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rokrayeap12:40
jribrokra: hi12:40
rokrahi again :)12:40
jribwe need to clear something up, I'm a bit confused12:40
jribdid you run "ln -s /bin/true /usr/bin/file" or did you run "ln -s /bin/true /usr/bin/file"12:40
rokra jrib first time you said me ln -s /bin/true /usr/bin/file , and you repaet do : ln -s /bin/true /usr/bin/file lol12:41
rokraI did the ln -s /bin/true /usr/bin/file12:41
rokrayes you understood me?12:41
rokrafirst time you said me ln -s /usr/bin/file /bin/true and second time ln -s /bin/true /usr/bin/file12:42
rokraI did the second12:42
jribI never said /usr/bin/file, I always said /usr/bin/fileexec.  We need to undo that now12:42
jribI assume you made the backup of the original file?12:42
jrib"file"12:43
rokrayes12:43
jribrestore it12:43
rokrafile or filexec is the same12:43
rokrathe real name is carserver12:43
jribhow is it the same?12:43
rokrajrib: for me I used file for a var in our example12:44
rokrabut ok there is also a file " file" in the /usr/bin12:44
jribwait12:44
jribso "fileexec" is not the name of the program?12:44
rokrathe realname is cardserver12:44
jribok12:45
rokra/usr/bin/cardserver12:45
jribhow are you trying to run it?12:45
rokra/usr/bin/cardserver or cardserver12:45
jriband then what is the error?12:45
jribwhen you do /usr/bin/cardserver12:46
rokra-su: /usr/bin/cardserver: No such file or directory12:46
jribwhat's with the "su" thing?12:46
rokradont  know12:46
rokra:s12:46
rokraI checked on a debian sytem and it worked :s12:47
rokrabut on the ubuntu I have this error12:47
jribwhat kind of file is it?12:47
rokraELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped12:47
jribno source?12:50
rokrajrib: no source12:50
jribrokra: no idea, sorry12:53
rokraok thx for your help12:53
rokrait smell the debian reisntall12:53
naliothjrib: you're a machine :)12:58
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poningrueek01:06
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soundraylment_ox: Hi01:34
lment_oxhey01:34
soundrayOpen the file with 'nano /etc/passwd'01:35
soundrayMove the cursor to the end of the first line and delete the "/tmp" with the backspace key.01:35
soundrayGot that?01:36
lment_oxhow do i open in nano ???01:36
lment_oxi am in nano but how do i access root file within that windo?01:37
lment_oxsame first line as before???01:37
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soundrayHey, I would really like to help you, but you have to do what I ask you to, and not something else.01:38
lment_oxok01:38
soundrayHit Ctrl-X to exit nano. You should get back to the # prompt.01:38
lment_oxyes01:39
naliothsudo nano /etc/passwd01:39
soundrayEnter 'nano /etc/passwd' (everything between the quotes)01:39
naliothdon't forget the sudo01:39
soundrayno, nalioth01:39
soundrayWe're in recovery mode.01:39
jribrecovery mode01:39
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lment_oxok opened01:40
soundrayMove the cursor to the end of the first line and delete the "/tmp" with the backspace key.01:41
soundrayCan you do that?01:42
lment_oxthere is no "/tmp"01:43
soundrayDoes the first line read "root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash"?01:44
lment_oxno when i opened nano, screen is blank other than options at the bottom01:45
soundrayStrange. Do a Ctrl-X again to exit nano.01:46
lment_oxk01:46
lment_ox...01:48
soundrayDo you get any output when you enter this line:01:49
soundraycat /etc/passwd01:49
lment_oxyea01:50
lment_oxfirst line reads root:x:0:0:0:root:/root:/tmp01:50
soundrayNow enter all of this line:01:51
soundraynano /etc/passwd01:51
lment_oxok01:51
soundraylment_ox: is the file opened in nano now?01:52
lment_oxat the top says:  gnu nano 1.3.12 file etc/passwd but rest is blank01:52
lment_oxother than commands at the bottom01:53
soundrayOkay, we'll take a different approach now. Ctrl-X to exit nano01:53
lment_oxokee01:53
soundraySeries of commands now. The first one:01:54
soundraycd /etc01:54
soundrayGot that?01:54
lment_oxk01:54
soundrayNow:01:54
soundraycp passwd passwd-copy01:54
lment_oxpermission denied01:55
soundraylment_ox: are you sure you're in recovery mode?01:55
lment_ox100% waited for option to login to recovery used my usr name logged in01:56
soundraylment_ox: did you set a root password at any point?01:56
lment_oxjust did01:56
soundrayjust when?01:57
lment_oxi just went into admin made sure my password was what i set it as01:57
soundrayWhat do you mean by "went into admin"?01:58
lment_oxsys/admin /user groups  root01:59
lment_oxin gnome01:59
soundraylment_ox: did you run 'sudo passwd' at any point?01:59
lment_oxno01:59
soundrayWhat does your prompt look like at the moment?02:00
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lment_oxk40571k@dhst-desktop:/etc$02:00
soundrayTry this one:02:01
soundraysudo nano /etc/passwd02:01
lment_oxsame as prior02:01
soundrayOkay, something is wrong with your system, and I can't imagine how it got that way.02:03
soundrayNormally, when you choose recovery mode, you shouldn't need to login at all.02:04
lment_oxok02:04
soundrayIs this a fresh install?02:04
lment_oxrecent02:04
soundrayNot upgraded?02:04
lment_oxno 6.1 waiting for 702:04
soundrayWith all of this going on, I don't know if fixing your /etc/passwd will make a difference.02:06
lment_oxoh yea should i wait for 7???02:06
soundrayWould it be terrible to use a 7.04 CD and do a fresh installation?02:06
lment_oxthen redoit02:06
soundrayWhy wait, it's out...02:07
lment_oxno waiting on 7 to do so :)02:07
lment_oxi am in dutch harbor alaska takes awhile02:07
soundraylment_ox: is downloading the iso and burning to a CD-R an option?02:07
lment_oxnot on this comp also because serv prov likes to time out large file dls but possibly] 02:08
lment_oxdo u know if 7 is torrent avail?02:10
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soundrayYou could download it with wget. If it gets interrupted, you can use wget -c to continue02:10
soundrayI think it is02:11
lment_oxwget??? website???02:11
soundrayComes with ubuntu -- but that's useless, right? Dang...02:11
lment_oxhahaha02:12
lment_oxi have wget but not the dl url02:12
soundrayI see, sec...02:12
lment_oxk02:13
soundraywget http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso02:13
lment_oxdl'n we'll see how that goes02:15
lment_oxreally appreciate all the help02:15
lment_oxQ: though when i install 7 will all of info from 6 be deleted02:15
soundrayWell, I hope it will have helped in the end.02:15
soundrayYou should back up your /home directory and possible /etc for reference.02:16
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lment_oxhow so?02:16
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soundrayDepends on what you have in your system...02:17
lment_oxnothin but fonts and images at this point , but i am in the end trying to access root to install a anti virus as well as sun java asp02:18
soundrayAre you setting up a fileserver or mailserver?02:19
soundrayBecause on a personal workstation, you don't need virus protection for Linux.02:20
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lment_oxfile server i think i would have to ask my boss havent got passed the root problem to know more02:20
lment_oxthats what i thought as far as linux cause you can debuh that shit right???02:21
soundrayAnyway, if you do a fresh install, it will format the partition that you set as /02:22
lment_oxyea02:22
lment_oxum02:22
soundraySo it's best if you copy any valuable data to another machine, external hard disk or optical disks.02:22
lment_oxwhen wget dl where is the dl directory??? desktop???02:22
lment_oxoic02:22
lment_oxdat file work???02:22
soundrayPresent working directory.02:22
soundrayYou mean tape?02:23
lment_oxyea02:23
lment_oxold school lmao02:23
soundrayIt should, if you have a driver for the DAT drive...02:23
lment_oxbelieve so02:23
lment_oxpresent working directory is the name im logged onto right???02:23
soundrayNo02:24
soundrayit's what you last cd'd to.02:24
soundrayEnter pwd to find what it is currently.02:24
lment_oxgotcha02:24
soundray!cli02:25
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal02:25
soundray^ might have some interesting stuff for you02:25
lment_oxthanks :) i am just getting into linux and i am falling in love with it02:26
soundrayWell, good luck with it.02:27
lment_oxthank you02:27
soundrayI'll be off then. Last chance to ask ;)02:27
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lment_oxum02:27
lment_oxhow do i add themes02:27
lment_ox???02:27
soundray!themes02:28
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy02:28
soundray!changethemes02:28
ubotu[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu02:28
soundrayUbotu knows everything ;)02:28
lment_oxhaha02:29
lment_oxthanks02:29
soundrayDid you say you're from Cicely?02:29
soundrayOh, that's just fictional, right02:30
soundray:)02:30
soundrayBye02:31
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soundrayOkay, first disable automounting:08:32
soundraySystem-Preferences-Removable drives -- untick the boxes under Removable Storage08:33
b33rok08:33
soundrayNow "eject" your device (right click on the icon)08:34
soundray(then select Eject from the menu)08:34
b33rk08:35
soundrayb33r: open a terminal and run08:35
soundraysudo fdisk -l08:35
b33rhmm but what that will do?08:36
b33ru mean to partition it one for win and 1 for linux?08:36
soundrayList partitions that are visible for your system.08:36
b33rok08:36
soundrayWe're still diagnosing, not fixing anything yet08:36
soundrayYou will recognize your hard disk partitions. The other set of partitions corresponds to your flash device.08:37
b33r/dev/sda2            4747        7301    20523037+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)08:38
b33rthat?08:38
soundrayb33r: looks promising. What's /dev/sda1 ?08:39
b33rmy NTFS partition08:39
b33rI have windows on it08:40
soundrayDo you have a /dev/hda1 ?08:40
b33ru mean sda1 I'm on feisty08:40
b33ryeah I do08:41
soundrayI mean what I say. Do you have a /dev/hda1 ?08:41
b33rno08:41
b33r/dev/sda1   *         894        4746    30949191    7  HPFS/NTFS08:42
b33rno hda108:42
soundrayb33r: do you get any output from 'dmesg | grep sdb'?08:42
b33ruhh wha do u mean?08:43
b33rwhat*08:43
soundrayEnter08:43
soundraydmesg | grep sdb08:43
soundrayDoes that return any output?08:43
b33ryeah08:44
b33rI have sdb1 another hard drive08:44
soundrayHow many in total?08:45
b33r   28.485502]  SCSI device sdb: 160836480 512-byte hdwr sectors (82348 MB)08:45
b33r[   28.485517]  sdb: Write Protect is off08:45
b33r[   28.485520]  sdb: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 0008:45
b33r[   28.485541]  SCSI device sdb: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA08:45
b33r[   28.485591]  SCSI device sdb: 160836480 512-byte hdwr sectors (82348 MB)08:45
b33r[   28.485603]  sdb: Write Protect is off08:45
b33r[   28.485605]  sdb: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 0008:45
b33r[   28.485626]  SCSI device sdb: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA08:45
b33r[   28.485629]   sdb: sdb108:45
b33r[   28.498277]  sd 0:0:1:0: Attached scsi disk sdb08:45
b33r[   51.750877]  EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal08:45
soundrayPlease ask before you paste if it's more than two lines.08:46
b33rok sorry08:46
soundrayHow many hard disks do you have in total?08:46
b33r208:46
soundrayOkay. Do you get any output from 'dmesg | grep sdc' (yes/no)08:47
b33ryeah08:47
soundrayb33r: /dev/sdc will be your flash device then. Let's mount /dev/sdc1 to confirm that:08:48
soundraysudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt08:48
b33r33r@b33r:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt08:48
b33rmount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist08:48
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b33rworked nvm08:49
soundrayIt's mounted?08:50
b33rsays 99% full08:50
soundraydf -h /mnt08:50
soundraywhat does that say?08:50
b33rFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on08:51
b33r/dev/sdc1             967M  966M  332K 100% /mnt08:51
soundraythat's the 300k one then. It probably contains the Windows driver and some magic to run that driver automatically.08:52
soundrayDid you get lots and lots from 'dmesg | grep sdc'?08:52
b33ryeah08:53
b33rbtw I want it to run normally on windows too not only on ubuntu08:53
soundrayWhat do you get from 'dmesg | grep sdc1'?08:54
soundrayPlease paste.08:55
b33r[   87.243243]   sdc: sdc108:55
b33r[  219.843284]   sdc: sdc108:55
b33r[ 1844.846727]   sdc: sdc108:55
soundrayOkay, are you ready to format the device? We can make it usable for Windows and Linux alike, but it will be blank.08:56
b33ryeah good thing I backed up the data08:57
soundraysudo fdisk /dev/sdc08:57
soundraythen hit 'p' enter to show the current partition table.08:58
soundrayDone?08:58
b33ryeah08:58
soundrayThere should be some warnings, but no errors. True?08:59
b33rbi08:59
b33rno*08:59
b33rwant me to paste what it showed?08:59
soundrayyes pls08:59
b33rDisk /dev/sdc: 1015 MB, 1015021568 bytes09:00
b33r250 heads, 32 sectors/track, 247 cylinders09:00
b33rUnits = cylinders of 8000 * 512 = 4096000 bytes09:00
b33r   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System09:00
b33r/dev/sdc1   *           1         248      991216    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)09:00
b33rPartition 1 has different physical/logical endings:09:00
b33r     phys=(249, 249, 32) logical=(247, 201, 32)09:00
soundrayThat's the exact problem you're going to fix now. Delete the partition now: Hit 'd' enter, then say '1' when it asks for the number to delete.09:01
b33rok09:01
b33rwhat now?09:01
soundray'n' enter09:01
b33rCommand (m for help): 109:01
b33r1: unknown command09:02
soundray'p' enter again09:02
soundrayPaste what it says09:02
b33rDisk /dev/sdc: 1015 MB, 1015021568 bytes09:02
b33r250 heads, 32 sectors/track, 247 cylinders09:02
b33rUnits = cylinders of 8000 * 512 = 4096000 bytes09:02
soundrayOkay. Hit 'n' enter09:03
b33rCommand action09:03
b33r   e   extended09:03
b33r   p   primary partition (1-4)09:03
soundraySelect 'primary' if it tells you to choose09:03
soundrayyeah, 'p'09:03
b33rthen 1 right?09:03
soundrayYes09:03
soundrayYou're learning fast :)09:04
b33rFirst cylinder (1-247, default 1):09:04
b33r also 1?09:04
soundrayyes09:04
b33rLast cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (1-247, default 247):09:04
soundrayjust enter09:04
soundrayto accept the default, 24709:04
b33rok09:05
soundray'p'?09:05
b33r/dev/sdc1               1         247      987984   83  Linux09:05
soundrayWe need to change it from Linux to W95 Fat32 now.09:05
soundrayHit 't'09:05
soundrayit'll give you a list that probably needs to scroll...09:06
b33rHex code (type L to list codes):09:06
soundraythen you enter 0c09:06
soundrayall right, just enter 0c09:06
soundrayand p again to confirm that it's now FAT3209:06
b33ryeah09:07
b33rit's FAT3209:07
soundrayOkay, nothing on the device has changed yet. If you hit 'w' enter now, the new partitioning will be written.09:07
soundrayThen it'll be permanent.09:07
b33rshould I paste09:08
b33rit gave an error09:08
soundrayyes09:08
b33rThe partition table has been altered!09:08
b33rCalling ioctl() to re-read partition table.09:08
b33rWARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.09:08
b33rThe kernel still uses the old table.09:08
b33rThe new table will be used at the next reboot.09:08
b33rWARNING: If you have created or modified any DOS 6.x09:08
b33rpartitions, please see the fdisk manual page for additional09:08
b33rinformation.09:08
b33rSyncing disks.09:08
soundrayRight, we should have umounted it. But it's not a problem.09:09
soundrayDo a 'q' to exit fdisk.09:09
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b33rit exited itself09:09
soundrayOkay. What does 'mount | grep sdc' say?09:10
b33r/dev/sdc1 on /mnt type vfat (rw)09:10
soundrayDo a 'umount /mnt'09:11
soundraysry, make that 'sudo umount /mnt'09:11
b33rdone09:11
soundrayThen do a plug cycle (remove and plug it in again).09:11
b33rshould I put back in the auto mount?09:12
soundrayb33r: no, not yet09:12
b33rok what now?09:12
soundrayWe have partitioned it now, but we still have to format it.09:12
soundrayThink of a nice name for it, like Stick09:13
soundrayThen type09:13
soundraysudo mkdosfs -F32 -n Stick /dev/sdc109:13
b33rok09:14
soundrayThen reenable automounting09:14
soundrayand do a plug cycle.09:14
b33rthanks worked :D09:15
soundraymount | grep sdc should now say09:15
soundray/dev/sdc1 on /media/Stick type vfat (rw)09:15
soundrayCorrect?09:15
b33r/dev/sdc1 on /media/Stick type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077)09:15
soundrayHey, success :)09:16
soundrayAny questions?09:16
b33rthank u very much mate09:16
b33ryeah what's rw,nosuid,nodev?09:16
soundrayAre you British? :)09:16
b33rno09:16
b33rLebanese09:16
soundrayreadwrite, can't make root executables on it, can't create special device files on it.09:17
soundrayMakes good sense for an automounted device.09:17
soundrayOkay, no problem mate.09:17
b33r1 more thing now if I remove files on a windows box will the problem return? =/09:18
soundrayNo, I wouldn't think so.09:18
b33rok thanks again09:18
soundrayTo get it back to the old format, you'd have to use a utility provided by the manufacturer.09:18
soundrayGot a suggestion:09:19
soundrayNext time you need a USB flash device, get a mini SD card reader. Very cool, much more versatile :)09:19
b33ruhh what's that?09:20
soundraySD are memory cards for cameras, voice recorders etc.09:20
b33ryeah well where do u stick it? USB? :/09:21
soundrayExactly.09:21
soundrayThe card reader, that is.09:21
b33roh nice, gonna look it up09:21
b33rbrb booting windows to check if it'll work fine there =)09:21
soundrayI'm off now, see you09:21
b33rbbye09:21
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