[01:59] <Daviey> !schedule london
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about schedule london - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <popey> @schedule london
[09:32] <ubotu> Schedule for Europe/London: 15 May 14:00: Community Council | 15 May 16:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 13:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 21:00: Forum Council | 20 May 18:00: Xubuntu Developers
[12:51] <boredandblogging> @schedule atlanta
[12:52] <Treenaks> boredandblogging: try a larget city :)
[12:52] <Treenaks> larger
[12:52] <boredandblogging> @schedule eastern
[12:52] <ubotu> Schedule for Canada/Eastern: 15 May 09:00: Community Council | 15 May 11:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 08:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 12:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 16:00: Forum Council | 20 May 13:00: Xubuntu Developers
[12:53] <boredandblogging> there we go
[12:53] <Treenaks> @schedule Amsterdam
[12:53] <ubotu> Schedule for Europe/Amsterdam: 15 May 15:00: Community Council | 15 May 17:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 22:00: Forum Council | 20 May 19:00: Xubuntu Developers
[12:53] <`23meg> @now
[12:53] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: May 15 2007, 10:53:41 - Next meeting: Community Council in 2 hours 6 minutes
[01:33] <bimberi> @schedule canberra
[01:33] <ubotu> Schedule for Australia/Canberra: 15 May 23:00: Community Council | 16 May 01:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 22:00: Edubuntu | 18 May 02:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 19 May 06:00: Forum Council | 21 May 03:00: Xubuntu Developers
[01:34] <florencia_> @schedule argentina
[01:37] <Hobbsee> hiya bimberi
[01:37] <Hobbsee> @schedule sydney
[01:37] <ubotu> Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 15 May 23:00: Community Council | 16 May 01:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 22:00: Edubuntu | 18 May 02:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 19 May 06:00: Forum Council | 21 May 03:00: Xubuntu Developers
[01:37] <Hobbsee> oh, it is the same
[01:37] <bimberi> hi Hobbsee
[01:37] <bimberi> yes, Canberra is in the same timezone
[01:38] <bimberi> Hobbsee: welcome home btw :)
[01:38] <Hobbsee> bimberi: thanks :)
[01:39] <bimberi> @schedule Buenos_Aires
[01:39] <ubotu> Schedule for America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires: 15 May 10:00: Community Council | 15 May 12:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 09:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 13:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 17:00: Forum Council | 20 May 14:00: Xubuntu Developers
[01:39] <bimberi> florencia: ^^^^
[01:39] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: sorry to hear about all the transportation you had to use and the time it took :(
[01:39] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: yeah :P
[01:39] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: was a bit nasty
[01:39] <gnomefreak> it sounds it
[01:40] <florencia> Hello bimberry
[01:40] <bimberi> hi florencia
[01:41] <nifan> b'dia
[01:43] <Seeker`> @schedule London
[01:43] <ubotu> Schedule for Europe/London: 15 May 14:00: Community Council | 15 May 16:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 13:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 21:00: Forum Council | 20 May 18:00: Xubuntu Developers
[02:42] <flint> hey kevin!
[02:43] <dholbach> @schedule berlin
[02:43] <ubotu> Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 15 May 15:00: Community Council | 15 May 17:00: Kernel Team | 16 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 17 May 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 18 May 22:00: Forum Council | 20 May 19:00: Xubuntu Developers
[02:47] <mako> i need go to my lab now and will be probably 5-10 minutes to the meeting
[02:47] <mako> apologies to everyone, see you soon
[02:52] <Uzuul> Hi there. I'm Arnaud Quette, from the UMC team (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMediaCenterTeam)
[02:53] <MikeB-> morning all
[02:53] <jsgotangco> morning
[02:54] <jsgotangco> (evening here rather)
[02:54] <Hobbsee> hi MikeB-
[02:54] <Seeker`> afternoon
[02:54] <Hobbsee> hi spam
[02:54] <Hobbsee> hi Seeker`
[02:54] <jsgotangco> hey Hobbsee how's the jetlag monster
[02:54] <marianom> jmorelli: how are you? nice to see you 'round
[02:54] <Hobbsee> jsgotangco: i went to sleep at 6am today, and woke up at 6pm.  it's sucking.
[02:55] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: just keep pushing it forward so you'll go to sleep at noon tomorrow. and then you'll almost be adjusted.
[02:55] <Florencia> hello everyone
[02:55] <jsgotangco> yeah it sucks that the world is round
[02:55] <MikeB-> Hobbsee: ouch, the lag wasn't bad for me, but the airline lost my luggage for two days
[02:55] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: heh
[02:55] <Hobbsee> MikeB-: fun.
[02:56] <bimberi> Hobbsee: they're elkbuntu's hours methinks :)
[02:56] <Hobbsee> bimberi: heh.  true.  but she doesnt have uni
[02:56] <highvoltage> hey ubunteros
[02:56] <jmorelli> marianom, hi ! I can't miss this chat
[02:57] <dholbach> hello
[02:57] <flint> Greetings from Vermont, the Frozen North of the US near the Canadian line!
[02:57] <Hobbsee> greetings from Antarctica.
[02:57] <jmorelli> uouuu Antarctica !
[02:58] <flint> Hobbsee, Antarctica, cool!
[02:58] <slackwarelife> hello
[02:58] <jsgotangco> Camp McMurdo?
[02:59] <Hobbsee> feels like i'm in antarctica, anyway
[02:59] <flint> highvoltage, Jonathan good to hear from you!
[03:00] <highvoltage> hey flint, long time no see :)
[03:01] <kjcole> Hail and well met good fellows
[03:01] <jmorelli> spg76, good to see you here !!
[03:02] <marianom> spg76: morning
[03:02] <dholbach> mako said he'd late a few minutes
[03:02] <sabdfl> hi all
[03:02] <jsgotangco> hello
[03:02] <Seeker`> lo sabdfl
[03:02] <dudanogueira> hi all
[03:02] <spg76> good morning
[03:02] <kjcole> Good morning, or whatever part of the day it is for y'all.
[03:03] <dholbach> ok, let's get started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda is our agenda for today
[03:03] <MikeB-> morning sabdfl
[03:03] <dholbach> is srimadas here?
[03:03] <lipe_> good morninf everyone
[03:03] <dholbach> amachu seems to be his nick on freenode
[03:04] <jmorelli> beuno, hi hero !!!
[03:04] <jsgotangco> yes that's amachu
[03:04] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: bless you
[03:04] <dholbach> ok, amachu seems to not be around... he asked for a clarification on "Ubuntu Derivative - reg. Recently we had the formation of Ubuntu Derivative Team. It appears that some gap has been formed in between [https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2007-April/001280.html]  following this mail and its replies. Would like to get clarified on such issues."
[03:04] <dholbach> I can just add a few points to that:
[03:05] <dholbach> I'm in touch with David Farning at the moment, but until now the issues he talked about are rather nebulous to me - I don't exactly know what problem there was with Canonical
[03:06] <dholbach> we should invite amachu and dfarning to one of the next meetings and talk about this again
[03:06] <juliux> hi all
[03:06] <jsgotangco> my take on this one is that it falls pretty much under the trademark policy under derived works just like how other derivatives fall under
[03:06] <sabdfl> I've not heard anything from dfarning on the subject
[03:06] <dholbach> also, I asked the sysadmins to create a ubuntu-derivative mailing list - I will announce it and I hope that will make us work closer together with the derivatives
[03:07] <dholbach> we had some very good sessions with the guys from Guadalinex at UDS, so I'm very confident this will help improve things
[03:07] <sabdfl> ok. we have a very strong pro-derivative policy in general, and want them to feel welcome to use ubuntu as it suits them
[03:07] <sabdfl> next?
[03:08] <dholbach> juliux proposed "CCAgenda freeze - The wikipage for the CommunityCouncilAgenda, should be frozen a few days befor the CC Meeting so everybody can check if the items are interesting to him or not."
[03:08] <sabdfl> i'd rather not, as it would introduce greater delays i think
[03:08] <jsgotangco> was the wiki page frozen at all? I noticed changes until this morning...but then it only took me an hour to read everything
[03:08] <sabdfl> that said, we don't want people adding items during the meeting, either :-)
[03:08] <dholbach> hehe
[03:09] <MikeB-> :)
[03:09] <juliux> i put that up because there were some people adding himself for membership just a few minutes bevor the meeting
[03:09] <gnomefreak> freezing it would help keep meetings shorter
[03:09] <kjcole> Seems wise, considering the CC meets fairly regularly.  On the other hand one can always freeze it an hour before rather than days.
[03:09] <jsgotangco> i believe a placeholder notice would do for now
[03:09] <kjcole> (Perhaps "hours" rather than an hour or days.)
[03:09] <juliux> i think the general agenda items should be froozen, so everybody knows about the itmes for the next meeting
[03:10] <juliux> kjcole, did you check the agenda every hour?
[03:10] <sabdfl> what about taking a different approach to discussion items vs memberships/loco's
[03:10] <sabdfl> i see no problem with someone adding themselves for membership just before hand, as long as they have folks there who will speak for them to backup their wiki pages and lp track record
[03:10] <juliux> sabdfl, i am happy if the gernal items are frozen a few days bevor the meeting
[03:11] <Seveas> sorry for being late, network problems
[03:11] <juliux> hi Seveas
[03:11] <sabdfl> for discussion items, it makes sense to freeze a little earlier (though i don't think more than 24 hours is needed)
[03:11] <kjcole> juliux, no but it seemed like a compromise between not freezing, and freezing days ahead.  And I would check a few hours ahead if that were the established policy.  (Or live with the uncertainty.)
[03:11] <sabdfl> also, it should be good practice to notify anyone concerned that an item was added
[03:11] <sabdfl> especially in the case of a dispute
[03:11] <sabdfl> so we get the chance to hear from all sides
[03:12] <jsgotangco> that's ideal
[03:12] <Seveas> sabdfl, good idea
[03:12] <Seveas> (was the first item on the agenda skipped?)
[03:13] <dholbach> Seveas: amachu was not here
[03:13] <sabdfl> no, just rapidly dispensed with
[03:13] <Seveas> ok
[03:13] <kjcole> Encourage people who add agenda items to subscribe?  (I get automatic notices when the CC agenda page changes...)
[03:13] <sabdfl> so, can we agree on 24 hours for discussion items, and just before for memberships/locos?
[03:13] <dholbach> I'm happy with that
[03:13] <kjcole> Maybe a note on the agenda page suggesting subscription?
[03:13] <Seveas> likewise
[03:13] <MikeB-> sabdfl: sounds good
[03:14] <jsgotangco> yes
[03:14] <juliux> sabdfl, sounds good
[03:14] <dennda> nice idea
[03:14] <VooDoo> afternoon
[03:14] <sabdfl> ok, i think that's sufficient consensus, seveas could you update the page accordingly?
[03:15] <Seveas> will do
[03:15] <dholbach> next item: Uzuul wants blessing for the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMediaCenterTeam
[03:15] <Uzuul> I've put the latest status & roadmap here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMediaCenterTeam/Status20070514
[03:16] <Uzuul> we're on the road to success, federating *all* the players in the field (Debian, Ubuntu, Elisa, LIRC, ...) to work together...
[03:17] <alins> Good norning
[03:17] <jsgotangco> that's a healthy spread of team members
[03:18] <mako> greetings everyone
[03:18] <Seveas> greetings mako
[03:18] <Uzuul> jsgot: yeah ;-)
[03:18] <mako> i hope you got my message 15 minutes before saying i'd be miss the beginning of hte meeting
[03:18] <MikeB-> morning mako
[03:18] <dennda> hi
[03:18] <jsgotangco> how do you forsee this project going during gutsy development?
[03:18] <juliux> hi mako
[03:19] <mako> apologies for the disruption, i'm reading scrollback
[03:19] <Uzuul> jsgotangco: well, we will have releasable things. Elisa 0.2 will be out for the Guadec, packages are underway...
[03:19] <elmo> sorry, but what does federating mean in this context?
[03:20] <Uzuul> the only point is about the artwork (missing gfx designers) and the achievement of our UI goals. I've no exact idea yet!
[03:20] <dholbach> looks like you have lots of ideas and a lot of people in the team
[03:20] <dholbach> how many people are working on getting the changes you propose into Ubuntu?
[03:20] <Uzuul> elmo: team members, working together on the same aims...
[03:21] <Uzuul> dholbach: some 10 peoples really active. but we are quickly growing...
[03:21] <dudanogueira> Uzuul, i know a very good gfx designer. vdepizzol. he probably will be very interested in design it.
[03:21] <dholbach> I'm asking because the goals you propose in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MediaCenter/SoftwareSpecs look quite some work
[03:22] <Uzuul> dholbach: we work a lot upstream, so hiting ubuntu by side effect...
[03:22] <Uzuul> dholbach: Elisa team already address a lot ;-) Isn't it Kaleo
[03:22] <Kaleo> About the artwork, we have a graphist in the Elisa team
[03:23] <Uzuul> dudanogueira: thanks for this. I'll contact him...
[03:23] <Kaleo> Feature-wise, Elisa is meant to achieve many of the points listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MediaCenter/SoftwareSpecs soon
[03:23] <sabdfl> as i understand it, the initial step is just packaging Elisa, right?
[03:24] <sabdfl> that in itself would be a very good start
[03:24] <dudanogueira> Uzuul, he is wright here: http://vdepizzol.wordpress.com/
[03:24] <jsgotangco> that's how i got it as well
[03:24] <jsgotangco> package Elisa, and have it on Ubuntu as a good platform
[03:24] <sabdfl> that's fine by me!
[03:24] <Uzuul> sabdfl: right ! I'm working, as a DD, with Loic Minier, on this point.
[03:24] <sabdfl> super
[03:25] <sabdfl> once you have a core piece of software like that in place, you can build a custom derivative easily enough
[03:25] <Uzuul> sabdfl: but that's just a small beginning. The big things comes then ;-)
[03:25] <sabdfl> well, let's take one step at a time :-)
[03:25] <lavaramano> hi
[03:26] <jsgotangco> there's huge interest in having free software in the entertainment hub and having this go along with Ubuntu will definitely create a following
[03:26] <Uzuul> sabdfl: right, but some things can be done in // without impacting the schedule (like the LIRC improvements) ;-)
[03:26] <sabdfl> we get a LOT of requests for media centre functionality, so it will be great to be able to point folks at Elisa
[03:26] <sabdfl> LIRC?
[03:26] <Seveas> infrared
[03:26] <Seveas> remote control things
[03:26] <jsgotangco> ahh for all-in-one remotes
[03:26] <mako> sabdfl: absolutely
[03:26] <Treenaks> (shouldn't lirc be replaced by proper kernel input drivers?)
[03:26] <dholbach> I'm very happy you're keen on getting this done and are so enthusiastic about it; I'm with sabdfl here: I'd recommend splitting up the long list of goals in tiny tiny tasks, so you can easily track them and get people involved with them
[03:26] <Uzuul> sabdfl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoteControls
[03:27] <Daviey> Treenaks, being worked on already
[03:27] <Treenaks> Daviey: \o/
[03:28] <Uzuul> Daviey: can you contact me back for more info? I have a task underway upstream on that...
[03:28] <Daviey> Uzuul, pm
[03:28] <Uzuul> dholbach: the tasks splitting is planned.
[03:29] <sabdfl> Uzuul: what do you need from us right now?
[03:29] <Uzuul> sabdfl: an official blessing, and a mailing list.
[03:30] <sabdfl> +1 from me
[03:30] <MikeB-> +1 from me, definitely an area Ubuntu should support
[03:31] <jsgotangco> there's some work to be done, but it seems there is more work being accomplished upstream, so I would give my +1 as well to have something for Ubuntu in the future
[03:31] <dholbach> +1
[03:31] <mako> if you really have ~30 members, it seems that this would be overdue
[03:31] <mako> +1 from me
[03:32] <sabdfl> elmo?
[03:33] <dholbach> Uzuul: it'd be nice to hear back from you team every now and then to see how you're progressing (maybe on one of the other mailing lists)
[03:33] <elmo> +1
[03:33] <sabdfl> Uzuul: i think you can proceed, elmo will likely chime in with additional comments and questions in due course
[03:33] <sabdfl> ok
[03:33] <sabdfl> congrats Uzuul! please keep us posted, and good luck building your team
[03:33] <jsgotangco> Uzuul: good luck along with the team!
[03:33] <sabdfl> ok, loco's!
[03:33] <Kaleo> thank you guys :)
[03:33] <sabdfl> kjcole: around?
[03:33] <Uzuul> sabdfl: thanks fellows. I'll keep you informed (any prefered ml?)
[03:33] <philn> \o/
[03:34] <hku> cool :)
[03:34] <sabdfl> Uzuul: keep the UWN folks abreast of news that the whole community will be interested in, and perhaps report back here every month or so initially
[03:34] <sabdfl> dcteam!
[03:34] <dudanogueira> Uzuul, congrats!
[03:34] <sabdfl> let's go
[03:34] <beuno> *notes
[03:35] <kjcole> Hi. The Washington, DC LoCo Team's been around for a while but we were under the impression that we'd been formalized.
[03:35] <jsgotangco> anyone from DC team aside from kjcole
[03:35] <jsgotangco> ahh
[03:35] <Uzuul> all: thanks. we'll do the necessary to succeed. see you soon. bye
[03:35] <flint> jsgotangco, I am here.
[03:35] <beuno> Uzuul: get in touch with me for the UWN
[03:36] <kjcole> jelkner's on, but teaching class, so attendance is spotty at best.
[03:36] <jono> hi all
[03:36] <VooDoo> hay jono
[03:36] <Seveas> hi j.
[03:36] <sabdfl> i've been aware of this team for some time, also thought they were formalised
[03:36] <kjcole> We've now got a forum, and are scheduling meetings.
[03:36] <jsgotangco> yes same here
[03:36] <jsgotangco> and this is a fairly active team in the US, if not the first
[03:37] <jsgotangco> (especially in the education front)
[03:37] <sabdfl> qq
[03:37] <sabdfl> how does he do that?
[03:37] <Seveas> unicode
[03:37] <jsgotangco> lol
[03:37] <sabdfl> ah
[03:37] <Florencia> lol
[03:37] <flint> sabdfl, I formed this group after Ubuntu Down Under. that was a while ago....
[03:37] <Seveas> lots of madness in there :)
[03:37] <kjcole> Our web site is undergoing change now, as we work with high school students, and they get the opportunity to redesign it.
[03:37] <ogra> oh, hey flint !
[03:38] <sabdfl> ok, kjcole do you want anything other than a quick ack? we know and love ya :-)
[03:38] <Treenaks> sabdfl: www.xs4all.nl/~johnpc/uniud/
[03:38] <flint> sabdfl, nice touch the unicode! hey ollie!
[03:38] <jsgotangco> yes, i even got to talk to jeffrey elkner in person that they were forming something...
[03:38] <kjcole> sabdfl, cute trick. I gotta learn that with the upside down text.
[03:38] <mako> sure, i'd be in a bunch of touch with flint and kjcole about the team
[03:38] <jono> the dc team looks promising
[03:38] <kjcole> I guess we're just looking for the official blessing / rubber stamp.
[03:38] <Vorian> I can vouch that the DC team does a LOT for the DC area...  Great team!
[03:38] <jono> membership is quite low though
[03:38] <mako> if anything, i think we might have really pushed the team before there was a formal procedure
[03:38] <sabdfl> kjcole: any recent events or highlights you can tell us about?
[03:39] <kjcole> We're planning the Free/Open Source Software in Education conference (FOSSED) for August.  That's the biggest thing on our plate.
[03:40] <jelkner> we are setting up several community computing center in the dc area using edubuntu
[03:40] <sabdfl> where will that be held?
[03:40] <flint> sabdfl, they have the yhslug meeting coming up Friday.
[03:40] <kjcole> Once again, we'll be doing Software Freedom Day (year 3 for us) and the Takoma Park Folk Festival (year 2) in the fall.
[03:40] <jono> kjcole: what plans do you have to grow the membership?
[03:40] <jelkner> jono: our membership doubled in the last month
[03:40] <jono> jelkner: right
[03:40] <kjcole> Gallaudet University, my place of gainful employment.  But we're aiming at K-12 primarily.
[03:40] <Vorian> jono, they have a new forum on ubuntu forums, that should be a big boost.
[03:41] <jelkner> we really need to just be more aggressive in asking folks to formalize it
[03:41] <jelkner> we've been a bit lax in that
[03:41] <flint> jono, the goal is also aimed at the U.S. high school age 11-18 years old...
[03:41] <popey> sabdfl, elmo, mako, I have to disappear, but Daviey asked me to flag wave for him. Consider this a flag wave :)
[03:41] <mako> popey: sounds good, thanks
[03:41] <jono> right
[03:41] <kjcole> For a team that's based around an area not even considered a state, how big a membership should we have?  We're trying to keep it to people who are genuinely interested enough to get signed up on Launchpad...
[03:42] <jsgotangco> surely you can get more people with enough exposure to local events?
[03:43] <MikeB-> jono: the DC area is a different beast, since it is such a commuter town.
[03:44] <jelkner> i have a question about this...
[03:44] <jelkner> we touch a lot of people
[03:44] <jono> team looks good to me
[03:44] <flint> The point of the DC LoCo is that it should be "grandfathered" in because it lead the whole LoCo concept.  Is this a numbers game, or is having representation in the US Capitol just a good idea?
[03:44] <jelkner> most of them will not become "members"
[03:44] <jono> but I would like them to concentrate on growing membership
[03:44] <jelkner> we think of members as activists
[03:44] <kjcole> Well, there are people who are interested as end-users...   And, we're starting to get local "competition" (for lack of a friendlier word).
[03:44] <jelkner> we will work for more members
[03:45] <sabdfl> i don't think there's a "necessary threshold" of numbers
[03:45] <sabdfl> and the DC team has pioneered a number of great concepts in the use of free software in education
[03:45] <jsgotangco> it still does for sure
[03:45] <mako> the only reason that the DC loco isn't "official" is that they predate the official concept
[03:45] <sabdfl> so i'm +1 on formalising them as an Ubuntu LoCo team
[03:45] <dholbach> I'm personally quite happy with what the DC team did until now
[03:45] <jono> indeed, membership is not an identification of a good team, it just helps with sustainability, and it is clear the DC team is doing good work
[03:45] <kjcole> (Within a short subway ride we have the DCLUG, NOVALUG, YHSLUG, UMDLUG, DC Loco, NE US Regional Loco, MD Loco...
[03:45] <flint> The DC LoCo is also affiliated with no less than three LUGs in the DC area, in DC, Maryland and Virginia.
[03:46] <dholbach> (and thought it was formalised already)
[03:46] <kjcole> We were just first among LoCo's.)
[03:46] <mako> i thin it should be *every* teams goal to grow membership in that one of the goals to spread the word
[03:46] <mako> that said, while the numbers of participants can be a very good sign of the activity within a loco, it shouldn't be a litmus test
[03:46] <jono> mako: exactly
[03:46] <flint> mako, we spread the code, and all else comes to pass.
[03:46] <dholbach> +1 from me: uo o
[03:46] <mako> jono: i mean, 1 person is not  much of a team :)
[03:46] <Uzuul> beuno: ok, I'll update you asap for the first milestones.
[03:47] <flint> :^)
[03:47] <jsgotangco> +1 as well o
[03:47] <jono> mako: heh
[03:47] <mako> +1 from me
[03:47] <MikeB-> +1 from me
[03:47] <mako> this upside text is making me naseous
[03:47] <jono> mako: you should have seen a recent approval application I got ;)
[03:47] <flint> I gotta learn how to do the upside down thing...  Thanks to all!
[03:48] <mako> "No (Wo)Man Is A LoCo"
[03:48] <jsgotangco> jelkner: whatever happened to colin applegate
[03:48] <jelkner> he is back
[03:48] <jelkner> was away at college
[03:48] <jelkner> now back for the summer
[03:48] <jsgotangco> good to hear
[03:48] <jsgotangco> time flies
[03:48] <Seveas> Next: beuno and the Argentina team
[03:48] <mako> althought they might be loco
[03:48] <kjcole> Thank you all.  Does one of you update the LoCo page or shall we move ourselves?
[03:48] <flint> Colin is asleep as one could expect from most teenagers...
[03:49] <Vorian> congrats kjcole and flint!!!  uo o :)
[03:49] <beuno> thanks Seveas
[03:49] <mako> a particiuarly appropriate comment for the argentina team?
[03:49] <jojopas> Good Evening sirs. It's getting awfully late here and I need to go home. But before I leave, I would like to endorse Mr. Dax Umaming. My name is Jojo Pascua and I attended mr. Umaming's Ubuntu Training held at Lourdes College in Daet, Camarines Norte, Philippines last April 11. I learned a lot from him and he accomplished a lot in just one day. His training was very precise and will surely help out the school. I'm now using Kubuntu. By the
[03:49] <jojopas> way,he managed to convert the whole school to use Ubuntu. And because of him, single-handedly, 800 Kinder, Elementary, high School, and College students will be using Xubuntu 7 this coming school year in June. Also, he'll be back by the 3rd or 4th week of June for another trainig, but this time it's for the local gov't of Daet, with gov't agencies joining him. I hope you consider him. I'm not a member of Ubuntu rarely in IRC, so my apologies if
[03:49] <jojopas> I disturbed anyone. thank you and Goodnigth!
[03:49] <juliux> kjcole, why are you wearing a fedora on the picture on your wikisite?
[03:49] <beuno> mornin' sabdfl
[03:49] <jsgotangco> ummm jojopas bless you
[03:49] <jojopas> sorry
[03:49] <kjcole> Because Ubuntu doesn't have as nice a looking hat. ;-)
[03:49] <beuno> I'm Martin Albisetti and I'm representing the Argentina LoCo today. The team has been active for over eight months, and in that time we've grown up to over 100 members in Launchpad alone, participated in a few Instalfests and promoted Ubuntu all over the Country. Some of us have even traveled over 400km to other locations and setup booths to talk to people in conferences (see some great pictures linked in the Wiki). We also provide *a lot* of
[03:49] <beuno> support to users in the forums and Mailing List. Links: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArgentinaTeamApprovalApplication and https://launchpad.net/~uluga/
[03:50] <flint> juliux, I agree with you on this point.  But I think the Red Hat is worn in pity.
[03:50] <flint> :^0
[03:50] <sabdfl> thanks jojopas
[03:51] <jono> have we not got to the catalan team yet?
[03:51] <Seveas> (I added that to the wikipage of Dax Umaming)
[03:51] <rafael_carreras> Nice to meet you, Council
[03:51] <mako> juliux, kjcole: fedoras are nice hats
[03:51] <mako> jono: nope
[03:51] <jono> mako: right
[03:51] <sabdfl> ok, Catalan team?
[03:52] <rafael_carreras> her we are
[03:52] <sabdfl> fire away
[03:52] <rafael_carreras> The Ubuntu Catalan LoCo Team is a very active, fast growing group of people that gathers the Catalan-speaking users community of Ubuntu in all its varieties. The scope of the Catalan LoCo Team is mainly the Catalan Countries, that is, the territories where Catalan is traditionally spoken, where members and volunteers are scattered practically all over their geography. Its aim is to support and promote Ubuntu amongst the Catalan
[03:52] <rafael_carreras> speaking community as it is the most important resource of information about Ubuntu in this language. We are a very heterogeneus and varied group of people focused on spreading the free software philosophy, specially Ubuntu, and have several projects in mind that will be carried out by our different workgroups in the near future.
[03:52] <jono> can I just say that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/ApprovalApplication is the finest example of an approval application seen yet in the project
[03:52] <jono> well done
[03:52] <alex_muntada> :-)
[03:52] <rafael_carreras> thanks
[03:52] <arualavi> :)
[03:53] <hugolp> :)
[03:53] <wgarcia> :)
[03:53] <orestes_> wow!
[03:53] <papapep__> thanks
[03:53] <carlesoriol> :)
[03:53] <CoMp4c7> :)
[03:53] <Seveas> jono, whoops, thought i didn't see rafael
[03:53] <mako> ok wait...
[03:53] <mako> i'm getting really confused
[03:55] <dholbach> let's stay at the catalan team now
[03:55] <sabdfl> mako:  happens to me quite often too
[03:55] <sergi> good job!
[03:55] <flint> pqs su
[03:55] <mako> i just got done reading through the stuff on the argentine team
[03:56] <beuno> mako: Catalan team is up first, we got confused
[03:56] <mako> alright
[03:56] <dholbach> the team seems to be up and running quite well - lots of people on the mailing list and nice wiki pages as well
[03:56] <jono> ok catalan
[03:56] <mako> dholbach: the catalan team?
[03:56] <dholbach> yes
[03:56] <jono> I think the team seems to be doing excellent work
[03:56] <jsgotangco> i am not to familiar with catalan or its history, but from what i understand this is a team composed of people using catalan the language so its possible to have members in spain, france and italy?
[03:56] <mako> alright, we're doing the catalan team, in case anyone else is confused
[03:57] <sabdfl> this is pretty fantastic - i love the fact that there is participation from cultural, artistic, development, linguisitic and educational sources
[03:57] <alex_muntada> jsgotangco: that's right
[03:57] <jsgotangco> this is very intereting
[03:57] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/En says "Define activities and objectives." on your TODO list - rafael_carreras: do you have any plans for the next weeks and months?
[03:57] <jono> oh
[03:58] <rafael_carreras> next Sunday we wil have an install--party
[03:58] <jono> so this is about the catalan language?
[03:58] <alex_muntada> dholbach: this is the roadmap, in english https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/ApprovalApplication#head-894924807cb56c0fdfc7c58a49b8de0cf68b5c73
[03:58] <mako> jono: agreed completely
[03:58] <sabdfl> it's very exciting to see this level of activity in the region, two and 1/2 years after our Mataro distro summit :-)
[03:58] <mako> this is a fantastic application
[03:58] <alex_muntada> jono: what do you mean exactly?
[03:59] <sabdfl> +1 from me, and congratulations to the team leaders on doing such a fantastic job of building a diverse community
[03:59] <jsgotangco> "buntu Catalan User community gathers Catalan-speaking users of Ubuntu in all its varieties. The scope of the Catalan LoCo Team is mainly [WWW]  the Catalan Countries, that is, the territories where Catalan is traditionally spoken, where members and volunteers are spread practically all over their geography."
[03:59] <dholbach> alex_muntada: thanks - it looks great
[03:59] <jono> I am keen to see loco teams based mainly on a country or state, and then those teams to come together to form language coalitions
[03:59] <mako> i have been considering moving to barcelona for a bit, this is increasingly my desire to do so :)
[03:59] <jono> is this team for a specific country?
[04:00] <Seveas> jono, a specific region
[04:00] <rafael_carreras> mako: wellcom, then :-)
[04:00] <alex_muntada> jono: no, there's no Catalan country... it's about Catalan Countries
[04:00] <jsgotangco> Spain, Italy, France, Andorra
[04:00] <alex_muntada> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_countries
[04:00] <toniher_uni> hi mako! I see you liked Vilanova
[04:00] <jono> alex_muntada: right, so this team spans a number of countries
[04:00] <jsgotangco> (or areas where catalan is spoken that is)
[04:00] <toniher_uni> Hi all
[04:00] <MikeB-> Northern Spain and Southern France mostly, I think
[04:00] <carlesoriol> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_Countries
[04:01] <alex_muntada> jono: that's it... i.e. in Andorra the official language is Catalan
[04:01] <jono> right
[04:01] <mako> the ultimate sign of a great team is that makes people want to move to their community to participate, +1 from me :)
[04:01] <dholbach> +1 from me too - your team is amazing
[04:01] <jsgotangco> it is a fantastic concept +1 from me
[04:01] <jono> I vote a +1, the team is clearly doing excellent work
[04:01] <Seveas> jono, you can't vote :)
[04:01] <jono> and setting a standard for approval applications
[04:01] <rafael_carreras> thanks a lot!
[04:01] <jono> Seveas: not officially, but anyone can weigh in
[04:01] <MikeB-> +1 from me, your are setting a fantastic example for other LoCos
[04:01] <sabdfl> rafael_carreras: it would be amazing if you guys could write up a 1-page summary of how you inspire your team, which we could share with the rest of the comunityvia Ubuntu Weekly News
[04:02] <rafael_carreras> sabdfl: ok
[04:02] <mako> i think a lot of other teams can learn a lot from you
[04:02] <beuno> rafael_carreras: get in touch with me for that, we have a "special edition" on LoCos
[04:02] <rafael_carreras> beuno: got it
[04:03] <beuno> *we can have, that is
[04:04] <mako> beuno: ok, i guess you're up now, but we have your blurb from last time
[04:04] <beuno> mako: want me to paste it in again?
[04:06] <mako> no, no, i don't thnk that's necessary
[04:07] <mako> beuno: so you've been active for roughly 6 months now, it seems
[04:07] <jsgotangco> bueno: how many active members are there from the LP's 100 listed
[04:07] <jono> argentina team looks good, good to see regular meetings and different activities
[04:07] <jono> healthy membership
[04:07] <mako> reasongly consistent traffic on the list, good site
[04:07] <dholbach> the forum and mailing list look quite active - how's the "Support network for beginners" coming along?
[04:07] <beuno> mako: the team was created in September 2006, and it took a few months to start getting our resources together
[04:08] <beuno> jsgotangco: I'd say around 30ish
[04:08] <beuno> shawarma: Support for beginners is our #1 activity on there
[04:08] <sabdfl> that;s not bad
[04:08] <dholbach> do you use a wiki for support answers? or a mailing list for questions?
[04:08] <sabdfl> i see the team is moderated - what criteria do you apply to allow people into the team?
[04:08] <beuno> we have around 10 or 12 VERY active members
[04:09] <beuno> dholbach: we answer on a case-by-case basis on botht he forum and mailing list
[04:09] <beuno> sabdfl: the team is moderated mainly just to be able to know new members when they arrive, no special requierements
[04:10] <beuno> I like to great them :D
[04:10] <sabdfl> ok
[04:10] <sabdfl> nice to see you using the mentorship piece in LP :-)
[04:10] <beuno> we've been growing pretty fast the past few months, many new members each week all over the country
[04:10] <sabdfl> and the web site is very slick
[04:11] <sabdfl> also, martin is doing amazing work on UWN
[04:11] <sabdfl> so, all in all, +1 from me
[04:11] <beuno> sabdfl: I'm trying to teach everyone to use Launchpad, I'm holding a session for everyone in the LoCo in a few weeks
[04:11] <beuno> sabdfl: thanks, boredandblogging, which is up for membership now has had a lot to do with that :D
[04:12] <beuno> a lot of the LoCo members are here right now watching, maybe they can speak up?
[04:12] <jsgotangco> good idea
[04:12] <eternal1d1> hi
[04:12] <marianom> Hi there. Mariano here, I'm with the Argentina Team too
[04:12] <spg76> hello everyone
[04:12] <duckman> hi!
[04:12] <jmorelli> Hello, thanks Ubuntu, !!!
[04:12] <lavaramano> hi there
[04:12] <eternal1d1> hi, my name is Diego, I'm from the Argentina Locoteam
[04:12] <duckman> here from the arg team =)
[04:12] <mlt> hi :)
[04:13] <sabdfl> welcome all
[04:13] <dholbach> hello Argentina! :-)
[04:13] <sabdfl> and great work!
[04:13] <lavaramano> arg member here
[04:13] <Florencia> Ffrom the Argentina Team
[04:13] <mlt> thanks sabdfl
[04:13] <sabdfl> anybody else from the CC care to weigh in?
[04:13] <jsgotangco> great to see everyone, +1 from me, i just want to ask, any major event the loco would be invoved with
[04:13] <mako> +1 from me as well
[04:13] <dholbach> +1 from me - well done everybody in the Argentina team
[04:14] <MikeB-> +1 here
[04:14] <dudanogueira> bueno, im from the ubuntu-br loco, we can exchange some ideas :) feel free to contact us :)
[04:14] <sabdfl> alrighty
[04:14] <beuno> jsgotangco: yes, we participated in the Flisol event (Instalfest all over latin america), and installed Ubuntu on close to 100 PCs
[04:14] <Seveas> Membership candidates
[04:14] <jmorelli> iupiiii, yeah !!!! beuno, you'r the one man !!!
[04:14] <Seveas> We have 9 of them this time
[04:15] <sabdfl> is everyone on the list, here?
[04:15] <beuno> right, thanks sabdfl, mako, MikeB-, jsgotangco
[04:15] <Seveas> boredandblogging, you're the first (Tm_T and nealcmb are missing)
[04:15] <Daviey> sabdfl, here
[04:15] <duckman> thanks for the membership!
[04:15] <boredandblogging> ok...
[04:15] <jsgotangco> Tm_T?
[04:15] <marianom> thanks!!!!!
[04:15] <boredandblogging> Hi, I'm Nick. I've been a linux user on and off for about 10 years. I've been using Ubuntu exclusively since Breezy. I started getting involved in the Ubuntu community at the beginning of this year. I've been helping the Georgia US LoCo get started and helping out as much as I can on the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter (it was Corey Burger's idea for me to apply for membership). And recently I've started working on the LoCo h
[04:15] <boredandblogging> osting admin team. My wiki page is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NickAli
[04:15] <eternal1d1> thanks !!!
[04:16] <lipe_> thanks!!
[04:16] <beuno> dudanogueira: will get in touch with you, thanks
[04:16] <Vorian> boredandblogging, has done tremendous work for the Marketing Team, his loco team in Georgia (US) and the US teams project.  He is a diamond in the rough!
[04:16] <Florencia> Thanks!
[04:16] <slackwarelife> I'm Massimo, my launchpad id https://launchpad.net/~slackwarelife,   I started with linux 5 years ago. Thanks
[04:17] <atoponce> i'm here to show my support for boredandblogging in building the GA LoCo team. he knows what he's doing, and is very active.
[04:17] <dholbach> slackwarelife: hang on, it's still boredandblogging's turn
[04:17] <Seveas> slackwarelife, please wait your turn
[04:17] <beuno> *behind
[04:17] <jsgotangco> wiki is very informative and shows sustained contribution in UWN and documentation
[04:17] <slackwarelife> dholbach: ok, sorry :-[
[04:17] <MikeB-> boredandblogging: where at in Georgia
[04:17] <boredandblogging> :-)
[04:17] <dholbach> boredandblogging: nice wiki page
[04:18] <boredandblogging> MikeB-, suburbs of Atlanta, Smyrna
[04:18] <nixternal> CC: There isn't much boredandblogging and hasn't helped out with around here when it comes to the marketing team and with the US LoCo Teams! He is my hero, well jsgotangco is my hero, so boredandblogging would be #2 ;p
[04:18] <boredandblogging> nixternal, lol
[04:18] <nixternal> enjoy my wonderful abuse of the english language
[04:18] <MikeB-> boredandblogging: cool, I'm an old member of Athens CHUGALUG
[04:19] <boredandblogging> MikeB-, the guy who started the Georgia LoCo is a member of CHUGALUG
[04:19] <Zelut> When I traveled to GA a few weeks ago boredandblogging setup a meet between myself and some of the team.  It was really productive I think.
[04:19] <Vorian> CC: Since I met boredandblogging, he has done nothing but volunteer for projects, and see them through.  He is also too modest to tell you he is a LoCo website admin appointed by the great newz2000 himself.
[04:20] <MikeB-> boredandblogging also does great work on the Forums
[04:20] <MikeB-> definitely a +1 from me
[04:20] <jsgotangco> I am happy to give my +1 as he is very much involved in almost all facets of community as well as the testimonials presented
[04:20] <jsgotangco> (seems to be long overdue even)
[04:21] <Vorian> jsgotangco, true true :)
[04:22] <jsgotangco> others?
[04:22] <Seveas> how many +1s do we need?
[04:22] <Vorian> the other CC members are in awe of boredandblogging
[04:23] <Seveas> we have 8 CC members, is 4 +1s enough, or do we want 5?
[04:23] <mako> yes, this looks fine +1 from me
[04:23] <dudanogueira> im here :P
[04:23] <mako> Seveas: you should definitely have a majority of those present
[04:23] <mako> Seveas: and ideally a majority of the council
[04:23] <MikeB-> Seveas: I assume a majority
[04:24] <jsgotangco> point of order: a majority of the council would mean 5 members that means at least 5 should be present in every meeting
[04:24] <Seveas> we have 7 present so we need 4
[04:26] <dholbach> Seveas: we have 6 present, no?
[04:26] <dholbach> jsgotangco: yes, we should have 5 in every meeting - that's how I see it too
[04:26] <mako> jsgotangco: yes, that makes sense
[04:27] <MikeB-> corey and matthew are out
[04:27] <dholbach> I'm happy with boredandblogging has worked on until now, so he has my +1 too
[04:28] <elmo> +1
[04:28] <mako> +1 for board and blogging
[04:28] <mako> if i iddn't already
[04:29] <Vorian> w00t! congrats boredandblogging!!!!!
[04:29] <alins> com ha anat?
[04:29] <boredandblogging> wohoo! thanks
[04:29] <Seveas> dholbach, ah, sorry
[04:29] <Seveas> boredandblogging now has +4
[04:29] <Seveas> sabdfl, elmo ?
[04:29] <Zelut> boredandblogging: welcome
[04:29] <etank> good job boredandblogging
[04:29] <elmo> Seveas: I already voted
[04:29] <elmo> 15:28 < elmo> +1
[04:29] <dholbach> Seveas: np
[04:29] <atoponce> boredandblogging: congrats
[04:29] <Vorian> Seveas, he has 5 +1's
[04:30] <Seveas> elmo, one of us is lagging, I saw your vote after my call :)
[04:30] <MikeB-> boredandblogging: congrats
[04:30] <boredandblogging> thanks everyone
[04:30] <Seveas> anyway, congrats boredandblogging
[04:30] <alex_muntada> alins was asking if the catalan team was approved... alins: yes!
[04:30] <Vorian> well deserved boredandblogging :)
[04:30] <Seveas> dudanogueira, you're up
[04:30] <dudanogueira> ok!
[04:31] <sabdfl> welcome, boredandblogging
[04:31] <dudanogueira> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DudaNogueira
[04:31] <mako> i might have to disappear in half an hour
[04:31] <boredandblogging> sabdfl, thanks
[04:31] <dudanogueira> im spreading the ubuntu all over i can.
[04:32] <sabdfl> i have to switch to a conf call, so please keep going without me, will read scrollback
[04:32] <dudanogueira> I'm an active member of ubuntu-br-mg, and also working to expand the Ubuntu Spirit for all over the MG state and, if possible, all over my country. My focus is on something i call "Users Profile Documentation", participating and organizing events (mainly in br-mg) and new users support.
[04:32] <mako> MG is minas gerais?
[04:32] <dudanogueira> mako, yeah!
[04:32] <Seveas> I'm disappearing noe
[04:32] <Seveas> now*
[04:32] <jsgotangco> thanks Seveas
[04:33] <Seveas> will do lp/wiki duties later
[04:33] <mako> Seveas: thanks!
[04:33] <dudanogueira> the most two active loco teams here in BR are MG (licio and me) and BA (Alexandro Silva and Fabio Nogueira)
[04:33] <dholbach> thanks a lot Seveas
[04:33] <mako> dudanogueira: MG is also one of the most populous states, right?
[04:34] <mako> are you in belo horizonte?
[04:34] <dudanogueira> mako on, SP is. we are the thrid ot second most popular
[04:34] <dudanogueira> mako no, SP...
[04:34] <mako> and are things centered around bh? i see it's a very large state
[04:34] <dudanogueira> yes, im in belo horizonte
[04:35] <dudanogueira> mako, Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro is the "center" of brazil. but they loco isnt so strong
[04:35] <jwendell> i confirm the great job dudanogueira is doing. He's very active on IRC also, by helping people
[04:36] <mako> dudanogueira: i like the start you've gotten to on some of your wiki pages
[04:37] <jsgotangco> how active the ubuntu locos are during FISL? i see a jono pic heh
[04:37] <dudanogueira> mako, my next plan is to help the guys of the ubuntu games. theres a very a mount of infos, but all in english. games is very important to catch kids attention. On FISL, when we did a local lan a lot of kids was amazed with the cool games
[04:38] <dudanogueira> jsgotangco, ubuntu here is growing fast. on FISL i can say that we were the most active user groups, and more active then lot of commercial stands
[04:38] <dudanogueira> (sorry about the bad english :P)
[04:38] <dudanogueira> a lot of people asking for help, cds, fotos, sticks every time!
[04:39] <mako> i see you have testimonials on your page
[04:39] <mako> is anyone here to cheer for dudanogueira?
[04:39] <dudanogueira> jwendell, and licio, but licio is on a meeting on his work, and should be back in few minutes
[04:39] <dudanogueira> the other guys coudnt be here now, but let their testimonials
[04:39] <jwendell> mako, i confirm the great job dudanogueira is doing. He's very active on IRC also, by helping people
[04:39] <mako> alright
[04:40] <mako> you've a good deal of visible activity that goes back well into last year
[04:40] <mako> the documentation for some of it could be better, but with a little digging there's a pretty consistent and i suspect sustainable contribution
[04:40] <mako> that i think makes a real difference
[04:40] <mako> especially in your loco
[04:40] <MikeB-> +1, great work
[04:41] <dudanogueira> mako, im good with interviews and all. on FISL i talked for the main TV Station as the a community member
[04:41] <dholbach> +1 from me too
[04:42] <jsgotangco> ok looks good then
[04:42] <dholbach> elmo?
[04:42] <jsgotangco> elmo?
[04:42] <jsgotangco> :D
[04:42] <mako> who's up next
[04:42] <mako> i turn into a pumpkin soon
[04:42] <elmo> +1
[04:42] <jsgotangco> ok DPic
[04:42] <dudanogueira> right now im unemployed (on my own) and working with a UFMG project. last week i installed ubuntu on 20 pcs on their lab, and will continue into the secretary area
[04:42] <jsgotangco> welcome dudanogueira!
[04:42] <dudanogueira> UFMG == Federal College
[04:42] <jwendell> congrats, and welcome, dudanogueira
[04:42] <Belutz> jsgotangco, hi... and congrats :D
[04:42] <dudanogueira> greaaaat!
[04:42] <nealmcb> I"m sorry I missed my spot earlier, but am ready any time.
[04:42] <mako> Dpic?
[04:42] <dholbach> congratulations dudanogueira
[04:43] <mako> Danny Piccirillo?
[04:43] <MikeB-> congrats dudanogueira
[04:43] <jsgotangco> seems not here
[04:43] <dudanogueira> thank you all! Soon i'll be here again asking for a maling for the ubuntu games and sharing some other news :)
[04:43] <mako> ok, moving on
[04:43] <mako> the ominimously named, slackwarelife...
[04:43] <jsgotangco> lol
[04:43] <slackwarelife> I'm Massimo, I'm a Italian lan admin, I work in a Banck and I have started to use linux 5 years ago with Red Had. After I met Slackware using server and there was a big love. Now I'm helping in launchpad answer (I'm a member of Ubuntu support team) and I try to manager some bug. This is my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Slackwarelife (The first part in Italian, the second in English). Sorry for my Engl
[04:44] <slackwarelife> I write this before, hi all
[04:44] <mako> is it possible to grant membership on the condition of a nick change ;)
[04:44] <dholbach> hehe
[04:44] <jsgotangco> lol
[04:44] <mako> nah, slackware was my first too :)
[04:44] <dholbach> what about bddebian then? ;-)
[04:45] <mako> my first love.. the only problem was finding 50 floppy disks :)
[04:45] <dudanogueira> slackware, as jono saw, is a very strong community here in brazil nowdays
[04:45] <jono> indeed
[04:45] <dholbach> slackwarelife: you are quite busy on the answers tracker it seem
[04:45] <slackwarelife> mako: I start with Slack my linux experience, I love it too
[04:45] <jsgotangco> impressive karma
[04:45] <jsgotangco> 19205 in answer tracker
[04:46] <mako> this is true, almost all answers
[04:46] <slackwarelife> dholbach: I like to help who I can
[04:46] <jsgotangco> but there has been a flurry of activity yetersday
[04:46] <mako> slackwarelife: you seem to do a pretty impressive job of it :)
[04:46] <mako> slackwarelife: how long have you been involved in ubuntu?
[04:46] <slackwarelife> mako: I do all I can. Yesterd my wark was very big
[04:47] <slackwarelife> mako 3 weeks
[04:47] <mako> slackwarelife: ok, i'm going to ask that you come back in a couple months
[04:47] <mako> slackwarelife: the requirement for membership is significant and sustained contributions
[04:47] <mako> you've got hte first part, but not the second yet
[04:47] <mako> i presonally like to see at least 3 months of contributions to the project
[04:48] <mako> we want members to people who have put in a long term invement and gotten to know people, etc etc
[04:48] <slackwarelife> mako: ok, I understand
[04:48] <mako> slackwarelife: so my advice would be, KEEP IT UP! :)
[04:48] <mako> you're doing a great job
[04:49] <dholbach> slackwarelife: I'm very happy to see you helping out with answers and bugs, but I agree with mako.
[04:49] <mako> lets see you in a couple months and, if your history is any indiciation, it will be a very easy decision :)
[04:49] <mako> slackwarelife: cool, see you soon!
[04:49] <mako> Knightlust: you around?
[04:49] <Knightlust> My name is Dax Solomon Umaming. Been using Ubuntu since 2005 (Hoary). I'm most involved in advocacy. Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DaxSolomonUmaming Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~knightlust
[04:49] <jsgotangco> same here, keep up those answer tracker performance
[04:50] <mako> Knightlust: if your full name really Dax Solomon Umaming?
[04:50] <Knightlust> yes
[04:50] <mako> because i have to say, that's the coolest name ever :)
[04:50] <jsgotangco> lol
[04:51] <mako> Knightlust: you're lucky
[04:51] <Knightlust> mako: my dad's a hippie, that;s why
[04:51] <mako> i get stuck with the Benny Hill's name.. you don't want to know about my father ;)
[04:51] <kjcole> We had a guy working here named DejaVu Harmony...  Seriously.
[04:52] <dholbach> Knightlust: it seems you're involved in a lot of different Launchpad teams - what have you been focusing on?
[04:52] <jsgotangco> Knightlust: coming from Baguio city, i am not surprised
[04:52] <`23meg>  kjcole, that's more like a font name :)
[04:52] <Knightlust> kubuntu a few months and laptop. but now i'm really into xubuntu and edubuntu
[04:53] <Knightlust> well mostly xfce on edubuntu
[04:53] <jsgotangco> can you elaborate more on your community contribution?
[04:53] <dholbach> Knightlust: did you chat with ogra and janimo/gpocentek already?
[04:54] <Knightlust> I'm now involved with the government of baguio. we'll be installing LTSP on edubuntu in the next few months
[04:54] <Knightlust> elections in the philippines, got it easy with the politicians
[04:54] <Knightlust> dholbach: not yet
[04:55] <jsgotangco> "got it easy with politicians" ?
[04:55] <Knightlust> i actually got back from a talk. engineering society of saint louis university, 2 hours talk a while ago
[04:56] <ogra> Knightlust, oh, i'd appreciate if someone could care for the xfce stuff we have on the edubuntu addon CD now :)
[04:56] <Knightlust> jsgotangco: it's easy convincing them, they need my vote
[04:56] <ogra> feel free to pop in to #edubuntu at any time :)
[04:56] <Knightlust> will do ogra
[04:56] <ogra> :)
[04:56] <jsgotangco> Knightlust: i am not sure I'd like to take that in a nice way
[04:57] <sabdfl> +1 from me, belatedly, for dudanoguiera, for contributions to the IRC, lists and local team building
[04:57] <Knightlust> hehe, well, they love to take credit for it. and Gov. Domogan loved the idea
[04:58] <sabdfl> mako: which TZ are you in?
[04:59] <sabdfl> +1 from me for slackwarelife, on the back of a superb contribution to community support and QA
[05:00] <sabdfl> oh, noting the 3 week track record, support the suggestion to come back in a month or so
[05:00] <mako> sabdfl: utc-4
[05:00] <slackwarelife> sabdfl: thanks, but i understand mako's idea
[05:00] <Belutz> jsgotangco, have a time to chat? :)
[05:01] <jsgotangco> Belutz: feel free to PM
[05:01] <Belutz> jsgotangco, ok
[05:01] <MikeB-> +1 for me Knightlust, if it is not too late, seem to be lagging
[05:01] <mako> no, we didn't decide on Knightlust
[05:01] <BenC> you guys take your time though, we have a light agenda
[05:02] <mako> at least lets finish with Knightlust
[05:02] <sabdfl> Knightlust: how long have you been contributing to the project?
[05:02] <mako> Knightlust: are you associated with a loco?
[05:03] <Knightlust> since January 2007, but my previous work at a call center, its' 2 years but not really focused into Ubuntu
[05:03] <Knightlust> in our call center, we focus on all distros.. mako: ubuntu-ph
[05:05] <jsgotangco> well what i can say about Knightlust is that he has been very enthusiastic on helping out to organizations that need some sort of orientation towards ubuntu or free software
[05:05] <dholbach> it seems that most of your advocacy actions will be in the next weeks
[05:06] <jsgotangco> that as well
[05:06] <jsgotangco> from what I know, he has been pretty involved in having good webcam support
[05:07] <dholbach> Knightlust: have you been involved with ubuntu-ph for your advocacy work?
[05:08] <Knightlust> yes, my work at our lady of lourdes college
[05:09] <dholbach> have you been working together with other team members for the presentations?
[05:10] <Knightlust> dholbach: no, i got them mostly from the research and the presentation wiki
[05:10] <mako> dholbach: yeah,  that's what i'm trying to get at
[05:10] <mako> you've obviously done great work
[05:11] <sabdfl> +1 from me for knightlust
[05:12] <MikeB-> +1 for knightlust
[05:12] <mako> yeah +1 fro mme
[05:12] <jsgotangco> i would give my +1 as well as I've seen him take action effectively, but am not sure about the politicians thing ;-)
[05:12] <mako> Knightlust: but i think your work will benefit from hooking up with others more frequently
[05:13] <mako> jsgotangco: we can each have our own battles :)
[05:13] <dholbach> +1 from me too
[05:13] <Knightlust> mako, will do that
[05:13] <mako> since there's another meeting scheduled here, it might be worth postponing the last two on the list
[05:13] <jsgotangco> i just don't like the idea, we just had our elections yesterday, and its not really a pretty sight
[05:13] <Daviey> mako, :(
[05:13] <nealmcb> :(
[05:13] <dholbach> and it'd be nice to hear how your presentations go
[05:13] <`23meg> :( indeed
[05:13] <Knightlust> thanks all
[05:14] <mako> Daviey and `23meg, i guess that's you
[05:14] <`23meg> yep :)
[05:14] <nealmcb> Again, sorry to miss my spot earlier - it's early here....
[05:14] <jsgotangco> and nealmcb
[05:14] <Daviey> mako, one of my supporters has made a special effort to be here - late for a new job! :(
[05:14] <mako> well, you'll be first next time :)
[05:14] <mako> Daviey: we're already 15 minutes into another meetings time
[05:14] <`23meg> I think the kernel team isn't in much hurry
[05:14] <kjcole> Ta-ta then...
[05:14] <superm1> BenC, would it be okay to at least squeeze one more?
[05:15] <mako> superm1: two more, and with our current timing that might be half an hour
[05:15] <BenC> I think we can do with 30 minutes for our meeting, just wondering if there's anyone waiting for it besides the ones that are paid to :)
[05:15] <zul> me but I can wait
[05:16] <mbt> Same here.  I just like to watch.  :)
[05:16] <superm1> me, i'm a bit late for work in trying to wait on this -
[05:17] <BenC> How about this, I'll move kernel team meeting to #ubuntu-kernel, you guys finish up with CC, that's more important
[05:17] <mako> BenC: ok
[05:17] <mako> BenC: thanks for being accomidating
[05:17] <BenC> no problem
[05:17] <superm1> thx BenC :)
[05:18] <mako> `23meg: go, quickly
[05:18] <`23meg> Hello. I'm a 26 year old hybrid of a freelance designer, graduate student and starving artist living in stanbul, Turkey. I've been using Ubuntu full time since the mid-Warty period, and my most significant contributions have been providing support and writing guides in the forums, where I signed up in March 2005, and doing translations in Rosetta. I'm also one of the leaders of the newly formed Forum Ambassadors team, which is working
[05:18] <`23meg>  on improving the connection between the forums and the rest of the community.
[05:18] <mako> i need to disappear in -15 minutes
[05:18] <`23meg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MuratGunes
[05:19] <jsgotangco> any forum ambassadors advocating for `23meg
[05:19] <mako> holy crap, that's a lot of posts to the forums
[05:19] <`23meg> :)
[05:19] <MikeB-> I would like to say that 23meg is one of the true leader in the forums. He does a fantastic job there
[05:19] <dholbach> mako: yeah, definitely agreed
[05:20] <mako> `23meg: i'm impressed with the bredth of your contributions, and with the depth of your work in the forums
[05:20] <dholbach> `23meg: you want to join the MOTUs? anything you'd like to work on?
[05:20] <mako> any other testimonials?
[05:21] <Hobbsee> from what i see, doing a bit fo FA stuff, he seems pretty clueful
[05:21] <PriceChild> Very active member, helpful :)
[05:21] <mako> or other people from the forums that can speak to the nature of `23meg's contributions as a hole
[05:21] <jsgotangco> "hole"
[05:21] <nealmcb> sounds more like a mountain than a hole
[05:22] <mako> whole, whole
[05:22] <`23meg> dholbach, I'm planning to look into stuff missing from Universe that gets popular requests in the forums; whatever part of it I can maintain
[05:23] <dholbach> `23meg: let me know how your way into MOTU goes :-)
[05:23] <sabdfl> +1 from me for `23meg on forums contribution!
[05:23] <`23meg> dholbach, will do :)
[05:23] <dholbach> +1 from me too
[05:23] <MikeB-> +1 for me, only because I can't give a +2 or more
[05:23] <dholbach> MikeB-: hehe
[05:23] <`23meg> :) thanks everyone.
[05:24] <Daviey> me?
[05:24] <mako> well +1 from me, not a hard decisoin
[05:24] <mako> Daviey: yes, you're up
[05:24] <sabdfl> Daviey: fire away :-)
[05:24] <Daviey> Hi, I'm Dave Walker and i would like to be considered to become a Ubuntu Member.  My wikipage is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/davewalker .  I'm currently involved mainly with the Mythtv for Ubuntu and actively contribute to my LoCo (Ubuntu-uk).  Currently I'm No2 contributor to #ubuntu-uk (I'm sure popey is a bot).   I also contribute towards advocacy towards FOSS with my highlight being a recent letter being printed in a UK national newspaper.
[05:24] <nealmcb> mako: and if there is time, me also?
[05:24] <Daviey> Everything else should be on the wiki :)
[05:25] <Daviey> popey couldn't be here, but sang a song for me (scroll up)
[05:25] <mako> nealmcb: we'll see
[05:25] <mako> popey: i saw it
[05:25] <MikeB-> Daviey: I saw it
[05:25] <mako> sorry, Daviey i aw it
[05:25] <loudmouthman> And the Loudmouthman chimes in with Daviey is a fine addition and exemplary community member to the UK and UK irc group.
[05:26] <Daviey> (and the UK in general) :)
[05:26] <mako> anyone else from the uk loco
[05:26] <superm1> Daviey has been a great help with the -mythtv team and newly starting mythbuntu team as well
[05:26] <dholbach> Daviey: you're part of ubuntu universe contributors? what have you been up to? also the BugSquad - how did it go in there?
[05:26] <Daviey> mako, I think only popey and loudmouthman are aware I'm standing
[05:27] <loudmouthman> whoops wrong channel !
[05:27] <superm1> these last few months he's in the channel as much as possible helping out with support to users coming in and providing more ideas for the team
[05:27] <Daviey> dholbach, At this stage i have only contributed one package of my own work, but have worked on joint efforts for some other packages
[05:28] <dholbach> Daviey: great, which one is that? have you helped out with reviewing or how have the joint efforts worked out?
[05:28] <Daviey> dholbach, There is a link at the bottom of the wiki to the package.
[05:29] <dholbach> ah ok
[05:29] <dholbach> what about the bugsquad? what did you do in there? did you find it easy to contribute?
[05:29] <Daviey> not at all!  It can be quite difficult the interact with the bugreporter
[05:30] <Daviey> Especially trying to get dumps and other crash reports from users
[05:32] <mako> well, you've done a wide variety of different types of work and have been around and active for a long time
[05:32] <sabdfl> Daviey: do you have any feedback on tools we can build to improve that, for example, apport?
[05:32] <mako> i'm happy with membership, +1 from me
[05:32] <superm1> Daviey,  has been quite instrumental in mythbuntu's start, and managed to go the extra mile in getting us our domain.  He ended up having to phone someone half way across the world who had already purchased it, and got him to join our team. (you can see the site in the works at www.mythbuntu.org )
[05:32] <X3N> I love Daviey
[05:33] <Daviey> sabdfl, certainly - i think if amport could be interactive
[05:33] <sabdfl> and could you give us a quick status report on mythbuntu?
[05:33] <Daviey> sabdfl, i suspect there are triagers who are happy to man 1-1 at inital report... We are a big enough community with timezones and such
[05:33] <superm1> atm we have an alpha ready
[05:33] <superm1> that works as a live cd frontend
[05:33] <superm1> and a basic frontend/backend installation
[05:34] <superm1> what remains is a lot of work to the installer
[05:34] <superm1> to handle the different types of installations
[05:34] <Daviey> sabdfl, we do have an alpha image avaliable - currently our next task is to get a grip on ubiquity installer
[05:35] <dholbach> Daviey: you also seem to be quite interested in asterisk - do you think there's anything we could improve there?
[05:35] <dholbach> hi Burgundavia
[05:35] <Daviey> dholbach, definitely - we need FreePBX in universe
[05:35] <MikeB-> Burgundavia: found some internet I see:)
[05:35] <Burgundavia> indeed
[05:35] <Burgundavia> hostel in Madrid
[05:35] <dholbach> Daviey: it'd be nice to have a ubuntu-voip team taking care of that
[05:35] <Daviey> That is on my todo list of packages for MOTU
[05:36] <Daviey> dholbach, that's definitely a team i'd like to join.  Myth team might not like me sharing resources tho :)
[05:36] <superm1> :)
[05:36] <sabdfl> +1 from me for Daviey
[05:37] <jsgotangco> +1 from me as well for Daviey
[05:37] <dholbach> +1 from me too - it'd be nice to have your input for a ubuntu-voip team :)
[05:37] <Daviey> dholbach, also UDS seville VOIP improvements :)
[05:38] <MikeB-> +1 for me
[05:39] <Burgundavia> anybody working on asterisk is a +1 from me :)
[05:39] <dholbach> nealmcb: still around?
[05:39] <Daviey> Wooo... thanks guys!  And especially thanks to superm1 for making himself late for work to say what he did
[05:39] <dholbach> are you the last on our list?
[05:39] <nealmcb> yup
[05:40] <nealmcb> I woke up a bit late...
[05:40] <superm1> congrats Daviey .  catch up with you later
[05:40] <loudmouthman> Congrats Daviey
[05:40] <sabdfl> i have to step afk, good luck nealmcb, welcome aboard Daviey
[05:40] <nealmcb> I'm Neal McBurnett.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NealMcBurnett   I've been an Ubuntu user, promoter, contributor and distributor since the first release in 2004, on servers and desktops, for myself and several non-profit organizations. I've been active with *nix since 1977 (at Bell Labs) and have never had Windoze on my desktop.
[05:40] <nealmcb> if there's time...
[05:40] <Daviey> thanks sabdfl and cc
[05:40] <jsgotangco> 1977! I was just 3 years old!
[05:40] <nealmcb> I know you want to go, mako....
[05:41] <nealmcb> jsgotangco: :-)
[05:41] <mako> nealmcb: it's fine. i brought my laptop to the meeting :)
[05:41] <nealmcb> I've been active in the Colorado LoCo, having helped Joey start it a year ago.  I've edited a bunch of wiki pages, authored the identity-selector spec and commented on others.  Some examples are linked to from my wiki page.
[05:41] <nealmcb> I'm now working on an Ubucon for Colorado, having helped organize two Barcamps, and beginning to get my feet wet with code contributions via bzr and Launchpad. I'd like to also use my enterprise Linux/Solaris experience from Internet2 and Bell Labs to contribute to the NetworkAuthentication efforts.  And I'm hoping to participate in a Colorado education conference where one of our members is presenting an Ubuntu demo: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/TIE
[05:42] <nealmcb> What I didn't do was get testimonials from joey stanford, nixternal, ajmitch or some others I can think of
[05:42] <nealmcb> I've been "slow but steady" in my contributions....
[05:44] <jsgotangco> anyone from the colorado team at the moment?
[05:45] <mako> it looks grewat
[05:45] <mako> but i would really like to hear from some people in your loco if that's where you locate most of your contributions
[05:45] <nealmcb> On his page, joey says "These folks are worth getting to know.    Neal McBurnett - Invented the Internet and speaks Esperanto  "
[05:46] <nealmcb> He looked my page over and gave me advice but I forgot to ask him for a testimonial....
[05:46] <dholbach> ajmitch might be well sleep now
[05:46] <Burgundavia> indeed
[05:47] <Burgundavia> nealmcb: any esperanto people here to comment on that translation work?
[05:47] <nealmcb> Mi dubas... :-)
[05:47] <nealmcb> I doubt it
[05:47] <dholbach> nealmcb: you're involved in a lof of specifications - are there any where you'd like to get involved in?
[05:47] <nealmcb> The network auth area is the place
[05:48] <Burgundavia> I see you contributed code to n-a
[05:48] <nealmcb> See e.g. my spec for identity-selector (above)
[05:48] <Burgundavia> anything else aside from the linked code?
[05:48] <nealmcb> Not yet in n-a
[05:49] <Burgundavia> hmm, not having any endorsements makes it hard to judge
[05:49] <nealmcb> ajmitch included it, but it was just better doc for the README :-)
[05:49] <mako> nealmcb: why don't you just have the loco people send testimonials
[05:49] <mako> i'm happy to make a decision by email
[05:49] <nealmcb> :-)
[05:49] <dholbach> and the network-authentication people too
[05:49] <mako> i don't suspect it will be problematic
[05:49] <mako> right
[05:50] <Burgundavia> that works for me as well
[05:50] <jsgotangco> same here should be easy enough
[05:50] <dholbach> yeah, I'm happy with that too
[05:50] <nealmcb> mail to who?
[05:50] <mako> nealmcb: just have folks email community-council@lists.ubuntu.com
[05:50] <jsgotangco> (not to mention i gotta crash as well)
[05:50] <mako> yeah, this meeting has gone on too long
[05:50] <nealmcb> will do - thanks - I'll let you go....
[05:50] <mako> thanks everyone
[05:50] <dholbach> thanks a lot nealmcb
[05:50] <mako> one last thing
[05:50] <dholbach> thanks
[05:50] <mako> next meeting
[05:50] <mako> two weeks from today, how about a bit later
[05:50] <mako> 22UTC, lets say?
[05:50] <Burgundavia> that works
[05:51] <jsgotangco> should work for me if i get up early
[05:51] <mako> 5/29 22UTC
[05:51] <dholbach> 20 utc maybe? else it will be ~2-3 in the morning for me when the meeting finishes :)
[05:51] <mako> sounds good
[05:51] <mako> dholbach: 2 hours meeting
[05:51] <mako> i think we should get facist about this
[05:51] <dholbach> so 2 in the morning, when it finishes
[05:51] <mako> especially now that we're just a much larger group
[05:51] <mako> ok
[05:52] <mako> can 21UTC work?
[05:52] <dholbach> wfm
[05:52] <jsgotangco> ok not bad i will still be able to do my morning run
[05:52] <mako> dholbach: the whole point is to make it possible for different group
[05:52] <dholbach> yeah
[05:52] <mako> dholbach: like west coast users
[05:52] <dholbach> right
[05:52] <mako> USers
[05:52] <mako> not users
[05:52] <MikeB-> 21 or 22 UTC works for me
[05:53] <jsgotangco> holy cow that's 5am for me heh we'll see
[05:53] <mako> alright, i'll mail seveas
[05:53] <mako> jsgotangco: yeah, you don't have to make it :)
[05:53] <mako> that's why we're a big group
[05:53] <jsgotangco> yup
[05:54] <mako> so, this is the first meeting with the new council, right?
[05:54] <jsgotangco> yup
[05:54] <dholbach> yeah :)
[05:54] <mako> well, then THANK YOU NEW COUNCIL
[05:54] <MikeB-> seems to be
[05:54] <nealmcb> Thanks to you all for volunteering!!
[05:54] <orestesmas> Thank you all from Orestes - CatalanTeam
[05:54] <rafael_carreras> thank you all
[05:54] <carlesoriol> Many thanks - catalan team
[05:54] <arualavi> thank you all!
[05:54] <papapep__> People from CC, many, many thanks from Catalunya -CatalanTeam
[05:54] <jsgotangco> our pleasure OLD COUNCIL
[05:54] <jsgotangco> :D
[05:54] <alex_muntada> thank you all and congrats to new members and teams!
[05:54] <mako> i think this is a quiet but a major major milestone for the council and for the community more broadly
[05:54] <MikeB-> thanks mako, and congrats to new Locos and members
[05:55] <boredandblogging> thanks everyone
[05:55] <mako> canonical employees are now in a minority on our highest governing board
[05:55] <jsgotangco> thanks good one
[05:55] <mako> ;)
[05:55] <MikeB-> mako: lol
[05:55] <mako> thanks everyone, see you all next time
[05:55] <dholbach> :-)
[05:55] <dholbach> thanks - see you
[05:56] <jsgotangco> ohhh mobile mockups
[05:56] <MikeB-> later all
[05:56] <jono> jsgotangco: where are the mockups?
[05:56] <mako> nealmcb: nice that you're a wikipedian also :)
[05:56] <Burgundavia> hmm, indeed
[05:57] <jsgotangco> jono: kwii sent them to the embedded list
[05:57] <mako> all my favorite projects :)
[05:57] <jono> link?
[05:57] <mako> good day/night/morning all!
[05:57] <nealmcb> mako: thanks - fun
[05:58] <nealmcb> I wish we could track moin entries like wikipedia entries
[05:58] <Burgundavia> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mobile/2007-May/000018.html
[05:58] <jsgotangco> jono: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mobile/2007-May/000018.html
[05:58] <nealmcb> good incentive for contributors to count 'em up
[06:33] <Spec> does anyone have today's CC meeting logs?
[06:35] <pochu> !logs
[06:35] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[07:31] <ian_brasil_> #ubuntu-mobile
[08:03] <amachu> hi
[08:03] <amachu> the CC meeting got over?
[08:03] <amachu> at 13.00 hrs?
[08:04] <dholbach> hello amachu
[08:04] <amachu> dholbach: hi
[08:04] <amachu> amachu: was the cc meeting over?
[08:04] <dholbach> yes, it's over
[08:04] <dholbach> it was at May 15 2007, 13:00 UTC
[08:04] <dholbach> UTC
[08:04] <amachu> ok..
[08:04] <dholbach> what timezone are you in?
[08:05] <amachu> India
[08:05] <dholbach> if you run    date -u   it will tell you what time it is in UTC
[08:05] <amachu> dholbach: no problem.. any discussion on Ubuntu derivative
[08:07] <dholbach> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-current.html
[08:07] <dholbach> 03:03 until 03:07