=== odat [n=ronnie@c-71-207-39-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:26] what is the terminal command to discover your internal ip address from your router? [12:27] ifconfig $1 | awk '/inet addr/ {printf "%s\n", substr($2,6)}' | grep -v ^127 (something like that) [12:32] h3sp4wn, ok it seems just to be libdvdcss [12:32] get it from /msg ubotu seveas [12:33] cause I just got another dvd to use xdvdshrink and it worked I guess madagascar has to hard an encyption === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu [12:37] check it.. in xfce.. somethin is weird with xscreensaver.. on boot i get this little 1 inch square that looks barcodelike.. distortion.. but if i wait for the screensaver to come on and i hit a key it disappears.. also i can make it disappear by going into suspend and then waking it up [12:37] i've disabled the screensaver and powersave mode and restarted.. but i still get it.. xscreensaver is still running in processes too. === Cinnander [n=cinn@cpc1-cdif4-0-0-cust304.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === nopcode [n=nopcode@sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de] has joined #xubuntu [12:52] hey [12:52] after installing the nvidia driver using envy, i'm getting "cannot find -lGL" when linking opengl programs [12:52] actually i dont have libGL.so in /usr/lib [12:52] only libGL.so.1 [12:52] and linking that to libGL.so helps but that link is gone after rebooting [12:53] any hints? === Riot777 [n=riot777@aasy250.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #xubuntu [01:05] hi [01:06] anybody know how to hide mounted hard disk icon on xfce desktop ? [01:06] dunno why xubuntu mounted a partition on my desktop it's not removable media === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === heavywolf [n=heavywol@adsl-065-012-215-210.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu === hitmanWilly [n=hitmanWi@66-190-176-18.static.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:47] pRrp, I get that also. It shows when restoring from hibernation, right? === BrendanM [n=mccollam@hor-gold95.hor.ucl.ac.uk] has joined #xubuntu === T` [i=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu [01:49] frem; nah it shows when i boot up sometimes [01:49] and wont go away until i suspend then wake it up.. [01:49] huh [01:49] It's centered around the mouse pointer for me, there's also some green lines at the top of the screen. I believe it's part of whatever the graphics card has buffered, if that makes any sense. Like, if I've booted Windows recently, I can sometimes make out a messed up version of the windows boot screen. [01:50] weird [01:50] what kind of graphics card is it? [01:50] But for me, it only shows for a few seconds when I restore from hibernation. I've got an on-board ATI Xpress 200m. [01:50] ah. well this is a square box in the top left corner.. it has something to do with xscreensaver.. also i think i need to add some options to my xorg.conf to let my ati adapter work better. this is an old laptop. im sure there's something i can do [01:51] ati? ha-ha! [01:51] Are you using the ati proprietary drivers or the free drivers? === aro [n=justin@108-27.187-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === BrendanM [n=mccollam@hor-gold95.hor.ucl.ac.uk] has left #xubuntu [] === aro [n=aro@108-27.187-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@24-148-32-14.nwb-bsr1.chi-nwb.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === aro [n=aro@108-27.187-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === aro [n=aro@108-27.187-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:29] how do I change Amules port 4665 to another port maybe in the 55000 + range [03:30] Extended server requests UDP port === Rynux91 [n=ryan@cpe-75-179-133-65.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:45] I just keep coming back to confuse somebody... [03:46] weird problem... === spasticteapot [n=spastict@66-188-130-15.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:46] I recently had a system crash, and I'm getting filesystem errors on startup. [03:46] everytime I try to run terminal, the x desktop enviroment ethier stops, or crashes... [03:47] Where the fnord can I find the logfile, and could someone look over it if I pastedump it somewhere? === chatnoir [n=chatnoir@216.144.113.23] has joined #xubuntu [03:47] then if I'm not running anything...it'll simply ask me to re-login....and if I'm running something...it simply stops working... [03:48] hello! [03:49] Hello. [03:49] Just have two minor issues... [03:49] chatnoir: Can you tell me where my boot logfile is? [03:50] ??? [03:50] boot logfile? [03:51] Er, the one that records all the crazy text that comes up on my screen when I boot. [03:52] in /boot ? [03:53] I mean in a file located in it... [03:53] Dunno. [03:55] can somebody tell me how to setup my trackpoint device? I'm on Xubuntu Feisty, IBM Thinkpad X21 [03:56] ...I just wanna make it more sensitive === chatnoir [n=chatnoir@216.144.113.23] has left #xubuntu ["Quitte"] === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === VR_ [n=NULL@653237hfc209.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === as7943 [n=tony@pool-71-252-147-79.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === M_42 [n=chatzill@h247.35.28.71.ip.alltel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:08] does anyone know how to get your backlight on your lcd to turn off === j1mmc [n=jim@24-148-32-14.nwb-bsr1.chi-nwb.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:18] anyone know how to force a lcd monitor to turn its backlight off? === deniz_ogut [n=hazerfen@88.232.83.225] has joined #xubuntu === Tido [n=tido@c-24-30-19-33.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:28] Hi Dear Friends! xubuntu 7.04 Feisty. I'm trying to burn a ISO image but Xfburn is totally silent. I mean I can get to the dialog windowses, but it doesn't burn. What to do? [04:34] I use k3b 1.01 (getdeb.net) [04:34] to burn cds even though its kde [04:34] nero linux is good also but its not free [04:42] M_42: I know about k3b and its a good tool. But I wonder why the default writer of xubuntu is not writing. I made a search and in forums there's discussions that during Feisty era iso burning spec of Xfburn was broken. But it is unbelivable if it is still reamlaining broken in Feisty. I don't want to believe this and I'm trying to learn what I am doing wrong. Otherwise, it means that there's another huge problem. The question is simple: Is there anybo [04:43] I could never get it to work [04:43] so I went k3b [04:43] :C [04:45] *during feisty era= during edgy era. [04:45] M_42: Thank you for answering. [04:46] np nerolinux is also very good [04:46] I think there are serials up on mininova [04:47] it doesn't use kde-libs [04:47] I wish I could figure out how to force my lcd to turn off [04:47] the backlight stays on [04:47] lol [04:48] M_42: Thanks but now for me the problem is not to find a burning too. There's something weird related with xubuntu as an OS. If xfburn was not working (at least was not working well) how can it be put in the next release, Feisty, as the same. Is it a joke? [04:49] i dunno ive seen lots of broken packages [04:50] gaim 1.5 stopped working with msn and they never fixed it till the next version of ubuntu came out [04:50] OOo had a nasty font problem which was fixed in 2.1 but they never updated [04:50] lots of little annoying things [04:50] like that [04:51] Yes the amazing one being the default terminal emulator. In your opinion, what is to be done? Do we waste our energy by dealing with xubuntu? [04:51] deniz_ogut: What's your problem again? [04:51] Is the best to give our efforts to Ubuntu? [04:51] I've NEVER had any trouble with Xubuntu. [04:51] It has a wacky implementation of XFCE to make it more Gnome-like. [04:52] We were discussing about why I didn't manage to write an ISO image to a CD via xfburn. [04:52] Go over to #XFCE for advanced help - they're the guys to ask when you have something like a faulty CD burning problem. [04:52] This is not XFCE guys problem. [04:53] isn't xubuntu responsible if some tool they put in the package isn't working? [04:53] Then I will install an Ubuntu server and xfce on it. [04:53] Why there's a xubuntu then? [04:54] deniz_ogut: For people who need a lighter distro than Ubuntu? [04:54] Personally, I think Ubuntu's only saving grace is ease of use - I'm thinking of moving to Arch, but I'd miss Sudo. [04:54] Dear frield, I know this need and I USE xubuntu as well. [04:54] and I want xubuntu be good, better etc. [04:54] Fair 'nuff. [04:55] Personally, I agree. [04:55] Arch linux, aside from being a bit trickier to use, seems to be vastly superior. [04:55] But if that iso burning tool was not working during the previous release and if it is still not working, there's a serious..... I mean its wrong. [04:55] Yep. [04:55] I don't even HAVE an internal optical drive. [04:56] Here for many such issues people keep saying: Install another tool or tell to the upstream. [04:56] This is not acceptable. [04:56] xubuntu as an OS should work under its own integrity. [04:56] What emlse can I say? === j1mmc [n=jim@24-148-32-14.nwb-bsr1.chi-nwb.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:57] spasticteapot: Ok you don't have an optical drive. But if optical drives are much more for xubuntu then we will say that we won't give service for them. If we do, and if we put a device for it, we expect it to work. [05:00] spasticteapot: This is the one of several unbelivable things I'm discovering in xubuntu. First one was terminal emulator is causing x to crash. And what said is: This is an upstream issue and install another tool. These are not serious manners. [05:01] hmm [05:01] deniz_ogut, i dont have that prob [05:01] deniz_ogut: I know what you mean - everyone is focusing on Gnomebuntu. [05:01] Personally, I'm wondering if Xubuntu should be replaced with an Arch-based distro. [05:02] I'm installing it on my laptop this weekend. [05:02] In a new partition. of course. [05:02] i haven't tried the gnome based ubuntu.. is it still dog slow as it used to be? [05:02] For many architectures there is. Forums and Launcpad bugzilla is full of them. Anyway. There may be bugs, some of them may be serious as well but we can't say "install something else" or "this is upstream related". User, in the last resolution, demands something usable. [05:03] Why did I change from Ubuntu to xubuntu then, if I will install all their tools? [05:03] deniz_ogut, what exactly is your issue? [05:04] I beileve that I am doing something wrong, to write iso image via xfburn. [05:04] But it seems that it is the case for everybody. [05:04] And not in feisty but in edgy as well. [05:04] i dont like xfburn [05:04] and I don't want to believe this. [05:04] i use gnomebaker [05:05] and I don't want to install k3b. [05:05] This is wnat i ask. [05:05] deniz_ogut, what the heck are you freaking out about [05:05] just shut up and use what works best for you.. this is linux.. free software [05:05] Dear T. Problem is not liking xfburn or not liking it. [05:05] i install software which suits my needs all the time [05:05] i use xmms, [05:05] What i ask is: is xfburn work for someone or not? [05:06] it is that simple. [05:06] mplayer, etc. [05:06] i dont like xfmedia.. it sucks.. so what [05:06] but i'm saying: if it doesn't work, then use what works [05:06] there is so much choice.. and its beautiful [05:06] you have to be very glad [05:06] not like windows [05:06] if the default tool is not working at all, there's a distro problem. [05:07] yea.. but unfortunately tools take time to mature [05:07] i am talking about the default one. and not about chances. it is not working. [05:07] just like anything else in life [05:07] i highly recommend you use something else other than xfburn [05:07] you are right. [05:07] i like xubuntu cuz its FFAAAASST [05:07] i dont care about its tools [05:07] i instlal my own.. thunderbird, firefox, xmms, mplayer, etc.. [05:08] i use lightweight stuff.. [05:08] i agree it sucks xfmedia never works [05:08] atleast for me it always hangs up [05:08] but then i just dont care.. cuz i know a software which works awesome.. mplayer [05:08] dear T I have a 128 ram and I like xubuntu for being fast as well. But this does not mean that we won't dibcuss the whole scene. [05:09] You need more RAM. [05:09] T': If I wanted to install all my own tools, I'd bloody well use Debian. [05:09] yea i see what you mean.. there is a real problem here with not making these tools better [05:09] but i think they just need time [05:09] spasticteapot, then please do? [05:10] i only install _a few_ of my own tools [05:10] Rolemaster - E Shit Critical Tables, excerpted from Companion XVIII: Shit [05:10] has happened, blinding the poor unfortunant permenantly, breaking both [05:10] their arms, and stunning them for 27 rounds. They expire in a miserable [05:10] heap 6 rounds later. Pity, that. [05:10] :-) If I have more ram I won't use xubuntu! There are milions of 128 ram machines around the world and GNU/Linux is capable to operate them well. [05:10] Ack, wrong chatroom. [05:10] T': I like Ubuntu because it's easy to use. [05:10] I don't want to install my own tools. [05:11] I want to install, and have everything work. [05:11] I thought that was the whole point of Ubuntu. [05:11] You are right and what i am trying to say is this. [05:12] spasticteapot, perhaps.. xubuntu is an offshoot.. has advantages/disadvantages [05:12] "linux for human beings". Not only for geeks. [05:12] spasticteapot, give them some time dude.. they are all doing us free service.. [05:12] Yes. But they are sucking at it. [05:12] i know.. i'm just pissed you guys dont appriaciate their work [05:12] I'm not going to bloody donate any money 'till they fix xubuntu. [05:12] oh thats fine [05:12] you should state that to them [05:12] I'm not blaming the developers, I'm trying to contribute for the things to be better. [05:13] but the best way to encourage them is to thank them [05:13] T': As someone who has worked as a sysadmin for free - donating my own time - I can say : "THBBT!" [05:13] cuz they aren't obviously doing it for the money [05:13] And I'll report this xfburn issue as well. [05:13] It's not done 'till it all works. [05:13] Gnome is, IMO, a worse choice than XFCE. Much more bloaty. [05:13] spasticteapot, have you used ubuntu lately? [05:13] and for the moment, yes I'll install some other tool, solve my personal problem but this doesn't mean that the main problem is solved. [05:14] spasticteapot, just wondering how it compares to xubuntu on a fast machine.. like an intel core duo.. [05:14] T': Gnomebuntu, no. [05:14] Up to feisty, I was using Ubuntu. [05:14] T': I don't have a C2D. I have a 1ghz single-core Pentium M. [05:14] During Edgy era I used Ubuntu. [05:14] Hence Xubuntu. [05:14] ah oko [05:14] deniz_ogut, how is it compared to xuubnut speed wise? [05:14] for 1 month I'm using xubuntu. [05:15] deniz_ogut, i am buying a new comp.. 2GB/C2D e6600, etc.. [05:15] xubuntu is obviously much more speedy. [05:15] because of desktops. [05:15] even on a fast comp? [05:15] what? [05:15] Ubuntu= gnome xubuntu= xfce [05:15] I don't know the fast computers. [05:16] mine is a low end one and ubuntu was slow. [05:16] xubuntu is for me. [05:16] But I belive that even in a fast pc, xubuntu will run faster than Ubuntu. [05:17] deniz_ogut: yes, xubuntu is a little more snappy, even on a fast pc. [05:17] but I believe that, even if I have a fast computer I may prefer xubuntu. because i like its simplicity. [05:18] j1mmc, ohok [05:18] really interesting conversation guys, im about to start using xubuntu on an old pc [05:18] i'm assuming kubuntu is just slower than ubuntu/xubuntu? [05:18] heavywolf: If you have an old computer, xubuntu is THE best. [05:19] yeah, that what a friend told me, im going to try it out [05:19] yes kubuntu (kde) is the "slowest" one. [05:19] but i have a question [05:19] can you use beryl on xubuntu? [05:19] But much more "eye candy". [05:19] kubuntu and ubuntu are slower than xubuntu, but you need to weigh features, too. xubuntu isn't quite as feature rich as kubuntu or ubuntu [05:19] heavywolf: yes, you can use beryl on xubuntu [05:19] perfect [05:20] that's what i want [05:20] As far as I know you can use beryl on xubuntu. but x-ubuntu can handle beryl doesn't mean it can handle on all machines I belive. [05:20] thats reasonable [05:20] i used to use ubuntu before [05:20] when it was the 5.04 version [05:21] You can install beryl on xubuntu on an 1 gb ram machine; it is sometheng, 128 ram machine, it is somletnhirg else. [05:21] now im trying to upgrade everything till 7 [05:21] i just havent use it in a while hehe === skyde [n=sdas@c66.110.170-29.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:23] i would like a stric "python script.py" to start a boot time [05:23] how i do that [05:24] T` what version of xubuntu do you use? === hitmanWilly [n=hitmanWi@66-190-176-18.static.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === j1mmc is now known as j1mc|akf === j1mc|akf is now known as j1mc|afk === VR_ [n=NULL@653237hfc209.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] === crdlb [n=crdlb@pool-71-241-37-134.nrflva.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:44] 7.04 === deniz_ogut [n=hazerfen@88.232.83.225] has left #xubuntu [] [06:33] 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 [06:33] :) === sc0tt [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@24-148-32-14.nwb-bsr1.chi-nwb.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=ryan@64-91-13-103.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:11] !info hal [07:11] hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.8.1-4ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 543 kB, installed size 1512 kB [07:12] theres a update for hal just so you know, and you need to use dist-upgrade or hal is kepted back === rokra [n=christor@ANancy-256-1-157-25.w90-33.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === as7943 [n=tony@pool-71-252-147-79.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu [] === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === czer323 [n=czer323@cpe-71-66-230-94.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === deniz_ogut [n=hazerfen@88.232.83.225] has joined #xubuntu [07:53] Hi dear friends. Reminding that I am a relatively new bug reporter triager. Questions: 1- If a bug is reported for a previous release, and if I have the same of it in the current one, should I report a new bug or add a comment to the existing one? If there was an old similar report and if it is rejected by someone who is supposed to know what he is doing but if I believe that the bug (still) exists, what should I do? The real situation is for Bug #830 === nopcode [n=nopcode@sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de] has left #xubuntu [] [07:54] TheSheep: You please have a look at my question above. I know that you understand me. [07:56] Sorry sorry. Wrong channel. I am going to ubuntu-bugs. sorry. === deniz_ogut [n=hazerfen@88.232.83.225] has left #xubuntu [] === grazie [n=grazie@host86-136-96-72.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-136-96-72.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-136-96-72.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-136-96-72.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host86-136-96-72.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === xjkx [n=vulto@201008254180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #xubuntu [08:38] dont care for languages, then i didnt download the language CD, somethings here is in english but i understand english, problem is that i cant see accent keys, its probably the charset, how do i change system's charset? its probably using UTF-8 and i need iso8859-1 or its using iso and i need utf-8, unsure [08:38] my echo $lang has; [08:38] pt_BR.UTF-8 === grazie [n=grazie@host86-136-96-72.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === cjae [n=cjae@142-165-37-205.estv.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #xubuntu [09:52] how do I remove entries from the applications menu (ones installed by wine) the edit menu is so strange [09:53] is there just a normal config file I can edit like with nano or something? [09:56] cause the xfce4-menu editor only has like three of the listed applications in it actually it does list them at all it lists SETTINGS,SETTINGS MANAGER and About XFCE [09:56] hello === aussieman [n=bobo@eu85-85-40-141.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #xubuntu [09:58] what can i use to comose html gu style as i cant get moz-composer === grazie [n=grazie@host86-136-96-72.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:59] cjae: ~/.cache/xfce4/desktop on of the files in there [10:00] hyper_ch, thanks I 'll try and check back === unikon [n=unikon@unaffiliated/unikon] has joined #xubuntu [10:13] hyper_ch, this was under menu-cache--home-cjae-.config-xfce4-desktop-menu.xml it seems to be the only one that has the other entry may I just delete were it starts at [10:14] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20462/ [10:17] hello === bleda [n=Turk@unaffiliated/bleda] has joined #xubuntu [10:19] hyper_ch, did you die on me?? [10:23] cjae: maybe but probably just away from the keyboard. What's the problem? (Incidently I've got a very unreliable connection at the moment) [10:24] grazie, thanks I ma trying to get rid of the applications menu created by wine which I purged [10:25] cjae: do you know where in the menu? [10:25] grazie, and I asked if there was something else I could use to edit the menu besides the xfce4 menu editor [10:26] and he told me to go to ~/.cache/xfce4/desktop and look in those files [10:26] cjae: the xfce menu editor can change anything that's not part of the system menu [10:26] how [10:26] cjae: the system menu is controlled by .desktop files in /usr/share/applications [10:27] cjae: is the wine entry in the system menu? [10:27] I only have three entries in menu editor and none of them are applications [10:27] no right above it [10:28] in the menu editor I only have settings, settings manager and about xfce [10:28] and some separators === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [10:29] cjae: then the menu entries must be part of the system menu which is controlled as described above ^^ [10:30] it is NOT part of the system menu [10:31] oh I see sorry hang on [10:31] cjae: you could 'grep /usr/share/applications/*.desktop' to find the right .desktop file [10:32] see he told me to look in ~/.cache/xfce4/desktop [10:32] but would this not just be cache [10:32] cache is cache === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [10:33] or to be accurate .cache is cache [10:35] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20464/ [10:35] grazie, [10:36] grazie, so deleting the cache would not be useful?? [10:37] it won't remove the wine menu entries no [10:38] I purged wine why did it leave this [10:38] sort of like winblows add/remove leaving folders [10:39] grazie, did you get the pastebin?? [10:39] !install [10:39] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate [10:40] due to the way it's been packaged (sorry just lost connection again) [10:40] grazie, did you get my pastebin?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20464/ === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:43] cjae: I can see it now. Is "other" the menu entry? [10:44] grazie, yes [10:45] cjae: what menu items are there in "other" [10:46] help. isobuster, order now, uninstall now [10:47] cjae: which one(s) do you want to remove? [10:47] all including other [10:48] cjae: yes, but each of those menu entries will have a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications. You should search for "isobuster", etc... [10:50] cjae: also case is important. use "grep -i" to ignore case [10:58] grazie, why cant i find mozilla composer? [10:59] grazie, I am lost I tried grep -i isobuster /usr/share [10:59] aussieman: I don't know. Why can't you find mozilla composer? :) === grazie waits for punch line [10:59] dunno [11:00] its not in the repos [11:00] don't know the app [11:00] and i wnat a simple html composer [11:00] !info composer [11:00] Package composer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [11:00] thats right ubotu so what can i use? [11:01] aussieman: is not part of the mozilla suite? [11:01] !info mozilla [11:01] Package mozilla does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [11:01] wel cant see it in the apt cache [11:01] very good ubotu [11:01] is he a bot! stupid me [11:02] html composer? [11:02] and I tried just making my way there by the file manager and the is no /usr/share/applications/.desktop folder === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5FD33.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:02] !info thunderbird [11:02] cjae: no....grep -i isobuster /usr/share/applications/*.desktop [11:03] Package thunderbird does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [11:03] that can't be right [11:03] !info mozilla-thunderbird [11:03] !info html === bleda [n=Turk@unaffiliated/bleda] has joined #xubuntu [11:03] mozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.10-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 10635 kB, installed size 29700 kB [11:03] Package html does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [11:03] !info html [11:03] thunderbird exists [11:04] !info mozilla-composer [11:04] Package mozilla-composer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [11:04] but who knows a simple esay html editor like composer on mozilla? [11:04] grazie, nothing [11:04] see [11:04] ubotu, knows a lot [11:04] Sorry, I don't know anything about knows a lot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [11:05] ubotu, is very polite [11:05] Sorry, I don't know anything about is very polite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [11:05] aussieman, you just want an email editor [11:06] !info mozilla-suite [11:06] Package mozilla-suite does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [11:06] no i want to make web pages [11:06] without stuffing around with too much html detail [11:06] aussieman: found this [11:06] http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/ [11:06] ahh I thought I wasn't right [11:06] !info mozilla-cascades [11:07] Package mozilla-cascades does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [11:08] aussieman: that package is in edgy but not feisty. don't know why [11:08] !info edgy mozilla-composer [11:08] Package edgy does not exist in feisty [11:08] ok [11:08] !info mozilla-composer edgy [11:08] yeh [11:09] Package mozilla-composer does not exist in edgy [11:09] lol [11:09] too smart bot [11:09] smrt [11:09] aussieman: use http://packages.ubuntu.com to search [11:10] cjae: try "grep -i wine /usr/share/applications/*.desktop" [11:10] anyway. grazie after an updatedb locate only finds the isobuster installer in my /home [11:11] grazie, nothing [11:11] cjae: yeah you've removed the app, but the menu details are still there [11:11] cjae: yes? [11:11] yes [11:11] the grep wine showed nothing [11:12] cjae: do "ls /usr/share/applications/*.desktop" and pastebin the output [11:12] is it just in cache and a complete reboot would rid it?? [11:13] y si quieres un manual de HTML aqui hay uno muy bueno: http://desarrolloweb.com/html/ [11:13] O tambien el mozilla composer... me parece que es... [11:13] Code: [11:13] sudo aptitude install mozilla-browser === aboyousif [n=aboyousi@196.20.45.101] has joined #xubuntu [11:13] but i still cant find it --- seesm that is the name === gabkdlly [n=gabriel@dslb-088-073-033-162.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #xubuntu === gabkdlly [n=gabriel@dslb-088-073-033-162.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #xubuntu [] [11:13] cjae: a reboot may clear the menu. Best just delete ~/.cache [11:15] ahaha its now known as seamonkey http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ [11:15] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20465/ [11:15] but we dont have it [11:15] grazie, [11:16] sh*t I was trying to remember that name [11:17] !info seamonkey [11:17] Package seamonkey does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [11:17] aussieman: I'm pretty sure that composer is part of mozilla (the suite), which is avaible on edgy but dropped from feisty [11:17] SeaMonkey 1.1.1 [11:17] SeaMonkey 1.1.1 [11:17] The next generation of the all-in-one internet application suite [11:18] i couldnt find it in edgy on the pacakeges site [11:18] but i gonna try seammonkey from the mozilla site [11:18] lets see [11:18] thanks grazie! grazie gracias grazie [11:19] grazie, did you get the pastebin [11:20] cjae: yes, nothing obvious. Did you trying deleting ~/.cache [11:20] no I was waiting for a response [11:20] try deleting* :) [11:20] I will === deniz_ogut [n=hazerfen@88.232.83.225] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === cjae [n=cjae@142-165-37-205.estv.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@c-134-232-171.f.dsl.de.ignite.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:28] grazie, didn't work [11:29] cjae: ok, those menu entries must be hidden somewhere in those .desktop files [11:29] Hi all! xubuntu Feisty. How can I learn the "chipset" of my PC? Any command? And which part of the output will tell me the chipset? [11:30] grazie, but now I have less entries in ~/.cache/xfce/desktop [11:34] grazie, found it [11:35] ~/.local/share/applications/wine/Programs/smartprojects/Isobuster [11:36] and then all the entries under the other === kmindi [n=noname@dslb-088-064-134-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:39] hello [11:39] I am new to linux - (x)ubuntu. [11:39] grazie, should I just delete the wine folder [11:39] I have a question : [11:39] cjae: sorry yes. I forgot about the ~/.local/... [11:39] kmindi: hello. listening [11:40] cjae: sorry yes. I forgot about the ~/.local/... (I just got disconnected again) [11:40] after i login the add/delete new software dialog appears. [11:40] how can i stop it loading every login? [11:40] cjae: if wine is gone yes [11:40] kmindi: Where does it appear? [11:41] as a new window [11:41] grazie, why did they make the menu editor suck so bad [11:42] it's the only thing that really sucks about xfce [11:43]