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aboyousifis it normal to find more thank 1 apache2 task in xfce-taskmanager ?12:36
aboyousifJester45, even if it is 10 ?12:37
Jester45well it depends on your apache config12:37
Jester45each new client starts a new process12:38
Jester45but at startup it have by defualt 5 i think12:38
aboyousifJester45, aha ..got it .. thanks12:38
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ArtokalIs there a place on the Xubuntu website where I can find a list of all the programs that come with the "xubuntu-desktop" package?12:53
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ubotuk/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.01:09
Jester45!info xubuntu-desktop01:10
ubotuxubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.29 (feisty), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB01:10
Jester45nope not that i know of01:10
ArtokalGuess I'll just put it on my empty server install and find out :)01:12
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Jester45Artokal: you dont have to install01:14
Jester45if you start to install it will tell you want you need to get01:14
BFTDyo all01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sudoku - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
Jester45the "extra" packages are what it depends on01:15
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BFTD!info sudoku01:15
ubotusudoku: console based sudoku. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 116 kB01:15
Jester45!info sudoku01:15
BFTDwhat a good sudoku?01:16
Jester45flash ones?01:16
ArtokalNah, I wanted to get xubuntu anyways, but I just dident know what programs it came with from an install (the xubuntu-desktop package should be the same as installing it from the cd? right?)01:17
Jester45i would get a flash ones01:17
Jester45i my self dont like the game01:18
BFTDnot a math person eh?01:19
Jester45im fine with math01:19
BFTDthey should add a sourceforge repo01:20
Jester45but i would rather play a game01:20
BFTDthat would be awesome01:20
BFTDwhich game>?01:20
Jester45many depends on what im one and what i have to play01:20
Jester45as school i cant install anything so i cant play good games01:21
Jester45and depending on the class room i can ftp a game or play with photoshop01:22
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ArtokalBFTD: A sourceforge repo would be pretty sweet01:24
Jester45i dont see how it would work01:25
Jester45unless you had someone to test all the projects01:26
Jester45and have all the projects state dependacies01:26
ArtokalHmm, it would be a big hassle, but just imagine how awsome it would be it it all magicaly worked :P01:27
BFTDyeah it would be a lot of work, you would have to notify the maintainers of the projects and ask them to pitch in01:27
Jester45i mean01:27
Jester45someone could make it a third party repo with a script that excules mac/windows sources01:28
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Jester45and give you no promisses that it would work01:28
Jester45and the mantanier could get a few people to try each one or some people to make a list of depenacies01:29
Jester45it would never be able to have a supported thing01:29
Jester45it would be a repo that you add from guides to get s special version of somthing01:29
Jester45one of those01:29
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BFTDwhich is fine01:34
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Jester45can wget download anything in a directory?01:37
Jester45like download the directory01:37
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BFTDJester45 I think so01:44
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Jester45normaly is02:04
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aboyousifJester45, did you able to get the directory contents with wget ?02:05
aboyousifJester45, i tried before more than once and i fail too .. if the files are series you can do a sript to write their urls to a file and then run wget -i filename02:06
LectusHello! I download the ISO, but when I burned to the CD it was with some problem on the CD, so I couldn't start it. Now I installed xubuntu using apt-get xubuntu-desktop. I'm running it, ok. But the menus are now very messed up. Is there a way to fix that?02:06
Jester45aboyousif: its a few hundred files02:06
Jester45Lectus: remove all the gnome or kde stuff02:07
Jester45thats more tricky02:08
Jester45you have to know thatpackages are messing the menu02:08
Jester45if you find a package where you dont want and dont need the package, remove it02:09
Jester45but i have to go02:09
LectusI think I'm going to download the ISO again. I liked xubuntu, but I don't know why I ran the CD check at boot time it was broke. Is there a way to prevent that the next time I burn it? Is there a md5 or something?02:10
PumpernickelThere is, and it should be available from the same download page.02:11
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LectusAnother thing: the windows and menus are not completely in my native language. it's mixed with english02:13
T`anyeone herae able to use WPA on ubuntu? never works for me02:13
LectusProbably because gnome is installed too?02:13
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LectusSo, I was using Ubuntu with Gnome... now I installed xubuntu-desktop and liked it more. Can I uninstall Gnome to have a instalation as if I just installed xubuntu?02:25
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Pumpernickelapt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && apt-get autoremove should take out most of it.02:27
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sl00Where can I find a list of packages that will be installed by default if I install Xutunbu?02:31
cjaeI apologize on behalf of my dumb friend posting up rubbish and for me not locking the screen or smacking him with a stick which I still might do02:34
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cjaesorry wrong channel02:36
cjaehow do make opticals auto umount02:38
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BFTDups hates me03:27
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vidd_laptopanyone get the bcm43xx driver to work in fiesty?04:20
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neozengreetings all04:29
vidd_laptop*wave* neozen04:29
neozenhey there04:30
vidd_laptopknow anyone who got a bcm43xx wireless to work?04:31
neozenis apparently the one true way04:32
vidd_laptopwithout ndiswrapper04:32
vidd_laptopwith the native driver?04:32
neozenthough my experience is still limited04:32
neozenI've only set up...... about 5 of that series of card04:33
neozen...I've just used ndiswrapper because it worked04:33
neozen...didn't really have time (or desire since they weren't my cards) to mess around w/ doing it the Right way04:33
vidd_laptopwith that kind of thinking...i might as well use windows04:34
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neozenyour choice I suppose04:34
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vidd_laptopmy choice is to get this card to work with the native driver in linux04:35
neozenyou have fun with that04:35
neozen...make it a quest04:35
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vidd_laptopor not to use it at all04:35
neozen...I have a friend that went that route04:35
neozenbought an atheros-based card... and it just worked04:36
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vidd_laptopthe OTHER laptop needs a pcmcia card (as yet unpurchased)04:38
neozen...this is why there can be only one04:38
neozenmy old one lives in the closet as a paper weight...04:38
neozen....it deserves it04:38
vidd_laptopdoes it have a pcmcia card that is NOT bcm43xx?04:39
neozenhad power issues... then went kersplat in the middle of saving a term paper04:39
vidd_laptophehe ill pay shipping!04:39
neozen....I used a prism2_usb in that thing04:39
neozennamely the ma111v104:39
neozennot exactly out of box... but something resembling it04:39
neozenout of box working that is04:40
vidd_laptopi figured that was what ya meant04:40
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neozenwell... time to watch firefly04:57
neozenits been too long04:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:05
BFTDhow do I convert whatever-video-format to .avi?05:07
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VxJasonxVmplayer / mencode05:14
BFTDsomeone write a frontend for ffmpeg encoding05:24
PumpernickelBFTD: http://en.linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_Convert_video_files05:27
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cellofellowis there some command that will just log out xfce4? Something scriptable.05:47
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BFTDonmy player it has a .trash folder, how do I remove that?05:56
BFTDI got it05:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about raw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:00
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FrozenDawnhello there06:11
FrozenDawngood evening.06:13
FrozenDawnI've just installed an xubuntu06:13
FrozenDawnand now I am seeking the configs to cups06:13
FrozenDawndo you happen to know where they are ?06:14
FrozenDawn(is cups up by default ?)06:16
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VxJasonxVFrozenDawn, start the process if you haven't already ( sudo /etc/init.d/cups start ) and then open a web browser to http://localhost:63106:27
VxJasonxVthere's probably a better way to do it, but I don't remember what it is :)06:27
FrozenDawnthank you very much06:37
FrozenDawni got no /etc/init.d/cups. just cupsys. It should work, right ?06:38
VxJasonxVyeah, should06:39
FrozenDawndo you know if there is a difference ?06:40
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FrozenDawnwell, just printed my first page on the new system07:19
FrozenDawnseams I am ready to go07:19
FrozenDawn(and I am off now, so, goodbye !)07:19
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trippppyim trying to automate a bunch of commands but i don't know where to start. even on google.07:27
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PumpernickelWhich commands?07:49
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=== Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Xubuntu 7.04 is out! | Downloads at http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
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Merchelowhere would i find info about a unix machine, as in specs and OS and the like?09:26
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TheSheepMerchelo: unix machine?09:36
Merchelowell one is some sort of sparc server, the other is a dell server, and a normal pc running xubuntu09:37
TheSheepMerchelo: 'uname -a' should tell you about the system (at least about the kernel)09:38
TheSheepMerchelo: if there is /proc, you can check /proc/cpuinfo and /proc/meminfo09:38
Merchelocool thanks09:39
TheSheepMerchelo: on the xubuntu, you can use 'lspci' to list connected devices09:39
Myrttilsusb too09:39
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TheSheepMerchelo: I think there was also some program that collects all that info, lshw or something09:39
TheSheep!info lshw09:40
ubotulshw: information about hardware configuration. In component main, is standard. Version 02.08.01-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 284 kB, installed size 712 kB09:40
Mercheloyeah, gottit thanks, just wondering the number of cpu's on each machine09:41
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guigzhello,is there ppc xubuntu port?09:48
guigzI'd like to revive anot so old mac09:48
Merchelo!ppc | guigz09:48
ubotuguigz: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ09:48
Merchelowhy up to edgy ?09:49
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b52newhey, i installed xubuntu-desktop after i installed the normal ubuntu11:43
b52newthen i purged ubuntu-desktop but gnome is still there11:43
b52newcan someone help me11:44
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grazieb52new: removing ubuntu by removing ubuntu-desktop does not work. There's a good link somewhere...lemme find it for you. A fresh install is best though11:52
b52newbut now i still installed ubuntu normal :/11:52
grazieb52new: I don't follow11:55
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genshui'm running a mongrel server for my RoR apps and now I want to show it to public, i can access the server via localhost:3000 - but by just entering my ip:3000 it doesnt work01:17
genshuhow can i route it through?01:18
Myrttihow does this relate to xfce?01:18
Jester45are you sure thats your ip some isp use proxies that cover the real ip01:18
Myrttijust a thought...01:18
genshuhm, i should get my ip by ifconfig, right?01:19
genshubut well this is my local ip then01:19
Jester45genshu: thats right01:19
genshuthe local works, problem: only for me01:20
genshui want to show the page a friend who's not in my local net01:20
genshuany ideas?01:21
genshui'm quite stupid on that topic01:21
Jester45what kind of sever?01:22
genshuruby server01:23
Jester45i never used it01:23
genshui have an idea! isn't there a program, that routes the ip?01:23
genshui forgot it's name01:23
genshuyou start it, it checks your local ip and routes it via a service to an xy.ip2go.com or somewhat like this01:24
Jester45maybe you have to get DynDns going01:24
genshuyes that was the name!! thank you :)01:24
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Jester45and if you are using apt you can after setting up the service install ddclient to autoupdate01:25
genshuthank you a lot01:27
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b52newwhats the name of the network manager of xubuntu?02:24
aboyousif!netwok-manager | b52new02:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about netwok-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:26
aboyousif!network-manager | b52new02:26
ubotub52new: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager02:26
b52newaboyousif when i make sudo aptitude install networkmanager he tells it doesnt exist02:29
aboyousifb52new, it is network-manager not networkmanager02:30
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aboyousifb52new, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=network-manager&searchon=names&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all02:30
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b52newaboyousif network-manager is ot installed02:41
b52newso which package is the std network manager on xubuntu?=02:41
aboyousifb52new, run sudo network-admin02:45
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LectusI just installed Xubuntu03:11
LectusWhat package do I need to play mp3 files?03:11
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Catoptromancyi lost it03:21
CatoptromancyLectus, would you mind having codecs for nearly every media format?03:23
CatoptromancyI have a long command that installs everything03:23
Lectuswhat command?03:25
PumpernickelLectus: libxine-extracodecs, for Edgy and earlier, or libxine1-ffmpeg for Feisty.03:25
Catoptromancywell pastebin is frozen03:25
PumpernickelThat will work with xfmedia or any other xine-based media player.03:25
Catoptromancysudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui03:26
Catoptromancylooks like it install gxine too03:26
Lectusok... thanks03:27
LectusI'll try03:27
CatoptromancyI use kaffeine and it works nearly perfect03:27
Catoptromancysome odd video format is kinda blurry03:27
LectusAlso, I've noted that Xubuntu comes only with Abiword. I want also to have a presentations program (Powerpoint-like), so I should install OpenOffice, right? Or are there any lighter solution?03:28
Catoptromancyopenoffice is great03:28
Catoptromancyabiword has mem leaks03:28
Catoptromancysometimes I open a txt and close it03:29
Catoptromancyand my cpu flat lines red03:29
Catoptromancyand I need to terminate abiword03:29
CatoptromancyI jsut erased it, openoffice and mousepad all i use03:29
Catoptromancydunno what happen to abiword03:29
CatoptromancyLectus, if your ubuntu didnt come with openoffice03:30
Catoptromancyyou probably dont have feisty03:30
Catoptromancymy feisty came with it03:30
LectusNope... I have feisty03:32
Lectusbut I installed only Xubuntu03:32
pleia2I am not sure xubuntu has openoffice03:32
pleia2Lectus: just install open office, yes03:32
LectusI was using Ubuntu, and then I decided to do a clean install of Xubuntu as I liked it more03:32
CatoptromancyI have Alt CD of Xubuntu and it came with openoffice word processor03:32
pleia2unfortunately I don't believe there is a lighter solution :(03:32
Catoptromancyopenoffice is pretty light compared to what it does03:33
LectusYes, ubuntu had openoffice and it was great. I'll unsintall Abiword and install OpenOffice which is more complete03:33
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LectusI'm using the aqua theme for Xubuntu, pretty beautiful and light :D03:35
Lectusbetter linux distro I installed so far03:35
Lectusand I've tried quite others03:35
CatoptromancyIU would put xfce on any distro03:35
Lectusyes... but I like ubuntu base03:36
Lectusand the repository03:36
CatoptromancyIve been experimenting with slackware03:36
Catoptromancybut I dont think ill ever get rid of xubuntu03:36
Catoptromancyon my main PC03:36
Catoptromancydebian with xfce seems pretty sweet too03:37
LectusI like the easy of installation and use of (K / X)ubuntu03:38
aboyousifany one tried fluxubuntu ?03:38
CatoptromancyI do have fluxbox03:39
Catoptromancybut i dont know command to switch to it03:39
LectusI've first tried Kubuntu which looked to run faster than Ubuntu on the live cd, then I installed Ubuntu more polished. Then I installed xubuntu-desktop and liked XFCE a lot. So, I decided to have a clean install of Xubuntu, and download the ISO and installed. I'm now running Xubuntu with dual boot to WinXP. But, I'm very impressed. Xubuntu makes my desktop lighter and good looking.03:44
LectusI wonder why they don't ship Xubuntu CDs as they do with Ubuntu and Kubuntu.. Xubuntu is the best one I've tried.03:45
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Catoptromancyxfce is pretty small, you can just download it by itself03:50
Catoptromancyand install it on any other ubuntu03:50
Catoptromancywhen you start it up, it should look llike xubuntu03:51
LectusI don't need Gnome03:52
Lectusso I installed only xubuntu03:52
Catoptromancyive see nscreen shots03:52
CatoptromancyI dont really like how it looks03:52
Catoptromancyxfce is great03:52
LectusWhen I installed xubundu-desktop from Ubuntu the menus looked messed up. So, I've decided to go with only xubuntu clean install and add the software I want.03:53
LectusI'm ending up in less HD usage and lighter system03:53
CatoptromancyI cant switch distros now03:55
Catoptromancyxubuntu has worked nearly flawlessly03:55
Catoptromancyno real reason to switch03:55
CatoptromancyI wonder if there is a way to save my desktop/menu settings03:56
CatoptromancyI have a horribly customized desktop03:56
Catoptromancywould take a little while to set it up just like this again on another system03:56
LectusI think if you have /home in another partition you can install other distro and restore your settings03:56
Lectusthat's what I've been told at least03:56
CatoptromancyI was thinking more of putting it on a flashdrive03:57
Catoptromancyand doing a clean install03:57
CatoptromancyI have 5 things on ym tiny taskbar and it more effecinet than default03:58
Lectusyes... I don't mind losing my settings, that's why I do clean install every time I change. It also prevents unexpected bugs. I usually only backup documents.03:58
Lectusbut it seems xubuntu is now perfect03:58
LectusI won't switch anymore03:58
CatoptromancyI want to try slackware on my other PC, jsut to learn linux03:58
Catoptromancydebian works much different than more basic distros03:59
LectusI'm learning Linux too. I'm trying more Linux programming (been Windows programmer for years)03:59
Lectusit's nice knowledge addition03:59
CatoptromancyMakefiles! gotta love em03:59
CatoptromancyI jsut started learning03:59
Lectusyep.. i already used GCC on windows (mingw) with makefiles04:00
CatoptromancyI converted my semi-complicated shell script to c++04:00
LectusI just couldn't compile FLTK yet (my favorite GUI library). I wonder if anyone can help me. When I do make, it says it can't find X11 libraries.04:01
Catoptromancysometimes you need to manually move .h and .so files into the right directory04:02
Catoptromancybut that error seems like a cfg file needs a path edited04:02
LectusI've found people with same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39093804:03
LectusI'm reading this thread now :D04:03
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seshomaru123hi- installed xfce4 on top of gnome , everything was cool, but after reboot i get nautilus taking over my xfce, help!04:16
LectusI don't remember well, but at the login screen you can set XFCE to default to prevent that. Anyway, here I found it was better to do Xubuntu clean install as I don't need gnome.04:19
seshomaru123Lectus, i chose xfce as default04:20
seshomaru123i wouldn't like rto reinstall just to get rid of nautilus....04:21
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LectusI don't know. I'm Linux new user04:21
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LectusI just installed Xubuntu yesteday04:21
seshomaru123Lectus, do you know where to put start-up scripts in xfce?04:24
aboyousifseshomaru123, there autostarted applications in system04:26
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Lectusyep... right at the menu you can choose autostarted applications04:28
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W8TAHcan someone PLEASE tell me how to put a terminal launcher on my right click menu - im goin crazy here06:05
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aboyousifW8TAH, do you have a menu.xml file in /etc/xfce4 ?06:12
W8TAHone sec -- lemme look06:13
W8TAHi dont have an /etc/xfce4 folder06:13
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TheSheepW8TAH: settings->menu editor  then add new item and save06:15
W8TAHTheSheep, that will put it on the applications menu, correct?06:16
aboyousifTheSheep, he wants it in the right click menu06:16
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TheSheepaboyousif: it's the same06:24
FrozenDawnhello, guys06:26
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W8TAHTheSheep, im afraid im being very dense today --- how do i add that to the right click menu by adding it to applications?06:30
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thezenmasterHi y'all!06:33
TheSheepW8TAH: the applications menu and the desktop's right click menu is the same thning06:33
thezenmasterI just installed the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers and now my res is limited to 800x600@56hz ... it should do 1024x768@7506:34
thezenmasterNvidia Aladdin TNT206:34
FrozenDawndoes anyone know how I can edit the "exit" menu on xubuntu ? (too many useless options, like hibernate ...)06:34
TheSheepFrozenDawn: settings->sessions and startup settings06:36
W8TAHis there someplace that xfce stores its menu in a text file so i can go look at it to find the right commands and stuff?06:37
FrozenDawnthanks sheep06:38
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W8TAHTheSheep, it is showing up in my applications menu, but not on the right click menu -- i placed the launcher directly above Settings in the menu editor06:45
TheSheepW8TAH: the menu is generated from files in /usr/share/applications/06:45
TheSheepW8TAH: do you use a non-standard menu for the button?06:46
W8TAHthe right click button?06:46
W8TAHits whatever xubuntu came configured with06:46
hyper_chTheSheep: how was that with "nice" again? The higher the value the more important the taks?06:50
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losseralguno me podria decir como puedo montar un hd con dos particiones ntfs06:54
TheSheephyper_ch: man nice06:54
TheSheephyper_ch: man renice06:55
TheSheep!es | losser06:55
losserlo monte al hd pero me sale solo 1 particion ntfs del hd?06:55
ubotulosser: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:55
TheSheep!ntfs | losser06:55
ubotulosser: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:55
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W8TAHTheSheep, did you receive my last info?07:22
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TheSheepW8TAH: yes, but I have no more ideas -- it works for me07:29
W8TAHwhere on your application menu do you add them?07:30
W8TAHabove or below the include07:30
sqolCan anyone shed some light for me? I'm trying to install Xubuntu from the cd, and i keep getting a 'The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) failed.' error when the installer comes to partitioning. I've only got one 80gig hd in there, and i've got rid of everything on there- i'm not dual booting or saving anything, but i just can't seem to get it to format to...07:31
sqol...ext3. cheers in advance guys!07:31
W8TAHsqol, use the alternate cd07:31
W8TAHdo the text install07:31
W8TAHive had similar issues and thats apparently the official work around07:31
sqolrighto- am i able to download and burn that from this current live cd?07:32
W8TAHno -- you will need to get it from the website07:32
W8TAHyou depending on hardware you might be able to do so under the live cd actually07:33
W8TAHdepends if your burner is supported under the live cd07:33
sqoli'll have a go, ta for your help07:33
W8TAHno problem07:33
hyper_chTheSheep: does LinuxMCE also run on Xubuntu Feisty?07:44
TheSheephyper_ch: no idea, what is that?07:46
hyper_chTheSheep: LinuxMediaCenterEdition07:47
hyper_chTheSheep: it looks quite nice to control your whole home entertainment and surveillance camera and and and and07:47
hyper_chTheSheep: www.linuxmce.com07:49
TheSheephyper_ch: no gui here atm07:52
hyper_chTheSheep: :) I'll try it with Xubuntu feisty... maybe it works07:52
hyper_chit says Ubuntu 6.1007:53
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JonexIs there a server version of xubuntu?08:17
Myrttiserver version of ubuntu comes with no gnome, xfce nor kde08:18
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JonexOh, so, should I simply start with installing that, and then add what I want?08:19
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TheSheepJonex: yes08:19
Myrttithat's one possibility, yes08:19
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aboyousifis there a package of zend optimizer in php ?08:31
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Catoptromancywelll... I managed to kill my desktop08:37
Catoptromancyterminal has full access08:38
Catoptromancywhat was the command to start up the desktop?08:38
CatoptromancyI get gtk errors08:38
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liedi had upgraded to the new release of xubuntu and now xubuntu stops at booting. BusyBoy "sh can't access tty: job control turned off" i only get a minimal shell09:07
grazielied: is that a normal boot? Have you tried a Recovery Mode boot?09:09
liedgrazie, it was a normal boot09:11
grazielied: worth trying Recovery09:11
liedbut its the same with recover mode except there is more output09:11
liedant with recovermode it hangs by "floppy0: no floppy controllers found"09:12
graziehave turned off the splash screen and quiet mode?09:12
liedgrazie, recover mode comes without splash...09:12
liedi had changed nothing with splash manually09:13
grazieyeah but for normal boot09:13
liedgrazie, no i boot normally with splash09:13
grazieyou can edit the grub menu manually on booting using e I think09:14
liedI know boot with gentoo live cd and fix the menu.lst cause it sucks that i alway have to s/root(0,0)/root(0,1)09:14
liedgrazie, yeah 'e' is right but on the next boot it is the old conf09:14
grazieyeah but the clue to your problem(s) will be in the boot messages I think09:15
liedI'm very dissapointed with this upgrade. it destroyed my MBR, and my grub conf09:15
liedgrazie, oh ok, gentoo needs a little bit than i can edit the menu.lst ...09:16
liedperhaps it is that xubuntu thinks its on hda1 but it is really on hda2 ...09:16
graziedo you know where xubuntu is installed?09:18
liedgrazie, on hda209:19
graziethen check menu.list09:19
liedhd(0,0) was wrong and in fstab i hardcoded /dev/hda as /09:25
liedehm hda2 of course09:25
graziewhat do you have on hda1?09:25
liedwhy not?09:26
liedwindows 2000 is the best windows ever :)09:26
liedah now it works09:26
grazieno....the installer should never get confused about thinking win2k is linux09:27
liedhaha, I always have this with xubuntu/ubuntu/wte09:27
grazieshould report a bug09:28
liedhm, it was no installtion in this point. I only wanted to upgrade to the newest release09:29
liedxubuntu was installed on hda1 half a year ago09:29
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liedgrazie, thx for your help. i nearly forgotten that09:37
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kmindihey, I have a problem: The problem is the same problem that is described here (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyKnownIssues/59618). Now I have this problem with the installed version (cause I changed it manually) but if I follow the howto I get until that point where to save the modified conf file but it is read only how can I make it?09:41
kmindiplease help me.09:43
kmindiwhile waiting for answers I try to do it with a live cd.09:44
W8TAHwhats the issue09:45
hyper_chkmindi: you have to edit the file as root:   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:47
kmindihyper_ch: sure, but it says there is no su/sudo command09:47
kmindi(under this initframs point described in the howto)09:48
hyper_chkmindi: have you tried with sudo anyway?09:48
hyper_chdo you still have a life cd?09:49
kmindii installed the xubuntu09:50
kmindiand I am not using the live/desktop cd anymore09:51
liedkmindi, do you boot with xubuntu install cd?09:51
liedkmindi, which live cd do you use?09:51
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kmindiI'm trying to fix it with dsl live cd.09:52
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liedkmindi, ah ok09:52
liedhave you already mounted your xubuntupartition?09:52
kmindibut i tried it before with boot parameters in grup (according to the howto)09:52
hyper_chkmindi: then mount the partition, alter the xorg.conf and it's ok09:52
kmindisry but how can i mount the xubuntu partition09:52
kmindisudo mount (and then?)09:53
maddog39oh thats easy09:53
liedkmindi, cat /proc/partitions09:53
liedthen you try and error :)09:53
maddog39mkdir -p /mnt/xubuntu09:53
maddog39then mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/xubuntu09:53
maddog39i think thats how it works09:53
kmindiplease more slowly09:53
maddog39just run those commands in terminal09:54
maddog39with sudo09:54
kmindiok wait.09:54
liedmaddog39, on dsl is no sudo afaik09:54
maddog39in dsl09:54
maddog39u can emulate sudo09:54
liedkmindi, try maddog's way if you fail highlight me ;)09:54
maddog39by using su -c "command_here"09:54
liedmaddog39, for what?09:54
liedjust use ROOT!09:54
maddog39lied, su -c "command_here" is a way to emulate sudo in DSL09:55
liedmaddog39, yeah but for what?09:55
maddog39to run commands as root09:55
maddog39under DamnSmallLinux09:55
maddog39somebody asked09:55
maddog39so i answered09:55
liedmaddog39, hm09:55
liedmaddog39, i thought you juste be "root" on a dsl live cd09:56
maddog39im actually running an alpha build of Haiku atm, im not on linux09:56
maddog39but if you install it09:56
liedkmindi, what is the output of the command id09:56
maddog39you are a standard user09:56
liedhm ok, than i'm wrong sry09:57
kmindioh man i'm so confuses09:57
kmindi-s +d09:57
kmindiwhats the default password for dsl?09:57
liedkmindi, su -c <command> don't work?10:00
liedsu -c passwd root10:00
kmindiit asks for a password10:00
liedmom i google for you10:01
kmindiim doing already but did not find anything until now10:01
liedsudo passwd10:01
lieddid this ask for a pw?10:02
liedIf you need to run a command as root, you simply type sudo [command] . If you want to stay root for as long as the shell session is open, type sudo su. The root password is unknown to the user, but if you need to login as root, type sudo passwd, supply a new one for root, and then you can use the command su root.10:04
kmindii thougt sudo wont work but it seems to work10:04
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fabianhi :)10:05
liedhi fabian10:05
kmindiso im working with the sudo command and that works10:08
kmindii mountet the hda1 partition10:08
kmindiand now im browsing for the file10:08
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kmindiI think I made it.10:12
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kmindiTrying reboot10:12
fabiankmindi: you're great10:12
kmindisure ^^.10:13
kmindibut only with the help of others. ;)10:13
kmindiOh I thik it works10:13
fabiangratulations, bye10:13
fabiankmindi: see you :)10:13
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kmindi|ibm-t20yes it works as you can see10:15
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kmindi|ibm-t20thanks for your help guys10:17
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jjessegood afternoon, if i need to reconfigure my display, what is the easiest way to do that?  i'm pretty much an newbie to xubuntu10:37
vidd_laptopquestion...can you do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to go from edgy to fiesty?10:38
vidd_laptopooppss...helps if i spell it right!10:39
TheSheepjjesse: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:39
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jjessethanks TheSheep10:42
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kmindi|ibm-t20well... gn8 boys (and maybe girls (hopefully))10:43
vidd_laptop!seen maxamillion10:43
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superkirbyartistHi everyone.10:53
superkirbyartistI'm looking for an Ogg Theora player that works well on a Pentium MMX laptop.10:53
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TheSheepsuperkirbyartist: try vlc10:56
TheSheepsuperkirbyartist: or mplayer10:57
TheSheep(actually, I think they use the same code for ogg)10:57
vidd_laptopanyone have drivers for the bcm4306 chipset?11:03
vidd_laptopthe windows drivers that is11:03
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Sergohello all11:05
Sergowhat graphic interface does xubuntu use, gtk+ ?11:05
cliebowvidd_laptop, google for it...fwcutter  and bcm43xx11:05
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SergoX widget toolkit11:05
TheSheepSergo: gtk+211:06
Sergo=] 11:06
vidd_laptopcliebow, did...and after looking though about 100 of the 1.8 MILLION pages...still no download link11:06
Sergobut kubuntu11:06
Sergoalso gtk+2 /11:06
TheSheepSergo: kubuntu uses kde and qt11:06
TheSheepSergo: ubuntu uses gtk+2 and gnome11:07
TheSheepgnomeui actually extends gtk11:07
vidd_laptopcliebow, i get lots of info pages and instructions, but NO downloads11:08
TheSheepvidd_laptop: google for the exact file name11:09
TheSheepvidd_laptop: or even use the extension: feature of google11:09
cliebowsudo apat-cache search  fwcutter11:09
Sergowhat software are desigen for xubuntu11:10
vidd_laptopthe fwcutter hasnt worked since mid december11:10
Sergothat are gtk+ and gnome?11:10
Sergo=] 11:10
cliebowyeah hmm. i ama using it inppc11:10
TheSheepSergo: I think there was a nice list of good and lightweight gtk applications on the xfce wiki11:11
vidd_laptopi need the stuff for ndiswrapper11:12
Sergook, thanks11:13
vidd_laptopi have a 4306 card...and it dont wanna work with the linux drivers11:13
TheSheepSergo: found it: http://wiki.xfce.org/recommendedapps11:15
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joselcehnum...hullo there,can anyone helpmeout with an xubuntu install?11:40
TheSheep!ask | joselcehn11:41
ubotujoselcehn: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:41
joselcehnright now i'm at the end of this 8-step quick setup once xubuntu has booted and you choose install on the desktop11:42
joselcehnwhen it tries toformat the HDD it tellsme : The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) failed.11:42
joselcehnbtw. thx for your help :)11:43
TheSheepjoselcehn: you already have the partitions created?11:43
TheSheepjoselcehn: I remember there was a bug in the live cd11:43
joselcehnyep. winxp was on the HDD,trying to get rid of it.:)11:44
TheSheepjoselcehn: Bug #4613511:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 46135 in ubiquity "Failed to create file system (with 'erase entire disk')" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4613511:44
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joselcehnok.i'm looking at it right now11:45
TheSheepjoselcehn: try unmounting that partition first11:45
joselcehnok.im a terminal,using umount? (i'm still a n00b)11:47
TheSheepjoselcehn: you can just right-click on the disk on your desktop and select 'unmount'11:48
TheSheepjoselcehn: should work11:48
TheSheepjoselcehn: the windows disk11:48
joselcehnok....i'm on it11:49
TheSheepbtw, anybody seen the new launchpad in Opera? it's rather embarrasing...11:49
crimsunthey'd probably love to hear about it in #launchpad11:50
TheSheepcrimsun: you think so? :)11:51
vidd_laptopthe next version is gutsy? I hope that isnt the final name11:52
PumpernickelIt is.11:53
Maybellinethat's what I thought about feisty11:53
TheSheepmight have been worse :)11:53
vidd_laptopi guess11:53
vidd_laptopwhat kind of stuff they got planned?11:54
joselcehnhello again. unmounting the windoze partition didn't work same error message as before :( it stopped at 5%11:54
JonexCan I turn off the screen from the console?11:55
JonexLike a screen saver.11:55
joselcehnit somehow mounted the windoze partition again( iguess it mus a some point to format it)11:55
Jonex(its a laptop)11:55
MaybellineJonex: man xset11:55
TheSheepJonex: it has a build-in screensaver -- it will blank after a while of inactivity11:56
joselcehn --11:56
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JonexTheSheep: But not turn off the screen?11:56
JonexOh, found out I could simply close the computer :)11:58
MaybellineJonex: "xset dpms force off" does the trick from the console11:58
Jonexhow do i turn it back?11:59
TheSheepjoselcehn: there are also Bug #107259 and Bug #9990812:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10725912:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 99908 in ubiquity "The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed." [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9990812:00
MaybellineJonex: hit the space bar -- works for me12:00
Maybellineubotu: can he do a killall on thunar, then umount, then install?12:01
TheSheepjoselcehn: the last one has a fix, I think12:01
TheSheep!bot | Maybelline12:01
ubotuMaybelline: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:01
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!12:02
TheSheepbon APTetite12:02
MaybellineDo I look dumb, or what?12:02
TheSheepMaybelline: sorry, just thought you're new here12:03
MaybellineTheSheep: you'd be correct... new to IRC, not to Xubuntu, tho'12:03
MaybellineI can take the ridicule, though... bring it.12:04
TheSheepMaybelline: don't be angry, just wanted to explain it somehow, sorry12:04
joselcehn TheSheep: the last one?- you mean release?12:04
MaybellineTheSheep: not angry at all... I've got to learn!12:04
TheSheepjoselcehn: the last bug I psated12:05
TheSheepjoselcehn: the Bug #9990812:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 99908 in ubiquity "The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed." [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9990812:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bug1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
vidd_laptop!bug 112:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112:05
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents12:05
TheSheepjoselcehn: alternatively, you might try to open a directory, go to the preferences, last tab and disable the 'volume manager' -- I think this is the part that mounts the partition12:07
Maybelline!bug 107259 has a fix, too12:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10725912:07
MaybellineBoot the desktop CD.12:07
Maybelline  Go to Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager.12:07
Maybelline  Select "File Manager".12:07
Maybelline  Switch to the "Advanced" tab.12:07
Maybelline  Click on the "Configure" link ("Configure the management of removable drives and media ...").12:07
Maybelline  Uncheck "Mount removable drives when hot-plugged" and "Mount removable media when inserted".12:07
Maybelline  Close all the windows just opened, and start the installer.12:07
joselcehnMaybelline: ok. i 'm trying, thy a lot12:10
joselcehnMaybelline: Grrbll, installer hangs, is there a place i can kill it?12:12
Maybellinejoselcehn: Don't know how safe it is, but you can killall ubiquity, I would think.  Are you sure it's hung, though?12:13
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joselcehnmaybelline: yep. i tried to quit it 10 min. ago, and it asks me if i'm really sure about it. but none of th ebuttons respond...so i'll just kill it and restart .12:14
joselcehnmaybelline: ok. i killed it :) should i still unmount the winxp partition?12:18
Maybellinejoselcehn: yeah, go through the steps I outlined above, and make sure your HDD isn't mounted (cat /etc/mtab)12:20
Maybellinejoselcehn: working?12:24
joselcehnHDD is scratching it seems to work! yay! thanks everyone!12:24
Maybellinejoselcehn: you bet12:25

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