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| cypherdelic_ | hello | 12:58 |
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| cypherdelic_ | im currently upgrading packets to gutsy | 12:59 |
| cypherdelic_ | lets rock | 12:59 |
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| cypherdelic | my synaptic and apt-get are crippled because of havp. i cant either install, nor remove it or update and and blocking me from updating to gutsy | 01:53 |
| cypherdelic | the preremoval script flunc me out because havp does not even is running | 01:54 |
| cypherdelic | because filesystem is not in mandatory mode | 01:54 |
| cypherdelic | so i edited /etc/fstab and added ,mand right after errors=remount-ro | 01:55 |
| cypherdelic | but it's still the same | 01:56 |
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| cypherdelic | please help | 02:00 |
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| cypherdelic | UUID=a4e89dae-348f-4d5d-90e0-da29f660fbcc / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,mand 0 1 | 02:04 |
| cypherdelic | Starting havp: Starting HAVP Version: 0.82 | 02:04 |
| cypherdelic | Filesystem not supporting mandatory locks! | 02:04 |
| cypherdelic | On Linux, you need to mount filesystem with "-o mand" | 02:04 |
| cypherdelic | Exiting.. | 02:04 |
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| gnomefreak | !info havp gutsy | 02:11 |
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| ubotu | havp: HTTP Anti Virus Proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.85-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 153 kB, installed size 932 kB | 02:11 |
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| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: get rid of it off your pc its not installed on mine | 02:12 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: your upgrade is failing due to broken gutsy | 02:12 |
| gnomefreak | hint dont upgrade yet | 02:12 |
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| cypherdelic | it was exactly the same error with feisty i swear to all goddamn it-gods EXACTLY | 02:12 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: cant be since hapv doesnt exist in feisty | 02:13 |
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| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: unless you installed it from unofficial repos or unofficial deb | 02:13 |
| cypherdelic | so why was that message annoying me for weeks???? | 02:13 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: you most likely have a mixed system | 02:14 |
| cypherdelic | i just want to uninstall remove clean eliminate any of it | 02:14 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: some gutsy packages with some feisty packages | 02:14 |
| cypherdelic | not to upgrade | 02:14 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: i suggest you install feisty from ISO and wait to upgrade to gutsy for a while | 02:14 |
| gnomefreak | mixed system == no going backwards | 02:14 |
| cypherdelic | gnomefreak: I am running Feisty | 02:15 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: with gutsy packages | 02:15 |
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| cypherdelic | please listen carefully | 02:15 |
| cypherdelic | no | 02:15 |
| cypherdelic | NO no no | 02:15 |
| gnomefreak | !info havp feisty | 02:15 |
| ubotu | havp: HTTP Anti Virus Proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.82-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 139 kB, installed size 880 kB | 02:15 |
| gnomefreak | hmmmmmm | 02:15 |
| cypherdelic | please listen for one secand | 02:15 |
| cypherdelic | +i WANT to update, but at the moment i DIDN'T, listen | 02:15 |
| cypherdelic | apt-get downloaded 260mb | 02:16 |
| cypherdelic | packages from gutsy | 02:16 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: ok look if your on feisty leave the word gutsy out of your questions and bring it back to #ubuntu. DO NOT UPGRADE YET | 02:16 |
| cypherdelic | only downloaded to cashe | 02:16 |
| jrib | .85 is a gutsy version | 02:16 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: than sudo apt-get auto-clean | 02:16 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: make sure you do that before you run dpkg | 02:16 |
| jrib | cypherdelic: at this point you can try various hacks to force things, but I'd strongly recommend you make backups now | 02:17 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: hint gutsy is broken dont upgrade to it. fix your feisty install and call it a day downloading packages is one step the way you dont want to go | 02:17 |
| cypherdelic | you expect me what i wanna do, you dont know me | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: im warning you as i have 2 gutsy systems | 02:19 |
| gnomefreak | and im packaging for gutsy | 02:19 |
| gnomefreak | this is not really a support channel at this point since there is nothing really to support. | 02:19 |
| cypherdelic | im getting a bowner of installing bleeding edge, ok? | 02:19 |
| cypherdelic | boner | 02:19 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: it looks like its erroring on setting up btw | 02:19 |
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| cypherdelic | i was with feisty from alpha | 02:20 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: heres a hint hack it until it removes and uninstalls than try again. im assuming you know how to do that since you want to run gutsy | 02:20 |
| gnomefreak | if you dont know how man apt-get and man dpkg | 02:20 |
| gnomefreak | s/ how man/how than man | 02:21 |
| cypherdelic | i already tried force-yes and ignore-various, no effect | 02:21 |
| cypherdelic | i know how to use 'man' i already did, thats why i came here | 02:22 |
| gnomefreak | doesnt remember a force-yes | 02:22 |
| gnomefreak | i do remember a --force-all | 02:22 |
| gnomefreak | or a dpkg -r package | 02:22 |
| gnomefreak | or apt-get remove --purge package | 02:22 |
| gnomefreak | sudo dpkg --config -a | 02:22 |
| gnomefreak | and a few others you may need to run. but again its not advisable to upgrade as more than likely in the next few days you will lose X and a few other things | 02:23 |
| gnomefreak | but do as you wish but you were warned before hand | 02:23 |
| cypherdelic | doesnt work packe is inconsistant | 02:24 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: hence the part where me and jrib said "hack it" | 02:24 |
| gnomefreak | hint find everyplace it was installed to find the files to edit or remove | 02:25 |
| cypherdelic | dont be phylosific | 02:25 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: im being serious nothing more | 02:25 |
| Jordan_U | cypherdelic, Your problem is probably in /etc/init.d/havp | 02:25 |
| cypherdelic | i can imagine thousand things of hacking but definetly NOT hacking an inconsitent package | 02:26 |
| cypherdelic | i have no idea | 02:26 |
| cables | Where can I find a roadmap/list of planned changes or particular areas of focus for Gutsy? | 02:26 |
| gnomefreak | problem is caused by a broken package | 02:26 |
| Jordan_U | cypherdelic, You may be able to make dpkg happy by simply moving that file and putting a blank one in it's place | 02:26 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: Jordan_U gave you a place to start looking | 02:26 |
| cypherdelic | Jordan_U: that file exist thats not the problem | 02:27 |
| jrib | cables: check the specs on launchpad | 02:27 |
| cypherdelic | i looked there before | 02:27 |
| jrib | cypherdelic: read the script that's failing | 02:27 |
| cypherdelic | please dont talk to me like a noob or a kid | 02:27 |
| cables | jrib, where on Launchpad would I find it? | 02:27 |
| cypherdelic | come to the point and make it clear | 02:27 |
| jrib | cables: "blueprints" | 02:27 |
| cables | cypherdelic, you're using VERY alpha software, and you're upset by a bug. You've got to be patient. | 02:28 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: 20:26 < Jordan_U > cypherdelic, You may be able to make dpkg happy by simply moving that file and putting a blank one in it's place | 02:28 |
| gnomefreak | its not alpha yet | 02:28 |
| gnomefreak | it hasnt been released for public use | 02:28 |
| cypherdelic | cables: definetly using final software | 02:28 |
| cables | gnomefreak, well, then below Alpha. | 02:28 |
| cypherdelic | hey im with feisty final | 02:29 |
| cypherdelic | i have a package that i cant uninstall | 02:29 |
| cables | Why are you here then? | 02:29 |
| Jordan_U | cypherdelic, Try commenting out lines 36 and 37 | 02:29 |
| cypherdelic | I already found the script thats making problems | 02:29 |
| cypherdelic | i posted the link | 02:29 |
| cables | cypherdelic, why were you sent to this channel if you're using Feisty? | 02:29 |
| Jordan_U | cypherdelic, The link you posted to me what just the output from apt | 02:30 |
| jrib | cables: he tried to upgrade to gutsy | 02:30 |
| Jordan_U | s/what/was | 02:30 |
| cypherdelic | i believe some of you just throwing their standard issuefixies out dont care if it is usefull or not | 02:30 |
| cypherdelic | yes | 02:30 |
| cables | cypherdelic, I wouldn't call it "feisty final" if it's a half-upgraded and broken system. | 02:30 |
| cypherdelic | Jordan_U: so would you please tell me how to put my ext3 to mandatory mode? | 02:30 |
| Jordan_U | cypherdelic, Have you tried commenting out line 36 and 37 in /etc/inti.d/havp and running apt-get install ? | 02:31 |
| cypherdelic | that i can start havp finally | 02:31 |
| cypherdelic | as i asked at the very beginning | 02:31 |
| Jordan_U | cypherdelic, That should at least let you remove havp | 02:31 |
| cypherdelic | and then getting the preremoval script stop it | 02:31 |
| cypherdelic | and im fine, your fine | 02:31 |
| cypherdelic | i can go on shoout my os with gutsy, please dont care | 02:32 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: did you run mv /etc/init.d/havp /etc/init.d/havp.1 yet with sudo? and see if it fixed your problem? | 02:32 |
| Jordan_U | cypherdelic, Have you tried commenting out line 36 and 37 in /etc/inti.d/havp and running apt-get install ? | 02:32 |
| Jordan_U | cypherdelic, That should let you remove the package | 02:32 |
| cables | Is there any way to get Gutsy ISOs, or are they not built yet? I'd like to try it in VMware. (Did I already ask this? I scrolled up and it doesn't look like it, but I remember asking) | 02:33 |
| gnomefreak | cables: not buiolt yet | 02:33 |
| gnomefreak | built* | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | cables: doesnt work. | 02:33 |
| gnomefreak | cables: we are working through an X merge atm now is not a good time | 02:33 |
| cables | ok | 02:33 |
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| cables | could I try it by upgrading from Feisty, or are the repos incomplete? | 02:33 |
| gnomefreak | not to mention the kernel merges | 02:33 |
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| catid | omg SLUB should not be in the stable kernel =( | 02:34 |
| gnomefreak | cables: incomplete as there are gutsy and feisty packages mixed and alot of things wont work until rebuilt | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: it's working okay, for the most part | 02:34 |
| catid | it BUG()s on my usb webcam | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: my machine hasnt blown up all morning | 02:34 |
| cables | gnomefreak, ok, thanks for your info | 02:34 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: i have 2 gutsy systmes | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: but i've had to fix some things in it, yes. | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | right | 02:34 |
| Jordan_U | cables, You can try it but it will probably fail miserably, should be fun as long as it's just a VM :) | 02:34 |
| catid | and it makes e1000 ethernet cards lag the whole computer on tx | 02:34 |
| cables | Hobbsee, how often does your machine deflagrate? | 02:34 |
| gnomefreak | plus a number of chroots | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | cables: deflagrate? | 02:35 |
| gnomefreak | break maybe he means | 02:35 |
| catid | Hobbsee: destroy flags | 02:35 |
| cables | Hobbsee, burn up, explode, blow up :) | 02:35 |
| gnomefreak | im not sure the meaning of that word either | 02:35 |
| cypherdelic | Jordan_U: no that didnt work | 02:35 |
| cables | ooh was I using that word incorrectly? | 02:35 |
| catid | cables: conflagrate perhaps? | 02:35 |
| cypherdelic | uninstall didnt work because its still inconsistant | 02:35 |
| cables | aha | 02:36 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: you edited it with sudo ? | 02:36 |
| cypherdelic | and install didnt work that way | 02:36 |
| cables | the dictionary app says I'm right :) | 02:36 |
| Hobbsee | cables: not most days. depends. depends how you define "break" too | 02:36 |
| catid | cables wins | 02:36 |
| gnomefreak | cables: im sure you are | 02:36 |
| cypherdelic | of course as i said please dont handle me as a noob | 02:36 |
| Jordan_U | cypherdelic, Sorry, I forgot the -f after install, ie, sudo apt-get -f install | 02:36 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: did you try the simple way yet? | 02:36 |
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| Jordan_U | cypherdelic, or sudo dpkg --configure -a | 02:36 |
| gnomefreak | move the file it will regen itself during dpkg --config -a | 02:37 |
| cypherdelic | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 02:37 |
| gnomefreak | *should* | 02:37 |
| catid | CFSv13 is more awesome than the rest | 02:37 |
| Jordan_U | cypherdelic, Try commenting out lines 42 and 43 also | 02:37 |
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| catid | swap prefetch is slick too, they work great | 02:37 |
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| sparr | short of running my own repository mirror and keeping a symlink updated, is there any way to always use the latest ubuntu packages without updating my sources every few months? | 02:38 |
| cypherdelic | im triha its generating my initramfs for gutsy kernel | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | sparr: no. but you probably dont want to, either. | 02:39 |
| gnomefreak | sparr: chroots but you wont get new kernels. maybe vmware but you dont have a gutsy ISO yet | 02:39 |
| sparr | gnomefreak: huh? | 02:39 |
| gnomefreak | sparr: gutsy chroot than install the new packages and use them. install gutsy in vmware when a good gutsy ISO is out | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | and yay @ people who ask the same thing in multiple channels... | 02:40 |
| cypherdelic | gnomefreak: thanks it seem to work | 02:40 |
| sparr | gnomefreak: i fail to see how that is at all relevant to my question | 02:40 |
| cypherdelic | it finally updated havp | 02:40 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: can we please place a sign on door that says man mv before upgrading | 02:40 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: i know it would. it has to regen itself upon starting | 02:41 |
| gnomefreak | it regens itself with gutsys version | 02:41 |
| cypherdelic | gnomefreak: thanks for your effort handling my bad constitution :) | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: sure, but no one will read it. | 02:41 |
| gnomefreak | ^^^ helpfull things to know incase more breakage | 02:41 |
| Jordan_U | cypherdelic, Note that havp isn't actually fixed, I just made dpkg stop complaining so you could remove it | 02:41 |
| cypherdelic | germany is getting as crazy as usa im getting little more nervous every day :D | 02:42 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: now remove the old /etc/..... profile and you should be fine atleast for that issue | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: what's wrong with mv? | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: oh, as in, "make a backup"? | 02:42 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: yep | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | right, eyah | 02:42 |
| gnomefreak | failing file mv it start over | 02:43 |
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| cypherdelic | Jordan_U: it updated finally to a newer version so i think the init.d script was replaced wasnt it? | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | didnt have a CD, and the bandwidth was so good at UDS... | 02:43 |
| Jordan_U | cypherdelic, Only if the script was changed, check it to be sure. | 02:43 |
| cypherdelic | im going for a risky dist-upgrade now | 02:44 |
| cypherdelic | i dont really care about havp | 02:44 |
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| jcole | cypherdelic: you should always pin before you add repos | 02:44 |
| cypherdelic | as long as it is not annoying my with bugs during apt-get session im fine | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | jcole: pin what? | 02:44 |
| jcole | Hobbsee: /etc/apt/preferences | 02:45 |
| cypherdelic | jcole: why should i do that? that way is more fun | 02:45 |
| catid | so does Ubuntu really use event-based startup with upstart? why is everything still in init.d and not event.d? | 02:45 |
| cypherdelic | all my data is on crypted volume | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | jcole: empty file | 02:45 |
| cypherdelic | i have no fear | 02:45 |
| jcole | cypherdelic: depends what your definition of fun is, lol | 02:45 |
| cypherdelic | im a apprentice in it-systemengineer | 02:46 |
| cypherdelic | and my collegues are the guys who cheat every certificate and doing lan all day, using vista | 02:46 |
| jcole | Hobbsee: ya, it is by default, here's mine -> http://pastebin.ca/493948 | 02:46 |
| cypherdelic | i assume bleeding edge ubuntu to be FUN | 02:46 |
| cypherdelic | :D :D :D | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | jcole: ah right | 02:46 |
| catid | oh it is | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | cypherdelic: when it boots, yes. | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | cypherdelic: and when X works. | 02:47 |
| sparr | i switch from release to bleeding edge every time i realize that bleeding edge has a package i need | 02:47 |
| jcole | sparr: backports | 02:47 |
| sparr | no way in hell am i waiting 6 months to get a version of [whatever] that came out one day too late to make the last release | 02:47 |
| sparr | jcole: if i felt like maintaining backports, i would just run gentoo | 02:47 |
| cypherdelic | if not im trying again, im with 16mbit, i install, update, config everything in less then three hours | 02:48 |
| catid | cypherdelic: you'll be amused for days trying to get your system to boot again. whee | 02:48 |
| catid | cypherdelic: it beats playing video games like all your windows frens | 02:48 |
| cypherdelic | dont blame my entertainment education | 02:48 |
| jcole | sparr: backports are unsupported packaged for older releases that are in newer releases | 02:48 |
| jcole | packages* | 02:48 |
| sparr | jcole: im well aware of that. | 02:49 |
| sparr | i dont feel like compiling or packaging them, and no one is going to do it for me, so im stuck using the newer releases | 02:49 |
| sparr | and pre-releases | 02:49 |
| jcole | /info sparr | 02:49 |
| jcole | heh | 02:49 |
| sparr | im on gutsy now waiting for a new version of wine, actually | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | sparr: which is all good, assuming it boots. | 02:49 |
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| sparr | Hobbsee: assuming what boots? | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | sparr: gutsy. | 02:50 |
| jcole | sparr: add the wine repos then | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | jcole: doesnt happen for the development version of ubuntu | 02:50 |
| sparr | jcole: no. | 02:50 |
| cypherdelic | catid: but in contrast to my interest my employer doesnt like my attidues, im kinda rebel | 02:50 |
| jcole | sparr: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb | 02:50 |
| sparr | jcole: well, yes, but "no" in the sense that most apps dont have their own repos | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | btw, has anyone got the new polyester yet, and has it broken the entire world? | 02:51 |
| jcole | sparr: if wine is your only reason not to run a stable ubuntu, then you can use that repo | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | i uploaded it this morning | 02:51 |
| sparr | it isnt | 02:51 |
| sparr | hundreds of programs are | 02:51 |
| sparr | 99s of which dont have repos of their own | 02:51 |
| catid | cypherdelic: you should play to that. come in with a headband on, on your motorcycle, wearing chains and put your feet up on desk smoking a cigarette, then spend the whole day trying to get gutsy booting on your laptop, while making dirty gestures at the receptionist | 02:51 |
| cypherdelic | the little microsoft, cisco, skulls&bones was a too small ocean for my interests | 02:51 |
| sparr | Hobbsee: i never said i was (dist-)upgrading to gutsy, im not crazy | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | sparr: ahh, right. | 02:52 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: i havent seen it. is it stuck in NEW like everything else? | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | sparr: one of the archive guys had to chroot into his system 6 times in the first couple of months of feisty development | 02:52 |
| gnomefreak | once iceape gets the push out of NEW i can start on dapper backports | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: dont think so...no new binary....there was nothing in there yesterday | 02:52 |
| sparr | im just installing a few gutsy packages on top of a mostly-feisty system | 02:52 |
| sparr | the packages i need, and their dependencies | 02:52 |
| cypherdelic | catid: i dont get your point, you think its waste of time? | 02:53 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: for gutsy, that is | 02:53 |
| catid | cypherdelic: =P | 02:53 |
| sparr | hell, probably a mostly-edgy system | 02:53 |
| sparr | i dont think i did a dist-upgrade to feisty | 02:53 |
| gnomefreak | i heard iceape was in binary NEW and i know its stuck in source NEW. alot of the guys had holiday today i heard so i didnt ping anyone today | 02:54 |
| catid | feisty dist-upgrade was slick.. just a few broken things on boot | 02:54 |
| gnomefreak | germany/NL/dutch holiday | 02:54 |
| sparr | with debian i did dist-upgrade on a regular basis, but with ubuntu it doesnt seem worth it | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: i'm of the opinion that the link is broken, or something - it does look suspiciously empty | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: there must be a way on LP to find source new, too... | 02:55 |
| gnomefreak | very possible that could be why everything is stuck | 02:55 |
| cypherdelic | The normal gutsy packages are already installed, no problems, now the dist-uprade and reboot with kernel 2.6.22 | 02:55 |
| gnomefreak | there was i had it. i looked at it the other day | 02:55 |
| gnomefreak | cypherdelic: before running dist-upgrade run sudo dpkg --configure -a | 02:55 |
| cypherdelic | i did | 02:55 |
| cypherdelic | :) | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: the output link being broken wouldnt mean the queue is lost - just unaccessible. | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | !grub | 02:56 |
| ubotu | grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto | 02:56 |
| gnomefreak | yes but that means they cant push anything right? | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | to us, not to them | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | they have ssh | 02:56 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 02:57 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if one can install grub onto an active partition, while one is running the cd... | ||
| gnomefreak | well that was the only thing i could think of for having such a slow day with upgrades | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | er, while one is actually running the system | 02:58 |
| cypherdelic | my german school's teaching ciscos ACL instead of open standards ip firewalls, just because they get the extreme expensive routers, that are so famous for corporates, a little cheaper. | 02:58 |
| cypherdelic | i knew firewall principles from iptables, ACL, was no prob, but in the other way, no one of my classmates does know how to set up a priceless firewall that is more secure than cisco proprietary | 03:00 |
| cypherdelic | muha | 03:01 |
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| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: polester was updated | 03:11 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: yes. :) | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: does it cause ZOMG BREAKAGE? | 03:12 |
| gnomefreak | i havent booted to kde yet | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | right | 03:12 |
| gnomefreak | will check in morning | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | guess i'll find out soon enough | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | seeing as it got uploaded to both debian and ubuntu this morning. | 03:12 |
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