[12:34] <PirateKooG> where can i get some help?
[12:39] <nalioth> PirateKooG: help with what?
[12:40] <PirateKooG> dvds wont read in fiesty
[12:40] <PirateKooG> data/video wont be read by my dvd writer, but blank dvds, and all cds do
[12:54] <Niriven> Gusty usable like the previous beta yet?
[12:54] <Niriven> rather i know this isnt beta
[12:54] <Niriven> Just wondering if its semi stable at the moment
[01:07] <borschty_> open office does not work right now, except for that it is usable at the moment, but that is likely to changen
[01:07] <borschty_> -n
[01:08] <borschty_> and no change worth an upgrade has happened
[01:15] <PirateKooG> anyone know why my fiesty wont read dvds? it reads only blank dvds, and all kinds of cds, but video/data dvds wont read
[01:16] <Niriven> Pirate: YEs, you need something called libcss2 to read the encryption on dvd movies
[01:16] <Niriven> Pirate: due to problems with liscensing or something it is not in the ubuntu repository, but there are reps around, google for em
[01:20] <PirateKooG> ive upgraded those Niriven, still doesnt read
[07:50] <bibby> can someone show me a paste of their gutsy sources.list? when I update I am not getting the updates I think I should be. e.g. I am running kernel 2.6.20-15 from feisty still..
[07:52] <RAOF> You could probably install the new kernel with apt-get/aptitude/synaptic, but I don't belive it's automatically upgraded at the moment.
[07:52] <crimsun> bibby: that's intentional.  2.6.22-2 is by no means ready.
[07:53] <crimsun> hence, as RAOF implied, linux-meta has not been updated to point to it.
[07:54] <bibby> ahh
[11:07] <_4strO> yop
[11:38] <Trewas> no powertop yet on gutsy, it would have motivated me to upgrade from feisty :(
[11:38] <Trewas> and already almost two days since it was released
[12:20] <dav7> lol
[12:20] <dav7> what is this?! :P
[12:20] <spike> hi there
[12:21] <dav7> hey :D
[12:21] <spike> I dist-upgraded to feisty from dapper and since then my meta keys are acting weird. I've searched launchpad and there are some bugs about similar things but not this exact one
[12:22] <spike> basically if I do alt-1 it'll print the 1, like at was completely ignored. altho it works fine for everything else, ie, all my alt-based shortcuts in fluxbox
[12:22] <spike> also, the win key is gone, running xev will show "NoSymbol" rather than the usual Win_L or whatever that was, cant remember exactly
[12:23] <spike> all those mappings are screwed :(
[12:41] <dav7> ooh
[12:41] <dav7> spike: I don't use Ubuntu myself... so can't help you. I recommend you ask your question in #ubuntu.
[12:42] <spike> no thanks, any question in there will just get lost in a flood of n00bs trying to tweak beryl and their desktop eyecandys
[12:43] <gnomefreak> spike: this is not a feisty support channel. feisty support is in #ubuntu
[12:44] <spike> fine, sorry for that
[03:07] <popey> yo manchicken, you made it home okay?
[03:37] <IdleOne> is herd1 released yet?
[03:39] <ryanpg> I know gutsy isn't stable, I know not to use it on production systems, but I'm wondering how "crashy" it is currently, I've run edgy and feisty throughout development.
[03:40] <ryanpg> is it pointless to upgrade/test yet?
[03:48] <Hobbsee> ryanpg: networkmanager is broken
[03:48] <Hobbsee> i'd still wait until the first testing cd is released, though
[03:48] <ryanpg> Hobbsee, yeah I think I will actually
[03:49] <ryanpg> Hobbsee, though one might suggest networkmanager is broken by design :P
[03:49] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:49] <Hobbsee> works fine here
[03:49] <Hobbsee> most of the time
[03:49] <ryanpg> yeah, most of the time for me too... but when it doesn't... sigh
[03:52] <ryanpg> I'm having a ton of crashes in a few apps... OO.O, synaptic, this is with feisty (and could be related to some mucking about with cairo I've done)
[03:54] <manchicken> popey: yup
[03:56] <IdleOne> Hobbsee, when is first gutsy release scheduled for?
[03:57] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: the topic is your friend - see the schedule
[04:10] <ryanpg> Hobbsee, lol, I couldn't resist... doing apt-get dist-upgrade now! :P And hoping (likely in vain) that the OO.O crashes will end
[04:10] <Hobbsee> ryanpg: hopefully.  other things will breka, though
[04:10] <ryanpg> Hobbsee, yeah I'm sure
[04:11] <ryanpg> I guess in the worst case scenario I do a fresh feisty install (backing up my important docs now)
[04:12] <Hobbsee> yeah
[04:18] <ryanpg> I was actually going to wait just till xorg-* stuff landed in gutsy and upgrade anyway. I'm really antsy to see what xserver 1.3 and mesa 7.0 brings to my desktop
[05:01] <ryanpg> rebooting into gutsy :)
[09:06] <Jazon> hello folks
[09:34] <centrinel> oi
[09:35] <PriceChild> how mean
[10:14] <centrinel> is there possible to only upgrading kernel to 2.6.21 but not to gutsy?
[10:54] <mc__> hi guys. what do you think about this?: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/setup-tool
[11:06] <corevette> Have they released any features about Gusty Gibbon
[11:14] <mc__> corevette: you can look them up on blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gusty
[11:19] <corevette> mc__ is that the correct site?
[11:20] <mc__> corevette: nope,theres i typo in it. this is the correct site:https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy