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DragnslcrAhmuck- sudo isn't a username12:13
DragnslcrUsing sudo runs programs as root12:14
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Ahmuckok, i understand now.  so i need to login as sudo, and create a user12:14
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Ahmuckunder mysql to use it as sudo or some other user12:14
geniiAhmuck: There is a default mysql user normally with the name of mysql12:14
Dragnslcrsudo isn't a user, it's a command12:14
Ahmuckyes, but sudo mysql lets you into mysql12:15
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DragnslcrRight, because sudo runs the command as the user "root"12:15
blekoshello, what is the normal temparature for cpu?12:15
geniiAhmuck: To run the command mysql as the user mysql from an account which has sudo/su rights, use  su mysql -c "mysql"12:15
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Dragnslcrblekos- normal temperature of what?12:16
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AhmuckDragnslcr: i am confused, i thought mysql could not be run in root?12:17
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blekoshmm, when I do acpi --t is shows me Thermal 1,2,312:17
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mimicciao Eros!12:17
who_is there any way to create an iso 9660 image for a dvd using k3b???????12:17
blekosand are alla bout 67c12:17
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DragnslcrAhmuck- I'm pretty sure you can connect to a MySQL database as root12:17
geniiAhmuck: Mysql is not *supposed* to be run by root, but since root user can override, it will run the command.12:17
mimicciao eros!12:18
erosah ecco12:18
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erosciao12:18
DragnslcrIt may not be a great idea, but it will work12:18
erosero sulla pg sbagliata12:18
mimicAHAHAHA!!!!12:18
who_is there any way to create an iso 9660 image for a dvd using k3b???????12:18
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geniiAhmuck: Also the specific error you are getting on that command s not the program refusing to run but that user root is not allowed to access databases on the machine called localhost12:19
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Iwonder|toohow to get flash working in firefox,for youtube.com videos?12:19
Dragnslcrgenii- no, the user "root" can access databases fine, which is why sudo mysql works. It's trying to connect as user "sudo" that won't work12:20
ubuntu_Does Kubuntu support the sticky bit?12:21
illriginalDoes anyone know how I can access my usb thumb drive so that I may read+write on it? I tried going through the properties and changin the permissions.12:21
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snowdonkeyHey, my blank CD-R discs aren't being recognized, so I can't burn data to them.  I'm not sure how to manually mount a drive.12:21
geniiDragnslcr: What, he put something like su sudo ??12:21
ubuntu_illriginal: are they ntfs formatted?12:21
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Dragnslcr"mysql -h localhost -u sudo"12:21
illriginalubuntu_ no I believe it is actually FAT1612:21
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ubuntu_illriginal: You should have rights to write to it12:22
blekosi'm trying to install hamachi, but cannot find tap/tun any ideas?12:22
illriginalbecause my PS2 was able to recognize it, and that's the only format PS2 accepts.12:22
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geniiDragnslcr: Ah, yeah he put -u sudo LOL12:22
illriginalubuntu is there a command I can type?12:22
illriginalfor read+write access?...12:22
ubuntu_!search hamachi12:23
ubotuFound:12:23
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illriginalit also says 0 bytes free space12:23
ubuntu_illriginal: I'm sure there is. Does the USB come up on your desktop ?12:23
illriginalit's a 4GB thumb drive12:23
illriginalyeah12:23
ubuntu_illriginal: and you can't write to it?12:23
illriginalnope12:23
geniiDragnslcr: He will immediately after correcting to -u root get the root@localhost denied.12:23
illriginalbut my playstation 2 can for some odd reason12:23
illriginalit's fat16.. im pretty sure.12:24
ubuntu_nzk: Yo :)12:24
Iwonder|tooillriginal: type mount12:24
ubuntu_illriginal: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file ?12:24
ubuntu_Or that too12:24
illriginaljust type mount?12:24
Dragnslcrgenii- maybe, depends on if there's a MySQL user named root. I can't remember what it does by default these days12:24
Iwonder|tooalso tail dmesg after plugging it12:24
illriginal/dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)12:25
Iwonder|tooillriginal: it mounted u have read/write access12:26
illriginalhm... it won't let me, ill try to paste a file into it, hold on12:26
Iwonder|tootype ls -l /media/usbdisk12:26
illriginalThere is not enough space on the destination.12:26
illriginallol12:26
illriginalthat's impossible12:26
illriginalit's a 4GB usb drive.12:26
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illriginalthere's only 1 file on there that's about 100mb12:27
Iwonder|tooillriginal: it may be being fat32 can't handle large files12:27
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geniiAhmuck: The best practice is to run the mysql command as the mysql user whenever possible12:27
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Iwonder|tooor its locked physically12:27
illriginalthe file im trying to put into it?12:27
chijina 4gb drive can be formatted to smaller space..12:27
illriginalon the bottom bar12:27
Iwonder|too\some have a lock button like a floppy12:28
illriginalnah12:28
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illriginalno lock button.12:28
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Iwonder|tooillriginal: ls -sh /media/usbdisk12:28
Iwonder|toofor size12:28
Iwonder|tooor df -h12:28
illriginal 32K Documents  1.1M LaunchU3.exe   32K SOCOM3   32K System12:28
sercikhi people!!12:28
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illriginalugh now my dekstop locked up12:29
illriginali can't click on the icons on my deskptop12:29
Iwonder|toohmmm,doesn't seem good12:29
illriginalbrb i need restart.12:29
ubuntu_df -h12:29
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Iwonder|tooguess restarting X didn't occur to him12:30
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aldini have HP drivers for wireless card which are .exe how do i extract them?12:31
ubuntu_Iwonder|too: noobs :012:31
ubuntu_:-)12:31
ubuntu_uptime will get him one day12:31
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sercikyou can try unrar12:31
Iwonder|tooyep12:31
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Daisuke_Idopower outages are the enemy of uptime :\12:32
Iwonder|tooaldin: on the drivers disk,there isn't a drivers folder?12:32
purpleposeidonUPS is your friend, but certainly not mine.12:32
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Iwonder|toonoobs are the enemy of uptime,power outages are fixxed by ups12:32
illriginalwait12:33
illriginali figured it out...12:33
illriginali think.12:33
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illriginalI can cut a folder from my usb drive, paste it onto my desktop then put another file into it...12:33
aldinIwonder|too: i want newer version from hp.com12:33
ubuntu_then you can't write it back12:33
illriginalfor some reason, now ubuntu thinks my usb drive is only 160ish mb12:33
Daisuke_IdoIwonder|too: yeah, once i can afford a suitable UPS that can hold out for a few hours.12:33
jaldharanyone using the KDE4 snapshot packages on feisty and having problems with ksmserver crashing?12:34
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Daisuke_Idoalpha software, of course there are problems.12:34
Iwonder|tooaldin: go to ndiswrapper site,they have links to current drivers12:34
illriginalubuntu_ would it be a good idea to format my usb drive? Or will I lose some sort of driver information and will because useless?12:34
ubuntu_illriginal: Wait do you have U3 running on it?12:35
illriginalU3?12:35
illriginalI'm sorry I don't understand12:35
ubuntu_It's a USB drive encryption12:35
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aldinIwonder|too: ok, know that but would like to know how to extract .exe files without windows...12:35
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illriginalim not sure ubuntu_ I just purchased it, It's a Scandisk Cruzer Micro 4GB12:36
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jaldharDaisuke_Ido: I know but I was hoping there would be a workaround :(12:36
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ubuntu_illriginal: Ha in that case copy the files out and format12:36
ubuntu_Probably has U3 on it by default12:36
jaldharaldin: cabextract12:36
Iwonder|tooaldin: look on ndiswrapper site,there is a method(not extract) to run the exes to extract the driver from the installer12:36
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illriginaloh ok, ill just copy the file I need :D then format it to fat16? Yes?12:37
ubuntu_Yes12:37
Iwonder|tooillriginal: fat3212:37
illriginalfat32?12:37
illriginaland ill get all 4gb back12:37
illriginal?12:37
aldinIwonder|too: ok thanks, i will look for that12:37
Iwonder|toofat 16 will support even smaller file sizes than 3212:37
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illriginalso isn't that good?12:38
Iwonder|tooat least with 32 you van aproach a 4 gig transfer,after that you must use ntfs12:38
illriginali just need it to be compatible with my linux and my playstation 212:38
Iwonder|toocan12:38
HirvinenBonita: i synonyymi van joku, jota en kyll nyt muista.12:38
sebrokay.... trying to boot the kubuntu cd on the laptop to install, and i got this error: "can't access tty; job control turned off"12:38
HirvinenSorry.12:38
Iwonder|toodunno about ps2 but with fat16 you better not try to place a cd or something on it as one file12:39
illriginalnaw I use it for downloaded maps12:39
HirvinenSorry, wrong channel.12:39
illriginalthis may sound stupid, heh. .but how do I format the USB drive?12:39
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Iwonder|toodosfstools12:40
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illriginali need to download that?12:40
illriginalor type?12:40
Iwonder|toothere is a mkefs.vfat or something,been years since i needed a fat drive,lol12:41
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Iwonder|toobest to google format fat drived+linux12:41
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ReVisionswhat's the diffrents between fiersty edgy dapper and all that stuff? plz... ;\12:42
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Iwonder|toonewer versions12:42
ReVisionswhats the newest one?12:43
ubuntu_!latest12:43
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.12:43
ubuntu_:-)12:43
ubuntu_Umm12:43
ubuntu_!fiesty12:43
ubotuKubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php12:43
ubuntu_ReVisions: ^^^^12:43
ReVisionstnx12:43
illriginalIwonder|too In my synaptic, it claims that I already have it installed12:43
illriginaldosfstools that is12:43
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ubuntu_!gutsy12:44
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+112:44
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ubuntu_!horny12:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about horny - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:44
ubuntu_dang :-(12:44
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ReVisionsubuntu_ it's not a problem if i use 6.06 to update to 7304 right?12:44
Iwonder|tooillriginal: ok you'll need to know the exact sytax for making filesystem12:44
rojanuHi I have got wireless card it comes up with iwconfig but network manager don't show it?12:45
illriginalsyntax?..12:45
illriginaldamn gnomepartition doesn't see my usb lol12:45
ubuntu_ReVisions: Yes it is12:45
nosrednaekimrojanu: knetworkmanager is still pretty buggy to put iot nicely12:45
BluesKaj!upgrade12:45
ubuntu_ReVisions: You have to update to 6.10 first12:45
ReVisionsgksu "update-manager -c"12:45
ReVisionslike that?12:45
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illriginalwaot12:46
illriginalwait i can use gnomepartition12:46
rojanunosrednaekim: is there anything I can do about it12:46
illriginalit's fat3212:46
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)12:46
ReVisions(gksu:20912): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:12:46
illriginalso format it as fat32 and I should get all 4gb back yes/12:46
nosrednaekimrojanu: do it manually... its not hard.12:46
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rojanuOK thanks,12:46
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reddog_hi12:47
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reddog_who are you???12:47
nosrednaekimrojanu: do you need help?12:47
ReVisionsubuntu_12:47
ReVisionsXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server12:48
ReVisionsXlib: No protocol specified12:48
ReVisions(gksu:20912): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:12:48
ubuntu_ReVisions: did you read what ubotu said?12:48
ubuntu_!upgrade12:48
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)12:48
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ReVisionsthats what i do12:49
ReVisionsto upgrade from 6.06 to 6.1012:49
ubuntu_Are you in Kubuntu?12:50
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nosrednaekimgenii: I think you are bit too relaxed here.12:51
BluesKajwho dreams up the lame names for the ubuntu distros ... feisty fawn doesn't exactly inspire confidence :)12:51
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geniinosrednaekim: Heh :) At least it's coffee and not beer ;)12:52
trprseems like its got to be cute ;)12:52
nosrednaekimoh... and next up is a release coded by a "group" of "gibbons"12:52
Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: neither do chicago, memphis, cairo, longhorn, etc etc12:52
geniiBluesKaj: Yeah I get a mental image of some deer caught in the headlights12:52
nosrednaekimhaha12:52
BluesKajcutesy silly frilly doesn't cut it with me12:53
ubuntu_BluesKaj: A millionare. So people heart it muchly12:53
Daisuke_Idothey're development names, they just happen to stick with ubuntu12:53
ubuntu_BluesKaj: You would have liked the first Buntus12:53
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido: those are metropolitan names ...they have some class12:53
ubuntu_Warty warthog and Hoary Hedgehog :)12:53
Daisuke_Idoand probably make more sense that way because versions aren't set up in the same way most other OSes are12:53
Daisuke_Idookay, leopard, tiger, jaguar...12:54
Daisuke_Idobig cats12:54
BluesKajright, that's more like it12:54
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Daisuke_Idowoody, sarge, sid, etch...  toy story characters for crying out loud12:55
BluesKajhehe12:55
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BluesKajanyone got an ati tv wonder pro card working ?12:57
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nosrednaekimno... ati is "wonderful"enough12:58
aldinIwonder|too: cabextract hpdriver.exe does the job12:58
Iwonder|toocool12:59
Iwonder|tooati all in wonder tv capture12:59
Iwonder|toobut i haven't took time to actually setup capturing01:00
BluesKajwell nosrednaekim, i bought this pc before I knew the crappy ati linux support01:00
nosrednaekimah.01:01
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Mo0oSaHis there any gui utility that can mount bin cue files01:01
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BluesKajMo0oSaH: try acetoneiso01:03
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mokkanhey, how do i get the media control applet?01:03
mokkanit doesnt seem to ship with kubuntu01:03
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nosrednaekimmokkan: media control applet?01:04
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mokkanyeah, its in kde01:04
mokkanyou right click on one of your bars01:04
mokkanand 'add applet'01:04
mokkanmy gentoo box has it, but my kubuntu one doesnt01:04
Iwonder|toomedia control?01:05
mokkanha01:05
nosrednaekimwhat does it do?01:05
mokkanhang on01:05
mokkanill get a screeny01:05
Iwonder|toostorage media or like volume controls?01:05
Mo0oSaHBluesKaj: thanks01:05
Nininaanyone know how to fix the problem where when you try to connect to a wireless network the program gets stuck at the 28% mark01:05
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nosrednaekimmokkan: oh... kwikdisc?01:05
nosrednaekimthe volume manager?01:05
KNateohh the humanity01:06
mokkanhttp://www.wasome.com/screeny.jpg01:06
mokkanthats what i want01:06
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nosrednaekimNinina: thats networkmanager... very buggy. you have to connect manually01:06
nosrednaekimif it doesn'w work.01:06
Mo0oSaHBluesKaj: acetoneiso is not in kubuntu rep?01:07
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shinygerbilwhat's the easiest way for my connection NOT to rewrite /etc/resolv.conf every time I connect?01:07
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chris__can anyone please help me with a minor beryl/emerald problem?01:08
Iwonder|tooclose BNetworkManager01:08
Daisuke_Idochris__: that all depends01:08
Daisuke_Idoask and we'll see01:08
BluesKajMo0oSaH: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=4480501:08
nosrednaekimchris__: we can TRY!01:08
shinygerbili use dhclient..01:08
chris__well i installed it using http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Beryl_.28Nvidia.2901:08
nosrednaekimmokkan: so is that thing controlling amarok?01:09
mokkanyep01:09
mokkanit can control noatun, too01:09
mokkanand juk i think01:09
mokkanit shipped with kde when i emerged it01:09
chris__when i type in "emerald --replace" it just says baddevice blah blah, which is probably normal i assume considering beryl did the same yet started, but no effects or anything happen..i'm sure it's something small and stupid i'm doing wrong01:09
BluesKajMo0oSaH: make sure you have 'kommander' installed first ..it's in the repos01:09
mokkani cant find it on kdeapps either :\01:09
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Ninina*sigh* Is there anyway to set up wpa without it and do I have to write a script to handle the configuration if I want to automate it or is there another program?01:10
Daisuke_Idoemerald is just the window decorator01:10
Daisuke_Idochris__: try beryl --replace01:10
Daisuke_IdoOR01:10
Daisuke_Idoif beryl manager is running, switch your window manager to beryl01:10
Daisuke_Idobecause sometimes it doesn't like to do that.01:10
Mo0oSaHok01:11
Iwonder|toomokkan mine has add applet media control01:11
nosrednaekimmokkan: are sure its not a Amarok plugin?01:11
chris__i clicked on beryl under window manager and still no go..i typed the command also, the output is..01:11
Mo0oSaHBluesKaj: I don't need anything else?01:11
mokkanwell i have amarok too... and i know i never explicitely installed the media controller myself01:11
chris__Detected xserver                                : NVIDIA01:12
chris__Checking Display :0.0 ...01:12
chris__Checking for XComposite extension               : failed01:12
Daisuke_Idothere is a definite problem01:12
Iwonder|tooits part of kde01:12
Iwonder|tooi forget the exact package01:12
BluesKajno Mo0oSaH, I think that's it01:12
Daisuke_Idochris__: what video card?01:12
Daisuke_Idoand what drivers are you using?01:12
Iwonder|toochris__:  uncomment composite lines in xorg.conf01:12
Nininaone day I too will figure out how to make KDE look good01:12
chris__nvidia 7600GT..a while back on an older version of kubuntu i had it working fine..but forgot how exactly i did it01:13
Daisuke_Idomake sure the "glx" and "dri" modules are loaded01:13
Iwonder|toonano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:13
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chris__how exactly do i do that?01:13
Iwonder|tooadd or uncomment composite enable01:13
Daisuke_IdoIwonder|too: it would be easier and smarter to use the dpkg-reconfigure01:14
Iwonder|tooSection "Extensions"01:14
Iwonder|too    Option "Composite" "Enable"01:14
Iwonder|tooEndSection01:14
mokkanIwonder|too kdemultimedia?01:14
Iwonder|too01:14
Iwonder|tooDaisuke_Ido: it failed thge first time01:14
Daisuke_Idowell then01:14
Iwonder|toolet me see mokkan if i have that installed01:15
geniichris__: If you add the Section "Extensions"   part just like Iwonder|too just described to the xorg.conf it should work after restarting the X server01:15
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Daisuke_Idoyeah, i wasn't aware that the reconfigure didn't work01:16
Daisuke_Idowhat they said :)01:16
Iwonder|toomokkan: yes i have kdemultimedia installed01:16
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mokkanIwonder|too k :) thanks01:17
Iwonder|tooDaisuke_Ido: it does sometimes,but xcomposite isn't actually part of xorg-x1101:17
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chris__alright composite enabled01:18
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NininaKubuntu why (other then the fact I'm using a pos dell laptop) must you make it so hard for me to love you as I truely want to01:18
chris__let me try restart x and see if it worked, thanks guys, do appreciate it, brb to tell you the results :p01:18
Iwonder|toochris__:  log out01:18
nosrednaekiml3mr: don't I know that SN from somewhere?01:18
Iwonder|tooctrl+alt+backspace01:18
KNateyes, im trying hard to love kubuntu, except no sound, im really thinking about formtting, and back to vixta/xp01:19
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Daisuke_IdoIwonder|too: it shouldn't even have to be enabled in feisty since glx and dri are enabled by default...01:19
DaveTheAveI have a simple problem i know a number of you persons can fix without breaking a sweat. My NTFS, that has been upgraded to ntfs-3g, is writtable but ONLY to root. How do I turn over complete ownership of said drive to my account?01:19
KNateare there any other options to get sound, like pcmcia sound cards or usb soundcards01:19
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KNateyes i have a laptop01:19
nosrednaekimKNate: yes, there are,01:19
l3mrnosrednaekim: hmm?01:20
Iwonder|tooDaisuke_Ido: glx and direct redering are not xcomposite and xcomposite is needed by beryl01:20
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nosrednaekiml3mr: did you ever play Bzfag?01:20
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BluesKajDaveTheAve: install ntfs-config , itlets you set all kinds of permissions01:20
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KNatewhich ones?01:20
nosrednaekimKnate, what is your sound card chip01:20
KNateusb, or pcmcia01:20
KNateintel-hda01:21
DaveTheAveBluesKaj: I already did... thats how I was able to turn on write controll01:21
chris__well great it works, but now i have the problem of that it won't show my title bar i.e. minimize, maximize, etc...any suggestions?01:21
l3mrno, but bzflag :)..but I doubt you know me from there....01:21
nosrednaekimKNate: pcmcia for sure....not sure about USB01:21
Daisuke_IdoIwonder|too: i fail to see how that's possible.  i'm using beryl right now without anything involving composite in my xorg.conf at all.01:21
nosrednaekiml3mr: yep I used to play *bzflag* alot...01:21
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KNatedo you know which ones work? or how hard they are to get working, im not even sure if my pcmcia slots are working, as i have nothing to stick in them01:22
nosrednaekimKNate: so sounds not working at all? did you try headphones?01:22
NininaKNate: I'm lucky, my soundcard works, but I can't actually figure out what to do with it, plus everything requires like 10 more steps01:22
nosrednaekimKNate: no I do not.01:22
purpleposeidonI want a kernel module that can mount the KDE protocols, like media:/, fish:/.....01:22
KNateyeh, nothing at all comes out01:22
KNateand ive tried everything01:22
Iwonder|tooDaisuke_Ido: i dunno,just going by what the fellows in #beryl say01:22
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Iwonder|tooKNate: have you tried oss?01:23
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BluesKajDaveTheAve: so you have both ntfs-3g and ntfs-config installed and you still need to sudo ?01:23
KNatewhats oss01:23
Iwonder|tooand as you seen by his error beryl complains with composite extensions01:23
nosrednaekimKNate: hmm... ok. I have a ATI HDA (uses the same driver) I had problems with it as well (but I fixed them.01:23
Iwonder|toowithout01:23
DaveTheAveBlusKaj: Yes I do, i CAN write to the NTFS, but ONLY with sudo.... this is because root owns the NTFS.01:23
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KNateso what do you suggest i do, is there away to restore all the crap ive done involving sound01:24
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Iwonder|tooKNate: an outdated sound system ,but i have used it on cards not supported by alsa01:25
mokkanis there a reason why the adept gui thing doesnt show all the packages?01:25
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BluesKaji suppose sudo is a bitch to deal with :)01:25
raylumokkan, 1. you don't have all the repositories, 2. you didn't update, 3. you have some filter01:25
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Iwonder|tooyou get no fancy features just sound01:25
nosrednaekimmokkan: use "adept-manager" for showing all packages01:25
Iwonder|toomokkan:  all?01:25
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Iwonder|toodid you enable all repos ?01:25
KNatewell alsa reckons they support the intel-hda, but its not working for anyone01:25
rayluand yeah..."all?"01:25
mokkanlike, it wouldnt find kdemultimedia in the gui01:25
mokkanbut apt-get got it01:25
nosrednaekimKNate: anyone?01:25
Iwonder|toouniverse i think is disabled01:25
nosrednaekimmokkan: did you use adept-manager or adept-installer?01:26
Iwonder|toomokkan: did you update?01:26
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mokkanhow do i update? i might have, dunno01:26
Iwonder|tooto get a new package list01:26
KNatewell googling intel-hda and toshiba brings up 1000 threads, and noone has a solution, same say it works, but i cant see how it works for some and not for others if its the same hardware01:26
raylumokkan, click the thing at the top left :D or aptitude update01:26
DaveTheAveHow does one turn over ownership of a drive to another user?01:27
KNateand this is the only thing stoping me from loving kubuntu01:27
Daisuke_IdoDaveTheAve: chown the mount directory is something that generally works01:27
rayluDaveTheAve, try mounting with both parameters01:27
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Iwonder|tooKNate:  try the forums of other distros01:27
DaveTheAveKNate: I have the same issue as you; I own a new Toshiba A13501:28
nosrednaekimKNate: because all laptop deployments are SLIGHTLY different.01:28
Iwonder|tooi use gentoo forums a lot,they offer simple(works on all linuxes) help01:28
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rayluew. gentoo01:28
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KNatelol, googling "gentoo intel-hda no sound" brings up kubuntu forums01:29
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Daisuke_Idommm, 1TB hard drive...01:30
nosrednaekimKNate: what does "lshw" by means of sound?01:30
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: reading /.?01:30
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KNatei have noidea, im a super noob01:30
Daisuke_Idonosrednaekim: yeah.  well, actually i'm reading TFA ^_^01:31
mokkanyouve come to the right distro ;P01:31
Iwonder|toobut KNate i use 3 different distros and see people all the time complaing about that chipset,perhaps a newer kernel will fix it01:32
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mokkana toshiba chipset?01:32
BigMacHey can anyone tell me how to turn off Ktorrent from booting on startup in KDE01:32
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nosrednaekimKNate: run the command "sudo lshw" and pastebin the contents01:32
mokkanexit ktorrent before you log off?01:32
Iwonder|tooi dunno if using a vanilla kernel in kubuntu is pheasable in order to get newest support,but probably best not attempted by a noob01:33
KNateok hang on01:33
Daisuke_IdoBigMac: mokkan's suggestion is the only one i've ever gotten to work for that01:33
Iwonder|tooBigMac:  either remove from ~/.kde/Autostart or close it save session,log out and back in01:33
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KNatehttp://pastebin.ca/49383901:34
chris__hello again, one last thing, now when i go to log out, it only has log out, not restart, shutdown or anything, any suggestions?01:34
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Iwonder|toothats normal chris__ when its working01:35
Daisuke_Idothat's (i think) a known bug01:35
chris__alright cool thanks, wasn't sure if it was normal beryl operation or what01:35
Iwonder|toothere is a fix but i haven't tried it,just seen it on beryl wiki01:35
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chris__thanks, i'll check01:36
Iwonder|toono biggy,log out and shutdown using kdm01:36
nosrednaekimKNate: ok. you have a driver associated with it. now, does Kmix show any channels at all?01:36
Daisuke_Idoof just throw up a terminal and sudo shutdown now01:36
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Daisuke_Idosofor01:36
chris__well yea, but i do like the buttons haha01:36
Iwonder|tooyeah Daisuke_Ido i think so,it does it with 2 different versions on 3 distros01:36
Daisuke_Idos/of/or.  there we go01:36
Iwonder|toochris__: create a shortcut with reboot as the command01:37
Iwonder|tooor shutdown now(i think)01:37
KNateumm01:38
Iwonder|tooor halt -n01:38
KNatekmix shows master pcm, and another slider underneath saying intel hda01:38
nosrednaekimand thats IT?01:39
KNateand thers afew taps at the top01:39
BigMacAh but the problem is I have never opened it yet01:39
KNateoutput input01:39
Iwonder|tooKNate: try this be prepared to hit ctrl+c cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp01:39
KNateswithce01:39
Iwonder|tooit should emit white noise if working01:40
BigMacIwonder|too: Yah there is nothing in that folder01:40
Iwonder|tooif it does then you probably need to edit some alsa stuff01:40
KNateok ill try that01:40
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KNatenate@natious:~$ cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp01:40
KNatebash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy01:40
KNatenate@natious:~$01:40
MISTERTibbsgreetings01:41
nosrednaekimIwonder|too: ahaha now thats an intriguing test01:41
Iwonder|toonever seen it as a hardware test?01:41
BluesKajKNate: the horizontal slider is the balance cntrl01:41
nosrednaekimIwonder|too: nope.01:41
Iwonder|tooKNate:  might want to disable artsd01:42
KNatewhat is artsd01:42
Iwonder|toonosrednaekim:  you can really scare people if ya tell them to alsamixer ,unmute and set all slides to 100 then do it01:42
Iwonder|tooespecially at about 3:00am01:42
KNatehow do i disable artsd01:42
Iwonder|tooKNate:  the kde sound wrapper,its not needed01:43
Iwonder|toowell not totally needed01:43
nosrednaekimKNate: in kcontrol01:43
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Iwonder|tooi wonder if fuser /dev/dsp will give something01:43
KNateok im on kcontrol, now where do i go01:43
KNateill try01:43
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KNateno nothing01:44
nosrednaekimKNate: go into sound settings01:44
nosrednaekim*sound system01:44
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KNateyep01:45
Nedlinpopowhat is the preferred ubuntu display configuration method?01:45
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KNateshould i make the slider 001:46
nosrednaekimKNate: which one?01:46
KNatethe KDE sound systems takes exclusive control over ....01:46
nosrednaekimKNate:  yeah do that.01:47
nosrednaekimand make sure the box is checked01:47
KNateok did that01:47
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nosrednaekimapply and test the sound01:49
KNatetried, didnt work01:49
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nosrednaekimok.01:50
nosrednaekimwhats your computer again?01:50
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KNatetoshiba sattilte01:52
nosrednaekimmodel pls?01:53
KNatep10001:53
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KNateP100 pspa6a-028017 to be exact01:54
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Iwonder|tooKNate: which kerenel are you using?01:54
KNatehow do i check01:55
Iwonder|tooKNate: paste the lspci line relevant to audio01:55
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KNate00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Aud01:56
KNateio Controller (rev 02)01:56
marccollinhi01:57
glassAny way I can get a Kubuntu live CD that uses the KDE 4.0?01:57
Dragnslcrglass- probably only if you make your own01:57
nosrednaekimmarccollin: hi!01:57
marccollini download the kubuntu cd.... i boot on it.... but it don't seem to have a way to install it on my hd....01:57
marccollinhi01:57
glassok01:57
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nosrednaekimglass: no.. not a Kubuntu one... but there is a Suse based one01:58
glassI have the SuSe one. It says it can't find my cd-drive01:58
glasslol01:58
Dragnslcrglass- the first alpha just came out last week. I doubt it'll be part of any official stuff any time soon01:58
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Nininaanyone know how to set up WPA without using KNetworkManager?02:00
nosrednaekimNinina: wpagui can do it.02:01
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Nininaso I just run that when I want to use wpa or for every connection?02:02
marccollini downloaded kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386      and i don't see nothing to install it on my hd....... is it normal?02:02
KNatemabey i should just go out and buy a pcmcia sound card02:02
fisiuon the desktop you should have an shortcut02:02
fisiumy wpa works great with rt6102:03
marccollinthat the problem... i don't have an icon02:03
nosrednaekimKNate: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Toshiba_Satellite_P10002:03
nosrednaekimNinina: I think so.02:03
nosrednaekimnever used it.02:03
Iwonder|tooKNate: http://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel02:04
Iwonder|toohave you tried alsa site or are just trying to use kubuntu stuff?02:04
KNateive tried the alsa site02:05
pucko-knate, that card works fine here. but I don't have a laptop02:06
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Iwonder|tooyou tried that link?02:06
Iwonder|toosays it works02:07
nosrednaekimseems this laptop has problems...a faulty BIOS/DSTP02:07
Iwonder|tooif you set it up correctly02:07
nosrednaekimthe p100 that is.02:07
pucko-I had to pass the model option to the kernel module for it to work correctly though.02:07
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KNatebecause the site says it works, dosnt mean it dose, theres 100s of threads saying otherwise, and nothing is wrong iwht my bios, its updated to 3.30, and worked fine in vista/xp/osx8602:09
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Iwonder|tooKNate: sometmes sound can be fixxed by altering bios settings relating to card i/o and address then adjusting alsaconf02:09
BigMacdoes azureus blend well into kde02:09
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nosrednaekimKNate: if it works in vista doesn't mean its not buggy02:09
crimsunKNate: did you use the _latest_ hg pull from this evening?02:09
usuario_ggg02:10
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nosrednaekimalso, that tutorial said to try booting with the option acpi=off (not recommend for permanantly, just for testin)02:10
Iwonder|tooKNate: because the site says it does,it is possible,,,because hundreds of threads say there are problems usually mean people dunno how or won't attempt a fix02:10
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KNatehey again crimsun, last night with one of the other guys, he got me to download the 14rc4 drivers, and then patch it with the patch you gave, then make and make install, but thats was it02:11
Iwonder|tooi always found it easier to not use kernel modules02:11
Iwonder|tootoo hard to update them02:11
Iwonder|toodisable kernel,use alsa modules02:12
Iwonder|toobut everyone has an opinion02:12
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adam_hello everyone!02:15
someothernickhi02:15
adam_I got a new laptop a few days ago, I installed Kubuntu on it and everything works perfectly!!!  Including the wifi card.  I didn't have to setup anything!02:17
BluesKajnice02:17
KNateok cool, wish i could join that clb02:18
KNate*club02:18
Iwonder|toolucky you02:18
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KNateeverything works on mine but the sound02:18
nosrednaekimadam_: always nice to hear some positive sotries02:18
someothernickwhat laptop?02:19
nosrednaekimKNate: try rebooting with the acpi=off parameter02:19
adam_I've gone ahead and installed the windows media codecs and DVD codecs, with help of the Guid.  Now DVD's and mp3's and windows media video's play perfectly!02:19
Iwonder|tooor try the alsa guide not using older kernel modules02:19
KNateacpi=off = no gpu for me02:19
adam_Its a Gatway, its a couple years old, I bought it used.  Give me a second and I'll find the model #02:20
Iwonder|toogpu?02:20
nosrednaekimKNate: ouch.02:20
KNateso yeh, last time i did acpi off, i couldnt boot again till reinstall :(02:20
Iwonder|toogpu is?02:21
nosrednaekimIwonder|too: graphics processor02:21
Iwonder|tooacpi as in power management shut down the video?02:21
dogatemycomputeradam_: thanks for the positive comments!02:21
KNatehow can i check if my pcmcia is working, ill go buy a pcm soundcard02:21
KNateyeh basicly02:22
nosrednaekimKNate: I don't know if there is a way..02:22
BluesKajKNate, what soundcard?02:22
dogatemycomputerI have a Dell C400 and a Toshiba Satellite that worked flawlessly on both counts..02:22
KNatei have a intel-hda that refuses to work02:22
Iwonder|toolsmod02:22
adam_its a GATEWAY 8510GZ NOTEBOOK02:22
Iwonder|toolook for something cs or pcmia02:22
KNateand ive tried so many things, im sure ive just screwd it up02:23
Mo0oSaHhow do you mount bin,cue files?02:23
KNateis there away i can restore all the audio files like it would be from a fresh install, so i can start over again02:24
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adam_dogatemycomputer I love the name,  would hate if that ever happened. lol.02:24
dogatemycomputeradam_: lol ..  i got the name from my girlfriend's father's dog who was chewing on a sony laptop..02:25
dogatemycomputerit was quite amuzing!02:25
KNatedogartemypc, what sound card was in the sattlite02:25
adam_dogatemycomputer,  Ubuntu must be realy close to being ready.  Good to hear your success aswell!02:25
Iwonder|tooKNate:  only audio files are mixer stored settings ,alsa conf and whatever non working module you loaded02:25
adam_dogatemycomputer I hope it was a realy old sony laptop.  that would realy suck.02:26
dogatemycomputerhey.. i know i'm going to be flamed for this.. and I will NEVER buy another Microsoft product again... (bought it before I was enlightened).. but is there a way to mount a Windows Mobile 5 device so I can read the contents of the memory stick? or should I just buy a memory card reader?02:26
Iwonder|tooalsaconf and alsamixer will redo the first 2 and rmmod will unload the module02:26
dogatemycomputeradam_: well..  he's an architect so he buys a new laptop every year.. so no worries..02:27
KNateand then that will give me a clean start?02:27
dogatemycomputeradam_: thankfully he avoids HP products though.02:27
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evievihi there, have 7.04 (AMD64) and the mic doesn't respond although sound is OK. Any ideas? Thanks02:28
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KNatejust be happy that the sound is working02:28
evieviis this a known problem???02:29
evieviwhy is that02:29
evievi?02:29
nosrednaekimevievi: did you turn on all the switches in Kmix?02:29
evieviyes I did02:29
Iwonder|tooKNate: should,there isn't nothing to sound but proper module and a proper set conf,biggest thiung is if alsa offeres the module02:29
KNatebecause i have no sound, and hate my laptop02:29
BluesKajcheck alsamixer evievi02:29
Iwonder|tooevievi: is mic unmuted?02:29
dogatemycomputerKNate: what kind of laptop is it?02:30
evievijust a min to install alsamixer02:30
adam_dogatemycomputer I have a soney memory stick reader that I have to mount as a drive when I connect it.  If your windows Mobile 5 device is anything similar, see what comes up with "dmesg"02:30
KNateso whats the exact steps i should do to remove that crap so i can start fresh02:30
nosrednaekimdogatemycomputer: sattelite p10002:30
KNatei have a full custom tosbiha satillite02:30
adam_dogatemycomputer may just need to mount it.02:30
evievimic is unmuted02:30
KNateit has the works, was built for a desktop replacement powerhouse monster02:30
evieviin kmixer, in the 'output' tab I have the mic dispalyed. Is that OK?02:31
dogatemycomputerKNate: ohhhh.. i'm sorry :(  i've never had an off-the-shelf Satellite experience a problem before but the custom models might get a bit sticky..02:31
Iwonder|tooevievi:  is mic cut on  in mixer,2nd or 3rd tab?02:31
BluesKajalsamixer is installed by default on the latest (k)ubuntus02:31
evievino, isn't02:31
evieviis only on the 'ouput' (first!) tab02:31
dogatemycomputeradam_: it shows up in dmesg and even assigns it a device but i'm not sure how to mount it as a drive.  i can see how to sync it using one of the sync apps but i'm not sure how to mount it.  No worries though.. next version of the kernel has support built in :)02:31
KNatewell they only thing giving me a problem is the only thing i didnt change, and thats the sound card02:31
Iwonder|tooalsamixer?02:32
Iwonder|tooinstall it if it isn't02:32
evievijust a min to install02:32
sparrMy KDE mouse cursor settings are overridden in firefox.  How can I fix this?02:32
BluesKajalsamixer is part of the alsa sound system02:32
dogatemycomputer[ 3068.415896]  usb 4-2: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB002:32
dogatemycomputer[ 3068.416117]  usbcore: registered new interface driver ipaq02:32
evievithe sound system is set to 'Auto'02:32
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Iwonder|tooKNate: run alsamixer be sure everything is unmuted turned up,alsamixer may show slides not in kmixer02:33
KNatedone that02:33
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BluesKajalsa = advanced linux sound architecture02:34
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Iwonder|toohave you tried alsaconf and manually entering criteria reported by bios02:35
adam_dogatemycomputer,  odd message.  I'm quite new to linux, so I've already exausted my idea's.  Good to hear it will be supported soo though. :)02:35
Iwonder|toomaybe even changing it in bios and rerunning alsaconf?02:35
Iwonder|toobeing custom you may have a setting conflict02:35
tinincould someone recomend me a nice ftp program?02:35
KNatetheres nothing in the bios about sound :(02:35
Iwonder|tooyou should also check dmesg for alsa lines,see if there is a hint02:35
Kr4t05Hey, does anyone know it bitchunker will work with MDF files?02:35
hitmanWillytinin: server or client?02:35
AzmodanI get a "could not find mime type application/octet-string" error every time I open a qt app (then the app opens normally) and a bunch of those at boot, does anyone knows how to fix this?02:36
Iwonder|toono way in bios to change address interupts?02:36
nosrednaekimtinin: kget02:36
tininhitmanWilly client02:36
evieviinstalled alsamixergui and shows everything not muted02:36
hitmanWillytinin: most web browsers do it natively02:36
adam_I'm so impressed with linux, well particularly ubuntu and kubuntu.  all the programs I need are installable right from the memu.  No more cracking and messing about, like I had to in the windows world.02:36
tininnosrednaekim i need to upload things02:36
tininhitmanWilly02:36
hitmanWillyoh, upload02:36
nosrednaekimtinin: ah..... fish02:36
dogatemycomputeradam_: i converted my girlfriend to linux and her technical-phobia-self complimented how well it works..02:37
dogatemycomputeradam_: anyway.. thanks for the suggeston.. i'm heading out. Have a good night!02:37
tininnosrednaekim i'll try, thanx02:38
Iwonder|tooevievi: try in command line,its known the ncurses version shows more than gui02:38
sparrshort of running my own repository mirror and keeping a symlink updated, is there any way to always use the latest ubuntu packages without updating my sources every few months?02:38
Iwonder|toosparr:  the repos should be good till you upgrade versions,just click update every so often in adept manager02:39
evievicommand line shows me the same values like kmixer02:40
Iwonder|tooand do full upgrade if you want02:40
Iwonder|took02:40
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Iwonder|toowhich sound card you got?02:41
mackeAnyone wh has got Radeon x1600 working?02:41
sparrIwonder|too: its the "upgrade versions" every 6 months thats the trouble02:41
evieviHDA Nvidia Realtek ALC88802:41
mackewho*02:41
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Iwonder|tooin kmixer,2nd tab(input) cut mic up,make sure green dot is lit,3rd tab(switches) select mic(mic1 on mine)02:42
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Iwonder|tooalso verify mic itself works on other machine02:43
Iwonder|tooif its built in laptop,plug one in external02:43
evievithe weird thing is that in 'Input' no mic is dispalyed!02:43
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evievithey are displayed in the 'Output' tab!02:43
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Iwonder|tooevievi: i'd say use a dufferent module02:44
snowdonkeyHowdy, since switching to Feisty from Dapper Kubuntu doesn't recognize blank CD-R discs in the drive.  is there something I have to download?02:44
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nosrednaekimsnowdonkey: nope... but why do you want it to recognize blank cds?02:45
evieviin alsamixer from cmd is the same dispaly!02:45
Iwonder|toosnowdonkey: whatcha mean doesn't reckonise?02:45
snowdonkeyI get no option to mount the drive.  I can't burn to blank CD-R discs02:45
evieviregardless the module I get the same values02:45
snowdonkeyThe system doesn't recognize the medium;02:45
sparrevievi: most sound cards ALSO have a 'mic' output, it controls whether you hear your mic input over your speakers.  thats not unusual.  you not having a mic input is weird though.02:45
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Iwonder|tooevievi: try a different module maybe seems like a bad one wrong one02:46
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Iwonder|toosnowdonkey: only your burner will see a blank cd-r02:46
sparrsnowdonkey: you cant ever mount a blank cd-r, in any version02:46
Iwonder|tooyou can't browse an unformatted disk02:46
mackeHas anyone got a Radeon X1600 Graphic card working with OpenGL?02:46
sparrmacke: i had a mobility 9000 working...02:46
evieviif you say "a different module" you mean?02:47
nosrednaekimmacke: isn't that a laptop chip?02:47
Iwonder|toosnowdonkey: you can't ever mount a non formatted disk or audio cd02:47
Aloneawhy does wireless assistant sometime connect to my network, and sometimes not...it is wpa. It was working for a couple days, but now I can't seem to get it to connect at all02:47
snowdonkeyNormally when you put a disc in the drive, blank or not, it will show up media menu, or something will pop up asking you what you want to do02:47
KNateawghh imso freeking angry02:47
snowdonkeyThat doesn't happen, and I can't burn to the disc using K3b02:47
snowdonkey"OPC failed.  Probably the writer does not like the medium"  This didn't happen in Dapper, only Feisty.02:48
mackenosrednaekim: Dunno, i have it in my stationary anyways :)02:48
nosrednaekimKNate: calm down..02:48
Iwonder|tooevievi:  either cook a new kernel,or go to alsa site follow directions,un set alsa in kernel,use alsa modules,they get updated,fixxed regularly,have better support02:48
Iwonder|tooas i advised KNate,the kernel modules suck,02:48
nosrednaekimmacke: ah..02:49
Iwonder|toosnowdonkey: not mine02:49
terrestresomeone know samething about edubuntu? theres nobody in that room02:49
snowdonkeyNormally when I put a blank disc in my drive, on my desktop there's an icon that says "Blank CD-R"02:49
Iwonder|toosnowdonkey: verify rw is set on cdrom in /etc/fstab02:49
KNateif i go offline its cause ive smashed the laptop lolo02:50
nosrednaekimterrestre: most of everything is the same... ask away02:50
evieviI see. Thanks. I'll try that02:50
pdxsamSnowdonkey.. if you open a console  and run k3b with the command sudo k3b  can you write to the CD then?02:50
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Iwonder|toogood luck with sound problems gtg to work02:50
snowdonkeyI'll try both of these -- fstab and K3b in sudo.  brb02:50
KNatethanks cya02:50
terrestrei just installed edubuntu, the installing finish and didnt ask me for a password or user, so i cant log in02:51
KNateso should i keep trying or go buy a pcmcia soundcard02:51
nosrednaekimKNate: might be more worth your while to get a pcmcia soundcard(or wait till yours is suppoted correctly02:51
snowdonkeyThe drive is listed in fstab as /dev/scd0.  The mount point is /media/cdrom002:52
KNatewell i dj alot and use my laptop as a resource for %70 of music :(02:52
snowdonkeyUnder the options column is says "user, noauto"02:52
snowdonkeyDoes that mean I have to manually mount it?02:52
nosrednaekimKNate: hmm...02:52
KNateM$ crashed on my way to often, pretty embarrising02:52
pdxsamsnowdonkey no    cdroms should be noauto02:52
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KNatebut i dont wanna go buy a card and then be stuck int he same boat with it not working02:53
snowdonkeypdxsam: Oh, ok.  I'll try running as K3b as root.02:53
nosrednaekimKNate: well, you can at least garuntee that it'll work b4 you buy02:53
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KNatei dont know that, google didnt really help me, and i dont know if alsa supports pcmcia sound cards, nor do i even know if my pcm slots are working in kubuntu02:54
KNateis there away to check02:54
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snowdonkeypdxsam: Still no dice.  Ran K3b as root, and it saw the blank CD-R.  Right after "Performing Optimum Power Calibration" it says "OPC failed.  Probably the writer does not like the medium"02:57
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pdxsamhmmm02:57
mackeHow can i find out my XFree86 Version?02:57
pdxsamtry running the k3bsetup again  sudo k3bsetup and make sure all permissions are right02:58
nerdpartyI know this is the wrongplace,but can anyone help me with some XP problems on my other compy?02:58
snowdonkeyOk.02:58
pdxsamit sounds like there's an issue with your scsi emulation layer02:58
KNateoh the humanit02:59
KNatey02:59
snowdonkeypdxsam: Hrm, "sudo: k3bsetup: command not found"  :-/03:00
Aloneawhy does wireless assistant sometime connect to my network, and sometimes not...it is wpa. It was working for a couple days, but now I can't seem to get it to connect at all.03:00
geniiKNate: I'm pretty sure lspci will also list your pcmcia adapter03:00
snowdonkeyI used aptitude to search repositories, see if I'm missing anything.  I haven't installed the dev files or mp3 decoder libraries03:01
mackeIs it this one in Kubuntu 7.04: XFree86 version 4.6.0?03:01
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pdxsamsnowdonkey    interesting that you wouldn't have it. That sets up all the permissions for k3b to operate correctly03:01
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snowdonkeypxdsam: If it matters, I have K3b 1.0 using KDE 3.5.603:03
nosrednaekimhey Jack303:03
pdxsamI have same setup here03:03
nosrednaekimKNate: seems there NO PCIMCIA cards supported by linux03:03
snowdonkeyAlso my machine is a Sony Vaio VGN-A150.  I've tried burning using Sony CD-R and TDK CD-R with same results03:04
Jack3hey nosrednaekim03:04
loxley_how do i access and manage certificates in kubuntu ?03:05
KNateyeh, i know, that sucks heu03:05
pdxsamsnowmonkey   do you have difficulty mounting CD's that have already been burned?03:05
KNatebut i had a little lookly on the alsa site and found this03:05
snowdonkeyI'll check right now.03:05
KNatehttp://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix the one above where the red is03:05
KNatethey say they support it03:05
nosrednaekimcreative is expensive03:06
nosrednaekimKNate: and it seems to say the the driver is unstab;e03:06
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snowdonkeypdxsam: I had no problems mounting an burnt audio cd, or a cd with an ubuntu install on it, or a real DVD.03:09
daathanyone know what network the linuxmce help channel is?03:09
daathon what network, even03:10
pdxsamthen it definitely sounds like the scsi emulation isn't working correctly to burn.03:10
mackeWhat X-window version is Kubuntu 7.04 come with?03:11
Hobbsee7.2, iirc03:11
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snowdonkeyIs there maybe something I can install?  I'm certain everything was working as usual in Dapper for me.  I just recently switched to feisty then started noticing this problem03:12
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hitmanWilly!info | X03:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:12
hitmanWilly!info X03:12
ubotuPackage x does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:12
snowdonkeypdxsam: Or perhaps different software?03:12
hitmanWilly!info X1103:12
ubotuPackage x11 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:12
KNatewell i guess im just screwd then, oh well03:12
hitmanWillyhmmm03:12
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hitmanWilly!find xorg03:13
ubotuFound: libglu1-xorg-dev, xorg, xorg-dev, xserver-xorg, xserver-xorg-core (and 80 others)03:13
hitmanWilly!info xorg03:13
ubotuxorg: X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2-0ubuntu11 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB03:13
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hitmanWilly7.2 :)03:13
macke!info XFree8603:13
ubotuPackage xfree86 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:13
pdxsamsnowdonkey you could try installing xcdroast and see if there's different behavior03:14
hitmanWillyubu uses xorg03:14
mackehitmanWilly: ahhh. thanks! im trying to get my grapchic card working :)03:14
snowdonkeyAlright, will do -- thanks.  If it doesn't is there a way to fix the emulation layer or some workaround?03:15
hitmanWillymacke: what kind?03:15
mackeRadeon x1600 :(03:15
hitmanWillyugh, ati...03:15
mackeAye, i know next time ill get a nvidia03:15
hitmanWillymacke: don't be so quick, supposedly ati's gonna open source their drivers03:16
defconhey anyone know why my ubuntu all of a sudden stopped mounting my windows disk03:16
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nosrednaekimmacke: fglrx doesn't work?03:16
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mackefrom ATi sire what is needed then: XFree86 version 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, or X.Org 6.803:16
mackesite*03:16
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mackenosrednaekim: i just get command not found03:17
hitmanWillymacke: thats probably with a > sign03:17
BluesKajmacke, are you trying for DRI and google earth to work ?03:17
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mackehitmanWilly: nope, not on their site atleast03:17
hitmanWilly:(03:17
mackeBluesKaj: i want OpenGL03:17
hitmanWillyfscking ati...03:17
mackeagree03:18
tv__wow that was strange - the net just died here03:18
BluesKajmacke, http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty03:18
nosrednaekimmacke: you get a what?03:18
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nosrednaekimdid you install the fglrx drivers?03:18
daathso, anyone know on what network the linuxmce help channel is? :)03:19
ubuntu__someone please help.....whenever i try to install kubuntu feisty the resolution is very small. i already tried adding new resolutions to xorg.conf, but the resolutions were already present. what can i do to solve this problem?03:19
mackenosrednaekim: dunno, last time i used Linux i was on RedHat version 3 something i think03:19
nosrednaekimmacke: get the fglrx drivers...the proprietary ATI drivers03:20
daathmacke: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide :)03:21
BluesKajnosrednaekim, depends what he wants to do ...has to make a choice03:21
daathmethod 1 is easy and it works - I just used it ;)03:21
mackenosrednaekim: These? http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html03:21
daathmacke: Just use the ones in the ubuntu repository - see the link I just posted - it only a couple of steps :)03:22
snowdonkeypdxsam: I installed x-cd-roast.  I got similar results.  After setting up a user and default image path I tried to burn.  I got the message "wodim: OPC failed"03:23
mackedaath: thanks reading it now, seems promising03:23
pdxsamsnowdonkey     I'm not sure how to fix the emulation layer.03:23
nosrednaekimmacke: yes thouse.. but there are ones remade for ubuntu03:23
snowdonkeyAlright.  Thanks for your help!03:24
daathnosrednaekim: The one from ati.amd.com can build ubuntu packages :)03:24
pdxsamyou're welcome03:25
nosrednaekimdaath: yeah it can... but ubuntu ones are easier (an a heck of a lot smaller)03:25
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daathhehehe ok03:26
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BluesKajnosrednaekim, no the latest proprietary driver is bogus . the previous drivers need to be patched but they work on feisty03:27
daathhmm where do you set a screensaver on a default kubuntu install?03:28
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nosrednaekimdaath: kcontrol03:28
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daathah03:28
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cenzin__help03:30
nosrednaekimcenzin__: whats your problem?03:31
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daathwooot - limuxmce 1.1 beta is installing :)03:33
daathlinuxmce too03:33
nosrednaekimis that like myth tv?03:34
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daathit uses mythtv for the tv-part - it's a wee bit more than just mythtv :)03:34
nosrednaekimah.03:34
daathwww.linuxmce.com if you don't know it - theres a little show-off video too03:35
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mackedaath: Could you send that website link again? i lost it after restart X :)03:35
daathmacke: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide :)03:35
mackedaath: Thanks! :)03:36
daathhmmm I have to figure out how to force some graphics modes on this machine03:36
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daathlast time I tried it completely ignored my modelines :(03:36
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nzkWho doth highlighted me.03:37
mackedaath: Seems like it worked! a bunch of hugs for you :)03:37
mackedaath: and cookies ofc03:37
nosrednaekimmacke: got 3d now?03:37
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daathmacke: Great :) You're welcome :D03:37
mackenosrednaekim: OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)03:38
nosrednaekimsweet.03:38
nosrednaekimwhats fgl_glxgears say by way of framerates?03:39
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daathi got around 500 fps - but I have no reference - is that ok?03:40
daathwtf my fgl_glxgears is gone - I think linuxmce removed xorg-driver-fglrx ?!03:42
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nosrednaekimyeah03:45
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wordCould someone please take a look at my log file ( http://pastebin.ca/494021 ) it seems to indicate a nonfatal xkbcomp error...which is then followed by the server crashing....what happens is...I can run X for awhile...then x will restart. Running a graphics intensive program seems to accelerate, but not cause the issue. Anyone have any ideas?03:46
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ice9_has anyone tried out linuxmce 1.1 yet ?03:49
Corpisi got sound loaded on here now. I watch videos and get websounds03:49
Corpisbut why do I get no sound when i load a game?03:49
Corpislike enemy territory?03:49
ice9_that one sucks with sound on linux03:49
Corpisis there a sound file I should config for the game?03:50
Corpisreally?03:50
ice9_I think you need different sound drivers for it03:50
ice9_yeah there's a huge post about that game and sound03:50
Corpisso it could just be that game? and work on other games?03:50
Corpisk03:50
Corpisthx ;)03:50
ice9_yeah other games sound works good03:50
ice9_np03:50
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ice9_anyone try out linuxmce 1.1 beta yet ? I'm really curious to see if this version works03:51
|Assassin`|!xgl03:51
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ice9_!linuxmce03:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linuxmce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:52
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crackhead_25hey anyone know where are the history files stored in kopete???03:52
crackhead_25(in what part of the directory tree...)03:52
ice9_no clue03:53
crackhead_25..or does anyone know where "kdedirs" is??03:53
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Etokura_Yeah?03:54
jhutchinscrackhead_25: Just guessing, it'd be somewhere under .kde.03:55
jhutchins~/.kde/03:56
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daathhmmm my linuxmce installation seems to have stopped :(03:57
crackhead_25yeah i found it03:57
ice9_bummer03:57
ice9_where did it stop at03:57
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ice9_do they have an irc channel yet for it03:58
ice9_or still skype and yahoo03:58
daathIt says that pluto-orbiter failed - it isn't doing anything any more - I wonder if it will resume or if I have to kill it?03:58
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mokkanhey, i seem to be having some wireless issues..03:59
ice9_wait did you download teh new linuxmce 1.103:59
ice9_or did you d/l the old one03:59
daathice9_: The wiki says IRC, Skype and Yahoo, but I haven't been able to find out on what IRC network03:59
mokkanit works for awhile, but then the internet stops working altogether, even though it says im still connected03:59
daathice9_: It's the new 1.1 beta03:59
ice9_great03:59
ice9_they said the pluto repos were fixed04:00
ice9_cause thats what I problems with on 1.004:00
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MukiEXAnyone know where I can find sample mencoder settings for k9copy?04:00
daaththe annoying thing is that I think the net went down for a few seconds, and that is what made the installation bork :(04:01
daathand irc.ubuntu.com is lagging like hell it seems04:01
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daathirc.ubuntu.com was lagging like ****04:03
daathice9_: sorry if I missed anything04:03
wordyou didn't04:04
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purpleposeidonooffice's auto-recovery feature has an interesting habbit of being useless.04:04
marccollinis there a tool to manage hardware under kubuntu?04:04
marccollina tool similar to what mandriva and opensuse have....04:04
daathwtf I pressed CTRL+C in the LinuxMCE installation window, and then it tells me that it is finished successfully?! heheh04:04
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wordpurpleposeidon: the one time i've had it work...I worshipped openoffice for a month04:05
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jaywhats up boys, I need a little help, I'm a little new to this whole linux thing but it was rather forced upon me, as my computer is almost literally uncompatible with windows XP04:06
raylumarccollin: no, but there's a kcm module for pretty much everything04:06
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rayluuncompatible with XP?04:06
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ice9_!nx04:06
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX04:06
jay(hard drives uncompatible with windows XP un service packed, and my motherboard is uncompatible with the service packs unless I hotfix them before I service pack04:07
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jayNow, I've gotten used to this.04:07
jayhowever, I recently purchased a tv tuner card, as I want to watch tv04:07
marccollini don't find this software with adept manager04:07
jaymy version of kubuntu has support for it, or so I've been led to believe, however, I just don't know how to configure it.04:07
raylumarccollin: kcm is the...control panel, if you will04:08
raylusettings > system settings04:08
jayI'm sure its some super easy command that you do in terminal04:08
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jayor that04:08
jaythanks04:08
jayOkay,04:08
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marccollinyou talk about the kde control center?04:08
jayI don't see a button that says, "TVs, so"04:08
jayOh.04:09
jaymaybe you aren't talking to me04:09
jayHmm.04:09
wordjay: setting that up..for me...was hard ><04:09
raylumarccollin, yes04:09
wordjay: please tell me you have a happauge?04:09
jayNo I don't.04:09
wordjay: >< what brand?04:09
jayHowever, it's built on the cx88 driver set04:09
jaychip set.04:09
wordah you're in luck then04:09
jayI know.04:09
jayOr so I've been told04:10
jayI'm still up the creek without a paddle, as I have no idea how to config it.04:10
wordstill is going to be a tedious process...a program to test functionality (if you're using the coax input) would be kdetv04:10
wordyes yes...let me see if i can find a more up to date tutorial than the one i used04:10
wordwhat's your specific brand of tuner card?04:11
mokkananyone wanna help me with my wireless problem?04:11
jaykernel 2.6.x already has everything included. Just enable the config options you need (i2c, video4linux and the actual driver), compile your kernel and you are done.04:11
jaythat is what it says from the v4l wiki04:11
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jayof course, this whol 2.6.x shit is greek to me04:12
jaywhole#04:12
wordmokkan: only if you give free tinfoil hats....ok so that wasn't -that- funny >.> what exactly is wrong with it?04:12
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mokkanlol04:12
mokkanwell04:12
mokkanits a broadcom, so im using fwcutter04:12
mokkanand it actually works just fine for the most part04:12
mokkanbut it drops my connection04:12
wordjay: current version is 2.6.20 it's the version of the kernel which controls all the stuff you don't see, interacts with hardware ect.04:12
wordmokkan: hmm...with knetworkmanager?04:13
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mokkanyeah, knetworkmanager says im still connected04:13
mokkanbut the internet doesnt work at all04:13
mokkanand dmesg says stuff about failed packages04:13
raylumokkan, you might want to try installing kwifimanager04:13
mokkanpackets04:13
jayyou're on wifi04:14
jayhmm04:14
rayluis the wireless network you're trying to connect to WEP secured? and have you left-clicked on the knm try icon?04:14
jayI had to pull my wifi card and go wired in order to get anything to work04:14
wordwhen feisty was first released my older brother tried it on his laptop and had similar problems with kubuntu...he switched to ubuntu *CURSES!!!*  and the problem was fixed...04:14
jayit was a --tch04:14
rayluyeah. i don't like the new wireless support in feisty either04:14
wordhad similar problems with knetworkman on kubuntu*04:14
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raylui just fixed it :P04:15
mokkanso kwifimanager might sovle my problems?04:15
mokkan*solve04:15
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raylumight. you should also try left-clicking on knm's tray icon04:15
wordmokkan: it's debatable but it's worth a shot04:15
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rayluand seeing what it says under Wirless Networks04:15
raylu*Wireless04:15
rayluand is it secured or not?04:15
wordjay: v4l's tuts think you're uber pro and can compile your own kernel..i'm trying to find a better one04:15
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jayJesus, I thought getting WoW to run would be hard.04:16
jayThis crap is a nightmare.04:16
trix`Gquick question, I've been running kubuntu just fine for a long time now, but about 5 minutes ago I plugged in a big TV through S-Vid and booted up my system.  The TV worked great during bootup (clone mode) but as soon as X started, POOF no TV.  How do I get it back?04:17
david2_What application uses port 907?04:17
jordo23Does KDE have an equivelent to Daemon Tools?04:17
wordjay: WoW is easy it works nearly perfect with wine ;p04:18
raylujordo23, linux can mount isos natively04:18
jayya04:18
jayit actually didn't take long04:18
jaythe problem was, no one bothered to mention that F. Fawn doesn't come with 3d drivers04:18
jayand I thought I was doing something wrong.04:19
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jordo23raylu: I know. But I am looking for a GUI option...04:19
trix`Ganyone?04:19
wordjay: feisty is 'supposed' to have an easier more straight-through method of installing the 3d drivers. it doesn't because the only drivers at the moment are proprietary. Projects are on the way though that will change that.04:19
raylujordo23, acetoneISO is supposed to work, but it didn't for me.04:19
Etokura_Yeah?04:19
rayluyou could also write a really simple script to do it. it's a one line command, so I don't see why you must have a GUI04:20
ice9_so hard trying to get 720p to show in kubuntu04:20
raylutrix`G, try http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D361124&ei=Og1NRrnHFZCOgATIhqmCDQ&usg=AFrqEzf_GAGOgwYxwiB2svn6NIb-lLjE9g&sig2=FAuvL9anq4VjC05M7logaw04:20
rayluoh wtf.04:20
raylutry http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36112404:20
ice9_lol04:20
wordjay: ...so uh again what's your specific brand of card?04:20
rayluactually, nvm. that probably won't work04:20
jayati tv wonder pro04:20
jayits crap, but its on cx88 chip set04:21
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wordhmm...ati tv all in wonder pro.. anything after that? like a number?04:22
ice9_lol04:22
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mokkanwhat would you guys recommend for syncing music between my lappy and my desktop?04:22
BluesKajjay, i have the same card, no luck with tvtime yet , I'm afraid04:22
rayluboth are linux?04:22
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mokkanmhm04:23
hitmanWillymokkan: i have NFS set up for just that04:23
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ice9_has anyone got linuxmce 1.1 to work on kubuntu yet04:23
wordjay: ati tv all in wonder pro..anything after that? like a number?04:23
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jayi know the entire chipset04:25
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jayits a tvwonderpro04:25
jayall in wonder is an entire different chipset04:25
jaytv wonder pro04:25
jaynot all in wonder04:25
|Assassin`|!xgl04:25
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:25
wordBluesKaj: o.O really? sheesh..04:25
wordbah not blues...jay*04:25
jayall in wonder is an all inclusive graphics card that isn't even on this chipset04:25
wordok04:26
BluesKajnot all in wonder pro...the gatos drivers work with them , but not the ati tvw onder pro , they're different04:26
BluesKajas jays says04:26
jaytv wonder pro is supported under v4l04:26
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ice9_I love using miranda04:27
ice9_so nice04:27
jayI just need to configure the cx88 drivers to notice that it's a tv wonder pro04:27
jayit's coming up as 0 unknown device04:27
rayluice9_, miranda for linux? the IM program?04:27
morlahi04:27
jayand i need it to come up as 4 tv wonder pro04:27
morlasome java programmer in  here?04:27
BluesKajbeen searching for 2 days but no luck ...itseems if you want to run google earth and direct rendering , then tv time won't work04:28
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jay[   20.078892]  cx88[0] : Your board isn't known (yet) to the driver.  You can04:28
jay[   20.078894]  cx88[0] : try to pick one of the existing card configs via04:28
jay[   20.078895]  cx88[0] : card=<n> insmod option.04:28
jayhow do I do this?04:28
Iwonder|tooanyone can help with pointing ,me to a how to get youtube vids to play in firefox or konqueror on feisty?04:28
jayall I want to do is change the card=0 to card=404:28
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jaywonder|too04:29
rayluIwonder|too, what happens when you try and play one?04:29
jayI can04:29
raylumorla, what are you looking for?04:29
hitmanWillyIwonder|too: you need flash04:29
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jayhttp://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=Shockwaveflash04:30
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ubuntu_how can I get the nvidia 8800 to work ?04:30
hitmanWilly!flash | Iwonder|too04:30
ubotuIwonder|too: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash04:30
morlaraylu, I'm sitting over a homework.. I cannot get Math.cos to produce correct results.04:30
jayfollow the .tar.gz instrutcions04:30
wordjay: any idea if you're supposed to use bttv?04:30
Iwonder|tooit says either javascript or flash player not installed in firefox,in konqueror i get a black screen then it pops up with forward/back refresh to play again and a rightclick play menu(klask i think)04:30
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jaywonder04:30
BluesKajjay, what cmnd  you using for that output ?04:30
jayfollow the link I gave you04:31
jaydmesg04:31
jay|wonder|too http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=Shockwaveflash04:31
Iwonder|took thx04:31
jayuse the .tar.gz instrutions04:31
rayluyou really don't need that, jay04:31
phpcodehow can i setup a vhost? i have a domain.04:31
jaywhat04:31
morlaraylu, it gives me values such as 6.1 for Math.toRadians(90 degree)04:31
rayluwhen you try and play a flash movie, it will install it for you04:32
raylu(assuming you're using Firefox)04:32
jayno it wont04:32
jayI was04:32
Iwonder|tootried that,was uncertain as to the location of firefox librarys04:32
jayit sent me there04:32
jayso, um, step off04:32
jayi can tell you04:32
wordI've never had firefox autoinstall it :-/04:32
wordsuccessfully anyway..04:32
Iwonder|tooyep sent me thee,i got a source followed instructions and evidently i couldn't locate the firefox libs directory04:33
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BluesKajyup jay , i see what you mean by card 404:34
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Iwonder|tooso i was hoping maybe ya'll had it working and knew how,i've installed nonfree adobe flash from adept and swflash neither work04:34
hitmanWillyIwonder|too: try installing flashplugin-nonfree from the repos04:34
jaywonder|too04:34
acp_hi, anyone can tell my how I choose my default sound card in kubuntu?... i can't find it04:34
jaydid you get firefox through adept?04:34
BluesKajI wonder what config file is that listed in so we can edit it04:35
Iwonder|tooyes jaaroo04:35
Iwonder|tooyes jay04:35
jayYou can04:35
jay[   20.078894]  cx88[0] : try to pick one of the existing card configs via04:35
jay[   20.078895]  cx88[0] : card=<n> insmod option.04:35
jaythat what it says04:35
jay:(04:35
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jaygo into adept04:35
jaysearch firefox04:35
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jay(I'm telling you this way so you can do it again in the future)04:36
jaythen expand firefox04:36
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jayand click details04:36
jaynow click installed files04:36
jayand it tells you where it installed them04:36
Iwonder|tooi was curious if being its fireox-bin and its missing fiefox headers perhaps i need firefox source04:36
jaythen all you have to do is point the .tar.gz installer at the file04:37
wordjay: success :) found what you need gimme a sec to pastebin04:37
jaysweet04:37
Iwonder|toojay what if the binary firefox doesn't have the directory?04:38
rayluIwonder|too, wait...are you COMPILING the flash player?04:38
wordjay: http://pastebin.ca/49409304:38
jayinstall firefox like a not robot04:38
wordyou can't compile the flash player..unless you're using the open source version which isn't completed yet...04:38
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geniiyou *can't* compile the flash player as no source is available (proprietary to adobe)04:38
Iwonder|tooyeah what word said04:39
Iwonder|toono04:39
mcquaidi installed just core kde apps, and adding as i need.  what pkgs provide networking options for setting ip address, dns, eth0/1 etc04:39
wordjay: do a dmesg | less after that to see if it initialized right..otherwise restart and see if it worked04:39
BluesKajyou can compile flash but you have to know the path to firefox to make it work04:40
Iwonder|toothe flash plugin redirect is for flash sources which need to be compiled,i however am sure this will fail on firefox -bin04:40
jaywhat do I do with this?04:40
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jaylol04:40
jaynevermind04:40
jayam an idiot04:40
wordjay: you use them ;p it's a list of commands to run04:40
jhonhola04:40
wordheh ;p04:40
rayluwhether or not you can compile it...i wouldn't recommend it, Iwonder|too04:41
Iwonder|tooflashplugin-nonfree was allready installed04:41
jayjay@God:/etc/modprobe.d$ echo "options cx88xx card=4 tuner=44" > cx88xx04:41
jaybash: cx88xx: Permission denied04:41
Iwonder|tooraylu: why not?04:41
Iwonder|tooscared of sources?04:41
wordput sudo in front of the command04:41
jayi did04:41
jaysame04:41
wordwtf? sudo is god04:41
jayjay@God:/etc/modprobe.d$ sudo echo "options cx88xx card=4 tuner=44" > cx88xx04:41
jaybash: cx88xx: Permission denied04:41
Iwonder|too<<<<binary distro noob,,not a linux noob04:42
rayluIwonder|too, because there's no need to....04:42
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Iwonder|toothats a good reason04:42
jgibbarcan anyone help me with a network problem04:42
raylu!ask04:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:42
Iwonder|toodoesn't matter to me source or binary just as long as it works04:43
wordjay: ..gimme a second..04:43
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rayluIwonder|too, so I suppose you've tried firefox's autoinstall thingy?04:43
jgibbarI am using Samba and I am not able to see my roommates computer which is running vista, the name of the domain is workgroup04:43
Iwonder|tooraylu: click here to get flash plugin?04:43
Iwonder|toothingy04:44
Iwonder|tooyes to redirects you to adobe site where you download and conmpile the flash source'04:44
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rayluo.0, that's not what it did for me.04:46
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rayluit asked me to accept the agreement and *poof* it worked04:46
wordjay: ok i've got it sorted... run this command - sudo su04:46
rayluit even reloaded the page for me :D04:46
BluesKajjgibbar, in the terminal :' sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt ' , then :' sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount ' ...this should give you access to your roomates pc.04:46
rayluwhy would you sudo su? just su should be fine04:46
wordthen run that echo command, then RIGHT AFTER type the command exit04:46
jaybrb04:46
rayluoh wait, i see04:46
dennisaanyone know if the promise fasttrak sx4000 series raid contollers work with fiesty04:46
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Iwonder|tooraylu: ok,walk me through this evidently i'm doing something different than you04:48
raylui went to a site with a flash video, clicked on the video (i suppose the button in the top-right would be the same), and the dialog popped up. i told it to look for the plugin (next), accepted the agreement, pressed next, and the rest was automatic04:48
wordjay: follow these revised instructions - http://pastebin.ca/49410504:49
Iwonder|toook,what site,maybe this a youtube thing04:51
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mokkansigh04:51
mokkannow my sound doesnt work04:51
mokkanperfect04:51
rayludon't remember; just any site with a flash video. it shouldn't be a youtube thing, though04:51
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jakehello guys im new to linux. and i want to install the wine. how do i add it in the repos?04:53
jgibbarBluesKaj> Ok I did what you said, I can see his workgroup now but when I go to browse it I get this message "The file or folder smb://workgroup/ does not exist"04:53
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BluesKajraylu, most video sites use flash , especially youtube and myspace04:54
raylujake, are you sure it's not already in your list? try sudo aptitude install wine04:55
wordmokkan: :'( what'd you change?04:55
mokkani just installed a few packages.. but nothing that should affect it04:55
mokkanive rebooted too04:55
BluesKajerr I mean Iwonder|too04:56
BluesKajworkgroup is std name on windows for samba shares , make sure you roomate goes into 'properties" of the files and sets up 'sharing'04:57
jakethanks raylu. evrything's fine now04:57
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jakeguys anybody using here the feisty fawn?04:57
raylualmost all of us are, i'd imagine04:58
jakebecause i have a prob with it04:58
killermachI have ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop, it doesn't show fiesty as an update, like my workstation that had 6.10 did. how is best to update04:58
BluesKajjgibbar, did you get that ?04:58
hitmanWillyjake, please continue...im intrigued04:58
hitmanWilly:)04:58
jakein feisty, when i connect my externel hdd, it didnt dect it.04:58
raylukillermach, have you updated your repositories? sudo aptitude update04:59
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jakeor when i try to open the source nothing file appears04:59
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hitmanWillyjake: have you tried to mount it manually?04:59
jgibbarEverything on his end should be set up fine, I switched to Kubuntu from Vista and transfered all my files I needed to back up for school and stuff to his computer just fine, I am starting to think that it is Vista04:59
jakeyes my hdd was external storage by usb04:59
jakevista sucks05:00
hitmanWillyjake: so you can mount it manually, it just automount it?05:00
tomaszcan anyone help me installing nvidia drivers for 8800gtx ?05:00
hitmanWilly*doesn't05:00
hitmanWilly!nvidia | tomasz05:01
ubotutomasz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:01
jgibbaryou don't have to tell me anything jake05:01
jakei think theres no prob with my ext storage. bcoz i install edgy now everythings fine05:01
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jakei did also the upgrade from edgy to feisty05:01
hitmanWillyjake: usually you can get around that by putting it in fstab05:02
jakesorry jgibbar05:02
jgibbarjake> when you are using your external, are you just plugging it in or booting with it plugged into the USB?05:02
jakeboth05:02
jgibbardoes either work with fiesty?05:03
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jakeboth i boot with it and plug it without rebooting05:03
jakeanybody had a same problem with me?05:03
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jgibbarI am looking hold on, I had a similar prob with a USB wireless adapter05:04
mokkanhow do i get alsaconf to work?05:04
mokkani have alsa-utils05:04
mokkanbut it doesnt seem to be included05:04
KNatedose anyone know of sound alternatives, like usb sound cards, pcmcia sound cards that work with kubuntu05:04
BluesKajjgibbar, it could be vista, i only have experience with linux and xp on the same network05:05
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hitmanWillyjake: usually putting the drive into fstab with the 'user' option fixes that prob05:05
BluesKajaltho, vista brags like hell how connectable it is to other OS's on a network05:05
jakesorry but im a newby i dont knw hw to do that05:06
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hitmanWilly!fstab | jake05:08
ubotujake: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions05:08
jgibbarjake> is this the only external usb drive you will be using?05:08
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mokkananyone wanna help with my sound problem? :(05:09
jgibbarif so, my problem was solved just by manually mounting the device, to do this you would type something like "mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /mnt" into konsole05:09
jakeyes05:09
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jgibbarafter manually mounting once, it picked up fine on its own every other time05:10
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jakeguys im very greatful for your response.. but now everythings fine.. i will stay using the edgy vrsion. bcoz everythings fine now05:12
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Zeelothey is it possible to make the login screen just a bunch of thumbs? instead of typing in the username just click on it?05:13
specialbuddywhat do I do it apt asks for the CD and I don't have it?05:14
Zeelotcan't seem to find setting for it05:14
hitmanWillyjake: whatever works fo ya, man05:14
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_6StringKng_!beryl05:15
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:15
specialbuddywhat do I do it apt asks for the CD and I don't have it?05:15
specialbuddyI burned a new CD and it doesn't work05:15
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jakethanks..05:16
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_6StringKng_!ATI05:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:16
specialbuddywhat do I do it apt asks for the CD and I don't have it?05:16
_6StringKng_well I used this one05:17
_6StringKng_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI05:17
_6StringKng_sry, wrong channel05:17
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Zhiwii05:23
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melkorI have a hard drive partition that is mounted, it appears to be empty but df says I am using 128 megs of it05:25
melkordoes anybody know why that might be?05:25
rayluthe header for the partition05:27
rayluincluding the MFT and whatnot05:27
rayluwill take up some space05:27
melkork05:27
melkorwhat about having the partition auto mount05:28
raylufstab05:28
melkorcool05:28
raylu(i think)05:28
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Zeelotanyone? thumbs as logins? please =(05:28
Iwonder|tooivman+pmount add user to plugdev group05:28
rayluZeelot, I don't think I've ever seen it before05:29
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Zeelothmm05:29
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Zeelotwould make it much simpler for my parents to login if they can just click on the username05:30
dptHello everyone05:30
dpti have one problem that i can't find in google05:30
dptyou're sort of my lasty hope05:30
rayluit would also be simple if they didn't have to type in a password05:30
rayluoh, I suppose you could use an auto-login script. only 1 username, though05:31
lobsterdpt how can we help?05:31
dpti can play originla dvds with kaffeine, but if i put a burned one, then i just won't work, it will show trhe video but then some error comes out05:31
lobsteranyone familiar with wireless routers?05:31
BluesKajmy wife types in a pw everymorning, it's not difficult05:31
dpti've tried with a million dvds, original works, burned no way05:31
rayluslightly, lobster05:31
dptso, any idea what it might be?05:31
lobsterdpt: do the burned dvds work in a regular dvd player?05:31
specialbuddycan anyone help me out with this http://www.askstudent.com/2006/10/20/how-to-crack-a-wep-key-using-ubuntu/05:31
dptyeah05:31
rayluBluesKaj, his issue is the usernames. which I suppose are actually easiere to type...05:32
ZeelotI would like it to have no password...is that possible?05:32
Iwonder|tooZeelot: you can set passwordless accounts in login manager in k control05:32
dpti wanted to see a movie today in my pc and i had to go to the lving room beause it was burned and kubutun won't play it05:32
dptit worked perfectyly on the dvd05:32
Zeeloti made an account without a password but it tells me I have to set a new password when i try to login05:32
BluesKajraylu, semantics05:32
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specialbuddycan anyone help me out with this http://www.askstudent.com/2006/10/20/how-to-crack-a-wep-key-using-ubuntu/05:32
BluesKaj!codecs | dpt05:33
ubotudpt: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:33
lobsterraylu: can I set up knetwork manager to monitor my router for available networks?  or is there another program that will do that?05:33
raylu...what?? your router should only host 1 network05:33
lobstertrue, but I should be able to use it as a gateway, no?05:34
ZeelotIwonder|too : know why it tells me to reset password on first login? it also says invalid login if I try to keep the 'old password' field blank05:34
dpthey but if i can see original dvds i have the codecs, don't i??05:34
lobsterdpt: how are you burning your dvds?05:35
BluesKajnot all05:35
rayluoh. that's over my head then, lobster05:35
lobsterthank you anyway, raylu...05:35
dpti burned some with dvddecrypter in widnows and i bought the others05:35
rayluZeelot, have you tried [22:32:11]  <Iwonder|too> Zeelot: you can set passwordless accounts in login manager in k control05:35
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dptso i don't know how they were burned05:36
killermachraylu: I'll try that now05:36
Zeelotis passwordless account a setting or do i leave the password field blank?05:36
rayluI suppose it's a setting05:37
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BluesKajZeelot, warning , if X breaks , then pwless login will prevent you from using the TTY to fix Xorg..05:37
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melkordpt is it the same computer, maybe yours doesn't read dvd rws?05:37
|Assassin`|can anyone here help with beryl05:37
Zeelotright but my root (first user) has a password05:37
Iwonder|toodpt too many varables try playing videos of known file type to try and determine what support is missing05:37
|Assassin`|no one is in #ubuntu-effects05:37
Zeelotso I'm fine right? only my parents accounts are passwordless05:37
|Assassin`|speaking anyway05:37
dptmade sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 libdvdread-dev libdvdcss205:37
Iwonder|tooZeelot:  never log into X as root05:38
Zeelotright05:38
killermachraylu: I get an error.."W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages05:38
melkorLobster, it sounds like what you want would be taken care of on the router itself05:38
mokkandammit05:38
Zeelotby root i mean the first account05:38
mokkanstill no sound05:38
Iwonder|toohiode root user05:38
dptyeah, it's the same pc, and i does read because i remember seeing those dvds like a year ago in windows o an older version of k/ubuntu05:38
Iwonder|toohide05:38
raylukillermach, ...huh? I don't remember helping you05:38
hitmanWillykillermach: go through /etc/apt/sources.list and see if there are any duplicate lines05:39
BluesKajkillermach, just ignore it ..just a dupe05:39
Iwonder|toodpt:  try to play them as root05:39
|Assassin`|hitmanwilly?05:39
hitmanWillysup?05:39
|Assassin`|can you help me in #ubuntu effects05:39
rayluactually, the last time I soke to killermach was 41 minutes ago...05:40
dptlibdvdread: Could not open /dev/sda3 with libdvdcss.05:40
dptlibdvdread: Can't open /dev/sda3 for reading05:40
dptlibdvdread: Device /dev/sda3 inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.05:40
rayluso I suppose I did help you05:40
killermachraylu sorry..you answered a question about my laptop updating from 6.06 to  fiesty05:40
dpti opened kaffeine and the dvd05:40
hitmanWilly|Assassin`|: what's the prob? oh, wait, beryl and ati right?05:40
dptany idae how to solve these problem, maybe here's the cause05:40
|Assassin`|yea05:40
killermachraylu: and the error ended with run "apt-get update to correct"05:40
killermachraylu: thanks05:40
dptok, let me try the root thing05:40
raylukillermach, did you run it and, if so, did it work?05:40
hitmanWilly|Assassin`|: not much of a beryl guru :) but i'll give it a shot...05:41
Iwonder|toodpt right click kaffeine,place in run dialog05:41
Iwonder|tooadvanced run as different user set as root05:41
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Iwonder|toothen play the dvd05:41
dptweel, i just run these and it seems to be working!!05:41
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dptwith the command i just told u with apt05:41
dptits working05:42
|Assassin`|i need to add the repos so i can downgrade the beryl core05:42
dptthanks for helping me to figure it out05:42
|Assassin`|i can't figure out how to add the repositories05:42
hitmanWillydowngrade?05:42
|Assassin`|to 2.0 or something like that05:42
raylu|Assassin`|, open adept-manager, Adept > Manage Repositories05:42
lobstermelkor: it is but I would prefer to not have to login to my router everytime I want to see such information.  I should be able to point to it and say "monitor for new networks"05:42
Iwonder|toodpt: it works as root?05:42
|Assassin`|this  sudo apt-get install beryl-core=0.2.0~0beryl105:42
raylubut I've never heard of downgrade being part of a beryl solution05:42
killermachraylu: hmm. nope.. update manater says my system is up-to-date..05:42
|Assassin`|and i need the repos for it05:43
dptdidn't have to try as root05:43
raylukillermach, after using the update command, try sudo aptitude upgrade05:43
dptit jsut worked after the package i installed05:43
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hitmanWillyuhhh, why do you need to downgrade?05:43
|Assassin`|i dunno05:43
dptweird it work differente with burned dvds and original ones05:43
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|Assassin`|thats what crdlb told me to do05:43
killermachraylu: running that now05:43
hitmanWilly|Assassin`|: what exactly is the problem?05:43
|Assassin`|and xgl runs like crap05:44
BluesKajraylu, editing the /etc/apt/sources.list in kate is simpler ..a matter of copy and paste and save05:44
raylubut you can't double click stuff :(05:44
killermachraylu: done.. all "0" 's nothing to remove or install05:44
|Assassin`|i'll have beryl on but no effects05:44
Zeelotcan someone help me setup a passwordless account >_< i don't see any settings for it and leaving the password field blank doesn't work05:44
|Assassin`|because you can't maybe zeelot05:44
|Assassin`|lol05:44
raylukillermach, i suppose we should have a look at your sources. pastebin them (/etc/apt/sources.list)05:44
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Iwonder|tooZeelot:  you look in control panel ?05:44
rayluZeelot, login manager > conveniences tab05:44
Zeelot|Assassin`| then why is there an option to allow it05:44
hitmanWilly|Assassin`|: do you have beryl-manager?05:44
Iwonder|tooyes its possible05:45
|Assassin`|yup05:45
|Assassin`|xgl is jumpy also05:45
Zeelotraylu thanks 1 sec05:45
|Assassin`|im not in xgl at the moment05:45
hitmanWilly|Assassin`|: try forcing beryl to use fglrx05:45
|Assassin`|how do i do that :)05:45
Iwonder|tooZeelot: k control panel,login manager,convience tab05:46
raylu|Assassin`|, right-click, advanced05:46
hitmanWillyright click on beryl manager, should be an option buried under that menu somewhere05:46
lobsteranyone know what z60_bitpim.rules is or what it should cat?05:47
Zeelotraylu I have the 2 accounts selected there but when I try to login it tells me I am required by root to change password05:47
dptgod05:47
dptnow i can't open kaffeine as root05:47
Iwonder|tooon righ side put a check box by the users you want to log in passwordles and check enable passwordless logins05:47
|Assassin`|there is no option there for fglrx05:47
ZeelotIwonder|too I've done that earlier05:47
rayluZeelot, you might try looking at the accounts and see if their passwords have expired05:47
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hitmanWilly|Assassin`|: oh...thinking nvidia again05:47
|Assassin`|lol05:47
rayluisn't fglrx ati?05:47
Zeelotraylu they were just created and I did not have them expire05:48
|Assassin`|yea05:48
rayluZeelot, nonetheless, I think you should check again05:48
|Assassin`|it needs some work05:48
Iwonder|tooZeelot: did it ask for root password when you went to it?05:48
hitmanWillynvidia has an option in beryl to use the driver itself05:48
rayludpt, kdesu kaffeine?05:48
Zeelotraylu ok 1 second05:48
hitmanWillyno aiglx/xgl05:48
|Assassin`|yea05:48
|Assassin`|hold on let me log into xgl05:48
raylukillermach, yt?05:49
dpttried sudo kaffeine from console05:49
Iwonder|tooalt+f2 type kdesu kaffeine in window05:49
david__Can I install gnome in Kubuntu with no problems?05:49
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rayluyes. though the menus in both get uglyified05:49
raylu(assuming you install ubuntu-desktop)05:50
mokkanhow do i get alsaconf?05:50
david2_YAY samba is working again...05:50
Iwonder|tooor right click kaffeine,put in run dialog,advanced run as different user select root05:50
david2_wtf I did I dont know05:50
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Iwonder|toomokkan type alsaconf as root in console?if not found install alsa-utils ,or similar look in adeptt05:51
mokkanalsa utils is installed... sudo doesnt seem to work05:52
Zeelotraylu account is not expired05:52
mokkandoes alsasound need to be running?05:53
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Zeelotraylu I just set it to expire in 600+ days, password field is blank, I logout, try to login with no password and it tells me I am required to change password05:53
hitmanWilly!find alsaconf05:53
ubotuPackage/file alsaconf does not exist in feisty05:54
purpleposeidon!find alsa.conf05:54
raylu[22:48:23]  <Iwonder|too> Zeelot: did it ask for root password when you went to it?05:54
ubotuFile alsa.conf found in asterisk-config, gnuradio, libasound205:54
Zeelotto what? edit accounts?05:54
hitmanWillyalsactl maybe?05:54
rayluwhen you went to login, I assume05:54
Zeelotyes I go to administration mode enter password and setup all the accounts05:54
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Zeelotno05:54
Assassin`xgl crashed05:55
intelikeysomeone teach me a little bit about using a linux box to limit internet access to other boxen on a local network please.05:55
Assassin`big time05:55
mokkanalsactl is there05:55
mokkanbut what would i do with that?05:55
purpleposeidonhitmanWilly: you missed a period ^^^05:55
Zeelotit told me i had to 'change' the password, then it tells me to enter old pass, new pass, and confirm new pass. and at that screen it Fails if i leave everything blank05:55
hitmanWillyintelikey: i just go through my router...05:56
lobsterintellikey: you want to set up a black list or whitelist for your firewall05:56
intelikeyi have this friend who is setting up a small computer lab for these "special" studants,  and he wants to use a linux box to monitor and restrict inet access to these kids.05:56
intelikeylobster probably a whitelist first,  maybe a blacklist later on.05:57
lobsterintellikey: essentially he woud set up the linux box as a router with two network cards one to the net, and one to the boxen05:57
raylui suppose the easiest way would be to set up a proxy on the linux box and configure that05:57
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Zeelotraylu any other ideas? or Iwonder|too ?05:57
Iwonder|tooZeelot: if it didn't ask for passwd when you went into login manager section,look on the bottom for adminastrator mode05:57
raylunope, sorry05:57
intelikeylobster ok. now you're talking.05:57
mokkanive tried mpg321 on an mp3 and i didnt get anything there either.. also reinstalled sound packages05:58
mokkanso i dunno whats up05:58
rayluIwonder|too, I don't think it'd allow him to tick checkboxes if he wasn't in admin mode05:58
ZeelotIwonder|too it did...05:58
intelikeytwo nic's one to outside one to the main hub  correct ?05:58
Iwonder|tooclick it it should prompt for root passwd so you can set account passwordless05:58
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hitmanWillyintelikey: maybe wireshark to actually monitor active connections05:58
Zeelotwhere do I set 'passwordless' ? how do I make the account actually passwordless05:58
Iwonder|toogo to convience tab05:59
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ZeelotI did that05:59
purpleposeidonsquidproxy?05:59
Iwonder|toolast tab in login manager section05:59
Zeelotthey are listed in the allowed to be passwordless list05:59
intelikeyhitmanWilly oooh not in the repos...05:59
Iwonder|tooon right side it list all accounts05:59
intelikeyhitmanWilly will that have to be compiled ?05:59
hitmanWilly?...hold on05:59
lobsterintellikey: then you just set up your iptables05:59
ZeelotI already did that.05:59
hitmanWilly!find wireshark05:59
ubotuFound: wireshark, wireshark-common, wireshark-dev05:59
Iwonder|toocheck box the ones you want,at the top check enable passwordless accounts06:00
ZeelotI already did that.06:00
Iwonder|toothen you are done,restart X06:00
Iwonder|toorstart X06:00
Zeelotdidn't work06:00
Zeelotdid06:00
Iwonder|toonot log out06:00
Zeeloti restarted the computer06:00
hitmanWillyintelikey: no, its there...maybe it hasn't been backported?06:00
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Iwonder|tooare you using kdm/06:00
Iwonder|too?06:00
intelikeylobster ok,  it sounds too simple to actually work.  but i gave him the same exact "idea"   told him two nic's and iptables with port forwarding,    is that basicly it ?06:01
hitmanWillyintelikey: its mainly just a packet sniffer06:01
killermachraylu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21383/06:01
intelikeyhitmanWilly hmmm ok.  i'll check on that.   thanks.06:01
hitmanWillynp :)06:01
Zeelotyes06:01
wordCould someone please take a look at my log file ( http://pastebin.ca/494021 ) it seems to indicate a nonfatal xkbcomp error...which is then followed by the server crashing....what happens is...I can run X for awhile...then x will restart. Running a graphics intensive program seems to accelerate, but not cause the issue. Anyone have any ideas?06:01
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Iwonder|tooZeelot: if all else fails set there passwd as 1 or something06:02
intelikeyhitmanWilly anyother good packet sniffing apps you can think of ?06:02
lobsterintellikey: yeah, thats it.  check out freesco it works nice.06:02
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lobsterintellikey: you can set up most routers to all this for you these days...06:03
_6StringKng_so like in thunderbird, it doesn't play all of th esound clip when I receive mail, anything I can do about that?06:03
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intelikeylobster k.  hmmm including the "spyware" aspect ?    excuse me, i mean "big brother" aspect ?06:03
killermachraylu: on my workstation.. starting from a 6.10 install, when it was all updated, it should 7.04 available, I just clicked upgrade and wandered off while it downloaded06:03
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lobsterintellikey: I don't know what you mean?  Your friend wants to keep a log?06:04
intelikeylobster yeah and be able to check at a glance what they are up to on the net06:05
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raylukillermach, what version of this isn't upgrading? dapper?06:06
intelikeythese are problem kids, in and out of trubble all their lives and he's going to have to be able to monitor what they do,  whether he does or not is not really important, the ability must be there.06:06
lobsterintellikey: check out freesco.org.  its perfect for that.06:06
intelikeylobster k thanks.   that will at least point me in the right dirrection...06:07
lobsterhe can have it log and send current msgs to a tty, then he can simply log into the tty session and it will run a constant feed to him of whats going on.06:07
killermachraylu: cat /etc/issue.net shows "Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS06:07
killermachraylu: also in synaptics, if I click "ADD" in repositories, the only "channels" listed are 6.0606:08
raylukillermach, are you on ubuntu or kubuntu? sounds like ubuntu06:08
lobsterintellikey: HTH06:09
intelikeyhth ?06:09
lobsterintellikey: happy to help.06:09
killermachraylu: on my workstation I use kde, on the laptop I started with an original ubuntu 6.01 DVD install and having gotten around to installing kubuntu-desktop yet which is why I want to upgrade now06:10
intelikey:)06:10
killermachraylu: I use synaptic in kde also tho06:10
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rayluhm...I think you're missing a repository that is neccessary to upgrade your dapper...06:10
rayluon that note, you'll have to upgrade to edgy first and then feisty06:11
lobsterintellikey: BTW freesco is super lightweight, if he decides to set it up, he wont need anything more than a P2, maybe not even that, 64 mgs ram, and a 5 gig disc06:11
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lobsterintellikey: make sure he doesn't spen more than 25-50 bucks06:11
Assassin`bash: deb: command not found06:12
Assassin`how come when i put this (deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main-edgy main-edgy-amd64) in the terminal i get :06:12
Assassin`^^^06:12
Assassin`switch them :)06:12
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lobsterintellikey: also make sure it will boot without a keyboard, so he can unplug it once it's running (in case some kid finds it, you know?)06:12
killermachraylu: I have a fiesty kubuntu CD already, do I need to do edgy 1st or can I just use the CD06:12
rayluAssassin`, in your repositories06:12
intelikeylobster heh,  i don't have a 5g disk   :)06:13
Assassin`how06:13
Assassin`:(06:13
Assassin`im new and trying to get beryl to work06:13
raylukillermach, I think you'll need edgy first, but I'm not sure06:13
rayluAssassin`, adept-manager > Adept > Manage Repositories06:13
LynoureHas Gmail started hating anyone's Konqueror with renewed vigor? It's like there is no stylesheet for it at all06:13
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rayluyou could also try a hard refresh in konqueror, Lynoure06:14
Lynoureraylu: I did06:14
Assassin`thank you raylu ive been asking that question for three days now06:14
rayluo.006:14
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Assassin`and your the only one to answer me -_-06:14
Assassin`thank you06:14
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Lynoureraylu: and before (last night) it worked prettily. Even tried approaching from a different url06:14
innernautwould anyone be willing to assit me with an X problem... I think it is probably simple, but I can't seem to get to the bottom of it06:15
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intelikeylobster what about using a box that has ubuntu already installed on it for that work ?   it would have to be able to keep logs and this guy is not a linux power user by any standard.06:15
hitmanWillymaybe its konq then...but i doubt that06:15
raylu!ask | innernaut06:15
ubotuinnernaut: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:15
LynoureI'm just hoping someone who uses it to tell me if it happens to them too06:15
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innernauthere is my question...06:15
killermachraylu: ok.. well this is why I didn't just go straight to fiesty.. so far I've been impressed with the updates online. and I'm in no hurry.. thank you for your time.06:16
innernauthttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44737206:16
innernautjust posted it06:16
lobsterintellikey: thats why freesco is nice, because it runs very clean, off a floppy. (5gig was overkill, but I dont think smaller are around these days).06:16
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lobsterintellikey: if he tries to set up his as a router, he may run into lag on his system, plus if he reboots, or crashes his system, everyone else goes down to.06:17
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rayluo.006:18
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raylukillermach, try kdesu update-manager -c06:18
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lobsterintellikey: !! 32m!06:18
rayluhm? what's that?06:19
intelikeyindeed06:19
hitmanWillywow, you should donate those to a museum or something...06:19
lobsterintellikey: my phone has a larger hard drive!06:19
intelikeymfm interface06:19
intelikeyof course.06:19
lobsterintellikey: what is the processor?06:19
innernautI had everything tweaked just the way I wanted...  and then upon reboot I was rendered unable to enter kde06:19
intelikey8028606:20
Assassin`i get beryl no composite extension06:20
lobsterrunning ubuntu?06:20
Assassin`what do you think it is hitman06:20
intelikey640k ram06:20
rayluoh. 32MB hard drives...06:20
lobsterwith the math coprocessor?06:21
hitmanWillyhmmm, no idea...06:21
raylusheesh, my phone might have more *ram* than that06:21
Assassin`lol06:21
hitmanWillythey didn't start onboard math coprocessors till the 486...06:21
intelikeymmmm no.  no npu in those days unless you paid through the nose.06:21
purpleposeidonintelikey: yes, but does it run linux?06:22
hitmanWilly16 bit all the way...06:22
intelikeyhitmanWilly 386 but who's counting06:22
innernaut!ask06:22
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:22
hitmanWillyoh that's right, the dx's had the coprocessor06:22
intelikeypurpleposeidon it doesn't even run win3.006:22
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lobsterdidint the 286 have an addon chip, and then the 386 you could get it as an addon or on the chip, no?06:23
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purpleposeidonwin3 < tomsrtbt?06:23
purpleposeidonof course, you might just need several floppies. :)06:23
Zeelotanother question ^_^ I cant see where to load kdm themes...I installed kdmtheme but dont know how to run the app06:23
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rayluZeelot, you could always just alt+f2 and type kdmtheme06:23
intelikeylobster yes.   but the addon chips were high for the 286's06:24
Zeelotis there a gui somewhere?06:24
rayluthat has a good 90% chance of working06:24
lobsterintelikey: I have a copy of windows 1.0 if you want a gui for that bad boy...06:24
intelikey80287's were as high as a new amd processor now.,06:24
raylulobster, what could I install that on?06:24
intelikeylobster it needed 1m of ram didn't it ?06:25
lobsterUnknown.06:25
Zeelotraylu unknown command06:25
rayluyou don't have win1.0 installed on anything?06:25
rayluZeelot, darn :(06:25
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lobsterI had 3.0 running on 8 megs06:25
rayluwhat gives?06:25
raylu[23:25:41]  <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdmtheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
raylu[23:25:45]  <raylu> find kdmtheme06:25
raylu[23:25:46]  <ubotu> Found: kdmtheme06:25
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mokkanim getting a /dev/dsp Device or resource busy06:26
mokkannow06:26
lobsterralyu, nope never tried.06:26
raylulobster, you should. it'd be the coolest thing ever06:26
lobsterralyu: I suppose I could sandbox it in vm06:26
lobsterbut there no network support.  Midnight Commander was better than 1.006:27
lobsterit's smaller than notepad, bytewise06:27
rayluZeelot, Kmenu > System Settings > Appearance > KDM Theme Manager06:27
mokkanany ideas?06:27
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intelikeyactually i'm kinda proud of those two tandy 1000xt 286's   they both work as well as brand new, one is in pretty good cosmetic shape  and both have the origenal tandy kbd's joysticks and monitors   even the old 320k 5.25" & 720k 3.5" floppy drives work well.06:28
innernautI have spent about 12 hours searching for a solution to this problem and get nothing but dead ends. I just installed Kubuntu Feisty. I upgraded my video card to an Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS, and KDE was running great. I installed Beryl, and it was working great. After installing and configuring the majority of the packages I use (they worked) I tweaked environment settings (themes, transparency) etc, in both beryl and in KDE and rebooted.06:29
innernautNow I cannot login to kde under my user account, or any other user account but root. I have tried reconfiguring x settings in xorg.conf but nothing helps and I have reverted back to my original working configuration. For a while my .Xauthority permissions were bad, but giving them the appropriate permissions, user, and group do not fix it. The only error I get upon running startx from tty1 is:06:29
innernautwaiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1: fixing.06:29
innernautAny help would be greatly appreciated. Everything was set up perfectly before I rebooted and I really do not want to reinstall.06:29
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intelikeyi even have disks for them.06:29
hitmanWillyintelikey: nothing like the classics, eh06:29
lobsterintelikey: ooh.  HGTTG.  I just found a JAVA version the other day.06:30
intelikeythose computers are older than a lot of linux users...06:30
intelikey:)06:30
hitmanWillynot this one :)06:30
rayluinnernaut, you should show them your .xsession-errors06:31
Zeelotraylu ...thanks but there is no "Administrator Mode" button in there....wtf06:31
rayluZeelot, they also mentioned that. use kcontrol (alt+f2)06:31
Zeelotso I cannot install themes or edit anything06:31
Zeelotalright06:32
mokkanwell i guess i just reinstall kubuntu then06:32
lobstermokkan: sorry what is going on?06:32
mokkansound spontaneously stopped working06:32
lobsterhow?06:32
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mokkanmodules are loaded, ive checked the mixer, tried reinstalling sound stuff06:32
mokkani dunno how, it just stopped06:33
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mokkani think it was after i rebooted awhile ago06:33
rayluinnernaut, show your .xsession-errors?06:33
lobsteryou didn't see^h^h^h hear it?06:33
mokkannope, i dont know exactly when it started :\ i just remember noticing that it wasnt working06:34
lobsterwhat is the sound card?06:34
lobsteranyone familiar with udev?06:34
mokkanits an nforce onboard chip, uses intel hda driver06:34
mokkansame as my desktop, which runs gentoo06:34
lobster5.1 surround sound?06:34
mokkani think so yeah06:35
lobsterdigital output or analog?06:35
mokkanhow would i find out?06:35
mokkanokay, its conexant hd audio06:35
mokkanvenice chip06:35
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lobsterwhat type of speakers are you using?06:35
mokkanits a lappy06:35
lobsterI see06:36
lobsterdual booting?06:36
innernautraylu:06:36
innernautcat /home/innernaut/.xsession-errors06:36
innernautXsession: X session started for innernaut at Fri May 18 00:32:20 EDT 200706:36
innernautopen: Permission denied06:36
mokkanyeah, with vista06:36
mokkanit was after i tested to see if vista works.. maybe theres a connection?06:36
lobsterand in vista sound works?06:36
mokkanyep06:36
mokkanjust tried it about 5 minutes ago06:36
rayluinnernaut, i've seen it; i just wanted you to show the channel. I have no idea, though :P06:36
lobsterdid you try the test sound button in system settings?06:36
lobstermokkan: sorry have to start with the basics, you know how it is.06:37
mokkanyeah, heh06:37
mokkanumm06:37
mokkanyeah06:37
mokkanive tried it with like every configuration you can have06:37
mokkanautodetect, oss, alsa..06:37
mokkanesd06:37
lobstermokkan: ok that lets go back and reset that to it's defaults:06:38
intelikeyinnernaut sudo chown `whoami` -R ~/.??*        might help.06:38
mokkanok just a sec06:38
lobstermokkan: hardware tab should be: autodetect, Full duplex, custom 44100 hz, 16 bits,06:39
Zeelotraylu kcontrol has no kdm theme manager o.O06:40
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mokkanlobster, okay set it06:40
lobstermokkan: overide device, other custom and midi should be unchecked06:40
lobstermakkan hit apply, and it should restart the sound system06:41
lobster^^ s/makkan/mokkan06:41
Zeelotraylu nevermind found it! sorry >_>06:41
intelikeyinnernaut from a console login   ^   then startx     see if anything changes06:41
mokkanlobster, ok did it06:41
intelikeyooops lag does that to me.06:41
mokkanstill no sound :\06:41
lobstermokkan: did the restart go ok?  if so try the test button06:41
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mokkanyeah, not workin :\06:42
lobstermokkan ok right click on the speaker icon on you taskbar06:42
innernautstill no permission06:42
lobstermokkan: select mixer window06:42
mokkanshow mixer?06:42
mokkanok06:42
geniimokkan Did you open kmix and unmute any PCM devices already?06:42
lobsteryup06:42
lobsterwhat is your current mixer?06:43
mokkanyeah, theres only 4 things there06:43
mokkanMaster, PCM, Ext Mic, Int Mic06:43
mokkanand theyre all set06:43
mokkanunmuted06:43
lobsterare they turned up?06:43
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intelikeyinnernaut as root.   useradd guest       then try login as guest and startx06:43
mokkanyep06:43
lobsterwhat is your current mixer?06:44
intelikeyinnernaut i'm still thinking it's in your home06:44
innernautintelikey: I have tried this... it doesn't work.06:44
lobsterfor example mine says CA010606:44
innernautintelikey:  except the user was called "dog" instead of "guest" :)06:44
mokkanHDA Nvidia06:44
intelikeyinnernaut the new user can't startx ?06:44
lobsterok, click on switches06:44
mokkanmmk06:44
lobsterand tell me what you have06:45
mokkani have LinIn, IEC958, and IntMic06:45
mokkanthe last two are activated06:46
lobsteris IEC958 activated? unactivate it06:46
innernautintelikey: no... only root can startx x06:46
mokkanokay, unactivated it06:46
lobsterand then try the test sound button again06:46
geniiinnernaut did you at some time start x as root or in su as root when sitting in the dir /home/innernaut ?06:46
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mokkanstill nothing :\06:46
innernautgenii:  I don't recall having done so, but I wouldn't say it is not a possiblity06:46
lobsterhrm ok momento.06:47
intelikeyinnernaut ok,  that precludes it being local,   so it's system error then.     that means it's probably in /etc/X11  or /dev    /dev because the devicenodes are created at boot time by udev    or  /etc/X11 because  what ever you 'tweek' probably writes in there.    i'm not familear with beryl so i can't speek on that account.06:47
innernautgenii:  in fact... it is probably..06:47
geniiinnernaut If so then all the files relating to it got owned by root. You can change them back by sudo chown -R innernaut:innernaut /home/innernaut              (assuming the user and group are correct)06:47
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nbcbi've got a tvcard how do i scan for television channels?06:48
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innernautintelikey:  I didn't have beryl loading by itself... only when I manually started it... so I don't think it is that...  what should I do to fix the x11 or /dev?06:48
intelikeygenii not relevent if a newly created user can't run X06:48
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intelikeygenii and i had him own his home...06:49
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geniiintelikey Ah, Ok :) Missed that part06:49
innernautgenii:  so perform the chown in the X11 dir?06:49
geniiinnernaut No, please don't do that!06:49
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intelikeyinnernaut first look in  /var/log/messages   and /var/log/Xorg.*06:49
innernautgenii: okay... in my home dir?06:49
geniiinnernaut intelikey says he already had you do this step, so don't worry about ti06:50
innernautintellikey:  nothing is in Xorg... when doing grep EE06:50
intelikeyinnernaut only if you want to reinstall do you own system dirs.....06:50
lobstermokkan: do hadphones work?06:50
geniiintelikey did you have him also do chown .* of all the home dir stuff?06:51
mokkanlobster, just a sec ill try06:51
intelikeyinnernaut dont grep    less it06:51
mokkannothing06:51
geniiintelikey eg: .xsession   etc etc06:51
mokkan:\06:51
innernautintelikey: what should i be looking for in messages06:51
intelikeygenii     " sudo chown `whoami` -R ~/.??*  "  <<<< that06:51
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intelikeyanything related to the graphics card06:52
kyahskreech where u at06:52
innernautintelikey ok06:52
lobstermokkan: what type of laptop, BTW?06:52
mokkanhp pavilion 2000z06:53
intelikeyinnernaut you can also test    X    and see if the problem is with the server or the DE06:53
nbcbFailed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/source/Sources  404 Not Found06:54
nbcbwhy huh06:54
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innernautI did test X... it works fine...06:54
intelikeyif users can run      X    but not startx  then it's not a device problem06:54
intelikeygenii :)06:54
innernautintelikey: so it is something with X11?06:54
intelikeyinnernaut something in  /etc/X11/   is the most likely answer06:55
lobsterintellikey: and you reinstalled the nvidia drivers?06:55
nbcbwhat is the problem06:55
innernautI can't boot into X... but my video drivers are fine...06:56
innernautI think*...  root can still use beryl06:56
nbcbu can manually start x06:56
nbcb?06:56
lobsternbcb: bad url formation06:56
innernautyep06:56
mokkanwell i can afford to reinstall, thanks for the help though lobster06:56
mokkanthis is a nearly clean install as it is, heh06:56
innernautbut can't "startx" with any user but root06:57
nbcbhappened to me before..hm06:57
lobstermokkan: it wont help, I am afraid.06:57
nbcbits the start up script?06:57
nbcbooo06:57
innernautfyi:  I installed this system yesterday clean...06:57
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mokkanlobster, my sound was at one point working, though06:57
intelikeyinnernaut you can  ls -lR  /etc/X11 | less      and look for anything that looks suspicious   -wrx------ blah blah blah....06:57
lobstermokkan: try one more thing please06:57
nbcbi remember....i reinstalled kde and it works06:57
mokkanyeah?06:57
nbcbhehe06:57
geniinbcb Those last 2 directories do not exist on that web site06:57
lobstermokkan: can you suspend your system to ram and then revive it?06:57
intelikeyoooops.   -rwx------   my bad06:57
lobstermokkan: what type of laptop BTW?06:58
mokkanhow do i do that?06:58
nbcb2.4.20-xfs is my kernel..oooo what a old one06:58
mokkanhp pavilion dv 2000z06:58
geniinbcb only contrib main and non-free exist in dir non-us06:58
innernautintelikey:  would tyhis be strange?06:58
innernautrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    13 May 15 23:51 X -> /usr/bin/Xorg06:58
innernautdrwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Apr 17 01:21 Xresources06:58
innernaut-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  3911 Aug  7  2006 Xsession06:58
innernautdrwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Apr 17 01:31 Xsession.d06:58
innernaut-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   234 Aug  7  2006 Xsession.options06:58
innernaut-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    13 Sep 11  2006 XvMCConfig06:58
innernaut-rw------- 1 root root   614 May 17 05:10 Xwrapper.config06:58
intelikey"<lobster> intellikey: and you reinstalled the nvidia drivers?"  ???06:58
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lobsternbcb no source folders06:59
intelikeyinnernaut probably   <innernaut> -rw------- 1 root root   614 May 17 05:10 Xwrapper.config06:59
intelikeyusers can't access that.06:59
innernautchmod 755?06:59
nbcbdeb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free07:00
intelikeyno07:00
nbcbso i should change this?07:00
lobstermokkan: just hibernate it07:00
intelikeyinnernaut that permission matches mine.  -rw-------  1 root root   614 May  3 13:48 Xwrapper.config07:00
intelikeykeep looking07:00
lobsterthen revive07:00
innernautk07:00
mokkanlobster, it did a bunch of things07:01
lobsternbcb: that isn't the URL you posted a problem with07:01
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mokkanthen it turned off07:01
mokkanhm07:01
lobstermokkan?07:01
lobsterhibernate did?07:01
mokkanyeah07:01
mokkani did it twice07:01
nbcbdeb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US07:01
mokkanactually no i didnt07:01
nbcbohhh hoho07:01
mokkani hibernated and revived07:01
mokkanthen i clicked on kmenu and it went to a console07:01
lobsterI see.07:01
mokkana tty07:01
nbcbis that site outdated?07:02
mokkanwith a bunch of things about usbdev being suspended07:02
mokkanthen it shut down07:02
innernautintelikey: how about this07:02
innernaut/etc/X11/xinit:07:02
innernauttotal 807:02
innernaut-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 224 Aug  7  2006 xinitrc07:02
innernaut-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  53 Aug  7  2006 xserverrc07:02
lobstermokkan: it's a bug I'm afraid07:02
mokkanthe sound popped too07:02
lobstermokkan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/10839207:02
lobstermokkan: acpi issues.  I'll research more if you like.07:03
mokkanthat would be great07:03
mokkanif i built my own kernel would that be fixed?07:03
mokkani do have a gentoo background, so07:03
lobsterunknown07:03
intelikeyinnernaut looks right.07:03
innernautintelikey:  hmm...  I don't see anythign that stands out... but I am not very experienced with linux yet...  I have run it for over a year...  but nothing is really "standing out"07:04
intelikeyinnernaut ls -l /usr/bin/X*      could be the suid bit missing07:05
lobsternbcb: read> http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/README.non-US07:05
lobstermokkan: alright momento07:05
innernaut-rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    9640 Apr  2 11:47 /usr/bin/X07:05
innernautlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root       1 May 15 23:52 /usr/bin/X11 -> .07:05
innernaut-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1766656 Apr  4 05:02 /usr/bin/Xorg07:05
nbcbwhat does it say when u startx with user?07:06
intelikeyno it's suid sgid    hmmmm07:06
mokkanis building your own ubuntu kernel even a viable option?07:07
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intelikeynbcb he says permission denied    even on a new user account    and  X  will run for user    startx will run for root only.07:07
raylu viable? yes. easy? not really. worth it? probably not07:07
brian_hey07:07
innernauthi :)07:08
brian_i have gnome installed but i want to stick with my KDE how can i get rid of gnome?07:08
intelikeyinnernaut i don't know what's fizzeling on you ?07:08
raylubrian_, aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop07:08
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lobstermokkan: yes, but it may not do anything.  you might try blacklisting you acpi modules to see if they are the cause,...07:08
lobsterdid you read that link I sent?07:09
intelikeyinnernaut /join #xorg   and explain as concisely as possable what's happening and what you've tried.   i'm out of aces...07:09
mokkanumm, i started to07:09
innernautintellikey:  well thank you very much.  I really appreciate your help with this.07:09
nbcbah.. permission denied even running startx .. is the file +x under groups or all?07:09
nbcbi mean the script startx07:09
mokkansounds like the same problem im having07:09
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brian_what does the sudo command exaclty do07:10
innernautwhere is the script startx at?07:10
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nbcbtype whereis startx07:10
raylu!sudo07:10
lobstermokkan: it describes it in good detail with possible causes and various mysteries...07:10
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:10
nbcb-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3.8K 2006-08-08 03:01 /usr/bin/startx07:10
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nbcb-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3.8K 2006-08-08 03:01 /usr/bin/X11/startx07:10
geniibrian_: First make sure you are not using gdm as your login manager. Then you can uninstall all the gnome ubuntu stuff by     sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop07:10
innernautI have 3: startx: /usr/bin/startx /usr/X11R6/bin/startx /usr/bin/X11/startx /usr/share/man/man1/startx.1x.gz07:10
innernautactually 207:11
mokkanlobster, would getting a newer kernel help?07:11
nbcbinnernaut: yeah me too.. type "ls -lh /usr/bin/X11/startx"07:11
intelikeythree of those are the same file....07:11
brian_alright genii im in kde no07:11
nbcbah got to go soon07:11
innernautrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3.8K Aug  7  2006 /usr/bin/X11/startx07:11
innernautpermissions for user...07:11
innernauteveryone07:12
innernauti mean07:12
nbcbits right...... so i think i did't help u07:12
nbcbhehe07:12
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nbcbbrb07:12
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lobstermokkan: ok. This suggests updating to the rc4 version of the alsa drivers:07:12
BWolf85woo name change07:12
RyielGuys, I just installed Kubuntu, kaffeine cannot scan for satelite channels. If i click on the scan button nothing happens. I have skystar2 dvb card and its recongnized by kubuntu.07:12
Ryielany idea?07:12
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lobstermokkan: I don't think the kernel will help, it's a module issue anyway, so just update the module and go from there...07:13
geniiJucato Well, coffee helps :)07:13
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lobstermokkan: are you 64bit?07:13
mokkanyeah07:13
mokkanso how do i fix that?07:13
mokkanbtw07:13
intelikeyinnernaut i'm not giving up on you.   but do    /join #xorg      and explain as concisely as possable what's happening and what you've tried.   i'm out of aces and trump cards are scarse so i'll have to think a while...  maybe someone in there can/will fix it in the mean time07:13
mokkani tried unplugging?07:13
mokkanand it worked07:13
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lobsterhey who do I have to kill to register my name around here?07:13
mokkanthe sound works off the battery just fine07:13
genii!register | lobster07:13
ubotulobster: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration07:14
lobstermokkan: yup ACPI07:14
mokkanso that sucks07:14
lobstermokkan: updating the alsa drivers may do it.07:14
raylulobster, /ns info lobster07:14
mokkanhow would i do that though?07:15
innernautintelikey:  thank you... attempting xorg07:15
geniimokkan Your sound works when running from batter but not from wall plug?07:15
mokkanyeah07:15
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geniibatter=battery (spe)07:15
mokkanits weird shiz07:15
rayluwtf...now that is messed up07:15
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lobstermokkan: hold on07:15
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geniiSounds like some apm/acpi issue then07:15
lobstermokkan: are you using 64bit edgy? that was this guys system too.07:16
mokkanim usin fiesty07:16
lobsterthats what I meant.  but 64bit, no?07:16
mokkanyep07:16
mokkan64bit07:16
lobstermokkan: ok, hold on for alsa info:07:16
intelikeyinnernaut FFR you should concider using a more secure session to irc in    even if you feel you need to login as root  into kde you can open a konsole and do   su - innernaut    then run your irc client from there so that it's not as easy to exploit you.   and some channels just flatly refuse to let you join as root...07:19
lobstermokkan: ok here it is, simpl ewalkthrough: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto07:20
intelikeystandard security practices are good, even if you don't "need" them.07:20
innernautbrb07:21
lobstermokkan: not exactly emerge, but it'll do.  make sure you use the rc4 driver set07:21
lobsteranyone good with udev?07:22
intelikeyin fact some networks disallow root connections07:22
intelikeylobster no, i hate it.    but what's the issue ?07:22
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lobsterraylu thanks, that /ns worked.  4 weeks since last login by registered lobster07:23
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innernautintelikey:  Well... I attempted that and discovered something that might be insightful regarding the other dilemma...07:23
innernautinnernaut@gratserv:/etc/X11$ konversation07:23
innernautkdeinit: Aborting. No write access to '/root/.ICEauthority'.07:23
innernautERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.07:23
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geniihitmanWilly I'll likely be on some installment plan LOL07:24
intelikeyinnernaut irssi could be used07:24
lobsterintelikey "z60_bitpim.rules" in my udev/rules.d folder.  any idea what it is or what it's for?07:24
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lobstermokkan: still here?07:25
mokkanmhm, tryin that guide out07:25
lobstermokkan: just checkin07:25
mokkan:)07:25
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intelikeylobster it's a startup config script for the udev system   can you /dcc me a copy and ill see if i can tell you what it does07:26
geniilobster "BitPim is a program that allows you to view and manipulate data on many CDMA phones from LG, Samsung, Sanyo and other manufacturers."07:26
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genii^ from their website07:26
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lobsterintellikey no sense catting a 0 byte file07:27
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intelikeyoh broken link07:27
flowingfireHi there.  Azureus just opens and crashes immediately.  Any ideas? (I re-installed it, same issue again)07:27
intelikeydangling symlink lobster ?07:27
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lobstergenii any idea why bitpim needs a udev rule?07:27
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lobsterintellikey: I think you are right.  it's getting tossed.07:28
intelikeylobster to know how to creat the device node07:28
geniilobster Well, if you wanted for instance to access files on your cellphone by the computer it could come in handy07:28
intelikeylobster that's what all udev rules are about,  telling  udev how/when to create the device nodes07:29
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lobsterintellikey: Oh really? I will have to look more into that.07:30
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mokkanlobster do you think there'll be an official fix soon?07:30
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lobstermokkan: not specifically for that issue, maybe incidentally, or if the rc4 driver gets approved for production07:31
lobstermokkan: did you complete the insatll?07:31
lobsterinstall^07:32
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geniiback in 5, need to make a coffeerun07:33
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intelikeysit cup !    stay !     good cup...07:36
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lobsterbrbr07:37
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lobsteri wonder if shuttleworth knows i come in here and anonymously troubleshoot his package for his users benefit07:40
lobsterintellikey: did you fix the root/X problem?07:40
mokkanlobster, if i install that alsa, it wont circumvent the package manager stuff?07:42
mokkan /interfere07:42
intelikeylobster i haven't had one.   are you asking about innernaut's xorg issue ?07:42
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lobsterit will, but with any luck when the new module is rooled out with the next kernel, it will just update to current07:42
lobsterintelikey: yeah07:43
lobsters/rooled/rolled07:43
intelikeylobster last account,  no.07:43
innernautits still busted :(07:43
lobstermokkan: when the package manager has a newer package it should update with no issues, since it's a module07:44
innernauti'll probably just reinstall07:44
lobsterreinstall is easy, but not as fun, no?07:44
intelikeylobster i don't know what would cause a permission denied error for startx on all users (even newly created ones) but they can all run X without trubble.   it has to be something he did to his configs07:44
lobsterinnernaut: it's a new install?07:45
innernautyes07:45
lobsterdid you change your sudo settings to create a root account?07:45
innernautno07:46
lobstergood07:46
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lobsterdoes it attempt to load X on boot?07:46
innernautyes...07:46
intelikeyinnernaut don't do that yet.    try starting X as a user then connecting kde to it    export DISPLAY=':0' ;X & startkde    see what that does for error messages ?07:47
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lobsteryou did a proper format of the hard drive before install?  did ytou have another linux flavor on this HD before this?07:47
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innernautit says Kde is already running on this display07:48
innernautand yes... clean format07:48
intelikeyinnernaut you07:49
lobsterkde already?07:49
innernautfor root07:49
intelikeyinnernaut you'll have to kill x to try that.07:49
innernautk07:49
lobsterah.07:49
Assassin`what kind of images can i use for the skydome in compiz???07:49
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Assassin`i can't change it07:49
Assassin`well can't find the picture i have saved to my desktop07:49
Assassin`through the gnome compiz preferences07:50
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lobsterassassin try #compiz or #ubuntu, this is kde...07:50
Assassin`im in kde07:50
Assassin`:)07:50
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Jucato#ubuntu-effects for Compiz/Beryl07:50
innernautwhat was the command again?07:51
intelikey!compiz07:51
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:51
intelikeyinnernaut export DISPLAY=':0' ;X & startkde07:51
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flowingfire@rainbow I AM UBOTU THE GREAT!07:52
ubotuI AM UBOTU THE GREAT!07:52
geniiintelikey Geez, still working on that X issue? LOL07:52
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intelikeygenii i don't know what is happening there.07:52
intelikeygenii did you get it to run ?07:53
oldwesthi - anyone know how i can view a .wmv file - totem tries but say's needs more codecs.07:53
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flowingfire@pity On you all for the horrible issues u face with Kubuntu crashes. :07:53
geniiintelikey only when I start having too much of it :)07:54
lobsterinnernaut what did you install after installin ubuntu?07:54
Jucatooldwest: are you on Kubuntu or Ubuntu? Kubuntu doesn't use Totem07:54
intelikeyflowingfire my pinguin has only crashed when i broke it,  and i do that sometimes.07:55
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innernautokay..07:55
lobsterinnernaut what did you install after installin ubuntu?07:55
flowingfireintelikey: Hmm.  Kubuntu crashes for me all the time lol.07:55
intelikeygenii you said you were going to make a coffee run and i invisioned legs on a cup...   never mind....07:55
flowingfirebut it's probably somewhat my fault lol07:55
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oldwestkubuntu - i have it instsalled for gnome - and it comes up in kde07:56
intelikeyflowingfire you probably run "latest" everything....07:56
flowingfireYeah pretty much...07:56
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Jucatooldwest: ah. Totem requires different codecs than those needed by Kaffeine07:56
lobsteroldwest: log out select menu, change desktop07:56
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Jucatooldwest: oh sorry, WMV right?07:56
Jucato!w32codecs | oldwest07:57
innernautit said   the following installation problem was detected when trying to start KDE:  writing to /tmp failed with error: Permission Denied ....  Also it loaded into X after a minute and gave the error couldn't initiate ksmserver...07:57
ubotuoldwest: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs07:57
intelikeyinnernaut i can see it didn't work.  but what errors did it blurd out ?07:57
EightyFiveOnlinei cannoy connect to my wireless connection07:57
flowingfireI kinda can't get away with not using the latest of some stuff though... Like the new sucky proprietary nvidia driver ... the other one just doesn't work right on my compy07:57
intelikeyinnernaut ok  ls -ld /tmp07:57
lobsterintelikey did you see the deny access for /tmp?07:58
oldwesti don't have gnome d/top installed yet - would it be best to uninstall totem and let kaffeine become default?07:58
geniiintelikey Sory for lag, got a phone call just then :)07:58
lobsterintelikey: nevermind, I see you did07:58
innernautdrwxr-xr-x 66 root root 4096 May 18 01:54 /tmp07:58
oldwestyes it is a .wmv file07:58
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lobstergenii: maybe you can figure out how to make it run to me?07:59
intelikeylobster i'm lagging pretty badly07:59
intelikeyinnernaut there it is.07:59
intelikeydrwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 May 17 15:39 /tmp  <<<< that's normal tmp07:59
geniilobster The moment I figure out how I'll let ya know07:59
innernautchmod ?  what ###?07:59
intelikeyinnernaut sudo chmod 1777 /tmp07:59
EightyFiveOnlinei restarted kubuntu now my wireless card wont connect to my router07:59
intelikeyinnernaut how did you hose your tmp dir ?08:00
innernaut?08:00
innernautlemme retry real quick... brb08:00
oldwestthx - ubotu - will check it out08:00
intelikeyi'm lagging,  not incohearant.08:01
EightyFiveOnlineany reasons why08:01
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innernautyou are GODS!08:01
innernautit works08:01
innernautI wonder how I did that...08:01
intelikeyno.08:01
flowingfire!ubotu ask08:02
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:02
intelikeybut we are all children of the most high.08:02
flowingfire!ubotu Are you single?  Can we go out on a date?08:02
lobsterinnernaut that last statement (I wonder how I did that) means you will be back in here making us cry tomorrow...08:02
innernautthank you so much08:02
lobsterI look forward to it08:03
intelikeyinnernaut that was a lesson well learned,   it's things like that that will in a few years make you smell like a reall geek.08:03
geniiintelikey Heh :) Nice detective work there08:03
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intelikey:)08:03
EightyFiveOnlinei was connected to my wireless network now after a restart it wont connect. why not?08:03
innernaut:)08:03
intelikeyinnernaut you're welcome.08:03
intelikeygenii no flowers needed but thanks just the same.08:04
lobsterthat was fun08:04
lobstermokkan: you finish yet?08:04
flowingfire!ubotu Ask me out on a date please!08:04
EightyFiveOnlineanyone?08:05
lobster85o yes?08:05
flowingfireeightyfiveonline- did u edit rc.local by chance?08:05
EightyFiveOnlinenot that im aware of08:05
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EightyFiveOnlinei uninstalled gnome then restarted now it wont connect08:05
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intelikeyEightyFiveOnline i wish.   i'm network illiterate so not likely to be of any use there.08:06
lobstereightyfiveonline: how are you connected to your wireless network?08:06
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EightyFiveOnlineright now? im in windows08:06
lobstereljefe!08:06
intelikeyknetwork manager08:06
flowingfireI'm not likely to be of much help either, but u checked the Network Settings, right?08:06
lobstereightyfiveonline: I mean physically, what type and what hardware?08:06
madmike_what up bitches08:06
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EightyFiveOnlinenetgear router and broadcom pci card... both worked fine before restart08:07
jakehi guys how do you install wine?08:07
flowingfiresudo apt-get install wine08:07
lobsterintelikey: haw do you know udev, but not networking?08:07
eljefelobster whats up?08:07
geniisudo apt-get install wine08:07
intelikeymike what you mad about ?08:07
geniiflowingfire: heh :)08:07
flowingfirelol genii08:07
madmike_you know just getting wasted08:07
eljefejake: in adept look for wine; or go to the wine page and read on the Ubuntu/Kubuntu installation instructions08:07
madmike_any hot horny hoes08:08
lobstereljefe: mostly my beer top my lips08:08
lobsters/top/to08:08
madmike_im soooooo fucked up08:08
intelikeylobster how do you know networking but not sysvinit/udev/kernel and all the other assorted things that your network relys on ?08:08
EightyFiveOnlineanyone with advice for my problem?08:08
madmike_i lov ee beer08:08
jakeive installed it but imwondering that it doesnt appear on my start menu08:08
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lobsterintelikey how did I know you would say that?08:08
eljefemadmike_: great, thanks08:08
lobsterintelikey ;)08:09
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madmike_i have a small penis08:09
flowingfireeightyfiveonline: reinstall gnome if getting rid of it screwed it up... it probably deleted some dependency lol08:09
lobstermadmike keep it pg in here, alright?08:09
intelikeymadmike_ that's enough.08:10
cyt!backport08:10
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging08:10
flowingfirejake: type alt-f2, then enter wine-config08:10
EightyFiveOnlineit says it connected then gets to IP configure then stops08:10
jake<eljefe>  ive installed it but imwondering that it doesnt appear on my start menu08:10
cyt!packaging08:10
lobstereightyfiveonline what is the chipset for your broadcom?08:10
ubotuThe packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports08:10
madmike_sorry kiddo mad mike passed out08:10
mokkanlobster, i think i might just hang in there08:11
madmike_Im his friend08:11
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mokkanfor them to come out with new alsa stuff08:11
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mokkanunless you think its gonna take awhile08:11
geniiEightyFiveOnline: It is conceivable that it is trying to connect to the neighbour's access point08:11
flowingfirejake: Oops.. I meant winecfg08:11
flowingfiresorry08:11
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dsmith_is it normal to have to use shift+delete to clear out the .trash folder on a external usb drive?08:11
lobstermokkan? meaning you are in the process or you are gonna put it off?08:11
EightyFiveOnlineonce it displays it says disconnected then i select my network. it wont even connect to the neighbors08:12
mokkanlobster, meaning ill just not do anything, hah08:12
mokkando they generally update alsa stuff that often in the ubuntu repos?08:12
lobstereightyfiveonline: can you access the admin page on your router?08:12
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EightyFiveOnlineright now i can08:13
lobstermokkan: I don't know, I think it depends more on alsa.  That unplug trick works, though right?08:13
mokkanyeah08:13
lobstermokkan: if you boot up unplugged and then plug it in, does that fix it?08:13
mokkanmhm, works just fine like that08:13
lobstereightyfiveonline: and from linux?08:13
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EightyFiveOnlinenot wirelessly08:14
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lobstermokkan: well at least you have sound then.  if you get bored the rc4 drivers fix it, if not they will come your way eventually.08:14
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mokkanlobster mmk.. how long do you think itll be before rc4 are official?08:14
lobstereightyfiveonline: what was the chipset on your pci card?08:15
lobstermokkan hold on08:15
EightyFiveOnline1 second08:15
EightyFiveOnlineuses the BCMWL5.SYS driver08:16
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lobstermokkan: a month? 6 months?08:16
mokkanhm08:16
mokkanthats no good08:16
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Rictoo|SLPsorry, I'm too lazy to find out, EightyFiveOnline, what might be the problem?08:17
Rictoo|SLPGetting BCMWL5 working on kubuntu?08:17
Rictoo|SLPtoo lazy to scroll up*08:17
lobstermokkan: plus whenever ubuntu decides to add it to the update.08:17
mokkan:\08:18
Rictoo|SLPAnyway, I ought to sleep now, but use ndiswrapper :)08:18
mokkanwell maybe i will do that then08:18
EightyFiveOnlinewont connect to the router. says its installed and was working fine. then i uninstalled gnome now it wont08:18
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jakehow to run windows programs in wine?08:18
Rictoo|SLPjake, 'wine'08:19
lobstereightyfiveonline you need to reinstall the ndiswrapper.  I'm not familiar with them, but I'm guessing it had a startup script tied to gnome somehow?08:19
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EightyFiveOnlinewhats the command for that again08:19
lobster!ndiswrapper08:19
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:19
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jake<Rictoo|SLP> sorry but im new to linux. whats next?08:20
mokkanndiswrapper is what ive had best luck with08:20
EightyFiveOnlinei installed that last time to get it to work08:20
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lobstermokkan: you want to tell eightyfiveonline how to install ndis in kde?08:21
dsmith_whats the command in ubuntu to delete a file?08:21
lobsterdsmith rm file08:21
dsmith_thats it08:21
intelikeydsmith_ rm08:21
dsmith_duh!08:21
mokkanha08:22
mokkanhell if i know08:22
dsmith_i have mv and mkdir down08:22
mokkani did it in gentoo :\08:22
dsmith_thx08:22
mokkanthe bcm drivers worked for me in ubuntu08:22
lobstermokkan: I have managed to avoid ndis so far08:22
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mokkanits actually a lot more reliable in my experience08:22
mokkaneither that or knetworkmanager is buggy08:22
lobsterreally?08:22
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mokkanyeah, cuz when i had gentoo on my lappy with ndiswrapper, it worked flawlessly and never dropped08:23
mokkannot the case now ;P08:23
lobsterhey do you know if I can get knetwork manager to monitor my router for wireless connections?08:23
EightyFiveOnlineit worked great with ndiswrapper with ubuntu now in kubuntu it didnt after in uninstalled08:23
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intelikeydsmith_ when you start thinking in linux terms.   it's things like  rm = remove    cp = copy    ls = list    ch = change   ck = check     then all the commands make sense      well most of them.08:24
intelikeyboy am i lagging...   -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 73.487 seconds08:24
dsmith_ok........08:24
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dsmith_I am cleaning off my ext. usb drive08:24
intelikeythat puts me out just past neptune i think.08:25
dsmith_.trash folder was not clearing off08:25
dsmith_lol08:25
dsmith_no a lil ways past the moon08:25
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EightyFiveOnlinebrb08:26
intelikeywe are what about 7 minutes from the sun ?08:26
dsmith_808:26
intelikeyand that's over a minute08:26
dsmith_93 million miles08:26
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dsmith_1 AU08:26
mokkani dunno08:26
mokkanit takes me about 10 to get there08:26
dsmith_AU = astronomical Unit08:27
mokkanmaybe you guys just walk faster or something08:27
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dsmith_your still stuck on impulse08:27
dsmith_:P08:27
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intelikeyreally.08:27
trpri love how we are exactly 1 unit away.. thats some convenient math ;)08:27
dsmith_well its a good rule of thumb to measure large distances08:28
dsmith_like light year and parsec08:28
mokkanparsec reminds me of foundation08:28
dsmith_I forget light year in miles but parsec is 3.26 light years08:28
dsmith_or something close08:28
dsmith_when you start to shrink everything down to very small scale you realize how immense the universe really is08:29
lobstermokkkan: alright I'm off to bed08:29
lobstergood night all!08:29
mokkanalright, thanks for the help dood08:29
mokkangnight08:29
dsmith_cyas08:29
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jakeguys how do i copy windows programs to wine library, to run it. help please08:29
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intelikeyhmmmm interesting.  tty3 [greg$~]  math '(93000000 / 186000) / 60'08:29
intelikey(93000000 / 186000) / 60 = 8.3333333333333333333308:29
intelikeyor 8minutes 20 seconds08:29
dsmith_thats it08:29
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intelikeyif the sun is not lagging....   then it's 11 minutes08:30
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dsmith_intellikey: the next question would be does gravity lag as light does if the sun was removed.08:30
dsmith_:P08:30
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[uplink] HELLO08:31
[uplink] I want to know how can I uninstall Kubuntu and install Ubuntu insted08:31
intelikeydsmith_ you do know that the speed of light is not constang don't you ?08:31
intelikeyconstant08:31
dsmith_i know, scientists have slowed it down and sped it up so I've read08:32
dsmith_they have even stopped it08:32
dsmith_uplink: you can install ubuntu inline with kubuntu08:32
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[uplink] but I dont want kubuntu no more08:33
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dsmith_uplink: you can could reinstall ubuntu08:33
dsmith_er..install I meant08:33
[uplink] re install ?08:33
intelikey[uplink]  sudo aptitude remove -P xlib*     ; sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop08:33
[uplink] okies08:33
[uplink] :D08:33
[uplink] thank you08:33
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dsmith_uplink: there you go08:33
[uplink] |^\^|08:34
[uplink] thanx08:34
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Assassin`how do i get beryl-manager to automatically load when i log into xgl???08:34
dsmith_F=MA08:34
Assassin`no one is in #ubuntu-effects atm08:34
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Jucato!away > lobster08:34
Assassin`speaking at least08:34
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dsmith_G = 6.67*10-11 N-m2/kg2 is another one08:34
BWolf_im back its EightyFiveOnline08:35
dsmith_alright im out08:35
JucatoAssassin`: have you checked the beryl wiki? link is in the topic of the #ubuntu-effects08:35
dsmith_cyas08:35
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Jucatogenii: none for me today :(08:36
Jucatotrying to cut back on my caffeine08:36
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geniiJucato Ah, OK... herbal tea for you then LOL08:36
BWolf_how do i get ndiswrapper installed08:36
[uplink] BRB08:36
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Jucatoheh08:36
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BWolf_?08:38
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Jucato!ndiswrapper08:39
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:39
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kristjan_where was edgy eft with some updates released? no? (maintance release of edgy eft or something)08:40
BWolf_now its saying my driver is invalid08:40
BWolf_bcmwl5 : driver installed08:40
BWolf_        device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)08:40
BWolf_bcmwl5.sys : invalid driver!08:40
lesAnyone know how to make Feisty automount a Lexar Jump Drive?08:41
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mo0osah!automount08:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:41
mo0osah!mount08:41
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter08:41
mo0osah!diskmounter08:42
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse08:42
mo0osah!fstab08:42
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions08:42
geniiDoes anyone know why download links to Edgy were removed off the main site? Just seems Dapper and Feisty there now. Mainly curious08:42
BWolf_anyone with help08:42
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intelikeybtw if anyone want's that script it's posted at  http://intelikey.pastebin.us/3651908:42
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genii!botabuse08:44
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...08:44
intelikey!ntfs | mo0osah & les08:44
ubotumo0osah & les: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:44
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EightyFiveOnlinehello08:45
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leswhat does the "!" mean? ("!fstab" and "!automount" and "!diskmounter", etc.)08:46
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=== esben is back.
Jucatoles: the ! is for calling the bot with a command or factoid08:46
Hirvinen!help > les08:46
geniiles when you want to ask the bot here in the channel about something, you put a ! in front of the word. If it knows something it will spit an answer out08:47
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Jucatoles: better yet, if you're not sure what you're looking for, just PM the bot so as not to flood the channel :)08:48
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lesOK, thanks, genii. I'm an absolute IRC noob.08:48
EightyFiveOnlineokay anyone still here that was helping me earlier08:49
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=== intelikey hates it when other people help someone to do blah blah and reboot/restartx and then leave while they are gone..... it's such an intelikey thing to do to someone....
jakedo i have to copy the folder from my windows program to wine in able to run it?08:50
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Kubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.kubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs!https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please | Kubuntu 7.04 Released!
=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by Jucato at Thu May 10 12:05:47 2007
(DraxNS/#kubuntu) it lacks some libs or whatever... a hell to trace06:24
(DraxNS/#kubuntu) try arson06:24
(clau85/#kubuntu) oh, and btw, I am connected through wireless with my laptop, and I can ping each other (192.168.0.1/2)06:24
DraxNSsmall burning app06:24
andiok DraxNS thx for your help06:24
DraxNSsorry .. coudl not help you better :-(06:24
rayluyou could look under k3b's recommended libs06:24
DraxNSand type better also ;-)06:25
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rayluthere are 6 suggested packages that aren't required dependencies06:25
haydar_apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx06:26
DraxNSthey are not an issue here raylu ... andi does not even get gui06:26
DraxNSfor k3b06:26
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wortelok i ran sshd from with its full path (/usr/sbin/sshd) but it doesnt show up under ps -A ...?06:26
DraxNSso much basic libs are missing06:27
llpclau85 once you followed the tutorial did you restart eth0 ?06:27
dxdtwortel: what about sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart?06:27
rayluthen it wouldn't have installed...06:27
rayluandi, you did install from adept/apt, right?06:27
worteldxdt: nm, it worked thanks anyway :)06:27
andithe packages are installed06:27
clau85llp: hmm... not eth0 but wlan...06:27
andiadept yes06:27
andiand with root it will work06:28
andito start k3b06:28
rayluo.006:28
rayluactually...doesn't k3b come with feisty?06:28
DraxNSyes it does06:28
andii dont know06:28
llpclau85 cant really help never used wireless on linux before - not sure how it all glues together -06:28
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DraxNSI have it on my laptop :-)06:28
andiits really strange a new installation06:28
andiand it will not work06:28
clau85llp: ok, thanks anyway06:29
DraxNSI am puzzled...if not libs... then it is permissions issue06:29
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clau85llp: it's my first time also and I really had a pretty hard time setting an ad-hoc network :)06:29
DraxNSare you a member or group burning andi?06:30
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nbcbcan i just copy the whole dvd directory in harddisk and play ?06:30
andiwow wait06:30
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andihmm in /etc/group is nothing about burning06:30
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DraxNStake a look at kuser06:31
DraxNSthere is gui for user management ;-)06:31
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leiarI can't get mplayerplugin for mozilla to work. Is there a howto on it?06:32
andiwhere is kuser?06:32
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DraxNSstart > system06:32
haydar_Anyone got a update 2 date Installation guide for ATi drivers06:32
DraxNShmmm burning is not there for me either...06:32
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andi;)06:33
DraxNSbut are adm admin audio cdrom ....06:33
nbcb!automatix06:33
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe06:33
nbcb!dvd06:34
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs06:34
DraxNS!k3b06:34
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto06:34
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DraxNS!arson06:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about arson - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:35
raylu!find arson06:35
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ubotuFound: arson06:35
raylugah =\06:35
DraxNShehehheheeeee06:35
nbcbwhy can't i play this particular dvd? i can play it on normal dvd players but not on my dvd rom06:35
raylunbcb, is it burned?06:35
nbcbno its orginial 8mile06:35
haydar_guys06:36
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haydar_http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide#Enable_.22restricted.22_Repository06:36
haydar_i need to enable repositorys06:36
haydar_before installing drivers06:36
haydar_but06:36
haydar_on kubuntu i cant find it06:36
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haydar_or is it enabled by default=06:36
MrDigimonAnyone that have or have tried to install aMSN SVN06:36
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MrDigimoncant get it to work....06:37
DraxNS!sources.list06:37
rayluhaydar_, huh? drivers for what? and do you know which repositories you need?06:37
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ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:37
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DraxNShaydar_: start adept... and from top menu find submenu manage repositorys06:39
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MrDigimonanyone?06:39
DraxNSrestricted are NOT enabled by default06:39
DraxNSso they will be gray06:39
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DraxNSright click on it.. and select enable06:40
rayluMrDigimon, I don't think anyone here has tried, but perhaps you could tell us what isn't working06:40
DraxNSI hope you can pick it up from there ;-)06:40
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MrDigimoni get error signal 127 when trying to make deb06:41
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MrDigimonbut i dont know what it means :$06:41
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rayluisn't there anything else in the error?06:42
MrDigimon(cd .; autoconf)06:42
MrDigimon/bin/sh: autoconf: command not found06:42
MrDigimonmake: *** [configure]  Error 12706:42
MrDigimonthats the whole error06:42
raylusounds like you need to install autoconf06:43
BluesKajerr make sure you have make and build-essential installed06:43
rayluif he didn't have those, i don't think he could ./configurfe06:44
raylu*./configure06:44
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DraxNSanyone here knows how to configure sources.list to use downloaded feisty repo?06:44
MrDigimon./configure works but not make deb06:44
raylu"downloaded feisty?"06:44
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DraxNSI have whole repo :-)06:44
rayluMrDigimon, have you installed build-essential?06:44
DraxNS~16GB06:44
rayluo.006:44
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rayluthe smart thing would have been to use aptitude download [name] 06:45
raylui suppose you could try putting it in the dpkg archive06:45
cerituscan anyone tell a complete noob how to install program that I only have the .deb file?06:45
DraxNSI used apt-mirror06:45
rayluceritus, right-click06:45
BluesKajMrDigimon, just put ./ in front of the deb file06:45
raylu*ceritus?06:45
BluesKajit'll self install06:45
fdovingMrDigimon: you need the automake package.06:46
MrDigimonok, installing....06:46
ceritusso just right click and install it and it will load an install screen?06:46
MrDigimonautomake1.9?06:46
DraxNSwell try it ceritus06:46
ceritussorry i'm borrowing my older brothers computer and I don't have a clue06:46
DraxNSit will not kill you ;-)06:46
rayluif you right-click, there should be a package manager entry in that context menu06:46
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rayluor you can do what BluesKaj said06:47
fdovingMrDigimon: the package 'automake' will select the best version.06:47
ceritusi'll try it thanks06:47
MrDigimonoh, im using synaptic to install it06:47
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rayluthat's fine06:47
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fdovingMrDigimon: what is it you're trying to compile?06:48
MrDigimonaMSN SVN06:48
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will00im trying to put kubuntu 7.04 onto my thinkpad laptop and when i try to boot the live cd, i get error 2, and then something about a compression format06:48
nbcbwhy can't i play my dvd!!! urgh06:49
will00does anyone know how to fix this?06:49
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dxdtwill00: sounds just like the cd might have burned badly?06:51
will00dxdt nope not that, iv burned it 2x06:52
will00with 2 seperate downloads06:52
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rayludo you even get to the menu with the options, will00?06:53
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will00yes06:53
DraxNSwill00: have you used torrent or classic download>?06:53
MrDigimoni've installed all the packs but is this the one thats missing TkCximage (gets some errors about it)06:53
wortelis there anything i can do if i forgot my root password? :(06:53
will00torrent and classic06:53
will00it might just be the age06:53
raylucan you change the root password through the gui user manager as another user logged into admin mode?06:54
DraxNSwortel: boot up in rescue  mod06:54
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wortelraylu: lol worked thanks :))06:55
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soulrider!dvd | nbcb:06:55
ubotunbcb:: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs06:55
DraxNSon the other hand.... why do you use root account on kubuntu???06:55
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soulriderwortel: you should use the root account06:56
raylusoulrider, he was locked out of his root account...06:56
DraxNSwell there is no root account to start with... by default :-)06:57
soulrideryeah06:57
soulriderroot is disabled06:57
soulriderjust use sudo :P06:58
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rayluthere is, but it's disabled...and obviously, he can't use root to unlock root........06:58
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DraxNSnice thingy... once you get used to it06:58
blekosi desperately need ur help, after the last update, the keyboard in KDE doesnt work06:58
blekosnow I'm in gnome session06:58
DraxNSI was used to root account before... and sudo was a bit strange to me06:58
will00is there any particular reason that kubuntu wont load on a computer whos bios is from before 2000?06:58
blekosdo u know the package for it so i can re-install it?06:58
soulriderwill00: weird, maybe you need some kernel parameters06:59
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raylukubuntu-desktop, blekos?06:59
blekoshmm, not sure06:59
soulriderraylu: thatw ill reinstall a lot06:59
rayluwill00, any chance we could see the rest of the error06:59
blekosis there a specific module06:59
mo0osah!MAD06:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:59
will00sure lemme go find it06:59
raylusoulrider, i suppose that's a good thing, seeing as how he can't use his keyboard06:59
soulriderblekos: hold on a sec06:59
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blekosok06:59
raylublekos, on the other hand, reinstalling probably ins't the way to go06:59
soulriderraylu: but maybe he doesnt want some of those packages06:59
raylu*isn't07:00
soulrideri mean, sudo aptitude reinstall kubuntu-desktop will most likely fix it07:00
raylumo0osah, mp3 support?07:00
soulriderbut its not what *I* would do07:00
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blekosi can give it at try07:00
rayluthat's what i just said too :P07:00
soulriderblekos: im not sure07:00
soulriderbut there may be a log07:00
soulriderso you can see what got uninstalled07:00
soulrideralso, i would search the forums first07:00
raylublekos, how about trying kmenu > system settings > keyboard layouts?07:01
mo0osahraylu: k3b gives an error about missing mp3 decoder07:01
blekosthe thing is not on the layouts, but on the actuall keyboard, nothing workds07:01
raylu!mp3 | mo0osah07:01
ubotumo0osah: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:01
ceritusso i right clicked on my .deb file and selected install from the package menu and it flashed and that was it...what am I missing?07:01
blekosnot even caps...07:01
rayluactually, mo0osah, open amarok and play an mp307:01
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will00it says "invalid compressed format (err=2) --sustem halted07:02
rayluwhy would kde not see a hardware device that gnome does?07:02
DraxNSmo0osah: install libk3b2-mp307:02
rayluwill00, try checking the cd07:02
rayluwith the cd07:02
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mo0osahDraxNS: thanks.07:03
will00i did same error07:03
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Le1hi07:03
ceritusso i right clicked on my .deb file and selected install from the package menu and it flashed and that was it...what am I missing?07:03
Le1What exactly is the "lost+found" folder for?07:03
mo0osah ceritus: i think it installed07:04
DraxNSLe1: for rescue .... after forced restart etc07:04
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Le1anybody?07:04
raylui don't think so, ceritus. try doing what BluesKaj07:04
DraxNSLe1: do not touch it and do not remove it....07:04
raylusaid07:04
Le1DraxNS: Are you talking to me?07:04
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DraxNSyes07:04
DraxNSLe1: for rescue .... after forced restart etc07:05
DraxNSLe1: do not touch it and do not remove it....07:05
Moduliz0rDraxNS: Ok thanks07:05
Moduliz0rI cant see my name on this in GAIM >.<07:05
ceritusi didn't write it down sorry is there anyway  someone could take pity and tell me again07:05
DraxNS:-D07:05
rayluuse konversation or kopete, Moduliz0r07:05
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rayluceritus, ./[packagename.deb]  in konsole07:05
DraxNSor even xchat ;-)07:05
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mo0osah!lame07:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:06
SlimG2How do I change the default viewmode from "icon" to "detailed list" in Konqueror ?07:07
ceritusit's tellimg me "permission denied"07:07
raylumo0osah, are you trying to burn or rip?07:07
mo0osahi was just reading some article and wondering what lame was07:07
rayluoh. it's an mp3 encoder07:07
mo0osahraylu: cool07:08
mo0osahraylu: do you know how to mount bin cue files?07:08
rayluthere's a guide for it somewhere07:08
ceritusso I tried to "./*.deb" and it told me "Permission denied" help?????07:09
will00i checked the cd, and it came up with the same error07:09
DraxNSceritus:  you need to be a superuser to executre install07:09
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ceritushow to I become a super user? (sorry for the stupid questions)07:10
raylumo0osah, conversion: http://www.jonhoweonline.com/blog/node/8207:10
raylu!sudo | ceritus07:10
ubotuceritus: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:10
DraxNSceritus: sudo or kdesu...07:10
DraxNS!kdesu07:10
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo07:10
DraxNS!sudo07:11
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DraxNShmm a bit of lag :-)07:11
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raylui think that's its queue07:11
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ceritusso i need to type "sudo ./*.deb" and type in the password?07:12
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DraxNSno07:12
DraxNSyou cannot do that07:13
DraxNSyou should really cover your basics...07:13
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DraxNSjust doubleclick on .deb file07:13
TheCreationistI just did a clean install of Edgy and now suddenly Amarok doesn't run.  I've run it in the terminal, but there are no error messages, it just quits.  Any ideas?07:14
DraxNSit will ask you what you want to do07:14
DraxNSchoose install07:14
ceritusit opens .ark07:14
DraxNSit's fine07:14
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DraxNSthere you have option install somewhere.. in ark07:14
noam_ark is an archive manager :/07:15
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ceritusif I right click on the *.deb file and select install from the package menu if blinks and thats that07:15
DraxNSI do not know why people do things the herdest way...07:15
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DraxNS=hardest07:15
dr_willisthey are used to the windows way of doing things.07:16
dr_willis:)07:16
noam_right click the .deb and choose something that looks like 'install'. double click opens the archive manager.07:16
DraxNSwhy o why dont you use adept or synaptic for installation?07:16
DraxNSthat is just beyond me :-)07:16
ceritusi just have the *.deb file07:16
ceritusif I could use adept I would07:16
DraxNSceritus: what file it is?07:16
DraxNSand why cant you use adept???07:17
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DraxNSthis is NOT windows you know... ;-)07:18
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DraxNSyou have about 20k packages at hand....07:18
DraxNSjust use adept or synaptic07:19
DraxNSand they will take care of all things07:19
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DraxNSintall/reinstall/remove07:19
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dr_willisi constantly amaze windows users by using the apt system and tools  to install stuff...07:20
dr_willis'you dident have to go to  the nvidia web site to get the drivers??? how did you do that!?'07:20
dr_willis:)07:21
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mo0osahWhen I try to mount something it says mount point does not exist07:21
mo0osah!mount point07:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mount point - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:22
mo0osah!mount07:22
sercikhi mo0osah can you write the exact command that you use?07:22
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter07:22
mo0osahmount -o loop -t iso9660 image.iso /mnt/image07:22
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sercikexcuse for the question but /mnt/image exists??07:22
mo0osahserick, no it doesnt.  but isnt it supposed to create it?07:23
DraxNSno07:23
sercikno i don't think07:23
sercikyou need to create before07:23
DraxNSmount point MUST exist07:23
sercikand then probably you need to use sudo to mount a file07:23
sercikand to create mount point07:23
DraxNSyes07:23
serciksudo mkdir /mnt/image07:23
mo0osahok thanks07:23
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DraxNSbasics... ahh those basics ;-)07:24
mo0osahthis is my 3rd hard working day :(07:24
DraxNSand there will be many more :-)07:24
sercikDraxNS i can't believe that people use linux.... and don't know what is a mount point...07:24
DraxNSbeleive it... sercik07:25
mo0osahhehe... i was trying to create the folder like windows but i guess i didnt have su access07:25
DraxNSonce again.... Linux is NOT Windows07:25
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noam_what's wrong with that? it's good that people can use the operating systems without knowing its internals.07:25
DraxNSyes... but as all other things... it requires LEARNING07:25
sercikbut is interesting to see many people experiment with linux also if they are not expert07:25
Jack333hmm07:26
Jack333how do i use a .run file/07:26
DraxNSand people DO NOT like to learn new stuff07:26
Jack333do i have to chmod it first?07:26
serciknoam_ this is a long question but the most part of us think that before use linux you need to know basic commands07:26
LynoureI like learning new stuff :)07:26
noam_sh filename, or give it execute permissions (konqueror can do that, right click -> properties on the file) and then just run it07:26
sercikJack333 chmod +x file.bin07:26
TheCreationistI just did a clean install of Edgy and now suddenly Amarok doesn't run.  I've run it in the terminal, but there are no error messages, it just quits.  Any ideas?07:26
sercikand then sudo ./filename.bin07:27
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sercikTheCreationist you have done a good think to run it into terminl but if there aren't error messages......07:27
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noam_TheCreationist, does amarok work when you load edgy as a live cd?07:28
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sercikJack333 if you do ls -sa --color executable are green07:28
serciksomeone is interesting to know alias commands??07:29
sercikalias is very useful to customize command at your needs?07:29
Jack333ah thx07:29
sercikcd07:29
sercikthen vi .bashrc07:29
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sercikand then insert alias ls='ls -sa --color'07:30
sercikalias cp='cp -i'07:30
sercikalias rm='rm -i'07:30
sercikand etc. etc..07:30
sercikfor example a goos use is to mount a partition07:30
sercikalias D='mount /dev/hda2'07:31
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sercikalias D='mount /dev/hda2; cd /media/D'07:31
sercikits enough for now07:31
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serciknoone need helps? i'm free for 15 minutes..07:33
MrBougoi don't :p07:34
MrBougoexcept if you know how to reinstall all the packages from the CD07:34
sercikOOOOOKKKKK i go to play with wwf superstars07:34
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MrBougoxDDD07:34
MrBougoand i go to reinstall my kubuntu07:34
serciki know07:34
MrBougohehe07:34
sercikyou can use a script07:34
MrBougoreinstalling is easier :p07:35
sercikenter the directory in which are .deb and do07:35
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sercikfor X in *; do dpkg -i $X done07:35
sercikor similar... i don't remember exactly the syntax07:36
MrBougosounds crazy, but it will install *everything*07:36
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MrBougoand i want it to reinstall all the packages i've ninstalled, so they come in english07:36
MrBougoerhm07:36
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MrBougoi'm reinstalling :'D07:36
serciki'm jiking07:36
serciki'm joking07:36
sercikbye!07:36
MrBougocya :p07:36
taime1is seamonkey not available in the repos?07:36
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TheCreationistnoam_: I didn't try running Amarok from the LiveCD.  But I know this is the first time I've reinstalled Kubuntu where Amarok did not work.  Should I just try removing my .amarok/ folder?07:37
noam_there isn't such. it's in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok. you can try, i don't know what will happen if you do that..07:38
TheCreationistnoam_: No, I meant in my /home/ folder... all the settings and such.07:38
noam_yeah. /home/yourusername/.kde/share/apps/amarok07:38
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taime1TheCreationist:  that has always worked for me on various programs07:38
TheCreationistnoam_, taime1: Alright, I'll give that a shot, then.07:39
taime1TheCreationist:  also try sudo apt-get --purge remove <package name>07:39
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haydar_damn07:40
haydar_kubuntu crashed07:40
TheCreationisttaime1: Well, purge and then reinstall didn't change a thing.07:40
haydar_-.- reinstalled07:40
taime1then yes, i wouold remove the .amarok folder07:40
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haydar_gg ati drivers -.-07:40
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taime1i want seamonkey!07:41
TheCreationistnoam_, taime1: Okay, deleting ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok did the trick ;)07:41
TheCreationisttaime1: So install it ;)07:41
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DraxNSI want... well it's not for public ;-)07:41
taime1awesome, looks like noam had it right07:42
noam_heh :) congratulations, TheCreationist07:42
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taime1ROFL  there is a guy in #ubuntu called nigro07:42
DraxNStaime1: so?07:43
MrBougoif i set some alias like "ls=ls --something"07:43
MrBougohow can i access the regular ls?07:43
sercikthe sintax in not right07:43
taime1DraxNS: sometimes i wonder why people do silly things07:43
DraxNS:-)07:43
sercikls='ls --somethin'07:43
haydar_Guys i followed the guide on wikipedia installing ATi drivers07:43
haydar_it all fucked up07:44
MrBougosercik, that's no the problem :p07:44
haydar_X couldt start -.-07:44
MrBougonot*07:44
sercikfor example you can set another alias07:44
haydar_anyone got another guide07:44
sercikalias dir='ls'07:44
taime1haydar_: there is no need to install the ati drivers manually07:44
MrBougosercik, i know, but i was wondering... is there some command to "bypass" an alias?07:44
sercikalias l='ls'07:44
haydar_taime107:44
taime1haydar_:  simply enable them in the restricted drivers manager07:44
serciki don't think07:44
haydar_how do i get there07:44
haydar_taime107:45
taime1system>administration>restricted drivers manager07:45
MrBougookay, thank you :p07:45
haydar_Taime107:45
MrBougooooh i found it07:45
haydar_i dont have administration07:45
MrBougoprefix the command with a backslash07:46
haydar_only system07:46
taime1oops...sorry, i am running gnome, my bad07:46
sercikMrBougo thanks for the tips07:46
DraxNShaydar_:07:46
taime1anyone?07:46
DraxNSsudo apt-get update07:46
DraxNSsudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-verzija_kernela_koji_koristite07:46
DraxNSsudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx07:46
DraxNSsudo depmod -a07:46
DraxNSsudo aticonfig --initial (umesto ovoga mozete samo u fajlu xorg.conf zamenuti rec ati recju fglrx u redovima gde pise driver=)07:46
DraxNSsudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv07:46
MrBougo:D07:46
MrBougothat can be pretty useful07:46
haydar_DraxNS07:46
haydar_i did that07:46
haydar_but maybe the thing i changed @ xorg file07:46
haydar_caused the crash07:47
DraxNSxorg.conf07:47
DraxNSSection "Extensions"07:47
DraxNSOption "Composite" "0"07:47
DraxNSEndSection07:47
haydar_yep07:47
haydar_i did it07:47
binksanyone here use jinzora07:47
haydar_after that i only got blackscreen07:47
DraxNSsudo ln -s /usr/lib/dri /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri07:47
binkshow do i get pictures to show in jinora07:47
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haydar_ok i'll try it07:47
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DraxNSthat worked for me on 6.10 :-)07:47
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haydar_xD i'm using 7.0407:48
haydar_maybe thats why it crashed07:48
DraxNSit should not matter07:48
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haydar_After i got into the command line07:48
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haydar_i typt sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf07:49
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haydar_and delete the section i made07:49
haydar_but i got a empty file07:49
DraxNSno xorg?07:49
haydar_" when it crashed "07:49
haydar_it was a empty file07:49
haydar_when  i opened it with nan07:49
haydar_o07:49
spanner3003anyone got linuxmce working?07:49
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TheCreationistspanner3003: Just the guy that made the demo video lol07:49
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DraxNShmmm interesting.. meny people are having issues with that.. ati and nvidia07:50
spanner3003oh :(07:50
DraxNSwhat fglrxinfo says haydar_ ?07:50
nipolohi there. using kubuntu feisty. I click an AVI file in konq and it opens in kaffeine. however, the only thing I see is blackness, and the seek slider07:50
nipolo...moves forward reaaaly fast07:50
binksnipolo: its a codec issue07:50
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DraxNS!codec07:51
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:51
haydar_Ok i'm installing the xorg-driver-fglrx07:51
haydar_i did that07:51
haydar_now just do the next step?07:51
nipoloI thought so. Thanks, I'll check those links :)07:51
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haydar_DraxNS07:51
haydar_haydar@haydar-desktop:~$ fglrxinfo07:51
haydar_display: :0.0  screen: 007:51
haydar_OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.07:51
haydar_OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 1x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCL07:51
haydar_OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 6.5.207:51
haydar_this is what i get at fglrxinfo07:51
haydar_atm07:51
DraxNSso you still have generic driver07:52
haydar_yep07:52
DraxNSNOT fglrx07:52
DraxNSedit xorg by hand07:52
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haydar_ok i'll do but i just finished installing the xorg-driver-fglrx07:52
DraxNSand where you have ati replace it withfglrx07:52
haydar_Hmm okay07:53
DraxNSand where you have ati replace it with fglrx07:53
haydar_DraxNS07:53
haydar_sudo depmod -a07:53
haydar_what does that do07:53
DraxNSthere should be 2 or 3 ati items07:53
DraxNSdepmod checks for dependencies... and updates them07:53
DraxNS-a says --all07:53
haydar_udo aticonfig --initial (umesto ovoga mozete samo u fajlu xorg.conf zamenuti rec ati recju fglrx u redovima gde pise driver=)07:54
haydar_what language :P is that07:54
DraxNSsorry07:54
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haydar_rofl07:54
DraxNSmy native language -)07:54
haydar_=)07:54
haydar_so i typ just07:54
haydar_aticonfig --initial07:54
haydar_?07:54
DraxNSDO NOT use that sudo aticonfig07:54
DraxNSit always breakes things up07:54
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haydar_LoL the only things i did atm are07:55
DraxNSinstead change ati fith fglrx in xorg.conf07:55
DraxNSfith = with07:55
haydar_ok07:55
haydar_but i already did this07:55
haydar_Ok i'm installing the xorg-driver-fglrx07:55
haydar_that07:56
haydar_so now i just go in the xorg.conf07:56
haydar_and change those stuff to what you told?07:56
DraxNSand replace ati with fglrx yes07:56
DraxNSafter that check with fglrxinfo07:56
DraxNSyou should get ati info... not mesa07:56
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haydar_do i need to do this 2 ?07:57
DraxNSwhat?07:57
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haydar_xorg.conf07:57
haydar_[19:47]  <DraxNS> Section "Extensions"07:57
haydar_[19:47]  <DraxNS> Option "Composite" "0"07:57
haydar_[19:47]  <DraxNS> EndSection07:57
DraxNSyes.... if it is not there07:57
DraxNSyou have to add that07:57
SlimG2When I start konqueror 3.5.6 (kubuntu 7.04) with a tab located at $HOME and use "View > View Mode > Detailed List View" Konqueror doesn't write a $HOME/.directory file and thus forgets for future use that I prefer "Detailed List View", what's wrong?07:58
haydar_wtf i get alot of errors07:58
haydar_kate /etc/x11/xorg.conf07:58
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haydar_sudo kate /etc/x11/xorg.conf07:59
haydar_kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!07:59
haydar_kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!07:59
haydar_KCrash: Application 'kate' crashing...07:59
haydar_Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server07:59
haydar_Xlib: No protocol specified07:59
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haydar_any idea :S?07:59
DraxNScan you start kate at all?07:59
DraxNSlike user08:00
haydar_it starts08:00
haydar_with user but08:00
haydar_haydar@haydar-desktop:~$ kate08:00
haydar_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16908:00
haydar_  Major opcode:  14508:00
haydar_  Minor opcode:  308:00
haydar_  Resource id:  0x008:00
DraxNSdo you get it?08:00
haydar_Failed to open device08:00
haydar_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16908:00
haydar_  Major opcode:  14508:00
haydar_  Minor opcode:  308:00
haydar_  Resource id:  0x008:00
haydar_Failed to open dev08:00
haydar_then it starts08:00
haydar_what do you mean?08:00
DraxNSno matter of errors08:00
haydar_aah ok08:00
haydar_yep08:01
DraxNSdo you get kate08:01
haydar_kate starts08:01
DraxNSok08:01
DraxNSnow.. kdesu kate08:01
DraxNSand wait :-)08:01
haydar_it started08:01
haydar_now what :P08:01
DraxNSopen xorg and edit it :-)08:01
DraxNSas explained before08:01
haydar_lets try08:01
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DraxNSgo go go ;-)08:01
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haydar_a empty file08:02
haydar_wtf08:02
haydar_do kate /etc/x11/xorg.conf08:02
DraxNSwelll08:02
DraxNSit is /etc/X11 NOT /et/x1108:02
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DraxNSwrong path08:03
DraxNSX not x08:03
haydar_HAHAHA08:03
haydar_omg08:03
haydar_thx08:03
DraxNSo yeah08:03
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haydar_this is why it didnt work in commandline :P08:03
haydar_forgot the capital X08:03
haydar_lol08:03
haydar_xD08:03
DraxNSas usual.. PEBKAC08:03
haydar_:P what does it mean08:03
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DraxNSProblem Exists Between Kayboard And Chair ;-)08:04
haydar_xD08:04
haydar_fglrx08:04
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haydar_@ all ati stuff08:04
DraxNSyes08:04
DraxNSand that composite stuff08:05
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DraxNSif it is not there08:05
haydar_lol ok: )08:05
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haydar_i only see one with ati08:06
haydar_u told me there where 3 or 208:06
haydar_:P08:06
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haydar_DraxNS08:07
DraxNSyes08:07
haydar_there is only one ati08:07
haydar_in the file08:07
haydar_and i changed that08:07
DraxNSoh well... you do not have tvout?08:07
haydar_=p nope08:07
DraxNSthat is why you have only one :-)08:07
haydar_xD ok now lets add that piece08:07
haydar_searching08:07
DraxNScomposite08:07
DraxNSyes08:08
DraxNSone advice... ALWAYS back up config files BEFORE messing with them08:08
haydar_Ok:)08:08
DraxNSit may come handy ;-)08:08
haydar_:P or just change what u added ownd:P08:09
DraxNS;-)08:09
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DraxNSif you have changed/added all that had to be added.. save and exit :-)08:10
chris__HI08:10
DraxNSand either reboot or ctrl+alt+backspace08:10
tobias_hello dear people:)08:10
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haydar_ok i saved it08:10
haydar_lets pray :P08:10
haydar_drax08:11
DraxNSit will work... or not ;_)08:11
haydar_i'm restarting08:11
haydar_:P08:11
haydar_Just complete08:11
chris__what's this? ctrl+alt+backspace08:11
haydar_Xserv restart?08:11
DraxNSshortcut for restarting X08:11
DraxNSyes08:11
haydar_draxns08:11
haydar_if i do that08:11
haydar_Restart X08:11
haydar_will it just popup again08:11
haydar_the gui08:11
haydar_or do i need to do something special :P08:11
tobias_does anyone know how i can divide a big file into smaller files? i need some kind of archiving program like winzip or winrar only for kubuntu :)08:12
syntax_search a german irc channel, can anybody help me?08:12
Sanne!de | syntax_08:12
ubotusyntax_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:12
Sannesyntax_: :)08:12
DraxNStobias_: use krusader08:12
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tobias_kool, thanx :)08:13
DraxNStobias_: it has option for splitting files08:13
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DraxNSlike total commander on windows08:13
tobias_thats just great!08:13
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DraxNSI just splited kubuntu dvd ;-)08:14
DraxNSand composed it back again :-)08:14
chris__gnome-commander or bsc?08:14
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tobias_can the files be easily put together on a windows machine? my friend has a winbox :)08:14
DraxNStobias_: sorry... not sure about that08:15
tobias_oki08:15
DraxNStry with smaller files and tc08:15
DraxNSit uses I think same .crc file08:15
DraxNSI do not have windows quite some time... so I do not know08:15
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MrBougobye08:16
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nininawhen using beryl, can one get adept Noifier to go into the icon bar thing?08:16
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