[05:09] <nothlit> troy_s: https://people.fluxbuntu.org/~nothlit/communitytheme/gutsy/sketches/
[05:10] <nothlit> troy_s: if you elaborate on the blueprints thing i could think about how to present it
[05:16] <troy_s> hrm... have you seen the rather stale blue graphpaper wallpaper
[05:16] <troy_s> ?
[05:16] <troy_s> its basically somewhere in between that and a wireframe evolution of wire into life...
[05:16] <troy_s> let me show you a video i shot... erik did something like it involving a tree...
[05:18] <nothlit> bah i saved a blank page over it by accident, readding text now
[05:19] <nothlit> troy_s: i probably haven't seen it
[05:20] <troy_s> nothlit: I don't know if you have seen this one... hold on...
[05:21] <troy_s> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0RniSNWdYM
[05:21] <troy_s> i can't rmember where the wireframe comes into play
[05:21] <troy_s> but watch it...
[05:21] <troy_s> it is funny, because it is almost exactly the idea proposed a while back...
[05:23] <troy_s> nothlit: I think it is after the bridge
[05:23] <troy_s> 2/3rds
[05:23] <darkmatter> gods.. drawing with a mouse is like trying to delicately manipulate a VERY large boulder
[05:23] <darkmatter> I so need a tablet
[05:25] <nothlit> mousers have done some amazing things too :)
[05:25] <troy_s> looool
[05:27] <darkmatter> nothlit, just the method doesnt suit me... to many years with clay and paint and charcoal, if ya hear what I'm saying
[05:28] <troy_s> darkmatter: amen
[05:28] <troy_s> mice suck
[05:28] <troy_s> lets face it
[05:28] <darkmatter> dont get me wrong... mouse does work... just takes sooo long
[05:29] <troy_s> if they didn't, the mouse would have preceded the pencil
[05:29] <nothlit> darkmatter: lol...messy materials there :)
[05:29] <darkmatter> so hard to get anything right with the mouse
[05:30] <darkmatter> nothlit, aye. especially the clays
[05:30] <darkmatter> though I've switched to polymer clay of late.. doesnt feel as natural and not nearly as fun to work with... but easy cleanup
[05:32] <nothlit> and i'm guessing easier to make molds of
[05:33] <troy_s> darkmatter: And it gets stuck in those monitor buttons and all over the screen when you are sculpting on it.
[05:33] <darkmatter> lol
[05:33] <darkmatter> that too
[05:34] <darkmatter> nothlit, yup.. doesnt tranfer well to digital applications though
[05:35] <nothlit> darkmatter: zbrush+tablet for that
[05:35] <nothlit> especially a cintiq :D *grins*
[05:35] <darkmatter> yup...if I had a tablet
[05:36] <darkmatter> you have a cintiq????
[05:36] <darkmatter> damn.
[05:36] <nothlit> nah
[05:36] <nothlit> tabletpc
[05:36] <troy_s> hell... i spent 900 bucks on an intuitos 2 tab
[05:36] <troy_s> and now it is junk
[05:36] <troy_s> sad
[05:36] <darkmatter> ouch
[05:36] <nothlit> but all the coolest demos of zbrush are on cintiqs
[05:37] <troy_s> to be honest, you almost get your best bang for buck out of the bloody graphire / bamboo models
[05:37] <troy_s> wtf is zbrush?
[05:37] <troy_s> (prepares for lol)
[05:39] <nothlit> its like 'painter' for 3d
[05:40] <nothlit> troy_s: http://www.highend3d.com/articles/reviews/16.html
[05:40] <darkmatter> I need to brush up on my blender skillz (or lack thereof)
[05:41] <nothlit> its pretty sophisticated, you can do quite a lot, the modeling is more intuitive, the approach to animation makes sense too--but i don't do 3d lol
[05:42] <nothlit> theres quite a few narrated videos you can watch
[05:43] <darkmatter> I was spoiled by maya.... but no free version for nix and no way I'm going tospend 6 grand on open motif :P
[05:47] <nothlit> oh yars, painting on the model too
[05:49] <troy_s> ahhh ... i do recall that now..
[05:49] <troy_s> feck me that is a killer tab
[06:05] <nothlit> troy_s: so you meant a structure reveal for organic materials?
[06:19] <troy_s> nothlit: Maybe... migth be cool
[06:20] <troy_s> nothlit: Some high tech glowey wireframe coolness into an organic structure like roots or...
[06:20] <troy_s> nothlit: Root to electricity
[06:35] <nothlit> troy_s: hows that represent progress?
[06:38] <troy_s> nothlit: I think if you create the rooty's as sort of evolving into electricity possibly it could work
[06:38] <troy_s> nothlit: or coming together and moving forwards
[06:54] <nothlit> troy_s: and the collaboration?
[07:06] <troy_s> nothlit: I was thinking of a merging / progression
[07:07] <troy_s> nothlit: half being the coming together of the roots / vines / wahteer
[07:07] <troy_s> nothlit: and half being the flashy glowey techy 'wow' portion
[08:38] <darkmatter> AHHA! thats what I'll do with the steppers!