[01:21] <catid> could someone suggest good cross-platform video conferencing software?
[01:22] <mc__> catid: skype
[01:23] <catid> oki
[01:23] <catid> anything else?
[01:28] <ToHellWithGA> catid: ms chat
[01:28] <ToHellWithGA> or skype
[01:30] <catid> thanks
[01:33] <mc__> catid: maybe wengophone has video conferencing too im not sure. kopete also got video conferencin support for icq and msn IIRC
[01:33] <catid> skype works really well
[01:37] <ToHellWithGA> skype is cool except its non-free-ness
[01:37] <ToHellWithGA> i'm a big fan of it.  i prefer it to AIM/MSN/Yahoo
[01:57] <catid> =)
[02:00] <BHSPitMonkey> as a text IM, why?
[02:00] <BHSPitMonkey> as a voip, of course
[03:48] <crdlb> ?
[03:48] <crdlb> whoops
[03:48] <crdlb> keboard slip
[05:04] <sparr> since feisty has released, i need to update my sources to refer to gutsy to get new package versions, yes?
[05:04] <crdlb> only if you want a broken system :)
[05:05] <sparr> if thats how it has to be
[05:06] <sparr> id rather have half new packages and half broken packages than all old working packages
[05:07] <sparr> the packaging timeline for ubuntu is almost the only thing i regret about switching
[05:08] <crdlb> I think mildly sane people usually wait until alpha 1 or so :)
[05:09] <sparr> and go weeks or months without any updates?
[05:11] <Pumpernickel> We're not addicted to updates, see.
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[12:33] <RAOF> Would you believe it?  update-manager is not yet able to handle a gutsy dist-upgrade :)
[12:48] <zaggynl> heh
[12:48] <zaggynl> there is a dist after gutsy yet?
[12:48] <Hobbsee> no
[12:51] <zaggynl> How is the current state of gutsy?
[12:54] <zaggynl> In terms of stability
[01:05] <Hobbsee> depends on the wind direction
[01:14] <zaggynl> heh, wind direction, secret codename of gutsy gibbon is mary poppins? :D
[02:10] <Enverex> What is the definition of a "production system" anyway?
[02:11] <Tomcat_> # that which is manufactured or is ready for manufacturing in volume (as opposed to a prototype or conceptual model)
[02:11] <Tomcat_>     This is the final production model.
[02:11] <Tomcat_> :-)
[02:12] <Enverex> Ah... doubt many people use those unless you're head "Hard drive prepping guy" at Dell or something
[02:12] <Enverex> Any particular reason the kernel-generic package isn't linked to the latest .22 package available in the repos yet?
[02:13] <Enverex> (and the .22 image isn't linked to the modules packages either)
[02:26] <Hobbsee> Enverex: one which you need to work on any given day
[02:27] <Enverex> Hobbsee, That makes more sense, heh
[03:18] <Rossimo-work> could I ask a question or two about remastering an ubuntu cd?
[03:32] <zaggynl> just ask
[03:32] <zaggynl> !ask
[03:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:36] <Rossimo-work> i'm adding extra packages to the fiesty alt cd, and the deb repo on the cd seems to be building correctly, but when I test the CD, it tells me the Release file is broken
[03:36] <Rossimo-work> "unable to determine distrobution" is the error
[03:38] <Rossimo-work> i'm following the wiki customization guide (which is tailored towards dapper)
[03:38] <Rossimo-work> is there anything beyond the wiki that i need to know for fiesty?
[03:38] <Rossimo-work> feisty*
[03:41] <gnomefreak> Rossimo-work: this channel is not for feisty or building cds please see #ubuntu-motu maybe they can help more
[03:41] <Rossimo-work> ok
[04:02] <Enverex> Is there anything wrong with the .22 kernel packages and deps at the moment?
[04:02] <gnomefreak> Enverex: not everything is ready for kernel (it hasnt been upgraded yet)
[11:08] <terlmann> I need some help .. I have an old cd drive I use and It will not mount windows disks anymore since installing vmware... matter of fact it won't mount any at all...