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| welshbyte | persia: congratulations :) | 12:28 |
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| persia | Just to verify, would `debuild -S -sa -k<mykey>` be a reasonable command to apply someone else's changes? | 12:29 |
| persia | welshbyte: Thanks. | 12:29 |
| TheMuso | persia: Would work. Don' tforget you don't need -sa if its not a new .orig tarball. | 12:36 |
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| Hobbsee | persia: yes | 12:37 |
| TheMuso | chroot updating time. | 12:37 |
| persia | TheMuso: Thanks. I'll go with debuild -S -k then. | 12:37 |
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| ubuntu_ | How come there is no seamonkey ? | 12:38 |
| TheMuso | c | 12:41 |
| TheMuso | gah | 12:41 |
| joejaxx | TheMuso: :P | 12:41 |
| joejaxx | ubuntu_: there should be for gutsy gibbon | 12:42 |
| ubuntu_ | joejaxx: Whoot! What was the hold up? | 12:42 |
| ubuntu_ | no Guts? | 12:42 |
| Hobbsee | joejaxx: there should? | 12:45 |
| joejaxx | Hobbsee: yeap | 12:46 |
| Hobbsee | cool | 12:47 |
| === ubuntu_ pins joejaxx to his word | ||
| joejaxx | :) | 12:48 |
| joejaxx | ubuntu_: i was wondering that too | 12:48 |
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| joejaxx | ubuntu_: i actually packaged iceape because i might use it in fluxbuntu | 12:49 |
| ubuntu_ | Whoot fluxbuntu :-) | 12:49 |
| === ubuntu_ votes for ebuntu :-D | ||
| joejaxx | ebuntu? which one is that? | 12:50 |
| Hobbsee | ubuntu with enlightenment, i'd guess | 12:50 |
| joejaxx | oh that is elbuntu | 12:50 |
| === joejaxx grrs at the ubuntu derivative stereotype :P | ||
| ubuntu_ | Heehee | 12:50 |
| ubuntu_ | there is a #ebuntu but it's been empty for like 6 months now | 12:51 |
| joejaxx | ubuntu_: #elbuntu | 12:51 |
| ubuntu_ | Seriously? :-\ ? | 12:52 |
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| ubuntu_ | Gotta go | 12:54 |
| joejaxx | ubuntu_: bye :) | 12:55 |
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| joejaxx | this is great | 12:58 |
| joejaxx | :) | 12:58 |
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| flithm | Hobbsee: hey you seen pricey in a while? | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | flithm: yeah, he was around earlier. ahd to go to lecture | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | flithm: use pricechild@ubuntu.com | 01:49 |
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| flithm | cool thanks | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | flithm: or any other contact info | 01:50 |
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| TheMuso | 0/c | 02:28 |
| TheMuso | gah | 02:29 |
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| ranf | hi | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | hiya | 04:25 |
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| ranf | hi Hobbsee | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:33 |
| jsgotangco | hey | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | hi spam! | 04:52 |
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| Hobbsee | dear $mailing list user. The mailing list is not the bugtracker. Please file all bugs on the bugtracker. Kthxbye. | 04:54 |
| wolfeon | heh | 05:00 |
| RAOF | :) Hey Hobbsee | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | hi RAOF :) | 05:06 |
| Simon80 | Hobbsee: so true | 05:09 |
| TheMuso | Well, probably the bugs tag should be set to something else. | 05:11 |
| TheMuso | Because that will keep happening if the bugs tag is set to the ML address. | 05:11 |
| Simon80 | heh, ...sort of like every mesa bug | 05:11 |
| Simon80 | I guess it's a way of making sure bugs get dealt with, spam everyone on the ML | 05:12 |
| RAOF | So, is anyone actually replying to that guy, or shall I hit "send" :) | 05:12 |
| TheMuso | No. | 05:12 |
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| RAOF | Yay for coding, and extremely ambiguous responses :P | 05:13 |
| TheMuso | heh | 05:14 |
| ScottK | RAOF: FWIW, I say hit send. | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | go send. | 05:15 |
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| Hobbsee | 88% [11 Sources 378859/1175kB 32%] 19.3kB/s 41s | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | grumble. | 05:15 |
| TheMuso | heh | 05:18 |
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| minghua | I need a translation for bug 115180 | 05:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 115180 in texlive-base "no se ha podido instalar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115180 | 05:32 |
| crimsun | hmm, roughly "haven't been able to install"? | 05:34 |
| crimsun | my romance languages are fairly poor, however | 05:34 |
| persia | minghua: It is not possible to install. This output was produced when upgrading to 7.04 from 6.10. (I think). | 05:34 |
| persia | minghua: Oh, and "The post-installation script produced an error code of 1" | 05:35 |
| minghua | persia: can you change the bug description directly? | 05:35 |
| crimsun | persia: enjoying your newfound privileges yet? :-) | 05:35 |
| minghua | what is that language by the way? | 05:35 |
| === persia refreshes the Portuguese language pack :) | ||
| nixternal | heh | 05:35 |
| minghua | oh congratulations persia | 05:35 |
| nixternal | something along the lines of it being impossible to install | 05:35 |
| persia | minghua: Thanks. | 05:35 |
| crimsun | persia: good. Here's ALSA. Catch. | 05:36 |
| === persia watches as ALSA bounces off the rear wall and flies back towards sender :) | ||
| crimsun | officially I am no longer an MOTU. Hooray! | 05:36 |
| persia | crimsun: Congratulations ! | 05:37 |
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| mischko | Wondering if there's a Motu here who would package the new pgadminIII? The one in feisty is very old. | 05:38 |
| mischko | #bug 90120 | 05:39 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 90120 in pgadmin3 "New version of pgadmin3 available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90120 | 05:39 |
| persia | Grumble. Spanish looks like portuguese until you look at the words carefully. | 05:39 |
| crimsun | mischko: feel free to work on the source package yourself. | 05:39 |
| crimsun | there are several MOTU here who are knowledgeable and can guide you. | 05:40 |
| mischko | crimsun, I'd be happy to give it a try. I suppose I need to download the source from pgadmin.org and get it to compile? | 05:40 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: officially you're still a core dev for many more months | 05:40 |
| crimsun | ajmitch: shhh. | 05:41 |
| crimsun | mischko: it would be wise to first check the Debian BTS entries for said source package. Then I recommend investigating uscan/uupdate. | 05:41 |
| mischko | crimsun, What's the BTS? | 05:42 |
| crimsun | http://bugs.debian.org/pgadmin3 | 05:42 |
| mischko | There are debian packages for Sarge, Etch, Sid. | 05:42 |
| crimsun | mischko: right. It would be wise to merge 1.4.3-2.1's changes into whichever newer upstream. | 05:44 |
| mischko | crimsun, can you outline this process? I've never made a package before. | 05:44 |
| mischko | I don't see anything much in BTS. | 05:45 |
| crimsun | mischko: you won't be making one from scratch; you'll be updating the existing Ubuntu one and merging in Sid's latest changes. | 05:45 |
| crimsun | mischko: the purpose of reading the BTS entries first is to gain familiarity for which bugs might be closed in the newer upstream version. | 05:46 |
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| mischko | Where's a good writeup on the packaging scene? Something that explains terms like "upstream", etc. | 05:54 |
| crimsun | there's a packaging guide on help.ubuntu.com | 05:55 |
| crimsun | also in System> Help and Support if you're using Ubuntu | 05:55 |
| mischko | I've looked through both those sources and don't see anything besides how to install existing packages. | 05:58 |
| RAOF | !packagingguide | mischko | 05:59 |
| ubotu | mischko: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports | 05:59 |
| mischko | Cool. I'm off for some "light reading". Thanks! | 05:59 |
| Simon80 | hrm, anyone know about the status of gparted? | 05:59 |
| ajmitch | someone please suggest a time for the next MOTU meeting on the list | 06:00 |
| Simon80 | I want the newer version to get into gutsy, and then feisty, it's in unstable... but being in ubuntu's main, I can't bug MOTU about it :) | 06:00 |
| ajmitch | (any time I suggest won't suit most people) | 06:00 |
| crimsun | mischko: the packaging guide is under the 6.10 tab. | 06:01 |
| crimsun | (it's not present under 7.04) | 06:01 |
| mischko | crimsun, thanks for the clarification. | 06:01 |
| Simon80 | that sucks, I couldn't find it that way either.. | 06:01 |
| minghua | packaging guide need more love, if I remember Laserjock correctly | 06:03 |
| Simon80 | heh, yeah | 06:03 |
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| Simon80 | thing is, the Debian New Maintainer's guide isn't bad | 06:03 |
| Simon80 | and it wouldn't be a bad idea to require that anyway, so that people will choose to contribute to upstream instead of just Ubuntu | 06:03 |
| RAOF | Simon80: Since it's in unstable, it should be getting sync/merged for gutsy. I don't know whether backports cover main packages though. | 06:04 |
| Simon80 | ah | 06:04 |
| Simon80 | or, right, they probably don't, bah | 06:04 |
| Simon80 | whatever, I can backport it myself | 06:04 |
| Simon80 | I guess that means I don't care either way, I'll just backport it from debian unstable | 06:05 |
| Simon80 | they finally implemented powerful moving capabilities | 06:05 |
| Simon80 | which I always missed back in the day when I was still repartitioning my drive often.. I've never used LVM, lol | 06:06 |
| RAOF | Actually, looks like you backports *will* do main packages. | 06:06 |
| Simon80 | you wha? | 06:06 |
| RAOF | Once it's hit gutsy, try !backports | 06:06 |
| Simon80 | !backports :) | 06:06 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about backports :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 06:06 |
| Simon80 | !backports | 06:06 |
| ubotu | If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging | 06:06 |
| Simon80 | nice | 06:07 |
| Simon80 | no wonder there has been so much more backport traffic | 06:07 |
| RAOF | Why isn't irssi emacs? | 06:07 |
| Simon80 | I mean, I've seen those automated backport upload changelog entries... I just don't know how automated they are | 06:08 |
| Simon80 | anyway, I needed a /boot partition before my root one, and the new gparted can do that, the old one can't | 06:08 |
| ajmitch | RAOF: why would it be? | 06:08 |
| Simon80 | I discovered it by chance, since I still have gentoo on my box | 06:08 |
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| RAOF | ajmitch: Because everything should be emacs :P | 06:09 |
| RAOF | Or rather, ctrl-a ctrl-k should kill the line. | 06:09 |
| Simon80 | lol | 06:09 |
| ajmitch | RAOF: it does | 06:10 |
| Simon80 | I like it that readline has slowly introduced me to emacs keybindings for the past year and a half without my knowledge | 06:10 |
| === RAOF is stupid, and running in screen :( | ||
| Simon80 | lp; | 06:10 |
| Simon80 | lol* | 06:10 |
| ajmitch | RAOF: ctrl-a a ctrl-k | 06:10 |
| Simon80 | that's what bugs me about screen | 06:10 |
| RAOF | Yeah, I know. Now that I've actually remembered the screen bit :) | 06:11 |
| Simon80 | mouse wheel support, actually, bugs me in screen | 06:11 |
| RAOF | That'd be a bit cool. Surely it's technically possible | 06:11 |
| Simon80 | yes | 06:11 |
| Simon80 | but the fact that it isn't there now is a dealbreaker for me, with vim and such | 06:11 |
| Simon80 | I could live without it, but it's annoying | 06:11 |
| Simon80 | like I'm using windows again | 06:12 |
| Simon80 | in windows, wheel scrolling is so horrendously busted | 06:12 |
| === RAOF *always* tries to wheel over an unfocused window. | ||
| Simon80 | and touchpad drivers do all sorts of disgusting hacks with the cursor to implement fake scrolling | 06:12 |
| Simon80 | which don't work on some windows | 06:13 |
| Simon80 | ironic that there would be better touchpad support on the free OS | 06:13 |
| Simon80 | horizontal scrolling and such | 06:13 |
| Simon80 | speaking of which, I don't think that works by default yet, that's a problem sort of | 06:14 |
| Simon80 | vertical and horizontal touchpad soft scrolling | 06:14 |
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| TheMuso_ | Gotta love people turning off the power before you can shut down. | 06:51 |
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| ajmitch | hello white | 06:56 |
| white | hi :) | 06:56 |
| white | ajmitch: i saw the mail send to you, sorry didn't know that you were a target :( | 06:57 |
| jmg | target? | 06:57 |
| ajmitch | hm? | 07:02 |
| white | ajmitch: about your pacakges | 07:03 |
| white | anyway how is it going here? | 07:03 |
| white | did i miss anything? :) | 07:03 |
| ajmitch | ok | 07:03 |
| ajmitch | nope | 07:03 |
| white | i am playing UTOM now :) | 07:03 |
| ajmitch | nothing happens here | 07:03 |
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| jussi01 | good morning peoples!! | 07:05 |
| RAOF | Afternoon jussi01 | 07:06 |
| jussi01 | my package builds perfectly, however upon installing i get nasty things like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21389/ | 07:06 |
| jussi01 | can someone help? | 07:06 |
| jussi01 | hello RAOF | 07:06 |
| RAOF | jussi01: Linky to your revu page? Last I looked you didn't have all the requisite python-foo in there :) | 07:07 |
| ajmitch | missing stuff in debian/control | 07:07 |
| jussi01 | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5177 | 07:07 |
| jussi01 | ajmitch: wich stuff?? | 07:07 |
| RAOF | jussi01: You might want to look at (my) specto package | 07:08 |
| === jussi01 gets... | ||
| RAOF | That's got all the python-foo in debain/control - pycentral wants some fields. Oh, and you *still* don't need both python2.5-dev & python-all-dev :) | 07:09 |
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| jussi01 | ok, so what exactly does pycentral want?? | 07:10 |
| RAOF | XS-Python-Version, under your source package in control, and XB-Python-Version: ${python:Versions} under each binary package, I think. | 07:12 |
| RAOF | At least, that's what I've got in specto. and I read the debian-python-policy while doing that package: ) | 07:12 |
| jussi01 | ahhh, I see them in specto, ok then...:D | 07:12 |
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| highvoltage | 0/win 11 | 07:31 |
| ajmitch | you lose | 07:34 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:51 |
| TheMuso | Morning dholbach. | 07:54 |
| dholbach | hey TheMuso | 07:54 |
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