=== AndrewB [n=andy@ubuntu/member/pdpc.student.AndrewB] has joined #ubuntu-doc === merriam__ [n=merriam@85-211-245-180.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lionel_ [n=lionel@ip-61.net-82-216-103.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-doc === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-75-37-101-105.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === kestrel [n=zen_love@wt1.core.wireless.fsr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:28] good changes or no? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwarePackagingFormats?action=diff [04:30] oops, fixed typo... main interest is the diff going from rev 17 to rev 18 === mpt_ [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jonathan@adsl-75-37-101-105.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@80-47-174-84.lond-th.dynamic.dial.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === kestrel [n=zen_love@wt1.core.wireless.fsr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #ubuntu-doc === kestrel_ [n=zen_love@wt1.core.wireless.fsr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === grumpymo1e [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt__ [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Admiral_Chicago [n=Admiral_@adsl-68-255-101-239.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-120-243-30.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Derffred [n=chatzill@71-209-115-157.sxfl.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:58] Greetings all... [07:59] evening === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:51] kwah / crimsun: wiki.u.c is for coordinating ubuntu development and teams; help.u.c is for documentation [08:53] see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImproveWebsiteStructure for plans to try and decrease the confusion over that === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === Derffred_ [n=chatzill@71-209-115-157.sxfl.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Admiral_Chicago [n=Admiral_@adsl-68-255-101-239.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEFEDF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dgold [n=dgold@dsl-51-63.dsl.netsource.ie] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ThiefOfBaghdad [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jonathan@38.115.133.11] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jonathan@38.115.133.11] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@ACCA455A.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.13.244] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:39] guys does anybody know of any page either in the wiki or at help.ubuntu.com/community or otherwise where people can find info. about xserver.xorg and the various ways to find stuff [04:41] anybody other than ubotu , please respond ;-) === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:47] shirish: what exactly are you looking for? [04:47] shirish: were you succesful in searching the wiki? [04:48] jjesse: nope, actually I was looking for info. regarding xserver-xorg as now there are many things in there which could help us trouble-shoot & find if Xwindows is not being displayed [04:50] I have been reading a bit about xserver-xorg at lists.freedesktop.org [04:52] shirish: sorry you couldn't find any [04:53] shirish: you can always write the wiki pages when you find the ionofrmation you are missing [04:53] jjesse: I just wanted to re-check if somebody has already put some info. somewhere & I didn't look properly [04:53] it might also have a different name so I have no idea === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.13.244] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === kwah [n=kwah@d100246.upc-d.chello.nl] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === EverythingEvil [n=garrett@cpe-65-189-223-189.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:10] if I want to create some doc pages that arent on the wiki yet, how do i go about doing that? === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:16] EverythingEvil: just start editing the page [06:16] it says immutable [06:16] what wiki page? are you on help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com? [06:18] wiki.ubuntu.com [06:18] i want to make ContinuumOnFeisty [06:20] eventually get it put on help.ubuntu.com [06:21] when i go to wiki.ubuntu.com/ContinuumOnFeisty it asks if i want to create a page === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:36] ok i got it, it was those search pages [07:12] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ContinuumOnFeisty === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-243-30.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jrshannon [n=jrshanno@S0106000f3d5cf89d.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robertj [n=rcaskey@cai17.music.uga.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:42] this has existed since hoary days [07:43] earlier, really [07:43] Recap: Some wiki pages are getting very cluttered with out-dated information that will be useful to some people, particularly LTS users [07:43] are there specific pages you mean? [07:44] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server for instance [07:44] in general if the differences are slight, seperate sections the same page are ok [07:44] if changes are large, make a subpage [07:45] basically, we need better methods of communication around the help wiki [07:46] Burgundavia: I was thinking perhaps a MoinMoin plugin to redirect based on browser version might be helpful [07:47] that would require seperate pages for everything [07:47] Burgundavia: Yes, or some worse kind of markup [07:47] hmm [07:48] I haven't seen anything that requires such a technical measure [07:48] I would rather work on the communication side [07:51] Burgundavia: suggestions? [07:52] help communicate with existing editors on the help wiki on the existing standards [07:52] fix up those standards [07:52] are there any written standards? [07:54] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide [07:54] those need work [07:54] please add/change/disuss as you need [07:57] Burgundavia: btw, I just installed moin locally to poke at a few things to see what might be possible and noticed the GUI editor is actually pretty nice, is that new or is it disabled on w.u.o? [07:57] I think we need a newer version of moin [07:57] there is an issue with that, something to do with launchpad auth === mpt_ [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@canonical/launchpad/mpt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@88.134.194.143] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ubuntu/member/gwaihir] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:39] nixternal: since you seemed to be subscribed to it, mind looking at the changes (17 to 18) I made on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwarePackagingFormats ? Good, bad, what do I change, etc [10:40] ryanakca: good except for the debian/ubuntu change [10:40] derivative is a very explicit word that implies understanding about how distros derive off each other === jrshannon [n=jrshanno@S0106000f3d5cf89d.vc.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === jrshannon [n=jrshanno@S0106000f3d5cf89d.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-120-243-30.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan_ [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc