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Daviey!schedule london01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about schedule london - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-meeting: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 15 May 13:00 UTC: Community Council | 15 May 15:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 16 May 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 17 May 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 20:00 UTC: Forum Council | 20 May 17:00 UTC: Xubuntu Developers
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popey@schedule london09:32
ubotuSchedule for Europe/London: 15 May 14:00: Community Council | 15 May 16:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 13:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 21:00: Forum Council | 20 May 18:00: Xubuntu Developers09:32
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boredandblogging@schedule atlanta12:51
Treenaksboredandblogging: try a larget city :)12:52
Treenakslarger12:52
boredandblogging@schedule eastern12:52
ubotuSchedule for Canada/Eastern: 15 May 09:00: Community Council | 15 May 11:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 08:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 12:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 16:00: Forum Council | 20 May 13:00: Xubuntu Developers12:52
boredandbloggingthere we go12:53
Treenaks@schedule Amsterdam12:53
ubotuSchedule for Europe/Amsterdam: 15 May 15:00: Community Council | 15 May 17:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 22:00: Forum Council | 20 May 19:00: Xubuntu Developers12:53
`23meg@now12:53
ubotuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: May 15 2007, 10:53:41 - Next meeting: Community Council in 2 hours 6 minutes12:53
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bimberi@schedule canberra01:33
ubotuSchedule for Australia/Canberra: 15 May 23:00: Community Council | 16 May 01:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 22:00: Edubuntu | 18 May 02:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 19 May 06:00: Forum Council | 21 May 03:00: Xubuntu Developers01:33
florencia_@schedule argentina01:34
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Hobbseehiya bimberi01:37
Hobbsee@schedule sydney01:37
ubotuSchedule for Australia/Sydney: 15 May 23:00: Community Council | 16 May 01:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 22:00: Edubuntu | 18 May 02:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 19 May 06:00: Forum Council | 21 May 03:00: Xubuntu Developers01:37
Hobbseeoh, it is the same01:37
bimberihi Hobbsee01:37
bimberiyes, Canberra is in the same timezone01:37
bimberiHobbsee: welcome home btw :)01:38
Hobbseebimberi: thanks :)01:38
bimberi@schedule Buenos_Aires01:39
ubotuSchedule for America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires: 15 May 10:00: Community Council | 15 May 12:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 09:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 13:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 17:00: Forum Council | 20 May 14:00: Xubuntu Developers01:39
bimberiflorencia: ^^^^01:39
gnomefreakHobbsee: sorry to hear about all the transportation you had to use and the time it took :(01:39
Hobbseegnomefreak: yeah :P01:39
Hobbseegnomefreak: was a bit nasty01:39
gnomefreakit sounds it01:39
florenciaHello bimberry01:40
bimberihi florencia01:40
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nifanb'dia01:41
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Seeker`@schedule London01:43
ubotuSchedule for Europe/London: 15 May 14:00: Community Council | 15 May 16:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 13:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 21:00: Forum Council | 20 May 18:00: Xubuntu Developers01:43
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flinthey kevin!02:42
dholbach@schedule berlin02:43
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makoi need go to my lab now and will be probably 5-10 minutes to the meeting02:47
makoapologies to everyone, see you soon02:47
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:ubotu] : Current meeting: Community Council | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 15 May 15:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 16 May 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 17 May 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 20:00 UTC: Forum Council | 20 May 17:00 UTC: Xubuntu Developers
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UzuulHi there. I'm Arnaud Quette, from the UMC team (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMediaCenterTeam)02:52
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MikeB-morning all02:53
jsgotangcomorning02:53
jsgotangco(evening here rather)02:54
Hobbseehi MikeB-02:54
Seeker`afternoon02:54
Hobbseehi spam02:54
Hobbseehi Seeker`02:54
jsgotangcohey Hobbsee how's the jetlag monster02:54
marianomjmorelli: how are you? nice to see you 'round02:54
Hobbseejsgotangco: i went to sleep at 6am today, and woke up at 6pm.  it's sucking.02:54
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MithrandirHobbsee: just keep pushing it forward so you'll go to sleep at noon tomorrow. and then you'll almost be adjusted.02:55
Florenciahello everyone02:55
jsgotangcoyeah it sucks that the world is round02:55
MikeB-Hobbsee: ouch, the lag wasn't bad for me, but the airline lost my luggage for two days02:55
HobbseeMithrandir: heh02:55
HobbseeMikeB-: fun.02:55
bimberiHobbsee: they're elkbuntu's hours methinks :)02:56
Hobbseebimberi: heh.  true.  but she doesnt have uni02:56
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highvoltagehey ubunteros02:56
jmorellimarianom, hi ! I can't miss this chat02:56
dholbachhello02:57
flintGreetings from Vermont, the Frozen North of the US near the Canadian line!02:57
Hobbseegreetings from Antarctica.02:57
jmorelliuouuu Antarctica !02:57
flintHobbsee, Antarctica, cool!02:58
slackwarelifehello02:58
jsgotangcoCamp McMurdo?02:58
Hobbseefeels like i'm in antarctica, anyway02:59
flinthighvoltage, Jonathan good to hear from you!02:59
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highvoltagehey flint, long time no see :)03:00
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kjcoleHail and well met good fellows03:01
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jmorellispg76, good to see you here !!03:01
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marianomspg76: morning03:02
dholbachmako said he'd late a few minutes03:02
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sabdflhi all03:02
jsgotangcohello03:02
Seeker`lo sabdfl03:02
dudanogueirahi all03:02
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spg76good morning03:02
kjcoleGood morning, or whatever part of the day it is for y'all.03:02
dholbachok, let's get started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda is our agenda for today03:03
MikeB-morning sabdfl03:03
dholbachis srimadas here?03:03
lipe_good morninf everyone03:03
dholbachamachu seems to be his nick on freenode03:03
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jmorellibeuno, hi hero !!!03:04
jsgotangcoyes that's amachu03:04
highvoltagejsgotangco: bless you03:04
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dholbachok, amachu seems to not be around... he asked for a clarification on "Ubuntu Derivative - reg. Recently we had the formation of Ubuntu Derivative Team. It appears that some gap has been formed in between [https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2007-April/001280.html]  following this mail and its replies. Would like to get clarified on such issues."03:04
dholbachI can just add a few points to that:03:04
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dholbachI'm in touch with David Farning at the moment, but until now the issues he talked about are rather nebulous to me - I don't exactly know what problem there was with Canonical03:05
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dholbachwe should invite amachu and dfarning to one of the next meetings and talk about this again03:06
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juliuxhi all03:06
jsgotangcomy take on this one is that it falls pretty much under the trademark policy under derived works just like how other derivatives fall under03:06
sabdflI've not heard anything from dfarning on the subject03:06
dholbachalso, I asked the sysadmins to create a ubuntu-derivative mailing list - I will announce it and I hope that will make us work closer together with the derivatives03:06
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dholbachwe had some very good sessions with the guys from Guadalinex at UDS, so I'm very confident this will help improve things03:07
sabdflok. we have a very strong pro-derivative policy in general, and want them to feel welcome to use ubuntu as it suits them03:07
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sabdflnext?03:07
dholbachjuliux proposed "CCAgenda freeze - The wikipage for the CommunityCouncilAgenda, should be frozen a few days befor the CC Meeting so everybody can check if the items are interesting to him or not."03:08
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sabdfli'd rather not, as it would introduce greater delays i think03:08
jsgotangcowas the wiki page frozen at all? I noticed changes until this morning...but then it only took me an hour to read everything03:08
sabdflthat said, we don't want people adding items during the meeting, either :-)03:08
dholbachhehe03:08
MikeB-:)03:09
juliuxi put that up because there were some people adding himself for membership just a few minutes bevor the meeting03:09
gnomefreakfreezing it would help keep meetings shorter03:09
kjcoleSeems wise, considering the CC meets fairly regularly.  On the other hand one can always freeze it an hour before rather than days.03:09
jsgotangcoi believe a placeholder notice would do for now03:09
kjcole(Perhaps "hours" rather than an hour or days.)03:09
juliuxi think the general agenda items should be froozen, so everybody knows about the itmes for the next meeting03:09
juliuxkjcole, did you check the agenda every hour?03:10
sabdflwhat about taking a different approach to discussion items vs memberships/loco's03:10
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sabdfli see no problem with someone adding themselves for membership just before hand, as long as they have folks there who will speak for them to backup their wiki pages and lp track record03:10
juliuxsabdfl, i am happy if the gernal items are frozen a few days bevor the meeting03:10
Seveassorry for being late, network problems03:11
juliuxhi Seveas03:11
sabdflfor discussion items, it makes sense to freeze a little earlier (though i don't think more than 24 hours is needed)03:11
kjcolejuliux, no but it seemed like a compromise between not freezing, and freezing days ahead.  And I would check a few hours ahead if that were the established policy.  (Or live with the uncertainty.)03:11
sabdflalso, it should be good practice to notify anyone concerned that an item was added03:11
sabdflespecially in the case of a dispute03:11
sabdflso we get the chance to hear from all sides03:11
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jsgotangcothat's ideal03:12
Seveassabdfl, good idea03:12
Seveas(was the first item on the agenda skipped?)03:12
dholbachSeveas: amachu was not here03:13
sabdflno, just rapidly dispensed with03:13
Seveasok03:13
kjcoleEncourage people who add agenda items to subscribe?  (I get automatic notices when the CC agenda page changes...)03:13
sabdflso, can we agree on 24 hours for discussion items, and just before for memberships/locos?03:13
dholbachI'm happy with that03:13
kjcoleMaybe a note on the agenda page suggesting subscription?03:13
Seveaslikewise03:13
MikeB-sabdfl: sounds good03:13
jsgotangcoyes03:14
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juliuxsabdfl, sounds good03:14
denndanice idea03:14
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VooDooafternoon03:14
sabdflok, i think that's sufficient consensus, seveas could you update the page accordingly?03:14
Seveaswill do03:15
dholbachnext item: Uzuul wants blessing for the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMediaCenterTeam03:15
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UzuulI've put the latest status & roadmap here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMediaCenterTeam/Status2007051403:15
Uzuulwe're on the road to success, federating *all* the players in the field (Debian, Ubuntu, Elisa, LIRC, ...) to work together...03:16
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alinsGood norning03:17
jsgotangcothat's a healthy spread of team members03:17
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makogreetings everyone03:18
Seveasgreetings mako03:18
Uzuuljsgot: yeah ;-)03:18
makoi hope you got my message 15 minutes before saying i'd be miss the beginning of hte meeting03:18
MikeB-morning mako03:18
denndahi03:18
jsgotangcohow do you forsee this project going during gutsy development?03:18
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juliuxhi mako03:18
makoapologies for the disruption, i'm reading scrollback03:19
Uzuuljsgotangco: well, we will have releasable things. Elisa 0.2 will be out for the Guadec, packages are underway...03:19
elmosorry, but what does federating mean in this context?03:19
Uzuulthe only point is about the artwork (missing gfx designers) and the achievement of our UI goals. I've no exact idea yet!03:20
dholbachlooks like you have lots of ideas and a lot of people in the team03:20
dholbachhow many people are working on getting the changes you propose into Ubuntu?03:20
Uzuulelmo: team members, working together on the same aims...03:20
Uzuuldholbach: some 10 peoples really active. but we are quickly growing...03:21
dudanogueiraUzuul, i know a very good gfx designer. vdepizzol. he probably will be very interested in design it.03:21
dholbachI'm asking because the goals you propose in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MediaCenter/SoftwareSpecs look quite some work03:21
Uzuuldholbach: we work a lot upstream, so hiting ubuntu by side effect...03:22
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Uzuuldholbach: Elisa team already address a lot ;-) Isn't it Kaleo03:22
KaleoAbout the artwork, we have a graphist in the Elisa team03:22
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Uzuuldudanogueira: thanks for this. I'll contact him...03:23
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KaleoFeature-wise, Elisa is meant to achieve many of the points listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MediaCenter/SoftwareSpecs soon03:23
sabdflas i understand it, the initial step is just packaging Elisa, right?03:23
sabdflthat in itself would be a very good start03:24
dudanogueiraUzuul, he is wright here: http://vdepizzol.wordpress.com/03:24
jsgotangcothat's how i got it as well03:24
jsgotangcopackage Elisa, and have it on Ubuntu as a good platform03:24
sabdflthat's fine by me!03:24
Uzuulsabdfl: right ! I'm working, as a DD, with Loic Minier, on this point.03:24
sabdflsuper03:24
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sabdflonce you have a core piece of software like that in place, you can build a custom derivative easily enough03:25
Uzuulsabdfl: but that's just a small beginning. The big things comes then ;-)03:25
sabdflwell, let's take one step at a time :-)03:25
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lavaramanohi03:25
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jsgotangcothere's huge interest in having free software in the entertainment hub and having this go along with Ubuntu will definitely create a following03:26
Uzuulsabdfl: right, but some things can be done in // without impacting the schedule (like the LIRC improvements) ;-)03:26
sabdflwe get a LOT of requests for media centre functionality, so it will be great to be able to point folks at Elisa03:26
sabdflLIRC?03:26
Seveasinfrared03:26
Seveasremote control things03:26
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jsgotangcoahh for all-in-one remotes03:26
makosabdfl: absolutely03:26
Treenaks(shouldn't lirc be replaced by proper kernel input drivers?)03:26
dholbachI'm very happy you're keen on getting this done and are so enthusiastic about it; I'm with sabdfl here: I'd recommend splitting up the long list of goals in tiny tiny tasks, so you can easily track them and get people involved with them03:26
Uzuulsabdfl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoteControls03:26
DavieyTreenaks, being worked on already03:27
TreenaksDaviey: \o/03:27
UzuulDaviey: can you contact me back for more info? I have a task underway upstream on that...03:28
DavieyUzuul, pm03:28
Uzuuldholbach: the tasks splitting is planned.03:28
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sabdflUzuul: what do you need from us right now?03:29
Uzuulsabdfl: an official blessing, and a mailing list.03:29
sabdfl+1 from me03:30
MikeB-+1 from me, definitely an area Ubuntu should support03:30
jsgotangcothere's some work to be done, but it seems there is more work being accomplished upstream, so I would give my +1 as well to have something for Ubuntu in the future03:31
dholbach+103:31
makoif you really have ~30 members, it seems that this would be overdue03:31
mako+1 from me03:31
sabdflelmo?03:32
dholbachUzuul: it'd be nice to hear back from you team every now and then to see how you're progressing (maybe on one of the other mailing lists)03:33
elmo+103:33
sabdflUzuul: i think you can proceed, elmo will likely chime in with additional comments and questions in due course03:33
sabdflok03:33
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sabdflcongrats Uzuul! please keep us posted, and good luck building your team03:33
jsgotangcoUzuul: good luck along with the team!03:33
sabdflok, loco's!03:33
Kaleothank you guys :)03:33
sabdflkjcole: around?03:33
Uzuulsabdfl: thanks fellows. I'll keep you informed (any prefered ml?)03:33
philn\o/03:33
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hkucool :)03:34
sabdflUzuul: keep the UWN folks abreast of news that the whole community will be interested in, and perhaps report back here every month or so initially03:34
sabdfldcteam!03:34
dudanogueiraUzuul, congrats!03:34
sabdfllet's go03:34
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beuno*notes03:34
kjcoleHi. The Washington, DC LoCo Team's been around for a while but we were under the impression that we'd been formalized.03:35
jsgotangcoanyone from DC team aside from kjcole03:35
jsgotangcoahh03:35
Uzuulall: thanks. we'll do the necessary to succeed. see you soon. bye03:35
flintjsgotangco, I am here.03:35
beunoUzuul: get in touch with me for the UWN03:35
kjcolejelkner's on, but teaching class, so attendance is spotty at best.03:36
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jonohi all03:36
VooDoohay jono03:36
Seveashi j.03:36
sabdfli've been aware of this team for some time, also thought they were formalised03:36
kjcoleWe've now got a forum, and are scheduling meetings.03:36
jsgotangcoyes same here03:36
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jsgotangcoand this is a fairly active team in the US, if not the first03:36
jsgotangco(especially in the education front)03:37
sabdflqq03:37
sabdflhow does he do that?03:37
Seveasunicode03:37
jsgotangcolol03:37
sabdflah03:37
Florencialol03:37
flintsabdfl, I formed this group after Ubuntu Down Under. that was a while ago....03:37
Seveaslots of madness in there :)03:37
kjcoleOur web site is undergoing change now, as we work with high school students, and they get the opportunity to redesign it.03:37
ograoh, hey flint !03:37
sabdflok, kjcole do you want anything other than a quick ack? we know and love ya :-)03:38
Treenakssabdfl: www.xs4all.nl/~johnpc/uniud/03:38
flintsabdfl, nice touch the unicode! hey ollie!03:38
jsgotangcoyes, i even got to talk to jeffrey elkner in person that they were forming something...03:38
kjcolesabdfl, cute trick. I gotta learn that with the upside down text.03:38
makosure, i'd be in a bunch of touch with flint and kjcole about the team03:38
jonothe dc team looks promising03:38
kjcoleI guess we're just looking for the official blessing / rubber stamp.03:38
VorianI can vouch that the DC team does a LOT for the DC area...  Great team!03:38
jonomembership is quite low though03:38
makoif anything, i think we might have really pushed the team before there was a formal procedure03:38
sabdflkjcole: any recent events or highlights you can tell us about?03:38
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kjcoleWe're planning the Free/Open Source Software in Education conference (FOSSED) for August.  That's the biggest thing on our plate.03:39
jelknerwe are setting up several community computing center in the dc area using edubuntu03:40
sabdflwhere will that be held?03:40
flintsabdfl, they have the yhslug meeting coming up Friday.03:40
kjcoleOnce again, we'll be doing Software Freedom Day (year 3 for us) and the Takoma Park Folk Festival (year 2) in the fall.03:40
jonokjcole: what plans do you have to grow the membership?03:40
jelknerjono: our membership doubled in the last month03:40
jonojelkner: right03:40
kjcoleGallaudet University, my place of gainful employment.  But we're aiming at K-12 primarily.03:40
Vorianjono, they have a new forum on ubuntu forums, that should be a big boost.03:40
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jelknerwe really need to just be more aggressive in asking folks to formalize it03:41
jelknerwe've been a bit lax in that03:41
flintjono, the goal is also aimed at the U.S. high school age 11-18 years old...03:41
popeysabdfl, elmo, mako, I have to disappear, but Daviey asked me to flag wave for him. Consider this a flag wave :)03:41
makopopey: sounds good, thanks03:41
jonoright03:41
kjcoleFor a team that's based around an area not even considered a state, how big a membership should we have?  We're trying to keep it to people who are genuinely interested enough to get signed up on Launchpad...03:41
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jsgotangcosurely you can get more people with enough exposure to local events?03:42
MikeB-jono: the DC area is a different beast, since it is such a commuter town.03:43
jelkneri have a question about this...03:44
jelknerwe touch a lot of people03:44
jonoteam looks good to me03:44
flintThe point of the DC LoCo is that it should be "grandfathered" in because it lead the whole LoCo concept.  Is this a numbers game, or is having representation in the US Capitol just a good idea?03:44
jelknermost of them will not become "members"03:44
jonobut I would like them to concentrate on growing membership03:44
jelknerwe think of members as activists03:44
kjcoleWell, there are people who are interested as end-users...   And, we're starting to get local "competition" (for lack of a friendlier word).03:44
jelknerwe will work for more members03:44
sabdfli don't think there's a "necessary threshold" of numbers03:45
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sabdfland the DC team has pioneered a number of great concepts in the use of free software in education03:45
jsgotangcoit still does for sure03:45
makothe only reason that the DC loco isn't "official" is that they predate the official concept03:45
sabdflso i'm +1 on formalising them as an Ubuntu LoCo team03:45
dholbachI'm personally quite happy with what the DC team did until now03:45
jonoindeed, membership is not an identification of a good team, it just helps with sustainability, and it is clear the DC team is doing good work03:45
kjcole(Within a short subway ride we have the DCLUG, NOVALUG, YHSLUG, UMDLUG, DC Loco, NE US Regional Loco, MD Loco...03:45
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flintThe DC LoCo is also affiliated with no less than three LUGs in the DC area, in DC, Maryland and Virginia.03:45
dholbach(and thought it was formalised already)03:46
kjcoleWe were just first among LoCo's.)03:46
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makoi thin it should be *every* teams goal to grow membership in that one of the goals to spread the word03:46
makothat said, while the numbers of participants can be a very good sign of the activity within a loco, it shouldn't be a litmus test03:46
jonomako: exactly03:46
flintmako, we spread the code, and all else comes to pass.03:46
dholbach+1 from me: uo o03:46
makojono: i mean, 1 person is not  much of a team :)03:46
Uzuulbeuno: ok, I'll update you asap for the first milestones.03:46
flint:^)03:47
jsgotangco+1 as well o03:47
jonomako: heh03:47
mako+1 from me03:47
MikeB-+1 from me03:47
makothis upside text is making me naseous03:47
jonomako: you should have seen a recent approval application I got ;)03:47
flintI gotta learn how to do the upside down thing...  Thanks to all!03:47
mako"No (Wo)Man Is A LoCo"03:48
jsgotangcojelkner: whatever happened to colin applegate03:48
jelknerhe is back03:48
jelknerwas away at college03:48
jelknernow back for the summer03:48
jsgotangcogood to hear03:48
jsgotangcotime flies03:48
SeveasNext: beuno and the Argentina team03:48
makoalthought they might be loco03:48
kjcoleThank you all.  Does one of you update the LoCo page or shall we move ourselves?03:48
flintColin is asleep as one could expect from most teenagers...03:48
Voriancongrats kjcole and flint!!!  uo o :)03:49
beunothanks Seveas03:49
makoa particiuarly appropriate comment for the argentina team?03:49
jojopasGood Evening sirs. It's getting awfully late here and I need to go home. But before I leave, I would like to endorse Mr. Dax Umaming. My name is Jojo Pascua and I attended mr. Umaming's Ubuntu Training held at Lourdes College in Daet, Camarines Norte, Philippines last April 11. I learned a lot from him and he accomplished a lot in just one day. His training was very precise and will surely help out the school. I'm now using Kubuntu. By the03:49
jojopasway,he managed to convert the whole school to use Ubuntu. And because of him, single-handedly, 800 Kinder, Elementary, high School, and College students will be using Xubuntu 7 this coming school year in June. Also, he'll be back by the 3rd or 4th week of June for another trainig, but this time it's for the local gov't of Daet, with gov't agencies joining him. I hope you consider him. I'm not a member of Ubuntu rarely in IRC, so my apologies if03:49
jojopasI disturbed anyone. thank you and Goodnigth!03:49
juliuxkjcole, why are you wearing a fedora on the picture on your wikisite?03:49
beunomornin' sabdfl03:49
jsgotangcoummm jojopas bless you03:49
jojopassorry03:49
kjcoleBecause Ubuntu doesn't have as nice a looking hat. ;-)03:49
beunoI'm Martin Albisetti and I'm representing the Argentina LoCo today. The team has been active for over eight months, and in that time we've grown up to over 100 members in Launchpad alone, participated in a few Instalfests and promoted Ubuntu all over the Country. Some of us have even traveled over 400km to other locations and setup booths to talk to people in conferences (see some great pictures linked in the Wiki). We also provide *a lot* of03:49
beunosupport to users in the forums and Mailing List. Links: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArgentinaTeamApprovalApplication and https://launchpad.net/~uluga/03:49
flintjuliux, I agree with you on this point.  But I think the Red Hat is worn in pity.03:50
flint:^003:50
sabdflthanks jojopas03:50
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jonohave we not got to the catalan team yet?03:51
Seveas(I added that to the wikipage of Dax Umaming)03:51
rafael_carrerasNice to meet you, Council03:51
makojuliux, kjcole: fedoras are nice hats03:51
makojono: nope03:51
jonomako: right03:51
sabdflok, Catalan team?03:51
rafael_carrerasher we are03:52
sabdflfire away03:52
rafael_carrerasThe Ubuntu Catalan LoCo Team is a very active, fast growing group of people that gathers the Catalan-speaking users community of Ubuntu in all its varieties. The scope of the Catalan LoCo Team is mainly the Catalan Countries, that is, the territories where Catalan is traditionally spoken, where members and volunteers are scattered practically all over their geography. Its aim is to support and promote Ubuntu amongst the Catalan03:52
rafael_carrerasspeaking community as it is the most important resource of information about Ubuntu in this language. We are a very heterogeneus and varied group of people focused on spreading the free software philosophy, specially Ubuntu, and have several projects in mind that will be carried out by our different workgroups in the near future.03:52
jonocan I just say that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/ApprovalApplication is the finest example of an approval application seen yet in the project03:52
jonowell done03:52
alex_muntada:-)03:52
rafael_carrerasthanks03:52
arualavi:)03:52
hugolp:)03:53
wgarcia:)03:53
orestes_wow!03:53
papapep__thanks03:53
carlesoriol:)03:53
CoMp4c7:)03:53
Seveasjono, whoops, thought i didn't see rafael03:53
makook wait...03:53
makoi'm getting really confused03:53
dholbachlet's stay at the catalan team now03:55
sabdflmako:  happens to me quite often too03:55
sergigood job!03:55
flintpqs su03:55
makoi just got done reading through the stuff on the argentine team03:55
beunomako: Catalan team is up first, we got confused03:56
makoalright03:56
dholbachthe team seems to be up and running quite well - lots of people on the mailing list and nice wiki pages as well03:56
jonook catalan03:56
makodholbach: the catalan team?03:56
dholbachyes03:56
jonoI think the team seems to be doing excellent work03:56
jsgotangcoi am not to familiar with catalan or its history, but from what i understand this is a team composed of people using catalan the language so its possible to have members in spain, france and italy?03:56
makoalright, we're doing the catalan team, in case anyone else is confused03:56
sabdflthis is pretty fantastic - i love the fact that there is participation from cultural, artistic, development, linguisitic and educational sources03:57
alex_muntadajsgotangco: that's right03:57
jsgotangcothis is very intereting03:57
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/En says "Define activities and objectives." on your TODO list - rafael_carreras: do you have any plans for the next weeks and months?03:57
jonooh03:57
rafael_carrerasnext Sunday we wil have an install--party03:58
jonoso this is about the catalan language?03:58
alex_muntadadholbach: this is the roadmap, in english https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/ApprovalApplication#head-894924807cb56c0fdfc7c58a49b8de0cf68b5c7303:58
makojono: agreed completely03:58
sabdflit's very exciting to see this level of activity in the region, two and 1/2 years after our Mataro distro summit :-)03:58
makothis is a fantastic application03:58
alex_muntadajono: what do you mean exactly?03:58
sabdfl+1 from me, and congratulations to the team leaders on doing such a fantastic job of building a diverse community03:59
jsgotangco"buntu Catalan User community gathers Catalan-speaking users of Ubuntu in all its varieties. The scope of the Catalan LoCo Team is mainly [WWW]  the Catalan Countries, that is, the territories where Catalan is traditionally spoken, where members and volunteers are spread practically all over their geography."03:59
dholbachalex_muntada: thanks - it looks great03:59
jonoI am keen to see loco teams based mainly on a country or state, and then those teams to come together to form language coalitions03:59
makoi have been considering moving to barcelona for a bit, this is increasingly my desire to do so :)03:59
jonois this team for a specific country?03:59
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Seveasjono, a specific region04:00
rafael_carrerasmako: wellcom, then :-)04:00
alex_muntadajono: no, there's no Catalan country... it's about Catalan Countries04:00
jsgotangcoSpain, Italy, France, Andorra04:00
alex_muntadahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_countries04:00
toniher_unihi mako! I see you liked Vilanova04:00
jonoalex_muntada: right, so this team spans a number of countries04:00
jsgotangco(or areas where catalan is spoken that is)04:00
toniher_uniHi all04:00
MikeB-Northern Spain and Southern France mostly, I think04:00
carlesoriolhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_Countries04:00
alex_muntadajono: that's it... i.e. in Andorra the official language is Catalan04:01
jonoright04:01
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makothe ultimate sign of a great team is that makes people want to move to their community to participate, +1 from me :)04:01
dholbach+1 from me too - your team is amazing04:01
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jsgotangcoit is a fantastic concept +1 from me04:01
jonoI vote a +1, the team is clearly doing excellent work04:01
Seveasjono, you can't vote :)04:01
jonoand setting a standard for approval applications04:01
rafael_carrerasthanks a lot!04:01
jonoSeveas: not officially, but anyone can weigh in04:01
MikeB-+1 from me, your are setting a fantastic example for other LoCos04:01
sabdflrafael_carreras: it would be amazing if you guys could write up a 1-page summary of how you inspire your team, which we could share with the rest of the comunityvia Ubuntu Weekly News04:01
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rafael_carrerassabdfl: ok04:02
makoi think a lot of other teams can learn a lot from you04:02
beunorafael_carreras: get in touch with me for that, we have a "special edition" on LoCos04:02
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rafael_carrerasbeuno: got it04:02
beuno*we can have, that is04:03
makobeuno: ok, i guess you're up now, but we have your blurb from last time04:04
beunomako: want me to paste it in again?04:04
makono, no, i don't thnk that's necessary04:06
makobeuno: so you've been active for roughly 6 months now, it seems04:07
jsgotangcobueno: how many active members are there from the LP's 100 listed04:07
jonoargentina team looks good, good to see regular meetings and different activities04:07
jonohealthy membership04:07
makoreasongly consistent traffic on the list, good site04:07
dholbachthe forum and mailing list look quite active - how's the "Support network for beginners" coming along?04:07
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beunomako: the team was created in September 2006, and it took a few months to start getting our resources together04:07
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beunojsgotangco: I'd say around 30ish04:08
beunoshawarma: Support for beginners is our #1 activity on there04:08
sabdflthat;s not bad04:08
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dholbachdo you use a wiki for support answers? or a mailing list for questions?04:08
sabdfli see the team is moderated - what criteria do you apply to allow people into the team?04:08
beunowe have around 10 or 12 VERY active members04:08
beunodholbach: we answer on a case-by-case basis on botht he forum and mailing list04:09
beunosabdfl: the team is moderated mainly just to be able to know new members when they arrive, no special requierements04:09
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beunoI like to great them :D04:10
sabdflok04:10
sabdflnice to see you using the mentorship piece in LP :-)04:10
beunowe've been growing pretty fast the past few months, many new members each week all over the country04:10
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sabdfland the web site is very slick04:10
sabdflalso, martin is doing amazing work on UWN04:11
sabdflso, all in all, +1 from me04:11
beunosabdfl: I'm trying to teach everyone to use Launchpad, I'm holding a session for everyone in the LoCo in a few weeks04:11
beunosabdfl: thanks, boredandblogging, which is up for membership now has had a lot to do with that :D04:11
beunoa lot of the LoCo members are here right now watching, maybe they can speak up?04:12
jsgotangcogood idea04:12
eternal1d1hi04:12
marianomHi there. Mariano here, I'm with the Argentina Team too04:12
spg76hello everyone04:12
duckmanhi!04:12
jmorelliHello, thanks Ubuntu, !!!04:12
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lavaramanohi there04:12
eternal1d1hi, my name is Diego, I'm from the Argentina Locoteam04:12
duckmanhere from the arg team =)04:12
mlthi :)04:12
sabdflwelcome all04:13
dholbachhello Argentina! :-)04:13
sabdfland great work!04:13
lavaramanoarg member here04:13
FlorenciaFfrom the Argentina Team04:13
mltthanks sabdfl04:13
sabdflanybody else from the CC care to weigh in?04:13
jsgotangcogreat to see everyone, +1 from me, i just want to ask, any major event the loco would be invoved with04:13
mako+1 from me as well04:13
dholbach+1 from me - well done everybody in the Argentina team04:13
MikeB-+1 here04:14
dudanogueirabueno, im from the ubuntu-br loco, we can exchange some ideas :) feel free to contact us :)04:14
sabdflalrighty04:14
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beunojsgotangco: yes, we participated in the Flisol event (Instalfest all over latin america), and installed Ubuntu on close to 100 PCs04:14
SeveasMembership candidates04:14
jmorelliiupiiii, yeah !!!! beuno, you'r the one man !!!04:14
SeveasWe have 9 of them this time04:14
sabdflis everyone on the list, here?04:15
beunoright, thanks sabdfl, mako, MikeB-, jsgotangco04:15
Seveasboredandblogging, you're the first (Tm_T and nealcmb are missing)04:15
Davieysabdfl, here04:15
duckmanthanks for the membership!04:15
boredandbloggingok...04:15
jsgotangcoTm_T?04:15
marianomthanks!!!!!04:15
boredandbloggingHi, I'm Nick. I've been a linux user on and off for about 10 years. I've been using Ubuntu exclusively since Breezy. I started getting involved in the Ubuntu community at the beginning of this year. I've been helping the Georgia US LoCo get started and helping out as much as I can on the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter (it was Corey Burger's idea for me to apply for membership). And recently I've started working on the LoCo h04:15
boredandbloggingosting admin team. My wiki page is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NickAli04:15
eternal1d1thanks !!!04:15
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lipe_thanks!!04:16
beunodudanogueira: will get in touch with you, thanks04:16
Vorianboredandblogging, has done tremendous work for the Marketing Team, his loco team in Georgia (US) and the US teams project.  He is a diamond in the rough!04:16
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FlorenciaThanks!04:16
slackwarelifeI'm Massimo, my launchpad id https://launchpad.net/~slackwarelife,   I started with linux 5 years ago. Thanks04:16
atoponcei'm here to show my support for boredandblogging in building the GA LoCo team. he knows what he's doing, and is very active.04:17
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dholbachslackwarelife: hang on, it's still boredandblogging's turn04:17
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Seveasslackwarelife, please wait your turn04:17
beuno*behind04:17
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jsgotangcowiki is very informative and shows sustained contribution in UWN and documentation04:17
slackwarelifedholbach: ok, sorry :-[04:17
MikeB-boredandblogging: where at in Georgia04:17
boredandblogging:-)04:17
dholbachboredandblogging: nice wiki page04:17
boredandbloggingMikeB-, suburbs of Atlanta, Smyrna04:18
nixternalCC: There isn't much boredandblogging and hasn't helped out with around here when it comes to the marketing team and with the US LoCo Teams! He is my hero, well jsgotangco is my hero, so boredandblogging would be #2 ;p04:18
boredandbloggingnixternal, lol04:18
nixternalenjoy my wonderful abuse of the english language04:18
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MikeB-boredandblogging: cool, I'm an old member of Athens CHUGALUG04:18
boredandbloggingMikeB-, the guy who started the Georgia LoCo is a member of CHUGALUG04:19
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ZelutWhen I traveled to GA a few weeks ago boredandblogging setup a meet between myself and some of the team.  It was really productive I think.04:19
VorianCC: Since I met boredandblogging, he has done nothing but volunteer for projects, and see them through.  He is also too modest to tell you he is a LoCo website admin appointed by the great newz2000 himself.04:19
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MikeB-boredandblogging also does great work on the Forums04:20
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MikeB-definitely a +1 from me04:20
jsgotangcoI am happy to give my +1 as he is very much involved in almost all facets of community as well as the testimonials presented04:20
jsgotangco(seems to be long overdue even)04:20
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Vorianjsgotangco, true true :)04:21
jsgotangcoothers?04:22
Seveashow many +1s do we need?04:22
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Vorianthe other CC members are in awe of boredandblogging04:22
Seveaswe have 8 CC members, is 4 +1s enough, or do we want 5?04:23
makoyes, this looks fine +1 from me04:23
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dudanogueiraim here :P04:23
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makoSeveas: you should definitely have a majority of those present04:23
makoSeveas: and ideally a majority of the council04:23
MikeB-Seveas: I assume a majority04:23
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jsgotangcopoint of order: a majority of the council would mean 5 members that means at least 5 should be present in every meeting04:24
Seveaswe have 7 present so we need 404:24
dholbachSeveas: we have 6 present, no?04:26
dholbachjsgotangco: yes, we should have 5 in every meeting - that's how I see it too04:26
makojsgotangco: yes, that makes sense04:26
MikeB-corey and matthew are out04:27
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dholbachI'm happy with boredandblogging has worked on until now, so he has my +1 too04:27
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elmo+104:28
mako+1 for board and blogging04:28
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makoif i iddn't already04:28
Vorianw00t! congrats boredandblogging!!!!!04:29
alinscom ha anat?04:29
boredandbloggingwohoo! thanks04:29
Seveasdholbach, ah, sorry04:29
Seveasboredandblogging now has +404:29
Seveassabdfl, elmo ?04:29
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Zelutboredandblogging: welcome04:29
etankgood job boredandblogging04:29
elmoSeveas: I already voted04:29
elmo15:28 < elmo> +104:29
dholbachSeveas: np04:29
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atoponceboredandblogging: congrats04:29
VorianSeveas, he has 5 +1's04:29
Seveaselmo, one of us is lagging, I saw your vote after my call :)04:30
MikeB-boredandblogging: congrats04:30
boredandbloggingthanks everyone04:30
Seveasanyway, congrats boredandblogging04:30
alex_muntadaalins was asking if the catalan team was approved... alins: yes!04:30
Vorianwell deserved boredandblogging :)04:30
Seveasdudanogueira, you're up04:30
dudanogueiraok!04:30
sabdflwelcome, boredandblogging04:31
dudanogueirahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DudaNogueira04:31
makoi might have to disappear in half an hour04:31
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boredandbloggingsabdfl, thanks04:31
dudanogueiraim spreading the ubuntu all over i can.04:31
sabdfli have to switch to a conf call, so please keep going without me, will read scrollback04:32
dudanogueiraI'm an active member of ubuntu-br-mg, and also working to expand the Ubuntu Spirit for all over the MG state and, if possible, all over my country. My focus is on something i call "Users Profile Documentation", participating and organizing events (mainly in br-mg) and new users support.04:32
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makoMG is minas gerais?04:32
dudanogueiramako, yeah!04:32
SeveasI'm disappearing noe04:32
Seveasnow*04:32
jsgotangcothanks Seveas04:32
Seveaswill do lp/wiki duties later04:33
makoSeveas: thanks!04:33
dudanogueirathe most two active loco teams here in BR are MG (licio and me) and BA (Alexandro Silva and Fabio Nogueira)04:33
dholbachthanks a lot Seveas04:33
makodudanogueira: MG is also one of the most populous states, right?04:33
makoare you in belo horizonte?04:34
dudanogueiramako on, SP is. we are the thrid ot second most popular04:34
dudanogueiramako no, SP...04:34
makoand are things centered around bh? i see it's a very large state04:34
dudanogueirayes, im in belo horizonte04:34
dudanogueiramako, Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro is the "center" of brazil. but they loco isnt so strong04:35
jwendelli confirm the great job dudanogueira is doing. He's very active on IRC also, by helping people04:35
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makodudanogueira: i like the start you've gotten to on some of your wiki pages04:36
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jsgotangcohow active the ubuntu locos are during FISL? i see a jono pic heh04:37
dudanogueiramako, my next plan is to help the guys of the ubuntu games. theres a very a mount of infos, but all in english. games is very important to catch kids attention. On FISL, when we did a local lan a lot of kids was amazed with the cool games04:37
dudanogueirajsgotangco, ubuntu here is growing fast. on FISL i can say that we were the most active user groups, and more active then lot of commercial stands04:38
dudanogueira(sorry about the bad english :P)04:38
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dudanogueiraa lot of people asking for help, cds, fotos, sticks every time!04:38
makoi see you have testimonials on your page04:39
makois anyone here to cheer for dudanogueira?04:39
dudanogueirajwendell, and licio, but licio is on a meeting on his work, and should be back in few minutes04:39
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dudanogueirathe other guys coudnt be here now, but let their testimonials04:39
jwendellmako, i confirm the great job dudanogueira is doing. He's very active on IRC also, by helping people04:39
makoalright04:39
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makoyou've a good deal of visible activity that goes back well into last year04:40
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makothe documentation for some of it could be better, but with a little digging there's a pretty consistent and i suspect sustainable contribution04:40
makothat i think makes a real difference04:40
makoespecially in your loco04:40
MikeB-+1, great work04:40
dudanogueiramako, im good with interviews and all. on FISL i talked for the main TV Station as the a community member04:41
dholbach+1 from me too04:41
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jsgotangcook looks good then04:42
dholbachelmo?04:42
jsgotangcoelmo?04:42
jsgotangco:D04:42
makowho's up next04:42
makoi turn into a pumpkin soon04:42
elmo+104:42
jsgotangcook DPic04:42
dudanogueiraright now im unemployed (on my own) and working with a UFMG project. last week i installed ubuntu on 20 pcs on their lab, and will continue into the secretary area04:42
jsgotangcowelcome dudanogueira!04:42
dudanogueiraUFMG == Federal College04:42
jwendellcongrats, and welcome, dudanogueira04:42
Belutzjsgotangco, hi... and congrats :D04:42
dudanogueiragreaaaat!04:42
nealmcbI"m sorry I missed my spot earlier, but am ready any time.04:42
makoDpic?04:42
dholbachcongratulations dudanogueira04:42
makoDanny Piccirillo?04:43
MikeB-congrats dudanogueira04:43
jsgotangcoseems not here04:43
dudanogueirathank you all! Soon i'll be here again asking for a maling for the ubuntu games and sharing some other news :)04:43
makook, moving on04:43
makothe ominimously named, slackwarelife...04:43
jsgotangcolol04:43
slackwarelifeI'm Massimo, I'm a Italian lan admin, I work in a Banck and I have started to use linux 5 years ago with Red Had. After I met Slackware using server and there was a big love. Now I'm helping in launchpad answer (I'm a member of Ubuntu support team) and I try to manager some bug. This is my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Slackwarelife (The first part in Italian, the second in English). Sorry for my Engl04:43
slackwarelifeI write this before, hi all04:44
makois it possible to grant membership on the condition of a nick change ;)04:44
dholbachhehe04:44
jsgotangcolol04:44
makonah, slackware was my first too :)04:44
dholbachwhat about bddebian then? ;-)04:44
makomy first love.. the only problem was finding 50 floppy disks :)04:45
dudanogueiraslackware, as jono saw, is a very strong community here in brazil nowdays04:45
jonoindeed04:45
dholbachslackwarelife: you are quite busy on the answers tracker it seem04:45
slackwarelifemako: I start with Slack my linux experience, I love it too04:45
jsgotangcoimpressive karma04:45
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jsgotangco19205 in answer tracker04:45
makothis is true, almost all answers04:46
slackwarelifedholbach: I like to help who I can04:46
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jsgotangcobut there has been a flurry of activity yetersday04:46
makoslackwarelife: you seem to do a pretty impressive job of it :)04:46
makoslackwarelife: how long have you been involved in ubuntu?04:46
slackwarelifemako: I do all I can. Yesterd my wark was very big04:46
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slackwarelifemako 3 weeks04:47
makoslackwarelife: ok, i'm going to ask that you come back in a couple months04:47
makoslackwarelife: the requirement for membership is significant and sustained contributions04:47
makoyou've got hte first part, but not the second yet04:47
makoi presonally like to see at least 3 months of contributions to the project04:47
makowe want members to people who have put in a long term invement and gotten to know people, etc etc04:48
slackwarelifemako: ok, I understand04:48
makoslackwarelife: so my advice would be, KEEP IT UP! :)04:48
makoyou're doing a great job04:48
dholbachslackwarelife: I'm very happy to see you helping out with answers and bugs, but I agree with mako.04:49
makolets see you in a couple months and, if your history is any indiciation, it will be a very easy decision :)04:49
makoslackwarelife: cool, see you soon!04:49
makoKnightlust: you around?04:49
KnightlustMy name is Dax Solomon Umaming. Been using Ubuntu since 2005 (Hoary). I'm most involved in advocacy. Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DaxSolomonUmaming Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~knightlust04:49
jsgotangcosame here, keep up those answer tracker performance04:49
makoKnightlust: if your full name really Dax Solomon Umaming?04:50
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Knightlustyes04:50
makobecause i have to say, that's the coolest name ever :)04:50
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jsgotangcolol04:50
makoKnightlust: you're lucky04:51
Knightlustmako: my dad's a hippie, that;s why04:51
makoi get stuck with the Benny Hill's name.. you don't want to know about my father ;)04:51
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kjcoleWe had a guy working here named DejaVu Harmony...  Seriously.04:51
dholbachKnightlust: it seems you're involved in a lot of different Launchpad teams - what have you been focusing on?04:52
jsgotangcoKnightlust: coming from Baguio city, i am not surprised04:52
`23meg kjcole, that's more like a font name :)04:52
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Knightlustkubuntu a few months and laptop. but now i'm really into xubuntu and edubuntu04:52
Knightlustwell mostly xfce on edubuntu04:53
jsgotangcocan you elaborate more on your community contribution?04:53
dholbachKnightlust: did you chat with ogra and janimo/gpocentek already?04:53
KnightlustI'm now involved with the government of baguio. we'll be installing LTSP on edubuntu in the next few months04:54
Knightlustelections in the philippines, got it easy with the politicians04:54
=== dudanogueira need to go. Thank you all!
Knightlustdholbach: not yet04:54
jsgotangco"got it easy with politicians" ?04:55
Knightlusti actually got back from a talk. engineering society of saint louis university, 2 hours talk a while ago04:55
ograKnightlust, oh, i'd appreciate if someone could care for the xfce stuff we have on the edubuntu addon CD now :)04:56
Knightlustjsgotangco: it's easy convincing them, they need my vote04:56
ografeel free to pop in to #edubuntu at any time :)04:56
Knightlustwill do ogra04:56
ogra:)04:56
jsgotangcoKnightlust: i am not sure I'd like to take that in a nice way04:56
sabdfl+1 from me, belatedly, for dudanoguiera, for contributions to the IRC, lists and local team building04:57
Knightlusthehe, well, they love to take credit for it. and Gov. Domogan loved the idea04:57
sabdflmako: which TZ are you in?04:58
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sabdfl+1 from me for slackwarelife, on the back of a superb contribution to community support and QA04:59
sabdfloh, noting the 3 week track record, support the suggestion to come back in a month or so05:00
makosabdfl: utc-405:00
slackwarelifesabdfl: thanks, but i understand mako's idea05:00
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Belutzjsgotangco, have a time to chat? :)05:00
jsgotangcoBelutz: feel free to PM05:01
Belutzjsgotangco, ok05:01
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MikeB-+1 for me Knightlust, if it is not too late, seem to be lagging05:01
makono, we didn't decide on Knightlust05:01
BenCyou guys take your time though, we have a light agenda05:01
makoat least lets finish with Knightlust05:02
sabdflKnightlust: how long have you been contributing to the project?05:02
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makoKnightlust: are you associated with a loco?05:02
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Knightlustsince January 2007, but my previous work at a call center, its' 2 years but not really focused into Ubuntu05:03
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Knightlustin our call center, we focus on all distros.. mako: ubuntu-ph05:03
jsgotangcowell what i can say about Knightlust is that he has been very enthusiastic on helping out to organizations that need some sort of orientation towards ubuntu or free software05:05
dholbachit seems that most of your advocacy actions will be in the next weeks05:05
jsgotangcothat as well05:06
jsgotangcofrom what I know, he has been pretty involved in having good webcam support05:06
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dholbachKnightlust: have you been involved with ubuntu-ph for your advocacy work?05:07
Knightlustyes, my work at our lady of lourdes college05:08
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dholbachhave you been working together with other team members for the presentations?05:09
Knightlustdholbach: no, i got them mostly from the research and the presentation wiki05:10
makodholbach: yeah,  that's what i'm trying to get at05:10
makoyou've obviously done great work05:10
sabdfl+1 from me for knightlust05:11
MikeB-+1 for knightlust05:12
makoyeah +1 fro mme05:12
jsgotangcoi would give my +1 as well as I've seen him take action effectively, but am not sure about the politicians thing ;-)05:12
makoKnightlust: but i think your work will benefit from hooking up with others more frequently05:12
makojsgotangco: we can each have our own battles :)05:13
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dholbach+1 from me too05:13
Knightlustmako, will do that05:13
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makosince there's another meeting scheduled here, it might be worth postponing the last two on the list05:13
jsgotangcoi just don't like the idea, we just had our elections yesterday, and its not really a pretty sight05:13
Davieymako, :(05:13
nealmcb:(05:13
dholbachand it'd be nice to hear how your presentations go05:13
`23meg:( indeed05:13
Knightlustthanks all05:13
makoDaviey and `23meg, i guess that's you05:14
`23megyep :)05:14
nealmcbAgain, sorry to miss my spot earlier - it's early here....05:14
jsgotangcoand nealmcb05:14
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Davieymako, one of my supporters has made a special effort to be here - late for a new job! :(05:14
makowell, you'll be first next time :)05:14
makoDaviey: we're already 15 minutes into another meetings time05:14
`23megI think the kernel team isn't in much hurry05:14
kjcoleTa-ta then...05:14
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superm1BenC, would it be okay to at least squeeze one more?05:14
makosuperm1: two more, and with our current timing that might be half an hour05:15
BenCI think we can do with 30 minutes for our meeting, just wondering if there's anyone waiting for it besides the ones that are paid to :)05:15
zulme but I can wait05:15
mbtSame here.  I just like to watch.  :)05:16
superm1me, i'm a bit late for work in trying to wait on this -05:16
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BenCHow about this, I'll move kernel team meeting to #ubuntu-kernel, you guys finish up with CC, that's more important05:17
makoBenC: ok05:17
makoBenC: thanks for being accomidating05:17
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BenCno problem05:17
superm1thx BenC :)05:17
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mako`23meg: go, quickly05:18
`23megHello. I'm a 26 year old hybrid of a freelance designer, graduate student and starving artist living in stanbul, Turkey. I've been using Ubuntu full time since the mid-Warty period, and my most significant contributions have been providing support and writing guides in the forums, where I signed up in March 2005, and doing translations in Rosetta. I'm also one of the leaders of the newly formed Forum Ambassadors team, which is working05:18
`23meg on improving the connection between the forums and the rest of the community.05:18
makoi need to disappear in -15 minutes05:18
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`23meghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MuratGunes05:18
jsgotangcoany forum ambassadors advocating for `23meg05:19
makoholy crap, that's a lot of posts to the forums05:19
`23meg:)05:19
MikeB-I would like to say that 23meg is one of the true leader in the forums. He does a fantastic job there05:19
dholbachmako: yeah, definitely agreed05:19
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mako`23meg: i'm impressed with the bredth of your contributions, and with the depth of your work in the forums05:20
dholbach`23meg: you want to join the MOTUs? anything you'd like to work on?05:20
makoany other testimonials?05:20
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Hobbseefrom what i see, doing a bit fo FA stuff, he seems pretty clueful05:21
PriceChildVery active member, helpful :)05:21
makoor other people from the forums that can speak to the nature of `23meg's contributions as a hole05:21
jsgotangco"hole"05:21
nealmcbsounds more like a mountain than a hole05:21
makowhole, whole05:22
`23megdholbach, I'm planning to look into stuff missing from Universe that gets popular requests in the forums; whatever part of it I can maintain05:22
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dholbach`23meg: let me know how your way into MOTU goes :-)05:23
sabdfl+1 from me for `23meg on forums contribution!05:23
`23megdholbach, will do :)05:23
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dholbach+1 from me too05:23
MikeB-+1 for me, only because I can't give a +2 or more05:23
dholbachMikeB-: hehe05:23
`23meg:) thanks everyone.05:23
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Davieyme?05:24
makowell +1 from me, not a hard decisoin05:24
makoDaviey: yes, you're up05:24
sabdflDaviey: fire away :-)05:24
DavieyHi, I'm Dave Walker and i would like to be considered to become a Ubuntu Member.  My wikipage is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/davewalker .  I'm currently involved mainly with the Mythtv for Ubuntu and actively contribute to my LoCo (Ubuntu-uk).  Currently I'm No2 contributor to #ubuntu-uk (I'm sure popey is a bot).   I also contribute towards advocacy towards FOSS with my highlight being a recent letter being printed in a UK national newspaper.05:24
nealmcbmako: and if there is time, me also?05:24
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DavieyEverything else should be on the wiki :)05:24
Davieypopey couldn't be here, but sang a song for me (scroll up)05:25
makonealmcb: we'll see05:25
makopopey: i saw it05:25
MikeB-Daviey: I saw it05:25
makosorry, Daviey i aw it05:25
loudmouthmanAnd the Loudmouthman chimes in with Daviey is a fine addition and exemplary community member to the UK and UK irc group.05:25
Daviey(and the UK in general) :)05:26
makoanyone else from the uk loco05:26
superm1Daviey has been a great help with the -mythtv team and newly starting mythbuntu team as well05:26
dholbachDaviey: you're part of ubuntu universe contributors? what have you been up to? also the BugSquad - how did it go in there?05:26
Davieymako, I think only popey and loudmouthman are aware I'm standing05:26
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loudmouthmanwhoops wrong channel !05:27
superm1these last few months he's in the channel as much as possible helping out with support to users coming in and providing more ideas for the team05:27
Davieydholbach, At this stage i have only contributed one package of my own work, but have worked on joint efforts for some other packages05:27
dholbachDaviey: great, which one is that? have you helped out with reviewing or how have the joint efforts worked out?05:28
Davieydholbach, There is a link at the bottom of the wiki to the package.05:28
dholbachah ok05:29
dholbachwhat about the bugsquad? what did you do in there? did you find it easy to contribute?05:29
Davieynot at all!  It can be quite difficult the interact with the bugreporter05:29
DavieyEspecially trying to get dumps and other crash reports from users05:30
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makowell, you've done a wide variety of different types of work and have been around and active for a long time05:32
sabdflDaviey: do you have any feedback on tools we can build to improve that, for example, apport?05:32
makoi'm happy with membership, +1 from me05:32
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superm1Daviey,  has been quite instrumental in mythbuntu's start, and managed to go the extra mile in getting us our domain.  He ended up having to phone someone half way across the world who had already purchased it, and got him to join our team. (you can see the site in the works at www.mythbuntu.org )05:32
X3NI love Daviey05:32
Davieysabdfl, certainly - i think if amport could be interactive05:33
sabdfland could you give us a quick status report on mythbuntu?05:33
Davieysabdfl, i suspect there are triagers who are happy to man 1-1 at inital report... We are a big enough community with timezones and such05:33
superm1atm we have an alpha ready05:33
superm1that works as a live cd frontend05:33
superm1and a basic frontend/backend installation05:33
superm1what remains is a lot of work to the installer05:34
superm1to handle the different types of installations05:34
Davieysabdfl, we do have an alpha image avaliable - currently our next task is to get a grip on ubiquity installer05:34
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dholbachDaviey: you also seem to be quite interested in asterisk - do you think there's anything we could improve there?05:35
dholbachhi Burgundavia05:35
Davieydholbach, definitely - we need FreePBX in universe05:35
MikeB-Burgundavia: found some internet I see:)05:35
Burgundaviaindeed05:35
Burgundaviahostel in Madrid05:35
dholbachDaviey: it'd be nice to have a ubuntu-voip team taking care of that05:35
DavieyThat is on my todo list of packages for MOTU05:35
Davieydholbach, that's definitely a team i'd like to join.  Myth team might not like me sharing resources tho :)05:36
superm1:)05:36
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sabdfl+1 from me for Daviey05:36
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jsgotangco+1 from me as well for Daviey05:37
dholbach+1 from me too - it'd be nice to have your input for a ubuntu-voip team :)05:37
Davieydholbach, also UDS seville VOIP improvements :)05:37
MikeB-+1 for me05:38
Burgundaviaanybody working on asterisk is a +1 from me :)05:39
dholbachnealmcb: still around?05:39
DavieyWooo... thanks guys!  And especially thanks to superm1 for making himself late for work to say what he did05:39
dholbachare you the last on our list?05:39
nealmcbyup05:39
nealmcbI woke up a bit late...05:40
superm1congrats Daviey .  catch up with you later05:40
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loudmouthmanCongrats Daviey05:40
sabdfli have to step afk, good luck nealmcb, welcome aboard Daviey05:40
nealmcbI'm Neal McBurnett.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NealMcBurnett   I've been an Ubuntu user, promoter, contributor and distributor since the first release in 2004, on servers and desktops, for myself and several non-profit organizations. I've been active with *nix since 1977 (at Bell Labs) and have never had Windoze on my desktop.05:40
nealmcbif there's time...05:40
Davieythanks sabdfl and cc05:40
jsgotangco1977! I was just 3 years old!05:40
nealmcbI know you want to go, mako....05:40
nealmcbjsgotangco: :-)05:41
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makonealmcb: it's fine. i brought my laptop to the meeting :)05:41
nealmcbI've been active in the Colorado LoCo, having helped Joey start it a year ago.  I've edited a bunch of wiki pages, authored the identity-selector spec and commented on others.  Some examples are linked to from my wiki page.05:41
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nealmcbI'm now working on an Ubucon for Colorado, having helped organize two Barcamps, and beginning to get my feet wet with code contributions via bzr and Launchpad. I'd like to also use my enterprise Linux/Solaris experience from Internet2 and Bell Labs to contribute to the NetworkAuthentication efforts.  And I'm hoping to participate in a Colorado education conference where one of our members is presenting an Ubuntu demo: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/TIE05:41
nealmcbWhat I didn't do was get testimonials from joey stanford, nixternal, ajmitch or some others I can think of05:42
nealmcbI've been "slow but steady" in my contributions....05:42
jsgotangcoanyone from the colorado team at the moment?05:44
makoit looks grewat05:45
makobut i would really like to hear from some people in your loco if that's where you locate most of your contributions05:45
nealmcbOn his page, joey says "These folks are worth getting to know.    Neal McBurnett - Invented the Internet and speaks Esperanto  "05:45
nealmcbHe looked my page over and gave me advice but I forgot to ask him for a testimonial....05:46
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dholbachajmitch might be well sleep now05:46
Burgundaviaindeed05:46
Burgundavianealmcb: any esperanto people here to comment on that translation work?05:47
nealmcbMi dubas... :-)05:47
nealmcbI doubt it05:47
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dholbachnealmcb: you're involved in a lof of specifications - are there any where you'd like to get involved in?05:47
nealmcbThe network auth area is the place05:47
BurgundaviaI see you contributed code to n-a05:48
nealmcbSee e.g. my spec for identity-selector (above)05:48
Burgundaviaanything else aside from the linked code?05:48
nealmcbNot yet in n-a05:48
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Burgundaviahmm, not having any endorsements makes it hard to judge05:49
nealmcbajmitch included it, but it was just better doc for the README :-)05:49
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makonealmcb: why don't you just have the loco people send testimonials05:49
makoi'm happy to make a decision by email05:49
nealmcb:-)05:49
dholbachand the network-authentication people too05:49
makoi don't suspect it will be problematic05:49
makoright05:49
Burgundaviathat works for me as well05:50
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jsgotangcosame here should be easy enough05:50
dholbachyeah, I'm happy with that too05:50
nealmcbmail to who?05:50
makonealmcb: just have folks email community-council@lists.ubuntu.com05:50
jsgotangco(not to mention i gotta crash as well)05:50
makoyeah, this meeting has gone on too long05:50
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nealmcbwill do - thanks - I'll let you go....05:50
makothanks everyone05:50
dholbachthanks a lot nealmcb05:50
makoone last thing05:50
dholbachthanks05:50
makonext meeting05:50
makotwo weeks from today, how about a bit later05:50
mako22UTC, lets say?05:50
Burgundaviathat works05:50
jsgotangcoshould work for me if i get up early05:51
mako5/29 22UTC05:51
dholbach20 utc maybe? else it will be ~2-3 in the morning for me when the meeting finishes :)05:51
makosounds good05:51
makodholbach: 2 hours meeting05:51
makoi think we should get facist about this05:51
dholbachso 2 in the morning, when it finishes05:51
makoespecially now that we're just a much larger group05:51
makook05:51
makocan 21UTC work?05:52
dholbachwfm05:52
jsgotangcook not bad i will still be able to do my morning run05:52
makodholbach: the whole point is to make it possible for different group05:52
dholbachyeah05:52
makodholbach: like west coast users05:52
dholbachright05:52
makoUSers05:52
makonot users05:52
MikeB-21 or 22 UTC works for me05:52
jsgotangcoholy cow that's 5am for me heh we'll see05:53
makoalright, i'll mail seveas05:53
makojsgotangco: yeah, you don't have to make it :)05:53
makothat's why we're a big group05:53
jsgotangcoyup05:53
makoso, this is the first meeting with the new council, right?05:54
jsgotangcoyup05:54
dholbachyeah :)05:54
makowell, then THANK YOU NEW COUNCIL05:54
MikeB-seems to be05:54
nealmcbThanks to you all for volunteering!!05:54
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orestesmasThank you all from Orestes - CatalanTeam05:54
rafael_carrerasthank you all05:54
carlesoriolMany thanks - catalan team05:54
arualavithank you all!05:54
papapep__People from CC, many, many thanks from Catalunya -CatalanTeam05:54
jsgotangcoour pleasure OLD COUNCIL05:54
jsgotangco:D05:54
alex_muntadathank you all and congrats to new members and teams!05:54
makoi think this is a quiet but a major major milestone for the council and for the community more broadly05:54
MikeB-thanks mako, and congrats to new Locos and members05:54
boredandbloggingthanks everyone05:55
makocanonical employees are now in a minority on our highest governing board05:55
jsgotangcothanks good one05:55
mako;)05:55
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MikeB-mako: lol05:55
makothanks everyone, see you all next time05:55
dholbach:-)05:55
dholbachthanks - see you05:55
jsgotangcoohhh mobile mockups05:56
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MikeB-later all05:56
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jonojsgotangco: where are the mockups?05:56
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makonealmcb: nice that you're a wikipedian also :)05:56
Burgundaviahmm, indeed05:56
jsgotangcojono: kwii sent them to the embedded list05:57
makoall my favorite projects :)05:57
jonolink?05:57
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makogood day/night/morning all!05:57
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nealmcbmako: thanks - fun05:57
nealmcbI wish we could track moin entries like wikipedia entries05:58
Burgundaviahttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mobile/2007-May/000018.html05:58
jsgotangcojono: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mobile/2007-May/000018.html05:58
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nealmcbgood incentive for contributors to count 'em up05:58
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Specdoes anyone have today's CC meeting logs?06:33
pochu!logs06:35
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs06:35
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amachuhi08:03
amachuthe CC meeting got over?08:03
amachuat 13.00 hrs?08:03
dholbachhello amachu08:04
amachudholbach: hi08:04
amachuamachu: was the cc meeting over?08:04
dholbachyes, it's over08:04
dholbachit was at May 15 2007, 13:00 UTC08:04
dholbachUTC08:04
amachuok..08:04
dholbachwhat timezone are you in?08:04
amachuIndia08:05
dholbachif you run    date -u   it will tell you what time it is in UTC08:05
amachudholbach: no problem.. any discussion on Ubuntu derivative08:05
dholbachhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-current.html08:07
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dholbach03:03 until 03:0708:07
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