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[01:51] if you're asking, then probably not. [01:51] thank you [01:51] running the development branch is perilous at times. 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See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1 [05:12] _emet_: holla [05:12] <_emet_> hi [05:12] are you trying it out yet? [05:12] <_emet_> anyone know gutsy launchpad [05:12] <_emet_> not yet [05:12] the xfce side of things is pretty broken, but the gnome stuff is mostly ok [05:13] and the new CLI stuff is champ [05:14] <_emet_> I'm prob going to install it when the first alpha comes out [05:16] dist-upgrade [05:16] :) [05:16] more things break if you don't start fresh [05:16] then you can find/report more bugs [05:18] <_emet_> true [05:18] <_emet_> I might do it with this install [05:19] <_emet_> seems gutsy is going to have an install-time option to only install open source things [05:19] oh yeah, that's gonna rock === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:21] does that obsolete gnewsense? [05:21] that'd be cool [05:21] more unity is good, right? [05:22] yeah [05:22] I hope theres no political banter in the installer :( [05:23] i know it's not a big step of windows setup, but i really like not having to read/agree to a license to install ubuntu [05:23] i feel really free when i'm not bothered with paperwork like that [05:24] little things like that, they only take a moment not to do... but they feel so great === cyphase [n=cyphase@c-76-102-74-27.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-595b2a57ec593ae6] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pwuertz__ [n=pwuertz@dslb-084-058-039-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === macogw [n=mack@unaffiliated/macogw] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p5B15DF8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dink [i=Dink@gateway/tor/x-a47bd20183fb5296] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-176-166-197.dhcp.gvrb.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:19] Is there anything significantly new in Gutsy, so far? [06:22] yeah [06:22] the build toolchain [06:22] also i think rtorrent is new [06:22] although it could be updated in feisty as well [06:22] I can back up my Feisty system on a whim, and dist-upgrade; however, now may be too early. [06:22] some new buils of gnome and xfce stuff [06:23] you can dist-upgrade and dist-downgrade [06:23] the shiniest stuff right now is under the hood, namely Linux. [06:23] i mean if you switch your sources back, you should be able to go back [06:23] or Pidgin if that floats your boat. [06:23] I added Pidgin to Feisty already. [06:23] I did a dpkg --force-depends-version [06:24] there's still "gaim-text" instead of "pidgin-text" [06:24] was that project abandoned or was the link just forgotten? [06:24] then since it kept wanting to remove the package, I removed the info about Pidgin from /var/lib/dpkg/status [06:25] I think pidgin's text client is to have a new name [06:25] i hope it is called dove [06:25] for being the same as a pigeon but with a nicer public image [06:25] whatever it is, it's been announced [06:25] Finch. [06:25] the public isn't who uses text IM clients [06:25] Finch. === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:25] Oh, and preferences are stored in .purple. [06:26] Good luck trying to find that one, looking for .pidgin [06:26] "Pidgin", I get -- it's a play on "pidgin" and "pigeon", [06:26] How is pidgin a play on pidgin? That makes no sense... [06:27] but I disagree with "finch" and "purple" -- where's the coherence? But the Gaim, er, Pidgin devs don't seem to want to change anything now. [06:27] look on Wikipedia. === cpk1 [n=cpk1@sjs-130-65-211-115.sjsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:27] At least with Beryl, you have that and Emerald and Heliodor and Aquamarine. Those are all various gems. [06:28] buhbye. goodnight. [06:30] I still sometimes think Gusty as Gutsy. Er, the other way around. Aack, I just did it then, too. === compengi [n=compengi@85.112.64.50] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cpk1 [n=cpk1@sjs-130-65-211-115.sjsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Andruk [n=chatzill@c-67-166-6-250.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starz [n=pie@unaffiliated/starscalling] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starz [n=pie@unaffiliated/starscalling] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ahumane [n=oem@ool-43557e7c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cpk1 [n=cpk1@sjs-130-65-211-115.sjsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === eobanb [n=eoban@user-0c93gne.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-44-59.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === borg_ [n=olaf@80.149.17.21] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:00] sorry, totally off topic, but #ubuntu is sort of ignoring me, my friend's got a laptop with 128mb system ram, and I'm debating between reccomending ubuntu or xubuntu. I found that xfce is a little lacking in the user friendlyness and i sorta would rather have him have a good first experience with ubuntu, but on the other hand, i dunno if 128mb is enough to run GNOME at any sort of reasonable speed, what do you guys think? (i'm [08:00] going to reccomend the alternate install cd either way) === starscalling [n=pie@unaffiliated/starscalling] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:01] I'd go XFCE on that - it will run Gnome, but not ideally. 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[11:23] screen ? === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:25] <[phaedrus] > the nohup thing [11:25] <[phaedrus] > how do you add it? [11:26] <[phaedrus] > alright... figured it out... 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[04:00] I need some help [04:00] I want to do something weird [04:00] I want to : [04:01] make a ntfs partition Inside of a ext3 ojne [04:01] one* [04:01] and boot into it from grub [04:01] is there a way to do this ? [04:03] "Inside" an ext3 one? [04:03] Could you be a bit more descriptive? [04:04] terlmann: not likely to be inside an ext3 but make a new partition that is ntfs [04:04] can't [04:04] inside [04:04] yes [04:04] make a large file , mark it read only to the ext3 system(ubuntu) , and give grub some commands === j_ack [n=jack@p508D986B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:05] no partitions are just that you cant have one inside another [04:05] You can do that, somewhat, with Qemu, but I'm pretty sure you can't boot to it from Grub. [04:05] Qemu handles that itself. [04:05] well grub cannot directly adress the host hardware [04:05] although there are limits on what ext3 can have in way of size === LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:07] There is A way , somehow, somewhere [04:08] terlmann: also remember this channel is only for gutsy topics please see #ubuntu for your needs [04:08] can't grub read a partition's data [04:08] grub reads kernel [04:08] yea, well, I am, , ya know , gutsy alright [04:08] and boot parameters === Toma- [n=e17@124-168-91-35.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:10] well, what if a bootloader could read the partition ? [04:11] terlmann: it reads the partition but if there isnt a boot parameter set it cant boot it and will give you a not found error [04:13] well, can we give it some god-like parameters ? === PascalFR_ [n=PascalFr@pcpc.vmfacility.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:14] terlmann: your going way outside the relem of support at this point. and if you are using gutsy dont attempt it [04:14] yep, I am going off the charts === PascalFR_ [n=PascalFr@pcpc.vmfacility.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:15] terlmann: your better off asking in #ubuntu-offtopic see if someone knows there but it way outside support issue at this point [04:16] does gutsy even have a herd one out yet ? [04:16] terlmann: no [04:16] and it wont be herd [04:17] ehehe [04:17] so who is complaining ? 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[05:32] yep [05:32] okay, next question [05:33] i do "apt-get source -b linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22" [05:33] are the compiled modules for the ubuntu kernel or for (my own) running kernel? === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-4e8c6fbf5815a26b] has joined #ubuntu+1 === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starz [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@206.34-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starscal1ing [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starscal2ing [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shatrat [n=root@74-137-219-146.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@206.34-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starscalling [n=pie@unaffiliated/starscalling] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _raphael_ [n=Khamael@87.80-202-81.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-6-85.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starz [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starscal1ing [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starscal2ing [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starscalling [n=pie@unaffiliated/starscalling] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Lunar_Lamp [i=lunar@jpaweb02.planetarion.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starz [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === acuster [n=acuster@min31-4-82-240-185-35.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@206.34-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starscal1ing [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@DSL217-132-46-214.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sen3 [n=sen@206.34-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starscal2ing [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mikelevel [n=MoVeWoRk@60.Red-80-25-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@135.sub-75-203-29.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === akrus`Away [n=akrus@62.140.224.26] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starscalling [n=pie@unaffiliated/starscalling] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rj__ [n=rj@unaffiliated/rj-] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PriceChild wonders why all his fonts are wierd === sen3 [n=sen@206.34-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starz [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@135.sub-75-203-29.myvzw.com] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [07:11] PriceChild: because everyone elses is also on gutsy [07:11] Pardon? [07:11] I saw this on Feisty once and I think a reboot fixed whatever it is... === PriceChild notices xserver-xorg-core get updated to 1.3 but not xserver-xorg or any others... === starscal1ing [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:14] PriceChild: they are comming. with gutsy reboot wont help (maybe a little) depening on what packages you have wait for fonts to get updated [07:14] Hehe [07:14] I'm impatient :) === micahcowan [n=micahcow@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:16] erm.... [07:16] right click adjust date and time... tells me my platform isn't supported [07:16] hehe I'm loving gutsy already :D [07:16] feisty's been boring for a couple of months, this is much better :) [07:18] because gutsy isnt in the list (most likely hasnt been merged yet) === starscalling [n=pie@unaffiliated/starscalling] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:27] hehe yeah === ikonia [n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starz [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === seraphim [n=seraphim@e179139248.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.68.49.95] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mikelevel [n=MoVeWoRk@60.Red-80-25-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starscal1ing [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:35] PriceChild: hey, now you can test my compiz packages :) [07:36] I can yes [07:36] PriceChild: http://dev.realistanew.com/compiz/packages === eobanb [n=eoban@user-0c93gne.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:36] Is this gonna mess up my upgrades.... /me looks at versioning [07:37] ooh, new X stuff being uploaded [07:37] hehe yeah i got -core earlier [07:37] already been stomping my feet impatiently wanting the resto f it [07:39] I just got a big red error from gdebi about broken cache etc. etc. and got scared Amaranth! === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === luis_lopez [n=llopez@68.182.90.59] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starscalling [n=pie@unaffiliated/starscalling] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:40] PriceChild: compiz-core has a Breaks on compiz-extra [07:40] Hobbsee: yeah, xserver 1.3, here we come [07:40] yeah its all fine [07:40] fixing it now [07:40] Hobbsee: yeah it means breakage!!! [07:41] gnomefreak: woo! === gnomefreak cant wait === gnomefreak wonders what happened to binary NEW :( [07:42] Amaranth, something's not right... :P [07:42] window decorators not working... [07:43] gnomefreak: it's probably waiting [07:43] gnomefreak: what about it? [07:43] gnomefreak: that it's so big? [07:43] upgrade all of them, start metacity, kill emerald and gtk-window-decorator, start compiz [07:43] Hobbsee: it hasnt gone through [07:43] gnomefreak: archive admins may not be here === gnomefreak just waiting for it [07:43] ah good point [07:44] Amaranth, i'm just getting seg faults [07:44] PriceChild: maybe you should build it on your own :) [07:44] check the src dir [07:44] Amaranth, you're the one that told me to test your packages! :P === starscal2ing [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:45] heh [07:45] i mean build from the source package === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === valehru [n=valehru@123.113.187.133] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PriceChild embarrasses himself remembering how to build [07:48] PriceChild: pdebuild ftw [07:48] pdeuild? [07:49] I should know these thigns... [07:50] right doing it atm... [07:50] PriceChild: btw, you must already have the pango update [07:50] that fixes the synaptic crashes, iirc [07:50] yeah :) === gnomefreak finds doing it without pbuilder is easier atleast to me === PriceChild creates a gutsy pbuilder and starts === starz [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:53] Why is this pbuilder taking ages to create? === PriceChild growls [07:55] chroot!!!!!! [07:55] ;) [07:56] PriceChild: why are you recreating? dont you have one from feisty? [07:56] Nope === starscal1ing [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:56] not that i know of anyway [07:57] I've switched mirror and its zooming along now :) [07:57] main mirrors must be getting hit... :s === starscalling [n=pie@unaffiliated/starscalling] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starscal1ing [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 === starz [n=pie@75.80.4.131] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:15] Amaranth, i forgot to install your libs.... :P [08:16] hahaha [08:16] yeah, that'll do it === PriceChild tries again === cypherdelic [n=cypherde@e182017230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:16] just noticed after finishing the pbuild [08:16] should probably make the compiz-gnome and compiz-kde packages have versioned dependencies [08:16] yeah that's working nicely now :) [08:16] even if I _HATE_ the defaults :P [08:17] I haven't used wall yet... 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[11:29] I am running Xchat, Rhythmbox, Pidgin, and Firefox. My load average is FOUR. [11:31] I recommend you install systemtap and investigate further. [11:31] it may be as simple as (re)activating DMA. [11:31] or you may need to feed the hamsters inside your machine. They do tire after a few thousands run o' the wheel, you know. [11:35] nzk: the topic. [11:35] nzk: and clearly, the answer is "because it hates you" === problemdog [n=problemd@dsl5400DE45.pool.t-online.hu] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [11:38] I'm using Feisty [11:38] Not Gutsy [11:39] yes. hence, it's offtopic [11:40] Well, I can't really go into Ubuntu so I don't have much of a choice === mode/#ubuntu+1 [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === nzk [n=nzk@unaffiliated/nzk] has left #ubuntu+1 [requested] === mode/#ubuntu+1 [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === catid [n=catid@c-76-17-113-1.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1