[12:40] <cliebow_>  ho
[01:24] <mr2>  I have a live 7.04 ubuntu that will not install (freezes @ 15%) I think it has to do with only have a SATA drive ...is there a fix for this?
[04:01] <alfred_> is there any way to them out the default login manager for edubuntu and the ltsp client
[04:02] <alfred_> sorry that is theme out like with KDM I can use different user lists per station etc
[04:10] <bimberi> alfred_: you can change the default symlink in /opt/ltsp/<arch>/usr/share/ldm/themes/
[04:10] <alfred_> thank you
[04:11] <bimberi> alfred_: yw :)  not sure about creating/editing though
[04:11] <alfred_> well with kdm you can tell it based on mac address what user list to show
[04:11] <alfred_> for that machine
[04:11] <alfred_> How can I tell ldm to stop and use kdm?
[04:12] <bimberi> alfred_: that I don't know sorry
[04:13] <alfred_> thanks though
[04:17] <alfred_> I got the kdm to work but no keyboard...
[06:14] <grn> any suggestions as to why a fresh fiesty 7.04 on a dell optiplex 320 would have just a blinking cursor after grub menu timeout
[06:14] <grn> live cd works though
[06:30] <bimberi> grn: does ctrl-alt-F1 get you to a text login prompt?
[07:30] <Meshezabeel> how can I make a modification to edubuntu and repack it into an installation disc?
[07:33] <bimberi> Meshezabeel: there's http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/ (for ubuntu but would probably work with edubuntu)
[07:34] <Meshezabeel> thanks bimberi :)
[07:34] <bimberi> Meshezabeel: yw :)
[07:47] <Meshezabeel> bimberi, looking through the docs, it looks like I can install programs from apt repositories, but I have made my own educational software that I would like to install on the disc, is this also possible?
[07:49] <bimberi> Meshezabeel: i don't really know sorry.  I would be suprrised if you can't.  At the very least you could make your own packages.
[07:50] <Meshezabeel> ok, thanks, I don't know anything about making a package, but if I made a package, could I then upload it to some sort of public repository?
[07:54] <bimberi> checkinstall is one way of making packages ...
[07:54] <bimberi> !checkinstall
[07:54] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[07:55] <bimberi> and falcon is a very nice repository builder ...
[07:57] <bimberi> !info falcon edgy-seveas
[07:57] <ubotu> falcon: Falcon repository creator. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy-seveas), package size 175 kB, installed size 516 kB
[07:57] <bimberi> !seveas
[07:57] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:06] <Meshezabeel> ok, thanks for all your help again :)
[09:40] <mario> highvoltage, you still like being op :)
[09:40] <mario> after all this time ;P
[09:42] <highvoltage> mario: I just need to set it up that it doesn't auto-op, been too lazy when it comes to irc stuff
[09:42] <highvoltage> (ironically)
[09:42] <mario> highvoltage, how are you doing? :)
[09:44] <highvoltage> mario: well, just got back home yesterday, and have to leave again tonight, so things are a bit hectic, but I don't have a reason to complain
[09:45] <mario> ah  :)
[10:21] <chris_hansen> hi there... are there any ltsp experts around??
[10:25] <chris_hansen> is my message getting through??
[10:25] <mario> yes, it is
[10:25] <chris_hansen> ok, thanks :)
[10:26] <chris_hansen> i'll check back later, and see if someone can help then...take care all
[02:26] <MM2_> I have edubuntu server with ltsp, but clients cant boot from it
[02:26] <MM2_> I use windows dhcp-server and client gives error: "PXE-T04: Missing mode"
[02:26] <MM2_> And edubuntu syslog shows: "tftp: client does not accept options"
[02:52] <JohnFlux> Anyone at the ubuntu summit in sevilla?
[02:53] <ogra> JohnFlux, thats over sice saturday
[02:53] <JohnFlux> it was meant to be asked in past tense heh
[02:54] <JohnFlux> the kdeedu person, annma, is trying to find out if anything was decided
[02:54] <JohnFlux> particularly whether there were any problems with packaging kde edu stuff etc
[02:55] <ogra> all our kdeedu probs were solved with moving it to the addon CD
[02:55] <ogra> in feisty
[02:56] <JohnFlux> so all the kde programs are separate from gnome apps?
[02:56] <ogra> we wont repackage anything now that we have additional space
[02:56] <JohnFlux> or do I misunderstand?
[02:56] <ogra> most of the edu apps moved over, not only KDE
[02:56] <ogra> but yes
[02:58] <ogra> in gutsy we'll pull the whole of kdeedu in and look through additional apps as well
[02:58] <JohnFlux> cool
[02:58] <ogra> (we dont use the kdeedu metapackage but a selected list of apps from it yet ... gutsy has space enough to pull all in)
[02:58] <JohnFlux> are there any particular problems etc that the kdeedu people can help with?
[02:59] <ogra> we were also defining a voting system for apps so users can rate
[02:59] <JohnFlux> by an addon cd, you mean edubuntu is now on two cds or what?
[02:59] <ogra> yep
[02:59] <ogra> with feisty we moved to a two CD setup
[02:59] <JohnFlux> both part of edubuntu right?
[02:59] <ogra> yes
[03:00] <ogra> there are slight problems with getting that across to users (wording/naming etc) but we'l solve these for gutsy
[03:00] <ogra> hey anna
[03:00] <annma> hi ogra
[03:00] <ogra> to sad yu couldnt be in sevilla ... it was great ...
[03:00] <ogra> *you
[03:01] <annma> yeah
[03:01] <JohnFlux> annma: were there any more questions you had for the edubuntu guys?
[03:02] <annma> I just wonder why we don't work together
[03:02] <annma> that's my question
[03:03] <ogra> we dont ?
[03:03] <JohnFlux> annma: what particular things would you like done?
[03:03] <annma> everyone I meet about Educational Software asks me that question
[03:03] <ogra> i work very close with riddell
[03:03] <annma> ogra: do we?
[03:03] <JohnFlux> ogra: do you use irc or the mailing list mostly?
[03:03] <annma> riddell is not part of kdeedu
[03:03] <ogra> i thought he would be my proxy to you guys
[03:03] <annma> well he never said so
[03:03] <ogra> well, he is kde upstream, isnt he ?
[03:04] <annma> so I never got anything back to you
[03:04] <ogra> JohnFlux, IRC
[03:04] <annma> that's what I mainly asked John
[03:04] <annma> I asked if there was a KDE representative
[03:04] <JohnFlux> annma: maybe stay on this channel ?
[03:04] <ogra> annma, well, since feisty all our problems should be gone now, i just explained it to john
[03:05] <ogra> annma, there were never problems with kdeedu ... thats something i never got across to you guys ... the probelms were always size related ...
[03:05] <annma> so you're putting all kde-edu stuff on the second CD?
[03:05] <annma> it's not only about problems
[03:05] <ogra> we're putting nearly everything edu related on the second CD
[03:05] <annma> it's also about gettinbg feedback from your users
[03:06] <annma> getting things fixed, talking i18n and all that
[03:06] <ogra> for feisty there was gcompris and kdeedu ... in gutsy more stuff will move and i'll look into moving libs and languages back to the first one
[03:06] <JohnFlux> annma: do you have a launchpad account?
[03:06] <annma> I htink I have one
[03:06] <JohnFlux> ogra can you help annma get signed up to the launchpad edubuntu bugs maybe?
[03:06] <annma> JohnFlux: please
[03:07] <ogra> sure ... just sign up for the team, i'll enable you right away
[03:07] <annma> that willnot solve anything, I have no time to triage bugs
[03:07] <annma> besides I always forget passwords, I have too many
[03:08] <JohnFlux> annma: use kwallet ;_0
[03:08] <JohnFlux> annma: you don't have to triage bugs, but this way you can see the feedback from users
[03:09] <ogra> i dont think there are many kdeedu bugs ... to be honest thats the software i see the least ones with in edubuntu ...
[03:09] <ogra> good work ;)
[03:09] <JohnFlux> annma: maybe sign up for only kde edu bugs?
[03:09] <annma> you only talk about packaging then at your meetings?
[03:09] <JohnFlux> you might have to do it app by app something
[03:10] <annma> the wiki advertized for applications on the desktop
[03:11] <annma> that's mainly what interest me: how to develop better edu apps
[03:11] <ogra> annma, we talked about appselection too ..
[03:11] <ogra> annma, but more generally
[03:12] <annma> ok
[03:12] <annma> it would be good if you tell us when you  son't select an app why you do so for ex
[03:12] <ogra> *i* dont care about gnome or kde apps ... i only care how to manage the distro ... we'll put an app voting mechanism in place for gutsy so users can rate and we'll put in what they want
[03:13] <annma> ok
[03:13] <ogra> if the page i done i'll send you the link and see if we can get an rss feed in place that provides the current list on a daily base
[03:13] <annma> I also don't care much about toolkit to be frank
[03:14] <ogra> yay for consensus :)
[03:14] <annma> what interest me is to make it clear to teachers that some free stuff exists
[03:14] <annma> i work a lot with Bruno from GCompris
[03:14] <annma> we do all our advertizment together
[03:15] <JohnFlux> excellent
[03:15] <JohnFlux> I gotta shoot off now
[03:15] <JohnFlux> cya ;-)
[03:15] <annma> yeah me too
[03:15] <annma> one last thing: I invited you guys to aKedemy Edu Day
[03:15] <ogra> see you then
[03:15] <annma> any chance someone comes?
[03:16] <ogra> yeah, i need to check my schedule
[03:16] <annma> let me know then please
[03:16] <ogra> i'm very full with travelling the next months
[03:16] <ogra> will do
[03:16] <annma> thanks for your time
[03:16] <ogra> sebas already talked to me
[03:16] <annma> bye
[03:16] <ogra> ciao
[03:16] <annma> ok
[04:48] <bddebian> Heya
[08:40] <andrea> hello
[08:41] <andrea> I install an ltsp server in edubuntu server 7.10; I create few user with the same name of the hostname of the client. I need to autologin them, can somebody help me? Please
[08:41] <andrea> 7.4 sorry
[08:55] <RichEd-1> andrea : try #ltsp ... there are more LTSP people awake there now ... USA time
[08:56] <andrea> thanks
[09:14] <MM2> andrea: It might be difficult with gdm...
[09:19] <aze> hi all
[09:22] <aze> any french edubuntu users ?
[09:36] <moquist> sbalneav: hey there
[09:36] <moquist> sbalneav, ogra: did any magic bullets come out of the LTSP boot performance sessions?
[09:37] <moquist> I know I was there, but I was paying attention to things that I thought were higher priority for my schools. Turns out that this is really important for us after all...
[09:37] <moquist> The spec is rather...sparse. :)
[09:38] <moquist> (that is, "blank")
[09:40] <ogra> moquist, it was more a workshop than a spec
[09:41] <ogra> things we find are bugs and have to be fixed
[09:41] <moquist> ogra: right...but was anything written down taht I can read?
[09:41] <ogra> and no, last thing i tried today was switching nfs back and forth between udp and tcp
[09:41] <moquist> ogra: Or should I just keep bugging people who paid attention so they can tell me what the conclusions were? :)
[09:41] <ogra> there were none
[09:41] <moquist> ogra: OK
[09:42] <ogra> we tried all the differentces from ltsp 4.2 in 5 and have not found the magic one yet
[09:42] <ogra> what i havent tried yet is to use uclibc instead of klibc ...
[09:43] <ogra> but that doesnt look very promising as possible bottleneck
[09:48] <moquist> k
[11:03] <moquist> ogra: Testing with this same laptop, LDM takes 60 seconds longer to load than GDM. (feisty)
[11:16] <moquist> ogra: FWIW, http://nopaste.org/p/aPx1NVHOrb documents the TC specs and boot times to login, GDM v. LDM
[12:16] <aze> any french edubuntu users ?