[02:52] <welshbyte> good evening
[02:52] <welshbyte> how do i get emailed all bug activity related to a particular ubuntu package on launchpad?
[02:55] <Hobbsee> welshbyte: on hte main bugs page for the package
[02:55] <Hobbsee> something about bugmail settiongs
[02:55] <welshbyte> Hobbsee: thanks
[02:56] <Hobbsee> did you find it?
[02:57] <welshbyte> yup, tick boxes under the bugmail settings, thanks :)
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #115148 in rosetta "problem with the "show" filter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115148
[05:12] <jjesse> i have created a bzr branch for keep documentation on launchpad, when i commit it do i have to do anything to get launchpad to show my changes?
[05:35] <radix> jjesse: push it to launchpad
[05:35] <jjesse> radix: bzr push?
[05:35] <radix> jjesse: within a couple minutes after pushing to launchpad, it should show up in code and codebrowse
[05:35] <radix> jjesse: yes
[05:35] <radix> jjesse: or you can register it so launchpad will pull from somewhere else that you've published it
[05:36] <jjesse> radix: i already have it registerd on launchpad
[05:37] <jjesse> https://code.launchpad.net/~jjesse/keep-doc1
[05:39] <jjesse> https://code.launchpad.net/~jjesse/keep/keep-doc1
[05:39] <jjesse> that's the right link
[05:39] <jjesse> purjjesse@hudson:~/public_html/keep$ bzr push
[05:39] <jjesse> Using saved location: https://launchpad.net
[05:39] <jjesse> bzr: ERROR: http does not support mkdir()
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #115158 in blueprint "Information blueprints shouldn't need a priority" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115158
[05:40] <radix> jjesse: when you're pushing to launchpad, you need to use sftp://.
[05:41] <radix> jjesse: so, something like sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jjesse/keep/keep-doc1
[05:41] <jjesse> hmm ok how do i fix it, sorry this is my first time hosting on launchpad
[05:41] <radix> assuming 'keep' is the project and 'keep-doc1' is the name of your branch.
[05:41] <radix> And, this is assuming you've set up our SSH key on launchpad.
[05:41] <jjesse> radix: i have setup my ssh key and also keep is the project keep-doc1 is the name of my bracnh
[05:41] <jjesse> thanks for being so helpful
[05:41] <radix> no worries.
[05:42] <jjesse> is there a .bzr file or something were that is saved?
[05:42] <radix> jjesse: where what is saed?
[05:42] <radix> where what is saved?
[05:42] <jjesse> the http location?
[05:42] <radix> jjesse: oh. yes, it remembered where you got the branch from, and tried pushing it back.
[05:43] <radix> jjesse: here's a hint: pass --remember to push, like "bzr push --remember sftp://..." and then later you only need to say "bzr push" to get it to push to the same place.
[05:43] <jjesse> ok thanks again
[05:45] <jjesse> oh cool, its now shoing my changes
[05:45] <jjesse> that's awesome
[05:47] <radix> great :)
[05:47] <jjesse> good night thanks again
[05:47] <radix> thanks, later.
[09:11] <harrisony> does anyone in here have an idea on how i can see every bug i have touched in launchpad?
[09:12] <LaserJock> I don't think that's possible currently
[09:13] <harrisony> damn! trying to find good bugs ive worked on in lp and cant find em, oh well ill just have to try and remeber them
[09:13] <ubotu> https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/502A304
[09:19] <jamesh> Fujitsu: I'll check it in a few minute when it gets uploaded from the appserver
[09:22] <carlos_> morning
[09:22] <Fujitsu> jamesh: I managed to work around it a couple of minutes after I mentioned it in here. It occured when I attempted to change various aspects of an Ubuntu task, while in the context of the Debian task. When I changed to the Ubuntu task, it worked fine.
[09:23] <jamesh> Fujitsu: ah.  It's a timeout.  Looking at the log, I'm not sure how repeatable it is
[09:23] <Fujitsu> I repeated it 3 or 4 times.
[09:25] <jamesh> what I mean is that there is one db request that was waiting on a lock til it timed out
[09:25] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[09:25] <Fujitsu> OK.
[09:28] <jamesh> Fujitsu: it most likely means that some other process had a lock on the record, and your request was waiting for the lock to be released
[09:28] <jamesh> probably one of our background jobs
[09:29] <Fujitsu> OK, thanks.
[09:30] <Hobbsee> hiya
[09:30] <Fujitsu> Hi Hobbsee.
[09:31] <Hobbsee> :)
[09:59] <Hobbsee> interesting discussion on the ML
[09:59] <Hobbsee> mdke: having to use a real name, and the fear/annoyance of doing so, is *very* seriousl
[09:59] <Hobbsee> -l
[10:16] <popey> stylesheet broken on launchpad?
[10:17] <Hobbsee> hiya kiko 
[10:18] <popey> http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/screenshots/Screenshot_Launchpad_Mozilla_Firefox is that just me ?
[10:20] <oojah> popey: No
[10:20] <Hobbsee> nope
[10:31] <popey> \o/ fix0red
[11:16] <Yannig> Hello everybody :)
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #115194 in rosetta "can't export .mo file in software-properties for catalan translations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115194
[12:00] <doko> hmm, is there a way to get to the package queue page from the ubuntu lp page?
[12:03] <dpm> hi, what's the correct way to import translations from the gnome translation project (GTP) which have changed after the Feisty release?
[12:03] <dpm> what I've been doing on a module basis is 1) get the (newer) translation from the GTP, 2) get the (older) translation from Rosetta 3) msgmerge 4) Upload the resulting file as a 'User upload' 5) After receiving the e-mail confirmation of a successful import, upload the same file again, but as a 'Published upload'.
[12:04] <dpm> I do step 4) because it is the only way to overwrite the strings in Rosetta. Then I do step 5) because it is my understanding (I was told on this channel) that in this way the status of all strings gets reverted to 'Published upload', as it should be for gnome packages.
[12:04] <dpm> However, I wanted to check if this is correct or if there is an easier way, since this is a tedious process (you have to upload translations twice and wait several hours until confirmation of the import to do the second upload)
[12:26] <carlos> dpm: if you want to undo any change done in Rosetta that is different from what official GNOME has
[12:26] <carlos> dpm: what you did is a good workaround to some missing functionality we have
[12:27] <carlos> dpm: usually, if you upload it directly as a published file, the translations in Launchpad/Ubuntu that matches the one in GNOME will follow any change done in GNOME
[12:28] <carlos> and if there is any untranslated, Launchpad will activate automatically the one coming from GNOME
[12:30] <dpm> carlos: no, that's why I started doing steps 4) and 5). I noticed that if I only upload as published the newer strings from gnome were not replaced in Rosetta
[12:30] <dpm> for already translated strings
[12:31] <carlos> dpm: please, subscribe to https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/60029 so you know when you could stop doing it that way
[12:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 60029 in rosetta "Should always be possible to view/revert to upstream translation" [Medium,Confirmed]  
[12:31] <carlos> once we fix that bug, you could do a direct upload as 'published' and then select to revert changes in Launchpad
[12:32] <carlos> and the system will do it for you automatically
[12:32] <dpm> carlos: I was already subscribed :)
[12:32] <carlos> ok ;-)
[12:34] <dpm> carlos: in any case, just to be sure: until the bug is fixed, the correct (and only) way to do this is the procedure I've described before (i.e. steps 4 and 5), isn't it?
[12:37] <carlos> dpm: it's a workaround, yes
[12:37] <carlos> not really what should be done, because you are not supposed to have to do it
[12:38] <carlos> but the only way to do that until the bug is fixed
[12:38] <dpm> ok, thanks, I understand. I'll keep doing this with a clear conscience, then ;-).
[12:40] <dpm> carlos: may I reproduce the log of this conversation on our Translation Team Wiki
[12:40] <dpm> ? 
[12:40] <dpm> just for the reference for other translators on the team
[12:46] <carlos> sorry I got a phone call
[12:47] <carlos> dpm: sure, you can, but add also a note saying that we don't support that so if someone breaks something doing that, we cannot promise to be able to revert it
[12:50] <dpm> carlos: ok, thanks. I'll add that (scary) note. In any case, from a technical point of view there shouldn't be any breakage, shouldn't it? It is nothing more than the usual upload procedure, albeit twice (and having waited for the first import to have been completed).
[12:51] <carlos> dpm: technically, is safe, but if you do any mistake in the external process and provide broken data, we don't have a way to detect that and block such action
[12:52] <carlos> that's why we don't document that procedure as it's working as a side effect of the way the system works
[12:52] <carlos> not because we wanted to cover such use case
[12:52] <dpm> I understand, I'm just asking to be sure of what I'm doing
[12:54] <dpm> carlos: but that (to provide broken data) can always happen, even if you do a single (user or published) upload, can't it? What I mean is, there is nothing particular in the, let's call it "upload twice" procedure, isn't there?
[12:56] <carlos> indeed, but with normal work flow, you don't need to do a msgmerge and get two file together and change most of the metadata we have in our database
[12:57] <carlos> if you change only launchpad translations or published translations, there is a chance to fix some breakages, doing the procedure you described, you change everything so it's harder to undo
[12:57] <carlos> dpm: I'm not against doing it that way, I'm just pointing that you should be careful ;-)
[12:57] <carlos> I will be against doing it once we provide you with the required tools so you don't need to do it anymore
[12:58] <jcs> Hi there, what's the usual turnaround time on processing the translation template for a new project?
[12:58] <dpm> yes, I understand, it is only a temporary workaround. I'll stress that on our team's wiki.
[12:59] <dpm> carlos: thank you very much for your support
[12:59] <carlos> dpm: you are welcome
[12:59] <carlos> jcs: it depends on how busy are we, (usually a lot...)
[01:00] <carlos> jcs: but I could approve it for you right now if you tell me the project we talk about
[01:00] <jcs> I'm talking about launchpad.net/referencer (trunk)
[01:02] <jcs> carlos: I actually uploaded templates twice, once for the 1.0 branch and once for trunk -- the 1.0 was a mistake, but I couldn't see a way to undo it
[01:02] <jcs> I'm kind of feeling my way with launchpad, trying to figure out what it can do for me.
[01:02] <jcs> I have a translator with an allergy to subversion :-0
[01:02] <oojah> jcs: If you look in the translation import queue you can delete templates (if they've not been imported)
[01:02] <carlos> jcs: you can remove it from the queue: https://translations.launchpad.net/translations/imports/+index?target=products&status=NEEDS_REVIEW&type=pot&start=0&batch=75
[01:03] <carlos> jcs: we are working to provide an import queue per product so you don't lose in all projects imports and only see the ones you are interested on
[01:03] <jcs> thanks, done.
[01:03] <oojah> carlos: That'd be great.
[01:04] <carlos> oojah: it should be done at the end of this month
[01:04] <oojah> That's good to hear.
[01:06] <carlos> jcs: It's approved, the messages should be available soon, once the import script handles that request
[01:07] <jcs> carlos: great, thanks a lot.
[01:07] <carlos> jcs: please, update https://launchpad.net/referencer to note that you are using Launchpad Translations service
[01:07] <carlos> jcs: you are welcome
[01:07] <carlos> future updates for that template will be approved automatically
[01:14] <gnomefreak> would changing the name of my LP page mess with my @ubuntu.com email?
[01:19] <cprov> Good Morning Vietnam !
[01:20] <carlos> gnomefreak: hmm, I think you should ask on #canonical-sysadmin
[01:21] <carlos> I'm not sure how is handled that case
[01:24] <gnomefreak> carlos: ty
[01:25] <yann2> hi there :)
[01:28] <carlos> yann2: hi
[01:29] <yann2> is the code for answers.launchpad.net available somewhere?
[01:30] <carlos> it's part of launchpad application
[01:30] <yann2> is it possible to install it alone?
[01:30] <carlos> but it's not available to download
[01:30] <carlos> yann2: please see https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/faq 'Is Launchpad open source? Will it be?'
[01:31] <yann2> so there is actually no way I can use the code fron aswer for my company?
[01:31] <harrisony> yann2: use launchpad.net is the only one
[01:31] <yann2> carlos > i heard it would ne possible to get the sourcecode under certain circumstances...
[01:31] <carlos> yann2: what harrisony said
[01:31] <yann2> ok, so no :)
[01:31] <harrisony> or shove some money in some of the devs mouth :)
[01:31] <carlos> yann2: well, yes, but to help with the development
[01:32] <yann2> harrisony , would money solve the problem?
[01:33] <carlos> yann2: talk with static (Elliot Murphy) about your needs and he will be able to tell you the options we could offer for your needs
[01:33] <harrisony> yann2: when i said shove some money in the devs mouth that is what i ment, email the launchpad team and they maybe able to hook you up
[01:34] <carlos> yann2: I'm not sure whether we are allowing such usage, even in exchange of money
[01:34] <carlos> yann2: Elliot should be able to give you an answer for it
[01:34] <yann2> statis@ubuntu.com ?
[01:35] <carlos> yann2: elliot@canonical.com
[01:35] <carlos> yann2: 'static' is his IRC nick name
[01:36] <carlos> yann2: btw, he's on vacations until Sunday, so he will not be back at work until Monday
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #115215 in launchpad "File Upload widget needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115215
[03:23] <rdale> i'm trying to find a 'trunk series' for my project so i can fill in the details of the svn that i'd like to import, but i can't find it
[03:30] <sabdfl> rdale: try launchpad.net/project/trunk
[03:30] <sabdfl> where "project" is your project name
[03:30] <rdale> ok thanks
[03:31] <sabdfl> it's usually autocreated when you register a project
[03:31] <sabdfl> you can register stable series yourself, like 1.0, 1.5, 2.0 etc
[03:33] <rdale> i've found the page, but i think we would like to maintain the project in the launchpad svn, rather than the current svn. So we don't just want to take a bazaar branch, but import the whole svn
[03:41] <mwhudson> rdale: er
[03:42] <mwhudson> "we would like to maintain the project in the launchpad svn"
[03:42] <mwhudson> there is no launchpad svn
[03:42] <mwhudson> and the code import service only supports tracking trunk
[03:42] <rdale> oh
[03:43] <mwhudson> if you'd like to switch to bzr, you probably want to use svn2bzr and host the result on launchpad
[03:43] <mwhudson> alternatively, there's bzr-svn
[03:43] <rdale> ah i see
[03:43] <rdale> so we will have the svn history in bzr?
[03:44] <mwhudson> certainly, that's what svn2bzr does
[03:44] <mwhudson> an import losing history doesn't exactly require tool support :-)
[03:45] <rdale> so we could convert to bzr outside lauchpad, tidy up the things we don't need to import, and then put in a request to import the bzr repository?
[03:46] <mwhudson> yes
[03:46] <mwhudson> though you don't need to request an import for bzr :)
[03:47] <rdale> great thanks - i'll go and have a look at svn2bzr
[03:48] <mwhudson> you could use the vcs-import service to base your import on, but it's overkill in some ways and underkill in others
[03:48] <mwhudson> svn2bzr is probably the right answer
[03:49] <rdale> ok, i tried 'apt-get install svn2bzr' but it isn't a package, and i don't seem to have it with my bzr install
[03:52] <mwhudson> hm
[03:52] <rdale> sorry, found it
[03:52] <mwhudson> http://bazaar-vcs.org/svn2bzr ?
[03:53] <rdale> yes, i've just checked it out
[03:57] <mwhudson> hope it works
[03:57] <kiko_> me
[03:59] <ddaa> me
[03:59] <mwhudson> :)
[03:59] <flacoste> ddaa, kiko: hold your horses
[03:59] <kiko> I am afraid I have no horse
[04:00] <jtv> then hold your bicycle
[04:00] <flacoste> or use ntp to sync your clock
[04:00] <ddaa> you've got the ponytail already
[04:00] <mpt> We all want a pony
[04:00] <kiko> I do use ntp
[04:00] <kiko> mwhudson, is SteveA already gone?
[04:00] <ddaa> yes
[04:00] <mpt> Did SteveA get his holiday switched? If not, someone else will need to chair
[04:00] <ddaa> SteveA is on the train or something.
[04:01] <schwuk> afaik SteveA is in transit
[04:01] <mwhudson> kiko: i don't know if he's actually left yet, but he is not going to be at the meeting
[04:01] <ddaa> he left about 15 mins ago
[04:01] <kiko> hmmm
[04:01] <jonathank> meme
[04:01] <kiko> mpt, can you chair, then?
[04:01] <kiko> I can assist
[04:01] <mpt> ok
[04:01] <mpt> MEETING TIME
[04:01] <ddaa> me
[04:01] <mrevell> me
[04:01] <jtv> me
[04:01] <bac_afk> me
[04:01] <schwuk> me
[04:01] <barry> me
[04:01] <sinzui> me
[04:01] <flacoste> me
[04:01] <Rinchen> me
[04:01] <allenap> me
[04:01] <stub> me
[04:01] <mthaddon> me
[04:01] <BjornT> me
[04:01] <danilos> me
[04:01] <mpt> me
[04:01] <salgado> me
[04:01] <danilos> (ok, now we are making it easier on mpt)
[04:01] <mwhudson> me
[04:02] <danilos> carlos: ping
[04:02] <mpt> heh
[04:02] <carlos> me
[04:02] <matsubara> me
[04:02] <bigjools> me
[04:02] <carlos> danilos: thanks, i was distracted
[04:02] <kiko> me
[04:02] <mpt> For the next forty-something minutes, we'll be discussing Launchpad development.
[04:02] <jonathank> me
[04:02] <mpt> That was a spontaneous roll-call.
[04:02] <cprov> me
[04:02] <jtv> you!?
[04:02] <adeuring> me
[04:03] <mpt> hi adeuring 
[04:03] <mpt> == Agenda ==
[04:03] <kiko> better than spontaneous combustion. NEXT
[04:03] <mpt>  * Roll call
[04:03] <mpt>  * Agenda
[04:03] <mpt>  * Next meeting
[04:03] <mpt>  * Actions from last meeting
[04:03] <mpt>  * Oops report (Matsubara)
[04:03] <mpt>  * Bug report ([wiki:JoeyStanford/topweeklybugs Current Top Items] )
[04:03] <mpt>  * Bug tags
[04:03] <mpt>  * Production
[04:03] <mpt>  * Staging
[04:03] <mpt>  * Sysadmin requests ([wiki:JoeyStanford/toprtrequests Current Queue] )
[04:03] <mpt> ----
[04:03] <mpt>  * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[04:03] <mpt>  * Launchpad buzz report (mrevell)
[04:03] <mpt>  * TestsStyleGuide (flacoste)
[04:03] <mpt>  * (other items)
[04:03] <mpt> ----
[04:03] <mpt>  * Team three sentences ([wiki:ProjectTeams Team List] )
[04:03] <mpt>  * Roll call
[04:03] <mpt>  * Agenda
[04:03] <mpt>  * Next meeting
[04:03] <mpt>  * Actions from last meeting
[04:04] <mpt>  * Oops report (Matsubara)
[04:04] <mpt> Next meeting
[04:04] <mpt> Same bat-time, same bat-channel, next week, any objections?
[04:04] <mpt> there appear to be none
[04:04] <mrevell> I'll be on holiday next week
[04:04] <kiko> do it
[04:04] <mrevell> just FYI
[04:04] <mpt> == Actions from last meeting ==
[04:04] <mpt>  * someone (no-one specified) to document the use of "trivial ui" on the tags page
[04:04] <mpt> matsubara did that, thanks
[04:05] <mpt>  * adeuring, bigjools, jonathank, and matsubara to read TestsStyleGuide
[04:05] <kiko> thanks matsubara!
[04:05] <mpt> Did you do that?
[04:05] <jonathank> read the TestsStyleGuide
[04:05] <mpt> please say "yes" or "no"
[04:05] <adeuring> yes
[04:05] <jonathank> yes
[04:05] <bigjools> yes
[04:05] <jamesh> yes
[04:05] <matsubara> yes
[04:05] <ddaa> yes
[04:05] <mpt> thanks
[04:05] <mwhudson> yes
[04:05] <barry> don't forget, please subscribe to the page too so you'll see updates
[04:05] <mpt> I was referring just to the people I mentioned
[04:05] <bigjools> I subscribed
[04:05] <kiko> I read it
[04:05] <mpt> * SteveA to mail a formal announcement to the list about monthly releases
[04:06] <mpt> I didn't see that, did he do it?
[04:06] <sinzui> yes
[04:06] <flacoste> he did?
[04:06] <cprov> I read it
[04:06] <stub> yes
[04:06] <mpt> ok
[04:06] <mpt>  * Oops report (Matsubara)
[04:06] <matsubara> Today's oops report is about bugs 105303, 102862, OOPS-499A1114.
[04:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 105303 in rosetta "Visiting 'Change translator' form fails with NoCanonicalUrl" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105303 - Assigned to Carlos Perell Marn (carlos)
[04:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 102862 in malone "OOPS when trying to file a bug from a product series page" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102862 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt)
[04:06] <ubotu> https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/499A1114
[04:06] <matsubara> carlos, bug 105303 seems fixed in RF. Could you confirm and update the bug status please? I couldn't find the commit where it was fixed.
[04:06] <matsubara> BjornT bug 102862, news?
[04:07] <matsubara> stub, should we go on with your suggestion to rebuild the data from the TeamParticipation table to deal with the oops in the communitycouncil/+participation page (i.e. OOPS-499A1114)?
[04:07] <carlos> matsubara: it's merged. I forgot to update the bug...
[04:07] <BjornT> matsubara: bug 102862 will be fixed today
[04:07] <ubotu> https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/499A1114
[04:07] <kiko> cool
[04:07] <bigjools> not seen it
[04:07] <flacoste> stub: what was the subject of the mail, I can't find it
[04:07] <matsubara> carlos: thanks, add the RF revno please.
[04:07] <carlos> sure
[04:07] <stub> matsubara: I think that would be best. Beats fixing them when they come up one at a time.
[04:08] <salgado> stub, there shouldn't be any other ones coming up
[04:08] <carlos> matsubara: done
[04:08] <stub> salgado: Then I can just fix it manually
[04:08] <ddaa> here comes a live spiv, courtesy of yours truly
[04:08] <matsubara> BjornT: thank you.
[04:08] <salgado> stub, otherwise googlebot would have find them out
[04:09] <kiko> stub, yeah, if you could do it today we'd be able to check tomorrow if it's actually solved
[04:09] <carlos> matsubara: btw, should I ask a cherrypick ? that branch changes other things that are not so urgent
[04:09] <salgado> if this happens again, though, then we can be sure the code is buggy somewhere
[04:09] <barry> btw, if SteveA sent it, it ain't in the archives
[04:09] <matsubara> carlos: don't think so. 
[04:10] <flacoste> barry: I'm pretty sure he didn't send it to the lists
[04:10] <carlos> ok
[04:10] <barry> flacoste: ah, ok.  he must have just left some of us out :(
[04:10] <mpt> matsubara, anything else?
[04:10] <matsubara> MeetingAction: stub to rebuild TeamParticipation table
[04:10] <jtv> sinzui: wasn't that... Rinchen's email?
[04:10] <salgado> I think SteveA pointed to that wikipage last meeting, but he didn't send the official announcement
[04:10] <matsubara> 'm done. thanks mpt 
[04:10] <mpt> ok, thanks matsubara 
[04:11] <Rinchen> salgado, I agree.
[04:11] <matsubara> thanks stub 
[04:11] <mpt>  * Bug report (Rinchen)
[04:11] <Rinchen> Congrats to Bjorn for fixing Bug #114384
[04:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114384 in malone "Dead email accounts cause launchpad to mailbomb and crush subscriber inboxes" [Critical,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114384 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt)
[04:11] <kiko> NEXT!
[04:11] <Rinchen> Bug #90384 (Private) - stu - 2007-03-07 - Critical, in progress. stub to invalidate sessions. stub, how is this coming?
[04:11] <Rinchen> Bug #107912, first reported on 2007-04-19, (Private), mthaddon - Critical, in progress. Waiting on rt request #27781. mthaddon, it appe
[04:11] <ubotu> Bug 90384 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/90384 is private
[04:11] <ubotu> Bug 107912 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/107912 is private
[04:11] <Rinchen> Bug #90384 (Private) - stu - 2007-03-07 - Critical, in progress. stub to invalidate sessions. stub, how is this coming?
[04:11] <Rinchen> Bug #107912, first reported on 2007-04-19, (Private), mthaddon - Critical, in progress. Waiting on rt request #27781. mthaddon, it appe
[04:11] <mpt> kiko, we have more bugs than that unfortunately :-)
[04:11] <ubotu> Bug 90384 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/90384 is private
[04:11] <ubotu> Bug 107912 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/107912 is private
[04:11] <Rinchen> arrghh cut-n-paste issues
[04:11] <stub> Rinchen: Code rolled out today so I'll finalize that bug shortly
[04:12] <Rinchen> mthaddon, it appears that the bug hasn't been updated in a bit. What's the current status please?
[04:12] <Rinchen> stub, excellent, thank you sir
[04:12] <mthaddon> Rinchen: the ticket to get the domains has just been assigned - discussed it on Monday with James so we should see some movement soon
[04:13] <Rinchen> mthaddon, great thanks.  mpt, that's it. short list today.
[04:13] <mpt> ok, thanks Rinchen 
[04:13] <mpt>  * Bug tags
[04:13] <mpt> There were no tags proposed.
[04:13] <mpt> This week, for the first time, we shall have separate production and staging reports
[04:14] <mpt> stub and mthaddon, I'm sorry, I'm not sure who's doing which
[04:14] <mpt> so,
[04:14] <mpt>  * Production
[04:14] <danilos> (was it not about DBA and Production?)
[04:14] <stub> Cherry picks went fine today. Tom might have more to add.
[04:15] <mthaddon> just that we're in the process of testing Apache Load Balancer (should have it on Beta soon) 
[04:15] <mpt> ok
[04:15] <mthaddon> Will hopefully reduce some complexity as one less piece in place
[04:15] <mthaddon> other than that, that's it for the Production report
[04:15] <mpt> ta
[04:15] <mpt> * Staging
[04:15] <stub> launchpad/devel is now open for database patches to land. If you have branches I have reviewed pending, land them. If you have branches I haven't reviewed and need them landed this month, get them into my queue asap. DB freeze will open again Monday.
[04:15] <mthaddon> Nothing to mention about staging
[04:16] <kiko> stub, mthaddon: just for the record, we'll be testing on staging from monday onwards
[04:16] <mthaddon> great, thx
[04:16] <mpt> ok, thanks stub, thanks mthaddon 
[04:16] <danilos> (so, I guess it indeed was supposed to be 'Production' from mthaddon and 'DB stuff' from stub :)
[04:16] <carlos> stub: I have a branch in review queue for code review, you already approved the DB change
[04:16] <kiko> which is how we currently intend to do QA on database-changing mods
[04:16] <carlos> stub: what will happen in that case?
[04:16] <stub> carlos: Please get it pushed through review so it can land in the window.
[04:16] <mpt> * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen)
[04:17] <carlos> jtv: ^^^
[04:17] <carlos> jtv: that affects your branch too
[04:17] <jtv> yes
[04:17] <stub> carlos: If it looks like being blocked, hopefully we can split out the db stuff from the code so it can land now.
[04:17] <Rinchen> mpt,  we can skip this one today.  I have a note into Steve.
[04:17] <mpt> ok
[04:17] <mpt>  * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[04:17] <carlos> stub: ok, will try to get a reviewer today
[04:17] <mrevell> This week, I'll share with you an issue that has arisen in the feedback on our proposed Launchpad etiquette document.
[04:17] <mrevell> Some people has expressed their aversion to using their real name on Launchpad. Two people in particular have said that they don't like to use their real name because they would rather not be identified as female.
[04:17] <mrevell> I'd like to hear the team's thoughts on how we should approach the use of real names. If we encourage the use of full real names - as we do for members of the beta team - then I'd like us to discuss why we feel it's important, so that we can consistently answer people who object.
[04:18] <mrevell> Thanks, back to you mpt.
[04:18] <mpt> mrevell, perhaps you could start a mailing list thread about it?
[04:18] <stub> We already have plenty of users who don't put their real name in the display name field. We have no way of forcing them too either.
[04:18] <mrevell> mpt: Yeah, will do, thanks.
[04:18] <kiko> mrevell, I think we should encourage the use of real names, and an abbreviated first name if the person wants to preserve some of their identity.
[04:18] <mpt> ok
[04:18] <mpt>  * Launchpad buzz report (mrevell)
[04:18] <mrevell> kiko: thanks
[04:18] <Rinchen> mrevell, is it possible to sign the etiquette doc in the same manner we sign the CoC doc for Ubuntu?
[04:19] <barry> kiko: +1
[04:19] <mrevell> I posted the buzz report to the ML yesterday. Thanks to all those who've given me feedback on usage metrics.
[04:19] <kiko> thanks for that mrevell, interesting
[04:19] <mrevell> Rinchen: It depends if we feel that's necessary.
[04:19] <matsubara> Rinchen: not currently, but there's a bug open about providing infrastructure for projects that want that.
[04:19] <Rinchen> the reason I mention this is that you can sign it but it won't reveal your name
[04:19] <mpt> * TestsStyleGuide, I covered that in the actions from last meeting
[04:19] <Rinchen> s/can/could
[04:20] <mpt> so that brings us to ...
[04:20] <mpt> * Team three sentences
[04:20] <kiko> Rinchen, I spoke to mark about making the Ubuntu CoC the launchpad CoC.. 
[04:20] <mpt> fire at will
[04:20] <jtv> TEAM: Translations
[04:20] <jtv> DONE: OpenOffice.org translation reorg, #32417, #83801, #88873, #113036
[04:20] <jtv> TODO: Finish #40550, #112314, TranslationImportQueuePriorities, reviews
[04:20] <jtv> BLOCKED: no, but would like faster review cycle
[04:20] <bac> DONE: Progress report for month 1, Landed db changes and code for file mgmt, statik vacation, customer issues, private bugs, investigate test hangs
[04:20] <bac> TODO: Salesforce data pull/pyax integration, LP monitoring, private bugs
[04:20] <bac> BLOCKED: No
[04:20] <barry> TEAM: team mailing lists
[04:20] <barry> DONE: phase three spec initial reviews, spec updated as a result; fixed launchpad.conf on staging problems w/mthaddon.
[04:20] <barry> TODO: finish query section of phase three spec, and last few XXXs, submit for formal review
[04:20] <barry> BLOCKED: still having problems w/merging mm21up branch via pqm
[04:20] <matsubara> TEAM: infrastructure
[04:20] <matsubara> DONE: Tested Apache Load Balancer, Migrated Demo back to Carbon, database disconnect handling for webapp landed (already on production), single sign on landed, triage and oops report.
[04:20] <matsubara> TODO: Test Apache Load Balancer on Beta, Sanitized DB script for Elliot, change configs and Application Server allocation per SteveA's request, get external hostnames for each application instance. database configuration changes for storm support, script isolation default, spec work. Triage and oops report.
[04:20] <flacoste> TEAM: answer-tracker
[04:20] <flacoste> DONE: AnswersBadgeAndRank spec, add rationale to answer tracker notifications (#94094), allow preferred-languages only answer contacts (#81369)
[04:20] <flacoste> TODO: Land fixes #81369 and #94094, more bug fixes, discuss specs
[04:20] <flacoste> BLOCKED: waiting on review of specs: AnswerSpec (mpt), LiveHelp (kiko, SteveA), AnswersBadgeAndRankSpec (mpt, BjornT, kiko)
[04:20] <matsubara> BLOCKED: no
[04:20] <Rinchen> kiko, nifty would love to hear the outcome
[04:20] <BjornT> 2007-05-17
[04:20] <BjornT> TEAM: bug tracker
[04:20] <BjornT> DONE: More discussions and spec writing at UDS. Dealt with bugs being spammed with bounce messages. Finished fixing for bug 81014, and a few more bug fixes are in the review queue.
[04:20] <ddaa> TEAM: Launchpad-bazaar Antipodeans
[04:20] <ddaa> DONE: sprinting in Dunedin: working out the details of branch landing targets (now called branch merge intent),
[04:20] <ddaa> brainstorming ideas to make the code hosting work better, identifying steps to reviews within launchpad, landed
[04:20] <ddaa> private branch db patch.
[04:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 81014 in malone "Don't assume entered package is a binary package" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81014 - Assigned to Gavin Panella (allenap)
[04:20] <ddaa> TODO: get the bzr smart-server working on the supermirror, continue work on private branches.
[04:20] <ddaa> BLOCKED: no
[04:20] <BjornT> TODO: Land p-closing-bugs-via-changelogs. Plan for next release cycle. Track who and when a bug was made private. More small bug fixes.
[04:20] <salgado> TEAM: FOAF
[04:20] <BjornT> BLOCKED: no
[04:20] <salgado> DONE: Finished fixing bug 53637 (already got 2/3 of the code approved).
[04:20] <salgado> TODO: Bug 70519 and start working on launchpad-*-dependencies
[04:20] <salgado> BLOCKED: no
[04:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 53637 in launchpad "Adding team 'Foo' as a member of team 'Bar' should require confirmation from one of the administrators of 'Foo'" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/53637 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado)
[04:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 70519 in launchpad "Need to allow team members to renew their own membership once it gets close to the membership's expiration date" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/70519 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado)
[04:21] <ddaa> TEAM: Launcphad-bazaar Europeans
[04:21] <ddaa> DONE: imports herding training, codebrowse exploration, bzr performance sprint, code-import-roadmap design
[04:21] <ddaa> TODO: code-import-journal spec, multiple bzr rm bug (redhatcluster import), code-import-roadmap discussion
[04:21] <ddaa> BLOCKED: no
[04:21] <Rinchen> ddaa, Antipodeans? :-) 
[04:21] <mpt> DONE: bug page work, Launchpad-Bazaar sprint, LiveHelp review
[04:21] <mpt> TODO: review AnswerSpec for flacoste, finish the @#$%! bug page
[04:21] <mpt> BLOCKED: no
[04:21] <cprov> TEAM: soyuz
[04:21] <ddaa> Rinchen: they identify themselves as such
[04:21] <cprov> DONE: UDS & SDS-UK
[04:21] <cprov> TODO: PPA, unifying upload notifications, general bug fixing
[04:21] <cprov> BLOCKED:  no
[04:21] <ddaa> not the team, but the antipodeans, generally
[04:22] <mpt> barry, are you getting enough help with your PQM problems?
[04:22] <ddaa> Rinchen: I have a RT
[04:22] <barry> mpt: i could use more.  i'm still not sure what's going wrong, how i screwed up, or how to fix it
[04:22] <ddaa> pending
[04:22] <kiko> flacoste, I won't have time to review any of those before monday -- but I'd love to see a first step on answerspec in a design call..
[04:23] <ddaa> I think I should complain to you instead of bothering the sysadmin down the office...
[04:23] <Rinchen> ddaa, ok, shoot the number and urgency to me and I'll see what I can do.
[04:23] <ddaa> RT 27816: "allow outgoing SFTP from vostok"
[04:23] <ddaa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/109441
[04:23] <mpt> kiko, who should help barry? lifeless perhaps?
[04:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109441 in launchpad-bazaar "launchpad fails to properly mirror branch." [High,Confirmed]  
[04:23] <ddaa> not extremely urgent, but already quite late...
[04:23] <mpt> flacoste, sorry for dragging out those reviews. If I haven't finished them in the next 24 hours, you can pie me at the next Launchpad sprint.
[04:23] <ddaa> hu
[04:23] <ddaa> darn, it's allow outgoing FTP, not SFTP
[04:23] <kiko> mpt, yes, and lifeless is currently at a good timezone for that too
[04:23] <mthaddon> mpt: yeah, I'm afraid it's beyond my PQM knowledge, so lifeless would be needed to help barry
[04:23] <flacoste> mpt: you're on!
[04:23] <kiko> mpt, he's going to be in .br next week btw
[04:24] <mpt> kiko, "he"?
[04:24] <mpt> lifeless?
[04:24] <mpt> oh
[04:24] <Rinchen> ddaa, wasn't on my list :-)  I have it now.
[04:24] <mpt> okay, is there anyone blocked who I missed?
[04:24] <mpt> jtv mentioned faster reviews
[04:25] <ddaa> kiko: watch out for Robert Collins World Tour 2007!
[04:25] <barry> mpt, kiko, lifeless: it would be fine to wait until next week when lifeless is closer to my timezone.  i can get with him on irc next week perhaps?
[04:25] <mpt> Anyone from the review team want to comment on what's happening with the review queue?
[04:25] <bac> i owe jtv a review.  kiko's travels have made the mentoring process slow.
[04:25] <kiko> barry, he's in london tis week
[04:25] <spiv> I haven't done any reviews in the last two weeks due to leave/sprint.
[04:25] <flacoste> kiko: "first step on answerspec in a design call...": what do you have in mind?
[04:25] <kiko> flacoste, the entire spec seems too big for a single patch, right?
[04:25] <mpt> spiv, so reviews should be faster this week than last?
[04:26] <flacoste> kiko: right
[04:26] <barry> kiko: cool, i'll ping him in my mornings
[04:26] <stub> carlos' branch with the db patch needs to be reviewed asap
[04:26] <carlos> stub: already talked with Salgado about it
[04:26] <spiv> mpt: this coming week, yeah, unless some other reviewer goes on leave...
[04:26] <carlos> stub: I'm going to split the branch
[04:26] <carlos> and merge the DB patch
[04:26] <stub> carlos: sounds good
[04:26] <flacoste> kiko: but it could one landing in several review-iteration
[04:26] <mpt> spiv, cool, thanks
[04:26] <jtv> stub: and I'll have one for you as well
[04:26] <mpt> I think that is everything, and in near-record time
[04:26] <mpt> MEETING ENDS
[04:26] <mpt> Thank you everybody
[04:27] <kiko> flacoste, I was thinking we could have a design call for the parts you want to do first
[04:27] <stub> jtv: ack
[04:27] <jtv> 27 minutes
[04:27] <jtv> stub: I can get it done tonight, it's just adding a column
[04:27] <bac> mpt: good job!
[04:27] <flacoste> kiko: ok, when?
[04:27] <jtv> stub: Boolean column even, so about as minimal as they get.  :)
[04:27] <mthaddon> stub: we skipping the infra meeting since SteveA is in transit, or going ahead anyway?
[04:27] <stub> jtv: Just email me then and I'll land it tomorrow
[04:27] <flacoste> kiko: how about tomorrow after we have the comments from mpt?
[04:27] <stub> mthaddon: Anything you need to talk about? I'm all for getting drunk.
[04:27] <jtv> stub: that means I owe you a beer
[04:28] <mthaddon> stub: nothing particular - getting drunk takes precedence, I think :)
[04:28] <stub> Rinchen: You need the call?
[04:28] <carlos> wow, this was short
[04:28] <Rinchen> stub, replying on -code
[04:28] <mpt> carlos, I'm a short person.
[04:28] <carlos> :-P
[04:29] <jtv> Did we leave out the commercials this time?
[04:29] <kiko> flacoste, we can try tomorrow, but otherwise sat am or monday
[04:30] <flacoste> kiko: fine, either tomorrow or monday
[04:30] <kiko> maybe late tomorrow I can muster the energy
[04:33] <cprov> stub: can you help me to setup a READ_COMMITTED transaction for a doctest in test_system_documentation.py ?
[04:59] <pgquiles> I have two accounts, one of them was created automatically by Ubuntu. I cannot merge them because the e-mail address of that one no longer exists. What can I do?
[04:59] <jjesse> quick question on ssh keys, what are the correct permssions to have on the file to allow me to upload to launchpad?
[04:59] <mdz> kiko: I am trying to help someone confirm their e-mail address in LP
[04:59] <mdz> they say that they entered the address, but didn't receive the confirmation email
[05:00] <salgado> pgquiles, add a question in https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion pointing the account with the email address you don't have access anymore
[05:02] <salgado> jjesse, I don't see what you mean. what file are we talking about?
[05:02] <pgquiles> salgado: thank you, I've done that
[05:08] <jjesse> slagado: when i got to checkout a branch from launchpad i get an an error that my ssh key is unprotected and not the right permissions
[05:13] <spiv> jjesse: your ~/.ssh/id_dsa (or ~/.ssh/id_rsa) file probabaly has the wrong permissions, it should not be group- or world-readable.
[05:13] <spiv> jjesse: "chmod 600 ~/.ssh/id_dsa" will p;robably fix that warning.
[05:15] <jjesse> spiv: ok thanks 
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #115257 in launchpad "Bcfg2 trunk importing stopped" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115257
[06:55] <kiko> mdz, when that happens they need to go talk to #canonical-sysadmin
[06:57] <Hobbsee> hiya kiko-fud 
[06:58] <kiko-fud> hey there
[06:58] <kiko-fud> bbiasb
[07:17] <mdz> kiko-fud: elmo says he can't arrange for it to be resent; who can?
[07:43] <kiko-fud> mdz, the end-user can, themselves.
[07:44] <mdz> kiko: how?
[07:44] <mdz> the only option I saw on that page was to add a new address
[07:44] <kiko> mdz, just visiting their email addresses page. there's an option to resent a validation mail if the user has an unvalidated address.
[07:45] <kiko> mdz, if the user doesn't have an account then they just need to request a new password for that email address
[07:45] <mdz> https://launchpad.net/~shane-bryan/+editemails doesn't show such an option
[07:45] <kiko> mdz, that user only has one email address, and it is already confirmed.
[07:46] <mdz> kiko: on other pages, I see a 'confirmed email addresses' portlet
[07:46] <mdz> how do I know that it's validated?
[07:47] <kiko> the preferred email address is always validated
[08:39] <jwendell> Hi
[08:40] <jwendell> i'm subscribed for bugs in vino package; There's a bug where it was created a task in vino; I rejected that task; Why am i still receiving mails from that bug?
[08:40] <jwendell> bug 57803
[08:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 57803 in xorg "fonts do not diplay when run in X" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57803 - Assigned to Micah Cowan (micahcowan)
[08:43] <Hobbsee> because you still get bugmail if it's rejected?
[08:44] <matsubara> jwendell: bug 83488
[08:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 83488 in malone "Implicitly unsubscribe bug contact when bug is Rejected" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83488
[08:45] <Hobbsee> hiya matsubara 
[08:45] <jwendell> matsubara, thanks
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #115303 in rosetta "vmware-server install link error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115303
[10:38] <bdmurray> somebody might want to look at 31581
[10:38] <bdmurray> and the recent comments
[10:41] <salgado> thanks bdmurray. we're on it
[10:42] <bdmurray> cool, no problem
[10:42] <FtS> hey how can I translate XChat to portuguese?
[10:42] <kiko> dude
[10:43] <kiko> totally not office safe bdmurray!
[10:44] <bdmurray> I didn't bother to look
[10:44] <kiko> me and my big ideas
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #115322 in launchpad "Need a script to delete offensive comments and attachments from a user" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115322
[11:26] <thumper> morning
[11:34] <ajmitch> morning thumper 
[11:34] <kiko> thumper!
[11:34] <kiko> ajmitch!
[11:34] <ajmitch> kiko!
[11:34] <kiko> how's wednesday?
[11:36] <thumper> kiko!
[11:36] <thumper> ajmitch!
[11:36] <thumper> kiko: wednesday has been and gone
[11:36] <thumper> it is Friday now
[11:36] <ajmitch> now, we have a glorious friday
[11:37] <ajmitch> morning jml :)
[11:37] <jml> morning