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TeTeTto register a branch with my lp account, should 'bzr push sftp://tspindler@code.launchpad.net/~tspindler/PROJECT/BRANCH' suffice?12:55
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radixTeTeT: code? hmm, I always use 'bazaar.launchpad.net', although maybe it's the same as 'code.launchpad.net'01:02
TeTeTradix: thanks, bazaar works01:02
jmlcode probably won't work01:10
thumpercode definitely won't01:12
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TeTeTso code is only for d/l and bazaar is used for read/write access?01:20
jmlTeTeT: right. code.lp.net serves the branches over http and bazaar.lp.net serves branches over sftp01:21
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tjsis there any way to get push notifications for launchpad branches to email/irc/anything?01:22
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jmltjs: just subscribe to the branch01:24
tjsjml: ah01:25
tjscheers01:25
jmltjs: that'll give you email. I haven't heard of any IRC bots yet.01:25
jml(although it would be nice to have one)01:25
LaserJockthere are a number of email -> irc bots I should think01:26
TeTeTI guess I understood the bzr tutorial wrong. I first did a bzr init, then bzr push. Now lp states that this is not a branch01:26
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tjsLaserJock: yeh but given most sane projects are on freenode it would be handy if launchpad provided a single bot, and allowed projects or teams to add an irc channel to their project or team for the bot to join (on freenode), you could then subscribe the bot to a branch for a given channel01:31
tjssaves every project hosting their own email->irc bot01:31
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ubotuNew bug: #114710 in launchpad-answers "Allow to post comments which are not information requests or answers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11471001:51
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jmlmpt: look at this bad text! https://code.launchpad.net/~jml/bzr/bug-support05:39
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dabaRHey! On the bugs page, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ I can see the last 5 bugs. How can I see the last 20, or 50, and so on?06:13
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mptdabaR, https://launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?orderby=-datecreated06:18
mptwhich I got to by clicking "Search" on that page06:18
mptand then changing the sort order and clicking "Search" again06:19
dabaRTHank you.06:20
dabaRmpt.06:20
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ubotuNew bug: #114736 in launchpad "login password problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11473607:20
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jameshthumper: reviewers meeting?07:38
thumperjamesh: two minutes, just finishing salgado's review07:38
jameshsure.07:38
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thumperjamesh: back and ready07:40
jamesh * Roll call07:40
jamesh * Next meeting07:40
jamesh * Queue status.07:40
jamesh * Urgent review requests (lifeless for .au)07:40
jamesh * New reviewers (lifeless for .au)07:40
thumperhere :)07:41
jameshme too.07:41
jameshfor the next meeting, is the normal time okay?07:41
thumperjamesh: what is the normal time?07:41
jameshthat'd be 21st May, 0600 - 0645 UTC07:41
thumperhow about 5 UTC?07:42
thumperas that is 5pm here07:42
thumper6 UTC is 6pm07:42
thumperwho else normally attends apart from AU and NZ?07:42
BjornThi07:43
jameshoften we've got Bjorn at the review meeting (since he can easily go to both)07:43
thumperhi BjornT07:43
jameshso going earlier could be a problem for him07:43
thumperjamesh: are the review meetings normally long or short?07:43
thumpera short meeting at 6 would be ok07:43
jameshthumper: usually short.07:43
thumperok, let's stay at six then and I'll see how it goes07:44
jamesh* Queue status07:44
jameshwe've got 7 branches in the red, and 5 not07:44
jameshwhich isn't too great07:45
thumperno07:45
jameshbut I guess the branches going through new reviewers have a bit of extra latency due to the re-review07:45
thumperthere is one really old one07:46
thumpermpt notices this07:46
jameshBjornT: can you check to see how bac and statik are going on their branches?07:46
BjornTjamesh: sure07:47
jameshthumper: that branch can't be approved by anyone other than kiko or SteveA07:47
thumperjamesh: yeah, we know07:47
thumpermpt is here (just in case you didn't realise)07:47
jameshah :)07:47
jameshthumper: how have you found doing reviews so far?07:48
thumpertime consuming07:48
thumpercontext switching hasn't been too bad07:48
thumperI'm definitily in favour of smaller branches07:48
jameshwell, we had a few reviewers unavailable recently (UDS, etc), so we should be able to spread them better now07:49
thumperjamesh: it is good to see more code though07:49
thumperwe are currently going through designing the review process for lp07:50
thumperso if you have any particular comments or suggestions, feel free to bring them up07:50
jameshBjornT: at the .eu meeting, tell statik to reject his second review if he won't be able to complete it in reasonable time07:51
jameshso it can be reallocated07:51
BjornTjamesh: ok07:51
jameshokay.  Does anyone have anything else they want to bring up?07:52
thumperjust the afore mentioned design work07:52
BjornTthumper: as for suggestions for the review process in lp, it'd be nice to be able to review branches via e-mail, and not have to use the web interface.07:52
jameshthumper: you might want to look through the launchpad-development-infrastructure bugs for things people have wanted07:53
thumperok, cool07:53
jameshI guess that's about it then.07:54
jameshmeeting ends.07:54
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=== Topic for #launchpad: Launchpad 1.0, https://launchpad.net/ | Next user meeting: Wed 16 May, 0800UTC | Next developer meeting: Thu 03 May 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39
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ubotuNew bug: #114746 in Ubuntu "unable to install Ubuntu 7.04 on Compaq V6320" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11474609:25
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carlosmorning09:52
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cprovgood morning !10:34
ubotuNew bug: #114753 in launchpad "Launchpad thinks that we have no female contributors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11475310:41
Hobbseeheh.  that's a dupe10:41
ajmitchfemales? that's a novel concept10:54
Hobbseethey dont exist on the interweb.10:54
ajmitchexactly10:55
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ubotuNew bug: #114763 in malone "View for approving many nominations at once" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11476311:25
ubotuNew bug: #114766 in malone "Only bug contacts should be able to nominate a bug for a release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11476611:35
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raphinkhello11:51
raphinkhow do I ask for a group to be used as a translation group for a language on rosetta?11:51
kikoraphink, just make a case for it to any Rosetta developer -- carlos or danilo or jtv11:56
raphinkok11:56
raphinkthanks11:56
carlosraphink: we have a request pending11:56
kikoI can set one up if you need it11:56
carlosraphink: did you send it?11:56
carloskiko: don't worry, I will handle it11:56
raphinkI sent a ticket to give info on the countries where papiamento is spoken11:56
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raphinknow I'd like the papiamento group (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-pap) to be added as the official translation team for this language11:57
raphinkcarlos: https://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/662911:58
raphinkthis is the ticket about the countries where papiamento is spoken11:58
kikoI saw that!12:00
raphinkjust added info to it 12:00
raphink:)12:00
raphinkshall I open a new ticket for the translation group too?12:00
carlosraphink: ok12:00
carlosraphink: did you create the ubuntu team?12:01
raphinkyes carlos12:01
raphinkI'm the admin of it12:01
carlosraphink: oh, right12:01
carlossorry, I didn't see the link you pasted12:01
carlosno need to file the ticket12:01
raphinkok12:01
carlosI'm going to do it right now12:01
raphinkI'm not a fluent papiamento speaker myself, but I would like to encourage translations in this language12:01
kikoraphink, what is papiamento like?12:02
raphinkI might transfer the leadership of the gruop to a native speaker if the translations start seriously12:02
raphinkkiko: it's a creole language12:02
raphinkmixing spanish, portuguese, french, english, dutch12:02
kikoraphink, so a fusion?12:02
raphinkand arawak indian12:02
kikoright12:02
raphinkhttp://www.extrabon.com/12:03
raphinkthis is a newspaper in papiamento12:03
raphinkfrom Bonaire12:03
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Hobbseeyay, a reply on a malone bug :)12:07
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kikoraphink, that's amazing. I can almost understand it!12:10
raphinksure12:10
raphinkkiko: I discovered papiamento (it's one of my wife's mother tongues) not long after studying esperanto and ido12:10
raphinkand I found that it was very close 12:10
jtvDidn't it start out as a pidgin of Portuguese?12:11
raphinkthis language mixes so many european languages that it naturally gets to sound like a constructed european language12:11
raphinkyes jtv, that's what wikipedia says12:11
pooliehello all12:11
raphinkbut the netherlands antilles have been occupied by the spaniards, the french, the english and eventually the dutch12:11
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raphinkwhy in shame?12:12
raphinkhi poolie12:12
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raphinkhehe I see ;)12:13
raphinkjtv: I was wondering if I could maybe hire some papiamento translators on #ubuntu-nl12:13
raphinkannouncing the team to try and find papiamento speakers12:13
raphink;)12:13
poolieand the spanish invaded the netherlands, at some point12:13
pooliehard to imagine12:13
jtvpoolie: IIRC the Spanish sort of married into the place, but got into trouble there for raising taxes and standardizing on catholicism12:14
kikothere's nothing wrong with taxes and catholicism!!12:20
Hobbseemmm....taxes12:20
Hobbseenothing wrong with taxes, as long as they're payable to me.12:20
kikommmm... catholic schoolgirls12:20
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kikoai12:20
raphinkthank you carlos12:20
gnomefreakLp is down?12:20
kikognomefreak, worksforme but beta appears to be down.12:21
gnomefreakyeah im using beta and it looks down. thank you :)12:21
kikomost welcome12:23
kikoHobbsee, that was a chili peppers reference though.12:23
Hobbseekiko: really now?12:23
kikoyeah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_School_Girls_Rule12:24
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jtvkiko: not to the film, "Catholic Schoolgirls (Heaven Help Us)"?12:24
Hobbseekiko: i see, i see...12:24
carlosraphink: you are welcome (sorry, I got a phone call and was not able to notify you that I added the team)12:26
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raphinkno problem :)12:26
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kikopopey!12:57
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popey;)12:58
kikowhere are francis and curtis???12:58
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ubotuNew bug: #114791 in launchpad-bazaar "'Browse code' link doesn't work after reassigning the branch registrant" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11479102:25
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ubotuNew bug: #114796 in launchpad "Login form should remember email address after failed login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11479603:15
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Ngdoes lp know anything about the changelogs for a new version of some package it's built?03:46
Ngby which I mean, if I'm looking at a package in LP, can I get the changelog without finding it on changelogs.ubuntu.com?03:48
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sabdflNg: should be able to, yes04:34
Ngsabdfl: ok I must be blind then, I'll poke around. thanks.04:36
sabdflNg url of your package?04:36
Ngsabdfl: I was looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/i386/linux-image-2.6.22-3-generic/2.6.22-3.904:37
HobbseeNg: yes you can, but it's not intuitive, and i'm not sure it shows the full changelog.04:37
Hobbseetake the version number out of that at the end, and look in the left panel, iirc04:38
Hobbseeoh wait04:39
HobbseeNg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/linux-source-2.6.2204:39
HobbseeNg: found from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22 and clicking on the release04:40
Hobbsee(left hand pane on that)04:40
Ngaha04:40
Ngthanks Hobbsee :)04:40
Hobbseebut it's bloody difficult to find, and quicker just to look up changelogs.u.c04:40
Hobbseeor use aptitude changelog foo04:40
=== Hobbsee should really file a bug about that
Hobbseehmmm, seems it is the full changelog now - it used to not include who had actually done it04:41
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AbdulioUnitedhi all07:52
AbdulioUnitedis there someone who had a problem to enable the "desktop effects" with ATI MOBILITY 7500?07:53
AbdulioUnitedTHANKS07:53
Odd_BlokeAbdulioUnited: You're in the wrong place.  You probably want #ubuntu.07:57
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gnomefreakAbdulioUnited: you want #ubuntu-effects08:00
AbdulioUnitedok thanks 08:11
AbdulioUnitedGuys08:11
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Davieyhey ho - how can i register a new team?08:27
salgadoDaviey, https://launchpad.net/people/08:28
Davieythanks08:34
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persiaIs there a mechanism that would allow one to change a bug into a question?  If so, where might I find further information?  If not, against which component should I file a feature request?08:50
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Hobbseepersia: no, none, and it was being discussed at UDS.08:50
persiaHobbsee: Thanks.08:51
bdmurrayI sent an e-mail to a bug and it seems to have disappeared.  Could somebody check on it for me?08:53
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bdmurrayeh, it was my mistake09:21
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keiri am starting a new OSS project, and i'm going to use bzr.09:32
keircan i host it on launchpad?09:32
keiranyone alive09:35
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salgadokeir, sure! please do09:41
keirso launchpad will host the bzr branch also?09:42
keirso at least more than just my computer will have a copy :)09:42
keirideally i'd like a wiki too09:42
keirlike trac09:42
keiri'd much rather have all stuff in one place09:42
salgadoyes, it will host your code/history as well09:42
keirok09:43
keirbut it appears when i register a branch, it wants an external URL09:43
keirwill launchpad pull that then expose it?09:43
salgadokeir, just a second. I know there are a few different ways of setting this up, but I'm not sure about the difference between them09:44
salgadokeir, have you seen https://code.launchpad.net/+about ?09:45
keirah, ok09:46
keiri just don't have an exposed branch, i was hoping to push into launchpad09:47
salgadokeir, I guess this is what you need:09:49
salgado Launchpad also provides hosting for Bazaar branches. First, you need to register a SSH key from your person's page. Click on your name at the top of any Launchpad page when logged in to go to your person's page. To create a hosted branch, use the bzr push command. The destination URL must be of the form:09:49
salgado    sftp://user@bazaar.launchpad.net/~registrant/project/branch 09:49
keiraaah09:49
salgadokeir, I took that from the help section (top left) of https://code.launchpad.net/09:49
keirsalgado, thanks for all the help!09:50
salgadokeir, you're welcome09:51
keirwow, launchpad is slick09:52
keirthough i don't see how i can host generic static pages (i.e. the projects website) on launchpad09:56
keirdo i still require an external url for static pages?09:56
Odd_Blokekeir: I believe so.09:56
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mptGooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!11:16
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ajmitchmorning mpt 11:19
jmlmorning all11:23
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ajmitchhey jml 11:31
ajmitchenjoying NZ? :)11:31
jmlajmitch: yus.11:31
jmlajmitch: Dunedin's a really nice place :)11:32
ajmitchyeah, I just got back to dunedin on monday, a little cooler than sevilla :)11:33
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jmlI can imagine.11:44
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TheSheephello, I was just wondering, anybody uses Opera here?11:51
TheSheepbecause the bug list desn't look too good: http://sheep.art.pl/misc/shot.png11:53
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sabdflyikes12:06
sabdflthat's ugly12:06
sabdflif you can pinpoint the issue, we can fix it, but i don't think anyone here uses opera12:06
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bdmurraylifeless: ping12:12

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