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pochuSo it seems gentoo isn't registered as distro12:58
pochuIs it possible to register it so I can link to a gentoo bug report?12:58
pochuI don't think I'm the best person to do it, maybe a LP admin :)12:58
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pochuSteveA: ^01:13
gnomefreakis there an issue with LP mail?01:15
gnomefreakive gotten maybe 100 (first time checked in 2 days) they say "This is the Postfix program at host baal.visi.com."01:18
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gnomefreakit seems to be the user as i look into it more01:19
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bluefoxicyquick question, launchpad ever actually going open source?02:53
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DarkMageZhi, there's an issue with bug #74252. some mail server keeps on replying to it saying message is undeliverable. causing a loop. (luckily launchpad isn't fast @ sending the new "comment" back)03:59
ubotuLaunchpad bug 74252 in firefox "[EDGY]  firefox crashed [@gtk_style_realize]  [@IA__gtk_style_attach]  (dup-of: 72018)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74252 - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)03:59
ubotuLaunchpad bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 - Assigned to Alexander Sack (asac)03:59
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thumperbluefoxicy: some day05:31
bluefoxicythumper:  within my lifetime?05:31
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DarkMageZcan someone please check out the spam on bug #7425207:23
ubotuLaunchpad bug 74252 in firefox "[EDGY]  firefox crashed [@gtk_style_realize]  [@IA__gtk_style_attach]  (dup-of: 72018)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74252 - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)07:23
ubotuLaunchpad bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 - Assigned to Alexander Sack (asac)07:23
crimsunDarkMageZ: it's the weekend.  Please be patient.07:31
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thumperbluefoxicy: depends, how close to death are you?08:05
bluefoxicythumper:  i'm 21 years away from birth; I don't know how close to death I am, from a quantum physics point of view it hasn't been proven that I can actually die.08:13
DarkMageZit's a small matter of being sent 140+ emails to each subscriber and the number is getting higher...08:25
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ubotuLaunchpad bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 - Assigned to Alexander Sack (asac)09:04
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ssamBug #74252 has gone mad, endless auto replies09:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 74252 in firefox "[EDGY]  firefox crashed [@gtk_style_realize]  [@IA__gtk_style_attach]  (dup-of: 72018)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74252 - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)09:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 - Assigned to Alexander Sack (asac)09:50
DarkMageZyeah, isn't it great?09:51
ssamis there noone around with magical launchpad powers?09:52
DarkMageZthumper, can you stop the crap which is happening with bug 74252? i'm counting 185+ spam emails to each subscriber of it's master bug.09:53
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sitsHelp! My inbox is being crushed by launchpad bug mail...10:12
Webspotsame10:12
sitshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/7425210:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 74252 in firefox "[EDGY]  firefox crashed [@gtk_style_realize]  [@IA__gtk_style_attach] " [Undecided,Needs info]   - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)10:12
WebspotI was about to say10:12
sitsI've unduped the bug to try and reduce to collateral damage10:12
Webspotgood10:12
sitsI can't find the username of email address that has disappeared10:13
sitsI'm also about to file a bug on this problem too10:13
sitshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/11438410:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 114384 in malone "Dead email accounts cause launchpad to mailbomb and crush subscriber inboxes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  10:17
elmoI've redirected mail to that bug temporarily, which should solve the immediately problem10:20
elmounfortunately I have to get on a plane now, so I can't do anything more10:20
sitselmo: thank you10:20
DarkMageZif launchpad was quicker at sending emails out then this would be a much more crippling issue. over the last 12 hours it has only managed to cause 190+ trash emails to all subscribers of 72018.10:21
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ubotuNew bug: #114384 in malone "Dead email accounts cause launchpad to mailbomb and crush subscriber inboxes" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11438410:26
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sitsDarkMageZ: thanks for the confirm10:27
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DarkMageZsits, no problem. i've been trying to bring the issue to their attention for over 3 hours10:34
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sitswhy did you resubscribe it to 72018?10:36
DarkMageZreduplicate it to? because once this is all over. it's likely that people will forget to redupe it10:37
sitsok10:38
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sitsit's overlong, unfinished and unfocused at the moment but it might be useful as an "outsider" view10:44
DarkMageZi can just imagine how shitty all those subscribers are going to be10:45
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sitsDarkMageZ: I'm trying not to think about it10:50
sitsDarkMageZ: 72018 was a firestorm of "why am I getting the email" grief as it was10:51
FujitsuIt's not really LP's fault, but stuff could have been done to prevent it.10:51
sitss/the/this10:51
DarkMageZlaunchpad did what it was coded to do10:51
sitsFujitsu: Hindsight is a wonderful thing10:53
Fujitsusits: This isn't the first time it has happened.10:53
sitsFujitsu: now that I didn't know10:53
FujitsuProbably the worst instance of it, though.10:53
sitsI think if bugs are getting over 20 subscribers they need special handling to reduce the fallout of "accidents"10:54
DarkMageZthere are 2 proper ways on handling this. first would be to implement abnormality detection. so if something other than the norm is happening, then an email is sent to the admins to sort.10:55
DarkMageZsecond would to be to set some sort of limiting on the comments from an individual10:55
sitswhat's abnormal though10:55
sits?10:55
FujitsuHaving more people than just admins being able to unsubscribe people might be useful. Or having an admin around all the time.10:55
sitsFujitsu: by the time an admin knows it might be too late10:56
DarkMageZthe abnormal part of this was the amount of comments by one user, one after the other :P10:56
sitsI'm only here because someone was complaining within the bug itself10:56
FujitsuHm....... Shouldn't the NDR be coming from postmaster@somedomain, so not from a registered address?10:57
DarkMageZi tried to alert the people in #ubuntu-bugs about 6 hours ago.10:57
FujitsuDarkMageZ: They can't do anything.10:57
DarkMageZi forgot about this channel10:57
sitsI wouldn't have known where to go10:57
DarkMageZthey can't do anything, but they know where to point & poke10:57
FujitsuOnly the LP admins can control this.10:58
FujitsuWell, possibly.10:58
sitsabout the best I would have done was unduping that bug and then a new malone bug would have been filed10:58
FujitsuEverybody is leaving UDS at the moment, so it's a particularly bad time.10:58
sitsUDS?10:58
DarkMageZubuntu developers summit10:58
sitsok10:58
DarkMageZthe problem with the internet is stuff can go bad at any time. so like you said before. there should always be someone around to sort stuff out.10:59
FujitsuGiving drivers of a project that ability to unsubscribe someone might be nice.11:00
sitshmm11:00
sitsanyone can subscribe anyone else11:00
sitsbut unsubscribing is not so liberal11:00
FujitsuBut those NDRs should never have got to the bug, unless the mailserver is really badly configured.11:00
Fujitsupostmaster@somedomain shouldn't be associated with a LP account, so Malone shouldn't accept the email.11:01
sitswell I thought bounces were distinct from regular mail11:01
sitsFujitsu: I see what you mean11:01
FujitsuThey are normal messages.11:02
sitswhat about the holiday mail bounces though?11:02
FujitsuThose are always going to happen, because they are indistinguishable from normal emails.11:02
sitsthe question is - can you stop a loop from happening due to poorly configured servers?11:03
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ubotuNew bug: #114394 in launchpad "the "Show all teams" link opens "all projects" instead of all the teams" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11439411:45
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ubotuNew bug: #114414 in launchpad "The latest questions asked shoud only show questions in preferred languages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11441402:35
ubotuNew bug: #114420 in launchpad "Unable to find bug report even when the path is given" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11442003:26
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DoctorOwlDoes anyone still think Launchpad should be free and open source?04:58
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DoctorOwlDoes anyone here help create Launchpad?05:18
DoctorOwlOk let me try another tack, are any big-name projects hosted on Launchpad besides Ubuntu?05:24
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wingo-pbhi all.06:03
wingo-pbanyone know how often launchpad does mirroring of off-site bzr branches?06:03
wingo-pbi have a project that had changes three days ago and the launchpad mirror hasn't updated06:04
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ubotuNew bug: #114453 in malone "Typo on "Add affected source package to bug" page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11445306:20
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Odd_BlokeGuys, I'm getting a lot of "bzr: ERROR: paramiko.SSHException: Server connection dropped:" due to a connection reset by peer.07:45
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Odd_BlokeIs this something at the Launchpad end or something at my end?07:52
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ubotuNew bug: #114474 in launchpad "Bad Link from crash of artsd on feisty fawn" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11447408:15
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GatoLokohi09:06
ondrejhi, is there a way to block certain user to add comments (or I should rather say flames) to bug?  We have certain user who was dismissed from l10n team recently and he is constantly adding non-constructive comments to all kinds of bug reports and unfortunately it's spamming all members of czech translation team.09:07
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thumpermorning11:35
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mptGooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!11:48

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