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serciki can't use sudo command anymore.. please help me!!!12:20
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jhutchins_ltsercik: Well, the basic info is here:12:20
serciki thibk that tje problrm is i have done following command usermod -G vbixusere sercik12:20
jhutchins_lt!sudo | sercik12:20
ubotusercik: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:20
routhI need a hand from someone - I used automatix and downloaded the latest updates kubuntu dapper - and now I can't access /media/usbdisk no matter what I do with /etc/fstab12:20
serciki think that the problem is i have done following command usermod -G vboxusers sercik12:20
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jhutchins_ltsercik: Yup.  Should have used -a12:22
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serciknow when i do sudo don't work and if i launch adept dor example i insert my user password but it don't gice me access12:23
sercikplease what can i do??12:23
jhutchins_ltsercik: Probably need to do usermod -a adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin12:23
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jhutchins_ltsercik: Followed by your username, of course.12:24
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sercikah ok12:24
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jhutchins_ltsercik: Actually, your username twice, you want to be a member of serick too.12:25
routhAnyone have any idea what happened to my system? I used to have access to any new usb drives, but now it tells me I don't have access permissions12:25
sercikswitch -a is incorrect12:25
jhutchins_ltyou may also need to usermod -g sercik sercik12:25
jhutchins_ltsercik: Hm.12:25
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serciki have tried it and usermod don't recognize -a12:26
jhutchins_ltsercik: Sorry, -Ga12:26
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jhutchins_ltWhoops, sorry, I'm rusty on this.12:27
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jhutchins_ltsercik: seperate the groupnames with commas.12:27
jhutchins_ltsercik: no spaces, just commas.12:27
serciklike this usermod -Ga adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip......12:28
jhutchins_ltsercik: Yes.12:28
jhutchins_ltsercik: Some commands require that you use the form usermod -G -a, but they usually allow you to combine the options.12:28
sercikit says "a group unknown"12:28
jhutchins_ltsercik: Sigh.  Try -G -a then.12:29
jhutchins_ltsercik: "This behaviour can be changed via -a option..." - from man usermod12:30
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serciksercik is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.12:30
sercikand also another strange thing i have no mixer12:31
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jhutchins_ltsercik: Probably because you're not in group audio.12:31
JP_P_homehello raki crashes when i try to sync the calendar, but it is ok for contacts12:32
serciki'm not is sudoers so i can't use sudo so i can't add myself to groups i think...12:32
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jhutchins_ltsercik: Sorry, man, I gotta go feed the horses.  I'm sure there's a page on this on the wiki or something.12:32
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sercikthank you jhutchins12:32
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dextronehello, can anyone tell me if I can install kubuntu from the {regular} cd wo/ loading the desktop12:34
guillermoyes you can12:34
guillermoi did it today12:34
dextronemy install often freezes at the main install part where it says Detecting Filesystems12:35
dextronecan u tell me how12:35
guillermowell mine diod not freezze12:35
guillermoi had a little problem but that was beaacause the cd was damaged12:35
guillermoi isntalled kubuntu 7.0412:35
guillermoi restarted the pc with the cd insidde12:35
JP_P_homenobody uses raki ?12:35
dextronesame, but when i load the desktop, it freezes12:35
dextrone,and how do I install wo/ loading the desktop12:36
guillermothen it gets to a screen when it asks you what you want to do, i picked start kubuntu in safe mode graphics12:36
dextroneand does that allow you to install wo/ the desktop12:37
dextroneor is there something I need to do along with that12:37
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guillermoafter you get to the desktop12:38
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guillermothere is a little icon on the desktop that says install12:38
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guillermothen it just to follow orders12:38
dextroneit freezes when I do that at the last step when I press install,12:38
dextroneit says detecting filesystems12:39
guillermowhat do you have for hardrives?12:39
dextroneI tried leaving it on for ~3 hrs but no dice12:39
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dextrone40GB maxtator12:39
Sannedextrone: your best bet would be the alternate cd (but I guess you already know about that?)12:39
dextronethe thing is the live cd is my only wait to get anywhere beyond "Press any key to restart" OR "Hal.dll is corrupt" {2xp installs}12:40
dextroneand that's why I can't get the alt. cd12:40
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oemhello.. :)12:41
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dextroneoem:hello, is there anyway to install kubuntu {7} wo/ loading the live desktop12:42
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guillermochek if someone lives near you with a disc?12:42
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morfejasyra lietuviu ?:)12:43
guillermoi would try to format the disc and try again to isntall12:43
dextronewell, I know a few people here and there but I need it fixed now, so if there's any other solution I'd like it12:43
dextronethe hdd12:43
guillermowhere are you writting from now? windows?12:43
morfejashow instal skype? :\12:43
dextronethe live cd12:44
guillermoand it frezzes just at the end anfter pressing install12:44
skanehow can i change screen size in linux? please12:44
guillermoit happened to me that a warning message came up but it was hided behind the originla window so i could not see it12:44
guillermomaybe that is it, try moving the main window12:45
nosrednaekimskane: change screen size?do you have a widescreen monitor?12:45
dextroneno my mouse froze12:45
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guillermoWaht is the kubuntu for ubuntus System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver12:45
guillermooh that wa s even wrose12:46
dextrone......pesky windows, if it worked for ONE more time I could install debian/ubuntu from those auto install programs12:46
nosrednaekimguillermo: as far as I can tell there is none... sadly enough12:46
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skanenosrednaekim: i think resolution12:46
gnomhI Guillermo, do you have problems with ATI?12:46
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gnomI run on ATI too and can't run 3D Cube12:47
nosrednaekimskane: do you have a widescreen monitor?12:47
skanenosrednaekim: no i have 19'12:47
guillermognome yeah12:47
guillermoi am trying ti install the drivers12:48
gnomcan you?12:48
guillermoi got a link but it is for ubuntu12:48
nosrednaekimskane: what type of graphics card do you have?12:48
guillermoit says smething about "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver12:48
skanenosrednaekim: geforce 5600 FX12:48
nosrednaekimguillermo: go into adept, and install the "fglrx" package12:48
guillermothat, after using tje command line to install some thing12:49
gnomtry original ubuntu drivers, ATI's dont work12:49
nosrednaekimskane: install "nvidia-glx"12:49
nosrednaekimits the proprietary Nvidia drivers12:49
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guillermodo i nedd the control panel?12:49
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gnomfound tutorial, no control panel12:50
guillermoit's done12:51
guillermoi am gona try to watch a film12:51
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guillermoi got vlc, amarok, kaffeine,mplayer12:51
gnommy kubuntu is too slow running amarok12:52
guillermoi installed kubuntu today i dont know12:52
guillermoi had windows untill this morning12:52
nosrednaekimgnom: install exaile!12:52
guillermoi dont see anything on amarok burt i hear12:53
gnomnice distro, but requires work12:53
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gnomdid you compile dirvers (xine)?12:53
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guillermoare you talking to me?12:53
guillermoxine? i guess i didi12:54
luke_windows req work12:54
gnomAnybody have experience witc Scientific linux?12:54
morfejascp skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb.orig12:54
morfejascp: cannot stat `skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb': No such file or directory12:54
morfejashelp.. :)12:54
gnomchange repositories12:55
nosrednaekimmorfejas: what are you trying to do?12:55
morfejasinstal skype12:55
dextroneis there any boot option with the cd that I can try so it boots directly into the isbtaller12:55
dextrone*live cd12:55
nosrednaekimdextrone: no... you need the alternate installer for that12:55
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luke_kxmame on kubumtu is top notch12:55
luke_played frogger today12:56
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nosrednaekimwhat is kxmane12:56
morfejasI don`t speek EN help my how work next ... plz... :)12:56
gnomwhat is the problem?12:56
morfejascp skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb.orig12:57
morfejascp: cannot stat `skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb': No such file or directory12:57
morfejaswhat :)12:57
guillermoit does not work12:57
nosrednaekimmorfejas: if you don't speak  english, go to a channel for your language12:57
nosrednaekimguillermo: what doesn't?12:57
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guillermokoffeine does not show anything neither does amarok12:57
guillermoi mean the drivers12:57
guillermovlc shows sound and picture but it is slow12:57
nosrednaekimguillermo: drivers for what?12:57
luke_kxmame is in synaptic12:58
guillermoand pretty bad with fullscreen12:58
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guillermoi am trying to install drivers for an ati graphic card12:58
nosrednaekimguillermo: go into adept12:58
jaevelcan someone tell me where to find hardware list that is compatible with the new nvidia-glx-new driver?12:58
serciki don't know why but i have deassociated my user from groups i think so now i need to know to which group should add my user to work correctly in kubuntu12:58
nosrednaekimand search for adept12:58
nosrednaekimsearch for "fglrx" sorry12:58
guillermoi already installed it12:58
nosrednaekimjaevel: pretty much anything after the Geforce412:59
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pierre_how to make knetworkmanager remember for my wifi network wpa key, when i enter it the kde wallet ask me for a password but next time i start i have to enter it again, is it because knetworkmanager is maybe starting before the kdewallet ?12:59
luke_automatics will help01:00
jaevelnosrednaekim, are you sure? i have a GeForce 440 something or another and i cant get it to work?01:00
nosrednaekimguillermo: ok, now, run this command "sudo aticonfig --initial --overlay-type=Xv"01:00
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sercikjhutchins: i ave solved a little i have started kubuntu with kernel parameter sinlge and i have added sercik to group admin01:00
nosrednaekimjaevel: ok...not sure... just run nvidia-glx there is really very little difference in functionality right now01:01
sercikcould you repeat me that groups to which i need to add sercik?01:01
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jaevelnosrednaekim, well.. i've been trying to run wine->wow and everyone keeps telling me to upgrade my drivers to get it to work....01:02
guillermoi did taht nosrednaekm01:02
nosrednaekimguillermo: ok, now you need to edit your Xorg.01:02
guillermoshould it be working bwtter now?01:02
nosrednaekimno.. not yet.01:02
skanenosrednaekim:  i know it now thx01:02
guillermoif you guide me ill be thankfull01:02
nosrednaekimskane: NP01:03
nosrednaekimguillermo: will do01:03
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serciki'm not able to access sound as user01:03
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nosrednaekimguillermo: log out, and select in the KDM sessions menu or whatever to restart the X sever01:04
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nosrednaekimthen log back in.01:04
guillermoi'll be right back01:04
gnompoor guy01:04
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guillermoi am back01:06
guillermowhen i loged out i did restart the x-server01:06
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guillermothere was an option when i was about to write my password01:06
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oemi have a problem with beryl01:07
gnomme too01:07
nosrednaekimrun the command " glxinfo | grep direct"01:07
guillermowell i tryied kaffeine now and it works a lot better01:07
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nosrednaekimguillermo: really? good.01:07
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guillermoit works very good even in full size window01:07
oemits about the rendering?01:08
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nosrednaekimoem: sorry, wasn't talking to you01:08
gnomoem: did it work before?01:09
gnomon wath card?01:09
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guillermoman thx for the help01:11
oemintel 865g01:12
Grahamguillermo: You get your ATI card sorted I see?01:12
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gnomlinux native drivers?01:12
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gnomwork better. I crashed my systwm with ATI drivers01:13
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gnompure sabotage01:13
Grahamguillermo: Yes? No? Potatoes?01:13
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guillermoGraham? potatoes01:13
GrahamSeemed random, you get your graphics card working?01:14
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nosrednaekimGraham: I think he did.01:14
GrahamLovelly jubely :)01:14
rich__imnew to linux01:14
Bi||aBongi have a problem with wine and cedega when i try run GTA SA this crash01:15
rich__i have no idea what im doing01:15
nosrednaekimosrry to spoil your rhyme... its spelled "jubilee"01:15
rich__somone help.01:15
oempleas check this is a screenshot of my desktop runing beryl http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/445/mydesktopjs6.png01:15
nosrednaekimrich__: ok... whats the problem01:15
guillermoman i love this thing01:15
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guillermoi am gonna convince my friends of give it a try01:16
rich__im trying to install programs, and whever i try to do so,, it says unable to compile excutible01:16
nosrednaekimguillermo: what thing?01:16
gnominstal gcc01:16
rich__see this is my first time ever using linux01:17
gnommy first kubuntu didn t have it01:17
Sannerich__: for installting software in general in *ubuntu, see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement01:17
guillermoi mean linux01:17
guillermokubuntu all this world outside windows01:17
nosrednaekimrich__: what program?you ussually don't need to compile something..01:17
gnomneed Knemo01:17
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nosrednaekimguillermo: ah yes... most don't know this world exists...01:18
dextronecan anyone help me figure out why my computer freezes when I press the "Install" button; it freezes at 15% Detecting Filesystems01:18
rich__well what im really trying to get is beryl01:18
rich__and i have no idea how to01:18
agn0sticdextrone: are you sure it's not just hanging for a bit?01:18
dextroneI've left it on for hours sometimes; nothing changes01:19
gnomrich:get to know it in general, worry about 3d later01:19
nosrednaekimrich__: ok... first, are you running Nvidia or Intel graphics?01:19
agn0sticdextrone: i assume ubuntu 7.10 is what you're trying to install?01:20
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gnomrich: with ATI your scroweddd...01:20
agn0sticdextrone: first thing to try would be burning the iso cd at a slow speed, to make sure it's burnt correctly01:21
nosrednaekimrich__: is it a new card, or an older one?01:21
rich__a new one01:21
rich__brand new computer all together01:21
Tired_If Kubuntu decides (without me asking, after install) to load a certain kernel module, and it does, does that mean I have that particular hardware?01:21
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GrahamTired_: Just means Kubuntu THINKS you have particular hardware.01:22
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nosrednaekimrich__: that will be a big pain then. ATI doesn't play nice with Linux.01:22
Tired_So I might have Bluetooth, then...01:22
ubuntuI need help with partitioning my drive01:22
rich__well what about  cgl01:22
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rich__iv read that it is compatible01:23
GrahamWell... as far as I know, Bluetooth modules are loaded anyway.01:23
nosrednaekimTired_: nah.. you probably don't.. Ubuntu just loads those things.01:23
Daisuke_Idocmopatible, yes, stable, oh most certainly not01:23
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GrahamI personally just got rid of mine.01:23
Tired_Oh.  I don't know how I'd test it anyways...I have no bluetooth devices01:23
ubuntucan I get help with partitioning my drive01:23
rich__well either way id like to try it atleast01:23
nosrednaekimrich__: it is.. but its both unstable and a bit heavy on resouces01:23
GrahamNO YOU CAN'T!01:23
gnomdont be cruel01:24
Grahamubuntu: Get QTparted and you'll be halfway home.01:24
ubuntuplease private message me if you can help01:24
nosrednaekimrich__: ok then...01:24
gnomGparted is more sin01:24
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ncetervalWhat is the name of the Kubuntu update manager I can use to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty?  Adept was supposed to launch it, but crashed.01:24
GrahamGparted is more gnome :)01:24
GrahamAnd sucks ass anyway.01:24
rich__so how would i go about doing so01:25
agn0sticnceterval: you can just change the names in /etc/apt/sources.list01:25
Grahamubuntu: What do you want to do to your drive?01:25
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nosrednaekim!XGL | rich__01:25
uboturich__: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:25
agn0sticnceterval: then apt-get update; apt-get upgrade01:25
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ncetervalagn0stic, There's no reason to use whatever fancy GUI Kubuntu have designed?01:25
Grahamubuntu: Hello?01:26
rich__thanks, and that should be step by step on how to install01:26
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sercikplease could someone do the following command "groups" and give me the output?? PLEASE!!!01:26
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agn0sticnceterval: i find it faster to do stuff from the command line most of the time, especially installing apps. If you want to use the gui, you can, but it's mainly a wrapper to the command line tools anyhow01:26
ncetervalagn0stic, What is the command to launch the GUI (for reference if nothing else)?01:27
nosrednaekimrich__: yeah... if not(or if you have problems) come back here01:27
Admiral_Chicagosercik: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin freddy01:27
Admiral_Chicagofreddy is my user name01:27
gnomI can't turn off my computer HELP01:27
agn0sticnceterval: idk. synaptic is one front-end to apt (assuming you're talking about the gui for upgrading)01:27
Grahamgnom: Unplug it.01:27
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gnomKubuntu gets stuck01:28
GrahamLoad it in recovery mode and do shutdown, see if any errors occour.01:28
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gnomThere is no error if I power it off from root konsole01:29
ncetervalagn0stic, Oh, I'm not looking for a package manger, there is apparently a frontend specifically for the Feisty upgrade (http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php).01:29
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ubuntuit wont let me format my disk01:29
sercikAdmiral_Chicago: thank you very much01:29
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ncetervalagn0stic, As I said, Adept indicated that it would launch it and then crashed.01:29
sercikhow can i add myself to all that groups??01:29
ubuntuany ideas on how to make it so that when i partition it it wont say that i cant change the partition size01:29
gnomunmount if first01:30
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ubuntuits my windows hard drive01:30
ubuntuits a 350 gig sata and has over 50 gigs free01:31
gnomyou need ntfs3g01:31
GrahamNo he doesn't.01:31
GrahamHe needs the ntfsutils01:31
GrahamSo you can resize it.01:31
gnomisn't installed by default01:31
gnomdo it from win01:31
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agn0sticnceterval: the command to launch adept should be "adept" without the quotes.01:32
Aloneawhat is the big difference between the dvd and the live cd?01:33
agn0sticnceterval: you could launch it from a terminal and look at the output when it crashes to try to determine the cause01:33
ubuntuso what should i do01:33
ubuntujust use partition magic?01:33
gnomubuntu: use knoppix if your win partitions dont work01:33
Daisuke_IdoAlonea: the number of included packages01:33
agn0sticnceterval: or just do the upgrade yourself, probably less painful if adepts crashing on you01:33
gnomntfs-fix --01:33
ubuntuwell heres a question01:34
Daisuke_Idognom: or how about just setting them up properly and not driving people away from ubuntu, mmmkay?01:34
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: ok. downloading disk for friend and he is on dialup.01:34
ubuntuwhats the partition type for kubuntu01:34
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: I should probably get him the dvd, yes?01:34
Daisuke_Idoubuntu: pretty much whatever you want01:34
ncetervalagn0stic, Right, I understand how to launch Adept...  it is my understanding that there is a seperate GUI tool used for the Feisty upgrade.01:34
Daisuke_IdoAlonea: that would be my recommendation01:34
ubuntuwhat would be reccomended01:34
ncetervalPerhaps I am mistaken01:34
Aloneaubuntu: most use ext301:34
ubuntuill use that01:34
Daisuke_Idoalmost anything :D01:35
ubuntutahnks alonea01:35
DragnslcrDoes Feisty run ntpdate on a set interval  by default, or do I have to manually add the cron job?01:35
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Aloneaubuntu: the live cd should make that by default01:35
Daisuke_Idoext3 is the most common, then reiser or ext2 probably01:35
Daisuke_Idoand vfat is good for cross-platform storage01:35
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: I doubt he would want to drag his computer to my house for decent internet all the time.01:35
Daisuke_Idoalthough it probably "violates microsoft's patents"01:35
agn0sticnceterval: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php makes it look like its done through adept. if it's launching another program, I have no clue what it would be, sorry.01:35
ncetervalagn0stic, Hmm, ok.  Thanks for your time.01:36
gnomscrew theri patents01:36
Admiral_ChicagoAlonea: the dvd has all of main on there01:36
AloneaAdmiral_Chicago: ok. hopefully this download doesn't take too long...01:36
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Daisuke_Idothe dvd is the best option, but it doesn't have universe...  as Admiral_Chicago just said and i should really pay more attention01:36
Admiral_Chicago:-) Alonea about as long as it takes a dvd to download01:37
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: well, he just wants to get his computer up at the moment with some stuff on it. He just built his own.01:37
AloneaAdmiral_Chicago: hehe. Well, he is supposed to come by in a couple hours for it. Worst case I give him Edgy Eft and he can get over it.01:38
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Daisuke_Idoooh, edgy-feisty upgrade over dialup01:38
Daisuke_Idothat's torture01:38
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sercikAdmiral_Chicago: thank you very much i have solved my problem01:39
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: well, he could always wait to upgrade and actually bring over computer to my house for relief...01:39
Admiral_Chicagotorrents work well for me. good speeds01:39
Admiral_Chicagosercik: my pleasure01:39
AloneaAdmiral_Chicago: oh! I dunno if you were there, but I found non network manager/knetwork manager option for WPA. It is a bit buggy, but it works01:40
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serciki can give a help to all people: if you lose root privileges and you can't use sudo command you can start kubuntu in alternate mode so you can give command as root01:40
Jack3can someone please help me with this http://pastebin.ca/49032801:40
AloneaAdmiral_Chicago: I had no idea that Wireless Assistant had a later version with it.01:40
Admiral_ChicagoAlonea: few people realize the power of torrents, I was getting 600 k/b down for Ubuntu Studio01:40
AloneaAdmiral_Chicago: I could try real fast01:40
Jack3anyone know?01:41
nosrednaekimJack3: go to "ctrl+alt+f2"01:41
Admiral_ChicagoJack3: recovery mode, sudo startx telss you what01:41
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Admiral_Chicagosorry i'm a bit excited :)01:42
Jack3i will have to reboot, im on the windows partition01:42
Jack3whats ctrl alt f2 do?01:42
Admiral_Chicagookay write down the last line and get back to me01:42
Admiral_Chicagoi may be afk01:42
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Admiral_ChicagoJack3: move to a tty01:42
nosrednaekimmoves to a command linee only console01:43
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Jack3when i tried recovery mode01:44
Jack3i put in my ass in sudo -s,and it said incorrect01:44
Jack3and i am POSITIVE it is01:44
dextroneok I just came back; when ever I try to install kubuntu 7; it locks up at "detecting filesystems 15%" any help01:44
dextronewould be nice01:44
nosrednaekimsudo -s?01:45
Jack3yeh, is that wrong?01:45
nosrednaekimno need to shout BTW...01:45
Jack3i think i tried sudo also01:46
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nosrednaekimI've never used the recovery mode myself,so i'm not sure what it does.01:46
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ardchoilleI guess I've been lucky with this distro.. I've never had to use recovery mode, never had a crash or problem.01:47
nosrednaekimyeah..me too... mut then I don'tdo Bit torrents...01:47
ardchoilleI take that back, the biggest problem I have had with this distro is how to change the kmenu icon, lol01:48
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nosrednaekimand Jack3's problem is anoyingly common.01:48
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nosrednaekimI've seen it at lest 2 times01:49
Daisuke_Idoif so it sounds liek a wine problem01:49
Daisuke_Idowith properly detecting free space01:49
nosrednaekimreally? I think its a problem with not enough diskspace01:50
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Daisuke_Idomy sarcasm detector's on the fritz :\01:50
dextroneany help for me with my install freezing at detecting file systems01:50
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: I wonder if that's just with the wine in the ubuntu repos. I had a lot less problems when I switched to theirs.01:51
Daisuke_IdoAlonea: i'm using .9.37 from the budgetdedicated repos and haven't had a problem01:51
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ardchoilleWhat's the status of the Clicn N Run stuff that I have heard about? How do I get it on my systems?01:52
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AloneaDaisuke_Ido: yeah, thats what I use too. fixed all of my previous problems with it. Its the one that isn't at budgetdedicated that I had a whole lotta problems with.01:53
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drknshow can i make ndiswrapper module to autoload at start up instead of writing modprobe ndiswrapper01:56
nosrednaekim"ndiswrapper -m"01:57
nosrednaekimor rather "sudo ndiswrapper -m"01:57
TheDebuggerI think you just have to write it in : /etc/modules01:57
nosrednaekimthats what that command does01:58
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drknsthank you01:58
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nosrednaekimyou're welcome01:59
drknstoday i tried to install kubuntu on a raid 0 set up but i failed01:59
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nosrednaekimdrkns: yeah you need the alternate installer for that.01:59
drknsit seems raid 0 is not an option01:59
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eduardohello who can help me with ubuntu apache asp net?! :'(01:59
drknsi tried it with alternate install cd01:59
nosrednaekimdrkm: ah... ok..01:59
drknsit is hard to decide whether i have hardware or software raid02:00
drknsmy laptop manual says it has hardware raid02:00
nosrednaekimlaptop? with RAID? WOAH!02:01
drknsbut kubuntu detected drives as seperate drives even though my fastrack 100 lite set the array02:01
drknsyes i was using winxp pro on raid 0 120g set up02:01
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nosrednaekimdrkns: your laptop has two drives?02:01
drknsthis is a 3 years old laptop and yes it has 2 drives 60gb 7200 rpm each02:02
Arwenwhoa, a dual-hard drive laptop?02:02
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ArwenI want one of t hose02:02
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nosrednaekimwow... that thing must really not have good battery life.02:02
drknsyep about 30 mins02:02
drknsheavy as well its 17 inch02:03
nosrednaekimbut it must be pretty fast with raded 7200 RPMS02:03
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drknsyes it was02:03
drknsnow i am on kubuntu its kind of sluggish02:03
drknsno raid02:03
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nosrednaekimjust one drive?02:03
nosrednaekimI mean.. its just istalled on one drive.02:03
drknsstill two drive but both are on ide now not raid 0 array02:04
drknsyes it is installed on one kubuntu installers always see the drives as two seperate drive02:04
nosrednaekimok. well.. I've never done a RAID install so I really can't hepl02:04
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drknsno problem02:04
AloneaAdmiral_Chicago: *grins* friend is gonan bring compy over since he has noooo idea what he is doing. He is a linux newb and he wants windows on their too. Know anything about getting SBC dialup to work with kubuntu?02:04
drknsso far it seems impossible or there is one way but its not efficient02:05
ArwenAlonea, eh? dialup? does he have a real modem or a winmodem?>02:05
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AloneaArwen: hell if I know. He just built this comp from the ground up. All he knows is that the software they gave him is only for win/mac. Not to mention I have not had dialup in years and know nothing about it anymore02:07
nosrednaekimhopefully its an intel...02:07
ArwenAlonea, hehe, so it is a winmodem :-)02:08
Arwentoo bad, poor guy won't be able to use the Internet02:08
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Daisuke_Idoare winmodems still THAT bad in linux?02:08
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, winmodems are bad. Period.02:09
Daisuke_Idoi would think by now someone would have macgyvered something02:09
drknsthey are bad in windoz as well02:09
nosrednaekimbut if its an intel, he might be OK.02:09
AloneaArwen: I guess not. but this is the software they gave to him for the old computer. what is the difference between the two?02:09
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Arwennosrednaekim, Intel winmodems don't work with the latest kernels (feisty, anyone?)02:09
AloneaArwen: a winmodem and a modem? like, is the win the one built inside the computer and the modem the outside box thing?02:09
Daisuke_IdoAlonea: winmodems have most functions controlled via software rather than hardware is how i understand it02:10
ArwenAlonea, a winmodem is a fake modem build into the motherboard or a PCI-* slot. It's like fakeraid (it sucks).02:10
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ArwenModems are either expensive internal cards with fancy logic circuits or boxes that attach via serial port.02:10
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto02:10
AloneaArwen: I honestly don't know what he actually has in his box at all internet wise.02:11
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ArwenAlonea, probably a winmodem then :-)02:11
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AloneaArwen: like I said, know nothing at all about dialup. He might be getting dsl as soon as he can afford it02:12
Arwenyay for him :-)02:12
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ArwenAlonea, anyway point him to !dialup :-)02:12
Jack3hey guys02:12
Jack3anyone here still?02:12
nosrednaekimwhich will be a heck of a lot sooner if you make it painfull02:12
Jack3im booted into kubuntu live cd02:12
nosrednaekimyeppers JAck302:13
Jack3any ideas what to do now02:13
AloneaArwen: the big problem for the longest time was that where he lives, his only choice was dialup or satellite, which is my area, is worse than dialup02:13
Jack3i wasnt able to successful login to root02:13
Jack3it just said it was wrong pass02:13
nosrednaekimJack3: yep.02:13
ArwenAlonea, ouch :-\02:13
nosrednaekimdo a "sudo chroot <your hd partion with linux on it>" that is after you have mounted that partition02:13
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AloneaArwen: his house was like 2 blocks from the line for I think cable internet. they finally extended it farther out02:14
Jack3how do i know what hd i mounted on?02:14
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Jack3i dunno02:14
ArwenToo bad really, I'm waiting for fiber to reach my place. Then again, since this is the U.S., that might not happen till after I die.02:14
nosrednaekimJack3: ok... do a "sudo fdisk /dev/hda" and then "p"02:14
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nosrednaekimoyu only have one HD right?02:15
nosrednaekimJack3 that will tell you what your linux partition.02:15
Jack3it saysunable to open/dev/hda02:15
AloneaArwen: heh. I am lucky to have cable.02:15
nosrednaekimJack3: is it a SATA disc?02:15
Jack3no, its  alaptop02:15
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Jack3well, i guess i dont actulal know if its sata02:16
Jack3but i doubt it02:16
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nosrednaekimJack3: is it a recent laptop?02:16
ArwenJack3, that was rather a non-sequitur... what's the fact that it's a laptop have to do with SATA?02:16
Jack3i thought my hardrive waas called sda1 before02:17
nosrednaekimwell its probably got SATA then.02:17
nosrednaekimso its sata..02:17
ArwenJack3, sda? probably SATA then02:17
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Jack3so now what?02:17
nosrednaekimok.... do a "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"02:17
drknsbyz ppl02:18
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nosrednaekimand then a "sudo chroot /mnt"02:19
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nosrednaekimdo NOT close that konsole02:19
Jack3it says02:19
Jack3chroot /mnt02:19
Jack3chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory02:19
Daisuke_Idois there an equivalent to EAC for linux?02:19
nosrednaekimthey got of chroot in the newest kubuntu? WTH?02:20
nosrednaekimno... I have it...02:20
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nosrednaekimyou sure you put a sudo b4 it?02:21
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: EAC?02:21
Jack3i just did sudo -s02:21
Random_Transithey, does anyone here know how to set KDE up to accept VNC connections?02:21
nosrednaekimwhts the -s do?02:21
Daisuke_IdoJack3: you're better off following directions exactly, better results, probably02:21
Jack3its to input the pass so you stay as root02:21
Jack3anyways, i tried sudo chroot /mnt02:22
Jack3same result02:22
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX02:22
nosrednaekimwait a sec... it says it can't run bash... that means it can't run bash from WITHIN your linux install....02:22
Daisuke_Idonosrednaekim: EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is a cd ripper that does extensive error correction for a perfect bit-for-bit copy02:22
Jack3how do i unmount the sda1/02:23
nosrednaekimJack3: why?02:23
Jack3cause i want to move it to a folder konqueror can view02:23
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nosrednaekim go into konquror and type "/mnt" in the location bar02:23
Daisuke_Idoi'm using kaudiocreator for now, it copies quite nicely, but doesn't play well with some scratched discs02:23
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nosrednaekimscratched discs don't play well ... Perios..lol02:24
Jack3it doesnt have the permissions to acess it02:24
Jack3it need root access02:24
Jack3and konqueror wont start in root02:24
Hirvinen!root > Jack302:25
Jack3yeh i tried sudo konqueror02:25
Jack3i just get a bunch of errors02:25
nosrednaekimdo "kdesu konqueror"02:25
Daisuke_Idoi'm not talking about gouges, i'm talking about little scratches that might cause a skip here and there.02:25
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nosrednaekimnot sudo...KDESU02:25
nosrednaekimits different02:25
Jack3i just get an error about cannot connect to X server02:25
Jack3using kdesu as well02:26
nosrednaekimoh.. ok..02:26
Jack3well, how do i unmount it02:26
nosrednaekim well.. navigate to /mnt in a konsole with "cd /mnt"02:26
nosrednaekimyou CAN unmount it with "sudo umount /mnt" But please don't yet.02:26
Jack3hgmm wrong hdd02:27
Jack3thats my windows partition02:27
Jack3so we might as well unmount02:27
Jack3im assumin linux is sda2?02:27
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Jack3or sda002:27
nosrednaekimno wonder it couldn'tfind bash02:27
nosrednaekimsda 2 I'd be betting on02:27
Daisuke_IdoJack3: probably 202:27
Daisuke_Idonosrednaekim: http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/en/index.php/overview/features/features-of-eac/02:28
Jack3lolnope, tahts the recovery partition02:28
Daisuke_Idosda3 for the win!02:28
nosrednaekimof couse.. that could be swap with our luck02:29
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Daisuke_Idoswap before / ?02:29
Jack3sda 3 has more windows things02:29
Jack3wtf o.002:29
nosrednaekimJack3: do a "sudo fdisk /dev/sda1"02:30
nosrednaekimthen "p"02:30
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Daisuke_Idoneed something a little stronger here02:30
nosrednaekimthat'll tell you what partion linux is on02:30
nosrednaekimlike aspirin cubed?02:30
Jack3im at a Command line02:30
Jack3not the normal shell02:31
nosrednaekimit;ll still work.02:31
Jack3no, like thats what happened when i did fdisk02:31
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: Ibuprofen in my drug of choice. girl's best friend02:31
Daisuke_Idotylenol-3 (tylenol + codeine)02:31
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: heh. bet that is good too.02:32
nosrednaekimJack3: what did it do?02:32
Daisuke_Idomakes ya feel gooooood02:32
Daisuke_Idoanyway, back to the situation at hand02:32
AloneaDaisuke_Ido: I just like the pain going completely away very quickly02:32
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Daisuke_Idothat wasn't very nice02:33
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lascarkubuntu froze while upgrading to feisty.  Now it locks whenever I try to boot into it; I can't even get to any sort of console.  Any ideas?02:33
Daisuke_IdoJack3: so what's the problem?02:33
Jack3that doesnt seem to telll me where linux is installed :P02:33
nosrednaekimJack3: ok..put a p and hit enter02:33
Daisuke_Idohe said press p :)02:34
nosrednaekimlascar: umm.... get a fiesty Cd, get you files off and reinstall02:34
Jack3i forgot p :P02:34
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Jack3so im confused which of those is linux02:36
Daisuke_Idoum...  sudo fdisk /dev/sda maybe02:36
Daisuke_Idonot sda102:36
Jack3also im disturbed by the netware one having 0 blocks02:36
hangthedjif you just do sudo fdisk -l it will list all partitions and filetypes02:36
nosrednaekimoh wait... did I say sda1? lol... my bad.02:37
Jack3ah its sda502:37
nosrednaekimhangthedj: thats nice to know02:37
Jack3thx hang02:37
nosrednaekimok.. do the chrot thingy on sda502:37
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lascarnosrednaekim: i should be able to glean important files from a dapper live cd, no?02:39
Jack3okay now what02:40
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lascarand if i can do that, couldn't i just finish the upgrade?02:40
Jack3that didnt really do anything02:40
nosrednaekimlascar: yeah... you chould02:40
nosrednaekimnow... as long as you didn't close that terminal... you are now in your linux installation02:40
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nosrednaekimnow...go into /home/<your username>02:41
Jack3yeh, there02:41
nosrednaekimdid you try to delete the large file you DL?02:41
Jack3well they arent there02:42
Jack3but wheres the trash folder02:42
nosrednaekimok... ".local"02:43
nosrednaekimor rather .local/share/Trash02:43
Arwenon GNOME, it's .Trash02:44
Jack3yeh im there02:44
Arwenyou'd think they could agree on something that simple :-\02:44
Jack3just like 1mb worth of files02:44
Daisuke_Idotsk tsk02:44
Jack3and konqueror still shows 0b free for the linux partition02:44
Jack3what is going on!02:44
Daisuke_Idowe say fsck02:44
nosrednaekimrun a "df"02:44
Arwen!terminal | Jack302:44
ubotuJack3: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal02:44
Daisuke_Idoand if it's read only, it would show 0b free wouldn't it?02:45
nosrednaekimthat'll tell you if konquror is right02:45
ArwenDaisuke_Ido, no02:45
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Daisuke_Idoworth a shot02:45
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Jack3sounds right02:46
nosrednaekimok.. its full.02:46
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Jack3i deleted 800mb or so of files02:46
Jack3something is wrong02:46
ArwenJack3, this a live CD?02:46
nosrednaekimdid you delete them as root?02:46
Jack3i just emptied the trashbin before a rebooted02:46
Daisuke_IdoArwen: chroot environment02:46
nosrednaekimand did you delete them from the command line or konqueror?02:46
Jack3but they arent in the trashbin, and they arent in there folder02:47
Jack3so i dunno where they would be02:47
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ArwenDaisuke_Ido, that might be it02:47
nosrednaekimlook in " /home/.Trash-0"02:47
Jack3no such file/dir02:48
Daisuke_Idoif he did it as root...  does kubuntu use /root for root's home?02:48
nosrednaekimyeah... it does..but he went to HIS home dir.02:48
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nosrednaekimunless of course he delete those files as root.02:49
nosrednaekimJack3: run a "find file" on "/mnt" for the file name of the big file you DL.02:50
Jack3i dont remember it :X02:50
nosrednaekimJack3: lol..02:50
Jack3im using konqueror to check the size of all thefolders in / to see if they add up02:50
Jack3and see which one has the most02:51
Daisuke_Idoapt-get clean is another option to see if he can actually clear space or if there's something more serious, i dunno, maybe?  again, i'm just pulling ideas from my nether-regions02:51
nosrednaekimdid you delete the file as root?02:52
nosrednaekimthat file is still around me thinks.02:52
Jack3i just it through kde02:52
Jack3i just clicked empty taskbin02:52
Jack3err trashbin02:52
nosrednaekimwhat was the file?02:52
nosrednaekimdid you send it to trash?02:52
Daisuke_Idolook in /tmp as well02:53
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Jack3um this is bad02:53
Jack3total = 5gb02:53
Jack3it says i have 11.6gb used02:53
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dopehow do i know what user php is running under02:54
dopei have ubuntu server edition02:54
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: look at his pastebin.... something is definately funny with it...02:54
nosrednaekimit says the kernel modules ahev 11 GB allocated to them.02:54
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nosrednaekimyeah... some thing is definately weird with that.02:55
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nosrednaekimthis is what it SHOULD look like http://pastebin.ca/49046202:56
dopehow do i know what user php is running under02:56
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Jack3whats goin on02:57
nosrednaekimeverything should not be %10002:57
nosrednaekimI have never see this Jack302:57
jhutchins_ltJack3: May I suggest that you reboot?02:57
nosrednaekimgo over to #linux.02:57
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nosrednaekimmaybe they can help over there.02:57
jhutchins_ltNote that everything also has the same size and usage.02:57
nosrednaekimhe's in a Live cd, chrooted.02:57
nosrednaekimI know02:58
nosrednaekimweird eh?02:58
MATADIOthe whole partition thing isnt working02:58
MATADIOand now my windows is messed up02:58
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mofohave a question about kmail and adding a vcard to my email  :-S02:59
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jhutchins_ltquestion is unanswerable unless stated.03:00
nosrednaekimwell Jack3: I have to go... I hope someone else can solve your problem03:00
Jack3:( thx03:00
MATADIOi need help partitioning03:00
mofohow does one add a vcard contact info, to kmail..03:00
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jhutchins_ltmofo: I've had trouble importing apple vcards...03:01
jhutchins_ltmofo: Try this: save the file.03:01
mofoI/m trying to write a email, and send a vcard threw kmail to my client.03:01
jhutchins_ltmofo: Ok, right click on contact, choose Send Contact.03:02
MATADIOIf you can help with partitioning, query me!03:03
mofohmm, right click on contact, and send contact info03:03
jhutchins_ltmofo: in kaddressbook.03:04
mofocan that be done threw kmail ??03:04
jhutchins_ltwell, yeah, open the addressbook in kmail - that's kaddressbook.03:05
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MATADIOcan i get help with partitioning03:06
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jhutchins_ltMATADIO: Possibly.  What help do you want.03:07
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jordo23Has anyone been having problems with Ktorrent?  Ktorrent seems to work fine, but some time within a half an hour it crashes and I get a KDE Trace Crash box....03:09
MATADIOi want to dual partition my drive so i can run windows and kde, sounds simple but its not working03:09
MATADIOand it killed my windows03:09
jordo23MATADIO: I ran dual boot Windows/Kubuntu....what's the problem?03:09
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MATADIOi cant get it to work03:12
MATADIOit wont let me resize the windows partition03:12
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jordo23MATADIO: Using QT parted?03:14
jhutchins_ltMATADIO: What tool are you using?03:14
jordo23MATADIO: Should be able to.....you may want to install windows and set the partition size smaller that way...03:14
jordo23MATADIO: That way when you install Kubuntu it can install to unpartitioned space....03:15
jhutchins_ltIf it doesn't talk, we eats it.03:17
Coldwar55Is there a way to change between embedded movie players?03:17
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david2ugh I need to figure out how to get more signal strenght from my wireless router03:18
jordo23Coldwar55: You can right-click on the player itself and change it in the configure menu....between Xine, Mplayer, and Gstreamer (if installed) I believe...03:18
Coldwar55Because I installed Mplayer03:18
Coldwar55Then I installed Totem03:18
Coldwar55And I seriously dislike totem03:18
Coldwar55because it messes with the colors03:19
jordo23Coldwar55: When the player is open, hover over the menu and right-click, do you see a 'configure' menu?03:19
Coldwar55In the Browser Window?03:19
jordo23Coldwar55: Yeah.....but I have only tested this solution in a separate open browser embedded video...03:20
Coldwar55Well no I don't03:20
Coldwar55All I get is03:20
Coldwar55About and open Movie in player03:20
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Coldwar55And copy location03:20
Coldwar55Using FireFox03:20
jordo23Coldwar55: Try opening it to a separate player...then repeat03:20
Coldwar55Nope nothing in Totem that has Configure03:21
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Dekkardscuse me.. what is the name of the package that enables mp3 playback with aRts(noatun etc)?03:23
Coldwar55Maybe I should just remove Totem all together03:23
Coldwar55Since it gives horribly play back quality03:23
TheDebuggerDekkard: libxine-extracodecs i think03:24
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Dekkard already have that installed noatun wont play mp3.. just ogg03:25
jgibbarcan someone help me with packages03:25
Coldwar55Thanks anyways jordor2303:25
Coldwar55I'll just remove totem03:25
dopei have a php script that writes a file and I it will not write the file.  permission problem and i can't narrow it down03:25
jgibbaradept manager keeps telling me that the database is locked03:26
Lam_i'm trying to install fglrx 8.36.5 and i followed the guide on cchtml down to the dot but am still getting mesa03:26
david2anyone use a repeater?03:26
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lascarjgibbar: run adept as root03:28
jgibbarI don't currently but I have in the past david203:28
jgibbarwhat do I type after kdesu in the run prompt for adept03:29
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jgibbarnever mind I ran adept as root and I get this message "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."03:30
jgibbarI have already tried to reboot and I  can't find anything else running03:31
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:31
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jgibbarok now adept won't start, I copying your text and just pasted it into konsole03:34
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steffenis there a firewall installed when i install linux?03:35
nosrednaekimjgibbar: hmmm ok.03:35
nosrednaekimthat was the bots text.03:35
Arwensteffen, yes, but not enabled by default03:35
Arwen!iptables | steffen03:35
ubotusteffen: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).03:35
david2need to wait on this03:35
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jgibbaranyone have any Ideas, should I just try to reboot again?03:36
steffenArwen: thanks.03:36
nosrednaekimjgibbar: yeah maybe you should try that again.03:36
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dsmith_Even Bill Gates recommends Ubuntu...   http://www.fayerwayer.com/up/2007/04/bill_gates_ubuntu_mini.jpg03:38
Lam_lol that's awesome03:39
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jgibbarOk the reboot lets adept run again thanks for all the help03:40
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dsmith_im puting that in my consulting folder03:41
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thumperanyone using beryl?03:41
dsmith_i do03:41
jgibbarone more thing I have been trouble finding libdvdcss2 any suggestions on that?03:41
thumperI had all my window title bars go grey and unselectable03:42
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ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs03:42
thumpercould move any windows03:42
thumperor change virtual desktops of them03:42
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ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:42
nosrednaekimthumper: ok....you don't have a compositiing windows manager..03:42
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thumpernosrednaekim: ??03:43
nosrednaekimdo you have an nvidia card? or an ATI?03:43
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Arwendamn guarddog is confusing03:44
thumpernosrednaekim: using intel03:44
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ltmoni can't seem to set my SSH_ASKPASS environment variable.  I've tried putting "export SSH_ASKPASS=blah" in .xsession, .xinitrc, .bashrc, .bash_login -- but no matter what it doesn't seem to be recognized, "echo $SSH_ASKPASS" is blank and it's not in the output of "export".  Anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong?03:47
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nosrednaekimthumper: ok....how did you start beryl?03:48
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intelikeyhmmm i installed windows on my hdc  and now that disk wont boot.     it says not a valid boot disk03:50
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routhI need help anyone not busy?03:51
intelikeyso it did write to the mbr but didn't make it bootable    errr made it unbootable.   could boot grub there befor03:51
nosrednaekimrouth: ask away03:51
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goatanyone want to help a dumbass ( namely me ) get google earth installed?03:51
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routhI did an update after a fresh install of kubuntu dapper and now I don't have any access permissions to usb drives03:52
intelikeyhitmanWilly likes helping that type goat03:52
routhI can't figure out why it won't give me access...03:52
thumpernosrednaekim: not running it right now, rebooted03:52
nosrednaekimhow DID you start it?03:52
thumpernosrednaekim: but I think I started it using beryl-manager from the command line03:53
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nosrednaekimthumper: ok...first you have to start "beryl"03:53
nosrednaekimand THEN beryl-manager03:53
goathitmanWilly: you like helping dumbies?  I am trying to show my mom her house on google earth real quick03:53
intelikeyquote even03:53
goatfigured it would be in adept... I was wrong03:54
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intelikeyaw man grub is not installed.  so i don't guess i will just reinstall grub on that drive03:56
routhnosrednaekim: I did an update on kubuntu and now I can't access any usbdisk drives that are inserted - says I don't have access permissions - because the drive is an NTFS it won't let me chmod as it's a RO filesystem - and messing with fstab has proved unusefil. But befreo the update it worked perfect, I can't firgure what the update changed..03:56
nosrednaekimdo you have "fuse" and ntfs-3g installed?03:57
intelikeygoat the hitman said you have to go to google and dl the installer03:57
hitmanWillygoat: you have to go to google itself and download the installer, feisty's commercial repos still haven't been filled up yet03:58
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goatintelikey  thank you03:58
goatand hitman willy as well03:58
goatI am sorry for not searching more03:58
goatmoms just trying to get to bed03:58
goatand knew you guys would not stear me wrong03:58
goatI was right03:58
goatTHANK YOU03:58
routhnosrednaekim: was that fuse and ntfs-3g meant for me?04:00
nosrednaekimrouth: yeah... sorry04:00
routhlemme check04:00
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routhlibfuse - fuse-utils - which do you mean? I don't see a plain 'fuse package - at any rate none of those are installed04:03
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nosrednaekimyeah.. I think you need both of those... as well as ntfs-3g04:05
nosrednaekimrouth: ^^04:05
steffencan i get a list of ports that are used? (ex. 83464          eggdrop)04:05
routhnosrednaekim: nothing ntfs related is installed either - which is weird since it worked before - I can't find an "ntfs-3g" just ntfsprogs and ntfstools04:05
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:05
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routhnosredneakim: I should mention I'm on kubuntu dapper04:06
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intelikeypossably back-ports  but not in the main *verse dapper repos04:07
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nosrednaekimok... yeah I guess so.04:08
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kristjan_Do I understand it correctly - http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php - you can install kde4 safely alongside kde3.5?04:08
Jucatokristjan_: yes04:09
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gnomefreakdefine safely04:09
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gnomefreakcrashes are likely with kde4 so safely isnt the word i would use.04:11
kristjan_gnomefreak: won't screw my existing kde04:11
intelikeyyeah    safe ?    safe as in a safty deposit box,   or safe as in safe sex ?04:11
gnomefreakkristjan_: no it shouldnt04:11
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kristjan_intelikey: I can't see similarities between desktop and sex?04:11
gnomefreakyou must have never seen my backgrounds than :)04:12
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hitmanWillywow, kristjan_, how long have you been hanging around linux users?04:12
intelikeykristjan_ good for you04:12
goatintelikey and hitmanwilley   thanks again  I am rocking and rolling with google earth now04:12
goatshe ( my mom ) has never seen anything so interesting as google earth before04:13
intelikeygoat   sorry for any confusion.    and you're welcome04:13
jgibbarI tried everything you pointed me to for dvd playback but I still get this message with gxine <<No demuxer found - stream format not recognised>>04:13
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goatLOL   my mom just said to (type thank you for me too)04:13
gnomefreakjgibbar: make sure you have all libxine packages installed and you use regionset04:13
intelikeygreexen sounds good.04:13
gnomefreakor whatever its called04:13
gnomefreakout ;)04:14
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kristjan_hmm, it seems installing kde4 requires removing apport04:21
MurcimiRiAm28hola a tod@s04:21
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jgibbargnomefreak: still did not work, tired of fooling with it, too hungry I will try later, thanks though, so far beats the crap out of vista04:22
kristjan_When do I have to run "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib" http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php04:22
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dsmith__google earth is sweet04:23
dsmith__worth the effort to install04:24
dsmith__in if its ported04:24
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dsmith__evn if04:24
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PsiKloPxI just switched over from PCLinux0S to Kubuntu (dual booting with Windows MC) and am having problems getting beryl to work.  no errors.  Just nothing changes.  Any ideas?04:25
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kristjan_PsiKloPx: #ubuntu-effects04:27
Jack3i just fixed my 0bytes free problem04:28
Jack3but now theres something new04:28
goatok  moms in bed now...04:28
kristjan_Jucato: do I have to run "export" commands if I choose to create "kde4" login in kdm?04:28
ironcladlouusing kubuntu feisty, every new window i open (no matter what the application) appears in the lower left of my screen. what gives?04:28
Jack3the swap file partition says it cant mount when i try to boot up04:28
Jack3any idea on how to fix that04:28
goatwhats the best channel to help me install the ATI mobility 9000 drivers04:28
Jucatokristjan_: the instructions are on that page. you'd have to include the export commands in a config file (forgot which)04:29
goatNOTE: no protected driver manager in Kubuntu04:29
hitmanWillygoat: follow the edgy (6.10) instructions, they should still work for feisty04:31
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intelikeyjack3  you might format it again.    sudo mkswap /dev/<the device node>04:32
goathitmanwilley: sorry to be thick headed. where are these docs?04:32
goatI can't seem to phrase my searches well tonight04:32
Jucato!ati | goat04:32
ubotugoat: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:32
goatand end up all over04:32
Jack3intelikey, will that ruin my linux install?04:32
goatthank you yet again04:32
goatyou guys are great04:32
intelikeyjack3 not if you input the correct devicenode.      sudo fdisk -l    to see the partition tables04:33
intelikeyjack3 do you need swap ?04:33
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Jack3i duno04:34
Jack3its sda604:34
david2how you get ut2004 working 64 bit?04:34
Jack3Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 1052798 kB04:35
Jack3no label, UUID=8d55bcf1-de70-4161-8f1d-d057ef689ca04:35
goatshould I still follow the advice about NOT installing the control panel.. or have the bugs been worked out?04:35
Jack3does that mean it worked?04:35
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intelikeyjack3 blkid   and see what sda6 is now   and then set it accordingly in /etc/fstab04:36
intelikeyassuming your swap is ran through fstab....04:36
david2libstdc++.so.5 ?? what package is that?04:36
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david2libstdc++5 or libstdc++5-3.3-dev ??04:37
vbgunzI just bought a new hard drive. I would like to move everything Linux/Kubuntu from the smaller hard drive to the bigger one. Anyone have a good idea how to start?04:37
intelikeydavid2 i would assume  libstdc++5    yes.    i only have  libstdc++604:37
Jucatodavid2: installed the package "build-essential"?04:38
Jack3whathe command line text editror?04:38
david2 i did04:38
Jack3intelikey, do i need to change this /dev/sda6 swap swap defaults 0 004:38
Jack3alrite, i guess ill try to restart04:39
intelikeyjack3 only if it was using the blkid and the blkid changes with a reformat04:39
vbgunzI know I would need to make 3 partitions on the new drive. 1 for /, swap and /home. *but* what else should I do? I know I need to tell grub but anything else, anyone?04:39
intelikeyso short answer   no04:39
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kristjan_Jucato: you were right, insctuction about export are in the end of the article04:40
Jack3okay thx04:40
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intelikeyvbgunz the installer will make the partitions   just make free unallocated space and go.04:40
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vbgunzintelikey: sorry. I already installed Kubuntu a year ago. I just bought a bigger hard drive and don't want to reinstall. I want to *move* everything linux/Kubuntu off off that one drive and onto the bigger one. I need to edit, fstab and grub and move? is that all?04:41
intelikeyah  a migration.04:42
vbgunzI guess you can say that :)04:42
kristjan_Jucato: could you please look at your /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde - are the "export" lines at very top of the file, or after "#!/bin/sh"?04:42
Jucatokristjan_: I don't have kde4 installed04:43
intelikeyvbgunz then   sudo fdisk -l     and see what partitions the old disk is using and set the new one accordingly04:43
vbgunzintelikey, yes. I was going to do that. but to make it successful, I edit fstab and grub. is that all?04:43
kristjan_can the  "export" lines be placed at the _very_ top of #!/bin/sh ?04:44
Jucatokristjan_: but mostly everything comes after #!/bin/sh04:44
intelikey /boot/grub/devices.list04:44
intelikeyerr tab complete that ^04:44
intelikeyi don't think it's plural04:44
Jucatokristjan_: or rather, all shell scripts must begin with #!/bin/sh (called the shebang)04:44
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hitmanWillyor #!/bin/bash, #!/bin/csh, #!/bin/ksh, etc :)04:45
Jucatoyeah, well... :)04:46
jamesdoes anyone know how to bandwidth throttle users using my ubuntu server as a router?04:46
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intelikeyvbgunz yes if grub can boot it   and the root is set to the correct device node that snould be all you need04:46
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kristjan_Jucato: I think this is ok then http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1268/pilt2je0.png ?04:46
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Jucatokristjan_: looks ok to me, if that's what the instructions say. oh and next time, you could just use a pastebin to show text :)04:47
Jucato!pastebin | kristjan_04:47
ubotukristjan_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:47
bassgoonhey I put in the dvd, and selected install, its an older 1.2ghz celeron with 512mb of ram...but it seems to be taking a LONG time to load04:47
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intelikeyhitmanWilly heh or   #!/usr/bin/expect -e04:48
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bassgoonthere it goes04:48
bassgoonbut it says user no known to the underlying authentication module04:48
bassgoonis that normal...?04:48
hitmanWillybassgoon: live cd's/dvd's always take awhile04:49
bassgoonit says failed to read block"04:49
bassgoonand failed to read page04:49
bassgoonsound like a bad disc?04:49
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bassgoonwell...the data verification passed...04:49
intelikeyshould  be a disk test option04:49
intelikeyyeah that04:50
hitmanWillymd5's are not foolproof04:50
bassgoonit passed neros verification04:50
bassgoonwhen it burned04:50
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hitmanWillybad img download possibly as well04:50
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kristjan_haha, it crashed after 4secs I logged in04:50
bassgoontook so dang long to dl04:50
bassgoonmaybe I'll just try the cd04:50
intelikeybassgoon no.  on the disk it's self,  one boot option is   test this disk ?04:50
bassgoonI'm trying it04:51
intelikeyor verify this disk04:51
bassgoonthis maky take some time...04:51
bassgoonwell thanks for helping an impatient noob :p04:51
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bassgoonwhat's the difference between an 'alternate' and a 'desktop' iso?04:52
kristjan_bassgoon: alternate doesn't have livecd04:52
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bassgoonso if I just want to install...04:52
Jucatobassgoon: Desktop CD = Live CD with graphical installer04:52
JucatoAlternate Install CD = text-based installer with more advanced options04:53
intelikeyhey at least we didn't do you like the call in support on most things anymore.    they put talking to a machine for at least 5 minutes.   not because they are all busy, oh no. it's so you will cool off and not bless them out...04:53
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bassgoonI can probably swing the text based one04:53
bassgoonnot a total noob04:53
eye_Does anyone know anything about gtkmm?04:53
Jucatoeye_: try if there's a #gtk channel?04:54
bassgoondoes kubuntu usually recognize all the devices on older dell laptops?04:54
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Hatsuyukithe text mode installer is easy peasy even if you ARE a noob (back when I first tried kubuntu (breezy) there was only text installer)04:54
bassgoonHatsuyuki, I've tried a lot of crazy linux distros before04:54
eye_Jucato, yes! thank you!04:54
bassgoonI tried gentoo 64, and fc3 x6404:55
Jucatooh 64-bit...04:55
Hatsuyukiwouldnt call (k)ubuntu crazy personally but I <3 it sooo... lol04:55
bassgoonHatsuyuki, no I wouldn't either04:55
bassgoonfc3 x64 and 2006.1 gentoo x6404:55
hitmanWillybassgoon: u should have np04:55
intelikeyHatsuyuki some would04:55
bassgoonwhat about linksys wireless cards04:55
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Hatsuyukitrue, intelikey04:56
daniHi! Quick question, I installed ssh, and my public IP is
intelikey(crazy) that would be in  #ubuntu    this is #kubuntu we say (krazy) in here...  :)04:56
Hatsuyukivery true04:57
bassgoonin #ubuntu wouldn't it be grazy?04:57
Hatsuyukilol, could be04:57
daniI tried to connect from my job, an Internal Network. I get into the login screen (konsole) somehow my authentication credentials never works...04:57
dani... am I missing something?04:57
bassgoonintelikey, there you go04:57
Hatsuyukiindeed (not that I have a problem with gtk apps tho)04:58
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bassgoonis a 1.2ghz celeron a more likely candidate for xubuntu?04:58
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intelikeydani using a password or a key04:58
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kristjan_nah, I'll try kde4 with that livecd instead04:58
Dhraakellian$ glxgears04:58
DhraakellianXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:58
DhraakellianError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual04:58
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daniwhat? I'm sorry I didn't catch you intelikey....04:59
Jucatokristjan_: much better if you just want to preview it. installing KDE 4 at this point is still for developers04:59
hitmanWillybassgoon: you should be alright, this isn't M$ software here04:59
intelikeybassgoon why ?      i run kubuntu on a p1mmx 100mhz04:59
HatsuyukiI've used all three k/x/ubuntu on a 500 mhz athalon mp so it's more a matter of taste, bassgoon04:59
bassgoonI know i like kde more04:59
kristjan_Jucato: yeah it just crashes, but those new icons are nice :)04:59
intelikeydani your auth method   password or ssh-key04:59
bassgoonyou can easily make it behave like windows explorer ;)04:59
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ober0nehow do you go about mounting an ntfs drive in feisty?05:00
eye_Jucato, nobody wants to help me :(05:00
bassgoonober0ne, personally I avoid mounting ntfs from linux...05:00
daniHi! Quick question, I installed ssh, and my public IP is  I tried to connect from my job, an Internal Network. I get into the login screen (konsole) somehow my authentication credentials never works...05:00
ober0neI understand that05:00
Jucatoeye_: did they say that? or is it just because no one replies? big difference there05:00
HatsuyukiI dont know ober0ne, I have no ntfs drives05:00
Dhraakellianhmm... correct monitor (IBM 6557 P92), correct graphics card (geforce2 with proprietary drivers)05:01
hitmanWillyober0ne: either as type ntfs, (read-only), or with ntfs-3g (rw)05:01
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intelikeydani i saw that.    are you "typing in a password"   or using an ssh-key for the authentication ?05:01
ober0neI just got the 3g package a few minutes ago, but I can't seem to find where it installed to05:01
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hitmanWillyober0ne: just mount it normal w/ type ntfs-3g05:02
GWillakersdani, what's the pw, i'll try from here! :)05:02
ober0neok, so how do I do that?05:02
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ober0newhat command do I enter in the terminal?05:02
ober0nesudo mount sda1?05:02
intelikeyGWillakers heh  i though of that...05:02
Hatsuyukiober0ne: you can check in adept/synaptic where it installed to05:02
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eye_Jucato. Sorry, no one replies. I don't speak English very well, so I say that because it's too hard for me to explain me05:03
hitmanWillyober0ne: mount -t ntfs-3g </device> </mount/point>05:03
ober0nehow do I know my mountpoint?05:03
GWillakersI'm jazzed... there was a samba update today that fixed all of my networking problems!!05:03
hitmanWilly!mount | ober0ne05:03
ubotuober0ne: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter05:03
Jucatoeye_: well, this is IRC support. just because no one replies doesn't mean they don't "want" to help. it just means that 1) no one there to read your questions (lots of people just lurk around), 2) those who can read it don't know the answer05:04
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse05:04
intelikeysudo mount -o fmask=111,dmask=000 -t ntfs-3g </dev/device-node> </mount/point>05:04
intelikeyeye_ you might find a support channel that talks your tongue05:05
eye_Ok, Jucato, I Know, I'm so sorry, you know what it happen05:05
eye_Jucato, I know that www.gtkmm.org exists, but all is in English, so I don't understand05:05
Jucatoah, well... sorry couldn't help you out05:06
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intelikey!es | eye_05:07
ubotueye_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:07
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eye_intelikey, yes, but nobody knows about that, thank you, and you many times had help me and never says me that I don't speak English05:09
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intelikeyeye_ we do what we can.      and your english is better than mine sometimes05:11
ober0nethanks... got it running05:11
ober0neno reason now for me to ever go back to windoze!05:12
ober0ne*maniacal laugh*05:12
intelikeywasn't in the first place...05:12
Hatsuyukigrats, ober0ne05:12
Jack3_hey guys05:12
Jack3_small rpoblme05:12
Jack3_the swap isnt mountin still05:13
ober0nethanks to vlc, I can watch DVD's, listen to all my music, and thanks to you guys I can still use my windows partition05:13
ober0neI love you guys05:13
intelikeyJack3_ can you enable it manually ?05:13
Hatsuyukidid your fstb someone get messed up, Jack3_?05:13
eye_jajaja, intelikey, I'm sorry, I forgot that you're not from US, And thank you for all!05:13
intelikeyJack3_   sudo swapon /dev/sda605:13
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intelikeyeye_ welcome.05:13
Jack3_swapon: cannot stat /dev/sda6: No such file or directory05:14
dr_willisi use vlc under windows even. :)05:14
Jack3_but thats probably cause im using chroot in the mounted sda505:14
Jack3_from the livecd05:14
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linuxnobbhi, is 7.0 beta?05:14
linuxnobbwhich one is the damn stable version for christ sake!!!!05:14
intelikeyyeah.   the device nodes are not there Jack3_    you can try out of the chroot.05:15
dr_willisfeisty was just released.05:15
dr_willisits now considered stable.05:15
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Hatsuyukifeisty 7.04 is stable05:15
linuxnobbok thanks05:15
intelikeyJack3_ same command not in the chroot05:15
Alpha_Clusterdoes anyone here know if qt4-dev-tools is supposed to add menu items cause i thought it did05:15
dr_willisits  not the "long term support" canadite however. :)05:15
dr_willisi think..05:15
Hatsuyukinope, not LTS05:15
Hatsuyukibut veryt put together =)05:16
linuxnobbso is or isn't it???05:16
dr_willisisent what?05:16
tinlinuxnobb: depends what you mean by stable05:16
dr_willisits stable but not LTS :)05:16
Hatsuyukiit's the curent stable and there is a LTS called dapper05:16
linuxnobbby stable I mean for a non techie non-geeky person05:16
dr_willisso if you were a business.... you most likely would want to use LTS.05:16
Hatsuyukiboth are supported right now05:16
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: Qt4 Designer isn't in your menus?05:17
linuxnobbna, this is for home use05:17
tinit contains "stable" (not beta) software, but hasn't been designated as a "long term support" release05:17
Jack3_swapon: /dev/sda6: Device or resource busy05:17
Alpha_ClusterJucato: no its confusing me >.<05:17
Hatsuyukithen I'd go for feisty personally, linuxnobb05:17
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JucatoAlpha_Cluster: nothing in K Menu -> Development?05:17
intelikeylinuxnobb it was released,  so no longer in the development stage,    i.e. not beta  not alpha05:17
hitmanWillyJack3_: that means its probably already on05:17
Jack3_well soemthing is really wrong05:17
Alpha_ClusterJucato: just KDevelop which i also have installed05:17
linuxnobb1/2 beta??05:17
Jack3_when i login from normal kubuntu, the kde window manager doesnt load05:17
Hatsuyukino, it's stable05:17
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: if you just installed it, and it didn't happen to update automatically, try running this command "kbuildsycoca --incremental" ignore the errors05:17
linuxnobbok 7.0 right?05:18
Jack3_just a konsole pops up, it has no close or minimize buttons on it05:18
intelikeyJack3_ maybe not.     what does    free   tell you ?05:18
Jack3_and trying kded says its already running05:18
Alpha_ClusterJucato: still no05:18
Jack3_swap says 1028120 free05:18
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: hm.. try if qt designer is installed at all... I forgot the executable name05:18
intelikeyyeah   if the swap partition is active   free   will show it05:18
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: I think "designer"05:19
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: ah my bad05:19
tinJack3_: why are you running chroot'ed from the liveCD kernel?05:19
Jucatoqt designer is only a "recommends", not a "depends". no it doesn't install any GUI app it seems05:19
Alpha_ClusterJucato: just did that with reinstaling it and nothing05:19
Jack3_tin, i duno :\05:19
Jack3_i just have lots of problems05:20
Jack3_and its impossible to work sincei have 1 computer05:20
linuxnobbc'mon Shuttleworth make KDE4 stable fast!! can't wait..05:20
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: qt4-dev-tools doesn't seem to install any GUI app. probably comand line tools only05:20
tinproblems like you can't boot straight to the disk?05:20
dr_willis swapon -s    gives a bit of info.05:20
intelikeyJack3_ then the swap partition is active and about 1G in size.     boot the system and run    free    and see if it's activated there.05:20
Alpha_ClusterJucato: well i also have qt4-designer installed but that isnt appearing05:20
Jucatook that's weird...05:20
intelikeyhehhe  -root: swapon: command not found05:20
Alpha_Clusterlol yeah it is05:20
linuxnobblook, how long KDE4 will take to become stable?05:21
Alpha_Clusterand when i try and run qt4-designer it says it doesnt exist05:21
dr_willisi am guessing at least 6 mo.05:21
dr_willisperhaps more then a year.05:21
hitmanWillylinuxnobb: supposedly by the end of the year05:21
Hatsuyukiaccording to the release shedule it's planned on being released in october05:21
Jack3_intelikey, i know its not activated on the system05:21
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: how about running it with "designer" only?05:21
Jack3_when i did ubuntu failsafe05:22
Jack3_i typed startx05:22
voidmagelinuxnobb: october 23 (5 days after gutsy release) is current release date05:22
Jack3_and it started kde and all05:22
Jack3_so i did ctrl esc05:22
dr_willisi hate to see things rushed to just meet a deadlline.05:22
Jack3_and it said no swap available05:22
Alpha_ClusterJucato: ok yeah then it works05:22
Alpha_Clustergot wonderful QT 4.2.3 designer05:22
linuxnobbthis is retarded European servers are faster than USA Empire05:22
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intelikeyJack3_ why failsafe ?05:22
Jucatodr_willis: knowing KDE, it won't probably release in 23 Oct if it's not ready yet ;)05:22
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dr_willisJucato,  yep - i hope not.05:23
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: there you have it :)05:23
Alpha_ClusterJucato: lol thanks05:23
Alpha_Clusteri feel stupid now lol05:23
Hatsuyukiwhich means gutsy +1 will more then likely be the first release I try KDE4 lol05:23
Jucatodr_willis: of course, I don't want them to release in 2008 either :P05:23
dr_willisgiven how its such a big jump. Ive not even tested any of the kde4 releases/betas stuff05:23
Jack3_intelikey, because normal ubuntu doesnt start05:23
Jack3_as i said05:23
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JucatoHatsuyuki: most probably *not*05:23
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Jack3_the kde doesnt start, just a console sometimes05:23
Jack3_i really dont know what im doing but i know something is really wrong05:23
Alpha_ClusterAh i just cant wait till we get at least some more usable version05:23
Hatsuyukienough time for some post-release bug fixes, lol05:23
Hatsuyukiwhy, Jucato?05:23
Jucatoanyway, they will be releasing separate KDE 4 packages, or maybe even CD's for it05:23
JucatoHatsuyuki: they're planning 8.04 to be the next LTS05:24
Hatsuyukiah, okay05:24
Jucatoand they don't want KDE 4.0 on an LTS release05:24
Alpha_Clusteryeah so we wont see KDE4 as default till afetr05:24
Hatsuyukimakes sense05:24
Alpha_Clusterthough isnt there supposed to be avalable as an alt?05:24
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: that's the plan05:24
Hatsuyukiso gutsy +2 then... should be quite stable by then I think05:25
Jucatoa separate CD.05:25
linuxnobbguys is the alternate install with LVM support LiveCD?05:25
Alpha_ClusterHatsuyuki: i hope so05:25
Jucatoanyway, we already have separate KDE repositories anyway05:25
Alpha_ClusterJucato: yeah but 4 is still not very nice lol05:25
Hatsuyukitrue but they always seem buggy for me..05:25
intelikeyJack3_ ok.    being the confused communications and the haphazard system.   i'll just resort to answering your questions.   and stop making things more perplexing.05:25
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: it's called Alpha for a reason :)05:25
linuxnobbguys!!! is alternate install with LVM support?05:25
linuxnobbplease somebody05:25
JucatoHatsuyuki: yes, it's "Alpha" :)05:26
Alpha_ClusterJucato: oh i know lol but i want to do some development stuff lol05:26
Jucatolinuxnobb: yes05:26
Jack3_anyways, i really dont know what to do05:26
Alpha_Clusterim a CS student that is just about to be going on Summer break05:26
HatsuyukiI meant even when a new KDE 3.5 gets packaged05:26
Alpha_Clusterto say the least you guys will see me a bit here lol05:26
Jack3_because something is causing a major problem, and it seems like it might be swap, but i dunno how to fix that05:26
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: well, the presumption would be you should already know your way around a bit if you want to do development stuff. anyway, #kubunt-devel would be a nice place to ask about the kde4 packages and #kde4-devel for KDE 4 development05:27
Hatsuyukithe ones in dapper/edgy were always buggy for me05:27
intelikeyJack3_ just a thought i'd like to share though.   unless your system has less than 64m ram,  then swap not being active is probably not the cause of kde not starting correctly.05:27
Jack3_ive got 512mb05:27
Alpha_ClusterJucato: yeah i figured so but im just waiting till more stuff is ready in it till i try out too much stuff05:27
JucatoHatsuyuki: well it depends. for example KDE 3.5.4 was a relatively buggy release really05:27
Jack3_is there some error log i can check?05:27
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: well, part of helping in development is trying to report bugs/problems in the packages. they can't fix what they don't know :)05:28
intelikeyyes Jack3_ in /var/log/    check xorg*   and messages05:28
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Hatsuyukithe release that goes into the official kubuntu releases always seems fine so I've decided to stick with them til next kubuntu release (though I have no probs updating amarok/koffice ;) )05:28
intelikeyJack3_ also might look for any   kdm*  files.05:28
Alpha_ClusterJucato: lol i need to boot into it first and i still have a small fear of entering long lists of terminal commands and hoping not to break an install so im looking at gettin down teh qt basics first05:28
Jucato"i still have a small fear of entering long lists of terminal commands" <--- first thing you have to overcome as an aspiring developer :D05:29
Alpha_ClusterJucato: i know >.<05:29
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Alpha_Clusterits not so much the fact its a lot of commands i just am scared of breaking stuff with kde4 libs lol05:30
Jucatooh don't worry. the kde4 packages on Kubuntu are installed in a completely different location from kde305:30
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Jucatoso there's a low chance of any breakage05:30
Jucatoof course, there's another "better" way if you want05:30
intelikeya command string is not long until it's over 1k chars05:30
Jucatocompile KDE from source05:31
Alpha_Clusterlol yeah05:31
Alpha_Clusteri hope to get to that point05:31
Jucatowell  he did say "long lists" not "long commands" :)05:31
intelikeyoh. sorry.  was busy with someone and only caught the tail of that.05:31
Alpha_Clusterlol its the breaking i fear not the length so much05:32
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Alpha_Clusteri mean ive even tried LFS05:32
Jucatobackup backup backup :)05:32
intelikeyrewind ?05:32
Alpha_Clusterlol yeah i got that one down now after my last fiasco >.<05:32
Jucatodevelopers developers developers05:32
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intelikeyoh backup05:32
Alpha_Clusterahh ballmer is here05:32
Jucato:) :) :)05:32
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RictooWhat would be the alt+F4 equivalent in kubuntu?05:33
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hitmanWillyRictoo: alt-f405:34
Alpha_Clusterwow i broke emacs i think05:34
intelikeyRictoo alt+f4  usually05:34
JucatoRictoo: Alt+F4 and Ctrl+Q05:34
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JucatoAlt+F4 technically closes the window, Ctrl+Q quits the app05:35
Jucatoso Alt+F4 doesn't always quit the app05:35
intelikeyctrl+alt+esc  runs xkill ?05:35
Rictoook, thanks jucato05:35
Jucatointelikey: only on KDE :)05:35
Jucato(unless you set it in GNOME)05:35
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intelikey"What would be the alt+F4 equivalent in kubuntu?"  << i assumed kde.05:36
JucatoCtrl+Alt+Esc runs xkill and commits GUI-cide05:36
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Jucatoyeah :)05:36
intelikeyguiside ?05:36
intelikeyi like05:36
Jack3_im so confused05:37
hitmanWillywouldn't that be ctrl-alt-bksp for the guicide05:37
Jack3_i cant understand these logs and they go on for pages05:37
ubuntuMy Grub Pretneds to boot05:37
ubuntuRictoo: Alt+F405:37
JucatohitmanWilly: that would be X-cide :)05:37
intelikeyhitmanWilly that would be  xicide05:37
Rictoowhu r u05:37
Jucatooh intelikey says it better though :P05:37
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu: ask your question in a full sentence05:37
JucatoRictoo: he just lagged05:38
ubuntuAdmiral_Chicago: Will do05:38
ubuntu I booted up my box and it told me that there was no hard drive05:38
ubuntu I pulled off all cables and reattached and the hard drive showed up05:38
Rictooubuntu, is the hdd ide?05:38
Hatsuyukithats weird, did you check it out in a livecd, ubuntu05:38
ubuntu noow it get to Grub 1.5 and sits there05:38
ubuntuHatsuyuki: Check my Nick :)05:38
ubuntuThe Live cd wouldn't boot up either though :(05:39
ubuntuAfter going through a few CDs it worked05:39
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hitmanWillythat may be a hardware problem...05:40
ubuntuHi Hobbsee05:40
ubuntuhitmanWilly: Well that's why I'm asking for help05:40
ubuntuHow do I diagnose a non booting non errored Grub?05:40
Jack3_is tehre such a thing as a repair instll05:41
Hatsuyukibroken hdd maybe?05:41
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto05:41
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu: look at boot options, that might have some options05:41
goatbedtime for BoBo.... thanks again to all who helped05:41
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ubuntuAdmiral_Chicago: It doesn't get that far05:41
linuxnobbwhen will be KDE4 become stable?05:41
Hobbseehi ubuntu05:41
Jack3_is there sucha  thing as a repairrrrrrrrr instal?05:41
linuxnobbI can't wait05:41
ubuntu_this is not live.  this is memorex05:42
Admiral_Chicagolinuxnobb: about octotober05:42
ubuntulinuxnobb: When it's done05:42
Hatsuyukithat question has already been answred, linuxnobb05:42
ubuntuJack3_: It's called a Live CD05:42
Jucatolinuxnobb: you will have to wait05:42
ubuntulinuxnobb: and you will have to05:42
linuxnobbubuntu, that's not an answer05:42
Jack3_how do i repair from the livecd05:42
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ubuntuMind reader05:42
linuxnobbthat sux05:42
goatlinuxnobb   thats like asking when will ubuntu 8.0X be released or whens the next winblows going to be released05:42
ubuntulinuxnobb: Novemeber05:42
Jucatolinuxnobb: target date is October 23, 2007. that's just tentative05:42
hitmanWillylinuxnobb: are we there yet? :)05:43
ubuntu_my grub hurts05:43
Jucatolinuxnobb: but still means you will have to wait05:43
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ubuntuAdmiral_Chicago: Yeah You know you have teh Grub Loading then grub 1.5 or Grub 2 loading then the grub menu?05:43
ubuntuJack3_: helo05:43
Jack3_how can i perform a repair install?05:43
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Hatsuyukinight night05:43
ubuntuJack3_: What do YOU call a repair install?05:43
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu: i'd suggest looking at something like SuperGrub and that might help05:43
goatthe only thing I know is I get payed on the 15th and 1st of every month... and winblows helps me get those checks  =)05:44
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Jack3_i dont know, something to revert settings to normal :\05:44
ubuntuAdmiral_Chicago: Is it mild mannered and will report to me?05:44
Jack3_i just want my ubuntu to work again, i didnt do anything to it05:44
Admiral_Chicagogoat: great...but that belongs in #kubuntu-offtopic really05:44
ubuntuJack3_: What's wrong now?05:44
Jack3_and it just dies on me::::(05:44
Jack3_kde wont start05:44
Jack3_everything else doesnt start05:44
ubuntuJack3_: Is that all?05:44
Jack3_swap isnt working05:44
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu: that was to you, i don't have much experience with grub...sorrp05:44
goatagreed admiral.. and with that I bid you all farewell05:44
ubuntuYou can't get to a Command line05:44
Jack3_i can05:44
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu: nope sorry05:45
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ubuntuJack3_: Swap fails?05:45
ubuntuMay want to do a hard drive test05:45
ubuntu_Admiral_Chicago me ?05:45
ubuntu_Admiral_Chicago sorry  i missed it.   i'll scroll up05:45
Jack3_ive tried formatting the swap05:46
ubuntu_ah super-grub05:46
ubuntuJack3_: How much Physical RAM do you have?05:46
Jack3_screw it, ill just backup everything and reformat05:46
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hitmanWillyshould still boot kde tho, even w/out swap05:47
Jack3_well i dunno05:47
Jack3_i just had the oddest problem05:47
ubuntuJack3_: ok what else goes wrong?05:47
Jack3_i had 4 gb free05:47
Jack3_and then i installed wine from source and all05:47
Jack3_and i trid to install a program, and it said 0b was free?05:48
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Jack3_so i checked konqueror, and it said 0b was free also, so i deleted 600mb of files05:48
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ubuntuWhy from source?05:48
Jack3_still 0b free05:48
ubuntu_empty the trash05:48
Jack3_yes i emptied the trash05:48
Jack3_anyways, i reboot05:48
ubuntuJack3_: Ducks it05:48
Rictoo`Crap, no questions pelase, what's alt+F4 in linux, again?05:48
ubuntuYou can get to a command line ?05:48
Rictoo`Crap, no questions pelase, what's alt+F4 in linux, again?05:48
Jack3_and then when i tried to login the screen went black and then went back tothelogin screen05:48
ubuntuRictoo`: Don't double post05:48
Rictoo`ALT+F4 is for closing the window05:49
Rictoo`I want the shortcut to close the app05:49
ubuntuRictoo`: Ctrl+Q05:49
hitmanWillyRictoo`: ctrl-q05:49
Rictoo`What's the shortcut to close an app in linux?05:49
Jack3_then i found that in root/.local/.Trash/files/ i had 4gb05:49
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Jack3_which WASNT there before05:49
Jack3_so i deleted that05:49
Jack3_so now when i start up the konsole will load , but still no kde05:49
ubuntu_some apps venella  Q   will do05:49
Jack3_i cant figure out for the life of me how this happened05:49
Admiral_ChicagoRictoo`: quit05:49
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Jack3_ive compiled wine from src before too05:49
ubuntuJack3_: type startx05:49
Admiral_Chicagolike all major operating systems05:50
ubuntuJack3_: You can install wine from the packages05:50
Admiral_Chicagoit is exit a window05:50
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:50
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Jack3_ubuntu, ive done, that, it starts yes05:50
Jack3_but not everyhting05:50
Jack3_like knetworkmanager doesnt work, etc, etc05:50
Jack3_its really broken,05:50
ubuntuWhat not everything?05:50
Admiral_Chicagookay i'm away now. /me waves goodnight to Jucato!! :)05:50
Jack3_look obviously we arent getting anywhere05:50
Jack3_this problem cant be fixed05:50
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Jack3_im just gonna reinstall05:50
hitmanWillyJack3_: have you tried reconfiguring kde?05:50
Jucatonight Admiral_Chicago!!05:50
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Jack3_the problem is bigger than kde05:51
ubuntuJack3_: And learn ducks :)05:51
ubuntu_ubuntu are you on a live cd ?05:51
ubuntuubuntu_: Yes are you?05:51
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Jack3_whats ducks\05:52
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ubuntuJack3_: du -cks . | sort -rn | head -1105:52
ubuntuShows you what's taking up your space05:52
ubuntuyou can alias all of that to the word ducks05:52
ubuntujust cd / then type ducks and you see where your space is gone :)05:52
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ubuntueasy to hunt down05:53
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ubuntuSo about grub05:53
ubuntu_i'm looking at a web page that says  Please click on the following button to continue:   but there is no button.05:54
ubuntu_ubuntu  yes about grub ?05:54
ubuntuAnyone know how to figure out what's causing it to stall?05:55
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ubuntu_error message ?05:55
ubuntuNo error message05:55
ubuntu_give more details then05:55
ubuntuIt goes past grub stage one to Grub 1.505:55
ubuntuThen says grub loading ...05:55
ubuntubut never reaches the grub menu05:55
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ubuntu_corrupt stage file ?05:56
ubuntuWouldn't that throw an error?05:56
ubuntu_tried reinstalling it ?05:56
ubuntu_not if the file had a bad read and corrupted the ram.05:57
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jza873hay im having a little problem for some reason konqueror wont display web images and i cant figure out hwo to fix it05:57
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jza873if any one can help with this it would be greatly appreicated05:58
ubuntuChecked to see if show images was on?05:58
ubuntu_reading in a corrupt file into something as "simple minded" as grub can cause the base ram to have things that the tiny os can't handle.    grub is not the full kernel you know.05:58
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jza873yea autoload images is on05:58
ubuntuI'm outta ideas then05:59
ubuntuubuntu_: Is there some test I can do on it?05:59
jza873ok thanks06:00
ubuntu_ubuntu i'd just reinstall it and see if it clears it up.06:00
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ubuntujza873: ask in #kde as well06:00
bassgoonshould it be able to detect my linksys wireless card "out of the box"?06:00
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ubuntu_i'll be right back as me06:00
jza873does any one know if it is possible to remove konqueror using apt-get remove then load it back on or would that just mess everything up06:01
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ubuntubassgoon: assuming that your card is supoprted06:01
intelikeyah better...06:01
ubuntujza873: ... yes06:01
ubuntujza873: remove konqueror then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:01
ubuntuintelikey: than?06:01
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bassgoonwhere can I find a list?06:01
intelikeybeing so generic06:01
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:02
ubuntuintelikey: heehee :)06:02
jza873ok ill try that thanks06:02
ubuntuintelikey: do I have to chroot the / ?06:02
intelikeyno  jsut add the root dir.   -r /mountpoint    i think.06:03
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linuxnobbguys are you sure Alternate CD is LiveCD? the ubuntu says its text based06:03
bassgoonubuntu, so if its not on the list...I'm hosed?06:03
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linuxnobbit's gotta be text base06:03
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intelikeymaybe man    knows.06:03
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ubuntulinuxnobb: It's not the live cd06:04
ubuntuit's the alternate cd06:04
ubuntubassgoon: Did you read the page i just sent you ?06:04
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ubuntuDidn't actually send it to you06:04
intelikeyubuntu    sudo grub-install --root-directory=<mountpoint> <device>06:05
ubuntuhi Mez06:05
mo0osahhow do you make the darn clock 12 hour format06:05
bassgoonubuntu, eer I didn't see my card listed06:05
linuxnobbubuntu, are you for real? Alternade CD kubuntu is text-based only??!!06:05
ubuntubassgoon: ok they have a wifi Howto on the same page06:05
ubuntu follow the steps there06:05
ubuntu it will help you if your card isn't listed there06:05
intelikeymo0osah right click it.  and configure lang&whatever06:05
bassgoonah, thanks ubuntu06:06
ubuntulinuxnobb: Yes that's kinda the point06:06
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mo0osahintelikey, i'm there but cant find how to change the format06:06
linuxnobbi gotta re-download again??!!06:06
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ubuntulinuxnobb: What are you doing with it?06:06
linuxnobbso LiveCD doesn't support LVM??!!06:06
linuxnobbI need LVM06:06
linuxnobband LiveCD06:07
intelikeymo0osah it's there someplace.   i've done it.   but don't have kde installed now so can't track it down for you06:07
ubuntuOh yeah then use the laternate06:07
ubuntuit's much easier with that06:07
linuxnobbbut it's not LiveCD06:07
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linuxnobbthat's retarded, what does it take to add LVM to liveCD?06:07
ubuntumo0osah: try the Date Time format then -> Time and dates -> Date format06:07
ubuntulinuxnobb: space06:07
ubuntuintelikey:   sudo grub-install --root-directory=grub /dev/hdb106:08
ubuntuthat looks right06:08
intelikeythe phrase "live CD"  is so decpetive.    all self installing os's on cd are live cd's    but somehow the term 'live CD' seems to only be used for those with autostarting gui06:08
intelikeyubuntu no06:08
ubuntu where =grub is the folder I mounted to?06:09
intelikeyubuntu did you mount the installed system on  /grub ?06:09
intelikeyif so then yes.06:09
ubuntunot /grub ~/grub06:09
intelikeythen yes.06:09
ubuntuHere goes06:09
intelikeyare you sure /dev/hdb1 is correct ?06:09
intelikeymaybe scsi emulation.    sdb1 ?06:10
ubuntuI have no /dev/sdanything06:10
ubuntuAnd it failed06:10
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intelikeyok then it's not scsi emulation06:10
ubuntuRunning "install --stage2=grub/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 (hd1,0) (hd1,0)1+20 p (hd1,0)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed06:10
ubuntuError 6: Mismatched or corrupt version of stage1/stage206:11
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intelikeythere you have it.   it is a corrupt   stage file.06:11
ubuntuMy / is XFS06:11
ubuntuWonder if that's an issue ...06:11
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intelikeygrub and xfs     hmmmm06:12
ubuntuintelikey: Sooo blow it away and recreate?06:12
intelikeyor add a small boot partition ?06:12
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ses1959_two questions on thunderbird06:13
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ubuntuI'll do it when KDE4 ships06:13
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ses1959_i would like to add my comments to the top of a reply not at the bottom06:13
intelikeyi'm not sure if it's corrupt because of some  grub/xfs bug   or just a bad file.    wont hurt to rm the ~/grub/boot/grub/stage* files and see what happens.06:13
ses1959_i have a old thunderbird file that i would like to add to my new account but could not import it06:14
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ubuntucan't I just mv them?06:14
intelikeysure  :)06:14
ubuntuThey get recreated on the fly ?06:14
ubuntuor rerun the install ?06:14
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voidmagehow do i purge the lyrics cache in amarok?'06:15
intelikeyright click ?06:15
intelikeyidk.  i looked at amarok one time.06:16
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ubuntuthrew a warnign06:16
intelikeyno errors ?06:16
ubuntuthink I'll save this on the hard drive06:16
ubuntuInstallation finished. No error reported.06:16
intelikeythen it "should" work.06:16
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ubuntuI'm saving the error messages on the drive so I can read them later06:17
intelikeywarning about the number of sectors and some bios issue   that's normal06:17
intelikeyit was writen in the 80's and never moved out of the code    :)06:18
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ubuntuSo much for open source :-)06:18
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ubuntuLets see if this works06:18
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jza873_nope didnt work06:19
jza873_and on # kde no one wants to talk06:19
intelikeyjza873_ is it beryl ?06:19
jza873_i have beryl but its not running it started happeneing after i installed this firewall but i removed it06:20
jza873_im going to remove beryl now because that thing sucks06:20
jza873_see if that helps06:20
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mjponce#kde ?06:21
jza873_nope it wasnt beryl06:21
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jza873_yea no one talks on that06:21
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intelikeyjza873_ just a note.  you can reset all user prefs. in kde  by removing ~/.kde then logging in.06:22
djbaileyHey everyone can anyone tell me where the sound directory is06:22
djbaileyim looking to reboot the service and just need the dir06:22
rich__would anyone message me on how to install beryl? im new to linux, beginner if you will.06:22
jza873_sudo apt-get install beryl06:22
intelikeydjbailey what sound directory ?06:23
intelikeydjbailey what are you looking for ?06:23
rich__dont i feel stupid.06:23
rich__Thaks jza874_06:24
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djbaileyi just want like /etc/sound. whatever so i can restart it06:24
jza873_its not that cool tho beryl is kind of cool for 3 mins then it just lame06:24
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rich__heres one for your brains..06:24
rich__what would stupid feel like?06:24
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intelikeydjbailey   /etc/init.d/  ?06:25
crimsundjbailey: we don't have one like that.  What do you really want to do?  Unload and reload the modules?  Restore the default mixer levels?  Both?06:25
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rich__once the install is done06:25
jza873_ok this all happened when i installed " fiaif "06:25
rich__what do you do06:25
rich__just restart?06:25
DaSkreechAnd once again * crashes as soon as kde loads06:25
djbaileyi had sound i lost power to my laptop and now my sound does not work06:26
intelikeyjza873_ try firestarter06:26
crimsundjbailey: ok, so pastebin the output from ``asoundconf list && amixer''06:26
crimsundjbailey: then tell us the URL06:26
jza873_yea i got firestarter now06:27
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rich__should i take that as a yes? after the install of beryl. just restart06:27
intelikeyjza873_ running it might let you undo what ever mess you have made of iptables06:27
djbaileyI got it thanks for the Crimsum06:27
djbaileyi mean Crimsun06:27
jza873_i removed fiaif but no good it still wont display images its not even like broken links just dont show up06:27
djbaileyi clicked somthing in the sound link and it worked.06:28
jza873_ok so ill reinstall it and run it and see what happens06:28
intelikeyrich__ i've never messed with beryl06:28
rich__but like.. im confused.. its installed now (i think)06:29
rich__now what?06:29
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ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:30
DaSkreechhi crimsun06:30
intelikeysee is there any help there   ^06:30
jza873_nah didnt work is ther a way to reset the iptables06:30
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DaSkreechwonder if i should relaunch dbus06:30
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bassgoonanyone know a decent cheap pcmcia wireless card that works easily with linux? all I need is connection, no wep or wpa06:31
jza873_i even tried to load konqueror through ion3 and still no good06:31
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intelikeyjza873_ yeah.     iptables -F    ???  not sure that you wont need to add an 'allow all'   after flushing 'all' though...06:32
intelikeybetter first to list06:33
intelikeysee what ya go06:33
intelikeymy english tobe06:34
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kalorin`intelikey: remember to use small bites, else you'll choke06:35
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jza873_nope i dont think its the iptables something bust be blocking it06:35
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jza873_any other ideas06:40
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Dave-KubuntuHeres a ATI Permissions problem i'm having, think you can help? -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21100/06:41
intelikeyreset kde ?       rm -r ~/.kde06:41
jza873_i thought you show never remove the ~/.kde directory06:42
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jza873_if i did that wont it mess up all my apps06:43
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intelikeyreset them to defaults...06:44
DaSkreechintelikey: You don't like mv do you ?06:44
intelikeyDaSkreech i find it deceptive.06:44
jza873_ill try it06:45
intelikeyif you mv ~/.kde    then while kde is running try to move it back it will ignore most of the stuff.  so why not just rm it to start with.06:45
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jza873_ok i removed it06:46
DaSkreechwhy would you do it IN kde?06:46
intelikeyjza873_ ctrl+alt+backspace   and hope06:46
jza873_yea i just thought about that just now06:46
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jza873_i have liek 10 desktop managers so hopefully i didnt just mess everything up06:46
intelikeyyou didn't06:47
Dave-KubuntuHeres a ATI Permissions problem i'm having, think you can help? -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21100/06:48
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DaSkreechanyone has planetkde on RSS ?06:49
jza873it worked06:49
jza873now back to reconfigureing everything06:49
jza873thanks soo mcuh06:49
JucatoDaSkreech: me06:49
DaSkreechJucato: can You do a search for Conspiracy ?06:50
DaSkreech who made ap ost last week about that ?06:50
Jucatothomas zander06:50
kalorin`Dave-Kubuntu: so it doesn't work for a while then starts to work?06:50
kalorin`that's kind of odd06:50
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Dave-KubuntuNo it starts automaticly but it's slow06:51
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Dave-Kubuntukalorin`: it's not just that too all 3d things are slow and give errors06:53
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kalorin`Dave-Kubuntu: hrms...06:54
kalorin`Dave-Kubuntu: join #kalorin06:54
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jza873thanks everyone im going to bed back to teh salt mines at embarq06:57
jza873later and thanks again06:57
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xlinux_Allright guys.. ive got a problem to fix06:59
xlinux_this ones been kicking my arse06:59
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DaSkreechGood to know07:02
kalorin`xlinux_: you'd have to sign a wavier before I'll offer up my own ass to get kicked by said problem07:02
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kalorin`cause I'll want to be able to recover damages07:02
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red_it seems that bash auto-complete is not enabled) in my konsole. Where do I need to enable this?07:03
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crimsunred_: ~/.bashrc07:03
JucatoDaSkreech: why o why?07:03
xlinux_freezing due to 9755 nvidia driver.. anyone have ideas?07:04
intelikeyooops.    i just installed grub on the windows partition not the linux partition...    will that work ?07:04
DaSkreechI was on vacation last week so I left Akregator on to get all the blogs and news goodness07:04
DaSkreechSo of course the machine was turned off a day after I left07:04
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DaSkreechAnd both planetkde and planetmozilla don't keep more than like a day of back blogs07:05
red_crimsun: and what's the setting that I have to enable?07:05
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JucatoDaSkreech: oh... :(07:05
intelikeyok i'll go test it and see if it works...07:05
DaSkreechanyone kompiled kamion?07:06
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crimsunred_: scroll to the bottom and read the comment.07:07
Tired_what's a decent onscreen analog clock I can apt-get in a hurry?07:09
Tired_decent meaning has a second hand07:09
Tired_google just gives me tray clock packages07:10
Tired_nvm, found one, sorta07:11
DaSkreechWhich is it ?07:11
Jucatothe clock in the kicker has an analog clock07:11
Tired_there's a kde screensaver07:11
Jucatoah that sort of clock?07:12
Jucatothere's also some superkaramba themes I think. not sure about the seconds hand though07:12
Tired_this will work for me right now07:12
Tired_stopwatch is broken07:12
DaSkreechHa ha :)07:12
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xlinux_which log? I would assume the xorg log07:15
xlinux_the flashes would make me think xorg, but the fact that the system completely freezes makes me think system07:15
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xlinux_anyone know anything about issues with video cards07:23
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dsmith_anyone know how to turn rarok on at a certain time in the AM?07:28
kalorin`dsmith, get primitive on it, crontab ;)07:28
dsmith_never had to do one07:29
kalorin`it's cake07:29
kalorin`crontab -e07:29
kalorin`<min> <hour> <day> <month> <dayofweek> <command>07:29
kalorin`30 01 * * * bash TimeForBed.sh07:29
kalorin`for instance07:29
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kalorin`every day, of every month, every day of the week at 1:30am go to bed07:30
kalorin`my system is going to 7.04 now07:30
kalorin`this ought to be a ton of fun07:30
dsmith_i am holding off07:31
kalorin`<--- clicked next07:31
dsmith_i just did a dual boot other day07:31
kalorin`I was too but found out my grades for the quarter so I have a week to put the box back together if it doesn't go so well07:31
dsmith_resized my win part down to 1gb of free space07:31
kalorin`I need to redo my winXP vmware instance down from 50gb to something more reasonable07:31
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kalorin`autoexpand it or something07:32
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dsmith_sudo required?07:33
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kalorin`shouldn't be07:34
kalorin`depends if you let users on your system use cron07:34
dsmith_whats this07:34
kalorin`not sure07:34
kalorin`ok to bed with me07:34
kalorin`system wants me to close all applications so things don't blow up on the upgrade07:35
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kalorin`can't end well07:35
kalorin`ah well07:35
kalorin`we'll see07:35
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:36
kalorin`might as well get the directions now just in case07:36
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RictooThis might sound odd, but I'm gonna leave my computer on all night, and I don't wanna waste cpu power07:42
Rictoois there anything big and useful I can download?07:42
Rictoo(No, I don't want Folding@Home :P)07:42
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kalorin`set a hibernate in the bios?07:43
RictooBut i want my computer on07:43
kalorin`with wake on lan and mouse or something07:43
kalorin`it's on then07:43
kalorin`it's just not doing anything07:43
Rictoobut I wanna use cpu :D07:43
kalorin`sorry nothing I cna think of07:43
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dettoaltrimentiis there any way I can check what device my keyboard is in /dev/input?07:47
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esunderi installed the php command line interpreter, what do i need to connect to a mysql database, when i try to i get "Call to undefined function mysql_connect()"07:48
esunderi am assuming i need another package but im not sure which one, anyone know?07:48
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Vuenhey guys, when i burn a data dvd with k3b, it doesn't mount automatically. i have to mount it manually in a terminal.07:50
Vuenanyone know what's wrong?07:50
Vuenit also works perfectly fine in windows07:51
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Vuenbut even after restarting the computer, if i put in a data dvd i burned into the cdrom drive while kubuntu is running, nothing happens07:51
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bassgoonI seem to recall knoppix having a wizard to set the desktop behavior to ms windows style, does kubuntu have that?07:55
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ncetervalI just upgraded to Feisty and am having trouble mounting an encrypted partition during the boot process.  When I was using Edgy, this was accomplished with cryptsetup create name /dev/hffa7.  Now it appears that there is no such device.  How can I track down the appropriate device?07:57
Ichilegendhello bassgoon, Fedoora had that wizard too, but it is not in Kubuntu, you have to set the settings else ways07:58
IchilegendYeah, I actually got used to it since i Double click my title bar in a window to maximize/restore a window07:59
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ncetervalHmm, if anyone's interested, I think hda got renamed to sda in the upgrade.08:07
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IchilegendHas anyone here used Jinzora?  I just installed it as my second LAMP application.08:08
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ranjanlooking for help with selecting between cowan a2 mp3 player and wolverine esp mp3 player, any inputs?08:10
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Ichilegendranjan, are you asking or offering?08:11
ranjani have read about a lot and narrowed down to those 2, but still deciding08:11
ranjani need help08:11
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Ichilegendhmmm, I haven't used those before... let me give a quick google to see what they are...08:13
ranjanthanks Ichilegend08:14
ranjanappreciate the effort08:14
Ichilegendwow, those are some niiiice players08:15
ranjanso what do u think?08:16
IchilegendThe cowan one is vey sexy looking... are they priced similar?08:16
ranjanwolverine is more picey08:16
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ranjanbut wolverine also has a model called MVP which is available in only one color which is horrid that is equal in price to cowan08:17
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Ichilegendhmmm, I like the cowan (based on my 3minute overview!)08:19
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IchilegendIt may have a smaller hard drive, but it looks like they thoght up the extras08:20
ranjanis that based on looks or features?08:20
Ichilegendwell the looks are better, but I (personally mind you) would use the Divix Xvid features plus sub title file integration08:21
IchilegendThe size seems more compact08:21
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IchilegendThe Wolverine looks more universal, it has a ton of memory card inputs and you can get it up to 160GB08:22
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ranjanexactly my thoughts, but i am tempted by the hdisk size and loose any external storage device08:22
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Ichilegendactually both would be a liitle more than I would use, they both put my iPod to shame08:22
ranjana 130 GB external usn hdd would compensate wolverines cost08:23
Skrot-Hi, I've downloaded the source of kdeutils using "apt-get source kdeutils" and applied a few patches to it, now how can I make it a .deb package?08:23
ranjan+ 30 GB for music would be great08:23
Ichilegendbut if you are a movie buff or have a s&*t ton of mp3's the Wolverine would be the obvious choice.  Just read your 130 gb comment ...bery tru08:24
Ichilegendvery true08:24
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ranjanthanks Ichilegend08:25
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ranjani am still undecided08:25
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hjacobHow would I downgrade a package using fx aptitude?08:25
ranjanboth have great reviews on amazon! so i know both will be good players08:25
IchilegendThey are both pretty cool looking.  Either would be good to have.  I am cheap though and the cheaper one looks cooler ;)  my 3 minute-no-money-exchanged-vote would go to cowan.08:25
fulat2kany idea if ubuntustudio theme/icons can be  used in kubuntu?08:25
ranjanfulat2k: yes just add their repository08:26
ranjanand download the artwork meta package08:26
ranjanoops only in ubunru not in kubuntu08:26
fulat2kranjan: that's what i'm afraid of :(08:27
fulat2koh well.08:27
ranjanfulat2k: make one yourself...08:28
fulat2ktime to readup..::P08:28
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ranjanfulat2k: not too hard... just downlaod some existing themes from kde-look and see how its done08:29
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IchilegendAll of the files are svg ones right? You could make your own theme if it can't be found elsewhere rithgt?08:30
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ranjanPorn.com Domain Sold for $9 Million!08:33
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insmodranjan: nice08:33
Ichilegendlol and on the day Jerry faldwell died?  sad08:33
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ranjanIchilegend: cowan also has a model called D2, with touch screen control, no buttons for controls, is that a good option?08:35
IchilegendSo I just set up Jinzora today on LAMP and it is awesome.  A couple small probs, but basically it is like having your own shoutcast network.08:36
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Ichilegend@ranjan, Touchsreen can be good08:36
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IchilegendI dunno, I just got a Garmin GPS system for my car that is completely touch screen and it is awesome, i guees it depends on the interface08:37
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ranjani agree, if done well it can be great08:38
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ranjancan be equally bad if not well thought out08:38
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IchilegendIpod = 1 button and a wheel for every function.  If touch is the only interface and it is done right... perfect!08:38
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ranjanIchilegend: my wife has a 30 gb video ipod08:39
mo0osahany simple way to minimize firefox and thunderbird to tray?08:39
ranjanthe only thing i hate about it is DRM08:39
ranjanmo0osah: by pressing the minimize button08:40
mo0osahto tray???08:40
ranjanto tray?08:40
Ichilegend@mo0osah, adding the Desktop Access applet to the task bar08:40
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IchilegendRight click the panel (taskbar) add applet and add show desktop08:41
Ichilegendclick the show desktop icon to minimize all08:42
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rollercan you help me- music playing but i cant hear it08:42
IchilegendCan you give more info?08:42
rolleraaa comp couldt configure sound card08:43
ranjanwhats the sound card?08:43
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rollerhow i cant see my sound card??08:43
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crimsunroller: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.08:44
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Ichilegendcat /proc/asound/cards        <= This command may suggest the card, but not if it goes unidentified08:47
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roller 0 [SB             ] : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB08:49
dhakatelhi i just install kubuntu i want to install berly desktop08:49
roller                      HDA ATI SB at 0xd0400000 irq 1908:49
dhakatelor and xgl08:49
rollerthis is sound card08:49
Jucato!beryl | dhakatel08:49
dhakatelwhat can i do now08:49
ubotudhakatel: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:49
richard_how do I install ati drivers ?08:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:49
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Ichilegendwow, bots are cool08:50
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Ichilegenddhakatel you have what you need or you need human help?08:51
richard_I cant install my ati drivers08:51
richard_the instructions are for ubuntu :(08:51
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Ichilegendrichard the Kubuntu installation would be the same for the most part08:52
xlinux_holy crap.. anyone know anything about Nvidia drivers? I just learned some stuff I didnt know08:52
radioaktivstormhello, i have a question: why do some windows insist on becoming several hundred pixels too large? and is there a way to fix this?08:52
Ichilegendexplain .... um ... all of you!08:53
dromerhi all, I seem to need to recompile mpd for AAC/M4A support,  can someone help me with this?08:53
xlinux_anyone even interested?08:53
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Ichilegendwhat is the problem?08:53
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dhakatelis there any pango enable firefox binary for kubuntu08:54
xlinux_i dont really have a problem.. I just learned something that *may* have been my problem08:55
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Ichilegenddo share08:55
xlinux_I constantly checked on the Nvidia website for a driver higher than 9755, thinking that Nvidia would change the driver version every time they released an update08:56
xlinux_but they OONT08:56
Ichilegenddhakatel, i dunno, It was standard in Fedora, but i haven't been paying attention to the kubuntu releases08:56
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xlinux_They had the release date on the website listed as may 7 200708:56
xlinux_BUT, the original driver I downloaded that was 9755, I downloaded in early march08:57
xlinux_I never realized they released drivers of the same version multiple times with multiple revisions08:57
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Ichilegendxlinux are you getting your nvidia drivers from a repository through regular upgrades or comkpiling it yourself with each new kernel?08:58
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xlinux_compiling it myself.. the repos never worked for me08:59
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xlinux_As soon as I d/led the latest release of v. 9755 nvidia driver, my FPS went from 4900 to 5500!!!!08:59
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xlinux_Hopefully, this also fixed my flashing freezing problem...09:00
Ichilegendinteresting, I guess the linux source stays the same version.  Since they try to unify their drivers, perhaps the updates are mostly for Windows?09:00
xlinux_im guessing..09:01
Ichilegendweird.  Nice to know though09:01
xlinux_whats weird is in there archives, they have a driver version 9762 that was released may 2nd, but the 9755 latest release is may 7th!!!09:01
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IchilegendRollback i guess.  they must have f'd something upp09:02
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xlinux_Haha, this whole time, I thought they simply hadnt released a new driver.. and they did, just under the same version with a different date09:02
xlinux_yeah, thats what I was thinking09:03
xlinux_they just used the 9755 and incorporated the features from the 976209:03
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IchilegendRelease, get feedback..react is the entire quick to market coding mantra these days.09:04
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xlinux_If this actially fixes my flashing/freezing, which I really doubt it would be so easy, than I will be VERY happy with kubuntu. I was actually ready to try Sabayon because of this freezing crap09:05
xlinux_whats up with your Ati card?09:05
Ichilegendatually I had Kubuntu issues too, my ultimate answer was to install ubuntu then apt-get kubuntu-desktop when all was working.09:06
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rollerwhy i cant tallk with you but i cant go to web adress09:07
rollerbrowser said Could not connect to host ya.ru.09:08
xlinux_the funny thing is, Kubuntu flashed and froze FAR LESS than Ubuntu09:08
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xlinux_I find it odd my FPS drops 2k when I use Beryl, but maybe thats just what beryl uses to run?09:10
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IchilegendI like the Ubuntu stability, but I prefer KDE, the way to go for my mone is Ubuntu+kubuntu-desktop09:11
IchilegendPlus beryl is cool for a month or so, but the only real feature i still use is the cube.  Big productivity enhancer09:12
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dromercan someony help me recompile mpd for m4a support?09:18
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ardchoilleIchilegend: I like ubuntu too, but my 11 kubuntu machines haven't had a single problem and all are stable :)09:23
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xlinux_took a smoke break09:33
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xlinux_yeah, I agree with you about beryl.. I only use the cube and the magic lamp minimize- this helps me sort out where im minimizing to09:34
xlinux_i multitask like a mother09:34
xlinux_nordseebaer- hey09:34
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nordseebaerany german here who can help me?09:34
xlinux_i cant help you there...09:35
_4strOde | nordseebaer or try in english ;)09:35
_4strO!de | nordseebaer or try in english ;)09:35
ubotunordseebaer or try in english ;): Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:35
nordseebaerok ty :) if i dont find anyone i'll come back and try in english ;)09:35
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_4strOyop yop09:40
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jan__Good morning. Can I ask for some help with K3b?10:07
jan__Is it possible to rip audio CD's to MP3 format?10:07
Jucato!cdrip | jan__10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
Jucatoer sorry10:08
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Jucato!ripping | jan__10:08
ubotujan__: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh10:08
Jucatoyou don't even need to use k3b, but yes you can10:08
Jucatojust install LAME10:08
jan__I know there are other tools. I am writing a book for newbies at the moment. I installed Lame and the libk3b2.mp3 dependencies10:09
jan__Yet, it only shows Ogg and WAV as options.10:09
Jucatolibk3b2-mp3 is only used for burning MP3's to Audio CD's10:10
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jan__So it doesn't support the other way around.10:10
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Jucatohm. it should, if you have lame installed. or maybe liblame? not really sure. Haven't tried it myself10:11
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_4strOJucato: i do not agree with you, libk3b2-mp3 is even use to RIP CD's tu mp310:13
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Jucato!info libk3b2-mp310:13
ubotulibk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB10:13
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jan___4strO: that leaves the question: why doesn't the MP3 option show in K3b when I try to rip a cd?10:14
ardchoille!info lame10:14
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB10:14
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_4strOjan__: i will verify on my laptop10:15
jan__Sound Juicer works fine. Acidrip as well (for video that is)10:15
jan___4strO: thanks10:15
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Jucatohow about kaudiocreator?10:15
jan__Jucato: haven't tried that one yet. One moment.10:16
Jucatoand the audiocd:/ kioslave? hm.. how about installing "liblame0"? not really sure10:16
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_4strOha yes, i cant encode in mp3 with k3b10:17
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_4strOthought so ...10:17
ardchoillek3b rocks!10:17
jan__Jucato: liblame0 is installed10:17
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jan__Jucato: kaudiocreator has MP3 as an option10:18
Jucatohave you tried restarting k3b?10:18
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jan__Jucato: yep, a few times already10:19
Jucatodoes audiocd:/ also have an MP3 folder?10:19
jan__Jucato: yes, it does10:20
Jucatoit's not empty?10:20
Jucatoif so, it might be a K3b problem...10:20
jan__I see files, so you might be right then10:20
jan__Blast, there goes a chapter in the book10:21
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jan__It is to risky to describe this option for newbies if it doesn't work out of the box. Too bad, but thanks for helping out.10:23
jan__I will add the audiocd:/ option to the chapter instead.10:23
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Jucatoor kaudiocreator, if you want a specialized app for it10:24
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jan__Jucato: that one too, as an alternative to Sound Juicer10:26
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jan__Okay, back to writing it is. See you all and thank you10:26
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jordo23Why whenever I use ark to extract a .tar.gz file I get an error that says the extraction operation failed....10:45
TheInfinityark sometimes strange errors ...10:45
TheInfinitydid you try it by using console?10:45
jordo23TheInfinity: no....will try......which options would ark emulate?10:46
jordo23by default...10:47
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TheInfinityhmm ... something like tar -xf yourarchivename.tar10:47
TheInfinitythats unextracting ... perhaps there you will get a better descr ...10:47
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jordo23TheInfinity: Would the fact it's final extension is .gz matter?10:48
premier_Hello, I'm having trouble with png support.  Earlier today someone told me to reinstall qt... I'm hoping for a better answer10:49
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premier_Its not showing pngs in konqueror, and nothing seems to display them correctly, such as gwenview... krita doesn't know how to use them, but...10:49
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premier_konqueror will show them if they are part of a webpage.  Also, firefox will show them without any trouble10:50
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TheInfinitythen its a tar.gz ... so ypou have to use tar -cvzf file.tar.gz10:51
TheInfinityargs sorry wrong10:52
TheInfinitytar xvzf file.tar.gz is should be10:52
jordo23TheInfinity: Is there a better GUI archive program?10:54
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TheInfinityjordo23: good question ... i never found one ... sometimes i miss winrar unde rlinux10:54
jordo23TheInfinity: lol10:55
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TheInfinityi like rar because its extreme efficent ;)10:55
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bahrTheInfinity: You can get rar and unrar for linux?10:59
TheInfinityyes but not rar with such a lot options ;)10:59
bahrTheInfinity: What options are you looking for?11:00
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TheInfinityfor example the reconstruction of damaged archives is with rar really good11:00
bahrTheInfinity: Have you seen the man page for rar? There are options for reconstruction11:01
TheInfinityor - on the other hand - compression rate ... also really nice :)11:02
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bahrTheInfinity: Ok I don't know about compression rate, but I know there are many options with rar which you can configure11:04
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david2What's the nest way to make a full backup an exact mirror of a linux install?11:13
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bahrdavid2: I use acronis, but that's not open-source but it works very well for my needs11:16
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david2I saw something about rsync11:17
david2but I always f up using that11:17
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bahrdavid2: well you need to update your grub.conf if you want the option to press F11 at boottime to restore11:23
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Simeon_Hwhy did my CD's arrive so quickly? :/11:29
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Jucatoand you're complaining? O.o11:30
LynoureSimeon_H: you can shelf it for a week or five if you wish11:31
Simeon_Hno I just wanna know why they only took like two weeks to get from the Isle of Man to australia and through customs and everything :/11:32
Simeon_Hor more importantly, how11:32
Jucatoof course by the magic of Ubuntu :)11:33
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Simeon_Hmeh it says pass it on?11:33
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Simeon_His this like the shareware version of doom where if you don't distribute it to everyone some dude comes and hacks your arms off?11:34
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bahrI got my CD's within two weeks too :)11:35
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bahrIf I want to get involved with Kubuntu programming slowly, what kidn of programming languages do I need to learn? And is it possible to start slowly and build up skills in programming and still help? I only have experiences with C and C# programming11:37
stalker_i think c is enough11:37
stalker_but kde is c++ btw11:38
ChousukeC++ is pretty easy to learn if you know C11:38
Chousukeeven easier if you know C# I suppose11:38
Lynourebut C is not easy to do well.11:38
stalker_and don't start writting your own programs, start by examining existing ones, and impoving them11:39
stalker_like making patchs, and so on11:39
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bahrI'm not an advanced C programmer11:39
bahrbut I would like to be :P11:39
bahrallright, where do I find the source code for these programs?11:40
stalker_i'm not advanced too, and i wrote a bunch of gnome apps:/11:40
Simeon_HI wouldn't11:40
stalker_don't worry about that11:40
Simeon_HI'd like to be an electronics engineer11:40
Simeon_Hseeing as that's what I'm studying :/11:40
stalker_go to kde site, there you can find11:40
Lynourebahr: that's why you should prepare for them to reject/modify your patches the first 15 times :) It's good for the skin too, thickens it :)11:40
stalker_bue beware that kde is currently working on 4.0 version11:41
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stalker_so you come in some fog right now11:41
bahrLynoure: well I have nothing against that, I know there are a bunch of people out there, who are lightyears in front of my programming skills :) I just want to help, and hopefully I get better with time and experience.11:41
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Lynourebahr: sounds like you have what it takes then: motivation and willingness to learn11:42
bahrOk, well I am looking for a starting point11:42
stalker_how long do you use kde?11:42
bahrLynoure: yeah that I definitely have :)11:42
stalker_did you noticed any bug that is pissing you off?11:42
stalker_if so, dive into the code:)11:43
stalker_join mailing list11:43
bahrstalker_: Well not that long, I have used some different things during the time I used linux. Fluxbox, KDE, Gnome etc. but now I stick to KDE. It's the one I like the most11:43
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stalker_hint: don't say on it: an i work on this bug:)11:43
bahrstalker_: but I don't know anything about the "inner" workings of KDE though11:43
stalker_you don't need, starts with some app in kde, not kde core11:44
bahrstalker_: ok :)11:44
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pandI wonder how can I translate KDE documentation into other languages e.g. into Polish11:45
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pandanybody knows where I can find documents explain it?11:45
stalker_translators.kde.org, i think, then find your countrymates first11:45
pandI'm going to check it, thanks11:45
stalker_don't be one man show, there's are many polish guys working on it11:46
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stalker_best practice i saw is to ask what need s to be translated on polish lang mailing list11:46
Skrot-Hi. Any chance 2.6.21 will be backported to feisty?11:46
_4strOpand: http://l10n.kde.org/$11:46
pandso firstly I want to get knowledge how to make translate and then I'm going to join to the Polish team11:47
_4strOoups without the $11:47
bahrBut If I install a c/C++ dev environment, am I then ready to start playing around with patches and things that annoy me?11:47
stud...     .?11:47
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stalker_you need .po file and kbabel app - that's it;)11:47
bahrok :)11:47
pandThanks once again : )11:47
stalker_if you can compile it, then you're ready11:47
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bahrWell I better get started now then :P11:48
stalker_take it slowly;)11:49
stalker_just don't give up on first error:)11:49
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bahrstalker_: hehe I keep that in mind :)11:49
stalker_beggining to work on someone else code is far more harder then any programming11:49
stalker_hint: take smaller apps:D11:50
_4strOstalker_: depend of the original programmer ;)11:50
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bahrstalker_: Yeah I have experience with that from my education :)11:50
stalker_but, lloking to me, i would rather write my 10.000 lines of code then add 100 in existing:)11:50
_4strOi'm trying to learn C but it's very hard :p11:51
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Simeon_Hno it isn't11:51
bahrstalker_: sometimes working with your own OLD code with out comments, can be worse to lol11:51
Simeon_Hif you use printf and scanf to output :P11:51
stalker_your code 6 months old is not your code anymore:D11:51
_4strO^^ thats the magical thing :)11:51
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stalker_printf is a joke, right?11:52
Simeon_Hno I use it11:53
stalker_dont' use printf if possible, good old debbuger is only thing you need11:53
stalker_even gdb from console is better then inserting random printf11:53
Simeon_Hmeh It's all I need to know at this bound11:53
_4strOa="is"; printf("think it %s",a);11:53
Jucato... and the magical !offtopic flag will soon be raised...11:54
Simeon_Hnext up is microcontroller asm :S11:54
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mikelimahi all.11:54
stalker_is ktorrent mature enough? (azureus mature?)11:55
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mikelimaI am a bit puzzled. I'm trying to install wine on a kubuntu feisty (AMD_64) installation.11:55
mikelimaIsn't wine supported on 64bit?11:55
mikelimabecause I can't find the package...11:55
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Jucatomikelima: I'm afraid not.11:56
mikelimaonly winelib.11:56
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mikelimaOh. Ok.11:56
Jucatomikelima: better ask in #winehq to be sure11:56
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Jucatostalker_: I guess that depends on the azureus features that you are looking for. for basic torrent needs, ktorrent is good enough, without the overhead of java11:57
mikelimaWell, thank you.11:57
stalker_last time i used it (6 months ago) and wanted to only seed existing torrent, it added 700mb to tracker (as i downloaded it:o)11:57
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Jucatostalker_: lot of versions released since that time12:00
stalker_yeah, i guess it's ok now12:01
stalker_it works ok, and jvm is'nt more in memory:)12:01
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strog_i have a porblem with using the apt-get install in the console12:06
strog_i always get an error message that it couldnt find the package12:07
strog_famous ones like kdevelop or vlc mediaplayer12:07
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strog_anybody there?\12:09
rbrunhuberCan anybody help me with debugging/testing cronjobs?12:10
stalker_better ask on #ubuntu12:10
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stalker_you cant' debug it12:14
strog_i have a problem with the apt-get install command, when i want to install vlc mediaplayer i get the error message that the package isnt there12:14
stalker_but you can `touch` some file, and see later if it's vreated12:15
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stalker_strog_: try on #ubuntu or some debian, obviously noone knows12:15
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Jucatostrog_: check if you have the correct repositories enabled. have you tried installing using Adept?12:17
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flakeis xrandr unsupported on feisty?12:22
flaketrying to link against  /usr/bin and finding some undefined references12:23
Skrot-What are you trying to compile?12:23
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flakean irrlict program12:23
phpcodedo linux have a program thats like deamon tools in windows?12:23
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flaketrying to get it to restore the desktop after fullscreen12:24
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Skrot-I think xrandr is supported12:24
Skrot-flake: You might want libxrandr-dev libxrandr2 and xlibs-dev installed though12:25
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Skrot-hum.. xlibs-dev depends on libxrandr-dev so no need to install both12:25
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tarelerulzIt there any easy way to see if  you have wep for or way to install it ?12:27
tarelerulzFor wireless connnections?12:27
flakeI already have the packages12:28
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ktardedtarelerulz: What are you trying to do?12:30
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tarelerulzWell, I will network that are not free like library and stuff and I want to know what I will need to get onto them and I thought wep was something I need12:32
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tarelerulzOn stuff like library I don't think you need something like wep ,but on not open network I would like to know what I need ?12:34
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tarelerulzKtarded , what do you think ? what do you need for stuff like coffie shop and other hot spotes12:36
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AdrenaliN198306Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me through downloading and install the orinoco wireless driver in kubuntu i38612:36
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faikanyone installed Geforce 7600 on ubuntu ?12:38
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morfejassweiki yra lt?:)12:39
faikdoes anyone speak russian ?12:39
morfejasI not12:39
faikwhere are u from ?12:40
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tarelerulzI have aunt that is Runssain . I learn the word for yes haha12:41
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faikso anyone know how to install Geforce 7600 driver on ubuntu ?12:44
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loxley_ps aux12:44
loxley_oops :)12:44
faikaux )12:45
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faikanyone play world of warcraft ) ?12:46
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tarelerulzFaik, So you have verion of warcraft tha works with wine12:47
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flakewhy is it, when playing wolf - et, the monitor goes dark and I have to calibrate the gamma to reset the brightness?12:51
flakeusing feisty12:51
flakeit's kind of annoying, wondering if it has to do with a screensaver setting or power option or something12:52
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tmulvaneyis kubuntu feisty faster than edgy due to qt4?12:58
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sercikHi people!!12:58
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Fusselwurm|w0rkfeisty uses kde3.x, just as edgy... and kde3 depends imho on qt312:59
serciki'm here to help! because i have solver all my problems with kubuntu (??)12:59
tmulvaneyis worth upgrading to?12:59
tmulvaneyit looks the same, whats under the hood01:00
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sercikfeisty is slower than edgy01:02
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lucifer_ 01:04
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Fusselwurm|w0rkubuntu, wrong channel ;)01:10
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caris_mereI need some help installing Kubuntu01:17
caris_mereI am installing with disk. it now says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off01:17
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caris_mereWhat does this mean? /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off01:20
caris_mereI can't get my computer to start up the live disk01:21
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Stardog! tar.bz201:37
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression01:37
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Stardogso... I have a file wich is kompressed in tar.bz2..... it wont open with ark... or.. it opens in a window... but nothing will apear... anyone know why?01:39
Skrot-Stardog: Try "bunzip2 yourfile.tar.bz2" in a shell01:40
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darkolaushello everybody01:41
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darkolausi have a question with KPPP, may I ask?01:41
seishinbyougood evening01:41
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:41
sherinhey guys01:41
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StardogSkrot-: k... thx01:41
darkolausok iv just installed kubuntu 7.0401:42
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darkolausand when i start KPPP error message appears:01:42
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darkolaus/etc/resolv.conf is missing or can't be read!01:42
darkolausAsk your system administrator to create this file (can be empty) with appropriate read and write permissions.01:42
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nate_so whos next inline to help with my simple yet gay problem lol01:42
darkolauswhen i try to create the file01:42
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darkolausi cant, that is i dont have permitions01:42
darkolausim a linux novice01:43
darkolausso any help is appreciated01:43
Skrot-darkolaus: Do you know how to access the shell/terminal?01:43
darkolausi think so01:43
Skrot-Or command line interface01:43
Skrot-Whatever it's called :p01:43
darkolausi know01:43
dhqhey i have nvdia grafix card mx 4 i dont know how to get it to work01:43
darkolausi need to do a sudo thingy01:43
Skrot-Maybe, lets see01:43
darkolausok lets see01:44
Skrot-Open the command line interface and enter "cat /etc/resolv.conf" -- let me know if that returns anything01:44
Skrot-Without the "'s around01:44
darkolausps im on windows now01:44
seishinbyounvidia?  Did you install the restricted drivers?01:44
darkolausbut ok i can hybernate and then return here01:44
Skrot-If you can return here while in linux, why do you need KPPP?01:45
dhqhey i have nvdia grafix card mx 4 i dont know how to get it to work01:45
seishinbyouwhat isn't working01:45
darkolausno no no ill try what you said01:45
Skrot-darkolaus: ah hold on01:45
darkolauson kubuntu and then return to windows01:45
Skrot-darkolaus: You've got something to write on?01:45
flakedhq - are you running feisty01:45
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dhqflake, yes01:46
flakeget driver from linux website01:46
dhqflake, huh01:46
seishinbyouI did mine by installing "restricted-manager"01:46
flakedoh from nvidia website01:46
seishinbyouand using that to get the nvidia drivers01:46
flakemy bad01:46
Skrot-darkolaus: Okay, try "cat /etc/resolv.conf" first. If that says no such file or something similar, try "sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf;sudo chmod 755 /etc/resolv.conf"01:46
flakeand be in terminal - non-gui mode, to install it01:46
darkolausskrot-: ok thanx ill try it01:46
dhqflake, i installed nvidia-glx it doent load the module01:47
nate_well, heres the deal, ive install fiesty on my laptop, all went well, update, got berly going, installed some apps. i dont know what i did but all the little icons in the bottom right next to the clock are gone, and even tho i right click, add times, the ones i want arent there, main one is knetwork manager, so i can use mu wireless, how the hell do i get them all back there? :( also my sound is borked, but after some googling thats going to be a pain in the01:47
flakestill need the driver from nvidia01:47
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seishinbyoubeh, for the nvidia thing, I just did "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager" from a terminal, ran it, clicked the nvidia box, entered a password, and after restarting X, *poof* much happiness01:48
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:48
Skrot-nate_: Right click the kicker panel (the one where the clock is) -> Add Applet to Panel -> System Tray -- if it's not on that list something else is wrong.01:49
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nate_ok i did that, the only things that came up where, the speaker, clip board, and battery :(01:51
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Skrot-nate_: Then start the other apps.. "knetworkmanager" for instance01:51
Skrot-nate_: If it doesnt appear after that, try "killall knetworkmanager" and start it again01:51
nate_yay, its there, thanks heaps, also, my boot process takes a while, it pauses on looking for resume image, even when i shut down01:53
nate_adds a good 15seconds or so01:53
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XtacyIS there a problem with nvidia on fiesty ?01:53
Skrot-Ive got nvidia on feisty without any trouble01:54
seishinbyouNot for me...01:54
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soviet  01:57
seishinbyouIs it possible to have SCIM allow for input from two different keyboards in two different layouts in the same time? (i.e. Japanese on the QWERTY, Arabic on the DVORAK)01:57
nate__how do i turn off the mouse over info in the tabs, it looks crap cause the beryl ones are working01:57
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seishinbyounate__: In the System Settings,02:00
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soviet  .   ;;02:00
seishinbyouActually, right click the panel and go to settings02:00
seishinbyouIn the "Appearance" section02:00
seishinbyouuncheck the "General" boxes02:00
seishinbyouI'm not using an English interface, so I don't know what it is in English02:00
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flakedhq, are you doing ok with it so far02:04
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nate__any ideas on how to get  a intel HDA card working :( its the only thing make me sad now02:04
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Skrot-Funny.. my intel hda card worked out of the box02:04
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Skrot-nate__: lsmod | grep snd return anything02:05
nate__shouldi paste here?02:06
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dhqflake, do i have to install build-essentials02:07
Skrot-No, no need. Did it return "snd_hda_intel" and "snd_hda_codec"?02:07
Skrot-Among others02:07
nate__ill look02:07
nate__nate@natious:~$  lsmod | grep snd02:07
nate__snd_hda_intel          21912  502:07
nate__snd_hda_codec         205440  1 snd_hda_intel02:07
Skrot-right. Try starting kmix and check that the sound isn't muted02:07
flakewouldn't hurt02:07
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dhqflake, flake ???02:08
darkolausthanx skrot- that worked02:08
flakedhq  I'm here, it wouldn't hurt02:08
Skrot-darkolaus: No problem. You're online from linux now?02:08
darkolausno i have just one more problem02:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:08
darkolaushow to find out where my winmodem is linked i tried /dev/modem02:08
Skrot-No idea about winmodem .|02:09
flakedid you see the nvidia instructions on installing the driver?02:09
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darkolausok nvmind02:09
darkolausdoes anyone knows?02:09
BluesKajhowdy all :)02:09
Skrot-darkolaus: Are you trying to connect using dial-up modem?02:09
dhqflake, where do i see02:09
darkolausskrot-: yes02:09
dhqflake, just help me02:09
flakeyou say it is geforce 4 series?02:09
nate__the 2 top ones were full, bottom one was half, and how do you force kill apps, amarok keeps freezing everytime i try and place somthing02:09
dhqflake, yes02:10
Skrot-darkolaus: Might want to have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto02:10
flakequadro fx 4600 or 560002:10
flakethat type?02:10
darkolausdial-up modem = winmodem02:10
darkolausskrot: ok i'll look02:10
flakeselect Graphics Driver, cardtype, then os02:10
flakeit will take you to the screen w/ instructions02:11
Dekkardhow do you get mp3 playback with noatun?02:11
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darkolausskrot-: ok thanx i found smth that i think is usable, your the best02:13
flakeyou can't install the nvidia driver while kde is up, I believe02:13
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flakedhq what's your status02:14
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dhqflake, just a sec02:16
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dhqflake, nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)02:17
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flakeyes you want the gforce 4 series driver02:18
flakeI assume you are on a 32-bit os, so here:  http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9755.html02:18
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flakeclick on supported products on left and you'll see your card in the list02:19
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nate_what are some must have apps for linux?02:22
flakeopen office, MM3D02:22
flakewine if you want to try running some of your windows stuff02:23
nate_whats MM3D? i have office and gimp02:23
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nate_and is there away to have widgets? and change the clock to 12hr lol02:23
flakemm3d is if you want to build some basic 3d models and animate them02:24
Jucato!superkaramba | nate_02:24
ubotunate_: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org02:24
flakeyou have to build from source though02:24
Jucatonate_: to change to 12-hour, right-click on the clock -> Date & Time Format -> Date & Time tab02:24
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ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo02:25
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nate_is there away to emulate xp in linx and have full support on everything? or the best would be to dual boot for gaming02:27
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flakefor gaming, best to dual boot imo - emulating xp is like putting a volvo engine in a lambroughini02:27
seishinbyouFor gaming, if it won't run under wine, then dual boot02:27
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seishinbyouVMWare is available, but you won't get native speed on 3d graphics02:27
seishinbyouIt is more than sufficient for things like photoshop and msoffice if you need it02:28
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seishinbyouor any work-related windows-only software02:28
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nate_oh ok, thats handy02:28
seishinbyouqemu is the free alternative to vmware02:28
seishinbyoukqemu is the accelerated version I think02:28
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Jucatokqemu is an accelerator of sorts for qemu. it's not a qemu version (afaik)02:29
flakecan qemu handle windows 98 for the older games, including the directx3-6 range?02:29
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nate_its funny that wireless worked out the box with kubuntu but didnt for xp/vista, ive migrated from xp>vista>xp>osx86>xp>kubuntu, abit confusing, but seems nicer02:29
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seishinbyouPossibly, but I haven't tried.  I could try firing up Diablo or something02:30
seishinbyoudosbox is good for the older dos games02:30
seishinbyoudepends on what you are running, actually02:30
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nate_are there any "special repositories" if you know whati mean, and is a anti virus needed on linux?02:32
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flakemech 2 mercenaries - titanium, and mech 2 titanium02:32
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flakewine wouldn't handle it, or something about my xrander libs but everything seems up to date02:33
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nate_is there a better kernel i should be using with a core duo?02:35
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flakedhq how are you doing02:38
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seishinbyoumech 2 mercs?  Dosbox should be able to handle that02:41
seishinbyounate_: anti-virus on Linux?  Erm...you could try using Wine to run Kapersky if you *really* wanted02:42
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llutzantivirus: amavis, clamav, f-prot (all native linux, no wine required)02:43
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ubuntuahoj potrebuju pomoct ohledne linux kubuntu02:43
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Jucato!cz | ubuntu02:43
ubotuubuntu: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.02:43
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seishinbyouBut I remember using f-prot02:45
seishinbyou(old DOS version)02:45
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serciksomeone is interested to a program like babylon in windows??02:51
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skanehow i can open reposites in kubuntu 6.06 LTS?? thx02:51
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_4strOskane: kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list02:52
RobNyc-workHello, as I'm using xchat on gnome each channel is highlighted in red when i receive messages, but here in kubuntu it doesnt work like that02:52
Jucato!repositories | skane02:52
ubotuskane: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:52
_4strOskane: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list02:52
sercikis a program that tranlate on the fly02:52
sercikfrom many to many languages02:52
Jucato!info kbabel02:52
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ubotukbabel: PO-file editing suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1664 kB, installed size 5380 kB02:53
skanethx veru much02:53
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sercikJucato: i have found a procedure and a great guide to use babylon dictionary and convert it to .dict02:53
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MementoMorihi all02:53
sercikif someone is interested...02:53
dhqflake, pm please02:53
MementoMoriI have a problem install kubuntu on a i386 pc02:53
stdincan someone with a fresh feisty install check if there is a drop down menu on top of the configure panel dialog, from right-clicking the panel and choosing "Configure Panel..."?02:53
seishinbyoutranslation on the fly is a real pot-shot, but it depends on your source material02:53
seishinbyoustdin: yes02:54
sercikMementoMori: what do you need??02:54
flakedhq ok one sec02:54
stdinseishinbyou: like this? http://www.zone.ee/zeroconf/errors/kubuntu_7-04_taskbar_changes_not_working/kubuntu_6-10_KDE_3-5-4.png02:54
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MementoMoriI did text install from dvd and put grub in mbr but after reboot  grud loads until stage 1.5 and then it says "Error 17"02:54
seishinbyouright click, go to $B%Z%M%k%a%K%e!<(B and select $B%Q%M%k$N@_Dj(B02:55
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MementoMoriI saw a strange thing while I was installing the system02:56
serciki have found a guide in italian that say the problem could be a alsa module02:56
MementoMoriI have only a ide hd on primary master and two dvd device on secondary channel02:57
MementoMoribut installer saw my hd as sda02:57
seishinbyoustdin: I see02:57
MementoMoriinstead of hda02:57
seishinbyouIf you don't have 2 panels, I don't know if that is displayed02:57
serciki don't know why but sometimes happens, this shouldn't be a problem02:57
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llutzMementoMori: sda because of the libata, all ide-devices are mapped now into sdX02:57
sercikdo you have a linux live cd??02:57
stdinseishinbyou: it normally is, and I do have 2 panels02:58
seishinbyoustdin: Oh.  Just a second.  I'll try some things02:58
MementoMorillutz: ok so sda/hda name swapping isnt a problem02:58
MementoMoribut what about grub error?02:58
sercikno don't worry02:58
sercikyou can try to reinstall grub02:58
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MementoMoriI have a generi floppy disk with grub02:59
MementoMorimay I use it?02:59
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stdinseishinbyou: I didn't notice it missing before, but someone posted a message to the mailinglist saying it was missing. and it is for me on a new install, but it's there on a system upgraded from edgy02:59
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MementoMorior there is a way to boot from dvd in rescue mode?02:59
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sercikif you can access to your linux partition you can send me your menu.lst file03:00
sercikthe problem should be that grub is not able to mount partition03:00
Jucatostdin: what's missing?03:00
sercikprobably because an error in menu.lst03:00
RobNyc-workHello, as I'm using xchat on gnome each channel is highlighted in red when i receive messages, but here in kubuntu it doesnt work like that .. anyone else using xchat ?03:00
MementoMorisercik: I'll try to access the disk but gimme just 10 minutes, ok?03:00
serciki'm here03:01
stdinJucato: the panel chooser dropdown menu: http://www.zone.ee/zeroconf/errors/kubuntu_7-04_taskbar_changes_not_working/kubuntu_6-10_KDE_3-5-4.png03:01
MementoMoriok thank you03:01
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seishinbyoustdin: Okay, that might be the case03:01
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seishinbyouI'm on an upgraded system03:01
Jucatostdin: is it your problem? just restart kicker03:01
sercikRobNyc-work: i like konversation as irc client03:01
seishinbyouI would have to install a new system to try03:01
sercikis already installed in kubuntu03:01
Jucatoafaik it's a KDE 3.5.5-.6 intermittent bug03:01
RobNyc-worksercik, i dont think there are any scripts for it like sysinfo ones03:01
stdinJucato: I have it too, but others have it (it was reported on the mailing list)03:01
sercikRobNyc-work: i don't use script sorry!03:02
Jucatostdin: yeah it's sort of a bug that I still haven't been able to pin down03:02
sercikyou can tri to wun mirc wirth wine!03:02
sercikyou can try to run mirc wirth wine!03:02
seishinbyouwhy would you do that?03:02
stdinJucato: restarting kicker doesn't solve it here03:02
Jucatostdin: "dcop kicker kicker restart" doesn't work?03:03
seishinbyoukonversation isn't going to save the world, but I don't have a problem with it, and it works with international character sets just fine03:03
seishinbyoumIRC keeps screwing up the CJK encoding for me :(03:03
robewaldhi, how can i make the java console visible in firefox?03:03
stdinJucato: it restarted kicker, but didn't bring back the dropdown menu03:03
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sercikseishinbyou: i like konversation its clean and speed and works good for me03:04
Jucatostdin: hm... can you try looking into kcontrol itself? and do you have 2 panels right now?03:04
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stdinJucato: ahh, it just showed up03:05
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stdinJucato: strange little bug there03:05
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DJServershi all03:06
Jucatothe fact that it's so intermittent makes it annoying even more03:06
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sercikcan i have krandrtray in kubuntu??03:08
serciki like it but i can't find03:08
sercikor to have another tool in tray that permit to switch resolution??03:08
Jucatohm? Alt+F2, "krandrtray"03:09
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serciki'm stupid!!03:10
serciki search in apt-cache and in synaptic but i wan not able to find it03:10
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MementoMorisercik: ok. I have menu.lst03:10
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
seishinbyoukrandrtray, woot.  Now I can run at 320x24003:11
makkiafter update no taskbar!! please help to return it03:11
sercikMementoMori: paste that03:11
MementoMorisercik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21127/03:11
sercikthat you need to explain me: how much hard disk do you have??03:11
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seishinbyoumakki: right click the panel.  "Add to Panel"  Select Taskbar03:12
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Jucatosercik: it's because it's not in a separate package. krandrtray is part of kdebase03:12
MementoMorisercik: I have sda1: windows; sda2: swap; sda3: /; sda4: /home03:12
sercikJucato: thank you!!03:12
sercikMementoMori: do you have only one HD??03:12
sercikand is configured as primary master??03:13
MementoMorisercik: yes03:13
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sercikare you able to start other OS?03:13
MementoMorisercik: no because of grub error03:13
sercikah so you don't see list of operating system?03:14
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MementoMorigrub stop working before menu loads03:14
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MementoMorino. grub stop at stage 1.5 with error 1703:15
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sercikcan you edit menu.lst file??03:15
orient2000Hi! I have some problem with Evolution. I have only one font style. No bold characters for e-mail or diferent size. Do I miss some any packages?03:15
MementoMoriyes I can because I booted with a finnix live cd03:15
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sercikprobably if you can't see list of operating system the problem is in grub and not in menu.lst you can try for a guide in internet..03:16
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sercikit is possible to copy grub in a floppy and start the system with it03:17
MementoMorisercik: how can I do this?03:17
sercikyou can also try to substitute hd0 with sd0 in menu.lst03:17
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sercikbut first you could delete grub from mbr at least you could boot windows xp03:18
sercikyou need a dos boot disk and do the command fdisk /mbr03:18
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seishinbyouwill that work on a usb clipdrive, too?03:19
seishinbyouassuming you can boot from usb03:19
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MementoMoriwhat should I copy to the floppy to have a grub shell on boot?03:20
serciki have a guide but is in italian03:20
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MementoMorisercik: this is great because I'm italian ;)03:20
seishinbyoulucky night03:21
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sercikwait a minute i search it03:22
serciki remeber bad i have found the guide but is in english but i don't think this is a problem for you03:23
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seishinbyouwow, ntfs tools didn't choke on my ntfs drive03:23
seishinbyouwill wonders never cease03:24
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seishinbyouWhich is great because Windows chokes on that drive03:24
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DJServersi have a question03:25
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stdin!ask | DJServers03:26
ubotuDJServers: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:26
DJServersi have downloaded an MTA Server but when i try t install it in konsole i typ: sudo apt-get install mta_server but then it says cannot find tthe file03:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:27
seishinbyoujust checking :)03:27
DJServerssomebody nows i need the server before saturday03:27
BluesKajDJServers, to what folder where did you downloads the file ?03:28
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DJServersto; /home/frank/MTA-Server03:29
BluesKajwhat kind of file is it ?03:29
DJServerswait a sec03:29
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jakelightshelp please what is the command if my adept crashes?03:30
DJServersehm.. how to say it in english it is an useble file or something:P i am from hollan so03:31
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stdin!aptfix | jakelights03:31
ubotujakelights: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:31
BluesKajDJServers, what's the file extension ?03:32
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DJServerswhere can i see that?03:33
ubotupostfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto03:33
BluesKajusually the last couple of letters in the file name03:33
DJServersBleusKaj, where can i see that ?03:34
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BluesKajthe name of the file03:34
DJServersthere just stand mta_server03:35
DJServersnot any more03:35
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BluesKajDJServers, http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMailMTA.html#MTA03:38
DJServersBleusKaj. what to do now?03:38
stdinor use postfix03:38
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DJServersand that is03:38
DJServersbut its an game server03:38
ubotupostfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto03:38
DJServersno no not the MTA Mail Server03:38
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DJServersthe MTA Game Server For GTA San Andreas03:39
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stdinwhere did you download it from?03:39
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BluesKajDJServers, http://wiki.mtasa.com/index.php?title=MTA:SA_Race-Linux_Server_Guide03:40
DJServersi have a look there03:41
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ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)03:43
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ubuntuhi, hab rger mit der kubuntu installation. kann mir jemand helfen?03:46
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dergringoubuntu: #kubuntu-de03:47
Jucato!de | ubuntu03:47
ubotuubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:47
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:49
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BluesKajwhat's the best way to preserve grub (dual boot) while reinstalling windows ?03:49
Jucatothere is no way... you will have to reinstall grub03:50
JucatoWindows doesn't really give you the choice not to install it's own bootloader03:50
BluesKajok , wife insists on the windows option til she gets used to edgy.03:51
Jucatoreinstall windows, then reinstall grub03:51
stdinvmware not an option?03:51
BluesKajshe's very reluctant03:51
Jucatoor that03:51
BluesKaj not on her old pc03:52
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stdinjust follow the reinstalling grub guide then03:52
BluesKajright , I have the supergrub cd03:53
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mo0osahHow do I make the user list visible in konversation03:54
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DJServersX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16903:57
DJServers  Major opcode:  14503:57
DJServers  Minor opcode:  303:57
DJServers  Resource id:  0x003:57
DJServersFailed to open device03:57
_4str1!baddevice | DJServers03:57
ubotuDJServers: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors03:57
DJServersX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16903:58
DJServers  Major opcode:  14503:58
DJServers  Minor opcode:  303:58
DJServers  Resource id:  0x003:58
DJServersFailed to open device03:58
DJServerskdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 1103:58
DJServersi get that03:58
DJServerso thx03:58
mo0osahIs it possible to make konversation transparent?03:58
AFaithhello people03:58
AFaithhave a question03:58
AFaithdoes anyone of you know03:58
AFaithwhat happens on pclinuxos irc channel ?03:58
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sercikAFaith: yesterday you asked how to create a .deb package??03:59
AFaithsercik: yes :P03:59
serciki have created three .deb03:59
sercikbut i suspect that they are not able to check dependendies03:59
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AFaithsercik: i've found a very good tutorial on howtoforge04:00
AFaithabout creating deb packages04:00
sercikthe program is checkinstall you need only to ./configure and then you need to do sudo checkinstall04:00
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AFaithyes, i referring on the same program :)04:00
sercikat the end you have a backup a .deb qnd the software already installed04:00
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serciki need the last thing to make my kubuntu perfect... an installation of win2k with usb working04:02
AFaithsercik: i don't understand04:02
AFaithwhats the connection between a perfect kubuntu and win2k ?04:03
serciki mean win2k virtualized under kubuntu04:03
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serciki have tried but i'm not able to do usb working04:03
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AFaithoh... i see04:04
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pgquilesis there anything like manedit for KDE?04:06
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DJServershttp://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors  i cant change the xorg.conf then it says connot be saved no acces to this file04:09
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DJServersonly the owner can change the acces04:09
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_4strODJServers: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:11
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unixguru88what is java path which is to be set in opera04:12
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DJServersi cant rewirt the .conf file04:16
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seishinbyouI just use "sudo vi xorg.conf", but you would have to know the vi commands04:16
_4strODJServers: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:16
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DJServersyeah i can open it but when i changed it i cant save it04:17
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DJServersthats the prob04:17
_4strODJServers: ??? you type 'kdesu' ?04:17
DJServerswhere to type? in konsole ?04:18
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_4strODJServers: yes, type : kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:18
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free04:18
neurobughi everyone04:18
_4strOlast time i say it to you ...04:18
neurobugsomebody help meeeeeee!04:19
_4strO!ask | neurobug04:19
ubotuneurobug: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:19
DJServerslook now i get this wait a sec04:19
neurobugI changed the screen resolution to 1440x900 but when I reboot the pc, the resolution is 1024x768 again04:20
DJServerskbuildsycoca running...04:20
DJServerskio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!04:20
DJServersInvalid entry (missing '=') at /tmp/kde-root/kconf_updateKARzQa.tmp:104:20
DJServerskdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:20
seishinbyouneurobug: using a thinkpad?04:20
_4strODJServers: dont paste plz04:20
_4strOi know what you have ...04:20
DJServersok srry04:20
DJServershey it open04:20
seishinbyouhooray for modern technology04:20
DJServersbut can i now change it?04:20
seishinbyouyou're the one with the keyboard04:21
_4strODJServers: you open it as the root user (kdesu) so you can do everything04:21
DJServersokay thx04:21
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DJServersits saved thx you!! very much!! no lets see if the server rins04:22
_4strOneurobug: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?04:22
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neurobugI'm using a laptop: hp pavilion dv900004:23
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neurobugThe nvidia driver are succesully configured04:24
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_4strOneurobug: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?04:24
stylegood morning04:24
_4strOyop style04:24
DJServers_4str0 how to delete the backup file: xorg.conf-old04:24
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stylehi _4strO04:25
_4strODJServers: why you wanna delete this file04:25
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DJServerswell i still get the same error when i open my server04:25
_4strOis you have any pb one day, it could be usefull to have a correct backup04:25
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DJServersyeah but now my server still dunst work04:25
DJServerswait a sec04:26
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neurobugnop, i can't paste it... the Konversation blocks the flood04:26
_4strODJServers: if you have modify something in your xorg.conf you have to reload your X server04:26
DJServersi still get the same error04:26
NiceGuyUK!paste > neurobug04:26
DJServershow to do that?04:26
DJServersi am new whit linux04:26
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_4strO!paste | neurobug04:26
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ubotuneurobug: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:27
NiceGuyUKlol, thx _4strO04:27
DJServershow to restart X Server ?04:27
sercikDJServers: listen me04:27
NiceGuyUKDJServers: CTRL-ALT and Backspace04:27
sercikpress ctrl-alt-F104:27
_4strODJServers: close your session and reopen it or just ctrl-alt-backsapce (will close the session)04:27
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sercikyou go in console04:27
sercikthen you need to do sudo /etc/init,d/kdm stop04:27
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sercikthen you can try to edit your xorg.conf04:28
sercikand you can try to start X with command startx04:28
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_4strOsercik: [16:27]  <-- DJServers a quitt ce serveur (Remote closed the connection).04:28
sercikso you can see error in console and you can search on google fot that error or ask gere04:28
sercik_4strO: probably he hace pressed ctrl-alt-F1 too soon :)04:29
_4strOsercik: ctrl-alt-backspace i think04:29
sercikis to close X04:30
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sercikbut kdm always restart itself04:30
_4strOi know i know ...04:30
NiceGuyUKbetter than ALT-SysReq-S,U,B I suppose ;-)04:30
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NiceGuyUKsercik: kernel level reset04:31
serciki don't know that command couls you explain better?04:31
seishinbyouYou could rip the power cable out, plug it back in and boot again, but I'm impatient04:31
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NiceGuyUKsercik: that combination of keys sync's disks, unmounts them, then reboots the machine04:31
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NiceGuyUKsercik: useful when things lock up completely, cos its at kernel level so normally works in emergencies04:32
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sercikbut which is the key sysreq??04:32
sercikS.U.B. i don't understand04:32
NiceGuyUKsercik: shared key with PrintScreen04:32
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main2does kubuntu have a firewall turned on by default?!04:34
NiceGuyUKsercik: means hold the ALT and SysReq keys, then press S then U then B (BUT NOT NOW! ;-) )04:34
sercikincrebible combination!!04:34
NiceGuyUKdesigned so you don't press it by accident :-)04:35
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NiceGuyUKmain2: no, but it doesn't have many ports open by default either04:35
serciki can't resist i need to try!!04:35
_4strONiceGuyUK: what about iptable N04:36
seishinbyoumain2: lokkit, guarddog are available04:37
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seishinbyouhaven't tried firestarter04:37
NiceGuyUK_4strO: I think its installed but not enabled.  could be wrong though04:37
NiceGuyUKsercik: see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/457 for more magix SysReq commands04:37
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serciktry kmyfirewall is very complete and have a nice interface04:37
seishinbyouiptables is there by default, though04:37
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sercikNiceGuyUK: you are a Guru nice to meet you04:37
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mo0osahhow do you minimize firefox to tray04:38
sercikthe name of my girlfriend is cristina :) but she don't like pc04:38
dromerI'm trying to install the ubuntu.deb of BALLview: http://www.ballview.org/BALL/Downloads/BV-1.1.1/  but I'm having unmet dependecies: python2.304:38
dromerbut I can't get python2.3 from the repo's04:38
sercikso you are not she04:38
dromercan I use 2.4 or 2.5 instead?04:38
NiceGuyUKdromer: best thing is to just try I think04:39
dromerer, is that the _best_ thing?04:39
dromerI was hopeng advice from someone ith experience could help me better ;)04:39
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flyingyellowpighi there'04:40
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seishinbyouDoes the "windows" key have a function by default in KDE (am I missing something if I don't have that key?)04:41
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sercikno it doesn't04:42
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seishinbyouOkay then.  No loss04:42
dromerhmm, I really need python 2.3 I guess, the program can't run on 2.4 or 2.5 (which I already have installed ..)04:42
NiceGuyUKdromer: 2.3 hasn't been offered in the repos since the old Warty release.  I'd try to find a 2.3 deb from Google or something04:43
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flyingyellowpigdoes anyone in here have tried fedora 7 or fedora core?04:43
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NiceGuyUKdromer: do they offer a source tarball of the app instead of the deb ?04:43
seishinbyouwhy wouldn't you want the deb for (k)ubuntu?04:44
amikhi all, I have a question about Kate search/replace regex syntax04:44
seishinbyoudpkg -i (package).deb04:44
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seishinbyoureplacing what with what?04:44
NiceGuyUKseishinbyou: cos of dependency issues04:44
dromerNiceGuyUK: http://www.ballview.org/BALL/Downloads/BV-1.1.1/04:44
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amikhow do I specify a placeholder in the replace string if it's followed by a digit?04:45
dromerNiceGuyUK: ok, http://www.ballview.org/Downloads/Releases/BALL-1.1.1.tar.gz04:45
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NiceGuyUKdromer: are you familiar with compiling from code or would you need help ?04:46
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dromerNiceGuyUK: I _have_ done it before, but I don't do it that often, I could use some help yes ;)04:46
NiceGuyUKhmm, if its python, its not compiled anyway04:46
NiceGuyUKI'm downloading it to take a look04:46
dromerok thnx :)04:47
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amikfor example, moving digits 3,4 in a 4 digit number to positions 2,3: "10([0-9] [0-9] )" -> "1\10"04:47
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seishinbyoumy mind is a blank for that; I'd just give up and use a perl/python script, but I'm funny that wayu04:49
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Daisuke_Idodecided to bind win+k to konqueror.  it crashed kicker :\04:51
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sparrwwhen i click a system tray icon and it opens/displays a window, i would like that window to appear on the current desktop.  is that possible at a WM/DE level?04:51
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sparrwDaisuke_Ido: im still trying to figure out why two kubuntu installs from the same disc have different kde hotkeys.  one has alt+f2 for the run dialog, the other has win+r04:51
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Daisuke_Idothat is odd04:52
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mo0osahis there a disk management tool in kde04:54
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ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter04:54
seishinbyoulike what, gparted?04:54
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NiceGuyUKdromer: they hard-coded the dependency to a particular version.  You could edit the deb and make it more generic I suppose04:55
mo0osahno like just something to see how much space you have on your disks04:55
dromerNiceGuyUK: hmm, how could I do that? :$04:55
NiceGuyUKmo0osah: from a console, try df -h04:55
sparrwamik: good luck re kate regex...  its horrible04:56
dromerNiceGuyUK: I'd really like to try this software04:56
NiceGuyUKdromer: open the deb with Ark, extract control.tar.gz, open that with Ark, edit the file called control04:56
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NiceGuyUKdromer: then archive it back up again04:56
NiceGuyUKmessy, but it might work04:56
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amiksparrw: thanx :-) but I'm just wondering if there's an undocumented way of doing it, or if it's a bug (I get an error message looking for placeholder number 10)04:57
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mo0osahNiceGuyUK, thanks04:57
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dromerNiceGuyUK: hmm :S04:58
mo0osahNiceGuyUK, there's nothing graphically equivalent?04:58
dromermaybe next time :S04:58
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about processes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:58
amikthough maybe the fact that it's undocumented can be filed as a bug anyway...04:58
mo0osah!process manager04:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about process manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:58
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sparrwamik: afaik, the entire regex part of kate is undocumented04:58
seishinbyouprocesses?  ps -ax04:59
seishinbyouparamaters vary04:59
NiceGuyUKdromer: in the source package is a debian folder, with an install script for making it from source04:59
NiceGuyUKmight be easier04:59
amiksparrw: IM doing my best to migrate from Windows, but this system just has so many loose ends interfering with day to day work :-(05:00
amikthis is just one small one amongst many05:00
flyingyellowpigWhich one is better fedora core/7 or kubuntu?05:00
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sparrwamik: i moved from textpad on windows to kate on linux, so everything was an improvement.  if youre used to something like ultraedit then youre in for a small step down  :(05:00
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FlosoftI want to add an Epson Stylus C66 to my printers05:01
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amiksparrw: I actually used both TextPad and Notepad++. TextPad can do a whole lot of stuff I'm really missing (or were u referring to Notepad? no argument there...)05:01
Flosoftbut when I want to add a printer connected to USB, what URI do I need to put in?05:02
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aaroncampbellWhat do you guys use for downloading from SVN repositories?05:02
sparrwamik: i meant textpad.  what do you miss?05:02
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sparrwFlosoft: hmm...  is it not being detected?05:02
Flosoftwell no :S05:02
Jucato!away > Freejack_CSI05:02
Flosofthow can I check?05:03
sparrwamik: ridiculously undocumented and incorrect regex implementation is something i definitely dont miss from textpad05:03
amiksparrw: macros, marking lines in a search and then copying/deleting just those, and other stuff05:03
amiksparrw: I used regexes regularly there too - never had much of a problem05:04
sparrwyou may want to consider kdevelop05:04
Jucatosparrw: this not enough documentation? http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kate/regular-expressions.html05:04
sparrweven for non-programming stuff, its a much more robust editor05:04
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amiksparrw: so my 'quick' workaround is the kate textfilter plugin and learning awk from scratch...05:04
Jucato(funny thing is, KDevelop is actually just using Kate)05:05
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NiceGuyUKdromer: I'm close to a solution....05:05
sparrwkdevelop is NOT "using kate"05:05
amiksparrw: I find learning tools a good experience generally. but when I'm in a rush, learning new cli tools just takes a bit too long...05:05
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sparrwthey both use the kde editor element05:05
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows05:05
Jucatosparrw: it uses katepart05:05
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sparrwjust like kedit05:05
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Jucatokedit is very far from it all05:06
sparrwand what is katepart based on?05:06
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sparrwthats like saying kate uses konsole05:06
Jucatokatepart isn't based on anything05:06
Jucatoit's in kdelibs05:06
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Jucatono, I'm saying that KDevelop, just like Quanta, is using the katepart in kdelibs, which is basically kate's, for the text editing/writing functions05:07
sparrwas to documentation...  thats actually news to me.  im glad they finally admitted that their implementation isnt compatible with anyone elses, although i had figured that out already05:07
dromerNiceGuyUK: wow thnx!05:07
Flosoftanyone able to help me detect my printer?05:08
Flosoftand install it?05:08
amiksparrw: oh yes, a few wierd backslashes here and there... but the docs iirc were full and consistent - I always ended up being able to do what I aimed to do05:08
amikbtw I'm a noob but I do recall seeing somewhere that kwrite and kate use the same backend (so I just stuck with kate anyway)05:09
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Jucatoamik: yes they do05:10
JucatoKDevelop, Quanta, KWrite, Kate05:10
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amikanyway, for my particular daily tasks, textpad offers much more functionality. I know I can get more using classic command line tools and scripts, but it would be darn nice having them as a toolbar button in Kate.05:11
Flosoftwhat is the URI I need to enter for the USB printer?05:11
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amikoh and another thing (maybe possible but I didn't figure it out yet) - in textpad was possible to save settings per document types05:14
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amike.g. for python files save tabs as spaces, but not for other files05:15
amikhehe... I said 'was possible'... I guess I'm already leaning more on the Kubuntu side than on Windows :-))05:15
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icecruncherwhat do you type into the comandline to remove a broken program?05:18
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NiceGuyUKicecruncher: kill05:18
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:18
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icecruncheri mena unistall05:19
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NiceGuyUKicecruncher: how was it installed?05:19
icecrunchervia terminal05:19
icecruncherbut interrupted05:19
NiceGuyUKicecruncher: was it from source, from the repositories or from some other method?05:19
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icecruncherNiceGuyUK: deb file05:20
Jucatoicecruncher: the installation was interrupted? try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"05:20
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bassgoonwell, I'd have to say, that as far as I can tell, ubuntu still isn't ready for the average user05:21
bassgoonwhen I went to install gaim, it asked for the install cd, and it couldn't find the cd05:22
bassgoonI had to use term to mount it in /cdrom05:22
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seishinbyouyou didn't get it from the net?05:22
bassgoonwell...when I used add programs...it wanted the disc05:22
Jucatomaybe because he didn't have his CD-ROM repository disabled05:23
Jucatojust as simple as that05:23
NiceGuyUKbassgoon: sounds like a quirk of you're setup rather than a Ubuntu fault as such05:23
bassgoonwell...what I'm saying is that if an average user is going to use it...it should just work05:23
seishinbyouWhen I did an install without my ethernet cable plugged in, the default apt/sources list only had the CDROM as the source05:24
NiceGuyUKmy mother uses it - it just works :)05:24
seishinbyouthat was with Dapper *I think*05:24
icecruncheris broken or not fully installed05:24
icecrunchererror when trying to reconfig05:24
bassgoonI mean...I dunno why it wouldn't mount the cd right05:24
bassgoonwell...it was mounted right05:24
NiceGuyUKicecruncher: sudo aptitude remove --purge <program name>05:24
bassgoonjust not where it was supposed to be05:24
NiceGuyUKicecruncher: then try reinstalling05:24
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toughHI All05:25
bigdad1ewhats a good program to emulate windows? besides wine05:25
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NiceGuyUKbigdad1e: after WINE, you're better looking at virtualization rather than emulation05:25
seishinbyoubigdad1e: qemu or vmware if you want virtualization05:25
bigdad1eno i just want to use windows active sync for my phones05:26
NiceGuyUKbigdad1e: me too, its not gonna work for some time yet05:26
NiceGuyUKbigdad1e: there are some attempts to make it work natively, depending on what version of Smartphone you have05:26
bigdad1ehp 651505:27
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NiceGuyUKbigdad1e: as in Smartphone 2003 or SmartPhone 2005 for the OS05:27
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bigdad1ei need to reinstall the rom so i can unlock it but ... i donno how to do it with linux05:27
Jucatobigdad1e: there are some things that could provide you with that function. try researching on opensync and synce05:27
toughbigdadle - there is an excellent virtual box I've used named VirtualBox - it works great and is free.05:27
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bigdad1eive tried all the sync programs for linux and could never get even one to work with my old nokia05:28
Jucatothe thing is... in virtualization... the virtual OS will only be able to use hardware that is properly detected by the host OS (Linux)05:28
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toughhmmm that's something i didn't know05:29
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NiceGuyUKseishinbyou: it is USB, but newer windows Smartphones are detected as some kind of network device05:29
bigdad1ethis is killing me05:29
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seishinbyouThat's kind of odd/neat.  I'll make a note to study that05:30
rbrunhubermaybe a complete dumb question: how do i grep for "---"05:31
JucatoI was able to browse my old windows smartphone using SynCE before..05:31
bigdad1ethis is a newer phone and i need to install a updated rom on it05:31
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers05:32
seishinbyoumeh, it is half past midnight.  Time for bed.  Happy (K)ubuntuing05:32
pagrbrunhuber, try grep \---  or grep "---"05:32
Jucatoseishinbyou: what country?05:32
Jucatolol should have guessed :)05:32
Jucato+1 hour away05:32
Jucatooyasumi nasai!05:32
rbrunhuberpag: neither of them work05:32
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bigdad1ewell thanks im gonna go dig a hole nd put my head in it.. take care05:33
stdinrbrunhuber: grep "\---" or grep -- ---05:33
stdinor even grep \\---05:34
rbrunhuberstdin: thanks worked.05:34
rbrunhuberstdin: are you good with cron?05:34
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stdinrbrunhuber: I just use kcron05:35
amikif anyone cares, I found how to set per-document-type settings in kate - lookup "kate variables"05:35
stdinJucato: you could just /whois me05:35
Jucatostdin: yeah, but that wouldn't say that I'm subscribed to the ML, right? :D05:35
stdinheh, guess not :p05:36
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rbrunhuberif i put a script with x bit in /etc/cron.hourly should this be executed then? how can i test this? how can i write to the syslog?05:36
icecruncherhow can you find a folder or file and delete it in one command combo like locate file > rm -fr file?05:37
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stdinrbrunhuber: yeah, if it's in the directory05:38
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stdinicecruncher: maybe with xargs05:38
rbrunhuberstdin : but how can i test/proof this?05:38
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stdinrbrunhuber: like "locate file| xargs echo rm-fr"05:40
stdinthat will print the command it would do05:40
stdinremove "echo" to make it actually do it05:40
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rbrunhuberstdin: sorry, meant how can i test that my script gets executed by cron.hourly?05:41
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stdinrbrunhuber: put a script in the directorym like: 'echo "This works" > /home/me/log' then if that makes /home/me/log then it works (replacing /home/me/ with your home dir)05:43
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JuJuBeeI just re-installed ubuntu 7.04.  I want to add kde now.  What is the best/preferred way?  Installing kubuntu-desktop?05:49
Jucatoif you want to get the Kubuntu defaults. yep05:50
JucatoJuJuBee: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde05:50
stdinI'd use aptitude tho, instead of apt-get05:52
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cytAny guys tried KDE4 Alpha 1?05:54
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JuJuBeeOh yea, where is the restart & shutdown option?  When I hit the power icon there is no restart or shutdown...Nor is there the option at the login screen.05:54
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JuJuBeeWhat is the diff between using aptitude vs. synaptic?05:56
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JucatoJuJuBee: aptitude is a command-line app. synaptic is graphical05:58
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JuJuBeeSame results?05:58
NiceGuyUKdromer: you still there?05:58
JuJuBeeor is synaptic gui for apt?05:58
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stdinJuJuBee: synaptic is a gui for apt, yes05:58
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide05:58
JucatoJuJuBee: yeah. synaptic is a gui for apt. aptitude is an alternative to apt05:58
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JuJuBeeI see, I will use aptitude then.05:59
NiceGuyUKJuJuBee: and adept is an alternative to synaptic :)05:59
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JuJuBeeI never got used to adept.05:59
JuJuBeeSeemed too hard to find what I wanted...05:59
Jucatoheh it's so easy :)06:00
NiceGuyUKnot as easy for beginners as synaptic, but then its more powerful06:00
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Jucatoheh I find it easier to search in adept06:00
Jucatobut the "response time" is a bit slower06:00
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stdina bit? :p06:00
dromerNiceGuyUK: yeah but I'm running out atm06:00
NiceGuyUKdromer, can you PM me with a contact email. I've fixed the deb for you06:01
JuJuBeeSo I guess I should install the kubuntu-desktop then ?  Some students  use kde some use gnome.  I dont want to limit either desktop env.06:01
dromerNiceGuyUK: wow, thnx !!06:01
eeoshi there. Prblem with videos from mobile phone (extension 3gp). I can play them with kaffeine, but cannot hear any sound. What is wrog with it?06:01
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dromerNiceGuyUK: pm sent :)06:01
dromerNiceGuyUK: later06:02
NiceGuyUKI don't see the PM06:02
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about growisofs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:02
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ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org06:04
JuJuBeeIs it ok to use synaptic to install simple things like a kde game or something like that or should I always use aptitude or adept?06:05
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JucatoJuJuBee: use whatever you want06:06
linenoisegrowisofs is nice06:06
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balajihi friends06:08
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balajii have a doubt to clarify06:08
balajiis it possible to upgrade from kubuntu edgy to ubuntu feisty?06:08
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)06:09
balajii have the installation live CD for fiesty06:09
JuJuBeeAny idea where my restart/shutdown options went off to?06:09
linenoisedangit.... stdin is too fast06:09
balaji<ubotu> but i have kubuntu edgy and ubuntu fiesty06:09
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balajipls help06:10
stdinbalaji: you don't need the CD06:10
balajibut my net is slow06:10
stdinbalaji: just install "ubuntu-desktop" after you upgrade to install ubuntu06:10
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stdinbalaji: just install the "ubuntu-desktop" package from Adept/Synaptic/apt-get/aptitude06:11
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chakiehas anyone noticed that a feisty on a system with an nvidia card is an order of magnitude slower graphically than edgy ever was? it's painfully slow. the nvidia-new driver is in use along with a stock kernel06:11
balajithat is after the upgrade or before?06:11
Jucatobalaji:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome06:12
stdinbalaji: either, but if you do it before the upgrade then it will have to be downloaded twice, so I'd install it after06:12
esunderis there any way to change my account settings or something so that i can stop typing sudo06:12
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esunderi realize its for my own safety, but i think i know my way around enough to not f-up my install :D06:13
stdinesunder: if you want a root shell, type: sudo -i06:13
balajibut i tried upgrading using gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"06:13
balajibut i got some protocol errors and also GTk errors06:13
esunderi dont want a root shell, i want to stop having to type sudo all the time06:13
esunderi want to be root06:14
stdinesunder: you will be root in a root shell06:14
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_4strOis there a way to recovery data deleted by a rm command ?06:14
esunderi realize that, but cant i just be root everytime i open a shell, regardless06:14
stdinnot really06:14
stdinnot on a ext2/3 fs anyway06:14
balaji<stdin> how to upgrade using a CDROm06:15
NiceGuyUKhope dromer got my message, time to go06:15
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chakiei can't be the only one with a nvidia card?06:15
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chakiewhen using 1920x1200 you have plenty of time to see the individual pixels get redrawn06:16
esunderchakie: ATI here ;)06:17
_4strOstdin: and if it's a FAT32 partition, how can I recovery the data ?06:17
chakieesunder: heh, i guess nobdy uses nvidia anymore06:18
esunderchakie: im surprised, supposedly nvidia supports beryl, etc better06:18
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chakieesunder: well, with the crawling speed i see on my desktop the last thing i want is more effects to make it even slower06:19
esunderchakie: ive got my ATI with dual monitors/ 2560x1024 resolution and beryl running though06:19
balajiis it possible to save data and upgrade frm Kubuntu edgy to ubuntu Fiesty?06:19
esundermine seemed slow too until i installed beryl actually06:19
chakieesunder: yum :)06:19
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chakieedgy was much, much more snappy, so it's something that's fubar:ed when i updated to feisty06:19
esunderi think the XGL actually helps because my vid card is doing the graphical processing now06:19
stdin_4strO: don't know, you'll have to google it06:19
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esunderchakie: if you have time you might want to try it, it did take me 2 whole days to get it working tho :(06:20
_4strOstdin: ok thx06:20
chakieesunder: i can't afford any new hw at the moment though06:21
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DJServershi all06:21
DJServersi almost lost my linux06:21
esunderchakie: im saying try beryl on your nvidia, what card do you have?06:21
chakiei'm actually contemplating moving back to edgy, this is so fscking slow it's not useful06:21
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chakieesunder: a 6600, i think. and it was fast on edgy06:22
esunderchakie: wow, that should be plenty fast, how much ram/cpu power you got?06:22
chakiemy working style depends heavily on switching virtual desktops for docs etc, and a 1s repaint each time isn't really normal06:22
eeoshi there. Problem with videos from mobile phone (extension 3gp). I can play them with kaffeine, but cannot hear any sound. What is wrong with it?06:22
chakieesunder: 1g, 2400+06:23
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chakieesunder: so it's not that the hw should really be this slow, something has broken, but i can't find anything in wikis or bug lists06:23
esunderchakie: you should be fine, i dont know how to trouble shoot your situation but i would expect your system to handle it06:23
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chakieesunder: yup, it's annoying though06:24
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about baddivice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
DJServerso lol06:25
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ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors06:26
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stdineeos: http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=15606:27
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DJServersehm... what is the command in the console to open xorg.conf?? and changing it? i forgot is06:28
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pagDJServers, sudo <editor> /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:30
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eeosstdin: thanks!!!!06:31
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DJServerspag that not the one i mean06:32
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DJServersthere is some command dont whit sudo but whit some other then you log in as root06:33
pagDJServers, hmm... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?06:33
eXistenzHello, is it recommended to upgrade to feisty?06:33
stdineXistenz: sure, it's the newest version06:34
eXistenzstdin: to upgrade or install afresh?06:34
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stdineXistenz: upgrade, unless you want a fresh install that  is06:35
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)06:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 2screens - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:35
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ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama06:36
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org06:36
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:40
DJServerssome one nows xampp here?06:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mtaserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:40
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about baddivice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:42
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Jucato!baddevice | DJServers06:44
ubotuDJServers: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors06:44
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JuJuBeeHow do I restart my compuer if there is no restart button when I click the power button on the screen?  I cannot shutdown or restart.06:45
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JucatoJuJuBee: log off first.06:45
JuJuBeeThere is no restart or shutdown option at the login screen.06:45
JuJuBeeShuld I just hit the power button on the box?06:46
JucatoJuJuBee: there should be. there's a menu in the login screen right?06:46
JucatoI'm not familiar with GDM (the login manager for GNOME)06:46
JuJuBeeYes, but no shutdown or restart... There used to be...06:47
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JuJuBeeShould I switch to kdm after installing kubuntu-desktop?06:47
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xxx_zdar nejaky cech?06:48
Jucato!cz | xxx_06:48
ubotuxxx_: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.06:48
JucatoJuJuBee: if you want to be able to shutdown/restart from KDE. but you won't be able to shutdown/restart from GNOME I think06:48
DJServers!nl | DJServers06:49
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JuJuBeeWhat is causing this?06:49
eeosstdin: well, actually it does not solve my problem. Do not want to convert only to play the videos :(06:49
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd06:49
xxx_a tam se dostanu jak?06:49
mo0osah!ftp server06:49
ubotuFTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP06:49
Jucatoxxx_: English only please06:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about webhosting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:49
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xxx_HOw i can jion czech canal????06:50
Jucato<ubotu> xxx_: ?esk u?ivatele ?dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. ?esky je mo?no se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. D?kujeme.06:50
Jucatoxxx_: just click on the channel name06:50
Cosmo__someone had suggested sphinx to me as a speech to text replacement for dragon naturally speaking for dictation, anyone know much about it?06:51
JuJuBeeJucato : is there some reason I cannot restart/shutdwon from GNOME anymore?  Is this normal?06:51
JucatoJuJuBee: not really sure. but if you use KDM to start a GNOME session, you can only logout. if you use GDM to start a KDE session, same thing. But I thought they fixed that already06:52
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eeosis there any good reason why ffmpeg is compiled without xvid support on kubuntu???? ($%$&$&$&!!!!)06:53
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JuJuBeeI haven't started a KDE session yet.  Still only have GNOME installed.  kubuntu-desktop is installing now...06:53
DJServershow to unpack a .tar.gz whit console?06:54
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ta.gz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:55
JuJuBeeDJServers : tar -xzf {filename}06:55
DJServerso ok06:55
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JuJuBeewithout brackets...06:55
DJServersi now06:55
JucatoDJServers: use Ark?06:56
DJServersdo i have to typ it like this? /home/frank/filename ??06:56
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ober0nehey, anyone have problems with USB mice in feisty?06:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:57
mo0osahanywhere I can get information on the ftp servers?06:57
mo0osahin terms of freedom, ease of use, security...06:57
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ober0nemy mouse stops responding at random, and I have to restart my compy to get it working again06:58
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DJServersmy sound is so butiful whit linux its very difrend then windows07:00
ober0neany ideas?07:00
DJServersdont now07:00
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ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto07:03
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DJServerseach  file i try to start whit console it says: cant find the file07:07
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DJServersam i doning something wrong or?07:08
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:10
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ubuntuhi, how can i install firefox in kubuntu 7.04?07:10
ubuntueeos: what is your problem with eclipse?07:11
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anno_with  adapt remuve07:12
stdinubuntu: either with Add/Remove Programs, Adept, or by doing "sudo apt-get install firefox" in konsole07:12
vmuserhi...i just installed kubuntu for the first time ever....i remember that i had to create a user account and its password...but what about the root account? what about that password?07:12
stdin!sudo | vmuser07:12
ubotuvmuser: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:12
stdinvmuser: you use _your_ password07:12
vmuserright....but what about when i  have to install something.... su07:13
vmuserwhats that pass?07:13
stdinvmuser: you don't use su, use sudo07:13
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vmuserit should not be the same as my user's07:13
stdinvmuser: sudo command07:13
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vmuserbut cant u get root running su ? thats the problem..i want to be root ... but i have never given a password for that account when i installed kubuntu07:15
stdinvmuser: if you want a root shell, then do "sudo -i"07:15
stdinvmuser: you don't need a root password, it's more secure _not_ having one07:15
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jugheadHow do you change the default application for items that are not listed under system settings?  System settings lists things like e-mail client and web browser, but not things like .mp3s or .wmv's.  I'd like VLC to open pretty much all of my media files.07:16
stdinjughead: in konqueror settings07:16
jugheadahh thanks stdin that makes sense07:17
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Sannejughead: you can also try to find things in kcontrol, the default kde control center, if you don't mind wading through multitude of config options ;)07:20
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defconhow do I make a menu item in kde menu editor for a terminal app to stay open07:23
ubuntu_defcon: don't end the program from what I know07:23
defconit is ending it07:23
defconit opens it and closes it07:24
ubuntu_Yeah I know :)07:24
defconall cmd line apps, is there a argument to add07:24
defconhow do I keep it from closing07:24
defconso I can input cmds07:24
ubuntu_What command is it?07:24
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defconany command07:27
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defconive tried --noclose07:28
defcondoesnt workl07:28
balajihi friends i have a fiesty fawn CD with me but i want to install this on a USB harddrive07:29
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balajihow to do this can somebody give me all the steps07:29
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balajiby the way USB harddrive has a space of 80 gb07:29
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bchtry google07:31
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balajican anybody provide a opinion on my qn?07:32
eeosthanks everybody, have a nice evening!07:33
geniibalaji I arrived afterwards. What was your question?07:33
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balajii have a fiesty fawn CD07:33
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balajihow to install this on a USB harddrive with 80GB space how to do this?07:34
arkanabarI installed KDE and made it my default desktop.  Now I don't have the "Options" menu on my login screen that used to let me choose what kind of session I want ... how do I get it back?07:34
mo0osahis it easy to install vnc? is it graphical?07:34
geniibalaji The installer should see the drive as a SCSI device eg: /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or so on. You should be able to install to that without an issue.07:35
balaji<moosah> yes u can install VNC from www.realvnc.com07:35
balajimy harddrive (USb) is not formatted as NTFS or FAt?07:36
geniibalaji The installer will put the ext3 filesystem usually.07:36
balajiand how to boot from this drive?07:36
guillermoi've got a quiestion07:37
guillermohow does kubuntu, or linux in general trate virus?07:37
geniibalaji You may want to make sure you have a recent bios which allows to look to usb devices for booting. If it does not you will need to put the boot manager (grub) onto floppy or the first regular hard drive07:37
guillermois tehre any presintalled antivirus? or how does it work?07:37
defconHow do I keep my apps open and switch from kde to gnome07:37
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about foo2zjs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:37
balajiis this possible with a live cd install?07:38
zzsputniki cannot install foo2zjs to my kubuntu 6.0.607:38
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geniibalaji Yes, the livecd is also the installer cd. There is a shortcut on the desktop which does an install07:39
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balaji<genii> can u provide me with a documentation?07:39
geniibalaji For installation to usb drive?07:40
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ubuntu_balaji: You can install it to your USB drive :)07:40
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ubuntu_balaji: never used lInux before I'll guess?07:40
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balajii use linux only but started very recently07:41
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2107:41
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geniibalaji There is no special method. You just do a normal install but put the files to the device it sees which is the usb drive. Normally this will be /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or so on07:41
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ubuntu_defcon: You can have gnome on a different terminal07:41
balajiok thank you07:41
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geniibalaji You are welcome07:42
ubuntu_!antivirus | guillermo07:42
ubotuguillermo: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus07:42
balajioh yes i want toa ask u one more thing07:42
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balajiis it possible to upgrade from Kubuntu 6.10 to ubuntu 7.0407:43
geniiclamav/klamav frontend works fine but you need to make sure the freshclam part gets in first or it spits out errors07:43
balajii have the CD for ubuntu thts why07:43
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geniibalaji Yes, there is a page for upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04 Would you like me to give you the link?07:44
balajii have tried out various links but my problem is peculiar u see07:44
balajikubuntu-ubuntu using CD?07:44
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balajiand that too upgrade07:44
geniibalaji Here is the standard ubuntu information page for upgrading: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading07:45
JuJuBeeI got kubuntu-desktop finally installed.  When I log into my account (gnome for the moment) and try to run users and groups, I cannot. GDM not running.  I switched to KDE and in kcontrol opend user management and when I hit administrator mode, I get an error. tells me that the module failed to load.  problem due to an error during the last upgrade.07:45
JuJuBeeor old 3rd party drivers lying around.07:45
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geniibalaji It does not matter if you have the ubuntu (gnome version) or the kubuntu (KDE version) of ubuntu. You can install either from either cd install. For kubuntu from a gnome install you put:   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop    and the reverse method for gnome install from a kubuntu cd07:47
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ubuntu_JuJuBee: can You do users on the command line?07:47
JuJuBeenever tried.07:48
ubuntu_genii: I think he was asking about upgrading07:48
ubuntu_I don't think that you can upgrade from either CD07:48
anno_hi guys i have a qwastion whou can i install wine on kubuntu?07:48
ubuntu_Well yeah technically you can but you have to download a slew of things after07:48
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:48
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geniibalaji Ah, OK. No, you cannot upgrade from the cdrom07:48
ubuntugenii: yes you can07:49
ubuntujust no the Live Cd07:49
JuJuBeeubuntu_ : how do I manage users from command line?07:49
geniiSo Alternate then?07:49
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ubuntuJuJuBee: how do you mean manage07:49
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balajiwht is the alternate CD? its specified in the site07:49
xxx_Hi everbody07:50
cox377_does anyone know whree the php binary is kept07:50
JuJuBeeIf I want to add/remove/modify/change group memebership etc...07:50
ubuntugroupmod will modify/change07:50
cox377_i've checked / /usr/bin/php07:50
geniibalaji The alternate cd is for putting the server version for instance, or a command-line only version, or for problemmatic machines which do not like the regular cd07:50
ubuntugroupdel will remove07:50
ubuntugroupadd does something but I forget what07:50
geniiserver version default install is command-line only by the way07:50
ubuntucox377_: the php binary?07:51
Sannecox377: default php install is as an apache module, so no binary, as far as I remember07:51
balajiok thanks a lot for the info07:51
cox377_ubuntu: yeh i'm trying to set uo torrentflux and it states i must specify the path07:51
balajido u have a registration with the ubuntu site?07:51
cox377_Path : php07:51
cox377_Specify the path to the php binary (/usr/bin/php):07:51
JuJuBeeubuntu_ : still, something is wrong if i cannot run the gui version, isn't it?07:51
balajiso that i can add u as a friend there?07:51
geniibalaji: Yes, I am there with the same name as here07:52
balajiok thnx07:52
JuJuBeeThis was a brand new install this morning.  How can it be broken already?07:53
ubuntuJuJuBee: Yep07:54
ubuntuJuJuBee: I'm going to look at that in a second07:54
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ubuntuJust thought you needed to do something in a hurry07:54
JuJuBeeubuntu : thanks.  I got time...07:55
ubuntuJuJuBee: you should probably try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:55
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ubuntuShould grab all missing libs etc07:55
JuJuBeeI did aptitude install kubuntu-desktop07:55
JuJuBeeto get it originally07:55
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JuJuBeeShould I still do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?07:56
azzcoWhere should I go if I need help with tv-out/xorg config?07:57
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guillermoanyone knows how to make amarok play stramingfiles08:02
guillermolike radio08:02
anno_hi i need help whyle instaling wine i gat the maseg (destroy/instal than some problems whyle downloading)08:02
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ubuntuJuJuBee: can't hurt08:03
ubuntuazzco: Here I guess08:03
boss     .?08:03
ubuntuguillermo: click on the file08:03
ubuntu !ru08:03
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke08:03
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JuJuBeeubuntu : did already, nothing to update.  Still problem with user management module...08:04
tomghi all! anyone know of a sims 2 like game for linux?08:04
anno_hi i need help whyle instaling wine i gat the maseg (destroy/instal than some problems whyle downloading)08:04
ubuntutomg: Sims2 :)08:04
ubuntuanno_: pastebin the error message08:04
tomgubuntu: no go under wine08:04
ubuntu!paste | anno_08:04
ubotuanno_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:04
ubuntutomg: Hmm. can't think of any off the top of my head08:05
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tomgubuntu: you could rack some votes up for it in the appdb if you wouldnt mind ;)08:05
ubuntuJuJuBee: What08:05
ubuntu's the error the module gives you?08:05
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ubuntutomg: Don't lookit me :) join #winehq or #cedega :)08:05
ubuntu#cedega will be more sympathetic :)08:06
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tomgyea but they want money lol08:06
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JuJuBeeModule could not load "error during last kde upgrade leaving orphaned control module" or "you have an old 3rd party module lying around"08:06
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tomgso if anyone wants to vote sims2 at appdb.winehq.org..... it would be appreciated ;)08:07
gnomefreaktomg: please leave offtopic topics in #kubuntu-offtopic08:07
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routhI need a hand from someone - I installed feisty, upgraded pmount, and installed ntfs-3g - but I can't access a USB hard drive I have - I get this error: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100008:07
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azzcoI'd like to clone my CRT to my TV, I only get Twinview ATM, Could someone lend a hand?08:09
geniirouth Put in the /etc/fstab the option   user08:10
routhgenii: the drive isn't in fstab as it's a removable USB drive08:11
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geniirouth Most likely it IS there, with a UUID number to ensure the proper device gets mounted08:12
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mc3salve  a tutti08:13
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routhgenii: nope - not there - I would see /dev/sda1 somewhere - there are no sda drives?08:13
JuJuBeeubuntu : any ideas?08:13
logixoulHi. How do I get the desktop-switching menu in the center of the screen?08:14
NickyThere should be two hardrives in my machine but I can only see one, how can I check if there are two?08:14
geniirouth 1 moment I'll try to find where the hald stuff is08:14
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routhgenii: k08:14
logixoulNicky: where did you see just one hdd?08:15
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Nickywhen I clicked on the home folder08:15
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NickyI have been told that I need to move my pictures from one disk to the other one, I just don't know how08:16
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ubuntuJuJuBee: try apt-get purge kcontrol and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:17
logixoulNicky: you can't see hard disks in your home folder. Try opening media:/08:17
Nickylogixol, there I can see cdrom0, cdrom1, floppy0 and hdb108:17
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JuJuBeeInvalig Operation purge08:18
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defconanyone try to run konversation in gnome08:19
NickyThe guy I bought the computer from said that there was two disks and that they were partioned or something like that08:19
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defconim having a problem where the server list wont close08:19
defconin gnome08:19
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geniirouth Please tell what directories/files are in /etc/hal/  (use pastebin if large)08:20
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NickyI really would need to get my pictures ready so that I can print them, I have a shoot tomorrow morning and need to bring them with me..08:21
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Nicky[505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems08:22
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phoenixbyrdHave you tried looking in hdb1?08:24
Nickyyes, the pictures I need is not there, they are on the other drive, my old one08:24
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logixoulNicky: what in your /dev/ dir begins with hd or sd?08:25
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phoenixbyrddid you open the case and actually check if there are two?08:25
NickyThe guy I bought the machine from said that he put in my old disk in the machine but I cannot find any of the photos or documents now08:25
Nickyhaha..I dont know how to open the machine08:25
phoenixbyrdthat should be common sense and a screwdriver08:25
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Nickythere is nothing in the /dev that has hd or sd08:26
r3helo ... i have aborted one download by apt-get .. . since then , if i want to use it, it always wants to continue the old download first08:26
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r3how do i cancel it08:26
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NickyOops, sorry, there are things there08:26
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serciksomeone know hot to change permission of proc/bus/usb at every startup??08:26
Nickyhda, hda1, hda2, hda3, hda5, hdb, hdb1, hdb2, hdb5, hdc, hdd but most of them have a hanglock on them08:27
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phoenixbyrdsudo konqueror ... idk08:28
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ubuntuJuJuBee: sorry apt-get remove kcontrol --purge08:29
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NickyNow I almost broke a nail when I tried to open the machine08:29
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NickyIs there anyway to get my pictures without removing the disk?08:29
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ubuntuNicky: Mount the drives08:30
NickyNow you are talking greek my friend08:30
ubuntuNicky: type mount on the command line and then pastebin it08:31
ubuntu!paste | Nicky08:31
ubotuNicky: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:31
ubuntur3: Hello08:31
mo0osahhow do you make konversation your default irc client08:31
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about defaults - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:32
Nickythat was easy08:32
ubotuTo change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"08:32
venikhas anyone else gotten the error message: operapluginwrapper has failed  ?08:32
ubuntuNicky: what was?08:32
Nickythis is the one I got from them http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21168/08:32
venikIt has to do with the Flsh player plugin for Opera 9.208:33
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Nickyubuntu, I can tell you that I did not understand one single word of what it did say though08:33
r3helo ... i have aborted one download by apt-get .. . since then , if i want to use it, it always wants to continue the old download first08:34
azzcoI really need some help with cloned output..08:34
r3howto cancel pls ?08:34
Nickyr3, you can turn off the machine, that is what I would do08:34
r3???????? how would this solve my problem ?08:34
azzcohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21165/ How do I give the two monitors the same image?08:34
mo0osahubuntu: there aren't any protocols08:34
mo0osahubuntu: i want to make konversation default app for irc protocol08:35
ubuntuNicky: What's in /media/hdb1 ?08:35
ubuntuNot your files ?08:35
NickyDo I have to pay for this support or how does it work?08:35
ubuntumo0osah: Umm not sure08:35
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ubuntuNicky: Nope it's free08:36
Nickyubuntu, that is nice08:36
NickyThere are files in that folder but not the ones I would need08:36
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NickyThere is Launch Google Earth.lnk, ntldr, ntdetect, QuickTime Player.exe and a lot of other files08:37
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aleksanterihow can i remove a package installed with # make install?08:38
ubuntuNicky: type sudo umount /mnt/hdb108:38
ubuntuNicky: there should be nothing in that folder after you type that08:38
ubuntualeksanteri: make uninstall08:38
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NickyThe pictures I have got from the agency is taken with some digital camera and there are videos of me as well08:38
aleksanteriwhere i do this?08:38
ubuntualeksanteri: In the same folder you did make install08:39
ubuntuNicky: The files are gone ?08:39
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azzcoSeriusly how do I get dual monitors with the same image?08:39
aleksanterigeez... already removed that folder :|08:39
geniialeksanteri: Actually the best way is to:  make dist-clean   or make dist08:39
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genii(this clears any remnants of it out)08:39
ubuntuazzco: Xinerama I think08:40
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azzcoI mean cloned08:40
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aleksanterigenii: already said that i had removed the folder08:40
ubuntuNicky: after you did the sudo umount command type in the terminal08:40
azzcoI have my TV like 2 meters from the CRT, so cloning is the only thing I'd want08:40
Nickyubuntu, I gave this guy my old computer when I bought a new one, he said that he had moved the whole disk in to the new machine08:40
ubuntusudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb1 -o umask=002208:40
Nickyhe said that I have two disks but I don't know08:41
ubuntuNicky: I know I'm mounting the drives for you08:41
ubuntuNicky: You do08:41
Nickyit is asking for a password08:41
Nickydo I write the password he gave me?08:41
ubuntuthat;s your password08:41
ubuntuthat you used to login08:41
Nickyit said not found08:42
Nickyit said /hdb1 not found08:42
geniialeksanteri: You can re get the original tarball or whatever you used before, then put it like last time. Then do the make dist-clean then remove the folder again08:42
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geniialeksanteri: Otherwise it's a case of trying to track all the stuff it put in whatever dir08:42
aleksanterigeez feared that08:43
NickyA stupid question, but are there many girls asking stupid questions like this in here?08:43
ubuntuNicky: somedays :)08:44
SanneNicky: it's not stupid, you're just new to this, don't worry :)08:44
aleksanterihmm... i can't find a trace of it :/08:44
ubuntuNicky: can you press up on the terminal and paste back what you typed here08:44
ubuntuI want to see why it08:44
ubuntu's asking for /hdb108:44
geniialeksanteri: Is the thing it made still running/causing grief?08:44
Nickyumount: /mnt/hdb1: not found08:45
aleksanterihmm kbfx is still running08:45
aleksanterithat did it :P08:45
ubuntuNicky: hmm ok08:45
ubuntu Nicky do a ls /dev/hdb108:45
Nickyhaha, I found a picture but it is not my pictures, someone elses08:45
Sanneubuntu, Nicky: wan't it /media/hdb1?08:45
ubuntu /media/hdb108:46
geniialeksanteri: :) Remember to do the dist-clean before removing source code dir if you want all traces gone next time08:46
NickySorry, what do I write? :)08:46
aleksanteriok :)08:46
NickyAtleast you can't blame me for being a stupid blone, I'm a brunette :)08:47
ubuntusudo umount /media/hdb108:47
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Nickyubuntu, it didn't say anything this time08:47
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Nickyand that folder is empty now08:47
ubuntuNicky: good08:48
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ubuntuNicky: sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb1 -o umask=002208:48
ubuntuNicky: sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /media/hdb1 -o umask=002208:48
ubuntumedia not Mnt :)08:48
Nickyso is that hdb1 his drive and mine is called something else?08:48
aleksanterihmm.. brb08:48
ubuntutell me what's in the folder now?08:48
ubuntuNicky: I think that the hdb1 is your drive but maybe your C:08:49
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NickyIt say that I have to describe the file when I typed that text08:49
Nickylike this: sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /media/hdb1 -o umask=002208:49
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NickyHe said something about my disk being a secondary disk or something like that08:50
ubuntuNicky: change /dev/hdb2 to /dev/hb508:50
Nickysecond drive?08:50
NickyNow I got some really weird text08:51
ubuntupastebin it :)08:51
Nickyhaha, I don't even understand the language08:52
ubuntupaste the output on the website I gave you earlier08:52
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Nickythe whole system is in finnish and I don't understand finnish, how can I get it to english? :)08:53
geniinicky hda = primary hdb = secondary   numbers after eg: hdb5 is the partition on the drive08:53
NickyMy old computer was in english08:53
Nickythat website doesn't work now08:54
Nickysorry, now it started and this is the page, but I don't know if makes any sense to you http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21170/08:54
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ubuntuANyone speak finnish? :)08:56
NickyI have a CD with the kubuntu text on it but I was told that if I use that one that I will loose my pictures, so I need to print them first and then I will try to run the blue CD to get this machine in english08:56
geniiubuntu Fluently but only when I'm roaring drunk unfortunately08:56
NickySomeone told me that you can have many languages at the same time and simply switch between them, but of course I don't understand how to switch :(08:57
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chakieubuntu: sure09:00
NickyLook, now I found something09:00
ubuntuNicky:  is there anything in the /media/hdb1 folder now?09:00
ubuntuchakie: You speak finnish?09:00
NickyIt says: removing finnish language support :)09:00
chakieubuntu: yeah09:01
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NickyNow, it is empty09:01
NickyIt says: Translations and language support for finnish has been removed, but it's still in finnish though :)09:01
ubuntuchakie: can you tell me what http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21170/ says ?09:01
chakie"2 /dev/hdb5 seems to be swap space, not attached"09:02
chakie"3 you must give the file system type"09:02
chakienot attached -> not mounted09:03
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NickyDo you think that the pictures that I have is gone?09:05
ubuntuNo :)09:05
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ubuntuthe mount command that you ran before change /dev/hdb5 to /dev/hda109:06
NickyThank you, I really hope that I can find them09:06
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NickyI don't understand what that means but I am happy that you do :)09:07
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mo0osahhow do you get bookmarks toolbar in konquer09:09
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ubuntuNicky: are those your files in /media/hdb1 now?09:10
NickyNo, it is still empty09:10
Sannemo0osah: under settings/toolbars09:10
mo0osahI added some bookmarks09:12
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mo0osahbut the toolbar doesnt show up09:12
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SanneNicky, ubuntu: sometimes you have to press F5 in konqueror to renew directory information.09:12
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NickyIt is still empty, should I restart the computer?09:13
ubuntuNicky: type mount | grep hda109:13
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Nickynothing happened09:14
NickyIt is quite funny, I know nothing about computers but still I can type quite fast09:15
ubuntuok then it didn't mount09:15
NickyIf you say so :)09:15
ubuntuNicky: what did you type?09:15
Nickymount | grep hda109:16
ubuntuNicky: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022 ?09:16
markkuwhat were kubuntus hardware reqs?09:16
Nickyin the black window09:16
Nickyshould I type that text again? What you just wrote?09:16
mrdlouisdi lost the hdd in my laptop, so i use a live cd to rdp to my windows server until i can raise the funds to buy a new hdd, i rdped to my windows server regularly when i had a working hdd and the audio worked, it does not work since using the livecd is there an audio driver i have to install to get the sound to work?09:16
routhgenii: I had to run out - did you ever find the hald stuff?09:16
NickyI am sorry if I am bothering you, just let me know when you've had enough of me09:17
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geniirouth I found some stuff that may get you in the right direction09:17
markkustart Kconsole. you can find it from system menu09:17
NickyNow I got a text like this: /dev/hda1 on /media/hdb1 type ntfs (rw,umask=0022)09:17
ubuntuNicky: naw I'm good09:17
geniirouth Looks like where you put stuff like mount options for hal is in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi      or that dir anyhow09:18
ubuntuNicky: whats in /media/hdb1 ?09:18
NickyNow there are files there again, the same ones as before09:18
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mo0osahhow do you make bookmark toolbar show up09:19
Sannemo0osah: under settings/toolbars09:19
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ubuntuthe same?09:20
ubuntuWhat the same?09:20
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markkuhas anyone used xubuntu?09:21
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routhgenii: thanks09:21
NickyIt is still the same files as I saw before, the Google Earth launch, the ntldr file and lots of other things09:22
ubuntureally? :)09:22
ubuntusudo umount /media/hdb109:22
ubuntuand then09:22
geniirouth np. Here is a link in that area, tho not exactly what you are looking for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9366909:22
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ubuntuNicky: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022 ?09:22
Nickywith the question mark on the end?09:22
markkui installed xubuntu on really old computer and somekind reason desktops taskbars and toolbars wont show up at all09:22
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Nickymount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,09:24
Nicky       missing codepage or other error09:24
Nicky       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try09:24
Nicky       dmesg | tail  or so09:24
geniimarkku You will need at least about 128Mb of ram for it to run right09:24
markkui have09:24
NickyNow it is in english again :)09:25
genii(or physical ram + swap space => 128)09:25
markkui think swap is atleast 390Mb09:25
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markkui have 20Gb harddisk but somekind reason i failed to set up partions manually09:25
markkuso i had to use guided09:25
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lucahi everyone09:26
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NickyOne of me girlfriends said that I should try to get my pictures from the old disk, move them to the new and then empty the old one, will that work?09:26
lucaI have problem compiling kbfx 0.49.309:26
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markkunicky that is possible09:26
lucasays it cannot find kde3 headers and core library - even if I have installed the kde metapackage? O_o09:27
mrdlouisdi lost the hdd in my laptop, so i use a live cd to rdp to my windows server until i can raise the funds to buy a new hdd, i rdped to my windows server regularly when i had a working hdd and the audio worked, it does not work since using the livecd is there an audio driver i have to install to get the sound to work?09:27
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markkuyou just have to connect old hard disk to same computer with new hard disk or upload them on internet packed as rar and load them from there09:27
ubuntuNicky: hmm ok09:27
Sanneluca: are you compiling from source because of newer version?09:27
ubuntuNicky: sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/hdb1 -o umask=002209:27
NickyI would really need to get the pictures tonight since I need to print them and give them to the agency tomorrow morning, otherwise I might loose this shoot09:27
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Nicky/dev/hda5 looks like swapspace - not mounted09:28
Nickymount: you must specify the filesystem type09:28
lucaSanne: yep wanted to give it a try - although I also posted in the forums kindly asking someone better than me to create the package ;)09:28
Sanneluca: heh :). You most likely need some *-dev package of the one it's complaining about. Let me find you the package name.09:29
ubuntuNicky: sudo mount /dev/hda3 /media/hdb1 -o umask=002209:29
ubuntuYou have a lot pf swapspace09:29
lucaSanne: ok thanks a lot! :)09:30
Nickymount: you must specify the filesystem type09:30
markkuit says it is swap type?09:30
Sanneluca: try installing kdelibs4-dev. The description of the package looks like it's the one you need.09:31
markkuwell im not sure about mounting lol09:31
ubuntuNicky: what did you have before windows or linux ?09:31
markkui even failed partioning09:31
Nickymarkku, I just typed the line that ubuntu gave me and it replied: mount: you must specify a filesystem type, I don't know either :)09:31
lucaSanne: ok thx09:31
Sanneluca: you're welcome :)09:31
lucaoh it also misses the dcoplib and dcoplib2cpp :$09:32
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Sanneluca: try to find the name of the corresponding *-dev package for anything it complains about, either in adept/synaptic/apt-cache search, or at packages.ubuntu.com. If you don't succeed, shout :)09:34
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NickyIs this something that I can try and follow? http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html09:34
Sanneluca: usually those are libraries that start with "lib"09:34
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markkuguess my 350Mhz, 128Mb ram computer is bit too old for linux too lol09:35
NickyI think I had windows on the other machine I had09:35
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NickyBut this Linux is much more difficult to use09:36
Sanneluca: oh, another tip! You can search for the build dependencies of the version in ubuntu, you most likely would need those packages to build your version. Let me get you the file. Yre you on feisty?09:36
jhutchinsNicky:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html09:36
lucathe cmake however functioned :)09:36
lucatrying to see about the make09:37
Sanneluca: ah, cool. I still get you the page, for educational purposes ;)09:37
lucaok thanks ;)09:37
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Nickyhaha, that really was like greek to me :)09:38
luca*sigh* watching the Punisher on tv...absolute ****, I mean, the comic was manichean, but the movie is even worse... :-/09:38
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