=== drkns [n=drkns@195.174.147.230] has joined #kubuntu === shinygerbil [i=shinyger@ip-89-168-5-248.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #kubuntu === Eruantalon [n=hans@5634185c.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #kubuntu === gemidjy [n=gemidjy@62.162.67.50] has joined #kubuntu === sebastian [n=sebastia@82-46-9-58.cable.ubr05.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === sebastian is now known as sebsebseb === sebsebseb [n=sebastia@82-46-9-58.cable.ubr05.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === routh [n=routh@bas2-kingston08-1167930047.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu === angelripper [n=nuyao@pD9E0D851.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === Kejk_PL [n=konrad@staticline23715.toya.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu === see-g__ [n=see-g@86.42.147.147] has joined #kubuntu === red_ [n=red@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === sercik [n=sercik@host199-160-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [12:20] i can't use sudo command anymore.. please help me!!! === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@wlan232-170.srem.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:20] sercik: Well, the basic info is here: [12:20] i thibk that tje problrm is i have done following command usermod -G vbixusere sercik [12:20] !sudo | sercik [12:20] sercik: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. [12:20] I need a hand from someone - I used automatix and downloaded the latest updates kubuntu dapper - and now I can't access /media/usbdisk no matter what I do with /etc/fstab [12:20] i think that the problem is i have done following command usermod -G vboxusers sercik === Black5un [n=mr@cpe-71-79-229-244.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === strabes [n=alex@ip68-108-31-178.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@port0122-abg-static-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:22] sercik: Yup. Should have used -a === ubuntu_ is now known as Daskreech === candyban [n=timh@uu212-190-206-98.unknown.uunet.be] has joined #kubuntu === lascar [n=AJ@c-68-39-66-86.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === blau [n=blau@Xd466.x.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:23] now when i do sudo don't work and if i launch adept dor example i insert my user password but it don't gice me access [12:23] please what can i do?? [12:23] /disconnect [12:23] sercik: Probably need to do usermod -a adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin === Dezine [n=Patrick@c-71-61-192-14.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:24] sercik: Followed by your username, of course. === norm_ [n=norm@81-208-60-192.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #kubuntu [12:24] ah ok === norm_ is now known as MarioNetz [12:25] sercik: Actually, your username twice, you want to be a member of serick too. [12:25] Anyone have any idea what happened to my system? I used to have access to any new usb drives, but now it tells me I don't have access permissions [12:25] switch -a is incorrect [12:25] you may also need to usermod -g sercik sercik [12:25] sercik: Hm. === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-228.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu === luke_ [n=luke@82-33-65-79.cable.ubr01.trow.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [12:26] i have tried it and usermod don't recognize -a [12:26] sercik: Sorry, -Ga === Dezine [n=Patrick@c-71-61-192-14.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] === Kejk_PL [n=konrad@staticline23715.toya.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu [12:27] Whoops, sorry, I'm rusty on this. === juanbox4 [n=juan@190.65.209.68] has joined #kubuntu [12:27] sercik: seperate the groupnames with commas. [12:27] sercik: no spaces, just commas. [12:28] like this usermod -Ga adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip...... [12:28] sercik: Yes. [12:28] sercik: Some commands require that you use the form usermod -G -a, but they usually allow you to combine the options. [12:28] it says "a group unknown" [12:29] sercik: Sigh. Try -G -a then. [12:30] sercik: "This behaviour can be changed via -a option..." - from man usermod === ehc [n=x@wall.pacinfo.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:30] sercik is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. [12:31] Heh. [12:31] and also another strange thing i have no mixer === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu [12:31] sercik: Probably because you're not in group audio. [12:32] hello raki crashes when i try to sync the calendar, but it is ok for contacts [12:32] i'm not is sudoers so i can't use sudo so i can't add myself to groups i think... === NDPMacBook [n=ndpmacbo@207-172-70-51.c3-0.sbo-ubr2.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:32] sercik: Sorry, man, I gotta go feed the horses. I'm sure there's a page on this on the wiki or something. === Sanne [n=Sanne@c-134-177-179.d.dsl.de.ignite.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:32] thank you jhutchins [12:32] :( === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@ool-44c55a3b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu is now known as dextrone [12:34] hello, can anyone tell me if I can install kubuntu from the {regular} cd wo/ loading the desktop [12:34] yes you can [12:34] i did it today [12:35] my install often freezes at the main install part where it says Detecting Filesystems [12:35] can u tell me how [12:35] well mine diod not freezze [12:35] i had a little problem but that was beaacause the cd was damaged [12:35] i isntalled kubuntu 7.04 [12:35] i restarted the pc with the cd insidde [12:35] nobody uses raki ? [12:35] same, but when i load the desktop, it freezes [12:36] ,and how do I install wo/ loading the desktop [12:36] then it gets to a screen when it asks you what you want to do, i picked start kubuntu in safe mode graphics [12:37] and does that allow you to install wo/ the desktop [12:37] or is there something I need to do along with that === juanbox4 [n=juan@190.65.209.68] has joined #kubuntu [12:38] after you get to the desktop === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-76-61.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [12:38] yes [12:38] there is a little icon on the desktop that says install === nosrednaekim [n=michael@05-103.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:38] then it just to follow orders [12:38] wait [12:38] it freezes when I do that at the last step when I press install, [12:39] it says detecting filesystems [12:39] what do you have for hardrives? [12:39] I tried leaving it on for ~3 hrs but no dice === routh_ [n=routh@bas2-kingston08-1167930047.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu [12:39] 40GB maxtator [12:39] dextrone: your best bet would be the alternate cd (but I guess you already know about that?) [12:39] well [12:40] the thing is the live cd is my only wait to get anywhere beyond "Press any key to restart" OR "Hal.dll is corrupt" {2xp installs} [12:40] and that's why I can't get the alt. cd === oem [n=oem@213.190.34.99] has joined #kubuntu [12:41] hello.. :) === oem is now known as morfejas [12:42] oem:hello, is there anyway to install kubuntu {7} wo/ loading the live desktop === gdiebel [n=gdiebel@adsl-76-204-94-2.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:42] chek if someone lives near you with a disc? === see-g_ [n=see-g@86.42.159.54] has joined #kubuntu === NDPMacBook [n=ndpmacbo@207-172-70-51.c3-0.sbo-ubr2.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === groi is now known as gnom [12:43] yra lietuviu ?:) [12:43] i would try to format the disc and try again to isntall [12:43] well, I know a few people here and there but I need it fixed now, so if there's any other solution I'd like it [12:43] the hdd [12:43] ? [12:43] where are you writting from now? windows? [12:43] no [12:43] how instal skype? :\ [12:44] the live cd [12:44] and it frezzes just at the end anfter pressing install [12:44] HI !! DOES ANYONE HAVE PROBLEM POWERING OFF KUBUNTU MACHIME ?? [12:44] morfejas:http://tntmax.com/content/view/176/60/ [12:44] fnx [12:44] how can i change screen size in linux? please [12:44] it happened to me that a warning message came up but it was hided behind the originla window so i could not see it [12:45] maybe that is it, try moving the main window [12:45] skane: change screen size?do you have a widescreen monitor? [12:45] no my mouse froze === red_ [n=red@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [12:45] Waht is the kubuntu for ubuntus System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver [12:46] oh that wa s even wrose [12:46] ......pesky windows, if it worked for ONE more time I could install debian/ubuntu from those auto install programs [12:46] guillermo: as far as I can tell there is none... sadly enough === Bi||aBong [n=Bi||aBon@tdev207-54.codetel.net.do] has joined #kubuntu [12:46] nosrednaekim: i think resolution [12:46] hI Guillermo, do you have problems with ATI? === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #kubuntu [12:47] I run on ATI too and can't run 3D Cube [12:47] skane: do you have a widescreen monitor? [12:47] nosrednaekim: no i have 19' [12:47] gnome yeah [12:48] i am trying ti install the drivers [12:48] can you? [12:48] i got a link but it is for ubuntu [12:48] skane: what type of graphics card do you have? [12:48] it says smething about "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver [12:48] nosrednaekim: geforce 5600 FX [12:48] guillermo: go into adept, and install the "fglrx" package [12:49] that, after using tje command line to install some thing [12:49] try original ubuntu drivers, ATI's dont work [12:49] skane: install "nvidia-glx" [12:49] its the proprietary Nvidia drivers === nkk [n=nkk@p54b0c3a0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === drkns [n=drkns@195.174.147.230] has joined #kubuntu === aro [n=aro@53.181.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Bi||aBong [n=Bi||aBon@tdev207-54.codetel.net.do] has left #kubuntu ["quit"] [12:49] do i nedd the control panel? === khnz [n=khnz@i577B7D54.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:50] found tutorial, no control panel [12:51] it's done [12:51] i am gona try to watch a film [12:51] player? === see-g [n=see-g@86.42.173.34] has joined #kubuntu [12:51] i got vlc, amarok, kaffeine,mplayer [12:51] Prefered? [12:52] my kubuntu is too slow running amarok [12:52] i installed kubuntu today i dont know [12:52] i had windows untill this morning [12:52] gnom: install exaile! [12:53] i dont see anything on amarok burt i hear [12:53] nice distro, but requires work === Search4Lancer [n=redphoen@c-68-80-88-216.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:53] did you compile dirvers (xine)? === budg [n=budg@c211-30-41-33.mirnd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:53] are you talking to me? [12:54] xine? i guess i didi [12:54] windows req work [12:54] Anybody have experience witc Scientific linux? [12:54] cp skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb.orig [12:54] cp: cannot stat `skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb': No such file or directory [12:54] help.. :) [12:55] change repositories [12:55] morfejas: what are you trying to do? [12:55] instal skype [12:55] is there any boot option with the cd that I can try so it boots directly into the isbtaller [12:55] *live cd [12:55] dextrone: no... you need the alternate installer for that === knowpix [n=knowpix@AMarseille-251-1-36-184.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [12:55] kxmame on kubumtu is top notch [12:56] played frogger today === creadorcreativo [n=insane@164.77.219.51] has joined #kubuntu [12:56] ARE YOU AMERICANS? === sercik [n=sercik@host199-160-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [12:56] what is kxmane [12:56] I don`t speek EN help my how work next ... plz... :) [12:56] yeah... [12:56] emulatoe [12:56] what is the problem? [12:57] cp skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb.orig [12:57] cp: cannot stat `skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb': No such file or directory [12:57] what :) [12:57] it does not work [12:57] morfejas: if you don't speak english, go to a channel for your language [12:57] guillermo: what doesn't? === jaevel [n=bob@user-0vvdf78.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:57] koffeine does not show anything neither does amarok [12:57] i mean the drivers [12:57] vlc shows sound and picture but it is slow [12:57] guillermo: drivers for what? [12:58] kxmame is in synaptic [12:58] and pretty bad with fullscreen === pierre_ [n=pierre@lns-bzn-28-82-250-173-183.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:58] i am trying to install drivers for an ati graphic card [12:58] guillermo: go into adept [12:58] can someone tell me where to find hardware list that is compatible with the new nvidia-glx-new driver? [12:58] i don't know why but i have deassociated my user from groups i think so now i need to know to which group should add my user to work correctly in kubuntu [12:58] and search for adept [12:58] search for "fglrx" sorry [12:58] i already installed it [12:59] jaevel: pretty much anything after the Geforce4 [12:59] fnx [12:59] bye [12:59] >:) === morfejas [n=oem@213.190.34.99] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:59] how to make knetworkmanager remember for my wifi network wpa key, when i enter it the kde wallet ask me for a password but next time i start i have to enter it again, is it because knetworkmanager is maybe starting before the kdewallet ? [01:00] automatics will help [01:00] nosrednaekim, are you sure? i have a GeForce 440 something or another and i cant get it to work? [01:00] guillermo: ok, now, run this command "sudo aticonfig --initial --overlay-type=Xv" === BudgetDedicated [n=BudgetDe@s5593c2e9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu [01:00] jhutchins: i ave solved a little i have started kubuntu with kernel parameter sinlge and i have added sercik to group admin [01:01] jaevel: ok...not sure... just run nvidia-glx there is really very little difference in functionality right now [01:01] could you repeat me that groups to which i need to add sercik? === Fri13 [n=Fri13@86-60-137-67-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #kubuntu === manchicken is now known as manchicken|away [01:02] nosrednaekim, well.. i've been trying to run wine->wow and everyone keeps telling me to upgrade my drivers to get it to work.... [01:02] i did taht nosrednaekm [01:02] guillermo: ok, now you need to edit your Xorg. [01:02] should it be working bwtter now? [01:02] no.. not yet. [01:02] nosrednaekim: i know it now thx [01:02] if you guide me ill be thankfull [01:03] skane: NP [01:03] guillermo: will do === morfejas [n=oem@213.190.34.99] has joined #kubuntu [01:03] i'm not able to access sound as user === jman [n=jman@59-252-97-62.c2h.no] has joined #kubuntu [01:04] guillermo: log out, and select in the KDM sessions menu or whatever to restart the X sever === Daisuke_Ido [n=sierra-x@pool-71-97-143-56.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === mkeller [n=mark@DSL124-155.hillsboro.mwt.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:04] then log back in. [01:04] i'll be right back [01:04] GN [01:04] poor guy === drkns [n=drkns@195.174.147.230] has joined #kubuntu === guillermo [n=guillerm@guillermoz.campus.luth.se] has joined #kubuntu === RadiantFire_ [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu [01:06] i am back [01:06] when i loged out i did restart the x-server === oem [n=oem@189.132.37.250] has joined #kubuntu [01:06] there was an option when i was about to write my password === leileilol [n=Hsi@c-75-68-37-174.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu [01:06] ok. [01:06] hi [01:07] i have a problem with beryl [01:07] hi [01:07] me too [01:07] run the command " glxinfo | grep direct" [01:07] well i tryied kaffeine now and it works a lot better === Jisao [n=etchian@1meg-mtl-adsl219.securenet.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:07] guillermo: really? good. === see-g__ [n=see-g@86.42.144.184] has joined #kubuntu [01:07] it works very good even in full size window [01:08] its about the rendering? === agn0stic [n=kaens@c-68-51-109-253.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:08] oem: sorry, wasn't talking to you [01:08] ok [01:09] oem: did it work before? [01:09] yes [01:09] on wath card? === gemidjy_ [n=gemidjy@62.162.67.50] has joined #kubuntu === dfw [n=dfw@host86-146-216-173.range86-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === sercik [n=sercik@host199-160-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:11] man thx for the help [01:12] intel 865g [01:12] guillermo: You get your ATI card sorted I see? === luis__lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-83-174.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu === david2 [n=david2@cpe-24-162-105-224.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:12] linux native drivers? [01:12] yeh === humboldt [n=elias@213-147-185-150.ADSL.ycn.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:13] work better. I crashed my systwm with ATI drivers === Saphirus [n=Saphirus@196.203.44.62] has joined #kubuntu [01:13] pure sabotage [01:13] guillermo: Yes? No? Potatoes? === sercik [n=sercik@host199-160-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:13] Graham? potatoes [01:14] Seemed random, you get your graphics card working? === Bi||aBong [n=Bi||aBon@tdev207-54.codetel.net.do] has joined #kubuntu === rich__ [n=rich@hlfxns0149w-142177156231.ns.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:14] Graham: I think he did. [01:14] Lovelly jubely :) [01:14] baad... [01:14] imnew to linux [01:15] i have a problem with wine and cedega when i try run GTA SA this crash [01:15] i have no idea what im doing [01:15] osrry to spoil your rhyme... its spelled "jubilee" [01:15] somone help. [01:15] pleas check this is a screenshot of my desktop runing beryl http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/445/mydesktopjs6.png [01:15] rich__: ok... whats the problem [01:15] man i love this thing === dak [i=dak@rock.accessshells.us] has joined #kubuntu [01:16] i am gonna convince my friends of give it a try [01:16] im trying to install programs, and whever i try to do so,, it says unable to compile excutible [01:16] guillermo: what thing? [01:16] instal gcc [01:17] gcc? [01:17] see this is my first time ever using linux [01:17] my first kubuntu didn t have it [01:17] rich__: for installting software in general in *ubuntu, see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement [01:17] i mean linux [01:17] kubuntu all this world outside windows [01:17] rich__: what program?you ussually don't need to compile something.. [01:17] need Knemo === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [01:18] guillermo: ah yes... most don't know this world exists... [01:18] can anyone help me figure out why my computer freezes when I press the "Install" button; it freezes at 15% Detecting Filesystems [01:18] well what im really trying to get is beryl [01:18] and i have no idea how to [01:18] dextrone: are you sure it's not just hanging for a bit? [01:19] I've left it on for hours sometimes; nothing changes [01:19] rich:get to know it in general, worry about 3d later [01:19] rich__: ok... first, are you running Nvidia or Intel graphics? [01:19] ATI [01:20] dextrone: i assume ubuntu 7.10 is what you're trying to install? === Bi||aBong [n=Bi||aBon@tdev207-54.codetel.net.do] has left #kubuntu ["quit"] [01:20] yes [01:20] rich: with ATI your scroweddd... [01:21] brb [01:21] dextrone: first thing to try would be burning the iso cd at a slow speed, to make sure it's burnt correctly [01:21] rich__: is it a new card, or an older one? [01:21] a new one [01:21] brand new computer all together [01:21] If Kubuntu decides (without me asking, after install) to load a certain kernel module, and it does, does that mean I have that particular hardware? === hangthedj [n=crazyrob@Wheeler-pbdsl5.Stanford.EDU] has joined #kubuntu [01:22] Tired_: Just means Kubuntu THINKS you have particular hardware. === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@bas1-kingston08-1128702793.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:22] rich__: that will be a big pain then. ATI doesn't play nice with Linux. [01:22] So I might have Bluetooth, then... [01:22] agreed [01:22] I need help with partitioning my drive [01:22] Cool [01:22] well what about cgl [01:22] xgl* === nceterval [i=nes@ppp-70-224-212-33.dsl.applwi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:23] iv read that it is compatible [01:23] Well... as far as I know, Bluetooth modules are loaded anyway. [01:23] Tired_: nah.. you probably don't.. Ubuntu just loads those things. [01:23] cmopatible, yes, stable, oh most certainly not === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@bas1-kingston08-1128702793.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:23] I personally just got rid of mine. [01:23] Oh. I don't know how I'd test it anyways...I have no bluetooth devices [01:23] can I get help with partitioning my drive [01:23] well either way id like to try it atleast [01:23] rich__: it is.. but its both unstable and a bit heavy on resouces [01:23] NO YOU CAN'T! [01:24] dont be cruel [01:24] ubuntu: Get QTparted and you'll be halfway home. [01:24] please private message me if you can help [01:24] rich__: ok then... [01:24] Gparted is more sin === mofo [n=rn@cpe-72-184-186-170.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:24] simple [01:24] What is the name of the Kubuntu update manager I can use to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty? Adept was supposed to launch it, but crashed. [01:24] Gparted is more gnome :) [01:24] yea [01:24] And sucks ass anyway. [01:24] uuu [01:24] cya [01:25] so how would i go about doing so [01:25] nceterval: you can just change the names in /etc/apt/sources.list [01:25] ubuntu: What do you want to do to your drive? === drkns [n=drkns@195.174.147.230] has joined #kubuntu [01:25] !XGL | rich__ [01:25] rich__: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects [01:25] nceterval: then apt-get update; apt-get upgrade [01:25] yay === sercik [n=sercik@host199-160-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:25] agn0stic, There's no reason to use whatever fancy GUI Kubuntu have designed? [01:26] ubuntu: Hello? [01:26] thanks, and that should be step by step on how to install === excitatory [n=excitato@CPE-70-94-36-196.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:26] please could someone do the following command "groups" and give me the output?? PLEASE!!! === aster_i [n=aster_i@206.49.165.171] has joined #Kubuntu [01:26] nceterval: i find it faster to do stuff from the command line most of the time, especially installing apps. If you want to use the gui, you can, but it's mainly a wrapper to the command line tools anyhow [01:27] agn0stic, What is the command to launch the GUI (for reference if nothing else)? [01:27] rich__: yeah... if not(or if you have problems) come back here [01:27] sercik: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin freddy [01:27] freddy is my user name [01:27] I can't turn off my computer HELP [01:27] nceterval: idk. synaptic is one front-end to apt (assuming you're talking about the gui for upgrading) [01:27] gnom: Unplug it. === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44765.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:28] Kubuntu gets stuck [01:28] Load it in recovery mode and do shutdown, see if any errors occour. === hodgejj [n=hodgejj@c-67-177-68-16.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] There is no error if I power it off from root konsole [01:29] agn0stic, Oh, I'm not looking for a package manger, there is apparently a frontend specifically for the Feisty upgrade (http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php). === administrador__ [n=administ@200.187.145.130] has joined #kubuntu === aster_i [n=aster_i@206.49.165.171] has joined #Kubuntu [01:29] it wont let me format my disk [01:29] Admiral_Chicago: thank you very much === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [01:29] agn0stic, As I said, Adept indicated that it would launch it and then crashed. [01:29] how can i add myself to all that groups?? [01:29] any ideas on how to make it so that when i partition it it wont say that i cant change the partition size [01:30] unmount if first [01:30] np === felzix [n=felzix@c-24-5-196-117.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:30] no [01:30] its my windows hard drive [01:31] its a 350 gig sata and has over 50 gigs free [01:31] you need ntfs3g [01:31] No he doesn't. [01:31] He needs the ntfsutils [01:31] So you can resize it. [01:31] isn't installed by default [01:31] do it from win === Raven301 [n=raven301@unaffiliated/raven301] has joined #Kubuntu === Alonea [n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:32] nceterval: the command to launch adept should be "adept" without the quotes. [01:33] what is the big difference between the dvd and the live cd? [01:33] nceterval: you could launch it from a terminal and look at the output when it crashes to try to determine the cause [01:33] okay [01:33] so what should i do [01:33] just use partition magic? [01:33] ubuntu: use knoppix if your win partitions dont work [01:33] Alonea: the number of included packages [01:33] nceterval: or just do the upgrade yourself, probably less painful if adepts crashing on you [01:33] ntfs-fix -- [01:34] okay [01:34] well heres a question [01:34] gnom: or how about just setting them up properly and not driving people away from ubuntu, mmmkay? [01:34] Daisuke_Ido: ok. downloading disk for friend and he is on dialup. [01:34] whats the partition type for kubuntu [01:34] sorry [01:34] Daisuke_Ido: I should probably get him the dvd, yes? [01:34] ubuntu: pretty much whatever you want [01:34] agn0stic, Right, I understand how to launch Adept... it is my understanding that there is a seperate GUI tool used for the Feisty upgrade. [01:34] Alonea: that would be my recommendation [01:34] what would be reccomended [01:34] Perhaps I am mistaken [01:34] ntfs [01:34] ubuntu [01:34] ubuntu: most use ext3 [01:34] okay [01:34] ill use that [01:35] almost anything :D [01:35] tahnks alonea [01:35] Does Feisty run ntpdate on a set interval by default, or do I have to manually add the cron job? === shawn__ [n=shawn@CPE0018f86cc0b1-CM0019474d23dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:35] ubuntu: the live cd should make that by default [01:35] ext3 is the most common, then reiser or ext2 probably [01:35] and vfat is good for cross-platform storage [01:35] Daisuke_Ido: I doubt he would want to drag his computer to my house for decent internet all the time. [01:35] although it probably "violates microsoft's patents" [01:35] nceterval: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php makes it look like its done through adept. if it's launching another program, I have no clue what it would be, sorry. [01:36] agn0stic, Hmm, ok. Thanks for your time. [01:36] screw theri patents [01:36] Alonea: the dvd has all of main on there [01:36] Admiral_Chicago: ok. hopefully this download doesn't take too long... === gary_ [n=gary@user-5443153e.lns4-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [01:36] the dvd is the best option, but it doesn't have universe... as Admiral_Chicago just said and i should really pay more attention [01:37] :-) Alonea about as long as it takes a dvd to download [01:37] Daisuke_Ido: well, he just wants to get his computer up at the moment with some stuff on it. He just built his own. [01:38] Admiral_Chicago: hehe. Well, he is supposed to come by in a couple hours for it. Worst case I give him Edgy Eft and he can get over it. === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [01:38] bye [01:38] ooh, edgy-feisty upgrade over dialup [01:38] that's torture === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu === sercik [n=sercik@host199-160-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] Admiral_Chicago: thank you very much i have solved my problem [01:39] Daisuke_Ido: well, he could always wait to upgrade and actually bring over computer to my house for relief... [01:39] torrents work well for me. good speeds [01:39] sercik: my pleasure [01:40] Admiral_Chicago: oh! I dunno if you were there, but I found non network manager/knetwork manager option for WPA. It is a bit buggy, but it works === Jack3 [n=Jack@pool-71-115-206-112.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:40] i can give a help to all people: if you lose root privileges and you can't use sudo command you can start kubuntu in alternate mode so you can give command as root [01:40] can someone please help me with this http://pastebin.ca/490328 [01:40] Admiral_Chicago: I had no idea that Wireless Assistant had a later version with it. [01:40] Alonea: few people realize the power of torrents, I was getting 600 k/b down for Ubuntu Studio [01:40] Admiral_Chicago: I could try real fast [01:41] oink! [01:41] anyone know? [01:41] Jack3: go to "ctrl+alt+f2" [01:41] Jack3: recovery mode, sudo startx telss you what [01:42] tells* === lustrousrodent [i=shinyger@ip-89-168-2-143.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:42] sorry i'm a bit excited :) [01:42] i will have to reboot, im on the windows partition [01:42] whats ctrl alt f2 do? [01:42] okay write down the last line and get back to me [01:42] okay [01:42] i may be afk === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu [01:42] Jack3: move to a tty [01:42] tty? [01:43] moves to a command linee only console === stratman4300 [n=stratman@66-188-47-198.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:43] alritebrb [01:43] actualy [01:44] when i tried recovery mode [01:44] i put in my ass in sudo -s,and it said incorrect [01:44] and i am POSITIVE it is [01:44] ok I just came back; when ever I try to install kubuntu 7; it locks up at "detecting filesystems 15%" any help [01:44] would be nice [01:45] helllllllllllllllllllo? [01:45] sudo -s? [01:45] uh [01:45] yeh, is that wrong? [01:45] no need to shout BTW... [01:45] sorry [01:46] i think i tried sudo also === aster_i [n=aster_i@206.49.165.171] has left #Kubuntu [] [01:46] I've never used the recovery mode myself,so i'm not sure what it does. === agn0stic [n=kaens@c-68-51-109-253.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === drkns [n=drkns@195.174.147.230] has joined #kubuntu === facex [n=facex@201.78.43.141] has joined #kubuntu === RadiantFire_ [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu === nikkiana [n=nikkiana@WPIS-64-140-251-226.worldpath.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:47] I guess I've been lucky with this distro.. I've never had to use recovery mode, never had a crash or problem. [01:47] yeah..me too... mut then I don'tdo Bit torrents... [01:48] I take that back, the biggest problem I have had with this distro is how to change the kmenu icon, lol === RadiantFire_ is now known as RadiantFire === LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #kubuntu [01:48] and Jack3's problem is anoyingly common. [01:48] really? === gemidjy__ [n=gemidjy@62.162.67.50] has joined #kubuntu [01:49] yeah. [01:49] I've seen it at lest 2 times [01:49] if so it sounds liek a wine problem [01:49] with properly detecting free space [01:50] really? I think its a problem with not enough diskspace === gdiebel [n=gdiebel@adsl-76-204-94-2.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:50] my sarcasm detector's on the fritz :\ [01:50] any help for me with my install freezing at detecting file systems [01:51] Daisuke_Ido: I wonder if that's just with the wine in the ubuntu repos. I had a lot less problems when I switched to theirs. [01:51] Alonea: i'm using .9.37 from the budgetdedicated repos and haven't had a problem === Marverick [n=M@201.88.33.20] has joined #kubuntu [01:52] What's the status of the Clicn N Run stuff that I have heard about? How do I get it on my systems? === Marverick [n=M@201.88.33.20] has left #kubuntu [] === facex [n=facex@201.78.43.141] has joined #kubuntu [01:53] Daisuke_Ido: yeah, thats what I use too. fixed all of my previous problems with it. Its the one that isn't at budgetdedicated that I had a whole lotta problems with. === flake [n=rmcdanie@6532142hfc81.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === someothernick [n=someothe@pool-72-85-214-35.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === matt__ [n=matt@202-169-220-179.worldnet.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu === artbird309 [n=artbird3@24-197-183-147.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === gdiebel [n=gdiebel@adsl-76-204-94-2.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:56] hello [01:56] how can i make ndiswrapper module to autoload at start up instead of writing modprobe ndiswrapper [01:56] everytime [01:57] "ndiswrapper -m" [01:57] or rather "sudo ndiswrapper -m" [01:57] I think you just have to write it in : /etc/modules [01:58] thanks [01:58] thats what that command does === matri [n=matri@61.170.222.254] has joined #kubuntu === alb [n=alb@host155-38-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:58] thank you === eduardo [n=eduardo@58.pool85-48-198.static.orange.es] has joined #kubuntu [01:59] you're welcome [01:59] today i tried to install kubuntu on a raid 0 set up but i failed === matt__ [n=matt@202-169-220-179.worldnet.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu [01:59] drkns: yeah you need the alternate installer for that. [01:59] it seems raid 0 is not an option === lustrousrodent is now known as shinygerbil [01:59] hello who can help me with ubuntu apache asp net?! :'( [01:59] i tried it with alternate install cd [01:59] drkm: ah... ok.. [02:00] it is hard to decide whether i have hardware or software raid [02:00] my laptop manual says it has hardware raid [02:01] laptop? with RAID? WOAH! [02:01] but kubuntu detected drives as seperate drives even though my fastrack 100 lite set the array [02:01] yes i was using winxp pro on raid 0 120g set up === isabelle [n=isabelle@200.92.146.5] has joined #kubuntu === facex_ [n=facex@201.78.39.6] has joined #kubuntu === Arwen [i=anon32@wikipedia/anon32] has joined #kubuntu === mikael_ [n=mikael@1-1-1-45a.has.sth.bostream.se] has joined #kubuntu [02:01] drkns: your laptop has two drives? [02:02] this is a 3 years old laptop and yes it has 2 drives 60gb 7200 rpm each [02:02] whoa, a dual-hard drive laptop? === isabelle is now known as isabelle_ [02:02] I want one of t hose === nwave [n=rui@bl5-163-232.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu [02:02] wow... that thing must really not have good battery life. [02:02] yep about 30 mins [02:02] lol. [02:03] heavy as well its 17 inch [02:03] but it must be pretty fast with raded 7200 RPMS === nwave [n=rui@bl5-163-232.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:03] yes it was [02:03] was? [02:03] now i am on kubuntu its kind of sluggish [02:03] no raid === scriper [n=scriper@89.105.146.77] has joined #kubuntu [02:03] just one drive? [02:03] I mean.. its just istalled on one drive. [02:04] still two drive but both are on ide now not raid 0 array [02:04] yes it is installed on one kubuntu installers always see the drives as two seperate drive [02:04] ok. well.. I've never done a RAID install so I really can't hepl === stewk [n=stewk@adsl-10-199-245.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] no problem [02:04] Admiral_Chicago: *grins* friend is gonan bring compy over since he has noooo idea what he is doing. He is a linux newb and he wants windows on their too. Know anything about getting SBC dialup to work with kubuntu? [02:05] so far it seems impossible or there is one way but its not efficient [02:05] Alonea, eh? dialup? does he have a real modem or a winmodem?> === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h68n1c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h68n1c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:07] Arwen: hell if I know. He just built this comp from the ground up. All he knows is that the software they gave him is only for win/mac. Not to mention I have not had dialup in years and know nothing about it anymore [02:07] hopefully its an intel... [02:08] Alonea, hehe, so it is a winmodem :-) [02:08] too bad, poor guy won't be able to use the Internet === SabrToothRabbit [n=SabrToot@80-192-151-76.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [02:08] are winmodems still THAT bad in linux? [02:09] Daisuke_Ido, winmodems are bad. Period. [02:09] yeppers [02:09] i would think by now someone would have macgyvered something [02:09] they are bad in windoz as well [02:09] but if its an intel, he might be OK. [02:09] Arwen: I guess not. but this is the software they gave to him for the old computer. what is the difference between the two? === Zangetsu- is now known as Zangetsu [02:09] nosrednaekim, Intel winmodems don't work with the latest kernels (feisty, anyone?) [02:09] really? [02:09] Arwen: a winmodem and a modem? like, is the win the one built inside the computer and the modem the outside box thing? [02:09] interesting [02:10] Alonea: winmodems have most functions controlled via software rather than hardware is how i understand it [02:10] Alonea, a winmodem is a fake modem build into the motherboard or a PCI-* slot. It's like fakeraid (it sucks). === clintc_laptop [n=clintc@adsl-220-152-140.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:10] Modems are either expensive internal cards with fancy logic circuits or boxes that attach via serial port. [02:10] !modem [02:10] You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto [02:11] Arwen: I honestly don't know what he actually has in his box at all internet wise. === Daisuke_Ido wipes away a tear remembering his 14.4kbps USR modem === nosrednaekim thanks goodness he has a standalone over the netowork dial up router/modem [02:11] Alonea, probably a winmodem then :-) === freet15 [n=freet15@124.64.106.227] has joined #kubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.106.227] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@pool-71-115-206-112.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:12] Arwen: like I said, know nothing at all about dialup. He might be getting dsl as soon as he can afford it [02:12] yay for him :-) === ubuntu is now known as Jack3 [02:12] Alonea, anyway point him to !dialup :-) [02:12] hey guys [02:12] anyone here still? [02:12] which will be a heck of a lot sooner if you make it painfull [02:12] im booted into kubuntu live cd [02:13] yeppers JAck3 [02:13] any ideas what to do now [02:13] Arwen: the big problem for the longest time was that where he lives, his only choice was dialup or satellite, which is my area, is worse than dialup [02:13] i wasnt able to successful login to root [02:13] it just said it was wrong pass [02:13] Jack3: yep. [02:13] Alonea, ouch :-\ [02:13] do a "sudo chroot " that is after you have mounted that partition === NDPTAL86 [n=ndptal85@207-172-70-51.c3-0.sbo-ubr2.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:14] Arwen: his house was like 2 blocks from the line for I think cable internet. they finally extended it farther out [02:14] hah [02:14] how do i know what hd i mounted on? [02:14] hd0? === NDPMB [n=ndpmacbo@207-172-70-51.c3-0.sbo-ubr2.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:14] i dunno [02:14] Too bad really, I'm waiting for fiber to reach my place. Then again, since this is the U.S., that might not happen till after I die. [02:14] Jack3: ok... do a "sudo fdisk /dev/hda" and then "p" === NDP-Linux [n=section3@207-172-70-51.c3-0.sbo-ubr2.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:15] oyu only have one HD right? [02:15] Jack3 that will tell you what your linux partition. [02:15] it saysunable to open/dev/hda [02:15] Arwen: heh. I am lucky to have cable. [02:15] Jack3: is it a SATA disc? [02:15] no, its alaptop === SabrToothRabbit [n=SabrToot@80-192-151-76.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu [] [02:16] well, i guess i dont actulal know if its sata [02:16] but i doubt it === [GuS] [n=gustavo@190.48.104.102] has joined #Kubuntu [02:16] Jack3: is it a recent laptop? [02:16] Jack3, that was rather a non-sequitur... what's the fact that it's a laptop have to do with SATA? [02:16] yes [02:17] i thought my hardrive waas called sda1 before [02:17] well its probably got SATA then. [02:17] so its sata.. [02:17] Jack3, sda? probably SATA then === sercik [n=sercik@host199-160-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:17] okay [02:17] so now what? [02:17] ok.... do a "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" [02:17] ok [02:18] byz ppl === hybrid [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #kubuntu [02:19] and then a "sudo chroot /mnt" === NDP-Linux [n=section3@207-172-70-51.c3-0.sbo-ubr2.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:19] hrm [02:19] do NOT close that konsole [02:19] it says [02:19] chroot /mnt [02:19] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory [02:19] bye [02:19] is there an equivalent to EAC for linux? [02:20] they got of chroot in the newest kubuntu? WTH? [02:20] no... I have it... === Random_Transit [n=dsryand@bas3-toronto63-1096775745.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:21] you sure you put a sudo b4 it? [02:21] Daisuke_Ido: EAC? [02:21] i just did sudo -s [02:21] hey, does anyone here know how to set KDE up to accept VNC connections? [02:21] whts the -s do? [02:21] Jack3: you're better off following directions exactly, better results, probably [02:21] its to input the pass so you stay as root [02:22] anyways, i tried sudo chroot /mnt [02:22] same result [02:22] !vnc [02:22] VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [02:22] wait a sec... it says it can't run bash... that means it can't run bash from WITHIN your linux install.... [02:22] nosrednaekim: EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is a cd ripper that does extensive error correction for a perfect bit-for-bit copy [02:23] how do i unmount the sda1/ [02:23] ah. [02:23] Jack3: why? [02:23] cause i want to move it to a folder konqueror can view === NDPTAL86 is now known as NDPTAL85 [02:23] go into konquror and type "/mnt" in the location bar [02:23] i'm using kaudiocreator for now, it copies quite nicely, but doesn't play well with some scratched discs === NDPMB is now known as NDPMacBook [02:24] scratched discs don't play well ... Perios..lol [02:24] *period [02:24] it doesnt have the permissions to acess it [02:24] it need root access [02:24] and konqueror wont start in root [02:25] !root > Jack3 [02:25] yeh i tried sudo konqueror [02:25] i just get a bunch of errors [02:25] do "kdesu konqueror" [02:25] i'm not talking about gouges, i'm talking about little scratches that might cause a skip here and there. === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@dsl-149-113-152.hive.is] has joined #kubuntu [02:25] not sudo...KDESU [02:25] its different [02:25] i just get an error about cannot connect to X server [02:26] using kdesu as well [02:26] oh.. ok.. [02:26] well, how do i unmount it [02:26] well.. navigate to /mnt in a konsole with "cd /mnt" [02:26] you CAN unmount it with "sudo umount /mnt" But please don't yet. [02:27] hgmm wrong hdd [02:27] thats my windows partition [02:27] AH! [02:27] so we might as well unmount [02:27] :P [02:27] im assumin linux is sda2? === Daisuke_Ido gives nosrednaekim some advil :) [02:27] or sda0 [02:27] lol.. [02:27] yeah [02:27] no wonder it couldn'tfind bash [02:27] :D [02:27] sda 2 I'd be betting on [02:27] Jack3: probably 2 [02:28] nosrednaekim: http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/en/index.php/overview/features/features-of-eac/ [02:28] lolnope, tahts the recovery partition [02:28] sda3 for the win! [02:28] :D [02:29] of couse.. that could be swap with our luck === nosrednaekim readies the advil bottle [02:29] swap before / ? [02:29] sda 3 has more windows things [02:29] wtf o.0 [02:30] Jack3: do a "sudo fdisk /dev/sda1" [02:30] then "p" === Daisuke_Ido swaps the advil for tylenol-3 [02:30] need something a little stronger here [02:30] that'll tell you what partion linux is on [02:30] like aspirin cubed? [02:30] im at a Command line [02:31] not the normal shell [02:31] it;ll still work. [02:31] no, like thats what happened when i did fdisk [02:31] Daisuke_Ido: Ibuprofen in my drug of choice. girl's best friend [02:31] tylenol-3 (tylenol + codeine) [02:32] Daisuke_Ido: heh. bet that is good too. [02:32] Jack3: what did it do? [02:32] makes ya feel gooooood [02:32] anyway, back to the situation at hand [02:32] Daisuke_Ido: I just like the pain going completely away very quickly === nosrednaekim gives Daisuke_Ido a glare and a hand slap [02:32] http://pastebin.ca/490423 === Daisuke_Ido 's lower lip quivers [02:33] that wasn't very nice === Alonea consoles Daisuke_Ido === nosrednaekim waves ruler [02:33] kubuntu froze while upgrading to feisty. Now it locks whenever I try to boot into it; I can't even get to any sort of console. Any ideas? [02:33] Jack3: so what's the problem? [02:33] that doesnt seem to telll me where linux is installed :P [02:33] Jack3: ok..put a p and hit enter [02:34] he said press p :) [02:34] lascar: umm.... get a fiesty Cd, get you files off and reinstall [02:34] http://pastebin.ca/490426 [02:34] i forgot p :P === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === tinin [n=tinin@181.Red-88-8-209.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === gen [n=gen@pdpc/supporter/active/gen] has joined #kubuntu [02:36] so im confused which of those is linux [02:36] um... sudo fdisk /dev/sda maybe [02:36] not sda1 [02:36] also im disturbed by the netware one having 0 blocks [02:36] if you just do sudo fdisk -l it will list all partitions and filetypes [02:37] oh wait... did I say sda1? lol... my bad. [02:37] ah its sda5 [02:37] hangthedj: thats nice to know [02:37] thx hang [02:37] ok.. do the chrot thingy on sda5 [02:37] *chroot === prxq_ [n=prxq@Xa105.x.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu === boob [n=assboob@davenport8p240.dial.brightok.net] has joined #kubuntu === jhutchins_lt [n=jonathan@64-151-34-11.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:39] nosrednaekim: i should be able to glean important files from a dapper live cd, no? [02:40] okay now what === Alonea [n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net] has left #kubuntu [] [02:40] and if i can do that, couldn't i just finish the upgrade? [02:40] that didnt really do anything [02:40] lascar: yeah... you chould [02:40] now... as long as you didn't close that terminal... you are now in your linux installation === xx_xx_ [n=hould@cpe-76-173-152-204.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [02:40] oh,cool === xx_xx_ [n=hould@cpe-76-173-152-204.socal.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu [] === xx_xx_ [n=hould@cpe-76-173-152-204.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === xx_xx_ [n=hould@cpe-76-173-152-204.socal.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu [] [02:41] now...go into /home/ [02:41] yeh, there [02:41] did you try to delete the large file you DL? [02:41] (downloaded) [02:42] well they arent there [02:42] but wheres the trash folder [02:43] ok... ".local" [02:43] or rather .local/share/Trash [02:44] on GNOME, it's .Trash [02:44] yeh im there [02:44] you'd think they could agree on something that simple :-\ [02:44] just like 1mb worth of files [02:44] fuck [02:44] tsk tsk [02:44] and konqueror still shows 0b free for the linux partition [02:44] what is going on! [02:44] we say fsck [02:44] run a "df" [02:44] df? [02:44] !terminal | Jack3 [02:44] Jack3: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [02:45] and if it's read only, it would show 0b free wouldn't it? [02:45] that'll tell you if konquror is right [02:45] Daisuke_Ido, no [02:45] no.. [02:45] ah === Daisuke_Ido shrugs [02:45] worth a shot === nosrednaekim presents a ruler [02:45] http://pastebin.ca/490448 [02:46] sounds right [02:46] :( [02:46] ok.. its full. === Jack3 really confused [02:46] i deleted 800mb or so of files [02:46] something is wrong [02:46] Jack3, this a live CD? [02:46] did you delete them as root? [02:46] i just emptied the trashbin before a rebooted [02:46] Arwen: chroot environment [02:46] and did you delete them from the command line or konqueror? [02:47] but they arent in the trashbin, and they arent in there folder [02:47] so i dunno where they would be === Sanne [n=Sanne@c-134-177-179.d.dsl.de.ignite.net] has left #kubuntu ["Bye"] [02:47] Daisuke_Ido, that might be it [02:47] look in " /home/.Trash-0" [02:48] no such file/dir [02:48] ok. [02:48] if he did it as root... does kubuntu use /root for root's home? [02:48] yeah... it does..but he went to HIS home dir. [02:49] hmm === flake [n=rmcdanie@6532142hfc81.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:49] unless of course he delete those files as root. [02:50] Jack3: run a "find file" on "/mnt" for the file name of the big file you DL. [02:50] i dont remember it :X [02:50] Jack3: lol.. [02:50] im using konqueror to check the size of all thefolders in / to see if they add up [02:51] and see which one has the most [02:51] ok. [02:51] apt-get clean is another option to see if he can actually clear space or if there's something more serious, i dunno, maybe? again, i'm just pulling ideas from my nether-regions [02:52] did you delete the file as root? [02:52] that file is still around me thinks. [02:52] i just it through kde [02:52] ok. [02:52] i just clicked empty taskbin [02:52] err trashbin [02:52] what was the file? [02:52] did you send it to trash? [02:53] look in /tmp as well === yamal [n=yamal@Room641A.no-such-agency.net.ru] has joined #kubuntu [02:53] um this is bad [02:53] total = 5gb [02:53] it says i have 11.6gb used === dope [n=dope@116.157.202.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:54] how do i know what user php is running under [02:54] i have ubuntu server edition [02:54] Daisuke_Ido: look at his pastebin.... something is definately funny with it... [02:54] it says the kernel modules ahev 11 GB allocated to them. === gen [n=gen@pdpc/supporter/active/gen] has joined #kubuntu [02:55] yeah... some thing is definately weird with that. [02:55] : [02:55] ( === cj_ [n=cj@125.5.162.22] has joined #kubuntu [02:56] this is what it SHOULD look like http://pastebin.ca/490462 [02:56] how do i know what user php is running under === unix_infidel [n=blue@unaffiliated/unixinfidel/x-8383745] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] eek [02:57] whats goin on [02:57] everything should not be %100 [02:57] :( [02:57] I have never see this Jack3 [02:57] Jack3: May I suggest that you reboot? [02:57] go over to #linux. === MATADIO [n=ubuntu@bas1-kingston08-1128702670.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] maybe they can help over there. [02:57] Note that everything also has the same size and usage. [02:57] he's in a Live cd, chrooted. [02:58] I know [02:58] weird eh? [02:58] the whole partition thing isnt working [02:58] and now my windows is messed up [02:58] :( === vinces1979 [n=vinces19@d38-40-106.commercial1.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:59] have a question about kmail and adding a vcard to my email :-S === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [03:00] question is unanswerable unless stated. [03:00] well Jack3: I have to go... I hope someone else can solve your problem [03:00] :( thx [03:00] i need help partitioning [03:00] how does one add a vcard contact info, to kmail.. === nosrednaekim [n=michael@05-103.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu [] === paul__ [n=paul@modemcable025.89-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [03:01] mofo: I've had trouble importing apple vcards... [03:01] mofo: Try this: save the file. [03:01] I/m trying to write a email, and send a vcard threw kmail to my client. [03:02] mofo: Ok, right click on contact, choose Send Contact. [03:03] If you can help with partitioning, query me! [03:03] hmm, right click on contact, and send contact info [03:04] mofo: in kaddressbook. [03:04] ok [03:04] can that be done threw kmail ?? [03:05] well, yeah, open the addressbook in kmail - that's kaddressbook. [03:06] okay, [03:06] tks === mofo [n=rn@cpe-72-184-186-170.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [03:06] can i get help with partitioning === ` [n=tang@60.191.45.226] has joined #kubuntu [03:07] MATADIO: Possibly. What help do you want. === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.178.243] has joined #kubuntu [03:09] Has anyone been having problems with Ktorrent? Ktorrent seems to work fine, but some time within a half an hour it crashes and I get a KDE Trace Crash box.... [03:09] i want to dual partition my drive so i can run windows and kde, sounds simple but its not working [03:09] and it killed my windows [03:09] MATADIO: I ran dual boot Windows/Kubuntu....what's the problem? === emet [n=emet@unaffiliated/emet] has joined #kubuntu [03:12] i cant get it to work [03:12] it wont let me resize the windows partition [03:12] :@ === daphbobo [n=nats@196.218.151.5] has joined #kubuntu [03:14] MATADIO: Using QT parted? [03:14] MATADIO: What tool are you using? [03:14] MATADIO: Should be able to.....you may want to install windows and set the partition size smaller that way... [03:15] MATADIO: That way when you install Kubuntu it can install to unpartitioned space.... [03:17] If it doesn't talk, we eats it. [03:17] Is there a way to change between embedded movie players? === david2 [n=david2@cpe-24-162-105-224.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:18] ugh I need to figure out how to get more signal strenght from my wireless router [03:18] Coldwar55: You can right-click on the player itself and change it in the configure menu....between Xine, Mplayer, and Gstreamer (if installed) I believe... [03:18] Because I installed Mplayer [03:18] Then I installed Totem [03:18] And I seriously dislike totem [03:19] because it messes with the colors [03:19] Coldwar55: When the player is open, hover over the menu and right-click, do you see a 'configure' menu? [03:19] In the Browser Window? [03:20] Coldwar55: Yeah.....but I have only tested this solution in a separate open browser embedded video... [03:20] Ok [03:20] Well no I don't [03:20] All I get is [03:20] About and open Movie in player === luis_lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-77-153.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:20] And copy location [03:20] Using FireFox [03:20] Coldwar55: Try opening it to a separate player...then repeat [03:21] Nope nothing in Totem that has Configure === Dekkard [n=right@adsl-68-73-7-46.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:23] scuse me.. what is the name of the package that enables mp3 playback with aRts(noatun etc)? [03:23] Maybe I should just remove Totem all together [03:23] Since it gives horribly play back quality [03:24] Dekkard: libxine-extracodecs i think === jgibbar [n=jgibbar@74-137-57-196.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu === boob [n=assboob@davenport8p240.dial.brightok.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:24] hmm [03:25] already have that installed noatun wont play mp3.. just ogg [03:25] can someone help me with packages [03:25] Thanks anyways jordor23 [03:25] I'll just remove totem [03:25] i have a php script that writes a file and I it will not write the file. permission problem and i can't narrow it down [03:26] adept manager keeps telling me that the database is locked [03:26] i'm trying to install fglrx 8.36.5 and i followed the guide on cchtml down to the dot but am still getting mesa [03:26] anyone use a repeater? === Iwonder|too is now known as iwonder|away === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-081.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:28] jgibbar: run adept as root [03:28] I don't currently but I have in the past david2 [03:29] what do I type after kdesu in the run prompt for adept === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === creadorcreativo [n=insane@164.77.219.161] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@201.255.159.205] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@189.174.232.14] has joined #kubuntu [03:30] never mind I ran adept as root and I get this message "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one." [03:31] I have already tried to reboot and I can't find anything else running [03:31] !adeptfix [03:31] If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a === hivemind [n=kasdaye@S010600179a9f2971.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === young [n=young@58.141.8.230] has joined #kubuntu === e1mer [n=elmer@tequilla.exist.com] has joined #kubuntu === steffen [n=steffen@ti531210a080-5557.bb.online.no] has joined #kubuntu === jag__ is now known as jager [03:34] ok now adept won't start, I copying your text and just pasted it into konsole === _emet_ [n=emet@unaffiliated/emet] has joined #kubuntu [03:34] copied^ === lascar [n=AJ@c-68-39-66-86.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] [03:35] is there a firewall installed when i install linux? [03:35] jgibbar: hmmm ok. [03:35] that was the bots text. [03:35] ugh [03:35] steffen, yes, but not enabled by default [03:35] !iptables | steffen [03:35] steffen: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE). [03:35] need to wait on this === brujo [n=brujo@host171.190-136-129.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu [03:36] anyone have any Ideas, should I just try to reboot again? [03:36] Arwen: thanks. [03:36] jgibbar: yeah maybe you should try that again. === Freejack_CSI [n=Freejack@71-8-78-223.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === dsmith_ [n=dsmith@c-68-33-164-177.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:38] Even Bill Gates recommends Ubuntu... http://www.fayerwayer.com/up/2007/04/bill_gates_ubuntu_mini.jpg [03:39] lol that's awesome [03:39] umm..ok === jgibbar [n=jgibbar@74-137-57-196.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:40] Ok the reboot lets adept run again thanks for all the help [03:41] NP === thumper [n=tim@canonical/launchpad/thumper] has joined #kubuntu [03:41] im puting that in my consulting folder [03:41] :P === ltmon [n=ltmon@210-15-225-178-static.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [03:41] anyone using beryl? [03:41] i do [03:41] sometimes [03:41] one more thing I have been trouble finding libdvdcss2 any suggestions on that? [03:42] I had all my window title bars go grey and unselectable === santote [n=santote@103.Red-83-32-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:42] !libdvdcss [03:42] For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs [03:42] could move any windows [03:42] or change virtual desktops of them [03:42] :( === rmd_ [n=jason@h75.224.39.162.ip.alltel.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:42] !beryl [03:42] Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects [03:42] ta [03:42] thumper: ok....you don't have a compositiing windows manager.. [03:42] *window === deep [n=deep@c-a52a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [03:43] nosrednaekim: ?? [03:43] do you have an nvidia card? or an ATI? === Trevinho [n=Trevi@adsl-ull-18-184.41-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu === CCmonster [n=butters@c-68-58-56-4.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:44] damn guarddog is confusing [03:44] nosrednaekim: using intel === ltmon [n=ltmon@210-15-225-178-static.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === keisangi [n=keisangi@221x117x88x251.ap221.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #kubuntu === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-96309ad1e84b06f5] has joined #kubuntu [03:47] i can't seem to set my SSH_ASKPASS environment variable. I've tried putting "export SSH_ASKPASS=blah" in .xsession, .xinitrc, .bashrc, .bash_login -- but no matter what it doesn't seem to be recognized, "echo $SSH_ASKPASS" is blank and it's not in the output of "export". Anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong? === santote [n=santote@103.Red-83-32-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:48] thumper: ok....how did you start beryl? === tokin [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-228-60.zoominternet.net] has joined #kubuntu === mikeyman77 [n=mikeyg@cpe-67-49-214-41.bak.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === intelikey [n=UN-root@dialup-4.89.252.186.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-021-017.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:50] hmmm i installed windows on my hdc and now that disk wont boot. it says not a valid boot disk === routh [n=routh@bas2-kingston08-1167930047.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu === juanbox4 [n=juan@190.65.209.68] has joined #kubuntu === goat [n=chatzill@ip70-160-167-71.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:51] I need help anyone not busy? [03:51] so it did write to the mbr but didn't make it bootable errr made it unbootable. could boot grub there befor [03:51] routh: ask away === craffop_ [n=craffop@c-66-177-95-71.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:51] anyone want to help a dumbass ( namely me ) get google earth installed? === hitmanWilly [n=hitmanWi@66-190-176-18.static.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:52] I did an update after a fresh install of kubuntu dapper and now I don't have any access permissions to usb drives [03:52] hitmanWilly likes helping that type goat [03:52] I can't figure out why it won't give me access... [03:52] nosrednaekim: not running it right now, rebooted [03:52] how DID you start it? [03:53] nosrednaekim: but I think I started it using beryl-manager from the command line === pereira [n=pereira@201-1-48-135.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu [03:53] thumper: ok...first you have to start "beryl" [03:53] and THEN beryl-manager [03:53] hitmanWilly: you like helping dumbies? I am trying to show my mom her house on google earth real quick [03:53] quote even [03:54] figured it would be in adept... I was wrong === Ropetin_ [n=ropetin@c-65-34-170-159.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [03:56] aw man grub is not installed. so i don't guess i will just reinstall grub on that drive [03:56] nosrednaekim: I did an update on kubuntu and now I can't access any usbdisk drives that are inserted - says I don't have access permissions - because the drive is an NTFS it won't let me chmod as it's a RO filesystem - and messing with fstab has proved unusefil. But befreo the update it worked perfect, I can't firgure what the update changed.. [03:57] do you have "fuse" and ntfs-3g installed? [03:57] goat the hitman said you have to go to google and dl the installer [03:58] goat: you have to go to google itself and download the installer, feisty's commercial repos still haven't been filled up yet === aro [n=aro@53.181.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:58] intelikey thank you [03:58] and hitman willy as well [03:58] I am sorry for not searching more [03:58] np... [03:58] moms just trying to get to bed [03:58] and knew you guys would not stear me wrong [03:58] I was right [03:58] THANK YOU [04:00] nosrednaekim: was that fuse and ntfs-3g meant for me? [04:00] routh: yeah... sorry [04:00] lemme check === Black5un is now known as ^SuRe[sl33p] [04:03] libfuse - fuse-utils - which do you mean? I don't see a plain 'fuse package - at any rate none of those are installed === hatekilldestroy [n=lee@24-107-112-195.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === dsmith__ [n=dsmith@c-68-33-164-177.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === tylerness [n=tylernes@host-114-39-111-24.midco.net] has joined #kubuntu === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu [04:05] yeah.. I think you need both of those... as well as ntfs-3g [04:05] routh: ^^ [04:05] hello [04:05] can i get a list of ports that are used? (ex. 83464 eggdrop) [04:05] nosrednaekim: nothing ntfs related is installed either - which is weird since it worked before - I can't find an "ntfs-3g" just ntfsprogs and ntfstools [04:05] !ntfs-3g [04:05] ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions === tinin [n=tinin@181.Red-88-8-209.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:06] nosredneakim: I should mention I'm on kubuntu dapper [04:06] hmm....ok === Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-55.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu [04:07] possably back-ports but not in the main *verse dapper repos === kristjan_ [n=kristjan@ubr2-217-33.narva.stv.ee] has joined #kubuntu [04:08] ok... yeah I guess so. === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-081.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu [] [04:08] Do I understand it correctly - http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php - you can install kde4 safely alongside kde3.5? [04:09] kristjan_: yes === RadiantFire_ [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu === se7en [n=se7en@125-24-141-143.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:09] define safely === pyrosim [n=pyrosim@75-161-24-84.albq.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:11] crashes are likely with kde4 so safely isnt the word i would use. [04:11] gnomefreak: won't screw my existing kde [04:11] yeah safe ? safe as in a safty deposit box, or safe as in safe sex ? [04:11] kristjan_: no it shouldnt === buttercup [n=buttercu@SY-18-234.resnet.ucsb.edu] has joined #kubuntu [04:11] intelikey: I can't see similarities between desktop and sex? [04:12] you must have never seen my backgrounds than :) === Ding [n=owner@216.171.157.87] has joined #kubuntu [04:12] wow, kristjan_, how long have you been hanging around linux users? [04:12] kristjan_ good for you [04:12] intelikey and hitmanwilley thanks again I am rocking and rolling with google earth now [04:13] she ( my mom ) has never seen anything so interesting as google earth before [04:13] goat sorry for any confusion. and you're welcome [04:13] I tried everything you pointed me to for dvd playback but I still get this message with gxine <> === gnomefreak gone to find something to graze on [04:13] LOL my mom just said to (type thank you for me too) [04:13] jgibbar: make sure you have all libxine packages installed and you use regionset [04:13] greexen sounds good. [04:13] or whatever its called [04:13] greezen [04:14] out ;) === zerozero [n=zerozero@unaffiliated/zerozero] has joined #kubuntu === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #kubuntu === GWillakers [n=dale@netblock-68-183-7-7.dslextreme.com] has joined #kubuntu === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === MurcimiRiAm28 [n=ircap8@89.240.240.87] has joined #kubuntu [04:21] hmm, it seems installing kde4 requires removing apport [04:21] hola a tod@s [04:21] :D === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@97-81-77-205.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === PsiKloPx [n=Psi@ppp-70-254-41-78.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@97-81-77-205.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:22] gnomefreak: still did not work, tired of fooling with it, too hungry I will try later, thanks though, so far beats the crap out of vista [04:22] When do I have to run "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib" http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php === chi0_ [n=chi0@63-227-46-133.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:23] google earth is sweet [04:24] worth the effort to install [04:24] in if its ported === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@pool-71-115-206-112.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === jbrouhard [n=jbrouhar@cm-207-192-193-222.stjoseph.mo.npgco.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:24] evn if [04:24] http://www.nuevointernet.com/votar.asp?id=84 [04:24] :D === chi0__ [n=chi0@63-227-46-133.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu is now known as Jack3 [04:25] I just switched over from PCLinux0S to Kubuntu (dual booting with Windows MC) and am having problems getting beryl to work. no errors. Just nothing changes. Any ideas? === os2mac [n=jim@209.193.53.178] has joined #kubuntu === ironcladlou [n=ironclad@c-76-23-113-84.hsd1.sc.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === ironcladlou is now known as rottenapl === rottenapl is now known as ironcladlou [04:27] PsiKloPx: #ubuntu-effects [04:27] thanx [04:28] crap [04:28] i just fixed my 0bytes free problem [04:28] but now theres something new [04:28] ok moms in bed now... [04:28] Jucato: do I have to run "export" commands if I choose to create "kde4" login in kdm? [04:28] using kubuntu feisty, every new window i open (no matter what the application) appears in the lower left of my screen. what gives? [04:28] the swap file partition says it cant mount when i try to boot up [04:28] any idea on how to fix that [04:28] whats the best channel to help me install the ATI mobility 9000 drivers [04:29] kristjan_: the instructions are on that page. you'd have to include the export commands in a config file (forgot which) [04:29] NOTE: no protected driver manager in Kubuntu [04:31] goat: follow the edgy (6.10) instructions, they should still work for feisty === cpk1 [n=cpk1@sjs-130-65-211-115.sjsu.edu] has joined #kubuntu [04:32] jack3 you might format it again. sudo mkswap /dev/ [04:32] hitmanwilley: sorry to be thick headed. where are these docs? [04:32] I can't seem to phrase my searches well tonight [04:32] !ati | goat [04:32] goat: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [04:32] and end up all over [04:32] intelikey, will that ruin my linux install? [04:32] thank you yet again [04:32] you guys are great [04:33] jack3 not if you input the correct devicenode. sudo fdisk -l to see the partition tables [04:33] jack3 do you need swap ? === herk_ [n=herk@72.24.165.32] has joined #kubuntu [04:34] i duno [04:34] its sda6 [04:34] how you get ut2004 working 64 bit? [04:35] Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 1052798 kB [04:35] no label, UUID=8d55bcf1-de70-4161-8f1d-d057ef689ca [04:35] should I still follow the advice about NOT installing the control panel.. or have the bugs been worked out? [04:35] does that mean it worked? === Carnage\ [n=carnage@ppp-124.121.104.118.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #kubuntu [04:36] jack3 blkid and see what sda6 is now and then set it accordingly in /etc/fstab [04:36] assuming your swap is ran through fstab.... [04:36] libstdc++.so.5 ?? what package is that? === thumper [n=tim@canonical/launchpad/thumper] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:37] libstdc++5 or libstdc++5-3.3-dev ?? [04:37] I just bought a new hard drive. I would like to move everything Linux/Kubuntu from the smaller hard drive to the bigger one. Anyone have a good idea how to start? [04:37] david2 i would assume libstdc++5 yes. i only have libstdc++6 [04:38] david2: installed the package "build-essential"? [04:38] whathe command line text editror? [04:38] i did [04:38] whats* [04:38] nano [04:38] thx [04:38] hm... [04:38] np [04:38] intelikey, do i need to change this /dev/sda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 [04:39] shouldn't. [04:39] alrite, i guess ill try to restart [04:39] jack3 only if it was using the blkid and the blkid changes with a reformat [04:39] I know I would need to make 3 partitions on the new drive. 1 for /, swap and /home. *but* what else should I do? I know I need to tell grub but anything else, anyone? [04:39] so short answer no === hybrid [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #kubuntu [04:40] Jucato: you were right, insctuction about export are in the end of the article [04:40] okay thx === Black5un|away [n=mr@cpe-71-79-229-244.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:40] vbgunz the installer will make the partitions just make free unallocated space and go. === lunar-raven [n=lunar-ra@71-36-32-180.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:41] intelikey: sorry. I already installed Kubuntu a year ago. I just bought a bigger hard drive and don't want to reinstall. I want to *move* everything linux/Kubuntu off off that one drive and onto the bigger one. I need to edit, fstab and grub and move? is that all? [04:42] ah a migration. [04:42] I guess you can say that :) [04:42] Jucato: could you please look at your /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde - are the "export" lines at very top of the file, or after "#!/bin/sh"? [04:43] kristjan_: I don't have kde4 installed [04:43] vbgunz then sudo fdisk -l and see what partitions the old disk is using and set the new one accordingly [04:43] intelikey, yes. I was going to do that. but to make it successful, I edit fstab and grub. is that all? [04:44] can the "export" lines be placed at the _very_ top of #!/bin/sh ? [04:44] kristjan_: but mostly everything comes after #!/bin/sh [04:44] /boot/grub/devices.list [04:44] err tab complete that ^ [04:44] i don't think it's plural [04:44] kristjan_: or rather, all shell scripts must begin with #!/bin/sh (called the shebang) === james [n=james@164.11.44.8] has joined #kubuntu === eye_ [n=eye@201.198.1.182] has joined #kubuntu [04:45] or #!/bin/bash, #!/bin/csh, #!/bin/ksh, etc :) [04:46] yeah, well... :) [04:46] does anyone know how to bandwidth throttle users using my ubuntu server as a router? === _czessi is now known as Czessi [04:46] vbgunz yes if grub can boot it and the root is set to the correct device node that snould be all you need === ehc [n=x@wall.pacinfo.com] has joined #kubuntu === hodgejj [n=hodgejj@c-67-177-68-16.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === pereira [n=pereira@201-0-24-187.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu [04:46] Jucato: I think this is ok then http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1268/pilt2je0.png ? === tom_ [n=tom@cpe-69-207-251-142.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === bassgoon [i=Aaron@65.110.253.205] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === urli [n=urli@201.234.174.34] has joined #kubuntu [04:47] kristjan_: looks ok to me, if that's what the instructions say. oh and next time, you could just use a pastebin to show text :) [04:47] !pastebin | kristjan_ [04:47] kristjan_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) [04:47] hey I put in the dvd, and selected install, its an older 1.2ghz celeron with 512mb of ram...but it seems to be taking a LONG time to load === mcrandello [n=mcrandel@node195.wireless3.outside.ucf.edu] has joined #kubuntu [04:48] hitmanWilly heh or #!/usr/bin/expect -e === mcrandello [n=mcrandel@node195.wireless3.outside.ucf.edu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:48] lol [04:48] oh [04:48] there it goes [04:48] but it says user no known to the underlying authentication module [04:48] is that normal...? [04:49] bassgoon: live cd's/dvd's always take awhile [04:49] ok [04:49] it says failed to read block" [04:49] and failed to read page [04:49] sound like a bad disc? [04:49] yep === Hatsuyuki [n=hatsuyuk@67-42-156-219.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:49] bingo [04:49] well...the data verification passed... [04:49] should be a disk test option [04:50] yeah that [04:50] md5's are not foolproof [04:50] well [04:50] it passed neros verification [04:50] when it burned === kristjan_ [n=kristjan@ubr2-217-33.narva.stv.ee] has joined #kubuntu [04:50] bad img download possibly as well === zhangkai [n=zhangkai@222.132.86.138] has joined #kubuntu [04:50] haha, it crashed after 4secs I logged in [04:50] possible [04:50] took so dang long to dl [04:50] maybe I'll just try the cd [04:50] bassgoon no. on the disk it's self, one boot option is test this disk ? [04:51] yeah [04:51] I'm trying it [04:51] or verify this disk [04:51] this maky take some time... [04:51] :p [04:51] well thanks for helping an impatient noob :p === Search4Lancer [n=redphoen@c-68-80-88-216.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Secutor [n=mark@c-67-169-16-102.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:52] what's the difference between an 'alternate' and a 'desktop' iso? [04:52] bassgoon: alternate doesn't have livecd [04:52] oh === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [04:52] so if I just want to install... [04:52] bassgoon: Desktop CD = Live CD with graphical installer [04:53] Alternate Install CD = text-based installer with more advanced options [04:53] ah [04:53] hey at least we didn't do you like the call in support on most things anymore. they put talking to a machine for at least 5 minutes. not because they are all busy, oh no. it's so you will cool off and not bless them out... === kristjan_ gives another try to kde4 [04:53] I can probably swing the text based one [04:53] not a total noob [04:53] :p [04:53] Does anyone know anything about gtkmm? [04:54] eye_: try if there's a #gtk channel? [04:54] does kubuntu usually recognize all the devices on older dell laptops? === dani [n=dani@201.197.25.78] has joined #kubuntu [04:54] the text mode installer is easy peasy even if you ARE a noob (back when I first tried kubuntu (breezy) there was only text installer) [04:54] Hatsuyuki, I've tried a lot of crazy linux distros before [04:54] Jucato, yes! thank you! [04:55] I tried gentoo 64, and fc3 x64 [04:55] oh 64-bit... [04:55] wouldnt call (k)ubuntu crazy personally but I <3 it sooo... lol [04:55] Hatsuyuki, no I wouldn't either [04:55] fc3 x64 and 2006.1 gentoo x64 [04:55] bassgoon: u should have np [04:55] Hatsuyuki some would [04:55] crazy [04:55] what about linksys wireless cards === rafael [n=rafael@190.48.205.151] has joined #kubuntu [04:56] true, intelikey [04:56] Hi! Quick question, I installed ssh, and my public IP is 201.197.25.78. [04:56] (crazy) that would be in #ubuntu this is #kubuntu we say (krazy) in here... :) [04:56] lol [04:57] very true [04:57] in #ubuntu wouldn't it be grazy? [04:57] rofl [04:57] lol, could be [04:57] I tried to connect from my job, an Internal Network. I get into the login screen (konsole) somehow my authentication credentials never works... [04:57] gcrazy [04:57] ... am I missing something? [04:57] intelikey, there you go [04:58] indeed (not that I have a problem with gtk apps tho) === kristjan_ [n=kristjan@ubr2-217-33.narva.stv.ee] has joined #kubuntu [04:58] is a 1.2ghz celeron a more likely candidate for xubuntu? === trpr [n=ftg2@24-116-68-3.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:58] dani using a password or a key [04:58] ? === Dhraakellian [n=ntryon@cpe-66-67-55-191.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:58] nah, I'll try kde4 with that livecd instead [04:58] $ glxgears [04:58] Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". [04:58] Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual === ober0ne [n=jeff@bas3-london14-1096787367.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu === obvio171 [n=helder@201.72.61.113] has joined #kubuntu [04:59] what? I'm sorry I didn't catch you intelikey.... [04:59] kristjan_: much better if you just want to preview it. installing KDE 4 at this point is still for developers [04:59] bassgoon: you should be alright, this isn't M$ software here [04:59] bassgoon why ? i run kubuntu on a p1mmx 100mhz [04:59] I've used all three k/x/ubuntu on a 500 mhz athalon mp so it's more a matter of taste, bassgoon [04:59] hehe [04:59] I know i like kde more [04:59] Jucato: yeah it just crashes, but those new icons are nice :) [04:59] dani your auth method password or ssh-key [04:59] you can easily make it behave like windows explorer ;) === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #kubuntu [05:00] how do you go about mounting an ntfs drive in feisty? [05:00] Jucato, nobody wants to help me :( [05:00] ober0ne, personally I avoid mounting ntfs from linux... [05:00] :/ [05:00] lol [05:00] Hi! Quick question, I installed ssh, and my public IP is 201.197.25.78. I tried to connect from my job, an Internal Network. I get into the login screen (konsole) somehow my authentication credentials never works... [05:00] I understand that [05:00] eye_: did they say that? or is it just because no one replies? big difference there [05:00] I dont know ober0ne, I have no ntfs drives [05:01] hmm... correct monitor (IBM 6557 P92), correct graphics card (geforce2 with proprietary drivers) [05:01] ober0ne: either as type ntfs, (read-only), or with ntfs-3g (rw) === em2hef_ [n=em2hef@69.79.119.97] has joined #kubuntu === velle__ [n=velle@ip-26-137.bnaa.dk] has joined #kubuntu [05:01] dani i saw that. are you "typing in a password" or using an ssh-key for the authentication ? [05:01] I just got the 3g package a few minutes ago, but I can't seem to find where it installed to === MHazem [n=GoD@82.201.178.206] has joined #Kubuntu [05:02] ober0ne: just mount it normal w/ type ntfs-3g [05:02] dani, what's the pw, i'll try from here! :) [05:02] ok, so how do I do that? === dr_willis [n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:02] what command do I enter in the terminal? [05:02] sudo mount sda1? [05:02] GWillakers heh i though of that... [05:02] ober0ne: you can check in adept/synaptic where it installed to === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [05:03] Jucato. Sorry, no one replies. I don't speak English very well, so I say that because it's too hard for me to explain me [05:03] ober0ne: mount -t ntfs-3g [05:03] how do I know my mountpoint? [05:03] I'm jazzed... there was a samba update today that fixed all of my networking problems!! [05:03] !mount | ober0ne [05:03] ober0ne: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter [05:04] eye_: well, this is IRC support. just because no one replies doesn't mean they don't "want" to help. it just means that 1) no one there to read your questions (lots of people just lurk around), 2) those who can read it don't know the answer === surgy [n=surgy@adsl-70-137-20-94.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:04] !diskmounter [05:04] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse [05:04] sudo mount -o fmask=111,dmask=000 -t ntfs-3g [05:05] eye_ you might find a support channel that talks your tongue [05:05] Ok, Jucato, I Know, I'm so sorry, you know what it happen [05:05] Jucato, I know that www.gtkmm.org exists, but all is in English, so I don't understand [05:06] ah, well... sorry couldn't help you out === hangthedj [n=crazyrob@Wheeler-pbdsl5.Stanford.EDU] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [05:07] !es | eye_ [05:07] eye_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda. === Alpha_Cluster [n=nick@bsu195102.bemidjistate.edu] has joined #kubuntu === david2 [n=david2@cpe-24-162-105-224.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === tin [n=foil@c-24-147-118-193.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:09] intelikey, yes, but nobody knows about that, thank you, and you many times had help me and never says me that I don't speak English === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@pool-71-115-206-112.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu is now known as Jack3_ === KPShubert [n=kvirc@c-68-51-51-198.hsd1.ar.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:11] eye_ we do what we can. and your english is better than mine sometimes [05:11] thanks... got it running [05:12] no reason now for me to ever go back to windoze! [05:12] *maniacal laugh* [05:12] wasn't in the first place... [05:12] :) [05:12] grats, ober0ne [05:12] tnx [05:12] hey guys [05:12] small rpoblme [05:13] the swap isnt mountin still [05:13] thanks to vlc, I can watch DVD's, listen to all my music, and thanks to you guys I can still use my windows partition [05:13] I love you guys [05:13] Jack3_ can you enable it manually ? [05:13] did your fstb someone get messed up, Jack3_? [05:13] how??/ [05:13] jajaja, intelikey, I'm sorry, I forgot that you're not from US, And thank you for all! [05:13] Jack3_ sudo swapon /dev/sda6 === leileilol [n=Hsi@c-75-68-37-174.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:13] eye_ welcome. [05:14] swapon: cannot stat /dev/sda6: No such file or directory [05:14] i use vlc under windows even. :) [05:14] but thats probably cause im using chroot in the mounted sda5 [05:14] from the livecd === linuxnobb [n=kerbanos@user-0cceluo.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:14] hi, is 7.0 beta? [05:14] which one is the damn stable version for christ sake!!!! [05:15] yeah. the device nodes are not there Jack3_ you can try out of the chroot. [05:15] feisty was just released. [05:15] its now considered stable. === style_ [n=style@CPE-24-163-128-75.new.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:15] feisty 7.04 is stable [05:15] ok thanks [05:15] Jack3_ same command not in the chroot [05:15] does anyone here know if qt4-dev-tools is supposed to add menu items cause i thought it did [05:15] wheew [05:15] its not the "long term support" canadite however. :) [05:15] i think.. [05:15] nope, not LTS [05:16] but veryt put together =) [05:16] so is or isn't it??? [05:16] isent what? [05:16] linuxnobb: depends what you mean by stable [05:16] its stable but not LTS :) [05:16] it's the curent stable and there is a LTS called dapper [05:16] by stable I mean for a non techie non-geeky person [05:16] so if you were a business.... you most likely would want to use LTS. [05:16] both are supported right now [05:17] Alpha_Cluster: Qt4 Designer isn't in your menus? [05:17] na, this is for home use [05:17] it contains "stable" (not beta) software, but hasn't been designated as a "long term support" release [05:17] swapon: /dev/sda6: Device or resource busy [05:17] Jucato: no its confusing me >.< [05:17] then I'd go for feisty personally, linuxnobb === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [05:17] Alpha_Cluster: nothing in K Menu -> Development? [05:17] linuxnobb it was released, so no longer in the development stage, i.e. not beta not alpha [05:17] Jack3_: that means its probably already on [05:17] OMFG!!! [05:17] well soemthing is really wrong [05:17] Jucato: just KDevelop which i also have installed [05:17] 1/2 beta?? [05:17] lol [05:17] when i login from normal kubuntu, the kde window manager doesnt load [05:17] no, it's stable [05:17] Alpha_Cluster: if you just installed it, and it didn't happen to update automatically, try running this command "kbuildsycoca --incremental" ignore the errors [05:18] ok 7.0 right? [05:18] just a konsole pops up, it has no close or minimize buttons on it [05:18] 7.04 [05:18] thanks [05:18] Jack3_ maybe not. what does free tell you ? [05:18] and trying kded says its already running [05:18] np [05:18] free? [05:18] Jucato: still no [05:18] swap says 1028120 free [05:18] Alpha_Cluster: hm.. try if qt designer is installed at all... I forgot the executable name [05:18] yeah if the swap partition is active free will show it [05:19] Alpha_Cluster: I think "designer" [05:19] Alpha_Cluster: ah my bad [05:19] Jack3_: why are you running chroot'ed from the liveCD kernel? [05:19] qt designer is only a "recommends", not a "depends". no it doesn't install any GUI app it seems [05:19] Jucato: just did that with reinstaling it and nothing [05:19] tin, i duno :\ [05:20] i just have lots of problems [05:20] and its impossible to work sincei have 1 computer [05:20] c'mon Shuttleworth make KDE4 stable fast!! can't wait.. [05:20] :( [05:20] Alpha_Cluster: qt4-dev-tools doesn't seem to install any GUI app. probably comand line tools only [05:20] problems like you can't boot straight to the disk? [05:20] swapon -s gives a bit of info. [05:20] Jack3_ then the swap partition is active and about 1G in size. boot the system and run free and see if it's activated there. [05:20] Jucato: well i also have qt4-designer installed but that isnt appearing [05:20] ok that's weird... [05:20] hehhe -root: swapon: command not found [05:20] lol yeah it is [05:21] look, how long KDE4 will take to become stable? [05:21] and when i try and run qt4-designer it says it doesnt exist [05:21] i am guessing at least 6 mo. [05:21] perhaps more then a year. [05:21] linuxnobb: supposedly by the end of the year [05:21] according to the release shedule it's planned on being released in october [05:21] intelikey, i know its not activated on the system [05:21] Alpha_Cluster: how about running it with "designer" only? [05:22] when i did ubuntu failsafe [05:22] i typed startx [05:22] linuxnobb: october 23 (5 days after gutsy release) is current release date [05:22] and it started kde and all [05:22] so i did ctrl esc [05:22] i hate to see things rushed to just meet a deadlline. [05:22] and it said no swap available [05:22] s/current/target [05:22] Jucato: ok yeah then it works [05:22] got wonderful QT 4.2.3 designer [05:22] this is retarded European servers are faster than USA Empire === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [05:22] Jack3_ why failsafe ? [05:22] dr_willis: knowing KDE, it won't probably release in 23 Oct if it's not ready yet ;) === kalorin` [n=kalorin@216.68.219.122] has joined #kubuntu [05:23] Jucato, yep - i hope not. [05:23] Alpha_Cluster: there you have it :) [05:23] Jucato: lol thanks [05:23] i feel stupid now lol [05:23] which means gutsy +1 will more then likely be the first release I try KDE4 lol [05:23] dr_willis: of course, I don't want them to release in 2008 either :P [05:23] given how its such a big jump. Ive not even tested any of the kde4 releases/betas stuff [05:23] intelikey, because normal ubuntu doesnt start [05:23] as i said === joe32 [n=jose@201.249.20.156] has joined #kubuntu [05:23] Hatsuyuki: most probably *not* === kilrae_ [n=kilrae@CPE000f66055f14-CM0012256eb698.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:23] the kde doesnt start, just a console sometimes [05:23] i really dont know what im doing but i know something is really wrong [05:23] Ah i just cant wait till we get at least some more usable version [05:23] enough time for some post-release bug fixes, lol [05:23] why, Jucato? [05:23] anyway, they will be releasing separate KDE 4 packages, or maybe even CD's for it [05:24] Hatsuyuki: they're planning 8.04 to be the next LTS [05:24] ah, okay [05:24] and they don't want KDE 4.0 on an LTS release [05:24] yeah so we wont see KDE4 as default till afetr [05:24] makes sense [05:24] though isnt there supposed to be avalable as an alt? [05:24] Alpha_Cluster: that's the plan [05:25] so gutsy +2 then... should be quite stable by then I think [05:25] a separate CD. [05:25] guys is the alternate install with LVM support LiveCD? [05:25] Hatsuyuki: i hope so [05:25] lol [05:25] anyway, we already have separate KDE repositories anyway [05:25] Jucato: yeah but 4 is still not very nice lol [05:25] true but they always seem buggy for me.. [05:25] Jack3_ ok. being the confused communications and the haphazard system. i'll just resort to answering your questions. and stop making things more perplexing. [05:25] Alpha_Cluster: it's called Alpha for a reason :) [05:25] guys!!! is alternate install with LVM support? [05:25] please somebody [05:26] Hatsuyuki: yes, it's "Alpha" :) [05:26] Jucato: oh i know lol but i want to do some development stuff lol [05:26] linuxnobb: yes [05:26] anyways, i really dont know what to do [05:26] im a CS student that is just about to be going on Summer break [05:26] I meant even when a new KDE 3.5 gets packaged [05:26] to say the least you guys will see me a bit here lol [05:26] because something is causing a major problem, and it seems like it might be swap, but i dunno how to fix that [05:27] Alpha_Cluster: well, the presumption would be you should already know your way around a bit if you want to do development stuff. anyway, #kubunt-devel would be a nice place to ask about the kde4 packages and #kde4-devel for KDE 4 development [05:27] the ones in dapper/edgy were always buggy for me [05:27] Jack3_ just a thought i'd like to share though. unless your system has less than 64m ram, then swap not being active is probably not the cause of kde not starting correctly. [05:27] ive got 512mb [05:27] Jucato: yeah i figured so but im just waiting till more stuff is ready in it till i try out too much stuff [05:27] Hatsuyuki: well it depends. for example KDE 3.5.4 was a relatively buggy release really [05:27] is there some error log i can check? [05:28] Alpha_Cluster: well, part of helping in development is trying to report bugs/problems in the packages. they can't fix what they don't know :) [05:28] yes Jack3_ in /var/log/ check xorg* and messages === Dhraakellian [n=ntryon@cpe-66-67-55-191.rochester.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Meddle] [05:28] the release that goes into the official kubuntu releases always seems fine so I've decided to stick with them til next kubuntu release (though I have no probs updating amarok/koffice ;) ) [05:28] Jack3_ also might look for any kdm* files. [05:28] Jucato: lol i need to boot into it first and i still have a small fear of entering long lists of terminal commands and hoping not to break an install so im looking at gettin down teh qt basics first [05:29] "i still have a small fear of entering long lists of terminal commands" <--- first thing you have to overcome as an aspiring developer :D [05:29] Jucato: i know >.< === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === intelikey likes Dhraakellian's quit message [05:30] its not so much the fact its a lot of commands i just am scared of breaking stuff with kde4 libs lol [05:30] oh don't worry. the kde4 packages on Kubuntu are installed in a completely different location from kde3 [05:30] True === mo0osah [n=mo0osah@ppp-70-247-197-128.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:30] so there's a low chance of any breakage [05:30] of course, there's another "better" way if you want [05:30] a command string is not long until it's over 1k chars [05:31] compile KDE from source [05:31] lol yeah [05:31] i hope to get to that point [05:31] well he did say "long lists" not "long commands" :) [05:31] oh. sorry. was busy with someone and only caught the tail of that. [05:32] lol its the breaking i fear not the length so much === MHazem [n=GoD@62.135.96.65] has joined #Kubuntu [05:32] i mean ive even tried LFS [05:32] backup backup backup :) [05:32] rewind ? [05:32] lol yeah i got that one down now after my last fiasco >.< [05:32] developers developers developers === bassgoon [i=Aaron@65.110.253.205] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@port0002-abm-static-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:32] oh backup [05:32] ahh ballmer is here [05:32] :) :) :) === hitmanWilly ducks flying chair [05:33] :P === Rictoo [n=rictoo@adsl-70-135-227-5.dsl.hrlntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:33] What would be the alt+F4 equivalent in kubuntu? === intelikey is probably supposed to be insulted... just that ignorance prevents it. === hansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === Jucato wields his C++ Sword of Ignorance -4 === sakabatou_ [n=sakabato@sb-217-129-120-240.netvisao.pt] has joined #kubuntu [05:34] Rictoo: alt-f4 [05:34] lol [05:34] wow i broke emacs i think [05:34] Rictoo alt+f4 usually [05:34] Rictoo: Alt+F4 and Ctrl+Q === bob797 [n=bob@host-122-94-107-208.midco.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:35] ctrl+alt+esc [05:35] Alt+F4 technically closes the window, Ctrl+Q quits the app [05:35] so Alt+F4 doesn't always quit the app [05:35] ctrl+alt+esc runs xkill ? [05:35] ok, thanks jucato [05:35] intelikey: only on KDE :) [05:35] (unless you set it in GNOME) === hitmanWilly has a quicky icon for it [05:36] "What would be the alt+F4 equivalent in kubuntu?" << i assumed kde. [05:36] Ctrl+Alt+Esc runs xkill and commits GUI-cide === zhangkai [n=zhangkai@222.132.86.138] has joined #kubuntu [05:36] yeah :) [05:36] guiside ? [05:36] i like [05:37] ugh [05:37] im so confused [05:37] wouldn't that be ctrl-alt-bksp for the guicide [05:37] i cant understand these logs and they go on for pages [05:37] Halp! [05:37] My Grub Pretneds to boot [05:37] Pretends [05:37] Rictoo: Alt+F4 [05:37] Hello? [05:37] Eeeek [05:37] hitmanWilly: that would be X-cide :) [05:37] ... [05:37] hitmanWilly that would be xicide [05:37] lol [05:37] lol [05:37] whu r u [05:37] oh intelikey says it better though :P [05:37] ubuntu: ask your question in a full sentence [05:38] Rictoo: he just lagged [05:38] Admiral_Chicago: Will do [05:38] I booted up my box and it told me that there was no hard drive [05:38] lol [05:38] I pulled off all cables and reattached and the hard drive showed up [05:38] ubuntu, is the hdd ide? [05:38] oh [05:38] thats weird, did you check it out in a livecd, ubuntu [05:38] noow it get to Grub 1.5 and sits there [05:38] Hatsuyuki: Check my Nick :) [05:39] The Live cd wouldn't boot up either though :( [05:39] After going through a few CDs it worked === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [05:40] that may be a hardware problem... [05:40] Hi Hobbsee [05:40] hitmanWilly: Well that's why I'm asking for help [05:40] How do I diagnose a non booting non errored Grub? [05:41] is tehre such a thing as a repair instll [05:41] broken hdd maybe? [05:41] !boot [05:41] Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto [05:41] ubuntu: look at boot options, that might have some options [05:41] bedtime for BoBo.... thanks again to all who helped [05:41] guys === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@dialup-4.89.252.186.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:41] Admiral_Chicago: It doesn't get that far [05:41] really? [05:41] when will be KDE4 become stable? [05:41] hi ubuntu [05:41] is there sucha thing as a repairrrrrrrrr instal? [05:41] I can't wait [05:42] this is not live. this is memorex [05:42] linuxnobb: about octotober [05:42] linuxnobb: When it's done [05:42] that question has already been answred, linuxnobb [05:42] Jack3_: It's called a Live CD [05:42] linuxnobb: you will have to wait [05:42] linuxnobb: and you will have to [05:42] ubuntu, that's not an answer [05:42] how do i repair from the livecd === ubuntu eyes Jucato === Philip5 [n=Philip@c83-253-39-49.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [05:42] Mind reader [05:42] that sux [05:42] linuxnobb thats like asking when will ubuntu 8.0X be released or whens the next winblows going to be released [05:42] linuxnobb: Novemeber [05:42] linuxnobb: target date is October 23, 2007. that's just tentative [05:43] lol@winblows [05:43] linuxnobb: are we there yet? :) [05:43] my grub hurts [05:43] linuxnobb: but still means you will have to wait === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [05:43] helo? [05:43] Admiral_Chicago: Yeah You know you have teh Grub Loading then grub 1.5 or Grub 2 loading then the grub menu? [05:43] Jack3_: helo [05:43] how can i perform a repair install? === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:43] night night [05:43] Jack3_: What do YOU call a repair install? [05:43] ubuntu: i'd suggest looking at something like SuperGrub and that might help [05:44] the only thing I know is I get payed on the 15th and 1st of every month... and winblows helps me get those checks =) === acrolisx [n=acrolisx@69.37.206.196] has joined #kubuntu [05:44] i dont know, something to revert settings to normal :\ [05:44] Admiral_Chicago: Is it mild mannered and will report to me? [05:44] i just want my ubuntu to work again, i didnt do anything to it [05:44] goat: great...but that belongs in #kubuntu-offtopic really [05:44] Jack3_: What's wrong now? [05:44] and it just dies on me::::( [05:44] everythign [05:44] kde wont start [05:44] everything else doesnt start [05:44] Jack3_: Is that all? [05:44] swap isnt working [05:44] ubuntu: that was to you, i don't have much experience with grub...sorrp [05:44] agreed admiral.. and with that I bid you all farewell [05:44] You can't get to a Command line [05:44] i can [05:45] ubuntu: nope sorry === iwonder|away is now known as iwonder|too [05:45] Jack3_: Swap fails? [05:45] May want to do a hard drive test [05:45] Admiral_Chicago me ? [05:45] Admiral_Chicago sorry i missed it. i'll scroll up [05:46] ive tried formatting the swap [05:46] ah super-grub [05:46] Jack3_: How much Physical RAM do you have? [05:46] screw it, ill just backup everything and reformat [05:46] 5122 [05:46] 512 [05:46] Ow [05:46] Hmm === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-595b2a57ec593ae6] has joined #kubuntu === yamal [n=yamal@Room641A.no-such-agency.net.ru] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [05:47] should still boot kde tho, even w/out swap [05:47] well i dunno [05:47] i just had the oddest problem [05:47] Jack3_: ok what else goes wrong? [05:47] i had 4 gb free [05:47] and then i installed wine from source and all [05:48] and i trid to install a program, and it said 0b was free? === admin__ [n=admin@213.139.48.131] has joined #kubuntu [05:48] so i checked konqueror, and it said 0b was free also, so i deleted 600mb of files === Rictoo` [n=rictoo@adsl-70-135-227-5.dsl.hrlntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:48] Why from source? [05:48] still 0b free [05:48] empty the trash [05:48] yes i emptied the trash [05:48] anyways, i reboot [05:48] Jack3_: Ducks it [05:48] Crap, no questions pelase, what's alt+F4 in linux, again? [05:48] You can get to a command line ? [05:48] Crap, no questions pelase, what's alt+F4 in linux, again? [05:48] and then when i tried to login the screen went black and then went back tothelogin screen [05:48] Rictoo`: Don't double post [05:49] ALT+F4 is for closing the window [05:49] I want the shortcut to close the app [05:49] Rictoo`: Ctrl+Q [05:49] Rictoo`: ctrl-q [05:49] What's the shortcut to close an app in linux? [05:49] then i found that in root/.local/.Trash/files/ i had 4gb === tmbg [i=tmbg@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x3DA923CF] has joined #kubuntu [05:49] ok [05:49] thanks [05:49] which WASNT there before [05:49] so i deleted that [05:49] so now when i start up the konsole will load , but still no kde [05:49] some apps venella Q will do [05:49] i cant figure out for the life of me how this happened [05:49] Rictoo`: quit === acrolisx [n=acrolisx@69.37.206.196] has joined #kubuntu [05:49] ive compiled wine from src before too [05:49] Jack3_: type startx [05:50] like all major operating systems [05:50] Jack3_: You can install wine from the packages [05:50] !wine [05:50] it is exit a window [05:50] wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information. === richard_ [n=richard@c-67-190-44-225.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:50] ubuntu, ive done, that, it starts yes [05:50] but not everyhting [05:50] like knetworkmanager doesnt work, etc, etc [05:50] its really broken, [05:50] What not everything? [05:50] okay i'm away now. /me waves goodnight to Jucato!! :) [05:50] look obviously we arent getting anywhere [05:50] this problem cant be fixed === flashgun [n=flashgun@201.79.20.92] has joined #kubuntu [05:50] im just gonna reinstall [05:50] Jack3_: have you tried reconfiguring kde? [05:50] night Admiral_Chicago!! === acrolisx [n=acrolisx@69.37.206.196] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:51] the problem is bigger than kde [05:51] Night! [05:51] bbl [05:51] ok [05:51] Jack3_: And learn ducks :) [05:51] ubuntu are you on a live cd ? [05:51] ducks? [05:51] ubuntu_: Yes are you? [05:51] no === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:52] whats ducks\ === acrolisx [n=acrolisx@69.37.206.196] has joined #kubuntu [05:52] Jack3_: du -cks . | sort -rn | head -11 [05:52] Shows you what's taking up your space [05:52] oh [05:52] you can alias all of that to the word ducks [05:52] just cd / then type ducks and you see where your space is gone :) === chrisb_ [n=chrisb@cm-84.208.147.027.chello.no] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] easy to hunt down === vince__ [n=vinces19@d221-70-71.commercial.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] So about grub [05:53] ls [05:54] i'm looking at a web page that says Please click on the following button to continue: but there is no button. [05:54] ubuntu yes about grub ? [05:55] Anyone know how to figure out what's causing it to stall? === Kr4t05 [n=andrew@dsl-206-251-14-231.dsl0.crls.pa.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:55] error message ? [05:55] No error message [05:55] give more details then [05:55] It goes past grub stage one to Grub 1.5 [05:55] Then says grub loading ... [05:55] but never reaches the grub menu === dbist [n=dbist@ool-4571ec6b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu === jza873 [n=jza873@c-69-139-66-32.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:56] corrupt stage file ? [05:56] Wouldn't that throw an error? [05:56] tried reinstalling it ? [05:56] nope [05:57] not if the file had a bad read and corrupted the ram. [05:57] o_0 === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [05:57] huh? [05:57] hay im having a little problem for some reason konqueror wont display web images and i cant figure out hwo to fix it === chrisb [n=chrisb@cm-84.208.147.027.chello.no] has joined #kubuntu === fyrmedic [n=brad@64.58.0.142] has joined #kubuntu [05:58] if any one can help with this it would be greatly appreicated [05:58] Checked to see if show images was on? [05:58] reading in a corrupt file into something as "simple minded" as grub can cause the base ram to have things that the tiny os can't handle. grub is not the full kernel you know. === bucky [n=dac@tx-76-6-86-52.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:58] yea autoload images is on [05:59] I'm outta ideas then [05:59] ubuntu_: Is there some test I can do on it? [06:00] ok thanks [06:00] ubuntu i'd just reinstall it and see if it clears it up. === bassgoon [i=Aaron@65.110.253.205] has joined #kubuntu === wsjunior [n=wsjunior@201-41-94-129.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #kubuntu [06:00] jza873: ask in #kde as well [06:00] ok [06:00] should it be able to detect my linksys wireless card "out of the box"? === chrisb [n=chrisb@cm-84.208.147.027.chello.no] has joined #kubuntu [06:00] i'll be right back as me [06:01] does any one know if it is possible to remove konqueror using apt-get remove then load it back on or would that just mess everything up === intelikey [n=ubuntu@dialup-4.89.252.186.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:01] bassgoon: assuming that your card is supoprted [06:01] ah better... [06:01] jza873: ... yes [06:01] jza873: remove konqueror then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [06:01] intelikey: than? === chrisb_ [n=chrisb@cm-84.208.147.027.chello.no] has joined #kubuntu [06:01] where can I find a list? [06:01] being so generic [06:02] !wifi [06:02] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [06:02] intelikey: heehee :) [06:02] ok ill try that thanks [06:02] intelikey: do I have to chroot the / ? [06:03] no jsut add the root dir. -r /mountpoint i think. === bryan [n=chatzill@c-24-16-139-57.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:03] guys are you sure Alternate CD is LiveCD? the ubuntu says its text based [06:03] ubuntu, so if its not on the list...I'm hosed? === cWolfe [n=fucter@c-68-81-90-85.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:03] it's gotta be text base === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [06:03] maybe man knows. === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu [06:04] linuxnobb: It's not the live cd [06:04] it's the alternate cd [06:04] bassgoon: Did you read the page i just sent you ? [06:04] Well [06:04] dsplayed === alejandro_ [n=alejandr@190.1.222.58] has joined #kubuntu [06:04] Didn't actually send it to you [06:05] ubuntu sudo grub-install --root-directory= [06:05] hi Mez [06:05] how do you make the darn clock 12 hour format [06:05] ubuntu, eer I didn't see my card listed [06:05] ubuntu, are you for real? Alternade CD kubuntu is text-based only??!! [06:05] bassgoon: ok they have a wifi Howto on the same page [06:05] follow the steps there [06:05] it will help you if your card isn't listed there [06:05] mo0osah right click it. and configure lang&whatever [06:06] ah, thanks ubuntu [06:06] linuxnobb: Yes that's kinda the point === clintc_laptop [n=clintc@adsl-220-131-50.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:06] intelikey, i'm there but cant find how to change the format [06:06] OMFG!!! [06:06] i gotta re-download again??!! === kane_ [n=kane@cpe-70-112-48-39.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:06] linuxnobb: What are you doing with it? [06:06] so LiveCD doesn't support LVM??!! [06:06] I need LVM [06:07] and LiveCD [06:07] mo0osah it's there someplace. i've done it. but don't have kde installed now so can't track it down for you [06:07] Oh yeah then use the laternate [06:07] together [06:07] it's much easier with that [06:07] but it's not LiveCD === xlinux_ [n=xlinux@ip72-199-230-169.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === bucky [n=dac@tx-76-6-86-52.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has left #kubuntu ["has] [06:07] that's retarded, what does it take to add LVM to liveCD? [06:07] mo0osah: try the Date Time format then -> Time and dates -> Date format [06:07] linuxnobb: space [06:08] intelikey: sudo grub-install --root-directory=grub /dev/hdb1 [06:08] that looks right [06:08] the phrase "live CD" is so decpetive. all self installing os's on cd are live cd's but somehow the term 'live CD' seems to only be used for those with autostarting gui [06:08] ubuntu no [06:09] where =grub is the folder I mounted to? [06:09] ubuntu did you mount the installed system on /grub ? [06:09] if so then yes. [06:09] not /grub ~/grub [06:09] ok. [06:09] then yes. [06:09] Here goes [06:09] are you sure /dev/hdb1 is correct ? [06:10] maybe scsi emulation. sdb1 ? [06:10] I have no /dev/sdanything [06:10] And it failed === Dragnslcr [n=scott@c-24-63-105-9.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:10] ok then it's not scsi emulation [06:10] Running "install --stage2=grub/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 (hd1,0) (hd1,0)1+20 p (hd1,0)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed [06:11] Error 6: Mismatched or corrupt version of stage1/stage2 === ses1959_ [n=scott@ip68-97-38-110.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:11] there you have it. it is a corrupt stage file. [06:11] My / is XFS [06:11] Wonder if that's an issue ... === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [06:12] grub and xfs hmmmm [06:12] intelikey: Sooo blow it away and recreate? [06:12] or add a small boot partition ? === ses1959_ [n=scott@ip68-97-38-110.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === netuser [n=netuser@219.93.61.225] has joined #kubuntu [06:12] Now? === mjp_ttc [n=mjp_ttc@189.141.158.118] has joined #kubuntu [06:13] two questions on thunderbird === ubuntu brumbles === fulat2k [n=fulat2k@84.117.94.219.brf01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #kubuntu [06:13] I'll do it when KDE4 ships === mjp_ttc is now known as mjponce [06:13] i would like to add my comments to the top of a reply not at the bottom [06:13] i'm not sure if it's corrupt because of some grub/xfs bug or just a bad file. wont hurt to rm the ~/grub/boot/grub/stage* files and see what happens. [06:14] i have a old thunderbird file that i would like to add to my new account but could not import it === ubuntu looks ta intelikey with a worried face [06:14] can't I just mv them? [06:14] sure :) [06:14] They get recreated on the fly ? [06:14] or rerun the install ? [06:14] yes [06:14] rerun [06:14] ok === Sayim [n=ikawe@viborgDHCP-63.216-16-82.iw.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:15] how do i purge the lyrics cache in amarok?' [06:15] right click ? [06:16] idk. i looked at amarok one time. === tucuna [n=tucuna@190.152.24.16] has joined #kubuntu [06:16] threw a warnign [06:16] no errors ? [06:16] think I'll save this on the hard drive [06:16] Installation finished. No error reported. [06:16] then it "should" work. === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [06:17] I'm saving the error messages on the drive so I can read them later [06:17] warning about the number of sectors and some bios issue that's normal [06:18] it was writen in the 80's and never moved out of the code :) === intelikey doesn't exagerate just a little. [06:18] So much for open source :-) === ubuntu holds his breath crosses his fingers and taps his nuts [06:18] Lets see if this works === jza873_ [n=jza873@c-69-139-66-32.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:19] nope didnt work [06:19] and on # kde no one wants to talk [06:19] jza873_ is it beryl ? [06:20] i have beryl but its not running it started happeneing after i installed this firewall but i removed it [06:20] im going to remove beryl now because that thing sucks [06:20] see if that helps === oem [n=oem@213.190.34.99] has joined #kubuntu === oem is now known as morfejas === [GuS] [n=gustavo@190.48.104.102] has joined #Kubuntu [06:21] #kde ? [06:21] nope it wasnt beryl === djbailey [n=djbailey@c-71-234-38-30.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:21] yea no one talks on that === rich__ [n=rich@hlfxns01bbg-142177235038.ns.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === nova [n=nova@ottawa-hs-209-217-119-91.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #kubuntu [06:22] jza873_ just a note. you can reset all user prefs. in kde by removing ~/.kde then logging in. [06:22] Hey everyone can anyone tell me where the sound directory is [06:22] im looking to reboot the service and just need the dir [06:22] would anyone message me on how to install beryl? im new to linux, beginner if you will. [06:22] :) [06:22] sudo apt-get install beryl [06:23] djbailey what sound directory ? [06:23] djbailey what are you looking for ? [06:23] dont i feel stupid. [06:24] Thaks jza874_ [06:24] yea === intelikey feels of rich__ .... sure do! [06:24] i just want like /etc/sound. whatever so i can restart it [06:24] haha [06:24] :) [06:24] its not that cool tho beryl is kind of cool for 3 mins then it just lame === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [06:24] heres one for your brains.. [06:24] what would stupid feel like? === DaSkreech [n=skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech] has joined #kubuntu [06:25] djbailey /etc/init.d/ ? [06:25] Whoot [06:25] djbailey: we don't have one like that. What do you really want to do? Unload and reload the modules? Restore the default mixer levels? Both? === DaSkreech sighs [06:25] once the install is done [06:25] ok this all happened when i installed " fiaif " [06:25] what do you do [06:25] just restart? [06:25] And once again * crashes as soon as kde loads [06:26] i had sound i lost power to my laptop and now my sound does not work [06:26] jza873_ try firestarter [06:26] djbailey: ok, so pastebin the output from ``asoundconf list && amixer'' [06:26] djbailey: then tell us the URL [06:27] yea i got firestarter now === cpk1 [n=cpk1@sjs-130-65-211-115.sjsu.edu] has joined #kubuntu [06:27] should i take that as a yes? after the install of beryl. just restart [06:27] ? [06:27] jza873_ running it might let you undo what ever mess you have made of iptables [06:27] I got it thanks for the Crimsum [06:27] i mean Crimsun [06:27] i removed fiaif but no good it still wont display images its not even like broken links just dont show up [06:28] i clicked somthing in the sound link and it worked. [06:28] ok so ill reinstall it and run it and see what happens [06:28] rich__ i've never messed with beryl [06:29] #kubuntu-es [06:29] but like.. im confused.. its installed now (i think) [06:29] now what? [06:29] haha === Mountainman [i=Mtnman@adsl-70-142-43-225.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:30] !beryl [06:30] Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects [06:30] hi crimsun [06:30] hi. [06:30] see is there any help there ^ [06:30] Hmm [06:30] nah didnt work is ther a way to reset the iptables === vbgunz_ [n=vbgunz@217-98.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:30] wonder if i should relaunch dbus === billy [n=billy@216.230.158.253] has joined #kubuntu [06:31] anyone know a decent cheap pcmcia wireless card that works easily with linux? all I need is connection, no wep or wpa [06:31] i even tried to load konqueror through ion3 and still no good === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [06:32] jza873_ yeah. iptables -F ??? not sure that you wont need to add an 'allow all' after flushing 'all' though... [06:33] better first to list [06:33] see what ya go [06:33] got [06:33] gotit [06:34] my english tobe [06:34] :) === intelikey goes to eat a dead cow, or something. [06:35] intelikey: remember to use small bites, else you'll choke === belial [n=belial@70-101-203-188.dsl1.kgm.az.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu === belial is now known as belial_ [06:35] nope i dont think its the iptables something bust be blocking it [06:36] must* === ebbu [n=ebbu@116-143.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === buz [n=buz@84-72-54-173.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === bassgoon [i=Aaron@65.110.253.205] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === Dave-Kubuntu [n=David@163-015.dsl.scrtc.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:40] any other ideas === mjponce [n=mjp_ttc@189.141.158.118] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === unix_infidel_ [n=blue@adsl-68-94-0-190.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:41] Heres a ATI Permissions problem i'm having, think you can help? -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21100/ [06:41] reset kde ? rm -r ~/.kde [06:42] i thought you show never remove the ~/.kde directory === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] if i did that wont it mess up all my apps === cpk1 [n=cpk1@sjs-130-65-211-115.sjsu.edu] has joined #kubuntu [06:44] reset them to defaults... [06:44] intelikey: You don't like mv do you ? [06:44] DaSkreech i find it deceptive. [06:44] Why? [06:45] ill try it [06:45] if you mv ~/.kde then while kde is running try to move it back it will ignore most of the stuff. so why not just rm it to start with. === rossco [n=ross@C-61-68-102-166.hay.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [06:46] ok i removed it [06:46] Hmm? [06:46] why would you do it IN kde? [06:46] jza873_ ctrl+alt+backspace and hope [06:46] yea i just thought about that just now === hivemind [n=kasdaye@S010600179a9f2971.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:46] i have liek 10 desktop managers so hopefully i didnt just mess everything up [06:46] brb [06:47] you didn't [06:48] Heres a ATI Permissions problem i'm having, think you can help? -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21100/ === jza873 [n=jza873@c-69-139-66-32.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:49] anyone has planetkde on RSS ? [06:49] it worked [06:49] :-) [06:49] now back to reconfigureing everything [06:49] thanks soo mcuh [06:49] np [06:49] much* [06:49] DaSkreech: me [06:50] Jucato: can You do a search for Conspiracy ? [06:50] who made ap ost last week about that ? [06:50] thomas zander [06:50] Dave-Kubuntu: so it doesn't work for a while then starts to work? [06:50] that's kind of odd === sergio_ [n=sergio@mail.m2north.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:51] No it starts automaticly but it's slow [06:51] thanks === juan [n=juan@189.172.115.82] has joined #kubuntu [06:53] kalorin`: it's not just that too all 3d things are slow and give errors === unix_infidel_ [n=blue@adsl-68-94-0-190.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:54] Dave-Kubuntu: hrms... [06:54] Dave-Kubuntu: join #kalorin === unix_infidel [n=blue@unaffiliated/unixinfidel/x-8383745] has joined #kubuntu === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-11-254.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:57] thanks everyone im going to bed back to teh salt mines at embarq [06:57] tomorrow [06:57] later and thanks again [06:57] :-) [06:57] Tomorrow === peanutb_ [n=paul@c-71-231-82-231.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === e1mer [n=elmer@tequilla.exist.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:59] Allright guys.. ive got a problem to fix [06:59] this ones been kicking my arse === Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-72.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu [07:02] Good to know [07:02] xlinux_: you'd have to sign a wavier before I'll offer up my own ass to get kicked by said problem === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [07:02] cause I'll want to be able to recover damages [07:02] :) [07:02] huh? === DaSkreech sighs atta Jucato :( [07:03] it seems that bash auto-complete is not enabled) in my konsole. Where do I need to enable this? === infokom2 [n=infokom2@124.81.9.26] has joined #kubuntu [07:03] red_: ~/.bashrc [07:03] DaSkreech: why o why? [07:04] freezing due to 9755 nvidia driver.. anyone have ideas? [07:04] ooops. i just installed grub on the windows partition not the linux partition... will that work ? [07:04] I was on vacation last week so I left Akregator on to get all the blogs and news goodness [07:04] So of course the machine was turned off a day after I left [07:04] aw.... === guest [n=guest@host16-201-static.25-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [07:05] And both planetkde and planetmozilla don't keep more than like a day of back blogs [07:05] crimsun: and what's the setting that I have to enable? === buz [n=buz@84-72-54-173.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === abern [n=abern@adsl-71-132-222-114.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:05] DaSkreech: oh... :( [07:05] ok i'll go test it and see if it works... [07:06] Hey! [07:06] anyone kompiled kamion? === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === loco [n=loco@ool-44c31660.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:07] red_: scroll to the bottom and read the comment. [07:09] what's a decent onscreen analog clock I can apt-get in a hurry? [07:09] decent meaning has a second hand [07:10] google just gives me tray clock packages [07:11] nvm, found one, sorta [07:11] Which is it ? [07:11] the clock in the kicker has an analog clock [07:11] there's a kde screensaver [07:12] ah that sort of clock? [07:12] yeah [07:12] there's also some superkaramba themes I think. not sure about the seconds hand though [07:12] this will work for me right now [07:12] stopwatch is broken [07:12] Ha ha :) === cyber [n=cyber@217.194.147.33] has joined #kubuntu === karl [n=karl@p548A11B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === mode/#kubuntu [+o Jucato] by ChanServ === mode/#kubuntu [-b *!*@12-214-61-158.client.mchsi.com] by Jucato === mode/#kubuntu [-o Jucato] by ChanServ [07:15] which log? I would assume the xorg log [07:15] the flashes would make me think xorg, but the fact that the system completely freezes makes me think system === animimotus [n=animimot@86.73.177.99] has joined #kubuntu === chi0_ [n=chi0@63-227-46-133.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === sorin [n=sorin@80.75.230.64] has joined #kubuntu === sorin is now known as sorindregan [07:23] anyone know anything about issues with video cards === cpk1 [n=cpk1@sjs-130-65-211-115.sjsu.edu] has joined #kubuntu === TheDebugger [n=unknown@modemcable128.61-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #Kubuntu === bentob0x [n=laurent@ip-213-49-72-196.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #kubuntu === NightBird [n=ma325@pool-71-127-70-2.aubnin.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === bryan is now known as belred === user__ [n=user@host-88-210-234-155.adsl.caucasus.net] has joined #kubuntu === loco is now known as locolbd === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === dsmith_ [n=dsmith@c-68-33-164-177.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === michael [n=michael@pool-71-115-206-112.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:28] anyone know how to turn rarok on at a certain time in the AM? [07:28] amarok [07:28] dsmith, get primitive on it, crontab ;) [07:29] never had to do one [07:29] lol [07:29] ok [07:29] it's cake [07:29] crontab -e [07:29] [07:29] so [07:29] 30 01 * * * bash TimeForBed.sh [07:29] for instance === weedar [n=weedar@062016233043.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #kubuntu [07:30] every day, of every month, every day of the week at 1:30am go to bed [07:30] :) [07:30] hmmm [07:30] welp [07:30] my system is going to 7.04 now [07:30] this ought to be a ton of fun [07:31] heh [07:31] i am holding off [07:31] <--- clicked next [07:31] i just did a dual boot other day [07:31] irc.freenode.net [07:31] I was too but found out my grades for the quarter so I have a week to put the box back together if it doesn't go so well [07:31] resized my win part down to 1gb of free space [07:31] I need to redo my winXP vmware instance down from 50gb to something more reasonable === dsmith_ plays with crontab [07:32] autoexpand it or something === dsmith_ plays with kate to create a crontab [07:33] sudo required? === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [07:34] shouldn't be [07:34] depends if you let users on your system use cron [07:34] hmmmm [07:34] kcron [07:34] whats this [07:34] not sure [07:34] ok to bed with me [07:34] cyas [07:35] system wants me to close all applications so things don't blow up on the upgrade [07:35] heh === kalorin` imagines how this is goin to go with the ati drivers [07:35] BOOM [07:35] can't end well [07:35] breakage [07:35] ah well [07:35] heh [07:35] we'll see === insmod [n=insmod@d141-13-36.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu === kalorin` [n=kalorin@216.68.219.122] has joined #kubuntu [07:36] !ati [07:36] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [07:36] might as well get the directions now just in case === purpleposeidon [n=poseidon@adsl-76-195-8-53.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu === Rictoo [n=rictoo@adsl-70-135-227-5.dsl.hrlntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:42] This might sound odd, but I'm gonna leave my computer on all night, and I don't wanna waste cpu power [07:42] is there anything big and useful I can download? [07:42] (No, I don't want Folding@Home :P) === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [07:43] set a hibernate in the bios? [07:43] But i want my computer on [07:43] +p [07:43] with wake on lan and mouse or something [07:43] it's on then [07:43] it's just not doing anything [07:43] but I wanna use cpu :D [07:43] sorry nothing I cna think of === ranxerox [n=gdematte@host114-219-static.187-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [07:43] :/ === dettoaltrimenti [n=dettoalt@ppp85-140-154-42.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #kubuntu [07:47] is there any way I can check what device my keyboard is in /dev/input? === esunder [n=esunder@c-76-20-14-212.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:48] i installed the php command line interpreter, what do i need to connect to a mysql database, when i try to i get "Call to undefined function mysql_connect()" [07:48] i am assuming i need another package but im not sure which one, anyone know? === Vuen [n=nick@bas9-ottawa23-1088839483.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [07:50] hey guys, when i burn a data dvd with k3b, it doesn't mount automatically. i have to mount it manually in a terminal. [07:50] anyone know what's wrong? [07:51] it also works perfectly fine in windows === noiesmo [n=noiesmo@unaffiliated/noiesmo] has joined #kubuntu [07:51] but even after restarting the computer, if i put in a data dvd i burned into the cdrom drive while kubuntu is running, nothing happens === Ichilegend [n=ichilege@pool-71-246-7-41.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === bassgoon [i=Aaron@65.110.253.205] has joined #kubuntu [07:55] I seem to recall knoppix having a wizard to set the desktop behavior to ms windows style, does kubuntu have that? === aziz [n=aziz@chello084112072063.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu === nceterval [i=nes@ppp-70-224-212-33.dsl.applwi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [07:57] I just upgraded to Feisty and am having trouble mounting an encrypted partition during the boot process. When I was using Edgy, this was accomplished with cryptsetup create name /dev/hffa7. Now it appears that there is no such device. How can I track down the appropriate device? [07:58] hello bassgoon, Fedoora had that wizard too, but it is not in Kubuntu, you have to set the settings else ways [07:58] ack... [07:59] Yeah, I actually got used to it since i Double click my title bar in a window to maximize/restore a window === rung [n=rung@238.234.210.62.te-dns.org] has joined #kubuntu === xlinux_ [n=xlinux@ip72-199-230-169.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === iam504 [n=ian@adsl-70-238-135-251.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu === crube_ [n=crube@hoas-fe2cdd00-190.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === Gabz [n=gabriel@dsl-202-173-185-172.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === Gabz [n=gabriel@dsl-202-173-185-172.nsw.westnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === tmbg [i=tmbg@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x3DA923CF] has joined #kubuntu === Neutrinux [n=Neutrinu@152.98.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu === sergio__ [n=sergio@mail.m2north.com] has joined #kubuntu === uczen10 [n=uczen10@nat.dzi.vectranet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === ranjan [n=ranjan@netblock-208-127-59-167.dslextreme.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:07] Hmm, if anyone's interested, I think hda got renamed to sda in the upgrade. [08:07] Odd === velle_ [n=velle@ip-26-137.bnaa.dk] has joined #kubuntu [08:08] Has anyone here used Jinzora? I just installed it as my second LAMP application. === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@ppp-70-225-139-228.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:10] looking for help with selecting between cowan a2 mp3 player and wolverine esp mp3 player, any inputs? === edward [n=edward@host86-151-34-253.range86-151.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === edward is now known as nostferka [08:11] ranjan, are you asking or offering? [08:11] asking [08:11] i have read about a lot and narrowed down to those 2, but still deciding [08:11] i need help === harmental [n=ricardo@AGrenoble-152-1-105-244.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [08:13] hmmm, I haven't used those before... let me give a quick google to see what they are... [08:14] thanks Ichilegend [08:14] appreciate the effort [08:15] wow, those are some niiiice players [08:16] so what do u think? [08:16] The cowan one is vey sexy looking... are they priced similar? [08:16] wolverine is more picey === gangien [n=gangien@c-24-16-39-9.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [08:17] but wolverine also has a model called MVP which is available in only one color which is horrid that is equal in price to cowan === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-185-45.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #kubuntu === hagabaka [n=hagabaka@unaffiliated/hagabaka] has joined #kubuntu === SSJ_GZ [n=SSJ@host-87-74-128-26.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === mo0osah [n=mo0osah@ppp-70-247-197-128.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:19] hmmm, I like the cowan (based on my 3minute overview!) === ||arifaX [n=||arifaX@inetpop1.witron.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:20] It may have a smaller hard drive, but it looks like they thoght up the extras [08:20] is that based on looks or features? [08:21] well the looks are better, but I (personally mind you) would use the Divix Xvid features plus sub title file integration [08:21] The size seems more compact [08:21] etc. === dettoaltrimenti_ [n=dettoalt@ppp85-141-230-67.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #kubuntu [08:22] The Wolverine looks more universal, it has a ton of memory card inputs and you can get it up to 160GB === stephan [n=stephan@p5B0A7510.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:22] exactly my thoughts, but i am tempted by the hdisk size and loose any external storage device === stephan is now known as oti_ [08:22] actually both would be a liitle more than I would use, they both put my iPod to shame [08:23] a 130 GB external usn hdd would compensate wolverines cost [08:23] Hi, I've downloaded the source of kdeutils using "apt-get source kdeutils" and applied a few patches to it, now how can I make it a .deb package? [08:23] + 30 GB for music would be great [08:24] but if you are a movie buff or have a s&*t ton of mp3's the Wolverine would be the obvious choice. Just read your 130 gb comment ...bery tru [08:24] very true === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [08:25] thanks Ichilegend === hjacob [n=hjacob@0x3e42be57.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu [08:25] i am still undecided [08:25] lol === cpk1 [n=cpk1@sjs-130-65-211-115.sjsu.edu] has joined #kubuntu [08:25] How would I downgrade a package using fx aptitude? [08:25] both have great reviews on amazon! so i know both will be good players [08:25] They are both pretty cool looking. Either would be good to have. I am cheap though and the cheaper one looks cooler ;) my 3 minute-no-money-exchanged-vote would go to cowan. [08:25] any idea if ubuntustudio theme/icons can be used in kubuntu? [08:26] fulat2k: yes just add their repository [08:26] update [08:26] and download the artwork meta package [08:26] oops only in ubunru not in kubuntu [08:27] ranjan: that's what i'm afraid of :( [08:27] oh well. [08:28] fulat2k: make one yourself... [08:28] time to readup..::P === gangien__ [n=gangien@c-24-16-39-9.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === verena [n=verena@212.79.172.180] has joined #kubuntu [08:29] fulat2k: not too hard... just downlaod some existing themes from kde-look and see how its done === stephan [n=stephan@p5B0A7510.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:30] All of the files are svg ones right? You could make your own theme if it can't be found elsewhere rithgt? === unix_infidel [n=blue@unaffiliated/unixinfidel/x-8383745] has joined #kubuntu === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === sergio_ [n=sergio@mail.m2north.com] has joined #kubuntu === stephan_ [n=stephan@p5B0A7510.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === stephan__ [n=stephan@p5B0A7510.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === stephan__ is now known as schtiev === stephan_ is now known as resl === stephan is now known as schuest [08:33] Porn.com Domain Sold for $9 Million! === roconnor [n=roconnor@vhe-540354.sshn.net] has joined #kubuntu === stephan [n=stephan@p5B0A7510.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:33] ranjan: nice [08:33] lol and on the day Jerry faldwell died? sad === stephan is now known as raid-rush === gangien_ [n=gangien@c-24-16-39-9.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === stephan [n=stephan@p5B0A7510.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === schuest [n=stephan@p5B0A7510.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === stephan is now known as lancore89 [08:35] lol === mardi [n=bananamu@202.172.113.180] has joined #kubuntu [08:35] Ichilegend: cowan also has a model called D2, with touch screen control, no buttons for controls, is that a good option? [08:36] So I just set up Jinzora today on LAMP and it is awesome. A couple small probs, but basically it is like having your own shoutcast network. === thierry [n=thierry@lns-bzn-24-82-64-169-115.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === cabinBoy [n=leon@202-74-209-144.ue.woosh.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu [08:36] @ranjan, Touchsreen can be good === mardi [n=bananamu@202.172.113.180] has left #kubuntu ["pew!] === roller [n=roller@194.67.211.134] has joined #kubuntu [08:37] I dunno, I just got a Garmin GPS system for my car that is completely touch screen and it is awesome, i guees it depends on the interface === user10 [n=user10@82.112.166.252] has joined #kubuntu === user4 [n=user4@82.112.166.252] has joined #kubuntu [08:38] i agree, if done well it can be great === iam504 is now known as eean [08:38] can be equally bad if not well thought out === gabriel__ [n=gabriel@dsl-202-173-185-172.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [08:38] Ipod = 1 button and a wheel for every function. If touch is the only interface and it is done right... perfect! === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu [08:39] Ichilegend: my wife has a 30 gb video ipod [08:39] any simple way to minimize firefox and thunderbird to tray? [08:39] the only thing i hate about it is DRM [08:40] mo0osah: by pressing the minimize button [08:40] to tray??? [08:40] to tray? [08:40] @mo0osah, adding the Desktop Access applet to the task bar [08:40] oh === _gangien_ [n=gangien@c-24-16-39-9.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:41] Right click the panel (taskbar) add applet and add show desktop [08:41] hello [08:42] click the show desktop icon to minimize all === TuTuFF [n=TuTuFF@unaffiliated/tutuff] has left #Kubuntu [] [08:42] Hello [08:42] can you help me- music playing but i cant hear it [08:42] ok [08:42] Can you give more info? [08:43] aaa comp couldt configure sound card [08:43] whats the sound card? === akrus [n=akrus@62.140.224.26] has joined #kubuntu === Zuse [n=torsten@149.201.200.12] has joined #kubuntu [08:43] how i cant see my sound card?? === Zuse [n=torsten@149.201.200.12] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:44] roller: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page. === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === dr0fnax [n=dr0fnax@80-240-215-136.dnat.migtel.ru] has joined #kubuntu [08:47] cat /proc/asound/cards <= This command may suggest the card, but not if it goes unidentified === dhakatel [n=ashik@58.65.224.5] has joined #kubuntu === richard_ [n=richard@125-238-1-118.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === AmyRose [n=djb@unaffiliated/amyrose] has joined #kubuntu [08:49] 0 [SB ] : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB [08:49] hi i just install kubuntu i want to install berly desktop [08:49] HDA ATI SB at 0xd0400000 irq 19 [08:49] or and xgl [08:49] this is sound card [08:49] !beryl | dhakatel [08:49] what can i do now [08:49] dhakatel: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects [08:49] how do I install ati drivers ? [08:49] !ati [08:49] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto === xlinux_ [n=xlinux@ip72-199-230-169.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:50] wow, bots are cool === gangien__ [n=gangien@c-24-16-39-9.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [08:51] dhakatel you have what you need or you need human help? [08:51] I cant install my ati drivers [08:51] the instructions are for ubuntu :( === radioaktivstorm [n=charles@BURTON-TWO-EIGHTY.MIT.EDU] has joined #kubuntu === sercik [n=sercik@host199-160-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [08:52] richard the Kubuntu installation would be the same for the most part [08:52] holy crap.. anyone know anything about Nvidia drivers? I just learned some stuff I didnt know [08:52] hello, i have a question: why do some windows insist on becoming several hundred pixels too large? and is there a way to fix this? [08:53] explain .... um ... all of you! [08:53] hi all, I seem to need to recompile mpd for AAC/M4A support, can someone help me with this? [08:53] anyone even interested? === stefan__ [n=stefan@port-212-202-253-170.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:53] what is the problem? === pag [n=pavel@cs78224067.pp.htv.fi] has joined #kubuntu [08:54] is there any pango enable firefox binary for kubuntu [08:54] ? [08:55] i dont really have a problem.. I just learned something that *may* have been my problem === gangien_ [n=gangien@c-24-16-39-9.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === nauczyciel [n=nauczyci@87.116.226.145.strzyzow226.tnp.pl] has joined #kubuntu [08:55] do share [08:56] I constantly checked on the Nvidia website for a driver higher than 9755, thinking that Nvidia would change the driver version every time they released an update [08:56] but they OONT [08:56] dhakatel, i dunno, It was standard in Fedora, but i haven't been paying attention to the kubuntu releases [08:56] DONT* === phnom [n=simon@kr-lun-103-146-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:56] They had the release date on the website listed as may 7 2007 [08:57] BUT, the original driver I downloaded that was 9755, I downloaded in early march [08:57] I never realized they released drivers of the same version multiple times with multiple revisions === orange1 [n=Orange1@pool-71-246-98-115.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === irvken [n=sean@82-46-25-42.cable.ubr01.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [08:58] xlinux are you getting your nvidia drivers from a repository through regular upgrades or comkpiling it yourself with each new kernel? === e1mer [n=elmer@tequilla.exist.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:59] compiling it myself.. the repos never worked for me === user___ [n=user@host-88-210-202-117.adsl.caucasus.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:59] As soon as I d/led the latest release of v. 9755 nvidia driver, my FPS went from 4900 to 5500!!!! === chrisb_ [n=chrisb@cm-84.208.147.027.chello.no] has joined #kubuntu [09:00] Hopefully, this also fixed my flashing freezing problem... [09:00] interesting, I guess the linux source stays the same version. Since they try to unify their drivers, perhaps the updates are mostly for Windows? [09:00] *hopefully* [09:01] im guessing.. [09:01] weird. Nice to know though [09:01] whats weird is in there archives, they have a driver version 9762 that was released may 2nd, but the 9755 latest release is may 7th!!! === xardias [n=xardias@xdsl-87-78-126-223.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu === JohanSalim [i=G3b0ys@ip84-222.cbn.net.id] has joined #kubuntu [09:02] Rollback i guess. they must have f'd something upp === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [09:02] Haha, this whole time, I thought they simply hadnt released a new driver.. and they did, just under the same version with a different date [09:03] yeah, thats what I was thinking [09:03] they just used the 9755 and incorporated the features from the 9762 === molotova [n=molotova@uni14-1-82-233-221-95.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-134-54.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu === molotova is now known as Karsen [09:04] Release, get feedback..react is the entire quick to market coding mantra these days. === desti [n=desti@p5b01b655.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:05] If this actially fixes my flashing/freezing, which I really doubt it would be so easy, than I will be VERY happy with kubuntu. I was actually ready to try Sabayon because of this freezing crap [09:05] whats up with your Ati card? [09:06] atually I had Kubuntu issues too, my ultimate answer was to install ubuntu then apt-get kubuntu-desktop when all was working. === Edulix [n=edulix@252.Red-88-15-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:07] why i cant tallk with you but i cant go to web adress [09:08] browser said Could not connect to host ya.ru. [09:08] the funny thing is, Kubuntu flashed and froze FAR LESS than Ubuntu === schtiev is now known as Die === jordan [n=jordan@c-67-168-116-80.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Die is now known as schtiev === colines [n=colines@221.Red-83-32-220.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:10] I find it odd my FPS drops 2k when I use Beryl, but maybe thats just what beryl uses to run? === studente [n=studente@80.94.124.3] has joined #kubuntu [09:11] I like the Ubuntu stability, but I prefer KDE, the way to go for my mone is Ubuntu+kubuntu-desktop [09:12] Plus beryl is cool for a month or so, but the only real feature i still use is the cube. Big productivity enhancer === elcuco [n=elcuco@62.90.10.53] has joined #kubuntu === lancore89 is now known as yoda === roller [n=roller@194.67.211.134] has joined #kubuntu === chdiqa [n=chdiqa@202.78.123.131] has joined #kubuntu === yoda is now known as lancore89 === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === steffen [n=steffen@ti531210a080-5557.bb.online.no] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Ikawe [n=ikawe@ViborgSTATIC-222.216-16-83.iw.net] has joined #kubuntu === chdiqa [n=chdiqa@202.78.123.131] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@189.157.133.102] has joined #kubuntu === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu is now known as izaki === AaronCN [n=aaron@219.134.177.214] has joined #kubuntu === izaki [n=ubuntu@189.157.133.102] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Agrajag` [i=Agrajag@c-67-186-9-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #Kubuntu [09:18] can someony help me recompile mpd for m4a support? === elcuco [n=elcuco@62.90.10.53] has joined #kubuntu === ` [n=tang@60.191.45.226] has left #kubuntu [] === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === kobby [n=kobby@dhcp3248.4u.com.gh] has joined #kubuntu [09:23] Ichilegend: I like ubuntu too, but my 11 kubuntu machines haven't had a single problem and all are stable :) === kompressor [n=neville@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu === Trevi [n=Trevi@adsl-ull-18-184.41-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu === gangien__ [n=gangien@c-24-16-39-9.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === cyber [n=cyber@217.194.147.33] has joined #kubuntu === mneisen [n=mneisen@pD9E52EBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === ljubomir [n=ljubomir@185-90-252-195.adsl.beotel.net] has joined #kubuntu === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === user11 [n=user11@213.157.214.71] has joined #kubuntu === gary_ [n=gary@user-5443153e.lns4-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === dhq [n=dhq@adsl7-68.qualitynet.net] has joined #kubuntu === chdiqa [n=chdiqa@202.78.123.131] has joined #kubuntu === HymnToLife [n=fkraiem@LNeuilly-152-23-88-99.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [09:33] took a smoke break === nordseebaer [n=nordseeb@e176027015.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu === chdiqa [n=chdiqa@202.78.123.131] has joined #kubuntu [09:34] yeah, I agree with you about beryl.. I only use the cube and the magic lamp minimize- this helps me sort out where im minimizing to [09:34] hi [09:34] i multitask like a mother [09:34] nordseebaer- hey === xxx_ [n=xxx@87.120.51.35] has joined #kubuntu [09:34] any german here who can help me? [09:35] i cant help you there... [09:35] <_4strO> de | nordseebaer or try in english ;) [09:35] <_4strO> !de | nordseebaer or try in english ;) [09:35] nordseebaer or try in english ;): Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de [09:35] ok ty :) if i dont find anyone i'll come back and try in english ;) === _gangien_ [n=gangien@c-24-16-39-9.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:35] <_4strO> ^^ === defcon [n=defcon@VDSL-130-13-152-133.PHNX.QWEST.NET] has joined #kubuntu === elcuco [n=elcuco@62.90.10.53] has joined #kubuntu === doblezero [n=miguel@72.Red-217-125-3.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === defcon [n=defcon@VDSL-130-13-152-133.PHNX.QWEST.NET] has joined #kubuntu [09:40] <_4strO> yop yop === defcon [n=defcon@VDSL-130-13-152-133.PHNX.QWEST.NET] has joined #kubuntu === sharon [n=sharon@212.203.31.1] has joined #kubuntu === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === sharon is now known as annee === kasparov [n=kasparov@213.253.113.126] has joined #kubuntu === defcon [n=defcon@VDSL-130-13-152-133.PHNX.QWEST.NET] has joined #kubuntu === stanislas [n=stanisla@LSt-Amand-152-31-32-236.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === weiminji [n=weiminji@121.32.213.97] has joined #kubuntu === aziz [n=aziz@chello084112072063.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu === gangien_ [n=gangien@c-24-16-39-9.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === defcon_ [n=defcon@VDSL-130-13-152-133.PHNX.QWEST.NET] has joined #kubuntu === CVirus [n=GoD@196.205.192.246] has joined #Kubuntu === cukino [n=cukino@77.46.244.196] has joined #kubuntu === esi_ [n=esi@222.Red-80-34-96.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === Ikawe [n=ikawe@ViborgSTATIC-222.216-16-83.iw.net] has joined #kubuntu === chdiqa [n=chdiqa@202.78.123.131] has joined #kubuntu === edward_ [n=edward@host81-154-240-145.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@d54C30F45.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu === thomax [n=thomas@217-148-245-234.happymany.net] has joined #kubuntu === emonkey-p [n=emonkey@adsl-84-227-43-64.adslplus.ch] has joined #kubuntu === chdiqa [n=chdiqa@202.78.123.131] has joined #kubuntu === gangien__ [n=gangien@c-24-16-39-9.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === BudgetDedicated [n=BudgetDe@s5593c2e9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === raul [n=mctux02@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === wlink [n=wlink@p5084F5D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === edward__ [n=edward@host81-154-240-145.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === weiminji [n=weiminji@121.32.213.97] has joined #kubuntu === jan__ [n=jan@h8441189005.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #kubuntu [10:07] Good morning. Can I ask for some help with K3b? [10:07] Is it possible to rip audio CD's to MP3 format? [10:08] !cdrip | jan__ [10:08] Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [10:08] er sorry === richard_ [n=richard@125-238-1-118.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [10:08] !ripping | jan__ [10:08] jan__: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh [10:08] you don't even need to use k3b, but yes you can [10:08] just install LAME [10:09] I know there are other tools. I am writing a book for newbies at the moment. I installed Lame and the libk3b2.mp3 dependencies [10:09] Yet, it only shows Ogg and WAV as options. [10:10] libk3b2-mp3 is only used for burning MP3's to Audio CD's === dergringo [n=dergring@195.176.0.50] has joined #kubuntu === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [10:10] So it doesn't support the other way around. === gangien_ [n=gangien@c-24-16-39-9.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:11] hm. it should, if you have lame installed. or maybe liblame? not really sure. Haven't tried it myself === trpr_ [n=ftg2@24-116-68-3.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:13] <_4strO> Jucato: i do not agree with you, libk3b2-mp3 is even use to RIP CD's tu mp3 [10:13] <_4strO> to* === jakkass [n=gareth@192.122.218.173] has joined #kubuntu [10:13] !info libk3b2-mp3 [10:13] libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB === octoberdan [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/octoberdan] has joined #kubuntu === mister_roboto [n=jrk@24-136-22-252.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:14] _4strO: that leaves the question: why doesn't the MP3 option show in K3b when I try to rip a cd? [10:14] !info lame [10:14] lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB === sercik [n=sercik@host199-160-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [10:15] <_4strO> jan__: i will verify on my laptop [10:15] Sound Juicer works fine. Acidrip as well (for video that is) [10:15] _4strO: thanks === jordo23 [n=jordo23@CPE-70-94-41-77.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:15] how about kaudiocreator? [10:16] Jucato: haven't tried that one yet. One moment. [10:16] and the audiocd:/ kioslave? hm.. how about installing "liblame0"? not really sure === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [10:17] <_4strO> ha yes, i cant encode in mp3 with k3b === ^RiaN^ [n=rico@203.176.179.42] has joined #kubuntu === defcon [n=defcon@VDSL-130-13-152-133.PHNX.QWEST.NET] has joined #kubuntu [10:17] <_4strO> thought so ... [10:17] k3b rocks! [10:17] <_4strO> sure [10:17] Jucato: liblame0 is installed === ^RiaN^ is now known as Romeo_10 [10:17] hm... [10:18] Jucato: kaudiocreator has MP3 as an option [10:18] have you tried restarting k3b? === kristjan_ [n=kristjan@ubr2-217-33.narva.stv.ee] has joined #kubuntu [10:19] Jucato: yep, a few times already [10:19] does audiocd:/ also have an MP3 folder? [10:20] Jucato: yes, it does [10:20] it's not empty? [10:20] if so, it might be a K3b problem... [10:20] I see files, so you might be right then [10:21] Blast, there goes a chapter in the book === hw_ [n=hw@87.139.57.5] has joined #kubuntu === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === BudgetDedicated [n=BudgetDe@s5593c2e9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu === xardias [n=xardias@xdsl-87-78-135-236.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:23] It is to risky to describe this option for newbies if it doesn't work out of the box. Too bad, but thanks for helping out. [10:23] I will add the audiocd:/ option to the chapter instead. === Romeo_10_ [n=rico@203.176.179.42] has joined #kubuntu === Romeo_10 [n=rico@203.176.179.42] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:24] or kaudiocreator, if you want a specialized app for it === ninHer [n=ninHer@54.Red-83-42-149.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === gangien__ [n=gangien@c-24-16-39-9.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:26] Jucato: that one too, as an alternative to Sound Juicer === dhakatel [n=ashik@58.65.224.5] has left #kubuntu [] === chdiqa [n=chdiqa@202.78.123.131] has joined #kubuntu [10:26] Okay, back to writing it is. See you all and thank you === ljubomir [n=ljubomir@185-90-252-195.adsl.beotel.net] has joined #kubuntu === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === _fitz_ [n=fitz@host130-84.pool82105.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === zhangkai [n=zhangkai@222.132.86.138] has joined #kubuntu === cyber_brain_mfkg [n=cyber_br@212.200.171.99] has joined #kubuntu === weiminji [n=weiminji@121.32.213.97] has joined #kubuntu === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === user___ [n=user@213.157.214.57] has joined #kubuntu === knubbe [n=knubbe@h219n6c1o1036.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu === bahr [n=bahr@homer.cs.aau.dk] has joined #kubuntu === duncan_ [n=duncan@goldtel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@WL-POOL02-41.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === mazzoni [n=mazzoni@host138-156.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === binks_work [n=binks@host217-36-108-26.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #kubuntu === doblezero [n=miguel@72.Red-217-125-3.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu [] === jordo23 [n=jordo23@CPE-70-94-41-77.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:45] Why whenever I use ark to extract a .tar.gz file I get an error that says the extraction operation failed.... [10:45] ark sometimes strange errors ... [10:45] *has [10:45] did you try it by using console? [10:46] TheInfinity: no....will try......which options would ark emulate? [10:47] by default... === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === arafat [n=arafat@ppp-82-135-76-53.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:47] hmm ... something like tar -xf yourarchivename.tar [10:47] thats unextracting ... perhaps there you will get a better descr ... === Ayabara [n=Ayabara@194.196.35.3] has joined #kubuntu [10:48] TheInfinity: Would the fact it's final extension is .gz matter? [10:49] Hello, I'm having trouble with png support. Earlier today someone told me to reinstall qt... I'm hoping for a better answer === zenekk [n=krzysiek@aapd131.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === khnz [n=khnz@i577B6A3E.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:49] Its not showing pngs in konqueror, and nothing seems to display them correctly, such as gwenview... krita doesn't know how to use them, but... === countjocular [n=johnnie@host81-159-1-50.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:50] konqueror will show them if they are part of a webpage. Also, firefox will show them without any trouble === ljubomir [n=ljubomir@185-90-252-195.adsl.beotel.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:51] then its a tar.gz ... so ypou have to use tar -cvzf file.tar.gz [10:52] args sorry wrong [10:52] tar xvzf file.tar.gz is should be [10:54] TheInfinity: Is there a better GUI archive program? === maass [n=maass@88.213.54.124] has joined #kubuntu === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [10:54] jordo23: good question ... i never found one ... sometimes i miss winrar unde rlinux [10:55] TheInfinity: lol === jordo23 [n=jordo23@CPE-70-94-41-77.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:55] i like rar because its extreme efficent ;) === Eyeless [n=hjalle@d83-183-204-137.cust.tele2.se] has joined #kubuntu === ddaedalus [n=bartek@sub87-230-126-200.he-dsl.de] has joined #kubuntu === Fusselwurm|w0rk [n=msc@212.68.92.30] has joined #kubuntu === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu [10:59] TheInfinity: You can get rar and unrar for linux? [10:59] yes but not rar with such a lot options ;) [11:00] TheInfinity: What options are you looking for? === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [11:00] for example the reconstruction of damaged archives is with rar really good [11:01] TheInfinity: Have you seen the man page for rar? There are options for reconstruction [11:02] or - on the other hand - compression rate ... also really nice :) === DeMolay [n=migui@87.235.1.81] has joined #kubuntu [11:04] TheInfinity: Ok I don't know about compression rate, but I know there are many options with rar which you can configure === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:06] moin === sercik [n=sercik@host199-160-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === weiminji [n=weiminji@121.32.213.97] has joined #kubuntu === Philip5 [n=Philip@c83-253-39-49.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [11:11] Heeey === david2 [n=david2@cpe-24-162-105-224.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === paco_ [n=francois@LSt-Amand-152-31-5-221.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [11:13] What's the nest way to make a full backup an exact mirror of a linux install? === kaoskinkae [n=kaoskink@72.Red-81-38-69.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-d1f97797b2bbe8ee] has joined #kubuntu === see-g [n=see-g@86.42.144.184] has joined #kubuntu === maxx_k [n=max@hs080046.vpn.rz.htwg-konstanz.de] has joined #kubuntu === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [11:16] david2: I use acronis, but that's not open-source but it works very well for my needs === roconnor [n=roconnor@n138176.science.ru.nl] has joined #kubuntu [11:17] I saw something about rsync [11:17] but I always f up using that === juho [n=juho@heikkila.pc.infrahip.net] has joined #kubuntu === muarainfo [n=muarainf@125.161.84.8] has joined #kubuntu === clemyeats [n=clem@sealip01.ericsson.net] has joined #kubuntu === admin__ [n=admin@85-18-66-30.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #kubuntu === user___ [n=user@89.232.4.212] has joined #kubuntu === steffen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === _roconnor [n=roconnor@n138183.science.ru.nl] has joined #kubuntu === stud [n=stud@core.intellcom.cv.ua] has joined #kubuntu === morelli [n=morelli@194.116.6.202] has joined #kubuntu === ion [n=defcon@VDSL-130-13-152-133.PHNX.QWEST.NET] has joined #kubuntu [11:23] david2: well you need to update your grub.conf if you want the option to press F11 at boottime to restore === phpcode [n=Steffen@ti531210a080-1289.bb.online.no] has joined #kubuntu === hhlp [n=hhlp@79.Red-83-52-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === user___ [n=user@89.232.4.212] has joined #kubuntu === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === Simeon_H [n=notakewl@unaffiliated/simeonh/x-71890234] has joined #kubuntu [11:29] why did my CD's arrive so quickly? :/ === maass_ [n=maass@88.213.11.103] has joined #kubuntu [11:30] and you're complaining? O.o [11:31] Simeon_H: you can shelf it for a week or five if you wish [11:32] no I just wanna know why they only took like two weeks to get from the Isle of Man to australia and through customs and everything :/ [11:32] or more importantly, how [11:33] of course by the magic of Ubuntu :) === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [11:33] meh it says pass it on? === stalker_ [n=stalker@cable-89-216-171-97.dynamic.sbb.co.yu] has joined #kubuntu [11:34] is this like the shareware version of doom where if you don't distribute it to everyone some dude comes and hacks your arms off? === busfahrer [n=chris@unixboard/user/busfahrer] has joined #kubuntu [11:35] I got my CD's within two weeks too :) === bentob0x [n=laurent@ip-213-49-72-196.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #kubuntu === morelli [n=morelli@194.116.6.202] has joined #kubuntu === vegiVamp_ [n=johan@93.197-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu [11:37] If I want to get involved with Kubuntu programming slowly, what kidn of programming languages do I need to learn? And is it possible to start slowly and build up skills in programming and still help? I only have experiences with C and C# programming [11:37] i think c is enough [11:38] but kde is c++ btw [11:38] C++ is pretty easy to learn if you know C [11:38] even easier if you know C# I suppose [11:38] but C is not easy to do well. [11:39] true. [11:39] and don't start writting your own programs, start by examining existing ones, and impoving them [11:39] like making patchs, and so on === pand [n=pand@eik101.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [11:39] I'm not an advanced C programmer [11:39] but I would like to be :P [11:40] allright, where do I find the source code for these programs? [11:40] i'm not advanced too, and i wrote a bunch of gnome apps:/ [11:40] I wouldn't [11:40] don't worry about that [11:40] I'd like to be an electronics engineer [11:40] seeing as that's what I'm studying :/ [11:40] go to kde site, there you can find [11:40] bahr: that's why you should prepare for them to reject/modify your patches the first 15 times :) It's good for the skin too, thickens it :) [11:41] bue beware that kde is currently working on 4.0 version === maass__ [n=maass@88.213.45.176] has joined #kubuntu [11:41] so you come in some fog right now [11:41] Lynoure: well I have nothing against that, I know there are a bunch of people out there, who are lightyears in front of my programming skills :) I just want to help, and hopefully I get better with time and experience. === kalenedrael [i=2225-ide@c-24-60-144-8.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:42] bahr: sounds like you have what it takes then: motivation and willingness to learn [11:42] Ok, well I am looking for a starting point [11:42] how long do you use kde? [11:42] Lynoure: yeah that I definitely have :) [11:42] did you noticed any bug that is pissing you off? [11:43] if so, dive into the code:) [11:43] join mailing list [11:43] stalker_: Well not that long, I have used some different things during the time I used linux. Fluxbox, KDE, Gnome etc. but now I stick to KDE. It's the one I like the most === vepris [n=kaplis@83.136.142.8] has joined #kubuntu [11:43] hint: don't say on it: an i work on this bug:) [11:43] can* [11:43] stalker_: but I don't know anything about the "inner" workings of KDE though [11:44] you don't need, starts with some app in kde, not kde core [11:44] Hello [11:44] DOWN WITH TEH SOFTWARE PATENTS! [11:44] stalker_: ok :) === _roconnor is now known as roconnor === fabio [n=fabio@213-140-19-126.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:45] I wonder how can I translate KDE documentation into other languages e.g. into Polish === fabio is now known as dudek [11:45] anybody knows where I can find documents explain it? [11:45] translators.kde.org, i think, then find your countrymates first [11:45] I'm going to check it, thanks [11:46] don't be one man show, there's are many polish guys working on it === jakkass [n=gareth@78.16.52.117] has joined #kubuntu === Skrot- [n=magnus@118.80-203-114.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:46] best practice i saw is to ask what need s to be translated on polish lang mailing list [11:46] Hi. Any chance 2.6.21 will be backported to feisty? [11:46] <_4strO> http://l10n.kde.org/ [11:46] <_4strO> pand: http://l10n.kde.org/$ [11:47] so firstly I want to get knowledge how to make translate and then I'm going to join to the Polish team [11:47] <_4strO> oups without the $ [11:47] But If I install a c/C++ dev environment, am I then ready to start playing around with patches and things that annoy me? [11:47] ... .? === s330d3r [n=s330d3r@209-161-223-98.dsl.look.ca] has joined #kubuntu [11:47] you need .po file and kbabel app - that's it;) [11:47] ok :) [11:47] Thanks once again : ) [11:47] if you can compile it, then you're ready === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [11:48] Well I better get started now then :P [11:49] take it slowly;) [11:49] just don't give up on first error:) === slon_ [n=slon@ws.20070228172306.clnt.kht.ru] has joined #kubuntu === daphbobo_ [n=nats@196.219.178.7] has joined #kubuntu [11:49] stalker_: hehe I keep that in mind :) [11:49] beggining to work on someone else code is far more harder then any programming [11:50] hint: take smaller apps:D [11:50] <_4strO> stalker_: depend of the original programmer ;) === user___ [n=user@89.232.4.212] has joined #kubuntu [11:50] yeah:) [11:50] stalker_: Yeah I have experience with that from my education :) [11:50] but, lloking to me, i would rather write my 10.000 lines of code then add 100 in existing:) [11:51] <_4strO> i'm trying to learn C but it's very hard :p === deichgraf [n=met@tmo-106-1.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #kubuntu === kaukx [n=kaukx@ip118-208.anet.lt] has joined #kubuntu [11:51] no it isn't [11:51] stalker_: sometimes working with your own OLD code with out comments, can be worse to lol [11:51] if you use printf and scanf to output :P [11:51] your code 6 months old is not your code anymore:D [11:51] <_4strO> ^^ thats the magical thing :) === s330d3r_ [n=s330d3r@209-161-223-98.dsl.look.ca] has joined #kubuntu [11:52] printf is a joke, right? [11:53] .... [11:53] no I use it [11:53] dont' use printf if possible, good old debbuger is only thing you need [11:53] even gdb from console is better then inserting random printf [11:53] meh It's all I need to know at this bound [11:53] *point [11:53] <_4strO> a="is"; printf("think it %s",a); [11:54] ... and the magical !offtopic flag will soon be raised... [11:54] next up is microcontroller asm :S [11:54] lol === mikelima [n=mikelima@213-156-52-117.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:54] hi all. [11:54] <_4strO> hi [11:55] is ktorrent mature enough? (azureus mature?) === hs_ [n=hs@fwbox.uevora.pt] has joined #kubuntu [11:55] I am a bit puzzled. I'm trying to install wine on a kubuntu feisty (AMD_64) installation. [11:55] Isn't wine supported on 64bit? [11:55] because I can't find the package... === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [11:56] mikelima: I'm afraid not. [11:56] only winelib. === n0ts [n=chatzill@u041079.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #kubuntu [11:56] Oh. Ok. [11:56] Hi, [11:56] mikelima: better ask in #winehq to be sure === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu === n0ts [n=chatzill@u041079.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has left #kubuntu [] [11:57] stalker_: I guess that depends on the azureus features that you are looking for. for basic torrent needs, ktorrent is good enough, without the overhead of java [11:57] Well, thank you. [11:57] last time i used it (6 months ago) and wanted to only seed existing torrent, it added 700mb to tracker (as i downloaded it:o) === unix_infidel [n=blue@unaffiliated/unixinfidel/x-8383745] has joined #kubuntu === daphbobo_ is now known as daphbobo === deichgraf [n=met@tmo-106-1.customers.d1-online.com] has left #kubuntu [] [12:00] stalker_: lot of versions released since that time [12:01] yeah, i guess it's ok now [12:01] it works ok, and jvm is'nt more in memory:) === steffen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === strog_ [n=strog@p54971CDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:06] hi [12:06] i have a porblem with using the apt-get install in the console [12:07] i always get an error message that it couldnt find the package [12:07] famous ones like kdevelop or vlc mediaplayer === MistaED [n=mistaed@87.212.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === os2mac [n=jim@209.193.53.178] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@host72-254-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [12:09] anybody there?\ [12:10] Can anybody help me with debugging/testing cronjobs? [12:10] better ask on #ubuntu === eMaX [n=emax@229-115.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu === strog_ [n=strog@p54971CDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === Tmi [n=tommi@kr-lun-9-144-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #kubuntu === developer [n=develope@109.71-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu === flake [n=rmcdanie@6532142hfc81.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:14] you cant' debug it [12:14] i have a problem with the apt-get install command, when i want to install vlc mediaplayer i get the error message that the package isnt there [12:15] but you can `touch` some file, and see later if it's vreated === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [12:15] strog_: try on #ubuntu or some debian, obviously noone knows === elbing [n=elbing@65.pool85-59-75.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #kubuntu [12:17] strog_: check if you have the correct repositories enabled. have you tried installing using Adept? === m1 [n=m1@pc216198.is.airbites.ro] has joined #kubuntu === Ryiel_ [n=ryiel@183-20-46.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@ip-subnet-34.hlucin.net] has joined #kubuntu === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@Te137.t.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu is now known as martyone === sercik [n=sercik@host199-160-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu === kaoskinkae [n=kaoskink@72.Red-81-38-69.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:22] is xrandr unsupported on feisty? [12:23] trying to link against /usr/bin and finding some undefined references [12:23] What are you trying to compile? === gemidjy [n=gemidjy@62.162.67.50] has joined #kubuntu === ebbu [n=ebbu@116-143.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [12:23] an irrlict program [12:23] do linux have a program thats like deamon tools in windows? === fideas [n=fideas@122.8.49.33] has joined #kubuntu [12:24] trying to get it to restore the desktop after fullscreen === wetermvd [n=wetermvd@c529c3b77.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu [12:24] I think xrandr is supported [12:25] flake: You might want libxrandr-dev libxrandr2 and xlibs-dev installed though === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F36D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === octoberd1n [n=daniel@pool-151-204-239-144.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:25] hum.. xlibs-dev depends on libxrandr-dev so no need to install both === massi_ [n=massi@host73-108.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === tarelerulz [n=tareleru@64.72.50.90] has joined #kubuntu [12:27] It there any easy way to see if you have wep for or way to install it ? [12:27] For wireless connnections? [12:28] I already have the packages === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === sercik [n=sercik@host199-160-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu === octoberd1n is now known as ktarted === ktarted is now known as ktarded [12:30] tarelerulz: What are you trying to do? === si^ [n=michal@144-moo-6.acn.waw.pl] has joined #kubuntu === mat__ [n=mat@128.22.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:32] Well, I will network that are not free like library and stuff and I want to know what I will need to get onto them and I thought wep was something I need === ktarded is now known as octoberdan [12:34] On stuff like library I don't think you need something like wep ,but on not open network I would like to know what I need ? === imagine [n=imagine@modemcable150.200-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu === ion [n=ion@89.36.255.23] has joined #kubuntu === anneso [n=anneso@203.80.48.183] has joined #kubuntu === AdrenaliN198306 [n=daniel@C-59-100-145-75.ade.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:36] Ktarded , what do you think ? what do you need for stuff like coffie shop and other hot spotes === steffen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [12:36] Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me through downloading and install the orinoco wireless driver in kubuntu i386 === cpk1 [n=cpk1@sjs-130-65-211-115.sjsu.edu] has joined #kubuntu === scruffy_ [n=scruffy@c-76-110-146-142.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === faik [n=faik@213.172.73.201] has joined #kubuntu [12:38] hello [12:38] anyone installed Geforce 7600 on ubuntu ? === lori [n=lori@195.91.54.84] has joined #kubuntu === oem [n=oem@213.190.34.99] has joined #kubuntu === edward_ [n=edward@host81-159-174-129.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === oem is now known as morfejas === ubuntu__ [n=ubuntu@Tc0ce.t.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:39] sweiki yra lt?:) [12:39] does anyone speak russian ? [12:39] I not [12:39] :) [12:40] where are u from ? === hakaisoutwo [n=hakaisou@cpe-65-25-56-113.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:41] I have aunt that is Runssain . I learn the word for yes haha === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === gudfadern [n=gudfader@c83-253-94-102.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [12:44] so anyone know how to install Geforce 7600 driver on ubuntu ? === loxley_ [n=loxley@c83-249-225-138.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [12:44] ps aux [12:44] oops :) [12:44] lol [12:45] aux ) === hawazuzi [n=hawazuzi@125-229-110-76.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:46] anyone play world of warcraft ) ? === edward___ [n=edward@host81-154-240-8.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:47] Faik, So you have verion of warcraft tha works with wine === colines_ [n=colines@221.Red-83-32-220.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === valerio [n=valerio@host133-144-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu === P__ [n=pierre@lns-bzn-28-82-250-173-183.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === sinanimam [n=sinanima@85.97.108.3] has joined #kubuntu === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === sinanimam [n=sinanima@85.97.108.3] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === sinanimam [n=sinanima@85.97.108.3] has joined #kubuntu === kaukx [n=kaukx@ip118-208.anet.lt] has joined #kubuntu === Bel93 [n=mctux02@80.24.33.58] has joined #kubuntu === hawazuzi [n=hawazuzi@125-229-110-76.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:51] why is it, when playing wolf - et, the monitor goes dark and I have to calibrate the gamma to reset the brightness? [12:51] using feisty [12:52] it's kind of annoying, wondering if it has to do with a screensaver setting or power option or something === daphbobo_ [n=nats@196.219.178.69] has joined #kubuntu === hhlp [n=hhlp@79.Red-83-52-185.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === Bel93_ [n=mctux02@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === tmulvaney [n=tmulvane@c58-107-36-184.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === kaukx [n=kaukx@ip118-208.anet.lt] has joined #kubuntu [12:58] is kubuntu feisty faster than edgy due to qt4? === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44765.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:58] Hi people!! === jaaroo [n=jaro@x53.mykey.cz] has joined #kubuntu [12:59] feisty uses kde3.x, just as edgy... and kde3 depends imho on qt3 [12:59] i'm here to help! because i have solver all my problems with kubuntu (??) [12:59] is worth upgrading to? [01:00] it looks the same, whats under the hood === olmo [n=olmo@d54C3FA9F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [01:02] feisty is slower than edgy === bahr [n=bahr@homer.cs.aau.dk] has joined #kubuntu === lucifer_ [n=lucifer@77.66.148.173] has joined #kubuntu === ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:04] [01:04] ? === uczen10_ [n=uczen10@nat.dzi.vectranet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === alejandro [n=asanchez@78.Red-80-35-162.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === Bel93__ [n=mctux02@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === santote [n=santote@103.Red-83-32-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === daphbobo_ is now known as daphbobo === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@200-232-131-238.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu [01:10] ubuntu, wrong channel ;) === santote_ [n=santote@103.Red-83-32-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === teacher [n=teacher@spfwsaiac01.securepop.ch] has joined #kubuntu === zhangkai [n=zhangkai@222.173.146.82] has joined #kubuntu === colines__ [n=colines@221.Red-83-32-220.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === kraftman [n=kraftman@dxs162.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === sinanimam [n=sinanima@85.97.108.3] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === Kite_DH [n=Kite_DH@p57B37212.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === MementoMori [n=filippo@d83-190-216-216.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu === Bel93__ [n=mctux02@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === UFFFFFF [n=james@96.51.74.218.broad.hz.zj.dynamic.163data.com.cn] has joined #kubuntu === anneso_ [n=anneso@203.80.48.183] has joined #kubuntu === administrador [n=administ@3.Red-81-37-202.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === hyper__ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === stiangre [n=stiangre@1x-193-157-182-15.uio.no] has joined #kubuntu === stiangre [n=stiangre@1x-193-157-182-15.uio.no] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-e3c5a4e76afa8b31] has joined #kubuntu === steffen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === ninHer [n=ninHer@54.Red-83-42-149.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === caris_mere [n=gnarly_b@spfwsaiac01.securepop.ch] has joined #kubuntu === nikita [n=nik@86.57.255.230] has joined #kubuntu === KennethP_ [n=kpo@x1-6-00-0f-b5-65-5a-c3.k324.webspeed.dk] has joined #kubuntu [01:17] I need some help installing Kubuntu [01:17] I am installing with disk. it now says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off === lo [n=lo@by206.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === lucifer [n=lucifer@77.66.148.173] has joined #kubuntu === lo is now known as lo__ === MementoMori [n=filippo@d83-190-216-216.cust.tele2.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:20] What does this mean? /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off [01:21] I can't get my computer to start up the live disk === alejandro [n=asanchez@78.Red-80-35-162.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === ragy [n=ragy@59.145.136.1] has joined #kubuntu === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === mluser [n=mfindley@ip68-0-79-59.tu.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === fideas is now known as zmcbb30 === caris_mere [n=gnarly_b@spfwsaiac01.securepop.ch] has left #kubuntu [] === Stardog [n=mikalsen@104.80-202-88.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:37] ! tar.bz2 [01:37] Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression === Fri13 [n=Fri13@86-60-137-67-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === seishinbyou [n=seishinb@i60-46-238-248.s04.a011.ap.plala.or.jp] has joined #kubuntu === defcon [n=defcon@VDSL-130-13-152-133.PHNX.QWEST.NET] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] so... I have a file wich is kompressed in tar.bz2..... it wont open with ark... or.. it opens in a window... but nothing will apear... anyone know why? [01:40] Stardog: Try "bunzip2 yourfile.tar.bz2" in a shell === marko [n=marko@62.162.220.144] has joined #kubuntu === darkolaus [i=bgd18@212-200-192-229.adsl.static.sezampro.yu] has joined #kubuntu [01:41] hello everybody === sherin [n=dhq@adsl7-68.qualitynet.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:41] i have a question with KPPP, may I ask? [01:41] good evening [01:41] !ask [01:41] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [01:41] hey guys === sherin is now known as dhq === nate_ [n=nate@58.166.17.21] has joined #kubuntu [01:41] Skrot-: k... thx [01:42] ok iv just installed kubuntu 7.04 === lexx[away] [n=lexx@83.234.130.66] has joined #kubuntu [01:42] and when i start KPPP error message appears: === lexx[away] [n=lexx@83.234.130.66] has left #kubuntu [] [01:42] /etc/resolv.conf is missing or can't be read! [01:42] Ask your system administrator to create this file (can be empty) with appropriate read and write permissions. === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [01:42] so whos next inline to help with my simple yet gay problem lol [01:42] when i try to create the file === dhq [n=dhq@unaffiliated/dhq] has joined #kubuntu [01:42] i cant, that is i dont have permitions [01:43] im a linux novice [01:43] so any help is appreciated [01:43] darkolaus: Do you know how to access the shell/terminal? [01:43] i think so [01:43] Or command line interface [01:43] Whatever it's called :p [01:43] i know [01:43] hey i have nvdia grafix card mx 4 i dont know how to get it to work [01:43] i need to do a sudo thingy [01:43] right? [01:43] Maybe, lets see [01:44] ok lets see [01:44] Open the command line interface and enter "cat /etc/resolv.conf" -- let me know if that returns anything [01:44] Without the "'s around [01:44] ps im on windows now [01:44] nvidia? Did you install the restricted drivers? [01:44] ah [01:44] but ok i can hybernate and then return here [01:45] If you can return here while in linux, why do you need KPPP? [01:45] hey i have nvdia grafix card mx 4 i dont know how to get it to work [01:45] what isn't working [01:45] no no no ill try what you said [01:45] darkolaus: ah hold on [01:45] on kubuntu and then return to windows [01:45] darkolaus: You've got something to write on? [01:45] yes [01:45] dhq - are you running feisty === zmcbb30 is now known as fideas [01:46] flake, yes [01:46] get driver from linux website [01:46] flake, huh [01:46] I did mine by installing "restricted-manager" [01:46] doh from nvidia website [01:46] and using that to get the nvidia drivers [01:46] my bad [01:46] darkolaus: Okay, try "cat /etc/resolv.conf" first. If that says no such file or something similar, try "sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf;sudo chmod 755 /etc/resolv.conf" [01:46] and be in terminal - non-gui mode, to install it [01:46] skrot-: ok thanx ill try it [01:47] flake, i installed nvidia-glx it doent load the module [01:47] well, heres the deal, ive install fiesty on my laptop, all went well, update, got berly going, installed some apps. i dont know what i did but all the little icons in the bottom right next to the clock are gone, and even tho i right click, add times, the ones i want arent there, main one is knetwork manager, so i can use mu wireless, how the hell do i get them all back there? :( also my sound is borked, but after some googling thats going to be a pain in the [01:47] as [01:47] still need the driver from nvidia === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === Dekkard [n=right@adsl-68-73-7-46.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === prxq_ is now known as prxq === octoberdan [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/octoberdan] has joined #kubuntu === l3mr [n=l3mr@ifidyn202.ifi.unizh.ch] has joined #kubuntu [01:48] beh, for the nvidia thing, I just did "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager" from a terminal, ran it, clicked the nvidia box, entered a password, and after restarting X, *poof* much happiness [01:48] !nvidia [01:48] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [01:49] nate_: Right click the kicker panel (the one where the clock is) -> Add Applet to Panel -> System Tray -- if it's not on that list something else is wrong. === buz [n=buz@84-72-54-173.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [01:51] ok i did that, the only things that came up where, the speaker, clip board, and battery :( === octoberdan [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/octoberdan] has joined #kubuntu [01:51] nate_: Then start the other apps.. "knetworkmanager" for instance [01:51] nate_: If it doesnt appear after that, try "killall knetworkmanager" and start it again [01:53] yay, its there, thanks heaps, also, my boot process takes a while, it pauses on looking for resume image, even when i shut down [01:53] adds a good 15seconds or so === Xtacy [n=XtaCy@217.69.187.96] has joined #kubuntu [01:53] IS there a problem with nvidia on fiesty ? [01:54] Ive got nvidia on feisty without any trouble [01:54] Not for me... === kostas [n=kostas@87.203.178.186] has joined #kubuntu === nate__ [n=nate@58.166.17.21] has joined #kubuntu === kostas is now known as soviet [01:57] [01:57] Is it possible to have SCIM allow for input from two different keyboards in two different layouts in the same time? (i.e. Japanese on the QWERTY, Arabic on the DVORAK) [01:57] how do i turn off the mouse over info in the tabs, it looks crap cause the beryl ones are working === joe_ [n=joe@bb-87-82-11-208.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === Black_Cat [n=mooncats@di-230.bicomtel.ru] has joined #kubuntu [02:00] nate__: In the System Settings, === Extrapan [i=marcin@pc178-8.piast.ds.polsl.pl] has joined #kubuntu [02:00] . ;; [02:00] Actually, right click the panel and go to settings [02:00] In the "Appearance" section [02:00] uncheck the "General" boxes [02:00] I'm not using an English interface, so I don't know what it is in English === edward_ [n=edward@host81-154-240-8.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === atz [n=anton@c-e29de355.42-1-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] dhq, are you doing ok with it so far === nick_ [n=nick@host62-80-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] any ideas on how to get a intel HDA card working :( its the only thing make me sad now === nick_ is now known as Nitro [02:04] Funny.. my intel hda card worked out of the box === atz [n=anton@c-e29de355.42-1-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [02:05] nate__: lsmod | grep snd return anything [02:05] ? [02:06] shouldi paste here? === KennethP_ [n=kpo@x1-6-00-0f-b5-65-5a-c3.k324.webspeed.dk] has joined #kubuntu [02:07] flake, do i have to install build-essentials [02:07] No, no need. Did it return "snd_hda_intel" and "snd_hda_codec"? [02:07] Among others [02:07] ill look [02:07] nate@natious:~$ lsmod | grep snd [02:07] snd_hda_intel 21912 5 [02:07] snd_hda_codec 205440 1 snd_hda_intel [02:07] right. Try starting kmix and check that the sound isn't muted [02:07] wouldn't hurt === darkolaus [i=bgd18@212-200-198-136.adsl.sezampro.yu] has joined #kubuntu [02:08] flake, flake ??? [02:08] thanx skrot- that worked [02:08] dhq I'm here, it wouldn't hurt [02:08] darkolaus: No problem. You're online from linux now? [02:08] no i have just one more problem [02:08] !mp3 [02:08] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [02:08] how to find out where my winmodem is linked i tried /dev/modem [02:09] No idea about winmodem .| [02:09] did you see the nvidia instructions on installing the driver? === BluesKaj [n=Blues@bas1-sudbury98-1177672029.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:09] ok nvmind [02:09] does anyone knows? [02:09] howdy all :) [02:09] darkolaus: Are you trying to connect using dial-up modem? [02:09] flake, where do i see [02:09] skrot-: yes [02:09] flake, just help me [02:09] you say it is geforce 4 series? [02:09] the 2 top ones were full, bottom one was half, and how do you force kill apps, amarok keeps freezing everytime i try and place somthing [02:10] flake, yes [02:10] darkolaus: Might want to have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto [02:10] quadro fx 4600 or 5600 [02:10] that type? [02:10] dial-up modem = winmodem [02:10] http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp [02:10] skrot: ok i'll look [02:10] select Graphics Driver, cardtype, then os [02:11] it will take you to the screen w/ instructions [02:11] how do you get mp3 playback with noatun? === jbrice [n=jbrice@h230.22.39.162.ip.alltel.net] has joined #kubuntu === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.114.248] has joined #kubuntu [02:13] skrot-: ok thanx i found smth that i think is usable, your the best [02:13] you can't install the nvidia driver while kde is up, I believe === _Johny [n=johny@81-208-106-67.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #kubuntu [02:14] dhq what's your status === nate_ [n=nate@58.166.17.21] has joined #kubuntu [02:16] flake, just a sec === KennethP_ is now known as KennethP [02:17] flake, nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x] (rev c1) === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [02:18] yes you want the gforce 4 series driver [02:18] I assume you are on a 32-bit os, so here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9755.html === maass__ is now known as maass [02:19] click on supported products on left and you'll see your card in the list === AutoMatriX [n=marcus@d83-186-95-55.cust.tele2.be] has joined #kubuntu [02:22] what are some must have apps for linux? [02:22] gimp [02:22] open office, MM3D [02:23] wine if you want to try running some of your windows stuff [02:23] whats MM3D? i have office and gimp === ToyMan [n=Stuart@72.168.167.241] has joined #kubuntu [02:23] sshd? === buz [n=buz@84-72-54-173.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === kostas [n=kostas@87.203.178.186] has joined #kubuntu [02:23] and is there away to have widgets? and change the clock to 12hr lol [02:24] mm3d is if you want to build some basic 3d models and animate them [02:24] !superkaramba | nate_ [02:24] nate_: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org [02:24] you have to build from source though [02:24] nate_: to change to 12-hour, right-click on the clock -> Date & Time Format -> Date & Time tab === olympic_ [n=olympic@203.176.179.42] has joined #kubuntu === mc__ [n=mc@62.218.230.197] has joined #kubuntu [02:25] !qemu [02:25] qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo === edward__ [n=edward@host81-154-240-8.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:26] yay === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [02:27] is there away to emulate xp in linx and have full support on everything? or the best would be to dual boot for gaming === AutoMatriX [n=marcus@d83-186-95-55.cust.tele2.be] has joined #kubuntu [02:27] for gaming, best to dual boot imo - emulating xp is like putting a volvo engine in a lambroughini [02:27] For gaming, if it won't run under wine, then dual boot === gemidjy [n=gemidjy@unaffiliated/gemidjy] has joined #kubuntu === cWolfe [n=fucter@c-68-81-90-85.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:27] VMWare is available, but you won't get native speed on 3d graphics [02:28] It is more than sufficient for things like photoshop and msoffice if you need it === Kite_DH [n=Kite_DH@p57B37212.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:28] or any work-related windows-only software === zulu [n=zulu@CPE-121-209-32-140.sa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@host114-138-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [02:28] oh ok, thats handy [02:28] qemu is the free alternative to vmware [02:28] kqemu is the accelerated version I think === seishinbyou has a license for vmware, so just uses that anyways [02:29] kqemu is an accelerator of sorts for qemu. it's not a qemu version (afaik) [02:29] can qemu handle windows 98 for the older games, including the directx3-6 range? === creadorcreativo [n=insane@201-220-127-219.bk10-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #kubuntu === ha386 [n=ha386@221.153.254.217] has joined #kubuntu [02:29] its funny that wireless worked out the box with kubuntu but didnt for xp/vista, ive migrated from xp>vista>xp>osx86>xp>kubuntu, abit confusing, but seems nicer === Ryiel_ [n=ryiel@183-20-93.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu [02:30] Possibly, but I haven't tried. I could try firing up Diablo or something [02:30] dosbox is good for the older dos games [02:30] depends on what you are running, actually === precipizio [n=fabrizio@151.74.219.214] has joined #kubuntu [02:31] fwfewefwef === savetheWorld [n=Lester@c-24-62-225-133.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === nuu [n=neuro@85-18-14-28.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu === uczen6 [n=uczen6@nat.dzi.vectranet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [02:32] are there any "special repositories" if you know whati mean, and is a anti virus needed on linux? === olympic_ [n=olympic@203.176.179.42] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:32] mech 2 mercenaries - titanium, and mech 2 titanium === dartmolx [n=dartmolx@tequilla.exist.com] has joined #kubuntu === steffen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [02:33] wine wouldn't handle it, or something about my xrander libs but everything seems up to date === pollyo [n=pollyo@c-68-81-43-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === pollyo [n=pollyo@c-68-81-43-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] === gdiebel [n=gdiebel@76.201.146.153] has joined #kubuntu === hhlp [n=hhlp@103.Red-81-34-93.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:35] is there a better kernel i should be using with a core duo? === alain [n=alain@mon69-1-82-67-23-11.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === olympic_ [n=olympic@203.176.179.42] has joined #kubuntu === edward___ [n=edward@host81-154-240-8.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:38] dhq how are you doing === llutz [n=lutz@p54803E8F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === craffop [n=craffop@c-66-177-95-71.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:41] mech 2 mercs? Dosbox should be able to handle that [02:42] nate_: anti-virus on Linux? Erm...you could try using Wine to run Kapersky if you *really* wanted === zenekk [n=krzysiek@aapd131.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [02:43] antivirus: amavis, clamav, f-prot (all native linux, no wine required) === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@8.49.broadband4.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [02:43] ahoj potrebuju pomoct ohledne linux kubuntu === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu [02:43] !cz | ubuntu [02:43] ubuntu: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme. === ubuntu is now known as skane [02:44] Meh === seishinbyou uses linux to get away from the virus scanners and things like Norton that hog all the system resources [02:45] But I remember using f-prot [02:45] (old DOS version) === edward_ [n=edward@host81-154-240-8.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-185-45.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === forge2k [n=mark@c-24-147-31-197.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-93.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu === edward____ [n=edward@host81-154-240-8.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === yamal [n=yamal@unaffiliated/yamal] has joined #kubuntu === n8k99 [n=n8k99@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [02:50] hi === pirox [n=piro@cpe-70-112-73-195.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:51] someone is interested to a program like babylon in windows?? === amitk [n=amit@a81-197-130-222.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [02:51] how i can open reposites in kubuntu 6.06 LTS?? thx === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu [02:51] babylon? === RobNyc-work [n=lycan@65.98.0.130] has joined #kubuntu [02:52] Oh [02:52] <_4strO> skane: kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list [02:52] Hello, as I'm using xchat on gnome each channel is highlighted in red when i receive messages, but here in kubuntu it doesnt work like that [02:52] !repositories | skane [02:52] skane: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu [02:52] <_4strO> skane: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list [02:52] is a program that tranlate on the fly [02:52] from many to many languages [02:52] !info kbabel === BluesKaj [n=Blues@bas1-sudbury98-1177672029.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu === main2 [n=mike0@85.148.12.76] has joined #kubuntu [02:53] kbabel: PO-file editing suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1664 kB, installed size 5380 kB [02:53] thx veru much === edward__ [n=edward@host81-154-240-8.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === MementoMori [n=filippo@d83-190-216-216.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu [02:53] Jucato: i have found a procedure and a great guide to use babylon dictionary and convert it to .dict === gemidjy_ [n=gemidjy@62.162.67.50] has joined #kubuntu [02:53] hi all [02:53] if someone is interested... [02:53] flake, pm please [02:53] I have a problem install kubuntu on a i386 pc [02:53] can someone with a fresh feisty install check if there is a drop down menu on top of the configure panel dialog, from right-clicking the panel and choosing "Configure Panel..."? [02:53] translation on the fly is a real pot-shot, but it depends on your source material [02:54] stdin: yes [02:54] MementoMori: what do you need?? [02:54] dhq ok one sec [02:54] seishinbyou: like this? http://www.zone.ee/zeroconf/errors/kubuntu_7-04_taskbar_changes_not_working/kubuntu_6-10_KDE_3-5-4.png === flake is now known as drarem === gdiebel [n=gdiebel@76.201.146.195] has joined #kubuntu [02:54] I did text install from dvd and put grub in mbr but after reboot grud loads until stage 1.5 and then it says "Error 17" [02:55] s/grud/grub [02:55] right click, go to $B%Z%M%k%a%K%e!<(B and select $B%Q%M%k$N@_Dj(B === seishinbyou is now known as seishinbyou2 === dojodojo [n=chocoa@p6191-ipad86marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #kubuntu === seishinbyou2 is now known as seishinbyou === Ben [n=ben@u37-243.dsl.vianetworks.de] has joined #kubuntu [02:56] I saw a strange thing while I was installing the system [02:56] i have found a guide in italian that say the problem could be a alsa module [02:57] I have only a ide hd on primary master and two dvd device on secondary channel [02:57] but installer saw my hd as sda [02:57] stdin: I see [02:57] instead of hda [02:57] If you don't have 2 panels, I don't know if that is displayed [02:57] i don't know why but sometimes happens, this shouldn't be a problem === nate_ [n=nate@CPE-58-166-17-21.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] MementoMori: sda because of the libata, all ide-devices are mapped now into sdX [02:57] do you have a linux live cd?? [02:58] seishinbyou: it normally is, and I do have 2 panels [02:58] stdin: Oh. Just a second. I'll try some things [02:58] llutz: ok so sda/hda name swapping isnt a problem [02:58] but what about grub error? [02:58] no don't worry [02:58] you can try to reinstall grub === Ikawe [n=ikawe@viborgDHCP-63.216-16-82.iw.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:58] heeyyy === _steffen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [02:59] I have a generi floppy disk with grub [02:59] may I use it? === Lintsi [n=lintsi@dsl-tregw1-fed8df00-231.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [02:59] seishinbyou: I didn't notice it missing before, but someone posted a message to the mailinglist saying it was missing. and it is for me on a new install, but it's there on a system upgraded from edgy === shaffiy [n=shaffiy@bb121-6-80-222.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #kubuntu [02:59] or there is a way to boot from dvd in rescue mode? === juanbox4 [n=juan@190.65.209.68] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@relay03.par.totalfinaelf.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:00] if you can access to your linux partition you can send me your menu.lst file [03:00] the problem should be that grub is not able to mount partition [03:00] stdin: what's missing? [03:00] probably because an error in menu.lst [03:00] Hello, as I'm using xchat on gnome each channel is highlighted in red when i receive messages, but here in kubuntu it doesnt work like that .. anyone else using xchat ? [03:00] sercik: I'll try to access the disk but gimme just 10 minutes, ok? [03:00] konversation [03:01] yes [03:01] i'm here [03:01] Jucato: the panel chooser dropdown menu: http://www.zone.ee/zeroconf/errors/kubuntu_7-04_taskbar_changes_not_working/kubuntu_6-10_KDE_3-5-4.png [03:01] ok thank you === aziz [n=aziz@chello084112072063.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu [03:01] stdin: Okay, that might be the case === gemidjy_ is now known as gemidjy [03:01] I'm on an upgraded system [03:01] stdin: is it your problem? just restart kicker [03:01] RobNyc-work: i like konversation as irc client [03:01] I would have to install a new system to try [03:01] is already installed in kubuntu [03:01] afaik it's a KDE 3.5.5-.6 intermittent bug [03:01] sercik, i dont think there are any scripts for it like sysinfo ones [03:01] Jucato: I have it too, but others have it (it was reported on the mailing list) [03:02] RobNyc-work: i don't use script sorry! [03:02] stdin: yeah it's sort of a bug that I still haven't been able to pin down [03:02] hehe [03:02] you can tri to wun mirc wirth wine! [03:02] you can try to run mirc wirth wine! [03:02] why would you do that? [03:02] dupa [03:02] Jucato: restarting kicker doesn't solve it here [03:03] stdin: "dcop kicker kicker restart" doesn't work? [03:03] konversation isn't going to save the world, but I don't have a problem with it, and it works with international character sets just fine [03:03] mIRC keeps screwing up the CJK encoding for me :( [03:03] hi, how can i make the java console visible in firefox? [03:03] Jucato: it restarted kicker, but didn't bring back the dropdown menu === Kite_DH [n=Kite_DH@p57B37212.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:04] seishinbyou: i like konversation its clean and speed and works good for me [03:04] stdin: hm... can you try looking into kcontrol itself? and do you have 2 panels right now? === akrus [n=akrus@62.140.224.26] has joined #kubuntu === RobNyc-work [n=lycan@65.98.0.130] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:05] Jucato: ahh, it just showed up === frank_ [n=frank@53573447.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === darkx_ [n=darkx@host28-181-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu [03:05] Jucato: strange little bug there === frank_ is now known as DJServers [03:06] hi all [03:06] the fact that it's so intermittent makes it annoying even more === makki [n=makki@221.132.113.166] has joined #kubuntu === animimotus [n=animimot@unaffiliated/animimotus] has left #kubuntu ["sans] === CrypTom [n=cryptom@proxy.gymkirchenfeld.ch] has joined #kubuntu === paola_ [n=paola@130.136.31.42] has joined #kubuntu === zinger [n=zinger@ip-142-19.zax.pl] has joined #kubuntu === [GuS] [n=gustavo@190.48.104.102] has joined #Kubuntu [03:08] can i have krandrtray in kubuntu?? [03:08] i like it but i can't find [03:08] or to have another tool in tray that permit to switch resolution?? [03:09] hm? Alt+F2, "krandrtray" === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@i02m-87-89-248-3.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #kubuntu === sakabatou [n=sakabato@sb-217-129-120-240.netvisao.pt] has joined #kubuntu [03:10] i'm stupid!! [03:10] i search in apt-cache and in synaptic but i wan not able to find it === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === velle__ [n=velle@ip-26-137.bnaa.dk] has joined #kubuntu === animimotus [n=animimot@86.73.177.99] has joined #kubuntu [03:10] sercik: ok. I have menu.lst [03:10] !paste === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu [03:11] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) [03:11] !nopaste [03:11] Sorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [03:11] krandrtray, woot. Now I can run at 320x240 [03:11] after update no taskbar!! please help to return it [03:11] MementoMori: paste that [03:11] sercik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21127/ [03:11] that you need to explain me: how much hard disk do you have?? === xardie [n=xardias@xdsl-87-78-135-236.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu [03:12] makki: right click the panel. "Add to Panel" Select Taskbar === archivo [n=archivo@200.44.49.151] has joined #kubuntu [03:12] sercik: it's because it's not in a separate package. krandrtray is part of kdebase [03:12] sercik: I have sda1: windows; sda2: swap; sda3: /; sda4: /home [03:12] Jucato: thank you!! [03:12] MementoMori: do you have only one HD?? [03:13] and is configured as primary master?? [03:13] sercik: yes === ToyMan [n=Stuart@72.168.167.241] has joined #kubuntu [03:13] are you able to start other OS? [03:13] sercik: no because of grub error [03:14] ah so you don't see list of operating system? === orient2000 [n=orient20@CPE00e018fe7049-CM0014f85e8fb0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:14] grub stop working before menu loads === hnsn [n=hnsn@pc11-321-06.Student.hig.se] has joined #kubuntu [03:15] no. grub stop at stage 1.5 with error 17 === Secutor [n=mark@c-67-169-16-102.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:15] can you edit menu.lst file?? [03:15] Hi! I have some problem with Evolution. I have only one font style. No bold characters for e-mail or diferent size. Do I miss some any packages? [03:15] yes I can because I booted with a finnix live cd === tackat [n=tackat@87.139.82.80] has joined #kubuntu === seishinbyou uses kmail, despite the random crashes once in a while [03:16] probably if you can't see list of operating system the problem is in grub and not in menu.lst you can try for a guide in internet.. === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [03:17] it is possible to copy grub in a floppy and start the system with it [03:17] sercik: how can I do this? [03:17] you can also try to substitute hd0 with sd0 in menu.lst === david_ [n=david@host217-46-204-113.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #kubuntu === blenheim [n=blenheim@217-78-203-59.ktab.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [03:18] but first you could delete grub from mbr at least you could boot windows xp [03:18] you need a dos boot disk and do the command fdisk /mbr === david_ [n=david@host217-46-204-113.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:19] will that work on a usb clipdrive, too? [03:19] assuming you can boot from usb === kaukx [n=kaukx@ip118-208.anet.lt] has joined #kubuntu [03:20] what should I copy to the floppy to have a grub shell on boot? [03:20] i have a guide but is in italian === marcella [n=marcella@151.83.2.19] has joined #kubuntu [03:20] sercik: this is great because I'm italian ;) [03:21] lucky night [03:21] Ciao! === marcella is now known as laras [03:21] ciao! [03:22] wait a minute i search it [03:22] ok [03:23] i remeber bad i have found the guide but is in english but i don't think this is a problem for you === magical_trevsky [n=magical@80-45-41-53.static.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:23] wow, ntfs tools didn't choke on my ntfs drive [03:24] will wonders never cease === dergringo [n=dergring@ns2.uplink-netz.ch] has joined #kubuntu === Ayabara [n=Ayabara@cm-84.210.83.052.chello.no] has joined #kubuntu [03:24] Which is great because Windows chokes on that drive === steffen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [03:25] i have a question === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-013f6997d1d8317e] has joined #kubuntu === ToyMan [n=Stuart@72.168.167.241] has joined #kubuntu [03:26] !ask | DJServers [03:26] DJServers: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [03:26] i have downloaded an MTA Server but when i try t install it in konsole i typ: sudo apt-get install mta_server but then it says cannot find tthe file [03:27] !uboto [03:27] Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [03:27] just checking :) [03:27] somebody nows i need the server before saturday [03:28] DJServers, to what folder where did you downloads the file ? === maud_dib [n=mahdi@cpe-76-178-204-94.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Pensacola [n=pensacol@138.33-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu [03:29] to; /home/frank/MTA-Server [03:29] test [03:29] what kind of file is it ? [03:29] wait a sec === jakelights [n=jakeligh@58.225.117.68] has joined #kubuntu [03:30] help please what is the command if my adept crashes? [03:31] ehm.. how to say it in english it is an useble file or something:P i am from hollan so === stylus [i=stylus@freenode/helper/stylus] has joined #kubuntu [03:31] !aptfix | jakelights [03:31] jakelights: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a [03:32] thanks [03:32] DJServers, what's the file extension ? === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [03:33] where can i see that? [03:33] !postfix [03:33] postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto [03:33] usually the last couple of letters in the file name [03:34] BleusKaj, where can i see that ? === ddaedalus [n=bartek@sub87-230-126-200.he-dsl.de] has joined #kubuntu === os2mac [n=jim@209.193.53.178] has joined #kubuntu [03:34] the name of the file [03:35] there just stand mta_server [03:35] not any more === GJo [n=gjo@62.13.172.67] has joined #kubuntu === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === makki [n=makki@221.132.113.166] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:38] DJServers, http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMailMTA.html#MTA [03:38] BleusKaj. what to do now? [03:38] o [03:38] or use postfix === drarem [n=rmcdanie@6532142hfc81.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:38] and that is [03:38] !postfix [03:38] but its an game server [03:38] postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto [03:38] no no not the MTA Mail Server === HanzZ [n=HanzZ@212.24.149.74] has joined #kubuntu [03:39] the MTA Game Server For GTA San Andreas === zido [n=zido@80.179.6.34.static.012.net.il] has joined #kubuntu [03:39] where did you download it from? === danimo [n=danimo@gw-2s00.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic] has joined #kubuntu === gemidjy [n=gemidjy@unaffiliated/gemidjy] has joined #kubuntu [03:40] DJServers, http://wiki.mtasa.com/index.php?title=MTA:SA_Race-Linux_Server_Guide [03:40] http://www.mtasa.com/dl-archive.html [03:41] i have a look there === danimo [n=danimo@gw-2s00.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === edward_ [n=edward@host81-154-240-8.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === BluesKaj [n=Blues@bas1-sudbury98-1177672029.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu [03:43] !dual-boot [03:43] Dual boot instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh) === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@e180254241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu === busfahrer [n=chris@unixboard/user/busfahrer] has joined #kubuntu [03:46] hi, hab rger mit der kubuntu installation. kann mir jemand helfen? === rysiek|pl [n=rysiek|p@brama.elka.pw.edu.pl] has joined #kubuntu === sercik [n=sercik@host199-160-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu === joeren [n=joeren@58.209.152.85] has joined #kubuntu [03:47] ubuntu: #kubuntu-de [03:47] !de | ubuntu [03:47] ubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de === _4str1 [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-70-66.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === user__ [n=user@89.232.5.201] has joined #kubuntu [03:49] !konversation [03:49] Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === kristjan_ [n=kristjan@ubr2-217-33.narva.stv.ee] has joined #kubuntu [03:49] what's the best way to preserve grub (dual boot) while reinstalling windows ? [03:50] there is no way... you will have to reinstall grub [03:50] Windows doesn't really give you the choice not to install it's own bootloader [03:51] ok , wife insists on the windows option til she gets used to edgy. [03:51] reinstall windows, then reinstall grub [03:51] vmware not an option? [03:51] she's very reluctant [03:51] or that [03:52] not on her old pc === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h68n1c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu === steffen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === bomber [n=bomber@c-71-233-8-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Smooph [n=Smooph@p54AE5C46.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:52] just follow the reinstalling grub guide then [03:53] right , I have the supergrub cd === crowbar [n=crowbar@grond.rutgers.edu] has joined #kubuntu === AFaith [n=AFaith@86.35.207.246] has joined #kubuntu === bipolar [n=bflong@216-164-162-138.pa.subnet.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === mo0osah [n=mo0osah@ppp-70-253-57-31.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === maass [n=maass@88.213.45.176] has joined #kubuntu === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu === edward___ [n=edward@host86-145-3-87.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:54] How do I make the user list visible in konversation === faib [n=faib@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:55] ctrl+h [03:55] mo0osah [03:55] thanks! === AyandeION [n=ayande@c83-250-186-109.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu === xoss [n=Jeko@203.111.235.139] has joined #kubuntu === geert [n=geert@d54C13714.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu [03:57] X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169 [03:57] Major opcode: 145 [03:57] Minor opcode: 3 [03:57] Resource id: 0x0 [03:57] Failed to open device [03:57] <_4str1> !baddevice | DJServers [03:57] DJServers: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors [03:58] X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169 [03:58] Major opcode: 145 [03:58] Minor opcode: 3 [03:58] Resource id: 0x0 [03:58] Failed to open device [03:58] kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 11 [03:58] i get that [03:58] o thx [03:58] Is it possible to make konversation transparent? [03:58] hello people [03:58] have a question [03:58] does anyone of you know [03:58] what happens on pclinuxos irc channel ? === edward__ [n=edward@host86-145-3-87.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:59] AFaith: yesterday you asked how to create a .deb package?? [03:59] sercik: yes :P [03:59] i have created three .deb [03:59] but i suspect that they are not able to check dependendies === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h68n1c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:00] sercik: i've found a very good tutorial on howtoforge [04:00] about creating deb packages [04:00] the program is checkinstall you need only to ./configure and then you need to do sudo checkinstall === hrhansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [04:00] yes, i referring on the same program :) [04:00] at the end you have a backup a .deb qnd the software already installed === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h68n1c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu === bobesponja [n=pat@bas75-1-82-235-231-205.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === hhlp [n=hhlp@151.Red-83-49-202.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:02] i need the last thing to make my kubuntu perfect... an installation of win2k with usb working [04:02] sercik: i don't understand [04:03] whats the connection between a perfect kubuntu and win2k ? [04:03] i mean win2k virtualized under kubuntu === dergringo [n=dergring@ns2.uplink-netz.ch] has joined #kubuntu [04:03] i have tried but i'm not able to do usb working === zerbero_ [n=jga@p85.212.76.15.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu [04:04] oh... i see === hhlp_ [n=hhlp@246.Red-83-49-113.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === zhangkai [n=zhangkai@222.173.146.82] has joined #kubuntu === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@84.123.102.148.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:06] is there anything like manedit for KDE? === memet [n=memet@150.140.212.242] has joined #kubuntu === blekos [n=blekos@ppp125-110.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #kubuntu === wetermvd_ [n=wetermvd@c529c3b77.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu === LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #kubuntu [04:09] http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors i cant change the xorg.conf then it says connot be saved no acces to this file === pag [n=pavel@cs78224067.pp.htv.fi] has joined #kubuntu [04:09] only the owner can change the acces === _hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu === _4str1 is now known as _4strO [04:11] <_4strO> DJServers: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf === unixguru88 [n=unixguru@125.99.213.200] has joined #kubuntu === hnsn [n=hnsn@pc11-321-06.Student.hig.se] has left #kubuntu [] === explore [n=explore@p57B8DCDC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:12] what is java path which is to be set in opera === andre_moraes [n=andre@BCA201062208158.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === PascalFR_ [n=PascalFr@pcpc.vmfacility.fr] has joined #kubuntu === apol [n=apol@240.red-62-57-49.user.auna.net] has joined #kubuntu === hs_ [n=hs@fwbox.uevora.pt] has joined #kubuntu === PascalFR_ [n=PascalFr@pcpc.vmfacility.fr] has joined #kubuntu [04:16] i cant rewirt the .conf file === stewk [n=stewk@adsl-10-199-245.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === zarrelli [n=zarrelli@81-208-36-80.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #kubuntu [04:16] I just use "sudo vi xorg.conf", but you would have to know the vi commands [04:16] <_4strO> DJServers: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf === hansen_ [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [04:17] yeah i can open it but when i changed it i cant save it === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:17] thats the prob [04:17] <_4strO> DJServers: ??? you type 'kdesu' ? [04:18] where to type? in konsole ? === administrador__ [n=administ@200.187.145.130] has joined #kubuntu === neurobug [n=neurobug@200.26.147.138] has joined #kubuntu [04:18] <_4strO> DJServers: yes, type : kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf [04:18] !rar [04:18] rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free [04:18] hi everyone [04:18] <_4strO> last time i say it to you ... [04:19] somebody help meeeeeee! [04:19] <_4strO> !ask | neurobug [04:19] neurobug: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [04:19] look now i get this wait a sec [04:20] I changed the screen resolution to 1440x900 but when I reboot the pc, the resolution is 1024x768 again [04:20] kbuildsycoca running... [04:20] kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available! [04:20] Invalid entry (missing '=') at /tmp/kde-root/kconf_updateKARzQa.tmp:1 [04:20] kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf [04:20] neurobug: using a thinkpad? [04:20] <_4strO> DJServers: dont paste plz [04:20] <_4strO> i know what you have ... [04:20] ok srry [04:20] hey it open [04:20] <_4strO> ;) [04:20] hooray for modern technology [04:20] but can i now change it? [04:21] you're the one with the keyboard [04:21] <_4strO> DJServers: you open it as the root user (kdesu) so you can do everything [04:21] okay thx === steffen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu [04:22] its saved thx you!! very much!! no lets see if the server rins [04:22] <_4strO> neurobug: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? [04:23] *runs === mato [n=mato@dial-212-218.orange.sk] has joined #kubuntu [04:23] I'm using a laptop: hp pavilion dv9000 === style [n=style@CPE-24-163-128-75.new.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === hhlp [n=hhlp@116.Red-81-37-207.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-124.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu [04:24] The nvidia driver are succesully configured === mato [n=mato@dial-212-218.orange.sk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:24] <_4strO> neurobug: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? [04:24]