[02:53] <JoeyJoeJoe70> Hi there
[02:54] <JoeyJoeJoe70> I have a newbie question re: telnet and ubuntu server
[02:55] <JoeyJoeJoe70> I'm getting 'connection refused' when trying to telnet to my server. Is it that telnet is not installed? How can I find out (real newbie, here)
[02:57] <ajmitch> no, telnet isn't installed, nor should it be
[02:58] <ajmitch> ssh is a much better secure replacement
[02:59] <JoeyJoeJoe70> I know but I'm just using it at home behind a firewall
[03:03] <JoeyJoeJoe70> how do I install sshd then? I am using webmin to access/configure my server and I'm being told ....
[03:03] <JoeyJoeJoe70> "he SSH server config file /etc/ssh/sshd_config was not found on your system. Maybe SSHD is not installed, or your module configuration is incorrect.:
[03:04] <ajmitch> apt-get install openssh-server
[03:04] <ajmitch> ah, webmin
[03:05] <ajmitch> so you have no commandline access right now?
[03:05] <JoeyJoeJoe70> precisely. I will have commandline access if I get up off the couch though. :)
[03:06] <JoeyJoeJoe70> I will go run apt-get install openssh-server and follow my nose from there.
[03:06] <JoeyJoeJoe70> How do you remote in from outside the network? I've used no-ip client before. Would that work?
[03:07] <ajmitch> depends on how your routing is setup
[03:10] <JoeyJoeJoe70> using dd-wrt on my Linksys router
[03:12] <JoeyJoeJoe70> Thanks ajmitch. I'm in now with openssh-server
[06:33] <NemesisD> hi im trying to walk my boss through getting some data off of a tape drive but unfortunately i don't know what im doing
[06:34] <NemesisD> its plugged in via an adaptec pci adapter and he can't see it in lspci and can't see the drive in lshw -C disk nor device manager, whatn ext?
[06:35] <Fezzler> could someone help me complete smb.conf?
[06:35] <Fezzler> newbie first samba install
[06:37] <Fezzler> no takers?
[06:44] <Fezzler> help configuring samba for Vista box?
[09:19] <Fezzler> samba question
[12:16] <jimcooncat> I'd like to make a shared folder for all users on one computer (not a SAMBA shared folder) like /home/company. Where do I go for help on this?
[12:21] <jimcooncat> is umask the key?
[12:24] <qiyong> shipit ships desktop or server CDs?
[12:44] <svschwartz> qiyong: shipit ships only desktop cds
[12:45] <qiyong> svschwartz, it it documented somewhere? they should
[12:46] <svschwartz> qiyong: I think it's because of small demand for server edition :) 
[12:51] <qiyong> svschwartz, server edition seems not quite popular
[12:51] <qiyong> svschwartz, the stikers are bad
[12:51] <qiyong> svschwartz, they pollute your fingers
[12:52] <qiyong> svschwartz, does it work with pxeboot?
[12:53] <svschwartz> qiyong: I don't think so. Admins demand server edition, and it's faster and easier to download it rather to request on shipit
[12:54] <svschwartz> qiyong: you want to boot ubuntu server by means of pxe ? :)
[12:54] <qiyong> svschwartz, install by pxe
[12:56] <svschwartz> let's see
[12:56] <svschwartz> I've installed debian 
[12:57] <svschwartz> they've got netinst image, where you can take linux kernel and initrd image for network installation
[12:59] <svschwartz> aha
[01:00] <svschwartz> there you go :)
[01:00] <svschwartz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[05:30] <gubluntu> how do i tell grep not to be sensitive to case
[05:30] <gubluntu> and how do i tell curl not to output html tags
[05:31] <gubluntu> you have 30 seconds
[05:31] <gubluntu> jk
[05:31] <gubluntu> any help is appreciated
[05:31] <gubluntu> rtfm solved this
[05:32] <gubluntu> thanks!
[05:54] <robert-b> Hello
[05:56] <robert-b> Can anyone tell me if the server 7.04 documentation is available in PDF yet? The doc page on lulu.com says go back to the ubuntu.com doc page to download it but I've looked for more than an hour and can't find it.
[06:08] <robert-b> I fsomeone knows where to find the latest server PDF I'd appreciate hearing from you.
[06:10] <robert-b> hi Greg
[06:11] <gregbuntu> howdy
[06:11] <ivoks> hi
[06:12] <robert-b> hi ivoks
[06:12] <shawarma> robert-b: https://help.ubuntu.com/pdf/ubuntu/C/serverguide.pdf   looks like the most recent pdf version.
[06:13] <robert-b> Thanks, Shawarma. A quick check finds it's for version 6.06 :(
[06:13] <ivoks> right
[06:14] <ivoks> all server should be LTS
[06:14] <ivoks> except if you really need virtualisation
[06:14] <gregbuntu> if anyone is interested, here is solution for making grub work for my ubuntu install on ibm netfinity 5500 with hardware raid 5: update the scsi controller firmware
[06:14] <gregbuntu> solved my grub error 18 issue
[06:14] <robert-b> I was just looknig for something specific to 7.04. If there is no difference between it and 6.06 then I can just use the latter.
[06:15] <ivoks> use it
[06:16] <ivoks> depends on hardware
[06:16] <ivoks> it's possible to have hardware that will work with 7.04, but not with 6.06
[08:51] <FlyingSquirrel32> how can I search for a package by either part of a name or even a description with apt-get without a gui?
[08:58] <mralphabet> google for ubuntu package, should get you to the package manager web interface
[08:58] <mralphabet> I don't remember the url off the top of my head
[09:18] <FlyingSquirrel32> thanks
[09:29] <mralphabet> it's packages.ubuntu.com isn't it
[09:29] <mralphabet> I doubt I'll forget that one again
[10:39] <FlyingSquirrel32> mralphabet: sorry, didn't see your other response. yes it is. I didn't realize i could search it that way. Thanks.
[10:41] <mralphabet> heh
[11:12] <tideline> is 0415 the latest build of the server iso?
[11:13] <mralphabet> tideline: sounds right
[11:13] <mralphabet> tideline: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ agrees
[11:14] <tideline> mralphabet: is that the released version of feisty server ?
[11:15] <mralphabet> yes
[11:15] <tideline> I ask because I had a little trouble with it after the install and wanted to know if I could attribute it to a nightly build problem
[11:15] <tideline> ok cool - thanks - will troubleshoot 
[11:16] <tideline> is there somewhere I can get or start working with gusty?
[11:17] <mralphabet> not sure, I usually only run release
[11:17] <mralphabet> not even sure they have really started working on it since the conference . .. last week?
[11:18] <shawarma> mralphabet: We started almost a month ago. :-)
[11:19] <tideline> ah ok, I wanted to get involved with the server team, I currently work in a all RH shop and want to cut costs, but we have a lot of sparc here too, so it's a good place to test
[11:19] <tideline> well RH and solaris 
[11:19] <shawarma> mralphabet: Development of each release starts on the day we release the previous one.
[11:19] <shawarma> tideline: Cool.
[11:19] <mralphabet> shawarma: ahh heh
[11:20] <tideline> shawarma: where can I get started?
[11:20] <shawarma> tideline: What do you want to do?
[11:20] <tideline> anything ;-)
[11:20] <shawarma> tideline: Well, #ubuntu-motu is a good place to start.
[11:20] <shawarma> tideline: The MOTU's handles everything in universe (package things, fix bugs, etc.)
[11:21] <shawarma> tideline: If that's a bit over the top for you, you can help out by triaging bugs on launchpad.
[11:21] <tideline> shawarma: ok, will check there, like I said, I think I have a good background in what a "server" offering needs to have/be in an enterprise setting
[11:22] <shawarma> tideline: Ah, so you're looking for more of a highlevel approach?
[11:22] <shawarma> tideline: planning features and that sort of thing?
[11:22] <tideline> kinda - but I'm not above triage duty too 
[11:23] <shawarma> tideline: heh
[11:24] <tideline> oh man gonne be late for the baseball game... gotta run shawarma thanks for the info will check back in again later tonight
[11:24] <shawarma> tideline: We track feature requests on launchpad (in the blueprint section https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ )
[11:24] <tideline> ok weill make a note
[11:24] <shawarma> tideline: That would be a good place to suggest new features or feature sets.
[11:45] <ajmitch> hello shawarma 
[11:50] <shawarma> ajmitch: Good evening.
[11:50] <shawarma> Or morning or whatever.
[11:51] <shawarma> You've made it back to NZ?
[11:51] <ajmitch> apparantly so
[11:52] <ajmitch> after a long swim
[11:52] <shawarma> Well, you had wifi access in Singapore, no?
[11:52] <shawarma> Heh..
[11:52] <ajmitch> hong kong
[11:52] <shawarma> Ah, right.
[11:53] <ajmitch> enough to check that nothing had blown up
[11:53] <ajmitch> how's it going, anyway?
[11:55] <shawarma> Just finishing off the last few things at uni. Last day is the 25th.
[11:55] <shawarma> quite a few loose ends to tie up, it seems.
[11:55] <shawarma> You?
[11:55] <ajmitch> excellent
[11:55] <ajmitch> just the usual work
[11:58] <ajmitch> started planning/working on the server stuff?
[11:59] <shawarma> Well... Sort of. I'm not sure how it's going to work now that it's not "my" project anymore.
[11:59] <ajmitch> true
[12:00] <shawarma> The next thing to do is basically to grab all of the existing solutions and see how much we can use and how much we have to write ourselves.
[12:01] <ajmitch> no doubt there'll be a fair bit
[12:01] <ajmitch> good luck with it :)
[12:01] <shawarma> It seems eBox does a lot of it already, so that would be an excellent starting point if it wasn't written in perl. Now it's just a so-so starting point. :-)
[12:04] <shawarma> I'm just curious why noone picked it up yet..
[12:04] <ajmitch> getting a consistent interface for all this isn't simple
[12:05] <ajmitch> so people end up using something like webmin
[12:05] <shawarma> No, it's not. eBox does look shiny and consistent, though.
[12:05] <ajmitch> and perlish :)
[12:05] <shawarma> Yeah. 
[12:06] <shawarma> With eBox I find myself looking for defects large enough to justify not using it since perl gives me the creeps. :-)
[12:06] <shawarma> I haven't found them yet (on the surface that is), but that may change when I start digging through the code.
[12:07] <ajmitch> you want something maintainable