[12:40] ho === mr2 [n=a@user-12lc7fg.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:24] I have a live 7.04 ubuntu that will not install (freezes @ 15%) I think it has to do with only have a SATA drive ...is there a fix for this? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.1.25] has joined #edubuntu === merriam__ [n=merriam@85-211-245-180.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === mr2 [n=a@user-12lc7fg.cable.mindspring.com] has left #edubuntu [] === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.1.25] has joined #edubuntu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.227] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool115.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === alfred_ [n=alfred@ip-159.250.65.22.dsl.crocker.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:01] is there any way to them out the default login manager for edubuntu and the ltsp client [04:02] sorry that is theme out like with KDM I can use different user lists per station etc === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.1.25] has joined #edubuntu [04:10] alfred_: you can change the default symlink in /opt/ltsp//usr/share/ldm/themes/ [04:10] thank you [04:11] alfred_: yw :) not sure about creating/editing though [04:11] well with kdm you can tell it based on mac address what user list to show [04:11] for that machine [04:11] How can I tell ldm to stop and use kdm? [04:12] alfred_: that I don't know sorry [04:13] thanks though [04:17] I got the kdm to work but no keyboard... === benplaut [n=benplaut@unaffiliated/benplaut] has joined #edubuntu === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@71-12-14-250.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Lameiro [n=lameiro@c9539748.virtua.com.br] has joined #edubuntu === grn [n=blu@user-12lc7fg.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #edubuntu [06:14] any suggestions as to why a fresh fiesty 7.04 on a dell optiplex 320 would have just a blinking cursor after grub menu timeout [06:14] live cd works though [06:30] grn: does ctrl-alt-F1 get you to a text login prompt? === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d4295e.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #edubuntu === Meshezabeel [n=kevin@142-165-225-70.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #edubuntu [07:30] how can I make a modification to edubuntu and repack it into an installation disc? [07:33] Meshezabeel: there's http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/ (for ubuntu but would probably work with edubuntu) [07:34] thanks bimberi :) [07:34] Meshezabeel: yw :) [07:47] bimberi, looking through the docs, it looks like I can install programs from apt repositories, but I have made my own educational software that I would like to install on the disc, is this also possible? === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu [07:49] Meshezabeel: i don't really know sorry. I would be suprrised if you can't. At the very least you could make your own packages. [07:50] ok, thanks, I don't know anything about making a package, but if I made a package, could I then upload it to some sort of public repository? [07:54] checkinstall is one way of making packages ... [07:54] !checkinstall [07:54] checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running! === stv__ [n=stv@24.115.153.231.res-cmts.tv13.ptd.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:55] and falcon is a very nice repository builder ... [07:57] !info falcon edgy-seveas [07:57] falcon: Falcon repository creator. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy-seveas), package size 175 kB, installed size 516 kB [07:57] !seveas [07:57] Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages [08:06] ok, thanks for all your help again :) === Meshezabeel [n=kevin@142-165-225-70.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has left #edubuntu [] === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-245-152-55.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === mario [n=mario@83-131-31-218.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === andrea [n=andrea@host162-134-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [09:40] highvoltage, you still like being op :) [09:40] after all this time ;P [09:42] mario: I just need to set it up that it doesn't auto-op, been too lazy when it comes to irc stuff [09:42] (ironically) [09:42] highvoltage, how are you doing? :) [09:44] mario: well, just got back home yesterday, and have to leave again tonight, so things are a bit hectic, but I don't have a reason to complain [09:45] ah :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === chris_hansen [i=83a56661@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-6d27f45862811d8e] has joined #edubuntu [10:21] hi there... are there any ltsp experts around?? [10:25] is my message getting through?? [10:25] yes, it is [10:25] ok, thanks :) [10:26] i'll check back later, and see if someone can help then...take care all === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/linuxpreview.org/x-57c0bf1092910231] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@17.Red-83-54-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-ea7a14bf2a0857ea] has joined #edubuntu === mario is now known as pygi === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.221] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === bronze [n=Lester@c-24-62-225-133.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.163] has joined #edubuntu === mario [n=mario@83-131-71-49.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@c-69-245-220-180.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:26] I have edubuntu server with ltsp, but clients cant boot from it [02:26] I use windows dhcp-server and client gives error: "PXE-T04: Missing mode" [02:26] And edubuntu syslog shows: "tftp: client does not accept options" === jinty_ [n=jinty@87.219.191.250] has joined #edubuntu === jinty__ [n=jinty@17.Red-83-54-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === JohnFlux [n=JohnFlux@konversation/developer/JohnFlux] has joined #edubuntu [02:52] Anyone at the ubuntu summit in sevilla? [02:53] JohnFlux, thats over sice saturday [02:53] it was meant to be asked in past tense heh [02:54] the kdeedu person, annma, is trying to find out if anything was decided [02:54] particularly whether there were any problems with packaging kde edu stuff etc [02:55] all our kdeedu probs were solved with moving it to the addon CD [02:55] in feisty [02:56] so all the kde programs are separate from gnome apps? [02:56] we wont repackage anything now that we have additional space [02:56] or do I misunderstand? [02:56] most of the edu apps moved over, not only KDE [02:56] but yes [02:58] in gutsy we'll pull the whole of kdeedu in and look through additional apps as well [02:58] cool [02:58] (we dont use the kdeedu metapackage but a selected list of apps from it yet ... gutsy has space enough to pull all in) [02:58] are there any particular problems etc that the kdeedu people can help with? [02:59] we were also defining a voting system for apps so users can rate [02:59] by an addon cd, you mean edubuntu is now on two cds or what? [02:59] yep [02:59] with feisty we moved to a two CD setup [02:59] both part of edubuntu right? [02:59] yes [03:00] there are slight problems with getting that across to users (wording/naming etc) but we'l solve these for gutsy === annma [n=annma@kde/developer/annma] has joined #edubuntu [03:00] hey anna [03:00] hi ogra [03:00] to sad yu couldnt be in sevilla ... it was great ... [03:00] *you [03:01] yeah [03:01] annma: were there any more questions you had for the edubuntu guys? [03:02] I just wonder why we don't work together [03:02] that's my question [03:03] we dont ? [03:03] annma: what particular things would you like done? [03:03] everyone I meet about Educational Software asks me that question [03:03] i work very close with riddell [03:03] ogra: do we? [03:03] ogra: do you use irc or the mailing list mostly? [03:03] riddell is not part of kdeedu [03:03] i thought he would be my proxy to you guys [03:03] well he never said so [03:03] well, he is kde upstream, isnt he ? [03:04] so I never got anything back to you [03:04] JohnFlux, IRC [03:04] that's what I mainly asked John === JohnFlux nods [03:04] I asked if there was a KDE representative [03:04] annma: maybe stay on this channel ? [03:04] annma, well, since feisty all our problems should be gone now, i just explained it to john [03:05] annma, there were never problems with kdeedu ... thats something i never got across to you guys ... the probelms were always size related ... [03:05] so you're putting all kde-edu stuff on the second CD? [03:05] it's not only about problems [03:05] we're putting nearly everything edu related on the second CD [03:05] it's also about gettinbg feedback from your users [03:06] getting things fixed, talking i18n and all that [03:06] for feisty there was gcompris and kdeedu ... in gutsy more stuff will move and i'll look into moving libs and languages back to the first one [03:06] annma: do you have a launchpad account? [03:06] I htink I have one [03:06] ogra can you help annma get signed up to the launchpad edubuntu bugs maybe? [03:06] JohnFlux: please [03:07] sure ... just sign up for the team, i'll enable you right away [03:07] that willnot solve anything, I have no time to triage bugs [03:07] besides I always forget passwords, I have too many [03:08] annma: use kwallet ;_0 [03:08] annma: you don't have to triage bugs, but this way you can see the feedback from users [03:09] i dont think there are many kdeedu bugs ... to be honest thats the software i see the least ones with in edubuntu ... [03:09] good work ;) [03:09] annma: maybe sign up for only kde edu bugs? [03:09] you only talk about packaging then at your meetings? [03:09] you might have to do it app by app something [03:10] the wiki advertized for applications on the desktop [03:11] that's mainly what interest me: how to develop better edu apps [03:11] annma, we talked about appselection too .. [03:11] annma, but more generally [03:12] ok [03:12] it would be good if you tell us when you son't select an app why you do so for ex [03:12] *i* dont care about gnome or kde apps ... i only care how to manage the distro ... we'll put an app voting mechanism in place for gutsy so users can rate and we'll put in what they want [03:13] ok [03:13] if the page i done i'll send you the link and see if we can get an rss feed in place that provides the current list on a daily base [03:13] I also don't care much about toolkit to be frank === cliebow [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === ogra hugs annma :) [03:14] yay for consensus :) [03:14] what interest me is to make it clear to teachers that some free stuff exists === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-152-55.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [03:14] i work a lot with Bruno from GCompris [03:14] we do all our advertizment together [03:15] excellent [03:15] I gotta shoot off now [03:15] cya ;-) [03:15] yeah me too [03:15] one last thing: I invited you guys to aKedemy Edu Day [03:15] see you then [03:15] any chance someone comes? [03:16] yeah, i need to check my schedule [03:16] let me know then please [03:16] i'm very full with travelling the next months === MM2 [n=moversti@edu.haapavesi.fi] has joined #edubuntu [03:16] will do [03:16] thanks for your time [03:16] sebas already talked to me [03:16] bye [03:16] ciao [03:16] ok === creadorcreativo [n=insomnia@201-220-127-219.bk10-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #edubuntu === mario is now known as pygi === JohnFlux_ [n=JohnFlux@cpc3-brig10-0-0-cust96.brig.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.1.25] has joined #edubuntu === andy__ [n=andy@host156-171.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #edubuntu === andy__ is now known as bluekuja_ === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [04:48] Heya === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.32] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja_ is now known as bluekuja === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving...."] === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === sholsinger [n=stv@24.115.153.231.res-cmts.tv13.ptd.net] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool153.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === JohanSalim [n=guest@ip84-222.cbn.net.id] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d42965.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A96AE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === JohnFlux_ is now known as JohnFlux === pauljw [n=paul@pool111.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === andrea [n=andrea@host162-134-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #edubuntu [08:40] hello [08:41] I install an ltsp server in edubuntu server 7.10; I create few user with the same name of the hostname of the client. I need to autologin them, can somebody help me? Please [08:41] 7.4 sorry [08:55] andrea : try #ltsp ... there are more LTSP people awake there now ... USA time [08:56] thanks === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:14] andrea: It might be difficult with gdm... === aze [n=aze@208.76.31.22] has joined #edubuntu [09:19] hi all === creadorcreativo [n=insomnia@201-220-127-219.bk10-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #edubuntu [09:22] any french edubuntu users ? [09:36] sbalneav: hey there [09:36] sbalneav, ogra: did any magic bullets come out of the LTSP boot performance sessions? [09:37] I know I was there, but I was paying attention to things that I thought were higher priority for my schools. Turns out that this is really important for us after all... [09:37] The spec is rather...sparse. :) [09:38] (that is, "blank") === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #edubuntu === mario_ [n=mario@83-131-6-203.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [09:40] moquist, it was more a workshop than a spec [09:41] things we find are bugs and have to be fixed [09:41] ogra: right...but was anything written down taht I can read? [09:41] and no, last thing i tried today was switching nfs back and forth between udp and tcp [09:41] ogra: Or should I just keep bugging people who paid attention so they can tell me what the conclusions were? :) [09:41] there were none [09:41] ogra: OK [09:42] we tried all the differentces from ltsp 4.2 in 5 and have not found the magic one yet [09:42] what i havent tried yet is to use uclibc instead of klibc ... [09:43] but that doesnt look very promising as possible bottleneck [09:48] k === mario_ is now known as pygi === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu [11:03] ogra: Testing with this same laptop, LDM takes 60 seconds longer to load than GDM. (feisty) === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu [11:16] ogra: FWIW, http://nopaste.org/p/aPx1NVHOrb documents the TC specs and boot times to login, GDM v. LDM === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@pool-71-97-205-239.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:16] any french edubuntu users ? === creadorcreativo [n=insomnia@164.77.219.51] has joined #edubuntu