: gconftool?
[01:43] <afief> gerhard, are you able to mount it manually?
[01:43] <gerhard> afief, no
[01:43] <gerhard> afief, http://nopaste.biz/15689
[01:43] <thug> yagami_ E: Couldn't find package gconftool
[01:44] <yagami_> thug: type apt-get install gconf2
[01:44] <afief> gerhard, try sudo mount /dev/sda /media/sda
[01:44] <yagami_> you can do `apt-cache search packagename` to search for the name to use with apt-get install
[01:44] <stefg> gerhard: /dev/sda is the whole disk... you need a number behind it
[01:45] <thug> yagami_ its not what i want
[01:45] <gerhard> stefg, i understand // afief, it says i must specificate a file system
[01:45] <yagami_> its not? how do you mean `configure the whole box`?
[01:45] <afief> stefg, damn, I should have noticed that /me hits his head on the table
[01:45] <yagami_> thug: someone else might be able to help- explain a bit more.
[01:45] <afief> gerhard, yeah that's because it couldn't figure out because it's a whole disk, you need to address a partition
[01:46] <bullgard4> Is there a tutorial or summarizing artcle how Ubuntu treats the battery via ACPI in laptops?
[01:46] <gerhard> afief, stefg cannot find sda1 in fstab
[01:46] <stefg> gerhard: your fstab line is malformed. can you paste 'sudo  fdsik -l' to pastebin? (BTW #ubuntu-de allows us to talk german)
[01:46] <trumpeter2003> thug: You have to be a little more specific on the "config the whole box" if you want to get better help
[01:47] <thug> yagami_ gconf2 is already the newest version. but i cannot start it
[01:47] <stefg> sudo fdisk -l that is
[01:47] <afief> try to do it manually with the command i gave you(change sda to sda1 of course)
[01:47] <Tom47> gerhard my usb hard disk is recognised automgically
[01:47] <Tom47> gerhard i have it formatted as a fat32 partition for greatest flexibility
[01:47] <trumpeter2003> gerhard: If the link you provided above to nopaste.biz is your fstab, then you do not have an sda1 line in that file.
[01:47] <trumpeter2003> gerhard: You need to change `
[01:47] <gerhard> stefg, http://nopaste.biz/15690
[01:48] <trumpeter2003> /dev/sda /media/sda ext3 defaults 0 2` to /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ext3 defaults 0 2`
[01:48] <trumpeter2003> eek on the `
[01:48] <magnetron> bullgard4: you want longer battery time? try installing the powernowd package. if that doesn't help, just uninstall it
[01:48] <gerhard> trumpeter2003, did already change that
[01:48] <Wagner-> "VideoLAN Client uses the library libdvdcss, which is a simple library designed for accessing DVDs like a block device without having to bother with the decryption. VideoLAN Client does not use DeCSS'
[01:48] <stefg> gerhard: ok... so what drive do you want to moutn?
[01:48] <gerhard> trumpeter2003, http://nopaste.biz/15691
[01:48] <gerhard> stefg sda1
[01:48] <trumpeter2003> thug: gconf2 is a package, the command to start it is, gconftool-2
[01:49] <trumpeter2003> gerhard: Does the folder /media/sda1 exist?
[01:49] <gerhard> yes
[01:49] <cox377> does anyone here know what smoothwall is?
[01:49] <thug> trumpeter2003 even gconftool-2 doesnt start the program
[01:49] <stefg> gerhard: so let's first try it manually . sudo mount -t ntfs  /dev/sda1 /mnt ... that will mount it readonly
[01:49] <bullgard4> magnetron: I would rather like to get a thorough understanding about the software providing a longer battery life in an Ubuntu laptop computer.
[01:49] <afief> cox377, a firewall distribution
[01:50] <trumpeter2003> thug: Because gconftool-2 is not a GUI application, it is a command line application
[01:50] <rics> Hello
[01:50] <trumpeter2003> gerhard: Do you get an error while mounting the drive?
[01:50] <magnetron> how do i enable midi playback support? i have the /dev/sequencer device and think that my card supports midi fairly well
[01:50] <ncd> man
[01:50] <gerhard> stefg, i will go to #ubutntude ok
[01:50] <rics> Can't I uninstall Gaim?
[01:50] <cox377> afief: basially, i was wondering if thee is a similar web config screen that i can put onto my ubuntu server to have a usb modem.
[01:50] <magnetron> rics: yes
[01:50] <afief> rics: you can
[01:50] <ncd> im not a fucking zen master or anything
[01:50] <thug> trumpeter2003 then its not what i was after ... i think the package its " gconf " which is gui am i right ?
[01:50] <LjL> !language
[01:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:50] <ncd> but the boot screen needs to be allot easyer to change
[01:50] <ncd> and ive been dablling with linux for some years
[01:50] <rics> When I mark the package to a complete uninstal Ubuntu tell me that will uninstall gnome-desktop too!
[01:50] <magnetron> !enter | ncd
[01:51] <ubotu> ncd: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:51] <ncd> that is OVER THE TOP ;)
[01:51] <afief> cox377, I never really tried it, but i think there was an episode of hak.5 that showed it's web interface. you might wanna look it up at hak5.org
[01:51] <rics> wierd
[01:51] <defcon> i need a flash player for firefox in ubuntu
[01:51] <defcon> anyone know how?
[01:51] <jrib> !flash > defcon (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:51] <defcon> thnx
[01:51] <afief> defcon, should install automatically when you visit a flash website
[01:51] <trumpeter2003> thug: I'm not sure what "config the whole system" is. If you could explain that a little more, then I might be able to give you a package name matching what you are asking for
[01:51] <LjL> rics, it's not weird (though isn't that ubuntu-desktop that it removes?)
[01:51] <ncd> I just want to change the picture .. not build a lfs from scratch
[01:51] <trumpeter2003> gerhard: Do you get an error while mounting the drive?
[01:51] <Slart> O
[01:52] <gerhard> trumpeter2003, yes http://nopaste.biz/15692
[01:52] <LjL> rics: ubuntu-desktop, or for that matter gnome-desktop, are metapackages: empty packages that just bring in a lot of dependencies when you install them. so if you remove a program that's a dependency of ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop gets uninstalled too
[01:52] <trumpeter2003> gerhard: translate in one line here
[01:52] <cox377> afief: cheers i shall take a look
[01:52] <thug> trumpeter2003 Gconf graphic interface to the Gnome configuration system  i installed Gconf but i cannot start  it
[01:52] <ncd> prehaps drop usplash.. or have it optional
[01:52] <gerhard> file system type not recognized
[01:52] <gerhard> or false
[01:53] <afief> cox377, I think it was in the second season, just search through the episode guide and watch it on youtube
[01:53] <ncd> when i built my lfs i had grub itself compiled to do a boot splash lightweight and minimal and easy to run
[01:53] <LjL> ncd: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and put "nosplash" instead of "splash"
[01:53] <LjL> !pm | rics
[01:53] <ubotu> rics: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[01:53] <trumpeter2003> thug: sort of like a gnome theme config menu?
[01:53] <LjL> rics: no, you just need to be careful when upgrading to a newer Ubuntu version
[01:53] <LjL> rics: although if you use update-manager, that shouldn't be a concern either
[01:53] <ncd> no fancy animation
[01:53] <trumpeter2003> gerhard: Was the error generated from just: mount /dev/sda1 ?
[01:54] <thug> trumpeter2003 tha package itself its called " gconf " like this picture here shows http://developer.novell.com/wiki/images/thumb/c/c6/Screenshot-Configuration_Editor.png/320px-Screenshot-Configuration_Editor.png
[01:54] <Kubuntu> hello
[01:54] <paw1234> yo
[01:54] <gerhard> no wait plz
[01:54] <LjL> ncd: isn't the GRUB splash only visible *before* the kernel is booted?
[01:54] <paw1234> wazzup guys?
[01:54] <Kubuntu> LJL How do I use gutenprint??
[01:54] <paw1234> i've got one question
[01:55] <thug> trumpeter2003 Configuration editor ... how do i get it with apt ?
[01:55] <rics> LjL: ok... =) I want to try pidgim now...
[01:55] <LjL> Kubuntu, it's used when you select "Print" from a program.
[01:55] <rics> will try. Thank LjL for your help!
[01:55] <ncd> there is something else you can do with the framebuffer gettys
[01:55] <Kubuntu> LJL ok
[01:55] <paw1234> ye know where can i download .deb package for gimpshop for ubuntu
[01:55] <Kubuntu> LjL it wont break my computer?
[01:55] <ncd> and have that perm have a splash
[01:55] <LjL> Kubuntu: stop being an ass
[01:55] <cox377> afief: basically i personnally run smoothwall, but i've built a small LAMP webserver for inhouse for a friend but he uses some ***** router. I know how strong smoothwall seems to be and i thought maybe i could stick something on the LAMP to act as a router as well
[01:55] <Tom47> paw1234 i think you have to do that fom their site
[01:55] <afief> paw1234, from what I saw(tried gimpshop on windows) there is close to no difference at all
[01:56] <LjL> ncd: well, i've never investigated that sort of things, but at any rate if you put "nosplash" in your kernel parameters, you should be free from usplash and be able to put whatever else you want instead
[01:56] <paw1234> maybe, but i've worked for 2 years on photoshop
[01:56] <afief> cox377, errr... you shouldn't do that... a router should be a seperate PC
[01:56] <paw1234> hard to jump on gimp atm ;] 
[01:56] <cox377> afief: i think your right ; )
[01:56] <finalbeta> paw1234: that's what people say about windows 2. get over it ;)
[01:57] <ncd> yeeah tnx for pointing that validness out..
[01:57] <Tom47> finalbeta not nice
[01:57] <trumpeter2003> thug: If you have installed gconf, then you should be able to issue the command gconf-editor and get what you are looking for
[01:57] <paw1234> : P
[01:57] <harpi> how do in know if my system is using iptables or ipchains??
[01:57] <afief> cox377, well, you basically *could* do it, but then if apache(or any other thing) has a vulnurability your whole LAN is affected
[01:57] <paw1234> yeah now for 3 months i'm on ubuntu
[01:57] <paw1234> and i enjoy using it : d
[01:57] <LjL> harpi: ipchains was deprecated in the past millennium :)
[01:58] <ncd> lol
[01:58] <harpi> haha oke
[01:58] <trumpeter2003> gerhard: Because if it was, then you are using the wrong file system in your /etc/fstab for the drive. I know I'm asking questions that you probably have already answered, but what is the file system on the drive?
[01:58] <roey_> hii somebody can help me
[01:58] <thug> trumpeter2003 yeah thats what i wanted ... thanks
[01:58] <gerhard> trumpeter2003,  ext3 but it is suddenly recognized now
[01:58] <gerhard> thanks anyway
[01:59] <Tom47> paw1234: there are instruction on this at http://delirial.com/archives/howto-gimpshop-on-ubuntu/
[01:59] <ethereality> um, crap. i'm trying https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-c7979448ab81077f16349d3ca4be7aa5a5a52de2, but I have no clue what my X server driver is. What should I do?
[01:59] <paw1234> thank ye
[01:59] <logixoul> how do I enable vesa in grub?
[02:00] <roey_> i need to install client vpn of fortinet somebody can help me
[02:00] <hypn0> should the http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu repo be used to installed realplayer for feisty
[02:00] <Kubuntu> I got problems playing Counter-Strike:Source, it freezes when it comes to retriveing server info. What should I do??
[02:01] <logixoul> Kubuntu: are you using Cedega?
[02:01] <Kubuntu> No
[02:01] <Kubuntu> I'm using wine.
[02:01] <logixoul> ok
[02:01] <trumpeter2003> hypn0: You should look at Medibuntu for non-native media formats
[02:01] <Kubuntu> Is Cedga better?
[02:01] <logixoul> yes
[02:01] <logixoul> but it's paid
[02:01] <Kubuntu> ok
[02:01] <hypn0> okay trumpeter2003
[02:01] <Kubuntu> have you used it?
[02:02] <logixoul> no
[02:02] <Kubuntu> Used wine?
[02:02] <rem_> Hey all ... connexion ok, but get this when apt-get: Cannot initiate the connection to ch.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e5). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e5 80] 
[02:02] <rem_> anyone ?
[02:02] <LjL> rem_: uhm, it seems to be using IPv6 addresses...?
[02:02] <ncd> i was curious, for us unlucky guys that dont have pixel shader program 100 ability eg: GL_ARB .. will some nut code a kernel level "char" emulation.. considering in the example of my laptop and my pals .. we are not short of a cpu cycle and memory levels of 1GB and 2GB should make its at least plausible
[02:02] <LjL> rem_, never seen that, but you could try disabling IPv6
[02:02] <LjL> !ipv6 > rem_    (rem_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:03] <rem_> thats what I thought too ... what can I do about it ? force ipv4 ? if yes how .. ?
[02:03] <afief> rem_, try to use the US archive, some of the local archives don't work right
[02:03] <rem_> k ty
[02:03] <VSpike> !ipv6 > vspike
[02:03] <rem_> af I just did from other pc no problem ..
[02:03] <logixoul> Kubuntu: a little
[02:04] <LjL> rem_: follow the instructions from ubotu, to force ipv4
[02:04] <logixoul> how do I enable vesa in grub?
[02:04] <Sergo> !avi > Sergo
[02:05] <rem_> k ty Ljl ..ill try that ...I think I had this b4 but seems like thats what I did last time...but dont remember .. :P
[02:05] <mskadu> hi everyone
[02:05] <knoeki> helloes.
[02:05] <mskadu> is it just me or is ubuntustudio.org down today?
[02:05] <mskadu> knoeki: hiya
[02:06] <mskadu> the unusual bit is that its mirrors seem to be down as well???
[02:06] <knoeki> mskadu: I can't access it either.
[02:06] <knoeki> just checked.
[02:06] <Slart> same here
[02:06] <SanketMedhi> hello
[02:06] <Slart> 403 Forbidden
[02:06] <mskadu> knoeki: i wonder whats up with the mirrors too?
[02:06] <mskadu> Slart: yes, same here
[02:06] <knoeki> mskadu: no idea, I never heard of the site..
[02:07] <mskadu> I was starting to suspect if my ISP had banned it or something ..lol
[02:07] <VSpike> I'm curious - I still have "hda" drive in 7.04.  I thought all PATA drives were going to become "sdX" drives?
[02:07] <knoeki> I just installed ubuntu yesterday =D
[02:07] <mskadu> knoeki: good for u
[02:07] <afief> VSpike, the transition is still not complete IIRC
[02:08] <roey_> i need install fortinet vpn but i have some problem
[02:08] <mskadu> !ubuntu studio
[02:08] <ubotu> ubuntustudio is a site is for the musician who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation, at  http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit  #ubuntu-studio
[02:08] <roey_> somebody can help
[02:08] <sc0tch> Is there a command (or from fdisk) that I can view the partition UUID's? I havea dual boot system (two ubuntu installs) and the UUID has changed since an install and no longer correct in /etc/fstab. I need to find out what it changed to.
[02:08] <VSpike> afief: ah ok thanks.  All seems to work, but was just wondering
[02:08] <delfick> hello, hopefully a small question, does anyone know a c function that converts a double to a string ??
[02:08] <void^_> sc0tch: blkid
[02:09] <afief> delfick, try asking at ##C
[02:09] <delfick> k then, thnx
[02:09] <Slart> delfick: there's bound to be something... isn't there some version of printf that doesn't print.. just converts?
[02:09] <delfick> /leave
[02:09] <sc0tch> Thanks void^_ that was simple!
[02:09] <void^_> Slart: sprintf
[02:09] <Slart> delfick: sprintf indeed.. as void said..
[02:09] <SanketMedhi> I am using Ubuntu Feisty on my AMD64, and I am facing problems connecting any kind of USB device, please view  http://pastebin.ca/484763
[02:10] <delfick> cool
[02:10] <VSpike> delfick: dtostrf
[02:10] <logixoul> How do I enable VESA in GRUB?
[02:10] <ncd> http://www.ubuntustudio.com/
[02:10] <delfick> i need to learn the command thingo for leaving a irc chat, /leave didn't seem to work :P.......
[02:10] <ethereality> I have no clue what my X server driver is. How do you know?
[02:10] <Slart> delfick: /part works better I think
[02:10] <delfick> Vspike : what livrary is dtostrf in ??
[02:10] <delfick> *library
[02:10] <logixoul> ncd: what? 	Site Temporarily Unavailable	
[02:10] <delfick> slart: /part ??
[02:10] <Tom47> delfick /quit
[02:11] <afief> logixoul, isn't vesa something inside X? how can it start before the kernel?
[02:11] <delfick> k then, thnx tom
[02:11] <delfick> :D
[02:11] <ncd> ubuntustudio one
[02:11] <Slart> delfick: to leave a channel... /part my cool parting message
[02:11] <ncd> yeah
[02:11] <ncd> er i meant to paste the error
[02:11] <mskadu> ncd: thats down too
[02:11] <ncd> not the url
[02:11] <EvilGrin|Bed> logixoul, you mean you want a framebuffer console?
[02:11] <logixoul> afief: my video mode after booting is okay. the question is, how do I make the GRUB splash (where you select what to boot) use it too?
[02:11] <stefg> ubuntustudio released yesterday, they are probably DDOS'd by overwhelming success :-)
[02:11] <ncd> ;)
[02:12] <delfick> hmm, /part doesn't want to work
[02:12] <delfick> ....
[02:12] <SanketMedhi> Hello, someone help me with this USB problem ... http://pastebin.ca/484763
[02:12] <delfick> oh well, cya
[02:12] <logixoul> EvilGrin: no, see my response to afief
[02:12] <ethereality> What's ubuntustudio?
[02:12] <Huffameg> how to get higher resolution?
[02:12] <afief> logixoul, I remember there was some package you need to install to do that(you mean something similar to what fedora does, right?)
[02:12] <mskadu> !ubuntu studio > ethereality
[02:12] <erUSUL> !fixres | Huffameg
[02:12] <ubotu> Huffameg: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:12] <logixoul> afief: yep. thanks, I'll look it up.
[02:13] <raphae1> hi
[02:13] <EvilGrin> logixoul, add 'vga=791' to your boot command line in grub.
[02:13] <raphae1> kann mir bitte wer helfen?
[02:13] <mskadu> raphae1: enu please ;)
[02:13] <mcp> raphae1: wrong lang
[02:13] <raphae1> sorry
[02:13] <void^_> !de | raphae1
[02:13] <ubotu> raphae1: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:13] <stefg> !de
[02:14] <ethereality> oh, badass, thanks, msk.
[02:14] <mskadu> !de ? mskadu
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about de ? mskadu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <afief> raphae1, wenn du deutch redest bitte #ubuntu-de
[02:14] <Tom47> huffameg are you saying that System>Preferences>Screen Resolution is not working for you
[02:14] <mskadu> !de > mskadu
[02:14] <raphae1> i speak english too ;-)
[02:14] <ethereality> while we're on the topic of screen res, how do you know what your X server driver is?
[02:14] <logixoul> EvilGrin: my mode would be 795, but where exactly do I add it? in end of the line which begins with 	kernel	?
[02:14] <mskadu> raphae1: zehr gut!
[02:14] <lethu> hello, am trying to compile Black Shades but get stuck at this message : "/path/GameInitDispose.cpp:105: undefined reference to `alutInit'"
[02:14] <ethereality> (or should be)
[02:14] <EvilGrin> logixoul, correct.
[02:15] <mcp> mskadu: sehr gut, not zehr gut ;-)
[02:15] <afief> raphae1, then we can help you. state ther nature of your ubuntu emergency
[02:15] <iturk_> hi there friends! depending of the x window server that i am using like kdm or gdm my wmaker changes the font size. Each is the file in both window managers where i can edit in order to choose the font size show in wmaker ?
[02:15] <ethereality> (I think it's sehr gute :P)
[02:15] <mskadu> mcp: I dont speak german .. i write it .. and badly as you can see
[02:15] <mcp> mskadu: :) np
[02:15] <mskadu> mcp: thanks anyway :D
[02:15] <logixoul> EvilGrin: I thought this will be used for the booted system, not for the GRUB menu itself. Am I wrong?
[02:15] <cox377> is there a command to turn the current DHCP settings into static settings?
[02:16] <afief> cox377, I think you could configure it in the network manager
[02:16] <raphae1> please help:
[02:16] <raphae1> if i have configured a dns-server and i log in in gui then localhost is not resolved to 127.0.0.1 and this causes that dbus throws a error and everything is very slowly
[02:16] <cox377> afief: unfortunatly it's on LAMP
[02:16] <mcp> raphae1: then add localhost to your dns server?! :)
[02:16] <afief> cox377, oh... then you need to ask someone else
[02:16] <logixoul> EvilGrin: anyway thanks, I'll try it...
[02:16] <raphae1> i'm a linux-n00b ;-P how do this?
[02:16] <mcp> raphae1: more precise: add a reverse entry for localhost
[02:17] <lethu> please can sb help ? am trying to compile Black Shades but get stuck at this message : /path/GameInitDispose.cpp:105: undefined reference to `alutInit'
[02:17] <raphae1> thx, how can i do this?
[02:17] <mskadu> raphae1: edit /etc/hosts
[02:17] <raphae1> yes
[02:17] <Andie> hi!i have vmware server vmnet2 host only but has no internet how ca i give it acces to internet with iptables?
[02:17] <mskadu> raphae1: sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[02:18] <mskadu> and add an entry to it
[02:18] <cox377> afief: lol kk cheers
[02:18] <raphae1> i found this with /etc/hosts in google
[02:18] <raphae1> edit /etc/hosts and write "127.0.0.1 localhost"
[02:18] <EvilGrin> logixoul, you can't control what resolution grub uses itself iIRC.
[02:18] <mskadu> raphae1: yep .. thats it
[02:18] <mskadu> add the entry to the file (it shoud have been there in the first place anyway)
[02:19] <ethereality> Do you know how to turn off the messages (I'm using gaim) when people enter and exit a room?
[02:19] <mskadu> ethereality: prefs?
[02:19] <roey_>    
[02:19] <raphae1> but i think the dns-servers are loaded befor /etc/hosts
[02:19] <theINC> Quick question: if I've got a MacBook with a Core 2 Duo 2.16GHz (not sure of the exact model number) and a PC with an E4300, am I better off with the 32-bit or 64-bit version of Ubuntu? I know both'll work.
[02:19] <mskadu> roey_: english please?
[02:19] <ethereality> I looked there twice; I'll check again.
[02:19] <logixoul> EvilGrin: well, http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/#0.4 says otherwise :)
[02:19] <mcp> raphae1: no, see /etc/nsswitch.conf. usually its files dns for hosts
[02:19] <afief> roey_, I do, but english is prefered, else join #israel
[02:20] <raphae1> k, thx
[02:20] <logixoul> EvilGrin: plus, my prev distro (openSUSE) did it out of the box
[02:20] <lethu> please can sb help ? am trying to compile Black Shades but get stuck at this message : /path/GameInitDispose.cpp:105: undefined reference to `alutInit'
[02:20] <ethereality> (Doesn't seem to be in preferences. Is that not a normal IRC function?)
[02:20] <pyrohotdog> ethereality: same question, except I'm using Bitchx...
[02:20] <theINC> Quick question: if I've got a MacBook with a Core 2 Duo 2.16GHz (not sure of the exact model number) and a PC with an E4300, am I better off with the 32-bit or 64-bit version of Ubuntu? I know both'll work.
[02:21] <EvilGrin> logixoul, ah yes of course. You just need a different splash image. :)
[02:21] <raphae1> and another problem: i'm running edgy on my notebook (asus a6va) and have keys to increase and decrease the volume, but they increase and decrease only the headphone volume and that's not very useful, do you know how to change this?
[02:21] <AlienLifeForm> I trying out unubutu using a wubi installation on my latop and would like to know if deragmenting the drive after it's "installation" will affect the folder adversely
[02:22] <pyrohotdog> How can I see if my ethernet card is running fullduplex, 100mb/s 10mb/s, etc?
[02:22] <void^_> theINC: depends on how much non-free software you need, basically. flash, wine and win32 codecs are a bit more painful on 64bit.
[02:22] <afief> theINC, if you do heavy number crunching(cinelerra, video encoding, simulations, 3d...etc) then 64 bit. if you're using it as a desktop and want it easy to use 32 bit
[02:22] <logixoul> EvilGrin: I tried a 16-bit 1280x1024 xpm.gz one but GRUB displays it as garbage. so there's more to it :(
[02:22] <mskadu> ethereality: well, it is .. dunno
[02:22] <rem_> anyone knows where I can download .deb packages for Ubuntu (not through apt-get ..)
[02:22] <rem_> ?
[02:22] <rem_> looking for gnome-schedule
[02:22] <ethereality> raphae1: i have pause and play, stop, forward, backtrack buttons for music players on my keyboard that don't work either.
[02:22] <rem_> 4 dapper
[02:22] <EvilGrin> logixoul, actually if you look here: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/#1.0
[02:22] <mskadu> ethereality:  have u looked under accounts where u added the irc details?
[02:23] <ethereality> (oh, but my volume buttons work fine)
[02:23] <afief> rem_, if it's not in the repository you're better off compiling it yourself
[02:23] <EvilGrin> logixoul, it seems your limited to one resolution + colour depth
[02:23] <rem_> ok ...
[02:23] <rem_> stupid q ...just realized ..
[02:23] <theINC> void^_: I'll be going for the 32-bit version then. KTHXBAI!
[02:24] <brk3> hi, just noticed in my update manager 7.04 is available, will clicking 'upgrade' upgrade my system pretty easily or will I have to go though the whole procedure(partitioning etc)
[02:24] <afief> rem_, don't worry, compiling is rather easy. you can ask questions here
[02:24] <rem_> k ty ... I meant about where to get the .debs ... from the repos ... :P
[02:24] <raphae1> ethereality: in "keyboard shortcuts" the buttons are defined for "volume up" and "volume down" so i have only to change the function, but where to do this?
[02:25] <Tom47> brk3 backup yr data and go for it .. worked well for me but your mileage may vary
[02:25] <IdleOne> rem_, packages.ubuntu.com
[02:25] <rem_> ty
[02:25] <IdleOne> your welcome
[02:25] <ethereality> raphae1: i don't know, sorrp.
[02:25] <ethereality> *sorry
[02:26] <logixoul> EvilGrin: nope, that's simply the only kind of splash 	explained by this tutorial	. The other one exists too, but, as you can see in the link I gave, the tutorial author isn't sure as to how/whether it works.
[02:26] <raphae1> k, does anybody know how to change that the volume up and volume down keys control pcm instead of headphone?
[02:26] <relix> hello
[02:26] <relix> is bluetooth standard in ubuntu? 'cause I can't find it :(
[02:27] <shameer> hiii
[02:27] <bosloh> ?
[02:27] <jrib> raphae1: tried right clicking on the volume icon and going to preferences?
[02:27] <logixoul> EvilGrin: but thanks anyway :)
[02:27] <mskadu> ethereality: did u try asking in #gaim .. about that IRC thing
[02:27] <afief> relix, i saw a bluetooth module in my lsmod today, so i guess it's there. but you need the utilities to use it
[02:27] <afief> shameer, hi
[02:27] <raphae1> jrib: yes, doesn't work
[02:27] <bosloh> /server nexgo.dal.net
[02:28] <theINC> Hehe.  I'm also new.  I'm just looking to try all 3 OSes.
[02:28] <magnetron> relix: yes. you might want to install bluez-gnome
[02:28] <relix> just now I installed gnome-bluetooth, but that doesn't do anything except sit in the taskbar. I tried connecting to it with my phone, and it did find my PC, but when it tried to connect it asked for a code. I typed 1111, thinking that I'll get a dialog on the PC to enter the same code, but it just says it can't connect :(
[02:28] <theINC> I've got a Mac, and I've got Windows, so Ubuntu is a bit of a Linux entry point to me.
[02:28] <relix> ok magnetron
[02:28] <afief> theINC, only 3? you have tried nothing until you try HURD
[02:28] <cello_rasp> hi.. I can't burn any discs: :-( unable to open64("/dev/hdd",O_RDONLY): Permission denied
[02:29] <raphae1> start the programm with sudo?
[02:29] <magnetron> relix: did you try to pair in the opposite direction, pc -> phone?
[02:29] <cello_rasp> raphae1 using sudo to do typica user things is wrong
[02:30] <ethereality> msk: no, i didn't. is #gaim a channel on this server?
[02:30] <raphae1> k, sry
[02:30] <relix> magnetron: I can't find any menu or buttons with gnome-bluetooth
[02:30] <relix> I'm now installing bluez-gnome
[02:30] <LjL> ethereality: no but #pidgin is
[02:30] <AlienLifeForm> anyone with knowledge of wubi ?
[02:30] <raphae1> does anybody know a solution for my volume-key problem?
[02:31] <ethereality> ...? .... pidgin ......
[02:31] <wastrel> SCREECHY HYPER FUN TIME
[02:31] <LjL> !pidgin
[02:31] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept - At the time of feisty's final freeze, Pidgin has not been released, so Pidgin will not be going into feisty.  Expect Pidgin in feisty+1!  See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info
[02:31] <ncd> if i where to recompile my kernel more specific for my cpu, when i update will apt select relevant to arch packages
[02:32] <LjL> ncd: err? the packages are either x86 or amd64, there aren't any "intermediate" architectures
[02:32] <ethereality> are you serious? how lame, lol
[02:32] <ethereality> AOL really does have issues
[02:32] <Huffameg> again.. how to fix resolution
[02:32] <Huffameg> ?
[02:32] <LjL> ethereality, their home page has more detail
[02:32] <IdleOne> !fixres
[02:32] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:32] <afief> LjL I think he means i686
[02:32] <Huffameg> thx
[02:33] <LjL> afief: maybe, i don't get the question though. if you recompile the kernel, i don't see just how other packages would be affected
[02:33] <ncd> mm yeah arnt the current igeneric?
[02:33] <pyrohotdog> would there be any benefit for a home user, to use HURD?
[02:34] <Huffameg> i need a lot of help..
[02:34] <afief> ncd, I don't know the current(am trying to compile my own) but you should install the i686(if that's your CPU) from the repositories and remove the generic to recieve only its updates
[02:34] <LjL> ncd: the current kernel is called "generic" yes, but that's simply because there previously used to be (now useless) kernels specific to 386, 586, etc. the 64bit kernel is still separate. but in any case, *other* packages never had that distinction
[02:34] <Huffameg> my system.. ehm.. crashed?
[02:34] <LjL> !generic > ncd    (ncd, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:34] <technikk> hi, i have a problem with my NEC DVDRW ND-6650A drive, reading only dvd-s...cd-r or cd-rw not reading :/
[02:34] <LjL> afief: no. why?
[02:34] <Huffameg> someone who can help me close up?
[02:34] <LjL> !generic
[02:34] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[02:34] <afief> pyrohotdog, sure:D more headache, and more "free" code
[02:34] <LjL> use -generic, it's there to be used.
[02:34] <Sergo> !generic > Sergo
[02:34] <ethereality> is it just me, or does http://www.pidgin.im/pidgin/news/ have nothing in it?
[02:34] <LjL> optimizations for a given processor are loaded dynamically
[02:35] <afief> LjL, guess i need to read up on generic myself then. I thought it's a normal 386
[02:35] <LjL> mrigns: this is a support channel, no spam please
[02:35] <mrigns> LjL: ok sorry
[02:35] <Huffameg> i fucked up during a resolution-config.. someone who can help?
[02:35] <LjL> afief: no, it's not. indeed, i think it won't run on a 386 processor
[02:35] <LjL> !language | Huffameg
[02:35] <ubotu> Huffameg: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:35] <LjL> Huffameg: restore the backup xorg.conf
[02:35] <afief> !generic > afief
[02:36] <Huffameg> LjL, what does that mean?
[02:36] <ncd> i would of thought gcc would produce a better binary when running on  a specific cpu arch
[02:36] <IdleOne> Huffameg, it means watch your language
[02:36] <LjL> Huffameg: resolution stuff is stored in a file called /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  if you used dpkg-reconfigure to change the settings, it will have created a backup, most likely, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf-something
[02:36] <Huffameg> sorry..
[02:36] <LjL> Huffameg: try  ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf* 
[02:37] <pyrohotdog> afief: ha, well, was curious. ;)
[02:37] <afief> pyrohotdog, well, hurd is horribly broken to the best of my knowledge
[02:37] <Huffameg> okay?
[02:37] <Huffameg> i have a list of three..
[02:38] <Huffameg> one of them is a date and a time..
[02:38] <LjL> ncd: that's correct, but the speed improvements are generally very minimal for most programs. the kernel is an exception -- but again, the generic kernel DOES have optimizations for the various CPUs; they're just used as needed, so no need to have multiple builds
[02:39] <LjL> ncd: other (non-kernel) packages never had different builds for different Intel flavors to begin with -- and the speed improvements really would be marginal, anyway.
[02:39] <Huffameg> LjL, what now?
[02:39] <ncd> fair enough makes 100% sens when you look at it like that :D
[02:39] <LjL> Huffameg: well, what did that command show?
[02:40] <VSpike> How would I got about changing the boot priority of my hard drives?  I mean, I know how to do it in the BIOS, but how will it affect my grub setup, and my system?
[02:40] <LjL> Huffameg: what's the third?
[02:40] <ncd> lessening the chance of software breakage as well
[02:40] <afief> ncd, I just read it though, guess LjL is right, however I think heavy number crunching apps are an exception
[02:40] <Huffameg> LjL, you mean the last? ...conf.custom
[02:40] <afief> ncd, examples are cinelerra and blender just to name a couple
[02:40] <ncd> yeah surely where 3D and floating point are consearned
[02:40] <VSpike> I assume I need to do "sudo grub-install hdN" to install grub on the relevant disk
[02:40] <ncd> some cpus where strides ahead
[02:40] <Huffameg> LjL, the strange one i conf.the date and time it crashed..
[02:40] <LjL> afief, ncd: possibly... however, we just don't have them packaged for different archs. i think mplayer is among the few packages that are compiled for several archs
[02:41] <Dr_willis> VSpike,  yep - somthing like that.
[02:41] <VSpike> Will grub's device map change?
[02:41] <afief> ncd, yup, and the kernel never uses floating point(just read that in ldd3)
[02:41] <LjL> Huffameg: copy it over the current one to restore your previous settings
[02:41] <Dr_willis> VSpike,  device map i dont think should change.
[02:41] <Huffameg> LjL, okay. how do i do that?
[02:41] <LjL> Huffameg: i can't know if you don't give me the actual filenames
[02:41] <afief> LjL, sure but people who need the extra performance can(should) learn to compile their own
[02:41] <VSpike> What about device names in Linux?  IIRC they are assigned by IDE channels etc so should have nothing to do with boot priority
[02:42] <Dr_willis> VSpike,  but i do recall on some old pc's that if they had a special 'boot menu in the bios'  that i could select what pc to boot. that they may swap the hd's about. But i only had 1 pc like that.
[02:42] <LjL> afief: i'm not sure i entirely agree... but at any rate, his question was different
[02:42] <Dr_willis> VSpike,  hda should always be hda. you can 'swap' them around with some grub optiuons
[02:42] <Huffameg> Ljl, /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070512141625
[02:42] <VSpike> Dr_willis: well, it should be safe to try it out I think
[02:42] <pyrohotdog> Can anyone else get to a working download for Ubuntu Studio?
[02:42] <LjL> Huffameg:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070512141625 /etc/X11/xorg.conf 
[02:42] <pyrohotdog> Server errors
[02:42] <Dr_willis> VSpike,  yep. Grub is omne of those tools that is well worth reading/learning all about.
[02:42] <afief> LjL: wanna take it to some chit-chat channel to discuss?
[02:43] <LjL> afief: there's #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:43] <VSpike> Dr_willis: You can control how grub maps its device names (hd0, hd1, hd2..) to linux devices (hda, hdb, sda..)
[02:43] <icy> hi. when I use the backspace key in nano (local and remote), it deletes the char at the current cursor position and not the one bevore it. how can I change that behavior? (it's quite confusing)
[02:43] <VSpike> Dr_willis: /boot/grub/device.map controls that
[02:43] <Dr_willis> VSpike,  not actually tried that. :) but ages ago i had to swap the 2nd and first hd's in gryb to make windows95 happy.
[02:43] <Huffameg> LjL, okay.. then what?
[02:44] <VSpike> Dr_willis: I had to learn about it when my clean install of feisty into a spare partition failed to install grub
[02:44] <Dr_willis> VSpike,  of course some day soon they will all be sd## that will be a lot of confuseion.
[02:44] <Dox1> whats a good program on ubuntu for converting video to iPod Video format?
[02:44] <ncd> yeah my question was really about apts intellegence
[02:44] <esperegu> Saluton chiuj!
[02:44] <ncd> i thought it was smarter
[02:44] <esperegu> how can I disable nautilus and metacity as the desktop and windows managers?
[02:45] <LjL> Huffameg: then, as soon as you restart X, you're back to your previous (hopefully working) configuration. what is next depends on what you want to achieve, i would suppose
[02:45] <Huffameg> LjL, how do i restart X?
[02:45] <Huffameg> LjL, reboot?
[02:45] <Dox1> whats a good program on ubuntu for converting video to iPod Video format?
[02:45] <jrib> !ipod > Dox1 (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:45] <kirkunit> esperegu, install a different window manager and change session in GDM log-in
[02:46] <VSpike> Dr_willis: I think it was an installer bug... I tried to add my new install to my existing grub (from edgy) and found the problem.  The installed had reformatted the partition as ext3 but had left the partition type in the table as ntfs
[02:46] <esperegu> kirkunit: I would like to keep everything as is. Just that it won't boot nautilus and metacity on boot. (I wil
[02:46] <Huffameg> LjL, sorry.. newbie..
[02:46] <LjL> Huffameg: ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:46] <Dr_willis> VSpike,  seen a similer bug to that befor also. :)
[02:46] <VSpike> Dr_willis: these things are always a pita at the time, but you come out knowing more about something :) education through adversity lol
[02:46] <Dr_willis> VSpike,  its amazing how smart the linux installs are compared to say 2 years ago.
[02:46] <kirkunit> esperegu: i don't really know how you'd do that. sorry.
[02:46] <Huffameg> LjL, that does not work.. i am in terminal, uable to load graphics..
[02:46] <esperegu> kirkunit: I will then add fluxbox and it should run how I want it. (with all the panels and stuff that is standard)
[02:47] <LjL> Huffameg: then  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart 
[02:47] <esperegu> kirkunit: 2 bad. thx anyway!
[02:47] <VSpike> Dr_willis: yeah they are very impresive.  I installed debian in about 96 to experiment with linux and it took me weeks to get X running.. lol
[02:47] <VSpike> Dr_willis: a steep learning curve for sure
[02:47] <HymnToLife> Dr_willis, define "smart"
[02:47] <kirkunit> esperegu: well I used to run fluxbox with fbpanel and a few other plugins to make it gnome-like but much faster.
[02:47] <Huffameg> LjL, thank you <3 life saver
[02:48] <HymnToLife> the user is supposed to be smart, not the installer
[02:48] <icy> hi. when I use the backspace key in nano (local and remote), it deletes the char at the current cursor position and not the one before it. how can I change that behavior? (it's quite confusing)
[02:48] <ncd> afief, LjL ... there is a part of me that thinks it would be interesting to see a machine that every binary optimized for its own cpu
[02:48] <HymnToLife> the installer is supposed to be dumb and just do what the user tells it to do
[02:48] <esperegu> kirkunit: aha.
[02:48] <kirkunit> esperagu: http://fbpanel.sourceforge.net/
[02:48] <afief> ncd: I think gentoo does just that
[02:48] <ncd> the some of all parts inter acting there must be something to be ganed
[02:48] <VSpike> HymnToLife: why?
[02:48] <afief> ncd: if not, there is the LFS guide
[02:49] <Dr_willis> HymnToLife,  blasphmy. :) next you will be expecting them to actually put forth some effort to learn!
[02:49] <HymnToLife> VSpike, would you like your computer do something you don't want it to do ?
[02:49] <HymnToLife> I wouldn't
[02:49] <ethereality> Can I rate music in Exaile and then make playlists from it to upload using gtkpod?
[02:49] <esperegu> kirkunit: the only think I really miss now is the rightclick menu of fluxbox
[02:49] <Slart> anyone know of someone making scanners that work on linux? preferably someone that cooperates to make them compatible
[02:49] <VSpike> HymnToLife: no, but i don't mind allowing it make sensible choices on my behalf with my permission
[02:49] <ncd> i gues when apt its getting source
[02:49] <ncd> it is happening
[02:49] <esperegu> kirkunit: further I prefer to keep it as default as possible... will try to mess with my session a little... brb.
[02:50] <VSpike> HymnToLife: I must admit though, I prefer the alternate install the to live CD one :)
[02:50] <Dr_willis> alternative isntall cd seems to work faster on an install for my systems.
[02:51] <HymnToLife> I guess it's faster for _all_ systems
[02:51] <Dr_willis> but the live cd is darn handy to keep around for testing.
[02:51] <HymnToLife> the Ubuntu Live CD I just use to reinstall GRUB when I need to
[02:51] <Dr_willis> of course ubuntu installs a lot faster then some.. other os's :)
[02:51] <VSpike> HymnToLife: I don't like the way the 7.04 installer handles disks... it assumes you will want to allow it to do everything automatically for you, and in my cases at least takes ages scanning your drives before making fatuous suggestions and only then allowing you to choose a manual setup.
[02:51] <HymnToLife> and the gparted one for partitioning :p
[02:51] <VSpike> HymnToLife: In that example, I'm right behind you
[02:52] <nolimitsoya> having been away from ubuntu personaly for a while, but in the process of installing it for a friend: what outstanding problems exist for the 64bit version/would it be safe to install it for a non techsavvy user, or would they run into any serious trouble? (think media, surfing etc...)
[02:52] <holde> sry, anybody knows how to start win in safe mode from ubuntu bootloader? :D
[02:52] <hammedhaaret> Hi... i just installed ubuntu on my laptop.  im always using wifi and it irritates me that i have to write the keyring password evry single time i turn on my com even though i just logged in... anyway to make it log on by itself or should i just stop whining??
[02:52] <HymnToLife> holde, you actually _can_ do that ?
[02:52] <HymnToLife> I really don't think so
[02:52] <nolimitsoya> holde, press f8 right after grub chainloads it boot loader
[02:52] <nolimitsoya> *its
[02:52] <Dr_willis> HymnToLife,  i dont think so either. ya got to hit F8 at just the right time.
[02:53] <holde> k ill try it thx
[02:53] <kirkunit> nolimitsoya: It's not easy to get the Flash plugin running on 64bit Ubuntu.
[02:54] <Slart> nolimitsoya: the only things I've encountered are problems with flash and minor java stuff
[02:54] <Slart> nolimitsoya: there are solutions, I have 2 versions of firefox installed at the moment.. one 64 bit and one 32 bit
[02:54] <nolimitsoya> kirkunit, Slart, ok, so flash is a no go... thats unfortunate, but perhaps acceptable. anything else to be aware of?
[02:54] <HymnToLife> nolimitsoya, there's really no point in running 64bit is you don't plan to use very specific apps specifically designed for it
[02:55] <HymnToLife> even for a simple LAMP stack, 32bit is the way to go
[02:55] <nolimitsoya> ok, 32bit it is then :)
[02:55] <kirkunit> nolimitsoya: yes, and there's NSPluginWrapper: http://freshmeat.net/projects/nspluginwrapper/
[02:55] <Dr_willis> I agree with HymnToLife  no need to use 64bit ubuntu unless you got some power processing to do.. and the tools to do it 64bit fully.
[02:55] <Slart> nolimitsoya: not that I can remember at the moment.. most stuff work fine out of the box.. oh.. wine is another 32-bit only app
[02:55] <bsm> hi, I'm trying to create a "remove" event for udev in feisty, but it does not work... heres my rules file: http://nopaste.php-q.net/294193
[02:55] <Ahmadineja1> Any simple guide to call from Xlite (worldcall.dk)
[02:55] <b52> ubuntuusers.de broken?
[02:55] <Dr_willis> java had issues some time back with 64bit i think.. but thats been fixed now Ibelive.
[02:56] <ncd> hammedhaaret, which wifi driver?
[02:56] <nolimitsoya> Dr_willis, the problem is more about lacking processing power, and making it up by using the 64bit capabilities...
[02:56] <hammedhaaret> Hi again... i just installed ubuntu on my laptop.  im always using wifi and it irritates me that i have to write the keyring password evry single time i turn on my com even though i just logged in... anyway to make it log on by itself or should i just stop whining??
[02:56] <HymnToLife> actually, on the same system, I've experienced a slight performance loss with 64bit compared to 32 bit (on a 3200+, in FBSD though)
[02:56] <eexpress> hi, if anyone use some pcb design software? such as eagle/  geda/  oregano/
[02:56] <ncd> if you use it all the time ust right a script to interfaace with iwconfig and wot not
[02:57] <mptech> atrix
[02:57] <nolimitsoya> HymnToLife, thats odd... but good to know :)
[02:57] <mptech> err, I mean atrus
[02:57] <hammedhaaret> ncd: ups didn't see your post... uhm dunno.. haven't installed a driver. it worked fine from the moment i switched my wifi on
[02:57] <beni> hey my apache2 doesnt care about my .htaccess files
[02:57] <HymnToLife> nolimitsoya, it's very minimal though, about 0.1 milliseconds slower to triangule a 6x6 matrix :p
[02:58] <orbin> hammedhaaret:  are you hiding your SSID?
[02:58] <LjL> ncd: i concur, if you want that, you use gentoo. however, really, for the vast majority of programs, there's no perceivable benefit *at all* using an optimized build. there may be for some number crunchers, as afief said. that can be done on a per-package basis using tooks like apt-build
[02:58] <chaloo> I've got a problem: When i boot Ubuntu, since i updatet to fesity fawn, my windowmanager (Metacity, i'm using gnome) won't start. So i have either to start it per consol or i have to click  System->preferences->GL Desktop, activate it and then, he starts Metacity and i can click on "use previos settings" to just use my gnome without gl desktop but Metacity started. soooo this is my Situation atm. he won't start metacity, i have to do manual
[02:58] <chaloo> ly on separate ways. Now i want to write a script, that starts metacity on startup but i don't know how to do this. Thanks for every help :)
[02:58] <Thorns> Does anyone have good experience setting up a DualHead Display on a laptop with i810, LFP and CRT?
[02:59] <kirkunit> beni: probably need to edit your apache conf file to set: AllowOverride All
[02:59] <beni> kirkunit: which dir is my apache config?
[03:00] <Thorns> chaloo, Try to remove the old user settings. rm -R ~/.metacity
[03:00] <HymnToLife> beni, /etc/apache2
[03:00] <HymnToLife> or /etc/apache if you installed apache 1.x
[03:00] <kirkunit> kirkunit: /etc/apache2/sites-available
[03:00] <eexpress>  if anyone use some pcb design software? such as eagle/  geda/  oregano/
[03:00] <Thorns> chaloo, even rm -R ~/.gnome*
[03:00] <kirkunit> oops
[03:00] <kirkunit> beni: /etc/apache2/sites-available
[03:00] <hammedhaaret> orbin: i have no idea... didnt know what ssid was untill i just googled it
[03:00] <Thorns> chaloo, but you'll loose your settings
[03:01] <orbin> hammedhaaret: ah, sorry, read your post wrong :P
[03:01] <magnetron> How do i enable MIDI playback support?
[03:01] <anderson> what's the best program to watch DVD?
[03:01] <LjL> !midi > magnetron    (magnetron, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:01] <beni> kirkunit: ah okay i found it, and why do I need to set AllowOverride to "All"?
[03:01] <orbin> hammedhaaret: thinking of something entirely different, sorry.
[03:02] <hammedhaaret> orbin: np
[03:02] <chaloo> Thorns ok i will try thank you.
[03:02] <HymnToLife> anderson, Xine
[03:02] <HymnToLife> with whatever frontend you like
[03:02] <kirkunit> kirkunit: to enable you to use .htaccess files... although it's probably recommended that you don't, and put all commands directly in the conf file.
[03:02] <Dr_willis> i tend to use vlc for most all my video videwing needs
[03:02] <gracek> how to run an app with an attribute in wine ?
[03:03] <beni> kirkunit: okay thank you, I just need that to test some mod_rewrite stuff.. The Webserver isnt accessible from outside anyways
[03:03] <trumpeter2003> gracek: wine /path/to/program.exe -flag1 -flag2
[03:03] <gracek> doesn't work
[03:03] <eexpress> 
[03:04] <orbin> hammedhaaret: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=9f68692edc4bd5f0b825662af1558e03&t=187874&page=11 - possible method.  haven't tried it myself.
[03:04] <trumpeter2003> gracek: Then try, env WINEPREFIX="/path/to/.wine/directory" wine C:\\path\\to\\program.exe -flag1 -flag2
[03:04] <Dr_willis> 'dosent work' as in the pc explodes? or does it give some sort of actual error message? :)
[03:05] <infbliss> hi all can somebody tell me how to give execute permissions in vfat
[03:05] <infbliss> 	   partitions
[03:06] <infbliss> in /etc/fstab
[03:06] <xtknight> infbliss, 'exec' fstab option
[03:06] <xtknight> and umask=0000  (or mask  an executable permission)
[03:07] <infbliss> xtknight: how to give this permissions for all users
[03:07] <infbliss> xtknight: can you tell me if this is correct
[03:07] <infbliss> rw,user,exec,umask=0000
[03:07] <gr33npho3nix> ssh dark
[03:07] <xtknight> infbliss, for all users yes
[03:07] <xtknight> that is correct
[03:08] <matej> why i cant load fastresume in qtorrent?
[03:08] <dworkin> is there an open-Xchange deb package? there was one for debian/sarge but that's outdated and i don't want to mix the two distros.
[03:08] <infbliss> xtknight: ok i will try
[03:08] <Girithaara> annyone around?
[03:08] <Girithaara> :)
[03:09] <Girithaara> can i install berly if i dont have a graphic card? mine is onboard Intel 256mb graphic
[03:10] <hammedhaaret> orbin: thx man.. looks like thats it.. see you around
[03:10] <jmspeex> Am I the only one here with a gnome-panel that crashes several times a day?
[03:10] <Fossilet> Hello. How can I run the actually sh instead of bash?
[03:11] <Fossilet> Thanks.
[03:11] <Henning> hey guys
[03:11] <Slart> Fossilet: tried running "sh" in the console?
[03:11] <jmspeex> Wouldn't be *that* annoying if it weren't for the fact that all the stuff in the notification area just "leaves" the panel and ends up with their own window
[03:11] <Henning> can anyone tell me how to 'upgrade' from xubuntu 7.04 to ubuntu 7.04?
[03:11] <Fossilet> sh is linked to bash
[03:11] <Slart> Fossilet: hmm.. mine isn't
[03:11] <Fossilet> wow, 1240 people.
[03:11] <mpgamer55> hi all
[03:12] <Fossilet> Slart: which distro do you use?
[03:12] <melina> Hey, just installed Kubuntu Feisty, and can't find the switch to turn on Xeffects
[03:12] <stefg> !effects
[03:12] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[03:12] <Slart> Fossilet: I guess if you knew where the actual file is you could run it with the full path   (bin/sh) or something
[03:12] <Slart> Fossilet: ubuntu feisty fawn
[03:13] <Henning> can anyone tell me how to 'upgrade' from xubuntu 7.04 to ubuntu 7.04?
[03:13] <Fossilet> Slart: /bin/sh looks like sh, but it behaves like bash. press ctrl-x ctrl-v gives the version info of gnu bash.
[03:13] <Henning> can anyone tell me how to 'upgrade' from xubuntu 7.04 to ubuntu 7.04?
[03:13] <cdubya> !upgrade
[03:13] <Henning> can anyone tell me how to 'upgrade' from xubuntu 7.04 to ubuntu 7.04?
[03:13] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:13] <stefg> Henning: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:13] <freakwire_> NickServ
[03:13] <Henning> thanks
[03:14] <voltagex> Henning don't repeat your question so quickly
[03:14] <Henning> i'll try that
[03:14] <Henning> sorry :)
[03:14] <Henning> see ya
[03:14] <Slart> Fossilet: once again I have to disagree.. I have a separate sh shell.. different from bash and ctrl-x ctrl-v doesn't give me anything in sh
[03:15] <Fossilet> Slart: I am also using ubuntu 7.04. ...why mine is bash...
[03:15] <Slart> Fossilet: I upgraded from Edgy.. did you do a fresh install?
[03:15] <Rage_> Hi, how do I enable syntax hilighting in vim, if i uncomment the line "syntax on" it says bad line. :)
[03:15] <Fossilet> Slart: I upgraded from edgy too.
[03:15] <Davelister> hello world
[03:15] <mpgamer55> feisty fawn is cool. Nice update.
[03:16] <Slart> Fossilet: most weird.. let me search and see if I have an executable for sh somewhere
[03:16] <Fossilet> Slart: thank you~
[03:16] <natsumey> hi
[03:17] <natsumey> how to limit process /usr/lib/courier/courier-authlib/authdaemond
[03:17] <natsumey> i mean how many daemon can running
[03:17] <jrib> Rage_: you need to install vim-full (ubuntu ships a limited vim, vim-tiny, by default)
[03:17] <trumpeter2003> Fossilet: If you are trying to start sh, type /bin/sh or just sh, it is NOT the bash shell
[03:17] <Davelister> anybody can help me? I've a problem with my chroot: when I want to do a chroot on my directory /home/user/live-cd , Ubuntu answers me "Illegal instruction" :/
[03:17] <Rage_> jrib: Thanks. how lame.
[03:17] <Hamm_sand> HELLOOOooz peeps
[03:18] <Hamm_sand> whos the l33t3st one in here
[03:18] <Slart> Fossilet: here's my bin dir.. it's linked to somerthing called dash...
[03:18] <cdubya> how can I get update-manager to look for new dist upgrades?
[03:18] <Slart> Fossilet: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20483/
[03:18] <jrib> !offtopic | Hamm_sand
[03:18] <ubotu> Hamm_sand: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:18] <Davelister> I've tested with dchroot too, but same answer
[03:18] <cdubya> I tried what the wiki said and it's belly aching that -c isn't a good option
[03:18] <Fossilet> trumpeter2003: it's linked to bash.
[03:18] <cholera> how can I make vlc my default media player
[03:18] <piglit> wat was the command you use to activate a LVM ??
[03:19] <yxairyggen> I have a friend who had one partition with ubuntu and one with windows XP, and he just removed the ubuntu-partition and got error in grub becuse grub read from the ubuntu-partition he just removed, what is the easiest solution if he only wants to run windows?
[03:19] <Hamm_sand> cholera: you can always right click the file and click "play with vlc"
[03:19] <jrib> cdubya: what version of ubuntu?
[03:19] <yxairyggen> Is there any way to reinstall the windows boot loader to mbr, or should he reinstall grub?
[03:19] <cholera> Hamm_sand: yeah, I was just wondering if there was a way to put an option in the context menu
[03:19] <wastrel> Slart:  dash
[03:19] <trumpeter2003> Fossilet: sh is usually just a command interpreter, which is just the dash shell
[03:19] <wastrel> !dash |slart
[03:19] <ubotu> slart: /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to  #! /bin/bash 
[03:20] <eexpress>  if anyone use some pcb design software? such as eagle/  geda/  oregano/
[03:20] <jrib> yxairyggen: run 'fixmbr' from the recovery console on the xp install disk
[03:20] <Slart> ah.. thanks wastrel
[03:21] <Fossilet> Slart: Then i installed dash. And then sh is no longer bash. Thanks.
[03:21] <orbin> cholera: if you do open with other app then select vlc, it will show up in the menu next time
[03:21] <yxairyggen> jrib: Thanks
[03:21] <Younge> hey, need some help installing Ubuntu, I downloaded the Zip file from virgin medias server, extracted it, burnt it to disk and it wont boot, any ideas?
[03:21] <Slart> Fossilet: funny.. can't remember installing it.. well well.. it seems to work.. let's not mess with it
[03:22] <stefg> !download | Younge
[03:22] <ubotu> Younge: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[03:22] <orbin> cholera: if you want to make it default for files, right-click > properties, then open with tab ... default for dvds, sys >prefs > removable media
[03:22] <Fossilet> :D
[03:22] <cholera> orbin: thanks
[03:22] <Younge> stefg i downloaded it from there, it one of your mirrors
[03:23] <stefg> Younge: and don't unpack... use an image burning software and use the image to CD burn method
[03:23] <Younge> thank you stefg
[03:26] <cac_> hi folks
[03:27] <wedontneed> how can i disable grub and enable lilo
[03:29] <magnetron> I can play midi using the text-mode aplaymidi, but is there any GUI to do the same thing?
[03:29] <Younge> Quick question, when installing ubuntu do i get the option to keep windows right? so i can choose which one to boot from
[03:30] <magnetron> Younge: yes
[03:30] <tiver> hello supporters. I installed Ubuntu 7 a few hours ago and want to connect to the Internet. But I only see a Modem connection - but I need the connection with a network card
[03:30] <tiver> the help shows a "+" but i cannot add a connection unfortunately
[03:31] <Fossilet> oh
[03:31] <tiver> could somebody assist me with network-connection set-up?
[03:31] <Slart> tiver: usually there isn't a lot to setup... what kind of network card do you use?
[03:32] <slider2800> hi all.
[03:32] <tiver> a normal network card
[03:32] <tiver> with LAN-cables
[03:32] <wedontneed> how can i disable grub and enable lilo?
[03:32] <Orkinfire> @ tiver : places > network not work for finding networked pc's?
[03:33] <tiver> i am so far proficient with networking and set-ups but there is simply no option ..
[03:33] <pianoboy3333> Where can I get real player for feisty? is there a repos? Where is the canonical repos?
[03:33] <slider2800> Can someone help me a bit with the Gnome Panel? The guys over at ##gnome won't say a word.
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I have a strange problem, Im using a built in atheros wifi on my laptop which worked out of the box on feisty until the other day I booted the pc and its gone??? now I have to connect using an ethernet cable?? why does linux do these things, I thought it was stable or "rock solid" rather...
[03:33] <tiver> orkinfire: i will check that but i have to go over a router
[03:33] <tiver> BRB
[03:33] <trumpeter2003> pianoboy3333: Look at Medibuntu
[03:33] <pianoboy3333> ok
[03:34] <magnetron> Paddy_EIRE: according to your description, it seems like windows did that thing
[03:34] <tiver> back
[03:34] <magnetron> Paddy_EIRE: oops sorry misread
[03:34] <tiver> orkinfire: no, i have to go for the router
[03:35] <tiver> but since i cannot connect through my network card, i dont get far
[03:35] <Slart> tiver can you open a console and run ifconfig.. if your network card is installed and running you should get two items there.. eth0 and lo
[03:35] <magnetron> Paddy_EIRE: I use an atheros card too. do you use the network manager?
[03:36] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, yes, it vanished from there
[03:36] <magnetron> Paddy_EIRE: is it enabled in System> administration > network?
[03:36] <tiver> slart: i start a private session, is that okay?
[03:36] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, it does not show up in there anymore
[03:37] <magnetron> Paddy_EIRE: what happens if you disable the wired card?
[03:37] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, aint tried that but I would assume I would have no connection at all
[03:38] <LasoL> somebody has a vaio fe?
[03:38] <pianoboy3333> Where can I get real player for feisty? is there a repository?
[03:38] <magnetron> Paddy_EIRE: i had to disable my wired NIC, or nm-applet would try to use the wired one instead
[03:38] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, gonna try
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> brb
[03:39] <unikon> Has anyone installed Pidggin
[03:39] <Orkinfire> its the same as gaim
[03:39] <Orkinfire> I never noticed the difference
[03:39] <unikon> Pidgin yet on there Ubuntu pc
[03:39] <Orkinfire> other than that they changed the smilies
[03:39] <Orkinfire> which just annoyed me
[03:40] <Orkinfire> pianoboy3333: try : sudo apt-get install realplayer in the terminal
[03:40] <unikon>  i know its not in synaptic
[03:40] <unikon> cant find pidgin in synaptic
[03:41] <jrib> pianoboy3333: I don't know of a repository.  Do you know that mplayer can play realplayer stuff?  Here's how to install reaplayer if you still want it:
[03:41] <jrib> !restricted > pianoboy3333 (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:41] <wedontneed> how can i disable grub and enable lilo?
[03:42] <orbin> unikon: it wouldn't be.  it wasn't released when feisty was frozen so never made it in.
[03:42] <anandanbu> can someone help me i have a corrupted Xorg in ubuntu 7.04 and i want to backup my data
[03:42] <cholera> I'm having trouble running VLC, receive this in terminal  no suitable access module for `/home/tbuss/.vlc/skins2/default.vlt'
[03:42] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, nope that just leaves me with no connection at all
[03:43] <magnetron> Paddy_EIRE: ok, is it possible that the NIC is disabled in BIOS?
[03:43] <cbs> hi all
[03:43] <Kohvihoor> Hey, has anyone tried to have dual-monitor setup, without connecting other monitor, but instead using another computers monitor over a network?
[03:43] <kirkunit> unikon: it's quite straightforward to compile it
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, nope, as I said it was there then its vanished
[03:43] <cbs> im trying to run counter strike source CD installer, from actual CD's, thru wine, when it asks me to insert the second disk, gnomer tells me it cant open the CD drive, that CS:S installer has use of the drive, even though CS:S installer is asking for CD 2
[03:44] <Orkinfire> anandanbu, if you have a networked computer you can send data to it by booting in with a live cd, accessing the files and then sending them across the network
[03:44] <anandanbu> i have problem with my X server and im using the live cd to browse now can some one  help me as how i can backup the important datas
[03:44] <magnetron> Paddy_EIRE: which driver are you using? did you switch from the standard one?
[03:44] <afflux> I'm using a gigabyte ga-m55s-s3 mainboard with an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ EE cpu... how can i enable frequency scaling with the gnome applet? (when starting it tells me that my system would be unsupport but i'm sure I had it working once ago)
[03:44] <mc44> jrib: the edgy deb from the commercial repo works in feisty
[03:44] <afflux> cbs: try executing "wine eject" from a console
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, no, used the default feisty one
[03:44] <mc44> jrib: (for realplayer)
[03:44] <cbs> k
[03:44] <anandanbu> sorry Orkinfire i don't have a network system but i have an external harddrive
[03:45] <MindTheGap_> how do I add new fonts on Feisty? copied the fonts to ~/.fonts ,issued a mkfontdor then a xset fp+ ~/.fonts then a xset fp rehash then a fc-cache but new fonts wont show up...
[03:45] <Orkinfire> anandanbu : can you not attempt to send the data to that?
[03:45] <garo113> Hi everyone, I'm having a problem when trying to install Ubuntu 7.04 from win vista. When running it from a cd, trying to install, it says the x server is unavailable or something of that nature. Does anyone know a soloution to this? I've tried to install 6.06 and it works fine.
[03:45] <anandanbu> can i backup in that and how do i do it
[03:46] <orbin> wedontneed: may i ask why?
[03:46] <kazol> Is xdvdshrink a good program? k9copy does not work for me.
[03:46] <wedontneed> orbin: because i want it. Why why?
[03:47] <cholera> vlc will not run, is I receive this in the terminal: error: invalid string constant "000000", expected valid string constant
[03:47] <Younge> hey install ubuntu now, its asking if i want to do a guided partion or a manual..... what if i dont want to do neather....
[03:47] <Younge> I already formatted my hardrive for windows..... i dont wat to again...
[03:47] <anandanbu> can i repair a corrupted Xorg file by using a live CD and if so how can i do that
[03:48] <Orkinfire> anandanbu: plug it in and see if its accessable through the places > computer part of the system, if not press control-alt-backspace and attempt again to see if its there
[03:48] <malky> guys, how do i install packages without internet connection? (i need pppoe)
[03:48] <magnetron> Paddy_EIRE: try this in a terminal: cat /proc/modules | grep ath
[03:48] <kazol> Has anyone here tried xdvdshrink?
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, do I use sudo?
[03:48] <VSpike> malky: do you have the package on CD or anything?
[03:48] <anandanbu> but i think the execute premissions for that drive wouldn't be there
[03:49] <magnetron> Paddy_EIRE: no need for sudo
[03:49] <VSpike> kazol: I couldnt get it to work properly
[03:49] <MindTheGap_> how do I add new fonts on Feisty? copied the fonts to ~/.fonts ,issued a mkfontdor then a xset fp+ ~/.fonts then a xset fp rehash then a fc-cache but new fonts wont show up...
[03:49] <cbs> afflux: winde eject reports no cd drive found?
[03:49] <VSpike> kazol: qvamps works well
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, ath_pci 97312 0 - Live 0xf0ccd000
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> wlan 204484 1 ath_pci, Live 0xf0f68000
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> ath_hal 192592 1 ath_pci, Live 0xf0cfe000 (P)
[03:49] <orbin> wedontneed: just curious.
[03:49] <VSpike> MindTheGap_: were they bitmap fonts?
[03:49] <gluttony> does any one know of a generic sound card driver that would work with a built in sound card?
[03:49] <wedontneed> orbin: lol . i think lilo looks more grafical isnt it?
[03:49] <Orkinfire> anandanbu: to make it read/writable, go to the terminal and type "sudo chmod 777 /media/drivename"
[03:50] <anandanbu> ok
[03:50] <cholera> how do I remove vlc completely, it will not work and I want to remove everything associated with it
[03:50] <magnetron> Paddy_EIRE: seems like the drivers for the card is loaded after all
[03:50] <afflux> cbs: uh.. no idea then
[03:50] <anandanbu> thanks for your help Orkinfire ill try it
[03:50] <optimistul> if there with azures were installed extra files, how to delete them too, becouse synaptic will remove only azureus without installed aditional files
[03:50] <optimistul> ..
[03:50] <MindTheGap_> VSpike, they're .pcf
[03:50] <Younge> i am currently installing Ubuntu and it is asking me if i want to partinion ether manualy or guided, which one do i go for if i don't want to partinion just want to install Ubuntu on the same partintion as windows
[03:50] <orbin> wedontneed: been a long time since i used it. but yeah i seem to remember so.
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, yeah, thats why I wonder why it has vanished?
[03:50] <malky> VSpike: i have the Xubuntu 7.04 cd (and the ubuntu 7.04 cd).
[03:50] <wastrel> Younge:  you want to erase windows?
[03:50] <Younge> ??
[03:51] <Younge> wastrel no
[03:51] <VSpike> MindTheGap_: OK, I'm no font expert - I just know you specifically have to enable bitmap fonts
[03:51] <Younge> i want to keep windows and install ubunto
[03:51] <Younge> ubuntu
[03:51] <wastrel> Younge:  you can't have both windows and ubuntu on the same partition. you need at least 2 partitions.
[03:51] <Younge> But it is asking me to partinion, but i dont want to i just want to wack Ubuntu on c:
[03:51] <Younge> i have 3 partitions
[03:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Younge, just do manual and dont touch your win partition
[03:52] <MindTheGap_> VSpike, not sure i need to, because I already have loads os pcfs correctly loaded...
[03:52] <Younge> ok :) so wack it on "multimedia then"
[03:52] <VSpike> malky: if you can find the file (e.g. by find /mnt/cdrom -iname '*pppoe*') then you can install the package with "sudo dkpg -i <pkgname.deb>"
[03:52] <fuzzy_logic> hi people
[03:52] <cholera> Wow, I just installed VLC on my windows box, took less than 2 minutes, I've been trying to get VLC to work on my linux box for 2 weeks, hmmm
[03:52] <wastrel> Younge:  ubuntu will reformat whatever partition you put it on, you'll lose any data you have on there already
[03:52] <fuzzy_logic> is there a way to uninstall a package together with ALL its dependencies??
[03:52] <Hamm_sand> wow 2 weeks you must feel smart
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> cholera, 2 mins thats a long time took like 2 secs on my ubuntu install???
[03:53] <VSpike> fuzzy_logic: if you use aptitude, it will remove unused dependancies
[03:53] <cholera> Hamm_sand: sure do
[03:53] <the_mgt> hi. what do i have to do to get pcmiautils running if i get "No PCMCIA bridge module specified" when i try to start /etc/init.d/pcmciautils?
[03:53] <fuzzy_logic> VSpike: thanks :)
[03:53] <cholera> Paddy_EIRE: good for you, glad someone had some success
[03:53] <fuzzy_logic> VSpike: and if i reinstall a package, will it also reinstall the dependencies or not?
[03:54] <magnetron> fuzzy_logic: yes. apt-get autoremove
[03:54] <Hamm_sand> did you check your system/admin/synaptics package manager |   and install from there?
[03:54] <VSpike> fuzzy_logic: I don't like the "graphical" interface of aptitude particularly, but from the command line its very similar to apt-get only slightly easier
[03:54] <wastrel> graphical eh.
[03:54] <VSpike> fuzzy_logic: yes, any package manager will do that
[03:54] <wastrel> better than dselect
[03:54] <Younge> wastrel i have selected the partition and it saying select a root or something, do i need to delete the partition, edit? or what
[03:54] <optimistul> how do i know what aditional files were installed with some app?
[03:54] <VSpike> wastrel: true!
[03:54] <Younge> i have highlight the one i want to use now what do i do
[03:54] <Ledius> Hi
[03:55] <Ledius> i woul like to ask has any one here used freevo?
[03:55] <orbin> cholera: what's been the problem?
[03:55] <fuzzy_logic> VSpike: well.. synaptic doesn't, it only reinstalls the package itself..
[03:55] <Ledius> woul=would
[03:55] <cholera> it's funny how you never get a response when your looking for help, mention something about windows and they come out of the woodwork
[03:55] <fuzzy_logic> VSpike: does aptitude reinstall everything?
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, any other ideas
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[03:55] <kazol> VSpike: Does qvamps remove CSS and compress DVD images? While selecting titles does it include a preview?
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[03:55] <optimistul> found
[03:55] <wastrel> Younge:  you need to choose which will be the "root" partition for ubuntu. that's the main ubuntu partition.  this will erase the partition!
[03:56] <optimistul> how to delete dependencies?
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> someone kick this ass
[03:56] <cholera> orbin: not sure, it will not load, cant find the default skin to load, I checked and its there
[03:56] <VSpike> fuzzy_logic: I'm really suprised if synaptic doesn't.  But yes, every time I've used aptitude, it has always correctly pulled in dependancies
[03:56] <MindTheGap_> How do I add new fonts on Feisty? copied the fonts (*.pcf) to ~/.fonts ,issued a "mkfontdir" then a "xset fp+ ~/.fonts" then a "xset fp rehash" then a "fc-cache" but new fonts wont show up...
[03:56] <wedontneed> ubuntu.com really sends ubuntu cds free?
[03:56] <fuzzy_logic> VSpike: thanks
[03:56] <wastrel> !fonts | MindTheGap_
[03:56] <ubotu> MindTheGap_: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:56] <Hamm_sand> ouch
[03:56] <joe_t> hey all
[03:56] <cholera> orbin: main interface error: no suitable access module for `/home/tbuss/.vlc/skins2/default.vlt'
[03:57] <kazol> VSpike: Does qvamps remove CSS and compress DVD images? While selecting titles does it include a preview?
[03:57] <VSpike> kazol: Yes, pretty sure it does on all of those.  k9copy is pretty nice too
[03:57] <Paddy_EIRE> !qvamps
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qvamps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <orbin> cholera: is that from an error dialog or terminal output?
[03:57] <kazol> Vspike: I'll try it. k9copy did not work for me since it had some sort of "pipe" error with dvdauthor.
[03:58] <cholera> orbin: terminal
[03:59] <VSpike> kazol: it's in the repositories.  I haven't re-installed it since clean install of feisty, but will install now :)
[03:59] <JammasterJay> Hi there, my fonts look terrible! (fresh install drapper) is there something i can install to make them more....clear?
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> JammasterJay, go to system prefs then fonts
[04:00] <Younge> wastrel i have highlighted the partition i would like to use but i get the options edit and delete
[04:00] <Younge> do i need to delete it first then re create it?
[04:00] <afflux> any way to find out what bios revision i'm using?
[04:00] <JammasterJay> Is there a times roman font?...cuz i couldn't find it
[04:00] <VSpike> kazol: the reason I liked it was I had a particular task to solve: I'd ripped DVD's with DVDDecrypt in windows, and wanted to shrink and burn them, like I would with windows' dvdshrink... but couldn't find anything that would work with files from disk, rather than DVD.  Only thing that worked was qvamps.
[04:00] <wastrel> Younge:  you shouldn't.  i'm not actually very familiar with the installer.  i can't remember how that partitioner works.
[04:01] <orbin> cholera: installed via apt?
[04:01] <optimistul> is possible to clean not-needed dependence?
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> JammasterJay, install the ms fonts
[04:01] <JammasterJay> ok thx
[04:01] <cholera> orbin: yes, I also received this terminal output: no suitable access module for `/home/tbuss/.vlc/skins2/default.vlt'
[04:02] <orbin> cholera: try running with this option: vlc -I skins2
[04:03] <magnetron> Younge: resize the windows partition and create a new one for ubuntu. it is easy to do in the guided mode
[04:03] <VSpike> optimisul: "sudo aptitude autoclean --purge-unused" might do it
[04:03] <Paddy_EIRE> optimism_, use synaptic go to status and you will see obsolete packages for removall
[04:03] <hoss777> Hey all, quick question, I' have an old laptop with a broken CD-ROM, but that I would like to install Ubuntu on, Only problem is that bios does not see an external CDROM or USBKEY to boot from. any good floppy *nix's that might make this possable?
[04:04] <Younge> magnetron i heard partition a windows partition is not safe lol
[04:04] <Younge> but ill try
[04:04] <cholera> orbin: doesn't work, loads into the panel but never displays
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> hoss777, dsl
[04:05] <orbin> cholera: probably an ubuntu bug, but have you tried the vlc support options? http://www.videolan.org/support/index.html
[04:05] <Younge> magnetron im trying the gudied mode and i don't se no option to partition it just asking me to add a user :S
[04:05] <Pieter_> guys, i have a movie in .rmvb-format, and a codec. the codec is for windows, how do i install the codec on my ubuntu box?
[04:05] <hoss777> @Paddy_EIRE, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ that one?
[04:05] <Younge> do i carry on? coz i don't want to format or lose my data
[04:05] <optimistul> how to remove program dependencies?
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> hoss777, yep
[04:05] <VSpike> hoss777: http://www.toms.net/rb/
[04:05] <optimistul> becouse they harm my pc
[04:05] <orbin> cholera: at least to see what they have to say?
[04:05] <cholera> orbin: okay, thanks, it was working great up until today
[04:06] <magnetron> Younge: it is safe to RESIZE a windows partition. in the guided mode, choose how much space ubuntu will have
[04:06] <orbin> cholera: ?? so it broke recently?
[04:06] <hoss777> Thanks, Paddy and Vspike
[04:06] <cholera> orbin: is there a way I can config so that it doesnt look for skins2?
[04:06] <magnetron> optimistul: apt-get autoremove
[04:06] <wedontneed> ubuntu.com really sends cds without any payment?
[04:06] <cholera> orbin: it broke today
[04:06] <Gigi> In Spain there are developing a movie about Ubuntu (no kidding) Who knows spanish... go here http://www.elmundo.es/navegante/2007/05/12/tecnologia/1178968896.html?a=5df184bcec8ab842102b2500ef374763&t=1178974136
[04:06] <Younge> magnetron: i dont get the option to resize... or is that step 7?
[04:06] <gneale>  how do i get broadcom wireless .inf driver for ndiswrapper?
[04:06] <chainlynx> wedontneeded: yeah they take like 6 weeks to deliver tho
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> wedontneed, yes
[04:07] <magnetron> wedontneed: yes, but it may take some time
[04:07] <optimistul> thanks
[04:07] <optimistul> magnetron thanks
[04:07] <wedontneed> there isnt any cargo fee?
[04:07] <chainlynx> nope completely free
[04:07] <tiver> could somebody assist me with enabling network cards which are not recognized whilst setting up Ubuntu?
[04:07] <wedontneed> wow thats amazing
[04:07] <Paddy_EIRE> wedontneed, no, although they use child labour
[04:07] <orbin> cholera: i thought you were trying to fix it for two weeks?  -- i don't think you can steer clear of it looking for skins, but i'm no expert on the app
[04:07] <Paddy_EIRE> lol, just kiddin
[04:07] <wedontneed>  child labour?
[04:07] <magnetron> Younge: I don't remember the steps numbers... i know it's there though. you can back the procedure
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> wedontneed, was a joke
[04:08] <eAi> hi all, i'm a relatively new linux user and I want to install ubuntu onto an external USB hard disk, is this practical?
[04:08] <gerry_> tiver: what network card?
[04:08] <wedontneed> Paddy_EIRE: oh sorry my bad english i dont understand :D
[04:08] <tiver> gerry: thats the problem: i cannot figure it out from the screen
[04:08] <tiver> i guess its realtek but its quite old
[04:08] <orbin> gneale: think there's a link on the ndiswrapper site in the card list
[04:08] <chainlynx> eAi, very practical
[04:09] <tiver> though the whole PC is old - it recognized the rest
[04:09] <optimistul> anyone know, it is possible to install program from repo stand-alone without dependencies?
[04:09] <chainlynx> http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[04:09] <gerry_> tiver: type lspci and look at the output to find anything saying network card etc
[04:09] <Paddy_EIRE> optimism_, why
[04:09] <Andrew1BAt> buond
[04:09] <tiver> i did (slart told me to do so) but there is nothing that looks like a network card
[04:09] <cholera> orbin: I've installed, purged and removed several times, it has not worked consistently since I installed.  Sorry about the confusion, its seem like everytime I install and run, something new comes up
[04:09] <orbin> cholera: bah, forgot that was just your attention grabber. :P
[04:10] <Slart> gerry_: not even sure it's a pci card..
[04:10] <optimistul> Paddy_EIRE i want to install azures, but i already installed the Java Web Start 1.4 and i think the dependencies are no longer required..
[04:10] <tiver> well it worked good under Windows XP :D
[04:10] <Paddy_EIRE> optimism_, It should be fine, it would not auto download java
[04:10] <eAi> chainlynx: good! How can I go about repartitioning this disk - its got one NTFS partition that's about 10% full?
[04:10] <gerry_> tiver: your windows still working ?
[04:10] <chainlynx> the usb drive?  they are all fat32 i thought
[04:11] <gneale> orbin, got it BIG thanks
[04:11] <optimistul> Paddy_FIRE the dependencies are installed anyway
[04:11] <eAi> GParted doesn't seem to like the idea - I'm running the live CD at the moment
[04:11] <tiver> no, now its replaced with Ubuntu. THIS PC here is Windows
[04:11] <hoss777> 2
[04:11] <eAi> chainlynx, they come like that but I formated it as NTFS
[04:11] <CotH> hello people.  Could someone help me with a newbie-type problem?
[04:11] <optimistul> maybe the only way is to install azureus from official site
[04:11] <optimistul> =] 
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> optimism_, trust me it will make life a lot easier on you ;)
[04:11] <chainlynx> oh... i have no idea
[04:11] <gerry_> tiver:  demsg|grep ethernet
[04:11] <cholera> orbin: I'm looking at the link right now, I'll see what kind of damage I can do :} I appreciate your help
[04:11] <Slart> CotH: if it's really a newbie-problem... sure =)
[04:11] <eAi> CotH: generally the point is "dont ask to ask" ;)
[04:11] <chainlynx> i'm sure there's a way to do it, tho
[04:11] <optimistul> Paddy_EIRE, becouse the azureus crashes
[04:11] <orbin> cholera: good luck.
[04:12] <tiver> gerry: what?? demsg|grep ethernet
[04:12] <optimistul> then i had removed Java web start the program works fine
[04:12] <hoss777> @Paddy_EIRE, FYI DSL looks like it's 50mb. http://www.toms.net looks like it's the way
[04:12] <eAi> anyone else here know how to repartition a USB NTFS hard disk without losing everything?
[04:12] <Slart> tiver: run it in the terminal.. and it's dmesg | grep -i ethernet
[04:12] <gerry_> tiver:  demsg|grep eth
[04:12] <Hamm_sand> eAi:   use a program to resize it like there is 10,0000 of them
[04:13] <Hamm_sand> or burn everything to dvd's
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> optimism_, maybe you should try the one from their site then, you will probably have to build it from source, or you could get the rpm and try converting it to deb with alien to see if that helps
[04:13] <eAi> i'm trying to use gparted, its showing a "padlock" next to it
[04:13] <magnetron> eAi: for installing Ubuntu? the installer will give you the option to resize that ntfs partition
[04:13] <magnetron> eAi: unmount it first
[04:13] <eAi> the installer seems to hang at that step
[04:13] <eAi> it just sits there for like 10 minutes then I gave up
[04:14] <magnetron> eAi: you cannot resize a partition while it is in use
[04:14] <eAi> oh ok
[04:14] <VSpike> does anyone know where's a good place to get beagle support?  Is the dashboard hackers list good for user questions?
[04:14] <EmxBA> what's the best software for burning video DVDs?
[04:14] <CotH> Slart: WPA-PSK problem
[04:14] <optimistul> Paddy_EIRE in ubuntu repo there is lastest version of azureus , but dependencies are not the "fresh"
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> EmxBA, I find DeVeDe very good for that
[04:14] <cholera> orbin: used vlc -I winamp2 it at least displays so I can make changes
[04:14] <optimistul> i think so
[04:14] <optimistul> =] 
[04:15] <Slart> CotH: nggh.. that's not a newbie problem.. only pro's try that without goggles and protective clothing ;)
[04:15] <kazol> How do I find the path of the DVD\CD drives in the syntax "/dev/*"?
[04:15] <EmxBA> okay Paddy_EIRE
[04:15] <Slart> CotH: I have no idea..   I don't use wireless myself
[04:15] <CotH> Bugger
[04:15] <UbuntuMan> Hello, everyone.
[04:15] <EmxBA> and I need software do join two AVI files into one, because ripped DVD is splitted into two files of 700 MB
[04:15] <Paddy_EIRE> optimistul, have you tried installing of the site yet?
[04:15] <magnetron> CotH: i use WPA-psk with nm-applet. did you try that?
[04:16] <yellow_chicken> ~array
[04:16] <yellow_chicken> !array
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about array - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <tiver> gerry: sorry, either does not give out anything
[04:16] <LjL> kazol, you don't. you need to guess. my CD could be, for instance, /dev/hdb, if i have PATA and the CD is the primary slave
[04:16] <UbuntuMan> When I boot my computer in Ubuntu, NumLock is off by default.  How do I change that?
[04:16] <optimistul> Paddy_EIRE nope
[04:16] <tiver> is this vertical line right? |
[04:16] <eAi> bios normally
[04:16] <CotH> magnetron: That's Network-Manager, right?
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> optimistul, go for it cant do any harm
[04:16] <Slart> UbuntuMan: isn't that a BIOS setting... I seem to recall having an option in BIOS that says.. "Boot up numlock setting"
[04:16] <magnetron> CotH: yes, the thing in the upper right corner that comes bundled with feisty
[04:16] <gerry_> tiver:  you should know a bit about your pc :)
[04:16] <EmxBA> avidemux looks fine
[04:17] <tiver> what do you want to say
[04:17] <UbuntuMan> Slart, that's what I thought.  But I don't find it in the bios of this HP.
[04:17] <gerry_> where did you got your pc?
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> EmxBA, yeah apparently it is but I have no exp with that one
[04:17] <CotH> magnetron: ATM it looks like two monitors, one behind the other
[04:17] <Jeruvy> anyone know a place to look for upgrade hiccups?  My upgrade seems to have stopped at some point before it finished.
[04:17] <magnetron> CotH: click it
[04:17] <tiver> i can open it and find out about the model no thats not the problem, the pc is not mine
[04:18] <Slart> UbuntuMan: hmm.. then I don't know.. there might be some setting somewhere
[04:18] <UbuntuMan> WinXP starts with NumLock on by default, so I thought it might be a peculiarity of Ubuntu itself.
[04:18] <CotH> magnetron: when I click it, it shows my LAN card... underneath it shows (centre aligned) "Wireless Networks"
[04:18] <gerry_> tiver:  i mean you should know your pc vendor, and find info on it's webpage
[04:18] <CotH> magnetron: But that's not clickable
[04:19] <tiver> it wasnt a pc with all components bought within a package, it "evolved"
[04:19] <Paddy_EIRE> CotH, try wifi radar
[04:19] <CotH> Paddy_EIRE: Would that be in the synaptic package manager?
[04:19] <Riot777> I'm using xubuntu feistym and I installed artwiz fonts from ubuntu official repositories and I can't pick them in any program nor gtk configuration dialog in terminal etc. what should I done else to make them available, is this normal?
[04:19] <CotH> Paddy_EIRE: And will NM-Applet conflict with it?
[04:19] <UbuntuMan> Thanks, all.  I'll take another look at the BIOS.  Have a great day!
[04:20] <orbin> UbuntuMan: hang on
[04:20] <UbuntuMan> Orbin, yes?
[04:20] <tiver> so you mean i should check for support for the network card for linux/ubuntu on the side of the manufac
[04:20] <tiver> turer
[04:20] <orbin> UbuntuMan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[04:20] <UbuntuMan> Thanks!
[04:20] <Paddy_EIRE> CotH, you can use the add/remove if you want
[04:21] <gerry_> tiver: or you reinstall windows and got the network card info first and come here to find whether linux support your net card :)
[04:21] <Paddy_EIRE> CotH, not so sure if it conflicts
[04:21] <aoliax> hello, for some reason, in my taskbar, the trash icon never changes to tell me if there is any trash in the bin, and when my mouse hovers over it, it also says "no items in Trash," any ideas?
[04:21] <tiver> gerry: well its surely easier to open it and read the sticker
[04:21] <tiver> i will rather do so
[04:22] <gerry_> tiver:  hmm
[04:22] <magnetron> tiver: do lspci and post it to a pastebin
[04:22] <Dracula}X{> anyone know how to share internet connection over firewire with ubuntu??
[04:22] <CotH> Paddy_EIRE: I'm giving wifi-radar a try as we speak
[04:22] <Paddy_EIRE> CotH, nice one, fingers crossed
[04:22] <tiver> magnetron: okay.
[04:22] <CotH> Dracula}X{: Got a Mac>
[04:23] <orbin> aoliax: is it persistent or did it just happen?  try removing and then re-adding the trash applet
[04:23] <Dracula}X{> well the comp I am trying to share the net with is a hackintosh
[04:23] <tiver> gerry: where get i then the information from if it is supported?
[04:23] <MindTheGap_> wastrel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto wont work either... sudo apt-get install terminus worked flawlessly though...
[04:24] <Dracula}X{> I havent gotten a NIC that works with it so I figured share net through firewire with either xp or ubuntu.. however  would have to install xp on this machine *shudder*
[04:24] <magnetron> CotH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:25] <TasteeWheat> Firefox (that was installed with Ubuntu) gets very sluggish after the system is running for a few days.  I've closed and restarted firefox, to no avail.. even typing in it is slow.  Restarting the system fixes the problem but it comes back over time.  Any help on where to begin troubleshooting?
[04:25] <TasteeWheat> Now that I type it I wonder it there is some plugin that is causing problems
[04:25] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, no suggestions on my wireless issue?? been trying the forum and launchpad to no real success
[04:26] <dworkin> I have feisty and i want to install apache2 with ssl support, but the only apache in repos with ssl enabled is 1.3.34. how can i enable ssl in apache 2.2.3?
[04:26] <orbin> TasteeWheat: few days?  perhaps the dreaded memory leak thingo.  do you have a lot of extensions?
[04:26] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, is it possible to perform a reinstall of that driver?? perhaps something could have corrupted it??
[04:26] <aoliax> orbin: it is persistant
[04:27] <nom_> Hello
[04:27] <nom_> anyone here
[04:27] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah all 1234 of us
[04:27] <gerry_> tiver:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hardwaresupport
[04:27] <TasteeWheat> orbin: If it was a memory leak, would killing/closing it and restarting it fix the problem?
[04:27] <Dracula}X{> I've looked all over for anytghing that would help with ip over firewire for ubuntu, no luck yet.. maybe i havent been lookin in the right places..
[04:27] <magnetron> Paddy_EIRE: is it listed in /etc/network/interfaces? use pastebin
[04:27] <aoliax> orbin: no such error is happening to you?
[04:28] <Paddy_EIRE> 1 sec
[04:28] <nom_> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to run a .msi script, i want to install the Google Web Accelerator
[04:28] <orbin> TasteeWheat: i would think so.
[04:28] <TasteeWheat> orbin: Me too, but that doesnt seem to fix it.
[04:28] <orbin> aoliax: not that i know of.  try searching the forum,  i think i've heard it in here before
[04:29] <aoliax> ok thank you orbin
[04:29] <Dracula}X{> When I run Firestarter, should my firewire card be one in the list of eth* devices?
[04:29] <magnetron> nom_, .msi is windows software.
[04:29] <gerry_> nom_: try wine
[04:29] <nom_> Wine?
[04:29] <magnetron> !wine > nom_
[04:30] <nom_> Megnetron
[04:30] <nom_> If i get wine, can I simply run a windows program
[04:30] <TasteeWheat> Oh yes.. and I doublechecked, no extensions are installed...
[04:30] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20492/
[04:30] <magnetron> nom_, ask the channel
[04:30] <nom_> ok
[04:30] <nom_> If I install wine, can I just run a windows program
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> nom_, most of the time
[04:31] <Orkinfire> half the time, or less
[04:31] <TasteeWheat> lol, solution: Use Opera
[04:31] <gerry_> nom_:  just maybe
[04:31] <CotH> Paddy_EIRE: + magnetron: Still no joy with Wifi Radar
[04:31] <CotH> It's not picking anything up
[04:32] <delcoyote> good evening all
[04:32] <gerry_> nom_; or use virtual machine to run your windows programs
[04:32] <starkruzr> WINE, for the most part, is crap.  That's not the WINE project's fault, but crap it is anyway, more or less.
[04:32] <Paddy_EIRE> CotH, did you try manually typing the ssid and that
[04:33] <magnetron> CotH: you shouldn't need wifi radar to connect to network. the question is why the networks aren't clickable in network manager
[04:33] <gerry_> kvm or virtual box
[04:33] <sandeepiyengar> Good evening all...i am a newbie to fiesty..
[04:33] <MDCore> hey all. My machine died due to a power failure... and now neither mysql or samba wants to start. how can I find out what the problem is ?
[04:34] <lx_> Is there a way to input a custom resolution into ubunutu? My monitor is 1440by900 but its not in the options
[04:34] <CotH> I thought it said it was connected, so I pulled my cable out!
[04:34] <dromer> hmm, vlc seems to be a bit buggy lately, lot of audio-streams that are just messed-up (very noisy and stuff)
[04:34] <orbin> welcome sandeepiyengar
[04:34] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: thank you
[04:34] <magnetron> MDCore: bad luck. maybe your filesystem is damaged? try to use fsck
[04:34] <eAi> never had any real issues with VLC and audio that aren't to do with the source
[04:35] <MDCore> magnetron: yeah I did an fsck but it didn't help
[04:35] <eAi> sure you haven't got the EQ set up oddly?
[04:35] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: come with a problem or just watching? :)
[04:35] <Weirdbro> Help! I just installed Ubuntu! Neither my Intel Ethernet card or my Broadcom wireless work. How can I compile the drivers I find on the internet?
[04:35] <magnetron> MDCore: maybe the damage is severe?
[04:35] <sandeepiyengar> i have a problem in fiesty..after installing it..while booting
[04:35] <MDCore> magnetron: hmmm... hope not. trying that fsck again :)
[04:35] <dromer> eAi: I've had it on numerous sources, but mplayer and others seem to play fine
[04:35] <starkruzr> Weirdbro: Which Intel Ethernet card do you have?
[04:35] <sandeepiyengar> it just takes too long to boot..maybe 10mins
[04:36] <Weirdbro> I know how to compile them, but Ubuntu doesn't come with sources
[04:36] <sandeepiyengar> it doesnt even show the progress bar
[04:36] <eAi> dromer, checked the EQ settings?
[04:36] <Weirdbro> Intel Pro/100
[04:36] <gerry_> lx_: tweak your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:36] <starkruzr> Weirdbro: Integrated into your motherboard?
[04:36] <starkruzr> Is this a laptop?
[04:36] <Weirdbro> Yeah
[04:36] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: does it eventually boot?
[04:36] <sandeepiyengar> can u plz help me out of this problem
[04:36] <sandeepiyengar> ya..of course
[04:36] <dromer> eAi: hmm, no ,but I haven't changed anything, it's since the upgrade
[04:36] <Xala> Hiho
[04:36] <UbuntuMan> Okay, I have numlockx installed.  How do I find the lines to edit?
[04:36] <starkruzr> Weirdbro: Yeah it's a laptop?  Which one?
[04:37] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: but no clue of it booting
[04:37] <magnetron> sandeepiyengar: are you booting from the CD or the harddrive?
[04:37] <Weirdbro> Compaq V6000
[04:37] <starkruzr> That was your first mistake ;)
[04:37] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: you don't see the progress bar, what do you see?
[04:37] <starkruzr> OK, hold on
[04:37] <sandeepiyengar> magnetron: from hard disk
[04:37] <stockfisch> did anyone try the online update from 6.10 to 7.04?
[04:37] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: nothing..blank screen
[04:37] <ncd> wobbly windows really chew up res
[04:37] <kimda> hi
[04:38] <eAi> is the current ubuntu installer known to screw up NTFS partition resizing?
[04:38] <eAi> I've not got anything that important on it, but I'd rather not have it deleted
[04:38] <Paddy_EIRE> eAi, as far as I know no
[04:38] <xoB> Wich group is an Intel Celeron D 2.8 Ghz S775 ?
[04:39] <sandeepiyengar> Can anyone help me out with this problem
[04:39] <UbuntuMan> Orbin: I've installed numlockx.  How do I find the line(s) to edit?
[04:39] <lx_> anyone know how to add a screen resolution?
[04:39] <Xala> Hi guys i got a little little problem...yesterday i tried to install some applications...one of the apps was kinda old and triet to install some referrences and deinstalled some gnome apps....is there something like an all in one gnome paket that i can reinstall?
[04:39] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask
[04:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:39] <vm> hey guys, i am new to linux, and was wondering if there is tut somewhere that shows how to install things from a tar file, like making the install or w/e
[04:39] <Weirdbro> starkruzr: All fixes I can find for wifi require wired internet, which I don't have either
[04:39] <erUSUL>  !fixres > lx_
[04:39] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: does grub load (i.e. do you get that 10 second countdown and a list of boot options)
[04:39] <kimda> i've removed an ide harddrive from an 3ware array and replaced the drives with new ones. now i am trying to get the data off the old drive but it says that there are no partitions. any ideas?
[04:39] <NickGarvey> I'm trying to list all the *.cab files, without the extension .cab, I am trying to write a command to do this but its giving me "ambigious redirect" errors, here is the command   sed -e 's/\.cab//g' - < `ls *.cab`
[04:39] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: it does load the boot loader but after that only blank screen
[04:40] <starkruzr> Weirdbro: It doesn't make any sense to me that it doesn't work, as AFAIK the drivers for both these things are quite mature and should be included in the distribution
[04:40] <stockfisch> vm: you do not install tar files, you only unpack them. type "man tar" in the command line. this will help
[04:40] <magnetron> kimda: you need to put them back in the array to be able to restore them
[04:40] <orbin> UbuntuMan: alt+f2, then run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default ... that'll open a text file
[04:40] <xoB> Wich group is an Intel Celeron D 2.8 Ghz S775 ?
[04:40] <UbuntuMan> Orbin: Thanks!
[04:41] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: if i select windows it works properly
[04:41] <tiver> gerry and magnetron: ubuntu doesnt write to my floppy or zip, so i think i have to go back to windows
[04:41] <Xala> Hi guys i got a little little problem...yesterday i tried to install some applications...one of the apps was kinda old and triet to install some referrences and deinstalled some gnome apps....is there something like an all in one gnome paket that i can reinstall?
[04:41] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: only after i select ubuntu i see nothing..
[04:41] <jsizzle> someone is still using floppies and zip drives????
[04:41] <vm> stockfisch, i know that, what i mean is there are files in there, and all it says in instructions is to "make install"
[04:41] <starkruzr> Weirdbro: I'm looking for information about your drivers, wait one
[04:41] <M_42> anyone know how to force your monitor to turn off if the power management functions don't work
[04:41] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: after some 10mins it gets booted
[04:41] <eAi> I'm installing ubuntu and its repartitioning my NTFS disk (and hopefully keeping the existing data), is this what you'd expect to see at the "Read to Install" stage?
[04:41] <Weirdbro> starkruzr: The ethernet is possibly due to a faulty cable
[04:41] <xianghl> hi
[04:41] <eAi> The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[04:41] <eAi>  partition #2 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdb) as ext3
[04:41] <eAi>  partition #5 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdb) as swap
[04:42] <tiver> sorry the pic is only for office
[04:42] <erUSUL> Xala: ubuntu-desktop ??
[04:42] <jsizzle> Xala: you could try ubuntu-desktop
[04:42] <tiver> no need to update it
[04:42] <Xala> Ok thx guys i will try it now :)
[04:42] <Weirdbro> starkruzr: But I obviously can't have a faulty cable for broadcom wifi
[04:42] <asa-tyr-forsete> Hey there :)
[04:42] <asa-tyr-forsete> I'm sort of new to Linux... I've just installed Kubuntu Feisty Fawn and everything works great :) The only thing I'm wondering is, how to watch tv with my tv card... It is installed (I see /dev/video0) but I don't know how to watch it, and with wich software am I supposed to do it ?
[04:42] <Xala> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop?
[04:42] <stockfisch> vm: "make install" is another command, which will have to be executed after you have untarred the files. this will compile the program and install it
[04:42] <tiver> jsizzle: remember the small slice of people on the world who actually have access to the internet
[04:42] <UbuntuMan> Orbin: Done.  Now to reboot and see if it's fixed. :)  BRB
[04:42] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: i'd try playing with the boot options grub sets.  when you get the bootloader screen, press e to edit the ubuntu entry, then go to the kernel line, press e to edit that.  i'd first remove the word 'splash' (press enter to save the change) and see if that does anything
[04:43] <orbin> yep
[04:43] <vm> stockfisch is there a more indepth tutorial somehwer?
[04:43] <uNuTuLaN[yok] > .
[04:43] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: ya sure..thanks
[04:43] <uNuTuLaN[yok] > Hi
[04:43] <jsizzle> tiver: usb flash drives and blank cd's are so cheap I just didn't think anyone would use floppies anymore, I mean I can get a 2gb usb flash stick for $15
[04:43] <starkruzr> Weirdbro: OK, for starters, who told you you had Intel Pro/100 Ethernet on this machine?
[04:43] <Fr0Gs> Hey how come i cant talk on teamspeak and listen to music at the same time?
[04:44] <jsizzle> it's ridiculous
[04:44] <magnetron> Fr0Gs: that is hard to do in OSS, try using ALS
[04:44] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: that should hopefully give you some scrolling text which you can then use to find out what line it's taking so long at
[04:44] <starkruzr> Weirdbro: You have NVidia integrated Ethernet.  http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2798
[04:44] <magnetron> Fr0Gs: that is hard to do in OSS, try using *ALSA
[04:44] <MDCore> okay. I didn't actually fsck. how do I fsck my machien properly, without mounting the drive... ?
[04:44] <tiver> jsizzle: yeah, if i add up all the things i should add to this pc to make it workable, i could also buy a licence for vista and it works with this old pc ....
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[04:45] <starkruzr> Weirdbro: There's a forum post there about getting it to work.
[04:45] <fuzzy_logic> hi people.. are there good alternatives to vmware??
[04:45] <Weirdbro> starkruzr- My windows device manager told me that
[04:45] <magnetron> MDCore: try to do it from a boot disk, like the ubuntu cd or similar
[04:45] <starkruzr> Weirdbro: It apparently lies :p
[04:45] <stockfisch> vm: well, you could "man make" and have a look at it. make has lots of options, which are usually described in their respective program docs. sometimes one needs a "make config" before and sometimes "make install" ist all u need
[04:45] <erUSUL> fuzzy_logic: virtualbox ??
[04:45] <Zorlin> Fuzzy_Logic: Hmm, give me a second
[04:45] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: thank will try that and come back to u
[04:45] <MDCore> magnetron: thanks, will do
[04:45] <erUSUL> !virtualbox > fuzzy_logic
[04:46] <starkruzr> Weirdbro: You've got an NVidia chipset there.  Doesn't make any sense that you'd have Intel Ethernet.
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[04:46] <starkruzr> (Considering the AMD chip)
[04:46] <Fr0Gs> ok its installed
[04:46] <Fr0Gs> but how do i get it working
[04:46] <Fr0Gs> :S
[04:46] <UbuntuMan> Orbin: You're a genius.  But, then, you're mom always knew that. ;)
[04:46] <Weirdbro> It has a big intel sticker on the front of the laptop
[04:46] <jsizzle> vista eh? knock yourself out vista is terrible, I/O bug makes file ops take 5-6x as long as normal... no thanks... oh I get DRM free with vista! alright! I didn't want access to my media files anyway.. I think I should be paying subscription fees to keep the modifications on my photos!! </sarcasm>
[04:46] <starkruzr> ?!
[04:46] <starkruzr> Weirdbro: Dude, what?  What does it say?
[04:47] <griswald> hello, can anyone here help me
[04:47] <asa-tyr-forsete> Could anyone please help me ? I'm searching for a sofware that playing tv from a tv card, does anyone know one ?
[04:47] <starkruzr> Weirdbro: Centrino/
[04:47] <starkruzr> ?
[04:47] <LinuxHelp> How does one change the xdm desktop from xfce to openbox?
[04:47] <Fezzler> Is there a way to make the Desktop Effect Cube stay as a cube and then I can cycle through as opposed to holding down ctrl-alt-leftmouse
[04:47] <orbin> UbuntuMan: heh, spelt mum where i'm from.  and nah, i just asked ubotu :)
[04:47] <alexpe> hello, when i plug my camera the FS is not mounted automaticaly, any ideas?
[04:48] <UbuntuMan> Orbin:  LOL  Tell her, anyway.  She'll get a laugh. :)
[04:48] <XiXaQ> I'm installing postfix and it asks me to input a passphrase for smtpd.key. What is this used for? I'm wondering how I should choose my passphrase.
[04:48] <Fr0Gs> magnetron PM
[04:48] <tiver> jsizzle: well DRM is not a problem of Microsoft itself, rather a problem of the authors of the software or sold music. and i/o bugs?! well i dont want to promote vista but this was the problem i just had with ubuntu
[04:48] <griswald> i hope you guys don't mind my question
[04:48] <Gigi> In Spain there are developing a movie about Ubuntu (no kidding) Who knows spanish... go here http://www.elmundo.es/navegante/2007/05/12/tecnologia/1178968896.html?a=5df184bcec8ab842102b2500ef374763&t=1178974136
[04:48] <griswald>   deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org dapper main
     deb-src http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org dapper main these repositories are not working for Beryl anymore, i type apt-get update and it fails to update. Is there any other repositories i can use to finish the tutorial on installing Beryl
[04:48] <CyberRanger> MoShie
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[04:49] <UbuntuMan> Orbin: Thanks so much for the help.  Have a wonderful day (or evening, as the case may be).
[04:49] <erUSUL> !ops
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[04:49] <ubotu> CyberRanger: please see above
[04:49] <jsizzle> tiver: sounds like you need a visit from your friendly neighborhood hdparm manpage
[04:49] <starkruzr> CyberRanger: Stop spamming.
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[04:49] <scheuri> wow
[04:49] <fuzzy_logic> erUSUL: thanks :)
[04:49] <ducktape> a lot of movement here ...
[04:49] <erUSUL> LjL: thanks ;)
[04:49] <erUSUL> fuzzy_logic: no problem
[04:49] <starkruzr> What is the point of spamming that here, anyway?
[04:49] <vm> lol, anyone that thinks vista is better, can take there COSTLY slow piece of crap OS and stick it :P
[04:49] <Fezzler> new to Beryl, but not too impressed
[04:50] <jsizzle> tiver: at least bugs in ubuntu are fixable, I don't have to wait 6 months for M$ to start giving a fuck and releasing a service pack that introduces new problems
[04:50] <Fezzler> can someone suggest keystrokes or settings to wow me?
[04:50] <tiver> jsizzle: whoever you are talking about
[04:50] <TasteeWheat> Fezzler. move mous to top right of screen
[04:50] <vm> fezzler: THE MOFUCKIN CUBE
[04:50] <sHR00m> well, ubuntu.
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[04:50] <jsizzle> ban moshi
[04:50] <jsizzle> ban moshie
[04:50] <Fezzler> That's cool.  WHat else?
[04:51] <gneale> the cube rocks ctrl-alt-arrow
[04:51] <Fezzler> vm :)
[04:51] <Fezzler> vm - I got it going
[04:51] <jsizzle> Fezzler: glad to see you got it workin, you were ready to give up last night
[04:51] <vm> I deduced, how did you do it in the end?
[04:52] <starkruzr> Vista is really awful.  I wish I could still run Win2K.
[04:52] <jsizzle> starkruzr:  why can't you?
[04:52] <Fezzler> Why do I lose ability to resize screen when Beryl/Desktop Effects are started?
[04:52] <dwai> he
[04:52] <BigMac> Alright, I need help from somebody that has experience with wifi, because so far 4 different people and 3 guides haven't prevailed in getting wifi working here
[04:52] <Goldfisch> I thought this was the ubuntu channel? Is someone talking about Vista and Win2k? I must be in the wrong place!
[04:52] <Fezzler> and how do I make Cube smaller..its like full screen now
[04:53] <starkruzr> jsizzle: Didn't MS stop supporting it (and stop giving Windows Update updates) a while ago?
[04:53] <gneale> ubuntu terminal services rock. I put my work XP computer in it's place, desktop 6.
[04:53] <BigMac> And I am about ready to throw in the towel again
[04:53] <sHR00m> this is the biggest channel ive ever seen, heh
[04:53] <starkruzr> Goldfisch: Do you have a support question?
[04:53] <Fezzler> I still not convinced I have nvidia driver installed, or the right one
[04:53] <Cot1> For Wifi Radar, what do I need to put in the "Wireless Driver" section in the config panel?
[04:53] <Goldfisch> No. I was sarcastically referring to your comment about Vista and Win2k. Heh.
[04:53] <vm> Has anyone heard of a window manager called enlightenment?
[04:54] <jsizzle> starkruzr: yeah, but it still works decently.. XP is a better alternative perhaps since its still supported
[04:54] <sHR00m> vm: YES i use it, it rocks.
[04:54] <pulse> vm: yes
[04:54] <eAi> is there a way to make double-tapping on my laptop's trackpad work like it does on windows, namely so you can drag and drop?
[04:54] <jsizzle> if you ask me all windoze blows
[04:54] <Pelo> am I the only one missing the eject option from usb thumb drives mounted to /media (ie appearing on the desktop) since yesterday's hal upgrade ?
[04:55] <BigMac> Alright, I need help from somebody that has experience with wifi (specifically broadcom chip set), because so far 4 different people and 3 guides haven't prevailed in getting wifi working here
[04:55] <alef0> Is gnu tar able to archive socket files and other special files? I get a "socket ignored" for all sockets, and I can't find anything about it in the manual.
[04:55] <Goldfisch> Pelo: I just plugged in my flashdrive, and didn't see Eject, but instead Unmount Volume. It seemed to work.
[04:56] <magnetron> BigMac: we are all volunteers here. please provide as much relevant information about the problem as possible
[04:56] <starkruzr> meh.  AFAIC Win2K is the only time MS actually got it right with operating systems.  I'm sad it's not supported anymore (unless you're a giant corporation).  I run precisely one copy of Windows these days: XP in Boot Camp/Parallels on my Macbook Pro :p  Goldfisch: That's fairly normal.  For the purposes of closing the filesystem they're the same
[04:56] <nickybur> i'm having dependency issues when i attempt to install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config
[04:56] <vm> sHROOm so it runs ontop of gnome? or is it like a full replacement?
[04:56] <Pelo> Goldfisch, that was only the first part of the problem,  I seem to be having difficulties with my mp3 player  files just "jam" ,and I am wondering if it might be related
[04:56] <Goldfisch> alef0: Some things probably aren't tarable. Remember *nix systems use files for everything, even system processes like sockets and FIFOs. Some of these things just can't be archived.
[04:56] <Zorlin> Okay guys, I have a question. This machine has been running WinXP MCE until now, and its too slow. I've successfully managed to get TinyXP Rev05 to run Media Center, and I'm planning to reinstall using that [89.6MB page file usage on a VM with 128MB of ram is niiiice.] . However I don't know the best way to achieve this without too much data loss. Suggestions?
[04:56] <Zorlin> I mean, whats the best way to back it up etc. 60GB used/120
[04:57] <starkruzr> Zorlin: You're asking about running Windows inside a VM on Ubuntu?
[04:57] <Fezzler> does anyone else find that with Beryl installed, Terminal App loses menus...just a white box?
[04:57] <kkathman> vm,  http://www.enlightenment.org/
[04:57] <Zorlin> Stark: No, I'm talking about backing up my stuff and reinstalling windows...
[04:57] <sHR00m> Zorlin: maybe norton ghost on dvds..
[04:57] <kingcobra> hello
[04:57] <sHR00m> vm: get-e.org
[04:57] <vox754> BigMac, then I guess your specific chipset is really new. Also, I heard things may start to break if you use ndiswrapper with really new kernels
[04:57] <Goldfisch> starkruzr: Okay, fine. But what does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[04:57] <Zorlin> And then a dual-boot afterwards of course
[04:57] <griswald> someone please help me
[04:57] <Zorlin> however I don't have Ubuntu on here atm.
[04:58] <sHR00m> vm: no its a completely seperate desktop shell
[04:58] <starkruzr> Goldfisch: only the second half did :p
[04:58] <sHR00m> you can select it from gdm after install
[04:58] <Zorlin> sHR00m: Thanks, but that'll take years with 60GB...
[04:58] <BigMac> vox754, their is a guide on a site that was written explicitly for my laptop with several people having success, yet I am unable to connect to anything
[04:58] <starkruzr> sHR00m: does that work with kdm as well?
[04:58] <sHR00m> Zorlin: maybe you have a second harddisk? that would also work
[04:58] <Zorlin> sHR00m: I have a 120GB hard disk, with 60GB used at the moment... could I theoretically back it to a fat32 partition?
[04:59] <magnetron> Zorlin: you need SOMEWHERE to store those files
[04:59] <sHR00m> starkruzr: i dont know. if the e17 repository is good, then yes i think
[04:59] <Zorlin> Maybe resize my partition to 60GB, then copy stuff across the partitions?
[04:59] <Zorlin> reinstall and copy back?
[04:59] <BigMac> magnetron, all I really know is that it is a broadcom wlan card
[04:59] <sHR00m> you may find one in google
[04:59] <cdubya> bah, just upgraded to edgy and I can't figure out where in the world or how to get network-manager-gnome to work or even show up as an applet once installed......can someone tell me how you're supposed to get it to work on Edgy?
[05:00] <magnetron> Bigmac: did you check this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:00] <jsizzle> just upgraded to edgy? ya know feisty's out right?
[05:00] <Goldfisch> That is why I like RAID-1. At anytime (like last night), I can pull one drive out of the array and convert it to standy-by disk partition. I move files over there, do what I need to do on the main system, then pull them back. Finally, add the drive back the RAID-1 mirror, and I'm done! I always have enough disk space. :)
[05:00] <anandanbu> can somebody help me to copy the data to my external hard drive as i have a corrupted Xorg in my Ubuntu 7.04 and i can't boot into it
[05:00] <cdubya> jsizzle, obviously, yes, I know that.....I was quite content with Dapper, but decided it might be a nice time to reinstall clean since I haven't in quite awhile.....
[05:00] <vox754> Zorlin, is that a serious question? you've answered yourself
[05:01] <sHR00m> Zorlin: with norton ghost, yes you could
[05:01] <tinin> anandanbu sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:01] <kingcobra> what command shows all detected partitions
[05:01] <orbin> cdubya: make sure ou have the notification area applet on a panel, then run nm-applet
[05:01] <Zorlin> Okay shr00m thanks, but I dont... have that..
[05:01] <anandanbu> but now im using a Live CD for the browsing
[05:01] <jsizzle> anandanbu: sudo cp -R /home/username /path/to/target
[05:01] <Zorlin> I'll give it a shot. *sigh* One afternoon of backing up tomorrow =D
[05:01] <BigMac> magnetron, no the guide I used was on ubuntu1501.blogspot.com and it was in one of the first posts
[05:01] <jsizzle> anandanbu: and when you re-install use a seperate /home partition so you don't run into this prob again
[05:01] <cdubya> orbin, the notification area applet?
[05:02] <orbin> cdubya: the notification area applet
[05:02] <Zorlin> Anyone need any help btw? While I'm doin backups I'll answer questions.
[05:02] <weirdbro> Starkruzr: The ethernet problem was due to a faulty cable. Now I'm on Ubuntu. Any chance you could help with te Broadcom wireless problem?
[05:02] <anandanbu> can i give the command while still using the LIVE CD itself
[05:02] <magnetron> Bigmac: Then read this page. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:02] <Goldfisch> anandanbu: As root: rsync -avz /src /target
[05:02] <orbin> cdubya:right-click > add to panel if it's not there already
[05:02] <kingcobra> does anybody know what command shows all detected partitions
[05:02] <anandanbu> whats that for Goldfisch i cant get you
[05:03] <stockfisch> kingcobra: fstab
[05:03] <vox754> Goldfisch, are you using hardware or software RAID?
[05:03] <cdubya> orbin, that added the same one that controls the networking applet....but that's not the one I need.....I need the one that they added that supported WPA.....
[05:03] <Goldfisch> anandanbu: You need to mount the partitions, but after that, you can backup files.
[05:03] <weirdbro> Can anyone help with a wireless problem?
[05:03] <Goldfisch> vox754: Linux software RAID.
[05:03] <bulmer> anyone have a very good Registry tools for windows? the ones that can overcome policy of regedit restrictions?
[05:03] <mwales> kingkobra: df will show all the partitions and free space
[05:03] <M_42> does anyone here know how to force your lcd backlight to turn off... the power-management functions don't work
[05:03] <magnetron> !windows > bulmer
[05:03] <kingcobra> stockfisch, is that not just a text file that doesnt change
[05:03] <jsizzle> weirdbro: don't ask to ask a question, just ask and if we know we'll answer
[05:03] <Goldfisch> anandanbu: I was offering another way to recursively archive a whole tree of files using the rsync tool.
[05:03] <anandanbu> yeah i have mounted the partitions with the live CD and how do i copy it to my external drive Goldfisch
[05:04] <jsizzle> bulmer: fdisk
[05:04] <orbin> cdubya: not following you.  nm-applet supports wpa
[05:04] <vox754> Goldfisch, so a couple of SATA, and Linux RAID1 is accessible to any user
[05:04] <jsizzle> lol
[05:04] <anandanbu> basically iam a begginer and can you be liitle bit clear
[05:04] <BigMac> magnetron, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDell
[05:04] <Goldfisch> anandanbu: Is your external drive the same file system (ext3/reiser/whatever) as your source drive?
[05:04] <bulmer> magnetron most admin i know are closet windows admins, so they have the tools to break into windows..lolz
[05:04] <Goldfisch> vox754: I used the Ubuntu Alternate CD to install my system as root-on-LVM-on-RAID1.
[05:04] <stockfisch> kingcobra: correct, shame on me! use df instead for mounted partitions
[05:04] <anandanbu> yeah its an ext3 filesystem
[05:05] <BigMac> magnetron, I have the first item on the list, but it says it doesn't work in the checkbox yet it says it does afterwards with ndiswrapper
[05:05] <cdubya> orbin, I'm not getting anything there except a wired network option.....
[05:05] <Cot1> I think I need to install the driver for bcm43xx wireless card
[05:05] <Cot1> I know this because I used the lspci -n command and pasted the output in to a checking applet
[05:05] <anandanbu> i want a selected set of files to be copied to it from my hard drive
[05:05] <magnetron> BigMac: direct your questions to the channel, try to keep them on one line so that many will be able to read it
[05:05] <jsizzle> cdubya: does the wifi show up in ifconfig?
[05:05] <sujithnambath> hello ppl..i just installed ubuntu for the first time, with dual boot to XP, well i made a mistake of allocating very less space to XP, how do i transfer disk space from ubuntu to XP without reinstalling either OS? thanxs
[05:05] <Goldfisch> vox754: Yes, I have a pair of drive in all my machines. You can read the gory details at the https://scifi.homelinux.net/mediawiki/index.php/MythTV
[05:05] <cdubya> jsizzle, yep
[05:06] <cdubya> it worked fine when I was in Dapper pre-installation to Edgy upgrade
[05:06] <jsizzle> sujithnambath: gnome partition editor on livecd
[05:06] <Cot1> Can anyone advise me on how to install the driver for bcm43xx, please?
[05:06] <jsizzle> cotl: google bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:06] <sujithnambath> thanxs jsizzle
[05:06] <mwales> Cotl, what kinda computer?  Have you looked at ndiswrapper?
[05:06] <sujithnambath> i will check that out
[05:06] <pushpop`> Could anyone assist, I am not able to enable mysql in the php.ini file I uncommented the extension and it doesnt work.  http:/bompper.com:69 <-- my test php
[05:06] <kingcobra> does anybody know is there a command that shows all detected partitions, specifically unmounted partitions
[05:06] <jsizzle> sujithnambath: np
[05:07] <^Andrea^> qualcuno parla italiano?
[05:07] <magnetron> !ndiswrapper
[05:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:07] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: i tried it without using splash..it took few seconds at "checking the file systems"..then went on fast..but i tried again after using splash..it again took 10mins!!
[05:07] <Cot1> jsizzle: Ta
[05:07] <Goldfisch> anandanbu: rsync lets you provide patterns. You can do simple backups or complicated ones, depending on things. Last night I backed up /etc, /var, /video, and /home to a spare drive before upgrading to Feisty
[05:07] <ducktape> small Q: while playing mp3's Rhytmbox: the sound is not perfect (it clacks a bit); is their something I can do
[05:07] <mwales> kingcobra:  df
[05:07] <nickybur> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:07] <magnetron> !it | ^Andrea^
[05:07] <ubotu> ^Andrea^: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:07] <jsizzle> cotl: my dad has broadcom wifi, I tried fwcutter but gave up and use ndiswrapper
[05:07] <orbin> cdubya: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager see the configuring devices section
[05:07] <^Andrea^> tnx
[05:07] <bulmer> puhspop can you get to your mysql manually? is it up?
[05:07] <Fezzler> newbie irc question:  why do so many rooms have members but no one is chatting?  are they logged in and away or all in private im?
[05:07] <mwales> kingcobra:  nm.  Have you tried gpartd?
[05:07] <anandanbu> ok Goldfisch how do i do it then can you help me with it
[05:07] <Fezzler> or do I have a setting wrong\?
[05:07] <Cot1> jsizzle: Ah, so I need the windows drivers?
[05:07] <pushpop`> bulmer: yes I can
[05:08] <kingcobra> mwales, that only shows mounted filesystems
[05:08] <kirkunit> Fezzler: probably just idling. Logged in but not chatting.
[05:08] <BigMac> How would I go about removing the bcm43xx-fwcutter wifi drivers?
[05:08] <magnetron> Fezzler: they want to keep an eye on the channel, engage in chat when somethin interesting shows up
[05:08] <Goldfisch> anandanbu: What I did was 1. sudo su -  and then 2. rsync -avz /var /mnt/backup  3. Repeat that process for the other folders I wanted to backup (/etc, /home, and /video)
[05:08] <kingcobra> mwales, gparted keeps crashing when i look at the drive im interested in
[05:08] <jsizzle> cotl: yep, I used ndisgtk, tis the easiest way IMHO
[05:09] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: i tried it without using splash..it took few seconds at "checking the file systems"..then went on fast..but i tried again after using splash..it again took 10mins!!
[05:09] <anandanbu> can i do it while using the Live CD itself
[05:09] <Goldfisch> anandanbu: FYI, I'm going to have leave in a few minutes.
[05:09] <vox754> kingcobra, "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:09] <smooth_penguin> can a text mode install be done with the Feisty fawn?
[05:09] <nickybur> how would i write to a NTFS partition?
[05:09] <jsizzle> BigMac: add them to the list in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:09] <Fezzler> Is it normal that with Beryl / Desktop Effects loaded my apps loose their min/max/close buttons?  Terminal looses all menus, prompt..
[05:09] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: yes, i read that.  i was typing :) ... so running without splash works?  would you like to get rid of it so you get a fast boot, or try something else?
[05:09] <rustednail> Newbie question:  I want to install nVidia vid drivers, I followed nvidia's instructions but it reports that X-server must be stopped, How do I do that, or is there an alternative installation method?
[05:09] <Wooksta> when i enable desktop effects my window borders disapear but as soon as i disable the desktop effects they work again, can anyone help?
[05:09] <XLV_feisty> anyone has any more info about this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88045? hddtemp has problems here in feisty 64bit
[05:09] <kingcobra> vox754, thanks very much
[05:09] <Gruelius> compiz or beryl?
[05:09] <vox754> !alternate | smooth_penguin
[05:09] <ubotu> smooth_penguin: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[05:09] <anandanbu> just tell me wheher can i do it while using the live cd
[05:09] <Goldfisch> anandanbu: Certainly. You just have to mount the drives you want to move files from and to.
[05:09] <XLV_feisty> "sudo smartctl -T permissive -a -d ata /dev/sda" shows s.m.a.r.t. values, i find temp value, its 194, i add it into hddtemp.db. still sudo hddtemp /dev/sda gives /dev/sda: Maxtor 6L250S0                  : drive is sleeping
[05:09] <BigMac> jsizzle, how would I do that?
[05:10] <sandeepiyengar> i like to have the progress bar..
[05:10] <Fezzler> Wooksta: I have same issue
[05:10] <anandanbu> and i should provide the path of the drives is that so
[05:10] <cables> !alternate | smooth_penguin
[05:10] <ubotu> smooth_penguin: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[05:10] <jsizzle> BigMac: sudo vi /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:10] <anandanbu> and where can i find more about the rsync
[05:10] <jsizzle> BigMac: then read and understand
[05:10] <Fezzler> beryl in my case
[05:10] <Goldfisch> !rsync
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <jsizzle> anandanbu: man rsync
[05:10] <cables> !effects | Wooksta
[05:10] <smooth_penguin> vox754, can it be done with the disc with the graphical installer?
[05:10] <ubotu> Wooksta: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[05:10] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: if i cannot do anything then i would like to permanently get rid of splash
[05:10] <anandanbu> thansk jsizzle
[05:10] <cables> !effects | Fezzler
[05:10] <ubotu> Fezzler: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[05:10] <kingcobra> vox754, thats exactly what i want thanks
[05:10] <albert> i can not update my ubuntu 6 to ubuntu 7.04, what do i have to do?
[05:10] <vox754> smooth_penguin, NO
[05:10] <jsizzle> anandanbu: NP
[05:10] <Goldfisch> ubotu: rsync is a tool used to make backups. See also http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/documentation.html
[05:10] <tommy> im having problems with getting my D-Link DWL-510 to work with Feisty, it worked in edgy
[05:11] <linuxboy> rsync isn't just for backups
[05:11] <smooth_penguin> vox754, hrm ok well the gnome isnt starting up ... hence was wondering
[05:11] <linuxboy> rsync is also for mirrors
[05:11] <smooth_penguin> thank
[05:11] <smooth_penguin> +s
[05:11] <Fezzler> ok
[05:11] <cables> sandeepiyengar, do you want to get rid of your bootup splash?
[05:11] <Fezzler> off to effects
[05:11] <nickybur> how would i write to an NTFS partition?
[05:11] <orbin> rustednail: nvidia's instructions?  as in these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?
[05:11] <anandanbu> thanks Goldfisch
[05:11] <jsizzle> tommy: what wireless chipset does that card use?
[05:11] <Goldfisch> linuxboy: Okay, update ubotu's definition. I wanted to leave something for future users, so I made up that short definition in about 5 seconds. :)
[05:12] <cables> !ntfs | nickybur
[05:12] <ubotu> nickybur: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:12] <tommy> realtek 8180
[05:12] <linuxboy> Goldfisch: how do I do that?
[05:12] <albert> i can not update my ubuntu 6 to ubuntu 7.04, what do i have to do?
[05:12] <rustednail> Orbin: I used the ones from nvidia's download page, I'll check that link out, THANK YOU!
[05:12] <vox754> !bot | linuxboy
[05:12] <ubotu> linuxboy: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:12] <jsizzle> tomm: does it show up in ifconfig?
[05:12] <tommy> yes
[05:12] <tommy>         device (1186:3300) present (alternate driver: r818x)
[05:12] <sandeepiyengar> cables: i am not able to get that progress bar...so trying to restore it..and also taking very long time to boot
[05:12] <sHR00m> how do i get root access? just kidding :P
[05:12] <Goldfisch> anandanbu: Do you know how to use a terminal and mount disk drives?
[05:13] <cables> sandeepiyengar, alright... do you want to get rid of it then?
[05:13] <jsizzle> jsizzle: well that's the tough part, you should be able to use network-manager in gnome to configure it
[05:13] <sandeepiyengar> cables:ya..tell me
[05:13] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: ok, before you get rid of splash.  try forcing a vga mode.  edit the kernel line in the same way, remove splash, then add 'vga=791' on the same line (w/out the quotes)
[05:13] <tommy> well, ive tried that. Setting the ssid, and running dhclient
[05:13] <tommy> get no offers..
[05:14] <tommy> then i tried iwconfig wlan0 essid <myid>
[05:14] <cables> sandeepiyengar, hit alt-f2, and type gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:14] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: actually, don't remove splash
[05:14] <tommy> when running iwconfig afterwards, it still shows ESSID: off/any
[05:14] <jsizzle> tommy: I had a similar problem, commenting out the imaginary NIC's in /etc/network/interface seemed to work for me maybe try that
[05:14] <Goldfisch> tommy: I have problems with my wireless card and the only way to get it in line was disable apic in the kernel. I have a boot parameter "noapic". I have no idea if that helps your situation. Just one nugget of knowledge. (Atheros chipset).
[05:14] <vox754> latest stable ndiswrapper is 1.43
[05:15] <nickybur> !fuse
[05:15] <anandanbu> Goldfisch i need some help its a bit tricky
[05:15] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:15] <jsizzle> Goldfisch: noapic eh.. what cpu?
[05:15] <cables> !ntfs-3g | nickybur
[05:15] <ubotu> nickybur: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:15] <Goldfisch> jsizzle: amd64. Can't remember the model.
[05:15] <cables> nickybur, ntfs-3g is fairly safe at this point.
[05:15] <Fezzler> cable: I see 105 people in #effects but no scrolling conversations?
[05:15] <digital_k> hi all
[05:15] <weirdbro> I installed ndiswrapper from the ubuntu repositories. Where can I find the firmware for my wireless card?
[05:16] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: what should i check out in the vga mode?
[05:16] <Fezzler> do I have a setting wrong on gaim
[05:16] <Goldfisch> anandanbu: I'm gonna have to go. Ask one of the others to help you mount the disk and use rsync to backup some files.
[05:16] <cables> Fezzler, no, it's just that fewer people are in there
[05:16] <Goldfisch> See ya later guys.
[05:16] <jsizzle> damn I got lots a farts this morn
[05:16] <Cot1> jsizzle: I got ndisgtk installed, and I put the windows drivers on.  It says "Hardware Present" which seems like a good sign!  What do I need to do now?
[05:16] <cables> sandeepiyengar, do you have a text editor open now/
[05:17] <jsizzle> cotl: if it's a broadcom card you have to blacklist bcm43xx
[05:17] <Cot1> jsizzle: Come again?
[05:17] <digital_k> i cant get my wireless linksys usb access point to work either
[05:17] <digital_k> i gave up on it
[05:17] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: you need to decide whether or not you want to try it.  cables is willing to walk you through removing it altogether
[05:17] <orbin> *disabling it rather
[05:17] <jsizzle> cotl: is it a broadcom NIC? was the driver like bcmwl5.sys or similar?
[05:18] <sandeepiyengar> cables:i dont have any text editor open
[05:18] <vox754> !tab | jsizzle
[05:18] <ubotu> jsizzle: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[05:18] <raintheory> anyone think they can help me with a HFS+ mounting issue?
[05:18] <Fezzler> I know this is off topic, but does Desktop Effects eliminate the min/max/close buttons and some menus by design because the other tools in Beryl can do the same thing or am I having an install / setting issue? /ga
[05:18] <digital_k> no it doesnt fezzler
[05:18] <Cot1> jsizzle: bcmwl5a
[05:18] <cables> Fezzler, it's not really that oftopic, and that's a bug, not a feature.
[05:18] <digital_k> they are still there with it enabled that i have seen
[05:18] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: i will try to restore the progress bar..but if doesnt work finally i will remove it
[05:18] <Paddy_EIRE> magnetron, still no further forward
[05:18] <sorsis> is it possible to get americas army, enemy territory as ubuntu packages?
[05:19] <Paddy_EIRE> sorsis, no the devs are to lazy
[05:19] <jsizzle> Cot1: sudo echo "blacklist bcm43xx" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:19] <anandanbu> can someone help me out with the mounting of drives using the terminal and rsync to backup my data
[05:19] <Lightenix> hello,  anyone can tell me how to copy some file from server (to which i am connected via ssh) to local hard drive?
[05:19] <cables> Fezzler, there's a way to fix that bug, but I'm not sure how... people in ubuntu-effects will know, if they're there.
[05:19] <cables> Fezzler, also try #beryl
[05:19] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: if you want to try something else, edit the kernel line as before, and add vga=791 to the end of it (leave splash), then boot
[05:19] <jepp> Has somebody a GeForce N7600 GS?
[05:19] <beanie> if i want to start the live-cd and click "install ubuntu" the monitor will be black, nothing happens, whats the problem for that?
[05:19] <soundray> jsizzle: that won't work
[05:19] <tommy> thank you it worked
[05:19] <jsizzle> Lightenix: scp
[05:19] <Fezzler> thanks cables:  SO it I value the practical utility of being able to resize windows and having the min/max/close buttons I should remove Desktop Effects and Beryl
[05:20] <jsizzle> soundray: why not?
[05:20] <cables> Fezzler, no, there is a way to fix it!
[05:20] <ducktape> what do you guys use for mp3's on gnome?
[05:20] <tommy> clear
[05:20] <jsizzle> tommy: np
[05:20] <raintheory> does this mean i'm screwed?   "[ 2707.492978]  hfs: unable to find HFS+ superblock"
[05:20] <Lightenix> ohh oki, thanks
[05:20] <digital_k> beanie you could select the safe graphic mode option upon boot
[05:20] <soundray> jsizzle: because the redirection is not done as root
[05:20] <kirkunit> Lightenix: exit ssh. Then scp user@server:/path/to/file ./
[05:20] <digital_k> that will fix it perhaps
[05:20] <Fezzler> I mean I like the cool Beryl effects and bought a new graphics card yesterday to be able to use them, but not at the loss of some basic features
[05:20] <cables> Fezzler, just go to #ubuntu-effects and ask, and hopefully they'll tell you.
[05:20] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: ok..will try that
[05:20] <Cot1> jsizzle: I didn't get any return on that command, is that normal?
[05:20] <vox754> Fezzler, what do you think? it is buggy still, wait a few years, donate for the project, and that's all you can do
[05:20] <beanie> digital_k: ok i try
[05:21] <raintheory> i've had too many mounting issues with feisty thus far
[05:21] <digital_k> the thing that comes with ubuntu now is compiz , fezzler
[05:21] <Fezzler> vox: thanks.  new to all this
[05:21] <Kohvihoor> What values should go into HorizSync, in Xorg.conf, for 75Hz ?
[05:21] <jsizzle> Cot1: sudo grep bcm43xx /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:21] <digital_k> beryl works better IMO.
[05:21] <Kohvihoor> Right now it is HorizSync	30-68
[05:21] <anandanbu> thank you all for your help i'm leaving bye
[05:21] <Fezzler> I have compbiz too
[05:21] <TasteeWheat> Fezzler: You dont have Min/Max buttons with Beryl?
[05:21] <orbin> ducktape: beep-media-player is good enough for me
[05:21] <soundray> jsizzle sudo sh -c 'echo "blacklist bcm43xx" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43xx' will work and is better
[05:21] <TasteeWheat> Fezzler: How did you pull that off?
[05:21] <aventin> i'm a recent convert, and i just have a question: why does ubuntu feel so slow when browsing files? I'm on a 2 ghz pentium m, and entering a local folder on windows is instantaneous while ubuntu needs a couple of seconds to display the files. is this my system, or is this to be expected?
[05:21] <Fezzler> tasteew: yes, that is the issue
[05:21] <jsizzle> soundray: thx
[05:21] <digital_k> compiz comes in 7.04 disabled by default
[05:21] <XLV_feisty> Kohvihoor, depends on the horizontal range of your monitor also, if in a certain res it will output 75Hz
[05:22] <Fezzler> with Beryl installed and running, I lose all window resizing,  Apparently a bug being worked on.
[05:22] <TasteeWheat> Fezzler: Did you switch to a new Theme?  I have beryl and I have min/Max buttons and Resize on all windows
[05:22] <znejk> is it possible to run shockwave in linux?
[05:22] <Kohvihoor> XLV_feisty, vertical is: VertRefresh	50-75
[05:22] <jsizzle> Cot1: did you do the grep? is "blacklist bcm43xx" the response?
[05:22] <digital_k> beryl gave me lots of artifacts when it was running , around the windows, etc
[05:22] <cdubya> !network-manager
[05:22] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[05:22] <dougie> is there a way to play drm'd video files?
[05:22] <Kohvihoor> I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:22] <digital_k> but my laptop has integrated ati graphics...so that was iffy anyway
[05:22] <Fezzler> Tastee: Well, yes I have a OS X Theme from gnome art installed
[05:23] <Fezzler> I like that look
[05:23] <digital_k> dougie: from where?
[05:23] <jsizzle> osx is PHAT
[05:23] <vox754> aventin, oh please don't say things like that, everyone experiences different performance...
[05:23] <TasteeWheat> Fezzler: Try going back to the original theme
[05:23] <soundray> aventin: I find that annoying about nautilus. It gets a bit faster when you disable icon preview.
[05:23] <orbin> cdubya: still having issues?
[05:23] <Kohvihoor> I did setup my reolutions and whatnot, but monitor only showed 1024x768@70Hz
[05:23] <magnetron> znejk: no, adobe do not like linux that much
[05:23] <Cot1> jsizzle: I got this: blacklist bcm43xx
[05:23] <Cot1> blacklist bcm43xx
[05:23] <Fezzler> Taste okay
[05:23] <dougie> digital_k, its a wmvhd file
[05:23] <digital_k> hmmm
[05:23] <zBoy> #ubuntu-se
[05:23] <digital_k> i dont think its possible, but someone else may know.
[05:23] <XLV_feisty> Kohvihoor, and the horizontal range?
[05:23] <beanie> digital_k: it happens the same with "safe graphics mode"
[05:23] <orbin> aventin: accessing windows files you mean?
[05:24] <jsizzle> Cot1: ok looks like my command worked! (sticks out tounge at soundray ;)
[05:24] <digital_k> beanie what are the specs of the machine ?
[05:24] <Kohvihoor> 30-68
[05:24] <MDCore> magnetron: the fsck eventually fixed the mysql by the way. thanks!!!
[05:24] <digital_k> memory amount, specifically and cpu
[05:24] <jsizzle> Cot1: ok now give her a reboot
[05:24] <Kohvihoor> But somehow i think it is not right.
[05:24] <magnetron> MDCore: great!
[05:24] <aventin> vox754: what's that supposed to mean? i'm just saying that it's very slow for me, and i wanted to know if this was "normal" with nautilus.
[05:24] <beanie> digital_k: graphicscard is (windows tells me)  Intel(R)82815 Graphics Controller
[05:24] <Cot1> jsizzle: The command itself might have worked, but I just pulled out the ethernet cable and no internet via Wifi!
[05:24] <Kohvihoor> I think i'll try to reconfigure it one more time.
[05:24] <jsizzle> Cot1: you have to reboot first
[05:24] <digital_k> beanie do you know how to boot into the BIOS?
[05:24] <beanie> digital_k: its a sony vaio PCG FX 203
[05:25] <Cot1> jsizzle: Is Ctrl-Shift- Backspace okay?
[05:25] <tarzeau> anybody play bub-n-bros.sf.net now?
[05:25] <jsizzle> Cot1: then config your wifi
[05:25] <digital_k> you could try that and set the memory amount a little highter
[05:25] <soundray> Cot1: are you running in a root shell?
[05:25] <Cot1> jsizzle: Config the wifi where?
[05:25] <jsizzle> Cot1: no, full reboot
[05:25] <beanie> digital_k: yes, what should i change?
[05:25] <digital_k> video ram setting
[05:25] <digital_k> in bios
[05:25] <jsizzle> Cot1: config it in gnome with network-manager
[05:25] <digital_k> its probably at default, which is a low amount
[05:25] <Cot1> Okay, rebooting then I'll be back
[05:25] <Fezzler> Taste: I switch to Human default
[05:25] <digital_k> set it as high as it will go
[05:25] <Fezzler> I have buttons back but Beryl stopped
[05:25] <beanie> digital_k: iam searching...
[05:25] <digital_k> or wht you are comfortable with allocating to it
[05:26] <aventin> orbin: no, just browsing files on my ubuntu disk. opening my home folder, stuff like that. from the time i hit enter (och double-click) there's a two-three secods delay to when the files are shown. and when i'm going down like 10 levels of folders, thats VERY slow.
[05:26] <TasteeWheat> Fezzler: Restart Beryl then
[05:26] <eAi> hi all I've just installed Ubuntu, but I restarted and Grub is giving error 21 (disk not found), i'm not sure why (I've installed on an external Hard Disk)
[05:26] <digital_k> i went from 6.10 to 7.04 and the 7.04 version is a tad more graphics heavy on the same machine for me
[05:27] <Fezzler> Taste: Did and buttons are gone :)
[05:27] <TasteeWheat> lol
[05:27] <XLV_feisty> Kohvihoor, whats the monitor you use? 30-68 is a low upper end range, maybe the monitor just cant do any better than 1024x76@70 or 1280x1024@60
[05:27] <fiXXXerMet> Ubuntu isn't letting me eject the first WoW disk, when the installer is asking for the second.
[05:27] <kryptonite-> HELP, i have no icons on my tool bar except the clock , what do i do ?
[05:27] <aventin> orbin: my comparison to windows was just because winows is instant - as soon as i press enter (or double-click) *boom* it's there.
[05:28] <Fezzler> Beryl manager>Select Window Manager>Beryl
[05:28] <Kohvihoor> C700, fujitsu siemens.
[05:28] <eAi> anyone here know about Grub?
[05:28] <TasteeWheat> Fezzler: For me:  Window Manager = Beryl, Window Decorator = GTK Window Decorator
[05:28] <Kohvihoor> Normal for it is: 1152x864@75Hz
[05:28] <orbin> aventin: hmm, i wouldn't say that's normal.  i'm on a 1.6 sempron and it's almost instant.
[05:28] <soundray> eAi: how is the disk connected?
[05:28] <eAi> usb
[05:28] <cdubya> ((((( help ))))) ...... network manager isn't recognizing my wireless adapter......followed the wiki verbatim....still no joy.
[05:28] <eAi> 2
[05:28] <Kohvihoor> I worked fine in debian, and every other distro.
[05:28] <Kohvihoor> And windows.
[05:29] <gilang27> hi
[05:29] <eAi> I can't say I have any experience with bootloaders
[05:29] <gilang27> anybody knows about beryl?
[05:29] <jsizzle_> aventin: I'd bet you haven't config'd hdparm. slow drive access time is prob the issue
[05:29] <tommy> [11~
[05:29] <soundray> eAi: it's not the bootloader's problem
[05:29] <TasteeWheat> Fezzler: and as far as I can tell Im not using any theme
[05:29] <cornell_> I"ve a lapton, Pentium III, 256 Meg...  Too small for feisty?
[05:29] <eAi> bios?
[05:29] <jsizzle_> !beryl
[05:29] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:29] <soundray> eAi: yes
[05:29] <eAi> not loading the USB disk?
[05:29] <XLV_feisty> Kohvihoor, what res you were getting in debian or windows? from what i see, your monitor is a 17" that can do 1280x1024@65 max
[05:29] <zaggynl> Whenever I record sound with my microphone, it is accompanied by a beeping sound
[05:29] <MDCore> cornell: depends on what WM and software you run
[05:29] <gilang27> im havin problem with beryl
[05:29] <vox754> eAi, well, booting off external hard disks may be tricky and depends on the motterboard, maybe there is no way to do it with your current BIOS
[05:29] <CotH> jsizzle: I've just checked nm, and I only see ethernet connections; no WLAN ;(
[05:29] <Kohvihoor> Yes, that's right.
[05:30] <aventin> orbin: if i select a folder (with like 10 files in it), select in an then press [enter]  it is like 1,5 - 2,0 seconds before the files show. is that somewhat what you experience?
[05:30] <MDCore> cornell_: I'm running a p3-600 desktop using icewm
[05:30] <eAi> vox754, thats annoying then
[05:30] <cornell_> Gnome, from the liveCD. MDCore
[05:30] <eAi> don't have enough hard disk space internally
[05:30] <cdubya> CotH, heh, same problem here.....
[05:30] <Fezzler> Taste - you must be using some theme
[05:30] <Kohvihoor> XLV_feisty, 1152x864@75Hz was fine.
[05:30] <soundray> eAi: you may be able to set the BIOS to make that drive bootable. If not, you can still setup the system on the external disk, but install grub on the internal.
[05:30] <jsizzle_> CotH: dmesg | grep -i ndiswrap
[05:30] <eAi> soundray
[05:30] <eAi> thats what I want really
[05:30] <TasteeWheat> Fez: I go to them manager, see a bunch of them, none are selected and none look like my windows
[05:30] <orbin> aventin: no.  i can open a folder with 20 thumbnailed videos and it loads in less than a second
[05:30] <eAi> because I don't always have this disk connected
[05:30] <jsizzle_> CotH: any errors loading ndiswrapper?
[05:31] <Fezzler> Tastee: can you walk me thru your settings?
[05:31] <cornell_> MDCore: just need to use Gaim and Firefox... stay connected while on vacation ;-)
[05:31] <Kohvihoor> Right now the resolusion is the one i want (1152), but refreshrate seems a bit odd, imo.
[05:31] <eAi> problem is the internal disk is NTFS - is that an issue?
[05:31] <orbin> aventin: jsizzle_ may be on to something.  is the drive ide?
[05:31] <MDCore> samba question: my samba daemon still won't start. tailing /var/log/samba/log.smbd says thinks like smb_panic() ... that doesn't sound happy
[05:31] <MDCore> what can I do ?
[05:31] <aventin> orbin: strange, i wonder what's wrong then. i'm on a newly installed system.
[05:31] <rausb0> cornell_: you could try xfce (xubuntu) instead of gnome
[05:31] <soundray> eAi: you should resize the internal NTFS partition and make space for a small /boot partition (100-500MB).
[05:31] <skar> hi, my ff2 doesn't recognize a cacert signed ssl site, even cacert's https site has a warning that issuer is unknown, is there any other free providers included in ff2 by default?
[05:31] <usser> MDCore: make sure your smb.conf contains no junk
[05:31] <vox754> eAi, soundray just beat me, but yeah, you only need to install grub on the internal disk.
[05:31] <eAi> ok, using GParted?
[05:32] <XLV_feisty> Kohvihoor, dont knoe about odd... you can always add a modeline inside xorg.conf to define the res to your liking
[05:32] <eAi> and is it fairly easy?
[05:32] <soundray> eAi: that would be a good way
[05:32] <TasteeWheat> Fez:  Aha.. thats it.. Im not using Emerald of any window decorator
[05:32] <CotH> jsizzle: Sent you a PM as the output is looooong
[05:32] <cornell_> rausb0: Install from the alternate and ask for xubuntu, or is that a different CD (ISO)
[05:32] <TasteeWheat> Fez: Can you see where to select window decorator?
[05:32] <cornell_> Distro
[05:32] <Kohvihoor> XLV_feisty, how do i do that?
[05:32] <soundray> eAi: easy if you know the device names etc.
[05:32] <usser> MDCore: the best would be backup your /etc/samba/smb.conf and create an emty smb.conf there insted
[05:32] <Fezzler> Tastee: Yes
[05:32] <Fezzler> I am not using any Emerald Themes Either
[05:32] <XLV_feisty> !modeline > Kohvihoor
[05:32] <eAi> soundray, I'll do the resizing now then go from there
[05:32] <eAi> thanks
[05:33] <TasteeWheat> Which are u using?
[05:33] <TasteeWheat> Fez:Which are u using?
[05:33] <rausb0> cornell_: you could install from the alternate cd or from the xubuntu live cd
[05:33] <Fezzler> I installed OS X theme via System > Pref > Themes
[05:33] <Kohvihoor> Thanks. ^^
[05:33] <RTFS> somebody can help me with amsn?
[05:33] <orbin> aventin: open a terminal
[05:33] <cornell_> rausb0: K, thanks...  It was enough hardware for Dapper
[05:33] <rausb0> cornell_: there is also a nice netinstall cd (8mb iso only)
[05:33] <jsizzle_> CotH: I didn't get the pm
[05:33] <soundray> eAi: make a backup of your NTFS, that's good practice anyway. Good luck.
[05:33] <Fezzler> Downloaded it from gnomeart
[05:33] <RTFS> I installed it by repository
[05:33] <aventin> orbin: i think a 2 ghz pentium m with 1 gb of ram would be sufficient to browse files? ;)
[05:34] <diminthedam> i am upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04 and its stuck on 100% doing the ntp upgrade. should i restart or keep waiting?
[05:34] <orbin> aventin: i'd agree.  open a terminal.
[05:34] <aventin> orbin: terminal open
[05:34] <CotH> jsizzle_: Didn't put the underscore in
[05:34] <RTFS> and now when I try to login it ask for TLS
[05:34] <cornell_> Assuming it will recognize my belkin wifi, rausb0, which the Livecd does.
[05:34] <MDCore> usser: that actually did it thanks. I had been fiddling and it had worked before. I was sharing over hamachi. but that seemed to stop it from working. I removed the interface option and it's happy now. thanks !!
[05:34] <RTFS> but I've install it!
[05:34] <orbin> aventin: do you know what device /home is mounted on?
[05:34] <rausb0> cornell_: no ethernet?
[05:34] <TasteeWheat> Fez: Hmmm... your on Human like me...
[05:34] <soundray> diminthedam: how long have you waited?
[05:34] <TasteeWheat> *loud
[05:35] <diminthedam> soundray: about 15 minutes now - the window looks frozen
[05:35] <aventin> orbin: everything is on the same hd, sda1 i persume? (i'm truing to get the linux lingo: sda1, yes?)
[05:35] <TasteeWheat> Fez: You are using GTK decorator?
[05:35] <usser> MDCore you're welcome first thing to check if something doesnt work is the changes u made thats my motto =)
[05:35] <jsizzle_> CotH: I still don't have your pm resend it
[05:35] <soundray> diminthedam: I'd force a reboot then. Run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' afterwards. If it doesn't work, go to Recovery mode and run 'dpkg --configure -a'
[05:36] <MDCore> usser: yes. I should have tried undoing them. I assumed that because it had worked before.... but like I always say: when you assume you make an ass out of u and me. Just me in this case though ;)
[05:36] <Kohvihoor> XLV_feisty, do i put that modeline in "monitor" section?
[05:36] <diminthedam> soundray: alright...fingers crossed
[05:36] <CotH> jsizzle_ : Sod it.  I'm pasting it here
[05:36] <vox754> aventin, the graphical interface may be getting slow if your graphics driver isn't set correctly. For instance, should you have "vesa" but actually need "ati"
[05:36] <CotH> [17179594.908000]  ndiswrapper version 1.22 loaded (preempt=no,smp=yes)
[05:36] <CotH> [17179594.940000]  ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:129): loadndiswrapper failed (32512); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[05:36] <CotH> [17179594.940000]  ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:136): ndiswrapper: initialization failed
[05:36] <CotH> [17179594.992000]  ndiswrapper version 1.22 loaded (preempt=no,smp=yes)
[05:36] <CotH> [17179594.992000]  ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:129): loadndiswrapper failed (32512); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[05:36] <usser> MDCore :)
[05:36] <CotH> [17179594.992000]  ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:136): ndiswrapper: initialization failed
[05:36] <orbin> aventin: sda1 would be one partition, yes.  is the drive ide?
[05:36] <CotH> [17179595.024000]  ndiswrapper version 1.22 loaded (preempt=no,smp=yes)
[05:36] <vox754> !ops
[05:36] <CotH> [17179595.028000]  ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:129): loadndiswrapper failed (32512); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[05:36] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[05:36] <CotH> [17179595.028000]  ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:136): ndiswrapper: initialization failed
[05:36] <CotH> [17179595.060000]  ndiswrapper version 1.22 loaded (preempt=no,smp=yes)
[05:36] <usser> CotH ot paste here
[05:36] <CotH> [17179595.064000]  ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:129): loadndiswrapper failed (32512); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[05:36] <usser> !!
[05:37] <XLV_feisty> Kohvihoor, yes, and name it something like "1152x864mine" or something, to differenciate it from the standard "1152x864"
[05:37] <nixternal> hrmm, not what I wanted to do
[05:37] <aventin> vox754: i have the lastest intel-xorg drivers for my i915.
[05:37] <soundray> diminthedam: what I just said was ambiguous -- are you okay with the advice?
[05:37] <aventin> orbin: yes, it's an ide drive
[05:37] <Fezzler> Tastee: I may give up on Beryl until Window bug is resolved
[05:38] <cornell_> rausb0: ethernet, by wire... not too convenient.
[05:38] <XLV_feisty> Kohvihoor, then is section "Display" where it defines your monitor, add the "1152x864mine" in Modes line
[05:38] <orbin> aventin: type in: sudo hdparm -d /dev/sda
[05:38] <usser> Fezzler beryl is still alpha so
[05:38] <ethereality> How do I disable this keyring feature? I'm sick of unlocking it every time I want to log on to our wireless home network.
[05:38] <usser> Fezzler feels like aplha
[05:38] <jsizzle_> how long does a flood ban last in this chan?
[05:38] <TasteeWheat> Fezzler: do you have latest version?
[05:38] <rausb0> cornell_: only for for installing
[05:38] <orbin> aventin: that should check if dma is enabled
[05:38] <TasteeWheat> Fezzler: I ask because it works like a dream over here.
[05:39] <salty-horse> hi. how can I discover wireless networks? Do I have to enter one manually?
[05:39] <orbin> ethereality: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=9f68692edc4bd5f0b825662af1558e03&t=187874&page=11 - possible method.  haven't tried it myself.
[05:39] <aventin> orbin: it just says "/dev/sda:"
[05:39] <TasteeWheat> Fez:  My Versions:beryl 0.2.1.dfsg+git20070318-0ubuntu2   /   beryl-core 0.2.0~0beryl1
[05:39] <eAi> soundray, what filesystem should the boot partition be?
[05:39] <soundray> eAi: ext3
[05:40] <Kohvihoor> Thanks, XLV_feisty. : )
[05:40] <raintheory> having some strange issues with one of my HFS+ external drives...   anyone up for helping me troubleshoot?
[05:40] <sHR00m> yes and ext3 only
[05:40] <Knoeki> how do I copy/move using the terminal? (I have my reasons...)
[05:40] <lesshaste_> I have noticed that apt-get upgrade never offers me a kernel upgrade
[05:40] <vox754> jsizzle_, please, if you cannot use private messages move to a temporal private channel like #jsizzle_ so you can talk privately
[05:40] <Ramosa> Can ubuntu write to NTFS drives yet?
[05:40] <beanie> digital_k: i found naothing, its a shit PhoenixBIOS can i install in text-mode or something?
[05:40] <TasteeWheat> Fez:  beryl-manaber   0.2.0~0beryl1      /   beryl-plugins   0.2.1-0ubunto2
[05:40] <lesshaste_> do you have to do something different for the kernel?
[05:40] <vox754> !ntfs-3g
[05:40] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:40] <vaio> quickquestion i have a sony vaio notebook ad im wathcing movies with vlc but the volume ist to low, any possibilities?
[05:40] <lesshaste_> vaio, run the mixer
[05:40] <rausb0> Knoeki: terminal window in X or the real text console?
[05:40] <zootm> Ramosa: The ntfs 3g thing above is what you want
[05:40] <vaio> where how? i got xubuntu
[05:41] <vaio> and im tottaly new in linux
[05:41] <Knoeki> rabus: the one in accessories...
[05:41] <g1gaman> gentlemen, how's about that SRU thing and updates? were there any updates of feisty during last four weeks? maybe there is something wrong with update-manager? my english is poor, so i would be really gratefull for a clear answer. thank you very much.
[05:41] <lesshaste_> vaio, alsamixer ?
[05:41] <Knoeki> so I guess that's the X window one...
[05:41] <jsizzle_> whatever
[05:41] <raintheory> nobody?    ...  is there anothoer channel i should be in asking about the HFS+ filesystem?
[05:41] <orbin> aventin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  pastebin the output of sudo hdparm -d /dev/sda
[05:41] <KiloHertz> Hi all request help. I have a Geforce 4 MMX card and I need to install the driver for it. Anyone help me?
[05:41] <rausb0> Knoeki: use commands cp and mv
[05:41] <diminthedam> soundray: what should i choose here? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20503/
[05:41] <Ramosa> great, then I don't need to format my external HDD as FAT32
[05:42] <orbin> aventin: sudo hdparm /dev/sda sorry, no -d
[05:42] <vox754> raintheory, what's that? just curious
[05:42] <Knoeki> rausb0: thanks \o/
[05:42] <soundray> raintheory: you need to say what the problem is.
[05:42] <KiloHertz> Hi all request help. I have a Geforce 4 MMX card and I need to install the driver for it. Anyone help me?
[05:42] <orbin> KiloHertz: don't repeat please
[05:42] <vaio> lesshaste_,  ??
[05:42] <vox754> !repeat | KiloHertz
[05:42] <ubotu> KiloHertz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:42] <eAi> soundray, I've created a 448MB partition in GParted on my internal hard disk - ext3, what should I do next? Its called "New Partition #3"...
[05:42] <aventin> orbin: the ONLY output from that command is "/dev/sda:" on a new line
[05:42] <rausb0> Knoeki: and make use of the TAB key for expanding directory/filenames
[05:43] <jsizzle_> KiloHertz: read www.ubuntuguide.org, there's an nVidia howto there
[05:43] <KiloHertz> Tried failed to start x
[05:43] <soundray> diminthedam: hit 'I' to install the new config. Your old one will be saved as /etc/ntp.conf.dpkg-old
[05:43] <xtknight> KiloHertz, i've really gotta get back to work, but one thing i can suggest that will save you sometime is that you'll need to use nvidia-glx, not nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx-new AFAIK
[05:43] <BigMac> Hey, I followed this guide :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 , and I still can't get wifi to work. Is there anyway to remove all of my wifi drivers, because I think if I start from scratch it should work
[05:43] <jsizzle_> aventin: try hda instead of sda
[05:43] <aventin> orbin: ahh, haha, okey without the -d there's some more! :)
[05:43] <raintheory> HFS+ is a Macintosh filesystem...    I've got 2 external drives formatted as HFS+ and have had no probs with them for quite awhile.  I've got fsck.hfsplus installed so i can fsck the drives, but now one of them wont mount and i can't fsck it either
[05:43] <crdlb> KiloHertz: did you use the restricted manager?
[05:43] <g1gaman> !sru
[05:43] <ubotu> Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for main and restricted, while https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU is for universe and multiverse.
[05:44] <vox754> BigMac, you can safely remove all trace of ndiswrapper with "locate ndiswrapper", but the other drivers bcm43xx are best left alone
[05:44] <aventin> orbin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20504/
[05:44] <cornell_> Sorry, rausb0, got distracted...  I've the alternate CD, xubuntu's on that?  Or is there a different CD for xubuntu?
[05:44] <vox754> !xubuntu
[05:44] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[05:44] <WaxyFresh> how do you conect to a new irc server in gaim?
[05:44] <soundray> eAi: is the new partition formatted? Mounted?
[05:44] <nixternal> CotH: just remember to use the pastebin from now on, and I do appologize for the ban and not the quiet
[05:44] <BigMac> vox754: I think bcm43xx is the problem, because that is the only thing that I have installed that is not in the guides
[05:44] <nixternal> hehe
[05:45] <soundray> raintheory: "one of them won't mount" -- can you elaborate
[05:45] <orbin> jsizzle_: any ideas fir aventin?  why isn't the dma setting showing?
[05:45] <CotH> okay, jsizzle_: where were we?
[05:45] <jsizzle_> CotH: I made a #jsizzle for us
[05:45] <xtknight> usser, it should be
[05:45] <CotH> jsizzle_: Aww, I'm touched
[05:45] <BigMac> vox754: And does the locate command remove all instances?
[05:45] <WaxyFresh> anyone know where i can find a simple list of linux distros and what there best suited for?
[05:45] <usser> xtknight: so why bother with ntfs3g?
[05:45] <XLV_feisty> usser, if the host pc has writing support for ntfs
[05:45] <vox754> CotH, please, if you cannot use private messages move to a temporal private channel like #CotH
[05:45] <jsizzle_> orbin: sudo hdparm -c -d /dev/hda
[05:45] <diminthedam> soundray: it finished without errors. anything else?
[05:45] <xtknight> usser, because you need to use ntfs-3g to have any write permissions at all.
[05:46] <usser> XLV_feisty aha thanks for clearing that out
[05:46] <xtknight> sharing an ntfs with samba still requires ntfs-3g
[05:46] <orbin> aventin: what jsizzle_ suggested
[05:46] <xtknight> smbfs is not the filesystem to mount an NTFS drive
[05:46] <xtknight> smbfs is the filesystem to mount a network share
[05:46] <usser> xtknight thank ypu
[05:46] <jsizzle_> err sda or whatever
[05:46] <soundray> diminthedam: 'sudo apt-get -f install' to ensure the update process is completed.
[05:46] <aventin> orbin: "IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)"
[05:46] <XLV_feisty> usser, you want to share with samba a local ntfs partition? that wont work, cause still you have to run ntfs-3g to provide the local pc writing support, then export it with samba
[05:46] <raintheory> soundray, sure 1 sec
[05:46] <usser> xtknight yea but that'd be netwrok drive //localhost/share
[05:46] <xtknight> usser, right.  netwrok drive of type SMBFS, not of type NTFS
[05:47] <ethereality> Why are so many users having to enter their password to their keyrings after every login? Is it because 7.04 is beta?
[05:47] <vox754> BigMac, well, you don't need to install bcm43xx as it is included in the kernel... "locate" just locates things, then you see where they are so you can remove them... very useful for removing small packages
[05:47] <XLV_feisty> usser, i thought you were talking about a partition on some other pc, a windows pc eg
[05:47] <cornell_> OK, TTFN, gonna give it a try...  Thanks rausb0 and MDCore
[05:47] <xtknight> it abstracts the local ntfs-3g drive and converts it to a unified SMB type, mountd by another PC
[05:47] <xtknight> usser, ^
[05:47] <vaio> lesshaste_,  i Activated it, but where can i set it up?
[05:47] <BigMac> soundray: Hey remember me from yesterday? I went through that guide and still don't have wifi working
[05:47] <usser> xtknight XLV_feisty thank you i got it =)
[05:47] <vaio> theres is no fader or such thing
[05:47] <lesshaste_> vaio, sorry I have to go... good luck
[05:47] <soundray> BigMac: sorry to hear.
[05:47] <xtknight> samba is underneath filesystems
[05:48] <diminthedam> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20505/
[05:48] <xtknight> or over it...depending on how you look at it :P
[05:48] <rikstah> xtknight, no it's on top
[05:48] <XLV_feisty> usser, anyhow, ntfs-3g seems to work... theres some time it has been used now and its considered stable. dont fear it
[05:48] <Paddy_EIRE> jeeze linux is starting to suck
[05:48] <AfterDeath> heh.
[05:48] <soundray> BigMac: I've given up on by Broadcom wifi for now. I'll buy an external USB thing.
[05:48] <jsizzle_> aventin: that would be the reason your system is slow
[05:48] <usser> XLV_feisty i ditched ntfs a year ago, it was just out of curiosisty] 
[05:48] <Paddy_EIRE> I have been using feisty 32bit somewhat successfully since its release and appreciated that it connected with my wifi straight away although just the other day I switched the laptop on and poof the wifi is gone??? I find this very unreliable and not what I expected from linux which is apparently "rock solid".  Im using and atheros wifi chipset on an acer laptop... Before this problem occurred I had changed not a thing
[05:49] <WaxyFresh> after switching from xubuntu to ubuntu firefox lost its spellcheck pluging,people say that FF2 shold have spellcheck already installed yet it dosent seem to have this feature,anyone know hjow to fix this or a link to a plugin
[05:49] <aventin> jsizzle_: ah! good! then we're getting somwhere! :) is there anything i can do about it? :)
[05:49] <BigMac> soundray: I would do the same but I have no job, oso I would like to get what I have working : /
[05:49] <soundray> diminthedam: looking good. Whether you follow the suggestion and run 'sudo apt-get autoremove' is your choice.
[05:49] <hacked_kernel> Have any one used QT or GTK with C/C++ ?
[05:49] <diminthedam> soundray: thanks a lot mate. will reboot and enjoy the new distro!
[05:49] <cables> Where can I get verb lists for KVerbos?
[05:49] <jsizzle_> aventin: there is a howto if you follow the link "speeding up your ubuntu box" from ubuntuguide.org look for enabling dma on hard disks
[05:50] <XLV_feisty> usser, i only installed feisty a day, before i was using slack and only had read enabled in ntfs partitions, but from the limited time i have used it, it writes both on the local winxp partition and an external usb2 320GB hdd i have with no accidents
[05:50] <jsizzle_> aventin: after following the link from ubuntuguide.org that is
[05:50] <vox754> Paddy_EIRE, it is rock solid on your system, but that is a hardware problem which can only be solved by manufacturers if they provide drivers...
[05:50] <raintheory> soundray, "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1,"
[05:50] <aventin> jsizzle_:
[05:50] <soundray> BigMac: have you been able to work out whether your eth1 is wired or wireless?
[05:50] <az> does anyone know if you can write "batch" files if you will in ubuntu?
[05:50] <usser> az: shell scripting
[05:50] <orbin> jsizzle_: well he doesn't seem to have a using_dma line and my IO_support is set to 16-bit too ...
[05:50] <jsizzle_> az: it's called shell scripting
[05:50] <BigMac> soundray: I am pretty positive it is wired
[05:50] <Paddy_EIRE> vox754, they did they couldnt be any more helpful
[05:50] <soundray> raintheory: what returns this? Full command please
[05:51] <BigMac> soundray: Wait no, eth0 is wired
[05:51] <soundray> BigMac: so you have two connectors for wired Ethernet?
[05:51] <aventin> jsizzle_: i'll check the guide. :)
[05:51] <az> thanx.  is it like ".shell" or something (im a windows person)
[05:51] <raintheory> soundray, "sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdc1 /media/250GB"
[05:51] <Paddy_EIRE> vox754, linux just aint dependable 1 minute the wifi is working the next it has vanished
[05:51] <orbin> aventin: pastebin the output of "mount" please
[05:51] <BigMac> soundray: Nope just one
[05:51] <usser> az: it is usually .sh
[05:51] <az> thanx soo much
[05:51] <usser> az: but can be anything really
[05:51] <az> cool
[05:52] <vox754> Paddy_EIRE, go rant somewhere else #ubuntu-offtopic   it is reliable for many of us, don't assume your case applies to everyone
[05:52] <aventin> orbin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20507/
[05:52] <Paddy_EIRE> vox754, not ranting asking for help if you cant then keep quite ;)
[05:52] <usser> Paddy_EIRE its not linux's fault
[05:53] <Paddy_EIRE> usser, it never is
[05:53] <ethereality> Do you have to enter your password every time for the key ring if it is the same as your login password?
[05:53] <usser> Paddy_EIRE thats right, you're getting a hang of it =))
[05:53] <soundray> BigMac: I suspect that your eth1 is your wifi interface then. You could try configuring it with DHCP (ie. disabling roaming) and see what happens.
[05:53] <ethereality> (I'm thinking I might just reinstall if I can get out of entering it every time that way.)
[05:53] <raintheory> soundray, in the past when i have had issued i've run "fsck.hfsplus /dev/sdc1" after unmounting the disk and its usually fixed any issues from being not cleanly unmounted...   now it wont run for some reason
[05:53] <vaio> anyone else here that can tell me to get the sound louder, if i already have it at maximum in VLC
[05:53] <rikstah> vaio use amix or alsamixer?
[05:54] <raintheory> but it will run on my other external hfsplus drive
[05:54] <rikstah> aumix even
[05:54] <soundray> raintheory: is /dev/sdc1 listed when you run 'sudo fdisk -l'?
[05:54] <sarixe> what would happen if i used an nvidia driver with an ati card?
[05:54] <snowpunk98> I just downloaded a checkgmail SVN I want to use over the stable one I installed from the repository, can someone tell me where to move the file so I can run it at startup?
[05:54] <erUSUL> vaio: gnome-mixer or alsamixer ??
[05:54] <orbin> aventin: well it's definitely sda you're after.  see how /dev/sda1 corresponds to / which is the ubuntu root partition.  try the guide i guess.
[05:54] <usser> sarixe nothing it'd work
[05:54] <erUSUL> sarixe: it would not work ?
[05:54] <sarixe> hm...
[05:54] <usser> sarixe would not
[05:54] <vaio> rikstah,  no clue, just installed xubuntu first time
[05:54] <sarixe> alright
[05:54] <sarixe> well
[05:54] <raintheory> soundray, yep sure is
[05:54] <sarixe> knowing me, i have to try it
[05:54] <usser> sarixe it wont even install
[05:54] <sarixe> just for kicks
[05:54] <rikstah> vaio, try typing alsamixer in the console
[05:54] <sarixe> yes it will
[05:55] <sarixe> it's already installed under linux-restricted-modules
[05:55] <usser> sarixe oh ehm, well then
[05:55] <BigMac> soundray: under network, I only have eth 1 (wired) and modem which I don't have
[05:55] <usser> sarixe wont work
[05:55] <vaio> works
[05:55] <BigMac> wireless has vanished
[05:55] <soundray> raintheory: run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and see if any errors are logged while you plug the drive in.
[05:55] <vaio> rikstah,
[05:55] <sarixe> alright then... i'll try it anyway
[05:55] <sarixe> lol
[05:55] <BigMac> and I just went through the whole ndiswrapper install
[05:55] <aventin> orbin: okey - i'll try it. THANKS SOO MUCH for your time an patience! just so i know, what you suspect is that dma is not enabled and it's using some kind of PIO-mode?
[05:55] <usser> u mad man
[05:55] <soundray> BigMac: could you pastebin the full output of 'lspci' please
[05:55] <shily> 
[05:55] <rikstah> vaio, you should really have a volume icon in the tray?
[05:56] <usser> 
[05:56] <BigMac> soundray: Sure
[05:56] <usser> 
[05:56] <vaio> no
[05:56] <vox754> BigMac, did you provide this link about "Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card is used in "Dell Inspiron 1501"
[05:57] <vaio> i had the options to make it louder in the console
[05:57] <vaio> thanks RichiH
[05:57] <void^_> !cn | shily
[05:57] <ubotu> shily: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[05:57] <orbin> aventin: yes, my stab was that dma was not enabled, but i don't know why you're not getting feedback from the -d command which is used the check the dma status
[05:57] <shily> 
[05:57] <vaio> rikstah,
[05:57] <rikstah> no problem
[05:57] <BigMac> vox754: Um yes, I believe so. I have a dell 501 and that wifi card
[05:57] <BigMac> soundray: http://rafb.net/p/4gXSvu59.html
[05:57] <shily> 
[05:57] <linuxboy> what packages do I install to enable "3D" in the gnome chess ?
[05:57] <baklava-> Hey guys... so if I want the Live CD I just download the Desktop CD?
[05:57] <linuxboy> "Your system does not have the required software to enable 3D mode. Please contact your system administrator and ask them to install the OpenGL Python bindings and the GtkGLExt Python bindings.
[05:57] <linuxboy> "
[05:58] <aventin> orbin: so the -d command should return a negative value if dma is not present?
[05:58] <rikstah> linuxboy, it just told you.
[05:58] <linuxboy> rikstah: when?
[05:58] <rikstah> linuxboy, in the message
[05:58] <soundray> BigMac: weird. I wonder where that second ethernet interface comes from. It's not clear from your lspci
[05:58] <vox754> BigMac, I see, that tutorial is actually very good. I can only think you are using wring drivers, maybe trying different drivers with different versions of ndiswrapper.
[05:59] <linuxboy> rikstah: there is no package called "OpenGL Python bindings" or "GtkGLExt Python bindings".  I'm looking for the package name
[05:59] <HaMF> Hi
[05:59] <omha> hey
[05:59] <hon> what is the equivalent of wine to run osx apps on linux?
[05:59] <aventin> orbin: i'll chack the guides and try to get it to work. again, thanks soo much for your help!
[05:59] <orbin> aventin: you should see "using_dma  =  1 (on)" or "using_dma =  0 (off)"  which is why i'm confused
[05:59] <omha> i have a problem with my FSC wlan card based on the sis163u chipset
[05:59] <rambo3> !find gtkglext
[05:59] <ubotu> Found: libghc6-gtkglext-dev, libgtkglext1, libgtkglext1-dev, libgtkglext1-doc, libgtkglext1-ruby
[05:59] <ethereality> Do you have to enter your password every time for the key ring if it is the same as your login password? (I might just reinstall if I can get out of entering it every time that way.)
[05:59] <raintheory> soundray, nothing jumps out at me in the log...   just the usual "attached scsi disk sdc" etc.
[05:59] <soundray> hon: there is no such thing
[05:59] <BigMac> vox754: But according to the link at the bottom of the page, that combination should work flawlessly with each other
[05:59] <rikstah> linuxboy, python-opengl
[05:59] <orbin> aventin: good luck
[05:59] <sarixe> bahahahaha.... didn't work
[05:59] <kirkunit> hon: darwine?
[05:59] <linuxboy> rikstah: I figured out that "OpenGL Python bindings" is called python-opengl, but I can't figure out the other one
[05:59] <rambo3> !find gtkglext | linuxboy
[06:00] <ubotu> linuxboy: please see above
[06:00] <soundray> hon: there is a system called pearpc which lets you run ppc binaries.
[06:00] <orbin> aventin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA may help too
[06:00] <linuxboy> rambo3: doesn't help
[06:00] <kirkunit> hon: http://sourceforge.net/projects/darwine
[06:00] <beanie> how can i install ubuntu in text-mode?
[06:00] <hon> I want to buy universal or intel binaries
[06:00] <hon> is it as good as wine?
[06:01] <soundray> !alternate > beanie, please read ubotu's pricate message
[06:01] <linuxboy> rambo3: I need the gtkglext python bindings.  Not the "OpenGL Extension to GTK"
[06:01] <aventin> orbin: ah, thanks for the link. i'll check them out right after dinner! :)
[06:01] <HaMF> when you browse with nautilus to a folder with images which include exif-thumbnails, it seem's like nautilus displays the exif-thumbnails of the images directly, but it also copies them to ~/.thumbnails/normal. Is there a way to stop nautilus from doing so?
[06:01] <HaMF> (so that it displays the thumbs, but does not create copies)
[06:02] <soundray> hon: darwine is not what you were looking for. It's a port of wine to OS X
[06:02] <orbin> ethereality: regardless of whether or not they match afaik.  from what i read of the thread, matching them is part of getting the prompt to stop
[06:02] <linuxboy> rambo3, rikstah, the package isn't available in the repos.  You have to download it somewhere else
[06:02] <hon> soundray: yeah, just figured
[06:02] <vox754> BigMac, use the verbose "sudo lspci -v"
[06:02] <rikstah> linuxboy, errr so do it then
[06:02] <variant> BigMac: or lshw
[06:02] <tommy> anyone know how i could get "multiple commandlines" (much like the ctrl+alt f1-f6 functions) in ssh(putty)
[06:03] <variant> tommy: screen
[06:03] <rikstah> tommy,  screen or the kde shell
[06:03] <variant> tommy: or open annohter session
[06:03] <CotH> jsizzle_: You've gone very quiet; are you there?
[06:03] <soundray> !screen | tommy
[06:03] <ubotu> tommy: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[06:03] <Hamm_sand> yeahuse tabs
[06:03] <hon> I prefer to buy a mac version of a software if there windows and mac versions only. I just need to make sure I can run in in linux as well
[06:03] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know how I can remove/reinstall the existing default wifi driver feisty chose for it so I can at least move in some direction
[06:03] <bullgard4> [Battery managment]  Where does the function 'static int acpi_battery_get_info(struct acpi_battery *battery,struct acpi_battery_info **bif) of /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20/drivers/acpi/battery.c obtain its argument 'acpi_battery_info' from?
[06:04] <brussel> any reason why pg_ctl isn't in the path after installing postgres? (If you reply make sure you use my name so I hear a beep and return.)
[06:04] <yimmmy> i neeed a realy smart person to try to log into my pc
[06:04] <variant> BigMac: the DHDT
[06:04] <g1gaman> gentlemen, how's about that SRU thing and updates? were there any updates of feisty during last four weeks? maybe there is something wrong with update-manager? my english is poor, so i would be really gratefull for a clear answer. thank you very much. anyone?
[06:04] <yimmmy> remote destop
[06:04] <soundray> hon: there is currently no way.
[06:04] <hon> tommy: use GNU screen. its a really great app with so many useful features
[06:05] <variant> BigMac: DSTD i mean
[06:05] <hon> soundray: I see. thanks. won't buy it then ;)
[06:05] <yimmmy> can some on log into my pc for me to test it out and fix it
[06:05] <soundray> g1gaman: if you don't get a reply, don't repeat, rephrase. It is not clear to me what "that SRU thing" is.
[06:05] <yimmmy> yimmmy is my name
[06:05] <variant> BigMac: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/index.php if your's is badly written you can decompile, fix and recompile it. you can then load it at boot time with an initrd
[06:05] <variant> BigMac: might fix any acpi issues you have (might make tem worse too)
[06:06] <BigMac> variant: I like the odds
[06:06] <gglser> hi all. enjoying your weekend? heres the catch: I need to connect my television to my laptop, to watch a movie through the TV, I usually do this with windows. how do I go about doing this in Ubuntu???
[06:06] <BigMac> variant: Woah, what is that?
[06:07] <soundray> !tvout > gglser, please read the private message from ubotu
[06:07] <variant> BigMac: my toshiba satellite pro a60 has a microsoft dsdt which spews 188 errors and 300 warnings when compiled with the intel asl compiler (the microsoft one ignores the errors
[06:07] <gglser> soundray: right on! Ill give it a read and let you know. thanks!
[06:07] <MadDog011> Im sorry, but does the ATI driver use the GLX module?
[06:08] <hon> what is the best tex system at the moment? (yes, lame question, I used to use latex but I'd like to know about others if they are good. e.g. is xetex good?, also why documentation are written in texinfo, ...)
[06:08] <variant> BigMac: what is what?
[06:08] <vox754> hon, TeXlive is all you'll need
[06:08] <soundray> hon: concur with vox754
[06:08] <gglser> soundray: it says its not been tested on ATI
[06:09] <MadDog011> hey hey, I had a NVIDIA card on a linux box, and I replaced it with ATI card, what do I have to change in the XORG.CONF that's leftover from the old Drive?R
[06:09] <soundray> gglser: you have the power to change that ;)
[06:09] <gglser> soundray: lol you have a point
[06:09] <hon> vox754: texlive comes with xetex, context, .... I used to use latex but I want to know if the alternative systems are good (or what they are good for)
[06:09] <variant> MadDog011: use the restricted drivers manager and swap them
[06:09] <purplepenguins> what is the alternative to latex?
[06:09] <BigMac> variant: DDST
[06:09] <hon> e.g. texinfo
[06:09] <vox754> hon, now I'm not sure what you are talking about... latex is just latex... ?
[06:10] <hon> other extensions of tex
[06:10] <hon> omega, aleph, luatex, contex, xetex, ...
[06:10] <hon> what are they good for
[06:10] <oly> hi, i have a amd x2 processor but i think only one core is enabled anyway i can check this or find out why
[06:10] <orbin> hon: isn't that kind of offtopic here? :P
[06:10] <variant> BigMac: its DSDT, and its a table of information that is stored by the bios or acpi chip (not sure which) the operating system gets information from this about powermanagement and how it's implemented for this specici motherboard
[06:11] <jsizzle_> oly: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:11] <oly> at work when i run htop it says two cpus and they are same processors
[06:11] <zlx> can you change the amount of lines the scroll on my mouse does?
[06:11] <marcel> dings
[06:11] <marcel> lol
[06:11] <purplepenguins> doesn't ubuntu use an SMP kernel by default?
[06:11] <purplepenguins> it should use bother cores
[06:11] <variant> BigMac: if the dsdt (which is written in ASL language) is badly written then the operating system can struggle to know what to do when somone presses suspend etc
[06:11] <digital_k> is there really any benefit to using x64 for a everyday stuff?
[06:11] <BigMac> variant: and I need that for wifi?
[06:11] <purplepenguins> digital_k: not really
[06:11] <oly> that returns one cpu :p
[06:11] <hon> orbin: sorry. sometimes its hard to find active channels. I admit it.
[06:11] <MUTU> ultra noob question: what do I type in terminal to mount my SATA hard disk and be able to copy files from my Linux IDE HDD to the SATA NTFS one?
[06:12] <oly> next question how do i enble the other cpu ??
[06:12] <oly> :)
[06:12] <MadDog011> variant, I have glx enabled in my XORG is that ok ? can you send me your xorg, so I can see what it look slike? if u have a ati
[06:12] <vox754> hon, I guess they are very specific, and actually don't need to worry about it because I think everything just gets embedded in latex anyways... I mean you wouldn't know that you are using context even if you called "latex <somefile>"
[06:12] <variant> BigMac: wtf, have i been talking to the wrong person all along| lol
[06:12] <Lambach> anyone wanna help me w/ a grub error code 15 ?
[06:12] <marcel> doctording
[06:12] <digital_k> purplepenguins thats what I thought , thanks.
[06:12] <variant> MadDog011: nope.. glx should be enabled yes
[06:12] <g1gaman> soundray: stablereleaseupdate
[06:12] <purplepenguins> okay, you need to do "sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/wherever" MUTU
[06:12] <purplepenguins> to mount it
[06:12] <variant> MadDog011: remove ati driver, install nvidia driver simple
[06:12] <marcel> kdenk ff zoekuh in die nicklist maar val nie mee ;p
[06:12] <MUTU> thanks purplepenguins
[06:13] <doctording> marcel
[06:13] <g1gaman> soundray: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[06:13] <purplepenguins> err, replace /dev/sda with /dev/sda1
[06:13] <variant> !ati | MadDog011
[06:13] <ubotu> MadDog011: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:13] <purplepenguins> assuming it is the first SATA drive's first partition
[06:13] <oly> yeah i think ubuntu should use an smp keneral
[06:13] <MadDog011> thanx
[06:13] <BigMac> variant: Lol that explains it
[06:13] <purplepenguins> are you using feisty?
[06:13] <vox754> variant, oh man, I thought you had the answer for BigMac !
[06:13] <oly> they where seperate but all got merged into linux-generic package
[06:13] <cyzie> where do i set the buffer for history ?
[06:13] <oly> no idea why it only picks up one of my cores
[06:13] <variant> bullgard4: See everything i was tellin BigMac about DSDT's :) it was intended for you
[06:14] <variant> vox754: lol
[06:14] <purplepenguins> I used ubuntu once
[06:14] <purplepenguins> with smp
[06:14] <cables> Where's a good place to install things that aren't in debian packages, like Google Earth?
[06:14] <digital_k> just once? lol
[06:14] <oly> any command to force it or find out why only one i in use ?
[06:14] <purplepenguins> and it worked
[06:14] <purplepenguins> well, for about a year
[06:14] <MUTU> purplepenguins: i need to create a mount point, whatever that is
[06:14] <hon> vox754: thanks. what about texinfo?
[06:14] <purplepenguins> I've used a lot of distros
[06:14] <digital_k> ive been using it since 2004
[06:14] <oly> seems pointless running my computer at half speed :p
[06:14] <digital_k> its really come a long way
[06:14] <purplepenguins> I used it back during the hoary days
[06:14] <BigMac> vox754: well guess I will be here for a while if you think of something
[06:15] <blackgraz_> i used redhat 4.2
[06:15] <MUTU> purplepenguins: mount: mount point /mnt/wherever does not exist
[06:15] <purplepenguins> currently I'm using debian, I liked the way it does things better
[06:15] <jsizzle_> I've been using linux since 94, it's come a really long way!!
[06:15] <jsizzle_> lol
[06:15] <eAi> anyone know how to install Grub - I've created a small partition for it and I want to use it to dual boot Windows and Ubuntu (on an external USB hard disk)
[06:15] <digital_k> i used suse to start, but i didnt really like it and ubuntu was the 2nd distro i ever tried, and it grew on me.
[06:15] <digital_k> i kinda stuck with it
[06:15] <vox754> hon, never used it, but I've heard it is used to document things, programs, manual. That is, it does not supersedes latex, but rather uses it for special purposes
[06:15] <purplepenguins> eAi: do you have ubuntu installed already?
[06:15] <eAi> yes
[06:15] <jsizzle_> I started with slackware, then redhat, then debian, then ubuntu
[06:15] <eAi> but it put grub on the external hard disk
[06:16] <blackgraz_> hahaha
[06:16] <purplepenguins> you need to tell grub which drive you want to install it on
[06:16] <MUTU> how do i create a mount point please?
[06:16] <eAi> how?
[06:16] <digital_k> i tried installing debian once.....just out of curiosity...lol i didnt get past the boot screen.
[06:16] <eAi> I tried grub-install /dev/sda6
[06:16] <digital_k> i know that ubuntu is debian based
[06:16] <digital_k> but its easier
[06:16] <Lambach> can someone help me w/ a grub error 15 ... the net is failing me
[06:16] <purplepenguins> 'grub', 'root(hdx,y)', 'setup(hdx)'
[06:16] <jsizzle_> debian is lovely, but ubuntu is pertier
[06:16] <digital_k> yes ive seen a fully enabled debian box
[06:16] <purplepenguins> where x is the drive you want and y is the partition where grub should be
[06:16] <jsizzle_> debian can be just as perty but takes more work
[06:16] <digital_k> its a solid distro, if you have the time
[06:17] <purplepenguins> I hate GNOME, hate it hate it
[06:17] <digital_k> why?
[06:17] <eAi> whats the difference between hda and sda?
[06:17] <digital_k> i prefer it actually
[06:17] <rambo3> debian has better gtk based installer
[06:17] <purplepenguins> I use openbox
[06:17] <digital_k> its very well laid out.
[06:17] <MUTU> can anyone help me set up a mount point pls?
[06:17] <digital_k> i like kde also, but its not good for everyday use IMO, its too busy.
[06:17] <purplepenguins> I started with Gnome, got annoyed by the way it did things so I used KDE, got tired of the bloat so I tried e16, then fluxbox, and finally openbox
[06:18] <blackgraz> yeah it runs very slow
[06:18] <jsizzle_> MUTU: sudo mkdir /media/newmountpoint ; sudo mount /dev/whatever /media/newmountpoint
[06:18] <hon> MUTU: for what? do you know about /etc/fstab
[06:18] <blackgraz> gnome seems to run faster
[06:18] <digital_k> ive been keeping an eye on kde4, and it looks promising
[06:18] <purplepenguins> sda is SATA, hda is IDE eAi
[06:18] <blackgraz> but it seems like im missing alot of icons in gnome
[06:18] <jsizzle_> is openbox still actively developed?
[06:18] <purplepenguins> don't know
[06:18] <purplepenguins> the newest version is nice
[06:18] <vox754> BigMac, since you have an unsupported broadcom card, you can only try different versions of ndiswrapper that is 1.22 then 1.32 then 1.37 then 1.41 until you hit the right one, and also making sure which driver are you using. Every time make sure you remove the previous ndiswrapper before reinstalling
[06:18] <purplepenguins> 3.x or something I think
[06:18] <Popoi> howdy everybody
[06:19] <digital_k> i install xfce on a friends old computer, that is a nice distro for older machines.
[06:19] <blackgraz> nextstep is not even around is it?
[06:19] <jsizzle_> maybe I'll give it a shot
[06:19] <digital_k> its very light
[06:19] <eAi> I did root (sda6,y) and it said "Error 23: Error while parsing number"
[06:19] <digital_k> xubuntu rather
[06:19] <purplepenguins> I'm thinking of setting up a debian/ubuntu mirror at my university
[06:19] <purplepenguins> someone used to run one but they graduated
[06:19] <enry> crossover 6.0 is simply fantastic
[06:19] <vox754> purplepenguins, offtopic?
[06:19] <jsizzle_> eai: grub is looking for somthing like (hd0,0) or (hd0,#)
[06:19] <BigMac> vox754: I already told you though, this combination has been tested and worked on 40 + of the readers who used the guide
[06:19] <digital_k> when i download thats usually where i try to get my iso's, fast connection and i can usually max out
[06:19] <enry> for the pepol who need a win application
[06:20] <BigMac> It should be working
[06:20] <eAi> jsizzle: ok...
[06:20] <purplepenguins> eh, I forgot that you guys are picky about on-topic-ness
[06:20] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: hey still the progress bar hasnt come..after adding vga=791..and also takes the usual long time
[06:20] <vox754> BigMac, yeah, I know, but you need to try other things so... it is your choice.
[06:20] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: ok.  do you want to get rid of it permanently?
[06:21] <Tomatix> how can I change the caracterset in my j2re client in firefox?
[06:21] <MUTU> bah, why is it so unintuitive to copy a simple directory from my Linux hard disk to another hard disk? been trying random stuff for an hour
[06:21] <eAi> how do I know what those arguments should be for "root"?
[06:21] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: are there no other remedies?
[06:21] <purplepenguins> it shouldn't be a problem
[06:21] <purplepenguins> with 'cp -R /path/to/source /path/to/destination'
[06:21] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: you can hunt around.  that was my last stab
[06:21] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: beacause i need to have the beatiful progress bar
[06:21] <purplepenguins> you just need to make sure that both partitions are mounted
[06:21] <MUTU> that's the problem... mounting them
[06:22] <purplepenguins> you have to have them in /etc/fstab to have them user-mountable
[06:22] <MUTU> can't i do something to automount all hard disk and have them similar to windows?
[06:22] <purplepenguins> it's a security feature
[06:22] <vox754> !who | purplepenguins
[06:22] <ubotu> purplepenguins: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[06:22] <skar> hi, my ff2 doesn't recognize a cacert signed ssl site, even cacert's https site has a warning that issuer is unknown, is there any other free providers included in ff2 by default?
[06:22] <purplepenguins> yeah, you edit /etc/fstab and tell them all about what your partitions are and where they ought to be MUTU
[06:22] <b52> hello
[06:22] <narftastic> I'm trying to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 ..there was an error.. now I get this message when trying to upgrade: "bash: /usr/bin/gksu: No such file or directory
[06:22] <narftastic> "  anyone know how to resolve this?
[06:22] <biouser> help! how would I join a hidden network? I am having problems, we have a hidden network and I have knetworkmanager
[06:22] <vagabon1> I've been trying for the last week to get sound to work with Feisty - I tried ubuntu out about a year ago and was able to get it to work with this same PC at that time, but I don't remember how I was able to do that.  Anyone willing to help, or have any suggestions (I feel like I've hit most of the major forum posts regarding sound, but maybe I'm missing some)?
[06:23] <purplepenguins> ubotu: #ubuntu is pretty large, isn't it...
[06:23] <vox754> !bot | purplepenguins
[06:23] <purplepenguins> err, wait, that was a bot
[06:23] <ubotu> purplepenguins: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:23] <MUTU> so /etc/fstab is a textfile?
[06:23] <BigToe> !symlink
[06:23] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:23] <biouser> I say "join other wireless network" and put in the name but... the device never activates
[06:23] <b52> i tried to install xubuntu with in a lvm, i used the offered partition tool, but i get problems when creating a logical volume in mz volume group
[06:23] <purplepenguins> I like rxvt-unicode myself, but Konsole is a nice term too
[06:23] <kirkunit> vagabon1: are you using a soundcard?
[06:23] <BigMac> vox754: I am not against trying things to get this to work, I am against doing something for no reason other then the slim probability that it will work
[06:23] <purplepenguins> yeh
[06:24] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: how can i get rid of it..
[06:24] <biouser> have you ever joined a hidden network?
[06:24] <biouser> and how?
[06:24] <purplepenguins> MUTU: whip out gedit and check some of the Ubuntu wiki's or forum posts, there should be some guides to /etc/fstab
[06:24] <defrysk> MUTU, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab
[06:24] <vagabon1> kirkunit: yes, < Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)>
[06:24] <narftastic> anyone?
[06:24] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: try searching the forum and/or making a thread.  the splash is called usplash so use that as a keyword.
[06:24] <drivera90>  I want to run a game that needs DirectX 7.0 on Wine. What do I do?
[06:24] <biouser> I am in China and internet costs per minute, so we have set up a hidden network
[06:24] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: i will keep it as astandby if nothing happens..
[06:24] <Lambach> can someone plz help me w/ a grub error 15 , would make my day ... PM me plz
[06:24] <vox754> BigMac, you would be surprised how many people have said that, and then it just works!
[06:25] <biouser> a hidden wireless network to keep it private
[06:25] <Tomatix> I`m trying again.. How can I change the caracterset in my j2re client in firefox? It doesn`t show the characters ,, ,, properly, and I use java to chat sometimes and the participants receive only weird characters instead of my "special" characters...
[06:25] <biouser> but ubuntu will not connect to the hidden network
[06:25] <MUTU> purplepenguins / defrysk
[06:25] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: anyway thank you for the guidance
[06:25] <purplepenguins> biouser: private as in not connected to the internet?
[06:25] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: ok.  write this down or something.  gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst ... that'll open grub's (the bootloader's) config file
[06:26] <MUTU> purplepenguins / defrysk: how would i know all those options about my hard disks? :S
[06:26] <biouser> purplepenguins, I am on wired now... but, I need to connect to a hidden wireless network
[06:26] <narftastic> I'm trying to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 ..there was an error.. now I get this message when trying to upgrade: "bash: /usr/bin/gksu: No such file or directory"
[06:26] <narftastic> anyone know how to resolve this?
[06:26] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: how can i get rid of it from there
[06:26] <BigMac> vox754: I bet people have had success, but there is proof that these 2 versions work together, and they aren't. THat means there *is* a problem, which will need to be fixed before any version works
[06:26] <Yggdrasil> ahh its nicce to have a good fresh install
[06:26] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: search for splash.  it'll be in the kernel lines, just like you see at boot
[06:26] <purplepenguins> MUTU: there should be some entries already there, there will be a column listing /dev/*** entries, those are the block devices (the actual partitions you want mounted)
[06:26] <biouser> narftastic, sudo apt-get install gksu maybe?
[06:26] <Yggdrasil> with no lost data
[06:26] <gglser> soundray: it screwed everything up
[06:26] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: remove the word and you're done
[06:26] <gglser> soundray: lol
[06:26] <mattwalston> Anyone know why the sky2 driver has reliability issues with Marvell 88E8053?  My lspci is avail at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20434/.
[06:27] <biouser> How to join a hidden network with ubuntu/knetworkmanager?
[06:27] <drivera90>  I want to run a game that needs DirectX 7.0 on Wine. What do I do?
[06:27] <purplepenguins> biouser: do you have working wireless drivers?
[06:27] <gglser> soundray: didnt work and now when I restart ubuntu it does like 5 checks on SDA/2
[06:27] <gglser> soundray : :-(
[06:27] <biouser> purplepenguins, yes, everything works normally, I just have never connected to a hidden network
[06:27] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: what if i want to add it again to the bootloader config file??does it work if i again add to the menu.lst??
[06:27] <narftastic> bionoid, whew thanks.. that was easy enough.
[06:27] <vox754> BigMac, not necessarily, suppose there was a bug in a version 1.37 that made it work but now it doesn't in 1.41. So downgrading solves it. Interesting things you find in the programming world
[06:27] <narftastic> err biouser
[06:28] <biouser> purplepenguins, and now it will not get through "configuring device"
[06:28] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: yes, just put splash back in.
[06:28] <biouser> narftastic, sorry if that was totally off-base
[06:28] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: ok..thank you..
[06:28] <biouser> just athought
[06:28] <jordan> How can I recover a file I accidentally deleted in the trash?
[06:28] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: good luck hunting
[06:28] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: can i find any notes related to this in ubuntu help?
[06:28] <purplepenguins> meh, I don't know about the GUI tools...are you using wireless-tools or wpa_supplicant?
[06:28] <mattwalston> jordan, move it...
[06:29] <vox754> MUTU, also try "sudo fdisk -l" to view your connected disks and partitions on them.
[06:29] <jordan> mattwalston (I emptied the trash..)
[06:29] <kalpik> jordan, then there is not much you can do!
[06:29] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: does this have anuthing to do with my hardware configuration??
[06:29] <mattwalston> jordan, use turn off computer and boot from some kind of boot media and learn how to use data forensics software...
[06:30] <defrysk> jordan, if its in the trash doubleclick the trashcan and drag and drop the file out, if the trashcan is empty its gone for good
[06:30] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: possibly. not sure really. look at the end of this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[06:30] <mattwalston> Is there a component certification program for ubuntu?
[06:31] <orbin> sandeepiyengar: we tried vga=791.  there are other settings there if you want to try them
[06:31] <Lambach> can someone plz help me w/ a grub error 15 , would make my day ... PM me plz
[06:31] <sandeepiyengar> orbin: ok da
[06:31] <vox754> type "blkid" and tell me if it gives you garbage... It is supposed to list the devices and their UUID
[06:31] <infbliss> hi all it seems that my cpu fan goes very fast when doing some processing-intensive operation
[06:31] <infbliss> in feisty
[06:31] <infbliss> is this a documented bug
[06:31] <ccamacho> is somebody here using the mac-style menu bar for gtk? (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868)
[06:31] <MUTU> once I edit fstab, does it get auto-processed or will i need to reboot?
[06:32] <infbliss> MUTU: do sudo umount -a
[06:32] <defrysk> MUTU, sudo mount -a should do
[06:32] <blackgraz> infbliss, i dont think ubuntu has control over your cpu fan
[06:32] <biouser> anyone connect to a hidden network on a regular basis?
[06:32] <biouser> there is no encryption
[06:32] <vox754> Lambach, I think that points to a missing Grub installation, you need to reinstall grub
[06:32] <defrysk> biouser, no never , never found one
[06:32] <infbliss> blackgraz: no i can easily recognize this. particularly while opening large documents in evince
[06:32] <vox754> !grub > Lambach
[06:33] <vagabon1> Anyone have a few minutes to help troubleshoot my sound problems - I have no sound at all and have tried numerous how-to and forum posts - I'd prefer a pm
[06:33] <infbliss> vagabon1: what sound card
[06:33] <orbin> biouser: i can connect to hidden networks, but i have to manually enter details
[06:33] <gglser> !burncds
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about burncds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <oly> hi, just done some test not only is one of my two cores not being used, it appears that the cpu is running at half its speed ?
[06:33] <biouser> orbin, do you use a network manager?
[06:33] <blackgraz> infbliss, thats hella strange
[06:33] <vox754> !burn
[06:33] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:33] <purplepenguins> by hidden you mean that it has no essid right?
[06:33] <orbin> biouser: i use the applet, yes
[06:33] <MUTU> defrysk: I did that and I do see the CDrive I put in fstab, but I see nothing inside it... no files no folders
[06:33] <CotH> In ndisgtk, what do I need to enter in for the "Use WPA" section; "Driver"?
[06:33] <biouser> orbin, which?
[06:34] <oly> any ideas as to the reason for these problems, i found the speed bit out using sysinfo program
[06:34] <infbliss> blackgraz: for me too. but it happens. where do i file this bug
[06:34] <LjL> !bugs
[06:34] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:34] <orbin> network manager applet (nm-applet)
[06:34] <defrysk> MUTU, pastebin your fstab
[06:34] <ccamacho> MUTU: open and close the drive
[06:34] <|chiz|> oly, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:34] <vox754> MUTU, "sudo umount -a"  and then "sudo mount -a"  one unmounts and the other mounts again
[06:34] <biouser> nm-applet, thanks orbin, I will try that, I usually use knetworkmanager, but it appears that there are confirmed bugs with hidden
[06:34] <oly> but cat /proc/cpuinfo  says its running at 1000 mhz it should be 2000 mhz at least
[06:35] <defrysk> MUTU, do what vox754 said
[06:35] <oly> i am using feisty
[06:35] <simpo> hi! how can i regenerate default program config file using dpkg or apt-get ??
[06:35] <javaes> #botafogo
[06:35] <orbin> biouser: nm-applet is the gnome equivalent of knetworkmanager afaik
[06:35] <MUTU> vox754: it froze when i did mount
[06:35] <oly> basically my computer is running at 1/4 its potential :p
[06:35] <orbin> biouser: not sure it would be much use if you run kde
[06:35] <vox754> MUTU, then probably your fstab was wrong
[06:36] <MUTU> but no errors?
[06:36] <oly> and i have no idea how to figure out why
[06:36] <|chiz|> oly, what does the command uname -a give you?
[06:36] <ccamacho> man uname
[06:36] <oly> Linux maud 2.6.20-15-386 #2 Sun Apr 15 07:34:00 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:36] <biouser> orbin, I run xfce with many gnome and kde apps
[06:36] <oly> that
[06:36] <MUTU> vox754: the terminal is acting as if it's a text editor... it's not accepting commands
[06:36] <gglser> hi all. I have 1 avi file which is 900 MB big. how can I split it in 2 parts so I can make 2 CDs? I only have 700MB CDs
[06:36] <defrysk> MUTU, ctrl-c
[06:36] <eAi> i'm confused with this grub stuff - I've got a volume mounted at /media/disk-1 - how do I install Grub on it?
[06:37] <orbin> biouser: it's an applet though.  unless you have a gnome panel running the notification area applet, i'm not sure how that would work in xfce
[06:37] <gglser> (I need to watch the CD on a DVD player afterwards)
[06:37] <MUTU> defrysk: nothing happens if i do that
[06:37] <vox754> MUTU, hit Control+Z
[06:37] <|chiz|> oly, you need to use the generic kernel or the 686 kernel to have dual core work
[06:37] <Yggdrasil> anyoneknow how the eth's get aliased , i have an eth1 and 2 but no 0
[06:38] <MUTU> ctrl+z does nothing either
[06:38] <Yggdrasil> oly run something hard, then check it
[06:38] <Yggdrasil> its scaling?
[06:38] <EhPrettyEasy> I need help with the installation.
[06:38] <oly> okay will also check which kernals i have installed
[06:39] <oly> thought there was only one now in feisty :p
[06:39] <EhPrettyEasy> When in part 4/7 there is 4 options for me,.
[06:39] <|chiz|> oly, I'm guessing its scaling, mine only shows 1000 mhz right now when its to is 1600
[06:39] <|chiz|> oly, you should be using the generic kernel
[06:39] <KnowledgEngineer> hello
[06:39] <drivera90> All these people that get MMORPGs running in Ubuntu, how do they do it?
[06:40] <oly> ah, yeah it is scaling
[06:40] <|chiz|> oly, what cpu do you have btw?
[06:40] <KnowledgEngineer> how can i creare new user with home directory and importing the audio ???
[06:40] <oly> is the kernel thing why i only get one of the cores ?
[06:40] <oly> amd x2 3800+
[06:40] <Holliday> Hello
[06:40] <Pure_Neon> hi all.  just downloaded 7.04 to install on a new system. attempted to install but getting a CRC error and the system is halting. The system is a Athlon64 3200+ .  I have searched the forum and attempted the noapic option but it still gives the error.  this happens with both the 64bit and the 32bit disks.
[06:40] <|chiz|> oly, the kernel thing is likely the reason for just one core
[06:41] <rambo3> crc checksum ?
[06:41] <|chiz|> oly, 386 is for really old cpus
[06:41] <oly> ah okay tanks for that info
[06:41] <CotH> In ndisgtk, what do I need to enter in for the "Use WPA" section; "Driver"?
[06:41] <oly> just moved generic to top of my list
[06:41] <biouser> orbin, can I apt-get something?
[06:41] <Yggdrasil> chiz what should i use for a centrino ,kernel ?
[06:41] <eAi> i dont get how to find the hd number for installing grub...
[06:41] <defrysk> generic
[06:41] <defrysk> Yggdrasil,
[06:41] <tom__>  outlier
[06:42] <oly> in menu.lst thanks for your help |chiz| will go try it out now :)
[06:42] <rambo3> Pure_Neon, crc is udp error , does it say anything more or specific ? did you try alternate cd ?
[06:42] <orbin> biouser: ?
[06:42] <Yggdrasil> 2.6.20-15-generic ?
[06:42] <vox754> CotH, that is just a frontend to ndiswrapper, I would advice you to follow the help section in the ndiswrapper project page or following some guide in the forums
[06:42] <biouser> orbin, for nm-applet?
[06:42] <snowpunk98> I just downloaded a checkgmail SVN I want to use over the stable one I installed from the repository, can someone tell me where to move the file so I can run it at startup?
[06:42] <|chiz|> Yggdrasil, I have a Centrino Duo and its running fine with the generic kernel but before the generic kernel I would have to install the 686 kernel to get both cores working
[06:43] <Micc> Does ben hill hang out on this channel?
[06:43] <b52> someone knows why the partition tool of the installtion tries to write to the cd when im managing my lvm?
[06:43] <koudelka> is there any graphical tools for formatting hdds in ubuntu?
[06:43] <biouser> orbin, I have network-manager and network-manager-gnome
[06:43] <Pure_Neon> rambo3: that is the alternate cd.  it does not give an error.  it loads the initrd.gz the screen goes blank and then bombs out
[06:43] <Yggdrasil> i see
[06:43] <mEck0> which RSS-reader for Gnome is the "best"?
[06:43] <CotH> vox754: Thanks.  I was looking for a guide to ndisgtk itself
[06:43] <biouser> orbin, I just can't connect to a hidden wireless network for some reason
[06:43] <Holliday> I am having terrible trouble with nVidia drivers. When ubuntu loads I hear the drums but the monitor has no output (light on stand-by). I've tried added the _"refresh rate" to the end of my resolutions and no go.
[06:43] <Holliday> As well as disabled EDID
[06:44] <Holliday> Installed in a variety of ways, the current from a clean install of feisty fawn and with Envy.
[06:44] <vox754> CotH, there is really no point in using ndisgtk (horrible name). All of this can be done in the terminal without problems. It gives you further insight
[06:44] <orbin> biouser: network-manager-gnome provides the applet
[06:44] <Yggdrasil> is it nv or nvidia driver ?
[06:44] <b52> someone knows why the partition tool of the installtion tries to write to the cd when im managing my lvm?
[06:45] <biouser> does anyone know how to configure pppoe?
[06:45] <Holliday> When I edit xorg.conf and change it to "nv" it works fine. But no desktop effects. If its "nvidia" I get the no output.
[06:45] <eAi> how do i convert the "/dev/sda6' into hdX,Y format?
[06:45] <cyzie> where do i set the buffer for history ?
[06:45] <Holliday> I've gotten it to a point where I get a very jumbled screen that says X windows system failed to load, check if your driver and X windows version are the most current, they are.
[06:45] <|chiz|> Holliday, have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:46] <r3dragon> is there a parameter in the about:config file (firefox v1.5) that will time out http links that hang?
[06:46] <albert> !usb
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <soundray> gglser: still here?
[06:46] <jul1609> hello
[06:46] <albert> hmm, has anybody the proper command to mount an usb-stick/mp3-player?
[06:46] <joekilne1> Hello. Simple question. I want to serve up xemacs (using SSH -X) from a remote server I administer, but I want to install as little X related stuff as possible. What package should I install?
[06:46] <Holliday> Ah no I haven't. Lemmie give that a shot
[06:47] <Yggdrasil> holiday
[06:47] <Holliday> Hmm?
[06:47] <gglser> soundray: yeah. no worry though. it doesnt work but the PC is fine now
[06:47] <biouser> anyone know how to input pppoe?
[06:47] <eAi> you here soundray? (sorry to nag!)
[06:47] <soundray> gglser: nvidia cards tend to be supported a bit better. Just for future reference
[06:48] <soundray> eAi: pleased to help if I can
[06:48] <rambo3> Pure_Neon, yeah thats strange error . it might be some hardware error .   try changing IDE channel or run memory test
[06:48] <gglser> soundray: roger that. thanks!
[06:48] <Yggdrasil> nvidia driver comes from nvidia.com u have to install it. also vi /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:48] <SlimG> How do I start (from terminal) an application (ex.: firefox) in one of the 3 other desktop's (ex.: #2) in my session?
[06:48] <Yggdrasil> and read it
[06:48] <eAi> I don't know how to get the name for the my hard disk to install Grub to it
[06:48] <biouser> setup* pppoe?
[06:48] <b52> someone knows why the partition tool of the installtion tries to write to the cd when im managing my lvm?
[06:48] <eAi> it has to be hdX,Y, but I don't know where to find that
[06:48] <jul1609> I have just reinstalled feisty after installing a new video card, which works perfectly with compiz beryl and the lot. After I came here about a month ago with a sound card that didn't play any sound (neither at start up, use or logoff), my sound card was working, but now, as I did a fresh install, I have lost the sound. Can anyone help me, please?
[06:48] <vox754> !devilspie | SlimG
[06:48] <ubotu> SlimG: devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[06:49] <SlimG> thanks vox754!
[06:49] <pipatron> jul1609: You should have remembered to write down the info you got the last time :)
[06:49] <eAi> soundray, did you see my messages in all that?
[06:49] <jul1609> I know :(
[06:49] <Pure_Neon> rambo3: the system dare i say it is currently running windows XP without any problems (im talking to you on it now).  i will reboot and try and older version and/or a different distro and see if i get the same error.
[06:50] <jul1609> kinda idiot from me. Mea culpa
[06:50] <soundray> eAi: yes, saw it just now. Use my nickname to make sure.
[06:50] <vox754> b52, no clue... keep asking but not so often
[06:50] <b52> :p
[06:50] <rambo3> Pure_Neon, do so
[06:50] <jul1609> hoever, now, I have a paper and a pencil at hand, I'm all ready
[06:50] <jul1609> :)
[06:50] <Holliday> hmmm
[06:50] <soundray> eAi: your internal disk and the install target for grub should always be "(hd0)" with the parenthesis. No comma.
[06:50] <Holliday> I see near the end of the .log file Failt to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[06:50] <eAi> soundray: my new boot volume is /dev/sda6
[06:51] <Holliday> Envy apparently downloads all the drivers though.
[06:51] <eAi> soundray, maybe I'm confused
[06:51] <vagabon1> Can anyone suggest a how-to, forum post, or other resource that has helped them to get sound working in feisty? - I have a creative labs SB audigy souncard.
[06:51] <soundray> eAi: that's the only internal disk, correct?
[06:51] <eAi> soundray, i've created this new small partition on my internal disk
[06:51] <Yggdrasil> go 2 nvidia.com
[06:51] <rambo3> vagabon1, alsa homepage
[06:51] <joekilne1> Did no one see my question or does no one know the answer?
[06:51] <soundray> eAi: a bit of an explanation:
[06:51] <eAi> soundray, yes, but with 3 partitions (Though fdisk shows 4)
[06:51] <Yggdrasil> and use lspci to figure out wich card/driver u need
[06:52] <soundray> eAi: yeah...
[06:52] <soundray> eAi: do you want the long story? If you do, we should meet in #ubuntu-classroom
[06:52] <vox754> joekilne1, just repeat the question, don't ask if someone whatever....
[06:52] <eAi> soundray, sure
[06:53] <pipatron> So hm, I get excited, read that WPA should work out of the box in new versions of Ubuntu. I check that my wlan-chip (Intel PRO 2100) should be supported out of the box, but still it doesn't work
[06:53] <jul1609> now I went to /etc/modules to add a snd_pcm at the end, I thought that was it, but no result. Module is intel8x0, it seems to be installed this time. I was told yeasterday that the kernel was supposed to handle it out of the box, yet nada. Obviously, I've checked the trivia (not mute? right file format?) before doing anything
[06:53] <pipatron> Are people just randomly lying just to make people install ubuntu or what's happening? :P
[06:53] <dawkins> What is the best Ubuntu equivalent of DVDshrink?
[06:53] <rambo3> jul1609, what card ?
[06:53] <jul1609> so apparently, the sound card just doesn't boot
[06:54] <joekilne1> vox754: I know but hey I got your attention ;) I have a remote server I want to serve up xemacs (installed) over ssh - what is the minimum Xserver stuff I need to install on the server (not got much memory or HD so I don't want to waste any).
[06:54] <jul1609> hum, intel something...
[06:54] <pipatron> (my intel wlan card shows up with lspci and iwconfig)
[06:54] <vox754> joekilne1, oh, yeah, I saw, not clue... I'm a vim person
[06:54] <mcphail> dawkins: k9copy? dvdshrink via wine?
[06:54] <orbin> pipatron: does iwlist scan show your network?
[06:55] <joekilne1> vox754: Oh, Vim? can't they treat these days... ;)
[06:55] <vox754> joekilne1, actually I was thinking of some xorg package, maybe xorg-xserver, something like that, use "aptitude search xorg"
[06:55] <jul1609> Intel 82801 ICH4?
[06:55] <pipatron> orbin: Yes.
[06:55] <Oewyn> Can anyone help me change the physical resolution of my screen, i'm trying to get FF to display properly on a projector.
[06:55] <rambo3> jul1609, did you try with buggy driver ?
[06:55] <jul1609> no?
[06:55] <orbin> pipatron: try and connect using the network manager applet then
[06:56] <jul1609> buggy driver?
[06:56] <BigMac> Does anyone think that reinstalling ubuntu and following a wifi guide over again is a logical solution to fix this wifi problem?
[06:56] <dawkins> What about an equivalent for DVDdecrypter?
[06:56] <tarzeau> BigMac: no
[06:56] <pipatron> orbin: I have been trying to, it shows up there but I can only select WEP
[06:56] <BigMac> tarzeau: Why so?
[06:56] <rambo3> jul1609, wait i ll give you my config
[06:56] <jul1609> (I'm sorry, I come from Mac OSX, I'm very stupid :$)
[06:56] <tarzeau> BigMac: reinstalling is only good for microsoft software
[06:56] <BigMac> tarzeau: nobody has any other ideas
[06:56] <orbin> pipatron: screenshot of dialog please
[06:56] <tarzeau> BigMac: just configure the stuff properly. i don't have wifi, thus can't help sorry
[06:57] <vox754> !info xserver-xorg-core > joekilne1
[06:57] <jul1609> rambo3: ok
[06:57] <orbin> pipatron: chuck it on something like imageshack.us if you need a host
[06:57] <LordGreyhound> is it possible to share my internet connection through bluetooth ?
[06:57] <Oewyn> pipatron: are you using the network manager, or the system->admin->network tool?
[06:57] <rambo3> jul1609, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=884808
[06:57] <vox754> !info xserver-xorg > joekilne1
[06:57] <mjr> LordGreyhound, yes, though there's no "easy" tools for that
[06:57] <BigMac> tarzeau: If only it was that easy, if it could be configured properly I would have done it
[06:57] <pipatron> Oewyn: system->admin->network, how can I find the "network manager"
[06:57] <Holliday> Ha, I got stuck in ircii's /help menu and couldn't get out.
[06:57] <LordGreyhound> damn... it's pretty easy in XP :))
[06:57] <Falstius> mjr: firestarter might let him do it, assuming the bluetooth is treated as an ETH device.
[06:57] <mcphail> BigMac: what was the problem?
[06:57] <Holliday> Ok I downloading the linux driver, install as per their instructions?
[06:58] <Oewyn> pipatron: there should be an icon on the top-right, dending on what you have connected it should look like 5 bars, or a computer.
[06:58] <Falstius> LordGreyhound: you might try firestarter, I don't know how bluetooth shows up in Linux, but if it is a network device it should be straightforward.
[06:58] <jul1609> rambo3: should I check the same files to see if that's it?
[06:58] <joekilne1> vox754: Cheers. I think that looks about right.
[06:58] <vox754> !info xorg > joekilne1
[06:58] <LordGreyhound> good :D
[06:58] <jul1609> I have a fresh install (about 30 minutes old, really fresh)
[06:58] <mjr> Falstius, yes, using BNEP for bluetooth networking it's an ethernet device, but that needs to be set up too...
[06:58] <BigMac> mcphail: I have a broadcom chip set wlan card which will not work no matter what method is used so far
[06:58] <Floker> #trivia
[06:58] <pipatron> Oewyn: I can only find one icon regarding networking, it looks like two screens, and the popup says "Manual network configuration"
[06:58] <rambo3> jul1609, no they are not the same , backup your config and paste that .
[06:58] <vox754> joekilne1, all thanks to vim!
[06:58] <BigMac> mcphail: but it works in windows
[06:59] <jul1609> ok
[06:59] <jul1609> brb
[06:59] <LordGreyhound> that's how I connect my notebook to the internet.. through a bluettoh device.. I just share my internet connection and the notebook connects through it
[06:59] <mcphail> BigMac: "not work" being...?
[06:59] <pipatron> Oewyn: The only thing I can chose from it is "Manual configuration"
[06:59] <orbin> pipatron: that's it
[06:59] <pipatron> orbin: It takes me to the network settings
[06:59] <pipatron> orbin: Which still only shows WEP
[06:59] <BigMac> mcphail: Umm, not possible to connect to any networks and is no longer showing up under network in system>admin
[06:59] <orbin> pipatron: sorry, meant thats the applet
[06:59] <mjr> LordGreyhound, incidentally there's two common ways to do IP over BT: BNEP is the "wlanish" way and DUN is a sort of mock dial-up connection such as you see on phones
[06:59] <mjr> HTH
[07:00] <Falstius> LordGreyhound: so the laptop is xp still and the desktop linux?
[07:00] <orbin> pipatron: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager  see the section about configuring devices
[07:00] <Holliday> Ah gotta get out of x windows, brb
[07:00] <b52> :p
[07:00] <LordGreyhound> nope.. they're STILL both XP
[07:00] <mcphail> BigMac: are you running Feisty?
[07:00] <b52> someone knows why the partition tool of the installtion tries to write to the cd when im managing my lvm?
[07:00] <mjr> both _can_ be set up, just that better know which you need :] 
[07:00] <jul1609> rambo3: I paste it at the end, WITH all the rest or as replacement of the rest?
[07:00] <BigMac> mcphail: yes
[07:00] <pipatron> orbin: The thing is that I don't have network to that computer, I was kinda trusting the words that it should work :P
[07:00] <Falstius> LordGreyhound: well, you are considering moving the desktop to linux then
[07:00] <KnowledgEngineer> hello
[07:00] <LordGreyhound> but I'm thinking of switching to ubuntu and I want to make sure everything's gonna work as it should
[07:00] <mcphail> BigMac: and do you have a wired ethernet connection plugged in?
[07:01] <pipatron> orbin: I guess I have to plug in a cable then
[07:01] <KnowledgEngineer> i added a new user, but the audio do not work
[07:01] <BigMac> mcphail: Yes currently
[07:01] <KnowledgEngineer> how can i import the audio?
[07:01] <rambo3> jul1609, replace
[07:01] <jul1609> ok
[07:01] <mcphail> BigMac: is this the computer you are irc'ing from just now?
[07:01] <Falstius> LordGreyhound: you could test it with the liveCD ... just make good notes because you'll have to do it all over again after you install :)
[07:01] <jiping> really?
[07:01] <BigMac> mcphail: Yes
[07:02] <mcphail> BigMac: if you get the wireless connection set up will you use the wired connection at all?
[07:02] <LordGreyhound> I just came out of the live CD (and I liked it too :D) and i didn't see any bluetooth settings
[07:02] <BigMac> mcphail: No
[07:02] <hammedhaaret> Hi... how can i unpack rar files?  saw there was an rar-thingy in synaptic but didn't like the 'register after 40 days'
[07:02] <Oewyn> Can anyone help me?  I need to change the physical resolution of my screen, setting resolutions in xorg.conf aren't changing the physical screen resolution, all i get is mouse  - panning.
[07:02] <LordGreyhound> I managed to get the network to work though :)
[07:02] <Falstius> LordGreyhound: you probably have to install it.  You can install stuff on the liveCD, it just won't be there when you reboot.
[07:02] <tweako> anyone here use the samsung blackjack w/ internet sharing on ubuntu?
[07:02] <albert> hi, where (filesystem) are my usb-ports located?
[07:02] <tweako> is it possible?
[07:03] <brk3> hey just upgraded to feisty and compiz works great except i lose the window decorations when i enable it.. anyone know an easy fix for this?
[07:03] <mcphail> BigMac: the network-manager applet is a rather annoying feature which is probably giving you your grief
[07:03] <bruenig> brk3, #ubuntu-effects
[07:03] <brk3> cheers
[07:03] <schrollini> KnowledgEngineer: Is the new user a member of the 'audio' group?
[07:03] <BigMac> mcphail: Ok how can I fix it?
[07:03] <hammedhaaret> Oewyn: if you have installed nvidia driver try to press Alt+F2 and write nvidia-settings
[07:03] <mcphail> BigMac: I'd suggest trying "sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.old"
[07:03] <Mookie> albert: If you mounted them, it's usually /proc/bus/usb
[07:03] <KnowledgEngineer> schrollini, i do not know
[07:03] <mcphail> BigMac: then "sudo touch /etc/network/interfaces"
[07:03] <tommy_> hhey:
[07:04] <albert> Mookie, i need to mount my mp3-player
[07:04] <KnowledgEngineer> i just types: adduser username
[07:04] <jul1609> rambo3: I don't have the .asoundrc file
[07:04] <mcphail> BigMac: (unplug your wired connection first..)
[07:04] <KnowledgEngineer> i just typeD: adduser username
[07:04] <albert> Mookie, so i need some location for the "mount" command
[07:04] <Oewyn> hammedhaaret: I'm not using an nvidia card
[07:04] <mcphail> BigMac: log out, then log nabk in again
[07:04] <BigMac> before the first step?
[07:04] <Pure_Neon> rambo3: just tried to boot using 6.06 alternate and everything booted fine.
[07:04] <BigMac> or second
[07:04] <Mookie> albert: try "sudo mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb"
[07:04] <LordGreyhound> Falstius: I'll give it a try
[07:04] <KnowledgEngineer> schrollini, i know that exist a command for import the audio
[07:04] <mcphail> BigMac: no, after you have done everything else
[07:04] <LordGreyhound> I'm downloading kubuntu as we speak
[07:04] <KnowledgEngineer> but i forget this command
[07:04] <LordGreyhound> gonna give that a try too :D
[07:05] <hammedhaaret> Oewyn: ok... can't help you then.. it was what i was told when i asked.
[07:05] <aventin> orbin: you still here?
[07:05] <mcphail> BigMac: (hopefully) network manager will allow you to connect after this
[07:05] <orbin> aventin: yes
[07:05] <sys03> Hi installed KDE but thats 2 heavy for my machine so installed Xfce.. now how do i start fluxbox from terminal,, whenever i type startx it brings up KDE.. however i want to start Fluxbox..
[07:05] <albert> Mookie, ty
[07:05] <mcphail> BigMac: if not, mv the /etc/network/interfaces.old back again and plug in and rejoin irc
[07:05] <jul1609> rambo3: should I create the .asoundrc file?
[07:05] <rambo3> Pure_Neon, yeah i have kind of same problem with feisty on my laptop. reinstalled it 7 times . And finaly installed debian and it worked
[07:06] <jul1609> /home/User/.asoundrc?
[07:06] <Falstius> LordGreyhound: good luck.
[07:06] <rambo3> jul1609, yes its for sound shareing
[07:06] <schrollini> KnowledgEngineer: You can try running 'groups <username>', where <username> is the name of the user you created
[07:06] <jul1609> ok
[07:06] <jul1609> ty
[07:06] <schrollini> see if it has audio
[07:06] <bruenig> schrollini, new users will have audio
[07:07] <mcphail> BigMac: i have spent a _long_ time being frustrated by this...
[07:07] <aventin> orbin: just wanted to see what you thought. i tried changing the DMA flag the way one of the guides told me to. this is the results: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20514/
[07:07] <jul1609> done
[07:07] <KnowledgEngineer> schrollini, user@ubuntu:~$ groups rosario
[07:07] <KnowledgEngineer> rosario : rosario
[07:07] <jul1609> now reboot?
[07:07] <Mookie> Rhythymbox Music Player question. How does it get meta-data info? I imported my library of *.frac files but it isn't detecting Album or Artist information.
[07:07] <KnowledgEngineer> rosario is the new user
[07:07] <rambo3> jul1609, yes
[07:07] <sys03> Hi installed KDE but thats 2 heavy for my machine so installed Xfce.. now how do i start fluxbox from terminal,, whenever i type startx it brings up KDE.. however i want to start Fluxbox..
[07:07] <jul1609> ok
[07:07] <jul1609> brb
[07:07] <jul1609> thank you
[07:07] <orbin> mcphail: aren't at least the lo lines required in interfaces?
[07:07] <rambo3> jul1609, wait
[07:07] <sys03> i mean i installed flux
[07:07] <mcphail> orbin: i think they get recreated by the network manage, do they not?
[07:07] <hammedhaaret> Hi again... how can i unpack rar files?  saw there was an rar-thingy in synaptic but didn't like the 'register after 40 days'
[07:08] <orbin> mcphail: i don't know. :)
[07:08] <schrollini> KnowledgEngineer: It looks to me that he isn't a member of the audio group, which might be the problem
[07:08] <bruenig> schrollini, your conception of an audio group comes from another distro I presume, that group doesn't exist in ubuntu, they don't have all the different groups for video and audio and such
[07:08] <mirf> my bittorrent package is broken and every time I want to install software it automatically wants to remove bittorrent and ascociated files including gnome-desktop, I understand this would be rather painful.  How can I fix it?
[07:08] <Mookie> hammedhaaret: I will assume the file browser doesn't support it. i.e. That you already checked?
[07:08] <Pure_Neon> rambo3: ok. thanks anyway. will wait for a bit and see if it gets fixed
[07:08] <KnowledgEngineer> then i need to add the new user in the audio group?
[07:08] <mcphail> orbin: i'm afraid this was a "works for me" solution...
[07:09] <BigMac> mcphail: no go
[07:09] <orbin> aventin: well it's complaining it can't enable dma.  which doesn't surprise me from the earlier business.
[07:09] <mcphail> BigMac: ok, tell me what happened
[07:09] <hammedhaaret> Mookie: yup... you assumed correctly
[07:09] <rambo3> Pure_Neon, it wont be fixed . last message from Ubuntu  bug report told me i have bad motherboard or cpu . WinXP and Debian work.
[07:09] <Mookie> hammedhaaret: I do not have a specific recommendation for you, I'm afraid. I would be reduced to googling for a good tool myself.
[07:09] <schrollini> bruenig: Really?  On my install i am member of audio group.  Is that not standard?
[07:10] <drivera90> Should I update to Feisty?
[07:10] <BigMac> mcphail: I booted up, left clicked the icon and wireless connection was greyed out
[07:10] <bruenig> I could have sworn they didn't do that
[07:10] <aventin> orbin: yeah. i just wanted to let you know that you were right. ;)
[07:10] <BigMac> mcphail: no networks available for connecting to listed their either
[07:10] <bruenig> I haven't used it in quite some time so maybe I am losing touch a bit
[07:10] <hammedhaaret> Mookie: thx anyway... I'll try google too then
[07:11] <mcphail> BigMac: that is annoying.
[07:11] <KnowledgEngineer> schrollini, sudo jed group
[07:11] <KnowledgEngineer> from: audio:x:29:user
[07:11] <mcphail> BigMac: are you using WPA?
[07:11] <sys03> Hi installed KDE but thats 2 heavy for my machine so installed fluxbox.. now how do i start fluxbox from terminal,, whenever i type startx it brings up KDE.. however i want to start Fluxbox..
[07:11] <BigMac> mcphail: Quite
[07:11] <KnowledgEngineer> to: audio:x:29:user, newuser
[07:11] <KnowledgEngineer> correct?
[07:11] <Pure_Neon> rambo3: oh, there are a few people from what i can gather so this news is very disapointing. thanks anyway for the help
[07:11] <BigMac> mcphail: No, their may be WEP security on it but I highly doubt it
[07:12] <troxor> sys03: edit your ~/.xinitrc
[07:12] <schrollini> Unfortunately, I don't know how to fix it offhand.
[07:12] <jul1609> rambo3: still there?
[07:12] <illu> Hi
[07:12] <cyberia> hi, anyone here got an idea how to make name resolution possible, without using /etc/hosts or dns. i can't reach my windows clients via name and i dont really want to run a dns.
[07:12] <orbin> aventin: are you sure it's an ide drive?
[07:12] <mcphail> BigMac: then it might be better to restore your old /etc/network/interfaces file and get rid of network-manager altogether. Configure by hand
[07:12] <rambo3> jul1609, yeh what
[07:12] <jul1609> rambo3: that did not solve the prob :(
[07:12] <troxor> cyberia: mdns?
[07:12] <Oewyn> cyberia: dydns
[07:12] <estuart> to na area
[07:13] <mcphail> BigMac: I'm not sure how to do this, but some peole on here have reported success
[07:13] <estuart> maluco
[07:13] <illu> How can I join irc.codersnet.org in XChat IRC for Gnome?
[07:13] <cyberia> a little bit more detail? ;)
[07:13] <BigMac> mcphail: I would prefer to keep the manager if possible
[07:13] <rambo3> jul1609, run speaker-test
[07:13] <schrollini> If you know what to do to add a user to a group, do it.
[07:13] <aventin> orbin: as sure that i can be while not  having built the laptop myself. :)
[07:13] <NrbelexUbuntu> What's the easiest way to burn an .ISO in Ubuntu?
[07:13] <BigMac> mcphail *sigh* thanks for your help
[07:13] <Oswy> Hi, how do I (preferably safely) expand my HD partition through terminal?
[07:13] <Oewyn> cyberia: if you use a router, it can be set up to automatically connect to dydns.com log in, and update your ip address
[07:13] <mcphail> BigMac: have you tried rebooting with the wired card disconnected?
[07:13] <jul1609> no sound
[07:13] <Oewyn> so for example you could have oewyn.gotdns.com
[07:13] <Oewyn> and that would resolve to your IP address always.
[07:14] <Oewyn> w/out running a DNS
[07:14] <schrollini> My guess would be addgroup, or use the GUI System|Administration|Users
[07:14] <jul1609> it's trying something on front left
[07:14] <phy2> NrbelexUbuntu -- I installed kb3 and it worked well
[07:14] <NrbelexUbuntu> phy2, thanks
[07:14] <cyberia> Oewyn: a yeah, i already got that running. but i got another problem, its in my lan ;-)
[07:14] <BigMac> mcphail: No I don't tamper with the innards of this computer
[07:14] <elreydelmambo> hi do you know any program like wmedia player for ubuntu?
[07:14] <cyberia> i cant reach my windows clients via name that are in the same network
[07:14] <phy2> NrbelexUbuntu -- put the iso somewhere, and burn image, if I remember corectly
[07:14] <mcphail> BigMac: no, i mean with the cat5 cable unplugged?
[07:14] <Oswy> How do I (preferably safely) expand my HD partition through terminal?
[07:14] <troxor> Oswy: `parted` for partition expanding, `resize2fs` (I think) for online ext3 expanding, or LVM
[07:15] <Oswy> k
[07:15] <Oewyn> cyberia: oh locally.
[07:15] <Oswy> I'll mess around with that a bit, thanks.
[07:15] <Mookie> NrbelexUbuntu: I usually go with "dd" command.  "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=mycd.iso"
[07:15] <cyberia> Oewyn: y
[07:15] <KnowledgEngineer> how can i add the user "newuser" in the audio group ?
[07:15] <NrbelexUbuntu> How's GNOMWBaker?
[07:15] <lupo> KnowledgEngineer: adduser newuser audio
[07:15] <NrbelexUbuntu> *GNOMEBaker
[07:15] <rambo3> jul1609, ok if you dont hear sound cancel it ctrl+c . Are you shure its not muted ? run alsamixer and see that there are no (m) muted channels that you need
[07:16] <cyberia> Oewyn: afaik linux uses the /etc/hosts file and DNS, while windows uses broadcasts and WINS as well
[07:16] <Oewyn> cyberia: probably the easiest way is to set it in your /etc/hosts file, but you don't want to do that.
[07:16] <jul1609> I've just done it, not mute either :s
[07:16] <KnowledgEngineer> lupo: newuser already exist
[07:16] <marshall> anybody in here ever used pixel image editor?
[07:16] <orbin> aventin: i don't know how to help you further sorry.  try the forum perhaps.
[07:16] <Mookie> NrbelexUbuntu: I've used Gnomebaker, but usually for ripping. Never used it to make an ISO.
[07:16] <BigMac> mcphail: Yah I did that this time
[07:16] <MUTU> I added my SATA hard disk in /etc/fstab... I did rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,user,async ... however it still does not allow me to view the contents of the drive. it keeps telling me permission denied.
[07:16] <kkathman> when i go to certain sites that are playing music, I am not getting the music, but I seem to be able to watch videos with sound just fine.  Is there something I need to install?
[07:16] <jul1609> (JUST done it)
[07:16] <KnowledgEngineer> i need to remode the user and readd using your command
[07:16] <cyberia> Oewyn: maybe there is a way to let i use broadcasts or wins?
[07:16] <NrbelexUbuntu> Well I'll let ya'll know how it goes
[07:16] <aventin> orbin: yeah, i'll do that. you've been most kind and very helpful. thanks everything!
[07:17] <orbin> aventin: sure, sorry i couldn't resolve it
[07:17] <leetwanker> is there someplace that provides support for LinuxMCE?
[07:17] <lupo> KnowledgEngineer: check the /etc/group file that newuser isn't already there in audio
[07:17] <Oewyn> cyberia: pretty sure there is a hosts file in windows too, would have to google it though.
[07:17] <mcphail> BigMac: guess you'll just have to play around with it. Funny thing is, the Feisty-beta worked perfectly 1st time for me, then an update broke everything
[07:17] <arkanabar>  I'm trying to get my nvidia drivers to work; should I be here or in a different channel?
[07:17] <cyberia> in windows there sure
[07:17] <MUTU> Oewyn: yes there is a HOSTS file in Windows
[07:17] <cyberia> but i dont want to add all the hosts by hand
[07:17] <cyberia> but troxor said s.th. about mdns
[07:18] <cyberia> that looks interesting
[07:18] <BigMac> mcphail well thanks for your help anyway
[07:18] <Oswy> OK, how do I check my HD devices/partitions?
[07:18] <jul1609> I think the previous solution had something to do with modules (if that can help)
[07:18] <MUTU> I added my SATA hard disk in /etc/fstab... I did rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,user,async ... however it still does not allow me to view the contents of the drive. it keeps telling me permission denied. How do I view my hard disk contents pls?
[07:18] <schrollini> KnowledgEngineer: I think the GNOME System|Administration|Users dialog may be able to change that info
[07:18] <troxor> cyberia: avahi for linux/bsd, zeroconf for mac, and they probably have a version for windows, but who's really interested in /that/ os? ;) j/k
[07:18] <schrollini> But I don't know the command line tools offhand
[07:18] <Shin_Gouki> hi there whats an appropriate equivalent to WinRar on Linux??
[07:18] <schrollini> Sorry
[07:19] <jul1609> That was cool it was just like "add that in [the file which name i just cant recall] " and the reboot et voila
[07:19] <cyberia> Oewyn: i'll read some more about that, thanks for your help
[07:19] <orbin> Oswy: sudo fdisk -l
[07:19] <troxor> Shin_Gouki: `unrar`
[07:19] <Oswy> orbin: thx
[07:19] <DomZ113> Has anybody got 5 minutes to help me install "Listen" from source?
[07:19] <cyberia> troxor: my router is running openwrt, so i can run it there
[07:20] <troxor> Shin_Gouki: ark for kde should use it, and file-roller in gnome for gui options
[07:20] <cyberia> troxor: and i really dont need mdns for windows hehe
[07:20] <rambo3> jul1609, ?
[07:20] <jul1609> yes?
[07:20] <Holliday> Arg, I am trying to install this nvidia driver but it needs to be installed without X running. So I reboot into command line then it complains the run level is too low, so I got to run level 3 "telinit 3" and that loads X window
[07:20] <rambo3> jul1609, did you fix sound
[07:20] <cyberia> troxor: but there are some implementations for java ;-)
[07:20] <jul1609> last month yes
[07:20] <jul1609> now with this fresh install, no
[07:21] <arkanabar> I need the "nvidia-settings" package, and I can't find it.  I did find the "nvidia-glx-legacy package" but it won't install
[07:21] <MUTU> will anyone help me pls? :( I added my SATA hard disk in /etc/fstab... I did rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,user,async ... however it still does not allow me to view the contents of the drive. it keeps telling me permission denied. How do I view my hard disk contents pls?
[07:21] <orbin> Holliday: are you following the wiki?
[07:21] <Holliday> Which wiki?
[07:21] <Mookie> How does Rhythmbox identify a music file ID to retrieve meta data? My imported music shows me no Album or Artist info.
[07:21] <orbin> Holliday: and you could have killed X with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:22] <orbin> Holliday: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:22] <Holliday> I was following the Nvidia directions.
[07:22] <troxor> MUTU: what are the permissions on the mountpoint directory?
[07:22] <rambo3> jul1609, http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Intel#matrix .
[07:22] <jamesb2147> can anyone here help me with my grub booting problem?
[07:22] <MUTU> troxor: umm... i did sudo mkdir cdrive in /mnt
[07:23] <orbin> Holliday: i suggest following the ubuntu instructions
[07:23] <nom_> y does my sound not work on youtube but it works on runescape
[07:23] <troxor> cyberia: yep, mdns/avahi/zeroconf is pretty sweet
[07:23] <Holliday> Ah ok, i'll head through this first then, thanks.
[07:23] <MUTU> troxor: how do I give myself access to the mount folder?
[07:23] <jul1609> rambo3: ok, I see the bastard, what do I do with it?
[07:23] <Shin_Gouki> -_- which application supports *.cbr files under linux??
[07:23] <odat> anyone know how to load an alsa module on startup?
[07:24] <arkanabar> Orbin:  I'm following these instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/graphics-cards.html -- but I can't find the nvidia-settings package
[07:24] <nom_> y does my sound not work on youtube but it works on runescape
[07:24] <Oswy> I can't find the correct number for the partition in sudo fdisk -l, where is it?
[07:24] <troxor> MUTU: it's probably owned by root:root... sudo chown <youruserhere>:<yourgrouphere> /mnt/cdrive , depending on the security you want for it, sudo chmod u+rwx /mnt/cdrive
[07:24] <mapez> nom_ it probably has something to do with YouTube using flash and Runescape using JAVA. Check your flash configurations?
[07:25] <Oswy> It doesn't seem to be the device number, nor the ID.
[07:25] <MUTU> troxor: I want read/write access to it
[07:25] <nom_> how do i check flash config.
[07:25] <DomZ113> Does anyone know/want to help me compile "Listen" music player from source
[07:25] <vecina> Every time I log in, I have to first sudo aptitude reinstall pal, hal, and dbus. If I dont, high graphics crash my computer, and nothing will automount. Does anyone have any idea why these things are getting erased?
[07:25] <Holliday> Ah wait I have tried this. Nothing shows up in the feisty fawn "Restricted Devices" window.
[07:25] <schrollini> Can someone help me mount a Compact Flash card?
[07:25] <Holliday> Rather it says I have none.
[07:26] <Oswy> !help partition
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help partition - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <orbin> arkanabar: (1) i don't have an nvidia card (2) are you running edgy?
[07:26] <Kael_> salut tous et toutes
[07:26] <Gearman> anyone I have laptop how do u get ext mon to work please help
[07:26] <nom_> !help flash
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help flash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <Kael_> hi all
[07:26] <arkanabar> orbin: 2, yes.  I saw you were trying to help Holliday, who seems to have a similar problem
[07:26] <nom_> how do i check flash config.
[07:26] <troxor> MUTU: if you only want one user to have read/write access, chmod u+rw /mnt/cdrive, and chown user /mnt/cdrive.. if you want a group of users to have access, chown root:groupname /mnt/cdrive, and sudo chmod g+rw /mnt/cdrive
[07:27] <Kael_> somone can help me a little bout a kernel change problem?
[07:27] <troxor> Oswy: gparted makes parted a little bit friendlier ;)
[07:27] <arkanabar> ! flash-config
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <Oswy> k
[07:27] <Oswy> Let's see.
[07:27] <thepimp> does anyone know what package contain the command play?
[07:27] <MUTU> troxor: mutu@ubuntu:/mnt$ chmod u+rw /mnt/cdrive
[07:27] <MUTU> chmod: changing permissions of `/mnt/cdrive': Read-only file system
[07:27] <nom_> how do i check flash config.
[07:27] <Oswy> "command not found"
[07:27] <Solarius> Kael_: what's your problem?
[07:27] <Kael_> Oswy could you help me?
[07:27] <Kael_> Hi solarius
[07:27] <snowpunk98> I just downloaded a checkgmail SVN I want to use over the stable one I installed from the repository, can someone tell me where to move the file so I can run it at startup?
[07:27] <Oswy> Probably not, but what's your question?
[07:28] <Kael_> just trying to install a kernel k7 or 686 on my laptop, made it with synaptic, but cant bot with these kernel on grub, doesn't give abitlity to do this
[07:28] <jamesb2147> i installed ubuntu 7.04 on my secondary ide drive and already have windows installed on the primary ide device.  i also have two cd drives running on the secondary ide channel and a sata hard drive on the secondary sata port on the mobo.  i booted and installed from the live cd but when i restart it gives me an error 22.  having looked that up, it means something about not being able to identify a hard drive/root.  fyi, hdd's appear a
[07:28] <troxor> MUTU: unmount the disk, then change the directory's permissions, then mount the disk again as your user
[07:28] <Kael_> only can boot with generic
[07:29] <Oswy> Yeah, can't help, sorrry.
[07:29] <Kael_> ok Oswy, thanx ;o)
[07:29] <orbin> arkanabar: you should really ask an nvidia user, but, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-c737a8e39e49d924079ba3097055127ad3bb6cc8 ... see step 6
[07:29] <Viaken> I'm using XFCE/Xubuntu and nm-applet (NetworkManager) starts three times when I log in, leaving me with three icons. I can't find how to take it back down to one. Any suggestions? It's not in the autostart programs list, and I can't find a dot file (~/.foo) that calls it more than once...
[07:29] <ndee_> hello there, whenever when I want to restart/logout/shutdown my computer, I have to press the accordings button twice. Is that a common problem?
[07:29] <thug> what would be the best convert tool for mp3 files ? i want to convert the track to a smaller size ... it can be wma . m4a anything ... so i can put 500 songs on my mobile instead of 200 :)
[07:29] <arkanabar> orbin: thanks, I'll read that.
[07:29] <orbin> arkanabar: -settings only seems to be required for breezy or hoary
[07:29] <troxor> Oswy: it should be available in synaptic
[07:30] <Solarius> Kael_: are you sure you are not using it alreay? run uname -a and paste it here
[07:30] <Oswy> k
[07:30] <Oswy> How do I deal with having to unmount the drive?
[07:30] <Kael_> Solarius ca i talk to you in private?
[07:30] <Solarius> Kael_: it is better in room, so everyone can participate;)
[07:30] <Kael_> Linux kael 2.6.20-15-generic
[07:30] <Shin_Gouki> hello i have an cbr archive which programm i should use to topen it??
[07:31] <Kael_> i should have the choice in grub pressing esc
[07:31] <Solarius> Kael_: what kernel you tried to update?
[07:31] <Kael_> but nope
[07:31] <Solarius> I mean to what kernel'
[07:31] <mcphail> thug: lame?
[07:31] <Falstius> Shin_Gouki: comic books?
[07:31] <sysrage> anybody know status on prism54? i've seen bug reports, i've seen forum posts, but haven't come across any definitive information regarding how nasty it is with fiesty
[07:31] <Kael_> same version but k7 and 686 architecture
[07:31] <Kael_> tu get beter performances
[07:31] <Kael_> better
[07:31] <thug> mcphail i prefer some gui ones :)
[07:31] <Xerus> I don't have a desktop a work with the shell. I wan to change the keyboard configuration from latin american to american
[07:31] <troxor> Oswy: if it's a critical system drive(say, mounted at /), it's most fun to use the bootable gparted livecd
[07:31] <Xerus> where do I change that
[07:32] <Oswy> Most fun?
[07:32] <Oswy> Uh-oh.
[07:32] <Solarius> Kael_: i think it is possible that you have it already, but not sure
[07:32] <Oswy> It's /dev/hda
[07:32] <mcphail> thug: if you have 500 files to downsample, i'd use the command line!
[07:32] <pdlnhrd> i am getting this error after upgrade to fiesty.  can anyone help ?   dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:32] <pdlnhrd> seems like an error with libc6
[07:32] <Gearman> Anyone help me with external monitor on my laptop
[07:32] <Oswy> Can I do it through the Ubuntu boot disk?
[07:32] <Falstius> Shin_Gouki: I've used comix for reading cbr comic books in linux.  Just sudo apt-get install comix
[07:32] <soundray> pdlnhrd: try a 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[07:32] <thug> mcphail and what would be tha command line please ?
[07:33] <Kael_> no Solarius, in fact when you install a new kernel version, you should get option to boot onit in grub
[07:33] <pdlnhrd> soundray: it didn't output anything
[07:33] <soundray> pdlnhrd: how about 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[07:34] <strabes> !ask | Gearman
[07:34] <ubotu> Gearman: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:34] <troxor> Oswy: most fun in this case means easiest ;)
[07:34] <Solarius> Kael_: can you please paste whole input of uname?
[07:34] <Oswy> Oh, cool.
[07:34] <Oswy> So how do I go about that?
[07:34] <pdlnhrd> soundray: nothingt to intalll or upgrade
[07:34] <mcphail> thug: /usr/bin/lame  --mp3input -b whatever_bitrate "$FILENAME" "$FILENAME"down.mp3 (for example)
[07:34] <Kael_> Linux kael 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:35] <jamesb2147> i really need help with this grub problem.  installed feisty with livecd and worked perfectly, etc until reboot when grub error 22 comes up meaning something about a missing hdd?  i hv 2 IDE's, 2 IDE cd drives, and 1 sata plugged into secondary sata port.  for whatever reason when unplugged it all boots fine.  ubuntu is installed on secondary ide and windows on primary ide.  i don't know what i can do.  HELP?!?!
[07:35] <Solarius> Ok, so you want it to k7, right?
[07:35] <Gearman> strabes i am new
[07:35] <soundray> pdlnhrd: okay, try a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install libc6'
[07:35] <Kael_> yes Solarius
[07:36] <troxor> Oswy: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php <-- it's a small iso, burn it to a cd, and boot it . it will ask a few questions, and throw you into an environment with gparted. then, no system drives are mounted, and you're free to resize or move, or whatever to them.. but the obligatory warning, be sure to back up any critical data
[07:36] <Oswy> k
[07:36] <Oswy> Cool.
[07:37] <Solarius> Kael_: i don't have a idea, maybe you should ask foorums
[07:37] <jamesb2147> seriously, can anybody help me with the grub problem?
[07:37] <rbs-tito> Does the Ubuntu Feisty installer automatically configure dual boots? Or do you need to manually edit the grub file?
[07:37] <Cafe_Pyala> try wubi
[07:37] <Viaken> How do I change what Gnome services to start in XFCE?
[07:37] <jamesb2147> it automatically detects already installed windows
[07:38] <Kael_> ok Solarius, strange thing : when iupgraded kernl first , i get an entry in grub, now, nothing comes up wheni instal other kernel versions
[07:38] <Oswy> Thanks, troxor.
[07:38] <troxor> Oswy: np
[07:38] <arkanabar> How do I determine which kernel I'm using?
[07:38] <rbs-tito> arkanabar: uname -r
[07:38] <Kensome> 2 laptops 400 ea. 1 xbox 360 for 300, 1 ps3 with 3 games, extra controller 500, 1 nintendo ds with game 100$ livraiison/shiiping incl msn: mberrelley@telusmail.net
[07:38] <Kohvihoor> How do i share internet connection? I have two network cards installed.
[07:38] <orbin> Kael_: iirc, the k7 and 686 etc. images are now obsolete and fall under the implementation of the generic kernel
[07:39] <Solarius> Kael_: yep, but have to go now, bye!
[07:39] <troxor> jamesb2147: have you tried the interactive grub prompt at bootup? you hit c or something at the menu
[07:39] <chief> !tv & more @ #inotec
[07:39] <Kael_> yes orbin, read it somewhere, but also read that sometimes you get better performances with k7 kernel, heard smthing bout this?
[07:40] <Kael_> what kind of IRC client are u using?
[07:40] <rausb0> irssi
[07:40] <tsole1> hello
[07:40] <jamesb2147> troxor: i haven't tried anything since it just comes up with the error 22 message.  i don't believe it will work but i can try
[07:40] <BossMania`Oqp> hello ... who know glftpd please ?
[07:40] <pdlnhrd> soundray:  i fixed it but by altering the install script with something like this : sed "s/export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL/#xport LD_ASSUME_KERNEL/"     thanks for your help
[07:40] <tsole1> is there an ubuntu channel for greece?
[07:40] <rausb0> !gr
[07:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[07:40] <troxor> jamesb2147: is grub installed to your primary disk's mbr?
[07:41] <jamesb2147> troxor: yes indeedy
[07:41] <BossMania> hello ... who know glftpd please ?
[07:41] <jamesb2147> like i said, it works fine when the sata is unplugged, but i need that...
[07:41] <orbin> Kael_: yes, my guess is those optimisations are built into the generic
[07:41] <tsole1> !Greece
[07:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[07:41] <pureDesi> how would I make an if statement to see if $0's length is greater than 3 in bash?
[07:42] <tsole1> thanks
[07:42] <Kael_> ok thx Orbin, what is your irc client?
[07:42] <rchf> Anyone know how to get Ubuntu to recognize the Broadcom ethernet that comes with the 64-bit DELLs?
[07:43] <troxor> pureDesi: ${#variable} should return the length, iirc
[07:43] <orbin> Kael_: i'm using xchat
[07:43] <pureDesi> troxor: thanks
[07:43] <troxor> jamesb2147: perhaps the sata is coming up as the first disk, throwing off the drive numbers by 1?
[07:43] <Kael_> ok i'll give it a try, thx to you all Solarius and Orbin
[07:44] <ElllisD> is there an easy way to set up a calendar server like in Ubuntu connecting via no-ip?
[07:44] <BossMania> who know glftpd ? drftpd ?
[07:44] <ElllisD> like googles
[07:44] <BossMania> nobody ?
[07:44] <jamesb2147> troxor: would i need to fix that in the linux boot folder or something?  i've been trying to find a way to boot a live cd that lets me edit files on my ext3 system...
[07:44] <Smilez> anyone know of a disk scanning utility that will mark bad sectors for me, so ubuntu won't use those blocks/sectors?
[07:45] <BillTheFish> Alright, i'm having trouble gettin the latest release of ubuntu to see my mouse.. It worked just fine in the previous version.. any suggestions?
[07:45] <jamesb2147> troxor: and besides that, it would be weird since it doesn't do that in the bios as evidenced by windows booting before i installed grub
[07:46] <orbin> BillTheFish: usb?
[07:46] <ivo> hello, I'm new here. can anybody help me with the network-manager-gnome installation?
[07:46] <soundray> pdlnhrd: well done. I've no idea now where you made that change...
[07:46] <jorge_> hola
[07:46] <orbin> ivo: what release are you running?
[07:46] <BillTheFish> ps2 mouse and KB.. the keyboard works just no mouse
[07:46] <ivo> latest xubuntu version
[07:46] <thug> mcphail is there not a way to convert more tracks at once ?
[07:47] <Smilez> BAD Blocks/Sectors. Any utilies that come with Ubuntu capable of marking the sectors/blocks as bad, so I don't hear that wretched grinding noise? :D
[07:47] <cholera> is there anyone knowledgeable of how to work with video files in Ubuntu, I need help, nothing I have tried has produced any acceptable results
[07:47] <BillTheFish> what do you mean work with video files? like editing them?
[07:47] <pdlnhrd> soundray:  the install scrip (coldfusion) expected certain things... so i commented them out.  now it works.... it wanted a specific version i guess
[07:47] <troxor> jamesb2147: it's tough to say what's going on without knowing your partition setup, but you can try grub-install to whatever mbr windows writes to
[07:48] <cholera> BillTheFish: yeah, I have tried kino, mencoder, dvdstyler, devede, ffmpeg....
[07:48] <tim167> cholera : Kino and avidemux have worked fine for me
[07:48] <mcphail> thug: for FILENAM in *.mp3; do [enter]  then that line I gave you [enter]  done [enter]  will convert a whole directory
[07:48] <mcphail> *FILENAME
[07:48] <bauke> Hi! With my Benq (19") and Philips (17") I would like to use different resolutions. With Twinview and nvidia-settings there is nog configuration for the 1600x1200 for my Benq. What to do??
[07:48] <orbin> Smilez: e2fsck with the -c option?
[07:48] <BillTheFish> Jahshaka
[07:48] <cholera> tim167: I could never get avidemux to open a raw dv file
[07:48] <pureDesi> for some reason this: "if [ ${#1} > 3 ] " is _always_ returning true, anybody see something wrong with it?
[07:48] <odat> what directory do i use to load modules on startup
[07:48] <Smilez> orbin: do i boot to terminal or gui?
[07:48] <jamesb2147> troxor: but it shouldn't be the partition setup should it?  that wouldn't be affected by the hard drive being taken out, just the drive setup...?
[07:49] <tim167> cholera, first encode the dv file to avi using kino
[07:49] <hac> Anyone can query me?it's just a test for a Perl plugin
[07:49] <rausb0> pureDesi: > is the wrong syntax. use -gt instead
[07:49] <mcphail> pureDesi: not sure ">" is "greater than" in shell, is it?
[07:49] <orbin> Smilez: not sure it matters.  i suppose terminal is best
[07:49] <pureDesi> oh, gotcha
[07:49] <rausb0> pureDesi: > is output redirection
[07:50] <Smilez> alright. thanks orbin
[07:50] <jamesb2147> troxor: it has already overwritten the windows mbr and comes up with the error unless i unplug the sata drive (which was luckily not where i installed ubuntu)
[07:50] <pureDesi> ohh, i see
[07:50] <pureDesi> thank you
[07:50] <pureDesi> it works
[07:50] <Smilez> hac: you've been queried, and I've been ignored
[07:50] <orbin> Smilez: please read the manpage to make sure it's what you want.  i just remember seeing it once
 nice it works
[07:50] <hac> thx
[07:50] <Smilez> np
[07:50] <rausb0> pureDesi: read "help test" to learn more
[07:50] <cholera> tim167: the problem is more complicated, I can capture and render video fine for my linux box, when I try to put the videos on my site, my family is unable to play the files, I even gave them downloads to vlc and a couple of codecs. I would like to convert the files without doing that
[07:50] <Smilez> alright guys, ima scan this suckin drive now
[07:50] <Smilez> peace out
[07:51] <rausb0> pureDesi: "[" is the "test" command
[07:51] <BillTheFish> anyone know why my ps2 mouse works in the previous version of unbuntu but not the lastest
[07:51] <cholera> I need a true avi file not something like (FMP4)
[07:51] <soundray> pdlnhrd: I see
[07:51] <troxor> jamesb2147: if you have the sata drive plugged in, grub could be looking for drive n, when in actuality, the sata drive has made n = n+1..
[07:51] <troxor> odat: /etc/modprobe.d/*
[07:52] <thug> mcphail /usr/bin/lame  --mp3input -b 96 /home/thug/05-snoop_dogg-thats_that_\(feat_r_kelly\).mp3 /home/thug/Desktop/test.mp3    replace what ? lets say i want to convert the whole ~/thug directory
[07:52] <tim167> cholera, for codecs, i found mjpeg for video and pcm for audio to be the most effective, i don't know FMP4 tho...
[07:53] <cholera> tim167: Mencoder MPEG-4 (FMP4)
[07:53] <ivo> what can I do if the network-manager-gnome icon doesn't show up in "applications"?
[07:53] <HymnToLife> tim167, effective maybe, but awfully big files
[07:53] <stp2007> Hi, I'm trying to use Synaptic to download/upgrade a few packages. I've selected a couple but the Apply button is greyed out and so I don't know how to effect my changes
[07:53] <mcphail> thug: join #paste and i'll be there in a minute
[07:53] <jamesb2147> troxor: but then how would i change that?  how can i access the ubuntu installed files for grub w/o changing the bios order (b/c the bios order gets real messed up unless i have it how it already is) and that still doesn't explain why that is different from when i boot the livecd, you know?
[07:54] <salty-horse> what's the best way to share files between two ubuntu machines?
[07:54] <tim167> HymnToLife: yes, maybe, but it works at least :)
[07:54] <HymnToLife> salty-horse, SSH
[07:54] <cholera> tim167: capture dv files with kino, encode a a single avi file, then I can use mencoder for further compression or conversion of audio and video?
[07:54] <HymnToLife> (with SCP or SFTP)
[07:54] <sebastorama> All packages witch have a "license agreement" term is impossible to install here.... They all have an "<ok>" button but it is not "clickable".... anyone has this strange issue before?
[07:55] <dougie> my sound card isn't working...its a Realtek ALC883 Chipset with Intel ICH8
[07:55] <salty-horse> HymnToLife, can you link me to a guide on how to set up the server-side?
[07:55] <HymnToLife> sebastianffx_, use the Enter key of your keyboard...
[07:55] <HymnToLife> salty-horse, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:55] <HymnToLife> that's it
[07:55] <x386> hi *
[07:55] <sebastorama> HymnToLife, nopz... I can't use the enter :P
[07:56] <tim167> cholera: how i do it: import from dv camera with kino, do some basic editing, export from kino as avi (mjpeg/pcm) and then straight into Devede, done. limited but it works for me
[07:56] <sebastorama> HymnToLife, the <ok> is just there on my term .. and I  can't select it...
[07:56] <stp2007> Does anyone have an idea why the apply button is greyed out for Synaptic Package Manger (even though I have selected a few packages)?
[07:56] <vmware> hello
[07:56] <orbin> sebastorama: you possibly have to scroll through the agreement
[07:57] <jamesb2147> hello!
[07:57] <troxor> jamesb2147: in the livecd, you can chroot /mnt/point/ubunturoot, then you can use the system normally (in theory; depends on your partition setup, again)
[07:57] <vmware> anyone ready to talk to me?
[07:57] <sebastorama> orbin, yeap.. I've already tried it ..
[07:57] <vmware> ok
[07:57] <dougie> anyone know how to get the sound card working?
[07:57] <arkanabar> ok, I've installed my Nvidia drivers and now I need to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf which is read-only.... is there a quick command I can use fo rthis?
[07:57] <LInux1234ubuntu> Hi!!!!!!!!!
[07:57] <SenfEuter> Good Evening
[07:57] <vmware> bye
[07:57] <vmware> god bless u all
[07:58] <dougie> arakanabar, you have to sudo it
[07:58] <cholera> tim167: okay, sounds good, I'll give it a shot, thanks
[07:58] <HymnToLife> arkanabar, you don't need to modify it yoursef, the nvidia drivers provide a tool to do it automagically
[07:58] <stp2007> Does anyone have an idea why the apply button is greyed out for Synaptic Package Manger (even though I have selected a few packages)?
[07:58] <LInux1234ubuntu> somebody need help??
[07:58] <jamesb2147> troxor: so it would be like sudo chroot /root/grub if that's what i wanted to change?
[07:58] <arkanabar> HymnToLife, they refuse, as it's been modified.
[07:58] <tim167> cholera: good luck
[07:58] <ivo> Anyone who can explain me why the icon of network-manager-gnome won't show up?
[07:59] <x386> anybody speeks c++ :)
[07:59] <HymnToLife> arkanabar, then you need to edit the file with sudo
[07:59] <HymnToLife> !offtopic | x386
[07:59] <cholera> tim167: I'm one click away from throwing my box out the window :)
[07:59] <ubotu> x386: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:59] <troxor> jamesb2147: hm, is it possible to use the livecd to boot your ubuntu disk partition directly?
[07:59] <tim167> cholera: hang in there :)
[07:59] <jamesb2147> troxor: if it is, i have no idea how
[07:59] <arkanabar> HymnToLife, I'm so completely unfamiliar with sudo that I don't know how to invoke any text editor using it.
[07:59] <orbin> ivo: you need to run nm-applet ... i'm not sure how that would work in xfce as it lives in the notification area applet in gnome
[08:00] <Kromel> arkanabar,   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    (it will ask you for your password)
[08:00] <BillTheFish> anyone know why my ps2 mouse works in the previous version of unbuntu but not the lastest
[08:01] <HymnToLife> arkanabar, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:01] <HymnToLife> if you want to use nano
[08:01] <ivo> orbin: how can I find the nm-applet? I've already read about it in a forum but simply don't know how to run it
[08:01] <HymnToLife> if you ant to use a graphical editor (e.g. gedit), use gksudo instead of sudo
[08:01] <orbin> ivo: that's the command
[08:02] <BillTheFish> Bleah! should i just go back to 6.10?
[08:02] <ivo> orbin: says: /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found
[08:02] <arkanabar> Kormel, HymnToLife, thanks, that seems to have worked.
[08:02] <troxor> jamesb2147: ok, first of all, how are your partitions set up? do you have a separate /boot, /home, or.. ?
[08:02] <soundray> BillTheFish: update or fresh installation?
[08:02] <jamesb2147> billthefish: it's probably just disabled drivers but i couldn't tell you which ones
[08:02] <orbin> ivo: what command did you just run?
[08:03] <bauke> Hi! With my Benq (19") and Philips (17") I would like to use different resolutions. With Twinview and nvidia-settings there is nog configuration for the 1600x1200 for my Benq. What to do??
[08:03] <ivo> orbin: nm-applet
[08:03] <jamesb2147> troxor: it's all on / (root).  i don't have very much space.
[08:04] <troxor> jamesb2147: ok, what block device does / correspond to, (eg, /dev/hda1)
[08:04] <BillTheFish> both actually.. i upgraded from 6.10 and got no mouse.. then i decided to download a fresh fiesty cd and try that.. still no mouse
[08:04] <orbin> ivo: not sure what's going on there, sorry.  tried asking in #xubuntu?  isn't there a utility native to xfce?
[08:04] <aurora_mansius> how can i share my folders  with other windows computers in ethernet so that they are not asked any passwords or username
[08:04] <Kromel> BillTheFish, what kind of mouse you got btw?
[08:04] <BillTheFish> ps2 mouse
[08:04] <jamesb2147> troxor: either hda2 or hdb, i forget
[08:05] <ivo> orbin: the xubuntus told me to ask for help over here.. ;)
[08:05] <EcoBlue> can anyone help me solve the reason Wine completely locks up my system?
[08:05] <jamesb2147> by your convention hda2 though
[08:05] <tim167> cholera, actually, I don't export mjpeg from kino, but i use XviD MPEG4-AVI Dual Pass (in the 'other' tab ) the mjpeg thing was in avidemux i think...
[08:05] <soundray> BillTheFish: can I have a look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? Paste it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and let me have the URL pls
[08:05] <Kromel> BillTheFish, what chipset your motherboard using?
[08:05] <BillTheFish> sis i belive
[08:05] <Enverex> What's with this "I'd like to invite you to a social forum" spam on the forums?
[08:06] <xand_> Is there a way to see which apps will be updated/uploaded to the repositories and WHEN?
[08:06] <troxor> ivo: try `ls -l /usr/bin/nm-applet`
[08:06] <arkanabar> restarted X, and things are going MUCH faster.  I'm going to try something that used to lock me up incredibly:  the Galaxy screensaver.
[08:06] <isti> Hello cold someone show me what ubuntu studio exacktli is and how it works pls
[08:06] <orbin> ivo: lol, isn't there a utility native to xfce?
[08:06] <isti> Hello cold someone show me what ubuntu studio exacktly is and how it works pls
[08:06] <arkanabar> oh, man, it's FLYING!!  Many many many thanks!
[08:06] <Kromel> BillTheFish, interesting. Seems you are not the only one with the issue. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/108221
[08:06] <troxor> jamesb2147: does booting the ubuntu live cd give you a menu (you might have to press esc)
[08:06] <soundray> xand_: no new apps will be uploaded for released versions.
[08:07] <soundray> !gutsy | xand_
[08:07] <ubotu> xand_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[08:07] <BillTheFish> Should i still paste the code?
[08:07] <isti> Hello cold someone show me what ubuntu studio exactly is and how it works please
[08:07] <EcoBlue> why would Wine completely lock up my system?
[08:07] <soundray> BillTheFish: yeah, why not?
[08:07] <aventin> orbin: sorry to bother again. might i enquire what you would expect to be the transfer rate of a non dma drive? i have nothing to compare my numbers with... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20524/
[08:07] <jamesb2147> troxor: well the standard 30s timeout graphical menu, yes.  i don't have a problem with the cd itself at all...
[08:07] <troxor> EcoBlue: wine can be a bit 'fussy' sometimes ;)
[08:08] <isti> yes thats true
[08:08] <soundray> xand_: read those links to see the plans for the next release. File a wishlist bug if you'd like to see something included that isn't on the plan yet.
[08:08] <EcoBlue> troxor: both Wine and Crossover lock my system up, have to hard reboot if I try to use them
[08:08] <isti> Hello cold someone show me what ubuntu studio exactly is and how it works please
[08:08] <arkanabar> I'll probably upgrade to fiesty about the time gutsy comes out.
[08:08] <vox754> !repeat | isti
[08:08] <troxor> jamesb2147: can you edit one of the entries(e) , or get into a command line(c) from that ubuntu cd ? (alternatively, is there an option to boot an installed system from the cd in the menu)
[08:08] <ubotu> isti: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:08] <vox754> !repeat > isti
[08:09] <vox754> I'm going bananas
[08:09] <orbin> aventin: no idea of what numbers should look like, sorry.
[08:09] <aurora_mansius> how can i know the details of the computers that access my system through samba n/w
[08:09] <ivo> troxor: after ls -l /usr/bin/nm-applet he says '-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 171612 2007-04-13 13:44 /usr/bin/nm-applet'
[08:09] <Hagg4> hello! I'm having problems with my Internet connection, any1 know how to find what the error is? Is there a good program to help me?
[08:09] <troxor> ivo: ok, could you try `ps aux | grep nm-applet` and see if it gives any output? (that is, nm-applet may already be running)
[08:10] <jamesb2147> troxor: there is an option to boot from the first/primary hdd and i BELIEVE there is also a command prompt option of some sort anyway...
[08:10] <isti> thx
[08:10] <Gearman> exterior monitor intel laptop does not work
[08:10] <isti> !repeat
[08:10] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:10] <troxor> jamesb2147: did you try the former, or is that where you get the error 22 ?
[08:10] <marvinm> hi
[08:10] <cholera> tim167: i had tired the Xvid MPEG4-AVI Dual Pass, since I was puttng the file on my site, family members needed to install a codec to play the file. I supplied them with the download but apparently that was too confusing for my parents. :)
[08:10] <isti> !repeat
[08:10] <MaxRideAE> Is there anyone that can help with an install issue? At first I was getting the 'ACPI' failure, with a blinking cursor freeze right after splash....now, with noacpi it's frozen at "squashfs: version..." and won't load anything else...
[08:11] <jamesb2147> troxor: that is where i get the error 22
[08:11] <cholera> tim167: they are all windows users
[08:11] <marvinm> who has windows?
[08:11] <troxor> jamesb2147: alright, in the menu, select that item, then hit 'e'
[08:11] <isti> me
[08:11] <isti> but I hate it
[08:11] <marvinm> can you speak german?
[08:11] <vox754> !offtopic | isti marvim
[08:11] <ubotu> isti marvim: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:11] <ivo> troxor: yes there is a quite long output
[08:12] <ffm> Are there any text editors that support find and replace?
[08:12] <tim167> cholera: i put videos online using a java plugin, most people have it, and it allows you to use ogg, ...a free and open format :)
[08:12] <jamesb2147> troxor: ok, keep going, im gonna have to keep running up and down stairs for this
[08:12] <isti> okok
[08:12] <mjr> tim167, yeah, it's handy to have a java player for ogg theora
[08:12] <xand_> soundtray: humm...so feisty won't get any updates? they will only be available in gutsy?
[08:12] <misnix> aurora_mansius, install swat
[08:12] <troxor> ivo: can you paste it to pastebin, or rafb.net/paste, or the like, and paste the url ?
[08:12] <MaxRideAE> Anyone have any suggestions on that firstboot freeze issue?
[08:12] <ffm> xand_: No, fiesty will get updates.
[08:13] <isti> yes i can speek german
[08:13] <vox754> !de | isti marvim
[08:13] <isti> *speak
[08:13] <ubotu> isti marvim: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:13] <ffm> xand_: Just not major ones. We have a releace cycle, every six months.
[08:13] <cholera> tim167: I still new, I was under the impression that ogg was for audio, I'll take a look at yet another option, thanks
[08:13] <ivo> troxor: well, I just tried the command 'nm-applet' again and the program showed up in the taskbar
[08:13] <Garnol> i need help with XGL -- who knows the problem of a Exec line (missing) ????????
[08:13] <soundray> xand_: feisty will get security updates.
[08:13] <tim167> cholera, you can export as ogg theora from avidemux
[08:13] <ffm> xand_: It will continue to recive security patches and bugfixes for 3 years of ro.
[08:13] <ffm> xand_: It will continue to recive security patches and bugfixes for 3 years of so.
[08:14] <soundray> xand_: there will also be backports for things that are considered important
[08:14] <ffm> *or so
[08:14] <soundray> !backports | xand_
[08:14] <ubotu> xand_: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[08:14] <sisseck> do anyone know if it is possible to share a WLAN connection through the same WLAN card?
[08:14] <ffm> soundray: Whats a backbort
[08:14] <ffm> *port
[08:14] <vox754> !enter | ffm we don't care a lot about spelling
[08:14] <Kromel> BillTheFish, still there?
[08:14] <troxor> jamesb2147: there should be a line with "root (hd0)" or some such.. select that line, and edit it so that it's "root (hd"  then hit tab after the d (you may need to press tab twice) it /should/ give you a list of partitions grub detected
[08:14] <cholera> tim167: this will play in wmp? or should I convice my parents to install vlc
[08:14] <ivo> troxor: that's the answer of the 'ps' command : 'ivo       5785  0.0  0.0   2884   764 pts/0    S+   20:11   0:00 grep nm-applet'
[08:14] <ubotu> ffm we don't care a lot about spelling: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:14] <xand_> ffm: ok..but for example, thunderbird 2.0 will not go to feistys repos?
[08:15] <tim167> cholera: they should definitely install vlc if you ask me...
[08:15] <Kromel> BillTheFish, did you find a solution to your mouse yet?
[08:15] <BillTheFish> nope
[08:15] <HymnToLife> xand_, no, unless maybe in backports
[08:15] <ffm> xand_: Yes, it will. Applications are still beign built for fiesty untill its support cycle ends, in about 3 years.
[08:15] <tim167> cholera, but to play a video on a website with this java ogg plugin you dont need vlc
[08:16] <cholera> tim167: okay, I put a link on my site for them to install vlc, and Ubuntu also :) we'll see what happens
[08:16] <ffm> sisseck: No, not iirc. You need two WLAN cards.
[08:16] <isti> Hello cold someone show me what ubuntu studio exactly is and how it works please
[08:16] <soundray> !backports > ffm, please read the private message from ubotu
[08:16] <sisseck> ok thanks, do you happen to know if it would work over a bluetooth connection?
[08:16] <ffm> isti: This is not for ubuntu studio. Please go to #ubuntu-studio.
[08:16] <tim167> cholera, good, it doesnt hurt to try ;)
[08:16] <Kromel> BillTheFish, I think I may have found something for you.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387542&highlight=ps2+mouse
[08:16] <troxor> ivo: if it shows up in the notification area, then you're done, and it should be working
[08:16] <xand_> haha, HumnoLife, ffm, yes or no? :)
[08:17] <Kromel> BillTheFish, look at the fourth post in the link I gave you.
[08:17] <Fain> Anyone know how to get a program to autostart minimized in xfce?
[08:17] <BillTheFish> alright i'll check it out
[08:17] <marvinm> hi garry
[08:17] <mjr> sisseck, hmh, it would require some tweaking but I think it would be possible to share over the single card, but that'd certainly require tweaking not for the feint. Bluetooth sharing is possible also, but no easy tools for that either.
[08:17] <gerrit_> moin
[08:17] <marvinm> hello
[08:17] <mjr> sisseck, keywords "bnep" and "pan" for bluetooth networking
[08:17] <sisseck> ok thanks, guess i
[08:17] <marvinm> alle englisch
[08:17] <misnix> :q
[08:17] <cholera> tim167: I think I would like to go with something universal, java sounds like a productive option, if you still around I'll post back with the results, thanks again
[08:18] <gerrit_> also wie leuft das mit beryl
[08:18] <jamesb2147> troxor: much thanks!  i've gotten several ideas on how to fix this now and so i'm going to start trying some of them now.  i'll be back if i need further help though.  so again, THANK YOU!
[08:18] <Fain> I'm guessing there is maybe an argument I can add to the end of the command, but I'm having no luck figuring out what it would be
[08:18] <marvinm> mom
[08:18] <sisseck> 'll just tell my friend no to the connection and get him to uninstall that XP virus he is running
[08:18] <troxor> jamesb2147: no problem, good luck
[08:18] <Fain> Google has thus far failed me, or I've failed it, or both
[08:18] <oscar> Hi...
[08:18] <ffm> soundray: Any fiesty backports yet? I cannot find the repos for it.
[08:18] <troxor> Fain: if all else fails, you can use something like devilspie
[08:18] <gerrit_> was meinst du damit
[08:19] <vox754> !de | gerrit_ marvinm
[08:19] <ubotu> gerrit_ marvinm: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:19] <Fain> devilspie eh? I'll look into it, thanks
[08:19] <soundray> ffm: I don't think there will be before gutsy is officially opened
[08:19] <BillTheFish> eh, thats for a serial mouse.. i'm having trouble with a ps2 mouse
[08:19] <soundray> BillTheFish: have I missed the URL?
[08:19] <ffm> soundray: Then I wont get any non-security updates until gutsy is releaced?
[08:20] <Kromel> BillTheFish, oh, my bad.
[08:20] <ivo> troxor: thank you very much... but have you any hint to add a shortcut or so to "Applications > Network" ?
[08:20] <soundray> ffm: no. Backports will start once gutsy *development* has properly started.
[08:20] <ffm> soundray: Also, why do I have edgy-security in my repos still? Is this bad?
[08:21] <Gearman> what is the differences 6.06 to 7.04
[08:21] <BillTheFish> no, havent posted it..
[08:21] <ffm> !changes
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <MaxRideAE> =( Anyone? Ubuntu freezes during boot on 'squashfs'?
[08:21] <soundray> ffm: it's not needed, but it doesn't matter either. I would remove it just for sanity.
[08:21] <troxor> ivo: if you go to System->Preferences->Sessions, then "Startup Programs" there should be an option "Network Manager"
[08:21] <ffm> !changelog | Gearman
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <Flannel> MaxRideAE: Have you checked the CD for defects?
[08:22] <troxor> ivo: if there isn't you can add one , where command is "nm-applet"
[08:22] <MaxRideAE> Erm, not yet...(Sorry, first try linux install)...I'll try that and get back to you. =)
[08:22] <troxor> ivo: or `nm-applet --sm-disable`, rather
[08:22] <_MMA_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2642068
[08:22] <ffm> soundray: Good idea to get fiesty-proposed?
[08:22] <LjL> ffm, please don't try and guess bot factoids... try /msg ubotu bot  for help with the bot
[08:22] <soundray> ffm: only if you know how to handle problems.
[08:22] <Gearman> !changelog
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <Lectus> Hello! I clicked on "visual effects" or something, and it enabled GLX. But now gnome isn't starting anymore. How to solve it?
[08:23] <LjL> Gearman, i don't have the URL handy, but google "feisty specs"
[08:24] <ffm> soundray: kk, then I wont. I stupidly upgraded to fiesty before it was out, (I had just installed edgy a week before) and that was a nightmare.
[08:24] <Gearman> ok Ljl thanks
[08:24] <Ezra1964> hows everyone today?
[08:24] <LjL> all 1300 of us?
[08:24] <Ezra1964> lol
[08:24] <oscar> Somebody can help me? What can I do? My Nautilus works very slowly and after a while my nautilus "eat" all the CPU...
[08:24] <ffm> Ezra1964: I cannot speak for everyone, but I am fine.,
[08:25] <Ezra1964> good!
[08:25] <bruenig> !english | oscar
[08:25] <ubotu> oscar: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:25] <pdlnhrd> what is a command to list all devices (usb) connect to the computer?
[08:25] <gianvito> hi
[08:25] <bruenig> lsusb maybe
[08:25] <ffm> gianvito: Hello.
[08:25] <MaxRideAE> Ez: I'd be better if I worked. =*
[08:25] <soundray> ffm: proposed updates are not as hairy as a beta install, I think
[08:25] <soundray> pdlnhrd: lsusb
[08:25] <MaxRideAE> ...Not that any of my 4 laptops work well anyway...
[08:26] <gianvito> for italian help?
[08:26] <LjL> soundray: i've seen someone's system break quite horrendously due to enabling them though...
[08:26] <LjL> !it > gianvito    (gianvito, see the private message from Ubotu)
[08:26] <Daemonik> xfdesktop behaves very oddly. When dragging an icon from xfdesktop to a thunar window it copies the file or folder instead of moving it. The shift key has to be held for normal drag and drop, is there a workaround for that?
[08:26] <Ezra1964> thats too bd, i'm lovin life in ubuntu land
[08:26] <ffm> soundray: I am a very noobish user. (I know my way around M$Win, but am a linux idiot)
[08:26] <pdlnhrd> soundray:  you are a wealth of info today.  but now how do i know what /dev  it is so i can format it?
[08:26] <gianvito> ts
[08:26] <Flannel> MaxRideAE: Check the CD, that freeze thing you mentioned sounds of a bad disc; which is why we're checking it.
[08:26] <bruenig> xfdesktop is very weak, I just disable it
[08:26] <oscar> bruening: in the spanish channel nobody can help me....
[08:26] <soundray> LjL: that's good to know
[08:27] <rawkfist> hello all, i'm looking for a document that tells me "how linux works"
[08:27] <rawkfist> as in in depth
[08:27] <ffm> soundray: I still have no idea what the nameing scheme is on the fs, and have no idea how to compile an app.
[08:27] <ffm> gianvito: Hello.
[08:27] <soundray> ffm: it's good to avoid the risky things at your stage. But you'll get there quicker than you think
[08:27] <Lectus> I clicked on desktop effects, it configured NVIDIA and enabled GLX. But now gnome isn't starting anymore. Can anyone help me?
[08:27] <Garnol> me=GNOME with XGL
[08:27] <Garnol> Comment=
[08:27] <Garnol> Exec=/usr/local/bin/startxgl.sh
[08:27] <Garnol> Icon=
[08:27] <Garnol> Type=Application
[08:27] <soundray> ffm: checkout wikipedia on FHS (filesystem hierarchy standard)
[08:27] <Toma-> rawkfist: http://tldp.org/
[08:27] <Garnol> oh sorry ..
[08:27] <mcphail> rawkfist: why not try linux from scratch?
[08:27] <ffm> !paste
[08:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:27] <Punkunity> i was wondering if someone could please help me with a dvd playing problem??
[08:28] <ffm> Garnol: read ubotu's message abovr.
[08:28] <soundray> pdlnhrd: lsusb lists devices independently of whether they are mountable, or even supported by a driver.
[08:28] <rawkfist> danke toma
[08:28] <Punkunity> or if anyone could point me in the right direction
[08:28] <Garnol> ffm: was a mistake .. the wrong window .. i feel really sorry ..
[08:28] <Toma-> rawkfist: np
[08:28] <Garnol> i have a problem with XGL
[08:28] <soundray> pdlnhrd: try 'sudo fdisk -l' to see if you recognize any partitions on your device.
[08:28] <rawkfist> newb to linux like to at least know wtf is going on with my comp
[08:29] <Toma-> rawkfist: sometimes, its better not to klnow
[08:29] <Fain> troxor, you've used/are using devilspie?
[08:29] <Toma-> *know
[08:29] <Toma-> :D
[08:29] <rawkfist> lol
[08:29] <soundray> pdlnhrd: also, USB mass storage devices should be mounted by default (unless you've turned that off in System-Preferences-Removable drives)
[08:29] <Garnol> i installed it on my system, but when i want to start a xgl session, the error talks about a missing exec line in the xgl file . :(
[08:29] <rawkfist> im a glutton for punishment
[08:29] <troxor> Fain: yep, in gnome
[08:29] <cholera> I'm back!
[08:29] <ffm> rawkfist: read some of the things here http://linuxcommand.org/
[08:29] <Kr0ntab> Toma-, ignorance can be bliss, for sure.
[08:29] <Kr0ntab> :-)
[08:29] <soothsay> I got an update for hal from feisty backports and it screwed up suspend-to-ram. I removed backports from sources.list. How do I downgrade.
[08:29] <cholera> ffm: I'm back!
[08:29] <soundray> pdlnhrd: if it is mounted, run 'mount' to find out the device name.
[08:29] <oscar> Somebody can help me?.. Nautilus work very slowly and use all the CPU... What can I do?
[08:29] <soothsay> ?
[08:29] <pdlnhrd> soundray:  that helped... but two of the drives are identical
[08:29] <[variable] > is there a channel for beryl only discussion for feisty fawn?
[08:29] <MaxRideAE> Ok, I was getting a hangup (not a full freeze, input works but wont continue the boot..) on sqaushfs...just checked CD and it says no errors...anyone have a plan B?
[08:30] <bruenig> [variable] , #ubuntu-effects
[08:30] <pdlnhrd> soundray: df -ha helped.. i got the right one now
[08:30] <Fain> Not sure it will work for my application then. I use xfce because I'm running this build on a limited system.
[08:30] <ffm> cholera: Really , you would be suprised how few people care. It just creates more clutter in an already full room.
[08:30] <root> ola
[08:30] <mrrcp> ola
[08:30] <root> alguem sabe
[08:30] <root> me dizer
[08:30] <cholera> ffm: what about when people disconnect?
[08:30] <ffm> !es
[08:30] <MaxRideAE> The laptop I'm using has an NTFS format disk installed...but from the documentation...that shouldn't be a problem until instlal-time...right?
[08:30] <AbdulioUnited> Ciao to ALL
[08:30] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:31] <Flannel> !away > cholera
[08:31] <pdlnhrd> anyone have a suggestion for a filestyem that goes from osx  -> linux -> windows  (fat 32 won't work disk too big)
[08:31] <root> porque estou dando um appget instal no xmms e nao esta insalando
[08:31] <AbdulioUnited> is there somebody who had a problem with the desktop effects?
[08:31] <Lectus> me
[08:31] <Flannel> !br | root
[08:31] <ubotu> root: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:31] <ffm> ffm: Users can choose to ignore quit messages (in most good clients anyway). Not so with your messages, unless they ignore you altogether.
[08:31] <Lectus> I tried desktop effects and now gnome isn't starting
[08:31] <redbullfx> usser: hows it going....whats new....
[08:32] <ffm> cholera: Users can choose to ignore quit messages (in most good clients anyway). Not so with your messages, unless they ignore you altogether.
[08:32] <redbullfx> usser: i got a question... or more of a problem....
[08:32] <soundray> pdlnhrd: ext3 is supported by ext2fsd in Windows. There is also an experimental Mac OS X driver which works okay for me.
[08:32] <Punkunity> I was trying to play a new dvd last night on my newer DVDRW drive, which i know is burning and playing CD's just fine, but i cant get any program like VLC, or MPlayer, to play the dvd disk
[08:32] <AbdulioUnited> did you get the following error: desktop effects could not be enabled
[08:33] <Lectus> no. it just restarted and then I get a black screen
[08:33] <pdlnhrd> soundray:  i tried it last night.. but could never get it to mount.  it would only spit out errors on 10.4
[08:33] <cholera> ffm: ok, np
[08:33] <redbullfx> i got a problem...   after login in, i want to get ride of the splash that comes next. the ubuntu splash there. how do i do taht????
[08:33] <AbdulioUnited> did you have a problem with you you display adapter?
[08:33] <MaxRideAE> REPOST: Ok, I was getting a hangup (not a full freeze, input works but wont continue the boot..) on sqaushfs (71.714621)...just checked CD and it says no errors...anyone have a plan B?
[08:33] <Lilacor> osx
[08:33] <Lilacor> doh
[08:33] <ffm> cholera: Sorry to make such a big deal out of it. I just wanted to infom you that people somtimes kick users who do that.
[08:34] <soundray> pdlnhrd: what's the name of the driver you tried?
[08:34] <cholera> ffm: thank you, I don't need that :)
[08:34] <pdlnhrd> soundray: i could only find one for 10.4... .let me see if i can find it
[08:35] <pdlnhrd> soundray:extfsmanager
[08:35] <Lilacor> Anybody here own a Mac running OS X and can tell me what filesystem it uses?
[08:35] <Lilacor> I'm trying to repair a mac volume....
[08:36] <soundray> pdlnhrd: the one I'm using is called Ext2FS, I've got version 1.4d4
[08:36] <pdlnhrd> soundray:  i am fsck the disk on my linux box now and going to try again....  i carry A LOT of data around and use all platforms... i wish i could find something that just worked
[08:37] <soundray> pdlnhrd: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/
[08:37] <navets> can anyone help me with my sound. It is super low compared to windows and I have no master volume control
[08:37] <pdlnhrd> soundray: that is what i am using.  i was giving the name from the preference pane
[08:37] <dennda> navets type "alsamixer" and enter
[08:37] <Belgarath_> Anyone have a solution to dark themes and Evolution !?!
[08:38] <soundray> pdlnhrd: iso9660
[08:38] <pdlnhrd> soundray:  sorry don't follow...
[08:38] <project9> how do i find all mp3 files on system and save them as a tar file
[08:39] <acu01_> I want to buy a PORTABLE video player (to play wmv windows media and rm -realmedia) - also mp3 player and preferable voice recorder - obviously I want to be able to transfer files from Ubuntu or Debian - any sugestions ?
[08:39] <bruenig> project9, you want to put them all in one directory and then tar that?
[08:39] <navets> dennda: i did but i am unable to  change my master volume, it is at 00 and pcm is at max
[08:39] <pdlnhrd> project9:   like this ?
[08:39] <pdlnhrd> project9: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2005-September/053434.html
[08:39] <dennda> navets, hm sorry, no idea
[08:40] <vaio> is the ubuntustudio site down?
[08:40] <soundray> pdlnhrd: I haven't tried formatting a disk with an iso filesystem, but that's one fs type that is supported well on all platforms
[08:40] <disinterested> anyone know why gaim would go 100% on cpu?
[08:40] <navets> dennda: k thx
[08:40] <cholera> redbullfx: you still need help?
[08:40] <dennda> vaio, obviously, yes
[08:40] <redbullfx> yeah i do
[08:40] <redbullfx> cholera: yes please
[08:41] <soundray> project9: 'find / -iname \*.mp3 -print0 | xargs -0 tar cf /tmp/mp3collection.tar '
[08:41] <pdlnhrd> soundray:  ah... i like ext2/3 .... it works well...and i can use windows and linux i just wish i could plug it directly into my osx box
[08:41] <project9> i want to search all mp3 file from system and tar it
[08:41] <cholera> You may want to try adding: splash=verbose to your grub kernel line. kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.20-gentoo-r2 root.... splash=verbose .....
[08:42] <project9> soundray:what print0 and xargs0 does ?
[08:42] <acu01_> Does anyone know a CHAT room where I can get some sugestions about a PORTABLE VIDEO player (under $100) which can connect and works  with Ubutntu?
[08:42] <soundray> pdlnhrd: I don't know, maybe ask the ext2fsx developers how you can help ;)
[08:42] <bruenig> project9, I would do this, find / -iname *.mp3 -exec cp '{}' /path/to/directory && tar czvpf directory.tar.gz /path/to/directory
[08:43] <pdlnhrd> soundray:  i want to do my masters work on filesystems... dont' have the time now
[08:43] <soundray> project9: you need -print0 and -0 to xargs to deal with filenames that contain spaces.
[08:43] <Fain> There has to be a simplier way to get an application in xfce to start minimized.
[08:43] <pdlnhrd> soundray:  i feel like picking up reiser where it left off
[08:43] <soundray> project9: man xargs to see what it does.
[08:43] <bruenig> xargs is not needed
[08:43] <redbullfx> cholera: i will give that a try
[08:43] <chombee> Can anyone help me figure out how to save to disk the embedded videos from http://www.ctv.ca/ ? They are windows media format I think. They play in ubuntu (with extra codecs), but I watn to save one
[08:43] <afief> pdlnhrd, then please get reiser4 into the kernel
[08:44] <project9> soundray: can u * pls * explaint it
[08:44] <Kr0ntab> ahh the many ways to skin a cat... oh and archive mp3's...
[08:44] <cholera> redbullfx: take a look here, not sure if it is what you need but worth a shot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=388291
[08:44] <soundray> bruenig: should project9 just try without?
[08:44] <redbullfx> chombee: did you try using the plugin for firefox???
[08:44] <soundray> project9: xargs takes input from stdin and turns it into commandline arguments
[08:44] <pdlnhrd> project9:  i sent you link that explained it.  try helping yourself out
[08:44] <chombee> redbullfx - what's it called?
[08:45] <project9> ok
[08:45] <project9> thanks
[08:45] <redbullfx> chombee: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2390
[08:45] <project9> all
[08:45] <chombee> redbullfx - thanks, will try it
[08:45] <navets> does anyone know if there is a way i can reinstall my sound driver
[08:46] <MaxRideAE> Alright...same problem on two laptops, different brands, hangs on squashfs during boot...
[08:46] <redbullfx> NP
[08:46] <Shin_Gouki> sometimes thunar hangs up but none the less(system stays stable), rest of time the system is really cool :)
[08:46] <Shin_Gouki> just loove xubuntu 7.04 :O
[08:47] <redbullfx> whats the difference between   xubuntu, kubuntu?????
[08:47] <pdlnhrd> soundray:  after fsck the drive on linux osx now mounts it... but no files show up.... arg.......... ( there are 10k files on it though, hopefully it is thinking)
[08:47] <fuzzy_logic> hi people.. anyone uses virtualbox here?
[08:47] <tarzeau> fuzzy_logic: yes
[08:47] <cybe> redbullfx - the desktop
[08:47] <cybe> redbullfx - Kubuntu uses KDE, Ubuntu uses Gnome and Xubuntu uses something else
[08:47] <redbullfx> oh ok ok...cool.....thank
[08:47] <soundray> pdlnhrd: fingers crossed that they didn't end up in /lost+found
[08:47] <Flannel> redbullfx, cybe, xubuntu uses XFCE
[08:48] <fuzzy_logic> tarzeau: i use win2k on it, but i can't get it to EXACTLY fit my screen, so with a 1280x800 resolution and without the gnome toolbars..
[08:48] <cybe> Flannel okay :) but i'll stick to Gnome :D
[08:48] <tawooh> i don't know if this is the right place to ask questions??
[08:48] <dennda> tawooh, you already did ask a question ;)
  kubuntu = KDE, ubuntu = Gnome .... xubuntu = Xfce
[08:49] <dennda> tawooh, just ask, don't ask to ask
[08:49] <fuzzy_logic> tarzeau: do you know how i can do that?
[08:49] <Led-Hed> is it possible to run Xorg 6.8.x on Ubuntu 7.04? or 6.10 for that matter?
[08:49] <Fain> I do fuzzy_logic
[08:49] <tulio> hi, is there somewhere a minimal ubuntu iso available?
[08:49] <pdlnhrd> soundray:  terminal shows them fine... just finder chokes...... oh well...
[08:49] <Flannel> !minimal | tulio
[08:49] <ubotu> tulio: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[08:49] <fuzzy_logic> Fain: how?
[08:49] <Fain> Just use 915resolution
[08:50] <soundray> pdlnhrd: oh
[08:50] <fuzzy_logic> Fain: i'll google that up.. thanks
[08:50] <soundray> pdlnhrd: I don't think I've tried to see them in Finder
[08:50] <Fain> are you on the linux system now?
[08:50] <soundray> pdlnhrd: that's how much of an OS X disciple I am ;)
[08:50] <tulio> ::rolleyes::
[08:50] <fuzzy_logic> Fain: yes
[08:51] <chombee> redbullfx - videodownloader plugin is cool, but it says 'not a valid url'. The url begins with mms://
[08:51] <EADG> Whats the footprint of a fresh Ubuntu install?
[08:51] <Fain> Logged in? If so, just goto System -> Synaptic Package Manager
[08:51] <hreiser> does anyone in here have experience compiling windows apps with mingw-gcc
[08:51] <tawooh> i need to know how to make it so i can install programs on my system.  right now it says something about user is not authorized to mount packets or something to that effect.
[08:51] <pdlnhrd> soundray:  i hate finder.. but it popped open when i plugged in the drive... but it works... so i am pretty happy...
[08:51] <tinin_> please, how could i use kdm instead of gdm? it changed when i added ubuntustudio-desktop
[08:51] <Fain> type a search for 915resolution
[08:51] <Bilford> How can I access my HD files from the Live CD
[08:51] <Fain> mark it, install it, close the Manager, reboot
[08:51] <fuzzy_logic> Fain: i beleive 915resolution is only for intel video cards.. but i have a nvidia card
[08:51] <tulio> where to get the ubuntu minimal iso?
[08:51] <hotti> bilford: by mounting the hd
[08:51] <Led-Hed> Bilford, mount the drives
[08:51] <Bilford> thanks
[08:51] <Lilacor>  Is it a very bad sign when I can't see a valid partition table on a HFS+ volume from linux?
[08:51] <bruenig> !minimal | tulio
[08:51] <ubotu> tulio: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[08:51] <Fain> Ouch. That one is abit harder to solve.
[08:52] <soundray> Bilford: 'sudo fdisk -l' to find out the partition names that are available for mounting.
[08:52] <fuzzy_logic> Fain: :)
[08:52] <tulio> thanks
[08:52] <Lilacor> I'm going to take a big guess and say "YES!"
[08:52] <madman91> so when is gutsy gibbon coming out?
[08:52] <madman91> :)
[08:52] <Fain> involves alot of non-free nvidia stuff, but there is a real big guide on it in the forums
[08:52] <usser> madman91: about 6 months from now
[08:52] <madman91> usser: too long.. :(
[08:52] <Fain> You'll run into trouble, but the method on the forums seems to work for most
[08:53] <atomiku> I want to sniff the packets of firefox so I can find out what happens when I do something (learning purposes). What application does this best?
[08:53] <fuzzy_logic> Fain: i have all the drivers.. i just can't get win2k working on my virtualbox virtual pc :)
[08:53] <atomiku> Just trying to improve my HTTP protocol skills, I wanna know what happens when you upload a file
[08:53] <madman91> anyways... is there a way to get kiba dock?
[08:53] <BigMac> Hey does anyone here have experience with getting broadcom based wifi chip sets working in feisty (or an wifi chip set)?
[08:53] <Flannel> atomiku: Wireshark (formerly Ethereal) does it pretty well
[08:53] <atomiku> Ahh
[08:53] <atomiku> ethereal
[08:54] <soundray> atomiku: it would be much easier to just look that up, since http is a free protocol...
[08:54] <ethereality> ?
[08:54] <atomiku> Didnt know it was for linux too... Thanks Flannel
[08:54] <Fain> Can't say I can help you much with that fuzzy_logic
[08:54] <hreiser> $ i586-mingw32msvc-gcc -lws2_32 coco.c
[08:54] <hreiser> coco.c: In function `main':
[08:54] <hreiser> coco.c:61: warning: return type of 'main' is not `int'
[08:54] <hreiser> /tmp/ccxABKPU.o:coco.c:(.text+0x2f): undefined reference to `_send@16'
[08:54] <hreiser> /tmp/ccxABKPU.o:coco.c:(.text+0x78): undefined reference to `_WSAStartup@8'
[08:54] <atomiku> soundray: Yeah, but... uhh.. ya :)
[08:54] <eve_> I had wireless working last night, but now Network Manager does not list "Wireless Networks" after using Manual Configuration, and I can't get it to work again
[08:54] <hreiser> oops
[08:54] <Bilford> soundray: ok thx
[08:54] <chombee> Can anyone help me to save an embedded video from ctv.ca? The url of the video begins with mms:// and ends with .wmv. Plays fine, but I want to save it
[08:54] <Flannel> atomiku: it was created for linux ;)
[08:54] <fuzzy_logic> Fain: doesn't matter, thanks anyway for trying :)
[08:54] <AbdulioUnited> is there someone who is dealing with the DESKTOP EFFECTS??
[08:54] <AbdulioUnited> problem do enable the Desktop effects...someone had the same problem??
[08:54] <AbdulioUnited> hhdhhdh
[08:54] <tawooh> i can't run foxfire, says its loading then just stops.
[08:54] <madman91> chombee: mplayer -dumpstream "url" -dumpfile "file"
[08:55] <madman91> chombee: or something similar
[08:55] <atomiku> lol foxfire
[08:55] <ethereality> I'm copying my /home to an ext. hard drive, to back up my settings. I received the message, "Error "Operation not permitted" while copying "/home/dani...en-GB.sog". Would you like to continue?" ... Do you know what causes that error message?
[08:55] <Fain> You happen to know a way to get a program to start minimized in xfce?
[08:55] <msuiter> hola
[08:55] <ethereality> hola
[08:55] <isandirlappy> abduliounited i think desktop effects say that they may or may not work
[08:55] <isandirlappy> and that they are experimental
[08:55] <Fain> There has to be a simple argument to get that task done.
[08:55] <knax> Hey hey.. anyone know why i get a "Network manager could not find some of the required resources, it cannot start" when i've just installed network manager?
[08:56] <soundray> Fain: not really
[08:56] <VSpike> AbdulioUnited: try #ubuntu-effects
[08:56] <chombee> madman91 -- ok will try thanks
[08:56] <soundray> Fain: you can use devilspie to achieve that
[08:56] <pdlnhrd> soundray: cheers, have a good day.  plenty of help today.  thanks
[08:56] <JDStone> I'm running a MythTV backend on Ubuntu Edgy Eft.  Is there any point in upgrading to 7.04?
[08:56] <Fain> Figures. I though maybe there might be a simple argument to add to the end of the command to get that done
[08:57] <soundray> pdlnhrd: welcome
[08:57] <madman91> chombee: there is a great guide on it .. i think its on gentoo forums
[08:57] <knax> Anyone?
[08:57] <Fain> Will devilspie work with xfce? I don't wish to use the Gnome desktop
[08:57] <diminthedam> in 7.04 running Berryl, top window bar when maximised is blank. How can i get it to show properly
[08:57] <eve_> I had wireless working last night, but now Network Manager does not list "Wireless Networks" after using Manual Configuration, and I can't get it to work again. any ideas?
[08:57] <Flannel> diminthedam: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support, thanks
[08:57] <madman91> diminthedam: try #ubuntu-effects .. great channel dealing with beryl
[08:57] <chombee> madman91 -- i'll try to find it. Clue? Keyword?
[08:57] <soundray> Fain: yes
[08:58] <madman91> chombee: mplayer rip stream ..
[08:58] <madman91> chombee: ill find it
[08:58] <ste-foy> Hello here
[08:58] <Fain> I'll see how it works for me then. Thanks soundray.
[08:58] <Fain> If it dosn't do what I desire, I'll just have to deal with it for now.
[08:58] <madman91> chombee: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Rip_Streams_With_MPlayer ... and read some of that
[08:58] <soundray> Fain: but I agree there should just be a toolkit option to do that
[08:59] <soundray> Is there a manpage that just lists X toolkit options?
[08:59] <madman91> chombee: but ignore the installation and stuff
[08:59] <madman91> chombee: thats gentoo.. not ubuntu
[08:59] <Fain> There might be, I'll have to look around.
[08:59] <chombee> madman91 - thanks
[08:59] <madman91> $ mplayer -dumpstream "<url>" -dumpfile <file>
[08:59] <eve_> Network Settings is empty. any ideas?
[08:59] <madman91> chombee: good luck
[09:00] <Fain> I mean, I would think it would just be a matter of adding a simple argument to the end of the command to make a program start in a minimized state.
[09:00] <chombee> madman91 - it appears to be working, we'll see, i've done this with real audio successfully before
[09:00] <Fain> But, apparently not the case. Oh well, perhaps it will be addressed at a later date.
[09:00] <AbdulioUnited> isandirlappy: thanks!! I saw it. but have another laptop and the desktop effects works fine.
[09:00] <cables> Is there any way to use XDMCP over the Internet?
[09:00] <soundray> Fain: actually, minimizing is a function that is performed by the window manager. Clients need not (and probably should not) have to know about it.
[09:01] <troxor> cables: that's not secure at all
[09:01] <isandirlappy> abduliounited well unless your two laptops have the same hardware :p
[09:01] <Fain> Hrmm, true. So it would be on the window manager to handle that kind of request.
[09:01] <AbdulioUnited> VSpike: ok I try ti
[09:01] <Fain> Looks like I have someone to add to the xfce wishlist.
[09:02] <Shafto> Just done a new feisty install on my laptop, my wireless chipset is appearently suported ut of the box jsut need help on activating it?
[09:02] <AbdulioUnited> isandirlappy: no there are different on is dell and the other is presario
[09:02] <Shafto> Do I edit /etc/network/interface?
[09:02] <kadakas> how can i mount a IDE hdd connected through a USB hdd box as a writeable hdd ?
[09:02] <bruenig> !wifi | Shafto
[09:02] <ubotu> Shafto: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:02] <kadakas> ubuntu mounted it automatically as readonly atm
[09:03] <dave> question :  i got 3 HDs and a cdrom, my main hd with ubuntu/grub everything is on hdc , i want to replace hda and hdb with one larger drive, but when i try to just switch em it won't boot to my original drive no matter what configuration, how should i go about this in fiesty ?
[09:03] <bruenig> kadakas, what is the filesystem
[09:03] <kadakas> FAT32
[09:03] <cables> troxor, I'm not using it with any important stuff. I only have 1 linux computer, and I wanted to test it with a friend temporarily.
[09:03] <kadakas> ..i think
[09:03] <kadakas> maybe its NTFS
[09:03] <bruenig> kadakas, have you tried moving stuff to it using sudo?
[09:03] <kadakas> how can i check ?
[09:03] <bruenig> kadakas, well ntfs is another story
[09:03] <kadakas> no
[09:03] <kadakas> ill try
[09:03] <Shafto> bruenig, It doesnt show up wireless network in the networkingbox like on of them guides clearly shows?
[09:03] <yendereb> list
[09:04] <yendereb> help
[09:04] <bruenig> Shafto, I only know !wifi, nothing else
[09:04] <Faar> oi, alguem pode me explicar como deixo minha placa de video (nvidia gforce 3 ti 200) funcionando direito?
[09:04] <bruenig> !es
[09:04] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:04] <madman91> kadakas: ntfs is no problem.. if it is ntfs.. install ntfs-config and run it as sudo.. wam bam
[09:04] <madman91> !ntfs > madman91
[09:04] <cables> !pt | Faar
[09:04] <ubotu> Faar: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:04] <bruenig> dang
[09:04] <kadakas> "/media/disk-...ve.com] ..avi" cannot be deleted because it is on a read-only disk.
[09:04] <bruenig> they are so similar
[09:05] <kadakas> i sudoed nautilus
[09:05] <Shafto> Anyone know if to activate a wireless chipset (supported out of the box appearently) requires me to edit /etc/network/interface?
[09:05] <bruenig> kadakas, if it is on ntfs then you need to do what madman said
[09:05] <cables> Shafto, it shouldn't...
[09:05] <bruenig> kadakas, and then unmount it and mount it again
[09:05] <AbdulioUnited> VSpike: I tried the command you give to me..nothing happened
[09:05] <mcphail> kadakas: don't sudo nautilus
[09:05] <kadakas> why ?
[09:05] <mcphail> kadakas: sudo'ing graphical apps can cause problems
[09:05] <mcphail> kadakas: use gksudo
[09:05] <knax> wtf... still "the Networkmanager applet vould not find some required resources. It cannot continue"
[09:06] <knax> Is this a known bug?
[09:06] <Shafto> cables, Well according to the wiki it works out the box it is an Intel 2915ABG, yet it doesnt show up in networking
[09:06] <cables> Shafto, that's strange.
[09:06] <Shafto> cables, Its detected under hardware too
[09:06] <Shafto> ;/
[09:07] <kadakas> can i reformat that drive ?
[09:07] <Slyyy> Hi !
[09:07] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> how do I find out which user mounted a certain device?
[09:07] <madman91> does anyone use grumpygroundhog?
[09:07] <Slyyy> excuse me, but I seach the french server
[09:08] <Shafto> cables, Think i should still take a look at /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:08] <cables> Shafto, sure. I don't know what to put in there, though.
[09:09] <luexa> good evening.. might anyone help me with a Wireless LAN problem? my card shows me my network but I can't get an IP
[09:09] <CheshireViking> !fr | Slyyy
[09:09] <ubotu> Slyyy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:09] <Shafto> cables, Im just thinking
[09:09] <skullman> Can someone help me connecting a LiveCD to a local network????
[09:09] <luexa> skullman... wired?
[09:09] <skullman> nope!!!
[09:09] <skullman> I mean
[09:09] <skullman> with cables :-)
[09:10] <non|inear> reinstalling feisty and am hanging after installing britty-x11.  have tried 3 clean installs and hang at same place every time.  this is also erasing or messing up my MBR... is this a grub install problam?  or any other ideas?  thanks
[09:10] <knax> Cant _anyone_ help me with the problems i have with network manager?
[09:10] <luexa> oh ok.. well gateway settings are correct skullman ... you do have an IP? can ping the router?
[09:10] <Lambach> can anyone help me w/ a grub error 15 , ive looked a bunch on the net ... I didn't get the same results
[09:10] <EADG> Whats the var dir for?
[09:11] <Shafto> cables, Could it be anything to do with having a 108mbps wireless router? Saying that the chip only supports 54mbps?
[09:11] <EADG> ignore that ^^
[09:11] <Slyyy> realy thanks !!
[09:11] <Slyyy> :)
[09:11] <cables> Shafto, you said it doesn't detect the card, right? It should detect it no matter what type of router you're using.
[09:11] <dave> how should i go about upgrading hard drives in ubuntu?
[09:12] <luexa> dave .. add a new harddrive or?
[09:12] <Shafto> cables, It shows up in hardware and everything, but not inside the networking in the mnu
[09:12] <Shafto> menu*
[09:12] <skullman> luexa: Thnx for asking. I have a 192.168.0.1 router and I have tried to put 192.168.1.111 on the LiveCD, it doesn't find the router...
[09:12] <cables> Shafto, does Network Manager work?
[09:12] <dave> well i got a 40gb, and two 10gb ,i want to replace the two 10gb with another 40gb thus having two 40's
[09:12] <luexa> skullman do you have static IPs or optain it dinamically?
[09:12] <VSpike> does anyone know where's a good place to get beagle support?  Is the dashboard hackers list good for user questions?
[09:12] <Shafto> cables, As in system-->preferences-->network?
[09:12] <dave> problem is it wont boot however i set it up
[09:13] <skullman> luexa: static IPs
[09:13] <VSpike> I want to figure out how to get the damn thing to index maildir++
[09:13] <Kohvihoor> Does Feisty have some easy way to share internet connection?
[09:13] <cables> Shafto, no. Are you using Feisty?
[09:13] <Shafto> cables, or admin whichever netork is uner
[09:13] <luexa> mmh ok skullman ...
[09:13] <psusi> Dave: connect the new drive, boot from the live cd, format the new drive, copy everything from the old drive to the new one, and reinstall grub... then unplug the old disk
[09:13] <Shafto> cables, Yeah, on windows atm though
[09:13] <navets> anyone know how to reinstall a sound driver?
[09:13] <Balneario_Cambor> hi
[09:13] <Ashex> I'm setting up a thinclient server using freenx
[09:13] <Balneario_Cambor> brazillian?
[09:13] <luexa> Kohvihoor read about iptables that's ICS under linux
[09:13] <Ashex> however, when I try to connect, I get a connection error
[09:13] <beta> Hi, are there any programs that can make an inventory from a running linux system?
[09:13] <Balneario_Cambor> ubuntu sucks a lot
[09:13] <Balneario_Cambor> go WIN VISTA
[09:13] <Ashex> I think it may because there is no desktop environment installed
[09:13] <Balneario_Cambor> GO MICROSOFT
[09:13] <skullman> luexa: if i try to ping the  router from LiveCD it doesn't respond...
[09:13] <Balneario_Cambor> I LOVE YOU BILL GATES
[09:13] <Balneario_Cambor> hauhhauhuhuhua
[09:14] <AbdulioUnited> VSpike: are you there??
[09:14] <cables> Shafto, Network Manager is the thing in the Notification Area that manages the network. However, if it doesn't show up in System>Administration>Networking, it probably won't work with Network Manager
[09:14] <beta> GO DEEP
[09:14] <Ashex> Balneario_Cambor, please stop trolling
[09:14] <dave> well theres nothing to copy, im keeping the original 40, but I'll need the live cd?
[09:14] <luexa> Balneario_Cambor ... shhhh
[09:14] <tom_g> hi, anyone having trouble in ut2004 with intel 950 graphics, im getting this wierd thing where there are white flashes on th whole screen every so often
[09:14] <Balneario_Cambor> [Ashex] : suck my dick baby
[09:14] <psusi> #ops
[09:14] <skullman> luexa: ifconfig says: inet addr: 192.168.0.111
[09:14] <cables> !ops
[09:14] <psusi> !ops
[09:14] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[09:14] <Kohvihoor> luexa: I bet this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=498868&postcount=1 howto should have done it, but it didn't. :
[09:14] <Shafto> cables, Been in there, nothing there about it
[09:14] <Kohvihoor> I can't even ping desktop pc from laptop.
[09:14] <VSpike> AbdulioUnited: yes. It wasn't a command. It's an channel on this server which deals specifically with beryl/compiz/xgl/aiglx
[09:15] <Myrtti> huh?
[09:15] <cables> SportChick, did he try to join again w/ a different nick? I have join/part messages turned off
[09:15] <Ashex> nalioth, did you report him?
[09:15] <DuckFart> tom_g: might be a problem with your refresh rate in ut not compatible with your monitor. i used to have a similar problem but only fixed it when i got a new monitor :(
[09:15] <AbdulioUnited> LOL
[09:15] <AbdulioUnited> sorry
[09:16] <SportChick> cables: irrelevant, the quiet isn't nick-baed
[09:16] <tom_g> DuckFart: hmmm... on a laptop :D
[09:16] <maria> cya
[09:16] <SportChick> based*
[09:16] <AbdulioUnited> VSpike: thanks LOL
[09:16] <Ashex> oh wait, scratch that. You're staff! :P
[09:16] <chombee> Why would a video play fine in Firefox with the totem plugin, but not play in totem stand alone? (it tried to install codecs, but that didn't help)
[09:16] <DuckFart> tom_g: now that's going to be a problem... :S
[09:16] <tom_g> lol
[09:16] <cables> SportChick, nalioth banned the nick, I thought you banned the hostmask
[09:16] <SportChick> cables: I did
[09:16] <tom_g> ill just force a refresh rate and screw my monitor up :D
[09:16] <DuckFart> can you alter the refresh rate in ut?
[09:16] <AbdulioUnited> VSpike: can I tell you something else? I have only two desktops!!
[09:17] <luexa> so.. can anybody help me with my WLAN problem? can't get my WLAN to work http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20532/
[09:17] <lando768> hello
[09:17] <tom_g> not sure... 2 mins
[09:17] <cables> SportChick, ok, just wondering if he tried to join again w/ a different nick, and that's why you banned the hostmask. nvm, though.
[09:17] <lando768> I downloaded a file with no extension to be installed in feisty its called rominator its a rom manager
[09:17] <lando768> but i dont know how to install it
[09:17] <SportChick> cables: hrm, i saw him on the channel still talking :)
[09:17] <non|inear> reinstalling feisty and am hanging after installing britty-x11.  have tried 3 clean installs and hang at same place every time.  this is also erasing or messing up my MBR... is this a grub install problam?  or any other ideas?  thanks
[09:17] <cables> SportChick, ok
[09:18] <Ashex> anyone setup a freenx server before?
[09:18] <Lilacor> luexa: it looks like all you need is for the network management applet to be enabled and you should be good to go unless you're using a pure CLI system
[09:18] <n8k99> how do i add a printer which is plugged directly into a router
[09:18] <SportChick> oops - actually nalioth beat me to it :)
[09:18] <Lilacor> Does anyone know how to perform a fsck on a HFS+ volume?!
[09:18] <luexa> Lilacor .. where do I get the network management applet... I'm just testing under the live system
[09:19] <tarzeau> Lilacor: i wouldn't do that from linux
[09:19] <Lilacor> luexa: oh...nevermind then.. you'd have to install it
[09:19] <tarzeau> Lilacor: it'll screw it up
[09:19] <Lilacor> tarzeau: I haven't a choice
[09:19] <hylje> what app can decode .asx video streams?
[09:19] <lando768> any1 use rominator here?
[09:19] <Plouj> hi
[09:19] <Plouj> I don't get it
[09:19] <psusi> Lilacor: have a mac do it
[09:19] <tarzeau> Lilacor: got a backup at least?
[09:19] <tarzeau> hylje: try mplayer?
[09:19] <luexa> Lilacor well I'm going to do an install if I can get it to work.. I tried 2 months on fedora no luck.. now trying ubuntu
[09:19] <Lilacor> tarzeau: no, recovering friend's hfs+ volume. :(
[09:19] <nalioth> Lilacor: install hfstools
[09:20] <Plouj> I'm trying to update to feisty and the updater reaches the cleanup stage when it seems to freeze. I see that there is no or little CPU, network and disk activity after that.
[09:20] <Lilacor> nalioth: yeah..no hfsplus checking tools there though. :(
[09:20] <mattia> ciao a tutti
[09:20] <tarzeau> Lilacor: bad luck, he should've used ufs :)
[09:20] <Neil-> Hey guys, everytime I close openoffice it tells me theres been an error and its going to recover my file, then lists no files...
[09:20] <nalioth> Lilacor: no, you need hfstools then you run fsck-hfs on the volum
[09:20] <Lilacor> tarzeau: do you have a choice under OSX?
[09:20] <tarzeau> Lilacor: i have no idea why apple put that mac os crap into mac os x
[09:20] <LjL> !it | mattia
[09:20] <tarzeau> Lilacor: yes
[09:20] <ubotu> mattia: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:20] <Neil-> any idea how to fix, might be a bug..?
[09:20] <Lilacor> tarzeau: hmmmm...better git on that sheeit
[09:21] <nalioth> Lilacor: i'd recommend you use OSX disc utility to fsck your hfs partitions
[09:21] <roboa> hi... which file should I download in order to get System->Administration -> Disks
[09:21] <psusi> nalioth: there is no hfstools package
[09:21] <Lilacor> nalioth: okay.. I'll plug this drive into his new mac and see if we can do a recovery
[09:22] <Neil-> Everytime I close openoffice it tells me theres been an error and its going to recover my file, then lists no files... any idea whats up?
[09:22] <Lilacor> thanks! I hope OSX can do much better.
[09:22] <Lilacor> ugh.
[09:23] <Lilacor> I'll be dumbfounded if the native OSX can't do a normal fsck on the volume.
[09:23] <lando768> i downloaded a file to install it its a .gz file i uncompressed the file inside it but it doesnt have an extension how do i install this kind of file?
[09:23] <Poromenos1> how do i eject a usb disk from the command line?
[09:23] <cables> Poromenos1, man eject
[09:23] <elliotjhug> Hi all, I'm sure this is a dumb question, but I need to know so I can fix a dumb change I made :P, Basically, I need to start a gnome session, without it running through the startup programs, or preferably only using the default startup programs. If this is not possible I need to know how to edit another users startup programs from the commandline or inside gnome. Any ideas? Thanks
[09:23] <non|inear> reinstalling feisty and am hanging after installing britty-x11.  have tried 3 clean installs and hang at same place every time.  this is also erasing or messing up my MBR... is this a grub install problam?  or any other ideas?  thanks
[09:24] <Poromenos1> cables: i do eject /dev/sda1, but it doesn't get ejected
[09:24] <non|inear> please!!! there is NOTHING on the web about this :P
[09:24] <cables> elliotjhug, I'm not sure how, but here's a tip: you can access a terminal by hitting ctrl-alt-f1, and you can get back to a GUI with ctrl-alt-f7
[09:24] <nalioth> psusi: Lilacor: i apologize.  the package name is hfsplus and hfsutils (you'll need both)
[09:24] <cables> elliotjhug, try logging in with "failsafe gnome" as the session
[09:24] <jplastin> what's the package I need for mP3 support again?
[09:25] <Poromenos1> cables: do i need to use a scsi command?
[09:25] <cables> Poromenos1, I'm not sure...
[09:25] <cables> jplastin, just double-click the mp3 and it'll find the driver you need.
[09:25] <Poromenos1> cables: ah, thanks anyway
[09:25] <elliotjhug> cables: Knew that, Unfortunately its no use without an idea how to fix it. Failsafe gnome has no effect on startup apps unfortunately :(, Gconf doesn't appear to have anything either
[09:25] <cables> jplastin, i mean codec
[09:25] <dg> hi, I've just booted the install cd, but the mouse isn't working, how can I run the live cd installer without a mouse?
[09:25] <elliotjhug> cables: Thanks for the suggestions anyway
[09:25] <cables> elliotjhug, yeah, I'm not sure how, sorry...
[09:26] <cables> elliotjhug, hold on a sec though
[09:26] <Neil-> Hey guys.. Everytime I close openoffice it tells me theres been an error and its going to recover my file, then lists no files... any idea whats up?
[09:26] <jplastin> MP3s work in Totem but not in amarok...
[09:26] <shafto> cables:
[09:26] <cables> jplastin, try setting the backend to gstreamer in amarok, if that's available
[09:26] <psusi> Poromenos1: you need to unmount it
[09:26] <Poromenos1> psusi: hm, it's not mounted to any folder
[09:26] <jplastin> is there not a way to get MP3 support in xine/
[09:26] <Poromenos1> psusi: you mean umount /dev/sda1?
[09:27] <Poromenos1> psusi: it says not mounted
[09:27] <psusi> Poromenos1: you need to unmount whichever disk you are trying to eject
[09:27] <Poromenos1> psusi: it's not mounted
[09:27] <luexa> ehm how do I start the Network Manager Applet.. or where do I access it.. it's installed Lilacor
[09:27] <SnoopyTwo> Hi All.......   I want to upgre from edgy to fiesy but I do not seem to have enough space in /boot
[09:27] <shafto> cables: Im on the feisty install now, and I checked /etc/network/interfaces, and only neth.eth0 is in there, I thought wireless had a different name, should I try ndiswrapper?
[09:27] <non|inear> does anyone know where i can find out the order of installation processes?
[09:27] <Userver> Somebody can help me?? Nautilus work slowly.. So slowly.. and this is the info about the proccess in the system... Guti: A ver si te sirve esta info...  Cpu(s): 95.3%us,  2.0%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,  2.7%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[09:27] <akk> Hi -- I'm trying to install feisty, and it's failing trying to run initramfs
[09:27] <psusi> Poromenos1: check with df
[09:27] <akk> saying "Cannot find /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic" -- but that directory is there
[09:27] <Poromenos1> psusi: nope
[09:27] <psusi> Poromenos1: and hit the eject button on the drive
[09:27] <exs> does anyone know a linux amiga emulator?.. i want to play games like dune, and delux galaga again.
[09:28] <elliotjhug> Userver: What applications are running on your task list? Try sorting by processor usage
[09:28] <akk> anyone know the args it runs for update-initramfs, so I could try it manually?
[09:28] <cables> shafto, i don't think you need that. I don't know how to help you.
[09:28] <Enverex> exes, eUAE
[09:28] <Enverex> exs, eUAE
[09:28] <Poromenos1> psusi: it's a usb disk
[09:28] <Poromenos1> psusi: it has no eject button
[09:28] <cables> SnoopyTwo, you can resize partitions in an Ubuntu LiveCD or a GParted LiveCD
[09:28] <elliotjhug> Nobody got any ideas on how to skip the startup apps on Gnome startup?
[09:28] <exs> thanks
[09:28] <shafto> cables: Know anyone on here thats good with wireless?
[09:28] <psusi> aKK: generally you don't give update-initramfs an argument
[09:28] <akk> Googling is finding tons of update-initramfs related bugs with feisty, but not my exact problem
[09:28] <harry> How do I take packages from synaptic and burn them to a CD so I can give it to my friend who can't get them over the internet (b/c of VERY slow connection)
[09:28] <cables> jplastin, there is, I just don't know how.
[09:28] <cables> jplastin, hold on, let me find a package.
[09:28] <exs> euae isn't in the repository
[09:28] <akk> psusi: Doesn't it need to know which kernel to make the initrd for? (I think that's what it does, right?)
[09:29] <luexa> shafto .. also stuck on wireless :S
[09:29] <Userver> elliotjhug: How can I know that? what can i do to know the aplications running in the task list?
[09:29] <Enverex> exs, You need to grab it from somewhere else
[09:29] <shafto> luexa: Problem is my chipset is appearently supported out of the box :S
[09:29] <luexa> Userver ... enter "top" into the terminal
[09:29] <psusi> akk: it assumes it is going to make it for the currently running kernel
[09:29] <cables> jplastin, try libxine-extracodecs
[09:29] <Userver> luexa: and how can I show you that?  pastebin?
[09:29] <luexa> mine aswell shafto  but.. can't get an IP.. though i exactly see my network.. but nothing
[09:29] <olofsson> hello
[09:30] <olofsson> every one
[09:30] <non|inear> can anyone tell me what package is installed after britty?  or point me towards a thing showing installation order?  thanks
[09:30] <shafto> luexa: Cant even see the interface here, so your one step ahead :)
[09:30] <elliotjhug> Userver: Try: System, Administration, System Monitor
[09:30] <luexa> Userver top is dynamic.. means it updates itselfs.. what's the problem Userver ?
[09:30] <psusi> akk: unless you tell it to do another kernel
[09:30] <akk> psusi: and it knows to run to /target rather than the currently mounted filesystem?
[09:30] <luexa> shafto  what kind of chip is it?  madwifi?
[09:30] <afief> What would be an easy way to repartition a flash drive?
[09:30] <shafto> luexa: Intel
[09:30] <olofsson> has anyone got ubuntu working with the msi 965 mother board and dualcore processor
[09:30] <psusi> akk: no, where's /target come into the picture?
[09:31] <akk> psusi: It needs (I assume) to update the initrd on /target/boot, doesn't it?
[09:31] <psusi> akk: are you installing ubuntu with the alternate setup cd?
[09:31] <luexa> shafto ok.. what says iwconfig? is it regognized?
[09:31] <akk> psusi: Yes, I've never had any luck booting the live CDs on my machines here
[09:31] <psusi> aKK: oh my, and the install fails when updating the initramfs?
[09:31] <Plouj> gah
[09:31] <elliotjhug> olofsson: My dual core works just fine, no idea 'bout your motherboard though
[09:31] <akk> psusi: Right.
[09:31] <exs> is there a GUI to add repositories to the sources.list?
[09:31] <Userver> luexa. sometime ago  Nautilus begin to work very slowly... and also now Nautilus stopped my computer and the hard disk is always running..
[09:32] <psusi> akk: wow... what's it say exactly?
[09:32] <elliotjhug> exs: Yup, under synaptic
[09:32] <shafto> luexa: Nope its not only lo and eth0
[09:32] <jrib> exs: system > adminstration > software sources
[09:32] <exs> elliotjhug:  what's it called?
[09:32] <akk> psusi: Well, in the installer I get a "dialog" that says "Warning: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times"
[09:32] <Plouj> when I do `cat /etc/issue` it says "Ubuntu 7.04 \n \l" but the update manager doesn't show any more updates (especially distro)
[09:32] <elliotjhug> exs: Use jrib's way, probably better.
[09:32] <olofsson> elliotjhug: ok wicked, well ive heard that there has been problems under windows with the motherboard...
[09:32] <akk> psusi: and then if I go to a console and check syslog, it said
[09:32] <olofsson> so well i hope it will work for me under ubuntu
[09:32] <luexa> shafto is there anything weird in the "dmesg" reporting an error caused by the device? maybe that could give a new point to work on
[09:33] <elliotjhug> olofsson: Does the liveCD boot on it?
[09:33] <jrib> Plouj: 7.04 is the latest release.  What kind of updates do you mean?
[09:33] <olofsson> dont know
[09:33] <BigMac> Is there anyone available who has rather advanced knowledge of wifi on ubuntu feisty?
[09:33] <olofsson> :)
[09:33] <VSpike> blah
[09:33] <elliotjhug> olofsson: Well, if it does, chances are good the install will work too
[09:33] <luexa> BigMac no I'm having trouble with it...
[09:33] <Plouj> jrib: 7.04 is feisty>
[09:33] <akk> psusi: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.0-15-generic
[09:33] <Plouj> jrib: I was expecting it to say what it says at the end of this page: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/upgrade-ubuntu-edgy-to-feisty/
[09:33] <olofsson> elliotjhug: well well what motherboard do you use??
[09:33] <non|inear> reinstalling feisty and am hanging after installing britty-x11.  have tried 3 clean installs and hang at same place every time.  this is also erasing or messing up my MBR... is this a grub install problam?  or any other ideas?  thanks
[09:33] <akk> psusi: Cannot find /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic
[09:34] <olofsson> im in the process of upgrading computer
[09:34] <akk> psusi: update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
[09:34] <BigMac> luexa: Yah I have read every guide there is, and have been asking all day, so I would be prepared to wait
[09:34] <olofsson> and ofcourse i want to run linux
[09:34] <akk> psusi: dpkg: error processing udev (--configure)
[09:34] <psusi> aKK: try chroot /target, then update-initramfs
[09:34] <jrib> Plouj: it only says that while it is being developed.  feisty was released in april
[09:34] <olofsson> so need a board that runs well without issues
[09:34] <shafto> luexa: Well http://pastebin.ca/484942
[09:34] <luexa> BigMac what problem are you facing... hardware or software problems? maybe I can give an idea though
[09:34] <elliotjhug> olofsson: No idea, I just use it, but it'll probably work, have you googled it?
[09:35] <D2DChat> Can anyone help me fix my wireless network carD? I'm using the one that should work by default for ubuntu
[09:35] <akk> psusi: "You must specify at least one of -c, -u, or -d" (then a list of options)
[09:35] <D2DChat> it's the linksys
[09:35] <psusi> akk: sorry, -u
[09:35] <D2DChat> but it won't detect available networks and i tried to manually configure a network that i know works
[09:35] <shafto> luexa: You think that could be caused by the wireless?
[09:35] <D2DChat> but it still won't connect
[09:36] <BigMac> luexa: Hardware, and I have tried nearly everything under the sun
[09:36] <Plouj> how do I edit the applet panel to add that power applet which has nice graphs about my charge and an event log related to power management?
[09:36] <D2DChat> can anyone help?
[09:36] <luexa> BigMac what chip?
[09:36] <akk> psusi: Same error message ... aha, there's a /lib/modules on the installer but there's no /lib/modules on /target
[09:36] <BigMac> luexa: Broadcom
[09:36] <beni> nabend
[09:37] <shafto> Anyone help with http://pastebin.ca/484942 them errors for my wireless card?
[09:37] <elliotjhug> Anyone know the gnome channel on freenode? (Sorry for being slightly OT)
[09:37] <shafto> elliotjhug: #gnome
[09:37] <luexa> oh ok BigMac that sounds like big trouble.. ndiswrapper didn't work?
[09:37] <psusi> aKK: that would be a problem.... what about /boot on the target?  does it contain a kernel?  sounds like you don't have a kernel package installed
[09:37] <elliotjhug> shafto: Well... that was a dumb question now wasn't it :P. Thanks
[09:37] <shafto> elliotjhug: Hehe, np :P
[09:37] <obiwan_> can't find video-device for isight on macbook - ekiga doesn't work - can anyone help please ???
[09:37] <psusi> akk: though I'm not sure how you got as far as you did without installing a kernel
[09:37] <BigMac> luexa: nope, nor the ndiswrapper replacement driver
[09:38] <luexa> shafto looking through it.. not yet any clue what exactly causes those IRQ errors..
[09:38] <jrib> elliotjhug: ##gnome, but there's also #gnome on GIMPNet
[09:38] <akk> psusi: /target/boot does have a kernel (and initrd and so forth)
[09:38] <elliotjhug> jrib: #gnome forwards nicely to ##gnome, Thanks :)
[09:39] <psusi> akk: but there is no /target/lib/modules?
[09:39] <akk> psusi: There is, but it's an empty dir, no modules for the new kernel.
[09:39] <shafto> luexa: IRQ errors bad?
[09:39] <luexa> BigMac i had a broadcom card once.. i smashed it through the next window and bought one with an atheros chip... but facing problems with my network IP/LAN problems
[09:39] <shafto> luexa: Gonna see if ndiswrapper supports it
[09:39] <shrill> Hi, how do I prevent the x-server from starting when I boot the pc?
[09:39] <akk> psusi: I'm trying to figure out how to find possible earlier errors in syslog -- there's no vi or less, and more doesn't understand / to search for patterns
[09:40] <[variable] > applications are going black screen
[09:40] <omri> do Dynamode\NetBit WLAN NICs work with linux?
[09:40] <BigMac> luexa: Yah but see people have gotten this working, and their are guides on it which I followed verbatim but to no avail
[09:40] <zBoy> #ubuntu-se
[09:41] <hilts50> Got 7.04 installed on a macbook pro 2.16 core duo and have monitor issues.  No display.  Had some help last night for a fix, but lost it in the chat logs.
[09:41] <BigMac> luexa: If I get hired at the place I applied today, my first paycheck is going to a new wifi card
[09:41] <luexa> BigMac me aswell.. i got it to work once.. lan worked fine.. but after the restart my kernel was.. brocken
[09:41] <luexa> BigMac i did the same ;)
[09:41] <akk> psusi: If I grep, there are tons of messages about /lib/modules but nothing about /target/lib/modules one way or another.
[09:41] <ttjl_> hey
[09:41] <ttjl_> is this the right forum for support?
[09:41] <aro> So Windows killed grub, how do I get it back?
[09:41] <psusi> akk: this is very strange.... yea, they won't say /target as all this will be running chrooted into /target
[09:41] <jrib> ttjl_: yes, welcome
[09:42] <jrib> !grub > aro (see the private message from ubotu)
[09:42] <ttjl_> can I ask a question?
[09:42] <luexa> knows anyone where I find the Network Manager Applet... (live CD , it's installed but where is it?)
[09:42] <psusi> akk: the modules are in the same package as the kernel though, so I don't see how you can have a kernel with no modules
[09:42] <luexa> ttjl_ just state your question :S
[09:42] <jrib> ttjl_: yes, the only question you aren't supposed to ask is that one :)
[09:42] <akk> psusi: Most of the other messages are insmod messages from hw-detect, and don't seem to be errors.
[09:42] <ttjl_> lol ok well I use a vaio and I cant get wireless working. I am absolutely new to linux and ubuntu
[09:43] <ttjl_> how do i resolve this wireless issue-I'm going to choke on this fricking cord
[09:43] <jrib> ttjl_: have you seen the wiki page on wireless?
[09:43] <psusi> akk: what kind of install are you doing?  i386 standard?  no lvm?  no raid?  just one disk with a root and a swap partition?
[09:43] <luexa> ttjl_ WLAN i get nightmares.. but do you know what card you use
[09:44] <Fantaz> hey
[09:44] <ttjl_> umm im not positive is there way i can get my computer to tell me?
[09:44] <akk> psusi: Right. I'm on an amd64 but I'm just doing a 32-bit install. It's a xubuntu disk, btw, which has worked successfully on another machine.
[09:44] <luexa> knows anyone where I find the Network Manager Applet... (live CD , it's installed but where is it?)
[09:44] <shrill> How do I prevent the x-server from starting when I boot the pc?
[09:44] <shafto> Anyone help me setting up my wireless Intel card, With dmesg I get the errors http://pastebin.ca/484942
[09:44] <akk> psusi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/37527 looks like the bug
[09:44] <LIGHT_IN_THE_INV> brother n sist .. i am a very dumb newbie on ubuntu.. i hv sm question..
[09:44] <jrib> shrill: system > administration > services, disable the graphical login
[09:44] <jrib> !wireless > ttjl_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[09:45] <luexa> LIGHT_IN_THE_INV... then state it... grrr :P
 sudo rcconf - than you have to disable gdm.
[09:45] <elliotjhug> Is there perhaps a way to Su under gnome anyone?
[09:45] <jrib> !sudo > elliotjhug (see the private message from ubotu)
[09:45] <elliotjhug> jrib: No good for what I need it for, I know about sudo thanks :)
[09:45] <jrib> elliotjhug: what do you need it for?
[09:46] <luexa> knows anyone where I find the Network Manager Applet... (live CD , it's installed but where is it?) none?
[09:46] <non|inear> laptop reinstall is hanging after britty-x11 (85% through the gnome install part).  MBR is also being corrupted... does anyone know what package is installed after britty, or have any idea what could caouse this hang?  thanks!ng or messing up my MBR... is this a grub install problam?  or any other ideas?  thanks
[09:46] <BVBBQ> hey all. i was wondering, i just installed a few things with wine. now i want to get rid of em. where can i find the directory that it installs to?
[09:46] <akk> psusi: Sounds like the installer CD basically just doesn't work if there are already kernels in /boot
[09:47] <elliotjhug> jrib: I'm trying to fix a problem on another user account which prevents the session froms starting (dodgy startup app) and since nobody knows how to skip the startup apps I was wondering if I could 'su elliot' and then open the gnome session configuration. I am trying something else right now however.
[09:47] <exs> i added the repository for the e-uae, installed it via synaptic, and it's not on my applications menu ( http://www.rcdrummond.net/uae/ )
[09:47] <luexa> Where.. oh where is that Network Manager Applet.. under Applications.. no... under System no? where?
[09:47] <jrib> elliotjhug: startup stuff is in ~/.config/autostart/
[09:47] <LIGHT_IN_THE_INV> browe... how to add extrarespitories.. without connect to the internet????
[09:47] <psusi> akk: oh... I though tyou said you were just using one big root partition, not an existing /boot?
[09:47] <elliotjhug> jrib: Thanks alot :), that saves me some effort
[09:47] <stefg> non|inear: seems like grub's problem... 85% in the install, that sounds plausible
[09:48] <akk> psusi: Yes, that's what I'm doing. The problem is the existing /boot, apparently the installer gets confused by the kernels already there.
[09:48] <LIGHT_IN_THE_INV> browe... how to add extrarespitories.. without connect to the internet????
[09:48] <tim167> what's the command to convert wav to mp3 from the terminal ?
[09:48] <akk> psusi: The person in the bug said the workaround is to not specify /boot, so it makes its own empty one on the root partition
[09:48] <LIGHT_IN_THE_INV> browe... how to add extrarespitories.. without connect to the internet????
[09:48] <psusi> akk: yea, it sounds like it skips installing the kernel package if there's already a kernel there
[09:48] <elliotjhug> jrib: Now with a bit of luck, I can login to my proper account again. Thanks alot :)
[09:48] <jammer_> tim167, lame
[09:48] <Huffalump> How do I access a shared folder?  On one Ubuntu box, I set a folder to be shared (NFS).  On another Ubuntu box, I went to Places > Network... but there was no listing of the shared folder.
[09:48] <LIGHT_IN_THE_INV> ooo ic.. u guys wont help a very dumb new be like me...
[09:48] <LIGHT_IN_THE_INV> browe... how to add extrarespitories.. without connect to the internet????
[09:48] <HymnToLife> LIGHT_IN_THE_INV, you don't, "extra repositories" are on the Net
[09:49] <tim167> jammer: so i'll do man lame i guess ? thanks
[09:49] <akk> psusi: More weirdly, it goes ahead and puts its kernel there, but then it doesn't bother to install /lib/modules on the root partition
[09:49] <luexa> so none knows how to start the Network Manager Applet?
[09:49] <psusi> akk: are you sure?
[09:49] <jrib> LIGHT_IN_THE_INV: you need internet access to access the online repositories
[09:49] <jammer_> tim167, probably need to install it first with "apt-get install lame" :P
[09:49] <ncd_> quickk
[09:49] <konam> someone knows howto merge to partitions after being partitioned
[09:49] <konam> ?
[09:49] <tim167> jammer, it's already there yay :)
[09:49] <ncd_> get LIGHT_IN_THE_INV  in a double dragon hold
[09:49] <akk> psusi: I'm sure it installed a new kernel. I didn't have a .20 before, I was on edgy before and that's .17
[09:50] <psusi> akk: hrm.... strange...
[09:50] <akk> psusi: but there's a .20 there now
[09:50] <non|inear> stefg: thanks for the help!  i figured it might be grub cause the partition table is getting corrupted.  i'm just about to install grub again and see if i can boot into ubuntu... any idea why grub would be messing up?  to try and fix it in a claean install, do I need to get a new grldr, or is greub included in the ubuntu dist?
[09:50] <mjr> konam, you'd need to empty the latter partition to backup, remove it, extend the first partition over it, restore files
[09:50] <mjr> konam, there's afaik no tool to merge them otherwise
[09:50] <Huffalump> How do I access a shared folder from another Ubuntu computer on the LAN?  Both are Ubuntu.  One has a folder shared on NFS for my IP.  But I cannot figure out how to see it.
[09:51] <aro> !nfs > Huffalump
[09:51] <kalpik> Huffalump, try entering smb://<ip> in nautilus's address bar
[09:52] <konam> mjr that's it, thanx men
[09:52] <S_w_a-T> Estatisticas do canal #ubuntu : OPs: 0 Voices: 0 Normais: 1313 Total: 1313
[09:52] <S_w_a-T> .stats
[09:52] <konam> :)
[09:52] <stefg> non|inear: the kernel is far from perfect, might be a compatibility issue with your hardware. And i don't know grldr nor greub...so it's probably not in ubuntu (Waht are these?)
[09:52] <Buschi> huffalump: you want to get access to a NFS-share, don't you?
[09:53] <Huffalump> aro, thanks,  my eyes glazed over at first, but I'll re-read it shortly.  Right now it looks like the two computers need to have the same user names?
[09:53] <Buschi> kalpik smb isn
[09:53] <stefg> non|inear: are you doing a desktop or an alternate install?
[09:53] <Huffalump> kalpik, I'll keep that in mind for smb, thanks!
[09:53] <Buschi> kalpiK: smb isn't nfs
[09:53] <ttjl_> k
[09:53] <aro> Huffalump, I use the same usernames for nfs so maybe, but I can't answer that for certain
[09:53] <ttjl_> ok so im back
[09:54] <Huffalump> Buschi, yes, I think so.  I right click a folder, say share... select NFS, set the IP which has permission.... and then?
[09:54] <kalpik> Buschi, oh.. im sorry then!
[09:54] <ttjl_> hi i looked at the help doc on wireless it didnt seem to work
[09:54] <LIGHT_IN_THE_INV> browe... how to add extrarespitories.. without connect to the internet???? coz when i try to connect with dial up or broadband, its need a extrarespitories, n to get add extrarespitories its need internet connection...
[09:54] <ttjl_> is there someone i could talk this through with possibly?
[09:54] <Buschi> Huffalump: try mount [server's IP] :[share]  [mountpoint] 
[09:55] <Huffalump> So, for any computer on the network, they have to have the same user/pass words?  I cannot just share to "anonymous" or "anyone at IP 0.0.0.0"?
[09:55] <rawkfist> anyone here have a logitech mx500?
[09:55] <ttjl_> gtg
[09:55] <LIGHT_IN_THE_INV> browe... how to add extrarespitories.. without connect to the internet???? coz when i try to connect with dial up or broadband, its need a extrarespitories, n to get add extrarespitories its need internet connection...
[09:55] <Flannel> !mouse | rawkfist
[09:55] <ubotu> rawkfist: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:55] <rawkfist> well theres one thing from what i can tell all my buttons are reading correctly
[09:55] <rawkfist> but i can't get the thumb buttons to work in FF
[09:55] <d0r0n> hi, Im trying to login to an FTP from nautilus. the username has a "@" in it and nautilus converts it to %40, is there a way to make it keep the @ ?
[09:55] <kalpik> Huffalump, refer to the samba section at ubuntuguide.org
[09:56] <LIGHT_IN_THE_INV> browe help me up pls.........!!!
[09:56] <LIGHT_IN_THE_INV> browe... how to add extrarespitories.. without connect to the internet???? coz when i try to connect with dial up or broadband, its need a extrarespitories, n to get add extrarespitories its need internet connection...
[09:56] <rawkfist> (that and i have now crashed X twice trying to do the stuff from the forum :S)
[09:56] <kalpik> LIGHT_IN_THE_INV, you cannot do that..
[09:56] <Buschi>  kalpik: as i already told you: smb != nfs. samba = smb ;)
[09:56] <Huffalump> kalpik, I'll go read that now in hopes Samba is easier.  I had no idea it would be such a complex task.
[09:56] <d0r0n> is there a way to force nautilus to keep @ as a @ and not convert it to %40 ?
[09:56] <LIGHT_IN_THE_INV> so?
[09:56] <malkadi> i have a fujitsu siemens laptop amilo pro v2085 and wi fi doesn't seem to connect although in roaming mood i can c networks
[09:56] <Flannel> LIGHT_IN_THE_INV: what do you need in the repositories to connect to the internet?
[09:57] <malkadi> can any body help with this?
[09:57] <kalpik> Buschi, yeah.. i got that.. just that i think it would be easier for him to set up samba
[09:57] <Buschi> kalpik okay... in that case i'm sorry
[09:57] <kalpik> Buschi, no problem! :)
[09:58] <moonlite> umm
[09:59] <moonlite> the trash-folder. Shouldnt you be able to undelete files from that folder? ie move them back to the folder they were deleted from?
[09:59] <luexa> bash: network-manager-gnome: command not found... but under Add/Remove software it's listed as "installed" what's wrong?
[09:59] <non|inear> laptop reinstall is hanging after britty-x11 (85% through the gnome install part).  MBR is also being corrupted... does anyone know what package is installed after britty, or have any idea what could caouse this hang?  thanks!
[09:59] <psusi> moonlite: yes
[09:59] <Buschi> but btw...
[09:59] <Huffalump> kalpik, both/all computers need to install samba in order for it to work?  Not just the "server"?
[09:59] <moonlite> psusi: hm. ok i might be blind. but how do i do this? :)
[09:59] <Ashex> can I install multiple packages using dpkg -i?
[10:00] <kalpik> Huffalump, only the server needs samba.. samba client is built into nautilus
[10:00] <Ashex> like, can I just do sudo dpkg -i foo.deb foo2.deb?
[10:00] <Huffalump> hmm, okay
[10:00] <luexa> Ashex try it... maybe it works..
[10:00] <BigMac> Hey would somebody be so kind as to link to a decent atheros wlan card?
[10:00] <kalpik> Huffalump, its actually very easy.. once you read up ubuntuguide :)
[10:01] <psusi> moonlite: drag and drop?
[10:01] <moonlite> huh
[10:01] <leguleius> legu
[10:01] <Madeye> hey, I bought new laptop, just erased Vista and installed Feisty but Sound doesn't work at all
[10:01] <Odi> hello... I have a problem with a pcmcia usb card... can somebody help?
[10:01] <psusi> moonlite: drag and drop
[10:01] <luexa> BigMac I use D-Link DWL G520... regognized proberly but can't connect to my Access point
[10:01] <moonlite> psusi: what i did was delete 25 songs from 25 different directories from within rhythmbox
[10:02] <BigMac> luexa: Lol why would I pay for a wireless card that isn't going to let me connect?
[10:02] <moonlite> so when i say "undelete" i don't mean doing it manually
[10:02] <jp834618> who can answer a couple newbie questions?
[10:02] <Flannel> !ask | jp834618
[10:02] <luexa> well on Fedora Core 3 it worked... but that damn Ubuntu and Fedora 6 don't want to connect >:(
[10:02] <ubotu> jp834618: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:03] <psusi> moonlite: no... the trash does not remember where files come from
[10:03] <luexa> so it's a software error.. still searching the network manager but i can't find that bugger
[10:03] <Odi> external usb dvd reader not working when connected to a pcmcia usb card...
[10:03] <luexa> well I give up on that.. gnight
[10:04] <Odi> or maybe any usb device not working with pcmcia usb card :(
[10:04] <Huffalump> kalpik, easy is a relative thing :] 
[10:04] <motin> where can I find the normalized character code for utf-8 characters and how do I input utf-8 characters in for example gnome-terminal using these code?
[10:04] <Huffalump> SMB *appears* infinitely easier than NFS, granted.  Still not working for me, however.
[10:04] <kalpik> Huffalump, hehe yeah.. just try it out.. and come back if you face any issues :)
[10:04] <jp834618> I have no floppy drive, but under computer - file browser, it shows a Floppy 1 drive that is the same size of filesystem
[10:05] <moonlite> psusi: hm ok. Very unfortunate for me :((
[10:05] <lando768> any1 here use rominator?
[10:05] <lando768> i dont understand how to install it
[10:05] <lando768> i downloaded it but it has no extension :(
[10:05] <Pnumekin> salut
[10:06] <eAi> hi all - I've just installed Ubuntu today, and previously I had my other disks (NTFS) mounting fine, somehow things have got confused, and fdisk -l is now only showing one disk - anyone know why this might be?
[10:06] <Huffalump> Using SMB, I share a folder (share name "test").  On the other computer, I access smb://0.0.0.0/test and it says it cannot read because the share was recently deleted.
[10:06] <eAi> the partitions on the other disk still appear to mount ok
[10:06] <navets> !sound
[10:06] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:06] <Buschi> @ all: how can i mount a ntfs-partition writeable?
[10:06] <kalpik> Huffalump, the server's ip is 0.0.0.0?
[10:06] <bXi> is it possible to go 64bit from a 32bit install?
[10:06] <Huffalump> Buschi ntfs-3g is awesome
[10:06] <jp834618> should i format my hhd before installing ubuntu or does ubuntu do it for me?
[10:07] <eAi> it will do it for you
[10:07] <tony_> Hi all
[10:07] <bXi> jp834618: ubuntu can do it for you and also resize it etc
[10:07] <kalpik> Buschi, sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[10:07] <Huffalump> kalpik, for illustrative purposes... yes.  It's a LAN ip (192.x.x.x)
[10:07] <kalpik> jp834618, ubuntu will do it
[10:07] <Buschi> kalpik: i'll try
[10:07] <psusi> Huffalump: 0.0.0.0 is not a valid address
[10:07] <Buschi> thx to Huffalump too!
[10:07] <eAi> anyone know why fdisk might only show one disk?
[10:07] <jp834618> does anyone know why that after i install I have a floppy 1 drive that i cannot access
[10:07] <kalpik> Huffalump, hmm.. just try smb://0.0.0.0
[10:07] <eAi> only showing sdb, not sda
[10:08] <jp834618> when i don't have a floppy drive
[10:08] <yamaha> hallo
[10:08] <eAi> might be enabled in the bios jp?
[10:08] <xipietotec> ....apple computers are strange. I had a guest who was complaining and practically yelling at me over her not being able to get wireless connectivity, and its all our fault of course, so I was trying to tell her to adjust her wireless settings, blah blah blah, so I ended up going to her room to try and help her. She uses a mac...Airport...has zero configuration options. Not only that, it was doing the stupid thing I thought it was d
[10:08] <xipietotec> oing. We have several access points with the same ESSID, it was seeing the closest access point, and telling her she had a great signal and was connected, however it was assigning her to the AP # that got a 4% link quality on *my* 300mW wireless card
[10:08] <kalpik> bXi, no, that's not possible
[10:08] <psusi> jp834618: because you told your bios you have a floppy disk
[10:08] <Huffalump> Buschi - this works awesome for me http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html
[10:08] <jp834618> ok
[10:09] <E2k> anyone here who can help me with an oops in a kernel module
[10:09] <Huffalump> kalpik, if I do it  as smb://x.x.x.x/ the nothing happens at all (no feedback)
[10:09] <xipietotec> then I tried to whip out iwconfig...no iwconfig, no iwlist, ls / wtf? ls /bin/ wtf?!? ... Macs are...limited.
[10:09] <Huffalump> kalpik, just verified the machines can ping one another.
[10:10] <kalpik> Buschi, Huffalump when you install ntfs-config, you can find it under applications->system tools->ntfs config, there you can just put a tick to install ntfs 3g and auto edit fstab too :)
[10:10] <kb_> Hi.  I'd like to upgrade a package (audacity) to a newer version (1.3.x) than there is in the main repository.  Is there any way to do this, short of installing it myself by hand?
[10:10] <Huffalump> oh sure, make it even simpler...
[10:10] <Huffalump> =oD
[10:10] <williammanda> would someone help me to auto load irexec....either using gnome or a script?
[10:10] <Buschi> kalpik: thx to you! i'll try that
[10:10] <jp834618> If I have just installed and I have a 160 gig hdd, an 80 gig hdd and a cd drive, should my computer look like this- CD-ROM drive, 74GB Volume:hdb1, Filesystem 133.6GB ?
[10:10] <kalpik> Huffalump, try issuing sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart on the server
[10:10] <williammanda> i have tried using gnome but it doesn't work
[10:10] <Huffalump> I noticed that after installing Fiesty, that my ntfs-3g drives automount now, which is nice.
[10:10] <Odi> please plase plase... any idea about pcmcia usb card? :(
[10:11] <redbullfx> where can i get some help with Splash screen
[10:11] <rollerskatejamms> Anybody know if there's a way to make Evolution send mail right away when you click the send button on the message composer?
[10:11] <ttjl> hi everybody, can anyone help with wireless?
[10:11] <BigMac> Hey can somebody link me to the page that has the list of all working wifi cards
[10:11] <E2k> if i turn on my udb disk nothing happens and when i turn it off aganin it says  EIP is at make_class_name+0x35/0xa0
[10:11] <BigMac> !wifi
[10:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:11] <BigMac> ok that isn't it
[10:11] <kalpik> Huffalump, and make sure that no firewall is blocking smb on the server
[10:12] <mdke> does anyone know how to call spamassassin from the command line and get it to go through an imap folder and move spam emails? I just imported a very large folder of spam
[10:12] <redbullfx> How do i get rid of the splash screen right after login in????
[10:12] <Huffalump> kalpik, same results (sharename results in "could not be displayed" and without is no feedback)
[10:12] <ttjl> i did try the documentation-network manager sees my wireless card, it picks up my wireless network but for some reason i can connect to it
[10:12] <ttjl> :(
[10:12] <exs> is it just me .. or is firefox REALLY buggy/crashy ?.. 2.0.0.3 I'm using and it's so buggy. it always freezes so i have to close and restore it all the time
[10:12] <kb_> In general, if someone wants a newer version of a package than the newest one in the repositories, what's the recommendation?
[10:12] <williammanda> wireless link........http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370108
[10:12] <kb_> exs: that version seems fine for me
[10:13] <jam> What's up, guys?
[10:13] <Flannel> kb_: What version are you looking for?  Is it it in a newer version of ubuntu?
[10:13] <kb_> exs: maybe it's crashing on specific pages, or with specific plugins?
[10:13] <kalpik> Huffalump, did you add a samba user, following ubuntuguide?
[10:13] <exs> maybe plugins
[10:13] <strabes> Alright, I don't know if this printer is broken or what, but it is going nuts and I can't figure it out. It's attached locally via USB. I have added it using the kdeprint utility. When I print a test page, it takes a page and sends it all the way though the printer without printing anything on it. It then proceeds to do the same thing with the next sheet and the next sheet ad infinitum. The printer cartridges are brand new, I just put them in
[10:13] <strabes> there about 5 minutes ago. This is nuts.
[10:13] <tom_g> hi, how do i find the refresh rate of my current x server?
[10:13] <Enverex> exs, Are you on about Firefox?
[10:13] <eAi> anyone know why all of a sudden /dev/sda cannot be accessed while /dev/sdb can be (sda is internal, sdb external)?
[10:13] <exs> Enverex:  yes, firefox.
[10:13] <kb_> Flannel: I'd like the 1.3 series of audacity, since it has a couple of new features I've come to rely on; I'm running the newest version of ubuntu
[10:13] <Huffalump> kalpik, no I didn't see that.  Here's what I read -> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_share_folders_the_easy_way (which does not mention anyting about Samba users)
[10:13] <eAi> cfdisk says "fatal error"
[10:13] <E2k> join /#ubuntu-bugs
[10:13] <jam> How do I remove a directory with files in it?
[10:13] <VSpike> tom_g: try typing "xrandr" at the terminal
[10:14] <tom_g> vspike thanks
[10:14] <VSpike> jam: rm -r directory
[10:14] <eAi> jam, rm -r
[10:14] <eAi> beat me :(
[10:14] <Enverex> exs, Yeah, it's unstable for me too
[10:14] <VSpike> eAi: that makes me even more bored than you ;)
[10:14] <eAi> nobody know about my problem?
[10:15] <eAi> fix my problem VSpike :)
[10:15] <VSpike> lol
[10:15] <eAi> I'm stumped
[10:15] <ElectricMonk> I like this place, it's like an impromptu classroom with many teachers and students
[10:15] <exs> Enverex:  I've disabled some of my plugins now... maybe that will help
[10:15] <jam> thank you VSpike and eAi
[10:15] <eAi> too few teachers, tbh
[10:15] <eAi> and too much shouting
[10:15] <redbullfx> How do i get rid of the splash screen right after login in???? or where the file is so i can config it????
[10:15] <eAi> need people to put up their hands before talking
[10:15] <VSpike> eAi: is there anything in dmesg?
[10:15] <ElectricMonk> lol
[10:15] <Nanu> I have this file "jre-6u1-linux-i586-rpm.bin" on my Desktop  it is JRE ,, how to install?
[10:15] <ElectricMonk> <<olny been a linux user for a couple of weeks
[10:15] <kalpik> Huffalump, follow http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Samba_Server_for_files.2Ffolders_sharing_service
[10:15] <occluded> why is ubuntu better ... than opensuse
[10:16] <Flannel> kb_: ah, 1.3.x is still all beta.  Those won't be in any repository (gutsy has 1.2.6)  You could backport it from debian unstable.
[10:16] <Flannel> !prevu | kb_
[10:16] <ubotu> kb_: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[10:16] <ElectricMonk> on mandriva....until yesterday when i finally got ubuntu 7.04 working, so now am happy
[10:16] <kb_> excellent, thank you; I'll check that out :)
[10:16] <ttjl> Is there anyone i could talk to about my wireless woes
[10:16] <jp834618> Why can't I rename my hhd's in the file browser?
[10:17] <rauljauqui> olla
[10:17] <jam> what up?
[10:17] <shafto> Need some help with wireless setup anyone got some time to help me?
[10:17] <Enverex> jp834618, Because A) you'd need to be root and second, I don't think it
[10:17] <jrib> jp834618: what do you mean?  rename their mount points?
[10:17] <Enverex> t's all that simple
[10:18] <castorgris> #ubuntu-fr
[10:18] <Defian> how do you delete a directory that isn't empty?
[10:18] <jp834618> one is named 74.5 GB Volume:hdb1 - can i rename it?
[10:18] <jrib> !cli > Defian (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:18] <jam> Defian: sudo rm -r directory
[10:19] <eAi> VSpike, nothing in dmesg
[10:19] <eAi> its odd, I can manually mount partitions
[10:19] <eAi> but I can't list them
[10:19] <Defian> jam, but rmdir refuses to delete a directory that isn't empty
[10:19] <jam> not rmdir
[10:19] <eAi> or see them in the file browser's side pane
[10:19] <jam> rm -r directory
[10:19] <sorsis> i have two screens connected to my comp. txt mode works eprfectly but x doesn't start up properly
[10:19] <Huffalump> Thanks, kalpik.  Honestly, that's looks as cryptic and obscure as NFS, so I'll probably give up for today and stick with sharing files over an IM client.  I will, however, come back another time and revisit this topic of how to share folders in Ubuntu, because it's something I want to do but I do not understand all the vagueries (or their security implications).
[10:19] <GWillakers> Nanu: chmod o+x filename
[10:19] <GWillakers> Nanu: ./filename
[10:20] <jam> Defian: sudo rm -r directory_name
[10:20] <brainiac8008> do you think that linux is very hard to harm (i.e. with viruses, spyware, etc.) and if so, why?
[10:20] <Defian> yeah i got it thanks
[10:20] <jam> np
[10:20] <jam> I got on the IRC for the same reason :)
[10:20] <kalpik> Huffalump, sure! Do try it out though! :)
[10:20] <non|inear> laptop reinstall is hanging after britty-x11 (85% through the gnome install part).  MBR is also being corrupted... does anyone know what package is installed after britty, or have any idea what could caouse this hang?  thanks!
[10:20] <ElectricMonk> my spare external usb hard drive is fat32, everytime i switch it  on, ubuntu mounts it for me, but it wont let me unmount. I have to log out, switch off the hd and log back in
[10:20] <Nanu> GWillakers ok
[10:20] <VSpike> eAi: what do you mean you can't list them?
[10:20] <eAi> fdisk -l /dev/sda1 = Error
[10:21] <eAi> cfdisk /dev/sda1 = Error
[10:21] <VSpike> wierd
[10:21] <sorsis> i'm haaving trouble with dual screen
[10:21] <jam> is there a hardware discussion channel?
[10:21] <Defian> how about changing permissions, as in changing the permissions of one directory and all files within it?
[10:21] <occluded> any thoughts on wep with eap-peap-MSChapV2
[10:22] <Falstius> ElectricMonk: in the command line you can type sudo umount /media/usbdisk (or whatever your disk is called) and it will unmount.  The gui 'eject' used to work in Edgy but I've noticed some problems in Feisty.
[10:22] <jam> anybody know if there is a hardware discussion channel?
[10:22] <Defian> every time i try to install quake3, it only works with sudo.. but then it's all owned by root and I can't practically do anything with it
[10:22] <ElectricMonk> ahh ty
[10:22] <kalpik> Defian, man chmod
[10:22] <jam> If I wanted to build a server, what channel should I join?
[10:23] <Peter> can i install ubuntu *off* a usb pen drive?
[10:23] <ElectricMonk> i found it was fine in 6.10 just seemed strange not to be in 7.04
[10:23] <bulmer> ElectricMonk: it will not allow you to umount if the fs is used
[10:23] <Nontitle> build server software? or server hardware?
[10:23] <Kromel> Jam, there is a #ubuntu-server channel
[10:23] <jam> hardware, Nontitle
[10:23] <ElectricMonk> k, this was all my back up stuff while i wiped and reinstalled a new OS
[10:23] <jam> Okay, Kromel. Thank you.
[10:23] <ElectricMonk> first in ntfs from xp ro mandriva.....then fat32 from mandriva to ubuntu
[10:24] <Enverex> Defian, Why would you need to "do anything with it"?
[10:24] <jam> Kromel. Do you know the irc address?
[10:24] <ElectricMonk> can i change the ownership to get it workin?
[10:24] <Defian> Enverex, whenever I install quake3, it's all owned by root.. which annoys the hell out of me
[10:24] <Nontitle> irc.freenode.net channel #ubuntu-server
[10:24] <Melkor> hi
[10:25] <Enverex> Defian, That's how it's supposed to be in Linux. You can still run it
[10:25] <dogshed> is there a channel just for 64 bit questions?
[10:25] <kalpik> ElectricMonk, its a known bug in feisty.. just do sudo umount /media/usbdisk and then sudo eject /media/usbdisk
[10:25] <Defian> yes, I can. But I can't move files anywhere in it without going in the terminal everytime
[10:25] <ElectricMonk> k, i assume it's being looked at for a fix then
[10:25] <kalpik> ElectricMonk, yes..
[10:25] <ElectricMonk> in which case, use the terminal for now
[10:25] <ElectricMonk> ty
[10:26] <jam> thank you, Kromel.
[10:26] <Peter> can i install ubuntu *off* a usb pen drive, dont have CD and network install isn\t working :/
[10:26] <defcon> hey whats a good app for ub to clean your hdd
[10:27] <defcon> like clean broken apps
[10:27] <Huffalump> thanks to all for your efforts.  I'll try again another day.
[10:28] <dogshed> I can't find wine in the package manager. Is that normal?
[10:28] <Lasol> somebody has a vaio fe?
[10:28] <ElectricMonk> i just tested it, it works a treat, thanks
[10:28] <dogshed> I'm running 64 bit.
[10:28] <malkadi> has anybody got a fujitsu amilo pro v?
[10:28] <MerlinZShell> Hello guys
[10:28] <Defian> game works now, tra la la la la.....
[10:28] <ElectricMonk> back later
[10:29] <jrib> dogshed: yes, that's normal.  winehq.org has repositories you can use if you are on feisty though
[10:29] <didier> hello
[10:31] <shoot^> fellas, in feisty, you roll over an mp3 icon and it normally plays a short preview... mine doesn't! how can i fix it?
[10:31] <Flannel> dogshed: wine is in universe, you'll need to enable it
[10:31] <shafto> Im trying to ad modules at startup heres what I get: shafto@ubuntu:~$ sudo echo "drm" >>/etc/modules
[10:31] <shafto> bash: /etc/modules: Permission denied
[10:31] <shafto> Anyone help?
[10:31] <MerlinZShell> Im trying to mount an NTFS Removable HDD but it says  log file indicates unclen shutdown How can I fix that?
[10:31] <kalpik> shoot^, sudo apt-get install mpg123
[10:32] <strabes> does anyone have any recommendations for ergonomic keyboards that work well with linux? Preferably one where the media buttons work and everything.
[10:32] <grimboy> Hey, anyone know how I might get midi sound working with wine?
[10:32] <Flannel> shafto: echo "drm" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[10:32] <grimboy> Actually I seem to be having trouble with playing midis at all.
[10:32] <jrib> shafto: the redirection is done by the shell which only has your user's permissions
[10:33] <Enverex> grimboy, SB Live/Audigy or something else?
[10:33] <lucky_> I'm looking for a program to make an image of my entire drive. anyone know of one?
[10:33] <grimboy> Enverex, I'll check.
[10:33] <dogshed> jrib: Thanks
[10:33] <MerlinZShell> anybody can help me mount an NTFS HDD ?
[10:33] <shoot^> kalpik: worked a treat, thanks os much matey :)
[10:34] <shoot^> ^so
[10:34] <kalpik> shoot^, my pleasure :)
[10:34] <wretched> hi
[10:34] <jp834618> I disabled floppy in the bios and logged into root and "Floppy 1" is still listed in Computer - File Browser.  I can't delete it.
[10:34] <elcuco> hi all, the fan of my lonovo 300n n100 is not working on 7.04, but it was working on 6.10. anyone else with this model and can confirm?
[10:34] <bluekeys> anyone here tried Ubuntu Studio?
[10:34] <MerlinZShell> ? NTFS Problem can anyone help ?
[10:35] <UbuntuniX> Not likely.
[10:35] <jrib> !please > MerlinZShell (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:35] <akk> jp834618: The kernel seems to see floppies even when they aren't there -- it always sees one on my "legacy-free" laptop
[10:35] <grimboy> Uh, what's the graphical lshw?
[10:35] <akk> jp834618: Maybe removing the floppy module? I haven't tried that, though.
[10:35] <grimboy> Oh, found it
[10:35] <smiith> guys, is flash 9  broken under in firefox for 7.04?
[10:35] <bluekeys> has anyone here tried Ubuntu studio?
[10:35] <jp834618> I have no floppy installed.  What is the floppy module?
[10:36] <jrib> smiith: no
[10:36] <MerlinZShell> jrib: Thanks :)
[10:36] <Flannel> bluekeys: try either #ubuntustudio or #ubuntu-studio
[10:36] <thegattaca> Good day ... Is the MGA (matrox) graphics driver support fixed in the newest release of ubuntu? It was broken in edgy with no resolution ...
[10:36] <bXi> smiith: not here
[10:36] <Nontitle> e
[10:36] <smiith> sorry
[10:36] <Flannel> bluekeys: the latter
[10:38] <dogshed> Flannel: it may not be for 64 bit.
[10:38] <jp834618> Do I have to reinstall ubuntu with floppy in bios off to get the floppy 1 drive to go away?
[10:39] <grimboy> Enverex, Intel 82801F High Definition Audio Controller
[10:39] <bXi> is it normal for my mouse cursor to follow a grid on the screen?
[10:39] <bXi> it always skips a few pixels
[10:39] <GWillakers> I'm using xchat and would like to turn off all the join/quit messages.  Does anyone know how to do this?  I've tried setting irc_conf_mode with no luck...
[10:39] <HoocH_LAP> I really have to get better drivers for my touchpad.. the mouse pointer tends to jump alot
[10:40] <bruenig> GWillakers, right click on the tab
[10:40] <bl4cktone> does anyone have a link to guide me with updating ubuntu using the 7.04 CD?
[10:40] <Enverex> grimboy, You need to set up Timidity++ then
[10:40] <GWillakers> soh!
[10:40] <GWillakers> doh!
[10:40] <stefg> !synaptics | HoocH_LAP
[10:40] <ubotu> HoocH_LAP: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[10:40] <grimboy> Thanks.
[10:40] <maynards-girl> i just ran the envy script on fiesty and where the xserver restarted it's hanging at "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
[10:41] <Enverex> maynards-girl, That's from the initial boot, not XOrg, you're looking at the wrong thing
[10:41] <HoocH_LAP> ty stefg
[10:41] <Cylent8> jp834618: yes. reinstall
[10:42] <harry> how do I download with synaptic and burn the packages to cd for a friend with a slow connection?
[10:42] <Cylent8> bXi:  yes thats normal
[10:42] <Flannel> harry: check out AptOnCD
[10:42] <maynards-girl> enverex, ok. thanks
[10:42] <bXi> Cylent8: and is there a way to fix it?
[10:42] <kalpik> harry, just burn /var/cache/apt/packages
[10:42] <Cylent8> bXi: you on a laptop?
[10:42] <stefg> jp834618: are you really in need of haf a megabyte of RAM?
[10:42] <bXi> Cylent8: no normal desktop
[10:43] <johanbr> crimsun: Hi. I'd be grateful if you could answer a question. I have a phone that when connected via usb only seems to expose a Mass Storage interface (or at least, that's what lsusb tells me). Does that mean there's no hope of using it as a usb sound device?
[10:43] <dogshed> Translation-en_US, This shows as failed when I run a reload in the Synaptic package manager. I had it test mirrors and it selected one in Japan. Is this anything important?
[10:43] <Cylent8> bXi: nvidia or ATI?
[10:43] <bXi> ati
[10:43] <Cylent8> bXi: did you install the drivers from ATI?
[10:43] <bXi> yeah
[10:43] <bXi> but i've seen this on nvidia and intel as well
[10:43] <Cylent8> and what is the cursor doing exactly?
[10:43] <maynards-girl> what's the command to reconfigure the xserver?
[10:43] <tweako> anyone know if its possible to use internet sharing on the samsung blackjack w/ ubuntu??
[10:44] <kalpik> bl4cktone, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#head-0aee739ab0dfe9702a69ee3d316f5926d5d31807
[10:44] <jrib> !xconfig > maynards-girl (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:44] <D2DChat> can anyone help get my wireless card working??
[10:44] <dad>  dose any one know how to sync a palm to evolution without making doubles in the calander?
[10:44] <siloko> Hey dudes
[10:44] <maynards-girl> jrib, thanks you
[10:44] <Cylent8> !xconfig
[10:44] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[10:44] <bXi> it doesnt move smoothly like it should be it skips every 2nd, 3rd, 4th pixel out of 5
[10:45] <Cylent8> try a different mouse
[10:45] <ditoa> hey all
[10:45] <ditoa> just tried booting ubuntu 7.04 desktop up on my computer and X is all screwed up
[10:45] <bXi> Cylent8: i dont have any other mice available atm
[10:45] <Cylent8> greetings, ditoa
[10:45] <ditoa> xorg.conf detected my Nvidia 6800 and monitor fine
[10:45] <ditoa> but its just a mess on my screen
[10:45] <dogshed> d2dchat: Does your laptop have some kind of switch to turn it on?
[10:46] <siloko> I just added a user to my system and after a reboot Netwrokmanager fails to connect to my wireless router, I believe this is an authentication issue - anyone got any ideas . . .
[10:46] <ditoa> ctrl+alt++ or - changes the resolution but all i get is bigger/smaller "mess" on the screen lol
[10:46] <D2DChat> dogshed, it's a desktop machine
[10:46] <pirothezero> is mediabuntu.sos in aptitude slow for anyone else download acroread at 10kb/s on ethernet =/
[10:46] <D2DChat> dogshed, so no switch, it's a card hooked into the mobo
[10:46] <dogshed> d2dchat: then you lost me
[10:46] <Cylent8> bXi: when did you install UBUNTU?
[10:47] <bXi> dont remember exactly
[10:47] <task> hi, can anzone tell me how to alter the keymap for the bash? without any X?
[10:47] <bXi> some time ago
[10:47] <ditoa> do you think my widescreen monitor could screw it up?
[10:48] <stefg> !fixres | ditoa
[10:48] <ubotu> ditoa: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:48] <ditoa> i dont think its the res
[10:48] <ditoa> its that it doesnt like my graphics card
[10:49] <ditoa> but its a stock 6800
[10:49] <jrib> task: loadkeys
[10:49] <Cylent8> ditoa: you didnt install the nvidia drivers yet?
[10:50] <ditoa> all i did was boot up from the live cd
[10:50] <ditoa> its not installed or anything yet
[10:50] <Cylent8> which means you didnt install the drivers yet
[10:50] <ditoa> nope
[10:50] <Cylent8> !nvidia
[10:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:50] <Cylent8> !nvidia | ditoa
[10:50] <ubotu> ditoa: please see above
[10:50] <ditoa> i was hoping i could just use the "restricted driver manager" like i did on my other computer
[10:51] <Cylent8> !nvidia | ditoa
[10:51] <ubotu> ditoa: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:51] <muNGos> who can help me about install a speedtouch 330 adsl usb modem??
[10:51] <muNGos> who can help me about install a speedtouch 330 adsl usb modem??
[10:51] <bl4cktone> Kalpik Thanks loads!
[10:52] <shafto> Having too many problems with all this wireless, how do I remove ubuntu and grub completley?
[10:52] <zials> muNGos,  - try http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[10:52] <Cylent8> shafto: reinstall windows
[10:52] <shafto> Cylent8: Windows is still installed on my hard drive
[10:52] <muNGos> ok tnx zials
[10:52] <shafto> Cylent8: Would I just remove the partition?
[10:52] <Cylent8> ok. reinstall it and that would remove grub
[10:53] <wastrel> you don't need to reinstall windows to remove grub
[10:53] <Cylent8> if you need further assistance please contact microsoft for all vista help
[10:53] <dad> I would rely like to be able to sync my palm with evolution without making doubles of my calander enteres
[10:53] <D2DChat> is version 7 also called "Edgy"?
[10:53] <wastrel> dad:  wouldn't we all
[10:54] <wastrel> D2DChat:  edgy is 6.10, 7.04 is feisty
[10:54] <dad> wastrel: Thanks any way
[10:54] <D2DChat> wastrel, haha ty
[10:54] <BaalBehrit> Hey, I have TV Card Asus P7131, it is recognized like ASUS 7135, kdetv is the program I use. It recognizes all the channel but sound won't work. What is the problem?
[10:54] <wastrel> dad:  i use jpilot :] 
[10:54] <stefg> shafto: you have to run fixmbr on the windows console to get grub out of your mbr (before you delete the partition, else you'll get an grub error 17)
[10:55] <BaalBehrit> In windows, in ChrisTV program, I selected render sound through the pci-bus and it worked, but I can't find similar option in kdetv nor tvtime.
[10:55] <HoocH_LAP> how do I make a Read Only file Writeable ?
[10:55] <jrib> HoocH_LAP: what file?
[10:55] <HoocH_LAP> xorg.conf
[10:56] <dogshed> I followed the instruction on winehq to add the wine repositories and it said no public key available.
[10:56] <linux_> list
[10:56] <zials> open it through the terminal
[10:56] <linux_> \list
[10:56] <zials> to make it writeable
[10:56] <jrib> HoocH_LAP: you run your editor with "sudo" so taht you have super user privileges:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:56] <jrib> !sudo > HoocH_LAP (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:56] <jrib> dogshed: read teh top of the page
[10:56] <LordLimecat> segmentation faults are bad, arent they
[10:57] <ttjl> lo all
[10:57] <ttjl> problem with ipw2200 wireless on feisty
[10:57] <wastrel> LordLimecat:  segfaults are an application crash
[10:57] <soothsay> Anybody know about apt pinning?
[10:57] <LordLimecat> and if its the system-log throwing the error? what exactly do i do?  what could cause it?
[10:58] <jrib> soothsay: yes...
[10:58] <ttjl> anyone know how to get ipw2200 card to work for wireless in fesity
[10:58] <ttjl> ?
[10:58] <stefg> LordLimecat: messed with your libc ?
[10:58] <Cylent8> !list | Linux_Junkie
[10:58] <ubotu> Linux_Junkie: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:58] <Enverex> ttjl, It doesn't "Just work"?
[10:59] <ttjl> no it doesnt it sees the network but i cant connect to it
[10:59] <ttjl> its really frustrating
[10:59] <wastrel> ttjl:  it Just Works for mine
[10:59] <LordLimecat> stefg: no, i havent been on the comp in a few days....last i remember, i left it and it went to suspend mode (S1 and s3 are enabled)....now, i come back, and like usual, the suspend messed everythin up, so i had to do a hard reboot
[10:59] <soothsay> jrib: I had feisty-backports enabled. I disabled it now and want to revert all my packages to non-backports (or at least a set of packages in particular). Can I pin backports some how to achieve this?
[10:59] <tunganet> What do i type in the terminal to get the same result as "netstats -n" for windows?
[10:59] <HoocH_LAP> I tried this command in terminal: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  But when the xorg.conf file is opened the file is empty
[11:00] <jere> tunganet netstat -na
[11:00] <tunganet> jere: ty
[11:00] <LordLimecat> stefg: also, possibly unrelated, my audigy 2 card is again on the fritz, and nothing unusual in dmesg
[11:00] <ttjl> when i go to network manager I have tried with and without wireless network enabled and it fails to connect
[11:00] <stefg> LordLimecat: hmmm, then filesystem corruption comes to mind... and audigy is a well known pita .... not related
[11:00] <LordLimecat> stefg: e2fsck?
[11:01] <jangell> I have two seperate lans.  One of them is 192.168.0.0   and 192.168.1.0.   I have added both of them to my /etc/network/interfaces file but I am unable to ping anything on 192.168.1.0/24 ..Am I doing something stupid?  Everyhting else on that lan talks fine.
[11:01] <stefg> LordLimecat: won't hurt
[11:01] <Cylent8> !tell LordLimecat about nvidia
[11:01] <jrib> soothsay: I don't think so, but try
[11:01] <LordLimecat> stefg: how do i run it on my harddrive?  cant unmount the drive that im running from, can i?
[11:01] <LordLimecat> Cylent8: how exactly did you know i have an nvidia?
[11:02] <Fabled> How to move hosted files with QFTP to other folder @host without reuploading?
[11:02] <Cylent8> !nvidia | LordLimecat
[11:02] <ubotu> LordLimecat: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:02] <LordLimecat> and ive already installed those, long ago
[11:02] <Slart> jangell: how many network cards do you have?
[11:02] <Cylent8> We install SPYWARE in your system, LordLimecat. It tells us stuff
[11:02] <jrib> soothsay: probably easier to come up with some script to figure out the packages that are installed from backports
[11:02] <Yggdrasil> whats new in here
[11:02] <jangell> Slart, Two.
[11:03] <pirothezero> fabled use scp : scp files host:~/pathtonewdirectory
[11:03] <Slart> jangell: can you ping your own ip-nbr on both cards?
[11:03] <LordLimecat> Cylent8: youre not making much sense.......i have an nvidia card, know to SOME degree what im doing and how to install vid drivers....
[11:03] <jangell> Slart, When I ping it says PING 192.168.1.2 (192.168.1.2) from 192.168.1.1 eth2: 56(84) bytes of data.
[11:03] <jangell> From 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
[11:03] <Slart> jangell: and ifconfig says ?
[11:03] <stefg> LordLimecat: 'sudo touch /forcefsk' and reboot
[11:03] <stefg> LordLimecat: 'sudo touch /forcefsck' and reboot
[11:03] <soothsay> jrib: But then I still have to problem of telling apt to install the specific version from main (or whatever collection)
[11:03] <jangell> Slart eth2  inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[11:03] <LordLimecat> alright, thanks, stefg :)
[11:04] <jangell> Slart, eth1  inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[11:04] <LordLimecat> i assume suspend and hibernate are nonos for feistyA?
[11:04] <Slart> jangell: I've got a similar setup on a machine here.. let me check it's settings
[11:05] <LordLimecat> brb, thanks in advance, stefg
[11:05] <ncd_> ha
[11:06] <jared> can anyone tell me how to get beryl to activate? ive gotten direct  rendering working. the driver side works, radeon driver and im pretty sure AIGLX is working as well.
[11:06] <jrib> soothsay: I *think* you can just do:  aptitude install PACKAGE/feisty   see: man aptitude, "install"
[11:06] <ncd_> tnx for that microsoft
[11:06] <jared> i click "select window manager" beryl on the roby in the top corner
[11:06] <yehweh> Hello everyone, Im trying to figure out what the keyring does. There is no help file on it.
[11:06] <obsethryl> ok i am having a very simple and stupid issue here
[11:06] <D2DChat> does lspci actually give you the name of my wireless card or does it give me the driver that is installed for it?
[11:06] <Slart> jangell: have you done anything special to the configuration?
[11:06] <jared> it doesnt seem to work
[11:06] <ncd_> i will rember I'm a graphically a tier 1 scum bag
[11:06] <jangell> Slart, Christ. I figured it out.  The server actually has 3 ports.. I've never looked at the back of the rack.
[11:06] <neufelni> hello, i have a question about saving files in ubuntu
[11:06] <obsethryl> every time i sudo apt-get install inkscape ---> MD5SUM mismatch. YEs i know how to use apt-get but this bewilders me
[11:07] <HoocH_LAP> Do I have to be standing in "root" to be able to open the xorg.conf file ?
[11:07] <Slart> jangell: hehe.. ok, easy solution there =)
[11:07] <soothsay> jrib: But feisty-backports is a component of Feisty. You mean PACKAGE/main
[11:07] <obsethryl> anyone had problems with inkscape install on 64bit ? THat is the only problem i have
[11:07] <aro> HoocH_LAP, no, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf should work
[11:07] <jangell> Slart, I wish I would have figured that out 9 hours ago while I'm working on a Saturday :)
[11:07] <Slart> obsethryl: worked last time I checked.. I can try again if you want
[11:07] <HoocH_LAP> aro: I'll try again :)
[11:07] <stefg> HoocH_LAP: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:07] <Slart> jangell: well.. next time you will =D
[11:07] <soothsay> jrib: I would still have to figure out the component of each package (they are not all main)
[11:07] <aro> HoocH_LAP, it didn't work before?
[11:07] <neufelni> how can you make it so that you have permission to save files to directories other than your home folder?
[11:07] <jrib> soothsay: I think "feisty" and "feisty-backports" are considered archives
[11:07] <obsethryl> Slart: did it just now, i dont know whay it does not want to install :s
[11:08] <zbrown> Anyone have some suggestions for router friendly DSL? Tht is DSL service that will work with a Linksys WRT54G wireless router
[11:08] <HoocH_LAP> aro: no, the file opened and it was empty :(
[11:08] <obsethryl> Slart: any ideas? clean & update have no effect on this
[11:08] <Slart> obsethryl: I'll give it a try... you installed from the ubuntu repository?
[11:08] <obsethryl> Slart: yes, it is an ubuntu repo, official one
[11:08] <HoocH_LAP> aro:  I searched for the file and opened it after to see if it had stuff in it, and it did
[11:09] <EcoBlue> how do I manually refresh the desktop&application menu?
[11:09] <aro> HoocH_LAP, you're sure you're typing /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[11:09] <obsethryl> Slart: inkscape_0.45-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[11:09] <obsethryl> that is the problem
[11:09] <HoocH_LAP> yes I'm very sure
[11:09] <aro> HoocH_LAP, an empty file usually means you've created a new file because you attempted to open a nonexistant file
[11:09] <obsethryl> now i can get it and dpkg it but i dont get why apt does not like it
[11:09] <soothsay> jrib: You are right. It works
[11:09] <pyrops> a problem...
[11:09] <pyrops> sudo apt-get update
[11:09] <pyrops> E: Type \ is not known on line 36 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:09] <cables> EcoBlue, is a new program not showing up in Applications?
[11:09] <soothsay> jrib: Thanks
[11:10] <aro> pyrops, check line 36 in the file that it lists
[11:10] <NrbelexUbuntu> What's the default spot for config files (i.e. Apache)?
[11:10] <Flannel> NrbelexUbuntu: /etc/apache for Apache1.3, /etc/apache2/ for apache2
[11:10] <HoocH_LAP> aro: the file do exists, I did a search for it on my filesystem and found it where it is located, and this file had the stuff it is supposed to have
[11:10] <NrbelexUbuntu> Flannel, thanks
[11:11] <Slart> obsethryl: ok.. downloading... installing... worked fine here
[11:11] <obsethryl> it is driving me nuts here
[11:11] <Slart> obsethryl: have you tried doing an "sudo apt-get clean" and then installing it again?
[11:11] <EcoBlue> cables:  I'm trying to find my windows app installed via crossover
[11:11] <obsethryl> Slart: yup
[11:11] <obsethryl> no change
[11:11] <aro> HoocH_LAP, OK so what's the problem? You opened the file and viewed its contents, did you want to edit the contents?
[11:11] <rollerskatejamms> EcoBlue, They make menu items usually.
[11:12] <HoocH_LAP> aro: yes I want to edit it :)
[11:12] <ttjl> back again-everytime i try and connect to my netgear wireless the connection fails
[11:12] <aro> HoocH_LAP, alt+F2 and type gksudo gedit, then open the xorg file how you normally did it
[11:12] <ttjl> i have checked the wap key and it is correct
[11:12] <cables> EcoBlue, the Applications menu can't build itself, and some things unfortunately don't add themselves to the menu. If you know how to start that app, you need to add the command to the menu (right click > edit menus)
[11:12] <ttjl> wtf is going on?
[11:12] <Slart> obsethryl: fb3a7dcc265959543178212cc07b7fe1  inkscape_0.45-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb  that's the md5sum for my package
[11:12] <HoocH_LAP> aro: I'll give it a try :)
[11:13] <Slart> obsethryl: the package cache is in /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:13] <Slart> obsethryl: what is your md5sum?
[11:13] <ttjl> #pot
[11:13] <hreiser> get hyphy
[11:13] <obsethryl> Slart: no luck
[11:13] <hreiser> go stupid
[11:13] <hreiser> go dumb
[11:13] <Slart> obsethryl: you didn't find the file?
[11:14] <obsethryl> Slart: no i know where it lies
[11:14] <Shoeb> Hello, someone tells me that when I install software RAID that Ubuntu won't install grub on both HDDs. And so if one drive crashes, the other one won't boot up. Is that true?
[11:14] <^Juan^> Any way to check the pppoe connection uptime?
[11:14] <obsethryl> it sits on partial directory because it fails md5sum
[11:14] <fre4k> Hi guys .. i'm having problems with the microphone .. speakers are working fine. I'm not able to record anything. Can someone help me with that.
[11:14] <bXi> http://kerneltrap.org/?q=comment/reply/2199/195543 anyone familiar with this?
[11:14] <obsethryl> Slart: i am doing a manual md5 on what i have in partial
[11:14] <Slart> obsethryl: if you run the command "md5sum /var/cache/apt/archives/inkscape_0.45-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb" what do you get?
[11:14] <stefg> !raid | Shoeb
[11:14] <ubotu> Shoeb: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:14] <obsethryl> Slart: different md5sum as the apt states of course
[11:15] <^Juan^> is there a command to check the pppoe connection uptime?
[11:15] <obsethryl> i do not understand why apt-get fails only on this particular package despite everything else is clean
[11:15] <ditoa> tried the 6.10 and 7.04 live cds and they both screw up the same
[11:15] <ditoa> its weird as it has always worked for me in the past
[11:15] <Slart> obsethryl: well.. either the package is wrong or the list of md5sums are wrong.. just trying to find out which it is
[11:15] <The_PHP_Jedi> hello
[11:15] <pyrops> aro, what should be on the list?
[11:15] <The_PHP_Jedi> :)
[11:15] <ditoa> kinda annoyin :(
[11:15] <stefg> ^Juan^: plog ? (not sure, has been a while... )
[11:16] <^Juan^> uhm
[11:16] <^Juan^> i'll check
[11:16] <defcon> anyone know how to install software to ubuntu from another distro live cd
[11:16] <HoocH_LAP> aro: can't seem to find anything on root when in the editor ? could it have something to do with permission ?
[11:16] <Slart> obsethryl: what repository are you using?
[11:16] <obsethryl> Slart: http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:16] <^Juan^> plog  shows  you  the  last few lines of /var/log/ppp.log. If that file
[11:16] <^Juan^>        doesnt exist, it shows you the last few lines of your  /var/log/syslog
[11:16] <^Juan^>        file, but excluding the lines not generated by pppd.
[11:16] <aro> pyrops, your error said something about a backslash, which should probably be a forward slash
[11:16] <stefg> defcon: bad idea
[11:16] <^Juan^> it showed me nothing
[11:16] <defcon> why
[11:16] <aro> pryops, are you sure you didn't type a backslash by accident
[11:16] <defcon> ?
[11:16] <tunganet> What do i type in terminal to get the same result as typing netstat -n | find "4000" in windows?
[11:17] <The_PHP_Jedi> I'm having a problem w/ my new HDD. I copied the partitions over to the new HDD from the old HDD (win recovery, winxp, linux-swap, ubuntu feisty). Feisty boots perfectly. I'm only having problems with Windows booting. It hangs at 'Starting up...' . Any ideas? I've reinstalled GRUB on the new HDD.
[11:17] <obsethryl> Slart: it might be repo - related, i am still working on it
[11:17] <defcon> stefg, well how can I even though it may be a bad idea
[11:17] <bruenig> tunganet, what does that do exactly
[11:17] <aro> HoocH_LAP, when you type gksudo gedit, you should be asked for your root password which will then open gedit as root and allow editing of all files
[11:17] <neufelni> can anyone here help me with my file saving problem?
[11:17] <pyrops> are yes
[11:17] <bruenig> !anyone | neufelni
[11:17] <ubotu> neufelni: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:17] <pyrops> \## Beryl repository
[11:17] <tunganet> bruenig: i think it looks for ip that ends with .4000
[11:17] <wastrel> tunganet:   |grep 4000
[11:17] <pyrops> thats whats written there
[11:17] <aro> pyrops, remove that \
[11:17] <melchior> whats the name of the "popup" terminal emulator?
[11:17] <fre4k> I'm having problems with the microphone .. speakers are working fine. I'm not able to record anything. Can someone help me with that.
[11:17] <bruenig> tunganet, ifconfig | grep 4000
[11:17] <tunganet> wastrel: so.. netstat -na | grep 4000?
[11:17] <cory4219> how do u download .exe programs
[11:18] <pyrops> how did that happen??
[11:18] <bruenig> or that
[11:18] <The_PHP_Jedi> cory4219, you just download them. you can run them using wine
[11:18] <wastrel> tunganet:  looks good
[11:18] <The_PHP_Jedi> just double click to open using wine
[11:18] <The_PHP_Jedi> or use command line
[11:18] <tunganet> wastrel: thanks it works :)
[11:18] <Slart> obsethryl: I'm downloading the package too.. see if I get another md5sum too
[11:18] <dave_> ok having big trouble and the answers probably real simple but i have 3 hard drives in my pc, a 40gb and two 10gbs , the 40 gb is what ubuntu boots off of , the two 10s are now empty, i have an extra 40gb i want to replace the two 10gbs with, how should i go about this?
[11:18] <aro> pyrops, maybe you accidentally typed it in? or whatever you did to add beryl repositories added it by accident
[11:18] <obsethryl> Slart: thanks for your trouble
[11:18] <aro> pyrops, i'm not sure :)
[11:18] <cory4219> what is wine
[11:18] <defcon> how do i install software to ubuntu from another distro live cd
[11:19] <stefg> !info yakuake | melchior
[11:19] <ubotu> melchior: yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[11:19] <defcon> win emulator
[11:19] <aro> !wine > cory4219
[11:19] <aro> wine is not an emulator
[11:19] <melchior> stefg, thanx
[11:19] <asc> dave_: I'd probably do it by removing the 10 GB ones and plugging in the 40.
[11:19] <dave_> if i change anything with my current HD setup it just wont boot
[11:19] <Enverex> Wine isn't an Emulator >.<
[11:19] <neufelni> i already did before but no one answered. But anyway, how do you make it so you have permission to save/paste files to folders other than your home folder?
[11:19] <^Juan^> is there a command to check the pppoe connection uptime?
[11:19] <dave_> tried it
[11:19] <Slart> obsethryl: nope.. md5sums aren't correcnt.. perhaps they have a corrupt copy
[11:19] <Flannel> defcon: what do you want to install?  I don't believe you can.
[11:19] <Mookie> Rhythmbox question: I named my library and imported my entire directory full of *.flac files. Rhythmbox does not appear to retrieve any meta data for them. How does it determine Album and Artist?
[11:19] <dave_> wont boot
[11:19] <pyrops> hehe cheers ;)
[11:19] <asc> dave_: Yeah, that could make it more difficult.
[11:19] <dave_> i get literally, 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 etc..
[11:19] <defcon> flannel tools
[11:19] <cory4219> can u install like limewire
[11:20] <obsethryl> Slart: how do we notify them?
[11:20] <The_PHP_Jedi> yeah, Wine is not an emulator. it just gives the app the 'framework' or 'resources' to run in Linux
[11:20] <defcon> its a security live cd, I need to audit my network and I cant find the software from the live cd anymore
[11:20] <dave_> i think its because my primary boot disk is hdc, the one i want to keep
[11:20] <obsethryl> Slart: it is the single package from the entire repo that will fail
[11:20] <Slart> obsethryl: I have no idea.. a mail to someone perhaps.. let's check the main page
[11:20] <rollerskatejamms> Don't install limewire.
[11:20] <dave_> but how can i make ubuntu know what to do
[11:20] <rollerskatejamms> Install frostwire.
[11:20] <bruenig> limewire works
[11:20] <rollerskatejamms> Frostwire = Limewire - Bloat
[11:20] <nekomancer> Hello room.  Are there more functional drivers for older ATI cards than the standard ati driver that ships on the kernel?  fglrx doesn't work with it.
[11:20] <Slart> obsethryl: this address is available at the front page ftpadm@ntua.gr
[11:21] <bruenig> frostwire = bloat
[11:21] <rollerskatejamms> bruenig, Not compared to limewire.
[11:21] <Slart> obsethryl: .gr is .. greece?
[11:21] <bruenig> rollerskatejamms, java is all you have to know
[11:21] <asc> dave_: I'm not quite sure exactly what the problem is. What is this '99 99 99 (...)' of which you speak?
[11:21] <Fezzler> Noticing on Yahoo The 9 audio and video are out of sync in Ubuntu
[11:21] <obsethryl> Slart: yup :)
[11:21] <Fezzler> anything to check?
[11:21] <obsethryl> Slart: can you give me direct link for your package please?
[11:21] <cory4219> where can i find the wine program
[11:21] <Slart> obsethryl: I'm working on it
[11:22] <obsethryl> Slart: okay, thank you
[11:22] <dave_> its what i get when i try to boot  in any other configuration other than my current
[11:22] <aro> !wine > cory4219
[11:22] <^Juan^> !pppd > Juan
[11:22] <rollerskatejamms> bruenig, yeah but find another client that isnt java and we'll talk.
[11:22] <^Juan^> ooops
[11:22] <^Juan^> !pppd > ^Juan^
[11:22] <bruenig> gtk-gnutella
[11:22] <dave_> just a bunch of 99's in arow
[11:22] <dave_> and then nothing
[11:23] <bruenig> limewire is pointless anyways
[11:23] <bruenig> or that network, the gnutella network is pointless
[11:23] <Slart> obsethryl: here it is http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/inkscape/inkscape_0.45-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[11:23] <obsethryl> Slart: i am trying to change the repo
[11:23] <obsethryl> Slart: thanks
[11:23] <Slart> obsethryl: you're welcome
[11:23] <obsethryl> i will try with another repo first to make sure it is a repo problem
[11:24] <ender> hey people
[11:24] <^Juan^> hey
[11:24] <asc> dave_: Kinda on two conversations, so my replies will have high latency. What gives you that error?
[11:24] <ender> anyone knows how i can change the mapping of my keyboard ?
[11:24] <nekomancer> ender, to what?
[11:25] <ender> nekomancer, what u mean to what?
[11:25] <ender> I want to change the mapping of the keys
[11:25] <HoocH_LAP> aro: I got it to work :P I forgot to type gksudo infront of gedit after pressing alt+f2 :P
[11:25] <ender> not the whole language map
[11:25] <dave_> asc when i put the new HD in , when i switch the two 10gbs, any different config than what is in there now, wont boot
[11:25] <aro> HoocH_LAP, :)
[11:25] <^Juan^> ender, system - prefs - keyboard
[11:25] <^Juan^> which keys
[11:25] <obsethryl> Slart: yes it was repo - related indeed, i am sending the admin an email, the italian repo works just fine as probably the swedish one
[11:25] <rollerskatejamms> ender, Damn you for registering the best nick.
[11:25] <asc> dave_: Does it get to GRUB, or does it stop at BIOS?
[11:26] <ender> rollerskatejamms, hehe
[11:26] <defcon> whats the best way to extract applications from a live cd to install on your *nix box
[11:26] <rollerskatejamms> ender, That's like my favorite book.
[11:26] <dave_> stops at bios, never makes it to grub
[11:26] <Slart> obsethryl: good job, it's probably just something gone wrong with the mirroring
[11:26] <^Juan^> is there a command to check the pppoe connection uptime?
[11:26] <asc> Ah.
[11:26] <ender> rollerskatejamms, mine too (one of my favorite). have read it twice or thrice
[11:26] <rollerskatejamms> defcon, If you have a full system installed you can add the cd to your sources.list file.
[11:26] <dave_> it will boot from cd
[11:26] <Slart> defcon: what do you want to install?
[11:26] <dave_> but thats it
[11:26] <rollerskatejamms> ender, Yeah, didn't think much of the sequels though.
[11:26] <VSpike> has anyone installed the medibuntu packages like amarok, k3b, kaffeine.. ?
[11:27] <defcon> rollerskatejamms, where is that located in ubuntu
[11:27] <Slart> VSpike: I use amarok
[11:27] <rollerskatejamms> defcon, /etc/apt/sourceslist
[11:27] <defcon> thnx
[11:27] <rollerskatejamms> defcon, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:27] <rollerskatejamms> defcon, but I don't know the proper syntax for adding cd repositories
[11:27] <VSpike> Slart: what does the medibuntu package give you over the standard one?
[11:27] <asc> dave_: Have you checked what happens if you disable one of the spare drives in BIOS and try to boot?
[11:27] <rollerskatejamms> VSpike, a flux capacitor
[11:27] <melchior> stefg, so kewl :-)
[11:27] <ender> rollerskatejamms, i will disagree.Xenocide and Speaker of the Dead were as good
[11:27] <defcon> ok
[11:27] <VSpike> rollerskatejamms: sweet :)
[11:27] <Slart> VSpike: oh.. I have no idea.. haven't install the medibuntu package.. but I used amarok.. sorry
[11:27] <chalcedony> what's the comand to show which linux i'm running?
[11:27] <Research> anyone know a good place to talk to MMORPG players?
[11:27] <stefg> melchior: hmmHmm
[11:28] <thug> to use localepurge correctly do i need to select the language i want to keep or select the one i dont want to keep ?
[11:28] <dave_> yes, same thing, all other configs wont boot but what i have now
[11:28] <VSpike> Research: in an mmorpg?
[11:28] <SurfnKid> UBUNTU ROCKS
[11:28] <^Juan^> chalcedony, uname
[11:28] <SurfnKid> WANNA ARGUE WITH ME?
[11:28] <ender> anyone has any idea how i can change the mapping of the keys in ububtu? just few keys not the whole language map
[11:28] <SurfnKid> :)
[11:28] <^Juan^> ender, special keys like multimedia?
[11:28] <chalcedony> ^Juan^:  ty
[11:28] <Blissex> ender: yes.
[11:29] <Research> i do not have one, i was wondering if someone could direct me to a server that they knew had players on it
[11:29] <ender> I have a few keys which dont work
[11:29] <^Juan^> ender, try keytouch
[11:29] <Research> i need to ask them questions for a paper
[11:29] <Slart> defcon: hmm.. what is the software called in the real world? open source? windows game? what is it?
[11:29] <ender> i want to assign them to other keys so with a comnation (Shift ) i can use them too
[11:29] <VSpike> Research: try second life
[11:29] <HoocH_LAP> time for a reboot :P
[11:29] <defcon> slart it is backtrack 2 security suite
[11:29] <Research> VSpike: thanks
[11:29] <jackie_> Hi!! sendmail stopped sending mail. My mailq is full of unsend messages? How can I flush all these messages
[11:29] <pyrops> the update doesnt work either., it says E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:30] <dave_> is there a recovery/rescue disk for fiesty maybe or some way to boot my current grub on a disk
[11:30] <chalcedony> ^Juan^: umm no. ~$ uname
[11:30] <chalcedony> Linux
[11:30] <chalcedony> ~$
[11:30] <thug> please someone explain this to me " localepurge will remove all locale files from your system but the ones  for the language codes you select now. " so the ones i select will be removed ?
[11:30] <asc> dave_: That's kind of pecular. BIOS is set to boot from hdc, not one of the 10GB ones? GRUB could be on the wrong disk....
[11:30] <^Juan^> chalcedony, man uname
[11:31] <ender> Juan thnx
[11:31] <HoocH_LAP> looks like the touchpad works perfect now :P
[11:31] <soothsay> Does anyone know how to list packages that come from a particular component (e.g. universe)? dpkg-query -W -f '${Package}\t${Source}\t${Version}\n' doesn't seem to produce the Source field
[11:31] <chalcedony> Juan i'm an adult with learning disabilites. i ask because man pages are hard for me to read.
[11:31] <Cristina23> hola
[11:31] <spasticteapot> Anyone here used the M-audio Audiophile USB soundcard under Ubuntu?
[11:31] <^Juan^> hola Cristina23
[11:31] <spasticteapot> I just bought one because I hoped it would actually work under Linux.
[11:31] <spasticteapot> So far, no dice.
[11:31] <spasticteapot> :(
[11:31] <Cristina23> Hombre Juan
[11:31] <Cristina23> que bien leer un 'hola'
[11:31] <dave_> so how could i make sure grub is going tothe right place? i have formatted the two 10's also by the way so there shouldnt be anything on them
[11:31] <dave_> unless the boot sector stays in there
[11:31] <chalcedony> i need to know how to confirm which ubuntu is on this system?
[11:32] <pdlnhrd> does this look about right?   find /media/music -name '*.mp3' -exec cp -v '{}' /media/abe       if i want the files to be flat , no directories ?
[11:32] <danlock2> version?
[11:32] <chalcedony> i need to know how to confirm which ubuntu iand which Xchat.
[11:32] <Slart> defcon: I don't find anything reminiscant of rollerskatejamms in the included tools in backtrack
[11:32] <Flannel> chalcedony: lsb_release -a
[11:32] <rollerskatejamms> Slart, huh?
[11:32] <carlos> hola
[11:32] <Cristina23> hola carlos
[11:32] <dave_> should grub-install /dev/hdc1 work?
[11:32] <Slart> rollerskatejamms: oh.. sorry... didn't know it was a nick.. my bad
[11:32] <Flannel> !grub | dave_, first link
[11:32] <ubotu> dave_, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:33] <cyclops> hello
[11:33] <carlos> se complica esto un poco
[11:33] <asc> dave_: Hmm, I don't know if it would clear the boot sector or not.
[11:33] <Slart> defcon: you want to install the whole thing?
[11:33] <Cristina23> yo aun leo 113 lineas mas arriba
[11:33] <Slart> defcon: or some specific tool?
[11:33] <Cristina23> traduciendo
[11:33] <asc> dave_: I believe you just want /dev/hdc; /dev/hdc1 would probably ruin your partition.
[11:33] <chalcedony> Flannel: ty much that got it:)
[11:33] <^Juan^> is there a command to check the pppoe connection uptime?
[11:34] <Slart> defcon: all the tools are available here http://www.remote-exploit.org/codes_tools.html
[11:34] <hector> hey guys i got a hp pavillion dv2000 and have a problem with audio on feisty anyone can help?
[11:34] <carlos> chao cristina, prefiero el sms
[11:34] <Flannel> !es | carlos, Cristina23
[11:34] <ubotu> carlos, Cristina23: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:34] <Cristina23> gracias
[11:35] <pushpop`> How would one mount a directory on there ubuntu machine to windows: Example I want to map a folder on my ubuntu machine and have it as a mapped drive in my computer?
[11:35] <thegattaca> Does anyone know if the newest release does support MGA (matrox graphics) drivers? MGA in edgy was broken ...
[11:35] <dave_> ok, thanks man ill try this
[11:35] <hector> hey guys i got a hp pavillion dv2000 and have a problem with audio on feisty anyone can help?
[11:35] <ender> hey everybody
[11:35] <Mookie> pushpop`: Mounting an NTFS partition is possible, but I would suggest it is only useful for read-only access.
[11:35] <ender> check songbirdnest.com
[11:36] <ender> it's the next best thing in media players
[11:36] <Slart> hector: describe your problem and you might get some answers
[11:36] <aro> You can write to ntfs, though it won't respect permissions
[11:36] <ksnipz> join #grub
[11:36] <cua0> Mookie : sounds like he wants to do some kind of network sharing?
[11:36] <chalcedony> hector: try asking specific qustions that show that you have put some work into it?
[11:36] <pushpop`> aro: thats fine, would you know where I could find a good how to?
[11:36] <Mookie> cua0: Ah.
[11:36] <asc> dave_: Yeah, you want /dev/hdc.  Good luck.
[11:37] <^Juan^> is there a command to check the pppoe connection uptime?
[11:37] <aro> !ntfs > pushpop`
[11:37] <soothsay> ^Juan^: I don't know of a command, but would be surprised if there was none. The hard way to do it would be check /var/log/messages
[11:37] <aro> !ntfs-3g > pushpop`
[11:37] <aro> Check pm
[11:37] <pushpop`> Thank you!
[11:37] <Nitrooo> (list
[11:38] <^Juan^> soothsay, i want to check it while it's active
[11:38] <cua0> does anyone know the bus ID for a PCIE card?
[11:38] <wehttamb> i cant connect to my wireless network, i have installed the driver for my usb wireless adapter using ndiswrapper and now it lists my network as available but i cannot connect
[11:38] <cua0> doesn't appear to work as a PCI bus id
[11:38] <ender> anyone knows a good python channel?
[11:38] <OuZo> how do i play swf files? thanks
[11:38] <cua0> OuZo : isntall flash
[11:38] <Slart> ender: just a wild guess.. #python ?
[11:38] <OuZo> !swf
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <OuZo> ender: #python
[11:38] <erUSUL> !flash
[11:38] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:38] <Mookie> Rhythmbox question: I importe a bunch of *.flac file and the meta data isn't getting retrieved. How does Rhythmbox know what song it is so I can get it to retrieve the Album and Artist names?
[11:38] <aro> flashplugin-nonfree
[11:38] <soothsay> ^Juan^: I'm not sure what you mean. There should be a log message that tells you when it has established a connection
[11:39] <ender> OuZo, doesnt work
[11:39] <pushpop`> aro: why would I need to mount a windows partition?
[11:39] <ender> maybe on another server?
[11:39] <hector> slart: i've just installed feisty got everything working but i dont have audio... i've checked and the sound card is recognized though i cant play any sound even if i change the hardware in sound options (oss, alsa, ...)
[11:39] <VSpike> is there any way to find my effective permissions on a file?
[11:39] <cua0> ls -al
[11:39] <wehttamb>  i cant connect to my wireless network, i have installed the driver for my usb wireless adapter using ndiswrapper and now it lists my network as available but i cannot connect
[11:39] <cua0> VSpike  ^
[11:39] <^Juan^> soothsay, my isp changes ip every 12 hours. i want to see how long the current connection has been up
[11:39] <soothsay> VSpike: What does 'effective' mean?
[11:40] <Slart> hector: do you dual boot? or is ubuntu the only os on this machine?
[11:40] <aro> pushpop`, are you trying to get access to a windows partition in linux?
[11:40] <yehweh> OuZo: embed the swf into a html file and open it in the browser
[11:40] <wehttamb> how can i connect to a wireless network in feisty
[11:40] <pushpop`> aro: no I want to map a directory on my linux box to my windows machine
[11:40] <hector> slart: i got windoze and feisty
[11:40] <OuZo> yehweh: is this the only way?
[11:40] <VSpike> soothsay: I mean given the user/group that I running as, what are my permissions - r/w/x
[11:40] <aro> pushpop`, over a network?
[11:40] <Slart> hector: and the sound works in windows?
[11:40] <cua0> pushpop` : you will probably have to install filesharing
[11:41] <hector> slart: yeap
[11:41] <pushpop`> aro: yes
[11:41] <VSpike> soothsay: I know it's simple to work out, but just useful as a double check
[11:41] <yehweh> maybe not but you said it doesnt work otherwise right
[11:41] <aro> !samba > pushpop`
[11:41] <cua0> that's what it's called.. samba
[11:41] <pushpop`> aro: want it to be a mapped drive under my computer in windows
[11:41] <Slart> hector: what kind of soundcard do you use? built in you motherboard? external? pci? usb?
[11:41] <VSpike> soothsay: the command makes more sense in something like ntfs where its really hard to work out :)
[11:41] <cua0> pushpop` : yea, samba. man samba or apt-get samba
[11:41] <pushpop`> ok
[11:41] <pushpop`> thanks
[11:41] <soothsay> VSpike: I'm not sure I'm clear. What is there to 'work out'? Does ls -l not give you what you want?
[11:41] <wehttamb> i cant connect to my wireless network under feisty
[11:41] <cory4219> how do u download wine
[11:42] <cua0> cory4219: same way you download porn?
[11:42] <irotas> i have a stupid question .. when you go to 'System --> Quit ...' and hit 'Suspend', what command actually gets executed?
[11:42] <soothsay> ^Juan^: grep -i 'Connect time' /var/log/messages
[11:42] <Mookie> This "shared folders" administration option. What kind of sharing is it? NFS? Surely it's not SMB.
[11:42] <irotas> i can't find that item in the menu editor
[11:42] <wastrel> smb
[11:42] <nekomancer> cory4219, type "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine" into a terminal window
[11:42] <^Juan^> soothsay, that shows the previous *ended* connections
[11:42] <hector> slart: it cames with the laptop but is on pci port
[11:43] <^Juan^> i want to see the current uptime
[11:43] <marthmm> wow
[11:43] <VSpike> soothsay: problem is, vmware says I don't have permission to access a virtual machine file.  looks to me like I should have.  So I wanted to double check somehow cos either vmware is telling lies or I'm missing something stupid
[11:43] <aro> cory4219, I have provided you with the information many times now but you seem to refuse to accept it
[11:43] <marthmm> afief, quite a few here
[11:43] <nekomancer> cory4219, after it installs wine, you need to run "winecfg" and set up a drive C
[11:43] <^Juan^> !wine > cory4219
[11:43] <Slart> hector: it's a laptop? with a pci connector?
[11:43] <afief> marthmm, it's always like this:-)
[11:43] <Slart> hector: first time I've heard of a laptop with a pci slot
[11:43] <jrib> !software > cory4219 (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:43] <hitman> the splash img with is gz is't changing, butt i have change the image, any one?
[11:43] <afief> marthmm, always lots of noobs to help
[11:43] <cua0> i'm scared to even venture my query
[11:43] <h4wk0> !eurovision-joke
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eurovision-joke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <h4wk0> :/
[11:44] <marthmm> afief, this chan is gonna go sky high soon i expect - with Dell an all and it gaining popularity so fast
[11:44] <soothsay> ^Juan^: Maybe 'PAP authentication succeeded' is a reliable indicator of connection established? Find the last one and extract the time, then do the math for current time.
[11:44] <hector> slart: well, on the device manager says this "High definition audio controller" and says BUS type: PCI
[11:44] <cory4219> where do u put that at
[11:44] <afief> marthmm, oh please no:D open another channel for the dell boys crying "how do i make WoW work?!"
[11:44] <MerlinZShell> What should i download to be able to play M4A Music?
[11:44] <cua0> MerlinZShell : xmms should?
[11:45] <marthmm> haha
[11:45] <marthmm> cya
[11:45] <^Juan^> soothsay, i was hoping there was a command that just shows the uptime
[11:45] <soothsay> VSpike: I don't know much about VMWare. Maybe it runs under a different UID?
[11:45] <MerlinZShell> isnt there anything i can add so that amarok can play them ?
[11:45] <grimboy> Hey, anyone know how do get midi with timidity work with wine?
[11:45] <LordLimecat> stefg: thanks, sound now works, even tho i still get segfaults @ gnome-system-log
[11:45] <cua0> MerlinZShell : no idea, never used amarok
[11:45] <LordLimecat> but at least i have sound (TONS of errors, i think HD is dying)
[11:45] <Slart> hector: hmm.. it might be emulating some kind of pci connection but I doubt it's an actual pci slot in your laptop.. it's way to big... you've probably got some kind of built in soundcard... you had to install drivers for it when you were using windows, right?
[11:45] <crimsun> johanbr: it really depends.  Is there a toggle on the hardware itself that allows it to change modes from mass storage to audio?  (Some Motorolas do that.)
[11:45] <VSpike> ^Juan^: uptime ?
[11:46] <LordGreyhound> is there any utility on the LIVE CD that allows me to connect through ftp ? :)
[11:46] <jrr> it shouldn't be hard to get my audigy to work, should it?
[11:46] <^Juan^> VSpike, current pppoe connection uptime
[11:46] <grimboy> In winecfg under sound > alsa > midi out all there is is Midi Through
[11:46] <Slart> LordGreyhound: ftp
[11:46] <VSpike> ^Juan^: ohh soz :)
[11:46] <Flannel> LordGreyhound: Places > Connect to Server
[11:46] <soothsay> ^Juan^: Yeah. Like I said I don't know of any myself. I was trying to help out and point out one way to do it yourself (if you really need it and can't find a command)
[11:46] <LordGreyhound> lol
[11:46] <LordGreyhound> thanks
[11:46] <LordGreyhound> I should've looked first
[11:46] <^Juan^> soothsay, i know and i aprecciate it
[11:47] <hitman> the splash img with is gz is't changing, butt i have change the image, any one?
[11:47] <Slart> LordGreyhound: =D.. I think you can do ftp downloads using firefox too.. there are probably something in nautilus aswell.. but the command line is a safe bet.. it's always there
[11:47] <aro> hitman, I don't understand what you're asking
[11:47] <hector> slart: yeap
[11:47] <johanbr> crimsun: Thank you for replying. The only USB toggle I found was to switch to Modem mode. That gave me two USB interfaces, "Communications" and "CDC data".
[11:48] <hector> slart: but with edgy i've got no problem with sound
[11:48] <nixnooo> how can i make a launcher that does "sudo ifconfig eth0 down" and "sudo rutilt" at the same time?
[11:49] <Slart> hector: oh.. then it should work in feisty too... that's odd... I've never used ubuntu on a laptop before.. but ask the channel again.. mention that it worked in edgy and that it's a laptop.. you might want to include the brand of the laptop too
[11:49] <hitman> aro the splash image "ubuntu" @ boot @ ubuntu-artwork atz I'v changed it but it's not showing the new image
[11:49] <Slart> nixnooo: make a script and run the script from the launcher?
[11:49] <hector> slart: ok slart thanks
[11:49] <soothsay> ^Juan^: From a google search: You can check the creation time of /var/run/ppp0.pid
[11:50] <D2DChat> Does anyone know how to get ndiswrapper to stop recognizing the alternative driver?
[11:50] <Chetwin> Is there a Visual C programming environment for ubuntu???
[11:50] <flayspray> Has anybody had any luck getting a Samsung ML-2010 printer working with Feisty? I've tried everything I could think of and still no go.
[11:50] <nixnooo> Slart, one problem is that im using kiba-dock and i cant put scripts into the launcher bar
[11:50] <grimboy> Hey, anyone know how do get midi with timidity work with wine? In winecfg under sound > alsa > midi out all there is is Midi Through.
[11:50] <chalcedony> D2DChat: i'd try googling ubuntu "visual c"
[11:51] <Slart> nixnooo: can you put commands? or just executable files? paramters for the executable files?
[11:51] <^Juan^> soothsay, that shows "4141" :-\
[11:51] <D2DChat> chalcedony, wait i think i need to reboot to get it to work
[11:51] <D2DChat> because i blacklisted bcm43xx
[11:51] <hector> hey guys i got a HP Pavillion dv2000laptop and when i upgraded to feisty the sound stop working, any idea on how to fix it? its a built in intel sound card
[11:51] <Slart> nixnooo: can't you run "bash your_awsome_script.sh" ?
[11:51] <D2DChat> but in the wiki it says it won't work unless u restart
[11:51] <nixnooo> cant i do something like "sudo ifconfig eth0 down & sudo rutilt"
[11:52] <soothsay> ^Juan^: No, not the contents. Check when the file was created. ls -l
[11:52] <Pelo> !sound ! hector
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound ! hector - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <^Juan^> oh lol
[11:52] <Pelo> !sound | hector
[11:52] <ubotu> hector: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:52] <Slart> nixnooo: perhaps.. haven't tried it myself
[11:52] <nixnooo> i can add rutilt launcher to kiba-dock and edit the command
[11:52] <Chetwin> chalcedony: I remember in suse there we're graphical environments for development, but I don't know if ubuntu offers them
[11:52] <Slart> nixnooo: can't you add the bash executable then?
[11:52] <nixnooo> Slart, that would be the proper command though right?
[11:53] <Enverex> Chetwin, Anjuta is one...
[11:53] <nixnooo> Slart, no I don't think I can
[11:53] <u2k7> hello! how do you lock zome mode in beryj so when you move mouse view doesnt change???
[11:53] <u2k7> *zoom
[11:53] <Pelo> u2k7,   #beryl
[11:54] <jamie_> any one know how to share internet bandwidth betweend users?
[11:55] <defcon> i installed vmware player and it loads and dies immediately
[11:55] <Pelo> jamie_,  users one the same computer ?
[11:55] <defcon> what do I do
[11:55] <Slart> nixnooo: have you tried? I think the executable is  /bin/bash
[11:55] <flayspray> Does anyone know how to get a Samsung ML-2010 printer working on Feisty?
[11:55] <Chetwin> !kdevelop
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <Pelo> defcon, #vmware
[11:55] <jamie_> yes thats right they will be using clients
[11:55] <Enverex> flayspray, Checked Linuxprinting.org?
[11:55] <defcon> thnx
[11:55] <Mookie> jamie_: One machine must be the gateway through which the other talks. You want Networking Address Translation (NAT) ability. Most routers bought at the store can do this.
[11:55] <flayspray> Looked there but nothing there worked for me...
[11:56] <D2DChat> chalcedony, way to be useless btw
[11:56] <Pelo> flayspray,  pick a pinter in the same number family
[11:56] <cua0> has anyone installed the opensource Radeon drivers successfully?
[11:56] <jamie_> Mookie will this work with ltsp? as the user will be clients?
[11:57] <flayspray> Pelo, ok, I'll try it
[11:57] <nixnooo> cua0 which video card?
[11:57] <cua0> nixnooo : radeon 9800 pro
[11:57] <cua0> nixnooo : supposedly supported
[11:57] <SmokingBlood> have some problems getting sound working on an toshiba laptop (hda intel sndcard)
[11:57] <SmokingBlood> anybody one help?
[11:57] <nixnooo> cua0 i beleive its sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-radeon
[11:58] <Pelo> !sound | SmokingBlood  start here
[11:58] <ubotu> SmokingBlood  start here: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:58] <nixnooo> cua0 then u have to edit xorg.conf and replace "vesa" with "radeon"
[11:58] <SmokingBlood> tried that :)
[11:58] <BossMania> anyone know how can i execute a script automatically when i have a new files / repertories in a repertory ?
[11:58] <cua0> nixnooo : yea, it's already installed and up to date. i need to probe the bus id's
[11:58] <jamie_> The problem them is using ltsp and some people use p2p and others just surf looking for a way just to share available bandwidth.
[11:58] <cua0> nixnooo : since i have 2 radeon cards in this machine i think it's trying to run on the wrong card
[11:58] <Flannel> BossMania: what are you trying to do?
[11:58] <Pelo> SmokingBlood,  if no one else has a sugestion for you try looking it up in the forum
[11:59] <Mookie> jamie_: I'm not sure what you mean by "ltsp", but for approximately $50 or you can get a router at your local computer store that would connect directly to your modem, then the computers would hook to it.
[11:59] <Mookie> jamie_: It would require some setup, though.
[11:59] <SmokingBlood> Pelo: tried getting my sound working in edgy
[11:59] <BossMania> i want to apply chmod for my new files in my ftp
[11:59] <BossMania> Flannel
[11:59] <BossMania> ...
[11:59] <SmokingBlood> biut still have the same problem in feisty
[11:59] <AFaith> hello from romania!
[11:59] <nixnooo> cua0 oh, 2 cards is beyond my experience.  but i think xorg.conf will have an entry for each card and the driver its supposed to be using just change "vesa" to "radeon" for both
[12:00] <AFaith> nice job with feisty
[12:00] <AFaith> really a great distribution!
[12:00] <Flannel> BossMania: usually the ftpd has a umask that'll accomplish the same thing (start them with a set of perms)
[12:00] <Pelo> SmokingBlood, I can't realy help beyond pointing you to resources,  I've never had a sound problem myself and I have no idea how to go about solving one
[12:00] <Mookie> jamie_: I see what you mean. If you want users using p2p apps, then there is usually no problem as long as they can accept incoming connections on different ports.
[12:00] <cua0> nixnooo : i don;'t think it detected the proper card, since there is an onboard card and a pcie card, it's detecting the onboard but it's not being used so when i startx it says no screens found
[12:00] <BossMania> Flannel yes... but i have a probleme with that ..
[12:00] <Mookie> jamie_: You would need to port forward each user some dedicated ports for him to use for his incoming connections.