[12:20] <sercik> i can't use sudo command anymore.. please help me!!!
[12:20] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Well, the basic info is here:
[12:20] <sercik> i thibk that tje problrm is i have done following command usermod -G vbixusere sercik
[12:20] <jhutchins_lt> !sudo | sercik
[12:20] <ubotu> sercik: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:20] <routh> I need a hand from someone - I used automatix and downloaded the latest updates kubuntu dapper - and now I can't access /media/usbdisk no matter what I do with /etc/fstab
[12:20] <sercik> i think that the problem is i have done following command usermod -G vboxusers sercik
[12:22] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Yup.  Should have used -a
[12:23] <sercik> now when i do sudo don't work and if i launch adept dor example i insert my user password but it don't gice me access
[12:23] <sercik> please what can i do??
[12:23] <lascar> /disconnect
[12:23] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Probably need to do usermod -a adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[12:24] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Followed by your username, of course.
[12:24] <sercik> ah ok
[12:25] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Actually, your username twice, you want to be a member of serick too.
[12:25] <routh> Anyone have any idea what happened to my system? I used to have access to any new usb drives, but now it tells me I don't have access permissions
[12:25] <sercik> switch -a is incorrect
[12:25] <jhutchins_lt> you may also need to usermod -g sercik sercik
[12:25] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Hm.
[12:26] <sercik> i have tried it and usermod don't recognize -a
[12:26] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Sorry, -Ga
[12:27] <jhutchins_lt> Whoops, sorry, I'm rusty on this.
[12:27] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: seperate the groupnames with commas.
[12:27] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: no spaces, just commas.
[12:28] <sercik> like this usermod -Ga adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip......
[12:28] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Yes.
[12:28] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Some commands require that you use the form usermod -G -a, but they usually allow you to combine the options.
[12:28] <sercik> it says "a group unknown"
[12:29] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Sigh.  Try -G -a then.
[12:30] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: "This behaviour can be changed via -a option..." - from man usermod
[12:30] <sercik> sercik is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[12:31] <jhutchins_lt> Heh.
[12:31] <sercik> and also another strange thing i have no mixer
[12:31] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Probably because you're not in group audio.
[12:32] <JP_P_home> hello raki crashes when i try to sync the calendar, but it is ok for contacts
[12:32] <sercik> i'm not is sudoers so i can't use sudo so i can't add myself to groups i think...
[12:32] <jhutchins_lt> sercik: Sorry, man, I gotta go feed the horses.  I'm sure there's a page on this on the wiki or something.
[12:32] <sercik> thank you jhutchins
[12:32] <sercik> :(
[12:34] <dextrone> hello, can anyone tell me if I can install kubuntu from the {regular} cd wo/ loading the desktop
[12:34] <guillermo> yes you can
[12:34] <guillermo> i did it today
[12:35] <dextrone> my install often freezes at the main install part where it says Detecting Filesystems
[12:35] <dextrone> can u tell me how
[12:35] <guillermo> well mine diod not freezze
[12:35] <guillermo> i had a little problem but that was beaacause the cd was damaged
[12:35] <guillermo> i isntalled kubuntu 7.04
[12:35] <guillermo> i restarted the pc with the cd insidde
[12:35] <JP_P_home> nobody uses raki ?
[12:35] <dextrone> same, but when i load the desktop, it freezes
[12:36] <dextrone> ,and how do I install wo/ loading the desktop
[12:36] <guillermo> then it gets to a screen when it asks you what you want to do, i picked start kubuntu in safe mode graphics
[12:37] <dextrone> and does that allow you to install wo/ the desktop
[12:37] <dextrone> or is there something I need to do along with that
[12:38] <guillermo> after you get to the desktop
[12:38] <dextrone> yes
[12:38] <guillermo> there is a little icon on the desktop that says install
[12:38] <guillermo> then it just to follow orders
[12:38] <dextrone> wait
[12:38] <dextrone> it freezes when I do that at the last step when I press install,
[12:39] <dextrone> it says detecting filesystems
[12:39] <guillermo> what do you have for hardrives?
[12:39] <dextrone> I tried leaving it on for ~3 hrs but no dice
[12:39] <dextrone> 40GB maxtator
[12:39] <Sanne> dextrone: your best bet would be the alternate cd (but I guess you already know about that?)
[12:39] <dextrone> well
[12:40] <dextrone> the thing is the live cd is my only wait to get anywhere beyond "Press any key to restart" OR "Hal.dll is corrupt" {2xp installs}
[12:40] <dextrone> and that's why I can't get the alt. cd
[12:41] <oem> hello.. :)
[12:42] <dextrone> oem:hello, is there anyway to install kubuntu {7} wo/ loading the live desktop
[12:42] <guillermo> chek if someone lives near you with a disc?
[12:43] <morfejas> yra lietuviu ?:)
[12:43] <guillermo> i would try to format the disc and try again to isntall
[12:43] <dextrone> well, I know a few people here and there but I need it fixed now, so if there's any other solution I'd like it
[12:43] <dextrone> the hdd
[12:43] <dextrone> ?
[12:43] <guillermo> where are you writting from now? windows?
[12:43] <dextrone> no
[12:43] <morfejas> how instal skype? :\
[12:44] <dextrone> the live cd
[12:44] <guillermo> and it frezzes just at the end anfter pressing install
[12:44] <gnom> HI !!  DOES ANYONE HAVE PROBLEM POWERING OFF KUBUNTU MACHIME ??
[12:44] <dextrone> morfejas:http://tntmax.com/content/view/176/60/
[12:44] <morfejas> fnx
[12:44] <skane> how can i change screen size in linux? please
[12:44] <guillermo> it happened to me that a warning message came up but it was hided behind the originla window so i could not see it
[12:45] <guillermo> maybe that is it, try moving the main window
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> skane: change screen size?do you have a widescreen monitor?
[12:45] <dextrone> no my mouse froze
[12:45] <guillermo> Waht is the kubuntu for ubuntus System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver
[12:46] <guillermo> oh that wa s even wrose
[12:46] <dextrone> ......pesky windows, if it worked for ONE more time I could install debian/ubuntu from those auto install programs
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: as far as I can tell there is none... sadly enough
[12:46] <skane> nosrednaekim: i think resolution
[12:46] <gnom> hI Guillermo, do you have problems with ATI?
[12:47] <gnom> I run on ATI too and can't run 3D Cube
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> skane: do you have a widescreen monitor?
[12:47] <skane> nosrednaekim: no i have 19'
[12:47] <guillermo> gnome yeah
[12:48] <guillermo> i am trying ti install the drivers
[12:48] <gnom> can you?
[12:48] <guillermo> i got a link but it is for ubuntu
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> skane: what type of graphics card do you have?
[12:48] <guillermo> it says smething about "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver
[12:48] <skane> nosrednaekim: geforce 5600 FX
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: go into adept, and install the "fglrx" package
[12:49] <guillermo> that, after using tje command line to install some thing
[12:49] <gnom> try original ubuntu drivers, ATI's dont work
[12:49] <nosrednaekim> skane: install "nvidia-glx"
[12:49] <nosrednaekim> its the proprietary Nvidia drivers
[12:49] <guillermo> do i nedd the control panel?
[12:50] <gnom> found tutorial, no control panel
[12:51] <guillermo> it's done
[12:51] <guillermo> i am gona try to watch a film
[12:51] <gnom> player?
[12:51] <guillermo> i got vlc, amarok, kaffeine,mplayer
[12:51] <gnom> Prefered?
[12:52] <gnom> my kubuntu is too slow running amarok
[12:52] <guillermo> i installed kubuntu today i dont know
[12:52] <guillermo> i had windows untill this morning
[12:52] <nosrednaekim> gnom: install exaile!
[12:53] <guillermo> i dont see anything on amarok burt i hear
[12:53] <gnom> nice distro, but requires work
[12:53] <gnom> did you compile dirvers (xine)?
[12:53] <guillermo> are you talking to me?
[12:54] <guillermo> xine? i guess i didi
[12:54] <luke_> windows req work
[12:54] <gnom> Anybody have experience witc Scientific linux?
[12:54] <morfejas> cp skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb.orig
[12:54] <morfejas> cp: cannot stat `skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb': No such file or directory
[12:54] <morfejas> help.. :)
[12:55] <gnom> change repositories
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> morfejas: what are you trying to do?
[12:55] <morfejas> instal skype
[12:55] <dextrone> is there any boot option with the cd that I can try so it boots directly into the isbtaller
[12:55] <dextrone> *live cd
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> dextrone: no... you need the alternate installer for that
[12:55] <luke_> kxmame on kubumtu is top notch
[12:56] <luke_> played frogger today
[12:56] <gnom> ARE YOU AMERICANS?
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> what is kxmane
[12:56] <morfejas> I don`t speek EN help my how work next ... plz... :)
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> yeah...
[12:56] <luke_> emulatoe
[12:56] <gnom> what is the problem?
[12:57] <morfejas> cp skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb.orig
[12:57] <morfejas> cp: cannot stat `skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb': No such file or directory
[12:57] <morfejas> what :)
[12:57] <guillermo> it does not work
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> morfejas: if you don't speak  english, go to a channel for your language
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: what doesn't?
[12:57] <guillermo> koffeine does not show anything neither does amarok
[12:57] <guillermo> i mean the drivers
[12:57] <guillermo> vlc shows sound and picture but it is slow
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: drivers for what?
[12:58] <luke_> kxmame is in synaptic
[12:58] <guillermo> and pretty bad with fullscreen
[12:58] <guillermo> i am trying to install drivers for an ati graphic card
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: go into adept
[12:58] <jaevel> can someone tell me where to find hardware list that is compatible with the new nvidia-glx-new driver?
[12:58] <sercik> i don't know why but i have deassociated my user from groups i think so now i need to know to which group should add my user to work correctly in kubuntu
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> and search for adept
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> search for "fglrx" sorry
[12:58] <guillermo> i already installed it
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> jaevel: pretty much anything after the Geforce4
[12:59] <morfejas> fnx
[12:59] <morfejas> bye
[12:59] <morfejas> >:)
[12:59] <pierre_> how to make knetworkmanager remember for my wifi network wpa key, when i enter it the kde wallet ask me for a password but next time i start i have to enter it again, is it because knetworkmanager is maybe starting before the kdewallet ?
[01:00] <luke_> automatics will help
[01:00] <jaevel> nosrednaekim, are you sure? i have a GeForce 440 something or another and i cant get it to work?
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: ok, now, run this command "sudo aticonfig --initial --overlay-type=Xv"
[01:00] <sercik> jhutchins: i ave solved a little i have started kubuntu with kernel parameter sinlge and i have added sercik to group admin
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> jaevel: ok...not sure... just run nvidia-glx there is really very little difference in functionality right now
[01:01] <sercik> could you repeat me that groups to which i need to add sercik?
[01:02] <jaevel> nosrednaekim, well.. i've been trying to run wine->wow and everyone keeps telling me to upgrade my drivers to get it to work....
[01:02] <guillermo> i did taht nosrednaekm
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: ok, now you need to edit your Xorg.
[01:02] <guillermo> should it be working bwtter now?
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> no.. not yet.
[01:02] <skane> nosrednaekim:  i know it now thx
[01:02] <guillermo> if you guide me ill be thankfull
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> skane: NP
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: will do
[01:03] <sercik> i'm not able to access sound as user
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: log out, and select in the KDM sessions menu or whatever to restart the X sever
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> then log back in.
[01:04] <guillermo> i'll be right back
[01:04] <skane> GN
[01:04] <gnom> poor guy
[01:06] <guillermo> i am back
[01:06] <guillermo> when i loged out i did restart the x-server
[01:06] <guillermo> there was an option when i was about to write my password
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[01:06] <oem> hi
[01:07] <oem> i have a problem with beryl
[01:07] <gnom> hi
[01:07] <gnom> me too
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> run the command " glxinfo | grep direct"
[01:07] <guillermo> well i tryied kaffeine now and it works a lot better
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: really? good.
[01:07] <guillermo> it works very good even in full size window
[01:08] <oem> its about the rendering?
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> oem: sorry, wasn't talking to you
[01:08] <oem> ok
[01:09] <gnom> oem: did it work before?
[01:09] <oem> yes
[01:09] <gnom> on wath card?
[01:11] <guillermo> man thx for the help
[01:12] <oem> intel 865g
[01:12] <Graham> guillermo: You get your ATI card sorted I see?
[01:12] <gnom> linux native drivers?
[01:12] <oem> yeh
[01:13] <gnom> work better. I crashed my systwm with ATI drivers
[01:13] <gnom> pure sabotage
[01:13] <Graham> guillermo: Yes? No? Potatoes?
[01:13] <guillermo> Graham? potatoes
[01:14] <Graham> Seemed random, you get your graphics card working?
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> Graham: I think he did.
[01:14] <Graham> Lovelly jubely :)
[01:14] <gnom> baad...
[01:14] <rich__> imnew to linux
[01:15] <Bi||aBong> i have a problem with wine and cedega when i try run GTA SA this crash
[01:15] <rich__> i have no idea what im doing
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> osrry to spoil your rhyme... its spelled "jubilee"
[01:15] <rich__> somone help.
[01:15] <oem> pleas check this is a screenshot of my desktop runing beryl http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/445/mydesktopjs6.png
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> rich__: ok... whats the problem
[01:15] <guillermo> man i love this thing
[01:16] <guillermo> i am gonna convince my friends of give it a try
[01:16] <rich__> im trying to install programs, and whever i try to do so,, it says unable to compile excutible
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: what thing?
[01:16] <gnom> instal gcc
[01:17] <rich__> gcc?
[01:17] <rich__> see this is my first time ever using linux
[01:17] <gnom> my first kubuntu didn t have it
[01:17] <Sanne> rich__: for installting software in general in *ubuntu, see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[01:17] <guillermo> i mean linux
[01:17] <guillermo> kubuntu all this world outside windows
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> rich__: what program?you ussually don't need to compile something..
[01:17] <gnom> need Knemo
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: ah yes... most don't know this world exists...
[01:18] <dextrone> can anyone help me figure out why my computer freezes when I press the "Install" button; it freezes at 15% Detecting Filesystems
[01:18] <rich__> well what im really trying to get is beryl
[01:18] <rich__> and i have no idea how to
[01:18] <agn0stic> dextrone: are you sure it's not just hanging for a bit?
[01:19] <dextrone> I've left it on for hours sometimes; nothing changes
[01:19] <gnom> rich:get to know it in general, worry about 3d later
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> rich__: ok... first, are you running Nvidia or Intel graphics?
[01:19] <rich__> ATI
[01:20] <agn0stic> dextrone: i assume ubuntu 7.10 is what you're trying to install?
[01:20] <dextrone> yes
[01:20] <gnom> rich: with ATI your scroweddd...
[01:21] <dextrone> brb
[01:21] <agn0stic> dextrone: first thing to try would be burning the iso cd at a slow speed, to make sure it's burnt correctly
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> rich__: is it a new card, or an older one?
[01:21] <rich__> a new one
[01:21] <rich__> brand new computer all together
[01:21] <Tired_> If Kubuntu decides (without me asking, after install) to load a certain kernel module, and it does, does that mean I have that particular hardware?
[01:22] <Graham> Tired_: Just means Kubuntu THINKS you have particular hardware.
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> rich__: that will be a big pain then. ATI doesn't play nice with Linux.
[01:22] <Tired_> So I might have Bluetooth, then...
[01:22] <lascar> agreed
[01:22] <ubuntu> I need help with partitioning my drive
[01:22] <Tired_> Cool
[01:22] <rich__> well what about  cgl
[01:22] <rich__> xgl*
[01:23] <rich__> iv read that it is compatible
[01:23] <Graham> Well... as far as I know, Bluetooth modules are loaded anyway.
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: nah.. you probably don't.. Ubuntu just loads those things.
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> cmopatible, yes, stable, oh most certainly not
[01:23] <Graham> I personally just got rid of mine.
[01:23] <Tired_> Oh.  I don't know how I'd test it anyways...I have no bluetooth devices
[01:23] <ubuntu> can I get help with partitioning my drive
[01:23] <rich__> well either way id like to try it atleast
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> rich__: it is.. but its both unstable and a bit heavy on resouces
[01:23] <Graham> NO YOU CAN'T!
[01:24] <gnom> dont be cruel
[01:24] <Graham> ubuntu: Get QTparted and you'll be halfway home.
[01:24] <ubuntu> please private message me if you can help
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> rich__: ok then...
[01:24] <gnom> Gparted is more sin
[01:24] <gnom> simple
[01:24] <nceterval> What is the name of the Kubuntu update manager I can use to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty?  Adept was supposed to launch it, but crashed.
[01:24] <Graham> Gparted is more gnome :)
[01:24] <gnom> yea
[01:24] <Graham> And sucks ass anyway.
[01:24] <gnom> uuu
[01:24] <oem> cya
[01:25] <rich__> so how would i go about doing so
[01:25] <agn0stic> nceterval: you can just change the names in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:25] <Graham> ubuntu: What do you want to do to your drive?
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> !XGL | rich__
[01:25] <ubotu> rich__: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:25] <agn0stic> nceterval: then apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[01:25] <ubuntu> yay
[01:25] <nceterval> agn0stic, There's no reason to use whatever fancy GUI Kubuntu have designed?
[01:26] <Graham> ubuntu: Hello?
[01:26] <rich__> thanks, and that should be step by step on how to install
[01:26] <sercik> please could someone do the following command "groups" and give me the output?? PLEASE!!!
[01:26] <agn0stic> nceterval: i find it faster to do stuff from the command line most of the time, especially installing apps. If you want to use the gui, you can, but it's mainly a wrapper to the command line tools anyhow
[01:27] <nceterval> agn0stic, What is the command to launch the GUI (for reference if nothing else)?
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> rich__: yeah... if not(or if you have problems) come back here
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin freddy
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> freddy is my user name
[01:27] <gnom> I can't turn off my computer HELP
[01:27] <agn0stic> nceterval: idk. synaptic is one front-end to apt (assuming you're talking about the gui for upgrading)
[01:27] <Graham> gnom: Unplug it.
[01:28] <gnom> Kubuntu gets stuck
[01:28] <Graham> Load it in recovery mode and do shutdown, see if any errors occour.
[01:29] <gnom> There is no error if I power it off from root konsole
[01:29] <nceterval> agn0stic, Oh, I'm not looking for a package manger, there is apparently a frontend specifically for the Feisty upgrade (http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php).
[01:29] <ubuntu> it wont let me format my disk
[01:29] <sercik> Admiral_Chicago: thank you very much
[01:29] <nceterval> agn0stic, As I said, Adept indicated that it would launch it and then crashed.
[01:29] <sercik> how can i add myself to all that groups??
[01:29] <ubuntu> any ideas on how to make it so that when i partition it it wont say that i cant change the partition size
[01:30] <gnom> unmount if first
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[01:30] <ubuntu> no
[01:30] <ubuntu> its my windows hard drive
[01:31] <ubuntu> its a 350 gig sata and has over 50 gigs free
[01:31] <gnom> you need ntfs3g
[01:31] <Graham> No he doesn't.
[01:31] <Graham> He needs the ntfsutils
[01:31] <Graham> So you can resize it.
[01:31] <gnom> isn't installed by default
[01:31] <gnom> do it from win
[01:32] <agn0stic> nceterval: the command to launch adept should be "adept" without the quotes.
[01:33] <Alonea> what is the big difference between the dvd and the live cd?
[01:33] <agn0stic> nceterval: you could launch it from a terminal and look at the output when it crashes to try to determine the cause
[01:33] <ubuntu> okay
[01:33] <ubuntu> so what should i do
[01:33] <ubuntu> just use partition magic?
[01:33] <gnom> ubuntu: use knoppix if your win partitions dont work
[01:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Alonea: the number of included packages
[01:33] <agn0stic> nceterval: or just do the upgrade yourself, probably less painful if adepts crashing on you
[01:33] <gnom> ntfs-fix --
[01:34] <ubuntu> okay
[01:34] <ubuntu> well heres a question
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> gnom: or how about just setting them up properly and not driving people away from ubuntu, mmmkay?
[01:34] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: ok. downloading disk for friend and he is on dialup.
[01:34] <ubuntu> whats the partition type for kubuntu
[01:34] <gnom> sorry
[01:34] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: I should probably get him the dvd, yes?
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: pretty much whatever you want
[01:34] <nceterval> agn0stic, Right, I understand how to launch Adept...  it is my understanding that there is a seperate GUI tool used for the Feisty upgrade.
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> Alonea: that would be my recommendation
[01:34] <ubuntu> what would be reccomended
[01:34] <nceterval> Perhaps I am mistaken
[01:34] <ubuntu> ntfs
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu
[01:34] <Alonea> ubuntu: most use ext3
[01:34] <ubuntu> okay
[01:34] <ubuntu> ill use that
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> almost anything :D
[01:35] <ubuntu> tahnks alonea
[01:35] <Dragnslcr> Does Feisty run ntpdate on a set interval  by default, or do I have to manually add the cron job?
[01:35] <Alonea> ubuntu: the live cd should make that by default
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> ext3 is the most common, then reiser or ext2 probably
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> and vfat is good for cross-platform storage
[01:35] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: I doubt he would want to drag his computer to my house for decent internet all the time.
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> although it probably "violates microsoft's patents"
[01:35] <agn0stic> nceterval: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php makes it look like its done through adept. if it's launching another program, I have no clue what it would be, sorry.
[01:36] <nceterval> agn0stic, Hmm, ok.  Thanks for your time.
[01:36] <gnom> screw theri patents
[01:36] <Admiral_Chicago> Alonea: the dvd has all of main on there
[01:36] <Alonea> Admiral_Chicago: ok. hopefully this download doesn't take too long...
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> the dvd is the best option, but it doesn't have universe...  as Admiral_Chicago just said and i should really pay more attention
[01:37] <Admiral_Chicago> :-) Alonea about as long as it takes a dvd to download
[01:37] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: well, he just wants to get his computer up at the moment with some stuff on it. He just built his own.
[01:38] <Alonea> Admiral_Chicago: hehe. Well, he is supposed to come by in a couple hours for it. Worst case I give him Edgy Eft and he can get over it.
[01:38] <gnom> bye
[01:38] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, edgy-feisty upgrade over dialup
[01:38] <Daisuke_Ido> that's torture
[01:39] <sercik> Admiral_Chicago: thank you very much i have solved my problem
[01:39] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: well, he could always wait to upgrade and actually bring over computer to my house for relief...
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> torrents work well for me. good speeds
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik: my pleasure
[01:40] <Alonea> Admiral_Chicago: oh! I dunno if you were there, but I found non network manager/knetwork manager option for WPA. It is a bit buggy, but it works
[01:40] <sercik> i can give a help to all people: if you lose root privileges and you can't use sudo command you can start kubuntu in alternate mode so you can give command as root
[01:40] <Jack3> can someone please help me with this http://pastebin.ca/490328
[01:40] <Alonea> Admiral_Chicago: I had no idea that Wireless Assistant had a later version with it.
[01:40] <Admiral_Chicago> Alonea: few people realize the power of torrents, I was getting 600 k/b down for Ubuntu Studio
[01:40] <Alonea> Admiral_Chicago: I could try real fast
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> oink!
[01:41] <Jack3> anyone know?
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: go to "ctrl+alt+f2"
[01:41] <Admiral_Chicago> Jack3: recovery mode, sudo startx telss you what
[01:42] <Admiral_Chicago> tells*
[01:42] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry i'm a bit excited :)
[01:42] <Jack3> i will have to reboot, im on the windows partition
[01:42] <Jack3> whats ctrl alt f2 do?
[01:42] <Admiral_Chicago> okay write down the last line and get back to me
[01:42] <Jack3> okay
[01:42] <Admiral_Chicago> i may be afk
[01:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Jack3: move to a tty
[01:42] <Jack3> tty?
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> moves to a command linee only console
[01:43] <Jack3> alritebrb
[01:43] <Jack3> actualy
[01:44] <Jack3> when i tried recovery mode
[01:44] <Jack3> i put in my ass in sudo -s,and it said incorrect
[01:44] <Jack3> and i am POSITIVE it is
[01:44] <dextrone> ok I just came back; when ever I try to install kubuntu 7; it locks up at "detecting filesystems 15%" any help
[01:44] <dextrone> would be nice
[01:45] <Jack3> helllllllllllllllllllo?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> sudo -s?
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[01:45] <Jack3> yeh, is that wrong?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> no need to shout BTW...
[01:45] <Jack3> sorry
[01:46] <Jack3> i think i tried sudo also
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> I've never used the recovery mode myself,so i'm not sure what it does.
[01:47] <ardchoille> I guess I've been lucky with this distro.. I've never had to use recovery mode, never had a crash or problem.
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> yeah..me too... mut then I don'tdo Bit torrents...
[01:48] <ardchoille> I take that back, the biggest problem I have had with this distro is how to change the kmenu icon, lol
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> and Jack3's problem is anoyingly common.
[01:48] <Jack3> really?
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> yeah.
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> I've seen it at lest 2 times
[01:49] <Daisuke_Ido> if so it sounds liek a wine problem
[01:49] <Daisuke_Ido> with properly detecting free space
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> really? I think its a problem with not enough diskspace
[01:50] <Daisuke_Ido> my sarcasm detector's on the fritz :\
[01:50] <dextrone> any help for me with my install freezing at detecting file systems
[01:51] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: I wonder if that's just with the wine in the ubuntu repos. I had a lot less problems when I switched to theirs.
[01:51] <Daisuke_Ido> Alonea: i'm using .9.37 from the budgetdedicated repos and haven't had a problem
[01:52] <ardchoille> What's the status of the Clicn N Run stuff that I have heard about? How do I get it on my systems?
[01:53] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: yeah, thats what I use too. fixed all of my previous problems with it. Its the one that isn't at budgetdedicated that I had a whole lotta problems with.
[01:56] <drkns> hello
[01:56] <drkns> how can i make ndiswrapper module to autoload at start up instead of writing modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:56] <drkns> everytime
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> "ndiswrapper -m"
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> or rather "sudo ndiswrapper -m"
[01:57] <TheDebugger> I think you just have to write it in : /etc/modules
[01:58] <drkns> thanks
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> thats what that command does
[01:58] <drkns> thank you
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> you're welcome
[01:59] <drkns> today i tried to install kubuntu on a raid 0 set up but i failed
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> drkns: yeah you need the alternate installer for that.
[01:59] <drkns> it seems raid 0 is not an option
[01:59] <eduardo> hello who can help me with ubuntu apache asp net?! :'(
[01:59] <drkns> i tried it with alternate install cd
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> drkm: ah... ok..
[02:00] <drkns> it is hard to decide whether i have hardware or software raid
[02:00] <drkns> my laptop manual says it has hardware raid
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> laptop? with RAID? WOAH!
[02:01] <drkns> but kubuntu detected drives as seperate drives even though my fastrack 100 lite set the array
[02:01] <drkns> yes i was using winxp pro on raid 0 120g set up
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> drkns: your laptop has two drives?
[02:02] <drkns> this is a 3 years old laptop and yes it has 2 drives 60gb 7200 rpm each
[02:02] <Arwen> whoa, a dual-hard drive laptop?
[02:02] <Arwen> I want one of t hose
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> wow... that thing must really not have good battery life.
[02:02] <drkns> yep about 30 mins
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> lol.
[02:03] <drkns> heavy as well its 17 inch
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> but it must be pretty fast with raded 7200 RPMS
[02:03] <drkns> yes it was
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> was?
[02:03] <drkns> now i am on kubuntu its kind of sluggish
[02:03] <drkns> no raid
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> just one drive?
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> I mean.. its just istalled on one drive.
[02:04] <drkns> still two drive but both are on ide now not raid 0 array
[02:04] <drkns> yes it is installed on one kubuntu installers always see the drives as two seperate drive
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> ok. well.. I've never done a RAID install so I really can't hepl
[02:04] <drkns> no problem
[02:04] <Alonea> Admiral_Chicago: *grins* friend is gonan bring compy over since he has noooo idea what he is doing. He is a linux newb and he wants windows on their too. Know anything about getting SBC dialup to work with kubuntu?
[02:05] <drkns> so far it seems impossible or there is one way but its not efficient
[02:05] <Arwen> Alonea, eh? dialup? does he have a real modem or a winmodem?>
[02:07] <Alonea> Arwen: hell if I know. He just built this comp from the ground up. All he knows is that the software they gave him is only for win/mac. Not to mention I have not had dialup in years and know nothing about it anymore
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> hopefully its an intel...
[02:08] <Arwen> Alonea, hehe, so it is a winmodem :-)
[02:08] <Arwen> too bad, poor guy won't be able to use the Internet
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> are winmodems still THAT bad in linux?
[02:09] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, winmodems are bad. Period.
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> yeppers
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> i would think by now someone would have macgyvered something
[02:09] <drkns> they are bad in windoz as well
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> but if its an intel, he might be OK.
[02:09] <Alonea> Arwen: I guess not. but this is the software they gave to him for the old computer. what is the difference between the two?
[02:09] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, Intel winmodems don't work with the latest kernels (feisty, anyone?)
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> really?
[02:09] <Alonea> Arwen: a winmodem and a modem? like, is the win the one built inside the computer and the modem the outside box thing?
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> interesting
[02:10] <Daisuke_Ido> Alonea: winmodems have most functions controlled via software rather than hardware is how i understand it
[02:10] <Arwen> Alonea, a winmodem is a fake modem build into the motherboard or a PCI-* slot. It's like fakeraid (it sucks).
[02:10] <Arwen> Modems are either expensive internal cards with fancy logic circuits or boxes that attach via serial port.
[02:10] <Arwen> !modem
[02:10] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[02:11] <Alonea> Arwen: I honestly don't know what he actually has in his box at all internet wise.
[02:11] <Arwen> Alonea, probably a winmodem then :-)
[02:12] <Alonea> Arwen: like I said, know nothing at all about dialup. He might be getting dsl as soon as he can afford it
[02:12] <Arwen> yay for him :-)
[02:12] <Arwen> Alonea, anyway point him to !dialup :-)
[02:12] <Jack3> hey guys
[02:12] <Jack3> anyone here still?
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> which will be a heck of a lot sooner if you make it painfull
[02:12] <Jack3> im booted into kubuntu live cd
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> yeppers JAck3
[02:13] <Jack3> any ideas what to do now
[02:13] <Alonea> Arwen: the big problem for the longest time was that where he lives, his only choice was dialup or satellite, which is my area, is worse than dialup
[02:13] <Jack3> i wasnt able to successful login to root
[02:13] <Jack3> it just said it was wrong pass
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: yep.
[02:13] <Arwen> Alonea, ouch :-\
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> do a "sudo chroot <your hd partion with linux on it>" that is after you have mounted that partition
[02:14] <Alonea> Arwen: his house was like 2 blocks from the line for I think cable internet. they finally extended it farther out
[02:14] <Arwen> hah
[02:14] <Jack3> how do i know what hd i mounted on?
[02:14] <Jack3> hd0?
[02:14] <Jack3> i dunno
[02:14] <Arwen> Too bad really, I'm waiting for fiber to reach my place. Then again, since this is the U.S., that might not happen till after I die.
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: ok... do a "sudo fdisk /dev/hda" and then "p"
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> oyu only have one HD right?
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> Jack3 that will tell you what your linux partition.
[02:15] <Jack3> it saysunable to open/dev/hda
[02:15] <Alonea> Arwen: heh. I am lucky to have cable.
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: is it a SATA disc?
[02:15] <Jack3> no, its  alaptop
[02:16] <Jack3> well, i guess i dont actulal know if its sata
[02:16] <Jack3> but i doubt it
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: is it a recent laptop?
[02:16] <Arwen> Jack3, that was rather a non-sequitur... what's the fact that it's a laptop have to do with SATA?
[02:16] <Jack3> yes
[02:17] <Jack3> i thought my hardrive waas called sda1 before
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> well its probably got SATA then.
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> so its sata..
[02:17] <Arwen> Jack3, sda? probably SATA then
[02:17] <Jack3> okay
[02:17] <Jack3> so now what?
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> ok.... do a "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[02:17] <Jack3> ok
[02:18] <drkns> byz ppl
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> and then a "sudo chroot /mnt"
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> hrm
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> do NOT close that konsole
[02:19] <Jack3> it says
[02:19] <Jack3> chroot /mnt
[02:19] <Jack3> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> bye
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> is there an equivalent to EAC for linux?
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> they got of chroot in the newest kubuntu? WTH?
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> no... I have it...
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> you sure you put a sudo b4 it?
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: EAC?
[02:21] <Jack3> i just did sudo -s
[02:21] <Random_Transit> hey, does anyone here know how to set KDE up to accept VNC connections?
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> whts the -s do?
[02:21] <Daisuke_Ido> Jack3: you're better off following directions exactly, better results, probably
[02:21] <Jack3> its to input the pass so you stay as root
[02:22] <Jack3> anyways, i tried sudo chroot /mnt
[02:22] <Jack3> same result
[02:22] <Random_Transit> !vnc
[02:22] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> wait a sec... it says it can't run bash... that means it can't run bash from WITHIN your linux install....
[02:22] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is a cd ripper that does extensive error correction for a perfect bit-for-bit copy
[02:23] <Jack3> how do i unmount the sda1/
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> ah.
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: why?
[02:23] <Jack3> cause i want to move it to a folder konqueror can view
[02:23] <nosrednaekim>  go into konquror and type "/mnt" in the location bar
[02:23] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm using kaudiocreator for now, it copies quite nicely, but doesn't play well with some scratched discs
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> scratched discs don't play well ... Perios..lol
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> *period
[02:24] <Jack3> it doesnt have the permissions to acess it
[02:24] <Jack3> it need root access
[02:24] <Jack3> and konqueror wont start in root
[02:25] <Hirvinen> !root > Jack3
[02:25] <Jack3> yeh i tried sudo konqueror
[02:25] <Jack3> i just get a bunch of errors
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> do "kdesu konqueror"
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not talking about gouges, i'm talking about little scratches that might cause a skip here and there.
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> not sudo...KDESU
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> its different
[02:25] <Jack3> i just get an error about cannot connect to X server
[02:26] <Jack3> using kdesu as well
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> oh.. ok..
[02:26] <Jack3> well, how do i unmount it
[02:26] <nosrednaekim>  well.. navigate to /mnt in a konsole with "cd /mnt"
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> you CAN unmount it with "sudo umount /mnt" But please don't yet.
[02:27] <Jack3> hgmm wrong hdd
[02:27] <Jack3> thats my windows partition
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> AH!
[02:27] <Jack3> so we might as well unmount
[02:27] <Jack3> :P
[02:27] <Jack3> im assumin linux is sda2?
[02:27] <Jack3> or sda0
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> lol..
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> no wonder it couldn'tfind bash
[02:27] <Jack3> :D
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> sda 2 I'd be betting on
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> Jack3: probably 2
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/en/index.php/overview/features/features-of-eac/
[02:28] <Jack3> lolnope, tahts the recovery partition
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> sda3 for the win!
[02:28] <Jack3> :D
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> of couse.. that could be swap with our luck
[02:29] <Daisuke_Ido> swap before / ?
[02:29] <Jack3> sda 3 has more windows things
[02:29] <Jack3> wtf o.0
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: do a "sudo fdisk /dev/sda1"
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> then "p"
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> need something a little stronger here
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> that'll tell you what partion linux is on
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> like aspirin cubed?
[02:30] <Jack3> im at a Command line
[02:31] <Jack3> not the normal shell
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> it;ll still work.
[02:31] <Jack3> no, like thats what happened when i did fdisk
[02:31] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: Ibuprofen in my drug of choice. girl's best friend
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> tylenol-3 (tylenol + codeine)
[02:32] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: heh. bet that is good too.
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: what did it do?
[02:32] <Daisuke_Ido> makes ya feel gooooood
[02:32] <Daisuke_Ido> anyway, back to the situation at hand
[02:32] <Alonea> Daisuke_Ido: I just like the pain going completely away very quickly
[02:32] <Jack3> http://pastebin.ca/490423
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> that wasn't very nice
[02:33] <lascar> kubuntu froze while upgrading to feisty.  Now it locks whenever I try to boot into it; I can't even get to any sort of console.  Any ideas?
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Jack3: so what's the problem?
[02:33] <Jack3> that doesnt seem to telll me where linux is installed :P
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: ok..put a p and hit enter
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> he said press p :)
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> lascar: umm.... get a fiesty Cd, get you files off and reinstall
[02:34] <Jack3> http://pastebin.ca/490426
[02:34] <Jack3> i forgot p :P
[02:36] <Jack3> so im confused which of those is linux
[02:36] <Daisuke_Ido> um...  sudo fdisk /dev/sda maybe
[02:36] <Daisuke_Ido> not sda1
[02:36] <Jack3> also im disturbed by the netware one having 0 blocks
[02:36] <hangthedj> if you just do sudo fdisk -l it will list all partitions and filetypes
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> oh wait... did I say sda1? lol... my bad.
[02:37] <Jack3> ah its sda5
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> hangthedj: thats nice to know
[02:37] <Jack3> thx hang
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> ok.. do the chrot thingy on sda5
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> *chroot
[02:39] <lascar> nosrednaekim: i should be able to glean important files from a dapper live cd, no?
[02:40] <Jack3> okay now what
[02:40] <lascar> and if i can do that, couldn't i just finish the upgrade?
[02:40] <Jack3> that didnt really do anything
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> lascar: yeah... you chould
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> now... as long as you didn't close that terminal... you are now in your linux installation
[02:40] <Jack3> oh,cool
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> now...go into /home/<your username>
[02:41] <Jack3> yeh, there
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> did you try to delete the large file you DL?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> (downloaded)
[02:42] <Jack3> well they arent there
[02:42] <Jack3> but wheres the trash folder
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> ok... ".local"
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> or rather .local/share/Trash
[02:44] <Arwen> on GNOME, it's .Trash
[02:44] <Jack3> yeh im there
[02:44] <Arwen> you'd think they could agree on something that simple :-\
[02:44] <Jack3> just like 1mb worth of files
[02:44] <Jack3> fuck
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> tsk tsk
[02:44] <Jack3> and konqueror still shows 0b free for the linux partition
[02:44] <Jack3> what is going on!
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> we say fsck
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> run a "df"
[02:44] <Jack3> df?
[02:44] <Arwen> !terminal | Jack3
[02:44] <ubotu> Jack3: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:45] <Daisuke_Ido> and if it's read only, it would show 0b free wouldn't it?
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> that'll tell you if konquror is right
[02:45] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, no
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> no..
[02:45] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[02:45] <Daisuke_Ido> worth a shot
[02:45] <Jack3> http://pastebin.ca/490448
[02:46] <Jack3> sounds right
[02:46] <Jack3> :(
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> ok.. its full.
[02:46] <Jack3> i deleted 800mb or so of files
[02:46] <Jack3> something is wrong
[02:46] <Arwen> Jack3, this a live CD?
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> did you delete them as root?
[02:46] <Jack3> i just emptied the trashbin before a rebooted
[02:46] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: chroot environment
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> and did you delete them from the command line or konqueror?
[02:47] <Jack3> but they arent in the trashbin, and they arent in there folder
[02:47] <Jack3> so i dunno where they would be
[02:47] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, that might be it
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> look in " /home/.Trash-0"
[02:48] <Jack3> no such file/dir
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[02:48] <Daisuke_Ido> if he did it as root...  does kubuntu use /root for root's home?
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> yeah... it does..but he went to HIS home dir.
[02:49] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> unless of course he delete those files as root.
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: run a "find file" on "/mnt" for the file name of the big file you DL.
[02:50] <Jack3> i dont remember it :X
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: lol..
[02:50] <Jack3> im using konqueror to check the size of all thefolders in / to see if they add up
[02:51] <Jack3> and see which one has the most
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[02:51] <Daisuke_Ido> apt-get clean is another option to see if he can actually clear space or if there's something more serious, i dunno, maybe?  again, i'm just pulling ideas from my nether-regions
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> did you delete the file as root?
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> that file is still around me thinks.
[02:52] <Jack3> i just it through kde
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[02:52] <Jack3> i just clicked empty taskbin
[02:52] <Jack3> err trashbin
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> what was the file?
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> did you send it to trash?
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> look in /tmp as well
[02:53] <Jack3> um this is bad
[02:53] <Jack3> total = 5gb
[02:53] <Jack3> it says i have 11.6gb used
[02:54] <dope> how do i know what user php is running under
[02:54] <dope> i have ubuntu server edition
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: look at his pastebin.... something is definately funny with it...
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> it says the kernel modules ahev 11 GB allocated to them.
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> yeah... some thing is definately weird with that.
[02:55] <Jack3> :
[02:55] <Jack3> (
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> this is what it SHOULD look like http://pastebin.ca/490462
[02:56] <dope> how do i know what user php is running under
[02:57] <Jack3> eek
[02:57] <Jack3> whats goin on
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> everything should not be %100
[02:57] <Jack3> :(
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> I have never see this Jack3
[02:57] <jhutchins_lt> Jack3: May I suggest that you reboot?
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> go over to #linux.
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> maybe they can help over there.
[02:57] <jhutchins_lt> Note that everything also has the same size and usage.
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> he's in a Live cd, chrooted.
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> I know
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> weird eh?
[02:58] <MATADIO> the whole partition thing isnt working
[02:58] <MATADIO> and now my windows is messed up
[02:58] <MATADIO> :(
[02:59] <mofo> have a question about kmail and adding a vcard to my email  :-S
[03:00] <jhutchins_lt> question is unanswerable unless stated.
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> well Jack3: I have to go... I hope someone else can solve your problem
[03:00] <Jack3> :( thx
[03:00] <MATADIO> i need help partitioning
[03:00] <mofo> how does one add a vcard contact info, to kmail..
[03:01] <jhutchins_lt> mofo: I've had trouble importing apple vcards...
[03:01] <jhutchins_lt> mofo: Try this: save the file.
[03:01] <mofo> I/m trying to write a email, and send a vcard threw kmail to my client.
[03:02] <jhutchins_lt> mofo: Ok, right click on contact, choose Send Contact.
[03:03] <MATADIO> If you can help with partitioning, query me!
[03:03] <mofo> hmm, right click on contact, and send contact info
[03:04] <jhutchins_lt> mofo: in kaddressbook.
[03:04] <mofo> ok
[03:04] <mofo> can that be done threw kmail ??
[03:05] <jhutchins_lt> well, yeah, open the addressbook in kmail - that's kaddressbook.
[03:06] <mofo> okay,
[03:06] <mofo> tks
[03:06] <MATADIO> can i get help with partitioning
[03:07] <jhutchins_lt> MATADIO: Possibly.  What help do you want.
[03:09] <jordo23> Has anyone been having problems with Ktorrent?  Ktorrent seems to work fine, but some time within a half an hour it crashes and I get a KDE Trace Crash box....
[03:09] <MATADIO> i want to dual partition my drive so i can run windows and kde, sounds simple but its not working
[03:09] <MATADIO> and it killed my windows
[03:09] <jordo23> MATADIO: I ran dual boot Windows/Kubuntu....what's the problem?
[03:12] <MATADIO> i cant get it to work
[03:12] <MATADIO> it wont let me resize the windows partition
[03:12] <MATADIO> :@
[03:14] <jordo23> MATADIO: Using QT parted?
[03:14] <jhutchins_lt> MATADIO: What tool are you using?
[03:14] <jordo23> MATADIO: Should be able to.....you may want to install windows and set the partition size smaller that way...
[03:15] <jordo23> MATADIO: That way when you install Kubuntu it can install to unpartitioned space....
[03:17] <jhutchins_lt> If it doesn't talk, we eats it.
[03:17] <Coldwar55> Is there a way to change between embedded movie players?
[03:18] <david2> ugh I need to figure out how to get more signal strenght from my wireless router
[03:18] <jordo23> Coldwar55: You can right-click on the player itself and change it in the configure menu....between Xine, Mplayer, and Gstreamer (if installed) I believe...
[03:18] <Coldwar55> Because I installed Mplayer
[03:18] <Coldwar55> Then I installed Totem
[03:18] <Coldwar55> And I seriously dislike totem
[03:19] <Coldwar55> because it messes with the colors
[03:19] <jordo23> Coldwar55: When the player is open, hover over the menu and right-click, do you see a 'configure' menu?
[03:19] <Coldwar55> In the Browser Window?
[03:20] <jordo23> Coldwar55: Yeah.....but I have only tested this solution in a separate open browser embedded video...
[03:20] <Coldwar55> Ok
[03:20] <Coldwar55> Well no I don't
[03:20] <Coldwar55> All I get is
[03:20] <Coldwar55> About and open Movie in player
[03:20] <Coldwar55> And copy location
[03:20] <Coldwar55> Using FireFox
[03:20] <jordo23> Coldwar55: Try opening it to a separate player...then repeat
[03:21] <Coldwar55> Nope nothing in Totem that has Configure
[03:23] <Dekkard> scuse me.. what is the name of the package that enables mp3 playback with aRts(noatun etc)?
[03:23] <Coldwar55> Maybe I should just remove Totem all together
[03:23] <Coldwar55> Since it gives horribly play back quality
[03:24] <TheDebugger> Dekkard: libxine-extracodecs i think
[03:24] <Dekkard> hmm
[03:25] <Dekkard>  already have that installed noatun wont play mp3.. just ogg
[03:25] <jgibbar> can someone help me with packages
[03:25] <Coldwar55> Thanks anyways jordor23
[03:25] <Coldwar55> I'll just remove totem
[03:25] <dope> i have a php script that writes a file and I it will not write the file.  permission problem and i can't narrow it down
[03:26] <jgibbar> adept manager keeps telling me that the database is locked
[03:26] <Lam_> i'm trying to install fglrx 8.36.5 and i followed the guide on cchtml down to the dot but am still getting mesa
[03:26] <david2> anyone use a repeater?
[03:28] <lascar> jgibbar: run adept as root
[03:28] <jgibbar> I don't currently but I have in the past david2
[03:29] <jgibbar> what do I type after kdesu in the run prompt for adept
[03:30] <jgibbar> never mind I ran adept as root and I get this message "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."
[03:31] <jgibbar> I have already tried to reboot and I  can't find anything else running
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[03:31] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:34] <jgibbar> ok now adept won't start, I copying your text and just pasted it into konsole
[03:34] <jgibbar> copied^
[03:35] <steffen> is there a firewall installed when i install linux?
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> jgibbar: hmmm ok.
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> that was the bots text.
[03:35] <david2> ugh
[03:35] <Arwen> steffen, yes, but not enabled by default
[03:35] <Arwen> !iptables | steffen
[03:35] <ubotu> steffen: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:35] <david2> need to wait on this
[03:36] <jgibbar> anyone have any Ideas, should I just try to reboot again?
[03:36] <steffen> Arwen: thanks.
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> jgibbar: yeah maybe you should try that again.
[03:38] <dsmith_> Even Bill Gates recommends Ubuntu...   http://www.fayerwayer.com/up/2007/04/bill_gates_ubuntu_mini.jpg
[03:39] <Lam_> lol that's awesome
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> umm..ok
[03:40] <jgibbar> Ok the reboot lets adept run again thanks for all the help
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> NP
[03:41] <dsmith_> im puting that in my consulting folder
[03:41] <dsmith_> :P
[03:41] <thumper> anyone using beryl?
[03:41] <dsmith_> i do
[03:41] <dsmith_> sometimes
[03:41] <jgibbar> one more thing I have been trouble finding libdvdcss2 any suggestions on that?
[03:42] <thumper> I had all my window title bars go grey and unselectable
[03:42] <ardchoille> !libdvdcss
[03:42] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:42] <thumper> could move any windows
[03:42] <thumper> or change virtual desktops of them
[03:42] <thumper> :(
[03:42] <dsmith_> !beryl
[03:42] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:42] <thumper> ta
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> thumper: ok....you don't have a compositiing windows manager..
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> *window
[03:43] <thumper> nosrednaekim: ??
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> do you have an nvidia card? or an ATI?
[03:44] <Arwen> damn guarddog is confusing
[03:44] <thumper> nosrednaekim: using intel
[03:47] <ltmon> i can't seem to set my SSH_ASKPASS environment variable.  I've tried putting "export SSH_ASKPASS=blah" in .xsession, .xinitrc, .bashrc, .bash_login -- but no matter what it doesn't seem to be recognized, "echo $SSH_ASKPASS" is blank and it's not in the output of "export".  Anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong?
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> thumper: ok....how did you start beryl?
[03:50] <intelikey> hmmm i installed windows on my hdc  and now that disk wont boot.     it says not a valid boot disk
[03:51] <routh> I need help anyone not busy?
[03:51] <intelikey> so it did write to the mbr but didn't make it bootable    errr made it unbootable.   could boot grub there befor
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> routh: ask away
[03:51] <goat> anyone want to help a dumbass ( namely me ) get google earth installed?
[03:52] <routh> I did an update after a fresh install of kubuntu dapper and now I don't have any access permissions to usb drives
[03:52] <intelikey> hitmanWilly likes helping that type goat
[03:52] <routh> I can't figure out why it won't give me access...
[03:52] <thumper> nosrednaekim: not running it right now, rebooted
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> how DID you start it?
[03:53] <thumper> nosrednaekim: but I think I started it using beryl-manager from the command line
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> thumper: ok...first you have to start "beryl"
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> and THEN beryl-manager
[03:53] <goat> hitmanWilly: you like helping dumbies?  I am trying to show my mom her house on google earth real quick
[03:53] <intelikey> quote even
[03:54] <goat> figured it would be in adept... I was wrong
[03:56] <intelikey> aw man grub is not installed.  so i don't guess i will just reinstall grub on that drive
[03:56] <routh> nosrednaekim: I did an update on kubuntu and now I can't access any usbdisk drives that are inserted - says I don't have access permissions - because the drive is an NTFS it won't let me chmod as it's a RO filesystem - and messing with fstab has proved unusefil. But befreo the update it worked perfect, I can't firgure what the update changed..
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> do you have "fuse" and ntfs-3g installed?
[03:57] <intelikey> goat the hitman said you have to go to google and dl the installer
[03:58] <hitmanWilly> goat: you have to go to google itself and download the installer, feisty's commercial repos still haven't been filled up yet
[03:58] <goat> intelikey  thank you
[03:58] <goat> and hitman willy as well
[03:58] <goat> I am sorry for not searching more
[03:58] <hitmanWilly> np...
[03:58] <goat> moms just trying to get to bed
[03:58] <goat> and knew you guys would not stear me wrong
[03:58] <goat> I was right
[03:58] <goat> THANK YOU
[04:00] <routh> nosrednaekim: was that fuse and ntfs-3g meant for me?
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> routh: yeah... sorry
[04:00] <routh> lemme check
[04:03] <routh> libfuse - fuse-utils - which do you mean? I don't see a plain 'fuse package - at any rate none of those are installed
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. I think you need both of those... as well as ntfs-3g
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> routh: ^^
[04:05] <tylerness> hello
[04:05] <steffen> can i get a list of ports that are used? (ex. 83464          eggdrop)
[04:05] <routh> nosrednaekim: nothing ntfs related is installed either - which is weird since it worked before - I can't find an "ntfs-3g" just ntfsprogs and ntfstools
[04:05] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g
[04:05] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:06] <routh> nosredneakim: I should mention I'm on kubuntu dapper
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> hmm....ok
[04:07] <intelikey> possably back-ports  but not in the main *verse dapper repos
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> ok... yeah I guess so.
[04:08] <kristjan_> Do I understand it correctly - http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php - you can install kde4 safely alongside kde3.5?
[04:09] <Jucato> kristjan_: yes
[04:09] <gnomefreak> define safely
[04:11] <gnomefreak> crashes are likely with kde4 so safely isnt the word i would use.
[04:11] <kristjan_> gnomefreak: won't screw my existing kde
[04:11] <intelikey> yeah    safe ?    safe as in a safty deposit box,   or safe as in safe sex ?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> kristjan_: no it shouldnt
[04:11] <kristjan_> intelikey: I can't see similarities between desktop and sex?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> you must have never seen my backgrounds than :)
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> wow, kristjan_, how long have you been hanging around linux users?
[04:12] <intelikey> kristjan_ good for you
[04:12] <goat> intelikey and hitmanwilley   thanks again  I am rocking and rolling with google earth now
[04:13] <goat> she ( my mom ) has never seen anything so interesting as google earth before
[04:13] <intelikey> goat   sorry for any confusion.    and you're welcome
[04:13] <jgibbar> I tried everything you pointed me to for dvd playback but I still get this message with gxine <<No demuxer found - stream format not recognised>>
[04:13] <goat> LOL   my mom just said to (type thank you for me too)
[04:13] <gnomefreak> jgibbar: make sure you have all libxine packages installed and you use regionset
[04:13] <intelikey> greexen sounds good.
[04:13] <gnomefreak> or whatever its called
[04:13] <intelikey> greezen
[04:14] <gnomefreak> out ;)
[04:21] <kristjan_> hmm, it seems installing kde4 requires removing apport
[04:21] <MurcimiRiAm28> hola a tod@s
[04:21] <MurcimiRiAm28> :D
[04:22] <jgibbar> gnomefreak: still did not work, tired of fooling with it, too hungry I will try later, thanks though, so far beats the crap out of vista
[04:22] <kristjan_> When do I have to run "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib" http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php
[04:23] <dsmith__> google earth is sweet
[04:24] <dsmith__> worth the effort to install
[04:24] <dsmith__> in if its ported
[04:24] <dsmith__> evn if
[04:24] <MurcimiRiAm28> http://www.nuevointernet.com/votar.asp?id=84
[04:24] <MurcimiRiAm28> :D
[04:25] <PsiKloPx> I just switched over from PCLinux0S to Kubuntu (dual booting with Windows MC) and am having problems getting beryl to work.  no errors.  Just nothing changes.  Any ideas?
[04:27] <kristjan_> PsiKloPx: #ubuntu-effects
[04:27] <PsiKloPx> thanx
[04:28] <Jack3> crap
[04:28] <Jack3> i just fixed my 0bytes free problem
[04:28] <Jack3> but now theres something new
[04:28] <goat> ok  moms in bed now...
[04:28] <kristjan_> Jucato: do I have to run "export" commands if I choose to create "kde4" login in kdm?
[04:28] <ironcladlou> using kubuntu feisty, every new window i open (no matter what the application) appears in the lower left of my screen. what gives?
[04:28] <Jack3> the swap file partition says it cant mount when i try to boot up
[04:28] <Jack3> any idea on how to fix that
[04:28] <goat> whats the best channel to help me install the ATI mobility 9000 drivers
[04:29] <Jucato> kristjan_: the instructions are on that page. you'd have to include the export commands in a config file (forgot which)
[04:29] <goat> NOTE: no protected driver manager in Kubuntu
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> goat: follow the edgy (6.10) instructions, they should still work for feisty
[04:32] <intelikey> jack3  you might format it again.    sudo mkswap /dev/<the device node>
[04:32] <goat> hitmanwilley: sorry to be thick headed. where are these docs?
[04:32] <goat> I can't seem to phrase my searches well tonight
[04:32] <Jucato> !ati | goat
[04:32] <ubotu> goat: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:32] <goat> and end up all over
[04:32] <Jack3> intelikey, will that ruin my linux install?
[04:32] <goat> thank you yet again
[04:32] <goat> you guys are great
[04:33] <intelikey> jack3 not if you input the correct devicenode.      sudo fdisk -l    to see the partition tables
[04:33] <intelikey> jack3 do you need swap ?
[04:34] <Jack3> i duno
[04:34] <Jack3> its sda6
[04:34] <david2> how you get ut2004 working 64 bit?
[04:35] <Jack3> Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 1052798 kB
[04:35] <Jack3> no label, UUID=8d55bcf1-de70-4161-8f1d-d057ef689ca
[04:35] <goat> should I still follow the advice about NOT installing the control panel.. or have the bugs been worked out?
[04:35] <Jack3> does that mean it worked?
[04:36] <intelikey> jack3 blkid   and see what sda6 is now   and then set it accordingly in /etc/fstab
[04:36] <intelikey> assuming your swap is ran through fstab....
[04:36] <david2> libstdc++.so.5 ?? what package is that?
[04:37] <david2> libstdc++5 or libstdc++5-3.3-dev ??
[04:37] <vbgunz> I just bought a new hard drive. I would like to move everything Linux/Kubuntu from the smaller hard drive to the bigger one. Anyone have a good idea how to start?
[04:37] <intelikey> david2 i would assume  libstdc++5    yes.    i only have  libstdc++6
[04:38] <Jucato> david2: installed the package "build-essential"?
[04:38] <Jack3> whathe command line text editror?
[04:38] <david2>  i did
[04:38] <Jack3> whats*
[04:38] <intelikey> nano
[04:38] <Jack3> thx
[04:38] <Jucato> hm...
[04:38] <intelikey> np
[04:38] <Jack3> intelikey, do i need to change this /dev/sda6 swap swap defaults 0 0
[04:39] <intelikey> shouldn't.
[04:39] <Jack3> alrite, i guess ill try to restart
[04:39] <intelikey> jack3 only if it was using the blkid and the blkid changes with a reformat
[04:39] <vbgunz> I know I would need to make 3 partitions on the new drive. 1 for /, swap and /home. *but* what else should I do? I know I need to tell grub but anything else, anyone?
[04:39] <intelikey> so short answer   no
[04:40] <kristjan_> Jucato: you were right, insctuction about export are in the end of the article
[04:40] <Jack3> okay thx
[04:40] <intelikey> vbgunz the installer will make the partitions   just make free unallocated space and go.
[04:41] <vbgunz> intelikey: sorry. I already installed Kubuntu a year ago. I just bought a bigger hard drive and don't want to reinstall. I want to *move* everything linux/Kubuntu off off that one drive and onto the bigger one. I need to edit, fstab and grub and move? is that all?
[04:42] <intelikey> ah  a migration.
[04:42] <vbgunz> I guess you can say that :)
[04:42] <kristjan_> Jucato: could you please look at your /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde - are the "export" lines at very top of the file, or after "#!/bin/sh"?
[04:43] <Jucato> kristjan_: I don't have kde4 installed
[04:43] <intelikey> vbgunz then   sudo fdisk -l     and see what partitions the old disk is using and set the new one accordingly
[04:43] <vbgunz> intelikey, yes. I was going to do that. but to make it successful, I edit fstab and grub. is that all?
[04:44] <kristjan_> can the  "export" lines be placed at the _very_ top of #!/bin/sh ?
[04:44] <Jucato> kristjan_: but mostly everything comes after #!/bin/sh
[04:44] <intelikey>  /boot/grub/devices.list
[04:44] <intelikey> err tab complete that ^
[04:44] <intelikey> i don't think it's plural
[04:44] <Jucato> kristjan_: or rather, all shell scripts must begin with #!/bin/sh (called the shebang)
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> or #!/bin/bash, #!/bin/csh, #!/bin/ksh, etc :)
[04:46] <Jucato> yeah, well... :)
[04:46] <james> does anyone know how to bandwidth throttle users using my ubuntu server as a router?
[04:46] <intelikey> vbgunz yes if grub can boot it   and the root is set to the correct device node that snould be all you need
[04:46] <kristjan_> Jucato: I think this is ok then http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1268/pilt2je0.png ?
[04:47] <Jucato> kristjan_: looks ok to me, if that's what the instructions say. oh and next time, you could just use a pastebin to show text :)
[04:47] <Jucato> !pastebin | kristjan_
[04:47] <ubotu> kristjan_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:47] <bassgoon> hey I put in the dvd, and selected install, its an older 1.2ghz celeron with 512mb of ram...but it seems to be taking a LONG time to load
[04:48] <intelikey> hitmanWilly heh or   #!/usr/bin/expect -e
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> lol
[04:48] <bassgoon> oh
[04:48] <bassgoon> there it goes
[04:48] <bassgoon> but it says user no known to the underlying authentication module
[04:48] <bassgoon> is that normal...?
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> bassgoon: live cd's/dvd's always take awhile
[04:49] <bassgoon> ok
[04:49] <bassgoon> it says failed to read block"
[04:49] <bassgoon> and failed to read page
[04:49] <bassgoon> sound like a bad disc?
[04:49] <intelikey> yep
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> bingo
[04:49] <bassgoon> well...the data verification passed...
[04:49] <intelikey> should  be a disk test option
[04:50] <intelikey> yeah that
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> md5's are not foolproof
[04:50] <bassgoon> well
[04:50] <bassgoon> it passed neros verification
[04:50] <bassgoon> when it burned
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> bad img download possibly as well
[04:50] <kristjan_> haha, it crashed after 4secs I logged in
[04:50] <bassgoon> possible
[04:50] <bassgoon> took so dang long to dl
[04:50] <bassgoon> maybe I'll just try the cd
[04:50] <intelikey> bassgoon no.  on the disk it's self,  one boot option is   test this disk ?
[04:51] <bassgoon> yeah
[04:51] <bassgoon> I'm trying it
[04:51] <intelikey> or verify this disk
[04:51] <bassgoon> this maky take some time...
[04:51] <bassgoon> :p
[04:51] <bassgoon> well thanks for helping an impatient noob :p
[04:52] <bassgoon> what's the difference between an 'alternate' and a 'desktop' iso?
[04:52] <kristjan_> bassgoon: alternate doesn't have livecd
[04:52] <bassgoon> oh
[04:52] <bassgoon> so if I just want to install...
[04:52] <Jucato> bassgoon: Desktop CD = Live CD with graphical installer
[04:53] <Jucato> Alternate Install CD = text-based installer with more advanced options
[04:53] <bassgoon> ah
[04:53] <intelikey> hey at least we didn't do you like the call in support on most things anymore.    they put talking to a machine for at least 5 minutes.   not because they are all busy, oh no. it's so you will cool off and not bless them out...
[04:53] <bassgoon> I can probably swing the text based one
[04:53] <bassgoon> not a total noob
[04:53] <bassgoon> :p
[04:53] <eye_> Does anyone know anything about gtkmm?
[04:54] <Jucato> eye_: try if there's a #gtk channel?
[04:54] <bassgoon> does kubuntu usually recognize all the devices on older dell laptops?
[04:54] <Hatsuyuki> the text mode installer is easy peasy even if you ARE a noob (back when I first tried kubuntu (breezy) there was only text installer)
[04:54] <bassgoon> Hatsuyuki, I've tried a lot of crazy linux distros before
[04:54] <eye_> Jucato, yes! thank you!
[04:55] <bassgoon> I tried gentoo 64, and fc3 x64
[04:55] <Jucato> oh 64-bit...
[04:55] <Hatsuyuki> wouldnt call (k)ubuntu crazy personally but I <3 it sooo... lol
[04:55] <bassgoon> Hatsuyuki, no I wouldn't either
[04:55] <bassgoon> fc3 x64 and 2006.1 gentoo x64
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> bassgoon: u should have np
[04:55] <intelikey> Hatsuyuki some would
[04:55] <bassgoon> crazy
[04:55] <bassgoon> what about linksys wireless cards
[04:56] <Hatsuyuki> true, intelikey
[04:56] <dani> Hi! Quick question, I installed ssh, and my public IP is 201.197.25.78.
[04:56] <intelikey> (crazy) that would be in  #ubuntu    this is #kubuntu we say (krazy) in here...  :)
[04:56] <Hatsuyuki> lol
[04:57] <Hatsuyuki> very true
[04:57] <bassgoon> in #ubuntu wouldn't it be grazy?
[04:57] <bassgoon> rofl
[04:57] <Hatsuyuki> lol, could be
[04:57] <dani> I tried to connect from my job, an Internal Network. I get into the login screen (konsole) somehow my authentication credentials never works...
[04:57] <intelikey> gcrazy
[04:57] <dani> ... am I missing something?
[04:57] <bassgoon> intelikey, there you go
[04:58] <Hatsuyuki> indeed (not that I have a problem with gtk apps tho)
[04:58] <bassgoon> is a 1.2ghz celeron a more likely candidate for xubuntu?
[04:58] <intelikey> dani using a password or a key
[04:58] <intelikey> ?
[04:58] <kristjan_> nah, I'll try kde4 with that livecd instead
[04:58] <Dhraakellian> $ glxgears
[04:58] <Dhraakellian> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:58] <Dhraakellian> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[04:59] <dani> what? I'm sorry I didn't catch you intelikey....
[04:59] <Jucato> kristjan_: much better if you just want to preview it. installing KDE 4 at this point is still for developers
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> bassgoon: you should be alright, this isn't M$ software here
[04:59] <intelikey> bassgoon why ?      i run kubuntu on a p1mmx 100mhz
[04:59] <Hatsuyuki> I've used all three k/x/ubuntu on a 500 mhz athalon mp so it's more a matter of taste, bassgoon
[04:59] <bassgoon> hehe
[04:59] <bassgoon> I know i like kde more
[04:59] <kristjan_> Jucato: yeah it just crashes, but those new icons are nice :)
[04:59] <intelikey> dani your auth method   password or ssh-key
[04:59] <bassgoon> you can easily make it behave like windows explorer ;)
[05:00] <ober0ne> how do you go about mounting an ntfs drive in feisty?
[05:00] <eye_> Jucato, nobody wants to help me :(
[05:00] <bassgoon> ober0ne, personally I avoid mounting ntfs from linux...
[05:00] <bassgoon> :/
[05:00] <ober0ne> lol
[05:00] <dani> Hi! Quick question, I installed ssh, and my public IP is 201.197.25.78.  I tried to connect from my job, an Internal Network. I get into the login screen (konsole) somehow my authentication credentials never works...
[05:00] <ober0ne> I understand that
[05:00] <Jucato> eye_: did they say that? or is it just because no one replies? big difference there
[05:00] <Hatsuyuki> I dont know ober0ne, I have no ntfs drives
[05:01] <Dhraakellian> hmm... correct monitor (IBM 6557 P92), correct graphics card (geforce2 with proprietary drivers)
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> ober0ne: either as type ntfs, (read-only), or with ntfs-3g (rw)
[05:01] <intelikey> dani i saw that.    are you "typing in a password"   or using an ssh-key for the authentication ?
[05:01] <ober0ne> I just got the 3g package a few minutes ago, but I can't seem to find where it installed to
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> ober0ne: just mount it normal w/ type ntfs-3g
[05:02] <GWillakers> dani, what's the pw, i'll try from here! :)
[05:02] <ober0ne> ok, so how do I do that?
[05:02] <ober0ne> what command do I enter in the terminal?
[05:02] <ober0ne> sudo mount sda1?
[05:02] <intelikey> GWillakers heh  i though of that...
[05:02] <Hatsuyuki> ober0ne: you can check in adept/synaptic where it installed to
[05:03] <eye_> Jucato. Sorry, no one replies. I don't speak English very well, so I say that because it's too hard for me to explain me
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> ober0ne: mount -t ntfs-3g </device> </mount/point>
[05:03] <ober0ne> how do I know my mountpoint?
[05:03] <GWillakers> I'm jazzed... there was a samba update today that fixed all of my networking problems!!
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> !mount | ober0ne
[05:03] <ubotu> ober0ne: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:04] <Jucato> eye_: well, this is IRC support. just because no one replies doesn't mean they don't "want" to help. it just means that 1) no one there to read your questions (lots of people just lurk around), 2) those who can read it don't know the answer
[05:04] <ober0ne> !diskmounter
[05:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[05:04] <intelikey> sudo mount -o fmask=111,dmask=000 -t ntfs-3g </dev/device-node> </mount/point>
[05:05] <intelikey> eye_ you might find a support channel that talks your tongue
[05:05] <eye_> Ok, Jucato, I Know, I'm so sorry, you know what it happen
[05:05] <eye_> Jucato, I know that www.gtkmm.org exists, but all is in English, so I don't understand
[05:06] <Jucato> ah, well... sorry couldn't help you out
[05:07] <intelikey> !es | eye_
[05:07] <ubotu> eye_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:09] <eye_> intelikey, yes, but nobody knows about that, thank you, and you many times had help me and never says me that I don't speak English
[05:11] <intelikey> eye_ we do what we can.      and your english is better than mine sometimes
[05:11] <ober0ne> thanks... got it running
[05:12] <ober0ne> no reason now for me to ever go back to windoze!
[05:12] <ober0ne> *maniacal laugh*
[05:12] <intelikey> wasn't in the first place...
[05:12] <intelikey> :)
[05:12] <Hatsuyuki> grats, ober0ne
[05:12] <ober0ne> tnx
[05:12] <Jack3_> hey guys
[05:12] <Jack3_> small rpoblme
[05:13] <Jack3_> the swap isnt mountin still
[05:13] <ober0ne> thanks to vlc, I can watch DVD's, listen to all my music, and thanks to you guys I can still use my windows partition
[05:13] <ober0ne> I love you guys
[05:13] <intelikey> Jack3_ can you enable it manually ?
[05:13] <Hatsuyuki> did your fstb someone get messed up, Jack3_?
[05:13] <Jack3_> how??/
[05:13] <eye_> jajaja, intelikey, I'm sorry, I forgot that you're not from US, And thank you for all!
[05:13] <intelikey> Jack3_   sudo swapon /dev/sda6
[05:13] <intelikey> eye_ welcome.
[05:14] <Jack3_> swapon: cannot stat /dev/sda6: No such file or directory
[05:14] <dr_willis> i use vlc under windows even. :)
[05:14] <Jack3_> but thats probably cause im using chroot in the mounted sda5
[05:14] <Jack3_> from the livecd
[05:14] <linuxnobb> hi, is 7.0 beta?
[05:14] <linuxnobb> which one is the damn stable version for christ sake!!!!
[05:15] <intelikey> yeah.   the device nodes are not there Jack3_    you can try out of the chroot.
[05:15] <dr_willis> feisty was just released.
[05:15] <dr_willis> its now considered stable.
[05:15] <Hatsuyuki> feisty 7.04 is stable
[05:15] <linuxnobb> ok thanks
[05:15] <intelikey> Jack3_ same command not in the chroot
[05:15] <Alpha_Cluster> does anyone here know if qt4-dev-tools is supposed to add menu items cause i thought it did
[05:15] <linuxnobb> wheew
[05:15] <dr_willis> its  not the "long term support" canadite however. :)
[05:15] <dr_willis> i think..
[05:15] <Hatsuyuki> nope, not LTS
[05:16] <Hatsuyuki> but veryt put together =)
[05:16] <linuxnobb> so is or isn't it???
[05:16] <dr_willis> isent what?
[05:16] <tin> linuxnobb: depends what you mean by stable
[05:16] <dr_willis> its stable but not LTS :)
[05:16] <Hatsuyuki> it's the curent stable and there is a LTS called dapper
[05:16] <linuxnobb> by stable I mean for a non techie non-geeky person
[05:16] <dr_willis> so if you were a business.... you most likely would want to use LTS.
[05:16] <Hatsuyuki> both are supported right now
[05:17] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: Qt4 Designer isn't in your menus?
[05:17] <linuxnobb> na, this is for home use
[05:17] <tin> it contains "stable" (not beta) software, but hasn't been designated as a "long term support" release
[05:17] <Jack3_> swapon: /dev/sda6: Device or resource busy
[05:17] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: no its confusing me >.<
[05:17] <Hatsuyuki> then I'd go for feisty personally, linuxnobb
[05:17] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: nothing in K Menu -> Development?
[05:17] <intelikey> linuxnobb it was released,  so no longer in the development stage,    i.e. not beta  not alpha
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> Jack3_: that means its probably already on
[05:17] <linuxnobb> OMFG!!!
[05:17] <Jack3_> well soemthing is really wrong
[05:17] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: just KDevelop which i also have installed
[05:17] <linuxnobb> 1/2 beta??
[05:17] <linuxnobb> lol
[05:17] <Jack3_> when i login from normal kubuntu, the kde window manager doesnt load
[05:17] <Hatsuyuki> no, it's stable
[05:17] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: if you just installed it, and it didn't happen to update automatically, try running this command "kbuildsycoca --incremental" ignore the errors
[05:18] <linuxnobb> ok 7.0 right?
[05:18] <Jack3_> just a konsole pops up, it has no close or minimize buttons on it
[05:18] <Hatsuyuki> 7.04
[05:18] <linuxnobb> thanks
[05:18] <intelikey> Jack3_ maybe not.     what does    free   tell you ?
[05:18] <Jack3_> and trying kded says its already running
[05:18] <Hatsuyuki> np
[05:18] <Jack3_> free?
[05:18] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: still no
[05:18] <Jack3_> swap says 1028120 free
[05:18] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: hm.. try if qt designer is installed at all... I forgot the executable name
[05:18] <intelikey> yeah   if the swap partition is active   free   will show it
[05:19] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: I think "designer"
[05:19] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: ah my bad
[05:19] <tin> Jack3_: why are you running chroot'ed from the liveCD kernel?
[05:19] <Jucato> qt designer is only a "recommends", not a "depends". no it doesn't install any GUI app it seems
[05:19] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: just did that with reinstaling it and nothing
[05:19] <Jack3_> tin, i duno :\
[05:20] <Jack3_> i just have lots of problems
[05:20] <Jack3_> and its impossible to work sincei have 1 computer
[05:20] <linuxnobb> c'mon Shuttleworth make KDE4 stable fast!! can't wait..
[05:20] <Jack3_> :(
[05:20] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: qt4-dev-tools doesn't seem to install any GUI app. probably comand line tools only
[05:20] <tin> problems like you can't boot straight to the disk?
[05:20] <dr_willis>  swapon -s    gives a bit of info.
[05:20] <intelikey> Jack3_ then the swap partition is active and about 1G in size.     boot the system and run    free    and see if it's activated there.
[05:20] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: well i also have qt4-designer installed but that isnt appearing
[05:20] <Jucato> ok that's weird...
[05:20] <intelikey> hehhe  -root: swapon: command not found
[05:20] <Alpha_Cluster> lol yeah it is
[05:21] <linuxnobb> look, how long KDE4 will take to become stable?
[05:21] <Alpha_Cluster> and when i try and run qt4-designer it says it doesnt exist
[05:21] <dr_willis> i am guessing at least 6 mo.
[05:21] <dr_willis> perhaps more then a year.
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> linuxnobb: supposedly by the end of the year
[05:21] <Hatsuyuki> according to the release shedule it's planned on being released in october
[05:21] <Jack3_> intelikey, i know its not activated on the system
[05:21] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: how about running it with "designer" only?
[05:22] <Jack3_> when i did ubuntu failsafe
[05:22] <Jack3_> i typed startx
[05:22] <voidmage> linuxnobb: october 23 (5 days after gutsy release) is current release date
[05:22] <Jack3_> and it started kde and all
[05:22] <Jack3_> so i did ctrl esc
[05:22] <dr_willis> i hate to see things rushed to just meet a deadlline.
[05:22] <Jack3_> and it said no swap available
[05:22] <Jucato> s/current/target
[05:22] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: ok yeah then it works
[05:22] <Alpha_Cluster> got wonderful QT 4.2.3 designer
[05:22] <linuxnobb> this is retarded European servers are faster than USA Empire
[05:22] <intelikey> Jack3_ why failsafe ?
[05:22] <Jucato> dr_willis: knowing KDE, it won't probably release in 23 Oct if it's not ready yet ;)
[05:23] <dr_willis> Jucato,  yep - i hope not.
[05:23] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: there you have it :)
[05:23] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: lol thanks
[05:23] <Alpha_Cluster> i feel stupid now lol
[05:23] <Hatsuyuki> which means gutsy +1 will more then likely be the first release I try KDE4 lol
[05:23] <Jucato> dr_willis: of course, I don't want them to release in 2008 either :P
[05:23] <dr_willis> given how its such a big jump. Ive not even tested any of the kde4 releases/betas stuff
[05:23] <Jack3_> intelikey, because normal ubuntu doesnt start
[05:23] <Jack3_> as i said
[05:23] <Jucato> Hatsuyuki: most probably *not*
[05:23] <Jack3_> the kde doesnt start, just a console sometimes
[05:23] <Jack3_> i really dont know what im doing but i know something is really wrong
[05:23] <Alpha_Cluster> Ah i just cant wait till we get at least some more usable version
[05:23] <Hatsuyuki> enough time for some post-release bug fixes, lol
[05:23] <Hatsuyuki> why, Jucato?
[05:23] <Jucato> anyway, they will be releasing separate KDE 4 packages, or maybe even CD's for it
[05:24] <Jucato> Hatsuyuki: they're planning 8.04 to be the next LTS
[05:24] <Hatsuyuki> ah, okay
[05:24] <Jucato> and they don't want KDE 4.0 on an LTS release
[05:24] <Alpha_Cluster> yeah so we wont see KDE4 as default till afetr
[05:24] <Hatsuyuki> makes sense
[05:24] <Alpha_Cluster> though isnt there supposed to be avalable as an alt?
[05:24] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: that's the plan
[05:25] <Hatsuyuki> so gutsy +2 then... should be quite stable by then I think
[05:25] <Jucato> a separate CD.
[05:25] <linuxnobb> guys is the alternate install with LVM support LiveCD?
[05:25] <Alpha_Cluster> Hatsuyuki: i hope so
[05:25] <Alpha_Cluster> lol
[05:25] <Jucato> anyway, we already have separate KDE repositories anyway
[05:25] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: yeah but 4 is still not very nice lol
[05:25] <Hatsuyuki> true but they always seem buggy for me..
[05:25] <intelikey> Jack3_ ok.    being the confused communications and the haphazard system.   i'll just resort to answering your questions.   and stop making things more perplexing.
[05:25] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: it's called Alpha for a reason :)
[05:25] <linuxnobb> guys!!! is alternate install with LVM support?
[05:25] <linuxnobb> please somebody
[05:26] <Jucato> Hatsuyuki: yes, it's "Alpha" :)
[05:26] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: oh i know lol but i want to do some development stuff lol
[05:26] <Jucato> linuxnobb: yes
[05:26] <Jack3_> anyways, i really dont know what to do
[05:26] <Alpha_Cluster> im a CS student that is just about to be going on Summer break
[05:26] <Hatsuyuki> I meant even when a new KDE 3.5 gets packaged
[05:26] <Alpha_Cluster> to say the least you guys will see me a bit here lol
[05:26] <Jack3_> because something is causing a major problem, and it seems like it might be swap, but i dunno how to fix that
[05:27] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: well, the presumption would be you should already know your way around a bit if you want to do development stuff. anyway, #kubunt-devel would be a nice place to ask about the kde4 packages and #kde4-devel for KDE 4 development
[05:27] <Hatsuyuki> the ones in dapper/edgy were always buggy for me
[05:27] <intelikey> Jack3_ just a thought i'd like to share though.   unless your system has less than 64m ram,  then swap not being active is probably not the cause of kde not starting correctly.
[05:27] <Jack3_> ive got 512mb
[05:27] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: yeah i figured so but im just waiting till more stuff is ready in it till i try out too much stuff
[05:27] <Jucato> Hatsuyuki: well it depends. for example KDE 3.5.4 was a relatively buggy release really
[05:27] <Jack3_> is there some error log i can check?
[05:28] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: well, part of helping in development is trying to report bugs/problems in the packages. they can't fix what they don't know :)
[05:28] <intelikey> yes Jack3_ in /var/log/    check xorg*   and messages
[05:28] <Hatsuyuki> the release that goes into the official kubuntu releases always seems fine so I've decided to stick with them til next kubuntu release (though I have no probs updating amarok/koffice ;) )
[05:28] <intelikey> Jack3_ also might look for any   kdm*  files.
[05:28] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: lol i need to boot into it first and i still have a small fear of entering long lists of terminal commands and hoping not to break an install so im looking at gettin down teh qt basics first
[05:29] <Jucato> "i still have a small fear of entering long lists of terminal commands" <--- first thing you have to overcome as an aspiring developer :D
[05:29] <Alpha_Cluster> Jucato: i know >.<
[05:30] <Alpha_Cluster> its not so much the fact its a lot of commands i just am scared of breaking stuff with kde4 libs lol
[05:30] <Jucato> oh don't worry. the kde4 packages on Kubuntu are installed in a completely different location from kde3
[05:30] <Alpha_Cluster> True
[05:30] <Jucato> so there's a low chance of any breakage
[05:30] <Jucato> of course, there's another "better" way if you want
[05:30] <intelikey> a command string is not long until it's over 1k chars
[05:31] <Jucato> compile KDE from source
[05:31] <Alpha_Cluster> lol yeah
[05:31] <Alpha_Cluster> i hope to get to that point
[05:31] <Jucato> well  he did say "long lists" not "long commands" :)
[05:31] <intelikey> oh. sorry.  was busy with someone and only caught the tail of that.
[05:32] <Alpha_Cluster> lol its the breaking i fear not the length so much
[05:32] <Alpha_Cluster> i mean ive even tried LFS
[05:32] <Jucato> backup backup backup :)
[05:32] <intelikey> rewind ?
[05:32] <Alpha_Cluster> lol yeah i got that one down now after my last fiasco >.<
[05:32] <Jucato> developers developers developers
[05:32] <intelikey> oh backup
[05:32] <Alpha_Cluster> ahh ballmer is here
[05:32] <Jucato> :) :) :)
[05:33] <Jucato> :P
[05:33] <Rictoo> What would be the alt+F4 equivalent in kubuntu?
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo: alt-f4
[05:34] <Alpha_Cluster> lol
[05:34] <Alpha_Cluster> wow i broke emacs i think
[05:34] <intelikey> Rictoo alt+f4  usually
[05:34] <Jucato> Rictoo: Alt+F4 and Ctrl+Q
[05:35] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+esc
[05:35] <Jucato> Alt+F4 technically closes the window, Ctrl+Q quits the app
[05:35] <Jucato> so Alt+F4 doesn't always quit the app
[05:35] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+esc  runs xkill ?
[05:35] <Rictoo> ok, thanks jucato
[05:35] <Jucato> intelikey: only on KDE :)
[05:35] <Jucato> (unless you set it in GNOME)
[05:36] <intelikey> "What would be the alt+F4 equivalent in kubuntu?"  << i assumed kde.
[05:36] <Jucato> Ctrl+Alt+Esc runs xkill and commits GUI-cide
[05:36] <Jucato> yeah :)
[05:36] <intelikey> guiside ?
[05:36] <intelikey> i like
[05:37] <Jack3_> ugh
[05:37] <Jack3_> im so confused
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> wouldn't that be ctrl-alt-bksp for the guicide
[05:37] <Jack3_> i cant understand these logs and they go on for pages
[05:37] <ubuntu> Halp!
[05:37] <ubuntu> My Grub Pretneds to boot
[05:37] <ubuntu> Pretends
[05:37] <ubuntu> Rictoo: Alt+F4
[05:37] <ubuntu> Hello?
[05:37] <ubuntu> Eeeek
[05:37] <Jucato> hitmanWilly: that would be X-cide :)
[05:37] <Rictoo> ...
[05:37] <intelikey> hitmanWilly that would be  xicide
[05:37] <Hatsuyuki> lol
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:37] <Rictoo> whu r u
[05:37] <Jucato> oh intelikey says it better though :P
[05:37] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu: ask your question in a full sentence
[05:38] <Jucato> Rictoo: he just lagged
[05:38] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: Will do
[05:38] <ubuntu>  I booted up my box and it told me that there was no hard drive
[05:38] <Rictoo> lol
[05:38] <ubuntu>  I pulled off all cables and reattached and the hard drive showed up
[05:38] <Rictoo> ubuntu, is the hdd ide?
[05:38] <Rictoo> oh
[05:38] <Hatsuyuki> thats weird, did you check it out in a livecd, ubuntu
[05:38] <ubuntu>  noow it get to Grub 1.5 and sits there
[05:38] <ubuntu> Hatsuyuki: Check my Nick :)
[05:39] <ubuntu> The Live cd wouldn't boot up either though :(
[05:39] <ubuntu> After going through a few CDs it worked
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> that may be a hardware problem...
[05:40] <ubuntu> Hi Hobbsee
[05:40] <ubuntu> hitmanWilly: Well that's why I'm asking for help
[05:40] <ubuntu> How do I diagnose a non booting non errored Grub?
[05:41] <Jack3_> is tehre such a thing as a repair instll
[05:41] <Hatsuyuki> broken hdd maybe?
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> !boot
[05:41] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu: look at boot options, that might have some options
[05:41] <goat> bedtime for BoBo.... thanks again to all who helped
[05:41] <linuxnobb> guys
[05:41] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: It doesn't get that far
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> really?
[05:41] <linuxnobb> when will be KDE4 become stable?
[05:41] <Hobbsee> hi ubuntu
[05:41] <Jack3_> is there sucha  thing as a repairrrrrrrrr instal?
[05:41] <linuxnobb> I can't wait
[05:42] <ubuntu_> this is not live.  this is memorex
[05:42] <Admiral_Chicago> linuxnobb: about octotober
[05:42] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: When it's done
[05:42] <Hatsuyuki> that question has already been answred, linuxnobb
[05:42] <ubuntu> Jack3_: It's called a Live CD
[05:42] <Jucato> linuxnobb: you will have to wait
[05:42] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: and you will have to
[05:42] <linuxnobb> ubuntu, that's not an answer
[05:42] <Jack3_> how do i repair from the livecd
[05:42] <ubuntu> Mind reader
[05:42] <linuxnobb> that sux
[05:42] <goat> linuxnobb   thats like asking when will ubuntu 8.0X be released or whens the next winblows going to be released
[05:42] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: Novemeber
[05:42] <Jucato> linuxnobb: target date is October 23, 2007. that's just tentative
[05:43] <linuxnobb> lol@winblows
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> linuxnobb: are we there yet? :)
[05:43] <ubuntu_> my grub hurts
[05:43] <Jucato> linuxnobb: but still means you will have to wait
[05:43] <Jack3_> helo?
[05:43] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: Yeah You know you have teh Grub Loading then grub 1.5 or Grub 2 loading then the grub menu?
[05:43] <ubuntu> Jack3_: helo
[05:43] <Jack3_> how can i perform a repair install?
[05:43] <Hatsuyuki> night night
[05:43] <ubuntu> Jack3_: What do YOU call a repair install?
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu: i'd suggest looking at something like SuperGrub and that might help
[05:44] <goat> the only thing I know is I get payed on the 15th and 1st of every month... and winblows helps me get those checks  =)
[05:44] <Jack3_> i dont know, something to revert settings to normal :\
[05:44] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: Is it mild mannered and will report to me?
[05:44] <Jack3_> i just want my ubuntu to work again, i didnt do anything to it
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> goat: great...but that belongs in #kubuntu-offtopic really
[05:44] <ubuntu> Jack3_: What's wrong now?
[05:44] <Jack3_> and it just dies on me::::(
[05:44] <Jack3_> everythign
[05:44] <Jack3_> kde wont start
[05:44] <Jack3_> everything else doesnt start
[05:44] <ubuntu> Jack3_: Is that all?
[05:44] <Jack3_> swap isnt working
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu: that was to you, i don't have much experience with grub...sorrp
[05:44] <goat> agreed admiral.. and with that I bid you all farewell
[05:44] <ubuntu> You can't get to a Command line
[05:44] <Jack3_> i can
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu: nope sorry
[05:45] <ubuntu> Jack3_: Swap fails?
[05:45] <ubuntu> May want to do a hard drive test
[05:45] <ubuntu_> Admiral_Chicago me ?
[05:45] <ubuntu_> Admiral_Chicago sorry  i missed it.   i'll scroll up
[05:46] <Jack3_> ive tried formatting the swap
[05:46] <ubuntu_> ah super-grub
[05:46] <ubuntu> Jack3_: How much Physical RAM do you have?
[05:46] <Jack3_> screw it, ill just backup everything and reformat
[05:46] <Jack3_> 5122
[05:46] <Jack3_> 512
[05:46] <ubuntu> Ow
[05:46] <ubuntu> Hmm
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> should still boot kde tho, even w/out swap
[05:47] <Jack3_> well i dunno
[05:47] <Jack3_> i just had the oddest problem
[05:47] <ubuntu> Jack3_: ok what else goes wrong?
[05:47] <Jack3_> i had 4 gb free
[05:47] <Jack3_> and then i installed wine from source and all
[05:48] <Jack3_> and i trid to install a program, and it said 0b was free?
[05:48] <Jack3_> so i checked konqueror, and it said 0b was free also, so i deleted 600mb of files
[05:48] <ubuntu> Why from source?
[05:48] <Jack3_> still 0b free
[05:48] <ubuntu_> empty the trash
[05:48] <Jack3_> yes i emptied the trash
[05:48] <Jack3_> anyways, i reboot
[05:48] <ubuntu> Jack3_: Ducks it
[05:48] <Rictoo`> Crap, no questions pelase, what's alt+F4 in linux, again?
[05:48] <ubuntu> You can get to a command line ?
[05:48] <Rictoo`> Crap, no questions pelase, what's alt+F4 in linux, again?
[05:48] <Jack3_> and then when i tried to login the screen went black and then went back tothelogin screen
[05:48] <ubuntu> Rictoo`: Don't double post
[05:49] <Rictoo`> ALT+F4 is for closing the window
[05:49] <Rictoo`> I want the shortcut to close the app
[05:49] <ubuntu> Rictoo`: Ctrl+Q
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo`: ctrl-q
[05:49] <Rictoo`> What's the shortcut to close an app in linux?
[05:49] <Jack3_> then i found that in root/.local/.Trash/files/ i had 4gb
[05:49] <Rictoo`> ok
[05:49] <Rictoo`> thanks
[05:49] <Jack3_> which WASNT there before
[05:49] <Jack3_> so i deleted that
[05:49] <Jack3_> so now when i start up the konsole will load , but still no kde
[05:49] <ubuntu_> some apps venella  Q   will do
[05:49] <Jack3_> i cant figure out for the life of me how this happened
[05:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Rictoo`: quit
[05:49] <Jack3_> ive compiled wine from src before too
[05:49] <ubuntu> Jack3_: type startx
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> like all major operating systems
[05:50] <ubuntu> Jack3_: You can install wine from the packages
[05:50] <ubuntu> !wine
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> it is exit a window
[05:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:50] <Jack3_> ubuntu, ive done, that, it starts yes
[05:50] <Jack3_> but not everyhting
[05:50] <Jack3_> like knetworkmanager doesnt work, etc, etc
[05:50] <Jack3_> its really broken,
[05:50] <ubuntu> What not everything?
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i'm away now. /me waves goodnight to Jucato!! :)
[05:50] <Jack3_> look obviously we arent getting anywhere
[05:50] <Jack3_> this problem cant be fixed
[05:50] <Jack3_> im just gonna reinstall
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> Jack3_: have you tried reconfiguring kde?
[05:50] <Jucato> night Admiral_Chicago!!
[05:51] <Jack3_> the problem is bigger than kde
[05:51] <ubuntu> Night!
[05:51] <Jack3_> bbl
[05:51] <ubuntu> ok
[05:51] <ubuntu> Jack3_: And learn ducks :)
[05:51] <ubuntu_> ubuntu are you on a live cd ?
[05:51] <Jack3_> ducks?
[05:51] <ubuntu> ubuntu_: Yes are you?
[05:51] <ubuntu_> no
[05:52] <Jack3_> whats ducks\
[05:52] <ubuntu> Jack3_: du -cks . | sort -rn | head -11
[05:52] <ubuntu> Shows you what's taking up your space
[05:52] <Jack3_> oh
[05:52] <ubuntu> you can alias all of that to the word ducks
[05:52] <ubuntu> just cd / then type ducks and you see where your space is gone :)
[05:53] <ubuntu> easy to hunt down
[05:53] <ubuntu> So about grub
[05:53] <ubuntu> ls
[05:54] <ubuntu_> i'm looking at a web page that says  Please click on the following button to continue:   but there is no button.
[05:54] <ubuntu_> ubuntu  yes about grub ?
[05:55] <ubuntu> Anyone know how to figure out what's causing it to stall?
[05:55] <ubuntu_> error message ?
[05:55] <ubuntu> No error message
[05:55] <ubuntu_> give more details then
[05:55] <ubuntu> It goes past grub stage one to Grub 1.5
[05:55] <ubuntu> Then says grub loading ...
[05:55] <ubuntu> but never reaches the grub menu
[05:56] <ubuntu_> corrupt stage file ?
[05:56] <ubuntu> Wouldn't that throw an error?
[05:56] <ubuntu_> tried reinstalling it ?
[05:56] <ubuntu> nope
[05:57] <ubuntu_> not if the file had a bad read and corrupted the ram.
[05:57] <ubuntu> o_0
[05:57] <ubuntu> huh?
[05:57] <jza873> hay im having a little problem for some reason konqueror wont display web images and i cant figure out hwo to fix it
[05:58] <jza873> if any one can help with this it would be greatly appreicated
[05:58] <ubuntu> Checked to see if show images was on?
[05:58] <ubuntu_> reading in a corrupt file into something as "simple minded" as grub can cause the base ram to have things that the tiny os can't handle.    grub is not the full kernel you know.
[05:58] <jza873> yea autoload images is on
[05:59] <ubuntu> I'm outta ideas then
[05:59] <ubuntu> ubuntu_: Is there some test I can do on it?
[06:00] <jza873> ok thanks
[06:00] <ubuntu_> ubuntu i'd just reinstall it and see if it clears it up.
[06:00] <ubuntu> jza873: ask in #kde as well
[06:00] <jza873> ok
[06:00] <bassgoon> should it be able to detect my linksys wireless card "out of the box"?
[06:00] <ubuntu_> i'll be right back as me
[06:01] <jza873> does any one know if it is possible to remove konqueror using apt-get remove then load it back on or would that just mess everything up
[06:01] <ubuntu> bassgoon: assuming that your card is supoprted
[06:01] <intelikey> ah better...
[06:01] <ubuntu> jza873: ... yes
[06:01] <ubuntu> jza873: remove konqueror then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:01] <ubuntu> intelikey: than?
[06:01] <bassgoon> where can I find a list?
[06:01] <intelikey> being so generic
[06:02] <ubuntu> !wifi
[06:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:02] <ubuntu> intelikey: heehee :)
[06:02] <jza873> ok ill try that thanks
[06:02] <ubuntu> intelikey: do I have to chroot the / ?
[06:03] <intelikey> no  jsut add the root dir.   -r /mountpoint    i think.
[06:03] <linuxnobb> guys are you sure Alternate CD is LiveCD? the ubuntu says its text based
[06:03] <bassgoon> ubuntu, so if its not on the list...I'm hosed?
[06:03] <linuxnobb> it's gotta be text base
[06:03] <intelikey> maybe man    knows.
[06:04] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: It's not the live cd
[06:04] <ubuntu> it's the alternate cd
[06:04] <ubuntu> bassgoon: Did you read the page i just sent you ?
[06:04] <ubuntu> Well
[06:04] <ubuntu> dsplayed
[06:04] <ubuntu> Didn't actually send it to you
[06:05] <intelikey> ubuntu    sudo grub-install --root-directory=<mountpoint> <device>
[06:05] <ubuntu> hi Mez
[06:05] <mo0osah> how do you make the darn clock 12 hour format
[06:05] <bassgoon> ubuntu, eer I didn't see my card listed
[06:05] <linuxnobb> ubuntu, are you for real? Alternade CD kubuntu is text-based only??!!
[06:05] <ubuntu> bassgoon: ok they have a wifi Howto on the same page
[06:05] <ubuntu>  follow the steps there
[06:05] <ubuntu>  it will help you if your card isn't listed there
[06:05] <intelikey> mo0osah right click it.  and configure lang&whatever
[06:06] <bassgoon> ah, thanks ubuntu
[06:06] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: Yes that's kinda the point
[06:06] <mo0osah> intelikey, i'm there but cant find how to change the format
[06:06] <linuxnobb> OMFG!!!
[06:06] <linuxnobb> i gotta re-download again??!!
[06:06] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: What are you doing with it?
[06:06] <linuxnobb> so LiveCD doesn't support LVM??!!
[06:06] <linuxnobb> I need LVM
[06:07] <linuxnobb> and LiveCD
[06:07] <intelikey> mo0osah it's there someplace.   i've done it.   but don't have kde installed now so can't track it down for you
[06:07] <ubuntu> Oh yeah then use the laternate
[06:07] <linuxnobb> together
[06:07] <ubuntu> it's much easier with that
[06:07] <linuxnobb> but it's not LiveCD
[06:07] <linuxnobb> that's retarded, what does it take to add LVM to liveCD?
[06:07] <ubuntu> mo0osah: try the Date Time format then -> Time and dates -> Date format
[06:07] <ubuntu> linuxnobb: space
[06:08] <ubuntu> intelikey:   sudo grub-install --root-directory=grub /dev/hdb1
[06:08] <ubuntu> that looks right
[06:08] <intelikey> the phrase "live CD"  is so decpetive.    all self installing os's on cd are live cd's    but somehow the term 'live CD' seems to only be used for those with autostarting gui
[06:08] <intelikey> ubuntu no
[06:09] <ubuntu>  where =grub is the folder I mounted to?
[06:09] <intelikey> ubuntu did you mount the installed system on  /grub ?
[06:09] <intelikey> if so then yes.
[06:09] <ubuntu> not /grub ~/grub
[06:09] <intelikey> ok.
[06:09] <intelikey> then yes.
[06:09] <ubuntu> Here goes
[06:09] <intelikey> are you sure /dev/hdb1 is correct ?
[06:10] <intelikey> maybe scsi emulation.    sdb1 ?
[06:10] <ubuntu> I have no /dev/sdanything
[06:10] <ubuntu> And it failed
[06:10] <intelikey> ok then it's not scsi emulation
[06:10] <ubuntu> Running "install --stage2=grub/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 (hd1,0) (hd1,0)1+20 p (hd1,0)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed
[06:11] <ubuntu> Error 6: Mismatched or corrupt version of stage1/stage2
[06:11] <intelikey> there you have it.   it is a corrupt   stage file.
[06:11] <ubuntu> My / is XFS
[06:11] <ubuntu> Wonder if that's an issue ...
[06:12] <intelikey> grub and xfs     hmmmm
[06:12] <ubuntu> intelikey: Sooo blow it away and recreate?
[06:12] <intelikey> or add a small boot partition ?
[06:12] <ubuntu> Now?
[06:13] <ses1959_> two questions on thunderbird
[06:13] <ubuntu> I'll do it when KDE4 ships
[06:13] <ses1959_> i would like to add my comments to the top of a reply not at the bottom
[06:13] <intelikey> i'm not sure if it's corrupt because of some  grub/xfs bug   or just a bad file.    wont hurt to rm the ~/grub/boot/grub/stage* files and see what happens.
[06:14] <ses1959_> i have a old thunderbird file that i would like to add to my new account but could not import it
[06:14] <ubuntu> can't I just mv them?
[06:14] <intelikey> sure  :)
[06:14] <ubuntu> They get recreated on the fly ?
[06:14] <ubuntu> or rerun the install ?
[06:14] <intelikey> yes
[06:14] <intelikey> rerun
[06:14] <ubuntu> ok
[06:15] <voidmage> how do i purge the lyrics cache in amarok?'
[06:15] <intelikey> right click ?
[06:16] <intelikey> idk.  i looked at amarok one time.
[06:16] <ubuntu> threw a warnign
[06:16] <intelikey> no errors ?
[06:16] <ubuntu> think I'll save this on the hard drive
[06:16] <ubuntu> Installation finished. No error reported.
[06:16] <intelikey> then it "should" work.
[06:17] <ubuntu> I'm saving the error messages on the drive so I can read them later
[06:17] <intelikey> warning about the number of sectors and some bios issue   that's normal
[06:18] <intelikey> it was writen in the 80's and never moved out of the code    :)
[06:18] <ubuntu> So much for open source :-)
[06:18] <ubuntu> Lets see if this works
[06:19] <jza873_> nope didnt work
[06:19] <jza873_> and on # kde no one wants to talk
[06:19] <intelikey> jza873_ is it beryl ?
[06:20] <jza873_> i have beryl but its not running it started happeneing after i installed this firewall but i removed it
[06:20] <jza873_> im going to remove beryl now because that thing sucks
[06:20] <jza873_> see if that helps
[06:21] <mjponce> #kde ?
[06:21] <jza873_> nope it wasnt beryl
[06:21] <jza873_> yea no one talks on that
[06:22] <intelikey> jza873_ just a note.  you can reset all user prefs. in kde  by removing ~/.kde then logging in.
[06:22] <djbailey> Hey everyone can anyone tell me where the sound directory is
[06:22] <djbailey> im looking to reboot the service and just need the dir
[06:22] <rich__> would anyone message me on how to install beryl? im new to linux, beginner if you will.
[06:22] <intelikey> :)
[06:22] <jza873_> sudo apt-get install beryl
[06:23] <intelikey> djbailey what sound directory ?
[06:23] <intelikey> djbailey what are you looking for ?
[06:23] <rich__> dont i feel stupid.
[06:24] <rich__> Thaks jza874_
[06:24] <jza873_> yea
[06:24] <djbailey> i just want like /etc/sound. whatever so i can restart it
[06:24] <rich__> haha
[06:24] <intelikey> :)
[06:24] <jza873_> its not that cool tho beryl is kind of cool for 3 mins then it just lame
[06:24] <rich__> heres one for your brains..
[06:24] <rich__> what would stupid feel like?
[06:25] <intelikey> djbailey   /etc/init.d/  ?
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Whoot
[06:25] <crimsun> djbailey: we don't have one like that.  What do you really want to do?  Unload and reload the modules?  Restore the default mixer levels?  Both?
[06:25] <rich__> once the install is done
[06:25] <jza873_> ok this all happened when i installed " fiaif "
[06:25] <rich__> what do you do
[06:25] <rich__> just restart?
[06:25] <DaSkreech> And once again * crashes as soon as kde loads
[06:26] <djbailey> i had sound i lost power to my laptop and now my sound does not work
[06:26] <intelikey> jza873_ try firestarter
[06:26] <crimsun> djbailey: ok, so pastebin the output from ``asoundconf list && amixer''
[06:26] <crimsun> djbailey: then tell us the URL
[06:27] <jza873_> yea i got firestarter now
[06:27] <rich__> should i take that as a yes? after the install of beryl. just restart
[06:27] <rich__> ?
[06:27] <intelikey> jza873_ running it might let you undo what ever mess you have made of iptables
[06:27] <djbailey> I got it thanks for the Crimsum
[06:27] <djbailey> i mean Crimsun
[06:27] <jza873_> i removed fiaif but no good it still wont display images its not even like broken links just dont show up
[06:28] <djbailey> i clicked somthing in the sound link and it worked.
[06:28] <jza873_> ok so ill reinstall it and run it and see what happens
[06:28] <intelikey> rich__ i've never messed with beryl
[06:29] <mjponce> #kubuntu-es
[06:29] <rich__> but like.. im confused.. its installed now (i think)
[06:29] <rich__> now what?
[06:29] <rich__> haha
[06:30] <intelikey> !beryl
[06:30] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:30] <DaSkreech> hi crimsun
[06:30] <crimsun> hi.
[06:30] <intelikey> see is there any help there   ^
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:30] <jza873_> nah didnt work is ther a way to reset the iptables
[06:30] <DaSkreech> wonder if i should relaunch dbus
[06:31] <bassgoon> anyone know a decent cheap pcmcia wireless card that works easily with linux? all I need is connection, no wep or wpa
[06:31] <jza873_> i even tried to load konqueror through ion3 and still no good
[06:32] <intelikey> jza873_ yeah.     iptables -F    ???  not sure that you wont need to add an 'allow all'   after flushing 'all' though...
[06:33] <intelikey> better first to list
[06:33] <intelikey> see what ya go
[06:33] <intelikey> got
[06:33] <intelikey> gotit
[06:34] <intelikey> my english tobe
[06:34] <intelikey> :)
[06:35] <kalorin`> intelikey: remember to use small bites, else you'll choke
[06:35] <jza873_> nope i dont think its the iptables something bust be blocking it
[06:36] <jza873_> must*
[06:40] <jza873_> any other ideas
[06:41] <Dave-Kubuntu> Heres a ATI Permissions problem i'm having, think you can help? -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21100/
[06:41] <intelikey> reset kde ?       rm -r ~/.kde
[06:42] <jza873_> i thought you show never remove the ~/.kde directory
[06:43] <jza873_> if i did that wont it mess up all my apps
[06:44] <intelikey> reset them to defaults...
[06:44] <DaSkreech> intelikey: You don't like mv do you ?
[06:44] <intelikey> DaSkreech i find it deceptive.
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Why?
[06:45] <jza873_> ill try it
[06:45] <intelikey> if you mv ~/.kde    then while kde is running try to move it back it will ignore most of the stuff.  so why not just rm it to start with.
[06:46] <jza873_> ok i removed it
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Hmm?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> why would you do it IN kde?
[06:46] <intelikey> jza873_ ctrl+alt+backspace   and hope
[06:46] <jza873_> yea i just thought about that just now
[06:46] <jza873_> i have liek 10 desktop managers so hopefully i didnt just mess everything up
[06:46] <jza873_> brb
[06:47] <intelikey> you didn't
[06:48] <Dave-Kubuntu> Heres a ATI Permissions problem i'm having, think you can help? -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21100/
[06:49] <DaSkreech> anyone has planetkde on RSS ?
[06:49] <jza873> it worked
[06:49] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:49] <jza873> now back to reconfigureing everything
[06:49] <jza873> thanks soo mcuh
[06:49] <intelikey> np
[06:49] <jza873> much*
[06:49] <Jucato> DaSkreech: me
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Jucato: can You do a search for Conspiracy ?
[06:50] <DaSkreech>  who made ap ost last week about that ?
[06:50] <Jucato> thomas zander
[06:50] <kalorin`> Dave-Kubuntu: so it doesn't work for a while then starts to work?
[06:50] <kalorin`> that's kind of odd
[06:51] <Dave-Kubuntu> No it starts automaticly but it's slow
[06:51] <DaSkreech> thanks
[06:53] <Dave-Kubuntu> kalorin`: it's not just that too all 3d things are slow and give errors
[06:54] <kalorin`> Dave-Kubuntu: hrms...
[06:54] <kalorin`> Dave-Kubuntu: join #kalorin
[06:57] <jza873> thanks everyone im going to bed back to teh salt mines at embarq
[06:57] <jza873> tomorrow
[06:57] <jza873> later and thanks again
[06:57] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Tomorrow
[06:59] <xlinux_> Allright guys.. ive got a problem to fix
[06:59] <xlinux_> this ones been kicking my arse
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Good to know
[07:02] <kalorin`> xlinux_: you'd have to sign a wavier before I'll offer up my own ass to get kicked by said problem
[07:02] <kalorin`> cause I'll want to be able to recover damages
[07:02] <kalorin`> :)
[07:02] <xlinux_> huh?
[07:03] <red_> it seems that bash auto-complete is not enabled) in my konsole. Where do I need to enable this?
[07:03] <crimsun> red_: ~/.bashrc
[07:03] <Jucato> DaSkreech: why o why?
[07:04] <xlinux_> freezing due to 9755 nvidia driver.. anyone have ideas?
[07:04] <intelikey> ooops.    i just installed grub on the windows partition not the linux partition...    will that work ?
[07:04] <DaSkreech> I was on vacation last week so I left Akregator on to get all the blogs and news goodness
[07:04] <DaSkreech> So of course the machine was turned off a day after I left
[07:04] <Jucato> aw....
[07:05] <DaSkreech> And both planetkde and planetmozilla don't keep more than like a day of back blogs
[07:05] <red_> crimsun: and what's the setting that I have to enable?
[07:05] <Jucato> DaSkreech: oh... :(
[07:05] <intelikey> ok i'll go test it and see if it works...
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Hey!
[07:06] <DaSkreech> anyone kompiled kamion?
[07:07] <crimsun> red_: scroll to the bottom and read the comment.
[07:09] <Tired_> what's a decent onscreen analog clock I can apt-get in a hurry?
[07:09] <Tired_> decent meaning has a second hand
[07:10] <Tired_> google just gives me tray clock packages
[07:11] <Tired_> nvm, found one, sorta
[07:11] <DaSkreech> Which is it ?
[07:11] <Jucato> the clock in the kicker has an analog clock
[07:11] <Tired_> there's a kde screensaver
[07:12] <Jucato> ah that sort of clock?
[07:12] <Tired_> yeah
[07:12] <Jucato> there's also some superkaramba themes I think. not sure about the seconds hand though
[07:12] <Tired_> this will work for me right now
[07:12] <Tired_> stopwatch is broken
[07:12] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[07:15] <xlinux_> which log? I would assume the xorg log
[07:15] <xlinux_> the flashes would make me think xorg, but the fact that the system completely freezes makes me think system
[07:23] <xlinux_> anyone know anything about issues with video cards
[07:28] <dsmith_> anyone know how to turn rarok on at a certain time in the AM?
[07:28] <dsmith_> amarok
[07:28] <kalorin`> dsmith, get primitive on it, crontab ;)
[07:29] <dsmith_> never had to do one
[07:29] <dsmith_> lol
[07:29] <dsmith_> ok
[07:29] <kalorin`> it's cake
[07:29] <kalorin`> crontab -e
 <hour> <day> <month> <dayofweek> <command>
[07:29] <kalorin`> so
[07:29] <kalorin`> 30 01 * * * bash TimeForBed.sh
[07:29] <kalorin`> for instance
[07:30] <kalorin`> every day, of every month, every day of the week at 1:30am go to bed
[07:30] <kalorin`> :)
[07:30] <dsmith_> hmmm
[07:30] <kalorin`> welp
[07:30] <kalorin`> my system is going to 7.04 now
[07:30] <kalorin`> this ought to be a ton of fun
[07:31] <dsmith_> heh
[07:31] <dsmith_> i am holding off
[07:31] <kalorin`> <--- clicked next
[07:31] <dsmith_> i just did a dual boot other day
[07:31] <belred> irc.freenode.net
[07:31] <kalorin`> I was too but found out my grades for the quarter so I have a week to put the box back together if it doesn't go so well
[07:31] <dsmith_> resized my win part down to 1gb of free space
[07:31] <kalorin`> I need to redo my winXP vmware instance down from 50gb to something more reasonable
[07:32] <kalorin`> autoexpand it or something
[07:33] <dsmith_> sudo required?
[07:34] <kalorin`> shouldn't be
[07:34] <kalorin`> depends if you let users on your system use cron
[07:34] <dsmith_> hmmmm
[07:34] <dsmith_> kcron
[07:34] <dsmith_> whats this
[07:34] <kalorin`> not sure
[07:34] <kalorin`> ok to bed with me
[07:34] <dsmith_> cyas
[07:35] <kalorin`> system wants me to close all applications so things don't blow up on the upgrade
[07:35] <dsmith_> heh
[07:35] <dsmith_> BOOM
[07:35] <kalorin`> can't end well
[07:35] <dsmith_> breakage
[07:35] <kalorin`> ah well
[07:35] <kalorin`> heh
[07:35] <kalorin`> we'll see
[07:36] <kalorin`> !ati
[07:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:36] <kalorin`> might as well get the directions now just in case
[07:42] <Rictoo> This might sound odd, but I'm gonna leave my computer on all night, and I don't wanna waste cpu power
[07:42] <Rictoo> is there anything big and useful I can download?
[07:42] <Rictoo> (No, I don't want Folding@Home :P)
[07:43] <kalorin`> set a hibernate in the bios?
[07:43] <Rictoo> But i want my computer on
[07:43] <Rictoo> +p
[07:43] <kalorin`> with wake on lan and mouse or something
[07:43] <kalorin`> it's on then
[07:43] <kalorin`> it's just not doing anything
[07:43] <Rictoo> but I wanna use cpu :D
[07:43] <kalorin`> sorry nothing I cna think of
[07:43] <Rictoo> :/
[07:47] <dettoaltrimenti> is there any way I can check what device my keyboard is in /dev/input?
[07:48] <esunder> i installed the php command line interpreter, what do i need to connect to a mysql database, when i try to i get "Call to undefined function mysql_connect()"
[07:48] <esunder> i am assuming i need another package but im not sure which one, anyone know?
[07:50] <Vuen> hey guys, when i burn a data dvd with k3b, it doesn't mount automatically. i have to mount it manually in a terminal.
[07:50] <Vuen> anyone know what's wrong?
[07:51] <Vuen> it also works perfectly fine in windows
[07:51] <Vuen> but even after restarting the computer, if i put in a data dvd i burned into the cdrom drive while kubuntu is running, nothing happens
[07:55] <bassgoon> I seem to recall knoppix having a wizard to set the desktop behavior to ms windows style, does kubuntu have that?
[07:57] <nceterval> I just upgraded to Feisty and am having trouble mounting an encrypted partition during the boot process.  When I was using Edgy, this was accomplished with cryptsetup create name /dev/hffa7.  Now it appears that there is no such device.  How can I track down the appropriate device?
[07:58] <Ichilegend> hello bassgoon, Fedoora had that wizard too, but it is not in Kubuntu, you have to set the settings else ways
[07:58] <bassgoon> ack...
[07:59] <Ichilegend> Yeah, I actually got used to it since i Double click my title bar in a window to maximize/restore a window
[08:07] <nceterval> Hmm, if anyone's interested, I think hda got renamed to sda in the upgrade.
[08:07] <nceterval> Odd
[08:08] <Ichilegend> Has anyone here used Jinzora?  I just installed it as my second LAMP application.
[08:10] <ranjan> looking for help with selecting between cowan a2 mp3 player and wolverine esp mp3 player, any inputs?
[08:11] <Ichilegend> ranjan, are you asking or offering?
[08:11] <ranjan> asking
[08:11] <ranjan> i have read about a lot and narrowed down to those 2, but still deciding
[08:11] <ranjan> i need help
[08:13] <Ichilegend> hmmm, I haven't used those before... let me give a quick google to see what they are...
[08:14] <ranjan> thanks Ichilegend
[08:14] <ranjan> appreciate the effort
[08:15] <Ichilegend> wow, those are some niiiice players
[08:16] <ranjan> so what do u think?
[08:16] <Ichilegend> The cowan one is vey sexy looking... are they priced similar?
[08:16] <ranjan> wolverine is more picey
[08:17] <ranjan> but wolverine also has a model called MVP which is available in only one color which is horrid that is equal in price to cowan
[08:19] <Ichilegend> hmmm, I like the cowan (based on my 3minute overview!)
[08:20] <Ichilegend> It may have a smaller hard drive, but it looks like they thoght up the extras
[08:20] <ranjan> is that based on looks or features?
[08:21] <Ichilegend> well the looks are better, but I (personally mind you) would use the Divix Xvid features plus sub title file integration
[08:21] <Ichilegend> The size seems more compact
[08:21] <Ichilegend> etc.
[08:22] <Ichilegend> The Wolverine looks more universal, it has a ton of memory card inputs and you can get it up to 160GB
[08:22] <ranjan> exactly my thoughts, but i am tempted by the hdisk size and loose any external storage device
[08:22] <Ichilegend> actually both would be a liitle more than I would use, they both put my iPod to shame
[08:23] <ranjan> a 130 GB external usn hdd would compensate wolverines cost
[08:23] <Skrot-> Hi, I've downloaded the source of kdeutils using "apt-get source kdeutils" and applied a few patches to it, now how can I make it a .deb package?
[08:23] <ranjan> + 30 GB for music would be great
[08:24] <Ichilegend> but if you are a movie buff or have a s&*t ton of mp3's the Wolverine would be the obvious choice.  Just read your 130 gb comment ...bery tru
[08:24] <Ichilegend> very true
[08:25] <ranjan> thanks Ichilegend
[08:25] <ranjan> i am still undecided
[08:25] <ranjan> lol
[08:25] <hjacob> How would I downgrade a package using fx aptitude?
[08:25] <ranjan> both have great reviews on amazon! so i know both will be good players
[08:25] <Ichilegend> They are both pretty cool looking.  Either would be good to have.  I am cheap though and the cheaper one looks cooler ;)  my 3 minute-no-money-exchanged-vote would go to cowan.
[08:25] <fulat2k> any idea if ubuntustudio theme/icons can be  used in kubuntu?
[08:26] <ranjan> fulat2k: yes just add their repository
[08:26] <ranjan> update
[08:26] <ranjan> and download the artwork meta package
[08:26] <ranjan> oops only in ubunru not in kubuntu
[08:27] <fulat2k> ranjan: that's what i'm afraid of :(
[08:27] <fulat2k> oh well.
[08:28] <ranjan> fulat2k: make one yourself...
[08:28] <fulat2k> time to readup..::P
[08:29] <ranjan> fulat2k: not too hard... just downlaod some existing themes from kde-look and see how its done
[08:30] <Ichilegend> All of the files are svg ones right? You could make your own theme if it can't be found elsewhere rithgt?
[08:33] <ranjan> Porn.com Domain Sold for $9 Million!
[08:33] <insmod> ranjan: nice
[08:33] <Ichilegend> lol and on the day Jerry faldwell died?  sad
[08:35] <ranjan> lol
[08:35] <ranjan> Ichilegend: cowan also has a model called D2, with touch screen control, no buttons for controls, is that a good option?
[08:36] <Ichilegend> So I just set up Jinzora today on LAMP and it is awesome.  A couple small probs, but basically it is like having your own shoutcast network.
[08:36] <Ichilegend> @ranjan, Touchsreen can be good
[08:37] <Ichilegend> I dunno, I just got a Garmin GPS system for my car that is completely touch screen and it is awesome, i guees it depends on the interface
[08:38] <ranjan> i agree, if done well it can be great
[08:38] <ranjan> can be equally bad if not well thought out
[08:38] <Ichilegend> Ipod = 1 button and a wheel for every function.  If touch is the only interface and it is done right... perfect!
[08:39] <ranjan> Ichilegend: my wife has a 30 gb video ipod
[08:39] <mo0osah> any simple way to minimize firefox and thunderbird to tray?
[08:39] <ranjan> the only thing i hate about it is DRM
[08:40] <ranjan> mo0osah: by pressing the minimize button
[08:40] <mo0osah> to tray???
[08:40] <ranjan> to tray?
[08:40] <Ichilegend> @mo0osah, adding the Desktop Access applet to the task bar
[08:40] <ranjan> oh
[08:41] <Ichilegend> Right click the panel (taskbar) add applet and add show desktop
[08:41] <roller> hello
[08:42] <Ichilegend> click the show desktop icon to minimize all
[08:42] <Ichilegend> Hello
[08:42] <roller> can you help me- music playing but i cant hear it
[08:42] <Ichilegend> ok
[08:42] <Ichilegend> Can you give more info?
[08:43] <roller> aaa comp couldt configure sound card
[08:43] <ranjan> whats the sound card?
[08:43] <roller> how i cant see my sound card??
[08:44] <crimsun> roller: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.
[08:47] <Ichilegend> cat /proc/asound/cards        <= This command may suggest the card, but not if it goes unidentified
[08:49] <roller>  0 [SB             ] : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
[08:49] <dhakatel> hi i just install kubuntu i want to install berly desktop
[08:49] <roller>                       HDA ATI SB at 0xd0400000 irq 19
[08:49] <dhakatel> or and xgl
[08:49] <roller> this is sound card
[08:49] <Jucato> !beryl | dhakatel
[08:49] <dhakatel> what can i do now
[08:49] <ubotu> dhakatel: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:49] <richard_> how do I install ati drivers ?
[08:49] <richard_> !ati
[08:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:50] <Ichilegend> wow, bots are cool
[08:51] <Ichilegend> dhakatel you have what you need or you need human help?
[08:51] <richard_> I cant install my ati drivers
[08:51] <richard_> the instructions are for ubuntu :(
[08:52] <Ichilegend> richard the Kubuntu installation would be the same for the most part
[08:52] <xlinux_> holy crap.. anyone know anything about Nvidia drivers? I just learned some stuff I didnt know
[08:52] <radioaktivstorm> hello, i have a question: why do some windows insist on becoming several hundred pixels too large? and is there a way to fix this?
[08:53] <Ichilegend> explain .... um ... all of you!
[08:53] <dromer> hi all, I seem to need to recompile mpd for AAC/M4A support,  can someone help me with this?
[08:53] <xlinux_> anyone even interested?
[08:53] <Ichilegend> what is the problem?
[08:54] <dhakatel> is there any pango enable firefox binary for kubuntu
[08:54] <dhakatel> ?
[08:55] <xlinux_> i dont really have a problem.. I just learned something that *may* have been my problem
[08:55] <Ichilegend> do share
[08:56] <xlinux_> I constantly checked on the Nvidia website for a driver higher than 9755, thinking that Nvidia would change the driver version every time they released an update
[08:56] <xlinux_> but they OONT
[08:56] <Ichilegend> dhakatel, i dunno, It was standard in Fedora, but i haven't been paying attention to the kubuntu releases
[08:56] <xlinux_> DONT*
[08:56] <xlinux_> They had the release date on the website listed as may 7 2007
[08:57] <xlinux_> BUT, the original driver I downloaded that was 9755, I downloaded in early march
[08:57] <xlinux_> I never realized they released drivers of the same version multiple times with multiple revisions
[08:58] <Ichilegend> xlinux are you getting your nvidia drivers from a repository through regular upgrades or comkpiling it yourself with each new kernel?
[08:59] <xlinux_> compiling it myself.. the repos never worked for me
[08:59] <xlinux_> As soon as I d/led the latest release of v. 9755 nvidia driver, my FPS went from 4900 to 5500!!!!
[09:00] <xlinux_> Hopefully, this also fixed my flashing freezing problem...
[09:00] <Ichilegend> interesting, I guess the linux source stays the same version.  Since they try to unify their drivers, perhaps the updates are mostly for Windows?
[09:00] <xlinux_> *hopefully*
[09:01] <xlinux_> im guessing..
[09:01] <Ichilegend> weird.  Nice to know though
[09:01] <xlinux_> whats weird is in there archives, they have a driver version 9762 that was released may 2nd, but the 9755 latest release is may 7th!!!
[09:02] <Ichilegend> Rollback i guess.  they must have f'd something upp
[09:02] <xlinux_> Haha, this whole time, I thought they simply hadnt released a new driver.. and they did, just under the same version with a different date
[09:03] <xlinux_> yeah, thats what I was thinking
[09:03] <xlinux_> they just used the 9755 and incorporated the features from the 9762
[09:04] <Ichilegend> Release, get feedback..react is the entire quick to market coding mantra these days.
[09:05] <xlinux_> If this actially fixes my flashing/freezing, which I really doubt it would be so easy, than I will be VERY happy with kubuntu. I was actually ready to try Sabayon because of this freezing crap
[09:05] <xlinux_> whats up with your Ati card?
[09:06] <Ichilegend> atually I had Kubuntu issues too, my ultimate answer was to install ubuntu then apt-get kubuntu-desktop when all was working.
[09:07] <roller> why i cant tallk with you but i cant go to web adress
[09:08] <roller> browser said Could not connect to host ya.ru.
[09:08] <xlinux_> the funny thing is, Kubuntu flashed and froze FAR LESS than Ubuntu
[09:10] <xlinux_> I find it odd my FPS drops 2k when I use Beryl, but maybe thats just what beryl uses to run?
[09:11] <Ichilegend> I like the Ubuntu stability, but I prefer KDE, the way to go for my mone is Ubuntu+kubuntu-desktop
[09:12] <Ichilegend> Plus beryl is cool for a month or so, but the only real feature i still use is the cube.  Big productivity enhancer
[09:18] <dromer> can someony help me recompile mpd for m4a support?
[09:23] <ardchoille> Ichilegend: I like ubuntu too, but my 11 kubuntu machines haven't had a single problem and all are stable :)
[09:33] <xlinux_> took a smoke break
[09:34] <xlinux_> yeah, I agree with you about beryl.. I only use the cube and the magic lamp minimize- this helps me sort out where im minimizing to
[09:34] <nordseebaer> hi
[09:34] <xlinux_> i multitask like a mother
[09:34] <xlinux_> nordseebaer- hey
[09:34] <nordseebaer> any german here who can help me?
[09:35] <xlinux_> i cant help you there...
[09:35] <_4strO> de | nordseebaer or try in english ;)
[09:35] <_4strO> !de | nordseebaer or try in english ;)
[09:35] <ubotu> nordseebaer or try in english ;): Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:35] <nordseebaer> ok ty :) if i dont find anyone i'll come back and try in english ;)
[09:35] <_4strO> ^^
[09:40] <_4strO> yop yop
[10:07] <jan__> Good morning. Can I ask for some help with K3b?
[10:07] <jan__> Is it possible to rip audio CD's to MP3 format?
[10:08] <Jucato> !cdrip | jan__
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <Jucato> er sorry
[10:08] <Jucato> !ripping | jan__
[10:08] <ubotu> jan__: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[10:08] <Jucato> you don't even need to use k3b, but yes you can
[10:08] <Jucato> just install LAME
[10:09] <jan__> I know there are other tools. I am writing a book for newbies at the moment. I installed Lame and the libk3b2.mp3 dependencies
[10:09] <jan__> Yet, it only shows Ogg and WAV as options.
[10:10] <Jucato> libk3b2-mp3 is only used for burning MP3's to Audio CD's
[10:10] <jan__> So it doesn't support the other way around.
[10:11] <Jucato> hm. it should, if you have lame installed. or maybe liblame? not really sure. Haven't tried it myself
[10:13] <_4strO> Jucato: i do not agree with you, libk3b2-mp3 is even use to RIP CD's tu mp3
[10:13] <_4strO> to*
[10:13] <Jucato> !info libk3b2-mp3
[10:13] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB
[10:14] <jan__> _4strO: that leaves the question: why doesn't the MP3 option show in K3b when I try to rip a cd?
[10:14] <ardchoille> !info lame
[10:14] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[10:15] <_4strO> jan__: i will verify on my laptop
[10:15] <jan__> Sound Juicer works fine. Acidrip as well (for video that is)
[10:15] <jan__> _4strO: thanks
[10:15] <Jucato> how about kaudiocreator?
[10:16] <jan__> Jucato: haven't tried that one yet. One moment.
[10:16] <Jucato> and the audiocd:/ kioslave? hm.. how about installing "liblame0"? not really sure
[10:17] <_4strO> ha yes, i cant encode in mp3 with k3b
[10:17] <_4strO> thought so ...
[10:17] <ardchoille> k3b rocks!
[10:17] <_4strO> sure
[10:17] <jan__> Jucato: liblame0 is installed
[10:17] <Jucato> hm...
[10:18] <jan__> Jucato: kaudiocreator has MP3 as an option
[10:18] <Jucato> have you tried restarting k3b?
[10:19] <jan__> Jucato: yep, a few times already
[10:19] <Jucato> does audiocd:/ also have an MP3 folder?
[10:20] <jan__> Jucato: yes, it does
[10:20] <Jucato> it's not empty?
[10:20] <Jucato> if so, it might be a K3b problem...
[10:20] <jan__> I see files, so you might be right then
[10:21] <jan__> Blast, there goes a chapter in the book
[10:23] <jan__> It is to risky to describe this option for newbies if it doesn't work out of the box. Too bad, but thanks for helping out.
[10:23] <jan__> I will add the audiocd:/ option to the chapter instead.
[10:24] <Jucato> or kaudiocreator, if you want a specialized app for it
[10:26] <jan__> Jucato: that one too, as an alternative to Sound Juicer
[10:26] <jan__> Okay, back to writing it is. See you all and thank you
[10:45] <jordo23> Why whenever I use ark to extract a .tar.gz file I get an error that says the extraction operation failed....
[10:45] <TheInfinity> ark sometimes strange errors ...
[10:45] <TheInfinity> *has
[10:45] <TheInfinity> did you try it by using console?
[10:46] <jordo23> TheInfinity: no....will try......which options would ark emulate?
[10:47] <jordo23> by default...
[10:47] <TheInfinity> hmm ... something like tar -xf yourarchivename.tar
[10:47] <TheInfinity> thats unextracting ... perhaps there you will get a better descr ...
[10:48] <jordo23> TheInfinity: Would the fact it's final extension is .gz matter?
[10:49] <premier_> Hello, I'm having trouble with png support.  Earlier today someone told me to reinstall qt... I'm hoping for a better answer
[10:49] <premier_> Its not showing pngs in konqueror, and nothing seems to display them correctly, such as gwenview... krita doesn't know how to use them, but...
[10:50] <premier_> konqueror will show them if they are part of a webpage.  Also, firefox will show them without any trouble
[10:51] <TheInfinity> then its a tar.gz ... so ypou have to use tar -cvzf file.tar.gz
[10:52] <TheInfinity> args sorry wrong
[10:52] <TheInfinity> tar xvzf file.tar.gz is should be
[10:54] <jordo23> TheInfinity: Is there a better GUI archive program?
[10:54] <TheInfinity> jordo23: good question ... i never found one ... sometimes i miss winrar unde rlinux
[10:55] <jordo23> TheInfinity: lol
[10:55] <TheInfinity> i like rar because its extreme efficent ;)
[10:59] <bahr> TheInfinity: You can get rar and unrar for linux?
[10:59] <TheInfinity> yes but not rar with such a lot options ;)
[11:00] <bahr> TheInfinity: What options are you looking for?
[11:00] <TheInfinity> for example the reconstruction of damaged archives is with rar really good
[11:01] <bahr> TheInfinity: Have you seen the man page for rar? There are options for reconstruction
[11:02] <TheInfinity> or - on the other hand - compression rate ... also really nice :)
[11:04] <bahr> TheInfinity: Ok I don't know about compression rate, but I know there are many options with rar which you can configure
[11:06] <kraut> moin
[11:11] <annee> Heeey
[11:13] <david2> What's the nest way to make a full backup an exact mirror of a linux install?
[11:16] <bahr> david2: I use acronis, but that's not open-source but it works very well for my needs
[11:17] <david2> I saw something about rsync
[11:17] <david2> but I always f up using that
[11:23] <bahr> david2: well you need to update your grub.conf if you want the option to press F11 at boottime to restore
[11:29] <Simeon_H> why did my CD's arrive so quickly? :/
[11:30] <Jucato> and you're complaining? O.o
[11:31] <Lynoure> Simeon_H: you can shelf it for a week or five if you wish
[11:32] <Simeon_H> no I just wanna know why they only took like two weeks to get from the Isle of Man to australia and through customs and everything :/
[11:32] <Simeon_H> or more importantly, how
[11:33] <Jucato> of course by the magic of Ubuntu :)
[11:33] <Simeon_H> meh it says pass it on?
[11:34] <Simeon_H> is this like the shareware version of doom where if you don't distribute it to everyone some dude comes and hacks your arms off?
[11:35] <bahr> I got my CD's within two weeks too :)
[11:37] <bahr> If I want to get involved with Kubuntu programming slowly, what kidn of programming languages do I need to learn? And is it possible to start slowly and build up skills in programming and still help? I only have experiences with C and C# programming
[11:37] <stalker_> i think c is enough
[11:38] <stalker_> but kde is c++ btw
[11:38] <Chousuke> C++ is pretty easy to learn if you know C
[11:38] <Chousuke> even easier if you know C# I suppose
[11:38] <Lynoure> but C is not easy to do well.
[11:39] <Chousuke> true.
[11:39] <stalker_> and don't start writting your own programs, start by examining existing ones, and impoving them
[11:39] <stalker_> like making patchs, and so on
[11:39] <bahr> I'm not an advanced C programmer
[11:39] <bahr> but I would like to be :P
[11:40] <bahr> allright, where do I find the source code for these programs?
[11:40] <stalker_> i'm not advanced too, and i wrote a bunch of gnome apps:/
[11:40] <Simeon_H> I wouldn't
[11:40] <stalker_> don't worry about that
[11:40] <Simeon_H> I'd like to be an electronics engineer
[11:40] <Simeon_H> seeing as that's what I'm studying :/
[11:40] <stalker_> go to kde site, there you can find
[11:40] <Lynoure> bahr: that's why you should prepare for them to reject/modify your patches the first 15 times :) It's good for the skin too, thickens it :)
[11:41] <stalker_> bue beware that kde is currently working on 4.0 version
[11:41] <stalker_> so you come in some fog right now
[11:41] <bahr> Lynoure: well I have nothing against that, I know there are a bunch of people out there, who are lightyears in front of my programming skills :) I just want to help, and hopefully I get better with time and experience.
[11:42] <Lynoure> bahr: sounds like you have what it takes then: motivation and willingness to learn
[11:42] <bahr> Ok, well I am looking for a starting point
[11:42] <stalker_> how long do you use kde?
[11:42] <bahr> Lynoure: yeah that I definitely have :)
[11:42] <stalker_> did you noticed any bug that is pissing you off?
[11:43] <stalker_> if so, dive into the code:)
[11:43] <stalker_> join mailing list
[11:43] <bahr> stalker_: Well not that long, I have used some different things during the time I used linux. Fluxbox, KDE, Gnome etc. but now I stick to KDE. It's the one I like the most
[11:43] <stalker_> hint: don't say on it: an i work on this bug:)
[11:43] <stalker_> can*
[11:43] <bahr> stalker_: but I don't know anything about the "inner" workings of KDE though
[11:44] <stalker_> you don't need, starts with some app in kde, not kde core
[11:44] <pand> Hello
[11:44] <Simeon_H> DOWN WITH TEH SOFTWARE PATENTS!
[11:44] <bahr> stalker_: ok :)
[11:45] <pand> I wonder how can I translate KDE documentation into other languages e.g. into Polish
[11:45] <pand> anybody knows where I can find documents explain it?
[11:45] <stalker_> translators.kde.org, i think, then find your countrymates first
[11:45] <pand> I'm going to check it, thanks
[11:46] <stalker_> don't be one man show, there's are many polish guys working on it
[11:46] <stalker_> best practice i saw is to ask what need s to be translated on polish lang mailing list
[11:46] <Skrot-> Hi. Any chance 2.6.21 will be backported to feisty?
[11:46] <_4strO> http://l10n.kde.org/
[11:46] <_4strO> pand: http://l10n.kde.org/$
[11:47] <pand> so firstly I want to get knowledge how to make translate and then I'm going to join to the Polish team
[11:47] <_4strO> oups without the $
[11:47] <bahr> But If I install a c/C++ dev environment, am I then ready to start playing around with patches and things that annoy me?
[11:47] <stud> ...     .?
[11:47] <stalker_> you need .po file and kbabel app - that's it;)
[11:47] <bahr> ok :)
[11:47] <pand> Thanks once again : )
[11:47] <stalker_> if you can compile it, then you're ready
[11:48] <bahr> Well I better get started now then :P
[11:49] <stalker_> take it slowly;)
[11:49] <stalker_> just don't give up on first error:)
[11:49] <bahr> stalker_: hehe I keep that in mind :)
[11:49] <stalker_> beggining to work on someone else code is far more harder then any programming
[11:50] <stalker_> hint: take smaller apps:D
[11:50] <_4strO> stalker_: depend of the original programmer ;)
[11:50] <stalker_> yeah:)
[11:50] <bahr> stalker_: Yeah I have experience with that from my education :)
[11:50] <stalker_> but, lloking to me, i would rather write my 10.000 lines of code then add 100 in existing:)
[11:51] <_4strO> i'm trying to learn C but it's very hard :p
[11:51] <Simeon_H> no it isn't
[11:51] <bahr> stalker_: sometimes working with your own OLD code with out comments, can be worse to lol
[11:51] <Simeon_H> if you use printf and scanf to output :P
[11:51] <stalker_> your code 6 months old is not your code anymore:D
[11:51] <_4strO> ^^ thats the magical thing :)
[11:52] <stalker_> printf is a joke, right?
[11:53] <Simeon_H> ....
[11:53] <Simeon_H> no I use it
[11:53] <stalker_> dont' use printf if possible, good old debbuger is only thing you need
[11:53] <stalker_> even gdb from console is better then inserting random printf
[11:53] <Simeon_H> meh It's all I need to know at this bound
[11:53] <Simeon_H> *point
[11:53] <_4strO> a="is"; printf("think it %s",a);
[11:54] <Jucato> ... and the magical !offtopic flag will soon be raised...
[11:54] <Simeon_H> next up is microcontroller asm :S
[11:54] <stalker_> lol
[11:54] <mikelima> hi all.
[11:54] <_4strO> hi
[11:55] <stalker_> is ktorrent mature enough? (azureus mature?)
[11:55] <mikelima> I am a bit puzzled. I'm trying to install wine on a kubuntu feisty (AMD_64) installation.
[11:55] <mikelima> Isn't wine supported on 64bit?
[11:55] <mikelima> because I can't find the package...
[11:56] <Jucato> mikelima: I'm afraid not.
[11:56] <mikelima> only winelib.
[11:56] <mikelima> Oh. Ok.
[11:56] <n0ts> Hi,
[11:56] <Jucato> mikelima: better ask in #winehq to be sure
[11:57] <Jucato> stalker_: I guess that depends on the azureus features that you are looking for. for basic torrent needs, ktorrent is good enough, without the overhead of java
[11:57] <mikelima> Well, thank you.
[11:57] <stalker_> last time i used it (6 months ago) and wanted to only seed existing torrent, it added 700mb to tracker (as i downloaded it:o)
[12:00] <Jucato> stalker_: lot of versions released since that time
[12:01] <stalker_> yeah, i guess it's ok now
[12:01] <stalker_> it works ok, and jvm is'nt more in memory:)
[12:06] <strog_> hi
[12:06] <strog_> i have a porblem with using the apt-get install in the console
[12:07] <strog_> i always get an error message that it couldnt find the package
[12:07] <strog_> famous ones like kdevelop or vlc mediaplayer
[12:09] <strog_> anybody there?\
[12:10] <rbrunhuber> Can anybody help me with debugging/testing cronjobs?
[12:10] <stalker_> better ask on #ubuntu
[12:14] <stalker_> you cant' debug it
[12:14] <strog_> i have a problem with the apt-get install command, when i want to install vlc mediaplayer i get the error message that the package isnt there
[12:15] <stalker_> but you can `touch` some file, and see later if it's vreated
[12:15] <stalker_> strog_: try on #ubuntu or some debian, obviously noone knows
[12:17] <Jucato> strog_: check if you have the correct repositories enabled. have you tried installing using Adept?
[12:22] <flake> is xrandr unsupported on feisty?
[12:23] <flake> trying to link against  /usr/bin and finding some undefined references
[12:23] <Skrot-> What are you trying to compile?
[12:23] <flake> an irrlict program
[12:23] <phpcode> do linux have a program thats like deamon tools in windows?
[12:24] <flake> trying to get it to restore the desktop after fullscreen
[12:24] <Skrot-> I think xrandr is supported
[12:25] <Skrot-> flake: You might want libxrandr-dev libxrandr2 and xlibs-dev installed though
[12:25] <Skrot-> hum.. xlibs-dev depends on libxrandr-dev so no need to install both
[12:27] <tarelerulz> It there any easy way to see if  you have wep for or way to install it ?
[12:27] <tarelerulz> For wireless connnections?
[12:28] <flake> I already have the packages
[12:30] <ktarded> tarelerulz: What are you trying to do?
[12:32] <tarelerulz> Well, I will network that are not free like library and stuff and I want to know what I will need to get onto them and I thought wep was something I need
[12:34] <tarelerulz> On stuff like library I don't think you need something like wep ,but on not open network I would like to know what I need ?
[12:36] <tarelerulz> Ktarded , what do you think ? what do you need for stuff like coffie shop and other hot spotes
[12:36] <AdrenaliN198306> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me through downloading and install the orinoco wireless driver in kubuntu i386
[12:38] <faik> hello
[12:38] <faik> anyone installed Geforce 7600 on ubuntu ?
[12:39] <morfejas> sweiki yra lt?:)
[12:39] <faik> does anyone speak russian ?
[12:39] <morfejas> I not
[12:39] <morfejas> :)
[12:40] <faik> where are u from ?
[12:41] <tarelerulz> I have aunt that is Runssain . I learn the word for yes haha
[12:44] <faik> so anyone know how to install Geforce 7600 driver on ubuntu ?
[12:44] <loxley_> ps aux
[12:44] <loxley_> oops :)
[12:44] <faik> lol
[12:45] <faik> aux )
[12:46] <faik> anyone play world of warcraft ) ?
[12:47] <tarelerulz> Faik, So you have verion of warcraft tha works with wine
[12:51] <flake> why is it, when playing wolf - et, the monitor goes dark and I have to calibrate the gamma to reset the brightness?
[12:51] <flake> using feisty
[12:52] <flake> it's kind of annoying, wondering if it has to do with a screensaver setting or power option or something
[12:58] <tmulvaney> is kubuntu feisty faster than edgy due to qt4?
[12:58] <sercik> Hi people!!
[12:59] <Fusselwurm|w0rk> feisty uses kde3.x, just as edgy... and kde3 depends imho on qt3
[12:59] <sercik> i'm here to help! because i have solver all my problems with kubuntu (??)
[12:59] <tmulvaney> is worth upgrading to?
[01:00] <tmulvaney> it looks the same, whats under the hood
[01:02] <sercik> feisty is slower than edgy
[01:04] <lucifer_>  
[01:04] <lucifer_> ?
[01:10] <Fusselwurm|w0rk> ubuntu, wrong channel ;)
[01:17] <caris_mere> I need some help installing Kubuntu
[01:17] <caris_mere> I am installing with disk. it now says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:20] <caris_mere> What does this mean? /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:21] <caris_mere> I can't get my computer to start up the live disk
[01:37] <Stardog> ! tar.bz2
[01:37] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:39] <Stardog> so... I have a file wich is kompressed in tar.bz2..... it wont open with ark... or.. it opens in a window... but nothing will apear... anyone know why?
[01:40] <Skrot-> Stardog: Try "bunzip2 yourfile.tar.bz2" in a shell
[01:41] <darkolaus> hello everybody
[01:41] <darkolaus> i have a question with KPPP, may I ask?
[01:41] <seishinbyou> good evening
[01:41] <Skrot-> !ask
[01:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:41] <sherin> hey guys
[01:41] <Stardog> Skrot-: k... thx
[01:42] <darkolaus> ok iv just installed kubuntu 7.04
[01:42] <darkolaus> and when i start KPPP error message appears:
[01:42] <darkolaus> /etc/resolv.conf is missing or can't be read!
[01:42] <darkolaus> Ask your system administrator to create this file (can be empty) with appropriate read and write permissions.
[01:42] <nate_> so whos next inline to help with my simple yet gay problem lol
[01:42] <darkolaus> when i try to create the file
[01:42] <darkolaus> i cant, that is i dont have permitions
[01:43] <darkolaus> im a linux novice
[01:43] <darkolaus> so any help is appreciated
[01:43] <Skrot-> darkolaus: Do you know how to access the shell/terminal?
[01:43] <darkolaus> i think so
[01:43] <Skrot-> Or command line interface
[01:43] <Skrot-> Whatever it's called :p
[01:43] <darkolaus> i know
[01:43] <dhq> hey i have nvdia grafix card mx 4 i dont know how to get it to work
[01:43] <darkolaus> i need to do a sudo thingy
[01:43] <darkolaus> right?
[01:43] <Skrot-> Maybe, lets see
[01:44] <darkolaus> ok lets see
[01:44] <Skrot-> Open the command line interface and enter "cat /etc/resolv.conf" -- let me know if that returns anything
[01:44] <Skrot-> Without the "'s around
[01:44] <darkolaus> ps im on windows now
[01:44] <seishinbyou> nvidia?  Did you install the restricted drivers?
[01:44] <Skrot-> ah
[01:44] <darkolaus> but ok i can hybernate and then return here
[01:45] <Skrot-> If you can return here while in linux, why do you need KPPP?
[01:45] <dhq> hey i have nvdia grafix card mx 4 i dont know how to get it to work
[01:45] <seishinbyou> what isn't working
[01:45] <darkolaus> no no no ill try what you said
[01:45] <Skrot-> darkolaus: ah hold on
[01:45] <darkolaus> on kubuntu and then return to windows
[01:45] <Skrot-> darkolaus: You've got something to write on?
[01:45] <darkolaus> yes
[01:45] <flake> dhq - are you running feisty
[01:46] <dhq> flake, yes
[01:46] <flake> get driver from linux website
[01:46] <dhq> flake, huh
[01:46] <seishinbyou> I did mine by installing "restricted-manager"
[01:46] <flake> doh from nvidia website
[01:46] <seishinbyou> and using that to get the nvidia drivers
[01:46] <flake> my bad
[01:46] <Skrot-> darkolaus: Okay, try "cat /etc/resolv.conf" first. If that says no such file or something similar, try "sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf;sudo chmod 755 /etc/resolv.conf"
[01:46] <flake> and be in terminal - non-gui mode, to install it
[01:46] <darkolaus> skrot-: ok thanx ill try it
[01:47] <dhq> flake, i installed nvidia-glx it doent load the module
[01:47] <nate_> well, heres the deal, ive install fiesty on my laptop, all went well, update, got berly going, installed some apps. i dont know what i did but all the little icons in the bottom right next to the clock are gone, and even tho i right click, add times, the ones i want arent there, main one is knetwork manager, so i can use mu wireless, how the hell do i get them all back there? :( also my sound is borked, but after some googling thats going to be a pain in the
[01:47] <nate_> as
[01:47] <flake> still need the driver from nvidia
[01:48] <seishinbyou> beh, for the nvidia thing, I just did "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager" from a terminal, ran it, clicked the nvidia box, entered a password, and after restarting X, *poof* much happiness
[01:48] <dhq> !nvidia
[01:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:49] <Skrot-> nate_: Right click the kicker panel (the one where the clock is) -> Add Applet to Panel -> System Tray -- if it's not on that list something else is wrong.
[01:51] <nate_> ok i did that, the only things that came up where, the speaker, clip board, and battery :(
[01:51] <Skrot-> nate_: Then start the other apps.. "knetworkmanager" for instance
[01:51] <Skrot-> nate_: If it doesnt appear after that, try "killall knetworkmanager" and start it again
[01:53] <nate_> yay, its there, thanks heaps, also, my boot process takes a while, it pauses on looking for resume image, even when i shut down
[01:53] <nate_> adds a good 15seconds or so
[01:53] <Xtacy> IS there a problem with nvidia on fiesty ?
[01:54] <Skrot-> Ive got nvidia on feisty without any trouble
[01:54] <seishinbyou> Not for me...
[01:57] <soviet>   
[01:57] <seishinbyou> Is it possible to have SCIM allow for input from two different keyboards in two different layouts in the same time? (i.e. Japanese on the QWERTY, Arabic on the DVORAK)
[01:57] <nate__> how do i turn off the mouse over info in the tabs, it looks crap cause the beryl ones are working
[02:00] <seishinbyou> nate__: In the System Settings,
[02:00] <soviet>   .   ;;
[02:00] <seishinbyou> Actually, right click the panel and go to settings
[02:00] <seishinbyou> In the "Appearance" section
[02:00] <seishinbyou> uncheck the "General" boxes
[02:00] <seishinbyou> I'm not using an English interface, so I don't know what it is in English
[02:04] <flake> dhq, are you doing ok with it so far
[02:04] <nate__> any ideas on how to get  a intel HDA card working :( its the only thing make me sad now
[02:04] <Skrot-> Funny.. my intel hda card worked out of the box
[02:05] <Skrot-> nate__: lsmod | grep snd return anything
[02:05] <Skrot-> ?
[02:06] <nate__> shouldi paste here?
[02:07] <dhq> flake, do i have to install build-essentials
[02:07] <Skrot-> No, no need. Did it return "snd_hda_intel" and "snd_hda_codec"?
[02:07] <Skrot-> Among others
[02:07] <nate__> ill look
[02:07] <nate__> nate@natious:~$  lsmod | grep snd
[02:07] <nate__> snd_hda_intel          21912  5
[02:07] <nate__> snd_hda_codec         205440  1 snd_hda_intel
[02:07] <Skrot-> right. Try starting kmix and check that the sound isn't muted
[02:07] <flake> wouldn't hurt
[02:08] <dhq> flake, flake ???
[02:08] <darkolaus> thanx skrot- that worked
[02:08] <flake> dhq  I'm here, it wouldn't hurt
[02:08] <Skrot-> darkolaus: No problem. You're online from linux now?
[02:08] <darkolaus> no i have just one more problem
[02:08] <Dekkard> !mp3
[02:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:08] <darkolaus> how to find out where my winmodem is linked i tried /dev/modem
[02:09] <Skrot-> No idea about winmodem .|
[02:09] <flake> did you see the nvidia instructions on installing the driver?
[02:09] <darkolaus> ok nvmind
[02:09] <darkolaus> does anyone knows?
[02:09] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[02:09] <Skrot-> darkolaus: Are you trying to connect using dial-up modem?
[02:09] <dhq> flake, where do i see
[02:09] <darkolaus> skrot-: yes
[02:09] <dhq> flake, just help me
[02:09] <flake> you say it is geforce 4 series?
[02:09] <nate__> the 2 top ones were full, bottom one was half, and how do you force kill apps, amarok keeps freezing everytime i try and place somthing
[02:10] <dhq> flake, yes
[02:10] <Skrot-> darkolaus: Might want to have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[02:10] <flake> quadro fx 4600 or 5600
[02:10] <flake> that type?
[02:10] <darkolaus> dial-up modem = winmodem
[02:10] <flake> http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
[02:10] <darkolaus> skrot: ok i'll look
[02:10] <flake> select Graphics Driver, cardtype, then os
[02:11] <flake> it will take you to the screen w/ instructions
[02:11] <Dekkard> how do you get mp3 playback with noatun?
[02:13] <darkolaus> skrot-: ok thanx i found smth that i think is usable, your the best
[02:13] <flake> you can't install the nvidia driver while kde is up, I believe
[02:14] <flake> dhq what's your status
[02:16] <dhq> flake, just a sec
[02:17] <dhq> flake, nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)
[02:18] <flake> yes you want the gforce 4 series driver
[02:18] <flake> I assume you are on a 32-bit os, so here:  http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9755.html
[02:19] <flake> click on supported products on left and you'll see your card in the list
[02:22] <nate_> what are some must have apps for linux?
[02:22] <flake> gimp
[02:22] <flake> open office, MM3D
[02:23] <flake> wine if you want to try running some of your windows stuff
[02:23] <nate_> whats MM3D? i have office and gimp
[02:23] <seishinbyou> sshd?
[02:23] <nate_> and is there away to have widgets? and change the clock to 12hr lol
[02:24] <flake> mm3d is if you want to build some basic 3d models and animate them
[02:24] <Jucato> !superkaramba | nate_
[02:24] <ubotu> nate_: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[02:24] <flake> you have to build from source though
[02:24] <Jucato> nate_: to change to 12-hour, right-click on the clock -> Date & Time Format -> Date & Time tab
[02:25] <BluesKaj> !qemu
[02:25] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[02:26] <nate_> yay
[02:27] <nate_> is there away to emulate xp in linx and have full support on everything? or the best would be to dual boot for gaming
[02:27] <flake> for gaming, best to dual boot imo - emulating xp is like putting a volvo engine in a lambroughini
[02:27] <seishinbyou> For gaming, if it won't run under wine, then dual boot
[02:27] <seishinbyou> VMWare is available, but you won't get native speed on 3d graphics
[02:28] <seishinbyou> It is more than sufficient for things like photoshop and msoffice if you need it
[02:28] <seishinbyou> or any work-related windows-only software
[02:28] <nate_> oh ok, thats handy
[02:28] <seishinbyou> qemu is the free alternative to vmware
[02:28] <seishinbyou> kqemu is the accelerated version I think
[02:29] <Jucato> kqemu is an accelerator of sorts for qemu. it's not a qemu version (afaik)
[02:29] <flake> can qemu handle windows 98 for the older games, including the directx3-6 range?
[02:29] <nate_> its funny that wireless worked out the box with kubuntu but didnt for xp/vista, ive migrated from xp>vista>xp>osx86>xp>kubuntu, abit confusing, but seems nicer
[02:30] <seishinbyou> Possibly, but I haven't tried.  I could try firing up Diablo or something
[02:30] <seishinbyou> dosbox is good for the older dos games
[02:30] <seishinbyou> depends on what you are running, actually
[02:31] <olympic_> fwfewefwef
[02:32] <nate_> are there any "special repositories" if you know whati mean, and is a anti virus needed on linux?
[02:32] <flake> mech 2 mercenaries - titanium, and mech 2 titanium
[02:33] <flake> wine wouldn't handle it, or something about my xrander libs but everything seems up to date
[02:35] <nate_> is there a better kernel i should be using with a core duo?
[02:38] <flake> dhq how are you doing
[02:41] <seishinbyou> mech 2 mercs?  Dosbox should be able to handle that
[02:42] <seishinbyou> nate_: anti-virus on Linux?  Erm...you could try using Wine to run Kapersky if you *really* wanted
[02:43] <llutz> antivirus: amavis, clamav, f-prot (all native linux, no wine required)
[02:43] <ubuntu> ahoj potrebuju pomoct ohledne linux kubuntu
[02:43] <Jucato> !cz | ubuntu
[02:43] <ubotu> ubuntu: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[02:44] <seishinbyou> Meh
[02:45] <seishinbyou> But I remember using f-prot
[02:45] <seishinbyou> (old DOS version)
[02:50] <sercik> hi
[02:51] <sercik> someone is interested to a program like babylon in windows??
[02:51] <skane> how i can open reposites in kubuntu 6.06 LTS?? thx
[02:51] <seishinbyou> babylon?
[02:52] <seishinbyou> Oh
[02:52] <_4strO> skane: kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:52] <RobNyc-work> Hello, as I'm using xchat on gnome each channel is highlighted in red when i receive messages, but here in kubuntu it doesnt work like that
[02:52] <Jucato> !repositories | skane
[02:52] <ubotu> skane: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:52] <_4strO> skane: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:52] <sercik> is a program that tranlate on the fly
[02:52] <sercik> from many to many languages
[02:52] <Jucato> !info kbabel
[02:53] <ubotu> kbabel: PO-file editing suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1664 kB, installed size 5380 kB
[02:53] <skane> thx veru much
[02:53] <sercik> Jucato: i have found a procedure and a great guide to use babylon dictionary and convert it to .dict
[02:53] <MementoMori> hi all
[02:53] <sercik> if someone is interested...
[02:53] <dhq> flake, pm please
[02:53] <MementoMori> I have a problem install kubuntu on a i386 pc
[02:53] <stdin> can someone with a fresh feisty install check if there is a drop down menu on top of the configure panel dialog, from right-clicking the panel and choosing "Configure Panel..."?
[02:53] <seishinbyou> translation on the fly is a real pot-shot, but it depends on your source material
[02:54] <seishinbyou> stdin: yes
[02:54] <sercik> MementoMori: what do you need??
[02:54] <flake> dhq ok one sec
[02:54] <stdin> seishinbyou: like this? http://www.zone.ee/zeroconf/errors/kubuntu_7-04_taskbar_changes_not_working/kubuntu_6-10_KDE_3-5-4.png
[02:54] <MementoMori> I did text install from dvd and put grub in mbr but after reboot  grud loads until stage 1.5 and then it says "Error 17"
[02:55] <MementoMori> s/grud/grub
[02:55] <seishinbyou> right click, go to $B%Z%M%k%a%K%e!<(B and select $B%Q%M%k$N@_Dj(B
[02:56] <MementoMori> I saw a strange thing while I was installing the system
[02:56] <sercik> i have found a guide in italian that say the problem could be a alsa module
[02:57] <MementoMori> I have only a ide hd on primary master and two dvd device on secondary channel
[02:57] <MementoMori> but installer saw my hd as sda
[02:57] <seishinbyou> stdin: I see
[02:57] <MementoMori> instead of hda
[02:57] <seishinbyou> If you don't have 2 panels, I don't know if that is displayed
[02:57] <sercik> i don't know why but sometimes happens, this shouldn't be a problem
[02:57] <llutz> MementoMori: sda because of the libata, all ide-devices are mapped now into sdX
[02:57] <sercik> do you have a linux live cd??
[02:58] <stdin> seishinbyou: it normally is, and I do have 2 panels
[02:58] <seishinbyou> stdin: Oh.  Just a second.  I'll try some things
[02:58] <MementoMori> llutz: ok so sda/hda name swapping isnt a problem
[02:58] <MementoMori> but what about grub error?
[02:58] <sercik> no don't worry
[02:58] <sercik> you can try to reinstall grub
[02:58] <annee> heeyyy
[02:59] <MementoMori> I have a generi floppy disk with grub
[02:59] <MementoMori> may I use it?
[02:59] <stdin> seishinbyou: I didn't notice it missing before, but someone posted a message to the mailinglist saying it was missing. and it is for me on a new install, but it's there on a system upgraded from edgy
[02:59] <MementoMori> or there is a way to boot from dvd in rescue mode?
[03:00] <sercik> if you can access to your linux partition you can send me your menu.lst file
[03:00] <sercik> the problem should be that grub is not able to mount partition
[03:00] <Jucato> stdin: what's missing?
[03:00] <sercik> probably because an error in menu.lst
[03:00] <RobNyc-work> Hello, as I'm using xchat on gnome each channel is highlighted in red when i receive messages, but here in kubuntu it doesnt work like that .. anyone else using xchat ?
[03:00] <MementoMori> sercik: I'll try to access the disk but gimme just 10 minutes, ok?
[03:00] <sercik> konversation
[03:01] <sercik> yes
[03:01] <sercik> i'm here
[03:01] <stdin> Jucato: the panel chooser dropdown menu: http://www.zone.ee/zeroconf/errors/kubuntu_7-04_taskbar_changes_not_working/kubuntu_6-10_KDE_3-5-4.png
[03:01] <MementoMori> ok thank you
[03:01] <seishinbyou> stdin: Okay, that might be the case
[03:01] <seishinbyou> I'm on an upgraded system
[03:01] <Jucato> stdin: is it your problem? just restart kicker
[03:01] <sercik> RobNyc-work: i like konversation as irc client
[03:01] <seishinbyou> I would have to install a new system to try
[03:01] <sercik> is already installed in kubuntu
[03:01] <Jucato> afaik it's a KDE 3.5.5-.6 intermittent bug
[03:01] <RobNyc-work> sercik, i dont think there are any scripts for it like sysinfo ones
[03:01] <stdin> Jucato: I have it too, but others have it (it was reported on the mailing list)
[03:02] <sercik> RobNyc-work: i don't use script sorry!
[03:02] <Jucato> stdin: yeah it's sort of a bug that I still haven't been able to pin down
[03:02] <RobNyc-work> hehe
[03:02] <sercik> you can tri to wun mirc wirth wine!
[03:02] <sercik> you can try to run mirc wirth wine!
[03:02] <seishinbyou> why would you do that?
[03:02] <zenekk> dupa
[03:02] <stdin> Jucato: restarting kicker doesn't solve it here
[03:03] <Jucato> stdin: "dcop kicker kicker restart" doesn't work?
[03:03] <seishinbyou> konversation isn't going to save the world, but I don't have a problem with it, and it works with international character sets just fine
[03:03] <seishinbyou> mIRC keeps screwing up the CJK encoding for me :(
[03:03] <robewald> hi, how can i make the java console visible in firefox?
[03:03] <stdin> Jucato: it restarted kicker, but didn't bring back the dropdown menu
[03:04] <sercik> seishinbyou: i like konversation its clean and speed and works good for me
[03:04] <Jucato> stdin: hm... can you try looking into kcontrol itself? and do you have 2 panels right now?
[03:05] <stdin> Jucato: ahh, it just showed up
[03:05] <stdin> Jucato: strange little bug there
[03:06] <DJServers> hi all
[03:06] <Jucato> the fact that it's so intermittent makes it annoying even more
[03:08] <sercik> can i have krandrtray in kubuntu??
[03:08] <sercik> i like it but i can't find
[03:08] <sercik> or to have another tool in tray that permit to switch resolution??
[03:09] <Jucato> hm? Alt+F2, "krandrtray"
[03:10] <sercik> i'm stupid!!
[03:10] <sercik> i search in apt-cache and in synaptic but i wan not able to find it
[03:10] <MementoMori> sercik: ok. I have menu.lst
[03:10] <MementoMori> !paste
[03:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:11] <MementoMori> !nopaste
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <seishinbyou> krandrtray, woot.  Now I can run at 320x240
[03:11] <makki> after update no taskbar!! please help to return it
[03:11] <sercik> MementoMori: paste that
[03:11] <MementoMori> sercik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21127/
[03:11] <sercik> that you need to explain me: how much hard disk do you have??
[03:12] <seishinbyou> makki: right click the panel.  "Add to Panel"  Select Taskbar
[03:12] <Jucato> sercik: it's because it's not in a separate package. krandrtray is part of kdebase
[03:12] <MementoMori> sercik: I have sda1: windows; sda2: swap; sda3: /; sda4: /home
[03:12] <sercik> Jucato: thank you!!
[03:12] <sercik> MementoMori: do you have only one HD??
[03:13] <sercik> and is configured as primary master??
[03:13] <MementoMori> sercik: yes
[03:13] <sercik> are you able to start other OS?
[03:13] <MementoMori> sercik: no because of grub error
[03:14] <sercik> ah so you don't see list of operating system?
[03:14] <MementoMori> grub stop working before menu loads
[03:15] <MementoMori> no. grub stop at stage 1.5 with error 17
[03:15] <sercik> can you edit menu.lst file??
[03:15] <orient2000> Hi! I have some problem with Evolution. I have only one font style. No bold characters for e-mail or diferent size. Do I miss some any packages?
[03:15] <MementoMori> yes I can because I booted with a finnix live cd
[03:16] <sercik> probably if you can't see list of operating system the problem is in grub and not in menu.lst you can try for a guide in internet..
[03:17] <sercik> it is possible to copy grub in a floppy and start the system with it
[03:17] <MementoMori> sercik: how can I do this?
[03:17] <sercik> you can also try to substitute hd0 with sd0 in menu.lst
[03:18] <sercik> but first you could delete grub from mbr at least you could boot windows xp
[03:18] <sercik> you need a dos boot disk and do the command fdisk /mbr
[03:19] <seishinbyou> will that work on a usb clipdrive, too?
[03:19] <seishinbyou> assuming you can boot from usb
[03:20] <MementoMori> what should I copy to the floppy to have a grub shell on boot?
[03:20] <sercik> i have a guide but is in italian
[03:20] <MementoMori> sercik: this is great because I'm italian ;)
[03:21] <seishinbyou> lucky night
[03:21] <sercik> Ciao!
[03:21] <MementoMori> ciao!
[03:22] <sercik> wait a minute i search it
[03:22] <MementoMori> ok
[03:23] <sercik> i remeber bad i have found the guide but is in english but i don't think this is a problem for you
[03:23] <seishinbyou> wow, ntfs tools didn't choke on my ntfs drive
[03:24] <seishinbyou> will wonders never cease
[03:24] <seishinbyou> Which is great because Windows chokes on that drive
[03:25] <DJServers> i have a question
[03:26] <stdin> !ask | DJServers
[03:26] <ubotu> DJServers: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:26] <DJServers> i have downloaded an MTA Server but when i try t install it in konsole i typ: sudo apt-get install mta_server but then it says cannot find tthe file
[03:27] <seishinbyou> !uboto
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <seishinbyou> just checking :)
[03:27] <DJServers> somebody nows i need the server before saturday
[03:28] <BluesKaj> DJServers, to what folder where did you downloads the file ?
[03:29] <DJServers> to; /home/frank/MTA-Server
[03:29] <DJServers> test
[03:29] <BluesKaj> what kind of file is it ?
[03:29] <DJServers> wait a sec
[03:30] <jakelights> help please what is the command if my adept crashes?
[03:31] <DJServers> ehm.. how to say it in english it is an useble file or something:P i am from hollan so
[03:31] <stdin> !aptfix | jakelights
[03:31] <ubotu> jakelights: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:32] <jakelights> thanks
[03:32] <BluesKaj> DJServers, what's the file extension ?
[03:33] <DJServers> where can i see that?
[03:33] <stdin> !postfix
[03:33] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[03:33] <BluesKaj> usually the last couple of letters in the file name
[03:34] <DJServers> BleusKaj, where can i see that ?
[03:34] <BluesKaj> the name of the file
[03:35] <DJServers> there just stand mta_server
[03:35] <DJServers> not any more
[03:38] <BluesKaj> DJServers, http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMailMTA.html#MTA
[03:38] <DJServers> BleusKaj. what to do now?
[03:38] <DJServers> o
[03:38] <stdin> or use postfix
[03:38] <DJServers> and that is
[03:38] <stdin> !postfix
[03:38] <DJServers> but its an game server
[03:38] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[03:38] <DJServers> no no not the MTA Mail Server
[03:39] <DJServers> the MTA Game Server For GTA San Andreas
[03:39] <stdin> where did you download it from?
[03:40] <BluesKaj> DJServers, http://wiki.mtasa.com/index.php?title=MTA:SA_Race-Linux_Server_Guide
[03:40] <DJServers> http://www.mtasa.com/dl-archive.html
[03:41] <DJServers> i have a look there
[03:43] <BluesKaj> !dual-boot
[03:43] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:46] <ubuntu> hi, hab rger mit der kubuntu installation. kann mir jemand helfen?
[03:47] <dergringo> ubuntu: #kubuntu-de
[03:47] <Jucato> !de | ubuntu
[03:47] <ubotu> ubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:49] <mo0osah> !konversation
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <BluesKaj> what's the best way to preserve grub (dual boot) while reinstalling windows ?
[03:50] <Jucato> there is no way... you will have to reinstall grub
[03:50] <Jucato> Windows doesn't really give you the choice not to install it's own bootloader
[03:51] <BluesKaj> ok , wife insists on the windows option til she gets used to edgy.
[03:51] <Jucato> reinstall windows, then reinstall grub
[03:51] <stdin> vmware not an option?
[03:51] <BluesKaj> she's very reluctant
[03:51] <Jucato> or that
[03:52] <BluesKaj>  not on her old pc
[03:52] <stdin> just follow the reinstalling grub guide then
[03:53] <BluesKaj> right , I have the supergrub cd
[03:54] <mo0osah> How do I make the user list visible in konversation
[03:55] <zhangkai> ctrl+h
[03:55] <zhangkai> mo0osah
[03:55] <mo0osah> thanks!
[03:57] <DJServers> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[03:57] <DJServers>   Major opcode:  145
[03:57] <DJServers>   Minor opcode:  3
[03:57] <DJServers>   Resource id:  0x0
[03:57] <DJServers> Failed to open device
[03:57] <_4str1> !baddevice | DJServers
[03:57] <ubotu> DJServers: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[03:58] <DJServers> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[03:58] <DJServers>   Major opcode:  145
[03:58] <DJServers>   Minor opcode:  3
[03:58] <DJServers>   Resource id:  0x0
[03:58] <DJServers> Failed to open device
[03:58] <DJServers> kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 11
[03:58] <DJServers> i get that
[03:58] <DJServers> o thx
[03:58] <mo0osah> Is it possible to make konversation transparent?
[03:58] <AFaith> hello people
[03:58] <AFaith> have a question
[03:58] <AFaith> does anyone of you know
[03:58] <AFaith> what happens on pclinuxos irc channel ?
[03:59] <sercik> AFaith: yesterday you asked how to create a .deb package??
[03:59] <AFaith> sercik: yes :P
[03:59] <sercik> i have created three .deb
[03:59] <sercik> but i suspect that they are not able to check dependendies
[04:00] <AFaith> sercik: i've found a very good tutorial on howtoforge
[04:00] <AFaith> about creating deb packages
[04:00] <sercik> the program is checkinstall you need only to ./configure and then you need to do sudo checkinstall
[04:00] <AFaith> yes, i referring on the same program :)
[04:00] <sercik> at the end you have a backup a .deb qnd the software already installed
[04:02] <sercik> i need the last thing to make my kubuntu perfect... an installation of win2k with usb working
[04:02] <AFaith> sercik: i don't understand
[04:03] <AFaith> whats the connection between a perfect kubuntu and win2k ?
[04:03] <sercik> i mean win2k virtualized under kubuntu
[04:03] <sercik> i have tried but i'm not able to do usb working
[04:04] <AFaith> oh... i see
[04:06] <pgquiles> is there anything like manedit for KDE?
[04:09] <DJServers> http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors  i cant change the xorg.conf then it says connot be saved no acces to this file
[04:09] <DJServers> only the owner can change the acces
[04:11] <_4strO> DJServers: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:12] <unixguru88> what is java path which is to be set in opera
[04:16] <DJServers> i cant rewirt the .conf file
[04:16] <seishinbyou> I just use "sudo vi xorg.conf", but you would have to know the vi commands
[04:16] <_4strO> DJServers: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:17] <DJServers> yeah i can open it but when i changed it i cant save it
[04:17] <DJServers> thats the prob
[04:17] <_4strO> DJServers: ??? you type 'kdesu' ?
[04:18] <DJServers> where to type? in konsole ?
[04:18] <_4strO> DJServers: yes, type : kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:18] <mo0osah> !rar
[04:18] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:18] <neurobug> hi everyone
[04:18] <_4strO> last time i say it to you ...
[04:19] <neurobug> somebody help meeeeeee!
[04:19] <_4strO> !ask | neurobug
[04:19] <ubotu> neurobug: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:19] <DJServers> look now i get this wait a sec
[04:20] <neurobug> I changed the screen resolution to 1440x900 but when I reboot the pc, the resolution is 1024x768 again
[04:20] <DJServers> kbuildsycoca running...
[04:20] <DJServers> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[04:20] <DJServers> Invalid entry (missing '=') at /tmp/kde-root/kconf_updateKARzQa.tmp:1
[04:20] <DJServers> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:20] <seishinbyou> neurobug: using a thinkpad?
[04:20] <_4strO> DJServers: dont paste plz
[04:20] <_4strO> i know what you have ...
[04:20] <DJServers> ok srry
[04:20] <DJServers> hey it open
[04:20] <_4strO> ;)
[04:20] <seishinbyou> hooray for modern technology
[04:20] <DJServers> but can i now change it?
[04:21] <seishinbyou> you're the one with the keyboard
[04:21] <_4strO> DJServers: you open it as the root user (kdesu) so you can do everything
[04:21] <DJServers> okay thx
[04:22] <DJServers> its saved thx you!! very much!! no lets see if the server rins
[04:22] <_4strO> neurobug: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[04:23] <DJServers> *runs
[04:23] <neurobug> I'm using a laptop: hp pavilion dv9000
[04:24] <neurobug> The nvidia driver are succesully configured
[04:24] <_4strO> neurobug: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[04:24] <style> good morning
[04:24] <_4strO> yop style
[04:24] <DJServers> _4str0 how to delete the backup file: xorg.conf-old
[04:25] <style> hi _4strO
[04:25] <_4strO> DJServers: why you wanna delete this file
[04:25] <DJServers> well i still get the same error when i open my server
[04:25] <_4strO> is you have any pb one day, it could be usefull to have a correct backup
[04:25] <DJServers> yeah but now my server still dunst work
[04:26] <DJServers> wait a sec
[04:26] <DJServers> nope
[04:26] <neurobug> nop, i can't paste it... the Konversation blocks the flood
[04:26] <_4strO> DJServers: if you have modify something in your xorg.conf you have to reload your X server
[04:26] <DJServers> i still get the same error
[04:26] <NiceGuyUK> !paste > neurobug
[04:26] <DJServers> how to do that?
[04:26] <DJServers> i am new whit linux
[04:26] <_4strO> !paste | neurobug
[04:27] <ubotu> neurobug: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:27] <NiceGuyUK> lol, thx _4strO
[04:27] <DJServers> how to restart X Server ?
[04:27] <sercik> DJServers: listen me
[04:27] <NiceGuyUK> DJServers: CTRL-ALT and Backspace
[04:27] <DJServers> ok
[04:27] <sercik> press ctrl-alt-F1
[04:27] <_4strO> DJServers: close your session and reopen it or just ctrl-alt-backsapce (will close the session)
[04:27] <sercik> you go in console
[04:27] <sercik> then you need to do sudo /etc/init,d/kdm stop
[04:28] <sercik> then you can try to edit your xorg.conf
[04:28] <sercik> and you can try to start X with command startx
[04:28] <_4strO> sercik: [16:27]  <-- DJServers a quitt ce serveur (Remote closed the connection).
[04:28] <sercik> so you can see error in console and you can search on google fot that error or ask gere
[04:29] <sercik> _4strO: probably he hace pressed ctrl-alt-F1 too soon :)
[04:29] <_4strO> sercik: ctrl-alt-backspace i think
[04:30] <sercik> ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:30] <sercik> is to close X
[04:30] <sercik> but kdm always restart itself
[04:30] <_4strO> i know i know ...
[04:30] <NiceGuyUK> better than ALT-SysReq-S,U,B I suppose ;-)
[04:30] <sercik> What??
[04:31] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: kernel level reset
[04:31] <sercik> i don't know that command couls you explain better?
[04:31] <seishinbyou> You could rip the power cable out, plug it back in and boot again, but I'm impatient
[04:31] <seishinbyou> s/impatient/overstressed/
[04:31] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: that combination of keys sync's disks, unmounts them, then reboots the machine
[04:32] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: useful when things lock up completely, cos its at kernel level so normally works in emergencies
[04:32] <sercik> but which is the key sysreq??
[04:32] <sercik> S.U.B. i don't understand
[04:32] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: shared key with PrintScreen
[04:34] <main2> does kubuntu have a firewall turned on by default?!
[04:34] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: means hold the ALT and SysReq keys, then press S then U then B (BUT NOT NOW! ;-) )
[04:34] <sercik> increbible combination!!
[04:35] <NiceGuyUK> designed so you don't press it by accident :-)
[04:35] <NiceGuyUK> main2: no, but it doesn't have many ports open by default either
[04:35] <sercik> i can't resist i need to try!!
[04:36] <NiceGuyUK> lol
[04:36] <_4strO> NiceGuyUK: what about iptable N
[04:36] <_4strO> ??
[04:37] <seishinbyou> main2: lokkit, guarddog are available
[04:37] <seishinbyou> haven't tried firestarter
[04:37] <NiceGuyUK> _4strO: I think its installed but not enabled.  could be wrong though
[04:37] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/457 for more magix SysReq commands
[04:37] <sercik> try kmyfirewall is very complete and have a nice interface
[04:37] <seishinbyou> iptables is there by default, though
[04:37] <sercik> NiceGuyUK: you are a Guru nice to meet you
[04:38] <cristina> 
[04:38] <mo0osah> how do you minimize firefox to tray
[04:38] <sercik> the name of my girlfriend is cristina :) but she don't like pc
[04:38] <dromer> I'm trying to install the ubuntu.deb of BALLview: http://www.ballview.org/BALL/Downloads/BV-1.1.1/  but I'm having unmet dependecies: python2.3
[04:38] <dromer> but I can't get python2.3 from the repo's
[04:38] <sercik> so you are not she
[04:38] <dromer> can I use 2.4 or 2.5 instead?
[04:39] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: best thing is to just try I think
[04:39] <dromer> er, is that the _best_ thing?
[04:39] <dromer> I was hopeng advice from someone ith experience could help me better ;)
[04:40] <flyingyellowpig> hi there'
[04:41] <seishinbyou> Does the "windows" key have a function by default in KDE (am I missing something if I don't have that key?)
[04:42] <sercik> no it doesn't
[04:42] <seishinbyou> Okay then.  No loss
[04:42] <dromer> hmm, I really need python 2.3 I guess, the program can't run on 2.4 or 2.5 (which I already have installed ..)
[04:43] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: 2.3 hasn't been offered in the repos since the old Warty release.  I'd try to find a 2.3 deb from Google or something
[04:43] <flyingyellowpig> does anyone in here have tried fedora 7 or fedora core?
[04:43] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: do they offer a source tarball of the app instead of the deb ?
[04:44] <seishinbyou> why wouldn't you want the deb for (k)ubuntu?
[04:44] <amik> hi all, I have a question about Kate search/replace regex syntax
[04:44] <seishinbyou> dpkg -i (package).deb
[04:44] <seishinbyou> replacing what with what?
[04:44] <NiceGuyUK> seishinbyou: cos of dependency issues
[04:44] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: http://www.ballview.org/BALL/Downloads/BV-1.1.1/
[04:45] <amik> how do I specify a placeholder in the replace string if it's followed by a digit?
[04:45] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: ok, http://www.ballview.org/Downloads/Releases/BALL-1.1.1.tar.gz
[04:46] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: are you familiar with compiling from code or would you need help ?
[04:46] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: I _have_ done it before, but I don't do it that often, I could use some help yes ;)
[04:46] <NiceGuyUK> hmm, if its python, its not compiled anyway
[04:46] <NiceGuyUK> I'm downloading it to take a look
[04:47] <dromer> ok thnx :)
[04:47] <amik> for example, moving digits 3,4 in a 4 digit number to positions 2,3: "10([0-9] [0-9] )" -> "1\10"
[04:49] <nordseebaer> hi
[04:49] <seishinbyou> my mind is a blank for that; I'd just give up and use a perl/python script, but I'm funny that wayu
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> decided to bind win+k to konqueror.  it crashed kicker :\
[04:51] <sparrw> when i click a system tray icon and it opens/displays a window, i would like that window to appear on the current desktop.  is that possible at a WM/DE level?
[04:51] <sparrw> Daisuke_Ido: im still trying to figure out why two kubuntu installs from the same disc have different kde hotkeys.  one has alt+f2 for the run dialog, the other has win+r
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> that is odd
[04:54] <mo0osah> is there a disk management tool in kde
[04:54] <mo0osah> !disks
[04:54] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:54] <seishinbyou> like what, gparted?
[04:55] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: they hard-coded the dependency to a particular version.  You could edit the deb and make it more generic I suppose
[04:55] <mo0osah> no like just something to see how much space you have on your disks
[04:55] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: hmm, how could I do that? :$
[04:55] <NiceGuyUK> mo0osah: from a console, try df -h
[04:56] <sparrw> amik: good luck re kate regex...  its horrible
[04:56] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: I'd really like to try this software
[04:56] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: open the deb with Ark, extract control.tar.gz, open that with Ark, edit the file called control
[04:56] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: then archive it back up again
[04:56] <NiceGuyUK> messy, but it might work
[04:57] <amik> sparrw: thanx :-) but I'm just wondering if there's an undocumented way of doing it, or if it's a bug (I get an error message looking for placeholder number 10)
[04:57] <mo0osah> NiceGuyUK, thanks
[04:58] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: hmm :S
[04:58] <mo0osah> NiceGuyUK, there's nothing graphically equivalent?
[04:58] <dromer> maybe next time :S
[04:58] <mo0osah> !processes
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about processes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <amik> though maybe the fact that it's undocumented can be filed as a bug anyway...
[04:58] <mo0osah> !process manager
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <sparrw> amik: afaik, the entire regex part of kate is undocumented
[04:59] <seishinbyou> processes?  ps -ax
[04:59] <seishinbyou> paramaters vary
[04:59] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: in the source package is a debian folder, with an install script for making it from source
[04:59] <NiceGuyUK> might be easier
[05:00] <amik> sparrw: IM doing my best to migrate from Windows, but this system just has so many loose ends interfering with day to day work :-(
[05:00] <amik> this is just one small one amongst many
[05:00] <flyingyellowpig> Which one is better fedora core/7 or kubuntu?
[05:00] <sparrw> amik: i moved from textpad on windows to kate on linux, so everything was an improvement.  if youre used to something like ultraedit then youre in for a small step down  :(
[05:01] <Flosoft> hi
[05:01] <Flosoft> I want to add an Epson Stylus C66 to my printers
[05:01] <amik> sparrw: I actually used both TextPad and Notepad++. TextPad can do a whole lot of stuff I'm really missing (or were u referring to Notepad? no argument there...)
[05:02] <Flosoft> but when I want to add a printer connected to USB, what URI do I need to put in?
[05:02] <aaroncampbell> What do you guys use for downloading from SVN repositories?
[05:02] <sparrw> amik: i meant textpad.  what do you miss?
[05:02] <sparrw> Flosoft: hmm...  is it not being detected?
[05:02] <Flosoft> well no :S
[05:02] <Jucato> !away > Freejack_CSI
[05:03] <Flosoft> how can I check?
[05:03] <sparrw> amik: ridiculously undocumented and incorrect regex implementation is something i definitely dont miss from textpad
[05:03] <amik> sparrw: macros, marking lines in a search and then copying/deleting just those, and other stuff
[05:04] <amik> sparrw: I used regexes regularly there too - never had much of a problem
[05:04] <sparrw> you may want to consider kdevelop
[05:04] <Jucato> sparrw: this not enough documentation? http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kate/regular-expressions.html
[05:04] <sparrw> even for non-programming stuff, its a much more robust editor
[05:04] <amik> sparrw: so my 'quick' workaround is the kate textfilter plugin and learning awk from scratch...
[05:05] <Jucato> (funny thing is, KDevelop is actually just using Kate)
[05:05] <sparrw> no
[05:05] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: I'm close to a solution....
[05:05] <sparrw> kdevelop is NOT "using kate"
[05:05] <amik> sparrw: I find learning tools a good experience generally. but when I'm in a rush, learning new cli tools just takes a bit too long...
[05:05] <Flosoft> !printers
[05:05] <sparrw> they both use the kde editor element
[05:05] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:05] <Jucato> sparrw: it uses katepart
[05:05] <sparrw> just like kedit
[05:06] <Jucato> no
[05:06] <Jucato> kedit is very far from it all
[05:06] <sparrw> and what is katepart based on?
[05:06] <Jucato> kate/kwrite/katepart
[05:06] <sparrw> thats like saying kate uses konsole
[05:06] <Jucato> katepart isn't based on anything
[05:06] <Jucato> it's in kdelibs
[05:07] <Jucato> no, I'm saying that KDevelop, just like Quanta, is using the katepart in kdelibs, which is basically kate's, for the text editing/writing functions
[05:07] <sparrw> as to documentation...  thats actually news to me.  im glad they finally admitted that their implementation isnt compatible with anyone elses, although i had figured that out already
[05:07] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: wow thnx!
[05:08] <Flosoft> anyone able to help me detect my printer?
[05:08] <Flosoft> and install it?
[05:08] <amik> sparrw: oh yes, a few wierd backslashes here and there... but the docs iirc were full and consistent - I always ended up being able to do what I aimed to do
[05:09] <amik> btw I'm a noob but I do recall seeing somewhere that kwrite and kate use the same backend (so I just stuck with kate anyway)
[05:10] <Jucato> http://kate-editor.org/katepart
[05:10] <Jucato> amik: yes they do
[05:10] <Jucato> KDevelop, Quanta, KWrite, Kate
[05:11] <amik> anyway, for my particular daily tasks, textpad offers much more functionality. I know I can get more using classic command line tools and scripts, but it would be darn nice having them as a toolbar button in Kate.
[05:11] <Flosoft> what is the URI I need to enter for the USB printer?
[05:14] <amik> oh and another thing (maybe possible but I didn't figure it out yet) - in textpad was possible to save settings per document types
[05:15] <amik> e.g. for python files save tabs as spaces, but not for other files
[05:15] <amik> hehe... I said 'was possible'... I guess I'm already leaning more on the Kubuntu side than on Windows :-))
[05:18] <icecruncher> what do you type into the comandline to remove a broken program?
[05:18] <NiceGuyUK> icecruncher: kill
[05:18] <NiceGuyUK> !kill
[05:18] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:19] <icecruncher> i mena unistall
[05:19] <icecruncher> *uninstall
[05:19] <NiceGuyUK> icecruncher: how was it installed?
[05:19] <icecruncher> via terminal
[05:19] <icecruncher> but interrupted
[05:19] <NiceGuyUK> icecruncher: was it from source, from the repositories or from some other method?
[05:20] <icecruncher> NiceGuyUK: deb file
[05:20] <Jucato> icecruncher: the installation was interrupted? try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[05:20] <icecruncher> k
[05:21] <bassgoon> well, I'd have to say, that as far as I can tell, ubuntu still isn't ready for the average user
[05:22] <bassgoon> when I went to install gaim, it asked for the install cd, and it couldn't find the cd
[05:22] <bassgoon> I had to use term to mount it in /cdrom
[05:22] <seishinbyou> you didn't get it from the net?
[05:22] <bassgoon> well...when I used add programs...it wanted the disc
[05:23] <Jucato> maybe because he didn't have his CD-ROM repository disabled
[05:23] <Jucato> just as simple as that
[05:23] <seishinbyou> probably
[05:23] <NiceGuyUK> bassgoon: sounds like a quirk of you're setup rather than a Ubuntu fault as such
[05:23] <bassgoon> well...what I'm saying is that if an average user is going to use it...it should just work
[05:24] <seishinbyou> When I did an install without my ethernet cable plugged in, the default apt/sources list only had the CDROM as the source
[05:24] <NiceGuyUK> my mother uses it - it just works :)
[05:24] <seishinbyou> that was with Dapper *I think*
[05:24] <icecruncher> is broken or not fully installed
[05:24] <icecruncher> error when trying to reconfig
[05:24] <bassgoon> I mean...I dunno why it wouldn't mount the cd right
[05:24] <bassgoon> well...it was mounted right
[05:24] <NiceGuyUK> icecruncher: sudo aptitude remove --purge <program name>
[05:24] <bassgoon> just not where it was supposed to be
[05:24] <NiceGuyUK> icecruncher: then try reinstalling
[05:25] <tough> HI All
[05:25] <bigdad1e> whats a good program to emulate windows? besides wine
[05:25] <NiceGuyUK> bigdad1e: after WINE, you're better looking at virtualization rather than emulation
[05:25] <seishinbyou> bigdad1e: qemu or vmware if you want virtualization
[05:26] <bigdad1e> no i just want to use windows active sync for my phones
[05:26] <NiceGuyUK> bigdad1e: me too, its not gonna work for some time yet
[05:26] <bigdad1e> no?
[05:26] <bigdad1e> damn
[05:26] <NiceGuyUK> bigdad1e: there are some attempts to make it work natively, depending on what version of Smartphone you have
[05:27] <bigdad1e> hp 6515
[05:27] <NiceGuyUK> bigdad1e: as in Smartphone 2003 or SmartPhone 2005 for the OS
[05:27] <bigdad1e> i need to reinstall the rom so i can unlock it but ... i donno how to do it with linux
[05:27] <Jucato> bigdad1e: there are some things that could provide you with that function. try researching on opensync and synce
[05:27] <tough> bigdadle - there is an excellent virtual box I've used named VirtualBox - it works great and is free.
[05:28] <bigdad1e> ive tried all the sync programs for linux and could never get even one to work with my old nokia
[05:28] <Jucato> the thing is... in virtualization... the virtual OS will only be able to use hardware that is properly detected by the host OS (Linux)
[05:29] <tough> hmmm that's something i didn't know
[05:29] <NiceGuyUK> seishinbyou: it is USB, but newer windows Smartphones are detected as some kind of network device
[05:29] <bigdad1e> this is killing me
[05:30] <seishinbyou> That's kind of odd/neat.  I'll make a note to study that
[05:31] <rbrunhuber> maybe a complete dumb question: how do i grep for "---"
[05:31] <Jucato> I was able to browse my old windows smartphone using SynCE before..
[05:31] <bigdad1e> this is a newer phone and i need to install a updated rom on it
[05:32] <mo0osah> !vmware
[05:32] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:32] <seishinbyou> meh, it is half past midnight.  Time for bed.  Happy (K)ubuntuing
[05:32] <pag> rbrunhuber, try grep \---  or grep "---"
[05:32] <Jucato> whoa
[05:32] <Jucato> seishinbyou: what country?
[05:32] <seishinbyou> JP
[05:32] <Jucato> lol should have guessed :)
[05:32] <Jucato> +1 hour away
[05:32] <Jucato> oyasumi nasai!
[05:32] <seishinbyou> $B$*$d$9$_!A(B
[05:32] <rbrunhuber> pag: neither of them work
[05:33] <bigdad1e> well thanks im gonna go dig a hole nd put my head in it.. take care
[05:33] <stdin> rbrunhuber: grep "\---" or grep -- ---
[05:34] <stdin> or even grep \\---
[05:34] <rbrunhuber> stdin: thanks worked.
[05:34] <rbrunhuber> stdin: are you good with cron?
[05:35] <stdin> rbrunhuber: I just use kcron
[05:35] <amik> if anyone cares, I found how to set per-document-type settings in kate - lookup "kate variables"
[05:35] <stdin> Jucato: you could just /whois me
[05:35] <Jucato> stdin: yeah, but that wouldn't say that I'm subscribed to the ML, right? :D
[05:36] <stdin> heh, guess not :p
[05:36] <rbrunhuber> if i put a script with x bit in /etc/cron.hourly should this be executed then? how can i test this? how can i write to the syslog?
[05:37] <icecruncher> how can you find a folder or file and delete it in one command combo like locate file > rm -fr file?
[05:38] <stdin> rbrunhuber: yeah, if it's in the directory
[05:38] <stdin> icecruncher: maybe with xargs
[05:38] <rbrunhuber> stdin : but how can i test/proof this?
[05:40] <stdin> rbrunhuber: like "locate file| xargs echo rm-fr"
[05:40] <stdin> that will print the command it would do
[05:40] <stdin> remove "echo" to make it actually do it
[05:41] <rbrunhuber> stdin: sorry, meant how can i test that my script gets executed by cron.hourly?
[05:43] <stdin> rbrunhuber: put a script in the directorym like: 'echo "This works" > /home/me/log' then if that makes /home/me/log then it works (replacing /home/me/ with your home dir)
[05:49] <JuJuBee> I just re-installed ubuntu 7.04.  I want to add kde now.  What is the best/preferred way?  Installing kubuntu-desktop?
[05:50] <Jucato> if you want to get the Kubuntu defaults. yep
[05:50] <Jucato> JuJuBee: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[05:52] <stdin> I'd use aptitude tho, instead of apt-get
[05:54] <cyt> Any guys tried KDE4 Alpha 1?
[05:54] <JuJuBee> Oh yea, where is the restart & shutdown option?  When I hit the power icon there is no restart or shutdown...Nor is there the option at the login screen.
[05:56] <JuJuBee> What is the diff between using aptitude vs. synaptic?
[05:58] <Jucato> JuJuBee: aptitude is a command-line app. synaptic is graphical
[05:58] <JuJuBee> Same results?
[05:58] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: you still there?
[05:58] <JuJuBee> or is synaptic gui for apt?
[05:58] <stdin> JuJuBee: synaptic is a gui for apt, yes
[05:58] <stdin> !aptitude
[05:58] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[05:58] <Jucato> JuJuBee: yeah. synaptic is a gui for apt. aptitude is an alternative to apt
[05:59] <JuJuBee> I see, I will use aptitude then.
[05:59] <NiceGuyUK> JuJuBee: and adept is an alternative to synaptic :)
[05:59] <JuJuBee> I never got used to adept.
[05:59] <JuJuBee> Seemed too hard to find what I wanted...
[06:00] <Jucato> heh it's so easy :)
[06:00] <NiceGuyUK> not as easy for beginners as synaptic, but then its more powerful
[06:00] <Jucato> heh I find it easier to search in adept
[06:00] <Jucato> but the "response time" is a bit slower
[06:00] <stdin> a bit? :p
[06:00] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: yeah but I'm running out atm
[06:01] <NiceGuyUK> dromer, can you PM me with a contact email. I've fixed the deb for you
[06:01] <JuJuBee> So I guess I should install the kubuntu-desktop then ?  Some students  use kde some use gnome.  I dont want to limit either desktop env.
[06:01] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: wow, thnx !!
[06:01] <eeos> hi there. Prblem with videos from mobile phone (extension 3gp). I can play them with kaffeine, but cannot hear any sound. What is wrog with it?
[06:01] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: pm sent :)
[06:02] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: later
[06:02] <NiceGuyUK> I don't see the PM
[06:02] <lenscape> !growisofs
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about growisofs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <mo0osah> !superkaramba
[06:04] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[06:05] <JuJuBee> Is it ok to use synaptic to install simple things like a kde game or something like that or should I always use aptitude or adept?
[06:06] <Jucato> JuJuBee: use whatever you want
[06:06] <Jucato> :)
[06:06] <linenoise> growisofs is nice
[06:08] <balaji> hi friends
[06:08] <balaji> i have a doubt to clarify
[06:08] <balaji> is it possible to upgrade from kubuntu edgy to ubuntu feisty?
[06:09] <stdin> yes
[06:09] <linenoise> yes
[06:09] <stdin> !upgrade
[06:09] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:09] <balaji> i have the installation live CD for fiesty
[06:09] <JuJuBee> Any idea where my restart/shutdown options went off to?
[06:09] <linenoise> dangit.... stdin is too fast
 but i have kubuntu edgy and ubuntu fiesty
[06:10] <balaji> pls help
[06:10] <stdin> balaji: you don't need the CD
[06:10] <balaji> but my net is slow
[06:10] <stdin> balaji: just install "ubuntu-desktop" after you upgrade to install ubuntu
[06:10] <balaji> how?
[06:11] <stdin> balaji: just install the "ubuntu-desktop" package from Adept/Synaptic/apt-get/aptitude
[06:11] <chakie> has anyone noticed that a feisty on a system with an nvidia card is an order of magnitude slower graphically than edgy ever was? it's painfully slow. the nvidia-new driver is in use along with a stock kernel
[06:11] <balaji> that is after the upgrade or before?
[06:12] <Jucato> balaji:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[06:12] <stdin> balaji: either, but if you do it before the upgrade then it will have to be downloaded twice, so I'd install it after
[06:12] <esunder> is there any way to change my account settings or something so that i can stop typing sudo
[06:13] <esunder> i realize its for my own safety, but i think i know my way around enough to not f-up my install :D
[06:13] <stdin> esunder: if you want a root shell, type: sudo -i
[06:13] <balaji> but i tried upgrading using gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[06:13] <balaji> but i got some protocol errors and also GTk errors
[06:13] <esunder> i dont want a root shell, i want to stop having to type sudo all the time
[06:14] <esunder> i want to be root
[06:14] <stdin> esunder: you will be root in a root shell
[06:14] <_4strO> is there a way to recovery data deleted by a rm command ?
[06:14] <esunder> i realize that, but cant i just be root everytime i open a shell, regardless
[06:14] <stdin> nope
[06:14] <stdin> not really
[06:14] <stdin> not on a ext2/3 fs anyway
 how to upgrade using a CDROm
[06:15] <balaji> ?
[06:15] <NiceGuyUK> hope dromer got my message, time to go
[06:15] <chakie> i can't be the only one with a nvidia card?
[06:16] <chakie> when using 1920x1200 you have plenty of time to see the individual pixels get redrawn
[06:17] <esunder> chakie: ATI here ;)
[06:17] <_4strO> stdin: and if it's a FAT32 partition, how can I recovery the data ?
[06:18] <chakie> esunder: heh, i guess nobdy uses nvidia anymore
[06:18] <esunder> chakie: im surprised, supposedly nvidia supports beryl, etc better
[06:19] <chakie> esunder: well, with the crawling speed i see on my desktop the last thing i want is more effects to make it even slower
[06:19] <esunder> chakie: ive got my ATI with dual monitors/ 2560x1024 resolution and beryl running though
[06:19] <balaji> is it possible to save data and upgrade frm Kubuntu edgy to ubuntu Fiesty?
[06:19] <esunder> mine seemed slow too until i installed beryl actually
[06:19] <chakie> esunder: yum :)
[06:19] <chakie> edgy was much, much more snappy, so it's something that's fubar:ed when i updated to feisty
[06:19] <esunder> i think the XGL actually helps because my vid card is doing the graphical processing now
[06:19] <stdin> _4strO: don't know, you'll have to google it
[06:20] <esunder> chakie: if you have time you might want to try it, it did take me 2 whole days to get it working tho :(
[06:20] <_4strO> stdin: ok thx
[06:21] <chakie> esunder: i can't afford any new hw at the moment though
[06:21] <DJServers> hi all
[06:21] <DJServers> i almost lost my linux
[06:21] <esunder> chakie: im saying try beryl on your nvidia, what card do you have?
[06:21] <chakie> i'm actually contemplating moving back to edgy, this is so fscking slow it's not useful
[06:22] <chakie> esunder: a 6600, i think. and it was fast on edgy
[06:22] <esunder> chakie: wow, that should be plenty fast, how much ram/cpu power you got?
[06:22] <chakie> my working style depends heavily on switching virtual desktops for docs etc, and a 1s repaint each time isn't really normal
[06:22] <eeos> hi there. Problem with videos from mobile phone (extension 3gp). I can play them with kaffeine, but cannot hear any sound. What is wrong with it?
[06:23] <chakie> esunder: 1g, 2400+
[06:23] <chakie> esunder: so it's not that the hw should really be this slow, something has broken, but i can't find anything in wikis or bug lists
[06:23] <esunder> chakie: you should be fine, i dont know how to trouble shoot your situation but i would expect your system to handle it
[06:24] <chakie> esunder: yup, it's annoying though
[06:25] <DJServers> !baddivice
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baddivice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <DJServers> o lol
[06:26] <DJServers> !BadDevice
[06:26] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[06:27] <stdin> eeos: http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=156
[06:28] <DJServers> ehm... what is the command in the console to open xorg.conf?? and changing it? i forgot is
[06:30] <pag> DJServers, sudo <editor> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:31] <eeos> stdin: thanks!!!!
[06:32] <DJServers> pag that not the one i mean
[06:33] <DJServers> there is some command dont whit sudo but whit some other then you log in as root
[06:33] <pag> DJServers, hmm... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[06:33] <eXistenz> Hello, is it recommended to upgrade to feisty?
[06:34] <stdin> eXistenz: sure, it's the newest version
[06:34] <eXistenz> stdin: to upgrade or install afresh?
[06:35] <stdin> eXistenz: upgrade, unless you want a fresh install that  is
[06:35] <stdin> !upgrade
[06:35] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:35] <DJServers> !2screens
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 2screens - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <stdin> !dualhead
[06:36] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[06:36] <DJServers> !games
[06:36] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[06:40] <DJServers> !xampp
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <DJServers> some one nows xampp here?
[06:40] <DJServers> !mtaserver
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtaserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <DJServers> !BadDivice
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baddivice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <Jucato> !baddevice | DJServers
[06:44] <ubotu> DJServers: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[06:45] <JuJuBee> How do I restart my compuer if there is no restart button when I click the power button on the screen?  I cannot shutdown or restart.
[06:45] <Jucato> JuJuBee: log off first.
[06:45] <JuJuBee> There is no restart or shutdown option at the login screen.
[06:46] <JuJuBee> Shuld I just hit the power button on the box?
[06:46] <DJServers> lol
[06:46] <Jucato> JuJuBee: there should be. there's a menu in the login screen right?
[06:46] <Jucato> I'm not familiar with GDM (the login manager for GNOME)
[06:47] <JuJuBee> Yes, but no shutdown or restart... There used to be...
[06:47] <JuJuBee> Should I switch to kdm after installing kubuntu-desktop?
[06:48] <xxx_> zdar nejaky cech?
[06:48] <Jucato> !cz | xxx_
[06:48] <ubotu> xxx_: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[06:48] <Jucato> JuJuBee: if you want to be able to shutdown/restart from KDE. but you won't be able to shutdown/restart from GNOME I think
[06:49] <DJServers> !nl | DJServers
[06:49] <JuJuBee> What is causing this?
[06:49] <eeos> stdin: well, actually it does not solve my problem. Do not want to convert only to play the videos :(
[06:49] <mo0osah> !ftp
[06:49] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[06:49] <xxx_> a tam se dostanu jak?
[06:49] <mo0osah> !ftp server
[06:49] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[06:49] <Jucato> xxx_: English only please
[06:49] <DJServers> !webhosting
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webhosting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <xxx_> HOw i can jion czech canal????
 xxx_: ?esk u?ivatele ?dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. ?esky je mo?no se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. D?kujeme.
[06:50] <Jucato> xxx_: just click on the channel name
[06:51] <Cosmo__> someone had suggested sphinx to me as a speech to text replacement for dragon naturally speaking for dictation, anyone know much about it?
[06:51] <JuJuBee> Jucato : is there some reason I cannot restart/shutdwon from GNOME anymore?  Is this normal?
[06:52] <Jucato> JuJuBee: not really sure. but if you use KDM to start a GNOME session, you can only logout. if you use GDM to start a KDE session, same thing. But I thought they fixed that already
[06:53] <eeos> is there any good reason why ffmpeg is compiled without xvid support on kubuntu???? ($%$&$&$&!!!!)
[06:53] <JuJuBee> I haven't started a KDE session yet.  Still only have GNOME installed.  kubuntu-desktop is installing now...
[06:54] <DJServers> how to unpack a .tar.gz whit console?
[06:55] <DJServers> !.ta.gz
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ta.gz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <JuJuBee> DJServers : tar -xzf {filename}
[06:55] <DJServers> o ok
[06:55] <JuJuBee> without brackets...
[06:55] <DJServers> i now
[06:56] <Jucato> DJServers: use Ark?
[06:56] <DJServers> do i have to typ it like this? /home/frank/filename ??
[06:57] <ober0ne> hey, anyone have problems with USB mice in feisty?
[06:57] <eeos> !xvid
[06:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:57] <mo0osah> anywhere I can get information on the ftp servers?
[06:57] <mo0osah> in terms of freedom, ease of use, security...
[06:58] <ober0ne> my mouse stops responding at random, and I have to restart my compy to get it working again
[07:00] <DJServers> my sound is so butiful whit linux its very difrend then windows
[07:00] <ober0ne> any ideas?
[07:00] <DJServers> dont now
[07:03] <ober0ne> !mouse
[07:03] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:07] <DJServers> each  file i try to start whit console it says: cant find the file
[07:08] <DJServers> am i doning something wrong or?
[07:10] <eeos> !eclipse
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <ubuntu> hi, how can i install firefox in kubuntu 7.04?
[07:11] <ubuntu> eeos: what is your problem with eclipse?
[07:11] <anno_> easy
[07:12] <anno_> with  adapt remuve
[07:12] <stdin> ubuntu: either with Add/Remove Programs, Adept, or by doing "sudo apt-get install firefox" in konsole
[07:12] <vmuser> hi...i just installed kubuntu for the first time ever....i remember that i had to create a user account and its password...but what about the root account? what about that password?
[07:12] <stdin> !sudo | vmuser
[07:12] <ubotu> vmuser: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:12] <stdin> vmuser: you use _your_ password
[07:13] <vmuser> right....but what about when i  have to install something.... su
[07:13] <vmuser> whats that pass?
[07:13] <stdin> vmuser: you don't use su, use sudo
[07:13] <vmuser> it should not be the same as my user's
[07:13] <stdin> vmuser: sudo command
[07:13] <vmuser> right
[07:15] <vmuser> but cant u get root running su ? thats the problem..i want to be root ... but i have never given a password for that account when i installed kubuntu
[07:15] <stdin> vmuser: if you want a root shell, then do "sudo -i"
[07:15] <stdin> vmuser: you don't need a root password, it's more secure _not_ having one
[07:16] <jughead> How do you change the default application for items that are not listed under system settings?  System settings lists things like e-mail client and web browser, but not things like .mp3s or .wmv's.  I'd like VLC to open pretty much all of my media files.
[07:16] <stdin> jughead: in konqueror settings
[07:17] <jughead> ahh thanks stdin that makes sense
[07:20] <Sanne> jughead: you can also try to find things in kcontrol, the default kde control center, if you don't mind wading through multitude of config options ;)
[07:22] <defcon> sup
[07:23] <defcon> how do I make a menu item in kde menu editor for a terminal app to stay open
[07:23] <ubuntu_> defcon: don't end the program from what I know
[07:23] <defcon> it is ending it
[07:24] <defcon> it opens it and closes it
[07:24] <ubuntu_> Yeah I know :)
[07:24] <defcon> all cmd line apps, is there a argument to add
[07:24] <defcon> how do I keep it from closing
[07:24] <defcon> so I can input cmds
[07:24] <ubuntu_> What command is it?
[07:27] <defcon> any command
[07:28] <defcon> ive tried --noclose
[07:28] <defcon> doesnt workl
[07:29] <balaji> hi friends i have a fiesty fawn CD with me but i want to install this on a USB harddrive
[07:29] <balaji> how to do this can somebody give me all the steps
[07:29] <balaji> by the way USB harddrive has a space of 80 gb
[07:30] <balaji> ??
[07:31] <bch> try google
[07:32] <balaji> can anybody provide a opinion on my qn?
[07:33] <eeos> thanks everybody, have a nice evening!
[07:33] <genii> balaji I arrived afterwards. What was your question?
[07:33] <balaji> i have a fiesty fawn CD
[07:34] <balaji> how to install this on a USB harddrive with 80GB space how to do this?
[07:34] <arkanabar> I installed KDE and made it my default desktop.  Now I don't have the "Options" menu on my login screen that used to let me choose what kind of session I want ... how do I get it back?
[07:34] <mo0osah> is it easy to install vnc? is it graphical?
[07:35] <genii> balaji The installer should see the drive as a SCSI device eg: /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or so on. You should be able to install to that without an issue.
 yes u can install VNC from www.realvnc.com
[07:36] <balaji> my harddrive (USb) is not formatted as NTFS or FAt?
[07:36] <genii> balaji The installer will put the ext3 filesystem usually.
[07:36] <balaji> and how to boot from this drive?
[07:37] <guillermo> i've got a quiestion
[07:37] <guillermo> how does kubuntu, or linux in general trate virus?
[07:37] <genii> balaji You may want to make sure you have a recent bios which allows to look to usb devices for booting. If it does not you will need to put the boot manager (grub) onto floppy or the first regular hard drive
[07:37] <guillermo> is tehre any presintalled antivirus? or how does it work?
[07:37] <defcon> How do I keep my apps open and switch from kde to gnome
[07:37] <zzsputnik> !foo2zjs
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foo2zjs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <balaji> is this possible with a live cd install?
[07:38] <zzsputnik> i cannot install foo2zjs to my kubuntu 6.0.6
[07:38] <zzsputnik> 6.06
[07:39] <genii> balaji Yes, the livecd is also the installer cd. There is a shortcut on the desktop which does an install
 can u provide me with a documentation?
[07:40] <genii> balaji For installation to usb drive?
[07:40] <balaji> yes
[07:40] <ubuntu_> balaji: You can install it to your USB drive :)
[07:40] <ubuntu_> balaji: never used lInux before I'll guess?
[07:41] <ubuntu_> !virus
[07:41] <balaji> i use linux only but started very recently
[07:41] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:41] <genii> balaji There is no special method. You just do a normal install but put the files to the device it sees which is the usb drive. Normally this will be /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or so on
[07:41] <ubuntu_> defcon: You can have gnome on a different terminal
[07:41] <balaji> ok thank you
[07:42] <genii> balaji You are welcome
[07:42] <ubuntu_> !antivirus | guillermo
[07:42] <ubotu> guillermo: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[07:42] <balaji> oh yes i want toa ask u one more thing
[07:43] <balaji> is it possible to upgrade from Kubuntu 6.10 to ubuntu 7.04
[07:43] <genii> clamav/klamav frontend works fine but you need to make sure the freshclam part gets in first or it spits out errors
[07:43] <balaji> i have the CD for ubuntu thts why
[07:44] <genii> balaji Yes, there is a page for upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04 Would you like me to give you the link?
[07:44] <balaji> i have tried out various links but my problem is peculiar u see
[07:44] <balaji> kubuntu-ubuntu using CD?
[07:44] <balaji> and that too upgrade
[07:45] <genii> balaji Here is the standard ubuntu information page for upgrading: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[07:45] <JuJuBee> I got kubuntu-desktop finally installed.  When I log into my account (gnome for the moment) and try to run users and groups, I cannot. GDM not running.  I switched to KDE and in kcontrol opend user management and when I hit administrator mode, I get an error. tells me that the module failed to load.  problem due to an error during the last upgrade.
[07:45] <JuJuBee> or old 3rd party drivers lying around.
[07:47] <genii> balaji It does not matter if you have the ubuntu (gnome version) or the kubuntu (KDE version) of ubuntu. You can install either from either cd install. For kubuntu from a gnome install you put:   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop    and the reverse method for gnome install from a kubuntu cd
[07:47] <ubuntu_> JuJuBee: can You do users on the command line?
[07:48] <JuJuBee> never tried.
[07:48] <ubuntu_> genii: I think he was asking about upgrading
[07:48] <ubuntu_> I don't think that you can upgrade from either CD
[07:48] <balaji> yeah
[07:48] <anno_> hi guys i have a qwastion whou can i install wine on kubuntu?
[07:48] <ubuntu_> Well yeah technically you can but you have to download a slew of things after
[07:48] <ubuntu_> !wine
[07:48] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:48] <anno_> thx
[07:48] <genii> balaji Ah, OK. No, you cannot upgrade from the cdrom
[07:49] <ubuntu> genii: yes you can
[07:49] <genii> (unfortunately)
[07:49] <ubuntu> just no the Live Cd
[07:49] <ubuntu> not
[07:49] <JuJuBee> ubuntu_ : how do I manage users from command line?
[07:49] <genii> So Alternate then?
[07:49] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: how do you mean manage
[07:49] <balaji> wht is the alternate CD? its specified in the site
[07:50] <xxx_> Hi everbody
[07:50] <cox377_> does anyone know whree the php binary is kept
[07:50] <JuJuBee> If I want to add/remove/modify/change group memebership etc...
[07:50] <ubuntu> groupmod will modify/change
[07:50] <cox377_> i've checked / /usr/bin/php
[07:50] <genii> balaji The alternate cd is for putting the server version for instance, or a command-line only version, or for problemmatic machines which do not like the regular cd
[07:50] <ubuntu> groupdel will remove
[07:50] <cox377_> anyone?
[07:50] <ubuntu> groupadd does something but I forget what
[07:50] <genii> server version default install is command-line only by the way
[07:51] <ubuntu> cox377_: the php binary?
[07:51] <Sanne> cox377: default php install is as an apache module, so no binary, as far as I remember
[07:51] <balaji> ok thanks a lot for the info
[07:51] <cox377_> ubuntu: yeh i'm trying to set uo torrentflux and it states i must specify the path
[07:51] <balaji> do u have a registration with the ubuntu site?
[07:51] <cox377_> Path : php
[07:51] <cox377_> Specify the path to the php binary (/usr/bin/php):
[07:51] <JuJuBee> ubuntu_ : still, something is wrong if i cannot run the gui version, isn't it?
[07:51] <balaji> so that i can add u as a friend there?
[07:52] <genii> balaji: Yes, I am there with the same name as here
[07:52] <balaji> ok thnx
[07:53] <cox377_> anyone?
[07:53] <JuJuBee> This was a brand new install this morning.  How can it be broken already?
[07:54] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: Yep
[07:54] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: I'm going to look at that in a second
[07:54] <ubuntu> Just thought you needed to do something in a hurry
[07:55] <JuJuBee> ubuntu : thanks.  I got time...
[07:55] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: you should probably try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:55] <ubuntu> Should grab all missing libs etc
[07:55] <JuJuBee> I did aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[07:55] <JuJuBee> to get it originally
[07:56] <JuJuBee> Should I still do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[07:57] <azzco> Where should I go if I need help with tv-out/xorg config?
[08:02] <guillermo> anyone knows how to make amarok play stramingfiles
[08:02] <guillermo> like radio
[08:02] <anno_> hi i need help whyle instaling wine i gat the maseg (destroy/instal than some problems whyle downloading)
[08:03] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: can't hurt
[08:03] <ubuntu> azzco: Here I guess
[08:03] <boss>      .?
[08:03] <boss> hi
[08:03] <ubuntu> guillermo: click on the file
[08:03] <ubuntu>  !ru
[08:03] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:04] <anno_> ^_^
[08:04] <JuJuBee> ubuntu : did already, nothing to update.  Still problem with user management module...
[08:04] <tomg> hi all! anyone know of a sims 2 like game for linux?
[08:04] <anno_> hi i need help whyle instaling wine i gat the maseg (destroy/instal than some problems whyle downloading)
[08:04] <ubuntu> tomg: Sims2 :)
[08:04] <ubuntu> anno_: pastebin the error message
[08:04] <tomg> ubuntu: no go under wine
[08:04] <ubuntu> !paste | anno_
[08:04] <ubotu> anno_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:05] <ubuntu> tomg: Hmm. can't think of any off the top of my head
[08:05] <tomg> ubuntu: you could rack some votes up for it in the appdb if you wouldnt mind ;)
[08:05] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: What
[08:05] <ubuntu> 's the error the module gives you?
[08:05] <ubuntu> tomg: Don't lookit me :) join #winehq or #cedega :)
[08:06] <ubuntu> #cedega will be more sympathetic :)
[08:06] <tomg> yea but they want money lol
[08:06] <JuJuBee> Module could not load "error during last kde upgrade leaving orphaned control module" or "you have an old 3rd party module lying around"
[08:07] <tomg> so if anyone wants to vote sims2 at appdb.winehq.org..... it would be appreciated ;)
[08:07] <gnomefreak> tomg: please leave offtopic topics in #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:07] <routh> I need a hand from someone - I installed feisty, upgraded pmount, and installed ntfs-3g - but I can't access a USB hard drive I have - I get this error: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[08:09] <azzco> I'd like to clone my CRT to my TV, I only get Twinview ATM, Could someone lend a hand?
[08:10] <genii> routh Put in the /etc/fstab the option   user
[08:11] <routh> genii: the drive isn't in fstab as it's a removable USB drive
[08:12] <genii> routh Most likely it IS there, with a UUID number to ensure the proper device gets mounted
[08:13] <mc3> salve  a tutti
[08:13] <routh> genii: nope - not there - I would see /dev/sda1 somewhere - there are no sda drives?
[08:13] <JuJuBee> ubuntu : any ideas?
[08:14] <logixoul> Hi. How do I get the desktop-switching menu in the center of the screen?
[08:14] <Nicky> There should be two hardrives in my machine but I can only see one, how can I check if there are two?
[08:14] <genii> routh 1 moment I'll try to find where the hald stuff is
[08:14] <routh> genii: k
[08:15] <logixoul> Nicky: where did you see just one hdd?
[08:15] <Nicky> when I clicked on the home folder
[08:16] <Nicky> I have been told that I need to move my pictures from one disk to the other one, I just don't know how
[08:17] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: try apt-get purge kcontrol and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:17] <logixoul> Nicky: you can't see hard disks in your home folder. Try opening media:/
[08:17] <JuJuBee> K
[08:17] <Nicky> logixol, there I can see cdrom0, cdrom1, floppy0 and hdb1
[08:18] <JuJuBee> Invalig Operation purge
[08:18] <JuJuBee> *invalid
[08:19] <defcon> anyone try to run konversation in gnome
[08:19] <Nicky> The guy I bought the computer from said that there was two disks and that they were partioned or something like that
[08:19] <defcon> im having a problem where the server list wont close
[08:19] <defcon> in gnome
[08:20] <genii> routh Please tell what directories/files are in /etc/hal/  (use pastebin if large)
[08:21] <Nicky> I really would need to get my pictures ready so that I can print them, I have a shoot tomorrow morning and need to bring them with me..
[08:22] <Nicky> [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems
[08:24] <phoenixbyrd> Have you tried looking in hdb1?
[08:24] <Nicky> yes, the pictures I need is not there, they are on the other drive, my old one
[08:24] <phoenixbyrd> ah
[08:25] <logixoul> Nicky: what in your /dev/ dir begins with hd or sd?
[08:25] <phoenixbyrd> did you open the case and actually check if there are two?
[08:25] <Nicky> The guy I bought the machine from said that he put in my old disk in the machine but I cannot find any of the photos or documents now
[08:25] <Nicky> haha..I dont know how to open the machine
[08:25] <phoenixbyrd> o.0
[08:25] <phoenixbyrd> that should be common sense and a screwdriver
[08:26] <Nicky> there is nothing in the /dev that has hd or sd
[08:26] <r3> helo ... i have aborted one download by apt-get .. . since then , if i want to use it, it always wants to continue the old download first
[08:26] <r3> how do i cancel it
[08:26] <r3> ?
[08:26] <r3> pls
[08:26] <sercik> hi!
[08:26] <Nicky> Oops, sorry, there are things there
[08:26] <sercik> someone know hot to change permission of proc/bus/usb at every startup??
[08:27] <Nicky> hda, hda1, hda2, hda3, hda5, hdb, hdb1, hdb2, hdb5, hdc, hdd but most of them have a hanglock on them
[08:28] <phoenixbyrd> sudo konqueror ... idk
[08:29] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: sorry apt-get remove kcontrol --purge
[08:29] <Nicky> Now I almost broke a nail when I tried to open the machine
[08:29] <Nicky> Is there anyway to get my pictures without removing the disk?
[08:30] <ubuntu> Nicky: Mount the drives
[08:30] <Nicky> Now you are talking greek my friend
[08:30] <r3> helooo
[08:31] <ubuntu> Nicky: type mount on the command line and then pastebin it
[08:31] <ubuntu> !paste | Nicky
[08:31] <ubotu> Nicky: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:31] <ubuntu> r3: Hello
[08:31] <mo0osah> how do you make konversation your default irc client
[08:32] <ubuntu> !defaults
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about defaults - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <Nicky> that was easy
[08:32] <ubuntu> !default
[08:32] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[08:32] <venik> has anyone else gotten the error message: operapluginwrapper has failed  ?
[08:32] <ubuntu> Nicky: what was?
[08:32] <Nicky> this is the one I got from them http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21168/
[08:33] <venik> It has to do with the Flsh player plugin for Opera 9.2
[08:33] <Nicky> ubuntu, I can tell you that I did not understand one single word of what it did say though
[08:34] <r3> helo ... i have aborted one download by apt-get .. . since then , if i want to use it, it always wants to continue the old download first
[08:34] <azzco> I really need some help with cloned output..
[08:34] <r3> howto cancel pls ?
[08:34] <Nicky> r3, you can turn off the machine, that is what I would do
[08:34] <r3> ???????? how would this solve my problem ?
[08:34] <azzco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21165/ How do I give the two monitors the same image?
[08:34] <mo0osah> ubuntu: there aren't any protocols
[08:35] <mo0osah> ubuntu: i want to make konversation default app for irc protocol
[08:35] <ubuntu> Nicky: What's in /media/hdb1 ?
[08:35] <ubuntu> Not your files ?
[08:35] <Nicky> Do I have to pay for this support or how does it work?
[08:35] <ubuntu> mo0osah: Umm not sure
[08:36] <ubuntu> Nicky: Nope it's free
[08:36] <Nicky> ubuntu, that is nice
[08:36] <Nicky> There are files in that folder but not the ones I would need
[08:37] <Nicky> There is Launch Google Earth.lnk, ntldr, ntdetect, QuickTime Player.exe and a lot of other files
[08:37] <ubuntu> ok
[08:38] <aleksanteri> how can i remove a package installed with # make install?
[08:38] <ubuntu> Nicky: type sudo umount /mnt/hdb1
[08:38] <ubuntu> Nicky: there should be nothing in that folder after you type that
[08:38] <ubuntu> aleksanteri: make uninstall
[08:38] <aleksanteri> ok
[08:38] <Nicky> The pictures I have got from the agency is taken with some digital camera and there are videos of me as well
[08:38] <aleksanteri> where i do this?
[08:39] <ubuntu> aleksanteri: In the same folder you did make install
[08:39] <ubuntu> Nicky: The files are gone ?
[08:39] <azzco> Seriusly how do I get dual monitors with the same image?
[08:39] <aleksanteri> geez... already removed that folder :|
[08:39] <genii> aleksanteri: Actually the best way is to:  make dist-clean   or make dist
[08:39] <genii> (this clears any remnants of it out)
[08:40] <ubuntu> azzco: Xinerama I think
[08:40] <azzco> I mean cloned
[08:40] <aleksanteri> genii: already said that i had removed the folder
[08:40] <ubuntu> Nicky: after you did the sudo umount command type in the terminal
[08:40] <azzco> I have my TV like 2 meters from the CRT, so cloning is the only thing I'd want
[08:40] <Nicky> ubuntu, I gave this guy my old computer when I bought a new one, he said that he had moved the whole disk in to the new machine
[08:40] <ubuntu> sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb1 -o umask=0022
[08:41] <Nicky> he said that I have two disks but I don't know
[08:41] <ubuntu> Nicky: I know I'm mounting the drives for you
[08:41] <ubuntu> Nicky: You do
[08:41] <Nicky> it is asking for a password
[08:41] <Nicky> do I write the password he gave me?
[08:41] <ubuntu> that;s your password
[08:41] <ubuntu> that you used to login
[08:42] <Nicky> it said not found
[08:42] <Nicky> it said /hdb1 not found
[08:42] <genii> aleksanteri: You can re get the original tarball or whatever you used before, then put it like last time. Then do the make dist-clean then remove the folder again
[08:42] <genii> aleksanteri: Otherwise it's a case of trying to track all the stuff it put in whatever dir
[08:43] <aleksanteri> geez feared that
[08:43] <Nicky> A stupid question, but are there many girls asking stupid questions like this in here?
[08:44] <ubuntu> Nicky: somedays :)
[08:44] <Sanne> Nicky: it's not stupid, you're just new to this, don't worry :)
[08:44] <aleksanteri> hmm... i can't find a trace of it :/
[08:44] <ubuntu> Nicky: can you press up on the terminal and paste back what you typed here
[08:44] <ubuntu> I want to see why it
[08:44] <ubuntu> 's asking for /hdb1
[08:44] <genii> aleksanteri: Is the thing it made still running/causing grief?
[08:45] <Nicky> umount: /mnt/hdb1: not found
[08:45] <aleksanteri> hmm kbfx is still running
[08:45] <aleksanteri> that did it :P
[08:45] <aleksanteri> thx
[08:45] <ubuntu> Nicky: hmm ok
[08:45] <ubuntu>  Nicky do a ls /dev/hdb1
[08:45] <Nicky> haha, I found a picture but it is not my pictures, someone elses
[08:45] <Sanne> ubuntu, Nicky: wan't it /media/hdb1?
[08:45] <ubuntu> wait
[08:46] <Sanne> wasn't
[08:46] <ubuntu>  /media/hdb1
[08:46] <Sanne> :)
[08:46] <genii> aleksanteri: :) Remember to do the dist-clean before removing source code dir if you want all traces gone next time
[08:46] <Nicky> Sorry, what do I write? :)
[08:46] <aleksanteri> ok :)
[08:47] <Nicky> Atleast you can't blame me for being a stupid blone, I'm a brunette :)
[08:47] <ubuntu> sudo umount /media/hdb1
[08:47] <Nicky> ubuntu, it didn't say anything this time
[08:47] <Nicky> and that folder is empty now
[08:48] <ubuntu> Nicky: good
[08:48] <ubuntu> Nicky: sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb1 -o umask=0022
[08:48] <ubuntu> Nicky: sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022
[08:48] <ubuntu> media not Mnt :)
[08:48] <Nicky> so is that hdb1 his drive and mine is called something else?
[08:48] <aleksanteri> hmm.. brb
[08:48] <ubuntu> tell me what's in the folder now?
[08:49] <ubuntu> Nicky: I think that the hdb1 is your drive but maybe your C:
[08:49] <Nicky> It say that I have to describe the file when I typed that text
[08:49] <Nicky> like this: sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022
[08:50] <ubuntu> Describe?
[08:50] <ubuntu> Hmm
[08:50] <Nicky> He said something about my disk being a secondary disk or something like that
[08:50] <ubuntu> Nicky: change /dev/hdb2 to /dev/hb5
[08:50] <Nicky> second drive?
[08:51] <Nicky> Now I got some really weird text
[08:51] <ubuntu> pastebin it :)
[08:52] <Nicky> haha, I don't even understand the language
[08:52] <ubuntu> paste the output on the website I gave you earlier
[08:52] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:53] <Nicky> the whole system is in finnish and I don't understand finnish, how can I get it to english? :)
[08:53] <genii> nicky hda = primary hdb = secondary   numbers after eg: hdb5 is the partition on the drive
[08:53] <Nicky> My old computer was in english
[08:54] <Nicky> that website doesn't work now
[08:54] <Nicky> sorry, now it started and this is the page, but I don't know if makes any sense to you http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21170/
[08:55] <ubuntu> Hmm
[08:56] <ubuntu> ANyone speak finnish? :)
[08:56] <Nicky> I have a CD with the kubuntu text on it but I was told that if I use that one that I will loose my pictures, so I need to print them first and then I will try to run the blue CD to get this machine in english
[08:56] <genii> ubuntu Fluently but only when I'm roaring drunk unfortunately
[08:57] <Nicky> Someone told me that you can have many languages at the same time and simply switch between them, but of course I don't understand how to switch :(
[09:00] <ubuntu> :-)
[09:00] <chakie> ubuntu: sure
[09:00] <Nicky> Look, now I found something
[09:00] <ubuntu> Nicky:  is there anything in the /media/hdb1 folder now?
[09:00] <ubuntu> chakie: You speak finnish?
[09:00] <Nicky> It says: removing finnish language support :)
[09:01] <chakie> ubuntu: yeah
[09:01] <Nicky> Now, it is empty
[09:01] <Nicky> It says: Translations and language support for finnish has been removed, but it's still in finnish though :)
[09:01] <ubuntu> chakie: can you tell me what http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21170/ says ?
[09:02] <chakie> "2 /dev/hdb5 seems to be swap space, not attached"
[09:02] <chakie> "3 you must give the file system type"
[09:03] <chakie> not attached -> not mounted
[09:05] <ubuntu> Ah
[09:05] <ubuntu> :-)
[09:05] <Nicky> Do you think that the pictures that I have is gone?
[09:05] <ubuntu> No :)
[09:06] <ubuntu> the mount command that you ran before change /dev/hdb5 to /dev/hda1
[09:06] <Nicky> Thank you, I really hope that I can find them
[09:07] <Nicky> I don't understand what that means but I am happy that you do :)
[09:09] <mo0osah> how do you get bookmarks toolbar in konquer
[09:10] <ubuntu> Nicky: are those your files in /media/hdb1 now?
[09:10] <Nicky> No, it is still empty
[09:10] <Sanne> mo0osah: under settings/toolbars
[09:12] <mo0osah> I added some bookmarks
[09:12] <mo0osah> but the toolbar doesnt show up
[09:12] <Sanne> Nicky, ubuntu: sometimes you have to press F5 in konqueror to renew directory information.
[09:13] <Nicky> It is still empty, should I restart the computer?
[09:13] <ubuntu> Nicky: type mount | grep hda1
[09:14] <Nicky> nothing happened
[09:15] <Nicky> It is quite funny, I know nothing about computers but still I can type quite fast
[09:15] <ubuntu> :-)
[09:15] <ubuntu> ok then it didn't mount
[09:15] <Nicky> If you say so :)
[09:15] <markku> hmm
[09:15] <ubuntu> Nicky: what did you type?
[09:16] <Nicky> mount | grep hda1
[09:16] <ubuntu> Nicky: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022 ?
[09:16] <markku> what were kubuntus hardware reqs?
[09:16] <Nicky> in the black window
[09:16] <Nicky> should I type that text again? What you just wrote?
[09:16] <mrdlouisd> i lost the hdd in my laptop, so i use a live cd to rdp to my windows server until i can raise the funds to buy a new hdd, i rdped to my windows server regularly when i had a working hdd and the audio worked, it does not work since using the livecd is there an audio driver i have to install to get the sound to work?
[09:16] <routh> genii: I had to run out - did you ever find the hald stuff?
[09:17] <Nicky> I am sorry if I am bothering you, just let me know when you've had enough of me
[09:17] <genii> routh I found some stuff that may get you in the right direction
[09:17] <markku> start Kconsole. you can find it from system menu
[09:17] <Nicky> Now I got a text like this: /dev/hda1 on /media/hdb1 type ntfs (rw,umask=0022)
[09:17] <ubuntu> Nicky: naw I'm good
[09:18] <genii> routh Looks like where you put stuff like mount options for hal is in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi      or that dir anyhow
[09:18] <vaxo> hii
[09:18] <ubuntu> Nicky: whats in /media/hdb1 ?
[09:18] <Nicky> Now there are files there again, the same ones as before
[09:19] <pollyo> Hello
[09:19] <mo0osah> how do you make bookmark toolbar show up
[09:19] <Sanne> mo0osah: under settings/toolbars
[09:20] <ubuntu> the same?
[09:20] <ubuntu> What the same?
[09:21] <markku> hmm
[09:21] <markku> has anyone used xubuntu?
[09:21] <routh> genii: thanks
[09:22] <Nicky> It is still the same files as I saw before, the Google Earth launch, the ntldr file and lots of other things
[09:22] <ubuntu> really? :)
[09:22] <ubuntu> Cool
[09:22] <ubuntu> ok
[09:22] <ubuntu> sudo umount /media/hdb1
[09:22] <ubuntu> and then
[09:22] <genii> routh np. Here is a link in that area, tho not exactly what you are looking for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93669
[09:22] <ubuntu> Nicky: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022 ?
[09:22] <Nicky> with the question mark on the end?
[09:22] <markku> i installed xubuntu on really old computer and somekind reason desktops taskbars and toolbars wont show up at all
[09:23] <ubuntu> nope
[09:24] <Nicky> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[09:24] <Nicky>        missing codepage or other error
[09:24] <Nicky>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[09:24] <Nicky>        dmesg | tail  or so
[09:24] <genii> markku You will need at least about 128Mb of ram for it to run right
[09:24] <markku> i have
[09:25] <Nicky> Now it is in english again :)
[09:25] <genii> (or physical ram + swap space => 128)
[09:25] <markku> i think swap is atleast 390Mb
[09:25] <markku> i have 20Gb harddisk but somekind reason i failed to set up partions manually
[09:25] <markku> so i had to use guided
[09:26] <luca> hi everyone
[09:26] <Nicky> One of me girlfriends said that I should try to get my pictures from the old disk, move them to the new and then empty the old one, will that work?
[09:26] <luca> I have problem compiling kbfx 0.49.3
[09:26] <markku> hmm
[09:26] <markku> nicky that is possible
[09:27] <luca> says it cannot find kde3 headers and core library - even if I have installed the kde metapackage? O_o
[09:27] <mrdlouisd> i lost the hdd in my laptop, so i use a live cd to rdp to my windows server until i can raise the funds to buy a new hdd, i rdped to my windows server regularly when i had a working hdd and the audio worked, it does not work since using the livecd is there an audio driver i have to install to get the sound to work?
[09:27] <markku> you just have to connect old hard disk to same computer with new hard disk or upload them on internet packed as rar and load them from there
[09:27] <ubuntu> Nicky: hmm ok
[09:27] <Sanne> luca: are you compiling from source because of newer version?
[09:27] <ubuntu> Nicky: sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022
[09:27] <Nicky> I would really need to get the pictures tonight since I need to print them and give them to the agency tomorrow morning, otherwise I might loose this shoot
[09:28] <Nicky> /dev/hda5 looks like swapspace - not mounted
[09:28] <Nicky> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:28] <luca> Sanne: yep wanted to give it a try - although I also posted in the forums kindly asking someone better than me to create the package ;)
[09:29] <Sanne> luca: heh :). You most likely need some *-dev package of the one it's complaining about. Let me find you the package name.
[09:29] <ubuntu> Nicky: sudo mount /dev/hda3 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022
[09:29] <ubuntu> You have a lot pf swapspace
[09:30] <luca> Sanne: ok thanks a lot! :)
[09:30] <markku> hmm
[09:30] <Nicky> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:30] <markku> it says it is swap type?
[09:31] <Sanne> luca: try installing kdelibs4-dev. The description of the package looks like it's the one you need.
[09:31] <markku> well im not sure about mounting lol
[09:31] <ubuntu> Nicky: what did you have before windows or linux ?
[09:31] <markku> i even failed partioning
[09:31] <Nicky> markku, I just typed the line that ubuntu gave me and it replied: mount: you must specify a filesystem type, I don't know either :)
[09:31] <luca> Sanne: ok thx
[09:31] <Sanne> luca: you're welcome :)
[09:32] <luca> oh it also misses the dcoplib and dcoplib2cpp :$
[09:34] <Sanne> luca: try to find the name of the corresponding *-dev package for anything it complains about, either in adept/synaptic/apt-cache search, or at packages.ubuntu.com. If you don't succeed, shout :)
[09:34] <Nicky> Is this something that I can try and follow? http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html
[09:34] <Sanne> luca: usually those are libraries that start with "lib"
[09:35] <markku> hmm
[09:35] <markku> guess my 350Mhz, 128Mb ram computer is bit too old for linux too lol
[09:35] <Nicky> I think I had windows on the other machine I had
[09:36] <Nicky> But this Linux is much more difficult to use
[09:36] <Sanne> luca: oh, another tip! You can search for the build dependencies of the version in ubuntu, you most likely would need those packages to build your version. Let me get you the file. Yre you on feisty?
[09:36] <jhutchins> Nicky:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[09:36] <luca> yes
[09:36] <luca> the cmake however functioned :)
[09:37] <luca> trying to see about the make
[09:37] <Sanne> luca: ah, cool. I still get you the page, for educational purposes ;)
[09:37] <luca> ok thanks ;)
[09:38] <Nicky> haha, that really was like greek to me :)
[09:38] <luca> *sigh* watching the Punisher on tv...absolute ****, I mean, the comic was manichean, but the movie is even worse... :-/
[09:39] <Sanne> luca: at the end of the package page for kbfx (http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/kde/kbfx) in section "More information..." is a link called [dsc] . That's the package description file with the build deps: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kbfx/kbfx_0.4.9.2~rc4-1.dsc
[09:39] <alban_> Bonjour !
[09:39] <Nicky> jhutchins, do you know how I can find/move pictures from one disk to the other one?
[09:39] <alban_> Bon, je viens de me lancer dans Kubuntu ! Depuis hier
[09:39] <jhutchins> Nicky: Have you been able to mount the disk?
[09:39] <Sanne> !fr | alban_
[09:39] <ubotu> alban_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:39] <alban_> je suis un "total newbie" comme on dit, mais mon site prenant de l'ampleur j'ai du passer sur ddi, et donc me mettre  linux
[09:39] <luca> Sanne: thanks :)
[09:39] <alban_> Ho, sorry I just didn't see I was in an english chan
[09:40] <alban_> I can continue in english without so many problems
[09:40] <Sanne> luca: you're welcome :)
[09:40] <Nicky> I don't know, obviously ubuntu told me that it didn't work, but I don't know
[09:40] <alban_> so : I'm a real newbie int he linux world. I've just installed Kubuntu last night
[09:40] <WillLuongo> How can I restart dhcpd from the command prompt?
[09:40] <alban_> The apt-get install amsn doesnt visibly work. What should I do to install it ?
[09:41] <keith> hi, when I press Alt + left mouse button, I can move whatever window I have on top.  Is there a way to disable this?
[09:41] <Nicky> I am not very technical at all, but I really need to find my pictures
[09:41] <jhutchins> Nicky: Why don't you know where they are?
[09:41] <WillLuongo> alban_: did you look in adept?
[09:42] <aro> Anyone recommend a good ssh client?
[09:42] <jhutchins> Nicky: I can probably help you, but you have to be willing to answer my questions.
[09:42] <alban_> WillLuongo: Yep, it's not in it too :(
[09:42] <WillLuongo> aro: the default ssh is very nice for linux, for windows I recommend putty
[09:42] <Nicky> jhutchins, I will explain it from the start, so hopefully it makes sense
[09:42] <alban_> aro : I just use the ssh command. But that's my first day on linux, so it can be a little bit.. boring
[09:42] <alban_> :D
[09:43] <aro> :)
[09:43] <Sanne> keith: yes, go to system settings/desktop/window behaviour
[09:43] <alban_> Did someone installed amsn on kubuntu ?
[09:43] <WillLuongo> alban_: Do you have multiverse and universe in your repositories list?
[09:43] <KiPSeRoN> somone can help me i install beryl in kubuntu and when i change to the beryl window manager its just dont open the windows manager and i stay with no windows manager and i back agein to kwin and its working well
[09:43] <KiPSeRoN> ?
[09:43] <luca> Sanne: uhrm.
[09:43] <alban_> WillLuongo: I saw that on ubunut website, but i didn't understand how to do it
[09:43] <_StefanS_> KiPSeRoN: try #ubuntu-effects
[09:43] <luca> Sanne: I have installed with no problems, but I do not have the applet for the menu, which means it is useless :-/
[09:43] <keith> sanne: thanks
[09:44] <WillLuongo> alban_: go into adept
[09:44] <Sanne> keith: then click the tab "Window Actions", "Modifyer key + left button"
[09:44] <alban_> WillLuongo: ok, i'm in it. and ?
[09:44] <Sanne> keith: I set the modifyer key from ALT to META, so I can move windows with the windows key.
[09:44] <WillLuongo> alban_: then click manage repositories in the adept nmenyu
[09:44] <WillLuongo> menu even
[09:45] <ubuntu> Nicky: yes
[09:45] <Nicky> I bought a new computer from a guy and he took my old one, then he said that he moved the old disk to the new machine, but now I can't find my pictures and documents from that old disk
[09:45] <WillLuongo> alban_ then just check universe, restricted, and multiverse.
[09:45] <ubuntu> jhutchins: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21168/
[09:45] <Sanne> luca: is it an applet? If so, you may need to restart x (I'm not sure though=
[09:45] <ubuntu> That's her mtab
[09:45] <luca> Sanne: ...... if I check the kbfx package details I have only two files, one of which is a DEB!!! O_o
[09:45] <jhutchins> Nicky: fdisk -l will show all the available partitions.  Put them in a pastebin.
[09:46] <Nicky> nothing happened when I typed fdisk -l
[09:46] <ubuntu> I've figured out that most anything with a 5 is swap
[09:46] <Sanne> luca: it's the the link [dsc] 
[09:46] <Sanne> luca: at the far bottom of the page
[09:46] <jhutchins> Nicky: Sorry, sudo fdisk -l
[09:46] <alban_> WillLuongo: a search on "universe" does'nt match any result. But for "restricted", i've got : ubuntu restricted extras"
[09:47] <alban_> do I install it ?
[09:47] <Nicky> and the password that he gave me?
[09:47] <Sanne> luca: in this line: Source Package: kbfx, Download: [dsc]  [kbfx_0.4.9.2~rc4.orig.tar.gz]  [kbfx_0.4.9.2~rc4-1.diff.gz] 
[09:47] <ubuntu> Nicky: yes
[09:47] <jhutchins> Nicky: Your regular password
[09:48] <alban_> WillLuongo: Click on manage what ? I don't see any management on the menu
[09:48] <Nicky> I put that text here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21178/
[09:48] <WillLuongo> alban_: In adept, click the adept meny
[09:48] <WillLuongo> alban_ then click manage repositories
[09:48] <luca> Sanne: ok what do I do of this? 'cause that tells me nothing :) sorry but really I am trying this out of fun more than sense, given that I seldom compile ;)
[09:49] <alban_> I've just got "quit" on "adept" menu
[09:49] <markku> yay
[09:49] <markku> taskbar works now
[09:49] <markku> lots of work to get it work
[09:49] <Ace2016> did google just update its look for searches?
[09:49] <gilles> hi everyone, does anyone has a link to download the CGWD Themer ?
[09:49] <WillLuongo> alban_: you should have "Fetch Updates" and "Manage Repositories"
[09:49] <Sanne> luca: this dsc file has a line "build depends" that tells you what ubuntu needed to compile the package. Chances are, when you build a newer version, that you would need those packages also. Good way to find what you have to install.
[09:50] <alban_> i've just got "quit" :/
[09:51] <jhutchins> Nicky: Your pictures are probably on /dev/hda1 - can you boot to windows?
[09:51] <luca> hrum. Sanne: I guess I will wait for techies to build it for me, or so I am tempted ;)
[09:51] <routh> genii: I can't find anything on what should be in that file
[09:51] <Nicky> jhutchins, one of my girlfriends suggested that I should move all of my pictures and documents to the new disk and then empty the old one. I've been told it's possible, but how do I even now where all the files are? And again, sorry for being so completely retarded when it comes to computers
[09:52] <Sanne> luca: you can also automate this. You would enable the source repositories in your sources.list and do: apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[09:52] <WillLuongo> alban_: I don't really know why you would only have quit.
[09:52] <Sanne> luca: that would pull those build dependenceis automatically.
[09:52] <luca> uhm ok I am trying it
[09:52] <Sanne> luca: I hope I didn't overload you now ;)
[09:52] <jhutchins> It looks like your windows partition is /dev/hda1 (not hdb).
[09:52] <WillLuongo> alban_: are you using the Adept Manager in the System menu?
[09:52] <Nicky> I don't know, how would I check if I can boot to windows, do I just restart the system?
[09:53] <luca> Sanne: nah I already used apt-get ;)
[09:53] <jhutchins> !ntfs | nick
[09:53] <ubotu> nick: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:53] <Sanne> luca: as for kbfx not showing up, did you get my suggestion of restarting x?
[09:53] <genii> routh I had difficulties finding much on it as well. Right now am not on a *nix box so cannot do something like man hal    or so :(
[09:53] <phpcode> how can i get a valid ident on Konversation?
[09:53] <alban_> WillLuongo: Yes ! Add and remove programs"
[09:54] <alban_> Ho no !
[09:54] <routh> genii: I wish I could just find the one that comes with the base install of dapper - USB hotplug worked perfect on a new install of dapper
[09:54] <alban_> I was in adept installer
[09:54] <jhutchins> Ok. that's it.  I'm tired of people who ask questions and can't even sustain an intelligible dialog.  I have other things to do.
[09:54] <WillLuongo> alban_: I was kind of wondering if that was the case
[09:54] <WillLuongo> lol
[09:55] <genii> routh you have dapper/edgy/feisty?
[09:55] <luca> Sanne: not yet in any case done the build-dep
[09:55] <alban_> WillLuongo: the uni, multiverse and restricted were already crossed
[09:55] <luca> Sanne: now what? do I rerun cmake, make, checkinstall?
[09:55] <routh> genii: grr - I tired manually mounting the file by adding it to fstab and it tells me I don't have access rights - I have fiesty
[09:56] <Sanne> luca: if you already compiled successfully, you don't need to again. That was just so that you know about those tricks in the future (sorry, should have said it clearer...)
[09:56] <luca> oh ok but still...well, restarting x, but I have no luck ;)
[09:56] <genii> routh I'm seeing also something about using Automatix will mess up automounting ntfs drives. Did you use automatix recently?
[09:57] <WillLuongo> alban_: now just type amsn into the little filter thing
[09:57] <luca> mean, no faith
[09:57] <luca> back in a second :D
[09:57] <alban_> nothing
[09:57] <alban_> WillLuongo: it doesn't match anything
[09:57] <routh> genii: yeah I used automatix to add codecs and software after install - however the automounting wasn't working before I used it...
[09:57] <WillLuongo> alban_: try hitting fetch updates
[09:58] <routh> genii: trust me I tried - all my music is on this usb drive - I need tunes man - lol
[09:58] <genii> routh I hear ya :)
[09:58] <luca> Sanne: I was right :(
[09:58] <alban_> fetch updates ? where
[09:58] <alban_> ?
[09:58] <vbgunz_> !uuid
[09:58] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[09:58] <alban_> ho wait
[09:59] <alban_> it downloads somethging
[09:59] <Nicky> I followed the advice that jhutchins gave and now there is a hda1 in the /media folder, but it's empty. The /hdb1 is still there and it contains the same files as previously
[09:59] <ubuntu> hi to everybody!
[09:59] <alban_> ok i've found it
[09:59] <alban_> the bibliaries were obsolets
[09:59] <genii> routh Well, if Automatix is the cause of it,  there may be something enlightening herefor you: http://www.getautomatix.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=863    otherwise I'm outta immediate ideas
[10:00] <routh> genii: I'l lhave a look
[10:00] <Sanne> luca: sorry to hear that. I'm out of ideas then, unfortunately, and I also need to run now. Hopefully another one can continue helping you, good luck :)
[10:00] <luca> thanks :)
[10:00] <luca> Sanne: trying to remake the whole procedure, who know ;)
[10:01] <Sanne> luca: good luck, I'll be back in about an hour. Will chekc on you then.
[10:01] <luca> ok thanks ;)
[10:01] <jaims> hello all
[10:02] <ubuntu> does anybody wanna chat?
[10:02] <jaims> does anyone have been able to use the cube thing with the touchpad of a laptop?
[10:03] <jaims> compiz
[10:03] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu: if you just want to chat, you're best off going to #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <ubuntu> asas
[10:06] <toma> ubuntu: i thought you needed a hand in here
[10:07] <toma> hmpf
[10:09] <alban_> Waw. I'm gonna try to synchronise thunderbird and firefox on my vista and kubuntu
[10:12] <ubuntu> !adept crash fix
[10:12] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:12] <Daisuke_Ido> someone mentions vista, they become persona non grata :)
[10:15] <sayers__> When I maximize things they still allow me to stretch them.......
[10:15] <routh_> Well that got me nowhere - I'm still getting the message that hald is refusing access to the USB drive for user 1000
[10:16] <alban_> Hm.
[10:16] <alban_> How can I change my screen resolution ? It does'nt seems to be like in windows( right click on the desktop)
[10:17] <nimble> kmenu>system settings>monitor & display
[10:18] <Daisuke_Ido> alban_: that's because it isn't windows :)
[10:18] <Daisuke_Ido> try ctrl-alt-+ or -
[10:18] <phpcode> how to install ident server?
[10:18] <genii> alban_: Use ctrl-alt then + or - keys
[10:18] <aleksanteri> hey how can i change the kde's program keyboard button associations?
[10:18] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: heh :)
[10:18] <aleksanteri> like i have a "calculator" button here
[10:18] <aleksanteri> but i want to change it's association to kcalc
[10:19] <marko> alban:from where are you
[10:19] <aleksanteri> as me thinks kcalc is better than speedcrunch ^__^
[10:19] <nimble> speedcrunch seems quite unstable
[10:19] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: BTW I had someone ask about changing ctrl-alt-+ and ctrl-alt--   to just ctrl-alt + and ctrl-alt - the other day LOL
[10:20] <Daisuke_Ido> genii: i think that just made my head explode
[10:20] <alban_> genii: I've tried but it doesn't work( i'm on a laptop : no pad)
[10:20] <marko> alban: in system settings you can change the resolution
[10:20] <Lectus> Hello
[10:21] <Lectus> I just installed Kubuntu, but the system is all in english. How can I change it to portuguese?
[10:21] <larry> hey all
[10:21] <genii> alban_: For laptops usually they have a function key (FN) that if you just hit that no other keys in F1-F8 range then it turns on the numpad up around the uiop jkl nm area
[10:21] <Black_Cat> Lectus, KMenu - System - Language Selector
[10:22] <Lectus> Black_Cat: I do it. But portuguese does not appear on the list.
[10:22] <marko> Lectus run adept and search for portugal
[10:22] <larry> has anybody gotten  crossover linux  to work on ubuntu?
[10:23] <marko> you will find localisation pakages
[10:23] <alban_> I've just tried again with the function key
[10:23] <alban_> it didn't work
[10:23] <chris_scummette> !register
[10:23] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:23] <Black_Cat> Lectus, it's strange.  see Portuguese there
[10:24] <Black_Cat> * I see
[10:24] <luca> Sanne: for when you're back...unsuccessful. Dunno why, I am giving it up :P
[10:24] <marko> where can i find the Desktop efects in 7.04
[10:24] <frode_> rei rei....
[10:25] <genii> alban_: Then use marko's suggestion :)
[10:25] <alban_> Ok i've found the thing in the system settings
[10:25] <alban_> but the max resolution i canput it 1024*768 ? Why ?
[10:25] <alban_> Is my graphic card not recognized ?
[10:25] <jaims> marko: you have to install either compiz or beryl
[10:25] <Lectus> Black_Cat: Last time I checked Kubuntu I was able to select portuguese. Now I think because I installed without the internet connected at installation time it doesn't have portuguese support neither at Adept.
[10:25] <jaims> for my personal liking, i prefer beryl
[10:25] <marko> alban: which card you use
[10:25] <alban_> ATI X1400
[10:26] <alban_> or stuff like that
[10:26] <marko> you need the ati drivers
[10:26] <alban_> apt-get ?
[10:26] <alban_> Or.. ?
[10:26] <marko> yep
[10:26] <cpk1> Lectus: you should still be able to install it
[10:26] <Black_Cat> Lectus, personally i installed Dapper 6.06 from LiveCD, with no internet connection, and the language list seems to be complete.
[10:26] <alban_> apt-get ati ?
[10:27] <alban_> (that doesn't work.. I've guessed :P )
[10:27] <genii> !ati > alban_
[10:27] <lz1gjd> could any1 tell me how to get the wireless card on a dell inspiron 1501 working ?
[10:27] <larry> does anyone know where i can get the  32bit compatibility libraries
[10:27] <Lectus> Yes. Same here. Dapper, with no connection at installation time, without portuguese language. The only language is english. And I selected portuguese at the installation program.
[10:29] <alban_> thanks genii
[10:29] <alban_> i'll take a look at this
[10:29] <alban_> it will be a little bit difficult cause y english is'nt so good
[10:29] <alban_> by i'll find :D
[10:29] <genii> alban_: Best luck
[10:31] <jaims> bye all
[10:31] <lee_> hi
[10:32] <lee_> How would I go about changing the volume label of a USB disk in Ubuntu?
[10:35] <Solifugus> Question: How can I make vi provide colored code on kubuntu ?
[10:36] <aleksanteri> Solifugus: <escape> + :syntax enable
[10:39] <Lectus> Help me! Can't get Kubuntu to any language other than english!
[10:39] <Solifugus> aleksanteri: So if I put ":syntax enable" alone on a line in "~/.vmrc", it will be automatic?
[10:40] <aleksanteri> hmm
[10:40] <aleksanteri> put "syntax on" there
[10:40] <Solifugus> aleksanteri: I know the original vim sources from the maintainers have it on by default... don't know why distros always mess things up like this..
[10:41] <aleksanteri> they do? :O
[10:41] <aleksanteri> woh
[10:41] <cj_> hey guys, i just bought a new cpu/heatsink/fan - do i need to apply cooling paste when the heatsink already has white grease on it?
[10:43] <Daisuke_Ido> cj_: it's pre-greased, but i don't like to use what's provided.  i thoroughly clean the heatsink contact surface and use arctic silver v instead...
[10:43] <Daisuke_Ido> but you can use what's already on there
[10:44] <Lectus> I can't set Kubuntu to portuguese. Anyone?
[10:45] <phal_> hi, how can i always keep my icons vertically aligned? is there any way to do it?
[10:45] <Ayabara> how can I control the font of kde apps when I'm in gnome?
[10:46] <Daisuke_Ido> Lectus: in system settings, go to regional and language
[10:46] <Daisuke_Ido> then install new language
[10:47] <Daisuke_Ido> potuguese is there
[10:48] <Lectus> Daisuke_Ido: I've done it. But english is the only language there.
[10:49] <Daisuke_Ido> did it install all of the language components?  because it seems to be taking quite some time
[10:50] <Lectus> Well, when i installed kubuntu I wasn't connected to internet. Maybe it didn't download the language packs?
[10:51] <Daisuke_Ido> no, it didn't, you have to install them
[10:51] <Lectus> but the problem is I can't download and install it either
[10:51] <Daisuke_Ido> and it has to download it all
[10:51] <Daisuke_Ido> why not?
[10:51] <Lectus> it doesn't appear at adept
[10:52] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not installed from within adept, it's installed from within the regional settings control panel
[10:52] <Daisuke_Ido> not "add language"
[10:52] <Daisuke_Ido> "install new language"
[10:53] <Lectus> where is the "install new language"?
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> at the bottom of the locale box
[10:53] <Synt> hello
[10:53] <larrywho> hey
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> [Install New Language]  [Uninstall Language]  [Select System Language] 
[10:54] <Lectus> I can't see it here
[10:54] <larry> what are some good programs for ubuntu?
[10:54] <Synt> can help me anybody? i have a great problem with the beryl-skydome
[10:55] <Lectus> I go to system settings/regional & accessibility, but no "install new language"
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7945/snapshot2al6.png
[10:55] <bolson> i have problem with ubuntu install (blurry screen)
[10:56] <Daisuke_Ido> Synt: bear in mind that width must be a multiple of height
[10:56] <Daisuke_Ido> 1024x512 works well for a skydome
[10:56] <phal_> how can i always keep my icons vertically aligned? is there any way to do it?
[10:56] <Lectus> Daisuke_Ido: Mine is different. I don't have the buttons at the bottom.
[10:56] <bolson> NEED HELP pm me
[10:56] <Lectus> Maybe I should do a upgrade?
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> are you using feisty or edgy?
[10:57] <elias> Is there a way to get "wall" messages to be displayed in KDE?
[10:57] <Lectus> dapper
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> oh.
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> well then.
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> let me look a bit
[10:57] <Daisuke_Ido> see what i can find
[10:57] <Lectus> I installed dapper because I had the CD. But I'm planning on installing feisty as soon as the new CD arrives.
[10:58] <Ich> http://pastebin.ca/491775
[10:58] <Ich> i'm having a problem updating my system
[11:00] <phal_> >>>>> how can i always keep my icons vertically aligned? is there any way to do it?
[11:00] <Daisuke_Ido> AH!
[11:00] <phal_> nobody knows?
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> phal_: asking your question repeatedly is a bit rude.  wait a few minutes.  icon alignment isn't critical.
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> now.
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Lectus: try this: sudo apt-get install language-support-pt
[11:01] <Synt> can anybody help me? i have a great problem with the beryl-skydome. i cant use any .png format, the skydome is currently white
[11:02] <phal_> sorry but it goes upwards and disappears
[11:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Synt: check your size, check your dimensions, but that's more a question for #ubuntu-effects
[11:02] <Lectus> Daisuke_Ido: it can't find the package
[11:03] <yoyodncn> With the wirless manager is there support for enterprise wpa w/Tkip with leap
[11:03] <nimble> do: sudo apt-get update and then the other command again
[11:04] <routh> gentii: well after all the messing around I did - the best I could get was using 'pmount /dev/sda1 /mount/usbdisk' to be able to at least read the drive - I'll be damned if I can get it to automount or get RW access though
[11:04] <amigrave> hi all, is it normal that mysqlcc is not in kubuntu feisty ? Is there a deb package somewhere for it ?
[11:05] <Synt> get
[11:05] <Daisuke_Ido> Lectus: it definitely exists in main under dapper
[11:06] <Hrontore> hey i was wondering how to reset the kmix eq settimg
[11:06] <Hrontore> hey i was wondering how to reset the kmix eq settings
[11:06] <Daisuke_Ido> phal_: your best bet is to look under the "icons" bit in the desktop context menu
[11:07] <Daisuke_Ido> there's nothing there to permanently do it, but there's a "lock in place" option
[11:07] <phal_> yes i found it but i think there is no option like "keep aligned"
[11:07] <Daisuke_Ido> align to grid is the best there is, i believe :\
[11:08] <phal_> ok i search for it later then thanks
[11:08] <cox377_> does anyone here use azureus?
[11:08] <Daisuke_Ido> cox377_: i'm a ktorrent man myself :)
[11:09] <cox377_> Daisuke_Ido: got this problem with using the swing plugin, when i log into azureus web interface via firefox it runs on java
[11:09] <cox377_> and i just get java applet failed
[11:10] <Daisuke_Ido> err, i have no idea, like i said, i use ktorrent...
[11:23] <Lectus> Daisuke_Ido: Still can't get the language set. I'm afraid I'll have to do a reinstall. =\
[11:24] <amigrave> is there a Qt or Kde program in order to manage mysql database in kubuntu repositories ?
[11:25] <vbgunz> clear
[11:26] <vbgunz> is there a way to automatically nice certain processes? e.g., tar and gpg always drag down the system. they're very intense. Can I automatically nice them to 19 when ever they pop up?
[11:31] <BluesKaj> well, I dumped windows , and expanded the whole drive as an ext3 partition. However now the bootloader grub shows an error ..unable to mount partition ... any suggestions ?
[11:31] <gesc> hello
[11:32] <gesc> can someone help me? i have a question about open-xchange
[11:32] <aleagle> ohi
[11:32] <aleagle> Hi all
[11:32] <gesc> hi
[11:32] <varitech> tengo un problema con mi distro a ver si me pueden ayudar
[11:33] <elias> how can I send a message to all X users on the local X-server?
[11:33] <varitech>  instale beryl y cuando lo inicio se me desaperecen los bordes de las ventanas
[11:33] <aleagle> Ka Shqipetar ketu
[11:33] <aleagle> There is any Albanian
[11:34] <varitech> soy de venezuela
[11:34] <aleagle> C'e qualche Albanese
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> !english
[11:34] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:34] <aleagle> I just installed my Kubuntu
[11:34] <aleagle> it's fantastic
[11:34] <varitech> ok
[11:34] <varitech> thanks
[11:35] <Daisuke_Ido> no problem
[11:35] <aleagle> I used windows xp before
[11:35] <varitech> no spking spanish?
[11:35] <varitech> speaking spanish?
[11:36] <Black_Cat> !kubuntu es
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <Black_Cat> !es
[11:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:36] <JonTec> hey, guys I have a problem
[11:36] <aleagle> up Ubunto Linux
[11:36] <JonTec> X dies when I start, it just started to happen
[11:36] <varitech> thanks very much
[11:36] <aleagle> down Windows
[11:37] <Daisuke_Ido> JonTec: me too, my parole officer is very angry with me
[11:37] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, not that kind of problem :P
[11:37] <Daisuke_Ido> did you update something?
[11:37] <JonTec> when I login, I just get a black screen, I haven't changed anything in xorg.conf and nothing has been changed on my system: it's been normally operating
[11:38] <Daisuke_Ido> things don't "just happen", there is, without exception, some change that caused the behavior of the system to change (doesn't mean you did anything, could be a hardware problem, something esoteric like that)
[11:38] <Daisuke_Ido> and that was completely the wrong word
[11:38] <Daisuke_Ido> bleh :\
[11:38] <Daisuke_Ido> you haven't done any kernel updates, software updates?
[11:39] <JonTec> Daisuke_Ido: nope, I've had 7.04 installed for about one-two weeks now.
[11:39] <JonTec> yes, I know how, but I checked its last change date, and that was back in January
[11:43] <luca> hi again
[11:44] <luca> Sanne: given up, did not function :(
[11:44] <Sanne> luca: oh, sorry to hear.
[11:47] <JonTec> yeah, I've backed up my xorg.conf file, but I'd prefer if I didn't have to reconfigure xorg... I don't think it's X, it may be kdm
[11:47] <JonTec> !x-hangs
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-hangs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <luca> Sanne: yeah I do not understand why it does not function, but nothing I did provided anything usable
[11:50] <luca> Sanne: which does not mean much considering my low-proficiency ;)
[11:50] <JonTec> can anyone help me with my problem? X hangs (there's something on ubotu about this someplace) after I log in. I've done nothing out of the ordinary on my system: I've restarted several times today and I just got this problem when I booted up here at the house.
[11:50] <JonTec> !xhangs
[11:50] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[11:50] <Lectus> Daisuke_Ido: Finally got the language pack to download. I had to update the repo.
[11:51] <luca> Sanne: actually it has any reason NOT to work, considering the only installed file is a description pack -.-
[11:51] <JonTec> ^I'ma try that and come back...
[11:51] <varaonaid> Hi, I'm trying to install truetype fonts and installed the msttcorefonts package.  however, I don't seem to have a ~/.fonts folder.  is that a gnome thing?  do I have to log out and back in to see it?  is it entirely different in KDE?
[11:51] <Sanne> luca: oh?
[11:51] <luca> Sanne: what bugs me however is that it did not give any error message in the make... :(
[11:52] <luca> Sanne: yep, only one text file installed after checkinstall :(
[11:52] <Sanne> luca: that's really weird#
[11:52] <luca> yeah I guess :(
[11:53] <Sanne> luca: you read all the readme's and docs?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> well, I dumped windows , and expanded the whole drive as an ext3 partition. However now the bootloader grub shows " error 17 unable to mount partition "... any suggestions ?
[11:53] <luca> installed all the files and followed the howto on the forums
[11:53] <luca> specific for edgy and checkinstall - maybe it lacks something in Feisty
[11:54] <Sanne> luca: then I guess your best bet is asking the devs or on their forums. Maybe they even have an irc channel?
[11:54] <luca> dunno, will check out thanks ;)
[11:54] <Sanne> luca: there should also be an INSTALL file in the sources, did you check that out also?
[11:55] <luca> uhm one sec
[11:55] <BluesKaj> GRUB!
[11:55] <Makro2> something like norton ghost for kubuntu?
[11:55] <BluesKaj> !Grub
[11:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:55] <luca> Sanne: dunno. it is not in the main folder, there is a cmake file
[11:56] <luca> yes found
[11:56] <Sanne> luca: :)
[11:56] <Daisuke_Ido> Lectus: excellent.  sorry, was busy elsewhere :\
[11:57] <luca> ok retrying ;)
[11:57] <luca> ...
[11:57] <luca> ok my fault
[11:57] <luca> now I am trying
[11:58] <Sanne> luca: good luck again :)
[11:58] <luca> I did something very wrong following instructions :P
[11:58] <Sanne> hehe
[12:03] <luca> Sanne: who wrote the guide was not thinking about kubuntu :-S
[12:03] <luca> they tell me I should be working in the /tmp folder
[12:03] <Sanne> luca: weird
[12:03] <luca> but I have never had any package there
[12:03] <luca> so there is already the folder they mention, quite empty
[12:04] <JonTec> alright, I'm still having a problem... !xhangs doesn't help me
[12:04] <mauro> hello
[12:05] <ubuntu_> can anyone help me with a kpdf margin problem, the top of the text is always cut off and there is always extra empty space at the bottom
[12:06] <JonTec> can anyone help me figure out/fix the fact that kdm/X stops running (black screen)
[12:06] <JonTec> (that is, after I login)
[12:07] <JonTec> `tail -f`
[12:07] <JonTec> sorry about that: that wasn't directed at anyone
[12:09] <luca> Sanne: ...
[12:10] <luca> guess I find the bug
[12:10] <Sanne> luca: yo
[12:10] <Sanne> luca: oh, what is it?
[12:10] <luca> Sanne: it put the file which SHOULD have gone into the usr folder...into a folder INTERNAL to the depacked folder from the tar
[12:10] <luca> ...
[12:10] <darryl> I have an AVI movie on my computer that I want to burn to DVD so that it will play in my home DVD player.  Can K3b do this?
[12:10] <luca> Sanne: dunno how to fix it.
[12:11] <yurimxpxman> what is Alt+F10, etc., meant for?
[12:11] <yurimxpxman> I mean, they don't have a VT
[12:11] <Sanne> luca: I don't know, sorry, it's too specific to this program. Ask those devs ;)
[12:12] <luca> eh they do not have a channel :( in any case trying to see what I can do :)
[12:12] <Sanne> luca: good luck
[12:13] <luca> eh thanks ;)