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[09:47] Mithrandir: I don't remember, was it you who took some notes for the isotesting tracker BoF ? === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:48] stgraber: hm, I don't think I did it, no. I could check, can you remind me tomorrow? (I'm not really here today, it being a public holiday and all) [09:48] Mithrandir: ok :) [09:48] Mithrandir: so, if it's a holiday, why are you on irc? [09:49] well, it's for me as well :) [09:49] which holiday? [09:49] constitution day and ascension day. === andruk [n=chatzill@c-67-166-6-250.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:50] right === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:59] morning jono === bdgraue [n=bdgraue@dyndsl-085-016-082-089.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:00] hey [10:01] oh no, it's master duck bacon. [10:01] Hobbsee: 'duck bacon', how would that work? [10:01] Treenaks: master bacon, lover of ducks [10:01] Hobbsee: ah :) === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-devel === persia [n=persia@p1033-ipbf37marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:26] turducken [10:27] Spads: Sure. [10:27] Jono Turducken. [10:27] Um, whatever you say. [10:27] hiya Spads [10:27] howdy, Hobbsee [10:27] :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@cable-85.28.95.83.coditel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hile [n=hile@nblzone-240-170.nblnetworks.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shiyee [n=Shiyee@homer.cs.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pochu [n=emilio@10.Red-83-59-168.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === amitk_ [n=amit@a81-197-130-222.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:15] <_StefanS_> hi there === duese [n=Ident@p5484dd42.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:15] <_StefanS_> any plans for including networkmanager 0.6.5 in gutsy? [11:15] is it in Debian? [11:15] <_StefanS_> uhm dont know where to check ? [11:15] packages.debian.org? [11:16] <_StefanS_> uhm, let me check [11:16] debian unstable has 0.6.4 === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:16] <_StefanS_> hmm nope.. [11:16] _StefanS_: has 0.6.5 been released? === bart [n=Bartissi@ip-83-134-147-80.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:17] hello everyone [11:17] <_StefanS_> Treenaks: uhm well, dont know :) - all I know is that the svn has 0.6.5 with leap support in it [11:17] _StefanS_: leap? [11:17] <_StefanS_> Treenaks: wireless leap [11:17] <_StefanS_> Treenaks: cisco's peap implementation [11:18] <_StefanS_> Treenaks: used very broadly [11:18] _StefanS_: never heard of it :) [11:18] <_StefanS_> Treenaks: I know the gnome-applet for network manager does support it in the latest version [11:18] <_StefanS_> Treenaks: I was going to add support for it in knetworkmanager [11:19] <_StefanS_> Treenaks: but then i stumbled upon the !=0.6.5 ;) [11:19] _StefanS_: It's been released since 20-04.. so I guess it's just a matter of time [11:19] <_StefanS_> Treenaks: do you think it will make it for gutsy? cant remember the debian freeze date [11:20] though I've heard a lot of people complain about the 'wifi-centric' approach n-m is taking.. completely ignoring things they don't like (pppoe, bluetooth networking) [11:20] <_StefanS_> Treenaks: well isn't that the common nominator in gnome stuff ? (no pun intended) === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:21] <_StefanS_> sad really. [11:21] _StefanS_: it's not because of the gnome thing... it's really just the upstream authors of n-m [11:22] <_StefanS_> Treenaks: oh wait, my mistake. It is the freedesktop ppl that is maintaining it [11:22] <_StefanS_> Treenaks: sorry. [11:22] <_StefanS_> nevertheless they should broaden themselves a bit. [11:22] yeah, I agree completely [11:24] <_StefanS_> hmm well, I might package that 0.6.5 to begin with, it seems like I wont get far without n-m support for LEAP [11:24] <_StefanS_> gui works though ;) === bart [n=Bartissi@ip-83-134-147-80.dsl.scarlet.be] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ik] [11:25] <_StefanS_> Treenaks: thanks for the help === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has left #ubuntu-devel ["have] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.98.80] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.98.80] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.98.80] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dpm [n=dpm@p54A11124.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jgoss [n=josh@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy_ [n=cassidy@11.230-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.152] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.1.138.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cymcy [n=cymcy@d213-103-89-170.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gutera [n=gutera@201.22.152.57.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Demitar [n=demitar@c-212-031-190-120.cust.broadway.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jovans [n=jovan@p54B07DB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === agoliveira [n=adilson@200.146.40.59.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua@116.21.100.188] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dpm [n=dpm@p54A11124.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-devel === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.24] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pirast [n=pirast@p508b1d76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pirast [n=pirast@p508b1d76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === adam0509 [n=benoit@stc92-1-82-227-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@cable-85.28.95.83.coditel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bdgraue [n=bdgraue@dyndsl-085-016-082-089.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jovans [n=jovan@p54B07DB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pirast [n=pirast@p508b1d76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pbn [i=pbn@2002:d447:1366:0:0:0:0:2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pbn [i=pbn@2002:d447:1366:0:0:0:0:28] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pbn [i=pbn@2002:d447:1366:0:0:0:0:18] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chrysn [n=chrysn@86.59.50.121] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jovans [n=jovan@p54B07DB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vciaglia [n=vciaglia@host180-248-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:12] hi, is there Mozilla-Composer on amd64 ? [02:13] vciaglia: for gutsy? [02:13] gnomefreak: no, feisty === persia [n=persia@p1033-ipbf37marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:14] vciaglia: nope [02:14] vciaglia: gutsy will have it named iceape [02:14] oh, ok [02:14] thank you [02:14] yw [02:15] vciaglia: iirc mozilla-suite was removed from feisty and nothing replaced it. and seamonkey/iceape replaces that and has composer with it [02:15] is gutsy going to have iceweasel/icedove a la debian ? [02:15] sn0: no firefox and thunderbird [02:16] iceape is the only thing we (mozilla-team) took from debian [02:16] i had heard canonical/ubuntu had made a deal with mozilla over the copyright thing recently [02:16] and the reason for that and not the weasel/dove gnomefreak ? [02:16] just so i know :) [02:16] yes [02:17] okay :-) [02:17] we agreed to the license afaik there might have been some dealing in there but im not sure about that all i know is we agreed to it === sn0 sits pretty waiting for icedove 2 in sid [02:18] sn0: its being worked on and uploaded today ( i believe for sid.) [02:19] the maintainer stated that an hour or 2 ago [02:19] gnomefreak brilliant , i have had the packages.qa.debian.org open for a while now, is there somewhere else that incoming is listed? [02:20] sn0: not sure, maybe ftp.debian.org? [02:20] (also waiting patiently on pidgin-otr for i386) [02:20] incoming.debian.org, sn0 :P [02:20] ah thanks Fujitsu [02:21] even better than packages.qa :) [02:21] ty Fujitsu [02:21] packages.debian.org seems a bit old as debian has iceape 1.1.1-3 and it still shows 1.1.1-2 as newest [02:22] it seems experimental does not yet have the newer one, or any [02:22] That's always out of date. 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[04:11] for example how is the daily "update" performed ? is there a daemon running or so ? [04:11] Tonio__: via /etc/cron.daily/apt [04:12] mdz: thanks === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=jack@p508d9754.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === dyrne [i=pike@server1.freeshells.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.13.244] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter === fsmw [n=Fernando@200.72.33.75] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shirish looks for jani === pkl [n=phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pkl is now known as pkl_1 === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.234] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-c80200dc79ceb949] has joined #ubuntu-devel === timmay [n=tima@rrcs-72-43-53-171.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:46] Is there anyone here working with the Lexmark driver dev kit? I would like to help on getting the X6100 series working. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:48] Does anyone know if the recordings from the UDS VOIP lines are available? [04:52] evand: try in #canonical-sysadmin [04:53] evand: they aren't yet, but they should be soon. It'll be announced too. [04:54] Thanks shawarma and Ng === dpm_ [n=dpm@p54A125A3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:05] Ng: eta? === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AF74D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:11] iwj: you going to be around daytime tomorrow? I'd like to run my dpkg-architecture change for lpia by you so you can bop me over the head if it's too crackful. === sn0 [n=sno_@cpc3-blfs6-0-0-cust294.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:11] Mithrandir: Sure. [05:11] great, thanks. [05:12] iwj: just prodding you on IRC works or should we set a time? [05:12] Catch me after 1000Z and I should be around with a not wholly unreasonable response time. [05:12] ok, good. [05:12] Before then I might not yet be caffeinated :-). === Yasumoto [n=joe@trailers66.chapman.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:15] Is there anyone here working with the Lexmark driver dev kit? I would like to help on getting the X6100 series working. === phoenix24 [n=phoenix2@59.176.27.187] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.13.244] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === dpm_ is now known as dpm === phoenix24 [n=phoenix2@59.176.27.187] has left #ubuntu-devel ["up] === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.106.227] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Treenaks [n=martijn@thuis.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Treenaks [n=martijn@thuis.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hggd1 [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-94-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-94-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A72027.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:36] gutsy has broken keyboard in X since I upgraded X:-( AltGR does no longer work. === acm [n=acm@p57BCC882.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arador [n=dcg@158.pool80-103-2.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blackska1 [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:04] timmay, I do most of the printing stuff in Ubuntu and I am also leading the OpenPrinting project. Unfortunately, I did not do anything with the Lexmark DDK. [06:06] tkamppeter: Does/will the OpenPrinting project support that Lexmark printer? === antonym55 [n=antony@58.60.135.140] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=jack@p508d9754.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tsmithe [n=toby@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ubuntunutzer [n=chatzill@p54bc56ee.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@3-33.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === psusi [i=hidden-u@iriserv.iradimed.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ubuntunutzer [n=chatzill@p54bc56ee.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:32] after years of positive experiences with debian and all kinds of tests with other distributions i am deeply impressed by Ubuntu Feisty. that is all advantages of debian enhanced by usability at a very mature state. [06:32] fantastic job of all you guys === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:32] yah: http://www.linuxpowertop.org/powertop.php [06:33] that's a nice tool [06:33] It's in the new queue now :) [06:34] wow! === tkamppeter_ [n=till@bl7-127-153.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:34] bug 114417 [06:34] Launchpad bug 114417 in Ubuntu "Please sync powertop from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114417 [06:34] hopefully it'll be available here soon :) [06:35] no need to open sync bugs for new packages in Debian [06:35] I was reading a good article about it just now at http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/05/16/1742204 [06:35] they are synced automatically === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:36] seb128: ok, will remember it :) === pirast [n=pirast@p508b1d76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@94.230-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@94.230-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:54] morning all === bonii [n=boni@unaffiliated/bonii] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:01] timmay, see also this link about making Lexmarks work: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83456.html === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-243-30.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:17] is there a better channel than #ubuntu for support questions? [07:17] no [07:17] why do you ask? === jle [n=jjlehto3@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Znarl [n=znarl@jewel.roundabout.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:19] well [07:19] example: i have a problem to mount my cam. some dude suggests to use gthumb which imports pictures from existing filesystems. thats kind of pointless [07:24] freezone: have you tried the users mailing list, the forums or a local team? [07:25] yeah [07:26] there is a hint in some asian language that directs to a special link with a driver [07:27] freeflying: are you sure you can mount your cam? afaik not all cams appear as usb-storage [07:27] but i am unsure if i need to build a driver manually if the chipset is obviously detected === Treenaks feels dirty.. I had to hexedit fglrx to make it work === antonym55_ [n=antony@58.60.135.140] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:40] has there been any discussion about versioning community docs per-release? [07:40] in what sense? [07:41] Burgundavia: so that you don't have separate subsections for each version of Ubuntu [07:41] on the wiki? [07:41] yes [07:42] do you have a sane suggestion of making it easy? [07:42] Burgundavia: Possibly [07:42] shall we move to -doc? [07:42] sure, didn't know there was one :) === sanders [i=nes@ppp-70-224-212-33.dsl.applwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jovans [n=jovan@p54B07DB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@82.152.169.97] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gpocentek is now known as mr_pouit_ [07:52] iwj: ping === mr_pouit_ is now known as gpocentek [07:55] Hi. [07:56] If you told me a bit more about what you wanted to talk about then I would be able to provide a more useful reply right away. [07:56] Content-free pings are a bit useless really. [07:56] iwj: that looks like a retarded script :) [07:57] there is a script for it === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-105-117.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:00] Hobbsee: yep, but it doesn't have a "wait 300" :) === vciaglia [n=vciaglia@host120-93-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pbn [i=pbn@2002:d447:1366:0:0:0:0:18] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:10] It's not a script. But if I had one I might put `wait 300' in it just to make sure the contentless-pinger had to hang around pointlessly some more :-). [08:16] psusi: ^^ping === mpt_ [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:22] elmo: http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/20070517-00 [08:23] :( [08:24] elmo: just the messanger dude === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.107.200] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stijn_pol [n=liesbet@d54C42B3E.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === micahcowan [n=micahcow@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:31] sladen: pong === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:32] iwj: howdy... I see that you modified devmapper to allow udev to create the dev nodes... I was wondering if you sent those changes upstream? [08:33] psusi: No, and we're going to revert them. [08:33] So lucky upstream :-). === siti [n=siti@clix-jaquesmartin-nz.cpe.clix.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee__ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:41] we are? why? [08:42] I'm working right now on merging that package with debian's newer version [08:43] I'm wondering how I should merge the changelog... keep ours and add a line that says I merged with debian's changes, or just insert all of our changes into theirs? [08:43] hmmm. breakage === mpt_ [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host122-198-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:44] i.e. should it show 1.0ubuntu0, 1.0ubuntu1, 1.1, 1.1ubuntu0: merged === bdgraue [n=bdgraue@dyndsl-085-016-105-227.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.136] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:49] debian has added 2 new entries to the changelog... we have like 8.... should I just take our 8 and add a new one saying I merged with debian, or should I actually add the two new entries from debian? [08:50] psusi: seen the merge-o-matic? [08:50] psusi: Please don't merge that libdevmapper udev device node stuff. [08:50] psusi: take the copy that debian has, put that in Ubuntu. If you add some patches aswell then document those in the changelog [08:50] Or rather, leave it in our version if you like. [08:51] Sorry, for a moment I thought you were talking about merging our changes into a Debian package, but you mean to make a package for gutsy. [08:51] For the moment that should have all of our changes. [08:52] Hobbsee: sort of [08:52] psusi: For the spec about reverting part of the udev thing and generally doing it differently, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UdevLvmMdadmEvmsAgain. [08:52] But I have to go away now and have dinner and things. [08:52] iwj: huh? I'm merging the new upstream version with ours... keeping our changes [08:52] Right. [08:52] Good, that's fine. Carry on :-). [08:52] I just misunderstood you. [08:52] Good luck. [08:53] sladen: no, we aalready have diverged from debian, and now I am trying to merge with debians' new version [08:53] oh dammit, i'll need a sponsor for this. [08:53] psusi: You don't need to worry about that spec but it's FYI if you want it. [08:53] cool === iwj goes, really. Goodnight everyone. [08:53] thanks [08:54] now, we forked from debian in 1.08... since then we have had several ubuntu versions [08:54] debian since then has had 2 new versions and is currently on 1.18... [08:55] so the question is, when I merge the changelog... should it show 1.08, 1.08ubuntu0, 1.08ubuntu1... then 1.12, 1.18, 1.18ubuntu0: I merged here? === antonym55 [n=antony@58.60.135.140] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:12] mr_pouit: " * Repack orig tarball to remove upstream debian directory.", that doesn't make sense [09:12] mr_pouit: the changes can go to the diff.gz === sn0 [n=sno_@cpc3-blfs6-0-0-cust294.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj files +bug/115295 === robertj files <*ahem*> bug #115295 [09:13] Launchpad bug 115295 in app-install-data-commercial "vmware-server package has broken pam settings that won't let you log in" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115295 [09:14] 21:10 < seb128> mr_pouit: the changes can go to the diff.gz << and generate an ugly one :( [09:14] mr_pouit: and? [09:15] who read the .diff.gz anyway? [09:15] better to use the upstream tarball as orig [09:15] so we don't conflict with Debian when we try to sync because we have different tarballs [09:15] I do the same change in debian [09:15] it's extra work [09:16] and the md5sum doesn't match upstream [09:16] don't [09:16] my sponsor preferred that I remove the upstream debian/ dir that having a huge diff.gz, so :/ [09:16] who is he? [09:17] you should talk to upstream and tell them to not ship the debian dir with the tarball [09:17] yes === sn0 [n=sno_@cpc3-blfs6-0-0-cust294.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:20] 21:13 < seb128> and the md5sum doesn't match upstream <<< then why repack the orig tarball to add a missing license rather than patching? that's a similar issue [09:20] mr_pouit: yes, there is case were you need to repack it [09:21] mr_pouit: changing the debian dir is not one of those [09:21] the reason we ask people to repack the .orig.tar.gz for missing licences is so that the .orig.tar.gz is legal to distribute in isolation [09:22] ok [09:22] (personally I think it's overkill, but I understand why some archive admins prefer to ask for it) [09:22] morning, cjwatson [09:24] evening [09:24] mr_pouit: who is your Debian sponsor? === Hobbsee wishes the shoestring link to australia wasnt so crap. [09:24] seb128: for this package it was daniel baumann [09:25] seb128: but I changed since (but haven't updated this package since) [09:25] k, I was just curious, I would have pinged him on IRC if he was somebody I know ;) [09:25] ok ^^ [09:27] anyway, no big deal, I just wanted to mention that you don't need to make a new tarball only to drop the upstream debian dir [09:28] ok === Hobbsee taps fingers. === Hobbsee needs a faster machine. [09:32] wtf? === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === psusi adjusts his glasses [09:38] psusi: ? [09:39] seb128: ok, this is really disturbing === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:39] seb128: I just upgraded gnumeric (and related goffice libraries), and my panel crashed [09:40] Chipzz: why is that disturbing? [09:40] seb128: these were the only packages involved: gnumeric-common libgoffice-0-3 libgoffice-0-common libgsf-gnome-1-114 [09:40] (and gnumeric) [09:40] seb128: because gnumeric wasn't running, and gnome-panel isn't linked to any of these libraries [09:41] which means that upgrading totally unrelated stuff can crash the panel? === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:41] Chipzz: bug 85776 [09:41] Launchpad bug 85776 in gnome-panel "[apport] gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV on package installation, valgrind log required" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85776 [09:41] seb128: if you didn't know, it's still present in gutsy ;) [09:41] the panel crashing would be understandable (I'm not saying acceptable, just understable), if the panel was in any way related to these packages at all [09:42] I've tried to get it crashing under valgrind, but seems it only crashes without it :/ [09:42] pochu: we had no sign of it been fixed, that's why the bug is not closed ;) [09:42] :) [09:42] nobody managed to get a valgrind log though [09:42] so it's of no real use :/ [09:42] only thing I can imagine is overwriting of the icons causing this [09:42] errr [09:42] .desktop files [09:42] I ran gnome-panel for some time under valgrind and we fixed the bugs I spotted [09:43] but my panel don't crash often [09:43] seb128: I've just installed more than 100 packages with valgrind, without a crash :/ [09:43] might be due to some setting I'm not using [09:43] Chipzz: I think it's icon cache related [09:43] seb128: it does here ~ twice a week [09:43] but without a valgrind log === pkl [n=phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pkl is now known as pkl_ === glatzor [n=sebi@88.134.194.143] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:43] pochu: maybe you could run the panel under valgrind for a week ;) === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:43] we need a log to get it fixed === drixter [n=drixter@mobile.lan.pl.ipv6.e-utp.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:44] seb128: does it restart somehow when I do "gnome-session-remove gnome-panel && valgrind blablabla gnome-panel"? [09:44] seb128: I'll run it until we fix it, but I turn off the laptop on the night ;) [09:44] what do you mean, restart? [09:45] if you use gnome-session-remove you stop it [09:45] and then run it under valgrind === Yasumoto [n=joe@trailers66.chapman.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:46] will try to get it [09:46] thank you === drixter [n=drixter@mobile.lan.pl.ipv6.e-utp.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [09:46] some time ago I installed kubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop to get it, without a crash!! :/ [09:46] hehe :) [09:47] I ran the panel under valgrind a lot before feisty [09:47] I got some invalid read to the icon cache code which have been fixed to GTK+ [09:47] but looks like that was not enough [09:47] if the panel doesn't crash, the logs are useless? [09:47] no [09:48] look if there is some Invalid read to them [09:48] and not to ld code [09:48] valgrind list invalid usages [09:48] argh, I've removed my last log :) [09:48] they don't always lead to a crash [09:48] will check with next one :) [09:51] curious question - what will happen if i upload something to ubuntu with a debian version? [09:51] Hobbsee: you will be treated with a large stick [09:52] siretart: yay. anything else? [09:52] Hobbsee: I asked tollef this question. Technically, your upload will be accepted [09:52] right. [09:52] Hobbsee: what do you mean by "version"? number? [09:53] it'll be accept [09:53] seb128: yes [09:53] Hobbsee: anything else? you will be beaten with it [09:53] hrm.... I'm trying to compare my merged package .diff.gz with the interdiff I ran against the old ubuntu package vs the common base to make sure I didn't leave out any of the ubuntu specific changes from the merge [09:53] Hobbsee: we do use -1 for some ubuntu specific packages [09:53] seb128: i'ts not a native package [09:53] but of course, yes. [09:53] but if I interdiff the new .diff.gz with the old interdiff, interdiff fails with a failed hunk message if I give it -p1, but works without the -p1, but it thinks everything is new since the first directory name is different [09:54] using the ubuntu versioning just make it easy to know when a package has been changed for Ubuntu [09:54] what gives? why would interdif fail? [09:54] and not conflict with Debian === lfittl [n=lfittl@chello080109027166.17.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:54] seb128: i've got something that i'm planning to get uploaded to debian, but would prefer to get it uploaded to gutsy first to check it doenst break the entire universe [09:54] debian being debian, and all that... [09:54] Hobbsee: upload with 0ubuntu1 [09:55] I'd say so since it will probably take 2 years to get it uploaded to debian ;) [09:55] seb128: the package is the same - it'll be synced in future. [09:55] then upload to debian with -1 [09:55] and ask a sync [09:55] that's what we do for GNOME packages when we upload faster [09:55] yes, if you're uploading to Ubuntu first please use -0ubuntu1 [09:55] we use 0ubuntu1 [09:55] and ask a sync when Debian has the -1 [09:55] mmmm...dammit === Hobbsee was hoping to shortcut. [09:56] Hobbsee: what does it shortcut? [09:56] (and only need 2 lots of sponsoring, instead of 3) [09:56] the versions in both places by definition can't be the same [09:56] you don't need 3 [09:56] since you need a different distribution line in debian/changelog [09:56] you need 2 and a sync [09:56] seb128: sync requires a sponsor, too. [09:56] there's no Ubuntu->Debian sync procedure to allow working around that [09:57] hrm... wonder if I should try to refactor devmapper while I'm at it to use dpatch [09:57] oh yeah, there's a thought. it *would* get rejected with unstable [09:57] Hobbsee: well, getting sync approval is fast enough, just ping me and say they are the same package and I'll sync it ;) [09:57] hehe [09:57] yes, that's why I asked if you spoke about version number only === Lure [n=lure@89.212.141.168] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:58] seb128: sorry, didnt realise what you were asking, i'd forgottne about unstable. it's still pre-6am here. [09:58] sync are easy [09:58] upload to gutsy with 0ubuntu1 [09:58] get -1 to Debian [09:58] and let me know when you need the sync [09:58] right [09:58] oh fricking hell === Hobbsee cant type a passphrase *again* [09:59] you should be sleeping at pre-6am ;) [09:59] seb128: true. jetlag and all [09:59] err.... === Hobbsee pokes imbrandon with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [10:00] ... ? [10:00] imbrandon: you didnt happen to change the buntudot account passwords, did you? [10:00] (ssh) [10:01] err no i dident know anyone was still using that space, the domain exires this month so i was gonna let it go [10:01] hrm [10:01] right, okay [10:01] no problem === Hobbsee has other places, too [10:01] 2 choices, you can use your shell on aurora [10:01] or i can renew buntutudot [10:01] upto you :) [10:01] imbrandon: nah, it's cool [10:02] rember you have a shell on all the buildd'd too :) [10:02] s/'d/'s/g [10:02] this is true. i was meaning the webspace. [10:02] ahh i can put webspace on the buildd for you , only take me a minute [10:02] one sec [10:03] imbrandon: seriously, dont worry - i've got other places too. [10:03] i was just going to use that as it was faster. [10:03] (and not australian) [10:04] Hobbsee, too late , already dont , restarting apache now, one sec [10:04] lol [10:04] oh well. yay, more webspace :) [10:04] if you've got it done, of course i'm going to use it :P === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.151] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:07] Hobbsee, ok http://hobbsee.ubuntuwire.com points to ~/public on aurora [10:07] all setup and ready [10:08] see all personalized domain and all [10:08] imbrandon: great, thanks :) [10:08] :) [10:08] woo :) [10:08] hels to have a buddy server admin , shhhh [10:08] helps* [10:08] hehe, of course. [10:09] friends in high places are always good. [10:09] btw since dreamhost couldent handle the dugg ubuntustudio.org , guess where it is now :) [10:09] heheh [10:09] imbrandon > dreamhost [10:10] haha [10:10] anyhow /me is off for a nap === ivoks [n=ivoks@37-183.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@mar92-13-88-165-255-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:14] night imbrandon === reitblatt [n=mark@70-128-147-165.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === crimsun_ [n=crimsun@ils00187.dhcp.unc.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bryce [n=bryce@71.237.200.28] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:23] imbrandon: did us.org take down all fo dreamhost? [10:26] Burgundavia, pretty much, then they shutdown the site saying they couldent handle it and wanted 230$ a month for a dedicated server [10:26] ouch [10:26] so i said i would host it, i put it on the same box as imbrandon.com and only sitting at a 0.45 load avg [10:26] I assume it is headed for the dc then? === flithm [n=kvirc@blk-89-205-21.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:26] yea its at my DC right now , I work in one of the largest DC's in the USA [10:27] the advantages of the ubuntu community [10:27] sladen: ping [10:27] Burgundavia, some vanity pics of my work .... http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/gsi/ [10:27] :) [10:28] hey everyone, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask... I'm trying to find out what it takes to get a new package into the offical (contrib) package tree? Can anyone point me in the right direction? [10:28] shin [10:28] shiny, rather [10:28] flithm, REVU and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU are good places to start [10:28] flithm: #ubuntu-motu is the correct place for that [10:28] and #ubuntu-motu [10:28] yea [10:28] hehe [10:29] thanks guys... sorry for the OT [10:29] no worries [10:29] np [10:29] I am in a hostel in Madrid watching Kill Bill 1 [10:29] surrounded by a large number of Vancouverites [10:29] the world is a very wierd place [10:29] heh , i just got off a 12 hour shift, about to hit the sack after a shower [10:29] hehe === j_ack [n=jack@p508D9754.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === math_b [n=mathieu@vbo91-2-82-239-207-88.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:39] Burgundavia: I hope it's not dubbed :) [10:41] nah, english dvd [10:49] well, I think I've managed to merge devmapper [10:49] now I create a bug report and upload the debdiff then subscrube... which group was it for sponsorship? [10:50] isn't there an ubuntu-archive group? [10:50] Amaranth: ubuntu-archive is not a sponsor team [10:50]