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Sanneluca: from their online manual: "Come to the #kbfx channel on irc.freenode.org"12:14
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zoroastrebonjour  tous, hello all12:17
aleksanteri!fr | zoroastre12:17
ubotuzoroastre: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:17
zoroastrefr yes12:17
mauroexit12:18
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zoroastreis there anybody using freenet ??12:18
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geniizoroastre By freenet you mean a free dialup service?12:29
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Bi||aBongi have a problem with my monitor, this have a blinking12:31
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spanner3003can i talk about LinuxMCE in here?12:32
spanner3003just want to know if there is any other way to download then torrent?12:33
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BluesKajmaybe you should look for a room with that name "#LinuxMCE"12:37
jontec_hey, is anyone able to help me? amd64, 7.04 kdm/X hangs after I login12:37
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santote_jontec_ what you did after that?12:38
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jontec_is there any way to kill all of the apps currently in KDE's memory... like kill all of the ones that will start after I power on and login?12:38
jontec_is there like a cache or something that KDE keeps that I can delete?12:38
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santote_mmm i dont know12:39
santote_sorry12:39
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jontec_Woody_: well best is subjective and is an opinion: install them both and see for yourself12:40
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mikemy /dev/ directory does not list my hard disks.  no hda hdb.  nothing.  ls -l | grep hd    returns Nothing12:40
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jontec_dangett I keep forgetting that I'm not talking in #ubuntu12:41
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Daisuke_Idomike: try sd12:41
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mikewhat is sd12:42
Daisuke_Idonew kernel went purely to sd* rather than hd*12:42
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido:  any idea how to restore grub without having to do a "fake install" ?12:43
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jontec_gah... I really don't want to reconfigure xorg if it's going to screw with my ati card drivers12:43
Skrot-Daisuke_Ido: For IDE devices as well?12:43
Daisuke_Idoyou're using proprietary ati drivers and wonder why it isn't working?  i think we just found the problem12:43
Daisuke_IdoSkrot-: yes12:43
Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: should be able to edit the grub configuration12:44
Daisuke_Idobut other than that, i dunno12:44
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mikereally! oh... ok... ls -l | grep sd     lists the drives.12:44
jontec_Daisuke_Ido: well, seeing as how I've had them installed for 4 months without problems, no I think I should be fine.12:44
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Dekkardv /j #ubuntu12:46
Dekkardoops12:46
jontec_... I really wish I knew why this was broken.12:46
Asdchi - what is best way to add #Kubuntu Channel as a permanent choice in XChat? any help?12:47
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido: unfortunately the boot menu lists the partition but I get "error 17 unable to mount partition"...I was trying the fake install procedure but I get stuck at the format stage , unable to go further without wiping everything :(12:47
mikewhy do they use sd instead of hd for hard disk's in the new kernal? just curious12:49
BluesKajrunning the live cd so I'm unsure how to edit the grub menu12:49
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SanneAsdc: should be: in the menu, Xchat->Serverlist, edit your server entry, then find the line "channels to join". Never tried myself, though.12:50
Asdcthx sanne12:50
Asdcwill try12:50
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SanneAsdc: you're welcome12:50
Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: chroot environment?12:50
Sannemike: I read the newer kernels now use scsi emulation for both SATA and IDE disks.12:51
Asdchay sanne - currently using kunbuntu w/kde - is there irc type app you like better then xchat?12:52
Sannemike: I don't know the reason for that, though.12:52
Daisuke_IdoAsdc: anything non-gtk12:52
Daisuke_Idokvirc or konversation12:52
mikethanks though.  I was really worried when hda was gone12:52
SanneAsdc: actually I use Xchat myself on Kubuntu :) It was my first irc app on Linux, so I just stuck with that. But I hear Konversation is nice as well.12:52
BluesKajdunno Daisuke_Ido chroot?12:53
Sannemike: yeah, I can imagine, would have scared me also :)12:53
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DragnslcrKonversation is good, but doesn't have any scripting support12:54
Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: just throwing out ideas, never actually done it :)12:54
Daisuke_IdoDragnslcr: sure it does12:54
Daisuke_Idoit actually uses bash scripting12:54
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Daisuke_Idosee?12:54
DragnslcrI thought I checked the site and it said it doesn't support scripts12:55
Daisuke_Idosorry for the spam, but a short demonstration was in order12:55
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Daisuke_IdoDragnslcr: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-network/konversation/scripting.html12:57
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DragnslcrHm, interesting. Looks like it still only supports grabbing the output of a script with /exec12:58
guillermohi12:58
Dragnslcri.e. no event-based handling12:59
guillermoi need help wth some ATI drivers12:59
Daisuke_IdoDragnslcr: for now12:59
guillermodoes anyone know hpw to?12:59
Daisuke_Ido!ati12:59
guillermoi fixed them yesterday and it seemd to work ok, but today it des not12:59
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:59
Daisuke_Idovoila12:59
guillermoobuto i checked that yesterday12:59
soulriderguys, i need some urgent help. My friend has windows and linux. but lately when he tries to boot linux it just freezes at 'starting up' and if he chooses recovery mode it sais 'weird, boot cpu #15 not listed in BIOS' or something very similar01:00
Daisuke_Idoalthough a better solution is to perform a ritual on your ati card, i don't care what one, as long as it ends in the card being destroyed in a fire01:00
soulriderhe cant log into windows either, he gets a blank screen01:00
soulriderDaisuke_Ido:  LOL01:00
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Daisuke_Idosoulrider: that sounds bad.01:00
soulriderDaisuke_Ido: yeah01:00
soulriderit happened to him before but it fixed itself01:01
soulriderits really random01:01
soulriderits a brand new PC too01:01
Daisuke_Idohe overclocked?  overheated?01:01
soulriderand i installed kubuntu on it myself01:01
soulridernope01:01
soulriderits winter too :P01:01
Asdcthx - sanne - sorry for long wait on reply - wifey got home from work01:01
Daisuke_Idoif it's new, i'd say refund or exchange01:01
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DragnslcrDaisuke_Ido- I'll have to keep an eye on Konversation development then. I've gotten used XChat the past couple weeks, but I liked Konversation while I was using it01:01
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soulriderDragnslcr: konversation is great01:02
roadfishI get m1 M2 then m2 ... but shouldn't I get m1 m2 _then_ M1?01:02
roadfish   python -c "print 'm1\nM1\nm2'" | sort01:02
SanneAsdc: ah, that's a very good reason! Hope she's fine and enjoys being home :)01:02
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Daisuke_Idoroadfish: i think caps take precedence over lowercase?  maybe?01:03
Daisuke_Idoiunno01:03
roadfishwait, I mean that I get m1 M1 then m201:03
Daisuke_Idothat's odd01:03
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roadfishDaisuke_Ido: that's why I'm puzzled. why do I get the M1 _inbetween_ m1 and m2?01:03
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MinatakuDifferent sorting model01:04
MinatakuPOSIX C sorts by ASCII code value01:04
MinatakuWhich is why you get "m1 m2 M1"01:04
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MinatakuThe sorting in POSIX C locale is case sensitive01:04
roadfishthis is a case insentive search which should only happen if I use "--ignore-case"01:04
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MinatakuYour system may not be using POSIX C sort order01:05
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roadfish(I mean case sensitive)01:05
roadfishok, so maybe my locale is messed up01:05
MinatakuIn which case, the default behavior may be dictated by the selected locale01:05
MinatakuEither the global locale or a sort order override01:05
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Daisuke_Idothank you Minataku, i was treading on thin "i dunno what i'm talking about" ice01:06
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: lol01:06
roadfishhow do I figure out my locale?01:06
MinatakuYeah, it's more than likely his selected locale or an override, it's probably gonna be in the environment variables01:06
roadfishecho $LOCALE ??? shows nothing01:07
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MinatakuOr not01:07
roadfishnor does this:  set | grep -i locale01:07
MinatakuYeah, I don't have it here either01:07
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roadfishMinataku: what order do you get? m1 m2 M1?01:07
roadfishis there a comamnd to list my environment variables?01:08
MinatakuLemme set up a quick test01:08
MinatakuI'll use ls and some empty files01:08
MinatakuI get case sensitive reverse01:09
MinatakuM1 M2 m1 m201:09
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roadfishdoes "set" dump all the environment variables? the only thing that seems close is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8"01:11
MinatakuYeah, I lack that too, I remember setting the locale when I installed01:11
MinatakuI picked either C or en_US01:11
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roadfishok, the sort man page says that I should set "LC_ALL=C"01:15
roadfishnope, this still messes up:01:15
roadfish  LC_ALL=C;python -c "print 'm1\nm2\nM1'" | sort01:16
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roadfishok, I need to do this: LC_ALL=C ; export LC_ALL01:16
roadfishgood, now I've got things working ... yay!01:16
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pisqcan one run a vaccum to clean the inside PC box, and what about static electricity?01:23
nate_i use a vaccume to clean my laptop01:23
pisqok. with it off?01:23
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lucahi everyone01:24
nate_its usual on, i just run it over the keyboard, and vents01:24
lucauhm anybody tried to install strigi svn recently?01:24
nate_but best bet would be01:24
nate_get a can of compressed air01:24
pisqok, thank you.01:24
nate_take the best outside01:24
nate_and blast the dusty areas01:24
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nate_that way works better01:25
pisqok, thank you.01:25
HumpBackHello all01:25
nate_hello01:25
HumpBackWhere is the proper place to ask questions about: http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1/01:25
pisqyou've been a great help.01:25
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nate_anyone know how i can remove the boxs that pop up when you mouse over tabs in the taskbar01:25
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kalorin`uh01:28
kalorin`ok so from X, how can I tell what version of kubuntu I'm running?01:28
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kalorin`I did an upgrade over night and it crashed part way through, I was on 6.10 now I _THINK_ I'm at 7.0401:29
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kalorin`anyone?01:30
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adaptrkalorin` if it crashed halfway through, chances are you're running half of either01:31
geniipisq I recommend vacuuming over compressed air due to compressed air makes a big could of dust plus can force little pieces of crap into surfacemount leads where its hard to pry out.01:31
kalorin`adaptr: cool01:31
kalorin`I'm running 7.10!01:31
kalorin`or 6.04?01:31
kalorin`6.14!01:32
adaptrjust restart the upgrade01:32
kalorin`so drop to a command line and do an apt-get dist upgrade?01:32
adaptrsudo update-manager -c01:32
adaptror that, yeah01:32
kalorin`yeah cause I have the ati drivers installed from ati01:32
kalorin`thinking that's safer and likely why it crashed01:32
kalorin`well this shouldn't take long it was to the point where it was going to remove packages it didn't need anyway01:32
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kalorin`genil: compressed air is SO much more fun though: )01:33
geniikalorin It's also wrecked some mb on me01:33
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kalorin`yeah01:34
Dhraakellianwhen I try to run glxgears, it gives me the following error:01:34
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DhraakellianXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".01:34
DhraakellianError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual01:34
kalorin`ok so apt-get dist-upgrade shows 0 packages upgraded and 0 to remove01:34
Dhraakellianglx is listed in my xorg.conf01:35
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nate_wheni run glx i get01:35
nate_18408 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3681.582 FPS01:35
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kalorin`ah ha01:35
kalorin`ati drivers were knocked out01:36
Dhraakellianhow might I fix this?01:36
kalorin`time to set that all up again01:36
kalorin`otehrwise I think it crashed after it'd finished up with most stuff01:36
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Dhraakellianso that I can get glxgears (and, more importantly, nexiuz) running?01:36
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nate_so who is the sound master here, cause its pissing me off and i dont wanna go back to M$01:36
nate_what is nexiuz01:36
Dhraakelliannvidia geforce2 set to use proprietary nvidia drivers01:36
Dhraakelliannate_: f/oss FPS game01:36
Dhraakelliandescended from quake01:37
TheDebuggernate_: What's happening?01:37
Dhraakellianhttp://nexuiz.com/01:37
nate_well i have no sound at all, and ive spent around 10hrs googling look for a solution from acpi off and custom DSTS01:37
TheDebuggernate_: What is your sound card?01:38
Dhraakellianhrm...01:38
nate_the horrible, intel hda01:38
TheDebuggerOMG :(01:38
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nate_do i have anyother options of getting sound at all, like a usb sound card, or pmcia soundcard? cause everything else is work %100, just thing :( but i read some people DID get it working, but they never say how, so i asume they are full of it01:39
imaginenate_: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto01:39
crimsunnate_: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.01:39
imaginenate_: basically try this commandline: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto01:40
Dhraakellianand ever since I tried backing up my xorg.conf and using the xorg.conf from my previous gentoo installation, the Display config GUI isn't working01:40
imagineif you can get sound working, that howto is for you01:40
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Dhraakellianhuh...01:40
Dhraakellianokay, nm that last bit...01:40
crimsunimagine: doesn't make any sense to suggest that procedure until we've read his alsa-info.sh output.01:40
acemoFor packages that use the X Window System, `configure' can usually find the X include and library files automatically, but if it doesn't, you can use the `configure' options `--x-includes=DIR' and `--x-libraries=DIR' to specify their locations. where in kubuntu would this folder be?01:41
imaginecrimsun: well he is running hda_intel.. and so did I on a satellite A100 and it solved it.. so why doesn't it make sense?01:41
nate_do all that in one go?01:41
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DhraakellianGraphics card: NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic)01:41
crimsunnate_: just go to the web site I gave you.01:41
imagine........01:41
DhraakellianDriver: nvidia01:41
imaginenate_: yes01:41
crimsunimagine: because there are lots of different codecs driving HDA.01:41
crimsunimagine: I'd know.  I'm the ALSA maintainer.01:41
imaginecrimsun: I don't doubt you don't have the skills01:42
imagineI'm just saying a simple commandline to check it out.. is quicker than reading a whole website.. but you do it the way you want..01:42
nate_ok ill do the command line hang on01:42
crimsunimagine: we write the drivers.  It makes sense to do it "our" way.01:42
imaginecrimsun: read above01:43
crimsunimagine: do you want the short or the long version of why model=auto is insufficient?01:43
nate_sage:01:43
nate_  kill pid ...              Send SIGTERM to every process listed.01:43
nate_  kill signal pid ...       Send a signal to every process listed.01:43
nate_  kill -s signal pid ...    Send a signal to every process listed.01:43
nate_  kill -l                   List all signal names.01:43
nate_  kill -L                   List all signal names in a nice table.01:43
nate_  kill -l signal            Convert between signal numbers and names.01:43
nate_nate@natious:~$01:43
Dhraakelliancalc paste01:43
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Dhraakellian~paste01:44
Dhraakellianor whatever the bot command is in here01:44
crimsunnate_: please use http://pastebin.ca instead of spamming this channel.01:44
imaginecrimsun: like I said earlier... you do it the way you want.. I doon't have the skills to talk about it.. so you are all go01:44
nate_sorry, but thats all that came up01:45
acemoin wich folder are the x library files on kubuntu?01:45
imagine /etc/Xorg?01:45
crimsunacemo: they're not installed by default.  Install libx11-dev for that.01:45
acemocrimsun: thanks01:45
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nate_and this is the script you wanted http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/scripts/output.txt01:46
crimsunnate_: no, I want you to download, save, and execute alsa-info.sh.01:46
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crimsunnate_: then tell me the URL that it gives you.01:46
DhraakellianSection "Module"01:46
Dhraakellian  load "glx"01:46
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Dhraakellianhmm01:46
nate_oh ok hang on01:47
acemochecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!01:48
acemoafter installing libx11-dev that is01:48
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crimsunacemo: check config.log for what configure is barfing on01:48
nate_ok i saved the script to my desktop but i dont know how to run it01:48
crimsunnate_: open a Konsole, then:  bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh01:48
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nate_http://pastebin.ca/49204001:49
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acemoX_EXTRA_LIBS='' X_INCLUDES='' X_LDFLAGS='' X_PRE_LIBS='' X_RPATH=''01:49
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acemook, that explains it cant find em.. where should i be able to find them?01:50
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froggiehi i am on kubuntu and i am trying to install my printer, hp deskjet 3320, all goes very fine, but just before it is actually going to install the driver it is telling me: you font have permission. how can i log in as root in this graphical environment to perform this task? cause i wouldn't know how to do this in a terminal :)01:50
froggiefont = don't01:50
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acemofroggie use kdesu01:51
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crimsunnate_: you need model=laptop-eapd01:52
froggiehm, looking where i will find kdesu, i think i know, ty01:52
nate_what is that01:52
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Dhraakellianhow would I fix the 'Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".' problem when running glxgears?01:52
acemofroggie: open konsole, type kdesu *youre program name*01:52
crimsunnate_: rerun the command that imagine gave you, but instead of typing model=auto, use model=laptop-eapd01:52
nate_so in konsole just type sudo model=laptop-eapd01:53
nate_or the hole big thing01:53
crimsunnate_: the whole big thing, but replace the model appropriately01:53
Dhraakellianacemo: if he's opening konsole anyway, why not just use sudo?01:53
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froggietrying01:54
nate_so this sudo kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd01:54
acemoDhraakelian: idk.. never used kdesu anyways01:54
Dhraakellianhehheh01:54
crimsunnate_: correct.01:54
nate_ok here it goes01:54
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baudthiefanything like "flashget" for linux? Ie: anything that support resuming and downloading in multiple "chunks" simultaneously01:55
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nate_FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.01:55
nate_nate@natious:~$01:55
nate_:(01:55
Dhraakellianbaudthief: try kget, perhaps?  wget can be nice if you're using the commandline01:56
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crimsunlaptop-eapd|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base-fix01:56
crimsunerr01:56
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crimsunnate_: echo options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base-fix01:56
nate_nate@natious:~$  echo options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base-fix01:57
nate_options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd01:57
nate_nate@natious:~$01:57
crimsunnate_: good, now reboot.01:57
nate_ok ill brb01:58
froggiewhat is the program name for the 'add printer wizard' ? (for kdesu *program name*)01:58
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froggieor system settings, i dont know01:59
Dhraakellianfroggie: isn't there an "Administrator Mode" button for that kcontrol module?01:59
froggiei'll check01:59
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froggiecould be but if so i miised it :) thnx for tip02:00
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acemo ./configure --x-includes=DIR --x-libraries=DIR  wich two directories should this be?02:00
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nate_ok im back, now what02:03
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froggieYep, admin mode is available in System settings -> add printer02:05
crimsunnate_: now, aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav02:05
froggiecool02:05
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wolferinedoes subversion have a server and client portion?02:06
nate_nate@natious:~$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav02:06
nate_Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono02:06
nate_i didnt hear anything tho02:06
Dhraakelliannow... how to get glx stuff working...02:06
imaginenate_: alsamixer has maybe set the volume to 002:07
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nate_master is on 100 PCM is on 100 IEC958 is on 00 and i cant change that one02:08
imaginecrimsun knows, I don't02:08
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nate_any ideas?02:10
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crimsunnate_: pastebin amixer02:11
nate_great paste bin is borked02:13
nate_ill pm it too you02:13
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crimsunnate_: no, use another pastebin02:14
crimsunthere are literally hundreds of pastebins.  Just choose one.02:15
imaginepastebin.ca works fine02:15
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acemo ./configure --x-includes=DIR --x-libraries=DIR wich 2 folders should this be? i already installed libx11-dev but still ./configure gives me this error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!02:17
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Daisuke_Idoacemo: xorg-dev02:18
khirrhow can i install beryl in my kubuntu feisty?02:18
Skrot-!beryl02:18
nate_http://pastebin.ca/49208402:18
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:18
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acemoDaisuke_Ido: thanks02:19
Daisuke_Idoyou're welcome02:19
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nate_http://pastebin.ca/49208402:20
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crimsunnate_: you need to mute 'IEC958' and 'Line-In'02:20
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nate_how do do that, with alsamixer?02:21
crimsunyou can use any mixer app02:21
BluesKajdamm grub doesn't recognize the partition type...anyway of changing it to get grub to work (error17) ?02:22
nate_i dont know what i have, its a bare os, so i havnt downloaded anything yet02:22
nate_kmix?02:22
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nate_i dont know how to mute them02:24
BluesKajnate type alsamixer in the terminal and unmute the IEC958P02:24
crimsunyou mean mute.02:25
crimsunit's currently unmuted.02:25
carutsumute what?02:25
crimsuncarutsu: not talking to you.02:25
BluesKajno type M to unmute so you have 00 in the block02:25
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BluesKajM togles mute/unmute02:26
carutsucrimsun: =_= i knew, i just were asking in case you were telling something about muting konqueror, i hate sounds in webbrowsers02:26
crimsunBluesKaj: I don't think you're following.  It's currently unmuted.  He does not want to unmute an already-unmuted mixer control.  :-)02:26
nate_in aslamixer IEC958 is off02:26
crimsunnate_: good.02:26
crimsunnate_: now change Line-In02:26
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nate_its on L R with capture underneate and all in red02:27
nate_it wont let me do anything to it02:27
crimsunnate_: if this doesn't work, we'll have you pull alsa-{kernel,driver} hg02:27
nate_what do i press to turn line in off02:28
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crimsunthat's in the capture perspective  (F4)02:28
crimsunyou can also use amixer set 'Line-In' nocap02:29
carutsuwell now that you seem to know about alsa... (i haven't been able to solve this) when i log in my sound is only on the right speaker and the left is totally muted i can fixe it with alsamixer, however i have to do it every time i log in, does anyone know a solution?02:29
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crimsuncarutsu: filed a bug in kmix?  (It's not an ALSA bug.)02:29
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carutsucrimsun: a kmix bug? mmm, I'll try to file a bug then, however how can you be sure is not alsa? (just to add to the bug report)02:30
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nate_im gonna have to come back to this i have to go out, dammit02:31
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nate_this is pissing me off so bad lol02:31
nate_thanks for trying to help tho02:31
crimsuncarutsu: because if it works after you use alsamixer, it's not an alsa bug.  alsa bugs don't have to do with state.02:32
hellcattravhi all02:32
carutsucrimsun: ok02:32
carutsucrimsun: thank you02:32
hellcattravany of you good with math, my discrete class is doing a chapter on hamiltion circuits, and I was wondering if there were programs out there02:32
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carutsuhellcattrav: although i'm not sure about hamiltion circuits, have you tried klogic?02:34
carutsu!info kalogic02:34
ubotuPackage kalogic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:34
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carutsu!info klogic02:34
carutsu!info klogic02:35
ubotuklogic: digital circuit editor and simulator for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.63-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 1392 kB02:35
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hellcattravcarutsu: what is it?02:35
carutsu!info klogic|hellcattrav02:36
ubotuhellcattrav: klogic: digital circuit editor and simulator for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.63-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 1392 kB02:36
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hellcattravthanks02:40
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jordo23I don't get it....when AZureus starts, it begins fine, gets to the main window, and the disappears....it is also not in the system tray....any ideas???02:47
crimsunuse the azureus in feisty-proposed02:48
crimsunor edgy-proposed or whatever.02:48
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jordo23crimsun: I am not sure I understand...02:49
jordo23crimsun: It opened fine about an hour ago, and sat in the system tray....now it's like it opens fine, I can see the transfer window for a second, and then gone...02:50
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jordo23Restarted X, and nothing......Azureus starts, the window will flash for a second or two, then disappear...02:53
jordo23It also flashes in the system tray for a second or two as well...02:53
jordo23No crash report or anything..02:54
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LaDyRaZaGaLHi :D02:54
Skrot-jordo23: Try starting it from the console and see what it says02:54
LaDyRaZaGaLhow i install xchat-2.0.10.tar.bz2 ???'02:54
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Skrot-LaDyRaZaGaL: Why don't you just grab it from apt+02:55
Skrot-"sudo apt-get install xchat"02:55
LaDyRaZaGaLthanks :-***02:55
Skrot-no problem02:55
jordo23Does this make any sense, says it's a java error....  http://www.pastebin.ca/49212302:55
Skrot-jordo23: Not enough info I think. May I ask if you've tried KTorrent? It's native to KDE and has a lot of similar functions to azureus02:56
jordo23It was working five minutes ago...02:56
Skrot-Thats java for you :)02:56
jordo23Skrot-: I would prefer to use Ktorrent, but it crashes every 30 min for some reason....02:56
Skrot-uhm, could you do ktorrent --version to check which version you've got?02:57
jordo23Skrot-: 2.102:57
jordo23Skrot-: It runs fine for about 30 minutes then always crashes....02:57
Skrot-If you want, I can hook you up with a apt-source that has more recent builds of it. It's not official, but its pretty stable. I even use it on my server02:58
ps_is there another location for kde to use for autostarting programs except .kde/Autostart and the session thing?02:58
jordo23Skrot-: Would rather use standard stable stuff....02:58
Skrot-okay02:58
cpk1jordo23: they just recently updated it in the repos and it doesnt crash now02:58
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jordo23Skrot-: How can I test if Java is working properly for Azureus?02:59
ps_i just cant find why kmail and synaptic is started everytime i log in :(02:59
Skrot-jordo23: I'm not quite sure, sorry :(02:59
jordo23cpk1: I didn't get an update notice...do I have to manually update the package?02:59
cpk1jordo23: you have ktorrent 2.1.4?02:59
jordo23cpk1: says 2.102:59
Skrot-ps_: KDE remembers which programs you had running when you logged out, and starts them on next login. Maybe thats the reason?02:59
jordo23cpk1: How do I update it?03:00
Skrot-cpk1: 2.1-0ubuntu2 is latest in feisty?03:00
ps_Skrot-: nope, i checked that already. .kde/shared/config/session is empty and in kcontrol under session it says "start with empty session". the programs do not run when logging out as well .... but when login again, they start03:00
Skrot-ps_: okay03:01
cpk1I'm on edgy so I would imagine feisty has at least what i do03:01
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cpk1jordo23: if you want to use azureus it shouldnt be too hard to troubleshoot... try starting azureus from konsole03:02
jordo23cpk1: http://www.pastebin.ca/49212303:02
ircusrhi all03:02
jordo23That's what happens....worked fine ten minutes ago...03:02
cpk1hmm well thats not what I was expecting03:03
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jordo23cpk1: I have no idea.....worked five minutes ago.....I DON'T UNDERSTAND...03:05
jordo23I am also waiting for Ktorrent to crash again :)03:05
cpk1jordo23: did azureus close unexpectedly before this happened? or you lose your network connection for a second?03:05
jordo23cpk1: No....was running flawlessly....I don't get it...03:06
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Skrot-<- 2.2dev03:07
Skrot-Works great :)03:07
Dhraakelliancool03:07
Dhraakellianstill not going to risk it until it at least hits beta03:07
Dhraakelliansome trackers don't like development clients03:08
Dhraakellian!;)03:08
Skrot-I know :>03:08
Skrot-Some trackers don't like ktorrent alltogether :(03:08
jordo23Azureus was outperforming Ktorrent when it was working...03:08
cpk1jordo23: well, you could try deleting .azureus this will wipe all your az config stuff but might let you start it03:08
Dhraakellianand some have had their admins in contact with ktorrent devs and thus have ktorrent unbanned for 2.1.x and higher03:09
Skrot-jordo23: I download and upload in 11MB/s with KTorrent..03:09
Skrot-From 100mbit03:09
Dhraakelliancpk1, jordo23: move/rename instead of deleting03:09
cpk1jordo23: also you could try replacing your azureus2.jar with one from az's sourceforge page03:09
Skrot-Probably mv ~/.azureus ~/.azureus-bak03:09
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jordo23Dhraakellian cpk1:  Renaming .azureus let's the program start again from the config wizard and runs fine now....wierd...03:12
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cpk1jordo23: so there's a temporary workaround =P03:12
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iam4u9dehello03:12
cpk1a newer jar might also fix the problem03:12
donhi03:12
jordo23cpk1: Not familar with that....what about a jar? lol03:13
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ps_can you imagine any reason why kmail is starting when i do call kopete? everytime i execute "kopete", kmail comes up as well x_X03:13
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Dhraakellianjordo23: java archive.  it's how a lot of java programs are packaged03:13
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Dhraakellianoslt03:14
cpk1jordo23: move your current /usr/share/java/Azureus2.jar somewhere and replace it with either the latest stable or latest cvs jar from the azureus sourceforge page03:14
cpk1it *might* fix the problem03:14
jordo23cpk1: will do.....03:15
Dhraakellianalthough, if the settings stuff works, then you could just go with it as-is now03:15
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cpk1yeah, but if it happens again ya know03:16
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jordo23cpk1:  Azureus.2.5.4.jar???03:17
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cpk1I dunno what their newest is =)03:17
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jordo23cpk1:  Azureus2.5.0.4.jar is the current file i believe, do I have to rename it or just move it to that dir?03:19
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jordo23Anyone know if I have to rename the file to Azureus2.jar or just move it and delete the other one?03:21
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nosrednaekimis there any way to easily install fonts through ADEPT? I mean other than mstcorefonts03:23
nosrednaekimis there a font repo?03:23
nosrednaekimSuse had all kinds of cool fonts....03:23
kilrae_you can install fonts with the kde control center, but i'm not aware of any packages03:24
carutsufor the record installing openoffice dictionaries in other language than english, just is like "sudo apt-get openoffice.org-spellcheck-XX" it took me a week to figure out, since the dictionary wizard crashes03:24
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carutsu!font03:24
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer03:24
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carutsu!font|nosrednaekim03:25
ubotunosrednaekim: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer03:25
nosrednaekimthank you!03:25
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michael__is there anyway to completely kill an app03:27
michael__it froze and i killed the pid but its still ther03:27
nosrednaekim"kill -9 <PID>"03:27
nosrednaekimthey need to make a Repo for fonts.... maybe i'll do it. Good little project.03:28
michael__no the pid is gone03:28
michael__the window is still there03:28
michael__it wont go away03:28
nosrednaekimhmmm...03:28
michael__but ican still minimze it etc03:28
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DragnslcrIs there any way to log what command is run when you change a setting in the System Settings?03:29
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nosrednaekimIDK... but what setting are you trying to change?03:30
JucatoDragnslcr: not really sure, but you can probably run "strace systemsettings" in Konsole.03:30
carutsuJack3: try closing it (yep the X button) several times, it'll ask weather to kill it or not, or you might have killed the background process and it has a "monitor"03:30
Jack3ah ok03:30
nosrednaekimJack3: hey... so did you figure out your lack of disc space problem?03:31
Jack3oh, i had to reinstall :\03:31
nosrednaekimJack3: oh...not good.03:31
Jack3yeh, o well03:31
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Jack3frick, that isnt working03:31
Jack3gah fuck you ubuntu03:31
nosrednaekim!language03:32
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:32
soulriderhow can i use the hosts.deny file to block outgoing connections ?03:32
DragnslcrJucato- know offhand if there's a good way to filter out noise like mouse movements?03:32
Jucatoah no. sorry03:32
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nosrednaekimDragnslcr: what setting are you trying to change?03:33
DragnslcrI just want to know how to set the monitor's power off time from a shell03:33
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Dragnslcr(Q3-based games screw it up, so I want to setup a cron job as a workaround)03:33
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NetersLandreausoulrider: if the host is in the hosts.deny file, that host will be denied from any future connections.. is it a persistent connection?03:34
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carutsu!info powertop03:35
ubotuPackage powertop does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:35
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: ahh... yeah.. wondering that myself03:35
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carutsuno powertop?! u_u03:35
nosrednaekimcarutsu: its easy to compile yourself03:35
carutsunosrednaekim: I will :D03:35
nosrednaekimbut it won't work with fiesty03:35
nosrednaekimunless you compiled your own kernel03:36
soulriderNetersLandreau: i just want to block certan websites from my computer03:36
Dragnslcrnosrednaekim- heh, have you had the same problem? I remember the same thing in Windows a few years ago03:36
soulrideroutcomming connections actually03:36
soulriderNetersLandreau: what syntax do i have to use ?03:36
carutsunosrednaekim: you should've said that before, why?03:36
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carutsunosrednaekim: xD T_T,03:36
nosrednaekimbecause you need a tickless kernel, and the 2.6.20 inclueded with 7.04 doesn't have that functionality03:37
NetersLandreauexact syntax soulrider, fuckinggooleit.com ;)03:37
intelikeysoulrider if you have quicktables  quickblock *.*.*.*03:37
carutsunosrednaekim: mmm, right, was added on 2.6.2103:37
carutsu!03:37
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NetersLandreauer fuckinggoogleit.com rather ;)03:38
soulriderintelikey: i dont think i have it, theres just a website i want my computer to be able to contact sometimes, and sometimes not03:38
soulriderNetersLandreau: you know thats rather rude ?03:38
Jucato!language | NetersLandreau03:38
ubotuNetersLandreau: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:38
carutsu!language|NetersLandreau03:38
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NetersLandreauj/k.. i would google the answer tho :)03:38
soulrideri did, but for some reason i get useless links to websites in spanish03:39
pisqnot cool03:39
ddamronanyone know where the linuxmce support irc channel is?03:39
NetersLandreaui saw that site this morning from here and got a laff.. apologize for any hard feelings03:39
carutsusoulrider: what did you look for? I might be able to traslate if nothing is avalible in english03:39
soulridercarutsu: i can read spanish :P03:40
carutsusoulrider: oh, ok03:40
soulriderthanks intelikey03:40
intelikeynp03:40
carutsubut a tickless kernell is only for stand by?03:41
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nosrednaekimcarutsu: so its for evrything03:41
nosrednaekim*no03:41
NetersLandreausoulrider: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man5/hosts.deny.5.html03:41
carutsunosrednaekim: mmm, so this will improve battery life a lot?03:42
nosrednaekimcarutsu: it supposedly will.. I think there was a Phoronix article on it a bit back.03:43
soulriderintelikey: i need to install iptables :P03:43
carutsunosrednaekim: oh, ok, im reading a bit about it, however is like scaling the hz03:43
nosrednaekimno... its not freq. scaling.03:43
NetersLandreausoulrider: what os?03:44
carutsui know, is not per se, but gives the same result, doesnt it?03:44
nosrednaekimit has to do with the kernel method of keeping track of time03:44
nosrednaekimno... it decreases CPU use.03:44
nosrednaekimallowing the CPU to go into higher sleep states03:44
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soulriderNetersLandreau: im running Archlinux03:45
soulrideri have a terrible headache guys, im going to bed03:45
soulriderill be back tomorrow, thanks for the help03:45
carutsunosrednaekim: er, then would you explain me this: http://kerneltrap.org/node/6750 search for "nonintrusive"03:46
soulriderintelikey: guess what, my toehr hard drive died... thats 2 in a month :P03:46
NetersLandreausoulrider: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24779703:46
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soulriderim going, see ya!03:46
intelikeysoulrider oooh yuch,     Q what fs were they using ?03:46
DaSkreechSee ya03:46
Dhraakellianwhen I try to run glxgears, it says, 'Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".'03:47
Dhraakellianhow do I fix this?03:47
nosrednaekimthat is that the CPU "ticks" or wakes up the cpu 1000 times (hz) a second03:47
nosrednaekimnothing to do with processor frequncy scaling.03:47
intelikeyif you say ext3 on both i'll have to say "i told ya so!"03:47
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nosrednaekimDhraakellian: you do not have 3d accel03:50
Dhraakelliannosrednaekim: I could have guessed this03:50
nosrednaekimDhraakellian: what type of graphics card do you have?03:51
Dhraakelliannvidia geforce203:51
Dhraakelliannvidia drivers03:51
Dhraakellianlegacy03:51
nosrednaekimDhraakellian: did you install the nvidia drivers?03:51
Dhraakellianyes03:51
nosrednaekimhow?03:52
nosrednaekimthrough adept?03:52
carutsu see you all03:53
Dhraakelliannosrednaekim: adept_manager, yes03:53
JucatoDhraakellian: did you run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" after installing it?03:53
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Jucatothen check your xorg.conf if it switched to nvidia from nv03:54
Dhraakellian(I had switched from nv to nvidia with the GUI kcontrol module)03:55
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DhraakellianPeripherals > Monitor & Display03:55
Dhraakellianin administrator mode03:55
Jucatohm..03:55
Jucatothen restarted X already?03:55
Dhraakellianquite a number of times03:56
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Dhraakellianand then restoring the kubuntu one when that didn't work like I wanted03:56
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BloodyTuxello03:57
nosrednaekim'lo03:57
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intelikeyhow many nvidia cards are "NOT" supported ?03:58
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__mikemintelikey, none03:58
BloodyTuxughhh i'm sitting here waiting for it to be nine so i can mess around with the free wap i just got on my phone :P03:58
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intelikey__mikem wrong answer03:58
BloodyTuxyea03:58
doniehehe03:58
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BloodyTuxmost nvidia are supported03:58
__mikemMost nvidia cards are not only supported but run beautifully03:59
intelikey__mikem mine's not.   just wondering how many weren't03:59
nosrednaekimBloodyTux: its already nine... what's your problem?03:59
nosrednaekimlol03:59
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BloodyTux8:5903:59
nosrednaekim9:59 I must insist03:59
BloodyTuxi just set up a proxy and have free wap on my phone and parents03:59
BloodyTuxyes, i in central timezone not whatever03:59
_6StringKng_!ATI03:59
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:59
nosrednaekimgaga...I know04:00
BloodyTux9:00!!!!04:00
nosrednaekim10:00!04:00
BloodyTuxit works!!!!04:00
BloodyTuxBOOYA!04:00
BloodyTuxwhat can i do on wap???04:00
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nosrednaekimwhat is wap?04:01
BloodyTuxinternet for phones04:01
nosrednaekimah.04:01
nosrednaekimdoes it have something to do with Linux?04:01
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intelikeysorry.  power reset.04:01
BloodyTuxno... but i'm on linux.com on it :)04:02
BloodyTuxthat so counts04:02
nosrednaekimintelikey: why would you EVER need to reboot Linux?04:02
nosrednaekim;)04:02
BloodyTuxlol04:02
nosrednaekimBloodyTux: yep!04:02
intelikeynosrednaekim i give up,  why ?04:02
nosrednaekimintelikey: well.. why did you?04:02
BloodyTuxhmmm ok so i went to linux.com now what???04:03
nosrednaekimBloodyTux: tuxmachines.com04:03
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intelikeynosrednaekim what part of  "power reset" do you not understand ?04:03
kpshubertHowdy all. I have what may seem like a silly question.04:03
nosrednaekimoh you mean..a power surge/failure?04:03
BloodyTuxnothing is silly here04:03
intelikeyyes04:03
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BloodyTuxexcept pie on a computer in the middle of texas while its running windows04:04
BloodyTuxthats silly04:04
nosrednaekimwhich is really just stupid04:04
BloodyTuxeveryone knows only linux can be in the middle of texas with pie on it04:04
BloodyTuxduh04:04
kpshubertWell, I hate to say it, but a this very moment I am here in Arkansas running not just Windoze but Windoze ME.04:04
BloodyTuxAHHHHH04:04
BloodyTux#windows04:04
BloodyTuxGO AWAY :(04:04
BloodyTuxsorry....04:05
kpshubertIt really sucketh!04:05
__mikemPCs are like air conditioners, if you open windows, they don't work.04:05
nosrednaekimhaha..04:05
BloodyTuxi don't like doze, but i am forced to use it cause linux dun work!!! MY PC SUXORZ04:05
ardchoillehaha04:05
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nosrednaekimkpshubert: so whats your problem?04:05
ardchoilleI use Linux. If I can't use Linux, I find another computer.. Windows is not an option.04:05
kpshubert...but the reason I'm running it is that my Linux (I was running Debian but am now trying to set up Kubuntu) is having network card issues.04:05
intelikeydid i drop in at bash M$ hour?   or are you guys just off topic ?04:06
BloodyTuxyep04:06
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__mikemlol04:06
BloodyTuxand yep04:06
scott__I am using ubuntu 7.04 how do I download KDE Desktop?04:06
ardchoilleintelikey: Sorry, was ot for a bit.04:06
__mikemapt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:06
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DhraakellianJucato: nope04:06
BloodyTuxapt install kubuntu-desktop04:06
BloodyTuxor sumtin like that04:06
ardchoillesudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:07
nosrednaekimkpshubert: ok.. what exctly is wrong?04:07
kpshubertThe problem appears to be that the nic I am using is trying to use the same (I think i/o) address as some other component--or that is what I guess since the address seems to be being reserved prior to the nic being able to grab it.04:08
scott__thanks for the help04:08
kpshubertThis only seems to have started happening with newer kernels.04:08
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kpshubertI think it may be that some component is now being detected that was not in prior kernel versions.04:09
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nosrednaekimkpshubert: yeah.. I heard that problem b4.04:09
kpshubertbrb04:09
intelikeykpshubert you can install an older kernel if you need too,   might help trubble shoot the thing at least.04:10
ardchoillekpshubert: When you installed kubuntu, did you use "localhost" in the "desktop" entry during install?04:10
ardchoilleI ask because I had problems when I did that.04:10
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_6StringKng_how do I mount a windows partition, last time I used kubuntu it mounted them automatically04:12
kpshubertI am back04:12
intelikey!ntfs04:12
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:12
BluesKajso how is ktorrent behaving in feisty these days...still crashprone ?04:12
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kpshubertardchoille: I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. I did do a desktop install using Fiesty.04:13
kpshubertintelikey: How would I install another kernel? Is there one available without having to get on the 'net?04:14
ardchoillekpshubert: that's ok, looking back at your issue it's not what I thought.04:14
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intelikeykpshubert you'd need to dl one of the kernels in the repos  and use  dpkg -i on it04:15
DhraakellianBluesKaj: I don't think I was having any problems with 2.1, but I still went ahead and got the 2.1.4 debs from the ktorrent.org forums04:15
kpshubertintelikey: repos?04:15
Dhraakellianhrm...04:15
Dhraakellianpageup doesn't work in bash04:15
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intelikeykpshubert yes the 2.6 kernels are listed as  linux-image* and the 2.4's as  kernel*04:16
intelikey!packages04:16
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!04:16
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BluesKajDhraakellian: and how is the newer version working..ok ?04:16
intelikeykpshubert http://packages.ubuntu.com04:16
kpshubertintelikey: I gotcha... repository?04:16
DhraakellianBluesKaj: haven't had a problem with it yet04:16
intelikeyyes04:16
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BluesKajok good, did you uninstall the old version first ?04:17
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Dhraakelliandon't think so04:17
kpshubertintelikey: Okay... next question, is there a package (like nicutils-pci) that I might be able to use to troubleshoot the issue?04:17
BluesKajIC04:17
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jontec!chroot04:18
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box04:18
DhraakellianI just used the package management entry in the konqueror context menu04:18
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intelikey!find nicutils04:18
ubotuPackage/file nicutils does not exist in feisty04:18
kpshubert:-(04:18
Dhraakelliannetsplit!04:18
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kpshubertintelikey: will the 'bot respond to anyone?04:19
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DaSkreechhmm04:19
DaSkreechGuess that's one advantage of chatzilla04:19
DaSkreechno netsplit04:19
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jordo23My Ktorrent keeps crashing about every half an hour and it just happened again.....anyone know about any issues with Ktorrent in Feisty?04:19
intelikeykpshubert yes it will.  and you can /msg ubotu your Q.    doesn't seem to be any nicutils.    but pciutils   and lshw      along with the dmesg output should help to at least see what is going on.04:20
jordo23I still have the backtrace open if helpful...04:20
raymondi cant get dvd playback in kaffeine?04:20
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Dhraakellian!dvd04:20
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs04:20
ardchoille!libdvdcss04:20
nzkWhy is Ubuntu so ungodly slow for me. I have an EIGHT load average just running firefox, terminal, xchat, and nautilus04:21
raymondi have libdvdcss04:21
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nzkon a 2 years old high-end-at-the-time computer04:21
raymond i get a demux error for xine04:21
kpshubertintelikey: From what I could see--as I said--the problem is that the tuilp driver was unable to get an address that it thought it needed for IO on the card I'm using.04:21
DaSkreechnzk: firefox there is your problem04:21
ardchoillegnome ;)04:21
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intelikeykpshubert let me look around a minute i'll get back to you on that.04:22
nzkHow is firefox the problem?04:22
bUzz-iNvideo drivers for , Nvidia 880004:22
nzkI have 4 tabs open04:22
ardchoillenzk: I always had laggyness with gnome, that went away when I switched to kubuntu04:22
DaSkreechardchoille: shhhh don't disenfranchise too quickly04:22
ardchoilleDaSkreech: lol04:22
nzkardchoille, how do you know I use gnome04:22
nzkand isnt kde ugly/slow from what i hear04:22
ardchoillenzk: nautilus04:22
DaSkreechnzk: Sure it is04:22
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DaSkreechtry it and prove it for yourself04:23
Dhraakelliannzk: ugliness is in the eye of the beholder04:23
kpshubertThank you intelikey04:23
Dhraakelliannzk: and be aware that you're saying this in #kubuntu04:23
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Dhraakellian!;)04:23
ardchoillenzk: gnome is nice, but when I switched my 11 boxes to kubuntu, I noticed a large drop in system lag04:23
nzkOhhh04:24
nzkI was running F@H all along04:24
nzknow its fine, load average like 0.0504:24
Dhraakellianso we're probably biased in here, on average04:24
Dhraakellianhehheh04:24
=== Dhraakellian emerge -uavt world
savetheWorldits not a bias if its true... :-)04:24
Dhraakellianoh, wait, wrong distro04:24
DaSkreechnzk: just run it on the PS3 :)04:25
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DaSkreechnot going to do much else with it anyway :)04:25
nzkI put my PS3 in my mom's closet04:25
nzkstupid parents gave me one for xmas04:25
ardchoillelol04:25
intelikeykpshubert ok from what i'm seeing you may want to check in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   it is possable the something in there need removed or added.04:25
DaSkreechnzk: Send it to me :)04:25
nzkI didn't want to hurt their feelings04:25
DaSkreechI'll pay for shipping04:25
nzkDaSkreech, its not worth the effort to move it04:25
DaSkreechI'll pay you 10 bucks :)04:26
nzkLike I put it in my moms closet when friends are over (well all hate ps3) so i dont look like a hypocrite04:26
DaSkreechthat's like a huge number of Cds to burn Ubuntu :)04:26
nzknow i just dont feel like getting it back04:26
intelikeykpshubert if you can tell from dmesg   and or /var/log/messages   what is hogging the resource you might be able to blacklist it.04:26
raymond!kaffeine04:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:26
raymond!xine04:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:27
kpshubertThank you intelikey I will poke at that and if I am unable to make things work, I may be back :-P04:27
DaSkreechnzk: Hmm well if it;s an embarresment then I'd be doing you a favour :)04:27
raymond!libdvdcss04:27
intelikeyok04:27
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs04:27
ardchoilleraymond: Trouble playing dvd's?04:28
nzkDaSkreech, I don't want to make my parents feel bad04:28
intelikeykpshubert also have a look at the kernel config        grep -ie 'tulip' /boot/*04:28
raymondyeah04:28
kpshubertOkay, all have a good evening, thanks again intelikey. I must leave if I am going to play with Kubuntu for now :-(04:28
DaSkreechand making it dance wit the black dress and tux in the closet doesn't accomplish that?04:29
raymondardchoille: every time i try to get kaffeine to play a dvd i get an error saying xine couldnt find demux for dvd:///dev/scd004:29
ardchoilleraymond: Here's how I got dvd playing in xine: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 xine libxine-extracodecs    then install libdvdcss2 (if you haven't already) and it works here.04:29
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kpshubertWill to intelikey. Thanks again!04:29
intelikeynp  and good luck04:30
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ardchoilleraymond: /dev/scd0 ?  shouldn't that be /dev/sd0 ?04:30
raymondshows up as scd0 in /dev04:30
ardchoilleok04:31
intelikeyscd0 is scsi cdrom one04:31
raymondhmm i'll try that after uninstalling them all04:31
ardchoilleintelikey: Ah, ok04:31
ardchoilleraymond: libdvdread3 seemed to be the key with my setup04:32
raymondi got that now (i didnt before04:32
intelikeyis that the one that you have to run the script after you install it ?04:33
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raymondnever had to before04:33
marccollinhi04:33
ardchoilleintelikey: to get libdvdcss2, yes04:33
ardchoilleBut he already has libdvdcss2, so..04:33
marccollinduring install, is there a way to bypass "configuring network interface" ? after 10 minutes... that seem blocked...04:33
intelikeyyeah  libdvdcss   not  libdvdread   sorry.04:34
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draikHow do I change the screen resolution on my login screen?04:34
Dhraakelliananother drake?04:35
ardchoilledraik: I added 'vga=791' (without quotes) to the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst and that did it for me.04:35
Dhraakellianphonetically, at least04:35
DaSkreechSo Shuttleworthian04:36
draikardchoille: What does 791 do? I want to keep my nVidia drivers the way they are and have a resolution of 1280x102404:36
intelikeyardchoille console login ?04:36
ardchoilledraik: That's exactly what it does04:36
ardchoilleintelikey: It chaanges the console loging res too04:36
draikOk04:37
ardchoilledraik: But I believe 791 is for 1024x768 res04:37
intelikeyi didn't know that kdm used framebuffering...04:37
draikSo.... 1280x1024 would be...?04:37
ardchoilleintelikey: yep04:37
ardchoilledraik: Not sure, but I bet google knows04:37
draikWhat am I looking for?04:37
intelikeydraik 798   i think04:38
ardchoilleintelikey: What is that called anyway? vgares?04:38
khirri've installed compiz, and my computer stoped...some reason for that?04:38
ardchoilleframeres? What should he google?04:38
intelikeykernel frame buffer rez04:38
ardchoilleThat's it04:38
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tindraik: if you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you can change the default X screen dimensions04:39
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DaSkreechkhirr: The console hired an assassin to take out all things that take focus away from black and white glory!!04:39
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tinfind the Display subsection, rearrange the Modes line to put your preferred size first04:40
c00kiehi all04:40
donyo04:40
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tinyou'll need sudo to save changes to the file04:41
intelikeytin   yeah that's what i'm saying.   the kernel frame buffering "shouldn't" affect the "login" screen.     unless you have console login04:41
c00kiei just got my ubuntu cd today, and i was wondering if i could uninstall kubuntu to make space for ubuntu04:41
intelikeyor possably if your x is using fb driver04:41
tinintelikey: i've never played with kernel framebuffer, but that should effect the kubuntu progress bar thingy before X starts04:41
DaSkreechDoes anyone have problems with resizing Vista hard drives?04:41
ardchoilleintelikey: I could be wrong about it changing the login res, since I typically edit menu.lst and xorg all before ever starting x04:42
donutman25hi my internet in kubuntu only works for about 30 seconds and then stops. Can someone help me please?04:42
tinmaybe X uses the framebuffer size...?04:42
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intelikeywell.   i'll let yall sort that out.   i'm console without X anyway.04:42
tinbefore i changed xorg.conf, KDM uses 1024x768, which may be the default fb size04:42
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c00kiewould that be possible for me to do the above?04:42
ardchoilledonutman25: You got a screensaver on your NIC? Cool04:42
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tini can't recall what the first mode in xorg.conf was though...04:43
DaSkreechdonutman25: how are you connecting?04:43
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donutman25cable modem with router04:43
intelikeytin   first mode is 640x48004:43
BluesKajDaSkreech:  Vista supposedly has partioning resizing capablities from within the OS04:43
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c00kiei'll brb04:43
DaSkreechBluesKaj: I know04:44
tinthen X may borrow the fb size if it's bigger than the config's first one04:44
DaSkreechI just want to know if the CD can do it04:44
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donutman25DaSkreech: cable modem with wired router04:44
tinc00kie: do you realize that you can install ubuntu WITH kubuntu...?04:45
intelikeytin  oh wait.   first in the list you mean.    "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"  <<< like that ?04:45
DaSkreechcan You ping 194.9.77.5 ?04:45
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tinis that the default list? and yes04:45
intelikeyyeah04:45
draiktin: I don't want to edit the XORG.CONF file. I have things setup how I need them now for Beryl. Besides, it's just the screen resolution for my login.04:45
|Assassin`|can someone help me a little to get started :)04:46
tindraik: i know. your desktop size gets changed upon login, when KDE reads your prefs04:46
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|Assassin`|i was working with ubuntu a little and decided to switch over to kubuntu04:46
tinbut when KDM first starts, it only has the xorg.conf info to look at04:46
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|Assassin`|i like it better04:46
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tinif you make X's default match your preferred size....04:47
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tinall you have to do is change the order of the possible modes04:47
_6StringKng_when I go to play mp3 files in amarok, it ask me to install mp3 support but then locks up04:47
|Assassin`|lol04:47
tinX will use the first in the list unless told otherwise04:47
intelikey:)04:47
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tinand it's not told otherwise until AFTER you log in04:47
bernierhi, I instaled KDE4 on feisty, but now, how   do I get it   toreplace  kde3 ..?04:47
DonMCNCan somebody explain to me how to install the newest Java either by command prompt or by something else.04:47
ardchoille!java04:48
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.04:48
donutman25DaSkreech: no i cant04:48
intelikeyi was just trying to help him get started....04:48
DaSkreechbernier: Wha?04:48
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|Assassin`|how can i update my video driver for my integrated radeon xpress 200 :) it used to run really good04:48
intelikey|Assassin`| the ati driver howto on the wiki ?04:48
DaSkreechdonutman25: can you ping your gateway?04:49
intelikey!ati | |Assassin`|04:49
ubotu|Assassin`|: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:49
|Assassin`|i had a tweaked driver for it but i wanna know how to through the terminal04:49
|Assassin`|ok04:49
|Assassin`|i'll try it04:49
|Assassin`|:)04:49
donutman25DaSkreech: no i cant04:49
DaSkreechdonutman25: Seriously?04:49
DaSkreechcan you ping your IP address ?04:49
donutman25DaSkreech: cant do that either04:50
bernierI installed KDE4 on feisty, but now, how do I get it to replace kde3 ..?04:50
jaevelcan someone help me fix my nvidia driver? i tried to install the nvidia-glx-new driver and it failed, i remove the driver and re-installed nvidia-glx and it will not work?04:50
intelikeyhey doode if it like tweeks your mellon  you can come back and ask again ya know.04:50
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DaSkreechbernier: why would you want to?04:50
DaSkreechdonutman25: So the problem is your box then04:50
DaSkreechYou have a ip address?04:51
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bernierDaSkreech to try it04:51
donutman25DaSkreech: yes i do04:51
DonMCNCan somebody explain to me how to install the newest Java by command prompt?04:52
DaSkreechbernier: ... Hmm I would say the easiest way to try it is the KDE4 Live cd04:52
DaSkreech!java04:52
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.04:52
DaSkreechdonutman25: can you ping localhost?04:52
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Jucatobernier: the instructions on how to properly use KDE 4 is in the kubuntu.org announcement page. you *do not* replace KDE 304:52
intelikeyjaevel do you have a kernel module in use that is in the way of the "reinstalled" one ?    may require a restart for that.   unless you are comfi with for Q in `lsmod | cut -d' ' -f1` ;do modprobe -r $Q ;done          or the like....04:53
_6StringKng_could someone help me with amarok, last few times I had Kubuntu installed it worked great, now when It asks to install mp3 support it locks up04:53
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DaSkreechnzk: You could at least run F@H and cre cancer :)04:53
bernierDaSkreech I just don't know what to do after running the "export" commands04:54
WillLuongohow can I see a list of where my physical harddrives are so I can mount them?04:54
DaSkreech!kde404:54
ubotuFor information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org04:54
JucatoWillLuongo: you can use the Disks and Filesystem module in System Settings -> Advanced tab04:54
DaSkreechJucato: ping. any docs on running a pure KDE4 in kubuntu?04:54
intelikeyWillLuongo sudo fdisk -l04:54
GWillakerswillLuongo: fdisk -l04:54
jaevelintelikey, yeah, thats a little over my head... i have reboot a couple of times already04:54
_6StringKng_!amarok04:55
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok04:55
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JucatoDaSkreech: pure KDE 4? no. just how to launch KDE 4 apps or start a full KDE 4 session04:55
intelikeyjaevel hmmm   then it shouldn't be that.04:55
DaSkreechJucato: Full KDE session how do you do that?04:55
JucatoDaSkreech: check in kubuntu.org04:55
Jucatoannouncement for KDE 4 alpha packages04:55
_6StringKng_anyone?04:56
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Jucato_6StringKng_: just manuall install libxine-extracodecs and you'll be ok04:56
DaSkreechbernier: there you go04:56
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JucatoDaSkreech: I already told him that a while ago04:56
DaSkreechah Missed that04:56
intelikeyjaevel don't have an old xorg.conf*  that perdates the upgrade do you ?04:56
kpshubertOkay, I am back and with another question (still relating to the problem I am having with my nic).04:56
_6StringKng_link to tutorial possibly, lol?04:57
jaevelintelikey, i started with an error like it didnt like the kernel module and the driver module versions, said kernel 1.0.7184 and X module 1.0-963104:57
Jucato_6StringKng_: um.. just launch Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager, search for "libxine-extracodecs" and install it04:57
jaevelintelikey, not that i know of, i think my backup is the original file made during install04:57
_6StringKng_k, thanks04:58
intelikeyjaevel ok then it is still the kernel module, i'm thinking  you'll have to rebuild the module.04:58
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intelikeykpshubert and ?04:58
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kpshubertCan anyone tell me if there is either: a) a way to get a comprehensive list of what i/o ports are used where or b) a way to find out what a specific i/o port address is being used for?04:58
jaevelintelikey, cant i just remove it all and re-install it?04:58
_6StringKng_k, well in mandriva I think there was an option to change the login screen like how you change thge splash screen, know how to do it in Kubuntu?04:59
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WillLuongoWhen I use 'mount device path' is it permanent?04:59
intelikeyjaevel yeah.   are you using a binarry package ?04:59
donutman25DaSkreech: yes i  can ping my local host04:59
Jucato_6StringKng_: you have to install the package "kdmtheme"04:59
_6StringKng_k04:59
jaevelintelikey, i believe so.. let me look at whats intalled....04:59
DaSkreechdonutman25: that's strange do you have the card enabled?04:59
donutman25yes i  do05:00
kpshubertWillLuongo: it should not persist... if you want thing automounted, you should add them to fstab.05:00
|Assassin`|how do i get flashplayer to work?05:00
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kpshubertWillLuongo: and if you want it to "go away" you should be able to use umount.05:00
donutman25DaSkreech: Yes i do05:00
DaSkreech...05:00
DaSkreechhmm05:00
j__anyone know how emerald themer work05:01
DaSkreech!networking05:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:01
DaSkreech!network05:01
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:01
c00kietin, is there any way to make ubuntu replace kubuntu?05:01
c00kiesince i don't have space to spare05:01
jaevelintelikey, i have installed "nvidia-kernel-common" "linux-restricted-modules 2.6.20" and "nvidia-glx"05:01
tinwhat do you mean, space to spare?05:01
donutman25DaSkreech: i also have another problem05:02
c00kiei've got 3gb left out of both my hd's05:02
c00kieand ubuntu requires 405:02
jaevelintelikey, if i install a new nvidia kernel i nee to reboot?05:02
tinmost of that 4 is already installed with kubuntu05:02
c00kiebasically, i'm asking how i'd uninstall kubuntu05:02
DaSkreechdonutman25: speak05:02
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bernierDaSkreech also, i'd like to know, I have a  fat32 partition which I have to mount everytime I boot .. and I just don't know what to write in fstab. everything I tried doesn't work05:02
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tinif you install ubuntu-desktop, you'll get "Ubuntu"05:03
c00kiewould that be possible?05:03
donutman25DaSkreech: When  i enter my password to get into administrator mode it says "converstion with su failed"05:03
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tindev/hda8              20G  6.3G   12G  35% /05:03
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DaSkreechbernier: pastebin your fstab05:03
tinthat's with a bunch of extra software installed05:03
DaSkreechdonutman25: that sounds like a failed lib :(05:03
tinand both kubuntu-desktop and most of ubuntu-desktop installed05:04
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tinthe line is Total-size, used-size, free-size, used-%05:04
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c00kieso, if i install ubuntu on the same hd as kubuntu, it'll still fit?05:05
c00kiei've got kubuntu on a 4gb hd05:05
tinhow much space does the drive have total?05:05
donutman25DaSkreech: this causes a serious problem because now  i cannot update05:05
c00kie4.03gb05:05
_6StringKng_I don't remember who told me to install the codecs for amarok to work properly but thanks a bunch05:05
DaSkreechI know05:05
tinand it's got 3 GiB free?05:05
intelikeykpshubert less /proc/ioports05:05
c00kieno, my other hd has05:05
DaSkreechcan you just su ?05:05
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tinwhat's free where kubuntu is installed?05:05
bernierDaSkreech http://pastebin.ca/49228805:05
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kpshubertThanks yet again intelikey!05:06
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c00kiedon't know05:06
kpshubert...most go again... time to play some more :_P05:06
c00kiehow much does kubuntu require for install?05:06
kpshubert...bye all!05:06
networkparadoxanyone running Fiesty with a static IP?05:06
david2How come is it when I set up samba to work it goes to hell later when I try to access it later on?05:06
c00kiei will be soon i hope05:06
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david2All my music is on my linux machine damn it05:07
_6StringKng_k, forgot how to disable the bouncy cursors, could someone refresh my memory, been a while since I used Kubuntu, lol05:07
intelikeyjaevel yes.  the only reason to reboot a linux system is for major kernel changes.  the vidio driver in the kernel normally qualifies as major.05:07
c00kietin?05:07
networkparadoxdavid2: too bad there is no sshfs for windows, the os x port works great05:07
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dsmith_i like the bouncy icons05:07
bernierme too05:08
intelikeyyo yo05:08
DaSkreechbernier: /media/d is yours ?05:08
david2I can't afford a MAC05:08
tinc00kie: open a konsole, and type 'df -h'05:08
bernierDaSkreech yes, once it's mounted, I mount it there05:08
c00kiewhat will that do?05:08
tinpaste and /dev/hd lines to me05:08
Jucato_6StringKng_: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", Apperance & Themes -> Launch Feedback05:08
david2But I suppose I could download Mac OS X for x86 machines05:08
david2but then I couldn't run formflow\05:08
bernierDaSkreech, I'm not sure what I added is correct05:08
DaSkreechbernier: You do know that you are missing a column right ?05:09
tinit'll tell us about your disk usage05:09
bernierI guess it's not since it's not workin g05:09
_6StringKng_k, thanks jucato05:09
david2I just need windows for one stiniking program05:09
DaSkreechLook at the top where it lists the columns in <>05:09
david2wine wont run it05:09
DaSkreechYou have one less column than that05:09
_6StringKng_I use windows for games, bout it05:09
_6StringKng_lol05:09
c00kieso can i pm yyou with that tin?05:09
david2that and porn05:09
tinyes05:09
j__dpkg -r kubuntu-desktop05:09
_6StringKng_haven't used linux in a while, just moved, got dsl again, so decided to install it again05:09
bernierDaSkreech yeah just realized, should it work if I fix it?05:09
DaSkreechSupreme Commander FT... boredom :-(05:09
bernierI mean, the rest it ok?05:10
DaSkreechbernier: Yeah05:10
david2Thatr stupid encryption they put on the files that xine or mplayer can't read05:10
j__anyone know how emerald themer work05:10
j__anyone know how emerald themer works05:10
david2Yeah05:10
david2click on it05:10
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david2and choose a theme05:10
david2that simple05:10
j__thats it05:10
j__wow05:10
david2YEah05:10
david2the just of it05:10
Jucato!beryl | j__05:10
ubotuj__: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:10
david2I never bothered adding themes05:10
bernierDaSkreech and what should I write for the missing column?05:11
jaevelintelikey, where can i find what video cards are supported by the nvidia-glx-new driver?05:11
DaSkreechdefaults I guess05:11
david2hmmm05:11
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bernierok05:11
DaSkreechYou can read the man for mount and work it out yourself05:11
j__it dont work for me05:11
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bernierima try it05:12
bernierthanks05:12
intelikeyjaevel i don't know.   sorry.   i got a little ticked at nvidia when i found that my card is not supported and lost interest.05:12
j__it wont replace my old theme that easy but it aint emerald05:12
bernierDaSkreech where can I find this  manual?05:12
DaSkreechbernier: open konqueror and type  man:/mount05:12
bernierthanks05:12
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jaevelintelikey, lol, i think i may be in the same boat...05:12
david2rsync needs to be root to do a full backup right?05:13
intelikeyjaevel i hope not.     oh and i think not.  didn't you say it "was working fine"  until you tried to update the driver ?05:13
BluesKajwell, windows is history on this pc ...finally took the plunge :)05:13
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jaevelintelikey, yes, but i think the new driver no longer supports my board...05:14
BluesKajthe threats over the patents was enuff to put me over the edge05:14
intelikeyso use the older one.05:14
intelikeyuninstall all nvidia*   and install the older driver just like it was a clean install05:15
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: Oh people actually noticed that?05:15
|Assassin`|how do i turn on direct rendering through the terminal?05:15
|Assassin`|direct rendering: No05:15
|Assassin`|OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect05:15
DaSkreechI keep tihnking that MS and the DOJ are whispering when they do that05:15
jaevelintelikey, i will, and this time ill make sure i reboot...05:15
Kr4t05DaSkreech: I just took the time to laugh at it... Because right above it was a headline about Japan going OSS. :P05:16
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intelikeyok guys i'm out for a while.   watch that assassin  i think he's after Jucato ...05:16
jaevelintelikey, thanks for the help... if it doesnt work, ill be back tomorrow...05:16
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intelikeyjaevel any time.   good luck to your pinguin05:16
BluesKajZDNET loves MS but they couldn't resist reporting the latest silliness , DaSkreech :)05:17
DaSkreechKr4t05: doesn't mean they should get away with doing it05:17
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BluesKajthey won't , unless the business types cave05:18
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Kr4t05DaSkreech: I just ignore Ballmer... He's like a tempermental kid... When he realizes the no one will cave to tantrums, then he'll slowly go away.05:18
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bernierDaSkreech I alway get this errer: mount: mount point /mnt/d does not exist . But in fact, it does exist ...05:18
DaSkreechdoes it?05:18
bernieri'm in it right now..05:18
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bernieroh05:19
berniergot it05:19
DaSkreech:-)05:19
bernierdidn't know d or D made a difference05:19
bernier:)05:20
DaSkreech:-)05:20
lobsteranyone know of a good multimedia conversion GUI?05:20
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lobsterhello, BTW05:20
BluesKajdevede and tovid-gui05:21
lobsterdevede?05:21
DaSkreech!info mixxx05:21
ubotumixxx: Digital Disc Jockey Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.0svn~20070130dfsg-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 435 kB, installed size 1388 kB05:21
_6StringKng_k, totally forgot how to install flash player for firefox, someone help?05:21
DaSkreech!find jockey05:21
ubotuPackage/file jockey does not exist in feisty05:21
DaSkreech!flash | _6StringKng_05:21
ubotu_6StringKng_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:21
BluesKajyes lobster , it uses a GUI thats configgable05:21
DaSkreech!search jockey05:22
ubotuFound:05:22
bernierDaSkreech another  problem .. :P I cannot write to my mounted  partition05:22
DaSkreechbernier: read the man:/mount05:22
bernierk05:22
DaSkreechbernier: pay special attention to the -o option05:22
DaSkreechthat's where you get your mount to behave how you want it to05:22
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|Assassin`|how do i set up my driver :(05:23
|Assassin`|im looking at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto#head-8055f455b66a39399b91db278f9a12b91a5b123c05:23
bernierso it would be -o.rw?05:24
bernier-o,rw *05:24
lobsteruhh, I can't find tovid, but devede is not what I am looking for.05:25
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lobsterI want to convert avi to 3gp, or 3gp to mpeg, or mp3 to ogg, etc.  I know I can do it commando with ffmpeg, but I was hoping for a nice easy gui, for a cleaner config05:26
BluesKajlobster: #tovid ..they have a room05:26
DaSkreechbernier: yeah05:26
DaSkreechbernier: or user or umask05:26
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Ichi'm having a font problem05:27
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Ichhttp://pastebin.ca/49231405:27
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david2ugh\05:28
bernieruser or umaks instead of -o,rw?05:28
Ichi tried installing it with apt05:28
bernieriI can't get  it to work =/05:28
DaSkreechbernier: You don't need the -o05:28
DaSkreechjust put the ,rw in the fstab05:28
Ichi am running dist-upgrade. how do i set it so it doesn't replace a package?05:29
bernierjust rw05:29
bernierinstead  of defaults05:29
bernier?05:29
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Assassin`i can't get my driver to work right05:30
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DaSkreechdefaults,rw05:30
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_6StringKng_I used the script for mounting my windows drives, I assumed I would have rite access as well as read, guess not, could someone help.  I used some other app last time I had Kubuntu installed, don't remember what it was called though, ntfs something or another05:31
Assassin`direct rendering: No05:31
Assassin`OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect05:31
Assassin`05:31
Assassin`what do i do ?05:31
_6StringKng_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-e070ee95af2fd63663dff08b8fd783f429bc29a5 thats the tutorial05:31
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Ick_6StringKng_: if it's formatted as NTFS, you don't really get write acces05:31
Carnage\What can be the reason that my Feisty is not able to acquire a DHCP lease anymore whereas it is working with Windows (so the ethernet card works)?05:31
Icks05:31
kalorin`welp05:32
kalorin`so that's done05:32
DaSkreechCarnage\: I"ve heard of that. GOogle it05:32
_6StringKng_uh, I used an app that let me do whatever I want, wish i could rember what it was called, I'll google it05:32
DaSkreechCarnage\: or as a workaround set it static05:32
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Carnage\DaSkreech: Tried that, but that didn't work either...05:32
_6StringKng_ntfs-3g is what its called, cool, found it05:32
Assassin`can someone help me with my driver installation please :)05:33
kalorin`assassin: this the ati drivers?05:33
Jucato!ntfs-3g | _6StringKng_05:33
ubotu_6StringKng_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions05:33
kalorin`or nvidia or what?05:33
DaSkreechCarnage\: static didn't work?05:33
_6StringKng_!ATI05:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:33
Assassin`ati05:33
bernierDaSkreech when i type "mount" in konsole  it says my D is rw but I still cannot write to it05:33
kalorin`yeah just finished mine05:33
kalorin`it's not so hard05:33
kalorin`join #kalorin05:33
DaSkreechbernier: try umask or uid05:33
bernierstill doesn't work05:35
bernier /dev/sda5       /mnt/D          auto defaults,umask,uid,rw  0       005:35
kalorin`welp, my 6.10 -> 7.04 upgrade went pretty much as expected, ran fine, crashed when removing old drivers05:36
kalorin`had to redo the ati drivers05:36
kalorin`and that was about that05:36
DaSkreechbernier: did you read the sections for umask or uid?05:36
bernierno, but I guess I will :P05:36
DaSkreechbernier: :-D05:36
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Assassin`im sorry but that link didn't work for me05:37
kalorin`adn really the only tricky part with the ati drivers anymore I think is the kernel module05:37
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kalorin`that link works fine05:37
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Assassin`i don't know what to do after05:37
kalorin`I just did a kernel upgrade and it's exactly what you need to do assassin05:37
bernierand how do I know whiich value to write to them?05:37
kalorin`pull the installer, have it build the package as it says to05:37
Kr4t05 /join #imagi05:37
Kr4t05?!?05:37
Kr4t05Stupid thing...05:38
kalorin`install the.deb's that it builds, then install the kernel module05:38
Assassin`?05:38
Assassin`im new to this btw05:38
Kr4t05Disregard that, k thnx05:38
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Assassin`really new05:38
kalorin`it gives you all the commands in order05:38
kalorin`I said, join #kalorin05:38
kalorin`I'll walk you through it05:38
Assassin`me05:38
kalorin`u05:38
Assassin`ok thank you :)05:38
bernierDaSkreech and how do I know which value to write to it?05:39
DaSkreechbernier: Which one are you talking about?05:39
bernierlet's say umask05:39
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DaSkreech002205:40
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bernierDaSkreech still doesn't work =/05:42
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DaSkreechYou remounted it?05:42
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berniersudo mount -a05:43
bernierthat's what I did05:43
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DaSkreechsudo mount /mnt/D -o remount would do better05:43
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Ickhow do i fix this locale error?05:44
Ickhttp://pastebin.ca/49233205:44
Ickanybody?05:44
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dr_williscould summerize a bit more. :) somne one may skim the channel/text and know the fix05:45
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david2Anyone have a sample of a samba.conf they can put on paste-bin cause all the somes I see on ubuntu/kubuntu site only work once in a blue moon05:46
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dr_willisHmmm  perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory05:46
bernierwhen I type "mount"05:46
bernierI get: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/D type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=0022)05:46
dr_willisI belive thats a rather common perl message/error.05:46
bernierbut it still doesn't  work05:46
dr_willisbernier,  define 'dosetn work' - can root access it?05:46
david2is the  vfat kernel module loaded?05:46
david2or fat or whatever it is called05:47
bernierdr_willis writing to it05:47
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hitmanWillydavid2: i think its actually compiled in by default05:47
firegunhello ?05:47
david2How should I know05:47
david2I nver built the kernel05:47
david2point is make sure the kernel know how to use it lol05:48
dr_willisbernier,  you can read the files but cant write to it as a user? can root write to it?05:48
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bernierdr_willis didn't try as root, but i'm not  very good with all the commands05:48
dr_willisits highly likely its a permission issue. users dont have full access to the mounted drive.05:50
bernierdr_willis is there a  way I can enable it?05:51
lobsteronce while using debian sarge i built a general colonel for private use.05:51
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firegunhi, I need a help with something stupid, but... I need to mount a SMB share but when I try to do it it keeps saying smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported ;/05:51
dr_willisbernier,  mount it properly with the proper options. :)05:51
dr_willisbernier,  read/writeing to vfat/fat has been standard for ages.. NTFS is not so standard.05:52
dr_willismy fave info sote on the topic05:52
dr_willisargh.. cant find the link.. :(05:52
bernierdr_willis it's fat not NTFS05:52
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dr_willisbernier,  if its vfat theres nothign to enable. :) its allready supported. like i said.,05:53
fireguncan some1 help me with taht05:53
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fireguntaht05:53
firegunthat05:53
lobster? what was that ^^?05:53
hitmanWillynetsplit05:53
bernierdr_willis but it didn't automount  vefore I edit  fstab, and  I cannot write to it05:53
bernierthis is weird05:53
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firegunthe problem with a smb mount05:53
_6StringKng_!ntfs-3g05:53
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions05:53
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lobsterfiregun, how are you setting up the share?05:54
DonMCNCan somebody tell me why Amarok freezes up once I try to Install MP3 Support?05:54
david2How can I figure out what processes are using what portS?05:54
firegunmount -t smbfs -o username=...,password=... //192.168.2.1/jobs /mnt/jobs05:55
dsmith_david2 netstat?05:55
DonMCNI open up a MP3 file, and Amarok opens, and tells me it needs to install MP3 support, but it freezes immediately.05:55
lobsterand the error?05:55
firegunlobster: but I can access it from a konkeror window05:56
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Carnage`DaSkreech: Sorry, had disconnect05:56
Carnage`No with static assignment, it didn't work either05:56
firegunlobster: the error in syslog is smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported05:56
lobsterfiregun and the error?05:56
DaSkreech!mp3 | DonMCN05:56
ubotuDonMCN: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:56
Carnage`So at first glance, I suspected the ethernet card to be broken, but it wasn't. It works with Windows...05:56
hitmanWillyfiregun: you need a : after the IP address05:57
lobsterfiregun: but you can access over the network?05:57
firegunlobster: yeah05:57
firegunhitmanWilly: I will try05:57
kpshubertIn the continuing saga of the malfunctioning nic...05:57
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lobsteranyone know of a decent ffmpeg frontend?05:58
firegunhitmanWilly: some like mount -t smbfs -o username=...,password=... //192.168.2.1:/jobs /mnt/jobs ? cause it dont works ;//05:58
dr_willisbernier,  with automounting of vfat/ntfs under kubuntu - the system normally mounts them wehre users can read only. as a secrity feature05:58
hitmanWillymight have been thinking of something else then...NFS probably05:59
dr_willisbernier,  i would guess you need touse the user/users/umask=0002 or 0000 options in the fstab.05:59
kpshubertThere are three lines in /proc/ioports that talk about the address the nic wants, but I am not smart enough to understand what they mean  :-(05:59
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Carnage\05:59
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bernierdr_willis im currently using 002205:59
bernieri should use 000 instead?06:00
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kpshubertde00-deff : 0000:00:0c.006:00
kpshubert  de00-de03 : motherboard06:00
kpshubert    de00-de03 : pnp 00:0106:00
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kpshubertI know that 0000:00:0c.0 is function 0 of the card I am trying to get to work...06:00
dr_willisbernier,  try it and see.. i cant recall ever using 002206:00
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dr_willissudo mount -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/d06:02
bernierdr_willis got it to  work by ticking the box "supress permission errors" in system settings > disk  and filesystems06:02
dr_willisor similer.06:02
bernier:P06:02
dr_willisbernier,  never used that tool. I edit the thing manually06:02
lobsterfiregun: can you do a reinstall if smbfs ( sudo apt-get install smbfs )06:02
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firegunlobster: Ie updated it to the last version yeasterday ;/06:03
firegunlobster: I've06:03
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lobsterfiregun: look here http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2001-March/025870.html06:04
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lobsterfiregun: and here: https://launchpad.net/bugs/5065106:05
lobsterfiregun: and here: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/16506:05
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kpshubertde00-deff : 0000:00:0c.006:05
kpshubert  de00-de03 : motherboard06:05
kpshubert    de00-de03 : pnp 00:0106:05
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tin.j #ubuntu06:05
tinoops06:05
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Assassin`!ati06:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:08
neptunepinkwhat's the thing you do when aptget crashes?06:08
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firegunlobster: hitmanWilly: thank u guys! it worked06:09
kpshubertNo takers on my question?06:09
hitmanWillyneptunepink: try dpkg --configure -a06:09
hitmanWillyk06:09
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neptunepinksays db is locked how do I unlock it?06:09
neptunepinkah, got it06:10
lobsterfiregun: what was the fix?06:10
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kpshubertWell, I would love it if someone could help me out, but I really have to get to bed, so I guess I will have to come back to it.06:13
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lobsteris there a channel for irc noobs?06:14
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Bertohi - what's the best place to get pidgin 2.0 for kubuntu?   any good sources to add?06:22
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specialbuddyhow can I crack wep keys?06:23
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Zeelothello06:24
_6StringKng_what other kind of media players are there, video wise for Kubuntu?06:24
_6StringKng_Kaffeine seemed ok06:24
hitmanWillyspecialbuddy: there's about 20 different ones, none of which im going to tell you :)06:25
hitmanWillys/ones/ways06:25
specialbuddywell I can't even figure out why iwconfig doesn't work06:25
ZeelotI just finished installing kubuntu, installed beryl and nvidia drivers and seemed to work fine, then i reboot (for first time since install) and now I get a black screen after the kubuntu logo.  Any help? I cant login or run any commands, but I can type stuff on the screen06:26
hitmanWillyspecialbuddy: does it return anything?06:27
specialbuddyZeelot dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:27
specialbuddytype that in console and follow it and change nv to nvidia06:27
Zeelotspecialbuddy can't run any commands06:27
specialbuddythat might help06:27
hitmanWillyspecialbuddy: or just dump out an error06:27
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Zeelothow do I get to a console06:28
hitmanWillyZeelot: ctrl-alt-f106:28
specialbuddyit returns eth1 unassociated ESSID:off/any06:28
DonMCNHey guys, once again I have a problem. Should I use kmplayer or mplayer to watch WMP movies over Firefox?06:28
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DonMCNShould I use kmplayer or mplayer to watch WMP movies over Firefox?06:29
hitmanWillyspecialbuddy: so its just not connecting, huh...06:29
specialbuddyhitmanWilly, I can see networks using Knetwork manager06:29
specialbuddyso how can I see them with iwconfig?06:29
hitmanWillyspecialbuddy: can you connect through that?06:29
specialbuddywell I probably could but I don't know the wep06:30
specialbuddyI'm at my house trying to connect to my router06:30
Noldoaranis there a way to make tab completion case insensitive in bash?06:30
hitmanWillyspecialbuddy: can you run a hardline and reconfig the router that way?06:31
specialbuddywell It's my roommates06:31
specialbuddyhe's not here06:31
specialbuddybut...06:31
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specialbuddyI would rather try it the hard way06:32
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specialbuddybecause I want to know how to do it anyway06:32
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Assassin`i can't enable direct rendering06:32
specialbuddyand supposedly wep isn't secure so I want to see how easy it is06:32
Assassin`help please06:32
hitmanWillyiwconfig won't show the ESSID unless its already connected06:33
specialbuddywell I iwlist eth1 scanning06:33
specialbuddyand found it06:33
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hitmanWillyspecialbuddy: well, again, im not gonna help you crack keys, but it shouldn't be too hard to find out how06:35
Assassin`can someone please help me enable direct rendering06:35
Assassin`ive been trying for like an hour06:36
Assassin`:)06:36
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PsiKloPxI just installed feisty fawn on my Gateway (dual booting)...my max resolution is 1024 x 768 - how can I get it to go higher?  My card is ATI Radeon X300 SE 128 MB06:36
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hitmanWillyAssassin`: nvidia or ati?06:36
Assassin`ive alreade looked at this06:36
Assassin`!ati06:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:36
Assassin`im having an issue06:36
hitmanWillysorry, don't know much about those cards06:37
DezineSo.. I have a laptop that supports dual screens, I set it up through system settings and restarted and it works but the second screen's resolution is way too high but I can't open "Monitor and Display" it just crashes06:37
strabesDezine: you'll most likely have to change it manually in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:38
Assassin`but it should be the same06:38
strabesespecially if you have an ATI card06:38
strabesi have no idea how to do that though so don't ask me06:38
Dezinealright06:38
Assassin`nvidia/ati have the same commands no?06:38
Assassin`it shouldn't matter the card right?06:39
hitmanWillyAssassin`: i don't believe so06:39
hitmanWillyAssassin`: the options change in xorg.conf depending on the card06:39
Assassin`:/06:39
hitmanWillyor driver to be more accurate06:40
Assassin`true06:40
Assassin`but what would it be for nvidia06:40
Assassin`when i type in glxinfo |grep direct i get this:06:41
Assassin`Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".06:41
Assassin`direct rendering: No06:41
Assassin`OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect06:41
Assassin`any ideas at all on how to fix that ?06:41
kalorin`!ati06:41
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:41
kalorin`it mentions making a symlink06:42
kalorin`for DRI06:42
hitmanWillyAssassin`: for nvidia, if you've got the driver enabled, that's all it takes06:42
kalorin`part of the way down the directions06:42
Assassin`how do i enable it06:42
Assassin`like for nvidia06:42
kalorin`read the page and follow the directions06:42
Assassin`i did ">.<"06:42
Assassin`lol06:42
kalorin`you have to link a module in there06:42
hitmanWillyAssassin`: if you followed the install instructions, you already should06:42
Assassin`over and over :)06:42
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Assassin`link a module meaning?06:43
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Assassin`haha06:44
Assassin`its integrated06:44
Assassin`:/06:44
waylhola06:44
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Assassin`no moneys for the nice card06:44
Assassin`ati radeon xpress 20006:45
waylcomo puedo buscar temas de conversaciones, o grupos en este programa06:45
Assassin`still better than pci cards06:45
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dr_willisAssassin`,  heh - im not too sure about that. :)06:45
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dr_willisi wish nvidia was more common in laptops.06:46
Assassin`pci e??06:46
Assassin`7900?06:46
pisqwhen a memory stick shows error on screen,does that mean it's bad?06:46
hitmanWillyon the desktop, 7600 mobile on the lappy06:46
Assassin`i c06:46
waylhola06:47
Assassin`but where do i find the configuration to enable my drivers06:47
hitmanWillybut even the lower end nvidia cards still work pretty good06:47
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pisqhola06:47
dr_willisAssassin`,  for my ati 200m - i found the fglrx drivers to be a bit buggy. so i stuck wth the standard ATI drivers.06:47
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Assassin`well i have that on my desktop06:48
Assassin`i don't know how to install it06:48
dr_willisI like some of the Nvidia cards that are now fanless.  for my Mythtv box's06:48
Assassin`can't open bin file06:48
Assassin`heat sink ftw !06:48
dr_willisAssassin`,  if you are using .bin files - you proberly need to research what you are doing. :)06:48
dr_willisAssassin`,  you want to isntall the fglrx drivers for your ati based machine?06:48
specialbuddyhow do I find my wireless mac address?06:48
hitmanWillyspecialbuddy: ifconfig06:49
Assassin`the ati driver was a bin file06:49
dr_willisspecialbuddy,  ethtool or ifconfig - can show that info i belive06:49
Assassin`i knew they wouldn't work for kubuntu06:49
dr_willisAssassin`,  not really :) they are in the repositories. :) no need to use the .bin version06:49
Assassin`its just sitting teir06:49
specialbuddythanks06:49
hitmanWillyspecialbuddy: its under HWaddr06:49
dr_willis!ati06:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:49
Assassin`ok06:49
Assassin`i did that06:49
Assassin`over and over06:49
Assassin`i need to enable my direct rendering06:49
Assassin`its not turned on06:50
dr_willisthen ya missed a step. It takes me all of. like 3 min to get the fglrx going on a new install. now as far as direct rendering.. Not sure. never noticed it being one way or the other.06:50
Assassin`glxinfo |grep direct06:50
dr_willisnot evensure how to check.06:50
dr_willisand since the laptop is way across the house. :) it aint getting chedked.. of course its now using the 'ati' driver not 'fglrx'06:50
Assassin`this is my output06:51
Assassin`Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".06:51
Assassin`direct rendering: No06:51
Assassin`OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect06:51
hitmanWillyAssassin`: yup, that's software rendering alright06:51
Assassin`:)06:51
Assassin`but its not working yet06:51
Assassin`i need to make it work06:51
dr_willisgivenhow flakey the fglrx stuff was on my system. Ill stick with 'ati' for now.06:51
hitmanWillyAssassin`: see if there's any refernce to mesa in xorg.conf06:52
Assassin`so how do i get the ati drivers through the terminal06:52
dr_willissudo apt-get install fglrx or similer..06:52
Assassin`instead of fglrx drivers06:52
Assassin`ati06:52
Assassin`i will try06:52
Assassin`h/o06:52
Assassin`:/06:53
dr_willisati drivers those are 'default' install. just change 'fglrx' in the xorg.conf file from 'Driver fglrx' to 'Driver ati' normally06:53
hitmanWillythe open ati drivers don't support direct rendering tho06:53
hitmanWillyiirc06:53
dr_williswith fglrx - every time i logged out. i got a black screen and had to reboot. plus lockups.06:53
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hitmanWillyati's linux binaries are buggy06:54
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Assassin`im still confused06:54
Assassin`i should be able to see my devices06:55
hitmanWillyi do believe that AMD (ati's new owner) is going to open source them tho06:55
dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI mentions some of that dri issues and its fix's06:55
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hitmanWillyi read it somewhere...06:55
dr_willishitmanWilly,  i hppe so06:56
dr_willishitmanWilly,  but i will wait tilli see it actually happen.06:56
hitmanWillydr_willis: http://enterpriselinuxlog.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/05/09/amd-will-deliver-open-graphics-drivers/06:57
specialbuddy!pastebin06:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:57
hitmanWillyonce that happens, i may jump the nvidia ship...06:58
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specialbuddyhitmanWilly, can you tell me what's going on here06:59
specialbuddyitm06:59
dr_willishitmanWilly,  even when it does happen.. :) i will wait a few months befor trying ati again06:59
Assassin`nothing is working -_-06:59
specialbuddyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21232/06:59
Assassin`im really mad06:59
Assassin`i keep getting directed to the same thing and nothing there is helpful lol07:00
dr_willisAssassin`,  clarify the exact problem i guess.07:00
Assassin`everything is installed07:01
dr_willisits possible you are just missing some little point.07:01
Assassin`ok07:01
Assassin`now when i type in the command glxinfo |grep direct it says that direct rendering is not enabled07:01
Assassin`meaning that my driver isn't enabled as the device ">.<"07:02
Assassin`i need to enable it :)07:02
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Assassin`is their a place to look at your devices?07:02
dr_willisnot sure how that logic follows.. from what i was just reading if you have certian options in the xorg.conf - dri will get disabled.07:02
Assassin`dri?07:03
hitmanWillyspecialbuddy: ya got me...07:03
dr_willisyes.. dri can get disabled - if you are using some optionsin the xorg.conf file. I just read it at that ati wiki page. :)07:03
Assassin`?07:03
dr_willisat the url i mentioned.....07:04
dr_willisIn Ubuntu Edgy the Composite extension is enabled by default, however, fglrx does not yet support Composite with DRI. To disable Composite you must edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, so add these lines at the end of xorg.conf:07:04
dr_willisnot sure if FEISTY has the same issue or not.07:04
hitmanWillyspecialbuddy: looks like its trying to connect using standard ethernet protocol vice wifi07:04
Assassin`i have feisty fawn  ">.<"07:04
specialbuddyok07:05
Assassin`:)07:05
specialbuddyI think I might have found out the problem07:05
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specialbuddyairmon-ng start eth1 1107:05
dr_willisAssassin`,  the site mentions feisty also.07:05
Assassin`i did it07:05
dr_willis    *07:05
dr_willis      ATI are well known not to be able to provide correct drivers for their hardware so you will have to deactivate the composite extension in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , otherwise you will get a jerky video display: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the following lines at the end of the file:07:05
Assassin`over and aver07:05
dr_willisAssassin`,  you did Restart the X server after edting that file?07:06
dr_willisnot just logging out. but a alt-ctrl-backspace - kickit-in-the-head-restart-of-X :)07:06
Assassin`i don't know what your talking about07:06
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Assassin`yea i did the restart :)07:06
dr_willisAssassin`,  you edit the xorg.conf file... made changees.. then you rebooted?or what?07:07
Assassin`xorg.conf file..........07:07
Assassin`no one told me about that07:07
Assassin`im trying to get help :(07:07
hitmanWillyAssassin`: did you use the restricted drivers manager?07:07
Assassin`yes07:07
dr_willisAssassin`,  all the information i am quoting is comming from --->  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI07:08
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Assassin`where is the restricted drivers manager07:08
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hitmanWillyAssassin`: try following the 6.10 instructions, that does it by hand07:08
Assassin`where do i find the restricted drivers manager07:09
dr_willisi think when i tried to play a video - the system asked me if i wanted to enable the extra repositoris when it installed stuff. :)07:09
Assassin`or how do i open it in the terminal07:09
dr_willis!find restricted-manager07:09
ubotuFound: restricted-manager07:09
dr_willis!info restricted-manager07:09
uboturestricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB07:09
Assassin`can't you just tell me07:09
dr_willissudo apt-get install restricted-manager07:09
dr_williswould be the command to install that package.07:09
dr_willissince the packaage name is 'restricted-manager'07:10
Assassin`restricted manager is already the newest version07:10
Assassin`but where is it07:10
Assassin`i knew that much07:10
dr_willisweb site says -->  Open the restricted drivers manager included in 7.04 "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver". This will hopefully enable fglrx in a painless way. If not, follow the instructions for Edgy.07:11
Assassin`ok now we are getting somewhere07:11
Assassin`thank you so much07:11
Assassin`but...07:11
dr_willisIt put an icon in the menus..07:11
dr_willislook for the icon.07:11
dr_willisif you got the drivers installed. and dri is not working.. from what i am reading. be sure you got the 'compoite' feature disabled.07:12
Assassin`there is no administration button07:12
dr_willisthat may be the GNOME menu layout.07:12
Assassin`thats what ive been looking for07:12
Assassin`it is07:12
hitmanWillythat's gnome07:12
Assassin`im in the kde layout07:12
dr_willisim using icewm. :)07:12
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dr_willissudo restricted-manager07:13
dr_willisruns it forme.07:13
Assassin`Failed to open device07:14
Assassin`Must be run as root07:14
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Assassin`ZOMFG07:14
Assassin`thank you07:14
dr_williswhats what  the sudo part of my command did.07:14
Assassin`sudo restricted-manager07:14
Assassin`finally07:14
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Assassin`now its enabled07:15
Assassin`thank you07:15
dr_willisor ya could of searched the kde menus and found it. :)07:15
Assassin`it wasn't there07:15
dr_willisbut it is an annoyance the way all the guides are ubuntu specific07:15
Assassin`i couldn't find it07:15
Assassin`exactly07:15
dr_willisof course I also install gnome and kde both.07:15
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Assassin`thats why i couldn't get it07:15
dr_willisbut i do belive i ran it right off on my kubuntu install.07:15
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dr_willisi thhought it even had an iconin the systemtray by default for me. Not sure what added that.07:16
Assassin`well ima do a restart and hopefully its working :)07:16
dr_willisi also find it annoying how the howtos tell you the MENU order.. and not just the command.07:16
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dr_williswell night all.07:17
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oldwestHi -  Is there a way in Kubuntu to do a desktop screen capture?07:17
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apberzerkyes07:18
apberzerkthere's an application, i think it's called kscreencapture07:18
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apberzerkmaybe there's a dash somewhere in the name07:18
hitmanWillyoldwest: ksnapshot iirc07:18
apberzerkah yeah07:19
Rictooconfigure: error: *** GTK+ >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***07:19
RictooHow do I see what gtk version I have?07:19
oldwesthitman - will look in synaptics for it - thx much hitman07:19
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hitmanWillynp07:20
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oldwesti really like kubuntu trying to totally break the windoze chains....  ;o)07:20
Assassin`its working07:21
Assassin`O_O07:21
hitmanWilly:)07:21
Assassin`now beryl07:21
kalorin`chain chain chainz!07:21
oldwestgetting there - work in progress - be back again sometime - thx again07:21
hitmanWillyits bad when a person feels like a prisoner to their OS07:22
hitmanWillypeople don't use windows because they like it, they use it becuse they have to07:23
oldwestwell if thats all you've know until someone turns you onto linux - you are stuck with what bill tells you....07:23
Assassin`now wher is the administration tab located in kde07:23
hitmanWillyM$ enforcement/marketing department...07:23
RictooWHat would be the package name for GTK 1.2?07:24
oldwestbye fer now07:24
hitmanWillyAssassin`: kmenu -> system07:24
Assassin`its not there07:25
hitmanWillyAssassin`: what are you looking for?07:25
Assassin`to change themes ect07:25
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hitmanWillyAssassin`: run kcontrol07:25
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hitmanWillyor system settings07:26
hitmanWillyAssassin`: kcontrol has a few more options tho07:26
RictooGTK+ >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first07:26
RictooWHat's the package name for it?07:27
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hitmanWillyRictoo: probably libgtk something or other07:27
apberzerkwhat's the exact make-kpkg command to rebuild only my modules and not my kernel image07:27
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AloneaOk, when we try to install kubuntu, it keeps saying buffer i/o errors. It does this after a long time of waiting after selecting start or install kubuntu. Says its on hda..hdd is fine though.07:31
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Aloneaand something about a squash fs error...07:31
Aloneadrive is sata07:31
Assassin`!xgl07:32
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:32
hitmanWillyAssassin`: kubuntu has xgl by default07:32
Assassin`O_O07:32
Assassin`ok07:32
Assassin`:)07:32
Assassin`thats grrreat07:32
hitmanWillyAssassin`: if you want beryl all you ahve to do is install beryl and beryl-manager07:33
Assassin`oky dokey07:33
Assassin`sweet07:33
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hitmanWillyAssassin`: actually, ithink ubuntu comes with aiglx, not xgl, but it works too07:34
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Assassin`not very good tho07:35
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Aloneaanyone know what buffer i/o errors are and why they would show up when trying to install?07:35
hitmanWillyAlonea: drive broken?07:36
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AloneahitmanWilly: no. WIndows just installed on it perfectly. its all brand new.07:37
hitmanWillyhmm, not setup fro raid or anything is it?07:37
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Aloneadunno what raid even is. Its a sata hdd, amd dual core processor, nvidia 6 series video card. i gig of ram07:38
Aloneai think I saw something raid in the bios earlier. think it was disabled or something...07:39
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keypad!bt87807:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bt878 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:41
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hitmanWillyAlonea: raid is a way to have multiple hdds act as a single unit07:41
Aloneaok. well, there is only one hdd07:42
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hitmanWillyAlonea: that error means it can't talk to the drive for some reason07:42
AloneahitmanWilly: ok. is there anything special you need to do for sata?07:42
kalorin`software raid and linux don't get along well07:43
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kalorin`that much I've read07:43
hitmanWillyAlonea: not that i know of07:43
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kalorin`cause it's not really a raid and requires some drivers that are generally under windows07:43
hitmanWillyAlonea: mine worked out of the box07:43
Aloneakalorin`: as far as I know, the raid thingie isn't on07:43
Assassin`beryl is crashing07:43
Assassin`O_o07:43
AloneahitmanWilly: same for me too.07:43
kalorin`nighty07:43
aCiD`tRiPim having trouble with permissions on an external hard drive with NTFS, its all read only.... any suggestions?07:44
hitmanWillyAssassin`: try #ubuntu-effects, they're the beryl experts07:44
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Assassin`ok07:44
Assassin`:)07:44
hitmanWillyAlonea: anyway, you may have to twiddle with bios settings some07:44
Aloneaok, what type of things would i need to change07:45
Assassin`xgl is default right07:45
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Assassin`!xgl07:45
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:45
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hitmanWillyAlonea: take a look at the drive/controller settings and see if anything special is set07:46
Aloneajust for the hdd? there is an access mode set to auto. other choice is large.07:47
hitmanWillyhmmm...07:47
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Aloneaalso a thing labelled Extended IDE Drive set to auto or none07:48
hitmanWillyhow are the drive jumpers set, or does it have any?07:48
keypadCan some one help me install tv time  ?07:48
hitmanWillyAlonea: or is this a lappy?07:49
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AloneahitmanWilly: what do you mean? Its a pc. he just built it from scratch07:49
AloneaJumperFree Configuration, thats a screen07:49
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AloneahitmanWilly: I really don't know a lot about hardware. software is more my thing.07:49
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KNatesoooooooooo, who is going to lend me a hand in my never ending trying to get sound working07:50
Aloneathe drive is plugged into SATA 1, thats all I know07:50
keypaddoes any one know any software for tvcapture cards ?07:50
hitmanWillyAlonea: hardware problems are hard to diagnose remotely...07:50
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donKNate, try switching sound card if you can07:51
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_6StringKng_k, so I went upstairs, made some food, come back down to my room, Kubuntu is at ablack screen, I restart, now it wont boot into kubuntu, black screen, even in recovery mode07:51
KNatelaptop, so no go:(07:51
KNateare there %100 working USB soundcards out there?07:52
_6StringKng_newegg.com, they have some usb one I think, by creative I think07:52
donoh07:52
hitmanWillyAlonea: it may be a compatiblity issue with the mobo or bios07:52
KNatedo they work tho?07:52
Aloneaok, there is an IDE function setup screen with some options. OnChip IDE Channel0 and Channel1, IDE DMA transfer access, SATA Port 1,2 then SATA DMA transfer, then SATA port 3,4, then SATA2 DMA transfer, and IDE prefetch mode07:52
_6StringKng_you try a different driver?07:52
donsome went that route07:52
AloneahitmanWilly: would updating the bios help?07:53
hitmanWillyAlonea: maybe...07:53
donthen have usb trouble07:53
KNatei dont even know if i have the right driver07:53
hitmanWillyAlonea: you might try googling it and see if anything pops up07:53
AloneahitmanWilly: I guess we could try that. Know anything about that IDE function setup stuff?07:53
donI have been lucky it seems to have all my different sound dvrs07:54
Im_the_ONEAlonea: isnt it a memory problem? try memtest8607:54
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hitmanWillyAlonea: in my experience you want to leave bios stuff set to auto unless you know that its causing problems07:54
donone is one size fits all07:54
AloneaIm_the_ONE: buffer i/0 on hda? that should be hdd. I had it before, but never here07:54
Im_the_ONEAlonea: bad blocks on HD?07:55
keypadWhat programs are out there for tv capture cards ?07:55
AloneaIm_the_ONE: thats what it usually, is, but thats not the case here. reformatting the disk will fix that problem. not to mention windows would be seeing the same errors, which its not, and the disk is brand spanking new.07:55
Im_the_ONEAlonea:  not really...07:55
aCiD`tRiPwhat do i have to do to edit my files on an hard drive that has ntfs?07:56
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Im_the_ONEAlonea: get the tool from the hdd manufacter and run deep tests, those tools can recover your hdd if needed07:56
Im_the_ONEAlonea: formatting it wont solve it07:56
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AloneaIm_the_ONE: at least when I had it last time on a few things, reformatting fixed it. hitmanWilly said something isn't reading disk right. I am almost POSITIVE the hdd is perfectly fine.07:57
hitmanWillyAlonea: can you get a livecd up and running?07:57
AloneahitmanWilly: nope. It does this when I click on Start or Install Kubuntu on the live cd. We have yet to even get anything linux wise running07:58
Im_the_ONEAlonea: i would suggest you to download a full-test tool from your hdd`s site manufactor, its always the best way to identify hdd problem and also solve them... its worth a try07:58
hitmanWillyAlonea: can you boot the livecd into failsafe mode? ie cmd line only?07:59
AloneaIm_the_ONE: I still doubt that there is anything wrong with the drive itself.07:59
Im_the_ONEAlonea: just download a diagnostic tool and run a full test and make sure :)07:59
AloneahitmanWilly: umm, I can get him to try here in a minute. He is trying to update bios...disk is being evil. Says its not for this version of windows08:00
hitmanWillyugg08:00
CVirus!busybox08:00
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CVirus!busy box08:01
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Im_the_ONEAlonea: so u run windows on the same HD?08:01
AloneahitmanWilly: the version of windows I gave him is win pro mce, which is all I could get to install. regular win xp would not without a proper cd key.08:01
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AloneaIm_the_ONE: yeah. windows is on it and running just fine.08:01
Im_the_ONEAlonea: well, for me, its definetly bad blocks ;P08:02
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hitmanWillyAlonea: also the cmd line boot shows verbose boot messages so if anything weird pops up you'll be able to see it08:02
Im_the_ONEor maybe some incompatibility with your SATA controller and linux08:02
hitmanWillythat's what i would guess08:03
AloneahitmanWilly: ok. will try that in a minute.08:03
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Im_the_ONEAlonea: whats ur mobo chipset?08:03
Aloneamobo?08:03
Assassin`no one is awake in #ubuntu-effects08:03
Im_the_ONEAlonea: mobo = motherboard08:03
Assassin`you guys say xgl is already on feisty fawn08:03
hitmanWillyAlonea: also, you may want to go to the motherboard manufacturers site and search for "linux"08:04
AloneaIm_the_ONE: Asus M2N-PLus SLI08:04
Im_the_ONEAssassin`: no...08:04
Im_the_ONEAssassin`: have you tried allowing all apt-sources and apt-get install xserver-xgl08:05
Im_the_ONE?08:05
Assassin`no08:06
Assassin`what should i do08:06
Assassin`im a linux noob so please try to bare with me :)08:06
Im_the_ONEAssassin`: system > administration > software sources (and allow all the repo)08:07
Assassin`i have no administration tab08:07
JucatoIm_the_ONE: that's only on GNOME08:07
hitmanWillyanyway, i need to get some sleep, see y'all08:08
JucatoAssassin`: aiglx is the one that's enabled by default since Feisty. not xgl08:08
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Im_the_ONEJucato: so how can he found the software sources options or it isnt available?08:08
Assassin`ok08:08
Assassin`how do i set up xgl08:08
Assassin`!xgl08:08
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Im_the_ONEAssassin`: just download it on apt, do you know how?08:08
Assassin`sudo apt-get install "?"08:09
JucatoIm_the_ONE: from Adept Manager -> Adept menu -> Manage Repositories08:09
Im_the_ONEAssassin`: but as far as i remember you have to allow other repositories than defaults08:09
JucatoAssassin`: the #ubuntu-effects channel has some guides that can be found in the channel topic08:09
AloneaIm_the_ONE: is there any problems with asus and linux?08:09
Im_the_ONEAlonea: not with asus, maybe with newer chipsets08:10
donno or live cd would not work08:10
AloneaIm_the_ONE: I honestly have no idea. I thought kubuntu would work right out of the box for him.08:10
Im_the_ONEAlonea: what u gave me was your motherboard model, not chipset...08:10
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donmust be the sata08:10
AloneaIm_the_ONE: the Socket thing?08:10
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AloneaIm_the_ONE: Socket  AM2?08:11
donya go wit h a regular drive08:11
Im_the_ONEAlonea: no, chipset, like nforce 4, nforce 590... whatever08:11
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Im_the_ONEit can be ati, via, etc...08:11
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AloneaIm_the_ONE: nVidia nForce 500 SLI08:12
KNatei will give somone $50 if they can get my sound working08:13
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Im_the_ONEAlone: it may be any incompatibility with your sata controller, or bad blocks, or... i dont know :P but as i told you before, i suggest that you download a diagnostic tool and run a full test to diagnostic any problem or even correct them08:15
LynoureKNate: I don't do suppert normally, but lets see: What sound chip and what kind of "not working"?08:16
AloneaIm_the_ONE: is it possible hda is referring to the dvd rom and NOT the hdd?08:16
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Im_the_ONEAlonea: i dont think so... :)08:16
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donyou using alsa drivers KNate?08:17
AloneaIm_the_ONE: because his dvd rom is downright evil and is quite picky. its old. he hasn't bought a new one yet08:17
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KNatehey, sorry im back08:18
Im_the_ONEAlonea: when does it get an error? in the beggining of installation?08:18
KNateits intel-hda08:18
KNatei dont know if im using alsa drivers08:18
donKNate, alsa is a universal dvr08:19
KNateand by not workingi mean, kubuntu knows the sound card is there, files play in the apps, i just cant hear anything08:19
AloneaIm_the_ONE: Ok, we select the start or install kubuntu on the list at boot, it says load kernels, shows splash with loading bar for like 5 minutes, and then goes black and starts doing buffer i/o type error stuff08:19
doncheck in adept and see if so install cant hirt08:20
LynoureKNate: it seems you need newest alsa for that :/08:20
KNatewhats the easiest way of install that08:20
donsee if it is mute08:20
LynoureKNate: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2725 has info on the bug08:20
KNateive tried that, its not08:20
donyou know adept08:20
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KNateyeh08:20
jonathan_hi everyone08:21
KNateim not a total moron with linux, but i am new, i got beryl/wireless/ working, just sound is shitting me up the walll08:21
donin there are alsa sound dvrs follow directions yours should work though08:21
Im_the_ONEAlonea: hey, you have only 1 sata as hard-drive?08:22
KNatewell, googling, everyone with intel-hda has had no luck, and i cant access that site, it was a user/paa08:22
KNate*pass08:22
donI understand just tried to help08:22
Im_the_ONEAlonea: it could be the CD-ROM driver (hda) but its strange if you can run the live-cd with no problems... maybe your cd is defective...08:23
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LynoureKNate: see http://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel08:23
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AloneaIm_the_ONE: I can't run the live cd though...I never get actually inside kubuntu. and I have tried my old disk as well, which I know that works08:23
LynoureKNate: The walls must take a lot of cleaning then... =)08:23
KNatelol08:24
AloneaIm_the_ONE: we are trying command line install right now and see how that goes08:24
KNateok ill give that a try, hang on, and thanks08:24
Im_the_ONEAlonea: oh, then it must be a cd-rom driver problem... the cd-driver works fine on windows?08:24
Im_the_ONEAlonea: yeah, i was about to tell you to do that08:24
AloneaIm_the_ONE: umm..mostly...kinda...sorta? it generally works, though it would not load the oblivion dvd earlier....08:25
KNateis this right08:25
KNatenate@natious:~$ modinfo soundcore08:25
KNatefilename:       /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko08:25
KNatealias:          char-major-14-*08:25
KNatelicense:        GPL08:25
KNateauthor:         Alan Cox08:25
KNatedescription:    Core sound module08:25
KNatesrcversion:     45750F13477CBA5B6F36F4608:25
KNatedepends:08:25
KNatevermagic:       2.6.20-15-generic SMP mod_unload 58608:25
KNatenate@natious:~$08:25
Im_the_ONEAlonea: cant u try another drive?08:25
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AloneaIm_the_ONE: don't have any more08:26
Jucato!pastebin | KNate08:26
ubotuKNate: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:26
LynoureKNate: hard to say without seeing what version of alsa it is from08:26
Im_the_ONEAlonea: sad :(08:26
dontry it08:26
LynoureKNate: If they say in the bug report the fix is in 2.6.20 kernel (did not check), possibly08:26
crimsunhe needs a patch that was just made.08:27
crimsunapply http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/attachments/20070516/cfea9bb1/attachment.patch to current alsa-kernel hg08:27
Im_the_ONEAlonea: what drives you have on the system? a cdrom and a sata hd?08:28
donKNate check out that patch08:28
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Aloneayeah (well, dvd rom)08:29
Im_the_ONEAlonea: your dvd is the only ide device on the system?08:29
Lynourecrimsun: I think it will take more handholding that that, I don't think he has patcthed anything in his life08:29
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Lynourecrimsun: maybe not even compiled.08:30
donoh08:30
AloneaIm_the_ONE: yes08:30
Im_the_ONEAlonea: well, then hda is really your dvd-rom, and its probably your problem :P08:30
Aloneaok, Im_the_ONE, so far it is partitioning the drive on the command line setup.08:30
KNatewhich is the most recent ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver08:30
AloneaIm_the_ONE: I will laugh if this works. at least I have done cmd setupos before and it does not scare me.08:31
crimsunKNate: no, follow the directions at the bottom of the download page linked from the ALSA home page.08:31
AloneaIm_the_ONE: I always manually partition my drive anyway08:31
KNatehey bud, its me from this morning im back08:31
Im_the_ONEAlonea: good. Its the best thing to do :)08:31
crimsunKNate: make sure build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), autoconf, automake1.7, libtool, and mercurial are installed.08:31
crimsunKNate: I'm going to sleep.08:31
KNatebahh, :(08:31
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KNatestuip timezone08:31
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KNateshould i apt-get install those?08:32
Admiral_Chicagoyes08:32
doncheck it out it probably will08:32
Im_the_ONEKNate: apt-get install module-assistant, then module-assistant prepare, and then module-assistant a-i (module name) maybe it will help08:32
AloneaIm_the_ONE: heh. good ole command line.08:32
AloneaIm_the_ONE: though he would be staring at it in hatred...at least I did the partitioning for him.08:33
Im_the_ONEAlonea: graphical interface is always more susceptible to errors :P08:33
LynoureAlonea: Much easier than going "then click there"08:33
KNateok im downloading all those things now08:33
Im_the_ONEnext-next-finish08:33
dongood08:33
donyou will get it08:34
Im_the_ONEare you sure? yes. next next next, are you sure? yes. finish08:34
angeldarkholmehi: could you please help me with this:08:34
KNatenow after ive downloaded them, am i atempting that patch?08:34
donwhat?08:34
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angeldarkholmeI want to have writting permision in my /media/sda2 partition wich belongs to a ntfs file system.....with windows08:34
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angeldarkholmehow can I do that?08:35
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nodeserthi. With kopete i can not sign in until i reconfigure the settings again.What can i do?08:35
AloneaIm_the_ONE: ok. it keeps saying .deb files are corrupted on random things.08:35
Im_the_ONEangeldarkholme: as far as i know, its not possible, since u are not root in that system08:35
angeldarkholmebut I use to have sabayon linux08:35
Im_the_ONEAlonea: well, then its a  dvd driver problem08:36
angeldarkholme( from gentoo )08:36
angeldarkholmeand in that system08:36
rob123abctry ntfs-3g08:36
angeldarkholmeI use to have writting permision08:36
AloneaIm_the_ONE: ok. so, nothing you can do to fix it?08:36
rob123abctry apt-get ntfs-3g08:36
angeldarkholmeI already have ntfs-3g in my system08:36
Im_the_ONEAlonea: not really, but you can, buy a new driver :(08:36
KNatecrimsun are you there08:36
AloneaIm_the_ONE: new drive, or driver?08:37
Im_the_ONEsorry, drive08:37
Im_the_ONElol08:37
donhe went to sleep08:37
KNateand stays logged in? what time is it in the states asuming thats where most of you are08:37
rob123abc   mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda3 /mnt/windows -o08:37
don2:4008:38
donam08:38
LynoureKNate: I hardly ever log out.08:38
rob123abcyou have to type the "-o" after the mountpoint08:38
LynoureKNate: I just go /away08:38
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Im_the_ONEto sleep is only for weak ppl08:38
_6StringKng_!ATI08:38
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:38
LynoureOh, I do sleep :)08:38
Im_the_ONEhehehe08:39
Im_the_ONEi dont, i only close my eyes :)08:39
KNateso which master is next to help me when all that crap downloads, i dont even know what im supposed to be doing, im not sure i have alsa drivers, or how to use this patch, and what is hg :( ohh the hummanity, why is linux so hard08:39
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Im_the_ONEi drink too much coffee to be able to sleep :(08:39
dondid you read directions at the bottom of that page he said,KNate?08:39
nodesertKNAte: yes it stays logged in untill i restart my laptop08:39
LynoureKNate: I just closed all the related windows, assuming he would take over. But stop swearing, or you'll be in trouble08:39
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Im_the_ONEKNate: because itsnt meant to be easy :P08:40
LynoureKNate: someone will probably help you, as long as you don't swear yourself to get kicked before that.08:40
Im_the_ONElol08:40
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AloneaIm_the_ONE: well, I have permission to take it to mutal friend and temporarily borrow drive until we can at least get some stuff installed.08:41
Admiral_Chicago!grub > Admiral_Chicago08:41
Im_the_ONEAlonea: do that, at least you will eliminate one possibility if itsnt really the problem :P08:42
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AloneaIm_the_ONE: indeed. and in a couple months he can get a new one08:42
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flowingfireIn less than 10 days, it looks like Fedora is releasing a new version.  Does anybody know what the pros and cons are about Fedora as opposed to Ubuntu.  I'm very happy with Ubuntu, but a number of things are buggy... Would Fedora be better or worse?08:43
Im_the_ONEAlonea: or you can try a minimal net-installer :)08:43
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flowingfireDoes Ubuntu tend to be a few steps ahead of Fedora?08:44
Im_the_ONEAlonea: but you will need to burn it into a cd-rom08:44
donI just tried fedora, when it got updates it froze solid08:44
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AloneaIm_the_ONE: well, there is other things that are not installing, like oblivion in windows08:44
keypadcan some one help me ? my tvtime is not displaying colour :(08:44
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flowingfiredon: Frozen solid? Like crashed?08:44
donFedora did not impress me at all08:44
Im_the_ONEAlonea: yeah, it appears to be dvd driver problem at all :P08:44
donjust froze could not do anything with it08:45
LynoureKNate: What did you download? I'm not familiar with the module-assistant, just the old way, but maybe I can still help (however I only do low-stress fun support as I cannot take your 50 anyway)08:45
flowingfireHmm . . . you'd think that the red-hat engineers could come up with something better.  lol08:45
donwork ok till update but not very impressive08:45
AloneaIm_the_ONE: yeah, its the only thing that isn't brand new besides video card, which he is also borrowing, but its still nice08:46
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_6StringKng_!ATI08:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:46
_6StringKng_!ntfs-3g08:46
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions08:46
Assassin`!beryl08:46
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:46
flowingfireHmm... What are the plus-sides of Ubuntu? I like it but I don't know how to compare it on any real technical basis08:46
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KNateok its done downloaing08:46
KNatei dontknow what i downloaded08:46
KNateill tell you08:46
KNate:~$ sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) autoconf automake1.7 libtool mercurial08:47
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KNatehow do i check if i have the alsa drivers so i can apply the patch08:47
Im_the_ONEKNate: apt-get install module-assistant08:47
KNatewhat is that program08:48
LynoureIm_the_ONE: If you are going to walk him through I can go have breakfast.08:48
Im_the_ONEa module assistant08:48
LynoureIm_the_ONE: don't forget sudo.08:48
KNateis it possible to make a recovery cd? like the windowz ones, so if anything screws up i can just load, and boom, back how it is08:48
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donIt is not like that,KNate just sound dvrs08:49
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KNateok, so whos ready to rock n roll and get my sound working lol08:50
LynoureKNate: the problem is that particular sound chip does not work "how it was" in that version. Unlike to windows, most hardware companies do not supply Linux with drivers but volunteer make them themselves.08:50
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KNateso new drivers+patch will make it do its thing?08:51
KNatemy gf will be home soon, ready to rub it in that vista is better because it plays sound.. sigh08:52
Im_the_ONEKNate: usually :P08:52
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KNateso what do i need todo first to install the latest alsa drivers08:52
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Im_the_ONEim still waiting for a x-fi fatal1ty sound driver for lonux08:52
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Im_the_ONE*linux08:52
Im_the_ONEvista sucks :X08:53
donya, KNate you have sound on live cd?08:53
pollyoIm_the_ONE: Why not tell us what you think is good ...08:53
KNatei dont think so, i only used the live cd to isntall08:54
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Im_the_ONEi preffer XP, or linux... vista sucks.08:54
LynoureIm_the_ONE: But you are going to walk KNate through it, right?08:54
donIf I didnt have sound on cd I would not have installed08:54
donI hope somebody does08:55
LynoureI'd hate to go goof of if someone just drops the ball again..08:55
Im_the_ONELynoure: i can try, but im not an expert08:55
Im_the_ONE:P08:55
dontry08:55
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KNate:( this isnt going to bork my whole install? ive installed it many times after screwing it getting wireless and beryl working lol08:56
Im_the_ONElol08:56
Im_the_ONEKNate: whats ur gpu?08:56
KNate512 790008:56
LynoureKNate: no, not going to, only at most your sound, and that does not even work now08:56
KNatenvidia08:56
Im_the_ONEnice thing is to try to install beryl on a debian system, with a ATI graphic that can only run with proprietary drivers, its awesome!!!08:57
LynoureKNate: the sound module only affects the sound, and in this case possibly the build in modem08:57
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KNatewell i dont use the built in modem, lol modem, i dont think anyone uses dial up anymore08:57
Im_the_ONEi use08:57
LynoureIm_the_ONE: But you do know how to continue, right?08:58
Im_the_ONEit makes me a call when someone tries to break to my system08:58
LynoureKNate: I know some people who travel a lot and they occasionally do.08:58
KNatei dont know where to go from here, AFAIK, im to install latests alsa drivers then use the new patch?08:58
LynoureKNate: get the sources, apply patch, compile, install.08:59
KNatewhen im out on the road and i need internet, if im in the city, theres free wireless everywhere, other wise i use my phone08:59
KNateok, you wanna lead me through it? pretty please08:59
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KNateill send you a jar of vegimite lol09:00
Im_the_ONEhow does he apply a patch? like: ./ patch ?09:00
Im_the_ONEhehe09:00
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LynoureKNate: I'm desperately hoping someone who either likes doing support or can take your reward will walk you through it... I have not even had breakfast yet09:00
KNateget some breakfeast n come back lol09:00
Pollywogwhy can't I apt-get mythtv?  is it not in the repositories for Feisty?09:01
LynoureKNate: did you fetch the patch yet: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/attachments/20070516/cfea9bb1/attachment.patch09:01
Im_the_ONEPollywog: u have to allow the repositories09:01
KNateis it only 3.6kb?09:02
PollywogI have multiverse and universe enabled09:02
KNatebecause i clicked download and thats all i got09:02
Pollywogor is mythtv in some non-standard one?09:02
LynoureKNate: yes, patches are small, usually09:02
Pollywog!mythtv > pollywog09:03
Im_the_ONEPollywog: allow the others too :)09:03
KNateok patch is on desktop, whats next, install alsa drivers?09:03
Pollywogoh that's it, I am missing some09:03
Pollywogthanks09:03
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LynoureKNate: then you need the source... pity I do not know what version that patch was for. Looks a bit like the development version09:05
KNate2.6 somthing arather09:06
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LynoureKNate: actually, you could also try on #ubuntu, as your problem is not kubuntu only and there is way more people there.09:06
KNatethey all ignore you ther09:07
LynoureKNate: or ever #alsa09:07
KNateoo, ill  try there09:07
PollywogKNate: just don't go to #debian to ask ubuntu questions :)09:07
Im_the_ONElol09:08
LynourePollywog: actually, they could still help him with this.09:08
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Im_the_ONEdont go to debian to make any question :)09:08
Pollywogdon't even say anything that ends in buntu09:08
LynoureThey are similar enough.09:08
Im_the_ONEthey dont even help you with debian questions lol09:08
LynoureIm_the_ONE: has helped me.09:08
Pollywogyes they are but they don't like to answer ubuntu questions09:08
Pollywogit is even in the topic there I think "this is not #ubuntu"09:09
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MrBougohello!09:09
MrBougohow can i only see the packages from one source with adept?09:09
Im_the_ONEsome help, some are just stupid :D09:09
MrBougoi want to see only the packages fron the kubuntu CD09:10
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Im_the_ONEMrBougo: comment the lines on /etc/apt/sources.list and leave only the cd option09:10
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MrBougoi'll try this, thank you! :)09:11
Pollywogokay what if I am missing most of what goes into a sources.list in Feisty?  I have forgotten where to get it09:11
PollywogI know there is a way to get it I have forgotten it09:12
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Im_the_ONEtype "sources.list generator" on google09:12
Pollywogthanks09:12
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Jucato!source-o-matic09:13
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:13
Im_the_ONEi miss the apt-setup tool :)09:13
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LynoureKNate: I messeged you with a summary, I hope it helps.09:14
Im_the_ONELynoure: how do i apply a patch?09:14
LynoureIm_the_ONE: you? You have that problem too?09:15
Im_the_ONELynoure: no, just curious, never did that09:15
LynoureIm_the_ONE: it's googlable :)09:15
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Im_the_ONE:(09:15
LynoureIm_the_ONE: the two obvious words, try it...09:15
Im_the_ONEthought it was easier than that :D09:15
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LynoureIm_the_ONE: it is, a oneliner. But it's good to learn to look things up...09:16
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Im_the_ONELynoure: im not in the mood right now :P hehe09:17
LynoureIm_the_ONE: I can never remember that is has < and not > anyway09:17
LynoureI'm never in the right mood to google for grownups =)09:17
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Im_the_ONEim a kinda lazy09:18
Im_the_ONE:(09:18
LynoureIm_the_ONE: That's one of the reasons why I kinda quit doing support. That and namecalling, upsetness when things are not easy and "I did it my way and now it does not work and it is all your fault"09:18
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Im_the_ONEI got it, but i think its nice to help, and the try is worth it09:20
Im_the_ONEmaybe not professionaly :P09:20
PollywogI have been using Linux for almost 10 yrs and I am still green09:21
Im_the_ONEPollywog: then u never really used it :P09:21
Pollywog:)09:21
Im_the_ONEi like linux because i learn how to configure some services/servers09:22
Im_the_ONEotherwise i would never use it, lol09:22
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KNatehow do you cd to the desktop09:23
Pollywogwhen I started, Linux was very particular about who it would play with09:23
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LynoureIm_the_ONE: it's nice to help as long as it is nice, indeed.09:23
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Im_the_ONEKNate: cd /home/*USER/Desktop09:23
KNatelynoire said he would only help me if i gave him $50009:24
Im_the_ONELynoure: if you know how to help, i dont think its a problem :P09:24
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Im_the_ONEKNate: lol, give me a laptop and i learn a way how to help you :D09:24
angeldarkholmehi guys....any of you have ever used vmware to run an existing windows partition on a virtual machine?09:24
LynoureKNate: I did not!09:25
LynoureKNate: you evil liar :(09:25
MrBougoangeldarkholme, never09:25
angeldarkholmeI have all the configuration files needed but i keep receiving the same error09:25
Im_the_ONEwindows partition? format it!09:25
Im_the_ONEkidding :D09:25
MrBougoyou should join some vmware channel instead :)09:25
angeldarkholmefile not found: windows vmdk09:25
LynoureKNate: I am not allowed to keep my own clients, my contract forbids it. So I can only do this for fun.09:25
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Im_the_ONELynoure: even if its a charity? lol09:26
angeldarkholmeI cant...unfortunatelly i need it to develop for windows CE09:26
LynoureKNate: and right now, hungry, tired and wondering when I'll go to see my mother in the hospital, it is not fun09:26
PollywogLynoure: you work for a certain company in a certain Redmond?09:26
LynoureKNate: I messaged you with summary, take it or leave it but do not go telling lies about me09:26
Im_the_ONEKNate: you couldnt load the module or what?09:26
LynourePollywog: no, for a small company that is very focused on it's people and hoping the same from them.09:27
Pollywogoic09:27
Im_the_ONEi work on Apple09:27
MrBougowhat does that kubuntu logo in the adept manager mean?09:27
Im_the_ONEthat u are running kubuntu distro09:28
Im_the_ONE:D09:28
MrBougoam i? i didnt know!09:28
MrBougoseriously :p09:28
MrBougoon some lines next to the packet's name09:28
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MrBougothere's a little kubuntu logo09:28
JucatoMrBougo: it indicates packages in the main and restricted repositories. the supported packages09:28
Im_the_ONEits kubuntus version? :)09:29
MrBougooh ok :)09:29
KNatelol it was a joke man09:29
MrBougoKNate, i answered to Jucato's message :p09:30
angeldarkholmethere's a lot of people in the vmware chanel....and everybody is sleeping09:30
angeldarkholmelol09:30
MrBougonot to Im_the_ONE's09:30
Im_the_ONEKNate: now he doesnt want to help you anymore :D09:30
LynoureKNate: It's a joke that could get me fired if my boss was gullible. I have no longer any urge to help you, so good luck.09:30
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MrBougoangeldarkholme, wake them up >:D09:30
Im_the_ONELynoure: is your boss a maniac?09:31
Jucatoangeldarkholme: or wait for them to wake up... :)09:31
donYa?09:31
Jucatohm... let's keep discussions here workplace-safe, ok?09:31
Im_the_ONEno porn stuff? :(09:32
LynoureIm_the_ONE: no, but my contract excludes working in the field of IT for other people and I have 2 months of test period left. No, she is luckily not gullible, but I still do not value the joke.09:32
angeldarkholmeim gonna sleep09:32
angeldarkholmehave a nice night guys09:32
Im_the_ONELynoure: you need to relax. :D09:32
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JucatoIm_the_ONE: specially that. none of those in here09:32
MrBougoangeldarkholme, like the guys on the vmware chan?09:32
Jucatoangeldarkholme: and hope that when you wake up, they'll be awake too? :)09:33
LynoureIm_the_ONE: I was done with this some minutes back already09:33
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Im_the_ONEJucato: just kidding, sorry for my humor :(09:33
PollywogMrBougo: are you using VMware Workstation 6?09:33
MrBougoyup i am09:33
angeldarkholmeit depends on your concept of "nice night" for me for example a nice night would be playing billiard in a good bar with my friends09:33
angeldarkholmelol09:33
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Pollywognot the free version, the server, correct?09:34
PollywogI am running Workstation 609:34
Pollywogwhat seems to be the problem?09:34
Im_the_ONEnice night = doing nothing and doing everything you want09:34
angeldarkholmeso you run vmware?09:34
MrBougoWorkstation 609:34
MrBougonot player09:34
MrBougoi do, on windows09:34
MrBougonot on linux09:34
Pollywogoh09:34
Pollywogthen I do not know09:34
angeldarkholmemmm09:34
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angeldarkholmeanyway...maybe you can help me..09:34
PollywogI run it on Linux09:34
angeldarkholmeplease..I don't understand09:35
LynoureIm_the_ONE: the things I told KNate before the joke should be enough to get him through it, anyway :)09:35
MrBougoheh Pollywog i dont have any problem with vmware09:35
angeldarkholmewhy if i have all my configuration files and everything configured09:35
Pollywogk09:35
MrBougoangeldarkholme has, but i don't09:35
angeldarkholmewhen i try to turn the virtual machine on09:35
angeldarkholmeit says.09:35
Im_the_ONELynoure: is your boss on the chan? lol :D09:35
angeldarkholmewindows.vmdk not found09:35
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angeldarkholmeI can see windows.vmdk inside the directory!!!09:35
Im_the_ONELynoure: take it easy... :P09:35
LynoureIm_the_ONE: why are you going on about this?09:36
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Im_the_ONELynoure: ok, sorry :(09:36
KNateif i was linux savvy mabey, but i dont know whats going on :(09:36
Pollywogangeldarkholme: have you renamed any of the files in ~/vmware ?09:36
angeldarkholmeno09:36
LynoureIm_the_ONE: if you want to help him, I can message you with the same things.09:36
Im_the_ONEi would, if i knew how :P09:37
Pollywogangeldarkholme: you are running Workstation 6 on Feisty?09:37
donI would like to see him get his sound09:37
Im_the_ONELynoure: i was just kidding, but sorry anyway :)09:37
angeldarkholmeyes09:37
Pollywogwas it ever working?09:38
KNatehow do you browse your hdd09:38
KNateas stupid as it sounds09:38
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keUhm?09:38
LynoureIm_the_ONE: messaged you anyway, in case you want to try. :)09:38
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angeldarkholmei looks like it works...but it always asks for that file09:39
angeldarkholmei don't know why...09:39
angeldarkholmeI have been stuck in the same problem for days09:39
Pollywogit is odd that it is asking for a file of that name if you did not rename anything09:39
angeldarkholme:S09:39
ardchoilleKNate: ALT+F2, type in:  kfmclient exec /path    (where /path can be any path such as /home/username)09:39
LynoureKNate: you can do that with Konqueror, just press the Home button09:39
Pollywogdid you download a VM from someplace?09:39
angeldarkholmewhat happens if you rename something?09:39
angeldarkholmeyes09:40
sercik!multimedia09:40
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications09:40
Pollywogtry to open it with VMware player09:40
PollywogI think the problem might be the version of VMware that created the VM is different from what you are using09:41
angeldarkholmebut I already tried09:41
KNateso my hdd, is basicly home, where are all the /usr and other folders kept09:41
angeldarkholmei downloaded the files from here09:41
angeldarkholmehttp://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Windows_Instalation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html09:41
LynoureKNate: no, but you can press Up button to get there, or edit location to /09:42
PollywogI wonder if some file was renamed when you downloaded it09:42
LynoureKNate: or just do  cd /   on the command line09:42
ardchoilleKNate: Your hdd is the entire file system. The root of the system is "/". Your personal files are in /home/username09:42
Pollywogangeldarkholme: did you use Automatix?09:43
Pollywogangeldarkholme: stay away from Automatix09:43
Im_the_ONEi need to sleep :-(09:43
KNateoooooooh i get it how, so its like / is C;drive and /home/nate is /documents and settings09:43
angeldarkholmeno...09:44
angeldarkholmei don't use i09:44
angeldarkholmeit09:44
Im_the_ONEi hate to sleep09:44
ardchoilleKNate: You can say that, yes09:44
angeldarkholmei saw that the log files09:44
angeldarkholmefrom vmware said this:09:44
angeldarkholme(The file specified is not a virtual disk)09:44
angeldarkholmefor windows.vmdk09:44
angeldarkholmei know it's not a virtual disk09:44
angeldarkholmebut...it is a configuration file..09:45
angeldarkholmehow can I make it understand it?09:45
Pollywogangeldarkholme: so did you convert a Windows partition into a virtual machine?  I did not know you could do that09:45
angeldarkholmeyes it is possible09:45
angeldarkholmeyou have to set up09:45
angeldarkholmethe sectors of the disk that you are using in your windows partition and so on09:45
angeldarkholmeit's interesting stuff09:45
angeldarkholmenow everything is configured but i cant make it load09:46
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Pollywogmaybe there is a forum for that type of thing09:46
PollywogI looked around there and did not find anything09:47
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angeldarkholmeyes...now im going to sleep.....09:47
Pollywogme too09:47
angeldarkholmeit's sad to have to sleep09:47
angeldarkholmefucking body09:47
angeldarkholmelol09:47
Pollywog!ohmy09:47
angeldarkholmesleep is boring09:47
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:47
angeldarkholme:|09:47
angeldarkholmeok "#$"$ body09:48
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donWhat is happening KNate?09:48
bahrThis may sound stupid, but if I want to play with source code in KDE apps, and try to make patches etc., am I then forced to download the source code at each apps homepage name, or is the source code already on my system in some directory unknown to me?09:48
angeldarkholme:O nice question09:48
angeldarkholmei think you need to download the source code09:49
Jucatobahr: apt-get source <package_name> (no sudo)09:49
Jucatoit will download the related source code for that package.09:49
Im_the_ONEto sleep is for weaks09:49
bahrJucato: Thank you :) Where will it be stored?09:49
Jucatotake note, though, that while a KDE app has a separate binary package, it might be part of a whole module when it comes to source code09:50
Jucatobahr: the current directory where you ran the command09:50
bahrJucato: Oh ok, but well I want to begin helping and play around making patches, but I really don't know which programs to get to start playing around with the source code ...09:50
Jucatofor example, say you want to download the source code for umbrello but umbrello's source code is part of the kdesdk module, so apt-get source umbrello will download the source code for the whole kdesdk module09:51
Jucato!packaging | bahr09:51
ubotubahr: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports09:51
bahrGreat thank you09:52
Im_the_ONEnice :)09:52
Jucatobahr: while patches are fine, submitting debdiffs for testing seems to be preferred. more info in #ubuntu-motu09:52
Im_the_ONEi love to program on C09:52
bahrJucato: I have no experience with it at all, I'm just looking at some starting point, and was recommended yesterday to play around with small things first in apps that seem to annoy me09:53
Jucatomost (maybe all) KDE apps use C++ though09:53
bahrSo I just want the applications, so that I can do that, it will probably last some time before I make an official real patch :)09:53
Jucatogood luck :)09:53
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bahrthank you09:53
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bahrlol09:54
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bahrHm I actually like Konqueror a lot more than my beloved Firefox :P09:58
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KNatewhat is wrong here, why wont it copy10:00
KNatenate@natious:/usr/src/alsa$ cp /home/nate/downloads/alsa/alsa-*10:00
KNatecp: missing destination file operand after `/home/nate/downloads/alsa/alsa-*'10:00
KNateTry `cp --help' for more information.10:00
KNatenate@natious:/usr/src/alsa$10:00
KNate10:00
Jucatolike the error said, you are missing a destination file/directory10:00
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KNatewhere tho10:01
KNatewhat should i type, im trying to copy the alsa driver to /usr/src/alsa10:01
Jucatothe syntax is: cp <source> <destination>10:02
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Jucatoyou only have the source part10:02
KNateand the file is in home/nate/downloads/alsa/alsagile10:02
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Jucatosince you are already in /usr/src/alsa, the <destination> would be . (dot, meaning "this"/current directory)10:02
KNateoh, so i missed the dot10:02
Jucatoof course you will need to use sudo10:02
Jucatobut I'm not sure if that's recommended10:03
KNateomg this shits me10:03
KNatewhy wont it just work10:03
Jucatolet me guess, it's giving you "Permission denied"?10:04
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MrBougobye10:05
Jucatobye10:05
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MrBougohave a nice day :)10:05
MrBougopart10:05
MrBougooops10:05
MrBougoforgot the "/"10:05
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bahr!mp310:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:07
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epimethgmorning10:08
Jucatomoin epimeth10:08
ardchoilleJucato: Nice post today :)10:08
epimethpost?10:09
Jucatoheh thanks :)10:09
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Jucatoblog post10:10
epimethwhere is this alleged blog?10:10
_6StringKng_could someone recommend some cool games for linux?10:10
Jucatoon Planet Ubuntu10:10
Jucato!games | _6StringKng_10:10
ubotu_6StringKng_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org10:10
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bahrI love bots :D10:11
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epimethheh... cute.  somehow I thought you were mid/south american, not philipino10:18
Jucato:P10:19
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guillermoi question!10:37
guillermoDo i need an antivirus using kubuntu? is there any available?10:37
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alexandreguillermo there is some aviables.. but... you don't need it... but if you want one.. in kde-apps.org should there be some of them...10:40
K_user!antivirus10:42
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus10:42
Iwonder|tooklamav is cool10:42
Iwonder|tookde front end to clamav10:43
Jucato!virus | guillermo10:43
ubotuguillermo: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2110:43
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ahmedhi10:43
ionim trying to run GNOME-RDP and its saying ERROR cannot access database10:43
ionhow do I fix that10:44
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epimethdoes anybody have divx player working in firefox?10:46
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Iwonder|tooepimeth: mplayer won't play them?10:50
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epimethnope... telling me I need a plugin10:51
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epimethtrying the mediaplayerconnectivity add-on10:52
Iwonder|toogot a link?10:52
Iwonder|tooi'll see if mine works,so far everything i've tried has10:52
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CugelI use that all the time, perfect extension.10:52
epimethhttp://www.watchvids6.com/view.php?vid=123729910:52
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Cugel(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/446)10:53
keypadCan some one help me out with my tv capture card ?10:53
guillermothet file about virus in linux was interesting10:54
Iwonder|tookeypad: what card10:54
keypadIts a Play TV Pro10:54
guillermowhat about logging in to my internetbank10:54
Iwonder|tooguillermo: really makes windows suck more,eh?10:54
guillermothat is secure aswell i guess10:54
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epimethhrm... mplayer isn't playing divx I guess... maybe I'm missing the codec?10:54
guillermoi have been using kubuntu for 2 days, and i dont think i am going back to windiows10:55
keypadIwonder|too: I was wraped when I found my tvcapture card that was not supported in vista worked in linux10:55
Iwonder|tooguillermo: as secure as the encryption used10:55
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keypadIwonder|too: Its just that the composite in is black and white.10:55
keypadand thats my only use for that card.10:56
keypadit works but I get no colour out of any video mode I use10:57
keypadpal ntsc10:57
Iwonder|tooepimeth: nope mine fails says use mplayer10:57
keypadI think I need PAL-B or something10:57
hyper_chis there already a gutsy iso available?10:58
alexandreguillermo: Obviosly ;)10:58
guillermothen i have to go and pay some bills =)10:58
alexandrelol10:58
Iwonder|tookeypad: what are you using to cature with?10:58
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keypadIwonder|too: TV Time10:59
felix_Hi, I want to access audio cds with konqueror on my freshly installed Kubuntu Feisty Fawn, but it says that I have insufficient rights. Can you tell me in which groups the user has to be?10:59
henri_hey, does somenone know how to tell power manager not to auto-suspend when ktorrent is running?10:59
Iwonder|toohave you tried xine?10:59
keypadIwonder|too: no10:59
Iwonder|toofelix_: audio10:59
felix_wonder: I am in audio, this is the weird issue, and I can play them with amarok11:00
keypadIwonder|too: trying now.11:00
nodesert_whenever i restart my computer i need to reconfigure my kopete.i think the problem is about kwallet11:00
nodesert_can somebody help me about this11:00
Iwonder|tookeypad: xine-ui should have multi-format tuner support with a bunch of settings11:00
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felix_wonder: but i can't rip the cds11:00
K_userguillermo : yeah (k)unbuntu is good :)11:00
Iwonder|toofelix_: rip or copy?11:01
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Iwonder|toomounting a audio cd is goofy,by nature linux won't11:01
henri_hey, does somenone know how to tell power manager not to auto-suspend when ktorrent is running?11:01
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Iwonder|toohenri_: temporary disable it?11:02
Jucatofelix_: playing audio cd's and ripping them to mp3 or ogg are 2 different things11:02
alexandreK_user: Kubuntu is better than Ubuntu too XDD11:02
Jucato!ripping | felix_11:02
ubotufelix_: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh11:02
felix_wonder: well, I don't know the exact difference between rip and copy, I just want to have the tracks on my hdd. I do not understand why I can play them with amarok11:02
Iwonder|tooor cron tab to check for a torrent pid and key click,like kaffeine does11:02
felix_ubotu: I know, but it says me I do not have the rights to do so11:02
Jucatofelix_: ubotu is a bot11:02
MrBougolol11:03
felix_I just learned that :)11:03
Jucatofelix_: check the link that the bot gave. it has instructions11:03
K_useralexandre : I guess it depends on your pref - I use KDE (Kubuntu)11:03
felix_ok, I will checkt the link, thank you!11:03
keypadIwonder|too: do you mean gxine ?11:03
henri_|wonder|too: yes, that works but it would be cool if it was automatic thing... :-)11:04
Iwonder|tooshould work,i use xine-ui11:04
alexandreK_user I know that.. but.. programs.. in KDE has not alternative... Amarok... vs Listen? such as example..xD11:04
keypadIwonder|too: I cant find any video capture settings11:04
epimeth!codec11:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:04
alexandretalking about.. all things.. anyonw know.. when will CompComm go out?11:05
Iwonder|tookeypad: it might not,wasn't thinking,i did xine-ui as source,it may be different than binary gxine11:05
keypadIwonder|too: ok ill look through adept installer now.11:05
epimethgrrrr... didn't have w32codecs installed11:06
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epimethI'll bbl.. gonna go eat11:06
Iwonder|tooapt-cache search xine11:06
epimethlet you know if that fixes it, too!11:06
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Iwonder|tooi have win32 codecs and it didn;t play11:06
_6StringKng_how do you cd to a folder with 2 words in the name?  can't remember how11:07
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_6StringKng_what didn't play?11:07
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Iwonder|tootab completion is best11:07
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bayeri have a problem with apt-get - i'm trying to install the lates kde4, but i think it causes trouble because i had an older version of kde4 installed. now it complains "trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/solidfakenetbackend/fakenetworking.xml', which is also in package kde4libs-data"11:07
keypadIwonder|too: Cant find it :(11:07
Iwonder|tooa video online epimeth was trying11:07
_6StringKng_ah11:07
_6StringKng_anyone know the answer to ym question then...11:08
_6StringKng_my*11:08
Iwonder|tookeypad:  it may not be there,as i sometimes use sources11:08
Jucato_6StringKng_: just start typing the first few letters of the folder name then press Tab11:08
Jucato_6StringKng_: it will autocomplete the name.11:08
_6StringKng_ah11:08
Iwonder|too_6StringKng_: tab complete it or \ for space11:08
Jucatoor if you want, you can do: first\ second11:08
Jucatoor "first second"11:08
Iwonder|tooas in Program\ Files11:09
JucatoO.o11:09
bayerhas anyone got an idea to solve that problem?11:09
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keypadIwonder|too: so im screwed : (11:10
neutronHi11:10
|Wiz|Any tips for a good filemanager except Konq?11:10
Iwonder|tookeypad:  probably not ,check the forum of all distros,i'm sure other have the issue11:10
Lynourebayer: remove the old one first if it gives you trouble. You do have kde3 to fall back on anyway, right?11:11
Jucato|Wiz|: tried Krusader?11:11
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Iwonder|tooi thought kde4 was still alpha11:11
LynoureIwonder|too: it is11:11
Jucato|Wiz|: there's also Dolphin, but the KDE 3 version is so far behind the KDE 4 version11:11
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|Wiz|Jucato: I can't seem to find the package for it even though it's supposed to be in the rep.11:11
bayerLynoure, yes i have, but apt-get won't let me do anything as long as this problem exists. i even can't remove the conflicting package11:11
pynsahi folks11:11
Jucato!info krusader | |Wiz|11:11
ubotu|wiz|: krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.80.0~beta1-1 (feisty), package size 2982 kB, installed size 8324 kB11:11
Jucato|Wiz|: make sure you have "universe" enabled in your repositories (should be enabled by default)11:12
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|Wiz|Ah, thnx Jucato, I'll double check that it's enabled and I'll give Krusader a try11:12
bayeris there a way to get apt-get back into a consistent state?11:13
pynsasince the update to 7.04 i have a huge usb issue: when i boot my laptop with my usb mouse plugged in it wont work, i have to boot with no usb device plugged in and connect the mouse when the computer has finished booting.11:13
nodesert_i think there is something in kubuntu like gadgets in vista11:13
nodesert_what were they?11:13
pynsasuperkaramba is like gadgets11:13
Skrot-SuperKaramba11:13
bayernodesert_, i guess you mean compiz11:13
pynsabayer: try apt-get -f install11:14
|Wiz|pynsa: hade you tried lsusb and see if it comes up there?11:14
Jucato!superkaramba | nodesert_11:14
ubotunodesert_: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org11:14
pynsa|Wiz|: yes, lsusb shows nothing11:14
pynsai mean no mouse11:14
bayerpynsa, this results in the error above11:14
Lynourebayer: see http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Repairing_apt-get_database , add sudo where needed.11:15
Lynourebayer: You are aware that KDE4 is recommended for developers only and far from being stable?11:15
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bayerLynoure, yes11:16
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|Wiz|pynsa: There is no chance that you've changed something in BIOS so that's disabled there?11:16
bayerLynoure, i just wanted to see how far they are11:16
NiceGuyUKIs it possible to navigate up and down the messages list in KMail using the cursor keys?11:16
bayerLynoure, i know it's still alpha11:16
keypadIwonder|too: is there any other alternatives  ?11:16
Lynourebayer: there is a livecd for that, I think11:16
Iwonder|tooxwatv11:16
pynsa|Wiz|: no, i changed nothing in the bios11:16
Iwonder|toobut that source also11:17
keypad!xine11:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:17
NiceGuyUK!kmail11:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:17
Lynourebayer: much safer way. http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/11:17
NiceGuyUK!kontact11:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kontact - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:17
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|Wiz|pynsa: there is a bug reported @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/8476211:18
bayerLynoure, i didn't think it would cause a problem during install, as is is announced on the kubuntu website11:18
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Lynourebayer: there is a reason why website says it is for developers only. :) Seen some people break their kde3 in the process.11:20
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bayerLynoure, great, the --force-overwrite did the trick!11:21
MrBougobye11:21
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bayerLynoure, i'm not stupid.11:22
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NiceGuyUKI am - I installed Vista on one of my machines11:23
nodesert_ubotu: i found ,it was gkrellm11:23
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Iwonder|toogkrellm is sweet,plugins are nice and easy to configure,wish superkaramba was likewise11:24
NiceGuyUKyeah, hand-editing files and needing Python knowledge slows you down11:25
NiceGuyUKSuperKaramba is more eye-candy than gkrellm though11:26
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Iwonder|toodunno gkrellm with tranparent skins is aweful pretty11:26
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NiceGuyUKand without its pretty awful :P11:27
NiceGuyUKin fairness to the author(s) though, functionally its very good11:28
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Iwonder|tooyeah its ugly out of the box11:29
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NiceGuyUK!rules11:31
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines11:31
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MementoMorihi all11:32
MementoMoriI cant get my wireless card working on a feisty11:32
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MementoMorithe card is a 88w8335 [Libertas] 11:33
NiceGuyUK!wireless11:33
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:33
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NiceGuyUKwonder what chipset that uses11:33
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MementoMoriI'm trying to use this card with ndiswrapper and many different win driver11:33
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ompaulmanchicken_, I thought you were going to change your nick ;-)11:34
blackdiamond_hi guys..I have a problem with a disinstallation..could you help me..? last day i installed avast antivirus, but a lot of people suggest me not to use it..now i try to remove it but i can't..not in the konsole and not with adopt..what i have to do?11:34
MementoMoriI used mrv8000 mrv8335 and netgear11:34
NiceGuyUKdid you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v311:35
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MementoMorievery driver loads well with ndiswrapper and I can see wlan name in knetworkmanager but I cant associate to the lan11:35
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bahrIs there another pdf viewer for Kubuntu which can highlight text and make notes? It doesn't seem that kpdf is able to do that?11:36
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blackdiamond_when i try to remove that pacake using konsole it said "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"11:36
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NiceGuyUKbahr: Adobe do a linux version of their one if you don't mind running propietary software11:36
MementoMoriNiceGuyUK: I'll try also this guide11:36
MementoMorithanks11:36
NiceGuyUKk11:36
blackdiamond_someone can gently help me?11:37
bahrNiceGuyUK: I would prefer not, but if that's the only one, then I guess I need to use it :/11:37
NiceGuyUKblackdiamond_: you may have another package manager open (adept, apt or something) - you can only use one at a time11:37
Jucatobahr: the next version of kpdf, named okular, will be able to do those things... but it's still for KDE 4...11:37
NiceGuyUKbahr: maybe evince (the gnome one) supports it?11:37
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Jucato!adeptfix | blackdiamond_11:37
ubotublackdiamond_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:37
bahrAh how nice. Just another reason for looking forward to KDE4 realease11:38
NiceGuyUKbahr: I went for pragmatism over principles and just installed Adobe ;-)11:38
blackdiamond_yeah!!! now it works..thank you very very mich uboto!11:39
blackdiamond_your great!11:39
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NiceGuyUKubotu is an automated response, not a person ;)11:39
blackdiamond_are you jocking me?11:39
blackdiamond_really?11:39
NiceGuyUKyup11:39
NiceGuyUK!ubotu11:40
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:40
=== esben_ like uboto anyway.
blackdiamond_ahah cool11:40
NiceGuyUKme too, takes me back to the days of writing eggdrop scripts in tcl :)11:40
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K_useralexandre : was away from computer - Yep really I like it. Kubuntu package is very impressive!11:41
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NiceGuyUKIs it possible to navigate up and down the messages list in KMail using the cursor keys?11:42
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zzsputnikwhen i run DVB-T with Kaffeine it stalls really bad and there is no sound11:48
NiceGuyUKnever mind, found it out now - uses left and right instead of up and down!11:48
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K_userNiceGuyUK : Kmail - thanks I was waiting 4 that answer too :)11:50
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NiceGuyUKK_user: yeah, I answer difficult questions, and ask easy ones ;)11:50
MrBougo:p11:51
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NiceGuyUK!dvb11:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:54
NiceGuyUK!dvb-t11:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvb-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:54
NiceGuyUKme neither :(11:54
_4strO!codecs | zzsputnik11:54
ubotuzzsputnik: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:54
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MrDigimonlemme guess, uboto is a bot?11:55
NiceGuyUKyup11:55
MrDigimonhard to figure out =P11:55
donya but a cool bot11:56
MrBougo!hello11:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:56
NiceGuyUK!ubotu | MrDigimon11:56
MrBougo:(11:56
ubotuMrDigimon: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:56
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MrDigimonall-knowing? about computers i guess but not all-knowing of anything outside that topic11:57
chxI installed Feisty but the installed system doesn't boot as it does not find the CF card I installed on -- builtin for laptop, worked absolutely fine w/ installer. It however finds a full speed USB device which is... not present.11:57
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felix_I identified the problem on the audio cds: I have insufficient rights to read from an audiocd - even as root. I do not understand this11:57
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NiceGuyUKchx: probably cos the bootloader hasn't got the necessary drivers for CF loaded.11:58
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nate__helllooo11:59
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nate__HELLLO OUT THERE12:01
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MrDigimonecho: HELLLO OUT THERE.....OUT THERE.....THERE....E..12:03
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nate__hey12:03
NiceGuyUK!trolls12:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trolls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:03
hyper_chwhere is the "read receipt" option in kmail/kontact? I can't find it12:03
nate__!Assholes12:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about assholes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:04
nate__can somone help me build and install a pkg12:04
MrDigimon!bellends12:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bellends - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:04
Jucatodon't play with the bot12:04
MrDigimonwhat sort of pack?12:04
Jucato!packaging | nate__12:04
ubotunate__: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports12:04
nate__well im a freeking newb and suck, but12:04
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nate__to get my sound working, some said i need to newsest alsa driver and to patch it, after about 3hrs i did it12:05
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nate__and now thats where im at, someone else said i need to build it into a pkg so i can install it?12:05
NiceGuyUKhyper_ch: under Composing, something about automatic disposition notifications12:05
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kaukxnate,./configure !12:06
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lerneaen_hydrais there a known problem with the h264 opensource codec?12:06
nate__i just do that in the DIR, and it will make a pkg?12:06
lerneaen_hydraas in corrupt frames showing12:07
hyper_chNiceGuyUK: ok, I found that... but where can I disable that I send my notifications out to others?12:07
lerneaen_hydratypically with a green (00FF00) overlay12:07
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NiceGuyUKlerneaen_hydra: not that I know of. I use it all the time without problems12:07
kaukxforget to put smile,:Di dont get your problem,nate12:07
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NiceGuyUKhyper_ch: doesn't it prompt you ?12:07
nate__ok i did that, it scrolled up like 50things now what12:08
hyper_chNiceGuyUK: nope... it sends them12:08
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lerneaen_hydraNiceGuyUK: hmm, funny. vlc manages to play it without issues but the system's codec can't12:08
hyper_chNiceGuyUK: I had it set at one stage but I guess I've lost that setting somehow... and I can't find it anymore12:08
K_user!parental control12:08
NiceGuyUKlerneaen_hydra: I use it more for encoding that decoding to be honest (via ffmpeg)12:09
MrDigimondoes anyone know how to konfigure my sound card?ive got one built in and one pci ive just added but the sound keeps switching from the built in to the pci and the pci to the built in12:09
lerneaen_hydrahmm ok12:09
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keypadhow do I run .sh files again  ?12:10
hyper_chkeypad: sh file.sh12:10
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hyper_chkeypad: or if it is executable ./file.sh12:11
keypadI did both of those.12:11
keypadIts asking for a input file.12:11
lerneaen_hydraNiceGuyUK: which media player do you use?12:12
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keypadgot it.12:13
hyper_chNiceGuyUK: I found it... it is deactivated... but whenever I read mail on the server (IMAP) it will send the notification.... hmmm...12:13
ajusno sound with gaim on feisty.... while other apps sounds well.. help please12:14
NiceGuyUKlerneaen_hydra: mostly vlc. my h264 encoding is targetted for my PSP though12:14
lerneaen_hydraNiceGuyUK: hmm, ok, it seems to be a kaffeine/xine related issue after some research12:15
hyper_chbtw, is it normal through vnc that if video is being played on the remote computer that only a blue screen appears in krdc?12:15
NiceGuyUKhyper_ch: yup12:15
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NiceGuyUKhyper_ch: remote desktop apps seldom transmit low level video overlays12:16
hyper_chNiceGuyUK: just wasn't sure if I installed all codecs on my mom's computer :)12:16
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Meglo_I'm going to start a company for speeding ticket insurance. :|12:17
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ajusmy gaim has no sound... help pls12:18
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KillMebye..12:20
KillMei'm off12:20
KillMedead12:20
KillMecruel world...12:20
KillMebye12:20
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NiceGuyUK!gaim12:21
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.12:21
MrDigimonwhich codec should i install so i can watch wmv with MPlayer?12:21
NiceGuyUK!codecs12:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:21
NiceGuyUKits in the restricted formats12:22
NiceGuyUK!codecbuddy12:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codecbuddy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:22
NiceGuyUKhmm12:22
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janne_hello! I use mostly Opera as my browser but it is annoying that flash does not work with it... suggestions how to fix this?!?12:23
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keypadcan some one help me get my tv capture card working12:24
keypadI nstalled xine-ui12:24
keypad*installed.12:24
MrBougobye12:24
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K_userjanne_ have u installed flash?12:26
NiceGuyUK!marillat12:27
ubotumarillat is a repository created for Debian. Please don't use it on Ubuntu. Consider using !seveas or !plf12:27
NiceGuyUK!plf12:27
ubotuThe Penguin Liberation Front is dedicated to distributing software that cannot be included in Linux distributions for various reasons - See http://plf.zarb.org/ (not yet fully functioning) - See also !Medibuntu and !Seveas12:27
NiceGuyUKMrDigimon: check the above message from ubotu ;)12:28
MrDigimonPenguin Liberation Front :D12:28
NiceGuyUKplf and medibuntu repositories have the w32codecs package which should sort out wmv for you12:28
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MrDigimonive found a pack that i think will help me with the codecs12:28
MrDigimonat least i think so12:29
K_user janne_  : have u installed flash?12:29
MrDigimongstreamer ffmpeg video plugin12:29
NiceGuyUK!w32codecs12:29
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs12:29
MrDigimonchecking it12:30
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noiesmo!medibuntu12:30
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/12:30
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hatem_hello every 1 :)12:31
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hatem_this is ma first time i am using linux and i loved it :)12:32
MrDigimontry to get more ppl to use it =)12:32
hatem_actually i am working as microsoft MBS spec. but that's what i call os :D12:32
hatem_ya sure kubuntu is amazing lol :d i am gonna tell ma customers about it hehe :d and sure ma familly :d12:33
NiceGuyUKhatem_: I even got my mother and gf running Ubuntu now :-) Less time for me cleaning up their viruses and spyware ;)12:33
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hatem_lol yah sure :) but i guess if there is advanced retail applications on dat would be more than amazing :D12:34
MrDigimoneveryone her where i live is against linux, they all use windows only for the games (and get a bunch viruses too)12:34
NiceGuyUKwho needs retail apps?  most of the time there is a free equivalent to do the same job12:35
NiceGuyUKand for games, I use a PS2 and a PSP :D12:35
hatem_the only thing  that make people buy windows at buissn. is the buissn. applications microsoft use12:35
NiceGuyUKsuch as ?12:35
MrDigimonim more of a nintendo fan but i have an PSP12:35
NiceGuyUKPornstation Portable :->12:35
NiceGuyUKmovies on the go12:36
hatem_something like retail mang/ system in the front and back as axapta12:36
K_userNiceGuyUK : I'm putting my bro on kubuntu - virus/spyware cleanup is annoying me too :(12:36
hatem_by the way guys microsoft just buy that applications lol microsoft got no application made by them :d12:36
MrDigimoni had to format all of our computers all the time12:36
NiceGuyUKK_user: there's a tshirt now that says "No I will not fix your computer - Use Linux!" :D12:36
hatem_rms, gp, ax, navition, all dat :d12:36
MrDigimonmust buy that shirt :D12:36
K_userNiceGuyUK : I like it - where can u get them :)12:37
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NiceGuyUKTshirt : http://info.cafepress.com/cgi-bin10/DM/y/nbVR0Ku61z0MX40BRFO0ES12:37
NiceGuyUKbrowse aroudn to find more similar ones12:38
MrDigimonmust send that site to every one i know, thx for telling us12:39
NiceGuyUKno probs12:39
lbawinownsWhat dog seriously have a t-shirt that says "I won't fix your computer again" :p?12:40
NiceGuyUKrofl12:40
NiceGuyUKgood point12:40
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MrDigimoni always fix my friends computers :)12:40
lbawinownsHehe, nice site anyway, but I'm not that much of a linux fan :D /leaves/12:40
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MrDigimoni have fixed my best friends comp 'bout 5 times12:42
MrDigimonit gets annoying after awhile :P12:42
K_userMrDigimon : twice is more than enough.12:43
MrDigimonlemme guess, noones intrested in that?12:43
MrDigimonyepp12:43
K_userMrDigimon : why do it - give then the option of linux.12:44
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K_userMrDigimon : i assume the r using ms12:44
K_userthey12:45
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MrDigimonthey dont want linux 'cause "We cant play any games on that"12:45
nate__oh i just cant get the sound working12:45
nate__im going to explode12:45
K_userMrDigimon : what games?12:45
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nate__can you get different sound cards for laptops12:45
K_userMrDigimon : in any case why is that your prob?12:46
MrDigimonSims 2, WoW and a bunch of games like that12:46
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K_userMrDigimon: can they be played undr wine?12:46
MementoMorihow can I force ndiswrapper kernel module to be loaded at startup?12:47
MrDigimondont think so but u can play them if u install Windows with QEMU12:48
MrDigimonu can play WoW with wine12:48
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mad_goldfishhmmm. Think I've managed to bork my konqueror :-( It won't start, and there's no errors if I run it from a shell, it just hangs. :-( was working a couple of hours ago until I played a video (I tried the embedded MPlayer and xine but neither worked, and then it crashed)12:49
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MrDigimontried to kill anything that uses konqueror with ps -ax ?12:50
MrDigimonor anything thats named konquror12:50
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mad_goldfishDoes logging out and back in count? I made sure there weren't any konqueror processes left after I logged back in, but it still won't load. Neither will kaffeine.12:52
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MrDigimontried to restart?12:53
mad_goldfishRestarted X. 2 secs, I'll try a full thing...12:54
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MrDigimon*annoying silent*12:57
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serciki have enabled transparency but i see nothing different12:59
dark_Remote Desktop Connection12:59
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sercikis it necessary some program to have trasparent window??12:59
clementyep12:59
sercikhi clement: speqk with ne?01:00
dark_i want use Remote Desktop connect to windows2003 server the connection string is ip:3389?01:00
chris_scummettegot some problemes with mp01:00
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chris_scummettemp01:01
chris_scummette301:01
chris_scummettelol01:01
sercikscummette seems an italian word!01:01
chris_scummettelol01:01
sercikare you italian??01:02
sercikscummette = scommette = he bet, she bet01:02
chris_scummettenope french01:02
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sercikchris_scummette: what do you need about mp3?01:03
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chris_scummetteha ok01:04
chris_scummettescum = bad guy in english01:04
chris_scummettesercik01:04
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chris_scummettema amarok refuses to play them and i cant even install the mp 3support01:04
sercikdo you have dapper or edgy??01:04
chris_scummettemy adept dont run too!01:04
chris_scummettefeisty , you lose!01:05
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chris_scummettelol01:05
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SlimeyPeteadept sucks... use synaptic ;)01:05
chris_scummettecant even load it01:05
SlimeyPeteyou can't load synaptic?01:06
MrDigimonor u could use  aptitude01:06
chris_scummetteaptitude says adept is alrready running01:06
chris_scummettebut i ran nothing01:06
SlimeyPete"killall -9 adept", then try again ;)01:06
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chris_scummetteno process killed01:07
chris_scummetteim new to linux thats maybe why i getting troubles01:07
SlimeyPetethere's a lock file somewhere. (maybe in /var/lock/apt? I can't remember) which you might have to remove01:07
chris_scummetteim also getting trouble to lgin as a root01:08
chris_scummetteguess im a total noob01:08
chris_scummettebut i still managed to install that USB modem01:08
sercikchris_scummette: ubuntu doesn't have a root account01:08
chris_scummettesu01:08
MrDigimonuse the su01:08
sercikif you want to run root command you need to use the command sudo!!01:08
sercikno01:08
chris_scummetteokay01:09
MrDigimonsudo su01:09
chris_scummette;)01:09
serciksu don't work01:09
MrDigimonsudo su01:09
sercikMrDigimon: wait a minute01:09
MrDigimon?01:09
chris_scummetteHAAAAAAAAAA!01:09
chris_scummetteal(ight01:09
chris_scummettenow imlogged!01:09
sercikwhen you launch adept he asks for a password you need to enter user password01:09
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sercikthe password with which you login01:09
MrDigimontook me a week to figure the sudo su out01:10
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chris_scummetteyes01:10
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sercikif you want to be root01:10
AaronCNwhere can I config auto-join channel?01:10
chris_scummettebut it says its alrezady running01:10
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sercikyou can do sudo -i01:10
chris_scummetteAaronCN: that good old IRC commands01:11
chris_scummette;)01:11
sercikchris_scummette: now we try another approach! what do you need to do??01:11
jlarssoncan anyone help me in kubuntu 6.06 to get dual nbotscrens beetwen windows and kubuntu, PM ME01:11
chris_scummettei need to play mp3 with amarok01:11
chris_scummetteand it dont want to install the support01:11
MrDigimondont u get amarok working?01:11
sercikand why do you speak about adept??01:11
chris_scummetteand my adept refuses to reinstall amaraok01:11
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chris_scummetteadept installer01:12
chris_scummettemanager01:12
chris_scummettesorry01:12
sercik!multimedia > chris_scummette01:12
sercik!multimedia01:12
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications01:12
sercikjlarsson: have you installed windows before kubuntu??01:12
jlarssonyep01:13
AaronCNchris_scummette: I also wish auto-join would be a command. :) Konversation is quite good, need to spend some time to make some configuration. :)01:13
sercikwindows overwrite mbr01:13
sercikwhich windows do you have?01:13
sercikxp?01:13
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chris_scummette!register01:14
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration01:14
yanntechhi ;)01:14
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sercikjlarsson: search on internet on how to start linux using wondows xp boot manager01:15
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chris_scummettenow i got the files to install01:16
chris_scummettewhat command should i write in the terminal?01:16
dark_i can't connect windows 3389 port why?01:17
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sercikdark_: this is a windows problem01:17
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dark_but i can connect from my windows xp01:18
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MrDigimondoes it exist any linux version of autoit v3 (write windows scripts in linux)01:21
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MrDigimon!autoit01:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autoit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:25
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MrDigimonguess not01:25
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jlarssonCan someone help me again to get a bootscreen in kubuntu betwen kubuntu and linux ?01:27
jlarssonkubuntu and windows i mean *!01:28
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tapashmm, is the kde4 beta avaiable in kubuntu?01:29
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SlimeyPeteI didn't think there was one, yet? I thought it was still in alpha. In which case, I doubt it's available.01:29
jlarssonHELP ?!01:29
SlimeyPeteyou mean the boot menu?01:30
SlimeyPeteyou need to get into Linux and use grub-install01:30
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jlarssonI-n-e-e-d h-e-l-p01:30
seishinbyouGood evening01:30
SlimeyPetejlarsson: I just gave you help.01:30
seishinbyouby boot screen do you mean splash screen01:30
seishinbyoui.e. that grub-background thing01:31
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jlarssonhow do i use grub install01:31
SlimeyPetejlarsson: oyu need to get into Linux using a recovery CD, then configure your GRUB files and run grub-install against your hard disk.01:31
SlimeyPeteI have to go to lunch now - if you google for tutorials on configuring GRUB, you should find a few that will help.01:32
jlarssoninstall it over again `01:32
jlarsson?01:32
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jlarssoni put me orifinal kubuntu cd in the cd driver ? and then what?01:32
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chris_scummettewhy are my downloads "stalled" in k torrent01:35
jlarssonzxcgas01:35
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guillermoi need some help01:35
guillermo"the utility unrar is not in yuor path"01:36
guillermoit cames up when I try to unpack a .rar file i just downloadaded (last episode of lost)01:36
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AaronCNchris_scummette: that's also my question. :(01:43
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sercikguillermo: is simple you don't have unrar installed or the executable is not in PATH01:44
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mad_goldfis1Ah, cool. Works now, much better, thanks :-) Somehow that even fixed the annoying behaviour the kaffeine got infected with, trying to populate its playlist with my entire filesystem on startup.01:46
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hoangdoes someone know such program has the same functions as Total Commander?01:47
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FOADhoang: krusader01:47
sercikmidnight commander01:47
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guillermothe utility unrar is not in your PATH what to do?01:47
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sercikguillermo: do you know that is path??01:47
user_590hi all01:48
guillermono the wildest idea01:48
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sercikPATH is a variable that contain a list of path in which to search for a program01:48
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hoangsorry, I'm a noob in OSS world01:49
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sercikfor example if you have an executable in PATH you can simply give the name01:49
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sercikor if not you need to change directory in which the executable is01:49
sercikand then execute it01:49
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tangervuHi!01:50
sercikor you can do the full path for example /usr/local/bin/programname01:50
sercikbut i think that you have not installed unrar01:50
guillermobut i dont even know where unrar is?01:50
guillermoi did isntall via adept now and ark opened the file01:50
tangervuJust asking that is there some problems with the current apache2.2-common package?01:50
sercikif you want to find a file you can use the command find -iname nomefile01:50
sercikit will search in all subdirectories so you need to run that command from / directory to be sure that all hd be scanned01:51
serciki go to lunch i will return01:51
tangervuI tried to do complete reinstallation of apache but for some reason it doesn't install all the needed files into  /etc/apache201:51
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tangervuFor example /etc/apache2/mods-available is completely empty and the apache2.conf -file is missing too01:52
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user_590"Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device" - what is it ? (((01:52
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tangervu7.04 is the version for kubuntu...01:53
user_590people :)01:53
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madciao01:55
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wsjuniorhi fellows! after hibernating my laptop screen doesnt come back. is it a know problem?01:59
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NiceGuyUK!laptops02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about laptops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
NiceGuyUK!laptop02:03
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org02:03
NiceGuyUK!hibernate02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
NiceGuyUK!hibernating02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hibernating - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
NiceGuyUKoh well, worth a try02:03
tangervu!apache202:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
tangervu!apache02:03
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)02:03
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guillermowhat is the command to see your hardware?02:05
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NiceGuyUKdepends what you want to see02:06
guillermowhat graphic card i got02:06
tangervu!fcgi02:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fcgi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:06
NiceGuyUKtry lspci02:06
sercikHi NiceGuyUK, also if i prefer girl....02:06
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sercikguillermo: do you need help? Have you solved your problem?02:07
NiceGuyUKheh, I been using that nick on IRC for about 8 years - too lazy to change it02:07
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sercikyes but seems strange to me call a guy "nice"02:08
MrDigimondoes anyone know how to konfigure mplayer so the new codecs work?02:08
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NiceGuyUKwell, I'm not nasty, so I gotta be nice.02:08
sercikdo you want to play proprietary formats??02:09
sercikprobably you need to install w32codecs02:09
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MrDigimoni have the codecs but how do i configure it?02:09
serciklaunch mplayer for a console so you can see errors messages02:09
sercikit is not necessary to configure02:10
sercikmplayer search in a specific folder in which w32codecs are...02:10
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JucatoMrDigimon: no need to configure. once installed, codecs should work automatically. what media format are you trying to play?02:10
sercikhi Jucato02:11
sercikhow do you do?02:11
Jucatohi sercik02:11
Jucatoum... sick actually. but otherwise ok :)02:11
serciksorry!02:11
MrDigimonIm trying to play wmv02:11
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sercikMrDigimon: launch mplayer from a konsole the try to plat wmv02:12
Jucatosercik: no worries :)02:12
sercikMrDigimon: you can also try vlc program02:12
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serciksudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin*02:12
JucatoMrDigimon: you have w32codecs installed right? how are you trying to play it?02:13
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MrDigimonright-klicking/open with/mplayer02:13
Jucatoah...02:14
Jucatotry playing it in amarok or kaffeine?02:14
sercikMrDigimon: i have told you to launch mplayer from konsole02:14
sercikthe try to play that file02:14
MrDigimonok, will try02:14
sercikso you can see output messages02:14
sercikJucato: do you rhink that amarok support wmv??02:15
Jucatoof course :)02:15
Jucatowith the right codec (w32codecs)02:15
sercikand he uses xine??02:15
sercikit uses xine??02:15
Jucatoamarok and kaffeine use xine by default on Kubuntu02:15
Jucatoactually, amarok can only use xine for the time being02:15
serciki know about keffeine bun not about amarok02:15
Jucatoeasy to check. Configure Amarok ->Engines :)02:16
sercikyes i have already seen :)02:16
Jucatothere was a time when Amarok could use gstreamer also. but kinda changed02:16
sercikyou are right!!!02:16
MrDigimonit works from konsole but the colours ar a bit crapy02:16
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sercikMrDigimon: launch gmplayer from konsole02:16
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FOADSince yesterday, whenever I boot into kde, after a few minutes almost all applications segfault when I try to start them.  The same does not happen with gnome, so I think it's not a hardware problem.  Any ideas what could cause this?  (Right after booting I can run everything fine.)02:17
cinzutosalve a tutti02:17
Jucatogmplayer?02:17
cinzutoposso chiedere un aiuto?02:17
sercikgmplayer is the right executable mplayer is a text program02:18
MrDigimonthe same thing as before: crappy colours and fullscreen02:18
p-cassocinzuto: do you speak english?02:18
sercikcinzuto qui parlano solo inglese ;=02:18
sercik:)02:18
p-cassocinzuto: my italian is not the best...erm it's null :)02:18
cinzutosercik allora posso parlare con te02:18
Jucato!it | cinzuto02:18
ubotucinzuto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:18
cinzuto?02:18
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sercikcan cinzuto speak in italin with me??02:18
sercikcinzuto parla se qualcuno si lamenta ci spostiamo02:19
cinzutook02:19
sercikanzi parliamo in privato02:19
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manu__hi02:21
manu__i wanted to know the hardware which is minimum for kubuntu to run it with an acceptable speed02:21
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manu__does it run on a 430mhz cpu or an 600mhz?02:22
manu__main aim is office work02:22
FOADMore specifically, it appears that it's exclusively gnome apps that start segfaulting.02:25
FOADBut again, not straightaway, it takes a few minutes.02:25
p-cassomanu__: look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(Linux_distribution)#System_requirements02:25
snikkercan i choose what packages i can install, with "debootstrap" command?02:25
p-cassomanu__: it claims 256 MB RAM are enough02:26
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MrDigimonwhoa, i tried a different movie and the whole shit froze (had to restart X)02:27
Jucatomanu__: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php Scroll down to "Requirements"02:27
p-cassoHi everyone, I have a smal question/problem on a xorg dual screen setup. Is there anyone available who could help me with this?02:27
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sercikMrDigimon: i don't know what tell.. you can try another software "vlc"02:29
manu__Jucato: hm and about the cpu? there is only ram mentioned, i nat to have an acceptable speed02:29
MrDigimonok, heard of it....02:29
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JucatoMrDigimon: um.. are you on a 32-bit or 64-bit system?02:29
manu__430mhz?02:29
Jucatohm.. not really sure02:30
EdijusLiveCan I use WinModem with Kubuntu? Can I see windows files with this OS?02:30
MrDigimonno idea jucato02:30
MrDigimondont remember02:30
JucatoMrDigimon: what's your processor? AMD64 or something?02:30
NiceGuyUKMrDigimon: do uname -a to check :-)02:30
Jucatobecause the w32codecs don't work on 64-bit systems...02:30
MrDigimonpentium 3 650mhz02:30
p-cassoEdijusLive: Windows Files shouldn't be the problem02:30
Jucatoah no biggie then02:30
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p-cassoEdijusLive: but you cannot write on NTFS02:31
Jucato!modem | EdijusLive02:31
ubotuEdijusLive: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto02:31
EdijusLivep-casso, why I can't?02:31
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NiceGuyUKp-casso: you can if you use ntfs-3g :)02:31
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse02:31
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ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions02:32
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p-cassoEdijusLive: As far as I know the vendor of Windows does not want this02:32
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p-cassoNiceGuyUK: is that thing stable?02:33
p-cassocool, didn't know that02:33
MrDigimonbut if u are able of playing avi, mov shouldnt u be able to play wmv?02:33
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NiceGuyUKp-casso: stable enough to get in the repositories now :)02:34
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SlimeyPeteMrDigimon: eh? They're totally different.02:34
JucatoMrDigimon: no. different codecs :)02:34
p-cassoNiceGuyUK: the only thing I knew was this capture-ntfs thing02:34
NiceGuyUKMrDigimon: wmv definitely works under vlc with codecs installed - its what I use02:34
MrDigimonjust wondering, dads comp could play anything directly from the beginning02:35
NiceGuyUKp-casso: kubuntu helps you learn new things daily :)02:35
Jucatop-casso: ntfs-3g has released a stable version (1.0). and of course, MS doesn't want you doing this, so it's a reverse engineering kind of thing I think02:35
MrDigimonhe had some sort of debian and installed kde later while i had kubuntu02:35
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p-cassoNiceGuyUK: I know, I know. Switched to kubuntu a few weeks ago, coming from debian. Great thing...really02:36
EdijusLiveWhat is Kubuntu intsllation requiments?02:36
p-cassoI have a litte question about an dual screen setup, though. Is there anybody who can help me with? I had not much luck searching the forums02:37
NiceGuyUK!xinerama02:37
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead02:37
NiceGuyUKthat help?02:37
MrDigimoni just tried vlc i can hear the sound but nothing else02:37
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p-cassoNiceGuyUK: thanks, I got the setup working in a night of hacking. radeon driver, MergedFB. The only problem I have: I don't want to restart X when I take the laptop with me. Is there any possibility?02:38
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p-cassoNiceGuyUK: I have also a xinerama setup, which worked but without dri. That led me to the mergedFB option of my radeon card02:39
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ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama02:39
NiceGuyUKp-casso: not sure, I don't have that setup, but sounds unlikely, since you're changing the hardware X is expecting02:39
p-cassoI expected this *sigh*02:40
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NiceGuyUKwhy is restarting X a problem? it only takes a few secs02:40
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p-cassoWell, the apps have to load. That takes time. firefox, Eterm, kmail, konqueror02:41
MrDigimondidnt they rename firefox to iceweasel?02:42
NiceGuyUKah, I see02:42
p-cassoI have to move the kicker to screen 1 also manually02:42
NiceGuyUKMrDigimon: only in Debian02:42
MrDigimonok02:42
NiceGuyUKMrDigimon: cos Debian made changes that Mozilla Foundation didn't like and refused to let them call it FireFox02:42
NiceGuyUKsilly politics again02:42
MrDigimonof course02:42
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MrDigimonbut its still the same :D02:43
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MrDigimonwhat did they change whit firefox when they had to get another name?02:46
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NiceGuyUKnot sure, thats a job for Google ;)02:46
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bahrAm I the only one having trouble to access Gmail with Konqueror?02:47
MrDigimonbut Linux is always gonna be better than windows (at least for me)02:47
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HymnToLifedepends which Linux02:48
MrDigimonthay are nearly the same all of them, its only different things that are installed02:48
AFaithbahr: i can open Gmail with Konqueror, but i cannot acces all those good features, because Konqueror it's not a supported browser :)02:48
AFaithbtw, hello people :)02:48
robert_lg'day all02:49
HymnToLifeMrDigimon, how many of them did you try out to say that ?02:49
MrDigimontried knoppix, (K)ubuntu, Debian and some that i dont remember02:49
HymnToLifeyou try Slackware and tell me if it's "nearlt the same" :p02:50
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MrDigimonhmm, maybe i must think about if they are all the same =P02:50
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MrDigimonthey have their own style but they are all from the same from the beginning02:51
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NiceGuyUKLinux is the same - its the bundled apps and environment that differ.02:51
NiceGuyUKOne kernel to rule them all!02:51
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NiceGuyUKDistro != Linux02:52
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MrDigimonthats facinating, 1 kernel to all the different02:52
MrDigimonversions02:52
HymnToLifeyep, but the kernel is just one tiny bit, really02:52
NiceGuyUKexactly02:52
NiceGuyUKits the distros that differ02:52
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HymnToLifein the way they ork, distros like Slackware and Debian for example have very little in common02:53
MrDigimonwasnt the guy who wrote the kernel from finland?02:53
NiceGuyUKyep02:53
robert_lhmmm, lots of lines of code for 'just one tiny bit' though ...02:53
MrDigimoni live in Finland02:53
HymnToLiferobert__, compared to everything else, yes02:53
NiceGuyUKthats why Debian refer to GNU/Linux02:53
HymnToLifehow many lines of code do you thing there is in gcc for example ?02:53
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HymnToLifethink02:54
MrDigimonumm, good question =P02:54
robert_l817202:54
NiceGuyUKtry multiplying up by at least 100002:54
robert_lok, bad guess by me  :)02:55
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MrDigimon9'000'000?02:55
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HymnToLifeso my point is, with all the distros out there, lots of them are just as bad as win02:55
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HymnToLifeboth technically and philosophically02:55
NiceGuyUKecample : Debian 2.2 contains more than 55 million lines of code02:55
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MrDigimonumm, who wants to read it? =)02:56
robert_lhate to debug that then02:56
robert_lisn't a good or bad distro relative to what a user wants from it?02:56
HymnToLifecertainly02:57
MrDigimonbut linux is from finland from the beginning so i guess thats why im using it, and theres no viruses02:57
HymnToLifeok, "distros that _I_ think are bad"02:57
HymnToLifebetter ? :p02:57
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robert_lnot being picky, just wondering why so many distros - so many parallel developers - some with little in common except the kernal02:58
NiceGuyUKcos everyone thinks they know better :P02:58
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HymnToLifeyou just said it, because people want different thing from them02:59
MrDigimona little thing i noticed, how many of u speak swedish?02:59
NiceGuyUKeven Windows has stolen our idea - Vista Standard, Vista Pro, Vista Ultimate.  So many distros!02:59
NiceGuyUK;-)02:59
HymnToLifethey stole it from Manrdriva02:59
robert_lisnt that a patent infringement ????02:59
seishinbyouVista was a great advertisement for Linux03:00
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NiceGuyUKI have a Vista machine - for the purpose of seeing just how bad it is03:00
NiceGuyUK(and for comedy value!)03:00
robert_l:)03:00
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MrDigimon:)03:00
HymnToLifeI'd never install Vista on one of my machines03:01
HymnToLifethey did nothing to deserve that03:01
NiceGuyUKlol03:01
NiceGuyUKby day I run a support team in a software company that is purely MS03:01
korobase!disk03:01
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter03:01
NiceGuyUK(but I support people on #kubuntu while I'm at work :-P )03:01
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HymnToLifekorobase, when checking factoids for yourself, please msg the bot in privatez03:02
NiceGuyUKreally? thats the rule?03:02
robert_lwife's boxen has vista home - wouldn't let her print emails because 'it was unsafe' - had to trawl the forums to see how to disable that,and the annoying 'security' popups03:02
seishinbyouI use VMWare to run the custom apps I need at work and that's it, but even some of those are moving to web-based solutions03:02
HymnToLifenot really a _rule_ but what's the point in doing it on the public channel ?03:02
NiceGuyUKknowledge sharing?  I had a question earlier that someone else said "I was waiting for the answer to that too"03:03
NiceGuyUKtis useful sometimes03:03
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korobaseseishinbyou:Where can I find the VMware?03:03
HymnToLifeasking a question is different from just firing up a !factoid :p03:03
HymnToLifekorobase, vmware.com03:03
NiceGuyUKI guess03:04
HymnToLifenot too surprisingly :p03:04
korobaseIt's a free software?03:04
seishinbyouvmware is available as a trial (the player is still free I think)03:04
HymnToLifefree as in beer03:04
NiceGuyUKit is now, for personal use03:04
seishinbyouThe workstation is only free for 30 days03:04
HymnToLifenot free as in freedom03:04
seishinbyoubut they did have a beta period where you could register as a developer and get a free license03:04
seishinbyouhence I still have it03:04
seishinbyouIt's great, though.  Snapshots features ftw03:04
HymnToLifevmware server is free without limit03:05
seishinbyouHow is qemu shaping us these days, anyways?03:05
HymnToLifedunno, been a while since I last checked it out03:05
seishinbyouI'll have to try it out again, the accelerated kqemu wasn't working last time I tried it03:06
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MrDigimonbut have anyone of u had the same problem as me when installin xp with qemu, it stops when its installing devices...03:06
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robert_lno, just had problem of xp stops ......03:07
robert_lwhen running xp03:08
korobaseWhat is the diff between the vmware server and Workstation?03:08
MrDigimonwonder why it stops at devices for me then....03:08
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NiceGuyUKlol03:09
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Jucatokorobase: workstation is not free (you have to pay) and more supported. it gets newer features than either server or player03:09
seishinbyoukorobase: http://kontrawize.blogs.com/kontrawize/2006/03/vmware_server_v.html03:09
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NiceGuyUKMrDigimon wonders about someting, then Iwonder|too joins03:09
NiceGuyUKamusing :)03:10
HymnToLifeJucato, true but server has always done the job for me03:10
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JucatoHymnToLife: true. I was just answering his query :)03:10
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korobaseCan I install a OS using the Server as well as the Workstation?03:11
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HymnToLifeyes03:11
Jucatooh btw, I think workstation has something in beta that will let your guest OS use hardware 3d acceleration03:11
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robert_lc(_)  found that free beer03:15
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seishinbyouFree beer?  That reminds me, when is the next Tokyo Linux meeting...03:15
JucatoO.o03:15
seishinbyouJune 8th :(03:15
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seishinbyouLinux meetings in Tokyo are usually lots of drinking and complaining about how Japanese managers try to push Windows for everything03:16
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NiceGuyUKits not just a Japan thing ;)03:16
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seishinbyouYeah, just a language difference, really :)03:16
NiceGuyUKI used to go to Linux meetings in London03:16
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stanleyhi guys...i'm trying to play a vcd, n i think i installed every codec known to man03:17
stanleybut i can;t get it to play03:17
stanleycan someone help me out please??03:17
manu__is it possible to send a video file to video device video0?03:17
manu__so it would be possible to send a video via webcam?03:17
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manu__instead of using the cam on this device?03:17
korobaseIn the /etc/fstab.What is the UUID means?03:17
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korobaseI want to mount a disk part and write it to the fstab.03:18
Jucato!uuid | korobase03:18
ubotukorobase: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)03:18
korobaseHow to write a UUID.03:18
NiceGuyUKkorobase: Universally Unique Identifier03:18
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Jucatokorobase: you don't need to. you can just use the regular /dev way if you want03:19
stanleyguys help me out please...i need to see this vcd to do a presentation03:19
stanleyi've installed every codec i can find03:19
Jucatoor you can use System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Disks & Filesystems03:19
stanleybut i can't get it to play03:19
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ulrichwhich media player do u use?03:19
NiceGuyUKstanley: what are you using to try and play it, and what error do you get?03:19
korobaseBut May characters can't be show correctly.03:19
chris_scummettenormal vcds can be viewed in some dvd players on your tv usually03:20
stanleyi have used totem, real player, and kaffeine03:20
korobaseIt use the Chinese gbk character set.03:20
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ulrichtry vlc media player03:20
chris_scummetteyep vlc runs almost everything03:20
NiceGuyUKulrich: thats what I was gonna say too :)03:20
stanleykaffeine just kicks out03:20
Jucatokorobase: I think you have to use the correct mount options for that. I'm not familiar with that though. sorry03:20
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stanleyreal player just stops03:20
chris_scummettereal player just sucks03:21
stanleyn totem says it needs new plugins03:21
ulrichyea then try vlc media player03:21
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stanleyvlc03:21
stanleyok03:21
stanleythanx03:21
chris_scummetteyes vlc03:21
NiceGuyUK!vlc | stanley03:21
ubotustanley: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs03:21
chris_scummetteno need for codecs or stuff like that03:21
ulrichuse the adept installer easiest way03:21
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chris_scummettecan someone help me with adept manager03:21
chris_scummetteans/od amule too03:22
stanleyok thanx03:22
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chris_scummettei must copy some skin in the usr/share, but it says that i havent got the riht to do that03:23
chris_scummettehow do i take this right?03:23
NiceGuyUKuse sudo in front of the command03:24
chris_scummettei try to do it via the GUI03:24
chris_scummettewhats the command?03:24
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NiceGuyUKsudo sudo cp blah.blah /usr/share03:24
chris_scummettesudo upkg ...03:24
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chris_scummetteok03:25
NiceGuyUKerm, without the extra sudo lol03:25
chris_scummettelol03:25
chris_scummetteright03:25
muadany suggestions on an ftp program? server, not client03:26
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scheurihi everyone03:27
NiceGuyUKmuad : ProFTPd03:27
seishinbyouI juse install sshd and use sftp for that stuff.  Don't like to much around in ftp03:27
HymnToLifemuad, vsftpd03:27
MGramEr her nogle fra DK?03:28
HymnToLife!dk03:28
ubotuFor at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.03:28
scheurianyone experience "weird" things with kmail/kontact in kubuntu 7.04....when I reply to a message my cursor is at the bottom and when I forward a message there is no quioting whatsoever even if the template is on03:28
muadhave to check a few of those out, thanks03:28
NiceGuyUKHymnToLife: vsftpd better than ProFtpd?03:29
HymnToLifeimo, yes03:29
scheuriseishinbyou: well, ftp is much faster if you have a lot to transfer....but...well it is plaintext03:29
NiceGuyUKHymnToLife: in what ways?03:29
scheuriNiceGuyUK: imho, yes it is...more secure03:29
hyper_chany squid pros here?03:29
HymnToLifebut I must admit I didn't use pro* much03:29
seishinbyoutrue, but I never usually have *that* much to transfer03:29
NiceGuyUKok, may check it out too03:30
muadssh going to allow windows machines access as well, correct?03:30
HymnToLifeNiceGuyUK, more secure, essentially03:30
scheuriseishinbyou: well, then sshd (scp, sftp) is just fine...03:30
HymnToLife(vs stands for Very Secure :p)03:30
seishinbyouworks for me03:30
scheurimuad: from windows to linux with ssh is fine....03:30
seishinbyouWhen I had to transfer some files from my Win box to Linux, I set up sshd on Kubuntu and used WinSCP to transfer a bunch 'o' files03:31
seishinbyouNice when my laptop lacks certain things03:31
muadhm03:31
NiceGuyUKwhat? no telnet to port 21? :P03:31
scheuriindeed03:31
seishinbyoulike a CD drive or working  USB ports :(03:31
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HymnToLifeI use FileZilla for that, very good FTP client and has SSH support too :p03:31
scheuriNiceGuyUK: well...you think you are funny...have you checked Cisco lately? they still use telnet...;)03:31
muadwas just about to ask if FZ could handle ssh03:32
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NiceGuyUKscheuri: *shudder*03:32
HymnToLifewell, it can :p03:32
scheurimuad: for windows you may also use WinSCP (for file transfer) or putty (shell)...or actually ftp...:)03:32
scheurianyone familiar with kmail and its templates for forwarding messages and stuff03:33
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muadwell, only one final left so i need to find a project before i start working again, looks like this'll keep me busy.03:33
muadis there a guide for any of these? sshd? vsftpd? proftpd?03:35
muadi've no experience in these matters03:35
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scheuriI am too stupid....03:36
scheuri*shakes head*03:36
seishinbyousshd I installed with03:36
seishinbyousudo apt-get install openssh-server03:36
seishinbyou(if my mind is working tonight)03:36
scheuriseishinbyou: that looks good to me03:36
scheuribut use aptitude instead of apt-get03:36
muadthere's another question i've been meaning to ask, whats the difference between aptitude and apt-get?03:37
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NiceGuyUKmuad: aptitude is better at handling dependencies if you uninstall03:37
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scheurimuad: NiceGuyUK was faster than me...;)03:38
muadheh03:38
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scheurimuad: he was basically right...aptitude has some more other features, too...however, you do not need them all the time...03:38
scheurimuad: there was a good website around explaining it...but...can't find it now...arrrr03:39
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Jucatohttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude03:39
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MrDigimonhave anyone noticed the minesweaper game in aptitude?03:40
chris_scummettei got sime problemes running adept manager03:41
MrDigimonhow come03:42
NiceGuyUKchris_scummette: what problems?03:42
chris_scummetteYou will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system03:42
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NiceGuyUKchris_scummette: close any other programs for managing software03:42
chris_scummetteok03:42
NiceGuyUK!adeptfix | chris_scummette03:42
ubotuchris_scummette: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:42
NiceGuyUKthat one too if the first idea fails03:43
muadanother question -lots this morning it seems- i want to uninstall kopete and replace it with the generic one so i can get the -dev files, any way to do this without apt wanting to remove kubuntu-desktop?03:43
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chris_scummettemay i answer yes or no03:43
chris_scummetteto this sript03:44
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MrDigimonscript?03:44
jthomasgood day!  I recently installed Xubuntu on a laptop, and I could choose to change the 'umount' command/button for flashdrives to 'sync && umount'... is this done automatically in Kubuntu, the sync part?03:45
chris_scummettelol ok03:45
chris_scummetteflash updtae had blocked it03:45
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scheurimuad: this wont be possible as kopete is part of kubuntu-desktop...however, do not worry, kubuntu-desktop is only a virtual package03:46
muadscheuri: ah-ha, that makes much more sense now, thanks.03:46
scheurimuad: it will leave everything the way it is (expect of removing kopete), but since you have kopete removed, the virtual package kubuntu-desktop is not complete anymore thus will be removed03:46
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muadscheuri: i get it, neat. never occured to me that it could be a virtual package.03:47
jthomasdoes Kubuntu's 'Safely Remove' a USB drive sync the drive first?03:48
scheurimuad: if you make an "aptitude search whateveryouwant" and you see a v at the start of a line...this indicates a virtual packages03:48
scheurijthomas: yes, it does03:48
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scheurijthomas: or at least it should03:48
jthomasscheuri: why is it not automatic in Xubuntu but yes in Kubuntu?03:49
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muadthe morning of learning lots of new things for me, been using linux for years and always finding more i don't know03:49
scheurijthomas: I am sorry, I can not answer this question...03:49
jthomasscheuri: thanks for the help!03:49
scheurijthomas: welcome03:49
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scheurijthomas: as a hint...I am doing ALWAYS a "sync" on the CLI when copying important files and then plugging the stick03:50
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MrDigimonmust leave now, mum is trying to rip out the RAM from my computer, Bye03:51
jthomasscheuri: i also do this, but it seems to remove some of the user friendlyness if it needs to be done, IMHO03:52
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scheurijthomas: sure it does...I am with you...however, I do not know why xubuntu does not do it by default...03:52
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jthomasscheuri: thanks for the help :)03:53
NiceGuyUKjthomas: cos Xubuntu hasn't had code written to support it, whereas KDE uses the KIO daemon03:53
stanleyhi ubotu...vlc didn't work03:53
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NiceGuyUKin both KDE and other OSes (win), its always recommended to use the "safely remove this device" thing03:54
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stanleyNiceGuy vlc didn't work03:54
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jthomasNiceGuyUK: of course one should safely remove.  But if its just a matter in Xubuntu of adding 'sync && ' before hand, wouldn't that be ideal, to sync the data first?03:54
NiceGuyUKstanley: hmmm, maybe its a duff VCD then - you tried it on Windows or on a DVD player connected to a TV ?03:54
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stanleywheni open vlc n choose to play the disc it doesnt show any video03:55
stanleyyea i have n it works fine03:55
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NiceGuyUKdoes it play sound?03:55
mercstahay wats happened to synaptic is it just a gnome thing or has it been taken out of ubuntu with feisty ?03:55
NiceGuyUKgnome thing03:55
NiceGuyUKsudo aptitude install synaptic if you miss it :)03:55
mercstalol dont miss it so much as feel more comfortable with it ;)03:56
NiceGuyUKstanley: if I remember correctly, VCD is MPEG based.  you got codecs for that?03:57
NiceGuyUK!mpeg03:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:57
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stanleyyepp03:58
stanleyi have every codec u can think of03:58
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epimethI feel I must share this with the world04:01
epimethhttp://bash.org/?74159604:01
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NiceGuyUKstanley: really sorry, not sure what else to suggest04:01
ulrichhow can i build a new folder ?04:02
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hyper_chepimeth: I like this site quite a bit... one feature less that's missing in Linux ^^ http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/04:02
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hyper_chulrich: just create one04:02
ulrichhow^^04:02
ulrichsorry im new to kubuntu04:03
ulrichrightclick new bla doesnt work on my extren hard drive04:03
stanleyok thanx anyway04:03
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sercikwhich program do you use to play vcd?04:04
chijinkaffeine04:04
hyper_chulrich: maybe an error message would be helpful :)04:04
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sercikulrich: you don't have permission to write on external hd04:05
sercikhd is ntfs04:05
sercik??04:05
scheuriepimeth: LOL04:05
epimethhyper_ch: meh....04:05
epimethscheuri: I swear I spat water on my screen04:05
hyper_chepimeth: have it installed already? ^^04:05
scheuriepimeth: well, there are some more quotes you spat the whole glass of water on the screen...yours was just the beginning...;)04:06
NiceGuyUK/clear04:07
epimethscheuri: yea... bashorg is usually pretty lame... but now and then there is an absolute gem04:07
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scheuriepimeth: indeed...04:08
epimethhyper_ch: "meh" means "its amusing, but definetly not <g> or lol - worthy04:08
NiceGuyUKepimeth: www.memetic.org04:08
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ulrichsercik: why dont i have the permission? im the root04:08
NiceGuyUKquote : "This is intended to be a less-redneck clone of bash.org"04:08
hyper_chepimeth: what made me laughing is that it has already been hacked ^^04:09
scheuriwell, thanks epimeth...I was looking for something like "meh"...;)04:09
sercikif the hd is ntfs.... toy have to mount it using ntfs-3g04:09
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hyper_chsercik: or use a real file system :)04:09
serciki'm not sure but probably this should be the problem04:09
scheuriheh04:09
sercikhyper_ch: sure you are right04:09
sercikalso fat32 is better than ntfs :)04:10
scheuriepimeth: oh wait...I had "heh" to show the same feeling like your "meh"....never mind...;)04:10
hyper_chmy usb-stick has fat3204:10
epimethtake that back!  fat32 is better than only two fs's:04:10
epimethfat1604:10
epimethfat804:10
hyper_chfat1?04:10
sercikepimeth: we are joking04:11
epimethI promise, miscrosoft has never stooped as low as to try and create a one bit fs04:11
epimeth:-)04:11
ulrichah okay thanks04:11
sercik|ntfs04:11
epimethulrich:04:11
sercik!ntfs04:11
epimeth!ntfs04:11
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:11
sercikulrich: read this04:11
epimethand specifically:04:11
epimeth!ntfs-3g04:11
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:11
NiceGuyUKits cooler to use Phat-32 :P04:11
epimethkeep in mind that after installing ntfs-config, you have to change the shortcut in the K-menu from gksu to kdesu as gksu does not exist in the defauly kubuntu installation04:12
hyper_chulrich: why do you want to write to a ntfs drive?04:13
sercikepimeth: it you need you cac n install gksu04:13
sercikbecause he want to use it to share woth the rest of the world.............04:13
ulrichi want to put some music to my external harddrive04:13
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hyper_chwhy not making it Ext3 and install the ext2/3 drivers in windows?04:14
ulrichuargh wait a second and let me read this ^^04:14
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hyper_chor use - as suggested - fat3204:14
sercikhyper_ch: not all people have ext3 driver installed04:14
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ulrichi dont know how to change this04:14
sercikhyper_ch: which driver do you use to read and write on ext3 from windows??04:14
Derminatorif somebody know somethong about soundproblems with ubuntu, please write me private a message04:15
ulrichi have no idea..04:15
hyper_chsercik: there are ext2/3 drivers for windows :)04:15
serciki konw04:15
sercikdo you use it? it works good?04:15
SlimeyPeteext2fs, isn't it? Or is that the old one...04:15
ulrichi didnt use any drivers for the harddrive04:15
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sercikext2fs can only read ext2/3 partition04:15
sercikbut to mount ext3 under windows??04:15
korobasemount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1,04:16
korobase       missing codepage or other error04:16
korobase       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try04:16
korobase       dmesg | tail  or so04:16
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korobaseHow to fix this?04:16
ulrichoh there it is the hard drive is vfat04:16
sercikkorobase i think that hdc is cdrom right??04:16
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Derminatorsorry, i not registred04:16
korobaseNo.It's my first disk part.04:16
korobasein my notebook.04:17
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sercikhow many hd do you have?04:17
SlimeyPetesercik: http://www.fs-driver.org/04:17
korobaseOne disk04:17
sercikthank you SlimeyPete04:17
sercikso you have installed bad because hdc is secondary master HD should be hda04:17
hyper_chsercik: http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext304:17
sercikhda = primary master04:18
ulrichwhat does mounting actually mean ?04:18
korobase[CODE]  /dev/hdc1 /media/hdc1    ext3     defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46                0       104:18
ulrichimean what does it change?04:18
korobasein my fstab.04:18
hyper_chulrich: mounting --> adding a partition/drive to a point in the file system04:18
hyper_chulrich: unlike windows with c: drive and d: drive and so on04:18
korobaseany one know what is wrong in my fstab.04:18
ulrichoh i see04:19
hyper_chlinux has one top level called root ("/") and every other devices is somewhere loaded in there04:19
sercikkorobase you are under linux??04:19
korobaseyes04:19
hyper_chmaking e.g. partition 5 or your primary harddisk availbe you could mount it in /media/hda504:19
sercikwith the same pc that you speak about?04:19
sercikulrich before use linux you must read some manual!!!04:20
hyper_chthen the contents will of that partition will be listed in that folder /media/hda504:20
hyper_chsercik: reading manuals is not a prerequisite for using linux04:20
hyper_chsercik: (but it helps)04:20
korobaseI am sure it's /dev/hdc1 because the kubuntu mount my Windows Part D as /dev/hdc5.04:20
sercikhyper_ch: please!! without reading you can't use linux04:20
sercikit is not possible always ask in chat04:20
hyper_chsercik: sure you can use linux without reading04:21
sercikat least the basis.....04:21
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sercikmount umount fstab init etc....04:21
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hyper_chif you get a pre-installed linux or if all your hardware is auto-detected... it's not that different for 80% of the users that just use some word processing, email and web-surfing04:21
ulrichyea thats why im reading the link one of u guys sent04:21
sercikyou are right but if you have a little problem04:22
mercstahi guys im thinking about replacing my ATI video card with an Nvidia card is it going to be an easy transition or should i just reinstall kubuntu ??04:22
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serciki'm here to help and also you but the people should also read to learn04:22
hyper_chsercik: same goes for windows... most people jsut have a working system and they just use office, email, internet... if they encounter a problem they have no clue either04:22
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ulrichokay so which filesystem do i have to have to be able to write on my ext hd?04:23
sercikhyper_ch: but if you want to use i suppose that you like pc and you are interested to it so you need to know much about it04:23
hyper_chmercsta: should be easy... you are on feisty?04:23
mercstayeah feisty04:23
sercikthe people that use pc only for web browsing and email don't know the potential of linux and can't love it04:24
hyper_chmercsta: on feisty it shouldn't be aproblem.... but I'd backup the xorg.conf first :) just to be sure04:24
hyper_chulrich: what do you want to do with your ext. hd?04:24
mercstaso if i shutdown the pc the swap cards then reboot i should have a working desktop still ??04:24
hyper_chsercik: understanding and just using a os are very different things :)04:24
korobasedrwxrwx--- is 755,right?04:24
hyper_chmercsta: not sure... I've never done it04:24
ulrichi want to write some music to it04:25
sercikok you have understood what i want to tell :)04:25
hyper_chmercsta: you may want to put back the xorg.conf first to "nv" before switchin04:25
llutzkorobase: 77004:25
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mercstalol ok mite save that for tommorrow nite then :P04:25
hyper_chulrich: and it shall be accessible from windows and linux=04:25
ulrichyes04:25
sercikhi to all i need to go away now see you soon04:25
hyper_chulrich: how big is the drive?04:25
ulrich80GB04:25
sercikhi hyper_ch it's a pleasure to speak with you!04:25
hyper_chsercik: same here :) bye :)04:26
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hyper_chcan fat32 handle 80gb?04:26
epimethack?!!?04:26
epimeth17:2604:26
epimethtime to run away from work04:26
epimethmuahahaha04:26
llutzhyper_ch: partitions or files?04:26
ulrichi think so atm its in fat3204:26
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hyper_chllutz: partitions04:26
llutzhyper_ch: it can04:26
scheuriepimeth: you are british?04:26
hyper_chulrich: the most convenient would be to format is as fat3204:26
ulrichit is04:27
hyper_chulrich: as neither windows nor linux has problems writing to it04:27
chris_scummettei got problems with a mule04:27
hyper_chulrich: so what is the problem then?04:27
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ulrich i cant create any folders in it04:27
hyper_chulrich: you know what pastebin is?04:27
ulrichDisk /dev/sdb: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes04:28
ulrich255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders04:28
ulrichUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes04:28
ulrich   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System04:28
ulrich/dev/sdb1               1        9728    78140128+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)04:28
ulrichis this correct?04:28
hyper_ch!pastebin | ulrich04:28
ubotuulrich: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:28
hyper_chulrich: you have to mount the drive first into the file system04:28
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ulrichok and how do i do this ?04:30
kuwangerI have a small problem with the upgrade process to Feisty Fawn.  I'm told I don't have enough free disk space on /boot, specifically that I need to free 36.5M.  My /boot is 31M big.04:30
ulrichu got any page where i can read about it ?04:30
hyper_ch!mount | ulrich04:30
ubotuulrich: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter04:30
hyper_ch!DiskMounter | ulrich04:31
ubotuulrich: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse04:31
chris_scummetteamuke anyon?04:31
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chris_scummetteamule04:31
korobaseI right now format a partition of my disk part 1.I find it's not the 20G other than 19.2G.why?04:31
ulrich!mount04:31
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter04:31
ulrich?04:31
korobaseWhere is the other 800M?04:31
chris_scummetteswap?04:31
chris_scummettelol04:32
korobaseext304:32
hyper_chulrich: do you have a terminal window open?04:32
kuwangerThe only reason I have /boot as a separate partition is because I remember there being a problem in the past with grub, where there could be the case where an unclean shutdown could cause an ext3 /boot to be unmountable as ext2 by grub.  Is this issue resolved?  If so, I can just move /boot to my main partition.04:32
ulrichyes i have04:32
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llutzkuwanger: imho you can safely move your /boot into /04:34
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knowpixal!04:34
llutzkuwanger: i havent had a /boot since ages, never had any problem so far04:34
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knowpixsalut04:34
kuwangerllutz: Well, that's good to hear.04:34
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hyper_chulrich: run:     sudo mkdir /media/fat3204:35
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ulrichokay and then ?04:36
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hyper_chulrich: sudo mount  -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/fat32 -o uid=1000 gid=100004:37
hyper_chI think that's it... not 100% sure04:38
hyper_chulrich: sudo mount  /dev/sdb1 /media/fat32 -t vfat -o uid=1000 gid=100004:38
ulrichokay04:39
ulrichsome text appears04:39
ulrichoh damn i need to go to the eye doc i cant read anything..04:39
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kuwangerllutz: Well, guess I'll just cross my fingers.04:40
hyper_chok, some text appearing means it's not correct :)04:40
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ulrichyea some info and some commands04:41
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hyper_chulrich: what info?04:41
ulrichlooks like an instruction how to mount04:41
hyper_ch!pastebin | ulrich04:42
ubotuulrich: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:42
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llutz ulrich: sudo mount  /dev/sdb1 /media/fat32 -t vfat -o uid=1000,gid=100004:42
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hyper_choh, forgot the comma :)04:42
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ulrichoh i see so now the ext HD is "connected" with the fat32 folder?04:44
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hyper_chulrich: well, it's mounted there :)04:45
ulrichfor what stands the uid=1000, gid= 1000 ?04:45
hyper_chulrich: that's your user and group id04:45
ulrichoh i see04:45
hyper_chin linux each file belongs to a certain user and certain group04:45
ulrichgreat thanks :D04:45
ulrichlooks like i have to read and larn a lot ^^04:46
hyper_chulrich: and the owner chan set permissions for the file... read write execute rights04:46
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hyper_chulrich: normally expressed like 075504:46
hyper_chulrich: or 064404:46
hyper_chulrich: depending on the rights04:46
hyper_ch!rwx04:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rwx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:46
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jakelightshelp please. what command do i use to fix my adept04:47
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crazyrobotjakelights: whats wrong with it?04:47
hyper_chulrich: and with the uid and gid (of your user) you make sure, that you can access the files correctly04:47
hyper_ch!permissions04:47
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux04:47
hyper_ch!permissions | ulrich04:48
ubotuulrich: please see above04:48
ulrich!permissions04:48
jakelightswhen i try to open it it says i cant do the changes04:48
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hyper_chjakelights: what's the exacte error message you get?04:48
crazyrobotjakelights: when you first open adept is it asking for a password to open it?04:48
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jakelightsYou will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.04:49
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hyper_chjakelights: there you already have the answer04:49
jakelightsi had a problem like this but somebody gave me a command to fix this, sorry im new to linux04:50
hyper_chhow many instances of adpet are you running?04:51
hyper_chjakelights: do you have synaptic open?04:51
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jakelightsonly one04:51
jakelightsnope04:51
hyper_chjakelights: are you running apt-get or aptitude from the command line?04:51
crazyrobotjakelights: in a terminal type 'sudo killall adept' and then try restarting it.04:51
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jakelightsadept: no process killed04:52
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spawn57do you have aptitude or dselect open?04:52
hyper_chjakelights: run this in a terminal:       ps aux | grep apt04:52
JuJuBeeHow do I tell kubuntu to display a list of users to select from for login rather than just a username and password input field?04:52
ulrichhyper_ch: how long do you use linux/kubuntu to know so much about it ?04:52
hyper_chulrich: I don't know much about it... I have a debian server running now for 2 years... but there's not much to do and I use *buntu now since august04:53
jakelightsit still the same04:54
ulrichi see04:54
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hyper_chjakelights: what does    ps aux | grep apt    return?04:54
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hyper_chulrich: I don't know really much about linux :)04:54
jakelightsps aux | grep apt04:55
jakelightsavahi     4902  0.0  0.2   2668  1396 ?        Ss   23:09   0:00 avahi-daemon: registering [jake-laptop.local] 04:55
jakelights1000      7851  1.5  4.0  61976 20824 ?        S    23:45   0:06 konversation -caption Konversation -icon konversation -miniicon konversation04:55
jakelights1000      7939  0.0  0.1   2884   768 pts/1    R+   23:52   0:00 grep apt04:55
spawn57hyper_ch: it'll return all the programs that start with apt04:55
ulrichwell at least more than i do ^^ but okay i use it since 2 days04:55
spawn57hyper_ch: no apt running ..seems fine04:55
hyper_chneither apt-get nor aptitude04:55
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spawn57hyper_ch: what's the problem though?04:55
hyper_chjakelights:    ps aux | grep synap04:55
hyper_chspawn57: he can't open adept displaying the message some other tool is alrady running04:56
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jakelightsps aux | grep synap04:56
jakelights1000      7980  0.0  0.1   2880   748 pts/1    R+   23:56   0:00 grep synap04:56
hyper_chjakelights:    ps aux | grep adept04:56
spawn57can't he find out who's which program na user is created the lock file?04:56
jakelightsthere:04:57
jakelightsps aux | grep synap04:57
jakelights1000      7980  0.0  0.1   2880   748 pts/1    R+   23:56   0:00 grep synap04:57
hyper_chspawn57: yes04:57
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spawn57hyper_ch: i dunno what command can help him do that? is it lsof?04:57
JuJuBeeAnybody?  I want to display a list of users that can log into a given machine rather than just have a username and password field.04:57
ulrichokay now this is stupid.. i still cant move any folders to my musicfolder..04:57
vagabon1I followed instructions from this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092&highlight=dell+wireless+1390 to get my wireless working.  Network Manager recognizes my card and my network but when I try to connect it hangs at "Activation stage: configuring device - 28%".  Anyone have any suggestions?04:57
hyper_chspawn57: no clue :(04:57
hyper_chjakelights: tried rebooting?04:57
spawn57hyper_ch: hehe that's the cheap way but it should work04:58
jakelightsive tried it already but nothings change04:58
hyper_chulrich: execute  this   sudo ls -al /media04:58
hyper_chulrich: and    sudo ls -al /media/fat3204:58
hyper_chulrich: and use a pastebin04:58
hyper_chspawn57: apparently it doesn't work04:58
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ulrichi dont know how pastebin works ^^04:59
crazyrobotjakelights: see what files are in /var/lock04:59
hyper_ch!pastebin | ulrich04:59
ubotuulrich: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:59
chris_scummettehezy04:59
chris_scummettehey04:59
hyper_chjakelights: sudo ls -al /var/lock04:59
chris_scummetteim getting troubles with amule04:59
spawn57jakelights: try doing apt-get update and paste the error here (if it's around 1-2 lines )04:59
chris_scummetterefuses to load cause of the skin i gu"ss05:00
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ulrich105:00
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jakelightsapt-get update05:00
jakelightsE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)05:00
jakelightsE: Unable to lock the list directory05:00
ulrich 405:00
ulrich 505:00
ulrich 605:00
hyper_chjakelights: sudo apt-get update05:00
ulrich 705:00
hyper_chulrich: ????05:01
ulrich 805:01
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spawn57jakelights: hehe sorry i forgot to tell you to do sudo05:01
ulrich1205:01
ulrich1305:01
ulrich1405:01
jakelightssorry too05:01
ulrich1505:01
ulrich  total 12005:01
ulrichdrwxr-xr-x  8 root   root  4096 2007-05-17 16:35 .05:01
ulrichdrwxr-xr-x 21 root   root  4096 2007-05-16 18:10 ..05:01
ulrichlrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root     6 2007-05-16 17:37 cdrom -> cdrom005:01
spawn57urlich pasted in here hhaha05:01
hyper_chulrich: use a pastebin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:01
ulrichdrwxr-xr-x  2 root   root  4096 2007-05-16 17:37 cdrom005:01
ulrichdrwxr-xr-x  2 root   root  4096 2007-05-16 17:37 cdrom105:02
ulrichlrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root    45 2007-05-16 17:38 .directory -> /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/directory-media05:02
spawn57use pastebin if it's more than one line man05:02
jakelightssudo apt-get update05:02
jakelightsGet:1 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release.gpg [191B] 05:02
jakelightsIgn http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Translation-en_US05:02
jakelightsIgn http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Translation-en_US05:02
jakelightsIgn http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Translation-en_US05:02
ulrichdrwxr-xr-x 14 ulrich root 32768 2007-05-17 16:57 fat3205:02
spawn57just wait for the flodoing to stop for now05:02
ulrichlrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root     7 2007-05-16 17:37 floppy -> floppy005:02
ulrichdrwxr-xr-x  2 root   root  4096 2007-05-16 17:37 floppy005:02
ulrich-rw-r--r--  1 root   root    96 2007-05-17 14:09 .hal-mtab05:02
ulrich--wS--s--T  1 root   root     0 2007-04-17 07:25 .hal-mtab-lock05:02
ulrichlrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root    42 2007-05-16 17:38 .hidden -> /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-media05:02
ulrichdrwxr-xr-x 14 ulrich root 32768 2007-05-17 16:57 sdb105:02
ulrichdrwxr-xr-x 14 ulrich root 32768 2007-05-17 16:57 WD USB 205:02
ulrichoh damn <.<05:02
ulrichi sont know how to paste05:02
ulrichdont*05:02
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hyper_ch!pastebin | ulrich05:02
ubotuulrich: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:02
spawn57haha it's fine, just dont' do it again in here haha05:02
chris_scummetteanyone can helpme?05:02
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hyper_chspawn57: I told him multiple times already05:02
ulrichyea i know and i tried and it didnt work i dont know what to do with this page!05:03
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spawn57yeah? ..damn05:03
neverblueulrich, maybe paste in it?05:03
neverbluecause its called pastebin05:03
hyper_chulrich: you just paste the output in that site and then you get a url which you can post here05:03
neverbluethe paste in pastebin is a big hint05:03
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ulrichwell i dont get any url05:04
neverbluehyper_ch> !pastebin | ulrich05:04
neverblue<ubotu> ulrich: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:04
jakelightsguys please help with my adept05:04
hyper_chspawn57: did you see apt-get worked.........05:04
spawn57hyper_ch: it did?05:04
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hyper_chspawn57: wouldn't an error message appear instead if it doesn't?05:04
ulrichhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21295/05:05
ulrichthis ?05:05
spawn57yeah, that another program as a lock05:05
spawn57brb,I gotta print a picutre in windows05:05
spawn57gimme 5mins and I'll help you again jake05:05
hyper_chspawn57: but that didn't appear... it started connecting and fetching updates05:05
jakelightsthanks05:06
hyper_chulrich: yes and now  sudo ls -al /media/fat3205:06
spawn57hyper_ch: did it now..05:06
ulrichhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21296/05:06
hyper_chspawn57:05:06
hyper_ch[17:02]  <jakelights> sudo apt-get update05:06
hyper_ch[17:02]  <jakelights> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release.gpg [191B] 05:06
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spawn57hey jakelights, open a konsole and type in  adept, it'll ususally spit out debug messages05:06
hyper_ch!de | ulrich05:07
ubotuulrich: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:07
okayho05:07
hyper_chulrich: join the german room... that's going to be easier :)05:07
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ulrichoh okay05:07
ulrichcya uys05:07
ulrichguys*05:07
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hyper_chulrich: you can stay in here :) no problem :)05:07
chris_scummettemy amule refuses to load05:08
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chris_scummettecause opf the skin05:08
jakelightsi think my adept crashed05:08
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hyper_chjakelights: execute this:   sudo apt-get remove adept && sudo apt-get install adept05:09
crazyrobotjakelights: or better yet do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow adept'05:09
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pteronHi! I've just installed Ubuntu 64bit, and trying to get my Linksys WMP11-wireless network card to work by using ndiswrapper. But I can only find a 32bit driver and ndiswrapper need a 64bit driver - is it possible to install ndiswrapper as 32bit on a 64bit ubuntu?05:10
jakelightsnothing happens w8 ill reboot again05:11
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hyper_chpteron: your linksys isn't auto-detected?05:12
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mallizeanyone know how to turn on chat logging in kopete?05:13
pteronhyper_ch: I can see it by using lspci, if that is what you mean, but it is not detected in "Network"05:13
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hyper_chpteron: can you paste the according lspci output?05:15
pteron05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card05:16
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hyper_chit does not say what chip :(05:17
lydiahey there i got some troubles running amule05:17
hyper_chpteron: oh well... good luck... can't really help you05:17
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hyper_chpteron: my linksys card got a ralink chip and works out of the box05:17
hyper_chfilesharing software is evil ^^05:17
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pteronhyper_ch: But are you also running 64bit?05:18
seishinbyoudepends on what files you are sharing05:18
lydiayep05:18
hyper_chpteron: nope05:18
mendredpteron:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=37822105:18
mendredthis is a link for ur card05:18
mendred64 bit breezy :)05:18
lydianobody will help me withamule?05:18
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lydiaits a skin probleme apparently05:18
hyper_chseishinbyou: well, the Swiss IP Office thinks of filesharing software generally as evil and illegal05:18
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Rictoooops :O05:19
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mendredpteron:  also in the thread u will notice that someone claims that both 32 bit and 64 bit drivers for ur card exist05:19
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seishinbyouhyper_ch: Ah, the JP government is only against a specific one, "Winny"05:19
chopinis there seriously no opera package in adept?05:19
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hyper_chseishinbyou: Winny? Haven't heard of that.. what is it?05:19
hyper_chchopin: there seriously is no opera package in adept05:20
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LjLchopin: why would you expect one to be there? it's barely a freeware application, used to be shareware... get the .deb from opera.com05:20
seishinbyouIt's basically a torrent client; only popular in Japan it seems05:20
seishinbyoulike lzh compression for windows files :p05:20
chopinah, k05:20
crazyrobothyper_ch: you have to add a repo to get opera05:20
chopinthx LjL05:20
hyper_chchopin: or add the "opera debian" repository to your list05:20
pteronmendred: reading it now. I hope ill solve it, because without my network card ubuntu isnt an option as OS05:20
chopino05:20
hyper_chcrazyrobot: I know, I have it :)05:20
hyper_chseishinbyou: lzh :) that I know :)05:21
hyper_chseishinbyou: just curious, does windows Japanese Edition use UTF-8?05:21
seishinbyouIt was fine on the Amiga05:21
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seishinbyouWindows relies on SJIS unfortunately05:21
mendredpteron: let me hunt around a bit more05:21
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seishinbyouPain, since most of my work is in Unicode05:21
hyper_chseishinbyou: same here... ISO-8995-1 or something like that...05:22
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hyper_ch8859-105:22
pteronmendred: if you find something that work, ill give you my soul05:22
seishinbyouAnd whatever bizarre encoding the old MSDOS apps used05:22
mendredpteron: u could use the 32-bit ubuntu u know :)05:22
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lydianobody can help me seriously?05:22
hyper_chwhy can't everyone just use unicode... would be much better05:23
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hyper_chlydia: try another mule-client05:23
mallizeso nobody knows how to turn on chat logging in kopete?05:23
pteronmendred: I know, but ill like to give the 64bit a shot. And I will not give my soul away for a 32bit soloution ;)05:23
mendredrofl05:23
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mendredi will take u up on that05:24
lydiatheres only amule that s gopod05:24
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weiyuanHello05:25
weiyuanI'm trying to setup chinese input on my fresh install of kubuntu feisty05:25
weiyuanbut for some reason, I can't get it to work05:26
hyper_chlydia: if it is not working it can't be good :)05:26
hyper_chweiyuan: maybe seishinbyou can help :)05:26
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weiyuanI installed it through system settings->regional and languages->add language05:26
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weiyuanand added the chinese locale05:26
seishinbyoudid you add scim05:27
weiyuanit seems that now I can change the system language05:27
weiyuanbut I can-t get the input system to work05:27
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seishinbyouAnd set the keyboard layout to the appropriate one05:27
weiyuanI have scim in the programs menu05:27
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weiyuanseishinbyou: how do I set the keyboard properly?05:28
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lydiahow do i open xxx.package05:29
weiyuanis there any difference between using scim or skim to configure the input system?05:29
seishinbyousystem settings -> country & language05:29
hyper_chlydia: what package?05:29
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lydiaxmule package05:29
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lydiadownloaded on sourceforge05:29
hyper_chlydia: what file ending?05:29
seishinbyouDon't know; it's getting too late for me to think straight05:29
lydiagcc05:30
hyper_chlydia: oh... is it source code?05:30
lydiai dont know05:30
hyper_churl?05:30
lydiaim new to linux05:30
seishinbyouOh, under country & lanuage -> add your language and then click the keyboard icon to add your keyboard layout05:30
weiyuanhmm... so my keyboard is an american keyboard05:30
hyper_chlydia: did you try removing amule and installing it again?05:30
lydiahttp://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=xmule&filename=xmule-1.13.6.x86-gcc33.package&use_mirror=mesh05:30
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lydiayes and still that skin problem05:30
ArmeHi.... I have strange problem with Konq.... It doesn't wann to load any pages... But when I start it as other user, it works fine....05:30
lydiait says :05:30
lydia"deafult skin will be bla bla"05:31
weiyuanso I just checked the "enable keyboard layout" checkbox05:31
lydiaand after this05:31
lydiait crashes05:31
weiyuanand the american keyboard layout was already there05:31
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seishinbyouOkay, so what is your hotkey for activating scim/skim05:31
seishinbyoui.e.05:31
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seishinbyouMine is the $BH>3Q!&A43Q(B key to switch to Japanese input05:32
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kuwangerHmm..anyone here know how to configure parallel ports under WINE?05:32
seishinbyoualso, Shift space is another default for some silly reason05:32
flakeusing screenlets, why do mine not have transparent-backgrounds05:32
hyper_chlydia: it's a binary.... hmmm, download it, make it executable and run it....05:32
lydiahow do you make it executable05:32
lydialol05:32
weiyuan hmm... it/05:32
hyper_chlydia: where did you save the file to?05:33
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weiyuanControl+space,Shift+space,Zenkaku_Hankaku,Hangul05:33
lydiadesktop05:33
weiyuanbut none of them do anythin when I type the combination05:33
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hyper_chthe the filename is?05:34
weiyuanactually, when i click on the skim icon in my system tray, I get a totally empty popup menu05:34
hyper_chwell, right click on it05:34
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hyper_chselect properites and make sure it is executable05:34
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cesar_holass alguien de chile???05:35
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lydiaxmule-1.13.6-x86-gcc33.package05:35
seishinbyouAh, so there are no languages assigned to skim?05:35
weiyuan I guess so05:35
cesar_mm05:35
hyper_ch!es | cesar_05:35
ubotucesar_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:35
weiyuanI just got this message from skim "If you want to use skim (scim-panel-kde) or scim-qtimm (Qt immodule support for SCIM), please select kconfig as the config module."05:36
mendredpteron: did u install the wireless-tools package?05:36
lydiaalright05:36
seishinbyouNot sure if skim/scim are same or what, but for scim here, I right-clicked the toolbar and chose "setup"05:36
hyper_chis it executable?05:36
Dekanscan kubuntu manage correctly file transfers on USB devices ?05:36
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lydiayes but requires soms download apprently05:36
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pteronmendred: Hmm i dont think so05:36
hyper_chDekans: what do you mean?05:36
hyper_chlydia: what do you get?05:36
Dekanshyper_ch: the transfer speed is ridiculous05:37
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lydiasome downloads running on the console05:37
Dekanseven with the USB 2.0 port05:37
weiyuanyeah, actually the configuration dialogs of skim and scim look identical, except the icons and themes are nicer in skim05:37
mendredpteron: that link recommends that u install that05:37
seishinbyouweiyuan: You can get them with apt-get05:37
seishinbyouor aptitude05:37
weiyuanI guess that's because skim is a kde app...05:37
mendredand he is specifically talking about ur card as well05:37
hyper_chlydia: no clue05:37
weiyuanthese 2 packages?05:37
pteronmendred: How to install or check if it is installed?05:37
lydiait works05:37
seishinbyouI did an apt-cache search on scim and got a nice list05:37
lydiaits installing05:37
mendreddo an sudo apt-get install wireless-tools05:37
mendredin the konsole05:38
pteronwill do05:38
lydiathanks05:38
hyper_chlydia: good luck :)05:38
mendredor install it from adept05:38
mendredwhichever ur comfortable with05:38
pteronmendred: ive got it05:38
hyper_chDekans: well, speed and correct transfers are not the same thing05:38
mendredcoolio05:38
seishinbyouwhich language do you wish to enter?05:38
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lydiaerffffffff05:38
lydiait closes as soon i open it05:38
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lydiareboot?05:39
hyper_chlydia: I don't know05:39
Dekanshyper_ch: on windows it is fast and I have no problem05:39
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hyper_chDekans: for me it's fast on linux and I have no problem05:39
pteronmendred: What is it or how to use it?05:39
mendredpteron: lemme figure that out  :)05:39
Dekanshyper_ch: it's fast out-of-the-box or you changed some settings ?05:40
weiyuanthey are already installed05:40
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weiyuanseishinbyou: I want to input simplified chinese05:40
hyper_chDekans: for me it's fast out-of-the-box05:40
pteronmendred: Should i start fearing that im actually going to loose my soul? :P05:40
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mendredpteron: lets see05:40
mendredpteron: from the link it just seems that05:41
mendredpteron: if u r using 64-bit05:41
mendredpteron: then u install this packag05:41
seishinbyouI'm wondering if anything not labelled "Traditional" will be the Simplified character set05:41
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mendredpteron: and then load ur driver through ndiswrapper05:41
seishinbyouscim-pinyin scim-tables-zh look promising05:41
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weiyuanactually in the scim configuration tool05:42
mendredpteron: though that sounds illogical to me...but he seems to be claiming that the same driver inf has both 32/64 bit05:42
mendredpteron: where did u download ur drivers?05:43
seishinbyouhrm, what is this gcin I'm seeing, actually05:43
seishinbyou!gcin05:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gcin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:43
pteronmendred: linksys-homepaeg05:43
weiyuanthe IMEEngine->tables shows me all the input methods I should have05:43
mendredok05:43
seishinbyougcin - a GTK+ based input method platform for Chinese users05:43
weiyuanwhich include english, 4 or five methods for simplified chinese, and 10 or so for traditional05:43
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weiyuanand all are said to be activated05:43
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pteronmendred: this is what i got from dmesg [   43.912800]  ndiswrapper (check_nt_hdr:153): kernel is 64-bit, but Windows driver is not 64-bit;bad magic: 01005:44
lydiaerfff05:44
seishinbyouWhat is the "Activation" key to switch your input methods?05:44
lydianothing05:44
lydia:(05:44
weiyuanthe default ones05:44
weiyuanCtrl+space05:44
weiyuanShift+space05:44
mendredpteron: u get to keep ur soul :(05:44
seishinbyouIt does nothing when you try to type anything in here? (switch IM)05:44
weiyuanand the funkz Zenkaku-Hankaku or Hangul things that I don't actually have on my keyboard05:44
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pteronBut ndiswrapper looks fine:05:45
pteronlsipnds : driver installed05:45
pteron        device (17FE:2120) present05:45
seishinbyouAh...Can you do it by selecting it with the mouse05:45
weiyuan No it doesn't05:45
seishinbyou(in the skim panel)05:45
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weiyuanI can't select anything from the skim panel05:45
weiyuanthe list is entirely empty05:45
seishinbyouDid you "reload configuration"?05:45
weiyuanno05:45
seishinbyouAssuming you added new sets after loading it05:45
seishinbyouinitially05:45
weiyuanHow do I do that?05:45
weiyuanwell... I rebooted since I installed chinese support though05:46
seishinbyouYou could right-click the panel and choose "Reload configuration", or kill the process and restart it through a shell05:46
mendredpteron : huh??????????05:46
seishinbyouI'm not sure if the changes take affect for presently open apps05:47
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mendredpteron: are u saying its working?05:47
seishinbyouType opening up Kate after doing that and switching IMs05:47
pteronmendred: I looks fine i ndiswrapper, but it says that "module configuration already contains alias directive" when i "ndiswrapper -m"05:48
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seishinbyouUK...where it is a more decent time of the day I assume05:48
NiceGuyUK16:48 here05:48
pteronmendred: I was hoping to see a wlan0 in ifconfig05:48
seishinbyoubetter than 00:4805:48
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NiceGuyUKwireless is weird.  one of my adapters comes up as wlan0 the other as eth105:49
weiyuanI killed the skim process and restarted it05:49
weiyuanbut It didn't change anything05:49
seishinbyouDid you try opening a new Kate window and entering something?05:49
mendredpteron: iwconfig?05:49
pteron"no wireless extensions"05:50
mendredpteron: dmesg |tail05:50
weiyuanyeah, nothing05:50
mendredwot does it say05:50
seishinbyouOne guide here sais to restart X, but I don't remember if that was necessary05:50
weiyuanstill types english05:50
seishinbyouThis is for Mepis, but maybe it can help - http://www.mepis.org/node/1084205:50
mendredpteron: try ndiswrapper -ma or -a05:51
weiyuanwell... as I said before, I rebooted right after installing the chinese from the system settings05:51
pteronmendred: 2 sec05:51
seishinbyouI chose to install the JP environment from the start so it would do all this for me; I haven't done a manual install since my last Debian install05:51
pteronmendred: i did the -ma05:51
mendredpteron: and?05:52
seishinbyouDo you have language-selector installer (actually, do I?)05:52
pteronmendred: no change in wconfig or ifconfig05:52
mendred*sigh*05:53
seishinbyouno, and I don't know if it matters05:53
flakeare screenlets supposed to have transparent backgrounds?  on Feisty/ubuntu 7.0405:53
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weiyuanI'm following the guide you pointed me to05:53
pteronmendred: are you supposed to use modprobe in some way?05:53
seishinbyouMy advice right now is do some googling; I'm getting really tired and should doze off05:53
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seishinbyouThat guide may not be the best; googling for other "chinese skim setup" or such might give more amusing guides05:54
mendredpteron: yeah u run a sudo modprobe ndiswrapper05:54
mendredafter doing -ma05:54
weiyuanok, thanks a lot05:54
mendredpteron: and then sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid WHN mode managed05:54
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JuJuBeeGnome had an option to display a list of users at hte login screen.  Does kubuntu have that option somewhere that I am not seeing?05:54
seishinbyouOh look, Chinese how-to05:54
seishinbyouhttp://www.nixser.com/2006/10/23/debian-chinese-how-to/05:54
seishinbyouhopefully one of those 2 links or other searches will be of some help05:55
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pteronmendred: "No such device" :(05:55
seishinbyouI'm off for tonight05:55
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seishinbyouI have to wake up in 4 hours for work :D05:55
evievihi there, any skype 7.04 AMD64 version available05:55
evievi?05:55
evieviand flas as well?05:55
mendredpteron: for modprobe?05:55
evieviI meant flash! sorry!05:55
mendredpteron:  did the modprobe succeed?05:56
pteronmendred: no, when i iwconfig05:56
mendredpteron: ah ok05:56
pteronmendred: modprobe didnt give any errors05:56
mendredpteron: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan05:57
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pteronmendred: wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning.05:57
mendredpteron: grrrrrrrrrrrrr05:57
pteronmendred: :/05:57
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pteronmendred: shouldnt you be able to see wlan0 in ifconfig05:58
NiceGuyUKevievi: there is no 64-bit flash, you have to use some wrapper for the 32bi version05:58
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evieviI see05:58
fdoving!flash64 | evievi05:58
ubotuevievi: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava05:58
evieviand how does this work?05:58
fdovingevievi: and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#head-6c3cbecd1f1ecd4388bde1462ee364bb57e4533b05:58
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evievisorry for this newbie question!05:58
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NiceGuyUKnot newbie, catches a lot of people out05:59
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gggg_gg05:59
NiceGuyUKand fdoving is quicker than me :)05:59
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JuJuBeeAnybody? Please... I need to figure out how to list the available users at the login screen for kubuntu. It was easy in ubuntu but I cannot find it in kubuntu.05:59
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mendredpteron: iwconfig wlan0 ssid SSIDNAME05:59
evievithanks for the tip guys06:00
mendredwhere ur ssid SSIDNAME get it from windows06:00
evieviI appreciate06:00
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mendredthen do a iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed06:00
mendredwith a sudo06:00
pteronmendred: Error : unrecognised wireless request "ssid"06:00
mendredok ssid is a number06:00
NiceGuyUKessid not ssid I think06:00
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pteronmendred: i cant paste 10 lines or so in a query to you?06:01
mendred?06:01
mendredno06:01
NiceGuyUK!paste06:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:01
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mendredNiceGuyUK: thanks06:01
pteronmendred:06:01
pteronpteron@pteron:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -l06:02
pteronlsbcmnds : driver installed06:02
pteronlsipnds : driver installed06:02
pteron        device (17FE:2120) present06:02
pteronwmp11nds : driver installed06:02
pteronpteron@pteron:~$ sudo iwconfig wlan0 ssid org06:02
pteronError : unrecognised wireless request "ssid"06:02
pterondoh06:02
NiceGuyUK!paste | pteron06:02
ubotupteron: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:02
NiceGuyUK;)06:02
pteronsorry06:02
mendredpteron: instead of ssid try essid06:02
pteronI thought i pasted the url06:02
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morrisonciao06:03
pteronmendred: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21303/06:03
morrisonitaliani ?06:04
NiceGuyUK!it | morrison06:04
ubotumorrison: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:04
morrisonsorry06:04
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NiceGuyUKits ok :)06:04
mendredpteron: ouch :)06:04
evieviwhat about flash9 from adobe?06:04
lydianyonecan help me with ktorrent06:05
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NiceGuyUKevievi: still no 64bit from them yet06:05
evieviand gizmo?06:05
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pteronmendred: Are we out of options? :(06:05
mendredpteron: can u do a dmesg | tail and paste it there06:05
fdovingJuJuBee: like this? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kubuntu+Feisty+UserList++?content=5691406:05
NiceGuyUKpteron: do me a iwconfig paste too?06:06
pteronmendred: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21304/06:06
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pteronNiceGuyUK: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21305/06:07
NiceGuyUKthx06:07
JuJuBeefdoving : thanks.  Why is this not built into kubuntu? Seems like  a standard request...06:07
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NiceGuyUKpteron: is it a usb adapter or other?06:08
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fdovingJuJuBee: it's on the TODO-list for gutsy.06:08
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JuJuBeeAh.06:08
JuJuBeeK06:08
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pteronNiceGuyUK: no, pci (output from ndiswrapper http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21306/)06:08
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pteronNiceGuyUK: Using 64bit Ubuntu06:09
fdovinganyone got some good wallpaper sites with 1440x900 res?06:09
NiceGuyUKah, ndiswrapper. not used that myself, sorry06:09
NiceGuyUKfdoving: digitalblasphemy.com ?06:10
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pteronShould I give up and dicth Ubuntu 64bit, and use 32bit instead?06:10
fdovingpteron: if you only want a regular desktop and don't have loads of RAM, yes.06:10
NiceGuyUKah, just had a thought - I bet its trying to wrap 32 bit Win drivers, hence the issue06:11
fdovingNiceGuyUK: i'll check it out. been a while since i've visited it, thanks.06:11
pteronNiceGuyUK: Yes thats bin my problem, but there was someone who said the also were 64bit drivers, but i guess that wasnt true06:11
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NiceGuyUKfdoving: also www.pixelgirlpresents.com06:12
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phoenixbyrdwhats the command to shutdown X?06:13
pteronWhat cons is there with 32bit on 64bit intel? Is it a big speed difference or when will i notice it?06:13
NiceGuyUKslight performance increase06:13
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pterondecrease you mean06:13
fdovingpteron: it can address more RAM directly.06:13
fdoving.. the 64bit..06:13
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NiceGuyUK32 bit os on 64bit hardware faster than 32bit on 32bit I thought?06:13
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NiceGuyUKits what I got06:14
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pteronNiceGuyUK: it is?06:14
NiceGuyUKfrom benchmarks I've seen06:14
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NiceGuyUKcould be wrong though, I am occasionally :)06:14
pteronthere is no diff in clockfreq?06:14
mendredpteron:  yeah just like win 3.1 ran faster on the pentium (16 bit on 32 bit)06:14
NiceGuyUKa 2.0ghz is still a 2.0ghz, if thats what you mean06:15
pteronNiceGuyUK: So dual core dosnt have anything to do with 32/64bit?06:15
HymnToLifeno06:15
HymnToLifethere are single core 64bits and dual core 32bits06:16
skanedobry den zdravim nevite nekdo prosimvas jak se da pridat do kubuntu anglicka klavesnice?06:16
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HymnToLife!cz06:16
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.06:16
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pteronHmm...so the only problem is that i cant adress as much RAM. Will i notice that, or is it only when doing some crazy stuff?06:17
dr_willisHmm. somthing ive always wondered about.. how can Adept Updater know theres 12 updates - then when i start it - the first thing that it needs to do is 'fetch a list of updates' (which i guess is apt-get update command)06:17
NiceGuyUKunless you have more than 4gb of RAM, probably not an issue06:17
dr_willisif it knows theres updates.. dident it allready fetch that list at an earlier time?06:17
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NiceGuyUKdr_willis: update notifier running in the bakground probably06:17
fdovingdr_willis: yes, it did. but that's done once a day. there can be new updates since that list was downloaded.06:18
dr_willisfdoving, ok. that makes more sence then.06:18
pteronI think ill throw out the 64bit-version then and start leeching the 32bit. Thank you mendred and NiceGuyUK for you help, you guys rock06:18
pteronand fdoving :)06:18
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NiceGuyUKsorry we didn't solve it for you06:18
NiceGuyUKtime to go home now for me...06:18
mendredpteron: sorry boss06:18
pteronNiceGuyUK: dont worry, ill find some more problems06:18
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NiceGuyUKlol06:18
pteronfor you to solve :)06:18
pteronbye guys06:18
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muaddibis there an ubuntu games channel?06:20
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SponHi, my adept installer and adept manager are giving me an error saying that another process is using the packing system but i dont have any processes running06:24
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LjL!adept crash fix | spon06:26
ubotuspon: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:26
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|ericsson|Where do I turn of that bloody bouncing mouse cursor thingie? Drives me (more) nuts..06:28
robin_#ubuntu-fr06:29
pag|ericsson|, kcontrol -> Appearance -> Launch Feedback06:29
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blekoshelp!!!, i installed kickoff, now i removed it i have no task bar!!!06:29
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|ericsson|pag, you lost me already mate :) Where is kcontrol, can't find such a thing..06:30
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|ericsson|pag: or is it "system settings"?06:30
pag|ericsson|, oh... try via system settings :) I always forget, that kcontrol isn't installed by default06:30
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|ericsson|pag: thing is, there is nothing hinting towards "Launch Feedback" in there :(06:31
pag|ericsson|, that's exactly the reason, why I prefer kcontrol over Sys. Settings ;)06:32
|ericsson|pag: I'll throw in kcontrol and hopefull I'll get rid of all evil bouncy thingies06:33
pag|ericsson|, good idea :)06:33
|ericsson|pag: but on the other hand: kcontrol is already the newest version. So, where is that one then? ;)06:33
pag|ericsson|, alf+f2 ?06:33
|ericsson|pag: that means that it DOES come as default, did a fresh installation yesterday on one the machine from the official live cd..06:34
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pag|ericsson|, ok. It just can't be found anywhere by default, which isn't good either06:35
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|ericsson|pag: that is true, running it through terminal or 'run' does bring it up though06:36
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|ericsson|By the way, when shutting down the system from X, it turns of the monitor as it would, but the system is running and tty's doesn't work. Anyone had this problem in feisty?06:39
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dr_willis|ericsson|,  what video card was this?06:43
|ericsson|in this machine it's a radeon 9250 pro06:43
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dr_williswith some of my ati based cards. the fglrx drivers  crash/go to a black screen when i log out.06:43
dr_willisi had to use the 'ati' driver  not 'fglrx'06:44
dr_willisthe system isenthung. but X or the drivers are real confused/crashed. I canhit alt-ctrl-delete, (or alt-ctrl-F1) and type in blindly and make the system reboot. :)06:44
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|ericsson|dr_willis: I'm running the standard 'ati' already, haven't gotten around to change it yet06:45
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dr_willishmm.. guess ya could try the fglrx drivers then.06:45
|ericsson|dr_willis: but wouldn't the tty's still work though? I mean if it's just X crashing?06:46
dr_willismy laptop withits x200 has the issue. not ttied the others.06:46
dr_willisthe tty's 'work' but i cant see them either.06:46
|ericsson|dr_willis: I'll give it a try and switch drivers though, might be that which is causing the problem..06:46
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ubuntu__heeelp ... somehow I keep having apt-get and startx deleted06:48
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ubuntu__amongst other apps06:49
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NSCAD_Nathananyone know for a good howto on setting up FTP server in KDE?06:51
|ericsson|Are there any good all'round bencmark tests one could run?06:51
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haluzakplease people how can i install nvidia drivers on kubuntu 7.04?06:52
dr_willishmm..setting up a ftp server. dosent really have a lot to do with kde. :)06:52
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dr_willishaluzak,  read that nvidia page yet?06:52
dr_willis!nvidia06:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:52
|ericsson|NSCAD_Nathan: If you can't find anything on the ubuntu pages that tastes good, then try http://www.howtoforge.com06:53
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haluzaki did but i can't find Restricted Devices Manager ... in system i can't find any administration06:53
|ericsson|haluzak: use your terminal and check the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually then06:54
goku_ssj_4the rdm is in gnome06:54
phoenixbyrdI'm having trouble here... I rebooted and now linux is telling me I don't have apt-get or an xserver, or whereis or lynx etc...06:54
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phoenixbyrdwth happened?06:54
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drknshello friends06:56
drknsi need heelppp06:56
dwidmannwith?06:56
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drknsi am trying to use my film scanner and i installed vuescan software06:57
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goku_ssj_4 haluzak: you can search for the drivers using synaptic06:57
drknsmy problem is vuescan wont start06:57
drknsno problem with the scanner driver06:57
soulriderdrkns: run it in a console and pastebin any errors06:57
drknsvuescan wont start06:58
haluzakthx i'll try06:58
drknshow?06:58
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goku_ssj_4remember to install the ones for your kernal06:58
dwidmanndrkns: open up konsole, type vuescan, press enter06:58
phoenixbyrdhow do I mount the hard drive from the livecd?06:58
drknscommand not found06:58
dwidmannhmmm, wonder what it's called then, also, I wonder if that's why it won't start06:59
drknson the net it sayd donot use idescsi module but i dont think i have that module running06:59
soulriderdrkns: type vue and press tab and see if it autocompletes07:00
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drknsnope it doesnot07:01
drknshow can i check if i have idescsi module is running or not07:02
dwidmannlooks like there isn't anything about vuescan in the ubuntu repositories. Perhaps the binary isn't in the $PATH07:02
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dwidmanndrkns: lsmod07:02
drknsthis is a stand alone program i believe07:02
mo0osahare there any gui clients that update dns at dyndns.org?07:03
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dr_willismo0osah,  heh - i noticed that my router can do that. :)07:04
dwidmanndrkns: if you navigate to where you have it, then type "sh ./whateveritsnameis" what does it say?07:04
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angasule!flash07:04
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash07:04
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premier__hello, I'm having trouble with some videos... It seems to have started since I installed medibuntu... anyway, I hear a lot of popping on the audio, and the video changes resolution randomly07:04
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drkns./vuescan: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected07:06
dwidmanninteresting07:06
drknsthats what it said07:06
mo0osahdr_willis how do you check?07:06
dwidmanndrkns: try using bash instead of sh07:06
drknsthe previous version worled but now i upgraded and this problem07:06
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drkns./vuescan: ./vuescan: cannot execute binary file07:07
drknsthis thin has no older version that i can find on the net as well and there seems no other filmscanning software either07:08
dwidmanndrkns: how about just ./vuescan instead, with no sh or bash?07:08
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drkns./vuescan: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:08
dwidmannJackpot!!07:08
drknsyup07:08
muaddibanyone install supermariowar?07:08
drknsso i need to install ???07:08
dwidmanninstall libstdc++507:08
drknsdamn thats some rescue man07:09
drknsthx i will try07:09
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dwidmannmuaddib: what is it? sounds interesting07:11
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muaddibsuper mario deathmatch game07:12
muaddibhttp://smw.72dpiarmy.com/07:12
muaddibhaving trouble installing it though07:12
drknsdwidman your the man thx buddy it worked now07:13
xazz_boujour, je suis un debutant sous linux je viens d'installer Kubuntu, je voudrais savoir si quelqu'un a deja install une carte son en usb ? moi j'ai une tascam us 122 apparement les drivers seraient dans cette version de kubuntu 7.04 masi j'ai pas de son je n'arriv pas l'installer merci07:13
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Tm_T!fr | xazz_07:13
ubotuxazz_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:13
phoenixbyrdkubuntu is telling startx isn't install, so I checked witht he live cd and it is there... what's wrong?07:13
dwidmanndrkns: awesome07:14
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dwidmannphoenixbyrd: try running "sudo updatedb && locate bin/startx"07:14
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drknsdwidman one more challenge amule crashes when i start the networks download after several jumps of the rabbit07:15
phoenixbyrdfrom the live cd or from my install?07:15
phoenixbyrdnvm .. stupid question07:15
dwidmanndrkns: erm, I've never used amule, but perhaps it'd give you more information if you ran it in a terminal07:15
phoenixbyrdwill try, thanx07:15
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dwidmannphoenixbyrd: from your install07:16
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andrianahi] 07:17
dwidmannhi07:17
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snowdonkeyHey guys.  Since switching to Feisty Fawn I can't burn CDs using K3b07:19
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snowdonkeyI get the message "OPC failed.  Probably the writer does not like the medium"07:19
dwidmannsnowdonkey: get any errors? It say why you can't?07:19
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snowdonkey"OPC failed.  Probably the writer does not like the medium"07:20
goku_ssj_4use different disks, that worked for me07:20
goku_ssj_4but double check that ur writer is selected07:21
hakaisou!backup07:21
snowdonkeyOk, will double check that.  1 sec07:21
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning07:21
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snowdonkeyDouble checked I had the writer selected same error.  It's strange b/c I could burn fine using K3b in Dapper07:22
Ayabarawhat app is good for bluetooth communication with nokiaphones?07:22
snowdonkeyAnd I'm using Sony CD-R discs on a Sony Vaio laptop07:23
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goku_ssj_4ok thats the obvious sorted07:23
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drknsdwidman may be you can suggest a better gnutella downloader??07:24
dwidmannsnowdonkey: still probably worthwhile to try a different medium anyway07:24
dwidmanndrkns: never really used gnutella, sorry07:25
snowdonkeyOk.  I'll see if I can pick up something.  Is there a brand you recommend?07:25
dwidmanndrkns: if you want to try something else though, you can try "apt-cache search gnutella" and see what comes up07:25
goku_ssj_4drkns: have you tried frostwire07:25
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dwidmannsnowdonkey: not really, I think I've got memorex and philips sitting around my place, but I don't have the same drive or the same issue as you so I an't really say07:26
snowdonkeyAlright.  Thanks for the help dwidmann & goku.  If I can't get it sorted I'll be back.  :)07:27
FOADSomeone please help: a few minutes after starting the kubuntu-desktop all gdk apps start segfaulting when I try to run them (before that it all seems ok). No such problem when booting ubuntu (on the same machine)?07:27
goku_ssj_4np07:27
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dwidmannFOAD: odd07:28
drknsgoku ssj nope but i will try07:28
FOADAnd terribly annoying since I prefer KDE in general but I need some of those apps.07:28
FOADAny ideas?07:28
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drknsthx friends my juorney to the darkside is almost complete07:29
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drknsthe only thing left is my integrated webcam on my laptop07:29
goku_ssj_4drkns:if you use beryl youll have to switch to the kde window manager to get it to work prop07:29
drknsit does not work07:29
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drknsi am on beryl07:29
drknsis that why amule is crashing?07:30
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goku_ssj_4maybe, frostwire uses java for the gui and beryl doesnt play nice, so i wouldnt like to say07:31
ForMatterHelowww..07:31
goku_ssj_4lo formatter07:31
dr_willisFOAD,  try a new user with default kde/gnome settings.07:32
ForMatterI have EPSON printer,but i have attached the USB to the komputer..But,i still cant printing..07:32
goku_ssj_4are you using cups?07:33
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ForMatterWhats that..07:33
goku_ssj_4common unix printing system07:33
FOADI will.07:33
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ForMatterHow to use that..07:34
goku_ssj_4hang on ive got the linux bible out07:34
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opsidaohi ppl07:36
opsidaoi'm using 6.10, and i'm thinking on dist-upgrading to 7.04, any known issue I should know?07:36
ForMatterWhere's everyone..?This forum feels quite..07:36
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ForMatterTry to open the kubuntu site..07:37
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opsidaoForMatter: that was far kinder than the usual rtfm ;)07:38
ForMatterOr,u can view the help in that site how to upgrading..07:38
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goku_ssj_4formatter: start knoqueror and type localhost:63107:38
goku_ssj_4in the address bar07:39
ForMatterWait a minute..07:39
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ForMatterThe result is error..07:39
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goku_ssj_4its not installed then, you can install it using synaptic07:40
ForMatterGoku_ssj_:I dont have internet connection..07:41
goku_ssj_4dumb question: how you talking to me07:41
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ForMatterGoku_ssj_4:i dont have sypnatic too..07:42
lydiaanyone knows how to open MS .txt files?07:43
goku_ssj_4what linux you using07:43
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goku_ssj_4lydia: use kate or gedit07:43
ForMatterKubuntu 7.0407:44
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goku_ssj_4same as and cups was installed as default.....strange07:44
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ForMatterSo,how to use that..07:45
Jack3how do i get  a file to resume when using wget?07:45
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goku_ssj_4use what07:45
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ForMatterCups07:45
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opsidaojaja, just 1275 packages to upgrade ;P07:46
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AcTpoHoMrofl, and I complained about my 89 packages to get skype going :D07:46
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AcTpoHoMoh, it was for NVidia :-D07:47
goku_ssj_4it loads at boot as a server so you can find it in any browser by going to "localhost:631" but if that doesnt work then you got me07:47
goku_ssj_41275 is that all07:47
MegaVoltthe last 3 weeks i only had 3 packages to upgrade, shouldnt that be more?07:48
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phoenixbyrdhow do I stop X?07:49
MegaVoltstrg + alt + backspace07:49
phoenixbyrdI wanna update NVidia07:49
phoenixbyrddoesn't that just restart it?07:49
phoenixbyrdand whats strg?07:49
MegaVoltkill kdm before that and it wont restart07:49
MegaVoltkdm / gdm / xdm07:49
phoenixbyrdahhh ok07:49
phoenixbyrdtyvm07:50
ForMatterGoku_ssj_4:what i must doing if i want make my kubuntu be web server..07:50
opsidaophoenixbyrd: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop should do the trick all at one07:50
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goku_ssj_4as in to host files07:51
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ForMatterGoku_ssj_4:where's it..07:51
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goku_ssj_4sounds like you need to install it. if you cant get it from the internet from that machine then grab it on the one your using and transfer the debs manually07:53
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ForMatterGoku_ssj_4:where the site address..07:54
ForMatterEveryone,can u help me..I want my kubuntu be web server on my local network..How can i do..07:56
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ForMatterSo quite..07:57
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ForMatterWhere's everyone..07:58
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PhinnForthere07:58
PhinnFort:D07:59
ForMatterCan u help me..07:59
ForMatterI want my kubuntu be web server on my local network..How can i do..07:59
PhinnFortForMatter: have you installed apache?07:59
ForMatterHow i get it..08:00
PhinnFortForMatter: go to the K-Menu-> System -> Package manager (Adept)08:00
PhinnForti think that should be it08:00
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PhinnFortit might be named slightly differently, I'm using a Norwegian locale08:01
PhinnFortForMatter: search for "apache2"08:01
PhinnFortor you might want to try "lighttpd", it depends on what you want your webserver to do08:01
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ForMatterPhinnFort:i have EPSON printer,the usb cable was attached..But it cant work properly08:02
PhinnFortForMatter: web server?08:02
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PhinnFort!epson08:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about epson - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:03
ForMatter!cups08:03
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows08:03
PhinnFort!printer08:03
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows08:03
PhinnFortForMatter: what is your problem?08:03
ForMatterPhinnFort:thanks,i think my problem was solved..08:04
PhinnFortgood to hear08:04
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nininaHello08:11
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odommcdee_hey08:12
conaxHi08:12
conaxIch bin neu08:12
odommcdee_sup everyone08:12
conaxoh does anybody here speak german?08:13
odommcdee_nope08:13
nininaI seem to be having a small problem...I had to use ndiswrapper to get my wireless card working, and it is working as you can see, but I can't seem to you konquerer or kNetworkManager...08:13
odommcdee_konquerer should be working08:13
nininas/you/use08:14
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nininaIt's giving me a cannot connect to server message08:14
Aloneaninina: I could not get knetwork manager to work at all on mine. I got rid of it...08:14
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odommcdee_hmm.....well i am new to linux08:14
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Aloneaninina: Oh! konqueror is probably looking at network manager (different from knetworkmanager) for connectivity and it is reporting that you are not connected. It did that to my Gaim program.08:15
Aloneaninina: though for web browsing I use firefox.08:15
odommcdee_i actually just install ubuntu over windows becuz it sucks08:15
conaxhow can I install programs like java?08:15
nininaAlonea: is there any way around that?08:15
conaxI have kubuntu 608:15
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Aloneaninina: I removed knetwork manager and network manager and poof, all was happy.08:16
odommcdee_ive been trying to download java and other software with no luck08:16
nininaAlonea: Is there a replacement for their functionality?  Manually switching and entering keys all the time will not be fun08:17
Aloneaninina: you are on wireless right? I use Wireless Assistant. (or wlassistant, you can use adept to find it under that name)08:18
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nininaAlonea: So I use adept to uninstall network Manager and KNetwork manager and install that instead?08:19
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Aloneaninina: yeah, though do preview change at first to see if it gets rid of anything else. I THINK if you do purge instead of uninstall it wont uninstall the kde thing along with it08:19
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Aloneaninina: though there is a later version of wlassistant online. would have to google it08:20
Aloneabrb08:20
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fabbeLo guys08:31
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fabbeiam kinda new to kubuntu but i just love it :D08:31
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nininaI'm trying really hard to love it08:32
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fabbeany 1 that could maybe help me with a fast question about beryl?08:32
fabbewhen i activate beryl my minimize and maximize buttons just disaperas, and yes iam using emerald theme manager08:33
fabbeif i swith back to KDe to handle the windows it works fine08:33
phnomdoes the theme you use have the buttons?08:33
andrewminfabbe: could be the graphics card driver08:33
andrewminwhat driver do you have?08:33
fabbei have the latest nvidia driver from their homepage08:34
esben_fabbe: I get that too. Makes Beryl a bit hard to use :)08:34
fabbeyes it does :)08:34
PhinnFortit could be just the fact that beryl is beta/buggy, and not ready for production use;)08:34
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fabbePhinnFort: ofc i know that, but would ne nice to get it work :)08:34
PhinnFort:P08:35
esben_Beryl is being merged into compiz. And anyway, the compiz features in the KWin_compiz branch will probably work better with KDE anyway08:35
esben_that's what I heard, anyway :)08:35
fabbeyes hope the job will be done soon :)08:35
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dragananyone experienced with mirrors and local repos?08:35
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esben_dragan: With subversion? svk is the answer, but I havn't tried it yet. Supposed to work well, though08:35
phnomAnyone got any pointers on how to get my webcam to work? It's integrated in my acer aspire 5101...08:35
PhinnFortgit ftw08:35
esben_Most other versioning systems support it out of the box08:36
draganI have downloaded all 16BG with apt-mirror08:36
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draganbg=gb :-)08:36
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esben_oh, that kind of mirror08:36
draganyes08:36
fabbei have read some post on the net about my problem... and some people says that some themes does not have those buttons... but i have tryed plenty of themes without succusess08:36
dragannow I want to use it08:36
esben_fabbe: Same here. The Aqaumarine theme should have buttons, but it doesn't. So you are not alone :)08:37
draganI need help with sources.list08:37
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fabbeesben ye it kida sucks :D08:37
draganwhole repo is on external drive in USB rack08:37
esben_fabbe: Beryl gets annoying after a few days anyway. I only turn it on for visitors these days :o)08:37
nininawhy is it when I try to load something that needs sudo sometimes it just sits there and trys to load for a while and then vanishes rather then prompting me for my password08:37
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yallaxxguys i need some help here.. i get grub error 21 when trying to boot..here is my menu.list and device map: http://pastebin.ca/493332 ,i installed ubuntu on sda10  i also got winxp on sda1 and vista on sda7, also i got a second hd sdb with 2 partitions on..i used to have ubuntu on that aswell08:38
fabbeesben hehe ye is eye candy i know :D08:38
esben_ninina: The loading thing is normal when the program just doesn't start.. KDE does a less than stellar job there. As to why... is it the same program always, or does it work on or off?08:38
nininaon and off08:39
esben_ninina: Does it prompt for password and then not start, or never prompt?08:39
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esben_ninina: Sorry, you already said never prompt. Hmmm...08:40
fabbewell iam off :D08:40
nininaesben_: when it doesn't start, it doesn't prompt, when it does start it does prompt08:40
fabbei will just skip beryl and w8 for compiz :D08:40
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esben_fabbe: Welcome in the club. We got jackets ;)08:41
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fabbehehehe08:41
frojnddoes anyone know from head for any tutorial how to isntall xp on feisty ?08:41
frojndinstall*08:41
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fabbewhy install XP?08:41
fabbeits crap08:41
fabbe:D08:41
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esben_better than Vista.08:41
fabbefor shure :D08:41
esben_or so I've heard08:41
frojndcause linux crap since it doens't has bluetooth-alsa...08:41
frojndso again08:41
frojndanyone?08:41
fabbevista with no drivers... gg08:41
esben_gotta go again08:41
SlimeyPetefrojnd: install virtualbox, run it, then install XP from your XP CD/ISO. It might not be able to use bluetooth, though....08:42
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paoloHi all! have some problem with NumLock08:42
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frojndSlimeyPete: why not vmware ?08:43
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frojndSlimeyPete: or is virtualbox sub of vmware?08:43
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paoloi cannot make it default on at startup08:43
SlimeyPetefrojnd: vmware workstation cost money, last time I looked. You could usevmware server instead I guess, but I don't know how to do that. VirtualBox is a pretty decent, free, virtualization app.08:44
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frojndSlimeyPete: costs what one time serial?08:44
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ubuntu__j08:45
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ubuntu__idiot08:45
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SlimeyPetefrojnd: it costs quite a lot, I think. A couple of hundred pounds, maybe?08:45
paoloi think it's a /etc/X11/corg.conf parameter but i don't know what08:45
dettoaltrimenti_how can I reload my sound driver without restarting?08:46
SlimeyPeteah more like one hundred08:46
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SlimeyPetefrojnd: you can grab the free vmware player and hack that to make it install an OS of your choice, I think, but I've never done it08:46
frojndSlimeyPete: aha08:46
darkpr0phetcan anyone help me with a beryl question? i just installed that and emerald with synaptic..how do i actually get it to start? o.008:46
ubuntu__moin08:46
frojndso virtualbox..08:46
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draganthere is wmvare server in repos08:47
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draganin restricted... if I recall correct08:47
SlimeyPetedragan: really? didn't know that08:47
SlimeyPetefer08:47
ubuntu__hallo08:47
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dragancheck repos... for feisty08:47
ubuntu__was geht08:47
AFaithhello mates08:47
AFaithhuge08:47
AFaithproblem08:47
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AFaithwith kubuntu08:47
AFaithdapper08:48
AFaithi wanna back it up08:48
AFaithusing dd method08:48
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AFaithi've seen this tutorial http://www.cpqlinux.com/ddbackup.html08:48
AFaithand i'm wondering08:48
AFaithif i use this method08:48
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SlimeyPeteAFaith: I don't know how to solve your problem but I do know that people will get annoyed if you keep hitting the Return key every few words08:49
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SlimeyPetejust a friendly heads-up :)08:49
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scheurivmware-server is NOT in the repos...only the kernel-modules, right?08:49
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fullidiotnah also08:49
fullidiotgeht doch08:49
draganI saw something... at glance... I might be wrong08:49
AFaithi can backup only hda (the entire hdd) or i can set it up to backup just for my / partition (hda1)08:49
fullidiotdeuche hier?08:50
AFaithsorry SlimeyPete... my bad, but i'm on a hurry... and i'm a bit nervous08:50
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draganyou can backup just partition08:50
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dragandd if=source of=destnation08:50
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AFaithdragan: it will also backup the MBR sector ?08:51
draganyes.. it should08:51
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fullidiotehy deuche hier08:51
AFaithoh, that indeed a very good news...08:51
dragandd is DiskDupe...08:51
draganafaik08:51
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draganit duplicates content08:51
BluesKajanyone with ati try Envy yet ?08:51
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AcTpoHoMHey I got a question... let's say a friend of mine tried to help me make my ntfs partitions writeable and messed their mounting at all, so they are currently not mounted08:52
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AcTpoHoMany chance I can run something automated to remount? :>08:52
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AFaithdragan: and if I want to restore my partition, i won't get nasty surprizes with dd and make my box not working (bootable)08:52
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AFaithAcTpoHoM: edit /etc/fstab according ntfs-3g manual and then reboot :)08:53
draganAFaith: no... no surprizes08:53
AFaithi see ...08:53
AFaithbig thanks08:53
AcTpoHoMAFaith that's how we ruined it :-D08:53
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AFaithhopefully i will get kubuntu feisty to run :D tonight :P08:53
AcTpoHoMoh well, gotta read the manual I guess :)08:53
AFaithAcTpoHoM: reading man files should be the first step :P08:54
AFaithbtw, read also the FAQ on the projects web site :)08:54
AcTpoHoMI prefer doing it in the hard way :-D08:54
AcTpoHoMand yes, I'm pretty much reading (sometimes) :008:54
AFaithbig thanks dragan!08:55
AFaithi'm rebooting now :) wish me luck :)08:55
draganNP AFaith08:55
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dragan;-)08:55
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dotbl0thi!08:56
draganI need help with sources.list08:56
draganI have downloaded all 16BG with apt-mirror08:56
dragannow I want to use it08:56
draganwhole repo is on external drive in USB rack08:56
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frojndwhat else do I have to install besice beryl package to run beryl on feisty ?09:00
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ugaanyone knows what daemon is the one automounting drives? it's pretty annoying and problematic09:01
ugait will completely screw up vmware for example09:01
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ugaand it will mount any drive I manually umounted09:02
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ugauhmpf... and finally it renders the kernel unusable09:04
ugaI cannot mount the device again once it goes wrong09:04
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Lynoureuga: see http://docs.kde.org/userguide/multimedia.html09:06
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owca_hi09:09
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SlimeyPetehi09:10
yallaxxguys i need some help here.. i get grub error 21 when trying to boot..here is my menu.list and device map: http://pastebin.ca/493332 ,i installed ubuntu on sda10  i also got winxp on sda1 and vista on sda7, also i got a second hd sdb with 2 partitions on..i used to have ubuntu on that aswell09:10
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owca_hi! where I could send bug?09:13
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alonea_awayninina: Ihave better luck just doing kdesu programname in the Run command09:13
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nininaahh09:14
SlimeyPeteowca_: go to launchpad.net/ubuntu and find the package you want to file the bug against09:14
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owca_SlimeyPete: hmmm its problem with laptop cooler after resume after hibernate09:15
vagabon2Following forum advice I've gotten Kubuntu to recognize my wireless card and network, but when I try to connect to my network KNetMan hangs at 28% "configuring device".  Anyone have a similar problem and able to fix it?09:15
SlimeyPeteowca_: hmm, tricky one. I'd file it against one of the power management packages eg acpi-support. If that's the wrong place then someone will move the bug.09:16
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vadyavagabon2: what wifi card do you have?09:16
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vagabon2Broadcom 1390 - I followed advice of this forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092&highlight=dell+wireless+139009:17
ugaLynoure: sorry, I had a few probs with the machine to get usb devices working again... and even the kb is a usb one09:17
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ugaLynoure: I'll check that, but I'm pretty sure it's not kde-specific. kde doesn't mount any devices by default on any of my other hand-built versions09:17
sparrwi have volume keys on my keyboard.  can i make the volume popup translucent, or non-centered, or something?09:18
ugaunless kubuntu patched it to automagically do something...09:18
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BlackBsddoes the wireless in kubuntu use wpa_supplicant?09:18
BlackBsdif so i cant find the .conf file09:18
vagabon2Everything "appears" to be working, I just can't connect to my network - I was able to connect the same PC when running dapper (gnome desktop though)09:18
Lynoureuga: after checking you will kind of be even more sure.09:18
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BlackBsdbut wireless is working09:18
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lz1gjdcould anyone tell me how to check if some port / protocol is blocked on my kubuntu ? pls :)09:19
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Mo0oSaH in beryl when you go to top right click it brings all the windows together, how do you change it to some other corner of the screen09:20
sparrwlz1gjd: kubuntu doesnt 'block' ports or protocols.  it would just not be running a daemon on those ports09:20
ugaLynoure: the problem exists... I can confirm. The thing you pointed at is the standard kde behaviour09:20
Mo0oSaH!daemon09:20
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about daemon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:21
sparrwMo0oSaH: do you use beryl-settings-manager?09:21
ugaLynoure: a popup and ask what you want to do. This is about popup, ask what to do, I say nothing, and still mounts09:21
Mo0oSaHyes09:21
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sparrwits in there somewhere...09:21
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vadyavagabon2: you can't connect even if encription is off?09:21
lz1gjdi know its not kubuntu i used it just to justify asking in this channel :)09:21
sparrwim not running beryl right now09:21
vagabon2vadya: nope, my network doesn't have any security atm09:22
ugaLynoure: see, even vmware removes the device access, and kubuntu recovers it back09:22
lz1gjdi cant download almost anything in my dc clients, and suspect there must be something blocking them09:22
ugasomething is checking and automounting stuff09:22
Lynoureuga: I know, you asked what daemons, the page mentioned them, and some other stuff about it.09:22
ugaLynoure: ah thanks. If that's about kde services I know how to stop them09:22
ugabut I wouldn't have said it's kde services doing that09:22
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amulshi, this is mu fisrt time in a IRC channel. I just installed feisty on a dell inspiron 9400. I was wondering how I can get the "cube" working?09:22
Lynoureuga: I did not answer how to exclude, as you did not ask and I do not yet know.09:23
rothchild@vagabon2 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=452203&highlight=knetwork+manager09:23
Mo0oSaHamuls install beryl09:23
Neil-anyone know why my system locks up (mp3s play, but num lock etc stop lighting up on keyboard) when i swap out of gui using ctrl-alt-f1, then back.. its a blank screen with just a cursor09:23
Mo0oSaH!beryl > amuls09:23
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amulsi can not get that to work. Is there a xorg driver i have to install first?09:23
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Mo0oSaHamuls, i have i6000 i didnt need any drivers.  If you installed ubuntu, "cube" is already there09:24
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Mo0oSaHamuls, for kde you need to beryl.  What do you mean you can't get it to work... any details?09:24
BlackBsdhas anyone got bluetooth working??09:24
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ugaLynoure: it's easy to test. Put any drive in. The menu pops up, Asks what to do: mount, open, nothing... if you answer nothing and say okay, it still mounts09:25
ugasomething is buggy, and I cannot tell what09:25
BlackBsdi get a think on my laptop saying kbluetooth daemon is running09:25
vadyalz1gjd: maybe "sudo iptables --list" would help?09:25
amulsi install it and it just does nothin gdifferently. I can not see wobbly windows or a turning cube.09:25
lz1gjdvadya: thx09:26
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Lynoureuga: ?? I'm not saying it does not happen09:27
ugaLynoure: it seems to be the kded service manager09:27
ugasome patching done by kubuntu09:27
vagabon2rothchild: Huh, dhclient eth1 indeed works, but knetMan still shows me as disconnected, just as the guy in the forum describes - I don't know enough about what I'm doing to understand why that would be, but I can handle a terminal command to get connected, so thanks!09:27
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ugaLynoure: sorry, kded media manager, I meant09:28
Lynoureuga: I'm not even a ubuntu-dev and bug reports go to Launchpad anyway09:28
amulsMoOoSaH: beryl and beryl-manager are installed, what more should i do09:28
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ugaLynoure: okay, sorry. I thought you were09:28
Lynoureuga: And if you put an noauto for it into /etc/fstab ?09:28
Lynoureuga: any difference?09:28
draganI need help with sources.list09:28
draganI have downloaded all 16BG with apt-mirror09:29
dragannow I want to use it09:29
draganwhole repo is on external drive in USB rack09:29
ugaLynoure: the device isn't mentioned there. It's detected by hal09:29
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ugaLynoure: ie, fstab doesn't specify where the device will go mounted. It's kde that mounts it under /media09:30
Lynoureuga: make a new line for it09:30
ugayes, the problem is the device isn't always the same09:30
ugasometimes it'll be sdb, some other times sdf...09:30
ugadepending how many other usb fs devices are plugged09:30
mrwizrdhey everyone09:30
rothchildI thought it was something to do with the wallet manager asking for passwords at the same time as knetwork manager should be asking for the wpa password09:31
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ugaLynoure: anyway, I stopped the kded media manager service from kcontrol and now I can control it fine09:31
ugait just shouldn't do this. Not sure what happens09:31
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_Shade_hi09:32
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Neil-anyone know why my system locks up (mp3s play, but num lock etc stop lighting up on keyboard) when i swap out of gui using ctrl-alt-f1, then back.. its a blank screen with just a cursor...09:32
_Shade_can anyone tell me please why I can't browse any website using konqueror in 7.04?09:33
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ugaNeil-: Ive seen the same thing when using a second xorg session09:33
ugaNeil-: are you on nvidia binary drivers too?09:33
Mo0oSaHamuls just run beryl-manager09:33
Neil-Yeah :)09:33
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Neil-It seems to only do it in beryl.. things arent perfect without tho, I can't resume from hibernate on this system either..09:34
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Neil-suspend* rather09:34
amulsMoOoSaH: i did run beryl-manager, and then what? nothing visual is happening?09:34
Neil-gives me the same blank screen mentioned above09:34
ugaNeil-: I haven't tested, but if you go for the nv driver the problem may go09:34
uga(although you'll miss any acceleration)09:35
Neil-I can't use the nv driver :( X just starts, and it goes all corrupted09:35
ugaoh, too bad09:35
Neil-Bit lame really :D09:35
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mrwizrdis there a specific channel for virtualisation related issues?09:35
Mo0oSaHare you sure you have all the beryl packages?09:36
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ugaNeil-: you could try with the latest beta driver from nvidia too09:36
amulsMoOoSaH: not at all, I have done apt-get install beryl beryl-manager09:36
_Shade_as you can see i've manage to connect to the internet, so why i can't browse any websites?09:37
Neil-Cool, how would I get hold of that? At the moment I'm using nvidia-glx from the repositories.. its a 7800GT09:37
_Shade_only the websites' icons show up and that's all09:37
Mo0oSaHamuls what kind of graphics card do you have?09:37
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ugaNeil-: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.03.html09:38
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mrwizrd<_Shade_> : Have you tried any other browsers?09:38
amulsMoOoSaH: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X140009:38
Mo0oSaHthat's good09:38
Mo0oSaHamuls try this:  sudo apt-get install emerald-themes09:38
Neil-uga: Aren't there issues with messing with both nvidia-glx and the nvidia binaries?09:38
Neil-Don't want to break anything =d09:38
Mo0oSaHamuls i think you didnt install any theme manager for beryls09:38
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amulsMo0oSaH: emerald-themes is installed09:39
ugaNeil-: if you don't want to take risks, better keep what kubuntu gives you, heh09:39
_Shade_mrwizrd: i cant because i'm on a live session now, and i have my harddisks unpluged :) if i try to dl firefox my kubuntu locks up09:39
amulsMo0oSaH:  as beryl-manager09:39
owca_SlimeyPete: thanks, I reported bug, have nice evening :)09:39
Mo0oSaHamuls when you run beryl-manager do you get the diamond in the tray?09:39
Mo0oSaHor nothing happens at all09:39
amulsMo0oSaH: no09:39
_Shade_*unplugged09:39
ugaNeil-: there was some site explaining how to avoid the nvidia binary setup  to get overwritten by ubuntu packs... but I cannot recall where09:40
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mrwizrd<_Shade_>: There's no way you can get back into a regular session?09:40
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amulsMo0oSaH: it is there when i run it from a shell, not from th emenu. So now I have got iit09:40
Neil-uga: Thanks for your help :d09:40
uganp09:40
Mo0oSaHamuls does it seem to work now09:41
_Shade_mrwizrd: not now because i have broken an ata connector ;/09:41
amulsMo0oSaH: still nothin, the diamond is there but I see nothing visual changing eg when I change desktop09:41
Mo0oSaHamuls: if not then right click the diamond and make sure beryl is selected as windows manager09:41
_Shade_mrwizrd:  i have to use livecd09:41
mrwizrd<_Shade_>: Ouch... sucks..09:41
mrwizrdbrb09:42
amulsMo0oSaH: when in select the beryl as the window manager, than the screen redraws but nothing happens. If I check on the windowmanager it is still kwin09:43
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amulsMo0oSaH: i get these errors09:44
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amulsXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".09:44
amulsChecking for non power of two texture support   : failed09:44
Mo0oSaHamuls tbh i have no idea what those mean09:44
sergiomrquit09:45
Mo0oSaHamuls if the screen redraws the beryl is trying to work but for some reason it crashes.  try to uncheck the fallback window09:45
Mo0oSaHif beryl crashes09:45
mrwizrdcan anyone help me with a virtualisation problem i'm having?09:46
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Mo0oSaHmrwizrd just ask the question09:46
mrwizrdokay.. so09:46
rysiek|plhi guys09:46
mrwizrdI'm trying to run Live Messenger09:46
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mrwizrdusing the methods shown at09:46
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rysiek|pldid anyone get Logitech Bluetooth Wireless Hub to work under (k)Ubuntu? I have connected it, the mouse works AOK (I didn't test the keyboard yet, though), but it doesn't show as a bluetooth hub O_o' hciconfig -a shows nothing, google's silent09:47
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mrwizrdhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization09:47
chuanhey guys09:48
rysiek|plwhen I connect some other Bt dongle, I get a msg "New Bluetooth device connected" almost instantly09:48
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mrwizrdand.. I can't get host-only networking to work09:48
mrwizrdI tried it in VMware first09:49
jkollingany good roooms to chat in?09:49
mrwizrdi'm looking at trying Qemu#09:49
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mrwizrdalso, is there a way to get read/write access to my existing xp installation inside the VM?09:50
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j03z0ranyone want to chat?09:50
ugamrwizrd: you could smbmount the drive if you share it09:50
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ugamrwizrd: at least that works in vmware, so it should under qemu too, I guess09:51
rysiek|plj03z0r: uhm... try some off-topic channel09:51
rysiek|pltoo late :)09:51
mrwizrdI have chat logs from september or so last year09:51
mrwizrdand i'd like to keep them coherent09:51
mrwizrdwhich is why i'm trying to keep Live Messenger09:52
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yallaxxhm..is there a other bootloader i can install from within vista or xp?09:52
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mrwizrdIt's all I want, so if I can get that and my eyetoy cam working, i'm blowing xp away and running those apps in a seamless vm09:52
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mrwizrdforget that problem for now, actually09:54
mrwizrdanybody here have an eyetoy camera working under 7.04?09:54
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Aloneamrwizrd: nope..i wish I did though09:55
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mrwizrdI had it working under 6.0609:56
mrwizrdwith an older version of the source09:56
mrwizrdbut the newer one... doesnt seem to work for me09:57
mrwizrdit's missing ov519_decomp.ko09:57
SolifugusIs there a way to install a .deb package such that it automatically installs all the required dependencies?09:57
SolifugusIsntead of tell me that they are not installed.09:58
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mrwizrd<Alonea> : how far did you get?09:58
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mrwizrdThe guide i found asks for two modules, and the updated tarball only has one of them10:00
mrwizrdso... only the microphone seems to work10:00
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Solifugusseriously.. kubuntu has no way of automatically dealing with package dependencies?!10:03
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raulhola10:04
trprSolifugus: apt-get handles the dependencies automatically.. what are you trying to do?10:04
draganI need help with sources.list10:05
draganI have downloaded all 16BG with apt-mirror10:05
BluesKajSolifugus: I found a trick that seems to work. After trying to install a pkg in the cli that lacks some deps , i open synaptic and it auto detects what was needed as a broken pkg and will install10:06
dragannow I want to use it10:06
draganwhole repo is on external drive in USB rack10:06
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trprBluesKaj: hey not a bad idea. i wonder how it can be done from apt. seems sort of silly a work around like that is required :\10:06
BluesKajit worked with tovid and some others10:07
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sercik!ntfs-3g10:09
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions10:09
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mrwizrdAlonea, I just got the eyetoy working in 7.04!10:12
mrwizrdaudio and video10:12
cox377_anyone use headless azureus or the web admin?10:12
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lab10Hello, Halo, Hola10:15
lab10???10:15
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lab10Somebody??????????????'10:17
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mrwizrdwhat's wrong lab10?10:17
vbgunzcan someone help me understand. I installed "ubuntu-restricted-extras gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg" and cannot play wmv files or any DVD :(10:18
NiceGuyUK!codecs10:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:18
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NiceGuyUKvbgunz: that info above should help10:18
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vbgunzthanks, it seems I need libdvdcss2 for DVD but trying to figure out wmv10:19
NiceGuyUK!plf10:19
ubotuThe Penguin Liberation Front is dedicated to distributing software that cannot be included in Linux distributions for various reasons - See http://plf.zarb.org/ (not yet fully functioning) - See also !Medibuntu and !Seveas10:19
NiceGuyUKvbgunz: dvdcss stuff from the above :)10:19
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NiceGuyUKwmv too probably - use the w32codecs package from there10:20
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leiari've reset the root password sudo passwd root, and I seem to have forgotten it. What do i do?10:21
vbgunzso what are these for "ubuntu-restricted-extras gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg"?10:21
NiceGuyUKleiar: just do sudo passwd root again ;)10:22
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leiarNiceGuyUK: I am not a sudouser, nor the local user is...10:22
NiceGuyUKvbgunz: those are other plugins that are restricted, but not quite *as* restricted as the others10:22
giannyi have am error installing ati driver on feisty10:23
NiceGuyUKleiar: how you end up like that in Ubuntu?10:23
giannyi have this error: Error running install command for fglrx10:23
NiceGuyUKleiar: or are you trying to do something you shouldn't on someone else's box? ;-)10:23
giannyanyone can helpme?10:23
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leiarNiceGuyUK: I'm not sure. My goal was to prevent the local user to do installations, I changed the root passwd and removed the local user from sudoers10:24
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NiceGuyUK!root10:24
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:25
NiceGuyUKmight be something in there10:25
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Fenix|workGreetings... I've got a beryl/skydome question.  My skydome is coming up white.  My image is 2048x512 and xwinfo says max XvImage size is 2048x2048 ... what am I missing?10:26
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Fenix|workxvinfo sorry10:26
sercikhi10:26
serciksomeone know how to mount a ntfs without sudo??10:27
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NiceGuyUKsercik: quick answer is to add "users" to the fstab entry for that partition10:27
NiceGuyUKmore detailed help in a minutre when I finish looking somethign up for someone :)10:28
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sercikHi NiceGuyUK i have added user i remember user10:28
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serciknow i try with users10:28
Solifugustrpr: I am trying to install a program called "Referencer".. I downloaded their ubuntu package for feisty fawn, which is what I am running.. "apt-get -f install ..." also tells me it has unmet dependencies.. shouldn't it just get those, too?10:28
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sercik"/dev/sda1       /media/usbhd    ntfs-3g  user,defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0"10:28
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sercikNiceGuyUK: do you think is ok??10:29
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Solifugustrpr: This package http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=79010:29
BluesKajis virtual box more versatile and useable than qemu ?10:29
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NiceGuyUKsercik: permissions on the mountpoint ok too ?10:30
NiceGuyUKleiar: can't find the answer in my big sysadmin book, sorry10:30
serciki have noticed that when i mount partition automatically the owner became root10:30
serciknow i have changed user to users10:30
NiceGuyUKwhat about the umask ?10:31
sercikand seems working THANK YOU10:31
NiceGuyUKah, ok10:31
NiceGuyUK:)10:31
serciknow i have another problem10:31
NiceGuyUKI wish #kubuntu had karma points for ansering questions :-D10:31
serciki want to share that hd with samba10:31
draganNiceGuyUK: can you help with local mirrored repo setting?10:31
serciki have added to share but from other pc can't enter inside it10:31
BluesKajsercik: dl and install 'ntfs-config' and you can set user permissions etc with it10:31
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serciki have already installed ntfs-config10:32
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sercikthe problem is samba and not ntfs-3g i can't browse HD10:32
monzie one doubt:10:32
BluesKajthe run it on your ntfs partition...you also need ntfs-3g10:32
NiceGuyUKdragan: sorry, not done that in Ubuntu yet.  Did it in Gentoo before10:32
monzieis /bin/sh in kubuntu 7.04 actually bash?10:32
dragandarn10:33
sercikBluesKaj: i have already done all that10:33
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monzieis /bin/sh in kubuntu 7.04 actually bash?10:33
sercikdon't you see the line above10:33
sercikthe only problem now is samba10:33
Sannemonzie: I remember reading it got changed to dash10:33
draganI need help in setting sources.list for that local repo10:33
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monzieSanne: i saw that.. what is dash?10:33
Sannemonzie: another shell, as I read (I'm still on dapper, so I can't check)10:34
NiceGuyUKdash - shell optimized for speed10:34
NiceGuyUKzsh is better10:34
NiceGuyUKdragan: you tried www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror10:34
NiceGuyUK?10:34
sercikSomeone understand this?? 7307: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)10:34
monzieSanne: what is it on dapper?10:34
NiceGuyUKsercik: remote share doesn't exist?10:35
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serciki have tried to mount with smb4k from the same pc that share10:35
Sannemonzie: I think it's bash10:35
draganNiceGuyUK: nope... I will now :-) 10x10:35
NiceGuyUKnp10:35
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NiceGuyUKI try to help in here, but people should really make more use of Google.  That's how I find info to pass on here ;-)10:35
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draganahhhh that.... yes... I have used first part... downloading with apt-mirror10:36
Sannemonzie: here's a bug about that, I think it got introduced with edgy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dash/+bug/6146310:36
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ValmarkoHi. I'd like to upgrade to Kubuntu 7.04 but I dont know how. Any help, please ?10:36
draganbut I want to use those files... WITHOUT apache... like say DVD...10:37
hitmanWilly!upgrade | Valmarko10:37
ubotuValmarko: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)10:37
Sannemonzie: yup, /bin/sh points to /bin/bash on dapper10:37
sercikNiceGuyUK: now i can umount as user but i can't mount10:37
ValmarkohitmanWilly, thanks10:37
hitmanWillynp10:37
sercikthe problem is ntfs-3g??10:37
NiceGuyUKsercik: nope, its probably just config10:38
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NiceGuyUKsercik: you got a umask on that fstab entry ?10:38
NiceGuyUK!umask10:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:38
sercikno10:38
serciki have pasted the line before10:38
serciki can past again.........10:38
sercik"/dev/sda1 /media/usbhd ntfs-3g users,defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0"10:39
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NiceGuyUKadd umask=0 to give everyone permissions10:39
BluesKajsercik: ' sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt ', then ,' sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount '10:39
NiceGuyUKBluesKaj: +s is SetUID ?10:40
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draganNiceGuyUK: yes I have used that... and done first part.. downloaded whole repo... but I want to use it without apache... so the path for it will not start with http://localIP but file:///media/whatever...10:40
NiceGuyUKnot sure if it supports that10:41
sercikUff! if i do mount usbhdthe directory not mounts and no errors i see10:41
serciksimply nothing10:41
BluesKajit's not particularly secure , NiceGuyUK, but for a samll home network behind a router , it should be ok .10:42
NiceGuyUKyeah, I guess10:42
NiceGuyUKok, time to spend less time with Linux, more time with fiancee....see ya tomorrow guys!10:42
dragan!mirror10:43
ubotuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php10:43
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dragan!repo10:43
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:43
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dragan!apt-mirror10:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-mirror - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:43
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dogatemycomputer!apache10:46
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:46
Valmarkoumm... I have Kubuntu 6.10, with the latest updates but I still cant upgrade to 7.04. No 'full upgrade' button active. Do I need to include something in repos manager?10:47
ValmarkoThe version of kde is 3.5.510:47
Valmarko'edgy-updates' are enabled10:48
Fenix|workI'm using Feisty Fawn... after doing updates my sound stopped working... how do I fix it?10:50
ValmarkoI enabled edgy-backports and edgy-security too10:50
Fenix|workworked with a fresh install10:50
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thehoundHello have quick question10:51
userundgo10:52
thehoundI had to downgrade xserver and now adept keeps wanting to upgrade me10:52
thehoundany way to shut it up?10:52
ValmarkoThe problem is solved :) I needed to fetch updates again, after reboot. :)10:52
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thehoundI'll rephrase. I'm asking how to opt out of an update permenently10:54
thehoundthe new xserver kills my drivers10:54
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crimsunthehound: use dpkg/aptitude to put the package(s) on hold.10:54
thehoundon hold?10:55
thehoundnever heard of that10:55
thehoundI did lock in synaptic10:55
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ValmarkoWhat is the latest version of KDE currently available on 7.04 ?10:57
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crimsunValmarko: stable? 3.5.6.10:57
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Valmarkocrimsun, thanks10:58
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voidmagehow's support for geforce 8600?10:59
chxw says 2 users but only lists one user and as far as I am aware , only I am logged in10:59
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usuariooi10:59
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usuarioTem algum a???10:59
usuarioHello???10:59
warez__slt a tous10:59
usuarioQue???11:00
usuarioOq vc disse???11:00
usuarioEu no entendi!11:00
usuarioFala de novo!11:00
usuarioRpido... fala logo!11:00
usuarioEu t esperando!!!11:00
usuarioSer que tem algum a pra falar comigo???11:00
usuarioEu no vai ter ningum???11:00
usuarioPuxxxaaaa...11:00
dthackeris there a utility that will convert .ogg files to mp3?11:00
usuario...algum est lendo minhas mensagens???11:00
usuarioTem algum a???11:00
usuarioFala comigo!11:00
usuarioFala logo!11:01
Valmarkocrimsun, suppose I want to test the alpha version of kde 4, without removing 3.5.6. Is it possible ?11:01
usuarioMP3???11:01
crimsunValmarko: perhaps.  nixternal  /may/  have alpha1 debs ready.11:01
usuarioConvert MP3 to WMA???11:01
Valmarkothank you again, crimsun11:01
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Fenix|workAfter upgrading from a fresh install sound stopped working, what do I need to do to fix it? Does it have to do with alsa and a new kernel?11:02
usuarioI like of convert MP3 to WMA!!!11:02
dthackerand there was much rejoicing....11:03
crimsunFenix|work: probably.  More likely it's a stale state file.  Please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.11:03
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Fenix|workcrimsun, http://pastebin.ca/49358911:06
crimsunFenix|work: amixer set 'External Amplifier' mute11:07
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Fenix|workcrimsun, nothing11:08
Fenix|workdo I need to restart the sound system?11:08
crimsunFenix|work: ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav'' is inaudible?11:08
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Fenix|workcrimsun, yes11:09
DonMCNhey every body11:09
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DonMCNcan you lead me to some directions on how i would go about partitioning my kubuntu partition into a smaller one so that i can put windows on that new one11:10
Fenix|workcrimsun, playback channels: Mono, Mono: Playback [off] 11:10
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Fenix|workdoes that mean no sound is playing with mono?11:10
DonMCNi only have kubuntu on my pc right now, and the hard drive is under 2 partitions, linux and swap11:10
BluesKajcrimsun: try this tuorial, it helped me,  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)11:10
crimsunFenix|work: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer*);sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}')&&sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state&&sudo modprobe snd-intel8x011:10
DonMCNi want to edit the Linux partition to be a smaller one so that i can install windows11:11
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DonMCNCan somebody just lead me to a Partition Manager inside of Kubuntu?11:12
cpk1DonMCN: try qtparted or gparted11:12
BluesKajDonMCN: download , install and burn GParted Live CD partition editor...it's the best  and most stable11:12
DonMCNIn the Konsole?11:12
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Cugeldonmcn: only the gparted live cd seems to work for me.11:12
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cpk1DonMCN: sure, if you want its a gui so it will open one up11:12
Fenix|workcrimsun, now what? :)11:12
cpk1a window that is11:12
DonMCNI need something that will run off of my existing Kubuntu, I do not have any blank CDs at the moment.11:13
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crimsunFenix|work: same aplay command11:13
AutoMatriXhi folks, going to buy a new laptop, one of these days, comebody can tell me where to find a list of Linux-frienly components ?11:13
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flamiHi , I tried Knetworkmanager but it doesnt seem to recognize my wlan card ( eth0) its a intel 2915 agb , anywhere where i could look up what might be the problem ?11:13
cpk1DonMCN: qtparted or gparted11:14
flamithe wlan works though ( i wouldnt be in here without ^^ )11:14
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HymnToLifeAutoMatriX, anything should do, prefer a nvidia graphics card11:14
cpk1qt uses the qt libraries (kde) and g uses gtk libraries (gnome) either will work11:14
DonMCNAlright, thanks. I am in the middle of downloading qtparted right now from Konsole using "sudo apt-get install qtparted".. thank you :)11:14
Fenix|workcrimsun, nothing11:14
crimsunFenix|work: repaste your amixer11:15
AutoMatriXHymnToLife:  nvidia has got a better support than the ati's ?11:15
Fenix|workrun that script again?11:15
Fenix|workok11:15
leiarI have to load two modules in order to get my wireless card to work. I've put them in /etc/modules. But it seems they do not start. modprobe ipw2100 and modprobe fsam70011:15
Fenix|workgive me a sec11:15
HymnToLifemuch better11:15
crimsunFenix|work: no need, just ``amixer''11:15
AutoMatriXHymnToLife: tx, I'll take note of that11:16
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Fenix|workcrimsun, http://pastebin.ca/49361611:18
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lupulhi there11:18
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rojanuHi! I am having problems with my AR5005G atheros card11:19
lupuldoes anyone know why if i enable guarddog konversation doesn't connect anymore on kubuntu irc channel?11:19
crimsunFenix|work: ok, and toggling 'External Amplifier' has no effect?11:19
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lupuli selected the protocol, i added the 8001 port but nothing11:19
Fenix|workI toggled like you said and nothing11:19
Fenix|workdid I toggle wrong?11:19
crimsunFenix|work: try toggling it again11:19
Fenix|workcmd?11:19
crimsunoff -> on11:19
SanneAutoMatriX: there's also this, in case you haven't found it already: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryHardware11:19
crimsunamixer set 'External Amplifier' unmute11:20
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dogatemycomputerhey.. is there by any chance a gui for apache2?   I assume most web admins actually configure it themselves manually?11:20
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DonMCNAlright I just downloaded and install QtParted, and now I cannot open it by using command qtparted in the "Run Command" dialog or in Konsole using the same command.11:20
flamiif you want a gui for apache you might want to try ispconfig , or syscp11:20
rayludogatemycomputer, there may be some third party ones11:21
flamiits little "helpers" that help administer the server11:21
AutoMatriXSanne: tx so much, THAT was exactly I was looking for :D11:21
rayluDonMCN, kdesu11:21
SanneAutoMatriX: heh, you're welcome :)11:21
dogatemycomputerflami: would you suggest buying the book and doing it manually as a good learning experience?  or do most web admins use the gui?11:21
DonMCNOkay raylu, I went to Run Command and typed in "kdesu qtparted" and that didn't work.11:21
Fenix|workcrimsun, nothing11:21
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rayluyou don't need a book to configure apache...11:22
rayluDonMCN, what did it do?11:22
raylu(I suggest running it in a konsole)11:22
flamidogatemycomputer, yes you need to know how apache works11:22
dogatemycomputerraylu: honestly.. the documentation on apache's website isn't very intuitive for a newbie..11:22
flamithe gui is just to speed things up , the hardest part is to make it secure ( e.g. chroot )11:22
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rayluunless you have no experience with this at all, you should do what I do and just go in and poke around11:22
dogatemycomputerflami: then I shall figure it out manually..11:23
rayluthe worst case scenario is you screw up apache...11:23
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Fenix|lappycrimsun, I'm at a loss11:23
DonMCNOkay I went through Konsole, and typed in kdesu qtparted and it brung up a little thing that says "Getting devices" and disappears.11:23
flamiif you screw up : aptitude purge apache2 && aptitude install apache211:23
lupulok so what do i do to let konversation through guarddog?11:23
thehoundsorry had to run. But anyways, is there no way to tell adept to stop trying to upgrade specific packages? I pressed version lock in synaptic11:23
thehoundbut it still bugs me with the red !11:24
dogatemycomputerraylu: i have *zero* experience with apache and i'm also relatively new to linux.. ;)  i just want some documentation before I get started.   I'm trying to understand not only the 'how' but the 'why' so i'm hoping some decent reading material (beyond the FAQ) will give me some insight.    If you have a good web resource then i'm all for that too..11:24
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lupulwhat do i do to let konversation through guarddog?  please11:24
DonMCNOh well I finally got qtparted to open, but it won't let me do anything to it because the status is "busy"11:26
cpk1try gparted =P11:26
DonMCNCan I use the partition manager on the Linux CD?11:26
flamidogatemycomputer,  if you want a good MTA : postfix ;) good antispam : amavisd-new ( with postfix + clamav ) ^^11:26
cpk1or if you are feeling good about yourself you can try parted =D11:27
cpk1DonMCN: sure11:27
leiarI'm trying to start two modules in boot by putting them in /etc/modules. It doesn't seem to work. I think it is because you have to be root to run them. Any suggestions?11:27
crimsunFenix|lappy: conf call ATM11:27
DonMCNokay. and i have another quick question. is there a way i can make it so that Windows boots up by default instead of Kubuntu after I install it?11:27
rayludonMCN, /etc/grub/menu.lst11:28
cpk1yes11:28
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Fenix|lappycrimsun, k11:28
dthackerdogatemycomputer: look the postfix howto for ubuntu server on http://www.howtoforge.com11:28
lupulwhat do i do to let konversation through guarddog? pls pls11:28
cpk1DonMCN: just to let you know installing windows is going fsck grub up anyways so read up before you do11:28
DonMCNokay, and now that i think about it. when i'm going to install windows, its going to put in a new boot record and it will only load windows and won't give me a choice. how do i change this?11:28
rayluyou can boot into the linux live cd and reinstall grub after installing windows11:29
leiarThese laptops with kubuntu on are to be used by teachers. I don't want to instruct them to go into konsole write sudo modprob ipw2100 ....11:29
thehoundis there a link for what I'm trying to do? I been to Google over and over11:29
cpk1!grub | DonMCN11:29
ubotuDonMCN: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:29
thehounduseless information11:29
DonMCNwell, thank you very much :)11:29
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cpk1DonMCN: make sure you are educated before you do it so you arent in a panic =)11:29
ValmarkoI'm not a programmer I dont mean to criticize but ... adept manager is so confusing. It could have a much better and intuitive interface. Just a suggestion11:29
leiaranybody who can help me getting modprobe ipw2100 and modprobe fsam7400 to start at boot?11:29
wsjuniorkmail don't ask the phrase for decipher encrypted e-mails, is it a know problem?11:30
thehoundyeah the red ! is my problem11:30
thehoundwith adept11:30
thehoundand see nothing to exclude updates11:30
Fenix|lappycrimsun, brb in 5min11:30
thehoundsynaptic has a version lock11:30
cpk1I know aptitude will let you hold versions11:30
thehoundhow do I do it?11:30
thehoundI typed "ubuntu putting packages on hold"11:31
thehoundin Google11:31
flamileiar,  cant you just write a bashscript that runs the 2 commands ??11:31
thehoundI think adept runs off aptitude11:31
raylunot if they require root access11:31
raylui think he'd have to put it in one of the rc scripts11:31
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leiarflami: I've put them in /etc/modules , so they should be launched in boot, but it sems you have to be root to run them11:32
cpk1thehound: aptitude hold i think will do it11:33
leiarflami: If i make a bashscript. Where do I put the scipt to get it launched during boot11:33
thehoundok I'll give it a go11:33
Fenix|lappycrimsun, back11:33
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cpk1thehound: if its  a specific version you dont want you can use forbid-version11:33
lupuldoes anyone know a very good firewall?11:33
cpk1lupul: iptables11:34
wsjuniorkmyfirewall11:34
thehoundwell xorg 7.1 works with latest ati drivers11:34
thehound7.2 crashes the whole system11:34
thehoundand can only use vesa11:34
lupulthanks11:34
lupulsomething more simple?11:34
rayluleiar, ~/.kde/Autostart11:34
lupuli ment simpleer11:34
flamileiar,  update-rc.d FOO defaults   http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/11:35
cpk1leiar: you could probably just put them in /etc/rc.local11:35
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rayluthehound, which ati driver are you using?11:35
thehoundproprietary11:35
thehoundit's a must11:35
rayluso...try the other one?11:35
thehoundwith my card11:35
thehoundthe open drivers crash xserver11:35
rayluoh.11:35
chijinthehound: are you by any chance using 1280*960 res?11:35
wsjuniorHow to make kmail decrypt encrypted emails? It seems that it isnt using gpg-agent daemon..11:36
rayluhm. i had the opposite11:36
thehoundno 1024x76811:36
leiarwow, thanks all three. I'll try etc/rc.local, because I want them to be executed for all users11:36
rayluwsjunior, is using Kmail a must?11:36
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leiarIt seems I have to be root to run modprobe, how do I change that?11:37
wsjuniorraylu: no, but i would like to11:37
DonMCNI tried to open up /etc/grub/menu.lst and it says No such File or Directory11:37
cpk1leiar: rc.local should run it all as root11:38
cpk1DonMCN: its in /boot not /etc11:38
DonMCNOh, earlier somebody gave me /etc/grub/menu.lst lol11:38
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rayluleiar, why would you want to?11:38
rayluoh, sorry DonMCN :(11:38
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leiarraylu: because I've a problem with the wireless device. It won't load unless i start these two modules11:39
DonMCNNo problem11:39
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DonMCNBut /boot/grub/menu.lst is very confusing. I'll probably screw something up trying to make Windows boot by default.11:39
rayluDonMCN, one of the lines says "default 0"11:40
rayluIIRC. actually, let me check11:40
leiarDonMCN: I think the lines you are looking for is the last lines11:40
cpk1DonMCN: keep in mind that a lot of the lines that have # arent actually commented out11:40
DonMCNdefault011:40
DonMCN?11:40
thehoundit somewhat worked. red triangle but none are in list11:41
rayluyeah, that's correct. just change it to whichever one is Windows11:41
thehound1 more thing11:41
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thehoundif I ever want to undo this hold what do I need to do?11:41
raylubut you should install Windows first, DonMCN11:41
thehoundsay ati fixes their software11:41
DonMCNyes I know11:41
DonMCNI'm just exploring.11:41
DonMCNand how will I know which one Windows will be?11:41
DonMCNbecause after I install Windows, I will have to restore GRUB, I know that, but then I will open up this file and no nothing about how to change Windows to default bootup.11:42
rayluwell...hopefully, you're not just randomly partitioning and installing to random partitions...11:42
DonMCNNo, I know good how to work partitions and such11:42
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DonMCNbut I'm very new still to Linux11:42
rayluthe number after default refers to the number of the entry in the menu.lst11:43
rayluthe first one for me (0) starts with: titleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic11:43
rayluthe second one (1) starts with: titleWindows XP (loader)11:43
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rayluso if i wanted windows to be default, i'd change the value to 111:43
DonMCNOkay, can you tell me where I can paste my menu.lst file for you to take a look at?11:43
raylu!pastebin11:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:44
cpk1DonMCN: the channel topic has a link11:44
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raylubut i think you should worry about it after installing windows11:44
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lupulhalo11:44
Ahmucki am looking for an alarm clock on kde.  something i can set the time for 30, 10, 30, 10, etc.11:44
Daisuke_Idobest bet is using savedefault, that way it will default to whatever you used last11:44
DonMCNPaste URL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21344/11:44
rayluwhat's 30, 10, Ahmuck?11:45
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DonMCNAlright raylu, I will install Windows, and then fix GRUB and then I will come back here, and repaste my menu.lst and will you help me with it?11:46
rayluyes...if I'm still here.11:46
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Ahmuck30 min, 10 min, 30 min, etc.11:46
wsjuniorDo i need to install/start anything than gpg-agent --daemon to make kmail to be able to ask for pass to decrypt encrypted messages?11:46
raylufixing grub is a rather simple matter, so it shouldn't be hard to find help with that11:46
DonMCNI already know how to fix GRUB :)11:46
rayluAhmuck, you mean on ever 30th and 10th minute?11:47
raylu*configuring11:47
raylu*every11:47
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Ahmuckraylu: yes11:47
Ahmuckalternating11:47
DonMCNI'm thinking about just Installing windows, by letting it take over everything, and then reinstalling Kubuntu. Just in case.11:47
DonMCNSo I don't get lost, because I had Windows before.11:47
rayluthat would be a rather large waste of time11:48
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DonMCNI know, but it makes it easier for me to understand things.11:48
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rayluAhmuck, I suppose it's possible to do it yourself with a crontab11:48
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DonMCNand let's me do things in an order in which i'm comfortable with11:48
rayluer...how does letting the kubuntu install script configure everything make you understand it?11:48
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DonMCNwhat i'm doing is letting Windows take over the entire drive when I'm installing it, and then after I install windows (and update) I will install Kubuntu, but I will manually partition things in the Kubuntu11:49
rayluAhmuck, have you tried kalarm?11:49
Ahmucki'll try it11:50
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raylubut you already have kubuntu installed...11:50
DonMCNyeah I know lol11:50
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rayluso...don't do it...11:50
DonMCNIts hard to explain it makes things easier for me lol11:50
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AhmuckDonMCN: partition windows, /home / and /swap11:50
leiarDonMCN: I think it is wise. Linux let other os stay alive on the machine. Windows is not that kind. Start with windows to make it easier11:51
rayluput it another way; this is not a good learning experience11:51
raylubut he's already started with kubuntu...11:51
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DonMCNOnce I get all this done, my way, is there a way I can dual-boot Kubuntu and Windows?11:53
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purpleposeidonagh, need help11:53
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purpleposeidonthere was a power outage...11:54
purpleposeidonand now a bunch of crap is happening11:54
rayluDonMCN, yes...of course11:54
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purpleposeidonI can't login w/ neither xdm or kdm11:54
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AutoMatriXpurpleposeidon: restore power first :D11:55
purpleposeidonwhen it starts up, it says something like 'file truncated to 0 bytes, > 0'...11:55
purpleposeidonI have. :b11:55
Fenix|lappycrimsun, just to let you know... I rebooted, now sound works.11:55
Ahmuckanyone using joomla on kubuntu?11:56
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purpleposeidonAutoMatriX: this is IRC, not india.11:56
Fenix|lappyanyway... time to go home... thanks again for all your help crimsun.  It's appreciated11:57
AutoMatriXpurpleposeidon: I know, but I think you shouldt tell that to your computer, to be sure :p11:57
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purpleposeidonah, a temporary solution has hit me in the head with itself.11:58
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leiarHere's my problem (challenge): I'm a computer assistant on three scools. I want to give the teachers latops with Kubuntu, but I dont want them to be able to install software. How do I prevent them from being a sudo user? Can I just change the root password?11:59
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rayluyou could just edit the sudoers file12:00
DragnslcrYou could create a login for them that isn't in the sudoers file12:00
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rayluchanging the root password does nothing since sudo refers to your own password12:00
rayluor what he said :P12:00
ubuntu__Ok need help. Firewall hosed ubuntu, and now I'm on my live cd, question: How to back up files?12:00
raylucopy...paste?12:00
ubuntu__Kubuntu, sorry.12:00
DragnslcrI'm impressed that a firewall could break an operating system12:01
ubuntu__Ah, nope. Cannot access HDD, in fact, don't know how to locate.12:01
ubuntu__Thought it was hda112:01
marko_anyone here cracked hd dvd12:01
ubuntu__This thing sees it as /dev/sda112:01
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ubuntu__This is Kubuntu 7.0412:02
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rayluubuntu__, so mount that..12:02
raylu(my hda1 and 2 magically became sda1 and 2 in 7 also12:02
raylu)12:02
purpleposeidonwell, I think I found a problem.... ran out of space on /home12:02
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lupulcan someone help me please?12:03
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lupulhow do i connect via openssl to kopete?12:03
Dragnslcrraylu- are they SATA drives?12:03
ubuntu__well, no response.12:03
NininaHello~!12:03
lupulhow do i transfer the image to the computer i'm on?12:03
rayluno. it's a laptop with 1 hd, afaik12:03
rayluand they were hda before12:03
raylulupul, that makes no sense. ssl to kopete? you mean ssl to the machine running kopete and dcop it?12:04
ubuntu__so the run command is kdesu mount /dev/sda1?12:04
DragnslcrEdgy may have mounted SATA drives as hd* (just guessing)12:04
lupulyes12:04
Nininadoes anyone know about the error that causes KNetworkManager stall at 28% when connecting to a wireless network?12:04
rayluubuntu__, no, sudo12:04
purpleposeidonmaybe a restart will make happyness12:04
komakinoHi! Just trie dto install kubuntu 7.04m but when booting up the live CD i get the error message "no greeter widget plugin loaded" or something like that. Very few hits on google, so i thought i should try here. I guess something with KDE. Any ideas?12:05
Dragnslcrlupul- you could install a VNC server12:05
rayluperhaps. there is a docking station with a bay for a second HD, so I suppose it _may_ be sata12:05
lupulbut can't i do it from ssl?12:05
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lupulat work i'm using putty. and from time to time i have to connect to my pc12:05
purpleposeidonlupul: I think there's something like x-connection forwarding...12:05
rayluoh yeah...so the new wirelessmanager in feisty is totally worthless...anyone know of a way to go back to the edgy one?12:05
ubuntu__That did it!12:05
purpleposeidonI dunno, though. I just heard of it12:05
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raylulupul, see if kopete has dcop support12:06
lupulok12:06
ubuntu__*whew* thanks!12:06
lupulthanks anyway12:06
komakinoanyone?12:06
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raylukomakino, have you tried the safe graphics mode?12:06
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Dragnslcrkomakino- sounds pretty strange. Could be a bad download or burn12:07
komakinoraylu: Yes, gives a different error...12:07
K-RyanCan someone help me set this up? http://doom.chaosforge.org/12:07
leiaris there a progamme in kubuntu to scan for wireless access points?12:07
geniisnort12:07
komakinoDrgnslcr: where can i get the md5 checksum?12:07
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K-RyanIn the readme it says something about a doomrl_konsole command to start it, I've tried the command alone, while in the directory, nothing.12:07
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Dragnslcrkomakino- the mirrors usually have them. What version do you have?12:08
komakinoOr is it possible to install without loading the live gui?12:08
komakino7.0412:08
Dragnslcrkomakino- CD or DVD, i386 or amd64?12:08
Yorokobikomakino, the Alternate install CD is probably what you need12:08
rayluthe alternate cd has a text install12:08
komakinooh, sorry. its a CD i38612:08
komakinoDamn, just used my last cdr12:09
komakinoSo its not possible to intall in text mode om the regular?12:09
Yorokobileiar, kwifimanager I believe12:09
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leiarYorokobi: Thanks I'll try12:10
Dragnslcrkomakino- http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/kubuntu/feisty/MD5SUMS12:10
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snowdonkeyHey guys.  I'm having some trouble with blank discs.  When I put a blank CD-R in my comp I don't get an option to mount the drive, and I can't burn to it from K3b12:11
komakinoDragnslcr: Thanks. Got the right checksum on the iso. Probably a bad burn then. Last cdr so i have to wayt a couple of days. Bummer.12:11
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Dragnslcrkomakino- keep asking around here, maybe someone has an actual answer. That error message doesn't look like anything to do with hardware, and the only software problem I can think of on an install disc is a bad burn12:12
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Ahmucki'm confused on mysql login usage on kubuntu ... "sudo mysql" drops me right in, however, "mysql -h localhost -u sudo" causes "Access denied".  Is there something special here i am missing ?12:12
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Ahmuckleiar: yes12:13
geniiAhmuck: mysql cannot be run in root12:13

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