[12:14] <Sanne> luca: from their online manual: "Come to the #kbfx channel on irc.freenode.org"
[12:17] <zoroastre> bonjour  tous, hello all
[12:17] <aleksanteri> !fr | zoroastre
[12:17] <ubotu> zoroastre: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:17] <zoroastre> fr yes
[12:18] <mauro> exit
[12:18] <zoroastre> is there anybody using freenet ??
[12:29] <genii> zoroastre By freenet you mean a free dialup service?
[12:31] <Bi||aBong> i have a problem with my monitor, this have a blinking
[12:32] <spanner3003> can i talk about LinuxMCE in here?
[12:33] <spanner3003> just want to know if there is any other way to download then torrent?
[12:37] <BluesKaj> maybe you should look for a room with that name "#LinuxMCE"
[12:37] <jontec_> hey, is anyone able to help me? amd64, 7.04 kdm/X hangs after I login
[12:38] <santote_> jontec_ what you did after that?
[12:38] <jontec_> is there any way to kill all of the apps currently in KDE's memory... like kill all of the ones that will start after I power on and login?
[12:38] <jontec_> is there like a cache or something that KDE keeps that I can delete?
[12:39] <santote_> mmm i dont know
[12:39] <santote_> sorry
[12:40] <jontec_> Woody_: well best is subjective and is an opinion: install them both and see for yourself
[12:40] <mike> my /dev/ directory does not list my hard disks.  no hda hdb.  nothing.  ls -l | grep hd    returns Nothing
[12:41] <jontec_> dangett I keep forgetting that I'm not talking in #ubuntu
[12:41] <Daisuke_Ido> mike: try sd
[12:42] <mike> what is sd
[12:42] <Daisuke_Ido> new kernel went purely to sd* rather than hd*
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido:  any idea how to restore grub without having to do a "fake install" ?
[12:43] <jontec_> gah... I really don't want to reconfigure xorg if it's going to screw with my ati card drivers
[12:43] <Skrot-> Daisuke_Ido: For IDE devices as well?
[12:43] <Daisuke_Ido> you're using proprietary ati drivers and wonder why it isn't working?  i think we just found the problem
[12:43] <Daisuke_Ido> Skrot-: yes
[12:44] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: should be able to edit the grub configuration
[12:44] <Daisuke_Ido> but other than that, i dunno
[12:44] <mike> really! oh... ok... ls -l | grep sd     lists the drives.
[12:44] <jontec_> Daisuke_Ido: well, seeing as how I've had them installed for 4 months without problems, no I think I should be fine.
[12:46] <Dekkard> v /j #ubuntu
[12:46] <Dekkard> oops
[12:46] <jontec_> ... I really wish I knew why this was broken.
[12:47] <Asdc> hi - what is best way to add #Kubuntu Channel as a permanent choice in XChat? any help?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido: unfortunately the boot menu lists the partition but I get "error 17 unable to mount partition"...I was trying the fake install procedure but I get stuck at the format stage , unable to go further without wiping everything :(
[12:49] <mike> why do they use sd instead of hd for hard disk's in the new kernal? just curious
[12:49] <BluesKaj> running the live cd so I'm unsure how to edit the grub menu
[12:50] <Sanne> Asdc: should be: in the menu, Xchat->Serverlist, edit your server entry, then find the line "channels to join". Never tried myself, though.
[12:50] <Asdc> thx sanne
[12:50] <Asdc> will try
[12:50] <Sanne> Asdc: you're welcome
[12:50] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: chroot environment?
[12:51] <Sanne> mike: I read the newer kernels now use scsi emulation for both SATA and IDE disks.
[12:52] <Asdc> hay sanne - currently using kunbuntu w/kde - is there irc type app you like better then xchat?
[12:52] <Sanne> mike: I don't know the reason for that, though.
[12:52] <Daisuke_Ido> Asdc: anything non-gtk
[12:52] <Daisuke_Ido> kvirc or konversation
[12:52] <mike> thanks though.  I was really worried when hda was gone
[12:52] <Sanne> Asdc: actually I use Xchat myself on Kubuntu :) It was my first irc app on Linux, so I just stuck with that. But I hear Konversation is nice as well.
[12:53] <BluesKaj> dunno Daisuke_Ido chroot?
[12:53] <Sanne> mike: yeah, I can imagine, would have scared me also :)
[12:54] <Dragnslcr> Konversation is good, but doesn't have any scripting support
[12:54] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: just throwing out ideas, never actually done it :)
[12:54] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: sure it does
[12:54] <Daisuke_Ido> it actually uses bash scripting
[12:54] <Daisuke_Ido> see?
[12:55] <Dragnslcr> I thought I checked the site and it said it doesn't support scripts
[12:55] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry for the spam, but a short demonstration was in order
[12:57] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-network/konversation/scripting.html
[12:58] <Dragnslcr> Hm, interesting. Looks like it still only supports grabbing the output of a script with /exec
[12:58] <guillermo> hi
[12:59] <Dragnslcr> i.e. no event-based handling
[12:59] <guillermo> i need help wth some ATI drivers
[12:59] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: for now
[12:59] <guillermo> does anyone know hpw to?
[12:59] <Daisuke_Ido> !ati
[12:59] <guillermo> i fixed them yesterday and it seemd to work ok, but today it des not
[12:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:59] <Daisuke_Ido> voila
[12:59] <guillermo> obuto i checked that yesterday
[01:00] <soulrider> guys, i need some urgent help. My friend has windows and linux. but lately when he tries to boot linux it just freezes at 'starting up' and if he chooses recovery mode it sais 'weird, boot cpu #15 not listed in BIOS' or something very similar
[01:00] <Daisuke_Ido> although a better solution is to perform a ritual on your ati card, i don't care what one, as long as it ends in the card being destroyed in a fire
[01:00] <soulrider> he cant log into windows either, he gets a blank screen
[01:00] <soulrider> Daisuke_Ido:  LOL
[01:00] <Daisuke_Ido> soulrider: that sounds bad.
[01:00] <soulrider> Daisuke_Ido: yeah
[01:01] <soulrider> it happened to him before but it fixed itself
[01:01] <soulrider> its really random
[01:01] <soulrider> its a brand new PC too
[01:01] <Daisuke_Ido> he overclocked?  overheated?
[01:01] <soulrider> and i installed kubuntu on it myself
[01:01] <soulrider> nope
[01:01] <soulrider> its winter too :P
[01:01] <Asdc> thx - sanne - sorry for long wait on reply - wifey got home from work
[01:01] <Daisuke_Ido> if it's new, i'd say refund or exchange
[01:01] <Dragnslcr> Daisuke_Ido- I'll have to keep an eye on Konversation development then. I've gotten used XChat the past couple weeks, but I liked Konversation while I was using it
[01:02] <soulrider> Dragnslcr: konversation is great
[01:02] <roadfish> I get m1 M2 then m2 ... but shouldn't I get m1 m2 _then_ M1?
[01:02] <roadfish>    python -c "print 'm1\nM1\nm2'" | sort
[01:02] <Sanne> Asdc: ah, that's a very good reason! Hope she's fine and enjoys being home :)
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> roadfish: i think caps take precedence over lowercase?  maybe?
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> iunno
[01:03] <roadfish> wait, I mean that I get m1 M1 then m2
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> that's odd
[01:03] <roadfish> Daisuke_Ido: that's why I'm puzzled. why do I get the M1 _inbetween_ m1 and m2?
[01:04] <Minataku> Different sorting model
[01:04] <Minataku> POSIX C sorts by ASCII code value
[01:04] <Minataku> Which is why you get "m1 m2 M1"
[01:04] <Minataku> The sorting in POSIX C locale is case sensitive
[01:04] <roadfish> this is a case insentive search which should only happen if I use "--ignore-case"
[01:05] <Minataku> Your system may not be using POSIX C sort order
[01:05] <roadfish> (I mean case sensitive)
[01:05] <roadfish> ok, so maybe my locale is messed up
[01:05] <Minataku> In which case, the default behavior may be dictated by the selected locale
[01:05] <Minataku> Either the global locale or a sort order override
[01:06] <Daisuke_Ido> thank you Minataku, i was treading on thin "i dunno what i'm talking about" ice
[01:06] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: lol
[01:06] <roadfish> how do I figure out my locale?
[01:06] <Minataku> Yeah, it's more than likely his selected locale or an override, it's probably gonna be in the environment variables
[01:07] <roadfish> echo $LOCALE ??? shows nothing
[01:07] <Minataku> Or not
[01:07] <roadfish> nor does this:  set | grep -i locale
[01:07] <Minataku> Yeah, I don't have it here either
[01:07] <roadfish> Minataku: what order do you get? m1 m2 M1?
[01:08] <roadfish> is there a comamnd to list my environment variables?
[01:08] <Minataku> Lemme set up a quick test
[01:08] <Minataku> I'll use ls and some empty files
[01:09] <Minataku> I get case sensitive reverse
[01:09] <Minataku> M1 M2 m1 m2
[01:11] <roadfish> does "set" dump all the environment variables? the only thing that seems close is "LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
[01:11] <Minataku> Yeah, I lack that too, I remember setting the locale when I installed
[01:11] <Minataku> I picked either C or en_US
[01:15] <roadfish> ok, the sort man page says that I should set "LC_ALL=C"
[01:15] <roadfish> nope, this still messes up:
[01:16] <roadfish>   LC_ALL=C;python -c "print 'm1\nm2\nM1'" | sort
[01:16] <roadfish> ok, I need to do this: LC_ALL=C ; export LC_ALL
[01:16] <roadfish> good, now I've got things working ... yay!
[01:23] <pisq> can one run a vaccum to clean the inside PC box, and what about static electricity?
[01:23] <nate_> i use a vaccume to clean my laptop
[01:23] <pisq> ok. with it off?
[01:24] <luca> hi everyone
[01:24] <nate_> its usual on, i just run it over the keyboard, and vents
[01:24] <luca> uhm anybody tried to install strigi svn recently?
[01:24] <nate_> but best bet would be
[01:24] <nate_> get a can of compressed air
[01:24] <pisq> ok, thank you.
[01:24] <nate_> take the best outside
[01:24] <nate_> and blast the dusty areas
[01:25] <nate_> that way works better
[01:25] <pisq> ok, thank you.
[01:25] <HumpBack> Hello all
[01:25] <nate_> hello
[01:25] <HumpBack> Where is the proper place to ask questions about: http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1/
[01:25] <pisq> you've been a great help.
[01:25] <nate_> anyone know how i can remove the boxs that pop up when you mouse over tabs in the taskbar
[01:28] <kalorin`> uh
[01:28] <kalorin`> ok so from X, how can I tell what version of kubuntu I'm running?
[01:29] <kalorin`> I did an upgrade over night and it crashed part way through, I was on 6.10 now I _THINK_ I'm at 7.04
[01:30] <kalorin`> anyone?
[01:31] <adaptr> kalorin` if it crashed halfway through, chances are you're running half of either
[01:31] <genii> pisq I recommend vacuuming over compressed air due to compressed air makes a big could of dust plus can force little pieces of crap into surfacemount leads where its hard to pry out.
[01:31] <kalorin`> adaptr: cool
[01:31] <kalorin`> I'm running 7.10!
[01:31] <kalorin`> or 6.04?
[01:32] <kalorin`> 6.14!
[01:32] <adaptr> just restart the upgrade
[01:32] <kalorin`> so drop to a command line and do an apt-get dist upgrade?
[01:32] <adaptr> sudo update-manager -c
[01:32] <adaptr> or that, yeah
[01:32] <kalorin`> yeah cause I have the ati drivers installed from ati
[01:32] <kalorin`> thinking that's safer and likely why it crashed
[01:32] <kalorin`> well this shouldn't take long it was to the point where it was going to remove packages it didn't need anyway
[01:33] <kalorin`> genil: compressed air is SO much more fun though: )
[01:33] <genii> kalorin It's also wrecked some mb on me
[01:34] <kalorin`> yeah
[01:34] <Dhraakellian> when I try to run glxgears, it gives me the following error:
[01:34] <Dhraakellian> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:34] <Dhraakellian> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[01:34] <kalorin`> ok so apt-get dist-upgrade shows 0 packages upgraded and 0 to remove
[01:35] <Dhraakellian> glx is listed in my xorg.conf
[01:35] <nate_> wheni run glx i get
[01:35] <nate_> 18408 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3681.582 FPS
[01:35] <kalorin`> ah ha
[01:36] <kalorin`> ati drivers were knocked out
[01:36] <Dhraakellian> how might I fix this?
[01:36] <kalorin`> time to set that all up again
[01:36] <kalorin`> otehrwise I think it crashed after it'd finished up with most stuff
[01:36] <Dhraakellian> so that I can get glxgears (and, more importantly, nexiuz) running?
[01:36] <nate_> so who is the sound master here, cause its pissing me off and i dont wanna go back to M$
[01:36] <nate_> what is nexiuz
[01:36] <Dhraakellian> nvidia geforce2 set to use proprietary nvidia drivers
[01:36] <Dhraakellian> nate_: f/oss FPS game
[01:37] <Dhraakellian> descended from quake
[01:37] <TheDebugger> nate_: What's happening?
[01:37] <Dhraakellian> http://nexuiz.com/
[01:37] <nate_> well i have no sound at all, and ive spent around 10hrs googling look for a solution from acpi off and custom DSTS
[01:38] <TheDebugger> nate_: What is your sound card?
[01:38] <Dhraakellian> hrm...
[01:38] <nate_> the horrible, intel hda
[01:38] <TheDebugger> OMG :(
[01:39] <nate_> do i have anyother options of getting sound at all, like a usb sound card, or pmcia soundcard? cause everything else is work %100, just thing :( but i read some people DID get it working, but they never say how, so i asume they are full of it
[01:39] <imagine> nate_: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[01:39] <crimsun> nate_: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.
[01:40] <imagine> nate_: basically try this commandline: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto
[01:40] <Dhraakellian> and ever since I tried backing up my xorg.conf and using the xorg.conf from my previous gentoo installation, the Display config GUI isn't working
[01:40] <imagine> if you can get sound working, that howto is for you
[01:40] <Dhraakellian> huh...
[01:40] <Dhraakellian> okay, nm that last bit...
[01:40] <crimsun> imagine: doesn't make any sense to suggest that procedure until we've read his alsa-info.sh output.
[01:41] <acemo> For packages that use the X Window System, `configure' can usually find the X include and library files automatically, but if it doesn't, you can use the `configure' options `--x-includes=DIR' and `--x-libraries=DIR' to specify their locations. where in kubuntu would this folder be?
[01:41] <imagine> crimsun: well he is running hda_intel.. and so did I on a satellite A100 and it solved it.. so why doesn't it make sense?
[01:41] <nate_> do all that in one go?
[01:41] <Dhraakellian> Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic)
[01:41] <crimsun> nate_: just go to the web site I gave you.
[01:41] <imagine> ........
[01:41] <Dhraakellian> Driver: nvidia
[01:41] <imagine> nate_: yes
[01:41] <crimsun> imagine: because there are lots of different codecs driving HDA.
[01:41] <crimsun> imagine: I'd know.  I'm the ALSA maintainer.
[01:42] <imagine> crimsun: I don't doubt you don't have the skills
[01:42] <imagine> I'm just saying a simple commandline to check it out.. is quicker than reading a whole website.. but you do it the way you want..
[01:42] <nate_> ok ill do the command line hang on
[01:42] <crimsun> imagine: we write the drivers.  It makes sense to do it "our" way.
[01:43] <imagine> crimsun: read above
[01:43] <crimsun> imagine: do you want the short or the long version of why model=auto is insufficient?
[01:43] <nate_> sage:
[01:43] <nate_>   kill pid ...              Send SIGTERM to every process listed.
[01:43] <nate_>   kill signal pid ...       Send a signal to every process listed.
[01:43] <nate_>   kill -s signal pid ...    Send a signal to every process listed.
[01:43] <nate_>   kill -l                   List all signal names.
[01:43] <nate_>   kill -L                   List all signal names in a nice table.
[01:43] <nate_>   kill -l signal            Convert between signal numbers and names.
[01:43] <nate_> nate@natious:~$
[01:43] <Dhraakellian> calc paste
[01:44] <Dhraakellian> ~paste
[01:44] <Dhraakellian> or whatever the bot command is in here
[01:44] <crimsun> nate_: please use http://pastebin.ca instead of spamming this channel.
[01:44] <imagine> crimsun: like I said earlier... you do it the way you want.. I doon't have the skills to talk about it.. so you are all go
[01:45] <nate_> sorry, but thats all that came up
[01:45] <acemo> in wich folder are the x library files on kubuntu?
[01:45] <imagine>  /etc/Xorg?
[01:45] <crimsun> acemo: they're not installed by default.  Install libx11-dev for that.
[01:45] <acemo> crimsun: thanks
[01:46] <nate_> and this is the script you wanted http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/scripts/output.txt
[01:46] <crimsun> nate_: no, I want you to download, save, and execute alsa-info.sh.
[01:46] <crimsun> nate_: then tell me the URL that it gives you.
[01:46] <Dhraakellian> Section "Module"
[01:46] <Dhraakellian>   load "glx"
[01:46] <Dhraakellian> EndSection
[01:46] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[01:47] <nate_> oh ok hang on
[01:48] <acemo> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:48] <acemo> after installing libx11-dev that is
[01:48] <crimsun> acemo: check config.log for what configure is barfing on
[01:48] <nate_> ok i saved the script to my desktop but i dont know how to run it
[01:48] <crimsun> nate_: open a Konsole, then:  bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[01:49] <nate_> http://pastebin.ca/492040
[01:49] <acemo> X_EXTRA_LIBS='' X_INCLUDES='' X_LDFLAGS='' X_PRE_LIBS='' X_RPATH=''
[01:50] <acemo> ok, that explains it cant find em.. where should i be able to find them?
[01:50] <froggie> hi i am on kubuntu and i am trying to install my printer, hp deskjet 3320, all goes very fine, but just before it is actually going to install the driver it is telling me: you font have permission. how can i log in as root in this graphical environment to perform this task? cause i wouldn't know how to do this in a terminal :)
[01:50] <froggie> font = don't
[01:51] <acemo> froggie use kdesu
[01:52] <crimsun> nate_: you need model=laptop-eapd
[01:52] <froggie> hm, looking where i will find kdesu, i think i know, ty
[01:52] <nate_> what is that
[01:52] <Dhraakellian> how would I fix the 'Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".' problem when running glxgears?
[01:52] <acemo> froggie: open konsole, type kdesu *youre program name*
[01:52] <crimsun> nate_: rerun the command that imagine gave you, but instead of typing model=auto, use model=laptop-eapd
[01:53] <nate_> so in konsole just type sudo model=laptop-eapd
[01:53] <nate_> or the hole big thing
[01:53] <crimsun> nate_: the whole big thing, but replace the model appropriately
[01:53] <Dhraakellian> acemo: if he's opening konsole anyway, why not just use sudo?
[01:54] <froggie> trying
[01:54] <nate_> so this sudo kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd
[01:54] <acemo> Dhraakelian: idk.. never used kdesu anyways
[01:54] <Dhraakellian> hehheh
[01:54] <crimsun> nate_: correct.
[01:54] <nate_> ok here it goes
[01:55] <baudthief> anything like "flashget" for linux? Ie: anything that support resuming and downloading in multiple "chunks" simultaneously
[01:55] <nate_> FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[01:55] <nate_> nate@natious:~$
[01:55] <nate_> :(
[01:56] <Dhraakellian> baudthief: try kget, perhaps?  wget can be nice if you're using the commandline
[01:56] <crimsun> laptop-eapd|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base-fix
[01:56] <crimsun> err
[01:56] <crimsun> nate_: echo options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base-fix
[01:57] <nate_> nate@natious:~$  echo options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base-fix
[01:57] <nate_> options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd
[01:57] <nate_> nate@natious:~$
[01:57] <crimsun> nate_: good, now reboot.
[01:58] <nate_> ok ill brb
[01:58] <froggie> what is the program name for the 'add printer wizard' ? (for kdesu *program name*)
[01:59] <froggie> or system settings, i dont know
[01:59] <Dhraakellian> froggie: isn't there an "Administrator Mode" button for that kcontrol module?
[01:59] <froggie> i'll check
[02:00] <froggie> could be but if so i miised it :) thnx for tip
[02:00] <acemo>  ./configure --x-includes=DIR --x-libraries=DIR  wich two directories should this be?
[02:03] <nate_> ok im back, now what
[02:05] <froggie> Yep, admin mode is available in System settings -> add printer
[02:05] <crimsun> nate_: now, aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav
[02:05] <froggie> cool
[02:06] <wolferine> does subversion have a server and client portion?
[02:06] <nate_> nate@natious:~$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav
[02:06] <nate_> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
[02:06] <nate_> i didnt hear anything tho
[02:06] <Dhraakellian> now... how to get glx stuff working...
[02:07] <imagine> nate_: alsamixer has maybe set the volume to 0
[02:08] <nate_> master is on 100 PCM is on 100 IEC958 is on 00 and i cant change that one
[02:08] <imagine> crimsun knows, I don't
[02:10] <nate_> any ideas?
[02:11] <crimsun> nate_: pastebin amixer
[02:13] <nate_> great paste bin is borked
[02:13] <nate_> ill pm it too you
[02:14] <crimsun> nate_: no, use another pastebin
[02:15] <crimsun> there are literally hundreds of pastebins.  Just choose one.
[02:15] <imagine> pastebin.ca works fine
[02:17] <acemo>  ./configure --x-includes=DIR --x-libraries=DIR wich 2 folders should this be? i already installed libx11-dev but still ./configure gives me this error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:18] <Daisuke_Ido> acemo: xorg-dev
[02:18] <khirr> how can i install beryl in my kubuntu feisty?
[02:18] <Skrot-> !beryl
[02:18] <nate_> http://pastebin.ca/492084
[02:18] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:19] <acemo> Daisuke_Ido: thanks
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[02:20] <nate_> http://pastebin.ca/492084
[02:20] <crimsun> nate_: you need to mute 'IEC958' and 'Line-In'
[02:21] <nate_> how do do that, with alsamixer?
[02:21] <crimsun> you can use any mixer app
[02:22] <BluesKaj> damm grub doesn't recognize the partition type...anyway of changing it to get grub to work (error17) ?
[02:22] <nate_> i dont know what i have, its a bare os, so i havnt downloaded anything yet
[02:22] <nate_> kmix?
[02:24] <nate_> i dont know how to mute them
[02:24] <BluesKaj> nate type alsamixer in the terminal and unmute the IEC958P
[02:25] <crimsun> you mean mute.
[02:25] <crimsun> it's currently unmuted.
[02:25] <carutsu> mute what?
[02:25] <crimsun> carutsu: not talking to you.
[02:25] <BluesKaj> no type M to unmute so you have 00 in the block
[02:26] <BluesKaj> M togles mute/unmute
[02:26] <carutsu> crimsun: =_= i knew, i just were asking in case you were telling something about muting konqueror, i hate sounds in webbrowsers
[02:26] <crimsun> BluesKaj: I don't think you're following.  It's currently unmuted.  He does not want to unmute an already-unmuted mixer control.  :-)
[02:26] <nate_> in aslamixer IEC958 is off
[02:26] <crimsun> nate_: good.
[02:26] <crimsun> nate_: now change Line-In
[02:27] <nate_> its on L R with capture underneate and all in red
[02:27] <nate_> it wont let me do anything to it
[02:27] <crimsun> nate_: if this doesn't work, we'll have you pull alsa-{kernel,driver} hg
[02:28] <nate_> what do i press to turn line in off
[02:28] <crimsun> that's in the capture perspective  (F4)
[02:29] <crimsun> you can also use amixer set 'Line-In' nocap
[02:29] <carutsu> well now that you seem to know about alsa... (i haven't been able to solve this) when i log in my sound is only on the right speaker and the left is totally muted i can fixe it with alsamixer, however i have to do it every time i log in, does anyone know a solution?
[02:29] <crimsun> carutsu: filed a bug in kmix?  (It's not an ALSA bug.)
[02:30] <carutsu> crimsun: a kmix bug? mmm, I'll try to file a bug then, however how can you be sure is not alsa? (just to add to the bug report)
[02:31] <nate_> im gonna have to come back to this i have to go out, dammit
[02:31] <nate_> this is pissing me off so bad lol
[02:31] <nate_> thanks for trying to help tho
[02:32] <crimsun> carutsu: because if it works after you use alsamixer, it's not an alsa bug.  alsa bugs don't have to do with state.
[02:32] <hellcattrav> hi all
[02:32] <carutsu> crimsun: ok
[02:32] <carutsu> crimsun: thank you
[02:32] <hellcattrav> any of you good with math, my discrete class is doing a chapter on hamiltion circuits, and I was wondering if there were programs out there
[02:34] <carutsu> hellcattrav: although i'm not sure about hamiltion circuits, have you tried klogic?
[02:34] <carutsu> !info kalogic
[02:34] <ubotu> Package kalogic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:34] <carutsu> !info klogic
[02:35] <carutsu> !info klogic
[02:35] <ubotu> klogic: digital circuit editor and simulator for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.63-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 1392 kB
[02:35] <hellcattrav> carutsu: what is it?
[02:36] <carutsu> !info klogic|hellcattrav
[02:36] <ubotu> hellcattrav: klogic: digital circuit editor and simulator for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.63-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 1392 kB
[02:40] <hellcattrav> thanks
[02:47] <jordo23> I don't get it....when AZureus starts, it begins fine, gets to the main window, and the disappears....it is also not in the system tray....any ideas???
[02:48] <crimsun> use the azureus in feisty-proposed
[02:48] <crimsun> or edgy-proposed or whatever.
[02:49] <jordo23> crimsun: I am not sure I understand...
[02:50] <jordo23> crimsun: It opened fine about an hour ago, and sat in the system tray....now it's like it opens fine, I can see the transfer window for a second, and then gone...
[02:53] <jordo23> Restarted X, and nothing......Azureus starts, the window will flash for a second or two, then disappear...
[02:53] <jordo23> It also flashes in the system tray for a second or two as well...
[02:54] <jordo23> No crash report or anything..
[02:54] <LaDyRaZaGaL> Hi :D
[02:54] <Skrot-> jordo23: Try starting it from the console and see what it says
[02:54] <LaDyRaZaGaL> how i install xchat-2.0.10.tar.bz2 ???'
[02:55] <Skrot-> LaDyRaZaGaL: Why don't you just grab it from apt+
[02:55] <Skrot-> "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[02:55] <LaDyRaZaGaL> thanks :-***
[02:55] <Skrot-> no problem
[02:55] <jordo23> Does this make any sense, says it's a java error....  http://www.pastebin.ca/492123
[02:56] <Skrot-> jordo23: Not enough info I think. May I ask if you've tried KTorrent? It's native to KDE and has a lot of similar functions to azureus
[02:56] <jordo23> It was working five minutes ago...
[02:56] <Skrot-> Thats java for you :)
[02:56] <jordo23> Skrot-: I would prefer to use Ktorrent, but it crashes every 30 min for some reason....
[02:57] <Skrot-> uhm, could you do ktorrent --version to check which version you've got?
[02:57] <jordo23> Skrot-: 2.1
[02:57] <jordo23> Skrot-: It runs fine for about 30 minutes then always crashes....
[02:58] <Skrot-> If you want, I can hook you up with a apt-source that has more recent builds of it. It's not official, but its pretty stable. I even use it on my server
[02:58] <ps_> is there another location for kde to use for autostarting programs except .kde/Autostart and the session thing?
[02:58] <jordo23> Skrot-: Would rather use standard stable stuff....
[02:58] <Skrot-> okay
[02:58] <cpk1> jordo23: they just recently updated it in the repos and it doesnt crash now
[02:59] <jordo23> Skrot-: How can I test if Java is working properly for Azureus?
[02:59] <ps_> i just cant find why kmail and synaptic is started everytime i log in :(
[02:59] <Skrot-> jordo23: I'm not quite sure, sorry :(
[02:59] <jordo23> cpk1: I didn't get an update notice...do I have to manually update the package?
[02:59] <cpk1> jordo23: you have ktorrent 2.1.4?
[02:59] <jordo23> cpk1: says 2.1
[02:59] <Skrot-> ps_: KDE remembers which programs you had running when you logged out, and starts them on next login. Maybe thats the reason?
[03:00] <jordo23> cpk1: How do I update it?
[03:00] <Skrot-> cpk1: 2.1-0ubuntu2 is latest in feisty?
[03:00] <ps_> Skrot-: nope, i checked that already. .kde/shared/config/session is empty and in kcontrol under session it says "start with empty session". the programs do not run when logging out as well .... but when login again, they start
[03:01] <Skrot-> ps_: okay
[03:01] <cpk1> I'm on edgy so I would imagine feisty has at least what i do
[03:02] <cpk1> jordo23: if you want to use azureus it shouldnt be too hard to troubleshoot... try starting azureus from konsole
[03:02] <jordo23> cpk1: http://www.pastebin.ca/492123
[03:02] <ircusr> hi all
[03:02] <jordo23> That's what happens....worked fine ten minutes ago...
[03:03] <cpk1> hmm well thats not what I was expecting
[03:05] <jordo23> cpk1: I have no idea.....worked five minutes ago.....I DON'T UNDERSTAND...
[03:05] <jordo23> I am also waiting for Ktorrent to crash again :)
[03:05] <cpk1> jordo23: did azureus close unexpectedly before this happened? or you lose your network connection for a second?
[03:06] <jordo23> cpk1: No....was running flawlessly....I don't get it...
[03:07] <Skrot-> <- 2.2dev
[03:07] <Skrot-> Works great :)
[03:07] <Dhraakellian> cool
[03:07] <Dhraakellian> still not going to risk it until it at least hits beta
[03:08] <Dhraakellian> some trackers don't like development clients
[03:08] <Dhraakellian> !;)
[03:08] <Skrot-> I know :>
[03:08] <Skrot-> Some trackers don't like ktorrent alltogether :(
[03:08] <jordo23> Azureus was outperforming Ktorrent when it was working...
[03:08] <cpk1> jordo23: well, you could try deleting .azureus this will wipe all your az config stuff but might let you start it
[03:09] <Dhraakellian> and some have had their admins in contact with ktorrent devs and thus have ktorrent unbanned for 2.1.x and higher
[03:09] <Skrot-> jordo23: I download and upload in 11MB/s with KTorrent..
[03:09] <Skrot-> From 100mbit
[03:09] <Dhraakellian> cpk1, jordo23: move/rename instead of deleting
[03:09] <cpk1> jordo23: also you could try replacing your azureus2.jar with one from az's sourceforge page
[03:09] <Skrot-> Probably mv ~/.azureus ~/.azureus-bak
[03:12] <jordo23> Dhraakellian cpk1:  Renaming .azureus let's the program start again from the config wizard and runs fine now....wierd...
[03:12] <cpk1> jordo23: so there's a temporary workaround =P
[03:12] <iam4u9de> hello
[03:12] <cpk1> a newer jar might also fix the problem
[03:12] <don> hi
[03:13] <jordo23> cpk1: Not familar with that....what about a jar? lol
[03:13] <ps_> can you imagine any reason why kmail is starting when i do call kopete? everytime i execute "kopete", kmail comes up as well x_X
[03:13] <Dhraakellian> jordo23: java archive.  it's how a lot of java programs are packaged
[03:14] <Dhraakellian> oslt
[03:14] <cpk1> jordo23: move your current /usr/share/java/Azureus2.jar somewhere and replace it with either the latest stable or latest cvs jar from the azureus sourceforge page
[03:14] <cpk1> it *might* fix the problem
[03:15] <jordo23> cpk1: will do.....
[03:15] <Dhraakellian> although, if the settings stuff works, then you could just go with it as-is now
[03:16] <cpk1> yeah, but if it happens again ya know
[03:17] <jordo23> cpk1:  Azureus.2.5.4.jar???
[03:17] <cpk1> I dunno what their newest is =)
[03:19] <jordo23> cpk1:  Azureus2.5.0.4.jar is the current file i believe, do I have to rename it or just move it to that dir?
[03:21] <jordo23> Anyone know if I have to rename the file to Azureus2.jar or just move it and delete the other one?
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> is there any way to easily install fonts through ADEPT? I mean other than mstcorefonts
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> is there a font repo?
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> Suse had all kinds of cool fonts....
[03:24] <kilrae_> you can install fonts with the kde control center, but i'm not aware of any packages
[03:24] <carutsu> for the record installing openoffice dictionaries in other language than english, just is like "sudo apt-get openoffice.org-spellcheck-XX" it took me a week to figure out, since the dictionary wizard crashes
[03:24] <carutsu> !font
[03:24] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:25] <carutsu> !font|nosrednaekim
[03:25] <ubotu> nosrednaekim: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> thank you!
[03:27] <michael__> is there anyway to completely kill an app
[03:27] <michael__> it froze and i killed the pid but its still ther
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> "kill -9 <PID>"
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> they need to make a Repo for fonts.... maybe i'll do it. Good little project.
[03:28] <michael__> no the pid is gone
[03:28] <michael__> the window is still there
[03:28] <michael__> it wont go away
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> hmmm...
[03:28] <michael__> but ican still minimze it etc
[03:29] <Dragnslcr> Is there any way to log what command is run when you change a setting in the System Settings?
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> IDK... but what setting are you trying to change?
[03:30] <Jucato> Dragnslcr: not really sure, but you can probably run "strace systemsettings" in Konsole.
[03:30] <carutsu> Jack3: try closing it (yep the X button) several times, it'll ask weather to kill it or not, or you might have killed the background process and it has a "monitor"
[03:30] <Jack3> ah ok
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: hey... so did you figure out your lack of disc space problem?
[03:31] <Jack3> oh, i had to reinstall :\
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> Jack3: oh...not good.
[03:31] <Jack3> yeh, o well
[03:31] <Jack3> frick, that isnt working
[03:31] <Jack3> gah fuck you ubuntu
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> !language
[03:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:32] <soulrider> how can i use the hosts.deny file to block outgoing connections ?
[03:32] <Dragnslcr> Jucato- know offhand if there's a good way to filter out noise like mouse movements?
[03:32] <Jucato> ah no. sorry
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: what setting are you trying to change?
[03:33] <Dragnslcr> I just want to know how to set the monitor's power off time from a shell
[03:33] <Dragnslcr> (Q3-based games screw it up, so I want to setup a cron job as a workaround)
[03:34] <NetersLandreau> soulrider: if the host is in the hosts.deny file, that host will be denied from any future connections.. is it a persistent connection?
[03:35] <carutsu> !info powertop
[03:35] <ubotu> Package powertop does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: ahh... yeah.. wondering that myself
[03:35] <carutsu> no powertop?! u_u
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> carutsu: its easy to compile yourself
[03:35] <carutsu> nosrednaekim: I will :D
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> but it won't work with fiesty
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> unless you compiled your own kernel
[03:36] <soulrider> NetersLandreau: i just want to block certan websites from my computer
[03:36] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- heh, have you had the same problem? I remember the same thing in Windows a few years ago
[03:36] <soulrider> outcomming connections actually
[03:36] <soulrider> NetersLandreau: what syntax do i have to use ?
[03:36] <carutsu> nosrednaekim: you should've said that before, why?
[03:36] <carutsu> nosrednaekim: xD T_T,
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> because you need a tickless kernel, and the 2.6.20 inclueded with 7.04 doesn't have that functionality
[03:37] <NetersLandreau> exact syntax soulrider, fuckinggooleit.com ;)
[03:37] <intelikey> soulrider if you have quicktables  quickblock *.*.*.*
[03:37] <carutsu> nosrednaekim: mmm, right, was added on 2.6.21
[03:37] <carutsu> !
[03:38] <NetersLandreau> er fuckinggoogleit.com rather ;)
[03:38] <soulrider> intelikey: i dont think i have it, theres just a website i want my computer to be able to contact sometimes, and sometimes not
[03:38] <soulrider> NetersLandreau: you know thats rather rude ?
[03:38] <Jucato> !language | NetersLandreau
[03:38] <ubotu> NetersLandreau: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:38] <carutsu> !language|NetersLandreau
[03:38] <NetersLandreau> j/k.. i would google the answer tho :)
[03:39] <soulrider> i did, but for some reason i get useless links to websites in spanish
[03:39] <pisq> not cool
[03:39] <ddamron> anyone know where the linuxmce support irc channel is?
[03:39] <NetersLandreau> i saw that site this morning from here and got a laff.. apologize for any hard feelings
[03:39] <carutsu> soulrider: what did you look for? I might be able to traslate if nothing is avalible in english
[03:40] <soulrider> carutsu: i can read spanish :P
[03:40] <carutsu> soulrider: oh, ok
[03:40] <soulrider> thanks intelikey
[03:40] <intelikey> np
[03:41] <carutsu> but a tickless kernell is only for stand by?
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> carutsu: so its for evrything
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> *no
[03:41] <NetersLandreau> soulrider: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man5/hosts.deny.5.html
[03:42] <carutsu> nosrednaekim: mmm, so this will improve battery life a lot?
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> carutsu: it supposedly will.. I think there was a Phoronix article on it a bit back.
[03:43] <soulrider> intelikey: i need to install iptables :P
[03:43] <carutsu> nosrednaekim: oh, ok, im reading a bit about it, however is like scaling the hz
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> no... its not freq. scaling.
[03:44] <NetersLandreau> soulrider: what os?
[03:44] <carutsu> i know, is not per se, but gives the same result, doesnt it?
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> it has to do with the kernel method of keeping track of time
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> no... it decreases CPU use.
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> allowing the CPU to go into higher sleep states
[03:45] <soulrider> NetersLandreau: im running Archlinux
[03:45] <soulrider> i have a terrible headache guys, im going to bed
[03:45] <soulrider> ill be back tomorrow, thanks for the help
[03:46] <carutsu> nosrednaekim: er, then would you explain me this: http://kerneltrap.org/node/6750 search for "nonintrusive"
[03:46] <soulrider> intelikey: guess what, my toehr hard drive died... thats 2 in a month :P
[03:46] <NetersLandreau> soulrider: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=247797
[03:46] <soulrider> im going, see ya!
[03:46] <intelikey> soulrider oooh yuch,     Q what fs were they using ?
[03:46] <DaSkreech> See ya
[03:47] <Dhraakellian> when I try to run glxgears, it says, 'Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".'
[03:47] <Dhraakellian> how do I fix this?
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> that is that the CPU "ticks" or wakes up the cpu 1000 times (hz) a second
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> nothing to do with processor frequncy scaling.
[03:47] <intelikey> if you say ext3 on both i'll have to say "i told ya so!"
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> Dhraakellian: you do not have 3d accel
[03:50] <Dhraakellian> nosrednaekim: I could have guessed this
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> Dhraakellian: what type of graphics card do you have?
[03:51] <Dhraakellian> nvidia geforce2
[03:51] <Dhraakellian> nvidia drivers
[03:51] <Dhraakellian> legacy
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> Dhraakellian: did you install the nvidia drivers?
[03:51] <Dhraakellian> yes
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> how?
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> through adept?
[03:53] <carutsu>  see you all
[03:53] <Dhraakellian> nosrednaekim: adept_manager, yes
[03:53] <Jucato> Dhraakellian: did you run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" after installing it?
[03:54] <Jucato> then check your xorg.conf if it switched to nvidia from nv
[03:55] <Dhraakellian> (I had switched from nv to nvidia with the GUI kcontrol module)
[03:55] <Dhraakellian> Peripherals > Monitor & Display
[03:55] <Dhraakellian> in administrator mode
[03:55] <Jucato> hm..
[03:55] <Jucato> then restarted X already?
[03:56] <Dhraakellian> quite a number of times
[03:56] <Dhraakellian> and then restoring the kubuntu one when that didn't work like I wanted
[03:57] <BloodyTux> ello
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[03:58] <intelikey> how many nvidia cards are "NOT" supported ?
[03:58] <__mikem> intelikey, none
[03:58] <BloodyTux> ughhh i'm sitting here waiting for it to be nine so i can mess around with the free wap i just got on my phone :P
[03:58] <intelikey> __mikem wrong answer
[03:58] <BloodyTux> yea
[03:58] <donie> hehe
[03:58] <BloodyTux> most nvidia are supported
[03:59] <__mikem> Most nvidia cards are not only supported but run beautifully
[03:59] <intelikey> __mikem mine's not.   just wondering how many weren't
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> BloodyTux: its already nine... what's your problem?
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> lol
[03:59] <BloodyTux> 8:59
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> 9:59 I must insist
[03:59] <BloodyTux> i just set up a proxy and have free wap on my phone and parents
[03:59] <BloodyTux> yes, i in central timezone not whatever
[03:59] <_6StringKng_> !ATI
[03:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> gaga...I know
[04:00] <BloodyTux> 9:00!!!!
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> 10:00!
[04:00] <BloodyTux> it works!!!!
[04:00] <BloodyTux> BOOYA!
[04:00] <BloodyTux> what can i do on wap???
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> what is wap?
[04:01] <BloodyTux> internet for phones
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> ah.
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> does it have something to do with Linux?
[04:01] <intelikey> sorry.  power reset.
[04:02] <BloodyTux> no... but i'm on linux.com on it :)
[04:02] <BloodyTux> that so counts
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: why would you EVER need to reboot Linux?
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[04:02] <BloodyTux> lol
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> BloodyTux: yep!
[04:02] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i give up,  why ?
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: well.. why did you?
[04:03] <BloodyTux> hmmm ok so i went to linux.com now what???
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> BloodyTux: tuxmachines.com
[04:03] <intelikey> nosrednaekim what part of  "power reset" do you not understand ?
[04:03] <kpshubert> Howdy all. I have what may seem like a silly question.
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> oh you mean..a power surge/failure?
[04:03] <BloodyTux> nothing is silly here
[04:03] <intelikey> yes
[04:04] <BloodyTux> except pie on a computer in the middle of texas while its running windows
[04:04] <BloodyTux> thats silly
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> which is really just stupid
[04:04] <BloodyTux> everyone knows only linux can be in the middle of texas with pie on it
[04:04] <BloodyTux> duh
[04:04] <kpshubert> Well, I hate to say it, but a this very moment I am here in Arkansas running not just Windoze but Windoze ME.
[04:04] <BloodyTux> AHHHHH
[04:04] <BloodyTux> #windows
[04:04] <BloodyTux> GO AWAY :(
[04:05] <BloodyTux> sorry....
[04:05] <kpshubert> It really sucketh!
[04:05] <__mikem> PCs are like air conditioners, if you open windows, they don't work.
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> haha..
[04:05] <BloodyTux> i don't like doze, but i am forced to use it cause linux dun work!!! MY PC SUXORZ
[04:05] <ardchoille> haha
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> kpshubert: so whats your problem?
[04:05] <ardchoille> I use Linux. If I can't use Linux, I find another computer.. Windows is not an option.
[04:05] <kpshubert> ...but the reason I'm running it is that my Linux (I was running Debian but am now trying to set up Kubuntu) is having network card issues.
[04:06] <intelikey> did i drop in at bash M$ hour?   or are you guys just off topic ?
[04:06] <BloodyTux> yep
[04:06] <__mikem> lol
[04:06] <BloodyTux> and yep
[04:06] <scott__> I am using ubuntu 7.04 how do I download KDE Desktop?
[04:06] <ardchoille> intelikey: Sorry, was ot for a bit.
[04:06] <__mikem> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:06] <Dhraakellian> Jucato: nope
[04:06] <BloodyTux> apt install kubuntu-desktop
[04:06] <BloodyTux> or sumtin like that
[04:07] <ardchoille> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> kpshubert: ok.. what exctly is wrong?
[04:08] <kpshubert> The problem appears to be that the nic I am using is trying to use the same (I think i/o) address as some other component--or that is what I guess since the address seems to be being reserved prior to the nic being able to grab it.
[04:08] <scott__> thanks for the help
[04:08] <kpshubert> This only seems to have started happening with newer kernels.
[04:09] <kpshubert> I think it may be that some component is now being detected that was not in prior kernel versions.
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> kpshubert: yeah.. I heard that problem b4.
[04:09] <kpshubert> brb
[04:10] <intelikey> kpshubert you can install an older kernel if you need too,   might help trubble shoot the thing at least.
[04:10] <ardchoille> kpshubert: When you installed kubuntu, did you use "localhost" in the "desktop" entry during install?
[04:10] <ardchoille> I ask because I had problems when I did that.
[04:12] <_6StringKng_> how do I mount a windows partition, last time I used kubuntu it mounted them automatically
[04:12] <kpshubert> I am back
[04:12] <intelikey> !ntfs
[04:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:12] <BluesKaj> so how is ktorrent behaving in feisty these days...still crashprone ?
[04:13] <kpshubert> ardchoille: I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. I did do a desktop install using Fiesty.
[04:14] <kpshubert> intelikey: How would I install another kernel? Is there one available without having to get on the 'net?
[04:14] <ardchoille> kpshubert: that's ok, looking back at your issue it's not what I thought.
[04:15] <intelikey> kpshubert you'd need to dl one of the kernels in the repos  and use  dpkg -i on it
[04:15] <Dhraakellian> BluesKaj: I don't think I was having any problems with 2.1, but I still went ahead and got the 2.1.4 debs from the ktorrent.org forums
[04:15] <kpshubert> intelikey: repos?
[04:15] <Dhraakellian> hrm...
[04:15] <Dhraakellian> pageup doesn't work in bash
[04:16] <intelikey> kpshubert yes the 2.6 kernels are listed as  linux-image* and the 2.4's as  kernel*
[04:16] <intelikey> !packages
[04:16] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[04:16] <BluesKaj> Dhraakellian: and how is the newer version working..ok ?
[04:16] <intelikey> kpshubert http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:16] <kpshubert> intelikey: I gotcha... repository?
[04:16] <Dhraakellian> BluesKaj: haven't had a problem with it yet
[04:16] <intelikey> yes
[04:17] <BluesKaj> ok good, did you uninstall the old version first ?
[04:17] <Dhraakellian> don't think so
[04:17] <kpshubert> intelikey: Okay... next question, is there a package (like nicutils-pci) that I might be able to use to troubleshoot the issue?
[04:17] <BluesKaj> IC
[04:18] <jontec> !chroot
[04:18] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[04:18] <Dhraakellian> I just used the package management entry in the konqueror context menu
[04:18] <intelikey> !find nicutils
[04:18] <ubotu> Package/file nicutils does not exist in feisty
[04:18] <kpshubert> :-(
[04:18] <Dhraakellian> netsplit!
[04:19] <kpshubert> intelikey: will the 'bot respond to anyone?
[04:19] <DaSkreech> hmm
[04:19] <DaSkreech> Guess that's one advantage of chatzilla
[04:19] <DaSkreech> no netsplit
[04:19] <jordo23> My Ktorrent keeps crashing about every half an hour and it just happened again.....anyone know about any issues with Ktorrent in Feisty?
[04:20] <intelikey> kpshubert yes it will.  and you can /msg ubotu your Q.    doesn't seem to be any nicutils.    but pciutils   and lshw      along with the dmesg output should help to at least see what is going on.
[04:20] <jordo23> I still have the backtrace open if helpful...
[04:20] <raymond> i cant get dvd playback in kaffeine?
[04:20] <Dhraakellian> !dvd
[04:20] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:20] <ardchoille> !libdvdcss
[04:21] <nzk> Why is Ubuntu so ungodly slow for me. I have an EIGHT load average just running firefox, terminal, xchat, and nautilus
[04:21] <raymond> i have libdvdcss
[04:21] <nzk> on a 2 years old high-end-at-the-time computer
[04:21] <raymond>  i get a demux error for xine
[04:21] <kpshubert> intelikey: From what I could see--as I said--the problem is that the tuilp driver was unable to get an address that it thought it needed for IO on the card I'm using.
[04:21] <DaSkreech> nzk: firefox there is your problem
[04:21] <ardchoille> gnome ;)
[04:22] <intelikey> kpshubert let me look around a minute i'll get back to you on that.
[04:22] <nzk> How is firefox the problem?
[04:22] <bUzz-iN> video drivers for , Nvidia 8800
[04:22] <nzk> I have 4 tabs open
[04:22] <ardchoille> nzk: I always had laggyness with gnome, that went away when I switched to kubuntu
[04:22] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: shhhh don't disenfranchise too quickly
[04:22] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: lol
[04:22] <nzk> ardchoille, how do you know I use gnome
[04:22] <nzk> and isnt kde ugly/slow from what i hear
[04:22] <ardchoille> nzk: nautilus
[04:22] <DaSkreech> nzk: Sure it is
[04:23] <DaSkreech> try it and prove it for yourself
[04:23] <Dhraakellian> nzk: ugliness is in the eye of the beholder
[04:23] <kpshubert> Thank you intelikey
[04:23] <Dhraakellian> nzk: and be aware that you're saying this in #kubuntu
[04:23] <Dhraakellian> !;)
[04:23] <ardchoille> nzk: gnome is nice, but when I switched my 11 boxes to kubuntu, I noticed a large drop in system lag
[04:24] <nzk> Ohhh
[04:24] <nzk> I was running F@H all along
[04:24] <nzk> now its fine, load average like 0.05
[04:24] <Dhraakellian> so we're probably biased in here, on average
[04:24] <Dhraakellian> hehheh
[04:24] <savetheWorld> its not a bias if its true... :-)
[04:24] <Dhraakellian> oh, wait, wrong distro
[04:25] <DaSkreech> nzk: just run it on the PS3 :)
[04:25] <DaSkreech> not going to do much else with it anyway :)
[04:25] <nzk> I put my PS3 in my mom's closet
[04:25] <nzk> stupid parents gave me one for xmas
[04:25] <ardchoille> lol
[04:25] <intelikey> kpshubert ok from what i'm seeing you may want to check in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   it is possable the something in there need removed or added.
[04:25] <DaSkreech> nzk: Send it to me :)
[04:25] <nzk> I didn't want to hurt their feelings
[04:25] <DaSkreech> I'll pay for shipping
[04:25] <nzk> DaSkreech, its not worth the effort to move it
[04:26] <DaSkreech> I'll pay you 10 bucks :)
[04:26] <nzk> Like I put it in my moms closet when friends are over (well all hate ps3) so i dont look like a hypocrite
[04:26] <DaSkreech> that's like a huge number of Cds to burn Ubuntu :)
[04:26] <nzk> now i just dont feel like getting it back
[04:26] <intelikey> kpshubert if you can tell from dmesg   and or /var/log/messages   what is hogging the resource you might be able to blacklist it.
[04:26] <raymond> !kaffeine
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <raymond> !xine
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <kpshubert> Thank you intelikey I will poke at that and if I am unable to make things work, I may be back :-P
[04:27] <DaSkreech> nzk: Hmm well if it;s an embarresment then I'd be doing you a favour :)
[04:27] <raymond> !libdvdcss
[04:27] <intelikey> ok
[04:27] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:28] <ardchoille> raymond: Trouble playing dvd's?
[04:28] <nzk> DaSkreech, I don't want to make my parents feel bad
[04:28] <intelikey> kpshubert also have a look at the kernel config        grep -ie 'tulip' /boot/*
[04:28] <raymond> yeah
[04:28] <kpshubert> Okay, all have a good evening, thanks again intelikey. I must leave if I am going to play with Kubuntu for now :-(
[04:29] <DaSkreech> and making it dance wit the black dress and tux in the closet doesn't accomplish that?
[04:29] <raymond> ardchoille: every time i try to get kaffeine to play a dvd i get an error saying xine couldnt find demux for dvd:///dev/scd0
[04:29] <ardchoille> raymond: Here's how I got dvd playing in xine: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 xine libxine-extracodecs    then install libdvdcss2 (if you haven't already) and it works here.
[04:29] <kpshubert> Will to intelikey. Thanks again!
[04:30] <intelikey> np  and good luck
[04:30] <ardchoille> raymond: /dev/scd0 ?  shouldn't that be /dev/sd0 ?
[04:30] <raymond> shows up as scd0 in /dev
[04:31] <ardchoille> ok
[04:31] <intelikey> scd0 is scsi cdrom one
[04:31] <raymond> hmm i'll try that after uninstalling them all
[04:31] <ardchoille> intelikey: Ah, ok
[04:32] <ardchoille> raymond: libdvdread3 seemed to be the key with my setup
[04:32] <raymond> i got that now (i didnt before
[04:33] <intelikey> is that the one that you have to run the script after you install it ?
[04:33] <raymond> never had to before
[04:33] <marccollin> hi
[04:33] <ardchoille> intelikey: to get libdvdcss2, yes
[04:33] <ardchoille> But he already has libdvdcss2, so..
[04:33] <marccollin> during install, is there a way to bypass "configuring network interface" ? after 10 minutes... that seem blocked...
[04:34] <intelikey> yeah  libdvdcss   not  libdvdread   sorry.
[04:34] <draik> How do I change the screen resolution on my login screen?
[04:35] <Dhraakellian> another drake?
[04:35] <ardchoille> draik: I added 'vga=791' (without quotes) to the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst and that did it for me.
[04:35] <Dhraakellian> phonetically, at least
[04:36] <DaSkreech> So Shuttleworthian
[04:36] <draik> ardchoille: What does 791 do? I want to keep my nVidia drivers the way they are and have a resolution of 1280x1024
[04:36] <intelikey> ardchoille console login ?
[04:36] <ardchoille> draik: That's exactly what it does
[04:36] <ardchoille> intelikey: It chaanges the console loging res too
[04:37] <draik> Ok
[04:37] <ardchoille> draik: But I believe 791 is for 1024x768 res
[04:37] <intelikey> i didn't know that kdm used framebuffering...
[04:37] <draik> So.... 1280x1024 would be...?
[04:37] <ardchoille> intelikey: yep
[04:37] <ardchoille> draik: Not sure, but I bet google knows
[04:37] <draik> What am I looking for?
[04:38] <intelikey> draik 798   i think
[04:38] <ardchoille> intelikey: What is that called anyway? vgares?
[04:38] <khirr> i've installed compiz, and my computer stoped...some reason for that?
[04:38] <ardchoille> frameres? What should he google?
[04:38] <intelikey> kernel frame buffer rez
[04:38] <ardchoille> That's it
[04:39] <tin> draik: if you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you can change the default X screen dimensions
[04:39] <DaSkreech> khirr: The console hired an assassin to take out all things that take focus away from black and white glory!!
[04:40] <tin> find the Display subsection, rearrange the Modes line to put your preferred size first
[04:40] <c00kie> hi all
[04:40] <don> yo
[04:41] <tin> you'll need sudo to save changes to the file
[04:41] <intelikey> tin   yeah that's what i'm saying.   the kernel frame buffering "shouldn't" affect the "login" screen.     unless you have console login
[04:41] <c00kie> i just got my ubuntu cd today, and i was wondering if i could uninstall kubuntu to make space for ubuntu
[04:41] <intelikey> or possably if your x is using fb driver
[04:41] <tin> intelikey: i've never played with kernel framebuffer, but that should effect the kubuntu progress bar thingy before X starts
[04:41] <DaSkreech> Does anyone have problems with resizing Vista hard drives?
[04:42] <ardchoille> intelikey: I could be wrong about it changing the login res, since I typically edit menu.lst and xorg all before ever starting x
[04:42] <donutman25> hi my internet in kubuntu only works for about 30 seconds and then stops. Can someone help me please?
[04:42] <tin> maybe X uses the framebuffer size...?
[04:42] <intelikey> well.   i'll let yall sort that out.   i'm console without X anyway.
[04:42] <tin> before i changed xorg.conf, KDM uses 1024x768, which may be the default fb size
[04:42] <c00kie> would that be possible for me to do the above?
[04:42] <ardchoille> donutman25: You got a screensaver on your NIC? Cool
[04:43] <tin> i can't recall what the first mode in xorg.conf was though...
[04:43] <DaSkreech> donutman25: how are you connecting?
[04:43] <donutman25> cable modem with router
[04:43] <intelikey> tin   first mode is 640x480
[04:43] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech:  Vista supposedly has partioning resizing capablities from within the OS
[04:43] <c00kie> i'll brb
[04:44] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: I know
[04:44] <tin> then X may borrow the fb size if it's bigger than the config's first one
[04:44] <DaSkreech> I just want to know if the CD can do it
[04:44] <donutman25> DaSkreech: cable modem with wired router
[04:45] <tin> c00kie: do you realize that you can install ubuntu WITH kubuntu...?
[04:45] <intelikey> tin  oh wait.   first in the list you mean.    "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"  <<< like that ?
[04:45] <DaSkreech> can You ping 194.9.77.5 ?
[04:45] <tin> is that the default list? and yes
[04:45] <intelikey> yeah
[04:45] <draik> tin: I don't want to edit the XORG.CONF file. I have things setup how I need them now for Beryl. Besides, it's just the screen resolution for my login.
[04:46] <|Assassin`|> can someone help me a little to get started :)
[04:46] <tin> draik: i know. your desktop size gets changed upon login, when KDE reads your prefs
[04:46] <|Assassin`|> i was working with ubuntu a little and decided to switch over to kubuntu
[04:46] <tin> but when KDM first starts, it only has the xorg.conf info to look at
[04:46] <|Assassin`|> i like it better
[04:47] <tin> if you make X's default match your preferred size....
[04:47] <tin> all you have to do is change the order of the possible modes
[04:47] <_6StringKng_> when I go to play mp3 files in amarok, it ask me to install mp3 support but then locks up
[04:47] <|Assassin`|> lol
[04:47] <tin> X will use the first in the list unless told otherwise
[04:47] <intelikey> :)
[04:47] <tin> and it's not told otherwise until AFTER you log in
[04:47] <bernier> hi, I instaled KDE4 on feisty, but now, how   do I get it   toreplace  kde3 ..?
[04:47] <DonMCN> Can somebody explain to me how to install the newest Java either by command prompt or by something else.
[04:48] <ardchoille> !java
[04:48] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:48] <donutman25> DaSkreech: no i cant
[04:48] <intelikey> i was just trying to help him get started....
[04:48] <DaSkreech> bernier: Wha?
[04:48] <|Assassin`|> how can i update my video driver for my integrated radeon xpress 200 :) it used to run really good
[04:48] <intelikey> |Assassin`| the ati driver howto on the wiki ?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> donutman25: can you ping your gateway?
[04:49] <intelikey> !ati | |Assassin`|
[04:49] <ubotu> |Assassin`|: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:49] <|Assassin`|> i had a tweaked driver for it but i wanna know how to through the terminal
[04:49] <|Assassin`|> ok
[04:49] <|Assassin`|> i'll try it
[04:49] <|Assassin`|> :)
[04:49] <donutman25> DaSkreech: no i cant
[04:49] <DaSkreech> donutman25: Seriously?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> can you ping your IP address ?
[04:50] <donutman25> DaSkreech: cant do that either
[04:50] <bernier> I installed KDE4 on feisty, but now, how do I get it to replace kde3 ..?
[04:50] <jaevel> can someone help me fix my nvidia driver? i tried to install the nvidia-glx-new driver and it failed, i remove the driver and re-installed nvidia-glx and it will not work?
[04:50] <intelikey> hey doode if it like tweeks your mellon  you can come back and ask again ya know.
[04:50] <DaSkreech> bernier: why would you want to?
[04:50] <DaSkreech> donutman25: So the problem is your box then
[04:51] <DaSkreech> You have a ip address?
[04:51] <bernier> DaSkreech to try it
[04:51] <donutman25> DaSkreech: yes i do
[04:52] <DonMCN> Can somebody explain to me how to install the newest Java by command prompt?
[04:52] <DaSkreech> bernier: ... Hmm I would say the easiest way to try it is the KDE4 Live cd
[04:52] <DaSkreech> !java
[04:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:52] <DaSkreech> donutman25: can you ping localhost?
[04:52] <Jucato> bernier: the instructions on how to properly use KDE 4 is in the kubuntu.org announcement page. you *do not* replace KDE 3
[04:53] <intelikey> jaevel do you have a kernel module in use that is in the way of the "reinstalled" one ?    may require a restart for that.   unless you are comfi with for Q in `lsmod | cut -d' ' -f1` ;do modprobe -r $Q ;done          or the like....
[04:53] <_6StringKng_> could someone help me with amarok, last few times I had Kubuntu installed it worked great, now when It asks to install mp3 support it locks up
[04:53] <DaSkreech> nzk: You could at least run F@H and cre cancer :)
[04:54] <bernier> DaSkreech I just don't know what to do after running the "export" commands
[04:54] <WillLuongo> how can I see a list of where my physical harddrives are so I can mount them?
[04:54] <DaSkreech> !kde4
[04:54] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[04:54] <Jucato> WillLuongo: you can use the Disks and Filesystem module in System Settings -> Advanced tab
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Jucato: ping. any docs on running a pure KDE4 in kubuntu?
[04:54] <intelikey> WillLuongo sudo fdisk -l
[04:54] <GWillakers> willLuongo: fdisk -l
[04:54] <jaevel> intelikey, yeah, thats a little over my head... i have reboot a couple of times already
[04:55] <_6StringKng_> !amarok
[04:55] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[04:55] <Jucato> DaSkreech: pure KDE 4? no. just how to launch KDE 4 apps or start a full KDE 4 session
[04:55] <intelikey> jaevel hmmm   then it shouldn't be that.
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Full KDE session how do you do that?
[04:55] <Jucato> DaSkreech: check in kubuntu.org
[04:55] <Jucato> announcement for KDE 4 alpha packages
[04:56] <_6StringKng_> anyone?
[04:56] <Jucato> _6StringKng_: just manuall install libxine-extracodecs and you'll be ok
[04:56] <DaSkreech> bernier: there you go
[04:56] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I already told him that a while ago
[04:56] <DaSkreech> ah Missed that
[04:56] <intelikey> jaevel don't have an old xorg.conf*  that perdates the upgrade do you ?
[04:56] <kpshubert> Okay, I am back and with another question (still relating to the problem I am having with my nic).
[04:57] <_6StringKng_> link to tutorial possibly, lol?
[04:57] <jaevel> intelikey, i started with an error like it didnt like the kernel module and the driver module versions, said kernel 1.0.7184 and X module 1.0-9631
[04:57] <Jucato> _6StringKng_: um.. just launch Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager, search for "libxine-extracodecs" and install it
[04:57] <jaevel> intelikey, not that i know of, i think my backup is the original file made during install
[04:58] <_6StringKng_> k, thanks
[04:58] <intelikey> jaevel ok then it is still the kernel module, i'm thinking  you'll have to rebuild the module.
[04:58] <intelikey> kpshubert and ?
[04:58] <kpshubert> Can anyone tell me if there is either: a) a way to get a comprehensive list of what i/o ports are used where or b) a way to find out what a specific i/o port address is being used for?
[04:58] <jaevel> intelikey, cant i just remove it all and re-install it?
[04:59] <_6StringKng_> k, well in mandriva I think there was an option to change the login screen like how you change thge splash screen, know how to do it in Kubuntu?
[04:59] <WillLuongo> When I use 'mount device path' is it permanent?
[04:59] <intelikey> jaevel yeah.   are you using a binarry package ?
[04:59] <donutman25> DaSkreech: yes i  can ping my local host
[04:59] <Jucato> _6StringKng_: you have to install the package "kdmtheme"
[04:59] <_6StringKng_> k
[04:59] <jaevel> intelikey, i believe so.. let me look at whats intalled....
[04:59] <DaSkreech> donutman25: that's strange do you have the card enabled?
[05:00] <donutman25> yes i  do
[05:00] <kpshubert> WillLuongo: it should not persist... if you want thing automounted, you should add them to fstab.
[05:00] <|Assassin`|> how do i get flashplayer to work?
[05:00] <kpshubert> WillLuongo: and if you want it to "go away" you should be able to use umount.
[05:00] <donutman25> DaSkreech: Yes i do
[05:00] <DaSkreech> ...
[05:00] <DaSkreech> hmm
[05:01] <j__> anyone know how emerald themer work
[05:01] <DaSkreech> !networking
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <DaSkreech> !network
[05:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:01] <c00kie> tin, is there any way to make ubuntu replace kubuntu?
[05:01] <c00kie> since i don't have space to spare
[05:01] <jaevel> intelikey, i have installed "nvidia-kernel-common" "linux-restricted-modules 2.6.20" and "nvidia-glx"
[05:01] <tin> what do you mean, space to spare?
[05:02] <donutman25> DaSkreech: i also have another problem
[05:02] <c00kie> i've got 3gb left out of both my hd's
[05:02] <c00kie> and ubuntu requires 4
[05:02] <jaevel> intelikey, if i install a new nvidia kernel i nee to reboot?
[05:02] <tin> most of that 4 is already installed with kubuntu
[05:02] <c00kie> basically, i'm asking how i'd uninstall kubuntu
[05:02] <DaSkreech> donutman25: speak
[05:02] <bernier> DaSkreech also, i'd like to know, I have a  fat32 partition which I have to mount everytime I boot .. and I just don't know what to write in fstab. everything I tried doesn't work
[05:03] <tin> if you install ubuntu-desktop, you'll get "Ubuntu"
[05:03] <c00kie> would that be possible?
[05:03] <donutman25> DaSkreech: When  i enter my password to get into administrator mode it says "converstion with su failed"
[05:03] <tin> dev/hda8              20G  6.3G   12G  35% /
[05:03] <DaSkreech> bernier: pastebin your fstab
[05:03] <tin> that's with a bunch of extra software installed
[05:03] <DaSkreech> donutman25: that sounds like a failed lib :(
[05:04] <tin> and both kubuntu-desktop and most of ubuntu-desktop installed
[05:04] <tin> the line is Total-size, used-size, free-size, used-%
[05:05] <c00kie> so, if i install ubuntu on the same hd as kubuntu, it'll still fit?
[05:05] <c00kie> i've got kubuntu on a 4gb hd
[05:05] <tin> how much space does the drive have total?
[05:05] <donutman25> DaSkreech: this causes a serious problem because now  i cannot update
[05:05] <c00kie> 4.03gb
[05:05] <_6StringKng_> I don't remember who told me to install the codecs for amarok to work properly but thanks a bunch
[05:05] <DaSkreech> I know
[05:05] <tin> and it's got 3 GiB free?
[05:05] <intelikey> kpshubert less /proc/ioports
[05:05] <c00kie> no, my other hd has
[05:05] <DaSkreech> can you just su ?
[05:05] <tin> what's free where kubuntu is installed?
[05:05] <bernier> DaSkreech http://pastebin.ca/492288
[05:06] <kpshubert> Thanks yet again intelikey!
[05:06] <c00kie> don't know
[05:06] <kpshubert> ...most go again... time to play some more :_P
[05:06] <c00kie> how much does kubuntu require for install?
[05:06] <kpshubert> ...bye all!
[05:06] <networkparadox> anyone running Fiesty with a static IP?
[05:06] <david2> How come is it when I set up samba to work it goes to hell later when I try to access it later on?
[05:06] <c00kie> i will be soon i hope
[05:07] <david2> All my music is on my linux machine damn it
[05:07] <_6StringKng_> k, forgot how to disable the bouncy cursors, could someone refresh my memory, been a while since I used Kubuntu, lol
[05:07] <intelikey> jaevel yes.  the only reason to reboot a linux system is for major kernel changes.  the vidio driver in the kernel normally qualifies as major.
[05:07] <c00kie> tin?
[05:07] <networkparadox> david2: too bad there is no sshfs for windows, the os x port works great
[05:07] <dsmith_> i like the bouncy icons
[05:08] <bernier> me too
[05:08] <intelikey> yo yo
[05:08] <DaSkreech> bernier: /media/d is yours ?
[05:08] <david2> I can't afford a MAC
[05:08] <tin> c00kie: open a konsole, and type 'df -h'
[05:08] <bernier> DaSkreech yes, once it's mounted, I mount it there
[05:08] <c00kie> what will that do?
[05:08] <tin> paste and /dev/hd lines to me
[05:08] <Jucato> _6StringKng_: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", Apperance & Themes -> Launch Feedback
[05:08] <david2> But I suppose I could download Mac OS X for x86 machines
[05:08] <david2> but then I couldn't run formflow\
[05:08] <bernier> DaSkreech, I'm not sure what I added is correct
[05:09] <DaSkreech> bernier: You do know that you are missing a column right ?
[05:09] <tin> it'll tell us about your disk usage
[05:09] <bernier> I guess it's not since it's not workin g
[05:09] <_6StringKng_> k, thanks jucato
[05:09] <david2> I just need windows for one stiniking program
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Look at the top where it lists the columns in <>
[05:09] <david2> wine wont run it
[05:09] <DaSkreech> You have one less column than that
[05:09] <_6StringKng_> I use windows for games, bout it
[05:09] <_6StringKng_> lol
[05:09] <c00kie> so can i pm yyou with that tin?
[05:09] <david2> that and porn
[05:09] <tin> yes
[05:09] <j__> dpkg -r kubuntu-desktop
[05:09] <_6StringKng_> haven't used linux in a while, just moved, got dsl again, so decided to install it again
[05:09] <bernier> DaSkreech yeah just realized, should it work if I fix it?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Supreme Commander FT... boredom :-(
[05:10] <bernier> I mean, the rest it ok?
[05:10] <DaSkreech> bernier: Yeah
[05:10] <david2> Thatr stupid encryption they put on the files that xine or mplayer can't read
[05:10] <j__> anyone know how emerald themer work
[05:10] <j__> anyone know how emerald themer works
[05:10] <david2> Yeah
[05:10] <david2> click on it
[05:10] <david2> and choose a theme
[05:10] <david2> that simple
[05:10] <j__> thats it
[05:10] <j__> wow
[05:10] <david2> YEah
[05:10] <david2> the just of it
[05:10] <Jucato> !beryl | j__
[05:10] <ubotu> j__: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:10] <david2> I never bothered adding themes
[05:11] <bernier> DaSkreech and what should I write for the missing column?
[05:11] <jaevel> intelikey, where can i find what video cards are supported by the nvidia-glx-new driver?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> defaults I guess
[05:11] <david2> hmmm
[05:11] <bernier> ok
[05:11] <DaSkreech> You can read the man for mount and work it out yourself
[05:11] <j__> it dont work for me
[05:12] <bernier> ima try it
[05:12] <bernier> thanks
[05:12] <intelikey> jaevel i don't know.   sorry.   i got a little ticked at nvidia when i found that my card is not supported and lost interest.
[05:12] <j__> it wont replace my old theme that easy but it aint emerald
[05:12] <bernier> DaSkreech where can I find this  manual?
[05:12] <DaSkreech> bernier: open konqueror and type  man:/mount
[05:12] <bernier> thanks
[05:12] <jaevel> intelikey, lol, i think i may be in the same boat...
[05:13] <david2> rsync needs to be root to do a full backup right?
[05:13] <intelikey> jaevel i hope not.     oh and i think not.  didn't you say it "was working fine"  until you tried to update the driver ?
[05:13] <BluesKaj> well, windows is history on this pc ...finally took the plunge :)
[05:14] <jaevel> intelikey, yes, but i think the new driver no longer supports my board...
[05:14] <BluesKaj> the threats over the patents was enuff to put me over the edge
[05:14] <intelikey> so use the older one.
[05:15] <intelikey> uninstall all nvidia*   and install the older driver just like it was a clean install
[05:15] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Oh people actually noticed that?
[05:15] <|Assassin`|> how do i turn on direct rendering through the terminal?
[05:15] <|Assassin`|> direct rendering: No
[05:15] <|Assassin`|> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:15] <DaSkreech> I keep tihnking that MS and the DOJ are whispering when they do that
[05:15] <jaevel> intelikey, i will, and this time ill make sure i reboot...
[05:16] <Kr4t05> DaSkreech: I just took the time to laugh at it... Because right above it was a headline about Japan going OSS. :P
[05:16] <intelikey> ok guys i'm out for a while.   watch that assassin  i think he's after Jucato ...
[05:16] <jaevel> intelikey, thanks for the help... if it doesnt work, ill be back tomorrow...
[05:16] <intelikey> jaevel any time.   good luck to your pinguin
[05:17] <BluesKaj> ZDNET loves MS but they couldn't resist reporting the latest silliness , DaSkreech :)
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Kr4t05: doesn't mean they should get away with doing it
[05:18] <BluesKaj> they won't , unless the business types cave
[05:18] <Kr4t05> DaSkreech: I just ignore Ballmer... He's like a tempermental kid... When he realizes the no one will cave to tantrums, then he'll slowly go away.
[05:18] <bernier> DaSkreech I alway get this errer: mount: mount point /mnt/d does not exist . But in fact, it does exist ...
[05:18] <DaSkreech> does it?
[05:18] <bernier> i'm in it right now..
[05:19] <bernier> oh
[05:19] <bernier> got it
[05:19] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:19] <bernier> didn't know d or D made a difference
[05:20] <bernier> :)
[05:20] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:20] <lobster> anyone know of a good multimedia conversion GUI?
[05:20] <lobster> hello, BTW
[05:21] <BluesKaj> devede and tovid-gui
[05:21] <lobster> devede?
[05:21] <DaSkreech> !info mixxx
[05:21] <ubotu> mixxx: Digital Disc Jockey Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.0svn~20070130dfsg-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 435 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[05:21] <_6StringKng_> k, totally forgot how to install flash player for firefox, someone help?
[05:21] <DaSkreech> !find jockey
[05:21] <ubotu> Package/file jockey does not exist in feisty
[05:21] <DaSkreech> !flash | _6StringKng_
[05:21] <ubotu> _6StringKng_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:21] <BluesKaj> yes lobster , it uses a GUI thats configgable
[05:22] <DaSkreech> !search jockey
[05:22] <ubotu> Found:
[05:22] <bernier> DaSkreech another  problem .. :P I cannot write to my mounted  partition
[05:22] <DaSkreech> bernier: read the man:/mount
[05:22] <bernier> k
[05:22] <DaSkreech> bernier: pay special attention to the -o option
[05:22] <DaSkreech> that's where you get your mount to behave how you want it to
[05:23] <|Assassin`|> how do i set up my driver :(
[05:23] <|Assassin`|> im looking at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto#head-8055f455b66a39399b91db278f9a12b91a5b123c
[05:24] <bernier> so it would be -o.rw?
[05:24] <bernier> -o,rw *
[05:25] <lobster> uhh, I can't find tovid, but devede is not what I am looking for.
[05:26] <lobster> I want to convert avi to 3gp, or 3gp to mpeg, or mp3 to ogg, etc.  I know I can do it commando with ffmpeg, but I was hoping for a nice easy gui, for a cleaner config
[05:26] <BluesKaj> lobster: #tovid ..they have a room
[05:26] <DaSkreech> bernier: yeah
[05:26] <DaSkreech> bernier: or user or umask
[05:27] <Ich> i'm having a font problem
[05:27] <Ich> http://pastebin.ca/492314
[05:28] <david2> ugh\
[05:28] <bernier> user or umaks instead of -o,rw?
[05:28] <Ich> i tried installing it with apt
[05:28] <bernier> iI can't get  it to work =/
[05:28] <DaSkreech> bernier: You don't need the -o
[05:28] <DaSkreech> just put the ,rw in the fstab
[05:29] <Ich> i am running dist-upgrade. how do i set it so it doesn't replace a package?
[05:29] <bernier> just rw
[05:29] <bernier> instead  of defaults
[05:29] <bernier> ?
[05:30] <Assassin`> i can't get my driver to work right
[05:30] <DaSkreech> defaults,rw
[05:31] <_6StringKng_> I used the script for mounting my windows drives, I assumed I would have rite access as well as read, guess not, could someone help.  I used some other app last time I had Kubuntu installed, don't remember what it was called though, ntfs something or another
[05:31] <Assassin`> direct rendering: No
[05:31] <Assassin`> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:31] <Assassin`> 
[05:31] <Assassin`> what do i do ?
[05:31] <_6StringKng_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-e070ee95af2fd63663dff08b8fd783f429bc29a5 thats the tutorial
[05:31] <Ick> _6StringKng_: if it's formatted as NTFS, you don't really get write acces
[05:31] <Carnage\> What can be the reason that my Feisty is not able to acquire a DHCP lease anymore whereas it is working with Windows (so the ethernet card works)?
[05:31] <Ick> s
[05:32] <kalorin`> welp
[05:32] <kalorin`> so that's done
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Carnage\: I"ve heard of that. GOogle it
[05:32] <_6StringKng_> uh, I used an app that let me do whatever I want, wish i could rember what it was called, I'll google it
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Carnage\: or as a workaround set it static
[05:32] <Carnage\> DaSkreech: Tried that, but that didn't work either...
[05:32] <_6StringKng_> ntfs-3g is what its called, cool, found it
[05:33] <Assassin`> can someone help me with my driver installation please :)
[05:33] <kalorin`> assassin: this the ati drivers?
[05:33] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g | _6StringKng_
[05:33] <ubotu> _6StringKng_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:33] <kalorin`> or nvidia or what?
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Carnage\: static didn't work?
[05:33] <_6StringKng_> !ATI
[05:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:33] <Assassin`> ati
[05:33] <bernier> DaSkreech when i type "mount" in konsole  it says my D is rw but I still cannot write to it
[05:33] <kalorin`> yeah just finished mine
[05:33] <kalorin`> it's not so hard
[05:33] <kalorin`> join #kalorin
[05:33] <DaSkreech> bernier: try umask or uid
[05:35] <bernier> still doesn't work
[05:35] <bernier>  /dev/sda5       /mnt/D          auto defaults,umask,uid,rw  0       0
[05:36] <kalorin`> welp, my 6.10 -> 7.04 upgrade went pretty much as expected, ran fine, crashed when removing old drivers
[05:36] <kalorin`> had to redo the ati drivers
[05:36] <kalorin`> and that was about that
[05:36] <DaSkreech> bernier: did you read the sections for umask or uid?
[05:36] <bernier> no, but I guess I will :P
[05:36] <DaSkreech> bernier: :-D
[05:37] <Assassin`> im sorry but that link didn't work for me
[05:37] <kalorin`> adn really the only tricky part with the ati drivers anymore I think is the kernel module
[05:37] <kalorin`> that link works fine
[05:37] <Assassin`> i don't know what to do after
[05:37] <kalorin`> I just did a kernel upgrade and it's exactly what you need to do assassin
[05:37] <bernier> and how do I know whiich value to write to them?
[05:37] <kalorin`> pull the installer, have it build the package as it says to
[05:37] <Kr4t05>  /join #imagi
[05:37] <Kr4t05> ?!?
[05:38] <Kr4t05> Stupid thing...
[05:38] <kalorin`> install the.deb's that it builds, then install the kernel module
[05:38] <Assassin`> ?
[05:38] <Assassin`> im new to this btw
[05:38] <Kr4t05> Disregard that, k thnx
[05:38] <Assassin`> really new
[05:38] <kalorin`> it gives you all the commands in order
[05:38] <kalorin`> I said, join #kalorin
[05:38] <kalorin`> I'll walk you through it
[05:38] <Assassin`> me
[05:38] <kalorin`> u
[05:38] <Assassin`> ok thank you :)
[05:39] <bernier> DaSkreech and how do I know which value to write to it?
[05:39] <DaSkreech> bernier: Which one are you talking about?
[05:39] <bernier> let's say umask
[05:40] <DaSkreech> 0022
[05:42] <bernier> DaSkreech still doesn't work =/
[05:42] <DaSkreech> You remounted it?
[05:43] <bernier> sudo mount -a
[05:43] <bernier> that's what I did
[05:43] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /mnt/D -o remount would do better
[05:44] <Ick> how do i fix this locale error?
[05:44] <Ick> http://pastebin.ca/492332
[05:44] <Ick> anybody?
[05:45] <dr_willis> could summerize a bit more. :) somne one may skim the channel/text and know the fix
[05:46] <david2> Anyone have a sample of a samba.conf they can put on paste-bin cause all the somes I see on ubuntu/kubuntu site only work once in a blue moon
[05:46] <dr_willis> Hmmm  perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[05:46] <bernier> when I type "mount"
[05:46] <bernier> I get: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/D type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=0022)
[05:46] <dr_willis> I belive thats a rather common perl message/error.
[05:46] <bernier> but it still doesn't  work
[05:46] <dr_willis> bernier,  define 'dosetn work' - can root access it?
[05:46] <david2> is the  vfat kernel module loaded?
[05:47] <david2> or fat or whatever it is called
[05:47] <bernier> dr_willis writing to it
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> david2: i think its actually compiled in by default
[05:47] <firegun> hello ?
[05:47] <david2> How should I know
[05:47] <david2> I nver built the kernel
[05:48] <david2> point is make sure the kernel know how to use it lol
[05:48] <dr_willis> bernier,  you can read the files but cant write to it as a user? can root write to it?
[05:48] <bernier> dr_willis didn't try as root, but i'm not  very good with all the commands
[05:50] <dr_willis> its highly likely its a permission issue. users dont have full access to the mounted drive.
[05:51] <bernier> dr_willis is there a  way I can enable it?
[05:51] <lobster> once while using debian sarge i built a general colonel for private use.
[05:51] <firegun> hi, I need a help with something stupid, but... I need to mount a SMB share but when I try to do it it keeps saying smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported ;/
[05:51] <dr_willis> bernier,  mount it properly with the proper options. :)
[05:52] <dr_willis> bernier,  read/writeing to vfat/fat has been standard for ages.. NTFS is not so standard.
[05:52] <dr_willis> my fave info sote on the topic
[05:52] <dr_willis> argh.. cant find the link.. :(
[05:52] <bernier> dr_willis it's fat not NTFS
[05:53] <dr_willis> bernier,  if its vfat theres nothign to enable. :) its allready supported. like i said.,
[05:53] <firegun> can some1 help me with taht
[05:53] <firegun> taht
[05:53] <firegun> that
[05:53] <lobster> ? what was that ^^?
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> netsplit
[05:53] <bernier> dr_willis but it didn't automount  vefore I edit  fstab, and  I cannot write to it
[05:53] <bernier> this is weird
[05:53] <firegun> the problem with a smb mount
[05:53] <_6StringKng_> !ntfs-3g
[05:53] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:54] <lobster> firegun, how are you setting up the share?
[05:54] <DonMCN> Can somebody tell me why Amarok freezes up once I try to Install MP3 Support?
[05:54] <david2> How can I figure out what processes are using what portS?
[05:55] <firegun> mount -t smbfs -o username=...,password=... //192.168.2.1/jobs /mnt/jobs
[05:55] <dsmith_> david2 netstat?
[05:55] <DonMCN> I open up a MP3 file, and Amarok opens, and tells me it needs to install MP3 support, but it freezes immediately.
[05:55] <lobster> and the error?
[05:56] <firegun> lobster: but I can access it from a konkeror window
[05:56] <Carnage`> DaSkreech: Sorry, had disconnect
[05:56] <Carnage`> No with static assignment, it didn't work either
[05:56] <firegun> lobster: the error in syslog is smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported
[05:56] <lobster> firegun and the error?
[05:56] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | DonMCN
[05:56] <ubotu> DonMCN: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:56] <Carnage`> So at first glance, I suspected the ethernet card to be broken, but it wasn't. It works with Windows...
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> firegun: you need a : after the IP address
[05:57] <lobster> firegun: but you can access over the network?
[05:57] <firegun> lobster: yeah
[05:57] <firegun> hitmanWilly: I will try
[05:57] <kpshubert> In the continuing saga of the malfunctioning nic...
[05:58] <lobster> anyone know of a decent ffmpeg frontend?
[05:58] <firegun> hitmanWilly: some like mount -t smbfs -o username=...,password=... //192.168.2.1:/jobs /mnt/jobs ? cause it dont works ;//
[05:58] <dr_willis> bernier,  with automounting of vfat/ntfs under kubuntu - the system normally mounts them wehre users can read only. as a secrity feature
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> might have been thinking of something else then...NFS probably
[05:59] <dr_willis> bernier,  i would guess you need touse the user/users/umask=0002 or 0000 options in the fstab.
[05:59] <kpshubert> There are three lines in /proc/ioports that talk about the address the nic wants, but I am not smart enough to understand what they mean  :-(
[05:59] <Carnage\> 
[05:59] <bernier> dr_willis im currently using 0022
[06:00] <bernier> i should use 000 instead?
[06:00] <kpshubert> de00-deff : 0000:00:0c.0
[06:00] <kpshubert>   de00-de03 : motherboard
[06:00] <kpshubert>     de00-de03 : pnp 00:01
[06:00] <kpshubert> I know that 0000:00:0c.0 is function 0 of the card I am trying to get to work...
[06:00] <dr_willis> bernier,  try it and see.. i cant recall ever using 0022
[06:02] <dr_willis> sudo mount -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/d
[06:02] <bernier> dr_willis got it to  work by ticking the box "supress permission errors" in system settings > disk  and filesystems
[06:02] <dr_willis> or similer.
[06:02] <bernier> :P
[06:02] <dr_willis> bernier,  never used that tool. I edit the thing manually
[06:02] <lobster> firegun: can you do a reinstall if smbfs ( sudo apt-get install smbfs )
[06:03] <firegun> lobster: Ie updated it to the last version yeasterday ;/
[06:03] <firegun> lobster: I've
[06:04] <lobster> firegun: look here http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2001-March/025870.html
[06:05] <lobster> firegun: and here: https://launchpad.net/bugs/50651
[06:05] <lobster> firegun: and here: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/165
[06:05] <kpshubert> de00-deff : 0000:00:0c.0
[06:05] <kpshubert>   de00-de03 : motherboard
[06:05] <kpshubert>     de00-de03 : pnp 00:01
[06:05] <tin> .j #ubuntu
[06:05] <tin> oops
[06:08] <Assassin`> !ati
[06:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:08] <neptunepink> what's the thing you do when aptget crashes?
[06:09] <firegun> lobster: hitmanWilly: thank u guys! it worked
[06:09] <kpshubert> No takers on my question?
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> neptunepink: try dpkg --configure -a
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> k
[06:09] <neptunepink> says db is locked how do I unlock it?
[06:10] <neptunepink> ah, got it
[06:10] <lobster> firegun: what was the fix?
[06:13] <kpshubert> Well, I would love it if someone could help me out, but I really have to get to bed, so I guess I will have to come back to it.
[06:14] <lobster> is there a channel for irc noobs?
[06:22] <Berto> hi - what's the best place to get pidgin 2.0 for kubuntu?   any good sources to add?
[06:23] <specialbuddy> how can I crack wep keys?
[06:24] <Zeelot> hello
[06:24] <_6StringKng_> what other kind of media players are there, video wise for Kubuntu?
[06:24] <_6StringKng_> Kaffeine seemed ok
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy: there's about 20 different ones, none of which im going to tell you :)
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> s/ones/ways
[06:25] <specialbuddy> well I can't even figure out why iwconfig doesn't work
[06:26] <Zeelot> I just finished installing kubuntu, installed beryl and nvidia drivers and seemed to work fine, then i reboot (for first time since install) and now I get a black screen after the kubuntu logo.  Any help? I cant login or run any commands, but I can type stuff on the screen
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy: does it return anything?
[06:27] <specialbuddy> Zeelot dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:27] <specialbuddy> type that in console and follow it and change nv to nvidia
[06:27] <Zeelot> specialbuddy can't run any commands
[06:27] <specialbuddy> that might help
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy: or just dump out an error
[06:28] <Zeelot> how do I get to a console
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> Zeelot: ctrl-alt-f1
[06:28] <specialbuddy> it returns eth1 unassociated ESSID:off/any
[06:28] <DonMCN> Hey guys, once again I have a problem. Should I use kmplayer or mplayer to watch WMP movies over Firefox?
[06:29] <DonMCN> Should I use kmplayer or mplayer to watch WMP movies over Firefox?
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy: so its just not connecting, huh...
[06:29] <specialbuddy> hitmanWilly, I can see networks using Knetwork manager
[06:29] <specialbuddy> so how can I see them with iwconfig?
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy: can you connect through that?
[06:30] <specialbuddy> well I probably could but I don't know the wep
[06:30] <specialbuddy> I'm at my house trying to connect to my router
[06:30] <Noldoaran> is there a way to make tab completion case insensitive in bash?
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy: can you run a hardline and reconfig the router that way?
[06:31] <specialbuddy> well It's my roommates
[06:31] <specialbuddy> he's not here
[06:31] <specialbuddy> but...
[06:32] <specialbuddy> I would rather try it the hard way
[06:32] <specialbuddy> because I want to know how to do it anyway
[06:32] <Assassin`> i can't enable direct rendering
[06:32] <specialbuddy> and supposedly wep isn't secure so I want to see how easy it is
[06:32] <Assassin`> help please
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> iwconfig won't show the ESSID unless its already connected
[06:33] <specialbuddy> well I iwlist eth1 scanning
[06:33] <specialbuddy> and found it
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy: well, again, im not gonna help you crack keys, but it shouldn't be too hard to find out how
[06:35] <Assassin`> can someone please help me enable direct rendering
[06:36] <Assassin`> ive been trying for like an hour
[06:36] <Assassin`> :)
[06:36] <PsiKloPx> I just installed feisty fawn on my Gateway (dual booting)...my max resolution is 1024 x 768 - how can I get it to go higher?  My card is ATI Radeon X300 SE 128 MB
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: nvidia or ati?
[06:36] <Assassin`> ive alreade looked at this
[06:36] <Assassin`> !ati
[06:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:36] <Assassin`> im having an issue
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> sorry, don't know much about those cards
[06:37] <Dezine> So.. I have a laptop that supports dual screens, I set it up through system settings and restarted and it works but the second screen's resolution is way too high but I can't open "Monitor and Display" it just crashes
[06:38] <strabes> Dezine: you'll most likely have to change it manually in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:38] <Assassin`> but it should be the same
[06:38] <strabes> especially if you have an ATI card
[06:38] <strabes> i have no idea how to do that though so don't ask me
[06:38] <Dezine> alright
[06:38] <Assassin`> nvidia/ati have the same commands no?
[06:39] <Assassin`> it shouldn't matter the card right?
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: i don't believe so
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: the options change in xorg.conf depending on the card
[06:39] <Assassin`> :/
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> or driver to be more accurate
[06:40] <Assassin`> true
[06:40] <Assassin`> but what would it be for nvidia
[06:41] <Assassin`> when i type in glxinfo |grep direct i get this:
[06:41] <Assassin`> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:41] <Assassin`> direct rendering: No
[06:41] <Assassin`> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:41] <Assassin`> any ideas at all on how to fix that ?
[06:41] <kalorin`> !ati
[06:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:42] <kalorin`> it mentions making a symlink
[06:42] <kalorin`> for DRI
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: for nvidia, if you've got the driver enabled, that's all it takes
[06:42] <kalorin`> part of the way down the directions
[06:42] <Assassin`> how do i enable it
[06:42] <Assassin`> like for nvidia
[06:42] <kalorin`> read the page and follow the directions
[06:42] <Assassin`> i did ">.<"
[06:42] <Assassin`> lol
[06:42] <kalorin`> you have to link a module in there
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: if you followed the install instructions, you already should
[06:42] <Assassin`> over and over :)
[06:43] <Assassin`> link a module meaning?
[06:44] <Assassin`> haha
[06:44] <Assassin`> its integrated
[06:44] <Assassin`> :/
[06:44] <wayl> hola
[06:44] <Assassin`> no moneys for the nice card
[06:45] <Assassin`> ati radeon xpress 200
[06:45] <wayl> como puedo buscar temas de conversaciones, o grupos en este programa
[06:45] <Assassin`> still better than pci cards
[06:45] <dr_willis> Assassin`,  heh - im not too sure about that. :)
[06:46] <dr_willis> i wish nvidia was more common in laptops.
[06:46] <Assassin`> pci e??
[06:46] <Assassin`> 7900?
[06:46] <pisq> when a memory stick shows error on screen,does that mean it's bad?
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> on the desktop, 7600 mobile on the lappy
[06:46] <Assassin`> i c
[06:47] <wayl> hola
[06:47] <Assassin`> but where do i find the configuration to enable my drivers
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> but even the lower end nvidia cards still work pretty good
[06:47] <pisq> hola
[06:47] <dr_willis> Assassin`,  for my ati 200m - i found the fglrx drivers to be a bit buggy. so i stuck wth the standard ATI drivers.
[06:48] <Assassin`> well i have that on my desktop
[06:48] <Assassin`> i don't know how to install it
[06:48] <dr_willis> I like some of the Nvidia cards that are now fanless.  for my Mythtv box's
[06:48] <Assassin`> can't open bin file
[06:48] <Assassin`> heat sink ftw !
[06:48] <dr_willis> Assassin`,  if you are using .bin files - you proberly need to research what you are doing. :)
[06:48] <dr_willis> Assassin`,  you want to isntall the fglrx drivers for your ati based machine?
[06:48] <specialbuddy> how do I find my wireless mac address?
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy: ifconfig
[06:49] <Assassin`> the ati driver was a bin file
[06:49] <dr_willis> specialbuddy,  ethtool or ifconfig - can show that info i belive
[06:49] <Assassin`> i knew they wouldn't work for kubuntu
[06:49] <dr_willis> Assassin`,  not really :) they are in the repositories. :) no need to use the .bin version
[06:49] <Assassin`> its just sitting teir
[06:49] <specialbuddy> thanks
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy: its under HWaddr
[06:49] <dr_willis> !ati
[06:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:49] <Assassin`> ok
[06:49] <Assassin`> i did that
[06:49] <Assassin`> over and over
[06:49] <Assassin`> i need to enable my direct rendering
[06:50] <Assassin`> its not turned on
[06:50] <dr_willis> then ya missed a step. It takes me all of. like 3 min to get the fglrx going on a new install. now as far as direct rendering.. Not sure. never noticed it being one way or the other.
[06:50] <Assassin`> glxinfo |grep direct
[06:50] <dr_willis> not evensure how to check.
[06:50] <dr_willis> and since the laptop is way across the house. :) it aint getting chedked.. of course its now using the 'ati' driver not 'fglrx'
[06:51] <Assassin`> this is my output
[06:51] <Assassin`> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:51] <Assassin`> direct rendering: No
[06:51] <Assassin`> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: yup, that's software rendering alright
[06:51] <Assassin`> :)
[06:51] <Assassin`> but its not working yet
[06:51] <Assassin`> i need to make it work
[06:51] <dr_willis> givenhow flakey the fglrx stuff was on my system. Ill stick with 'ati' for now.
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: see if there's any refernce to mesa in xorg.conf
[06:52] <Assassin`> so how do i get the ati drivers through the terminal
[06:52] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install fglrx or similer..
[06:52] <Assassin`> instead of fglrx drivers
[06:52] <Assassin`> ati
[06:52] <Assassin`> i will try
[06:52] <Assassin`> h/o
[06:53] <Assassin`> :/
[06:53] <dr_willis> ati drivers those are 'default' install. just change 'fglrx' in the xorg.conf file from 'Driver fglrx' to 'Driver ati' normally
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> the open ati drivers don't support direct rendering tho
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> iirc
[06:53] <dr_willis> with fglrx - every time i logged out. i got a black screen and had to reboot. plus lockups.
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> ati's linux binaries are buggy
[06:54] <Assassin`> im still confused
[06:55] <Assassin`> i should be able to see my devices
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> i do believe that AMD (ati's new owner) is going to open source them tho
[06:55] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI mentions some of that dri issues and its fix's
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> i read it somewhere...
[06:56] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  i hppe so
[06:56] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  but i will wait tilli see it actually happen.
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: http://enterpriselinuxlog.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/05/09/amd-will-deliver-open-graphics-drivers/
[06:57] <specialbuddy> !pastebin
[06:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:58] <hitmanWilly> once that happens, i may jump the nvidia ship...
[06:59] <specialbuddy> hitmanWilly, can you tell me what's going on here
[06:59] <specialbuddy> itm
[06:59] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  even when it does happen.. :) i will wait a few months befor trying ati again
[06:59] <Assassin`> nothing is working -_-
[06:59] <specialbuddy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21232/
[06:59] <Assassin`> im really mad
[07:00] <Assassin`> i keep getting directed to the same thing and nothing there is helpful lol
[07:00] <dr_willis> Assassin`,  clarify the exact problem i guess.
[07:01] <Assassin`> everything is installed
[07:01] <dr_willis> its possible you are just missing some little point.
[07:01] <Assassin`> ok
[07:01] <Assassin`> now when i type in the command glxinfo |grep direct it says that direct rendering is not enabled
[07:02] <Assassin`> meaning that my driver isn't enabled as the device ">.<"
[07:02] <Assassin`> i need to enable it :)
[07:02] <Assassin`> is their a place to look at your devices?
[07:02] <dr_willis> not sure how that logic follows.. from what i was just reading if you have certian options in the xorg.conf - dri will get disabled.
[07:03] <Assassin`> dri?
[07:03] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy: ya got me...
[07:03] <dr_willis> yes.. dri can get disabled - if you are using some optionsin the xorg.conf file. I just read it at that ati wiki page. :)
[07:03] <Assassin`> ?
[07:04] <dr_willis> at the url i mentioned.....
[07:04] <dr_willis> In Ubuntu Edgy the Composite extension is enabled by default, however, fglrx does not yet support Composite with DRI. To disable Composite you must edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, so add these lines at the end of xorg.conf:
[07:04] <dr_willis> not sure if FEISTY has the same issue or not.
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy: looks like its trying to connect using standard ethernet protocol vice wifi
[07:04] <Assassin`> i have feisty fawn  ">.<"
[07:05] <specialbuddy> ok
[07:05] <Assassin`> :)
[07:05] <specialbuddy> I think I might have found out the problem
[07:05] <specialbuddy> airmon-ng start eth1 11
[07:05] <dr_willis> Assassin`,  the site mentions feisty also.
[07:05] <Assassin`> i did it
[07:05] <dr_willis>     *
[07:05] <dr_willis>       ATI are well known not to be able to provide correct drivers for their hardware so you will have to deactivate the composite extension in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , otherwise you will get a jerky video display: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the following lines at the end of the file:
[07:05] <Assassin`> over and aver
[07:06] <dr_willis> Assassin`,  you did Restart the X server after edting that file?
[07:06] <dr_willis> not just logging out. but a alt-ctrl-backspace - kickit-in-the-head-restart-of-X :)
[07:06] <Assassin`> i don't know what your talking about
[07:06] <Assassin`> yea i did the restart :)
[07:07] <dr_willis> Assassin`,  you edit the xorg.conf file... made changees.. then you rebooted?or what?
[07:07] <Assassin`> xorg.conf file..........
[07:07] <Assassin`> no one told me about that
[07:07] <Assassin`> im trying to get help :(
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: did you use the restricted drivers manager?
[07:07] <Assassin`> yes
[07:08] <dr_willis> Assassin`,  all the information i am quoting is comming from --->  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:08] <Assassin`> where is the restricted drivers manager
[07:08] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: try following the 6.10 instructions, that does it by hand
[07:09] <Assassin`> where do i find the restricted drivers manager
[07:09] <dr_willis> i think when i tried to play a video - the system asked me if i wanted to enable the extra repositoris when it installed stuff. :)
[07:09] <Assassin`> or how do i open it in the terminal
[07:09] <dr_willis> !find restricted-manager
[07:09] <ubotu> Found: restricted-manager
[07:09] <dr_willis> !info restricted-manager
[07:09] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[07:09] <Assassin`> can't you just tell me
[07:09] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[07:09] <dr_willis> would be the command to install that package.
[07:10] <dr_willis> since the packaage name is 'restricted-manager'
[07:10] <Assassin`> restricted manager is already the newest version
[07:10] <Assassin`> but where is it
[07:10] <Assassin`> i knew that much
[07:11] <dr_willis> web site says -->  Open the restricted drivers manager included in 7.04 "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver". This will hopefully enable fglrx in a painless way. If not, follow the instructions for Edgy.
[07:11] <Assassin`> ok now we are getting somewhere
[07:11] <Assassin`> thank you so much
[07:11] <Assassin`> but...
[07:11] <dr_willis> It put an icon in the menus..
[07:11] <dr_willis> look for the icon.
[07:12] <dr_willis> if you got the drivers installed. and dri is not working.. from what i am reading. be sure you got the 'compoite' feature disabled.
[07:12] <Assassin`> there is no administration button
[07:12] <dr_willis> that may be the GNOME menu layout.
[07:12] <Assassin`> thats what ive been looking for
[07:12] <Assassin`> it is
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> that's gnome
[07:12] <Assassin`> im in the kde layout
[07:12] <dr_willis> im using icewm. :)
[07:13] <dr_willis> sudo restricted-manager
[07:13] <dr_willis> runs it forme.
[07:14] <Assassin`> Failed to open device
[07:14] <Assassin`> Must be run as root
[07:14] <Assassin`> ZOMFG
[07:14] <Assassin`> thank you
[07:14] <dr_willis> whats what  the sudo part of my command did.
[07:14] <Assassin`> sudo restricted-manager
[07:14] <Assassin`> finally
[07:15] <Assassin`> now its enabled
[07:15] <Assassin`> thank you
[07:15] <dr_willis> or ya could of searched the kde menus and found it. :)
[07:15] <Assassin`> it wasn't there
[07:15] <dr_willis> but it is an annoyance the way all the guides are ubuntu specific
[07:15] <Assassin`> i couldn't find it
[07:15] <Assassin`> exactly
[07:15] <dr_willis> of course I also install gnome and kde both.
[07:15] <Assassin`> thats why i couldn't get it
[07:15] <dr_willis> but i do belive i ran it right off on my kubuntu install.
[07:16] <dr_willis> i thhought it even had an iconin the systemtray by default for me. Not sure what added that.
[07:16] <Assassin`> well ima do a restart and hopefully its working :)
[07:16] <dr_willis> i also find it annoying how the howtos tell you the MENU order.. and not just the command.
[07:17] <dr_willis> well night all.
[07:17] <oldwest> Hi -  Is there a way in Kubuntu to do a desktop screen capture?
[07:18] <apberzerk> yes
[07:18] <apberzerk> there's an application, i think it's called kscreencapture
[07:18] <apberzerk> maybe there's a dash somewhere in the name
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> oldwest: ksnapshot iirc
[07:19] <apberzerk> ah yeah
[07:19] <Rictoo> configure: error: *** GTK+ >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[07:19] <Rictoo> How do I see what gtk version I have?
[07:19] <oldwest> hitman - will look in synaptics for it - thx much hitman
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> np
[07:20] <oldwest> i really like kubuntu trying to totally break the windoze chains....  ;o)
[07:21] <Assassin`> its working
[07:21] <Assassin`> O_O
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> :)
[07:21] <Assassin`> now beryl
[07:21] <kalorin`> chain chain chainz!
[07:21] <oldwest> getting there - work in progress - be back again sometime - thx again
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> its bad when a person feels like a prisoner to their OS
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> people don't use windows because they like it, they use it becuse they have to
[07:23] <oldwest> well if thats all you've know until someone turns you onto linux - you are stuck with what bill tells you....
[07:23] <Assassin`> now wher is the administration tab located in kde
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> M$ enforcement/marketing department...
[07:24] <Rictoo> WHat would be the package name for GTK 1.2?
[07:24] <oldwest> bye fer now
[07:24] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: kmenu -> system
[07:25] <Assassin`> its not there
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: what are you looking for?
[07:25] <Assassin`> to change themes ect
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: run kcontrol
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> or system settings
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: kcontrol has a few more options tho
[07:26] <Rictoo> GTK+ >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first
[07:27] <Rictoo> WHat's the package name for it?
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo: probably libgtk something or other
[07:27] <apberzerk> what's the exact make-kpkg command to rebuild only my modules and not my kernel image
[07:31] <Alonea> Ok, when we try to install kubuntu, it keeps saying buffer i/o errors. It does this after a long time of waiting after selecting start or install kubuntu. Says its on hda..hdd is fine though.
[07:31] <Alonea> and something about a squash fs error...
[07:31] <Alonea> drive is sata
[07:32] <Assassin`> !xgl
[07:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:32] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: kubuntu has xgl by default
[07:32] <Assassin`> O_O
[07:32] <Assassin`> ok
[07:32] <Assassin`> :)
[07:32] <Assassin`> thats grrreat
[07:33] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: if you want beryl all you ahve to do is install beryl and beryl-manager
[07:33] <Assassin`> oky dokey
[07:33] <Assassin`> sweet
[07:34] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: actually, ithink ubuntu comes with aiglx, not xgl, but it works too
[07:35] <Assassin`> not very good tho
[07:35] <Alonea> anyone know what buffer i/o errors are and why they would show up when trying to install?
[07:36] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: drive broken?
[07:37] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: no. WIndows just installed on it perfectly. its all brand new.
[07:37] <hitmanWilly> hmm, not setup fro raid or anything is it?
[07:38] <Alonea> dunno what raid even is. Its a sata hdd, amd dual core processor, nvidia 6 series video card. i gig of ram
[07:39] <Alonea> i think I saw something raid in the bios earlier. think it was disabled or something...
[07:41] <keypad> !bt878
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bt878 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: raid is a way to have multiple hdds act as a single unit
[07:42] <Alonea> ok. well, there is only one hdd
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: that error means it can't talk to the drive for some reason
[07:42] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ok. is there anything special you need to do for sata?
[07:43] <kalorin`> software raid and linux don't get along well
[07:43] <kalorin`> that much I've read
[07:43] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: not that i know of
[07:43] <kalorin`> cause it's not really a raid and requires some drivers that are generally under windows
[07:43] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: mine worked out of the box
[07:43] <Alonea> kalorin`: as far as I know, the raid thingie isn't on
[07:43] <Assassin`> beryl is crashing
[07:43] <Assassin`> O_o
[07:43] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: same for me too.
[07:43] <kalorin`> nighty
[07:44] <aCiD`tRiP> im having trouble with permissions on an external hard drive with NTFS, its all read only.... any suggestions?
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> Assassin`: try #ubuntu-effects, they're the beryl experts
[07:44] <Assassin`> ok
[07:44] <Assassin`> :)
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: anyway, you may have to twiddle with bios settings some
[07:45] <Alonea> ok, what type of things would i need to change
[07:45] <Assassin`> xgl is default right
[07:45] <Assassin`> !xgl
[07:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:46] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: take a look at the drive/controller settings and see if anything special is set
[07:47] <Alonea> just for the hdd? there is an access mode set to auto. other choice is large.
[07:47] <hitmanWilly> hmmm...
[07:48] <Alonea> also a thing labelled Extended IDE Drive set to auto or none
[07:48] <hitmanWilly> how are the drive jumpers set, or does it have any?
[07:48] <keypad> Can some one help me install tv time  ?
[07:49] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: or is this a lappy?
[07:49] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: what do you mean? Its a pc. he just built it from scratch
[07:49] <Alonea> JumperFree Configuration, thats a screen
[07:49] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: I really don't know a lot about hardware. software is more my thing.
[07:50] <KNate> soooooooooo, who is going to lend me a hand in my never ending trying to get sound working
[07:50] <Alonea> the drive is plugged into SATA 1, thats all I know
[07:50] <keypad> does any one know any software for tvcapture cards ?
[07:50] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: hardware problems are hard to diagnose remotely...
[07:51] <don> KNate, try switching sound card if you can
[07:51] <_6StringKng_> k, so I went upstairs, made some food, come back down to my room, Kubuntu is at ablack screen, I restart, now it wont boot into kubuntu, black screen, even in recovery mode
[07:51] <KNate> laptop, so no go:(
[07:52] <KNate> are there %100 working USB soundcards out there?
[07:52] <_6StringKng_> newegg.com, they have some usb one I think, by creative I think
[07:52] <don> oh
[07:52] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: it may be a compatiblity issue with the mobo or bios
[07:52] <KNate> do they work tho?
[07:52] <Alonea> ok, there is an IDE function setup screen with some options. OnChip IDE Channel0 and Channel1, IDE DMA transfer access, SATA Port 1,2 then SATA DMA transfer, then SATA port 3,4, then SATA2 DMA transfer, and IDE prefetch mode
[07:52] <_6StringKng_> you try a different driver?
[07:52] <don> some went that route
[07:53] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: would updating the bios help?
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: maybe...
[07:53] <don> then have usb trouble
[07:53] <KNate> i dont even know if i have the right driver
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: you might try googling it and see if anything pops up
[07:53] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: I guess we could try that. Know anything about that IDE function setup stuff?
[07:54] <don> I have been lucky it seems to have all my different sound dvrs
[07:54] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: isnt it a memory problem? try memtest86
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: in my experience you want to leave bios stuff set to auto unless you know that its causing problems
[07:54] <don> one is one size fits all
[07:54] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: buffer i/0 on hda? that should be hdd. I had it before, but never here
[07:55] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: bad blocks on HD?
[07:55] <keypad> What programs are out there for tv capture cards ?
[07:55] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: thats what it usually, is, but thats not the case here. reformatting the disk will fix that problem. not to mention windows would be seeing the same errors, which its not, and the disk is brand spanking new.
[07:55] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea:  not really...
[07:56] <aCiD`tRiP> what do i have to do to edit my files on an hard drive that has ntfs?
[07:56] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: get the tool from the hdd manufacter and run deep tests, those tools can recover your hdd if needed
[07:56] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: formatting it wont solve it
[07:57] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: at least when I had it last time on a few things, reformatting fixed it. hitmanWilly said something isn't reading disk right. I am almost POSITIVE the hdd is perfectly fine.
[07:57] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: can you get a livecd up and running?
[07:58] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: nope. It does this when I click on Start or Install Kubuntu on the live cd. We have yet to even get anything linux wise running
[07:58] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: i would suggest you to download a full-test tool from your hdd`s site manufactor, its always the best way to identify hdd problem and also solve them... its worth a try
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: can you boot the livecd into failsafe mode? ie cmd line only?
[07:59] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: I still doubt that there is anything wrong with the drive itself.
[07:59] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: just download a diagnostic tool and run a full test and make sure :)
[08:00] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: umm, I can get him to try here in a minute. He is trying to update bios...disk is being evil. Says its not for this version of windows
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> ugg
[08:00] <CVirus> !busybox
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about busybox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <CVirus> !busy box
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about busy box - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: so u run windows on the same HD?
[08:01] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: the version of windows I gave him is win pro mce, which is all I could get to install. regular win xp would not without a proper cd key.
[08:01] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: yeah. windows is on it and running just fine.
[08:02] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: well, for me, its definetly bad blocks ;P
[08:02] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: also the cmd line boot shows verbose boot messages so if anything weird pops up you'll be able to see it
[08:02] <Im_the_ONE> or maybe some incompatibility with your SATA controller and linux
[08:03] <hitmanWilly> that's what i would guess
[08:03] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ok. will try that in a minute.
[08:03] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: whats ur mobo chipset?
[08:03] <Alonea> mobo?
[08:03] <Assassin`> no one is awake in #ubuntu-effects
[08:03] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: mobo = motherboard
[08:03] <Assassin`> you guys say xgl is already on feisty fawn
[08:04] <hitmanWilly> Alonea: also, you may want to go to the motherboard manufacturers site and search for "linux"
[08:04] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: Asus M2N-PLus SLI
[08:04] <Im_the_ONE> Assassin`: no...
[08:05] <Im_the_ONE> Assassin`: have you tried allowing all apt-sources and apt-get install xserver-xgl
[08:05] <Im_the_ONE> ?
[08:06] <Assassin`> no
[08:06] <Assassin`> what should i do
[08:06] <Assassin`> im a linux noob so please try to bare with me :)
[08:07] <Im_the_ONE> Assassin`: system > administration > software sources (and allow all the repo)
[08:07] <Assassin`> i have no administration tab
[08:07] <Jucato> Im_the_ONE: that's only on GNOME
[08:08] <hitmanWilly> anyway, i need to get some sleep, see y'all
[08:08] <Jucato> Assassin`: aiglx is the one that's enabled by default since Feisty. not xgl
[08:08] <Im_the_ONE> Jucato: so how can he found the software sources options or it isnt available?
[08:08] <Assassin`> ok
[08:08] <Assassin`> how do i set up xgl
[08:08] <Assassin`> !xgl
[08:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:08] <Im_the_ONE> Assassin`: just download it on apt, do you know how?
[08:09] <Assassin`> sudo apt-get install "?"
[08:09] <Jucato> Im_the_ONE: from Adept Manager -> Adept menu -> Manage Repositories
[08:09] <Im_the_ONE> Assassin`: but as far as i remember you have to allow other repositories than defaults
[08:09] <Jucato> Assassin`: the #ubuntu-effects channel has some guides that can be found in the channel topic
[08:09] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: is there any problems with asus and linux?
[08:10] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: not with asus, maybe with newer chipsets
[08:10] <don> no or live cd would not work
[08:10] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: I honestly have no idea. I thought kubuntu would work right out of the box for him.
[08:10] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: what u gave me was your motherboard model, not chipset...
[08:10] <don> must be the sata
[08:10] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: the Socket thing?
[08:11] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: Socket  AM2?
[08:11] <don> ya go wit h a regular drive
[08:11] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: no, chipset, like nforce 4, nforce 590... whatever
[08:11] <Im_the_ONE> it can be ati, via, etc...
[08:12] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: nVidia nForce 500 SLI
[08:13] <KNate> i will give somone $50 if they can get my sound working
[08:15] <Im_the_ONE> Alone: it may be any incompatibility with your sata controller, or bad blocks, or... i dont know :P but as i told you before, i suggest that you download a diagnostic tool and run a full test to diagnostic any problem or even correct them
[08:16] <Lynoure> KNate: I don't do suppert normally, but lets see: What sound chip and what kind of "not working"?
[08:16] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: is it possible hda is referring to the dvd rom and NOT the hdd?
[08:16] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: i dont think so... :)
[08:17] <don> you using alsa drivers KNate?
[08:17] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: because his dvd rom is downright evil and is quite picky. its old. he hasn't bought a new one yet
[08:18] <KNate> hey, sorry im back
[08:18] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: when does it get an error? in the beggining of installation?
[08:18] <KNate> its intel-hda
[08:18] <KNate> i dont know if im using alsa drivers
[08:19] <don> KNate, alsa is a universal dvr
[08:19] <KNate> and by not workingi mean, kubuntu knows the sound card is there, files play in the apps, i just cant hear anything
[08:19] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: Ok, we select the start or install kubuntu on the list at boot, it says load kernels, shows splash with loading bar for like 5 minutes, and then goes black and starts doing buffer i/o type error stuff
[08:20] <don> check in adept and see if so install cant hirt
[08:20] <Lynoure> KNate: it seems you need newest alsa for that :/
[08:20] <KNate> whats the easiest way of install that
[08:20] <don> see if it is mute
[08:20] <Lynoure> KNate: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2725 has info on the bug
[08:20] <KNate> ive tried that, its not
[08:20] <don> you know adept
[08:20] <KNate> yeh
[08:21] <jonathan_> hi everyone
[08:21] <KNate> im not a total moron with linux, but i am new, i got beryl/wireless/ working, just sound is shitting me up the walll
[08:21] <don> in there are alsa sound dvrs follow directions yours should work though
[08:22] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: hey, you have only 1 sata as hard-drive?
[08:22] <KNate> well, googling, everyone with intel-hda has had no luck, and i cant access that site, it was a user/paa
[08:22] <KNate> *pass
[08:22] <don> I understand just tried to help
[08:23] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: it could be the CD-ROM driver (hda) but its strange if you can run the live-cd with no problems... maybe your cd is defective...
[08:23] <Lynoure> KNate: see http://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel
[08:23] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: I can't run the live cd though...I never get actually inside kubuntu. and I have tried my old disk as well, which I know that works
[08:23] <Lynoure> KNate: The walls must take a lot of cleaning then... =)
[08:24] <KNate> lol
[08:24] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: we are trying command line install right now and see how that goes
[08:24] <KNate> ok ill give that a try, hang on, and thanks
[08:24] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: oh, then it must be a cd-rom driver problem... the cd-driver works fine on windows?
[08:24] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: yeah, i was about to tell you to do that
[08:25] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: umm..mostly...kinda...sorta? it generally works, though it would not load the oblivion dvd earlier....
[08:25] <KNate> is this right
[08:25] <KNate> nate@natious:~$ modinfo soundcore
[08:25] <KNate> filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko
[08:25] <KNate> alias:          char-major-14-*
[08:25] <KNate> license:        GPL
[08:25] <KNate> author:         Alan Cox
[08:25] <KNate> description:    Core sound module
[08:25] <KNate> srcversion:     45750F13477CBA5B6F36F46
[08:25] <KNate> depends:
[08:25] <KNate> vermagic:       2.6.20-15-generic SMP mod_unload 586
[08:25] <KNate> nate@natious:~$
[08:25] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: cant u try another drive?
[08:26] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: don't have any more
[08:26] <Jucato> !pastebin | KNate
[08:26] <ubotu> KNate: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:26] <Lynoure> KNate: hard to say without seeing what version of alsa it is from
[08:26] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: sad :(
[08:26] <don> try it
[08:26] <Lynoure> KNate: If they say in the bug report the fix is in 2.6.20 kernel (did not check), possibly
[08:27] <crimsun> he needs a patch that was just made.
[08:27] <crimsun> apply http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/attachments/20070516/cfea9bb1/attachment.patch to current alsa-kernel hg
[08:28] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: what drives you have on the system? a cdrom and a sata hd?
[08:28] <don> KNate check out that patch
[08:29] <Alonea> yeah (well, dvd rom)
[08:29] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: your dvd is the only ide device on the system?
[08:29] <Lynoure> crimsun: I think it will take more handholding that that, I don't think he has patcthed anything in his life
[08:30] <Lynoure> crimsun: maybe not even compiled.
[08:30] <don> oh
[08:30] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: yes
[08:30] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: well, then hda is really your dvd-rom, and its probably your problem :P
[08:30] <Alonea> ok, Im_the_ONE, so far it is partitioning the drive on the command line setup.
[08:30] <KNate> which is the most recent ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver
[08:31] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: I will laugh if this works. at least I have done cmd setupos before and it does not scare me.
[08:31] <crimsun> KNate: no, follow the directions at the bottom of the download page linked from the ALSA home page.
[08:31] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: I always manually partition my drive anyway
[08:31] <KNate> hey bud, its me from this morning im back
[08:31] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: good. Its the best thing to do :)
[08:31] <crimsun> KNate: make sure build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), autoconf, automake1.7, libtool, and mercurial are installed.
[08:31] <crimsun> KNate: I'm going to sleep.
[08:31] <KNate> bahh, :(
[08:31] <KNate> stuip timezone
[08:32] <KNate> should i apt-get install those?
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[08:32] <don> check it out it probably will
[08:32] <Im_the_ONE> KNate: apt-get install module-assistant, then module-assistant prepare, and then module-assistant a-i (module name) maybe it will help
[08:32] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: heh. good ole command line.
[08:33] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: though he would be staring at it in hatred...at least I did the partitioning for him.
[08:33] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: graphical interface is always more susceptible to errors :P
[08:33] <Lynoure> Alonea: Much easier than going "then click there"
[08:33] <KNate> ok im downloading all those things now
[08:33] <Im_the_ONE> next-next-finish
[08:33] <don> good
[08:34] <don> you will get it
[08:34] <Im_the_ONE> are you sure? yes. next next next, are you sure? yes. finish
[08:34] <angeldarkholme> hi: could you please help me with this:
[08:34] <KNate> now after ive downloaded them, am i atempting that patch?
[08:34] <don> what?
[08:34] <angeldarkholme> I want to have writting permision in my /media/sda2 partition wich belongs to a ntfs file system.....with windows
[08:35] <angeldarkholme> how can I do that?
[08:35] <nodesert> hi. With kopete i can not sign in until i reconfigure the settings again.What can i do?
[08:35] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: ok. it keeps saying .deb files are corrupted on random things.
[08:35] <Im_the_ONE> angeldarkholme: as far as i know, its not possible, since u are not root in that system
[08:35] <angeldarkholme> but I use to have sabayon linux
[08:36] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: well, then its a  dvd driver problem
[08:36] <angeldarkholme> ( from gentoo )
[08:36] <angeldarkholme> and in that system
[08:36] <rob123abc> try ntfs-3g
[08:36] <angeldarkholme> I use to have writting permision
[08:36] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: ok. so, nothing you can do to fix it?
[08:36] <rob123abc> try apt-get ntfs-3g
[08:36] <angeldarkholme> I already have ntfs-3g in my system
[08:36] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: not really, but you can, buy a new driver :(
[08:36] <KNate> crimsun are you there
[08:37] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: new drive, or driver?
[08:37] <Im_the_ONE> sorry, drive
[08:37] <Im_the_ONE> lol
[08:37] <don> he went to sleep
[08:37] <KNate> and stays logged in? what time is it in the states asuming thats where most of you are
[08:37] <rob123abc>    mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda3 /mnt/windows -o
[08:38] <don> 2:40
[08:38] <don> am
[08:38] <Lynoure> KNate: I hardly ever log out.
[08:38] <rob123abc> you have to type the "-o" after the mountpoint
[08:38] <Lynoure> KNate: I just go /away
[08:38] <Im_the_ONE> to sleep is only for weak ppl
[08:38] <_6StringKng_> !ATI
[08:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:38] <Lynoure> Oh, I do sleep :)
[08:39] <Im_the_ONE> hehehe
[08:39] <Im_the_ONE> i dont, i only close my eyes :)
[08:39] <KNate> so which master is next to help me when all that crap downloads, i dont even know what im supposed to be doing, im not sure i have alsa drivers, or how to use this patch, and what is hg :( ohh the hummanity, why is linux so hard
[08:39] <Im_the_ONE> i drink too much coffee to be able to sleep :(
[08:39] <don> did you read directions at the bottom of that page he said,KNate?
[08:39] <nodesert> KNAte: yes it stays logged in untill i restart my laptop
[08:39] <Lynoure> KNate: I just closed all the related windows, assuming he would take over. But stop swearing, or you'll be in trouble
[08:40] <Im_the_ONE> KNate: because itsnt meant to be easy :P
[08:40] <Lynoure> KNate: someone will probably help you, as long as you don't swear yourself to get kicked before that.
[08:40] <Im_the_ONE> lol
[08:41] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: well, I have permission to take it to mutal friend and temporarily borrow drive until we can at least get some stuff installed.
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> !grub > Admiral_Chicago
[08:42] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: do that, at least you will eliminate one possibility if itsnt really the problem :P
[08:42] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: indeed. and in a couple months he can get a new one
[08:43] <flowingfire> In less than 10 days, it looks like Fedora is releasing a new version.  Does anybody know what the pros and cons are about Fedora as opposed to Ubuntu.  I'm very happy with Ubuntu, but a number of things are buggy... Would Fedora be better or worse?
[08:43] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: or you can try a minimal net-installer :)
[08:44] <flowingfire> Does Ubuntu tend to be a few steps ahead of Fedora?
[08:44] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: but you will need to burn it into a cd-rom
[08:44] <don> I just tried fedora, when it got updates it froze solid
[08:44] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: well, there is other things that are not installing, like oblivion in windows
[08:44] <keypad> can some one help me ? my tvtime is not displaying colour :(
[08:44] <flowingfire> don: Frozen solid? Like crashed?
[08:44] <don> Fedora did not impress me at all
[08:44] <Im_the_ONE> Alonea: yeah, it appears to be dvd driver problem at all :P
[08:45] <don> just froze could not do anything with it
[08:45] <Lynoure> KNate: What did you download? I'm not familiar with the module-assistant, just the old way, but maybe I can still help (however I only do low-stress fun support as I cannot take your 50 anyway)
[08:45] <flowingfire> Hmm . . . you'd think that the red-hat engineers could come up with something better.  lol
[08:45] <don> work ok till update but not very impressive
[08:46] <Alonea> Im_the_ONE: yeah, its the only thing that isn't brand new besides video card, which he is also borrowing, but its still nice
[08:46] <_6StringKng_> !ATI
[08:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:46] <_6StringKng_> !ntfs-3g
[08:46] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:46] <Assassin`> !beryl
[08:46] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:46] <flowingfire> Hmm... What are the plus-sides of Ubuntu? I like it but I don't know how to compare it on any real technical basis
[08:46] <KNate> ok its done downloaing
[08:46] <KNate> i dontknow what i downloaded
[08:46] <KNate> ill tell you
[08:47] <KNate> :~$ sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) autoconf automake1.7 libtool mercurial
[08:47] <KNate> how do i check if i have the alsa drivers so i can apply the patch
[08:47] <Im_the_ONE> KNate: apt-get install module-assistant
[08:48] <KNate> what is that program
[08:48] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: If you are going to walk him through I can go have breakfast.
[08:48] <Im_the_ONE> a module assistant
[08:48] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: don't forget sudo.
[08:48] <KNate> is it possible to make a recovery cd? like the windowz ones, so if anything screws up i can just load, and boom, back how it is
[08:49] <don> It is not like that,KNate just sound dvrs
[08:50] <KNate> ok, so whos ready to rock n roll and get my sound working lol
[08:50] <Lynoure> KNate: the problem is that particular sound chip does not work "how it was" in that version. Unlike to windows, most hardware companies do not supply Linux with drivers but volunteer make them themselves.
[08:51] <KNate> so new drivers+patch will make it do its thing?
[08:52] <KNate> my gf will be home soon, ready to rub it in that vista is better because it plays sound.. sigh
[08:52] <Im_the_ONE> KNate: usually :P
[08:52] <KNate> so what do i need todo first to install the latest alsa drivers
[08:52] <Im_the_ONE> im still waiting for a x-fi fatal1ty sound driver for lonux
[08:52] <Im_the_ONE> *linux
[08:53] <Im_the_ONE> vista sucks :X
[08:53] <don> ya, KNate you have sound on live cd?
[08:53] <pollyo> Im_the_ONE: Why not tell us what you think is good ...
[08:54] <KNate> i dont think so, i only used the live cd to isntall
[08:54] <Im_the_ONE> i preffer XP, or linux... vista sucks.
[08:54] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: But you are going to walk KNate through it, right?
[08:54] <don> If I didnt have sound on cd I would not have installed
[08:55] <don> I hope somebody does
[08:55] <Lynoure> I'd hate to go goof of if someone just drops the ball again..
[08:55] <Im_the_ONE> Lynoure: i can try, but im not an expert
[08:55] <Im_the_ONE> :P
[08:55] <don> try
[08:56] <KNate> :( this isnt going to bork my whole install? ive installed it many times after screwing it getting wireless and beryl working lol
[08:56] <Im_the_ONE> lol
[08:56] <Im_the_ONE> KNate: whats ur gpu?
[08:56] <KNate> 512 7900
[08:56] <Lynoure> KNate: no, not going to, only at most your sound, and that does not even work now
[08:56] <KNate> nvidia
[08:57] <Im_the_ONE> nice thing is to try to install beryl on a debian system, with a ATI graphic that can only run with proprietary drivers, its awesome!!!
[08:57] <Lynoure> KNate: the sound module only affects the sound, and in this case possibly the build in modem
[08:57] <KNate> well i dont use the built in modem, lol modem, i dont think anyone uses dial up anymore
[08:57] <Im_the_ONE> i use
[08:58] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: But you do know how to continue, right?
[08:58] <Im_the_ONE> it makes me a call when someone tries to break to my system
[08:58] <Lynoure> KNate: I know some people who travel a lot and they occasionally do.
[08:58] <KNate> i dont know where to go from here, AFAIK, im to install latests alsa drivers then use the new patch?
[08:59] <Lynoure> KNate: get the sources, apply patch, compile, install.
[08:59] <KNate> when im out on the road and i need internet, if im in the city, theres free wireless everywhere, other wise i use my phone
[08:59] <KNate> ok, you wanna lead me through it? pretty please
[09:00] <KNate> ill send you a jar of vegimite lol
[09:00] <Im_the_ONE> how does he apply a patch? like: ./ patch ?
[09:00] <Im_the_ONE> hehe
[09:00] <Lynoure> KNate: I'm desperately hoping someone who either likes doing support or can take your reward will walk you through it... I have not even had breakfast yet
[09:00] <KNate> get some breakfeast n come back lol
[09:01] <Pollywog> why can't I apt-get mythtv?  is it not in the repositories for Feisty?
[09:01] <Lynoure> KNate: did you fetch the patch yet: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/attachments/20070516/cfea9bb1/attachment.patch
[09:01] <Im_the_ONE> Pollywog: u have to allow the repositories
[09:02] <KNate> is it only 3.6kb?
[09:02] <Pollywog> I have multiverse and universe enabled
[09:02] <KNate> because i clicked download and thats all i got
[09:02] <Pollywog> or is mythtv in some non-standard one?
[09:02] <Lynoure> KNate: yes, patches are small, usually
[09:03] <Pollywog> !mythtv > pollywog
[09:03] <Im_the_ONE> Pollywog: allow the others too :)
[09:03] <KNate> ok patch is on desktop, whats next, install alsa drivers?
[09:03] <Pollywog> oh that's it, I am missing some
[09:03] <Pollywog> thanks
[09:05] <Lynoure> KNate: then you need the source... pity I do not know what version that patch was for. Looks a bit like the development version
[09:06] <KNate> 2.6 somthing arather
[09:06] <Lynoure> KNate: actually, you could also try on #ubuntu, as your problem is not kubuntu only and there is way more people there.
[09:07] <KNate> they all ignore you ther
[09:07] <Lynoure> KNate: or ever #alsa
[09:07] <KNate> oo, ill  try there
[09:07] <Pollywog> KNate: just don't go to #debian to ask ubuntu questions :)
[09:08] <Im_the_ONE> lol
[09:08] <Lynoure> Pollywog: actually, they could still help him with this.
[09:08] <Im_the_ONE> dont go to debian to make any question :)
[09:08] <Pollywog> don't even say anything that ends in buntu
[09:08] <Lynoure> They are similar enough.
[09:08] <Im_the_ONE> they dont even help you with debian questions lol
[09:08] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: has helped me.
[09:08] <Pollywog> yes they are but they don't like to answer ubuntu questions
[09:09] <Pollywog> it is even in the topic there I think "this is not #ubuntu"
[09:09] <MrBougo> hello!
[09:09] <MrBougo> how can i only see the packages from one source with adept?
[09:09] <Im_the_ONE> some help, some are just stupid :D
[09:10] <MrBougo> i want to see only the packages fron the kubuntu CD
[09:10] <Im_the_ONE> MrBougo: comment the lines on /etc/apt/sources.list and leave only the cd option
[09:11] <MrBougo> i'll try this, thank you! :)
[09:11] <Pollywog> okay what if I am missing most of what goes into a sources.list in Feisty?  I have forgotten where to get it
[09:12] <Pollywog> I know there is a way to get it I have forgotten it
[09:12] <Im_the_ONE> type "sources.list generator" on google
[09:12] <Pollywog> thanks
[09:13] <Jucato> !source-o-matic
[09:13] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:13] <Im_the_ONE> i miss the apt-setup tool :)
[09:14] <Lynoure> KNate: I messeged you with a summary, I hope it helps.
[09:14] <Im_the_ONE> Lynoure: how do i apply a patch?
[09:15] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: you? You have that problem too?
[09:15] <Im_the_ONE> Lynoure: no, just curious, never did that
[09:15] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: it's googlable :)
[09:15] <Im_the_ONE> :(
[09:15] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: the two obvious words, try it...
[09:15] <Im_the_ONE> thought it was easier than that :D
[09:16] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: it is, a oneliner. But it's good to learn to look things up...
[09:17] <Im_the_ONE> Lynoure: im not in the mood right now :P hehe
[09:17] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: I can never remember that is has < and not > anyway
[09:17] <Lynoure> I'm never in the right mood to google for grownups =)
[09:18] <Im_the_ONE> im a kinda lazy
[09:18] <Im_the_ONE> :(
[09:18] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: That's one of the reasons why I kinda quit doing support. That and namecalling, upsetness when things are not easy and "I did it my way and now it does not work and it is all your fault"
[09:20] <Im_the_ONE> I got it, but i think its nice to help, and the try is worth it
[09:20] <Im_the_ONE> maybe not professionaly :P
[09:21] <Pollywog> I have been using Linux for almost 10 yrs and I am still green
[09:21] <Im_the_ONE> Pollywog: then u never really used it :P
[09:21] <Pollywog> :)
[09:22] <Im_the_ONE> i like linux because i learn how to configure some services/servers
[09:22] <Im_the_ONE> otherwise i would never use it, lol
[09:23] <KNate> how do you cd to the desktop
[09:23] <Pollywog> when I started, Linux was very particular about who it would play with
[09:23] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: it's nice to help as long as it is nice, indeed.
[09:23] <Im_the_ONE> KNate: cd /home/*USER/Desktop
[09:24] <KNate> lynoire said he would only help me if i gave him $500
[09:24] <Im_the_ONE> Lynoure: if you know how to help, i dont think its a problem :P
[09:24] <Im_the_ONE> KNate: lol, give me a laptop and i learn a way how to help you :D
[09:24] <angeldarkholme> hi guys....any of you have ever used vmware to run an existing windows partition on a virtual machine?
[09:25] <Lynoure> KNate: I did not!
[09:25] <Lynoure> KNate: you evil liar :(
[09:25] <MrBougo> angeldarkholme, never
[09:25] <angeldarkholme> I have all the configuration files needed but i keep receiving the same error
[09:25] <Im_the_ONE> windows partition? format it!
[09:25] <Im_the_ONE> kidding :D
[09:25] <MrBougo> you should join some vmware channel instead :)
[09:25] <angeldarkholme> file not found: windows vmdk
[09:25] <Lynoure> KNate: I am not allowed to keep my own clients, my contract forbids it. So I can only do this for fun.
[09:26] <Im_the_ONE> Lynoure: even if its a charity? lol
[09:26] <angeldarkholme> I cant...unfortunatelly i need it to develop for windows CE
[09:26] <Lynoure> KNate: and right now, hungry, tired and wondering when I'll go to see my mother in the hospital, it is not fun
[09:26] <Pollywog> Lynoure: you work for a certain company in a certain Redmond?
[09:26] <Lynoure> KNate: I messaged you with summary, take it or leave it but do not go telling lies about me
[09:26] <Im_the_ONE> KNate: you couldnt load the module or what?
[09:27] <Lynoure> Pollywog: no, for a small company that is very focused on it's people and hoping the same from them.
[09:27] <Pollywog> oic
[09:27] <Im_the_ONE> i work on Apple
[09:27] <MrBougo> what does that kubuntu logo in the adept manager mean?
[09:28] <Im_the_ONE> that u are running kubuntu distro
[09:28] <Im_the_ONE> :D
[09:28] <MrBougo> am i? i didnt know!
[09:28] <MrBougo> seriously :p
[09:28] <MrBougo> on some lines next to the packet's name
[09:28] <MrBougo> there's a little kubuntu logo
[09:28] <Jucato> MrBougo: it indicates packages in the main and restricted repositories. the supported packages
[09:29] <Im_the_ONE> its kubuntus version? :)
[09:29] <MrBougo> oh ok :)
[09:29] <KNate> lol it was a joke man
[09:30] <MrBougo> KNate, i answered to Jucato's message :p
[09:30] <angeldarkholme> there's a lot of people in the vmware chanel....and everybody is sleeping
[09:30] <angeldarkholme> lol
[09:30] <MrBougo> not to Im_the_ONE's
[09:30] <Im_the_ONE> KNate: now he doesnt want to help you anymore :D
[09:30] <Lynoure> KNate: It's a joke that could get me fired if my boss was gullible. I have no longer any urge to help you, so good luck.
[09:30] <MrBougo> angeldarkholme, wake them up >:D
[09:31] <Im_the_ONE> Lynoure: is your boss a maniac?
[09:31] <Jucato> angeldarkholme: or wait for them to wake up... :)
[09:31] <don> Ya?
[09:31] <Jucato> hm... let's keep discussions here workplace-safe, ok?
[09:32] <Im_the_ONE> no porn stuff? :(
[09:32] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: no, but my contract excludes working in the field of IT for other people and I have 2 months of test period left. No, she is luckily not gullible, but I still do not value the joke.
[09:32] <angeldarkholme> im gonna sleep
[09:32] <angeldarkholme> have a nice night guys
[09:32] <Im_the_ONE> Lynoure: you need to relax. :D
[09:32] <Jucato> Im_the_ONE: specially that. none of those in here
[09:32] <MrBougo> angeldarkholme, like the guys on the vmware chan?
[09:33] <Jucato> angeldarkholme: and hope that when you wake up, they'll be awake too? :)
[09:33] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: I was done with this some minutes back already
[09:33] <Im_the_ONE> Jucato: just kidding, sorry for my humor :(
[09:33] <Pollywog> MrBougo: are you using VMware Workstation 6?
[09:33] <MrBougo> yup i am
[09:33] <angeldarkholme> it depends on your concept of "nice night" for me for example a nice night would be playing billiard in a good bar with my friends
[09:33] <angeldarkholme> lol
[09:34] <Pollywog> not the free version, the server, correct?
[09:34] <Pollywog> I am running Workstation 6
[09:34] <Pollywog> what seems to be the problem?
[09:34] <Im_the_ONE> nice night = doing nothing and doing everything you want
[09:34] <angeldarkholme> so you run vmware?
[09:34] <MrBougo> Workstation 6
[09:34] <MrBougo> not player
[09:34] <MrBougo> i do, on windows
[09:34] <MrBougo> not on linux
[09:34] <Pollywog> oh
[09:34] <Pollywog> then I do not know
[09:34] <angeldarkholme> mmm
[09:34] <angeldarkholme> anyway...maybe you can help me..
[09:34] <Pollywog> I run it on Linux
[09:35] <angeldarkholme> please..I don't understand
[09:35] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: the things I told KNate before the joke should be enough to get him through it, anyway :)
[09:35] <MrBougo> heh Pollywog i dont have any problem with vmware
[09:35] <angeldarkholme> why if i have all my configuration files and everything configured
[09:35] <Pollywog> k
[09:35] <MrBougo> angeldarkholme has, but i don't
[09:35] <angeldarkholme> when i try to turn the virtual machine on
[09:35] <angeldarkholme> it says.
[09:35] <Im_the_ONE> Lynoure: is your boss on the chan? lol :D
[09:35] <angeldarkholme> windows.vmdk not found
[09:35] <angeldarkholme> I can see windows.vmdk inside the directory!!!
[09:35] <Im_the_ONE> Lynoure: take it easy... :P
[09:36] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: why are you going on about this?
[09:36] <Im_the_ONE> Lynoure: ok, sorry :(
[09:36] <KNate> if i was linux savvy mabey, but i dont know whats going on :(
[09:36] <Pollywog> angeldarkholme: have you renamed any of the files in ~/vmware ?
[09:36] <angeldarkholme> no
[09:36] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: if you want to help him, I can message you with the same things.
[09:37] <Im_the_ONE> i would, if i knew how :P
[09:37] <Pollywog> angeldarkholme: you are running Workstation 6 on Feisty?
[09:37] <don> I would like to see him get his sound
[09:37] <Im_the_ONE> Lynoure: i was just kidding, but sorry anyway :)
[09:37] <angeldarkholme> yes
[09:38] <Pollywog> was it ever working?
[09:38] <KNate> how do you browse your hdd
[09:38] <KNate> as stupid as it sounds
[09:38] <ke> Uhm?
[09:38] <Lynoure> Im_the_ONE: messaged you anyway, in case you want to try. :)
[09:39] <angeldarkholme> i looks like it works...but it always asks for that file
[09:39] <angeldarkholme> i don't know why...
[09:39] <angeldarkholme> I have been stuck in the same problem for days
[09:39] <Pollywog> it is odd that it is asking for a file of that name if you did not rename anything
[09:39] <angeldarkholme> :S
[09:39] <ardchoille> KNate: ALT+F2, type in:  kfmclient exec /path    (where /path can be any path such as /home/username)
[09:39] <Lynoure> KNate: you can do that with Konqueror, just press the Home button
[09:39] <Pollywog> did you download a VM from someplace?
[09:39] <angeldarkholme> what happens if you rename something?
[09:40] <angeldarkholme> yes
[09:40] <sercik> !multimedia
[09:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[09:40] <Pollywog> try to open it with VMware player
[09:41] <Pollywog> I think the problem might be the version of VMware that created the VM is different from what you are using
[09:41] <angeldarkholme> but I already tried
[09:41] <KNate> so my hdd, is basicly home, where are all the /usr and other folders kept
[09:41] <angeldarkholme> i downloaded the files from here
[09:41] <angeldarkholme> http://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Windows_Instalation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html
[09:42] <Lynoure> KNate: no, but you can press Up button to get there, or edit location to /
[09:42] <Pollywog> I wonder if some file was renamed when you downloaded it
[09:42] <Lynoure> KNate: or just do  cd /   on the command line
[09:42] <ardchoille> KNate: Your hdd is the entire file system. The root of the system is "/". Your personal files are in /home/username
[09:43] <Pollywog> angeldarkholme: did you use Automatix?
[09:43] <Pollywog> angeldarkholme: stay away from Automatix
[09:43] <Im_the_ONE> i need to sleep :-(
[09:43] <KNate> oooooooh i get it how, so its like / is C;drive and /home/nate is /documents and settings
[09:44] <angeldarkholme> no...
[09:44] <angeldarkholme> i don't use i
[09:44] <angeldarkholme> it
[09:44] <Im_the_ONE> i hate to sleep
[09:44] <ardchoille> KNate: You can say that, yes
[09:44] <angeldarkholme> i saw that the log files
[09:44] <angeldarkholme> from vmware said this:
[09:44] <angeldarkholme> (The file specified is not a virtual disk)
[09:44] <angeldarkholme> for windows.vmdk
[09:44] <angeldarkholme> i know it's not a virtual disk
[09:45] <angeldarkholme> but...it is a configuration file..
[09:45] <angeldarkholme> how can I make it understand it?
[09:45] <Pollywog> angeldarkholme: so did you convert a Windows partition into a virtual machine?  I did not know you could do that
[09:45] <angeldarkholme> yes it is possible
[09:45] <angeldarkholme> you have to set up
[09:45] <angeldarkholme> the sectors of the disk that you are using in your windows partition and so on
[09:45] <angeldarkholme> it's interesting stuff
[09:46] <angeldarkholme> now everything is configured but i cant make it load
[09:46] <Pollywog> maybe there is a forum for that type of thing
[09:47] <Pollywog> I looked around there and did not find anything
[09:47] <angeldarkholme> yes...now im going to sleep.....
[09:47] <Pollywog> me too
[09:47] <angeldarkholme> it's sad to have to sleep
[09:47] <angeldarkholme> fucking body
[09:47] <angeldarkholme> lol
[09:47] <Pollywog> !ohmy
[09:47] <angeldarkholme> sleep is boring
[09:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:47] <angeldarkholme> :|
[09:48] <angeldarkholme> ok "#$"$ body
[09:48] <don> What is happening KNate?
[09:48] <bahr> This may sound stupid, but if I want to play with source code in KDE apps, and try to make patches etc., am I then forced to download the source code at each apps homepage name, or is the source code already on my system in some directory unknown to me?
[09:48] <angeldarkholme> :O nice question
[09:49] <angeldarkholme> i think you need to download the source code
[09:49] <Jucato> bahr: apt-get source <package_name> (no sudo)
[09:49] <Jucato> it will download the related source code for that package.
[09:49] <Im_the_ONE> to sleep is for weaks
[09:49] <bahr> Jucato: Thank you :) Where will it be stored?
[09:50] <Jucato> take note, though, that while a KDE app has a separate binary package, it might be part of a whole module when it comes to source code
[09:50] <Jucato> bahr: the current directory where you ran the command
[09:50] <bahr> Jucato: Oh ok, but well I want to begin helping and play around making patches, but I really don't know which programs to get to start playing around with the source code ...
[09:51] <Jucato> for example, say you want to download the source code for umbrello but umbrello's source code is part of the kdesdk module, so apt-get source umbrello will download the source code for the whole kdesdk module
[09:51] <Jucato> !packaging | bahr
[09:51] <ubotu> bahr: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[09:52] <bahr> Great thank you
[09:52] <Im_the_ONE> nice :)
[09:52] <Jucato> bahr: while patches are fine, submitting debdiffs for testing seems to be preferred. more info in #ubuntu-motu
[09:52] <Im_the_ONE> i love to program on C
[09:53] <bahr> Jucato: I have no experience with it at all, I'm just looking at some starting point, and was recommended yesterday to play around with small things first in apps that seem to annoy me
[09:53] <Jucato> most (maybe all) KDE apps use C++ though
[09:53] <bahr> So I just want the applications, so that I can do that, it will probably last some time before I make an official real patch :)
[09:53] <Jucato> good luck :)
[09:53] <bahr> thank you
[09:54] <bahr> lol
[09:58] <bahr> Hm I actually like Konqueror a lot more than my beloved Firefox :P
[10:00] <KNate> what is wrong here, why wont it copy
[10:00] <KNate> nate@natious:/usr/src/alsa$ cp /home/nate/downloads/alsa/alsa-*
[10:00] <KNate> cp: missing destination file operand after `/home/nate/downloads/alsa/alsa-*'
[10:00] <KNate> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[10:00] <KNate> nate@natious:/usr/src/alsa$
[10:00] <KNate> 
[10:00] <Jucato> like the error said, you are missing a destination file/directory
[10:01] <KNate> where tho
[10:01] <KNate> what should i type, im trying to copy the alsa driver to /usr/src/alsa
[10:02] <Jucato> the syntax is: cp <source> <destination>
[10:02] <Jucato> you only have the source part
[10:02] <KNate> and the file is in home/nate/downloads/alsa/alsagile
[10:02] <Jucato> since you are already in /usr/src/alsa, the <destination> would be . (dot, meaning "this"/current directory)
[10:02] <KNate> oh, so i missed the dot
[10:02] <Jucato> of course you will need to use sudo
[10:03] <Jucato> but I'm not sure if that's recommended
[10:03] <KNate> omg this shits me
[10:03] <KNate> why wont it just work
[10:04] <Jucato> let me guess, it's giving you "Permission denied"?
[10:05] <MrBougo> bye
[10:05] <Jucato> bye
[10:05] <MrBougo> have a nice day :)
[10:05] <MrBougo> part
[10:05] <MrBougo> oops
[10:05] <MrBougo> forgot the "/"
[10:07] <bahr> !mp3
[10:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:08] <epimeth> gmorning
[10:08] <Jucato> moin epimeth
[10:08] <ardchoille> Jucato: Nice post today :)
[10:09] <epimeth> post?
[10:09] <Jucato> heh thanks :)
[10:10] <Jucato> blog post
[10:10] <epimeth> where is this alleged blog?
[10:10] <_6StringKng_> could someone recommend some cool games for linux?
[10:10] <Jucato> on Planet Ubuntu
[10:10] <Jucato> !games | _6StringKng_
[10:10] <ubotu> _6StringKng_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[10:11] <bahr> I love bots :D
[10:18] <epimeth> heh... cute.  somehow I thought you were mid/south american, not philipino
[10:19] <Jucato> :P
[10:37] <guillermo> i question!
[10:37] <guillermo> Do i need an antivirus using kubuntu? is there any available?
[10:40] <alexandre> guillermo there is some aviables.. but... you don't need it... but if you want one.. in kde-apps.org should there be some of them...
[10:42] <K_user> !antivirus
[10:42] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[10:42] <Iwonder|too> klamav is cool
[10:43] <Iwonder|too> kde front end to clamav
[10:43] <Jucato> !virus | guillermo
[10:43] <ubotu> guillermo: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[10:43] <ahmed> hi
[10:43] <ion> im trying to run GNOME-RDP and its saying ERROR cannot access database
[10:44] <ion> how do I fix that
[10:46] <epimeth> does anybody have divx player working in firefox?
[10:50] <Iwonder|too> epimeth: mplayer won't play them?
[10:51] <epimeth> nope... telling me I need a plugin
[10:52] <epimeth> trying the mediaplayerconnectivity add-on
[10:52] <Iwonder|too> got a link?
[10:52] <Iwonder|too> i'll see if mine works,so far everything i've tried has
[10:52] <Cugel> I use that all the time, perfect extension.
[10:52] <epimeth> http://www.watchvids6.com/view.php?vid=1237299
[10:53] <Cugel> (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/446)
[10:53] <keypad> Can some one help me out with my tv capture card ?
[10:54] <guillermo> thet file about virus in linux was interesting
[10:54] <Iwonder|too> keypad: what card
[10:54] <keypad> Its a Play TV Pro
[10:54] <guillermo> what about logging in to my internetbank
[10:54] <Iwonder|too> guillermo: really makes windows suck more,eh?
[10:54] <guillermo> that is secure aswell i guess
[10:54] <epimeth> hrm... mplayer isn't playing divx I guess... maybe I'm missing the codec?
[10:55] <guillermo> i have been using kubuntu for 2 days, and i dont think i am going back to windiows
[10:55] <keypad> Iwonder|too: I was wraped when I found my tvcapture card that was not supported in vista worked in linux
[10:55] <Iwonder|too> guillermo: as secure as the encryption used
[10:55] <keypad> Iwonder|too: Its just that the composite in is black and white.
[10:56] <keypad> and thats my only use for that card.
[10:57] <keypad> it works but I get no colour out of any video mode I use
[10:57] <keypad> pal ntsc
[10:57] <Iwonder|too> epimeth: nope mine fails says use mplayer
[10:57] <keypad> I think I need PAL-B or something
[10:58] <hyper_ch> is there already a gutsy iso available?
[10:58] <alexandre> guillermo: Obviosly ;)
[10:58] <guillermo> then i have to go and pay some bills =)
[10:58] <alexandre> lol
[10:58] <Iwonder|too> keypad: what are you using to cature with?
[10:59] <keypad> Iwonder|too: TV Time
[10:59] <felix_> Hi, I want to access audio cds with konqueror on my freshly installed Kubuntu Feisty Fawn, but it says that I have insufficient rights. Can you tell me in which groups the user has to be?
[10:59] <henri_> hey, does somenone know how to tell power manager not to auto-suspend when ktorrent is running?
[10:59] <Iwonder|too> have you tried xine?
[10:59] <keypad> Iwonder|too: no
[10:59] <Iwonder|too> felix_: audio
[11:00] <felix_> wonder: I am in audio, this is the weird issue, and I can play them with amarok
[11:00] <keypad> Iwonder|too: trying now.
[11:00] <nodesert_> whenever i restart my computer i need to reconfigure my kopete.i think the problem is about kwallet
[11:00] <nodesert_> can somebody help me about this
[11:00] <Iwonder|too> keypad: xine-ui should have multi-format tuner support with a bunch of settings
[11:00] <felix_> wonder: but i can't rip the cds
[11:00] <K_user> guillermo : yeah (k)unbuntu is good :)
[11:01] <Iwonder|too> felix_: rip or copy?
[11:01] <Iwonder|too> mounting a audio cd is goofy,by nature linux won't
[11:01] <henri_> hey, does somenone know how to tell power manager not to auto-suspend when ktorrent is running?
[11:02] <Iwonder|too> henri_: temporary disable it?
[11:02] <Jucato> felix_: playing audio cd's and ripping them to mp3 or ogg are 2 different things
[11:02] <alexandre> K_user: Kubuntu is better than Ubuntu too XDD
[11:02] <Jucato> !ripping | felix_
[11:02] <ubotu> felix_: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[11:02] <felix_> wonder: well, I don't know the exact difference between rip and copy, I just want to have the tracks on my hdd. I do not understand why I can play them with amarok
[11:02] <Iwonder|too> or cron tab to check for a torrent pid and key click,like kaffeine does
[11:02] <felix_> ubotu: I know, but it says me I do not have the rights to do so
[11:02] <Jucato> felix_: ubotu is a bot
[11:03] <MrBougo> lol
[11:03] <felix_> I just learned that :)
[11:03] <Jucato> felix_: check the link that the bot gave. it has instructions
[11:03] <K_user> alexandre : I guess it depends on your pref - I use KDE (Kubuntu)
[11:03] <felix_> ok, I will checkt the link, thank you!
[11:03] <keypad> Iwonder|too: do you mean gxine ?
[11:04] <henri_> |wonder|too: yes, that works but it would be cool if it was automatic thing... :-)
[11:04] <Iwonder|too> should work,i use xine-ui
[11:04] <alexandre> K_user I know that.. but.. programs.. in KDE has not alternative... Amarok... vs Listen? such as example..xD
[11:04] <keypad> Iwonder|too: I cant find any video capture settings
[11:04] <epimeth> !codec
[11:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:05] <alexandre> talking about.. all things.. anyonw know.. when will CompComm go out?
[11:05] <Iwonder|too> keypad: it might not,wasn't thinking,i did xine-ui as source,it may be different than binary gxine
[11:05] <keypad> Iwonder|too: ok ill look through adept installer now.
[11:06] <epimeth> grrrr... didn't have w32codecs installed
[11:06] <epimeth> I'll bbl.. gonna go eat
[11:06] <Iwonder|too> apt-cache search xine
[11:06] <epimeth> let you know if that fixes it, too!
[11:06] <Iwonder|too> i have win32 codecs and it didn;t play
[11:07] <_6StringKng_> how do you cd to a folder with 2 words in the name?  can't remember how
[11:07] <_6StringKng_> what didn't play?
[11:07] <Iwonder|too> tab completion is best
[11:07] <bayer> i have a problem with apt-get - i'm trying to install the lates kde4, but i think it causes trouble because i had an older version of kde4 installed. now it complains "trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/solidfakenetbackend/fakenetworking.xml', which is also in package kde4libs-data"
[11:07] <keypad> Iwonder|too: Cant find it :(
[11:07] <Iwonder|too> a video online epimeth was trying
[11:07] <_6StringKng_> ah
[11:08] <_6StringKng_> anyone know the answer to ym question then...
[11:08] <_6StringKng_> my*
[11:08] <Iwonder|too> keypad:  it may not be there,as i sometimes use sources
[11:08] <Jucato> _6StringKng_: just start typing the first few letters of the folder name then press Tab
[11:08] <Jucato> _6StringKng_: it will autocomplete the name.
[11:08] <_6StringKng_> ah
[11:08] <Iwonder|too> _6StringKng_: tab complete it or \ for space
[11:08] <Jucato> or if you want, you can do: first\ second
[11:08] <Jucato> or "first second"
[11:09] <Iwonder|too> as in Program\ Files
[11:09] <Jucato> O.o
[11:09] <bayer> has anyone got an idea to solve that problem?
[11:10] <keypad> Iwonder|too: so im screwed : (
[11:10] <neutron> Hi
[11:10] <|Wiz|> Any tips for a good filemanager except Konq?
[11:10] <Iwonder|too> keypad:  probably not ,check the forum of all distros,i'm sure other have the issue
[11:11] <Lynoure> bayer: remove the old one first if it gives you trouble. You do have kde3 to fall back on anyway, right?
[11:11] <Jucato> |Wiz|: tried Krusader?
[11:11] <Iwonder|too> i thought kde4 was still alpha
[11:11] <Lynoure> Iwonder|too: it is
[11:11] <Jucato> |Wiz|: there's also Dolphin, but the KDE 3 version is so far behind the KDE 4 version
[11:11] <|Wiz|> Jucato: I can't seem to find the package for it even though it's supposed to be in the rep.
[11:11] <bayer> Lynoure, yes i have, but apt-get won't let me do anything as long as this problem exists. i even can't remove the conflicting package
[11:11] <pynsa> hi folks
[11:11] <Jucato> !info krusader | |Wiz|
[11:11] <ubotu> |wiz|: krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.80.0~beta1-1 (feisty), package size 2982 kB, installed size 8324 kB
[11:12] <Jucato> |Wiz|: make sure you have "universe" enabled in your repositories (should be enabled by default)
[11:12] <|Wiz|> Ah, thnx Jucato, I'll double check that it's enabled and I'll give Krusader a try
[11:13] <bayer> is there a way to get apt-get back into a consistent state?
[11:13] <pynsa> since the update to 7.04 i have a huge usb issue: when i boot my laptop with my usb mouse plugged in it wont work, i have to boot with no usb device plugged in and connect the mouse when the computer has finished booting.
[11:13] <nodesert_> i think there is something in kubuntu like gadgets in vista
[11:13] <nodesert_> what were they?
[11:13] <pynsa> superkaramba is like gadgets
[11:13] <Skrot-> SuperKaramba
[11:13] <bayer> nodesert_, i guess you mean compiz
[11:14] <pynsa> bayer: try apt-get -f install
[11:14] <|Wiz|> pynsa: hade you tried lsusb and see if it comes up there?
[11:14] <Jucato> !superkaramba | nodesert_
[11:14] <ubotu> nodesert_: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[11:14] <pynsa> |Wiz|: yes, lsusb shows nothing
[11:14] <pynsa> i mean no mouse
[11:14] <bayer> pynsa, this results in the error above
[11:15] <Lynoure> bayer: see http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Repairing_apt-get_database , add sudo where needed.
[11:15] <Lynoure> bayer: You are aware that KDE4 is recommended for developers only and far from being stable?
[11:16] <bayer> Lynoure, yes
[11:16] <|Wiz|> pynsa: There is no chance that you've changed something in BIOS so that's disabled there?
[11:16] <bayer> Lynoure, i just wanted to see how far they are
[11:16] <NiceGuyUK> Is it possible to navigate up and down the messages list in KMail using the cursor keys?
[11:16] <bayer> Lynoure, i know it's still alpha
[11:16] <keypad> Iwonder|too: is there any other alternatives  ?
[11:16] <Lynoure> bayer: there is a livecd for that, I think
[11:16] <Iwonder|too> xwatv
[11:16] <pynsa> |Wiz|: no, i changed nothing in the bios
[11:17] <Iwonder|too> but that source also
[11:17] <keypad> !xine
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <NiceGuyUK> !kmail
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <Lynoure> bayer: much safer way. http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/
[11:17] <NiceGuyUK> !kontact
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kontact - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <|Wiz|> pynsa: there is a bug reported @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/84762
[11:18] <bayer> Lynoure, i didn't think it would cause a problem during install, as is is announced on the kubuntu website
[11:20] <Lynoure> bayer: there is a reason why website says it is for developers only. :) Seen some people break their kde3 in the process.
[11:21] <bayer> Lynoure, great, the --force-overwrite did the trick!
[11:21] <MrBougo> bye
[11:22] <bayer> Lynoure, i'm not stupid.
[11:23] <NiceGuyUK> I am - I installed Vista on one of my machines
[11:23] <nodesert_> ubotu: i found ,it was gkrellm
[11:24] <Iwonder|too> gkrellm is sweet,plugins are nice and easy to configure,wish superkaramba was likewise
[11:25] <NiceGuyUK> yeah, hand-editing files and needing Python knowledge slows you down
[11:26] <NiceGuyUK> SuperKaramba is more eye-candy than gkrellm though
[11:26] <Iwonder|too> dunno gkrellm with tranparent skins is aweful pretty
[11:27] <NiceGuyUK> and without its pretty awful :P
[11:28] <NiceGuyUK> in fairness to the author(s) though, functionally its very good
[11:29] <Iwonder|too> yeah its ugly out of the box
[11:31] <NiceGuyUK> !rules
[11:31] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:32] <MementoMori> hi all
[11:32] <MementoMori> I cant get my wireless card working on a feisty
[11:33] <MementoMori> the card is a 88w8335 [Libertas] 
[11:33] <NiceGuyUK> !wireless
[11:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:33] <NiceGuyUK> wonder what chipset that uses
[11:33] <MementoMori> I'm trying to use this card with ndiswrapper and many different win driver
[11:34] <ompaul> manchicken_, I thought you were going to change your nick ;-)
[11:34] <blackdiamond_> hi guys..I have a problem with a disinstallation..could you help me..? last day i installed avast antivirus, but a lot of people suggest me not to use it..now i try to remove it but i can't..not in the konsole and not with adopt..what i have to do?
[11:34] <MementoMori> I used mrv8000 mrv8335 and netgear
[11:35] <NiceGuyUK> did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[11:35] <MementoMori> every driver loads well with ndiswrapper and I can see wlan name in knetworkmanager but I cant associate to the lan
[11:36] <bahr> Is there another pdf viewer for Kubuntu which can highlight text and make notes? It doesn't seem that kpdf is able to do that?
[11:36] <blackdiamond_> when i try to remove that pacake using konsole it said "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[11:36] <NiceGuyUK> bahr: Adobe do a linux version of their one if you don't mind running propietary software
[11:36] <MementoMori> NiceGuyUK: I'll try also this guide
[11:36] <MementoMori> thanks
[11:36] <NiceGuyUK> k
[11:37] <blackdiamond_> someone can gently help me?
[11:37] <bahr> NiceGuyUK: I would prefer not, but if that's the only one, then I guess I need to use it :/
[11:37] <NiceGuyUK> blackdiamond_: you may have another package manager open (adept, apt or something) - you can only use one at a time
[11:37] <Jucato> bahr: the next version of kpdf, named okular, will be able to do those things... but it's still for KDE 4...
[11:37] <NiceGuyUK> bahr: maybe evince (the gnome one) supports it?
[11:37] <Jucato> !adeptfix | blackdiamond_
[11:37] <ubotu> blackdiamond_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:38] <bahr> Ah how nice. Just another reason for looking forward to KDE4 realease
[11:38] <NiceGuyUK> bahr: I went for pragmatism over principles and just installed Adobe ;-)
[11:39] <blackdiamond_> yeah!!! now it works..thank you very very mich uboto!
[11:39] <blackdiamond_> your great!
[11:39] <NiceGuyUK> ubotu is an automated response, not a person ;)
[11:39] <blackdiamond_> are you jocking me?
[11:39] <blackdiamond_> really?
[11:39] <NiceGuyUK> yup
[11:40] <NiceGuyUK> !ubotu
[11:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:40] <blackdiamond_> ahah cool
[11:40] <NiceGuyUK> me too, takes me back to the days of writing eggdrop scripts in tcl :)
[11:41] <K_user> alexandre : was away from computer - Yep really I like it. Kubuntu package is very impressive!
[11:42] <NiceGuyUK> Is it possible to navigate up and down the messages list in KMail using the cursor keys?
[11:48] <zzsputnik> when i run DVB-T with Kaffeine it stalls really bad and there is no sound
[11:48] <NiceGuyUK> never mind, found it out now - uses left and right instead of up and down!
[11:50] <K_user> NiceGuyUK : Kmail - thanks I was waiting 4 that answer too :)
[11:50] <NiceGuyUK> K_user: yeah, I answer difficult questions, and ask easy ones ;)
[11:51] <MrBougo> :p
[11:54] <NiceGuyUK> !dvb
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <NiceGuyUK> !dvb-t
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvb-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <NiceGuyUK> me neither :(
[11:54] <_4strO> !codecs | zzsputnik
[11:54] <ubotu> zzsputnik: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:55] <MrDigimon> lemme guess, uboto is a bot?
[11:55] <NiceGuyUK> yup
[11:55] <MrDigimon> hard to figure out =P
[11:56] <don> ya but a cool bot
[11:56] <MrBougo> !hello
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <NiceGuyUK> !ubotu | MrDigimon
[11:56] <MrBougo> :(
[11:56] <ubotu> MrDigimon: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:57] <MrDigimon> all-knowing? about computers i guess but not all-knowing of anything outside that topic
[11:57] <chx> I installed Feisty but the installed system doesn't boot as it does not find the CF card I installed on -- builtin for laptop, worked absolutely fine w/ installer. It however finds a full speed USB device which is... not present.
[11:57] <felix_> I identified the problem on the audio cds: I have insufficient rights to read from an audiocd - even as root. I do not understand this
[11:58] <NiceGuyUK> chx: probably cos the bootloader hasn't got the necessary drivers for CF loaded.
[11:59] <nate__> helllooo
[12:01] <nate__> HELLLO OUT THERE
[12:03] <MrDigimon> echo: HELLLO OUT THERE.....OUT THERE.....THERE....E..
[12:03] <nate__> hey
[12:03] <NiceGuyUK> !trolls
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trolls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <hyper_ch> where is the "read receipt" option in kmail/kontact? I can't find it
[12:03] <nate__> !Assholes
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about assholes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <nate__> can somone help me build and install a pkg
[12:04] <MrDigimon> !bellends
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bellends - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <Jucato> don't play with the bot
[12:04] <MrDigimon> what sort of pack?
[12:04] <Jucato> !packaging | nate__
[12:04] <ubotu> nate__: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[12:04] <nate__> well im a freeking newb and suck, but
[12:05] <nate__> to get my sound working, some said i need to newsest alsa driver and to patch it, after about 3hrs i did it
[12:05] <nate__> and now thats where im at, someone else said i need to build it into a pkg so i can install it?
[12:05] <NiceGuyUK> hyper_ch: under Composing, something about automatic disposition notifications
[12:06] <kaukx> nate,./configure !
[12:06] <lerneaen_hydra> is there a known problem with the h264 opensource codec?
[12:06] <nate__> i just do that in the DIR, and it will make a pkg?
[12:07] <lerneaen_hydra> as in corrupt frames showing
[12:07] <hyper_ch> NiceGuyUK: ok, I found that... but where can I disable that I send my notifications out to others?
[12:07] <lerneaen_hydra> typically with a green (00FF00) overlay
[12:07] <NiceGuyUK> lerneaen_hydra: not that I know of. I use it all the time without problems
[12:07] <kaukx> forget to put smile,:Di dont get your problem,nate
[12:07] <NiceGuyUK> hyper_ch: doesn't it prompt you ?
[12:08] <nate__> ok i did that, it scrolled up like 50things now what
[12:08] <hyper_ch> NiceGuyUK: nope... it sends them
[12:08] <lerneaen_hydra> NiceGuyUK: hmm, funny. vlc manages to play it without issues but the system's codec can't
[12:08] <hyper_ch> NiceGuyUK: I had it set at one stage but I guess I've lost that setting somehow... and I can't find it anymore
[12:08] <K_user> !parental control
[12:09] <NiceGuyUK> lerneaen_hydra: I use it more for encoding that decoding to be honest (via ffmpeg)
[12:09] <MrDigimon> does anyone know how to konfigure my sound card?ive got one built in and one pci ive just added but the sound keeps switching from the built in to the pci and the pci to the built in
[12:09] <lerneaen_hydra> hmm ok
[12:10] <keypad> how do I run .sh files again  ?
[12:10] <hyper_ch> keypad: sh file.sh
[12:11] <hyper_ch> keypad: or if it is executable ./file.sh
[12:11] <keypad> I did both of those.
[12:11] <keypad> Its asking for a input file.
[12:12] <lerneaen_hydra> NiceGuyUK: which media player do you use?
[12:13] <keypad> got it.
[12:13] <hyper_ch> NiceGuyUK: I found it... it is deactivated... but whenever I read mail on the server (IMAP) it will send the notification.... hmmm...
[12:14] <ajus> no sound with gaim on feisty.... while other apps sounds well.. help please
[12:14] <NiceGuyUK> lerneaen_hydra: mostly vlc. my h264 encoding is targetted for my PSP though
[12:15] <lerneaen_hydra> NiceGuyUK: hmm, ok, it seems to be a kaffeine/xine related issue after some research
[12:15] <hyper_ch> btw, is it normal through vnc that if video is being played on the remote computer that only a blue screen appears in krdc?
[12:15] <NiceGuyUK> hyper_ch: yup
[12:16] <NiceGuyUK> hyper_ch: remote desktop apps seldom transmit low level video overlays
[12:16] <hyper_ch> NiceGuyUK: just wasn't sure if I installed all codecs on my mom's computer :)
[12:17] <Meglo_> I'm going to start a company for speeding ticket insurance. :|
[12:18] <ajus> my gaim has no sound... help pls
[12:20] <KillMe> bye..
[12:20] <KillMe> i'm off
[12:20] <KillMe> dead
[12:20] <KillMe> cruel world...
[12:20] <KillMe> bye
[12:21] <NiceGuyUK> !gaim
[12:21] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[12:21] <MrDigimon> which codec should i install so i can watch wmv with MPlayer?
[12:21] <NiceGuyUK> !codecs
[12:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:22] <NiceGuyUK> its in the restricted formats
[12:22] <NiceGuyUK> !codecbuddy
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codecbuddy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <NiceGuyUK> hmm
[12:23] <janne_> hello! I use mostly Opera as my browser but it is annoying that flash does not work with it... suggestions how to fix this?!?
[12:24] <keypad> can some one help me get my tv capture card working
[12:24] <keypad> I nstalled xine-ui
[12:24] <keypad> *installed.
[12:24] <MrBougo> bye
[12:26] <K_user> janne_ have u installed flash?
[12:27] <NiceGuyUK> !marillat
[12:27] <ubotu> marillat is a repository created for Debian. Please don't use it on Ubuntu. Consider using !seveas or !plf
[12:27] <NiceGuyUK> !plf
[12:27] <ubotu> The Penguin Liberation Front is dedicated to distributing software that cannot be included in Linux distributions for various reasons - See http://plf.zarb.org/ (not yet fully functioning) - See also !Medibuntu and !Seveas
[12:28] <NiceGuyUK> MrDigimon: check the above message from ubotu ;)
[12:28] <MrDigimon> Penguin Liberation Front :D
[12:28] <NiceGuyUK> plf and medibuntu repositories have the w32codecs package which should sort out wmv for you
[12:28] <MrDigimon> ive found a pack that i think will help me with the codecs
[12:29] <MrDigimon> at least i think so
[12:29] <K_user>  janne_  : have u installed flash?
[12:29] <MrDigimon> gstreamer ffmpeg video plugin
[12:29] <NiceGuyUK> !w32codecs
[12:29] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[12:30] <MrDigimon> checking it
[12:30] <noiesmo> !medibuntu
[12:30] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[12:31] <hatem_> hello every 1 :)
[12:32] <hatem_> this is ma first time i am using linux and i loved it :)
[12:32] <MrDigimon> try to get more ppl to use it =)
[12:32] <hatem_> actually i am working as microsoft MBS spec. but that's what i call os :D
[12:33] <hatem_> ya sure kubuntu is amazing lol :d i am gonna tell ma customers about it hehe :d and sure ma familly :d
[12:33] <NiceGuyUK> hatem_: I even got my mother and gf running Ubuntu now :-) Less time for me cleaning up their viruses and spyware ;)
[12:34] <hatem_> lol yah sure :) but i guess if there is advanced retail applications on dat would be more than amazing :D
[12:34] <MrDigimon> everyone her where i live is against linux, they all use windows only for the games (and get a bunch viruses too)
[12:35] <NiceGuyUK> who needs retail apps?  most of the time there is a free equivalent to do the same job
[12:35] <NiceGuyUK> and for games, I use a PS2 and a PSP :D
[12:35] <hatem_> the only thing  that make people buy windows at buissn. is the buissn. applications microsoft use
[12:35] <NiceGuyUK> such as ?
[12:35] <MrDigimon> im more of a nintendo fan but i have an PSP
[12:35] <NiceGuyUK> Pornstation Portable :->
[12:36] <NiceGuyUK> movies on the go
[12:36] <hatem_> something like retail mang/ system in the front and back as axapta
[12:36] <K_user> NiceGuyUK : I'm putting my bro on kubuntu - virus/spyware cleanup is annoying me too :(
[12:36] <hatem_> by the way guys microsoft just buy that applications lol microsoft got no application made by them :d
[12:36] <MrDigimon> i had to format all of our computers all the time
[12:36] <NiceGuyUK> K_user: there's a tshirt now that says "No I will not fix your computer - Use Linux!" :D
[12:36] <hatem_> rms, gp, ax, navition, all dat :d
[12:36] <MrDigimon> must buy that shirt :D
[12:37] <K_user> NiceGuyUK : I like it - where can u get them :)
[12:37] <NiceGuyUK> Tshirt : http://info.cafepress.com/cgi-bin10/DM/y/nbVR0Ku61z0MX40BRFO0ES
[12:38] <NiceGuyUK> browse aroudn to find more similar ones
[12:39] <MrDigimon> must send that site to every one i know, thx for telling us
[12:39] <NiceGuyUK> no probs
[12:40] <lbawinowns> What dog seriously have a t-shirt that says "I won't fix your computer again" :p?
[12:40] <NiceGuyUK> rofl
[12:40] <NiceGuyUK> good point
[12:40] <MrDigimon> i always fix my friends computers :)
[12:40] <lbawinowns> Hehe, nice site anyway, but I'm not that much of a linux fan :D /leaves/
[12:42] <MrDigimon> i have fixed my best friends comp 'bout 5 times
[12:42] <MrDigimon> it gets annoying after awhile :P
[12:43] <K_user> MrDigimon : twice is more than enough.
[12:43] <MrDigimon> lemme guess, noones intrested in that?
[12:43] <MrDigimon> yepp
[12:44] <K_user> MrDigimon : why do it - give then the option of linux.
[12:44] <K_user> MrDigimon : i assume the r using ms
[12:45] <K_user> they
[12:45] <MrDigimon> they dont want linux 'cause "We cant play any games on that"
[12:45] <nate__> oh i just cant get the sound working
[12:45] <nate__> im going to explode
[12:45] <K_user> MrDigimon : what games?
[12:45] <nate__> can you get different sound cards for laptops
[12:46] <K_user> MrDigimon : in any case why is that your prob?
[12:46] <MrDigimon> Sims 2, WoW and a bunch of games like that
[12:46] <K_user> MrDigimon: can they be played undr wine?
[12:47] <MementoMori> how can I force ndiswrapper kernel module to be loaded at startup?
[12:48] <MrDigimon> dont think so but u can play them if u install Windows with QEMU
[12:48] <MrDigimon> u can play WoW with wine
[12:49] <mad_goldfish> hmmm. Think I've managed to bork my konqueror :-( It won't start, and there's no errors if I run it from a shell, it just hangs. :-( was working a couple of hours ago until I played a video (I tried the embedded MPlayer and xine but neither worked, and then it crashed)
[12:50] <MrDigimon> tried to kill anything that uses konqueror with ps -ax ?
[12:50] <MrDigimon> or anything thats named konquror
[12:52] <mad_goldfish> Does logging out and back in count? I made sure there weren't any konqueror processes left after I logged back in, but it still won't load. Neither will kaffeine.
[12:53] <MrDigimon> tried to restart?
[12:54] <mad_goldfish> Restarted X. 2 secs, I'll try a full thing...
[12:57] <MrDigimon> *annoying silent*
[12:58] <dark_> 000
[12:59] <sercik> i have enabled transparency but i see nothing different
[12:59] <dark_> Remote Desktop Connection
[12:59] <sercik> is it necessary some program to have trasparent window??
[12:59] <clement> yep
[01:00] <sercik> hi clement: speqk with ne?
[01:00] <dark_> i want use Remote Desktop connect to windows2003 server the connection string is ip:3389?
[01:00] <chris_scummette> got some problemes with mp
[01:01] <chris_scummette> mp
[01:01] <chris_scummette> 3
[01:01] <chris_scummette> lol
[01:01] <sercik> scummette seems an italian word!
[01:01] <chris_scummette> lol
[01:02] <sercik> are you italian??
[01:02] <sercik> scummette = scommette = he bet, she bet
[01:02] <chris_scummette> nope french
[01:03] <sercik> chris_scummette: what do you need about mp3?
[01:04] <chris_scummette> ha ok
[01:04] <chris_scummette> scum = bad guy in english
[01:04] <chris_scummette> sercik
[01:04] <chris_scummette> ma amarok refuses to play them and i cant even install the mp 3support
[01:04] <sercik> do you have dapper or edgy??
[01:04] <chris_scummette> my adept dont run too!
[01:05] <chris_scummette> feisty , you lose!
[01:05] <chris_scummette> lol
[01:05] <SlimeyPete> adept sucks... use synaptic ;)
[01:05] <chris_scummette> cant even load it
[01:06] <SlimeyPete> you can't load synaptic?
[01:06] <MrDigimon> or u could use  aptitude
[01:06] <chris_scummette> aptitude says adept is alrready running
[01:06] <chris_scummette> but i ran nothing
[01:06] <SlimeyPete> "killall -9 adept", then try again ;)
[01:07] <chris_scummette> no process killed
[01:07] <chris_scummette> im new to linux thats maybe why i getting troubles
[01:07] <SlimeyPete> there's a lock file somewhere. (maybe in /var/lock/apt? I can't remember) which you might have to remove
[01:08] <chris_scummette> im also getting trouble to lgin as a root
[01:08] <chris_scummette> guess im a total noob
[01:08] <chris_scummette> but i still managed to install that USB modem
[01:08] <sercik> chris_scummette: ubuntu doesn't have a root account
[01:08] <chris_scummette> su
[01:08] <MrDigimon> use the su
[01:08] <sercik> if you want to run root command you need to use the command sudo!!
[01:08] <sercik> no
[01:09] <chris_scummette> okay
[01:09] <MrDigimon> sudo su
[01:09] <chris_scummette> ;)
[01:09] <sercik> su don't work
[01:09] <MrDigimon> sudo su
[01:09] <sercik> MrDigimon: wait a minute
[01:09] <MrDigimon> ?
[01:09] <chris_scummette> HAAAAAAAAAA!
[01:09] <chris_scummette> al(ight
[01:09] <chris_scummette> now imlogged!
[01:09] <sercik> when you launch adept he asks for a password you need to enter user password
[01:09] <sercik> the password with which you login
[01:10] <MrDigimon> took me a week to figure the sudo su out
[01:10] <chris_scummette> yes
[01:10] <sercik> if you want to be root
[01:10] <AaronCN> where can I config auto-join channel?
[01:10] <chris_scummette> but it says its alrezady running
[01:10] <sercik> you can do sudo -i
[01:11] <chris_scummette> AaronCN: that good old IRC commands
[01:11] <chris_scummette> ;)
[01:11] <sercik> chris_scummette: now we try another approach! what do you need to do??
[01:11] <jlarsson> can anyone help me in kubuntu 6.06 to get dual nbotscrens beetwen windows and kubuntu, PM ME
[01:11] <chris_scummette> i need to play mp3 with amarok
[01:11] <chris_scummette> and it dont want to install the support
[01:11] <MrDigimon> dont u get amarok working?
[01:11] <sercik> and why do you speak about adept??
[01:11] <chris_scummette> and my adept refuses to reinstall amaraok
[01:12] <chris_scummette> adept installer
[01:12] <chris_scummette> manager
[01:12] <chris_scummette> sorry
[01:12] <sercik> !multimedia > chris_scummette
[01:12] <sercik> !multimedia
[01:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:12] <sercik> jlarsson: have you installed windows before kubuntu??
[01:13] <jlarsson> yep
[01:13] <AaronCN> chris_scummette: I also wish auto-join would be a command. :) Konversation is quite good, need to spend some time to make some configuration. :)
[01:13] <sercik> windows overwrite mbr
[01:13] <sercik> which windows do you have?
[01:13] <sercik> xp?
[01:14] <chris_scummette> !register
[01:14] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:14] <yanntech> hi ;)
[01:15] <sercik> jlarsson: search on internet on how to start linux using wondows xp boot manager
[01:16] <chris_scummette> now i got the files to install
[01:16] <chris_scummette> what command should i write in the terminal?
[01:17] <dark_> i can't connect windows 3389 port why?
[01:17] <sercik> dark_: this is a windows problem
[01:18] <dark_> but i can connect from my windows xp
[01:21] <MrDigimon> does it exist any linux version of autoit v3 (write windows scripts in linux)
[01:25] <MrDigimon> !autoit
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autoit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <MrDigimon> guess not
[01:27] <jlarsson> Can someone help me again to get a bootscreen in kubuntu betwen kubuntu and linux ?
[01:28] <jlarsson> kubuntu and windows i mean *!
[01:29] <tapas> hmm, is the kde4 beta avaiable in kubuntu?
[01:29] <SlimeyPete> I didn't think there was one, yet? I thought it was still in alpha. In which case, I doubt it's available.
[01:29] <jlarsson> HELP ?!
[01:30] <SlimeyPete> you mean the boot menu?
[01:30] <SlimeyPete> you need to get into Linux and use grub-install
[01:30] <jlarsson> I-n-e-e-d h-e-l-p
[01:30] <seishinbyou> Good evening
[01:30] <SlimeyPete> jlarsson: I just gave you help.
[01:30] <seishinbyou> by boot screen do you mean splash screen
[01:31] <seishinbyou> i.e. that grub-background thing
[01:31] <jlarsson> how do i use grub install
[01:31] <SlimeyPete> jlarsson: oyu need to get into Linux using a recovery CD, then configure your GRUB files and run grub-install against your hard disk.
[01:32] <SlimeyPete> I have to go to lunch now - if you google for tutorials on configuring GRUB, you should find a few that will help.
[01:32] <jlarsson> install it over again `
[01:32] <jlarsson> ?
[01:32] <jlarsson> i put me orifinal kubuntu cd in the cd driver ? and then what?
[01:35] <chris_scummette> why are my downloads "stalled" in k torrent
[01:35] <jlarsson> zxcgas
[01:35] <jlarsson> f
[01:35] <jlarsson> as
[01:35] <guillermo> hi
[01:35] <guillermo> i need some help
[01:36] <guillermo> "the utility unrar is not in yuor path"
[01:36] <guillermo> it cames up when I try to unpack a .rar file i just downloadaded (last episode of lost)
[01:43] <AaronCN> chris_scummette: that's also my question. :(
[01:44] <sercik> guillermo: is simple you don't have unrar installed or the executable is not in PATH
[01:46] <mad_goldfis1> Ah, cool. Works now, much better, thanks :-) Somehow that even fixed the annoying behaviour the kaffeine got infected with, trying to populate its playlist with my entire filesystem on startup.
[01:47] <hoang> does someone know such program has the same functions as Total Commander?
[01:47] <FOAD> hoang: krusader
[01:47] <sercik> midnight commander
[01:47] <guillermo> the utility unrar is not in your PATH what to do?
[01:47] <sercik> guillermo: do you know that is path??
[01:48] <user_590> hi all
[01:48] <guillermo> no the wildest idea
[01:48] <sercik> PATH is a variable that contain a list of path in which to search for a program
[01:49] <hoang> sorry, I'm a noob in OSS world
[01:49] <sercik> for example if you have an executable in PATH you can simply give the name
[01:49] <sercik> or if not you need to change directory in which the executable is
[01:49] <sercik> and then execute it
[01:50] <tangervu> Hi!
[01:50] <sercik> or you can do the full path for example /usr/local/bin/programname
[01:50] <sercik> but i think that you have not installed unrar
[01:50] <guillermo> but i dont even know where unrar is?
[01:50] <guillermo> i did isntall via adept now and ark opened the file
[01:50] <tangervu> Just asking that is there some problems with the current apache2.2-common package?
[01:50] <sercik> if you want to find a file you can use the command find -iname nomefile
[01:51] <sercik> it will search in all subdirectories so you need to run that command from / directory to be sure that all hd be scanned
[01:51] <sercik> i go to lunch i will return
[01:51] <tangervu> I tried to do complete reinstallation of apache but for some reason it doesn't install all the needed files into  /etc/apache2
[01:52] <tangervu> For example /etc/apache2/mods-available is completely empty and the apache2.conf -file is missing too
[01:52] <user_590> "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device" - what is it ? (((
[01:53] <tangervu> 7.04 is the version for kubuntu...
[01:53] <user_590> people :)
[01:55] <mad> ciao
[01:59] <wsjunior> hi fellows! after hibernating my laptop screen doesnt come back. is it a know problem?
[02:03] <NiceGuyUK> !laptops
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laptops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <NiceGuyUK> !laptop
[02:03] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[02:03] <NiceGuyUK> !hibernate
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <NiceGuyUK> !hibernating
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernating - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <NiceGuyUK> oh well, worth a try
[02:03] <tangervu> !apache2
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <tangervu> !apache
[02:03] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:05] <guillermo> what is the command to see your hardware?
[02:06] <NiceGuyUK> depends what you want to see
[02:06] <guillermo> what graphic card i got
[02:06] <tangervu> !fcgi
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fcgi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <NiceGuyUK> try lspci
[02:06] <sercik> Hi NiceGuyUK, also if i prefer girl....
[02:07] <sercik> guillermo: do you need help? Have you solved your problem?
[02:07] <NiceGuyUK> heh, I been using that nick on IRC for about 8 years - too lazy to change it
[02:08] <sercik> yes but seems strange to me call a guy "nice"
[02:08] <MrDigimon> does anyone know how to konfigure mplayer so the new codecs work?
[02:08] <NiceGuyUK> well, I'm not nasty, so I gotta be nice.
[02:09] <sercik> do you want to play proprietary formats??
[02:09] <sercik> probably you need to install w32codecs
[02:09] <MrDigimon> i have the codecs but how do i configure it?
[02:09] <sercik> launch mplayer for a console so you can see errors messages
[02:10] <sercik> it is not necessary to configure
[02:10] <sercik> mplayer search in a specific folder in which w32codecs are...
[02:10] <Jucato> MrDigimon: no need to configure. once installed, codecs should work automatically. what media format are you trying to play?
[02:11] <sercik> hi Jucato
[02:11] <sercik> how do you do?
[02:11] <Jucato> hi sercik
[02:11] <Jucato> um... sick actually. but otherwise ok :)
[02:11] <sercik> sorry!
[02:11] <MrDigimon> Im trying to play wmv
[02:12] <sercik> MrDigimon: launch mplayer from a konsole the try to plat wmv
[02:12] <Jucato> sercik: no worries :)
[02:12] <sercik> MrDigimon: you can also try vlc program
[02:12] <sercik> sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin*
[02:13] <Jucato> MrDigimon: you have w32codecs installed right? how are you trying to play it?
[02:13] <MrDigimon> right-klicking/open with/mplayer
[02:14] <Jucato> ah...
[02:14] <Jucato> try playing it in amarok or kaffeine?
[02:14] <sercik> MrDigimon: i have told you to launch mplayer from konsole
[02:14] <sercik> the try to play that file
[02:14] <MrDigimon> ok, will try
[02:14] <sercik> so you can see output messages
[02:15] <sercik> Jucato: do you rhink that amarok support wmv??
[02:15] <Jucato> of course :)
[02:15] <Jucato> with the right codec (w32codecs)
[02:15] <sercik> and he uses xine??
[02:15] <sercik> it uses xine??
[02:15] <Jucato> amarok and kaffeine use xine by default on Kubuntu
[02:15] <Jucato> actually, amarok can only use xine for the time being
[02:15] <sercik> i know about keffeine bun not about amarok
[02:16] <Jucato> easy to check. Configure Amarok ->Engines :)
[02:16] <sercik> yes i have already seen :)
[02:16] <Jucato> there was a time when Amarok could use gstreamer also. but kinda changed
[02:16] <sercik> you are right!!!
[02:16] <MrDigimon> it works from konsole but the colours ar a bit crapy
[02:16] <sercik> MrDigimon: launch gmplayer from konsole
[02:17] <FOAD> Since yesterday, whenever I boot into kde, after a few minutes almost all applications segfault when I try to start them.  The same does not happen with gnome, so I think it's not a hardware problem.  Any ideas what could cause this?  (Right after booting I can run everything fine.)
[02:17] <cinzuto> salve a tutti
[02:17] <Jucato> gmplayer?
[02:17] <cinzuto> posso chiedere un aiuto?
[02:18] <sercik> gmplayer is the right executable mplayer is a text program
[02:18] <MrDigimon> the same thing as before: crappy colours and fullscreen
[02:18] <p-casso> cinzuto: do you speak english?
[02:18] <sercik> cinzuto qui parlano solo inglese ;=
[02:18] <sercik> :)
[02:18] <p-casso> cinzuto: my italian is not the best...erm it's null :)
[02:18] <cinzuto> sercik allora posso parlare con te
[02:18] <Jucato> !it | cinzuto
[02:18] <ubotu> cinzuto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:18] <cinzuto> ?
[02:18] <sercik> can cinzuto speak in italin with me??
[02:19] <sercik> cinzuto parla se qualcuno si lamenta ci spostiamo
[02:19] <cinzuto> ok
[02:19] <sercik> anzi parliamo in privato
[02:21] <manu__> hi
[02:21] <manu__> i wanted to know the hardware which is minimum for kubuntu to run it with an acceptable speed
[02:22] <manu__> does it run on a 430mhz cpu or an 600mhz?
[02:22] <manu__> main aim is office work
[02:25] <FOAD> More specifically, it appears that it's exclusively gnome apps that start segfaulting.
[02:25] <FOAD> But again, not straightaway, it takes a few minutes.
[02:25] <p-casso> manu__: look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(Linux_distribution)#System_requirements
[02:25] <snikker> can i choose what packages i can install, with "debootstrap" command?
[02:26] <p-casso> manu__: it claims 256 MB RAM are enough
[02:27] <MrDigimon> whoa, i tried a different movie and the whole shit froze (had to restart X)
[02:27] <Jucato> manu__: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php Scroll down to "Requirements"
[02:27] <p-casso> Hi everyone, I have a smal question/problem on a xorg dual screen setup. Is there anyone available who could help me with this?
[02:29] <sercik> MrDigimon: i don't know what tell.. you can try another software "vlc"
[02:29] <manu__> Jucato: hm and about the cpu? there is only ram mentioned, i nat to have an acceptable speed
[02:29] <MrDigimon> ok, heard of it....
[02:29] <Jucato> MrDigimon: um.. are you on a 32-bit or 64-bit system?
[02:29] <manu__> 430mhz?
[02:30] <Jucato> hm.. not really sure
[02:30] <EdijusLive> Can I use WinModem with Kubuntu? Can I see windows files with this OS?
[02:30] <MrDigimon> no idea jucato
[02:30] <MrDigimon> dont remember
[02:30] <Jucato> MrDigimon: what's your processor? AMD64 or something?
[02:30] <NiceGuyUK> MrDigimon: do uname -a to check :-)
[02:30] <Jucato> because the w32codecs don't work on 64-bit systems...
[02:30] <MrDigimon> pentium 3 650mhz
[02:30] <p-casso> EdijusLive: Windows Files shouldn't be the problem
[02:30] <Jucato> ah no biggie then
[02:31] <p-casso> EdijusLive: but you cannot write on NTFS
[02:31] <Jucato> !modem | EdijusLive
[02:31] <ubotu> EdijusLive: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[02:31] <EdijusLive> p-casso, why I can't?
[02:31] <NiceGuyUK> p-casso: you can if you use ntfs-3g :)
[02:31] <NiceGuyUK> !ntfs
[02:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:32] <NiceGuyUK> !ntfs-3g
[02:32] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:32] <p-casso> EdijusLive: As far as I know the vendor of Windows does not want this
[02:33] <p-casso> NiceGuyUK: is that thing stable?
[02:33] <p-casso> cool, didn't know that
[02:33] <MrDigimon> but if u are able of playing avi, mov shouldnt u be able to play wmv?
[02:34] <NiceGuyUK> p-casso: stable enough to get in the repositories now :)
[02:34] <SlimeyPete> MrDigimon: eh? They're totally different.
[02:34] <Jucato> MrDigimon: no. different codecs :)
[02:34] <p-casso> NiceGuyUK: the only thing I knew was this capture-ntfs thing
[02:34] <NiceGuyUK> MrDigimon: wmv definitely works under vlc with codecs installed - its what I use
[02:35] <MrDigimon> just wondering, dads comp could play anything directly from the beginning
[02:35] <NiceGuyUK> p-casso: kubuntu helps you learn new things daily :)
[02:35] <Jucato> p-casso: ntfs-3g has released a stable version (1.0). and of course, MS doesn't want you doing this, so it's a reverse engineering kind of thing I think
[02:35] <MrDigimon> he had some sort of debian and installed kde later while i had kubuntu
[02:36] <p-casso> NiceGuyUK: I know, I know. Switched to kubuntu a few weeks ago, coming from debian. Great thing...really
[02:36] <EdijusLive> What is Kubuntu intsllation requiments?
[02:37] <p-casso> I have a litte question about an dual screen setup, though. Is there anybody who can help me with? I had not much luck searching the forums
[02:37] <NiceGuyUK> !xinerama
[02:37] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[02:37] <NiceGuyUK> that help?
[02:37] <MrDigimon> i just tried vlc i can hear the sound but nothing else
[02:38] <p-casso> NiceGuyUK: thanks, I got the setup working in a night of hacking. radeon driver, MergedFB. The only problem I have: I don't want to restart X when I take the laptop with me. Is there any possibility?
[02:39] <p-casso> NiceGuyUK: I have also a xinerama setup, which worked but without dri. That led me to the mergedFB option of my radeon card
[02:39] <p-casso> !DualHead
[02:39] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[02:39] <NiceGuyUK> p-casso: not sure, I don't have that setup, but sounds unlikely, since you're changing the hardware X is expecting
[02:40] <p-casso> I expected this *sigh*
[02:40] <NiceGuyUK> why is restarting X a problem? it only takes a few secs
[02:41] <p-casso> Well, the apps have to load. That takes time. firefox, Eterm, kmail, konqueror
[02:42] <MrDigimon> didnt they rename firefox to iceweasel?
[02:42] <NiceGuyUK> ah, I see
[02:42] <p-casso> I have to move the kicker to screen 1 also manually
[02:42] <NiceGuyUK> MrDigimon: only in Debian
[02:42] <MrDigimon> ok
[02:42] <NiceGuyUK> MrDigimon: cos Debian made changes that Mozilla Foundation didn't like and refused to let them call it FireFox
[02:42] <NiceGuyUK> silly politics again
[02:42] <MrDigimon> of course
[02:43] <MrDigimon> but its still the same :D
[02:46] <MrDigimon> what did they change whit firefox when they had to get another name?
[02:46] <NiceGuyUK> not sure, thats a job for Google ;)
[02:47] <bahr> Am I the only one having trouble to access Gmail with Konqueror?
[02:47] <MrDigimon> but Linux is always gonna be better than windows (at least for me)
[02:48] <HymnToLife> depends which Linux
[02:48] <MrDigimon> thay are nearly the same all of them, its only different things that are installed
[02:48] <AFaith> bahr: i can open Gmail with Konqueror, but i cannot acces all those good features, because Konqueror it's not a supported browser :)
[02:48] <AFaith> btw, hello people :)
[02:49] <robert_l> g'day all
[02:49] <HymnToLife> MrDigimon, how many of them did you try out to say that ?
[02:49] <MrDigimon> tried knoppix, (K)ubuntu, Debian and some that i dont remember
[02:50] <HymnToLife> you try Slackware and tell me if it's "nearlt the same" :p
[02:50] <MrDigimon> hmm, maybe i must think about if they are all the same =P
[02:51] <MrDigimon> they have their own style but they are all from the same from the beginning
[02:51] <NiceGuyUK> Linux is the same - its the bundled apps and environment that differ.
[02:51] <NiceGuyUK> One kernel to rule them all!
[02:52] <NiceGuyUK> Distro != Linux
[02:52] <MrDigimon> thats facinating, 1 kernel to all the different
[02:52] <MrDigimon> versions
[02:52] <HymnToLife> yep, but the kernel is just one tiny bit, really
[02:52] <NiceGuyUK> exactly
[02:52] <NiceGuyUK> its the distros that differ
[02:53] <HymnToLife> in the way they ork, distros like Slackware and Debian for example have very little in common
[02:53] <MrDigimon> wasnt the guy who wrote the kernel from finland?
[02:53] <NiceGuyUK> yep
[02:53] <robert_l> hmmm, lots of lines of code for 'just one tiny bit' though ...
[02:53] <MrDigimon> i live in Finland
[02:53] <HymnToLife> robert__, compared to everything else, yes
[02:53] <NiceGuyUK> thats why Debian refer to GNU/Linux
[02:53] <HymnToLife> how many lines of code do you thing there is in gcc for example ?
[02:54] <HymnToLife> think
[02:54] <MrDigimon> umm, good question =P
[02:54] <robert_l> 8172
[02:54] <NiceGuyUK> try multiplying up by at least 1000
[02:55] <robert_l> ok, bad guess by me  :)
[02:55] <MrDigimon> 9'000'000?
[02:55] <HymnToLife> so my point is, with all the distros out there, lots of them are just as bad as win
[02:55] <HymnToLife> both technically and philosophically
[02:55] <NiceGuyUK> ecample : Debian 2.2 contains more than 55 million lines of code
[02:56] <MrDigimon> umm, who wants to read it? =)
[02:56] <robert_l> hate to debug that then
[02:56] <robert_l> isn't a good or bad distro relative to what a user wants from it?
[02:57] <HymnToLife> certainly
[02:57] <MrDigimon> but linux is from finland from the beginning so i guess thats why im using it, and theres no viruses
[02:57] <HymnToLife> ok, "distros that _I_ think are bad"
[02:57] <HymnToLife> better ? :p
[02:58] <robert_l> not being picky, just wondering why so many distros - so many parallel developers - some with little in common except the kernal
[02:58] <NiceGuyUK> cos everyone thinks they know better :P
[02:59] <HymnToLife> you just said it, because people want different thing from them
[02:59] <MrDigimon> a little thing i noticed, how many of u speak swedish?
[02:59] <NiceGuyUK> even Windows has stolen our idea - Vista Standard, Vista Pro, Vista Ultimate.  So many distros!
[02:59] <NiceGuyUK> ;-)
[02:59] <HymnToLife> they stole it from Manrdriva
[02:59] <robert_l> isnt that a patent infringement ????
[03:00] <seishinbyou> Vista was a great advertisement for Linux
[03:00] <NiceGuyUK> I have a Vista machine - for the purpose of seeing just how bad it is
[03:00] <NiceGuyUK> (and for comedy value!)
[03:00] <robert_l> :)
[03:00] <MrDigimon> :)
[03:01] <HymnToLife> I'd never install Vista on one of my machines
[03:01] <HymnToLife> they did nothing to deserve that
[03:01] <NiceGuyUK> lol
[03:01] <NiceGuyUK> by day I run a support team in a software company that is purely MS
[03:01] <korobase> !disk
[03:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:01] <NiceGuyUK> (but I support people on #kubuntu while I'm at work :-P )
[03:02] <HymnToLife> korobase, when checking factoids for yourself, please msg the bot in privatez
[03:02] <NiceGuyUK> really? thats the rule?
[03:02] <robert_l> wife's boxen has vista home - wouldn't let her print emails because 'it was unsafe' - had to trawl the forums to see how to disable that,and the annoying 'security' popups
[03:02] <seishinbyou> I use VMWare to run the custom apps I need at work and that's it, but even some of those are moving to web-based solutions
[03:02] <HymnToLife> not really a _rule_ but what's the point in doing it on the public channel ?
[03:03] <NiceGuyUK> knowledge sharing?  I had a question earlier that someone else said "I was waiting for the answer to that too"
[03:03] <NiceGuyUK> tis useful sometimes
[03:03] <korobase> seishinbyou:Where can I find the VMware?
[03:03] <HymnToLife> asking a question is different from just firing up a !factoid :p
[03:03] <HymnToLife> korobase, vmware.com
[03:04] <NiceGuyUK> I guess
[03:04] <HymnToLife> not too surprisingly :p
[03:04] <korobase> It's a free software?
[03:04] <seishinbyou> vmware is available as a trial (the player is still free I think)
[03:04] <HymnToLife> free as in beer
[03:04] <NiceGuyUK> it is now, for personal use
[03:04] <seishinbyou> The workstation is only free for 30 days
[03:04] <HymnToLife> not free as in freedom
[03:04] <seishinbyou> but they did have a beta period where you could register as a developer and get a free license
[03:04] <seishinbyou> hence I still have it
[03:04] <seishinbyou> It's great, though.  Snapshots features ftw
[03:05] <HymnToLife> vmware server is free without limit
[03:05] <seishinbyou> How is qemu shaping us these days, anyways?
[03:05] <HymnToLife> dunno, been a while since I last checked it out
[03:06] <seishinbyou> I'll have to try it out again, the accelerated kqemu wasn't working last time I tried it
[03:06] <MrDigimon> but have anyone of u had the same problem as me when installin xp with qemu, it stops when its installing devices...
[03:07] <robert_l> no, just had problem of xp stops ......
[03:08] <robert_l> when running xp
[03:08] <korobase> What is the diff between the vmware server and Workstation?
[03:08] <MrDigimon> wonder why it stops at devices for me then....
[03:09] <NiceGuyUK> lol
[03:09] <Jucato> korobase: workstation is not free (you have to pay) and more supported. it gets newer features than either server or player
[03:09] <seishinbyou> korobase: http://kontrawize.blogs.com/kontrawize/2006/03/vmware_server_v.html
[03:09] <NiceGuyUK> MrDigimon wonders about someting, then Iwonder|too joins
[03:10] <NiceGuyUK> amusing :)
[03:10] <HymnToLife> Jucato, true but server has always done the job for me
[03:10] <Jucato> HymnToLife: true. I was just answering his query :)
[03:11] <korobase> Can I install a OS using the Server as well as the Workstation?
[03:11] <HymnToLife> yes
[03:11] <Jucato> oh btw, I think workstation has something in beta that will let your guest OS use hardware 3d acceleration
[03:15] <robert_l> c(_)  found that free beer
[03:15] <seishinbyou> Free beer?  That reminds me, when is the next Tokyo Linux meeting...
[03:15] <Jucato> O.o
[03:15] <seishinbyou> June 8th :(
[03:16] <seishinbyou> Linux meetings in Tokyo are usually lots of drinking and complaining about how Japanese managers try to push Windows for everything
[03:16] <NiceGuyUK> its not just a Japan thing ;)
[03:16] <seishinbyou> Yeah, just a language difference, really :)
[03:16] <NiceGuyUK> I used to go to Linux meetings in London
[03:17] <stanley> hi guys...i'm trying to play a vcd, n i think i installed every codec known to man
[03:17] <stanley> but i can;t get it to play
[03:17] <stanley> can someone help me out please??
[03:17] <manu__> is it possible to send a video file to video device video0?
[03:17] <manu__> so it would be possible to send a video via webcam?
[03:17] <manu__> instead of using the cam on this device?
[03:17] <korobase> In the /etc/fstab.What is the UUID means?
[03:18] <korobase> I want to mount a disk part and write it to the fstab.
[03:18] <Jucato> !uuid | korobase
[03:18] <ubotu> korobase: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[03:18] <korobase> How to write a UUID.
[03:18] <NiceGuyUK> korobase: Universally Unique Identifier
[03:19] <Jucato> korobase: you don't need to. you can just use the regular /dev way if you want
[03:19] <stanley> guys help me out please...i need to see this vcd to do a presentation
[03:19] <stanley> i've installed every codec i can find
[03:19] <Jucato> or you can use System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Disks & Filesystems
[03:19] <stanley> but i can't get it to play
[03:19] <ulrich> which media player do u use?
[03:19] <NiceGuyUK> stanley: what are you using to try and play it, and what error do you get?
[03:19] <korobase> But May characters can't be show correctly.
[03:20] <chris_scummette> normal vcds can be viewed in some dvd players on your tv usually
[03:20] <stanley> i have used totem, real player, and kaffeine
[03:20] <korobase> It use the Chinese gbk character set.
[03:20] <ulrich> try vlc media player
[03:20] <chris_scummette> yep vlc runs almost everything
[03:20] <NiceGuyUK> ulrich: thats what I was gonna say too :)
[03:20] <stanley> kaffeine just kicks out
[03:20] <Jucato> korobase: I think you have to use the correct mount options for that. I'm not familiar with that though. sorry
[03:20] <stanley> real player just stops
[03:21] <chris_scummette> real player just sucks
[03:21] <stanley> n totem says it needs new plugins
[03:21] <ulrich> yea then try vlc media player
[03:21] <stanley> vlc
[03:21] <stanley> ok
[03:21] <stanley> thanx
[03:21] <chris_scummette> yes vlc
[03:21] <NiceGuyUK> !vlc | stanley
[03:21] <ubotu> stanley: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:21] <chris_scummette> no need for codecs or stuff like that
[03:21] <ulrich> use the adept installer easiest way
[03:21] <chris_scummette> can someone help me with adept manager
[03:22] <chris_scummette> ans/od amule too
[03:22] <stanley> ok thanx
[03:23] <chris_scummette> i must copy some skin in the usr/share, but it says that i havent got the riht to do that
[03:23] <chris_scummette> how do i take this right?
[03:24] <NiceGuyUK> use sudo in front of the command
[03:24] <chris_scummette> i try to do it via the GUI
[03:24] <chris_scummette> whats the command?
[03:24] <NiceGuyUK> sudo sudo cp blah.blah /usr/share
[03:24] <chris_scummette> sudo upkg ...
[03:25] <chris_scummette> ok
[03:25] <NiceGuyUK> erm, without the extra sudo lol
[03:25] <chris_scummette> lol
[03:25] <chris_scummette> right
[03:26] <muad> any suggestions on an ftp program? server, not client
[03:27] <scheuri> hi everyone
[03:27] <NiceGuyUK> muad : ProFTPd
[03:27] <seishinbyou> I juse install sshd and use sftp for that stuff.  Don't like to much around in ftp
[03:27] <HymnToLife> muad, vsftpd
[03:28] <MGram> Er her nogle fra DK?
[03:28] <HymnToLife> !dk
[03:28] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[03:28] <scheuri> anyone experience "weird" things with kmail/kontact in kubuntu 7.04....when I reply to a message my cursor is at the bottom and when I forward a message there is no quioting whatsoever even if the template is on
[03:28] <muad> have to check a few of those out, thanks
[03:29] <NiceGuyUK> HymnToLife: vsftpd better than ProFtpd?
[03:29] <HymnToLife> imo, yes
[03:29] <scheuri> seishinbyou: well, ftp is much faster if you have a lot to transfer....but...well it is plaintext
[03:29] <NiceGuyUK> HymnToLife: in what ways?
[03:29] <scheuri> NiceGuyUK: imho, yes it is...more secure
[03:29] <hyper_ch> any squid pros here?
[03:29] <HymnToLife> but I must admit I didn't use pro* much
[03:29] <seishinbyou> true, but I never usually have *that* much to transfer
[03:30] <NiceGuyUK> ok, may check it out too
[03:30] <muad> ssh going to allow windows machines access as well, correct?
[03:30] <HymnToLife> NiceGuyUK, more secure, essentially
[03:30] <scheuri> seishinbyou: well, then sshd (scp, sftp) is just fine...
[03:30] <HymnToLife> (vs stands for Very Secure :p)
[03:30] <seishinbyou> works for me
[03:30] <scheuri> muad: from windows to linux with ssh is fine....
[03:31] <seishinbyou> When I had to transfer some files from my Win box to Linux, I set up sshd on Kubuntu and used WinSCP to transfer a bunch 'o' files
[03:31] <seishinbyou> Nice when my laptop lacks certain things
[03:31] <muad> hm
[03:31] <NiceGuyUK> what? no telnet to port 21? :P
[03:31] <scheuri> indeed
[03:31] <seishinbyou> like a CD drive or working  USB ports :(
[03:31] <HymnToLife> I use FileZilla for that, very good FTP client and has SSH support too :p
[03:31] <scheuri> NiceGuyUK: well...you think you are funny...have you checked Cisco lately? they still use telnet...;)
[03:32] <muad> was just about to ask if FZ could handle ssh
[03:32] <NiceGuyUK> scheuri: *shudder*
[03:32] <HymnToLife> well, it can :p
[03:32] <scheuri> muad: for windows you may also use WinSCP (for file transfer) or putty (shell)...or actually ftp...:)
[03:33] <scheuri> anyone familiar with kmail and its templates for forwarding messages and stuff
[03:33] <muad> well, only one final left so i need to find a project before i start working again, looks like this'll keep me busy.
[03:35] <muad> is there a guide for any of these? sshd? vsftpd? proftpd?
[03:35] <muad> i've no experience in these matters
[03:36] <scheuri> I am too stupid....
[03:36] <scheuri> *shakes head*
[03:36] <seishinbyou> sshd I installed with
[03:36] <seishinbyou> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:36] <seishinbyou> (if my mind is working tonight)
[03:36] <scheuri> seishinbyou: that looks good to me
[03:36] <scheuri> but use aptitude instead of apt-get
[03:37] <muad> there's another question i've been meaning to ask, whats the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[03:37] <NiceGuyUK> muad: aptitude is better at handling dependencies if you uninstall
[03:38] <scheuri> muad: NiceGuyUK was faster than me...;)
[03:38] <muad> heh
[03:38] <scheuri> muad: he was basically right...aptitude has some more other features, too...however, you do not need them all the time...
[03:39] <scheuri> muad: there was a good website around explaining it...but...can't find it now...arrrr
[03:39] <Jucato> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[03:40] <MrDigimon> have anyone noticed the minesweaper game in aptitude?
[03:41] <chris_scummette> i got sime problemes running adept manager
[03:42] <MrDigimon> how come
[03:42] <NiceGuyUK> chris_scummette: what problems?
[03:42] <chris_scummette> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system
[03:42] <NiceGuyUK> chris_scummette: close any other programs for managing software
[03:42] <chris_scummette> ok
[03:42] <NiceGuyUK> !adeptfix | chris_scummette
[03:42] <ubotu> chris_scummette: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:43] <NiceGuyUK> that one too if the first idea fails
[03:43] <muad> another question -lots this morning it seems- i want to uninstall kopete and replace it with the generic one so i can get the -dev files, any way to do this without apt wanting to remove kubuntu-desktop?
[03:43] <chris_scummette> may i answer yes or no
[03:44] <chris_scummette> to this sript
[03:44] <MrDigimon> script?
[03:45] <jthomas> good day!  I recently installed Xubuntu on a laptop, and I could choose to change the 'umount' command/button for flashdrives to 'sync && umount'... is this done automatically in Kubuntu, the sync part?
[03:45] <chris_scummette> lol ok
[03:45] <chris_scummette> flash updtae had blocked it
[03:46] <scheuri> muad: this wont be possible as kopete is part of kubuntu-desktop...however, do not worry, kubuntu-desktop is only a virtual package
[03:46] <muad> scheuri: ah-ha, that makes much more sense now, thanks.
[03:46] <scheuri> muad: it will leave everything the way it is (expect of removing kopete), but since you have kopete removed, the virtual package kubuntu-desktop is not complete anymore thus will be removed
[03:47] <muad> scheuri: i get it, neat. never occured to me that it could be a virtual package.
[03:48] <jthomas> does Kubuntu's 'Safely Remove' a USB drive sync the drive first?
[03:48] <scheuri> muad: if you make an "aptitude search whateveryouwant" and you see a v at the start of a line...this indicates a virtual packages
[03:48] <scheuri> jthomas: yes, it does
[03:48] <scheuri> jthomas: or at least it should
[03:49] <jthomas> scheuri: why is it not automatic in Xubuntu but yes in Kubuntu?
[03:49] <muad> the morning of learning lots of new things for me, been using linux for years and always finding more i don't know
[03:49] <scheuri> jthomas: I am sorry, I can not answer this question...
[03:49] <jthomas> scheuri: thanks for the help!
[03:49] <scheuri> jthomas: welcome
[03:50] <scheuri> jthomas: as a hint...I am doing ALWAYS a "sync" on the CLI when copying important files and then plugging the stick
[03:51] <MrDigimon> must leave now, mum is trying to rip out the RAM from my computer, Bye
[03:52] <jthomas> scheuri: i also do this, but it seems to remove some of the user friendlyness if it needs to be done, IMHO
[03:52] <scheuri> jthomas: sure it does...I am with you...however, I do not know why xubuntu does not do it by default...
[03:53] <jthomas> scheuri: thanks for the help :)
[03:53] <NiceGuyUK> jthomas: cos Xubuntu hasn't had code written to support it, whereas KDE uses the KIO daemon
[03:53] <stanley> hi ubotu...vlc didn't work
[03:54] <NiceGuyUK> in both KDE and other OSes (win), its always recommended to use the "safely remove this device" thing
[03:54] <stanley> NiceGuy vlc didn't work
[03:54] <jthomas> NiceGuyUK: of course one should safely remove.  But if its just a matter in Xubuntu of adding 'sync && ' before hand, wouldn't that be ideal, to sync the data first?
[03:54] <NiceGuyUK> stanley: hmmm, maybe its a duff VCD then - you tried it on Windows or on a DVD player connected to a TV ?
[03:55] <stanley> wheni open vlc n choose to play the disc it doesnt show any video
[03:55] <stanley> yea i have n it works fine
[03:55] <NiceGuyUK> does it play sound?
[03:55] <mercsta> hay wats happened to synaptic is it just a gnome thing or has it been taken out of ubuntu with feisty ?
[03:55] <NiceGuyUK> gnome thing
[03:55] <NiceGuyUK> sudo aptitude install synaptic if you miss it :)
[03:56] <mercsta> lol dont miss it so much as feel more comfortable with it ;)
[03:57] <NiceGuyUK> stanley: if I remember correctly, VCD is MPEG based.  you got codecs for that?
[03:57] <NiceGuyUK> !mpeg
[03:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:58] <stanley> yepp
[03:58] <stanley> i have every codec u can think of
[04:01] <epimeth> I feel I must share this with the world
[04:01] <epimeth> http://bash.org/?741596
[04:01] <NiceGuyUK> stanley: really sorry, not sure what else to suggest
[04:02] <ulrich> how can i build a new folder ?
[04:02] <hyper_ch> epimeth: I like this site quite a bit... one feature less that's missing in Linux ^^ http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/
[04:02] <hyper_ch> ulrich: just create one
[04:02] <ulrich> how^^
[04:03] <ulrich> sorry im new to kubuntu
[04:03] <ulrich> rightclick new bla doesnt work on my extren hard drive
[04:03] <stanley> ok thanx anyway
[04:04] <sercik> which program do you use to play vcd?
[04:04] <chijin> kaffeine
[04:04] <hyper_ch> ulrich: maybe an error message would be helpful :)
[04:05] <sercik> ulrich: you don't have permission to write on external hd
[04:05] <sercik> hd is ntfs
[04:05] <sercik> ??
[04:05] <scheuri> epimeth: LOL
[04:05] <epimeth> hyper_ch: meh....
[04:05] <epimeth> scheuri: I swear I spat water on my screen
[04:05] <hyper_ch> epimeth: have it installed already? ^^
[04:06] <scheuri> epimeth: well, there are some more quotes you spat the whole glass of water on the screen...yours was just the beginning...;)
[04:07] <NiceGuyUK> /clear
[04:07] <epimeth> scheuri: yea... bashorg is usually pretty lame... but now and then there is an absolute gem
[04:08] <scheuri> epimeth: indeed...
[04:08] <epimeth> hyper_ch: "meh" means "its amusing, but definetly not <g> or lol - worthy
[04:08] <NiceGuyUK> epimeth: www.memetic.org
[04:08] <ulrich> sercik: why dont i have the permission? im the root
[04:08] <NiceGuyUK> quote : "This is intended to be a less-redneck clone of bash.org"
[04:09] <hyper_ch> epimeth: what made me laughing is that it has already been hacked ^^
[04:09] <scheuri> well, thanks epimeth...I was looking for something like "meh"...;)
[04:09] <sercik> if the hd is ntfs.... toy have to mount it using ntfs-3g
[04:09] <hyper_ch> sercik: or use a real file system :)
[04:09] <sercik> i'm not sure but probably this should be the problem
[04:09] <scheuri> heh
[04:09] <sercik> hyper_ch: sure you are right
[04:10] <sercik> also fat32 is better than ntfs :)
[04:10] <scheuri> epimeth: oh wait...I had "heh" to show the same feeling like your "meh"....never mind...;)
[04:10] <hyper_ch> my usb-stick has fat32
[04:10] <epimeth> take that back!  fat32 is better than only two fs's:
[04:10] <epimeth> fat16
[04:10] <epimeth> fat8
[04:10] <hyper_ch> fat1?
[04:11] <sercik> epimeth: we are joking
[04:11] <epimeth> I promise, miscrosoft has never stooped as low as to try and create a one bit fs
[04:11] <epimeth> :-)
[04:11] <ulrich> ah okay thanks
[04:11] <sercik> |ntfs
[04:11] <epimeth> ulrich:
[04:11] <sercik> !ntfs
[04:11] <epimeth> !ntfs
[04:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:11] <sercik> ulrich: read this
[04:11] <epimeth> and specifically:
[04:11] <epimeth> !ntfs-3g
[04:11] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:11] <NiceGuyUK> its cooler to use Phat-32 :P
[04:12] <epimeth> keep in mind that after installing ntfs-config, you have to change the shortcut in the K-menu from gksu to kdesu as gksu does not exist in the defauly kubuntu installation
[04:13] <hyper_ch> ulrich: why do you want to write to a ntfs drive?
[04:13] <sercik> epimeth: it you need you cac n install gksu
[04:13] <sercik> because he want to use it to share woth the rest of the world.............
[04:13] <ulrich> i want to put some music to my external harddrive
[04:14] <hyper_ch> why not making it Ext3 and install the ext2/3 drivers in windows?
[04:14] <ulrich> uargh wait a second and let me read this ^^
[04:14] <hyper_ch> or use - as suggested - fat32
[04:14] <sercik> hyper_ch: not all people have ext3 driver installed
[04:14] <ulrich> i dont know how to change this
[04:14] <sercik> hyper_ch: which driver do you use to read and write on ext3 from windows??
[04:15] <Derminator> if somebody know somethong about soundproblems with ubuntu, please write me private a message
[04:15] <ulrich> i have no idea..
[04:15] <hyper_ch> sercik: there are ext2/3 drivers for windows :)
[04:15] <sercik> i konw
[04:15] <sercik> do you use it? it works good?
[04:15] <SlimeyPete> ext2fs, isn't it? Or is that the old one...
[04:15] <ulrich> i didnt use any drivers for the harddrive
[04:15] <sercik> ext2fs can only read ext2/3 partition
[04:15] <sercik> but to mount ext3 under windows??
[04:16] <korobase> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1,
[04:16] <korobase>        missing codepage or other error
[04:16] <korobase>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[04:16] <korobase>        dmesg | tail  or so
[04:16] <korobase> How to fix this?
[04:16] <ulrich> oh there it is the hard drive is vfat
[04:16] <sercik> korobase i think that hdc is cdrom right??
[04:16] <Derminator> sorry, i not registred
[04:16] <korobase> No.It's my first disk part.
[04:17] <korobase> in my notebook.
[04:17] <sercik> how many hd do you have?
[04:17] <SlimeyPete> sercik: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[04:17] <korobase> One disk
[04:17] <sercik> thank you SlimeyPete
[04:17] <sercik> so you have installed bad because hdc is secondary master HD should be hda
[04:17] <hyper_ch> sercik: http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext3
[04:18] <sercik> hda = primary master
[04:18] <ulrich> what does mounting actually mean ?
[04:18] <korobase> [CODE]  /dev/hdc1 /media/hdc1    ext3     defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46                0       1
[04:18] <ulrich> imean what does it change?
[04:18] <korobase> in my fstab.
[04:18] <hyper_ch> ulrich: mounting --> adding a partition/drive to a point in the file system
[04:18] <hyper_ch> ulrich: unlike windows with c: drive and d: drive and so on
[04:18] <korobase> any one know what is wrong in my fstab.
[04:19] <ulrich> oh i see
[04:19] <hyper_ch> linux has one top level called root ("/") and every other devices is somewhere loaded in there
[04:19] <sercik> korobase you are under linux??
[04:19] <korobase> yes
[04:19] <hyper_ch> making e.g. partition 5 or your primary harddisk availbe you could mount it in /media/hda5
[04:19] <sercik> with the same pc that you speak about?
[04:20] <sercik> ulrich before use linux you must read some manual!!!
[04:20] <hyper_ch> then the contents will of that partition will be listed in that folder /media/hda5
[04:20] <hyper_ch> sercik: reading manuals is not a prerequisite for using linux
[04:20] <hyper_ch> sercik: (but it helps)
[04:20] <korobase> I am sure it's /dev/hdc1 because the kubuntu mount my Windows Part D as /dev/hdc5.
[04:20] <sercik> hyper_ch: please!! without reading you can't use linux
[04:20] <sercik> it is not possible always ask in chat
[04:21] <hyper_ch> sercik: sure you can use linux without reading
[04:21] <sercik> at least the basis.....
[04:21] <sercik> mount umount fstab init etc....
[04:21] <hyper_ch> if you get a pre-installed linux or if all your hardware is auto-detected... it's not that different for 80% of the users that just use some word processing, email and web-surfing
[04:21] <ulrich> yea thats why im reading the link one of u guys sent
[04:22] <sercik> you are right but if you have a little problem
[04:22] <mercsta> hi guys im thinking about replacing my ATI video card with an Nvidia card is it going to be an easy transition or should i just reinstall kubuntu ??
[04:22] <sercik> i'm here to help and also you but the people should also read to learn
[04:22] <hyper_ch> sercik: same goes for windows... most people jsut have a working system and they just use office, email, internet... if they encounter a problem they have no clue either
[04:23] <ulrich> okay so which filesystem do i have to have to be able to write on my ext hd?
[04:23] <sercik> hyper_ch: but if you want to use i suppose that you like pc and you are interested to it so you need to know much about it
[04:23] <hyper_ch> mercsta: should be easy... you are on feisty?
[04:23] <mercsta> yeah feisty
[04:24] <sercik> the people that use pc only for web browsing and email don't know the potential of linux and can't love it
[04:24] <hyper_ch> mercsta: on feisty it shouldn't be aproblem.... but I'd backup the xorg.conf first :) just to be sure
[04:24] <hyper_ch> ulrich: what do you want to do with your ext. hd?
[04:24] <mercsta> so if i shutdown the pc the swap cards then reboot i should have a working desktop still ??
[04:24] <hyper_ch> sercik: understanding and just using a os are very different things :)
[04:24] <korobase> drwxrwx--- is 755,right?
[04:24] <hyper_ch> mercsta: not sure... I've never done it
[04:25] <ulrich> i want to write some music to it
[04:25] <sercik> ok you have understood what i want to tell :)
[04:25] <hyper_ch> mercsta: you may want to put back the xorg.conf first to "nv" before switchin
[04:25] <llutz> korobase: 770
[04:25] <mercsta> lol ok mite save that for tommorrow nite then :P
[04:25] <hyper_ch> ulrich: and it shall be accessible from windows and linux=
[04:25] <ulrich> yes
[04:25] <sercik> hi to all i need to go away now see you soon
[04:25] <hyper_ch> ulrich: how big is the drive?
[04:25] <ulrich> 80GB
[04:25] <sercik> hi hyper_ch it's a pleasure to speak with you!
[04:26] <hyper_ch> sercik: same here :) bye :)
[04:26] <hyper_ch> can fat32 handle 80gb?
[04:26] <epimeth> ack?!!?
[04:26] <epimeth> 17:26
[04:26] <epimeth> time to run away from work
[04:26] <epimeth> muahahaha
[04:26] <llutz> hyper_ch: partitions or files?
[04:26] <ulrich> i think so atm its in fat32
[04:26] <hyper_ch> llutz: partitions
[04:26] <llutz> hyper_ch: it can
[04:26] <scheuri> epimeth: you are british?
[04:26] <hyper_ch> ulrich: the most convenient would be to format is as fat32
[04:27] <ulrich> it is
[04:27] <hyper_ch> ulrich: as neither windows nor linux has problems writing to it
[04:27] <chris_scummette> i got problems with a mule
[04:27] <hyper_ch> ulrich: so what is the problem then?
[04:27] <ulrich>  i cant create any folders in it
[04:27] <hyper_ch> ulrich: you know what pastebin is?
[04:28] <ulrich> Disk /dev/sdb: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[04:28] <ulrich> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[04:28] <ulrich> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[04:28] <ulrich>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:28] <ulrich> /dev/sdb1               1        9728    78140128+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[04:28] <ulrich> is this correct?
[04:28] <hyper_ch> !pastebin | ulrich
[04:28] <ubotu> ulrich: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:28] <hyper_ch> ulrich: you have to mount the drive first into the file system
[04:30] <ulrich> ok and how do i do this ?
[04:30] <kuwanger> I have a small problem with the upgrade process to Feisty Fawn.  I'm told I don't have enough free disk space on /boot, specifically that I need to free 36.5M.  My /boot is 31M big.
[04:30] <ulrich> u got any page where i can read about it ?
[04:30] <hyper_ch> !mount | ulrich
[04:30] <ubotu> ulrich: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:31] <hyper_ch> !DiskMounter | ulrich
[04:31] <ubotu> ulrich: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:31] <chris_scummette> amuke anyon?
[04:31] <chris_scummette> amule
[04:31] <korobase> I right now format a partition of my disk part 1.I find it's not the 20G other than 19.2G.why?
[04:31] <ulrich> !mount
[04:31] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:31] <ulrich> ?
[04:31] <korobase> Where is the other 800M?
[04:31] <chris_scummette> swap?
[04:32] <chris_scummette> lol
[04:32] <korobase> ext3
[04:32] <hyper_ch> ulrich: do you have a terminal window open?
[04:32] <kuwanger> The only reason I have /boot as a separate partition is because I remember there being a problem in the past with grub, where there could be the case where an unclean shutdown could cause an ext3 /boot to be unmountable as ext2 by grub.  Is this issue resolved?  If so, I can just move /boot to my main partition.
[04:32] <ulrich> yes i have
[04:34] <llutz> kuwanger: imho you can safely move your /boot into /
[04:34] <knowpix> al!
[04:34] <llutz> kuwanger: i havent had a /boot since ages, never had any problem so far
[04:34] <knowpix> salut
[04:34] <kuwanger> llutz: Well, that's good to hear.
[04:35] <hyper_ch> ulrich: run:     sudo mkdir /media/fat32
[04:36] <ulrich> okay and then ?
[04:37] <hyper_ch> ulrich: sudo mount  -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/fat32 -o uid=1000 gid=1000
[04:38] <hyper_ch> I think that's it... not 100% sure
[04:38] <hyper_ch> ulrich: sudo mount  /dev/sdb1 /media/fat32 -t vfat -o uid=1000 gid=1000
[04:39] <ulrich> okay
[04:39] <ulrich> some text appears
[04:39] <ulrich> oh damn i need to go to the eye doc i cant read anything..
[04:40] <kuwanger> llutz: Well, guess I'll just cross my fingers.
[04:40] <hyper_ch> ok, some text appearing means it's not correct :)
[04:41] <ulrich> yea some info and some commands
[04:41] <hyper_ch> ulrich: what info?
[04:41] <ulrich> looks like an instruction how to mount
[04:42] <hyper_ch> !pastebin | ulrich
[04:42] <ubotu> ulrich: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:42] <llutz>  ulrich: sudo mount  /dev/sdb1 /media/fat32 -t vfat -o uid=1000,gid=1000
[04:42] <hyper_ch> oh, forgot the comma :)
[04:44] <ulrich> oh i see so now the ext HD is "connected" with the fat32 folder?
[04:45] <hyper_ch> ulrich: well, it's mounted there :)
[04:45] <ulrich> for what stands the uid=1000, gid= 1000 ?
[04:45] <hyper_ch> ulrich: that's your user and group id
[04:45] <ulrich> oh i see
[04:45] <hyper_ch> in linux each file belongs to a certain user and certain group
[04:45] <ulrich> great thanks :D
[04:46] <ulrich> looks like i have to read and larn a lot ^^
[04:46] <hyper_ch> ulrich: and the owner chan set permissions for the file... read write execute rights
[04:46] <hyper_ch> ulrich: normally expressed like 0755
[04:46] <hyper_ch> ulrich: or 0644
[04:46] <hyper_ch> ulrich: depending on the rights
[04:46] <hyper_ch> !rwx
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rwx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <jakelights> help please. what command do i use to fix my adept
[04:47] <crazyrobot> jakelights: whats wrong with it?
[04:47] <hyper_ch> ulrich: and with the uid and gid (of your user) you make sure, that you can access the files correctly
[04:47] <hyper_ch> !permissions
[04:47] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[04:48] <hyper_ch> !permissions | ulrich
[04:48] <ubotu> ulrich: please see above
[04:48] <ulrich> !permissions
[04:48] <jakelights> when i try to open it it says i cant do the changes
[04:48] <hyper_ch> jakelights: what's the exacte error message you get?
[04:48] <crazyrobot> jakelights: when you first open adept is it asking for a password to open it?
[04:49] <jakelights> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[04:49] <hyper_ch> jakelights: there you already have the answer
[04:50] <jakelights> i had a problem like this but somebody gave me a command to fix this, sorry im new to linux
[04:51] <hyper_ch> how many instances of adpet are you running?
[04:51] <hyper_ch> jakelights: do you have synaptic open?
[04:51] <jakelights> only one
[04:51] <jakelights> nope
[04:51] <hyper_ch> jakelights: are you running apt-get or aptitude from the command line?
[04:51] <crazyrobot> jakelights: in a terminal type 'sudo killall adept' and then try restarting it.
[04:52] <jakelights> adept: no process killed
[04:52] <spawn57> do you have aptitude or dselect open?
[04:52] <hyper_ch> jakelights: run this in a terminal:       ps aux | grep apt
[04:52] <JuJuBee> How do I tell kubuntu to display a list of users to select from for login rather than just a username and password input field?
[04:52] <ulrich> hyper_ch: how long do you use linux/kubuntu to know so much about it ?
[04:53] <hyper_ch> ulrich: I don't know much about it... I have a debian server running now for 2 years... but there's not much to do and I use *buntu now since august
[04:54] <jakelights> it still the same
[04:54] <ulrich> i see
[04:54] <hyper_ch> jakelights: what does    ps aux | grep apt    return?
[04:54] <hyper_ch> ulrich: I don't know really much about linux :)
[04:55] <jakelights> ps aux | grep apt
[04:55] <jakelights> avahi     4902  0.0  0.2   2668  1396 ?        Ss   23:09   0:00 avahi-daemon: registering [jake-laptop.local] 
[04:55] <jakelights> 1000      7851  1.5  4.0  61976 20824 ?        S    23:45   0:06 konversation -caption Konversation -icon konversation -miniicon konversation
[04:55] <jakelights> 1000      7939  0.0  0.1   2884   768 pts/1    R+   23:52   0:00 grep apt
[04:55] <spawn57> hyper_ch: it'll return all the programs that start with apt
[04:55] <ulrich> well at least more than i do ^^ but okay i use it since 2 days
[04:55] <spawn57> hyper_ch: no apt running ..seems fine
[04:55] <hyper_ch> neither apt-get nor aptitude
[04:55] <spawn57> hyper_ch: what's the problem though?
[04:55] <hyper_ch> jakelights:    ps aux | grep synap
[04:56] <hyper_ch> spawn57: he can't open adept displaying the message some other tool is alrady running
[04:56] <jakelights> ps aux | grep synap
[04:56] <jakelights> 1000      7980  0.0  0.1   2880   748 pts/1    R+   23:56   0:00 grep synap
[04:56] <hyper_ch> jakelights:    ps aux | grep adept
[04:56] <spawn57> can't he find out who's which program na user is created the lock file?
[04:57] <jakelights> there:
[04:57] <jakelights> ps aux | grep synap
[04:57] <jakelights> 1000      7980  0.0  0.1   2880   748 pts/1    R+   23:56   0:00 grep synap
[04:57] <hyper_ch> spawn57: yes
[04:57] <spawn57> hyper_ch: i dunno what command can help him do that? is it lsof?
[04:57] <JuJuBee> Anybody?  I want to display a list of users that can log into a given machine rather than just have a username and password field.
[04:57] <ulrich> okay now this is stupid.. i still cant move any folders to my musicfolder..
[04:57] <vagabon1> I followed instructions from this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092&highlight=dell+wireless+1390 to get my wireless working.  Network Manager recognizes my card and my network but when I try to connect it hangs at "Activation stage: configuring device - 28%".  Anyone have any suggestions?
[04:57] <hyper_ch> spawn57: no clue :(
[04:57] <hyper_ch> jakelights: tried rebooting?
[04:58] <spawn57> hyper_ch: hehe that's the cheap way but it should work
[04:58] <jakelights> ive tried it already but nothings change
[04:58] <hyper_ch> ulrich: execute  this   sudo ls -al /media
[04:58] <hyper_ch> ulrich: and    sudo ls -al /media/fat32
[04:58] <hyper_ch> ulrich: and use a pastebin
[04:58] <hyper_ch> spawn57: apparently it doesn't work
[04:59] <ulrich> i dont know how pastebin works ^^
[04:59] <crazyrobot> jakelights: see what files are in /var/lock
[04:59] <hyper_ch> !pastebin | ulrich
[04:59] <ubotu> ulrich: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:59] <chris_scummette> hezy
[04:59] <chris_scummette> hey
[04:59] <hyper_ch> jakelights: sudo ls -al /var/lock
[04:59] <chris_scummette> im getting troubles with amule
[04:59] <spawn57> jakelights: try doing apt-get update and paste the error here (if it's around 1-2 lines )
[05:00] <chris_scummette> refuses to load cause of the skin i gu"ss
[05:00] <ulrich> 1
[05:00] <ulrich>  2
[05:00] <ulrich>  3
[05:00] <jakelights> apt-get update
[05:00] <jakelights> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:00] <jakelights> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:00] <ulrich>  4
[05:00] <ulrich>  5
[05:00] <ulrich>  6
[05:00] <hyper_ch> jakelights: sudo apt-get update
[05:00] <ulrich>  7
[05:01] <hyper_ch> ulrich: ????
[05:01] <ulrich>  8
[05:01] <ulrich>  9
[05:01] <ulrich> 10
[05:01] <ulrich> 11
[05:01] <spawn57> jakelights: hehe sorry i forgot to tell you to do sudo
[05:01] <ulrich> 12
[05:01] <ulrich> 13
[05:01] <ulrich> 14
[05:01] <jakelights> sorry too
[05:01] <ulrich> 15
[05:01] <ulrich>   total 120
[05:01] <ulrich> drwxr-xr-x  8 root   root  4096 2007-05-17 16:35 .
[05:01] <ulrich> drwxr-xr-x 21 root   root  4096 2007-05-16 18:10 ..
[05:01] <ulrich> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root     6 2007-05-16 17:37 cdrom -> cdrom0
[05:01] <spawn57> urlich pasted in here hhaha
[05:01] <hyper_ch> ulrich: use a pastebin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:01] <ulrich> drwxr-xr-x  2 root   root  4096 2007-05-16 17:37 cdrom0
[05:02] <ulrich> drwxr-xr-x  2 root   root  4096 2007-05-16 17:37 cdrom1
[05:02] <ulrich> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root    45 2007-05-16 17:38 .directory -> /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/directory-media
[05:02] <spawn57> use pastebin if it's more than one line man
[05:02] <jakelights> sudo apt-get update
[05:02] <jakelights> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release.gpg [191B] 
[05:02] <jakelights> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Translation-en_US
[05:02] <jakelights> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Translation-en_US
[05:02] <jakelights> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/universe Translation-en_US
[05:02] <ulrich> drwxr-xr-x 14 ulrich root 32768 2007-05-17 16:57 fat32
[05:02] <spawn57> just wait for the flodoing to stop for now
[05:02] <ulrich> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root     7 2007-05-16 17:37 floppy -> floppy0
[05:02] <ulrich> drwxr-xr-x  2 root   root  4096 2007-05-16 17:37 floppy0
[05:02] <ulrich> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root    96 2007-05-17 14:09 .hal-mtab
[05:02] <ulrich> --wS--s--T  1 root   root     0 2007-04-17 07:25 .hal-mtab-lock
[05:02] <ulrich> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root    42 2007-05-16 17:38 .hidden -> /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-media
[05:02] <ulrich> drwxr-xr-x 14 ulrich root 32768 2007-05-17 16:57 sdb1
[05:02] <ulrich> drwxr-xr-x 14 ulrich root 32768 2007-05-17 16:57 WD USB 2
[05:02] <ulrich> oh damn <.<
[05:02] <ulrich> i sont know how to paste
[05:02] <ulrich> dont*
[05:02] <hyper_ch> !pastebin | ulrich
[05:02] <ubotu> ulrich: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:02] <spawn57> haha it's fine, just dont' do it again in here haha
[05:02] <chris_scummette> anyone can helpme?
[05:02] <hyper_ch> spawn57: I told him multiple times already
[05:03] <ulrich> yea i know and i tried and it didnt work i dont know what to do with this page!
[05:03] <spawn57> yeah? ..damn
[05:03] <neverblue> ulrich, maybe paste in it?
[05:03] <neverblue> cause its called pastebin
[05:03] <hyper_ch> ulrich: you just paste the output in that site and then you get a url which you can post here
[05:03] <neverblue> the paste in pastebin is a big hint
[05:04] <ulrich> well i dont get any url
[05:04] <neverblue> hyper_ch> !pastebin | ulrich
 ulrich: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:04] <jakelights> guys please help with my adept
[05:04] <hyper_ch> spawn57: did you see apt-get worked.........
[05:04] <spawn57> hyper_ch: it did?
[05:04] <hyper_ch> spawn57: wouldn't an error message appear instead if it doesn't?
[05:05] <ulrich> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21295/
[05:05] <ulrich> this ?
[05:05] <spawn57> yeah, that another program as a lock
[05:05] <spawn57> brb,I gotta print a picutre in windows
[05:05] <spawn57> gimme 5mins and I'll help you again jake
[05:05] <hyper_ch> spawn57: but that didn't appear... it started connecting and fetching updates
[05:06] <jakelights> thanks
[05:06] <hyper_ch> ulrich: yes and now  sudo ls -al /media/fat32
[05:06] <spawn57> hyper_ch: did it now..
[05:06] <ulrich> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21296/
[05:06] <hyper_ch> spawn57:
[05:06] <hyper_ch> [17:02]  <jakelights> sudo apt-get update
[05:06] <hyper_ch> [17:02]  <jakelights> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release.gpg [191B] 
[05:06] <spawn57> hey jakelights, open a konsole and type in  adept, it'll ususally spit out debug messages
[05:07] <hyper_ch> !de | ulrich
[05:07] <ubotu> ulrich: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:07] <okay> ho
[05:07] <hyper_ch> ulrich: join the german room... that's going to be easier :)
[05:07] <ulrich> oh okay
[05:07] <ulrich> cya uys
[05:07] <ulrich> guys*
[05:07] <hyper_ch> ulrich: you can stay in here :) no problem :)
[05:08] <chris_scummette> my amule refuses to load
[05:08] <chris_scummette> cause opf the skin
[05:08] <jakelights> i think my adept crashed
[05:09] <hyper_ch> jakelights: execute this:   sudo apt-get remove adept && sudo apt-get install adept
[05:09] <crazyrobot> jakelights: or better yet do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow adept'
[05:10] <pteron> Hi! I've just installed Ubuntu 64bit, and trying to get my Linksys WMP11-wireless network card to work by using ndiswrapper. But I can only find a 32bit driver and ndiswrapper need a 64bit driver - is it possible to install ndiswrapper as 32bit on a 64bit ubuntu?
[05:11] <jakelights> nothing happens w8 ill reboot again
[05:12] <hyper_ch> pteron: your linksys isn't auto-detected?
[05:13] <mallize> anyone know how to turn on chat logging in kopete?
[05:13] <pteron> hyper_ch: I can see it by using lspci, if that is what you mean, but it is not detected in "Network"
[05:15] <hyper_ch> pteron: can you paste the according lspci output?
[05:16] <pteron> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card
[05:17] <hyper_ch> it does not say what chip :(
[05:17] <lydia> hey there i got some troubles running amule
[05:17] <hyper_ch> pteron: oh well... good luck... can't really help you
[05:17] <hyper_ch> pteron: my linksys card got a ralink chip and works out of the box
[05:17] <hyper_ch> filesharing software is evil ^^
[05:18] <pteron> hyper_ch: But are you also running 64bit?
[05:18] <seishinbyou> depends on what files you are sharing
[05:18] <lydia> yep
[05:18] <hyper_ch> pteron: nope
[05:18] <mendred> pteron:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=378221
[05:18] <mendred> this is a link for ur card
[05:18] <mendred> 64 bit breezy :)
[05:18] <lydia> nobody will help me withamule?
[05:18] <lydia> its a skin probleme apparently
[05:18] <hyper_ch> seishinbyou: well, the Swiss IP Office thinks of filesharing software generally as evil and illegal
[05:19] <Rictoo> oops :O
[05:19] <mendred> pteron:  also in the thread u will notice that someone claims that both 32 bit and 64 bit drivers for ur card exist
[05:19] <seishinbyou> hyper_ch: Ah, the JP government is only against a specific one, "Winny"
[05:19] <chopin> is there seriously no opera package in adept?
[05:19] <hyper_ch> seishinbyou: Winny? Haven't heard of that.. what is it?
[05:20] <hyper_ch> chopin: there seriously is no opera package in adept
[05:20] <LjL> chopin: why would you expect one to be there? it's barely a freeware application, used to be shareware... get the .deb from opera.com
[05:20] <seishinbyou> It's basically a torrent client; only popular in Japan it seems
[05:20] <seishinbyou> like lzh compression for windows files :p
[05:20] <chopin> ah, k
[05:20] <crazyrobot> hyper_ch: you have to add a repo to get opera
[05:20] <chopin> thx LjL
[05:20] <hyper_ch> chopin: or add the "opera debian" repository to your list
[05:20] <pteron> mendred: reading it now. I hope ill solve it, because without my network card ubuntu isnt an option as OS
[05:20] <chopin> o
[05:20] <hyper_ch> crazyrobot: I know, I have it :)
[05:21] <hyper_ch> seishinbyou: lzh :) that I know :)
[05:21] <hyper_ch> seishinbyou: just curious, does windows Japanese Edition use UTF-8?
[05:21] <seishinbyou> It was fine on the Amiga
[05:21] <seishinbyou> Windows relies on SJIS unfortunately
[05:21] <mendred> pteron: let me hunt around a bit more
[05:21] <seishinbyou> Pain, since most of my work is in Unicode
[05:22] <hyper_ch> seishinbyou: same here... ISO-8995-1 or something like that...
[05:22] <hyper_ch> 8859-1
[05:22] <pteron> mendred: if you find something that work, ill give you my soul
[05:22] <seishinbyou> And whatever bizarre encoding the old MSDOS apps used
[05:22] <mendred> pteron: u could use the 32-bit ubuntu u know :)
[05:22] <lydia> nobody can help me seriously?
[05:23] <hyper_ch> why can't everyone just use unicode... would be much better
[05:23] <hyper_ch> lydia: try another mule-client
[05:23] <mallize> so nobody knows how to turn on chat logging in kopete?
[05:23] <pteron> mendred: I know, but ill like to give the 64bit a shot. And I will not give my soul away for a 32bit soloution ;)
[05:23] <mendred> rofl
[05:24] <mendred> i will take u up on that
[05:24] <lydia> theres only amule that s gopod
[05:25] <weiyuan> Hello
[05:25] <weiyuan> I'm trying to setup chinese input on my fresh install of kubuntu feisty
[05:26] <weiyuan> but for some reason, I can't get it to work
[05:26] <hyper_ch> lydia: if it is not working it can't be good :)
[05:26] <hyper_ch> weiyuan: maybe seishinbyou can help :)
[05:26] <weiyuan> I installed it through system settings->regional and languages->add language
[05:26] <weiyuan> and added the chinese locale
[05:27] <seishinbyou> did you add scim
[05:27] <weiyuan> it seems that now I can change the system language
[05:27] <weiyuan> but I can-t get the input system to work
[05:27] <seishinbyou> And set the keyboard layout to the appropriate one
[05:27] <weiyuan> I have scim in the programs menu
[05:28] <weiyuan> seishinbyou: how do I set the keyboard properly?
[05:29] <lydia> how do i open xxx.package
[05:29] <weiyuan> is there any difference between using scim or skim to configure the input system?
[05:29] <seishinbyou> system settings -> country & language
[05:29] <hyper_ch> lydia: what package?
[05:29] <lydia> xmule package
[05:29] <lydia> downloaded on sourceforge
[05:29] <hyper_ch> lydia: what file ending?
[05:29] <seishinbyou> Don't know; it's getting too late for me to think straight
[05:30] <lydia> gcc
[05:30] <hyper_ch> lydia: oh... is it source code?
[05:30] <lydia> i dont know
[05:30] <hyper_ch> url?
[05:30] <lydia> im new to linux
[05:30] <seishinbyou> Oh, under country & lanuage -> add your language and then click the keyboard icon to add your keyboard layout
[05:30] <weiyuan> hmm... so my keyboard is an american keyboard
[05:30] <hyper_ch> lydia: did you try removing amule and installing it again?
[05:30] <lydia> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=xmule&filename=xmule-1.13.6.x86-gcc33.package&use_mirror=mesh
[05:30] <lydia> yes and still that skin problem
[05:30] <Arme> Hi.... I have strange problem with Konq.... It doesn't wann to load any pages... But when I start it as other user, it works fine....
[05:30] <lydia> it says :
[05:31] <lydia> "deafult skin will be bla bla"
[05:31] <weiyuan> so I just checked the "enable keyboard layout" checkbox
[05:31] <lydia> and after this
[05:31] <lydia> it crashes
[05:31] <weiyuan> and the american keyboard layout was already there
[05:31] <seishinbyou> Okay, so what is your hotkey for activating scim/skim
[05:31] <seishinbyou> i.e.
[05:32] <seishinbyou> Mine is the $BH>3Q!&A43Q(B key to switch to Japanese input
[05:32] <kuwanger> Hmm..anyone here know how to configure parallel ports under WINE?
[05:32] <seishinbyou> also, Shift space is another default for some silly reason
[05:32] <flake> using screenlets, why do mine not have transparent-backgrounds
[05:32] <hyper_ch> lydia: it's a binary.... hmmm, download it, make it executable and run it....
[05:32] <lydia> how do you make it executable
[05:32] <lydia> lol
[05:32] <weiyuan>  hmm... it/
[05:33] <hyper_ch> lydia: where did you save the file to?
[05:33] <weiyuan> Control+space,Shift+space,Zenkaku_Hankaku,Hangul
[05:33] <lydia> desktop
[05:33] <weiyuan> but none of them do anythin when I type the combination
[05:34] <hyper_ch> the the filename is?
[05:34] <weiyuan> actually, when i click on the skim icon in my system tray, I get a totally empty popup menu
[05:34] <hyper_ch> well, right click on it
[05:34] <hyper_ch> select properites and make sure it is executable
[05:35] <cesar_> holass alguien de chile???
[05:35] <lydia> xmule-1.13.6-x86-gcc33.package
[05:35] <seishinbyou> Ah, so there are no languages assigned to skim?
[05:35] <weiyuan>  I guess so
[05:35] <cesar_> mm
[05:35] <hyper_ch> !es | cesar_
[05:35] <ubotu> cesar_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:36] <weiyuan> I just got this message from skim "If you want to use skim (scim-panel-kde) or scim-qtimm (Qt immodule support for SCIM), please select kconfig as the config module."
[05:36] <mendred> pteron: did u install the wireless-tools package?
[05:36] <lydia> alright
[05:36] <seishinbyou> Not sure if skim/scim are same or what, but for scim here, I right-clicked the toolbar and chose "setup"
[05:36] <hyper_ch> is it executable?
[05:36] <Dekans> can kubuntu manage correctly file transfers on USB devices ?
[05:36] <lydia> yes but requires soms download apprently
[05:36] <pteron> mendred: Hmm i dont think so
[05:36] <hyper_ch> Dekans: what do you mean?
[05:36] <hyper_ch> lydia: what do you get?
[05:37] <Dekans> hyper_ch: the transfer speed is ridiculous
[05:37] <lydia> some downloads running on the console
[05:37] <Dekans> even with the USB 2.0 port
[05:37] <weiyuan> yeah, actually the configuration dialogs of skim and scim look identical, except the icons and themes are nicer in skim
[05:37] <mendred> pteron: that link recommends that u install that
[05:37] <seishinbyou> weiyuan: You can get them with apt-get
[05:37] <seishinbyou> or aptitude
[05:37] <weiyuan> I guess that's because skim is a kde app...
[05:37] <mendred> and he is specifically talking about ur card as well
[05:37] <hyper_ch> lydia: no clue
[05:37] <weiyuan> these 2 packages?
[05:37] <pteron> mendred: How to install or check if it is installed?
[05:37] <lydia> it works
[05:37] <seishinbyou> I did an apt-cache search on scim and got a nice list
[05:37] <lydia> its installing
[05:37] <mendred> do an sudo apt-get install wireless-tools
[05:38] <mendred> in the konsole
[05:38] <pteron> will do
[05:38] <lydia> thanks
[05:38] <hyper_ch> lydia: good luck :)
[05:38] <mendred> or install it from adept
[05:38] <mendred> whichever ur comfortable with
[05:38] <pteron> mendred: ive got it
[05:38] <hyper_ch> Dekans: well, speed and correct transfers are not the same thing
[05:38] <mendred> coolio
[05:38] <seishinbyou> which language do you wish to enter?
[05:38] <lydia> erffffffff
[05:38] <lydia> it closes as soon i open it
[05:39] <lydia> reboot?
[05:39] <hyper_ch> lydia: I don't know
[05:39] <Dekans> hyper_ch: on windows it is fast and I have no problem
[05:39] <hyper_ch> Dekans: for me it's fast on linux and I have no problem
[05:39] <pteron> mendred: What is it or how to use it?
[05:39] <mendred> pteron: lemme figure that out  :)
[05:40] <Dekans> hyper_ch: it's fast out-of-the-box or you changed some settings ?
[05:40] <weiyuan> they are already installed
[05:40] <weiyuan> seishinbyou: I want to input simplified chinese
[05:40] <hyper_ch> Dekans: for me it's fast out-of-the-box
[05:40] <pteron> mendred: Should i start fearing that im actually going to loose my soul? :P
[05:40] <mendred> pteron: lets see
[05:41] <mendred> pteron: from the link it just seems that
[05:41] <mendred> pteron: if u r using 64-bit
[05:41] <mendred> pteron: then u install this packag
[05:41] <seishinbyou> I'm wondering if anything not labelled "Traditional" will be the Simplified character set
[05:41] <mendred> pteron: and then load ur driver through ndiswrapper
[05:41] <seishinbyou> scim-pinyin scim-tables-zh look promising
[05:42] <weiyuan> actually in the scim configuration tool
[05:42] <mendred> pteron: though that sounds illogical to me...but he seems to be claiming that the same driver inf has both 32/64 bit
[05:43] <mendred> pteron: where did u download ur drivers?
[05:43] <seishinbyou> hrm, what is this gcin I'm seeing, actually
[05:43] <seishinbyou> !gcin
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gcin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <pteron> mendred: linksys-homepaeg
[05:43] <weiyuan> the IMEEngine->tables shows me all the input methods I should have
[05:43] <mendred> ok
[05:43] <seishinbyou> gcin - a GTK+ based input method platform for Chinese users
[05:43] <weiyuan> which include english, 4 or five methods for simplified chinese, and 10 or so for traditional
[05:43] <weiyuan> and all are said to be activated
[05:44] <pteron> mendred: this is what i got from dmesg [   43.912800]  ndiswrapper (check_nt_hdr:153): kernel is 64-bit, but Windows driver is not 64-bit;bad magic: 010
[05:44] <lydia> erfff
[05:44] <seishinbyou> What is the "Activation" key to switch your input methods?
[05:44] <lydia> nothing
[05:44] <lydia> :(
[05:44] <weiyuan> the default ones
[05:44] <weiyuan> Ctrl+space
[05:44] <weiyuan> Shift+space
[05:44] <mendred> pteron: u get to keep ur soul :(
[05:44] <seishinbyou> It does nothing when you try to type anything in here? (switch IM)
[05:44] <weiyuan> and the funkz Zenkaku-Hankaku or Hangul things that I don't actually have on my keyboard
[05:45] <pteron> But ndiswrapper looks fine:
[05:45] <pteron> lsipnds : driver installed
[05:45] <pteron>         device (17FE:2120) present
[05:45] <seishinbyou> Ah...Can you do it by selecting it with the mouse
[05:45] <weiyuan>  No it doesn't
[05:45] <seishinbyou> (in the skim panel)
[05:45] <weiyuan> I can't select anything from the skim panel
[05:45] <weiyuan> the list is entirely empty
[05:45] <seishinbyou> Did you "reload configuration"?
[05:45] <weiyuan> no
[05:45] <seishinbyou> Assuming you added new sets after loading it
[05:45] <seishinbyou> initially
[05:45] <weiyuan> How do I do that?
[05:46] <weiyuan> well... I rebooted since I installed chinese support though
[05:46] <seishinbyou> You could right-click the panel and choose "Reload configuration", or kill the process and restart it through a shell
[05:46] <mendred> pteron : huh??????????
[05:47] <seishinbyou> I'm not sure if the changes take affect for presently open apps
[05:47] <mendred> pteron: are u saying its working?
[05:47] <seishinbyou> Type opening up Kate after doing that and switching IMs
[05:48] <pteron> mendred: I looks fine i ndiswrapper, but it says that "module configuration already contains alias directive" when i "ndiswrapper -m"
[05:48] <seishinbyou> UK...where it is a more decent time of the day I assume
[05:48] <NiceGuyUK> 16:48 here
[05:48] <pteron> mendred: I was hoping to see a wlan0 in ifconfig
[05:48] <seishinbyou> better than 00:48
[05:49] <NiceGuyUK> wireless is weird.  one of my adapters comes up as wlan0 the other as eth1
[05:49] <weiyuan> I killed the skim process and restarted it
[05:49] <weiyuan> but It didn't change anything
[05:49] <seishinbyou> Did you try opening a new Kate window and entering something?
[05:49] <mendred> pteron: iwconfig?
[05:50] <pteron> "no wireless extensions"
[05:50] <mendred> pteron: dmesg |tail
[05:50] <weiyuan> yeah, nothing
[05:50] <mendred> wot does it say
[05:50] <seishinbyou> One guide here sais to restart X, but I don't remember if that was necessary
[05:50] <weiyuan> still types english
[05:50] <seishinbyou> This is for Mepis, but maybe it can help - http://www.mepis.org/node/10842
[05:51] <mendred> pteron: try ndiswrapper -ma or -a
[05:51] <weiyuan> well... as I said before, I rebooted right after installing the chinese from the system settings
[05:51] <pteron> mendred: 2 sec
[05:51] <seishinbyou> I chose to install the JP environment from the start so it would do all this for me; I haven't done a manual install since my last Debian install
[05:51] <pteron> mendred: i did the -ma
[05:52] <mendred> pteron: and?
[05:52] <seishinbyou> Do you have language-selector installer (actually, do I?)
[05:52] <pteron> mendred: no change in wconfig or ifconfig
[05:53] <mendred> *sigh*
[05:53] <seishinbyou> no, and I don't know if it matters
[05:53] <flake> are screenlets supposed to have transparent backgrounds?  on Feisty/ubuntu 7.04
[05:53] <weiyuan> I'm following the guide you pointed me to
[05:53] <pteron> mendred: are you supposed to use modprobe in some way?
[05:53] <seishinbyou> My advice right now is do some googling; I'm getting really tired and should doze off
[05:54] <seishinbyou> That guide may not be the best; googling for other "chinese skim setup" or such might give more amusing guides
[05:54] <mendred> pteron: yeah u run a sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:54] <mendred> after doing -ma
[05:54] <weiyuan> ok, thanks a lot
[05:54] <mendred> pteron: and then sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid WHN mode managed
[05:54] <JuJuBee> Gnome had an option to display a list of users at hte login screen.  Does kubuntu have that option somewhere that I am not seeing?
[05:54] <seishinbyou> Oh look, Chinese how-to
[05:54] <seishinbyou> http://www.nixser.com/2006/10/23/debian-chinese-how-to/
[05:55] <seishinbyou> hopefully one of those 2 links or other searches will be of some help
[05:55] <pteron> mendred: "No such device" :(
[05:55] <seishinbyou> I'm off for tonight
[05:55] <seishinbyou> I have to wake up in 4 hours for work :D
[05:55] <evievi> hi there, any skype 7.04 AMD64 version available
[05:55] <evievi> ?
[05:55] <evievi> and flas as well?
[05:55] <mendred> pteron: for modprobe?
[05:55] <evievi> I meant flash! sorry!
[05:56] <mendred> pteron:  did the modprobe succeed?
[05:56] <pteron> mendred: no, when i iwconfig
[05:56] <mendred> pteron: ah ok
[05:56] <pteron> mendred: modprobe didnt give any errors
[05:57] <mendred> pteron: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[05:57] <pteron> mendred: wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning.
[05:57] <mendred> pteron: grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[05:57] <pteron> mendred: :/
[05:58] <pteron> mendred: shouldnt you be able to see wlan0 in ifconfig
[05:58] <NiceGuyUK> evievi: there is no 64-bit flash, you have to use some wrapper for the 32bi version
[05:58] <evievi> I see
[05:58] <fdoving> !flash64 | evievi
[05:58] <ubotu> evievi: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:58] <evievi> and how does this work?
[05:58] <fdoving> evievi: and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#head-6c3cbecd1f1ecd4388bde1462ee364bb57e4533b
[05:58] <evievi> sorry for this newbie question!
[05:59] <NiceGuyUK> not newbie, catches a lot of people out
[05:59] <gggg_> gg
[05:59] <NiceGuyUK> and fdoving is quicker than me :)
[05:59] <JuJuBee> Anybody? Please... I need to figure out how to list the available users at the login screen for kubuntu. It was easy in ubuntu but I cannot find it in kubuntu.
[05:59] <mendred> pteron: iwconfig wlan0 ssid SSIDNAME
[06:00] <evievi> thanks for the tip guys
[06:00] <mendred> where ur ssid SSIDNAME get it from windows
[06:00] <evievi> I appreciate
[06:00] <mendred> then do a iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed
[06:00] <mendred> with a sudo
[06:00] <pteron> mendred: Error : unrecognised wireless request "ssid"
[06:00] <mendred> ok ssid is a number
[06:00] <NiceGuyUK> essid not ssid I think
[06:01] <pteron> mendred: i cant paste 10 lines or so in a query to you?
[06:01] <mendred> ?
[06:01] <mendred> no
[06:01] <NiceGuyUK> !paste
[06:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:01] <mendred> NiceGuyUK: thanks
[06:01] <pteron> mendred:
[06:02] <pteron> pteron@pteron:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -l
[06:02] <pteron> lsbcmnds : driver installed
[06:02] <pteron> lsipnds : driver installed
[06:02] <pteron>         device (17FE:2120) present
[06:02] <pteron> wmp11nds : driver installed
[06:02] <pteron> pteron@pteron:~$ sudo iwconfig wlan0 ssid org
[06:02] <pteron> Error : unrecognised wireless request "ssid"
[06:02] <pteron> doh
[06:02] <NiceGuyUK> !paste | pteron
[06:02] <ubotu> pteron: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:02] <NiceGuyUK> ;)
[06:02] <pteron> sorry
[06:02] <mendred> pteron: instead of ssid try essid
[06:02] <pteron> I thought i pasted the url
[06:03] <morrison> ciao
[06:03] <pteron> mendred: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21303/
[06:04] <morrison> italiani ?
[06:04] <NiceGuyUK> !it | morrison
[06:04] <ubotu> morrison: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:04] <morrison> sorry
[06:04] <NiceGuyUK> its ok :)
[06:04] <mendred> pteron: ouch :)
[06:04] <evievi> what about flash9 from adobe?
[06:05] <lydia> nyonecan help me with ktorrent
[06:05] <NiceGuyUK> evievi: still no 64bit from them yet
[06:05] <evievi> and gizmo?
[06:05] <pteron> mendred: Are we out of options? :(
[06:05] <mendred> pteron: can u do a dmesg | tail and paste it there
[06:05] <fdoving> JuJuBee: like this? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kubuntu+Feisty+UserList++?content=56914
[06:06] <NiceGuyUK> pteron: do me a iwconfig paste too?
[06:06] <pteron> mendred: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21304/
[06:07] <pteron> NiceGuyUK: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21305/
[06:07] <NiceGuyUK> thx
[06:07] <JuJuBee> fdoving : thanks.  Why is this not built into kubuntu? Seems like  a standard request...
[06:08] <NiceGuyUK> pteron: is it a usb adapter or other?
[06:08] <fdoving> JuJuBee: it's on the TODO-list for gutsy.
[06:08] <JuJuBee> Ah.
[06:08] <JuJuBee> K
[06:08] <pteron> NiceGuyUK: no, pci (output from ndiswrapper http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21306/)
[06:09] <pteron> NiceGuyUK: Using 64bit Ubuntu
[06:09] <fdoving> anyone got some good wallpaper sites with 1440x900 res?
[06:09] <NiceGuyUK> ah, ndiswrapper. not used that myself, sorry
[06:10] <NiceGuyUK> fdoving: digitalblasphemy.com ?
[06:10] <pteron> Should I give up and dicth Ubuntu 64bit, and use 32bit instead?
[06:10] <fdoving> pteron: if you only want a regular desktop and don't have loads of RAM, yes.
[06:11] <NiceGuyUK> ah, just had a thought - I bet its trying to wrap 32 bit Win drivers, hence the issue
[06:11] <fdoving> NiceGuyUK: i'll check it out. been a while since i've visited it, thanks.
[06:11] <pteron> NiceGuyUK: Yes thats bin my problem, but there was someone who said the also were 64bit drivers, but i guess that wasnt true
[06:12] <NiceGuyUK> fdoving: also www.pixelgirlpresents.com
[06:13] <phoenixbyrd> whats the command to shutdown X?
[06:13] <pteron> What cons is there with 32bit on 64bit intel? Is it a big speed difference or when will i notice it?
[06:13] <NiceGuyUK> slight performance increase
[06:13] <pteron> decrease you mean
[06:13] <fdoving> pteron: it can address more RAM directly.
[06:13] <fdoving> .. the 64bit..
[06:13] <NiceGuyUK> 32 bit os on 64bit hardware faster than 32bit on 32bit I thought?
[06:14] <NiceGuyUK> its what I got
[06:14] <pteron> NiceGuyUK: it is?
[06:14] <NiceGuyUK> from benchmarks I've seen
[06:14] <NiceGuyUK> could be wrong though, I am occasionally :)
[06:14] <pteron> there is no diff in clockfreq?
[06:14] <mendred> pteron:  yeah just like win 3.1 ran faster on the pentium (16 bit on 32 bit)
[06:15] <NiceGuyUK> a 2.0ghz is still a 2.0ghz, if thats what you mean
[06:15] <pteron> NiceGuyUK: So dual core dosnt have anything to do with 32/64bit?
[06:15] <HymnToLife> no
[06:16] <HymnToLife> there are single core 64bits and dual core 32bits
[06:16] <skane> dobry den zdravim nevite nekdo prosimvas jak se da pridat do kubuntu anglicka klavesnice?
[06:16] <HymnToLife> !cz
[06:16] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[06:17] <pteron> Hmm...so the only problem is that i cant adress as much RAM. Will i notice that, or is it only when doing some crazy stuff?
[06:17] <dr_willis> Hmm. somthing ive always wondered about.. how can Adept Updater know theres 12 updates - then when i start it - the first thing that it needs to do is 'fetch a list of updates' (which i guess is apt-get update command)
[06:17] <NiceGuyUK> unless you have more than 4gb of RAM, probably not an issue
[06:17] <dr_willis> if it knows theres updates.. dident it allready fetch that list at an earlier time?
[06:17] <NiceGuyUK> dr_willis: update notifier running in the bakground probably
[06:18] <fdoving> dr_willis: yes, it did. but that's done once a day. there can be new updates since that list was downloaded.
[06:18] <dr_willis> fdoving, ok. that makes more sence then.
[06:18] <pteron> I think ill throw out the 64bit-version then and start leeching the 32bit. Thank you mendred and NiceGuyUK for you help, you guys rock
[06:18] <pteron> and fdoving :)
[06:18] <NiceGuyUK> sorry we didn't solve it for you
[06:18] <NiceGuyUK> time to go home now for me...
[06:18] <mendred> pteron: sorry boss
[06:18] <pteron> NiceGuyUK: dont worry, ill find some more problems
[06:18] <NiceGuyUK> lol
[06:18] <pteron> for you to solve :)
[06:18] <pteron> bye guys
[06:20] <muaddib> is there an ubuntu games channel?
[06:24] <Spon> Hi, my adept installer and adept manager are giving me an error saying that another process is using the packing system but i dont have any processes running
[06:26] <LjL> !adept crash fix | spon
[06:26] <ubotu> spon: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:28] <|ericsson|> Where do I turn of that bloody bouncing mouse cursor thingie? Drives me (more) nuts..
[06:29] <robin_> #ubuntu-fr
[06:29] <pag> |ericsson|, kcontrol -> Appearance -> Launch Feedback
[06:29] <blekos> help!!!, i installed kickoff, now i removed it i have no task bar!!!
[06:30] <|ericsson|> pag, you lost me already mate :) Where is kcontrol, can't find such a thing..
[06:30] <|ericsson|> pag: or is it "system settings"?
[06:30] <pag> |ericsson|, oh... try via system settings :) I always forget, that kcontrol isn't installed by default
[06:31] <|ericsson|> pag: thing is, there is nothing hinting towards "Launch Feedback" in there :(
[06:32] <pag> |ericsson|, that's exactly the reason, why I prefer kcontrol over Sys. Settings ;)
[06:33] <|ericsson|> pag: I'll throw in kcontrol and hopefull I'll get rid of all evil bouncy thingies
[06:33] <pag> |ericsson|, good idea :)
[06:33] <|ericsson|> pag: but on the other hand: kcontrol is already the newest version. So, where is that one then? ;)
[06:33] <pag> |ericsson|, alf+f2 ?
[06:34] <|ericsson|> pag: that means that it DOES come as default, did a fresh installation yesterday on one the machine from the official live cd..
[06:35] <pag> |ericsson|, ok. It just can't be found anywhere by default, which isn't good either
[06:36] <|ericsson|> pag: that is true, running it through terminal or 'run' does bring it up though
[06:39] <|ericsson|> By the way, when shutting down the system from X, it turns of the monitor as it would, but the system is running and tty's doesn't work. Anyone had this problem in feisty?
[06:43] <dr_willis> |ericsson|,  what video card was this?
[06:43] <|ericsson|> in this machine it's a radeon 9250 pro
[06:43] <dr_willis> with some of my ati based cards. the fglrx drivers  crash/go to a black screen when i log out.
[06:44] <dr_willis> i had to use the 'ati' driver  not 'fglrx'
[06:44] <dr_willis> the system isenthung. but X or the drivers are real confused/crashed. I canhit alt-ctrl-delete, (or alt-ctrl-F1) and type in blindly and make the system reboot. :)
[06:45] <|ericsson|> dr_willis: I'm running the standard 'ati' already, haven't gotten around to change it yet
[06:45] <dr_willis> hmm.. guess ya could try the fglrx drivers then.
[06:46] <|ericsson|> dr_willis: but wouldn't the tty's still work though? I mean if it's just X crashing?
[06:46] <dr_willis> my laptop withits x200 has the issue. not ttied the others.
[06:46] <dr_willis> the tty's 'work' but i cant see them either.
[06:46] <|ericsson|> dr_willis: I'll give it a try and switch drivers though, might be that which is causing the problem..
[06:48] <ubuntu__> heeelp ... somehow I keep having apt-get and startx deleted
[06:49] <ubuntu__> amongst other apps
[06:51] <NSCAD_Nathan> anyone know for a good howto on setting up FTP server in KDE?
[06:51] <|ericsson|> Are there any good all'round bencmark tests one could run?
[06:52] <haluzak> please people how can i install nvidia drivers on kubuntu 7.04?
[06:52] <dr_willis> hmm..setting up a ftp server. dosent really have a lot to do with kde. :)
[06:52] <dr_willis> haluzak,  read that nvidia page yet?
[06:52] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:53] <|ericsson|> NSCAD_Nathan: If you can't find anything on the ubuntu pages that tastes good, then try http://www.howtoforge.com
[06:53] <haluzak> i did but i can't find Restricted Devices Manager ... in system i can't find any administration
[06:54] <|ericsson|> haluzak: use your terminal and check the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually then
[06:54] <goku_ssj_4> the rdm is in gnome
[06:54] <phoenixbyrd> I'm having trouble here... I rebooted and now linux is telling me I don't have apt-get or an xserver, or whereis or lynx etc...
[06:54] <phoenixbyrd> wth happened?
[06:56] <drkns> hello friends
[06:56] <drkns> i need heelppp
[06:56] <dwidmann> with?
[06:57] <drkns> i am trying to use my film scanner and i installed vuescan software
[06:57] <goku_ssj_4>  haluzak: you can search for the drivers using synaptic
[06:57] <drkns> my problem is vuescan wont start
[06:57] <drkns> no problem with the scanner driver
[06:57] <soulrider> drkns: run it in a console and pastebin any errors
[06:58] <drkns> vuescan wont start
[06:58] <haluzak> thx i'll try
[06:58] <drkns> how?
[06:58] <goku_ssj_4> remember to install the ones for your kernal
[06:58] <dwidmann> drkns: open up konsole, type vuescan, press enter
[06:58] <phoenixbyrd> how do I mount the hard drive from the livecd?
[06:58] <drkns> command not found
[06:59] <dwidmann> hmmm, wonder what it's called then, also, I wonder if that's why it won't start
[06:59] <drkns> on the net it sayd donot use idescsi module but i dont think i have that module running
[07:00] <soulrider> drkns: type vue and press tab and see if it autocompletes
[07:01] <drkns> nope it doesnot
[07:02] <drkns> how can i check if i have idescsi module is running or not
[07:02] <dwidmann> looks like there isn't anything about vuescan in the ubuntu repositories. Perhaps the binary isn't in the $PATH
[07:02] <dwidmann> drkns: lsmod
[07:02] <drkns> this is a stand alone program i believe
[07:03] <mo0osah> are there any gui clients that update dns at dyndns.org?
[07:04] <dr_willis> mo0osah,  heh - i noticed that my router can do that. :)
[07:04] <dwidmann> drkns: if you navigate to where you have it, then type "sh ./whateveritsnameis" what does it say?
[07:04] <angasule> !flash
[07:04] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:04] <premier__> hello, I'm having trouble with some videos... It seems to have started since I installed medibuntu... anyway, I hear a lot of popping on the audio, and the video changes resolution randomly
[07:06] <drkns> ./vuescan: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[07:06] <dwidmann> interesting
[07:06] <drkns> thats what it said
[07:06] <mo0osah> dr_willis how do you check?
[07:06] <dwidmann> drkns: try using bash instead of sh
[07:06] <drkns> the previous version worled but now i upgraded and this problem
[07:07] <drkns> ./vuescan: ./vuescan: cannot execute binary file
[07:08] <drkns> this thin has no older version that i can find on the net as well and there seems no other filmscanning software either
[07:08] <dwidmann> drkns: how about just ./vuescan instead, with no sh or bash?
[07:08] <drkns> ./vuescan: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:08] <dwidmann> Jackpot!!
[07:08] <drkns> yup
[07:08] <muaddib> anyone install supermariowar?
[07:08] <drkns> so i need to install ???
[07:08] <dwidmann> install libstdc++5
[07:09] <drkns> damn thats some rescue man
[07:09] <drkns> thx i will try
[07:11] <dwidmann> muaddib: what is it? sounds interesting
[07:12] <muaddib> super mario deathmatch game
[07:12] <muaddib> http://smw.72dpiarmy.com/
[07:12] <muaddib> having trouble installing it though
[07:13] <drkns> dwidman your the man thx buddy it worked now
[07:13] <xazz_> boujour, je suis un debutant sous linux je viens d'installer Kubuntu, je voudrais savoir si quelqu'un a deja install une carte son en usb ? moi j'ai une tascam us 122 apparement les drivers seraient dans cette version de kubuntu 7.04 masi j'ai pas de son je n'arriv pas l'installer merci
[07:13] <Tm_T> !fr | xazz_
[07:13] <ubotu> xazz_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:13] <phoenixbyrd> kubuntu is telling startx isn't install, so I checked witht he live cd and it is there... what's wrong?
[07:14] <dwidmann> drkns: awesome
[07:14] <dwidmann> phoenixbyrd: try running "sudo updatedb && locate bin/startx"
[07:15] <drkns> dwidman one more challenge amule crashes when i start the networks download after several jumps of the rabbit
[07:15] <phoenixbyrd> from the live cd or from my install?
[07:15] <phoenixbyrd> nvm .. stupid question
[07:15] <dwidmann> drkns: erm, I've never used amule, but perhaps it'd give you more information if you ran it in a terminal
[07:15] <phoenixbyrd> will try, thanx
[07:16] <dwidmann> phoenixbyrd: from your install
[07:17] <andriana> hi] 
[07:17] <dwidmann> hi
[07:17] <goku_ssj_4> lo
[07:19] <snowdonkey> Hey guys.  Since switching to Feisty Fawn I can't burn CDs using K3b
[07:19] <snowdonkey> I get the message "OPC failed.  Probably the writer does not like the medium"
[07:19] <dwidmann> snowdonkey: get any errors? It say why you can't?
[07:20] <snowdonkey> "OPC failed.  Probably the writer does not like the medium"
[07:20] <goku_ssj_4> use different disks, that worked for me
[07:21] <goku_ssj_4> but double check that ur writer is selected
[07:21] <hakaisou> !backup
[07:21] <snowdonkey> Ok, will double check that.  1 sec
[07:21] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:22] <snowdonkey> Double checked I had the writer selected same error.  It's strange b/c I could burn fine using K3b in Dapper
[07:22] <Ayabara> what app is good for bluetooth communication with nokiaphones?
[07:23] <snowdonkey> And I'm using Sony CD-R discs on a Sony Vaio laptop
[07:23] <goku_ssj_4> ok thats the obvious sorted
[07:24] <drkns> dwidman may be you can suggest a better gnutella downloader??
[07:24] <dwidmann> snowdonkey: still probably worthwhile to try a different medium anyway
[07:25] <dwidmann> drkns: never really used gnutella, sorry
[07:25] <snowdonkey> Ok.  I'll see if I can pick up something.  Is there a brand you recommend?
[07:25] <dwidmann> drkns: if you want to try something else though, you can try "apt-cache search gnutella" and see what comes up
[07:25] <goku_ssj_4> drkns: have you tried frostwire
[07:26] <dwidmann> snowdonkey: not really, I think I've got memorex and philips sitting around my place, but I don't have the same drive or the same issue as you so I an't really say
[07:27] <snowdonkey> Alright.  Thanks for the help dwidmann & goku.  If I can't get it sorted I'll be back.  :)
[07:27] <FOAD> Someone please help: a few minutes after starting the kubuntu-desktop all gdk apps start segfaulting when I try to run them (before that it all seems ok). No such problem when booting ubuntu (on the same machine)?
[07:27] <goku_ssj_4> np
[07:28] <dwidmann> FOAD: odd
[07:28] <drkns> goku ssj nope but i will try
[07:28] <FOAD> And terribly annoying since I prefer KDE in general but I need some of those apps.
[07:28] <FOAD> Any ideas?
[07:29] <drkns> thx friends my juorney to the darkside is almost complete
[07:29] <drkns> the only thing left is my integrated webcam on my laptop
[07:29] <goku_ssj_4> drkns:if you use beryl youll have to switch to the kde window manager to get it to work prop
[07:29] <drkns> it does not work
[07:29] <drkns> i am on beryl
[07:30] <drkns> is that why amule is crashing?
[07:31] <goku_ssj_4> maybe, frostwire uses java for the gui and beryl doesnt play nice, so i wouldnt like to say
[07:31] <ForMatter> Helowww..
[07:31] <goku_ssj_4> lo formatter
[07:32] <dr_willis> FOAD,  try a new user with default kde/gnome settings.
[07:32] <ForMatter> I have EPSON printer,but i have attached the USB to the komputer..But,i still cant printing..
[07:33] <goku_ssj_4> are you using cups?
[07:33] <ForMatter> Whats that..
[07:33] <goku_ssj_4> common unix printing system
[07:33] <FOAD> I will.
[07:34] <ForMatter> How to use that..
[07:34] <goku_ssj_4> hang on ive got the linux bible out
[07:36] <opsidao> hi ppl
[07:36] <opsidao> i'm using 6.10, and i'm thinking on dist-upgrading to 7.04, any known issue I should know?
[07:36] <ForMatter> Where's everyone..?This forum feels quite..
[07:37] <ForMatter> Try to open the kubuntu site..
[07:38] <opsidao> ForMatter: that was far kinder than the usual rtfm ;)
[07:38] <ForMatter> Or,u can view the help in that site how to upgrading..
[07:38] <goku_ssj_4> formatter: start knoqueror and type localhost:631
[07:39] <goku_ssj_4> in the address bar
[07:39] <ForMatter> Wait a minute..
[07:39] <ForMatter> The result is error..
[07:40] <goku_ssj_4> its not installed then, you can install it using synaptic
[07:41] <ForMatter> Goku_ssj_:I dont have internet connection..
[07:41] <goku_ssj_4> dumb question: how you talking to me
[07:42] <ForMatter> Goku_ssj_4:i dont have sypnatic too..
[07:43] <lydia> anyone knows how to open MS .txt files?
[07:43] <goku_ssj_4> what linux you using
[07:43] <goku_ssj_4> lydia: use kate or gedit
[07:44] <ForMatter> Kubuntu 7.04
[07:44] <goku_ssj_4> same as and cups was installed as default.....strange
[07:45] <ForMatter> So,how to use that..
[07:45] <Jack3> how do i get  a file to resume when using wget?
[07:45] <goku_ssj_4> use what
[07:45] <ForMatter> Cups
[07:46] <opsidao> jaja, just 1275 packages to upgrade ;P
[07:46] <AcTpoHoM> rofl, and I complained about my 89 packages to get skype going :D
[07:47] <AcTpoHoM> oh, it was for NVidia :-D
[07:47] <goku_ssj_4> it loads at boot as a server so you can find it in any browser by going to "localhost:631" but if that doesnt work then you got me
[07:47] <goku_ssj_4> 1275 is that all
[07:48] <MegaVolt> the last 3 weeks i only had 3 packages to upgrade, shouldnt that be more?
[07:49] <phoenixbyrd> how do I stop X?
[07:49] <MegaVolt> strg + alt + backspace
[07:49] <phoenixbyrd> I wanna update NVidia
[07:49] <phoenixbyrd> doesn't that just restart it?
[07:49] <phoenixbyrd> and whats strg?
[07:49] <MegaVolt> kill kdm before that and it wont restart
[07:49] <MegaVolt> kdm / gdm / xdm
[07:49] <phoenixbyrd> ahhh ok
[07:50] <phoenixbyrd> tyvm
[07:50] <ForMatter> Goku_ssj_4:what i must doing if i want make my kubuntu be web server..
[07:50] <opsidao> phoenixbyrd: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop should do the trick all at one
[07:51] <goku_ssj_4> as in to host files
[07:51] <ForMatter> Goku_ssj_4:where's it..
[07:53] <goku_ssj_4> sounds like you need to install it. if you cant get it from the internet from that machine then grab it on the one your using and transfer the debs manually
[07:54] <ForMatter> Goku_ssj_4:where the site address..
[07:56] <ForMatter> Everyone,can u help me..I want my kubuntu be web server on my local network..How can i do..
[07:57] <ForMatter> So quite..
[07:58] <ForMatter> Where's everyone..
[07:58] <PhinnFort> here
[07:59] <PhinnFort> :D
[07:59] <ForMatter> Can u help me..
[07:59] <ForMatter> I want my kubuntu be web server on my local network..How can i do..
[07:59] <PhinnFort> ForMatter: have you installed apache?
[08:00] <ForMatter> How i get it..
[08:00] <PhinnFort> ForMatter: go to the K-Menu-> System -> Package manager (Adept)
[08:00] <PhinnFort> i think that should be it
[08:01] <PhinnFort> it might be named slightly differently, I'm using a Norwegian locale
[08:01] <PhinnFort> ForMatter: search for "apache2"
[08:01] <PhinnFort> or you might want to try "lighttpd", it depends on what you want your webserver to do
[08:02] <ForMatter> PhinnFort:i have EPSON printer,the usb cable was attached..But it cant work properly
[08:02] <PhinnFort> ForMatter: web server?
[08:03] <PhinnFort> !epson
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about epson - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <ForMatter> !cups
[08:03] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:03] <PhinnFort> !printer
[08:03] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:03] <PhinnFort> ForMatter: what is your problem?
[08:04] <ForMatter> PhinnFort:thanks,i think my problem was solved..
[08:04] <PhinnFort> good to hear
[08:11] <ninina> Hello
[08:12] <odommcdee_> hey
[08:12] <conax> Hi
[08:12] <conax> Ich bin neu
[08:12] <odommcdee_> sup everyone
[08:13] <conax> oh does anybody here speak german?
[08:13] <odommcdee_> nope
[08:13] <ninina> I seem to be having a small problem...I had to use ndiswrapper to get my wireless card working, and it is working as you can see, but I can't seem to you konquerer or kNetworkManager...
[08:13] <odommcdee_> konquerer should be working
[08:14] <ninina> s/you/use
[08:14] <ninina> It's giving me a cannot connect to server message
[08:14] <Alonea> ninina: I could not get knetwork manager to work at all on mine. I got rid of it...
[08:14] <odommcdee_> hmm.....well i am new to linux
[08:15] <Alonea> ninina: Oh! konqueror is probably looking at network manager (different from knetworkmanager) for connectivity and it is reporting that you are not connected. It did that to my Gaim program.
[08:15] <Alonea> ninina: though for web browsing I use firefox.
[08:15] <odommcdee_> i actually just install ubuntu over windows becuz it sucks
[08:15] <conax> how can I install programs like java?
[08:15] <ninina> Alonea: is there any way around that?
[08:15] <conax> I have kubuntu 6
[08:16] <Alonea> ninina: I removed knetwork manager and network manager and poof, all was happy.
[08:16] <odommcdee_> ive been trying to download java and other software with no luck
[08:17] <ninina> Alonea: Is there a replacement for their functionality?  Manually switching and entering keys all the time will not be fun
[08:18] <Alonea> ninina: you are on wireless right? I use Wireless Assistant. (or wlassistant, you can use adept to find it under that name)
[08:19] <ninina> Alonea: So I use adept to uninstall network Manager and KNetwork manager and install that instead?
[08:19] <Alonea> ninina: yeah, though do preview change at first to see if it gets rid of anything else. I THINK if you do purge instead of uninstall it wont uninstall the kde thing along with it
[08:20] <Alonea> ninina: though there is a later version of wlassistant online. would have to google it
[08:20] <Alonea> brb
[08:31] <fabbe> Lo guys
[08:31] <fabbe> iam kinda new to kubuntu but i just love it :D
[08:32] <ninina> I'm trying really hard to love it
[08:32] <fabbe> any 1 that could maybe help me with a fast question about beryl?
[08:33] <fabbe> when i activate beryl my minimize and maximize buttons just disaperas, and yes iam using emerald theme manager
[08:33] <fabbe> if i swith back to KDe to handle the windows it works fine
[08:33] <phnom> does the theme you use have the buttons?
[08:33] <andrewmin> fabbe: could be the graphics card driver
[08:33] <andrewmin> what driver do you have?
[08:34] <fabbe> i have the latest nvidia driver from their homepage
[08:34] <esben_> fabbe: I get that too. Makes Beryl a bit hard to use :)
[08:34] <fabbe> yes it does :)
[08:34] <PhinnFort> it could be just the fact that beryl is beta/buggy, and not ready for production use;)
[08:34] <fabbe> PhinnFort: ofc i know that, but would ne nice to get it work :)
[08:35] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:35] <esben_> Beryl is being merged into compiz. And anyway, the compiz features in the KWin_compiz branch will probably work better with KDE anyway
[08:35] <esben_> that's what I heard, anyway :)
[08:35] <fabbe> yes hope the job will be done soon :)
[08:35] <dragan> anyone experienced with mirrors and local repos?
[08:35] <esben_> dragan: With subversion? svk is the answer, but I havn't tried it yet. Supposed to work well, though
[08:35] <phnom> Anyone got any pointers on how to get my webcam to work? It's integrated in my acer aspire 5101...
[08:35] <PhinnFort> git ftw
[08:36] <esben_> Most other versioning systems support it out of the box
[08:36] <dragan> I have downloaded all 16BG with apt-mirror
[08:36] <dragan> bg=gb :-)
[08:36] <esben_> oh, that kind of mirror
[08:36] <dragan> yes
[08:36] <fabbe> i have read some post on the net about my problem... and some people says that some themes does not have those buttons... but i have tryed plenty of themes without succusess
[08:36] <dragan> now I want to use it
[08:37] <esben_> fabbe: Same here. The Aqaumarine theme should have buttons, but it doesn't. So you are not alone :)
[08:37] <dragan> I need help with sources.list
[08:37] <fabbe> esben ye it kida sucks :D
[08:37] <dragan> whole repo is on external drive in USB rack
[08:37] <esben_> fabbe: Beryl gets annoying after a few days anyway. I only turn it on for visitors these days :o)
[08:37] <ninina> why is it when I try to load something that needs sudo sometimes it just sits there and trys to load for a while and then vanishes rather then prompting me for my password
[08:38] <yallaxx> guys i need some help here.. i get grub error 21 when trying to boot..here is my menu.list and device map: http://pastebin.ca/493332 ,i installed ubuntu on sda10  i also got winxp on sda1 and vista on sda7, also i got a second hd sdb with 2 partitions on..i used to have ubuntu on that aswell
[08:38] <fabbe> esben hehe ye is eye candy i know :D
[08:38] <esben_> ninina: The loading thing is normal when the program just doesn't start.. KDE does a less than stellar job there. As to why... is it the same program always, or does it work on or off?
[08:39] <ninina> on and off
[08:39] <esben_> ninina: Does it prompt for password and then not start, or never prompt?
[08:40] <esben_> ninina: Sorry, you already said never prompt. Hmmm...
[08:40] <fabbe> well iam off :D
[08:40] <ninina> esben_: when it doesn't start, it doesn't prompt, when it does start it does prompt
[08:40] <fabbe> i will just skip beryl and w8 for compiz :D
[08:41] <esben_> fabbe: Welcome in the club. We got jackets ;)
[08:41] <fabbe> hehehe
[08:41] <frojnd> does anyone know from head for any tutorial how to isntall xp on feisty ?
[08:41] <frojnd> install*
[08:41] <fabbe> why install XP?
[08:41] <fabbe> its crap
[08:41] <fabbe> :D
[08:41] <esben_> better than Vista.
[08:41] <fabbe> for shure :D
[08:41] <esben_> or so I've heard
[08:41] <frojnd> cause linux crap since it doens't has bluetooth-alsa...
[08:41] <frojnd> so again
[08:41] <frojnd> anyone?
[08:41] <fabbe> vista with no drivers... gg
[08:41] <esben_> gotta go again
[08:42] <SlimeyPete> frojnd: install virtualbox, run it, then install XP from your XP CD/ISO. It might not be able to use bluetooth, though....
[08:42] <paolo> Hi all! have some problem with NumLock
[08:43] <frojnd> SlimeyPete: why not vmware ?
[08:43] <frojnd> SlimeyPete: or is virtualbox sub of vmware?
[08:43] <paolo> i cannot make it default on at startup
[08:44] <SlimeyPete> frojnd: vmware workstation cost money, last time I looked. You could usevmware server instead I guess, but I don't know how to do that. VirtualBox is a pretty decent, free, virtualization app.
[08:44] <frojnd> SlimeyPete: costs what one time serial?
[08:45] <ubuntu__> j
[08:45] <ubuntu__> idiot
[08:45] <SlimeyPete> frojnd: it costs quite a lot, I think. A couple of hundred pounds, maybe?
[08:45] <paolo> i think it's a /etc/X11/corg.conf parameter but i don't know what
[08:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> how can I reload my sound driver without restarting?
[08:46] <SlimeyPete> ah more like one hundred
[08:46] <SlimeyPete> frojnd: you can grab the free vmware player and hack that to make it install an OS of your choice, I think, but I've never done it
[08:46] <frojnd> SlimeyPete: aha
[08:46] <darkpr0phet> can anyone help me with a beryl question? i just installed that and emerald with synaptic..how do i actually get it to start? o.0
[08:46] <ubuntu__> moin
[08:46] <frojnd> so virtualbox..
[08:47] <dragan> there is wmvare server in repos
[08:47] <dragan> in restricted... if I recall correct
[08:47] <SlimeyPete> dragan: really? didn't know that
[08:47] <SlimeyPete> fer
[08:47] <ubuntu__> hallo
[08:47] <dragan> check repos... for feisty
[08:47] <ubuntu__> was geht
[08:47] <AFaith> hello mates
[08:47] <AFaith> huge
[08:47] <AFaith> problem
[08:47] <AFaith> with kubuntu
[08:48] <AFaith> dapper
[08:48] <AFaith> i wanna back it up
[08:48] <AFaith> using dd method
[08:48] <AFaith> i've seen this tutorial http://www.cpqlinux.com/ddbackup.html
[08:48] <AFaith> and i'm wondering
[08:48] <AFaith> if i use this method
[08:49] <SlimeyPete> AFaith: I don't know how to solve your problem but I do know that people will get annoyed if you keep hitting the Return key every few words
[08:49] <SlimeyPete> just a friendly heads-up :)
[08:49] <scheuri> vmware-server is NOT in the repos...only the kernel-modules, right?
[08:49] <fullidiot> nah also
[08:49] <fullidiot> geht doch
[08:49] <dragan> I saw something... at glance... I might be wrong
[08:49] <AFaith> i can backup only hda (the entire hdd) or i can set it up to backup just for my / partition (hda1)
[08:50] <fullidiot> deuche hier?
[08:50] <AFaith> sorry SlimeyPete... my bad, but i'm on a hurry... and i'm a bit nervous
[08:50] <dragan> you can backup just partition
[08:50] <dragan> dd if=source of=destnation
[08:51] <AFaith> dragan: it will also backup the MBR sector ?
[08:51] <dragan> yes.. it should
[08:51] <fullidiot> ehy deuche hier
[08:51] <AFaith> oh, that indeed a very good news...
[08:51] <dragan> dd is DiskDupe...
[08:51] <dragan> afaik
[08:51] <dragan> it duplicates content
[08:51] <BluesKaj> anyone with ati try Envy yet ?
[08:52] <AcTpoHoM> Hey I got a question... let's say a friend of mine tried to help me make my ntfs partitions writeable and messed their mounting at all, so they are currently not mounted
[08:52] <AcTpoHoM> any chance I can run something automated to remount? :>
[08:52] <AFaith> dragan: and if I want to restore my partition, i won't get nasty surprizes with dd and make my box not working (bootable)
[08:53] <AFaith> AcTpoHoM: edit /etc/fstab according ntfs-3g manual and then reboot :)
[08:53] <dragan> AFaith: no... no surprizes
[08:53] <AFaith> i see ...
[08:53] <AFaith> big thanks
[08:53] <AcTpoHoM> AFaith that's how we ruined it :-D
[08:53] <AFaith> hopefully i will get kubuntu feisty to run :D tonight :P
[08:53] <AcTpoHoM> oh well, gotta read the manual I guess :)
[08:54] <AFaith> AcTpoHoM: reading man files should be the first step :P
[08:54] <AFaith> btw, read also the FAQ on the projects web site :)
[08:54] <AcTpoHoM> I prefer doing it in the hard way :-D
[08:54] <AcTpoHoM> and yes, I'm pretty much reading (sometimes) :0
[08:55] <AFaith> big thanks dragan!
[08:55] <AFaith> i'm rebooting now :) wish me luck :)
[08:55] <dragan> NP AFaith
[08:55] <dragan> ;-)
[08:56] <dotbl0t> hi!
[08:56] <dragan> I need help with sources.list
[08:56] <dragan> I have downloaded all 16BG with apt-mirror
[08:56] <dragan> now I want to use it
[08:56] <dragan> whole repo is on external drive in USB rack
[09:00] <frojnd> what else do I have to install besice beryl package to run beryl on feisty ?
[09:01] <uga> anyone knows what daemon is the one automounting drives? it's pretty annoying and problematic
[09:01] <uga> it will completely screw up vmware for example
[09:02] <uga> and it will mount any drive I manually umounted
[09:04] <uga> uhmpf... and finally it renders the kernel unusable
[09:04] <uga> I cannot mount the device again once it goes wrong
[09:06] <Lynoure> uga: see http://docs.kde.org/userguide/multimedia.html
[09:09] <owca_> hi
[09:10] <SlimeyPete> hi
[09:10] <yallaxx> guys i need some help here.. i get grub error 21 when trying to boot..here is my menu.list and device map: http://pastebin.ca/493332 ,i installed ubuntu on sda10  i also got winxp on sda1 and vista on sda7, also i got a second hd sdb with 2 partitions on..i used to have ubuntu on that aswell
[09:13] <owca_> hi! where I could send bug?
[09:13] <alonea_away> ninina: Ihave better luck just doing kdesu programname in the Run command
[09:14] <ninina> ahh
[09:14] <SlimeyPete> owca_: go to launchpad.net/ubuntu and find the package you want to file the bug against
[09:15] <owca_> SlimeyPete: hmmm its problem with laptop cooler after resume after hibernate
[09:15] <vagabon2> Following forum advice I've gotten Kubuntu to recognize my wireless card and network, but when I try to connect to my network KNetMan hangs at 28% "configuring device".  Anyone have a similar problem and able to fix it?
[09:16] <SlimeyPete> owca_: hmm, tricky one. I'd file it against one of the power management packages eg acpi-support. If that's the wrong place then someone will move the bug.
[09:16] <vadya> vagabon2: what wifi card do you have?
[09:17] <vagabon2> Broadcom 1390 - I followed advice of this forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092&highlight=dell+wireless+1390
[09:17] <uga> Lynoure: sorry, I had a few probs with the machine to get usb devices working again... and even the kb is a usb one
[09:17] <uga> Lynoure: I'll check that, but I'm pretty sure it's not kde-specific. kde doesn't mount any devices by default on any of my other hand-built versions
[09:18] <sparrw> i have volume keys on my keyboard.  can i make the volume popup translucent, or non-centered, or something?
[09:18] <uga> unless kubuntu patched it to automagically do something...
[09:18] <BlackBsd> does the wireless in kubuntu use wpa_supplicant?
[09:18] <BlackBsd> if so i cant find the .conf file
[09:18] <vagabon2> Everything "appears" to be working, I just can't connect to my network - I was able to connect the same PC when running dapper (gnome desktop though)
[09:18] <Lynoure> uga: after checking you will kind of be even more sure.
[09:18] <BlackBsd> but wireless is working
[09:19] <lz1gjd> could anyone tell me how to check if some port / protocol is blocked on my kubuntu ? pls :)
[09:20] <Mo0oSaH>  in beryl when you go to top right click it brings all the windows together, how do you change it to some other corner of the screen
[09:20] <sparrw> lz1gjd: kubuntu doesnt 'block' ports or protocols.  it would just not be running a daemon on those ports
[09:20] <uga> Lynoure: the problem exists... I can confirm. The thing you pointed at is the standard kde behaviour
[09:20] <Mo0oSaH> !daemon
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daemon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <sparrw> Mo0oSaH: do you use beryl-settings-manager?
[09:21] <uga> Lynoure: a popup and ask what you want to do. This is about popup, ask what to do, I say nothing, and still mounts
[09:21] <Mo0oSaH> yes
[09:21] <sparrw> its in there somewhere...
[09:21] <vadya> vagabon2: you can't connect even if encription is off?
[09:21] <lz1gjd> i know its not kubuntu i used it just to justify asking in this channel :)
[09:21] <sparrw> im not running beryl right now
[09:22] <vagabon2> vadya: nope, my network doesn't have any security atm
[09:22] <uga> Lynoure: see, even vmware removes the device access, and kubuntu recovers it back
[09:22] <lz1gjd> i cant download almost anything in my dc clients, and suspect there must be something blocking them
[09:22] <uga> something is checking and automounting stuff
[09:22] <Lynoure> uga: I know, you asked what daemons, the page mentioned them, and some other stuff about it.
[09:22] <uga> Lynoure: ah thanks. If that's about kde services I know how to stop them
[09:22] <uga> but I wouldn't have said it's kde services doing that
[09:22] <amuls> hi, this is mu fisrt time in a IRC channel. I just installed feisty on a dell inspiron 9400. I was wondering how I can get the "cube" working?
[09:23] <Lynoure> uga: I did not answer how to exclude, as you did not ask and I do not yet know.
[09:23] <rothchild> @vagabon2 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=452203&highlight=knetwork+manager
[09:23] <Mo0oSaH> amuls install beryl
[09:23] <Neil-> anyone know why my system locks up (mp3s play, but num lock etc stop lighting up on keyboard) when i swap out of gui using ctrl-alt-f1, then back.. its a blank screen with just a cursor
[09:23] <Mo0oSaH> !beryl > amuls
[09:23] <amuls> i can not get that to work. Is there a xorg driver i have to install first?
[09:24] <Mo0oSaH> amuls, i have i6000 i didnt need any drivers.  If you installed ubuntu, "cube" is already there
[09:24] <Mo0oSaH> amuls, for kde you need to beryl.  What do you mean you can't get it to work... any details?
[09:24] <BlackBsd> has anyone got bluetooth working??
[09:25] <uga> Lynoure: it's easy to test. Put any drive in. The menu pops up, Asks what to do: mount, open, nothing... if you answer nothing and say okay, it still mounts
[09:25] <uga> something is buggy, and I cannot tell what
[09:25] <BlackBsd> i get a think on my laptop saying kbluetooth daemon is running
[09:25] <vadya> lz1gjd: maybe "sudo iptables --list" would help?
[09:25] <amuls> i install it and it just does nothin gdifferently. I can not see wobbly windows or a turning cube.
[09:26] <lz1gjd> vadya: thx
[09:27] <Lynoure> uga: ?? I'm not saying it does not happen
[09:27] <uga> Lynoure: it seems to be the kded service manager
[09:27] <uga> some patching done by kubuntu
[09:27] <vagabon2> rothchild: Huh, dhclient eth1 indeed works, but knetMan still shows me as disconnected, just as the guy in the forum describes - I don't know enough about what I'm doing to understand why that would be, but I can handle a terminal command to get connected, so thanks!
[09:28] <uga> Lynoure: sorry, kded media manager, I meant
[09:28] <Lynoure> uga: I'm not even a ubuntu-dev and bug reports go to Launchpad anyway
[09:28] <amuls> MoOoSaH: beryl and beryl-manager are installed, what more should i do
[09:28] <uga> Lynoure: okay, sorry. I thought you were
[09:28] <Lynoure> uga: And if you put an noauto for it into /etc/fstab ?
[09:28] <Lynoure> uga: any difference?
[09:28] <dragan> I need help with sources.list
[09:29] <dragan> I have downloaded all 16BG with apt-mirror
[09:29] <dragan> now I want to use it
[09:29] <dragan> whole repo is on external drive in USB rack
[09:29] <uga> Lynoure: the device isn't mentioned there. It's detected by hal
[09:30] <uga> Lynoure: ie, fstab doesn't specify where the device will go mounted. It's kde that mounts it under /media
[09:30] <Lynoure> uga: make a new line for it
[09:30] <uga> yes, the problem is the device isn't always the same
[09:30] <uga> sometimes it'll be sdb, some other times sdf...
[09:30] <uga> depending how many other usb fs devices are plugged
[09:30] <mrwizrd> hey everyone
[09:31] <rothchild> I thought it was something to do with the wallet manager asking for passwords at the same time as knetwork manager should be asking for the wpa password
[09:31] <uga> Lynoure: anyway, I stopped the kded media manager service from kcontrol and now I can control it fine
[09:31] <uga> it just shouldn't do this. Not sure what happens
[09:32] <_Shade_> hi
[09:32] <Neil-> anyone know why my system locks up (mp3s play, but num lock etc stop lighting up on keyboard) when i swap out of gui using ctrl-alt-f1, then back.. its a blank screen with just a cursor...
[09:33] <_Shade_> can anyone tell me please why I can't browse any website using konqueror in 7.04?
[09:33] <uga> Neil-: Ive seen the same thing when using a second xorg session
[09:33] <uga> Neil-: are you on nvidia binary drivers too?
[09:33] <Mo0oSaH> amuls just run beryl-manager
[09:33] <Neil-> Yeah :)
[09:34] <Neil-> It seems to only do it in beryl.. things arent perfect without tho, I can't resume from hibernate on this system either..
[09:34] <Neil-> suspend* rather
[09:34] <amuls> MoOoSaH: i did run beryl-manager, and then what? nothing visual is happening?
[09:34] <Neil-> gives me the same blank screen mentioned above
[09:34] <uga> Neil-: I haven't tested, but if you go for the nv driver the problem may go
[09:35] <uga> (although you'll miss any acceleration)
[09:35] <Neil-> I can't use the nv driver :( X just starts, and it goes all corrupted
[09:35] <uga> oh, too bad
[09:35] <Neil-> Bit lame really :D
[09:35] <mrwizrd> is there a specific channel for virtualisation related issues?
[09:36] <Mo0oSaH> are you sure you have all the beryl packages?
[09:36] <uga> Neil-: you could try with the latest beta driver from nvidia too
[09:36] <amuls> MoOoSaH: not at all, I have done apt-get install beryl beryl-manager
[09:37] <_Shade_> as you can see i've manage to connect to the internet, so why i can't browse any websites?
[09:37] <Neil-> Cool, how would I get hold of that? At the moment I'm using nvidia-glx from the repositories.. its a 7800GT
[09:37] <_Shade_> only the websites' icons show up and that's all
[09:37] <Mo0oSaH> amuls what kind of graphics card do you have?
[09:38] <uga> Neil-: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.03.html
 : Have you tried any other browsers?
[09:38] <amuls> MoOoSaH: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400
[09:38] <Mo0oSaH> that's good
[09:38] <Mo0oSaH> amuls try this:  sudo apt-get install emerald-themes
[09:38] <Neil-> uga: Aren't there issues with messing with both nvidia-glx and the nvidia binaries?
[09:38] <Neil-> Don't want to break anything =d
[09:38] <Mo0oSaH> amuls i think you didnt install any theme manager for beryls
[09:39] <amuls> Mo0oSaH: emerald-themes is installed
[09:39] <uga> Neil-: if you don't want to take risks, better keep what kubuntu gives you, heh
[09:39] <_Shade_> mrwizrd: i cant because i'm on a live session now, and i have my harddisks unpluged :) if i try to dl firefox my kubuntu locks up
[09:39] <amuls> Mo0oSaH:  as beryl-manager
[09:39] <owca_> SlimeyPete: thanks, I reported bug, have nice evening :)
[09:39] <Mo0oSaH> amuls when you run beryl-manager do you get the diamond in the tray?
[09:39] <Mo0oSaH> or nothing happens at all
[09:39] <amuls> Mo0oSaH: no
[09:39] <_Shade_> *unplugged
[09:40] <uga> Neil-: there was some site explaining how to avoid the nvidia binary setup  to get overwritten by ubuntu packs... but I cannot recall where
 There's no way you can get back into a regular session?
[09:40] <amuls> Mo0oSaH: it is there when i run it from a shell, not from th emenu. So now I have got iit
[09:40] <Neil-> uga: Thanks for your help :d
[09:40] <uga> np
[09:41] <Mo0oSaH> amuls does it seem to work now
[09:41] <_Shade_> mrwizrd: not now because i have broken an ata connector ;/
[09:41] <amuls> Mo0oSaH: still nothin, the diamond is there but I see nothing visual changing eg when I change desktop
[09:41] <Mo0oSaH> amuls: if not then right click the diamond and make sure beryl is selected as windows manager
[09:41] <_Shade_> mrwizrd:  i have to use livecd
 Ouch... sucks..
[09:42] <mrwizrd> brb
[09:43] <amuls> Mo0oSaH: when in select the beryl as the window manager, than the screen redraws but nothing happens. If I check on the windowmanager it is still kwin
[09:44] <amuls> Mo0oSaH: i get these errors
[09:44] <amuls> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:44] <amuls> Checking for non power of two texture support   : failed
[09:44] <Mo0oSaH> amuls tbh i have no idea what those mean
[09:45] <sergiomr> quit
[09:45] <Mo0oSaH> amuls if the screen redraws the beryl is trying to work but for some reason it crashes.  try to uncheck the fallback window
[09:45] <Mo0oSaH> if beryl crashes
[09:46] <mrwizrd> can anyone help me with a virtualisation problem i'm having?
[09:46] <Mo0oSaH> mrwizrd just ask the question
[09:46] <mrwizrd> okay.. so
[09:46] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[09:46] <mrwizrd> I'm trying to run Live Messenger
[09:46] <mrwizrd> using the methods shown at
[09:47] <rysiek|pl> did anyone get Logitech Bluetooth Wireless Hub to work under (k)Ubuntu? I have connected it, the mouse works AOK (I didn't test the keyboard yet, though), but it doesn't show as a bluetooth hub O_o' hciconfig -a shows nothing, google's silent
[09:47] <mrwizrd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization
[09:48] <chuan> hey guys
[09:48] <rysiek|pl> when I connect some other Bt dongle, I get a msg "New Bluetooth device connected" almost instantly
[09:48] <mrwizrd> and.. I can't get host-only networking to work
[09:49] <mrwizrd> I tried it in VMware first
[09:49] <jkolling> any good roooms to chat in?
[09:49] <mrwizrd> i'm looking at trying Qemu#
[09:50] <mrwizrd> also, is there a way to get read/write access to my existing xp installation inside the VM?
[09:50] <j03z0r> anyone want to chat?
[09:50] <uga> mrwizrd: you could smbmount the drive if you share it
[09:51] <uga> mrwizrd: at least that works in vmware, so it should under qemu too, I guess
[09:51] <rysiek|pl> j03z0r: uhm... try some off-topic channel
[09:51] <rysiek|pl> too late :)
[09:51] <mrwizrd> I have chat logs from september or so last year
[09:51] <mrwizrd> and i'd like to keep them coherent
[09:52] <mrwizrd> which is why i'm trying to keep Live Messenger
[09:52] <yallaxx> hm..is there a other bootloader i can install from within vista or xp?
[09:52] <mrwizrd> It's all I want, so if I can get that and my eyetoy cam working, i'm blowing xp away and running those apps in a seamless vm
[09:54] <mrwizrd> forget that problem for now, actually
[09:54] <mrwizrd> anybody here have an eyetoy camera working under 7.04?
[09:55] <Alonea> mrwizrd: nope..i wish I did though
[09:56] <mrwizrd> I had it working under 6.06
[09:56] <mrwizrd> with an older version of the source
[09:57] <mrwizrd> but the newer one... doesnt seem to work for me
[09:57] <mrwizrd> it's missing ov519_decomp.ko
[09:57] <Solifugus> Is there a way to install a .deb package such that it automatically installs all the required dependencies?
[09:58] <Solifugus> Isntead of tell me that they are not installed.
 : how far did you get?
[10:00] <mrwizrd> The guide i found asks for two modules, and the updated tarball only has one of them
[10:00] <mrwizrd> so... only the microphone seems to work
[10:03] <Solifugus> seriously.. kubuntu has no way of automatically dealing with package dependencies?!
[10:04] <raul> hola
[10:04] <trpr> Solifugus: apt-get handles the dependencies automatically.. what are you trying to do?
[10:05] <dragan> I need help with sources.list
[10:05] <dragan> I have downloaded all 16BG with apt-mirror
[10:06] <BluesKaj> Solifugus: I found a trick that seems to work. After trying to install a pkg in the cli that lacks some deps , i open synaptic and it auto detects what was needed as a broken pkg and will install
[10:06] <dragan> now I want to use it
[10:06] <dragan> whole repo is on external drive in USB rack
[10:06] <trpr> BluesKaj: hey not a bad idea. i wonder how it can be done from apt. seems sort of silly a work around like that is required :\
[10:07] <BluesKaj> it worked with tovid and some others
[10:09] <sercik> !ntfs-3g
[10:09] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:12] <mrwizrd> Alonea, I just got the eyetoy working in 7.04!
[10:12] <mrwizrd> audio and video
[10:12] <cox377_> anyone use headless azureus or the web admin?
[10:15] <lab10> Hello, Halo, Hola
[10:15] <lab10> ???
[10:17] <lab10> Somebody??????????????'
[10:17] <mrwizrd> what's wrong lab10?
[10:18] <vbgunz> can someone help me understand. I installed "ubuntu-restricted-extras gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg" and cannot play wmv files or any DVD :(
[10:18] <NiceGuyUK> !codecs
[10:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:18] <NiceGuyUK> vbgunz: that info above should help
[10:19] <vbgunz> thanks, it seems I need libdvdcss2 for DVD but trying to figure out wmv
[10:19] <NiceGuyUK> !plf
[10:19] <ubotu> The Penguin Liberation Front is dedicated to distributing software that cannot be included in Linux distributions for various reasons - See http://plf.zarb.org/ (not yet fully functioning) - See also !Medibuntu and !Seveas
[10:19] <NiceGuyUK> vbgunz: dvdcss stuff from the above :)
[10:20] <NiceGuyUK> wmv too probably - use the w32codecs package from there
[10:21] <leiar> i've reset the root password sudo passwd root, and I seem to have forgotten it. What do i do?
[10:21] <vbgunz> so what are these for "ubuntu-restricted-extras gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg"?
[10:22] <NiceGuyUK> leiar: just do sudo passwd root again ;)
[10:22] <leiar> NiceGuyUK: I am not a sudouser, nor the local user is...
[10:22] <NiceGuyUK> vbgunz: those are other plugins that are restricted, but not quite *as* restricted as the others
[10:23] <gianny> i have am error installing ati driver on feisty
[10:23] <NiceGuyUK> leiar: how you end up like that in Ubuntu?
[10:23] <gianny> i have this error: Error running install command for fglrx
[10:23] <NiceGuyUK> leiar: or are you trying to do something you shouldn't on someone else's box? ;-)
[10:23] <gianny> anyone can helpme?
[10:24] <leiar> NiceGuyUK: I'm not sure. My goal was to prevent the local user to do installations, I changed the root passwd and removed the local user from sudoers
[10:24] <NiceGuyUK> !root
[10:25] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:25] <NiceGuyUK> might be something in there
[10:26] <Fenix|work> Greetings... I've got a beryl/skydome question.  My skydome is coming up white.  My image is 2048x512 and xwinfo says max XvImage size is 2048x2048 ... what am I missing?
[10:26] <Fenix|work> xvinfo sorry
[10:26] <sercik> hi
[10:27] <sercik> someone know how to mount a ntfs without sudo??
[10:27] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: quick answer is to add "users" to the fstab entry for that partition
[10:28] <NiceGuyUK> more detailed help in a minutre when I finish looking somethign up for someone :)
[10:28] <sercik> Hi NiceGuyUK i have added user i remember user
[10:28] <sercik> now i try with users
[10:28] <Solifugus> trpr: I am trying to install a program called "Referencer".. I downloaded their ubuntu package for feisty fawn, which is what I am running.. "apt-get -f install ..." also tells me it has unmet dependencies.. shouldn't it just get those, too?
[10:28] <sercik> "/dev/sda1       /media/usbhd    ntfs-3g  user,defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0"
[10:29] <sercik> NiceGuyUK: do you think is ok??
[10:29] <Solifugus> trpr: This package http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=790
[10:29] <BluesKaj> is virtual box more versatile and useable than qemu ?
[10:30] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: permissions on the mountpoint ok too ?
[10:30] <NiceGuyUK> leiar: can't find the answer in my big sysadmin book, sorry
[10:30] <sercik> i have noticed that when i mount partition automatically the owner became root
[10:30] <sercik> now i have changed user to users
[10:31] <NiceGuyUK> what about the umask ?
[10:31] <sercik> and seems working THANK YOU
[10:31] <NiceGuyUK> ah, ok
[10:31] <NiceGuyUK> :)
[10:31] <sercik> now i have another problem
[10:31] <NiceGuyUK> I wish #kubuntu had karma points for ansering questions :-D
[10:31] <sercik> i want to share that hd with samba
[10:31] <dragan> NiceGuyUK: can you help with local mirrored repo setting?
[10:31] <sercik> i have added to share but from other pc can't enter inside it
[10:31] <BluesKaj> sercik: dl and install 'ntfs-config' and you can set user permissions etc with it
[10:32] <sercik> i have already installed ntfs-config
[10:32] <sercik> the problem is samba and not ntfs-3g i can't browse HD
[10:32] <monzie>  one doubt:
[10:32] <BluesKaj> the run it on your ntfs partition...you also need ntfs-3g
[10:32] <NiceGuyUK> dragan: sorry, not done that in Ubuntu yet.  Did it in Gentoo before
[10:32] <monzie> is /bin/sh in kubuntu 7.04 actually bash?
[10:33] <dragan> darn
[10:33] <sercik> BluesKaj: i have already done all that
[10:33] <monzie> is /bin/sh in kubuntu 7.04 actually bash?
[10:33] <sercik> don't you see the line above
[10:33] <sercik> the only problem now is samba
[10:33] <Sanne> monzie: I remember reading it got changed to dash
[10:33] <dragan> I need help in setting sources.list for that local repo
[10:33] <monzie> Sanne: i saw that.. what is dash?
[10:34] <Sanne> monzie: another shell, as I read (I'm still on dapper, so I can't check)
[10:34] <NiceGuyUK> dash - shell optimized for speed
[10:34] <NiceGuyUK> zsh is better
[10:34] <NiceGuyUK> dragan: you tried www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror
[10:34] <NiceGuyUK> ?
[10:34] <sercik> Someone understand this?? 7307: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)
[10:34] <monzie> Sanne: what is it on dapper?
[10:35] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: remote share doesn't exist?
[10:35] <sercik> i have tried to mount with smb4k from the same pc that share
[10:35] <Sanne> monzie: I think it's bash
[10:35] <dragan> NiceGuyUK: nope... I will now :-) 10x
[10:35] <NiceGuyUK> np
[10:35] <NiceGuyUK> I try to help in here, but people should really make more use of Google.  That's how I find info to pass on here ;-)
[10:36] <dragan> ahhhh that.... yes... I have used first part... downloading with apt-mirror
[10:36] <Sanne> monzie: here's a bug about that, I think it got introduced with edgy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dash/+bug/61463
[10:36] <Valmarko> Hi. I'd like to upgrade to Kubuntu 7.04 but I dont know how. Any help, please ?
[10:37] <dragan> but I want to use those files... WITHOUT apache... like say DVD...
[10:37] <hitmanWilly> !upgrade | Valmarko
[10:37] <ubotu> Valmarko: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[10:37] <Sanne> monzie: yup, /bin/sh points to /bin/bash on dapper
[10:37] <sercik> NiceGuyUK: now i can umount as user but i can't mount
[10:37] <Valmarko> hitmanWilly, thanks
[10:37] <hitmanWilly> np
[10:37] <sercik> the problem is ntfs-3g??
[10:38] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: nope, its probably just config
[10:38] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: you got a umask on that fstab entry ?
[10:38] <NiceGuyUK> !umask
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <sercik> no
[10:38] <sercik> i have pasted the line before
[10:38] <sercik> i can past again.........
[10:39] <sercik> "/dev/sda1 /media/usbhd ntfs-3g users,defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0"
[10:39] <NiceGuyUK> add umask=0 to give everyone permissions
[10:39] <BluesKaj> sercik: ' sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt ', then ,' sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount '
[10:40] <NiceGuyUK> BluesKaj: +s is SetUID ?
[10:40] <dragan> NiceGuyUK: yes I have used that... and done first part.. downloaded whole repo... but I want to use it without apache... so the path for it will not start with http://localIP but file:///media/whatever...
[10:41] <NiceGuyUK> not sure if it supports that
[10:41] <sercik> Uff! if i do mount usbhdthe directory not mounts and no errors i see
[10:41] <sercik> simply nothing
[10:42] <BluesKaj> it's not particularly secure , NiceGuyUK, but for a samll home network behind a router , it should be ok .
[10:42] <NiceGuyUK> yeah, I guess
[10:42] <NiceGuyUK> ok, time to spend less time with Linux, more time with fiancee....see ya tomorrow guys!
[10:43] <dragan> !mirror
[10:43] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[10:43] <dragan> !repo
[10:43] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:43] <dragan> !apt-mirror
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-mirror - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <dogatemycomputer> !apache
[10:46] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:47] <Valmarko> umm... I have Kubuntu 6.10, with the latest updates but I still cant upgrade to 7.04. No 'full upgrade' button active. Do I need to include something in repos manager?
[10:47] <Valmarko> The version of kde is 3.5.5
[10:48] <Valmarko> 'edgy-updates' are enabled
[10:50] <Fenix|work> I'm using Feisty Fawn... after doing updates my sound stopped working... how do I fix it?
[10:50] <Valmarko> I enabled edgy-backports and edgy-security too
[10:50] <Fenix|work> worked with a fresh install
[10:51] <thehound> Hello have quick question
[10:52] <userund> go
[10:52] <thehound> I had to downgrade xserver and now adept keeps wanting to upgrade me
[10:52] <thehound> any way to shut it up?
[10:52] <Valmarko> The problem is solved :) I needed to fetch updates again, after reboot. :)
[10:54] <thehound> I'll rephrase. I'm asking how to opt out of an update permenently
[10:54] <thehound> the new xserver kills my drivers
[10:54] <crimsun> thehound: use dpkg/aptitude to put the package(s) on hold.
[10:55] <thehound> on hold?
[10:55] <thehound> never heard of that
[10:55] <thehound> I did lock in synaptic
[10:57] <Valmarko> What is the latest version of KDE currently available on 7.04 ?
[10:57] <crimsun> Valmarko: stable? 3.5.6.
[10:58] <Valmarko> crimsun, thanks
[10:59] <voidmage> how's support for geforce 8600?
[10:59] <chx> w says 2 users but only lists one user and as far as I am aware , only I am logged in
[10:59] <usuario> oi
[10:59] <usuario> Tem algum a???
[10:59] <usuario> Hello???
[10:59] <warez__> slt a tous
[11:00] <usuario> Que???
[11:00] <usuario> Oq vc disse???
[11:00] <usuario> Eu no entendi!
[11:00] <usuario> Fala de novo!
[11:00] <usuario> Rpido... fala logo!
[11:00] <usuario> Eu t esperando!!!
[11:00] <usuario> Ser que tem algum a pra falar comigo???
[11:00] <usuario> Eu no vai ter ningum???
[11:00] <usuario> Puxxxaaaa...
[11:00] <dthacker> is there a utility that will convert .ogg files to mp3?
[11:00] <usuario> ...algum est lendo minhas mensagens???
[11:00] <usuario> Tem algum a???
[11:00] <usuario> Fala comigo!
[11:01] <usuario> Fala logo!
[11:01] <Valmarko> crimsun, suppose I want to test the alpha version of kde 4, without removing 3.5.6. Is it possible ?
[11:01] <usuario> MP3???
[11:01] <crimsun> Valmarko: perhaps.  nixternal  /may/  have alpha1 debs ready.
[11:01] <usuario> Convert MP3 to WMA???
[11:01] <Valmarko> thank you again, crimsun
[11:02] <Fenix|work> After upgrading from a fresh install sound stopped working, what do I need to do to fix it? Does it have to do with alsa and a new kernel?
[11:02] <usuario> I like of convert MP3 to WMA!!!
[11:03] <dthacker> and there was much rejoicing....
[11:03] <crimsun> Fenix|work: probably.  More likely it's a stale state file.  Please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.
[11:06] <Fenix|work> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/493589
[11:07] <crimsun> Fenix|work: amixer set 'External Amplifier' mute
[11:08] <Fenix|work> crimsun, nothing
[11:08] <Fenix|work> do I need to restart the sound system?
[11:08] <crimsun> Fenix|work: ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav'' is inaudible?
[11:09] <Fenix|work> crimsun, yes
[11:09] <DonMCN> hey every body
[11:10] <DonMCN> can you lead me to some directions on how i would go about partitioning my kubuntu partition into a smaller one so that i can put windows on that new one
[11:10] <Fenix|work> crimsun, playback channels: Mono, Mono: Playback [off] 
[11:10] <Fenix|work> does that mean no sound is playing with mono?
[11:10] <DonMCN> i only have kubuntu on my pc right now, and the hard drive is under 2 partitions, linux and swap
[11:10] <BluesKaj> crimsun: try this tuorial, it helped me,  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)
[11:10] <crimsun> Fenix|work: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer*);sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}')&&sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state&&sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[11:11] <DonMCN> i want to edit the Linux partition to be a smaller one so that i can install windows
[11:12] <DonMCN> Can somebody just lead me to a Partition Manager inside of Kubuntu?
[11:12] <cpk1> DonMCN: try qtparted or gparted
[11:12] <BluesKaj> DonMCN: download , install and burn GParted Live CD partition editor...it's the best  and most stable
[11:12] <DonMCN> In the Konsole?
[11:12] <Cugel> donmcn: only the gparted live cd seems to work for me.
[11:12] <cpk1> DonMCN: sure, if you want its a gui so it will open one up
[11:12] <Fenix|work> crimsun, now what? :)
[11:12] <cpk1> a window that is
[11:13] <DonMCN> I need something that will run off of my existing Kubuntu, I do not have any blank CDs at the moment.
[11:13] <crimsun> Fenix|work: same aplay command
[11:13] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, going to buy a new laptop, one of these days, comebody can tell me where to find a list of Linux-frienly components ?
[11:13] <flami> Hi , I tried Knetworkmanager but it doesnt seem to recognize my wlan card ( eth0) its a intel 2915 agb , anywhere where i could look up what might be the problem ?
[11:14] <cpk1> DonMCN: qtparted or gparted
[11:14] <flami> the wlan works though ( i wouldnt be in here without ^^ )
[11:14] <HymnToLife> AutoMatriX, anything should do, prefer a nvidia graphics card
[11:14] <cpk1> qt uses the qt libraries (kde) and g uses gtk libraries (gnome) either will work
[11:14] <DonMCN> Alright, thanks. I am in the middle of downloading qtparted right now from Konsole using "sudo apt-get install qtparted".. thank you :)
[11:14] <Fenix|work> crimsun, nothing
[11:15] <crimsun> Fenix|work: repaste your amixer
[11:15] <AutoMatriX> HymnToLife:  nvidia has got a better support than the ati's ?
[11:15] <Fenix|work> run that script again?
[11:15] <Fenix|work> ok
[11:15] <leiar> I have to load two modules in order to get my wireless card to work. I've put them in /etc/modules. But it seems they do not start. modprobe ipw2100 and modprobe fsam700
[11:15] <Fenix|work> give me a sec
[11:15] <HymnToLife> much better
[11:15] <crimsun> Fenix|work: no need, just ``amixer''
[11:16] <AutoMatriX> HymnToLife: tx, I'll take note of that
[11:18] <Fenix|work> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/493616
[11:18] <lupul> hi there
[11:19] <rojanu> Hi! I am having problems with my AR5005G atheros card
[11:19] <lupul> does anyone know why if i enable guarddog konversation doesn't connect anymore on kubuntu irc channel?
[11:19] <crimsun> Fenix|work: ok, and toggling 'External Amplifier' has no effect?
[11:19] <lupul> i selected the protocol, i added the 8001 port but nothing
[11:19] <Fenix|work> I toggled like you said and nothing
[11:19] <Fenix|work> did I toggle wrong?
[11:19] <crimsun> Fenix|work: try toggling it again
[11:19] <Fenix|work> cmd?
[11:19] <crimsun> off -> on
[11:19] <Sanne> AutoMatriX: there's also this, in case you haven't found it already: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryHardware
[11:20] <crimsun> amixer set 'External Amplifier' unmute
[11:20] <dogatemycomputer> hey.. is there by any chance a gui for apache2?   I assume most web admins actually configure it themselves manually?
[11:20] <DonMCN> Alright I just downloaded and install QtParted, and now I cannot open it by using command qtparted in the "Run Command" dialog or in Konsole using the same command.
[11:20] <flami> if you want a gui for apache you might want to try ispconfig , or syscp
[11:21] <raylu> dogatemycomputer, there may be some third party ones
[11:21] <flami> its little "helpers" that help administer the server
[11:21] <AutoMatriX> Sanne: tx so much, THAT was exactly I was looking for :D
[11:21] <raylu> DonMCN, kdesu
[11:21] <Sanne> AutoMatriX: heh, you're welcome :)
[11:21] <dogatemycomputer> flami: would you suggest buying the book and doing it manually as a good learning experience?  or do most web admins use the gui?
[11:21] <DonMCN> Okay raylu, I went to Run Command and typed in "kdesu qtparted" and that didn't work.
[11:21] <Fenix|work> crimsun, nothing
[11:22] <raylu> you don't need a book to configure apache...
[11:22] <raylu> DonMCN, what did it do?
[11:22] <raylu> (I suggest running it in a konsole)
[11:22] <flami> dogatemycomputer, yes you need to know how apache works
[11:22] <dogatemycomputer> raylu: honestly.. the documentation on apache's website isn't very intuitive for a newbie..
[11:22] <flami> the gui is just to speed things up , the hardest part is to make it secure ( e.g. chroot )
[11:22] <raylu> unless you have no experience with this at all, you should do what I do and just go in and poke around
[11:23] <dogatemycomputer> flami: then I shall figure it out manually..
[11:23] <raylu> the worst case scenario is you screw up apache...
[11:23] <Fenix|lappy> crimsun, I'm at a loss
[11:23] <DonMCN> Okay I went through Konsole, and typed in kdesu qtparted and it brung up a little thing that says "Getting devices" and disappears.
[11:23] <flami> if you screw up : aptitude purge apache2 && aptitude install apache2
[11:23] <lupul> ok so what do i do to let konversation through guarddog?
[11:23] <thehound> sorry had to run. But anyways, is there no way to tell adept to stop trying to upgrade specific packages? I pressed version lock in synaptic
[11:24] <thehound> but it still bugs me with the red !
[11:24] <dogatemycomputer> raylu: i have *zero* experience with apache and i'm also relatively new to linux.. ;)  i just want some documentation before I get started.   I'm trying to understand not only the 'how' but the 'why' so i'm hoping some decent reading material (beyond the FAQ) will give me some insight.    If you have a good web resource then i'm all for that too..
[11:24] <lupul> what do i do to let konversation through guarddog?  please
[11:26] <DonMCN> Oh well I finally got qtparted to open, but it won't let me do anything to it because the status is "busy"
[11:26] <cpk1> try gparted =P
[11:26] <DonMCN> Can I use the partition manager on the Linux CD?
[11:26] <flami> dogatemycomputer,  if you want a good MTA : postfix ;) good antispam : amavisd-new ( with postfix + clamav ) ^^
[11:27] <cpk1> or if you are feeling good about yourself you can try parted =D
[11:27] <cpk1> DonMCN: sure
[11:27] <leiar> I'm trying to start two modules in boot by putting them in /etc/modules. It doesn't seem to work. I think it is because you have to be root to run them. Any suggestions?
[11:27] <crimsun> Fenix|lappy: conf call ATM
[11:27] <DonMCN> okay. and i have another quick question. is there a way i can make it so that Windows boots up by default instead of Kubuntu after I install it?
[11:28] <raylu> donMCN, /etc/grub/menu.lst
[11:28] <cpk1> yes
[11:28] <Fenix|lappy> crimsun, k
[11:28] <dthacker> dogatemycomputer: look the postfix howto for ubuntu server on http://www.howtoforge.com
[11:28] <lupul> what do i do to let konversation through guarddog? pls pls
[11:28] <cpk1> DonMCN: just to let you know installing windows is going fsck grub up anyways so read up before you do
[11:28] <DonMCN> okay, and now that i think about it. when i'm going to install windows, its going to put in a new boot record and it will only load windows and won't give me a choice. how do i change this?
[11:29] <raylu> you can boot into the linux live cd and reinstall grub after installing windows
[11:29] <leiar> These laptops with kubuntu on are to be used by teachers. I don't want to instruct them to go into konsole write sudo modprob ipw2100 ....
[11:29] <thehound> is there a link for what I'm trying to do? I been to Google over and over
[11:29] <cpk1> !grub | DonMCN
[11:29] <ubotu> DonMCN: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:29] <thehound> useless information
[11:29] <DonMCN> well, thank you very much :)
[11:29] <cpk1> DonMCN: make sure you are educated before you do it so you arent in a panic =)
[11:29] <Valmarko> I'm not a programmer I dont mean to criticize but ... adept manager is so confusing. It could have a much better and intuitive interface. Just a suggestion
[11:29] <leiar> anybody who can help me getting modprobe ipw2100 and modprobe fsam7400 to start at boot?
[11:30] <wsjunior> kmail don't ask the phrase for decipher encrypted e-mails, is it a know problem?
[11:30] <thehound> yeah the red ! is my problem
[11:30] <thehound> with adept
[11:30] <thehound> and see nothing to exclude updates
[11:30] <Fenix|lappy> crimsun, brb in 5min
[11:30] <thehound> synaptic has a version lock
[11:30] <cpk1> I know aptitude will let you hold versions
[11:30] <thehound> how do I do it?
[11:31] <thehound> I typed "ubuntu putting packages on hold"
[11:31] <thehound> in Google
[11:31] <flami> leiar,  cant you just write a bashscript that runs the 2 commands ??
[11:31] <thehound> I think adept runs off aptitude
[11:31] <raylu> not if they require root access
[11:31] <raylu> i think he'd have to put it in one of the rc scripts
[11:32] <leiar> flami: I've put them in /etc/modules , so they should be launched in boot, but it sems you have to be root to run them
[11:33] <cpk1> thehound: aptitude hold i think will do it
[11:33] <leiar> flami: If i make a bashscript. Where do I put the scipt to get it launched during boot
[11:33] <thehound> ok I'll give it a go
[11:33] <Fenix|lappy> crimsun, back
[11:33] <cpk1> thehound: if its  a specific version you dont want you can use forbid-version
[11:33] <lupul> does anyone know a very good firewall?
[11:34] <cpk1> lupul: iptables
[11:34] <wsjunior> kmyfirewall
[11:34] <thehound> well xorg 7.1 works with latest ati drivers
[11:34] <thehound> 7.2 crashes the whole system
[11:34] <thehound> and can only use vesa
[11:34] <lupul> thanks
[11:34] <lupul> something more simple?
[11:34] <raylu> leiar, ~/.kde/Autostart
[11:34] <lupul> i ment simpleer
[11:35] <flami> leiar,  update-rc.d FOO defaults   http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[11:35] <cpk1> leiar: you could probably just put them in /etc/rc.local
[11:35] <raylu> thehound, which ati driver are you using?
[11:35] <thehound> proprietary
[11:35] <thehound> it's a must
[11:35] <raylu> so...try the other one?
[11:35] <thehound> with my card
[11:35] <thehound> the open drivers crash xserver
[11:35] <raylu> oh.
[11:35] <chijin> thehound: are you by any chance using 1280*960 res?
[11:36] <wsjunior> How to make kmail decrypt encrypted emails? It seems that it isnt using gpg-agent daemon..
[11:36] <raylu> hm. i had the opposite
[11:36] <thehound> no 1024x768
[11:36] <leiar> wow, thanks all three. I'll try etc/rc.local, because I want them to be executed for all users
[11:36] <raylu> wsjunior, is using Kmail a must?
[11:37] <leiar> It seems I have to be root to run modprobe, how do I change that?
[11:37] <wsjunior> raylu: no, but i would like to
[11:37] <DonMCN> I tried to open up /etc/grub/menu.lst and it says No such File or Directory
[11:38] <cpk1> leiar: rc.local should run it all as root
[11:38] <cpk1> DonMCN: its in /boot not /etc
[11:38] <DonMCN> Oh, earlier somebody gave me /etc/grub/menu.lst lol
[11:38] <raylu> leiar, why would you want to?
[11:38] <raylu> oh, sorry DonMCN :(
[11:39] <leiar> raylu: because I've a problem with the wireless device. It won't load unless i start these two modules
[11:39] <DonMCN> No problem
[11:39] <DonMCN> But /boot/grub/menu.lst is very confusing. I'll probably screw something up trying to make Windows boot by default.
[11:40] <raylu> DonMCN, one of the lines says "default 0"
[11:40] <raylu> IIRC. actually, let me check
[11:40] <leiar> DonMCN: I think the lines you are looking for is the last lines
[11:40] <cpk1> DonMCN: keep in mind that a lot of the lines that have # arent actually commented out
[11:40] <DonMCN> default		0
[11:40] <DonMCN> ?
[11:41] <thehound> it somewhat worked. red triangle but none are in list
[11:41] <raylu> yeah, that's correct. just change it to whichever one is Windows
[11:41] <thehound> 1 more thing
[11:41] <thehound> if I ever want to undo this hold what do I need to do?
[11:41] <raylu> but you should install Windows first, DonMCN
[11:41] <thehound> say ati fixes their software
[11:41] <DonMCN> yes I know
[11:41] <DonMCN> I'm just exploring.
[11:41] <DonMCN> and how will I know which one Windows will be?
[11:42] <DonMCN> because after I install Windows, I will have to restore GRUB, I know that, but then I will open up this file and no nothing about how to change Windows to default bootup.
[11:42] <raylu> well...hopefully, you're not just randomly partitioning and installing to random partitions...
[11:42] <DonMCN> No, I know good how to work partitions and such
[11:42] <DonMCN> but I'm very new still to Linux
[11:43] <raylu> the number after default refers to the number of the entry in the menu.lst
[11:43] <raylu> the first one for me (0) starts with: title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic
[11:43] <raylu> the second one (1) starts with: title		Windows XP (loader)
[11:43] <raylu> so if i wanted windows to be default, i'd change the value to 1
[11:43] <DonMCN> Okay, can you tell me where I can paste my menu.lst file for you to take a look at?
[11:44] <raylu> !pastebin
[11:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:44] <cpk1> DonMCN: the channel topic has a link
[11:44] <raylu> but i think you should worry about it after installing windows
[11:44] <lupul> halo
[11:44] <Ahmuck> i am looking for an alarm clock on kde.  something i can set the time for 30, 10, 30, 10, etc.
[11:44] <Daisuke_Ido> best bet is using savedefault, that way it will default to whatever you used last
[11:44] <DonMCN> Paste URL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21344/
[11:45] <raylu> what's 30, 10, Ahmuck?
[11:46] <DonMCN> Alright raylu, I will install Windows, and then fix GRUB and then I will come back here, and repaste my menu.lst and will you help me with it?
[11:46] <raylu> yes...if I'm still here.
[11:46] <Ahmuck> 30 min, 10 min, 30 min, etc.
[11:46] <wsjunior> Do i need to install/start anything than gpg-agent --daemon to make kmail to be able to ask for pass to decrypt encrypted messages?
[11:46] <raylu> fixing grub is a rather simple matter, so it shouldn't be hard to find help with that
[11:46] <DonMCN> I already know how to fix GRUB :)
[11:47] <raylu> Ahmuck, you mean on ever 30th and 10th minute?
[11:47] <raylu> *configuring
[11:47] <raylu> *every
[11:47] <Ahmuck> raylu: yes
[11:47] <Ahmuck> alternating
[11:47] <DonMCN> I'm thinking about just Installing windows, by letting it take over everything, and then reinstalling Kubuntu. Just in case.
[11:47] <DonMCN> So I don't get lost, because I had Windows before.
[11:48] <raylu> that would be a rather large waste of time
[11:48] <DonMCN> I know, but it makes it easier for me to understand things.
[11:48] <raylu> Ahmuck, I suppose it's possible to do it yourself with a crontab
[11:48] <DonMCN> and let's me do things in an order in which i'm comfortable with
[11:48] <raylu> er...how does letting the kubuntu install script configure everything make you understand it?
[11:49] <DonMCN> what i'm doing is letting Windows take over the entire drive when I'm installing it, and then after I install windows (and update) I will install Kubuntu, but I will manually partition things in the Kubuntu
[11:49] <raylu> Ahmuck, have you tried kalarm?
[11:50] <Ahmuck> i'll try it
[11:50] <raylu> but you already have kubuntu installed...
[11:50] <DonMCN> yeah I know lol
[11:50] <raylu> so...don't do it...
[11:50] <DonMCN> Its hard to explain it makes things easier for me lol
[11:50] <Ahmuck> DonMCN: partition windows, /home / and /swap
[11:51] <leiar> DonMCN: I think it is wise. Linux let other os stay alive on the machine. Windows is not that kind. Start with windows to make it easier
[11:51] <raylu> put it another way; this is not a good learning experience
[11:51] <raylu> but he's already started with kubuntu...
[11:53] <DonMCN> Once I get all this done, my way, is there a way I can dual-boot Kubuntu and Windows?
[11:53] <purpleposeidon> agh, need help
[11:54] <purpleposeidon> there was a power outage...
[11:54] <purpleposeidon> and now a bunch of crap is happening
[11:54] <raylu> DonMCN, yes...of course
[11:54] <purpleposeidon> I can't login w/ neither xdm or kdm
[11:55] <AutoMatriX> purpleposeidon: restore power first :D
[11:55] <purpleposeidon> when it starts up, it says something like 'file truncated to 0 bytes, > 0'...
[11:55] <purpleposeidon> I have. :b
[11:55] <Fenix|lappy> crimsun, just to let you know... I rebooted, now sound works.
[11:56] <Ahmuck> anyone using joomla on kubuntu?
[11:56] <purpleposeidon> AutoMatriX: this is IRC, not india.
[11:57] <Fenix|lappy> anyway... time to go home... thanks again for all your help crimsun.  It's appreciated
[11:57] <AutoMatriX> purpleposeidon: I know, but I think you shouldt tell that to your computer, to be sure :p
[11:58] <purpleposeidon> ah, a temporary solution has hit me in the head with itself.
[11:59] <leiar> Here's my problem (challenge): I'm a computer assistant on three scools. I want to give the teachers latops with Kubuntu, but I dont want them to be able to install software. How do I prevent them from being a sudo user? Can I just change the root password?
[12:00] <raylu> you could just edit the sudoers file
[12:00] <Dragnslcr> You could create a login for them that isn't in the sudoers file
[12:00] <raylu> changing the root password does nothing since sudo refers to your own password
[12:00] <raylu> or what he said :P
[12:00] <ubuntu__> Ok need help. Firewall hosed ubuntu, and now I'm on my live cd, question: How to back up files?
[12:00] <raylu> copy...paste?
[12:00] <ubuntu__> Kubuntu, sorry.
[12:01] <Dragnslcr> I'm impressed that a firewall could break an operating system
[12:01] <ubuntu__> Ah, nope. Cannot access HDD, in fact, don't know how to locate.
[12:01] <ubuntu__> Thought it was hda1
[12:01] <marko_> anyone here cracked hd dvd
[12:01] <ubuntu__> This thing sees it as /dev/sda1
[12:02] <ubuntu__> This is Kubuntu 7.04
[12:02] <raylu> ubuntu__, so mount that..
[12:02] <raylu> (my hda1 and 2 magically became sda1 and 2 in 7 also
[12:02] <raylu> )
[12:02] <purpleposeidon> well, I think I found a problem.... ran out of space on /home
[12:03] <lupul> can someone help me please?
[12:03] <lupul> how do i connect via openssl to kopete?
[12:03] <Dragnslcr> raylu- are they SATA drives?
[12:03] <ubuntu__> well, no response.
[12:03] <Ninina> Hello~!
[12:03] <lupul> how do i transfer the image to the computer i'm on?
[12:03] <raylu> no. it's a laptop with 1 hd, afaik
[12:03] <raylu> and they were hda before
[12:04] <raylu> lupul, that makes no sense. ssl to kopete? you mean ssl to the machine running kopete and dcop it?
[12:04] <ubuntu__> so the run command is kdesu mount /dev/sda1?
[12:04] <Dragnslcr> Edgy may have mounted SATA drives as hd* (just guessing)
[12:04] <lupul> yes
[12:04] <Ninina> does anyone know about the error that causes KNetworkManager stall at 28% when connecting to a wireless network?
[12:04] <raylu> ubuntu__, no, sudo
[12:04] <purpleposeidon> maybe a restart will make happyness
[12:05] <komakino> Hi! Just trie dto install kubuntu 7.04m but when booting up the live CD i get the error message "no greeter widget plugin loaded" or something like that. Very few hits on google, so i thought i should try here. I guess something with KDE. Any ideas?
[12:05] <Dragnslcr> lupul- you could install a VNC server
[12:05] <raylu> perhaps. there is a docking station with a bay for a second HD, so I suppose it _may_ be sata
[12:05] <lupul> but can't i do it from ssl?
[12:05] <lupul> at work i'm using putty. and from time to time i have to connect to my pc
[12:05] <purpleposeidon> lupul: I think there's something like x-connection forwarding...
[12:05] <raylu> oh yeah...so the new wirelessmanager in feisty is totally worthless...anyone know of a way to go back to the edgy one?
[12:05] <ubuntu__> That did it!
[12:05] <purpleposeidon> I dunno, though. I just heard of it
[12:06] <raylu> lupul, see if kopete has dcop support
[12:06] <lupul> ok
[12:06] <ubuntu__> *whew* thanks!
[12:06] <lupul> thanks anyway
[12:06] <komakino> anyone?
[12:06] <raylu> komakino, have you tried the safe graphics mode?
[12:07] <Dragnslcr> komakino- sounds pretty strange. Could be a bad download or burn
[12:07] <komakino> raylu: Yes, gives a different error...
[12:07] <K-Ryan> Can someone help me set this up? http://doom.chaosforge.org/
[12:07] <leiar> is there a progamme in kubuntu to scan for wireless access points?
[12:07] <genii> snort
[12:07] <komakino> Drgnslcr: where can i get the md5 checksum?
[12:07] <K-Ryan> In the readme it says something about a doomrl_konsole command to start it, I've tried the command alone, while in the directory, nothing.
[12:08] <Dragnslcr> komakino- the mirrors usually have them. What version do you have?
[12:08] <komakino> Or is it possible to install without loading the live gui?
[12:08] <komakino> 7.04
[12:08] <Dragnslcr> komakino- CD or DVD, i386 or amd64?
[12:08] <Yorokobi> komakino, the Alternate install CD is probably what you need
[12:08] <raylu> the alternate cd has a text install
[12:08] <komakino> oh, sorry. its a CD i386
[12:09] <komakino> Damn, just used my last cdr
[12:09] <komakino> So its not possible to intall in text mode om the regular?
[12:09] <Yorokobi> leiar, kwifimanager I believe
[12:10] <leiar> Yorokobi: Thanks I'll try
[12:10] <Dragnslcr> komakino- http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/kubuntu/feisty/MD5SUMS
[12:11] <snowdonkey> Hey guys.  I'm having some trouble with blank discs.  When I put a blank CD-R in my comp I don't get an option to mount the drive, and I can't burn to it from K3b
[12:11] <komakino> Dragnslcr: Thanks. Got the right checksum on the iso. Probably a bad burn then. Last cdr so i have to wayt a couple of days. Bummer.
[12:12] <Dragnslcr> komakino- keep asking around here, maybe someone has an actual answer. That error message doesn't look like anything to do with hardware, and the only software problem I can think of on an install disc is a bad burn
[12:12] <Ahmuck> i'm confused on mysql login usage on kubuntu ... "sudo mysql" drops me right in, however, "mysql -h localhost -u sudo" causes "Access denied".  Is there something special here i am missing ?
[12:13] <Ahmuck> leiar: yes
[12:13] <genii> Ahmuck: mysql cannot be run in root