[12:16] <firecrotch> Dragnslcr: There may be issues with environment variables and such, I'm not really sure.
[12:16] <Sanne> Dragnslcr: when you check "run as different user" you don't need to put in a username, as running as root is default.
[12:16] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll be back, have to get laundry in the wash before they close
[12:17] <Dragnslcr> Sanne- thanks, I'll just do that. Seems to give the same prompt as kdesu
[12:17] <Sanne> Dragnslcr: I run konqui and kate like that, works fine so far.
[12:18] <Dragnslcr> So how about fixing Firefox? (in case you missed it: I installed MonoDevelop, and apparently it decided that Firefox would look better as a Gnome app instead of KDE. Anyone know how I can change Firefox back to using KDE's rendering libraries?)
[12:18] <firecrotch> Dragnslcr: That's an odd issue.  (side question: How is MonoDevelop?)
[12:19] <firecrotch> I'm used to using Visual Studio for writing VB.NET apps
[12:20] <Dragnslcr> It's pretty good. Couple little things I like in VCS Express better, but I'm sure MonoDevelop is still being improved
[12:22] <Dragnslcr> Current version doesn't support breakpoints, but I think the next version will
[12:22] <firecrotch> Dragnslcr: I'm not very familiar with Mono, but as I understand it, it will allow me to create programs that work in Windows using .NET and in Linux?
[12:23] <Dragnslcr> Mono is pretty much just a Linux version of the .Net libraries and VM
[12:24] <Dragnslcr> I believe it should be able to run .Net apps compiled in Visual Studio. If not, you just have to use Mono to compile a separate version
[12:24] <Graham> Is there any way to get WMA support in Amarok or would I need to get non-official packges
[12:25] <firecrotch> Dragnslcr: Alright, thanks.  I'm installing Mono and MonoDevelop now to play around with it
[12:25] <firecrotch> Dragnslcr: I'll let you know if I get that same problem with Fx from it
[12:25] <Dragnslcr> I really like C#, which is why I like Mono so much
[12:26] <Dragnslcr> Graham- KMenu -> Add/Remove Programs -> Others -> Ubuntu restricted extras
[12:26] <Dragnslcr> That should include all of the media formats and such
[12:28] <Graham> Dragnslcr: You're damn right it should!
[12:28] <elnimr> hi
[12:28] <Graham> I had to install extra files for MP3 to work.
[12:29] <Dragnslcr> Graham- the specific package might be libxine1-ffmpeg
[12:29] <Dragnslcr> I'm not certain it'll work for Amarok. I've only tried wmv's on Kaffeine
[12:29] <arriesp> hi
[12:31] <Graham> And it worked with that package?
[12:31] <CVirus> How can I select my login manager ?
[12:33] <Dragnslcr> It worked with the restricted extras, which I think is actually something like 15-20 packages
[12:34] <Dragnslcr> You can try just libxine1-ffmpeg and see if it works. I couldn't find wmv or wma themselves in Adept
[12:41] <rubikcube> found the icon bug :-)
[12:42] <rubikcube> the file /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/10-usb-music-players.fdi has a wrong entry... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/83327
[12:45] <intelikey> how do you parse variables out of an array ?    ${ary,#}  ?
[12:46] <Dragnslcr> In what language?
[12:46] <Daisuke_Ido> yiddish
[12:46] <Dragnslcr> Oy
[12:47] <intelikey> shell
[12:47] <intelikey> bash
[12:49] <intelikey> Dragnslcr bash
[12:50] <Dragnslcr> Dunno, sorry. I don't think I've written more than 5 lines of bash
[12:51] <intelikey> i got it.   ${ary,[#] }       i was forgetting the [] 
[12:52] <intelikey> that's about how mant lines of array parsing code i've written in bash     about 5 maybe.
[12:53] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[12:53] <Dragnslcr> That looks a bit ugly to me. Even worse than Perl
[12:55] <intelikey> yeah    that may be why i never used arrays...    ary=(something "something else" another "some more something") ;echo ${ary,[4] }
[12:55] <jcobreros> Can anyone help me? I dont know how to set up the KDE taskbar to only show apps in the active desktop, no the other three. Im using kubuntu 7.04 + beryl
[12:56] <firecrotch> jcobreros: It's not possible, AFAIK
[12:57] <firecrotch> jcobreros: Beryl uses virtual desktops within one KDE desktop, so to the KDE taskbar, they're all on the same desktop
[12:57] <klaus_> i am back, with edgy eft ... dvd works fine :-)
[12:57] <jcobreros> ohhh. thats what it looked like, but i wasnt quite sure. thank you firecrotch
[12:58] <firecrotch> jcobreros: you're welcome :)
[12:58] <klaus_> does anybody know from wich source i get lsdvd ?
[12:58] <stdin> intelikey: ary,? (why the comma?)
[01:06] <intelikey> stdin ah  an oversite.   i wasn't using a comma in my script....   ;/
[01:06] <intelikey> hehhe   oh well.
[01:06] <stdin> was just wondering :p
[01:08] <Black_Mask> what does 'exiting on signal 15' mean?
[01:09] <stdin> means the app got a SIGTERM
[01:09] <Dragnslcr> firecrotch- in case you're wondering, my Firefox theme is only messed up when I use the special key on my keyboard. It works fine if I open it through Quicklaunch or the KMenu
[01:10] <backherozzo> ciaop ragazzi
[01:10] <klaus_> hello, which is the right sources.lst-entry to get mplayer-nogui ?
[01:10] <backherozzo> c' qualke italiano all'ascolto?
[01:10] <facugaich> !it > backherozzo
[01:10] <Hirvinen> !it | backherozzo
[01:10] <ubotu> backherozzo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:11] <backherozzo> excuse
[01:11] <backherozzo> me
[01:11] <firecrotch> Dragnslcr: Alright, I can't test that since I don't have special keys on my keyboard (stupid laptop)
[01:11] <backherozzo> i speak english
[01:11] <facugaich> do I need sun-java6-source to build java apps?
[01:11] <firecrotch> backherozzo: how can we be of assistance?
[01:12] <Dragnslcr> firecrotch- yeah, it's weird, because ps lists it as /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin both ways
[01:12] <backherozzo> you are very polite
[01:12] <firecrotch> Dragnslcr: That's quite... odd
[01:14] <Dragnslcr> firecrotch- yeah, no kidding
[01:14] <azzco> Hi I need some help here... I messed around with beryl and ended up deleting my .kde directory in home, now apt doesn't work
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> my head now hurts.  someone was boasting about his small 5gb install of xp >_<
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> how does messing around with beryl lead to deleting .kde?
[01:14] <firecrotch> Dragnslcr:  Maybe ask about it in #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[01:15] <Dragnslcr> firecrotch- hm, works fine now. I just set the action for the key again
[01:15] <Dragnslcr> Really bizarre
[01:15] <drini> is it possible to get kernel 2.6.21 from some repo? if so, what hsould I add to sources.list ? (I want to use pwoertop , but it needs NO_HZ and CONFIG_TIMER_STATS, both disabled on default 2.6.20-15 kernel)
[01:15] <Dragnslcr> Must have been something cached weird in KeyTouch or something
[01:15] <firecrotch> Dragnslcr:  yeah
[01:15] <azzco> Daisuke_Ido: it was complaining about composite being in use and I read that kde could be the problem...
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> I'm just glad I got it fixed. The Gnome/GTK rendering was butt-ugly
[01:16] <Graham> Could somebody PLEASE tell me what I have to do for WMA support in amarok?
[01:16] <facugaich> do I need sun-java6-source to build java apps?
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> !wma
[01:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:16] <azzco> Graham doesn't win32codecs work?
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> One of those links might help, Graham
[01:17] <Graham> azzco: Where? it's not in the repo
[01:17] <azzco> IT should be a thirdparty repo
[01:17] <Graham> Such as?
[01:17] <azzco> Search for medibuntu with google
[01:17] <Graham> No it's too slow.
[01:17] <Graham> !repositories
[01:17] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:19] <Graham> What other third party repos can I use?
[01:22] <Graham> I found some, installed w32codecs and amarok crashes when it tries to play them!
[01:22] <stdin> Graham: this page tells you how to install w32codecs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[01:23] <facugaich> do I need sun-java6-source to build java apps?
[01:23] <Graham> Yes.
[01:23] <stdin> no
[01:23] <Graham> Ok.
[01:23] <azzco> okay so my apt complains about deb in sources.list... does anyone know how to give it a "definition" or something?
[01:24] <facugaich> is it no or yes?
[01:24] <stdin> facugaich: you only need the jdk, the -source is for compiling jave itself
[01:24] <facugaich> ok, thanks
[01:24] <peyote> facugaich: dont think so. you need jdk
[01:25] <Graham> Crashed again.
[01:25] <Graham> Fuck it, it's shit. I'm going.
[01:26] <stdin> ooh, some one is cranky today
[01:28] <Iviv> hi
[01:28] <Iviv> I have a problem installing kubuntu on a hp nx 6110 laptop
[01:28] <Iviv>  it installs ok, but on first reboot I get an "Error loading system.." error. I have no idea what to do and google didn't return any results. Could anyone help me find a solution?
[01:29] <drini> ...
[01:30] <Iviv> drini? :D
[01:30] <drini> is it possible to get kernel 2.6.21 from some repo? if so, what hsould I add to sources.list ? (I want to use pwoertop , but it needs NO_HZ and CONFIG_TIMER_STATS, both disabled on default 2.6.20-15 kernel)
[01:30] <drini> that ;)
[01:30] <scanman> selam trk var m
[01:32] <scanman> hello
[01:32] <Iviv> hi
[01:41] <jtt> Iviv,  you there
[01:41] <BluesKaj> !tr | scanman
[01:41] <ubotu> scanman: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[01:42] <jtt> Iviv, you want some help on your problem
[01:42] <scanman> ok ok inallah gireni olurda yardm alrz.
[01:44] <williams294> Hello everyone....I'm having trouble upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04
[01:44] <williams294> I'm trying to use the CD to upgrade
[01:45] <williams294> the ubuntu site says the gksu command wont' work if I don't install it....but I don't know how to install it
[01:45] <williams294> anyone?
[01:45] <williams294> hello?
[01:45] <david2_> anyone what?
[01:45] <williams294_> I'm trying to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 using the CD
[01:46] <jtt> williams294_,   apt-get install gksu  will install it
[01:46] <scanman> Dier odada kimse yok-dvdrom almyor iine giriyor ama almyor,iindeki dvdyide okuyor nasl halledeceim
[01:46] <BluesKaj> williams294_, sudo apt-get install gksu
[01:46] <williams294_> I did that, it said it was already installed
[01:46] <jtt> will=should install it
[01:46] <david2_> I am too tired to think
[01:46] <david2_> I just ran 3 miles
[01:46] <williams294_> let me double check
[01:46] <facugaich> is NetBeans 5.5 supposed to not work in Kubuntu + Beryl?
[01:47] <williams294_> OK yes, says it's at the newest version already
[01:47] <jtt> david2_, running is not allowed on this channel :)
[01:47] <david2_> Why bwouldn't it?
[01:47] <david2_> Ban me my job requires it... ARMY
[01:47] <jtt> williams294_, are you upgrading to  ubuntu or kubuntu
[01:47] <david2_> Aint like I can quit
[01:47] <williams294_> I'm on Kubuntu 6.10...I have a Ubuntu 7.04 CD in the drive
[01:48] <williams294_> that's a problem isn't it?
[01:48] <jtt> williams294_, believe you have to change desktops first then upgrade
[01:49] <williams294_> ahh ok
[01:49] <williams294_> I'll give that a try, thanks
[01:49] <jtt> williams294_, also have you read the instructions on using the CD as the upgrade sourece
[01:49] <williams294_> I have thanks
[01:49] <jtt> williams294_, good luck
[01:49] <williams294_> it says you just need to run a command, and it'll pop up
[01:49] <williams294_> thanks bye, I'll bback if i does not work
[01:50] <A_b> Question. - i burnt a kubuntu live cd - my roommate wants to find out if it will drive her computer - will this cd drive the machine? not sure of how live cds work :)
[01:52] <jtt> A_b, just have your roomate boot the cd it will not touch the existing OS oh her machine
[01:53] <A_b> okay thanks - will it give me access to internet to see if eth is working etc??
[01:54] <jtt> A_b, should if you dont have any funny ethernet cards
[01:54] <flake> I have two drives, each has a partition but I have to enter a password when using the File Browser before they show up on my desktop - do I have to mount the partitions to be able to see them right off?
[01:54] <A_b> ok thanks - it is pretty generic i think
[01:55] <jtt> A_b, yes should work on 95% of most x86 arch out of the box
[01:55] <flake> I used that ntfs- tool to find each harddrive primary partition
[01:55] <A_b> just do it :) hahhaa
[01:55] <jtt> !ntfs |flake
[01:55] <ubotu> flake: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:56] <arriesp> bye
[01:57] <jtt> time to eat dinner
[01:59] <david2_> need to look up CAC readers for linux
[01:59] <david2_> woohoo
[01:59] <david2_> I doubt there is support for such a thing
[02:02] <mahdi_> dependency question: when it says "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" what is it referring to?
[02:04] <creadorcreativo> mahdi_: sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev
[02:10] <intelikey> i need some regex help.   how to turn \n^\t  into null ?
[02:12] <dealer_> Is there some way i can reset my root password ? I actually forgot it :8
[02:13] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[02:13] <Daisuke_Ido> you shouldn't have one
[02:13] <intelikey> dealer_ yes.    there is.   if you have root jr. access   sudo passwd
[02:14] <intelikey> dealer_ also the default would be   sudo passwd -dl root
[02:15] <dealer_> dealer@BAMF:~$ sudo passwd -dl root
[02:15] <dealer_> Password:
[02:15] <dealer_> Password changed.
[02:15] <dealer_> dealer@BAMF:~$ su
[02:15] <dealer_> Password:
[02:15] <dealer_> su: Authentication failure
[02:15] <dealer_> Sorry.
[02:15] <intelikey> why are you trying to use su with a locked root password ?
[02:15] <intelikey> don't use su
[02:15] <dealer_> what to use then ?
[02:15] <intelikey> sudo -i
[02:16] <intelikey> or if you must use su    sudo su -
[02:16] <dealer_> thanks alot m8
[02:16] <intelikey> same results from both ^
[02:17] <intelikey> i would actually sujest not using root jr.   but they gripe at me for that....
[02:17] <intelikey> clearification    they = ubuntu staff
[02:17] <sl00> Hi. Is there a way to add all the applications on www.getdeb.net into the Adept Manager?
[02:20] <intelikey> that would  NOT  be supported by ubuntu.
[02:20] <intelikey> is it possable, yes probably.
[02:21] <sl00> Why would not adding another repository to the Adept Manager be supporteD?
[02:22] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not even set up as a repo, just a selection of a few applications
[02:22] <mc__> sl00: he probably meant that that the packages wouldnt be supported
[02:22] <Daisuke_Ido> not really enough to worry about making a repo for.
[02:23] <sl00> Hmm Ok
[02:23] <sl00> Well I downloaded Pidgin from Getdeb. But when I right-click and select 'Install package' it starts but then it says I am missing dependencies. Do I have to manually install the dependencies or can I have it do it automaticly?
[02:24] <intelikey> that's why it's not supported   ^
[02:25] <Dragnslcr> Anybody know offhand what command is run and/or file is altered when you set monitor power saving in the system settings?
[02:25] <sl00> Maybe so but I can still ask for help on how to get it working can I not?
[02:25] <intelikey> non-ubuntu repos tend to cause problems with ubuntu systems.
[02:25] <intelikey> sl00 sure you can ask.
[02:26] <sl00> Is there any ETA on Pidgin for the *ubuntu repos?
[02:27] <crimsun> sl00: it entered gutsy several hours ago; it may be backported soon.
[02:28] <sl00> Gutsy?
[02:29] <intelikey> sl00 as to the dependancy issue.    one can install a non-supported .deb  via dpkg -i path/to/packagename.deb    then after it finishes    apt-get install -f      <<< all as root of course.    that should pull in the deps and finish configuring the package.   but if it fails it may cause even more dependancy problems.   so it's  NOT supported.   don't blame the team if you hose your box with such.
[02:30] <sl00> intelikey: Ok. Thanks. I will wait instead.
[02:32] <Rictoo> How do I start xserver in terminal again -.-'
[02:33] <sl00> startx?
[02:33] <Rictoo> thanks :D
[02:34] <intelikey> if all you want is the server   X
[02:34] <intelikey> or   X &
[02:37] <intelikey> if you want the server and an ENV of some sort then startx is good for the default ENV    or X & sleep 7 ;export DISPLAY=':0' twm    <<<< for twm   name your poison.
[02:38] <semistud2354> im trying to install beryl on my laptop...it has an ATI Radeon Xpress 200m, 64-bit...and of course im using feisty...any suggestions or websights?????????
[02:38] <goat> hello everyone..  I have a fresh install of kubuntu on a dell laptop with an ati9000 mobility video card
[02:38] <goat> hah
[02:39] <goat> I have a similar thing to semis
[02:39] <semistud2354> lol
[02:39] <intelikey> !ati | semistud2354
[02:39] <ubotu> semistud2354: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:39] <goat> gratz
[02:40] <semistud2354> goat....you tryin to get beryl too
[02:40] <semistud2354> lol
[02:40] <goat> well  I already have beryl installed
[02:40] <goat> just doesn't work correctly
[02:40] <goat> installing beryl is the easy part
[02:40] <goat> I am just having troubles with the drivers as I am on holliday
[02:41] <goat> my home machine works great
[02:41] <wolferine> ati or nvidia?
[02:41] <goat> and I am LOVING Kubuntu
[02:41] <goat> I am more of a KDE guy
[02:41] <goat> ATI mobility 9000
[02:41] <wolferine> ah, too bad
[02:41] <wolferine> hehe
[02:41] <goat> not nice  =P
[02:42] <goat> wolferine  will I have little to no luck with my OLD ati 9000
[02:42] <goat> I mean.. I can wait till I get home to try again on my ATI 9500 PRO which is a great GREAT card
[02:42] <semistud2354> yea i have to say that kde is better
[02:42] <goat> I already have it working on my nvidia 6800 at home
[02:43] <goat> well  I am coming from  a world of BSD
[02:43] <goat> and have always KDE'ed
[02:43] <semistud2354> but im having trouble trying to get this 200m driver installed/working
[02:43] <goat> me likes PCBSD too
[02:43] <goat> semistud..  you going through the faq they just linked us too?
[02:43] <goat> I am about to run through it
[02:44] <goat> and if all goes ok I will let ya know
[02:44] <semistud2354> thanx
[02:44] <goat> just because I am new to linux / *ubuntu does not mean I am new to *nix and CLI
[02:44] <goat> I am BSD   CLI is my buddy
[02:44] <semistud2354> im semi new....some ppl that give help here...they work for kubuntu
[02:45] <semistud2354> or the company behind kubuntu
[02:45] <goat> well  let me run through the doc they linked us to
[02:45] <goat> and I will let you know how it goes for me
[02:46] <goat> if I can't follow these instuctions
[02:46] <goat> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-796aa4d6d0477c8ed722acef1878cc5626855ae3
[02:46] <goat> I should be shot  =P
[02:46] <semistud2354> yea im lookin at that 2
[02:47] <semistud2354> it says something about going in and selecting ati accelerated drivers
[02:47] <semistud2354> i dont get that
[02:47] <semistud2354> kubuntu doesnt have that
[02:47] <goat> grr  I just hit some dependancies
[02:47] <Herzi> Hello peaple
[02:47] <goat> LOL
[02:47] <goat> time for fun  =P
[02:48] <semistud2354> whats it on kubuntu
[02:49] <goat> wow  I suck
[02:49] <Herzi> yes
[02:49] <goat> shoot me
[02:49] <goat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20906/
[02:50] <goat> I am fixing those up
[02:51] <goat> guess I broke an earlier install of java and firefox
[02:51] <goat> as soon as its fixed I will move on
[02:51] <goat> sorry for the delay
[02:52] <semistud2354> you trying to figure out how to get the driver for 200m
[02:53] <semistud2354> ??
[02:53] <goat> who
[02:53] <goat> me/
[02:53] <goat> no
[02:53] <goat> but I gotta cycle the box
[02:53] <goat> brb
[02:55] <A_b> I tried the kubuntu live cd and couldn't get to boot on roommates computer so burning another cd - could this be non compate ?? or just a write error ?? I am hoping for a burn error :)
[02:55] <semistud2354> im trying to install beryl on my laptop...it has an ATI Radeon Xpress 200m, 64-bit...and of course im using feisty...any suggestions or websights?????????
[02:57] <FunnyLookinHat> I know everyone probably asks this... but has anyone tried the new KDE4 alpha with Feisty?
[02:57] <goat> sorry  my neighbor here on holliday knows I am on his wireless and he keeps kicking me off
[02:58] <goat> I told him I would help him secure it TOMORROW before I leave  LOL
[02:59] <FunnyLookinHat> goat, just secure it with WEP... you can crack that in like 5 minutes with AirSnort
[02:59] <FunnyLookinHat> ; )
[03:00] <sl00> AirSnort only works on a small range of devices tho.
[03:00] <sl00> IIRC
[03:01] <goat> nah  I will help him for real...   I didn't have to tell him I was borrowing...  but I am a nice guy
[03:01] <goat> and the internet at the place I am staying is to be fixxed next week..  AFTER i leave
[03:01] <goat> and I assure you I will write down and keep his key in case
[03:02] <goat> as I will be back next year too
[03:02] <goat> VA Beach USA
[03:02] <goat> its a pretty place
[03:03] <goat> actually a place to the south called Sandbridge..  its nice and secluded
[03:03] <goat> but they have FIOS here too
[03:03] <goat> err he does
[03:03] <goat> ok  back to task
[03:05] <goat> hrm  I don't seem to see the "restricted driver manager" in kubuntu
[03:05] <goat> as per the afor mentioned faq
[03:06] <goat> and as for airsnort  I dunno if it will work with my dell 1350 wireless chip
[03:10] <goat> Semistud...  do we have to do this the edgey way ?  does Kubuntu not have the restricted driver manager?
[03:12] <Daisuke_Ido> kubuntu does not have the restricted driver manager per se
[03:12] <Daisuke_Ido> but video drivers and the like are available in Add/Remove Programs (adept installer)
[03:13] <semistud2354> o srry
[03:13] <semistud2354> umm
[03:13] <semistud2354> it does
[03:13] <semistud2354> restricted drivers are in the same place...but they changed it
[03:13] <semistud2354> lol
[03:13] <semistud2354> shocked me too
[03:14] <semistud2354> im trying to find out how to get my 200m card to work with beryl
[03:14] <semistud2354> lol
[03:15] <goat> uh.... uhm   "restricted drivers are in the same place...but they changed it"  elaborate...
[03:16] <semistud2354> i cant find them
[03:16] <semistud2354> wheres the restricted drivers...
[03:16] <goat> LOL
[03:16] <semistud2354> for ubuntu its like in system settings
[03:17] <semistud2354> but im not sure were it is in kubutu
[03:17] <mahdi_> whats the name of the qt header and footer libraries?
[03:18] <Daisuke_Ido> Add/Remove Programs
[03:18] <Jucato> mahdi_: libqt3-mt-dev for Qt 3 Headers (there are not footer libraries)
[03:18] <Daisuke_Ido> under System
[03:19] <Daisuke_Ido> it's NOT the same as the restricted driver manager, but it is a quick way to install video drivers
[03:19] <mahdi_> neat-o
[03:19] <aro> Netsplit
[03:20] <Daisuke_Ido> very perceptive :)
[03:20] <pollyo> Hello
[03:20] <Daisuke_Ido> why is it that whenever there's a split, someone has to actively mention that it's happening even though everyone can see it?  it happens everywhere, and i don't know why
[03:20] <Daisuke_Ido> heck, i've even done it
[03:20] <pollyo> When you go to select files for upload with firefox does it show thumbnail pictures?
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> let me find out, but i don't think so
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> not here it doesn't
[03:23] <semistud2354> does anyone have a radeon 200m card, that has beryl installed
[03:23] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: Any idea if Konqueror will?
[03:24] <goat> well  poop  I already added them through aptget
[03:24] <goat> now if I do it with addremove it automagically starts using them ?
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> since konqueror uses kde file dialogs, i would imagine it can be set to show thumbnails, at least thumbnail icons
[03:26] <pollyo> Daisuke_Ido: I'll find out just as soon as myspace allows me to request my password.
[03:27] <el_isma> Hello! I've found a bug, i've tried #ubuntu-bugs but nobody answered me. My Xorg server is leaking memory (300M+ after 1 day) but I don't know how to provide useful information for solving the bug. I suspect it either has to do with xorg 1.2 or with nvidia-glx-new (or both?). What should I do?
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> did you report it on launchpad?
[03:28] <crimsun> el_isma: does the memory return after a restart of X.org?
[03:28] <el_isma> Daisuke_Ido: No, I don't have enough info for it to be useful, I guess
[03:28] <el_isma> crimsun: Yes, it does
[03:28] <crimsun> el_isma: if it does, then it's not X.org but a client.
[03:29] <el_isma> crimsun: ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't restart the whole x-server?
[03:29] <crimsun> el_isma: it kills the X server.  Whether it's brought back up is up to a script.
[03:29] <crimsun> you have a misbehaving X Window System app, most probably
[03:29] <el_isma> crimsun: If I do that, I get the ram back.
[03:30] <el_isma> crimsun: How do I find out?
[03:30] <crimsun> el_isma: valgrind your X apps used
[03:31] <goat> well  I show beryl running
[03:31] <goat> but
[03:31] <goat> no wiggles and jiggles
[03:31] <el_isma> crimsun: I've got no experience with valgrind. Any pointers?
[03:31] <goat> but i have been distracted by the family a bit here
[03:31] <pollyo> brb
[03:31] <rcrook> hi all, just been following a thread on launchpad about the texas instruments card reader problem. there was mention of s patch kernel. I was wondering how I can get the pre-released patched kernel?
[03:32] <sl00> What do I need to play Xvid/AC3 files with Kaffine/Amarok?
[03:32] <crimsun> el_isma: the manual.
[03:33] <el_isma> crimsun: I've also found a similar bug report in gentoo's forums. They said that xorg version +1 and -1 didn't have the bug. And that the bug wasn't nvidia specific. I don't know if it really was the same bug I've got.
[03:33] <semistud2354> is it possible to run berl on a radon xpress 200m with feisty
[03:33] <purpleposeidon> el_isma: 0xf32ab2
[03:33] <el_isma> purpleposeidon: Very old joke. :)
[03:33] <purpleposeidon> incredibly.
[03:34] <Daisuke_Ido> semistud2354: if you use fglry, possibly, but as a rule, ati isn't that lovely
[03:34] <Daisuke_Ido> flgrx...  fglrx...  something like that
[03:35] <goat> well  I have beryl launch   but I have to walk the artist out  be back in about 15 minutes
[03:36] <semistud2354> i had beryl working on edgy
[03:37] <semistud2354> if that means anything
[03:37] <dealer_> how do i install *.deb files?
[03:37] <el_isma> dealer_: rigth click on the file, look for a menu entry
[03:37] <rcrook> dealer_: dpkg -i <file>
[03:37] <dealer_> thanks
[03:38] <semistud2354> some websits tell me to do something in "restricted drivers"
[03:38] <semistud2354> but thats in ubuntu
[03:38] <dealer_> didnt get anything up on 'man deb*
[03:38] <semistud2354> im using kubuntu
[03:38] <el_isma> semistud2354: install restricted_manager package. It shows up somewhere in the menu. Run it and it will install those restricted drivers
[03:39] <el_isma> I really don't get why Kubuntu doesn't include restricted_manager by default! :(
[03:39] <donutman> hi can someone tell me how to reset the password that i use to get into administrator mode?
[03:39] <el_isma> dealer_: try "man deb"
[03:40] <rcrook> donutman: in the shell window type "passwd"
[03:40] <goat> I just now did the add remove programs and added the ati GL drivers
[03:40] <goat> lemme cycly the machine and see how goes
[03:41] <donutman> ok i did that  but it says conversation with su failed
[03:41] <sl00> Does not anyone kniw what I need to play Xvid/AC3 files with Kaffine/Amarok?
[03:41] <sl00> know*
[03:41] <el_isma> that's an anti-netsplit?
[03:42] <el_isma> that's an anti-netsplit!
[03:42] <dope> how do i set a user account to where he doesn't need root access to modify files in a certain directory
[03:44] <lisan-al-gaib> dope: make that user part of a group that only they are a part of then just modify it to only allow members of that group
[03:44] <dope> how do I do that?
[03:44] <dope> i'm not familiar with groups
[03:45] <lisan-al-gaib> you can go to system settings > User Management > groups
[03:46] <sl00> What do I need to play Xvid/AC3 files with Kaffine/Amarok? (I repeat due to the splits)
[03:46] <lisan-al-gaib> switch to administrator mode, add a new group, make a new user, then add him to taht group
[03:46] <n4zgul> hello people, someone can help me with a simple question? what i make for the konqueror dont get the current web page symbol for the taskbar/?
[03:46] <dope> lisan-al-gaib: i don't have a gui
[03:46] <donutman> when i type my correct password to get into administrator mode it tells me "conversation with su failed"
[03:46] <lisan-al-gaib> dope: well then, let me think for a second
[03:46] <dope> i did the addgroup command
[03:46] <dope> so I have a new group i believe
[03:47] <lisan-al-gaib> did you add a user as well?
[03:47] <dope> there's no users in the group yet
[03:47] <el_isma> crimsun: Looking through the launchpad bugs I've found the problem: Flash leaks memory! I've closed the window that had flash running and Xorg is back to 50Mb! :D --Stupid flash!--
[03:47] <dope> unless it puts some in there by default
[03:47] <lisan-al-gaib> dope: it does not, but have you created the user you want to add to it yet?
[03:47] <dope> yea
[03:48] <semistud2354> i have restricted manager installed...its a termanal program
[03:48] <semistud2354> or something
[03:48] <semistud2354> theres no gui
[03:48] <semistud2354> how do you run it in the konsole
[03:48] <ismael_> semistud2354: It should be a gtk program :|
[03:48] <lisan-al-gaib> i believe if you just use "sudo adduser ::insert user here:: ::insert group here::" it shuold add that user to that group
[03:49] <semistud2354> its a picture of a python
[03:49] <semistud2354> for the icon
[03:49] <semistud2354> so...im guessing its a konsole thing
[03:49] <semistud2354> lol...i even reinstalled it
[03:49] <dope> lisan-al-gaib: even if i've already created the user?
[03:50] <lisan-al-gaib> dope: yes, you need to add him to that group as well
[03:51] <dope> whoa i just had a power sag
[03:52] <dope> ok done
[03:52] <dope> so the user is in that group
[03:52] <n4zgul> hello people, someone can help me with a simple question? what i make for the konqueror dont get the current web page symbol for the taskbar?
[03:53] <lisan-al-gaib> dope: have to read up on chmod, thats the command to change permissions
[03:53] <dope> mmk
[03:53] <dope> how do I know if the user is actually in the group?
[03:54] <lisan-al-gaib> dope: under CLI? not sure, i'll see if i can find that out while i'm at it
[03:55] <carutsu> hello, does anyone know if thunderbird 2.0 is on backports?
[03:55] <carutsu> !info thunderbird2
[03:55] <lisan-al-gaib> dope: you have w3m or some other text browser?
[03:55] <ubotu> Package thunderbird2 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:55] <dope> i'm on a windows machine using ssh to get to the server
[03:56] <Jucato> carutsu: for which ubuntu release?
[03:56] <lisan-al-gaib> dope: ah-ha, now makes more sense
[03:56] <carutsu> Jucato: Feisty
[03:56] <lisan-al-gaib> dope: http://catcode.com/teachmod/
[03:57] <Jucato> carutsu: so far nothing yet
[03:58] <carutsu> Jucato: sorry?
[03:58] <Jucato> carutsu: nothing in backports or updates
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> carutsu: its not
[03:59] <carutsu> Jucato, Admiral_Chicago weird, shouldnt it?
[04:00] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago would know best :)
[04:00] <carutsu> xD
[04:00] <sl00> Hmm. My sound is not working. What should I do ?
[04:00] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago: I think I'll have to compile myself
[04:00] <carutsu> !sound|sl00
[04:00] <ubotu> sl00: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:00] <Jucato> carutsu: I'm guessing that 1) it's already being packaged and 2) it's just waiting to get approved and then backported
[04:01] <carutsu> Jucato: wow, ok, ill wait a bit, although it's been some time since it hit the gold status
[04:01] <flake> how do i add item to kmenu
[04:01] <Jucato> carutsu: um... make that 3) it's already in Gutsy, just waiting to be backported
[04:01] <carutsu> Jucato: thank you xD
[04:01] <Jucato> flake: right-click on the K Menu icon and select Menu Editor
[04:01] <carutsu> flake: add what>
[04:01] <carutsu> flake: nevermind, just obey Jucato
[04:01] <carutsu> xD
[04:01] <flake> ahh cool  ty
[04:02] <Jucato> carutsu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/mail/mozilla-thunderbird
[04:02] <Admiral_Chicago>  well considering 1.5 is a stable release that is still getting security updates. It also does not meet the requirements of backports.
[04:02] <flake> wine ~/games/SimCity4/Apps..   :)
[04:02] <Admiral_Chicago> too many dependency issues imo
[04:02] <carutsu> !backports
[04:02] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[04:02] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago: mmm, so they dont include them unless is really needed?
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:03] <n4zgul> what can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?
[04:03] <Admiral_Chicago> the requirements are at the bottem
[04:03] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago: ok
[04:04] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago: if I'm _downloading_ updates, i can safely close adept, right?
[04:05] <Admiral_Chicago> carutsu: no
[04:05] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago: eh? no? so i gotta wait for it?
[04:05] <Admiral_Chicago> no if the updates come through adept that is
[04:05] <dealer_> can i run a *.run file ?
[04:05] <dealer_> i've just downloaded latest ati driver, and it's an *.run file
[04:06] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago: mmm, i *must* turn off my pc now
[04:06] <carutsu> Admiral_Chicago: well i should pray then, xD
[04:06] <Admiral_Chicago> carutsu: there is a way to recover from it...
[04:07] <sl00> carutsu: That information was for Gnome tho. I have done what they said with the Applications I have installed. Still nothing.
[04:07] <carutsu> sl00: have you tryed Kmix volume?, how about alsamixer?
[04:08] <Ninina> Hello
[04:08] <Jucato> carutsu: as long as it hasn't started installing (just downloading), it's practically safe to stop it
[04:08] <sl00> carutsu: Heh. Yes ofcourse
[04:08] <sl00> carutsu: Everything looks fine and I have all volumes at 100%
[04:08] <carutsu> Jucato: that's what i thought, i was scared to hear that
[04:09] <Ninina> How would I go about installing NDISWrapper and making it run on start up?
[04:09] <carutsu> sl00: sorry to /hear/ that xD, no well i mean it, i'm not by any means good at sound
[04:09] <sl00> Ok
[04:09] <carutsu> well i should leave now
[04:09] <carutsu> see you all around
[04:10] <n4zgul> see ya
[04:10] <n4zgul> see ya
[04:10] <n4zgul> what can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?
[04:13] <dope> i cannot seem to change this directory's group to a different one
[04:13] <dope> i've punched in every command i've found on the web
[04:14] <arkanabar> When gnome was default desktop, I had an option menu on the login screen that let me choose session type.  Now that KDE is default desktop, that menu is gone.
[04:14] <dope> i just want to change a directory to a different group so I don't need root access to modify anything
[04:15] <WillLuongo> How can I find out what version of the kernel I have from the command prompt?
[04:16] <peyote> uname -a
[04:16] <n4zgul> what can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?
[04:17] <WillLuongo> peyote: thanks
[04:17] <sagematt> Hey guys, since I'm on dialup I downloaded the required packages for ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop at a friend's house, but now I need a way to install all those packages. Any suggestions?
[04:17] <dope> burn to cd
[04:18] <peyote> dpkg -i packagename.deb
[04:18] <arkanabar> sagematt:  copy packages to CD, and then add that CD to your custom repositories.
[04:18] <sagematt> peyote: it gave me too many errors
[04:18] <peyote> sagematt: maybe you dont have the dependent packages
[04:18] <sagematt> arkanabar: can I just burn then, without the need for any special directory tree?
[04:19] <familia> hi
[04:19] <peyote> ceck dependencies....
[04:19] <sagematt> peyote: I do, I did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop on a clean install, and saved the packages
[04:19] <peyote> +h
[04:19] <arkanabar> sagematt, never done it, just seen that it's possible to put a CD into list of repositories
[04:19] <sl00> Can someone help me get my sound working? I have tried everything I can think of. I have unmuted everything and set volumes to max on everything in 'alsamixer'. In KMix everything is att max aswell. Sound ystem is enabled in the 'Sound System - System Settings'.
[04:19] <sl00> Please help.
[04:19] <dope> i just want to change a directory to a different group so I don't need root access to modify anything
[04:19] <familia> anyone has time to help me?
[04:20] <familia> i'm new with linux (kubuntu)
[04:20] <arkanabar> Familia, just ask your questions.
[04:20] <familia> and i downloaded firefox, but i don't know how to install it
[04:20] <peyote> dope: man chown
[04:20] <familia> its a .tar.gz file
[04:20] <arkanabar> familia, you should use synaptic, aptitude, or apt-get to install packages.
[04:20] <familia> y have kubuntu dapper drake
[04:20] <sagematt> arkanabar: It doesn't seem to be that easy. Remember that ubuntu cds use a very specific directory index for packages.
[04:20] <intelikey> familia why did you do that ?
[04:21] <familia> i tried to use aptitude
[04:21] <familia> and i don't hace synaptic
[04:21] <arkanabar> sagematt, never done it, just seen that it's possible to put a CD into list of repositories
[04:21] <familia> and my kubuntu is updated
[04:21] <familia> have**
[04:21] <intelikey> familia sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox
[04:21] <n4zgul> someone can help me? what can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?
[04:21] <dope> i've used chown and chmod and chgrp and none of it works
[04:22] <peyote> sabakas1: yes i think to use the cd as repository you have to make sure it has a certain structure
[04:22] <dope> it's the /var/www diretory does that matter?
[04:22] <familia> thanks, i'm going to try that
[04:22] <ismael_> sagematt: Look for aptoncd. Never used it, but I think it does what you need.
[04:22] <Sebascii> hi
[04:23] <Sebascii> can anyone tell me the difference between a "shell" and a "linux console" ?
[04:23] <familia> IT WORKS AHAHAH
[04:23] <familia> LOL THANKS
[04:23] <peyote> dope: chown username.groupname dir
[04:24] <A_b> Question - i burnt the live cd and it came out in german is there eng version? It works so not really concerned but would like to do kopete with keyboard that makes sense :)
[04:24] <familia> doesn't shell is the vista console?
[04:24] <peyote> Sebascii: is there any? I use the terms synonym....
[04:24] <intelikey> Sebascii sure    the linux console is the real vt/tty running in kernel land.  the shell is the command intrepter running both within the console and also with terminal emulators like konsole gnome-termanal xterm eterm aterm rxvt and others
[04:25] <A_b> keyboard didn't function in us english
[04:25] <sagematt> Nevermind, found it: 2.2 How to use APT locally: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html <-- It's a pain in the ass, though
[04:25] <Sebascii> intelikey: could you give me an example please? wich difference could i found if i execute a command in shell or console?
[04:26] <intelikey> Sebascii to access a "console"  press  alt+ctrl+f1    use alt+f7 to return to the console in which your xserver is running.
[04:26] <intelikey> Sebascii is that example enough ?
[04:26] <Sebascii> intelikey: There's an applet in kde that gives you a shell option and a linux console option (and python interpreter, root shell, etc)
[04:27] <ismael_> Sebascii: Konsole?
[04:27] <intelikey> the "linux console option"  i assume is a misnomer.
[04:27] <n4zgul> someone can help me? what can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?
[04:27] <Sebascii> intelikey: I cound't find any difference, but for the font color
[04:27] <Sebascii> ismael_:  the two option opens a konsole
[04:28] <intelikey> Sebascii did you press alt+ctrl+f1 ?
[04:28] <Sebascii> ismael_: but with different profile
[04:28] <_john> hey there
[04:28] <Sebascii> intelikey: yes...
[04:29] <intelikey> and it took you to a "linux console"   no?
[04:29] <Sebascii> intelikey: have you tried the terminal sessions applet?
[04:29] <familia> hey
[04:29] <intelikey> as i said.   the thing in the kmenu is a misnomer.
[04:30] <familia> how do i install drivers for a nvidia geforce fx 5200 in kubuntu?
[04:30] <intelikey> they all go to a konsole terminal emulator.   not to a console.
[04:30] <_john> im given john a hand here and it turns out that this kubuntu thing is too much for him to deal with so we'd like to turn this box into a dual boot. currently only kubuntu is installed on the whole drive (a 30g HDA)  where can I find info to take the steps to resize the drive and make it a dual boot with (cringe) XP ?
[04:30] <Sebascii> intelikey: so the only difference is the font color? weird... :S
[04:31] <intelikey> Sebascii yes.  i've seen the konsole idea of a "linux console"   it's still just a terminal emulator.
[04:31] <Sebascii> intelikey: so the profile is the same?
[04:31] <sl00> I cannot get my sound working! I have tried what I can think of and what is said @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems ... but nothing works. Here is my ALSA-info: http://pastebin.ca/488579 .. Can someone please help me out?
[04:31] <Sebascii> intelikey: thanks :)
[04:32] <intelikey> Sebascii i don't know.     close enough to same that i didn't notice any differance.
[04:32] <A_b> So Kubuntu is there an english version of Kubuntu livecd??
[04:33] <intelikey> A_b yeah.
[04:33] <peyote> _john: take a look at gparted maybe
[04:33] <A_b> can i get a link Please :)
[04:33] <intelikey> ubuntu.com
[04:34] <A_b> thanks - intelikey :)
[04:36] <_john> peyote: thanks, that should partition the drive but is it possible to get xp to not overwrite the boot sector and wipe out grub?
[04:36] <intelikey> i hear you knocken but ya can't come in....
[04:36] <Bree> ..lol
[04:37] <sagematt> alright, I'm never doing dpkg -i *deb again. It was silly...
[04:38] <intelikey> __john   according to that output you should have sound.
[04:38] <intelikey> did he leave ?
[04:38] <intelikey> _john   according to that output you should have sound.
[04:38] <_john> darn i figure I should still upgrade from last years kubuntu by first running all updates from adept. but when I select fetch all updates it wont select any packages to actually update.
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> sagematt: now downloading 5,000,000,000 files
[04:38] <_john> intelikey: do you mean some other John ? i did not ask about sound
[04:39] <intelikey> yeah __john
[04:39] <_john> ah
[04:39] <intelikey> i think he left
[04:39] <sagematt> hitmanWilly: Well, yeah, lots of broken dependencies, but I always download the LiveDVD so it'll only download 6MB on packages (lol)
[04:39] <_john> well what about isntalling updates before doing the full upgrade? is it nescesary or can it be skipped?
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> never mind, dpkg, not apt :)
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> apt-get install *, that would be fun
[04:40] <sagematt> Heh
[04:40] <familia> hey
[04:40] <intelikey> sagematt why was   dpkg -i file    silly ?
[04:40] <familia> i instaled firefox just like you said
[04:40] <familia> it worked
[04:41] <familia> but where does it instaled?
[04:41] <sagematt> intelikey: it tried to install everything in alphabetical order, without checking dependencies first.
[04:41] <familia> where i can access it?
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> familia: kmenu > internet
[04:41] <sagematt> intelikey: I had like, 300MB on packages.
[04:41] <familia> is not there
[04:41] <intelikey> familia  look in the   kmenu > network
[04:41] <n4zgul> someone can help me? what can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> familia: or "firefox" from terminal
[04:42] <intelikey> sagematt and you follow the -i   with  dpkg --configure -a ?
[04:42] <familia> root@familia-desktop:~# firefox
[04:42] <familia> (firefox-bin:17427): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:42] <familia> root@familia-desktop:~#
[04:42] <intelikey> sagematt and maybe a   apt-get install -f    for some missing deps.
[04:42] <sagematt> intelikey: I ended up with broken dependencies anyways. apt-get -f install is taking care of that.
[04:43] <sagematt> familia: alt+f2 then firefox and hit intro
[04:43] <intelikey> sagematt and yes it is the "hard" way to install.  but can be used.
[04:43] <sagematt> familia: or maybe mozilla-firefox. I don't remember.
[04:43] <sagematt> intelikey: yup. thanks anyways.
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> its just firefox
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> tho that may be alink to mozilla-firefox
[04:44] <intelikey> hitmanWilly you sure ?    version didn't change from 6.6 ?
[04:44] <_john> ok so I found /etc/debian_version but where do I check the kubuntu version id
[04:45] <intelikey> _john  lsb-release -a
[04:45] <_john> well its kde 3.5.3
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: just tested it out
[04:45] <intelikey> hitmanWilly you have 6.6 ?
[04:45] <familia> COOL IT WORKED JUST FINE?
[04:45] <familia> FINE!!!**
[04:45] <Jucato> !caps
[04:45] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> errr, misunderstood, but yeah, used to work on that too
[04:45] <familia> hahahah
[04:45] <familia> sorry
[04:46] <intelikey> hitmanWilly ah  ok.
[04:46] <_john> ok its 6.06 dapper
[04:46] <familia> i've been trying for weeks to install the damn thing
[04:46] <_john> do I have to do updates before upgrade all? or can I jsut do upgrade all?
[04:46] <eean> I have some messed up iptables... how to rever them to the default?
[04:46] <intelikey> familia and it took two minutes with the right command....
[04:46] <familia> yeah
[04:46] <sagematt> hey guys, so I install ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop, now how do I switch desktops?
[04:46] <familia> impresive
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> sagematt: session select from kdm or gdm
[04:47] <intelikey> sagematt at the login screen
[04:47] <familia> its has been a real pain for me to found useful instructions on the net
[04:47] <sagematt> intelikey: good, thanks
[04:47] <kristjan_> !comiz
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about comiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <sagematt> hitmanWilly: alright, thanks
[04:47] <intelikey> sagematt there is an option in the menu on some DE's
[04:47] <kristjan_> !compiz
[04:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:47] <familia> but where is the "firefox.exe" or whatever located?
[04:47] <familia> to make it appear on the menu and the desktop
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> familia: /usr/local/bin iirc
[04:48] <intelikey> sagematt blackbox for one lets you switch without logging out.
[04:48] <agn0stic> familia: which firefox in a terminal will tell you
[04:48] <familia> thanks
[04:48] <familia> what is the command?
[04:48] <sagematt> intelikey: yes but that's because blackbox is just plain awesome.
[04:48] <agn0stic> familia: which firefox
[04:48] <_john> !upgrade
[04:48] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:49] <agn0stic> familia: literally, type "which firefox" into a terminal
[04:49] <intelikey> sagematt it's only one example.   twm also and fluxbox    i think xfce4  but not sure on it.
[04:49] <familia> kk
[04:49] <familia> thanks
[04:49] <agn0stic> familia: on my machine, firefox is in /usr/bin
[04:50] <sagematt> intelikey: alright, kdm or gdm?
[04:50] <intelikey> hitmanWilly hmmm what flavour ?   i've never noticed any such issue
[04:50] <intelikey> sagematt for ?
[04:50] <intelikey> but short answer   gdm
[04:50] <sagematt> intelikey: well, I just installed ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop, I want to know which is best
[04:50] <intelikey> kdm writes in /root/  by default.
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: just whatever it is in the repos, don't rightly remember the version #
[04:50] <intelikey> sagematt use   gdm
[04:51] <sagematt> intelikey: alright will do
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: might have been in my graphics settings tho
[04:51] <intelikey> hitmanWilly maybe...
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> don't know, just firefox would get MASSIVE dialog box flicker under it
[04:51] <n4zgul> someone can help me? what can i do for konqueror dont  get the website icon as window icon?
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> other than that, i loved it...
[04:52] <intelikey> ok that's why i never saw it.   i don't like ff and thus avoid it.
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> :)
 ok that's why i never saw it.   i don't like ff and thus avoid it. <-- Infidel!
[04:53] <sagematt> (j/k)
[04:53] <intelikey> hitmanWilly any clues on the konq question by n4zgul ?
[04:54] <familia> hmmmm in my pc its on the same directory
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> not really, not much of a konq fan/experience
[04:54] <familia> but
[04:54] <familia> its not an "executable"
[04:54] <n4zgul> lol, think that i will continue using firefox then
[04:54] <familia> when i double click on it it just ask what program should i use to open it
[04:54] <Mr_Sonoma> anyone have any problems with installing mjpegtools? when i try to run dvd-slideshow it says i need mjpegtools
[04:54] <intelikey> familia ?    firefox   in ~/  ?
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> familia: when it asks for the path to the cmd, just type in firefox, that'll work
[04:55] <Mr_Sonoma> but when i try to install the tools it says that its a broken package?? any ideas on a work around? or another prog?
[04:55] <agn0stic> hitmanWilly: the full path shouldn't be giving familia any issues either
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> familia: its set up in the $PATH variable, so you don't need to type the whole thing out
[04:56] <intelikey> n4zgul i like konqueror but i'm not an icon/fan/user   and the whole pointy clicky thingy, is kinda,,, not used much here.
[04:56] <n4zgul> lol
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> ok, fair, but i just said "try" :)
[04:59] <n4zgul> :p
[05:00] <n4zgul> lol
[05:00] <esunder> anyone know why kde windows are opening UNDER other windows
[05:00] <familia> now i made it
[05:00] <Kite_DH> lol
[05:00] <familia> but the file was located in usr/lib/firefox
[05:01] <intelikey> esunder set to open in the background ?
[05:01] <esunder> where?
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> familia: the executable binary shouldn't be there, that's where lib files are usually kept
[05:01] <intelikey> in konqueror's settings
[05:01] <n4zgul> intelikey: ty for the help man
[05:02] <esunder> its not just konquerer...
[05:02] <n4zgul> im going, see you all budies
[05:02] <intelikey> hitmanWilly actually hitmanWilly you better go look.  lots of things are hiding their executables there.
[05:02] <agn0stic> hitmanWilly: it is, check it. I don't know why the bin is there too....
[05:02] <agn0stic> kinda silly
[05:02] <intelikey> n4zgul gooday
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> that's weird...and stupid...
[05:02] <familia> strange
[05:02] <intelikey> well i agree  but it's still true
[05:03] <agn0stic> yes
[05:03] <n4zgul> good night intelikey(here in brazil is midnight)
[05:03] <familia> but again thanks for helping
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> there's a more or less standard dir structure for a reason...
[05:03] <agn0stic> unfortunately it's not very well followed
[05:04] <intelikey> familia but there should be a symlink in /usr/bin/  or /usr/local/bin  that points to the executable     symlink or shell wrapper
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> no kidding
[05:04] <familia> type:     shell script
[05:04] <intelikey> yeah
[05:04] <familia> i copied it to the desktop
[05:04] <familia> and it worked just fine
[05:05] <intelikey> there ya go
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> familia: that works :)
[05:05] <familia> ;)
[05:05] <agn0stic> familia: shell scripts are generally "executables", all files in linux have the capability to be executables, if that clears things up at all.
[05:05] <familia> wow
[05:06] <familia> didn't know that
[05:06] <intelikey> or to task bar   or where ever.
[05:06] <david2> woohoo solved samba problem
[05:06] <familia> hey, anyone here knows how to work with fortran IV
[05:06] <familia> o where i can get it
[05:07] <intelikey> g77-2.95 - The GNU Fortran 77 compiler
[05:07] <intelikey> gfortran - The GNU Fortran 95 compiler
[05:07] <intelikey> gfortran-4.0 - The GNU Fortran 95 compiler
[05:07] <intelikey> repos man repos
[05:07] <david2> the internet super daemon was using port 139 so samba couldn't
[05:07] <intelikey> use the package manager luke
[05:08] <james> is anyone good with ssh?
[05:08] <intelikey> why does ^l clear my consoles  ?
[05:09] <intelikey> james ! i  but ask anyway.
[05:09] <familia> but its same that fortran IV
[05:09] <familia> because my father used to program in fortran IV and he asked if i could get it
[05:09] <agn0stic> familia: http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/ is a pretty thorough explanation of linux basics, if you want to take the time to go through it
[05:09] <james> i have a silly university firewall
[05:09] <intelikey> familia i don't know.   i'm not a code monkey.  :)
[05:09] <familia> but something as close to the original
[05:09] <james> and I want to go through it!
[05:09] <familia> haahaha lol
[05:10] <james> there is a computer called kenny
[05:10] <james> but to get to kenny
[05:10] <james> I have to ssh into zeus.uwe.ac.uk
[05:10] <james> then while on zeus
[05:10] <james> I have to ssh into a computer called milly
[05:10] <intelikey> james ssh proxie tunneling    out of my league.    maybe Jucato knows  :)
[05:10] <james> from milly i can ssh into kenny where my stuff lies!
[05:10] <james> cool thanks
[05:11] <agn0stic> james: just using ssh again from the terminal on zeus doesn't work?
[05:11] <james> i'm not sure
[05:11] <james> i did something from mine like
[05:12] <james> ssh -l user -L 7000:zeus.uwe.ac.uk:22 zeus.uwe.ac.uk
[05:12] <james> thats opens a tunnel so now if i connect from my computer
[05:13] <james> ssh -p 7000 localhost, i can log on to zeus
[05:13] <james> but i need to make a tunnel that goes from my computer through zeus, then through
[05:13] <james> milly and then on to kenny!
[05:13] <james> lol
[05:13] <james> i think its not too simple!
[05:14] <agn0stic> james: tunnelings something im not too familiar with. you could in theory, ssh user@zeus to get a terminal on it, and then do the same to milly, kenny, whatever. Probably not the best solution though
[05:14] <james> yeh i can do that, which is grate
[05:14] <james> gr8
[05:14] <sagematt> thanks for your help, you are all a bunch of fine chaps
[05:14] <sagematt> later
[05:14] <james> but just wanted to try and open a tcp tunnel
[05:14] <james> direct to the end
[05:15] <james> cool
[05:15] <james> thanks man1
[05:16] <james> #register
[05:17] <james> how do i register? silly question!
[05:17] <intelikey> !register
[05:17] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:17] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help register
[05:19] <earth_wormjim> SSH tunneling anyone?
[05:19] <esunder> anyone know why all of my windows are opening UNDER other windows
[05:21] <strabes> what's a good kde chess game?
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> kchess? :)
[05:21] <anthonyq123> anyone has full version lg3d?
[05:21] <intelikey> esunder i'm sure it's in the setting someplace.    alt+f2 type: kcontrol
[05:21] <intelikey> esunder i don't know exactly where tho
[05:22] <intelikey> strabes xboard
[05:22] <esunder> i know, i looked but it didnt seem to work
[05:23] <esunder> found it, it was there intelikey, but it was also in beryl...
[05:23] <intelikey> esunder works on 6.6   that's all i know.
[05:23] <esunder> good to go now, thanks for your help
[05:23] <intelikey> esunder ah beryl    yeah there is a channel for that too
[05:24] <esunder> hehe, i thought it was a kde thing, all apps were doing it
[05:25] <hayden> When I first ran kde it had a first time wizard. How do I run this again?
[05:25] <intelikey> seems like 80% or the questions are either howto *beryl or    the answer is beryl caused it.
[05:26] <intelikey> hey genii   how is ya ?
[05:26] <genii> intelikey Lately, tired LOL and only the laptop to use, my tower fried
[05:27] <intelikey> you loaded beryl on it didn't you ?
[05:27] <intelikey> :)
[05:27] <intelikey> sorry to hear that it crapped out on ya tho
[05:27] <genii> intelikey Nah, my agp port broke off from metal fatigue
[05:28] <intelikey> the metal got tired....
[05:28] <stdin> should have given it coffee
[05:28] <genii> yeah from bending a little evry time I put/pulled ram in there. So finally... wham
[05:29] <genii> stdin Hi :) Yeah might have been a more spectacular fire
[05:30] <stdin> my tower has a old intel gpu so that wont break when I install more ram
[05:30] <os2mac> anyone try to run a pcmcia smart card reader on Kubuntu yet?
[05:30] <genii> At least I got a nice contract at the end I'll get my every-five-year new box
[05:31] <stdin> got a new laptop tho :)
[05:31] <intelikey> wish i had a box less than 5yo
[05:31] <stdin> it's the newest hardware I own
[05:31] <intelikey> os2mac i havent  but describe your issue anyway    maybe someone will have a clue by four to whack you with   :)
[05:32] <genii> os2mac I have a usb one that works. No pcmcia tho
[05:32] <genii> stdin I'm tempted to mail you a motherboard
[05:33] <hayden> When I first ran kde it had a first time wizard. How do I run this again?
[05:34] <intelikey> kde-first-time  ?      not sure of the name...
[05:34] <os2mac> just trying to get it working
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> kde-setup maybe?
[05:34] <stdin> genii: I'm thinking I need to do a "real" upgrade soon, most of the components are over 5 years old
[05:34] <intelikey> yeah maybe   kde-setup
[05:34] <Jucato> hayden: kpersonalizer
[05:35] <hayden> Jucato: thanks
[05:35] <sl00> The resolution 1400x1050 does not show under System Settings -> Mointor & Display. How do I fix it so I can change to that resolution?
[05:35] <intelikey> Jucato does that do all the setup or just the personal info ?
[05:35] <Jucato> intelikey: just the look and feel setup
[05:35] <genii> stdin If you need 4 sticks of 133 ECC ram (512 each)lemme know. Thats what I was plugging in when it fried
[05:35] <beata> I'm having some icon size trouble with Feisty. Heh, also with a 1400x1050 display.
[05:36] <intelikey> Jucato oh   it doesn't do the personal info...    odd the name is deceptive
[05:36] <genii> I think kde-setup
[05:36] <beata> sl00: laptop / LCD panel?
[05:36] <Jucato> intelikey: not really. it personalizes your desktop
[05:36] <sl00> beata: Laptop.
[05:37] <stdin> genii: my tower mobo has 2 slots, it currently has 1x1GB and 1x512MB
[05:37] <intelikey> i guess kuser is what i'm thinking of huh ?
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> sl00: you need to edit xorg.conf and add the res in
[05:37] <beata> Right. What hitman said.
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> !xorg | sl00
[05:37] <ubotu> sl00: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:37] <Jucato> intelikey: yeah, maybe. user management
[05:37] <sl00> Ok. THanks
[05:37] <sl00> I thought there were an easier way :/
[05:37] <stdin> sl00: or rerun the setup "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[05:38] <genii> stdin It used to be ECC ram was good LOL
[05:38] <dope> how do I give a directory write access
[05:38] <intelikey> stdin there you go p'ing high again
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> dope: chmod
[05:38] <dope> i seem to be messing up the syntax
[05:38] <stdin> intelikey: I always p high :)
[05:39] <beata> Anyway, I would like to resize the 'system tray' icons but there doesn't seem to be a setting for it.. except for two apps.
[05:39] <stdin> dope: chmod +w /path/to/dir
[05:39] <genii> dope It depends if this is a dir you mounted or just a regular dir. If mounted, then add ser"as a mount option.Otherwise use the chmod as suggested
[05:39] <dope> regular dir
[05:39] <intelikey> dope  sudo chmod 755 /dirname/      or 777 if you want world read/write access
[05:39] <dope> drwxr-xr-x
[05:39] <genii> damn my quote plus u seems to produce a foreign char
[05:39] <dope> does it have write access?
[05:39] <intelikey> yes for owner
[05:40] <intelikey> it's 755
[05:40] <dope> because when i do mkdir without sudo it says permission denied
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> dope: that means root owns the dir
[05:40] <intelikey> ok you want world access   or you want to own it
[05:40] <beata> And also I was wanting to enable speedstep on this machine. It's a mobile P3 laptop.
[05:40] <intelikey> dope it's not a system dir is it ?
[05:40] <dope> it's a dir that i'm trying to access via ftp and I can't do anything to the directory through ftp
[05:40] <dope> it's /var/www
[05:41] <genii> Ah, ftp/www are different
[05:41] <intelikey> i don't think you want to change that.
[05:41] <dope> i can look at the files when I ftp in but that's it
[05:41] <intelikey> you want to setup the ftp server to allow access
[05:41] <dope> which is useless
[05:41] <dope> oh
[05:41] <stdin> talk to the person/support team that runs the server
[05:42] <dope> it's me :|
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> you could add your user to the www group, that might work
[05:42] <stdin> can't you shh in ?
[05:42] <genii> you should put a ftp dir somewhere not in /var/www   then set the ftp root in the conf file
[05:42] <stdin> s/shh/ssh/
[05:42] <yamathan> Er, how are multi-core processors handled in the latest version of Ubuntu?
[05:43] <intelikey> stdin maybe i'm wrong but i think he's local.
[05:43] <stdin> yamathan: automatically
[05:43] <yamathan> In the old days there was a linux-kernel image for SMP, but now all I'm seeing is load-bearing stuff.
[05:43] <yamathan> Oh?
[05:43] <yamathan> Well, that's quite a feat!
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> yamathan: its compiled straight in
[05:43] <stdin> yamathan: the -generic kernel has SMP built in
[05:43] <genii> dope adding the user ftp to the www group is not a bad workaround actually
[05:43] <yamathan> Well, where the Hell have I been, then?  XD;;;
[05:44] <yamathan> Here I thought it was just really fast for one core!
[05:44] <intelikey> hitmanWilly is it or is it in the initramfs ?
[05:44] <yamathan> Is there any particular load-bearing daemon that would help improve efficiency?
[05:44] <stdin> intelikey: no, built in to the kernel
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: last time i ran make menuconfig on the kernel it was set as built in
[05:44] <dope> awesome, works now
[05:44] <intelikey> stdin hmmm    k
[05:45] <intelikey> that's one reason for the bloat
[05:45] <yamathan> Oh, uh, this may be the wrong channel to ask in, but I'm trying to survey my wireless security.
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: just recompile if it bothers you :)
[05:45] <intelikey> doesn't apply to me.
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> ahhh, k
[05:45] <yamathan> I hear quite a bit about airsnort and aircrack, has anyone had luck getting it to work with an Intel 3945 chipset?
[05:45] <stdin> intelikey: basically the kernel looks to see howmany cpu's/core's you have and sets itself up accordingly
[05:46] <intelikey> stdin yeah it looks like a job for the initramfs though.
[05:46] <yamathan> Or should I just try backtrack or another security-focused distro?
[05:46] <genii> yamathan when using cli top you can hit 1 to show load for cpu0 cpu1    etc
[05:47] <yamathan> Oh?
[05:48] <niles> hi
[05:48] <yamathan> Thanks, genii.
[05:48] <niles> acroread is not in apt-cache search
[05:48] <genii> yamathan:  np
[05:48] <yamathan> I also notice that apparently the aircrack and airsnort channels are more or less dead.
[05:48] <dealer_> I just downloaded a *.bz2 file, and 'man bz2' dont work. anyone got any good links for me ? so i can read up on bz2
[05:48] <genii> I think there has been little development on them for a while now unfortunately
[05:49] <Jucato> dealer_: a *.bz2 is a bzip2 archive
[05:49] <intelikey> dealer_ you can always look on   tldp.org
[05:49] <Chicory> <3
[05:49] <Chicory> Nevermind.
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> dealer_: use gzip
[05:49] <stdin> niles: no, it's not in the repositories anymore, because it would be illegal for it to be. you'll have to download/install it manually (or just use kpfd)
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> that will handle bz2 archives
[05:49] <niles> kpdf sucks becuase you cant copy/paste text
[05:49] <Jucato> niles: er.. you can
[05:49] <Coldwar55> Is there a way to change fire fox embedded video players if I have multiple ones?
[05:49] <stdin> dealer_: man bunzip2
[05:50] <niles> lets see
[05:50] <genii> yamathan The last entries on the airsnort homepage for instance are from Dec 2004
[05:50] <esunder> what is the <Super> key?
[05:50] <Jucato> niles: you need to choose the Selection tool in the toolbar (beside the scroll and zoom icon)
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> esunder: aka windows key
[05:50] <Jucato> esunder: usually the Win key
[05:50] <stdin> esunder: the win key
[05:50] <Chicory> Hmm ...
[05:50] <esunder> how can i test if its workin?
[05:51] <Chicory> Thanks, genii.
[05:51] <intelikey> esunder in a console   showkeys
[05:51] <genii> Chicory You may want to try some other tool like nmap
[05:51] <niles> thanx fellaz
[05:52] <intelikey> nmapfe is handy
[05:52] <stdin> esunder: has to be run in a REAL console, ie: press Ctrl-Alt-F1 (or F2-6)
[05:53] <genii> <-- coffee break, back in 5 or so
[05:55] <kane_> what would yall suggest for creating a streaming music server?
[05:55] <kane_> ampache?
[05:56] <genii> ices or ices2
[05:56] <genii> ices does mp3 natively, ices2 is native ogg
[05:57] <kane_> Do'h
[05:57] <kane_> not in apt.
[05:57] <kane_> such is life.
[05:57] <genii> look for icecast
[05:58] <kane_> ahahaaaaa it is.
[05:59] <kane_> its insane how much better and easier installing software is under most linux systems than it is on linux
[05:59] <doctorow> Hey there -- I just installed Kubuntu on a clean Feisty system, using Synaptic. When I reboot, I see the Kubuntu splash-screen. However, it boots into Gnome as usual. When I try "sudo kdm" from a Terminal, I get a black screen, but nothing else
[05:59] <Chicory> Hmm ...
[05:59] <Chicory> Oh well, it's time for bed over here.
[05:59] <stdin> doctorow: you have to choose kde from the menu
[05:59] <stdin> doctorow: the one that looks like an retern key (IIRC)
[05:59] <Chicory> I mean, yes, it's for security, but it would have been fun to see just how flimsy my system is.
[06:00] <doctorow> stdin: you mean the menu on the login screen?
[06:00] <stdin> doctorow: the menu ON the login screen
[06:00] <genii> "sessions
[06:01] <doctorow> stdin Thanks, I'll try that!
[06:01] <stdin> ^ word i was looking for
[06:01] <genii> :)
[06:01] <vbgunz> how do I get the UUID of a drive for fstab? CanI?
[06:01] <stdin> !UUID
[06:01] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:01] <stdin> vbgunz: sudo blkid
[06:01] <genii> stdin Something weird with my quote key.
[06:02] <leo> hi everybody
[06:02] <leo> got a question about pen drives...
[06:02] <vbgunz> stdin: thank you very much!
[06:03] <genii> testing quotes:  quote a "b quote b "c "d  "f "g "h  "j "k "l "m "n  "p "q "r "s "t  "v "w "x  "z
[06:03] <leo> does anyone know kingston mini migo pen drive??
[06:05] <leo> anybody?
[06:05] <stdin> genii: is your meta key stuck or something?
[06:05] <genii> nvm I have wrong default keyboard installed for this laptop
[06:05] <genii> stdin I just caught what it is actually LOL
[06:07] <genii> leo I'm not familiar with that manufacturer, but most pen drives or usb drives will get recognised as SCSI devices eg: /dev/sda /dev/sdb     and so on
[06:10] <mofo-x> Hey guys.
[06:10] <Berto> Hi - when i click on Administrator Mode in the System Services section, it doesn't pop up a password prompt!  how do i get it?
[06:10] <Carnage\> Can I add samba users when they don't have a corresponding system account?
[06:10] <genii> Carnage Short answer is yes
[06:11] <robotgeek> Carnage\: i think there is a smbusers file or somthing
[06:11] <Carnage\> genii: And how do I do that?
[06:11] <Carnage\> I tried "smbpasswd user" as root but that doesn't work
[06:11] <mofo-x> Anyone know of a reason why I can't get past detecting hardware, it takes like 5 minutes to get to 6% and then hangs on loading module trm290 for IDE chipset support.
[06:11] <genii> Carnage\:  Try "man smbpasswd
[06:11] <Carnage\> genii: Read that already
[06:12] <Carnage\> It just states that smbpasswd -a per default requests the user to be a system user
[06:12] <Berto> is there a good doc on getting USB drives to automount in kubuntu?   mine don't work
[06:12] <genii> It should be something like smbpasswd -a user
[06:12] <genii> (add user)
[06:12] <genii> then -e
[06:12] <Carnage\> Note that the default
[06:12] <Carnage\>           passdb backends require the user to already exist in the system password file (usually /etc/passwd), else the request to add the user will fail.
[06:12] <genii> for enable
[06:13] <genii> I'm pretty sure that id if your smb.conf is setup that all samba users must map to a unix system user
[06:13] <Carnage\> genii: -e gives me "Can't find the user"
[06:13] <Carnage\> Hmm, I'll take a look at the file
[06:14] <genii> man smb.conf  is also enlightening
[06:14] <genii> if you change it then do testparm to check syntax
[06:15] <Carnage\> genii: Starnge, it tells me there:
[06:15] <Carnage\> # "security = user" is always a good idea. This will require a Unix account in this server for every user accessing the server. See /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/Samba3-HOWTO/ServerType.html in the samba-doc package for details.
[06:15] <Carnage\> ;   security = user
[06:15] <Carnage\> But it is commented out...
[06:15] <genii> I usually have security=share which is more how windoze is setup natively
[06:16] <stdin> yeah, I have it set to share too
[06:16] <Carnage\> Okay, I'll try that
[06:16] <stdin> you can still restrict certain shares too
[06:17] <genii> The manpage for smb.conf is extremely long and detailed.Most anything you really want to set can be found there
[06:17] <Carnage\> Okay, then thanks for your help so far :)
[06:17] <genii> stdin I'm some kind of Luddite LOL
[06:17] <stdin> swat = samba web administration tool
[06:18] <Berto> is there a good doc on getting USB drives to automount in kubuntu?
[06:18] <robotgeek> Berto: it should automount automagically
[06:18] <Berto> robotgeek, "should"
[06:19] <robotgeek> Berto: what does dmesg tell you, when you plug it in
[06:19] <Berto> robotgeek, i must be missing some necessary service
[06:19] <Berto> robotgeek, the device is /dev/sdc1 and works fine mounting manually.  I'm just sick of doing that for the past 10 years
[06:19] <robotgeek> Berto: i know, lemme see
[06:19] <stdin> automount needs HAL and DBUS afaik
[06:19] <genii> likely you have multiple usb mass-storage things and you need to specify some UUID or similar in the fstab for it to know which is which
[06:19] <Berto> [39198.160422]  sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdc\
[06:20] <Berto> robotgeek, sdc is being found -- i think KDE/linux are not running the right services (hal?  gnome-volume-manager?)  to automount it
[06:21] <robotgeek> Berto: definetly not gnome-volume-manager
[06:22] <genii> sounds like some usbfs issue
[06:22] <genii> Which dist you have?
[06:23] <robotgeek> Berto: i dunno why it doesn't work, hal.conf in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf might have answers
[06:23] <Berto> kubuntu 7.04
[06:23] <robotgeek> Berto: only if you are experienced, that is.
[06:24] <Berto> robotgeek, yeah well experienced enough to know how to manually mount and not care to spend 8 hours on this anymore
[06:24] <Berto> oh well thanks
[06:24] <robotgeek> Berto: sorry, happened to me once, but it fixed itself
[06:27] <robotgeek> Berto: this bug report is interesting, might help? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/102097
[06:28] <robotgeek> Berto: pmount is the next best thing, i guess
[06:28] <Berto> thanks robotgeek !
[06:29] <stdin> or pmount-hal
[06:31] <robotgeek> there apparently is also "usbmount" which might help, Berto. However, you should file a bug. It is not acceptable not to have devices not automount :)
[06:34] <genii> There seems a few posts on this subject
[06:34] <genii> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2580033#post2580033     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=430842&page=2    for a couple
[06:38] <Rictoo> What's a really fun game I can play?
[06:38] <Rictoo> I'm bored :\
[06:38] <snarkhunter> sudoku
[06:38] <Rictoo> No, I don't want toplay SuperTux :D
[06:38] <Rictoo> or sudoku -.-
[06:38] <stdin> frozen-bubble ?
[06:39] <Rictoo> Not that either :(
[06:39] <snarkhunter> bejewelled
[06:39] <Rictoo> ....
[06:39] <snarkhunter> Typing of the Dead?
[06:39] <Rictoo> Something that's filesize is larger than 10mb
[06:39] <Rictoo> lol
[06:39] <stdin> stratagus
[06:39] <Rictoo> stdin What's that?
[06:39] <stdin> !info stratagus
[06:39] <Rictoo> !info stratagus
[06:39] <ubotu> stratagus: realtime strategy game for Unix and X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-9.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 563 kB, installed size 1328 kB
[06:40] <stdin> it's quite a good game too
[06:40] <Rictoo> hm
[06:40] <genii> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games
[06:40] <genii> frozen bubble is addictive
[06:40] <stdin> based on WarCraft II
[06:41] <snarkhunter> that what used to be called FreeCraft?
[06:41] <stdin> get the stratagus-gl package
[06:42] <stdin> !info freeciv
[06:42] <ubotu> Package freeciv does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:42] <snarkhunter> !freeciv-client-gtk
[06:42] <snarkhunter> !info freeciv-client-gtk
[06:42] <stdin> eww, gtk
[06:42] <ubotu> freeciv-client-gtk: Civilization turn based strategy game (GTK+ client). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-3 (feisty), package size 381 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[06:43] <Rictoo> Hmm, could I play a flight simulator with only a keyboar?
[06:43] <Rictoo> +d
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> yes
[06:43] <Rictoo> Do you think a Radeon 9200 128mb is good enough for it?
[06:43] <stdin> snarkhunter: and, yeah. it was freecraft (according to wikipedia)
[06:43] <snarkhunter> I had many hours of joy with a keyboard and decent 1
[06:43] <os2mac> !smartcard
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smartcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <Rictoo> Do you think a Radeon 9200 128mb is good enough for it?
[06:44] <snarkhunter> for what is essentially warcraft 2?
[06:46] <stdin> snarkhunter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warcraft_II:_Tides_of_Darkness
[06:49] <snarkhunter> point was that a radeon 9200 is 10x what you need for a game that came out in '95 :)
[06:52] <Ich> hi, is there a bot in here?
[06:53] <Ich> oh, nevermind
[06:53] <stdin> !bot
[06:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:00] <Ich> how do i set a static ip address on a LAN?
[07:00] <robotgeek> Ich: K-Menu -> System Settings
[07:00] <dr_willis> hmm.. use that network configuration tool.
[07:01] <robotgeek> Network Settings
[07:02] <genii> cli : edit /etc/network/interfaces    after studying man interfaces
[07:04] <Rictoo> This might be odd, but if I have 2 seperate gfx chips (one onboard, one a card), could I plug a monitor into both of them and have a two monitor display?
[07:05] <genii> Yes, so long as you have entries for each card in your xorg.conf file
[07:05] <Rictoo> REALLY!???
[07:05] <Rictoo> SPLAIN PLS
[07:05] <genii> yes
[07:05] <Rictoo> How would I do that? :O
[07:05] <Rictoo> How would i have 2 entries?
[07:05] <stdin> it would have to be 2 separate X displays tho
[07:06] <stdin> *I think
[07:06] <dr_willis> Its very doable. :) if you want to do some larning
[07:06] <Rictoo> i'm not good enough at linux :(
[07:06] <dr_willis> gentoo wiki pages have a large # of examples..
[07:06] <genii> Rictoo 1 minute I'll try to find you some example. You need to know what your cards are and what pci address they are on as well
[07:06] <dr_willis> what are your video cards however?
[07:06] <Rictoo> I might want to do some learning :\
[07:06] <Rictoo> genii, err
[07:06] <Rictoo> I have no idea
[07:06] <Rictoo> ...
[07:06] <kam> helloo......
[07:06] <Rictoo> Actually, lspci should do it, right?
[07:07] <genii> Rictoo:  If at commandline you type: lspci   it should say some stuff about what video and other cards you have actually
[07:07] <stdin> lspci|grep VGA
[07:08] <genii> Also the results of dmesg  are useful to know what exact PCI:XX:XX:XX to use
[07:08] <Rictoo> actually I think I disabled my onboard chip from the bios
[07:08] <Rictoo> I'll enable it after this flight simulater is done downloading XD
[07:09] <Rictoo> stdin, if I enable my onboard chip, and then I do lspci, will Linux see that chip alongside my main card?
[07:09] <genii> If onboard is set as default video you may need to plug a monitor into that one
[07:09] <genii> (until you get both entries in the xorg file)O
[07:09] <stdin> should do
[07:09] <Rictoo> genii, so i should plug a monitor into both chips?
[07:10] <genii> Rictoo If you have 2 monitors, not a bad idea. Then you will know which is being the default
[07:10] <Rictoo> ok
[07:10] <Rictoo> Actually I have one CRT, one LCD
[07:10] <Rictoo> XD
[07:10] <Rictoo> It will be interesting OO
[07:11] <genii> Rictoo Do you know exactly what type/make/model the 2 cards are?
[07:11] <Rictoo> genii, I'm not sure about the onboard one
[07:12] <genii> (this makes it easier to find some sample entry for the xorg.conf file)
[07:12] <Rictoo> hmm
[07:12] <Rictoo> well
[07:12] <Rictoo> erm
[07:13] <Rictoo> How would I find it out? :\
[07:13] <Rictoo> Oh, the internet L:D
[07:13] <Rictoo> brb
[07:13] <Rictoo> By the way, thanks for the help <3
[07:13] <genii> Have fun and good luck :)
[07:14] <Rictoo> Onboard chip: "S3 UniChrome Pro"
[07:16] <Rictoo> genii, any luck? :p
[07:17] <Ick> !version
[07:17] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[07:18] <genii> Rictoo lemme look that one up
[07:18] <Rictoo> thanks
[07:19] <stdin> !Xinerama
[07:19] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[07:19] <Rictoo> <3,3<3
[07:20] <Rictoo> Thanks stdin
[07:21] <genii> Rictoo: Looks like some VIA centric S3 card
[07:21] <stdin> that isn't a great howto
[07:21] <Rictoo> stdin, that howto doesn't cover 2 different chips :\
[07:22] <stdin> the link at the top of the page is what you want
[07:22] <semistud2354> can someone tell me a good image program...
[07:22] <semistud2354> i want to do that thing where it looks like a pencil drawing
[07:23] <Rictoo> stdin, the BinaryDriverHowTO?
[07:23] <stdin> no, http://www.paralipsis.org/2006/01/enabling-xinerama-in-ubuntu/
[07:24] <semistud2354> anyone know a good image program that allowes you to do a pencil drawing effect
[07:25] <genii> Rictoo From what I can tell, the vesa driver works for this card but only for 640x480 and if you want to have full range of resolutions for it, you need to get an OpenChrome  S3 driver installed.
[07:25] <Rictoo> THANKS STDIN <3
[07:25] <Rictoo> genii, ok, thanks :\
[07:26] <genii> Rictoo What dist you have ? eg: dapper edgy feisty
[07:26] <Rictoo> feisty
[07:26] <Rictoo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[07:27] <semistud2354> does anyone have any experience with image programs
[07:27] <genii> Rictoo Yup, thats the one you need
[07:29] <genii> You want to backup your xorg.conf file before you start messing with it (insurance)
[07:30] <stdin> why would the howto have "sudo echo "drm" >>/etc/modules" when that won't work?
[07:32] <genii> Yeah weird /etc/modules should be instead /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:32] <stdin> no, it should go in /etc/modules
[07:32] <stdin> but the >> /etc/modules won't work
[07:33] <stdin> needs 'echo whatever | sudo tee -a /destfile
[07:34] <genii> Ah right, sudo weirdnesses over pipes etc
[07:34] <Rictoo> will apt-get resume if I stop the download right now?
[07:35] <stdin> yeah
[07:35] <Rictoo> kewl
[07:35] <Rictoo> ctrl+c ? xD
[07:35] <genii> stdin /etc/modules is right tho? I figure you should put the video subsystem stuff as sub-entries in xorg for whatever reason
[07:35] <Rictoo> brb guys, gonna try to hax my video chips
[07:36] <stdin> genii: you do, but it needs to load the kernel module too
[07:36] <genii> ah, ok
[07:39] <richard> can some one help me my KTorrent is about as stable as soduim it crashes like every hour.
[07:39] <richard> I ran it in the terminal to see whats up but I cant understand the error message.
[07:39] <ses1959_> question on wine I have wine install and using the interface but how do i make the program install after adding to windows applications system settings
[07:40] <robotgeek> richard: what is the error message?
[07:40] <richard> robotgeek: Qt: Warning: QGArray::at: Absolute index 0 out of range
[07:41] <stdin> ses1959_: I don't understand your question
[07:41] <robotgeek> richard: i dunno what that means, sorry
[07:42] <richard> Thats ok, ill just install another bit torrent client, although this one looks good and downloads ok.
[07:42] <xlinux_> richard.. use bittornado
[07:42] <xlinux_> its really bada**
[07:42] <ses1959_> installed wine from ubuntu and under system setting clicked on wine and have windows  applications and picked the application i wanted
[07:42] <richard> Ok ill try that thanks.
[07:42] <xlinux_> yup yup
[07:42] <ses1959_> but now need to install the program to work
[07:43] <richard> If I get a ATi card would it be better than my 64 mb intergrated intel drivers ?
[07:43] <richard> I dont have much ram and Im guess its using my ram as video memery.
[07:44] <Rictoo> ok
[07:44] <stdin> ses1959_: ahh, open konsole and cd to the place you have the .exe, then type "wine myapp.exe", or just use Wine File (in Utilities) and double click it
[07:45] <Rictoo> genii, stdin: I got the onboard chip enabled, and I plugged a monitor into it
[07:45] <Rictoo> but when I do lspci, the chip isn
[07:45] <Rictoo> 't there
[07:45] <stingo> hi
[07:46] <stdin> mantice: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent/+bug/109184
[07:46] <genii> Rictoo When you do just "lspci"  is there any line indicationg a VIA video device?
[07:47] <Rictoo> erm, genii, how do I scroll up in shell? (I'm not in X)
[07:47] <genii> If onboard likely the agp then not pci
[07:47] <genii> Rictoo shift-pgup
[07:47] <Rictoo> genii, nothing :S
[07:48] <ses1959_> thank you
[07:48] <genii> Rictoo OK, then instead of a line like PCI:xx:xx:xx in xorg.conf  it should be like agp:xx:xx:xx  where the x is likely all zeros
[07:48] <trippppy> im trying to automate a bunch of commands but i don't know where to start. even on google.
[07:49] <Rictoo> genii, but the monitor plugged into the chip isn't even working
[07:49] <Rictoo> it's not on :S
[07:49] <Rictoo> (aka no signal)
[07:49] <Rictoo> I'll check xorg.conf though
[07:49] <Rictoo> nope, it didn't identify the card at all (nor the monitor, of course)
[07:50] <genii> Rictoo Well, it will not work automatically. You bneed 2 entries in xorg.conf. One is for the card you were using already, then the other is for the S3
[07:50] <stdin> trippppy: making a script is easy, you just put all the commands in a file, all on new lines and then you can run it
[07:50] <Rictoo> genii, BUT IT ISN"T EVEN IN LSPCI! :||
[07:50] <Rictoo> It doesn't even see the chip AT ALL
[07:50] <genii> Rictoo lspci shows PCI devices
[07:50] <Rictoo> btw, how would I do lspci line by line?
[07:50] <Rictoo> Because I can't scroll up ^^'
[07:51] <genii> Rictoo an AGP device will not show any result in the lspci command
[07:51] <trippppy> stdin, if i have any problems can i ask for more help?
[07:51] <stdin> trippppy: yeah :)
[07:51] <Rictoo> lspci | grep video
[07:51] <Rictoo> returns nothing
[07:51] <mantice> stdin: look at now
[07:51] <Rictoo> genii, oh
[07:51] <Rictoo> but my radeon card is agp
[07:51] <genii> Rictoo Anyhow, you can do something like:   lspci|more    to scroll the results.
[07:51] <Rictoo> and it's there
[07:52] <Rictoo> genii, ok, it's not there
[07:52] <Rictoo> but how come my radeon AGP card shows up in lspci
[07:52] <Rictoo> ?
[07:53] <genii> Rictoo Some AGP devices show in there if they are mapped thru the pci controller
[07:53] <semistud2354_> does anyone know any image editors that have the sketch function/ability
[07:53] <Rictoo> ok
[07:53] <Rictoo> so genii, what's the next step then? lol
[07:53] <stdin> semistud2354_: maybe gimp?
[07:54] <genii> Rictoo Did you backup your original xorg?
[07:54] <semistud2354_> anything smaller??
[07:54] <Rictoo> genii, yes
[07:54] <genii> 1 minute my roomie gave me a plate of food
[07:54] <Rictoo> Is it OK if Linux didn't automatically make a new exntry for the chip in xorg.conf ?
[07:54] <mantice> stdin: thanks for that I never saw that on google :/
[07:55] <stdin> np
[07:55] <genii> Rictoo Yes, thats fine that it did not make an entry
[07:55] <Rictoo> ok
[07:55] <Rictoo> so now I should add the device?
[07:55] <Rictoo> to xorg?
[07:55] <mantice> Now I just need some one to tell me what is better intel inergrated graphics or ATi 9600 card
[07:55] <Rictoo> But how do I know what the BusID is? :)
[07:55] <genii> Rictoo Yes but a suitable sample should be found first for multiple cards in it
[07:55] <Rictoo> mantice, the radeon by FAR
[07:56] <Rictoo> genii, 'suitable sample'?
[07:56] <genii> Rictoo the busid is what I have been saying, like PCI:xx:xx:xx or AGP:xx:xx:xx
[07:56] <stdin> maybe "lshal | grep agp! ?
[07:56] <Rictoo> lemme try =p
[07:56] <stdin> replace !' with ' " '
[07:56] <mantice> Rictoo: Thats what Id say in windoez
[07:56] <genii> Rictoo OK I'll eat some food and be around for help ")
[07:56] <Rictoo> it got 'agpgart-via'
[07:57] <Rictoo> stdin, it got 'agpgart-via'
[07:57] <Rictoo> is that it?
[07:57] <mantice> but I herd the intel drivers are crazy good since they are opensource.
[07:57] <stdin> no
[07:57] <Rictoo> :S
[07:57] <Rictoo> So obviously the entire OS doesn't even see the onboard chip
[07:57] <Rictoo> mantice, the 'radeon' driver is opensource
[07:58] <mantice> oh.
[07:58] <Rictoo> stdin, so now what? :\
[07:59] <Rictoo> brb
[08:00] <stdin> Rictoo: maybe if you install lshw (sudo apt-get install lshw) and look in there
[08:01] <Rictoo> stdin:
[08:01] <Rictoo> rictoo@rictoo-desktop:~$ lshal | grep via info.linux.driver = 'via-rhine'  (string
[08:01] <pinguix> hola
[08:01] <pinguix> a todos
[08:01] <Rictoo> the info.* is the line after 'grep via'
[08:01] <Rictoo> that rhine thing, is that the unichrome chip?
[08:02] <pinguix> m
[08:03] <genii> Rictoo No, rhine is a network card controller chip
[08:04] <Rictoo> ok, stdin, I used lshw and it didn't see the chip either
[08:04] <Rictoo> So what now.........?
[08:04] <Rictoo> This mobo doesn't like 2 gfx chips at the same time, or what?
[08:04] <stdin> hmm, are you sure the chip is enabled ?
[08:05] <Rictoo> Lemme check again iI
[08:05] <genii> stdin Good Q, maybe the bios change didn't take
[08:06] <trippppy> stdin, are you in here much?
[08:07] <stdin> umm, you could say that
[08:07] <stdin> quite often
[08:07] <genii> From what I find, the onboard UniChrome cards should be PCI:1:0:0 but perhaqps in bios needs AGP/PCI priority looked at
[08:07] <trippppy> ok. i think i need to run some of the commands after sudo -s
[08:09] <stdin> trippppy: just run each command with sudo, the user will only be asked for a password once
[08:09] <stdin> trippppy: or just run the script with sudo
[08:10] <trippppy> ok thankx
[08:11] <trippppy> i have to reboot. to try again
[08:11] <Rictoo> ok, studin
[08:12] <Rictoo> stdin*
[08:12] <Rictoo> it is enabled
[08:12] <stdin> check lspci/lshw again
[08:12] <Rictoo> I tried not plugging in a monitor into the card, and one into the chip
[08:12] <Rictoo> but nothing came up on the monitor of the chip
[08:12] <Rictoo> so I unplugged th card, and then it worke3d
[08:12] <Rictoo> it seems with this mobo if it sees a gfx card in, it ignores the chip entirely
[08:13] <Rictoo> stdin, I meant it was already enabled ;)
[08:14] <stdin> the bios may give priority to the card then
[08:14] <Rictoo> yeah
[08:14] <Rictoo> so now what? :(
[08:14] <genii> Bah I ghosted but back now
[08:14] <stdin> it's a bios issue. nothing to do with linux
[08:14] <Rictoo> I know
[08:14] <Rictoo> so what do I do now? oO
[08:15] <stdin> not much you can do, unless there is a newer version of your bios out, and you can flash it
[08:15] <Rictoo> I'm never gonna flash my bios ;)
[08:15] <Rictoo> I'm too afraid =p
[08:15] <genii> Well, if you have nothing against swapping your cards around, you could try setting up with 1, save the xorg, pull it set up with the second, save the xorg. Then you can pull the Device parts and so on from one and add it to thye other
[08:16] <Rictoo> genii, we already found out that the bios ignores the chip if a card is already in
[08:16] <Rictoo> :9
[08:16] <Rictoo> :(*
[08:16] <genii> There may be some part in the bios too where it has somethinglike use AGP or PCI video
[08:16] <Rictoo> Nope =p
[08:17] <genii> No "Video card Priority"type section in bios? Even my old P3 had that
[08:18] <Rictoo> nope
[08:18] <genii> Weird
[08:19] <genii> Rictoo Right now you are using the onboard?
[08:19] <Rictoo> Oh well, I'm off to to sleep guys, night
[08:19] <genii> Rictoo OK, sleep well then
[08:20] <codonil> Hi, I'm installing windows using qemu, now windows detected a harddisk of 1 GB (which is the image that I made), but it wants to format this. Will this affect my ext3 partition in any way ?
[08:21] <Rictoo|SLP> I have no idea on the answer, but I congratulate you for being careful and not just (after the accident) saying "OMG LINUX SUCKS!"
[08:21] <Rictoo|SLP> <3
[08:21] <codonil> lol
[08:22] <fdoving> codonil: no, that will not affect your ext3 parition. it will only format the file-system on the image-file you created.
[08:22] <codonil> ok, cool. Thanks :)
[08:22] <stdin> codonil: no, it will just format the file that it thinks is a disk
[08:23] <kzmcond> exit
[08:25] <webm> hello 2 all
[08:26] <trippppy> stdin, when i chmod it. do i do that as sudo?
[08:27] <stdin> you don't need to, unless it's owned by root
[08:27] <trippppy> kk
[08:27] <genii> webm welcome
[08:29] <animimotus> hi
[08:30] <webm> Can you help me to find russian channel about kubuntu
[08:30] <webm> ?
[08:30] <webm> pls sorry my english
[08:31] <fdoving> !ru | webm
[08:31] <ubotu> webm:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:31] <makuseru> how do i extract a rar from a term that has a password? i have the password i just dont know how to enter it
[08:31] <webm> thnx
[08:31] <fdoving> makuseru: unrar x file.rar, you'll be prompted for the password.. iirc
[08:31] <jussi01> Hello all, is there a way to make only the bottom panel transparent????
[08:32] <fdoving> jussi01: right-click -> configure panel.. -> appearance -> enable transparency ?
[08:36] <animimotus> I have made a distri update via adapt-manager from edgy to feisty but it stay to 6 %
[08:37] <animimotus> 8 hours and the update is not done....
[08:38] <animimotus> could I stop all and made it with command line ?
[08:38] <animimotus> genii: sure but I made like in the french wiki with my parents on telephone :)
[08:39] <stdin> there is always "sudo do-release-upgrade" from the cli
[08:39] <Rictoo|SLP> I just spent about 3hr to download flightgear
[08:39] <genii> stdin You think halting dist-upgrade is viable?
[08:39] <Rictoo|SLP> to find out I get .5 fps
[08:39] <Tired_> What's different between the grub in Edgy and the one in Feisty?  Are they compatible with each other?
[08:40] <stdin> genii: hmm, don't see why not
[08:40] <genii> stdin I guess so long as he's not reverting it
[08:41] <stdin> during the download stage it shouldn't be a problem
[08:41] <genii> !info grub edgy
[08:41] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB
[08:41] <genii> !info grub feisty
[08:41] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-20ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 370 kB, installed size 824 kB
[08:41] <genii> Tired_: They should be compatible
[08:42] <Tired_> Sweet!
[08:42] <animimotus> can I kill all the distri-update process and relauch it in command line? what do you think about?
[08:42] <genii> animimotus: We seem to agree that halting it will not be too problemmatic
[08:43] <animimotus> genii: ok, so I must kill python too?
[08:44] <animimotus> adapt_manager
[08:44] <genii> animimotus: stdin recommends from commandline "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[08:44] <genii> animimotus: Yes, you need to kill adept as well
[08:45] <stdin> Tired_: if you want to know the exact changes to grub from edgy to feisty, it's here: http://stdin.pastebin.us/36054
[08:45] <animimotus> ok to release? without a update / upgrade before?
[08:45] <animimotus> genii:
[08:46] <Tired_> No, I just wanted to know if I set up drives with an Edgy cd, if I can copy my existing Feisty install onto it.
[08:46] <stdin> do-release-upgrade is the server/cli version of the dist-upgrade manager
[08:46] <genii> animimotus: Since almost all apps will be auto-upgraded this is not strictly neccesary
[08:47] <stdin> Tired_: should be fine, all grub does is load the kernel in to the memory and mount the initramfs, any version should do
[08:47] <Tired_> :)  Yay!
[08:47] <genii> Tired_: Since there are no major diffs in the menu.list and basic way it works from on to next pretty safe
[08:47] <Tired_> Saves me from having to buy Ghost
[08:49] <genii> just as an aside there is a linux ghost
[08:49] <Tired_> Oh?
[08:49] <stdin> dd
[08:50] <Tired_> That will clone whole installs and resize?
[08:50] <Tired_> I asked here a few days ago if dd would do that, and they told me no.
[08:51] <stdin> dd is just a direct image of the disk, so probably not
[08:51] <genii> Tired_:  http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/
[08:52] <Tired_> I wish you guys were here when I started this odyssey
[08:52] <Bree> o.o
[08:52] <animimotus> genii: | stdin ok a kill all python's pid but now with a  sudo do-release-upgrade I have : sudo: do-release-upgrade: command not found
[08:53] <Rictoo|SLP> animimotus: Try sudo do release-upgrade
[08:53] <animimotus> $ sudo do release-upgrade                                                                   1
[08:53] <animimotus> sudo: do: command not found
[08:53] <stdin> animimotus: make sure you have update-manager-core installed
[08:56] <animimotus> stdin: thx
[08:56] <genii> animimotus: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core   before the do-release-upgrade part
[08:57] <fdoving> animimotus: you can also check if installing update-manager-core is usefull at all, with 'lsb_release -sc' if it returns feisty do-release-upgrade will not touch anything.
[08:57] <genii> fdoving He says is going edgy > feisty
[08:58] <fdoving> genii: yes, but do-release-upgrade checks http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release vs 'lsb_release -sc'
[08:58] <fdoving> if his previous upgrade attempt managed to change anything, that would fail.
[08:58] <fdoving> but i doubt it did.
[08:59] <fdoving> as it was at the download stage.
[08:59] <genii> fdoving Ah, good to know
[09:02] <genii> animimotus:  Is it progressing now?
[09:03] <kraut> moin
[09:08] <animimotus> genii: yes it seems.,houra \o/
[09:14] <ranjan> looking for a mp3 player Wolverine ESP or cowon a2 any suggestions?
[09:26] <genii> ranjan http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=441306
[09:31] <amin81> hi everyone!
[09:31] <amin81> 2 questions: 1. How do I add more language layouts to my keyboard?
[09:31] <felzix> hi
[09:31] <asutp> 
[09:32] <amin81> 2. How do I change my mouse pointer speed so it moves faster? I am using a laptop with a mousepad
[09:35] <amin81> ?
[09:38] <amin81> one more question: How can I play avi files? Sorry, first tme linux-user... :s
[09:38] <fdoving> !codecs | amin81
[09:38] <ubotu> amin81: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:38] <nimble> vlc is the easiest way
[09:39] <fdoving> but it's nice to have support for some codecs in the rest of the system too. even if vlc can do some out of the box.
[09:39] <amin81> nimble: where do I download vlc?
[09:39] <nimble> to get the mouse pointer faster go to system settings>keyboard & mouse>mouse>advanced
[09:39] <nimble> just search for it in adept manager
[09:40] <nimble> pointer acceleration controls the speed of the cursor
[09:40] <nimble> pointer threshold controls when acceleration kicks in, or if you have it on 1_n then theres no acceleration
[09:42] <amin81> nimble: i tried to change settings in the advanced section but no difference is made
[09:43] <tripppy> stdin, hey. check this out. my xplaination
[09:43] <amin81> nimble: the mouse is less important, I will figure it out later. Thanks for the help regarding that. More important, how do i add more language layouts for keyboard?
[09:43] <nimble> system settings>regional & language>keyboard layout
[09:44] <amin81> nimble: Ok, thanx a lot!
[09:49] <vit> my built-in card reader does not work on my laptop
[09:50] <vit> who can help me?
[09:54] <amin81> nimble: i cannot find the vlc player??
[09:55] <tripppy> stdin, hey. check this out. my xplaination http://pastebin.ca/488923
[09:55] <nimble> hmm maybe its one of the extra repositories
[09:56] <amin81> nimble: and how do I install it then? Sorry for my simple questions, I am a first time linux user.
[09:57] <amin81> nimble: cant I just add any video/audio codec package and run the videos with the standard players?
[09:58] <nimble> vlc is just easier than messing around with codecs
[09:59] <nimble> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:00] <amin81> nimble: gotcha! thanx!!
[10:00] <nimble> actually that doesnt seem to say how to do it in kubuntu
[10:01] <nimble> just open adept manager then adept>manage repositories
[10:02] <amin81> nimble: yeah, just realized that :(
[10:03] <nimble> in the software sources window just tick all the ones in the kubuntu software tab
[10:04] <amin81> ok!
[10:05] <epimeth> good morning fellow kubuntuers!
[10:05] <epimeth> anybody know why hal is being held back?
[10:05] <crimsun> are you using dist-upgrade?
[10:06] <epimeth> also, anyone know where I can see what the latest updates are instead of just what packages are being updated?
[10:06] <epimeth> crimsun: I know to dist-upgrade... I just want to know why it's being held back in the normal update
[10:06] <epimeth> erm, upgrade
[10:06] <amin81> nimble: Im on the correct path now i think...thnx!!!
[10:06] <crimsun> well, what does it depend on that's not installed via upgrade?  :)
[10:07] <epimeth> thats what I'm asking you! :-p
[10:07] <crimsun> what system is this on?
[10:07] <epimeth> feisty
[10:07] <epimeth> fully updated
[10:08] <epimeth> except for hal :-)
[10:08] <crimsun> 0.5.8.1-4ubuntu12?
[10:08] <epimeth> heh... forgot how to check that?
[10:09] <epimeth> proc something, no?
[10:09] <crimsun> apt-cache policy hal
[10:09] <epimeth> oh, the hal vers... right... one sec
[10:09] <epimeth> right... I see
[10:09] <epimeth> the candidate is a step up... *and* feisty
[10:09] <epimeth> so yea
[10:10] <epimeth> 0.5.8.1-4ubuntu12
[10:10] <epimeth> this apt-cache thing is pretty useful ^.^
[10:11] <epimeth> just gotta remember it now
[10:11] <epimeth> recon I should install?
[10:11] <epimeth> also, know where I can get info on what the update includes?
[10:13] <fdoving> there is a nifty tool called apt-listchanges, if that does what you want.
[10:14] <guillermo> hello
[10:14] <guillermo> i need some help anyone?
[10:15] <nimble> just ask
[10:15] <guillermo> ok here is the thing
[10:15] <guillermo> i am an windows XP user,
[10:15] <guillermo> i installed kubuntu 6.06 2 days ago
[10:16] <guillermo> i love it, but i cant get it to install anything
[10:16] <nimble> most stuff you install via adept manager
[10:16] <guillermo> i am new in linux, and i have tried to use, apt-get and aptitude install,
[10:17] <epimeth> fdoving: I'm not sure... do I have to download the deb to check the changes?  isn't there somewhere (launchpad maybe?) where the changes are already listed?
[10:17] <nimble> btw, why did you install 6.06 over 7.04?
[10:17] <guillermo> well i read somewhere that 7.04 was unstable
[10:18] <guillermo> and i wanted to learn from something i know works for sure, isted of wondering if it is me who is messing things up
[10:18] <zhangkai> Why my resolve.conf was overwrited by  Kubuntu netmanager?
[10:18] <nimble> ok, well its easiest to use adept manager than the command line
[10:19] <fdoving> epimeth: ah, yeah, you can see changelogs at http://changelogs.ubuntu.com there are also links from the package-pages at for example: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/kde/klamav - bottom of the page.
[10:19] <guillermo> i unistalled amarok, via adept, and tried to install it again but it does not work, i can se amarok and it's blu icon, the wheel, but i cant book the square beside it
[10:19] <nimble> book the square?
[10:20] <nimble> oh you need in adept manager?
[10:20] <guillermo> her ei am blending swedish and english, sorry fot that.
[10:20] <guillermo> i mean, there is a little square beside the program, puting a check sign on it by clicking on it is what i meant
[10:21] <guillermo> but adept does not let me
[10:21] <epimeth> fdoving: packages.ubuntu.com doesn't have backports?
[10:22] <nimble> hmm adept managers different in 7.04 :-/
[10:22] <epimeth> also no backports in changelogs?
[10:22] <guillermo> well, is there anyway for me to update to 7.04 via 6.06
[10:23] <nimble> !update
[10:23] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[10:23] <epimeth> guillermo: I would suggest you do a fresh install, but thats just me.  also, you'll need to update twice (6.06 -> 6.10, then 6.10 -> 7.04)
[10:24] <epimeth> guillermo: and just so you know, feisty is not unstable anymore
[10:24] <guillermo> well i burned a copy  of 704
[10:24] <guillermo> but i dont remeber if i tried it or not
[10:24] <epimeth> zhangkai: because resolv.conf is *supposed* to be overriden by whatever network manager you are using.
[10:25] <epimeth> zhangkai: is you were using dhclient it would be overriden as well
[10:25] <guillermo> i tryed several linux distributions,
[10:25] <fdoving> epimeth: i though launchpad had some sort of changelog feature, but i can't find it.
[10:26] <djdarkman> hy, at at  boot I get message that mount point 0 does not exist, how do I know wich one is mount point 0 from the fstab?
[10:26] <epimeth> guillermo: when did you burn feisty?  it might have been back when it *was* unstable, so you might want to get a new one... I'd suggest you use jigdo so you don't have to download *all* of the packages again :-)
[10:27] <guillermo> and how do i do that?
[10:27] <guillermo> i downloaded it when i was in xp
[10:27] <fdoving> epimeth: closest i can think of is the .changes files from each build. for example for klamav, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/klamav - select version from the publishing history, then click on the build, for example 'i386' - that gives https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/318975 - which then has a link to the .changes file.
[10:27] <guillermo> i burned it 2 days ago
[10:27] <epimeth> fdoving: okay... so here's my bottom line.  I compiled my own sound driver from alsa with a patch.  will hal override that? I want it to
[10:28] <_4strO> djdarkman: look into your /etc/fstab you will find the one ;)
[10:28] <epimeth> guillermo: so thats fine... you should just install it then :-)
[10:28] <guillermo> i'll be back later then
[10:28] <epimeth> guillermo: I was worried we were talking like 2 months ago, when it was unstable
[10:28] <djdarkman> I looked but since edgy ubuntu is using very strange fstab entires
[10:28] <djdarkman> I don`t understand them
[10:28] <fdoving> epimeth: not sure. food bbl.
[10:28] <epimeth> zhangkai: you got my messages?
[10:28] <guillermo> uh, another thing,
[10:28] <_4strO> djdarkman: UUID ?
[10:28] <djdarkman> yes
[10:29] <guillermo> when i installed kubuntu i kept getting a message about a hdd block corrupted and a number and it kept like that for about 3 hours,
[10:29] <djdarkman> I don`t know what they mean or how to test them if they are valid
[10:29] <epimeth> guillermo: thats not good
[10:29] <_4strO> !uid
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <guillermo> i went to school and came back and then it was asking me for install configurations and so on
[10:29] <_4strO> !uuid
[10:29] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:29] <guillermo> i used windows to check the disks, but nothing there
[10:30] <epimeth> guillermo: does that really surprise you? :-)
[10:30] <guillermo> hahahaha!
[10:30] <guillermo> does kubuntu 6.06 have any software for reparing the disk
[10:30] <epimeth> guillermo: personally, I would nuke the disk... but if you don't know what you're doing you might want to ask a friend who does to do it for you
[10:31] <guillermo> nuke it?
[10:31] <epimeth> guillermo: low level format
[10:31] <djdarkman> this is my first entrie in fstab proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 ,how could it not be valid since it works?
[10:31] <guillermo> damn it
[10:32] <epimeth> guillermo: short of that any fix is just temporary and sometimes leads to more corruption of the disk
[10:32] <_4strO> djdarkman: can you paste your file ?
[10:32] <nimble> hardware disk manufacturers usually have software to check if it the disk is damaged or something
[10:32] <djdarkman> sure
[10:32] <djdarkman> wait a sec
[10:32] <_4strO> yep
[10:32] <epimeth> nimble: I've used seagate's and westerndigital's software to try and fix their respective disks... nothing ever worked for me (long term) short of a full wipe
[10:33] <epimeth> guillermo: yea... sounds bad but as long as you back everything up you should be fine
[10:33] <djdarkman> _4strO: http://djdarkman.pastebin.us/36116
[10:34] <epimeth> guillermo: another solution would be to buy a new hard drive... they run pretty cheap these days
[10:34] <guillermo> well i ahve formated my disk before, using DOS and windows
[10:34] <epimeth> guillermo: not format, low level format
[10:34] <guillermo> i feel lik and ignorant now
[10:34] <nimble> their programs can usually test if a disk is dying as well
[10:35] <epimeth> guillermo: formatting rewrites the file tables (the disk 'forgets' where everything is)... low level formatting actually writes 0's to the entire drive.  this takes a loooong time
[10:35] <epimeth> a few hours, to be precise
[10:35] <guillermo> and the information on the disk is gone both wyas right?
[10:36] <nimble> yes, but if you only format then you can recover data pretty easily
[10:37] <_4strO> djdarkman: /media/w2 and /media/main really exist ?
[10:37] <epimeth> guillermo: no.  a regular format does not delete the info, but you need special software to get it back... a low level format will wipe it completely to anyone who isn't a computer forensics (sp?) expert who has special hardware.  low level formatting 6 times in a row will wipe the information completely off the disk, but will also shorten the disk's life span
[10:37] <djdarkman> I`m using main right now
[10:37] <_4strO> djdarkman: evertything looks good in your file
[10:38] <djdarkman> w2 works too
[10:38] <guillermo> that sound scary
[10:38] <djdarkman> hmmm don`t know then why does mount complain
[10:38] <guillermo> ok i have 2 disk
[10:38] <epimeth> guillermo: it is, the first time... :-)
[10:38] <guillermo> pretty little
[10:38] <_4strO> djdarkman: sudo umount -a && mount -a
[10:38] <_4strO> do you have an error message ?
[10:38] <guillermo> on os 60 Gb and one is 40, i have windows partitions on the 40 GB-one, and kubuntu on the 60Bg one,
[10:39] <_4strO> (expext : cant unmount, still in use ...)
[10:39] <djdarkman> yes there all busy
[10:39] <epimeth> so the 60 gig one has corrupted sectors?
[10:39] <epimeth> guillermo: ^
[10:39] <guillermo> if i take all the important files to the 60Gb pictures files and so on, and low level format the 40 gb, and wiping out windows,, am i crazy?
[10:39] <djdarkman> but didn`t get that error that I get on boot
[10:39] <djdarkman> strange
[10:40] <_4strO> djdarkman: think you error message is not about the /etc/fstab file
[10:40] <djdarkman> what else is related to mount?
[10:40] <_4strO> what is "boot" for you ?
[10:40] <_4strO> enter session ?
[10:41] <djdarkman> befor X even starts
[10:41] <epimeth> guillermo: no, but you shouldn't be moving files from a hard drive that is okay to one that has corrupt sectors
[10:41] <zhangkai> epimeth:yes,i use dhclient,can knetworkmanager  add the DNSs?.
[10:41] <guillermo> Is Matlab available for kubuntu?
[10:41] <guillermo> i dont nkw whic one is corrupt!
[10:42] <_4strO> djdarkman: i made a mistake above : sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a
[10:42] <_4strO> :p
[10:42] <_4strO> i forgot a sudo :p
[10:42] <djdarkman> I didn`t notice it eighter :)
[10:42] <epimeth> guillermo: you said that you got warnings when you were installing kubuntu, right?  that was to the 60GB drive?
[10:42] <djdarkman> no change
[10:42] <_4strO> i thought :p
[10:43] <guillermo> well i am going to descirbre exaclty what i did
[10:43] <_4strO> but never know ;)
[10:43] <djdarkman> ohhh yes there is
[10:43] <djdarkman> if i try sudo mount -a only
[10:43] <epimeth> zhangkai: yes, in manual configuration
[10:43] <epimeth> zhangkai: but that defeats the purpose of dhcp
[10:43] <djdarkman> djdarkman@Darknet:~$ sudo mount -a
[10:43] <djdarkman> mount: mount point 0 does not exist
[10:43] <guillermo> i put the live cd on, i reboot the pc, it started directly from the cd, (i was rtying to install ubuntu)
[10:43] <_4strO> mmm
[10:44] <djdarkman> mount point 0 should be proc but that`s okay
[10:44] <guillermo> several options came up, i picked "start or install ubuntu"
[10:44] <guillermo> then it said, unpacking linux....ok, starting kernel...
[10:44] <guillermo> the screen went black, and a erros message came up saying something i remember like this
[10:45] <_4strO> djdarkman: /proc isn't the mistake
[10:45] <djdarkman> yeah I know
[10:45] <_4strO> i have it too in my fstab and no problem with it
[10:45] <guillermo> [a bunch of numbers]   hdd_idr. : huh? buffer I/O error on device kdd logical block 282319
[10:46] <djdarkman> you get same error?
[10:46] <guillermo> it sayd "hdd" instead of "kdd"
[10:46] <guillermo> and it keeps coming up for hours, changing the last number
[10:47] <djdarkman> btw I tried commenting out the lines and trying mount, no use
[10:47] <_4strO> djdarkman: the only thing i'm not sure are the lines #blkid output, they dont have #
[10:47] <djdarkman> that`s not in my fstab
[10:48] <epimeth> guillermo: hdd is the slave on the secondary IDE cable.  do you know which disks are connected where?
[10:48] <djdarkman> that was a blkid outout from the console
[10:48] <_4strO> looool ok :)
[10:48] <epimeth> guillermo: and yes, there is a linux version of matlab available
[10:48] <djdarkman> to show you the UIDs
[10:48] <guillermo> the primary is the 40gb, where i have C: partition for wndows
[10:48] <guillermo> then the slave should be 60 GB
[10:48] <djdarkman> didn`t expect you to know my UID`s so I wrote them down
[10:50] <djdarkman> is there a way that I can make the boot "never verbose"?
[10:50] <djdarkman> I mean I prefer watching the loading screen than the boot outputs
[10:50] <_4strO> i dont know but a best way is to find why you have this message :p
[10:51] <djdarkman> write a new fstab?
[10:52] <epimeth> guillermo: and you are sure you installed onto the 60GB disk?
[10:52] <epimeth> guillermo: erm, installed linux on the 60*
[10:53] <_4strO> djdarkman: are you sure you dont have any lines without comment at the beginning of your file
[10:53] <guillermo> well when i installed kubuntu i got the same message for hours, but when i got back from school kubunto desktop was up, and i installed it from there, it asked me where, and i did a partition manually, on the 60 gb drive
[10:53] <guillermo> so i am pretty sure is on the 60 gb
[10:53] <djdarkman> _4strO: no but I`m cheking
[10:54] <zhangkai> Is  manual config priority  dhcp client?epimeth.
[10:55] <epimeth> guillermo: great.  so you should move things from linux to windows to back them up, then nuke the linux disk and install feisty onto the freshly cleaned 60
[10:55] <guillermo> what do you mean moving linux stuff to windows
[10:56] <djdarkman> hmmm maybe it doens`t pharse the comments correctly
[10:56] <guillermo> moving everythin from the 60 gb disk (where i have linux) to the 40 GB (where i have windows)  is that what you meant?
[10:57] <djdarkman> ahhh I found it
[10:57] <djdarkman> the last one, main is the problematic
[10:57] <_4strO> ha ?
[10:57] <djdarkman> is it because I didn`t use UID on that one?
[10:58] <djdarkman> /dev/hda6 /media/main vfat umask=000,uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,nouser,quiet 0 0
[10:58] <djdarkman>  iocharset=utf8,umask=000\040\0400\040\040\040\0400,uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,nouser 0 0
[10:58] <epimeth> zhangkai: afaik, ifup runs when you boot the machine (settings are in /etc/network/interfaces). then, when you log in to X, knetworkmanager runs.  I haven't looked into it too much, tho.
[10:58] <djdarkman> I used /dev/hda6 because I didn`t understand what are these UIDs
[10:58] <_4strO> djdarkman: there are too much options
[10:59] <epimeth> zhangkai: oh... misunderstood your question.  yes, manual takes priority over dhcp
[10:59] <epimeth> guillermo: not everything, just the things you want saved... documents, pictures, movies, etc
[10:59] <epimeth> guillermo: but, yes.  from linux to windows
[10:59] <_4strO> djdarkman: just comment : iocharset=utf8,umask=000\040\0400\040\040\040\0400,uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,nouser 0 0
[10:59] <epimeth> guillermo: your windows drive seems to be okay
[10:59] <djdarkman> _4strO: what options are not noeeded? I wanted to make it write and viewable to my user and viewable to other users
[10:59] <guillermo> ok i dont think i have enough space, but it shoyld be the same if i burn a dvd with the stuff rigt?
[11:00] <_4strO> or merge it with the line above
[11:00] <djdarkman> hmmm no eror
[11:00] <guillermo> and how do i do the low level format?
[11:00] <epimeth> guillermo: yes, backing up onto DVD is perfectly safe, as long as you don't scratch it :-)
[11:00] <_4strO> djdarkman: infact i dont know exactly
[11:01] <guillermo> and how do i do the low level format?
[11:01] <epimeth> as for low level formatting, you have to get that from the hard drive manufacturer or some third party software.  try looking for "download hardware tools" on the hard drive manufacturer's site
[11:02] <djdarkman> ok thanks _4strO it works now
[11:02] <guillermo> and do it from windows i guess?
[11:02] <epimeth> if you can't find that then talk to a friend of yours who is computer savvy, s/he'll probably have something for you
[11:02] <djdarkman> the problem was that there was a newline there
[11:02] <mo0osah> !konversation
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <epimeth> guillermo: no, you'll be booting from a cd / disk
[11:03] <guillermo> ok and i can configure it, and then leave it there for hours right?
[11:03] <epimeth> guillermo: change "can" to "will" :-)
[11:03] <epimeth> guillermo: but I would strongly suggest that you do not do it alone
[11:04] <epimeth> guillermo: its always best to have someone who has done it before help you out
[11:04] <guillermo> i dont know anyone
[11:04] <guillermo> i mean not anyone who has any eperience on pcs than me
[11:05] <epimeth> guillermo: oh... so you decided to move to linux without anyone pushing you? good job! :-)
[11:05] <guillermo> yeah,
[11:05] <guillermo> i am trying to make my friends to do it aswell
[11:05] <epimeth> so in that case, just be very careful and make sure you read everything before committing to anything, okay?
[11:05] <guillermo> i hate windows
[11:05] <guillermo> i am cheking oin wikipedia,
[11:06] <zhangkai> why my armarok cann't  play mp3?
[11:06] <epimeth> zhangkai: you need to install the codecs
[11:06] <epimeth> !codecs
[11:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:06] <epimeth> :-)
[11:07] <epimeth> guillermo, zhangkai:  I'm gonna go eat something... I'll bbl.  if you need anything just ask, someone will help you... right _4strO? :-p
[11:07] <epimeth> djdarkman: reboot went well?
[11:07] <guillermo> thx for the help
[11:08] <zhangkai> thx for your help
[11:08] <epimeth> guillermo: good luck... and I'm sure you'll be impressed with feisty... many many improvements over 6.06
[11:08] <djdarkman> yes, all I need is to fix that fstab line,It`s still not good as it should be
[11:09] <epimeth> zhangkai: no worries
[11:10] <_4strO> heuuu
[11:16] <djdarkman> is there a way to debug udev?
[11:17] <djdarkman> It`s randomly assignning symlinks for my two soundcards
[11:17] <Skrot-> Hi, I've got some media buttons on my computer to adjust the sound level using KMilo(?). Can I adjust how much up/down it's supposed to change the sound?
[11:37] <fdoving> Skrot-: no, you can not. it's hardcoded iirc.
[11:37] <fdoving> Skrot-: i think you can use ctrl+mediabutton to use smaller intervals.
[11:40] <Skrot-> fdoving: You're right about the ctrl-part, but it only seems to work when I adjust the volume down here
[11:40] <fdoving> Skrot-: yes, here too. it's a bug.
[11:40] <Skrot-> okay :)
[11:51] <VSpike> Hi people.  My Konqueror is behaving very oddly in terms of what toolbars and menus it shows, and what it puts on those toolbars.  The problems seem to relate entirely to file browsing modes.  Can I delete the konqueror configuration files, and if so, where are they?
[11:53] <Ilokaasu> VSpike: usually all personal cfg files are at your home folder, hidden tough
[11:53] <ceefour> hi all.
[11:53] <ceefour> I'm trying to upgrade to Feisty from Edgy
[11:53] <Ilokaasu> so look files starting with .example
[11:53] <ceefour> using local files, but it says the package won't authenticate
[11:53] <Ilokaasu>  like /home/jotain/.file
[11:54] <ceefour> is there a way to skip this authentication or make it authenticate my local files?
[11:54] <ceefour> Please help I kindly request this
[11:55] <mantice> !java
[11:55] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:55] <mantice> Is there a way to turn eyecandy = off ?
[11:58] <K99Brain> hi
[11:58] <VSpike> Ilokaasu: find -iname 'konq*' in ~/.kde returns about a dozen items.  Not sure which to remove!
[11:59] <K99Brain> someone can tell me how can i reactivate the shutdown and reboot buttons whit beryl and Xgl?
[11:59] <K99Brain> In Kubuntu?
[11:59] <Ilokaasu> VSpike: i dont know for sure which to delete...google might know
[12:00] <VSpike> hehe .. I'm sure it does, if can figure out the right question to ask it ;)
[12:00] <VSpike> let me try some incantations
[12:16] <Banjooie> Okay, so I have screwed up installing 7.04 with a fiery vengeance.
[12:16] <Banjooie> I did it from the CD, even reformatted the entire hard drive before doing it.
[12:17] <Banjooie> It appears to be loading, but my monitor tells me that it's sending an unusable range--this is in general when something is 640x480, for instance.
[12:17] <Banjooie> I attempted to run startx with the boot loader CD, and that works, but then it hangs on load desktop.
[12:18] <Banjooie> Text-based screwing about with it via ctrl + alt + f1 seems to be claiming the entire hard drive is read only
[12:24] <mantice> !java
[12:24] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[12:34] <K_user> !kde
[12:34] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.6 for Feisty and Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[12:36] <K_user> !gnome
[12:36] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[12:36] <K_user> !firefox
[12:37] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:38] <K_user> !floppy
[12:38] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[12:38] <Fahuadai> hello guys. I was wondering if anyone can tell me how to write a script that will open all *.jpg image files in say the GIMP, resize them all to a lower resolution, and save them to 'fileSm.jpg'  ?
[12:39] <Fahuadai> (for a particular folder)
[12:40] <K99Brain> Hi, someone can tell me how can i reactivate the shutdown and reboot buttons with Kubuntu?
[12:43] <pag> K99Brain, Are you using feisty with GDM?
[12:43] <K99Brain> no. Feisty with kdm
[12:43] <K99Brain> I've kubuntu
[12:48] <K_user> !shutdown
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <banjooie> Okay, managed to get it up and running
[01:04] <banjooie> however one of my other hard drives inexplicably isn't working now, and claims that it's corrupt
[01:04] <banjooie> or rather, that the superblock is corrupt
[01:07] <K_user> !konqueror detailed file list
[01:07] <mo0osah> any good tutorial to get beryl work without any prior knowledge
[01:07] <K_user> !konqueror
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <mo0osah> !beryl
[01:07] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:08] <_4strO> mo0osah: wich video card ?
[01:08] <mo0osah> ATI X300
[01:09] <_4strO> mo0osah: type : glxinfo | grep render (in a console)
[01:09] <_4strO> have you direct rendering: Yes ?
[01:10] <mo0osah> Yes
[01:10] <mo0osah> sorry, I'm completely new to linux
[01:10] <_4strO> mo0osah: just type : sudo apt-get install beryl-manager emerald-themes
[01:10] <mo0osah> ok
[01:10] <banjooie> heh
[01:10] <banjooie> linux is cool, it's just that the learning curve kinna sucks
[01:11] <mo0osah> hehe, i have two whole weeks before summer school starts =)
[01:11] <mo0osah> ok, it did a whole bunch of stuff and said setting up emerald-themes ....
[01:12] <_4strO> mo0osah: installation finished ?
[01:12] <mo0osah> I assume so
[01:12] <_4strO> mo0osah: type : bery-manager in a console
[01:12] <mo0osah> k
[01:12] <_4strO> and look the result
[01:12] <_4strO> any error ?
[01:12] <mo0osah> got the bouncing beryl logo
[01:12] <mo0osah> ok it went away
[01:13] <mo0osah> no changes
[01:13] <_4strO> just right click on the beryl logo and select windows manager
[01:14] <mo0osah> I dont see beryl logo anywhere
[01:14] <mo0osah> its the busy jumping logo...
[01:14] <banjooie> Oh, yeah, so
[01:14] <_4strO> mo0osah: you closed the console ?
[01:14] <banjooie> Every time I start anything
[01:14] <banjooie> it complains that there's no device 169
[01:14] <banjooie> Pretty sure this is a wacom tablet it's talking about
[01:14] <banjooie> any way to fix that
[01:14] <mo0osah> no
[01:14] <_4strO> banjooie: you're right
[01:15] <_4strO> !device
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about device - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <mo0osah> ok its working
[01:15] <_4strO> banjooie: can you paste the error
[01:15] <mo0osah> everything is crazy fast
[01:15] <banjooie> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[01:15] <_4strO> ok
[01:15] <banjooie> then this minor opcode, major opcode, whatever the heck
[01:15] <_4strO> !baddevice | banjooie
[01:15] <ubotu> banjooie: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[01:16] <mo0osah> I have 16 desktops an stuff
[01:16] <banjooie> ah, okay, that's easy enough to fix
[01:16] <_4strO> mo0osah: beryl is on ?
[01:16] <_4strO> banjooie: yes, and in fact it's not necessary, just more pleasant :p
[01:17] <mo0osah> yes, the graphics getting messed up occasionaly
[01:17] <mo0osah> but yes it's on
[01:17] <_4strO> :)
[01:17] <mo0osah> thanks
[01:17] <_4strO> YW
[01:18] <jujimufu> I have linked to beryl-manager on ~/.kde/Autostart ( I did ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager, and the file is created in the folder ), but beryl does not start automatically when I restart X or my PC. I have linked files by doing the exact same thing, and the problem is that my screenlets are opened automatically, but beryl is not. Any ideas?
[01:19] <_4strO> jujimufu: you have the beryl icon or nothing ?
[01:20] <jujimufu> _4strO: nothing. The application has no problem running; if I click on the beryl-manager icon under the Kmenu, it runs properly (loads the icon etc). It just won't auto-start
[01:21] <banjooie> ...should pagedown be producing a tilde in konsole?
[01:21] <banjooie> I'm pretty sure it shouldn't.
[01:21] <nick_> kanenas p kipro
[01:21] <jujimufu> nick_: ego, apo ellada
[01:21] <jujimufu> banjooie: yes.
[01:22] <nick_> xxeris pos na pezi mp3 kai genika  multimedia to feisty fawn
[01:22] <banjooie> hm
[01:22] <banjooie> okay, then, tinyfugue is just retarded then.
[01:22] <banjooie> stop being dumb, tinyfugue! Bad!
[01:22] <mo0osah> _4strO: how do i put beryl in startup
[01:23] <guillermo> hi
[01:23] <banjooie> yes
[01:23] <banjooie> now that is the question I need an answer to
[01:23] <guillermo> i am trying to low-level format my drive
[01:23] <banjooie> how do I make print screen not activate ksnapshot
[01:23] <banjooie> please god how
[01:23] <_4strO> mo0osah and jujimufu create a file in ~/.kde/Autostart named startberyl or wathever
[01:23] <guillermo> i've downloaded the bootfisk from the manufaturer page and all
[01:24] <guillermo> but when i restart it stops and says and an error comes up, it seems it's not able to detect ide secondary master
[01:24] <jujimufu> _4strO: hm.. so you mean we should just create an executable file which in turn will run the beryl-manager instead of linking beryl-manager to ~/.kde/Autostart?
[01:24] <banjooie> oh god I have to make sound work again
[01:24] <_4strO> jujimufu: yes
[01:24] <jujimufu> _4strO: ok, I'll try that.
[01:25] <_4strO> jujimufu: put in beryl-manager &
[01:25] <jujimufu> _4strO: well, since it's autorun, I don't think the & is needed. Is it?
[01:25] <_4strO> mo0osah: i think it is
[01:26] <jujimufu> _4strO: ok. It doesn't matter anyway.
[01:26] <jujimufu> brb
[01:26] <_4strO> ok
[01:26] <defcon> how do I make a screenshot in kubuntu with printscreen
[01:26] <_4strO> mo0osah: still here ?
[01:26] <mo0osah> yea
[01:27] <mo0osah> my settings were to crazy and messing up the graphics
[01:27] <banjooie> defcon: usually ksnapshot opens up and is like 'hey, I'm lagging your system!'
[01:27] <banjooie> which is why I'm wondering how you turn that /off/
[01:27] <mo0osah> trying to lower the features
[01:27] <K_user> defon : click on saveas
[01:28] <defcon> it doesnt pop up
[01:28] <defcon> when i press print screen
[01:28] <defcon> I installed kubuntu on top of ubuntu
[01:28] <defcon> is that y
[01:29] <_4strO> defcon: dpkg -l | grep ksnapshot
[01:29] <defcon> defcon@ion:~$ dpkg -l | grep ksnapshot
[01:29] <defcon> ii  ksnapshot                                  3.5.6-0ubuntu4                         screenshot utility for KDE
[01:29] <defcon> defcon@ion:~$
[01:29] <_4strO> ok
[01:30] <defcon> the key isnt binded
[01:30] <defcon> is there a setting
[01:30] <_4strO> yup
[01:31] <defcon> where bro
[01:31] <K_user> defcon :can u select manually (K-menu)
[01:31] <defcon> yea
[01:32] <defcon> I can run ksnapshot
[01:32] <defcon> manually
[01:32] <defcon> it isnt binded tho
[01:32] <K_user> can u set a hortcut?
[01:32] <K_user> shortcut
[01:32] <_4strO> system settings / mouse and keyboard
[01:32] <defcon> ok
[01:35] <defcon> hmm
[01:35] <K_user> defcon: no work?
[01:36] <jujimufu> _4strO: nope, it still doesn't work...
[01:36] <defcon> nada, im trying to change my settings
[01:36] <defcon> trying again
[01:36] <K_user> do u know how to set s/cut?
[01:38] <defcon> yea it looks self explanitory but its not working
[01:38] <defcon> hmm
[01:38] <K_user> ur at command shortcuts?
[01:39] <defcon> yes
[01:39] <defcon> im at kscreenshot
[01:39] <defcon> snapshot
[01:39] <defcon> custom
[01:39] <defcon> print
[01:39] <_4strO> defcon: alt + F2 then kcontrol and go to the region and accessibility
[01:40] <_4strO> defcon: dont know the translate in english but like enter actions
[01:40] <defcon> alt f4 closes shit like windows
[01:40] <_4strO> defcon: alt + F2
[01:41] <JuJuBee> Ever since I upgraded to Feisty, I cannot log into KDE, but can log in to GNOME.  What can I do to fix this?  It takes forever to get to KDE desktop then things don't work...
[01:41] <defcon> ok tun prompt
[01:41] <defcon> run*
[01:41] <_4strO> type : kcontrol
[01:41] <defcon> in accessibility
[01:41] <_4strO> yes
[01:42] <_4strO> nop
[01:42] <_4strO> sorry
[01:42] <defcon> shortcuts are in there
[01:42] <_4strO> not shotcut, something like enter actions
[01:42] <_4strO> the second one
[01:42] <defcon> input actions
[01:42] <_4strO> yes
[01:43] <defcon> preset actions print screen
[01:43] <defcon> Launches KSnapShot when PrintScrn is pressed.
[01:44] <K_user> enabled?
[01:44] <defcon> yes
[01:44] <banjooie> 7.04 automatically comes with a 'make wine work' button
[01:44] <banjooie> that's awesome
[01:45] <_4strO> defcon: i have one action named ksnapshot
[01:45] <defcon> i have 2
[01:45] <_4strO> just under konqueror gestures
[01:45] <defcon> one is kmenu kde-ksnapshot
[01:45] <defcon> im gonna look
[01:46] <_4strO> mmm
[01:46] <defcon> none under gestures, one under menu editor entries and one preset actions
[01:46] <flake> as the releases keep coming, ubuntu seems to be more user-friendly
[01:47] <thomas0606> hallo?
[01:47] <K_user> _4stro : what is the diff btw input actions and shortcut?
[01:47] <gagfish> hi
[01:48] <_4strO> K_user: dont know
[01:48] <K_user> ok
[01:48] <_4strO> K_user: think a priority difference
[01:48] <K_user> ok -thks
[01:49] <zhangkai> how to know the using version of kde?
[01:49] <_4strO> kdesktop --verion
[01:49] <_4strO> kdesktop --version
[01:49] <_4strO> :p
[01:49] <flake> what is Qt  ?
[01:50] <_4strO> !qt
[01:50] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[01:50] <OutoLumo> flake, QT is a collection of software components (graphical user interface and others) that can be used in other applications. KDE uses it heavily.
[01:51] <flake> ok ty
[01:52] <banjooie> hey, this 'autopackage' thing makes a lot of sense
[01:52] <zhangkai> get it
[01:52] <_4strO> i hate this package :p
[01:52] <_4strO> oups my mistake
[01:52] <_4strO> bad windowsd
[01:53] <JuJuBee> Anybody ?  I cannot log into KDE, only GNOME at the moment.
[01:54] <_4strO> JuJuBee: what is the error message ?
[01:54] <_4strO> or whats happend when you trry to get in KDE ?N
[01:55] <JuJuBee> I ge the blue background and it stays t here.  Takes a very long time to evenually even give me error.
[01:56] <_4strO> JuJuBee: how did you install KDE ?
[01:56] <JuJuBee> This only started happening sice I updated to 7.04
[01:56] <JuJuBee> I installed Ubuntu then the kde packages on top.
[01:56] <JuJuBee> Not kubuntu
[01:56] <defcon> im going to reinstall ksnapshot
[01:57] <JuJuBee> What should I remove and/or reinstall?
[01:57] <faidillinger> can someone please tell me how to make kmail run firefox instead of konqueror when i click on an url inside a mail ?? thank you
[01:57] <_4strO> JuJuBee: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <_4strO> to have KDE
[01:58] <JuJuBee> OK...  What if that is already installed?
[01:58] <gagfish> -o-;
[01:58] <JuJuBee> should I completely remove then install?
[01:58] <Jucato> faidillinger: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser
[01:59] <_4strO> JuJuBee: nop
[01:59] <faidillinger> OK thanks
[01:59] <faidillinger> thanks Jucato
[01:59] <JuJuBee> _4strO : what then?
[02:00] <_4strO> dont know atm
[02:01] <_4strO> Jucato: ? any idea ?
[02:01] <Jucato> _4strO: hm? um... nope...
[02:01] <_4strO> :p
[02:02] <JuJuBee> Got an error... "The process for the system protocol unexpectedly failed".
[02:02] <zhangkai> My reslove.conf is always  overriden by dhcpclient.How to prevent it ?
[02:10] <ubuntu> hello
[02:10] <ubuntu> i would like to ask a question
[02:10] <ubuntu> i am going to install kubuntu on my laptop
[02:11] <_4strO> ubuntu: great idea :)
[02:11] <ubuntu> i have fasttrack controller of RAID 0 and 1 and i wonder if thats possible to install kubuntu on my two drive raid0 set up?
[02:11] <_4strO> ha, i dont know about that ...
[02:12] <gagfish> -_-v
[02:12] <gagfish> why i was ignored -o-;
[02:12] <ubuntu> i set the array and it starts as 2 disk raid 0  but when i try to install it it coverts to 1 drive stripe and the other seems missing even though its there
[02:12] <faidillinger> i just love linux..... i got rid of windows and im so happy about it.....
[02:14] <gagfish> ...
[02:16] <Mena> Hi
[02:17] <Mena> So grub dont recongnize the new vista boot loader ,right ?
[02:17] <banjooie> Hey, if java's asking for libgtkpeer.so, which package do I download?
[02:17] <banjooie> THere doesn't seem to be a libgtkpeer package, so
[02:22] <Mena> banjooie, do this apt-cache search libgtkpeer
[02:23] <Mena> in terminal
[02:23] <banjooie> uh, didn't see a thing
[02:24] <Mena> banjooie, hmm ok i cant help much bec i dont know  libgtkpeer
[02:24] <Mena> Thanks..Bye
[02:30] <defcon_> how do I add/remove programs in kubuntu menu
[02:31] <defcon_> like terminal apps etc
[02:31] <bahr> is it really true that adept_updater does not work behind a proxy due to a bug??
[02:32] <gagfish> .
[02:33] <K_user> defcon : k->system->adept
[02:33] <defcon_> no
[02:33] <defcon_> i want to add stuff to the menu
[02:33] <defcon_> like nmap
[02:33] <defcon_> etc
[02:34] <banjooie> argh, wtf
[02:34] <banjooie> anyone know tinyfugue particularly well?
[02:34] <K_user> type in nmap at search
[02:35] <_4strO> defcon_: kmenuedit
[02:35] <defcon_> where is that located, i know I can type it in commandline
[02:35] <Jucato> defcon_: right-click on the K Menu icon
[02:35] <Jucato> Menu Editor
[02:35] <defcon_> word
[02:36] <defcon_> thnx
[02:42] <JuJuBee> OK, I just finished installing kubuntu-desktop and still cannot log into kde.  Taking verrrrryyyyy long time... no desktop yet.
[02:42] <_4strO> :/
[02:42] <_4strO> i have to go sorry
[02:43] <JuJuBee> K
[02:43] <_4strO> perhaps the problem is about gdm
[02:43] <JuJuBee> I set to kdm during intall of kubuntu-desktop
[02:43] <_4strO> ha ok
[02:44] <JuJuBee> Was gdm prior
[02:44] <JuJuBee> Ha as in Ha Ha Ha Ha... :) or as in Eureeka, I got it?
[02:45] <JuJuBee> Error (finally):"The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly"
[02:46] <mo0osah> how do you see a list of startup programs?
[02:52] <animimotus> hi
[02:52] <aro> !autostart
[02:52] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[02:52] <animimotus> I have mount my / with the live CD in /mnt/hdroot
[02:53] <animimotus> I can't edit the /etc/sudoers with sudo visu
[02:53] <animimotus> (I edit the live Cd file)
[02:53] <mugroso> everybody speak spanish??
[02:53] <aro> !es | mugroso
[02:53] <ubotu> mugroso: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:53] <animimotus> someone can give me the right command please?
[02:54] <pag> animimotus, why do you want to edit livecd file?
[02:55] <animimotus> pag: I want edit the /etc/sudoers on the hd :)
[02:56] <pag> animimotus, first mount the / of your HD somewhere, then chroot on it, then edit
[02:56] <_4strO> sudo nano /mnt/hdroot/etc/sudoers
[03:07] <Wu> Hello, everyone :)
[03:08] <dj_> hey
[03:08] <dj_> can anyone help me fix my resolution?
[03:09] <DJServers> hey all
[03:09] <DJServers> i am installing kubuntu right now on my pc
[03:09] <DJServers> look good
[03:10] <DJServers> hello is there someone=
[03:10] <Wu> I install the xorg-driver-fglrx on my Raden 9200, however, it seems not work. The system can't find the modules.....
[03:10] <DJServers> o
[03:10] <DJServers> dont now what your talking about P
[03:11] <socrano> where do i find a good kubuntu alternate cd image?
[03:11] <DJServers> dont now
[03:11] <DJServers> i have buyt the cd
[03:11] <DJServers> that is much better
[03:11] <DJServers> the most ISO dont work i dont now why
[03:11] <Jucato> !download | socrano
[03:11] <ubotu> socrano: Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[03:12] <DJServers> what is socrano=
[03:12] <tumlerlol12> can anyone help me fix my resolution?
[03:12] <DJServers> ?
[03:12] <DJServers> not me
[03:12] <tumlerlol12> its one of those i810
[03:12] <galathalion> i need some help with charset
[03:12] <socrano> Jucato: i downloaded kubuntu alternate cd from five different locations and i got different md5sums
[03:12] <DJServers> this is my first time jusing linux
[03:13] <tumlerlol12> followed tips on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto... but none of them work
[03:13] <socrano> Jucato: my friends experienced the same issue
[03:13] <socrano> Jucato: are we the only ones that know that the kubuntu alternate images are broken?
[03:13] <Jucato> socrano: did you download the .md5 file from the same mirror where you got the ISO and compared it with that?
[03:13] <tumlerlol12> im stuck on 640 x 480
[03:13] <Jucato> um.. so far you're the only one who has complained
[03:13] <tumlerlol12> please any1 help
[03:14] <Jucato> !xconfig | tumlerlol12
[03:14] <ubotu> tumlerlol12: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[03:14] <tumlerlol12> mmm... tried that
[03:14] <socrano> Jucato: heh, you very well know that the md5sums must not be different anyway (and yes, they are confirmed to be similar)
[03:14] <tumlerlol12> :(
[03:14] <galathalion> !charset
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about charset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <socrano> Jucato: a md5sum is not a mirror thing
[03:14] <galathalion> :<
[03:14] <DJServers> how to see the commands=
[03:15] <DJServers> ?
[03:15] <socrano> Jucato: no mirror ever customizes any copy of any file
[03:15] <Jucato> DJServers: what commands?
[03:15] <DJServers> what you typed like !xconfig or are there no more commands
[03:15] <Jucato> socrano: if you say so. you apparently know better then me so I'll just keep quiet
[03:15] <Jucato> !bot | DJServers
[03:15] <ubotu> DJServers: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:16] <K_user> tumlerlol12 : 640 x 480 - no other option?
[03:16] <VSpike> when a gnome app crashes, I find when I next login to KDE, I get a crash notification on the status tray area and I can then submit an apport bug report automatically... is there any way to do this without having to log out and in again?
[03:16] <socrano> Jucato: np, thanks for helping
[03:16] <galathalion> my chars are bad, do i need to configure it in apache or somethng?
[03:16] <DJServers> what is better? downloading the ISO for kubuntu or buying it ?
[03:17] <socrano> where do i find a good kubuntu alternate cd image (with the md5sum matching 5c19803a2a34996e68be96a279371b5d)? i downloaded kubuntu alternate cd from five different locations and i got different md5sums!
[03:17] <tumlerlol12> K_user: no.. before i had also 800 x 600 but i followed a tip on the ubuntu wiki and now there gone
[03:17] <Jucato> DJServers: depends on your situation. But Kubuntu is shipping the Desktop (Live) CD for free, but it might take some time to reach you
[03:18] <DJServers> okay just wanted to now for a frend of my i just got it in this morning now installing it while chatting here :P
[03:18] <tumlerlol12> K_user: it happens everytime when i install kubuntu because i810 is not properly supported or something
[03:18] <tumlerlol12> but usually by now i somehow fix it :/
[03:19] <socrano> where do i find a good "kubuntu alternate install cd" .iso (i.e. with the md5sum matching 5c19803a2a34996e68be96a279371b5d)? i downloaded it from five different mirrors and i got different md5sums!
[03:19] <galathalion> :<
[03:19] <DJServers> i think the kubuntu desktop looks realy nice you now
[03:19] <K_user> tumlerlol12 : hmm have u tried login out (reset xserver) then log in
[03:19] <galathalion> can someone help me pls?
[03:19] <DJServers> with what=
[03:20] <galathalion> my characters are screwed..
[03:20] <pag> DJServers, it does :) But to be completly honest; I don't like the default colours
[03:20] <DJServers> okay lol
[03:20] <tumlerlol12> K_user: i have rebooted about 5 times now :(
[03:20] <tumlerlol12> still nothing
[03:21] <tumlerlol12> i ran the config before and unchecked all resolutions except 1024 x 768 and it still pops up only 640 x 4..
[03:21] <DJServers> kubuntu is installing now it is on 83%
[03:21] <K_user> tumlerlol12 : so at login it's 640 ?
[03:21] <LjL> socrano: what about http://releases.ubuntu.com/ ?
[03:22] <tumlerlol12> K_user: yeah
[03:22] <LjL> besides, i doubt it's the mirrors' fault... but anyway
[03:22] <DJServers> can linux run games like GTA:SA?
[03:23] <socrano> LjL: even http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/ (which i considered most official and probably the source server) has a broken copy (it doesn't match any of its own advertized md5sums)!
[03:23] <LjL> socrano: are you use it's broken rather than your download being broken? does the size match? what did you use for downloading?
[03:24] <galathalion> anyone?
[03:24] <socrano> LjL: rsync.
[03:24] <AFaith> hello people :)
[03:24] <BluesKaj> galathalion, just ask your question, if someone can help , he/she will.
[03:24] <AFaith> have a question in mind for ages
[03:24] <DJServers> what games can be run on kubuntu? someone nows?
[03:24] <AFaith> whats the most useful backup software for linux ?
[03:24] <AFaith> i want to backup my server and i don't know what to use
[03:24] <LjL> !backup
[03:24] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[03:25] <DJServers> !cloning
[03:25] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[03:25] <AFaith> i've tried Acronis True Image (the sollution i've used for windows)
[03:25] <gagfish> how come
[03:25] <AFaith> but ... nothing
[03:25] <gagfish> i ask for help before, but got no reply
[03:25] <AFaith> thank LjL, but i'm wondering what do you all use
[03:25] <gagfish> then decide attack problem without any knowhow
[03:25] <galathalion> since i started apache my chars are screwed and i cant fix it.. anyone help me pls?
[03:26] <LjL> i cross my fingers, close my eyes and pretend HDs never fail
[03:26] <gagfish> and end up fix problem with no linux knowledge
[03:26] <BluesKaj> galathalion, do you mean fonts ?
[03:26] <pag> gagfish, congratulations :)
[03:26] <DJServers> ll
[03:26] <gagfish> D:
[03:26] <gagfish> now i get reply T_T
[03:26] <galathalion> BluesKaj: encoding
[03:27] <AFaith> hello BluesKaj, remember me :)) ?
[03:27] <LjL> socrano: my connection is being a bit too slow to check right now... what about using torrent anyway? if any part gets downloaded corrupted, a torrent should find out and reget it before it finished
[03:27] <gagfish> night night pag, thanks for answer in end
[03:27] <BluesKaj> Hi AFaith , yes of course , how are you ?
[03:27] <DJServers> o my kubuntu is on 86%
[03:28] <AFaith> fine thanks .. i'm asking a little help with my dapper kubuntu :P i wanna back it up :P and try the mighty feisty
[03:28] <socrano> LjL: right, i will try that too
[03:28] <BluesKaj> galathalion, enciding what ?
[03:28] <DJServers> !games
[03:28] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:28] <galathalion> BluesKaj: my letters are not functioning in irssi!
[03:28] <DJServers> lol
[03:28] <DJServers> wrong keybord config?
[03:28] <epimeth> and good afternoon my good people
[03:29] <DJServers> hi
[03:29] <epimeth> really quick... how do I write to /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness ? echo 'level' | tee brightness or something, right?
[03:29] <AFaith> hello epimeth!
[03:29] <BluesKaj> AFaith, the "Keep Backup System"  is an option in the kde pkg i believe
[03:29] <DJServers> woow my kubuntu install is now at 90% i am so exsided :P
[03:30] <epimeth> yea... got it :-)
[03:30] <epimeth> it was sudo tee brightness :-)
[03:30] <epimeth> ahoy AFaith!
[03:30] <epimeth> excited, DJServers ;-)
[03:30] <AFaith> BluesKaj: i don't really trust GUI sollutions, because i can't use them when i'm remote controlling my server via SSH
[03:30] <AFaith> and if xserver fails...
[03:30] <hs> hi, I run a server but kubunto need to create a folder in /var/run/ and then i created, but when i reboot the folder is gone, what I can do to avoid the delet of that folder by linux?
[03:31] <DJServers> yeah srry i am form holland dont speak english to good :P
[03:31] <BluesKaj> aha, AFaith ...that's kinda beyond my scope then, :(
[03:31] <manfred> hiya room..anyone in for some help with wlan?
[03:31] <epimeth> DJServers: its okay, we'll help you anyway.  unless you're from Rotterdam... we don't like people from rotterdam
[03:32] <AFaith> i think i might use "dd" util to back-it-up
[03:32] <DJServers> lol no i am from a very litte vilage (or something ;P)
[03:33] <BluesKaj> no discrimination here ... just some humour there,DJServers :)
[03:33] <DJServers> epimeth wat is so bad about people from rotterdam?
[03:33] <pag> DJServers, if you're intrested: there's also #ubuntu-nl (and probably #kubuntu-nl too)
[03:34] <DJServers> o okay
[03:34] <DJServers> i have a look sometime
[03:34] <phal_> *fixres
[03:34] <epimeth> in that case, no worries :-)... and it's village
[03:34] <phal_> !xconfig
[03:34] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[03:34] <epimeth> oh, nothing... it was just a joke
[03:34] <epimeth> :-p
[03:34] <manfred> !wlanconfig
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlanconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <manfred> :P
[03:34] <manfred> damn..lol
[03:35] <epimeth> manfred: whats the problem?
[03:35] <AFaith> !wireless
[03:35] <epimeth> and it's:
[03:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:35] <epimeth> !wireless
[03:35] <DJServers> but what dus it mean when i look to a program on the taskbeam there stand on desktop 1 or 2 what does it means?
[03:35] <epimeth> arg... beat me to it!
[03:35] <AFaith> epimeth: i'm faster :))
[03:35] <manfred> ok..ill check that url first before i ask some stupid question
[03:35] <epimeth> no, I just asked him whats the problem before telling him to RTFM... meanie!
[03:35] <epimeth> manfred: there are no stupid questions, only stupid people
[03:36] <phal_> does anyone know how to get CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE working? it won't restart X-Server
[03:36] <epimeth> phal_: try del instead of backspace
[03:36] <manfred> epimeth: i cant get my wlan to work automatically from start. i always have to start wlanassistant and click on my wlan to make it work
[03:36] <DJServers> install is on 94% :P
[03:36] <epimeth> manfred: edgy?
[03:36] <phal_> epimeth: it shows log out, shutdown, restart vs. screen
[03:37] <manfred> epimeth: dapper
[03:37] <pag> DJServers, in linux, there's multiple virtual desktops. So you can put irc-programm on one, music app on another and so on... You'll probably start to love them at some point ;)
[03:37] <epimeth> phal_: sorry buddy... I really don't know
[03:37] <phal_> ok thank you
[03:37] <DJServers> okay nice and with 2 screen can i put desktop 1 on screen 1 en desktop 2 on screen 2 or not?
[03:38] <epimeth> manfred: I had the same problem in dapper... dunno what to tell you.  on my desktop the *wired* connection doesn't connect till I dhclient or click on the "wired connection" in KNetworkManager... and that's in feisty!
[03:38] <phal_> and also how can i set the keyboard layout used in KDM? like Q and F etc.
[03:38] <manfred> i tried feisty before and had the same problem..but im installing that laptop for my dad and he wont ever manage to click anything besides the firefox icon :)
[03:38] <epimeth> phal_: but its probably a setting *somewhere*... google "ctrl alt del linux xorg" or something like that
[03:39] <phal_> ok i am searching for it
[03:39] <epimeth> manfred: what, no Kontact?  my grandmother knows both!
[03:39] <phal_>  and also how can i set the keyboard layout used in KDM? like Q and F etc.
[03:39] <epimeth> :-)
[03:39] <pag> DJServers, probably yes... I'm not sure though; I am using only one monitor
[03:39] <manfred> lol
[03:39] <DJServers> okay yeah just asking because i am thinking to juse 2
[03:39] <manfred> no..unfortunately not :) and i really dont wanna install windows 2000 again cause he crashes it within 2 weeks..
[03:40] <animimotus> back
[03:40] <epimeth> phal_: I wish I knew... my keyboard isn't properly set up... you might want to look into KeyTouch
[03:40] <DJServers> !keybord
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keybord - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <DJServers> lawl
[03:40] <phal_> ok ty
[03:41] <epimeth> DJServers: j is never "yuh" in english :-)  it's just "use"
[03:41] <BluesKaj> manfred, you should have alittle more faith in your dad ...I'm running edgy and I'm 63  :)\
[03:41] <animimotus> my parents how can't connect to their pc have in cat /var/log/auth.log "failed login on ttyl FOR machine authentification failure"
[03:41] <DJServers> only 6% and my kubuntu is installed!
[03:41] <animimotus> what can I do please?
[03:41] <manfred> blueskaj: and ur on IRC...my dad knows how to surf to porn pages, thats all...lol
[03:41] <DJServers> whahaha lol
[03:41] <animimotus> grep admin /etc/group <----- is OK
[03:41] <BluesKaj> he can learn , manfred :)
[03:41] <epimeth> BluesKaj: I didn't know you were a geezer!  congrats on the soon to be pension!
[03:42] <BluesKaj> soon to be? ...I've been on pension for 8yrs :)
[03:42] <epimeth> whoa... what country you from?
[03:43] <manfred> ok...well ill keep on trying...thx for the help epimeth :)
[03:43] <manfred> u guys have fun
[03:43] <animimotus>  /etc/sudoers is OK with these two lines : root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:43] <animimotus> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:43] <BluesKaj> Canada...company pension at 55 and govt pension at 60 (optional)
[03:43] <animimotus> must I add them to the sudoers to, explictilely?
[03:43] <epimeth> animimotus: sudoers have nothing to do with logging in
[03:43] <DJServers> is it posible to run GTA San Andreas on kubuntu=?
[03:44] <animimotus> epimeth: ok, so where must we search?
[03:44] <animimotus> (I don't have the pc on eyes, I speak on phone)
[03:44] <epimeth> animimotus: how are they trying to log in?
[03:44] <DJServers> 4% left
[03:45] <epimeth> DJServers: probably with cedega... I really don't know tho
[03:45] <animimotus> epimeth: after a distri-update they can't log no more on their computer
[03:45] <DJServers> hey i am running kubuntu on a pc whit a pentium 2  lol
[03:45] <DJServers> but it is realy fast
[03:45] <epimeth> animimotus: hrm... just them or anyone?
[03:45] <phal_> these fonts used in kubuntu are too smooth doesn't it annoy anyone?
[03:45] <animimotus> epimeth: they have a tty prompt which ask a login and a password
[03:45] <DJServers> 99%
[03:45] <epimeth> DJServers: I'm running it on a 300 megahertz... but no X :-)
[03:46] <epimeth> animimotus: nobody at all can log in?
[03:46] <animimotus> epimeth: they are alone on the computer, no more account
[03:46] <epimeth> animimotus: or just them?
[03:46] <DJServers> but i go now
[03:46] <DJServers> see ya all later!
[03:46] <BluesKaj> epimeth, irssi?
[03:46] <epimeth> DJServers: enjoy!
[03:46] <DJServers> bye
[03:46] <DJServers> yeah thx
[03:46] <DJServers> bye all
[03:46] <epimeth> BluesKaj: irssi?
[03:47] <epimeth> animimotus: repair mode works, tho, yes?
[03:47] <BluesKaj> yeah , terminal irc client
[03:47] <animimotus> epimeth: rescue mode ?
[03:47] <epimeth> BluesKaj: oh, no... thats at home... this baby is a dual core Centrino :-)
[03:47] <BluesKaj> runs from TTY prompt
[03:48] <animimotus> epimeth: I don't know, first I have test with the liveCD
[03:48] <BluesKaj> oh ok epimeth :)
[03:48] <phal_> these fonts used in kubuntu are too smooth doesn't it annoy anyone? my eyes ache after a while
[03:49] <Fahuadai> can anyone help me with ssh?
[03:49] <epimeth> BluesKaj: so what country are you from?  55 is kinda young for pension :-)
[03:49] <BluesKaj> phal, check out system settings / appearances / fonts
[03:49] <epimeth> animimotus: so you're using the livecd right now?
[03:49] <BluesKaj> Canada...company pension at 55 and govt pension at 60 (optional)
[03:50] <epimeth> BluesKaj: good stuff... maybe I should move to canadia...
[03:51] <epimeth> animimotus: what is the output of $cat /etc/passwd
[03:51] <epimeth> ?
[03:51] <Fahuadai> i'm successfully logged into my desktop from my laptop. (ssh -X 192.168....) and i've openned a new file with sudo kate. However when it comes with an error:  "Can not connect to klauncher
[03:52] <epimeth> brb people... this means you, animimotus! :-)
[03:52] <mahdi_> is there a program for converting a source package into a deb?
[03:52] <BluesKaj> are you in Israel , epimeth ?
[03:52] <animimotus> epimeth: a grep on the result perhaps ?
[03:52] <Fahuadai> mahdi: i think it's called alien
[03:52] <Fahuadai> !alien
[03:52] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:53] <DJServers> yo i am back
[03:53] <Fahuadai> hmmm maybe not...
[03:53] <DJServers> kubuntu i sucsesfuly installed
[03:54] <jermain> >< i need help
[03:54] <BluesKaj> cool, DJServers
[03:54] <jermain> :)
[03:54] <jermain> my desktop is set to 800x600
[03:54] <jermain> on a 17" screen
[03:54] <DJServers> now lets find out what this bay can do :P lol
[03:54] <jermain> butno larger resolution is available
[03:54] <DJServers> brb
[03:54] <Fahuadai> jermain got right drivers installed?
[03:55] <jermain> well it was fine for for ages
[03:55] <mahdi_> jermain: if you reconfigure your xserver-xorg you can select more available resolutions. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:55] <jermain> it all went perfect since the 1st installation
[03:55] <BluesKaj> jermain, system settings/monitor & display/admin mode/ ...set the resolution slider to what you'd like , click apply
[03:55] <jermain> cool thanks
[03:56] <jermain> BluesKaj, it doesnt go higher than 800x600
[03:56] <Fahuadai> anyone help with my ssh klauncher problem?  looking up on the terminal it compains X11 conenction rejected because of bad authentication
[03:56] <mahdi_> have to set it up in xorg before it will register anywhere else
[03:56] <BluesKaj> jermain, you can choose your monitor model etc as well , then your options will be greater
[03:57] <banjooie> hm
[03:57] <pag> Fahuadai, I think you should connect with ssh -x  to be able to use graphical apps
[03:57] <banjooie> Anyone know anything about tinyfugue?
[03:57] <BluesKaj> you must be in admin mode , jermain
[03:57] <banjooie> specifically, why pressing page up is not using the macro I set
[03:57] <banjooie> And instead giving me [[5~?
[03:58] <jermain> -.-
[03:58] <jermain> how do i find out what video card i have?
[03:58] <Fahuadai> ssh -X 192.168...
[03:58] <jermain> BluesKaj, i was in admin mode when i did it
[03:58] <Fahuadai> the lowercase x doesn't work: "Failed to connect to X"
[03:58] <epimeth> BluesKaj: yes, israel
[03:59] <epimeth> animimotus: just pastebin the whole thing...
[03:59] <jermain> BluesKaj, only gave 800x600 or 600x480
[03:59] <epimeth> !pastebin | BluesKaj
[03:59] <ubotu> BluesKaj: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:59] <AFaith> i have a question about this wiki article
[03:59] <AFaith> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
[03:59] <AFaith> if i do all the things mentioned there
[03:59] <AFaith> it will also backup the grubconfig ?
[03:59] <AFaith> so if feisty fails to do what i want
[04:00] <AFaith> and i wanna use again dapper
[04:00] <AFaith> when i will restore the backup
[04:00] <AFaith> i won't have the a nasty surprize with grub and make my system unbootable ?
[04:01] <BluesKaj> jermaim , have you tried to configure your monitor make and model and your graphics card as well ?
[04:01] <BluesKaj> err jermain
[04:01] <AFaith> BluesKaj: any ideas ?
[04:02] <jermain> @blueskaj: trying to, but i cant get in admin mode, even though i claosed konsole ><
[04:02] <epimeth> AFaith: grub is written to the mbr, so it won't be backed up... I'm sure you can read somewhere about grub and how to set it up so it will work.  what I believe it might do is load data from /boot in which case, yes... everything will be backed up :-)
[04:02] <beata> I'm trying to figure out how to change the size of my small icons and my system tray icons; there's no settings panel for either.
[04:02] <epimeth> animimotus: you still with me?
[04:03] <dcorbin_work> Any idea what package would contain dos2unix and unix2dos?
[04:03] <phal_> !xrestart
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xrestart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <animimotus> epimeth: they can't paste me it
[04:03] <jermain> damnit im gonna restart and see if i can get in adminmode again..
[04:03] <banjooie> !tinyfugue
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tinyfugue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <AFaith> epimeth: let me see if i've understood what you've just told me
[04:03] <epimeth> animimotus: why can't they paste it to pastebin and tell you what the address is?
[04:03] <animimotus> epimeth: I don't understand why, the other group are important?
[04:04] <AFaith> your saying me that i have to copy the grub installation from mbr into /boot and then backup my /dev/hda1 (mounted as /) ?
[04:04] <epimeth> animimotus: the group doesn't matter at all... its the users that I'm wondering about.
[04:04] <AFaith> phal_: do you want to restart the xserver ?
[04:04] <pag> dcorbin_work, looks like it's in tofrodos  I'm not sure though
[04:05] <BluesKaj> jermain, you may have a broken pkg preventing you from restting X , in the terminal type : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:05] <epimeth> AFaith: no, I'm saying I'm not sure how grub works.  I *think* that it is loaded to the mbr, but takes its settings from /boot ... if this is true then you should be fine
[04:05] <dcorbin_work> pag: thanks.  I'll give it a try.
[04:05] <AFaith> ok epimeth, big thanks, i will google up more ...
[04:05] <phal_> yes Afaith
[04:05] <epimeth> AFaith: do a google search for "grub kubuntu settings"and see where it takes you :-)
[04:06] <AFaith> and about *dd* have you got any experience with it ?
[04:06] <phal_> im trying set a shortcut for the command "/etc/init.d/xdm restart"
[04:06] <epimeth> BluesKaj: you thinking of moving to the holy land?
[04:06] <AFaith> phal_: press ctrl+alt+backspace and it will restart ;))
[04:06] <phal_> that's the problem, it won't work :)
[04:06] <AFaith> :-? hmm
[04:06] <AFaith> why ?
[04:06] <phal_> i dont know
[04:07] <AFaith> you wanna remote restart it ? or restart it through a console login ?
[04:07] <euzxx> http://magegame.ru/?rf=53617264656c6b61
[04:07] <BluesKaj> epimeth, no ... i like it here , in the so called 'wilds of northern Ontario '
[04:07] <euzxx> http://magegame.ru/?rf=53617264656c6b61
[04:07] <phal_> i just want to restart it to get settings etc. applied
[04:07] <AFaith> or are you telling me that ctrl + alt + backspace it simply doesn't work for you ?
[04:07] <phal_> yes i does nothing
[04:07] <phal_> it*
[04:07] <AFaith> hmm, curios
[04:07] <jermain> @blueskaj its fine now
[04:07] <epimeth> phal_: and manually restarting X doesn't work, either?
[04:07] <AFaith> what desktop environment are you using ?
[04:07] <jermain> i guess something happened when i went out of hibernate o.O
[04:08] <phal_> epimeth: restarting from the KDM menu works
[04:08] <AFaith> phal_: another sollution is killing the procces
[04:08] <AFaith> pgrep xserver
[04:08] <BluesKaj> oh god, hibernate ...dangerous practice IMO
[04:08] <phal_> AFaith: it's KDE installed on ubuntu
[04:08] <AFaith> and then kill (the pgrep output)
[04:08] <phal_> /etc/init.d/xdm restart ?
[04:08] <ubuntu> hello
[04:08] <epimeth> phal_: so do it that way... I don't like ctrl alt backspace....
[04:09] <AFaith> phal_: it ctrl + alt + delete it really should work ;)
[04:09] <ubuntu> i have two 60gb hd on my laptop that i want to install kubuntu
[04:09] <jermain> @blueskaj: i noticed -.-
[04:09] <ubuntu> what could be the best partitioning scheme for me?
[04:09] <ubuntu> what is the difference between ext 2 and ext3?
[04:09] <jermain> whats the dif. between suspend and hibernate btw?
[04:09] <phal_> AFaith: it brings up the logout, shutdown screen
[04:09] <AFaith> ubuntu: how many RAM do you have installed in your computer ?
[04:09] <epimeth> BluesKaj: I'm with you on the hibernate thing... in fact, its quicker for me to restart than hibernate and unhibernate :-)
[04:09] <ubuntu> what is the difference between primary and logical partitions?
[04:10] <ubuntu> i have 2gigs ddr400 ram
[04:10] <phal_> also i have noticed that i don't have the xdm package installed in synaptic?
[04:10] <AFaith> phal_: maybe your shortcuts are messed up
[04:10] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu: ext3 keeps a jorunal of file changes, so it's much more robust. Go for ext3 unless you have very little RAM or disk space.
[04:10] <epimeth> ubuntu: you can have only 4 primary partitions
[04:10] <epimeth> whatever happened to ReiserFS?
[04:11] <phal_> i installed the kde and kde-guidance packages on a ubuntu 7.04 setup, could it cause these problems?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> well jermain, epimeth my experience with hibernate is not a good one ...if your power goes down for some reason , you could be out of luck trying to boot back in or worst caselose all your data
[04:11] <ubuntu> when i try to partition my drives it gives me option for primary and logical what is the difference between them apart from primary can have 4
[04:11] <wolferine> morning
[04:11] <ubuntu> ok its going to be ext3
[04:12] <epimeth> BluesKaj: didn't think about that... so true.  but like I said, I prefer shutting down anyway... hibernation takes too long
[04:12] <epimeth> wolferine: afternoon
[04:12] <ubuntu> can i mix primary and logical partion on one drive?
[04:12] <AFaith> ubuntu: in that case you should do a main root / partition, lets say about 10-15 GB and another one, mounted as /home for your needs (50-45GB). the other HDD should be mounted as  /home/<your_user_name>/secound_hdd and have as many partitions as you like
[04:12] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu: there's no difference, really. It's just a historical thing. You can mix them just fine.
[04:12] <wolferine> ubuntu one question at a time :)
[04:12] <wolferine> hehe
[04:13] <ubuntu> are these partitions going to be primary or logical?
[04:13] <ubuntu> :)
[04:13] <phal_> should i ask for help in #kubuntu or #ubuntu?
[04:13] <AFaith> ubuntu: try to read the articles on the wikipedia about ext2 ; ext3 ; primary partitions ; logical partitions
[04:13] <AFaith> ubuntu: in linux it really doesn't matter if you're using a primary or logical partition
[04:14] <ubuntu> ok now another question
[04:14] <AFaith> phal_: i belive your problem is that your keyboard shortcuts are messed up
[04:14] <epimeth> animimotus: you still here?
[04:14] <buz> uhm did php4 somehow get removed from feisty?
[04:14] <ubuntu> i have hardware raid on my laptop is it possible that i install kubuntu on to hardware raid 0?
[04:14] <AFaith> ubuntu: don't ask to ask a question, just ask it :)
[04:14] <AFaith> !raid | ubuntu
[04:14] <ubotu> ubuntu: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:15] <epimeth> AFaith: you know, I never get tired of telling people that :-)
[04:15] <AFaith> lol :))
[04:15] <phal_> i have been hitting space instead of backspace for two days :S it's working now thanks :D
[04:15] <BluesKaj> too many ubuntus in here :)
[04:15] <AFaith> though, anyone can really provide me some tellings about their experience with *dd* utility ?
[04:15] <phal_> i dont know how i done it lol
[04:16] <beata> Oh okay. I edited my config/kdeglobals and changed the size of the 'small icon' there and it changed the size of Konqueror's icons anyway.
[04:17] <AFaith> no one :( ? is this a really *dd* such a rare utility ? haven't you ever used it ?
[04:18] <beata> Still haven't gotten the system tray icons to resize.
[04:18] <BluesKaj> AFaith, heh, never heard of it
[04:18] <epimeth> AFaith: nope... never... in fact, reading the manpage doesn't help me to understand wtf it does
[04:18] <Jucato> beata: the system tray icon size is fixed. there's no setting to change that
[04:18] <beata> Arrgh.
[04:19] <AFaith> :))) lol :))))
[04:19] <beata> Jucato: those icons are flyspeck-size on my laptop.
[04:19] <Jucato> :/
[04:19] <BluesKaj> beata, unless you increase your scrn res, then the icons will appear smaller
[04:19] <beata> I can't change my screen res.
[04:19] <BluesKaj> or larger if you decrease
[04:19] <animimotus> epimeth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20974/
[04:19] <AFaith> BluesKaj & epimeth : read more here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem#head-535f2fd341e44e59596908dd6e7bc7666f0aecc1
[04:19] <beata> Laptop.
[04:20] <animimotus> epimeth: a hard fight with my parents, a pastebin is so "amazing" :op
[04:21] <epimeth> heh
[04:21] <BluesKaj> AFaith, thx for the tip, I'll look further , but i have some errands to run ...BBL
[04:21] <AFaith> ok BluesKaj
[04:22] <beata> Oh there were two apps that *tried* to change their system tray icon sizes: knetworkmanager and kpowersave.
[04:23] <epimeth> animimotus: and they are trying to log in using "parents", yes?
[04:24] <epimeth> AFaith: cool!  but really, if I back up it'll be dpkgs of what I have installed, any and all conf files in /etc and my /home
[04:25] <epimeth> AFaith: there really isn't any need to back up /var/log and the like...
[04:25] <pgquiles__> Riddell: ping
[04:25] <epimeth> !pong
[04:25] <ubotu> pong is an old atari game. It's fun!
[04:25] <AFaith> epimeth: i know, that are a lot of directories that i should not backup, but, thats not the point
[04:26] <AFaith> i'm asking for telling me any experience with this (if it really works)
[04:26] <animimotus> epimeth: yes
[04:26] <AFaith> or review it:)
[04:26] <epimeth> AFaith: ahh... well, no :-)
[04:26] <UFFFFFF> !help.
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <AFaith> thanks anyway
[04:27] <UFFFFFF> !kubuntu.
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <animimotus> epimeth: login: parents pawword: ******* like always
[04:27] <animimotus> * password
[04:27] <AFaith> epimeth: do you want to work with me on a tutorial about backing up your  linuxbox ?
[04:27] <animimotus> in tty
[04:27] <AFaith> especially about folders you don't have to include in your backup ?
[04:27] <epimeth> AFaith: I *really* don't have time... but you should post your experience
[04:28] <MedioLobo> **** Hello... :D is there any easy way to update kubuntu dapper to fawn with a manager like install-manage for gnome?
[04:28] <mo0osah> I just installed beryl, how do i put it in startup under kde
[04:29] <mahdi_> mo0osah: are your sessions set to remember your last login, or is it a manual save?
[04:30] <epimeth> animimotus: and what is the output of $sudo cat /etc/shadow | grep 'parents'
[04:30] <epimeth> ?
[04:30] <mo0osah> I don't think it remembers last login
[04:30] <mo0osah> It's a clean install
[04:30] <AFaith> epimeth: i will provide you a google document url to help me to create it
[04:30] <AFaith> now i'm going to serve my dinner
[04:30] <mo0osah> mahdi_ can you tell me how to remember last login
[04:30] <AFaith> see`ya
[04:30] <epimeth> adios!
[04:30] <mahdi_> mo0osah: go to system settings > advanced tab at the top > sessions
[04:30] <mahdi_> session manager, rather
[04:31] <mahdi_> then look for the 'on login' box
[04:31] <mahdi_> should allow you to restore previous, restore manually, or start empty
[04:34] <mo0osah> mahdi_ It is set to restore previous session... but for some reason it doesnt do it
[04:34] <bernier> Hi, How can I access a FAT32 drive from kubuntu?
[04:34] <mahdi_> mo0osah: i've found beryl doesn't like to start up with that for some reason, you could try running the programs you want and manually saving it
[04:35] <mo0osah> mahdi_ can't i just use the command beryl-manager to start it?
[04:36] <mo0osah> and put it in startup folder
[04:36] <mahdi_> mo0osah: go ahead a try it, i've only really used the session manager
[04:39] <epimeth> animimotus: ???
[04:40] <BlackBsd> does anyone know how can i change the sensitivity of my usb mouse in xorg.conf?
[04:40] <BlackBsd> i bearly move the mouse, and it moves the entire length of my desktop
[04:40] <BlackBsd> but the synaptic touchpad works well
[04:40] <Dashman> hola
[04:40] <Dashman> oops
[04:41] <Dashman> excuse me, is this an english only channel?
[04:41] <epimeth> Dashman: yes, but there are spanish ones, too
[04:41] <epimeth> !es | Dashman
[04:41] <ubotu> Dashman: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:42] <Dashman> ok, thank you very much
[04:42] <epimeth> de nada
[04:44] <Dashman> looks like spanish people don't like chatting about kubuntu at this hour
[04:45] <epimeth> Dashman: looks like your english is good enough to ask here :-)
[04:45] <Dashman> yeah, I thought so...
[04:46] <Dashman> can anyone help me with a conceptronic c54ri?
[04:46] <Dashman> or ru, or rg, not really sure
[04:46] <epimeth> I have no idea what that is... sorry...
[04:47] <Dashman> it's a wireless nic
[04:47] <Dashman> I've read about people having problems with the c54rc
[04:47] <Dashman> and found some tutorials
[04:48] <Dashman> but nothing about c54ri
[04:48] <epimeth> have you tried using ndiswrapper?
[04:48] <Dashman> sorry, I'm kinda newbie with linux, what's ndiswrapper?
[04:49] <Dashman> does it need internet connection to work?
[04:49] <epimeth> well, you need to get the package
[04:49] <epimeth> !ndiswrapper
[04:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:49] <epimeth> read the article, it should help you out
[04:50] <Dashman> ubuntu help will work with kubuntu as well?
[04:51] <animimotus> epimeth:
[04:51] <animimotus> $ sudo cat /etc/shadow | grep 'parents'
[04:51] <animimotus> parents:$1$5T2CmsW3$QHNVlqpRtnkz5r7WcSW3MY.:13502:0:99999:7:::
[04:51] <epimeth> for the most part, yes
[04:51] <animimotus> epimeth: hard by phone (for them...) :\
[04:51] <Dashman> I'll take a look
[04:51] <Dashman> thanks
[04:51] <epimeth> animimotus: and what are the last few entries in /var/log/auth.log ?
[04:52] <epimeth> animimotus: meanwhile I'm searching for how exactly the passwords are encrypted so that we can check if they are using the correct password :-)
[04:52] <animimotus> epimeth: I had modify it ^^
[04:53] <epimeth> animimotus: sorry?  modify what?
[04:54] <MedioLobo> alguien usa tele2 para navegar? no me soluciona las DNS porque la ip es 192.168.0.1:8063 (tipo de ip no valida para una dns)
[04:54] <LjL> !es
[04:54] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:55] <Tekhne> i'm trying to compile something under the new feisty release, and i'm getting this error from the linker: "/usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory" -- anyone know the fix?
[04:55] <MedioLobo> Ups, sorry! Now I type in english Does anyone has Tele2 services to surf? the DNS dosn't works because the ip I should give is 192.168.0.1:8063 and that's not a valid IP for the config
[04:58] <MedioLobo> pgquiles: Lo siento, como no estoy registrado no te puedo contestar por privado. :S
[04:58] <AFaith> is there anyone interested in writing a tutorial about backing up your linux distribution in colaboration with me ?
[05:00] <maxtor> oO
[05:02] <phal_> >>>i was supposed to install kubuntu-desktop but i installed kde and kde-guidance packages on ubuntu, should i now install kubuntu-desktop?
[05:03] <Tekhne> hmm, looks like 7.04 doesn't install the libc6-dev package
[05:03] <lbawinowns> Hallo! I'm a ubuntu user, but Ive seriously thought of switching to the blue! What are the consequences and avantages? Is there any free of charge shipment liek with ubuntu? Is the there any newer version than 6.06 for kubuntu?
[05:04] <Alpha_Cluster> lbawinowns: its free like ubuntu and there is a 7.04 version
[05:04] <Alpha_Cluster> the major difference is that is uses the KDE desktop environment instead of the Gnome Desktop environment
[05:04] <lbawinowns> Alpha_Cluster , does it also get shipped?
[05:05] <Jucato> lbawinowns: Ubuntu and Kubuntu have the same offers (shipit) and same releases/versions
[05:05] <Alpha_Cluster> yes
[05:05] <Alpha_Cluster> but i dont think you can ship later then 6.06 for eather
[05:05] <Fahuadai> kubuntu = ubuntu except uses kde instead of gnome as default
[05:05] <lbawinowns> Awesome :), Can you order both at the same time?, I thought my Dapper drake Ubuntun is outdated
[05:05] <lbawinowns> Alpha: oh ok,
[05:05] <Fahuadai> you can download them.
[05:06] <Fahuadai> !download
[05:06] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[05:06] <Fahuadai> i got 1MBps from the torrent
[05:06] <Alpha_Cluster> lol i get that from the us servers
[05:06] <Alpha_Cluster> but then im on a .edu
[05:07] <Fahuadai> you can get them shipped, by the main reason i prefer to download is the time.
[05:08] <Fahuadai> download took less than 20mins. install 10. was playing in 30 mins, whereas shipping might take days...
[05:08] <Alpha_Cluster> yeah deffinity faster
[05:09] <BluesKaj> yeah, even with a regular hispeed (so called) ISP , I manged to be up and running in Edgy last Oct in less than 3hrs
[05:11] <BluesKaj> feisty doesn't work very well for my ATI hardware ...was ignorant of ATI 's poor linux support when i bought this pc 18mos ago
[05:11] <AFaith> i've asked you something! doest anyone of you wanna help me with a tutorial ?
[05:11] <khornel> Hi :)
[05:12] <AFaith> BluesKaj: what ?
[05:12] <lbawinowns> AFaith, I would love to help you, to bad I've never used Kubuntu :(, and the word kernel scares me
[05:12] <BluesKaj> that page you found AFaith, seems like a tutorial to me
[05:13] <AFaith> lbawinowns: i just want to write a tutorial about what folders to exclude from your backup
[05:13] <AFaith> BluesKaj: i know, they will be the base of that tutorial :)
[05:13] <Alpha_Cluster> BluesKaj: about ATI support did you hear AMD is guna open their drivers?
[05:14] <AFaith> Alpha_Cluster: for real o.0 ? can you provide us a link ?
[05:14] <BluesKaj> Alpha_Cluster, yes , I heard rumours , but I haven't seen anything official about it.
[05:14] <Alpha_Cluster> no it was announced at i think the Red Hat confrence
[05:15] <eminem> zxczxczxcxzc
[05:15] <AFaith> is there a link on the internet where we can read about ATI open drivers ?
[05:15] <Alpha_Cluster> http://enterpriselinuxlog.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/05/09/amd-will-deliver-open-graphics-drivers/
[05:15] <epimeth> lbawinowns: kernel! kernel! kernel!
[05:15] <BluesKaj> redhat? oooh , that sounds proprietary to me
[05:15] <epimeth> bwahahaha
[05:15] <AFaith> good enogh for me Alpha_Cluster!
[05:15] <AFaith> thanks
[05:15] <Alpha_Cluster> BluesKaj: so the new GPLed Liberation fonts are proprietary?
[05:15] <epimeth> BluesKaj: wb ^.^
[05:16] <Alpha_Cluster> eww
[05:16] <Alpha_Cluster> he ran to THAT
[05:16] <epimeth> lbawinowns: you know, vista has a kernel, too....
[05:16] <Alpha_Cluster> yeah a really bad one
[05:17] <lbawinowns> I actually install vista now, it's back of me now
[05:17] <epimeth> c:/windows/system32/kernel32.dll
[05:17] <lbawinowns> Yea, the install totally screwed up a couple of times so far, I agree it sucks and I can't believe my family wants that :p
[05:17] <epimeth> you can recompile it if you want...
[05:18] <Alpha_Cluster> lbawinowns: install ubuntu and call it vista
[05:18] <Alpha_Cluster> see if they notice
[05:18] <BluesKaj> ok, I resd the article , if it's true then I'll put off buying an nVidia card for a bit ...hope they write some drivers for their tv tuner/capture cards too
[05:18] <BluesKaj> err read
[05:19] <banjooie> Alright.
[05:19] <Alpha_Cluster> BluesKaj: im just guna go the safest route and make sure my next comp has an integrated intel carcd
[05:19] <banjooie> My sound is not working. Amarok will play mp3s, I have that in.
[05:19] <banjooie> When I play them, the little whatchamacallit goes up and down, the visualizations work.
[05:19] <banjooie> The headphones work.
[05:20] <BluesKaj> Alpha_Cluster, intel has probs as well, be careful :)
[05:20] <banjooie> I'm pretty sure they're in the right part of the back of the computer
[05:20] <banjooie> The volume is maxed on everything.
[05:20] <banjooie> What do I check now?
[05:20] <firecrotch> banjooie: Pretty sure?
[05:20] <banjooie> Like, there are two possibilities.
[05:20] <banjooie> And I checked both.
[05:20] <Fahuadai> speakers on and up loud enough?
[05:20] <banjooie> as loud as is physically possible
[05:20] <eminem> why can't i send files properly in msn?????????
[05:20] <firecrotch> banjooie: Try the speakers on another computer/stereo
[05:21] <banjooie> I have.
[05:21] <Alpha_Cluster> BluesKaj: ive installed on people with intel cards much easier
[05:21] <banjooie> Mp3 player ftw
[05:21] <eminem> in kopete
[05:21] <eminem> need to do port forwarding?
[05:21] <eminem> yoh how do i send files faster in kopete? need to port forward which port? anyone?
[05:22] <firecrotch> banjooie: That's quite.... odd
[05:22] <BluesKaj> banjooie, turn the volume down on the mixer and go into the terminal and type alsamixer , the use the arrow keys and the letter 'm" to unmute the inputs and outputs
[05:22] <banjooie> okay, I'll try that
[05:23] <banjooie> so anything that reads 'mm' should read 'oo' right
[05:23] <Fahuadai> yes
[05:24] <BluesKaj> why for the life of me would ubuntu see fit to to have allt he inputs and outputs in alsa muted as default is beyond me
[05:24] <frojnd> I have problem with usb. I put it out but in konqueror is still icon USB disk. I put usb back and pop up window asked me if I wanna to open it in a new window. I said yes. But when I tryed to copy contend of USB disk I wasn't able to. It says: filename for clipboard conetent. Please help
[05:24] <BluesKaj> banjooie, as a rule yes
[05:24] <banjooie> Okay.
[05:24] <banjooie> I have done this, there is still no sound.
[05:24] <eminem> yoh how do i send files faster in kopete? need to port forward which port? anyone?
[05:25] <Fahuadai> erminem: you shouldn'thave to do port forwarding normally. it might depend on your router though
[05:25] <linenoise> eminem is a sucka mc
[05:25] <linenoise> just sayin
[05:26] <gdiebel> Alpha_Cluster: "GPLed Liberation fonts are proprietary" seems you don't understand the GPL
[05:26] <banjooie> Any....unobvious packages I should have installed?
[05:27] <Alpha_Cluster> gdiebel: no i was talking about the comment about everything red hat does being proprietary
[05:27] <Fahuadai> banjooie: you using motherboard on board sound or a sound card?
[05:27] <banjooie> Sound card.
[05:27] <Fahuadai> you may need the drivers.
[05:27] <BluesKaj> Fahuadai, his headphones work
[05:27] <Fahuadai> try searching forums/apt for the manufacturer's name
[05:28] <Fahuadai> they do?
[05:28] <Fahuadai> if your headphones work, but not the speakers, that'd suggest the speakers are FUBAR.
[05:29] <banjooie> ...
[05:29] <banjooie> fuck
[05:29] <banjooie> er
[05:29] <banjooie> sorry
[05:29] <Alpha_Cluster> ...
[05:29] <banjooie> stupidest thing /ever/
[05:29] <banjooie> AGAIN
[05:29] <Alpha_Cluster> ?
[05:29] <banjooie> incidentally, tell people to check the analog/digital switch in kmixer
[05:29] <BluesKaj> banjooie, try hooking up your speaker sytem to the headphone output
[05:29] <banjooie> That's what it was.
[05:29] <banjooie> The analog/digital switch. I turned it off, and wham, sound.
[05:30] <Fahuadai> hehehe. glad it's fixed.
[05:30] <BluesKaj> right, you found it
[05:30] <venik> can anyone help with Kile?
[05:31] <venik> it seems unable to find Latex packages that are installed
[05:31] <BluesKaj> thay also turns on your digital pcm spdif output if you have one , then you can run a coax to the digital input of a home theater receiver
[05:31] <banjooie> ....I see
[05:33] <BluesKaj> my pc dvdrom has much better sound playing cds than my elcheapo dvdplayer in the tv room :)
[05:33] <venik> How do I tell Konversation NOT to notify me of people joining and leaving the channel?
[05:33] <banjooie> ....
[05:34] <BluesKaj> banjooie, rather than buy an expensive dvdp , I use the pc :)
[05:34] <banjooie> well, this is awkward. Amarok has decided on one particular random picture for all of my covers
[05:34] <banjooie> ...this is not a picture I want on all of my covers.
[05:34] <BluesKaj> or cd player , rather
[05:34] <epimeth> venik: Settings->Configure Notifications
[05:36] <venik> That is what I tried first, but I see nothing about that
[05:36] <venik> it is mostly to notify me of other events, not joins
[05:36] <BluesKaj> venik, settings/configure Konverstion/tabs/notifications
[05:42] <venik> The relevant notifications are OFF, but they still clutter my channel window
[05:42] <BluesKaj> you have to restart
[05:42] <marko> wich antivirus i need for linux
[05:42] <venik> in fact, most of the stuff in the channel window is notifications about people leaving or joining the channel
[05:43] <gdiebel> banjooie: I have had that happen as well. sometimes amarok will just find an image file in the directory and use it
[05:43] <alex> hi
[05:43] <banjooie> yes but how do I /fix/t his
[05:43] <banjooie> THIS IS NOT A WORKSAFE IMAGE
[05:44] <epimeth> lemme see!
[05:44] <epimeth> lemme see!
[05:44] <epimeth> link link link!!!!
[05:44] <banjooie> ....
[05:44] <epimeth> and I'm at work, too :-)
[05:44] <banjooie> ........
[05:44] <epimeth> marko: you don't need an intivirus for linux
[05:44] <marko> :))
[05:44] <banjooie> You don't need one, honestly.
[05:44] <marko> i know
[05:45] <marko> i just want to see your reaction
[05:45] <epimeth> maaaan... *my* amarok doesn't load not-worksafe images :-(
[05:45] <alex> i have a question: i installed ubuntu-desktop to try gnome. now how can i remove it and all his dep?
[05:45] <epimeth> alex... couldn't you have just tried the livecd? :-)
[05:45] <epimeth> it should just be ubuntu-desktop
[05:46] <marko> search on google for 'pure kde'
[05:46] <alex> thx
[05:46] <alex> because in 6.10 was enough to give a sudo apt-get autoremove after removing ubuntu-desktop
[05:46] <marko> first remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:46] <epimeth> any way I can get jokosher working without any gnome stuff? :-)
[05:46] <marko> yes
[05:46] <BluesKaj> alex . you can keep gnome and install kde or kubuntu desktop and run both if you wish
[05:46] <alex> but this time it didn't worg
[05:46] <BluesKaj> !desktop
[05:46] <ubotu> A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[05:47] <marko> and then remove other things that are left of
[05:47] <BluesKaj> alex, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:48] <banjooie> !xfce
[05:48] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[05:48] <BluesKaj> alex, or sudo apt-get install kde
[05:48] <banjooie> !fluxbox
[05:48] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[05:48] <BluesKaj> or both
[05:48] <alex> ok i found what i needed at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[05:49] <marko> yes
[05:49] <marko> but you will delete also firefox and ..
[05:49] <chx> I am trying to install from an usbstick and I have the install files mounted on /mnt . How can I tell the alternative text installer not to try to load a CD-ROM, there are your files?
[05:49] <alex> i will reinstall it, now i just want to remove all those gnome programs
[05:50] <alex> sometimes it try gnome, but them i'm always back to K :P
[05:50] <ads_> im trying to run a bash script ive written but when i execute it it says unable to execute ./startproxy.sh (my script) :not a directory
[05:51] <banjooie> ...So tell me about this fluxbox thing
[05:51] <banjooie> it looks awesome
[05:52] <chx> I am trying to install from an usbstick and I have the install files mounted on /mnt . How can I tell the alternative text installer not to try to load a CD-ROM, there are your files?
[05:53] <BluesKaj> banjooie, it's meant for older slower pcs. I used it on suse about 2 yrs ago , on an old 233mhz MMX pcc ..worked ok
[05:53] <hansi__> hello, does anyone know if it is possible to use /dev/video0 from a remote pc using sshfs?
[05:54] <alex> thank you all for help:) i'm shutting X off to apply changes
[05:54] <alex> cya
[05:54] <banjooie> Well, I suppose I could try Enlightenment again.
[05:54] <banjooie> I liked that one a lot last time.
[05:55] <DJServers> hi all
[05:55] <DJServers> !ircserver
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ircserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <shinobi> evening. cell fones via usb?
[05:56] <DJServers> can somebody help me put up a IRC Server on my linux pc?
[05:56] <cartoon_nate> Hey guys.. quick question.. do you know if there is qq support on kopete?
[05:58] <jhutchins_lt> DJServers: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IRC/servers.html
[05:58] <n8k99> cartoon_nate: i don't see it in the accounts
[05:58] <chx> OK I am much further, but now it says the file needed for preconfiguration could not be retrieved from kubuntu.seed
[06:02] <cartoon_nate> yeah, I only know that pidgin has that.. but it's not a kde app
[06:02] <cartoon_nate> well... it's gtk based.. so not as smoothly integrated into the ui
[06:02] <mkeller> Hello all, I just installed Kubuntu, and it works great!  Except my soundcard isn't working . . .  I have a SoundBlaster 32 Bit card, which works great in both Debian, Ark Linux, and Windows XP.  What should I do?
[06:02] <n8k99> !sound
[06:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:05] <mkeller> Okay, the sound system was enabled.  I'm going to try reading that web page that you recommended...
[06:05] <banjooie> Wait.
[06:05] <banjooie> Mkeller.
[06:05] <banjooie> Go into KMixer.
[06:05] <mkeller> Yes?
[06:06] <banjooie> Click 'Switches'.
[06:06] <mkeller> OK.
[06:06] <banjooie> Is there an 'audigy analog/digital' switch?
[06:06] <venik> any Kile- Latex users here?
[06:06] <banjooie> Click that, then try to play sound.
[06:07] <marko> how can i disable the poping icons
[06:07] <marko> when i click them
[06:07] <void242> I don't know how exactly have I made it but I have wireless connection now
[06:07] <void242> thank you guys
[06:10] <DJServers> can someone help me plz
[06:10] <arkanabar> ok, so kdesu seems broken.  Can I safely use gksu instead?
[06:10] <DJServers> i have donwloaded IRCD-Hybrid but to install it= i dont now how to install something on linux??
[06:11] <marko> DJServers dont ask
[06:11] <DJServers> why not?
[06:11] <marko> just tell
[06:11] <DJServers> what you mean
[06:11] <linenoise> if only the Army had that policy hahaha
 can someone help me plz dont ask can i ask
[06:11] <marko> only ask >)
[06:11] <marko> :)
[06:11] <arkanabar> djservers, most versions of ubuntu have installation tools in the main menu
[06:11] <banjooie> kdesudesudesudesu?
[06:12] <mkeller> Well, banjooie, there's a SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack.  It was already on, and turning it off didn't help any.
[06:12] <linenoise> DJServers: if you are using ubuntu type apt-get install dancer-ircd
[06:12] <banjooie> yeah, that's the switch I'm talking about--Sometimes that helps. Alright, now try the troubleshooting.
[06:12] <banjooie> Heck, it's what's screwed me over...every time I reinstall the OS.
[06:12] <DJServers> linenoise where to typ that
[06:12] <linenoise> DJServers: seriously?
[06:12] <marko> in konsole
[06:12] <linenoise> sorry
[06:12] <linenoise> :)
[06:12] <DJServers> i just got ubuntu dont realy now how to use it ;P
[06:12] <marko> menu>sistem>konsole
[06:12] <linenoise> yes, in a console.... I think alt-f2 will get you there if you're in a window manager
[06:13] <mallize> put sudo before it though :)
[06:13] <arkanabar> aye, sudo apt-get install dancer-ircd
[06:13] <arkanabar> sudo is what gives the command root authority
[06:14] <linenoise> I don't know why, I just assumed he was running as root... ;)
[06:14] <marko> alt+f2 click options and select run in a terminal window , write sudo apt-get install dancer-ircd
[06:14] <marko> if you dont have sudo pass
[06:14] <marko> do sudo passwd
[06:14] <linenoise> if you don't have sudo pass, sudo passwd won't help
[06:15] <linenoise> sudo requires your password anyway.  if you don't have root pw, you might be f'd
[06:15] <user__> hello
[06:20] <epimeth> sudo password is *your* password
[06:20] <epimeth> the one you chose
[06:21] <DJServers> when i typed it in console it says can not be found what sould i do now
[06:21] <DJServers> is dancer.ircd a file or something
[06:23] <epimeth> DJServers: apt-get is the program that you install/uninstall/update/upgrade things with
[06:23] <epimeth> do seomthing for me... sudo echo 'test'
[06:23] <epimeth> what happens?
[06:24] <DJServers> there just stands test under it
[06:25] <epimeth> okay
[06:25] <epimeth> so now do sudo apt-get update
[06:26] <DJServers> done
[06:26] <epimeth> sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:27] <DJServers> done
[06:27] <DJServers> and what now
[06:28] <epimeth> did it give you any messages about left back packages?
[06:28] <epimeth> erm, held back
[06:28] <_4strO> DJServers: you wanna connect the irc, is that right ?
[06:29] <DJServers> no i want to install IRCD
[06:29] <DJServers> hybrid
[06:29] <_4strO> if oyour are on kubuntu, just do it with konversation ;)
[06:29] <jthomas_> can anyone tell me why my /etc/resolv.conf file keeps changing to the wrong nameserver?  i think it is related to my VPN attempts, but now the VPN is closed and my /etc/resolv.conf file keeps getting changed anyway
[06:29] <DJServers> no i mean my own IRc Server installing
[06:29] <_4strO> ha ok
[06:30] <marko> jthomas_ install resolvconf
[06:30] <epimeth> jthomas_: /etc/resolv.conf gets its nameservers from your dhcp server
[06:30] <DJServers> epimeth what is a good link to donwload IRCD you now?
[06:30] <LjL> jthomas_: on Edgy, i "solved" that problem by removing the "resolvconf" package. i suppose that might not be the recommended route however.
[06:30] <DJServers> !ircd
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ircd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <LjL> !info ircd
[06:30] <ubotu> Package ircd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:30] <LjL> !find ircd
[06:30] <epimeth> DJServers: I don't know anything about irc servers... sorry
[06:30] <DJServers> okay
[06:31] <flake> why do some games leave me in a lower resolution when exiting?
[06:31] <ubotu> Found: dancer-ircd, dancer-ircd-doc, ircd-hybrid, ircd-irc2, ircd-ircu (and 3 others)
[06:31] <_4strO> apt-cache search ircd
[06:31] <_4strO> nice one LjL ;)
[06:31] <_4strO> didn't know !find
[06:31] <flake> like wolf-et for example
[06:32] <DJServers> yo now i have typed in console: sudo apt-get install ircd-hybrid and it works
[06:32] <_4strO> yep :)
[06:32] <jthomas_> LjL and Marko you give me opposite answers :(
[06:32] <marko> well
[06:32] <_4strO> you have just to configure it
[06:32] <marko> on adsl
[06:32] <marko> you need
[06:32] <DJServers> now it says this:  Starting Hybrid 7 IRC Server
[06:33] <marko> resolvf conf for pppoe
[06:33] <LjL> jthomas_: well, if you have it installed, uninstall it, if you don't, install it :P
[06:33] <epimeth> DJServers: well congrats, you have an irc server up and running :-)
[06:33] <marko> yes
[06:33] <jthomas_> epimeth: yes it should but i get my IP from 10.10.13.1 and it is changing to 192.168.35.1 which is the DHCP server on my VPN connection from this morning
[06:33] <DJServers> okay lol but how doe i now what my server adress is or is that just my IP
[06:33] <epimeth> DJServers: your ip address
[06:34] <DJServers> okay cool thx all for the help
[06:34] <DJServers> but i may open poort 6667 or not?
[06:34] <epimeth> jthomas_: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:35] <_4strO> D
[06:35] <_4strO> DJServers: you probably have a config file in /etc/
[06:35] <_4strO> or a hidden file in your home dir
[06:36] <jthomas_> epimeth: i do that and it works but still changes back to the wrong nameservers
[06:36] <_Therock> so what is the easy's way to install codec for kubuntu or do i have to do the mplayer thing?
[06:36] <_4strO> !codec | _Therock
[06:36] <ubotu> _Therock: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:36] <_Therock> nice :)
[06:36] <_Therock> is there a !commands i can get
[06:36] <_Therock> everytime i need something ubotu has it :D
[06:36] <_4strO> yes
[06:37] <epimeth> jthomas_: hrm... and sudo dhclient ethX ?
[06:37] <jthomas_> epimeth: same...
[06:37] <epimeth> jthomas_: tell me about your net architecture
[06:38] <epimeth> erm, infrastructure
[06:39] <_Therock> thanks _4strO
[06:39] <jthomas_> well... i am generally 10.10.13.173 on this network; the gateway and dhcp server are 10.10.13.1 and nameserver is 10.10.10.120; i was trying to get Kvpnc working this morning but failing; when i used the network-manager-gnome it connected to the VPN successfully but now it won't stop changing the resolv.conf to match the VPN side (whcih i am no longer connected to)
[06:39] <_4strO> your welcome
[06:40] <Dashman> er... I've got a question
[06:40] <DJSer> Hy DJServers here agian
[06:41] <Dashman> why does kubuntu hang when connecting to internet?
[06:41] <epimeth> jthomas_: hmmm... have you tried killing the gnome netman?
[06:41] <Dashman> I mean, I've already connected
[06:41] <DJSer> i just tryed to connect to my server but the server disconnects me right away :P
[06:41] <Dashman> and opened google, kopete and all
[06:41] <jthomas_> epimeth:  not running
[06:42] <Dashman> or even just tried an apt-get
[06:42] <Dashman> then it hangs in the middle of downloading files
[06:42] <epimeth> jthomas_: just out of curiosity, does restarting fix it?
[06:42] <Dashman> or while loading a webpage
[06:42] <jthomas_> epimeth: not sure, i should try that ;) but i am working and want to get toher stuff done...
[06:42] <epimeth> jthomas_: cuz if so its definitely possible and definitely some setting that the VPN connection changed
[06:43] <devilsadvocate> Dashman - wireless / dialup / broadband
[06:43] <devilsadvocate> ?
[06:43] <epimeth> jthomas_: can't take 5 minutes off for a restart?
[06:43] <jthomas_> but /usr/sbin/pptpd is still running so let me try killing that
[06:43] <Dashman> wireless
[06:43] <epimeth> jthomas_: take a cigarette break while it restarts! :-)
[06:43] <jthomas_> epimeth: i've taken the whole morning trying to get this VPN working...
[06:43] <devilsadvocate> Dashman, signal strength?
[06:43] <jthomas_> epimeth: brilliant, i will... back in a few! ;)
[06:43] <epimeth> jthomas_: that could bery much be it... try killing that :-)
[06:43] <Dashman> huh... you mean the percentage?
[06:43] <devilsadvocate> yep
[06:44] <Dashman> on windows it said like 80% or so
[06:44] <_4strO> DJSer: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircd/h7setup.html
[06:44] <Dashman> on linux I don't know how to look at that
[06:44] <DJSer> i look there
[06:44] <devilsadvocate> hm
[06:45] <devilsadvocate> i'd say it has something to do with the wireless... perhaps bad drivers or something
[06:45] <Dashman> it gives me 6 stars in the wireless assistant anyway
[06:45] <Dashman> hum...
[06:45] <Dashman> most possible
[06:45] <ubuntu> .
[06:45] <Dashman> I've just managed to install something to make the wireless work
[06:46] <Dashman> but I'm not really sure which one worked
[06:46] <Dashman> I first tried with the ralink 2500 to no avail
[06:46] <Dashman> then I installed 2570 for nothing
[06:46] <Dashman> and finally rt61 did work
[06:47] <Dashman> (after resetting)
[06:47] <Dashman> I don't know if I should uninstall something
[06:47] <devilsadvocate> not sure Dashman, sorry
[06:47] <Dashman> or how to uninstall anything
[06:48] <Dashman> thanks anyway
[06:48] <flake> why do some games leave my desktop at it's resolution on exit of the game?
[06:48] <Dashman> I'll keep trying
[06:48] <flyingyellowpig> hi there
[06:48] <flyingyellowpig> does anyone knows how to install a .BIN file or program?
[06:48] <dr_willis> flake,  either the games are crashing, badly programmed.. or just.. well   thats about it.. :0
[06:49] <dr_willis> flyingyellowpig,  you 'run' it. chmod +x whatever.bin ./whateer.bin
[06:49] <flake> so really is a wolf - et problem ?
[06:49] <flyingyellowpig> it does't work
[06:49] <flake> windows seems to kick it back ok
[06:49] <dr_willis> flake,  could be a driver issue. Ive never seen RTCW:ET do tghat.
[06:49] <flyingyellowpig> i have tried
[06:49] <dr_willis> flake,  windows doing it.. dosent really prove anything. :)
[06:49] <flake> true
[06:50] <flyingyellowpig> it says file unknow
[06:50] <dr_willis> rtcw:et is als an 'older game'
[06:50] <dr_willis> flyingyellowpig,  perhaps tell us what you are ttrying to install.
[06:50] <dr_willis> flyingyellowpig,  its possible you got a bad download.
[06:50] <flyingyellowpig> i am trying to install realplay or helix player
[06:50] <dr_willis> !realplayer
[06:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:51] <dr_willis> hmm.. i wonder if they are in the severas repo. or that mediatunbu repo.
[06:51] <flyingyellowpig> no it is on the real.com or helix community site
[06:51] <dr_willis> flyingyellowpig,  and it MAY be in some of the alternative repositories.
[06:52] <flyingyellowpig> ok i will check
[06:52] <dr_willis> helix-player - the helix audio and video player
[06:52] <flyingyellowpig> have anyone tried Ubuntustudio?
[06:52] <dr_willis> so ita in one of them :) not sure what repos i got on this pc.
[06:52] <kane_> anybody know where the QT dev packages live?
[06:53] <jthomas> epimeth: not yet rebooted but killing the pptpd seems to have worked, so far... thank you for the help!
[06:54] <flyingyellowpig> I am thinking to install a 3rd Linux distro on my test pc,I was wondering if someone have tried Fedora Core or 7's
[06:54] <epimeth> jthomas: great
[06:54] <jthomas> epimeth: yes indeed, but it shouldn't happen!  well i got it fixed tho
[06:55] <mkeller> !Players
[06:55] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:55] <mkeller> !MP3
[06:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:55] <dr_willis> flyingyellowpig,  use vmware - makes it trivial to test out new disrtos :)
[06:56] <flyingyellowpig> which new distros?
[06:56] <flyingyellowpig> which do you reckon ?
[06:56] <flyingyellowpig> recommend i mean
[06:59] <hangthedj> kane_: libqt3-headers
[07:02] <kane_> hangthedj: thanks
[07:05] <frode_> anyone awailable to help a firsttimer install Firefox?
[07:06] <BluesKaj> frode_, check adept pkg manager
[07:06] <HymnToLife`> frode_, sudo apt-get install firefo
[07:06] <HymnToLife`> x*
[07:08] <frode_> ive downloaded Firefox from mozilla.com...but when i search in adept... it doesnt show anything.
[07:08] <_4strO> !firefox
[07:08] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[07:08] <Grem> hi
[07:08] <Hobbsee> frode_: use "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[07:08] <frode_> erm...lol..
[07:09] <Grem> I get this bug many times, in many versions of KDE. I open an app (like Adept) and it sits on the taskbar "starting adept" and never opens it.. I gotta open it a second time. I believe it only happens on apps that asks for root password
[07:09] <Grem> is this somekind of known KDE bug or something?
[07:10] <frode_> hobbsee, ive been using MS since the 80's,,,when you just say use Sudo apt-get install firefox...it would be as i would have told a MS noob to just make your own Autoexec.bat ;)
[07:10] <Hobbsee> frode_: ahh.  open a terminal, and type it
[07:10] <Hobbsee> sorry :(
[07:10] <Hobbsee> or you'll find it in adept
[07:11] <frode_> i have found adept..and now it sais install completed :=
[07:11] <frode_> dunno what i  did... fun
[07:11] <_4strO> friendly user
[07:11] <_4strO> but in fact, you have firefox now :)
[07:11] <frode_> yes..and thanx alot ppl ;)
[07:11] <sakabatou> i have it too Grem
[07:12] <rrichie> hi all
[07:12] <frode_> ive gotta say this is Way more fun than M$
[07:12] <rrichie> i have some problems to install kde4 alpha
[07:12] <Grem> you know anything about its cause sakabatou ?
[07:12] <rrichie> it says some packages can't be installed
[07:12] <rrichie> can anyone help me ?
[07:12] <sakabatou> Nothing man, i guess its from kde itself
[07:13] <Grem> yeah.. ok =)
[07:13] <rrichie> no it's from kubuntu packages
[07:13] <Grem> I can't decide between kubuntu and xubuntu heh
[07:13] <sakabatou> xubuntu is faster, kubuntu is more visual
[07:13] <rrichie> nobody can help me ?
[07:13] <Grem> not just that..
[07:14] <ScarFreewill> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/88072 you getting this too?
[07:14] <Grem> bluetooth, samba.. kubuntu wins in that
[07:14] <BluesKaj> frode , in the run dialog box type ' kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list ...there you willsee what looks URL addresses whicch are the kubuntu/ubuntu pkg repositories ,delete the # in front of any the lines begining with deb
[07:17] <Grem> anyway, installing kubuntu now
[07:17] <Grem> kde4 seems to be really nice =)
[07:20] <kane_>  does anyone happen to know what qt libs are required to start developing QT4 apps on kubuntu fiesty? seems like ive installed every QT4 lib i can find but i still cant use things like QApplication
[07:22] <blackdiamond_> I guys, I'm Fabio from Italy. Sorry if my english language is not really correct..I'm new from kUBUNTU. My question is what is the best free antivirus for Kubuntu and linux in general? what do you use?
[07:22] <dr_willis> you normally dont need an antivirus program for linux.
[07:22] <dr_willis> the ones that exist are designed to scan for windows viruses in windows files..
[07:23] <defcon_> lol
[07:23] <dr_willis> unless thers some new ones out - :)
[07:23] <defcon_> dr_willis,  its good to run rootkit finders and shit
[07:23] <dr_willis> so poof - liinux just saved your money.  :)
[07:23] <defcon_> and have a decent firewall
[07:23] <blackdiamond_> so you say that aren't a lot of linux virus?
[07:23] <dr_willis> defcon_,  of course if you got everything disabled and no one can get in anyway. :)
[07:23] <defcon_> what is a good firewall accept firestarter
[07:23] <dr_willis> blackdiamond_,  i cant name ONE...
[07:23] <defcon_> ya i got everything disabled too hehe
[07:24] <dr_willis> blackdiamond_,  now servive exploits and other hacks are not technicially viruses. :)
[07:24] <dr_willis> service
[07:24] <defcon_> i like having a firewall to filter shit so it looks like im not online
[07:24] <kane_> blackdiamond_: there are not any that have been successfull at spreading in the wild.
[07:24] <dr_willis> my silly laptop some how has the firewall enabled - and so enabled - i cant even web surf on it. or get online.
[07:24] <blackdiamond_> Ah ok..sorry for the stupid question..
[07:24] <True_Friend> i want to ask a question when i connect to gmail through thunderbird 2 it starts downloading messages (all marked as read) how can i stop it to do this thing?
[07:24] <dr_willis> gotta fix that someday
[07:24] <dr_willis> :)
[07:24] <cntb> \o
[07:24] <BluesKaj> linux doesn't run like windows in terms of executing files
[07:25] <hangthedj> does anybody know how to change the font size in tty?  i upgraded to feisty from edgy and now my font is huge.
[07:25] <kane_> no, its a common question for sure, and may sometime be needed but i doubt it really.
[07:25] <ranjan> hi i need help selecting an mp3/video player
[07:25] <kane_> ranjan: i would suggest amarok for mp3s.
[07:25] <cntb> anyone knows of keyboard recorder to save me keystrokes of repetitive work in firefox
[07:25] <dr_willis> hangthedj,  for the console? theres a command.. but i forget what it is..
[07:25] <ranjan> kane_: : no i mean hardware like ipod
[07:25] <hangthedj> for the console.
[07:25] <dr_willis> hangthedj,  setconsolefont consolefont, or somthing..
[07:25] <kane_> ah, i see.
[07:25] <insystel> hola
[07:26] <dr_willis> hangthedj,  cant get to a console to test at the moment. :)
[07:26] <kane_> does it have to play both?
[07:26] <defcon_> whats a decent ipchains firewall
[07:26] <ranjan> kane: i have narrowed down
[07:26] <defcon_> other than firestarter
[07:26] <semistud2354> i managed to get beryl working on my 200m, 64-bit laptop...but its a tiny bit glitchy...does anyone know how to smoothin things out
[07:26] <dr_willis> hangthedj,  its      consolechars --help
[07:26] <ranjan> kane_:  cowan a2 and wolverine eps
[07:26] <dr_willis> semistud2354,  im suprised it even works at a useable speed.
[07:27] <semistud2354> i was thinkin installing the dbg packages
[07:27] <rrichie> can someone tell me what repository i must have to install the package named libqt4-core-kdecopy ?
[07:27] <kane_> ah, sorry i have not any experince with those.  Ive pretty much only used sansas, ipods and some archos devices.
[07:27] <BluesKaj> semistud2354, consider yerself lucky so far :)
[07:27] <semistud2354> lol....im not luckey im the shit
[07:27] <semistud2354> lol
[07:27] <blackdiamond_> another question, is possible using the Konsole program or other terminals to send mail, like for example using telnet in windows?
[07:28] <ranjan> kane_:  thanks for your help
[07:28] <semistud2354> im just curous what are the dbg packages
[07:28] <blackdiamond_> I didn't find nothing about that
[07:28] <ranjan> anyone has used cowan a2 or wolverine esp
[07:28] <dr_willis> ive had issues with my laptop and its 200m video card and the fglrx drivers.
[07:28] <BluesKaj> semistud2354, if you say so ,... but iwouldn't call myself by such a name ...i must be getting old
[07:29] <dr_willis> blackdiamond_,  theres the mail command,, or the telnet command.
[07:29] <semistud2354> lol
[07:29] <semistud2354> what are the dbg packages...for beryl
[07:29] <semistud2354> dbg=debug?????????? right?????????
[07:30] <blackdiamond_> thanks willis..i will search for more..thank you very much bye from Milan and thank you guys
[07:33] <BluesKaj> must be some listed in synpatic, semistud2354
[07:34] <semistud2354> im using feisty, kubuntu
[07:34] <BluesKaj> since you prolly have the repos for beryl in your souces list
[07:35] <adaptr> sauces list ?
[07:36] <adaptr> like.. Bearnaise ?
[07:36] <semistud2354> sooo.........does dgb=debug????
[07:37] <Grem> is there any gui app that lets me join a wireless network with a specific index key other than 1?
[07:37] <adaptr> semistud2354 erm... huh ?
[07:37] <Grem> (i believe 1 is the default one)
[07:37] <adaptr> index key ?? or *channel* ?
[07:37] <semistud2354> like
[07:37] <Grem> hmm
[07:37] <Grem> index key
[07:37] <Grem> iwconfig eth1 key [4] 
[07:37] <semistud2354> it says beryl-core...then it says beryl-core-dbg
[07:37] <Grem> iwconfig eth1 key 12314124
[07:38] <semistud2354> whats beryl core dbg
[07:38] <Grem> that way I can connect
[07:38] <semistud2354> is that like a debug package
[07:38] <BluesKaj> adaptr, i appreciate humour but .... ok sources list...does that work for you? :)
[07:38] <adaptr> semistud2354 no, it doesn't - it may say somehting-dev, or devel, but those are development packages
[07:38] <adaptr> semistud2354 I'm not sure what you mean by :debug" packages
[07:39] <sercik> hi people!
[07:39] <semistud2354> ok i have beryl-core...whats beryl-core-dbg...it says "debug symbols for beryl"
[07:39] <semistud2354> does that mean
[07:40] <semistud2354> if i install that package that beryl will run smoother
[07:40] <semistud2354> like.....bugs in beryl will get debuged
[07:40] <semistud2354> lol
[07:40] <BluesKaj> run it and see what happens to the eye candy , semistud2354 ...it's only window dressing ,after all :)
[07:41] <semistud2354> lol...a bunch of professionals and all i get is....try it n see what happens....
[07:41] <semistud2354> lol
[07:42] <Random_Transit> hey, i'm having a small problem with firefox....the fonts in the menus and toolbars look all goofy...larger than the rest of my applications
[07:42] <BluesKaj> pofessionals ? where ?
[07:42] <semistud2354> arnt there professionals in here
[07:42] <sercik> how can i configure from kde startup services?
[07:42] <semistud2354> or just nerds like us descussing
[07:42] <semistud2354> lol
[07:43] <adaptr> semistud2354 no, I'm fairly confident there won't be many like you in here
[07:43] <Random_Transit> anyone have any idea why firefox would look all weird like that?
[07:43] <BluesKaj> semistud2354, maybe but not everyone...we're mostly just volunteers who don't have a life :)
[07:43] <Random_Transit> the rest of my GTK apps look fine
[07:44] <Random_Transit> well...as fine as GTK apps look in KDE....
[07:44] <alex_> jy
[07:44] <frojnd> if I wanna install xp on my kubuntu, do I need to install wmware-server or vmware-player or bouth ?'
[07:44] <semistud2354> lol...
[07:44] <Random_Transit> frojnd: neither...use Virtualbox
[07:44] <n8k99> Random_Transit: you can set them to use the KDE style
[07:44] <frojnd> Random_Transit: what do u mean?
[07:44] <BluesKaj> VMware server
[07:44] <alex_> fuck you
[07:44] <Random_Transit> n8k99: tried that
[07:45] <sercik> alex | language
[07:45] <sercik> ls
[07:45] <alex_> bitch
[07:45] <sercik> hi BluesKaj
[07:45] <alex_> fh
[07:45] <semistud2354> hey whats the probem
[07:45] <Carbon_Monoxide> hi folks
[07:45] <sercik> i don't know if you remember me (aspianatte)
[07:45] <jthomas> frojnd: vmware player works; read the howto here http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/linux/vmware-player-image-creation.php
[07:45] <semistud2354> problem
[07:45] <sercik> i'm definitevely convinced to se kubuntu now
[07:45] <alex_> may be able to fuck me
[07:46] <BluesKaj> hi sercik , yes i remeber from yesterday I believe
[07:46] <jthomas> alex_: come on watch the language
[07:46] <sercik> no not yesterday some months ago
[07:46] <PriceChild> !ops
[07:46] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[07:46] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: ?
[07:46] <BluesKaj> alex , do you a question >
[07:46] <sercik> BluesKaj: i see on startup an error messages boot sector are different from its backup os similar to this
[07:46] <Hobbsee> bah.
[07:46] <BluesKaj> have
[07:47] <Hobbsee> i'm not, usually
[07:47] <BluesKaj> sercik, I'm not sure what you mean ?
[07:48] <Carbon_Monoxide> can I choose to install KDE as desktop environment when I use the ubuntu iso disk to install?
[07:48] <BluesKaj> yes
[07:48] <adaptr> not directly from the disk, no
[07:48] <sercik> during startup before graphic i read : differences between boot sector and its backup, not automatically fixing that
[07:48] <Carbon_Monoxide> I downloaded and burnt the Ubuntu iso by mistake
[07:48] <sercik> Carbon_Monoxide: you can install kde on ubuntu and gnome on kubuntu if you want
[07:48] <Carbon_Monoxide> would that be different from installing with kubuntu iso disk?
[07:49] <fuel> after upgrading to fiesty, when i play rm,rmvb files, i dont get any audio. has anyone encountered similar problems?
[07:49] <sercik> also you can try xfce a lightweight and good windows manager
[07:49] <semistud2354> i already have kubuntu installed...is there any way to install windows with out it messing up my MASTERPEACE of an operating system
[07:49] <Carbon_Monoxide> sercik: my point is, I don't want to install gnome yet
[07:49] <BluesKaj> Carbon_Monoxide, you can install KDE from the repositories after you install Ubuntu
[07:49] <semistud2354> like duel boot
[07:49] <sercik> if you have downloaded ubuntu you have gnome default
[07:50] <sercik> or if you have downloaded alternate edition you can install as server and then add kde
[07:50] <Random_Transit> semistud2354: sure....you just have to restore the bootloader after reinstalling windows
[07:50] <Carbon_Monoxide> so what I have to do is to download kubuntu iso and burn it
[07:50] <semistud2354> how do you do that
[07:50] <semistud2354> ????????
[07:50] <sercik> semistud are you italian?
[07:50] <semistud2354> uhh...
[07:50] <semistud2354> no
[07:50] <Carbon_Monoxide> semistud: use a partition tool to backup your MBR
[07:50] <semistud2354> romanian, serbian
[07:51] <sercik> sorry about question
[07:51] <Random_Transit> semistud2354: boot back into an ubu live session, open a terminal and type grub-install /dev/<whatever your harddrive is>
[07:51] <sercik> Carbon_Monoxide: you are wrong
[07:51] <sercik> he need to install grub again because windows delete mbr
[07:51] <Carbon_Monoxide> sercik: which question you're referring to?
[07:51] <semistud2354> i see....
[07:51] <sercik> semistud2354: you can also use windows windows boot manager to start linux
[07:51] <hyper_ch> someone runs linuxmce here?
[07:51] <jthomas> Carbon_Monoxide: if you only want Kubu8ntu, yes a new ISO.  But if you have the hard drive space, you can install Ubuntu and add Kubuntu-Desktop to it via Adept/Synaptic/apt
[07:52] <sercik> search on internet for a guide
[07:52] <semistud2354> how do you do that??
[07:52] <BluesKaj> Carbon_Monoxide ,   http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[07:52] <olmo> when i click a url pointing to a m3u file (eg on http://juno.co.uk/) amarok adds the files to its playlist but doesnt play them by default. how can i change this ?
[07:52] <Carbon_Monoxide> sercik: doh! I have figured it in the reverse way. opps!  :-P
[07:52] <fuel> hi any ideas why i am not getting real media files audio output ?
[07:52] <sercik> no problem!!
[07:52] <fuel> !real
[07:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:52] <semistud2354> omg...i have that problem 2....olmo
[07:52] <sercik> and then kubuntu or linux in general always add windows in grub
[07:53] <sercik> BluesKaj: could you reply to my question?
[07:53] <Carbon_Monoxide> thanks BluesKaj, jthomas, & sercik!
[07:53] <olmo> semistud2354: hehe, do you know the answer ? :p
[07:53] <BluesKaj> sercik, ?
[07:53] <semistud2354> i wish...i was kinda hopin someone would tell you....so i could find out
[07:54] <sercik> during startup kubuntu check for my dos hd but i can't find that service in system services i want to speed up boot process
[07:54] <semistud2354> its when i play streams from stream tuner....
[07:54] <BluesKaj> sercik , have you installed windows after , linux ?
[07:54] <semistud2354> i always have to click back to amarok to play the damn stream...it doesnt play automatic
[07:54] <sercik> no
[07:55] <jaims> is this good place to ask 'bout beryl/kubuntu?
[07:55] <BluesKaj> !Grub
[07:55] <olmo> yeah
[07:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:55] <olmo> i hate it
[07:55] <sercik> i want to speedup process by skipping hd check and pcmcia
[07:55] <semistud2354> im pretty good with beryl
[07:55] <semistud2354> what you need help with bra
[07:55] <jaims> the thing is that everything has been installed
[07:55] <BluesKaj> sercik, I wouldn't do that and i wouldn't know how anyway :)
[07:55] <jaims> i run beryl-manager
[07:55] <sercik> i have searched under system services but i see less process of which kubuntu do on startup
[07:56] <jaims> but nothing happens :-(
[07:56] <jaims> just the icon on the tray
[07:56] <sercik> BluesKaj: no you are my mith!
[07:56] <jaims> i've installed nvidia drivers, xgl, beryl...
[07:57] <semistud2354> like...
[07:57] <semistud2354> you click beryl..as window manager....and nothing happens
[07:57] <jaims> i mean
[07:57] <jaims> i type beryl-manager in console
[07:57] <semistud2354> yea and the menu pops up
[07:57] <semistud2354> right
[07:57] <jaims> yeah
[07:58] <semistud2354> and when you click on beryl...
[07:58] <semistud2354> what happens
[07:58] <semistud2354> as window manager
[07:58] <jaims> before i installed xgl something strange happened: no title bar in open windows
[07:58] <jaims> do u mean bfore i start kde sesion?
[07:58] <semistud2354> like no min max X
[07:58] <jaims> yes
[07:59] <jaims> no min max buttons, no title bar
[07:59] <jaims> what means it was trying to work
[07:59] <jaims> it doesn't happen anymore
[07:59] <jaims> but
[07:59] <semistud2354> ...thats strange...cuz thers an emerald theme that has that...its a theme...thats all...but in your case i dont know....
[07:59] <jaims> nothing else happens!
[07:59] <jaims> :-)
[08:00] <dragan> hello, does anyone know how apt-mirror works? What will happen if I kill that process?
[08:00] <semistud2354> what happens when you click on beryl...as your window manager
[08:00] <nimble> check emerald is running, beryl is selected as the window manager in beryl-manager and your theme isnt blank
[08:00] <jaims> aha
[08:00] <dragan> I am at 13 of 15,6 GB... but I might be forced to stop dload
[08:00] <semistud2354> yea...and try picking a random theme that has the min max and such
[08:01] <jaims> emerald is running
[08:01] <semistud2354> did you change the theme
[08:01] <jaims> how do I check beryl is selectd as window manager?
[08:02] <semistud2354> right click...go to "select window manager"
[08:02] <semistud2354> and click beryl
[08:03] <jaims> aha
[08:03] <dragan> !apt-mirror
[08:03] <jaims> that's fine
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-mirror - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <jaims> now its working...
[08:03] <jaims> but my windows lost their tittle bar :-(
[08:03] <semistud2354> can yo spin the desktop
[08:03] <semistud2354> ???
[08:03] <semistud2354> can yo spin the desktop
[08:03] <jaims> yep
[08:03] <semistud2354> ok ok...now go into emerald
[08:04] <jaims> just tried
[08:04] <semistud2354> and change the theme
[08:04] <jaims> im on it i think
[08:04] <andreas__> !codec
[08:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:04] <semistud2354> when you change the theme....you need to click reload emerald
[08:04] <dragan> !mirror
[08:04] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[08:04] <nimble> only in xgl
[08:05] <semistud2354> i should say "relode theme manager"
[08:05] <jaims> yep
[08:05] <jaims> im near of it
[08:05] <jaims> :-)
[08:05] <semistud2354> im near of it
[08:05] <semistud2354> doesnt make sense
[08:06] <jaims> sorry for my english
[08:06] <jaims> I mean that it's working almost ok
[08:06] <semistud2354> do you have the min max and X
[08:06] <jaims> not
[08:06] <jaims> i've opened the emerald manager
[08:07] <jaims> first tab: there was nothing
[08:07] <semistud2354> no themes
[08:07] <jaims> 2nd tab: theme editing; picked one and saved
[08:07] <jaims> then in 1st tab I have a theme
[08:07] <jaims> 'untitled theme'
[08:07] <semistud2354> hmmm
[08:08] <jaims> but nothing happens when i reload the win manager
[08:08] <semistud2354> go into adept or synaptic
[08:08] <semistud2354> and get some themes
[08:08] <jaims> yes, ill try
[08:08] <semistud2354> or you can go online and get some emerald themes
[08:08] <jaims> everything but the title bar is working alright
[08:08] <jaims> i do the cubes stuff
[08:08] <jaims> alt-tab works the beryl way
[08:09] <semistud2354> then tab "theme settings" "theme" at top click import
[08:09] <semistud2354> and click on the theme you just downloaded
[08:09] <dragan> anyone downloading repo?
[08:09] <dragan> with apt-mirror?
[08:09] <semistud2354> it should work....
[08:11] <lydia_> hi there
[08:11] <killermach> has anyone had the pleasure (smirk) of tackling the ssh problems in Fiesty? I've spent alot of hours only to realize that it isn't my network, now it appears to be something broke in ssh in 7.04
[08:11] <killermach> lydia_: hello
[08:11] <semistud2354> ssh....
[08:11] <dragan> what with ssh?
[08:12] <semistud2354> what ssh problem
[08:12] <semistud2354> ...whats ssh
[08:12] <lydia_> hey there
[08:12] <dragan> it has to be installed :-)
[08:12] <lydia_> im new to linux
[08:12] <lydia_> can anyone help me?
[08:12] <semistud2354> what you need help with lydia
[08:12] <lydia_> i had so much trouble setting up my connection usb modem !
[08:12] <lydia_> erf
[08:12] <lydia_> im connected as i see it
[08:12] <dragan> great!
[08:13] <lydia_> but my browser dont connect
[08:13] <dragan> tell us HOW
[08:13] <lydia_> lol
[08:13] <dragan> :-)
[08:13] <jaims> semistud: thank you very much
[08:13] <semistud2354> you got it workin
[08:13] <jaims> i'll try some new themes
[08:13] <jaims> not yet!
[08:13] <jaims> but ill get it+
[08:13] <lydia_> i had to run tothe cyber coffee to install my dirty usb modem
[08:13] <dragan> lydia_: you need to set up DNS
[08:13] <semistud2354> yea...no problem...tell ppl about linux
[08:13] <lydia_> alright
[08:13] <semistud2354> spread the word....
[08:13] <lydia_> i got the numbers
[08:13] <jaims> yes I do semistud
[08:14] <jaims> :-)
[08:14] <lydia_> how do i set it up
[08:14] <jaims> thats my os of choice at my home
[08:14] <dragan> in system settings network
[08:14] <semistud2354> that sounded so...radical religion
[08:14] <semistud2354> ish
[08:14] <semistud2354> lol
[08:14] <dragan> in system settings > network
[08:14] <lydia_> alright but i connect with usb modem
[08:14] <jaims> lol
[08:14] <lydia_> does that work?
[08:14] <jaims> bye all
[08:14] <semistud2354> spread the the code of linux....can a get an aaaaaaaamen
[08:14] <dragan> it should
[08:14] <semistud2354> lol
[08:14] <jaims> lol
[08:15] <lydia_> alright im in the networ settings
[08:15] <sercik> lydia_: try to search on internet if your modem is supported before
[08:15] <dragan> if you wish to be certain... we will have to type a bit ;-)
[08:15] <semistud2354> ...whats ssh
[08:15] <dragan> sudo kedit
[08:15] <lydia_> my modem IS supported otherwise i wouldnt be here
[08:15] <dragan> then open /etc/resolv.conf lydia_
[08:16] <dragan> and in that file add new nameservers
[08:16] <lydia_> ok
[08:16] <jhutchins_lt> !kdesu
[08:16] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:16] <dragan> in form
[08:16] <dragan> nameserver 82.208.254.62
[08:16] <dragan> nameserver 82.208.254.63
[08:16] <Carbon_Monoxide> anyone here is using 64-bit kubuntu?
[08:16] <dragan> these are mine..
[08:17] <dragan> and make sure you have one new line at the end of file..
[08:17] <dragan> one enter will do
[08:17] <killermach> semistud2354: I just found this link http://www.mail-archive.com/misc%40openbsd.org/msg41340.html and then I commented out the GSS.... entries in ssh_config problem solved
[08:18] <lydia_> erf
[08:18] <lydia_> the nds are alredy in
[08:18] <dragan> jhutchins_lt: I am used to konsole... that is why I type sudo kedit ;-)
[08:18] <nhoult> I have a problem with Feisty not detecting all the buttons on my SNES joystick (dmesg says: "USB HID v1.00 Gamepad [RetroUSB.com SNES RetroPort]  on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1"). In Edgy it worked fine. Any ideas how I can force a drive to use the correct number of buttons?
[08:18] <dragan> hmmm lydia_
[08:18] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: of course.  pppd gets them from the isp
[08:19] <lydia_> i got them from the isp i went on the site this afternoon
[08:19] <dragan> then it might be proxy issue?
[08:19] <dragan> or route?
[08:19] <BluesKaj> Carbon_Monoxide, i tried 64bit (have AMD64 3200+CPU) but the hardwre support was lacking so i switched to x86
[08:19] <lydia_> maybe
[08:19] <jhutchins_lt> dragan: Doesn't matter whether you launch a GUI app from the console or from a shortcut, it's still a gui app.
[08:19] <zenekk> how much ram and swap does your feisty use?
[08:19] <_Therock> !image
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <sercik> can i do a completely backup of kubuntu so i can install on another pc already with all updates and personalizations
[08:19] <sercik> ??
[08:19] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: Can you ping or connect to anything by IP #?
[08:20] <ardchoille> sercik: I use PartImage for that.
[08:20] <dragan> lydia_: open konsole and type ifconfig and paste here what it says
[08:20] <sercik> PartImage i have read of it
[08:20] <ardchoille> sercik: http://partimage.org/Main_Page
[08:20] <sercik> it runs under linux
[08:20] <ardchoille> Yes, I don't use anything other than Kubuntu :)
[08:21] <jhutchins_lt> DO NOT PASTE HERE!
[08:21] <zenekk> eee
[08:21] <jhutchins_lt> USE PAASTEBIN!
[08:21] <lydia_> i didnt try it
[08:21] <zenekk> i asked a question
[08:21] <dragan> !pastebin
[08:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:21] <zenekk> type top in konsole and tell me
[08:21] <zenekk> i dont think that this is a problem
[08:22] <jhutchins_lt> zenekk: Won't do you any good, I'm running mandriva.
[08:22] <killermach> well I feel compelled to tell you all about my experience with GSSAPIAuthentication in Fiesty ssh_config
[08:22] <zenekk> im running windows 3.11 so what
[08:23] <dragan> RAM Usage: 360/970M zenekk
[08:23] <lydia_> cant copy you the text dragan*
[08:23] <lydia_> private message bla bla...
[08:23] <dragan> Tasks: 128 total,   3 running, 125 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[08:23] <dragan> Cpu(s):  3.3%us,  3.6%sy,  0.0%ni, 92.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.3%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[08:23] <lydia_> but i just cant register!!!!
[08:23] <lydia_> ^
[08:23] <haLLogram> can anyone help me change GRUB with Windows Boot?
[08:23] <Karti> Hi all
[08:24] <Carbon_Monoxide> BluesKaj: yea, I tried 64-bit Breezy and the hardware support and libs dependency is a big headache
[08:24] <jhutchins_lt> !grub
[08:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:24] <dragan> lydia_: pastebin
[08:24] <dragan> !pastebin
[08:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:24] <lydia_> !pastebin
[08:24] <Carbon_Monoxide> BluesKaj: I switched back to i386 platform finally
[08:24] <lydia_> does that work?
[08:24] <killermach> my ssh was working fine, I was doing remote access to servers, life is good, work was getting done. then yesterday new furniture arrived, I broke down a network subnet of 3 machines, put in new furniture, reassembled the 3 machine subnet of our network and no ssh to our main webserver ACK!
[08:24] <zenekk> thanks dragan
[08:25] <dragan> dunno...never user it ;-)
[08:25] <Carbon_Monoxide> BluesKaj: and I'm thinking if it is a good time for me to switch to 64-bit
[08:25] <killermach> considering the hardware and cabling move, I was sure I had a physical network problem
[08:25] <dthacker> Hi, I've just installed apache2 and started it.   I was expecting to see the apache test page at localhost, but I'm getting a can"t connect error.  How should I debug this?  PS. I'm on Kubuntu 7.04
[08:26] <Karti> dthacker: have you also tried the 127.0.0.1 address?
[08:26] <dthacker> Karti: no, let me try now.
[08:26] <killermach> however, I could ssh from fiesty to 3 other servers on our local network connected to another switch, located elsewhere in the building, and those machines connected to our main webserver no problems.. good to know our server was online
[08:26] <jhutchins_lt> dthacker: Logs are in /var/log/httpd, try the errors log.
[08:26] <dragan> lydia_: just tell me here... what sections you got form ifconfig? like eth0 ppp0 lo .. etc
[08:26] <killermach> I could ssh localhost no problem
[08:27] <semistud2354> im really want to play some nintendo 64 games....does anyone know a good emulator for linux
[08:27] <semistud2354> or maby something that i could use with wine
[08:27] <Carbon_Monoxide> well, gotta go. later!
[08:27] <llutz> hi
[08:27] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354: I know there is one, but that's all.  Try google.
[08:28] <dragan> or synaptic ;-)
[08:28] <dthacker> Karti: no test page, but I do get a listing of subdirectories.
[08:28] <dthacker> jhutchins: will check error log in a second
[08:28] <ubuntu> wou
[08:28] <Karti> that is it working there
[08:28] <semistud2354> im did alittle reaserch...whats kamefu
[08:29] <BluesKaj> Carbon_Monoxide, dunno , it depends on hardware driver support ...check around and see if your graphics and soundcards are 64bit driver supported ..then by all means , but the advantages aren't so apparent from what i heard
[08:29] <semistud2354> can anyone go there see if thats something worth trying
[08:29] <killermach> fish:// URLs were also broken, even to the machines locally that I could ssh to in the building. ODD.. any how, about 4 or more hours of troubleshooting, I find that I have an ubuntu 6.10 box alive on the same subnet (a multiboot machine) it ssh connects to everywhere from this same physical subnet just fine
[08:29] <Karti> open the directory there and it should put you to a page that says *IT WORKS*
[08:29] <lydia_> dragan : etho:avah lo and pppO
[08:29] <jhutchins_lt> semistud2354: There's a lot to running a webserver other than installing it and starting it.
[08:30] <dragan> lydia_: go in konsole and type >>    sudo route add default ppp0
[08:30] <F1_F_A> xdcc list
[08:30] <dragan> and try browser again
[08:30] <lydia_> SIOCADDRT: File exists
[08:30] <killermach> I start examining the differences between fiesty and edgy connections using ssh -vv weberver and find that edgy has no GSSAPIAuthentication notices, a quick google produces the link I put earlier
[08:30] <lydia_> nothing
[08:31] <dragan> hmmm that USB....
[08:31] <lydia_> lol
[08:31] <killermach> any how, I hope none of the rest you waste a whole workday on this issue, does anyone know why it became broken?
[08:31] <dragan> route is there... dns is there... connection is there...
[08:32] <dragan> and you are here....
[08:32] <lydia_> yep
[08:32] <dragan> just odd
[08:32] <lydia_> i cant understand
[08:32] <dragan> browser = konqueror?
[08:32] <lydia_> yep
[08:32] <lydia_> i know its not the best and has conflicts
[08:32] <dragan> you tried google?
[08:32] <lydia_> yes
[08:32] <dragan> I mean to browse...
[08:33] <lydia_> google doesnt show and ping on google is ok
[08:33] <dragan> no to ask :-)
[08:33] <lydia_> lol
[08:33] <dragan> what??? ping google.com returns IP?
[08:33] <jhutchins_lt> !ipv6
[08:33] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:33] <ubuntu> pls somebody where is some ICQ for linux?? get me some link pls
[08:34] <lydia_> 65 ms
[08:34] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: THat may help.
[08:34] <lydia_> yep
[08:34] <lydia_> im gonna try that messenger
[08:34] <dragan> well I am confused with this... :-)
[08:34] <dragan> nononono
[08:34] <lydia_> kopete
[08:34] <lydia_> no?
[08:34] <dragan> disable IPv6
[08:34] <lydia_> how do i do
[08:35] <dragan> that is what jhutchins_lt suggested
[08:35] <dragan> !ipv6
[08:35] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:35] <ubuntu> mluvi tady nekdo cesky nebo se mi to zda?
[08:35] <lydia_> do i type it here?
[08:35] <lydia_> o _o
[08:36] <Graham> Hey peeps, do any of you know of a guide or what packages I need to play WMA files in Amarok?
[08:36] <BluesKaj> !cz
[08:36] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[08:36] <_Therock> !mount
[08:36] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:36] <lydia_> !ipv6
[08:36] <jhutchins_lt> !mp3 | grahm
[08:36] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:36] <ubotu> grahm: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:36] <BluesKaj> Graham, w32codecs
[08:37] <lydia_> ricardo
[08:37] <Graham> In that case... why would Amarok continually crash when playing WMA files?
[08:37] <lydia_> tu es francais
[08:37] <lydia_> tu vas pouvoir maider
[08:38] <sybux> hi
[08:38] <sybux> I've got a little question about nfs
[08:38] <lydia_> nintendo sound files?
[08:39] <jhutchins_lt> !nfs
[08:39] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:39] <Graham> Yes it is the network file system, good little ubot
[08:39] <BluesKaj> graham, make sure you have universe and multiverse repositories enabled in your sources list
[08:39] <dragan> now... can I get some info? ;-) about apt-mirror ?
[08:39] <sybux> Is there a way to change speed or to make nfs connection better ?
[08:39] <lydia_> i used to write tunes in nsf format
[08:39] <lydia_> ^^
[08:39] <sybux> I explain. I've got a server with all my video on it.
[08:39] <Graham> BluesKaj: How would that stop Amarok?
[08:40] <Graham> I think it's just a dodgy wma file, other WMA files seem to play alright.
[08:40] <sybux> I access it by nfs but every 20-30 seconds, the movie hang and go on.
[08:40] <Graham> I'll get arround to a ,ogg convert
[08:40] <cntb> anyone knows of keyboard recorder to save me keystrokes of repetitive work in firefox
[08:40] <BluesKaj> Graham, you don't have the right codecs installed to play window media
[08:40] <lydia_> so nobody found for my strange problem ?
[08:40] <BluesKaj> windows media
[08:41] <dragan> lydia_: have you set up konqeror for web browsing also?
[08:41] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: Would you re-state it?  I missed the original.
[08:41] <lydia_> nope
[08:41] <yurimxpxman> I'm trying to play a FLAC file in Amarok, and it says there's no available decoder. What's wrong?
[08:41] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: N'mind, I've got it.
[08:41] <lydia_> i didnt set up anything on konqeror
[08:41] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: Your browser didn't connect.
[08:41] <dragan> it's default role is file browser
[08:41] <lydia_> yes
[08:41] <jhutchins_lt> What happened when you tried to ping things?
[08:41] <BluesKaj> Graham,, now you tell us ! ...lotsa wmv wma files are corrupted
[08:41] <lydia_> pings are ok
[08:42] <lydia_> and file browsing is ok too lol
[08:42] <dragan> ping is cool ;-)
[08:42] <lydia_> lol
[08:42] <dragan> dns is there... route is there
[08:42] <pierre__> hey
[08:42] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: You can ping by hostname too, right?
[08:42] <lydia_> so i must setup konqeror
[08:42] <pierre__> how to launch an app automatically, like yakuake ?
[08:42] <lydia_> by hostname?
[08:42] <Graham> BluesKaj: What do you mean "now you tell us" I just found out!!!!!!!!
[08:42] <lydia_> what do you mean
[08:43] <yurimxpxman> do any of you have any idea why Amarok is telling me that there's no available decoder when I try to play FLAC audio? I have the amarok xine package installed
[08:43] <dragan> by name
[08:43] <lydia_> (im french )
[08:43] <BluesKaj> yurimxpxman, sudo apt-get install flac
[08:43] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: Yeah, like ping novell.com
[08:43] <lydia_> alright
[08:43] <dragan> hostname = google.com
[08:43] <sybux> lydia_: in stead of 192.x.x.1, just ping mycomputer for example
[08:43] <moralless> hey, is there anyway i can get soundkonverter to de/encode m4a's?
[08:43] <aliendoggy> should apache run php file default when i intalled a LAMP config true the server cd?
[08:43] <sybux> dragan: hostname <> google.com which is the domain name !!
[08:43] <yurimxpxman> BluesKaj: I just tried that and it still doesn't work
[08:43] <_Therock> !cdemu
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <sybux> aliendoggy: yep
[08:44] <lydia_> novell dont work
[08:44] <lydia_> i got no pings anymore
[08:44] <lydia_> HAHAHA
[08:44] <lydia_> f***
[08:44] <jhutchins_lt> Ok, so no numeric ping either?
[08:44] <sybux> lydia_: novell is your computer name ?
[08:44] <lydia_> no
[08:44] <jhutchins_lt> sybux: No.
 When i access the server true firefox/opera in my local network it will only download the php file.
[08:45] <BluesKaj> yurimxpxman,you may have to configure amarok to play the flac files
[08:45] <sybux> ah..
[08:45] <lydia_> google works now.
[08:45] <pierre__> also, is there a way to change the behavior to open files with konqeror, to double click instead of single click like on a link ? i haven't found anything in the options
[08:45] <moralless> hey, is there anyway i can get soundkonverter to de/encode m4a's?
[08:45] <jhutchins_lt> Hah.  Sounds like maybe the connection isn't very good.
[08:45] <sybux> aliendoggy: and you just have installed lamp
[08:45] <dragan> yes sybux ... jc-in-f99.google.com is true host name for domain name google.com...but I think that it does not matter that much for lydia_
[08:45] <lydia_> but when i loged in my commands ended in "ping timeout"
 Yes.
[08:46] <lydia_> strange isnt it
[08:46] <sybux> dragan: sure, but I prefer to use good term :)
[08:46] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: That may be a part of the connect script failing.
[08:46] <yurimxpxman> BluesKaj: I figured it out. I was missing some of the libxine packages :-)
[08:46] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: So it looks like it will work at least some of the time?
[08:46] <lydia_> oh no
[08:46] <lydia_> lol
[08:47] <Cnl_Delta> hi, whats the safest way to delete a shared FAT32 partition?
[08:47] <dragan> brb
[08:47] <BluesKaj> yurimxpxman, yup , ya gotta have them libxines , that's what amarok runs on
[08:47] <jhutchins_lt> Cnl_Delta: Shared?
[08:47] <jhutchins_lt> Cnl_Delta: Via what?
 Any idea whats wrong?
[08:47] <Cnl_Delta> well i got a shared FAT32 parition for xp and ubuntu
[08:47] <sybux> aliendoggy: just have a look in folder /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to see if you have a php conf file
[08:48] <Cnl_Delta> i installed xp after ubuntu/kubuntu and now xp thinks the shared parition is the root
[08:48] <jhutchins_lt> aliendoggy: You have not configured the mime type for PHP.  Did you restart the server?
[08:48] <Cnl_Delta> and i plan to re-install xp qhile maintaining kubuntu
[08:48] <jhutchins_lt> Cnl_Delta:  I would just use fdisk, you can also use cfdisk or qtparted.
[08:49] <Cnl_Delta> right now the shared FAT32 partition is recognised as C: and install go automatically into it (its just 4 GB) while xp is in D: which is 55 GB but not default for installs
[08:49] <BluesKaj> !grub | Cnl_Delta,
[08:49] <ubotu> Cnl_Delta,: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:49] <Cnl_Delta> i got grub working
[08:49] <Cnl_Delta> i just need to delete a shared 32 partition for now
[08:49] <Cnl_Delta> *FAT32 partition
[08:49] <lydia_> 1 s lag
[08:49] <BluesKaj> yes Cnl_Delta , but if you install windows it'll be gone
[08:50] <lydia_> thats just mad
[08:50] <Cnl_Delta> i can delete it out if fstab..
[08:50] <dragan> now it works?
[08:50] <lydia_> no
[08:50] <lydia_> cant connect to host
[08:51] <dragan> I am lost... sorry
[08:51] <Cnl_Delta> k so i can just use gparted to delete a shared FAT32 partition
[08:51] <sybux> !mp3
[08:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:53] <lydia_> erf
[08:54] <BluesKaj> Cnl_Delta, I don't see whynot , GParted is the best there is
[08:54] <lydia_> im gonna try another irc server just to see if it connects
[08:54] <Cnl_Delta> best there is outside NTFS resizing and moving :)
[08:54] <NetersLandreau> hello.. i'm trying to generate some keys using ecert but get the error of missing libssl.so.4.. any clue where i can locate that lib?
[08:55] <lydia_> i cant register sybux
[08:55] <lydia_> so im gonna talk here
[08:55] <lydia_> my probleme is
[08:55] <BluesKaj> NetersLandreau, type that into konqueror , it should come up
[08:55] <lydia_> that im connected as you can see
[08:55] <jhutchins_lt> !find libssl.so.4
[08:55] <ubuntu__> hi lydia
[08:55] <sybux> yep
[08:56] <ubotu> Package/file libssl.so.4 does not exist in feisty
[08:56] <lydia_> but i cant browse anything in konqeror
[08:56] <lydia_> hi jhutchins_lt
[08:56] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: Do you have firefox or lynx installed?
[08:56] <lydia_> nope
[08:56] <sybux> how are you connected to internet ?
[08:56] <lydia_> i didnt install anything yet
[08:56] <lydia_> i think so!
[08:56] <NetersLandreau> BluesKaj: do mean mean google it?
[08:56] <lydia_> usb adsl
[08:57] <lydia_> with a custom script
[08:57] <BluesKaj> nope into the konqueror searchbar, neter
[08:57] <lydia_> for my sh**y sagem fast 800
[08:57] <NetersLandreau> thx ubotu :).. any known workarounds?
[08:57] <sybux> ok
[08:57] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: lynx is a simple console based browser.  mozilla-firefox is good for sites that konqueror doesn't handle.  I would install one or both and see if they had the same problem.
[08:57] <moralless> hey, is there any way to se soundkonverter to de/encode m4as?
[08:57] <BluesKaj> nope into the konqueror searchbar, NetersLandreau
[08:57] <lydia_> command pings in the terminal are ok
[08:58] <sybux> can you ping 81.56.197.34 ?
[08:58] <lydia_> im gonna try
[08:58] <lydia_> yes
[08:59] <sybux> ok now can you ping www.sybux.com
[08:59] <BluesKaj> moralless, m4as?
[08:59] <lydia_> yes
[08:59] <sybux> in konqueror, can you go to www.sybux.com ?
[08:59] <lydia_> nope
[09:00] <lydia_> maybe its a ping setting in konqeror?
[09:00] <lydia_> too short set up
[09:00] <sybux> can you to a telnet www.sybux.com 80 and then type get index.php ?
[09:00] <lydia_> telnet?
[09:00] <moralless> BluesKaj: yeah
[09:00] <doop> i have a directory with lots of files and sub dirs that are world writable. how do i make them not that way?
[09:00] <sybux> yep instead of ping
[09:00] <lydia_> i have no idea of what it is sorry!
[09:00] <lydia_> ok
[09:01] <zorglu_>  telnet www.sybux.com 80 <- lydia_ type that in a terminal
[09:01] <jhutchins_lt> Is telnet even installed by default?
[09:01] <sybux> yep but not the server
[09:01] <lydia_> yes im connected
[09:01] <llutz> doop: chmod -R 755 /your/directory
[09:01] <zorglu_> get index.php <- then that, when within telnet, then enter
[09:02] <doop> thx
[09:02] <lydia_> yes that works
[09:02] <sybux> lydia_: ok so now, we are sure that the problem is in konqueror and not elsewhere
[09:02] <lydia_> error 400 is this normal?
[09:02] <sybux> lydia_: can you type in your console sudo apt-get install firefox. It will install firefox
[09:03] <zorglu_> sybux: he/she tried firefox/elinks ?
[09:03] <jhutchins_lt> sybux: Nice picture by the way.
[09:03] <zorglu_> ah ok
[09:03] <sybux> ^^
[09:03] <NetersLandreau> what i find when searching for libssl.so is that it is in the openssl RPM.. my openssl is up-to-date and the bot says the lib exists no mo' :(
[09:03] <lydia_> no package
[09:04] <sybux> jhutchins_lt: just come to Geneva to the lake parade and you'll see more nice !
[09:04] <sybux> lydia_:  ???
[09:04] <jhutchins_lt> sybux: Some day.  My mother's grandfather was from Swizerland.
[09:04] <lydia_> Aucune version du paquet firefox n'est disponible, mais il existe dans la base
[09:04] <BluesKaj> moralless, did you check in the dropdownlist beside the convert command to see if m4a is listed , cuz it is my version
[09:05] <dragan> now... can I get some info? ;-) about apt-mirror ?
[09:05] <lydia_> no version of the firefox package is available but it exists in the base
[09:05] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: mozilla-firefox
[09:05] <sybux> lydia_: are you french ?
[09:05] <jhutchins_lt> !info mozilla-firefox
[09:05] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 57 kB, installed size 116 kB
[09:05] <jhutchins_lt> lydia_: So you have to make sure universe is enabled.
[09:06] <lydia_> nothing
[09:06] <lydia_> yes i am sybux
[09:06] <sybux> lol me too !!!
[09:06] <lydia_> ok
[09:06] <zorglu_> moralless: ffmpeg is able to do it, btw
[09:06] <lydia_> je sais pas si ca va nous faciliter les choses
[09:06] <lydia_> mais bon
[09:06] <lydia_> lol
[09:06] <zorglu_> lydia_: i am french too, but thisis a english channel :)
[09:06] <sybux> ok can you go to konqueror and open in settinge the configure Konqueror
[09:07] <lydia_> yes and im easier with english when it comes to computers
[09:07] <lydia_> ok
[09:07] <sybux> and there is more answer here than on the french channel !
[09:07] <frojnd> I've installed vmware-player and now I wanna run XP. How can I run XP with vnmware-player if XP are allready installed on primary partition (/sda1) ??
[09:07] <jhutchins_lt> frojnd: #vmware
[09:07] <sybux> lydia_: go down to proxy
[09:07] <BluesKaj> zorglu_, soundkonverter has it listed as one of the codecs it will handle , just have to have the latest version I think
[09:08] <lydia_> yep
[09:08] <zorglu_> BluesKaj: ok
[09:08] <sybux> which option is selected?
[09:08] <lydia_> connect directly
[09:08] <dragan> frojnd: vmware player runs .vmx files... NOT other system from dual boot
[09:08] <lydia_> socks disabled
[09:08] <sybux> it's oky
[09:08] <sybux> and you can't go to any web site ?
[09:08] <lydia_> yes
[09:08] <frojnd> how can I run than xp
[09:09] <sybux> can you retry to go to www.sybux.com in konqueror
[09:09] <frojnd> dragan
[09:09] <lydia_> An error occurred while loading http://www.sybux.com
[09:09] <ziofrankie> could you recommend me a sniffer on kubuntu?
[09:09] <zorglu_> !info elinks
[09:09] <ubotu> elinks: advanced text-mode WWW browser. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11.1-1.2ubuntu2.1 (feisty), package size 610 kB, installed size 3336 kB
[09:09] <dragan> as jhutchins_lt said... switch to #wmvare channel
[09:09] <sybux> very very strange
[09:09] <zorglu_> !info wireshark | ziofrankie
[09:09] <ubotu> ziofrankie: wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-6 (feisty), package size 566 kB, installed size 1576 kB
[09:09] <BluesKaj> frojnd, you have to have the VMWare server not the player to run windows in it
[09:09] <moralless> BluesKaj: how do use m4as?
[09:10] <lydia_> id check if i have a firefox install ont the linux cd ...
[09:10] <ThinkRusty87> ./server 67.184.254.124
[09:10] <ThinkRusty87> ./server 67.184.254.124
[09:10] <ThinkRusty87> ./server 67.184.254.124
[09:10] <sybux> lydia_: if you type sudo apt-get install firefix it should normaly works
[09:11] <BluesKaj> n moralless , just convert the file to what you want to use , and btw ,it's m4a , not m4as
[09:11] <zorglu_> fdoving: fast reaction, the other channel on which the spammer is, are slower :)
[09:11] <lydia_> is says maybe its available in another source
[09:11] <sybux> Is there a way to change speed or to make nfs connection better ?
[09:11] <dragan> frojnd: and just to clarify, you CANNOT run that XP from sda1 in Linux,
[09:11] <sybux> I access it by nfs but every 20-30 seconds, the movie hang and go on.
[09:11] <frojnd> dragan: why's that?
[09:12] <sybux> lydia_: and what do sudo apt-get update ?
[09:12] <moralless> BluesKaj: i know. and i've tried, it just writes empty files
[09:12] <dragan> frojnd: it is not possible
[09:12] <lydia_> erf
[09:12] <lydia_> wont it blow up my connection?
[09:12] <zorglu_> sybux: how fast is the connectionwith the remote host ?
[09:12] <frojnd> dragan: why not? it's only a partition and linux don't need to be on promary partition..
[09:12] <frojnd> primary*
[09:12] <sybux> zorglu_: which one ?
[09:12] <dragan> frojnd: just not possible... can you run your car at same time on diesel and petrol?
[09:13] <dragan> and go with each engine where you wish?
[09:13] <lydia_> dragan yes but not for long
[09:13] <zorglu_> lydia_: type "sudo apt-get install elinks" in a terminal. it will install a text browser from which you can do more test
[09:13] <zorglu_> sybux: the nfs server
[09:13] <sybux> zorglu_: sorry... My server is connect at 100Mb and I'm with my laptop via wireless
[09:13] <frojnd> dragan: ok..
[09:13] <dragan> it has not been made possible yet
[09:14] <dragan> as simple as that
[09:14] <zorglu_> sybux: nfs is able to saturate 100mbit without a sweat. so my guess is the wireless
[09:14] <lydia_> imoossible to fond the packet
[09:14] <zorglu_> sybux: especially the packet drop rate
[09:14] <lydia_> find
[09:14] <frojnd> !vmware xp
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmware xp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <zorglu_> lydia_: you got the ubuntu box connected to the internet ?
[09:14] <frojnd> !vmware
[09:14] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[09:14] <lydia_> ubuntu box?
[09:15] <sybux> zorglu_: strange. I'm full bandwith connected with my wireless
[09:15] <sybux> zorglu_: she's connected with an adsl modem
[09:15] <zorglu_> sybux: try to put your file thru http and test. just to see the bandwidht available
[09:15] <sybux> zorglu_: via usb
[09:15] <BluesKaj> moralless, what file is it , do you have a URL ?
[09:16] <lydia_> the small icon below at the right?
[09:16] <zorglu_> sybux: for info, i use nfs everyday at 10mbyte/s, so it is possible.no wireless tho
[09:16] <zorglu_> sybux: and a typical movie is 300kbyte/s
[09:16] <sybux> zorglu_: perhaps my problem is with vlc also !
[09:16] <main2> if i mount a NFS share as root, then my normal user accounts dont have write access
[09:16] <zorglu_> lydia_: ok "sudo apt-get install elinks" should work, in theory.
[09:17] <jhutchins> sybux: It would be smart to try a different player.
[09:17] <main2> can i easily automount NFS' shares for users? :)
[09:17] <zorglu_> lydia_: have you configured your /etc/sources.list ?
[09:17] <cntb> anyone knows of keyboard recorder to save me keystrokes of repetitive work in firefox
[09:17] <lydia_> nope
[09:17] <moralless> BluesKaj: it's just random mp3's and ogg's i need to convert for my phone. and i don't have a url
[09:17] <cntb> jhutchins ?
[09:17] <zorglu_> lydia_: thisis likely the cause for you not finding the packages
[09:17] <zorglu_> !sources | lydia_
[09:17] <ubotu> lydia_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:17] <lydia_> ok
[09:18] <sybux> jhutchins: yes I can now. I've just installed mediabuntu !!
[09:18] <jhutchins> cntb: Nope, mostly I use konqueror.
[09:18] <lydia_> and how do i config that?
[09:18] <zorglu_> lydia_: some other people may be able to provide better info on the sources.list. im not very uptodate on this
[09:18] <cntb> anyone knows of keyboard recorder to save me keystrokes of repetitive work in konqueror or firefox
[09:19] <pierre__> does someone know how to configure konqueror to double click to open a file instead of single click ?
[09:19] <jhutchins> lydia_: Being a console guy, I just edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and un-comment all the sources.
[09:19] <jhutchins> lydia_: I think there's a button to configure sources in the GUI too though.
[09:19] <BluesKaj> m4a files are itunes files , no wonder they don't work  ..they're protected ...there is a way to convert them but i think soundkonverter needs to some extra libs to do it.
[09:19] <jhutchins> pierre__: I think it's an option in kdesu kcontrol.
[09:20] <sybux> lydia_: you can also user Adept manager
[09:20] <ardchoille> pierre__: open kcontrol and go to Peripherals > Mouse
[09:20] <jhutchins> gtkpod will convert to/from m4a.
[09:20] <BluesKaj> cntb, err... cut & paste ?
[09:20] <pierre__> ardchoille, great ! thx
[09:20] <ardchoille> pierre__: It's in the "Icons" section of the Mouse properties
[09:20] <cntb> BluesKaj: no
[09:20] <ardchoille> pierre__: You're welcome :)
[09:21] <pierre__> and about this sudo thing, how to use konqueror in sudo mode ?
[09:21] <pierre__> if that makes sense
[09:21] <lydia_> it says firefox is installed
[09:21] <moralless> BluesKaj: do you know what i'd need to search for in the repositories or what other repostories i'd need?
[09:21] <ardchoille> pierre__: The file manager?
[09:21] <pierre__> yes
[09:21] <sybux> lydia_: so, just lunch it !!!
[09:21] <cntb> BluesKaj:  example in windows - > http://www.kratronic.com/tools/recorder/
[09:21] <lydia_> how?
[09:21] <dragan> jhutchins: do you know anything about apt-mirror ? and about mirroring whole repo at all?
[09:22] <ardchoille> pierre__: kdesu kfmclient exec /home   (replace "/home" with any path)
[09:22] <cntb> also grass software 's
[09:22] <ardchoille> !kdesu | pierre__
[09:22] <ubotu> pierre__: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[09:22] <sybux> lydia_: just type firefox in console or from the internet K menu
[09:22] <pierre__> ardchoille, ok thanks again!
[09:22] <BluesKaj> dunno, i'd google something like "converting itunes m4a in soundkonvertor" ...shrug :)
[09:22] <lydia_> could not run!
[09:22] <lydia_> :(
[09:22] <ardchoille> pierre__: I would caution that opening the file manager with kdesu will give you a root instance, be careful with it :)
[09:23] <jhutchins> dragan: Not a thing.
[09:23] <dragan> darn
[09:23] <sybux> lydia_: have you lunch it in console ?
[09:23] <dragan> anyone??? please...
[09:23] <lydia_> what do you call console
[09:23] <sybux> shell
[09:23] <lydia_> the terminal
[09:23] <pierre__> one (last) one, what about starting an application at session start, is there any kind of start directory ?
[09:23] <sybux> yep
[09:23] <pierre__> i want to have yakuake started when my session start
[09:23] <frojnd> I've installed vmware-server how can I start it?
[09:23] <jhutchins> dragan: Google is your friend: http://popey.com/Creating_an_Ubuntu_repository_mirror_with_apt-mirror
[09:23] <lydia_> what command shall i type.?
[09:24] <sybux> firefox
[09:24] <moralless> BluesKaj: worth a shot, i'll try it and brb
[09:24] <lydia_> doesnt work
[09:24] <lydia_> lol
[09:24] <sybux> what does it says
[09:24] <lydia_> bash : firefox : command not found
[09:25] <ardchoille> pierre__: You can put .desktop files in ~/.kde/Autostart to have apps autostart on login
[09:25] <dragan> jhutchins: I need real time experience... not few man pages... ;-) that is why I ask.. I got it up and running.. just needed to know few things...oh well
[09:25] <sybux> lydia_: so it's not installed
[09:25] <lydia_> adept manager says its installed
[09:25] <cntb> anyone knows of keyboard recorder to save me keystrokes of repetitive work in konqueror or firefox
[09:25] <BluesKaj> moralless, http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93123
[09:25] <lydia_> :(
[09:25] <jhutchins> dragan: So catch popey when he's on and ask him.  He's GMT.
[09:26] <sybux> in adept can you select firefox to be reinstalled
[09:26] <dragan> jhutchins:  10x
[09:26] <ardchoille> pierre__: Here is an example of a desktop file for autostart: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/36348
[09:26] <claudio__> help me?
[09:26] <lydia_> reinstall requested
[09:27] <pierre__> ardchoille, ok thanks i try it now
[09:27] <sybux> yes
[09:27] <sybux> and then click apply change in the toolbar
[09:27] <lydia_> but it dont DL
[09:27] <sybux> is your installation a fresh one ?
[09:27] <lydia_> yes
[09:28] <lydia_> it says it has a problem
[09:28] <lydia_> while wownloading
[09:28] <lydia_> down*
[09:28] <sybux> perhaps, it should be a good test to reinstall it
[09:28] <jhutchins> reinstall - that means it's allready there.
[09:28] <pierre__> ardchoille, where is this  .kde folder ?
[09:28] <jhutchins> pierre__: Hidden.
[09:29] <ardchoille> pierre__: in your home:  /home/<username>/.kde  It's a hidden folder.
[09:29] <lydia_> i can fetch updates
[09:29] <lydia_> its downloading
[09:29] <ardchoille> pierre__: In konqueror: View > Show hidden files
[09:29] <sybux> lydia_: ??? very strange. Are you connect with FranceTelecom ?
[09:29] <sybux> lydia_: just kidding 
[09:30] <lydia_> lol
[09:30] <ardchoille> lol
[09:30] <lydia_> it proposes me to upgrade
[09:30] <sybux> upgrade
[09:30] <lydia_> it says
[09:30] <lydia_> check if ytour connectionis active
[09:31] <lydia_> passive connectoion maybe
[09:32] <pierre__> ardchoille, it works well, thx
[09:32] <moralless_> ok, connection problems.
[09:32] <ardchoille> P__: You're welcome :)
[09:35] <binks> !myth
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <cntb> !mythtv
[09:36] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[09:36] <lydia_> maybe if i reboot
[09:37] <lydia_> lol
[09:37] <cntb> guys try google >> keyboard recorder   repetitive linux
[09:37] <binks> cntb: have you installed mythtv
[09:37] <semistud2354> can someone help....everytime i start an emulation in mupen64 the program crashes
[09:37] <cntb> no just thought you might need that ubotu answer
[09:38] <binks> lol cheers
[09:38] <semistud2354> any ideas
[09:41] <fico> sdfs
[09:41] <lydia_> :(
[09:42] <fico> CAN ANYBODY SEE ME?
[09:42] <lydia_> yes fico
[09:42] <_Therock> yep
[09:42] <_Therock> heh
[09:42] <semistud2354> can someone help....everytime i start an emulation in mupen64 the program crashes
[09:42] <fico> yUPy!!!
[09:42] <semistud2354> any ideas
[09:42] <lydia_> any ideas for me?
[09:42] <lydia_> too?
[09:42] <fico> beats me
[09:42] <cntb> anyone knows of keyboard recorder to save me keystrokes of repetitive work in konqueror or firefox
[09:44] <nnaelphin> Hello, how can I install nvidia TNT drivers? In display it says it cannot test, and it won't let me apply either
[09:45] <lydia_> maybe if i pass by a proxy?
[09:45] <lydia_> anyone knows a good one
[09:46] <lydia_> my route is 0.0.0.0
[09:46] <lydia_> maybe thats it
[09:46] <_Therock> hehe
[09:46] <_Therock> what is your problem lydia?
[09:46] <lydia_> hi the rock
[09:46] <lydia_> i can chat her but i cant browse the inetrnet
[09:47] <_Therock> local firewall?
[09:47] <lydia_> ?
[09:47] <zorglu_> lydia_: 0.0.0.0 is the 'default route' this is normal
[09:47] <lydia_> ok zorglu
[09:47] <lydia_> firewall
[09:47] <lydia_> if theres any i didnt know it
[09:47] <_Therock> tryed to open a console and type telnet www.google.com 80
[09:47] <_Therock> ?
[09:47] <zorglu_> !tab | lydia_
[09:48] <ubotu> lydia_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:48] <lydia_> lol yes i know
[09:48] <lydia_> my bad*
[09:48] <_Therock> lydia tryed that?
[09:48] <_Therock> to telnet to google
[09:49] <ubuntu> hi what can i do when i can't open my HDD when i am on life cd kubuntu???
[09:50] <lydia_> im connected
[09:50] <lydia_> to www.l.google.com
[09:50] <lydia_> escape bla bla
[09:50] <hyper_ch> has anyone tried LinuxMCE?
[09:50] <tux666> why is that you cannot open your hdd?
[09:50] <_Therock> okay so it connected you lydia
[09:51] <_Therock> that's good :)
[09:51] <cntb> is kdcop in ubuntu package s?
[09:51] <_Therock> so it's a setting of some kind, it's not a network problem
[09:51] <cntb> is kdcop in ubuntu package s?
[09:51] <cntb> sorry
[09:51] <lydia_> yes i think so too
[09:51] <ubuntu> tux666:  i don't know it says somethink about mount and i don't know how i can do it.
[09:51] <lydia_> i sure its a network setting
[09:52] <_Therock> you use kubuntu?
[09:52] <lydia_> yep
[09:52] <_Therock> well im new to that but i will try :)
[09:52] <_Therock> i will msg you :)
[09:52] <tux666> ubu,do you have linux partitions on your hdd?
[09:52] <lydia_> okay
[09:52] <_Therock> check your private
[09:52] <tux666> if so you can add them to your fstab file
[09:53] <lydia_> i cant
[09:53] <lydia_> i cant anwser back
[09:53] <lydia_> cause im not registered
[09:53] <ubuntu> tux666: i have only 2 mechanics and no hdd. but when i connect hdd i can't open it.
[09:54] <zorglu_> !regiter | lydia_
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regiter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <zorglu_> hue
[09:54] <stdin> _Therock: you can do "/ns set UNFILTERED on" to receive messages from unregistered users
[09:54] <zorglu_> !register | lydia_
[09:54] <ubotu> lydia_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:54] <_Therock> ah
[09:54] <tux666> ubu,what is a mechanic???
[09:55] <zorglu_> dah it was a typo :)
[09:55] <_Therock> well bugga then lydia
[09:55] <lydia_> i cant see it uboto
[09:55] <lydia_> ;)
[09:55] <ubuntu> tux666:  CD/dvd rom
[09:55] <lydia_> cant brose anything
[09:55] <_Therock> well im not that much into kubuntu yet
[09:55] <lydia_> kubuntu is great except for surfing ont the net i guess
[09:56] <binks> anyone no if linux MCE will install in fiesty if so is there a howto
[09:56] <tux666> ubu,it looks like you have a problem with your hdd.Did you check your bios and see if your hdd is listed there?
[09:57] <lydia_> the BIOS masters are here.
[09:57] <lydia_> lol
[09:57] <tux666> lolz
[09:57] <binks> !linuxmce
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxmce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <lydia_> where are the Kbnt mastaz
[10:01] <lydia_> is that normal my telent is closed by the client?
[10:01] <lydia_> and that i get ping timeout when lanching the connect command
[10:01] <tux666> http://wiki.linuxmce.com/index.php/Version_1_1
[10:02] <tux666> it says linuxmce runs on kubuntu
[10:04] <ubuntu> tux666: i don't connect my hdd now.
[10:05] <lydia_> i guess ill check this out one the ubuntu french forums tomotrrow at work
[10:05] <lydia_> thanks all thouh
[10:07] <tux666> ubu,did you connect your hdd?are you able to see your partitions?or do you have any?
[10:07] <lydia_> what do you want to do ubu
[10:07] <tux666> exactly!
[10:09] <ubuntu> tux666: i have 2 paritions and when i connect my hdd i see my 2 partition but i can't open it. how i open it? error says some about mount.
[10:10] <dhq> i just upgraded my grafix gard to gforce now what do i do for my adapter
[10:10] <dhq> i mean drivers
[10:10] <BluesKaj> binks, I checked out linux MCE and it looks to me like you need Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy , not kubuntu , plus alot of bluetooth stuff to make it all work
[10:10] <binks> yep just worked that out looks like a vdr install then wow here we go
[10:11] <tux666> what partitions are they?I had problems with ntfs partitions before.It was because of faulty mbr's
[10:12] <minty_> hey can any1 help me wiht xmms?
[10:12] <lydia_> the same with me tux
[10:12] <BluesKaj> ubuntu , what app are you using to look at your partitions
[10:12] <lydia_> but i cant help you
[10:13] <BluesKaj> what's the prob, minty_?
[10:13] <minty_> like i only just started using ubuntu/kubuntu etc linux
[10:13] <minty_> n im shit at it
[10:13] <minty_> i downloaded xmms
[10:13] <minty_> but it says error wen i try to configure it
[10:13] <tux666> @lydia,I used a recovery cd to fix the partition,then recovered all the files and formatted it to ext3 for good
[10:14] <BluesKaj> look for an app called amarok in the kmenu, it's much better than xmms
[10:14] <minty_> yta i knwo
[10:14] <minty_> but its shit
[10:15] <minty_> keeps lagging when i chasnge songs n that
[10:15] <rob__> hey
[10:15] <minty_> rele rele annoying
[10:15] <BluesKaj> minty_, you can install xmms with adept pkg manager
[10:15] <hjacob> I want to downgrade wine(i installed via aptitude from their repos, meaning I have the newest version 0.9.37.) how would i do that? preferably using aptitude or apt-get
[10:15] <ubuntu> tux666: yes it is NTFS
[10:16] <ubuntu> tux666: linux can't read NTFS anf FAT yes.
[10:16] <SlimeyPete> it can read and write both.
[10:17] <tux666> did you try ntfs 3g package .It can mount ntfs partitions automatically.If it says errors about the partition ,then you need to boot into your windows,check for errors and try again
[10:17] <hjacob> ubuntu: FAT32 is read/write able by default, NTFS requires a driver.
[10:17] <minty_> gd point
[10:17] <lydia_> sp thats why i couldnt run a floppy i made at work with xp
[10:17] <lydia_> ?
[10:18] <minty_> will i get the hang of konsole n all that terminal stuff eventually
[10:18] <UKESN|Javax> warsow 0.3 released !!! hurrah!
[10:18] <hjacob> lydia: depends on the fs of the floppy, as well as the data on it
[10:19] <lydia_> the data was the deb i used to install my modem
[10:19] <lydia_> ^^
[10:19] <lydia_> and i still cant browse!
[10:19] <lydia_> grrr
[10:19] <jhutchins> lydia_: Did you get firefox installed?
[10:19] <lydia_> nope
[10:19] <lydia_> and i cant find it
[10:20] <ubuntu> tux666: so my windows is crashed a few days ago. do U think, some package it will be ok for open my hdd?
[10:20] <tux666> well there are packages to fix fat32 maybe but ntfs support is still sketchy
[10:21] <tux666> so probably you need to fix your ntfs partitions somehow
[10:21] <ubuntu> tux666:  ok thx very much :)
[10:22] <tux666> ubuntu,there are lot of bootable harddisk recovery softwares available
[10:22] <tux666> try hiren's boot cd
[10:22] <buz> is there anything at all i can do if suspend to disk aborts because swsusp cant free enough memory (i got 1G)
[10:22] <buz> (besides the obvious case of closing apps)
[10:23] <jhutchins> buz: Increase swap?
[10:23] <buz> i already have 2G of swap
[10:23] <jhutchins> Maybe DECREASE it.
[10:23] <lydia_> lol
[10:23] <jhutchins> 2g is a bit extreme.
[10:23] <lydia_> 2 G!
[10:24] <tux666> 2G @
[10:24] <tux666> !!
[10:24] <lydia_> depends on the ram
[10:24] <buz> well the idea was to go to 2G ram in a few weeks
[10:24] <lydia_> but still big i guess
[10:24] <lydia_> buz
[10:24] <tux666> yes but still too much swap acts adversely
[10:24] <lydia_> thats nit the way it goes!
[10:24] <buz> try with 1G swap?
[10:24] <lydia_> too much swap fu**x the HD
[10:24] <tux666> it shouldn't exceed 1 GB
[10:24] <buz> that worked on my old 768mb notebook
[10:24] <buz> lydia_: no it won't, i run it with swappiness=0 anyhow
[10:25] <jaims> hi all
[10:25] <buz> if i do close some apps, suspend does work
[10:25] <buz> so i guess it's a physical memory thing?
[10:26] <lydia_> humm that passive connection...
[10:26] <lydia_> argh
[10:26] <lydia_> nobody is full of science regarding the networks here?
[10:29] <jhutchins> lydia_: Yeah, network engineer.  Your earlier problem isn't with networking, it's with konq.
[10:29] <lydia_> i managed to dl firefox right now
[10:29] <lydia_> :)
[10:29] <skane> nick skane
[10:30] <jhutchins> great!
[10:30] <skane> new nick skane
[10:30] <frojnd> what's the package name that has all tools for compile?
[10:30] <jhutchins> skane: So we see.
[10:30] <lydia_> firefox 2.0.03 is that it?
[10:30] <Mittel> register <password>
[10:30] <radioaktivstorm> hello, my logout menu no longer has options for shutdown, restart and change user. has anyone encountered this and can someone give me pointers on how to fix?
[10:30] <lydia_> hummm
[10:30] <lydia_> it freezes ...
[10:31] <Mittel> register Mittel
[10:31] <jhutchins> I suspect you may not haev a great connection.  I assume you've tried dropping it and reconnecting.
[10:31] <BluesKaj> radioaktivstorm,  ctrl-alt-backspace and re-login
[10:31] <jhutchins> !info mozilla-firefox
[10:31] <lydia_> got it!
[10:31] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 57 kB, installed size 116 kB
[10:31] <jhutchins> lydia_: That's the current one in the repo's.
[10:32] <lydia_> YEAH
[10:32] <lydia_> OMG
[10:32] <skane> ...
[10:32] <lydia_> lol
[10:32] <skane> heh
[10:32] <radioaktivstorm> BluesKaj, thanks ill try that.
[10:32] <yanick> excuse me does somebody knows how to disable a soundcard permently under kubuntu?
[10:33] <jhutchins> !find inttypes.h
[10:33] <jhutchins> yanick: Blacklist the driver.
[10:33] <yanick> how do I do that please?
[10:33] <jhutchins> yanick: Do you know what driver it uses?
[10:33] <ubotu> File inttypes.h found in avr-libc, dietlibc-dev, gcc-snapshot, kvirc-dev, libace-dev (and 21 others)
[10:34] <lydia_> HAHAHA
[10:34] <lydia_> THANKS ALL
[10:34] <lydia_> im officially a newbie now
[10:34] <jhutchins> lydia_: So, it's like working now?
[10:34] <yanick> ummm Kmix is telling me the current mixer is SIS SI7012   .  which is the driver for my AC97 card i don't wanna use
[10:35] <jhutchins> yanick: Ok, check lsmod and see that that's the drier name, add it to /etc/mod... hang on a sec...
[10:35] <lydia_> perfectly working
[10:35] <yanick> ok
[10:35] <radioaktivstorm> ok ctrl +alt+Backspace didn't seem to fix the problem
[10:35] <lydia_> im gonna reboot to see about the automatic connection
[10:35] <lydia_> thanks again all
[10:35] <lydia_> ciao
[10:35] <jhutchins> yanick: Ok, check lsmod and see that that's the drier name, add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:36] <yanick> what is ismod?
[10:36] <jaims> lsmod
[10:37] <jaims> returns a list of all modules loaded i think
[10:37] <yanick> i don't know much about linux yet so how do i accecc ismod?
[10:37] <jaims> through konsole
[10:37] <jaims> if u are in kde, gnome-terminal in gnome
[10:38] <jaims> are u using gnome?
[10:38] <yanick> kde
[10:38] <jaims> k
[10:38] <Cosmo__> maybe I am just missing it, but is there someplace I can switch between my USB headset and the speakers connected to my sound card as far as my sound output?
[10:38] <BluesKaj> radioaktivstorm, how did you login , generic or safe ?
[10:38] <jaims> alt+f2 and type konsole
[10:38] <jhutchins> jaims: Correct.
[10:38] <BluesKaj> the first time
[10:38] <jaims> in konsole u type lsmod
[10:38] <jhutchins> Cosmo__: Oughta be an option in the mixer.
[10:39] <jaims> lsmod | grep whatyourelookingfor
[10:39] <radioaktivstorm> generic.
[10:39] <radioaktivstorm> i am trying reconfig of kdm now
[10:39] <jhutchins> yanick: Sorry, multitasking.  Jaims is correct.
[10:39] <radioaktivstorm> hopefully that might work
[10:39] <radioaktivstorm> brb
[10:39] <BluesKaj> radioaktivstorm, have you installed anything since you logged in ?
[10:40] <JP_P_home> hello
[10:40] <JP_P_home> need help to configure raki for synchronizing my smartphone
[10:40] <radioaktivstorm> BluesKaj, nope. but i did just run dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[10:40] <jaims> i'm trying the beryl stuff
[10:40] <jaims> never wanted to give it a try till now
[10:41] <jaims> i'm impressed
[10:41] <JP_P_home> i manage to connecte the smartphone, but when it sync it sync with nothing
[10:41] <radioaktivstorm> i think the problem started when i accidentally opened desktop-effects from gnome under kde then reset my kde profile.
[10:42] <BluesKaj> ok radioaktivstorm , you need to reboot , do the 3 finger linux saute again and this time choose restart from the login menu
[10:42] <BluesKaj> salute
[10:43] <yanick> arghh  gee thats hard alright.  I can'T figure out which module is my sound driver
[10:43] <yanick> i'm trying to delete that driver because each time I boot kmix is always taking a guess about which driver to use so I end up with no sound when the SIS driver is picked..
[10:45] <yanick> I may try to disable in the bios instead.  Is there a way to enter the bios under an OS or I have to reboot?
[10:45] <montoya> Riddell:
[10:46] <BluesKaj> yanick , you can turn off a souncard in the BIOS peripherals in windows , but I don't know if it works in linux
[10:47] <Cosmo__> ok in Kmix I think I set it to my USB headset, but it is still outputting the sound to my speakers
[10:48] <yanick> funny is thing is that my motherboard is evil about the bios. I don't have a load screen so no time to press Del to enter it.  so I,ve got a hell of a time disabling my ac97
[10:48] <yanick> somebody got the same type of motherboard like me?
[10:48] <yanick> :P
[10:49] <BluesKaj> yanick hold down F1 or F2 when the pc is booting
[10:49] <ads_> looking for a good guide on how to control ssh users i.e monitor disconnect etc  basically administrating ssh   pls
[10:49] <radioaktivstorm> BluesKaj, Brilliant! it works! :) i love linux....if it ever breaks, it can be fixed :D ciao all!
[10:50] <radioaktivstorm> thanks for all the help
[10:50] <BluesKaj> hey NP radioaktivstorm :)
[10:50] <yanick> ok thanks i'll go try that out :P
[10:55] <ads_> any1 know how i can disconenct shh users from my machine?
[10:55] <ads_> pls
[10:56] <tsdgeos> ads_: kill the ssh daemon?
[10:56] <jaims> bye all
[10:57] <premier_> hello, kde seems to have broken png support for me... is there a package I need to install?
[10:57] <ads_> no i want to keep ssh running
[10:57] <ads_> just kill usr pls
[11:05] <BluesKaj> premier_, look in synaptic, there some png pkgs available there that may help .
[11:06] <Sergo> hello, what X widget toolkit does kubuntu use
[11:10] <scanman> selam trk var m
[11:10] <_arafat> sik ta lan!
[11:11] <BluesKaj> !tr
[11:11] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:11] <scanman> arafat sana birey yazarm anadan girer slalenden karm
[11:12] <scanman> trke yardm diyorsundA kimse yokki orda birben varm q.k
[11:12] <keen> was bedeutet die meldung: E: Konnte Paket wpa_supplicant nicht finden?
[11:12] <keen> hallo erstmal
[11:14] <BluesKaj> !de | keen,
[11:14] <ubotu> keen,: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:15] <BluesKaj> hmm, germans have no patience :)
[11:16] <sercik> hi to all! i love kubuntu
[11:17] <TheInfinity> sercik: nice way to say hello :)
[11:17] <sercik> Hi TheInfinity! this channel is good like kubuntu
[11:18] <TheInfinity> i think most of the users here do so *g*
[11:18] <sercik> i think that all people could love linux and kubuntu also with the help of great people here
[11:18] <jtmoney> i've noticed that there have not been any updates for a while... is adept possibly broken on my computer, or has ubuntu really not released any updates in the past few days?
[11:18] <sercik> TheInfinity: sure!!
[11:19] <SlimeyPete> jtmoney: I haven't noticed any either, and I use synaptic.
[11:19] <sercik> i'm trying to install win98 under qemu speed is impressive
[11:19] <jthomas> jtmoney: i agree but there have been a few; i was worried but i got some at work today and a few more at home last week.  i think its just stable right now
[11:19] <TheInfinity> jthomas: if you have feisty: there are not so much updates at the moment
[11:19] <jthomas> jtm
[11:19] <TheInfinity> and the bugs which exist have to be traced ...
[11:20] <jtmoney> alright, thanks
[11:20] <jtmoney> also, i've checked ~/.kde/Autostart and there is nothing in it, but gaim always launches when i start up kubuntu, and my volume settings are never saved. possibly related?
[11:21] <sercik> TheInfinity: qhat do you think about feisty?? i think is not the best ubuntu out here!
[11:23] <TheInfinity> sercik: it has a vpnc bug which is already assigned and will be updated soon - and the configuration of my soundcard is still crap - but everything else works :)
[11:23] <kilrae> feisty has good beryl-ness :P
[11:23] <kilrae> is it just me or have there been no feisty updates?
[11:23] <sercik> also i have problem with soundcard (sudigy) the sound is crap and then the system is slow i con't like it
[11:23] <TheInfinity> there where only updates in multiverse and some 3rd parity deb sources
[11:24] <TheInfinity> sercik: I have a Audigy2 NX - its an USB 2 soundcard
[11:24] <TheInfinity> thats real fun ;)
[11:24] <sercik> wow!! i have read out there that version 2.6 kernel is not so good and every release add some bugs
[11:24] <kilrae> with edgy there were updates to ignore practically every day, but since i installed feisty two weeks ago there haven't been any
[11:25] <TheInfinity> does anybody know a way to activate dmix plugin for internal intel and external usb2 soundcard? :)
[11:25] <sercik> in dapper and edgy i heve noone problem with my supported audigy
[11:25] <kilrae> that and the fact the kdm seems to need me to enter my password twice have me worried
[11:26] <jtmoney> kilrae: you can try enabling autologin... is the second password request for kwallet?
[11:26] <jtmoney> kilrae: also, i've noticed there haven't been any updates
[11:27] <jtmoney> heh, i thought i was talking in #ubuntu for the last line
[11:27] <uko> hey
[11:28] <sercik> Hi Admiral_Chicago!
[11:28] <kilrae> jtmoney: no, i seem to get a wrong password notice everytime i try to login, i have a tortuous pass, but it just seems odd to mistype it EVERY first time and get it right every second time
[11:34] <groi> tr
[11:35] <slicknick_> yall able to pull up CIFS shares with Konqueror ?
[11:35] <slicknick_> every time i try to cif:/ it throws a locate: in front
[11:35] <slicknick_> cifs
[11:37] <binks> !vdr
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vdr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <slicknick_> !vifs
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <slicknick_> !cifs
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <binks> anyone no what to do if i start vdr i get this error   vdr: please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR
[11:38] <slicknick_> did you search google
[11:40] <binks> me did i google
[11:40] <jhutchins_lt> binks: Should be in the docs.
[11:40] <rob__> have anybody tried kubuntu on ps3
[11:40] <binks> how doi change my character set from LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
[11:40] <jhutchins_lt> slicknick_: Does smb: work for cifs?
[11:40] <guillermo> hello
[11:40] <binks> and what whould i set it to
[11:41] <guillermo> how can i install the newset driver for my graphic card?
[11:41] <slicknick_> jhutchins: yes i can access the shares with smb. so i guess i dont udnerstand smbFS/ciFS? like ummm... whats the diff. between the two
[11:41] <Graham> guillermo: What's your graphis card?
[11:42] <guillermo> Ati as far as i remeber
[11:42] <guillermo> geforce 1900
[11:42] <guillermo> 256
[11:42] <jhutchins_lt> slicknick_: The difference for me is I found enough documentation to get samba working with smb, never found anything on cifs.
[11:42] <Graham> Wtf?
[11:42] <Graham> Dude Geforeces are nvidia, find out FOR CERTAIN what card you have.
[11:42] <slicknick_> lol
[11:42] <Graham> lspci may help.
[11:43] <Graham> slicknick_: CIFs never worked for me, has to use smb.
[11:43] <guillermo> lspci i am new in linux (today) but i guess that is a line that should be run on the terminal
[11:43] <jhutchins_lt> guillermo: Yeah, you will want to know what lspci thinks it is.
[11:43] <jhutchins_lt> guillermo: You will go far.  Yes.
[11:43] <guillermo> let me check
[11:43] <Graham> guillermo: Oh if you're new today I'll cut you some slack :)
[11:43] <guillermo> i dont know how i waited so much to leave windows
[11:43] <Graham> I gave my friend Kubuntu, got it internet working, gave him beryl and everything, he was dead impressed.
[11:44] <rob__> what is an easy way to install beryl
[11:44] <Graham> guillermo: Paste the outpt of lspci into #lf_flood
[11:44] <rob__> ?
[11:44] <binks> i set ,, export LANG=en_GB.UTF  but vdr still complains im utf-8
[11:44] <guillermo> yeah i got 2 interesting here they go
[11:45] <guillermo> 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] 
[11:45] <guillermo> 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]  (Seconda
[11:45] <jhutchins_lt> !se | guillermo
[11:45] <ubotu> guillermo: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[11:45] <guillermo> how the f? you knew i am swedish?
[11:45] <Graham> Congratulations, you're using ATI, which is bad because ATI support is shit, nevertheless it'll work.
[11:45] <guillermo> what should i get then?
[11:46] <Graham> ATI drivers.
[11:46] <guillermo> lol!
[11:46] <guillermo> i meant what kind of grahic card is the best?
[11:46] <guillermo> nividia worked fine in windows
[11:46] <Graham> Well that's like asking if you like anal or oral, it's personal oppinion.
[11:46] <jhutchins_lt> guillermo: I think the xorg drivers work fine for the 9600
[11:46] <guillermo> i was thinking about putting out some money to a new computer, but with kubuntu i dont think i need that
[11:46] <Graham> Nividia is generally better on Linux.
[11:47] <Graham> I think, like nvidia ones, they can be found in the repository, which drivers they are I'm not sure.
[11:47] <guillermo> i am gona check on adept for xorg
[11:47] <Graham> guillermo: Don't bother, you're running x already :)
[11:47] <jhutchins_lt> On the other hand, ATI makes regular commits to the OS drivers, and they supply drivers for Mac which are easy to port.
[11:48] <guillermo> i am running what?
[11:48] <Graham> guillermo: You're not running a 64bit system are you?
[11:48] <jhutchins_lt> guillermo: You're running xorg.
[11:48] <guillermo> i searched on dept for xorg and i got a millons answers
[11:48] <jhutchins_lt> guillermo: Yeah, xorg pretty much is the GUI you're using, all the parts of it.
[11:48] <guillermo> oh no, i am on a amd athlon +1900 1600 GHz that is 32 bit right?
[11:49] <Graham> Did you install the 64bit version of Kubuntu?
[11:49] <jhutchins_lt> guillermo: Yes, that is 32 bit.
[11:49] <guillermo> well coz i was watching a video, and it is slow
[11:49] <jhutchins_lt> guillermo: Which player?
[11:49] <guillermo> i used vlc
[11:49] <guillermo> and amorok
[11:50] <guillermo> koffeine did not evn opened it
[11:50] <jhutchins_lt> guillermo: Might try mplayer.
[11:50] <guillermo> it complainde about it being mpeg
[11:50] <guillermo> mplayer it is
[11:51] <Graham> guillermo: I think, like nvidia ones, they can be found in the repository, which drivers they are
[11:51] <Graham> guillermo: It might be slow because you've not got the graphics drivers installed.
[11:51] <SlimG2> When I resize images in krita they tend to get a 1px wide transparent vertical line at the right side, why? what am i doing wrong or how could I fix it?
[11:51] <Graham> My favourite video player is Kaffeine.
[11:51] <Graham> Integrates rather nicely into KDE :)
[11:52] <guillermo> kaffeine does it complains with anyformat?
[11:52] <Graham> Kaffeine will play any format you have codecs for.
[11:52] <guillermo> how do i install the graphic drivers?
[11:52] <jhutchins_lt> !ati | guillermo
[11:52] <ubotu> guillermo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:54] <Graham> You can get them from the repository, search Add/Remove programs and search "Ubuntu restricted" should show up in the misc category.
[11:54] <guillermo> i am gonna chech that side up
[11:54] <Graham> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:54] <guillermo> man i love this shit.
[11:54] <Graham> That's the ATI thingy.
[11:54] <guillermo> 25 minuts of isntall, and chat suport
[11:54] <Graham> Welcome to the world of Linux :)
[11:55] <Graham> Installing Linux is like... cleansing your soul of sin, only instead of your soul it's your hard drive, and instead of sin it's windows, but those last 2 are easy to confuse.
[11:55] <guillermo> lol!!!
[11:56] <ardchoille> lol
[12:03] <maass_> haw i can play 3gp files ?
[12:04] <maass_> hlooooooooo
[12:04] <vmuser> hi...what is the command to check if i have kernel heards installed?
[12:05] <angelripper> maass_: u can use the vlc player
[12:05] <jhutchins_lt> maass_: Never heard of it before, but there are at least convertors.  I suppose I'd try playing with vlc and mplayer, then look for convertors.
[12:05] <starkruzr> hi.  I installed ubuntu at first, then installed kubuntu-desktop later.  why is it that a) beryl-manager no longer automatically starts when I login under KDE and b) when I start it myself, I lose my window bars?
[12:06] <angelripper> maass_: for convert it just use mencoder (mencoder -idx input.3gp -oac mp3lame -ovc lavc -o output.avi)
[12:07] <jhutchins_lt> starkruzr: Because beryl is built for gnome, and isn't anywhere near ready for release yet.
[12:07] <starkruzr> hell.  really?
[12:07] <starkruzr> so I can just expect it to not work?
[12:08] <jhutchins_lt> Yes.
[12:08] <starkruzr> but K is so pretty, dammit.
[12:08] <jhutchins_lt> However, you might very well be able to get it working, many people have.
[12:08] <rob__> how to apt-get beryl on kubuntu
[12:09] <starkruzr> jhutchins_lt: any clues as to how I can find how that works?
[12:09] <word> jhutchins_lt: built for gnome? Beryl has nearly nothing to do with gnome it probably won't work any better or worrse
[12:09] <The_Un-Named> I believe you can get beryl by just installing it through the package manager, rob__
[12:09] <rob__> ok
[12:09] <jhutchins_lt> word: If you say so.
[12:09] <starkruzr> word: any advice?
[12:09] <jhutchins_lt> !beryl
[12:09] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:09] <word> starkruzr: you should probably check in #beryl they see many common problems very frequently no window borders is one of them go in there and explain your symptoms
[12:10] <starkruzr> okay.
[12:10] <starkruzr> gracias.
[12:10] <jhutchins_lt> word: #beryl should probably be added to the bot.
[12:10] <word> probably...I wouldn't know how to do that though
[12:11] <jhutchins_lt> word: It was built with the intent of using it with gnome, which I think it inhereted from compiz.  You can get kde working with it, but there are frequent problems.
[12:12] <word> jhutchins_lt: other than it getting my processor up to 64 degrees C when running games (VERY poor HSF) i've had no problems i couldn't solve except for the rare crash, that resulted in it being reverted to kdm momentarily until i restarted beryl
[12:12] <word> jhutchins_lt: i've seen similar results with gnome