firecrotchDragnslcr: There may be issues with environment variables and such, I'm not really sure.12:16
SanneDragnslcr: when you check "run as different user" you don't need to put in a username, as running as root is default.12:16
Daisuke_Idoi'll be back, have to get laundry in the wash before they close12:16
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DragnslcrSanne- thanks, I'll just do that. Seems to give the same prompt as kdesu12:17
SanneDragnslcr: I run konqui and kate like that, works fine so far.12:17
DragnslcrSo how about fixing Firefox? (in case you missed it: I installed MonoDevelop, and apparently it decided that Firefox would look better as a Gnome app instead of KDE. Anyone know how I can change Firefox back to using KDE's rendering libraries?)12:18
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firecrotchDragnslcr: That's an odd issue.  (side question: How is MonoDevelop?)12:18
firecrotchI'm used to using Visual Studio for writing VB.NET apps12:19
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DragnslcrIt's pretty good. Couple little things I like in VCS Express better, but I'm sure MonoDevelop is still being improved12:20
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DragnslcrCurrent version doesn't support breakpoints, but I think the next version will12:22
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firecrotchDragnslcr: I'm not very familiar with Mono, but as I understand it, it will allow me to create programs that work in Windows using .NET and in Linux?12:22
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DragnslcrMono is pretty much just a Linux version of the .Net libraries and VM12:23
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DragnslcrI believe it should be able to run .Net apps compiled in Visual Studio. If not, you just have to use Mono to compile a separate version12:24
GrahamIs there any way to get WMA support in Amarok or would I need to get non-official packges12:24
firecrotchDragnslcr: Alright, thanks.  I'm installing Mono and MonoDevelop now to play around with it12:25
firecrotchDragnslcr: I'll let you know if I get that same problem with Fx from it12:25
DragnslcrI really like C#, which is why I like Mono so much12:25
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DragnslcrGraham- KMenu -> Add/Remove Programs -> Others -> Ubuntu restricted extras12:26
DragnslcrThat should include all of the media formats and such12:26
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GrahamDragnslcr: You're damn right it should!12:28
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GrahamI had to install extra files for MP3 to work.12:28
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DragnslcrGraham- the specific package might be libxine1-ffmpeg12:29
DragnslcrI'm not certain it'll work for Amarok. I've only tried wmv's on Kaffeine12:29
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GrahamAnd it worked with that package?12:31
CVirusHow can I select my login manager ?12:31
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DragnslcrIt worked with the restricted extras, which I think is actually something like 15-20 packages12:33
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DragnslcrYou can try just libxine1-ffmpeg and see if it works. I couldn't find wmv or wma themselves in Adept12:34
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rubikcubefound the icon bug :-)12:41
rubikcubethe file /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/10-usb-music-players.fdi has a wrong entry... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/8332712:42
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intelikeyhow do you parse variables out of an array ?    ${ary,#}  ?12:45
DragnslcrIn what language?12:46
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intelikeyDragnslcr bash12:49
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DragnslcrDunno, sorry. I don't think I've written more than 5 lines of bash12:50
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intelikeyi got it.   ${ary,[#] }       i was forgetting the [] 12:51
intelikeythat's about how mant lines of array parsing code i've written in bash     about 5 maybe.12:52
DragnslcrThat looks a bit ugly to me. Even worse than Perl12:53
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intelikeyyeah    that may be why i never used arrays...    ary=(something "something else" another "some more something") ;echo ${ary,[4] }12:55
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jcobrerosCan anyone help me? I dont know how to set up the KDE taskbar to only show apps in the active desktop, no the other three. Im using kubuntu 7.04 + beryl12:55
firecrotchjcobreros: It's not possible, AFAIK12:56
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firecrotchjcobreros: Beryl uses virtual desktops within one KDE desktop, so to the KDE taskbar, they're all on the same desktop12:57
klaus_i am back, with edgy eft ... dvd works fine :-)12:57
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jcobrerosohhh. thats what it looked like, but i wasnt quite sure. thank you firecrotch12:57
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firecrotchjcobreros: you're welcome :)12:58
klaus_does anybody know from wich source i get lsdvd ?12:58
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stdinintelikey: ary,? (why the comma?)12:58
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intelikeystdin ah  an oversite.   i wasn't using a comma in my script....   ;/01:06
intelikeyhehhe   oh well.01:06
stdinwas just wondering :p01:06
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Black_Maskwhat does 'exiting on signal 15' mean?01:08
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stdinmeans the app got a SIGTERM01:09
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Dragnslcrfirecrotch- in case you're wondering, my Firefox theme is only messed up when I use the special key on my keyboard. It works fine if I open it through Quicklaunch or the KMenu01:09
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backherozzociaop ragazzi01:10
klaus_hello, which is the right sources.lst-entry to get mplayer-nogui ?01:10
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backherozzoc' qualke italiano all'ascolto?01:10
facugaich!it > backherozzo01:10
Hirvinen!it | backherozzo01:10
ubotubackherozzo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:10
firecrotchDragnslcr: Alright, I can't test that since I don't have special keys on my keyboard (stupid laptop)01:11
backherozzoi speak english01:11
facugaichdo I need sun-java6-source to build java apps?01:11
firecrotchbackherozzo: how can we be of assistance?01:11
Dragnslcrfirecrotch- yeah, it's weird, because ps lists it as /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin both ways01:12
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backherozzoyou are very polite01:12
firecrotchDragnslcr: That's quite... odd01:12
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Dragnslcrfirecrotch- yeah, no kidding01:14
azzcoHi I need some help here... I messed around with beryl and ended up deleting my .kde directory in home, now apt doesn't work01:14
Daisuke_Idomy head now hurts.  someone was boasting about his small 5gb install of xp >_<01:14
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Daisuke_Idohow does messing around with beryl lead to deleting .kde?01:14
firecrotchDragnslcr:  Maybe ask about it in #firefox on irc.mozilla.org01:14
Dragnslcrfirecrotch- hm, works fine now. I just set the action for the key again01:15
DragnslcrReally bizarre01:15
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driniis it possible to get kernel 2.6.21 from some repo? if so, what hsould I add to sources.list ? (I want to use pwoertop , but it needs NO_HZ and CONFIG_TIMER_STATS, both disabled on default 2.6.20-15 kernel)01:15
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DragnslcrMust have been something cached weird in KeyTouch or something01:15
firecrotchDragnslcr:  yeah01:15
azzcoDaisuke_Ido: it was complaining about composite being in use and I read that kde could be the problem...01:15
DragnslcrI'm just glad I got it fixed. The Gnome/GTK rendering was butt-ugly01:16
GrahamCould somebody PLEASE tell me what I have to do for WMA support in amarok?01:16
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facugaichdo I need sun-java6-source to build java apps?01:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:16
azzcoGraham doesn't win32codecs work?01:16
DragnslcrOne of those links might help, Graham01:16
Grahamazzco: Where? it's not in the repo01:17
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azzcoIT should be a thirdparty repo01:17
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GrahamSuch as?01:17
azzcoSearch for medibuntu with google01:17
GrahamNo it's too slow.01:17
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:17
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GrahamWhat other third party repos can I use?01:19
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GrahamI found some, installed w32codecs and amarok crashes when it tries to play them!01:22
stdinGraham: this page tells you how to install w32codecs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs01:22
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facugaichdo I need sun-java6-source to build java apps?01:23
azzcookay so my apt complains about deb in sources.list... does anyone know how to give it a "definition" or something?01:23
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facugaichis it no or yes?01:24
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stdinfacugaich: you only need the jdk, the -source is for compiling jave itself01:24
facugaichok, thanks01:24
peyotefacugaich: dont think so. you need jdk01:24
GrahamCrashed again.01:25
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GrahamFuck it, it's shit. I'm going.01:25
stdinooh, some one is cranky today01:26
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IvivI have a problem installing kubuntu on a hp nx 6110 laptop01:28
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Iviv it installs ok, but on first reboot I get an "Error loading system.." error. I have no idea what to do and google didn't return any results. Could anyone help me find a solution?01:28
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Ivivdrini? :D01:30
driniis it possible to get kernel 2.6.21 from some repo? if so, what hsould I add to sources.list ? (I want to use pwoertop , but it needs NO_HZ and CONFIG_TIMER_STATS, both disabled on default 2.6.20-15 kernel)01:30
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drinithat ;)01:30
scanmanselam trk var m01:30
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jttIviv,  you there01:41
BluesKaj!tr | scanman01:41
ubotuscanman: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.01:41
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jttIviv, you want some help on your problem01:42
scanmanok ok inallah gireni olurda yardm alrz.01:42
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williams294Hello everyone....I'm having trouble upgrading from 6.10 to 7.0401:44
williams294I'm trying to use the CD to upgrade01:44
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williams294the ubuntu site says the gksu command wont' work if I don't install it....but I don't know how to install it01:45
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david2_anyone what?01:45
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williams294_I'm trying to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 using the CD01:45
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jttwilliams294_,   apt-get install gksu  will install it01:46
scanmanDier odada kimse yok-dvdrom almyor iine giriyor ama almyor,iindeki dvdyide okuyor nasl halledeceim01:46
BluesKajwilliams294_, sudo apt-get install gksu01:46
williams294_I did that, it said it was already installed01:46
jttwill=should install it01:46
david2_I am too tired to think01:46
david2_I just ran 3 miles01:46
williams294_let me double check01:46
facugaichis NetBeans 5.5 supposed to not work in Kubuntu + Beryl?01:46
williams294_OK yes, says it's at the newest version already01:47
jttdavid2_, running is not allowed on this channel :)01:47
david2_Why bwouldn't it?01:47
david2_Ban me my job requires it... ARMY01:47
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jttwilliams294_, are you upgrading to  ubuntu or kubuntu01:47
david2_Aint like I can quit01:47
williams294_I'm on Kubuntu 6.10...I have a Ubuntu 7.04 CD in the drive01:47
williams294_that's a problem isn't it?01:48
jttwilliams294_, believe you have to change desktops first then upgrade01:48
williams294_ahh ok01:49
williams294_I'll give that a try, thanks01:49
jttwilliams294_, also have you read the instructions on using the CD as the upgrade sourece01:49
williams294_I have thanks01:49
jttwilliams294_, good luck01:49
williams294_it says you just need to run a command, and it'll pop up01:49
williams294_thanks bye, I'll bback if i does not work01:49
A_bQuestion. - i burnt a kubuntu live cd - my roommate wants to find out if it will drive her computer - will this cd drive the machine? not sure of how live cds work :)01:50
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jttA_b, just have your roomate boot the cd it will not touch the existing OS oh her machine01:52
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A_bokay thanks - will it give me access to internet to see if eth is working etc??01:53
jttA_b, should if you dont have any funny ethernet cards01:54
flakeI have two drives, each has a partition but I have to enter a password when using the File Browser before they show up on my desktop - do I have to mount the partitions to be able to see them right off?01:54
A_bok thanks - it is pretty generic i think01:54
jttA_b, yes should work on 95% of most x86 arch out of the box01:55
flakeI used that ntfs- tool to find each harddrive primary partition01:55
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A_bjust do it :) hahhaa01:55
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jtt!ntfs |flake01:55
ubotuflake: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:55
jtttime to eat dinner01:57
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david2_need to look up CAC readers for linux01:59
david2_I doubt there is support for such a thing01:59
mahdi_dependency question: when it says "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" what is it referring to?02:02
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creadorcreativomahdi_: sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev02:04
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intelikeyi need some regex help.   how to turn \n^\t  into null ?02:10
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dealer_Is there some way i can reset my root password ? I actually forgot it :802:12
Daisuke_Idoyou shouldn't have one02:13
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intelikeydealer_ yes.    there is.   if you have root jr. access   sudo passwd02:13
intelikeydealer_ also the default would be   sudo passwd -dl root02:14
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dealer_dealer@BAMF:~$ sudo passwd -dl root02:15
dealer_Password changed.02:15
dealer_dealer@BAMF:~$ su02:15
dealer_su: Authentication failure02:15
intelikeywhy are you trying to use su with a locked root password ?02:15
intelikeydon't use su02:15
dealer_what to use then ?02:15
intelikeysudo -i02:15
intelikeyor if you must use su    sudo su -02:16
dealer_thanks alot m802:16
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intelikeysame results from both ^02:16
intelikeyi would actually sujest not using root jr.   but they gripe at me for that....02:17
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intelikeyclearification    they = ubuntu staff02:17
sl00Hi. Is there a way to add all the applications on www.getdeb.net into the Adept Manager?02:17
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intelikeythat would  NOT  be supported by ubuntu.02:20
intelikeyis it possable, yes probably.02:20
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sl00Why would not adding another repository to the Adept Manager be supporteD?02:21
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Daisuke_Idoit's not even set up as a repo, just a selection of a few applications02:22
mc__sl00: he probably meant that that the packages wouldnt be supported02:22
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Daisuke_Idonot really enough to worry about making a repo for.02:22
sl00Hmm Ok02:23
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sl00Well I downloaded Pidgin from Getdeb. But when I right-click and select 'Install package' it starts but then it says I am missing dependencies. Do I have to manually install the dependencies or can I have it do it automaticly?02:23
intelikeythat's why it's not supported   ^02:24
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DragnslcrAnybody know offhand what command is run and/or file is altered when you set monitor power saving in the system settings?02:25
sl00Maybe so but I can still ask for help on how to get it working can I not?02:25
intelikeynon-ubuntu repos tend to cause problems with ubuntu systems.02:25
intelikeysl00 sure you can ask.02:25
sl00Is there any ETA on Pidgin for the *ubuntu repos?02:26
crimsunsl00: it entered gutsy several hours ago; it may be backported soon.02:27
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intelikeysl00 as to the dependancy issue.    one can install a non-supported .deb  via dpkg -i path/to/packagename.deb    then after it finishes    apt-get install -f      <<< all as root of course.    that should pull in the deps and finish configuring the package.   but if it fails it may cause even more dependancy problems.   so it's  NOT supported.   don't blame the team if you hose your box with such.02:29
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sl00intelikey: Ok. Thanks. I will wait instead.02:30
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RictooHow do I start xserver in terminal again -.-'02:32
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Rictoothanks :D02:33
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intelikeyif all you want is the server   X02:34
intelikeyor   X &02:34
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intelikeyif you want the server and an ENV of some sort then startx is good for the default ENV    or X & sleep 7 ;export DISPLAY=':0' twm    <<<< for twm   name your poison.02:37
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semistud2354im trying to install beryl on my laptop...it has an ATI Radeon Xpress 200m, 64-bit...and of course im using feisty...any suggestions or websights?????????02:38
goathello everyone..  I have a fresh install of kubuntu on a dell laptop with an ati9000 mobility video card02:38
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goatI have a similar thing to semis02:39
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intelikey!ati | semistud235402:39
ubotusemistud2354: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:39
semistud2354goat....you tryin to get beryl too02:40
goatwell  I already have beryl installed02:40
goatjust doesn't work correctly02:40
goatinstalling beryl is the easy part02:40
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goatI am just having troubles with the drivers as I am on holliday02:40
goatmy home machine works great02:41
wolferineati or nvidia?02:41
goatand I am LOVING Kubuntu02:41
goatI am more of a KDE guy02:41
goatATI mobility 900002:41
wolferineah, too bad02:41
goatnot nice  =P02:41
goatwolferine  will I have little to no luck with my OLD ati 900002:42
goatI mean.. I can wait till I get home to try again on my ATI 9500 PRO which is a great GREAT card02:42
semistud2354yea i have to say that kde is better02:42
goatI already have it working on my nvidia 6800 at home02:42
goatwell  I am coming from  a world of BSD02:43
goatand have always KDE'ed02:43
semistud2354but im having trouble trying to get this 200m driver installed/working02:43
goatme likes PCBSD too02:43
goatsemistud..  you going through the faq they just linked us too?02:43
goatI am about to run through it02:43
goatand if all goes ok I will let ya know02:44
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goatjust because I am new to linux / *ubuntu does not mean I am new to *nix and CLI02:44
goatI am BSD   CLI is my buddy02:44
semistud2354im semi new....some ppl that give help here...they work for kubuntu02:44
semistud2354or the company behind kubuntu02:45
goatwell  let me run through the doc they linked us to02:45
goatand I will let you know how it goes for me02:45
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goatif I can't follow these instuctions02:46
goatI should be shot  =P02:46
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semistud2354yea im lookin at that 202:46
semistud2354it says something about going in and selecting ati accelerated drivers02:47
semistud2354i dont get that02:47
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semistud2354kubuntu doesnt have that02:47
goatgrr  I just hit some dependancies02:47
HerziHello peaple02:47
goattime for fun  =P02:47
semistud2354whats it on kubuntu02:48
goatwow  I suck02:49
goatshoot me02:49
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goatI am fixing those up02:50
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goatguess I broke an earlier install of java and firefox02:51
goatas soon as its fixed I will move on02:51
goatsorry for the delay02:51
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semistud2354you trying to figure out how to get the driver for 200m02:52
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goatbut I gotta cycle the box02:53
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A_bI tried the kubuntu live cd and couldn't get to boot on roommates computer so burning another cd - could this be non compate ?? or just a write error ?? I am hoping for a burn error :)02:55
semistud2354im trying to install beryl on my laptop...it has an ATI Radeon Xpress 200m, 64-bit...and of course im using feisty...any suggestions or websights?????????02:55
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FunnyLookinHatI know everyone probably asks this... but has anyone tried the new KDE4 alpha with Feisty?02:57
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goatsorry  my neighbor here on holliday knows I am on his wireless and he keeps kicking me off02:57
goatI told him I would help him secure it TOMORROW before I leave  LOL02:58
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FunnyLookinHatgoat, just secure it with WEP... you can crack that in like 5 minutes with AirSnort02:59
FunnyLookinHat; )02:59
sl00AirSnort only works on a small range of devices tho.03:00
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goatnah  I will help him for real...   I didn't have to tell him I was borrowing...  but I am a nice guy03:01
goatand the internet at the place I am staying is to be fixxed next week..  AFTER i leave03:01
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goatand I assure you I will write down and keep his key in case03:01
goatas I will be back next year too03:02
goatVA Beach USA03:02
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goatits a pretty place03:02
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goatactually a place to the south called Sandbridge..  its nice and secluded03:03
goatbut they have FIOS here too03:03
goaterr he does03:03
goatok  back to task03:03
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goathrm  I don't seem to see the "restricted driver manager" in kubuntu03:05
goatas per the afor mentioned faq03:05
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goatand as for airsnort  I dunno if it will work with my dell 1350 wireless chip03:06
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goatSemistud...  do we have to do this the edgey way ?  does Kubuntu not have the restricted driver manager?03:10
Daisuke_Idokubuntu does not have the restricted driver manager per se03:12
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Daisuke_Idobut video drivers and the like are available in Add/Remove Programs (adept installer)03:12
semistud2354o srry03:13
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semistud2354it does03:13
semistud2354restricted drivers are in the same place...but they changed it03:13
semistud2354shocked me too03:13
semistud2354im trying to find out how to get my 200m card to work with beryl03:14
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goatuh.... uhm   "restricted drivers are in the same place...but they changed it"  elaborate...03:15
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semistud2354i cant find them03:16
semistud2354wheres the restricted drivers...03:16
semistud2354for ubuntu its like in system settings03:16
semistud2354but im not sure were it is in kubutu03:17
mahdi_whats the name of the qt header and footer libraries?03:17
Daisuke_IdoAdd/Remove Programs03:18
Jucatomahdi_: libqt3-mt-dev for Qt 3 Headers (there are not footer libraries)03:18
Daisuke_Idounder System03:18
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Daisuke_Idoit's NOT the same as the restricted driver manager, but it is a quick way to install video drivers03:19
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Daisuke_Idovery perceptive :)03:20
Daisuke_Idowhy is it that whenever there's a split, someone has to actively mention that it's happening even though everyone can see it?  it happens everywhere, and i don't know why03:20
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Daisuke_Idoheck, i've even done it03:20
pollyoWhen you go to select files for upload with firefox does it show thumbnail pictures?03:20
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Daisuke_Idolet me find out, but i don't think so03:21
Daisuke_Idonot here it doesn't03:21
semistud2354does anyone have a radeon 200m card, that has beryl installed03:23
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Any idea if Konqueror will?03:23
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goatwell  poop  I already added them through aptget03:24
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goatnow if I do it with addremove it automagically starts using them ?03:24
Daisuke_Idosince konqueror uses kde file dialogs, i would imagine it can be set to show thumbnails, at least thumbnail icons03:25
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pollyoDaisuke_Ido: I'll find out just as soon as myspace allows me to request my password.03:26
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el_ismaHello! I've found a bug, i've tried #ubuntu-bugs but nobody answered me. My Xorg server is leaking memory (300M+ after 1 day) but I don't know how to provide useful information for solving the bug. I suspect it either has to do with xorg 1.2 or with nvidia-glx-new (or both?). What should I do?03:27
Daisuke_Idodid you report it on launchpad?03:28
crimsunel_isma: does the memory return after a restart of X.org?03:28
el_ismaDaisuke_Ido: No, I don't have enough info for it to be useful, I guess03:28
el_ismacrimsun: Yes, it does03:28
crimsunel_isma: if it does, then it's not X.org but a client.03:28
el_ismacrimsun: ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't restart the whole x-server?03:29
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crimsunel_isma: it kills the X server.  Whether it's brought back up is up to a script.03:29
crimsunyou have a misbehaving X Window System app, most probably03:29
el_ismacrimsun: If I do that, I get the ram back.03:29
el_ismacrimsun: How do I find out?03:30
crimsunel_isma: valgrind your X apps used03:30
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goatwell  I show beryl running03:31
goatno wiggles and jiggles03:31
el_ismacrimsun: I've got no experience with valgrind. Any pointers?03:31
goatbut i have been distracted by the family a bit here03:31
rcrookhi all, just been following a thread on launchpad about the texas instruments card reader problem. there was mention of s patch kernel. I was wondering how I can get the pre-released patched kernel?03:31
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sl00What do I need to play Xvid/AC3 files with Kaffine/Amarok?03:32
crimsunel_isma: the manual.03:32
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el_ismacrimsun: I've also found a similar bug report in gentoo's forums. They said that xorg version +1 and -1 didn't have the bug. And that the bug wasn't nvidia specific. I don't know if it really was the same bug I've got.03:33
semistud2354is it possible to run berl on a radon xpress 200m with feisty03:33
purpleposeidonel_isma: 0xf32ab203:33
el_ismapurpleposeidon: Very old joke. :)03:33
Daisuke_Idosemistud2354: if you use fglry, possibly, but as a rule, ati isn't that lovely03:34
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Daisuke_Idoflgrx...  fglrx...  something like that03:34
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goatwell  I have beryl launch   but I have to walk the artist out  be back in about 15 minutes03:35
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semistud2354i had beryl working on edgy03:36
semistud2354if that means anything03:37
dealer_how do i install *.deb files?03:37
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el_ismadealer_: rigth click on the file, look for a menu entry03:37
rcrookdealer_: dpkg -i <file>03:37
semistud2354some websits tell me to do something in "restricted drivers"03:38
semistud2354but thats in ubuntu03:38
dealer_didnt get anything up on 'man deb*03:38
semistud2354im using kubuntu03:38
el_ismasemistud2354: install restricted_manager package. It shows up somewhere in the menu. Run it and it will install those restricted drivers03:38
el_ismaI really don't get why Kubuntu doesn't include restricted_manager by default! :(03:39
donutmanhi can someone tell me how to reset the password that i use to get into administrator mode?03:39
el_ismadealer_: try "man deb"03:39
rcrookdonutman: in the shell window type "passwd"03:40
goatI just now did the add remove programs and added the ati GL drivers03:40
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goatlemme cycly the machine and see how goes03:40
donutmanok i did that  but it says conversation with su failed03:41
sl00Does not anyone kniw what I need to play Xvid/AC3 files with Kaffine/Amarok?03:41
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el_ismathat's an anti-netsplit?03:41
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el_ismathat's an anti-netsplit!03:42
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dopehow do i set a user account to where he doesn't need root access to modify files in a certain directory03:42
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lisan-al-gaibdope: make that user part of a group that only they are a part of then just modify it to only allow members of that group03:44
dopehow do I do that?03:44
dopei'm not familiar with groups03:44
lisan-al-gaibyou can go to system settings > User Management > groups03:45
sl00What do I need to play Xvid/AC3 files with Kaffine/Amarok? (I repeat due to the splits)03:46
lisan-al-gaibswitch to administrator mode, add a new group, make a new user, then add him to taht group03:46
n4zgulhello people, someone can help me with a simple question? what i make for the konqueror dont get the current web page symbol for the taskbar/?03:46
dopelisan-al-gaib: i don't have a gui03:46
donutmanwhen i type my correct password to get into administrator mode it tells me "conversation with su failed"03:46
lisan-al-gaibdope: well then, let me think for a second03:46
dopei did the addgroup command03:46
dopeso I have a new group i believe03:46
lisan-al-gaibdid you add a user as well?03:47
dopethere's no users in the group yet03:47
el_ismacrimsun: Looking through the launchpad bugs I've found the problem: Flash leaks memory! I've closed the window that had flash running and Xorg is back to 50Mb! :D --Stupid flash!--03:47
dopeunless it puts some in there by default03:47
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lisan-al-gaibdope: it does not, but have you created the user you want to add to it yet?03:47
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semistud2354i have restricted manager installed...its a termanal program03:48
semistud2354or something03:48
semistud2354theres no gui03:48
semistud2354how do you run it in the konsole03:48
ismael_semistud2354: It should be a gtk program :|03:48
lisan-al-gaibi believe if you just use "sudo adduser ::insert user here:: ::insert group here::" it shuold add that user to that group03:48
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semistud2354its a picture of a python03:49
semistud2354for the icon03:49
semistud2354so...im guessing its a konsole thing03:49
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semistud2354lol...i even reinstalled it03:49
dopelisan-al-gaib: even if i've already created the user?03:49
lisan-al-gaibdope: yes, you need to add him to that group as well03:50
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dopewhoa i just had a power sag03:51
dopeok done03:52
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dopeso the user is in that group03:52
n4zgulhello people, someone can help me with a simple question? what i make for the konqueror dont get the current web page symbol for the taskbar?03:52
lisan-al-gaibdope: have to read up on chmod, thats the command to change permissions03:53
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dopehow do I know if the user is actually in the group?03:53
lisan-al-gaibdope: under CLI? not sure, i'll see if i can find that out while i'm at it03:54
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carutsuhello, does anyone know if thunderbird 2.0 is on backports?03:55
carutsu!info thunderbird203:55
lisan-al-gaibdope: you have w3m or some other text browser?03:55
ubotuPackage thunderbird2 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:55
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dopei'm on a windows machine using ssh to get to the server03:55
Jucatocarutsu: for which ubuntu release?03:56
lisan-al-gaibdope: ah-ha, now makes more sense03:56
carutsuJucato: Feisty03:56
lisan-al-gaibdope: http://catcode.com/teachmod/03:56
Jucatocarutsu: so far nothing yet03:57
carutsuJucato: sorry?03:58
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Jucatocarutsu: nothing in backports or updates03:58
Admiral_Chicagocarutsu: its not03:58
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carutsuJucato, Admiral_Chicago weird, shouldnt it?03:59
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago would know best :)04:00
sl00Hmm. My sound is not working. What should I do ?04:00
carutsuAdmiral_Chicago: I think I'll have to compile myself04:00
ubotusl00: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:00
Jucatocarutsu: I'm guessing that 1) it's already being packaged and 2) it's just waiting to get approved and then backported04:00
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carutsuJucato: wow, ok, ill wait a bit, although it's been some time since it hit the gold status04:01
flakehow do i add item to kmenu04:01
Jucatocarutsu: um... make that 3) it's already in Gutsy, just waiting to be backported04:01
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carutsuJucato: thank you xD04:01
Jucatoflake: right-click on the K Menu icon and select Menu Editor04:01
carutsuflake: add what>04:01
carutsuflake: nevermind, just obey Jucato04:01
flakeahh cool  ty04:01
Jucatocarutsu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/mail/mozilla-thunderbird04:02
Admiral_Chicago well considering 1.5 is a stable release that is still getting security updates. It also does not meet the requirements of backports.04:02
flakewine ~/games/SimCity4/Apps..   :)04:02
Admiral_Chicagotoo many dependency issues imo04:02
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging04:02
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carutsuAdmiral_Chicago: mmm, so they dont include them unless is really needed?04:02
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n4zgulwhat can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?04:03
Admiral_Chicagothe requirements are at the bottem04:03
carutsuAdmiral_Chicago: ok04:03
carutsuAdmiral_Chicago: if I'm _downloading_ updates, i can safely close adept, right?04:04
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Admiral_Chicagocarutsu: no04:05
carutsuAdmiral_Chicago: eh? no? so i gotta wait for it?04:05
Admiral_Chicagono if the updates come through adept that is04:05
dealer_can i run a *.run file ?04:05
dealer_i've just downloaded latest ati driver, and it's an *.run file04:05
carutsuAdmiral_Chicago: mmm, i *must* turn off my pc now04:06
carutsuAdmiral_Chicago: well i should pray then, xD04:06
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Admiral_Chicagocarutsu: there is a way to recover from it...04:06
sl00carutsu: That information was for Gnome tho. I have done what they said with the Applications I have installed. Still nothing.04:07
carutsusl00: have you tryed Kmix volume?, how about alsamixer?04:07
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Jucatocarutsu: as long as it hasn't started installing (just downloading), it's practically safe to stop it04:08
sl00carutsu: Heh. Yes ofcourse04:08
sl00carutsu: Everything looks fine and I have all volumes at 100%04:08
carutsuJucato: that's what i thought, i was scared to hear that04:08
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NininaHow would I go about installing NDISWrapper and making it run on start up?04:09
carutsusl00: sorry to /hear/ that xD, no well i mean it, i'm not by any means good at sound04:09
carutsuwell i should leave now04:09
carutsusee you all around04:09
n4zgulsee ya04:10
n4zgulsee ya04:10
n4zgulwhat can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?04:10
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dopei cannot seem to change this directory's group to a different one04:13
dopei've punched in every command i've found on the web04:13
arkanabarWhen gnome was default desktop, I had an option menu on the login screen that let me choose session type.  Now that KDE is default desktop, that menu is gone.04:14
dopei just want to change a directory to a different group so I don't need root access to modify anything04:14
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WillLuongoHow can I find out what version of the kernel I have from the command prompt?04:15
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peyoteuname -a04:16
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n4zgulwhat can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?04:16
WillLuongopeyote: thanks04:17
sagemattHey guys, since I'm on dialup I downloaded the required packages for ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop at a friend's house, but now I need a way to install all those packages. Any suggestions?04:17
dopeburn to cd04:17
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peyotedpkg -i packagename.deb04:18
arkanabarsagematt:  copy packages to CD, and then add that CD to your custom repositories.04:18
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sagemattpeyote: it gave me too many errors04:18
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peyotesagematt: maybe you dont have the dependent packages04:18
sagemattarkanabar: can I just burn then, without the need for any special directory tree?04:18
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peyotececk dependencies....04:19
sagemattpeyote: I do, I did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop on a clean install, and saved the packages04:19
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arkanabarsagematt, never done it, just seen that it's possible to put a CD into list of repositories04:19
sl00Can someone help me get my sound working? I have tried everything I can think of. I have unmuted everything and set volumes to max on everything in 'alsamixer'. In KMix everything is att max aswell. Sound ystem is enabled in the 'Sound System - System Settings'.04:19
sl00Please help.04:19
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dopei just want to change a directory to a different group so I don't need root access to modify anything04:19
familiaanyone has time to help me?04:19
familiai'm new with linux (kubuntu)04:20
arkanabarFamilia, just ask your questions.04:20
familiaand i downloaded firefox, but i don't know how to install it04:20
peyotedope: man chown04:20
familiaits a .tar.gz file04:20
arkanabarfamilia, you should use synaptic, aptitude, or apt-get to install packages.04:20
familiay have kubuntu dapper drake04:20
sagemattarkanabar: It doesn't seem to be that easy. Remember that ubuntu cds use a very specific directory index for packages.04:20
intelikeyfamilia why did you do that ?04:20
familiai tried to use aptitude04:21
familiaand i don't hace synaptic04:21
arkanabarsagematt, never done it, just seen that it's possible to put a CD into list of repositories04:21
familiaand my kubuntu is updated04:21
intelikeyfamilia sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox04:21
n4zgulsomeone can help me? what can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?04:21
dopei've used chown and chmod and chgrp and none of it works04:21
peyotesabakas1: yes i think to use the cd as repository you have to make sure it has a certain structure04:22
dopeit's the /var/www diretory does that matter?04:22
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familiathanks, i'm going to try that04:22
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ismael_sagematt: Look for aptoncd. Never used it, but I think it does what you need.04:22
Sebasciican anyone tell me the difference between a "shell" and a "linux console" ?04:23
familiaIT WORKS AHAHAH04:23
familiaLOL THANKS04:23
peyotedope: chown username.groupname dir04:23
A_bQuestion - i burnt the live cd and it came out in german is there eng version? It works so not really concerned but would like to do kopete with keyboard that makes sense :)04:24
familiadoesn't shell is the vista console?04:24
peyoteSebascii: is there any? I use the terms synonym....04:24
intelikeySebascii sure    the linux console is the real vt/tty running in kernel land.  the shell is the command intrepter running both within the console and also with terminal emulators like konsole gnome-termanal xterm eterm aterm rxvt and others04:24
A_bkeyboard didn't function in us english04:25
sagemattNevermind, found it: 2.2 How to use APT locally: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html <-- It's a pain in the ass, though04:25
Sebasciiintelikey: could you give me an example please? wich difference could i found if i execute a command in shell or console?04:25
intelikeySebascii to access a "console"  press  alt+ctrl+f1    use alt+f7 to return to the console in which your xserver is running.04:26
intelikeySebascii is that example enough ?04:26
Sebasciiintelikey: There's an applet in kde that gives you a shell option and a linux console option (and python interpreter, root shell, etc)04:26
ismael_Sebascii: Konsole?04:27
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intelikeythe "linux console option"  i assume is a misnomer.04:27
n4zgulsomeone can help me? what can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?04:27
Sebasciiintelikey: I cound't find any difference, but for the font color04:27
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Sebasciiismael_:  the two option opens a konsole04:27
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intelikeySebascii did you press alt+ctrl+f1 ?04:28
Sebasciiismael_: but with different profile04:28
_johnhey there04:28
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Sebasciiintelikey: yes...04:28
intelikeyand it took you to a "linux console"   no?04:29
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Sebasciiintelikey: have you tried the terminal sessions applet?04:29
intelikeyas i said.   the thing in the kmenu is a misnomer.04:29
familiahow do i install drivers for a nvidia geforce fx 5200 in kubuntu?04:30
intelikeythey all go to a konsole terminal emulator.   not to a console.04:30
_johnim given john a hand here and it turns out that this kubuntu thing is too much for him to deal with so we'd like to turn this box into a dual boot. currently only kubuntu is installed on the whole drive (a 30g HDA)  where can I find info to take the steps to resize the drive and make it a dual boot with (cringe) XP ?04:30
Sebasciiintelikey: so the only difference is the font color? weird... :S04:30
intelikeySebascii yes.  i've seen the konsole idea of a "linux console"   it's still just a terminal emulator.04:31
Sebasciiintelikey: so the profile is the same?04:31
sl00I cannot get my sound working! I have tried what I can think of and what is said @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems ... but nothing works. Here is my ALSA-info: http://pastebin.ca/488579 .. Can someone please help me out?04:31
Sebasciiintelikey: thanks :)04:31
intelikeySebascii i don't know.     close enough to same that i didn't notice any differance.04:32
A_bSo Kubuntu is there an english version of Kubuntu livecd??04:32
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intelikeyA_b yeah.04:33
peyote_john: take a look at gparted maybe04:33
A_bcan i get a link Please :)04:33
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A_bthanks - intelikey :)04:34
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_johnpeyote: thanks, that should partition the drive but is it possible to get xp to not overwrite the boot sector and wipe out grub?04:36
intelikeyi hear you knocken but ya can't come in....04:36
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sagemattalright, I'm never doing dpkg -i *deb again. It was silly...04:37
intelikey__john   according to that output you should have sound.04:38
intelikeydid he leave ?04:38
intelikey_john   according to that output you should have sound.04:38
_johndarn i figure I should still upgrade from last years kubuntu by first running all updates from adept. but when I select fetch all updates it wont select any packages to actually update.04:38
hitmanWillysagematt: now downloading 5,000,000,000 files04:38
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_johnintelikey: do you mean some other John ? i did not ask about sound04:38
intelikeyyeah __john04:39
intelikeyi think he left04:39
sagematthitmanWilly: Well, yeah, lots of broken dependencies, but I always download the LiveDVD so it'll only download 6MB on packages (lol)04:39
_johnwell what about isntalling updates before doing the full upgrade? is it nescesary or can it be skipped?04:39
hitmanWillynever mind, dpkg, not apt :)04:40
hitmanWillyapt-get install *, that would be fun04:40
intelikeysagematt why was   dpkg -i file    silly ?04:40
familiai instaled firefox just like you said04:40
familiait worked04:40
familiabut where does it instaled?04:41
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sagemattintelikey: it tried to install everything in alphabetical order, without checking dependencies first.04:41
familiawhere i can access it?04:41
Daisuke_Idofamilia: kmenu > internet04:41
sagemattintelikey: I had like, 300MB on packages.04:41
familiais not there04:41
intelikeyfamilia  look in the   kmenu > network04:41
n4zgulsomeone can help me? what can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?04:41
hitmanWillyfamilia: or "firefox" from terminal04:41
intelikeysagematt and you follow the -i   with  dpkg --configure -a ?04:42
familiaroot@familia-desktop:~# firefox04:42
familia(firefox-bin:17427): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:04:42
intelikeysagematt and maybe a   apt-get install -f    for some missing deps.04:42
sagemattintelikey: I ended up with broken dependencies anyways. apt-get -f install is taking care of that.04:42
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sagemattfamilia: alt+f2 then firefox and hit intro04:43
intelikeysagematt and yes it is the "hard" way to install.  but can be used.04:43
sagemattfamilia: or maybe mozilla-firefox. I don't remember.04:43
sagemattintelikey: yup. thanks anyways.04:43
hitmanWillyits just firefox04:44
hitmanWillytho that may be alink to mozilla-firefox04:44
intelikeyhitmanWilly you sure ?    version didn't change from 6.6 ?04:44
_johnok so I found /etc/debian_version but where do I check the kubuntu version id04:44
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intelikey_john  lsb-release -a04:45
_johnwell its kde 3.5.304:45
hitmanWillyintelikey: just tested it out04:45
intelikeyhitmanWilly you have 6.6 ?04:45
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.04:45
hitmanWillyerrr, misunderstood, but yeah, used to work on that too04:45
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intelikeyhitmanWilly ah  ok.04:46
_johnok its 6.06 dapper04:46
familiai've been trying for weeks to install the damn thing04:46
_johndo I have to do updates before upgrade all? or can I jsut do upgrade all?04:46
eeanI have some messed up iptables... how to rever them to the default?04:46
intelikeyfamilia and it took two minutes with the right command....04:46
sagematthey guys, so I install ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop, now how do I switch desktops?04:46
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hitmanWillysagematt: session select from kdm or gdm04:47
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intelikeysagematt at the login screen04:47
familiaits has been a real pain for me to found useful instructions on the net04:47
sagemattintelikey: good, thanks04:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about comiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:47
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sagematthitmanWilly: alright, thanks04:47
intelikeysagematt there is an option in the menu on some DE's04:47
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:47
familiabut where is the "firefox.exe" or whatever located?04:47
familiato make it appear on the menu and the desktop04:47
hitmanWillyfamilia: /usr/local/bin iirc04:48
intelikeysagematt blackbox for one lets you switch without logging out.04:48
agn0sticfamilia: which firefox in a terminal will tell you04:48
familiawhat is the command?04:48
sagemattintelikey: yes but that's because blackbox is just plain awesome.04:48
agn0sticfamilia: which firefox04:48
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:48
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agn0sticfamilia: literally, type "which firefox" into a terminal04:49
intelikeysagematt it's only one example.   twm also and fluxbox    i think xfce4  but not sure on it.04:49
agn0sticfamilia: on my machine, firefox is in /usr/bin04:49
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sagemattintelikey: alright, kdm or gdm?04:50
intelikeyhitmanWilly hmmm what flavour ?   i've never noticed any such issue04:50
intelikeysagematt for ?04:50
intelikeybut short answer   gdm04:50
sagemattintelikey: well, I just installed ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop, I want to know which is best04:50
intelikeykdm writes in /root/  by default.04:50
hitmanWillyintelikey: just whatever it is in the repos, don't rightly remember the version #04:50
intelikeysagematt use   gdm04:50
sagemattintelikey: alright will do04:51
hitmanWillyintelikey: might have been in my graphics settings tho04:51
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intelikeyhitmanWilly maybe...04:51
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hitmanWillydon't know, just firefox would get MASSIVE dialog box flicker under it04:51
n4zgulsomeone can help me? what can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?04:51
hitmanWillyother than that, i loved it...04:52
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intelikeyok that's why i never saw it.   i don't like ff and thus avoid it.04:52
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sagematt<intelikey> ok that's why i never saw it.   i don't like ff and thus avoid it. <-- Infidel!04:53
intelikeyhitmanWilly any clues on the konq question by n4zgul ?04:53
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familiahmmmm in my pc its on the same directory04:54
hitmanWillynot really, not much of a konq fan/experience04:54
familiaits not an "executable"04:54
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n4zgullol, think that i will continue using firefox then04:54
familiawhen i double click on it it just ask what program should i use to open it04:54
Mr_Sonomaanyone have any problems with installing mjpegtools? when i try to run dvd-slideshow it says i need mjpegtools04:54
intelikeyfamilia ?    firefox   in ~/  ?04:54
hitmanWillyfamilia: when it asks for the path to the cmd, just type in firefox, that'll work04:55
Mr_Sonomabut when i try to install the tools it says that its a broken package?? any ideas on a work around? or another prog?04:55
agn0stichitmanWilly: the full path shouldn't be giving familia any issues either04:55
hitmanWillyfamilia: its set up in the $PATH variable, so you don't need to type the whole thing out04:55
intelikeyn4zgul i like konqueror but i'm not an icon/fan/user   and the whole pointy clicky thingy, is kinda,,, not used much here.04:56
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hitmanWillyok, fair, but i just said "try" :)04:58
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esunderanyone know why kde windows are opening UNDER other windows05:00
familianow i made it05:00
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familiabut the file was located in usr/lib/firefox05:00
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intelikeyesunder set to open in the background ?05:01
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hitmanWillyfamilia: the executable binary shouldn't be there, that's where lib files are usually kept05:01
intelikeyin konqueror's settings05:01
n4zgulintelikey: ty for the help man05:01
esunderits not just konquerer...05:02
n4zgulim going, see you all budies05:02
intelikeyhitmanWilly actually hitmanWilly you better go look.  lots of things are hiding their executables there.05:02
agn0stichitmanWilly: it is, check it. I don't know why the bin is there too....05:02
agn0stickinda silly05:02
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intelikeyn4zgul gooday05:02
hitmanWillythat's weird...and stupid...05:02
intelikeywell i agree  but it's still true05:02
n4zgulgood night intelikey(here in brazil is midnight)05:03
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familiabut again thanks for helping05:03
hitmanWillythere's a more or less standard dir structure for a reason...05:03
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agn0sticunfortunately it's not very well followed05:03
intelikeyfamilia but there should be a symlink in /usr/bin/  or /usr/local/bin  that points to the executable     symlink or shell wrapper05:04
hitmanWillyno kidding05:04
familiatype:     shell script05:04
familiai copied it to the desktop05:04
familiaand it worked just fine05:04
intelikeythere ya go05:05
hitmanWillyfamilia: that works :)05:05
agn0sticfamilia: shell scripts are generally "executables", all files in linux have the capability to be executables, if that clears things up at all.05:05
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=== intelikey still thinks the easy way would have been kmenu > network > firefox <<< right click drag to desktop drop select make link here
familiadidn't know that05:06
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intelikeyor to task bar   or where ever.05:06
david2woohoo solved samba problem05:06
familiahey, anyone here knows how to work with fortran IV05:06
familiao where i can get it05:06
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intelikeyg77-2.95 - The GNU Fortran 77 compiler05:07
intelikeygfortran - The GNU Fortran 95 compiler05:07
intelikeygfortran-4.0 - The GNU Fortran 95 compiler05:07
intelikeyrepos man repos05:07
david2the internet super daemon was using port 139 so samba couldn't05:07
intelikeyuse the package manager luke05:07
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jamesis anyone good with ssh?05:08
intelikeywhy does ^l clear my consoles  ?05:08
intelikeyjames ! i  but ask anyway.05:09
familiabut its same that fortran IV05:09
familiabecause my father used to program in fortran IV and he asked if i could get it05:09
agn0sticfamilia: http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/ is a pretty thorough explanation of linux basics, if you want to take the time to go through it05:09
jamesi have a silly university firewall05:09
intelikeyfamilia i don't know.   i'm not a code monkey.  :)05:09
familiabut something as close to the original05:09
jamesand I want to go through it!05:09
familiahaahaha lol05:09
jamesthere is a computer called kenny05:10
jamesbut to get to kenny05:10
jamesI have to ssh into zeus.uwe.ac.uk05:10
jamesthen while on zeus05:10
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jamesI have to ssh into a computer called milly05:10
intelikeyjames ssh proxie tunneling    out of my league.    maybe Jucato knows  :)05:10
jamesfrom milly i can ssh into kenny where my stuff lies!05:10
jamescool thanks05:10
agn0sticjames: just using ssh again from the terminal on zeus doesn't work?05:11
jamesi'm not sure05:11
jamesi did something from mine like05:11
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jamesssh -l user -L 7000:zeus.uwe.ac.uk:22 zeus.uwe.ac.uk05:12
jamesthats opens a tunnel so now if i connect from my computer05:12
jamesssh -p 7000 localhost, i can log on to zeus05:13
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jamesbut i need to make a tunnel that goes from my computer through zeus, then through05:13
jamesmilly and then on to kenny!05:13
jamesi think its not too simple!05:13
agn0sticjames: tunnelings something im not too familiar with. you could in theory, ssh user@zeus to get a terminal on it, and then do the same to milly, kenny, whatever. Probably not the best solution though05:14
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jamesyeh i can do that, which is grate05:14
sagemattthanks for your help, you are all a bunch of fine chaps05:14
jamesbut just wanted to try and open a tcp tunnel05:14
jamesdirect to the end05:14
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jamesthanks man105:15
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jameshow do i register? silly question!05:17
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration05:17
intelikey/msg nickserv help register05:17
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earth_wormjimSSH tunneling anyone?05:19
esunderanyone know why all of my windows are opening UNDER other windows05:19
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strabeswhat's a good kde chess game?05:21
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hitmanWillykchess? :)05:21
anthonyq123anyone has full version lg3d?05:21
intelikeyesunder i'm sure it's in the setting someplace.    alt+f2 type: kcontrol05:21
intelikeyesunder i don't know exactly where tho05:21
intelikeystrabes xboard05:22
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esunderi know, i looked but it didnt seem to work05:22
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esunderfound it, it was there intelikey, but it was also in beryl...05:23
intelikeyesunder works on 6.6   that's all i know.05:23
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esundergood to go now, thanks for your help05:23
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intelikeyesunder ah beryl    yeah there is a channel for that too05:23
esunderhehe, i thought it was a kde thing, all apps were doing it05:24
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haydenWhen I first ran kde it had a first time wizard. How do I run this again?05:25
intelikeyseems like 80% or the questions are either howto *beryl or    the answer is beryl caused it.05:25
intelikeyhey genii   how is ya ?05:26
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geniiintelikey Lately, tired LOL and only the laptop to use, my tower fried05:26
intelikeyyou loaded beryl on it didn't you ?05:27
intelikeysorry to hear that it crapped out on ya tho05:27
geniiintelikey Nah, my agp port broke off from metal fatigue05:27
intelikeythe metal got tired....05:28
stdinshould have given it coffee05:28
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geniiyeah from bending a little evry time I put/pulled ram in there. So finally... wham05:28
geniistdin Hi :) Yeah might have been a more spectacular fire05:29
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stdinmy tower has a old intel gpu so that wont break when I install more ram05:30
os2macanyone try to run a pcmcia smart card reader on Kubuntu yet?05:30
geniiAt least I got a nice contract at the end I'll get my every-five-year new box05:30
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stdingot a new laptop tho :)05:31
intelikeywish i had a box less than 5yo05:31
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stdinit's the newest hardware I own05:31
intelikeyos2mac i havent  but describe your issue anyway    maybe someone will have a clue by four to whack you with   :)05:31
geniios2mac I have a usb one that works. No pcmcia tho05:32
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geniistdin I'm tempted to mail you a motherboard05:32
haydenWhen I first ran kde it had a first time wizard. How do I run this again?05:33
intelikeykde-first-time  ?      not sure of the name...05:34
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os2macjust trying to get it working05:34
hitmanWillykde-setup maybe?05:34
stdingenii: I'm thinking I need to do a "real" upgrade soon, most of the components are over 5 years old05:34
intelikeyyeah maybe   kde-setup05:34
Jucatohayden: kpersonalizer05:34
haydenJucato: thanks05:35
sl00The resolution 1400x1050 does not show under System Settings -> Mointor & Display. How do I fix it so I can change to that resolution?05:35
intelikeyJucato does that do all the setup or just the personal info ?05:35
Jucatointelikey: just the look and feel setup05:35
geniistdin If you need 4 sticks of 133 ECC ram (512 each)lemme know. Thats what I was plugging in when it fried05:35
beataI'm having some icon size trouble with Feisty. Heh, also with a 1400x1050 display.05:35
intelikeyJucato oh   it doesn't do the personal info...    odd the name is deceptive05:36
geniiI think kde-setup05:36
beatasl00: laptop / LCD panel?05:36
Jucatointelikey: not really. it personalizes your desktop05:36
sl00beata: Laptop.05:36
stdingenii: my tower mobo has 2 slots, it currently has 1x1GB and 1x512MB05:37
intelikeyi guess kuser is what i'm thinking of huh ?05:37
hitmanWillysl00: you need to edit xorg.conf and add the res in05:37
beataRight. What hitman said.05:37
hitmanWilly!xorg | sl0005:37
ubotusl00: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:37
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Jucatointelikey: yeah, maybe. user management05:37
sl00Ok. THanks05:37
sl00I thought there were an easier way :/05:37
stdinsl00: or rerun the setup "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"05:37
geniistdin It used to be ECC ram was good LOL05:38
dopehow do I give a directory write access05:38
intelikeystdin there you go p'ing high again05:38
hitmanWillydope: chmod05:38
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dopei seem to be messing up the syntax05:38
stdinintelikey: I always p high :)05:38
beataAnyway, I would like to resize the 'system tray' icons but there doesn't seem to be a setting for it.. except for two apps.05:39
stdindope: chmod +w /path/to/dir05:39
geniidope It depends if this is a dir you mounted or just a regular dir. If mounted, then add ser"as a mount option.Otherwise use the chmod as suggested05:39
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doperegular dir05:39
intelikeydope  sudo chmod 755 /dirname/      or 777 if you want world read/write access05:39
geniidamn my quote plus u seems to produce a foreign char05:39
dopedoes it have write access?05:39
intelikeyyes for owner05:39
intelikeyit's 75505:40
dopebecause when i do mkdir without sudo it says permission denied05:40
hitmanWillydope: that means root owns the dir05:40
intelikeyok you want world access   or you want to own it05:40
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beataAnd also I was wanting to enable speedstep on this machine. It's a mobile P3 laptop.05:40
intelikeydope it's not a system dir is it ?05:40
dopeit's a dir that i'm trying to access via ftp and I can't do anything to the directory through ftp05:40
dopeit's /var/www05:40
geniiAh, ftp/www are different05:41
intelikeyi don't think you want to change that.05:41
dopei can look at the files when I ftp in but that's it05:41
intelikeyyou want to setup the ftp server to allow access05:41
dopewhich is useless05:41
stdintalk to the person/support team that runs the server05:41
dopeit's me :|05:42
hitmanWillyyou could add your user to the www group, that might work05:42
stdincan't you shh in ?05:42
geniiyou should put a ftp dir somewhere not in /var/www   then set the ftp root in the conf file05:42
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yamathanEr, how are multi-core processors handled in the latest version of Ubuntu?05:42
intelikeystdin maybe i'm wrong but i think he's local.05:43
stdinyamathan: automatically05:43
yamathanIn the old days there was a linux-kernel image for SMP, but now all I'm seeing is load-bearing stuff.05:43
yamathanWell, that's quite a feat!05:43
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hitmanWillyyamathan: its compiled straight in05:43
stdinyamathan: the -generic kernel has SMP built in05:43
geniidope adding the user ftp to the www group is not a bad workaround actually05:43
yamathanWell, where the Hell have I been, then?  XD;;;05:43
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yamathanHere I thought it was just really fast for one core!05:44
intelikeyhitmanWilly is it or is it in the initramfs ?05:44
yamathanIs there any particular load-bearing daemon that would help improve efficiency?05:44
stdinintelikey: no, built in to the kernel05:44
hitmanWillyintelikey: last time i ran make menuconfig on the kernel it was set as built in05:44
dopeawesome, works now05:44
intelikeystdin hmmm    k05:44
intelikeythat's one reason for the bloat05:45
yamathanOh, uh, this may be the wrong channel to ask in, but I'm trying to survey my wireless security.05:45
hitmanWillyintelikey: just recompile if it bothers you :)05:45
intelikeydoesn't apply to me.05:45
hitmanWillyahhh, k05:45
yamathanI hear quite a bit about airsnort and aircrack, has anyone had luck getting it to work with an Intel 3945 chipset?05:45
stdinintelikey: basically the kernel looks to see howmany cpu's/core's you have and sets itself up accordingly05:45
intelikeystdin yeah it looks like a job for the initramfs though.05:46
yamathanOr should I just try backtrack or another security-focused distro?05:46
geniiyamathan when using cli top you can hit 1 to show load for cpu0 cpu1    etc05:46
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yamathanThanks, genii.05:48
nilesacroread is not in apt-cache search05:48
geniiyamathan:  np05:48
yamathanI also notice that apparently the aircrack and airsnort channels are more or less dead.05:48
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dealer_I just downloaded a *.bz2 file, and 'man bz2' dont work. anyone got any good links for me ? so i can read up on bz205:48
geniiI think there has been little development on them for a while now unfortunately05:48
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Jucatodealer_: a *.bz2 is a bzip2 archive05:49
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intelikeydealer_ you can always look on   tldp.org05:49
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hitmanWillydealer_: use gzip05:49
stdinniles: no, it's not in the repositories anymore, because it would be illegal for it to be. you'll have to download/install it manually (or just use kpfd)05:49
hitmanWillythat will handle bz2 archives05:49
nileskpdf sucks becuase you cant copy/paste text05:49
Jucatoniles: er.. you can05:49
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Coldwar55Is there a way to change fire fox embedded video players if I have multiple ones?05:49
stdindealer_: man bunzip205:49
nileslets see05:50
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geniiyamathan The last entries on the airsnort homepage for instance are from Dec 200405:50
esunderwhat is the <Super> key?05:50
Jucatoniles: you need to choose the Selection tool in the toolbar (beside the scroll and zoom icon)05:50
hitmanWillyesunder: aka windows key05:50
Jucatoesunder: usually the Win key05:50
stdinesunder: the win key05:50
ChicoryHmm ...05:50
esunderhow can i test if its workin?05:50
ChicoryThanks, genii.05:51
intelikeyesunder in a console   showkeys05:51
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geniiChicory You may want to try some other tool like nmap05:51
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nilesthanx fellaz05:51
intelikeynmapfe is handy05:52
stdinesunder: has to be run in a REAL console, ie: press Ctrl-Alt-F1 (or F2-6)05:52
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genii<-- coffee break, back in 5 or so05:53
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kane_what would yall suggest for creating a streaming music server?05:55
geniiices or ices205:56
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geniiices does mp3 natively, ices2 is native ogg05:56
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kane_not in apt.05:57
kane_such is life.05:57
geniilook for icecast05:57
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kane_ahahaaaaa it is.05:58
kane_its insane how much better and easier installing software is under most linux systems than it is on linux05:59
doctorowHey there -- I just installed Kubuntu on a clean Feisty system, using Synaptic. When I reboot, I see the Kubuntu splash-screen. However, it boots into Gnome as usual. When I try "sudo kdm" from a Terminal, I get a black screen, but nothing else05:59
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ChicoryHmm ...05:59
ChicoryOh well, it's time for bed over here.05:59
stdindoctorow: you have to choose kde from the menu05:59
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stdindoctorow: the one that looks like an retern key (IIRC)05:59
ChicoryI mean, yes, it's for security, but it would have been fun to see just how flimsy my system is.05:59
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doctorowstdin: you mean the menu on the login screen?06:00
stdindoctorow: the menu ON the login screen06:00
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doctorowstdin Thanks, I'll try that!06:01
stdin^ word i was looking for06:01
vbgunzhow do I get the UUID of a drive for fstab? CanI?06:01
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)06:01
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stdinvbgunz: sudo blkid06:01
geniistdin Something weird with my quote key.06:01
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leohi everybody06:02
leogot a question about pen drives...06:02
vbgunzstdin: thank you very much!06:02
geniitesting quotes:  quote a "b quote b "c "d  "f "g "h  "j "k "l "m "n  "p "q "r "s "t  "v "w "x  "z06:03
leodoes anyone know kingston mini migo pen drive??06:03
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stdingenii: is your meta key stuck or something?06:05
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geniinvm I have wrong default keyboard installed for this laptop06:05
geniistdin I just caught what it is actually LOL06:05
geniileo I'm not familiar with that manufacturer, but most pen drives or usb drives will get recognised as SCSI devices eg: /dev/sda /dev/sdb     and so on06:07
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mofo-xHey guys.06:10
BertoHi - when i click on Administrator Mode in the System Services section, it doesn't pop up a password prompt!  how do i get it?06:10
Carnage\Can I add samba users when they don't have a corresponding system account?06:10
geniiCarnage Short answer is yes06:10
robotgeekCarnage\: i think there is a smbusers file or somthing06:11
Carnage\genii: And how do I do that?06:11
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Carnage\I tried "smbpasswd user" as root but that doesn't work06:11
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mofo-xAnyone know of a reason why I can't get past detecting hardware, it takes like 5 minutes to get to 6% and then hangs on loading module trm290 for IDE chipset support.06:11
geniiCarnage\:  Try "man smbpasswd06:11
Carnage\genii: Read that already06:11
Carnage\It just states that smbpasswd -a per default requests the user to be a system user06:12
Bertois there a good doc on getting USB drives to automount in kubuntu?   mine don't work06:12
geniiIt should be something like smbpasswd -a user06:12
genii(add user)06:12
geniithen -e06:12
Carnage\Note that the default06:12
Carnage\          passdb backends require the user to already exist in the system password file (usually /etc/passwd), else the request to add the user will fail.06:12
geniifor enable06:12
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geniiI'm pretty sure that id if your smb.conf is setup that all samba users must map to a unix system user06:13
Carnage\genii: -e gives me "Can't find the user"06:13
Carnage\Hmm, I'll take a look at the file06:13
geniiman smb.conf  is also enlightening06:14
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geniiif you change it then do testparm to check syntax06:14
Carnage\genii: Starnge, it tells me there:06:15
Carnage\# "security = user" is always a good idea. This will require a Unix account in this server for every user accessing the server. See /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/Samba3-HOWTO/ServerType.html in the samba-doc package for details.06:15
Carnage\;   security = user06:15
Carnage\But it is commented out...06:15
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geniiI usually have security=share which is more how windoze is setup natively06:15
stdinyeah, I have it set to share too06:16
Carnage\Okay, I'll try that06:16
stdinyou can still restrict certain shares too06:16
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geniiThe manpage for smb.conf is extremely long and detailed.Most anything you really want to set can be found there06:17
Carnage\Okay, then thanks for your help so far :)06:17
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geniistdin I'm some kind of Luddite LOL06:17
stdinswat = samba web administration tool06:17
Bertois there a good doc on getting USB drives to automount in kubuntu?06:18
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robotgeekBerto: it should automount automagically06:18
Bertorobotgeek, "should"06:18
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robotgeekBerto: what does dmesg tell you, when you plug it in06:19
Bertorobotgeek, i must be missing some necessary service06:19
Bertorobotgeek, the device is /dev/sdc1 and works fine mounting manually.  I'm just sick of doing that for the past 10 years06:19
robotgeekBerto: i know, lemme see06:19
stdinautomount needs HAL and DBUS afaik06:19
geniilikely you have multiple usb mass-storage things and you need to specify some UUID or similar in the fstab for it to know which is which06:19
Berto[39198.160422]  sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdc\06:19
Bertorobotgeek, sdc is being found -- i think KDE/linux are not running the right services (hal?  gnome-volume-manager?)  to automount it06:20
robotgeekBerto: definetly not gnome-volume-manager06:21
geniisounds like some usbfs issue06:22
geniiWhich dist you have?06:22
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robotgeekBerto: i dunno why it doesn't work, hal.conf in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf might have answers06:23
Bertokubuntu 7.0406:23
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robotgeekBerto: only if you are experienced, that is.06:23
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Bertorobotgeek, yeah well experienced enough to know how to manually mount and not care to spend 8 hours on this anymore06:24
Bertooh well thanks06:24
robotgeekBerto: sorry, happened to me once, but it fixed itself06:24
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robotgeekBerto: this bug report is interesting, might help? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/10209706:27
robotgeekBerto: pmount is the next best thing, i guess06:28
Bertothanks robotgeek !06:28
stdinor pmount-hal06:29
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robotgeekthere apparently is also "usbmount" which might help, Berto. However, you should file a bug. It is not acceptable not to have devices not automount :)06:31
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geniiThere seems a few posts on this subject06:34
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geniihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2580033#post2580033     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=430842&page=2    for a couple06:34
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RictooWhat's a really fun game I can play?06:38
RictooI'm bored :\06:38
RictooNo, I don't want toplay SuperTux :D06:38
Rictooor sudoku -.-06:38
stdinfrozen-bubble ?06:38
RictooNot that either :(06:39
snarkhunterTyping of the Dead?06:39
RictooSomething that's filesize is larger than 10mb06:39
Rictoostdin What's that?06:39
stdin!info stratagus06:39
Rictoo!info stratagus06:39
ubotustratagus: realtime strategy game for Unix and X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-9.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 563 kB, installed size 1328 kB06:39
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stdinit's quite a good game too06:40
geniifrozen bubble is addictive06:40
stdinbased on WarCraft II06:40
snarkhunterthat what used to be called FreeCraft?06:41
stdinget the stratagus-gl package06:41
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stdin!info freeciv06:42
ubotuPackage freeciv does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:42
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snarkhunter!info freeciv-client-gtk06:42
stdineww, gtk06:42
ubotufreeciv-client-gtk: Civilization turn based strategy game (GTK+ client). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-3 (feisty), package size 381 kB, installed size 1020 kB06:42
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RictooHmm, could I play a flight simulator with only a keyboar?06:43
RictooDo you think a Radeon 9200 128mb is good enough for it?06:43
stdinsnarkhunter: and, yeah. it was freecraft (according to wikipedia)06:43
snarkhunterI had many hours of joy with a keyboard and decent 106:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smartcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
RictooDo you think a Radeon 9200 128mb is good enough for it?06:43
snarkhunterfor what is essentially warcraft 2?06:44
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stdinsnarkhunter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warcraft_II:_Tides_of_Darkness06:46
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snarkhunterpoint was that a radeon 9200 is 10x what you need for a game that came out in '95 :)06:49
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Ichhi, is there a bot in here?06:52
Ichoh, nevermind06:53
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:53
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Ichhow do i set a static ip address on a LAN?07:00
robotgeekIch: K-Menu -> System Settings07:00
dr_willishmm.. use that network configuration tool.07:00
robotgeekNetwork Settings07:01
geniicli : edit /etc/network/interfaces    after studying man interfaces07:02
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RictooThis might be odd, but if I have 2 seperate gfx chips (one onboard, one a card), could I plug a monitor into both of them and have a two monitor display?07:04
geniiYes, so long as you have entries for each card in your xorg.conf file07:05
RictooSPLAIN PLS07:05
RictooHow would I do that? :O07:05
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RictooHow would i have 2 entries?07:05
stdinit would have to be 2 separate X displays tho07:05
stdin*I think07:06
dr_willisIts very doable. :) if you want to do some larning07:06
Rictooi'm not good enough at linux :(07:06
dr_willisgentoo wiki pages have a large # of examples..07:06
geniiRictoo 1 minute I'll try to find you some example. You need to know what your cards are and what pci address they are on as well07:06
dr_williswhat are your video cards however?07:06
RictooI might want to do some learning :\07:06
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Rictoogenii, err07:06
RictooI have no idea07:06
RictooActually, lspci should do it, right?07:06
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geniiRictoo:  If at commandline you type: lspci   it should say some stuff about what video and other cards you have actually07:07
stdinlspci|grep VGA07:07
geniiAlso the results of dmesg  are useful to know what exact PCI:XX:XX:XX to use07:08
Rictooactually I think I disabled my onboard chip from the bios07:08
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RictooI'll enable it after this flight simulater is done downloading XD07:08
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Rictoostdin, if I enable my onboard chip, and then I do lspci, will Linux see that chip alongside my main card?07:09
geniiIf onboard is set as default video you may need to plug a monitor into that one07:09
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genii(until you get both entries in the xorg file)O07:09
stdinshould do07:09
Rictoogenii, so i should plug a monitor into both chips?07:09
geniiRictoo If you have 2 monitors, not a bad idea. Then you will know which is being the default07:10
RictooActually I have one CRT, one LCD07:10
RictooIt will be interesting OO07:10
geniiRictoo Do you know exactly what type/make/model the 2 cards are?07:11
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Rictoogenii, I'm not sure about the onboard one07:11
genii(this makes it easier to find some sample entry for the xorg.conf file)07:12
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RictooHow would I find it out? :\07:13
RictooOh, the internet L:D07:13
RictooBy the way, thanks for the help <307:13
geniiHave fun and good luck :)07:13
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RictooOnboard chip: "S3 UniChrome Pro"07:14
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Rictoogenii, any luck? :p07:16
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell07:17
geniiRictoo lemme look that one up07:18
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead07:19
RictooThanks stdin07:20
geniiRictoo: Looks like some VIA centric S3 card07:21
stdinthat isn't a great howto07:21
Rictoostdin, that howto doesn't cover 2 different chips :\07:21
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stdinthe link at the top of the page is what you want07:22
semistud2354can someone tell me a good image program...07:22
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semistud2354i want to do that thing where it looks like a pencil drawing07:22
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Rictoostdin, the BinaryDriverHowTO?07:23
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stdinno, http://www.paralipsis.org/2006/01/enabling-xinerama-in-ubuntu/07:23
semistud2354anyone know a good image program that allowes you to do a pencil drawing effect07:24
geniiRictoo From what I can tell, the vesa driver works for this card but only for 640x480 and if you want to have full range of resolutions for it, you need to get an OpenChrome  S3 driver installed.07:25
RictooTHANKS STDIN <307:25
Rictoogenii, ok, thanks :\07:25
geniiRictoo What dist you have ? eg: dapper edgy feisty07:26
semistud2354does anyone have any experience with image programs07:27
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geniiRictoo Yup, thats the one you need07:27
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geniiYou want to backup your xorg.conf file before you start messing with it (insurance)07:29
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stdinwhy would the howto have "sudo echo "drm" >>/etc/modules" when that won't work?07:30
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geniiYeah weird /etc/modules should be instead /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:32
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stdinno, it should go in /etc/modules07:32
stdinbut the >> /etc/modules won't work07:32
stdinneeds 'echo whatever | sudo tee -a /destfile07:33
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geniiAh right, sudo weirdnesses over pipes etc07:34
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Rictoowill apt-get resume if I stop the download right now?07:34
Rictooctrl+c ? xD07:35
geniistdin /etc/modules is right tho? I figure you should put the video subsystem stuff as sub-entries in xorg for whatever reason07:35
Rictoobrb guys, gonna try to hax my video chips07:35
stdingenii: you do, but it needs to load the kernel module too07:36
geniiah, ok07:36
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richardcan some one help me my KTorrent is about as stable as soduim it crashes like every hour.07:39
richardI ran it in the terminal to see whats up but I cant understand the error message.07:39
ses1959_question on wine I have wine install and using the interface but how do i make the program install after adding to windows applications system settings07:39
robotgeekrichard: what is the error message?07:40
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richardrobotgeek: Qt: Warning: QGArray::at: Absolute index 0 out of range07:40
stdinses1959_: I don't understand your question07:41
robotgeekrichard: i dunno what that means, sorry07:41
richardThats ok, ill just install another bit torrent client, although this one looks good and downloads ok.07:42
xlinux_richard.. use bittornado07:42
xlinux_its really bada**07:42
ses1959_installed wine from ubuntu and under system setting clicked on wine and have windows  applications and picked the application i wanted07:42
richardOk ill try that thanks.07:42
xlinux_yup yup07:42
ses1959_but now need to install the program to work07:42
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richardIf I get a ATi card would it be better than my 64 mb intergrated intel drivers ?07:43
richardI dont have much ram and Im guess its using my ram as video memery.07:43
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stdinses1959_: ahh, open konsole and cd to the place you have the .exe, then type "wine myapp.exe", or just use Wine File (in Utilities) and double click it07:44
Rictoogenii, stdin: I got the onboard chip enabled, and I plugged a monitor into it07:45
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Rictoobut when I do lspci, the chip isn07:45
Rictoo't there07:45
stdinmantice: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent/+bug/10918407:46
geniiRictoo When you do just "lspci"  is there any line indicationg a VIA video device?07:46
Rictooerm, genii, how do I scroll up in shell? (I'm not in X)07:47
geniiIf onboard likely the agp then not pci07:47
geniiRictoo shift-pgup07:47
Rictoogenii, nothing :S07:47
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ses1959_thank you07:48
geniiRictoo OK, then instead of a line like PCI:xx:xx:xx in xorg.conf  it should be like agp:xx:xx:xx  where the x is likely all zeros07:48
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trippppyim trying to automate a bunch of commands but i don't know where to start. even on google.07:48
Rictoogenii, but the monitor plugged into the chip isn't even working07:49
Rictooit's not on :S07:49
Rictoo(aka no signal)07:49
RictooI'll check xorg.conf though07:49
Rictoonope, it didn't identify the card at all (nor the monitor, of course)07:49
geniiRictoo Well, it will not work automatically. You bneed 2 entries in xorg.conf. One is for the card you were using already, then the other is for the S307:50
stdintrippppy: making a script is easy, you just put all the commands in a file, all on new lines and then you can run it07:50
Rictoogenii, BUT IT ISN"T EVEN IN LSPCI! :||07:50
RictooIt doesn't even see the chip AT ALL07:50
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geniiRictoo lspci shows PCI devices07:50
Rictoobtw, how would I do lspci line by line?07:50
RictooBecause I can't scroll up ^^'07:50
geniiRictoo an AGP device will not show any result in the lspci command07:51
trippppystdin, if i have any problems can i ask for more help?07:51
stdintrippppy: yeah :)07:51
Rictoolspci | grep video07:51
Rictooreturns nothing07:51
manticestdin: look at now07:51
Rictoogenii, oh07:51
Rictoobut my radeon card is agp07:51
geniiRictoo Anyhow, you can do something like:   lspci|more    to scroll the results.07:51
Rictooand it's there07:51
Rictoogenii, ok, it's not there07:52
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Rictoobut how come my radeon AGP card shows up in lspci07:52
geniiRictoo Some AGP devices show in there if they are mapped thru the pci controller07:53
semistud2354_does anyone know any image editors that have the sketch function/ability07:53
Rictooso genii, what's the next step then? lol07:53
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stdinsemistud2354_: maybe gimp?07:53
geniiRictoo Did you backup your original xorg?07:54
semistud2354_anything smaller??07:54
Rictoogenii, yes07:54
genii1 minute my roomie gave me a plate of food07:54
RictooIs it OK if Linux didn't automatically make a new exntry for the chip in xorg.conf ?07:54
manticestdin: thanks for that I never saw that on google :/07:54
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geniiRictoo Yes, thats fine that it did not make an entry07:55
Rictooso now I should add the device?07:55
Rictooto xorg?07:55
manticeNow I just need some one to tell me what is better intel inergrated graphics or ATi 9600 card07:55
RictooBut how do I know what the BusID is? :)07:55
geniiRictoo Yes but a suitable sample should be found first for multiple cards in it07:55
Rictoomantice, the radeon by FAR07:55
Rictoogenii, 'suitable sample'?07:56
geniiRictoo the busid is what I have been saying, like PCI:xx:xx:xx or AGP:xx:xx:xx07:56
stdinmaybe "lshal | grep agp! ?07:56
Rictoolemme try =p07:56
stdinreplace !' with ' " '07:56
manticeRictoo: Thats what Id say in windoez07:56
geniiRictoo OK I'll eat some food and be around for help ")07:56
Rictooit got 'agpgart-via'07:56
Rictoostdin, it got 'agpgart-via'07:57
Rictoois that it?07:57
manticebut I herd the intel drivers are crazy good since they are opensource.07:57
RictooSo obviously the entire OS doesn't even see the onboard chip07:57
Rictoomantice, the 'radeon' driver is opensource07:57
Rictoostdin, so now what? :\07:58
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stdinRictoo: maybe if you install lshw (sudo apt-get install lshw) and look in there08:00
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Rictoorictoo@rictoo-desktop:~$ lshal | grep via info.linux.driver = 'via-rhine'  (string08:01
pinguixa todos08:01
Rictoothe info.* is the line after 'grep via'08:01
Rictoothat rhine thing, is that the unichrome chip?08:01
geniiRictoo No, rhine is a network card controller chip08:03
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Rictoook, stdin, I used lshw and it didn't see the chip either08:04
RictooSo what now.........?08:04
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RictooThis mobo doesn't like 2 gfx chips at the same time, or what?08:04
stdinhmm, are you sure the chip is enabled ?08:04
RictooLemme check again iI08:05
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geniistdin Good Q, maybe the bios change didn't take08:05
trippppystdin, are you in here much?08:06
stdinumm, you could say that08:07
stdinquite often08:07
geniiFrom what I find, the onboard UniChrome cards should be PCI:1:0:0 but perhaqps in bios needs AGP/PCI priority looked at08:07
trippppyok. i think i need to run some of the commands after sudo -s08:07
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stdintrippppy: just run each command with sudo, the user will only be asked for a password once08:09
stdintrippppy: or just run the script with sudo08:09
trippppyok thankx08:10
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trippppyi have to reboot. to try again08:11
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Rictoook, studin08:11
Rictooit is enabled08:12
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stdincheck lspci/lshw again08:12
RictooI tried not plugging in a monitor into the card, and one into the chip08:12
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Rictoobut nothing came up on the monitor of the chip08:12
Rictooso I unplugged th card, and then it worke3d08:12
Rictooit seems with this mobo if it sees a gfx card in, it ignores the chip entirely08:12
Rictoostdin, I meant it was already enabled ;)08:13
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stdinthe bios may give priority to the card then08:14
Rictooso now what? :(08:14
geniiBah I ghosted but back now08:14
stdinit's a bios issue. nothing to do with linux08:14
RictooI know08:14
Rictooso what do I do now? oO08:14
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stdinnot much you can do, unless there is a newer version of your bios out, and you can flash it08:15
RictooI'm never gonna flash my bios ;)08:15
RictooI'm too afraid =p08:15
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geniiWell, if you have nothing against swapping your cards around, you could try setting up with 1, save the xorg, pull it set up with the second, save the xorg. Then you can pull the Device parts and so on from one and add it to thye other08:15
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Rictoogenii, we already found out that the bios ignores the chip if a card is already in08:16
geniiThere may be some part in the bios too where it has somethinglike use AGP or PCI video08:16
RictooNope =p08:16
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geniiNo "Video card Priority"type section in bios? Even my old P3 had that08:17
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geniiRictoo Right now you are using the onboard?08:19
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RictooOh well, I'm off to to sleep guys, night08:19
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geniiRictoo OK, sleep well then08:19
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codonilHi, I'm installing windows using qemu, now windows detected a harddisk of 1 GB (which is the image that I made), but it wants to format this. Will this affect my ext3 partition in any way ?08:20
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Rictoo|SLPI have no idea on the answer, but I congratulate you for being careful and not just (after the accident) saying "OMG LINUX SUCKS!"08:21
fdovingcodonil: no, that will not affect your ext3 parition. it will only format the file-system on the image-file you created.08:22
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codonilok, cool. Thanks :)08:22
stdincodonil: no, it will just format the file that it thinks is a disk08:22
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webmhello 2 all08:25
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trippppystdin, when i chmod it. do i do that as sudo?08:26
stdinyou don't need to, unless it's owned by root08:27
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geniiwebm welcome08:27
webmCan you help me to find russian channel about kubuntu08:30
webmpls sorry my english08:30
fdoving!ru | webm08:31
ubotuwebm:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke08:31
makuseruhow do i extract a rar from a term that has a password? i have the password i just dont know how to enter it08:31
fdovingmakuseru: unrar x file.rar, you'll be prompted for the password.. iirc08:31
jussi01Hello all, is there a way to make only the bottom panel transparent????08:31
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fdovingjussi01: right-click -> configure panel.. -> appearance -> enable transparency ?08:32
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animimotusI have made a distri update via adapt-manager from edgy to feisty but it stay to 6 %08:36
animimotus8 hours and the update is not done....08:37
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animimotuscould I stop all and made it with command line ?08:38
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animimotusgenii: sure but I made like in the french wiki with my parents on telephone :)08:38
stdinthere is always "sudo do-release-upgrade" from the cli08:39
Rictoo|SLPI just spent about 3hr to download flightgear08:39
geniistdin You think halting dist-upgrade is viable?08:39
Rictoo|SLPto find out I get .5 fps08:39
Tired_What's different between the grub in Edgy and the one in Feisty?  Are they compatible with each other?08:39
stdingenii: hmm, don't see why not08:40
geniistdin I guess so long as he's not reverting it08:40
stdinduring the download stage it shouldn't be a problem08:41
genii!info grub edgy08:41
ubotugrub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB08:41
genii!info grub feisty08:41
ubotugrub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-20ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 370 kB, installed size 824 kB08:41
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geniiTired_: They should be compatible08:41
animimotuscan I kill all the distri-update process and relauch it in command line? what do you think about?08:42
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geniianimimotus: We seem to agree that halting it will not be too problemmatic08:42
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animimotusgenii: ok, so I must kill python too?08:43
geniianimimotus: stdin recommends from commandline "sudo do-release-upgrade"08:44
geniianimimotus: Yes, you need to kill adept as well08:44
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stdinTired_: if you want to know the exact changes to grub from edgy to feisty, it's here: http://stdin.pastebin.us/3605408:45
animimotusok to release? without a update / upgrade before?08:45
Tired_No, I just wanted to know if I set up drives with an Edgy cd, if I can copy my existing Feisty install onto it.08:46
stdindo-release-upgrade is the server/cli version of the dist-upgrade manager08:46
geniianimimotus: Since almost all apps will be auto-upgraded this is not strictly neccesary08:46
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stdinTired_: should be fine, all grub does is load the kernel in to the memory and mount the initramfs, any version should do08:47
Tired_:)  Yay!08:47
geniiTired_: Since there are no major diffs in the menu.list and basic way it works from on to next pretty safe08:47
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Tired_Saves me from having to buy Ghost08:47
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geniijust as an aside there is a linux ghost08:49
Tired_That will clone whole installs and resize?08:50
Tired_I asked here a few days ago if dd would do that, and they told me no.08:50
stdindd is just a direct image of the disk, so probably not08:51
geniiTired_:  http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/08:51
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animimotusgenii: | stdin ok a kill all python's pid but now with a  sudo do-release-upgrade I have : sudo: do-release-upgrade: command not found08:52
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Rictoo|SLPanimimotus: Try sudo do release-upgrade08:53
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animimotus$ sudo do release-upgrade                                                                   108:53
animimotussudo: do: command not found08:53
stdinanimimotus: make sure you have update-manager-core installed08:53
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animimotusstdin: thx08:56
geniianimimotus: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core   before the do-release-upgrade part08:56
fdovinganimimotus: you can also check if installing update-manager-core is usefull at all, with 'lsb_release -sc' if it returns feisty do-release-upgrade will not touch anything.08:57
geniifdoving He says is going edgy > feisty08:57
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fdovinggenii: yes, but do-release-upgrade checks http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release vs 'lsb_release -sc'08:58
fdovingif his previous upgrade attempt managed to change anything, that would fail.08:58
fdovingbut i doubt it did.08:58
fdovingas it was at the download stage.08:59
geniifdoving Ah, good to know08:59
geniianimimotus:  Is it progressing now?09:02
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animimotusgenii: yes it seems.,houra \o/09:08
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ranjanlooking for a mp3 player Wolverine ESP or cowon a2 any suggestions?09:14
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geniiranjan http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44130609:26
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amin81hi everyone!09:31
amin812 questions: 1. How do I add more language layouts to my keyboard?09:31
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amin812. How do I change my mouse pointer speed so it moves faster? I am using a laptop with a mousepad09:32
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amin81one more question: How can I play avi files? Sorry, first tme linux-user... :s09:38
fdoving!codecs | amin8109:38
ubotuamin81: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:38
nimblevlc is the easiest way09:38
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fdovingbut it's nice to have support for some codecs in the rest of the system too. even if vlc can do some out of the box.09:39
amin81nimble: where do I download vlc?09:39
nimbleto get the mouse pointer faster go to system settings>keyboard & mouse>mouse>advanced09:39
nimblejust search for it in adept manager09:39
nimblepointer acceleration controls the speed of the cursor09:40
nimblepointer threshold controls when acceleration kicks in, or if you have it on 1_n then theres no acceleration09:40
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amin81nimble: i tried to change settings in the advanced section but no difference is made09:42
tripppystdin, hey. check this out. my xplaination09:43
amin81nimble: the mouse is less important, I will figure it out later. Thanks for the help regarding that. More important, how do i add more language layouts for keyboard?09:43
nimblesystem settings>regional & language>keyboard layout09:43
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amin81nimble: Ok, thanx a lot!09:44
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vitmy built-in card reader does not work on my laptop09:49
vitwho can help me?09:50
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amin81nimble: i cannot find the vlc player??09:54
tripppystdin, hey. check this out. my xplaination http://pastebin.ca/48892309:55
nimblehmm maybe its one of the extra repositories09:55
amin81nimble: and how do I install it then? Sorry for my simple questions, I am a first time linux user.09:56
amin81nimble: cant I just add any video/audio codec package and run the videos with the standard players?09:57
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nimblevlc is just easier than messing around with codecs09:58
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amin81nimble: gotcha! thanx!!10:00
nimbleactually that doesnt seem to say how to do it in kubuntu10:00
nimblejust open adept manager then adept>manage repositories10:01
amin81nimble: yeah, just realized that :(10:02
nimblein the software sources window just tick all the ones in the kubuntu software tab10:03
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epimethgood morning fellow kubuntuers!10:05
epimethanybody know why hal is being held back?10:05
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crimsunare you using dist-upgrade?10:05
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epimethalso, anyone know where I can see what the latest updates are instead of just what packages are being updated?10:06
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epimethcrimsun: I know to dist-upgrade... I just want to know why it's being held back in the normal update10:06
epimetherm, upgrade10:06
amin81nimble: Im on the correct path now i think...thnx!!!10:06
crimsunwell, what does it depend on that's not installed via upgrade?  :)10:06
epimeththats what I'm asking you! :-p10:07
crimsunwhat system is this on?10:07
epimethfully updated10:07
epimethexcept for hal :-)10:08
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epimethheh... forgot how to check that?10:08
epimethproc something, no?10:09
crimsunapt-cache policy hal10:09
epimethoh, the hal vers... right... one sec10:09
epimethright... I see10:09
epimeththe candidate is a step up... *and* feisty10:09
epimethso yea10:09
epimeththis apt-cache thing is pretty useful ^.^10:10
epimethjust gotta remember it now10:11
epimethrecon I should install?10:11
epimethalso, know where I can get info on what the update includes?10:11
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fdovingthere is a nifty tool called apt-listchanges, if that does what you want.10:13
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guillermoi need some help anyone?10:14
nimblejust ask10:15
guillermook here is the thing10:15
guillermoi am an windows XP user,10:15
guillermoi installed kubuntu 6.06 2 days ago10:15
guillermoi love it, but i cant get it to install anything10:16
nimblemost stuff you install via adept manager10:16
guillermoi am new in linux, and i have tried to use, apt-get and aptitude install,10:16
epimethfdoving: I'm not sure... do I have to download the deb to check the changes?  isn't there somewhere (launchpad maybe?) where the changes are already listed?10:17
nimblebtw, why did you install 6.06 over 7.04?10:17
guillermowell i read somewhere that 7.04 was unstable10:17
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guillermoand i wanted to learn from something i know works for sure, isted of wondering if it is me who is messing things up10:18
zhangkaiWhy my resolve.conf was overwrited by  Kubuntu netmanager?10:18
nimbleok, well its easiest to use adept manager than the command line10:18
fdovingepimeth: ah, yeah, you can see changelogs at http://changelogs.ubuntu.com there are also links from the package-pages at for example: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/kde/klamav - bottom of the page.10:19
guillermoi unistalled amarok, via adept, and tried to install it again but it does not work, i can se amarok and it's blu icon, the wheel, but i cant book the square beside it10:19
nimblebook the square?10:19
nimbleoh you need in adept manager?10:20
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guillermoher ei am blending swedish and english, sorry fot that.10:20
guillermoi mean, there is a little square beside the program, puting a check sign on it by clicking on it is what i meant10:20
guillermobut adept does not let me10:21
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epimethfdoving: packages.ubuntu.com doesn't have backports?10:21
nimblehmm adept managers different in 7.04 :-/10:22
epimethalso no backports in changelogs?10:22
guillermowell, is there anyway for me to update to 7.04 via 6.0610:22
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ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)10:23
epimethguillermo: I would suggest you do a fresh install, but thats just me.  also, you'll need to update twice (6.06 -> 6.10, then 6.10 -> 7.04)10:23
epimethguillermo: and just so you know, feisty is not unstable anymore10:24
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guillermowell i burned a copy  of 70410:24
guillermobut i dont remeber if i tried it or not10:24
epimethzhangkai: because resolv.conf is *supposed* to be overriden by whatever network manager you are using.10:24
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epimethzhangkai: is you were using dhclient it would be overriden as well10:25
guillermoi tryed several linux distributions,10:25
fdovingepimeth: i though launchpad had some sort of changelog feature, but i can't find it.10:25
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djdarkmanhy, at at  boot I get message that mount point 0 does not exist, how do I know wich one is mount point 0 from the fstab?10:26
epimethguillermo: when did you burn feisty?  it might have been back when it *was* unstable, so you might want to get a new one... I'd suggest you use jigdo so you don't have to download *all* of the packages again :-)10:26
guillermoand how do i do that?10:27
guillermoi downloaded it when i was in xp10:27
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fdovingepimeth: closest i can think of is the .changes files from each build. for example for klamav, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/klamav - select version from the publishing history, then click on the build, for example 'i386' - that gives https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/318975 - which then has a link to the .changes file.10:27
guillermoi burned it 2 days ago10:27
epimethfdoving: okay... so here's my bottom line.  I compiled my own sound driver from alsa with a patch.  will hal override that? I want it to10:27
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_4strOdjdarkman: look into your /etc/fstab you will find the one ;)10:28
epimethguillermo: so thats fine... you should just install it then :-)10:28
guillermoi'll be back later then10:28
epimethguillermo: I was worried we were talking like 2 months ago, when it was unstable10:28
djdarkmanI looked but since edgy ubuntu is using very strange fstab entires10:28
djdarkmanI don`t understand them10:28
fdovingepimeth: not sure. food bbl.10:28
epimethzhangkai: you got my messages?10:28
guillermouh, another thing,10:28
_4strOdjdarkman: UUID ?10:28
guillermowhen i installed kubuntu i kept getting a message about a hdd block corrupted and a number and it kept like that for about 3 hours,10:29
djdarkmanI don`t know what they mean or how to test them if they are valid10:29
epimethguillermo: thats not good10:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:29
guillermoi went to school and came back and then it was asking me for install configurations and so on10:29
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)10:29
guillermoi used windows to check the disks, but nothing there10:29
epimethguillermo: does that really surprise you? :-)10:30
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guillermodoes kubuntu 6.06 have any software for reparing the disk10:30
epimethguillermo: personally, I would nuke the disk... but if you don't know what you're doing you might want to ask a friend who does to do it for you10:30
guillermonuke it?10:31
epimethguillermo: low level format10:31
djdarkmanthis is my first entrie in fstab proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 ,how could it not be valid since it works?10:31
guillermodamn it10:31
epimethguillermo: short of that any fix is just temporary and sometimes leads to more corruption of the disk10:32
_4strOdjdarkman: can you paste your file ?10:32
nimblehardware disk manufacturers usually have software to check if it the disk is damaged or something10:32
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djdarkmanwait a sec10:32
epimethnimble: I've used seagate's and westerndigital's software to try and fix their respective disks... nothing ever worked for me (long term) short of a full wipe10:32
epimethguillermo: yea... sounds bad but as long as you back everything up you should be fine10:33
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djdarkman_4strO: http://djdarkman.pastebin.us/3611610:33
epimethguillermo: another solution would be to buy a new hard drive... they run pretty cheap these days10:34
guillermowell i ahve formated my disk before, using DOS and windows10:34
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epimethguillermo: not format, low level format10:34
guillermoi feel lik and ignorant now10:34
nimbletheir programs can usually test if a disk is dying as well10:34
epimethguillermo: formatting rewrites the file tables (the disk 'forgets' where everything is)... low level formatting actually writes 0's to the entire drive.  this takes a loooong time10:35
epimetha few hours, to be precise10:35
guillermoand the information on the disk is gone both wyas right?10:35
nimbleyes, but if you only format then you can recover data pretty easily10:36
_4strOdjdarkman: /media/w2 and /media/main really exist ?10:37
epimethguillermo: no.  a regular format does not delete the info, but you need special software to get it back... a low level format will wipe it completely to anyone who isn't a computer forensics (sp?) expert who has special hardware.  low level formatting 6 times in a row will wipe the information completely off the disk, but will also shorten the disk's life span10:37
djdarkmanI`m using main right now10:37
_4strOdjdarkman: evertything looks good in your file10:37
djdarkmanw2 works too10:38
guillermothat sound scary10:38
djdarkmanhmmm don`t know then why does mount complain10:38
guillermook i have 2 disk10:38
epimethguillermo: it is, the first time... :-)10:38
guillermopretty little10:38
_4strOdjdarkman: sudo umount -a && mount -a10:38
_4strOdo you have an error message ?10:38
guillermoon os 60 Gb and one is 40, i have windows partitions on the 40 GB-one, and kubuntu on the 60Bg one,10:38
_4strO(expext : cant unmount, still in use ...)10:39
djdarkmanyes there all busy10:39
epimethso the 60 gig one has corrupted sectors?10:39
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epimethguillermo: ^10:39
guillermoif i take all the important files to the 60Gb pictures files and so on, and low level format the 40 gb, and wiping out windows,, am i crazy?10:39
djdarkmanbut didn`t get that error that I get on boot10:39
_4strOdjdarkman: think you error message is not about the /etc/fstab file10:40
djdarkmanwhat else is related to mount?10:40
_4strOwhat is "boot" for you ?10:40
_4strOenter session ?10:40
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djdarkmanbefor X even starts10:41
epimethguillermo: no, but you shouldn't be moving files from a hard drive that is okay to one that has corrupt sectors10:41
zhangkaiepimeth:yes,i use dhclient,can knetworkmanager  add the DNSs?.10:41
guillermoIs Matlab available for kubuntu?10:41
guillermoi dont nkw whic one is corrupt!10:41
_4strOdjdarkman: i made a mistake above : sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a10:42
_4strOi forgot a sudo :p10:42
djdarkmanI didn`t notice it eighter :)10:42
epimethguillermo: you said that you got warnings when you were installing kubuntu, right?  that was to the 60GB drive?10:42
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djdarkmanno change10:42
_4strOi thought :p10:42
guillermowell i am going to descirbre exaclty what i did10:43
_4strObut never know ;)10:43
djdarkmanohhh yes there is10:43
djdarkmanif i try sudo mount -a only10:43
epimethzhangkai: yes, in manual configuration10:43
epimethzhangkai: but that defeats the purpose of dhcp10:43
djdarkmandjdarkman@Darknet:~$ sudo mount -a10:43
djdarkmanmount: mount point 0 does not exist10:43
guillermoi put the live cd on, i reboot the pc, it started directly from the cd, (i was rtying to install ubuntu)10:43
djdarkmanmount point 0 should be proc but that`s okay10:44
guillermoseveral options came up, i picked "start or install ubuntu"10:44
guillermothen it said, unpacking linux....ok, starting kernel...10:44
guillermothe screen went black, and a erros message came up saying something i remember like this10:44
_4strOdjdarkman: /proc isn't the mistake10:45
djdarkmanyeah I know10:45
_4strOi have it too in my fstab and no problem with it10:45
guillermo[a bunch of numbers]   hdd_idr. : huh? buffer I/O error on device kdd logical block 28231910:45
djdarkmanyou get same error?10:46
guillermoit sayd "hdd" instead of "kdd"10:46
guillermoand it keeps coming up for hours, changing the last number10:46
djdarkmanbtw I tried commenting out the lines and trying mount, no use10:47
_4strOdjdarkman: the only thing i'm not sure are the lines #blkid output, they dont have #10:47
djdarkmanthat`s not in my fstab10:47
epimethguillermo: hdd is the slave on the secondary IDE cable.  do you know which disks are connected where?10:48
djdarkmanthat was a blkid outout from the console10:48
_4strOlooool ok :)10:48
epimethguillermo: and yes, there is a linux version of matlab available10:48
djdarkmanto show you the UIDs10:48
guillermothe primary is the 40gb, where i have C: partition for wndows10:48
guillermothen the slave should be 60 GB10:48
djdarkmandidn`t expect you to know my UID`s so I wrote them down10:48
djdarkmanis there a way that I can make the boot "never verbose"?10:50
djdarkmanI mean I prefer watching the loading screen than the boot outputs10:50
_4strOi dont know but a best way is to find why you have this message :p10:50
djdarkmanwrite a new fstab?10:51
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epimethguillermo: and you are sure you installed onto the 60GB disk?10:52
epimethguillermo: erm, installed linux on the 60*10:52
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_4strOdjdarkman: are you sure you dont have any lines without comment at the beginning of your file10:53
guillermowell when i installed kubuntu i got the same message for hours, but when i got back from school kubunto desktop was up, and i installed it from there, it asked me where, and i did a partition manually, on the 60 gb drive10:53
guillermoso i am pretty sure is on the 60 gb10:53
djdarkman_4strO: no but I`m cheking10:53
zhangkaiIs  manual config priority  dhcp client?epimeth.10:54
epimethguillermo: great.  so you should move things from linux to windows to back them up, then nuke the linux disk and install feisty onto the freshly cleaned 6010:55
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guillermowhat do you mean moving linux stuff to windows10:55
djdarkmanhmmm maybe it doens`t pharse the comments correctly10:56
guillermomoving everythin from the 60 gb disk (where i have linux) to the 40 GB (where i have windows)  is that what you meant?10:56
djdarkmanahhh I found it10:57
djdarkmanthe last one, main is the problematic10:57
_4strOha ?10:57
djdarkmanis it because I didn`t use UID on that one?10:57
djdarkman/dev/hda6 /media/main vfat umask=000,uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,nouser,quiet 0 010:58
djdarkman iocharset=utf8,umask=000\040\0400\040\040\040\0400,uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,nouser 0 010:58
epimethzhangkai: afaik, ifup runs when you boot the machine (settings are in /etc/network/interfaces). then, when you log in to X, knetworkmanager runs.  I haven't looked into it too much, tho.10:58
djdarkmanI used /dev/hda6 because I didn`t understand what are these UIDs10:58
_4strOdjdarkman: there are too much options10:58
epimethzhangkai: oh... misunderstood your question.  yes, manual takes priority over dhcp10:59
epimethguillermo: not everything, just the things you want saved... documents, pictures, movies, etc10:59
epimethguillermo: but, yes.  from linux to windows10:59
_4strOdjdarkman: just comment : iocharset=utf8,umask=000\040\0400\040\040\040\0400,uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,nouser 0 010:59
epimethguillermo: your windows drive seems to be okay10:59
djdarkman_4strO: what options are not noeeded? I wanted to make it write and viewable to my user and viewable to other users10:59
guillermook i dont think i have enough space, but it shoyld be the same if i burn a dvd with the stuff rigt?10:59
_4strOor merge it with the line above11:00
djdarkmanhmmm no eror11:00
guillermoand how do i do the low level format?11:00
epimethguillermo: yes, backing up onto DVD is perfectly safe, as long as you don't scratch it :-)11:00
_4strOdjdarkman: infact i dont know exactly11:00
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guillermoand how do i do the low level format?11:01
epimethas for low level formatting, you have to get that from the hard drive manufacturer or some third party software.  try looking for "download hardware tools" on the hard drive manufacturer's site11:01
djdarkmanok thanks _4strO it works now11:02
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guillermoand do it from windows i guess?11:02
epimethif you can't find that then talk to a friend of yours who is computer savvy, s/he'll probably have something for you11:02
djdarkmanthe problem was that there was a newline there11:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:02
epimethguillermo: no, you'll be booting from a cd / disk11:02
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guillermook and i can configure it, and then leave it there for hours right?11:03
epimethguillermo: change "can" to "will" :-)11:03
epimethguillermo: but I would strongly suggest that you do not do it alone11:03
epimethguillermo: its always best to have someone who has done it before help you out11:04
guillermoi dont know anyone11:04
guillermoi mean not anyone who has any eperience on pcs than me11:04
epimethguillermo: oh... so you decided to move to linux without anyone pushing you? good job! :-)11:05
guillermoi am trying to make my friends to do it aswell11:05
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epimethso in that case, just be very careful and make sure you read everything before committing to anything, okay?11:05
guillermoi hate windows11:05
guillermoi am cheking oin wikipedia,11:05
zhangkaiwhy my armarok cann't  play mp3?11:06
epimethzhangkai: you need to install the codecs11:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:06
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epimethguillermo, zhangkai:  I'm gonna go eat something... I'll bbl.  if you need anything just ask, someone will help you... right _4strO? :-p11:07
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epimethdjdarkman: reboot went well?11:07
guillermothx for the help11:07
zhangkaithx for your help11:08
epimethguillermo: good luck... and I'm sure you'll be impressed with feisty... many many improvements over 6.0611:08
djdarkmanyes, all I need is to fix that fstab line,It`s still not good as it should be11:08
epimethzhangkai: no worries11:09
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djdarkmanis there a way to debug udev?11:16
djdarkmanIt`s randomly assignning symlinks for my two soundcards11:17
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Skrot-Hi, I've got some media buttons on my computer to adjust the sound level using KMilo(?). Can I adjust how much up/down it's supposed to change the sound?11:17
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fdovingSkrot-: no, you can not. it's hardcoded iirc.11:37
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fdovingSkrot-: i think you can use ctrl+mediabutton to use smaller intervals.11:37
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Skrot-fdoving: You're right about the ctrl-part, but it only seems to work when I adjust the volume down here11:40
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fdovingSkrot-: yes, here too. it's a bug.11:40
Skrot-okay :)11:40
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VSpikeHi people.  My Konqueror is behaving very oddly in terms of what toolbars and menus it shows, and what it puts on those toolbars.  The problems seem to relate entirely to file browsing modes.  Can I delete the konqueror configuration files, and if so, where are they?11:51
IlokaasuVSpike: usually all personal cfg files are at your home folder, hidden tough11:53
ceefourhi all.11:53
ceefourI'm trying to upgrade to Feisty from Edgy11:53
Ilokaasuso look files starting with .example11:53
ceefourusing local files, but it says the package won't authenticate11:53
Ilokaasu like /home/jotain/.file11:53
ceefouris there a way to skip this authentication or make it authenticate my local files?11:54
ceefourPlease help I kindly request this11:54
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.11:55
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manticeIs there a way to turn eyecandy = off ?11:55
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VSpikeIlokaasu: find -iname 'konq*' in ~/.kde returns about a dozen items.  Not sure which to remove!11:58
K99Brainsomeone can tell me how can i reactivate the shutdown and reboot buttons whit beryl and Xgl?11:59
K99BrainIn Kubuntu?11:59
IlokaasuVSpike: i dont know for sure which to delete...google might know11:59
VSpikehehe .. I'm sure it does, if can figure out the right question to ask it ;)12:00
VSpikelet me try some incantations12:00
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BanjooieOkay, so I have screwed up installing 7.04 with a fiery vengeance.12:16
BanjooieI did it from the CD, even reformatted the entire hard drive before doing it.12:16
BanjooieIt appears to be loading, but my monitor tells me that it's sending an unusable range--this is in general when something is 640x480, for instance.12:17
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BanjooieI attempted to run startx with the boot loader CD, and that works, but then it hangs on load desktop.12:17
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BanjooieText-based screwing about with it via ctrl + alt + f1 seems to be claiming the entire hard drive is read only12:18
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ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.12:24
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ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.12:34
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ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.12:36
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ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins12:37
ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone12:38
Fahuadaihello guys. I was wondering if anyone can tell me how to write a script that will open all *.jpg image files in say the GIMP, resize them all to a lower resolution, and save them to 'fileSm.jpg'  ?12:38
Fahuadai(for a particular folder)12:39
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K99BrainHi, someone can tell me how can i reactivate the shutdown and reboot buttons with Kubuntu?12:40
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pagK99Brain, Are you using feisty with GDM?12:43
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K99Brainno. Feisty with kdm12:43
K99BrainI've kubuntu12:43
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:48
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banjooieOkay, managed to get it up and running01:04
banjooiehowever one of my other hard drives inexplicably isn't working now, and claims that it's corrupt01:04
banjooieor rather, that the superblock is corrupt01:04
K_user!konqueror detailed file list01:07
mo0osahany good tutorial to get beryl work without any prior knowledge01:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:07
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_4strOmo0osah: wich video card ?01:08
mo0osahATI X30001:08
_4strOmo0osah: type : glxinfo | grep render (in a console)01:09
_4strOhave you direct rendering: Yes ?01:09
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mo0osahsorry, I'm completely new to linux01:10
_4strOmo0osah: just type : sudo apt-get install beryl-manager emerald-themes01:10
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banjooielinux is cool, it's just that the learning curve kinna sucks01:10
mo0osahhehe, i have two whole weeks before summer school starts =)01:11
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mo0osahok, it did a whole bunch of stuff and said setting up emerald-themes ....01:11
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_4strOmo0osah: installation finished ?01:12
mo0osahI assume so01:12
_4strOmo0osah: type : bery-manager in a console01:12
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_4strOand look the result01:12
_4strOany error ?01:12
mo0osahgot the bouncing beryl logo01:12
mo0osahok it went away01:12
mo0osahno changes01:13
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_4strOjust right click on the beryl logo and select windows manager01:13
mo0osahI dont see beryl logo anywhere01:14
mo0osahits the busy jumping logo...01:14
banjooieOh, yeah, so01:14
_4strOmo0osah: you closed the console ?01:14
banjooieEvery time I start anything01:14
banjooieit complains that there's no device 16901:14
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banjooiePretty sure this is a wacom tablet it's talking about01:14
banjooieany way to fix that01:14
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_4strObanjooie: you're right01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about device - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
mo0osahok its working01:15
_4strObanjooie: can you paste the error01:15
mo0osaheverything is crazy fast01:15
banjooieX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16901:15
banjooiethen this minor opcode, major opcode, whatever the heck01:15
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_4strO!baddevice | banjooie01:15
ubotubanjooie: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors01:15
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mo0osahI have 16 desktops an stuff01:16
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banjooieah, okay, that's easy enough to fix01:16
_4strOmo0osah: beryl is on ?01:16
_4strObanjooie: yes, and in fact it's not necessary, just more pleasant :p01:16
mo0osahyes, the graphics getting messed up occasionaly01:17
mo0osahbut yes it's on01:17
jujimufuI have linked to beryl-manager on ~/.kde/Autostart ( I did ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager, and the file is created in the folder ), but beryl does not start automatically when I restart X or my PC. I have linked files by doing the exact same thing, and the problem is that my screenlets are opened automatically, but beryl is not. Any ideas?01:18
_4strOjujimufu: you have the beryl icon or nothing ?01:19
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jujimufu_4strO: nothing. The application has no problem running; if I click on the beryl-manager icon under the Kmenu, it runs properly (loads the icon etc). It just won't auto-start01:20
banjooie...should pagedown be producing a tilde in konsole?01:21
banjooieI'm pretty sure it shouldn't.01:21
nick_kanenas p kipro01:21
jujimufunick_: ego, apo ellada01:21
jujimufubanjooie: yes.01:21
nick_xxeris pos na pezi mp3 kai genika  multimedia to feisty fawn01:22
banjooieokay, then, tinyfugue is just retarded then.01:22
banjooiestop being dumb, tinyfugue! Bad!01:22
mo0osah_4strO: how do i put beryl in startup01:22
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banjooienow that is the question I need an answer to01:23
guillermoi am trying to low-level format my drive01:23
banjooiehow do I make print screen not activate ksnapshot01:23
banjooieplease god how01:23
_4strOmo0osah and jujimufu create a file in ~/.kde/Autostart named startberyl or wathever01:23
guillermoi've downloaded the bootfisk from the manufaturer page and all01:23
guillermobut when i restart it stops and says and an error comes up, it seems it's not able to detect ide secondary master01:24
jujimufu_4strO: hm.. so you mean we should just create an executable file which in turn will run the beryl-manager instead of linking beryl-manager to ~/.kde/Autostart?01:24
banjooieoh god I have to make sound work again01:24
_4strOjujimufu: yes01:24
jujimufu_4strO: ok, I'll try that.01:24
_4strOjujimufu: put in beryl-manager &01:25
jujimufu_4strO: well, since it's autorun, I don't think the & is needed. Is it?01:25
_4strOmo0osah: i think it is01:25
jujimufu_4strO: ok. It doesn't matter anyway.01:26
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defconhow do I make a screenshot in kubuntu with printscreen01:26
_4strOmo0osah: still here ?01:26
mo0osahmy settings were to crazy and messing up the graphics01:27
banjooiedefcon: usually ksnapshot opens up and is like 'hey, I'm lagging your system!'01:27
banjooiewhich is why I'm wondering how you turn that /off/01:27
mo0osahtrying to lower the features01:27
K_userdefon : click on saveas01:27
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defconit doesnt pop up01:28
defconwhen i press print screen01:28
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defconI installed kubuntu on top of ubuntu01:28
defconis that y01:28
_4strOdefcon: dpkg -l | grep ksnapshot01:29
defcondefcon@ion:~$ dpkg -l | grep ksnapshot01:29
defconii  ksnapshot                                  3.5.6-0ubuntu4                         screenshot utility for KDE01:29
defconthe key isnt binded01:30
defconis there a setting01:30
defconwhere bro01:31
K_userdefcon :can u select manually (K-menu)01:31
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defconI can run ksnapshot01:32
defconit isnt binded tho01:32
K_usercan u set a hortcut?01:32
_4strOsystem settings / mouse and keyboard01:32
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K_userdefcon: no work?01:35
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jujimufu_4strO: nope, it still doesn't work...01:36
defconnada, im trying to change my settings01:36
defcontrying again01:36
K_userdo u know how to set s/cut?01:36
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defconyea it looks self explanitory but its not working01:38
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K_userur at command shortcuts?01:38
defconim at kscreenshot01:39
_4strOdefcon: alt + F2 then kcontrol and go to the region and accessibility01:39
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_4strOdefcon: dont know the translate in english but like enter actions01:40
defconalt f4 closes shit like windows01:40
_4strOdefcon: alt + F201:40
JuJuBeeEver since I upgraded to Feisty, I cannot log into KDE, but can log in to GNOME.  What can I do to fix this?  It takes forever to get to KDE desktop then things don't work...01:41
defconok tun prompt01:41
_4strOtype : kcontrol01:41
defconin accessibility01:41
defconshortcuts are in there01:42
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_4strOnot shotcut, something like enter actions01:42
_4strOthe second one01:42
defconinput actions01:42
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defconpreset actions print screen01:43
defconLaunches KSnapShot when PrintScrn is pressed.01:43
banjooie7.04 automatically comes with a 'make wine work' button01:44
banjooiethat's awesome01:44
_4strOdefcon: i have one action named ksnapshot01:45
defconi have 201:45
_4strOjust under konqueror gestures01:45
defconone is kmenu kde-ksnapshot01:45
defconim gonna look01:45
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defconnone under gestures, one under menu editor entries and one preset actions01:46
flakeas the releases keep coming, ubuntu seems to be more user-friendly01:46
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K_user_4stro : what is the diff btw input actions and shortcut?01:47
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_4strOK_user: dont know01:48
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_4strOK_user: think a priority difference01:48
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K_userok -thks01:48
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zhangkaihow to know the using version of kde?01:49
_4strOkdesktop --verion01:49
_4strOkdesktop --version01:49
flakewhat is Qt  ?01:49
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ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications01:50
OutoLumoflake, QT is a collection of software components (graphical user interface and others) that can be used in other applications. KDE uses it heavily.01:50
flakeok ty01:51
banjooiehey, this 'autopackage' thing makes a lot of sense01:52
zhangkaiget it01:52
_4strOi hate this package :p01:52
_4strOoups my mistake01:52
_4strObad windowsd01:52
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JuJuBeeAnybody ?  I cannot log into KDE, only GNOME at the moment.01:53
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_4strOJuJuBee: what is the error message ?01:54
_4strOor whats happend when you trry to get in KDE ?N01:54
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JuJuBeeI ge the blue background and it stays t here.  Takes a very long time to evenually even give me error.01:55
_4strOJuJuBee: how did you install KDE ?01:56
JuJuBeeThis only started happening sice I updated to 7.0401:56
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JuJuBeeI installed Ubuntu then the kde packages on top.01:56
JuJuBeeNot kubuntu01:56
defconim going to reinstall ksnapshot01:56
JuJuBeeWhat should I remove and/or reinstall?01:57
faidillingercan someone please tell me how to make kmail run firefox instead of konqueror when i click on an url inside a mail ?? thank you01:57
_4strOJuJuBee: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:57
_4strOto have KDE01:57
JuJuBeeOK...  What if that is already installed?01:58
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JuJuBeeshould I completely remove then install?01:58
Jucatofaidillinger: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser01:58
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_4strOJuJuBee: nop01:59
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faidillingerOK thanks01:59
faidillingerthanks Jucato01:59
JuJuBee_4strO : what then?01:59
_4strOdont know atm02:00
_4strOJucato: ? any idea ?02:01
Jucato_4strO: hm? um... nope...02:01
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JuJuBeeGot an error... "The process for the system protocol unexpectedly failed".02:02
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zhangkaiMy reslove.conf is always  overriden by dhcpclient.How to prevent it ?02:02
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ubuntui would like to ask a question02:10
ubuntui am going to install kubuntu on my laptop02:10
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_4strOubuntu: great idea :)02:11
ubuntui have fasttrack controller of RAID 0 and 1 and i wonder if thats possible to install kubuntu on my two drive raid0 set up?02:11
_4strOha, i dont know about that ...02:11
gagfishwhy i was ignored -o-;02:12
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ubuntui set the array and it starts as 2 disk raid 0  but when i try to install it it coverts to 1 drive stripe and the other seems missing even though its there02:12
faidillingeri just love linux..... i got rid of windows and im so happy about it.....02:12
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MenaSo grub dont recongnize the new vista boot loader ,right ?02:17
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banjooieHey, if java's asking for libgtkpeer.so, which package do I download?02:17
banjooieTHere doesn't seem to be a libgtkpeer package, so02:17
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Menabanjooie, do this apt-cache search libgtkpeer02:22
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Menain terminal02:23
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banjooieuh, didn't see a thing02:23
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Menabanjooie, hmm ok i cant help much bec i dont know  libgtkpeer02:24
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defcon_how do I add/remove programs in kubuntu menu02:30
defcon_like terminal apps etc02:31
bahris it really true that adept_updater does not work behind a proxy due to a bug??02:31
K_userdefcon : k->system->adept02:33
defcon_i want to add stuff to the menu02:33
defcon_like nmap02:33
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banjooieargh, wtf02:34
banjooieanyone know tinyfugue particularly well?02:34
K_usertype in nmap at search02:34
_4strOdefcon_: kmenuedit02:35
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defcon_where is that located, i know I can type it in commandline02:35
Jucatodefcon_: right-click on the K Menu icon02:35
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JucatoMenu Editor02:35
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JuJuBeeOK, I just finished installing kubuntu-desktop and still cannot log into kde.  Taking verrrrryyyyy long time... no desktop yet.02:42
_4strOi have to go sorry02:42
_4strOperhaps the problem is about gdm02:43
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JuJuBeeI set to kdm during intall of kubuntu-desktop02:43
_4strOha ok02:43
JuJuBeeWas gdm prior02:44
JuJuBeeHa as in Ha Ha Ha Ha... :) or as in Eureeka, I got it?02:44
JuJuBeeError (finally):"The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly"02:45
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mo0osahhow do you see a list of startup programs?02:46
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ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.02:52
animimotusI have mount my / with the live CD in /mnt/hdroot02:52
animimotusI can't edit the /etc/sudoers with sudo visu02:53
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animimotus(I edit the live Cd file)02:53
mugrosoeverybody speak spanish??02:53
aro!es | mugroso02:53
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ubotumugroso: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:53
animimotussomeone can give me the right command please?02:53
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paganimimotus, why do you want to edit livecd file?02:54
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animimotuspag: I want edit the /etc/sudoers on the hd :)02:55
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paganimimotus, first mount the / of your HD somewhere, then chroot on it, then edit02:56
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_4strOsudo nano /mnt/hdroot/etc/sudoers02:56
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WuHello, everyone :)03:07
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dj_can anyone help me fix my resolution?03:08
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DJServershey all03:09
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DJServersi am installing kubuntu right now on my pc03:09
DJServerslook good03:09
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DJServershello is there someone=03:10
WuI install the xorg-driver-fglrx on my Raden 9200, however, it seems not work. The system can't find the modules.....03:10
DJServersdont now what your talking about P03:10
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socranowhere do i find a good kubuntu alternate cd image?03:11
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DJServersdont now03:11
DJServersi have buyt the cd03:11
DJServersthat is much better03:11
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DJServersthe most ISO dont work i dont now why03:11
Jucato!download | socrano03:11
ubotusocrano: Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php03:11
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DJServerswhat is socrano=03:12
tumlerlol12can anyone help me fix my resolution?03:12
DJServersnot me03:12
tumlerlol12its one of those i81003:12
galathalioni need some help with charset03:12
socranoJucato: i downloaded kubuntu alternate cd from five different locations and i got different md5sums03:12
DJServersthis is my first time jusing linux03:12
tumlerlol12followed tips on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto... but none of them work03:13
socranoJucato: my friends experienced the same issue03:13
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socranoJucato: are we the only ones that know that the kubuntu alternate images are broken?03:13
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Jucatosocrano: did you download the .md5 file from the same mirror where you got the ISO and compared it with that?03:13
tumlerlol12im stuck on 640 x 48003:13
Jucatoum.. so far you're the only one who has complained03:13
tumlerlol12please any1 help03:13
Jucato!xconfig | tumlerlol1203:14
ubotutumlerlol12: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes03:14
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tumlerlol12mmm... tried that03:14
socranoJucato: heh, you very well know that the md5sums must not be different anyway (and yes, they are confirmed to be similar)03:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about charset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:14
socranoJucato: a md5sum is not a mirror thing03:14
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DJServershow to see the commands=03:14
socranoJucato: no mirror ever customizes any copy of any file03:15
JucatoDJServers: what commands?03:15
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DJServerswhat you typed like !xconfig or are there no more commands03:15
Jucatosocrano: if you say so. you apparently know better then me so I'll just keep quiet03:15
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Jucato!bot | DJServers03:15
ubotuDJServers: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:15
K_usertumlerlol12 : 640 x 480 - no other option?03:16
VSpikewhen a gnome app crashes, I find when I next login to KDE, I get a crash notification on the status tray area and I can then submit an apport bug report automatically... is there any way to do this without having to log out and in again?03:16
socranoJucato: np, thanks for helping03:16
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galathalionmy chars are bad, do i need to configure it in apache or somethng?03:16
DJServerswhat is better? downloading the ISO for kubuntu or buying it ?03:16
socranowhere do i find a good kubuntu alternate cd image (with the md5sum matching 5c19803a2a34996e68be96a279371b5d)? i downloaded kubuntu alternate cd from five different locations and i got different md5sums!03:17
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tumlerlol12K_user: no.. before i had also 800 x 600 but i followed a tip on the ubuntu wiki and now there gone03:17
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JucatoDJServers: depends on your situation. But Kubuntu is shipping the Desktop (Live) CD for free, but it might take some time to reach you03:17
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DJServersokay just wanted to now for a frend of my i just got it in this morning now installing it while chatting here :P03:18
tumlerlol12K_user: it happens everytime when i install kubuntu because i810 is not properly supported or something03:18
tumlerlol12but usually by now i somehow fix it :/03:18
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socranowhere do i find a good "kubuntu alternate install cd" .iso (i.e. with the md5sum matching 5c19803a2a34996e68be96a279371b5d)? i downloaded it from five different mirrors and i got different md5sums!03:19
DJServersi think the kubuntu desktop looks realy nice you now03:19
K_usertumlerlol12 : hmm have u tried login out (reset xserver) then log in03:19
galathalioncan someone help me pls?03:19
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DJServerswith what=03:19
galathalionmy characters are screwed..03:20
pagDJServers, it does :) But to be completly honest; I don't like the default colours03:20
DJServersokay lol03:20
tumlerlol12K_user: i have rebooted about 5 times now :(03:20
tumlerlol12still nothing03:20
tumlerlol12i ran the config before and unchecked all resolutions except 1024 x 768 and it still pops up only 640 x 4..03:21
DJServerskubuntu is installing now it is on 83%03:21
K_usertumlerlol12 : so at login it's 640 ?03:21
LjLsocrano: what about http://releases.ubuntu.com/ ?03:21
tumlerlol12K_user: yeah03:22
LjLbesides, i doubt it's the mirrors' fault... but anyway03:22
DJServerscan linux run games like GTA:SA?03:22
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socranoLjL: even http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/ (which i considered most official and probably the source server) has a broken copy (it doesn't match any of its own advertized md5sums)!03:23
LjLsocrano: are you use it's broken rather than your download being broken? does the size match? what did you use for downloading?03:23
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socranoLjL: rsync.03:24
AFaithhello people :)03:24
BluesKajgalathalion, just ask your question, if someone can help , he/she will.03:24
AFaithhave a question in mind for ages03:24
DJServerswhat games can be run on kubuntu? someone nows?03:24
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AFaithwhats the most useful backup software for linux ?03:24
AFaithi want to backup my server and i don't know what to use03:24
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning03:24
ubotuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate03:25
AFaithi've tried Acronis True Image (the sollution i've used for windows)03:25
gagfishhow come03:25
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AFaithbut ... nothing03:25
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gagfishi ask for help before, but got no reply03:25
AFaiththank LjL, but i'm wondering what do you all use03:25
gagfishthen decide attack problem without any knowhow03:25
galathalionsince i started apache my chars are screwed and i cant fix it.. anyone help me pls?03:25
LjLi cross my fingers, close my eyes and pretend HDs never fail03:26
gagfishand end up fix problem with no linux knowledge03:26
BluesKajgalathalion, do you mean fonts ?03:26
paggagfish, congratulations :)03:26
gagfishnow i get reply T_T03:26
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galathalionBluesKaj: encoding03:26
AFaithhello BluesKaj, remember me :)) ?03:27
LjLsocrano: my connection is being a bit too slow to check right now... what about using torrent anyway? if any part gets downloaded corrupted, a torrent should find out and reget it before it finished03:27
gagfishnight night pag, thanks for answer in end03:27
BluesKajHi AFaith , yes of course , how are you ?03:27
DJServerso my kubuntu is on 86%03:27
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AFaithfine thanks .. i'm asking a little help with my dapper kubuntu :P i wanna back it up :P and try the mighty feisty03:28
socranoLjL: right, i will try that too03:28
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BluesKajgalathalion, enciding what ?03:28
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org03:28
galathalionBluesKaj: my letters are not functioning in irssi!03:28
DJServerswrong keybord config?03:28
epimethand good afternoon my good people03:28
epimethreally quick... how do I write to /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness ? echo 'level' | tee brightness or something, right?03:29
AFaithhello epimeth!03:29
BluesKajAFaith, the "Keep Backup System"  is an option in the kde pkg i believe03:29
DJServerswoow my kubuntu install is now at 90% i am so exsided :P03:29
epimethyea... got it :-)03:30
epimethit was sudo tee brightness :-)03:30
epimethahoy AFaith!03:30
epimethexcited, DJServers ;-)03:30
AFaithBluesKaj: i don't really trust GUI sollutions, because i can't use them when i'm remote controlling my server via SSH03:30
AFaithand if xserver fails...03:30
hshi, I run a server but kubunto need to create a folder in /var/run/ and then i created, but when i reboot the folder is gone, what I can do to avoid the delet of that folder by linux?03:30
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DJServersyeah srry i am form holland dont speak english to good :P03:31
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BluesKajaha, AFaith ...that's kinda beyond my scope then, :(03:31
manfredhiya room..anyone in for some help with wlan?03:31
epimethDJServers: its okay, we'll help you anyway.  unless you're from Rotterdam... we don't like people from rotterdam03:31
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AFaithi think i might use "dd" util to back-it-up03:32
DJServerslol no i am from a very litte vilage (or something ;P)03:32
BluesKajno discrimination here ... just some humour there,DJServers :)03:33
DJServersepimeth wat is so bad about people from rotterdam?03:33
pagDJServers, if you're intrested: there's also #ubuntu-nl (and probably #kubuntu-nl too)03:33
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DJServerso okay03:34
DJServersi have a look sometime03:34
epimethin that case, no worries :-)... and it's village03:34
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes03:34
epimethoh, nothing... it was just a joke03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wlanconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:34
epimethmanfred: whats the problem?03:35
epimethand it's:03:35
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:35
DJServersbut what dus it mean when i look to a program on the taskbeam there stand on desktop 1 or 2 what does it means?03:35
epimetharg... beat me to it!03:35
AFaithepimeth: i'm faster :))03:35
manfredok..ill check that url first before i ask some stupid question03:35
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epimethno, I just asked him whats the problem before telling him to RTFM... meanie!03:35
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epimethmanfred: there are no stupid questions, only stupid people03:35
phal_does anyone know how to get CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE working? it won't restart X-Server03:36
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epimethphal_: try del instead of backspace03:36
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manfredepimeth: i cant get my wlan to work automatically from start. i always have to start wlanassistant and click on my wlan to make it work03:36
DJServersinstall is on 94% :P03:36
epimethmanfred: edgy?03:36
phal_epimeth: it shows log out, shutdown, restart vs. screen03:36
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manfredepimeth: dapper03:37
pagDJServers, in linux, there's multiple virtual desktops. So you can put irc-programm on one, music app on another and so on... You'll probably start to love them at some point ;)03:37
epimethphal_: sorry buddy... I really don't know03:37
phal_ok thank you03:37
DJServersokay nice and with 2 screen can i put desktop 1 on screen 1 en desktop 2 on screen 2 or not?03:37
epimethmanfred: I had the same problem in dapper... dunno what to tell you.  on my desktop the *wired* connection doesn't connect till I dhclient or click on the "wired connection" in KNetworkManager... and that's in feisty!03:38
phal_and also how can i set the keyboard layout used in KDM? like Q and F etc.03:38
manfredi tried feisty before and had the same problem..but im installing that laptop for my dad and he wont ever manage to click anything besides the firefox icon :)03:38
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epimethphal_: but its probably a setting *somewhere*... google "ctrl alt del linux xorg" or something like that03:38
phal_ok i am searching for it03:39
epimethmanfred: what, no Kontact?  my grandmother knows both!03:39
phal_ and also how can i set the keyboard layout used in KDM? like Q and F etc.03:39
pagDJServers, probably yes... I'm not sure though; I am using only one monitor03:39
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DJServersokay yeah just asking because i am thinking to juse 203:39
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manfredno..unfortunately not :) and i really dont wanna install windows 2000 again cause he crashes it within 2 weeks..03:39
epimethphal_: I wish I knew... my keyboard isn't properly set up... you might want to look into KeyTouch03:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keybord - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:40
phal_ok ty03:40
epimethDJServers: j is never "yuh" in english :-)  it's just "use"03:41
BluesKajmanfred, you should have alittle more faith in your dad ...I'm running edgy and I'm 63  :)\03:41
animimotusmy parents how can't connect to their pc have in cat /var/log/auth.log "failed login on ttyl FOR machine authentification failure"03:41
DJServersonly 6% and my kubuntu is installed!03:41
animimotuswhat can I do please?03:41
manfredblueskaj: and ur on IRC...my dad knows how to surf to porn pages, thats all...lol03:41
DJServerswhahaha lol03:41
animimotusgrep admin /etc/group <----- is OK03:41
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BluesKajhe can learn , manfred :)03:41
epimethBluesKaj: I didn't know you were a geezer!  congrats on the soon to be pension!03:41
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BluesKajsoon to be? ...I've been on pension for 8yrs :)03:42
epimethwhoa... what country you from?03:42
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manfredok...well ill keep on trying...thx for the help epimeth :)03:43
manfredu guys have fun03:43
animimotus /etc/sudoers is OK with these two lines : root    ALL=(ALL) ALL03:43
animimotus%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL03:43
BluesKajCanada...company pension at 55 and govt pension at 60 (optional)03:43
animimotusmust I add them to the sudoers to, explictilely?03:43
epimethanimimotus: sudoers have nothing to do with logging in03:43
DJServersis it posible to run GTA San Andreas on kubuntu=?03:43
animimotusepimeth: ok, so where must we search?03:44
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animimotus(I don't have the pc on eyes, I speak on phone)03:44
epimethanimimotus: how are they trying to log in?03:44
DJServers4% left03:44
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epimethDJServers: probably with cedega... I really don't know tho03:45
animimotusepimeth: after a distri-update they can't log no more on their computer03:45
DJServershey i am running kubuntu on a pc whit a pentium 2  lol03:45
DJServersbut it is realy fast03:45
epimethanimimotus: hrm... just them or anyone?03:45
phal_these fonts used in kubuntu are too smooth doesn't it annoy anyone?03:45
animimotusepimeth: they have a tty prompt which ask a login and a password03:45
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epimethDJServers: I'm running it on a 300 megahertz... but no X :-)03:45
epimethanimimotus: nobody at all can log in?03:46
animimotusepimeth: they are alone on the computer, no more account03:46
epimethanimimotus: or just them?03:46
DJServersbut i go now03:46
DJServerssee ya all later!03:46
BluesKajepimeth, irssi?03:46
epimethDJServers: enjoy!03:46
DJServersyeah thx03:46
DJServersbye all03:46
epimethBluesKaj: irssi?03:46
epimethanimimotus: repair mode works, tho, yes?03:47
BluesKajyeah , terminal irc client03:47
animimotusepimeth: rescue mode ?03:47
epimethBluesKaj: oh, no... thats at home... this baby is a dual core Centrino :-)03:47
BluesKajruns from TTY prompt03:47
animimotusepimeth: I don't know, first I have test with the liveCD03:48
BluesKajoh ok epimeth :)03:48
phal_these fonts used in kubuntu are too smooth doesn't it annoy anyone? my eyes ache after a while03:48
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Fahuadaican anyone help me with ssh?03:49
epimethBluesKaj: so what country are you from?  55 is kinda young for pension :-)03:49
BluesKajphal, check out system settings / appearances / fonts03:49
epimethanimimotus: so you're using the livecd right now?03:49
BluesKajCanada...company pension at 55 and govt pension at 60 (optional)03:49
epimethBluesKaj: good stuff... maybe I should move to canadia...03:50
epimethanimimotus: what is the output of $cat /etc/passwd03:51
Fahuadaii'm successfully logged into my desktop from my laptop. (ssh -X 192.168....) and i've openned a new file with sudo kate. However when it comes with an error:  "Can not connect to klauncher03:51
epimethbrb people... this means you, animimotus! :-)03:52
mahdi_is there a program for converting a source package into a deb?03:52
BluesKajare you in Israel , epimeth ?03:52
animimotusepimeth: a grep on the result perhaps ?03:52
Fahuadaimahdi: i think it's called alien03:52
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)03:52
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DJServersyo i am back03:53
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Fahuadaihmmm maybe not...03:53
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DJServerskubuntu i sucsesfuly installed03:53
jermain>< i need help03:54
BluesKajcool, DJServers03:54
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jermainmy desktop is set to 800x60003:54
jermainon a 17" screen03:54
DJServersnow lets find out what this bay can do :P lol03:54
jermainbutno larger resolution is available03:54
Fahuadaijermain got right drivers installed?03:54
jermainwell it was fine for for ages03:55
mahdi_jermain: if you reconfigure your xserver-xorg you can select more available resolutions. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"03:55
jermainit all went perfect since the 1st installation03:55
BluesKajjermain, system settings/monitor & display/admin mode/ ...set the resolution slider to what you'd like , click apply03:55
jermaincool thanks03:55
jermainBluesKaj, it doesnt go higher than 800x60003:56
Fahuadaianyone help with my ssh klauncher problem?  looking up on the terminal it compains X11 conenction rejected because of bad authentication03:56
mahdi_have to set it up in xorg before it will register anywhere else03:56
BluesKajjermain, you can choose your monitor model etc as well , then your options will be greater03:56
pagFahuadai, I think you should connect with ssh -x  to be able to use graphical apps03:57
banjooieAnyone know anything about tinyfugue?03:57
BluesKajyou must be in admin mode , jermain03:57
banjooiespecifically, why pressing page up is not using the macro I set03:57
banjooieAnd instead giving me [[5~?03:57
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jermainhow do i find out what video card i have?03:58
Fahuadaissh -X 192.168...03:58
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jermainBluesKaj, i was in admin mode when i did it03:58
Fahuadaithe lowercase x doesn't work: "Failed to connect to X"03:58
epimethBluesKaj: yes, israel03:58
epimethanimimotus: just pastebin the whole thing...03:59
jermainBluesKaj, only gave 800x600 or 600x48003:59
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epimeth!pastebin | BluesKaj03:59
ubotuBluesKaj: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:59
AFaithi have a question about this wiki article03:59
AFaithif i do all the things mentioned there03:59
AFaithit will also backup the grubconfig ?03:59
AFaithso if feisty fails to do what i want03:59
AFaithand i wanna use again dapper04:00
AFaithwhen i will restore the backup04:00
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AFaithi won't have the a nasty surprize with grub and make my system unbootable ?04:00
BluesKajjermaim , have you tried to configure your monitor make and model and your graphics card as well ?04:01
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BluesKajerr jermain04:01
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AFaithBluesKaj: any ideas ?04:01
jermain@blueskaj: trying to, but i cant get in admin mode, even though i claosed konsole ><04:02
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epimethAFaith: grub is written to the mbr, so it won't be backed up... I'm sure you can read somewhere about grub and how to set it up so it will work.  what I believe it might do is load data from /boot in which case, yes... everything will be backed up :-)04:02
beataI'm trying to figure out how to change the size of my small icons and my system tray icons; there's no settings panel for either.04:02
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epimethanimimotus: you still with me?04:02
dcorbin_workAny idea what package would contain dos2unix and unix2dos?04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xrestart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:03
animimotusepimeth: they can't paste me it04:03
jermaindamnit im gonna restart and see if i can get in adminmode again..04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tinyfugue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:03
AFaithepimeth: let me see if i've understood what you've just told me04:03
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epimethanimimotus: why can't they paste it to pastebin and tell you what the address is?04:03
animimotusepimeth: I don't understand why, the other group are important?04:03
AFaithyour saying me that i have to copy the grub installation from mbr into /boot and then backup my /dev/hda1 (mounted as /) ?04:04
epimethanimimotus: the group doesn't matter at all... its the users that I'm wondering about.04:04
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AFaithphal_: do you want to restart the xserver ?04:04
pagdcorbin_work, looks like it's in tofrodos  I'm not sure though04:04
BluesKajjermain, you may have a broken pkg preventing you from restting X , in the terminal type : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a04:05
epimethAFaith: no, I'm saying I'm not sure how grub works.  I *think* that it is loaded to the mbr, but takes its settings from /boot ... if this is true then you should be fine04:05
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dcorbin_workpag: thanks.  I'll give it a try.04:05
AFaithok epimeth, big thanks, i will google up more ...04:05
phal_yes Afaith04:05
epimethAFaith: do a google search for "grub kubuntu settings"and see where it takes you :-)04:05
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AFaithand about *dd* have you got any experience with it ?04:06
phal_im trying set a shortcut for the command "/etc/init.d/xdm restart"04:06
epimethBluesKaj: you thinking of moving to the holy land?04:06
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AFaithphal_: press ctrl+alt+backspace and it will restart ;))04:06
phal_that's the problem, it won't work :)04:06
AFaith:-? hmm04:06
AFaithwhy ?04:06
phal_i dont know04:06
AFaithyou wanna remote restart it ? or restart it through a console login ?04:07
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BluesKajepimeth, no ... i like it here , in the so called 'wilds of northern Ontario '04:07
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phal_i just want to restart it to get settings etc. applied04:07
AFaithor are you telling me that ctrl + alt + backspace it simply doesn't work for you ?04:07
phal_yes i does nothing04:07
AFaithhmm, curios04:07
jermain@blueskaj its fine now04:07
epimethphal_: and manually restarting X doesn't work, either?04:07
AFaithwhat desktop environment are you using ?04:07
jermaini guess something happened when i went out of hibernate o.O04:07
phal_epimeth: restarting from the KDM menu works04:08
AFaithphal_: another sollution is killing the procces04:08
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AFaithpgrep xserver04:08
BluesKajoh god, hibernate ...dangerous practice IMO04:08
phal_AFaith: it's KDE installed on ubuntu04:08
AFaithand then kill (the pgrep output)04:08
phal_/etc/init.d/xdm restart ?04:08
epimethphal_: so do it that way... I don't like ctrl alt backspace....04:08
AFaithphal_: it ctrl + alt + delete it really should work ;)04:09
ubuntui have two 60gb hd on my laptop that i want to install kubuntu04:09
jermain@blueskaj: i noticed -.-04:09
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ubuntuwhat could be the best partitioning scheme for me?04:09
ubuntuwhat is the difference between ext 2 and ext3?04:09
jermainwhats the dif. between suspend and hibernate btw?04:09
phal_AFaith: it brings up the logout, shutdown screen04:09
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AFaithubuntu: how many RAM do you have installed in your computer ?04:09
epimethBluesKaj: I'm with you on the hibernate thing... in fact, its quicker for me to restart than hibernate and unhibernate :-)04:09
ubuntuwhat is the difference between primary and logical partitions?04:09
ubuntui have 2gigs ddr400 ram04:10
phal_also i have noticed that i don't have the xdm package installed in synaptic?04:10
AFaithphal_: maybe your shortcuts are messed up04:10
SlimeyPeteubuntu: ext3 keeps a jorunal of file changes, so it's much more robust. Go for ext3 unless you have very little RAM or disk space.04:10
epimethubuntu: you can have only 4 primary partitions04:10
epimethwhatever happened to ReiserFS?04:10
phal_i installed the kde and kde-guidance packages on a ubuntu 7.04 setup, could it cause these problems?04:11
BluesKajwell jermain, epimeth my experience with hibernate is not a good one ...if your power goes down for some reason , you could be out of luck trying to boot back in or worst caselose all your data04:11
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ubuntuwhen i try to partition my drives it gives me option for primary and logical what is the difference between them apart from primary can have 404:11
ubuntuok its going to be ext304:11
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epimethBluesKaj: didn't think about that... so true.  but like I said, I prefer shutting down anyway... hibernation takes too long04:12
epimethwolferine: afternoon04:12
ubuntucan i mix primary and logical partion on one drive?04:12
AFaithubuntu: in that case you should do a main root / partition, lets say about 10-15 GB and another one, mounted as /home for your needs (50-45GB). the other HDD should be mounted as  /home/<your_user_name>/secound_hdd and have as many partitions as you like04:12
SlimeyPeteubuntu: there's no difference, really. It's just a historical thing. You can mix them just fine.04:12
wolferineubuntu one question at a time :)04:12
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ubuntuare these partitions going to be primary or logical?04:13
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phal_should i ask for help in #kubuntu or #ubuntu?04:13
AFaithubuntu: try to read the articles on the wikipedia about ext2 ; ext3 ; primary partitions ; logical partitions04:13
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AFaithubuntu: in linux it really doesn't matter if you're using a primary or logical partition04:13
ubuntuok now another question04:14
AFaithphal_: i belive your problem is that your keyboard shortcuts are messed up04:14
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epimethanimimotus: you still here?04:14
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buzuhm did php4 somehow get removed from feisty?04:14
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ubuntui have hardware raid on my laptop is it possible that i install kubuntu on to hardware raid 0?04:14
AFaithubuntu: don't ask to ask a question, just ask it :)04:14
AFaith!raid | ubuntu04:14
ubotuubuntu: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO04:14
epimethAFaith: you know, I never get tired of telling people that :-)04:15
AFaithlol :))04:15
phal_i have been hitting space instead of backspace for two days :S it's working now thanks :D04:15
BluesKajtoo many ubuntus in here :)04:15
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AFaiththough, anyone can really provide me some tellings about their experience with *dd* utility ?04:15
phal_i dont know how i done it lol04:15
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beataOh okay. I edited my config/kdeglobals and changed the size of the 'small icon' there and it changed the size of Konqueror's icons anyway.04:16
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AFaithno one :( ? is this a really *dd* such a rare utility ? haven't you ever used it ?04:17
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beataStill haven't gotten the system tray icons to resize.04:18
BluesKajAFaith, heh, never heard of it04:18
epimethAFaith: nope... never... in fact, reading the manpage doesn't help me to understand wtf it does04:18
Jucatobeata: the system tray icon size is fixed. there's no setting to change that04:18
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AFaith:))) lol :))))04:19
beataJucato: those icons are flyspeck-size on my laptop.04:19
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BluesKajbeata, unless you increase your scrn res, then the icons will appear smaller04:19
beataI can't change my screen res.04:19
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BluesKajor larger if you decrease04:19
animimotusepimeth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20974/04:19
AFaithBluesKaj & epimeth : read more here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem#head-535f2fd341e44e59596908dd6e7bc7666f0aecc104:19
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animimotusepimeth: a hard fight with my parents, a pastebin is so "amazing" :op04:20
BluesKajAFaith, thx for the tip, I'll look further , but i have some errands to run ...BBL04:21
AFaithok BluesKaj04:21
beataOh there were two apps that *tried* to change their system tray icon sizes: knetworkmanager and kpowersave.04:22
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epimethanimimotus: and they are trying to log in using "parents", yes?04:23
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epimethAFaith: cool!  but really, if I back up it'll be dpkgs of what I have installed, any and all conf files in /etc and my /home04:24
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epimethAFaith: there really isn't any need to back up /var/log and the like...04:25
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pgquiles__Riddell: ping04:25
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ubotupong is an old atari game. It's fun!04:25
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AFaithepimeth: i know, that are a lot of directories that i should not backup, but, thats not the point04:25
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AFaithi'm asking for telling me any experience with this (if it really works)04:26
animimotusepimeth: yes04:26
AFaithor review it:)04:26
epimethAFaith: ahh... well, no :-)04:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:26
AFaiththanks anyway04:26
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:27
animimotusepimeth: login: parents pawword: ******* like always04:27
animimotus* password04:27
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AFaithepimeth: do you want to work with me on a tutorial about backing up your  linuxbox ?04:27
animimotusin tty04:27
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AFaithespecially about folders you don't have to include in your backup ?04:27
epimethAFaith: I *really* don't have time... but you should post your experience04:27
MedioLobo**** Hello... :D is there any easy way to update kubuntu dapper to fawn with a manager like install-manage for gnome?04:28
mo0osahI just installed beryl, how do i put it in startup under kde04:28
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mahdi_mo0osah: are your sessions set to remember your last login, or is it a manual save?04:29
epimethanimimotus: and what is the output of $sudo cat /etc/shadow | grep 'parents'04:30
mo0osahI don't think it remembers last login04:30
mo0osahIt's a clean install04:30
AFaithepimeth: i will provide you a google document url to help me to create it04:30
AFaithnow i'm going to serve my dinner04:30
mo0osahmahdi_ can you tell me how to remember last login04:30
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mahdi_mo0osah: go to system settings > advanced tab at the top > sessions04:30
mahdi_session manager, rather04:30
mahdi_then look for the 'on login' box04:31
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mahdi_should allow you to restore previous, restore manually, or start empty04:31
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mo0osahmahdi_ It is set to restore previous session... but for some reason it doesnt do it04:34
bernierHi, How can I access a FAT32 drive from kubuntu?04:34
mahdi_mo0osah: i've found beryl doesn't like to start up with that for some reason, you could try running the programs you want and manually saving it04:34
mo0osahmahdi_ can't i just use the command beryl-manager to start it?04:35
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mo0osahand put it in startup folder04:36
mahdi_mo0osah: go ahead a try it, i've only really used the session manager04:36
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epimethanimimotus: ???04:39
BlackBsddoes anyone know how can i change the sensitivity of my usb mouse in xorg.conf?04:40
BlackBsdi bearly move the mouse, and it moves the entire length of my desktop04:40
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BlackBsdbut the synaptic touchpad works well04:40
Dashmanexcuse me, is this an english only channel?04:41
epimethDashman: yes, but there are spanish ones, too04:41
epimeth!es | Dashman04:41
ubotuDashman: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:41
Dashmanok, thank you very much04:42
epimethde nada04:42
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Dashmanlooks like spanish people don't like chatting about kubuntu at this hour04:44
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epimethDashman: looks like your english is good enough to ask here :-)04:45
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Dashmanyeah, I thought so...04:45
Dashmancan anyone help me with a conceptronic c54ri?04:46
Dashmanor ru, or rg, not really sure04:46
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epimethI have no idea what that is... sorry...04:46
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Dashmanit's a wireless nic04:47
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DashmanI've read about people having problems with the c54rc04:47
Dashmanand found some tutorials04:47
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Dashmanbut nothing about c54ri04:48
epimethhave you tried using ndiswrapper?04:48
Dashmansorry, I'm kinda newbie with linux, what's ndiswrapper?04:48
Dashmandoes it need internet connection to work?04:49
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epimethwell, you need to get the package04:49
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:49
epimethread the article, it should help you out04:49
Dashmanubuntu help will work with kubuntu as well?04:50
animimotus$ sudo cat /etc/shadow | grep 'parents'04:51
epimethfor the most part, yes04:51
animimotusepimeth: hard by phone (for them...) :\04:51
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DashmanI'll take a look04:51
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epimethanimimotus: and what are the last few entries in /var/log/auth.log ?04:51
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epimethanimimotus: meanwhile I'm searching for how exactly the passwords are encrypted so that we can check if they are using the correct password :-)04:52
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animimotusepimeth: I had modify it ^^04:52
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epimethanimimotus: sorry?  modify what?04:53
MedioLoboalguien usa tele2 para navegar? no me soluciona las DNS porque la ip es (tipo de ip no valida para una dns)04:54
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ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:54
Tekhnei'm trying to compile something under the new feisty release, and i'm getting this error from the linker: "/usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory" -- anyone know the fix?04:55
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MedioLoboUps, sorry! Now I type in english Does anyone has Tele2 services to surf? the DNS dosn't works because the ip I should give is and that's not a valid IP for the config04:55
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MedioLobopgquiles: Lo siento, como no estoy registrado no te puedo contestar por privado. :S04:58
AFaithis there anyone interested in writing a tutorial about backing up your linux distribution in colaboration with me ?04:58
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phal_>>>i was supposed to install kubuntu-desktop but i installed kde and kde-guidance packages on ubuntu, should i now install kubuntu-desktop?05:02
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Tekhnehmm, looks like 7.04 doesn't install the libc6-dev package05:03
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lbawinownsHallo! I'm a ubuntu user, but Ive seriously thought of switching to the blue! What are the consequences and avantages? Is there any free of charge shipment liek with ubuntu? Is the there any newer version than 6.06 for kubuntu?05:03
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Alpha_Clusterlbawinowns: its free like ubuntu and there is a 7.04 version05:04
Alpha_Clusterthe major difference is that is uses the KDE desktop environment instead of the Gnome Desktop environment05:04
lbawinownsAlpha_Cluster , does it also get shipped?05:04
Jucatolbawinowns: Ubuntu and Kubuntu have the same offers (shipit) and same releases/versions05:05
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Alpha_Clusterbut i dont think you can ship later then 6.06 for eather05:05
Fahuadaikubuntu = ubuntu except uses kde instead of gnome as default05:05
lbawinownsAwesome :), Can you order both at the same time?, I thought my Dapper drake Ubuntun is outdated05:05
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lbawinownsAlpha: oh ok,05:05
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Fahuadaiyou can download them.05:05
ubotuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php05:06
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Fahuadaii got 1MBps from the torrent05:06
Alpha_Clusterlol i get that from the us servers05:06
Alpha_Clusterbut then im on a .edu05:06
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Fahuadaiyou can get them shipped, by the main reason i prefer to download is the time.05:07
Fahuadaidownload took less than 20mins. install 10. was playing in 30 mins, whereas shipping might take days...05:08
Alpha_Clusteryeah deffinity faster05:08
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BluesKajyeah, even with a regular hispeed (so called) ISP , I manged to be up and running in Edgy last Oct in less than 3hrs05:09
BluesKajfeisty doesn't work very well for my ATI hardware ...was ignorant of ATI 's poor linux support when i bought this pc 18mos ago05:11
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AFaithi've asked you something! doest anyone of you wanna help me with a tutorial ?05:11
khornelHi :)05:11
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AFaithBluesKaj: what ?05:12
lbawinownsAFaith, I would love to help you, to bad I've never used Kubuntu :(, and the word kernel scares me05:12
BluesKajthat page you found AFaith, seems like a tutorial to me05:12
AFaithlbawinowns: i just want to write a tutorial about what folders to exclude from your backup05:13
AFaithBluesKaj: i know, they will be the base of that tutorial :)05:13
Alpha_ClusterBluesKaj: about ATI support did you hear AMD is guna open their drivers?05:13
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AFaithAlpha_Cluster: for real o.0 ? can you provide us a link ?05:14
BluesKajAlpha_Cluster, yes , I heard rumours , but I haven't seen anything official about it.05:14
Alpha_Clusterno it was announced at i think the Red Hat confrence05:14
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AFaithis there a link on the internet where we can read about ATI open drivers ?05:15
epimethlbawinowns: kernel! kernel! kernel!05:15
BluesKajredhat? oooh , that sounds proprietary to me05:15
AFaithgood enogh for me Alpha_Cluster!05:15
Alpha_ClusterBluesKaj: so the new GPLed Liberation fonts are proprietary?05:15
epimethBluesKaj: wb ^.^05:15
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Alpha_Clusterhe ran to THAT05:16
epimethlbawinowns: you know, vista has a kernel, too....05:16
Alpha_Clusteryeah a really bad one05:16
lbawinownsI actually install vista now, it's back of me now05:17
lbawinownsYea, the install totally screwed up a couple of times so far, I agree it sucks and I can't believe my family wants that :p05:17
epimethyou can recompile it if you want...05:17
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Alpha_Clusterlbawinowns: install ubuntu and call it vista05:18
Alpha_Clustersee if they notice05:18
BluesKajok, I resd the article , if it's true then I'll put off buying an nVidia card for a bit ...hope they write some drivers for their tv tuner/capture cards too05:18
BluesKajerr read05:18
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Alpha_ClusterBluesKaj: im just guna go the safest route and make sure my next comp has an integrated intel carcd05:19
banjooieMy sound is not working. Amarok will play mp3s, I have that in.05:19
banjooieWhen I play them, the little whatchamacallit goes up and down, the visualizations work.05:19
banjooieThe headphones work.05:19
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BluesKajAlpha_Cluster, intel has probs as well, be careful :)05:20
banjooieI'm pretty sure they're in the right part of the back of the computer05:20
banjooieThe volume is maxed on everything.05:20
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banjooieWhat do I check now?05:20
firecrotchbanjooie: Pretty sure?05:20
banjooieLike, there are two possibilities.05:20
banjooieAnd I checked both.05:20
Fahuadaispeakers on and up loud enough?05:20
banjooieas loud as is physically possible05:20
eminemwhy can't i send files properly in msn?????????05:20
firecrotchbanjooie: Try the speakers on another computer/stereo05:20
banjooieI have.05:21
Alpha_ClusterBluesKaj: ive installed on people with intel cards much easier05:21
banjooieMp3 player ftw05:21
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eminemin kopete05:21
eminemneed to do port forwarding?05:21
eminemyoh how do i send files faster in kopete? need to port forward which port? anyone?05:21
firecrotchbanjooie: That's quite.... odd05:22
BluesKajbanjooie, turn the volume down on the mixer and go into the terminal and type alsamixer , the use the arrow keys and the letter 'm" to unmute the inputs and outputs05:22
banjooieokay, I'll try that05:22
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banjooieso anything that reads 'mm' should read 'oo' right05:23
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BluesKajwhy for the life of me would ubuntu see fit to to have allt he inputs and outputs in alsa muted as default is beyond me05:24
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frojndI have problem with usb. I put it out but in konqueror is still icon USB disk. I put usb back and pop up window asked me if I wanna to open it in a new window. I said yes. But when I tryed to copy contend of USB disk I wasn't able to. It says: filename for clipboard conetent. Please help05:24
BluesKajbanjooie, as a rule yes05:24
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banjooieI have done this, there is still no sound.05:24
eminemyoh how do i send files faster in kopete? need to port forward which port? anyone?05:24
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Fahuadaierminem: you shouldn'thave to do port forwarding normally. it might depend on your router though05:25
linenoiseeminem is a sucka mc05:25
linenoisejust sayin05:25
gdiebelAlpha_Cluster: "GPLed Liberation fonts are proprietary" seems you don't understand the GPL05:26
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banjooieAny....unobvious packages I should have installed?05:26
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Alpha_Clustergdiebel: no i was talking about the comment about everything red hat does being proprietary05:27
Fahuadaibanjooie: you using motherboard on board sound or a sound card?05:27
banjooieSound card.05:27
Fahuadaiyou may need the drivers.05:27
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BluesKajFahuadai, his headphones work05:27
Fahuadaitry searching forums/apt for the manufacturer's name05:27
Fahuadaithey do?05:28
Fahuadaiif your headphones work, but not the speakers, that'd suggest the speakers are FUBAR.05:28
banjooiestupidest thing /ever/05:29
banjooieincidentally, tell people to check the analog/digital switch in kmixer05:29
BluesKajbanjooie, try hooking up your speaker sytem to the headphone output05:29
banjooieThat's what it was.05:29
banjooieThe analog/digital switch. I turned it off, and wham, sound.05:29
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Fahuadaihehehe. glad it's fixed.05:30
BluesKajright, you found it05:30
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venikcan anyone help with Kile?05:30
venikit seems unable to find Latex packages that are installed05:31
BluesKajthay also turns on your digital pcm spdif output if you have one , then you can run a coax to the digital input of a home theater receiver05:31
banjooie....I see05:31
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BluesKajmy pc dvdrom has much better sound playing cds than my elcheapo dvdplayer in the tv room :)05:33
venikHow do I tell Konversation NOT to notify me of people joining and leaving the channel?05:33
BluesKajbanjooie, rather than buy an expensive dvdp , I use the pc :)05:34
banjooiewell, this is awkward. Amarok has decided on one particular random picture for all of my covers05:34
banjooie...this is not a picture I want on all of my covers.05:34
BluesKajor cd player , rather05:34
epimethvenik: Settings->Configure Notifications05:34
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venikThat is what I tried first, but I see nothing about that05:36
venikit is mostly to notify me of other events, not joins05:36
BluesKajvenik, settings/configure Konverstion/tabs/notifications05:36
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venikThe relevant notifications are OFF, but they still clutter my channel window05:42
BluesKajyou have to restart05:42
markowich antivirus i need for linux05:42
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venikin fact, most of the stuff in the channel window is notifications about people leaving or joining the channel05:42
gdiebelbanjooie: I have had that happen as well. sometimes amarok will just find an image file in the directory and use it05:43
banjooieyes but how do I /fix/t his05:43
epimethlemme see!05:44
epimethlemme see!05:44
epimethlink link link!!!!05:44
epimethand I'm at work, too :-)05:44
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epimethmarko: you don't need an intivirus for linux05:44
banjooieYou don't need one, honestly.05:44
markoi know05:44
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markoi just want to see your reaction05:45
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epimethmaaaan... *my* amarok doesn't load not-worksafe images :-(05:45
alexi have a question: i installed ubuntu-desktop to try gnome. now how can i remove it and all his dep?05:45
epimethalex... couldn't you have just tried the livecd? :-)05:45
epimethit should just be ubuntu-desktop05:45
markosearch on google for 'pure kde'05:46
alexbecause in 6.10 was enough to give a sudo apt-get autoremove after removing ubuntu-desktop05:46
markofirst remove ubuntu-desktop05:46
epimethany way I can get jokosher working without any gnome stuff? :-)05:46
BluesKajalex . you can keep gnome and install kde or kubuntu desktop and run both if you wish05:46
alexbut this time it didn't worg05:46
ubotuA desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.05:46
markoand then remove other things that are left of05:47
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BluesKajalex, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:47
ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels05:48
BluesKajalex, or sudo apt-get install kde05:48
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox05:48
BluesKajor both05:48
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alexok i found what i needed at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde05:48
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markobut you will delete also firefox and ..05:49
chxI am trying to install from an usbstick and I have the install files mounted on /mnt . How can I tell the alternative text installer not to try to load a CD-ROM, there are your files?05:49
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alexi will reinstall it, now i just want to remove all those gnome programs05:49
alexsometimes it try gnome, but them i'm always back to K :P05:50
ads_im trying to run a bash script ive written but when i execute it it says unable to execute ./startproxy.sh (my script) :not a directory05:50
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banjooie...So tell me about this fluxbox thing05:51
banjooieit looks awesome05:51
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chxI am trying to install from an usbstick and I have the install files mounted on /mnt . How can I tell the alternative text installer not to try to load a CD-ROM, there are your files?05:52
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BluesKajbanjooie, it's meant for older slower pcs. I used it on suse about 2 yrs ago , on an old 233mhz MMX pcc ..worked ok05:53
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hansi__hello, does anyone know if it is possible to use /dev/video0 from a remote pc using sshfs?05:53
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alexthank you all for help:) i'm shutting X off to apply changes05:54
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banjooieWell, I suppose I could try Enlightenment again.05:54
banjooieI liked that one a lot last time.05:54
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DJServershi all05:55
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ircserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:55
shinobievening. cell fones via usb?05:55
DJServerscan somebody help me put up a IRC Server on my linux pc?05:56
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cartoon_nateHey guys.. quick question.. do you know if there is qq support on kopete?05:56
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jhutchins_ltDJServers: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IRC/servers.html05:58
n8k99cartoon_nate: i don't see it in the accounts05:58
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chxOK I am much further, but now it says the file needed for preconfiguration could not be retrieved from kubuntu.seed05:58
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cartoon_nateyeah, I only know that pidgin has that.. but it's not a kde app06:02
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cartoon_natewell... it's gtk based.. so not as smoothly integrated into the ui06:02
mkellerHello all, I just installed Kubuntu, and it works great!  Except my soundcard isn't working . . .  I have a SoundBlaster 32 Bit card, which works great in both Debian, Ark Linux, and Windows XP.  What should I do?06:02
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:02
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mkellerOkay, the sound system was enabled.  I'm going to try reading that web page that you recommended...06:05
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banjooieGo into KMixer.06:05
banjooieClick 'Switches'.06:06
banjooieIs there an 'audigy analog/digital' switch?06:06
venikany Kile- Latex users here?06:06
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banjooieClick that, then try to play sound.06:06
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markohow can i disable the poping icons06:07
markowhen i click them06:07
void242I don't know how exactly have I made it but I have wireless connection now06:07
void242thank you guys06:07
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DJServerscan someone help me plz06:10
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arkanabarok, so kdesu seems broken.  Can I safely use gksu instead?06:10
DJServersi have donwloaded IRCD-Hybrid but to install it= i dont now how to install something on linux??06:10
markoDJServers dont ask06:11
DJServerswhy not?06:11
markojust tell06:11
DJServerswhat you mean06:11
linenoiseif only the Army had that policy hahaha06:11
marko<DJServers> can someone help me plz dont ask can i ask06:11
markoonly ask >)06:11
arkanabardjservers, most versions of ubuntu have installation tools in the main menu06:11
mkellerWell, banjooie, there's a SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack.  It was already on, and turning it off didn't help any.06:12
linenoiseDJServers: if you are using ubuntu type apt-get install dancer-ircd06:12
banjooieyeah, that's the switch I'm talking about--Sometimes that helps. Alright, now try the troubleshooting.06:12
banjooieHeck, it's what's screwed me over...every time I reinstall the OS.06:12
DJServerslinenoise where to typ that06:12
linenoiseDJServers: seriously?06:12
markoin konsole06:12
DJServersi just got ubuntu dont realy now how to use it ;P06:12
linenoiseyes, in a console.... I think alt-f2 will get you there if you're in a window manager06:12
mallizeput sudo before it though :)06:13
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arkanabaraye, sudo apt-get install dancer-ircd06:13
arkanabarsudo is what gives the command root authority06:13
linenoiseI don't know why, I just assumed he was running as root... ;)06:14
markoalt+f2 click options and select run in a terminal window , write sudo apt-get install dancer-ircd06:14
markoif you dont have sudo pass06:14
markodo sudo passwd06:14
linenoiseif you don't have sudo pass, sudo passwd won't help06:14
linenoisesudo requires your password anyway.  if you don't have root pw, you might be f'd06:15
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epimethsudo password is *your* password06:20
epimeththe one you chose06:20
DJServerswhen i typed it in console it says can not be found what sould i do now06:21
DJServersis dancer.ircd a file or something06:21
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epimethDJServers: apt-get is the program that you install/uninstall/update/upgrade things with06:23
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epimethdo seomthing for me... sudo echo 'test'06:23
epimethwhat happens?06:23
DJServersthere just stands test under it06:24
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epimethso now do sudo apt-get update06:25
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epimethsudo apt-get upgrade06:26
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DJServersand what now06:27
epimethdid it give you any messages about left back packages?06:28
epimetherm, held back06:28
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_4strODJServers: you wanna connect the irc, is that right ?06:28
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DJServersno i want to install IRCD06:29
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_4strOif oyour are on kubuntu, just do it with konversation ;)06:29
jthomas_can anyone tell me why my /etc/resolv.conf file keeps changing to the wrong nameserver?  i think it is related to my VPN attempts, but now the VPN is closed and my /etc/resolv.conf file keeps getting changed anyway06:29
DJServersno i mean my own IRc Server installing06:29
_4strOha ok06:29
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markojthomas_ install resolvconf06:30
epimethjthomas_: /etc/resolv.conf gets its nameservers from your dhcp server06:30
DJServersepimeth what is a good link to donwload IRCD you now?06:30
LjLjthomas_: on Edgy, i "solved" that problem by removing the "resolvconf" package. i suppose that might not be the recommended route however.06:30
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ircd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:30
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LjL!info ircd06:30
ubotuPackage ircd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:30
LjL!find ircd06:30
epimethDJServers: I don't know anything about irc servers... sorry06:30
flakewhy do some games leave me in a lower resolution when exiting?06:31
ubotuFound: dancer-ircd, dancer-ircd-doc, ircd-hybrid, ircd-irc2, ircd-ircu (and 3 others)06:31
_4strOapt-cache search ircd06:31
_4strOnice one LjL ;)06:31
_4strOdidn't know !find06:31
flakelike wolf-et for example06:31
DJServersyo now i have typed in console: sudo apt-get install ircd-hybrid and it works06:32
_4strOyep :)06:32
jthomas_LjL and Marko you give me opposite answers :(06:32
_4strOyou have just to configure it06:32
markoon adsl06:32
markoyou need06:32
DJServersnow it says this:  Starting Hybrid 7 IRC Server06:32
markoresolvf conf for pppoe06:33
LjLjthomas_: well, if you have it installed, uninstall it, if you don't, install it :P06:33
epimethDJServers: well congrats, you have an irc server up and running :-)06:33
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jthomas_epimeth: yes it should but i get my IP from and it is changing to which is the DHCP server on my VPN connection from this morning06:33
DJServersokay lol but how doe i now what my server adress is or is that just my IP06:33
epimethDJServers: your ip address06:33
DJServersokay cool thx all for the help06:34
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DJServersbut i may open poort 6667 or not?06:34
epimethjthomas_: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart06:34
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_4strODJServers: you probably have a config file in /etc/06:35
_4strOor a hidden file in your home dir06:35
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jthomas_epimeth: i do that and it works but still changes back to the wrong nameservers06:36
_Therockso what is the easy's way to install codec for kubuntu or do i have to do the mplayer thing?06:36
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_4strO!codec | _Therock06:36
ubotu_Therock: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:36
_Therocknice :)06:36
_Therockis there a !commands i can get06:36
_Therockeverytime i need something ubotu has it :D06:36
epimethjthomas_: hrm... and sudo dhclient ethX ?06:37
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jthomas_epimeth: same...06:37
epimethjthomas_: tell me about your net architecture06:37
epimetherm, infrastructure06:38
_Therockthanks _4strO06:39
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jthomas_well... i am generally on this network; the gateway and dhcp server are and nameserver is; i was trying to get Kvpnc working this morning but failing; when i used the network-manager-gnome it connected to the VPN successfully but now it won't stop changing the resolv.conf to match the VPN side (whcih i am no longer connected to)06:39
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_4strOyour welcome06:39
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Dashmaner... I've got a question06:40
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DJSerHy DJServers here agian06:40
Dashmanwhy does kubuntu hang when connecting to internet?06:41
epimethjthomas_: hmmm... have you tried killing the gnome netman?06:41
DashmanI mean, I've already connected06:41
DJSeri just tryed to connect to my server but the server disconnects me right away :P06:41
Dashmanand opened google, kopete and all06:41
jthomas_epimeth:  not running06:41
Dashmanor even just tried an apt-get06:42
Dashmanthen it hangs in the middle of downloading files06:42
epimethjthomas_: just out of curiosity, does restarting fix it?06:42
Dashmanor while loading a webpage06:42
jthomas_epimeth: not sure, i should try that ;) but i am working and want to get toher stuff done...06:42
epimethjthomas_: cuz if so its definitely possible and definitely some setting that the VPN connection changed06:42
devilsadvocateDashman - wireless / dialup / broadband06:43
epimethjthomas_: can't take 5 minutes off for a restart?06:43
jthomas_but /usr/sbin/pptpd is still running so let me try killing that06:43
epimethjthomas_: take a cigarette break while it restarts! :-)06:43
jthomas_epimeth: i've taken the whole morning trying to get this VPN working...06:43
devilsadvocateDashman, signal strength?06:43
jthomas_epimeth: brilliant, i will... back in a few! ;)06:43
epimethjthomas_: that could bery much be it... try killing that :-)06:43
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Dashmanhuh... you mean the percentage?06:43
Dashmanon windows it said like 80% or so06:44
_4strODJSer: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircd/h7setup.html06:44
Dashmanon linux I don't know how to look at that06:44
DJSeri look there06:44
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devilsadvocatei'd say it has something to do with the wireless... perhaps bad drivers or something06:45
Dashmanit gives me 6 stars in the wireless assistant anyway06:45
Dashmanmost possible06:45
DashmanI've just managed to install something to make the wireless work06:45
Dashmanbut I'm not really sure which one worked06:46
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DashmanI first tried with the ralink 2500 to no avail06:46
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Dashmanthen I installed 2570 for nothing06:46
Dashmanand finally rt61 did work06:46
Dashman(after resetting)06:47
DashmanI don't know if I should uninstall something06:47
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devilsadvocatenot sure Dashman, sorry06:47
Dashmanor how to uninstall anything06:47
Dashmanthanks anyway06:48
flakewhy do some games leave my desktop at it's resolution on exit of the game?06:48
DashmanI'll keep trying06:48
flyingyellowpighi there06:48
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flyingyellowpigdoes anyone knows how to install a .BIN file or program?06:48
dr_willisflake,  either the games are crashing, badly programmed.. or just.. well   thats about it.. :006:48
dr_willisflyingyellowpig,  you 'run' it. chmod +x whatever.bin ./whateer.bin06:49
flakeso really is a wolf - et problem ?06:49
flyingyellowpigit does't work06:49
flakewindows seems to kick it back ok06:49
dr_willisflake,  could be a driver issue. Ive never seen RTCW:ET do tghat.06:49
flyingyellowpigi have tried06:49
dr_willisflake,  windows doing it.. dosent really prove anything. :)06:49
flyingyellowpigit says file unknow06:50
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dr_willisrtcw:et is als an 'older game'06:50
dr_willisflyingyellowpig,  perhaps tell us what you are ttrying to install.06:50
dr_willisflyingyellowpig,  its possible you got a bad download.06:50
flyingyellowpigi am trying to install realplay or helix player06:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:50
dr_willishmm.. i wonder if they are in the severas repo. or that mediatunbu repo.06:51
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flyingyellowpigno it is on the real.com or helix community site06:51
dr_willisflyingyellowpig,  and it MAY be in some of the alternative repositories.06:51
flyingyellowpigok i will check06:52
dr_willishelix-player - the helix audio and video player06:52
flyingyellowpighave anyone tried Ubuntustudio?06:52
dr_willisso ita in one of them :) not sure what repos i got on this pc.06:52
kane_anybody know where the QT dev packages live?06:52
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jthomasepimeth: not yet rebooted but killing the pptpd seems to have worked, so far... thank you for the help!06:53
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flyingyellowpigI am thinking to install a 3rd Linux distro on my test pc,I was wondering if someone have tried Fedora Core or 7's06:54
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epimethjthomas: great06:54
jthomasepimeth: yes indeed, but it shouldn't happen!  well i got it fixed tho06:54
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs06:55
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dr_willisflyingyellowpig,  use vmware - makes it trivial to test out new disrtos :)06:55
flyingyellowpigwhich new distros?06:56
flyingyellowpigwhich do you reckon ?06:56
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flyingyellowpigrecommend i mean06:56
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hangthedjkane_: libqt3-headers06:59
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kane_hangthedj: thanks07:02
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frode_anyone awailable to help a firsttimer install Firefox?07:05
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BluesKajfrode_, check adept pkg manager07:06
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HymnToLife`frode_, sudo apt-get install firefo07:06
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frode_ive downloaded Firefox from mozilla.com...but when i search in adept... it doesnt show anything.07:08
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins07:08
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Hobbseefrode_: use "sudo apt-get install firefox"07:08
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GremI get this bug many times, in many versions of KDE. I open an app (like Adept) and it sits on the taskbar "starting adept" and never opens it.. I gotta open it a second time. I believe it only happens on apps that asks for root password07:09
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Gremis this somekind of known KDE bug or something?07:09
frode_hobbsee, ive been using MS since the 80's,,,when you just say use Sudo apt-get install firefox...it would be as i would have told a MS noob to just make your own Autoexec.bat ;)07:10
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Hobbseefrode_: ahh.  open a terminal, and type it07:10
Hobbseesorry :(07:10
Hobbseeor you'll find it in adept07:10
frode_i have found adept..and now it sais install completed :=07:11
frode_dunno what i  did... fun07:11
_4strOfriendly user07:11
_4strObut in fact, you have firefox now :)07:11
frode_yes..and thanx alot ppl ;)07:11
sakabatoui have it too Grem07:11
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rrichiehi all07:12
frode_ive gotta say this is Way more fun than M$07:12
rrichiei have some problems to install kde4 alpha07:12
Gremyou know anything about its cause sakabatou ?07:12
rrichieit says some packages can't be installed07:12
rrichiecan anyone help me ?07:12
sakabatouNothing man, i guess its from kde itself07:12
Gremyeah.. ok =)07:13
rrichieno it's from kubuntu packages07:13
GremI can't decide between kubuntu and xubuntu heh07:13
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sakabatouxubuntu is faster, kubuntu is more visual07:13
rrichienobody can help me ?07:13
Gremnot just that..07:13
ScarFreewillhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/88072 you getting this too?07:14
Grembluetooth, samba.. kubuntu wins in that07:14
BluesKajfrode , in the run dialog box type ' kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list ...there you willsee what looks URL addresses whicch are the kubuntu/ubuntu pkg repositories ,delete the # in front of any the lines begining with deb07:14
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Gremanyway, installing kubuntu now07:17
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Gremkde4 seems to be really nice =)07:17
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kane_ does anyone happen to know what qt libs are required to start developing QT4 apps on kubuntu fiesty? seems like ive installed every QT4 lib i can find but i still cant use things like QApplication07:20
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blackdiamond_I guys, I'm Fabio from Italy. Sorry if my english language is not really correct..I'm new from kUBUNTU. My question is what is the best free antivirus for Kubuntu and linux in general? what do you use?07:22
dr_willisyou normally dont need an antivirus program for linux.07:22
dr_willisthe ones that exist are designed to scan for windows viruses in windows files..07:22
dr_willisunless thers some new ones out - :)07:23
defcon_dr_willis,  its good to run rootkit finders and shit07:23
dr_willisso poof - liinux just saved your money.  :)07:23
defcon_and have a decent firewall07:23
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blackdiamond_so you say that aren't a lot of linux virus?07:23
dr_willisdefcon_,  of course if you got everything disabled and no one can get in anyway. :)07:23
defcon_what is a good firewall accept firestarter07:23
dr_willisblackdiamond_,  i cant name ONE...07:23
defcon_ya i got everything disabled too hehe07:23
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dr_willisblackdiamond_,  now servive exploits and other hacks are not technicially viruses. :)07:24
defcon_i like having a firewall to filter shit so it looks like im not online07:24
kane_blackdiamond_: there are not any that have been successfull at spreading in the wild.07:24
dr_willismy silly laptop some how has the firewall enabled - and so enabled - i cant even web surf on it. or get online.07:24
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blackdiamond_Ah ok..sorry for the stupid question..07:24
True_Friendi want to ask a question when i connect to gmail through thunderbird 2 it starts downloading messages (all marked as read) how can i stop it to do this thing?07:24
dr_willisgotta fix that someday07:24
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BluesKajlinux doesn't run like windows in terms of executing files07:24
hangthedjdoes anybody know how to change the font size in tty?  i upgraded to feisty from edgy and now my font is huge.07:25
kane_no, its a common question for sure, and may sometime be needed but i doubt it really.07:25
ranjanhi i need help selecting an mp3/video player07:25
kane_ranjan: i would suggest amarok for mp3s.07:25
cntbanyone knows of keyboard recorder to save me keystrokes of repetitive work in firefox07:25
dr_willishangthedj,  for the console? theres a command.. but i forget what it is..07:25
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ranjankane_: : no i mean hardware like ipod07:25
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hangthedjfor the console.07:25
dr_willishangthedj,  setconsolefont consolefont, or somthing..07:25
kane_ah, i see.07:25
dr_willishangthedj,  cant get to a console to test at the moment. :)07:26
kane_does it have to play both?07:26
defcon_whats a decent ipchains firewall07:26
ranjankane: i have narrowed down07:26
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defcon_other than firestarter07:26
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semistud2354i managed to get beryl working on my 200m, 64-bit laptop...but its a tiny bit glitchy...does anyone know how to smoothin things out07:26
dr_willishangthedj,  its      consolechars --help07:26
ranjankane_:  cowan a2 and wolverine eps07:26
dr_willissemistud2354,  im suprised it even works at a useable speed.07:26
semistud2354i was thinkin installing the dbg packages07:27
rrichiecan someone tell me what repository i must have to install the package named libqt4-core-kdecopy ?07:27
kane_ah, sorry i have not any experince with those.  Ive pretty much only used sansas, ipods and some archos devices.07:27
BluesKajsemistud2354, consider yerself lucky so far :)07:27
semistud2354lol....im not luckey im the shit07:27
blackdiamond_another question, is possible using the Konsole program or other terminals to send mail, like for example using telnet in windows?07:27
ranjankane_:  thanks for your help07:28
semistud2354im just curous what are the dbg packages07:28
blackdiamond_I didn't find nothing about that07:28
ranjananyone has used cowan a2 or wolverine esp07:28
dr_willisive had issues with my laptop and its 200m video card and the fglrx drivers.07:28
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BluesKajsemistud2354, if you say so ,... but iwouldn't call myself by such a name ...i must be getting old07:28
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dr_willisblackdiamond_,  theres the mail command,, or the telnet command.07:29
semistud2354what are the dbg packages...for beryl07:29
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semistud2354dbg=debug?????????? right?????????07:29
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blackdiamond_thanks willis..i will search for more..thank you very much bye from Milan and thank you guys07:30
BluesKajmust be some listed in synpatic, semistud235407:33
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semistud2354im using feisty, kubuntu07:34
BluesKajsince you prolly have the repos for beryl in your souces list07:34
adaptrsauces list ?07:35
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adaptrlike.. Bearnaise ?07:36
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semistud2354sooo.........does dgb=debug????07:36
Gremis there any gui app that lets me join a wireless network with a specific index key other than 1?07:37
adaptrsemistud2354 erm... huh ?07:37
Grem(i believe 1 is the default one)07:37
adaptrindex key ?? or *channel* ?07:37
Gremindex key07:37
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Gremiwconfig eth1 key [4] 07:37
semistud2354it says beryl-core...then it says beryl-core-dbg07:37
Gremiwconfig eth1 key 1231412407:37
semistud2354whats beryl core dbg07:38
Gremthat way I can connect07:38
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semistud2354is that like a debug package07:38
BluesKajadaptr, i appreciate humour but .... ok sources list...does that work for you? :)07:38
adaptrsemistud2354 no, it doesn't - it may say somehting-dev, or devel, but those are development packages07:38
adaptrsemistud2354 I'm not sure what you mean by :debug" packages07:38
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sercikhi people!07:39
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semistud2354ok i have beryl-core...whats beryl-core-dbg...it says "debug symbols for beryl"07:39
semistud2354does that mean07:39
semistud2354if i install that package that beryl will run smoother07:40
semistud2354like.....bugs in beryl will get debuged07:40
BluesKajrun it and see what happens to the eye candy , semistud2354 ...it's only window dressing ,after all :)07:40
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semistud2354lol...a bunch of professionals and all i get is....try it n see what happens....07:41
Random_Transithey, i'm having a small problem with firefox....the fonts in the menus and toolbars look all goofy...larger than the rest of my applications07:42
BluesKajpofessionals ? where ?07:42
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semistud2354arnt there professionals in here07:42
sercikhow can i configure from kde startup services?07:42
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semistud2354or just nerds like us descussing07:42
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adaptrsemistud2354 no, I'm fairly confident there won't be many like you in here07:43
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Random_Transitanyone have any idea why firefox would look all weird like that?07:43
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BluesKajsemistud2354, maybe but not everyone...we're mostly just volunteers who don't have a life :)07:43
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Random_Transitthe rest of my GTK apps look fine07:43
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Random_Transitwell...as fine as GTK apps look in KDE....07:44
frojndif I wanna install xp on my kubuntu, do I need to install wmware-server or vmware-player or bouth ?'07:44
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Random_Transitfrojnd: neither...use Virtualbox07:44
n8k99Random_Transit: you can set them to use the KDE style07:44
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frojndRandom_Transit: what do u mean?07:44
BluesKajVMware server07:44
alex_fuck you07:44
Random_Transitn8k99: tried that07:44
sercikalex | language07:45
sercikhi BluesKaj07:45
semistud2354hey whats the probem07:45
Carbon_Monoxidehi folks07:45
serciki don't know if you remember me (aspianatte)07:45
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jthomasfrojnd: vmware player works; read the howto here http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/linux/vmware-player-image-creation.php07:45
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serciki'm definitevely convinced to se kubuntu now07:45
alex_may be able to fuck me07:45
BluesKajhi sercik , yes i remeber from yesterday I believe07:46
jthomasalex_: come on watch the language07:46
sercikno not yesterday some months ago07:46
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BluesKajalex , do you a question >07:46
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sercikBluesKaj: i see on startup an error messages boot sector are different from its backup os similar to this07:46
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Hobbseei'm not, usually07:47
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BluesKajsercik, I'm not sure what you mean ?07:47
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Carbon_Monoxidecan I choose to install KDE as desktop environment when I use the ubuntu iso disk to install?07:48
adaptrnot directly from the disk, no07:48
sercikduring startup before graphic i read : differences between boot sector and its backup, not automatically fixing that07:48
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Carbon_MonoxideI downloaded and burnt the Ubuntu iso by mistake07:48
sercikCarbon_Monoxide: you can install kde on ubuntu and gnome on kubuntu if you want07:48
Carbon_Monoxidewould that be different from installing with kubuntu iso disk?07:48
fuelafter upgrading to fiesty, when i play rm,rmvb files, i dont get any audio. has anyone encountered similar problems?07:49
sercikalso you can try xfce a lightweight and good windows manager07:49
semistud2354i already have kubuntu installed...is there any way to install windows with out it messing up my MASTERPEACE of an operating system07:49
Carbon_Monoxidesercik: my point is, I don't want to install gnome yet07:49
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BluesKajCarbon_Monoxide, you can install KDE from the repositories after you install Ubuntu07:49
semistud2354like duel boot07:49
sercikif you have downloaded ubuntu you have gnome default07:49
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sercikor if you have downloaded alternate edition you can install as server and then add kde07:50
Random_Transitsemistud2354: sure....you just have to restore the bootloader after reinstalling windows07:50
Carbon_Monoxideso what I have to do is to download kubuntu iso and burn it07:50
semistud2354how do you do that07:50
serciksemistud are you italian?07:50
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Carbon_Monoxidesemistud: use a partition tool to backup your MBR07:50
semistud2354romanian, serbian07:50
serciksorry about question07:51
Random_Transitsemistud2354: boot back into an ubu live session, open a terminal and type grub-install /dev/<whatever your harddrive is>07:51
sercikCarbon_Monoxide: you are wrong07:51
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sercikhe need to install grub again because windows delete mbr07:51
Carbon_Monoxidesercik: which question you're referring to?07:51
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semistud2354i see....07:51
serciksemistud2354: you can also use windows windows boot manager to start linux07:51
hyper_chsomeone runs linuxmce here?07:51
jthomasCarbon_Monoxide: if you only want Kubu8ntu, yes a new ISO.  But if you have the hard drive space, you can install Ubuntu and add Kubuntu-Desktop to it via Adept/Synaptic/apt07:51
serciksearch on internet for a guide07:52
semistud2354how do you do that??07:52
BluesKajCarbon_Monoxide ,   http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde07:52
olmowhen i click a url pointing to a m3u file (eg on http://juno.co.uk/) amarok adds the files to its playlist but doesnt play them by default. how can i change this ?07:52
Carbon_Monoxidesercik: doh! I have figured it in the reverse way. opps!  :-P07:52
fuelhi any ideas why i am not getting real media files audio output ?07:52
sercikno problem!!07:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:52
semistud2354omg...i have that problem 2....olmo07:52
sercikand then kubuntu or linux in general always add windows in grub07:52
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sercikBluesKaj: could you reply to my question?07:53
Carbon_Monoxidethanks BluesKaj, jthomas, & sercik!07:53
olmosemistud2354: hehe, do you know the answer ? :p07:53
BluesKajsercik, ?07:53
semistud2354i wish...i was kinda hopin someone would tell you....so i could find out07:53
sercikduring startup kubuntu check for my dos hd but i can't find that service in system services i want to speed up boot process07:54
semistud2354its when i play streams from stream tuner....07:54
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BluesKajsercik , have you installed windows after , linux ?07:54
semistud2354i always have to click back to amarok to play the damn stream...it doesnt play automatic07:54
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jaimsis this good place to ask 'bout beryl/kubuntu?07:55
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:55
olmoi hate it07:55
serciki want to speedup process by skipping hd check and pcmcia07:55
semistud2354im pretty good with beryl07:55
semistud2354what you need help with bra07:55
jaimsthe thing is that everything has been installed07:55
BluesKajsercik, I wouldn't do that and i wouldn't know how anyway :)07:55
jaimsi run beryl-manager07:55
serciki have searched under system services but i see less process of which kubuntu do on startup07:55
jaimsbut nothing happens :-(07:56
jaimsjust the icon on the tray07:56
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sercikBluesKaj: no you are my mith!07:56
jaimsi've installed nvidia drivers, xgl, beryl...07:56
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semistud2354you click beryl..as window manager....and nothing happens07:57
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jaimsi mean07:57
jaimsi type beryl-manager in console07:57
semistud2354yea and the menu pops up07:57
semistud2354and when you click on beryl...07:58
semistud2354what happens07:58
semistud2354as window manager07:58
jaimsbefore i installed xgl something strange happened: no title bar in open windows07:58
jaimsdo u mean bfore i start kde sesion?07:58
semistud2354like no min max X07:58
jaimsno min max buttons, no title bar07:59
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jaimswhat means it was trying to work07:59
jaimsit doesn't happen anymore07:59
semistud2354...thats strange...cuz thers an emerald theme that has that...its a theme...thats all...but in your case i dont know....07:59
jaimsnothing else happens!07:59
draganhello, does anyone know how apt-mirror works? What will happen if I kill that process?08:00
semistud2354what happens when you click on beryl...as your window manager08:00
nimblecheck emerald is running, beryl is selected as the window manager in beryl-manager and your theme isnt blank08:00
draganI am at 13 of 15,6 GB... but I might be forced to stop dload08:00
semistud2354yea...and try picking a random theme that has the min max and such08:00
jaimsemerald is running08:01
semistud2354did you change the theme08:01
jaimshow do I check beryl is selectd as window manager?08:01
semistud2354right click...go to "select window manager"08:02
semistud2354and click beryl08:02
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jaimsthat's fine08:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-mirror - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:03
jaimsnow its working...08:03
jaimsbut my windows lost their tittle bar :-(08:03
semistud2354can yo spin the desktop08:03
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semistud2354can yo spin the desktop08:03
semistud2354ok ok...now go into emerald08:03
jaimsjust tried08:04
semistud2354and change the theme08:04
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jaimsim on it i think08:04
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semistud2354when you change the theme....you need to click reload emerald08:04
ubotuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php08:04
nimbleonly in xgl08:04
semistud2354i should say "relode theme manager"08:05
jaimsim near of it08:05
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semistud2354im near of it08:05
semistud2354doesnt make sense08:05
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jaimssorry for my english08:06
jaimsI mean that it's working almost ok08:06
semistud2354do you have the min max and X08:06
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jaimsi've opened the emerald manager08:06
jaimsfirst tab: there was nothing08:07
semistud2354no themes08:07
jaims2nd tab: theme editing; picked one and saved08:07
jaimsthen in 1st tab I have a theme08:07
jaims'untitled theme'08:07
jaimsbut nothing happens when i reload the win manager08:08
semistud2354go into adept or synaptic08:08
semistud2354and get some themes08:08
jaimsyes, ill try08:08
semistud2354or you can go online and get some emerald themes08:08
jaimseverything but the title bar is working alright08:08
jaimsi do the cubes stuff08:08
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jaimsalt-tab works the beryl way08:08
semistud2354then tab "theme settings" "theme" at top click import08:09
semistud2354and click on the theme you just downloaded08:09
dragananyone downloading repo?08:09
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draganwith apt-mirror?08:09
semistud2354it should work....08:09
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lydia_hi there08:11
killermachhas anyone had the pleasure (smirk) of tackling the ssh problems in Fiesty? I've spent alot of hours only to realize that it isn't my network, now it appears to be something broke in ssh in 7.0408:11
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killermachlydia_: hello08:11
draganwhat with ssh?08:11
semistud2354what ssh problem08:12
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semistud2354...whats ssh08:12
lydia_hey there08:12
draganit has to be installed :-)08:12
lydia_im new to linux08:12
lydia_can anyone help me?08:12
semistud2354what you need help with lydia08:12
lydia_i had so much trouble setting up my connection usb modem !08:12
lydia_im connected as i see it08:12
lydia_but my browser dont connect08:13
dragantell us HOW08:13
jaimssemistud: thank you very much08:13
semistud2354you got it workin08:13
jaimsi'll try some new themes08:13
jaimsnot yet!08:13
jaimsbut ill get it+08:13
lydia_i had to run tothe cyber coffee to install my dirty usb modem08:13
draganlydia_: you need to set up DNS08:13
semistud2354yea...no problem...tell ppl about linux08:13
semistud2354spread the word....08:13
lydia_i got the numbers08:13
jaimsyes I do semistud08:13
lydia_how do i set it up08:14
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jaimsthats my os of choice at my home08:14
draganin system settings network08:14
semistud2354that sounded so...radical religion08:14
draganin system settings > network08:14
lydia_alright but i connect with usb modem08:14
lydia_does that work?08:14
jaimsbye all08:14
semistud2354spread the the code of linux....can a get an aaaaaaaamen08:14
draganit should08:14
lydia_alright im in the networ settings08:15
serciklydia_: try to search on internet if your modem is supported before08:15
draganif you wish to be certain... we will have to type a bit ;-)08:15
semistud2354...whats ssh08:15
dragansudo kedit08:15
lydia_my modem IS supported otherwise i wouldnt be here08:15
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draganthen open /etc/resolv.conf lydia_08:15
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draganand in that file add new nameservers08:16
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ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo08:16
draganin form08:16
Carbon_Monoxideanyone here is using 64-bit kubuntu?08:16
draganthese are mine..08:16
draganand make sure you have one new line at the end of file..08:17
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draganone enter will do08:17
killermachsemistud2354: I just found this link http://www.mail-archive.com/misc%40openbsd.org/msg41340.html and then I commented out the GSS.... entries in ssh_config problem solved08:17
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lydia_the nds are alredy in08:18
draganjhutchins_lt: I am used to konsole... that is why I type sudo kedit ;-)08:18
nhoultI have a problem with Feisty not detecting all the buttons on my SNES joystick (dmesg says: "USB HID v1.00 Gamepad [RetroUSB.com SNES RetroPort]  on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1"). In Edgy it worked fine. Any ideas how I can force a drive to use the correct number of buttons?08:18
draganhmmm lydia_08:18
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jhutchins_ltlydia_: of course.  pppd gets them from the isp08:18
lydia_i got them from the isp i went on the site this afternoon08:19
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draganthen it might be proxy issue?08:19
draganor route?08:19
BluesKajCarbon_Monoxide, i tried 64bit (have AMD64 3200+CPU) but the hardwre support was lacking so i switched to x8608:19
jhutchins_ltdragan: Doesn't matter whether you launch a GUI app from the console or from a shortcut, it's still a gui app.08:19
zenekkhow much ram and swap does your feisty use?08:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:19
sercikcan i do a completely backup of kubuntu so i can install on another pc already with all updates and personalizations08:19
jhutchins_ltlydia_: Can you ping or connect to anything by IP #?08:19
ardchoillesercik: I use PartImage for that.08:20
draganlydia_: open konsole and type ifconfig and paste here what it says08:20
sercikPartImage i have read of it08:20
ardchoillesercik: http://partimage.org/Main_Page08:20
sercikit runs under linux08:20
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ardchoilleYes, I don't use anything other than Kubuntu :)08:20
jhutchins_ltDO NOT PASTE HERE!08:21
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jhutchins_ltUSE PAASTEBIN!08:21
lydia_i didnt try it08:21
zenekki asked a question08:21
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:21
zenekktype top in konsole and tell me08:21
zenekki dont think that this is a problem08:21
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jhutchins_ltzenekk: Won't do you any good, I'm running mandriva.08:22
killermachwell I feel compelled to tell you all about my experience with GSSAPIAuthentication in Fiesty ssh_config08:22
zenekkim running windows 3.11 so what08:22
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draganRAM Usage: 360/970M zenekk08:23
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lydia_cant copy you the text dragan*08:23
lydia_private message bla bla...08:23
draganTasks: 128 total,   3 running, 125 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie08:23
draganCpu(s):  3.3%us,  3.6%sy,  0.0%ni, 92.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.3%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st08:23
lydia_but i just cant register!!!!08:23
haLLogramcan anyone help me change GRUB with Windows Boot?08:23
KartiHi all08:23
Carbon_MonoxideBluesKaj: yea, I tried 64-bit Breezy and the hardware support and libs dependency is a big headache08:24
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:24
draganlydia_: pastebin08:24
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:24
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Carbon_MonoxideBluesKaj: I switched back to i386 platform finally08:24
lydia_does that work?08:24
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killermachmy ssh was working fine, I was doing remote access to servers, life is good, work was getting done. then yesterday new furniture arrived, I broke down a network subnet of 3 machines, put in new furniture, reassembled the 3 machine subnet of our network and no ssh to our main webserver ACK!08:24
zenekkthanks dragan08:24
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dragandunno...never user it ;-)08:25
Carbon_MonoxideBluesKaj: and I'm thinking if it is a good time for me to switch to 64-bit08:25
killermachconsidering the hardware and cabling move, I was sure I had a physical network problem08:25
dthackerHi, I've just installed apache2 and started it.   I was expecting to see the apache test page at localhost, but I'm getting a can"t connect error.  How should I debug this?  PS. I'm on Kubuntu 7.0408:25
Kartidthacker: have you also tried the address?08:26
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dthackerKarti: no, let me try now.08:26
killermachhowever, I could ssh from fiesty to 3 other servers on our local network connected to another switch, located elsewhere in the building, and those machines connected to our main webserver no problems.. good to know our server was online08:26
jhutchins_ltdthacker: Logs are in /var/log/httpd, try the errors log.08:26
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draganlydia_: just tell me here... what sections you got form ifconfig? like eth0 ppp0 lo .. etc08:26
killermachI could ssh localhost no problem08:26
semistud2354im really want to play some nintendo 64 games....does anyone know a good emulator for linux08:27
semistud2354or maby something that i could use with wine08:27
Carbon_Monoxidewell, gotta go. later!08:27
jhutchins_ltsemistud2354: I know there is one, but that's all.  Try google.08:27
draganor synaptic ;-)08:28
dthackerKarti: no test page, but I do get a listing of subdirectories.08:28
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dthackerjhutchins: will check error log in a second08:28
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Kartithat is it working there08:28
semistud2354im did alittle reaserch...whats kamefu08:28
BluesKajCarbon_Monoxide, dunno , it depends on hardware driver support ...check around and see if your graphics and soundcards are 64bit driver supported ..then by all means , but the advantages aren't so apparent from what i heard08:29
semistud2354can anyone go there see if thats something worth trying08:29
killermachfish:// URLs were also broken, even to the machines locally that I could ssh to in the building. ODD.. any how, about 4 or more hours of troubleshooting, I find that I have an ubuntu 6.10 box alive on the same subnet (a multiboot machine) it ssh connects to everywhere from this same physical subnet just fine08:29
Kartiopen the directory there and it should put you to a page that says *IT WORKS*08:29
lydia_dragan : etho:avah lo and pppO08:29
jhutchins_ltsemistud2354: There's a lot to running a webserver other than installing it and starting it.08:29
draganlydia_: go in konsole and type >>    sudo route add default ppp008:30
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F1_F_Axdcc list08:30
draganand try browser again08:30
lydia_SIOCADDRT: File exists08:30
killermachI start examining the differences between fiesty and edgy connections using ssh -vv weberver and find that edgy has no GSSAPIAuthentication notices, a quick google produces the link I put earlier08:30
draganhmmm that USB....08:31
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killermachany how, I hope none of the rest you waste a whole workday on this issue, does anyone know why it became broken?08:31
draganroute is there... dns is there... connection is there...08:31
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draganand you are here....08:32
draganjust odd08:32
lydia_i cant understand08:32
draganbrowser = konqueror?08:32
lydia_i know its not the best and has conflicts08:32
draganyou tried google?08:32
draganI mean to browse...08:32
lydia_google doesnt show and ping on google is ok08:33
draganno to ask :-)08:33
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draganwhat??? ping google.com returns IP?08:33
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ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv408:33
ubuntupls somebody where is some ICQ for linux?? get me some link pls08:33
lydia_65 ms08:34
jhutchins_ltlydia_: THat may help.08:34
lydia_im gonna try that messenger08:34
draganwell I am confused with this... :-)08:34
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dragandisable IPv608:34
lydia_how do i do08:34
draganthat is what jhutchins_lt suggested08:35
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv408:35
ubuntumluvi tady nekdo cesky nebo se mi to zda?08:35
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lydia_do i type it here?08:35
lydia_o _o08:35
GrahamHey peeps, do any of you know of a guide or what packages I need to play WMA files in Amarok?08:36
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.08:36
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter08:36
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jhutchins_lt!mp3 | grahm08:36
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv408:36
ubotugrahm: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:36
BluesKajGraham, w32codecs08:36
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GrahamIn that case... why would Amarok continually crash when playing WMA files?08:37
lydia_tu es francais08:37
lydia_tu vas pouvoir maider08:37
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sybuxI've got a little question about nfs08:38
lydia_nintendo sound files?08:38
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.08:39
GrahamYes it is the network file system, good little ubot08:39
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BluesKajgraham, make sure you have universe and multiverse repositories enabled in your sources list08:39
dragannow... can I get some info? ;-) about apt-mirror ?08:39
sybuxIs there a way to change speed or to make nfs connection better ?08:39
lydia_i used to write tunes in nsf format08:39
sybuxI explain. I've got a server with all my video on it.08:39
GrahamBluesKaj: How would that stop Amarok?08:39
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GrahamI think it's just a dodgy wma file, other WMA files seem to play alright.08:40
sybuxI access it by nfs but every 20-30 seconds, the movie hang and go on.08:40
GrahamI'll get arround to a ,ogg convert08:40
cntbanyone knows of keyboard recorder to save me keystrokes of repetitive work in firefox08:40
BluesKajGraham, you don't have the right codecs installed to play window media08:40
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lydia_so nobody found for my strange problem ?08:40
BluesKajwindows media08:40
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draganlydia_: have you set up konqeror for web browsing also?08:41
jhutchins_ltlydia_: Would you re-state it?  I missed the original.08:41
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yurimxpxmanI'm trying to play a FLAC file in Amarok, and it says there's no available decoder. What's wrong?08:41
jhutchins_ltlydia_: N'mind, I've got it.08:41
lydia_i didnt set up anything on konqeror08:41
jhutchins_ltlydia_: Your browser didn't connect.08:41
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draganit's default role is file browser08:41
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jhutchins_ltWhat happened when you tried to ping things?08:41
BluesKajGraham,, now you tell us ! ...lotsa wmv wma files are corrupted08:41
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lydia_pings are ok08:41
lydia_and file browsing is ok too lol08:42
draganping is cool ;-)08:42
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dragandns is there... route is there08:42
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jhutchins_ltlydia_: You can ping by hostname too, right?08:42
lydia_so i must setup konqeror08:42
pierre__how to launch an app automatically, like yakuake ?08:42
lydia_by hostname?08:42
GrahamBluesKaj: What do you mean "now you tell us" I just found out!!!!!!!!08:42
lydia_what do you mean08:42
yurimxpxmando any of you have any idea why Amarok is telling me that there's no available decoder when I try to play FLAC audio? I have the amarok xine package installed08:43
draganby name08:43
lydia_(im french )08:43
BluesKajyurimxpxman, sudo apt-get install flac08:43
jhutchins_ltlydia_: Yeah, like ping novell.com08:43
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draganhostname = google.com08:43
sybuxlydia_: in stead of 192.x.x.1, just ping mycomputer for example08:43
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morallesshey, is there anyway i can get soundkonverter to de/encode m4a's?08:43
aliendoggyshould apache run php file default when i intalled a LAMP config true the server cd?08:43
sybuxdragan: hostname <> google.com which is the domain name !!08:43
yurimxpxmanBluesKaj: I just tried that and it still doesn't work08:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:43
sybuxaliendoggy: yep08:44
lydia_novell dont work08:44
lydia_i got no pings anymore08:44
jhutchins_ltOk, so no numeric ping either?08:44
sybuxlydia_: novell is your computer name ?08:44
jhutchins_ltsybux: No.08:44
aliendoggy<sybux>: When i access the server true firefox/opera in my local network it will only download the php file.08:45
BluesKajyurimxpxman,you may have to configure amarok to play the flac files08:45
lydia_google works now.08:45
pierre__also, is there a way to change the behavior to open files with konqeror, to double click instead of single click like on a link ? i haven't found anything in the options08:45
morallesshey, is there anyway i can get soundkonverter to de/encode m4a's?08:45
jhutchins_ltHah.  Sounds like maybe the connection isn't very good.08:45
sybuxaliendoggy: and you just have installed lamp08:45
draganyes sybux ... jc-in-f99.google.com is true host name for domain name google.com...but I think that it does not matter that much for lydia_08:45
lydia_but when i loged in my commands ended in "ping timeout"08:45
aliendoggy<sybux>: Yes.08:45
lydia_strange isnt it08:46
sybuxdragan: sure, but I prefer to use good term :)08:46
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jhutchins_ltlydia_: That may be a part of the connect script failing.08:46
yurimxpxmanBluesKaj: I figured it out. I was missing some of the libxine packages :-)08:46
jhutchins_ltlydia_: So it looks like it will work at least some of the time?08:46
lydia_oh no08:46
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Cnl_Deltahi, whats the safest way to delete a shared FAT32 partition?08:47
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BluesKajyurimxpxman, yup , ya gotta have them libxines , that's what amarok runs on08:47
jhutchins_ltCnl_Delta: Shared?08:47
jhutchins_ltCnl_Delta: Via what?08:47
aliendoggy<sybux>: Any idea whats wrong?08:47
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Cnl_Deltawell i got a shared FAT32 parition for xp and ubuntu08:47
sybuxaliendoggy: just have a look in folder /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to see if you have a php conf file08:47
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Cnl_Deltai installed xp after ubuntu/kubuntu and now xp thinks the shared parition is the root08:48
jhutchins_ltaliendoggy: You have not configured the mime type for PHP.  Did you restart the server?08:48
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Cnl_Deltaand i plan to re-install xp qhile maintaining kubuntu08:48
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jhutchins_ltCnl_Delta:  I would just use fdisk, you can also use cfdisk or qtparted.08:48
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Cnl_Deltaright now the shared FAT32 partition is recognised as C: and install go automatically into it (its just 4 GB) while xp is in D: which is 55 GB but not default for installs08:49
BluesKaj!grub | Cnl_Delta,08:49
ubotuCnl_Delta,: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:49
Cnl_Deltai got grub working08:49
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Cnl_Deltai just need to delete a shared 32 partition for now08:49
Cnl_Delta*FAT32 partition08:49
lydia_1 s lag08:49
BluesKajyes Cnl_Delta , but if you install windows it'll be gone08:49
lydia_thats just mad08:50
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Cnl_Deltai can delete it out if fstab..08:50
dragannow it works?08:50
lydia_cant connect to host08:50
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draganI am lost... sorry08:51
Cnl_Deltak so i can just use gparted to delete a shared FAT32 partition08:51
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:51
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BluesKajCnl_Delta, I don't see whynot , GParted is the best there is08:54
lydia_im gonna try another irc server just to see if it connects08:54
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Cnl_Deltabest there is outside NTFS resizing and moving :)08:54
NetersLandreauhello.. i'm trying to generate some keys using ecert but get the error of missing libssl.so.4.. any clue where i can locate that lib?08:54
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