| TheSheep | you can also hold down shift while deleting in thunar -- then it won't use trash | 12:26 |
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| Jester45 | i like to keep things untill i need somespace | 12:27 |
| TheSheep | rm doesn't use trash -- ever | 12:27 |
| Jester45 | thats why i tried it | 12:28 |
| Scrape | Argh. My mouse is moving way too fast, but the control center settings won't change it... any thoughts? | 12:28 |
| Jester45 | because it wasnt deleting from trash | 12:28 |
| Jester45 | have bettter reflexes | 12:28 |
| Scrape | hehe | 12:28 |
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| Scrape | Moving the mouse less than an inch puts it all the way across the screen. | 12:29 |
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| Jester45 | is there a 125x cd? | 12:29 |
| Jester45 | my burner says it can burn at 125x i would like to see that | 12:30 |
| k8dd | 7200 rpm burner? | 12:30 |
| Jester45 | idk | 12:30 |
| cjae | Jester45, I just broke my xorg.conf and did dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg | 12:31 |
| cjae | Jester45, does this do a fresh reconfigure?? | 12:31 |
| Jester45 | yea | 12:31 |
| cjae | is the wacom thing in everyone?? | 12:31 |
| Jester45 | not mine | 12:32 |
| Jester45 | mines a streamlined 300 lines | 12:32 |
| cjae | I just looked at my xorg and was wondering if ubuntu does the wacom thing by default or if it reloaded a backup | 12:33 |
| Jester45 | it woudnt reload a backup unless you told it to | 12:33 |
| Jester45 | that would defeat the reason to reconfigure | 12:33 |
| cjae | Jester45, thought so does | 12:33 |
| cjae | it must be a default thing | 12:34 |
| cjae | what does -phigh enable | 12:34 |
| cjae | ?? | 12:34 |
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| Jester45 | ever used that | 12:35 |
| cjae | Jester45, and I edited out 15 bit resolution and added some to my tv out and it crashed | 12:36 |
| h3sp4wn | debconf only ask questions of priority high or critical | 12:36 |
| q-t | Hey, when i tried to enable the restricted driver manager to use the driver for mye ATI card, xubuntu wouldnt start up again. A big mistake maybe? | 12:36 |
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| Jester45 | besides apt | 12:36 |
| cjae | Jester45, my question is I don't need to have 15 bit for my monitor in there right?? I could just have 1 4 16 and 24 right? | 12:37 |
| Jester45 | just leave it | 12:37 |
| cjae | ok | 12:37 |
| Jester45 | its not gonna hurt | 12:38 |
| Jester45 | unless you need the diskspace | 12:38 |
| Jester45 | :) | 12:38 |
| cjae | not at all | 12:38 |
| Jester45 | 1 bit wouldnt that be all white? | 12:38 |
| Jester45 | or all black | 12:39 |
| h3sp4wn | I think its easier to cut xorg.conf down | 12:39 |
| cjae | um but can I make it just 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x780 without the other two options like | 12:39 |
| Jester45 | heerrr? | 12:39 |
| zials | isn't that how it is by default? O.o | 12:40 |
| cjae | 640x350 and ones like that | 12:40 |
| h3sp4wn | Ideally I would like it to fit one one screen | 12:40 |
| h3sp4wn | (it is just a few lines more though) | 12:40 |
| cjae | Jester45, I am just trying to narrow what I did wrong | 12:40 |
| cjae | I think tv out can only be 24 bit or was that just an ati thing? | 12:41 |
| cjae | and can I only have one resolution or one bitrate? for tv out?? | 12:42 |
| Jester45 | no it can less | 12:42 |
| cjae | cause I took out the 15 bit section | 12:43 |
| Jester45 | mine goes from 8bit - 24bit and 400x300 - 800x600 | 12:43 |
| Jester45 | well in windows | 12:43 |
| Jester45 | my cards not supported yet | 12:43 |
| cjae | and took out silly resolutions on 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x780 | 12:44 |
| cjae | then I tried to add 800x600 and 640x480 two screen 1 @ 24 bit and boom no more xserver | 12:45 |
| Jester45 | try 640x480 with a smaller bit like 16 | 12:46 |
| cjae | I wanted the other resolutions out for my monitor so when I push ctr +- it only uses 640, 800 and 1024 | 12:46 |
| cjae | I have used 24 1024 on my tv out before just wanted to be able to switch it so I can read it when on the couch | 12:47 |
| cjae | to 800x600 | 12:47 |
| cjae | I think someone said to me that you can only use one though | 12:48 |
| cjae | on tv out | 12:48 |
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| Jester45 | might wanna check with the ati driver docs | 12:48 |
| cjae | I have an nvidia | 12:48 |
| Jester45 | what out put? s-video? | 12:48 |
| Jester45 | or nvidia ones | 12:48 |
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| cjae | s video | 12:49 |
| cjae | you mean dpi | 12:49 |
| NrbelexUbuntu | How does one change the permission options on multiple files using thunar? I can't even do it as root. | 12:49 |
| cjae | I gave up on ati awhile ago | 12:50 |
| Jester45 | i love ati | 12:50 |
| cjae | then tried it again in slackware and should have just punched myself instead | 12:50 |
| cjae | I don't like either both of their new drivers in windows suck major ------ fill your own blank | 12:52 |
| Jester45 | it would be nice if xorg could detect dual cards | 12:52 |
| Jester45 | and ask if you want to enable output on them | 12:52 |
| cjae | they are so big that they substantially slow my p4 512mb box down | 12:53 |
| Jester45 | i like rovclock | 12:54 |
| Jester45 | i took out an old card and rovcloked the core to 600mhz | 12:55 |
| Jester45 | didnt even display anything | 12:55 |
| cjae | I reverted my ati in another box to the old 5.10 catalyst | 12:57 |
| cjae | and the new super idiot control center driver of m$ my makes my tv flicker and sound snap | 12:58 |
| cjae | and takes like 2 minutes to load (well not quite) | 12:59 |
| cjae | of > for | 01:00 |
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| cjae | oh and it should say nvidia | 01:01 |
| cjae | I need some quality sleep | 01:01 |
| q-t | If your xserver doesnt work, how do you boot straight into 'just the terminal' ?? | 01:03 |
| cjae | are you at the end of the boot message | 01:04 |
| cjae | Jester45, that didn't break anything?? | 01:05 |
| q-t | cjae: me? | 01:06 |
| cjae | q-t y | 01:06 |
| cjae | q-t, sorry I mean yes cat pulled kb | 01:07 |
| q-t | ehm not now, but Im doing stuff that always ends up with me not getting into the xserver, it stalls in different places. And I was wondering if someone knew a way to boot without getting into X. I`ve only gotten there by accident before:P | 01:07 |
| q-t | just typing alot ;P | 01:07 |
| q-t | its the damn ati card | 01:08 |
| h3sp4wn | you can stop {k,g,x}dm from running | 01:08 |
| q-t | how do I do that without entering x? | 01:09 |
| h3sp4wn | select recovery mode | 01:09 |
| q-t | so I can configure xorg.conf and so on.... | 01:09 |
| q-t | ok | 01:09 |
| q-t | I dont get prompted for anything, it just boots in | 01:09 |
| h3sp4wn | (that should be without x anyway) | 01:09 |
| h3sp4wn | update-rc.d -f remove gdm | 01:09 |
| q-t | h3sp4wn: what is that? | 01:10 |
| h3sp4wn | man update-rc.d | 01:10 |
| q-t | ok | 01:10 |
| q-t | it will make my linux not boot into xserver untill i type startx....? | 01:12 |
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| h3sp4wn | yes | 01:15 |
| q-t | thnx:) | 01:15 |
| q-t | im reading the man now, im just not very used to all these new commands. Havent used linux that long:) | 01:16 |
| q-t | Havent the first clue what to do when things go wrong:P | 01:16 |
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| h3sp4wn | update-rc.d -f gdm remove (I got it the wrong way round) | 01:20 |
| h3sp4wn | you can put back with - update-rc.d gdm defaults | 01:20 |
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| q-t | ok | 01:29 |
| q-t | Im gonna do that after I re-install xubuntu on my laptop | 01:29 |
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| q-t | ehm, it isnt 'update-rc.d -f xfce remove' or something in xubuntu, instead of gmd?? | 01:32 |
| q-t | afraid I dont understand if gnome and xfce are totally seperate | 01:32 |
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| Pumpernickel | Xubuntu uses gdm. | 01:40 |
| q-t | thought it used xfce | 01:41 |
| Pumpernickel | It does. | 01:41 |
| q-t | okay, so xfce is a function on gnome? | 01:42 |
| q-t | or gdm | 01:42 |
| Pumpernickel | No, xfce is a separate desktop environment. | 01:42 |
| TheSheep | q-t: both gnome and xfce are relly just a set of many applications | 01:42 |
| q-t | i c | 01:43 |
| TheSheep | q-t: xfce doesn't have its own desktop manager, so we use gnome's | 01:43 |
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| TheSheep | q-t: because it doesn't use too much parts from gnome | 01:43 |
| TheSheep | s/we/xubuntu | 01:43 |
| TheSheep | sorry | 01:43 |
| brianw | it only uses gdm really | 01:43 |
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| Pumpernickel | GDM is just the display manager. It manages setting up a graphical prompt from which a user can start a desktop session. | 01:45 |
| cjae | Jester45, the wacom part must be needed | 01:46 |
| TheSheep | cjae: why? | 01:46 |
| cjae | cause it s the only part I deleted again it d\broke the server | 01:46 |
| TheSheep | cjae: aaah, you need to remove the wacom parts form the servelayout section too | 01:47 |
| q-t | So xfce isnt a desktop manager | 01:47 |
| TheSheep | cjae: sorry, forgot about that | 01:47 |
| TheSheep | q-t: display manager | 01:47 |
| q-t | aaaah, i c | 01:47 |
| cjae | ill try | 01:47 |
| Pumpernickel | q-t: You're mixing your terms. | 01:47 |
| q-t | so xubuntu is running xfce as display manager and gnome as desktop manager... | 01:47 |
| q-t | right ?:P | 01:47 |
| Pumpernickel | Nope. :) | 01:47 |
| TheSheep | Pumpernickel: that was me, sorry | 01:48 |
| q-t | hehe | 01:48 |
| q-t | okay | 01:48 |
| q-t | hmmmm | 01:48 |
| Pumpernickel | GDM is just the login portion. | 01:48 |
| Pumpernickel | From there, xfwm4 is the window manager, and the various parts of the desktop environment are all provided by parts of xfce. | 01:48 |
| q-t | I wish I had a friend that knew linux from the inside out, so someone could show me in person the basics + + | 01:48 |
| Pumpernickel | e.g, the panels, menus, desktop background + icons, etc. | 01:49 |
| q-t | okay, so gnome logs you into the xserver, and then xfce takes over.... | 01:49 |
| Pumpernickel | No, GDM, does that. | 01:49 |
| q-t | argh | 01:49 |
| q-t | :P | 01:49 |
| TheSheep | q-t: that message about starting GNOME is just wrong | 01:49 |
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| TheSheep | I think I'm going to file a bug | 01:50 |
| brianw | gdm is the only part of gnome involved | 01:50 |
| q-t | TheSheep: ok | 01:50 |
| brianw | if you have gnome services, you can use the session manager to start gnome services on login | 01:50 |
| brianw | like if you install gnome-keyring-manager or something | 01:50 |
| q-t | ok | 01:51 |
| cjae_ | you mean "CorePointer" and "Corekeyboard" | 01:51 |
| cjae_ | TheSheep, | 01:51 |
| TheSheep | cjae_: no, the other ones | 01:52 |
| TheSheep | cjae_: I don't have an xorg.cong handy | 01:52 |
| TheSheep | conf | 01:52 |
| q-t | When I use the 'https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI' explanation for installing ATI drivers on xubuntu, the 6.10 (Edgy) explanation. This is better than just adding the driver to the restricted driver manager, or is it just the same??? | 01:52 |
| cjae_ | I am going to pastebin both conf k | 01:52 |
| cjae_ | confs | 01:52 |
| TheSheep | q-t: depends | 01:53 |
| cjae_ | Is nt the restricted 96xx driver? | 01:53 |
| q-t | cjae_: yes:P | 01:54 |
| cjae_ | and the edgy way 8xxx | 01:54 |
| TheSheep | q-t: you get newver driver, but it's not tested so well and supported by ubuntu team | 01:54 |
| cjae_ | it seemed to be stable with beryl installed | 01:54 |
| q-t | TheSheep: Ok, because I have had nothing but trouble with that graph card....ati mobility radeon 9600 | 01:55 |
| cjae_ | I think the old driver is a little old | 01:55 |
| q-t | I was wondering about tuning down the graphics, running it simple or something | 01:55 |
| q-t | cjae_: it said that if the feisty 7.04 way didnt work you should try the edgy way.... | 01:57 |
| unikon | anyone know how to install pidgin 2.0 NOT pidgin beta | 02:00 |
| cjae | ok I have almost destroyed my desktop | 02:04 |
| cjae | here is the one that works http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20557/ | 02:04 |
| cjae | and the one that doesn't http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20558/ | 02:05 |
| cjae | TheSheep, | 02:06 |
| cjae | Jester45, | 02:06 |
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| cjae | hi | 02:13 |
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| TheSheep | cjae: looks good | 02:16 |
| cjae | doesn't work | 02:16 |
| TheSheep | cjae: what's the error? | 02:16 |
| cjae | trying again hang on | 02:16 |
| cjae | the whole server is broke would you like to see ... but I selected no and got thrown to $ | 02:17 |
| cjae | will try again think I saw typo | 02:17 |
| TheSheep | cjae: you have one EndSection toot many in line 60 | 02:18 |
| cjae | think so | 02:18 |
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| TheSheep | good luck | 02:18 |
| cjae | should I have this sorry for no pastebin desktop is whack | 02:21 |
| cjae | Section "ServerLayout" | 02:21 |
| cjae | Identifier "Simple Layout" | 02:21 |
| cjae | Screen 0 "Screen[0] " | 02:21 |
| cjae | Screen 1 "Screen[1] " RightOf "Screen[0] " | 02:21 |
| cjae | InputDevice "Configured Mouse" "CorePointer" | 02:21 |
| cjae | InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" "CoreKeyboard" | 02:21 |
| cjae | EndSection | 02:22 |
| cjae | TheSheep, | 02:22 |
| cjae | the core pointer part | 02:22 |
| cjae | and kb | 02:22 |
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| ouz | i have a xubuntu display question | 02:24 |
| ouz | the top task bar - Applications has disappeared, what is the best way to get it back? | 02:25 |
| zials | x.x | 02:27 |
| zials | right click on an empty spot on the top task bar | 02:28 |
| zials | and select "Add new item" | 02:28 |
| ouz | there is no top task bar, that is what disappeared | 02:28 |
| zials | a new window should open, scroll all the way down and pick the "XFCE menu" | 02:28 |
| zials | O.o | 02:28 |
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| zials | well, do you want to restore the bar or just access the applications menu? | 02:31 |
| unikon | how can i upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04 Xubuntu | 02:31 |
| unikon | zials my applications tab is missing as well | 02:32 |
| zials | is it the whole bar or just the tab? | 02:32 |
| ouz | i am able to access the applications menu now by right clicking the desktop | 02:32 |
| ouz | i enabled it through desktop settings | 02:33 |
| ouz | i would like to know how to restore the bar though | 02:33 |
| zials | well, if you want to add a new panel | 02:33 |
| zials | theres a pannel on the bottom right? | 02:33 |
| zials | right click it and select "Customize panel" | 02:34 |
| Jester45 | unikon: you have to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 to 7.04 | 02:34 |
| Jester45 | !upgrade | 02:34 |
| ubotu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes | 02:34 |
| unikon | jester45, ubotu if i upgrade will all my settings and logs remain unchanged | 02:35 |
| Jester45 | yes | 02:35 |
| unikon | thanks | 02:36 |
| Jester45 | but... upgrading can cause trobles | 02:36 |
| unikon | how so | 02:36 |
| Jester45 | diffrent things go wrong | 02:36 |
| unikon | so its best to do a fresh install with the latest version | 02:36 |
| Jester45 | it is best to use apt-get dist-upgrade from a ttyl(alt + ctrl + F1) and kill the xserver while upgrading | 02:37 |
| ouz | to get the entire panel or taskbar back i used this command "xfce4-panel &" | 02:37 |
| Jester45 | ouz: yes you dont have to put the & | 02:37 |
| Jester45 | ouz: unless your in a terminal | 02:38 |
| ouz | i was in a terminal and wanted it in the background | 02:38 |
| ouz | guess i need to make sure i save settings on exit to keep panel | 02:38 |
| Jester45 | unikon: its safer to do a fresh install, you can burn things you need to a cd and do a dist-upgrade and if it breaks something then do a fresh install and use the cd to restore things | 02:39 |
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| Jester45 | ouz: or add it to the auto started applications | 02:39 |
| unikon | jester45 have you by chance installed pidgin 2.0 yet NOT the beta? | 02:41 |
| Jester45 | nope | 02:42 |
| Jester45 | is that the firefox like music player? | 02:42 |
| unikon | ahh | 02:42 |
| ouz | thanks, did not know about the autostarted applications | 02:42 |
| unikon | how long do you think ittakes from product release to availability on synaptic? | 02:43 |
| unikon | pidgin new version of gaim | 02:43 |
| pRrp | i installed it. | 02:43 |
| Jester45 | o yea | 02:43 |
| pRrp | it seems the same to me.. just diff look.. to avoid their copyright troubles on the logo/name | 02:44 |
| unikon | prrp did you install from source | 02:44 |
| Jester45 | its in synaptic i think it just under the name of gaim so people know what it is | 02:44 |
| pRrp | i think so.. holdon.. lemme see | 02:44 |
| pRrp | it was either source or a .deb | 02:44 |
| Jester45 | ok its not just renamed in the repos | 02:45 |
| Jester45 | it depends on the maintaners activity on it and how many people wnat it | 02:45 |
| pRrp | is there a deb on the pidgin site unikon? | 02:46 |
| Jester45 | no there isnt | 02:46 |
| pRrp | then i used the src i guess | 02:46 |
| pRrp | can't remember.. it was only 3 days ago or so too.. how sad. | 02:46 |
| unikon | just the source in tar.bz2 | 02:47 |
| pRrp | yeah. i remember that | 02:47 |
| pRrp | i did compile it. | 02:47 |
| Jester45 | i will make one if you want | 02:48 |
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| unikon | pRrp it may sound weird but is it easy to compile | 02:48 |
| pRrp | yeah, if you have errors and dont know what to apt-get to remedy it just ask | 02:48 |
| Jester45 | and just so you know its only in beta stage even tho the version is 2.0 | 02:48 |
| Jester45 | hold on a min | 02:49 |
| unikon | pidgin isnt available in apt-get and the guys in pidgin are saying that 2.0 IS out | 02:49 |
| Jester45 | i allmost got the deb done | 02:49 |
| pRrp | yeah i know unikon | 02:50 |
| Jester45 | 2.0 IS out but it IS STILL BETA | 02:50 |
| pRrp | im saying get the tar.bz2 and uncompress it.. attempt to compile | 02:50 |
| pRrp | and if it wont.. i can help you get it to | 02:50 |
| unikon | i installed perfectly on xp | 02:50 |
| pRrp | it's a learning process | 02:50 |
| pRrp | it works fine. :) | 02:50 |
| unikon | cool | 02:50 |
| Jester45 | unikon: ok i have the .deb do you want me to try to send it to you? | 02:51 |
| unikon | please | 02:51 |
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| Jester45 | its i386 | 02:52 |
| ferret_0567 | Does anybody know how to use Nautilus with XFCE? | 02:52 |
| unikon | i see | 02:52 |
| Jester45 | ferret install it and run it? | 02:52 |
| ferret_0567 | nvm | 02:53 |
| pRrp | what's nautilus.. a newsreader? | 02:53 |
| crimsun | it's gnome's default file manager. | 02:53 |
| Jester45 | file manager | 02:53 |
| pRrp | ah | 02:53 |
| ferret_0567 | I think I know...just gotta disable xf4desktop from running, and make a startup script | 02:53 |
| Jester45 | dang crimsun you just jump in a beat me | 02:53 |
| pRrp | i'm kde / fluxbox / xfce .. mostly | 02:54 |
| pRrp | i always have shitty computers | 02:54 |
| pRrp | ;) | 02:54 |
| ferret_0567 | fluxbox? Try openbox | 02:54 |
| pRrp | cool. im using xf on here right now | 02:54 |
| pRrp | openbox better? | 02:55 |
| ferret_0567 | yes | 02:55 |
| pRrp | less resources? | 02:55 |
| ouz | quit | 02:55 |
| ouz | exit | 02:55 |
| Jester45 | unikon: is it going | 02:55 |
| ferret_0567 | I'm not so sure about that | 02:55 |
| ferret_0567 | Maybe a bit more...nothing much | 02:55 |
| unikon | its trying to | 02:55 |
| pRrp | word. this laptop is shitty. | 02:55 |
| ferret_0567 | Or a bit less... | 02:55 |
| pRrp | i have 128mb ram. 550Mhz processor | 02:55 |
| unikon | prrp lolv im running Xubuntu on a 650mhz desktop w/192 ram | 02:56 |
| pRrp | but at least i can browse.. listen to mp3s.. stream vids.. etc. | 02:56 |
| unikon | lol* | 02:56 |
| pRrp | unikon; works good too huh | 02:56 |
| unikon | yep | 02:56 |
| pRrp | i'd smash this laptop if i had to run xp on it | 02:56 |
| unikon | but i bet others are using slower pc's than me | 02:56 |
| ferret_0567 | I'd smash mine too, and it's not slow | 02:57 |
| pRrp | i thought about gentoo.. cause i had that on my old laptop and loved it.. but i didnt wanna spend a year compiling everything so i tried xubuntu.. | 02:57 |
| Jester45 | unikon: here -> http://rapidshare.com/files/28813389/pidgin_2.0.0beta7-1_i386.deb.html | 02:57 |
| unikon | pRrp win2k would work good on your lappy | 02:57 |
| Jester45 | no no. 95 | 02:57 |
| ferret_0567 | Win 98 | 02:58 |
| pRrp | word.. no thanks ahha | 02:58 |
| Jester45 | 95 would run fast but you have the possiblity of crashing by pressing the start bar | 02:58 |
| ferret_0567 | lol | 02:58 |
| pRrp | win 98se was on this thing when i got it.. only 64mb ram too.. i had an old compaq laptop i gutted a chip from and a harddrive to replace the dead one in here | 02:58 |
| pRrp | so im rockn out with 128mb ram and xubuntu on a 6gb hdd | 02:58 |
| Jester45 | i still like notepad for simple html (98 version of notepad) | 02:59 |
| unikon | notepad was VERY usefull IMO | 02:59 |
| unikon | jester45 how long will that rapidshare page be up | 03:00 |
| unikon | ill have to go there later tonight | 03:01 |
| pRrp | damn. my balls got stank quick. i just showered like a day ago | 03:01 |
| pRrp | sorry.. wrong chan.. that was meant for #letstalkaboutthehygeineofourballs.. or something :/ | 03:02 |
| Jester45 | for at least of 90 days | 03:02 |
| unikon | cool | 03:02 |
| unikon | for rapidshare whats the largest file size allowed | 03:03 |
| Jester45 | not sure | 03:03 |
| Jester45 | well none if you use split archives | 03:04 |
| Jester45 | but its 100mb | 03:04 |
| Jester45 | no its 300 | 03:04 |
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| Jester45 | hey vidd | 03:10 |
| Jester45 | you can remove me from ssh if you want im not gonna be using it | 03:10 |
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| cjae | yea | 03:14 |
| cjae | works | 03:14 |
| cjae | thanks to all that helped | 03:14 |
| Jester45 | what working | 03:15 |
| cjae | xserver again | 03:15 |
| Jester45 | o | 03:15 |
| cjae | gonna try mouse now | 03:15 |
| cjae | and the screen 1 desktop | 03:15 |
| cjae | Jester45, thanks | 03:15 |
| cjae | Jester45, can get more resolutions on the tv out? more than one? | 03:16 |
| Jester45 | the tv can | 03:17 |
| Jester45 | and your card most likley can , its up to the driver | 03:18 |
| Jester45 | give it a new res and if it dies | 03:18 |
| Jester45 | run sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and remove it | 03:18 |
| cjae | gonna try | 03:18 |
| cjae | anyone else tried avast for linux | 03:19 |
| cjae | ?? | 03:19 |
| cjae | it 's freakin sweet | 03:19 |
| cjae | does it have a dl daemon | 03:19 |
| Jester45 | avast is cool but useless on linux | 03:19 |
| Jester45 | unless your parnoid about windows comps on your networ | 03:20 |
| Jester45 | k | 03:20 |
| cjae | wine app's and winblows shares | 03:20 |
| Jester45 | dont run wine in sudo | 03:21 |
| Jester45 | thats one step | 03:21 |
| cjae | I guess | 03:23 |
| Jester45 | and 2nd dont run windows :) | 03:23 |
| vidd | (and 4...and 5...and...) | 03:24 |
| unikon | http://www.thisweeknews.com/?sec=home&story=sites/twn/content/pool/exclusives/051107-News-Bexley.html | 03:24 |
| cjae | keep it around case of linux breaking that I manage to do frequently | 03:33 |
| cjae | and to stay on top of what s new there for relatives and such | 03:33 |
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| Jester45 | cjae: run "sudo rm -r /" to fix the breaking :) | 03:34 |
| Jester45 | dont run it | 03:34 |
| cjae | yeah i know | 03:34 |
| ksi | having trouble with screen resolution on 7.04 | 03:34 |
| vidd | ha...i dont let the relatives NEAR my windows boxes... | 03:34 |
| cjae | heard about someone doing it | 03:34 |
| Jester45 | it would be a good virus with that command plus a password guesser | 03:35 |
| vidd | Jester45, dont put that kind of command in a support channel... | 03:35 |
| vidd | there are ppl that might do it thinking that you were talking to them | 03:35 |
| Jester45 | i bet there is only 5 people tops lookingat the irc window | 03:37 |
| cjae | right.... three | 03:39 |
| vidd | sorry...mi9ssed that...wasnt looking.... | 03:40 |
| vidd | lol | 03:40 |
| cjae | their windows boxes | 03:41 |
| Jester45 | you got me + vidd + cjae + crimsun + ChanServ | 03:42 |
| Jester45 | crimsun allways watches | 03:42 |
| Jester45 | and ChanServ is to quite to say anything | 03:42 |
| tonyyarusso | Jester45: BOO | 03:46 |
| Jester45 | darn | 03:46 |
| Jester45 | one more | 03:46 |
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| aro | Are there advantages to using a non-generic kernel? | 03:53 |
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| crimsun | depends on the non-generic kernel. | 03:54 |
| crimsun | -386 works with a wider range of hardware but sacrifices performance. | 03:54 |
| Jester45 | aro: yes depending on your cpu you can get a better preforming one | 03:54 |
| crimsun | -lowlatency works with a smaller subset of hardware but has better responsiveness for desktop apps. | 03:54 |
| crimsun | -server* are better tuned for i/o transactions but sacrifice interactivity. | 03:55 |
| aro | Thanks, sounds like something I should probably read up on | 03:55 |
| ksi | can anyone help me find/install radeon x200m drivers | 03:56 |
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| Jester45 | im trying to link the directory /home/ryan/Desktop/Media to /var/www/Media but i get this error | 04:39 |
| Jester45 | ln: creating hard link `/home/ryan/Desktop/Media' to `/var/www/Media': Invalid cross-device link | 04:39 |
| Jester45 | what does that mean | 04:39 |
| Jester45 | or better yet | 04:40 |
| Jester45 | how do you fix it | 04:40 |
| hitmanWilly | Jester45: try a symlink | 04:41 |
| hitmanWilly | Jester45: ie ln -s | 04:41 |
| Jester45 | ok i will try | 04:41 |
| Jester45 | does apache not fallow symlink by defualt? | 04:44 |
| hitmanWilly | Jester45: don't know much about apache... | 04:45 |
| Jester45 | i will just search the conf for symlink | 04:45 |
| hitmanWilly | good idea | 04:45 |
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| Jester45 | symlink and symbolic link didnt work | 04:46 |
| hitmanWilly | did it link them? | 04:46 |
| Jester45 | in thunar yes | 04:46 |
| hitmanWilly | or is apache just not seeing them? | 04:46 |
| Jester45 | thunar sees it links | 04:46 |
| Jester45 | apache probly doesnt follow the link | 04:47 |
| hitmanWilly | that would be my guess as well | 04:47 |
| hitmanWilly | you can symlink just about anything | 04:47 |
| Jester45 | what about null to / | 04:51 |
| Jester45 | that would get jumbed up quick | 04:51 |
| Jester45 | ftp also works | 04:56 |
| ToHellWithGA | Jester45: hacker | 04:57 |
| ToHellWithGA | why are you in my computer? | 04:57 |
| ToHellWithGA | /home/ryan is mine | 04:57 |
| ToHellWithGA | Jester45: i have apache symlinked and it works fine | 04:58 |
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| ToHellWithGA | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 2007-04-04 20:48 /var/www/files/Packages.txt -> /home/ryan/settings/Packages.txt | 04:58 |
| ToHellWithGA | i reckon if you can symlink files you can symlink directories as well | 04:59 |
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| hitmanWilly | yes, dir symlinks work well | 04:59 |
| hitmanWilly | and /dev/null to / would be quite funny | 05:00 |
| ToHellWithGA | i wonder why homeboy was having problems with that | 05:00 |
| ToHellWithGA | what happens if you symlink to /dev/null? | 05:00 |
| hitmanWilly | it wouldn't work normally cuz / would read as already existing | 05:01 |
| hitmanWilly | but links to null work just like any other link | 05:01 |
| ToHellWithGA | i'm thoroughly impressed with the battery performance of this 8 year old laptop | 05:02 |
| ToHellWithGA | i got the thing to run roughly 2 hours from 90% to 10% battery reading | 05:02 |
| hitmanWilly | not bad | 05:02 |
| ToHellWithGA | lots less power is used when there is no networking :) | 05:02 |
| ToHellWithGA | s/lots/much/ | 05:02 |
| ToHellWithGA | it has no ethernet/wireless, and its modem isn't found by ubuntu | 05:02 |
| hitmanWilly | softmodem probably | 05:03 |
| ToHellWithGA | i kinda wish i could update it some way other than using usb stick/hdd | 05:03 |
| cjae | why do ppl s/ | 05:03 |
| ToHellWithGA | but it is ok | 05:03 |
| ToHellWithGA | cjae: regular expression | 05:03 |
| hitmanWilly | bash hacker thing | 05:03 |
| cjae | what does it mean | 05:03 |
| cjae | ahh | 05:03 |
| ToHellWithGA | s/this/that/ changes the first instance of "this" to "that" in several programs | 05:03 |
| ToHellWithGA | s/this/that/g changes all instances | 05:03 |
| ToHellWithGA | it is fun | 05:04 |
| ToHellWithGA | s/fun/your mom/ | 05:04 |
| hitmanWilly | lol | 05:04 |
| cjae | I am told she was fun | 05:04 |
| cjae | back in the day | 05:04 |
| cjae | !info too much | 05:05 |
| ToHellWithGA | i haven't made "your mom" jokes in forever and suddenly two of my coworkers, both approaching 30 years old, make them all the time | 05:05 |
| ubotu | Package too does not exist in feisty | 05:05 |
| cjae | sorry not really dennis leary | 05:05 |
| hitmanWilly | !toomuchinfo | 05:05 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about toomuchinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:05 |
| hitmanWilly | oh well... | 05:06 |
| hitmanWilly | !bug #1 | 05:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 05:06 |
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| cjae | ok was trying to setup a logitech mx700 cordless optical mouse | 06:11 |
| Jester45 | have fun | 06:12 |
| cjae | here is what I put in and I commented out the other mouse info | 06:12 |
| cjae | not at all pullin hair | 06:12 |
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| cjae | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20578/ | 06:12 |
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| emdash | waaaah! i miss linux | 06:13 |
| emdash | i've outgrown os x | 06:13 |
| cjae | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471 this is what was following | 06:13 |
| cjae | crashed my xserver luckily could just uncomment | 06:13 |
| cjae | is evdev in xubuntu actually isn't it in the kernel? | 06:14 |
| emdash | evdev is a kernel module | 06:15 |
| emdash | and as such, isn't really "in" the distribution so much as it is part of the kernel | 06:16 |
| cjae | it is in the xubuntu 7.04 right | 06:16 |
| cjae | or must I load it | 06:16 |
| cjae | I thought it was there as of edgy or dapper emdash | 06:17 |
| emdash | do you know how to use modutils? (modprobe, lsmod, rmmod?) | 06:18 |
| cjae | /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/input/evdev.ko | 06:18 |
| emdash | whenever i want to know if i have a kernel module loaded i used lsmod | 06:18 |
| emdash | that lists all the kernel modules | 06:19 |
| emdash | that are LOADED | 06:19 |
| cjae | is loaded | 06:19 |
| emdash | you see it in the output of lsmod? | 06:20 |
| cjae | yes | 06:20 |
| cjae | has a size and everything | 06:20 |
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| emdash | hint: you can pipe it to less if you have many lines of output | 06:20 |
| cjae | just scrolled | 06:20 |
| cjae | but thanks | 06:20 |
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| cjae | had some success @ slackware but is much different than ubuntu | 06:21 |
| cjae | have read the entire slackware essentials | 06:21 |
| emdash | ubuntu is typically far less work | 06:21 |
| cjae | yes | 06:21 |
| emdash | the package maintainers do the hard stuff that you would have to do with slackware yourself | 06:21 |
| emdash | anyways | 06:22 |
| cjae | right | 06:22 |
| emdash | i can't really help you without some output from your crashed x-server | 06:22 |
| cjae | I know about insmod | 06:22 |
| emdash | don't use insmod (deprecated) | 06:22 |
| emdash | modprobe! | 06:22 |
| cjae | right as it solves dependancies | 06:22 |
| cjae | my problem is typing and syntax | 06:23 |
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| emdash | how do you start X11? do you use startx? | 06:23 |
| emdash | or do you use GDM or KDM? | 06:23 |
| cjae | want the xorg log?? | 06:23 |
| Jester46 | yes | 06:23 |
| cjae | gdm | 06:23 |
| Jester46 | startx :0 | 06:23 |
| emdash | well it's not the same thing... | 06:23 |
| cjae | who emdash | 06:24 |
| Jester46 | it doent matter gdm will help log you in | 06:24 |
| emdash | yeah, i forget where that is | 06:24 |
| emdash | which is sad, because i use gdm too | 06:24 |
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| cjae | I am lost who is talking to me or not | 06:24 |
| emdash | we are both talking to you, and to each other | 06:25 |
| cjae | ahh | 06:25 |
| Jester46 | i will shut up | 06:25 |
| cjae | want the xorg log?? | 06:25 |
| emdash | yes | 06:25 |
| cjae | where is again | 06:25 |
| emdash | pry /var/log/... | 06:25 |
| emdash | i don't know off-hand, and am not running linux currently so i can't find out | 06:26 |
| emdash | but usually logs end up in /var/log | 06:26 |
| emdash | if we can't find it we'll just disable gdm temporarily | 06:26 |
| cjae | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20579/ | 06:26 |
| cjae | I have a receiver that does both wireless keyboard and mouse | 06:28 |
| emdash | hm | 06:28 |
| emdash | i'm somewhat confused | 06:28 |
| emdash | could you also paste your xorg.conf file | 06:28 |
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| cjae | and I have a generic keyboard at ps/2 | 06:28 |
| emdash | it appears that the mouse configured properly | 06:28 |
| emdash | oh | 06:29 |
| emdash | hm | 06:29 |
| cjae | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20580/ | 06:29 |
| cjae | that is xorg | 06:30 |
| cjae | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20578/ this is what I changed in xorg.conf | 06:30 |
| cjae | and it crashed the server so I commented it out and uncommented the normal mouse | 06:31 |
| emdash | oh | 06:32 |
| emdash | okay | 06:32 |
| emdash | i need to see the crash log | 06:32 |
| emdash | the log i'm looking at doesn't have any errors in it | 06:32 |
| cjae | I have to logitech entries when I check /proc/bus/input/devices | 06:32 |
| cjae | that should say two | 06:33 |
| emdash | gotcha | 06:33 |
| emdash | do you do much programming, cjae? | 06:33 |
| cjae | absolutely none | 06:33 |
| emdash | okay never mind | 06:33 |
| emdash | what i was going to say won't help you | 06:33 |
| cjae | starting to read c++ for dummies lol | 06:33 |
| emdash | typically programs that read config files don't do a very good job of finding errors | 06:34 |
| emdash | so you have to infer what the syntax error was by looking at the error output | 06:34 |
| emdash | typically when X fails to load because of a config file error, the last line says something like "no screens found" | 06:35 |
| cjae | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20581/ is xorg.0.log.old | 06:36 |
| emdash | here's a clue: | 06:37 |
| emdash | 10 Out Of 10 Democrats Hate Freedom | 06:37 |
| emdash | San Francisco, California - A new poll has shown conclusively that Democrats, Independents, Libertarians and Green Party voters hate freedom. | 06:37 |
| emdash | oops | 06:37 |
| emdash | that is totally not what i meant to paste | 06:37 |
| emdash | Parse error on line 51 of section InputDevice in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 06:37 |
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| cjae | lost still | 06:40 |
| cjae | emdash, | 06:41 |
| emdash | sorry, i pasted the wrong thing | 06:41 |
| emdash | but the answer is staring you right in the face | 06:41 |
| emdash | the error log indicates a syntax error on line 51 of the config file | 06:41 |
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| emdash | although i admit i'm at a loss to see the error | 06:45 |
| cjae | what editor opens (besides vi or emacs) telling you what line you are on | 06:45 |
| emdash | got me | 06:45 |
| emdash | i juse vim | 06:45 |
| emdash | *use | 06:45 |
| emdash | i think gedit will, if you turn it on | 06:45 |
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| emdash | plus i've seen newer versions of it do syntax hilighting | 06:45 |
| skyde | does xfce need less memory thant kde | 06:45 |
| emdash | it appears that line 51 i the line that says | 06:46 |
| skyde | i only have 64mb of memory | 06:46 |
| hitmanWilly | emdash: a LOT less | 06:46 |
| emdash | Identifier "Configured Mouse" | 06:46 |
| hitmanWilly | err, skydash | 06:46 |
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| cjae | is gedit on xubuntu? | 06:47 |
| hitmanWilly | anyway, xfce uses a lot less memory than most other desktops | 06:47 |
| cjae | skyde, use xubuntu or xfce you'l never look back | 06:48 |
| cjae | emdash, what is wrong with the line | 06:48 |
| skyde | what about | 06:49 |
| skyde | Fluxbuntu | 06:49 |
| cjae | Don't know but I think xubuntu has more support | 06:49 |
| emdash | skyde: you'll have to ask them | 06:49 |
| emdash | skyde: the question is: do you like fluxbox? do you like xfce? | 06:50 |
| emdash | you'll never know until you try | 06:50 |
| emdash | cjae: i don't really see anything wrong. i suggest you try it again, and pay special attention to how you comment out the lines | 06:51 |
| emdash | if the xserver crashes again, paste the log and the xorg.conf file that produced the error | 06:51 |
| cjae | ok | 06:51 |
| cjae | like arnold says ..... | 06:52 |
| emdash | oh well, starbucks is closing | 06:58 |
| emdash | have to go soon | 06:58 |
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| dsmith_ | how many ppl actually are using xubuntu? | 07:13 |
| cjae | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20587/ emdash | 07:15 |
| cjae | me | 07:15 |
| cjae | emdash, uanvle to initialize the xInt10 module: the console may not be restored correctly to you tv | 07:18 |
| cjae | that should say unable | 07:18 |
| cjae | emdash, unknown protocol "evdev" | 07:18 |
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| cjae | Preinit failed for input device failed to initialize core devices screen 0 shares mem & I/O resources screen 1 shares mem & I/0 resources | 07:22 |
| cjae | emdash, you there?? | 07:24 |
| cjae | anybody ?? | 07:37 |
| kalikiana | !anybody | 07:38 |
| ubotu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 07:38 |
| cjae | already asked my question just wondering if anyone followed along | 07:39 |
| cjae | kalikiana, that was directed to me?? | 07:39 |
| kalikiana | cjae, To me it was not clear that/ what you were asking. Maybe you should clarify that and have some patience. | 07:40 |
| cjae | kalikiana, I had an xserver crash and was being helped with it before I restarted X | 07:42 |
| cjae | kalikiana, sorry | 07:43 |
| kalikiana | cjae, Ah, ok. I just wanted to hint you that this was not obvious to everyone. | 07:44 |
| cjae | ok | 07:44 |
| BFTD | what the heck? Do they not make motherboards with 5 PCI slots anymore? | 07:47 |
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| crabgrass | help, my panels are gone and i dont know how to get them back | 08:00 |
| crabgrass | clicking on "panel" in the settings manager gets me nowhere | 08:01 |
| crabgrass | and if i run xfce4-panel in term, it dies again after a few seconds | 08:03 |
| crabgrass | okay, can anyone tell me where the panel configs are stored? | 08:04 |
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| Z0DIAK | I'm trying to backup my CD audio collection with the flac format, can anyone recommend a good flac encoder? | 08:43 |
| crimsun | um, well, the reference implementation is good... | 08:44 |
| crimsun | did you really mean to ask something else? | 08:45 |
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| Z0DIAK | I'm confused ... I'm a total n00b, I just was wondering if there was a good point and click encoder for flac | 08:46 |
| cjae | is there an updated way to enable all buttons in mx700 duo mouse (keyboard and mouse) | 08:46 |
| cjae | there is like 5 different ways in the ubuntu forums none are the same or for feisty | 08:47 |
| cjae | I have tried a lot of things nothing? | 08:48 |
| cjae | can even get xserver to load after editing xorg.conf | 08:49 |
| cjae | is there an issue with evdev in feisty?? | 08:49 |
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| blkcamarozr28 | Is there any problems upgrading via YUM from 6.10 to ver 7? | 09:05 |
| crimsun | ...via YUM? | 09:07 |
| crimsun | what the... | 09:07 |
| crimsun | why would you use YUM (for RPMS) to update a dpkg-based distro? | 09:07 |
| blkcamarozr28 | whoops...i mean apt-get | 09:15 |
| crimsun | using apt-get? I didn't encounter any. | 09:16 |
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| cjae | hello all | 09:46 |
| kalikiana_ | hi cjae | 09:51 |
| cjae | anyone know what the file that directs how my wm acts | 09:53 |
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| Gerro | how can I get xubuntu to do /sbin/ipw3945 as root during bootup yet before wifi radar starts | 10:03 |
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| brianw | Gerro: when the module loads, it should start the deamon | 10:13 |
| brianw | Gerro: that being said, wifi-radar sucks | 10:13 |
| brianw | Gerro: you may want to use networkmanager | 10:14 |
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| Gerro | the module doesn't start the daemon | 10:16 |
| Gerro | and I might try both out some see how it goes | 10:17 |
| Gerro | I forget which is which | 10:17 |
| brianw | wifi-radar does not support wpa at all | 10:17 |
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| brianw | so it is pretty much useless if you ask me | 10:18 |
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| brianw | The only box I have an intel 3945 card is on my gentoo laptop. And on that, when the module gets loaded, it starts the ipw3945d | 10:18 |
| Gerro | already marked deleted before aboyousif joined :) | 10:19 |
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| Gerro | well mine loads the module but doesn't start the daemon | 10:19 |
| brianw | hmmn | 10:19 |
| brianw | Well I doubt the ubuntu folks overlooked it. | 10:19 |
| brianw | There must be an init if nothing else | 10:19 |
| brianw | did you go into the services gui? | 10:20 |
| Gerro | do you have ipw3945 listed under services perhaps? | 10:21 |
| Gerro | well restricted modules screw my graphics so I copied ipw3945d and named it so I could remove restricted modules and use wireless | 10:21 |
| Gerro | why is it even marked under restricted!? | 10:21 |
| Gerro | yeah | 10:21 |
| Gerro | can I custom add services some how? | 10:21 |
| Myrtti | brianw: say what? | 10:21 |
| Myrtti | it does support wpa | 10:21 |
| Gerro | wifi radar does? | 10:22 |
| Gerro | okay then | 10:22 |
| Myrtti | yes. | 10:22 |
| Myrtti | atleast my madwifi works 100% with it | 10:22 |
| Myrtti | better than network manager | 10:22 |
| brianw | Myrtti: it does now? | 10:23 |
| brianw | Myrtti: as of ~6 months ago it did not | 10:23 |
| Myrtti | in feisty yes | 10:23 |
| Gerro | think there was some reason people liked to use network manager something about system tray or such | 10:24 |
| Myrtti | I was so happy to be able to ditch NM away | 10:24 |
| brianw | yeah nm and madwifi do not work too good | 10:24 |
| brianw | nm and ipw3945 works fine though | 10:24 |
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| brianw | that being said, wifi-radar may be a better choice now that it supports wpa | 10:25 |
| Myrtti | but I'm off, I'm on gprs dialup now | 10:25 |
| Gerro | I like kismet for when I'm in text mode | 10:25 |
| brianw | I just use wpa_supplicant myself | 10:25 |
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| h3sp4wn | Myrtti: If madwifi works 100% with wifi radar - then does it support all features of madwifi (i.e vif's , ap mode, wds) ? | 02:48 |
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| dondong | hi,all | 03:54 |
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| Daemonik | I've just installed xubuntu on an AMD Duron 1600+ with 768m of RAM. Firefox starts fine. But when I close Firefox then try to start it up again it segfaults. Only apparent remedy is to restart the machine. Why would this happen? | 04:06 |
| pleia2 | Daemonik: it might be that it thinks it's closing uncleanly and tries to save a sessionstore.js (in ~/.mozilla/firefox/randomlettersnumbers/sessionstore.js) and when it tries to relaunch it somehow can't read this file and fails | 04:13 |
| pleia2 | so when it breaks, you might want to look and see if the sessionstore.js exists, and delete it | 04:14 |
| Daemonik | Will do | 04:14 |
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| xjkx | Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu LOGOS are free to put anywhere, right? Please don't answer if you ain't sure | 04:21 |
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| Jester45 | im going to start installing non-generic kernals. but i dont know what a cerlron (pentium 2) would use | 04:25 |
| Daemonik | xjkx, If you sell a system with Ubuntu pre-installed you can put a Ubuntu logo on the case or on your website like system76 does. | 04:33 |
| Pumpernickel | xjkx: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy | 04:34 |
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| Gerro | tried installing beryl on xubuntu but I used compiz option on beryl manager and now get constant white screen. help plz | 05:00 |
| Jester45 | try #ubuntu-effects | 05:01 |
| Gerro | its not really a beryl issue | 05:01 |
| Gerro | more so a fact I keep reloading the same glitched up session | 05:01 |
| Gerro | that had compiz running with white screen | 05:02 |
| Jester45 | then dont load the seesion | 05:02 |
| Gerro | how? | 05:02 |
| Jester45 | do you have auto login enabled? | 05:02 |
| Gerro | nope | 05:02 |
| Jester45 | when you login in select a diffrent session | 05:03 |
| Jester45 | at the bottom | 05:03 |
| Gerro | brb think I over looked something | 05:03 |
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| Gerro | jester I checked and default login for xubuntu doesn't have session choice option | 05:06 |
| Gerro | it just shows xclient, xfce, failsafe, failsafe gnome | 05:06 |
| Gerro | and last session | 05:06 |
| Gerro | all give either white error or display text mode | 05:07 |
| Gerro | wait I'll just kill compiz duh, sorry I'm just freaking out trying to get settings going on this | 05:07 |
| Gerro | thx for help | 05:07 |
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| imon9 | hi, can someone tell me how to get rid of the "software uninstaller" made bu xubuntu 4.4.1 installer files? coz the so-called uninstaller doesnt work when i try it anyway | 06:03 |
| imon9 | haloo? isnt anyone here at all? | 06:05 |
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| imon9 | hi, can someone tell me how to get rid of the "software uninstaller" made bu xubuntu 4.4.1 installer files? coz the so-called uninstaller doesnt work when i try it anyway | 06:06 |
| Pumpernickel | Do you mean the xfce installer from xfce.org? | 06:08 |
| imon9 | yes | 06:08 |
| imon9 | haha...finally someone replied..i started to think my chatzilla setting is wrong | 06:08 |
| imon9 | yes, i meant the xfce installer from xfce.org | 06:08 |
| imon9 | after i run that installer according to the instruction given, it sucessfully install the new xfce on my machine and everything work well. NOw that i update my repositories to gutsy, the new xfce is already there | 06:09 |
| Pumpernickel | The #xfce guys would likely know more about their installer's quirks. | 06:10 |
| imon9 | so 3 reason why i dont need the uninstaller (1) the uninstaller doesnt let me uninstall them anyway (2) i dont plan to uninstall the xfce (3) gutsy has them in repositories, so i dont need the manual installer anymore | 06:10 |
| imon9 | ok..i will try #xfce | 06:10 |
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| pilibeen | hi...i'm struggling here trying to connect to an unsecured wireless network. I can see it in iwlist, and i enter the ESSID under network, leave the WEP blank...but still can't connect. Any ideas? | 06:12 |
| pilibeen | I've been able to connect in the past | 06:12 |
| pilibeen | just seems to be something w/ the upgrade | 06:12 |
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| slow-motion | hallo | 06:39 |
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| Riot777 | which user group in ubuntu is for usb devices ? | 08:14 |
| Pumpernickel | Root, on the one device I have here to test with. | 08:18 |
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| cjae | what is the message output I should get from dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M ?? | 09:03 |
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| atarinox | is there a reason I can't save diff network location configs in Feisty? | 09:04 |
| cjae | dd: /dev/hda: No Space left on device | 09:05 |
| cjae | sorry had phone call | 09:05 |
| cjae | cause it filled it with zero,s right of once it was full it should give this message right | 09:06 |
| cjae | first time using dd | 09:07 |
| cjae | like it though cause I is easier than finding the manufacturers utility | 09:08 |
| cjae | I should be it | 09:08 |
| cjae | I think WD is serving out bad .iso images from their site the diag504cCD.iso and the .zip fail in both drives on my Sony box when I burn them to a maxell cdr | 09:13 |
| cjae | i don't think they have a md5 either | 09:14 |
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| cjae | emdash, you around? | 09:21 |
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| TTT_Travis | I have an LVM install of xubuntu feisty, I am almost out of disk space, I would like to add another drive to expand my overall storage, how do I go about formatting and adding the new drive? | 09:24 |
| cjae | does feisty do LVM by default?? | 09:28 |
| TTT_Travis | no | 09:29 |
| TTT_Travis | I used the alternative installer cd and did it manually | 09:29 |
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| cjae | can I remap my caps lock key? | 09:34 |
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| adam0509 | how do you change the panel color ? | 09:56 |
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| Merchelo | any ever tried installing windows server pro 2003 on a machine after installing xu/ubuntu ? | 09:57 |
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| TTT_Travis | Merchelo shouldn't have a problem as long as you left extra space on the drive for the windows server 2003 partition | 09:59 |
| TTT_Travis | when you boot from the W2k3 server cd, create a new partition, making sure not to overwrite or delete any partitions | 10:00 |
| Merchelo | ah ok | 10:00 |
| Merchelo | cool | 10:00 |
| Merchelo | wasn't too hip to the way my system was partitioned, and was wondering if windows would mess up grub | 10:01 |
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| cjae | how do I get the application list from kb again | 10:04 |
| kalikiana__ | cjae, xfdesktop --menu | 10:06 |
| cjae | alt f1 right | 10:06 |
| cjae | hi again btw | 10:06 |
| cjae | cause I am just launching help instead of application window meaning I have the wrong keyboard map right | 10:08 |
| cjae | the other alt does work either | 10:08 |
| cjae | damn m$ | 10:09 |
| cjae | kalikiana_, are you there? | 10:09 |
| cjae | my mouse just died and I am going to throw it out | 10:11 |
| cjae | cause it is junk | 10:11 |
| Merchelo | bury it at least | 10:12 |
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| cjae | fut that, it has taken more than it fair share of my hair | 10:12 |
| cjae | I was telling someone here yesterday how nutz it has made me | 10:13 |
| kalikiana__ | cjae, So what'S wrong with your keyboard? | 10:13 |
| cjae | it acts like it is possessed | 10:13 |
| kalikiana__ | MAybe you set it to emacs style? | 10:13 |
| cjae | kalikiana__, my alts don't seem to work | 10:13 |
| cjae | I think I have the wrong map | 10:14 |
| kalikiana__ | So you should 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' :) | 10:14 |
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| cjae | I have a standard qwerty kb but with the two ms buttons | 10:14 |
| cjae | that is pc105 right | 10:15 |
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| cjae | I counted 104 twice | 10:18 |
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| mads- | Are there any pros when choosing xubuntu over normal ubuntu? | 10:42 |
| mads- | none? =) | 10:44 |
| Merchelo | you get to chat with us? | 10:44 |
| Merchelo | you get to chat with us? | 10:45 |
| Zeqfreed | mads-, smaller size and lesser memory usage i guess | 10:45 |
| Merchelo | also it uses less memory, and comes packed with cool splash screens | 10:46 |
| mads- | Have you tried 7.04 ? I'm using 6.10 right now, and have heard 6.10 is nicer... | 10:46 |
| Zeqfreed | i'm using gentoo :) | 10:47 |
| Merchelo | well i use 6.10 because 7.04 doesn't like my gfx card, and i'm too lazy to properly fix it | 10:47 |
| mads- | What gfx do you have? | 10:48 |
| Merchelo | ati 9200 | 10:48 |
| mads- | aaah, ati | 10:48 |
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| mads- | Think I will try xfce4 - looks nice :) | 10:49 |
| Zeqfreed | mads-, good choice | 10:50 |
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| cjae | ok I did a xserver recompile and my kb but's still don't work | 10:51 |
| cjae | I selected pc104 as pc105 was in my xorg and that I counted them twice | 10:52 |
| cjae | still pressing alt f1 does nothing | 10:52 |
| cjae | it is a logitech wireless kb with the volume and easy but's @ the top | 10:53 |
| TTT_Travis | I just did a clean install of xubuntu 7.04 last night | 10:55 |
| TTT_Travis | so far I don't have problems | 10:55 |
| Zeqfreed | cjae, run xev and try pressing the keys. does it produce any output? | 10:55 |
| Zeqfreed | i should run it inside the terminal surely | 10:56 |
| Zeqfreed | *you | 10:56 |
| cjae | yes alt L and alt | 10:56 |
| cjae | R | 10:56 |
| cjae | and the ms but work to | 10:57 |
| Merchelo | there's alt and then there's altgr | 10:57 |
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| cjae | crt alt f1 put me to a real console | 10:58 |
| cjae | that is alt L | 10:58 |
| Zeqfreed | and alt+f1 not working? | 10:58 |
| cjae | ff xfce documentattion | 10:58 |
| cjae | just when I just hit f1 | 10:59 |
| Zeqfreed | so what is your particular problem? | 10:59 |
| cjae | cannot select application menu from kb | 10:59 |
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| Zeqfreed | hm | 11:00 |
| cjae | does just changing the pc10X part in xorg.conf use a different kb rule?? | 11:01 |
| Zeqfreed | only after restarting the xserver | 11:01 |
| cjae | cause I counted them twice which btw means nothing | 11:01 |
| cjae | and I got 104 but I was 105 in my xorg | 11:02 |
| Zeqfreed | or you can use xmodmap which can change the settings on the fly | 11:02 |
| Zeqfreed | are you sure alt+f1 should open the menu? | 11:02 |
| cjae | does xfce use something else than alt f1 for menu | 11:03 |
| Zeqfreed | i have no idea | 11:03 |
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| cjae | I went to a different workspace and tried alt(L) f1 and it opened ffox with the xfce doc | 11:04 |
| Zeqfreed | as far as i can remember i've bound some command to the super key for opening the menu when i used xubuntu | 11:04 |
| jrabbit | hi | 11:05 |
| Zeqfreed | jrabbit, hey | 11:05 |
| jrabbit | I was installing ubuntu on seperate drive and now brub sends back error 21 | 11:05 |
| jrabbit | *grub | 11:05 |
| jrabbit | any way to reinstall grub from live CD? | 11:05 |
| jrabbit | or alt Cd but I have the live CD here | 11:06 |
| Zeqfreed | jrabbit, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/8978 is this the issue you have? | 11:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 8978 in grub "Grub - Error 21 returned" [Medium,Confirmed] | 11:06 |
| cjae | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html | 11:06 |
| jrabbit | Zeqfreed, seems right | 11:07 |
| Zeqfreed | jrabbit, i hope it'll be helpful | 11:07 |
| jrabbit | I have a second bios for loading a pci/ata card that I can't edit | 11:07 |
| jrabbit | soo | 11:07 |
| cjae | I hate xorg | 11:09 |
| jrabbit | oh | 11:09 |
| jrabbit | ok | 11:09 |
| Zeqfreed | cjae, try binding "xfdesktop -menu" command to some key and pressing it | 11:09 |
| jrabbit | instructions for doing it from commandline | 11:09 |
| jrabbit | great :D | 11:09 |
| jrabbit | I knew you did something from terminal -> grub | 11:09 |
| Zeqfreed | cjae, you can even try to bind it to alt+f1 keys :) | 11:09 |
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| Pumpernickel | You can use `xev` if you're curious as to what keycode your alt keys are currently generating. | 11:10 |
| cjae | I don't understand why it does just work | 11:11 |
| cjae | the meta keys don't work w/f1 either and I don't know how to make them bind | 11:11 |
| Zeqfreed | somewhere in the menu there's a keyboard configuration launcher ;) | 11:12 |
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| Aar0n444 | Hi | 11:15 |
| Zeqfreed | well.. i need some sleep. bye | 11:17 |
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| Aar0n444 | How can I get this kernal mod working in any version of Xubuntu >6.06? It worked in 6.06 http://guillermoesteves.com/blog/2006/06/08/how-to-get-a-d-link-dwl-g650-wi-fi-adapter-to-work-in-ubuntu-linux-6-06 | 11:25 |
| mcscruff | i installed a kde app, but it keeps saying cannot talk to klauncher | 11:40 |
| mcscruff | help pls | 11:40 |
| Aar0n444 | Xubuntu uses XFCE | 11:40 |
| Aar0n444 | Not KDE | 11:40 |
| mcscruff | i know, i have the kde libs tho | 11:40 |
| Aar0n444 | No idea then | 11:41 |
| Aar0n444 | Sorry | 11:41 |
| mcscruff | the app runs but when i do file-open i get that error | 11:41 |
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| cjae | ok I think maybe some should have spoke up about crt esc I know I probably should have looked at keyboard settings too | 12:05 |
| cjae | before I reconfig my xserver | 12:06 |
| Merchelo | backup your old xerver.conf | 12:07 |
| cjae | yes I had so I just cp it over | 12:07 |
| cjae | anyone know what Load"i2c" is for in xorg | 12:08 |
| cjae | was missing when I reconfigured | 12:09 |
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