| fdoving | _StefanS_: my hack works, but konqueror crashes when trying to open audiocd:/?device=/dev/scd0 - ejecting works though :) | 12:15 |
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| _StefanS_ | fdoving: hmm, maybe we should just put the device node thingy inside the kio_unmounter thing | 12:15 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: nevermind, my hack works. just had to install konqueror from the same build. | 12:16 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: oka fine :) | 12:17 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: does your work? i belive they do exactly the same thing in different places. | 12:17 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: well I had to create a QString first, and you sort of beat me to it | 12:17 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: should work, yes | 12:18 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: neverming, please tell Tonio_ about it, he asked me about it recently | 12:18 |
| _StefanS_ | neverming/nevermind | 12:18 |
| _StefanS_ | I will just go on with the knm/leap thingy | 12:18 |
| fdoving | what's that? | 12:19 |
| fdoving | the disconnected-state thing? | 12:19 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: nope, the LEAP support in knetworkmanager | 12:19 |
| fdoving | oh. ok. | 12:19 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: like PEAP | 12:19 |
| _StefanS_ | yep, the localhost/127.0.0.1 i dont know about | 12:19 |
| _StefanS_ | saw your comment on that bug about the network awareness you could disable to solve it | 12:20 |
| _StefanS_ | however I feel that it should be fixed though. | 12:20 |
| fdoving | some magic dcop call from /etc/network/if-up.d/ to set the connectionstate would be nice. | 12:21 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: uhm yep, but do we need knm to fiddle with on/offline settings at all? | 12:21 |
| fdoving | or just drop the networkstatus-thing at a whole, it's useless anyway, if you're not online you'll get problems doing things online. | 12:21 |
| _StefanS_ | sort of the same thing I'm saying, just in a different place :D | 12:22 |
| fdoving | _StefanS_: no, but do we need a daemon in the background always saying "we're online, there are no programs running to tell me otherwise", if we just disable that app, i belive it would be solved. | 12:23 |
| _StefanS_ | fdoving: yes you're right... seems worthless anyways. | 12:23 |
| fdoving | i'm not aware of anything smart that daemon does. | 12:23 |
| fdoving | maybe some kmail magic. | 12:23 |
| fdoving | it's in kdepim so.. | 12:23 |
| _StefanS_ | I say we lose it | 12:24 |
| _StefanS_ | but that may be up to some discussion later on.. | 12:24 |
| fdoving | yep. | 12:24 |
| _StefanS_ | gotta hit the bed, the kid wakes up at 6.30 tomorrow morning. | 12:24 |
| _StefanS_ | see you tomorrow probably | 12:25 |
| fdoving | yeah, me too. | 12:25 |
| fdoving | nite. | 12:25 |
| _StefanS_ | nighty ! | 12:25 |
| manchicken | Wife == zzz | 12:33 |
| manchicken | Err, Wife.status() == ZZZ | 12:33 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 12:33 |
| mhb | manchicken: you didn't tell us much | 12:36 |
| mhb | manchicken: is the result true or false | 12:36 |
| mhb | ? | 12:36 |
| manchicken | mhb: Not any more. | 12:37 |
| manchicken | You asked too late. | 12:37 |
| ajmitch | hey manchicken | 12:37 |
| manchicken | The real code block would be... | 12:37 |
| manchicken | while (Mike.notBusy()) { Wife.sleep() }; | 12:37 |
| manchicken | ajmitch: Howdy. | 12:37 |
| mhb | manchicken: well you coded a comparison (==) , so I wondered if that returns true or false | 12:38 |
| manchicken | Did about 3 minutes ago. Doesn't now :) | 12:38 |
| mhb | manchicken: I'm unable to compile adept from SVN today :o) too many "undefined references" | 12:39 |
| manchicken | mhb: Do you have libept and all of that installed? | 12:40 |
| manchicken | That was the hard part for me. | 12:40 |
| manchicken | All of the new dependencies. | 12:40 |
| manchicken | libtagcoll | 12:41 |
| manchicken | Okay, I'm gonna boogie. | 12:41 |
| mhb | manchicken: yeah | 12:41 |
| mhb | manchicken: it compiles fine | 12:41 |
| mhb | manchicken: but seems to "not find the libraries" | 12:41 |
| manchicken | Well look closely at what it says it's linking and what paths it's looking at. | 12:42 |
| mhb | manchicken: there is only a "libtagcoll2-dev" package, no "libtagcoll2" lib ... hope that's not an issue | 12:42 |
| manchicken | I'm gonna go chill with my wife for now. | 12:42 |
| manchicken | Naw, the packages are named weird. | 12:42 |
| mhb | manchicken: see you later | 12:42 |
| mhb | manchicken: mostly complaining about tagcoll | 12:42 |
| mhb | another mhb-like stupid question coming up, everyone hide! Okay ... is it normal for KDE to load after the splash screen is gone? | 12:57 |
| mhb | I wait till the splash is gone and then I have to wait the same time before the system is usable | 12:58 |
| mhb | (and I always remind myself how I hate to see the "K" bouncing logo) | 12:58 |
| fdoving | mhb: i guess it is normal for the session to be restored after the splash is gone. | 12:59 |
| fdoving | things you keep in the systray etc. | 12:59 |
| mhb | fdoving: the thing why I ask is because I've heard people complain about this | 01:01 |
| mhb | the splash screen is there in order to hide the system loading | 01:01 |
| mhb | but I see the "incomplete" system even after that | 01:02 |
| mhb | I believe that a clean Kubuntu system should be ready when the splash screen is gone | 01:03 |
| fdoving | isn't it? | 01:03 |
| mhb | I have three computers around, and it is ready on none of them | 01:03 |
| mhb | I always see the "bouncing" K logo painting all over itself (an ugly effect indeed) | 01:04 |
| fdoving | that should be disabled. | 01:04 |
| fdoving | it's ugly and it's easy to disable. | 01:04 |
| fdoving | or replace with something more discret. | 01:05 |
| yuriy | but still, the system isn't all the way up once the splash scren is gone | 01:05 |
| mhb | exactly | 01:05 |
| yuriy | especially when you have a session being restored | 01:05 |
| mhb | yuriy: well, people can expect a delay when they restore several apps like me | 01:05 |
| mhb | yuriy: but on machines I work with, even a clean user does have to wait several seconds | 01:06 |
| fdoving | i doubt there is much we can do about that, we can of course rewrite ksmserver, but i won't do it. | 01:06 |
| yuriy | everything gets launched after the splash screen | 01:06 |
| yuriy | mhb: but one of the things in ksplash (which i know is all bs) is restoring session so i would expect it to do it then | 01:06 |
| mhb | yuriy: true, that's the last icon | 01:06 |
| yuriy | ksmserver is rewritten in kde4, no? | 01:06 |
| mhb | fdoving: I don't expect that from you :o) I just wanted to share the information and ask about it | 01:07 |
| mhb | fdoving: by the way, how can I disable the bouncing K logo? | 01:07 |
| mhb | fdoving: without disabling the other bouncing icons | 01:08 |
| fdoving | mhb: kmenu -> run command 'kcmshell kcmlaunch' | 01:08 |
| fdoving | oh, you like bouncing icons? | 01:08 |
| fdoving | i use a passive busy cursor for everything. | 01:08 |
| mhb | fdoving: no, I hate them :o) but I know other devs do want them in Kubuntu | 01:09 |
| mhb | fdoving: so I wondered if you can disable just the "K" one | 01:09 |
| mhb | fdoving: because that one is completely unnecessary | 01:09 |
| fdoving | not that i'm aware of. | 01:09 |
| mhb | fdoving: well, at least there is somebody who shares my dislike of bouncing icons :o) | 01:10 |
| fdoving | we could probably execute the last step in the ksplash externally from within a startupscript that is loaded from the autostart folder or something like that. | 01:11 |
| fdoving | execute/finish. | 01:11 |
| mhb | that could work | 01:19 |
| fdoving | i'll have a look some day. | 01:25 |
| fdoving | poke me if i forget it. | 01:25 |
| fdoving | now i need some sleep. | 01:25 |
| fdoving | nite. | 01:25 |
| mhb | fdoving: goodnight | 01:26 |
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| Hobbsee | will write results later. | 01:54 |
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| ajmitch | some people get really confused with launchpad | 03:02 |
| ajmitch | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-7 | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: errr....yeah. | 03:03 |
| === ajmitch just saw a kernel install bug filed against it | ||
| Hobbsee | ooh, adept works | 03:04 |
| ajmitch | that's useful | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | err...i shouldnt delete the kernel i'm running. | 03:05 |
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| ajmitch | why not? | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | dunno | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | perhaps i should try | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | any modules you should need should already be running | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | as long as they don't get unloaded & then need reloaded | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | true | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | but still | 03:08 |
| ajmitch | live on the edge a bit | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:08 |
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| Hobbsee | bah. adept crashed. | 03:17 |
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| crimsun | qt frontend for asoundconf 50% complete, testing. :) | 04:12 |
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| Hobbsee | Jucato! | 04:33 |
| Jucato | moin Hobbsee!! | 04:33 |
| === Jucato feels a bit better today... but has to do the laundry... | ||
| Hobbsee | ahh | 04:34 |
| crimsun | qt designer and pyqt are so nice. | 04:34 |
| Jucato | qt4 designer :) | 04:35 |
| crimsun | nope, writing this for 7.10, so no qt4 | 04:35 |
| crimsun | right now it's nicer than its gtk2 counterpart ;) | 04:35 |
| Jucato | well, I meant that I like the default mode of qt 4 designer better :) | 04:35 |
| Jucato | warning: GIMP-ish UI :P | 04:36 |
| crimsun | [actually its gtk2 counterpart is all but unusable by default] | 04:36 |
| Jucato | hm... I'm quite ignorant. what's GTK+'s counterpart to Qt (designer?)? | 04:36 |
| crimsun | I'm referring to asoundconf-gtk | 04:37 |
| Jucato | aaaaaaaah | 04:37 |
| crimsun | try it. It's nasty (no offense to its creator). | 04:37 |
| === Jucato is totally ignorant now :) | ||
| === Hobbsee ponders how best to fix the gtk qt engine brokenness. | ||
| Hobbsee | my firefox and thunderbird looks terrible. | 05:17 |
| crimsun | rewrite firefox and moz-tbird in Qt3? :-) | 05:28 |
| Jucato | lol | 05:41 |
| Jucato | my reactions are late :) | 05:41 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: the other way is to use QtCurve for KDE and GNOME apps :) | 05:41 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: hehe. true | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: firefox has a half-port - unfortunately it's nto complete | 05:46 |
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| Hobbsee | :) | 05:47 |
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| manchicken | w00t! I have to report the bad bacon disease to the federal government! | 07:05 |
| bddebian | bad bacon disease? | 07:05 |
| manchicken | Yeah. I came home from Spain with a weird stomach bug that really caused a high fever and... other problems. | 07:06 |
| bddebian | Joy | 07:07 |
| manchicken | Yup. | 07:07 |
| manchicken | I have to report it to the CDC. | 07:07 |
| manchicken | Or, my doctor did. | 07:07 |
| manchicken | I just have to answer questions. | 07:08 |
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| SlimG2 | When I start konqueror 3.5.6 (kubuntu 7.04), and then a tab with $HOME, and then "View > View Mode > Detailed List View" Konqueror doesn't write a $HOME/.directory file and thus forgets for future use that I prefer "Detailed List View", what's wrong? | 08:14 |
| SlimG2 | If I create $HOME/.directory with "ViewMode=konq_detailedlistview" it works like I want it, so the question is why doesn't konqueror create this file by itself? | 08:16 |
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