[11:50] <highvoltage> yay, only 3 more hours to go and then I'll be home
[04:13] <andrea> hello
[04:13] <andrea> I install an ltsp server in edubuntu server 7.10; I create few user with the same name of the hostname of the client. I need to autologin them, can somebody help me? Please
[04:16] <andrea> 7.4 sorry
[04:21] <cliebow_> andrea, eeveryone is travelling today i think
[04:27] <andrea> i leave my email; any help is appreciated
[04:27] <andrea> onbug@interfree.it
[04:27] <andrea> thank you
[06:43] <Novus> What is the appeal of having yet another Ubuntu derivative, which is yet another derivative of Debian, which is yet another Linux distribution?
[06:44] <Novus> What purpose, other than further splitting up scare developer resources?
[06:46] <Amaranth> edubuntu uses the same packages as ubuntu
[06:46] <Amaranth> any improvements in ubuntu show up in edubuntu and vice versa
[06:47] <Amaranth> it's just a different set of packages in the default install for education purposes
[06:49] <Novus> ...
[07:49] <KRomeleoN> howdy
[07:50] <KRomeleoN> my question is, my sister is going to college and we just bought her a laptop. i was gonna put ubuntu on but was thinking edubuntu instead sinche she is a teaching major....is edubuntu different from ubuntu atall besides the included extra appps for education?
[07:50] <KRomeleoN> its gnome?
[08:09] <stgraber> KRomeleoN: there is no difference beside the artwork and the extra educational packages
[08:09] <stgraber> KRomeleoN: yes, it uses gnome
[08:09] <KRomeleoN> is it made more for k-12?
[08:09] <KRomeleoN> or would a college studfent get use fromit/
[08:09] <KRomeleoN> ?
[08:12] <stgraber> KRomeleoN: I didn't really checked what is installed with Feisty, Edgy was more for k-12 but things may have changed (it was planned for Feisty)
[08:12] <KRomeleoN> i cant decide if i should get 64 bit or now
[08:15] <stgraber> 64bit is a source of problem when you are talking about browser plugin (flash especially) or any binary compiled software. If you use a clean install of Ubuntu and aren't going to use Flash (I mean the flash from Adobe, not the free one) or wine or any binary-compiled software, you can get the 64bit version.
[08:15] <KRomeleoN> i wa shocked to see 64 bit linux uses 64 bit ff
[08:15] <stgraber> Otherwise I'd install the 32bit one, even on a 64bit capable computer (what I'm doing just now on a Core2Duo)
[08:16] <KRomeleoN> the laptop is coming with vista preload and is said to get 5.5 hours on a 9 cell battery, will that be increased with edubuntu?
[08:17] <frustratedwithed> When I restart my edubuntu server I do not have any internet connection.  If I sudo ifdown eth1 and then sudo ifup eth1, then it works.  Anyy idease how to make it permanent?
[08:17] <stgraber> If the battery can really manage to give that with Vista while doing something else than looking at a blank screen, yes it should be better with Edubuntu
[08:19] <stgraber> happywithed: Is that Dapper, Edgy or Feisty ?
[08:19] <happywithed> Feisty
[08:19] <happywithed> Brand new install
[08:19] <stgraber> ok, did you change anything in the network config (like setting a static IP) ?
[08:20] <happywithed> I changed the interfaces, so that I could get my clients to start on PXE.
[08:20] <happywithed> I have eth0 on 192.168.1.254 and eth1 on 192.168.0.254
[08:21] <happywithed> broadcast on 192.168.x.255 and netmask on 255.255.255.0
[08:21] <stgraber> ok, so the networkmanager show something like "manual setting" and doesn't do anything, right ?
[08:21] <happywithed> right
[08:22] <stgraber> ok, so you may want to have a look at the /etc/network/interfaces file
[08:22] <stgraber> you should have something like :
[08:22] <stgraber> auto ethX
[08:22] <stgraber> iface ethX inet static ....
[08:22] <stgraber> your problem may be that you don't have the auto line
[08:23] <cliebow> stgraber:that file is Always wonked out every time you make a change huh
[08:23] <cliebow> i just now fixed mine...again
[08:23] <happywithed> I have auto for eth1, eth0 and lo
[08:24] <happywithed> Is there a specific order they have to be at?
[08:24] <happywithed> My auto eth0 is the last line
[08:25] <stgraber> not that I know
[08:25] <stgraber> it usually is :
[08:25] <cliebow> it "shouldnt" matter..
[08:25] <stgraber> auto ethX
[08:25] <stgraber> and then the config
[08:25] <stgraber> then auto ethX+
[08:25] <stgraber> and the other config
[08:25] <stgraber> but like cliebow said, that "shouldn't" matter :)
[08:26] <cliebow> 8~)
[08:26] <happywithed> Weird, that file seems to be fine, but when I boot I dont have any internet unless I ifdown and ifup my eth1
[08:27] <happywithed> any other ideas?
[08:28] <cliebow> can you watch the logs on server and see if a request is made?
[08:28] <happywithed> hold on
[08:28] <cliebow> or do you have one of those evil empire dhcp servers 8~)
[08:29] <cliebow> just wondering when dhcpcd runs..
[08:29] <happywithed> I don't have a Windows DHCP, if that's what you mean.  I just have a Lynksys router with DHCP, though.
[08:30] <happywithed> Where is the syslog file?  it is past 3am in Japan, and I can't think straight...
[08:31] <cliebow> isnt it /var/log/syslog...or messages..
[08:32] <cliebow> but i dont think yu will see boot that way...errr maybe..
[08:33] <cliebow> wireshark with a hub?
[08:35] <happywithed> I don't see any relevant errors in syslog
[08:36] <happywithed> I guess, I'll leave it along for now.  I need to get some sleep before the students come to class in a few hours...
[08:36] <happywithed> thanks for the help anyway...
[08:36] <cliebow> good luck..sleep tight..
[08:36] <happywithed> signing out...
[11:55] <pygi> hi folks
[11:57] <pygi> highvoltage!