[12:14] Good night geser [12:15] Adri2000: Got a minute to look at a bugfix ready for upload? [12:15] night geser [12:16] Bug #113803 is ready for uus review I believe. [12:16] Launchpad bug 113803 in python-scientific "Python-netcdf crashes in Feisty" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113803 === bhale [n=bhale@unaffiliated/tseng] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] ok kids, what is the latest proceedure for sync requests? [12:25] bhale: is the package in universe? [12:25] pochu: no. [12:25] main? [12:25] yes. [12:27] bhale: then I think you have to file a bug against the package, and after that subscribe ubuntu-archive [12:27] oh, thats familiar [12:28] bhale: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess [12:28] bhale: sorry, subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors, and wait for a confirmation [12:28] then subscribe (if they haven't done it) ubuntu-archive [12:29] pochu: er, i am a "main sponsor" [12:29] bhale: lol, are you? [12:29] pochu: yes. [12:29] bhale: then either confirm it yourself, or wait for any other main sponsor to confirm it :) [12:30] bhale: hehe, didn't know :-) [12:30] pochu: im not that active any more [12:30] i did most of the mono work for warty->breezy and dropped off a bit in dapper [12:31] it's never late to come back! :) [12:31] slomo does it better :) === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] pochu: can you spare 1 or 2 minutes? [12:44] beuno: sure! === DktrKranz [n=Luca@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Microsoft] [12:45] pochu: UWN is about to go out, and I'm looking for a team to highlight and promote, the MOTU team sounds like a good candidate :D [12:46] beuno: sure! but I'm not a MOTU ;) [12:47] beuno: I'm on my way, though :-) [12:47] pochu: well, I'm just looking for some guidance to write a paragraph or two [12:47] but probably I can help you if you have any question [12:47] beuno: sure [12:48] beuno: the MOTU team takes care of the Universe and Multiverse repositories in Ubuntu [12:48] which have thousands of packages [12:49] pochu: I'd like to define a bit "take care", can you be a bit more specific? [12:49] they fix bugs, upload new upstream version, request syncs from debian, do merges with debian, package new software... [12:49] (I have a general idea about packaging and syncing from Debian) [12:50] also the MOTU hopefulls and contributors do that stuff, but we don't have rights to upload the the repo, so we ask for a MOTU for sponsorship [12:50] there are also library transitions [12:50] just not in recent memory? [12:50] bhale: as the mono from warty to breezy? ;) [12:51] pochu: 'back in my day...' [12:58] beuno: hope that's useful :) [12:59] if you have any particular question... [12:59] pochu: great, yeah, thanks, I'll start writing it up === concept10 [n=concept1@adsl-70-251-0-137.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:11] beuno: I'm off to bed, I wish you a good writing! :) [01:11] night all! === bhale [n=bhale@unaffiliated/tseng] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:11] g'night pochu, thanks again! === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === beuno_ [n=martin@200.127.67.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu === brentc4m [n=brent@adsl-75-62-178-87.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] shit, still no manchicken [01:58] i hope he made his flight === Xk2c [n=Xk2c@e178195187.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] hi [02:00] i would like to set a bug/package on the whishlist for packaging === asac_ [n=asac@e177165039.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] how do i do that [02:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-btdownload/+bug/99401 [02:00] Launchpad bug 99401 in gnome-btdownload "gnome-btdownload" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [02:01] ? [02:02] !info gnome-btdownload [02:02] gnome-btdownload: Gnome interface for 'executing' BitTorrent files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.0.25-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 31 kB, installed size 288 kB [02:02] that's #ubuntu-desktop stuff [02:02] ic [02:02] thansk for the information [02:02] thanks === concept10 [n=concept1@adsl-70-251-0-137.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] Xk2c: When the Debian maintainer is gone, Ubuntu will still maintain the (now more buggy) package, If you have a patch that fixes one of the bugs, please mirror the bug in Ubuntu (be sure to link to Debian), and attach the patch to the bug. [02:05] ic persia === aanderse [n=aaron@CPE0015e916db19-CM001225d7436c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] TheMuso: Please search prior to sync requests (bug #112606) [02:13] Launchpad bug 112606 in audacity "Pleas sync audacity 1.3.2-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112606 === persia runs and hides after misreading things [02:14] persia: Heh. [02:14] persia: lol [02:15] persia: I was waiting for this to pop up. [02:15] ardour that is. === TheMuso loves all the archive changes on debian multimedia. === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:18] Morning RAOF. [02:19] Mornin TheMuso [02:20] RAOF: hi [02:21] Mornin to you jml :) [02:21] RAOF: it's actually afternoon over here/ [02:21] You're in Seville? [02:21] <_MMA_> That would be night. [02:22] <_MMA_> Err. 2am. === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _rollerskatejamm [n=rollersk@pool-71-249-99-9.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] TheMuso, have a few moments for a revu of another package? [02:38] superm1: Sorry, no. I want to get some automated building of svn releases of packages set up, as users have been asking for them for weeks. I'll see how I feel mentally after that. :) [02:39] TheMuso, okay thanks. feel mentally great i hope afterwords :) [02:39] superm1: Thanks. === glick [n=glickity@cpe-75-84-238-0.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] hi [03:00] anyone up in here? === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Acksys [n=acksys@cpe-024-088-056-038.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === IanC [n=IanC@gipp-p-144-139-165-242.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] glick: I am [03:22] but I'm not a motu ;) [03:22] hey [03:30] hey glick [03:30] yo === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.149.1.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === minghua-windows [n=chatzill@adsl-75-54-164-106.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:04] hey Hobbsee [04:04] heya persia!!! [04:04] Hey Hobbsee, persia [04:05] hi RAOF! [04:05] hi RAOF [04:06] Back from UDS Hobbsee? [04:06] RAOF: yeah, just got home [04:08] Hobbsee: You must be tired. [04:09] TheMuso: not too bad - slept a lot of it [04:09] Thats good. [04:09] Or maybe she had 36 hours of invigorating refreshing travel. [04:10] Mmm, refershing overseas flights. Just love em. [04:11] hehe [04:15] where is the buildd queue hidden in launchpad? [04:15] Hobbsee: ! [04:15] Amaranth!!! [04:15] Amaranth: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue is a good place to start [04:15] wow, and i thought 21 hours was bad [04:15] oh, but my luggage was on the flight after me [04:16] ahhh [04:16] my luggage was on my flight [04:16] and got wet along the way so the TSA "we went through your shit" notice blend ink on to a bunch of my shirts and shorts [04:17] That's pretty cool. Very nice of them. [04:17] lawl [04:17] sparc and powerpc ftbfs doesn't block entry to the archive, does it? [04:18] Could someone with C++-fu please tell me why pname and test2 are different in http://pastebin.ca/486808 ? [04:18] persia: what is pnames defined as? [04:19] and did you check to see if you were overflowing? [04:19] Amaranth: Sorry. I should past larger code snippets. const char ** pnames [04:19] did you ever malloc some space for it? [04:21] Amaranth: to answer that (and perhaps forestall some future questions): http://pastebin.ca/486816 provides a largeer snippet. [04:22] hrm === Amaranth will let someone with obvious answers and more time get to that one [04:22] Amaranth: Thanks for looking. [04:22] with memory and C/C++ I just play with things until it works ;) === rollerskatejamms [n=rollersk@pool-71-249-99-9.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:23] persia: possibly the cWX2MB call doesn't malloc the return value? [04:23] But that'd be a bit weird. [04:23] right, that was my next idea [04:23] having to manually malloc room and use strdup [04:27] RAOF: Thanks for the hint: it appears that my problem is that wxCharBuffer != wchar_t*. [04:28] That actually was going to be my next question :) [04:28] (About the return type of cWX2MB [what's with that name?] ) [04:29] RAOF: wxwidgets is an interesting library: the names are especially fun :) [04:29] wxwidgets is horrible [04:29] They clearly have a highly advanced automatic code generator generating the API. [04:29] in the interest of working everywhere they've made a horrible library that is very similar to windows APIs [04:32] Even down to the annoying hugarian prefix variable naming scheme? [04:32] apparently === concept10 [n=concept1@70.251.0.137] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] Ugh. === Tesl [n=ben@202-94-145-1.cust.bit-drive.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ranf [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-186-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:55] hi [04:55] hi ranf === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ingrid232 [n=kevin@adsl-68-73-207-59.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:29] so, I just sent a diff for updated zsnes to the Debian BTS, and the maintainer of the package took a year to address the last update request, albeit with no help from the reporter - should I also submit my package to revu then? [05:30] or wait a couple of weeks first? [05:30] Simon80: I'd give it a couple weeks. There's plenty of time before the feature freeze, and it's better to sync than to carry separate packages. [05:30] k [05:31] on to the next package then :) === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu__ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-107-76.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rollerskatejamms [n=rollersk@pool-71-249-99-9.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:16] imbrandon, your mirror must be getting hammered right now, from pegasus i was getting 54.2 kb/s tops. I switched over to a umn.edu mirror and i'm getting more along the lines of 2456 kb/s === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua-windows wonders if he is fighting a losing battle being the only bugmail contact of a main package [06:28] which package? [06:28] I just looked through all the bugs and found a few that haven't been responded to since reported months ago [06:28] Simon80: scim, the package I maintain in Debian [06:28] ah, scim [06:29] a package I know little about, save for the fact that I know little about it, and that there is much to know [06:29] it would help if I knew more than one alphabet, too === minghua-windows only knows one alphabet, too, as Chinese doesn't have an alphabet :-) [06:29] lol [06:30] what would you call it then? [06:30] minghua-windows: What about pinyin? [06:30] pinyin's not an alphabet, it's an input method [06:30] right? === persia was under the impression it was a phonetic notation mechanism. [06:31] sure [06:31] Simon80: we just learn characters. one by one, as there are thousands of them [06:31] indeed [06:32] I'm wondering what you'd call a huge set of characters like that though [06:32] a character set :) [06:32] persia: pinyin can use an alphabet, but it's not required === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:33] minghua-windows: Ah. My misunderstanding then (I should really learn more than i ni san shi oo in Chinese). [06:33] for example, in mainland, we use latin alphabet for pinyin notation; in Taiwan, they use some strange symbol system (we used to use them 30 years ago as well) === ceros [n=user@c-76-111-84-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia is only familiar with Taiwan pinyin === Simon80 is only familiar with a few offensive verbal phrases in cantonese [06:34] I heard that Serbian people can use either latin alphabet or cyrillic alphabet to write their language, I suppose that's a similar situation [06:35] Simon80: personally, I suspect the reason we don't call is an alphabet is not because it's huge, but because there is no well-defined order :-) [06:35] minghua-windows: Somewhat, although I have heard significant debate as to whether the language is the same in cyrillic or latin (but then again, there is significant difference between kanji and hanzi, despite being self-represented identically). [06:35] that too [06:36] persia: what is "i ni san shi oo" BTW? is that mandarin or cantonese? [06:37] persia: yeah, and many people think the Unicode people messed up when they make Chinese and Japanese use the same codepoints [06:37] minghua-windows: , , , , , and probably Taiwanese. [06:38] it looks more like mandarin to my untrained eye [06:38] persia: probably. it's not mandarin, and I happen to know how to count in Cantonese :-) [06:38] the romanised writing, I mean, I don't have a hope of understanding the glyphs [06:38] Simon80: Anyone should understand the first three (one, two, three) :) [06:39] Simon80: that's one to five in Chinese (script). how to pronounce it depends on the language. :-) [06:39] ah, that doesn't look like how it sounds.. [06:39] Simon80: Not at all. I first learned as "ichi ni san yon go", for example. [06:41] I have to be a motu to join motu-games, don't I? :) [06:41] Simon80: Yes, but motu-games is very approachable. If there is a game that is broken, and you can fix it, any of the members will be very happy to apply your fixes. [06:42] ah [06:42] well, for now, I'm more going for adding packages [06:42] I suppose that's not necessarily welcome, extra work, hehe [06:43] I plan on submitting openglad next, it's this old DOS game I played back in the day [06:43] some people tried to clone it, and the original authors found out and gave them the source [06:44] praise the original authors [06:44] yes === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:45] it's a shame stepmania's default theme is all dubious as far as legal status, I tried to get that in first === ThiefOfBaghdad [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:46] I've had a few happy replies from the forum at least [06:46] about using that package and having things actually work [06:47] I have yet to set up a real repo though, with different dists, a pool directory, etc === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p1033-ipbf37marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === welp [n=welp@gentoo/developer/welp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vi1 [n=vladimir@catv-tisnov-86.selfnet.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tudenbart [n=willi@xdsl-213-196-253-80.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apacheLAGger [n=me@N725P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke_ [n=koke@87.218.96.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tudenbart is now known as dothebart [08:17] Um, why is deluge-torrent not in Feisty any more? [08:18] Never mind, should've search LP first :( [08:18] nod. === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-185-45.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hanusz_Leszek [n=Hanusz_L@21.225-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F7018E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:43] good morning [08:47] Good afternoon :) [08:47] Good something. === persia [n=persia@p1033-ipbf37marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke_ [n=koke@14.Red-88-26-177.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F71412.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-6-105.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] dholbach: err, sorry for spamming -bugs. [09:54] what did you spam? how? :) === dholbach did not notice yet [09:54] just noticed all my responses belonged in here, that's all. === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.176.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:55] ah ok - well... no problem :) === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@151.100.133.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jucato_ [n=jucato@124.106.176.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-29-11.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hanusz_Leszek [n=Hanusz_L@21.225-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart hugs dholbach === dholbach hugs siretart back === persia declares C++ to be harmful, and suggests that fans of pointers should restrict themselves to ANSI C, and that fans of objects should use python or Java. [10:19] :) [10:20] persia: what, you don't like templates and polymorphism? [10:20] which you don't have to the same extent in neither python nor java [10:22] crimsun: I like templates, but I find it really frustrating that that *foo[i] = (const foo*) bar doesn't behave properly when **foo is passed to another context. [10:22] s/bar/*bar/ [10:22] bad programmers can write bad code in any language [10:23] yep [10:23] -.- I still need to report the python=pam bug [10:23] I need help writing a patch and makign a deb src package [10:23] well [10:23] generating the patch* [10:23] siretart: Yes, but with C, pointers really carry type information, and in python or Java, casts are managed. Oh well, time to move the cast up a couple levels. :) [10:24] wolfeon: Which package? [10:24] persia: python-pam === mjgumbley [n=Matt@87.86.105.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] it doesn't work at all with python 2.5 because the author was using the generic PyObject_free or some such, i patched it on my system, but would like to allow ubuntu to fix the problem [10:25] by not working, I mean it causes python 2.5 to segfault if you do anything to a certain point, it would be something motu would want to push out as a major bugfix for release [10:25] the current release* [10:25] wolfeon: For that package, there's no managed patch system. The easiest way is to unpack a pristine copy of the source, make all the changes you need, update the changelog with `dch -i`, run debuild to make sure you didn't make a simple mistake, and run `debdiff repository-pakcage new-package` to generate the patch. Testing the build with pbuilder or sbuild is also encouraged. [10:26] hmm [10:26] I'll have to do it tomarrow :/ [10:26] *tomorrow even [10:27] wolfeon: Actually, that's not the easiest way, just the preferred. You could also rename the changed source tree, recollect the pristine source, and run `diff -urN pristine changed` to get a patch, but it would probably take longer to get to the archives. [10:28] persia: all I know is.. anyone who is gonna use ubuntu on a server with webwareforpython or any framework which uses python-pam is gonna get a kick in the mouth when their app keeps segfaulting :)) [10:29] now if upstream would just accept the patch and release.. [10:31] wolfeon: Good luck on getting it upstream, and thanks for finding a solution. === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke_ [n=koke@14.Red-88-26-177.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:40] siretart: you still here? I never got email from revu with password and when i go to recover it doesnt give me anything to decrypt [10:41] gnomefreak, have you uploaded anything yet? [10:41] gnomefreak: revu doesn't send mails (at least not with passwords) [10:41] yes a few times [10:41] gnomefreak: what is your email with which you uploaded your packages? [10:42] ive uploaded iceape a couple of times and would like to comment. gnomefreak@ubuntu.com [10:43] <\sh> are we using debians ice* for gutsy? or why do we need iceape? [10:44] \sh: best to ask asac on #ubuntu-devel [10:44] oh no, he's around here as well [10:44] yes [10:45] whats up? [10:45] would rather use iceape than seamonkey branding atm [10:45] <\sh> dholbach, asac == ubuntus new mozilla * maintainer? [10:45] asac: branding [10:45] ah ... yes we will merge iceape for now === gnomefreak fixing it as we speak ;) [10:46] \sh: yes - asac is the Mozilla Wizard [10:46] I just realised (duh!) what use it would be (the Completely Free derivative). [10:46] gnomefreak: i still don't see why you get your build problems .. iceape spins fine here [10:47] i am inclined to just upload it [10:47] asac: i dont know why it was failing from bzr [10:47] hmmm [10:47] its building fine using source from repos [10:47] i am using bzr here [10:47] asac: im not only person that it failed for though [10:47] who else? [10:47] asac: did you use -nc? [10:48] no -b [10:48] bddebian [10:48] for aclean build [10:48] it fails during testing it [10:48] to be clear, it failed using pbuilder. [10:48] asac: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5092 [10:48] what failed using pbuilder? building from bzr? [10:48] comment is there [10:49] <\sh> asac: why the change from mozilla name use to debians name use (forgetting the debianb/control changes)? [10:49] asac: i believe they were building off source i uploaded [10:49] if i use -S -sa it doesnt fail. but fails during testing build at patches [10:49] \sh: main reason for now is that its more efficient to use debian as upstream [10:51] hopefully in next hour or 2 i should have it uploaded to revu again as fixed [10:52] gnomefreak: so you figured out why it fails? [10:52] if that patch fails to apply your source base appears to be messed up [10:53] e.g. maybe you used from upstream version to build orig.tar.gz [10:53] wrong upstream version i mean [10:54] i used same one i have been using i think [10:54] think is probably not good enough :) [10:54] its same one [10:55] it was released on 2/22 or something like that [10:55] the latest on ftp.mozilla [10:55] i thought maybe bad download but i did it 4 times [10:56] but lets see what happens with this build [10:56] gnomefreak: we had a good tarball once ... what happened to it? why did you actually repack the orig at all? [10:57] asac: i used the upstream i had to build from bzr [10:57] not sure why repo source builds and bzr doesnt [10:58] look at the contents of the orig tarball [10:58] mike never commented on a change since i released mt8 [10:58] its messed up [10:58] you forgot to move mozilla/* . [10:58] before running source target [10:58] oh damn [10:58] e.g. your tarball contains [10:58] ubuntu-1.1.x/mozilla/ [10:58] but it should be just mozilla/ [10:59] that could explain it :( [10:59] sure [10:59] i should try to make it easier to setup tarball in future i guess [11:00] ah wait i remeember why i didnt do that [11:00] * debian/*mozilla*: Removed. [11:00] that was mikes last entry in changelog we have [11:01] apr. 21st entry [11:01] gnomefreak: there is nothing in that which would influence how the tarball looks like [11:02] and actually we don't have that change synched to bzr afaik [11:02] it is in changelog from bzr so i assumed we had that change [11:02] where? [11:02] https://code.launchpad.net/~johnvivirito/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x [11:02] not there [11:02] no mozillateam one [11:02] https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x [11:03] not there either [11:03] its just in the debian branch [11:03] https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/iceape/debian-1.1.x [11:03] but we don't have those changes [11:04] anyway ... even if we would have them it doesn't matter for the orig.tar.gz [11:04] its just that the mozilla transition package is gone in debian [11:04] ok let me try it after moving mozilla === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] yep [11:04] it should work === ranf [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-186-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.221] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:19] asac: while your here. installing the nspr and nss -dev packages wanting to remove firefox and friends has now made it to a bug. its a liferea bug. is there anything we can do about that? [11:20] asac: bug 98725 [11:20] Launchpad bug 98725 in liferea "[feisty] liferea crash with undefined symbol PR_NewMonitor" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98725 [11:21] gnomefreak: that bug is something different [11:21] its not reproducible for some [11:22] asac: if you look at it he comments about it [11:22] asac: installing libnss3-dev and libnspr4-dev will want to remove the -0d and ffox and friends packages [11:22] and/or [11:24] its fine for us but if someone wants to compile it, to be on safe side they would have to make chroot or lose alot of important packages. one of the comments mentions that in that bug [11:24] fairly sure that is the bug [11:24] looking [11:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liferea/+bug/98725/comments/36 [11:26] Launchpad bug 98725 in liferea "[feisty] liferea crash with undefined symbol PR_NewMonitor" [Medium,Unconfirmed] [11:27] its backwards the way he put it but either way installing the lib will remove hte -dev installing the -dev will remove alot [11:32] gnomefreak: we cannot bother for that [11:32] if they install libnspr4-dev all should be fine [11:33] only libnspr-dev and libnss-dev might cause problems? [11:33] or? [11:33] if not it doesn't matter anyway :) [11:33] one or other [11:33] now that firefox is transitioned it should not happen anyway anymore [11:33] install either one of them you lose ff and everything else including yelp, evo === koke_ [n=koke@14.Red-88-26-177.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:34] you will loose all apps that have not been respun so far [11:34] bug 75279 [11:34] that is the main bug that i remember [11:34] Launchpad bug 75279 in xulrunner "Installing libnspr4-dev removes many packages related to firefox" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75279 [11:35] thats so old it shouldn't matter anymore [11:35] and its from xulrunner [11:35] ill test it later to make sure its gone in gutsy but i think it is still there === pochu [n=emilio@10.Red-83-59-168.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] thats one of the reason i have gutsy chroot in a gutsy main sys [11:37] gnomefreak: if you have up-to-date gutsy firefox should not be removed anymore [11:37] maybe evo needs respin [11:37] that bug above has nothing to do with xulrunner though [11:37] it has [11:37] will test [11:37] libnspr4-dev was provided by xulrunner [11:37] thats why it was filed against xulrunner [11:37] (see ubotu output) [11:38] i just closed it [11:38] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nspr/+bug/113091 [11:38] Launchpad bug 113091 in nspr "libnspr4-dev broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [11:38] newest one [11:38] but that is u-d package it removes [11:39] updating gutsy chroot (will let you know about this and when i-a is done uploading [11:39] yes === Hanusz_Leszek [n=Hanusz_L@21.225-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hanusz_Leszek [n=Hanusz_L@21.225-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:39] all packages that depend on libnspr/libnss need a respin [11:41] took the bug 113091 [11:41] Launchpad bug 113091 in nspr "libnspr4-dev broken" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113091 [11:50] Is there some way to request that MOTUs review a package on REVU, or should I just shut up and be patient? [11:51] orion2012: ask them to please review it and post link with comment [11:51] gnomefreak: can you please use version to 1.1.1+ubuntu1-1 in mozillateam repo and make it ready for release? [11:51] gnomefreak: in here or on the REVU mailing list? [11:51] orion2012: example: can someone please review [11:52] orion2012: here [11:52] gnomefreak: thanks [11:52] gnomefreak: we need a different upstream version as our tarball is not exactly the debian one [11:52] asac: for iceape in gutsy? [11:52] yes [11:52] Will some additional MOTUs please take a look at gconf-cleaner (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5103). Thank you. [11:53] respin with that version instead of iceape_1.1.1-3ubuntu1 [11:53] gnomefreak: yeah ... or use 1.1.1+ubuntu1-0ubuntu1 :) [11:54] i guess we need the latter so no automatic merge is tried [11:54] aeh sync i mean [11:54] 2 ubuntu in one version? [11:54] upstream tarball version is ubuntu specific + package revision is ubuntu so no sync is tried [11:54] not sure if the latter is needed [11:55] but it won't hurt [11:55] 1.1.1+ubuntu1-0ubuntu1 == version you want in gutsy? === gnomefreak never have seen that before [11:55] yes :) [11:55] i guess noone patches the debian orig tarball :) [11:56] ok ;) [11:56] ok lets use 1.1.1+u1-0ubuntu1 ... to not make it too confusing [11:56] k [11:57] just check the version change to bzr [11:57] i will upload from there [11:57] if i kill my upload would i need its peices removed? [11:57] no need for revu :) [11:57] gnomefreak: yes [11:58] better keep it going [11:58] revu == easier tha bzr :) can you take from revu and ill push to bzr little later in afternoon? its still early here [11:59] dunno ... revu takes ages ... bzr just a few seconds [11:59] either way i have to respin it [11:59] gnomefreak: no ... just change latest version and push that to bzr ... no respin needed. If things fail i will come back === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:01] asac, gnomefreak: maybe make it a native package? 1.1.1ubuntu1? === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:01] hey guys....howz it going [12:01] native? why that? we have an orig.tar.gz ... though it contains some branding info [12:01] ah, ok [12:01] I've broken a kde app....I need to change config options....where are they stored? [12:02] asac: btw, if your package have a -3ubuntu1, it won't be synced [12:02] I can't load it anymore to get access to said options [12:02] s/have/has/ [12:02] pochu: yes, but our orig.tar.gz is different [12:03] from debian ones [12:03]