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ryanakca | good changes or no? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwarePackagingFormats?action=diff | 04:28 |
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ryanakca | oops, fixed typo... main interest is the diff going from rev 17 to rev 18 | 04:30 |
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Derffred | Greetings all... | 07:58 |
Madpilot | evening | 07:59 |
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mdke | kwah / crimsun: wiki.u.c is for coordinating ubuntu development and teams; help.u.c is for documentation | 08:51 |
mdke | see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImproveWebsiteStructure for plans to try and decrease the confusion over that | 08:53 |
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shirish | guys does anybody know of any page either in the wiki or at help.ubuntu.com/community or otherwise where people can find info. about xserver.xorg and the various ways to find stuff | 04:39 |
shirish | anybody other than ubotu , please respond ;-) | 04:41 |
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jjesse | shirish: what exactly are you looking for? | 04:47 |
jjesse | shirish: were you succesful in searching the wiki? | 04:47 |
shirish | jjesse: nope, actually I was looking for info. regarding xserver-xorg as now there are many things in there which could help us trouble-shoot & find if Xwindows is not being displayed | 04:48 |
shirish | I have been reading a bit about xserver-xorg at lists.freedesktop.org | 04:50 |
jjesse | shirish: sorry you couldn't find any | 04:52 |
jjesse | shirish: you can always write the wiki pages when you find the ionofrmation you are missing | 04:53 |
shirish | jjesse: I just wanted to re-check if somebody has already put some info. somewhere & I didn't look properly | 04:53 |
shirish | it might also have a different name so I have no idea | 04:53 |
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EverythingEvil | if I want to create some doc pages that arent on the wiki yet, how do i go about doing that? | 06:10 |
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jjesse | EverythingEvil: just start editing the page | 06:16 |
EverythingEvil | it says immutable | 06:16 |
jjesse | what wiki page? are you on help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com? | 06:16 |
EverythingEvil | wiki.ubuntu.com | 06:18 |
EverythingEvil | i want to make ContinuumOnFeisty | 06:18 |
EverythingEvil | eventually get it put on help.ubuntu.com | 06:20 |
jjesse | when i go to wiki.ubuntu.com/ContinuumOnFeisty it asks if i want to create a page | 06:21 |
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EverythingEvil | ok i got it, it was those search pages | 06:36 |
EverythingEvil | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ContinuumOnFeisty | 07:12 |
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Burgundavia | this has existed since hoary days | 07:42 |
Burgundavia | earlier, really | 07:43 |
robertj | Recap: Some wiki pages are getting very cluttered with out-dated information that will be useful to some people, particularly LTS users | 07:43 |
Burgundavia | are there specific pages you mean? | 07:43 |
robertj | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server for instance | 07:44 |
Burgundavia | in general if the differences are slight, seperate sections the same page are ok | 07:44 |
Burgundavia | if changes are large, make a subpage | 07:44 |
Burgundavia | basically, we need better methods of communication around the help wiki | 07:45 |
robertj | Burgundavia: I was thinking perhaps a MoinMoin plugin to redirect based on browser version might be helpful | 07:46 |
Burgundavia | that would require seperate pages for everything | 07:47 |
robertj | Burgundavia: Yes, or some worse kind of markup | 07:47 |
Burgundavia | hmm | 07:47 |
Burgundavia | I haven't seen anything that requires such a technical measure | 07:48 |
Burgundavia | I would rather work on the communication side | 07:48 |
robertj | Burgundavia: suggestions? | 07:51 |
Burgundavia | help communicate with existing editors on the help wiki on the existing standards | 07:52 |
Burgundavia | fix up those standards | 07:52 |
robertj | are there any written standards? | 07:52 |
Burgundavia | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide | 07:54 |
Burgundavia | those need work | 07:54 |
Burgundavia | please add/change/disuss as you need | 07:54 |
robertj | Burgundavia: btw, I just installed moin locally to poke at a few things to see what might be possible and noticed the GUI editor is actually pretty nice, is that new or is it disabled on w.u.o? | 07:57 |
Burgundavia | I think we need a newer version of moin | 07:57 |
Burgundavia | there is an issue with that, something to do with launchpad auth | 07:57 |
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ryanakca | nixternal: since you seemed to be subscribed to it, mind looking at the changes (17 to 18) I made on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwarePackagingFormats ? Good, bad, what do I change, etc | 10:39 |
Burgundavia | ryanakca: good except for the debian/ubuntu change | 10:40 |
Burgundavia | derivative is a very explicit word that implies understanding about how distros derive off each other | 10:40 |
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