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[12:55] <TeTeT> to register a branch with my lp account, should 'bzr push sftp://tspindler@code.launchpad.net/~tspindler/PROJECT/BRANCH' suffice?
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[01:02] <radix> TeTeT: code? hmm, I always use 'bazaar.launchpad.net', although maybe it's the same as 'code.launchpad.net'
[01:02] <TeTeT> radix: thanks, bazaar works
[01:10] <jml> code probably won't work
[01:12] <thumper> code definitely won't
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[01:20] <TeTeT> so code is only for d/l and bazaar is used for read/write access?
[01:21] <jml> TeTeT: right. code.lp.net serves the branches over http and bazaar.lp.net serves branches over sftp
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[01:22] <tjs> is there any way to get push notifications for launchpad branches to email/irc/anything?
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[01:24] <jml> tjs: just subscribe to the branch
[01:25] <tjs> jml: ah
[01:25] <tjs> cheers
[01:25] <jml> tjs: that'll give you email. I haven't heard of any IRC bots yet.
[01:25] <jml> (although it would be nice to have one)
[01:26] <LaserJock> there are a number of email -> irc bots I should think
[01:26] <TeTeT> I guess I understood the bzr tutorial wrong. I first did a bzr init, then bzr push. Now lp states that this is not a branch
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[01:31] <tjs> LaserJock: yeh but given most sane projects are on freenode it would be handy if launchpad provided a single bot, and allowed projects or teams to add an irc channel to their project or team for the bot to join (on freenode), you could then subscribe the bot to a branch for a given channel
[01:31] <tjs> saves every project hosting their own email->irc bot
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[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #114710 in launchpad-answers "Allow to post comments which are not information requests or answers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114710
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[05:39] <jml> mpt: look at this bad text! https://code.launchpad.net/~jml/bzr/bug-support
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[06:13] <dabaR> Hey! On the bugs page, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ I can see the last 5 bugs. How can I see the last 20, or 50, and so on?
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[06:18] <mpt> dabaR, https://launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?orderby=-datecreated
[06:18] <mpt> which I got to by clicking "Search" on that page
[06:19] <mpt> and then changing the sort order and clicking "Search" again
[06:20] <dabaR> THank you.
[06:20] <dabaR> mpt.
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[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #114736 in launchpad "login password problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114736
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[07:38] <jamesh> thumper: reviewers meeting?
[07:38] <thumper> jamesh: two minutes, just finishing salgado's review
[07:38] <jamesh> sure.
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[07:40] <thumper> jamesh: back and ready
[07:40] <jamesh>  * Roll call
[07:40] <jamesh>  * Next meeting
[07:40] <jamesh>  * Queue status.
[07:40] <jamesh>  * Urgent review requests (lifeless for .au)
[07:40] <jamesh>  * New reviewers (lifeless for .au)
[07:41] <thumper> here :)
[07:41] <jamesh> me too.
[07:41] <jamesh> for the next meeting, is the normal time okay?
[07:41] <thumper> jamesh: what is the normal time?
[07:41] <jamesh> that'd be 21st May, 0600 - 0645 UTC
[07:42] <thumper> how about 5 UTC?
[07:42] <thumper> as that is 5pm here
[07:42] <thumper> 6 UTC is 6pm
[07:42] <thumper> who else normally attends apart from AU and NZ?
[07:43] <BjornT> hi
[07:43] <jamesh> often we've got Bjorn at the review meeting (since he can easily go to both)
[07:43] <thumper> hi BjornT
[07:43] <jamesh> so going earlier could be a problem for him
[07:43] <thumper> jamesh: are the review meetings normally long or short?
[07:43] <thumper> a short meeting at 6 would be ok
[07:43] <jamesh> thumper: usually short.
[07:44] <thumper> ok, let's stay at six then and I'll see how it goes
[07:44] <jamesh> * Queue status
[07:44] <jamesh> we've got 7 branches in the red, and 5 not
[07:45] <jamesh> which isn't too great
[07:45] <thumper> no
[07:45] <jamesh> but I guess the branches going through new reviewers have a bit of extra latency due to the re-review
[07:46] <thumper> there is one really old one
[07:46] <thumper> mpt notices this
[07:46] <jamesh> BjornT: can you check to see how bac and statik are going on their branches?
[07:47] <BjornT> jamesh: sure
[07:47] <jamesh> thumper: that branch can't be approved by anyone other than kiko or SteveA
[07:47] <thumper> jamesh: yeah, we know
[07:47] <thumper> mpt is here (just in case you didn't realise)
[07:47] <jamesh> ah :)
[07:48] <jamesh> thumper: how have you found doing reviews so far?
[07:48] <thumper> time consuming
[07:48] <thumper> context switching hasn't been too bad
[07:48] <thumper> I'm definitily in favour of smaller branches
[07:49] <jamesh> well, we had a few reviewers unavailable recently (UDS, etc), so we should be able to spread them better now
[07:49] <thumper> jamesh: it is good to see more code though
[07:50] <thumper> we are currently going through designing the review process for lp
[07:50] <thumper> so if you have any particular comments or suggestions, feel free to bring them up
[07:51] <jamesh> BjornT: at the .eu meeting, tell statik to reject his second review if he won't be able to complete it in reasonable time
[07:51] <jamesh> so it can be reallocated
[07:51] <BjornT> jamesh: ok
[07:52] <jamesh> okay.  Does anyone have anything else they want to bring up?
[07:52] <thumper> just the afore mentioned design work
[07:52] <BjornT> thumper: as for suggestions for the review process in lp, it'd be nice to be able to review branches via e-mail, and not have to use the web interface.
[07:53] <jamesh> thumper: you might want to look through the launchpad-development-infrastructure bugs for things people have wanted
[07:53] <thumper> ok, cool
[07:54] <jamesh> I guess that's about it then.
[07:54] <jamesh> meeting ends.
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=== Topic for #launchpad: Launchpad 1.0, https://launchpad.net/ | Next user meeting: Wed 16 May, 0800UTC | Next developer meeting: Thu 03 May 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39
=== Topic (#launchpad): set by Kmos at Wed May  2 20:54:23 2007
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[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #114746 in Ubuntu "unable to install Ubuntu 7.04 on Compaq V6320" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114746
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[09:52] <carlos> morning
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[10:34] <cprov> good morning !
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #114753 in launchpad "Launchpad thinks that we have no female contributors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114753
[10:41] <Hobbsee> heh.  that's a dupe
[10:54] <ajmitch> females? that's a novel concept
[10:54] <Hobbsee> they dont exist on the interweb.
[10:55] <ajmitch> exactly
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[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #114763 in malone "View for approving many nominations at once" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114763
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #114766 in malone "Only bug contacts should be able to nominate a bug for a release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114766
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[11:51] <raphink> hello
[11:51] <raphink> how do I ask for a group to be used as a translation group for a language on rosetta?
[11:56] <kiko> raphink, just make a case for it to any Rosetta developer -- carlos or danilo or jtv
[11:56] <raphink> ok
[11:56] <raphink> thanks
[11:56] <carlos> raphink: we have a request pending
[11:56] <kiko> I can set one up if you need it
[11:56] <carlos> raphink: did you send it?
[11:56] <carlos> kiko: don't worry, I will handle it
[11:56] <raphink> I sent a ticket to give info on the countries where papiamento is spoken
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[11:57] <raphink> now I'd like the papiamento group (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-pap) to be added as the official translation team for this language
[11:58] <raphink> carlos: https://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/6629
[11:58] <raphink> this is the ticket about the countries where papiamento is spoken
[12:00] <kiko> I saw that!
[12:00] <raphink> just added info to it 
[12:00] <raphink> :)
[12:00] <raphink> shall I open a new ticket for the translation group too?
[12:00] <carlos> raphink: ok
[12:01] <carlos> raphink: did you create the ubuntu team?
[12:01] <raphink> yes carlos
[12:01] <raphink> I'm the admin of it
[12:01] <carlos> raphink: oh, right
[12:01] <carlos> sorry, I didn't see the link you pasted
[12:01] <carlos> no need to file the ticket
[12:01] <raphink> ok
[12:01] <carlos> I'm going to do it right now
[12:01] <raphink> I'm not a fluent papiamento speaker myself, but I would like to encourage translations in this language
[12:02] <kiko> raphink, what is papiamento like?
[12:02] <raphink> I might transfer the leadership of the gruop to a native speaker if the translations start seriously
[12:02] <raphink> kiko: it's a creole language
[12:02] <raphink> mixing spanish, portuguese, french, english, dutch
[12:02] <kiko> raphink, so a fusion?
[12:02] <raphink> and arawak indian
[12:02] <kiko> right
[12:03] <raphink> http://www.extrabon.com/
[12:03] <raphink> this is a newspaper in papiamento
[12:03] <raphink> from Bonaire
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[12:07] <Hobbsee> yay, a reply on a malone bug :)
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[12:10] <kiko> raphink, that's amazing. I can almost understand it!
[12:10] <raphink> sure
[12:10] <raphink> kiko: I discovered papiamento (it's one of my wife's mother tongues) not long after studying esperanto and ido
[12:10] <raphink> and I found that it was very close 
[12:11] <jtv> Didn't it start out as a pidgin of Portuguese?
[12:11] <raphink> this language mixes so many european languages that it naturally gets to sound like a constructed european language
[12:11] <raphink> yes jtv, that's what wikipedia says
[12:11] <poolie> hello all
[12:11] <raphink> but the netherlands antilles have been occupied by the spaniards, the french, the english and eventually the dutch
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[12:12] <raphink> why in shame?
[12:12] <raphink> hi poolie
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[12:13] <raphink> hehe I see ;)
[12:13] <raphink> jtv: I was wondering if I could maybe hire some papiamento translators on #ubuntu-nl
[12:13] <raphink> announcing the team to try and find papiamento speakers
[12:13] <raphink> ;)
[12:13] <poolie> and the spanish invaded the netherlands, at some point
[12:13] <poolie> hard to imagine
[12:14] <jtv> poolie: IIRC the Spanish sort of married into the place, but got into trouble there for raising taxes and standardizing on catholicism
[12:20] <kiko> there's nothing wrong with taxes and catholicism!!
[12:20] <Hobbsee> mmm....taxes
[12:20] <Hobbsee> nothing wrong with taxes, as long as they're payable to me.
[12:20] <kiko> mmmm... catholic schoolgirls
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[12:20] <kiko> ai
[12:20] <raphink> thank you carlos
[12:20] <gnomefreak> Lp is down?
[12:21] <kiko> gnomefreak, worksforme but beta appears to be down.
[12:21] <gnomefreak> yeah im using beta and it looks down. thank you :)
[12:23] <kiko> most welcome
[12:23] <kiko> Hobbsee, that was a chili peppers reference though.
[12:23] <Hobbsee> kiko: really now?
[12:24] <kiko> yeah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_School_Girls_Rule
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[12:24] <jtv> kiko: not to the film, "Catholic Schoolgirls (Heaven Help Us)"?
[12:24] <Hobbsee> kiko: i see, i see...
[12:26] <carlos> raphink: you are welcome (sorry, I got a phone call and was not able to notify you that I added the team)
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[12:26] <raphink> no problem :)
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[12:57] <kiko> popey!
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[12:58] <popey> ;)
[12:58] <kiko> where are francis and curtis???
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[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #114791 in launchpad-bazaar "'Browse code' link doesn't work after reassigning the branch registrant" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114791
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[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #46025 in malone "Advanced Search needs a 'search by date opened' option" [Wishlist,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/46025
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[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114796 in launchpad "Login form should remember email address after failed login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114796
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[03:46] <Ng> does lp know anything about the changelogs for a new version of some package it's built?
[03:48] <Ng> by which I mean, if I'm looking at a package in LP, can I get the changelog without finding it on changelogs.ubuntu.com?
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[04:34] <sabdfl> Ng: should be able to, yes
[04:36] <Ng> sabdfl: ok I must be blind then, I'll poke around. thanks.
[04:36] <sabdfl> Ng url of your package?
[04:37] <Ng> sabdfl: I was looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/i386/linux-image-2.6.22-3-generic/2.6.22-3.9
[04:37] <Hobbsee> Ng: yes you can, but it's not intuitive, and i'm not sure it shows the full changelog.
[04:38] <Hobbsee> take the version number out of that at the end, and look in the left panel, iirc
[04:39] <Hobbsee> oh wait
[04:39] <Hobbsee> Ng: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/linux-source-2.6.22
[04:40] <Hobbsee> Ng: found from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22 and clicking on the release
[04:40] <Hobbsee> (left hand pane on that)
[04:40] <Ng> aha
[04:40] <Ng> thanks Hobbsee :)
[04:40] <Hobbsee> but it's bloody difficult to find, and quicker just to look up changelogs.u.c
[04:40] <Hobbsee> or use aptitude changelog foo
=== Hobbsee should really file a bug about that
[04:41] <Hobbsee> hmmm, seems it is the full changelog now - it used to not include who had actually done it
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[07:52] <AbdulioUnited> hi all
[07:53] <AbdulioUnited> is there someone who had a problem to enable the "desktop effects" with ATI MOBILITY 7500?
[07:53] <AbdulioUnited> THANKS
[07:57] <Odd_Bloke> AbdulioUnited: You're in the wrong place.  You probably want #ubuntu.
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[08:00] <gnomefreak> AbdulioUnited: you want #ubuntu-effects
[08:11] <AbdulioUnited> ok thanks 
[08:11] <AbdulioUnited> Guys
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[08:27] <Daviey> hey ho - how can i register a new team?
[08:28] <salgado> Daviey, https://launchpad.net/people/
[08:34] <Daviey> thanks
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[08:50] <persia> Is there a mechanism that would allow one to change a bug into a question?  If so, where might I find further information?  If not, against which component should I file a feature request?
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[08:50] <Hobbsee> persia: no, none, and it was being discussed at UDS.
[08:51] <persia> Hobbsee: Thanks.
[08:53] <bdmurray> I sent an e-mail to a bug and it seems to have disappeared.  Could somebody check on it for me?
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[09:21] <bdmurray> eh, it was my mistake
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[09:32] <keir> i am starting a new OSS project, and i'm going to use bzr.
[09:32] <keir> can i host it on launchpad?
[09:35] <keir> anyone alive
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[09:41] <salgado> keir, sure! please do
[09:42] <keir> so launchpad will host the bzr branch also?
[09:42] <keir> so at least more than just my computer will have a copy :)
[09:42] <keir> ideally i'd like a wiki too
[09:42] <keir> like trac
[09:42] <keir> i'd much rather have all stuff in one place
[09:42] <salgado> yes, it will host your code/history as well
[09:43] <keir> ok
[09:43] <keir> but it appears when i register a branch, it wants an external URL
[09:43] <keir> will launchpad pull that then expose it?
[09:44] <salgado> keir, just a second. I know there are a few different ways of setting this up, but I'm not sure about the difference between them
[09:45] <salgado> keir, have you seen https://code.launchpad.net/+about ?
[09:46] <keir> ah, ok
[09:47] <keir> i just don't have an exposed branch, i was hoping to push into launchpad
[09:49] <salgado> keir, I guess this is what you need:
[09:49] <salgado>  Launchpad also provides hosting for Bazaar branches. First, you need to register a SSH key from your person's page. Click on your name at the top of any Launchpad page when logged in to go to your person's page. To create a hosted branch, use the bzr push command. The destination URL must be of the form:
[09:49] <salgado>     sftp://user@bazaar.launchpad.net/~registrant/project/branch 
[09:49] <keir> aaah
[09:49] <salgado> keir, I took that from the help section (top left) of https://code.launchpad.net/
[09:50] <keir> salgado, thanks for all the help!
[09:51] <salgado> keir, you're welcome
[09:52] <keir> wow, launchpad is slick
[09:56] <keir> though i don't see how i can host generic static pages (i.e. the projects website) on launchpad
[09:56] <keir> do i still require an external url for static pages?
[09:56] <Odd_Bloke> keir: I believe so.
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[11:16] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
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[11:19] <ajmitch> morning mpt 
[11:23] <jml> morning all
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[11:31] <ajmitch> hey jml 
[11:31] <ajmitch> enjoying NZ? :)
[11:31] <jml> ajmitch: yus.
[11:32] <jml> ajmitch: Dunedin's a really nice place :)
[11:33] <ajmitch> yeah, I just got back to dunedin on monday, a little cooler than sevilla :)
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[11:44] <jml> I can imagine.
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[11:51] <TheSheep> hello, I was just wondering, anybody uses Opera here?
[11:53] <TheSheep> because the bug list desn't look too good: http://sheep.art.pl/misc/shot.png
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[12:06] <sabdfl> yikes
[12:06] <sabdfl> that's ugly
[12:06] <sabdfl> if you can pinpoint the issue, we can fix it, but i don't think anyone here uses opera
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[12:12] <bdmurray> lifeless: ping