[12:35] <bossie> i am trying to play flash files in firefox
[12:35] <bossie> running edubuntu amd64
[12:35] <bossie> any suggestions for a plugin?
[12:37] <bossie> macromedia flash plugin in add/remove says it can't work under amd64
[12:38] <moquist> bossie: Sorry, dude. If you do figure something out, I'd love to hear about it. :)
[12:39] <bossie> thanks, i really need it, so i suppose i go back to i386
[12:47] <bossie> on http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux-amd64.html
[12:47] <bossie> it says one can use flash player 7 with nspluginwrapper
[12:47] <bossie> any idea what the pros & cons are?
[12:48] <bossie> i don't have sound on the thin clients anyway
[01:05] <bossie> gottogo
[05:26] <jimhutchinson> I'm working on an education conference presentation project and am wondering which mail list would be appropriate to announce it and try and stir up some interest.
[05:26] <jimhutchinson> The wiki for the project is here https://wiki.edubuntu.org/TIEColorado
[08:41] <willvdl> RichEd, morning
[09:03] <RichEd> 'lo willvdl
[09:03] <willvdl> 'lo
[09:04] <willvdl> Spent most of last night thinking about the process
[09:04] <RichEd> and some happy conclusions ?
[09:05] <willvdl> yeah, just trying to contain the scope
[09:07] <RichEd> if the scope is too broad for the tech community, then we can toss some of it over into the education community jurisdiction ... but i agree that for the moment, we should go for small and solid to get something working
[09:11] <RichEd> hey corey :)
[09:18] <Burgundavia> hey RichEd
[09:20] <RichEd> did you feel UDS was productive for you ?
[09:24] <highvoltage> well, he became a council member, so he better say yes :p
[09:24] <Burgundavia> absolutely
[09:24] <Burgundavia> to both statements/questions :)
[09:25] <willvdl> Burgundavia, see you made the train to Cadiz but Seb & co missed it :)
[09:25] <Burgundavia> indeed
[09:25] <Burgundavia> they should have just gotten on
[09:25] <willvdl> ironic cause it was their idea to go there
[09:25] <Burgundavia> we were going to go to Gibraltar but the car ended up being a lot more in Cadiz than Sevilla
[09:26] <Burgundavia> so we took the AVE to Madrid instead
[09:26] <Burgundavia> stayed a cool hotel in Cadiz, run by a couple
[09:36] <ajmitch> hi
[10:09] <dean_za> Hi , I am having issues with TCM , I have installed x11vnc , edited the rc.local file and moved K99rc.local to S99rc.local in /etc/rc2.d/ I have rebooted both server and clients ans I still cannot use either the share desktop or view desktop functions , can someone please give me hint as towhat else to try ,this is edubuntu 7.04
[10:12] <RichEd> hi dean ... ogra or cbx33 are bext to ask about that ...
[10:12] <RichEd> or else you could try in #ltsp ... sbalneav or jammcq may be able to help there
[10:13] <dean_za> thanks Rich , is it supposed to work "out the box "
[10:13] <dean_za> or could I have done something wrong soomewhere
[10:13] <t94xr-lappy> RichEd, pm :)
[10:15] <dean_za> can i join more than one channel at a time ?
[10:15] <dean_za> kinda like a new "tab" in firefox ?
[10:22] <RichEd> t94xr-lappy: give me a few mins ... busy with the upload ...
[10:22] <RichEd> dean_za: what IRC client are you using
[10:22] <RichEd> xchat lets you do what you want ... get it from add/remove ...
[11:00] <RichEd> t94xr: here is the page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/education/resources
[11:00] <RichEd> uploading attachment now .. and will then need to link the attachment ... so 10 mins or so to being available
[11:00] <t94xr-lappy> cool thanks ma n
[11:01] <t94xr-lappy> sweet as
[11:19] <RichEd> t94xr t94xr-lappy ... done ... please check that it works ?
[11:21] <RichEd> willvdl: see ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/education/resources
[11:22] <RichEd> if you find a good site or doc or whatever, please add to the page as a placeholder ... we can process them later, but better than letting stuff float past down the stream of time
[11:22] <willvdl> cool. might be good to post on ML
[11:23] <willvdl> I'll port my bookmarks folder over later :)
[11:23] <RichEd> willvdl: wait until I have it a bit neater ... needs a table format and a bit more guidance ... so let's use it ourself for a week or two and people here and then announce soonish when it is smoother
[11:23] <willvdl> no worries. We'll fill that puppy up in no time :)
[11:24] <t94xr-lappy> RichEd, downloading now - thanks man
[11:32] <RichEd> great ... don't forget to send comments / experiences ... there are a truckload of applications to chose from there ... we'd like to know where we should start with our own focus to bring into edubuntu or recommend
[11:32] <RichEd> ^ t94xr, t94xr-lappy ^
[11:32] <t94xr-lappy> <3
[11:33] <t94xr-lappy> looking thru it now man
[11:33] <RichEd> yumy stuff innit ... compared to what you get for free from proprietary people ;)
[11:39] <t94xr-lappy> yeah its really well put together
[11:41] <RichEd> just found this on the same org site: Catalog of Free and Open Source Software for Small-Medium Enterprises
[11:41] <RichEd> :) ... downloading from :
[11:41] <RichEd> http://www.osv.org.au/index.cgi?tid=161
[11:44] <RichEd> willvdl: who in canonical / ubuntu would find that SME stuff useful ? anyone ?
[11:45] <willvdl> malcolm
[11:45] <willvdl> took the words out of my mouth
[11:51] <RichEd> thanks :)
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi all
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi RichEd :)
[01:27] <jsgotangco> hi
[01:27] <RichEd> hi jsgotangco
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:27] <jsgotangco> hey RichEd how's it going
[01:27] <RichEd> jsgotangco: how's the new job
[01:27] <jsgotangco> RichEd: what job???
[01:28] <RichEd> someone said yesterday that you had a new job ?
[01:28] <RichEd> jsgotangco: going too good at the moment ... to many exciting doors opening, but limited number of legs
[01:28] <RichEd> *too
[01:28] <jsgotangco> well i do have a new job within the ubuntu Community as a council member, but in real life, i just joined the unemployed labour force :)
[01:29] <RichEd> ohhh ... CC "job" ... overworked and unpaid
[01:29] <jsgotangco> haha
[01:29] <RichEd> sorry to hear about the RL :( is it a problem at the moment ... or just a breather
[01:29] <jsgotangco> its actually both
[01:30] <jsgotangco> one just lead to another, but i guess that is my fate so i will just move on of course
[01:30] <RichEd> Kamping_Kaiser: will chat next week regarding the training side we started yesterday ... but in a snapshot overview: the Ubuntu Training Manager is starting to work a programme with universities to incorporate Ubuntu into degree courses
[01:31] <jsgotangco> i actually had an interview this morning with a local telecoms company so I will see how it goes
[01:31] <RichEd> Get such courses LIP certified so that the person ends up with the academic qualification as well as the business qualification
[01:31] <RichEd> Currently been done by Portsmouth University of their own accord, we are now trying to replicate the idea
[01:32] <RichEd> So looking for a test case university in a few key areas over a geographic spread.
[01:32] <RichEd> If you know of any Auz or NZ uni that teaches open source as part of degree ... let me know.
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> RichEd, awsome. i look forward to chatting when your able.
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'll ask around
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> RichEd, how 'open source' specifically - i know at leats one of adelaids unis teach using GCC for building, and some RH workstations
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> *least, Adelaide
[01:34] <jsgotangco> who is the ubuntu training manager?
[01:34] <RichEd> Kamping_Kaiser: we want one that has seen the light ... Portsmouth started to use Ubuntu in their own infrastructure, and then naturally started to base their coursework on it
[01:34] <RichEd> jsgotangco: Billy Cina
[01:35] <jsgotangco> i hear so many new names in corporate canonical lately
[01:35] <RichEd> Kamping_Kaiser: they do courses like a 2 year masters in Internet Technology ... 12 months of which must be a large project ... with placement in a school or company
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> right. i'll ask around about open source in general, with a particular intrest in ubuntu
[01:36] <RichEd> So it is a real hands on course to eject the student directly into work ... not theory and then a need to upskill into the real world
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[01:47] <RichEd> how is this for a logic leap:
[01:47] <RichEd> Database >> Wednesday May 09, 2007
[01:47] <RichEd> Google
[01:47] <RichEd> SOFTWARE / WINDOWS VERSUS LINUX
[01:47] <RichEd> Microsoft director out to 'debunk mythology around open source'
[01:47] <RichEd> DON SAMBANDARAKSA
[01:47] <RichEd> Microsoft platform strategy director Bill Hilf
[01:47] <RichEd> "The Free Software movement is dead. Linux doesn't exist in 2007. Even Linus has got a job today." Controversial statements from the head of Microsoft's Linux Labs, Bill Hilf.
[01:47] <RichEd> Speaking on the last leg of a tour of Singapore, the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand, Bill Hilf, more formally known as Microsoft's platform strategy director, was in the region to "be descriptive and intelligent in giving people an understanding of open source and debunk a lot of the mythology around open source."
[01:47] <RichEd> He said that most customers run a distribution - RedHat, Novell, Suse or Mandriva. Most of the work on maintaining the Linux kernel is done by developers working for these distributions, he noted
[01:47] <RichEd> "They are full-time employees, with 401K stock options. Some work for IBM or Oracle. What does that mean? It means that Linux doesn't exist any more in 2007. There is no free software movement. If someone says Linux is about Love, Peace and Harmony, I would tell them to do their research. There is no free software movement any more. There is big commercial [firms]  like IBM and there is small commercial [firms]  like Ubuntu," he said.
[01:47] <RichEd> The former IBM employee said that IBM's work on Linux is aimed at creating more reliable storage solutions and a more reliable mainframe.
[01:47] <RichEd> "People ask me, why are you doing this? Why did you do the Novell deal? Why aren't you doing Office on Linux? The summary is quite simple. Growth of the ecosystem equals growth of the [Windows]  platform," he said.
[01:48] <RichEd> Hilf said that the Linux phenomenon had nothing to do with Linux, but rather it had a lot to do with Apache, MySQL and PHP. It was those applications which pulled Linux up with it, the "Visual Basic of open source."
[01:48] <RichEd> Hilf described Microsoft's interest in open source as a business interest, without altruistic community love or with marketin
[01:48] <RichEd> oops ... sorry about the flood ...
[01:51] <jsgotangco> too bad I don't feel the same way as Bill Hilf
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> ^^
[01:54] <RichEd> the logic leap is absurd ... working for a salary for company producing open source software does not mean that the s/w costs the end user money
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> RichEd, he could have been refereing to 'Free software', rather the Open Source, and bluring the lines to cause pain
[01:55] <RichEd> [01:55] <RichEd> so the software can still be free ...
[01:56] <RichEd> people who work at univrsities get paid ... but some write software
[01:56] <RichEd> and give the s/w away
[01:56] <RichEd> the point is that there is no logic connection at all
[01:56] <jsgotangco> right
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> *i'm* aware of that. but causing confusion in the minds of peopel is what MS do a fair bit of
[01:56] <jsgotangco> he doesn't understand it at all
[01:57] <RichEd> you have free software, and paid for software ... the employee or no-employee is just a tangential sh!tstir
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> RichEd, btw, got a link for that paste?
[01:58] <ogra> jsgotangco, be sure he *does* understand it ... what he says is on purpose
[01:59] <jsgotangco> that too
[01:59] <ogra> its marketing babbling
[01:59] <jsgotangco> ah well shame on him being part of the open source labs anyways
[01:59] <jsgotangco> (of MS that is, if it actually exists)
[01:59] <ogra> yeah
[01:59] <RichEd> Kamping_Kaiser: http://www.bangkokpost.com/090507_Database/09May2007_data05.php
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> jsgotangco, i'd be confident it exists. they need to look for patents somewhere ;)
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> RichEd, thanks
[02:00] <jsgotangco> ogra: so you actually are a classmate PC user now?
[02:00] <RichEd> Kamping_Kaiser: perhaps the site name gives a clue as to what he is doing ;)
[02:00] <ogra> MS always spreaded FUD ... the novell deal wont change their habits ;)
[02:00] <ogra> jasyup
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> dell joining them wont help either
[02:00] <ogra> err
[02:00] <ogra> jsgotangco, yup
[02:00] <jsgotangco> lucky!
[02:00] <ogra> tiny!
[02:01] <jsgotangco> well you are *big*
[02:01] <ogra> aned slooow yet ... with edubuntu ...
[02:01] <ogra> i'm working on fixing that
[02:01] <jsgotangco> but still! its exciting!
[02:01] <RichEd> [02:02] <ogra> indeed it is
[02:02] <jsgotangco> i've only have access to OLPC XO-1 and its nice, but I cannot say that it made me feel excited
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> jsgotangco, the UI?
[02:18] <jsgotangco> ahh no not really, the hardware is really cool, especially the display, it just feels a bit heavy to me...
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> 50% f the wieght is the battery
[02:20] <jsgotangco> yeah, we don't have the technology yet to generate eletricity from air it seems
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> we do, its just a bit larger then the laptop
[02:28] <jsgotangco> without using wind vanes?
[02:28] <jsgotangco> heh
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> on the subject of 'business can afford fast bandwidth', in australia a lot of the place is covered by satalite/isdn
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> 200mb/month, 12cents/mb over
[02:49] <jsgotangco> outside metropolitan areas?
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> 3g has (iirc) 500mb/month, and several dollars(5-10)/mb over
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats central australia
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'the edge' is mostly adsl/cable capable
[02:50] <jsgotangco> ahh yeah
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> and quite a number of people (some must include small business) are on rims, so adsl is hard to get for them (read imposible without a new phone line)
[04:03] <jsgotangco> RichEd: i got this email and forwarded it to you
[04:06] <RichEd> highvoltage: you there dude ?
[04:07] <highvoltage> RichEd: partially, I'm catching up with a ~two week backlog
[04:07] <RichEd> highvoltage: i see you are part of that small business server spec ... can you give the subsrcibers that Free Software for SME doc url i mentioned that you said would be useful
[04:08] <RichEd> I can't find a way to add it into the blueprint on LP
[04:08] <highvoltage> RichEd: mind pasting that link again?
[04:08] <Burgundavia> anybody can edit the whitebaord RichEd
[04:10] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia: did you gain "some" weight?
[04:10] <t94xr-lappy> RichEd, do you ever sleep?
[04:10] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: why do you say that?
[04:10] <jsgotangco> i just saw some pics from flickr
[04:11] <Burgundavia> linky?
[04:11] <Burgundavia> too late willvdl, the pictures are taken
[04:11] <jsgotangco> must be just the angle of the shot
[04:11] <RichEd> Burgundavia / highvoltage : added to whiteboard
[04:12] <RichEd> t94xr-lappy: I am not a 24hr person ... that honour goes to far more people than me :)
[04:12] <t94xr-lappy> lol
[04:12] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: ok
[04:13] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: which is the link?
[04:13] <jsgotangco> http://www.flickr.com/photos/8294638@N02/499359898/
[04:13] <jsgotangco> hehe
[04:13] <jsgotangco> well not that exactly
[04:14] <jsgotangco> i just thought it looked like some holywood bad guy shot
[04:14] <Burgundavia> http://www.flickr.com/photos/8294638@N02/499356410/in/photostream/
[04:14] <Burgundavia> this one?
[04:14] <jsgotangco> yeah
[04:15] <Burgundavia> I am pulling a face, but I have gained about 5/10 pounds in the last 6 months
[04:15] <Burgundavia> more office work
[04:15] <jsgotangco> i look terrible lately too, but since i am taking time off, hvae started doing my morning run again
[04:16] <RichEd> jsgotangco: got the mail ... will try to help ... we have another thread going with a guy from brazil uni looking to help in community & schools so will link then up
[04:16] <jsgotangco> cool thanks!
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnigh tall
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> *gnight all
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> see you 'then'
[04:30] <willvdl> meduxa hi there
[04:38] <jsgotangco> ok time for me to retire too
[04:38] <jsgotangco> good night
[04:52] <mcsd> is there a way to exit chroot ... do I just change user... I booted off a live cd and mount my harddrive to the cd then chroot into the harddrive and now I want to run updates but it fails when running chroot
[04:55] <gnomefreak> mcsd: exit will exit you from chroot
[04:56] <mcsd> gnomefreak: thank you
[04:57] <mcsd> so if I exit and run apt-get update in the same terminal which system am I updating the mounted harddrive or the live cd?
[04:58] <gnomefreak> live
[05:30] <bddebian> Heya
[05:58] <meduxa> willvdl hi
[06:05] <mcsd> is there a way to update an installed harddrive while running the live cd?
[06:11] <Burgundavia> yes
[06:20] <mcsd> how can I target the harddrive with apt-get update?
[06:21] <mcsd> I can't seem to do it chroot
[06:22] <Burgundavia> ahh
[06:22] <Burgundavia> so you have mounted it and chrooted into it?
[06:24] <mcsd> yeah
[06:25] <Burgundavia> you might have to manually mount proc
[06:25] <mcsd> it is mounted
[06:25] <mcsd> I have proc and dev mounted
[06:26] <Burgundavia> right
[06:26] <Burgundavia> what is apt saying?
[06:31] <mcsd> could not resolve addresses
[06:34] <Burgundavia> have you brought up the network?
[06:40] <mcsd> yes
[06:41] <mcsd> I can update with sudo but not with chroot ... I am guessing that is how it is designed ... but if I update with sudo am I updating the harddrive?
[06:41] <mcsd> or are the changes just caching into memory for the live cd
[06:43] <ogra> copy /etc/resolv.conf from the host to the chroot
[06:44] <ogra> and mount /proc in the chroot if you are in there
[06:55] <mcsd> is anyone familiar with lilo?  I have an error but I cannot tell if it is from fstab or lilo.conf
[06:56] <mcsd> check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline      or missing modules, devices: cat /proc/modules ls /dev    ALERT! does not exist.  Dropping to shell
[07:00] <ogra> any particular reason to not use grub ?
[07:00] <mcsd> I have to Dell optiplex 320 will not work with grub
[07:00] <ogra> ah
[07:02] <mcsd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409345
[07:03] <mcsd> Ati's sb6000 chipset was written improperly even though Dell sells it as an open source model...so I asked what open source works on it...they said open office...nice answer
[07:03] <ogra> heh
[07:04] <ogra> they didnt lie then :)
[07:04] <mcsd> that would mean all proprietary pc's are open source ...yea
[07:04] <ogra> very diplomatic
[08:31] <mcsd> I would like to order about 400 edubuntu cds but I keep getting directed to ubuntu website and only kubuntu and ubuntu are versions available...I received a few samples in beautiful packaging ... is there a way to order more?
[08:32] <Burgundavia> mcsd: via shipit
[08:32] <LaserJock> did you try shipit.edubuntu.org?
[08:32] <mcsd> yeah but it says it will send them free of charge
[08:33] <LaserJock> right
[08:38] <mcsd> but they will send several hundred free of charge?
[08:45] <LaserJock> mcsd: I think so
[08:46] <LaserJock> especially if you have a good justification for several hundred
[08:48] <LaserJock> ogra: you around? It appears I'm about to expire from the edubuntu-bugsquad
[08:49] <willvdl> LaserJock, heya
[08:50] <willvdl> mcsd, if you can provide a good justification for that many CD's then it will be considered by ShipIt
[08:50] <willvdl> we normally ship half of that to the LoCo teams
[08:50] <willvdl> where are you based?
[08:57] <willvdl> LaserJock, how was the wedding?
[08:58] <alfred_> can anyone help me figure out local devices on a new install of edubuntu LTSP feisty
[08:58] <LaserJock> willvdl: good, hot and long, but good
[08:59] <LaserJock> hahaha
[09:06] <tristan_> can someone help me here with a simple question?
[09:07] <tristan_> in the past i ran debian with 2 monitors+1 keyboards/mouses on one pc and now I want something like that as a thinclient using edubuntu
[09:08] <tristan_> so actually it are 2 clients
[09:08] <tristan_> is something like that possible out of the box?
[09:08] <willvdl> sounds like a job for edubuntu thin clients!
[09:09] <tristan_> yes, but a setup like this is not very common i guess?
[09:09] <tristan_> using one pc for two thin clients?
[09:10] <tristan_> maybe I should give it a try and ask questions when i've atleast tried it ;)
[09:10] <willvdl> well, you can work off the server
[09:10] <willvdl> and set the other one up as thin client
[09:11] <willvdl> LaserJock, can you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuApplicationReview (short) and tell me if it makes sense yet?
[09:13] <tristan_> willvdl: what do you think.. I have 2 pc's capable to run ubuntu or edubuntu and one rente pc which is capable to do anything
[09:13] <tristan_> is it worth it to setup thinclients?
[09:13] <tristan_> or should I install them standalone?
[09:13] <tristan_> *rente=recent
[09:14] <tristan_> it's for a "give-away-store" in the netherlands with free internet fascilities
[09:14] <willvdl> depends on what you want to do with them but you could setup up the 2 older ones to serve off your recent PC. How much RAM has it got? Nics etc?
[09:15] <tristan_> this pc has only 512MB, but it's enough for what I do
[09:15] <tristan_> the nics are just 3com 100mbit nics
[09:15] <tristan_> but that should be fine
[09:16] <tristan_> i just have to handle 2 clients atm and maybe expand it in the future
[09:16] <willvdl> if you have the time, give it a go. could prove useful
[09:17] <tristan_> i have to pull some wires then
[09:17] <tristan_> but that's no problem
[09:17] <tristan_> I will do it next week
[09:18] <willvdl> cool. good luck. jsut check the minimum RAM requirements. can't remember what they are :)
[09:18] <LaserJock> willvdl: well, it looks fine, although it seems like our spec got neutered
[09:18] <willvdl> LaserJock, not neutered, just scoped
[09:18] <tristan_> I readed a review which was talking about a minimum of 512MB
[09:18] <tristan_> for the server
[09:19] <LaserJock> willvdl: well, is there a spec for the Ubuntu Education Community part?
[09:19] <tristan_> should work I guess, since my other PC's did work with 128MB too
[09:19] <willvdl> LaserJock, not yet, but we'll need one. specifically leaving this spec open ended for that purpose
[09:20] <LaserJock> I'm not sure why it needs to have a separate spec though
[09:20] <LaserJock> it's all one spec, IMO
[09:21] <willvdl> it's specced according to scope :)
[09:21] <willvdl> scope can grow
[09:21] <LaserJock> well, it's not very likely to get approved if it's a "this is a spec that depends on a non-existant spec" spec
[09:21] <tristan_> what's on the classroom server add-on CD?
[09:22] <LaserJock> most of the educational software
[09:22] <willvdl> tristan_, additional educational apps
[09:22] <willvdl> we're working on providing a list
[09:22] <tristan_> ok :)
[09:23] <tristan_> I'm downloading the iso now btw
[09:23] <tristan_> sorry for my stupid questions btw
[09:23] <willvdl> not stupid at all
[09:24] <tristan_> well, there was a time a compiled programm's and was checking dependencies :P
[09:24] <tristan_> ubuntu made me lazy
[09:25] <willvdl> ubuntu freed you to do useful stuff :)
[09:25] <tristan_> no
[09:25] <tristan_> it made me lazy ;)
[09:27] <tristan_> btw.. does Canonical ship edubuntu CD's?
[09:27] <LaserJock> yes
[09:27] <tristan_> why didn't I notice that in the past
[09:28] <tristan_> :\
[09:28] <tristan_> it makes more sense to give those CD's away to familys with kids
[09:28] <tristan_> do they have edubuntu stickers at canonical too?
[09:28] <tristan_> for on my window?
[09:30] <LaserJock> I think they only have Ubuntu ones
[09:30] <LaserJock> but I'm not positive
[09:31] <willvdl> only seen ubuntu ones
[09:31] <willvdl> might be some on diy site
[09:33] <willvdl> check with #ubuntu-marketing
[09:34] <tristan_> how is the translation of edubuntu into dutch?
[09:35] <willvdl> urk, asking some fine questions :)
[09:35] <willvdl> need to check on Launchpad for that one :)
[09:36] <LaserJock> tristan_: it should be quite good
[09:38] <tristan_> ok
[09:39] <tristan_> :)
[09:41] <willvdl> ooooh https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal-theme/
[09:45] <willvdl> tristan_, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+lang/nl
[09:45] <willvdl> remember edubuntu is based on ubuntu
[09:45] <tristan_> i know
[09:55] <tristan_> it r0x with all those suggestions with translations from other packages
[09:58] <tristan_> some of those translations sucks though
[10:04] <tristan_> hmmz.. my english sux.. I think `dodge' should be translated as `neerslaan'
[10:04] <tristan_> but I'm not sure
[10:06] <tristan_> can somebody help me?
[10:06] <tristan_> to reveil it's context
[10:06] <tristan_> so I'm sure of the translation?
[10:07] <tristan_> could it be used like "the riotpolice dodged the riot"?
[10:07] <tristan_> or doesn't it make sense?
[10:08] <willvdl> what package?
[10:08] <tristan_> it think the last one
[10:08] <tristan_> I'm not sure
[10:08] <willvdl> if it's gimp, then I presume dodge as in "dodge and burn"
[10:08] <tristan_> kubuntu-docs
[10:08] <tristan_> :P
[10:08] <tristan_> it says "dodge your enemies"
[10:09] <willvdl> avoid your enemies then
[10:09] <willvdl> vermy in Afrikaans
[10:09] <tristan_> aah
[10:09] <tristan_> ontwijken :)
[10:09] <tristan_> like a pacifist
[10:10] <tristan_> thanks
[10:11] <tristan_> wtf am I translating kubuntu docs :\
[10:11] <tristan_> I don't like KDE
[10:12] <tristan_> wtf
[10:12] <tristan_> ohw.. I see.. it's casue of those fancy red indicationbar
[10:12] <tristan_> those=that
[10:13] <tristan_> my english sux
[10:16] <willvdl> you mean "sucks"?
[10:16] <willvdl> :)
[10:16] <tristan_> I don't have a ks key on my keyboard
[10:16] <tristan_> :P
[10:17] <tristan_> ubuntu made me lazy, remember? ;)
[10:18] <willvdl> if that's so then how did you jsut type "ks"?
[10:19] <tristan_> ctrl+alt+x ;p
[10:20] <willvdl> I thought it was ctrl+alt+F4
[10:21] <tristan_> I use that for my coffee
[10:27] <tristan_> edubuntu download allmost finished :)
[10:56] <bolson> need help pm me
[11:38] <elias> how can I send a message to all X users on the local X-server?
[11:38] <elias> all xterminals
[11:38] <elias> (edgy ltsp)
[11:39] <elias> I somehow am looking for a gnome wall command
[11:40] <alfred_> fuse not working to map local devices feisty edubuntu install.  Only thing that makes sense is the terminal does not know it's hostname
[11:43] <alfred_> anyone?
[11:47] <alfred_> anyone even really here? Is this the right place for ltsp help?