=== OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.218.127.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #launchpad === OGDA is now known as BFTD === johnc4510 [n=johnc@ip68-231-136-42.tc.ph.cox.net] has left #launchpad ["Ex-Chat"] === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #launchpad === jordi_ is now known as jordi === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db443cc.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === freet15 [n=freet15@124.64.106.227] has joined #launchpad === merriam__ [n=merriam@85-211-245-180.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === lionel_ [n=lionel@ip-61.net-82-216-103.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #launchpad === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@ubuntu/member/welshbyte] has joined #launchpad [02:52] good evening [02:52] how do i get emailed all bug activity related to a particular ubuntu package on launchpad? [02:55] welshbyte: on hte main bugs page for the package [02:55] something about bugmail settiongs [02:55] Hobbsee: thanks [02:56] did you find it? [02:57] yup, tick boxes under the bugmail settings, thanks :) === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #launchpad [03:46] New bug: #115148 in rosetta "problem with the "show" filter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115148 === jml [n=jml@125-236-193-95.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === jordi [n=jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === elmo [n=james@83-216-156-21.jamest747.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === atoponce [n=aaron@oalug/member/atoponce] has joined #launchpad === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #launchpad === bdmurray [n=bdmurray@mylar.outflux.net] has joined #launchpad === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad === Odd_Bloke [n=oddbloke@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #launchpad === welterde [n=welterde@trujillo.srv.pocoo.org] has joined #launchpad === guerby [n=guerby@gut75-4-82-235-162-148.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #launchpad === putt1ck [n=putt1ck@ip148.net173.community.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.174.62] has joined #launchpad === freet15 [n=freet15@124.64.106.227] has joined #launchpad === mpt_ [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #launchpad === jjesse [n=jonathan@adsl-75-37-101-105.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad [05:12] i have created a bzr branch for keep documentation on launchpad, when i commit it do i have to do anything to get launchpad to show my changes? [05:35] jjesse: push it to launchpad [05:35] radix: bzr push? [05:35] jjesse: within a couple minutes after pushing to launchpad, it should show up in code and codebrowse [05:35] jjesse: yes [05:35] jjesse: or you can register it so launchpad will pull from somewhere else that you've published it [05:36] radix: i already have it registerd on launchpad [05:37] https://code.launchpad.net/~jjesse/keep-doc1 [05:39] https://code.launchpad.net/~jjesse/keep/keep-doc1 [05:39] that's the right link [05:39] purjjesse@hudson:~/public_html/keep$ bzr push [05:39] Using saved location: https://launchpad.net [05:39] bzr: ERROR: http does not support mkdir() [05:40] New bug: #115158 in blueprint "Information blueprints shouldn't need a priority" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115158 [05:40] jjesse: when you're pushing to launchpad, you need to use sftp://. [05:41] jjesse: so, something like sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jjesse/keep/keep-doc1 [05:41] hmm ok how do i fix it, sorry this is my first time hosting on launchpad [05:41] assuming 'keep' is the project and 'keep-doc1' is the name of your branch. [05:41] And, this is assuming you've set up our SSH key on launchpad. [05:41] radix: i have setup my ssh key and also keep is the project keep-doc1 is the name of my bracnh [05:41] thanks for being so helpful [05:41] no worries. [05:42] is there a .bzr file or something were that is saved? [05:42] jjesse: where what is saed? [05:42] where what is saved? [05:42] the http location? [05:42] jjesse: oh. yes, it remembered where you got the branch from, and tried pushing it back. [05:43] jjesse: here's a hint: pass --remember to push, like "bzr push --remember sftp://..." and then later you only need to say "bzr push" to get it to push to the same place. [05:43] ok thanks again [05:45] oh cool, its now shoing my changes [05:45] that's awesome [05:47] great :) === radix falls asleep. good night! [05:47] good night thanks again [05:47] thanks, later. === bdmurray [n=bdmurray@mylar.outflux.net] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.15.55.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === mdke [n=matt@80-47-174-84.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.174.62] has joined #launchpad === jordi [n=jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === elmo [n=james@83-216-156-21.jamest747.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === atoponce [n=aaron@oalug/member/atoponce] has joined #launchpad === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #launchpad === Odd_Bloke [n=oddbloke@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #launchpad === guerby [n=guerby@gut75-4-82-235-162-148.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #launchpad === brussel [n=brussel@cpe-72-130-172-213.san.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === elmo_ [n=james@83-216-156-21.jamest747.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Odd_Blok1 [n=oddbloke@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #launchpad === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #launchpad === welterde [n=welterde@trujillo.srv.pocoo.org] has joined #launchpad === indraveni [n=indraven@203.129.255.178] has joined #launchpad === jordi_ [n=jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #launchpad === Odd_Blok1 is now known as Odd_Bloke === atoponce [n=aaron@oalug/member/atoponce] has joined #launchpad === mpt__ [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #launchpad === putt1ck [n=putt1ck@ip148.net173.community.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad === mpt_ [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #launchpad === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.222.150.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #launchpad === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.1.138.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad === allenap [n=gavin@212.233.38.227] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has left #launchpad [] === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad === putt1ck [n=putt1ck@ip148.net173.community.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === mtaylor is now known as mtaylor|away === fernando1 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-f7fe0131c433d1e6] has joined #launchpad === harrisony [n=harrison@r220-101-77-68.cpe.unwired.net.au] has joined #launchpad [09:11] does anyone in here have an idea on how i can see every bug i have touched in launchpad? [09:12] I don't think that's possible currently [09:13] damn! trying to find good bugs ive worked on in lp and cant find em, oh well ill just have to try and remeber them === Fujitsu throws a work-blocking OOPS-502A304 into the channel. [09:13] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/502A304 === freet15 [n=freet15@124.64.106.227] has joined #launchpad [09:19] Fujitsu: I'll check it in a few minute when it gets uploaded from the appserver === carlos_ [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad [09:22] morning [09:22] jamesh: I managed to work around it a couple of minutes after I mentioned it in here. It occured when I attempted to change various aspects of an Ubuntu task, while in the context of the Debian task. When I changed to the Ubuntu task, it worked fine. === carlos_ is now known as carlos [09:23] Fujitsu: ah. It's a timeout. Looking at the log, I'm not sure how repeatable it is [09:23] I repeated it 3 or 4 times. [09:25] what I mean is that there is one db request that was waiting on a lock til it timed out [09:25] Ah. [09:25] OK. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad [09:28] Fujitsu: it most likely means that some other process had a lock on the record, and your request was waiting for the lock to be released [09:28] probably one of our background jobs [09:29] OK, thanks. [09:30] hiya [09:30] Hi Hobbsee. === freet15 [n=freet15@124.64.106.227] has joined #launchpad [09:31] :) === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad [09:59] interesting discussion on the ML [09:59] mdke: having to use a real name, and the fear/annoyance of doing so, is *very* seriousl [09:59] -l === mwhudson [n=mwh@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === mwh [n=mwh@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === kiko [n=kiko@canonical/launchpad/pdpc.supporter.active.kiko] has joined #launchpad [10:16] stylesheet broken on launchpad? [10:17] hiya kiko [10:18] http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/screenshots/Screenshot_Launchpad_Mozilla_Firefox is that just me ? [10:20] popey: No [10:20] nope === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === mrevell [n=matthew@canonical/launchpad/mrevell] has joined #launchpad [10:31] \o/ fix0red === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad === jonathank [n=jonathan@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === Yannig [n=yannig@AToulouse-157-1-29-66.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad [11:16] Hello everybody :) === jelmer_ [n=jelmer@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad [11:45] New bug: #115194 in rosetta "can't export .mo file in software-properties for catalan translations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115194 === dpm [n=dpm@p54A11124.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #launchpad === tokj [n=tk@151.82.7.88] has joined #launchpad === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [12:00] hmm, is there a way to get to the package queue page from the ubuntu lp page? [12:03] hi, what's the correct way to import translations from the gnome translation project (GTP) which have changed after the Feisty release? === bigjools [n=ed@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad [12:03] what I've been doing on a module basis is 1) get the (newer) translation from the GTP, 2) get the (older) translation from Rosetta 3) msgmerge 4) Upload the resulting file as a 'User upload' 5) After receiving the e-mail confirmation of a successful import, upload the same file again, but as a 'Published upload'. [12:04] I do step 4) because it is the only way to overwrite the strings in Rosetta. Then I do step 5) because it is my understanding (I was told on this channel) that in this way the status of all strings gets reverted to 'Published upload', as it should be for gnome packages. [12:04] However, I wanted to check if this is correct or if there is an easier way, since this is a tedious process (you have to upload translations twice and wait several hours until confirmation of the import to do the second upload) === kiko_ [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === mwhudson [n=mwh@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #launchpad === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.1.138.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad [12:26] dpm: if you want to undo any change done in Rosetta that is different from what official GNOME has [12:26] dpm: what you did is a good workaround to some missing functionality we have [12:27] dpm: usually, if you upload it directly as a published file, the translations in Launchpad/Ubuntu that matches the one in GNOME will follow any change done in GNOME [12:28] and if there is any untranslated, Launchpad will activate automatically the one coming from GNOME === zwnj [n=zwnj@194.225.70.226] has joined #launchpad [12:30] carlos: no, that's why I started doing steps 4) and 5). I noticed that if I only upload as published the newer strings from gnome were not replaced in Rosetta [12:30] for already translated strings [12:31] dpm: please, subscribe to https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/60029 so you know when you could stop doing it that way [12:31] Launchpad bug 60029 in rosetta "Should always be possible to view/revert to upstream translation" [Medium,Confirmed] [12:31] once we fix that bug, you could do a direct upload as 'published' and then select to revert changes in Launchpad [12:32] and the system will do it for you automatically [12:32] carlos: I was already subscribed :) [12:32] ok ;-) [12:34] carlos: in any case, just to be sure: until the bug is fixed, the correct (and only) way to do this is the procedure I've described before (i.e. steps 4 and 5), isn't it? [12:37] dpm: it's a workaround, yes [12:37] not really what should be done, because you are not supposed to have to do it [12:38] but the only way to do that until the bug is fixed [12:38] ok, thanks, I understand. I'll keep doing this with a clear conscience, then ;-). [12:40] carlos: may I reproduce the log of this conversation on our Translation Team Wiki [12:40] ? [12:40] just for the reference for other translators on the team === bac is now known as bac_afk === mwh [n=mwh@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad [12:46] sorry I got a phone call [12:47] dpm: sure, you can, but add also a note saying that we don't support that so if someone breaks something doing that, we cannot promise to be able to revert it [12:50] carlos: ok, thanks. I'll add that (scary) note. In any case, from a technical point of view there shouldn't be any breakage, shouldn't it? It is nothing more than the usual upload procedure, albeit twice (and having waited for the first import to have been completed). [12:51] dpm: technically, is safe, but if you do any mistake in the external process and provide broken data, we don't have a way to detect that and block such action [12:52] that's why we don't document that procedure as it's working as a side effect of the way the system works [12:52] not because we wanted to cover such use case [12:52] I understand, I'm just asking to be sure of what I'm doing [12:54] carlos: but that (to provide broken data) can always happen, even if you do a single (user or published) upload, can't it? What I mean is, there is nothing particular in the, let's call it "upload twice" procedure, isn't there? [12:56] indeed, but with normal work flow, you don't need to do a msgmerge and get two file together and change most of the metadata we have in our database === godenjan [n=godenjan@58.217.163.250] has joined #launchpad === godenjan [n=godenjan@58.217.163.250] has left #launchpad [] [12:57] if you change only launchpad translations or published translations, there is a chance to fix some breakages, doing the procedure you described, you change everything so it's harder to undo [12:57] dpm: I'm not against doing it that way, I'm just pointing that you should be careful ;-) [12:57] I will be against doing it once we provide you with the required tools so you don't need to do it anymore === jcs [n=jcspray@dot1x-132.net.ed.ac.uk] has joined #launchpad [12:58] Hi there, what's the usual turnaround time on processing the translation template for a new project? [12:58] yes, I understand, it is only a temporary workaround. I'll stress that on our team's wiki. [12:59] carlos: thank you very much for your support [12:59] dpm: you are welcome [12:59] jcs: it depends on how busy are we, (usually a lot...) [01:00] jcs: but I could approve it for you right now if you tell me the project we talk about [01:00] I'm talking about launchpad.net/referencer (trunk) [01:02] carlos: I actually uploaded templates twice, once for the 1.0 branch and once for trunk -- the 1.0 was a mistake, but I couldn't see a way to undo it [01:02] I'm kind of feeling my way with launchpad, trying to figure out what it can do for me. [01:02] I have a translator with an allergy to subversion :-0 [01:02] jcs: If you look in the translation import queue you can delete templates (if they've not been imported) [01:02] jcs: you can remove it from the queue: https://translations.launchpad.net/translations/imports/+index?target=products&status=NEEDS_REVIEW&type=pot&start=0&batch=75 [01:03] jcs: we are working to provide an import queue per product so you don't lose in all projects imports and only see the ones you are interested on [01:03] thanks, done. [01:03] carlos: That'd be great. [01:04] oojah: it should be done at the end of this month [01:04] That's good to hear. === mpt_ is now known as mpt [01:06] jcs: It's approved, the messages should be available soon, once the import script handles that request [01:07] carlos: great, thanks a lot. [01:07] jcs: please, update https://launchpad.net/referencer to note that you are using Launchpad Translations service [01:07] jcs: you are welcome [01:07] future updates for that template will be approved automatically === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has left #launchpad ["http://mpt.net.nz/"] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad [01:14] would changing the name of my LP page mess with my @ubuntu.com email? === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #launchpad [01:19] Good Morning Vietnam ! [01:20] gnomefreak: hmm, I think you should ask on #canonical-sysadmin [01:21] I'm not sure how is handled that case === bac_afk is now known as bac === tokj [n=tk@151.82.7.88] has joined #launchpad === yann2 [n=yann2@ip148.net173.community.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [01:24] carlos: ty === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad [01:25] hi there :) [01:28] yann2: hi === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [01:29] is the code for answers.launchpad.net available somewhere? [01:30] it's part of launchpad application [01:30] is it possible to install it alone? [01:30] but it's not available to download [01:30] yann2: please see https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/faq 'Is Launchpad open source? Will it be?' [01:31] so there is actually no way I can use the code fron aswer for my company? [01:31] yann2: use launchpad.net is the only one [01:31] carlos > i heard it would ne possible to get the sourcecode under certain circumstances... [01:31] yann2: what harrisony said [01:31] ok, so no :) [01:31] or shove some money in some of the devs mouth :) [01:31] yann2: well, yes, but to help with the development === zwnj [n=zwnj@194.225.70.226] has joined #launchpad [01:32] harrisony , would money solve the problem? [01:33] yann2: talk with static (Elliot Murphy) about your needs and he will be able to tell you the options we could offer for your needs [01:33] yann2: when i said shove some money in the devs mouth that is what i ment, email the launchpad team and they maybe able to hook you up [01:34] yann2: I'm not sure whether we are allowing such usage, even in exchange of money [01:34] yann2: Elliot should be able to give you an answer for it [01:34] statis@ubuntu.com ? [01:35] yann2: elliot@canonical.com [01:35] yann2: 'static' is his IRC nick name [01:36] yann2: btw, he's on vacations until Sunday, so he will not be back at work until Monday === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad === allenap [n=gavin@212.233.38.227] has left #launchpad [] === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.38.227] has joined #launchpad === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.38.227] has left #launchpad [] === allenap [n=gavin@212.233.38.227] has joined #launchpad [02:01] New bug: #115215 in launchpad "File Upload widget needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115215 === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.103.136.113] has joined #launchpad === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad === poolie [n=mbp@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === carlos -> lunch === mpt [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #launchpad === sorsis [n=sorsis@cs145083.pp.htv.fi] has joined #launchpad === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/rinchen] has joined #launchpad === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable040.144-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === rdale [n=rdale@158.Red-88-2-176.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [03:23] i'm trying to find a 'trunk series' for my project so i can fill in the details of the svn that i'd like to import, but i can't find it === indraveni [n=indraven@203.129.255.178] has joined #launchpad === jjesse [n=jonathan@38.115.133.11] has joined #launchpad === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@ubuntu/member/gnukemist] has joined #launchpad === jtv [n=jtv@125-24-240-54.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #launchpad === lionel_ is now known as lionel [03:30] rdale: try launchpad.net/project/trunk [03:30] where "project" is your project name [03:30] ok thanks [03:31] it's usually autocreated when you register a project [03:31] you can register stable series yourself, like 1.0, 1.5, 2.0 etc [03:33] i've found the page, but i think we would like to maintain the project in the launchpad svn, rather than the current svn. So we don't just want to take a bazaar branch, but import the whole svn [03:41] rdale: er [03:42] "we would like to maintain the project in the launchpad svn" [03:42] there is no launchpad svn === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #launchpad [03:42] and the code import service only supports tracking trunk [03:42] oh === sinzui [n=sinzui@pool-70-17-76-205.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad [03:43] if you'd like to switch to bzr, you probably want to use svn2bzr and host the result on launchpad [03:43] alternatively, there's bzr-svn [03:43] ah i see [03:43] so we will have the svn history in bzr? [03:44] certainly, that's what svn2bzr does [03:44] an import losing history doesn't exactly require tool support :-) [03:45] so we could convert to bzr outside lauchpad, tidy up the things we don't need to import, and then put in a request to import the bzr repository? [03:46] yes [03:46] though you don't need to request an import for bzr :) [03:47] great thanks - i'll go and have a look at svn2bzr [03:48] you could use the vcs-import service to base your import on, but it's overkill in some ways and underkill in others [03:48] svn2bzr is probably the right answer === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad [03:49] ok, i tried 'apt-get install svn2bzr' but it isn't a package, and i don't seem to have it with my bzr install === jjesse [n=jonathan@38.115.133.11] has joined #launchpad [03:52] hm [03:52] sorry, found it [03:52] http://bazaar-vcs.org/svn2bzr ? [03:53] yes, i've just checked it out === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad [03:57] hope it works [03:57] me === kiko_ is now known as kiko === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has left #launchpad ["Ex-Chat"] === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.1.138.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.174.62] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad [03:59] me [03:59] :) [03:59] ddaa, kiko: hold your horses [03:59] I am afraid I have no horse [04:00] then hold your bicycle === bac is now known as bac_afk [04:00] or use ntp to sync your clock [04:00] you've got the ponytail already [04:00] We all want a pony === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad [04:00] I do use ntp [04:00] mwhudson, is SteveA already gone? [04:00] yes [04:00] Did SteveA get his holiday switched? If not, someone else will need to chair [04:00] SteveA is on the train or something. [04:01] afaik SteveA is in transit [04:01] kiko: i don't know if he's actually left yet, but he is not going to be at the meeting [04:01] he left about 15 mins ago [04:01] hmmm [04:01] meme [04:01] mpt, can you chair, then? [04:01] I can assist [04:01] ok [04:01] MEETING TIME [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me === bac_afk is now known as bac [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] me [04:01] (ok, now we are making it easier on mpt) [04:01] me [04:02] carlos: ping [04:02] heh [04:02] me [04:02] me [04:02] me [04:02] danilos: thanks, i was distracted [04:02] me [04:02] For the next forty-something minutes, we'll be discussing Launchpad development. [04:02] me === adeuring [n=abel@Fc1fe.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #launchpad [04:02] That was a spontaneous roll-call. [04:02] me [04:02] you!? [04:02] me [04:03] hi adeuring [04:03] == Agenda == [04:03] better than spontaneous combustion. NEXT [04:03] * Roll call [04:03] * Agenda [04:03] * Next meeting [04:03] * Actions from last meeting [04:03] * Oops report (Matsubara) [04:03] * Bug report ([wiki:JoeyStanford/topweeklybugs Current Top Items] ) [04:03] * Bug tags [04:03] * Production [04:03] * Staging [04:03] * Sysadmin requests ([wiki:JoeyStanford/toprtrequests Current Queue] ) [04:03] ---- [04:03] * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) [04:03] * Launchpad buzz report (mrevell) [04:03] * TestsStyleGuide (flacoste) [04:03] * (other items) [04:03] ---- [04:03] * Team three sentences ([wiki:ProjectTeams Team List] ) [04:03] * Roll call [04:03] * Agenda [04:03] * Next meeting [04:03] * Actions from last meeting [04:04] * Oops report (Matsubara) [04:04] Next meeting [04:04] Same bat-time, same bat-channel, next week, any objections? [04:04] there appear to be none [04:04] I'll be on holiday next week [04:04] do it [04:04] just FYI === ..[topic/#launchpad:mpt] : Launchpad 1.0, https://launchpad.net/ | Next user meeting: Wed 16 May, 0800UTC | Next developer meeting: Thu 17 May 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 [04:04] == Actions from last meeting == [04:04] * someone (no-one specified) to document the use of "trivial ui" on the tags page === ..[topic/#launchpad:mrevell] : Launchpad 1.0, https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 17 May 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 [04:04] matsubara did that, thanks [04:05] * adeuring, bigjools, jonathank, and matsubara to read TestsStyleGuide [04:05] thanks matsubara! [04:05] Did you do that? [04:05] read the TestsStyleGuide [04:05] please say "yes" or "no" [04:05] yes [04:05] yes [04:05] yes [04:05] yes [04:05] yes [04:05] yes [04:05] thanks [04:05] yes [04:05] don't forget, please subscribe to the page too so you'll see updates [04:05] I was referring just to the people I mentioned [04:05] I subscribed [04:05] I read it [04:05] * SteveA to mail a formal announcement to the list about monthly releases [04:06] I didn't see that, did he do it? [04:06] yes === barry didn't see it === Rinchen didn't see it. [04:06] he did? [04:06] I read it [04:06] yes [04:06] ok [04:06] * Oops report (Matsubara) [04:06] Today's oops report is about bugs 105303, 102862, OOPS-499A1114. [04:06] Launchpad bug 105303 in rosetta "Visiting 'Change translator' form fails with NoCanonicalUrl" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105303 - Assigned to Carlos Perell Marn (carlos) [04:06] Launchpad bug 102862 in malone "OOPS when trying to file a bug from a product series page" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102862 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt) [04:06] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/499A1114 [04:06] carlos, bug 105303 seems fixed in RF. Could you confirm and update the bug status please? I couldn't find the commit where it was fixed. [04:06] BjornT bug 102862, news? === barry checked his spam folder, not there [04:07] stub, should we go on with your suggestion to rebuild the data from the TeamParticipation table to deal with the oops in the communitycouncil/+participation page (i.e. OOPS-499A1114)? [04:07] matsubara: it's merged. I forgot to update the bug... [04:07] matsubara: bug 102862 will be fixed today [04:07] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/499A1114 [04:07] cool [04:07] not seen it [04:07] stub: what was the subject of the mail, I can't find it [04:07] carlos: thanks, add the RF revno please. [04:07] sure [04:07] matsubara: I think that would be best. Beats fixing them when they come up one at a time. [04:08] stub, there shouldn't be any other ones coming up === spiv [n=andrew@canonical/launchpad/spiv] has joined #launchpad [04:08] matsubara: done [04:08] salgado: Then I can just fix it manually [04:08] here comes a live spiv, courtesy of yours truly [04:08] BjornT: thank you. [04:08] stub, otherwise googlebot would have find them out [04:09] stub, yeah, if you could do it today we'd be able to check tomorrow if it's actually solved [04:09] matsubara: btw, should I ask a cherrypick ? that branch changes other things that are not so urgent [04:09] if this happens again, though, then we can be sure the code is buggy somewhere [04:09] btw, if SteveA sent it, it ain't in the archives [04:09] carlos: don't think so. [04:10] barry: I'm pretty sure he didn't send it to the lists [04:10] ok === sinzui cannot find SteveA's email. But thought it linked to https://launchpad.canonical.com/ReleaseCycles [04:10] flacoste: ah, ok. he must have just left some of us out :( [04:10] matsubara, anything else? [04:10] MeetingAction: stub to rebuild TeamParticipation table [04:10] sinzui: wasn't that... Rinchen's email? [04:10] I think SteveA pointed to that wikipage last meeting, but he didn't send the official announcement [04:10] 'm done. thanks mpt [04:10] ok, thanks matsubara [04:11] salgado, I agree. [04:11] thanks stub [04:11] * Bug report (Rinchen) [04:11] Congrats to Bjorn for fixing Bug #114384 [04:11] Launchpad bug 114384 in malone "Dead email accounts cause launchpad to mailbomb and crush subscriber inboxes" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114384 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt) [04:11] NEXT! [04:11] Bug #90384 (Private) - stu - 2007-03-07 - Critical, in progress. stub to invalidate sessions. stub, how is this coming? [04:11] Bug #107912, first reported on 2007-04-19, (Private), mthaddon - Critical, in progress. Waiting on rt request #27781. mthaddon, it appe [04:11] Bug 90384 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/90384 is private [04:11] Bug 107912 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/107912 is private [04:11] Bug #90384 (Private) - stu - 2007-03-07 - Critical, in progress. stub to invalidate sessions. stub, how is this coming? [04:11] Bug #107912, first reported on 2007-04-19, (Private), mthaddon - Critical, in progress. Waiting on rt request #27781. mthaddon, it appe [04:11] kiko, we have more bugs than that unfortunately :-) [04:11] Bug 90384 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/90384 is private [04:11] Bug 107912 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/107912 is private [04:11] arrghh cut-n-paste issues [04:11] Rinchen: Code rolled out today so I'll finalize that bug shortly [04:12] mthaddon, it appears that the bug hasn't been updated in a bit. What's the current status please? [04:12] stub, excellent, thank you sir [04:12] Rinchen: the ticket to get the domains has just been assigned - discussed it on Monday with James so we should see some movement soon [04:13] mthaddon, great thanks. mpt, that's it. short list today. [04:13] ok, thanks Rinchen [04:13] * Bug tags [04:13] There were no tags proposed. [04:13] This week, for the first time, we shall have separate production and staging reports [04:14] stub and mthaddon, I'm sorry, I'm not sure who's doing which [04:14] so, [04:14] * Production [04:14] (was it not about DBA and Production?) [04:14] Cherry picks went fine today. Tom might have more to add. [04:15] just that we're in the process of testing Apache Load Balancer (should have it on Beta soon) === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has left #launchpad ["Ex-Chat"] === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad [04:15] ok [04:15] Will hopefully reduce some complexity as one less piece in place [04:15] other than that, that's it for the Production report [04:15] ta [04:15] * Staging [04:15] launchpad/devel is now open for database patches to land. If you have branches I have reviewed pending, land them. If you have branches I haven't reviewed and need them landed this month, get them into my queue asap. DB freeze will open again Monday. [04:15] Nothing to mention about staging [04:16] stub, mthaddon: just for the record, we'll be testing on staging from monday onwards [04:16] great, thx [04:16] ok, thanks stub, thanks mthaddon [04:16] (so, I guess it indeed was supposed to be 'Production' from mthaddon and 'DB stuff' from stub :) [04:16] stub: I have a branch in review queue for code review, you already approved the DB change [04:16] which is how we currently intend to do QA on database-changing mods [04:16] stub: what will happen in that case? [04:16] carlos: Please get it pushed through review so it can land in the window. [04:16] * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) [04:17] jtv: ^^^ [04:17] jtv: that affects your branch too [04:17] yes [04:17] carlos: If it looks like being blocked, hopefully we can split out the db stuff from the code so it can land now. [04:17] mpt, we can skip this one today. I have a note into Steve. [04:17] ok [04:17] * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) [04:17] stub: ok, will try to get a reviewer today [04:17] This week, I'll share with you an issue that has arisen in the feedback on our proposed Launchpad etiquette document. [04:17] Some people has expressed their aversion to using their real name on Launchpad. Two people in particular have said that they don't like to use their real name because they would rather not be identified as female. [04:17] I'd like to hear the team's thoughts on how we should approach the use of real names. If we encourage the use of full real names - as we do for members of the beta team - then I'd like us to discuss why we feel it's important, so that we can consistently answer people who object. [04:18] Thanks, back to you mpt. [04:18] mrevell, perhaps you could start a mailing list thread about it? [04:18] We already have plenty of users who don't put their real name in the display name field. We have no way of forcing them too either. [04:18] mpt: Yeah, will do, thanks. [04:18]