[11:22] <jenda> yo, Mike_F
[11:25] <Mike_F> jenda:hey, up early today
[11:26] <jenda> Mike_F: some memory at the back of my mind is telling me you were supposed to receive something from the post office - did that happen? :)
[11:31] <Mike_F> jenda: yes i got them last week
[11:31] <Mike_F> i thought that i ket you know i guess i forgot
[11:33] <Mike_F> jenda: the posters are cool, did you design them?
[11:34] <jenda> Mike_F: nah, you likely did let me know, and I forgot :)
[11:34] <jenda> I didn't - Hannes Pasqualini did, on my order :)
[11:35] <Mike_F> i always liked the information highway concept for the internet
[11:39] <Mike_F> jenda: what type of resources are available to let regular people know about ubuntu ?
[11:44] <Mike_F> if there aren't any maybe that is something that I can help contribute to.
[11:45] <Mike_F> At least from an (East Coast) American point of view
[12:12] <jenda> hmm
[12:13] <jenda> Mike_F: that's a difficult question :)
[12:13] <jenda> Mike_F: and it's the one question the MT is here to answer.
[12:13] <jenda> However... it's not simple ;)
[12:13] <jenda> There is no way, I think, to let _regular_/average people know.
[12:13] <jenda> You need some spark of interest on their side, first.
[12:26] <jenda> That could be generated by outdoor advertising: posters, stickers, shirts, simply seeing the logo or the OS itself somewhere.
[12:26] <jenda> Once you've got that, you need to be able to give them info on the pros and cons of using Ubuntu.
[12:27] <jenda> And lastly, you have to help them use it - that's documentation and support land, not marketing.
[12:34] <Mike_F> jenda: true support is the keyword for what a consulting business is
[12:34] <Mike_F> everything else is marketing
[12:35] <Mike_F> as an engineer, marketing is something that i have learned from "the street"
[12:48] <Mike_F> jenda: i am going to let some regular people know about ubuntu in Orlando Fla. at my chamber of commerce leads group
[12:48] <jenda> sweet
[03:12] <Vorian> hey everyone, boredandblogging will be up for membership in a little while!
[03:12] <Vorian> lets all make sure he gets some good support from us :)
[03:13] <beuno> Yay! boredandblogging!
[03:13] <boredandblogging> any help would be appreciated :-)
[03:16] <Vorian> *gently
[03:16] <boredandblogging> hah
[03:28] <Vorian> meatballhat, 1!!!!11!!!!
[03:28] <Vorian> hello
[03:29] <meatballhat> Vorian: he-Yello!  :D
[03:29] <beuno> meatballhat, :D
[03:29] <Vorian> :
[03:29] <meatballhat> howdy howdy howdy
[03:29] <meatballhat> anybody else recently receive Feisty CDs from Shipit?  :)
[03:30] <beuno> meatballhat: yes!  kubuntu artwork is very nice
[03:30] <Vorian> meatballhat, http://vorian.org/?p=43
[03:31] <meatballhat> as per usual, I'm behind the times  :P
[03:31] <Vorian> lol
[03:31] <Vorian> I feel like I'm hording
[03:32] <meatballhat> Vorian: we should get an announcement out to Libraries
[03:32] <Vorian> yep
[03:32] <meatballhat> I can call our guy at OPLIN - he offered to announce on our behalf
[03:32] <Vorian> and a press release
[03:32] <Vorian> meatballhat, OPLIN would be kewl!
[03:32] <meatballhat> Vorian:  shall we?  -->  #ubuntu-oh
[03:33] <Vorian> sure
[03:37] <beuno> meatballhat: I'm trying to get my LoCo officalised today  :p
[03:37] <meatballhat> beuno: very cool!!!   /me checks the Agenda
[03:38] <boredandblogging> thats awesome beuno 
[03:38] <meatballhat> beuno: I see the Agenda is pretty slim
[03:38] <beuno> meatballhat: luckily  :D
[03:39] <meatballhat> whee!
[03:40] <beuno> that reminds me, jono, I'm sorry I went ahead and added the LoCo to the agenda, I was anxious   :D
[03:40] <jono> beuno: which team?
[03:40] <beuno> jono: Argentina Team, I emailed you about it a few days ago
[03:41] <jono> why did you add it?
[03:41] <beuno> oh, and "hello", I never seem to great you  :D
[03:41] <beuno> jono: to get it approved
[03:41] <jono> beuno: why did you add it before I responded?
[03:41] <jono> beuno: the process is that I look over the applicatiobn
[03:42] <beuno> jono: the meeting was today
[03:42] <elkbuntu> beuno, you only need to bribe jono these days
[03:42] <jono> and with UDS I have not had time to catch up, you are not supposed to just go and add it
[03:42] <beuno> elkbuntu, :D
[03:43] <beuno> jono: right, I'm sorry I went over you, should I have it skipped then?
[03:43] <Vorian> beuno, just give jono a link to your forum with it's 5 million posts....
[03:43] <Vorian> :)
[03:43] <beuno> yes
[03:43] <beuno> we've got voer 100 members in Launchpad alone
[03:43] <beuno> I *really* thought we where ready
[03:43] <jono> beuno: I am sorry, but you should not skip the process, the process is there for a reason,and I expect a little flexability considering I was travelling all weekend - let me check your approval now
[03:44] <beuno> jono, quick links: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArgentinaTeamApprovalApplication
[03:44] <beuno> https://launchpad.net/~uluga/
[03:44] <beuno> http://uluga.ubuntuforums.org/  (a lot of activity there)
[03:44] <beuno> http://uluga.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:44] <jono> looks good beuno
[03:44] <beuno> eeerrr...  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-ar/
[03:44] <jono> but don't do that again, processes are there for a reason
[03:45] <beuno> jono: yes, hence the "sorry" bit  :D
[03:45] <beuno> I won't
[03:45] <jono> :)
[03:45] <beuno> thanks for the last minute review
[03:45] <beuno> it's just I'm going to debconf (yay!), and I didn't know if I would have time next meeting
[03:45] <beuno> and I've got a lot of anxious members
[04:15] <beuno> jono: thanks for the support   :D
[04:15] <jono> np
[04:16] <jono> :)
[04:16] <juliux> Tm_T, join #ubuntu-meeting 
[04:16] <Vorian> cheer for boredandblogging !!!!
[04:28] <beuno> boredandblogging,  :D   congrats!
[04:53] <boredandblogging> beuno: thanks for the help
[04:53] <beuno> boredandblogging: you earned it, no help needed   :D
[05:04] <loudmouthman> Right , whilst I await Daviey in the meeting , I want to go back to my question yesterday. Im interested in discussing how we can market Ubuntu to SMEs. Ive been doing OSS evengelism for the last 8 years to SMEs and now and it always seems to break down to Enterprise or Desktop . 
[05:05] <loudmouthman> Im wondering if I have missed a core segment of the marketing statement that deals with engagement of SMEs or am i buzzwording <grin>
[05:14] <boredandblogging> loudmouthman: what does an SME need thats not on the ubuntu server? I'm asking because I'm not really sure whats on the server edition exactly
[05:14] <loudmouthman> oh im talking about Desktop delivery though. 
[05:15] <loudmouthman> ive actually got a few SMEs paying me to install or dual boot there machines and set them up, plus Jo Miller from Certain shops has had to be dropped in at the deep end and use it.
[05:16] <loudmouthman> the core issue is Business managers and Management Consultants dont like something they cant sell into ( e.g. OSS ) where as they can get traction and feel good factors from MS and Apple.
[05:17] <boredandblogging> ahh, I see
[05:18] <loudmouthman> Down here in sunny sussex UK  I can sell IT support and Ubuntu Servers till the cows come home but selling Desktops is another matter. And pretty much all the case and conversations are based around Enterprise or Ma and Pa delivery. 
[05:29] <loudmouthman> So I am wondering about kicking off a Ubuntu SME delivery project to get the conversation going about SME delivery and implementation 
[05:35] <boredandblogging> hi Burgundavia 
[05:35] <Burgundavia> hello
[07:42] <Tm_T> juliux: CRAP
[07:43] <Tm_T> juliux: what did I miss?
[07:46] <Tm_T> oh noes, I knew there's some losses when I don't have net connection other than my mobile phone...
[08:00] <juliux> Tm_T, you miss your membership;)
[08:24] <nixternal> jenda: you freenode people are slow man with the pdpc cloaks ;p
[08:24] <nixternal> been 2 weeks and still no love, I want a refund ;p
[08:25] <juliux> nixternal, lol
[08:27] <jenda> nixternal: oh yes :)
[08:27] <jenda> nixternal: we are 
[08:27] <jenda> juliux: I have info from Hannes
[08:27] <juliux> jenda, cool
[08:27] <nixternal> I know you are...pathetic...makes me want to use efnet instead!
[08:27] <nixternal> muhehehe
[08:28] <jenda> It should be feasable to make A0 posters... I mean, the fonts are resisable, and the illustration should have enough resolution.
[08:28] <jenda> The bigger a poster, the less dpi it needs... an A0 does not need more than 100-150 dpi to look good.
[08:28] <jenda> I'll check if I can export a pdf with max resolution... 
[08:28] <jenda> That was a quote ^
[08:28] <nixternal> I want my cloak to say @debian/ubuntu/fsf/member/pdpc.whatever.active/nixternal
[08:28] <nixternal> and I just might want to add more damnit!
[08:28] <juliux> jenda, we only need the indesing sources because we have to give the printer a ps file
[08:30] <jenda> nixternal: And I want it to be @freenode.staff/ubuntu.marketing.member/ubuntuforums.moderator/ubuntucz.loco.member/tapthru.founder/jenda, but it's a know-go
[08:30] <nixternal> oh ya, I want some of that too
[08:30] <jenda> :)
[08:30] <jenda> juliux: hmm...
[08:30] <nixternal> the loco, forums mod, marketing member pssh
[08:30] <jenda> juliux: I don't know what that is
[08:30] <nixternal> ;p
[08:31] <juliux> jenda, indesign is a programm for windows
[08:31] <juliux> ;), 
[08:32] <nixternal> I will whois myself later, and if there is nothing there, OFTC will have havoc brought upon them ;p
[08:33] <tsmithe> jenda, so...
[08:33] <tsmithe> eh?
[08:34] <jenda> juliux: "indesing" I read that as indexing ;)
[08:34] <jenda> tsmithe: hmm?
[08:34] <tsmithe> you know what i want :P
[08:34] <juliux> jenda, tsts
[08:34] <jenda> tsmithe: I had the exam today
[08:34] <jenda> tsmithe: and I failed it ;)
[08:34] <tsmithe> you always fail! 
[08:34] <tsmithe> that's not good enough!
[08:34] <jenda> hehehe