[02:29] <gnomefreak> !envyu
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[02:29] <gnomefreak> !envy
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[05:11] <MugginsM> I have to say, I'm disappointed in Gutsy so far. it's all far too stable
[05:14] <MugginsM> I've had to compile and install firefox-trunk just to get my need for crashiness satisfied
[05:16] <crimsun> MugginsM: orly?  Well, just sudo rm /boot/{initrd,vmlinu}*
[05:16] <crimsun> then you'll have plenty of fun
[05:16] <Toma-> get rid of stdc++
[05:16] <Toma-> :D
[07:43] <gortiz> any one knows why my x-server is crashed after my last upgrade?
[07:43] <gortiz> I have updated xserver-xorg and after the reboot it doesn't recognize the fglrx drivers....
[07:44] <gortiz> I have also updated the restricted drivers using aptitude.. but it doesn't change..
[07:44] <gortiz> the only way to make x work is use the xorg-ati drivers..
[07:44] <gortiz> any fix for it?
[07:44] <Hobbsee> gortiz: wait, i guess?
[07:45] <Hobbsee> it's an x transition - it's going to break
[07:45] <gortiz> ok Hobbsee, I'll wait..
[07:45] <gortiz> it is not a problem.. i think that it was a bug.. but if it is only for a transition it's ok..
[07:45] <gortiz> :)
[07:45] <gortiz> thanks.
[07:46] <gortiz> see you later..
[07:46] <gortiz> bye
[09:22] <hyper_ch> hiho, do Gutsy images already exist?
[09:26] <Hobbsee> no
[09:27] <hyper_ch> Hobbsee: how to get gutsy then? alter the sources?
[09:27] <Hobbsee> yes
[09:29] <ccooke> How broken is it, so far?
[09:35] <Hobbsee> ccooke: somewhat.
[09:35] <Hobbsee> knetworkmanager stuff is broken
[09:35] <Hobbsee> but workaroundabel
[09:35] <Hobbsee> s/el/le/
[11:21] <humbolto> Is pulseaudio going to replace esd totally in gusty? Gnome project does make the switch, doesn't it? Or already has.
[12:20] <Pumpernickel> humbolto: If upstream switches, I can't see the Ubuntu devs maintaining an older branch without a very good reason.
[12:22] <soc> does someone know when the current updates to X are finished?
[12:23] <soc> what are the plans: Xorg 7.2 + xserver 1.3 or Xorg 7.3 + xserver 1.4?
[12:26] <soc> jemand da?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> "when they're done"