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gardengnomeDaviey: pong12:58
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Davieyhey01:00
gardengnome:)01:00
gardengnomesup?01:00
DavieyHow's the mythweb stuff going?01:00
DavieyFrom what i heard you talking about - are you adding htaccess? :)01:01
gardengnomefor svn? i haven't had time/incentive ;) to work on it more. it *should* be working, but i haven't tried it yet completely because i coudln't get a feisty vm running01:01
gardengnomeno01:01
gardengnomealthough that'd be a good idea.01:01
gardengnomeshouldn't be too hard01:01
DavieyI think that would be great - it's crazy not having htaccess already!01:02
gardengnomeyup01:02
Davieyif you google, there are lots of unsecured mythwebs!01:02
gardengnomei thought it was in place already till i installed feisty.01:02
gardengnomeheh01:03
DavieyWhat's new in svn mythweb?01:03
gardengnometrue01:03
gardengnomeum01:03
gardengnomethere's a new editor for the settings table AFAIK01:03
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gardengnomethe mp3act code is there for mythmusic, although i dunno if that wasn't in 0.20 already01:03
grndslmyou guys ever use lvm?01:04
gardengnomei haven't had a chance to take a closer look because the main board in the myth box broke and i just can't be bothered to replace it at the moment.01:04
Davieygrndslm, yeah01:04
gardengnomeDaviey: oh, streaming support is improved. if you provide your own flash video player, you can even have something like youtube.01:05
grndslmDaviey:  have you ever had a problem with myth filling up the drive?01:05
gardengnomeDaviey: in 0.21, mythweb will come with its own flash player :)01:05
Davieygardengnome, Are you adding your new mythweb packages to universe?01:05
grndslmDaviey:  the 2 drives i was using are apparently full now, and i can't mount the logical volume anymore...01:05
grndslm:-(01:05
Davieygrndslm, hmm - set myth to autoexpire, and leave free space :)01:06
gardengnomeDaviey: no. svn trunk packages don't belong into universe. they need to be kept well-hidden in a separate repository01:06
grndslmDaviey:  it was set to do that01:06
grndslmand leave at least a gig or two free, but...it didn't listen01:06
gardengnomeDaviey: if i get around to making the htaccess stuff happen, i'm sure these changes will propagate to universe :)01:06
Davieygrndslm, is it a permissions problem?01:06
grndslmDaviey:  no, i'd catch something like that01:06
Davieygardengnome, do you want a hand adding htaccess?01:07
gardengnomemythtv tends to fill up my hard disk as well although i told it to leave space free. it's probably mythtranscode who doesn't respect this, or some temp files might interfere01:07
Davieygrndslm, and it won't let you _mount_ it?01:07
grndslmpvdisplay (or was it lvdisplay) kept saying that both drives are full...01:07
grndslmi'm not at the computer now, internet's down at my apt...01:07
gardengnomeDaviey: no, i really should learn debconf. that's a good opportunity01:08
Davieygardengnome, good stuff!  look forward to seeing it01:08
grndslmDaviey: yes, a simple mount /dev/BigVG/Filez /archive should have done it...but kept saying bad superblock or whatever the crappy mount error is01:08
gardengnomeDaviey: if i don't talk to you till sunday or so, please feel free to bug me again about it. i've promised a lot of things already but real life keeps interfering.01:08
gardengnomethe svn packages themselves already look quite good, though01:08
gardengnomenew GF is time consuming. heh. :)01:09
Davieygrndslm, might be worth running fsck01:09
grndslmDaviey:  and if that doesn't work?01:09
Davieygardengnome, you need to lock yourself in a room (soundproof'd)01:09
grndslmthere's no way i can mount it...and i'd have to start over?01:09
Davieygrndslm, to be honest - i can't be too much help - it 'just works' here01:10
gardengnomeDaviey: that's no fun :)01:10
Davieygrndslm, should be recoverable tho01:10
gardengnomeok, i got to go. it's 1am here01:10
grndslmDaviey:  yea, i know what ya mean...not sure why myth let it overflow01:10
Davieygrndslm, might sound obv. but have you tried googling the exact error message's your receiving?01:11
Davieygardengnome, nn01:11
grndslmDaviey:  that's the thing...don't have internet at the mythbox anymore01:11
grndslmbut only errors i got basically said logical volume was full, and the typically regular mount superblock error01:12
DavieyAre you definitely mounting the vg?01:14
Davieyie /dev/vg/storage01:14
grndslmyup01:14
grndslmDaviey: it was mounting fine in fstab up until i got back from my vacation01:14
Davieyand vgscan definitely showed it ok?01:15
Davieyno mention of locking failure?01:17
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Davieyhey superm101:39
superm1Hi Daviey01:39
Davieyhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5114 Yah!01:40
superm1awesome01:40
Daviey:)01:40
superm1did keescook upload too then?01:41
Davieysuperm1, got an initial font pack up'd to revu01:44
superm1awesome already?01:44
superm1that was quick!01:45
DavieyI'm doing two packages.  Red Hat has released 'liberty' fonts - so i made a deb for them01:45
Davieythen i'll make another that depends on that01:45
Davieythe other package being the symlinks01:45
Davieyhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=515801:45
Davieyhad to issue a .patch as i named it -ubuntu1 rather than -0ubuntu101:46
superm1ah01:47
superm1what package were you going to make to depend on this?01:47
superm1i see a potential problem having the License.txt in two places01:48
superm1its in debian and in the root01:48
superm1for the src package01:48
Davieygrr01:48
Davieywhere should it be?01:48
superm1well it just shouldnt be in debian/01:48
superm1since its not used for building01:48
superm1these are intended to replace what fonts particularly?01:49
superm1do you know01:49
Davieyyeah, wait 101:50
superm1also, if your not doing any symlinks in this package, you won't need dh_link01:50
DavieyTimes New Roman, Arial and Courier New01:50
superm1are there any others provided by msttcorefonts?01:51
superm1also you dont want the COPYING file in debian/01:51
Davieyokay, i'll sort that01:51
superm1well i was going to say01:51
Davieymsttcoreconts has webdings and comic sans - not sure they are easily replaceable01:52
superm1just in this package do the fake-msttcorefonts business01:52
Davieywell ttf-liberation deserves it's own package as it should be able to co-exsist with msttcoreconts01:52
superm1you could just make two binary packages out of it though01:52
superm1a ttf-liberation01:52
superm1and a fake-msttcorefonts01:52
superm1and fake-msttcorefonts would conflict with msttcorefonts01:52
superm1but depend on ttf-liberation01:53
Daviey(that's what i was planning :)01:53
superm1but i'm saying do it right out of this source package01:53
superm1dont bother with two source packages01:53
DavieyI was doing it seperate as fake-msttcorefonts will probably need more future maintaince01:54
superm1you mean because of comic sans and webdings?01:55
Davieyyeah01:55
Daviey& impact01:55
DavieyAndale Mono01:55
superm1you see this: http://mondaybynoon.com/2007/04/02/linux-font-equivalents-to-popular-web-typefaces/01:56
DavieyComic Sans MS, Tahoma, Trebuchet &Verdana01:56
DavieyThat's a good site01:56
DavieyI started trying to find my own simialars01:57
Davieyand had some quite good success01:57
superm1considering a lot of those others are shipped already though01:57
superm1you might be able to do the fake-msttcorefonts right in this package01:57
superm1or depend on a few other font packages at least01:57
Davieyyeah01:58
superm1keescook, thx for the revu and +1.  Did you upload it as well?01:58
superm1oh Daviey, i talked to DaveMorris a bit today.  Made some progress last night on glade01:58
superm1for ubiquity01:58
superm1i have all the gui done, but i'm having a hard time merging it with the existing ubiquity.glade01:59
DavieyI thought liberation fonts deserved it's own package anyway - but fake-msttcorefonts might need some fonts it it aswell01:59
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Davieysuperm1, i know - i read the log - i was online, just not in this chan... DaveMorris didn't tell me until after grr01:59
keescooksuperm1: sorry, I didn't.  I wanted to check with another revu'er before pulling the trigger.  I'm still shy from getting slapped a few weeks back.  ;)01:59
superm1hehe01:59
superm1understandable01:59
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superm1well keescook one more for you if you get a few moments:  mythbuntu-artwork-usplash.  http://revu.tauware.de./details.py?upid=5140  rogue780|mythsvr got some nice new artwork together.  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/~supermario/mythbuntu/mythbuntu_bootup.jpg for it live in action :)02:00
keescooknice.  :)02:01
superm1keescook, what package did Mithrandir slap you for ?02:01
Davieysuperm1, i tried the usplash on my 16:10 screen and it didn't look too bad - but slightly out of proportion02:01
keescookmythtv and the /home/mythtv stuff I didn't see in the one update.02:02
superm1oh right02:02
superm1that was a few months ago though, not a few weeks :)02:02
superm1sorry for not realizing myself about what debian rules said02:02
superm1didnt mean for you to get slapped :(02:02
Davieysuperm1, usplash - just tried installing it on my edgy mythbox and it is still ubuntu official :s02:05
superm1Daviey, that's odd...02:05
superm1but its fine on feisty02:05
superm1(and) gutsy02:06
Davieyhmm - might become a problem if we backport02:06
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superm1well i wasn't planning to backport it02:06
superm1but its good to know there isnt even an option :)02:06
Davieynice..... manually installing it works - looks great eh!02:10
superm1keescook, thx for the other quick revu :).  No changes were made to the .c, so I didnt put down my name on it as copyright02:12
keescookah, excellent.  I suspected, but couldn't tell.  :)02:13
keescookI'll see what others think, and when I'm slightly bolder, I'll get them uploaded if other REVUrs agree too02:14
superm1as you can see that one has been around the block to lots of revu'ers too :)02:14
superm1Daviey, every time i make progress on this glade file, glade-3 decides to get unstable02:17
superm1i swear i need to save each time i make the smallest "wink" of progress.02:18
Davieyhaha02:18
Davieywhat designer are you using?02:18
superm1glade 3.2.002:19
superm1comes in the glade-3 package02:19
superm1do you know of others?02:19
Davieynot really02:19
Daviey3.2.1 has been released tho02:19
Davieyfixes "Workaround for inputdialog crashes (bug 433975) - Juan Pablo Ugarte"02:20
superm1is that a debian bug 433975?02:21
superm1or gnome bug 43397502:21
ubotuGnome bug 433975 in general "crash in Glade Interface Designer: Changed selection from D..." [Critical,New]  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43397502:21
superm1nope thats not my common crash02:21
superm1mine is when deleting labels02:22
Davieyhave they still not added a 'preview' option to glade?!02:25
superm1well its a gui designer, but no no previews02:25
superm1i've got a pretty good idea of what its supposed to look like though when i'm doing the design02:26
superm1ooh i think i finally understand what i need to do02:29
superm1things in a gtknotebook need to be pasted in the order they will show up02:29
superm1the position parameter has no bearing on location02:29
superm1just the order it appears in the xml file02:29
Davieyah02:30
superm1well i for one think that is dumb, but whatever.  as long as it works02:32
=== Daviey is doing a fresh co - how did it get so big? :S
Davieyeither that or my connection is slow02:33
superm1its huge again02:34
superm170 megs02:34
superm1i dont know how...02:34
superm1its not binaries this time02:34
superm1i think its because ubiquity's source is 30 something megs02:34
Davieyi thought bzr only kept diffs as history.. maybe not02:37
superm1it was 70 megs after the first upload02:37
DavieyIt's annoying that you can't just co head - i don't need revision history atm02:37
superm1ye ai know02:38
superm142 of it is .bzr directory02:38
superm1supermario@portablemario:~/Software/source/mythbuntu/.bzr$ du -sh02:38
superm142M     .02:38
Daviey /mythbuntu/ubiquity/src/ubiquity-1.4.1mythbuntu1/ubiquity/frontend/ubiquity.glade  <---- is that what your editing?02:41
superm1Yes02:41
superm1its been a long process to edit it too...02:41
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Davieysuperm1, before you go to work tomorrow - can you commit?   I won't work on it, but i would like to see it02:44
Daviey:)02:44
superm1Of course02:44
superm1i wanted to have it commited by now actually,02:44
superm1its a shame they're taking so long to do02:44
superm1from when you went to bed yesterday, i worked on them until i went to bed :)02:44
Davieyhehe02:45
Davieytbh - i'm not exactly experienced with glade02:45
DavieyI've done little more than 'hello me' apps using it02:45
superm1well this is the first step that jared pointed out to be necessary02:46
superm1before the behind the scenes work needs to get going02:46
DavieyGonna be fun resync our changes with a new upstream release of Ubiquity eh?02:47
superm1oh god..02:49
superm1i didnt even think about that02:49
Davieysuperm1, something else - have you read the mythtv-mailinglist?02:51
superm1about what?02:51
DavieyRE: ubuntu-media-centre02:51
superm1what about it?02:51
superm1what does the thread say02:51
DavieyUbuntu is dropping myth in favour of eliza etc02:51
superm1not dropping02:51
superm1the media center team02:51
superm1is using elisa instead02:51
superm1no bearing on us02:51
superm1for the purpose they are shooting for - i dont blame them02:52
superm1really, myth isn't a desktop media center app, elissa fills that gap much better02:52
Davieyoh i know we aint dropping it - but mailing list seemed to think we were02:53
superm1sigh.02:54
superm1we're not ready for a public announcment of mythbuntu02:54
superm1it really is a shame :)02:54
Davieyi know - that's why i kept quiet02:55
Davieyother's haven't :(02:55
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superm1really?02:55
Davieymythbuntu project has been mentioned in the thread02:55
superm1interesting...02:56
Davieybut not the url, just the launchpad addy02:56
superm1well the LP address LINKS to the url...02:56
Davieyhttp://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/26972102:56
superm1yay juski02:57
Davieydidn't notice it was from him02:57
superm1well the mythbuntu post wasnt from juski, but he did defend the purpose of mythtv02:59
Daviey"I love MythTV very much & find it hard to imagine my life without it. " -- Juski       Might print it on a t-shirt for when i meet him02:59
superm1and this post.  Sums up my same thoughts02:59
superm1So really.. the thing is WHO CARES the Ubuntu Media Center team have02:59
superm1'dropped' MythTV anyway? They saw 'bling', were dazzled - and made02:59
superm1the *wrong* choice. All that glisters is not gold...02:59
superm1http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/269779#26977902:59
superm1thats what i meant02:59
DavieyAnyway, i've done it again - it's 2:00am03:00
DavieyCatch you tommorow03:00
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jamssuperm1-  yes you may package the themes03:01
superm1oh jams your are the one who did the lxm suite themes?03:01
jamsyes03:02
jamsi forgot to change the license, i will do that next update03:02
jamswhenever that i03:02
jamss03:02
superm1well i wont be able to package them until the license change unfortunately03:02
Davieyjams, Your the MePo character creator - Glenn?03:02
superm1i mailed you as I didnt even catch license problem that myself when i first packaged them03:02
jamsheh, it says "unauthorized"  you are now authorized03:03
superm1Daviey, he worked on the LxM Suite themes, syth blue, green and laquer03:03
jamsand that awful theme midnight03:03
superm1jams, can you speak with crimsun momentarily in #ubuntu-motu?03:03
jamsmotu?03:03
Daviey #ubuntu-motu03:03
jamswhats motu stand for03:04
superm1yes, they look over the packages, and crimsun caught that03:04
superm1maintainers of the universe03:04
jamsah03:04
Davieymaster of the universe (repository)03:04
superm1i packaged it, but they need the final +103:04
superm1er give it03:04
superm1so crimsun was the one that caught that license mishap03:04
superm1i completely read over it myself03:04
Davieysuperm1, so we still haven't heard from the MePo guy?03:05
superm1Nope Daviey03:05
DavieyThat's a shame03:05
jamseh he also hangs out in #mythtv-users once in a while03:05
Davieyjams, do you know his nickname?03:06
superm1well the guy who did the artwork or the xml files03:06
jamsstarts with a z03:06
superm1because we have the +1 from the xml files guy03:06
jamsoh right, his mepo guy is taken from another project03:06
superm1right03:06
Davieyjams, it's from a media centre for windows app, that somebody used in a mythtv theme03:07
jamsyeah i know03:07
jamssuperm1-  if you get around to fixing some of the unfinished screens be sure to send the patches my way =)03:08
DavieyAnyway, i'm off to bed...  nn all03:09
superm1night Daviey03:09
superm1jams, looks like crimsun is havin connection troubles.  i'll let him know that you gave the OK for packaging, but i'm not sure that we will be able to get them in until the license that is shipped with the file itself is updated03:09
superm1because the way ubuntu licensing guidelines work, it cant be an exception made just for us03:10
superm1it has to be available to any other distro or our derivatives03:10
jamsok03:10
jamsat any rate, glad you asked.  Even for gpl stuff I always consider it good forum to ask03:11
jamsforum=form03:11
superm1:)03:11
superm1could you ping me when things are updated license wise - or at least shoot a mail over?03:11
jamssure03:12
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superm1awesome thanks03:12
jamsfar as i know it's just me and two other people using the theme03:12
superm1"using"?03:12
jamsusing the theme for their myth desktop03:13
superm1well i guess the download count on there wasnt incredibly high03:13
superm1but its hard to gauge isnt it?  I mean I dont advertise all the themes i use in blogs or posts or anything :)03:13
jamsyep03:13
jamsthose counters have been reset a few times03:14
jamsmostly due to my tinkering03:14
jamsi thought for sure somebody would complain about the 2 or 3 unfinished screens03:14
jamsbut so far, nobody has03:14
superm1well there was a complaint on -users03:14
superm1in the same thread i asked if we can get them into mythtv svn03:14
jamsi vaguely remember a thread like that03:16
jamsa year or two ago?03:16
superm1about a year ago i think03:17
superm1but there was no response03:17
superm1it was a few months before i started with ubuntu packaging03:17
jamsi had already asked, long before that thread03:17
jamspeople got busy, i never pushed  so nothing happened03:18
jamssimple as that.03:18
superm1ah03:18
superm1well once this licensing is sussed out, we'll have you as an option during mythbuntu installation03:19
superm1i'm going to have two checkboxes, official themes and community themes for advanced installs.  std installs will install by default.  so that will get some more exposure03:19
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rogue780|mythsvrwow, I'm  impressed. with edgy running mythbackend, nfs server, samba server, and printer server stuff would stop working before it would reach 15 days time up. with feisty I'm at almost 19 days with no problems :)05:53
Davieyheh - fancy re-installing mine06:02
Davieyi'm scared06:02
Davieyneed to do a full db dump and all06:02
gardengnomere06:11
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DaveMorrisDaviey: You fancy documenting it06:22
DaveMorristhen when I do mine I can check it and we can put it out for people to follow06:22
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steve_hello hello12:20
steve_is there anybody awake?12:20
gardengnomedepends on what you expect :)12:22
steve_some of your precious time ?12:22
steve_:)12:23
steve_i'm trying to make the tv-out on my new install work12:23
steve_have been reading and trying for several hours, no success so far...12:23
gardengnomeso12:25
gardengnomecan you give us more information on your hardware and on what you have done so far?12:26
steve_nvidia 660012:26
steve_new install is the feisty release12:26

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