[12:36] <aboyousif> is it normal to find more thank 1 apache2 task in xfce-taskmanager ?
[12:37] <Jester45> yes
[12:37] <aboyousif> Jester45, even if it is 10 ?
[12:37] <Jester45> well it depends on your apache config
[12:38] <Jester45> each new client starts a new process
[12:38] <Jester45> but at startup it have by defualt 5 i think
[12:38] <aboyousif> Jester45, aha ..got it .. thanks
[12:39] <Jester45> np
[12:53] <Artokal> Is there a place on the Xubuntu website where I can find a list of all the programs that come with the "xubuntu-desktop" package?
[01:09] <Jester45> umm
[01:09] <Jester45> !xubuntu-desktop
[01:09] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[01:10] <Jester45> !info xubuntu-desktop
[01:10] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.29 (feisty), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[01:10] <Jester45> nope not that i know of
[01:12] <Artokal> Hmm
[01:12] <Artokal> Guess I'll just put it on my empty server install and find out :)
[01:14] <Jester45> Artokal: you dont have to install
[01:14] <Jester45> if you start to install it will tell you want you need to get
[01:14] <BFTD> yo all
[01:15] <BFTD> !sudoku
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoku - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <Jester45> the "extra" packages are what it depends on
[01:15] <BFTD> !info sudoku
[01:15] <ubotu> sudoku: console based sudoku. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 116 kB
[01:15] <Jester45> !info sudoku
[01:16] <BFTD> what a good sudoku?
[01:16] <Jester45> flash ones?
[01:17] <Artokal> Nah, I wanted to get xubuntu anyways, but I just dident know what programs it came with from an install (the xubuntu-desktop package should be the same as installing it from the cd? right?)
[01:17] <BFTD> any
[01:17] <Jester45> yea
[01:17] <Jester45> i would get a flash ones
[01:18] <Jester45> i my self dont like the game
[01:19] <BFTD> oh
[01:19] <BFTD> not a math person eh?
[01:19] <Jester45> im fine with math
[01:20] <BFTD> they should add a sourceforge repo
[01:20] <Jester45> but i would rather play a game
[01:20] <BFTD> that would be awesome
[01:20] <BFTD> which game>?
[01:20] <Jester45> many depends on what im one and what i have to play
[01:21] <Jester45> as school i cant install anything so i cant play good games
[01:21] <BFTD> pity
[01:21] <BFTD> Kbounce!!
[01:22] <Jester45> and depending on the class room i can ftp a game or play with photoshop
[01:23] <BFTD> ah
[01:24] <Artokal> BFTD: A sourceforge repo would be pretty sweet
[01:25] <Jester45> i dont see how it would work
[01:26] <Jester45> unless you had someone to test all the projects
[01:26] <Jester45> and have all the projects state dependacies
[01:27] <Artokal> Hmm, it would be a big hassle, but just imagine how awsome it would be it it all magicaly worked :P
[01:27] <BFTD> yeah it would be a lot of work, you would have to notify the maintainers of the projects and ask them to pitch in
[01:27] <Jester45> i mean
[01:28] <Jester45> someone could make it a third party repo with a script that excules mac/windows sources
[01:28] <Jester45> and give you no promisses that it would work
[01:29] <Jester45> and the mantanier could get a few people to try each one or some people to make a list of depenacies
[01:29] <Jester45> it would never be able to have a supported thing
[01:29] <Jester45> it would be a repo that you add from guides to get s special version of somthing
[01:29] <Jester45> one of those
[01:33] <BFTD> yeah
[01:34] <BFTD> which is fine
[01:37] <Jester45> can wget download anything in a directory?
[01:37] <Jester45> like download the directory
[01:44] <BFTD> Jester45 I think so
[02:03] <BFTD> quite
[02:04] <Jester45> normaly is
[02:05] <aboyousif> Jester45, did you able to get the directory contents with wget ?
[02:05] <Jester45> nope
[02:06] <aboyousif> Jester45, i tried before more than once and i fail too .. if the files are series you can do a sript to write their urls to a file and then run wget -i filename
[02:06] <Lectus> Hello! I download the ISO, but when I burned to the CD it was with some problem on the CD, so I couldn't start it. Now I installed xubuntu using apt-get xubuntu-desktop. I'm running it, ok. But the menus are now very messed up. Is there a way to fix that?
[02:06] <Jester45> aboyousif: its a few hundred files
[02:07] <Jester45> Lectus: remove all the gnome or kde stuff
[02:08] <Lectus> how?
[02:08] <Jester45> thats more tricky
[02:08] <Jester45> you have to know thatpackages are messing the menu
[02:09] <Jester45> if you find a package where you dont want and dont need the package, remove it
[02:09] <Jester45> but i have to go
[02:10] <Lectus> I think I'm going to download the ISO again. I liked xubuntu, but I don't know why I ran the CD check at boot time it was broke. Is there a way to prevent that the next time I burn it? Is there a md5 or something?
[02:11] <Pumpernickel> There is, and it should be available from the same download page.
[02:13] <Lectus> Another thing: the windows and menus are not completely in my native language. it's mixed with english
[02:13] <T`> anyeone herae able to use WPA on ubuntu? never works for me
[02:13] <Lectus> Probably because gnome is installed too?
[02:22] <leskov_oleg> /LIST
[02:25] <Lectus> So, I was using Ubuntu with Gnome... now I installed xubuntu-desktop and liked it more. Can I uninstall Gnome to have a instalation as if I just installed xubuntu?
[02:27] <Pumpernickel> apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && apt-get autoremove should take out most of it.
[02:31] <sl00> Where can I find a list of packages that will be installed by default if I install Xutunbu?
[02:34] <cjae> I apologize on behalf of my dumb friend posting up rubbish and for me not locking the screen or smacking him with a stick which I still might do
[02:36] <cjae> sorry wrong channel
[02:38] <cjae> how do make opticals auto umount
[02:40] <BFTD> /etc/fstab
[03:27] <BFTD> ups hates me
[03:36] <BFTD> !!!!!!
[03:36] <BFTD> ITS HERE!!!!
[04:20] <vidd_laptop> anyone get the bcm43xx driver to work in fiesty?
[04:29] <neozen> greetings all
[04:29] <vidd_laptop> *wave* neozen
[04:30] <neozen> hey there
[04:31] <vidd_laptop> know anyone who got a bcm43xx wireless to work?
[04:31] <neozen> lol
[04:31] <neozen> yeah
[04:31] <neozen> ndiswrapper
[04:32] <neozen> is apparently the one true way
[04:32] <neozen> lol
[04:32] <vidd_laptop> without ndiswrapper
[04:32] <neozen> nope
[04:32] <vidd_laptop> with the native driver?
[04:32] <neozen> nope
[04:32] <neozen> though my experience is still limited
[04:33] <neozen> I've only set up...... about 5 of that series of card
[04:33] <neozen> ...I've just used ndiswrapper because it worked
[04:33] <neozen> ...didn't really have time (or desire since they weren't my cards) to mess around w/ doing it the Right way
[04:33] <neozen> lol
[04:34] <vidd_laptop> with that kind of thinking...i might as well use windows
[04:34] <neozen> ...........
[04:34] <neozen> your choice I suppose
[04:35] <vidd_laptop> my choice is to get this card to work with the native driver in linux
[04:35] <neozen> ok
[04:35] <neozen> you have fun with that
[04:35] <neozen> ...make it a quest
[04:35] <vidd_laptop> or not to use it at all
[04:35] <neozen> ...I have a friend that went that route
[04:36] <neozen> bought an atheros-based card... and it just worked
[04:38] <vidd_laptop> the OTHER laptop needs a pcmcia card (as yet unpurchased)
[04:38] <neozen> lol
[04:38] <neozen> ...this is why there can be only one
[04:38] <neozen> my old one lives in the closet as a paper weight...
[04:38] <neozen> ....it deserves it
[04:39] <vidd_laptop> does it have a pcmcia card that is NOT bcm43xx?
[04:39] <neozen> had power issues... then went kersplat in the middle of saving a term paper
[04:39] <vidd_laptop> hehe ill pay shipping!
[04:39] <neozen> ....I used a prism2_usb in that thing
[04:39] <neozen> namely the ma111v1
[04:39] <neozen> not exactly out of box... but something resembling it
[04:40] <neozen> out of box working that is
[04:40] <vidd_laptop> i figured that was what ya meant
[04:57] <neozen> well... time to watch firefly
[04:57] <neozen> its been too long
[05:05] <vidd_laptop> !paste
[05:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:07] <BFTD> how do I convert whatever-video-format to .avi?
[05:14] <VxJasonxV> mplayer / mencode
[05:14] <VxJasonxV> +r
[05:24] <BFTD> someone write a frontend for ffmpeg encoding
[05:27] <Pumpernickel> BFTD: http://en.linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_Convert_video_files
[05:47] <cellofellow> is there some command that will just log out xfce4? Something scriptable.
[05:56] <BFTD> onmy player it has a .trash folder, how do I remove that?
[05:56] <BFTD> I got it
[06:00] <BFTD> !raw
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <FrozenDawn> hello there
[06:12] <BFTD> hi
[06:13] <FrozenDawn> good evening.
[06:13] <FrozenDawn> I've just installed an xubuntu
[06:13] <FrozenDawn> and now I am seeking the configs to cups
[06:14] <FrozenDawn> do you happen to know where they are ?
[06:16] <FrozenDawn> (is cups up by default ?)
[06:27] <VxJasonxV> FrozenDawn, start the process if you haven't already ( sudo /etc/init.d/cups start ) and then open a web browser to http://localhost:631
[06:27] <VxJasonxV> there's probably a better way to do it, but I don't remember what it is :)
[06:37] <FrozenDawn> thank you very much
[06:38] <FrozenDawn> i got no /etc/init.d/cups. just cupsys. It should work, right ?
[06:39] <VxJasonxV> mmm
[06:39] <VxJasonxV> yeah, should
[06:40] <FrozenDawn> do you know if there is a difference ?
[06:59] <VxJasonxV> Nope
[07:19] <FrozenDawn> well, just printed my first page on the new system
[07:19] <FrozenDawn> seams I am ready to go
[07:19] <FrozenDawn> thanks
[07:19] <FrozenDawn> (and I am off now, so, goodbye !)
[07:27] <trippppy> im trying to automate a bunch of commands but i don't know where to start. even on google.
[07:49] <Pumpernickel> Which commands?
[09:26] <Merchelo> where would i find info about a unix machine, as in specs and OS and the like?
[09:36] <TheSheep> Merchelo: unix machine?
[09:37] <Merchelo> well one is some sort of sparc server, the other is a dell server, and a normal pc running xubuntu
[09:38] <TheSheep> Merchelo: 'uname -a' should tell you about the system (at least about the kernel)
[09:38] <TheSheep> Merchelo: if there is /proc, you can check /proc/cpuinfo and /proc/meminfo
[09:39] <Merchelo> cool thanks
[09:39] <TheSheep> Merchelo: on the xubuntu, you can use 'lspci' to list connected devices
[09:39] <Myrtti> lsusb too
[09:39] <TheSheep> Merchelo: I think there was also some program that collects all that info, lshw or something
[09:40] <TheSheep> !info lshw
[09:40] <ubotu> lshw: information about hardware configuration. In component main, is standard. Version 02.08.01-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 284 kB, installed size 712 kB
[09:41] <Merchelo> yeah, gottit thanks, just wondering the number of cpu's on each machine
[09:48] <guigz> hello,is there ppc xubuntu port?
[09:48] <guigz> I'd like to revive anot so old mac
[09:48] <Merchelo> !ppc | guigz
[09:48] <ubotu> guigz: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[09:49] <guigz> why?
[09:49] <Merchelo> why up to edgy ?
[11:43] <b52new> hey, i installed xubuntu-desktop after i installed the normal ubuntu
[11:43] <b52new> then i purged ubuntu-desktop but gnome is still there
[11:44] <b52new> can someone help me
[11:52] <grazie> b52new: removing ubuntu by removing ubuntu-desktop does not work. There's a good link somewhere...lemme find it for you. A fresh install is best though
[11:52] <b52new> but now i still installed ubuntu normal :/
[11:55] <grazie> b52new: I don't follow
[01:17] <genshu> hi!
[01:17] <Jester45> hi
[01:17] <genshu> i'm running a mongrel server for my RoR apps and now I want to show it to public, i can access the server via localhost:3000 - but by just entering my ip:3000 it doesnt work
[01:18] <genshu> how can i route it through?
[01:18] <Myrtti> mmmm
[01:18] <Myrtti> how does this relate to xfce?
[01:18] <genshu> xfce??
[01:18] <Jester45> are you sure thats your ip some isp use proxies that cover the real ip
[01:18] <Myrtti> just a thought...
[01:19] <genshu> hm, i should get my ip by ifconfig, right?
[01:19] <genshu> but well this is my local ip then
[01:19] <Jester45> genshu: thats right
[01:20] <genshu> the local works, problem: only for me
[01:20] <genshu> i want to show the page a friend who's not in my local net
[01:21] <genshu> any ideas?
[01:21] <genshu> i'm quite stupid on that topic
[01:22] <Jester45> what kind of sever?
[01:23] <genshu> mongrel
[01:23] <genshu> ruby server
[01:23] <Jester45> i never used it
[01:23] <genshu> i have an idea! isn't there a program, that routes the ip?
[01:23] <genshu> i forgot it's name
[01:24] <genshu> you start it, it checks your local ip and routes it via a service to an xy.ip2go.com or somewhat like this
[01:24] <Jester45> maybe you have to get DynDns going
[01:24] <genshu> yes that was the name!! thank you :)
[01:24] <Jester45> o
[01:25] <Jester45> and if you are using apt you can after setting up the service install ddclient to autoupdate
[01:27] <genshu> perfect!
[01:27] <genshu> thank you a lot
[02:24] <b52new> whats the name of the network manager of xubuntu?
[02:26] <aboyousif> !netwok-manager | b52new
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netwok-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <aboyousif> !network-manager | b52new
[02:26] <ubotu> b52new: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[02:29] <b52new> aboyousif when i make sudo aptitude install networkmanager he tells it doesnt exist
[02:30] <aboyousif> b52new, it is network-manager not networkmanager
[02:30] <aboyousif> b52new, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=network-manager&searchon=names&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all
[02:41] <b52new> aboyousif network-manager is ot installed
[02:41] <b52new> so which package is the std network manager on xubuntu?=
[02:45] <aboyousif> b52new, run sudo network-admin
[02:45] <aboyousif> brb
[03:11] <Lectus> Hello
[03:11] <Lectus> I just installed Xubuntu
[03:11] <Lectus> What package do I need to play mp3 files?
[03:21] <Catoptromancy> lec
[03:21] <Catoptromancy> i lost it
[03:23] <Catoptromancy> Lectus, would you mind having codecs for nearly every media format?
[03:23] <Catoptromancy> I have a long command that installs everything
[03:25] <Lectus> ok
[03:25] <Lectus> what command?
[03:25] <Pumpernickel> Lectus: libxine-extracodecs, for Edgy and earlier, or libxine1-ffmpeg for Feisty.
[03:25] <Catoptromancy> well pastebin is frozen
[03:25] <Pumpernickel> That will work with xfmedia or any other xine-based media player.
[03:26] <Catoptromancy> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[03:26] <Catoptromancy> looks like it install gxine too
[03:27] <Lectus> ok... thanks
[03:27] <Lectus> I'll try
[03:27] <Catoptromancy> I use kaffeine and it works nearly perfect
[03:27] <Catoptromancy> some odd video format is kinda blurry
[03:28] <Lectus> Also, I've noted that Xubuntu comes only with Abiword. I want also to have a presentations program (Powerpoint-like), so I should install OpenOffice, right? Or are there any lighter solution?
[03:28] <Catoptromancy> openoffice is great
[03:28] <Catoptromancy> abiword has mem leaks
[03:29] <Catoptromancy> sometimes I open a txt and close it
[03:29] <Catoptromancy> and my cpu flat lines red
[03:29] <Catoptromancy> and I need to terminate abiword
[03:29] <Catoptromancy> I jsut erased it, openoffice and mousepad all i use
[03:29] <Catoptromancy> dunno what happen to abiword
[03:30] <Catoptromancy> Lectus, if your ubuntu didnt come with openoffice
[03:30] <Catoptromancy> you probably dont have feisty
[03:30] <Catoptromancy> my feisty came with it
[03:32] <Lectus> Nope... I have feisty
[03:32] <Catoptromancy> hmmm
[03:32] <Lectus> but I installed only Xubuntu
[03:32] <pleia2> I am not sure xubuntu has openoffice
[03:32] <pleia2> Lectus: just install open office, yes
[03:32] <Lectus> I was using Ubuntu, and then I decided to do a clean install of Xubuntu as I liked it more
[03:32] <Catoptromancy> I have Alt CD of Xubuntu and it came with openoffice word processor
[03:32] <pleia2> unfortunately I don't believe there is a lighter solution :(
[03:33] <Catoptromancy> openoffice is pretty light compared to what it does
[03:33] <Lectus> Yes, ubuntu had openoffice and it was great. I'll unsintall Abiword and install OpenOffice which is more complete
[03:35] <Lectus> I'm using the aqua theme for Xubuntu, pretty beautiful and light :D
[03:35] <Lectus> better linux distro I installed so far
[03:35] <Lectus> and I've tried quite others
[03:35] <Catoptromancy> IU would put xfce on any distro
[03:36] <Lectus> yes... but I like ubuntu base
[03:36] <Lectus> and the repository
[03:36] <Catoptromancy> Ive been experimenting with slackware
[03:36] <Catoptromancy> but I dont think ill ever get rid of xubuntu
[03:36] <Catoptromancy> on my main PC
[03:37] <Catoptromancy> debian with xfce seems pretty sweet too
[03:38] <Lectus> I like the easy of installation and use of (K / X)ubuntu
[03:38] <aboyousif> any one tried fluxubuntu ?
[03:39] <Catoptromancy> I do have fluxbox
[03:39] <Catoptromancy> but i dont know command to switch to it
[03:39] <Catoptromancy> heh
[03:44] <Lectus> I've first tried Kubuntu which looked to run faster than Ubuntu on the live cd, then I installed Ubuntu more polished. Then I installed xubuntu-desktop and liked XFCE a lot. So, I decided to have a clean install of Xubuntu, and download the ISO and installed. I'm now running Xubuntu with dual boot to WinXP. But, I'm very impressed. Xubuntu makes my desktop lighter and good looking.
[03:45] <Lectus> I wonder why they don't ship Xubuntu CDs as they do with Ubuntu and Kubuntu.. Xubuntu is the best one I've tried.
[03:50] <Catoptromancy> xfce is pretty small, you can just download it by itself
[03:50] <Catoptromancy> and install it on any other ubuntu
[03:51] <Catoptromancy> when you start it up, it should look llike xubuntu
[03:52] <Lectus> I don't need Gnome
[03:52] <Lectus> so I installed only xubuntu
[03:52] <Lectus> ;D
[03:52] <Catoptromancy> ive see nscreen shots
[03:52] <Catoptromancy> I dont really like how it looks
[03:52] <Catoptromancy> xfce is great
[03:53] <Lectus> When I installed xubundu-desktop from Ubuntu the menus looked messed up. So, I've decided to go with only xubuntu clean install and add the software I want.
[03:53] <Lectus> I'm ending up in less HD usage and lighter system
[03:54] <Catoptromancy> hehe
[03:55] <Catoptromancy> I cant switch distros now
[03:55] <Catoptromancy> xubuntu has worked nearly flawlessly
[03:55] <Catoptromancy> no real reason to switch
[03:56] <Catoptromancy> I wonder if there is a way to save my desktop/menu settings
[03:56] <Catoptromancy> I have a horribly customized desktop
[03:56] <Catoptromancy> would take a little while to set it up just like this again on another system
[03:56] <Lectus> I think if you have /home in another partition you can install other distro and restore your settings
[03:56] <Lectus> that's what I've been told at least
[03:57] <Catoptromancy> hmm
[03:57] <Catoptromancy> I was thinking more of putting it on a flashdrive
[03:57] <Catoptromancy> and doing a clean install
[03:58] <Catoptromancy> I have 5 things on ym tiny taskbar and it more effecinet than default
[03:58] <Lectus> yes... I don't mind losing my settings, that's why I do clean install every time I change. It also prevents unexpected bugs. I usually only backup documents.
[03:58] <Lectus> but it seems xubuntu is now perfect
[03:58] <Lectus> I won't switch anymore
[03:58] <Catoptromancy> I want to try slackware on my other PC, jsut to learn linux
[03:59] <Catoptromancy> debian works much different than more basic distros
[03:59] <Lectus> I'm learning Linux too. I'm trying more Linux programming (been Windows programmer for years)
[03:59] <Lectus> it's nice knowledge addition
[03:59] <Catoptromancy> Makefiles! gotta love em
[03:59] <Catoptromancy> I jsut started learning
[04:00] <Lectus> yep.. i already used GCC on windows (mingw) with makefiles
[04:00] <Catoptromancy> I converted my semi-complicated shell script to c++
[04:01] <Lectus> I just couldn't compile FLTK yet (my favorite GUI library). I wonder if anyone can help me. When I do make, it says it can't find X11 libraries.
[04:02] <Catoptromancy> sometimes you need to manually move .h and .so files into the right directory
[04:02] <Catoptromancy> but that error seems like a cfg file needs a path edited
[04:03] <Lectus> I've found people with same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=390938
[04:03] <Lectus> I'm reading this thread now :D
[04:16] <seshomaru123> hi- installed xfce4 on top of gnome , everything was cool, but after reboot i get nautilus taking over my xfce, help!
[04:19] <Lectus> I don't remember well, but at the login screen you can set XFCE to default to prevent that. Anyway, here I found it was better to do Xubuntu clean install as I don't need gnome.
[04:20] <seshomaru123> Lectus, i chose xfce as default
[04:21] <seshomaru123> i wouldn't like rto reinstall just to get rid of nautilus....
[04:21] <Lectus> I don't know. I'm Linux new user
[04:21] <Lectus> I just installed Xubuntu yesteday
[04:21] <Lectus> yesterday*
[04:23] <seshomaru123> oh....
[04:24] <seshomaru123> Lectus, do you know where to put start-up scripts in xfce?
[04:25] <Lectus> nope
[04:26] <aboyousif> seshomaru123, there autostarted applications in system
[04:28] <Lectus> yep... right at the menu you can choose autostarted applications
[06:05] <W8TAH> can someone PLEASE tell me how to put a terminal launcher on my right click menu - im goin crazy here
[06:12] <aboyousif> W8TAH, do you have a menu.xml file in /etc/xfce4 ?
[06:13] <W8TAH> one sec -- lemme look
[06:13] <W8TAH> i dont have an /etc/xfce4 folder
[06:15] <TheSheep> W8TAH: settings->menu editor  then add new item and save
[06:15] <W8TAH> ok
[06:15] <W8TAH> thanks
[06:16] <neozen> meep
[06:16] <W8TAH> TheSheep, that will put it on the applications menu, correct?
[06:16] <aboyousif> TheSheep, he wants it in the right click menu
[06:24] <TheSheep> aboyousif: it's the same
[06:26] <FrozenDawn> hello, guys
[06:30] <W8TAH> TheSheep, im afraid im being very dense today --- how do i add that to the right click menu by adding it to applications?
[06:33] <thezenmaster> Hi y'all!
[06:33] <TheSheep> W8TAH: the applications menu and the desktop's right click menu is the same thning
[06:33] <W8TAH> ok
[06:34] <thezenmaster> I just installed the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers and now my res is limited to 800x600@56hz ... it should do 1024x768@75
[06:34] <thezenmaster> Nvidia Aladdin TNT2
[06:34] <FrozenDawn> does anyone know how I can edit the "exit" menu on xubuntu ? (too many useless options, like hibernate ...)
[06:36] <TheSheep> FrozenDawn: settings->sessions and startup settings
[06:37] <W8TAH> is there someplace that xfce stores its menu in a text file so i can go look at it to find the right commands and stuff?
[06:38] <FrozenDawn> thanks sheep
[06:45] <W8TAH> TheSheep, it is showing up in my applications menu, but not on the right click menu -- i placed the launcher directly above Settings in the menu editor
[06:45] <TheSheep> W8TAH: the menu is generated from files in /usr/share/applications/
[06:46] <W8TAH> ok
[06:46] <TheSheep> W8TAH: do you use a non-standard menu for the button?
[06:46] <W8TAH> the right click button?
[06:46] <W8TAH> no
[06:46] <W8TAH> its whatever xubuntu came configured with
[06:50] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: how was that with "nice" again? The higher the value the more important the taks?
[06:54] <losser> hola
[06:54] <losser> alguno me podria decir como puedo montar un hd con dos particiones ntfs
[06:54] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: man nice
[06:55] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: man renice
[06:55] <TheSheep> !es | losser
[06:55] <losser> lo monte al hd pero me sale solo 1 particion ntfs del hd?
[06:55] <ubotu> losser: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:55] <TheSheep> !ntfs | losser
[06:55] <ubotu> losser: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:55] <losser> oks
[06:55] <losser> thanks
[07:22] <W8TAH> TheSheep, did you receive my last info?
[07:29] <TheSheep> W8TAH: yes, but I have no more ideas -- it works for me
[07:30] <W8TAH> where on your application menu do you add them?
[07:30] <W8TAH> above or below the include
[07:31] <sqol> Can anyone shed some light for me? I'm trying to install Xubuntu from the cd, and i keep getting a 'The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) failed.' error when the installer comes to partitioning. I've only got one 80gig hd in there, and i've got rid of everything on there- i'm not dual booting or saving anything, but i just can't seem to get it to format to...
[07:31] <sqol> ...ext3. cheers in advance guys!
[07:31] <W8TAH> sqol, use the alternate cd
[07:31] <W8TAH> do the text install
[07:31] <W8TAH> ive had similar issues and thats apparently the official work around
[07:32] <sqol> righto- am i able to download and burn that from this current live cd?
[07:32] <W8TAH> no -- you will need to get it from the website
[07:33] <W8TAH> you depending on hardware you might be able to do so under the live cd actually
[07:33] <W8TAH> depends if your burner is supported under the live cd
[07:33] <sqol> i'll have a go, ta for your help
[07:33] <W8TAH> no problem
[07:44] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: does LinuxMCE also run on Xubuntu Feisty?
[07:46] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: no idea, what is that?
[07:47] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: LinuxMediaCenterEdition
[07:47] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: it looks quite nice to control your whole home entertainment and surveillance camera and and and and
[07:49] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: www.linuxmce.com
[07:52] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: no gui here atm
[07:52] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: :) I'll try it with Xubuntu feisty... maybe it works
[07:53] <hyper_ch> it says Ubuntu 6.10
[08:17] <Jonex> Is there a server version of xubuntu?
[08:18] <Myrtti> um
[08:18] <Myrtti> server version of ubuntu comes with no gnome, xfce nor kde
[08:19] <Jonex> Oh, so, should I simply start with installing that, and then add what I want?
[08:19] <TheSheep> Jonex: yes
[08:19] <Myrtti> that's one possibility, yes
[08:31] <aboyousif> is there a package of zend optimizer in php ?
[08:37] <Catoptromancy> welll... I managed to kill my desktop
[08:38] <Catoptromancy> terminal has full access
[08:38] <Catoptromancy> what was the command to start up the desktop?
[08:38] <Catoptromancy> I get gtk errors
[09:06] <lied> hi
[09:07] <lied> i had upgraded to the new release of xubuntu and now xubuntu stops at booting. BusyBoy "sh can't access tty: job control turned off" i only get a minimal shell
[09:09] <grazie> lied: is that a normal boot? Have you tried a Recovery Mode boot?
[09:11] <lied> grazie, it was a normal boot
[09:11] <grazie> lied: worth trying Recovery
[09:11] <lied> but its the same with recover mode except there is more output
[09:11] <grazie> k
[09:12] <lied> ant with recovermode it hangs by "floppy0: no floppy controllers found"
[09:12] <lied> s/ant/and/
[09:12] <grazie> have turned off the splash screen and quiet mode?
[09:12] <lied> grazie, recover mode comes without splash...
[09:13] <lied> i had changed nothing with splash manually
[09:13] <grazie> yeah but for normal boot
[09:13] <lied> grazie, no i boot normally with splash
[09:14] <grazie> you can edit the grub menu manually on booting using e I think
[09:14] <lied> I know boot with gentoo live cd and fix the menu.lst cause it sucks that i alway have to s/root(0,0)/root(0,1)
[09:14] <lied> grazie, yeah 'e' is right but on the next boot it is the old conf
[09:15] <grazie> yeah but the clue to your problem(s) will be in the boot messages I think
[09:15] <lied> I'm very dissapointed with this upgrade. it destroyed my MBR, and my grub conf
[09:16] <lied> grazie, oh ok, gentoo needs a little bit than i can edit the menu.lst ...
[09:16] <lied> perhaps it is that xubuntu thinks its on hda1 but it is really on hda2 ...
[09:18] <grazie> do you know where xubuntu is installed?
[09:19] <lied> grazie, on hda2
[09:19] <grazie> then check menu.list
[09:24] <lied> done;
[09:25] <lied> hd(0,0) was wrong and in fstab i hardcoded /dev/hda as /
[09:25] <lied> ehm hda2 of course
[09:25] <grazie> what do you have on hda1?
[09:26] <lied> win2k
[09:26] <grazie> ??!!
[09:26] <lied> why not?
[09:26] <lied> windows 2000 is the best windows ever :)
[09:26] <lied> ah now it works
[09:27] <grazie> no....the installer should never get confused about thinking win2k is linux
[09:27] <lied> haha, I always have this with xubuntu/ubuntu/wte
[09:28] <grazie> should report a bug
[09:29] <lied> hm, it was no installtion in this point. I only wanted to upgrade to the newest release
[09:29] <lied> xubuntu was installed on hda1 half a year ago
[09:37] <lied> grazie, thx for your help. i nearly forgotten that
[09:41] <kmindi> hey, I have a problem: The problem is the same problem that is described here (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyKnownIssues/59618). Now I have this problem with the installed version (cause I changed it manually) but if I follow the howto I get until that point where to save the modified conf file but it is read only how can I make it?
[09:43] <kmindi> please help me.
[09:44] <kmindi> while waiting for answers I try to do it with a live cd.
[09:45] <W8TAH> kmindi
[09:45] <W8TAH> whats the issue
[09:47] <hyper_ch> kmindi: you have to edit the file as root:   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:47] <kmindi> hyper_ch: sure, but it says there is no su/sudo command
[09:48] <kmindi> (under this initframs point described in the howto)
[09:48] <hyper_ch> kmindi: have you tried with sudo anyway?
[09:49] <hyper_ch> do you still have a life cd?
[09:50] <kmindi> i installed the xubuntu
[09:51] <kmindi> and I am not using the live/desktop cd anymore
[09:51] <lied> kmindi, do you boot with xubuntu install cd?
[09:51] <kmindi> no
[09:51] <lied> kmindi, which live cd do you use?
[09:51] <kmindi> ?
[09:52] <kmindi> I'm trying to fix it with dsl live cd.
[09:52] <lied> kmindi, ah ok
[09:52] <lied> have you already mounted your xubuntupartition?
[09:52] <kmindi> but i tried it before with boot parameters in grup (according to the howto)
[09:52] <hyper_ch> kmindi: then mount the partition, alter the xorg.conf and it's ok
[09:52] <kmindi> ok.
[09:52] <kmindi> sry but how can i mount the xubuntu partition
[09:53] <kmindi> sudo mount (and then?)
[09:53] <maddog39> oh thats easy
[09:53] <lied> kmindi, cat /proc/partitions
[09:53] <lied> then you try and error :)
[09:53] <maddog39> mkdir -p /mnt/xubuntu
[09:53] <maddog39> then mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/xubuntu
[09:53] <maddog39> i think thats how it works
[09:53] <kmindi> please more slowly
[09:54] <maddog39> just run those commands in terminal
[09:54] <maddog39> with sudo
[09:54] <kmindi> ok wait.
[09:54] <lied> maddog39, on dsl is no sudo afaik
[09:54] <maddog39> nope
[09:54] <maddog39> in dsl
[09:54] <maddog39> u can emulate sudo
[09:54] <lied> kmindi, try maddog's way if you fail highlight me ;)
[09:54] <maddog39> by using su -c "command_here"
[09:54] <lied> maddog39, for what?
[09:54] <lied> just use ROOT!
[09:55] <maddog39> lied, su -c "command_here" is a way to emulate sudo in DSL
[09:55] <lied> maddog39, yeah but for what?
[09:55] <maddog39> to run commands as root
[09:55] <maddog39> under DamnSmallLinux
[09:55] <maddog39> somebody asked
[09:55] <maddog39> so i answered
[09:55] <lied> maddog39, hm
[09:56] <lied> maddog39, i thought you juste be "root" on a dsl live cd
[09:56] <maddog39> im actually running an alpha build of Haiku atm, im not on linux
[09:56] <maddog39> yes
[09:56] <maddog39> but if you install it
[09:56] <lied> kmindi, what is the output of the command id
[09:56] <maddog39> you are a standard user
[09:56] <lied> sure?
[09:56] <maddog39> yup
[09:56] <maddog39> brb
[09:57] <lied> hm ok, than i'm wrong sry
[09:57] <kmindi> oh man i'm so confuses
[09:57] <kmindi> -s +d
[09:57] <kmindi> whats the default password for dsl?
[10:00] <lied> kmindi, su -c <command> don't work?
[10:00] <lied> su -c passwd root
[10:00] <kmindi> it asks for a password
[10:01] <lied> mom i google for you
[10:01] <kmindi> im doing already but did not find anything until now
[10:01] <lied> sudo passwd
[10:02] <lied> did this ask for a pw?
[10:04] <lied> If you need to run a command as root, you simply type sudo [command] . If you want to stay root for as long as the shell session is open, type sudo su. The root password is unknown to the user, but if you need to login as root, type sudo passwd, supply a new one for root, and then you can use the command su root.
[10:04] <kmindi> i thougt sudo wont work but it seems to work
[10:05] <lied> hihi
[10:05] <fabian> hi :)
[10:05] <lied> hi fabian
[10:08] <kmindi> so im working with the sudo command and that works
[10:08] <kmindi> i mountet the hda1 partition
[10:08] <kmindi> and now im browsing for the file
[10:12] <kmindi> I think I made it.
[10:12] <kmindi> Trying reboot
[10:12] <fabian> kmindi: you're great
[10:13] <kmindi> sure ^^.
[10:13] <kmindi> but only with the help of others. ;)
[10:13] <maddog39> back
[10:13] <kmindi> Oh I thik it works
[10:13] <fabian> gratulations, bye
[10:13] <fabian> kmindi: see you :)
[10:14] <fabian> bye
[10:15] <kmindi|ibm-t20> yes it works as you can see
[10:17] <kmindi|ibm-t20> thanks for your help guys
[10:37] <jjesse> good afternoon, if i need to reconfigure my display, what is the easiest way to do that?  i'm pretty much an newbie to xubuntu
[10:38] <vidd_laptop> question...can you do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to go from edgy to fiesty?
[10:39] <vidd_laptop> ooppss...helps if i spell it right!
[10:39] <TheSheep> jjesse: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:42] <jjesse> thanks TheSheep
[10:43] <kmindi|ibm-t20> well... gn8 boys (and maybe girls (hopefully))
[10:43] <vidd_laptop> !seen maxamillion
[10:53] <superkirbyartist> Hi everyone.
[10:53] <superkirbyartist> I'm looking for an Ogg Theora player that works well on a Pentium MMX laptop.
[10:56] <TheSheep> superkirbyartist: try vlc
[10:57] <TheSheep> superkirbyartist: or mplayer
[10:57] <TheSheep> (actually, I think they use the same code for ogg)
[11:03] <vidd_laptop> anyone have drivers for the bcm4306 chipset?
[11:03] <vidd_laptop> the windows drivers that is
[11:05] <Sergo> hello all
[11:05] <Sergo> what graphic interface does xubuntu use, gtk+ ?
[11:05] <cliebow> vidd_laptop, google for it...fwcutter  and bcm43xx
[11:05] <Sergo> X widget toolkit
[11:06] <TheSheep> Sergo: gtk+2
[11:06] <Sergo> thanks
[11:06] <Sergo> =] 
[11:06] <vidd_laptop> cliebow, did...and after looking though about 100 of the 1.8 MILLION pages...still no download link
[11:06] <Sergo> but kubuntu
[11:06] <Sergo> also gtk+2 /
[11:06] <TheSheep> Sergo: kubuntu uses kde and qt
[11:07] <TheSheep> Sergo: ubuntu uses gtk+2 and gnome
[11:07] <TheSheep> gnomeui actually extends gtk
[11:08] <vidd_laptop> cliebow, i get lots of info pages and instructions, but NO downloads
[11:09] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: google for the exact file name
[11:09] <TheSheep> vidd_laptop: or even use the extension: feature of google
[11:09] <cliebow> sudo apat-cache search  fwcutter
[11:10] <cliebow> whoops
[11:10] <Sergo> what software are desigen for xubuntu
[11:10] <vidd_laptop> the fwcutter hasnt worked since mid december
[11:10] <Sergo> that are gtk+ and gnome?
[11:10] <Sergo> =] 
[11:10] <cliebow> yeah hmm. i ama using it inppc
[11:11] <TheSheep> Sergo: I think there was a nice list of good and lightweight gtk applications on the xfce wiki
[11:12] <vidd_laptop> i need the stuff for ndiswrapper
[11:13] <Sergo> ok, thanks
[11:13] <vidd_laptop> i have a 4306 card...and it dont wanna work with the linux drivers
[11:15] <TheSheep> Sergo: found it: http://wiki.xfce.org/recommendedapps
[11:16] <Sergo> thanks!
[11:40] <joselcehn> um...hullo there,can anyone helpmeout with an xubuntu install?
[11:41] <TheSheep> !ask | joselcehn
[11:41] <ubotu> joselcehn: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:42] <joselcehn> right now i'm at the end of this 8-step quick setup once xubuntu has booted and you choose install on the desktop
[11:42] <joselcehn> when it tries toformat the HDD it tellsme : The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) failed.
[11:43] <joselcehn> btw. thx for your help :)
[11:43] <TheSheep> joselcehn: you already have the partitions created?
[11:43] <TheSheep> joselcehn: I remember there was a bug in the live cd
[11:44] <joselcehn> yep. winxp was on the HDD,trying to get rid of it.:)
[11:44] <Maybelline> huzzah!
[11:44] <TheSheep> joselcehn: Bug #46135
[11:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 46135 in ubiquity "Failed to create file system (with 'erase entire disk')" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/46135
[11:45] <joselcehn> ok.i'm looking at it right now
[11:45] <TheSheep> joselcehn: try unmounting that partition first
[11:47] <joselcehn> ok.im a terminal,using umount? (i'm still a n00b)
[11:48] <TheSheep> joselcehn: you can just right-click on the disk on your desktop and select 'unmount'
[11:48] <TheSheep> joselcehn: should work
[11:48] <TheSheep> joselcehn: the windows disk
[11:49] <joselcehn> ok....i'm on it
[11:49] <TheSheep> btw, anybody seen the new launchpad in Opera? it's rather embarrasing...
[11:50] <crimsun> they'd probably love to hear about it in #launchpad
[11:51] <TheSheep> crimsun: you think so? :)
[11:52] <vidd_laptop> the next version is gutsy? I hope that isnt the final name
[11:53] <Pumpernickel> It is.
[11:53] <Maybelline> that's what I thought about feisty
[11:53] <TheSheep> might have been worse :)
[11:53] <vidd_laptop> i guess
[11:54] <vidd_laptop> what kind of stuff they got planned?
[11:54] <joselcehn> hello again. unmounting the windoze partition didn't work same error message as before :( it stopped at 5%
[11:55] <Jonex> Can I turn off the screen from the console?
[11:55] <Jonex> Like a screen saver.
[11:55] <joselcehn> it somehow mounted the windoze partition again( iguess it mus a some point to format it)
[11:55] <Jonex> (its a laptop)
[11:55] <Maybelline> Jonex: man xset
[11:56] <TheSheep> Jonex: it has a build-in screensaver -- it will blank after a while of inactivity
[11:56] <joselcehn>  --
[11:56] <Jonex> TheSheep: But not turn off the screen?
[11:58] <Jonex> Oh, found out I could simply close the computer :)
[11:58] <Maybelline> Jonex: "xset dpms force off" does the trick from the console
[11:59] <Jonex> how do i turn it back?
[12:00] <TheSheep> joselcehn: there are also Bug #107259 and Bug #99908
[12:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107259
[12:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 99908 in ubiquity "The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed." [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99908
[12:00] <Maybelline> Jonex: hit the space bar -- works for me
[12:01] <Maybelline> ubotu: can he do a killall on thunar, then umount, then install?
[12:01] <TheSheep> joselcehn: the last one has a fix, I think
[12:01] <TheSheep> !bot | Maybelline
[12:01] <ubotu> Maybelline: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:02] <TheSheep> !botsnack
[12:02] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[12:02] <vidd_laptop> lol
[12:02] <TheSheep> bon APTetite
[12:02] <Maybelline> Do I look dumb, or what?
[12:03] <vidd_laptop> lol
[12:03] <TheSheep> Maybelline: sorry, just thought you're new here
[12:03] <Maybelline> TheSheep: you'd be correct... new to IRC, not to Xubuntu, tho'
[12:04] <Maybelline> I can take the ridicule, though... bring it.
[12:04] <TheSheep> Maybelline: don't be angry, just wanted to explain it somehow, sorry
[12:04] <joselcehn>  TheSheep: the last one?- you mean release?
[12:04] <Maybelline> TheSheep: not angry at all... I've got to learn!
[12:05] <TheSheep> joselcehn: the last bug I psated
[12:05] <TheSheep> joselcehn: the Bug #99908
[12:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 99908 in ubiquity "The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed." [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99908
[12:05] <vidd_laptop> !bug1
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bug1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <vidd_laptop> !bug 1
[12:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[12:05] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:05] <TheSheep> %)
[12:07] <TheSheep> joselcehn: alternatively, you might try to open a directory, go to the preferences, last tab and disable the 'volume manager' -- I think this is the part that mounts the partition
[12:07] <Maybelline> !bug 107259 has a fix, too
[12:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 107259 in ubiquity "Xubuntu partitioning can fail because ubiquity does not prevent thunar from automounting new partitions" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107259
[12:07] <Maybelline> Boot the desktop CD.
[12:07] <Maybelline>   Go to Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager.
[12:07] <Maybelline>   Select "File Manager".
[12:07] <Maybelline>   Switch to the "Advanced" tab.
[12:07] <Maybelline>   Click on the "Configure" link ("Configure the management of removable drives and media ...").
[12:07] <Maybelline>   Uncheck "Mount removable drives when hot-plugged" and "Mount removable media when inserted".
[12:07] <Maybelline>   Close all the windows just opened, and start the installer.
[12:10] <joselcehn> Maybelline: ok. i 'm trying, thy a lot
[12:12] <joselcehn> Maybelline: Grrbll, installer hangs, is there a place i can kill it?
[12:13] <Maybelline> joselcehn: Don't know how safe it is, but you can killall ubiquity, I would think.  Are you sure it's hung, though?
[12:14] <joselcehn> maybelline: yep. i tried to quit it 10 min. ago, and it asks me if i'm really sure about it. but none of th ebuttons respond...so i'll just kill it and restart .
[12:18] <joselcehn> maybelline: ok. i killed it :) should i still unmount the winxp partition?
[12:20] <Maybelline> joselcehn: yeah, go through the steps I outlined above, and make sure your HDD isn't mounted (cat /etc/mtab)
[12:24] <Maybelline> joselcehn: working?
[12:24] <joselcehn> HDD is scratching it seems to work! yay! thanks everyone!
[12:25] <Maybelline> joselcehn: you bet