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15 May 17:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 22:00: Forum Council | 20 May 19:00: Xubuntu Developers [12:53] <`23meg> @now [12:53] Current time in Etc/UTC: May 15 2007, 10:53:41 - Next meeting: Community Council in 2 hours 6 minutes === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === siretart [i=siretart@ubuntu/member/siretart] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === sfllaw [i=sfllaw@debian/developer/coleSLAW] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === [PUPPETS] Gonzo [n=gonzo@80.69.47.16] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === buxy [n=nnnnnnnn@arrakeen.ouaza.com] has joined 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22:00: Edubuntu | 18 May 02:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 19 May 06:00: Forum Council | 21 May 03:00: Xubuntu Developers [01:34] @schedule argentina === florencia [n=florenci@200-122-48-254.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:37] hiya bimberi [01:37] @schedule sydney [01:37] Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 15 May 23:00: Community Council | 16 May 01:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 22:00: Edubuntu | 18 May 02:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 19 May 06:00: Forum Council | 21 May 03:00: Xubuntu Developers [01:37] oh, it is the same [01:37] hi Hobbsee [01:37] yes, Canberra is in the same timezone [01:38] Hobbsee: welcome home btw :) [01:38] bimberi: thanks :) [01:39] @schedule Buenos_Aires [01:39] Schedule for America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires: 15 May 10:00: Community Council | 15 May 12:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 09:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 13:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 17:00: Forum Council | 20 May 14:00: Xubuntu Developers [01:39] florencia: ^^^^ [01:39] Hobbsee: sorry to hear about all the transportation you had to use and the time it took :( [01:39] gnomefreak: yeah :P [01:39] gnomefreak: was a bit nasty [01:39] it sounds it [01:40] Hello bimberry [01:40] hi florencia === nifan [n=nifan@84.91.63.234] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:41] b'dia === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-027-065.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:43] @schedule London [01:43] Schedule for Europe/London: 15 May 14:00: Community Council | 15 May 16:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 13:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 21:00: Forum Council | 20 May 18:00: Xubuntu Developers === jelkner [n=jelkner@ffzrouter.yorktown.arlington.k12.va.us] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === marianom [n=marianom@252-58-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === slackwarelife [n=slackwar@host197-128-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === florencia_ 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[02:43] @schedule berlin [02:43] Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 15 May 15:00: Community Council | 15 May 17:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 22:00: Forum Council | 20 May 19:00: Xubuntu Developers === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mako [n=mako@bork.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Sanne [n=Sanne@c-134-231-133.f.dsl.de.ignite.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:47] i need go to my lab now and will be probably 5-10 minutes to the meeting [02:47] apologies to everyone, see you soon === jmorelli [n=jmorelli@200.61.163.218] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:ubotu] : Current meeting: Community Council | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 15 May 15:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 16 May 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 17 May 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 20:00 UTC: Forum Council | 20 May 17:00 UTC: Xubuntu Developers === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:52] Hi there. I'm Arnaud Quette, from the UMC team (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMediaCenterTeam) === MikeB- [n=dbasinge@ubuntu/member/MikeB-] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:53] morning all [02:53] morning [02:54] (evening here rather) [02:54] hi MikeB- [02:54] afternoon [02:54] hi spam [02:54] hi Seeker` [02:54] hey Hobbsee how's the jetlag monster [02:54] jmorelli: how are you? nice to see you 'round [02:54] jsgotangco: i went to sleep at 6am today, and woke up at 6pm. it's sucking. === festival_gaim [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-185-166.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:55] Hobbsee: just keep pushing it forward so you'll go to sleep at noon tomorrow. and then you'll almost be adjusted. [02:55] hello everyone [02:55] yeah it sucks that the world is round [02:55] Hobbsee: ouch, the lag wasn't bad for me, but the airline lost my luggage for two days [02:55] Mithrandir: heh [02:55] MikeB-: fun. [02:56] Hobbsee: they're elkbuntu's hours methinks :) [02:56] bimberi: heh. true. but she doesnt have uni === papapep__ [n=papapep@233.Red-83-56-253.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:56] hey ubunteros [02:56] marianom, hi ! I can't miss this chat [02:57] hello [02:57] Greetings from Vermont, the Frozen North of the US near the Canadian line! [02:57] greetings from Antarctica. [02:57] uouuu Antarctica ! [02:58] Hobbsee, Antarctica, cool! [02:58] hello [02:58] Camp McMurdo? [02:59] feels like i'm in antarctica, anyway [02:59] highvoltage, Jonathan good to hear from you! === Lip1 [n=Lipe@151.193.220.29] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === RainCT [n=RainCT@77.209.10.153] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:00] hey flint, long time no see :) === Lip1 is now known as lip1 [03:01] Hail and well met good fellows === lip1 is now known as lipe_ === spg76 [n=sebastia@201.216.212.229] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === elmo [n=james@83-216-156-21.jamest747.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === CoMp4c7 [n=arnau@29.red-62-57-248.user.auna.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:01] spg76, good to see you here !! === dudanogueira [n=duda@unaffiliated/bitdoidao/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:02] spg76: morning [03:02] mako said he'd late a few minutes === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:02] hi all [03:02] hello [03:02] lo sabdfl [03:02] hi all === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:02] good morning [03:02] Good morning, or whatever part of the day it is for y'all. [03:03] ok, let's get started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda is our agenda for today [03:03] morning sabdfl [03:03] is srimadas here? [03:03] good morninf everyone [03:03] amachu seems to be his nick on freenode === `23meg [n=m@unaffiliated/23meg/x-000000001] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:04] beuno, hi hero !!! [03:04] yes that's amachu [03:04] jsgotangco: bless you === carlesoriol [n=carlesor@dync-30-238.ac.upc.es] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:04] ok, amachu seems to not be around... he asked for a clarification on "Ubuntu Derivative - reg. Recently we had the formation of Ubuntu Derivative Team. It appears that some gap has been formed in between [https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2007-April/001280.html] following this mail and its replies. Would like to get clarified on such issues." [03:04] I can just add a few points to that: === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.129.223] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === orestes [n=orestes@oersted.upc.es] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:05] I'm in touch with David Farning at the moment, but until now the issues he talked about are rather nebulous to me - I don't exactly know what problem there was with Canonical === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:06] we should invite amachu and dfarning to one of the next meetings and talk about this again === sergi [n=chatzill@87.219.198.210] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:06] hi all [03:06] my take on this one is that it falls pretty much under the trademark policy under derived works just like how other derivatives fall under [03:06] I've not heard anything from dfarning on the subject [03:06] also, I asked the sysadmins to create a ubuntu-derivative mailing list - I will announce it and I hope that will make us work closer together with the derivatives === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:07] we had some very good sessions with the guys from Guadalinex at UDS, so I'm very confident this will help improve things [03:07] ok. we have a very strong pro-derivative policy in general, and want them to feel welcome to use ubuntu as it suits them === dennda [n=dennda@ubuntu/member/dennda] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:07] next? [03:08] juliux proposed "CCAgenda freeze - The wikipage for the CommunityCouncilAgenda, should be frozen a few days befor the CC Meeting so everybody can check if the items are interesting to him or not." === rafael_carreras [n=rafael_c@dync-30-231.ac.upc.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:08] i'd rather not, as it would introduce greater delays i think [03:08] was the wiki page frozen at all? I noticed changes until this morning...but then it only took me an hour to read everything [03:08] that said, we don't want people adding items during the meeting, either :-) [03:08] hehe [03:09] :) [03:09] i put that up because there were some people adding himself for membership just a few minutes bevor the meeting [03:09] freezing it would help keep meetings shorter [03:09] Seems wise, considering the CC meets fairly regularly. On the other hand one can always freeze it an hour before rather than days. [03:09] i believe a placeholder notice would do for now [03:09] (Perhaps "hours" rather than an hour or days.) [03:09] i think the general agenda items should be froozen, so everybody knows about the itmes for the next meeting [03:10] kjcole, did you check the agenda every hour? [03:10] what about taking a different approach to discussion items vs memberships/loco's === Seveas [n=dennis@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lipe_ [n=Lipe@151.193.220.29] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [03:10] i see no problem with someone adding themselves for membership just before hand, as long as they have folks there who will speak for them to backup their wiki pages and lp track record [03:10] sabdfl, i am happy if the gernal items are frozen a few days bevor the meeting [03:11] sorry for being late, network problems [03:11] hi Seveas [03:11] for discussion items, it makes sense to freeze a little earlier (though i don't think more than 24 hours is needed) [03:11] juliux, no but it seemed like a compromise between not freezing, and freezing days ahead. And I would check a few hours ahead if that were the established policy. (Or live with the uncertainty.) [03:11] also, it should be good practice to notify anyone concerned that an item was added [03:11] especially in the case of a dispute [03:11] so we get the chance to hear from all sides === arualavi [n=Iva@dync-30-232.ac.upc.es] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:12] that's ideal [03:12] sabdfl, good idea [03:12] (was the first item on the agenda skipped?) [03:13] Seveas: amachu was not here [03:13] no, just rapidly dispensed with [03:13] ok [03:13] Encourage people who add agenda items to subscribe? (I get automatic notices when the CC agenda page changes...) [03:13] so, can we agree on 24 hours for discussion items, and just before for memberships/locos? [03:13] I'm happy with that [03:13] Maybe a note on the agenda page suggesting subscription? [03:13] likewise [03:13] sabdfl: sounds good [03:14] yes === orestes [n=orestes@oersted.upc.es] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Kopete] [03:14] sabdfl, sounds good [03:14] nice idea === VooDoo [n=Paul@cpc1-mapp2-0-0-cust232.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:14] afternoon [03:14] ok, i think that's sufficient consensus, seveas could you update the page accordingly? [03:15] will do [03:15] next item: Uzuul wants blessing for the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMediaCenterTeam === arualavi [n=Iva@dync-30-232.ac.upc.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:15] I've put the latest status & roadmap here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMediaCenterTeam/Status20070514 [03:16] we're on the road to success, federating *all* the players in the field (Debian, Ubuntu, Elisa, LIRC, ...) to work together... === pi_candeler [n=josep@89.129.41.218] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:17] Good norning [03:17] that's a healthy spread of team members === txwikinger2 [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:18] greetings everyone [03:18] greetings mako [03:18] jsgot: yeah ;-) [03:18] i hope you got my message 15 minutes before saying i'd be miss the beginning of hte meeting [03:18] morning mako [03:18] hi [03:18] how do you forsee this project going during gutsy development? === gord [n=gord@5ac32893.bb.sky.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:18] hi mako [03:19] apologies for the disruption, i'm reading scrollback [03:19] jsgotangco: well, we will have releasable things. Elisa 0.2 will be out for the Guadec, packages are underway... [03:19] sorry, but what does federating mean in this context? [03:20] the only point is about the artwork (missing gfx designers) and the achievement of our UI goals. I've no exact idea yet! [03:20] looks like you have lots of ideas and a lot of people in the team [03:20] how many people are working on getting the changes you propose into Ubuntu? [03:20] elmo: team members, working together on the same aims... [03:21] dholbach: some 10 peoples really active. but we are quickly growing... [03:21] Uzuul, i know a very good gfx designer. vdepizzol. he probably will be very interested in design it. [03:21] I'm asking because the goals you propose in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MediaCenter/SoftwareSpecs look quite some work [03:22] dholbach: we work a lot upstream, so hiting ubuntu by side effect... === ranf_ [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-101-007.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === orestes_ [n=orestes@dync-30-234.ac.upc.es] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:22] dholbach: Elisa team already address a lot ;-) Isn't it Kaleo [03:22] About the artwork, we have a graphist in the Elisa team === etank [n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:23] dudanogueira: thanks for this. I'll contact him... === mohnkern [n=mohnkern@c-69-140-177-65.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:23] Feature-wise, Elisa is meant to achieve many of the points listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MediaCenter/SoftwareSpecs soon [03:23] as i understand it, the initial step is just packaging Elisa, right? [03:24] that in itself would be a very good start [03:24] Uzuul, he is wright here: http://vdepizzol.wordpress.com/ [03:24] that's how i got it as well [03:24] package Elisa, and have it on Ubuntu as a good platform [03:24] that's fine by me! [03:24] sabdfl: right ! I'm working, as a DD, with Loic Minier, on this point. [03:24] super === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:25] once you have a core piece of software like that in place, you can build a custom derivative easily enough [03:25] sabdfl: but that's just a small beginning. The big things comes then ;-) [03:25] well, let's take one step at a time :-) === lavaramano [n=mauro@68-155-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:25] hi === duckman [n=duckman@68-155-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:26] there's huge interest in having free software in the entertainment hub and having this go along with Ubuntu will definitely create a following [03:26] sabdfl: right, but some things can be done in // without impacting the schedule (like the LIRC improvements) ;-) [03:26] we get a LOT of requests for media centre functionality, so it will be great to be able to point folks at Elisa [03:26] LIRC? [03:26] infrared [03:26] remote control things === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:26] ahh for all-in-one remotes [03:26] sabdfl: absolutely [03:26] (shouldn't lirc be replaced by proper kernel input drivers?) [03:26] I'm very happy you're keen on getting this done and are so enthusiastic about it; I'm with sabdfl here: I'd recommend splitting up the long list of goals in tiny tiny tasks, so you can easily track them and get people involved with them [03:26] sabdfl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoteControls [03:27] Treenaks, being worked on already [03:27] Daviey: \o/ [03:28] Daviey: can you contact me back for more info? I have a task underway upstream on that... [03:28] Uzuul, pm [03:28] dholbach: the tasks splitting is planned. === bkingx [n=bkingx@ubuntu/member/bkingx] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:29] Uzuul: what do you need from us right now? [03:29] sabdfl: an official blessing, and a mailing list. [03:30] +1 from me [03:30] +1 from me, definitely an area Ubuntu should support [03:31] there's some work to be done, but it seems there is more work being accomplished upstream, so I would give my +1 as well to have something for Ubuntu in the future [03:31] +1 [03:31] if you really have ~30 members, it seems that this would be overdue [03:31] +1 from me [03:32] elmo? [03:33] Uzuul: it'd be nice to hear back from you team every now and then to see how you're progressing (maybe on one of the other mailing lists) [03:33] +1 [03:33] Uzuul: i think you can proceed, elmo will likely chime in with additional comments and questions in due course [03:33] ok === [GuS] [n=gdnet@unaffiliated/gus/x-663402] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:33] congrats Uzuul! please keep us posted, and good luck building your team [03:33] Uzuul: good luck along with the team! [03:33] ok, loco's! [03:33] thank you guys :) [03:33] kjcole: around? [03:33] sabdfl: thanks fellows. I'll keep you informed (any prefered ml?) [03:33] \o/ === kjcole is here === Webspot [n=Webspot@90.200.240.120] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === rafael_carreras is here [03:34] cool :) [03:34] Uzuul: keep the UWN folks abreast of news that the whole community will be interested in, and perhaps report back here every month or so initially [03:34] dcteam! [03:34] Uzuul, congrats! [03:34] let's go === beuno takes nots for the UWN [03:34] *notes [03:35] Hi. The Washington, DC LoCo Team's been around for a while but we were under the impression that we'd been formalized. [03:35] anyone from DC team aside from kjcole [03:35] ahh [03:35] all: thanks. we'll do the necessary to succeed. see you soon. bye [03:35] jsgotangco, I am here. [03:35] Uzuul: get in touch with me for the UWN [03:36] jelkner's on, but teaching class, so attendance is spotty at best. === D`ArtaGnaN [n=wjohnsto@ffzrouter.yorktown.arlington.k12.va.us] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:36] hi all [03:36] hay jono [03:36] hi j. [03:36] i've been aware of this team for some time, also thought they were formalised [03:36] We've now got a forum, and are scheduling meetings. [03:36] yes same here === LoudMouthMan [n=nik@ubuntu/member/loudmouthman] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:36] and this is a fairly active team in the US, if not the first [03:37] (especially in the education front) [03:37] qq [03:37] how does he do that? [03:37] unicode [03:37] lol [03:37] ah [03:37] lol [03:37] sabdfl, I formed this group after Ubuntu Down Under. that was a while ago.... [03:37] lots of madness in there :) [03:37] Our web site is undergoing change now, as we work with high school students, and they get the opportunity to redesign it. [03:37] oh, hey flint ! [03:38] ok, kjcole do you want anything other than a quick ack? we know and love ya :-) [03:38] sabdfl: www.xs4all.nl/~johnpc/uniud/ [03:38] sabdfl, nice touch the unicode! hey ollie! [03:38] yes, i even got to talk to jeffrey elkner in person that they were forming something... [03:38] sabdfl, cute trick. I gotta learn that with the upside down text. [03:38] sure, i'd be in a bunch of touch with flint and kjcole about the team [03:38] the dc team looks promising [03:38] I guess we're just looking for the official blessing / rubber stamp. [03:38] I can vouch that the DC team does a LOT for the DC area... Great team! [03:38] membership is quite low though [03:38] if anything, i think we might have really pushed the team before there was a formal procedure [03:38] kjcole: any recent events or highlights you can tell us about? === superm1 [n=superm1@66-188-199-254.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:39] We're planning the Free/Open Source Software in Education conference (FOSSED) for August. That's the biggest thing on our plate. [03:40] we are setting up several community computing center in the dc area using edubuntu [03:40] where will that be held? [03:40] sabdfl, they have the yhslug meeting coming up Friday. [03:40] Once again, we'll be doing Software Freedom Day (year 3 for us) and the Takoma Park Folk Festival (year 2) in the fall. [03:40] kjcole: what plans do you have to grow the membership? [03:40] jono: our membership doubled in the last month [03:40] jelkner: right [03:40] Gallaudet University, my place of gainful employment. But we're aiming at K-12 primarily. [03:40] jono, they have a new forum on ubuntu forums, that should be a big boost. === lipe_ [n=Lipe@151.193.220.29] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:41] we really need to just be more aggressive in asking folks to formalize it [03:41] we've been a bit lax in that [03:41] jono, the goal is also aimed at the U.S. high school age 11-18 years old... [03:41] sabdfl, elmo, mako, I have to disappear, but Daviey asked me to flag wave for him. Consider this a flag wave :) [03:41] popey: sounds good, thanks [03:41] right [03:41] For a team that's based around an area not even considered a state, how big a membership should we have? We're trying to keep it to people who are genuinely interested enough to get signed up on Launchpad... === atoponce [n=aaron@oalug/member/atoponce] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === meatballhat [n=dbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-027-065.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === TrioTorus [n=TrioToru@213.219.138.26.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:42] surely you can get more people with enough exposure to local events? [03:43] jono: the DC area is a different beast, since it is such a commuter town. [03:44] i have a question about this... [03:44] we touch a lot of people [03:44] team looks good to me [03:44] The point of the DC LoCo is that it should be "grandfathered" in because it lead the whole LoCo concept. Is this a numbers game, or is having representation in the US Capitol just a good idea? [03:44] most of them will not become "members" [03:44] but I would like them to concentrate on growing membership [03:44] we think of members as activists [03:44] Well, there are people who are interested as end-users... And, we're starting to get local "competition" (for lack of a friendlier word). [03:44] we will work for more members [03:45] i don't think there's a "necessary threshold" of numbers === mako nods to sabdfl [03:45] and the DC team has pioneered a number of great concepts in the use of free software in education [03:45] it still does for sure [03:45] the only reason that the DC loco isn't "official" is that they predate the official concept [03:45] so i'm +1 on formalising them as an Ubuntu LoCo team [03:45] I'm personally quite happy with what the DC team did until now [03:45] indeed, membership is not an identification of a good team, it just helps with sustainability, and it is clear the DC team is doing good work [03:45] (Within a short subway ride we have the DCLUG, NOVALUG, YHSLUG, UMDLUG, DC Loco, NE US Regional Loco, MD Loco... === Zelut [n=christer@ubuntu/member/zelut] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:45] The DC LoCo is also affiliated with no less than three LUGs in the DC area, in DC, Maryland and Virginia. [03:46] (and thought it was formalised already) [03:46] We were just first among LoCo's.) === kestrel [n=zen_love@wt1.core.wireless.fsr.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:46] i thin it should be *every* teams goal to grow membership in that one of the goals to spread the word [03:46] that said, while the numbers of participants can be a very good sign of the activity within a loco, it shouldn't be a litmus test [03:46] mako: exactly [03:46] mako, we spread the code, and all else comes to pass. [03:46] +1 from me: uo o [03:46] jono: i mean, 1 person is not much of a team :) [03:46] beuno: ok, I'll update you asap for the first milestones. [03:47] :^) [03:47] +1 as well o [03:47] mako: heh [03:47] +1 from me [03:47] +1 from me [03:47] this upside text is making me naseous [03:47] mako: you should have seen a recent approval application I got ;) [03:47] I gotta learn how to do the upside down thing... Thanks to all! [03:48] "No (Wo)Man Is A LoCo" [03:48] jelkner: whatever happened to colin applegate [03:48] he is back [03:48] was away at college [03:48] now back for the summer [03:48] good to hear [03:48] time flies [03:48] Next: beuno and the Argentina team [03:48] althought they might be loco [03:48] Thank you all. Does one of you update the LoCo page or shall we move ourselves? [03:48] Colin is asleep as one could expect from most teenagers... [03:49] congrats kjcole and flint!!! uo o :) [03:49] thanks Seveas [03:49] a particiuarly appropriate comment for the argentina team? [03:49] Good Evening sirs. It's getting awfully late here and I need to go home. But before I leave, I would like to endorse Mr. Dax Umaming. My name is Jojo Pascua and I attended mr. Umaming's Ubuntu Training held at Lourdes College in Daet, Camarines Norte, Philippines last April 11. I learned a lot from him and he accomplished a lot in just one day. His training was very precise and will surely help out the school. I'm now using Kubuntu. By the [03:49] way,he managed to convert the whole school to use Ubuntu. And because of him, single-handedly, 800 Kinder, Elementary, high School, and College students will be using Xubuntu 7 this coming school year in June. Also, he'll be back by the 3rd or 4th week of June for another trainig, but this time it's for the local gov't of Daet, with gov't agencies joining him. I hope you consider him. I'm not a member of Ubuntu rarely in IRC, so my apologies if [03:49] I disturbed anyone. thank you and Goodnigth! [03:49] kjcole, why are you wearing a fedora on the picture on your wikisite? [03:49] mornin' sabdfl [03:49] ummm jojopas bless you [03:49] sorry [03:49] Because Ubuntu doesn't have as nice a looking hat. ;-) [03:49] I'm Martin Albisetti and I'm representing the Argentina LoCo today. The team has been active for over eight months, and in that time we've grown up to over 100 members in Launchpad alone, participated in a few Instalfests and promoted Ubuntu all over the Country. Some of us have even traveled over 400km to other locations and setup booths to talk to people in conferences (see some great pictures linked in the Wiki). We also provide *a lot* of [03:49] support to users in the forums and Mailing List. Links: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArgentinaTeamApprovalApplication and https://launchpad.net/~uluga/ [03:50] juliux, I agree with you on this point. But I think the Red Hat is worn in pity. [03:50] :^0 [03:50] thanks jojopas === RainCT_2 [i=d5b0a1c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-bc78723ebb1303ec] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:51] have we not got to the catalan team yet? [03:51] (I added that to the wikipage of Dax Umaming) [03:51] Nice to meet you, Council [03:51] juliux, kjcole: fedoras are nice hats [03:51] jono: nope [03:51] mako: right [03:51] ok, Catalan team? [03:52] her we are [03:52] fire away [03:52] The Ubuntu Catalan LoCo Team is a very active, fast growing group of people that gathers the Catalan-speaking users community of Ubuntu in all its varieties. The scope of the Catalan LoCo Team is mainly the Catalan Countries, that is, the territories where Catalan is traditionally spoken, where members and volunteers are scattered practically all over their geography. Its aim is to support and promote Ubuntu amongst the Catalan [03:52] speaking community as it is the most important resource of information about Ubuntu in this language. We are a very heterogeneus and varied group of people focused on spreading the free software philosophy, specially Ubuntu, and have several projects in mind that will be carried out by our different workgroups in the near future. [03:52] can I just say that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/ApprovalApplication is the finest example of an approval application seen yet in the project [03:52] well done [03:52] :-) [03:52] thanks [03:52] :) [03:53] :) [03:53] :) [03:53] wow! [03:53] thanks [03:53] :) [03:53] :) [03:53] jono, whoops, thought i didn't see rafael [03:53] ok wait... [03:53] i'm getting really confused [03:55] let's stay at the catalan team now [03:55] mako: happens to me quite often too [03:55] good job! [03:55] pqs su [03:55] i just got done reading through the stuff on the argentine team [03:56] mako: Catalan team is up first, we got confused [03:56] alright [03:56] the team seems to be up and running quite well - lots of people on the mailing list and nice wiki pages as well [03:56] ok catalan [03:56] dholbach: the catalan team? [03:56] yes [03:56] I think the team seems to be doing excellent work [03:56] i am not to familiar with catalan or its history, but from what i understand this is a team composed of people using catalan the language so its possible to have members in spain, france and italy? [03:56] alright, we're doing the catalan team, in case anyone else is confused [03:57] this is pretty fantastic - i love the fact that there is participation from cultural, artistic, development, linguisitic and educational sources [03:57] jsgotangco: that's right [03:57] this is very intereting [03:57] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/En says "Define activities and objectives." on your TODO list - rafael_carreras: do you have any plans for the next weeks and months? [03:57] oh [03:58] next Sunday we wil have an install--party [03:58] so this is about the catalan language? [03:58] dholbach: this is the roadmap, in english https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/ApprovalApplication#head-894924807cb56c0fdfc7c58a49b8de0cf68b5c73 [03:58] jono: agreed completely [03:58] it's very exciting to see this level of activity in the region, two and 1/2 years after our Mataro distro summit :-) [03:58] this is a fantastic application [03:58] jono: what do you mean exactly? [03:59] +1 from me, and congratulations to the team leaders on doing such a fantastic job of building a diverse community [03:59] "buntu Catalan User community gathers Catalan-speaking users of Ubuntu in all its varieties. The scope of the Catalan LoCo Team is mainly [WWW] the Catalan Countries, that is, the territories where Catalan is traditionally spoken, where members and volunteers are spread practically all over their geography." [03:59] alex_muntada: thanks - it looks great [03:59] I am keen to see loco teams based mainly on a country or state, and then those teams to come together to form language coalitions [03:59] i have been considering moving to barcelona for a bit, this is increasingly my desire to do so :) [03:59] is this team for a specific country? === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:00] jono, a specific region [04:00]