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The Warwick University GNU/Linux User Group have a couple of projects that are in Launchpad and it'd be cool to be able to group them... === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === indu [n=indraven@203.129.255.187] has joined #launchpad === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === indu is now known as indraveni === allenap [n=gavin@212.233.38.227] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #launchpad === mwh [n=mwh@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.174.62] has joined #launchpad === wingo-pb [n=wingo@200.Red-81-38-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad === tjs [n=tjs@58.169.68.213] has joined #launchpad [01:58] G'day, is there any way to have launchpad notify an irc bot about a commit? === sinzu1 [n=sinzui@adsl-138-88-55-147.ba-dsg.net] has joined #launchpad === bac_afk is now known as bac === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.103.136.113] has joined #launchpad === tjs [n=tjs@58.169.68.213] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === milian [n=milian@p57BB17C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #launchpad [02:27] hi there [02:27] is there a way to prevent the automatic subscription to bugs in a given project? === milocs [n=pallina@62.94.208.118] has joined #launchpad === barry [n=barry@canonical/launchpad/barry] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === allenap [n=gavin@212.233.38.227] has joined #launchpad === zwn1 [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === kiko [n=kiko@canonical/launchpad/pdpc.supporter.active.kiko] has joined #launchpad === gianmt [n=gianmt@151.8.29.18] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-229.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #launchpad === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable040.144-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [03:18] kiko: where's my cluebat? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/114616 [03:18] Launchpad bug 114616 in webmin "Broken package dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [03:24] did I promise you a cluebat Hobbsee? :) [03:25] kiko: no. but you should have. one can never have too many cluebats [03:25] kiko: but this is why we need to make ti harder to file bugs :P [03:25] yeah === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@ubuntu/member/gnukemist] has joined #launchpad === bigjools [n=ed@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === dcid_1 [n=dbc@fctnnbsc14w-142167085066.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net] has joined #launchpad === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad === andy__ [n=andy@host156-171.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #launchpad === jkakar [n=jkakar@204-174-36-45.dhcp802.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has left #launchpad ["Leaving...."] === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #launchpad === wingo [n=wingo@core.fluendo.com] has joined #launchpad [05:00] launchpad's not updating its bzr mirror of my project, anyone know why? [05:03] wingo, what's the project? === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad [05:04] salgado: http://code.launchpad.net/guile-gnome [05:06] mwhudson, do you know anything about this? === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad [05:08] mwhudson, and also, why is pygtk not importing? === lfittl [n=lfittl@212.41.228.52] has joined #launchpad [05:25] kiko: no, but i can probably find out [05:27] wingo: can you tell me a branch that should have updated? [05:29] kiko: at a guess because the current vcs import is from cvs and pygtk is using svn now [05:30] mwhudson: for example, https://code.launchpad.net/~andywingo/guile-gnome/atk [05:34] wingo: not sure instantly, will try to look in a bit [05:36] mwhudson: thanks === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad [05:36] I filed a "question" about it, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/6528 [05:40] mwhudson, can we update that, you think? === barry is now known as barry-lunch === barry-lunch is now known as barry-away === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #launchpad === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/rinchen] has joined #launchpad === zwn1 [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad [06:15] kiko: probably [06:20] mwhudson, feeling brave? [06:21] kiko: not really === schwuk [n=dave@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus [n=mholthau@158.177.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === flacoste is now known as flacoste_lunch [06:33] wingo: it seems no bzr mirror branches are updating... === mwhudson and ddaa on it === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === habeeb [n=habeeb@85.73.229.7] has joined #launchpad === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #launchpad === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [06:48] mrevell: ping me when you're around :D [06:48] beuno: I'll pong you instead :) [06:49] much better, how's it going? [06:49] beuno: Not bad, thanks :) You? [06:49] fighting with a cold, it's winning 2-1 [06:49] :D [06:50] do you want to play around with the Launchpad Etiquette idea? [06:50] :) [06:50] Yeah. [06:51] launchpad etiquette? [06:51] As I said in my email, I think we need something simple and overarching - like the Ubuntu CoC "Ground Rules" section - followed by tool-specifics [06:51] Hobbsee: Yeah, a general introduction to being a good Launchpad citizen [06:51] Hobbsee: Without being patronising. So, something like a CoC for Launchpad. [06:51] nice [06:51] mrevell: the idea popped into my head after an incident where someone started adding teams to their team [06:51] Hobbsee: I'd love to hear your thoughts on it! [06:52] which created some panic [06:52] beuno: Right [06:52] (emails flying everywhere) [06:52] ah yes, ettiquite on teams being subscribed to bugs, etc, would be good [06:52] beuno: So, to me that would be one of the specific "It's best not to do this" situations. [06:52] i'm wondering how much it's needed though - those who dont use common sense dont read teh documentation either [06:53] Hobbsee: I was thinking something very short and simple that you could place somewhere when creating a new account (email even) [06:53] could be smart [06:53] Hobbsee: It's hard to encourage people to use Launchpad in a way that treats other people with respect, if you can't point at a document that says, "This is a good way to behave" [06:53] mrevell: that's a good point [06:53] mrevell: that was my second point [06:53] :) [06:53] :) === habeeb [n=habeeb@85.73.229.7] has joined #launchpad [06:54] I think examples work pretty well [06:54] I think the important thing is that it should be clear and simple. If you're new to Launchpad, there is a lot to take in. [06:54] So, it may be easy for someone to accidentally do something that affects other people badly. === WebMaven_ is now known as WebMaven [06:55] beuno: What sort of examples are you thinking of? [06:55] New bug: #114651 in launchpad "Question emails don't have in-reply-to/references headers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114651 [06:56] mrevell: like when filling a bug, not to add 9 comments after [06:57] as in explaining the consecuences of your actions in Launchpad [06:57] beuno: I have a concern. [06:57] I'm not sure what the best example is, but it's probably not clear to a lot of people that when something gets changed, a lot of emails get sent [06:58] mrevell: scaring users into not using it? :D [06:58] beuno: Yeah, but also === dcid_1 [n=dbc@fctnnbsc14w-142167085066.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net] has left #launchpad [] [06:59] beuno: we could end up with a long list of examples, which could make the document unmanageable and become quickly outdated. That's not a reason to throw out using examples, we just need to think of the best way to handle them. [06:59] I think the more general principles that we can establish, the better. [06:59] mrevell: absolutely, I think one good example can give you a general idea [07:00] Do you think we could update the interface text to make some of this more obvious? [07:01] wingo: should be updating again now [07:01] may take a while [07:02] mwhudson: thanks for looking at it [07:02] mrevell: absolutely, adding a few words on *what* is going to happen besides the specific action would help a lot === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad [07:02] as in "You're about to asociate a new team, please keep in mind all members from both teams will be emailed about this change" [07:02] wingo: if it happens again let us know [07:03] beuno: Do you think that could annoy experienced users? It would take up space. Perhaps we could have a "hand-holding" mode, not that I know if that's possible. [07:04] will do === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@p54939091.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #launchpad [07:05] mrevell: well, it depends on where you place the text, I don't think a few words somewhere will annoy anyone [07:06] and since launchpad is so big, their might be people who have used it for a long time, but not a specific part, and that might be helpful [07:08] kiko: ddaa has told me how to re set-up the pygtk import [07:08] kiko: but i'm too fried to try it now... [07:08] wise decision [07:08] beuno: Okay. Cool. I'm going to seek input from as many different users as possible. In a few minutes, I'll post to the launchpad-users lists to open the discussion. It'd be great if you could reply with your thoughts. [07:09] mrevell: sure, I have a couple of specific cases I had thought of scribbled somewhere, I'll keep looking for it and reply in the mailing list === schwuk [n=dave@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad [07:10] beuno: excellent, thanks [07:10] mrevell: thanks for the quick feedback :D [07:11] mrevell: No probs. I think this is a really great thing to be doing, so thanks for bringing it up. I'll ping you when I've sent the mail. === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad [07:14] beuno: Okay, sent :) [07:16] +1 [07:18] mrevell, :D [07:19] Rinchen: Hey, feeling better? [07:19] mrevell, yes, thanks :-) [07:19] so good in fact the wife had me working all weekend [07:19] Rinchen: Glad to hear it :) [07:19] Rinchen: Got time for a call at some point this week? [07:19] yes sir, especially for you [07:21] great, thanks :) [07:21] Okay, I'm afk until tomorrow. Rinchen: I'll mail you. [07:22] okey dokey === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === milian_ [n=milian@p57BB17C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #launchpad === flacoste_lunch is now known as flacoste === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [07:45] New bug: #114657 in launchpad-answers "Cannot add subscribers to skipped list because of bad indentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114657 === barry [n=barry@canonical/launchpad/barry] has joined #launchpad === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-074-028-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === tsmithe [n=toby@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #launchpad === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #launchpad === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === sjmorgan [n=sjmorgan@78.32.64.213] has joined #launchpad [08:29] is launchpad.net down? [08:30] sjmorgan, working for me [08:31] are you sure it isn't cached? [08:31] sure [08:31] what are you getting? [08:32] it redirects me to https:// and then it just can't seem to connect [08:32] sjmorgan, are you sure you are able to connect to https sites from where you are? [08:33] good point, other https sites don't seem to be working either [08:33] how peculiar [08:33] "technology" [08:34] i'm fairly sure it isn't a pebkac error [08:34] no new iptables rules or proxy settings [08:35] maybe it's my isp, can't think why though [08:39] i can connect using opera, weird [08:40] meh [08:40] thanks for your help [08:41] kiko: one of hte bugs that i filed got milestoned, etc, for 1.1 :D [08:41] maybe there is a point in filing bugs on LP === Hobbsee should really go to bed. === mEDUXa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === McKinney [n=McKinney@Q8d4e.q.pppool.de] has joined #launchpad === fernando1 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-c4a3b6cfef594668] has joined #launchpad === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === gianmt [n=gianmt@host123-154-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ubuntu/member/gwaihir] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === lamont` [i=lamont@nat/hp/x-22f711568c3fb03e] has joined #launchpad === lamont` is now known as lamont === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === doko_ is now known as doko === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #launchpad === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@host-87-74-19-19.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad === freezone [i=freezone@66.252.19.81] has joined #launchpad [10:57] hi === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #launchpad === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad === thumper is now known as thumper-desktop === jml [n=jml@125-236-193-95.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === thumper [n=tim@canonical/launchpad/thumper] has joined #launchpad === habeeb [n=habeeb@85.73.229.7] has joined #launchpad === thumper-desktop is now known as _thumper_ === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #launchpad === habeeb [n=habeeb@85.73.229.7] has joined #launchpad [11:31] Goooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! [11:31] good morning mpt! === wingo-pb [n=wingo@200.Red-81-38-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] [11:33] mornin' mpt [11:34] Odd_Bloke, yes, https://launchpad.net/projectgroups [11:34] mpt: Thanks. [11:35] oh, that page is forbidden, odd [11:35] so [11:35] what I suggest [11:35] mpt: Heh, so it is. [11:35] is going to https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [11:35] morning [11:35] after you've registered your individual projects [11:36] and make a request that lists the projects you want to group together, and what you want the group to be called [11:36] then a Launchpad admin can set it up for you [11:37] mpt: OK, cheers. === bac is now known as bac_afk === thumper [n=tim@125-236-193-95.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad [12:00] New bug: #114705 in launchpad "Security vulnerability checbox too easy to hit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114705 === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad